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jchen@wind.bellcore.com (Jason Chen) writes:
-> I saw an interesting product in NY Auto Show, and would like to hear
-> your comments.
->
-> MILITECH(tm) is yet another oil additive. But the demonstration of
-> this product really impressive, if it didn't cheat.
Well, I heard that Militech stuff works pretty good too.. One of my
friends who races in SCCA sanctioned events and all that stuff got the
Militech stuff early as a trial thing, and he put it in his CRX.. He
says it worked great, but I didn't ask him for any details.
-Erich
erich.lim@yob.sccsi.com
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| 7rec.autos |
I am looking for comments from people who have used/heard about PhotoShop
for Windows. Is it good? How does it compare to the Mac version? Is there
a lot of bugs (I heard the Windows version needs "fine-tuning)?
Any comments would be greatly appreciated..
Thank you.
Andre Boisvert
beaver@rot.qc.ca
| 1comp.graphics |
>ALL icons in Program Manager are aliases. Is that explicit
>enough??
Apparently not. Many people complain about the confusion that
results from the filemanager/progman split. It's just a basic
flaw.
Besides, what about the control panel icons? Where are all those
little files?
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Hooray ! I always suspected that I was human too :-) It is the desire to be like
Christ that often causes christians to be very critical of themselves and other
christians. We are supposed to grow, mature, endeavour to be Christ-like but we
are far far far from perfect. Build up the body of Christ, don't tear it down,
and that includes yourself. Jesus loves me just the way I am today, tomorrow and
always (thank God ! :-).
-Sheila Patterson
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1993Apr14.193739.13359@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>In article <1993Apr13.152706.27518@bnr.ca> Dave Dal Farra <gpz750@bnr.ca> writes:
>|My crafty girfriend makes campfire/bbq starters a la McGiver:
>Well, heck, if you're going to make them yourself, you can buy
>candle-wax by the pound--much cheper than the candles themselves.
Hell, just save your candle stubs and bring them. Light them up, and
dribble the wax all over the kindling wood and light _that_. Although
I like the belly-button lint / eggshell case idea the best, if you're
feeling particularly industrious some eventful evening. Or you can
do what I did one soggy summer: open the fuel line, drain some onto a
piece of rough or rotten wood, stick that into the middle of the soon-to-
be inferno and CAREFULLY strike a match... As Kurt Vonnegut titled one
of the latter chapters in Cat's Cradle, "Ah-Whoom!"
Works like a charm every time :-)
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wquinnan@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Malcusco) writes:
> My problem with Science is that often it allows us to
>assume we know what is best for ourselves. God endowed us
>with the ability to produce life through sexual relations,
>for example, but He did not make that availible to everyone.
>Does that mean that if Science can over-ride God's decision
>through alterations, that God wills for us to have the power
>to decide who should and should not be able to have
>children? Should men be allowed to have babies, if that
>is made possible.
In a word, yes. I don't believe that physical knowledge has a great deal of
impact on the power of God. In the past, God gave us the ability to create
life through sexual relations. Now, he is giving us the ability to create life
through in vitro fertilization. The difference between the two is merely
cosmetic, and even if we gain the ability to create universes we won't begin to
approach the glory of God.
The power we are being given is a test, and I am sure that in many cases we
will use our new abilities unwisely. But, people have been using sexuality
unwisely for millenia and I haven't heard an outcry to abolish it yet!
No matter how far we extend our dominion over the physical world, we aren't
impinging on God's power. It's only when we attempt to gain control of the
spiritual world, those things that can't be approached through science and
logic, that we begin to interfere with God.
Alan Terlep "...and the scorpion says, 'it's
Oakland University, Rochester, MI in my nature.'"
atterlep@vela.acs.oakland.edu
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <randolin.3.735424986@polisci.umn.edu>, randolin@polisci.umn.edu (Robert Andolina) writes:
|> The thing that confuses me most about ESPN is that they decided to show the
|> Penguins and Devils again on Thursday night. Being that both of the first
|> two games were dominated by Pitt., you would think that they would show a
|> different game. This is in addition to the fact that they should show other
|> games just for the sake of fair exposure.
ESPN must have some very poor marketing people. They are only concerned with
featuring players (i.e. Mario) than featuring good competitive hockey.
|> Also, some of you should know that (as far as I can tell) ESPN is not going
|> to show Campbell conference games regularly in the first two rounds. I
|> believe that they are only going to show Campbell games in the first two
|> rounds as those series wear on (games 6 & 7, or perhaps games 5, 6, 7).
I've heard that this is because most of their market is East Coast and hence
would prefer the Wales stuff. Also, don't expect Canadian teams on ESPN.
In summary, if you want to see a network that provides good hockey coverage,
watch CBC from Canada. They may be biased toward Canadian teams, but they
don't treat the viewers like idiots, they provide nice updates, and Don Cherry
will always provide a few laughs.
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Can someone recommend how to ship a motorcycle from San Francisco
to Seattle? And how much might it cost?
I remember a thread on shipping. If someone saved the instructions
on bike prep, please post 'em again, or email.
Thanks,
Manish
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Yesterday, I watched an outstanding documentary on PBS prepared for Frontline
by the documentary consortia. It is called "Memory of the camps" and shows some
"un-censored" pictures taken immediately after the liberation of Bergen-Belsen
and other death camps.
I recommend it to everybody. Check with your PBS station for re-broadcast.
IT IS A MUST SEE documentary.
In the Seatle, Vancouver area KSTS-9 will re-broadcast the documentary
on Monday 01:30 am.
You can also order a copy from PBS Video 1-800-3287271. The cost is $59.95.
Danny
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
GRUBB (bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu) wrote:
: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
: >What does a 200-400 meg 5 megs/sec SCSI drive cost?
: Since the Quadra is the only Mac able to deal with 5MB/s and Hard drives START
: at 160MB I have NO idea.
: For the Mac I have the following {These are ALL external}
: 20MB $299 {$15/MB}
: 52MB $379 {$7.3/MB}
: 80MB $449 {$5.63/MB}
: 120MB $569-$639 {$4.75-$5.33/MB
: 210MB $979-$1029{$4.67-$4.90/MB}
: 320MB $1499-$1549 {$4.68-$4.84/MB}
: 510MB $1999-$2119 ($3.92-$4.31/MB}
: etc
I thought you might want the latest prices:
As of MacWeek 4/12/93:
Meg: Int Ext
20M - couldn't find one available.
42M - $159 $219
85M - $199 $269
127 - $279 $349
170 - $299 $359 All above are quantum, low profile (1") 3.5" drives
240 - $369 $449
525 - $899 $979
1225- $1499 $1569 - the last three are quantum 1/2 height 3.5" drives.
[ bunch o stuff deleted ]
: SCSI came FROM the high end computer world with multitasking OS were the
: standard for the most part.
Hear, hear.
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| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Thomas Parsli <thomasp@ifi.uio.no> writes:
>I don't remember the figures EXACTLY, but there were about 3500 deaths in Texas
>in 1991 that was caused by guns.....
>This is more than those beeing killed in car-ACCIDENTS!
>(Yes, there could be that low sentences or high poverty could influence the
>figures but they're still *pretty* high right??)
>I also believe Texas has some of the most liberal 'gun-laws' in USA......
In Texas, you cannot carry a handgun. Period. Either concealed or open.
And your numbers are misleading; they include suicides and accidents. The
real number from the Department of Public Safety:
Murders, Non-neg hom Car fatalities
1991 2651 3079
1992 2240 3057
Texas only has "liberal" gun laws as far as purchasing a firearm; aside
from that, it's probably more restrictive than most states as far as carry
goes.
>One state (don't remember which, Texas??) tried to impose a rule that you could
>only buy ONE gun each MONTH. Think you all know what happened.....
The state was Virginia, and the law passed.
>I respect the right to defend yourself, but that right should not inflict on
>other people.
That right only inflicts on those who threaten my rights to life,
liberty, the pursuit of happiness, etc., in the first place. I am not
a criminal, and I don't indiscriminately fire my weapons at random.
So please explain how I am "inflicting" anything on other people.
> This is not a .signature.
> It's merely a computergenerated text to waste bandwith
> and to bring down the evil Internet.
> Thomas Parsli
> thomasp@ifi.uio.no
aaron
arc@cco.caltech.edu
| 16talk.politics.guns |
I have following softwares for sale:
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2. Turbo Pascal Express
with 250 ready-to-run assembly language routines that make Turbo Pascal
faster, more powerful, and easier to use.
Book and 2 5.25" disks
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3. Dr. Halo III
much more than an icon driven paint program - it's a complete page
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3 5.25" disks and manual
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All items above are for IBM/compatible systems.
| 6misc.forsale |
<stuff deleted>
> Also, I am not interested in Quicktime. I would merely like to
> use my Mac as a television from time to time. I have a nice
> Sony 1430 monitor, and I would like to use it as a second TV
> when my wife is watching sitcoms on our regular TV.
>
<other stuff deleted>
Wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy a little fourteen inch colour tv? Just
curious...
>
> George Micahels
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Montreal, Que, Canada
scott@silverbullet.cam.org
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <C5HEDH.C7A@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM>, mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
>In <1qf5kb$8pq@transfer.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
>
>|But you ARE describing US gun law, in a vast number of places!
>
>|The problem is that the system falls apart when the government decides
>|not to PROSECUTE under those laws. That is, the criminal is told:
>
>|"Plead guilty to aggravated assault and save us the effort of a full
>|trial, and we'll drop the gun charges."
>
>|So the laws exist, and the penalties are as you say, but nobody is ever
>|prosecuted under these laws. They are "traded away" for easy pleas.
>
>Having such gun laws on the books is still better than nothing.
>What would the DA have traded away in order to get the guilty plea if the
>gun law had not been in effect.
If you can't convict 'em, don't bust 'em! Plea bargins are for lazy DAs, weak
cases and questionable cops.IMnotsoHO.
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <Apr.9.08.39.25.1993.15639@romulus.rutgers.edu> kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) writes:
>civilized society. The _ONLY_ way a homosexual can maintain even a
>modicum of respectability is by remaining in the closet.
>--
> The views expressed herein are | Theodore A. Kaldis
> my own only. Do you seriously | kaldis@remus.rutgers.edu
> believe that a major university | {...}!rutgers!remus.rutgers.edu!kaldis
> as this would hold such views??? |
Once again, it appears that the one-eyed man has appeared in the land of the sighted
and for some strange resaon has appointed himself the ruler and supreme power.
Joe Cipale
| 18talk.politics.misc |
vlasis@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (vlasis theodore) writes:
>Have you Detroit beings compared the ultra-long-throw stick shifts of
>the 5.0 with the 93 MR2 turbo or 93 RX7 (I ll buy it in 6 mos) ?
>Or the Torsen differential of the RX7 compared to the Differential of
>the 5.0 that sounds in every hairpin turn ?
Or the price tag of the RX7 vs. a Mustang? Part of the definition of
a Mustang is that it should be affordable by the masses. Of course
Ford knows youre argument, THEY OWN A BIG PIECE OF MAZDA! Take a good
look at a Mach III, now an RX7, hhhmmmmm...
>And bythe way 5.0 and Camaro both have drums on the rear breaks ...
>Hello , this is the 90 's ?
That is a tragedy, but I don't think new Camaros or the new Mustangs will.
-Steve
7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7
Alan Kulwicki 1992 Winston Cup Champion
1954 - 1993
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| 7rec.autos |
In article <1r46o9INN14j@mojo.eng.umd.edu> sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu writes:
>In article <C5tEIK.7z9@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>
>>Apollo was done the hard way, in a big hurry, from a very limited
>>technology base... and on government contracts. Just doing it privately,
>>rather than as a government project, cuts costs by a factor of several.
>
>So how much would it cost as a private venture, assuming you could talk the
>U.S. government into leasing you a couple of pads in Florida?
>
Why use a ground launch pad. It is entirely posible to launch from altitude.
This was what the Shuttle was originally intended to do! It might be seriously
cheaper.
Also, what about bio-engineered CO2 absorbing plants instead of many LOX bottles?
Stick 'em in a lunar cave and put an airlock on the door.
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"And they shall not find those things, with a sort of rafia like base,
that their fathers put there just the night before. At about 8 O'clock!"
| 14sci.space |
Will there be any support for round or circular widgets in Motif's next
release?. I'd love to have a circular knob widget which could be used
instead of a slider.
Cheers!
DM
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <saross01.734885336@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>, saross01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Stacey A. Ross) writes:
|> In <C5I2s2.3Bt@odin.corp.sgi.com> rickc@wrigley.corp.sgi.com (Richard Casares) writes:
|> >You'll have a hard time selling any sport to a community that
|> >can't play it on account of availability or financial reasons.
|> >Hockey is pretty much a sport for the white and well off.
What is this crap? I'm only interested in intelligent discussion. If you
can't answer my question, just say so. Can anyone else answer the ques.?
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <211353@mavenry.altcit.eskimo.com>,
maven@mavenry.altcit.eskimo.com (Norman Hamer) writes:
|>
|> Grf. Dropped my Shoei RF-200 off the seat of my bike while trying to
|> rock
|> it onto it's centerstand, chipped the heck out of the paint on it...
|>
|> So I cheerfully spent $.59 on a bottle of testor's model paint and
|> repainted the scratches and chips for 20 minutes.
|>
|> The question for the day is re: passenger helmets, if you don't know
|> for
|> certain who's gonna ride with you (like say you meet them at a ....
|> church
|> meeting, yeah, that's the ticket)... What are some guidelines? Should
|> I just
|> pick up another shoei in my size to have a backup helmet (XL), or
|> should I
|> maybe get an inexpensive one of a smaller size to accomodate my
|> likely
|> passenger?
My rule of thumb is "Don't give rides to people that wear
a bigger helmet than you", unless your taste runs that way,
or they are family.friends.
Gee, reminds me of a *dancer* in Hull, just over the river
from Ottowa, that I saw a few years ago, for her I would a
bought a bigger helmet (or even her own bike) or anything
else she wanted ;->
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in the same store.
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <gordons.737605006@mon.sps.mot.com> gordons@mon.sps.mot.com (Gordon Sasamori) writes:
<In <604@ftms.UUCP> brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<
<>OW 3.0 is the same. But, the definition of broken is relative. Pageview
<>requires DSC compliant PostScript files, in order to stop at page breaks.
<>I don't consider that broken. I say that any program that puts out a
<>PostScript file that isn't DSC compliant is broken.
<
<Well that may be true. However, the man page for pageview for OW 2.0
<does not mention about DSC compliance. In any event, the point here
<is that if you try to display some PS files using pageview you will
<find out that it's not a practical tool.
It is true that the man page for pageview does not say that the files need
to be DSC compliant. That is the fault of the left hand not knowing what the
right hand is doing at Sun. I was informed by a Sun employee that the pageview
program does require DSC compliant PostScript. There was the possibility that
it was going to be changed so that if the file wasn't DSC compliant that it
would stop at each showpage. I believe that this method would preclude being
able to go backwards and forwards through the file, i.e., you could only go
forward to the next showpage. This isn't in OW3.0 pageview, but maybe it is
in the Solaris 2.x version of OW (OW 3.1?).
In any event, I find pageview extremely useful. Since all of the PostScript
that I produce IS DSC compliant, I don't have any problems.
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| 5comp.windows.x |
Whenever I exit Windows, I can't use control-alt DEL to reboot my
computer, because the system hangs when I do this. I can still reboot
using the reset key, but I would like to know why this happens..
Eric
ebosco@us.oracle.com
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
1B Career: DON MATTINGLY!!!!!!!!
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1993Apr23.102811.623@sei.cmu.edu> caj@sei.cmu.edu (Carol
Jarosz) writes:
>
> While watching the Penguins/Devils game last night, I saw the "slash"
that
> Barrasso took on the neck. This brought to mind the goaltender who had
his
> jugular vein cut by a skate. I think he was a Sabre, but I'm not
positive.
> Does anyone remember/know his name?
Clint Malarchuk
What has happened to him since?
Assigned to San Diego Gulls at the being of the season I believe
What
> about the player whose skate cut the goalie? Name? Info?
It was Uwe Krupp and a Blues player, though Uwe's skate I beleive cut
Clint. He has since be traded to the Isles in the LaFontaine deal.
Has this ever
> happened before in a hockey game?
This is the only time I know of.
>
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Tom Gwitt gwittt@alleg.edu GO SABRES!!!
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1qplh7$e2g@agate.berkeley.edu>, jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu
(Joseph Hernandez) wrote:
> If people on USENET really don't want to see the postings I do to
> rec.sport.baseball on a daily basis, please just let me know. If the response
> is overwhelming against the posts, I won't do it anymore.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Joseph Hernandez
Mr. Hernandez Ñ-
I apologize for the misunderstanding. I explained that I know that it
is essential for some fans to get scores here, for they cannot get them
elsewhere. I have no problem with what you do, posting scores AFTER the
games have been completed. However, like I said earlier, I don't think it
is a necessity to post scores during the middle of games, like some others
have come to practice.
- Sean
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In <jnmoyne-190493111630@moustic.lbl.gov> jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne) writes:
> Ok, hold on a second and clarify something for me:
> What does "DWI" stand for ? I thought it was "DUI" for Driving Under
>Influence, so here what does W stand for ?
> JNM
Here in Iowa it is/has been OWI (operating under the influence) and OMVI
(operating motor vehicle under the influence). They (gov't) changed it to
OMVI so that people in motor boats could also be charged with drunk driving.
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| 8rec.motorcycles |
This was in Wed. WSJ.
[start]
The white house, seeking to mount public pressure on GOP senators, bombarded
news outlets in some senator's home states with news releases warning that
certain projects may not be funded if the $16billion stimulus bill isn't
passed.
None of the projects mentioned are actually in the bill, rather they are
part of a wish list that may be funded from the $2.56 billion in
Community Development Block Grants.
...
[end]
I could have sworn I heard a bunch of Clintonites going on and on, raving
about how dishonest it was that the Rebublicans were taking items from this
wish list in order to ridicule this bill. Now that Clinton is using that
same list in order to garner support for the bill, are you guys going to
do the honarable thing and say that Clinton is being dishonest.
--
Mob rule isn't any prettier merely because the mob calls itself a government
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Wilson's theory of relativity: If you go back far enough, we're all related.
Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Imake support for xmosaic
=========================
Although xmosaic is a great program in general, it unfortunately comes
without Imake support. So I created one. Until Marc Andreessen finds the
time to incorporate it in an official xmosaic release, you can easily do it
yourself. Use anonymous FTP to get
ftp.germany.eu.net:/pub/X11/misc/xmosaic.Imake.tar.z
The file's size is 3200 Byte. You will need gzip to unpack it. Have fun!
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| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1993Apr15.192231.27574@abo.fi>, MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
|> In <PKORTELA.93Apr15164732@lk-hp-17.hut.fi> pkortela@snakemail.hut.fi writes:
|>
|> >
|> > DEG has many german-born forwards in the team. In fact the majority of players
|> > are german-born. 1992-93 DEG had 11150 average in 11800 spectator arena.
|>
|> Interesting! One of our German friends here (Robert?) told me their forwards
|> were all Canadian-Germans. Perhaps somebody can sort this out for us?
As far as I know Dusseldorf has only one Canadian-German forward (i.e. a player
who was born in Canada but now has a German passport).
Benoit Doucet became german by marriing a german and he is going to play
for Germany in the WC.
The other Canada-born forwards are:
Peter-John Lee (has British passport)
Chris Valentine
Dale Dercatch
Steve Gootas
Earl Spry (?)
At the moment there are only three German-born forwards coming into my mind:
Bernd Trunschka, Andreas Brockmann, Ernst Koepf
Volker
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <C5r03J.Gu3@news2.cis.umn.edu>, ianhogg@milli.cs.umn.edu (Ian J. Hogg) writes:
>In article <1993Apr19.200740.17615@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> nchan@nova.ctr.columbia.edu (Nui Chan) writes:
>>has anybody implements an RPC server in the HP Xwindows? In SUN Xview, there
>>is a notify_enable_rpc_svc() call that automatically executes the rpc processes
>>when it detects an incoming request. I wonder if there is a similar function in
>>HP X/motif that perform the same function.
>
>I've been using the xrpc package for about a year now. I believe I got it from
>export.
Glad to hear that it's working for you!
I couldn't find it on "export". However, Simon Leinen
<simon@liasun6.epfl.ch> has added an Imakefile and an Athena
version, and made it available for FTP in the file
liasun3.epfl.ch:/pub/X/contrib/xrpc.tar.z. (Note the ".z"
suffix; you'll need GNU gzip -- also on liasun3 in /pub/gnu --
to uncompress it.)
If this doesn't work, send me a note and I'd be happy to mail you
a copy; but you probably won't get it until the start of May --
I'm on holidays as of tomorrow! :-)
--
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MPR Teltech Ltd. 8999 Nelson Way Burnaby, BC, CANADA V5A 4B5
P.S. Are there any Dublin X folks that want to go for a pint of
Guinness at, say, Mulligan's...?
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <4fplPDH0BwwbEDweNJ@transarc.com> Lyle_Seaman@transarc.com writes:
<jhan@debra.dgbt.doc.ca (Jerry Han) writes:
<> Somebody asked me what was wrong about overreacting in cases such as this.
<
<That was probably me.
<I meant only that nobody has overreacted yet. It seemed to me that
<Jerry was suggesting that people are currently overreacting, and I
<vehemently disagree. I see a lot of talk, but not much action.
<I see now that I misunderstood Jerry's position.
<
<> The reason is very simple: How many people do you want to die in a riot?
<> In a new Civil War?
<>
<> Everybody is jumping up and down and screaming about it, and I'm worried
<> that people are going to reach for their hammers and rifles before their pens
<> and paper.
<
<Not this bunch. They'll just bitch on the Net for a while, and
<then go back to lurking.
<
<> Can people work within the system before trying to break it? Examine your
<> history books, and find out how many armed revolutions led to Democratic
<> (or Democratic style) governments. I think you'll only find one in over
<> five thousand years of written history.
<
<Actually, it's not quite that bad, but it's close.
I think everyone would just as soon work within the system. The presence
of the POSSIBILITY of using the bullet box instead of the ballot box
is supposed to be a deterrent - by keeping the price of massive abuse
unacceptable. However, governments being what they are, sure would
like to REMOVE that deterrence, which will make the need for armed
citizens all the more great (you don't need 'em till you don't have 'em).
Then I think we can be more accurately called 'subjects' instead of
'citizens'. The idea of the people being sovereign over the government
is sure not in vogue in the Beltway these days, that is for sure...
The Administration is saying "We know best. We will tell you what
you need, or don't need..." "After, that old-fashioned anachronism
called the Bill of Rights is not needed in these 'enlightened times'...
<Look, we (collectively) have the power to throw the bums out, but we
<don't use it. We clearly don't need to go burning things down, but we
Not if the government has its way: There are EIGHT bills before Congress
that will either ban, tax exhorbitantly, or register all useful weapons
in the hands of the unconnected US subject. Can you say $200.00 just
for a box of cartridges for practice? One of the current Administrations
top priority items is to disarm all who are not well-connected, or that
work for the government.
<clearly do need to throw at least some of the bums out.
<Unfortunately, the bums have learned to target only small groups of
<people at a single time, so the masses won't react and throw them out.
<Eventually, the masses will react, unless the bums cease their
<relentless encroachment on liberty and despoilment of the economy.
<The sooner it happens, the less the damages will be. I don't want to
<live in a war zone, either -- I want to see the bums thrown out before
<they do some *real* damage.
Another tactic is to toss out so many outrages at once that nobody can
give justice to them all. Like is being done RIGHT NOW.
<Lyle Transarc 707 Grant Street
<412 338 4474 The Gulf Tower Pittsburgh 15219
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| 11sci.crypt |
thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
>In article <1993Mar29.044248.16010@sarah.albany.edu> js8484@albnyvms.bitnet writes:
>>Personally, I think that Alomar is all hype. He is producing incredibly now,
>>but in the long run, he will never put up the numbers that Sandberg has. For
>>THIS moment, Alomar may be the best, but overall Sandberg wins out by a long
>>shot.
>When Sandberg was Alomar's age, he was putting up .261 seasons with no power.
>Alomar's 1992 OBA is 25 points higher than Sandberg's career high. Alomar's
>career high in doubles and triples is higher than Sandberg's. Sandberg is
>still better than Alomar, but only because Alomar hasn't reached his full
>potential yet. Alomar's got a 2.5 year-headstart on Sandberg (he has 862
>hits; Sandberg didn't have 862 hits until he was 26), and is likely to
>put up better career numbers than Sandberg in everything except home runs.
>He'll pass Sandberg in stolen bases sometime in 1995.
Sandberg is not particulary known for his stolen bases. What competition did
Alomar have? Sandberg came in a year after Ripken, and the same year as Boggs,
Gwynn, and the other magicians. So less attention was given to Sandberg.
Alomar is the only one in his class to be worth a mediocre. Besides the
numbers don't count. National league pitchers are much better pitchers.
Larry on someone elses account
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| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <C5JBKF.9B8@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
>In article <1993Apr06.185638.12139@metrics.com> tomh@metrics.com (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>
>>Has anyone used a Hercules Graphite adapter? It looks good on paper, and
>>Steve Gibson gave it a very good review in Infoworld. I'd love to get a
>>real-world impression, though -- how is the speed? Drivers? Support?
>
>The PC World reviewers found out that the Herc people had hard-coded
>Winbench text into the driver. Clever, no? In any case, the Winbench
>results are pretty much inflated.
But the impressive performance of the Graphite was
not its Winmark, it was its Wintach result (esp. the paint
performance). Judging from the Wintach tests, I can hardly
imagine that there is a cheat driver for it.
+---------------------------------------------------+
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| Digitech Student |
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| Melbourne, Australia |
+---------------------------------------------------+
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
I have a UREI 527A 27-band (mono) Equilizer for sale. Anyone who knows
this unit knows it's been a recording studio standard for years. It's a
pretty straightforward unit, with balanced ins and outs. Power supply caps
were recently replaced, and I added XLR connectors (which can be easily
removed if you prefer, as I mounted them on a bracket outside the case).
The unit is in good shape, and is sonically very clean.
I'm asking $225 + UPS shipping. They're going for $250 generally. Make me
an offer.
Tod Treganowan
Computing and Information Services
University of Pittsburgh
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| 6misc.forsale |
In article <C5pstr.Lu2@panix.com> dfl@panix.com (Danny O'Bedlam) writes:
> The algorithm is classified because a military contract (or similar
>government equivalent to military) has been let for this "proprietary"
>design that the Feds say that NSA developed. Is there a patent? Is that
>patent publicly available? My betting is that that too is classified.
Unless there has been a _major_ change in the law, there's no such beast
as a "classified patent." Patents exist to encourage communications and
develop the state of the art.
(The 17-year lock is a nuisance, but historically has been pretty trivial.
It's only in an industry which doubles performance every three years (or
18 months, for some hardware) that 17 years is an eternity).
The same thing applies in civilian development: you can't patent something
_and_ declare it a "trade secret." However, you can (and should) mark all
software (including proprietary code) "unpublished copyright" so that it
ever does get exposed you still have some legal protection.
(Post-Berne this isn't required, since everything is "born copyrighted."
But it takes a while for people to learn the new rules).
--
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bear@fsl.noaa.gov
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <C6vExt.Lxn@bony1.bony.com>, jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) writes:
|> In article <1993May7.175730.12246@ncsu.edu> hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu (Brad Hernlem) writes:
|> >In article <39298@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) writes:
|> >|> In article <C6MM8A.5KB@bony1.bony.com> jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) writes:
|>
|> >|> >In the NY Times, on Sunday, May 2, in an article on Somalia, a
|> >|> >reporter writes:
|> >|> >
|> >|> > " [...] But last year, Iran quietly took over four islands belonging
|> >|> > to the United Arab Emirates and deported their people, with hardly a
|> >|> > protest from the United States. [...]"
|> >|> >
|> >|> >Does anyone know what this is referring to? I seem to have missed it.
|> >|> >(Spiked, no doubt. :-)
|>
|> >|> There was something in the NYT and other sources about this for a few
|> >|> days. It is an ongoing border disupute, and when the Iranians kicked
|> >|> out the UAE people it was briefly reported (this was many moons ago).
|> >|> I don't recall reading of any public US comment; if it were a strong
|> >|> protest I probably would have seen it.
|>
|> >Those islands would be Abu Musa, and the Greater and Lesser Tunbs, I presume.
|> >I don't know about a fourth. The latter two islands belong to Iran and so
|>
|> According to the NY Times, the 4 islands "belong[] to the United Arab
|> Emirates."
|> Jake Livni
The NY Times is in error. This is not simply my opinion; even the Arab sources
that I use do not make this claim. This, of course, is assuming that the NY
Times was refering to the islands that I named above. Of those islands, only
Abu Musa has been in dispute and Iranian occupation of that island predates
the existence of the UAE.
Brad Hernlem
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <healta.176.735768613@saturn.wwc.edu>, healta@saturn.wwc.edu (Tammy R Healy) writes:
> In article <1993Apr25.020546.22426@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
> >From: kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran)
> >Subject: Re: YOU WILL ALL GO TO HELL!!!
> >Date: Sun, 25 Apr 93 02:05:46 GMT
> >In article <8473@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk> martin@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk (Martin Gorman) writes:
> >>JSN104@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> >>
> >>>YOU BLASHEPHEMERS!!! YOU WILL ALL GO TO HELL FOR NOT BELIEVING IN GOD!!!! BE
> >>>PREPARED FOR YOUR ETERNAL DAMNATION!!!
> >>>
> >>Oh fuck off.
> >
> >Actually, I just think he's confused. *I'm* going to hell because I'm Gay,
> >not becuase I don't believe in God.
> >
> >(I wonder if that means I can't come to Tammy & Deans picnic?)
>
> Of course you can come. I said "ALL a.a posters are invited" and I didn't
> put a "No homosexual" clause. Bring some munchies and join the party!!!
> I can't imagine Dean objecting, either.
Knowing Keith, I expect he'll bring the leather accessories.
Better oil it well. Leather cracks when it dries.
Dean Kaflowitz
| 0alt.atheism |
Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>I'm just wondering where all the Bruins fans are??? I mean they woofed it
>up with about 1,000,000 posts during the regular season saying that their
>fave team was going to kick everyone's @#$ in the playoffs and win the Stanley
>Cup. While I see nothing wrong with a little ranting and raving, I'm just
>curious why all the Boston faithful have stopped posting. I mean I haven't
>even see just one little Boston fan post, 'cept for the Bruins fans that
>aren't cocky. Well, maybe they're all out on the golf course or something,
>but I don't know, I'd sure like to see where all those Bruins fans are at :-)
Still here. Just doing a little sobbing in our beer so we're to busy to
post :-)
Seriously I think I caught a .sig curse from Nelson :-)
First the $%@#$%$ Rangers and $50 now the B's......
Hmmm....How bout dem Whalers? (No offense to steveg or others)
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| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <kingoz.735066879@camelot>
kingoz@camelot.bradley.edu (Orin Roth) writes:
>
> Well, officially it's the Braves. At least up until they started winning
> it was. Are they still, officially?
> If so, why? and how did they receive this label?
>
> Unoffically, but without a doubt, America's Team is the Cubs. Why?
> Orin.
> Bradley U>
>
>
>
>--
>I'm really a jester in disguise!
Sorry, but I saw a survey somewhere that showed that America's favorite
team is the Damn Yankees. So much for the underdogs being loved.
ObBaseball Trivia: Cardinals have taken 3 out of 5 series from the Yanks
but have a losing record against them (Spring training games not counted)
--Shannon
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
I'm looking to find some people interested in getting some cd-rom's. Below
is a list with their prices. If you are interested in any of these, send me
some mail and I can guarantee this price. If you are not local their will be
a shipping cost, and cod cost if you prefer it to be shipped that way.
Marcus
American Business Phonebook DOS $20.00
Animals DOS $30.00
Animals MPC $30.00
Audoban Birds DOS $20.00
Audoban Mammals DOS $20.00
Barney Bear Goes to School DOS $30.00
Bible Library DOS $45.00
Bibles and Religion DOS $15.00
Book of Lists DOS $30.00
Britannicas Family Choice DOS $23.00
Britamrica Select DOS $24.33
Business & Economics DOS $30.00
Business Backgrounds DOS $20.00
Business Master DOS $20.00
Carmen San Diego lWhere is ...) MPC $30.00
CD PLay/Launch DOS $25.00
CD ROM Software Jukebox DOS $20.00
CIA Vorld Taur DOS $35.00
Chess Master 3000 MPC DOS $35.00
CLassic Col lection DOS $60.00
CLipert Goliath DOS $15.00
Colossal Cookbook DOS $15.00
DeLorme's Atlas USA WIN $25.00
Desert Storm MPC $35.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles DOS $15.00
Dictionaries & Language DOS $15.00
Education Master DOS $20.00
ELectronic Home Library DOS $35.00
Family Doctor DOS $30.00
Family Encyclopedia by Comptons DOS $49.00
Family Encyclopedia by Comptons MPC $49.00
Game Master DOS $20.00
Game Pack II DOS $25.00
Golden Immortal DOS $25.00
Great Cities of the World DOS $25.00
Greet Cities of the World MPC $30.00
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Ham Radio DOS $15.00
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Jets & Props DOS $25.00
Jones ... Fast Lane DOS/MPS $25.00
KGB/CIA World Fact Book DOS $25.00
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Library of the Future DOS $90.00
Loom DOS $35.00
MPC Wizard MPC $15.00
MacMillan Kids Dictionary MPC $55.00
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Our Solar System DOS $15.00
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| 6misc.forsale |
MJM>HI, I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me on twwo related
MJM>subjects. I am currently learning about AM/FM receivers and recieving
MJM>circuits. I understand a lot of things ,but a few things I am confused
MJM>abuot. The first is the MIXER, to mix the RF and local oscillator
MJM>frequencies to make the IF. Does anyone have any cicruit diagrams (as
MJM>simple as possible) for this kind of mixer? I have come across a
MJM>MC-SBL mixer chip But I have not been able to find it in any catalogs
MJM>(ACTIVE,etc...)
MJM>Along the same note, are there any SIMPLE fm receiver circuits anyone
MJM>may have stashed away somewhere and they couold let me see?.
MJM>P.S. any REALLY GOOD BOOKS on AM/FM theory ALONG WITH DETAILED
MJM>ELECTRICAL DIAGRAMS would help a lot.
MJM>I have seen a lot of theory books with no circuits and a lot of
MJM>circuit books with no theory, but one without the other does not help.
Digi-key has the NE-622 chip which has a local oscillator and mixer on
one chip.
For a great combination of theory with actual circuits, the best
reference for non-engineers is probably the Radio Amateur's Handbook
from the ARRL. Most library's have it in the reference section.
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| 12sci.electronics |
In article <C5HCBo.Joy@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>The biggest problem with this is that all orbits are not alike. It can
>actually be more expensive to reach a satellite from another orbit than
>from the ground.
But with cheaper fuel from space based sources it will be cheaper to
reach more orbits than from the ground.
Also remember, that the presence of a repair/supply facility adds value
to the space around it. If you can put your satellite in an orbit where it
can be reached by a ready source of supply you can make it cheaper and gain
benefit from economies of scale.
Allen
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| W. Churchill: "Madam, if you were my wife, I would drink it." |
+----------------------58 DAYS TO FIRST FLIGHT OF DCX-----------------------+
| 14sci.space |
/(hudson)
/Yes you do. Who is to say that it is immoral for onesself to experience
/pain or to be hurt in some other way. Maybe unpleasant, but that doesn't
/say anything about morality.
It violates free will, Hudson.
(me)
>You can derive the immorality of hurting someone else entirely from selfish
>motives. I can say, for example, that it is wrong to hurt other people
>because that makes them less productive members of society.
/(hudson)
/Why is making someone a less productive member of society immoral?
Hudson, you are screwing up again. Morality does not (I say again, DOES
NOT) define only "right and wrong". It also defines "acceptable social
behavior", without any overtones of good and evil. Picking up your trash
is not really a right/wrong moral issue in the eternal sense of Good
and Evil. Yet it is moral in the sense that it is acceptable social
behavior".
Your definition of the word "morality" is what is causing you to trip over
yourself here.
/(me)
/And since
/>I, selfish being that I am, want to maximize my gains from society, I will
/>not do anything to another member of society if that action might cut down
/>on how much benefit I can derive from society.
/(hudson)
/Why is your benefit somehow related to morality.
Again, your definition is causing you to shoot yourself in the foot.
/(hudson)
/What about if someone feels that their own personal benefit is enhanced
/more than it would be damaged by depleting the overall resources of society?
/Maybe something might hurt society, but it would help him immensly?
That is irrational thinking.
There may also be people out there who think that death by atomic
destruction is a sublime and wonderful thing. I am not going to let them
execute that idea just because they want to do it.
Simply because I let people make up their minds about what morals they
have doesn't prevent me from spotting and stopping a madman when I see
one, Hudson. And even then, I will only stop him when he interferes
with me and my life. That is the difference between me and you: you
want to interfere in people's lives even when they aren't affecting
you.
/(hudson)
/The central character in Dostoevsky's novel, Crime and Punishment,
/(R something or other) reasoned that if killed this old Jewish woman and
/stole her money to educate and establish himself financially, he could
/make a great contribution to society. He reasoned that she was not of
/much profit to society. She just collected rents, and hoarded money.
One of the central points of any (that's ANY) moral system is that is
has to be internally consistent.
By killing her, the character had to accept the premise that the ends
justify the means. If he accepted that premise, then (in order to be
consistent), he must accept the idea that some day another person may
apply the same standard to HIS life. Now, if he is unwilling to accept
this premise (which he will not be willing to accept), then he has
behaved inconsistently with his own moral standard.
/(me)
/[football example deleted]
/(hudson)
/Now suppose a freshman on the bench will only get to play if one of the
/players in the field/on the court is injured (or killed.) This freshman
/wants to play in the big game so a talent scout can see him. If he hurts
/a player on the team, it might slightly lessen the chances of the team to
/win, but he might gain great personal benefit. So, operating on purely
/selfish (immorally selfish) motives, he arranges for a sniper to shoot a
/team player in the leg. He gets to play in front of the talent scout.
/Did that freshman behave morally?
/Selfish intentions may sometimes generate (apparently) moral actions, but
/not always.
Two problems right off the bat:
1. The problem with your analogy is that it doesn't address the goal
that I started with: winning the game. Playing in front of the talent
scout != winning the game. Try creating the same analogy and keep the
ultimate goal the same, will you?
2. The internal consistency question is also not addressed: if the freshman
wants to do this to other people, then he has to accept the fact that
it may happen to him one day. If he is unwilling, then he has violated
his own moral standard.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <C5vxH8.Auv@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> kstell@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (kevin.l.stell) writes:
[stuff chopped]
>Here is the part that concerned me. The "HG" and those shop personel that were
>not busy with customers went back out, where said "HG" members fired up their
>rides and did the obligatory reving up of those 600 beasts. At this point,
>one decided to see how much rubber a Katana 600 could deposit in the drive.
>
>SQUIDS, I thought to myself. BUT I was appalled that the salesdroids/manager
>not only condoned this behavior, but encourged it, to the point were they
>were betting how long he could keep it up and egged him on to pull a wheely
>as he rode off onto a busy street around rush hour. THe girl that was riding pillion on another bike, seemed rather hormonal about this display, and urged her
>"pilot" to quickly catch up. The others followed, making sure there Kerkers
>could be heard as well as felt.
Um, you gotta understand these "salesdroids" as you call them. They look at
it this way: burn lotsa tire; make lotsa money. I'm sure s/ he knew how
stupid the "HG" was. Would you seriously stop them from burning off
a seasons worth of tire?? The SQUIDS probably would buy Metzelers or some
good low profile tire anyhow...
Yep. Them droids sure a sneaky bastards! ;)
Regards, Ted.
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'89 FZR600: I'm taking a ride with my best friend. DoD#:886699
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In a previous article, spl@pitstop.ucsd.edu (Steve Lamont) says:
>... or consider the thousands in Central America killed by those brave
>CIA/NSC sponsored "Freedom Fighters."
>
>Thus far, Slick Willie is a piker.
ONLY if you weight Americans equal to SAlvadorans.
I don't.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993Apr23.181843.20224@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>,
brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615) wrote:
> Kent, with regards to the information contained in the Bible (which
> is the original context of this thread), Brian Kendig is inside a huge
> wall. Brian *IS* inside. The Bible and the information contained therein
> are outside the wall. Brian Kendig proves this very sad fact by the
> absurd things he says. For example, "If I get through into the firey
> pit, I will cease to exist." The Bible doesn't say that. He hasn't
> a clue even to what Jesus said about hell. That is but one example.
Looking at your discussion I would say that you both operate
from your own reference frame. There's no inside and no outside,
there are just two polarized views. As for statements inside the
Bible, things are still not that clear, we don't have any indications
for instance why Jobs was placed in the Old Testament, one of the
few books that actually talks about Satan. Jobs is very much out
of line with the rest of the OT books, and there's a chance that
someone added this book later into the group of OT scriptures.
> Now in your sense, Kent, of sensing reality--that is a different
> matter. And to you and to Brian, relativity does play a big role.
> What we perceive to be true, depends on our vantage point. Since I
> have read the Bible, and Brian Kendig shows that he hasn't, he has
> a narrower perspective than mine (at least in the respect
> of knowledge of the Bible). I am proposing to Brian, "Brian, come up here
> and take a look from this vantage point." But Brian replies, "I rather
> not thank you. I am content where I am. Besides, the vista from up
> there stinks." And in the meanwhile, Brian ignores the facts that
> he has never up there nor does he realize I had shared the same
> plateau where Brian now stands.
This operates the other way around as well. You have to understand
the mind of an atheist, agnostic, or as in my case, a radical
relativist. If you don't understand the underlying concepts, it is
pretty hard to continue with a dialogue. I'm not a perfect Christian,
however about 20+ years of Christian teaching should have provided
me with a pretty good picture of the Christian mind frame.
Cheers,
Kent
---
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| 19talk.religion.misc |
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| 6misc.forsale |
In article <tenneyC62HqH.6s1@netcom.com> Glenn S. Tenney,
tenney@netcom.com writes:
> of interest. I understand that on 29 April, Mr. Markey will be holding
a
> hearing on the questions raised in this letter. There may also be a
follow-on
> hearing dedicated to the clipper chip, but that's not definite.
Glenn,
Thanks for posting that. I was surprised to notice, however, that one
question I might have expected to be asked was not: "Are all forms of
strong encryption other than the Clipper to be made illegal?" Speaking
of which, is anyone aware of whether that question *has* been asked of
any knowledgeable or official spokesperson for the government? I have
not yet seen it mentioned in any of a dozen places it might have been
reported, but I could have easily missed it.
Ted Lee
Trusted Information System, Inc. tmplee@tis.com
PO Box 1718
Minnetonka, MN 55345
| 11sci.crypt |
Patrick Walker <F1HH@UNB.CA> writes:
>
>If he ever tried some like that on a Yzerman, he'd
>would have to deal with Probert now wouldn't he?
Do you realize how many smiles are crossing faces after you wrote that?
(-;
gld
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary L. Dare
> gld@columbia.EDU GO Winnipeg Jets GO!!!
> gld@cunixc.BITNET Selanne + Domi ==> Stanley
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1993Apr16.214300.12920@ac.dal.ca>,
seanmcd@ac.dal.ca writes:
>In article <186177@pyramid.pyramid.com>, andrem@pyrtech.mis.pyramid.com (Andre Molyneux) writes:
>> In article <1qksuq$1tt8@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu>, mirsky@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu
>> (David Joshua Mirsky) writes:
>> |> Hi. I own an LCIII and I recently heard an interesting rumor.
>> |> I heard that the LCIII has a built in slot for a PowerPC chip.
>> |> Is this true? I heard that the slot is not the same as the PDS
>> |> slot. Is that true?
>> |>
>> |> Thanks
>> |> David Mirsky
>> |> mirsky@gnu.ai.mit.edu
>>
>> Well, I also have an LC III. Popping the top revealed:
>>
>> One "socket" for an additional VRAM SIMM
>>
>> One "socket" for a 72-pin RAM SIMM
>>
>> One socket for a flat-pack FPU
>>
>> A processor-direct slot (PDS) identical to the LC/LC II, but with
>> an additional set of connetions to one side (for the full 32-bit
>> data path that the LC/LC II lacked
>>
>> That's it. I guess a board with a PowerPC chip could be made that would fit
>> in the PDS, but that's the only place.
>>
>So, will it be possible to have a NuBus or PDS PowerPC upgrade, or will it
>require a logic board swap? It would be interesting for Apple to come out with
>a NuBus PowerPC that allowed use of the CPU's 680x0, like RocketShare. But I
>guess that's getting a bit fantastic!
>
>I was wondering, since MacWeek reported that developers were 'seeded' with
>PowerPCs on a NuBus card.
>
>Also, any word on machine arrivals or estimated speed? Last I heard, the
>estimates were around 3-4 times the speed of a Quadra in native RISC mode. I
>heard an Apple employee mumble something about the arrival of PowerPC machines
>at a much earlier date that Q1 94, but I doubt it's true.
>
>Finally, is the PowerPC developer's CD 'mini-course' available? I saw it
>advertised in the developer's university calendar, and I'd like to know if it's
>at all *interesting*.
>
>Sean
>--------------
>seanmcd@ac.dal.ca
Radius speculated, publicly, that they could provide a PowerPC-based
Rocket for existing Macs. It would have the plus of RocketShare and
the minus of NuBus accelerators - no true boot off the accelerator,
NuBus bottleneck to video and other I/O.
Apple, it seems, will not compete with third parties here -- except
perhaps for not-yet-available Macs like Cyclone, where a PowerPC
slot might be advertised. Look for Daystar and such to make PowerPC
accelerators.
One potential problem with any accelerator, though, is that it will
need a ROM companion and Apple has licensed only Radius, with
Rocketshare, to use any of its proprietary code.
Apple is, between the lines, trying to let us know that PowerPC Macs
will have simplified logic boards due to the magical nature of RISC
and that these boards should be much cheaper to build than those in
existing 68040 Macs. Perhaps, then, we'll see groundbreaking
prices in Mac-logic board upgrades, much the same way we've seen
much cheaper high-performance CPUs this year.
First generation PowerPCs, 98601s, will also hopefully have socketed
CPUs so that they'll be chip upgradeable to 98604s a year later.
This should be possible in much the same way that 486s can be pulled
for clock doublers. If there is too much technical baggage (which
I doubt since the external busses are the same size/width) to do
this, perhaps we can have CPU daughterboard, a la Powerbook, as
standard to facilitate better CPU upgrades. This is an area where
Apple has fallen far behing the Intel-based world. Perhaps catchup
is in order.
By the way, last week's PC week had an excellent story on PowerPC,
Pentium, MIPS R4000, DEC Alpha (the big four on the microprocessor
front for the forseeable future). Worth reading for technojunkies.
Also, the latest PC has a cover story on Pentium. Read it, and all
the other stories about how Intel is unstoppable and preeminent
right now.
Once anyone is this secure, they are due to fall. Intel's market
position will never again be as dominant as it is today (especially
if AMD gets the go ahead to sell its 486s this week as it appears it
might). The competition from all fronts is gearing up for an awesome
battle. Apple users should be excited that PowerPC, while not
guaranteed dominance, is a guaranteed winner, even if its one of
several.
Mark
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <22APR199300513566@vxcrna.cern.ch> casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE) writes:
>>Are you aware that there is an arms embargo on all of what is/was
>>Yugoslavia, including Bosnia, which guarantees massive military
>>superiority of Serbian forces and does not allow the Bosnians to
>>try to defend themselves?
>Should we sell weapons to all sides, or just the losing one, then?
Ending an embargo does not _we_ must sell anything at all.
>If the Europeans want to sell weapons to one or both sides, they are welcome
>as far as I'm concerned.
You seem to oppose ending the embargo. You know, it is difficult for Europeans
to sell weapons when there is an embargo in place.
>I do not automatically accept the argument that Bosnia is any worse than
>other recent civil wars, say Vietnam for instance. The difference is it is
>happening to white people inside Europe, with lots of TV coverage.
But if this was the reason, and if furthermore both sides are equal, wouldn't
all us racist Americans be favoring the good Christians (Serbs) instead
of the non-Christians we really seem to favor?
--
"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Leftover Turkey!
On the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Turkey Casserole
that she made from Leftover Turkey.
[days 3-4 deleted] ... Flaming Turkey Wings! ...
-- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu/A*gic bait)
Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Report them to your local BBB (Better Business Bureau).
Bill Claussen
| 13sci.med |
I'm looking for a replacement radio/tape player for a 1984
Toyota Tercel. Standard off-the-shelf unit is fine, but
every place I've gone to (Service Merchandise, etc.) doesn't
have my car in its model application book. I want to just
take out the old radio, and slide in the new, with minimal time
spent hooking it up and adjusting the dashboard.
If you have put in a new unit in a similar car, I'd like to hear
what brand, how easy it was to do the change, and any other
relevant information.
Please answer via E-mail.
Thanks, Tom Ostrand
--
Tom Ostrand E-mail: tjo@scr.siemens.com
Siemens Corporate Research Phone: 609-734-6569
755 College Road East FAX: 609-734-6565
Princeton, NJ 08540-6668
| 7rec.autos |
In article <sandvik-150493181533@sandvik-kent.apple.com>,
sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes...
>In article <1993Apr15.200231.10206@ra.royalroads.ca>,
>mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm Lee) wrote:
>> These laws written for the Israelites...
>> Remember, these laws were written for a different time and applied
>> only to God's chosen people. But Jesus has changed all of that. We
>> are living in the age of grace. Sin is no longer immediately punishable
>> by death. There is repentance and there is salvation through our
>> Lord Jesus Christ. And not just for a few chosen people. Salvation
>> is available to everyone, Jew and Gentile alike.
>
>Jews won't agree with you, Malcolm.
Which Jews KS?
(ex. as a people, as a language, religiously, politically, or...)
Do you mean those Jews who are God's chosen?
{And Malcolm, please, if you will, set your word wrap at 75 or less
to avoid clutter?}
|
-- J --
|
| stephen
| 19talk.religion.misc |
I am urgently looking for the following article, but I can't seem to
find it anywhere here:
"The Multi-Threaded X Server"
John Allen Smith
The X Resource
Issue 1, pp. 73-89, Winter 1992
If anyone can tell me where to find it, it WILL be much appreciated.
H.F. Sadie
Departement of Computer Science
University of Stellenbosch
South Africa
e-mail: sadie@itu.sun.ac.za
| 5comp.windows.x |
cptully@med.unc.edu (Christopher P. Tully,Pathology,62699) writes:
>Why so up tight? FOr that matter, TIFF6 is out now, so why not gripe
>about its problems? Also, if its so important to you, volunteer to
>help define or critique the spec.
HEAR HEAR!!!
>Finally, a little numerology: 42 is 24 backwards, and TIFF is a 24 bit
>image format...
REALLY? i thought that the reason it was 42 was that it is REALLY 24, but
written as 42 so that on Intel chips you could get the proper value :)
-pete
help stomp out the endian wars... break some eggs on their sides!
--
Peter Mueller (TheBishop) | When a person commits a violation and sins
highlndr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu | unintentionally in regard to any of the
pmueller@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu | Lord's holy things, he is to bring to the
| Lord as a penalty, a ram from the flock...
| 1comp.graphics |
I have found a situation which I think is a bug in X or Motif, but I'm hoping
is really just a mistake on my part. Does anyone know anything about
this problem........
- I am using an XmTextField, and setting its XmNvalue to a hardcoded
text string (ascii or Kanji) either via XtSetValues or XmTextSetString.
The problem is that when the XmTextField is displayed, the text is getting
truncated, depending on the setting of the environment variables
LANG (more specifically LC_ALL). When they are set to japanese,
the text gets truncated. When they are set to english, everything
works fine. I am taking the default for XmNcolumns.
(Please note that hardcoding of text is NOT done in my actual
application, just in my sample code to make things easier)
- I am running Motif 1.2, X11R5 via HPUX9.01. My test program is set up
to handle 16 bit Kanji characters. I have remembered to do
XtSetLanguageProc() prior to my MrmInitialize and my font resources
are set to japanese fonts.
- Don't know if this matters, but my dialog box and TextField is initially
created with UIL.
The problem does NOT happen with XmText. Unfortunately substituting
XmTextFields with XmTexts in my application is not an acceptable
alternative (way too much code to be modified while in beta!)
I have a small test program which illustrates the problem if anyone
wants it. My best guess is that either the X code or Motif is not
properly allocating memory for japanese, but since I don't have the
source to look at it is just a guess.
Please let me know if this sounds familiar, or if you have a suggestion,
or if you want the sample program.
THANKS!!!!!!!!
- Susan
swalker@bbn.com
617-873-8190
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1993Apr21.082152@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be> wimvh@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be (Wim Van Holder) writes:
>Is it possible to use WinQVT/Net on a machine that uses NDIS to connect to a
>Token Ring ? I tried it with older versions (< 3.2) but got an invalid packet
>class error or something the like...
How are you attempting to do that?
Are you using the DIS_PKT9 program? This provides a packet driver on
top of the NDIS driver.
--
Thomas Beagle | thomas@datamark.co.nz Work: 64 4 233 8186 __o
Technical Writer | thomas@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz Home: 64 4 499 3832 _-\<,
Wellington, NZ | Hound for hire. Will work for dog biscuits. (_)/(_)
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
>According to the (seen several times) postings from Dale Adams of Apple
>Computer, both the 610 and the 650 require 80ns SIMMS - NOT 60 ns. Only
>the Centris 800 requires 60 ns SIMMs.
>
>Pete
I think you meant Quadra 800 ..... (but a Centris 800 probably
would be a real nice machine... :) )
But yeah, it needs 80ns not 60ns.
Joel
--
Joel Siegel <jdsiegel@garnet.berkeley.edu jdsiegel@ocf.berkeley.edu>
"I myself have never been able to find out what feminism is: I
only know that I am called a feminist whenever I express
sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat." -Rebecca West, 1913
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
bil@okcforum.osrhe.edu (Bill Conner) writes: >
>I see that you still can't grasp the obvious, is it because your are devious
>by nature, or can you only find fault with an argument by
>misrepresenting it?
Gee, since you ignored the entire substance of my substantial
post, you got a lot of nerve claiming that I don't understand
what's being talked about.
Respond to the previous post or shut the fuck up. You're
really annoying.
--
Maddi Hausmann madhaus@netcom.com
Centigram Communications Corp San Jose California 408/428-3553
Kids, please don't try this at home. Remember, I post professionally.
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <1993Apr20.025331.17413@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
>
>We cannot isolate the total contribution that any player at any position
>makes to his team's victory. And since we cannot make that measure with
>complete confidence of objectivity, and since there is no absolutely
>necessary reason to make that kind of subjective measurement I submit to
>you that it is pointless. If a GM is trying to put together a winning
>team he might consider ERA, he might consider attitude, he might consider
>past performance in key situations. But what he is looking for is not
>the player that he considers the "best". The GM is looking for the player
>he thinks can help his team win.
We cannot isolate completely, Roger, but we can make a pretty good
estimate. I won't claim to split hairs and say that we can really
measure who was better, Robby Alomar or Carlos Baerga, last year; the
difference is too close to call. But Larkin and Lee? Clemens and
Morris? The differences are too great there.
In your measure of the game, why should a team that has just won it
all ever replace a single player? Since they are now clearly "best",
how can they do better? Yet every team can always find someplace where
they beleive they can improve the team; they can always find a player
a little better than one they already have. (BTW, by my definitions,
the "best" player is the one who does the most things to help his team
win. I will allow that this could vary depending on who else is on the
team, by having aptitudes one team needs more than others.)
Baseball is a team game, but it is made of individual talents. It is
absurd to judge the success or failure of an individual by the success
or failure of his teammates, whom he did not choose (at least in most
cases.) Morris won last year because he played on a team with Joe
Carter, Robby Alomar, Tom Henke, Juan Guzman, John Olerud, et al.
Clemens lost because he was surrounded by such lesser performers as
Herm Winninham, Luis Rivera, and Jeff Reardon. To define the quality
of the team as a sum of its components (as I do, albeit imperfectly)
is a lesser error than defining the quality of an individual as the
mean quality of the team (as my reading of your arguments suggests you
do)
Clay D.
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Idea for repair of satellites:
Warning I am getting creative again:
Why not build a inflatable space dock.
Basically deploy one side of the space dock (using a scissor shaped structure,
saw it on beyond 2000), then maneuer the side to next to the satellite and then
move the rest of the dock around the satellite and seal it..
The inflate the dock with a gas (is does not have to be oxygen, just neeeds to
be non-flameble, non-damaging to the satellite and abel to maintain heat),
thenheat the space dock (for the astronaut who will be working onthe satellite
to be able to not have to wear the normal bulky space suit, but a much striped
down own)..
I know this might take a slot of work or not??? Or just to plain wierd, but
ideas need to be thought of, for where is tomorrow, but in the imagination of
the present..
==
Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
| 14sci.space |
In <thia.735836016@mira.sce.carleton.ca> thia@sce.carleton.ca (Yong Thia) writes:
>Hi! I was wondering if anyone out there could help me.
>I have an error message that goes:
>
>
>
>What does it mean?
>
>I am running MS windows 3.1.
Ummm.. I think you left the message out...
I get these protection faults all the time on my machine at work, a
486 33MHz with 4MB RAM, Windows 3.1, with Dos 5.0.
At home (on a 386 40MHz, 8MB RAM, Windows 3.1 and Dos 5.0) I *never* get
these.
Any idea what could be wrong? Someone already suggested I check for tmp
files in the windows/temp directory, there are none there.
The message I get is:
This application has violated system integrity due to an invalid
general protection fault and will be terminated.
I only have this problem with applications running in DOS boxes (with or
without .pif files setup for them).
Any hints/help greatly appreciated. Please post since at least one other
person is also having gpf problems.
Thanks,
Gordon
--
=============================================================================
Gordon Edwards, N4VPH | "Nothing Unreal Exists"
NCR Engineering & Manufacturing |
gedwards@ncratl.atlantaga.ncr.com | Kiri-Kin-Tha's First Law of Metaphysics
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
As I was created in the image of Gaea, therefore I must
be the pinnacle of creation, She which Creates, She which
Births, She which Continues.
Or, to cut all the religious crap, I'm a woman, thanks.
And it's sexism that started me on the road to atheism.
--
Maddi Hausmann madhaus@netcom.com
Centigram Communications Corp San Jose California 408/428-3553
Kids, please don't try this at home. Remember, I post professionally.
| 0alt.atheism |
From: <tom>
Subject: computer cult
From scott Fri Apr 23 16:31:21 1993
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From: Scott Weikart <scott>
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Subject: Next stand-off?
Status: R
Redwood City, CA (API) -- A tense stand-off entered its third week
today as authorities reported no progress in negotiations with
charismatic cult leader Steve Jobs.
Negotiators are uncertain of the situation inside the compound, but
some reports suggest that half of the hundreds of followers inside
have been terminated. Others claim to be staying of their own free
will, but Jobs' persuasive manner makes this hard to confirm.
In conversations with authorities, Jobs has given conflicting
information on how heavily prepared the group is for war with the
industry. At times, he has claimed to "have hardware which will blow
anything else away", while more recently he claims they have stopped
manufacturing their own.
Agents from the ATF (Apple-Taligent Forces) believe that the group is
equipped with serious hardware, including 486-caliber pieces and
possibly Canon equipment.
The siege has attracted a variety of spectators, from the curious to
other cultists. Some have offered to intercede in negotiations,
including a young man who will identify himself only as "Bill" and
claims to be the "MS-iah".
Former members of the cult, some only recently deprogrammed, speak
hesitantly of their former lives, including being forced to work
20-hour days, and subsisting on Jolt and Twinkies. There were
frequent lectures in which they were indoctrinated into a theory of
"interpersonal computing" which rejects traditional roles.
Late-night vigils on Chesapeake Drive are taking their toll on
federal marshals. Loud rock and roll, mostly Talking Heads, blares
throughout the night. Some fear that Jobs will fulfill his own
apocalyptic prophecies, a worry reinforced when the loudspeakers
carry Jobs' own speeches -- typically beginning with a chilling "I
want to welcome you to the 'Next World' ".
- - --
Roland J. Schemers III | Networking Systems
Systems Programmer | G16 Redwood Hall (415) 723-6740
Distributed Computing Group | Stanford, CA 94305-4122
Stanford University | schemers@Slapshot.Stanford.EDU
| 14sci.space |
In article <1993Apr24.215126.19802@dsd.es.com>, bgardner@pebbles.es.com (Blaine Gardner) writes:
>
> Make sure you ride US 12 between Capitol Reef and Bryce, it's been on a
> number of "top 10 roads" lists.
Did they ever put in any gas stations on US 12? I rode through there in
1987, skipped a fillup at Bryce Canyon and rode 100+ miles before seeing
a gas station at Torrey. Awesome road, I recall riding up a narrow ridge
above 9,000? 10,000? feet.
-Bruce
--
Bruce Tanner (310) 860-2451 x 596 Tanner@Cerritos.EDU
Cerritos College Norwalk, CA DoD #0161 NOMAD #007
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Could somebody please _email_ me some info on either what gif or iff
file formats are, or where I can get such info?
thanx
rtaraz@wpi.wpi.edu
| 1comp.graphics |
jemurray@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John E Murray) writes:
> I would like the opinion of netters on a subject that has been bothering my
> wife and me lately: liturgy, in particular, Catholic liturgy. In the last fe
> years it seems that there are more and more ad hoc events during Mass. It's
> driving me crazy! The most grace-filled aspect of a liturgical tradition is
> that what happens is something we _all_ do together, because we all know how
> do it. Led by the priest, of course, which makes it a kind of dialogue we
> present to God. But the best Masses I've been to were participatory prayers.
On the one hand there are advantages to having the liturgy stay the
same. John has described some of these. On the other hand, some people
seem to start tuning out `the same old words' and pay attention better
when things get changed around. I think innovative priests and liturgy
committees are trying to get our attention and make things more
meaningful for us. It drives me crazy too.
Different people have differing preferences and needs in liturgy. My
local parish is innovative. I prefer to go to Mass at the next parish
over. Sometimes we don't have the option of attending a Mass in the
style which best suits us. John put a smiley on it but to "just offer
it up" probably is the solution.
A related issue, that it sounds like John does not have to deal with, is
that spouses may have different liturgical tastes. My husband does like
innovative litury. It is a challenge to meet both of our spiritual
needs without just going our separate ways. When you include the factor
of also trying to satisfy our children's needs, things get pretty
complicated.
One thing to remember is that even the most uncongenial Mass is still
Mass.
Jayne Kulikauskas/ jayne@mmalt.guild.org
| 15soc.religion.christian |
joe.kusmierczak@mail.trincoll.edu wrote:
> People like you cheapen our constitution by using it to defend sociopaths
> who aren't deserved of it.
There it is. The Constitution isn't for "sociopaths", only "normal"
people, eh? We mustn't allow our Constitution to be cheapened by applying
it to everybody, eh?
You disgust me.
--John L. Scott
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1993Apr15.153312.4125@research.nj.nec.com> behanna@syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes:
>In article <tcora-140493155620@b329-gator-3.pica.army.mil> tcora@pica.army.mil (Tom Coradeschi) writes:
>>In article <1993Apr14.125209.21247@walter.bellcore.com>,
[...]
>>BZZZT! If it is the other driver's fault, your insurance co pays you, less
>>deductible, then recoups the total cost from the other guy/gal's company
>>(there's a fancy word for it, which escapes me right now), and pays you the
>>deductible. Or: you can go to the other guy/gal's company right off - just
>>takes longer to get your cash (as opposed to State Farm, who cut me a check
>>today, on the spot, for the damage to my wife's cage).
>
> The word is "subrogation." Seems to me, if you're willing to wait
>for the money from scumbag's insurance, that you save having to pay the
>deductible. However, if scumbag's insurance is Scum insurance, then you may
>have to pay the deductible to get your insurance co.'s pack of rabid, large-
>fanged lawyers to recover the damages from Scum insurance's lawyers.
>
> Sad, but true. Call it job security for lawyers.
>
>Later,
>--
>Chris BeHanna DoD# 114 1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide - Jubilee's Red Lady
[...]
You know, it sounds suspiciously like no fault doesn't even do what it
was advertised as doing---getting the lawyers out of the loop.
Sigh. Another naive illusion down the toilet....
-----
Tommy McGuire
mcguire@cs.utexas.edu
mcguire@austin.ibm.com
"...I will append an appropriate disclaimer to outgoing public information,
identifying it as personal and as independent of IBM...."
| 8rec.motorcycles |
My computer won't recognise my disk after a reboot (Windows crash - Grrr!!)
Are there any options to restore everything, without losing data?
The drive previously had 3 partitions, but I do not remember the exact
settings.
I have copies of the boot data from the disk (PC-tools rescue disk). I do not
want to lose my data - 340MB IDE drive. Do I have any options?
--
===========================================================================
Gerry George | Anything good in life is either
School of Management, Boston Univ. | illegal, immoral or fattening.
Internet: ggeorge@acs.bu.edu | Any item not in the above three
Compu$erve: 72607.2560@compuserve.com | categories causes cancer in rats!
===========================================================================
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Hi everyone,
I'm experiencing a very annoying problem with background printing
on the HP Deskwriter (Sys 7.1, Deskwriter driver 3.1, PowerBook 170).
When I print from, say, MS Word, I see the message "Spooling to disk,"
but sometimes nothing prints. Checking my memory map thanks to Now Menus,
I see that HP Backgrounder has not loaded. Restarting fixes this. It
seems to me that HP Backgrounder is quitting unexpectedly, and that its
status as "Multifinder NOT aware" allows it to do this without my being
informed by a message such as "HP Backgrounder quit unexpectedly." Have
you ever seen this problem before.
There may or may not be a related problem. I have experienced
problems in putting my computer to sleep. Choosing "sleep" from the
Finder menu sometimes does nothing. Today on a whim I checked the memory
map, and I discovered that HP backgrounder was not loaded. Restarted
reloaded HP backgrounder, and I was able to put my machine to sleep as
usual. Just a mere coincidence or is the HP backgrounder crash preventing
my machine from going to sleep?
Has anyone seen this problem? I'm seriously considering the purchase of
a StylewriterII because of the poor quality of the HP software.
Please send your answers directly to me and post to the net.
Yours truly,
Marc Bizer
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In <julkunen.734086202@messi.uku.fi> julkunen@messi.uku.fi (Antero
Julkunen) writes:
>There is this newsgroup sci.med.physics and there has been quite a lot
>discussion in this group about many chemical items e.g. prolactin
>cholesterol, TSH etc. Should there also be a newsgroup sci.med.chemistry?
It's got potential. Instead of *.chemistry, how about splitting the
classification into *.biochemistry (which are probably the topics
you're thinking of) and *.pharmaceutical (which otherwise might end up
in *.(bio)chemistry)?
(This is separate from the issue of whether there is sufficient potential
news volume to support either or both groups.)
I'll add 'em to my medical/health newsgroup wish list (which I'm looking
forward to posting and discussing -- but not for another 10 days or so).
Pete
| 13sci.med |
In article <1993Mar19.215728.24473@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>Armenians did not genocide Turks.
See, you are a compulsive liar.
Source: "Men Are Like That" by Leonard Ramsden Hartill. The Bobbs-Merrill
Company, Indianapolis (1926). (305 pages).
(Memoirs of an Armenian officer who participated in the genocide of 2.5
million Muslim people)
p. 202 (first and second paragraphs).
"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as
ways of escape for the Tartars and then proceeded in the work
of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village.
Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts
into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable
and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets
completed the work."
(to be continued...)
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Now available: xvertext 4.0
--------------
Summary
-------
xvertext provides you with four functions to draw strings at any angle in
an X window (previous versions were limited to vertical text). Rotation
is still achieved using XImages, but the notion of rotating a whole font
first has been dropped.
What's new?
-----------
I've added a cache which keeps a copy of previously rotated strings - thus
speeding up redraws.
Where can I get it?
-------------------
comp.sources.x (soon...)
export.lcs.mit.edu : contrib/xvertext.4.0.shar.Z (now)
--
Alan Richardson, * "You don't have to be *
School of Maths & Physical Sciences, * old to be wise" *
Univ. of Sussex, Brighton BN1 9QH, ENGLAND * ******Judas Priest*****
UK: mppa3@uk.ac.sussex.syma elsewhere: mppa3@syma.sussex.ac.uk
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <C61r0B.C7@world.std.com> daved@world.std.com (Dave T Dorfman) writes:
>
>Well the actual ergonomics of the switch make it appear to be a
>2 position switch, but sure enough as Deam expected , when
>you balance the toggle switch in the center position both the high
>and low beams go on.
>
>This provides a very nice light coverage of the
>road.
>
>
Hmmmm I noticed sometime ago that I could do the same on my Virago, and
since I don't read many schematics, I didn't really think aobut it too
much. Yes it does provide excellent coverage, but I figured it would
probably draw a little too much current. I also figured that it was
overlapped just to prevent a blank spot of no headlight. Are you saying
that these switches are designed for the hi/lo combination?
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|Jay Hamillton | XV1000 with more chrome than a Harley|
|hamiltoj@handel.cs.colostate.edu | Time to change the oil AGAIN?!?!?!? |
|DoD#982 and KotCM | |
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| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <81930415084418/0005111312NA3EM@mcimail.com> 0005111312@mcimail.com (Peter Nesbitt) writes:
>Recently while looking around in Traders Sporting Goods store, a very well
>stocked firearms store, I discovered a printed document that was being
>distributed by the good folks who work there. Traders, BTW, is located in
>San Leandro, CA.
.
.
.
>The newspapers have now decided to censor gun ads - which is why you no longer
>see the ads that Traders, San Leandro, has run for many years.
>
>These ads were run for the law-abiding honest citizens who own firearms for
>sporting use or self-protection. They certainly have the right to do so, under
>the Second Amendment Right to Bear Arms.
Are you sure about this? I'm currently looking at a copy of last
Thursday's SF Chronicle and there is the typical one column Traders
ad on page C7 in the Sports section. Not only that, but there is
a part in the middle which rather prominently says "WANTED: We pay
cash for assault rifles and pistols.". Granted, I haven't seen today's
paper yet. But I'd be surprised if there wasn't a Traders ad in it.
It's probably worth it to write to the Chronicle (and other papers)
anyway, because all their anti-gun editorials are disgusting.
By the way, let me put in a plug for Traders. I have shopped all
over the SF Bay Area and I have never seen another store with lower
prices. And their selection is amazing.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Lee Gaucher | My opinions.
gaucher@sam.cchem.berkeley.edu | No one else's.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Dear Folks:
It's a pleasure to be able to announce the release of a new freeware program,
Xavier, an audio and video extension to InterViews.
Xavier(eXtension AV class for IntERviews) is a C++ class library
that adds multimedia capability to InterViews. It allows composite
multimedia objects to be built from media objects.
Specifically, it adds audio and video objects to the classes available
in InterViews 3.0.1/3.1, and it does so without changing the
source code for the original classes (though several configuration
files for InterViews need to be changed via a patch file).
Currently, the Xavier audio classes are only supported on SUN
workstations with an audio interface, such as the SPARCstation2.
Xavier has been tested in the following environments:
SUN:
Machine : SPARCserver470 SPARCstation-IPC
OS : SUN-OS4.1.1 or later
C++ : SUN C++ ver2.1
NEC(EWS):
Machine : EWS4800/210,230
OS : EWS-UX/V(Rel4.0) WSOS41 Release5.1,Release5.2
C++ : C++ Release3.1
It can be obtained via anonymous ftp from
interviews.stanford.edu in /pub/contrib/
(Xavier.large-demo.tar, and Xavier.tar)
We are preparing a mailing-list for information regarding Xavier.
If you are interested, please contact
xavier@tsl.cl.nec.co.jp.
I will add your e-mail address to our list.
[Reference]
o Rei Hamakawa, Hizekazu Sakagami, Jun Rekimoto:
Audio and Video Extension to Graphical Interface Toolkits,
The Third International Workshop on Network and Operating
System Support for Digital Audio and Video, San Diego, 1992
***********************************************************************
* _ *
* \ \ Rei Hamakawa (e-mail: rei@tsl.cl.nec.co.jp) *
* |o| *
* |o| C & C Systems Research Laboratories *
* |o| __ NEC Corporation *
* O| || / 1-1, Miyazaki 4-Chome, TEL : +81-44-856-2271 *
* O| || | Miyamae-ku, Kawasaki, FAX : +81-44-856-2232 *
* O| \/ | Kanagawa 216 JAPAN *
* \__/ *
***********************************************************************
| 5comp.windows.x |
>Would someone please post the generic addresses for Congress and
>Senate so that we can all write letters?
US House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
US Senate
Washington, DC 20510
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1993Apr20.032017.5783@wuecl.wustl.edu>, jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar) writes:
>
> It was nice to see ESPN show game 1 between the Wings and Leafs since
> the Cubs and Astros got rained out. Instead of showing another baseball
> game, they decided on the Stanley Cup Playoffs. A classy move by ESPN.
>
It was good to see the Wings play, but lets not give ESPN too much credit.
There weren't any other late baseball games on so they didn't have another
option.
Eric Sebastian
Go Pens...
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
From article <kOu2rAIJBh107h@axion.UUCP>, by wefiii@axion.UUCP (Warren E. Fridy III):
> In <1993Apr22.204406.20330@vpnet.chi.il.us> lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky) writes:
>
>>(2) Can you set up a short-cut key to return to the Program Manager?
>> I know <CTL><ESC>, <ESC> will do it, but I'd rather set it up so I
>> can avoid the task list and get back to the P/M with <ALT><F1>.
>
> You might try the recorder and make a micro.
=====
Now isn't that just amazing?? :)
Seriously, add program manager to your startup group and define a
shortcut for it. Works.
-zi
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Looking for a Mac PB 100 that's in good condition (brand new, w/warranty
would be ideal). It should also include the external floppy drive and have
at least a 40 MEG internal hard drive with 4 MEG of RAM.
So... if you have a PB100 that you'd like to turn into cash, please write me.
Thanks, very much.
--
billy@irvine.com
Billyb (** Bouncer **)
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <1993Apr15.234451.15707@leland.Stanford.EDU> thomper@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dale Buford Thompson) writes:
>>My company maintains a 20,000+ mailing list which is regularly rented for
> ^^^^^^^^^^
Oh no! Someone is provided useful information AND mentioned that they
made money in the field. Don't they know that usenet is reserved for
uninformed speculation by people trying to sell their personal stuff
(from houses to dead pcs) at a huge markup/trying to unload stuff they
bought from their company at just under retail, and other
"non-commercial" activities.
>>a MS Windows utility product in the $100 range, and is available through
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Direct Media in CT., at $0.10 per name. Please let your direct mail
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ !!!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>marketing rep. know about this.. Thanks.
>> !!!! !!!!! !!!!
>
>It is my impression that net etiquette does not allow companies to
>use the net to directly advertise their products.
The net is not "supposed" to be a dumping ground for free ads, but
reserving it for tripe doesn't seem to be a significant improvement.
>In addition to improper etiquette, this product is a mailing list
>used for generating junk mail.
So? Either they target it well enough to pay for it, in other words,
they manage to send it to people who want the stuff (in which case it
is junk only for the "rest" and the transaction costs are borne
appropriately in this case) or they go bankrupt. Seems fair to me.
>Am I correct in assuming this is improper, and if so, what can be
>done to penalize such an improper use?
You could hold your breath. You could kill offending messages as
they come onto your machine and refuse to send them any further,
but not until you turn blue.
-andy
--
| 6misc.forsale |
How can I obtain public information (documentation and sources)
about Xservers implemented with graphics processors?
I am specially interested in Xservers developed for the TMS34020
Texas Instruments graphic processor.
Please send answer to arana@labein.es
| 5comp.windows.x |
I would like to know if their is any medical consensus
(or consensus within this group) regarding the ethics
of the following:
1: Prescription of placebo medications when the patient
did not specifically request any sort of treatment.
2: Selling a placebo medication for a profit.
3: Prescribing homeopathic remedies without advising
a patient of their "controversial nature".
4: Representing homeopathic remedies as "over the counter"
medications.
Thanks,
Nick Ingegneri
| 13sci.med |
If I have one thing to say about "No Fault" it would be
"It isn't"
--
##########################################################
There are only two types of ships in the NAVY; SUBMARINES
and TARGETS !!!
#1/XS1100LH DoD #956 #2 Next raise
Richard Pierson E06584 vnet: [908] 699-6063
Internet: fist@iscp.bellcore.com,|| UUNET:uunet!bcr!fist
#include <std.disclaimer> My opinions are my own!!!
I Don't shop in malls, I BUY my jeans, jackets and ammo
in the same store.
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Perry Egelmeers (perry@wswiop11.win.tue.nl) wrote:
> ladanyi@cs.cornell.edu (La'szlo' Lada'nyi) writes:
> >Problem: Occasionaly the machine freezes. At least that's what I thought, but
> >recently I discovered that the machine works, just the keyboard freezes and
> >the clock drops down from turbo (33Mhz) to standard (16Mhz) mode.
> Perhaps you hit the ^S (Control S)? Try ^Q.
> I know it doesn't explain the clock rate drop...
We had the same problem in our company. We changed the keyboard-bios and
after that, everything went fine. Our dealer told us that some boards of
that series have a defect kbd-bios.
Michael
--
* michael@jester.gun.de * Michael Gerhards * Preussenstrasse 59 *
* Germany 4040 Neuss * Voice: 49 2131 82238 *
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <99948@rphroy.ph.gmr.com>, rhaar@gmr.com (Bob Haar) writes:
> In article 3056@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com, jdmooney@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (John D. Mooney) writes:
> |>
> |>Someone writes:
> |>>
> |>> BTW, somebody stole the front grille off my beat-up 1983 Nissan Sentra
> |>> a few weeks ago! I couldn't believe it. I'm just driving around
> |>> without it now.
> |>
> |>Years ago, my brother lived in a ROUGH area.... he left his NOVA
> |>parked on the street in FRONT of his house for a few days.....
> |>one day he went to move it back into the driveway, it wouldn't start....
> |>
> |>Seems some industrious fool needed a NOVA GAS TANK..... the fool found
> |>one under my brothers car.
> |>
>
> The engines in VW Beatles are quite easy to remove without entering the car
> or even opening the engine compartment. How would you like to find that
> your car wouldn't start because the engine was stolen?
>
I would probobly feel a hell of a lot poorer... a gas tank is about
50$ in a junkyard. An engine... more!
Seriously though, my other brother, DARRELL, left his VW on the same
street... someone stole the radiator out of it.... try finding a VW
radiator in a junkyard :-) I DARE YOU !
JD
--
********************************************************************************
* John D Mooney Delco Electronics General Motors *
* ------------------ jdmooney@kocrsv01@delcoelect.com -------------------------*
* Opinions expressed are MINE... NOT necessarily DE's or GM's *
| 7rec.autos |
In <0010580B.vma7o9@diablo.UUCP> diablo.UUCP!cboesel (Charles Boesel) writes:
>In article <1993Apr19.171704.2147@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> (comp.graphics.gnuplot,comp.graphics), rdd@uts.ipp-garching.mpg.de (Reinhard Drube) writes:
>>In article <C5ECnn.7qo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, nish@cv4.chem.purdue.edu (Nishantha I.) writes:
>>|> Could somebody let me know of a drawing utility that can be
>>|> used to manipulate postscript files.I am specifically interested in
>>|> drawing lines, boxes and the sort on Postscript contour plots.
>>|> I have tried xfig and I am impressed by it's features. However
>>|> it is of no use since I cannot use postscript files as input for the
>>|> programme.Is there a utility that converts postscript to xfig format?
>>|> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>|> Nishantha
>Have you checked out Adobe Illustrator? There are a few Unix versions
>for it available, depending on your platform. I know of two Unix versions:
>One for Mach (NeXT) and for Irix (SGI). There may be others, such
>as for Sun SparcStation, but I don't know for sure.
You can include postscript epsi files in xfig (encapsulated postscript
info files). You can't actually edit the postscript file, but you're able
to draw over the postscript file.
There a eps to epsi converter: eps2epsi (perl program),
Succes,
--
Ger Timmens (ger@cv.ruu.nl) 3DCV Research Group, Utrecht, The Netherlands
Tel.: +31 -30 50 67 11; Room: F.01.7.03; Fax.: +31 -30 51 33 99
Unquestionably, there is progress. The average American now pays out
twice as much in taxes as he formerly got in wages. --- H. L. Mencken
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <C5suMG.2rF.1@cs.cmu.edu+ flb@flb.optiplan.fi ("F.Baube[tm]") writes:
+At one time there was speculation that the first spacewalk
+(Alexei Leonov ?) was a staged fake.
+
+Has any evidence to support or contradict this claim emerged ?
+
+Was this claim perhaps another fevered Cold War hallucination ?
I, for one, would be an avid reader of a sci.space.ussr.what.really.
happened.
--
Bruce Watson (wats@scicom.alphaCDC.COM) Bulletin 629-49 Item 6700 Extract 75,131
| 14sci.space |
------- Blind-Carbon-Copy
To: spacenews@austen.rand.org, cti@austen.rand.org
Subject: White House outlines options for station, Russian cooperation
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 93 16:00:21 PDT
From: Richard Buenneke <buenneke@austen.rand.org>
4/06/93: GIBBONS OUTLINES SPACE STATION REDESIGN GUIDANCE
NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C.
April 6, 1993
RELEASE: 93-64
Dr. John H. Gibbons, Director, Office of Science and Technology
Policy, outlined to the members-designate of the Advisory Committee on the
Redesign of the Space Station on April 3, three budget options as guidance
to the committee in their deliberations on the redesign of the space
station.
A low option of $5 billion, a mid-range option of $7 billion and a
high option of $9 billion will be considered by the committee. Each
option would cover the total expenditures for space station from fiscal
year 1994 through 1998 and would include funds for development,
operations, utilization, Shuttle integration, facilities, research
operations support, transition cost and also must include adequate program
reserves to insure program implementation within the available funds.
Over the next 5 years, $4 billion is reserved within the NASA
budget for the President's new technology investment. As a result,
station options above $7 billion must be accompanied by offsetting
reductions in the rest of the NASA budget. For example, a space station
option of $9 billion would require $2 billion in offsets from the NASA
budget over the next 5 years.
Gibbons presented the information at an organizational session of
the advisory committee. Generally, the members-designate focused upon
administrative topics and used the session to get acquainted. They also
received a legal and ethics briefing and an orientation on the process the
Station Redesign Team is following to develop options for the advisory
committee to consider.
Gibbons also announced that the United States and its
international partners -- the Europeans, Japanese and Canadians -- have
decided, after consultation, to give "full consideration" to use of
Russian assets in the course of the space station redesign process.
To that end, the Russians will be asked to participate in the
redesign effort on an as-needed consulting basis, so that the redesign
team can make use of their expertise in assessing the capabilities of MIR
and the possible use of MIR and other Russian capabilities and systems.
The U.S. and international partners hope to benefit from the expertise of
the Russian participants in assessing Russian systems and technology. The
overall goal of the redesign effort is to develop options for reducing
station costs while preserving key research and exploration capabilitiaes.
Careful integration of Russian assets could be a key factor in achieving
that goal.
Gibbons reiterated that, "President Clinton is committed to the
redesigned space station and to making every effort to preserve the
science, the technology and the jobs that the space station program
represents. However, he also is committed to a space station that is well
managed and one that does not consume the national resources which should
be used to invest in the future of this industry and this nation."
NASA Administrator Daniel S. Goldin said the Russian
participation will be accomplished through the East-West Space Science
Center at the University of Maryland under the leadership of Roald
Sagdeev.
------- End of Blind-Carbon-Copy
| 14sci.space |
12/12 Armenian Atrocities
MOSCOW (AP) -- Azerbaijani forces on Saturday retook
three villages seized by Armenians and discovered 16 bodies
of executed civilians, Azerbaijani reports said.
The Azerbaijani fighters found 16 bodies of civilians,
including those of a child and two elderly women who were
shot point-blank, "and survivors were killed by a shot to
the back of the head," said a ministry statement, carried by
the Azerbaijani Azerinform and Turan news agencies and the
ITAR-Tass news service.
"Everywhere Armenian occupants were, they left tens of
corpses of civilians shot to death point-blank and
mutilated," the...
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1993May19.003336.10198@midway.uchicago.edu> clmn@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <C78B1w.Kx4@bony1.bony.com> jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) writes:
>>You both seem to have missed the point that most states in the Middle
>>East and North Africa seem to have constant border and territorial
>>disputes, not to mention boiling hatred for each other. The removal
>>of Israel is not going to change this picture.
>As much as I love Israel, I do think it's true that the Arab-Jewish conflict
>over Palestine, which is now almost 100 years old, is the primary cause of
>instability in the Middle East.
Please explain how the removal of Israel from the eqation is going to
ease the situation in Iran, Iran/Iraq, Iraq, Iraq/Kuwait, Syria,
Lebanon, Libya, Algeria, Egypt, Sudan ... Human rights, freedom of
press and religion, slavery, government oppression in authoritarian
societies -- how are these going to be solved by removing Israel
from the Middle East?
--
Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Ten years from now, George Bush will
American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <sgberg.23xu@charon.bloomington.in.us> sgberg@charon.bloomington.in.us (Stefan Berg) writes:
>... I don't know why my FPU has an XC (my original 33MHz FPU
>was label MC68882-33), but it seems to work fine on my system...
>P.S. Or does it mean eXperimental Chip instead of Motorola Chip? .-)
The rule for the designations is that if it says MC, that means it works
*exactly* the way the datasheet/book specifies. If it says XC, that means
there is at least one known bug. Often these bugs are small and obscure;
you might never run into them in practice.
At least Motorola admits it, unlike certain other companies...
--
All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
- Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <16BB6B7CA.I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de> I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) writes:
|In article <1qv7q5$fn4@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>
|frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
|
|>#>#Theism is strongly correlated with irrational belief in absolutes. Irrational
|>#>#belief in absolutes is strongly correlated with fanatism.
|>
|>#>Correlation is not causation. And a belief that absolutes exist is not
|>#>the same thing as a belief in absolutes, any more than belief in a shortest
|>#>route from Thurles to Clonmel is the same thing as a knowledge of the
|>#>Irish roadsystem.
|>
|>#Correlation is not necessarily causation. However, as you might have noticed,
|>#the above allows to conclude that the correlation between religion and fanatism
|>#is based on common features of religious belief.
|
|(Sorry for the long quotes, but I dont see where to cut)
|
|
|>Huh? Are you barking mad?
|>
|
|Hardly.
|
|
|>(1) Theism is not as strongly correlated with fanaticism as you say. PLUS
|> you could find stronger correlations if you were actually interested
|> in the truth instead of being as you seeming are, a bigot.
|>
|
|Theism is correlated with fanaticism. I have neither said that all fanatism
|is caused by theism nor that all theism leads to fanatism. The point is,
|theism increases the chance of becoming a fanatic. One could of course
|argue that would be fanatics tend towards theism (for example), but I just
|have to loook at the times in history when theism was the dominant ideology
|to invalidate that conclusion that that is the basic mechanism behind it.
IMO, the influence of Stalin, or for that matter, Ayn Rand, invalidates your
assumption that theism is the factor to be considered. Gullibility,
blind obedience to authority, lack of scepticism, and so on, are all more
reliable indicators. And the really dangerous people - the sources of
fanaticism - are often none of these things. They are cynical manipulators
of the gullible, who know precisely what they are doing. Now, *some*
brands of theism, and more precisely *some* theists, do tend to fanaticism,
I grant you. To tar all theists with this brush is bigotry, not a reasoned
argument - and it reads to me like a warm-up for censorship and restriction
of religious freedom. Ever read Animal Farm?
|>(2) Define "irrational belief". e.g., is it rational to believe that
|> reason is always useful?
|>
|
|Irrational belief is belief that is not based upon reason. The latter has
|been discussed for a long time with Charley Wingate. One point is that
|the beliefs violate reason often, and another that a process that does
|not lend itself to rational analysis does not contain reliable information.
Well, there is a glaring paradox here: an argument that reason is useful
based on reason would be circular, and argument not based on reason would
be irrational. Which is it?
The first part of the second statement contains no information, because
you don't say what "the beliefs" are. If "the beliefs" are strong theism
and/or strong atheism, then your statement is not in general true. The
second part of your sentence is patently false - counterexample: an
axiomatic datum does not lend itself to rational analysis, but is
assumed to contain reliable information regardless of what process is
used to obtain it.
|Compared the evidence theists have for their claims to the strength of
|their demands makes the whole thing not only irrational but antirational.
I can't agree with this until you are specific - *which* theism? To
say that all theism is necessarily antirational requires a proof which
I suspect you do not have.
|The affinity to fanatism is easily seen. It has to be true because I believe
|it is nothing more than a work hypothesis. However, the beliefs say they are
|more than a work hypothesis.
I don't understand this. Can you formalise your argument?
--
Frank O'Dwyer 'I'm not hatching That'
odwyer@sse.ie from "Hens", by Evelyn Conlon
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <STEINLY.93Apr21152344@topaz.ucsc.edu> steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson) writes:
>Seriously though. If you were to ask the British government
>whether their colonisation efforts in the Americas were cost
>effective, what answer do you think you'd get? What if you asked
>in 1765, 1815, 1865, 1915 and 1945 respectively? ;-)
What do you mean? Are you saying they thought the effort was
profitable or that the money was efficiently spent (providing max
value per money spent)?
I think they would answer yes on ballance to both questions. Exceptions
would be places like the US from the French Indian War to the end of
the US Revolution.
But even after the colonies revolted or where given independance the
British engaged in very lucrative trading with the former colonies.
Five years after the American Revolution England was still the largest
US trading partner.
Allen
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In <1pdj4bINNrtr@crcnis1.unl.edu>, e_p@unl.edu (edgar pearlstein) wrote:
# Are there any places in the Bible where the commandment "Thou
# shalt not kill" is specifically applied? That is, where someone
# refrained from killing because he remembered the commandment.
No, for the excellent reason that there IS no such commandment.
Aside from that, please note that the Abrahamic literary tradition
is strong on narrative, light on dialog, and virtually nonexistent
w/r/t introspection.
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In article <1993Apr17.184948.4847@microsoft.com> russpj@microsoft.com (Russ Paul-Jones) writes:
>In article <1993Apr16.193723.19050@asl.dl.nec.com> duffy@aslss02.asl.dl.nec.com (Joseph Duffy) writes:
>>
>>How does one falsify any origin theory? For example, are a forever existing
>>universe or abiogenesis strictly falsifiable?
>
>The same way that any theory is proven false. You examine the predicitions
>that the theory makes, and try to observe them. If you don't, or if you
>observe things that the theory predicts wouldn't happen, then you have some
>evidence against the theory. If the theory can't be modified to
>incorporate the new observations, then you say that it is false.
>
>For example, people used to believe that the earth had been created
>10,000 years ago. But, as evidence showed that predictions from this
>theory were not true, it was abandoned.
>
>-Russ Paul-Jones
>russpj@microsoft.com
But how does one handle the nonrepeatability of the experiment? In many types ofexperiments the "prediction" is that the observed phenomena will happen again
and be capable of being observed. For example, in chemistry someone may predict
the outcome of a chemical reaction and then actually observe that reaction
repeatedly. You can't repeat or ever know for sure the original conditions that
produced life. So it seems we could never say, "That's exactly how it happened."As far as we know that event was unobserved. (At least no one has admitted
it. :-) ) So unlike the chemistry experiment repeatability and observability,
strictly speaking, are lacking.
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| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <002251w.5.734117130@axe.acadiau.ca> 002251w@axe.acadiau.ca
(JASON WALTER WORKS) writes:
> The N.Y.Yankees, are now one game closer to the A.L.East pennant.
They
> clobbered Cleveland, 9-1, on a fine pitching performance by Key, and two
> homeruns by Tartabull(first M.L.baseball to go out this season), and a
three
> run homer by Nokes. For all of you who didn't pick Boggs in your pools,
> tough break, he had a couple hits, and drove in a couple runs(with many
more
> to follow). The Yanks beat an up and coming team of youngsters in the
> Indians. The Yankees only need to win 95 more games to get the
division.
> GO YANKS., Mattingly for g.glove, and MVP, and Abbot for Cy Young.
>
> ---> jason.
Jason, I am going to a yankee game wed night at cleveland stadium. I am so
happy.
But Cleveland is a very bad team who lost severalrs. They were an up and
coming team, now they are just a sad excuse for a better average.
ABBOT WILL NOT WIN THE CY.!!!!!! MELIDO PEREZ WILL. as bold a prediction
as they come., Well herOT be in last place by the end of the season. Mike
lurie Speaks, and the world listens.
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