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sodium.asc.slb.com@asc.slb.com (Michael A. Montgomery) writes:
>I believe that the God has preserved the Bible perfectly in that it
>perfectly conveys all of the truth that He intended. This He has done
Oh yea? Which version of the Bible is the perfectly preserved one? And
why are there so many translations that are not perfectly preserved? Is
God trying to confuse us?
>Minor changes in wording or even accidental omission of passages in some
>manuscripts does not change the truth being conveyed, nor would it lead a
>serious student into doctrinal error. (Note also that God provided many
But that is exactly what happend. There are so many branches of
denominations of Christianity and deviations of doctrine portruding
from varying translations of biblical texts by "serious students" that
are much too numerous to begin to count. If there is a Perfect Bible,
then there would be no possible misinterpretation and there would be
no need for anyone here to be debating it. On the other hand, maybe
the Bible is perfect, but no one on this planet is perfect enough to
read it correctly, but then there would be no point in God giving us
something we cannot use correctly.
>In short, if you attack the credibility and reliability of the Bible, you
>are on weak ground. Furthermore, the only reason that I can see for wanting
>to do so is to remove the Bible as the final authority, and instead put
>that responsibility on men to sift the Bible to strain out the nuggets of
>truth that it contains (in other words, what they want to believe), and
>ignore the rest. The Bible IS Truth; it does not just contain truth.
IMHO, if you trust your salvation on the reliability of a single book,
you are on weak ground. Remember, In the beginning was the Word, and
the Word was with God, and the Word was God. This Word existed BEFORE
the Bible was written. (Note: Word <==> God). This Word that John is
trying to describe cannot be fully described in any written language,
all languages being IMPERFECT. Realization comes only from contemplation
of the Word, and is outside the boundaries of language. I use the Bible
as a guide, a stepping stone, but in no way is it my final authority.
God alone is the final authority.
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| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1993Apr21.092613.1344@hsh.com> binger@hsh.com writes:
>In article <1993Apr20.150337.2963@rd.hydro.on.ca>, jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (
Jody Levine) writes:>>>So the question I have is "HOW DANGEROUS IS
RIDING"? >>
>I might only add two things.... stupid road design (or poor, at least) and
Here in Louisiana the State Sign is "CAUTION - SUB-STANDARD ROADWAY".
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| 8rec.motorcycles |
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| 1comp.graphics |
In article <13581@news.duke.edu>, fierkelab@bchm.biochem.duke.edu
(Eric Roush) writes...
>In article <1qv9agINN3ba@shelley.u.washington.edu>
> tannerg@hardy.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
>>No, but I am for starting rec.sports.idiots for people who respond to
>>obvious flamebait.
>Nah, let's reserve rec.sports.idiots for people who POST
>obvious flamebait, like yourself.
Funny. I didn't realize Mr. Tanner brought up Bob Knepper v. Pam Postema
in the first place. Thought it was someone named Jacobs.
>If someone posts something as controversial (not to mention
>idiotic) as what Austin posted in a widely accessed newsgroup,
>someone should challenge the statement.
Why? If a statement is truly idiotic, and is universally thought so,
the challenge is a waste of panting. Further, challenges that have
nothing (yes, nothing) to do with *baseball* are wasting others' time.
You got a problem with what Bob Knepper thinks? Let's hear it, in
some sort of categorical manner. (Actually, I question whether either
Knepper or Postema aren't "old news" at this point, although what I
have read of Postema's book is interesting.)
>There is a school of thought that suggests that silence = consent.
I agree this far.
>Whereas this idea may not apply to everything in life, it certainly
>SHOULD apply to a forum of public discussion...
Sez you.
>If you've been reading r.s.b. lately, you'll find
>that even elementary school children have had access
>to our postings, albeit in an edited form. It's making me
>think a little more carefully about some of the things I post.
That does not come out in what you say down the road, here.
>In conclusion, if someone like Austin wants to post his drivel
>in some obscure newsgroup that I don't read, fine. He's got the
>right to rant, rave, and drool all he wants to in the name
>of free speech. But if he drools in a newsgroup that I read,
>then I will support the right of anyone to provide rebuttal
>to his drooling.
Yo. Even elementary school children have had access to our postings,
albeit in an edited form. You want them to hear you talk like this?
Don't you want people who come to this group to talk baseball to think
you like to do the same? Or do you want them to think you're some
politically correct demagogue who's oh-so sensitive? (Ho-hum.)
Plus, you're here limiting free speech to "some obscure newsgroup that
I don't read." What BS. You got a problem with what Jacobs says, what
Knepper thinks, all you have to do is defeat it with better ideas, more
and better speech. Yours is the easy way out.
As for Knepper: ever notice how sometimes these guys will say just about
any darn thing that pops in their heads when a mike is shoved in front of
them? You know that often the best copy for the news is the one that isn't
pre-prepared. They know Knepper has controversial ideas about women, they
pop some question about Postema. (An interesting related question would
be whether the two ever appeared in the same game. Off the top of my head,
I guess "no." If my guess is right, Knepper popped off about something that
had nothing to do with him -- and Postema gets a book for it, and he doesn't.)
>Now, of course, you don't have to read any of this.
>And if you want to cut down on flames, then DON'T POST FLAMEBAIT!
>(You don't have to respond to flames, either. Saves cyberspace)
Now, why didn't *I* think of that? :-) :-) :-)
RG
"I can play me better than anyone. There's only one of me."
- Barry Bonds, on playing himself in two movies
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <EGGERTJ.93May8143340@moses.ll.mit.edu>, eggertj@moses.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:
....
> And in article <C6Kn27.7FH@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> avr@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (adam.v.reed) writes:
>
> > I've read most of the history books dealing with this period,
> > good and bad, and while it is possible that I missed one or two,
> > none of those I've read documents any razing of mosques. So I
> > think that this remarkable claim requires specific documentation.
>
> Jake disrespectfully demands, and Adam requires specific documentation
> of the razing of mosques in Jerusalem. If either of them had been
> reading t.p.m for a while, they would already have seen such
> documentation. For the forgetful or newcomers, however, here are the
> references.
Thanks for posting the references. I do not normally read t.p.m.,
and I posted my request for references because Jim's article
was cross-posted to soc.culture.jewish. Allegations of Jewish
disrespect for the objects and buildings of other religions are
one of antisemitic stereotypes that permeate western culture, and
rumors of church and Host desacration probably caused more pogroms
than blood libel. The stereotypes that pervade our culture create
cognitive illusions that reify those stereotypes. Therefore any
claim that appears to reify a stereotype should be treated by
decent people with utmost suspicion until and unless documented.
If such a claim is cross-posted to a news group in which it has
not been documented before, such as s.c.j, a reference should be
given the first time it appears. Now that the claim has been
documented, I regard the whole episode as disgusting and
shameful. Especially so because the official who failed to
provide proper temporary facilities for the evicted Jordanians
was probably Jewish, and as a Jew I know that he should have
known better.
Adam_V_Reed@ATT.com
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1993May14.210055.25497@klaava.Helsinki.FI> jliukkon@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Juha-Matti Liukkonen) writes:
>Let me pose a question: how many MS-DOS users are out there who have no
>access to the net, but would probably find this feature useful, too?
>Ie., your suggestion implies that Microsoft is relying on the shareware
>or PD products to fill the gaps on DOS. Or did I misunderstand your
>statement?
Shareware is available from the net, magazines, distributors, clubs,
friends, and bulletin boards. I don't think people have any problems
getting hold of it.
Fill gaps in Dos? There's no need for many people - Dos 5 provides
more services than I need as it is. I just run Windows on top of it.
BTW, my Windows must be an operating system - it provides a Disk
Operating System that Dos can't access. (NFS...) :-)
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| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
I am a new reader of sci.crypt I would like to obtain a copy of a
public domain program that can encrypt files, preferably using DES,
that runs under MS-DOS.
I would also like to obtain a program which will password protect
floppy disks, if this is possible.
Thanks.
David Maddison
Melbourne, Australia
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <Apr.5.16.22.48.1993.11331@pilot.njin.net> gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite) writes:
>
>jayson stark (i think that's him) fits perfectly in this category.
Could be. There is a Jayson Stark that writes weekly for some press syndicate
and also for Baseball America.
>anyone who writes "dean palmer has 2 homers - at this pace, he'll
> have 324 home runs!" should be shot.
>
>if, at the end of april, he has 11, and anyone writes "at this
> pace, he'll have 100+ homers!" they shouldbe shot too.
Stark has done this sort of thing, but he has never been serious about it.
He usually states that this sort of projection is useless at the top of
such columns. I think he did it one season and some manager was "projected"
to be thrown out of 60 games and some hitter could expect to be plunked
150 times.
Stark does some really funny stuff. His weekly baseball reviews are good
collections of strange things that happened during the previous week. He
also regularly prints Kinerisms.
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Lance "Cr2O3.2H2O" Smith | "Moments after being named manager for the
(lsmith@cs.umn.edu) | Oakland A's, Mr Peanut was crushed by a
Special Limited Edition | red headed loner wielding an aluminum bat."
r.s.bb .signature | _Murder at the Mausoleum_
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <blake.70.735413837@nevada.edu> blake@nevada.edu (Rawlin Blake) writes:
>I was hoping that Kent State taught us a lesson.
>
>Apparently not.
>
>Apparently the government will murder anyone they choose to still.
That's right. Despite claims that someone at Kent State fire a shotgun
at the the soldiers, the only projectiles that anyone can prove where
sent in the direction of the soldiers were rocks.
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1993Apr5.234729.100387@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> daz1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DEMOSTHENIS A. ZEPPOS) writes:
>Why don't you look again at Motor Trend's, slalom times, they are 67.9, right
>along with the Integra, and the car does that with small 14 inch tires that
>are all -weather XGTV4, not to mention that the Integra rides alot better than
>a Beretta.
My GS came with XGT V4s and they are NOT all weather tires. I took
out my right front bumper sliding on packed snow (not ice), before I learned
this fact. I immediately bought XGT H4s which are definately all-weather.
A Carrera 4 I walk by everyday has XGT V4s on it even. The Michelin dealer
where I bought my new tires said the V4s were made out of a different
rubber that gets really hard and slick when the weather gets near feezing.
Said he'd only try to sell me those tires during the winter if we were in
Texas and not Colorado.
Thanks,
Eric
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--- -\/\ Not to excercise is not also @spot & @ucsu
--- /_ to be fully human. -Keith Johnsgard
| 7rec.autos |
Bill Clare 726-9419 (clare@ssd.kodak.com) wrote:
: That more or less says it. I flicked the Penguins game on briefly and saw
: Ulf cross-check Valeri in the face. I am wondering if Don Cherry is going to
: go off on this at all in coach's corner.
And that was the ONLY infraction of this type in the game.
Come on! Wake up! Geez He's not the only player who does this
sort of thing. I think we were kind of lucky. The game was not
really all that "chippy" considering the state NJ is in about
now.
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| 10rec.sport.hockey |
A while ago I saw some translucent pads, about 6"x8" or so that
could be plugged into (something) and they would glow. One was red,
another green, another blue. Interresting. I was wondering if anyone
would have a feed on anything of this nature, and of the price.
oh, the pads were rubber-like and were floppy like, about 1cm thick or
so.
Thanks.
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comes to | \ o baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca |
those who | ( ^ ) baden@inqmind.bison.mb.ca |
seek the | /-\ =] Baden de Bari [= |
unknown. | |
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| 12sci.electronics |
So we have this highly Christian religious order that put fire
on their house, killing most of the people inside.
I'm not that annoyed about the adults, they knew supposedly what
they were doing, and it's their own actions.
What I mostly are angry about is the fact that the people inside,
including mothers, let the children suffer and die during awful
conditions.
If this is considered religious following to the end, I'm proud
that I don't follow such fanatical and non-compassionate religions.
You might want to die for whatever purpose, but please spare
the innocent young ones that has nothing to do with this all.
I have a hard time just now understanding that Christianity
knows about the word compassion. Christians, do you think
the actions today would produce a good picture of your
religion?
Kent
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| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993Apr19.160012.24850@sni.ca> dave@snitor.sni.ca (Dave Till) writes:
>
>I don't think it was that obvious at the time that Viola was better.
>Morris and Viola had comparable K/IP ratios in 1991. Viola was coming
>off an injury, whereas Morris was healthy.
At the time I didn't really want the Sox to sign either. I was more
than a little worried about Viola's elbow.
But you *surely* remember my shout of relief when, after a week of
rumors that Morris was coming to the Red Sox, they ended up with Viola
instead.
Now I'm even happier. Viola seems to have rebounded nicely.
>Also, Morris was willing to sign for only two years.
>The Jays don't like to sign pitchers to long-term contracts, which I think
>is a sensible policy.
How long did Viola sign for. Three years? I generally agree with
their policy of avoiding long-term contracts for pitchers. But I
think they enforce it rather too strictly. These days the premier
pitchers all sign three or four year deals. Which leaves the Jays
with Morris and Stewart. If the Jays want to compete for top free
agent pitchers, they will have to accept greater risks.
Any idea what the option year deal is for Morris? Are there any
automatic activation clauses? What is the buyout amount?f
Cheers,
-Valentine
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <C4z6x7.16B@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, dgj2y@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (David Glen Jacobowitz) writes:
> I've been wanting to build a Tesla coil for quite awhile now (
> who doesn't, right? ) and I thought it would be a good intermidiate
> step to build a JAcob's Ladder first.
> Well, I have been looking for a high voltage transformer that
> is reasonable inexpensive ( neon sign transformers cost mucho ).
In the past I've managed to buy used neon sign transformers from sign shops
for about $20. Try calling around.
Warren N. Massey Massey@Travis.LLNL.Gov
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory 7000 East Ave., P.O. Box 808, L-495
Livermore, Calif. 94550 <<<My opinions are mine alone>>> (510)422-1958
| 12sci.electronics |
Bruce Webster writes:
>Indeed, LDS doctrine goes one step further and in some cases
>holds parents responsible for their children's sins if they have
>failed to bring them up properly (cf. D&C 68:25-28; note that this
>passage applies it only to members of the LDS church).
Hi Bruce. How do you reconcile this practice with Ezekiel 18?
Ezekiel 18:20 "The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not
share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the
son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and
the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him."
Is Ezekiel 18 not translated correctly in your eyes perhaps?
Sincerely,
Aaron Cardenas
P.S. I too am bothered to see offensive words being posted on this
newsgroup. Obscenity is out of place for anyone who wants to live by the
Bible (Eph 5:4).
Moderator: I would appreciate your not letting posts with foul language
through, which has happened at least twice lately. Thank you.
[I try to avoid foul language. Bastard is certainly foul language
when shouted at someone as an insult. But in this case it was being
used in its original technical sense. Similarly, hell is an obscenity
in some contexts, but not when referring to the afterlife. It is not
clear to me that bastard is foul language when it's being used in its
proper meaning. One of today's postings quotes Deut 23:2. Am I
to prohibit that? --clh]
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In <C5rusq.M6M@news.cso.uiuc.edu> azoghlin@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Very Old Freshman (VOF)) writes:
+>Critisism is too easy. What solutions do people have that would have been
+>better than what the FBI had been doing for the last few months?
After the seige began:
Surround the place with Razor wire and then let them sit. Do not
have daily press conferences, do your best to keep things out of
the press.
As things get more and more miserable inside, one of two things is
going to happen:
1. People will start coming out.
2. They will commit suicide in mass at some point.
The thing to remember about (2) is that hysterical situations and "assults"
play into the hands of a "leader" who has picked this course. Its
much easier to stampede people into something like suicide if there
is gas coming in and bullets in the air. Let them be hungry and miserable
for longer and longer and it will probably be more effective.
The "possiblity" that they would all kill themselves at some
point would not bother me in the least or alter tactics. If people
are going to take their own lives, the best you can probably do is
prevent yourself from giving them the opportunity or an excuse to
do it.
If the FBI and Attorney General Vampira really were concerned
with sanitation and welfare of the children inside, they would not
have turned the water to the compound off as a "pressure" tactic in
the first place.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
My earlier argument that "Clipper will encourage state and local cops
to commit criminal acts" is largely moot, now that we've learned that
the FBI will perform the actual tap. [It will encourage the *FBI* to
commit (even more) criminal acts, but that's not the point here.]
But this gives another avenue of attack on the Clipper proposal. When
the EFF/ACLU/CPSR FOIA requests are made, they should ask for details
on the bureaucratic and equipment infrastructure that is proposed (or
even already budgeted) for the FBI to service tapping requests -- for now
and the projected future.
From these figures, estimate the number of Clipper-tap requests the FBI
is expecting. Publish this figure. Compare it on a per-capita basis
with the amount of tapping now known or suspected.
Also estimate how expensive it would be for the FBI to install more
Clipper-tapping stations, and how rapidly they could be built and
installed ... ie, get the "plus or minus" epsilon for the near future.
Might be a mite disturbing for J. Q. Public to know these things.
And despite all the technical details [BTW, thanks to those who've been
providing them!], we still don't know
1) how the tapping requests will be transmitted and authenticated (though
it isn't too hard to guess a good scheme).
2) how the results will be securely transmitted (Fed Ex the audio tapes?)
3) how privacy will be re-established when an investigation is complete.
+========================================================================+
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| tolerable: tuinstrd@craft.camp.clarkson.edu |
| |
| "Homo sapiens: planetary cancer?? ... News at six" |
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| 11sci.crypt |
In article <C5sI9G.Hx@dscomsa.desy.de> hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
>
>
>The above conveniently ignores the murder of four BATF agents by the
>Branch Davidians in an unprovoked ambush.
>
>Any government that allows tinpot dictators to set up shop and declare
>a private state has drifted into anarchy. There are laws to control
>the ownership of guns and the BATF had good reason to beleive that
>they were being violated. They set out to obtain a legal warrant and
>attempted to serve it only to be met with gunfire when they rang
>the doorbell.
>
>The paranoid assertion that the BATF fired first in an unprovoked
>assault assumes that the BATF were on a death wish. Had they
>expected the B-D to be anything other than peacefull citizens who
>would accept a search authorized by a court they would have turned up
>in a tank and broken the door down on day one.
So, you approve of the BATF launching a 100-person raid, complete
with flack jackets, men hidden in horse trailers, stun grenades,
semi-auto weapons on peaceful citizens? who would also accept
a search authoried by a court?
There is still no proof that the Branch Davidians had illegal weapons.
Nothing else was in the jurisdiction of the BATF, unless they were
thought to have a still, or be smoking untaxed cigarettes.
The automatic firearms violation is a TAX matter ! You don't serve
no-knock warrants on someone with .50 CAL MGs. It isn't necessary
(they can't flush a machine gun down a toilet, you know), and it isn't
smart (if you are right, you got a good chance of getting blown away.
if you are wrong, you shouldn't have done it.)
>
>The stupidity was the attempt to serve a warant on the place by
>ludicrously underarmed and unprotected police.
The stupidity was indeed related to this. But the stupidity may have been to
attempt to serve the warrant by ludicrously over-armed, over-protected
and over-confident gestapo. Escalation isn't automatically brilliant.
IT WAS A TAX MATTER ! YOU CAN"T FLUSH MGs DOWN THE TOILET !
YOU DON"T NEED NO-KNOCK WARRANTS FOR EVERYTHING.
Actually, IMHO nothing justifies them, but that is another argument .
>
>
>If anyone on the net cares to suggest a sure fire method of bringing
>the murderes of four police officers to justice perhaps we could
>hear it.
>
There wasn't any murder of police officers. There was probable cause
to arrest them for murder perhaps. We US citizens are innocent until proven
guilty.
There also wasn't any killing until the BATF screwed up real bad.
>
>Phill Hallam-Baker
>
Lew
--
Lew Glendenning rlglende@netcom.com
"Perspective is worth 80 IQ points." Niels Bohr (or somebody like that).
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <hess.734959172@swt1>, hess@swt1.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Hauke Hess) writes:
|> Hi,
|>
|> I wonder if it is possible for a parent window to paint over the area of
|> its childs. If it is not, then how could it be possible to implement a
|> rubberband across multiple xwindows to select the objects that are
|> displayed one in each window?
|>
|> Hauke
|>
If you specify the rootwindow when you are creating your GC. You may
use Xlib to draw over multiple windows.
I have an application that does something similar for rubber banding.
curs_move = XCreateFontCursor (disp_data, XC_crosshair);
geom_vals.foreground = blck_pixl ^ grey_dark;
geom_vals.plane_mask = AllPlanes;
geom_vals.line_width = 0;
geom_vals.function = GXxor;
geom_vals.subwindow_mode = IncludeInferiors;
evnt_mask= GCForeground | GCPlaneMask | GCLineWidth | GCFunction
| GCSubwindowMode;
geom_gcon= XCreateGC (disp_data, root_iden, evnt_mask, &geom_vals);
later I can move the rubber band or bands using the following logic
/**********************************************************************/
void Tselect::move_bands (int delt_xloc, int delt_yloc) /****/
stuff deleted ...
XDrawRectangle (disp_data, root_iden, geom_gcon,
sele_pntr->rootx, sele_pntr->rooty,
sele_pntr->xlnth, sele_pntr->ylnth); undraw old one
sele_pntr->papax+= delt_xloc;
sele_pntr->papay+= delt_yloc;
sele_pntr->rootx+= delt_xloc;
sele_pntr->rooty+= delt_yloc;
XDrawRectangle (disp_data, root_iden, geom_gcon,
sele_pntr->rootx, sele_pntr->rooty,
sele_pntr->xlnth, sele_pntr->ylnth); draw new one
more stuff deleted
hope this helps
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dealy@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov | | that's important,it's knowing
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| 5comp.windows.x |
Due to the large amount of request for 3dbench of ET4000/W32,
I finally can get a 3dbench v1.0 from a ftp site.
The 3dbench of ET4000/W32 in my Cardex W32 card with 1MB DRAM
has superscape benchmark of 26.3 frames/sec.
Hope it will satisfy people curiosity of this ET4000/W32 performance.
What other benchmark program result you would want to know? 8-)
Philip Sinn
sinn@carson.u.washington.edu
University of Washington
* It is all my opinions *
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
I have the following items for sale.
Buyer pays the shipping costs.
Hardware is new and unused unless marked otherwise.
All software includes original disks and manuals.
No reasonable offers refused.
Send offers/questions to cpc3@po.cwru.edu
Hardware
---------
Hercules Graphics Card - mono graphics and printer ports
Hercules Color Card - color graphics and printer ports
Teac 1.2MB 5.25" floppy drive - doesn't work, sold as is for reapir or
parts
IBM ASYNC card - serial card for PC/XT/AT machines, comes with support
software
Kraft KC10 joystick - works with PC compatibles and Apple II series (not
Mac)
360K 5.25" floppy disks - over 200 bulk-grade disks
2 floppy disk storage boxes - each holds 60 5.25" disks, one has a lock
on it
Software
---------
Microsoft Macro Assembler 5.0 and 5.1 update - large manual and tutorial
included
Sideways 3.0 - rotates wide spreadsheets 90 degrees to print on 1 page
Games
------
WolfPack - WWII submarine simultaion
Space Station Oblivion - arcade-style game similar to Spectre
Demon Stalkers - dungeon game, like Gauntlet
Zork II, Moonmist, Ballyhoo - Infocom adventure/mystery games
Jack Nicklaus' Unlimited Golf and Course Design - excellent golf game
War In Middle Earth - similar to D&D games, based on Tolkien's "The
Hobbit"
Sargon 4 - excellent chess game, play against someone or against computer
Silent Service II - submarine simulation
---
Charles P. Cox, Jr.
Computer Engineering
Case Western Reserve University
cpc3@po.cwru.edu
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <C6yt9o.Ftt@world.std.com> tti@world.std.com (Joachim Martillo) writes:
>In article <C6yAoD.4C7@cobra.cs.unm.edu> melabdel@cobra.cs.unm.edu (Mohammed Elabdellaoui) writes:
>
>>Muslims helping the Nazis??? Where on earth do you come up with such
>>accuusation?? Do you have proofs?? If not, you should publically apologize
>>for such a statement.
>
>What a dope! There is no value for Mohammed Elabdellaoui to be here
>at a Western University. Third-worldist and Islamic brain-rot has
>made it impossible for him to acquire and analyze facts appropriately.
And is there a reason or value for such a brainless shit for brains asshole
to be haer. You are a self hating bastard. Neither your name nor your
ideas, which I've come across before and thought were too stupid and
uncivlized to respond to, prove your first-worldist claim and civility.
>
>The history of the efforts of the Mufti of Jerusalem to serve the
>Nazis in the South Balkans and set up Muslim SS Divisions is
>well-documented. In general, Nazism and the leader-principle
>resonated well among Muslim peoples. Khomeini's concept of the faqih
>is a recent example of such resonance. In fact, totalitarianism is
>etymologically a reasonable translation Islam.
>
>To be fair, the Mufti did not succeed in getting large numbers of
>Muslims to join the SS. But the rather small Muslim SS unit did
>manage to commit attrocities disproportionate to it size. There were
>also Muslim people who were less than enthusiastic about the attempt
>of Muslim leaders to entice Muslim people to serve the Nazi cause
>actively. And the Turkish government ignored practically all Nazi
>overtures even though an alliance with the Nazis against the Soviet
>government would have made a great deal of tactical sense.
Give me sources to read it or shut up. You think I will take such an
ignorant as yourself on his words??
>
> Last time I heard, the nazis prided themselves in
>>needing no body to carry their politics and ideologies. And if your statment
>>were true, don't you think Israel would of used it to point to what a Muslim
>>neighbor (PALESTINE) could do to them if they allowed it to be? The jewish
>>lobby and power is very strong, and if what you said is true, we would of
>>heard it from them before you could come up with it.
>>And you dare say that you are taking no sides!!
>
>Yes, the typical primitive Muslim psychopathological psychotic
>behavior upon hearing or reading a disagreeable fact -- start whining
>about the Jews. What a jerk.
>
There is nothing primitive about Islam except in your mind. I do read and
live daily with disagreable facts, and I only ask them to prove themselves.
The last time I checked, this was truly a 1st-worldist civilized approach to
facts and figures. I did not whine about the jews, I merely stated a fact
thet is strange to nobody. As far as me being jerk, FUCK YOU. (Sorry to
other people that read this).
>>Mohammed
>
>You should go back to your mindlessly stupid 3rd world country. Your
>brain has no business in a civilized first world country.
I am at home fuck face. my name does not mean I am from somewhere else,
except in your litte manute stupid brain. And while we are at names,
yours does not particularly seem to be 1st-worldist. Ajami?? What's that
? Arabic?? As I said you must be ashamed of what you are. You must
really hate yourself don't you ass-hole??
Mohammed
>
>Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1qnpjuINN8ci@gap.caltech.edu> hal@cco.caltech.edu (Hal Finney) writes:
>brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes:
>
>>Their strategy is a business one rather than legal one. They are
>>pushing to get a standard in place, a secret standard, and if they
>>get it as a standard then they will drive competitors out of the market.
>>It will be legal to sell better, untapable encryption that doesn't have
>>registered keys, but it will be difficult, and thus not a plan for
>>most phone companies.
>
>If Brad's analysis is correct, it may offer an explanation for why the
>encryption algorithm is being kept secret. This will prevent competitors
>from coming out with Clipper-compatible phones which lack the government-
>installed "back door." The strategy Brad describes will only work as long
>as the only way to get compatible phones is to have ones with the government
>chips.
>
>(It would be nice, from the point of view of personal privacy, if Brad
>turns out to be right. As long as people still have the power to provide
>their own encryption in place of or in addition to the Clipper, privacy
>is still possible. But the wording of several passages in the announcement
>makes me doubt whether this will turn out to be true.)
Even if what Brad says turns out to be accurate, you can bet that the
Administration will have made it "very clear" to the vendors that "it
would very much be in their best interests" to institute a "voluntary"
policy of refusing to sell anything but Clinton Cripple equipped equipment
to anyone other than "Authorized government agencies and Law Enforcement",
or individuals and corporations who "have been been determined by the
Administration to have a valid need on a case-by-case basis" for an
effective system.
Note that this is very much like the language used in many gun control
bills/laws the Administration is pushing for, or otherwise supporting.
The logic and actual rationale (as opposed to the excuses that get fed
to the media) is the same in both cases, only the items or technology
in question are different.
I think this is no accident. It comes from the same philosophy that
the government rules/controls the people, not the people controlling
the government, that the unconnected citizens are not sophisticated enough
to know what is best for them, so the government must tell the people
what they need or do not need ... "we know best...". And the idea that
that a commoner can defend himself against government eavesdropping
or unlawful attack is totally unacceptable to people with this outlook.
>
>Hal Finney
Combine this all with pushing for national identity cards with 'smart
chips' to encode anything they please (internal passport) under the
guise of streamlining the State People's Health Care System, and with
(you can be certain) more jewels yet to come, and one sees an extremely
ominous trend. So what if "1984" will be ten years late... it still is
turning out to be an amazingly accurate prophecy... unless a LOT of
people wake up, and in a hurry.
One should ALWAYS have every red warning light and bell and danger flag
come up when the government seeks to set itself apart in regard to
rights, etc. from the unconnected/unprivileged citizen (or should we
now be saying 'subject' instead?)... Why SHOULDN'T the average person
have a good, secure system of data security, not dependent on nebulous
'safeguards' for maintaining that security? Why SHOULDN'T the average
person be able to defend himself from an agency gone rogue? 0I am sure
the Feds could break into any data they really wanted to (but it would
take some WORK), and using the same logic, one should not be allowed to
have a good safe, unless a duplicate of the key(s) or combination are
submitted for 'safekeeping' by the government? I don't really see a
difference, philosophically. Encrypted data sure won't evaporate, not
with such high-tech tools as a TAPE RECORDER...
--
pat@rwing.uucp [Without prejudice UCC 1-207] (Pat Myrto) Seattle, WA
If all else fails, try: ...!uunet!pilchuck!rwing!pat
WISDOM: "Only two things are infinite; the universe and human stupidity,
and I am not sure about the former." - Albert Einstien
| 11sci.crypt |
"cjackson" == Curtis Jackson <cjackson@adobe.com> writes:
cjackson> I am very glad to know that none of you judgemental little shits has
cjackson> ridden/driven when too tired, sleepy, hungover, angry, or distracted
cjackson> in the last 3 years. Why, if you had then you might be just as guilty
Some of us not-so judgmental little shits don't drive/ride when we're
impaired. I stopped doing that sort of thing when a good friend of
mine got killed by a drunk driver who failed to stop for a red and
drove through the side of her volvo in his '72 caddy.
Then again, I suspect most of the responsible adults on the net don't
bother posting in flame wars on rec.moto.
cjackson> "There is no justification for taking away individuals' freedom
cjackson> in the guise of public safety." -- Thomas Jefferson
He also owned slaves, kept some as forced concubines, and had enough
resources to do what he wanted without fear of reprisal. Then again,
he also smoked dope.
--
jet@netcom.com -- J. Eric Townsend -- '92 R100R, DoD# (hafta kill you...)
This is my fun account -- work email goes to jet@nas.nasa.gov
"You got to put down the ducky if you wanna play saxophone."
Skate UNIX or die, boyo.
| 8rec.motorcycles |
ssa@unity.ncsu.edu (S. Alavi) writes:
> I have an 8514/A card, and I am using windows in 1024x768 mode
> (normal 8514/A font, not small). In the 386 enhanced mode
> the DOS window font is too small for my 14" monitor. Is there a
> way to spacify the font size for the DOS window? You'll have to
> excuse me if there is a trivial answer, since I am fairly new to
> MS Windows world.
> Thanks.
> (Please include this message for reference)
> ====== S. Alavi [ssa@unity.ncsu.edu] (919)467-7909 (H) ========
> (919)515-8063 (W)
The control box of the Window itself (upper left corner of the window, single
click, am I being too simplistic?) has a font option. The 8 X 12 is about the
biggest one I can use without the characters turning funky.
Hpoe this helps.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
>
>
>>BEGIN ----------------------- CUT HERE ---------------
>>begin 666 ntreal.bmp
>>M0DTV5P< #8$ H ( , %@" ! @
>>M $ ! @@P![( @ "!A> #!_F #CD ,56# #D. !=>_D
>>M4PA: &4H@P"L,1 $U); &N+L0 ($!@ +4WA !,J.0 B/%H 9TJ3 $KKZP 0
>>M,;, TD4I /ZGB0!)#UH (0A. "6E@ I !@ 4B!I " ! !BBZX #!E1 )BV
>
>Deleted a lot of stuff!!!!!!!
>How do you convert this to a bit map???
You're supposed to delete everything above the "cut here" mark, and
below the lower cut here mark, and uudecode it. but
*I was not able to: unexpected end of file encountered at the last line.
could you please re-post it, or tell be what I'm doing wrong?
thanks,i.a.,
Mickey
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pe-|| || MICHAEL PANAYIOTAKIS: louray@seas.gwu.edu
ace|| || ...!uunet!seas.gwu.edu!louray
|||| \/| *how do make a ms-windows .grp file reflect a HD directory??*
\\\\ | "well I ain't always right, but I've never been wrong.."(gd)
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1qsip1INNnj2@dns1.NMSU.Edu> amolitor@nmsu.edu (Andrew Molitor) writes:
>al@escom.COM (Al Donaldson) writes:
>>amolitor@nmsu.edu (Andrew Molitor) writes:
> This appears to be generic calling upon the name of the anti-christ.
>Just for the hell of it, let's destroy this remark. Let us imagine that
>the executive branch actually could extract keys from the escrow houses
>without anyone knowing, or telling. Now what? Dick has 80 bits of data.
>What the hell's he gonna do with it?
>
> 1) Trot around to the telco and say 'we'd like an unauthorised
>decrypting tap'. Uh huh.
> 2) Break in to watergate and install his own tap (so his people still
>do have to break in, neat, huh?) record some noise, then get the Executive
>Branch Phone Decryption Box (huh? they've got one? Goodness, wait 'til the
>washington post gets hold of this) and decrypt the noise.
> 3) More likely, stare at the key, and say 'Oh, hell it's not
>worth all this bloody hassle'
No, he gives the keys to the FBI (who may then give them to the local police
on request) who then simply put some alagator clips on your phone junction
box and conduct an illegal tap. They then decrypt when they recover the tape.
Its just doing what the government does best: breaking the law.
Bill Smythe
| 11sci.crypt |
Phil Hunt (phil@howtek.MV.COM) wrote:
> I'm kind of new at the pc stuff. My machine has 4 serial ports. Com 1 and3
> and 2 &4 share same IRQs. You mean I can't plug a mouse into Com1 and a modem
> into com3 and expect both to work?
No, but some OS's ( COHERENT , etc ) are able to drive one of the ports in
polled mode without using the IRQ. In your example, after accessing the
modem, the mouse won't work until you reboot, because the IRQ is used by
the modem.
> If Answer is NO, should I change IRQ's for com ports to be different? And,
> does it really matter which IRQ I set the ports too?
Yes, you can change the IRQ's for com3/4, but it depends on your other
hardware. com1 uses IRQ4, com2 IRQ3. If you have only one printerport
( IRQ7 ), you can change com3 to IRQ5 ( normally 2nd printer ). For com4,
you can assign IRQ2, if its free. As far as I know, no other IRQ can be
used until your I/O-card is 16bit and caould access IRQ's > 8.
Michael
--
* michael@jester.gun.de * Michael Gerhards * Preussenstrasse 59 *
* Germany 4040 Neuss * Voice: 49 2131 82238 *
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
As nobody in the food industry has even bothered to address my previous
question "WHY DO YOU NEED TO PUT MSG IN ALMOST EVERY FOOD?" I must assume
that my wife's answer is closer to the truth than I hoped it was.
She believes that MSG is added to food to cause people to eat more of it
and not quit when they shoud be sated. To put it a different way, she
believes that for some people MSG causes them to act toward food like an addict.
(Eat all the chips, chow down on several packages of noodle soup .... you get the
idea! } IF she is right, then the moral and ethical standards of the
food, chemical and regulatory groups need to be addressed!!! Can MSG
be considered a conditioning substance (not addictive but sort of habit
forming) ?
This brings up a side question of mine. I have noticed that cats (my
children's and my parent's) seem to fixate on a particular brand of pet
food. The cat will eat any product within one brand and not any other
brand. I have wondered if this is not a case of preference, but, some
sort of chemical training or addiction. My questions, for the net, are:
Does the FDA regulate the contents of pet food? Is it allowed for pet
food to contain addictive or conditioning substances? Is MSG put in
pet food?
-----------------------------------
I speak for myself and not Motorola
-----------------------------------
--
Walter Lundby
| 13sci.med |
In article <1993Apr16.194708.13273@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
jaj@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>What all you turkey pro-pistol and automatic weapons fanatics don't
>seem to realize is that the rest of us *laugh* at you.
So what. We think you're pretty hilarious too.
I love how you Brit's kiss royal arse. That you're willing to throw
out freedom-of-speech for the sake of protecting the reputation of the
royal sluts.
That the British government advertised in American newspapers "Send A Gun
to Defend a British Home -- British civilians, faced with threat of
invasion, desperately need arms for the defense of their homes." during
WWII. [American Rifleman November, 1940]
That The Obscene Publications Act and the Misuse of Drugs Act have been
used as justification for the police to seize masterpieces such as William
S. Burrough's "Junky", Hunter Thompson's "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas",
and Tom Wolfe's "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test". British courts have
never recognized the right to assemble or to demonstrate.
That evidence obtained form coerced confessions is allowed in a trial.
That only serious felonies warrant a trial by jury.
That suspected terrorists must prove their innocence, instead of the
government having to prove their guilt.
That the secretary of state may issue an "exclusionary order" which
bars someone from ever entering a particular part of the United Kingdom,
such as Northern Ireland or Wales.
That the BBC banned Paul McCartney's "Give Ireland Back to the Irish"
as well as John Lennon's "Give Peace a Chance" during the Gulf War.
Yes, England is very very funny. And very pathetic.
>I knew somebody else who went to one of your "Gun-mart" superstore
>places, just so he could experience the sight of people putting guns
>and ammo into shopping carts! I didn't believe it myself until I
>drove by one in Vegas last year!!!
So what. Laughter is a way of dealing with things we find uncomfortable.
I thought the "Las Vegas Show Girl" ads on Las Vegas street corners were
pretty funny.
Yes indeed, there are many strange and wonderous things in this country.
I wouldn't have it any other way.
>Now that I live in Britain, I can see how the rest of the civilized world
>perceives you gun-nut morons. The BBC recently referred to the American
>penchant for pistols, automatic weapons,etc. very appropriately - it was
>called a "national eccentricity."
I don't disagree with that, I don't think it's bad either.
>The only problem is that Canada, I hear, is suffering from your national
>eccentricity, in that easy to purchase weapons are being smuggled cross the
>border.
So what. If they didn't come from here they would come from elsewhere
disguised as cocaine.
>Anyway, all you gun nut Rush Limbaugh fans, please *keep* up your diatribes
>against Brady and other evil "Liberal media" plots - you 're so damn funny!
>You provide endless amounts of entertainment in your arguments and examples
>of why someone should be allowed to carry a piece! Keep us all chuckling!
You can laugh all you want, for us it's a matter of life or death.
I don't find that funny in the least.
As for England:
"As our allies become more open, Britain grow yet more secretive and
censorious. Perhaps the real British vice is passivity, a willingness
to tolerate constraints which others would find unbearble." [in "Britain,
An Unfree Country" by Terrence DeQuesne and Edward Goodman, pp 33.]
--
Larry Cipriani -- l.v.cipriani@att.com
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In <1993Apr17.170907.25718@samba.oit.unc.edu> naoumov@physics.unc.edu (Sergei Naoumov) writes:
>Hey guys!
>I work on many stations and would like this name and current logname
>to be in a title of Xterm when it's open and a machine name only
>when it's closed. In other words, I want $HOST and $LOGNAME to appear
>as a title of opened XTerm and $HOST when XTerm is closed.
>How can I do it?
>Thnsks in advance,
> Serge
> serge@gluttony.astro.unc.edu
Almost all window managers (twm, mwm, olwm and their derivates) support
escape sequences for it. For your purpose put following into your
.login (if you're using csh or tcsh), for sh you have to modify it.
if ( "$term" == "xterm" ) then
echo "^[]2;${LOGNAME}@${HOST}^G^[]1;${HOST}^G"
endif
Note, ^[ stands for <Esc>, in vi you can enter it by pressing
Ctrl-V and the <Esc>. Same for ^G, it means Ctrl-G. In vi:
press Ctrl-V and then Ctrl-G.
The first sequence puts the string into the title bar the second
in the icon.
BTW, you can also put the current working directory in the
title bar if you make an alias for cd:
alias cd 'cd \!* ; echo "^[]2;${LOGNAME}@${HOST}: ${cwd}^G"'
greetings,
Thomas
--
Thomas Wolfram, thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de
EANTC, TU Berlin, wolf@prz.tu-berlin.de, +49 030 31421294
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1qjahh$mrs@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>In article <pww-140493214334@spac-at1-59.rice.edu> pww@spacsun.rice.edu (Peter Walker) writes:
>#In article <1qie61$fkt@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank
>#O'Dwyer) wrote:
>#> Objective morality is morality built from objective values.
>#But where do those objective values come from? How can we measure them?
>#What mediated thair interaction with the real world, a moralon? Or a scalar
>#valuino field?
>Science ("the real world") has its basis in values, not the other way round,
>as you would wish it. If there is no such thing as objective value, then
>science can not objectively be said to be more useful than a kick in the head.
>Simple theories with accurate predictions could not objectively be said
>to be more useful than a set of tarot cards. You like those conclusions?
>I don't.
I think that you are changing the meaning of "values" here. Perhaps
it is time to backtrack and take a look at the word.
value n. 1. A fair equivalent or return for something, such as goods
or service. 2. Monetary or material worth. 3. Worth as measured in
usefulness or importance; merit. 4. A principle, standard, or quality
considered inherently worthwhile or desirable. 5. Precise meaning, as
of a word. 6. An assigned or calculated numerical quantity. 7. Mus.
The relative duratation of a tone or rest. 8. The relative darkness or
lightness of a color. 9. The distinctive quality of a speech or speech
sound.
In context of a moral system, definition four seems to fit best. In terms
of scientific usage, definitions six or eight might apply. Note that
these definitions do not mean the same thing.
In my mind, to say that science has its basis in values is a bit of a
reach. Science has its basis in observable fact. Even the usages of the
word "value" above do not denote observable fact, but rather a standard
of measurement. I would conclude that science does not have its
basis in values, and so your statement above fails. In fact, if one
concludes that a scientific set of measurements (values) are based on
systems derived from observation, then it must follow that in a
scientific context, there is no such thing as there is no such thing as
"objective values."
Back to the present. This has nothing to do with a moral system anyhow.
Just because the word "values" is used in both contexts does not mean
that there is a relationship between the two contexts.
If one is to argue for objective values (in a moral sense) then one must
first start by demonstrating that morality itself is objective. Considering
the meaning of the word "objective" I doubt that this will ever happen.
So, back to the original question:
And objective morality is.....?
If you can provide an objective foundation for "morality" then that will
be a good beginning.
>--
>Frank O'Dwyer 'I'm not hatching That'
>odwyer@sse.ie from "Hens", by Evelyn Conlon
eric
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993May24.165636.29928@cirrus.com> chrism@cirrus.com (Chris Metcalfe) writes:
>In article <C7FpAL.Eu9@world.std.com> tti@world.std.com (Joachim Martillo) writes:
>
>>To be fair, traditional Jewish and Christian thinking is actually
>>quite similar to Islamic thinking on these issues. Modern civilized
>>Westerners should strive for the complete neutralization of all
>>Abrahamic relition.
>>
>>Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami
>
>Sieg Heil!
Heil Ajami!, or do you prefer
Heil Martillo! or
Heil Santos! or
Heil Carlo! or
Heil Joachim!<- This I would suggest against, it sounds too informal, mein
fuhrer!
Manoj
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
rmalayte@grumpy.helios.nd.edu (ryan malayter) writes:
>Article 31 of alt.graphics:
>Newsgroups: alt.graphics
>Path: news.nd.edu!moliere!rmalayte
>From: rmalayte@moliere.helios.nd.edu (ryan malayter)
>Subject: GeoSphere images via ftp?
>Message-ID: <1993Apr26.213648.26856@news.nd.edu>
>Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System)
>Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
>Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 21:36:48 GMT
>Does anyone know if a digitized version of the GeoSphere image is
>available via ftp? For those of you who don't know, it is a composite
>photograph of the entire earth, with cloudcover removed. I just think
>it's really cool. It was created with government funds and sattelites
>as a research project, so I would assume it's in the public domain.
This image is copyrighted. Early in another news group it was being
used as a texture map in a planet orbiting simulation. That program
was being freely distributed but the texture map picture for the
earth had to be pulled because of copyright infringement issues.
mp....
--
Michael Prevost
Sterling Software
moffett Field Ca.
prevost@eos.arc.nasa.gov
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <C5yqDE.Cq0@ecf.toronto.edu> gladman@ecf.toronto.edu (GLADMAN AVIV) writes:
>That's why you
>don't find blue LEDs or, for that matter, some other colour of LEDs. That
>is not to say that blue LEDs can't be found. I've seen 'blue' LEDs sold,
>but they were just your typical visible light LED in a blue plastic covering.
No. The blue LEDs sold down the street are in milky-white plastic.
And, fyi, putting a filter on a "typical visible light LED" (presumably meaning
a non-blue one) won't produce blue light. A filter can only block light, it
can't generate wavelengths that aren't there to start with.
--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Systems, San Diego CA
Internet: jeh@cmkrnl.com Uucp: uunet!cmkrnl!jeh CIS: 74140,2055
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <May.9.05.42.00.1993.27592@athos.rutgers.edu> mdw33310@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael D. Walker) writes:
>easteee@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>> I have a question about Satan. I was taught a long time ago
>>that Satan was really an angel of God and was kicked out of heaven
>>because he challenged God's authority. The problem is, I cannot
>>find this in the Bible. Is it in the Bible? If not, where did it
>>originate?
> The quick answer: Revelation 12:7-9
And as someone mentioned earlier, from the apocryphal Book of Enoch,
satan was apparently kicked out for three times asserting his own will,
"I will". Hmmm...pro-choice looks kinda creepy here.
Then there are the references around the Bible about taking a third
of the angels, getting a third of the heavens or something.
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <C5sDyp.C6E@bony1.bony.com>, billg@bony1.bony.com (Bill Gripp) writes:
> In article <C5rLnE.4pC@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> pmy@vivaldi.acc.Virginia.EDU (Pete Yadlowsky) writes:
>
>>Arms? Automatic weapons, grenades, rocket launchers? The sorts of things
>>no family should be without, I guess. Anyway, I've often wondered what
>>business followers of Christ would have with weapons. It's hard to imagine a
>>pistol-packin' Jesus, though I suppose a pump-action shotgun would have
>>made clearing the temple a hell of a lot easier.
>
> FYI, these people were not "followers of Christ". David Koresh was
> their messiah.
After all, if the FBI had thought Koresh was a true prophet, wouldn't
they have burned the building the first day of the siege?
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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Joe Gaut | In the super-state, it really does not
<f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> | matter at all what actually happened.
Red-neck and proud of it. | Truth is what the government chooses to
| tell you. Justice is what it wants to happen.
Jim Garrison, New Orleans, La.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In <1993Apr19.221331.26203@pony.Ingres.COM>, garrett@Ingres.COM sez:
[re Michael Friedman and Phil Ronzone]
>
>O.K. So far you guys have called me:
>1) An ignorant asshole
>2) Ignorant slut
>3) Dumb as a bag of hammers
>4) Dumb shit
> Am I missing any?
Try asking Michael whether he still thinks the M-16 "is one of the
most beautiful machines around." Or ask Phil if he still claims that
the Due Process and Equal Protection clauses of the 14th amendment
apply to the federal government. The responses should be as
enlightening as the recent name-calling, and about as relevant.
--
They told me you had gone totally insane, and that your methods were unsound.
Mark Eckenwiler eck@panix.com ...!cmcl2!panix!eck
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <MATT.93Apr5120453@physics2.berkeley.edu>, matt@physics2.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern) writes:
> In article <1993Apr5.140122.8232@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer) writes:
>
>> Is Chomsky thus equivacating the genocide in Cambodia with the invasion
>> and occupation of E. Timor?
>
> I think the word you have in mind is "equating". And no, Noam Chomsky
> is considerably too intelligent to think that history ever repeats
> itself exactly. He has said, however (repeatedly), that the two acts
> were of comparable brutality, and should receive comparable
> condemnation. There's a good case to be made that he's right; what's
> happened (and is happening) in East Timor is considerably worse than
> most Americans realize. This is in part because there are very few
> stories about East Timor in the mainstream press.
Ok, as far as that goes I agree. The situatio in E. Timor does deserve
the attention that Bosnia, Angola, etc. get. But...I also think that the
"press" can't be forced to print articles, air shows about it, etc.
The religious right got tired of the mainstream media and started
buying their own stations/papers. The left should do the same thing instead of
relying on NPR and public stations.
>> If so, how does he explain (away) the difference between an intended
>> goal of genocide (Cambodia) and a brutal occupation?
>
> I don't think that anyone can ever say for sure what the "intended
> goal" of the Khmer Rouge was. What we can do, though, is look at
> their actions---and those actions have been quite horrible, both those
> of the Khmer Rouge and of the Indonesian occupiers. I don't think
> that the word "genocide" is too strong to apply to either situation.
I wouldn't venture that far (to say the situation in E. Timor is
genocide). The Indonesians seem perfectly willing to not kill anyone who
doesn't get in their way: which is something the Khmer Rouge didn't do.
Virtually everyone not in the Khmer Rouge suffered the "killing fields".
(Once again, not to downplay the violence in Timor....)
>> If so, why isn't he in Australia chanting "no blood for oil"?
>
> Probably because he thinks that this form of protest would be silly
> and ineffective? Or is that explanation too obvious?
I don't agree. Right now Australia is the most effective lever against
Indonesia. They are negotiating for oil drilling rights off Timor, and
stopping that process would go a long way towards making Indonesia realize that
people don't want to see the situation swept under the rug.
Brett
________________________________________________________________________________
"There's nothing so passionate as a vested interest disguised as an
intellectual conviction." Sean O'Casey in _The White Plague_ by Frank Herbert.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Neal Patrick Howland) writes:
>
>From what I understand about radar dectectors all they are is a passive
>device much like the radio in your car. They work as an antenna picking
>up that radar signals that the radar gun sends out. Therefore there would
>be no way of detecting a radar detector any more than there would be of
>detecting whether some one had a radio in their car.
>
Unfortunately, you're wrong on both counts. The most common method of
implementing a tunable receiver is to have a local oscillator. The
local oscillator's frequency can be radiated out of the receiver via
the antenna unless the circuit is designed and constructed with great
care.
For a reference on detecting radios, get the paperback book _Spy Catcher_.
The author discovered how to detect radio receivers from their local
oscillator emissions back in the *1950s* while he worked for British
Intelligence.
-Greg
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Fortune Cookie: Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives.
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| 12sci.electronics |
In article <C5sv88.HJy@news.cso.uiuc.edu> irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:
>In article <1r1j3n$4t@transfer.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
>>In article <1r19tp$5em@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, mfrhein@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Frederick Rhein) writes:
>>
>>> >napalm, then let the wood stove inside ignite it.
>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> As someone else has pointed out, why would the stove be in use on a warm day
>>> in Texas.
>>
>>Do YOU eat all your food cold?
>
>Ever hear of electric ovens or microwaves? Very popular.
>Electric stoves outside metro-areas especially.
Not when the power has been cut off for weeks on end. Any generators are
no doubt out of fuel, too. So all they would have is wood stoves and
kerosene lanters (maybe). It is alleged that the tanks pushing in the
walls knocked over the lanters, starting the fire. Remember, the FBI
had bugs which they even used (illegally) to eavesdrop on private
conversations with the lawyers. If a suicide order were given they
WOULD HAVE KNOWN IT IN TIME. If the Feds had been concerned they would
have had emergency equipment ready. Not an hour or so later, not
leaving the water THEY TURNED OFF, off. They could have turned it back
on. They just didn't wanna. Scores to settle...
--
pat@rwing.uucp [Without prejudice UCC 1-207] (Pat Myrto) Seattle, WA
If all else fails, try: ...!uunet!pilchuck!rwing!pat
WISDOM: "Only two things are infinite; the universe and human stupidity,
and I am not sure about the former." - Albert Einstien
| 16talk.politics.guns |
I just signed up for this group, so I hope I'm not missing something
in a FAQ, but I'm looking for a good introduction to the mathematics
of encryption -- particularly DES and Public-Key, though others would
be interesting also. Probably a good library could help me out, but I
thought it might be even easier if I could obtain a nice article
entirely electronically (besides, I have this rather *rational* phobia
of libraries for reasons stemming from this "dissertation" thing
hanging over my head :-)).
I have a basic knowledge of mathematics... number-theory is a
bit unfamiliar to me, but I've had a few graduate-level math courses
in some other areas; anyway, I'm not a complete novice to the field.
So probably something aimed at a basic graduate introductory level
would be about right. Something, anyway, which is more specific than
"a really big prime number is generated to code the message".
If someone knows of a good text available by ftp (or gopher),
or would like to email me one... please let me know. I'll probably keep
reading this group; but it would be nice if you would email me at the
same time, so I don't miss it.
Thanx, Lulu...
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| 11sci.crypt |
I have posted a DOS MPEG decoder/player to alt.binaries.pictures.utilities.
Here is a short description and some technical information, taken from the
accompanying documentation:
DMPEG V1.0
Public Domain MPEG decoder
by Stefan Eckart
0. Features
===========
DMPEG/DMPLAY is another MPEG decoder/player for the PC:
- decodes (nearly) the full MPEG video standard
(I,P,B frames, frame size up to at least 352x240 supported)
- saves decoded sequence in 8 or 24bit raw file for later display
- optional on-screen display during decoding (requires VGA)
- several dithering options: ordered dither, Floyd-Steinberg, grayscale
- color-space selection
- runs under DOS, 640KB RAM, no MS-Windows required
- very compact (small code / small data models, 16 bit arithmetic)
- real time display of the raw file by a separate player for
VGA and many Super-VGAs
...
4. Technical information
========================
The player is a rather straightforward implementation of the MPEG spec [1].
The IDCT is based on the Chen-Wang 13 multiplication algorithm [2]
(not quite the optimum, I know). Blocks with not more than eight non-zero
coefficients use a non-separated direct multiply-accumulate 2D-IDCT
(sounds great, doesn't it?), which turned out to be faster than a 'fast'
algorithm in this (quite common) case. Dithering is pretty standard. Main
difference to the Berkeley decoder (except for the fewer number of supported
algorithms) is the use of 256 instead of 128 colors, the (default) option to
use a restricted color-space and the implementation of a color saturation
dominant ordered dither. This leads to a significantly superior quality of
the dithered image (I claim, judge yourself).
Restricted color-space means that the U and V components are clipped to
+/-0.25 (instead of +/-0.5) and the display color-space points are distributed
over this restricted space. Since the distance between color-space points
is thus reduced by a factor of two, the color resolution is doubled at the
expense of not being able to represent fully saturated colors.
Saturation dominant ordered dither is a method by which a color, lying
somewhere between the points of the display color space, is approximated
by primarily alternating between two points of constant hue instead of
constant saturation. This yields subjectivly better quality due to the
lower sensitivity of the human viewing system to saturation changes than
to hue changes (the same reasoning as used by the PAL TV standard to improve
on NTSC). The improvement is particularly visible in dark brown or redish
areas.
...
--
Stefan Eckart, stefan@lis.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de
| 1comp.graphics |
ISSCCK@BYUVM.BITNET (Casper C. Knies) writes:
>
> Gedaliah Friedenberg (friedenb@maple.egr.msu.edu) writes:
>
> #In article <1qvfik$6rf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
> #(John W. Redelfs) writes:
> #|>
> #|> Now that Big Brother has rubbed out one minority religion in Waco, who
> #|> is next? The Mormons or Jews?
> #
> #Give me a break. If the Mormons fortified Utah and armed it to the teeth,
> #and were involved in illegal activity, then they deserve whatever they get.
> # ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
> #You are making a ludicrous suggestion.
>
> As a Latter-day Saint, I found John's statement *not at all* ludicrous...
And as an agnostic who's slightly aware of the Mormon Wars that Casper
describes, I'd side with him on this. Not that I support the Koreshians, nor
do I support the Mormons, but in a nasty sense, the major difference is
this; in 1857, the Mormons kicked the U.S. Army's ass. In 1993, the
Koreshians died in an inferno. Chances are, if things had turned out a
little differently, we might have Koreshians posting to the Net a hundred
years from now talking about some future, analogous event.
Brian "Rev. P-K" Siano revpk@cellar.org
"Well, I'll know right away by the look in her eyes
she's lost all illusions and she's worldly wise, and I know
if I give her a listen, she's what I've been missing, what I've been missing
I'll be lost in love and havin' some fun with my cynical girl
Who's got no use for the real world, I'm looking for a Cynical Girl"
--- Marshall Crenshaw, "Cynical Girl"
| 18talk.politics.misc |
hi all, Ive applied for the class of 93 at quite a number of schools (20)
and have gotten 13 rejects, 4 interviews and 3 no responses.
Any one know when the heck these people send out their acceptance letters?
According to the med school admissions book theyre supposed to send out
the number of their class in acceptances by mid March. Whats going on... I
am losing my sanity checking my mailbox every day.
Also does anyone have some useful alternatives in case i dont get in, i
kind of looked into Chiropractic and Podiatry but they really dont
interest me. Thanks.
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| 0 0 |-------\== The Wonderful, Wonderful Cat!
\==@==/\ ____\ | ===============================
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| 13sci.med |
In the mist of the Rangers soap box (i.e. Captain neMesis-ier/ex-coach
Roger Nebula bad blood bath) and with high hopes turned to new coach
Mr. Klean (Commissar Keenan)... I would like to know what procedures
hockey teams use to select their captains (including A's). Are they
selected by the coaching staff, do the players vote for a captain, or
are they appointed by management?
And, while we are on the subject, has a captain ever been traded,
resigned, or been striped of his title during the season? Any other
team captain trivia would be appreciated.
-- Mike
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1rguqoINNrc@edna.cc.swin.edu.au> alan@saturn.cs.swin.OZ.AU (Alan Christiansen) writes:
>I believe that the algorithms you can get that will only draw convex
>polygons can be much more efficient than those that can draw
>concave / self intersecting polygons.
>This efficiency can largely be attributed to the fact that
>simple convex polygons only have a left and a right edge on each scan line.
>Complex (figure 8 type polygons) can be a bit trickier.
It is true the convex algorithm is faster than a general concave/multi outline
algorithm, but not tremendously faster. I spent awhile implementing and
optimizing both flavors, and the convex turned out about 10% faster. This is
all C (on HP PA-RISC the compiler got the inner loop [shooting the span] as
fast as possible, as far as I could tell). For any sort of game the database
to render is known ahead of time, and can be made all convex. Definitely the
way to go.
p.s. sorry but my code CANNOT be made public domain....
jesse
--
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| 1comp.graphics |
In article <BD.93Apr22083220@bd.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>Assuming for the moment that the FBI believed in the bible and
>were afraid of the seven seals, then they would also know
>that God is the one who has to open the seals, not some
>little prophet like Koresh.
Fear doesn't usually follow reason. By the way, why do you call
Koresh "prophet"? Do you also believe in him? Personally, I think
he's just some wierdo.
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| David Charlap | "Apple II forever" - Steve Wozniak |
| dic5340@hertz.njit.edu | "I drank what?" - Socrates |
+------------------------+------------------------------------+
| 19talk.religion.misc |
OK, with all the discussion about observed playback speeds with QuickTime,
the effects of scaling and so on, I thought I'd do some more tests.
First of all, I felt that my original speed test was perhaps less than
realistic. The movie I had been using only had 18 frames in it (it was a
version of the very first movie I created with the Compact Video compressor).
I decided something a little longer would give closer to real-world results
(for better or for worse).
I pulled out a copy of "2001: A Space Odyssey" that I had recorded off TV
a while back. About fifteen minutes into the movie, there's a sequence where
the Earth shuttle is approaching the space station. Specifically, I digitized
a portion of about 30 seconds' duration, zooming in on the rotating space
station. I figured this would give a reasonable amount of movement between
frames. To increase the differences between frames, I digitized it at only
5 frames per second, to give a total of 171 frames.
I captured the raw footage at a resolution of 384*288 pixels with the Spigot
card in my Centris 650 (quarter-size resolution from a PAL source). I then
imported it into Premiere and put it through the Compact Video compressor,
keeping the 5 fps frame rate. I created two versions of the movie: one scaled
to 320*240 resolution, the other at 160*120 resolution. I used the default
"2.00" quality setting in Premiere 2.0.1, and specified a key frame every ten
frames.
I then ran the 320*240 movie through the same "Raw Speed Test" program I used
for the results I'd been reporting earlier.
Result: a playback rate of over 45 frames per second.
That's right, I was getting a much higher result than with that first short
test movie. Just for fun, I copied the 320*240 movie to my external hard
disk (a Quantum LP105S), and ran it from there. This time the playback rate
was only about 35 frames per second. Obviously the 230MB internal hard disk
(also a Quantum) is a significant contributor to the speed of playback.
I modified my speed test program to allow the specification of optional
scaling factors, and tried playing back the 160*120 movie scaled to 320*240
size. This time the playback speed was over 60 fps. Clearly, the poster who
observed poor performance on scaled playback was seeing QuickTime 1.0 in
action, not 1.5. I'd try my tests with QuickTime 1.0, but I don't think it's
entirely compatible with my Centris and System 7.1...
Unscaled, the playback rate for the 160*120 movie was over 100 fps.
The other thing I tried was saving versions of the 320*240 movie with
"preferred" playback rates greater than 1.0, and seeing how well they played
from within MoviePlayer (ie with QuickTime's normal synchronized playback).
A preferred rate of 9.0 (=> 45 fps) didn't work too well: the playback was
very jerky. Compare this with the raw speed test, which achieved 45 fps with
ease. I can't believe that QuickTime's synchronization code would add this
much overhead: I think the slowdown was coming from the Mac system's task
switching.
A preferred rate of 7.0 (=> 35 fps) seemed to work fine: I couldn't see
any evidence of stutter. At 8.0 (=> 40 fps) I *think* I could see slight
stutter, but with four key frames every second, it was hard to tell.
I guess I could try recreating the movies with a longer interval between the
key frames, to make the stutter more noticeable. Of course, this will also
improve the compression slightly, which should speed up the playback performance
even more...
Lawrence D'Oliveiro fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand 37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
| 1comp.graphics |
Hello everybody,
I hope that I insert the right Options, so that my question is only
distributed through out Germany, because my question is more or less
country dependend.
Now the question:
Is there anybody who can tell my if (and of course where) there is
a ftp-site/archie (or whatever) where DIN fonts for X are available.
I am looking for fonts holding the specification:
DIN 16
DIN 6776
DIN V 40950
Thanks in advance
Juergen Schietke
Research Insitute for Discrete Mathematics
University of Bonn
Nassestr. 2
5300 Bonn 1 (Germany)
Tel: +49 0228 738786
E-Mail: schietke@or.uni-bonn.de
| 5comp.windows.x |
I still think a major point is being missed... If you are worried about
software pirates, NOTHING will stop them. These are people who crack
software (mostly games, but so what) daily for fun. They can usually find
a crack around anything, especially if the manufacturer leaves a hole for such a thing.
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| 12sci.electronics |
I have a question about accessing certain addresses on a chip,
particulary a 27C512 EPROM. Although I don't know that much about it, as I
understand it, there's a pin on the chip that, when voltage is applied, kicks
up the address. The question is how do you determine how many bytes the
address is incremented by?? For example, if I have code I want to be
accessed at $2000 and also at say $4000 how do I move the address pointer to
those positions?? Thanks for any info...
%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%
% Sean Kelly - Sysop Amizon BBS (312)594-1146 %
% Always looking for classic video games for the following systems: %
% %
% Atari 2600-Atari 5200-ColecoVision-Atari 5200-Intellivision-Vectrex %
%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%
| 12sci.electronics |
Is there a QIC-80 format tape drive that comes
with an EISA controller ?
Colorado's 250 only has ISA and MCA controllers.
Thanks. e-mail please.
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marka@gcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com |
The Lost Los Angelino |
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
>> Look, if you can figure out a reliable means of keeping guns away from
>> bad people, while not interfering with good people, I think we'd all be
>> for it. The problem is, the methods we're using now don't do the trick.
> Don't manufacture them. Don't sell them. Don't import them.
>
> Some guns will get through, but far fewer, and far less people will
> die because of them. Hunting weapons could be allowed, of course, as
> long as they are big, and bulky, and require reloading after a few
> shots (how many times can you shoot at the same animal, anyways One
> assumes they are moving!)
A better solution:
If the 'bad' people can't be trusted with guns, then lock them or knock
them off. Stop punishing good people.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <16APR199314443969@reg.triumf.ca> lange@reg.triumf.ca (THREADING THE CANADIAN TAPESTRY) writes:
>Way back in the early years (~50's) it took 8 wins to garner the Stanley Cup.
>Soooooo, a couple of local fish mongers (local to the Joe Louis Arena, that is)
>started the tradition of throwing an octopi onto the ice with every win. After
>each victory, one leg would be severed before the octopus found its way to the
>ice. (They are dead by the way.) It was a brilliant marketing strategy to
>shore up the demand for one of their least popular products.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>J. Lange
>
Local to the Joe Louis Arena? You mean local to Olympia Stadium, where
Red Wings games were played until fairly recently (early 80s comes to
mind). As far as I know, the rest of the post is basically correct. If
what you meant by local was simply Detroit and I'm being incredibly
picky, okay, sorry about that.
--
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Phone: (312) 329-3684 Internet: nichols@spss.com Fax: (312) 329-3657
*******************************************************************************
Any correlation between my views and those of SPSS is strictly due to chance.
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Jesus:
> "This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but
> men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds
> are evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will
> not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be
> exposed."
Kent Sandvik says:
>It seems we are dealing with a black-and-white interpretation.
>Brian, are you subtly accusing me of evil things because I never
>saw the light? However, this is even more confusing because
>I even admit that I don't like the situation where I'm not
>informed.
Black and white. A spade is a spade. There is no hidden
agenda behind this, so stop trying to look for one. It is an
easy and as straight forward as it reads.
Kent, I am not accusing you of evil things. Jesus is accusing you.
And it is not only you that He is accusing. He is accusing everyone.
Me, you and everyone in the world is guilty. Whether one
sees the light or does not seen the light has nothing to do with
whether we do evil things. We do them regardless.
Jesus uses the word "men". I am included. Jesus is not soloing you out.
Jesus is making a general statement about out the sad state of man.
Christians are not immuned from doing evil things. A Christian
is just a person in whom the Holy Spirit indwells. A Christian
can see the evil he is doing--because his evil has been brought
out into the light. Jesus is not saying that just because evil has been
exposed, that the Christian will stop doing evil. If you haven't
seen Jesus's light, your evil deeds simply haven't been
exposed to the His light. You may shed some light on your
own. Your human spirit shines at perhaps 1 candela. But the
Holy Spirit shines at a Megacandela. The Holy Spirit can
shine light into places inside us where we didn't even know
existed.
So do you see Jesus's point? Christians are not perfect. Nonchristians
are not perfect. Nonchristians do not want to come into the
Light of Jesus because they will see all the problems in their lives,
and they will not like the sight. It is an ugly thing to see how far
we have fallen from Jesus's perspective. Do you think you want to
know how really ignorant you are? Do you think Brian Kendig wants
to know? Do you think I want to know? Ego verses the truth,
which do you choose?
>I'm watching the news about a man who saw the light, and made
>sure that the 19 children burned to death as part of his insight
>into the light. I don't think the world is that simple. And if
>you act in such ways when you are enlighted, then I'm a happy
>man and I pray I will never receive such 'light'.
And I watched Koresh too, an imposter who thought he saw the light,
who made sure that the 19 children burned to death, sadly, as part
of his delusion. It is even sadder that the people who
died with him chose to die with them, and that ignorance was
their downfall to death.
And Kent, don't you bury yourself underneath a rock with an
excuse like bringing up Koresh--as if Koresh actually had truth in him.
David Koresh was no light and no excuse for
you to stay away from the real Jesus Christ. David Koresh, who
claimed to be Jesus, was a fraud. It was obvious. David Koresh
was born in America. Jesus was born in Bethlehem. Koresh wasn't
even a good imposter having missed an obvious point as that.
Jesus warned of such imposters in the end-times. David
Koresh wasn't anything new to Jesus. Jesus told us to be
aware of imposters 2000 years ago.
So the next time an imposter makes a scene and claims to
be Jesus. Ask the obvious. Where were you born? Was your
mother's name Mary? If the Branch Davidians asked that
simple question, they would have labeled Koresh a liar
right from the start. The wouldn't have followed Koresh.
They wouldn't have died. But look what happened. Their
ignorance cost them their lives. Their choice to be ignorant
cost them a lot.
Kent, since you studied the Bible under Lutheranism, do you
not remember what tactic Satan used to try to tempt Jesus?
Did not Satan quote the Bible out of context? Do you
remember what tactic the serpent of Genesis used to tempt
Eve? Did he not misquote God? What Satan used on Eve and succeeded,
was the same ploy he tried on Jesus. But in Jesus's case,
Jesus rebuked Satan back with the Bible _in_ context. It
didn't work with Jesus.
Does what Satan did to Eve in the Garden and what Satan
tried to do with Jesus in the desert remind you of what
Koresh did to his followers? Who did Koresh emulate?
Who was Koresh's teacher? Koresh did to his followers what
Satan did to Eve. Did not Koresh kill his followersr? Did
not Satan cause Adam and Eve to die as well? Did not
the cult followers believe Koresh even though they knew
the real Christ was born in Bethlehem? Did not Eve
choose to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and
evil despite knowing that it would cause her death? God
held them all responsible--deceiver and the rebeller. None
of them had an excuse.
As opposed to the Branch Davidians, we have a second chance.
Follow Jesus and he will escort us to the path of eternal life.
Don't follow Jesus, and you stand condemned already, for like
the Branch Davidian complex, your house is already on fire.
Satan, Adam and Eve have already set it ablaze. It is just
a slow burn, but it is burning nevertheless.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
>>>>> On 11 May 93 06:38:48 GMT, Fil.Sapienza@med.umich.edu (Fil Sapienza) said:
> In article <May.7.01.09.44.1993.14556@athos.rutgers.edu> maxwell c muir,
> muirm@argon.gas.organpipe.uug.arizona.edu writes:
>>The ambiguity of religious beliefs, an unwillingness to take
>>Pascal's Wager,
> I've heard this frequently - what exactly is Pascal's wager?
Either A: God exists, or B: He doesn't. We have two choices, either
1: Believe in God, or 2: Don't believe in God. If A is true, then 2
brings eternal damnation, whereas 1 brings eternal life. If B is
true, then 1 has minor inconvenience compared with 2. Thus, it is
rational to believe in God.
This has numerous flaws, covered in the FAQ for alt.atheism, amongst
other places.
>> Do I sound "broken" to you?
> I don't know. You point out that your mother's treatment upset you,
> and see inconsistencies in various religions. I'm not sure if that
> constitutes broken-ness or not. It certainly consititutes
> disillusionment.
Disillusionment strikes me as an excellent reason for stopping
believing in something.
--
Bruce CMSR, University of Liverpool
Religion is myth-information
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <C5yDwp.6G0@ncube.com>, bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) says:
>
>Either choice is good, but beware that
>I did not experience reasonable mileage
>with the V6. Average city driving was
><15mpg, with about 21 avg. on the highway.
My Nissan Quest has been doing 20mpg city, though its first few tanks
were more like 17mpg. The V6 and AT are remarkably smooth.
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Johnny P. Stephens | Sig file upgrade on backorder. Will be
Distance Learning Technology | here "any day now."
Arizona State University | Opinions expressed are mine.
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| 7rec.autos |
In article <734874577snx@finbol.toppoint.de> jschief@finbol.toppoint.de (Joerg Schlaeger) writes:
>[......]
>Better OSs (OS/2 & iX) are able to handle more than 16MB of DRAM,
>if you use EISA-Bus.
>Has someone experience with VLB ??
>I think of SCSI-VLB-Busmaster. The problem is the 16bit Floppy DMA
>controller, which is unable to reach more than 16MB.
I don't think FD is a problem. Since FD is much sloooooooowwwwwwer
than HD, the overhead of double buffering doesn't matter.
Ken Nakata
--
/* I apologize if there are incorrect, rude, and/or impolite expressions in
this mail or post. They are not intended. Please consider that English is a
second language for me and I don't have full understanding of certain words
or each nuance of a phrase. Thank you. -- Ken Nakata, CIS student, NJIT */
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <3044@cronos.metaphor.com> covdy@shemesh.metaphor.com (Ivan Covdy)
wrote in response to article <30975@galaxy.ucr.edu>, raffi@watnxt08.ucr.edu
(Raffi R Kojian) says:
[IC] There are some Armenians here, in the USA.
[IC] In fact, there are some areas where Armenians are majority.
[IC] Suppose, a large group of people of one of such area decides,
[IC] that the US "government is not representing their interests, and vote for
[IC] seperation" from the USA.
The Armenians you refer to have chosen to come to the United States lawfully
and peacefully. However, if Armenians invade the United States and force
Americans to either flee or become Armenians, it will not succeed. Similarly,
the Armenians of Karabakh are being forced by Azerbaijan to either become
Azeris or leave, and it also will not succeed, as has been demonstrated.
Karabakh, irrespective of its geographic position situated technically within
the Stalin-prepared borders of Azerbaijan, has been long oppressed and
eventually was invaded in 1991 by Azeri OMON and Soviet forces, resulting in
the northern third of this Armenian area being depopulated of Armenians. The
Armenians have been fighting back ever since.
Clearly, you feel it rather ridiculous for Armenians, of let's say Glendale,
California, to engage in an independence movement for a free and independent
Glendale. Similarly, the Azerbaijanis are engaging in a losing attempt at
claiming sovereignty over the land and people of Karabakh, who have lived
continuously in Karabakh a thousand years before the first Central Asian
invaders ever stepped foot in the Caucasus.
[IC] Should they get it?
[IC] And should the UN enforce their will?
[IC] And is it a simple, beautiful concept, indeed?
Your analogy has broken down because you have switched positions of the victim
and invader. A better analogy would be the direct parallel between Armenians
of Karabakh and Native Americans. Now, if you wish, we can discuss the tenets
of might versus right and the policies of settler nations!
--
David Davidian dbd@urartu.sdpa.org | "Armenia has not learned a lesson in
S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies | Anatolia and has forgotten the
P.O. Box 382761 | punishment inflicted on it." 4/14/93
Cambridge, MA 02238 | -- Late Turkish President Turgut Ozal
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <C5w8xB.Iv6@world.std.com> (sci.image.processing,comp.graphics), wdm@world.std.com (Wayne Michael) writes:
> I have been searching for a quality image enhancement and
> manipulation package for Unix/X/Motif platforms that is comparable
> to Adobe Photo Shop for the Mac. [stuff deleted]
I understand that Adobe is working on making Photoshop available for
the SGI Indigo, but that is just "rumor" and I wouldn't bet on it
until I see it. But they >are< going to release Illustrator for the SGI
"real soon now."
--
charles boesel @ diablo creative | If Pro = for and Con = against
cboesel@diablo.uu.holonet.net | Then what's the opposite of Progress?
+1.510.687.3119(work) | What else, Congress.
| 1comp.graphics |
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| 6misc.forsale |
Here are the NHL's alltime leaders in goals and points at the end of
the 1992-3 season. Again, much thanks to Joseph Achkar.
Carl
Notes: An active player is a player that has scored at least one
point the past season. The points leaders follow the goal leaders.
If you find any mistakes, please send me email.
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All time NHL leading goal scorers (* denotes active player):
1. Gordie Howe Det-Hfd 801
2. *Wayne Gretzky Edm-LA 765
3. Marcel Dionne Det-LA-NYR 731
4. Phil Esposito Chi-Bos-NYR 717
5. Bobby Hull Chi-Wpg-Hfd 610
6. *Mike Gartner Wsh-Min-NYR 583
7. Mike Bossy NYI 573
8. Guy Lafleur Mtl-NYR-Que 560
9. Johnny Bucyk Det-Bos 556
10. Maurice Richard Mtl 544
11. Stan Mikita Chi 541
12. Frank Mahovlich Tor-Det-Mtl 533
13. *Michel Goulet Que-Chi 532
14. *Jari Kurri Edm-LA 524
15. Bryan Trottier NYI-Pit 520
16. Gilbert Perreault Buf 512
17. Jean Beliveau Mtl 507
18. Lanny McDonald Tor-Col-Cgy 500
19. Jean Ratelle NYR-Bos 491
20. Norm Ullman Det-Tor 490
21. *Dino Ciccarelli Min-Wsh-Det 485
22. Darryl Sittler Tor-Phi-Det 484
23. *Mario Lemieux Pit 477
24. *Glenn Anderson Edm-Tor 459
25. Alex Delvecchio Det 456
26. *Mark Messier Edm-NYR 452
27. *Dale Hawerchuk Wpg-Buf 449
28. Rick Middleton NYR-Bos 448
29. *Steve Yzerman Det 445
30. *Peter Stastny Que-NJ 444
31. Rick Vaive Van-Tor-Chi-Buf 441
32. *Joe Mullen StL-Cgy-Pit 433
33. Yvan Cournoyer Mtl 428
34. *Dave Taylor LA 427
35. Steve Shutt Mtl-LA 424
36. *Denis Savard Chi-Mtl 423
37. Bill Barber Phi 420
38. *Brian Propp Phi-Bos-Min 413
39. Gary Unger Tor-Det-StL-Atl-LA-Edm 413
40. Rod Gilbert NYR 406
41. *Steve Larmer Chi 406
42. *John Ogrodnick Det-Que-NYR 402
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Other active players:
*Bernie Nicholls LA-NYR-Edm-NJ 397
*Pat LaFontaine NYI-Buf 386
*Brian Bellows Min-Mtl 382
*Dave Andreychuk Buf-Tor 373
*Tim Kerr Phi-NYR-Hfd 370
*Bobby Smith Min-Mtl 357
*Brett Hull Cgy-StL 356
*Luc Robitaille LA 353
*Mike Foligno Det-Buf-Tor 351
*Dave Christian Wpg-Wsh-Bos-StL-Chi 340
*Paul Coffey Edm-Pit-LA-Det 330
*Brent Sutter NYI-Chi 325
*Pat Verbeek NJ-Hfd 318
*Ron Francis Hfd-Pit 311
*Cam Neely Van-Bos 292
*Ray Bourque Bos 291
*Bob Carpenter Wsh-NYR-LA-Bos-Tor 285
*Brent Ashton Van-Col-NJ-Min-Que-Det-Wpg-Bos-Cgy 284
*Doug Gilmour Stl-Cgy-Tor 277
*Rick Tocchet Phi-Pit 277
*Kevin Dineen Hfd-Phi 275
*Tomas Sandstrom NYR-LA 273
*Dale Hunter Que-Wsh 269
*Ryan Walter Wsh-Mtl-Van 264
*Brian Mullen Wpg-NYR-SJ-NYI 260
*Ed Olczyk Chi-Tor-Wpg-NYR 260
*Kirk Muller NJ-Mtl 258
*Joe Nieuwendyk Cgy 257
*Jimmy Carson LA-Edm-Det 254
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
All time NHL scoring leaders (* denotes active player):
1. *Wayne Gretzky Edm-LA 765 1563 2328
2. Gordie Howe Det-Hfd 801 1049 1850
3. Marcel Dionne Det-LA-NYR 731 1040 1771
4. Phil Esposito Chi-Bos-NYR 717 873 1590
5. Stan Mikita Chi 541 926 1467
6. Bryan Trottier NYI-Pit 520 890 1410
7. Johnny Bucyk Det-Bos 556 813 1369
8. Guy Lafleur Mtl-NYR-Que 560 793 1353
9. Gilbert Perreault Buf 512 814 1326
10. Alex Delvecchio Det 456 825 1281
11. Jean Ratelle NYR-Bos 491 776 1267
12. *Mark Messier Edm-NYR 452 780 1232
13. Norm Ullman Det-Tor 490 739 1229
14. *Peter Stastny Que-NJ 444 777 1221
15. Jean Beliveau Mtl 507 712 1219
16. *Dale Hawerchuk Wpg-Buf 449 763 1212
17. Bobby Clarke Phi 358 852 1210
18. *Paul Coffey Edm-Pit-LA-Det 330 871 1201
19. *Denis Savard Chi-Mtl 423 769 1192
20. *Jari Kurri Edm-LA 524 666 1190
21. *Mario Lemieux Pit 477 697 1174
22. Bobby Hull Chi-Wpg-Hfd 610 560 1170
23. Bernie Federko StL 369 761 1130
24. Mike Bossy NYI 573 553 1126
25. *Michel Goulet Que-Chi 532 590 1122
26. Darryl Sittler Tor-Phi-Det 484 637 1121
27. *Mike Gartner Wsh-Min-NYR 583 524 1107
28. Frank Mahovlich Tor-Det-Mtl 533 570 1103
29. *Ray Bourque Bos 291 806 1099
30. *Dave Taylor LA 427 635 1062
31. Denis Potvin NYI 310 742 1052
32. Henri Richard Mtl 358 688 1046
33. *Steve Yzerman Det 445 595 1040
34. *Bobby Smith Min-Mtl 357 679 1036
35. Rod Gilbert NYR 406 615 1021
36. *Glenn Anderson Edm-Tor 459 559 1018
37. Lanny McDonald Tor-Col-Cgy 500 506 1006
38. Rick Middleton NYR-Bos 448 540 988
39. Dave Keon Tor-Hfd 396 590 986
40. *Ron Francis Hfd-Pit 311 675 986
41. *Bernie Nicholls LA-NYR-Edm-NJ 397 580 977
42. *Brian Propp Phi-Bos-Min 413 561 974
43. Andy Bathgate NYR-Tor-Det-Pit 349 624 973
44. Maurice Richard Mtl 544 421 965
45. Larry Robinson Mtl-LA 208 750 958
46. *Dino Ciccarelli Min-Wsh-Det 485 472 957
47. *Steve Larmer Chi 406 517 923
48. *Joe Mullen StL-Cgy-Pit 433 486 919
49. Bobby Orr Bos-Chi 270 645 915
50. Brad Park NYR-Bos-Det 213 683 896
51. Butch Goring LA-NYI-Bos 375 513 888
52. Bill Barber Phi 420 463 883
53. Dennis Maruk Cal-Cle-Wsh-Min 356 521 877
54. Ivan Boldirev Bos-Cal-Chi-Atl-Van-Det 361 505 866
55. Yvan Cournoyer Mtl 428 435 863
56. Dean Prentice NYR-Bos-Det-Pit-Min 391 469 860
57. Ted Lindsay Det-Chi 379 472 851
58. Tom Lysiak Atl-Chi 292 551 843
59. *Dale Hunter Que-Wsh 269 570 839
60. John Tonelli NYI-Cgy-LA-Chi-Que 325 511 836
61. Jacques Lemaire Mtl 366 469 835
62. *Larry Murphy LA-Wsh-Min-Pit 203 631 834
63. *John Ogrodnick Det-Que-NYR 402 425 827
64. *Doug Wilson Chi-SJ 237 590 827
65. *Doug Gilmour Stl-Cgy-Tor 277 548 825
66. Red Kelly Det-Tor 281 542 823
67. Pierre Larouche Pit-Mtl-Hfd-NYR 395 427 822
68. Bernie Geoffrion Mtl-NYR 393 429 822
69. Steve Shutt Mtl-LA 424 393 817
70. *Phil Housley Buf-Wpg 242 575 817
71. Wilf Paiment KC-Col-Tor-Que-NYR-Buf-Pit 356 458 814
72. Peter McNab Buf-Bos-Van-NJ 363 450 813
73. *Brian Bellows Min-Mtl 382 428 810
74. *Dave Andreychuk Buf-Tor 373 436 809
75. Pit Martin Det-Bos-Chi-Van 324 485 809
76. *Pat LaFontaine NYI-Buf 386 421 807
77. Ken Linesman Phi-Edm-Bos 256 551 807
78. Gary Unger Tor-Det-StL-Atl-LA-Edm 413 391 804
79. Ken Hodge,Sr Chi-Bos-NYR 328 472 800
80. *Neal Broten Min 249 547 796
81. Wayne Cashman Bos 277 516 793
82. Rick Vaive Van-Tor-Chi-Buf 441 347 788
83. Borje Salming Tor-Det 150 637 787
84. Jean Pronovost Pit-Atl-Wsh 391 383 774
85. Peter Mahovlich Det-Mtl-Pit 288 485 773
86. *Dave Christian Wpg-Wsh-Bos-StL-Chi 340 430 770
87. Rick Kehoe Tor-Pit 371 396 767
88. Rick MacLeish Phi-Hfd-Pit-Det 349 410 759
89. *Thomas Steen Wpg 240 511 751
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Other active players:
*Al MacInnis Cgy 185 555 740
*Luc Robitaille LA 353 371 724
*Mike Foligno Det-Buf-Tor 351 367 718
*Brent Sutter NYI-Chi 325 389 714
*Mark Howe Hfd-Phi-Det 192 520 712
*Kirk Muller NJ-Mtl 258 433 691
*Tim Kerr Phi-NYR-Hfd 370 304 674
*Adam Oates Det-StL-Bos 167 490 657
*Randy Carlyle Tor-Pit-Wpg 148 499 647
*Ryan Walter Wsh-Mtl-Van 264 382 646
*Pat Verbeek NJ-Hfd 318 313 631
*Brent Ashton Van-Col-NJ-Min-Que-Det-Wpg-Bos-Cgy 284 345 629
*Bob Carpenter Wsh-NYR-LA-Bos-Tor 285 337 622
*Brian Mullen Wpg-NYR-SJ-NYI 260 362 622
*Ed Olczyk Chi-Tor-Wpg-NYR 260 358 618
*Kelly Kisio Det-NYR-SJ 215 402 617
*Brett Hull Cgy-StL 356 247 603
*Rick Tocchet Phi-Pit 277 324 601
*Dan Quinn Cgy-Pit-Van-StL-Phi-Min 232 367 599
*Scott Stevens Wsh-StL-NJ 132 462 594
*Tomas Sandstrom NYR-LA 273 320 593
*Tom Fergus Bos-Tor-Van 235 346 581
*Dave Babych Wpg-Hfd-Van 120 460 580
*Mike Ridley NYR-Wsh 230 348 578
*Laurie Boschman Tor-Edm-Wpg-NJ-Ott 225 350 575
*Keith Acton Mtl-Min-Edm-Phi 224 350 574
*Murray Craven Det-Phi-Hfd 205 365 570
*Kevin Dineen Hfd-Phi 275 290 565
*Rob Ramage Col-StL-Cgy-Tor-Min-TB 139 423 562
*Mike Krushelnyski Bos-Edm-LA-Tor 234 319 553
*Gary Suter Cgy 124 428 552
*Pierre Turgeon Buf-NYI 218 324 542
*Troy Murray Chi-Wpg 217 324 541
*Cam Neely Van-Bos 292 241 533
*Geoff Courtnall Bos-Edm-Wsh-StL-Van 246 274 520
*Vincent Damphousse Tor-Edm-Mtl 195 320 515
*Jimmy Carson LA-Edm-Det 254 259 513
*Peter Zezel Phi-StL-Wsh-Tor 182 328 510
*Guy Carbonneau Mtl 207 302 509
*Mark Osborne Det-NYR-Tor-Wpg 202 301 503
*Chris Chelios Mtl-Chi 108 394 502
*Dave Poulin Phi-Bos 195 301 496
*Ray Ferraro Hfd-NYI 230 263 493
*Russ Courtnall Tor-Mtl-Min 208 284 492
*Joe Nieuwendyk Cgy 257 234 491
*John MacLean NJ 241 248 489
--
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Hi! I am in immediate need for details of various graphics compression
techniques. So if you know where I could obtain descriptions of algo-
rithms or public-domain source codes for such formats as JPEG, GIF, and
fractals, I would be immensely grateful if you could share the info with
me. This is for a project I am contemplating of doing.
Thanks in advance. Please reply via e-mail if possible.
--hBJ
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <1240002@isoit109.BBN.HP.COM> sude@isoit109.BBN.HP.COM (#Susanne Denninger) writes:
>
>1. How dangerous is it ? From whom is it especially dangerous ?
>
Dangerous only to immune suppressed persons and fetuses. To them,
it is extremely dangerous. Most of the rest of us have already had
it and it isn't dangerous at all.
>2. How is it transmitted (I read about raw meat and cats, but I'd like to
> have more details) ?
>
Cat feces are the worst. Pregnant women should never touch the litter box.
>3. What can be done to prevent infection ?
>
Cook your meat. Watch it with pets.
>4. What are the symptoms and long-term effects ?
>
You'll have to read up on it.
>5. What treatments are availble ?
>
There is an effective antibiotic that can keep it in check.
Of course, it can't reverse damage already done, such as in
a fetus.
--
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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| 13sci.med |
In article <186209@pyramid.pyramid.com>, pcollac@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Paul Collacchi) writes:
> BTW, what is the story with Brian Hunter? Is he in the dog house?
> Paul Collacchi
No, Brian's hurt. His hand I think. He started Saturday's game but was taken
out. It's far too early to populate the dog house, although Bedrock was seen
with a milkbone.
--
"Read that to memory and process it!" - RUSSELL EARNEST
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp: ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!prism!re4
ARPA: russell.earnest@housing.gatech.edu
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <Apr.2.07.48.07.1993.21309@romulus.rutgers.edu>,
kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) wrote:
>
> When I entered 1st grade, Eisenhower was President and John F. Kennedy
> was just a relatively obscure Senator from New England. So how old do
> you think I am now?
Ask me whether I'm surprised that you haven't managed to waddle out of
college after all this time.
--
Lefty (lefty@apple.com)
C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Could someone please give me some info regarding the USR Sportsters that have
recently dropped below $200? I was going to buy a used Courier v32bis external
without fax for $200 but now I see the Sportster with Fax is selling below
$200 brand new! Are these good modems? What warranty do they carry?
Any info very much appreciated.
Kevin
hollyk@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In <ellis.735675321@nova> ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) writes:
>>Is there anyway to use X Windows over an async line? Clearly you could use
> x
>It is X window.
No, it isn't. It is the "X Window System", or "X11", or "X" or any of
a number of other designations accepted by the X Consortium. In fact,
doing "man X" on pretty much any X11 machine will tell you:
The X Consortium requests that the following names be used
when referring to this software:
X
X Window System
X Version 11
X Window System, Version 11
X11
There is no such thing as "X Windows" or "X Window", despite the repeated
misuse of the forms by the trade rags. This probably tells you something
about how much to trust the trade rags -- if they can't even get the NAME
of the window system right, why should one trust anything else they have
to say?
With regard to dialup X11 implementations, there are several. You can
buy serial X11 terminals from a couple of companies, including both
GraphOn and NCD. (In fact, I'm composing this from an NCD running X11
over serial lines across 14.4 kbaud connection.)
NCD also sells a software-only package that provides XRemote (which is
NCD's implementation of serial X11) for PC's. There may be other such
software packages available.
X11R6 is supposed to include a standardized compression scheme for running
X11 over low-speed connections. It's called Low Bandwidth X (LBX), and
is based on improved versions of the techniques used in NCD's XRemote.
It seems likely that once LBX is released as a Consortium standard, there
will be several vendors willing to supply implementations for various
sorts of hardware.
Followups directed to comp.windows.x
--
Matt Landau Waiting for a flash of enlightenment
matt@centerline.com in all this blood and thunder
| 5comp.windows.x |
Searched without luck for a FAQ here. I need a left 85 Aspencade
mirror and Honda wants $75 for it. Now if this were another piece
of chrome to replace the black plastic that wings come so liberally
supplied with I might be able to see that silly price, but a mirror
is a piece of SAFETY EQUIPMENT. The fact that Honda clearly places
concern for their profits ahead of concern for my safety is enough
to convince me that this (my third) wing will likely be my last.
In the mean time, anyboby have a non-ripoff source for a mirror?
keith smith keith@hydra.unm.edu
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Scott Evans <server.cs.Virginia.EDU> writes:
> I'm trying to create a button that has both a label and a bitmap using
> the MenuButton widget. Is this possible? Right now, all I get is the
> bitmap -- no sign of the label.
That's expected. The first sentence describing the bitmap resource in the
MenuButton section of the "Athena Widget Set - C Language Interface"
documentation states
bitmap A bitmap to display instead of the label.
One way round this might be to make use of the button's backgroundPixmap
resource, but remember that you, or a user of your application, won't be able
to set it from a resource file. Also, the button won't automatically be the
size of the bitmap. The bitmap will be tiled if necessary, or you could set the
button's dimensions to match its size.
Jim
---
J.K.Wight@newcastle.ac.uk
Department of Computing Science, University of Newcastle, Tel: +44 91 222 8238
Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, United Kingdom. Fax: +44 91 222 8232
| 5comp.windows.x |
Does anyone know of any c or c++ libraries for preparing
and displaying quickly pages of mixed text, mathematical equations,
and graphics (circles,ellipses,etc) on the vdu? The maths wouldnt
need to be up to TeX quality, but it would be useful to be scaleable.
The main thing would be to be able to generate the display quickly
from a minimum set of formatting code.
Thanks,
Ed Campbell
| 1comp.graphics |
Way back in the early years (~50's) it took 8 wins to garner the Stanley Cup.
Soooooo, a couple of local fish mongers (local to the Joe Louis Arena, that is)
started the tradition of throwing an octopi onto the ice with every win. After
each victory, one leg would be severed before the octopus found its way to the
ice. (They are dead by the way.) It was a brilliant marketing strategy to
shore up the demand for one of their least popular products.
Hope this helps.
J. Lange
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In a previous article, gs26@prism.gatech.EDU (Glenn R. Stone) says:
>
>Fact: Both Janet Reno and Bill Clinton have admitted responsibility,
> even grief, over the deaths in Waco.
>
>Fact: Regardless of who started the fire, there are more than enough
> things on tape to make a civil rights case against these two.
> Cruel and unusual punishment (dying tortured rabbits on tape?)
> come to mind.
>
>Fact: It is a federal felony to infringe civil rights under color of
> law; where death is involved, this offense carries a penalty
> of life in prison.
>
>Fact: Impeachment is allowable for "high crimes and misdemeanors."
> Anything that's a federal felony should qualify.
>
>Conclusion: We have NO CHOICE, if we are an honest people, but to
> impeach Mr. Clinton, and remove Reno from office.
I HEARTILY agree. Now that the BATF warrant has been
unsealed, it is CLEAR that Clinton and Reno supported an
ILLEGAL raid. Did they not KNOW this?
NO authority for a 'no-knock" raid
NO authority to use helicopters.
NO authority to search for a "drug lab"
And, apparently, not even any authority to search for "automatic
weapons".
51 days of GOVERNMENT LIES.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Cancel private health insurance?
When government care that only covers 20% of the population consumes
42% of the spending for health care?
NOT!
National Health Expenditures: 1960 to 1990
(Includes Puerto Rico and outlying areas.)
Year Health Services and Supplies ($billions)
Private Public
====================================
1960 $19.8 $5.7 (22% of total)
1970 $44.1 $24.9 (56% of total)
1980 $140.7 $98.1 (41% of total)
1990 $374.8 $268.6 (42% of total)
[Source: American Almanac, Page 97. 1992-3 Edition]
Now you understand where most of that 12.2% of GNP is going--to waste.
By these figures, private insurance is spending 58% of the money to
cover 4 times as many people.
Go figure.
Brett
________________________________________________________________________________
"There's nothing so passionate as a vested interest disguised as an
intellectual conviction." Sean O'Casey in _The White Plague_ by Frank Herbert.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <1pic4lINNrau@gap.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
|> bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine) writes:
|>
|> >My personal objection is that I find capital punishment to be
|> >cruel and unusual punishment under all circumstances.
|>
|> It can be painless, so it isn't cruel. And, it has occurred frequently
|> since the dawn of time, so it is hardly unusual.
Koff! You mean that as long as I put you to sleep first,
I can kill you without being cruel?
This changes everything.
jon.
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <allan.735284991@swanlake> allan@cs.UAlberta.CA (Allan Sullivan) writes:
>Next, a clip was shown from an earlier episode, in which Don was
>proclaiming Doug Gilmour to be the best player, not only in
>the NHL, but in the world. What about players like Lemieux?
>Don said that Gilmour was the best PLAYER, not "Designated point getter".
>Its not like baseball, where you have a "designatted hitter" who
>can score runs but can't play defense. Gilmour is a good two way player.
What can you expect from a buffoon who said that the Pens should have
drafted Kirk Muller instead of Mario Lemieux?
Perhaps once upon a time Don Cherry had some insight into the game of
hockey, but he's really degenerated into a parody of himself.
Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
I want to run SPICE on my XT so I can learn more about amplifiers
and oscilators. Is there a version of this that will run on my XT
with no math co-processer, if so where can I get it? Thanks for any
and all help!
Jeff
--
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jeffj@seeker.mystic.com | Canada/USA Free Trade cost Canada 400,000 jobs.
Infolinc BBS 415-778-5929 | Want to guess how many we'll lose to Mexico?
| 12sci.electronics |
I've installed many X apps, and have that many of them Imakefiles that have
lines startingwith XCOMM in them. When I do a xmkmf to create the Makefile,
the Makefile also has the XCOMM (comment?) lines in them. I always have
to edit out these lines because the make command barfs on them. I was
wondering what these lines were for, and what I might be doing wrong that
causes the make command to dislike them. Thanks!
| 5comp.windows.x |
Dave O'Shea (dos@major.panix.com) wrote:
: wdstarr@athena.mit.edu (William December Starr) writes:
: > > However, legalizing it and just sticking some drugs in gas stations to
: > > be bought like cigarettes is just plain silly. Plus, I have never
: > > heard of a recommended dosage for drugs like crack, ecstasy, chrystal
: > > meth and LSD. The 60 Minute Report said it worked with "cocaine"
: > > cigarettes, pot and heroin.
: >
: > Or, the government could adopt the radical and probably unAmerican idea
: > that citizens are free to live their lives as they wish, and simply
: > decriminalize cocaine, marijuana, heroin, LSD, etc. Please explain why
: > the idea of allowing recreational drugs to be "bought like cigarettes"
: > is "just plain silly." After all, it works just fine for nicotine...
: I'm all in favor of drug legalization, but I do see some problems with
: it. My hope is that people disposed to doing so would simply overdose
: quickly, and be done with it, before making a mess of thisgs.
It's actually quite simple. We sell Drug Use Licenses to anybody over age
18 who wants one. Costs $100 and you're required to attend a week of
night classes on the effects of drugs on the human body. At the end of the
class, you sign an informed consent waiver acknowledging that you've been
told that drugs are bad for you, but you want them anyway. In doing so,
you giver up ANY right to state-paid medical care for whatever might
happen to you as a result of doing drugs, or any right to collect welfare
or unemployment should you lose your job as a result of using drugs. You'd
also give up your right to drive a car.
Anybody caught using drugs without a license has a choice; pay a $1000
fine and accept a backdated drug user's license, or go to prison.
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| 18talk.politics.misc |
OK. Instead of holding an auction, I have decided to compute prices for each comic (after many suggestions). These are the most reasonable prices I can give (not negotiable). If you would like to purchase a comic (or group), simply email me with the title and issue #'s you want. The price for each issue is shown beside each comic. First come, first served!!! There is no more bidding. Meet my price and it is yours. I can be reached at this email address:
02106@chopin.udel.edu or
02106@ravel.udel.edu or
02106@bach.udel.edu or
02106@brahms.udel.edu
NO MORE HAGGLING ABOUT THE PRICE!!!!!!!!
LOTS OF COMICS FOR $1, $2, or $3 LOOK AT LIST!!!!!
Shipping is $2 for 1-3 comics. For more than 3, the price will be determined by the volume of the purchase (I may have to use a big heavy box for large orders which costs more to mail).
For all those who have bought comics from me, thanks!!!
All comics are near mint unless otherwise noted (my books were graded by
mile high comics and other comic professional collectors, not me!)
Here is the list:
*reserved* means that I have made a deal with a person and I am waiting for the check to arrive.
*reserved* comics are as good as sold (sorry!)
Incredible Hulk
156 (vs another Hulk) $3
195 $2
196 $2
246 (vs Captain Marvel) $1
248 $1
249 $1
250 (Double size issue vs Silver Surfer) $5
255 (vs Thor) $1
279 $1
300 $2
312 $2
313 $1
316 (vs Bi Coastal Avengers) $1
347 $1 *reserved*
348 $1
350 (vs Thing) $2
354 $1
358 $1
360 $1
362 (vs Werewolf By Night) $2
364 $1
365 $1
366 $1 *reserved*
379 (1 copy) $5
Punisher
50 $1
57 $2
Punisher War Journal
29 (Ghost Rider) $2
30 (Ghost Rider) $2
Punisher Armory
1 $4
2 $2
Original Ghost Rider Rides Again (Reprint)
1 $1
Ghost Rider (old series)
37 $3 *reserved*
43 (vs Johnny Blaze) $3 *reserved*
77 (2 copies, origin of GR dream) $4 each
Ghost Rider (new series)
15 (1st print, Green glow in dark cover, 1 copy) $5
15 (2nd print, gold cover w/ glow cover) $3
Web of Spiderman
56 (2 copies) $2 each
60 $3
69 (vs Hulk, 1 copy left!!!) $2
70 (SpiderHulk, 1 copy left!!!) $2
71 $1
72 $1
78 $1
Deadly Foes of Spiderman
1 (2 copies) $2 each
2 $2
3 $2
Amazing Spiderman vs Dr. Octopus (special NACME issue) $2
Amazing Spiderman
350 (vs Dr. Doom, 1 copy LEFT!!!) $2
Spiderman (1990)
1 (silver, not bagged) $4
6 $3
7 $3
8 (2 copies) $2 each
9 (w/ Wolverine, 1 COPY LEFT!!!) $2
10 $2
11 $1
13 $5
16 $1
Enemy Ace Special #1 $2
New Warriors
1 (gold cover) $2
8 $4
Superman Man of Steel #1 $2
Superman (new)
53 (2 copies) $1 each
55 $1
56 $1
Adventures of Superman
479 $1
Annual #3 $1
Superman Annual #3 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1
Action Comics #666 $1
Avengers West Coast #69 (Hawkeye vs US Agent) $1
Batman
465 (Robin returns) $2
466 $1
467 $1
Annual #15 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $3
Captain America
230 (vs Hulk) $2
257 (vs Hulk) $1
Armegedon 2001
1 $4
2 $2
Foolkiller #1 $2
Infinity Gauntlet
1 $6
4 $3
5 $3
Double Dragon #1 $1
Deathlok (series)
2 $1
Transformers #80 (last issue) $2
Wonder Man
1 $1
2 $1
Flaming Carrot #25 (w/ Ninja Turtles) $2
The Comet #1 $1
Legend of the Shield #1 $1
Justice Society of America
1 $1
2 $1
3 $1
4 $1
Official movie mag from Turtles II movie (sealed w/ Jelloman comic) $5
Robin
1 (1 copies w/ poster) $3
1 (3rd print) $1
5 (6 copies) $1 each
Guardians of the Galaxy
1 $6
2 $3
3 $2
4 $2
5 $2
6 $2
7 $2
8 $2
9 (2 copies) $3 each
10 $2
11 $2
12 $1
13 $3
14 $3
15 $1
16 $1
17 $1
18 (2 copies) $2 each
Superman vs Amazing Spiderman (oversized issue from 70's) $7 *reserved*
DarkHawk
1 (3 copies) $8 each
2 (2 copies) $6 each
3 $5
4 $4
5 $4
6 $3
7 $2
8 $2
9 $3
10 $1
Thor
246 $1
428 $1
429 (vs Juggernaut) $2
430 (w/ Ghost Rider) $1
431 $1
432 (Thor vs Loki, 2 copies) $3 each
433 (new Thor) $2
Annual #16 $1
What if....
13 $1
23 $1
25 $2
26 $1
Alpha Flight
29 $1
51 $6
53 $6
94 (vs Fant. 4) $1
New Mutants
22 $2
100 (last issue, 1st look at X-Force, 1st print, 2 copies) $5 each
100 (2nd print, gold cover) $4
Flash (new)
43 $1
48 $1
49 $1
50 $2
51 $1
Annual #4 $1
Uncanny X-Men
191 $3
215 $2
255 (2 copies) $2 each
258 $6
275 (1 COPY LEFT 1st print) $6
275 (gold 2nd print) $3
276 $3
277 $3
278 $2
279 $2
280 $2
281 $3
282 $4
283 $6
Defenders
52 (Hulk vs Sub Mariner) $2
Fantastic Four
347 $4
348 $2
349 (3 copies) $2 each
Wolverine
11 $3 *reserved*
20 $2
41 (w/ Cable, 2 copies) $6 each
42 $4
43 $3
Silver Surfer (1987)
1 $6
2 $3
3 $3
4 $3
5 $2
6 $2
8 $2
22 $2
24 $2
32 $2
49 $2
50 (Foil cover, only 1 copy left!!) $6
51 $2
52 $2
53 $1
54 $1
55 $1
56 $1
58 $2
59 $2
Avengers
326 $3
328 (origin of Rage) $3
X-Factor
40 $6
67 $3
68 $6
71 $3
73 $1
Green Lantern (1990)
3 $2
9 (2 copies) $1 each
10 $1
11 $1
12 $1
Toxic Avenger
1 (3 copies) $1 each
2 $1
Sleepwalker
1 (3 copies) $2 each
3 $1
7 $1
Kool Aid Man #1 (sealed in white bag, 2 copies) $2 each
X-Force
1 (bagged w/ Cable Card) $4
1 (bagged w/ Shatterstar Card) $3
2 $2
3 $1
4 $1
NFL Superpro
1 $1
Dr. Strange #31 $1
Hawkworld Annual #2 (2nd print, Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1
Hawk & Dove Annual #2 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1
Justice League of America Annual #5 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1
Send all comments to
02106@chopin.udel.edu
Thanks
Sam (the "ex" comic book collector)
College of Electrical Engineering, University of Delaware
| 6misc.forsale |
In a previous article, huot@cray.com (Tom Huot) says:
>Geoff Filinuk (filinuk@staff.dccs.upenn.edu) wrote:
>
>: This comes indirectly from Al Morgani who works in the studio
>: for ESPN hockey.
>[Some text deleted]
>: ESPN is under contractual obligation to show baseball and COULD NOT
>: broadcast the OT of the hockey game. Next year, ESPN2 will be introduced so
>: baseball fans can watch baseball and hockey fans can watch hockey.
>
>I hadn't heard about this new ESPN2. When is this new network
>supposed to start? Sounds great to me! (as long as my cable co.
>offers it)
The USA Today says "late this year". The question is, will hockey be moved to
ESPN2 permenantly, or will it be where they have a game of the week on
ESPN, and have a bunch of other games on ESPN2?
--
Mike Cornell | "There are a great many people in the country today who,
mac18@po.cwru.edu| through no fault of their own, are sane." -Monty Python
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Let's Go Flyers! Stanley Cup in '94! "OH! My brain hurts!"- Mr D. P. Gumby
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
This is for a friend of mine. Please send answers directly to him (E-Mail
adress see below )!
HIGHSPEED ANALOG-DIGITAL PC-BOARD
Hello LAdies and Gentleman !
I am looking for a highspeed A/D PC-Board with a sampling rate above 250 MHz an a
resolution of 8-bit. The sampling rate can be arranged by an interleave mode where
the time equivalent sampling yields 2, 4 or 8 times higher sampling rate than
the A/D-Converter uses in non interleave mode.
The board must content an A/D-Converter similar to Analog Devices AD 9028 or
AD 9038 or if available a faster on.
If you a PC-Board (16-bit slot, ISA) with this specification or better, please
send me an EMail
hansch@cdc2.ikph.uni-hannover.dbp.de
or a Telefax to: ++49 / 511 / 7629353
Thanks in advance for your help !
Sincerely
Matthias Hansch
IKPH, University of Hannover, Germany
---
Andreas Heinbokel
heinboke@tnt.uni-hannover.de
*** ... all wisdom is print on t-shirts ***
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
What about GREASE II?????
Arun.
Cool Rider.
--
Noe there's a look in your eyes,
Like black holes in the sky.
Shine on you crazy diamonds.
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Srinivas Suder writes:
>If the Haitian people's will is that their current Govt. get thrown out,
>they'll find a way to do it. Getting the US/UN to short-cut the process will
>only hasten it, but sets a bad precedent - can the US interfere EVERYWHERE?
>Why not right at our doorstep - Cuba?
Precisely, why not Cuba?? Why not??? The Hatians are being ruled by thugs
and their elected leader has asked support to reestablish the peoples will. If
the U.S. or any other democracy wishes to, they are in the perfect right to
help them without any whining from thir parties. After all if it turns out to
be colonialism and the poeple don't like it, they' find a way to throw them out.
>There is an implicit assumption here that we as outsiders have a right to sit
>in judgement of another people, and to then act on it. To me, it is in there
>that the roots of old colonial attitudes lie. Today, the motives are noble.
>Tomorrow, they may not be.
Who ever said people who commit genocide have the right to commit genocide??
I want a world where criminals agains humanity have no place to hide, while you
want special sovereignties designed to protect them. Nobody has the right to
commit crimes against humanity, and if they do they loose all right to self
determination. If this is classical colonialism, then so be it.
Edelmiro Salas
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
University of Toronto
Instructional and Research Computing
is sponsoring a technical presentation
on Visualization Software
_A_d_v_a_n_c_e_d _V_i_s_u_a_l _S_y_s_t_e_m_s (_A_V_S) _S_o_f_t_w_a_r_e
2:10 PM - 4:00 PM
Thursday, May 6, 1993
Sandford Fleming Building
Room 1105
"Advanced Visual Systems will present this technical seminar on
AVS, the world's leading visualization software package. AVS is
a point and click, module driven, easy-to-use product that
produces full color, two or three dimensional rendered scenes for
interactive observation. It is supported on all current Unix
RISC platforms from Sun, SGI, IBM, H-P, DG, and DEC. It also
runs under DEC VMS.
"AVS is in its fourth year on the street and is very mature. All
fields of science, engineering, medicine, and even business
applications now use AVS. This seminar will focus on its many
features in technical detail during a half hour slide
presentation. Following a question period there will be a live
demonstration using a Sun SPARCstation. In addition, a new AVS
program called CAMPUS will be introduced at this meeting.
"Also discussed will be the International AVS Center, which
provides an on-line repository of over 1000 graphics modules at
the North Carolina Supercomputer Center in Raliegh, NC. AVS has
imbedded tools to write one's own customized modules should these
not be available with AVS or from AVS International."
_S_p_e_a_k_e_r_s
The scheduled speaker for this presentation is Mr. Paul
Ecklund of Ecklund Associates, the distributor of AVS in
Canada.
_T_h_i_s _p_r_e_s_e_n_t_a_t_i_o_n _i_s _o_p_e_n _t_o _t_h_e _p_u_b_l_i_c
| 1comp.graphics |
In article 5276@unisql.UUCP, wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>In article <C5r43y.F0D@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> marshatt@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Zauberer) writes:
>>I guess I wasn't clear enough here. I said the roads WERE designed for
>>speeds of 80 or so and still be safe. The current 55-65 will add a saftey
>>margin.
>
> They were designed for speeds of upwards of 80 - I forget the
>exact spec - but for military vehicles. That's 80 in a 1958 Dodge
>Powerwagon. Not 80 in a 1993 Ford Taurus.
>
>
>
>
Ah yes, the 58 Powerwagon. Now there was a vehicle that today's cars can't
touch in terms of high speed road holding ability! :-)
| 7rec.autos |
Notice the followup-line.
In article <1993Apr15.223844.16453@rambo.atlanta.dg.com> wpr@atlanta.dg.com (Bill Rawlins) writes:
> We are talking about origins, not merely science. Science cannot
> explain origins.
So you have claimed, but you have never explained why. In detail.
For a person to exclude anything but science from
> the issue of origins is to say that there is no higher truth
> than science. This is a false premise. By the way, I enjoy science.
> It is truly a wonder observing God's creation. Macroevolution is
> a mixture of 15 percent science and 85 percent religion [guaranteed
> within three percent error :) ]
Again, you have claimed this, but you have never explained. You never
did explain how deducing macroevolution from its observable consequenses
(effects) is different from deducing Earth's roundness, its position in
the solar system, the existence of atoms and its components etc., from
observable effects.
Please do so or shut up on this subject.
Tero Sand
--
EMail: cust_ts@cc.helsinki.fi or custts@cc.helsinki.fi
"I feel most ministers who claim they've heard God's voice are eating
too much pizza before they go to bed at night, and it's really an
intestinal disorder, not a revelation." - Reverend Jerry Falwell
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <C61rDq.5v5@chinet.chi.il.us> schneier@chinet.chi.il.us (Bruce Schneier) writes:
>In article <1raeir$be1@access.digex.net> steve-b@access.digex.com (Steve Brinich) writes:
>> Ah, but developing cryptosystems which are specificially designed to
>>protect the government's domestic spying capabilities takes them beyond
>>that mandate, into the forbidden field of domestic wiretapping.
>>
>
>Unlike the CIA, the NSA has no prohibition against domestic spying. Read
>Bamford's THE PUZZLE PALACE.
I did. You're mistaken. NSA's communications intelligence mission is
strictly against foreign governments. Here's an excerpt from the enabling
charter (24 Oct 52, Truman) that should clarify this. The charter was
declassified in about Feb 1990 when an FOIA request made it public. Mind
you, I don't know that they never collect anything they're not supposed
to... but spying on US citizens isn't in their charter.
b. The COMINT mission of the National Security Agency
(NSA) shall be to provide an effective, unified organization
and control of the communications intelligence activities of
the United States conducted against foreign governments, to
provide for integrated operational policies and procedures
pertaining thereto. As used in this directive, the terms
"communications intelligence" or "COMINT" shall be construed
to mean all procedures and methods used in the interception
of communications other than foreign press and propaganda
broadcasts and the obtaining of information from such
communications by other than intended recipients, but shall
exclude censorship and the production and dissemination of
finished intelligence.
They're also tasked with protecting the US's communications, but I haven't
seen the specific enabling memo on that. I assume that's the role under
which Skipjack was developed.
NSA is not in the standard-setting business, though -- that's why this
Clipper stuff came from NIST, which I believe is tasked with coming up
with standards based on their best inputs from other government agencies,
which would include NSA.
--
Jim Gillogly
Mersday, 4 Thrimidge S.R. 1993, 21:59
| 11sci.crypt |
Pete Young, on the Tue, 20 Apr 93 08:29:21 GMT wibbled:
: Nick Pettefar (npet@bnr.ca) wrote:
: : Tsk, tsk, tsk. Another newbie bites the dust, eh? They'll learn.
: Newbie. Sorry to disappoint you, but as far as the Internet goes I was
: in Baghdad while you were still in your dads bag.
Is this bit funny?
: Most of the people who made this group interesting 3 or 4 years ago
: are no longer around and I only have time to make a random sweep
: once a week or so. Hence I missed most of this thread.
I'm terribly sorry.
: Based on your previous postings, apparently devoid of humour, sarcasm,
: wit, or the apparent capacity to walk and chew gum at the same time, I
: assumed you were serious. Mea culpa.
I know, I know. Subtlety is sort of, you know, subtle, isn't it.
: Still, it's nice to see that BNR are doing so well that they can afford
: to overpay some contractors to sit and read news all day.
That's foreign firms for you.
..and a touchy newbie, at that.
What's the matter, too much starch in the undies?
--
Nick (the Considerate Biker) DoD 1069 Concise Oxford None Gum-Chewer
M'Lud.
Nick Pettefar, Contractor@Large. /~~~\ "Teneo tuus intervallum"
Cuurrently incarcerated at BNR, {-O^O-} npet@bnr.ca '86 BMW K100RS "Kay"
Maidenhead, The United Kingdom. \ o / Pres. PBWASOH(UK), BS 0002
(-
| 8rec.motorcycles |
A friend of mine managed to get a copy of a computerised Greek and Hebrew
Lexicon called "The Word Perfect" (That is not the word processing
package WordPerfect). However, some one wiped out the EXE file, and she
has not been able to restore it. There are no distributors of the package in
South Africa. I would appreciate it, if some one could email me the file, or
at least tell me where I could get it from.
My email address is
fortmann@superbowl.und.ac.za or
fortmann@shrike.und.ac.za
Many thanks.
In Him, Paul Fortmann
| 15soc.religion.christian |
speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer) wrote:
>
> randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes:
>
> > speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer) writes:
> >| jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne) writes:
> >|> What does "DWI" stand for ? I thought it was "DUI" for Driving Under
> >|>Influence, so here what does W stand for ?
> >|
> >|Driving While Intoxicated.
>
> > Actually, I beleive "DWI" normally means "Driving While Impaired" rather
> >than "Intoxicated", at least it does in the states I've lived in...
>
> >|This was changed here in Louisiana when a girl went to court and won her
> >|case by claiming to be stoned on pot, NOT intoxicated on liquor!
>
> > One can be imparied without necessarily being impaired by liquor - drugs,
> >not enough sleep, being a total moron :-), all can impair someone etc... I'm
> >surprised this got her off the hook... Perhaps DWI in Lousiana *is* confined
> >to liquor?
>
> Lets just say it is DUI here now!
OK. It varies from state to state. It has to do with operating a vehicle
while there is greater than a given percentage of alcohol in your
bloodstream. Can we drop this now, and get back to asking Ed Green to
getabike?
tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."
--gene spafford, 1992
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Come on Boston, where the hell are you? Seven wins in a row and what, choke?
I'd much rather see the Bruins in the Wales Conference finals vs. Pitt than
Buffalo or Quebec, if only because it would be more interesting. Not that
Buffalo or Quebec can't put up a good fight, but I'd much more enjoy a 7-0
pasteing of the Bruins than the Devils. You have to feel for Terrerri(sp?).
Ah, well, maybe the Devils will pull it out, or maybe the Pens will lose in
the second round, but if not, I hope the Bruins are there to meet them.
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Greetings and Salutations!
I would like to get in touch with people who
(a) consider themselves Christians (you define it), and
(b) are in the Martial Arts
Some topics for discussion:
- your particular martial art
- your view of the relationship between
Christianity and your art
- your view of the relationship between
*your* Christianity and your art
- why should a Christian participate in MA
- why shouldn't a Christian participate in MA
- Biblical views of MA; pro or con.
For example, I heard from one fellow:
"...I tried the Karate for Christ thing and it wasn't for me..."
- why or why not?
As an aside, I am involved (in *NO* official way) with an
organization called the Christian Black Belt Association and
I would also like to distribute info regarding upcoming events
to *those who are interested*. No, you won't be put on any
"mailing list" nor will your name be "sold".
However, if you ARE intested in an email list, let me know.
I am interested in email replies ONLY as this is cross-posted
to groups I don't normally read. If anyone wants a summary
or, of course, on-going discussion, then let me know.
Shalom,
Robert Switzer
ka2czu@cbnewsh.att.com
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...-.- Amateur Radio Operator KA2CZU Robert Switzer
| 15soc.religion.christian |
Forwarded from Doug Griffith, Magellan Project Manager
MAGELLAN STATUS REPORT
April 23, 1993
1. The Magellan spacecraft continues to operate normally, gathering
gravity data to plot the density variations of Venus in the
mid-latitudes. The solar panel offpoint was returned to zero degrees
and spacecraft temperatures dropped 2-3 degrees C.
2. An end-to-end test of the Delayed Aerobraking Data readout
process was conducted this week in preparation for the Transition
Experiment. There was some difficulty locking up to the data frames,
and engineers are presently checking whether the problem was in
equipment at the tracking station.
3. Magellan has completed 7277 orbits of Venus and is now 32 days
from the end of Cycle 4 and the start of the Transition Experiment.
4. Magellan scientists were participating in the Brown-Vernadsky
Microsymposium at Brown University in Providence, RI, this week. This
joint meeting of U.S. and Russian Venus researchers has been
continuing for many years.
5. A three-day simulation of Transition Experiment aerobraking
activities is planned for next week, including Orbit Trim Maneuvers
and Starcal (Star calibration) Orbits.
___ _____ ___
/_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov
| | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab |
___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | The aweto from New Zealand
/___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | is part caterpillar and
|_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | part vegetable.
| 14sci.space |
Hi,
I have bought a new harddisk and want to use it with my old
TEAC SD3105 , 100Mb harddisk. Unfortunataly I do not have any
documentation with this harddisk. Could someone please tell me
how I should set the jumpers for master or slave ?
Thanks in advance,
Robert Tenback.
<rhtenbac@cs.ruu.nl>
--
___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ____ Robert Tenback
/__// //__//__ /__/ / rhtenbac@cs.ruu.nl
/ \ /__//__//__ / \ / Utrecht, The Netherlands
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1r19tp$5em@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, mfrhein@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Frederick Rhein) writes:
> >napalm, then let the wood stove inside ignite it.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> As someone else has pointed out, why would the stove be in use on a warm day
> in Texas.
Do YOU eat all your food cold?
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OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In <C5IFpG.7HC@news.claremont.edu> dhosek@jarthur.claremont.edu (D Hosek) writes:
>What is the recommended monitor for XGA? Can I just use any old sVGA
>monitor, or is something more needed? Mostly curious before I go blowing
>a monster wad of cash on a new system.
XGA or XGA-2? For the original XGA you just need something that can do
1024x768 at 45/90Hz interlaced (just tell them "8514 compatible" and they
should get the idea). For the XGA-2, get what you like. I prefer multi-
syncs like the IBM 6319, the NECs or even a fixed frequency monitor like
my home Viewsonic 6. I like the Multisyncs because it's easy to run them
in modes like 800x600x64k colors noninterlaced, or at higher modes like
1360x1024x16.
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Dick Kaul | My opinions only, not official IBM positions, etc--
IBM XGA Development | they'd make me wear a suit if I were to speak for IBM.
Boca Raton, FL | "Shhhh... The maestro is decomposing."
kaul@vnet.ibm.com
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <8966@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, dtate+@pitt.edu (David M. Tate) writes:
|> Uh, right. You also forgot that you can't get an RBI (barring a HR) with
|> nobody on base. What fraction of all runs come on solo HR?
Actually, for the Padres this year so far it's 23%. They are 5th in
the league in HRs, and ALL have been solo shots.
Pythagorean projection puts them at .360 winning percentage
or 58-104. Need some pitching help, fast!
Good news, though, is that Hurst has been throwing curveballs
w/o any pain. Threw 80 pitches yesterday. Should be back
in a couple of weeks. Maybe we can trade him to the Yankees
for Militello.
Dave
--
Dave DeMers demers@cs.ucsd.edu
Computer Science & Engineering 0114 demers%cs@ucsd.bitnet
UC San Diego ...!ucsd!cs!demers
La Jolla, CA 92093-0114 (619) 534-0688, or -8187, FAX: (619) 534-7029
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
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