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NMM>From: nielsmm@imv.aau.dk (Niels Mikkel Michelsen)
NMM>Subject: How to act in front of traffic jerks
NMM>The other day, it was raining cats and dogs, therefor I was going only to
NMM>the speed limit, on nothing more, on my bike. This guy in his BMW was
NMM>driving 1-2 meters behind me for 7-800 meters and at the next red light I
NMM>calmly put the bike on its leg, walked back to this car, he rolled down the
NMM>window, and I told him he was a total idiot (and the reason why).
NMM>Did I do the right thing?
NMM>Yours Truly :
NMM> Niels Mikkel
Well, sounds great to me! When I have a real BDI cager tailgating me,
I've found that an effective strategy is to flash my brake light by
pumping the pedal. You will, obviously need a bit of free play in your
brake pedal to do this. It seems that even the most brain dead idiot can
usually discern that a flashing red light directly in front of
him/her/it may mean that something is wrong.
The two problems I'd see with your strategy is that the red light may
change before you can get anything meaningful out of your mouth, or the
occupant(s) may take exception to your opinions and demonstrate such
physically (on you or your now-parked bike). Admittedly, the latter is a
slim chance, but it would be enough to give me pause.
* SLMR 2.1a * sometimes you get to be the windshield, sometimes the bug
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| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <j0=5l3=@rpi.edu>, johnsd2@jec322.its.rpi.edu (Dan Johnson) writes:
>In article 143048IO30436@MAINE.MAINE.EDU, <IO30436@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> () writes:
Dan Johnson-
You don't know me, but take this hand anyway. Bravo for GO(DS) = 0.
Beautiful! Simply beautiful!
-jim halat
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <899@pivot.sbi.com> bet@sbi.com (Bennett Todd @ Salomon Brothers Inc., NY ) writes:
>
>I heard about this solution, and it sounded good. Then I heard that folks
>were experiencing times of 30-60 seconds to run this, on
>reasonably-configured workstations. I'm not willing to add that much delay
>to someone's login process. My approach (etherfind|compress, skip 10K) takes
>a second or two to run. I'm considering writing the be-all and end-all of
>solutions, that launches the MD5, and simultaneously tries to suck bits off
>the net, and if the net should be sitting __SO__ idle that it can't get 10K
>after compression before MD5 finishes, use the MD5. This way I could have
>guaranteed good bits, and a deterministic upper bound on login time, and
>still have the common case of login take only a couple of extra seconds.
>
53 seconds to hash 20M of core (I bet I know who the source of your
information is!). No, it's not acceptable if it's part of your login
process. But if you are going to use network traffic as the source of
pseudo-random information, do the right thing and pass it through a
cryptographic hash function, not a compressor. Aside from the fact
that it will run faster, it will give better results (think of a
cryptographic hash as a function that "distills" randomness).
Something along the lines of
etherfind -t -x -n | dd bs=1k count=10 2>/dev/null | md5
should do the trick. -t gives you timestamps, and the lack of -u makes
sure that dd does not get ten lines as opposed to ten K. The above
takes a couple of seconds on a lightly-loaded ethernet.
>-Bennett
>bet@sbi.com
/ji
| 11sci.crypt |
jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
>There are a few things to keep in mind about Europe, since you brought
>it up. My Autobahn knowledge is admittedly second-hand, but I believe
>the following to be true:
My knowledge about driving in the U.S. is also second-hand, but I think I can
correct your statements about our Autobahn:
>1. Drivers are much better disciplined in Europe than they are here.
Oh yeah, that would be paradise... in fact, you can forget it. From all I've
heard from my U.S. relatives, drivers esp. here in Germany are much more agg-
ressive, but not disciplined. One of my relatives, a L.A. resident, hired a car
at the Nuernberg airport and went about 18 miles to our home. He said then that
he grew about 1 year older during this ride and swore he'd never drive a car in
Germany again (this was in 1982 and he kept his promise - the situation now is
even worse as effect of the increased volume of traffic).
What you mean by `better disciplined' should perhaps be considered `cautious due
to fear':
When driving around here, you always *have* to take into consideration that the
majority of the other drivers absolutely relies on you: They expect that nobody
fails or sleeps; many of them exploit this by driving as fast as their car can
go (of course only where that is allowed, you might think - dream on :).
So any mistake you make is a very high risk to your health - and if you're ex-
posed to such a situation from your very first day as a driver, you learn to
handle it - or you lose...
That's the way I and most people I know experience our traffic situation -
whether you think this is pleasant or efficient is up to you; I think we handle
a very high volume of traffic and that at high speeds with modest (compared to
the volume) and decreasing rates of lethal accidents - OTOH, more and more
people (esp. women) dislike driving (because they feel overtaxed and threatened)
and each accident is one accident too much.
>2. The roads comprising the Autobahn are much better designed than
> they are here, and usually include animal fences. This makes them
> far more predictable than most US highways.
Better designed and maintained, may be - but animal fences are very rare. Auto-
bahnen and many other streets have guard-rails (I hope that's the right word -
a plank made from thick steel sheet fixed on uprights; it's about 2 feet high);
those guard-rails are designed for keeping vehicles on the road. Smaller animals
can crawl under the plank, bigger ones can easily jump over it. The point is
that esp. larger animals are very rare in Germany; they tend also to be very
timid. Accidents caused by animals are a neglegible danger.
>3. Not all of Europe is the Autobahn. Most places in Europe have
> speed limits that aren't out-of-line with what we used to have in
> the US -- if my friends weren't lying to me they're typically not
> much higher than 120km/h.
You're right (there are speed linits even on the major part of the Autobahn) -
but the attitude towards driving (see above) seems to be very similar to that
in Germany (I've been in France, Switzerland, Italy, Austria, Spain, Belgium,
the Netherlands) - besides that, you really can't rely on the residents abiding
the local speed limits. I've got quite a lot of practise (~120k miles) and I'm
used to travel at 130 mph (FYI, with a car even smaller than a rabbit), but I
consider driving on the highways round Paris or Milano really a thrill...
>I strongly suspect you won't find a lot of Rabbit owners doing 120mph
>(nearly 200km/h) on the Autobahn, but I could be wrong. ...
Sorry, but you'll find quite a lot rabbit-class-car (or even smaller, mine is a
Peugeot 205) owners going that fast; small cars with much HP are very `hip' over
here - and most people buying such cars aren't afraid to let them run.
> ... Some people
>have no respect for their own lives.
I disagree; the size or weight of a car is rather irrelevant. Formula-1 cars
weigh less than 700 kg and the drivers have a chance to survive accidents at
130 mph or higher - OTOH when crashing against a solid object at 130 mph,
it makes no difference whether you sit in a Porsche, a Mercedes, a tank or on
a bicycle: Your're dead.
Bye,
Stefan
---
Stefan Dalibor (dalibor@immd3.uni-erlangen.de)
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"...And now for the next case in Kangaroo Court, I accuse you of being the
reincarnation of Adolf Hitler. I don't think that mere denials will be
sufficient -- you will have to submit to examinations by a parapsychologist
that I personally select..."
Perry Metzger (pmetzger@shearson.com) in Article 2074 in news.admin.policy
| 7rec.autos |
jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu wrote:
: You are loosing.
: There is no question about it.
: Of those who vote, your cause is considered an abomination. No matter
: how hard you try, public opinion is set against the RKBA.
Care to show some *real* numbers instead of something HCI make up?
I thought so, all "foaming at the mouth" shouting but nothing is
ever said...
: This is the end. By the finish of the Clinton administration, your
: RKBA will be null and void. Tough titty.
Well, we'll just have to wait and see about that, won't we? Or are
you quite satisified with living in your little fantasy?
< SNIP >
: cases of firearms abuses has ruined your cause. There is nothing you
< SNIP >
: The press is against you, the public (the voting public) is against
: you, the flow of history is against you ... this is it !
Not true, it is ONLY those who are ignorant and are afraid to understand,
accept, and deal with the real problems behind this violent society
who are proposing gun control as a band-aid solution. May be I should
refresh your memory with a quote from Prez. Clintion?
"It's the criminals, stupid!"
HEY, why is he cutting the budget for more prisons? May be someone need
to remind him of what he promised...on second thought, why bother...
: Surrender your arms. Soon enough, officers will be around to collect
: them. Resistance is useless. They will overwhelm you - one at a time.
: Your neighbors will not help you. They will consider you more if an
: immediate threat than the abstract 'criminal'.
Oooh, WACO II, coming to your living room soon... When was the last
time you turned off your TV? Can't remember? I thought so...
: Too fucking bad. You have gone the way of the KKK. Violent solutions
: are passe'. Avoid situations which encourage criminals. Then you will
: be as safe as possible. Such as it is ...
Wait, I got it, this is a late April fool post, right? I didn't
think ANYBODY is stupid enough to post something like this...good one
guys, this group was getting boring without Holly and Susan.
--Francis Chiu, Professional Student, Programmer, Tax Payer.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1qh336INNfl5@CS.UTK.EDU> larose@austin.cs.utk.edu (Brian LaRose) writes:
>This just a warning to EVERYBODY on the net. Watch out for
>folks standing NEXT to the road or on overpasses. They can
>cause SERIOUS HARM to you and your car.
>
>(just a cliff-notes version of my story follows)
>
>10pm last night, I was travelling on the interstate here in
>knoxville, I was taking an offramp exit to another interstate
>and my wife suddenly screamed and something LARGE hit the side
>of my truck. We slowed down, but after looking back to see the
>vandals standing there, we drove on to the police station.
>
>She did get a good look at the guy and saw him "cock his arm" with
>something the size of a cinderblock, BUT I never saw him. We are
>VERY lucky the truck sits up high on the road; if it would have hit
>her window, it would have killed her.
>
>The police are looking for the guy, but in all likelyhood he is gone.
Stuff deleted...
I am sorry to report that in Southern California it was a sick sport
for a while to drop concrete blocks from the overpasses onto the
freeway. Several persons were killed when said blocks came through
their windshields. Many overpass bridges are now fenced, and they
have made it illegal to loiter on such bridges (as if that would stop
such people). Yet many bridges are NOT fenced. I always look up at a
bridge while I still have time to take evasive action even though this
*sport* has not reached us here in Fresno.
___________________________________________________________________
Greg_Lewis@csufresno.edu
Photojournalism sequence, Department of Journalism
CSU Fresno, Fresno, CA 93740
| 7rec.autos |
In <C5y4t7.9w3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> George F. Krumins writes:
>It is so typical that the rights of the minority are extinguished by the
>wants of the majority, no matter how ridiculous those wants might be.
Umm, perhaps you could explain what 'rights' we are talking about
here ..
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Greg Nicholls ... : Vidi
nicho@vnet.ibm.com or : Vici
nicho@olympus.demon.co.uk : Veni
| 14sci.space |
In article <1psgs1$so4@access.digex.net>, prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
>|
>|The NASA habit of acquiring second-hand military aircraft and using
>|them for testbeds can make things kind of confusing. On the other
>|hand, all those second-hand Navy planes give our test pilots a chance
>|to fold the wings--something most pilots at Edwards Air Force Base
>|can't do.
>|
>
>What do you mean? Overstress the wings, and they fail at teh joints?
>
>You'll have to enlighten us in the hinterlands.
No, they fold on the dotted line. Look at pictures of carriers with loads of
a/c on the deck, wings all neatly folded.
--
Dillon Pyron | The opinions expressed are those of the
TI/DSEG Lewisville VAX Support | sender unless otherwise stated.
(214)462-3556 (when I'm here) |
(214)492-4656 (when I'm home) |God gave us weather so we wouldn't complain
pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com |about other things.
PADI DM-54909 |
| 14sci.space |
In <Apr.10.05.30.16.1993.14313@athos.rutgers.edu>
jemurray@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John E Murray) writes:
>I would like the opinion of netters on a subject that has been bothering my
>wife and me lately: liturgy, in particular, Catholic liturgy. In the last few
>years it seems that there are more and more ad hoc events during Mass. It's
>driving me crazy! The most grace-filled aspect of a liturgical tradition is
>that what happens is something we _all_ do together, because we all know how
>to do it. Led by the priest, of course, which makes it a kind of dialogue we
>present to God. But the best Masses I've been to were participatory prayers.
[ . . . ]
Having lived through the kicking and screaming in the 60s and 70s as the
Catholics were invited to participate in the liturgy instead of counting
their rosary beads during Mass, I find this comment interesting. There
is a _massively_ longer tradition for proclaiming the Passion accounts
without active participation. If you know the Latin, one really
beautiful way to hear the Passion is it's being chanted by three
deacons: the Narrator chants in the middle baritone range, Jesus chants
in the bass, and others directly quoted are handled by a high tenor.
This is actually the basis for the common proclamation of the Passion
that John would prefer.
But there is always a judgement call based on pastoral considerations.
Each pastor makes his own decisions (it isn't a church-wide conspiracy
against participation). The Palm Sunday liturgy, with its initial
blessing and distribution of the palms and procession, is already
getting long before you get to the Passion; some pastors feel that they
should not make the people stand through that long narrative. Also, the
orchestrated proclamation with multiple readers and public participation
in the crowd quotations runs longer than the single-reader proclamation
--- in churches with multiple Masses for the Sunday, it might be
necessary to go with the briefer options just to "get 'em in and get 'em
out".
Each parish is different. Catholics are no longer canonically tied to
their geographic parishes. It is possible that another Catholic parish
in the Columbus area (based on the Ohio State address) has a liturgy
closer to your preferences. Or talk to some of your fellow
parishioners and see how common your preferences are --- pastors
generally ARE willing to listen to non-confrontational requests. Though
you probably should bring along a paramedic in case he reacts too strongly
to the shock of people asked for a _longer_ Sunday Mass.
Perhaps the problem is that recent liturgical development hasn't follow
the continuous evolution model (the accumulation of small changes, no
single one of which is too hard to take) but rather the punctuated
equilibrium model (things stay the same and we get accustomed to them,
then the marked mutation hits). {My apologies if I am mis-remembering
the names of the evolutionary theories.}
--
--- Tim Rolfe
rolfe@dsuvax.dsu.edu
rolfe@junior.dsu.edu
RolfeT@columbia.dsu.edu
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <strnlghtC5toC6.KIu@netcom.com>, strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
> ...
> The Federal Reserve Open Market Committee
> has successfully kept decisions from leaking for the statutory period until
> publication.
How are you sure of that? Weren't there some recent studies that
found corelations between not-yet announced decisions and market changes?
Aren't there continuing early rumors of their deliberations?
> Even the Department of Agriculture has successfully kept crop
> forecasts from leaking prematurely.
Sheesh! Remember the big scandal a year or two (or 3?) ago about
exactly such leaks?
Vernon Schryver, vjs@sgi.com
| 11sci.crypt |
Hello,
Below I have the copy of some source I am using to setup a user-specified color-
map for X R11 V4. I am attempting to create user defined colors in terms of
RGB color ranges. The calls to XAllocColor prove ineffective.
Variables are defined are as follows:
int i, j, k, lut_index
color_type min_image, max_image;
color_type image Pixel_Value_Range, last_image, start, end, jump,
lut [ 512 ];
unsigned long pixel;
double red, green, blue;
/*
* Data structure used by color operations
*
typedef struct {
unsigned long pixel;
unsigned short red, green, blue;
char flags; /-* do_red, do_green, do_blue *-/
char pad;
} XColor;
***************/
XColor rgbcolor, hardwarecolor;
With color_type defined as { double red, double green, double blue }.
What I need to know is how to set [is it possible] the values in hardwarecolor
to work within the call to XAllocColor:
start.red = (int) 255 * min_image.red; /* 0..255 */
end.red = (int) 255 * max_image.red; /* 0..255 */
jump.red = (int) (( end.red - start.red ) / 7);
start.green = (int) 255 * min_image.green; /* 0..255 */
end.green = (int) 255 * max_image.green; /* 0..255 */
jump.green = (int) (( end.green - start.green ) / 7);
start.blue = (int) 255 * min_image.blue; /* 0..255 */
end.blue = (int) 255 * max_image.blue; /* 0..255 */
jump.blue = (int) (( end.blue - start.blue ) / 7);
lut_index = 0;
for (i=0; i<8; i++)
for (j=0; j<8; j++)
for (k=0; k<8; k++)
{
if ( i == 0 || jump.red < 1 )
lut [ lut_index ].red = start.red;
else
lut [ lut_index ].red = jump.red * i - 1;
if ( j == 0 || jump.green < 1 )
lut [ lut_index ].green = start.green;
else
lut [ lut_index ].green = jump.green * j - 1;
if ( k == 0 || jump.blue < 1 )
lut [ lut_index ].blue = start.blue;
else
lut [ lut_index ].blue = jump.blue* k - 1;
hardwarecolor.red = (short) lut [ lut_index ].red;
hardwarecolor.green = (short) lut [ lut_index ].green;
hardwarecolor.blue = (short) lut [ lut_index ].blue;
hardwarecolor.pixel = lut_index;
printf("HW1: i = %d : %d %d %d: pixel = %d \n", lut_index, hardwarecolor.red,
hardwarecolor.green, hardwarecolor.blue, hardwarecolor.pixel );
status = XAllocColor ( dpy, colormap, &hardwarecolor );
printf("HW2: i = %d: %d %d %d: pixel = %d \n", lut_index, hardwarecolor.red,
hardwarecolor.green, hardwarecolor.blue, hardwarecolor.pixel );
if ( status != 0 )
{
XSetForeground ( dpy, gc, hardwarecolor.pixel );
XFillRectangle ( dpy, win, gc, 1, 1, MAXCOLUMN, MAXROW );
XFlush ( dpy );
sleep (10);
printf("%d: %f %f %f at %d \n", lut_index, lut [ lut_index ].re
lut [ lut_index ].green, lut [ lut_index ].blue,
hardwarecolor.pixel );
}
lut_index = lut_index + 1;
}
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me with this problem.
Sincerely,
John F. Duggan
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
John F. Duggan alias :Genghis Khan
Engineering Computer Services, internet : DUGGAN@ecs.umass.edu
Univ. of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003 Bitnet : DUGGAN@umaecs
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <Stafford-210493125617@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.Edu (John Stafford) writes:
>In article <wrs.4180@wslack.UUCP>, wrs@wslack.UUCP (Bill Slack) wrote:
>
>> Uh, folks, the shaft doesn't have diddleysquatpoop to do with it. I can get
>> the front wheel off the ground on my /5, ferchrissake!
>
> The statement above is _true_ to the spirit of the list because
> it is a false statement. Misinformation: that's the spirit, Bill.
>
> My /5 will do wheelies because it's a chain drive model.
>
>====================================================
>John Stafford Minnesota State University @ Winona
> All standard disclaimers apply.
I knew when I posted that I was going to get into trouble. Now I suppose I
have to give /5 wheelie demos at the Spring Fling or something.
But you're right, John, it is a chain drive model. I think it goes around
the camshaft and up over the rocker arms or something. Stolen from an early
Spagthorpe design, according to urban legend.
Bill
__
wrs@gozer.mv.com (Bill Slack) DoD #430
But her tears were shed in vain and her every word was lost
In the rumble of his engine and the smoke from his exhaust! Oo..o&o
| 8rec.motorcycles |
You mena in the same way french intelliegence agents steal
documents from US corporate executives?
pat
| 14sci.space |
jhan@debra.dgbt.doc.ca (Jerry Han) writes:
> The point of the matter is that; yes this is a serious problem. But it is
> not the end of the world. Guess what? We're doing something now you
> can't do in a Communist country or Nazi Germany.
Or John Edgar Hoover's USA.
> We're complaining about
> it, (or rather, you're complaining about it) and nobody is shooting at us.
yet.
> GUESS WHAT PEOPLE? You live in one of the few countries in the world
> where a person can complain without getting shot at.
yet.
> People are always complaining that somebody did this wrong, or somebody
> did that wrong, or whatever. Sit down and figure out two things:
>
> 1) What have they done right?
> 2) How much worse can it get?
>
> And you'll find that you and I, are pretty damn lucky.
so far.
> So let's talk about it, get some action going, decide what's going on.
> But let's not overreact!
What harm is there in overreacting?
This may be the largest single threat to civil liberties yet in my
lifetime. The US has done some pretty heinous things in the past,
and we haven't yet recovered from all of them. There certainly seems
to be a historical trend towards less liberty, with occasional
perturbations.
Time to break out the quotes from American political radicals.
Lyle Transarc 707 Grant Street
412 338 4474 The Gulf Tower Pittsburgh 15219
There are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the
people by the gradual and silent encroachment of those in power,
than by violent and sudden usurpation. -- James Madison
| 11sci.crypt |
In <May.10.05.07.27.1993.3488@athos.rutgers.edu> mdw33310@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael D. Walker) writes:
> That last paragraph just about killed me. The Deuterocanonicals have
> ALWAYS been accepted as inspired scripture by the Catholic Church,
> which has existed much longer than any Protestant Church out there.
> It was Martin Luther who began hacking up the bible and deciding to
> REMOVE certain books--not the fact that the Catholic Church decided
> to add some much later--that is the reason for the difference between
> "Catholic" and "Protestant" bibles.
This is misleading, at best. The question, really, has to do with the
status of the Greek Septuagint versus Hebrew scripture. And the issue
predates the Reformation by quite a bit -- Jerome was negative about the
"deuteroncanonicals" and in fact, even though he transalted them, he put
them after the Hebrew canon (reordered from the Greek ordering to the
Hebrew one.) His translations of them were quick-and-dirty, also (he
reports having done one of them in one day, and another overnight, just
dictating his translation to an amanuensis.
That is to say, it is the Vulgate, and all of its massive importance in
Western Christianity, along with the veneration of Jerome, which took the
first steps in "reducing" these books from the status they had (and have)
among the Greeks.
Furthermore, it is inaccurate to say that the Reformers "threw out" these
books. Basically, they just placed them in a secondary status (as Jerome
had already done), but with the additional warning that doctrine should
not be based on citations from these ALONE.
I think that the emphasis on the Hebrew originals is sound, though it
seems somewhat arbitrary to disallow on the face of it a translation as
part of a collection whose principles of selection (in Hebrew or Greek)
are confused or unknown and likely fraught with accident. It also seems
to play into a tendentious notion of the original languages being somehow
"more inspired" -- as if magical, and conveying a message untranslatable
-- than a translation, as if we could not hear God's word to the Jews in
Greek (or German, or English, ...). This tendency seems to have got a
big boost in _sola scriptura_ Protestantism, even to the point of current
"inerrancy" bizarreness, despite the more basic, underlying tendency of
the Reformers to see that the texts SHOULD and COULD be translated. If
we can profit from an English rendering of Hebrew and Greek, there is
surely little reason to keep Sirach, at least, out of our Bibles (and of
course, Anglicans don't do so :-)). For texts originally in Greek, it
would seem more to be anti-Greek prejudice (notably, by the time the
Hebrew canon is fully attested, including anti-Christian prejudice which
led to the Jewish abandonment of the Septuagint) which is operative.
BTW: readers may enjoy some lectures of Bruce Metzger on the issues of
translation of the Bible (including some of what I said about Jerome,
above) in the current numbers of the journal _Bibliotheca Sacra_; two
of four have been published so far.
--
Michael L. Siemon I say "You are gods, sons of the
mls@panix.com Most High, all of you; nevertheless
- or - you shall die like men, and fall
mls@ulysses.att..com like any prince." Psalm 82:6-7
| 15soc.religion.christian |
I'm not sure if this made it out so i'll try again.
I have an Ecklar's (sp?) Corvette car cover for sale. The cover is canvas
on the outside and felt on the inside. It is weather proof and in great
condition. I'm asking $95.00 and I'll pay shipping. (originally $175.00
in October of 1992).
Carl Mercer
cm@cci.com
(716) 359-0895 evening
(716) 654-2652 day
| 7rec.autos |
Article 31 of alt.graphics:
Newsgroups: alt.graphics
Path: news.nd.edu!moliere!rmalayte
From: rmalayte@moliere.helios.nd.edu (ryan malayter)
Subject: GeoSphere images via ftp?
Message-ID: <1993Apr26.213648.26856@news.nd.edu>
Sender: news@news.nd.edu (USENET News System)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1993 21:36:48 GMT
Does anyone know if a digitized version of the GeoSphere image is
available via ftp? For those of you who don't know, it is a composite
photograph of the entire earth, with cloudcover removed. I just think
it's really cool. It was created with government funds and sattelites
as a research project, so I would assume it's in the public domain.
Thanks for any info,
Ryan
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continuing part #4 (I think); used by permission,
THE SOURCE AND NT MEANING
OF ARSENOKOITAI, WITH IMPLICATIONS
FOR CHRISTIAN ETHICS AND MINISTRY
James B. DeYoung
W. Petersen
More recently Wright's understanding has itself been questioned from a
different direction. In a brief 1986 study William Petersen found linguistic
confusion in using the English word "homosexuals" as the meaning of
arsenokoitai.[22] He faulted Wright and English Bible translaions for
rendering it by "homosexuals" in I Cor 6:9 and I Tim 1:10.
In a sense Petersen has coalesced Bailey, Boswell, and Scroggs into a
single assertion that reiterates, in effect, the position of Bailey. He finds
"homosexuals" unacceptable as a translation because it is anachronistic. "A
major disjunction" exists between contemporary thought and terminology and the
thought and terminolgy in Paul's time (187-88).
What is this "disjunction"? He bases it on historical and linguistic
facts. Accordingly, ancient Greek and Roman society treated male sexuality as
polyvalent and characterized a person sexually only by his sexual acts.
Virtually all forms of behavior, except transvestism, were acceptable.
Christianity simply added the categories of "natural" and "unnatural" in
describing these actions. Ancient society know nothing of the categories of
"homosexuals" and "heterosexuals," and assumed that, in the words of Dover
quoted approvingly by Petersen, "everyone responds at different times to both
homosexual and to heterosexual stimuli. . ." (188). [23]
In contrast to this, modern usage virtually limits the term "homosexual"
to desire and propensity. K.M. Benkert, who in 1869 coined the German term
equivalent to "homosexual," used it as referring to orientation, impluse or
affectional preference and having "nothing to do with sexual acts" (189).
Petersen then proceeds to cite the "Supplement to the Oxford English
Dictionary," which defines "homosexual" only as a propensity or desire with no
mention of acts. Petersen's point is that by using "homosexuals" for
arsenokoitai, one wrongfully reads a modern concept back into early history
"where no equivalent concept existed" (189). Consequently the translation is
inaccurate because it "includes celibate homophiles,. . . . incorrectly exludes
heterosexuals who engage in homosexual acts . . . [and]incorrectly includes
female homosexuals" (19=89). Prior to 1869 there was no "cognitive structure,
either inour society or in antiquity, within which the modern bifurcation of
humanity into 'homosexuals' and 'hetersosexuals' made sence" (189).
The foregoing clarifies why Petersen feels that the translatio
"homosexual" is mistaken. Yet is it possible that Petersen is the one
mistaken, on both historical and linguistic or philological grounds? The next
phases of this paper will critically examine Petersen's position.
THE JUSTIFICATION FOR TRANSLATING
ARSENOKOITAI BY "HOMOSEXUALS"
Historical Grounds
A refutation of the foregoing opposition to the traslation of arsenokoitai
by "homosexuals" begins with the historical and cultural evidence. Since
virtually everyone acknowledges that the word does not appear before Paul's
usage, no historical settings earlier than his are available. Yet much writing
reveals that ancient understanding of homosexuality prior to and contemporary
with Paul. The goal is to discover wheither the ancient s conceived of
homosexuality, particularly homosexual orientation, in a way similar to
present-day concepts.
Peterson, Bailey, Boswell, and Scroggs claim that the homosexual
condition, desire, propensity, or inversion -whatever it is called- cannot be
part of the definition of the term. They assert this either because the term
is limited to acts of particular kind (Boswell, active male prostitutes;
Scroggs, pederasty) or because the homosexual condition was unknown in ancient
times (Bailey; Petersen). The following discussion will show why neither of
these positions is legitimate. Attention will be devoted to the latter postion
first with the former one being addressed below under "Linguistic Grounds."
In regard to the latter position, one may rightfully ask, did not the
homosexual condition exist before 1869? Is it only a modern phenomenon? Yet if
it is universal, as alleged today, it must have existed always including
ancient times, even though there is lack of sophistication in discussing it.
Indeed, evidence show that the ancients, pre-Christian and Christian, not only
knew about the total spectrum of sexual behavior, including all forms of
same-sex activity (transvestism included), but also knoew about same-sex
orientation or condition. Petersen admits (190 n. 10) that Plato in
"Symposium" (189d-192d) may be a "sole possible exception" to ancient
ingnorance of this condition. He discounts this, however, believing that even
here "acts appear to be the deciding factor." However, this is a very
significant exception, hardly worthy of being called "an exception," because of
the following additional evidence for a homosexual condition.
THe "Symposium" of Plato gives some of the strongest evidence for
knowledge about the homosexual condition. [24] Plato posits a third sex
comprised of a maile-female (androgynon ("man-woman"). Hence "original nature"
palai physis, consisted of three kinds of human beings. Zeus sliced these
human beings in half, to weaken them so that they would not be a threat to the
gods. Consequently each person seeks his or her other half, either one of the
opposite sex or one of the same sex. Plato then quotes Aristophances:
Each of us, then, is but a tally of a man, since every one shows like
a flatfish the traces of having been sliced in two; and each is ever
searching for the tally that will fit him. All the men who are sections
of that composite sex that at first was called man-woman are
woman-courters; our adulterers are mostly descended from that sex,
whence likewise are derived our mancourting women and adulteresses.
All the women who are sections of the woman have no great fancy for men:
they are incllined rather to women, and of this stock are the she-minions.
Men who are sections of the male pursue the masculine, and so long as
their boyhood lasts they show themselves to be sliced of the male by
making griends with men and delighting to lie with them and to be
clasped in men's embrasces; these are the finest boys and striplings,
for they have the most manly nature. Some say they are shameless
creatures, but falsely: for their behavior is due not to shamelessness
but to daring, manliness, and virility, since they are quick to welcome
their like. Sure evidence of this is the fact that on reaching maturity
these alone prove in a public career to be men. So when they come
to man's estate they are boy-lovers, and have no natural interest in
wiving and getting children but only do these things under stress of
custom; they are quite contented to live together unwedded all their days.
A man of this sort is at any rate born to be a lover of boys or the
willing mate of a man, eagerly greeting his own kind. Well, when
one of them -whether he be a boy-lover or a lover of any other sort-
happens on his own particular half, the two of them are wondrously
thrilled with affection and intimacy and love, and are hardly to be
induced to leave each other's side for a single moment. These are
they who continue together throughout life, though they could not
even say what they would have of one another (191d-192c) [25]
Should these two persons be offered the opportunity to be fused together for as
long as they live, or even in Hades, Aristophanes says that each "would
unreservedly deem that he had been offered just what he was yearning for all
the time: (192e).
Several observations about this text are in order. Lesbianism is
contemplated, as will as male homosexuality (191e). "Natural interest" (ton
noun physei), (192b) refelects modern concepts of propensity or inclination.
The words, "born to be a lover of boys or the willing mate of a man:
(paiderastes te kai philerastes gignetai), (192b) reflect the modern claims "to
be born this," i.e., as homosexual. The idea of mutuallity ("the two of them
are wondrously thrilled with affection and intimacy and love," 192b) is
present. Aristophanes even speaks of "mutual love ingrained in mankind
reassembling our early estate" (ho eros emphytos allelon tois anthropois kai
tes archaias physeos synagogeus, 191d). The concept of permanency ("These are
they who continue together throughout life," 102c) is also present. Further
mention of and/or allusion to permanecy, mutality, "gay pride," pederasty,
homophobia, motive, desire, passion, and the nature of love and its works is
recognizable.
Clearly the ancients thought of love (homosexual or other) apart from
actions. THe speakers in the Symposium argue that motive in homosexuality is
crucial; money, office, influence, etc. . . bring reproach (182e-183a, 184b).
They mention the need to love the soul not the body (183e). There are tow
kinds of love in the body (186b) and each has its "desire" and "passion"
(186b-d). The speakers discuss the principles or "matters" of love (187c), the
desires of love (192c) and being "males by nature" (193c). Noteworthy is the
speech of Socrates who devotes much attention to explaining how desire is
related to love and its objects (200a-201c). Desire is felt for "what is not
provided or present; for something they have not or are not or lack." This is
the object of desire and love. Socrates clearly distinguishes between "what
sort of being is love" and the "works" of love (201e). This ancient
philosopher could think of both realms -seaual acts as well as disposition of
being or nature. His wors have significance for more than pederasty. [26]
In summary, virtually every element in the modern discussion of love and
homosexuality is anticipated in the Symposium of Plato. Petersen is in error
when he claims that the ancients could only think of homosexual acts, not
inclination or orientation. Widespread evidence to the contray supports the
latter. [27]
Biblical support for homosexuality inclination in the contexts where
homosexual acts are discribed adds to the case for the ancient distinction. In
Rom 1:21-28 such phrases as "reasoning," "heart," "becoming foolish," "desires
of the heart." and "reprobate mind" prove Paul's concern for disposition and
inclination along with the "doing" or "working" of evil (also see vv. 29-32).
Even the catologues of vices are introdiced (I Tim 1:8-10) or concluded (I Cor
6:9-11) by words describing what people "are" or "were," not what they "do."
Habits betray what people are within, as also the Lord Jesus taught (cf. Matt.
23:28). The inner condition is as important as the outer act; one gives rise
to the other (cf. Mt 5:27).
Petersen errs regarding other particulars too. Transvestism apparently
was accepted by the ancients. It was practiced among Canaaniteds, Syrian,
people of Asia Minor, as well as Greeks, according to S.R. Driver. [28] Only a
few moralist and Jewish writers are on record as condemning it. For example,
Seneca (Moral Epistles 47.7-8) condemns homosexual exploitation that forces an
adult slave to dress, be beardless, and behave as a woman. Philo also goes to
some length to describe the homosexuals of his day and their dressing as women
(The Special Laws III, 37-41; see also his On the Virtues, 20-21, where he
justifies prohibition of cross-dressing). Even the OT forbade the interchange
of clothing between the sexes (Deut 22:5).
Petersen is also wrong in attributing to Christianity the creating of the
"new labels" of "natural" and "unnatural" for sexual behavior. These did not
begin with Paul (Rom 1:26-27) but go as far back as ancient Greece and even
non-Christian contemporaries used them. Plato, the TEST.NAPH., Philo, Josephu,
Plutarch, and others used these words or related concepts. [29]
Linguistic Grounds
footnotes
___________________________
22 W.L. Petersen, "Can ARSENOKOITAI Be Translated by 'Homosexuals'? (I Cor
6:9; I Tim 1:10)" VC 40 (1986): 187-91.
23 K.J. Dover, Greek Homosexuality (Cambridge, Harvard Univ, 1978) 1 n. 1.
24 We are conscious of the fact that Plato's writings may not reflect
Athenian society, or that the speakers in "Symposium" may not reflect Plato's
view. However, it is assumed that they do, and with this agrees Dover
(Homosexuality 12) and other evidence cited below
25 The translation is that of W.R.M. Lamb, Plato: Symposioum LCL (Cambridge:
Harvard Univ, 1967) 141-143. Note the reference to "adulteress." If there is
a homosexual condition derived from birth or the genes, logically there must
also be an adulterous conditon derived from birth.
26 Elsewhere in the Symposium we are told that it is the heavenly love to love
the male and young men (181c) but this must not be love for boys too young;
the latter should be outlawed (181d-e). Such love of youths is to be permanent
(181d), lifelong and abiding (184a). Where homosexual love is considered a
disgrace, such an attitude is due to encroachments of the rulers and to the
cowardice of the ruled (182d -an early charge of "homophobia"?). In Athens it
was "more honorable to love openly than in secret" (182d -an ancient expression
of "coming out of the closet"). Mutality was present ("this compels lover and
beloved alike to feel a zealous concern for their own virtue," 184b).
For Petersen to label the Symposium a "possible" exception to his position
is inadequate and misrepresentative. It is a significant witness to Greek
society hundreds of years before the time of Christ.
27 Dover (Homosexuality 12, 60-68) finds homosexual desire and orientation in
Plato's works (Symposioum and Phaedrus) and elsewhere. Philo writes of those
who "habituate themselves" to the practive of homosexual acts (The Special Laws
3.37-42; cf. De Vita Contemplativa 59-63). Josephus says that homosexuality
had become a fixed habit for some (Against Apion 2.273-75) Clement of
Alexandria on Matt. 19:12 writes the "some men, from birth, fhave a natural
aversion to a woman; and indeed those who are naturally so consitited do well
not to marry" (Miscellanies 3:1) It is addressed in Novella 141 of Justinian's
Codex of laws (it referes to those "who have been consumed by this disease" as
in need of renouncing "there plague," as well as acts). Pseudo Lucian (Erostes
48) and Achilles Tatius (Leucippe and Clitophon II.38) speak of it. Finally
Thucydides 2.45.2 has: "Great is you glory if you fall not below the standard
which nature has set for your sex."
Boswell (Christianity 81-87) cites poets (Juvenal, Ovid), witers
(Martial), statesmen (Cicero), and others who describe permanent, mutual
homosexual relationships, even marriages. Even emperors could be either
gay-married (Nero) or exlusively gay (Hadrian), Boswell says. Scroggs
(Homosexuality 28, 32-34) admits that both inversion and perversion must have
existed in the past. He discusses possible references to adult mutual
homosexual and lesbian relationships, but dismisses them (130-44).
28 See specifics in S.R. Driver A critical and Exegetical Commentary on
Deuteronomy (Edinburgh:1895) 250. He observes that the prohibition of
cross-dressing in Deut. 22:5 is not a "mere rule of conventional propriety."
See also Dover, Homosexuality 73-76, 144.
29 Plato in his last work, in which he seeks to show how to have a virtuous
citizen, condemned pederasty and marriage between men as "against nature" (para
phosin)(Laws 636a-b; 636c; 836a-c; 838; 841d-e). According to TEST.NAPH
3:4-5 the sodomites changed the "order of nature." THe Jewish writers, Philo
(On Abraham 135-137) and Josephus (Ant. 1.322; 3.261, 275; Ag. Ap. 2.199;
2.273, 275) label sexual deviation as "against nature." Finally,, first
century moralist such as Plutarch (Dianlogue on Love 751c-e; 752b-c) spoke of
homosexuality as "against nature." Christians clearly did not invent the
labels "natural" and "unnatural". See J.B. De Young, "The Meaning of 'Nature'
in Romans 1 and Its Implications for Biblical Prosecriptions of Homosexual
Behavior" JETS 31/4 (Dec 1988):429-41.
| 15soc.religion.christian |
I have a mac LCII 4/80 purchased last august.
Just the cpu and mouse... no monitor or keyboard.
$800 OBO
--
Peter White
pw4963@csc.albany.edu
pwhite@mac.archive.umich.edu
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <1r19l9$7dv@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> oldham@ces.cwru.edu (Daniel Oldham) writes:
>What happened in Waco is not the fault of the BATF. If they would of
>had the proper equipment and personal then they could of captured the
>compound on the initial assault and none of this would of happened.
>
>The BATF needs more people, better weapons and more armored
>transports. When they meet hostile fire they should be able to use
>more force instead of retreating to a stand off. If you are going to
>do a job then do it right. The BATF is there to protect us and they
>must have the proper equipment and people to do the job.
>
>With the WoD and the increased crime in the streets the BATF is needed
>more now then ever. If they blast away a few good fokes then that is
>the price we all have to pay for law and order in this country. Look
>at all the good people that died in wars to protect this great country
>of ours.
>
>With the arms build up in Waco they needed to hit that compound with
>mega fire power. They could of gone in there blasting and killed a few
>women and kids but it would of been better then letting them all burn
>to death 51 days later.
>
Well, it's said that people get the government they deserve.
Don't worry, you'll get yours. You'll sleep much better when
everyone with thoughts not on the government 'approved' list
is rounded up and executed.
Julie
DISCLAIMER: All opinions here belong to my cat and no one else
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Word 2.0c doesn't show the period-centred character to indicate
spaces if I use the TTFonts from CorelDraw. Our editors need to
be able to see how many spaces are in text but the character
displayed is a large hollow box. They overlap each other and
characters on each side, which is useless.
I believe the character used by W4W is the period-centred (0183).
This character shows up with the windows Charmap display as the
hollow box which tends to confirm this. I have edited the corel
font with Fontmonger and changing the font graphics for the 0183
character makes no difference to the font output in Charmap or W4W.
Altering the paragraph (0182) or cedilla (0184) does alter their font
graphics displayed however!!
Is the W4W character used to indicate spaces the period-centred character?
Has anyone been able to get this character displayed from a CorelDraw TTF?
--
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Deakin University, School of Engineering & Technology, Geelong, Australia \/
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
I just purchased a Viewsonic 17 and and Orchid P9000. In short, I am happy
with the monitor and unhappy with the card. I have spent a lot more time
futzing with the card, so that is what I am going to write about. The monitor
is pretty. The moires I had under Simcity on my 17" Magnavox went away. It
isn't as heavy as I thought it would be (45 lbs, I think). So much for the
monitor. On to the bitch session and test results.
In going with the modern trend, the Orchid P9000 card only supports 16 colors
in 640x480 mode without a driver. Of course, this breaks any DOS program
which uses SVGA modes (like most of my CD-ROMs). The Compudyne Whiplash VGA,
Orchid Fahrenheit 1280, and Orchid F. VLB all share this limitation. Those
are all S3 cards, which means it is an S3 problem for them (the P9000 uses
a Weitek VGA chip which also doesn't support them). The Hercules Graphite
card does seem to have these modes, but I didn't run the same test cases as
I did on the other boards during the brief time I had it. It was able to
print the splash screen for the Grolier's Encyclopedia, though, which the S3
cards just printed as hash, which is why I suspect the SVGA modes are supported.
The supported resolutions really annoy me. You can do 1280x1024 at 75Hz if
you tell the driver you have an NEC 5FG (they only have about six monitors
listed plus 'Generic', and if you choose Generic you can't get any high
refreshes at ALL). But at 1024x768 you are limited to 70Hz. Seems to me
that the hardware should be able to support the bandwidth (if it can do 75Hz
at 1280 it sure should be able to do it at 1024!). Higher vertical resolution
was the main reason I bought the card over the Orchid F. VLB I currently have,
and it will do 1024x768x70 Hz as well.
The higher graphics modes all crash HP Dashboard. I just got off the phone
with Orchid, and with the 1.1 drivers (I don't know what I have) he was unable
to recreate the problem. On the plus side, their tech rep was as helpful as
he could be and booted up the program on his computer to verify he didn't have
the problem. He didn't know why they limited the refresh to 70 Hz either.
The board is faster that the OFVLB for most things according to the Hercules
Speedy program. This program tests various operations and reports the results
in pixels/second. I don't have the numbers for the Graphite card, but they
were close to half of the OFVLB (ie, slower) but that was running in a 20MHz
386, ISA, so the numbers aren't really comparable. The following numbers
were all obtained using a 486, 33 MHz, AIR motherboard (UMC chipset), with
8 MB memory. I give ranges because the program reports the numbers as it
computes them, and these tend to jump around a bit.
K means thousand (not 1024), M means million, pixels per second
Orchid Fahrenheit VLB Orchid P9000
Chip S3 805 Weitek 9000
DIB to Screen 182K - 190K 228K - 240K
Memory to Screen 5.9M - 6.2M 8.4M - 8.9M
Screen to Screen 14M - 14.8M 29M - 30.8M
Vector, solid 2.4M 2.8M - 2.9M
Vector, styled 55K - 58K 449K - 473K
Polygon, shaded 1.8M - 2.1M 1.6M - 1.9M
Polygon, hatched 6.9M - 7.9M 1.3M - 1.7M
Ternary Rops 1.9M - 2.4M 477K - 520K
Font 130K - 160K 46K - 55K / 1.2M
The DIB to Screen test takes a device independent bitmap of a face and transfers
it to the screen. I have no idea what is being done internally as far as
conversions go. The memory to screen takes the same face and copies it to
the screen, my guess is after it has been rasterized into a bitmap that can
just be copied to the video display. The screen to screen test copies that
face from place to place on the screen. Awesome! Interestingly, the solid
vectors and shaded polygons show no improvement, and hatched polygons (ie,
filled with cross-hatching) and Ternary Rops (whatever they are. Graphics
operations like XORs maybe????) are a dead loss on the 9000. I give two
numbers for the 9000 fonts, because I think they are caching.
When the fonts are first drawn on the screen they are done fairly slowly --
1/3 the speed of the OFVLB. Then the speed increases dramatically. Sounds
like programming to a benchmark to me....
I make no claims that these numbers mean anything at all. Its just what
I saw when I ran them on my computer. I normally don't write disclaimers,
but this time maybe I'd better. My testing is totally unconnected with my
work (I program under UNIX on Decstations) is done completely without the
knowledge, blessing, or equipment of my company.
geoff sherwood
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <C5H7qz.KyA@boi.hp.com>, wesf@boi.hp.com (Wes Fujii) writes:
|> Brian LaRose (larose@austin.cs.utk.edu) wrote:
|>
|> : I never saw the guy. The police said they thought the motive was to
|> : hit the car, have us STOP to check out the damage, and then JUMP US,
|> : and take the truck.
|> :
|> : PLEASE BE AWARE OF FOLKS. AND FOR YOUR OWN GOOD, PLEASE DON'T STOP!!!!
|>
|> Sad. This sort of thing is on the rise across the country. South Florida
|> is getting a lot of national TV coverage on the subject where vacationers
|> are being attacked (and some killed) in schemes similar to this.
Make that worldwide coverage. I know numerous people who were planning
holidays to the Florida, and have now chosen another (non-US)
destination. You expect this sort of thing, perhaps, in third world
countries - but not the US!
kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch
| 7rec.autos |
Anyone know what would cause my IIcx to not turn on when I hit the keyboard
switch? The one in the back of the machine doesn't work either...
The only way I can turn it on is to unplug the machine for a few minutes,
then plug it back in and hit the power switch in the back immediately...
Sometimes this doesn't even work for a long time...
I remember hearing about this problem a long time ago, and that a logic
board failure was mentioned as the source of the problem...is this true?
Thanks,
T.J. Pilon
pilon@rpi.edu
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <1993Apr16.155919.28040@cs.rochester.edu>, fulk@cs.rochester.edu (Mark Fulk) writes:
|> Flights of fancy, and other irrational approaches, are common. The crucial
|> thing is not to sit around just having fantasies; they aren't of any use
|> unless they make you do some experiments. I've known a lot of scientists
|> whose fantasies lead them on to creative work; usually they won't admit
|> out loud what the fantasy was, prior to the consumption of a few beers.
|>
|> (Simple example: Warren Jelinek noticed an extremely heavy band on a DNA
|> electrophoresis gel of human ALU fragments. He got very excited, hoping that
|> he'd seen some essential part of the control mechanism for eukaryotic
|> genes. This fantasy led him to sequence samples of the band and carry out
|> binding assays. The result was a well-conserved, 400 or so bp, sequence
But why do you characterize this as a "flight of fancy" or a "fantasy"?
While I am unfamiliar with the scientific context here, it appears obvious
that his speculation (for lack of a better or more neutral word) was
at least in significant part a consequence of his knowledge of and acceptance
of current theory coupled with his observations. It would appear that
something quite rational was going on as he attempted to fit his observation
into that theory (or to tailor the theory to cover the observation). This
does not seem like an example of what most would normally call a flight of
fancy or a fantasy.
|>
|> It is not clear to me what you mean by rational vs. irrational. Perhaps
|> you can give a few examples of surprising experiments that were tried out
|> for perfectly rational reasons, or interesting new theories that were first
|> advanced from logical grounds. The main examples I can think of are from
|> modern high-energy physics which is not typical of science as a whole.
Well, I think someone else in this thread was the first to use the word (also,
"extra-scientific", etc.). Nor am I prepared to give a general account of
rationality. In terms of examples, there is some danger of beginning to quibble
over what a "surprising" experiment is, what counts as "surprising", etc.
The same may be said about "logical grounds". My point is that quite frequently
(perhaps even most frequently) the roots of a new theory can be traced to
previously existing theories (or even to previously rejected hypotheses of
some other theory or domain). I would offer some rather well known examples
such as Toricelli's Puy de Dome experiment done for the sake of his "sea of air"
hypothesis. Was this theory (and the resulting experimental test) "surprising"?
Well, given the *prior* explanations of the phenomena involved it certainly must
be counted as so. Was the theory constructed (and the experiment designed)
out of "perfectly rational grounds"? Well, there was a pretty successful and
well know theory of fluids. The analogy to fluids by Toricelli is explicit.
The novelty was in thinking of air as a fluid (but this was *quite* a novelty
at the time). Was the theory interesting? Yes. Was it "new"? Well, one
could argue that it was merely the extension of an existing theory to a new
domain, but I think this begs certain questions. We can debate that if you
like.
--
Gary H. Merrill [Principal Systems Developer, C Compiler Development]
SAS Institute Inc. / SAS Campus Dr. / Cary, NC 27513 / (919) 677-8000
sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com ... !mcnc!sas!sasghm
| 13sci.med |
Hello,
I have some problem in converting tga file(generated by POVray) to
rle file. When I convert, I do not get any warning message. But
if I use xloadimage/getx11, something is wrong.
Error messages are,
% targatorle -o o.rle data.tga
% xloadimage o.rle
o.rle is a 0x0 24 bit RLE image with no map (will dither to 8 bits), with gamma of 1.00
Dithering image...done
Building XImage...done
xloadimage: X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) on 0x0
xloadimage: X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) on 0xb00003
......
I know that I need to install ppmtorle and tgatoppm, but I do not spend
time to install them. Even I do not want to generate .rgb from POVray
and then convert them to rle, if possible.(.rgb to rle works, but
it will mess up my directory with so many files, and it needs 2 more
steps to finally convert to rle file. say cat | rawtorle | rleflip )
Does any body out there have same experience/problems ?
Thanks in advance,
---
J. Park
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <1rmh4eINN95h@gap.caltech.edu> kwp@wag.caltech.edu (Kevin W. Plaxco) writes:
> resolving power of the optics. BATSE is an altogether different
> beast, effectively just 8 coincidence counters, one on each corner of
> the craft. Positional information is triangulated from the
> differential signal arrival times at each of the detectors.
Obviously not. Count rates are too low and signal rise times too long
for this to be possible. The CGRO, is, what, 10 meters long? You'd
need to time to an accuracy of nanoseconds to do this.
What BATSE actually does is measure the relative strength in each of
the detectors (also as a function of photon energy). Each of the
detectors does not have isotropic response. To do this right one must
model the scattering of photons in the material around each detector,
and even scattering of photons off the Earth's atmosphere back onto
the spacecraft. I believe they have now reduced the error to about 2
degrees.
Paul F. Dietz
dietz@cs.rochester.edu
| 14sci.space |
In article <93109.13404334AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET>
<34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> writes:
>I will be surprised if this post makes it past the censors,
>but here goes:
>
>Monday, 19 April, 1993 13:30 EDT
>
> MURDER MOST FOUL!!
>
[...]
>
>THIS IS MURDER!
>
>ATF MURDERERS! BUTCHERS!!
>
>THIS IS GENOCIDAL MASS-SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, INCLUDING CHILDREN!
Well, chalk one up for driving away sympathies by looking like
a paranoid lunatic.
>
>I have predicted this from the start, but God, it sickens me to see
>it happen. I had hoped I was wrong. I had hoped that there was
>still some shred of the America I grew up with, and loved, left
>alive. I was wrong. The Nazis have won.
>
>I REPEAT, AS OF THIS TIME THERE ARE **NO SURVIVORS**!
Last I heard there were nine. Apparently as of this point they've
found no bodies, except those killed during the initial assault a couple
of months ago.
Be cute if Koresh hit the trail.
Maybe he was bodily assumed into heaven. Wouldn't that just
make AG Reno's day?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
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PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu - "I still remember the way you laughed\
When you pushed me down the elevator shaft\ ... Sometimes I get to
thinking you don't love me anymore." - "Weird Al" Yankovic.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
healta@saturn.wwc.edu (Tammy R Healy) writes: >
>Tammy "See, Maddi, I trimmed it!" Healy
Well, you're going to have to practice, but you're getting
the hang of it. Soon we're going to have to give you a new
nickname. Try these on for size:
Tammy "Lucky Seven" Healy
Tammy "Pass the falafel" Healy
Tammy "R Us" Healy
Tammy "Learning by Doing" Healy
Maddi "Never a Useful Post" Hausmann
--
Maddi Hausmann madhaus@netcom.com
Centigram Communications Corp San Jose California 408/428-3553
Kids, please don't try this at home. Remember, I post professionally.
| 0alt.atheism |
rwong@eis.calstate.edu (Russel Wong) writes:
>Hello, my name is Russell Wong and I am doing a research project on Henry
>Ford and his automobile. I need information on whether Ford is
>partially responsible for all of the car accidents
Ya, he cut me off on 128 the other day, he drives like a crazy person.
I'd have to say he's responsible for most accidents, they really should
pull his licence.
-Steve
7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7 7
Alan Kulwicki 1992 Winston Cup Champion
1954 - 1993
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| 7rec.autos |
In article <1t30fu$str@access.digex.net>, prb@access.digex.net (Pat) writes:
> In article <1993May14.163044.1@stsci.edu> dempsey@stsci.edu writes:
>>This is a real world too. You can't do science like this with out doing
>>politics as well, unfortunately. Good PR keep the $$ coming in.
>>
>
> "Do you know what makes rocket ships fly? Funding, makes them fly.
> No Bucks, No Buck Rogers" :-)
>
>
Ok, so you have proven you saw the right stuff. However, as I said above,
it takes politics and PR to keep the bucks coming.
"No politics, no bucks, no buck rogers."
>
> I think you are missing the point. If an agency has gathered some data
> on something. and once tax dollars have been spent, the data is now
> Property of the people of the US government. The government may
> charge to recover some of the cost, or they may charge to maintain
> the data, but they cannot claim the data is proprietary, unless it
> is classified national security data.
>
Yes this may be true in the case of the SCIENCE data coming from the spacecraft
and other stuff about the operations. However, there is still stuff regarding
regular operation that belongs to the company and they have ever legal right
to keeping it theirs. But this does not mean that everything can or
should be swept under the umbrella of company proprietory data.
> I live down the road from NIH. THey run studies all the time.
> I can go into their library and photocoppy all the raw data from
> any study thev'e done. Just bring a roll of quarters.
>
You can do the same here...you just have to wait a year.
> I'm not saying you guys don't have internal rules, but they are
> not supported by US law.
>
Safeguard internal company data are indeed supported by US law.
-Dempsey
| 14sci.space |
In article 16924@psg.com, mvalente@draco.lnec.pt () writes:
>
>
> I'm posting this request again since the last one had no title.
>
> I'm looking for X server software on DOS or Windows.
>
> I've already seen Desqview/X and XVision but would like to be aware
> of other solutions, namely public domain or shareware implementations.
>
> I'd also like to know, in the commercial case, about possible problems,
> incompatibilities, available window managers and libraries, etc.
>
> If you have any experiences in this area please let me know.
>
>
> C U!
>
> By(e)
>
> Mario Valente
>
>
Try Linux. Available on the internet.
| 5comp.windows.x |
bil@okcforum.osrhe.edu (Bill Conner) writes:
>This is fascinating. Atheists argue for abortion, defend homosexuality
>as a means of population control, insist that the only values are
>biological and condemn war and capital punishment. According to
>Benedikt, if something is contardictory, it cannot exist, which in
>this case means atheists I suppose.
>I would like to understand how an atheist can object to war (an
>excellent means of controlling population growth), or to capital
>punishment, I'm sorry but the logic escapes me.
First, you seem to assume all atheists think alike. An atheist does not
believe in the existence of a god. Our opinions on issues such as
capital punishment and abortion, however, vary greatly.
If you were attacking the views of a particular atheist (Benedikt, I
presume), then please present your argument as such and do not lump us
all together.
As for the issues, let's start with abortion. Personally, I do not support
abortion as a means of population control or contraception-after-the-fact.
However, I support the right of any woman to have an abortion, regardless
of what my personal views may be, because it would be arrogant of me to tell
any individual what he/she may or may not do to his/her body, and the domain
of legislators should not extend into the uterus. That's my opinion, and I
am sure many atheists and theists would disagree with me.
I do not defend homosexuality as a means of population control, but I
certainly defend it as an end to itself. I think most homosexuals would
be angered to hear of anyone characterizing their personal relationship as
nothing more than a conscious effort to keep population levels down.
As for atheists believing all values are biological, I have no idea what
you're talking about.
Finally, there are the issues of war and capital punishment. An atheist
can object to either one just as easily as a theist might. You seem to
be hung up on some supposed conspiratorial link between atheism and
population control. Could this be the "atheist cause" you were referring
to a few posts back?
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| 0alt.atheism |
Hi to all.
Since all of you could also be a seller as well as a buyer, I'd like to bring
this issue for discussion - what would be the best solution in case a deal
became a lemon?
As I understand most people selling things over the net do not grant a warranty,I am in such a situation that the seller did not state whether a warranty would be granted or not and the item I received is out of order. The seller insisted
that it was 'in good condition' when he sent it and so would just return half ofthe amount that I paid if I send the item back to him and after he is sured it
is bad. Is this reasonable?
Basically I would like to believe the seller tells the truth. Also, I am positively to say that I've not done anything wrong which might cause the failure of
the thing. My assumption here is everyone is honest - so rule out the possibility that either one of the two parties or both are liars.
I would like to hear your opinion - either in here or directly respond to my
e-mail address.
I know there is such a risk that you could lose money. But, how can we make it
enjoyable to most people and not wasting the bandwidth?
chein
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <1r8anlINN60g@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> ewoo@unixg.ubc.ca (Emile Woo) writes:
>program manager but it seems that everytime I install something new that
>makes a new group, it promptly disappears after I turn of windows!
(1) Did you check that a new *.grp file was actually created in your Windows
directory?
(2) Are you _turning off_ your computer when windows is running rather than
closing Program Manager?
-- Ekkehard
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Steve Bellovin writes a well-thought-out and nearly persuasive article about
why the Clipper (are we still calling it Clipper today, or have they figured
out a non-infringing word yet?) protocol is almost as good as one can do
given their marching ordes.
In article <1993Apr24.160121.17189@ulysses.att.com> smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
> I issue this invitation: assume that you were charged with
>implementing such a system, with complete regard for civil rights and
>due process. What would you do differently? In answering this
>question, please accept NSA's fundamental assumptions: that both
>strong cryptography against outsiders, and the ability to wiretap
>*some* domestic users, is necessary.
I'll accept the second assumption only for the sake of argument. In my
view the primary remaining flaw is that the encryption algorithm is
secret, leading to suspicion that there is a back door. Without complete
disclosure this suspicion cannot be dispelled, no matter how many trusted
experts are allowed to look at it in isolation.
Is it possible to do this whole thing with a public algorithm? The only
concern I've seen with making Skipjack public is that someone could build
Clipperphones without registering the keys. Assume F can really be kept
secret as the Government assumes. Then as part of the initial connection,
a Clipperphone executes a protocol with the Pseudophone to demonstrate
that they both know F. For example, the initiating phone picks a number Q
and sends E[Q; F]. The receiver sends back E[Q+1; F], and the initiator
sends back E[Q+2; F] to demonstrate that her first packet wasn't just a
random 64-bit block. Repeat in the opposite direction with another Q so
it can't be defeated by somebody building up a library of sequential
numbers by remembering responses and using those responses as the initial
numbers of subsequent challenges. This way Clipperphones will talk only
to other Clipperphones. Of course the Pseudo Company can build their own
proprietary Skipjack phone, but the Presidential Fact Sheet implies that
they won't get approval for it without equivalent key escrow.
What's wrong with this picture? It depends of F staying secret and on
Skipjack being resistant to cryptanalysis, but the Government appears to
believe in both of these. Even if the particular Q&A I suggest has some
flaw, I imagine there's a zero-knowledge-proof protocol that doesn't.
smb says:
>The third, and most serious issue, is whether or not Clipper is a good
>idea even if carried out strictly according to the letter of the law.
Agreed. My view, and you can quote me: if it's not worth doing, it's
not worth doing well.
--
Jim Gillogly
Hevensday, 3 Thrimidge S.R. 1993, 20:48
| 11sci.crypt |
When I was a school boy, my biology teacher told us of an incident
in which a couple were very passionate without actually having
sexual intercourse. Somehow the girl became pregnent as sperm
cells made their way to her through the clothes via persperation.
Was my biology teacher misinforming us, or do such incidents actually
occur?
Stephen
| 13sci.med |
In article <1993Apr20.163629.29153@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> jrlaf@sgi502.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com (J. R. Laferriere) writes:
>I was just wondering if there were any law officers that read this. I have
>several questions I would like to ask pertaining to motorcycles and cops.
>And please don't say get a vehicle code, go to your local station, or obvious
>things like that. My questions would not be found in those places nor
>answered face to face with a real, live in the flesh, cop.
>If your brother had a friend who had a cousin whos father was a cop, etc.
>don't bother writing in. Thanks.
>
>
>
Well, here goes. After lurking for a LONG time, I'll announce myself. Yes, I'm
the enemy. The enemy that also happens to ride an "arrest me red" 90 VFR.
Bike history: (as if this endears me to the DoD)
79 Honda XL 175 "High School"
85 Kawasaki KLR 600
84 Honda V65 Sabre "Cornering by Committee"
88 Honda Hawk GT "Proctologists' designed this bike"
90 VFR
I'll entertain questions but my answers will reflect Georgia law and may not
apply in your state.
P.S. Anyone got a Nomex suit for sale?
>
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In a previous article, sdexter@shl.com (Scott Dexter) says:
>I like the Amigo; I would like some feedback...
>
>Any and all feedback appreciated-
Yet another Jeep wannabe designed for yuppies who will never take it off road but want
to look "outdoorsey".
--
DoD #650<----------------------------------------------------------->DarkMan
The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of
thinking we were at when we created them. - Albert Einstein
___________________The Eternal Champion_________________
| 7rec.autos |
hello,
for 2 months I've unsuccessfully attempted to get either
a 3rd or 4th serial port working on my system.
various systems diagnostics (e.g., MSD, Norton) tell me
it's there, but anything I hook up to it can't use it
I have two serial ports on the motherboard
if I set my internal FAX/modem for com4 the utility
programs report a COM3
I've checked to make sure all the IRQs and addresses are
correctly (as listed in most manuals) set
am I missing something very basic?
where should I go from here?
any help, even a point in the right direction, would be
most appreciated.
David Besonen
"davidb@student.umass.edu"
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <18859.1076.uupcb@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> mark.harrison@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Mark Harrison) writes:
>I am new to motorcycliing (i.e. Don't even have a bike yet) and will be
>going on a long trip from Edmonton to Vancouver. Any tips on bare
>essentials for the trip? Tools, clothing, emergency repairs...?
Er, without a bike (Ed, maybe you ought to respond to this...), how
you gonna get there?
If yer going by cage, what's this got to do with r.m?
>
>I am also in the market for a used cycle. Any tips on what to look for
>so I don't get burnt?
>
>Much appreciated
>Mark
>
Maybe somebody oughta gang-tool-FAQ this guy, hmmm?
--
Andy Infante | You can listen to what everybody says, but the fact remains |
'71 BMW R60/5 | that you've got to get out there and do the thing yourself. |
DoD #2426 | -- Joan Sutherland |
==============| My opinions, dammit, have nothing to do with anyone else!!! |
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <1993Apr27.233234.2929@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> wvhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William VanHorne) writes:
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>From: wvhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William VanHorne)
>Subject: Re: Krillean Photography
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>In article <C65oIL.436@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> alex@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Alexander P. Zijdenbos) writes:
>>
>>Reading through the posts about Kirlian (whatever spelling)
>>photography I couldn't help but being slightly disgusted by the
>>narrow-minded, "I know it all", "I don't believe what I can't see or
>>measure" attitude of many people out there.
>>
>>I am neither a real believer, nor a disbeliever when it comes to
>>so-called "paranormal" stuff; but as far as I'm concerned, it is just
>>as likely as the existence of, for instance, a god, which seems to be
>>quite accepted in our societies - without any scientific basis.
>>
>>I am convinced that it is a serious mistake to close your mind to
>>something, ANYTHING, simply because it doesn't fit your current frame
>>of reference. History shows that many great people, great scientists,
>>were people who kept an open mind - and were ridiculed by sceptics.
>>
>>Especially the USA should be grateful; after all, Columbus did not
>>drop off the edge of the earth.
>It is one thing to be open-minded about phenomona that have not
>be demonstrated to be false, and quite another to "believe" in
>something like Krilian photography, where *all* the claimed effects
>have be demonstrated to be artifacts. There is no longer any reason
>to adopt a "wait and see" attitude about Krilian photography, it
>has been experimentally shown to be nothing but simple coronal
>discharge. The "auras" shown by missing leaf parts came from
>moisture left by the original whole leaf, for example.
>That's what science is, son.
>---Bill VanHorne
| 13sci.med |
In article <1993Apr14.221646.2332@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>, jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
> > You might have missed the U.S. News & World Report excerpt
> > I posted. It is fairly consistant with other such polls, finding
> > that approximately 40-50% of households have at least one firearm.
> OK ... a near-majority actually OWN firearms, but I will still
> claim that the VAST majority never needs to use them or even
> threaten anyone with them.
500,000 to 1,000,000 self-defense incidents a YEAR doesn't count with you?
> What do they do right ... or are
> they just lucky ?
Maybe they're just UNLUCKY. If a rapist pulls a woman into an alley
in Boston, chances are almost certain that she won't be counted
as one of those self-defenders because our local constabulary didn't
consider it important that she be allowed to arm herself. Even though
the shotgun she owns at home makes her show up in the "gun owner" column.
> In either case, this means the 'average
> threat level' in this country is rather low.
Ironic words for somebody who lives in Florida. The "average threat
level" in Florida has been REDUCED by a liberal CCW policy. It's well
known that your local thugs like to target tourists precisely because
they are less likely to be carrying than your natives. Come on up to
Boston, or NYC, or Washington DC, and see how much diddlysquat the
"average threat level in the country" means to a resident there.
> I think you have weapons on the brain. I never said that these
> alternative means of self-protection involved any hardware.
> Why are 'good' neighborhoods 'good' ? It isn't because every
> person is armed to the teeth. It is because of (1) attitude
> and (2) cooperation. In the 'good' neighborhoods, the residents
> make themselves aware of their neighbors and notice when
> strangers are lurking around. 'Good' neighborhoods form groups
> like 'crime-watch' to increase this effect, and the relative
> effectiveness of the police. When hostiles are arrested, the
> good neighbors step up and say "THAT'S the one officer ! He
> was robbing Mr. Jones' house".
Sometimes this works. Sometimes it just lands your good neighbors
on the dance card for the next wave of drive-bys. Someone here once
told a story about LA gangs moving into Phoenix. I've misplaced the
original text, but the story started with one resident calling the
cops on a gang member. Sure enough, a few nights later, there was a
drive-by performed at the resident's house. Except that this time,
unlike in LA, the entire street came out and returned fire, putting
an end to the car's occupants. The gang packed up and left.
Of course, in LA, or in a place like Florida after the hurricane,
your first problem is to FIND an officer to step up to and tell
anything.
> In short, the alternative to firepower is gangs ... or at
> least a benificent manifestation of that social cooperative.
> Replace lead with flesh ... the flesh makes a better
> conversationalist too and you can invite it over for a
> block party.
Look, nobody is arguing this. I have a fire extinguisher at home.
That doesn't mean I can be careless about tossing my burnt matches
on the carpet. I live carefully, monitor the woodstove, get my flue
cleaned twice a year, and test my smoke alarms annually. But if --
DESPITE all this -- a fire does start, it's too late for any of
these things EXCEPT the extinguisher.
> > But legality and legitimacy also matter. If a government's charter
> > makes a rule, which the government then violates, it is violated the
> > basis for its existance. Enforcement of its will becomes a matter
> > solely of force of arms.
>
> Oliver North. The man is positively worshiped in many
> all-American 'conservative' quarters. He and Big Ron
> set-up a secret government and did all sorts of severely
> illegal deeds - the kind of stuff you and I would be doing
> twenty-to-life for, yet he walks free. This BS happens all
> the time. In fact, it happens so much that no one really
> cares anymore. 'Legitimacy' is a non-issue. Legality is
> a non-issue. So long as we get T-bones and our MTV, who
> gives a rats ass ?
You seem to be agreeing with your opponent. You can't trust your
government to protect you from abusers and violators -- white-collar,
blue-collar, epauletted, or tank-shirted. Ultimately, no one has the
power to enforce your "rights" but you. Unless you've given up that
power.
> No. I claimed that no one is interested in the statistical
> aspects of the argument. Pure emotion, like the abortion issue.
Too many people fit that category, that is true. Some of us like to
believe that they are uninterested in the facts behind the case for gun
ownership because they've been conditioned to believe that there AREN'T
any. You seem content to underestimate the electorate; I'm willing to
try to raise their consciousness.
> Argue away ... you can't win.
I think we can.
HCI was founded in what, 1980? In the mid-80's, they ran a "One
Million Strong!" campaign for two years before reaching this goal.
My understanding is that they "reached" it by the stratagem of including
wide classes of people other than dues-paying members. (I can't speak
authoritatively on this -- maybe somebody else has details.) Then they
started running a "Two Million Strong!" campaign for a while -- but they
let it slip into unannounced obscurity when it became clear that they
simply were never going to reach that level of membership.
In 1964, just after the commencement of the Dodd Hearings -- the starting
point of the modern gun-control movement, the NRA had a mere 625,000 members.
By 1968, barely after the first murmurs of future registration, it had
about a million. Today, it has over three million members, making it the
third largest membership organization in the country (next to AARP and AAA).
And its membership is GROWING FASTER than at any previous time. (Historical
figures from Kukla's "Gun Control," pp. 61 and 420.)
As you say, many of the people in the middle of this debate are bemused
by their T-bones and MTV. That leaves hard-core gun-owners against
hard-core gun banners.
I know a number of ex-HCI members who have recently become NRA members.
I've never heard of a single one who has gone the other way.
Yes, I think we can and will win this one.
> Firearms-related mindless mayhem will be related to the
> availibility of firearms. If they become scarce and
> and expensive, a different psychology will take hold.
> I *think* they would be used far less to settle trivial
> complaints.
I think they would be used far less to hammer nails, as well, but,
like you, I can't give any citation showing that this utilization is
CURRENTLY significant at more than an anecdotal level. If you can,
I'm waiting.
--
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OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1993Apr21.141137.863@imag.fr> schaefer@imag.imag.fr (Arno Schaefer) writes:
>In article <1993Apr21.085848.12704W@lumina.edb.tih.no>, ketil@edb.tih.no (Ketil Albertsen,TIH) writes:
>|> In article <1993Apr20.230749.12821@reed.edu>, mblock@reed.edu (Matt Block) writes:
>>> I guess what I am saying is that your question is difficult, if not
>>>impossible, to answer. What exactly do you want to know? Do you need a good
>>>one for a project you are working on? How secure must it be? Are you trying
>>>to crack one that someone else has used? I can probably make suggestions,
>>>assuming the activity is strictly legal. (In general, it is a BAD idea,
>>>legally, to tamper with copy protection. It can also lead to corruption of
>>>files which you necessarily do not have back ups of (being as they are copy
>>>protected,) which can be devestating.) Do you have absolutely no ideas for
>>>practical applications, and are merely curious?
>>> Please clear up those questions, and I'll try to help as much as I
>>>can.
>>
>> May we interpret this as an offer to volunteer as editor for a
>> "Copy protection FAQ" ? I am quite sure that I am not alone welcoming such
>> an initiative! *I* will volunteer to ask some of the questions, if you will
>> provide the answers :-)
>>
>Hey, now will you stop encouraging him? Copy protection only serves one pur-
>pose: to keep the honest buyer from making (legal) backup copies. It will
>definitely not stop any pirates. If you want to protect you soft, supply a
>good documentation and support. This is IMHO the *only* way of effectively
>protecting software.
There are several types of copy protection, and the point is to make sure the
user is using a legitimate copy. The simplest and virtually fool-proof way is
for the program to somehow fixate itself to the machine it was installed on
(some sort of checksum, serial number, whatever) so a copy put on a different
machine (NOT installed from original disks) will not work.
The program is definitely backupable, if restored to the same machine (depends
on the programmer... don't use a disk drive characteristic!) If the user
did an upgrade to the machine, he/she should reinstall all programs any way.
No document look-up, no disk wear-and-tear!
I did not say that the originals would allow only one install. The user's
conscience should do that.
I know, I'll get flamed for this... But with the increasing number of "casual"
users who either unknowingly or don't care about the software copyrights
(It's the truth. I have "friends" who ask me for copies of my latest games
all the time, and when I refused, they went after somebody else.), casual
pirating is becoming more of a problem. Some sort of copy protection will
discourage the casual copying. I've seen what some of my "friends" dug up
somewhere... Latest and the greatest games, all cracked, WITHIN days of actual
release! You know how many bytes you need to change in X-wing to disable
the quiz? TWO! Yes, TWO! (And don't ask me which ones they are.) Determined
pirates are unstoppable, given enough time, but their results do not spread
that far, since pirate boards are not that well-known, and easily tracked once
found by authorities. It is the "casual" pirates that the copy protection is
determined to discourage.
What I believe the companies should do is implement the above plus
a special patch once the user registers that loudly exclaims upon bootup
"REGISTERED TO XXXXX -- address, city, state zip" and disables the above.
Two benefits: 1) encourages registration, 2) cuts down on pirating and
makes it more traceable, because if the patch's registration message is
encrypted, it will be quite hard to change, and therefore provides a
stable trail of who allowed their copy out of their hands, and thus
violated their license agreement.
This way, the legitimate users who does not register will experience minimal
discomfort (who does major upgrades to their computer frequently?) as only
problem they have is they won't be able to restore to another computer.
The registered users would have proven they are legitmate users and therefore
gains full rights, and can restore to different machines. On the other hand,
the software company now have a record of where THIS particular copy is
supposed to be. If this user's copy was found to be somewhere it was not
supposed to be, we know who has broken their license agreement. Of course,
a hacker can break that eventually, but that's not the point, is it?
--Kasey Chang
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <31MAR199317363332@jane.uh.edu>, mece3d@jane.uh.edu (Chris
Struble) wrote:
Christian Struble writes:
> Some people are not very good at getting the best deal for their
> effort, and others are unwilling to put forth much effort, even in
> the face of economic incentives. There will always be some people
> who are stupid or lazy, relative to the ability or effort of most
> others. The question is what do you do with them? There are three
> options:
> [...]
> 2) Kill those who are not productive as a drain upon "society".
> This is the communist ("All who do not toil shall not eat" -
> Lenin) or fascist approach.
> [...]
You're being too generous to the communists, I think. In practice,
communism has "solved" the problem by killing off anybody who is _too_
productive, and who therefore raises embarrassing questions about why the
rest of the group is a bunch of sluggards. The mass butchery of "kulaks"
in the USSR is a good instance of this.
A poor second best is to have a neighboring capitalist country to which
people of politically incorrect skill and ambition flee. I often wonder
just what Castro would have done if the Cubans presently in Miami would
have been forced to remain in Cuba. Would they have revolted and killed
him off, or been killed?
Best of all is to build a wall locking the citizens of your country in,
load it up so heavily with attack dogs, barbed wire, and land mines that
most people fleeing over it die, and then give everyone the choice of
obedience, prison, or flight. This would be a bad science-fiction novel,
if the East Germans hadn't actually done it. The last person to die
crossing the wall, as I recall, was an unarmed woman who was shot in the
back. Erich Honecker was going to go on trial for that, but he fled to
socialists in Chile.
It's good to be kind to one's intellectual opponents, but sometimes
it's a sheer waste of time.
--Erich Schwarz / schwarze@starbase1.caltech.edu
| 18talk.politics.misc |
I am looking for some information about 3D animation stations that
are currently on the market. The price of the station can be from 5K-20K,
but no more than $20,000.00. Type of workstation doesnt matter (PC, MAC,
SGI etc..) . If you use or have bought/looked at one or can suggest your
dream machine, then please mail me your configurations. I need the following.
1. Type of station (PC, MAC etc.. )
2. Expandibilty of the machine.
3. Software that can run on it
4. VTR Controller and/or VTR deck model/name.
5. Vendors names and numbers.
Thanks in advance.
Ken Eyler
eylerken@u.washington.edu
The Evergreen State College
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <93Apr20.193958.30419@acs.ucalgary.ca>, parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
> In article <C5pntM.8Co@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) writes:
>
> >This tactic depends for its effectiveness on the dog's conformance to
> >a "psychological norm" that may not actually apply to a particular dog.
> >I've tried it with some success before, but it won't work on a Charlie Manson
> >dog or one that's really, *really* stupid. A large Irish Setter taught me
> >this in *my* yard (apparently HIS territory) one day. I'm sure he was playing
> >a game with me. The game was probably "Kill the VERY ANGRY Neighbor" Before
> >He Can Dispense the TERRIBLE PUNISHMENT.
>
> What, a dog weighs 150lb maybe, at max? You can't handle it?
We were having a problem with instability in the universal gravitational
constant that day: the closer I got to those exposed fangs (still dripping,
no doubt, with the viscera of the last foolhardy experimenter cum canine
psychology) the bigger and heavier the dog appeared to become. Also,
recall that the distribution of the ~150lb is one five pound jaw+teeth
operated by two 70lb muscles driven by a .005 ounce brain possessing an
instinctual heuristic composed of equal parts of bloodlust and ravening hunger.
The other ~5 lb is, of course, dog poop, but that varies all over the place
as the dog deposits it regularly on the painstakingly manicured and tended
lawns of the dog's owner's neighbors (whilst continuously replenishing its
inexhaustible supply, no doubt by consuming the likes of folks like me).
> You have, I presume, thumbs? Grapple with it and tear it's head
> off!
My very thought at the time, but as I looked down at these once formidable
instruments of mayhem, I realized they had become weak and atrophied by too
many sedentary hours tapping away at my ergonomically-correct CRT keyboard.
There was only one option left: I reached down to the toolbox near my
car and grasped my Craftsman 150 ft-lb torque wrench, surely the bludgeon
of dire necessity if ever there was one. To my amazement and
confusion, the setter started shaking and rolling on the grass, then leapt
to its feet and vanished down the street, still quivering and occasionally
looking back at me.
"Seven at One Blow!" I exclaimed, flexing my new-found biceps and brandishing
my Terrible Weapon of Invincibility as I stalked the now-secure environs
of my domicile. It was only later that I found out what the dog apparently
knew all along: the wrench was defective, would no longer measure torque
accurately, and Sears wouldn't fix it or replace it. What I had interpreted
as fear and subservience were in fact unmitigated hilarity and contempt.
> Sheesh, even a trained attack dog is no match for a human,
> we have *all* the advantages.
Exactly: nobody can look quite as silly as we can.
:-)
Chuck Rogers
car377@torreys.att.com
| 8rec.motorcycles |
scott@prism.gatech.edu (Scott Holt) writes:
>"Hate the sin but love the sinner"...I've heard that quite a bit recently,
>often in the context of discussions about Christianity and homosexuality...
>but the context really isn't that important. My question is whether that
>statement is consistent with Christianity. I would think not.
>Hate begets more hate, never love. Consider some sin. I'll leave it unnamed
>since I don't want this to digress into an argument as to whether or not
>something is a sin. Now lets apply our "hate the sin..." philosophy and see
>what happens. If we truly hate the sin, then the more we see it, the
>stronger our hatred of it will become. Eventually this hate becomes so
>strong that we become disgusted with the sinner and eventually come to hate
>the sinner. In addition, our hatred of the sin often causes us to say and
That is an assumption on your part. Where is your proof that one always will
degenerate into hating the sinner, because he hates the sin.
I am reminded of the Civil Rights movement in America. It is true that many
individuals hated the proponents of racism. It is also true that many
individuals hated segregation and discrimination with their whole heart and
never degenerated into hating the individuals who practiced it. Dr. King's
message was this. Love the individual, the loving of the individual would
transform him into a friend. However, this did not take away his hatred for
segregation. His hatred for injustice.
>In the summary of the law, Christ commands us to love God and to love our
>neighbors. He doesn't say anything about hate. In fact, if anything, he
>commands us to save our criticisms for ourselves. So, how are Christians
>supposed to deal with the sin of others? I suppose that there is only one
>way to deal with sin (either in others or ourselves)...through prayer. We
>need to ask God to help us with our own sin, and to help those we love
>with theirs. Only love can conquer sin...hatred has no place. The best way to
>love someone is to pray for them.
I would ask, "Did John the Baptist practice love when he criticized the Jewish
Leaders of his day?" Did Jesus Practice love when he threw the moneychangers
out of the temple?
We must have at least a distase for sin. We must in order to fight it in
ourselves. Also we must be ready for the call from God to call sin by its
right name. Jesus loved everyone, but he called sin by its right name.
It is true that love for others is to guide every step of our walk, but it is
also true that sometimes the love for God calls us to stand up for truth.
--
"Competition is the law of the jungle.
Cooperation is the law of civilization." -- Eldridge Cleaver
Sherman Cox, II scox@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1993Apr15.044636.29924@slcs.slb.com> dcd@se.houston.geoquest.slb.com (Dan Day) writes:
>That's scary -- if there's a way to set an arbitrary mileage figure
>into the odometer, you can't trust *any* odometer reading, even
>if you can prove that the odometer itself is the same one that
>came on the car originally.
I was wondering if anyone can shed any light on just how it is that these
electronic odometers remember the total elapsed mileage? What kind of
memory is stable/reliable enough, non-volatile enough and independent enough
(of outside battery power) to last say, 10 years or more, in the life of a
vehicle? I'm amazed that anything like this could be expected to work for
this length of time (especially in light of all the gizmos I work with that
are doing good to work for 2 months without breaking down somehow).
Side question: how about the legal ramifications of selling a used car with
a replaced odometer that starts over at 0 miles, after say 100/200/300K
actual miles. Looks like fraud would be fairly easy - for the price of a
new odometer, you can say it has however many miles you want to tell the
buyer it has.
Thanks for any insight.
Kim Greer
Duke University Medical Center klg@orion.mc.duke.edu
Div. Nuclear Medicine POB 3949 voice: 919-681-5894
Durham, NC 27710 fax: 919-681-5636
| 12sci.electronics |
In <C5yqDE.Cq0@ecf.toronto.edu> gladman@ecf.toronto.edu (GLADMAN AVIV) writes:
>In article <Zw6F3B1w165w@inqmind.bison.mb.ca> baden@inqmind.bison.mb.ca (Baden de Bari) writes:
>>
>> So what's the story here... we're all stuck with the regular
>>green, red, and off yellow-orange LED's!? What gives!!??
>> Anybody have a 'scoop' on FAIRLY LOW PRICED >BLUE< LED's???
>>
>In order to emit blue light, a semiconductor must have a band gap energy
>within the region of 2.6 to 2.8 electron Volts. According to my physical
>electronics prof, you can't get an LED with that band gap. That's why you
He's mistaken. They exist, the semiconductor is silicon carbide, and they
are inefficient and expensive. The bandgap is around 2.7 ev.
>don't find blue LEDs or, for that matter, some other colour of LEDs. That
>is not to say that blue LEDs can't be found. I've seen 'blue' LEDs sold,
>but they were just your typical visible light LED in a blue plastic covering.
>They didn't emit very much light...
The ones I have are clear plastic. Pray tell, what would make a "typical"
LED emit blue light?
--
David Josephson <davidj@rahul.net>
| 12sci.electronics |
I have a nice quote that I like (or as close as I can remember it).
If I say something that you think is crazy, ask me what I mean before you think
its crazy..
So some of my ideas are a bit odd, off the wall and such, but so was Wilbur and
Orville Wright, and quite a few others.. Sorry if I do not have the big degrees
and such, but I think (I might be wrong, to error is human) I have something
that is in many ways just as important, I have imagination, dreams. And without
dreams all the knowledge is worthless..
Sorry my two cents worth. Or is it two rubles worth?
The basic quote idea is from H. Beam Pipers book "Space Vikings". Its a good
book on how civilization can fall, and how it can be raised to new heights.
Unfortunately H. Beam Piper killed him self just weeks short of having his
first book published, and have his ideas see light.. Such a waste.
| 14sci.space |
I've seen several references to split- or separate-beam radars, which I
claimed didn't exist. Gotta eat some crow here - I wasn't aware of them.
All I really knew was that it can be done with one beam.
I believe the rest of what I said is accurate, though.
Mmmmmmm....crow.... (oops-wrong group)
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <115072@bu.edu> kiki@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Keith Baccki) writes:
>C. Lee (lee@obiwan.rsg.hac.com) wrote:
>: Did you say DEC Alpha? Upgrade path from [...]
>: 6xx0: replace. Upgrade path from VAX 66x0 to Alpha: replace the system.
> Not totally fair - you haven't mentioned the DECstation
>series. I think if SGI made CISC mainframes they wouldn't provide
>an upgrade path to an Onyx.
I agree with you about the upgrade path; but I think I was fair.
The original posting complained (1) about SGI coming out with newer (and
better) architectures and not having an upgrade path from the older ones,
and (2) that DEC did.
On statement (1), I merely attempted to point out that all computer
companies are constantly attempting to improve their product (& market
position/share). In so doing, they eventually come to a point where they
have a new architecture, and the only upgrade path is to replace the
system. And the particular system he was complaining about was (in
computer lifetimes) relatively old.
On statement (2), I felt DEC's history of providing upgrades was not far
superior than the industry "average", and that, in my opinion, SGI's
history is better than DEC's.
(And what is DEC doing with it's MIPS based DECstation line? Are they
going to "abandon" it for their Alpha based line, or provide an upgrade
path to R4400's and TFP's and R5's?)
--
| 1comp.graphics |
A friend has the following symptoms which have occurred periodically
every few months for the last 3 years. An episode begins with extreme
tiredness followed by:
1. traveling joint pains and stiffness affecting mostly the elbows,
knees, and hips.
2. generalized muscle pains
3. tinnitus and a feeling of pressure in her ears
4. severe sweating occuring both at night and during the day
5. hemorrhaging in both eyes. Her opthamologist calls it peripheral
retinal hemorhages and says it looks similar to diabetic retinopathy. (She
isn't diabetic--they checked.
6. distorted color vision and distorted vision in general (telephone
poles do not appear to be straight)
7. loss of peripheral vision.
Many tests have been run and all are normal except for something
called unidentified bright objects found on a MRI of her brain. The only
thing that seems to alleviate one of these episodes is prednisone. At
times she had been on 60 mg per day. Whenever she gets down to 10-15 mg
the symptoms become acute again.
She is quite concerned because the retinal hemorrhages are becoming
worse with each episode and her vision is suffering. None of the docs she
has seen have any idea what this condition is or what can be done to stop
it. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in
advance. Kathy Turner
| 13sci.med |
Hi ,
I am looking for a polygon fill routine to fill
simple 4 sided polygons .
Can some one who has this routine in C help me in
saving my "REINVENTING" time.
Thanx in advance .....
Rao.
| 1comp.graphics |
Is there any third party video ram adapter for vewing 24 bit color on LCII?
I heard that Apple is selling it aroung 160$.
Please e-mail me.
Thanks.
Young
youyj@mace.cc.purdue.edu
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
This is a general question for US readers:
How extensive is the playoff coverage down there? In Canada, it is almost
impossible not to watch a series on TV (ie the only two series I have not had
an opportunity to watch this year are Wash-NYI and Chi-Stl, the latter because
I'm in the wrong time zone!). We (in Canada) are basically swamped with
coverage, and I wonder how many series/games are televised nationally or even
locally in the US and how much precedence they take over, say, local news if
the games go into double-OT.
Email me so as not to waste bandwidth, please. My news feed is kind of slow
anyways.
l8tr
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1993Apr20.154658@IASTATE.EDU> kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub) writes:
>In article <lt8d3bINNj1g@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM
>(Eric Marsh) writes:
>>In article <1qvmk2$csk@morrow.stanford.edu> salem@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Bruce
>Salem) writes:
>>> I wonder if the Universe would look like a Black Hole
>>>from "outside"? How could we posit an "Outside", whether called
>>>DeSitter space, hyperspace, parallel universes, whatever?
>>I don't think that the universe would look like a black hole from
>>the outside, because that would imply that similar to a black hole we
>>would see stuff coming in from the "outside."
> Now that has always confused me. Once a black hole forms, I don't see how
>anything could pass the event horizon (perhaps including the original mass that
>formed (is forming) the black hole in the first place.
> Let's say that we drop a marble into the black hole. It races, ever faster,
>towards the even horizon. But, thanks to the curving of space caused by the
>excessive gravity, as the object approaches the event horizon it has further to
>travel. Integrating the curve gives a time to reach the event horizon of . . .
>infinity. So the math says that nothing can enter a black hole.
As I understand things, this is just a matter of perspective. If you are
on the outside looking in, it appears that nothing can ever enter the
black hole; as something approaches the event horizon it appears to slow,
and never gets there. However if you are on the object looking out you
get an entirely different view. As you look out you will see the universe
speed up, and ultimately will witness the collapse or heat death of
the universe without.
> | __L__
>-|- ___ Warren Kurt vonRoeschlaub
> | | o | kv07@iastate.edu
> |/ `---' Iowa State University
>/| ___ Math Department
> | |___| 400 Carver Hall
> | |___| Ames, IA 50011
> J _____
eric
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993Apr16.194708.13273@vax.oxford.ac.uk> jaj@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>What all you turkey pro-pistol and automatic weapons fanatics don't seem to
>realize is that the rest of us *laugh* at you. You don't make me angry, you
>just make me chuckle - I remeber being in Bellingham, Washington and seeing a
[Warning: Flammage to follow...]
Ah, that British sense of humor. Probably got a real gut-buster going
when the IRA blew that kid up a couple of weeks ago, huh? Of course,
in Britain, your government has ordered you defenseless, so your way
of coping with violent criminals is to laugh at victims.
>pick-up truck in front of the car that my friend and I were in. It had a bumper
>sticker proclaiming "Gun Control is a firm grip on a .45." Now I'm sure that
>that wanker thought he was pretty cool.
I don't know about a .45. My own preference is for 9mm.
>What he didn't realize was that we took a photo of the back of his truck, and
>showed it to our friends when we got back to Vancouver, Canada (where I'm from
>originally). People were guffawing at the basic stupidity of such a
>sticker, and the even greater stupidity of the person who put it there in the
>first place! :)
Ah, Canada. Where the criminals don't bother with checking to see
if the victims are home. They just break on in. America's a little
different, you see. Criminals worry a bit more about getting shot,
so they more frequently check to see if anyone's home.
>I knew somebody else who went to one of your "Gun-mart" superstore places, just
>so he could experience the sight of people putting guns and ammo into shopping
>carts! I didn't believe it myself until I drove by one in Vegas last year!!!
I've heard Gun World in Phoenix, Arizona, is fantastic! I'm hoping
to visit there myself soon.
>Now that I live in Britain, I can see how the rest of the civilized world
>perceives you gun-nut morons. The BBC recently referred to the American
>penchant for pistols, automatic weapons,etc. very appropriately - it was
>called a "national eccentricity."
Ah, Britain again. Isn't that the place where you're guilty until
proven innocent? Tell me, Mr. "jaj@vax.oxford.ac.uk" didn't Britain
come begging to us "gun nut morons" in the early 1940s for guns to
defend yourselves against Hitler? Seems as though your supposedly
enlightened government had disarmed you: "Aw chaps, you can jolly
give up your guns. If that Hitler man starts to threaten, we can
always hit up the Yanks for a few guns. They've got a bloody
eccentric habit about those guns, you know. Just hand in your
shotgun, that's it. Thank you."
>The only problem is that Canada, I hear, is suffering from your national
>eccentricity, in that easy to purchase weapons are being smuggled cross the
>border.
Ain't it just amazing how those black markets work? Damn if those
drugs from south america keep coming over our borders, too, even
though we've banned them. Guess we might as well legalize them.
Makes you want to send fifty bucks to the Libertarian Party just
thinking about it, doesn't it?
>Anyway, all you gun nut Rush Limbaugh fans, please *keep* up your diatribes
>against Brady and other evil "Liberal media" plots - you 're so damn funny!
>You provide endless amounts of entertainment in your arguments and examples of
>why someone should be allowed to carry a piece! Keep us all chuckling!
>
Your close-minded ignorance is without parallel. I guess that's what
happens when you're raised as a "subject" without rights. Your
type gravitates to those who desire to hold power over you.
>Hell, I miss those NRA ads with Gerald McRainey now that I'm over here! Those
>were like Monty Python sketches!
Just chuckle as the cops beat you senseless to get a confession.
Just laugh yourself silly when you find that confession is valid
in court. "Hey mate, this is justice, British style."
Drew
--
betz@gozer.idbsu.edu
*** brought into your terminal from the free state of idaho ***
*** when you outlaw rights, only outlaws will have rights ***
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semtex, neptunium, terrorist, cia, mi5, mi6, kgb, deuterium
| 16talk.politics.guns |
When I left, it was 4-3, Blues with 2:00 to go! As I predicted in
"@#$%! I was right in the first place!!!" Blues in 6! YES!!!
Of course it's only one game -- that could be the 'Hawks stab in the face to
wake them up -- that's what playoffs are about, on any given day... :-)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
** Robbie Po ** PGH PENGUINS!!! "We do what comes naturally!
Patrick Division Semi's '91 STANLEY CUP You see now, wait for the
PENGUINS 6, Devils 3 '92 CHAMPIONS possibility, don't you see a
Penguins lead, 1-0 12 STRAIGHT WINS! strong resemblance..."-DG '89
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
As it says in the subject, I am looking for a decent EGA or VGA monitor/card
combo that is in working condition.
The only thing is that it must be an 8-bit card.
E-Mail all offers to:
IO10702@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Thanks.
-Merv
| 6misc.forsale |
I have a Windows 3.1 package for sale. New stil in shrink wrapped. I am
asking for $35. I will consider to trade a used 1.44M floppy drive. Leave
a message if interested.
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <GRABINER.93Apr23112924@germain.harvard.edu> writes:
> But it is subject to all kinds of bias, and is almost completely
useless
> for first basemen. From the raw stats, there is no way to tell
which of
> a first baseman's putouts were made on throws from other fielders,
and
> which were made on his own plays; likewise, you can't tell whether
a
> double play was 6-4-3 or 3-6-3. Fielding Runs thus gives a first
> baseman no credit for putouts or double plays, only for assists and
> errors.
But ingnoring putouts is biased in yet another way. Range is
not the only thing that makes a good firstbaseman. The ability
to field all sorts of balls thrown to him: digging some out of the
dirt, stretching for others, and so forth is important. Thus,
putouts do provide some information. Maybe what we need is a
comparision of how many balls were thrown to the area of the
first baseman vs. how many he actually got.
--
Jim Mann
Stratus Computer jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1qkcok$s9i@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ci946@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John K. Gever) writes:
>Public health experts will tell you that you are far more likely
>have your gun stolen, use it yourself on a family member or
>have it used on you than you are to use it on an actual criminal.
Actually, they won't. What they'll tell you is that if you add up the
number of suicides, murders of one drug dealer by another, legit
self-defenses of a battered spouse, and so on, you'll end up with a
number that is much larger than the number of self-defense killings
against strangers committed in the bedroom. (BTW - they didn't
honestly count the latter either, but let's not quibble.) They
try to claim that comparison is between the costs of self-defense
and the benefits, but they're wrong.
This comparison doesn't measure the costs of self-defense and it
doesn't measure the benefits either. For example, the goal is not to
kill the attacker, whatever your relationship to him, but to stop him.
While the number of killings may be proportional to the number of
stops, it isn't equal.
Anyone who confuses that comparison with an honest evaluation
is either lying or....
-andy
--
| 16talk.politics.guns |
bgardner@pebbles.es.com (Blaine Gardner) writes:
>In article <1993Apr20.195116.10738@ncsu.edu> martenm@chess.ncsu.edu (Mar
Marten) writes:
>>
>>I am looking for a new tank bag now, and I wondered if you, as follow
>>FJ1100/1200 owners, could make some suggestions as to what has, and has
>>not worked for you.
>With the FJ's large, flat gas tank, I'd imagine that almost anything
>would work. Personally, I'm quite happy with my Eclipse standard tank
>bag.
Me too. Even after I bought the 3-piece Krauser K2 set. Now and then,
DK puts them on sale for 50 bux or so to clear out inventory, but they
never seem to to go away. They are the Volkswagens of tank bags, I guess.
BTW, the late Paul O' Neill showed me a trick with a pair of pliers that
will extend their life considerably. When the zipper starts to separate
behind the pull (because of age and wear), squash the pull body with the
pliers just a bit to tighten it back up. I would have tossed my bag three
years ago, but this fixed it up and kept it secure and reliable.
Chuck Rogers
car377@torreys.att.com
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <kmr4.1718.735827952@po.CWRU.edu>, kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:
> In article <C63AEC.FB3@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz) writes:
>
> >The "R Us" thing is trademarked. I don't know if Charles
> >Lazarus is dead or alive, but I'd be careful, because with
> >a name like Lazarus, he might rise again just to start a
> >lawsuit.
>
> The "R Us" is not trademarked, but the "Backwards R Us" is, I
> believe.
Yup, I think you're right. My mistake. Now, how do I make
an "R" backwards using a computer keyboard?
I'll bet the gods know how (this is alt.atheism, after
all). Tell you what, if all my "R"s start coming out
backwards when I type from now on, I'll become a believer.
(And that's not asking for miracles. If I asked for a miracle,
I'd ask for a real miracle, like for Pat Buchanan to become
an out-of-the-closet drag queen - well...maybe that wouldn't be
so miraculous, but I think he'd look fabulous in a feather
boa and a sequined hat like Mia Farrow wore in Gatsby.)
Dean Kaflowitz
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <1993Apr21.181628.23279@news.columbia.edu> ayr1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Amir Y Rosenblatt) writes:
>In article <1993Apr19.214951.19180@bnr.ca> zbib@bnr.ca writes:
>It was shafting on the part of the Arab land owners for doing it
>without notifying their tenant farmers and for not being responsible
>enough to make provisions for them, but rather just leaving
>them to their fate.
If a landlord sells an apartment building "vacant" to another landlord
and fails to notify his tenants, they just might find themselves out
on the street all of a sudden. The seller may be a scoundrel and a
crook but this doesn't make the buyer a "thief", as Israelis are so
often called here on tpm.
>>It is interesting though that you acknowledge that the
>>palestinians were shafted. Do many Israelis or Jews share
>>your opinion ? Do you absolve the purchaser from
>>any ethical commitments just because it wasn't written down?
>
>I don't know if others share this opinion. It is mine,
>and I'm sure there are some who agree and some who don't
>The way I see it, the fallahin were caught in circumstances
>beyond their control, in that since they didn't own the land,
>they didn't have a say. Of course, now for the sake of the "greater
>Arab unity" the Arabs are angry that the land was sold to the Jews
>(an act that is illegal in Jordan), but when it happened, it was just
>business.
The Arabs that lived along the coast in Western Palestine, later to be
called Israel, were shafted by their brother Arabs just as they've
been shafted for decades since then by their Arab bretheren. Somehow,
though, the Arab call has continued to blame Israel, not only for the
Syrian landowner sell-out in Western Palestine (Israel) but even for
the occupation of Eastern Palestine (Jordan) by the Hashemites. This
is just more of refusing to take blame for one's own actions.
>>infra-structure etc...). IMHO the Palestinians have grounds
>>to contest the legality of the purchase, say in world court.
If your job was eliminated in a corporate takeover, you could probably
go to court, too. You'd probably lose, though.
--
Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Ten years from now, George Bush will
American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1993Apr19.131311.25871@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>, nodine@lcs.mit.edu
(Mark H. Nodine) wrote:
>
> In article <C5L39p.2qz@news.udel.edu>, johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston) writes:
> |> In article <1993Apr16.144750.1568@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> nodine@lcs.mit.edu (Mark H. Nodine) writes:
> |> >I don't know about the specific problem mentioned in your
> |> >message, but I definitely had SCSI problems between my
> |> >Q700 and my venerable Jasmine Megadrive 10 cartridge
stuff deleted
> |>
> |> I doubt this is a Quadra-specific problem. I had to get
> |> rid of my "venerable" Bernoulli 20 last year (with enough
stuff deleted
> |> might fix the problem - in my case the cartridges wouldn't
> |> format/mount/partition for A/UX.
>
> All I know is that the Megadrives worked perfectly on both my
> Mac Plus and my Powerbook 140. It was for this reason I assumed
> the problem had something to do with the Quadra. Even with the
> Quadra, they mostly worked OK. The problem occurred when I ejected
> a cartridge from a drive: it would start popping up dialog boxes
> saying "This cartridge must be formatted with Jasmine Driveware"
> even though there was no cartridge in the drive.
>
> --Mark
The problem mentioned last is a known Quadra SCSI problem, it was heavily
discussed last year and an Apple employee pointed out that there was a
one byte error in the SCSI driver routine for the Quadra's (at least the
700
and 900). System 7.1 should not have that problem, for most people the
solution was to get an updated driver from the drive manufactor. In my
case MASS Microsystems wrote a new driver which fixed the problem on my
Quadra
700, all that occured early last year.
Michael S. Kluskens
kluskens@radar.nrl.navy.mil
Opinions expressed are the author's and not those of his employer.
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <C5J2M2.312@acsu.buffalo.edu> dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Cybard) writes:
>From: dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Cybard)
>Subject: Re: HELP: Problem w/ 14.4K modem & Win3.1 [ANSWER]
>Keywords: modem, terminal, windows
>Date: 15 Apr 93 13:53:59 GMT
>First of all, thank you all for the replies! The question and answer follow:
>
>dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Cybard) writes:
>
>>I just purchased an Infotel 144/DF Internal 14.4 Kpbs modem for my
>>486DX-33. I have a Logitech bus-mouse on IRQ-5, a SoundBlaster on IRQ-7,
>>and an I/O card with LPT1, COM1, COM2, and a game port. The modem is set
>>to COM4 and IRQ-3. The modem works with the Quick-Link_II software that it
>>came with, but I can't get it to work with the Terminal accessory that is
>>included with Windows 3.1. It gives me an error that some other device is
>>using COM4. What is the problem? How do I fix it?
>
>The problem was that windows checks all com ports upon startup. Both COM4
>and COM2 use IRQ-3, so windows considers this a conflict. Quick-Link
>somehow is not bothered by this. My solution was to disable COM2, since I
>have no need for it. (I don't even use COM1!)
>
I have precisely the same problem with my P.C. Logic 2400 (crap) modem!
All the DOS packages work fine, none of the Windows ones do.
OK, so how do I dissable COM2!!!!
Help!
Gary Donald Mills
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <C5sqyA.F7v@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, tbrent@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Timothy J Brent) writes...
>In article <C5r4IA.A21@acsu.buffalo.edu> v111qheg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (P.VASILION) writes:
>>
>> Brian, this who thing is not about someone
>>thinking they are THE SECOND COMMING. Its about **YOUR** civil rights. Would
>>you want the FEDS to come marching into your home with a warrant that probably
>>wouldn't stand up in court, arrest you and your family after attempting to kill
>>you and haul you off to jail without due process? This is what has happened
>>in Texas. With the Davidians all dead, no one will know the truth - only
>>what the White House wants you to think. Government does not exist for you!
>>Government exists for itself and will do what ever it needs to preserve
>>itself.
>
>Probably not. But then, I don't pack heavy weaponry with intent to use it.
>You don't really think he should have been allowed to keep that stuff do
>you? If so, tell me where you live so I can be sure to steer well clear.
Well, this is still the land of the free for the time being. Individuals
are supposed be able to do what they please unless it infringes upon the rights
of someone else. Owning FULLY automatic machine guns is also permitted by
law if you have a CLASS III FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSE and have paid the transfer
tax. If you are refering to the .50 cal the feds claim the BD to have had,
I have used .50 cal for 3000 yard target shooting. It a legitimate and
challenging sport.
>The public also has rights, and they should be placed above those of the
>individual. Go ahead, call me a commie, but you'd be singing a different
Ah, I see Mr Spock! How logical! Well, again, this is the USA and
we have had a long tradition for standing up for individual freedoms and
liberties. That is what is written in the Constitution, If you dont like it,
then find another government where the citizens are its slaves. You'd
like it there with that philosophy of yours.
>tune if I exercised my right to rape your daughter. He broke the law, he
No, you right. You'd probably not be breathing! Especially since
I intend to encourage her to learn how to handle a handgun!
>was a threat to society, they did there job - simple.
A threat to whom? He was out in the middle of nowhere waiting for
the Apolcalypse. His neighbors even said that he never bothered anyone!
Who can you justify your statement?
>
>> Support your First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth, and Eighth
>>Amendment rights, lest they be taken away from you just as the FBI did
>>to the Davidians. Think about it.
>
>I'll support them all (except no. 2)
One of these days, you too will pick up a firearm and learn to use
it and you will defend your Second Amendment right, knowingly or not, willingly
or not. The statistics are not in your favor.
In this age you must support the liberty of the individuals. If not,
then this nation is condemmed to a totalitarian regime. Orwell's 1984 is
comming true, only ten years late.
>| | |
>| Timothy J. Brent | A man will come to know true happiness, |
>| BRENT@bank.ecn.purdue.edu | only when he accepts that he is but a |
>|=========$$$$==================| small part of an infinite universe. |
>| PURDUE UNIVERSITY | -Spinoza |
>| MATERIALS SCIENCE ENGINEERING | [paraphrased] |
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>________________________________________________________________________________
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<<STANDARD DISCLAIMERS>>
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power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on
another and will become as venal and oppressive as the government from which
we separated."
-- Thomas Jefferson, 1821
| 18talk.politics.misc |
|> If the FBI started the fire, why didn`t people flee the
|> burning building?
|>
|> James Dusek
James, it could be that they were determined to stay together in the compound
no matter what happened. Perhaps the fire was accidental, and the DB simply
refused to leave the compod. Perhap they died fighting the fire? who knows.
we will have to wait and see. i persaonlly find it hard to believe that they
would all agree to burn themselves up! what a horrible way to go.
jim shirreffs
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <136390006@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com>, pi@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Paul Ilgenfritz) writes:
>
> I think the Go Video dual cassette machines do a direct tape to tape copy
> which transfers Macrovision to the copy. I you can find one of these, it
> would be worth a try.
Go-Video machines used in HQ2 mode will copy even the MacroVision.
Go-Video phone number (602)998-3400.
Ask for sales department. Since the state of Arizona does not go on
Daylight Savings time, we effectively are in Pacific time zone.
Allen Sullivan
Designing various stuff for GO-Video
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <Apr.2.23.41.04.1993.607@romulus.rutgers.edu> kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) writes:
>In article <1pa6pt$63r@access.digex.com> hess@access.digex.com (Paul Hess) writes:
>> that drag the US down and cause problems at home and abroad.
>Rank balderdash! America's reputation abroad has become tarnished
>because of feckless and pusillanimous cowards who apparently do not
>have the requisite gonads to stand up for American honor and dignity.
Don't be ridiculous, Kaldis. I suggest you give the "Ugly American"
concept, which I can easily see you demonstrating, a good hard second look.
>> The American Way is not the ONLY way, it's not necessarally the BEST
>> way, and it is incredibly arrogant to even think that.
>
>The American Way may not be the only way, and you may not consider it
>to be necessarily the best way, but, by God, it's _OUR_ way and we're
>going to stick with it! If you can't go along with the program, then
>perhaps you should consider moving elsewhere.
Dear God. Didn't this die out in the fifties with McCarthy and the
blacklists?
>> I've spent quite a bit of time in different provinces of Canada and
>> let me tell you, it is very refreshing to spend time with people who
>> are not full of arrogant nationalism and empty patriotism.
>That is exactly the _PROBLEM_ with Canadians! They don't stand for
>anything with certitude.
Didn't your mother ever teach you not to generalize? I am a Canadian, and
I stand up for _too many_ things with _too much_ certitude.
>> The Canadians I know well enough to say this about, seem to have a
>> great deal of pride in their provinces and their country, but they
>> aren't blinded by flags and ideals like many Americans are.
>Could this be because they are bereft of ideals?
Uh huh. This must explain the world reknowned, record low American crime
rate. I see now, it's all becoming so clear to me.
>> Well, I've said too much,
>Yes you have.
No he hasn't.
>> but I was so angered by your words that I felt I had to say something.
>> Sorry to intrude.
>You pipsqueak! You mouse! If you are sorry to intrude then why do
>it? Don't you have the courage of your convictions? Hell, do you
>even have any convictions to start with? What kind of example of
>manly dignity is this? Sheesh!
Remarkable audacity and misguidance. What you take for your own courage,
sir, is nothing more than simple loud-mouthedness coupled with unrestrained
bragging.
--
"Please allow me to introduce myself. SYMPATHY
I'm a man of wealth and taste. FOR THE DEVIL
I've been around for long, long years. the Laibach
Stolen many a man's soul, and faith." remixes
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Today's atrocity in Waco has finally impelled me to start working on
something I've been thinking about for some time. Over the last few
years I have heard of one case after another of government running
completely amok. Unfortunately, most people are oblivious of the
government's crimes and still think of it as their protector. So I
intend to put together what I call the "American Horror File": a
compilation of cases where the American government has run roughshod
over the rights of its citizens over the last few years, focusing
especially on deaths and injuries resulting from no-knock warrants,
and financial ruin to innocents resulting from civil forfeiture laws,
but including any other cases for which I can find decent
documentation. I hope to make people blood-boiling, artery-bursting,
red-hot enraged at their government.
The end result will probably be a book in electronic form (ASCII text
and postscript files) detailing the government's crimes of recent
years. This book will be distributed at cost, and I will encourage
people to post copies to BBS's, send copies on disk to friends, and
print out copies and give them to neighbors.
This is a call for your help. Any information that you can send me on
how government is running amok will be greatly appreciated. I would prefer
information that is well-documented, with sources given, about specific
instances of governmental abuses. I also welcome anyone who wants to
join me in collecting and researching information for this project.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin S. Van Horn | Is your religion BATF-approved?
vanhorn@bert.cs.byu.edu |
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1993Apr16.200100.23703@scott.skidmore.edu> jrogoff@scott.skidmore.edu (jay rogoff) writes:
>There is a book that you can find in sale catalogues occasionally
>called _Jewish Baseball Stars_, and baseball mavin Peter Bjarkman has
>compiled a pretty definitive list of Jewish ballplayers in the bigs.
I wish I hadn't sold my copy of Jewish Baseball Stars. It's a Short Shelf
(i.e., the one on top of the toilet tank) Special. The writing in that
books is so astonishingly awful -- every sportswriting cliche taken to
the nth degree and then mangled -- that it's funny.
Rusinow is the author, I think.
Roger
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Hi.. Me and My roomate are going to redecorate the "living room" and
we thought it would be a cool idea to have a license plate from every
state in the US and then from whereever else we could find, like canada,
Mexixo, even some European ones.
If anyone has any ideas or knows someone that could help us out
please let me know.... The more recent, the better, but anything
would be nice.
Either that or if you have an old plate hanging around... (hint hint!)
Kev
wanderer@camelot.bradley.edu
Kevin C Murphy
1312 West Main Street #421
Peoria IL 61606
| 7rec.autos |
I have a brand new, never used 12 inch mac to scsi cable for sale. I'm
asking for $15 + shipping......tell me if this is too high....i don't think
it is..
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| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Ithaca technical support can be reached at:
tech_support@ithaca.com
or by phone at:
510-523-5900
--
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Ithaca Software Skylane N613WD
eric@ithaca.com Oakland Flyers
| 1comp.graphics |
True rumor. Fact! A big three way deal!
Eric Lindros going to Ottawa Senators. And Senators get $15mill from
Montreal.
Montreal gets Alexander Daigle (the first round pick from Senators)
Philly gets Damphousse, Bellow, Patrick Roy and a draft pick.
--
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| |__| | If it's there and you can see it - it's real
| () | If it's there and you can't see it - it's transparent
|______| If it's not there and you can't see it - you erased it!
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <93059@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt4356c@prism.gatech.EDU (James Dean Barwick) writes:
...
>more on permenent swap files...
>
>i'm sure everyone who has an uncompressed part of their compressed hard disk
>has seen the message "you have selected a swap file greater than the suggested
>size...windows will only use the size suggested...do you wan't to create this
>swap file anyway" or something like that.
>
>well, a friend of mine (ROBERT) called microsoft and asked them what and why.
>what they said is that windows checks the amount of free disk space and
>divides that number by 2. Then it checks for the largest contiguous block
>of free disk space. Windows then suggests the smaller of the two numbers.
>
>They also said that under absolutely no circumstances...NONE!...will windows
>uses a swap file larger than the suggested size. Well...that's what he
>said!
>
>I call bull@#$#. If this is true why does windows report the memory is
>available to me if it's not going to use it?
I think the support droid was malfunctioning and confused the disk space
limit with the virtual address space limit. As far as the disk is
concerned, you are limited only by the amount of contiguous free space.
The limit that causes the message, "Windows will only use ...," is the
amount of virtual address space that the Virtual Memory Manager will
create, and this is a function of the amount of free memory that you have
when Windows starts.
In the [386enh] section of SYSTEM.INI, you can specify a parameter:
PageOverCommit=multiplier
The following description is from the Windows Resource Kit:
This entry specifies the multiplier what determines the amount of
linear address space the VMM will create for the system, which is
computed by rounding up the amount of available physical memory to
the nearest 4 MB and then multiplying that value by the value
specified for PageOverCommit=. Increasing this value increases the
amount of available linear address space, causing the size of data
structures to increase. This also increases paging activity
proportionately and can slow down the system. You can specify a
value between 1 and 20. The default is 4. To change this entry,
you must edit SYSTEM.INI.
--
Bob Nichols
AT&T Bell Laboratories
rnichols@ihlpm.ih.att.com
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
shirriff@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff) writes:
> Since archiving would be such a powerful tool and so easy to do, why
> wouldn't it happen?
Not enough magtape.
Seriously, do you have any idea how much traffic flows through the US phone
system in a single day?
Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <1993Apr4.051942.27095@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>,
maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
> And after the Leafs make cream cheese of the Philadelphia side tomorrow
> night the Leafs will be without equal.
>
> The Leafs are the best team in the Campbell Conference.
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm
>
> --
> Roger Maynard
> maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
More like Philadelphia making dust out of dead Leafs.
Roger why do you continue to embarass yourself with your brash predictions?
They got whitewashed by a last place team. Granted Philly is pretty decent
but the "best team in the Cambell Conference" would have beaten a last
place team.
--
Scott E. Humphrey, Chemical Engineering, University of Tulsa
hse31913@vax1.utulsa.edu
Bruins for The Cup!!!
Opinions expressed are those of the individual, not of the U of Tulsa.
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <kbanaian.488.735081194@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu> kbanaian@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu (King Banaian) writes:
>In article <1993Apr17.201310.13693@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
>>In article <dasmith.734719640@husc.harvard.edu> dasmith@husc8.harvard.edu (
>David Smith) writes:>>Granted, the simple fact of holding down a job will
>improve these kids' chances>>of getting another job in the future, but what
>inner city kid would want to hold>>down just one more minimum wage job when
>there is so much more money to be made>>dealing drugs?
>>
>>What suburban kid would want to hold down a minimum wage job when there is so
>>much more money to be made dealing drugs?
>>
>>Yet, somehow, surburban kids do hold down minimum wage jobs. So do inner
>>city kids, when give the chance. Any reason you think that inner city kids
>>are incapable of doing legitimate work?
>
>I suppose the correct answer is not "family values"?
>
>S'pose not. Never mind. Sorry.
>
Are you assuming that families in the inner city don't have family values ?
I sure hope not.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
I thought the first thread was hilarious, so here goes another post.
Some more background information on what has happened to my poor batteries.
One year, I left the batteries in the garage. The garage is Unheated.
They were left in their places that they needed to be. One in the riding
lawnmower (what a lux) and one in each motorcycle. The battery in the
riding lawnmower was about 3-4 years old, and one of the cycle batteries
was new, and one was around 5 years old. Upon spring time, I discovered
that all of the batteries were dead, and needed to be recharged. They all
worked properly, except for the older ones, and they had to be replaced
about halfway through the summer. (they had originally been stored
in the garage, and I think I remember my dad charging them in spring)
Last year, I decided to bring them in to the basement, which has two parts.
one is dirt and brick, and the other is concrete. I brought in all three, and
discovered in the spring, (about 15 days ago) that not only were the batteries
dead, but when I put the charger on them, the charger said "HMMMMMMMM" and
the amp-meter read around 1,000,000,000 (In other words, it was pinned)
the internal circut tripped, and I went on to the other batteries. They
were the same.
Realizing that we still had 2 GIGANTIC sailboat batteries, also lead
acid, I decided to put the charger on them. (these had been sitting for around 1 and a half years, on the brick and dirt part) and noticed that they only
needed a small charge, around 2 hours or so on trickle. I tested them
by using them at the local gas station for giving jump starts, and they
worked fine for around 25 of 'em.
This leads me to believe one of several things.
1) I bought really #$%tty batteries last year. (sorta true)
2) the concrete has something to do with the discharge of the
batteries.
3) There was enough moisture to short out the terminals in the
room where the concrete is,
4) The dirt room was able to absorb the moisture in the air
better than concrete.
(BTW, I can almost waterski in the dirt room)
Any other ideas?
*could be the aliens, anything is possible.*
| 12sci.electronics |
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| 13sci.med |
In article <116172@bu.edu>
jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
>> I'm not in a position to say, since I know nothing
>> about the situation. That does not, in my estimation, qualify me
>> as having my head up my ass.
>
>
>Bob, I never accused you of having your head up your ass! It takes
>me quite some time in dealing with someone before accusing them of
>having their head up their ass. I was accusing the original poster
>(Benedikt, I believe) of being so impaired.
>
After insult, Gregg resorts to lies:
In article <115670@bu.edu>
jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
>> Could you maybe flesh it out just a bit? Or did I miss the full
>> grandeur of it's content by virtue of my blinding atheism?
>
>You may be having difficulty seeing the light because you
>have your head up your ass. I suggest making sure this is
>not the case before posting again.
>
That's was the original answer. While it does not say that he has the head
necessarily up its ass, it would be meaningless and pointless if it was not
insinuated.
Benedikt
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <1993Apr21.145716.17491@i88.isc.com> jeq@lachman.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
Freebie and the Bean, GREAT chase scene on a trials bike!
----===== DoD #8177 = Technician(Dr. Speed) .NOT. Student =====----
Stolen Taglines...
* God is real, unless declared integer. *
* I came, I saw, I deleted all your files. *
* Black holes are where God is dividing by zero. *
* The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out. *
* Earth is 98% full.... please delete anyone you can. *
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <1993May14.024638.14575@news.uiowa.edu> mau@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Mau Napoleon) writes:
>Greeks do not like Turks not because of what they did to us but because of
>what they plan to do to us.
Let me improve this one for you, then. For nearly one thousand years,
the Turkish and Kurdish people lived on their homeland - the last
one hundred under the oppressive Soviet and Armenian occupation. The
persecutions culminated in 1914: The Armenian Government planned and
carried out a Genocide against its Muslim subjects. 2.5 million Turks
and Kurds were murdered and the remainder driven out of their homeland.
After one thousand years, Turkish and Kurdish lands were empty of Turks
and Kurds.
The survivors found a safe heaven in Turkiye.
Today, x-Soviet Armenian government rejects the right of Turks and
Kurds to return to their Muslim lands occupied by x-Soviet Armenia.
Today, x-Soviet Armenia covers up the genocide perpetrated by its
predecessors and is therefore an accessory to this crime against
humanity.
x-Soviet Armenia must pay for its crime of genocide against the Muslims
by admitting to the crime and making reparations to the Turks and Kurds.
Turks and Kurds demand the right to return to their lands,
to determine their own future as a nation in their own homeland.
...On this occasion, we once again reiterate the unquestioned
justice of the restitution of Turkish and Kurdish rights and...
- We demand that the x-Soviet Armenian Government admit its
responsibility for the Turkish and Kurdish Genocide, render
reparations to the Muslim people, and return the land to its
rightful owners. The recognition of the Genocide has become an
issue which cannot be delayed further, and it is imperative that
artificial obstacles created for political manipulations be removed.
- We believe the time has come to demand from the the United States
that it formally recognizes the Turkish and Kurdish Genocide, adopts
the principles of our demands and refuses to accede to Armenian pressures
to the contrary.
- As taxpayers of the United States, we express our vehement
protest to the present U.S. Government policy of continued
coddling, protection and unqualified assistance towards x-Soviet
Armenia.
- Our territorial demands are strictly aimed at x-Soviet Armenia's.
Source: "From Sardarapat to Sevres and Lausanne" by Avetis Aharonian. The
Armenian Review, Vol. 16, No. 3-63, Autumn, Sep. 1963, pp. 47-57.
p. 52 (second paragraph).
"Your three chiefs, Dro, Hamazasp and Kulkhandanian are the ringleaders
of the bands which have destroyed Tartar villages and have staged
massacres in Zangezour, Surmali, Etchmiadzin, and Zangibasar. This is
intolerable. Look - and here he pointed to a file of official documents
on the table - look at this, here in December are the reports of the last
few months concerning ruined Tartar villages which my representative
Wardrop has sent me. The official Tartar communique speaks of the
destruction of 300 villages."
p. 54 (fifth paragraph).
"Yes, of course. I repeat, until this massacre of the Tartars is stopped
and the three chiefs are not removed from your military leadership I
hardly think we can supply you arms and ammunition."
"...it is the armed bands led by Dro, Hamazasp and Kulkhandanian who
during the past months have raided and destroyed many Tartar villages in
the regions of Surmali, Etchmiadzin, Zangezour, and Zangibasar. There are
official charges of massacres."
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In <16BB4C522.I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de> I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) writes:
>In article <1993Apr17.122329.21438@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
>darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) writes:
>
>>>>"AND IT IS HE (GOD ALMIGHTY) WHO CREATED THE NIGHT AND THE
>>>>DAY, AND THE SUN AND THE EARTH: ALL (THE CELETIAL BODIES)
>>>>SWIM ALONG, EACH IN ITS ROUNDED COURSE." (Holy Quran 21:33)
>>
>>>Hmm. This agrees with the Ptolemic system of the earth at the centre,
>>>with the planets orbitting round it. So Copernicus and Gallileo were
>>>wrong after all!
>>
>>You haven't read very carefully -- if you look again, you will see that
>>it doesn't say anything about what is circling what.
>
>Anyway, they are not moving in circles.
Oops, sorry, my words, not the words of the Qur'an.
>Nor is there any evidence that
>everything goes around in a rounded course in a general sense. Wishy-
>washy statements are not scientific.
Note that "(the celestial bodies)" in the above verse is an
interpolation (which is why it is in brackets) -- it is the translator's
(incorrect, IMHO) interpretation.
Here is Maurice Bucaille's translation (he studied Arabic for his
research into the Qur'an and science) of this verse:
"(God is) the One Who created the night, the day, the sun and the moon.
Each is travelling in an orbit with its own motion." (Qur'an :33)
The positive aspect of this verse noted by Dr. Maurice Bucaille is that
while geocentrism was the commonly accepted notion at the time (and for
a long time afterwards), there is no notion of geocentrism in this verse
(or anywhere in the Qur'an).
Fred Rice
darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
| 0alt.atheism |
1. Make a new Newsgroup called talk.politics.guns.PARANOID or
talk.politics.guns.THEY'R.HERE.TO.TAKE.ME.AWAY
2. Move all postings about waco and burn to (guess where)..
3. Stop posting #### on this newsgroup
We are all SO glad you're trying to save us from the evil
goverment, but would you mail this #### in regular mail to
let's say 1000 people ????
This is not a .signature.
It's merely a computergenerated text to waste bandwith
and to bring down the evil Internet.
Thomas Parsli
thomasp@ifi.uio.no
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1993Apr24.153158.13756@news.yale.edu> Warren DeLano
<warren@laplace.biology.yale.edu> writes:
>
> Does anyone know of a program or utility that will
> enable the Mac to read Unix (i.e. NeXT) 3.5 in. disks?
>
> Thanks,
> Warren
> warren@laplace.biology.yale.edu
I don't know the answer to your direct question, but if the Mac Superdrive can
read MS-DOS disks (can it??) then you can transfer files between the NeXT and
a Mac by using MS-DOS formatted disks since the NeXT *can* read/write that
format. And if you're interested in transferring files, you can also do it
over the serial port using kermit.
cheers,
-Avery
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <sandvik-190493200323@sandvik-kent.apple.com> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
>I'm mostly angry why the Davidians didn't spare the children the
>awful suffering. See my other posting, I'm in a bad temper.
Well, dozens of children left the compound between the original BATF assualt
and the FBI assault 7 weeks later. So if Koresh really wanted to kill
children, why did he let so many go?
--
Legalize Freedom
| 19talk.religion.misc |
The clipper chip's User key is formed by:
R1 = E[D[E[N1;S1];S2];S1]
R2 = E[D[E[N2;S1];S2];S1]
R3 = E[D[E[N3;S1];S2];S1]
Why is the triple-encrytion used? Is it just to gain an effective
increase in keyspace to defeat a potential keysearch? (If so, why use
80 bit keys?) Not knowing anything about the Skipjack algorithm, it's
not really possible to guess whether this makes it harder or easier to
guess S1,S2.
Why are N1, N2, and N3 formed as they are? It would be facinating to
see the Skipjack algorithm, to look for ways of attacking it that require
three ciphertext blocks formed in that odd way.
Where do the 34-bit constant values that are concatenated with the
serial number to form N1,N2,N3 come from? Are they changed from chip to
chip, or session to session? (Even if they're published in the NY Times,
if SkipJack is resistant to known-plaintext attacks, when using triple-
encryption, then there's no break in security. But why allow that kind
of weird format? If those three 34-bit values are truly-random bits, then
maybe it's used to ensure that a known-plaintext attack on SkipJack, if
it exists, can't be easily used to derive S1 and S2 for a whole production
run of these chips....)
Does Dorothy Denning read this group? If not, is someone on the group
forwarding questions like these to her, or Martin Hellman, or anyone else
who's seen more details about the chip?
--John Kelsey
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <7480237@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers) writes:
>> Hi. I was doing research on subliminal suggestion for a psychology
>> paper, and I read that one researcher flashed hidden messages on the
>> TV screen at 1/200ths of a second. Is that possible?
> Might
>even be a vector ("strokewriter") display, in which case the lower limit
>on image time is anyone's guess (and is probably phosphor-persistence limited).
Back in high school I worked as a lab assistant for a bunch of experimental
psychologists at Bell Labs. When they were doing visual perception and
memory experiments, they used vector-type displays, with 1-millisecond
refresh rates common.
So your case of 1/200th sec is quite practical, and the experimenters were
probably sure that it was 5 milliseconds, not 4 or 6 either.
>Bob Myers KC0EW >myers@fc.hp.com
Steve
--
Steve Tell tell@cs.unc.edu H: 919 968 1792 | #5L Estes Park apts
UNC Chapel Hill Computer Science W: 919 962 1845 | Carrboro NC 27510
Engineering is a _lot_ like art: Some circuits are like lyric poems, some
are like army manuals, and some are like The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy..
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <199304201011.AA00801@mosque.cs.huji.ac.il> dny@cs.huji.ac.il (Danny Halamish) writes:
>
>Well, I've installed DOS 6.0 in three different systems, with and without
>stacker; A friend installed it in two other systems, both with stacker.
>
>Not a single problem. (except perhaps some minor bugs with config.sys
>menus)
He's right ya know. I've helped to install Dos 6 on about 4 computers now,
mine included. On one, he bought the Stacker to Doublespace converter,
and it worked fine (rather, he sent in the coupon for the converter).
In other cases, I've run the doublespace installation without a problem
when compressing a new drive, compressing free space, or whatever else.
Seems to work for me.
>Ofcourse, we did NOT, repeat, NOT run any program called "install"
>or "setup" or "a very sophisticated AI auto-configuring setup
>installation program that will think for you and do what you never wanted to
>do but couldn't stop it from doing"
Well, I ran the normal SETUP thing and it worked fine for whatever that's
worth.
>Also, DBLSPACE is crap. It writes about 40% slower than stacker, reads about
>20% slower, and compresses about 10% LESS. All tests were made on the same
>computer with the same disk, no cache, and the same (big) files were used.
Couldn't agree more. On my 486-50 I don't miss the speed. It's still
faster than a normal disk read would be. As for the less compression,
I've sacrificed that in favor of the convenience of having the dblspace.bin
load before anything else. With Stacker, any changes to your config.sys
or autoexec.bat meant rebooting twice so it could update those.
Personally, I'm waiting for Stacker 4.0 to come out and implement those
hooks and stuff. Plus, the DEFRAG that comes with DOS is okay, but I
much prefer COMPRESS from PC-TOOLS for sheer bells and whistles. Plus,
defrag is sooooo sloooow on a dblspace drive.
>But, DOS 6 is quite good; reformat disks? I honestly don't understand WHY
>you had to do this.
Ditto.
koberg
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1993Apr26.124340.28057@sni.co.uk> mje@sni.co.uk (Mike Evis) writes:
>Hi there,
>
>Does anyone know whether the PUFF RF design package is available
>via ftp from any site? As I understand it, it is in the public
>domain - please correct me if I'm wrong on this one.
>
PUFF is sold by CalTech, although very inexpensively for the quality.
Source was also available for the earlier releases for a nominal charge,
but I'm not sure if this practise is continued.
Regards, Stu Beal, VE3MWM, U009@CSX.CCIW.CA,
National Water Research Institute, Burlington, Ontario, Canada.
"We'd made it through yet another nuclear winter and
the lawn had just trapped and eaten its first robin." - Kyle J. Spiller
| 12sci.electronics |
Pair of Polk S4 for sale
Brand New never opened
$220.00
craigb@rpi.edu
| 6misc.forsale |
gchen@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu writes in article <C55DoH.2AI@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>:
>
> Greetings!
>
> Does anybody know if it is possible to set VGA graphics mode to 640x400
> instead of 640x480? Any info is appreciated!
Some VESA bios's support this mode (0x100). And *any* VGA should be able to
support this (640x480 by 256 colors) since it only requires 256,000 bytes.
My 8514/a VESA TSR supports this; it's the only VESA mode by card can support
due to 8514/a restrictions. (A WD/Paradise)
--
I am not responsible for anything I do or say -- I'm just an opinion.
Robert J.C. Kyanko (rob@rjck.UUCP)
| 1comp.graphics |
In sci.astro, dmcaloon@tuba.calpoly.edu (David McAloon) writes:
[ a nearly perfect parody -- needed more random CAPS]
Thanks for the chuckle. (I loved the bit about relevance to people starving
in Somalia!)
To those who've taken this seriously, READ THE NAME! (aloud)
--
Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. Enjoy the buffet!
| 14sci.space |
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