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In article <1993Apr15.012537.26867@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>, sharpe@nmesis.enet.dec.com (System PRIVILEGED Account) writes:
>
>In article <C5FtJt.885@sunfish.usd.edu>, rfox@charlie.usd.edu (Rich Fox, Univ of South Dakota) writes:
>|>
>|>In article <1993Apr10.213547.17644@rambo.atlanta.dg.com>, wpr@atlanta.dg.com (Bill Rawlins) writes:
>|>
>|>[earlier dialogue deleted]
>|>
>|>>|> Perhaps you should read it and stop advancing the Bible as evidence relating
>|>>|> to questions of science.
>|>
>|>[it = _Did Jesus exist?_ by G. A. Wells]
>|>
>|>> There is a great fallacy in your statement. The question of origins is
>|>> based on more than science alone.
>|>
>|>Nope, no fallacy. Yep, science is best in determining how; religions handle
>|>why and who.
>|>
>
>Rich, I am curious as to why you and others award custody of the baby to
>theists and religion?
I hope I didn't award custody, Rich. I purposely used "handle" in order to
avoid doing so - i.e., that happens to be what religions do (of course there are
aberrations like "scientific" creationism). I used "best" in part to indicate
that science currently has a time of it with why and who, so these domains are
mostly ignored. I also attempted to be brief, which no doubt confused the
matter. As an aside, for science I should have written "how and when". Nobody
seems to argue over what.
>Are they [theists, theologians] any better equiped to investigate the "who and
>why" than magicians, astrologers, housewives [not being sexists], athiests or
>agnostics.
Seems to me that the answer would vary from individual to individual. I'm not
trying to be evasive on this, but from a societal perspective, religion works.
On the other hand, sometimes it is abused and misused, and many suffer, which
you know. But the net result seems positive, this from the anthropological
perspective on human affairs. You might call me a neo-Fruedian insofar as I
think the masses can't get along without religion. Not that generally they are
incapable; they just don't, and for myriad reasons, but the main one seems to
be the promise of immortality. Very seductive, that immortality. Therefore
it seems that theologians are better equipped than the others you mention for
dispensing answers to "who and why". I suggest that this holds regardless of
the "truth" in their answers to who and why simply because people believe.
In the end, spiritual beliefs are just as "real" as scientific facts and
explanation (CAUTION TO SOME: DO NOT TAKE THIS OUT OF CONTEXT).
>Do you suggest that the "who and why" will forever be closed to scientific
>investigation?
No. In fact, I don't think it is closed now, at least for some individuals.
Isn't there a group of theoretical physicists who argue that matter was
created from nothing in a Big Bang singularity? This approach might
presuppose an absence of who and why, except that it seems it could be argued
that something had to be responsible for nothing? Maybe that something doesn't
have to be supernatural, maybe just mechanistic. But that's a tough one for
people today to grasp. In any case, theory without empirical data is not
explanation, but then your question does not require data. In other words,
I agree that theorizing (within scientific parameters) is just as scientific
as explaining. So the answer is, who and why are not closed to scientists, but
I sense that science in these realms is currently very inadequate. Data will
be necessary for improvement, and that seems a long way off, if ever. Pretty
convoluted here; I hope I've made sense.
>It seems to me that 200 or so years ago, the question of the origin of life on
>earth was not considered open to scientific enquiry.
I agree generally. But I prefer to put it this way - the *questions* of how,
when, who and why were not open to inquiry. During the Enlightenment,
reason was reponsible for questioning the theological answers to how and when,
and not, for the most part, who and why. Science was thus born out of the
naturalists' curiosity, eventually carting away the how and when while largely
leaving behind the who and why. The ignorant, the selfish, the intolerant, and
the arrogant, of course, still claim authority in all four domains.
>|>Rich Fox, Anthro, Usouthdakota
>Did like your discussion around AMHs, and I did figure out what AMH was from
>your original post :-)
Much obliged. Funny how facts tend to muddle things, isn't it? Well, I am
sure there are plenty of "scientific" creationist "rebuttals" out there
somewhere, even if they have to be created from nothing.
[just for the record, again, AMH = anatomically modern humans]
Best regards :-),
Rich Fox, Anthro, Usouthdakota
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993Apr20.085508.5787@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> nflynn@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
> I agree that Hirschbeck was just doing what he was instructed to do
>and also that Gant should have listened to him. However, what is with this
>policy of trying to speed up the games. You are the first person
>( non-mediot ) I have seen endorse this policy.
I wholeheartedly endorse it.
I have no problem with the
>length of games at all and am tired of the ESPN crowd ( and other announcers )
>bitching about it. I have never been in a ballpark filled with people looking
>at their watches and shouting "Hurry up!" If I cough up big bucks for a
>ticket, I don't mind a game that last more than 2:10. I really don't
>understand it.
Haven't been to many A's games, have you?
Seriously, I don't mind a baseball game that lasts a long time if it lasts
a long time because there is good baseball being played. However, I don't
like 3-2 games that take 3+ hours, because there's a lot of dead time going
on in that game. I don't find anything exciting about watching batter or
pitcher wander around between pitches, or watching the catcher make a slow
walk to the mound, or watching lots of pitcher changes for no good reason
(Whitey Herzog used to be the master of this; the game could be way out of
reach, and he'd still be making switches for platoon advantage).
I want to see the game, not people standing around. I don't really enjoy
watching NFL football games in person, for example, because there's so much
dead time (you don't really notice how much dead time there is if you watch
it on television, because they're busy showing you replays). I don't like
that college basketball games have so many time outs at the end of the game
(the NCAA has made some moves to try to alleviate this problem for next
year: they're going to stop the clock after made baskets late in games next
year, and they're going to a 35 second clock).
There's also a difference in how tolerant I am of long games if I'm
watching them on the tube, and if I'm going there in person. For me, going
to an A's game has become a major commitment of time, one that I'm not
willing to make that often: the length of their games is costing the A's
revenue from me.
Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.hp ]
[ Author was Gordon Lang ]
[ Posted on 5 Apr 1993 23:25:27 GMT ]
[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware ]
[ Author was Gordon Lang ]
[ Posted on 5 Apr 1993 23:19:01 GMT ]
I need a device (either an ISA board or a subsystem) which will
take two RGB video signals and combine them according to a template.
The template can be as simple as a rectangular window with signal
one being used for the interior and signal two for the exterior.
But I beleive fancier harware may also exist which I do not want
to exclude from my search. I know this sort of hardware exists
for NTSC, etc. but I need it for RGB.
Please email and or post any leads....
Gordon Lang (glang@smail.srl.ford.com -or- glang@holo6.srl.ford.com)
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <C5Fp8B.2Co@megatest.com> alung@megatest.com (Aaron Lung) writes:
>If I'm not mistaken, altering the odometer is *illegal*. Furthermore,
>I surmise it'll be tough to alter BMW's odometer if you got at it.
>Some of the newer BMW's have electronic odometers making it even
>more tamperproof.
On the cars mentioned - 3 series from the late 80's the "electronic"
odometer is really a mechanical drum type odometer, that is driven
by pulses from a speed sensor on the rear axle. These pulses are
converted into mechanical pulses that turn the odometer - and speedometer.
No way changing or erasing an eprom is going to change the mileage
reading. It also means the odometer is just as easy (or hard) to
change as any other mechanical odometer.
On the other hand it is a bit easier to disconnect the speed sensor
and run the car with no speedometer or odometer reading...a simple
switch will do the job. It also will disable the speed limiter,
which will enable the car to reach it's full speed. ;-)
--
Alan L. Peterman (503)-684-1984 hm & work
al@qiclab.scn.rain.com
It's odd how as I get older, the days are longer, but the years are shorter!
| 7rec.autos |
In article <1993May6.014049.7349@seas.smu.edu> pts@seas.smu.edu (Paul Thompson Schreiber) writes:
>
> GULF WAR II: THE MEDIA OFFENSIVE
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> By Douglas Kellner
> Lies Of Our Times, May 1993
Gulf has changed the third parts's perception of Arabs.
1. Before, people tended to think Arabs have tough character. After seeing
Iraqis begging for surrender, people do not gave Arabs much weight.
2. People tended to think Arabs are a united people in fighting Isrealis.
After Gulf War, seeing some Arab nations beated up Iraqis in order to
waiver the debt to U.S. and Kuwaitis consistly trying to draw West nations
to hit Iraq again, people started to see Arab World as a dog cage, echoing
sound of barking.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <93105.152944BR4416A@auvm.american.edu> <BR4416A@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>The trackbal on my PB140 no longer moves in the horizontal direction. When I
>called the nearest Authorized Apple Service person I was told that it probably
>needed replacing and that would cost me over $150! Ouch!
> Can anyone recommend a less expensive way to fix this problem? One strange
>symptom of the problem is that when I take the ball out of the socket and shine
>a light into the hole I can make the cursor move horizontally by moving the
>wheel with my finger, it works fine that way but won't work if I turn off the
>light. Any suggestions or comments?
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Ben Roy .......just a poor college student.......internet<br4416a@american.edu>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ben,
Since you're obviously adept enough to understand how the trackball works,
the only thing short of repairing it that I can think of is a thorough
cleaning of all the parts, and then checking for the proper placement of
the little blue rollers. Since they aren't fixed in position on their
stainless steel pins, you might try sliding them into a slightly different
position. On my PowerBook 100, I can slide them almost completely out of
contact with the trackball. In fact, one of the notes from sumex on fixing
the trackball advocates sliding the roller so that its _edge_ contacts the
ball, not the center cylindrical area.
I've done this with my PB100, and it does seem to improve the feel, but
needs to be adjusted from time to time. I just popped open one of our
office's PB170s, and while there isn't as much latitude for movement, one
could still adjust the roller slightly. If your PB140 is the same it might
help.
I would suspect the most likely culprit to be a slippery blue roller. If
you can take it out, clean it with a mild soapy solution, or isopropyl
alcohol. Also, be sure the ball is grease-free.
If you drop the ball in minus the retaining ring, roll the ball and see
if it is actually causing the axle to spin.
If all this still doesn't solve it, then maybe a new one is in order. :-(
It could be an electrical connection, in which case replacement would be
necessary. But my experience with both mice and trackballs has been that
dirt has been the normal problem, not an electrical malfunction.
Hope this helps,
Murray
--
Murray M. Altheim "Ils ont l'orteil de Bouc, & d'un Chevreil l'oreille,
Instructional Consultant La corne d'un Chamois, & la face vermeille
CSU, Sacramento Comme un rouge Croissant: & dancent toute nuict
altheimm@csus.edu Dedans un carrefour, ou pres d'une eau qui bruict."
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <1993Apr19.124834.5640@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) writes:
|>
|> The difference, as I understand it, is that when one _invests_, one
|> shares in the risk of the venture, whereas when a bank _lends_ money
|> while charging interest, the bank takes little risk.
The entire business of a Bank is the management of risk. That's
what a Bank is for. That's what people who work for Banks do.
|>
|> Something like that anyway (financial stuff ain't my thing).
OK, but in that case why are you posting about it? What I
hear you saying is "I don't understand this stuff, but if Islam
says it's so, it's so".
jon.
| 0alt.atheism |
Can someone tell me where to find 120volt 3 watt 40 mA fans that
fit the standard computer mounting size )ie. 3 and 1/8 inch wide
and 4 inches diagonal from hole to hole (hole=where bolt or screw
goes through. I have found higher (NOISY) fans that are 120 v
6 watt, but I need a quite fan. I can use 12 volt as well, but
found just about all 12 volt fans to be noisy. I also find that
the 120 v fans are not only quieter, but the blade shape has a lot
to do with it. I have a dead fan that was quiet in it's day. It
has long blades (like fan blades in a tturbo engine on a jet is
the only way I can describe it. The dead fan is ETRI Model 126LH.
Actually it's not dead, it just makes a hideous rattle noise so
it's stealthy qualities are void. Thanks.
| 12sci.electronics |
Haven't we wasted enough bandwidth on this silly discussion already!!
[Please no flames -- let sanity prevail]
--
Richard MacLennan
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Here's a question for all you electrical engineers out there:
I bought an 'Infrared detector module' at Radio Shack for $3.95 - it is a
little gizmo that senses infrared remotes and produces an output signal. Then
I hooked the output through a transistor to an infrared LED. The circuit works
like a minature remote control extender in my car - All remote commands are
relayed to the CD player hidden in the glove compartment. It works fine with
my Denon CD player, but when I tried to build the same circuit for a friend's
VCR, it didn't work.
The circuit appears to work for other remotes (you can see infrared with a
Sony CCD camcorder) but coincidentally it only seems to work for my CD
player...
Any advice would be appreciated....
Brian
---
UBSILER @ MSUVX1.MEMST.EDU
| 12sci.electronics |
I found it very interesting that Atlas depended on pressure to
maintain tank geometry....leads me to the question: ? have any
of the SSTO concepts explored pressurized tankage such that the
launch configuration would be significantly different from the
reentry one? I have long been facinated by pnumatic structures
as conceived and built by Frei Otto and others, a "ballon" tank
SSTO sounds very clever.
| 14sci.space |
Cyberspace Buddha (cb@wixer.bga.com) wrote:
: renew@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Rene Walter) writes:
: >over where it places its temp files: it just places them in its
: >"current directory".
: I have to beg to differ on this point, as the batch file I use
: to launch cview cd's to the dir where cview resides and then
: invokes it. every time I crash cview, the 0-byte temp file
: is found in the root dir of the drive cview is on.
I posted this as well before the cview "expert". Apparently, he thought he
knew better.
Matthew Zenkar
mz@moscom.com
| 1comp.graphics |
ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:
>In article <1sueslINNa6g@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>,
>jovanovic-nick@yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic) writes:
>> "Muslim" in ex-Yugoslavia was a *nation* not a religion. In fact, not
>> all Muslims in B-H are followers of Islam. Therefore, there do (did?)
>> exist in ex-Yugoslavia "Christian Muslims."
>Yeah! That's it! :) You've really outdone yourself this time Nick...
>Don't forget the "Davidian Muslims"... :)
>Islam is not a race. It's a religion. You can be white, black,
>Fijian or Alaskan. I guess you didn't absorb too much of the Malcolm
>X interest circulating. You see, the whole point of Islam is that it
>stresses equality amongst all peoples. Now, I do realize this is
>difficult for you to comprehend given your staunch beliefs in Serbian
>ethnic cleansing, but give it a try, it's really not that difficult.
Is your stomach all right? Unable to digest your lunch?
Cool down... In the context of Bosnia muslims are a nation.
And nobody talked about them being a race.
>> It is a
>> civil war in which the terms of secession are being negotiated with guns
>> instead of pens. The Croat, Muslim, and Serb political leaders *all*
>> chose to fight over the terms of secession instead of compromising and
>> peacefully negotiating multilateral secession agreements.
>Terms of secession? You are, of course, joking, right Nick? Nobody
>*chose* to fight. Bosnia and Croatia were *internationally*
>recognized nations when the Serbs attacked and started on their
>well-documented genocide. That makes them an outside aggressor. It's
>a simple genocide, a classical example of ethnic cleansing. There is
>no question of civil war...
And Yugoslavia was a recognized nation. If you apply the principle
of self determination to Yugoslavia then you should apply it to
Croatia and Bosnia. Of course, you might want to apply again to
Kossovo.
Bye,
Yannis.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1993Apr26.195313.4581@eye.com> jesse@eye.com (Jesse Lackey) writes:
>In article <1rguqoINNrc@edna.cc.swin.edu.au> alan@saturn.cs.swin.OZ.AU (Alan Christiansen) writes:
>>I believe that the algorithms you can get that will only draw convex
>>polygons can be much more efficient than those that can draw
>>concave / self intersecting polygons.
>>This efficiency can largely be attributed to the fact that
>>simple convex polygons only have a left and a right edge on each scan line.
>>Complex (figure 8 type polygons) can be a bit trickier.
>
>It is true the convex algorithm is faster than a general concave/multi outline
>algorithm, but not tremendously faster. I spent awhile implementing and
>optimizing both flavors, and the convex turned out about 10% faster. This is
>all C (on HP PA-RISC the compiler got the inner loop [shooting the span] as
>fast as possible, as far as I could tell). For any sort of game the database
>to render is known ahead of time, and can be made all convex. Definitely the
>way to go.
>
Ok, thanks for help everyone! I still haven't found quite what I'm looking for,
but I've got finals coming up soon so I have to put all this on hold.
Thanx,
//Lucas.
| 1comp.graphics |
Archive-name: atheism/resources
Alt-atheism-archive-name: resources
Last-modified: 5 April 1993
Version: 1.1
Atheist Resources
Addresses of Atheist Organizations
USA
FREEDOM FROM RELIGION FOUNDATION
Darwin fish bumper stickers and assorted other atheist paraphernalia are
available from the Freedom From Religion Foundation in the US.
Write to: FFRF, P.O. Box 750, Madison, WI 53701.
Telephone: (608) 256-8900
EVOLUTION DESIGNS
Evolution Designs sell the "Darwin fish". It's a fish symbol, like the ones
Christians stick on their cars, but with feet and the word "Darwin" written
inside. The deluxe moulded 3D plastic fish is $4.95 postpaid in the US.
Write to: Evolution Designs, 7119 Laurel Canyon #4, North Hollywood,
CA 91605.
People in the San Francisco Bay area can get Darwin Fish from Lynn Gold --
try mailing <figmo@netcom.com>. For net people who go to Lynn directly, the
price is $4.95 per fish.
SET FREE
Atheist stickers, T-shirts and books.
Write to: Set Free, P.O. Box 3065-192, Garden Grove, CA 92642.
AMERICAN ATHEIST PRESS
AAP publish various atheist books -- critiques of the Bible, lists of
Biblical contradictions, and so on. One such book is:
"The Bible Handbook" by W.P. Ball and G.W. Foote. American Atheist Press.
372 pp. ISBN 0-910309-26-4, 2nd edition, 1986. Bible contradictions,
absurdities, atrocities, immoralities... contains Ball, Foote: "The Bible
Contradicts Itself", AAP. Based on the King James version of the Bible.
Write to: American Atheist Press, P.O. Box 140195, Austin, TX 78714-0195.
or: 7215 Cameron Road, Austin, TX 78752-2973.
Telephone: (512) 458-1244
Fax: (512) 467-9525
PROMETHEUS BOOKS
Sell books including Haught's "Holy Horrors" (see below).
Write to: 700 East Amherst Street, Buffalo, New York 14215.
Telephone: (716) 837-2475.
An alternate address (which may be newer or older) is:
Prometheus Books, 59 Glenn Drive, Buffalo, NY 14228-2197.
AFRICAN-AMERICANS FOR HUMANISM
An organization promoting black secular humanism and uncovering the history of
black freethought. They publish a quarterly newsletter, AAH EXAMINER.
Write to: Norm R. Allen, Jr., African Americans for Humanism, P.O. Box 664,
Buffalo, NY 14226.
United Kingdom
Rationalist Press Association National Secular Society
88 Islington High Street 702 Holloway Road
London N1 8EW London N19 3NL
071 226 7251 071 272 1266
British Humanist Association South Place Ethical Society
14 Lamb's Conduit Passage Conway Hall
London WC1R 4RH Red Lion Square
071 430 0908 London WC1R 4RL
fax 071 430 1271 071 831 7723
The National Secular Society publish "The Freethinker", a monthly magazine
founded in 1881.
Germany
IBKA e.V.
Internationaler Bund der Konfessionslosen und Atheisten
Postfach 880, D-1000 Berlin 41. Germany.
IBKA publish a journal:
MIZ. (Materialien und Informationen zur Zeit. Politisches
Journal der Konfessionslosesn und Atheisten. Hrsg. IBKA e.V.)
MIZ-Vertrieb, Postfach 880, D-1000 Berlin 41. Germany.
For atheist books, write to:
IBDK, Internationaler B"ucherdienst der Konfessionslosen
Postfach 3005, D-3000 Hannover 1. Germany.
Telephone: 0511/211216
Books -- Fiction
THOMAS M. DISCH
"The Santa Claus Compromise"
Short story. The ultimate proof that Santa exists. All characters and
events are fictitious. Any similarity to living or dead gods -- uh, well...
WALTER M. MILLER, JR
"A Canticle for Leibowitz"
One gem in this post atomic doomsday novel is the monks who spent their lives
copying blueprints from "Saint Leibowitz", filling the sheets of paper with
ink and leaving white lines and letters.
EDGAR PANGBORN
"Davy"
Post atomic doomsday novel set in clerical states. The church, for example,
forbids that anyone "produce, describe or use any substance containing...
atoms".
PHILIP K. DICK
Philip K. Dick Dick wrote many philosophical and thought-provoking short
stories and novels. His stories are bizarre at times, but very approachable.
He wrote mainly SF, but he wrote about people, truth and religion rather than
technology. Although he often believed that he had met some sort of God, he
remained sceptical. Amongst his novels, the following are of some relevance:
"Galactic Pot-Healer"
A fallible alien deity summons a group of Earth craftsmen and women to a
remote planet to raise a giant cathedral from beneath the oceans. When the
deity begins to demand faith from the earthers, pot-healer Joe Fernwright is
unable to comply. A polished, ironic and amusing novel.
"A Maze of Death"
Noteworthy for its description of a technology-based religion.
"VALIS"
The schizophrenic hero searches for the hidden mysteries of Gnostic
Christianity after reality is fired into his brain by a pink laser beam of
unknown but possibly divine origin. He is accompanied by his dogmatic and
dismissively atheist friend and assorted other odd characters.
"The Divine Invasion"
God invades Earth by making a young woman pregnant as she returns from
another star system. Unfortunately she is terminally ill, and must be
assisted by a dead man whose brain is wired to 24-hour easy listening music.
MARGARET ATWOOD
"The Handmaid's Tale"
A story based on the premise that the US Congress is mysteriously
assassinated, and fundamentalists quickly take charge of the nation to set it
"right" again. The book is the diary of a woman's life as she tries to live
under the new Christian theocracy. Women's right to own property is revoked,
and their bank accounts are closed; sinful luxuries are outlawed, and the
radio is only used for readings from the Bible. Crimes are punished
retroactively: doctors who performed legal abortions in the "old world" are
hunted down and hanged. Atwood's writing style is difficult to get used to
at first, but the tale grows more and more chilling as it goes on.
VARIOUS AUTHORS
"The Bible"
This somewhat dull and rambling work has often been criticized. However, it
is probably worth reading, if only so that you'll know what all the fuss is
about. It exists in many different versions, so make sure you get the one
true version.
Books -- Non-fiction
PETER DE ROSA
"Vicars of Christ", Bantam Press, 1988
Although de Rosa seems to be Christian or even Catholic this is a very
enlighting history of papal immoralities, adulteries, fallacies etc.
(German translation: "Gottes erste Diener. Die dunkle Seite des Papsttums",
Droemer-Knaur, 1989)
MICHAEL MARTIN
"Atheism: A Philosophical Justification", Temple University Press,
Philadelphia, USA.
A detailed and scholarly justification of atheism. Contains an outstanding
appendix defining terminology and usage in this (necessarily) tendentious
area. Argues both for "negative atheism" (i.e. the "non-belief in the
existence of god(s)") and also for "positive atheism" ("the belief in the
non-existence of god(s)"). Includes great refutations of the most
challenging arguments for god; particular attention is paid to refuting
contempory theists such as Platinga and Swinburne.
541 pages. ISBN 0-87722-642-3 (hardcover; paperback also available)
"The Case Against Christianity", Temple University Press
A comprehensive critique of Christianity, in which he considers
the best contemporary defences of Christianity and (ultimately)
demonstrates that they are unsupportable and/or incoherent.
273 pages. ISBN 0-87722-767-5
JAMES TURNER
"Without God, Without Creed", The Johns Hopkins University Press, Baltimore,
MD, USA
Subtitled "The Origins of Unbelief in America". Examines the way in which
unbelief (whether agnostic or atheistic) became a mainstream alternative
world-view. Focusses on the period 1770-1900, and while considering France
and Britain the emphasis is on American, and particularly New England
developments. "Neither a religious history of secularization or atheism,
Without God, Without Creed is, rather, the intellectual history of the fate
of a single idea, the belief that God exists."
316 pages. ISBN (hardcover) 0-8018-2494-X (paper) 0-8018-3407-4
GEORGE SELDES (Editor)
"The great thoughts", Ballantine Books, New York, USA
A "dictionary of quotations" of a different kind, concentrating on statements
and writings which, explicitly or implicitly, present the person's philosophy
and world-view. Includes obscure (and often suppressed) opinions from many
people. For some popular observations, traces the way in which various
people expressed and twisted the idea over the centuries. Quite a number of
the quotations are derived from Cardiff's "What Great Men Think of Religion"
and Noyes' "Views of Religion".
490 pages. ISBN (paper) 0-345-29887-X.
RICHARD SWINBURNE
"The Existence of God (Revised Edition)", Clarendon Paperbacks, Oxford
This book is the second volume in a trilogy that began with "The Coherence of
Theism" (1977) and was concluded with "Faith and Reason" (1981). In this
work, Swinburne attempts to construct a series of inductive arguments for the
existence of God. His arguments, which are somewhat tendentious and rely
upon the imputation of late 20th century western Christian values and
aesthetics to a God which is supposedly as simple as can be conceived, were
decisively rejected in Mackie's "The Miracle of Theism". In the revised
edition of "The Existence of God", Swinburne includes an Appendix in which he
makes a somewhat incoherent attempt to rebut Mackie.
J. L. MACKIE
"The Miracle of Theism", Oxford
This (posthumous) volume contains a comprehensive review of the principal
arguments for and against the existence of God. It ranges from the classical
philosophical positions of Descartes, Anselm, Berkeley, Hume et al, through
the moral arguments of Newman, Kant and Sidgwick, to the recent restatements
of the classical theses by Plantinga and Swinburne. It also addresses those
positions which push the concept of God beyond the realm of the rational,
such as those of Kierkegaard, Kung and Philips, as well as "replacements for
God" such as Lelie's axiarchism. The book is a delight to read - less
formalistic and better written than Martin's works, and refreshingly direct
when compared with the hand-waving of Swinburne.
JAMES A. HAUGHT
"Holy Horrors: An Illustrated History of Religious Murder and Madness",
Prometheus Books
Looks at religious persecution from ancient times to the present day -- and
not only by Christians.
Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 89-64079. 1990.
NORM R. ALLEN, JR.
"African American Humanism: an Anthology"
See the listing for African Americans for Humanism above.
GORDON STEIN
"An Anthology of Atheism and Rationalism", Prometheus Books
An anthology covering a wide range of subjects, including 'The Devil, Evil
and Morality' and 'The History of Freethought'. Comprehensive bibliography.
EDMUND D. COHEN
"The Mind of The Bible-Believer", Prometheus Books
A study of why people become Christian fundamentalists, and what effect it
has on them.
GEORGE H. SMITH
"Atheism: The Case Against God", Prometheus Books
Describes the positions of atheism, theism and agnosticism. Reviews many
of the arguments used in favour of the existence of God. Concludes with an
assessment of the impact of God on people's lives.
Net Resources
There's a small mail-based archive server at mantis.co.uk which carries
archives of old alt.atheism.moderated articles and assorted other files. For
more information, send mail to archive-server@mantis.co.uk saying
help
send atheism/index
and it will mail back a reply.
mathew
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| 0alt.atheism |
In article <1993Apr14.132300.27816@kosman.uucp>, kevin@kosman.uucp (Kevin O'Gorman) writes:
> Anybody seen the date get stuck?
>
> I'm running MS-DOS 5.0 with a menu system alive all the time. The machine
> is left running all the time.
>
> Suddenly, the date no longer rolls over. The time is (reasonably) accurate
> allways, but we have to change the date by hand every morning. This involves
> exiting the menu system to get to DOS.
>
> Anyone have the slightest idea why this should be? Even a clue as to whether
> the hardware (battery? CMOS?) or DOS is broken?
I bet it suddenly started sticking when you started leaving the PC running the
menu all night. There is a limitation/bug in the date roll-over software in
PC's that means you have to be doing something like waiting for keyboard input
via a DOS call rather than a BIOS call (as menus often use) otherwise the code
to update the date after midnight never gets called.
Somebody might be able to correct the details in case I've mis-rememberred
them, but I think you have to change the menu program (if you have the sources)
or add a TSR or system patch or something. As far as I know the CMOS clock
keeps the right time (in fact about 7 seconds/day better than DOS's clock).
Mark Aitchison, University of Canterbury.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
I'd appreciate it greatly if someone could E-mail me the following:
(if you only know one, that's fine)
1) Specs for the 68040 (esp. how it compares to the Pentium)
2) Specs for the 68060 with estimated cost, release date, etc...
I'm interested in speeds, systems it can run (Windows NT, RISC, or whatever),
costs, bus info, register info. All the technical info.
I am hoping that the 68040 can win yet another battle against the intel people.
:) Thanks for any info you can give.
Thanks.
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In article <1993Apr26.103230.10618@spider.co.uk> keiths@spider.co.uk (Keith Smith) writes:
>OK will some one out there tell me why / how DOS 5
>can read (I havn't tried writing in case it breaks something)
>the Win/NT NTFS file system.
>I thought NTFS was supposed to be better than the FAT system
>
>keith
DOS 5.0/6.0 cannot read the NTFS file system, although the NTFS file system
can read the FAT file system of DOS. I have WindowsNT on a seperate
partition on my machine at home, and I can read my DOS disks from Windows NT,
but not vice-versa.
As far as the robustness of the file system, it seems to be very fast, and
I have yet to have a single problem with it. That doesn't prove it's better
than the FAT system though. Read the book 'Inside Windows NT,' it will give
you all the info you're looking for.
Scott
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| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <Apr.23.02.56.33.1993.3165@geneva.rutgers.edu>, andrew@srsune.shlrc.mq.edu.au (Andrew McVeigh) writes:
> The Bible's message is that we are to love all people, and
> that all people are redeemable. It preaches a message of
> repentance, and of giving. Unfortunately, all people have
> deceitful hearts, and are capable of turning this message
> around and contorting it in sometimes unbelievable ways.
> This is also a fundamental Christian doctrine.
Andrew,
How I wish this were true, and how I long for the day in which it will
be true. But alas, it is not true of history. The Bible does not have a
message -- it has messages. And some of those are messages of repentance and
giving, to turn the other cheek, and do unto the least of these. But some
of the messages are the complete opposite. Like the isrealites order to
wipe out other tribes including women and children down to cattle, and
punished severely when they were less than complete about the job. Like
jews who are said to have cried out in Matthew, "His blood be upon our heads
and our childrens heads" A verse quoted in every pogrom from the crusades to
the holocaust. Have these been misunderstood? I think not. They have only
been understood too clearly. It is essential that christians grasp firmly
the good the bible teaches, the meek carpenter from Nazareth is a potent
symbol for how we should be, his teachings we must take to heart, but we
cannot ignore the other material in the bible which is not to our liking and
say those who live by that have misread it. To say that is only to chose a
point of interpretation and declare it normative. Such can be done with the
same legitmacy by anyone. Instead we must let the text critique the text.
Understanding that there is both good and bad in our sacred corpus, we test
all things and hold fast to that which is good.
>
>
> p.s. I believe that a line of questioning like you presented
> is, strangely enough, compatible with becoming a Christian.
> Certainly Christianity encourages one to question the behaviour
> of the world, and especially Christians. I praise God for
> Jesus Christ, and the fact that we can doubt our beliefs
> and still come back to God and be forgiven, time and time
> again.
>
At the risk of sounding heretical (well ok, more heretical) I don't think
that doubt is something which requires forgiveness, it is something which
requires introspection and reflection. If that is a sin, then there can
be no salvation, for doubt is an inescapble part of being human. Consider
Job. His friends had no doubt. Whereas Job had no doubt in himself but
doubted the wisdom and justice of God. When God finally did appear he
rebuked the friends and had job make sacrifices for them. To be a Christian
it to always have doubt, or not to have honesty.
Randy
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <C5LDI2.77u@odin.corp.sgi.com>, enolan@sharkbite.esd.sgi.com (Ed
Nolan) says:
>If the Islanders beat the Devils tonight, they would finish with
>identical records. Who's the lucky team that gets to face the Penguins
>in the opening round? Also, can somebody list the rules for breaking
>ties.
As I recall, the Penguins and Devils tied for third place last year
with identical records, as well. Poor Devils -- they always get screwed.
Yet, they should put a scare into Pittsburgh. They always do! Pens in 7.
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Contact for the '93-'94 '91 STANLEY CUP will have greater rewards.
Penn State Lady Lions '92 CHAMPIONS Mountains and Valleys are
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| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <C5qt5p.Mvo@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu
(Ken Arromdee) wrote:
>
> In article <115694@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
> >I think many reading this group would also benefit by knowing how
> >deviant the view _as I've articulated it above_ (which may not be
> >the true view of Khomeini) is from the basic principles of Islam.
>
> From the point ov view of an atheist, I see you claim Khomeini wasn't
> practicing true Islam. But I'm sure that he would have said the same about
> you. How am I, a member of neither group, supposed to be able to tell which
> one of you two is really a true Muslim?
Fred Rice answered this already in an early posting:
"The problem with your argument is that you do not _know_ who is a _real_
believer and who may be "faking it". This is something known only by
the person him/herself (and God). Your assumption that anyone who
_claims_ to be a "believer" _is_ a "believer" is not necessarily true."
In other words it seems that nobody could define who is a true and
false Muslim. We are back to square one, Khomeini and Hussein are
still innocent and can't be defined as evil or good Islamic
worshippers.
Cheers,
Kent
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| 0alt.atheism |
In article <15464@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>In article <1qvb5aINNmoi@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU writes:
>> In article <15378@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
># #From the Santa Rosa (Cal.) Press-Democrat, April 15, 1993, p. B2:
># #
># # Male sex survey: Gay activity low
>#
># Note this contradictory title- Gay Activity Low.
>
>Not really. The percentage of gays was low. Headline writers aren't
>noted for accuracy.
>
But you stated that this study was presented in a very accurate and
dependable way. This is confusing to the issue.
And if you read this title it implies that; gay sex (homosexual sex)
activities are low compared to the general population that they surveyed.
># # A new natonal study on male sexual behavior, the most thorough
># # examination of American men's sexual practices published since
># # the Kinsey report more than four decades ago, shows about
># # 2 percent of the men surveyed HAD ENGAGED in homosexual sex and
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
># # 1 percent considered themselves EXCLUSIVELY homosexual.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
># #
>Actually, 2% were either exclusively homosexual, or bisexual. You aren't
>readiing very carefully.
Well let us quibble- look at the above statement that you posted, I have marked
it with '^^^^^^', IT STATES THAT 1% ARE EXCLUSIVELY HOMOSEXUAL- IT STATES 2% ARE
OR HAVE ENGAGED IN HOMOSEXUAL SEX.
And please not the use of adjective here "HOMOSEXUAL SEX".
Now I stated that if we take 1% as homosexal this is a valid viewpoint.
I believe that you are either 1) you are not writing what you think you are
writing, 2) you can't read or remember what you wrote.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Question for those of you who seem to be fundamentalists (Stephen
Tice, the Cotera, Joe Gaut, et al)(apologies if I've mislabelled any
of you, I've only started reading t.r.m since the BD disaster. But I
know the Cotera is a fundy) and are defending Koresh and his beliefs
as an example of True Christianity under persecution from the the Big
Bad Secular State: what is your opinion of his reported sexual habits?
If the reports are accurate, what IYO does this say about the quality of
his Christianity? Or are the allegations just part of the Big
Cover-Up?
(I remain deliberately neutral on the cause of the fire: I wouldn't
put it past Koresh to have torched the place himself. On the other
hand, if the propane-tank-accident story is correct, I wouldn't put it
past the FBI to try to cover its ass by claiming Koresh did it. I
hope your government does a VERY thorough investigation of the whole
debacle, and I'll be disappointed if a few heads don't roll. The
authorities seem to have botched the original raid, and in the matter
of the fire, are guilty of either serious misjudgement, or reckless
endangerment.)
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| this->opinion = My.opinion; assert (this->opinion != CarletonU.opinion); |
"Somebody touched me / Making everything new / Burned through my life / Like a
bolt from the blue / Somebody touched me / I know it was you" - Bruce Cockburn
| 19talk.religion.misc |
(NDW)
>I would like to know how to STOP or uninstall this program!!
If an Uninstall icon doesn't exist in the Norton Desktop Apps
group:
Run NDW's install program with /u.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1993Apr14.152634.16128@pony.Ingres.COM>, jab@Ingres.COM (jeff bowles) writes:
> tfarrell@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Thomas Farrell) writes:
>>questions like "what kind of sexual perversions do you participate in?"
>>and you think he made a good case????? The arresting officer said the
>>bastards told him they did it on purpose and hoped the victim would die,
>>and you think the defense made a good case????? No wonder we're losing!
>>We're aparently not trying to win!
>
> The clip I saw was even worse than that. The defense attorney was asking
> something like "what have you done to serve YOUR country, as compared to
> these fine upstanding examples of patriotism?"
>
> I didn't see the response; I don't think it was shown on TV. I wish the
> response had been "I vote. I pay taxes. I pay my salary. I support the Bill
> of Rights, unlike you, Counselor."
>
> In my dreams :-(
>
> Now, the real question is, could this be a federal civil rights case, since
> the state case was a sham? (Sound like a well-known Los Angeles trial?) Probably
> not: fags and dykes aren't protected (for being fags and dykes) under civil
> rights laws.
>
>
I would doubt any civil rights case would be in order for the point that you
mentioned. Even if it were possible, I think it is a bad idea since it smacks
real strongly of double jeopardy. A civil case for damages is fine since that
is a trial that would proceed regardless of the first. I think a bad precedent
has already been set in the King trial in L.A. and something like this would
make it worse. Regardless of how bad anybody feels about this decision, it
must stand that charges of assault were not not proven against the three
marines and that's how it should stand.
Frank (who is still mad, but now somewhat sane)
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CHLOUPEK@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Department of Physics -- *The* Ohio State University
(Not just any Ohio State University)
"There is only one hard-and-fast rule about the place to have a party:
somebody else's place."
--P.J. O'Rourke
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Kent Sandvik (sandvik@newton.apple.com) wrote:
: In article <C5Mw03.9qr@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu>, bil@okcforum.osrhe.edu
: (Bill Conner) wrote:
: > I'd say that what one chooses to observe and how the observation is
: > interpreted and what significance it's given depends a great deal on
: > the values of the observer. Science is a human activity and as such,
: > is subject to the same potential for distortion as any other human
: > activity. The myth that scientists are above moral influence or
: > ethical concern, that their knowledge can be abstacted whole and pure
: > from nature untainted by the biases of the scientist, is nonsense.
: Bill, this is wonderfully phrased. I assume you understand that your
: statement is also undermining such human constructs as religion
: as well.
Kent,
I'll accept this as a compliment although I'm always a little paranoid
when visiting a.a, thanks. Yes I do know the extent of the statements
relevence, it's what I think of as human nature. I'm not sure it
undermines either religion or atheism since both claim special
knowledge about the Truth and since such claims are always suspect,
all we can learn from it is that humans are a very arrogant species.
My point is that we cannot ignore human nature when examining human
claims. The trick here then, is to find some way to abstract our
infinitely fallible nature from whatever reality is out there so we
can see what there is to see. I can think of no way this can be done.
Bill
| 0alt.atheism |
What is the reason for the push on clipper?
Two days after the lead story here in the Mercury Times (murky news)
there was another article on industrial espionage by the french.
Someone had said what can it hurt to allow the government to have
continued access to our communications, they already have it. The
problem is that, yes the do have access, and probably more than
we realize. The government wants exclusive access to communications
intercept here in the united states, cutting out other access detrimental
to the national security (tm).
I also doubt that a certain3 letter agency, that originated the encryption
algorithm and the chip designs needs to have anything to do with the
escrow system to continue their intercept effort.
Better yet, who owns the company doing the programming?
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <1993Apr23.144934.10462@asl.dl.nec.com>,
duffy@aslss02.asl.dl.nec.com (Joseph Duffy) wrote:
> In article <C5wI5n.19v@hilbert.cyprs.rain.com> max@hilbert.cyprs.rain.com (Max Webb) writes:
["it" is Big Bang]
> You sound absolutely convinced! Tell me how long did it last, what color
> was it?
Since you asked... from the Big Bang to the formation of atoms is about
10E11 seconds. As for the "color": bright. Very very bright.
>It must be so exciting to know for sure.
I don't. I believe the current theory of cosmology because it is fairly
well supported by observational evidence (not as well supported as, say
evolution or relativity, but that's another matter). You're the one who
proposes unquestioningly accepting religious dogma as fact (apologies if
you're not actually a creationist).
>By the way, it seems as
> though there is a fine line between "postulating new miracles" and postulating
> new theories.
The line is broader than you think. Theories are supported by evidence.
Miracles are supported by someone's say-so.
> +----------------------------------------------------------+
> | Joe Duffy duffy@asl.dl.nec.com |
> | NEC America, Inc. |
> | Advanced Switching Laboratory |
Justin Fang (justinf@cco.caltech.edu)
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| 19talk.religion.misc |
lioness@maple.circa.ufl.edu:
> Okay, I got enough replies about the Kubota Kenai/Denali systems that I
> will post a summary of their capabilities. [ ... ]
>
> GRAPHICS
>
> Transform Modules 1-6 1-6
> Frame Buffer Modules 5,10,20 5,10,20
> Frame Buffer 1280x1024x24bit 1280x1024x24bit
> double buffered double buffered
> Z-buffer 24-bit 24-bit
> Alpha/stencil 8-bit 8-bit
pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz):
| Does this mean they can either do alpha or stenciling, but not both
| simultaneously?
lioness@maple.circa.ufl.edu:
> Stereo support yes yes
> Other: both machines will double buffer or do
> stereo output per window. Both have an
> auxiliary video output that is RS-170A,
> NTSC, and PAL
pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz):
| Same question again, does this mean they can either do double
| buffering or stereo, but not both simultaneously?
For both these questions, it's an inclusive or. Alpha plus stencil is
supported (they're separate), as is double-buffered stereo.
______________________________________________________________________________
Steve Hollasch Kubota Pacific Computer, Inc.
hollasch@kpc.com Santa Clara, California
--- Barbie had it right; math IS hard. ---
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <ragraca.735252641@vela.acs.oakland.edu>,
ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca) writes:
|> The Pittsburgh Penguins games used to be
|> broadcast on KDKA 1020, but I don't know whether they will be pre-empted
|> by baseball (and moved to another station) or not. You can try those
|> if the local baseball teams aren't playing at the same time, anyway.
|>
|> --Randy
|>
The Pens are now being broadcast on 102.5 WDVE.
Carol
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1993Apr14.131032.15644@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>,
darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) wrote:
>
> It is my understanding that it is generally agreed upon by the ulema
> [Islamic scholars] that Islamic law applies only in an Islamic country,
> of which the UK is not. Furthermore, to take the law into one's own
> hands is a criminal act, as these are matters for the state, not for
> individuals. Nevertheless, Khomeini offered a cash prize for people to
> take the law into their own hands -- something which, to my
> understanding, is against Islamic law.
Yes, this is also my understanding of the majority of Islamic laws.
However, I believe there are also certain legal rulings which, in all
five schools of law (4 sunni and 1 jaffari), can be levelled against
muslim or non-muslims, both within and outside dar-al-islam. I do
not know if apostasy (when accompanied by active, persistent, and
open hostility to Islam) falls into this category of the law. I do know
that
historically, apostasy has very rarely been punished at all, let alone
by the death penalty.
My understanding is that Khomeini's ruling was not based on the
law of apostasy (alone). It was well known that Rushdie was an apostate
long before he wrote the offending novel and certainly there is no
precedent in the Qur'an, hadith, or in Islamic history for indiscriminantly
levelling death penalties for apostasy.
I believe the charge levelled against Rushdie was that of "fasad". This
ruling applies both within and outside the domain of an
Islamic state and it can be carried out by individuals. The reward was
not offered by Khomeini but by individuals within Iran.
> Stuff deleted
> Also, I think you are muddying the issue as you seem to assume that
> Khomeini's fatwa was issued due to the _distribution_ of the book. My
> understanding is that Khomeini's fatwa was issued in response to the
> _writing_ and _publishing_ of the book. If my view is correct, then
> your viewpoint that Rushdie was sentenced for a "crime in progress" is
> incorrect.
>
I would concur that the thrust of the fatwa (from what I remember) was
levelled at the author and all those who assisted in the publication
of the book. However, the charge of "fasad" can encompass a
number of lesser charges. I remember that when diplomatic relations
broke off between Britain and Iran over the fatwa - Iran stressed that
the condemnation of the author, and the removal of the book from
circulation were two preliminary conditions for resolving the
"crisis". But you are correct to point out that banning the book was not
the main thrust behind the fatwa. Islamic charges such as fasad are
levelled at people, not books.
The Rushdie situation was followed in Iran for several months before the
issuance of the fatwa. Rushdie went on a media blitz,
presenting himself as a lone knight guarding the sacred values of
secular democracy and mocking the foolish concerns of people
crazy enough to actually hold their religious beliefs as sacred.
Fanning the flames and milking the controversy to boost
his image and push the book, he was everywhere in the media. Then
Muslim demonstrators in several countries were killed while
protesting against the book. Rushdie appeared momentarily
concerned, then climbed back on his media horse to once again
attack the Muslims and defend his sacred rights. It was at this
point that the fatwa on "fasad" was issued.
The fatwa was levelled at the person of Rushdie - any actions of
Rushdie that feed the situation contribute to the legitimization of
the ruling. The book remains in circulation not by some independant
will of its own but by the will of the author and the publishers. The fatwa
against the person of Rushdie encompasses his actions as well. The
crime was certainly a crime in progress (at many levels) and was being
played out (and played up) in the the full view of the media.
P.S. I'm not sure about this but I think the charge of "shatim" also
applies to Rushdie and may be encompassed under the umbrella
of the "fasad" ruling.
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <C5tB2F.585@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, mliggett@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (matthew liggett) writes:
|> Manta's are also ve hot and fun cars too.
hahahahahahahahahahaha - thanks for that, I haven't laughed so much in
ages!
kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch
| 7rec.autos |
I was wondering if anyone out there has had the same problem I am having with
my Gateway 2000 486-33DX VL-Bus system with ATI Graphics Ultra Pro LB.
When I have my computer in any resolution other than 800x600, everything is
fine, but whenever I use it in 800x600 (Windows, AutoCAD, GIFs) the screen
gets about 1 1/2 inches shorter. At the very top and very bottom of the screen
there is about a 3/4" bar of black. The screen isn't cut off, it just squeezes
everything into the smaller space and messes up the aspect ratio. While I can
manually change the V-Size on the back, this is a pain in the ass, and it just
shouldn't happen anyway. I've called Gateway numerous times and they haven't
been able to help me at all. Two different times they sent me a new card, and
both times the new card didn't work at all in my computer. They even tried
to bill me for the first card because they didn't get it back in a couple of
days, when they TOLD me over the phone that they would wait more than 2 weeks
before billing my card. But their customer support is a different story...
So, if anyone has had this same problem, please let me know if you know what
to do. Hell, let me know if you don't have a solution, just so I know I'm
not the only one with this problem. Thanks in advance.
Jude M. Greer
jmgree01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu
P.S. I already tried going into the MACH 32 install program and manually set-
ting up the card. Doesn't work. Whenever I try to increase the vertical size
of the 800x600 screen, it just starts to cut off the top and bottom.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
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| 6misc.forsale |
In article <1993Apr22.102420.2694@sei.cmu.edu> sad@sei.cmu.edu (Susan Dart) writes:
>Amongst Penguins' fans there seems to be an inner calm that I've never
>experienced before this year with the Pens. The players and the fans have so
>much confidence in the team this year. We're savoring every game and saving
>our energy for the Stanley Cup.
That's not inner calm. It's boredom, and it's being spoiled. The Arena's
been as quiet as a church on many nights this year; too many of us just
take winning for granted. It's been seemingly forever since the team
lost, and we've forgotten what it's like to feel real excitement and
surprise at victory.
While I'm glad to have the Pens doing so well, in some ways it was a better
high back when the Pens beat the Bruins two years ago, and the Rangers last
year. Too much of a good thing is not always good for you.
rick
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
R >>>JD> ALL PC parallel ports that are compatable with the IBM standard,
R >>>JD> including the original IBM adaptor, are bi-directional.
NOT ALL PARALLEL PORTS ARE BI-DIRECTIONAL WITHOUT MODIFICATION.
My experience with the standard old zenith parallel port in their
original 286s proves that. They had the input direction disactiviated by
tieing them R/W select line of the circuit to Vcc. To make it bi ( which
I did ) I had to modify it by scraping off the trace and solder a jump to
the proper location. I thought that this was just lazy on the part of
Zenith ( they were not Zenith-Bull Group at that time).
-rdd
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| 12sci.electronics |
In article <9304221116.AA02093@pizzabox.demon.co.uk> gtoal@gtoal.com (Graham Toal) writes:
>: Does Dorothy Denning read this group? If not, is someone on the group
>: forwarding questions like these to her, or Martin Hellman, or anyone else
>: who's seen more details about the chip?
>
>Of course she does; it's just she's been toasted so often for being
>an NSA patsy that she's keeping her head down. You can always mail
>her directly as denning@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu,
>denning@cs.cosc.georgetown.edu or denning@cs.georgetown.edu
>
>G
I found the personal attacks on Prof. Denning pretty disgusting.
I don't agree with all her positions; but I think scholars can
disagree without the argument getting into the gutter.
If these personal attacks are what stopped Prof. Denning from
replying on issues of substance, they have cause real harm
to the serious debate here.
--
Gideon Yuval, gideony@microsoft.com, 206-882-8080 (fax:-883-8101;TWX:160520)
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <May.16.01.56.47.1993.6695@geneva.rutgers.edu>, wjhovi01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (Bill Hovingh, LPTS Student) writes:
|> scott@prism.gatech.edu (Scott Holt) writes:
|> > "Hate the sin but love the sinner" [...] My question is whether that
|> > statement is consistent with Christianity. I would think not.
|>
|> I'm very grateful for scott's reflections on this oft-quoted phrase. Could
|> someone please remind me of the Scriptural source for it?
It's not scriptural, but comes from the patristic age, I think:
something about "amare errantem, interficere errorem", which sounds
more like "love the errant, slay the error". No doubt someone else
will know in particular who minted the phrase. If I had to guess, I'd
blame :-) St Augustine, who seems to have had a gift for aphorism.
--
Richard Aquinas Chonak, norris@mit.edu
Sometimes, it's necessary to _act_ as if you believed.
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1993Apr23.171020.23982@csus.edu> kschang@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Kuo-Sheng (Kasey) Chang) writes:
>In article <rcstage1.128.735548462@urc.tue.nl> rcstage1@urc.tue.nl (Guido Klemans) writes:
>>In article <1993Apr22.163605.24784@csus.edu> kschang@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Kuo-Sheng (Kasey) Chang) writes:
>>[byteocide]
>>>What I believe the companies should do is implement the above plus
>>>a special patch once the user registers that loudly exclaims upon bootup
>>>"REGISTERED TO XXXXX -- address, city, state zip" and disables the above.
>>>Two benefits: 1) encourages registration, 2) cuts down on pirating and
>>>makes it more traceable, because if the patch's registration message is
>>>encrypted, it will be quite hard to change, and therefore provides a
>>>stable trail of who allowed their copy out of their hands, and thus
>>>violated their license agreement.
>>>
>>You take two copies with a different registration id, compare them byte for
>>byte and you know where they are located. Usually you will be able to
>>find out what is what after that.
>Probably, but the point is THE COMPANY make the registration patch, NOT
>YOU. Sure, you can probably find another registerred user and compare notes,
>but WHY? It's not hindering you in any way unless you are just hacking.
>[Problem about people who cut TOO MUCH from quoting...]
>>And what keeps me form registering as John Doe from the company Public
>>Domain, Yellow Brick Road 1, Tinseltown or something???
>Nothing, but if you read my WHOLE suggestion, I'm saying that you register
>via MAIL by mailing in your registration card, THEN the company send you
>the patch which includes the info you put on the registration card.
>--Kasey Chang
I'm glad to see this idea come up because I've had something similar in mind.
What if you had an authorization key that computed from the name and address
data. When the user registers, you don't even need to send executable code,
just compute his/her key and send him/her instructions to enter in the
appropriate place the following:
Name=Joe Doe
Address=123 Main Street
City=Anytown, CA
key=ldslfoialsdkcdsngsikhsfd
Every user needs a unique key. The executable can propagate as much as you
like, the author can respond to the registration by e-mail, post card,
whatever. Unauthorized users would have to put up with someone else's name
showing up (maybe on a main menu screen as well as a startup message).
Authorized users can make as many copies as they like, upgrade their
machines, whatever. The main motivation here is guilt and irritation at
seeing someone other than yourself as the "registered owner".
| 12sci.electronics |
cheong@solomon.technet.sg (SCSTECH admin) writes:
>Hi,
>sometime ago there are some discussions on gaining CompuServe access thru
>the Internet. But I seem to misplace those articles. Can someone please
>refresh me where (which site) I can telnet to to gain access.
Try telnet 128.196.128.234, login TO_CSERVE
This will get you into the CompuServe network. Enter hostname CIS and you'll get
the UserID prompt.
>Hopefully I can download files as well.
I haven't, if you can figure it out let me know. Also, let me know if your
backspace key works :)
>Thanks,
>Arthur Lim
>Email : arthur@mailhost.scs.com.sg
--------------------------
Craig Lewis
SAIC
703-318-4756
craig@monster.apd.saic.com
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
mrr@scss3.cl.msu.edu (Mark Riordan) writes:
[not very comprehensive list deleted]
There is a very comprehensive list in sci.math.symbolic,
which detailed descriptions of many packages.
(Especially you, Mark, should update your list :-) )
Here it is:
Available Systems
This is the list of currently developed and distributed software for
symbolic math applications. No informations is supplied on systems no longer
being supported like: SAINT, FORMAC, ALPAK, ALTRAN, MATHLAB, SIN, SAC, CAMAL,
ScratchPad, MuMath, SHEEP, TRIGMAN, ANALITIK, SMP or CCALC.
For more detailed info on any of the systems below, look into the directory
pub/Symbolic_Math in the anonymous FTP of "math.berkeley.edu". No particular
recommendation is made for any of these. If you want prices contact the
company. Programs are listed by (aprox.) the reverse order of the number of
machines they run on, in each class, general purpose systems first.
If you have any information to add to this list (we know we are missing
MuPAD & FELIX) please send it to :
ca@math.berkeley.edu
Paulo Ney de Souza
Department of Mathematics
University of California
Berkeley CA 94720 desouza@math.berkeley.edu
GENERAL PURPOSE
===============
Maple::
Type: commercial
Machines: Most impressive list of machines I seen for a program:
workstations (DEC, HP, IBM, MIPS, Sun, SGI, Apollo),
386 PC's, Mac, Amiga, Atari, AT&T 3B2, Gould, Convex,
NCR, Pyramid, Sequent, Unisys and Cray's.
Contact: maple@daisy.waterloo.edu
Waterloo Maple Software, 160 Columbia Street West,
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3L3
Phone: (519) 747-2373
Version: 5 Release 1
Comments: General purpose , source available for most routines ,
graphics support in 5.0. A demo of the program for PC-DOS
can be obtained from anonymous FTP at
wuarchive.wustl.edu:/edu/math/msdos/modern.algebra/maplev.zip
Mathematica::
Type: commercial
Machines: Cray YMP down to Mac's and PC's
Contact: info@wri.com, Phone: 1-800-441-MATH
Wolfram Research, Inc.
100 Trade Center Drive, Champaign IL 61820-7237
Version: 2.1
Comments: General purpose, Notebook interface on Next, Mac,
nice graphics.
Macsyma::
Type: commercial
Machines: Sun-3, Sun-4 (SPARC), VAX (UNIX and VMS), Apollo,
HP 9000, DEC RISC, PC386/DOS, Symbolics computers,
368/387 and 486 (no SX's) PC's.
Contact: macsyma-service@macsyma.com, Phone: 800-MACSYMA
Macsyma Inc, 20 Academy St., Arlington MA 02174-6436
Version: depends on machine: 417.100 is the latest (for Sun-4, HP,
and DEC RISC), 417.125 for PC's
Comments: General purpose, many diverse capabilities, one of the
oldest around. Includes propietary improvements from
Symbolics and Macsyma Inc. Descendant of MIT's Macsyma.
DOE-Macsyma:
Type: distribution fee only
Machines: GigaMos, Symbolics, and TI Explorer Lisp machines. The NIL
version runs on Vaxes using the VMS system. The public
domain Franz Lisp version, runs on Unix machines, including
Suns and Vaxes using Unix.
Contact: ESTSC - Energy Science & Technology Software Center
P. O. Box 1020 Oak Ridge TN 37831-1020
Phone: (615) 576-2606
Comments: Help with DOE-Macsyma, general and help with issues such as
obtaining support, new versions, etc: lph@paradigm.com
Leon Harten from Paradigm Assoc. Paradigm Associates, Inc.
29 Putnam Avenue, Suite 6 Cambridge, MA 02139 (617) 492-6079.
Maxima::
Type: Licence for a fee. Get licence from ESTC before download.
Machines: Unix workstations (Sun, MIPS, HP, PC's) and PC-DOS (beta).
Contact: wfs@rascal.utexas.edu (Bill Schelter)
Version: 4.155
Comments: General purpose - MIT Macsyma family. Common Lisp
implementation by William F. Schelter, based on Kyoto
Common Lisp. Modified version of DOE-Macsyma available
to ESTSC (DOE) sites. Get the licence from ESTSC (phone:
615-576-2606) and then dowload the software from
DOS: math.utexas.edu:pub/beta-max.zip or
UNIX: rascal.ics.utexas.edu:pub/maxima-4-155.tar.Z
Currently their charge for 1 machine license is $165 to
universities. Site licenses are also available.
Aljabr::
Type: commercial
Machines: Mac's with 4Meg of RAM.
Contact: aljabr@fpr.com, Phone: (508) 263-9692, Fort Pond Research.
15 Fort Pond Road, Acton MA 01720 US
Version: 1.0
Comments: MIT Macsyma family descendant, uses Franz LISP.
Paramacs::
Type: commercial
Machines: VAX-VMS, Sun-3, Sun-4, (SGI and Mac's on the works)
Contact: lph@paradigm.com
Version: ???
Comments: ???
Vaxima::
Type: distribution fee only
Machines: VAX-Unix
Contact: ESTSC (see DOE-Macsyma above)
Version: ???
Comments: General purpose - MIT Macsyma family descendant.
Includes source and binaries with assembler for Macsyma
and Franz Lisp Opus 38
Reduce::
Type: commercial
Machines: All Unix workstations, a variety of mainframes,
MS-DOS/386/4Mbyte and Atari ST.
Contact: reduce-netlib@rand.org
Version: 3.34
Comments: General purpose
FORM::
Type: Public domain verison 1 , Version 2 commercial
Machines: Msdos, AtariSt , Mac, Sun3, Sun4/sparc, Apollo, NeXT,
VAX/VMS, VAX/Ultrix , DECStation , and others
Contact: t68@nikhef.nl (Jos Vermaseren)
Binary versions of version 1 are available
by anonymous ftp from nikhef.nikhef.nl (192.16.199.1)
Version: 1 and 2.
Comments: General purpose , designed for BIG problems , batch-like
interface
Axiom::
Type: commercial
Machines: IBM RS 6000's and other IBM plataforms
Contact: ryan@nag.com, Phone: (708) 971-2337 FAX: (708) 971-2706
NAG - Numerical Algorithms Group, Inc
1400 Opus Place, Suite 200, Downers Grove, Il 60515-5702
Version: ???
Comments: General purpose.
SIMATH::
Type: anonymous ftp
Machines: Suns, Apollo DN and Siemens workstations.
Contact: simath@math.uni-sb.de
Version: 3.5
Comments: General purpose
Derive::
Type: commercial
Machines: Runs on PC's and HP 95's.
Contact: 808-734-5801
Soft Warehouse Inc. 3615 Harding Ave, Suite 505
Honolulu, Hawaii 96816-3735
Version: 2.01
Comments: Said to be very robust, gets problems that other larger
programs fail on. Low cost.
Theorist::
Type: commercial
Machines: Mac's
Contact: prescien@well.sf.ca.us, phone:(415)543-2252 fax:(415)882-0530
Prescience Corp, 939 Howard St #333, San Francisco, CA 94103
Version: 1.11
Comments: General purpose , Graphics , If you like the mac interface
you'll love this , fixed precision ( 19 digits ), runs on
smaller mac's than MMA.
MAS::
Type: Anonymous FTP
Machines: Atari ST (TDI and SPC Modula-2 compilers), IBM PC/AT
(M2SDS and Topspeed Modula-2 compilers) and Commodore
Amiga (M2AMIGA compiler).
Contact: H. Kredel. Computer Algebra Group
University of Passau, Germany
Version: 0.60
Comments: MAS is an experimental computer algebra system combining
imperative programming facilities with algebraic
specification capabilities for design and study of algebraic
algorithms. MAS is available via anonymous ftp from:
alice.fmi.uni-passau.de = 123.231.10.1
MockMma::
Type: anonymous FTP from peoplesparc.berkeley.edu
Machines: Anywhere running Common LISP.
Contact: fateman@cs.berkeley.edu
Version: ???????
Comments: It does Matematica (or I mispelled that!).
Weyl::
Type: anonymous FTP from ftp.cs.cornell.edu /pub/Weyl
Contact: rz@cs.cornell.edu
Version: 4.240
Comments: Intended to be incorporated in larger, more specialized
systems.
FLAC::
Type: ???
Machines: IBM PC's (DOS)
Contact: Victor L. Kistlerov, Institute for Control Sciences,
Profsoyuznaya 65, Moscow, USSR
Version: ???
Comments: Functional language
GROUP THEORY
============
Cayley::
Type: Cost recovery
Machines: SUN 3, SUN 4, IBM AIX and VM machines, Apollo, DEC
VAX/VMS, Mac running A/UX 2.01 or higher and Convex.
Contact: cayley@maths.su.oz.au
Phone: (61) (02) 692 3338, Fax: (61) (02) 692 4534
Computational Algebra Group
University of Sydney
NSW 2006 Australia
Version: 3.8.3
Comments: Designed for fast computation with algebraic and
combinatorial structures such as groups, rings,
fields, modules and graphs. Although it began as a
group theory system it has recently evolved into a
general (abstract) algebra system.
GAP::
Type: anonymous ftp (free, but not PD; basically GNU copyleft)
Machines: All Unix workstations, ATARI ST, IBM PC and MAC
Contact: gap@samson.math.rwth-aachen.de
FTP site: samson.math.rwth-aachen.de (137.226.152.6) & math.ucla.edu
Version: 3.1 (3.2 to be released Dec 92)
Comments: group theory calculations.
ALGEBRA & NUMBER THEORY
=======================
PARI::
Type: anonymous ftp
Machines: Most workstations, Mac and NeXT
Contact: pari@mizar.greco-prog.fr
anonymous ftp to math.ucla.edu (128.97.64.16)
in the directory /pub/pari
Version: 1.35
Comments: Number theoretical computations, source available, key
routines are in assembler, ascii and Xwindows graphics.
PC-DOS version available from anonymous FTP at
wuarchive.wustl.edu:/edu/math/msdos/modern.algebra/pari386
Macaulay::
Type: anonymous ftp
Machines: Complete source available, Binary Mac versions available
Contact: anonymous ftp to zariski.harvard.edu (128.103.1.107)
Version: ???
Comments: focused on Algebra type computations ( polynomial rings
over finite fields ), things like that.
Kant::
Type: ???
Machines: ???
Contact: KANT Group
Prof. Dr. M. E. Pohst / Dr. Johannes Graf v. Schmettow
Mathematisches Institut, Heinrich-Heine-Universit\"at
Universit\"atsstr. 1, D-4000 D\"usseldorf 1
pohst@dd0rud81.bitnet or schmetto@dd0rud81.bitnet
Version: 1 & 2
Comments: Kant (Computational Algebraic Number Theory) is
subroutine package for algorithms from geometry of
numbers and algebraic number theory. There are two
versions of Kant: Kant V1 is written in Ansi-Fortran 77,
while Kant V2 is built on the Cayley Platform and written in
Ansi-C.
LiE::
Type: commercial
Machines: Unix workstations (SUN, DEC, SGI, IBM), NeXT, PC's,
Atari and Mac's.
Contact: lie@can.nl, Phone: +31 20 592-6050, FAX: +31 20 592-4199
CAN Expertise Centre, Kruislaan 413,
1098 SJ Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Version: 2
Comments: Lie group computations
UBASIC::
Type: anonymous FTP (ubas830.zip)
Machines: Mac and IBM PC's
Contact: malm@argo.acs.oakland.edu, Phone: (313) 370-3425
Donald E. G. Malm, Department of Mathematical Sciences
Oakland University, Rochester, MI 48309-4401
Version: 8.30
Comments: BASIC-like environment for number theory. In the collection
of programs written for it one can find:
MALM (Collection of UBASIC Number Theory Programs (malm.zip)
by Donald E. G. Malm (and copyrighted by him), including:
Baillie-Wagstaff Lucas pseudoprime test, Algorithm for
Chinese remaindering, Elliptic curve method to factorize n,
Fermat's method of factoring, General periodic continued
fraction to quadratic routine, Evaluates Carmichael's
function & D. H. Lehmer's method of solving x^2 = q (mod p).
UBMPQS (Prime factorization program for numbers over 80
digits (ubmpqs32.zip)), that can be found in the WURST
Archives (wuarchive.wustl.edu).
Numbers::
Type: Free but not Public Domain, registration required.
Machines: PC-DOS
Contact: Ivo Dntsch Phone: (++49) 541-969 2346
Rechenzentrum Fax: (++49) 541-969 2470
Universitt Osnabrck Bitnet: duentsch@dosuni1
Postfach 4469
W 4500 Osnabrck GERMANY
Version: 202c
Comments: Numbers is a calculator for number theory. It performs
various routines in elementary number theory, some of
which are also usable in algebra or combinatorics.
Available in the anonymous FTP in ftp.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.de
in the directory /pub/msdos/math
CoCoA::
Type: ???
Machines: Mac's
Contact: cocoa@igecuniv.bitnet
Version: ???
Comments: Computations in commutative algebra
Galois::
Type: Commercial
Machines: IBM-PC DOS
Contact: CIFEG Inc., Kalkgruberweg 26, A-4040 Linz, Austria
Version: ???
Comments: Algebra and number theory microcomputer written by
R. Lidl, R. W. Matthews, and R. Wells from the U. Tasmania
in Turbo Pascal v3.0.
GANITH::
Type: Anonymous FTP
Machines: Any system with vanilla Common Lisp, X 11, and has at least
a rudimentary Lisp/C interface.
Contact: Chanderjit Bajaj & Andrew Royappa
Department of Computer Science, Purdue University
West Lafayette, IN 47907
(bajaj and royappa@cs.purdue.edu)
Version:
Comments: GANITH is an algebraic geometry toolkit, for computing
and visualising solutions to systems of algebraic equations.
It is written in Common Lisp and C, and runs under version
11 of the X window system.
GANITH is available from the anonymous FTP at
cs.purdue.edu in the file /pub/avr/ganith-src.tar.Z
TENSOR ANALYSIS
===============
SchoonShip::
Type: ???
Machines: ???
Contact: mentioned in Comp.Phys. Comm. 8, 1 (1974).
Version: ???
Comments: I have heard this program mentioned , supposely it's designed
for large problems (i.e. thousands of terms in series
expansions ). Developed at CERN for CDC7600 ?
STENSOR::
Type: ????
Machines: VAX, SUN, Apollos, Orion, Atari & Amiga
Contact: lh@vand.physto.se,
Lars Hornfeldt, Physics Department, University of Stockholm
Vanadisv.9, S-113 46, Stockholm, Sweden
Version: ????
Comments: System for tensor calculus and noncommutative algebra
LISP CALCULATORS
================
JACAL::
Type: Gnu CopyLeft
Machines: Needs a Lisp (either Common or Scheme)
Contact: Available by anon ftp to altdorf.ai.mit.edu [18.43.0.246]
Version: ???
Comments: An IBM PC version on floppy for $50 is available from
Aubrey Jaffer, 84 Pleasant St. Wakefield MA 01880, USA.
GNU-calc::
Type: GNU copyleft
Machines: Where Emacs runs.
Contact: Free Software Foundation
Version: ???
Comments: It runs inside GNU Emacs and is written entirely in Emacs
Lisp. It does the usual things: arbitrary precision integer,
real, and complex arithmetic (all written in Lisp),
scientific functions, symbolic algebra and calculus,
matrices, graphics, etc. and can display expressions with
square root signs and integrals by drawing them on the
screen with ascii characters. It comes with well written
600 page online manual. You can FTP it from any GNU site.
DIFFERENTIAL EQUATIONS
======================
DELiA::
Type: Informal distribution
Machines: IBM PC's (DOS)
Contact: A. V. Bocharov, Program Systems Institute,
USSR Academy of Science, Pereslavl,
P.O. Box 11, 152140 USSR, Tlx: 412531 BOAT
Version: ????
Comments: Differetial equation computations
PC SHAREWARE
============
SymbMath::
Type: shareware, student and advanced versions.
Machines: IBM PC
Contact: chen@deakin.OZ.AU
Version: 2.1.1
Comments: Runs on plain (640k) DOS machines. The shareware version
is available in the file sm211a.zip on the Wurst Archives.
More capable versions are available by mail-order from the
author.
CLA::
Type: anonymous FTP
Machines: PC-DOS
Contact: ????
Version: 2.0
Comments: A linear or matrix algebra package which computes
rank, determinant, rwo-reduced echelon form, Jordan
canonical form, characteristic equation, eigenvalues,
etc. of a matrix. File cla20.zip on the Wurst Archives.
XPL::
Type: anonymous FTP
Machines: PC-DOS
Contact: David Meredith, Department of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
San Francisco, CA 94132
meredith@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
Version: 4.0
Comments: Formerly called CCALC. Well-integrated graphics and some
(numerical) matrix manipulation routines. Intended for
calculus students. Prentice Hall sells this with a book
(ISBN 0-13-117441-X--or by calling 201-767-5937), but it
is also available (without the manual but with a
comprehensive help system) by anonymous FTP from
wuarchive.wustl.edu: /edu/math/msdos/calculus/cc4-9206.zip.
AMP::
Type: Commercial, evaluation copy available by anonymous FTP
Machines: PC-DOS
Contact: Mark Garber (71571,2006@compuserve.com) Ph: (404) 452-1129
Cerebral Software, PO Box 80332, Chamblee, GA 30366
Version: 3.0
Comments: The Algebraic Manipulation Program (AMP) is written in
Modula-2 and is a symbolic calculation tool. AMP functions
in an interpreter mode and program mode. It has tensor
manipulation using index notation. The evaluation copy is
available in the anonymous FTP at:
ftp.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.de:pub/msdos/math/amp30.zip
Mercury::
Type: Shareware
Machines: PC-DOS
Contact: ???
Version: 2.06
Comments: Limited in symbolic capabilities, but is extremely adept
at numerically solving equations and produces publication
quality graphical output. This used to be Borland's Eureka!,
but when Borland abandoned it, its original author started
selling it as shareware under the name Mercury. Available
from anonymous FTP at
wuarchive.wustl.edu:/edu/math/msdos/calculus/mrcry206.zip
PFSA::
Type: Public Domain
Machines: PC-DOS
Contact: ???
Version: 5.46
Comments: Available from the anonymous FTP at
wuarchive.wustl.edu:/edu/math/msdos/modern.algebra/vol546.zip
LIE::
Type: Public Domain
Machines: PC-DOS
Contact: HEAD@RIVETT.MST.CSIRO.AU (A. K. Head)
CSIRO Division of Materials Science and Technology
Melbourne Australia or
Locked Bag 33, Clayton, Vic 3168, Australia
Phone: (03) 542 2861 Telex: AA 32945 Fax: (03) 544 1128
Version: 3.3
Comments: LIE is a program written in the MuMath language (not a
package) for Lie analysis of differential equations.
Available from anonymous FTP at
wuarchive.wustl.edu: /edu/math/msdos/adv.diff.equations/lie33
Calculus::
Type: Shareware
Machines: PC-DOS with EGA
Contact: Byoung Keum, Dept. of Mathematics
University of IL. Urbana, IL 61801.
Version: 9.0
Comments: Program for Calculus and Differential Equations. It has
symbolic diff. & integration (simple functions), graphs.
Very unstable program - no reason to use it, except for
price (suggested registration fee is $ 30.00).
Available from anonymous FTP at
wuarchive.wustl.edu: /edu/math/msdos/calculus/calc.arc
--
\ / | Marc Conrad, Universitaet des Saarlandes
\ Luxemburg | marc@math.uni-sb.de
France \| Germany | these opinions are not necessarily these
\x <---- you are here! | of the SIMATH-group (and maybe even not mine).
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <8966@blue.cis.pitt.edu> dtate+@pitt.edu (David M. Tate) writes:
>Substituting irony for brains, (Bruce Klopfenstein) said:
>
>>dtate+@pitt.edu (David M. Tate) writes:
>
>>> Of *course* they left RBIs off; we're comparing Alomar the individual with
>>> Baerga the individual, so only individual stats count.
>
>>I forgot. Most runs are scored by players stealing home, so RBI don't
>>count for anything.
>
>Uh, right. You also forgot that you can't get an RBI (barring a HR) with
>nobody on base. What fraction of all runs come on solo HR?
>
>Most runs are scored because there happened to be players on base when the
>batter did something good. I use the phrase "happened to be" advisedly.
>Lots of people have tried to figure out who the players are who have the
>most ability to "turn it up a notch" in clutch/RBI/whatever situations, and
>what they've found is that there is no evidence that *anyone* has such an
>ability to any measurable extent. There are no clutch hitters. People who
>tend to do things that *would* cause an RBI if there were somebody on base
>end up getting RBIs proportional to how many of their teammates obliged by
>being in position.
>
>>My mistake.
>
>I agree.
>
Me, too... RBI are a worthless stat. Of course, so is stolen bases because
sometimes runners are in front of a player that would otherwise run. And of
course pitchers pitch differently with different people on different bases,
so batting average, slugging and obp out, too. Hmmm... i guess homers would
not count then, either.
My point? RBI might not be a perfect stat but nothing is. And no stat (or lack
of) can tell me there are no clutch hitters. Maybe no stat CAN tell me,
either, but some people are... I just know it!!! 8)
Ed O.
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MLB Standings and Scores for Tuesday, April 6th, 1993
(including yesterday's games)
NATIONAL WEST Won Lost Pct. GB Last 10 Streak Home Road
Atlanta Braves 01 00 1.000 -- 1-0 Won 1 00-00 01-00
Cincinnati Reds 01 00 1.000 -- 1-0 Won 1 01-00 00-00
San Diego Padres 00 00 .000 0.5 0-0 --- 00-00 00-00
San Francisco Giants 00 00 .000 0.5 0-0 --- 00-00 00-00
Colorado Rockies 00 01 .000 1.0 0-1 Lost 1 00-00 00-01
Houston Astros 00 01 .000 1.0 0-1 Lost 1 00-01 00-00
Los Angeles Dodgers 00 01 .000 1.0 0-1 Lost 1 00-00 00-01
NATIONAL EAST
Florida Marlins 01 00 1.000 -- 1-0 Won 1 01-00 00-00
New York Mets 01 00 1.000 -- 1-0 Won 1 01-00 00-00
Philadelphia Phillies 01 00 1.000 -- 1-0 Won 1 00-00 01-00
Pittsburgh Pirates 00 00 .000 0.5 0-0 --- 00-00 00-00
St. Louis Cardinals 00 00 .000 0.5 0-0 --- 00-00 00-00
Chicago Cubs 00 01 .000 1.0 0-1 Lost 1 00-01 00-00
Montreal Expos 00 01 .000 1.0 0-1 Lost 1 00-00 00-01
AMERICAN WEST Won Lost Pct. GB Last 10 Streak Home Road
Oakland Athletics 01 00 1.000 -- 1-0 Won 1 01-00 00-00
Texas Rangers 01 00 1.000 -- 1-0 Won 1 00-00 01-00
California Angels 00 00 .000 0.5 0-0 --- 00-00 00-00
Chicago White Sox 00 00 .000 0.5 0-0 --- 00-00 00-00
Minnesota Twins 00 00 .000 0.5 0-0 --- 00-00 00-00
Seattle Mariners 00 00 .000 0.5 0-0 --- 00-00 00-00
Kansas City Royals 00 01 .000 1.0 0-1 Lost 1 00-01 00-00
AMERICAN EAST
Boston Red Sox 01 00 1.000 -- 1-0 Won 1 00-00 01-00
New York Yankees 01 00 1.000 -- 1-0 Won 1 00-00 01-00
Milwaukee Brewers 00 00 .000 0.5 0-0 --- 00-00 00-00
Toronto Blue Jays 00 00 .000 0.5 0-0 --- 00-00 00-00
Baltimore Orioles 00 01 .000 1.0 0-1 Lost 1 00-01 00-00
Cleveland Indians 00 01 .000 1.0 0-1 Lost 1 00-01 00-00
Detroit Tigers 00 01 .000 1.0 0-1 Lost 1 00-00 00-01
YESTERDAY'S SCORES
NATIONAL LEAGUE AMERICAN LEAGUE
Montreal 1 New York 9
Cincinnati 2 Cleveland 1
Atlanta 1 Texas 7
Chicago 0 Baltimore 4
Los Angeles 3 Boston 3
Florida 6 Kansas City 1
Philadelphia 3 Detroit 4
Houston 1 Oakland 9
Colorado 0 California IDLE
New York 3 Chicago IDLE
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St. Louis IDLE Minnesota IDLE
San Diego IDLE Seattle IDLE
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I've sent Gordon R. my posts on protein, vitamin C and vitamin A prior to
posting on internet as a professional courtesy. Somehow I've managed to
delete my vitamin A post from my text file. Gordon R. had promised to send
it back to me but he's pretty mad at me right now so I'll just retype it.
Since digging through all my references is very time consuming(took me all
day for that PMS post), I'm not going to cite any references(Gordon R. has
them). I'm going to include some of the material from Weinsier and
Morgan's new Nutrition textbook(which was not in my original material) to
point out that what I'm going to say has some support in the medical
community.
Diet has been know to affect the immune system of man for a very, very long
time. Protein has always had the biggest role in infection and I've
already covered the role of protein in protecting you against infection.
Now I'm going to hit what I consider to be the most important nutrient in
the U.S. as far as infection is concerned(vitamin A).
When vitamin A was originally discovered, it was commonly referred to as
the anti-infection vitamin. Many people(Linus Pauling being one) have
decided to take this title away from vitamin A and give it to vitamin C
(which I've already covered). Big mistake(in my opinion). Vitamin A is
also getting a reputation as an anti-cancer vitamin(with good reason).
The NCI currently has numerous clinical trials in progress to see if
vitamin A can not only prevent cancer but cure it as well. It's role in
both cancer and infection is almost identical(but not quite).
Vitamin A comes in two completely different forms(retinol and
beta-carotene). Retinol is the animal form and it's toxic, beta-carotene
is the plant form and it's completely nontoxic. Both retinol and beta-
carotene display good absorption in the human gut if bile is present
(60-80%). The liver stores all of your retinol and doles it out for other
tissues to use by synthesizing retinol binding protein(RBP). A normal human
adult liver should have 500,000IU to 1,000,000IU of retinol stored. We
are born with 10,000IU in our liver. U.S. autopsy has shown that about
30% of Americans die with the same(or less) amount of vitamin A as they
were born with. If you don't believe that nutritional reserves(like that
of retinol in the liver) are important, then this low vitamin A reserve is
not going to affect you. But if you believe(like I do) that the nutrient
reserves are important, then there is a problem with vitamin A in the U.S.
The U.S. RDA for vitamin A in an adult male is 1,000 RE or 5,000IU of
vitamin A. For adult feamles its 800 RE or 4,000IU of vitamin A. Diet
surveys show that most Americans are getting this amount of vitamin A
(either retinol or Beta-carotene) from their diet. But the NRC(National
Research Council) was going to release a new RDA table in 1985 that had the
RDA for both vitamin A and vitamin C raised(C to 90mg per day and A to
7,500IU per day for adult males). That report and it's recommendations was
killed. Why? Concern over the increasing supplementation was the main
reason. RDAs are set to prevent clinical disease, not to keep nutrient
reserves full. Many scientist in the U.S. feel that the time has come to
move away from the prevention of clinical pathology concept and move
towards the promotion of optimum health concept, especially since we have
some very good data now that show that nutrient reserves are extremely
important during periods of stress. The nutritonal concervatives won that
battle and a new group of scientist were collected to come out with the
1989 RDA list which lowered the RDA for several nutrients and moved the
dietary guidelines back to where they were when we first started in the
1940's(get enough to prevent clinical pathology, but not enough to fill
the reserves).
We know from autopsy that only about 10% of Americans have a liver with a
normal vitamin A reserve(500,000IU to 1,000,000IU). I preach nutrient
reserves to my students and tell them to measure them in their patients.
But for vitamin A, only a liver biopsy(or autopsy data) will tell you how
much somebody has stored. We can tell very easily if someone has
overfilled his or her liver with vitamin A by measuring the serium retinol
level(levels above 450ug/dl are highly suggestive that you have filled your
liver with vitamin A and it's time to stop taking retinol). The normal
range of serum retinol will be 20-100ug/dl. Hypervitaminosis A is
diagnosed with a serum retinol level of 2,000ug/dl or higher(Interpretation
of Diagnostic Test, Wallach, M.D., a Little Brown Series book). This level
of vitamin A in blood means that medical attention is necessary due to
vitamin A toxicity. Weinsier and Morgan take a much more conservative
approach to vitamin A toxicity than does Wallach, as you will see later in
this post. Between 450ug/dl and 2,000ug/dl you should have plenty
of warning that it's time to eliminate the retinol from your diet(headache,
redness of the skin, hair loss, joint pain).
I tell all my students that will use vitamin A in their practice that they
had better monitor the serum retinol level and stop when there are clear
signs that the liver is full. You will never really know if the patient
needs the vitamin A(because you can not measure the pool in liver) but you
will always know when it's time to stop(just like in those vitamin A for
PMS studies).
Beta-carotene can be taken to fill up your liver with retinol and you will
never have to worry about toxicity because the conversion of beta-carotene to
retinol that occurs in both your gut and your liver will slow down(stops in the
liver and slows down in the gut) when your liver is full of retinol. But
taking Beta-carotene as the source of retinol takes a very long time to
fill the liver up(I've seen estimates of 20-30 years) if you are in the 30%
that only has as much as you were born with in your liver(10,000IU). One
other problem with beta-carotene, if you have a zinc deficit, you will not
convert as much beta-carotene to retinol in the gut or the liver because the
enxzyme that does this conversion requires zinc. In addition, the release of
retinol from the liver is a zinc dependent process so a zinc deficit will
cause a vitamin A deficit even if your liver has plenty of vitamin A.
Now what does vitamin A do in cancer and infection protection? The body
uses vitamin A(retinol) for many different things. Vision(the first to be
nailed down and where you see overt clinical pathology) uses the aldehyde
(retinal) and alcohol(retinol) form of vitamin A. Reproduction uses the
retinol form and some retinal. Infection and cancer protection uses
retinoic acid. How do you convert retinol(which your white blood cells
and the mucosal cells get from blood) to retinoic acid? You use enzymes,
one of which requires vitamin C(this is why Pauling has tried to pull the
title of anti-infection vitamin away from vitamin A). Vitamin C does play
a role in infection(interferon production for example) but it's biggest role
is the conversion of retinol to retinoic acid. If you increase your intake
of vitamin C, you will increase your formation of retinoic acid. But
retinoic acid can not be converted back to retinol(as retinal can) and once
it's formed, it's used and then lost to the body. This is why the 1985 NRC
group wanted to increase both vitamin C and vitamin A RDA's.
Most people taking large amounts of vitamin C really think that they are
helping themselves. If they don't have much vitamin A in their liver and
they are not also increasing their intake of vitamin A, they actually do
themselves more harm than good.
Retinoic acid functions in white blood cells to promote antibody formation.
In the mucus membrane, it is the main factor in promoting good mucus
production and a good epithelial cell barrier to prevent infectious agents from
entering the blood system. The mucus membrane is referred to as the "first
line" defense against infection. For cancer, retinoic acid has been shown
to act as a cell brake(it counteracts the effect of cell promoters which
stimulate cells to divide). Cancer has two distinct steps, DNA alteration
and cell promotion. For cells that normally divide all the time, promoters
are not that important. But for lung and breast tissue which does not
normally divide, promoters are real important in the malignant process.
This is the major reason why the NCI has so many different clinical trials
in progress using retinol and/or beta-carotene.
Chronic infection(irritation) of the mucus membranes is a signal that
vitamin A may not be adequate. I tell my students that any patient who
walks into their office with a complaint of chronic infection has to be
worked up for vitamin A(along with the other factors that medicine already
has on it's list of causes for chronic infection). I drive this home in my
course at the Osteopathic College in Tulsa, when I teach at the allopathic
medical school in Tulsa(OU's branch campus) and when I give CME lectures.
Dark adaptation is the best clinical test for vitamin A status since night
vision is impacted when liver reverves drop to 50,000IU of retinol. The
serum level of retinol can also be used, but it does not drop until liver
reserves drop below 10,000 to 20,000IU. Asking a patient if they have
trouble seeing at night is a good initial screen(if cataracts are ruled
out). In one study done on U.S. Spanish-Americans where serum retinol levels
were measured, 25% of the sample population had a serum retinol level below
20ug/dl.
As more studies are done on serum retinol levels in population groups of
the U.S. that have had a history of high infection rates, we will probably
see a much stonger correlation between infection incidence rates and low
serum retinol levels.
What do Weinsier and Morgan have to say about vitamin A? Here are excerpts
from their book:
Vitamin A functions in vision in the forrm of retinol, it is necessay for
growth and differentation of epithelial tissue, and is required for
reproduction, embryonic development, and bone growth. Protein-calorie
malnutrition and zinc deficiency may impair the absorption, transport, and
metabolism of vitamin A. Retinaldehyde is converted to retinoic acid,
which has biological activity in growth and in cell diferentiation but not
in reproduction or vision. The most common procedure to evaluate vitamin A
status is to measure the retinol level in plasma or serum. The normal
range for vitamin A content for a child is 20 to 90ug/dl. Lower values are
indicators of deficiency or depleted body stores. Serum levels greater
than 100ug/dl are indicative of toxic levels of vitamin A. Dark adaptation
tests and electroretinogram measurements are also useful but difficult to
perform on young children. Rapidly proliferating tissues are sensitive to
vitamin A deficiency and may revert to an undifferentiated state. The
bronchorespiratory tract, skin, genitourinary system, gastrointestinal
tract and sweat glands are adversely affected. A daily intake of more than
7.5mg(about 37,000IU) of retinol is not advised and chronic use of amounts
over 20mg(100,000IU) can result in a dry and itching skin, desquamation,
erythematous dermatitis, hair loss, joint pain, chapped lips, hyperostois
(bony depositis), headaches, anorexia, edema and fatigue.
They recommend 30mg of retinol via IM injection in children for vitamin A
deficiency but do not discuss treatment for adults. Their toxic serum retinol
level is very conservative. I recommend that my students try 25,000IU in
adults that are having problems with chronic infection. They have to rule
out a zinc deficit first by getting an RBC zinc run(or if their clinical
lab can't run it, I tell them to do what Weinsier and Morgan suggest, give
them the zinc along with the vitamin A. At 25,000IU per day, toxicity
should not be a problem and you will not have to worry about pulling the
patient into the office on a regular basis to run a serum retinol.
Both Elaine and Jon found doctors who used a much higher dose of vitamin A.
Recall that the PMS papers were using 100,000IU to 200,000IU of vitamin A.
I don't suggest that my students use these high doses. If you wanted to
fill the liver up fast(as part of a clinical trial) and were monitoring the
serum retinol level, then you would be okay. But my knowledge of the
vitamin A literature suggests to me that 25,000IU for patients with a
demonstrated vitamin A deficit(dark adapatation test or serum retinol) will
provide a good and steady improvement(as long as zinc and vitamin C status
are good) without having to worry about toxicity. If they want to get more
agressive, fine if they follow my advise to check the serum retinol. But
vitamin A(retinol) should never be given in high dose to women who could
become pregnant since vitamin A shows teratogenicity towards the human
fetus. The dose needed to show this effect on the developing fetus is
18,000IU of retinol per day. Beta-carotene will never have this effect on
the human fetus.
Could just taking Beta-carotene instead of retinol supplements help? Yes
but the effect will take a long time to develop. My advise is to use
retinol to fill the liver up and then switch to beta-carotene to keep it
full. Vitamin A is probably one nutrient that is better off left to
prescription by doctors. But when we have the M.D.'s in this newsgroup
jumping all over me and other doctors that propose the use of vitamin A
supplements for treating patients with chronic sinus and GI distress, I
think that the most prudent option is to keep vitamin A in the OTC market
but require manufactors to provide package inserts to educate the general
public about the dangers of vitamin A supplementation.
Marty B.
| 13sci.med |
Hi, there were a couple of articles posted to this group the other
day with the above subject heading. Unfortunately, they expired
before I could read them. I could really use an xterm-like thing
on my Amiga 4000; could somwone give me any information.
Thanks,
Larry R. Nittler
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1qk0k4$itg@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> cubrj@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Brian Johnson) writes:
>Well now that the hawks have won the division the road is a little
>easier for the playoffs. Let toronto and detroit beat the hell out of
>each other while Chicago sweeps st.louis. That just makes it easier in
>the second round with all the rest they will get and tor/det getting
>none. For the conf. champ they will have a hard time versus the division
>but that div. will be pretty battered also so the advantage goes to the
>Hawks again. Then bring pitt. and sure the Hawks will probably lose but
>its better to get that far and lose than to not go.
>
>brian
>
Hopefully, a miracle (o.k. not quite a miracle, but close!) will occur and
Pittsburgh will be elminated prior to the finals. If they make it again,
they will probably keep the Cup. If they don't, it's the Hawks' turn!
GO BLACKHAWKS!!
CONGRATS TO JEREMY ROENICK FOR BEING ONLY THE 2ND HAWKS PLAYER TO POST
BACK TO BACK 50 GOAL SEASONS!!
Scott
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
DB>LaserWriter IINTX upgrade kit is.
DB>Its a small box, which has a bag inn it , seemingly
DB>containing 6 chips (look like ROMS) and a IINTX manual.
DB>The installation instructions are most informative and say, in full,
DB>"This product must be installed by an Apple ........."
DB>SO what does this do ? At first I thought it might be a NT to NTX
DB>upgrade, but I thought that required an entirely new board.
Sounds like you got the Adobe ROM upgrade for an NTX. That describes
the kit I got when I upgraded to the 51.2 or 52.1 PostScript in my NTX.
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Thanks!
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| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
I understand Robert Centor has a program called ROC ANALYZER, that can be
used to do receiver operating characteristic (ROC) curve analysis. Does
anyone know if this is avaliable from an FTP site? If not, does anyone
know how to get a copy of it?
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doyle+@pitt.edu
| 13sci.med |
Does anyone know the difference between MOOLIT and OLIT? Does Sun
support MOOLIT? Is MOOLIT available on Sparcstations?
I have recntly downloaded a copy of wkshTree written by Eric Wallengren
of Univel. There are many widgets that are apparently available only
to MOOLIT but not OLIT.
Is there a wkshTree program available under OLIT?
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In article <1993Apr27.185721.15511@cs.ucf.edu> clarke@acme.ucf.edu (Thomas Clarke) writes:
>Now, if they wanted to paint the CocaCola symbol on the
>moon in lampblack, that would give me pause...
Wouldn't bother me. I'd laugh. It wouldn't work -- the surface of the
Moon is *already* pretty dark, and the contrast would be so poor you
couldn't possibly see it. The only reason the Moon looks bright is that
it's in bright sunlight against an otherwise-dark sky. Evidently Heinlein
didn't know that...
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| 14sci.space |
cbh@windsurf.scd.ucar.edu (Cris Hannu) writes:
>In article <1993Apr21.191744.3072@ole.cdac.com>, ssave@ole.cdac.com (The Devil Reincarnate) writes:
>>
>> I am curious about knowing which commericial cars today
>> have v engines.
>>
>> V4 - I don't know of any.
>> V6 - Legend, MR3? MR6?
>> V8 - Don't know of any.
> Yeah, right....
>The BMW 8xx are V10's or V12's, can't remember which... the auto show was
>a while ago.
The 850 is a V12 (5L, from the 750iL) Is there a 835? or 840?
>> V12 - Jaguar XJS
>>
>>
>> Please add to the list.
>> Thanks,
>> -S
>> ssave@ole.cdac.com
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In article <22APR93.23368145.0079@VM1.MCGILL.CA> B8HA <B8HA@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> writes:
>In article <1993Apr22.093527.15720@donau.et.tudelft.nl> avi@duteinh.et.tudelft.nl (Avi Cohen Stuart) writes:
>>From article <93111.225707PP3903A@auvm.american.edu>, by Paul H. Pimentel <PP3903A@auvm.american.edu>:
>>There is one big difference between Israel and the Arabs, Christians in this
>>respect.
>>
>>Israel allows freedom of religion.
>Avi,
> For your information, Islam permits freedom of religion - there is
>no compulsion in religion. Does Judaism permit freedom of religion
>(i.e. are non-Jews recognized in Judaism). Just wondering.
In Islam, there is no compulsion, just a tax on dhimini. In
Judaism, non-Jews are allowed to do as they wish, and there is no
effort made to convert them.
Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu
"If we had a budget big enough for drugs and sexual favors, we sure
wouldn't waste them on members of Congress..." -John Perry Barlow
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1r4bkvINN5nm@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, dvb@ick (David Van Beveren) writes:
>
> When you think of the NHL, who comes to mind? Gilmour? Gretzky? Mario?
> .. ah... did I mention Mario? If you said Gretzky, you haven't really
> been following along, have you. If you said Gilmour, you are a true
> Maynard.
>
> I don't even think the selection of the HArt deserves serious discussion on
> this group. It is a no-brainer.
While I agree that Lemieux deserves the Hart, it is far from a "no-brainer".
The Hart trophy goes to the player most valuable to his team, not to the best
player in the league. So your above arguement is really worthless.
The Pens without Mario are still a damn good hockey team. The Leafs without
Gilmour would have been fighting Tampa Bay for the 3rd pick.
Like I said, Mario deserves it, IMHO. But it is a very close race and a
Gilmour victory would not surprise me. I dislike Doug Gilmour with a passion,
but I must concede that he is extremely valuable to the Leafs.
Alan
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In <catcherC6317q.8LB@netcom.com> catcher@netcom.com (Paul W. Francisco) writes:
>I wouldn't say that the letter clearly implies representation of the
>views of a group that you belong to. It represents a subset (that you
>don't belong to) of a larger group (which you do, if only because this
>isn't a moderated group).
And you can bet that I wouldn't be the only one not belonging to the
moderated group if it was moderated by an anally-retentive little
dullard like yourself.
>Look, there are several ways to state an opposing viewpoint. Three
>that come to mind are as follows:
I hardly need you to presume to lecture me on how to communicate my points
of view. This "posting" that you have made is the second on the subject of
the NHL letter and you have yet to communicate your opinion on the matter.
Instead you content yourself with flaming me.
>3) Say it directly and obnoxiously. Result:
Result:
Moronic little busy bodies like yourself take advantage of a perceived
opportunity to post rules for others to live by.
>You realize that anything you say can, and most certainly will, be
>used against you.
Well if using it "against" me means you are going to post something of
significance then by all means go ahead. I insist. Otherwise why don't
you just go back to sleep or do whatever it is that you do when you are
all by yourself...
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"So many morons...
rm ...and so little time."
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <YfqmleK00iV185Co5L@andrew.cmu.edu>, Lawrence Curcio <lc2b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...
>I've seen people in their forties and fifties become disoriented and
>demented during hospital stays. In the examples I've seen, drugs were
>definitely involved.
>
>My own father turned into a vegetable for a short time while in the
>hospital. He was fifty-three at the time, and he was on 21 separate
>drugs...
No wonder he became confused! With so many drugs, it is almost impossible
to know which one is causing the problem. And because some drugs
potentiate the effect of each other, they can make the side effects
all the worse, and even dangerous. (kinda like mixing alcohol and
antihistamines!)
>...he was disoriened [the doctors thougt ] they should put him on something
>else as well!
Unfortunately, doctors prescribe drugs to treat the side effects of
the drugs a patient is receiving. If one drug they are taking causes
the patient's blood pressure to go up, many times an antihypertensive
is prescribed instead of re-evaluating the need for the original drug.
This is why many older adults are trying to take a dozen or so drugs
at home!!!!
>....procure a list of the drugs your grandmother is getting, and discuss
>it with an independent doc. Her problems may not be the effect of HALDOL
>at all. HALDOL may have been used validly, or it may have been
>prescribed because OTHER medication confused her, and because the
>hospital normally prescribes HALDOL for the confused elderly.
I fully agree. In addition, she proably should be examined by another
doctor who can re-evaluate the need for the medications she is taking.
I can't remember the guidelines I either saw in a text or heard during
a lecture, but any elderly adult who is receiving medications should have
the need for the drug re-evaluated regularly. If her current physician
is unwilling to do this, find one who will. Either check the phone
book for a physician who specializes in geriatric medicine or gerontology,
or contact a physician referral line or the American Medical Society.
By finding a geriatric specialist, he (she) will more likely be in tune
with the special needs of elderly adults and maybe can help.
| 13sci.med |
In article <C5qLr8.DJL@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> slg@slgsun.att.com (The Idealistic Cynic) writes:
>Can someone out there tell me how to switch Window's screen resolution
>quickly and easily? I know that I can go back into install to do it,
>---
>Sean L. Gilley
>
Take a look at ftp.cica.indiana.edu at pub/pc/win3/(util?misc?)
for a program caleld vswitch.zip.It's as close to want you want as you can
get in WIn3.1 ...
Hope it helps...
--
Costas Malamas ____________________________________________________________
Georgia Institute of Technology
OIT UA -- Opinions expressed are not necessarily OIT's...
Internet: ccastco@prism.gatech.edu
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <C4vr7z.EB0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>,
kssimon@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kenneth steven simon) wrote:
>
> hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian V. Hughes) writes:
>
> >To my knowledge there is no way to fully discharge a Duo battery.
>
> The program PowerStrip2.0, which is freeware, has an option called
> "Quick Discharge." You can find it on the Mac archives, probably
> sumex-aim.stanford.edu or mac.archive.umich.edu.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Kenneth Simon Department of Sociology
> KSSIMON@INDIANA.EDU Indiana University
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
Is it a hidden option? I'm using PowerStrip 2.0 (by Mr. Caputo) right now
and can't find any quick discharge option. It definitely is on
mac.archive.umich.edu 'cause I submitted it!
______________________________________________________________________
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Net & Comm Segment Mgr/ 400 Encinal Street, PO Box 1900 FAX: 425-3544
DevProgram Marketing Mgr Santa Cruz, CA 95061-1900
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| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <00969FBA.E640FF10@AESOP.RUTGERS.EDU> mcdonald@AESOP.RUTGERS.EDU writes:
>[...]
>There are a variety of water-proof housings I could use but the real meat
>of the problem is the electronics...hence this posting. What kind of
>transmission would be reliable underwater, in murky or even night-time
>conditions? I'm not sure if sound is feasible given the distortion under-
>water...obviously direction would have to be accurate but range could be
>relatively short (I imagine 2 or 3 hundred yards would be more than enough)
>
>Jim McDonald
Refer to patents by JAMES HARRIS ROGERS:
958,829; 1,220,005; 1,322,622; 1,349,103; 1,315,862; 1,349,104;
1,303,729; 1,303,730; 1,316,188
He details methods of underground and underwater wireless communications.
For a review, refer to _Electrical_Experimenter_, March 1919 and June 1919.
Rogers' methods were used extensively during the World War, and was
unclassified after the war. Supposedly, the government rethought this
soon after, and Rogers was convieniently forgotten.
The bottom line is that all antennas that are grounded send HALF of
their signal THRU the ground. The half that travels thru space is
quickly dissapated (by the square of the distance), but that which
travels thru the ground does not disapate at all. Furthermore,
the published data showed that when noise drowned out regular
reception, the underground antennas would recieve virtually noise-free.
IF you find this hard to believe, then refer to the work of the
man who INVENTED wireless: Tesla. Tesla confirmed that Rogers' methods
were correct, while Hertzian wave theory was completely "abberant".
----
ET "Tesla was 100 years ahead of his time. Perhaps now his time comes."
----
| 12sci.electronics |
In <1993Apr29.192623.11760@cc.ic.ac.uk> atae@spva.ph.ic.ac.uk (Ata Etemadi) writes:
>"The Forever War", one of my favorite SciFi books, had a passage devoted to
>breathing fluids. The idea was to protect people from the high accelerations
>required for interstellar travel by emersing the passengers in dry-cleaning
>fluid saturated with oxygen. Plenty of very imaginative ideas is this book.
>I would certainly recommend it (won the Hugo and the Nebula awards).
And most definitely read it in conjunction with Heinlein's _Starship
Trooper_. The two books are radically different viewpoints of the
same basic premises. I've even heard tell of English classes built
around this.
--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
| 14sci.space |
In article <1r49aj$98c@hpchase.rose.hp.com> k@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Steve Kao) writes:
>I've long since lost any newspaper or magazine article that mentions how
>the BATF said they tossed a grenade instead of knocked on the door to
>serve the search warrant on the BD compound. Does anyone have any
>references? I'm just looking for periodicals/newspapers and dates. A
>copy of the article is not needed, but I wouldn't mind seeing it.
>Posting here or e-mail is fine.
The Associated Press had an article on Monday March 1, I believe,
which quoted witnesses as describing BATF agents throwing grenades prior
to any gunfire on the part of the Davidians.
It was among the first of a crop of different, mutually exclusive
descriptions.
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David Veal Univ. of Tenn. Div. of Cont. Education Info. Services Group
PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu - "I still remember the way you laughed, the day
your pushed me down the elevator shaft; I'm beginning to think you don't
love me anymore." - "Weird Al"
| 16talk.politics.guns |
I just bought an actix graphics engine 32 plus with 2 megs.
I am not impressed...
I have been having all sorts of problems with the board. Various lock-ups
in windows, problems with the screen not centering, no flexibilty in choosing
synch rates for a monitor, buggy windows drivers, lack of 1024x768x64k driver,
If anyone else has one of these cards, please e-mail me...
Looks like i'm going to try the ati ultra plus...
--
****************************************************************************
brad@bach.udel.edu Brad Cain N3NAF
cain@snow-white.ee.udel.edu University of Delaware Electrical Engineering
cain@freezer.cns.udel.edu "Blah, blah, blah" alt.blah
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
From article <1pq6i2$a1f@news.ysu.edu>, by ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker):
>
> Cup holders (driving is an importantant enough undertaking)
> Ashtrays (smokers seem to think it's just fine to use the road)
Oh, sure -- sorry, but the absence of a cupholder is not gonna
discourage anyone from eating/drinking in the car; let's just put one
in anyway, so at least they don't have the further distraction of trying
not to spill it.
Furthermore, you are obviously not a smoker; on a cold day, it
takes a certain skill to toss a butt out of a cracked window without having
it wind-deflect into the back seat. Also, just 'cause some smokers use
the window, doesn't mean all of us do.
This reminds me of *one* pleasant feature in the otherwise
ergonomically-hellish interior of the Alfa Romeo Milano: you could ash
your cigarette without even removing your hand from the wheel; the 'tray
was *right*there*.
> Fake convertible roofs and vinyl roofs.
> Any gold trim.
These, I will agree, are abominations, right along with the fake
continental spare-tire kit -- it's sad watching those little old ladies
try to load their groceries into the trunk with that huge tire-medallion
in the way.
Most pitiful fake convertible top: on a "Cadillac" Cimarron, with
all the chrome door trim still visible -- not fooling *anyone*.
Of course, there was that Hyundai Excel I once saw...
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___ A laszlo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
| | {*} Redhead Afficionado Extraordinaire *and*
| | __V__ Little Canadia's Minister of Fine Tobaccos
|_|o_|%%%|0_ Cigaret brands sampled: 55 import/luxury, 17 handrolling
| |
| | These opinions are not necessarily mine (or mine, either).
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| 7rec.autos |
Could someone explain the difference between Tom Gaskins' two books:
o PEXLIB Programming Manual
o PHIGS Programming Manual
Why would I want to buy one book vs the other book? I have an 80386
running SCO UNIX (X11R4) on my desktop, a SUN IV/360 in my lab, and
access to a variety of other systems (Alliant FX/2800, Cray Y/MP) on
the network. Mostly, we would like to do 3D modeling/visualization
of rat, rabbit, monkey, and human brain structure.
Thanks, AJ
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Alexander-James Annala
Principal Investigator
Neuroscience Image Analysis Network
HEDCO Neuroscience Building, Fifth Floor
University of Southern California
University Park
Los Angeles, CA 90089-2520
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| 1comp.graphics |
In article <93111.145432ICGLN@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ICGLN@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
A good source of information on Burzynski's method is in *The Cancer Industry*
by pulitzer-prize nominee Ralph Moss.
Interesting. What book got Moss the pulitzer nomination? None of the
flyers for his books mention this, and none of the Cancer Chronicle
Newsletters that I have mention this either.
Also, a non-profit organization called "People Against Cancer,"
which was formed for the purpose of allowing cancer patients to
access information regarding cancer therapies not endorsed by the
cancer industry, but which have shown highly promising results (all
of which are non-toxic).
Moss is People Against Cancer's Director of Communications. People
Against Cancer seems to offer pretty questionable information, not
exactly the place a cancer patient should be advised to turn to. Most
(maybe all) of the infomation in their latest catalogue concern
treatments that have been shown to be ineffective against cancer, and
many of the treatments are quite dangerous as well.
sdb
---
sdb@ssr.com
| 13sci.med |
If some society came up with a good reason for why rape and murder are ok I
would be consistent with my position and hold that it was still wrong. My
basis of morality is not on societal norms, or on current legalities. My basis
is, surprise surprise, on both the Bible and on inherent moral abhorrences, for
lack of a better way to put it, to certain things. Yes, that's vague, and the
only way I know off the top of my head to defend it is to say that all humans
are similarly made. Yes, that falls into the trap of creation, and why follow
the Bible. My arguments are that it is better to exhibit trust, goodness,
love, respect, courage, and honesty in any society rather than deceipt, hatred,
disrespect, "cowardness", and dishonesty. No, I haven't been everywhere and
seen everyone, but, according to my thesis, I don't have to, since I hold that
we were all created similarly. If that makes an unfalsifiable thesis, just say
so, and I'll both work out what I can and punt to fellow theists.
MAC
--
****************************************************************
Michael A. Cobb
"...and I won't raise taxes on the middle University of Illinois
class to pay for my programs." Champaign-Urbana
-Bill Clinton 3rd Debate cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
With new taxes and spending cuts we'll still have 310 billion dollar deficits.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Its time for a little house cleaning after my PC upgrade. I have the following
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vga congroller
kb
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need to get $300 for system
AT style kb - $20
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| 6misc.forsale |
Fact: Both Janet Reno and Bill Clinton have admitted responsibility,
even grief, over the deaths in Waco.
Fact: Regardless of who started the fire, there are more than enough
things on tape to make a civil rights case against these two.
Cruel and unusual punishment (dying tortured rabbits on tape?)
come to mind.
Fact: It is a federal felony to infringe civil rights under color of
law; where death is involved, this offense carries a penalty
of life in prison.
Fact: Impeachment is allowable for "high crimes and misdemeanors."
Anything that's a federal felony should qualify.
Conclusion: We have NO CHOICE, if we are an honest people, but to
impeach Mr. Clinton, and remove Reno from office.
Glenn R. Stone (glenns@eas.gatech.edu)
wearer of asbestos underoos
| 16talk.politics.guns |
norris@athena.mit.edu writes:
> This is certainly a valid objection to religion-as-explanation-of-
> nature.
> Fortunately for the convenience of us believers, there is a class of
> questions that can never be reduced away by natural science. For
> example: why does the universe exist at all?
Must there be a "why" to this? I ask because of what you also
assume about God-- namely, that He just exists, with no "why"
to His existence. So the question is reversed, "Why can't
we assume the universe just exists as you assume God to
"just exist"? Why must there be a "why" to the universe?"
> After all, the time-space
> world didn't have to exist. Why does *anything* exist? And: is it
> possible for persons (e.g. man) to come into being out of a purely
> impersonal cosmos? These questions which look at the real mysteries of
> life -- the creation of the world and of persons -- provide a permanent
> indicator that the meaning of life in the material world can only be
> found *outside* that world, in its Source.
It may be that one day man not only can create life but can also
create man. Now, I don't see this happening in my lifetime,
nor do I assert it is probable. But the possibility is there,
given scientists are working hard at "decoding" out "genetic
code" to perhaps help cure disease of a genetic variation.
Again, though, must there be "why" or a "divine prupose" to
man's existence?
> When you say that man is *only* an animal, I have to think that you are
> presenting an unprovable statement -- a dogma, if you will. And one
> the requires a kind of "faith" too. By taking such a hard line in
> your atheism, you may have stumbled into a religion of your own.
As far as we can tell, man falls into the "mammal" catagory. Now,
if there were something more to the man (say, a soul), then
we have yet to find evidence of such. But as it is now, man
is a mammal (babies are born live, mother gives milk, we're
warm-blooded, etc.) as other mammals are and is similar in
genetic construction to some of them (in particular, primates).
For more on this check out talk.origins.
> But before you write off all Christianity as phony and shallow, I hope
> you'll do a little research into its history and varieties, perhaps by
> reading Paul Johnson's "A History of Christianity". From your remarks,
> it seems that you have been exposed to certain types of Christian
> religion and not others. Even an atheist should have enough faith in
> Man to know that a movement of 2000 years has to have some depth, and
> be animated by some enduring values.
Well, then, Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism, Hinduism, Judaism,
Zoerasterism, Shintoism, and Islam should fit this bit of logic
quite nicely... :-) All have depth, all have enduring values,
thus all must be true...
Stephen
_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ * Atheist
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ * Libertarian
_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ * Pro-individuality
_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ * Pro-responsibility
_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Jr. * and all that jazz...
--
| 15soc.religion.christian |
Hello Netters
I recenlty aquired enough money to purchase a laser printer.
The other day, I bought the COMPUTER SHOPPER mag. I was looking through
printer review section and noticed the WINPRINTER800. The machine is
incredibly low priced for all the features it has
800 dpi!
8Meg RAM
Postscript compatable
envelope printing
My question is does anyone have one of these or know why the price is so
cheap? I would appricaiate it if someone would pass on their knowledge
on this subject. Thanks alot!
Dave
------------------------------
Donuts are a girls best friend
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| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1r8tgh$lfi@hsdndev.harvard.edu>, nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark
Shneyder 432-4219) says:
>The Fat Lady is about to hit the first note...Okay,how about 3-0 deficits?
>The B's chances for a comeback are now less 1%(That's based on 7-game
>playoff format)...
Actually, that's based on the NHL's history of 7 games. The statstical
odds of winning one straight game -- 50/50. Two straight games -- 25%. Three
straight games -- 12.5%, 4 straight games = 6.25%. The odds of the Penguins
winning 14 straight games in the playoffs was 0.0061%. Of course, this doesn't
include weighted average, but the Pens beating the Devils 3 straight (a weaker
team) along with beating the Rangers 3 straight (a much stronger team) has made
the act balanced out. That's about right. For Boston the odds of winning are
probably closer to 10% (with weighted average) since Buffalo's record isn't as
good and Boston has a stronger team. Enough about my QBA probabilities though!
It's just goes to prove ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE, if you integrate that to Debbie
Gibson :-)
>> Who do you think gets the start in game three? I hope it is going
>>to be Blue. If the team can rally around him, maybe Moog can too.
Moog gets about ***'s out of 5 for his performance from me. I give Blue 4
starts. Fuhr has been too tough. Buffalo caught a hot goaltender just in
time...I mean, after all, Buffalo is 3 wins, 7 losses in their last 10.
>Harry Sinden's appearance outside of B's dressing room after Game 3
>was a pathetic site. He said something really retarded to cover Sutter's
>behind,"This game is not about winning or losing..". Harry,check the
It's very frustrating to lose, and you've gotta say something. Actually
it's not about winning or losing, it is how you play the game. But when the
competition is magnified to this level, 99.9% of the people only care about
who wins or loses :-)
>schedule! Your team is in the playoffs and about to go on a long summer
>vacation on Sunday morning!
I think Buffalo will win in 6 -- it's not like Boston is getting blown away.
They lost 2 OT games -- with a different bounce, they could easily be up 2-1.
>Harry and his buttkisser Milbury will never admit that they screwed up
>in a major way when they brought in one of the dumbest people in the
>business,Brian Sutter. Sutter's playoff record as the head coach in St.Louis
>speaks for itself. The Blues really have a chance to advance to the
>second round this year...
Good point here. Chicago's in deep trouble tonight. The 'Hawks have a bad
past history of winning the division and losing early. When they don't finish
1st, they do okay.
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** Robbie Po ** 1993's STREAKERS "We do what comes naturally!
Patrick Division Semi's -- PGH PENGUINS -- You see now, wait for the
PENGUINS 4, Devils 3 1991, 1992 STANLEY possibility, don't you see a
Penguins lead, 3-0 CUP CHAMPIONS :-) strong resemblance..."-DG '89
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1quvdoINN3e7@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> tdawson@engin.umich.edu (Chris Herringshaw) writes:
>From: tdawson@engin.umich.edu (Chris Herringshaw)
>Subject: Newsgroup Split
>Date: 19 Apr 1993 19:43:52 GMT
>Concerning the proposed newsgroup split, I personally am not in favor of
>doing this. I learn an awful lot about all aspects of graphics by reading
>this group, from code to hardware to algorithms. I just think making 5
>different groups out of this is a wate, and will only result in a few posts
>a week per group. I kind of like the convenience of having one big forum
>for discussing all aspects of graphics. Anyone else feel this way?
>Just curious.
>
>
>Daemon
>
Actuallay I don't, but on the other hand I don't support the idea of having
one newsgroup for every aspect of graphics programming as proposed by Brian,
in his reply to my original posting.
I would suggest a looser structure more like a comp.graphics.programmer,
comp.graphics.hw_and_sw
The reason for making as few groups as possible is for the same reason you
say we shouldn't spilt up, not to get to few postings every day.
I takes to much time to browse through all postings just to find two or
three I'm interested in.
I understand and agree when you say you want all aspects of graphics in one
meeting. I agree to some extension. I see news as a forum to exchange ideas,
help others or to be helped. I think this is difficult to achive if there
are so many different things in one meeting.
Good evening netters|-)
Arff
"Also for the not religous confessor, there is a mystery of higher values,
who's birth mankind - to the last - builds upon. They are indisputible. And
often disregarded. Seldom you hear them beeing prized, as seldom as you hear
a seeing man prizeing what he sees." Per Lagerkvist, The Fist
(Free translation from Swedish)
--Andreas Arff andreasa@dhhalden.no--
| 1comp.graphics |
Hello,
I am interested to hear from people working in the field of visual
simulation, ie driving simulation, flight simulation etc.
Would be very pleased to see, what is going on in the field of research
and industrial development.
For those of you interested as well: There is a workshop (preferedly
held in German), situated in Wuppertal, November 18/19 1993, specially
related to the above topic.
The title:
"Sichtsysteme - Visualisierung in der Simulationstechnik"
Complete details are available. Please contact me.
R. Moeller
rmoe@welfag.elektro.uni-wuppertal.de
| 1comp.graphics |
I have a '81 DATSUN 210 HATCHBAK forsale:
It's a Blue Datsun
Two doors (three, since it's a hatchback)
69,900 miles
Automatic
Very good condition (I hate to sell it, but Phila insurance is
outrageous; I also don't need a car right now)
I am asking $800 or BO
call Ron at 215-222-6933 or email: perrault@a.chem.upenn.edu
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <0010580B.vmcbrt@diablo.UUCP> diablo.UUCP!cboesel (Charles Boesel) writes:
Yeah, Corel Draw and WordPerfect Presentations pretty limited here, too.
Since there's no (not really) such thing as a decent raster to
vector conversion program, this "tracing" technique is about it. Simple
stuff, like b&w logos, etc. do pretty well, while more complicated stuff
goes haywire. I suspect (even though I don't write code) that a good
bitmapped to vector conversion program would probably be as big as most
of these application softwares we're using -- but even so, how come one
hasn't been written? (to my knowledge). I mean, even Hijaak, one of the
commercial industry standards of file conversion, hasn't attempted it yet.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Mac McDougald * Any opinions expressed herein
The Photography Center * are not necessarily (actually,
Univ. of Tenn. Knoxville 37996 * are almost CERTAINLY NOT) those
mac@utkvx.utk.edu * of The University of Tennessee.
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| 1comp.graphics |
BOOKS FOR SALE
================
Tally up any and all of the books you want and send me a message.
Shipping will be by US Mail Parcel Post/Book Rate. Payment in advance
or COD accepted.
All books are in good to excellent condition. Paperbacks, unless noted.
Quantity Discounts.
This list is updated continually. The latest list can be requested by
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List of: February 27, 1993
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Computers
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Using Wordperfect 5 (QUE, Stewart)............................... $10.00
Using Clipper (QUE, Tiley)....................................... $10.00
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57 Practical Programs & Games in Basic [Tracton]................. $ 1.00
First Book of Wordperfect 5.1 [Barnes]........................... $ 8.00
Corvettes
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1984-1986 Y Car Parts and Illustration Catalog [GM Manual]....... $ 7.50
Secrets of Corvette Detailing [Antonick]......................... $ 7.50
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Washington Manual or Medical Therapeutics, 26th. Ed.............. $10.00
Respiratory Physiology-The Essentials [West], 3rd. Ed............ $ 9.00
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How to Get Into Medical & Dental School, 3rd. Ed................. $ 2.00
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Introduction to General Pathology [Spector], 2nd Ed. ............ $ 8.00
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College Accounting, 9th Ed., 1972 [Carson] -hardcover-........... $ 2.00
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1050 Wall Street, Suite 10C // Telephone: 313/663-5557
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48105 // Internet: david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us
| 6misc.forsale |
Has anyone successfully converted Interleaf graphics to CGM, or even heard
of it being done????
We'd love to hear about it.
-Mike McConnell
emm@cray.com
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <wfozwMi00Uh_E1kyE=@andrew.cmu.edu> rp16+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Angelo Pleshar) writes:
>In other TV news, the Penguins announced yesterday that they will have 3
>fewer broadcast TV games, and will have 22(!) games on some sort of
>subscription / pay-per-view system. Yuck.
This is incorrect. This year the Pens had 61 games on "free" TV and 6
games on PPV. Next year they will have 62 games on free TV and 22 on
a subscription basis.
You actually get 1 more free game than last year, and there will be no
more "radio-only" games.
Its a good deal. Last year, everybody bitched about Baldwin "breaking
up the team". Now, he goes out of his way to keep the nucleus of this
team together and that takes money. He comes up with a creative way
to generate more revenue so he can afford this team, and people bitch
some more.
Everybody wants something for nothing.
Dean
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(using jrmst8 by permission Don't need no stinkin'
of the owner, Joe McDonald) badges!"
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1993May1.044441.1@aurora.alaska.edu> nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu writes:
>Okay, the earth has a magnetic field ...
>...if you put a object in the earth magnetic field, it produces electricty..
Well, it's not that simple -- you're in Earth's magnetic field, and you
don't generate electricity -- but it can be done.
>Now the question. Can you use electricity to power a space/low earth orbit
>vehicle? and i fyou can, can you use the magnetic field of the earth to power
>it??
The way you power things is with electricity, so the answer to the first
question is definitely yes. (If you meant to say "propel" rather than
"power", the answer is "sort of".) Yes, you can use interaction with the
Earth's magnetic field to get electrical power, and there are potential
applications for this.
However, bear in mind that there is no free lunch. The energy isn't
coming from nowhere. What such systems do is convert some of the energy
of your orbital velocity into electrical energy. There are cases where
this is a useful tradeoff. Using power obtained in this way for propulsion
is useful only in special situations, however.
What you *can* do is get your power by some other means, e.g. solar arrays,
and run the interaction with the magnetic field in reverse, pumping energy
*into* the orbit rather than taking energy out of it.
If you want more information, trying looking up "electrodynamic propulsion",
"tether applications", and "magsails".
>Can the idea of a "dragless" satellite be used in part to create the
>electrical field?
No. A "dragless" satellite does not magically have no drag; it burns fuel
constantly to fight drag, maintaining the exact orbit it would have *if*
there was no drag. This is why there are quotes around "dragless".
--
SVR4 resembles a high-speed collision | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
between SVR3 and SunOS. - Dick Dunn | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
| 14sci.space |
In article <May.11.02.38.41.1993.28297@athos.rutgers.edu> mserv@mozart.cc.iup.edu (Mail Server) writes:
>But I am interested in your claim that early Christian practices "parallel"
>Mormon temple ceremonies. Could you give an example? Also, why do they only
>parallel Mormon ceremonies? Why don't Mormon ceremonies restore the original
>Christian practices? Wasn't that the whole point of Joseph Smith's stated
>mission?
If you want parallels the best source is probably the book _Temple
and Cosmos_ by Hugh Nibley. It is not light reading however.
As to why these early practices "only parallel" and do not exactly
duplicate the modern LDS ceremony, there are a couple of reasons:
1. Quite likely we do not have the exact original from ancient
times. This stuff was not commonly known but bits and pieces
undoubtedly spread. (Much as bits and pieces of the modern ceremony
get known.) What we have in the 40 day literature, the Egyptian
ceremonies, and certain Native American ceremonies is almost
certainly not exactly what Jesus taught.
2. Certain aspects of the ceremony are normally modified to fit the
situation, much as the modern ceremony has been modified to fit the
audio-visual tools now available.
| 15soc.religion.christian |
Afraid I can't give any more info on this.. and hoping someone in greter
NETLAND has some details.
A short story in the newspaper a few days ago made some sort of mention
about how the Japanese, using what sounded like a gravity assist, had just
managed to crash (or crash-land) a package on the moon.
the article was very vague and unclear. and, to make matters worse, I
didn't clip it.
does this jog anyone's memory?
thanks
dannyb@panix.com
| 14sci.space |
Our Lord and Savior David Keresh has risen!
He has been seen alive!
Spread the word!
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"My sole intention was learning to fly."
| 0alt.atheism |
If you're willing to do a little work, you can make DrawnButtons do what you
want, more-or-less. One of my colleagues here at GE CRD has done just that
in our internal LYMB system.
We have a matrix transform class that makes it easy to compute a series of
dial positions from a single set of vectors. Each set of vectors is then
drawn into a pixmap. Clicking the button advances the knob's state and
changes to the next pixmap in the sequence.
Using DrawnButtons obviously still constrains you to taking up a rectangular
portion of the parent widget, but that's normally not a big shortcoming. You
can make things look circular enough.
--
Skip (montanaro@crd.ge.com)
"Why can't X be this easy?" -- me, after learning about dlopen()
| 5comp.windows.x |
mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer) said:
>In article <7862@blue.cis.pitt.edu> genetic+@pitt.edu (David M. Tate) writes:
>
>Well, perhaps if the Braves had no one else worth playing this year it
>would be Lopez in there. But they do have others worth playing, at
>least in *their* opinion.
Catcher is their weakest position, with the possible exception of second base.
They have a chance to simultaneously replace their biggest offensive problem
spot with a well-above-average offensive player *and* acclimate a highly
promising potential star with no pressure on him to carry the team, and they
want to play *Olson* and *Berryhill* instead?!
>>I disagree, in that I don't think it *is* a _tangible_ skill, any more than
>>leadership is. I don't deny that it is a *real* skill, and that some catchers
>>may be much better than others at it, but I really don't see any way that we
>>could ever know who they are. Nichols's Law of Catcher Defense is eerily
>>accurate far too often for me to take defensive assessments of catchers very
>>seriously.
>
>Sorry. New. Don't know Nichols' Law.
"A catcher's defensive reputation will be inversely proportional to his
recent offensive level of performance." Thus, Mickey Tettleton goes (in
the media) from being a no-hit defensive whiz to a slugging thumb-finger
in two short years. The rule doesn't apply to perceived "superstars", who
get the Gold Glove Offensive Transfer effect instead. Greg Olson is probably
considered to be a good defensive catcher precisely because he can't hit.
>Don't believe in catchers'
>era. But I am interested in pitchers' eras with different catchers.
Aren't they the same thing?
>In other words, we know more than they do, so the only logic behind
>a different decision than we would make must be financial.
Either that or just stupidity.
>I presume
>we feel this way about other franchises than Atlanta, no?
Of course.
>>Is it fair to the young players? No. Does it make organizational sense?
>>I think it does.
>
>Well if it does make organizational sense, one can hardly fault them
>for their decisions. I mean, please don't tell me how to run my
>business. Especially when I'm being successful.
One could make the same sort of argument in other cases. Pete Rose, in
pursuing Ty Cobb's record, was a huge gate attraction (and national media
magnet). The Reds made a lot of money off that; they also wasted the prime
of Eric Davis. That may be "good business", but that doesn't mean I don't
loathe them for it.
--
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posing as: | and opens; only something in me understands
e e (can | the pocket of your glove is deeper than Pete Rose's)
dy) cummings | nobody, not even Tim Raines, has such soft hands
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
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| 6misc.forsale |
My original post was:
>I am building an oracle v6 database to serve as a repository for
>information which is considered proprietary or confidential. As such
>I want to verify the security of oracle passwords and apply some of
>the same security checking techniques we use on our *nix systems.
>Specifically I would like to use Crack, or something like it to check
>the encrypted data for easily guessed passwords.
>
>The use of 'Crack' would depend on oracle using the unix password
>encryption scheme, does anyone know if this is the case, or what
>method is used?
>
>Any other methods for security checking / audit in the oracle
>environment would be much appreciated.
This article will just scratch the surface of a few security
considerations, comments are requested. (email: fw@world.std.com)
My thanks to the people who responded, both on usenet and from
Oracle Corp.
The most common response was to suggest use of oracle audit
features or OPS$ passwords to control access (opinion on OPS$
included suggestions to use and not use). I was also advised to
use table views to refine the granularity of access control.
One important security consideration in networked installations
is that OPS$ accounts presume that the client host provides user
authentication. Os/2 server OPS$ users are only as secure as the
_least_ secure machine on the network. Hence you should probably
not define any OPS$ accounts on systems with PC's, or limit access
of OPS$ accounts to data with no security concerns. Unix oracle
servers provide for disabling OPS$ access over the network (orasrv
option), while relying on host security for local processes.
Internally Oracle provides powerful and well documented (sic)
audit mechanisms which the DBA will use to monitor system and
data access. These tools can be used to track the primary security
risks from within the Oracle environment.
Oracle password security is based on a proprietary usage of DES
encryption. Oracle Corp. states that the algorithm is not prone
to cleartext attack. This is a difficult claim to substantiate
since the algorithm is unknown. The concern here is that if users
choose easily guessed passwords. _If_ a cracker can gain access
to your oracle database files through the host operating system,
s/he could extract the 'cyphertext' password data and apply
cryptanalysis techniques to learn the users passwords.
As security risks go, the above scenario is pretty low severity.
Certainly once an intruder has access to the raw database files,
s/he can access to the data in them. If a cracker _could_ break
the passwords, however, s/he could do substantial damage without
alerting the auditing mechanism's, and leaving and audit trail
which would point to valid users. At present Oracle (like Unix)
provides no native means of ensuring that passwords are not
guessable.
As with all computer security, the most important defense is to
educate users in the safe choice of passwords. These techniques
are well discussed in internet rfc#1281 and the Crack manual,
(both available from ftp archive servers) and, UNIX(R) System
Security (Curry, David A. - Addison-Welsey 1992)
Forrest Whitcher fw@world.std.com
Boston Scientific Corp. Watertown MA
| 11sci.crypt |
Re: More on Gun Buybacks
The Denver buy back, trading guns for Denver Nuggets tickets was pretty much
a bust. Very few guns were turned in. The news tried to hype it but
when the best they could do was ".... including a loaded .38..." well,
you get the picture.
A side note- the news also reported that the guns would be checked for
whether or not they were stolen. STOLEN GUNS WILL BE RETURNED TO THEIR
OWNERS!!!!! (They say)
(Does this have anything to do with the rally on the Capital steps yesterday
in support of the RKBA????)
Even the rally made the 5 pm news on 3 channels :-)
Ron Miller
| 16talk.politics.guns |
I'm planning on writing several classes to build a raytracing/radiosity library
on top of, and i'm wondering if anythink like this is freely available on the
net before i go to it. What i need is classes like rays, vectors, colors,
shaders, surfaces, media, primitives, worlds (containing primitives) and
views/images.
Please post or mail.
--
Torgeir Veimo
Studying at the University of Bergen
"...I'm gona wave my freak flag high!" (Jimi Hendrix)
"...and it would be okay on any other day!" (The Police)
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <1r46ofINNdku@gap.caltech.edu> palmer@cco.caltech.edu (David M. Palmer) writes:
>>orbiting billboard...
>
>I would just like to point out that it is much easier to place an
>object at orbital altitude than it is to place it with orbital
>velocity. For a target 300 km above the surface of Earth,
>you need a delta-v of 2.5 km/s. Assuming that rockets with specific
>impulses of 300 seconds are easy to produce, a rocket with a dry
>weight of 50 kg would require only about 65 kg of fuel+oxidizer...
Unfortunately, if you launch this from the US (or are a US citizen),
you will need a launch permit from the Office of Commercial Space
Transportation, and I think it may be difficult to get a permit for
an antisatellite weapon... :-)
The threshold at which OCST licensing kicks in is roughly 100km.
(The rules are actually phrased in more complex ways, but that is
the result.)
--
All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
- Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
| 14sci.space |
I'm doing sound for a couple of bands around here and we need Direct
Input boxes for the keyboards. These are the little boxes that take a
line level out of the keyboard and transform it into low-Z for the run
to the mixer. Sadly they cost like $50 (or more) each and I'm going
to need like 5 or 10 of them! I looked inside one (belonging to
another band) and it looks like just a transformer. Does anyone have
any plans for building them? Perhaps in Anderton's "Electronic
Projects for Musicians" book (which I am having a hell of a time
tracking down...)?
Thanks a lot!
.s.
PS: Post or email. I read this group...
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- lancer@wpi.wpi.edu - - 0{{ MoDiMiDoFrSaSo: -
- Mein Kopf ist ein Labyrinth, mein Leben ist ein Minenfeld -
| 12sci.electronics |
I'm having trouble receiving News at the moment due to an overloaded
News server. I think that I can post out reasonably quickly, though.
I'm in a couple of threads at the moment which may be pending replies.
If anyone wants a reply from me over something I've posted then I
suggest sending an e-mail copy of the point to me so that I can reply by
News.
This is one way to shut me up!!
Cheers,
David.
---
On religion:
"Oh, where is the sea?", the fishes cried,
As they swam its clearness through.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993Apr21.230622.6138@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas) writes:
>> That is what the survivors claim. I'd like to see some evidence
>> that people that everyone agrees were not going to commit suecide
>> actually did it.
>
>I'm not sure I understand that last sentance...can you re-state it?
The FBI claims, on the basis of their intelligence reports,
that BD's had no plans to commit suecide. They, btw, had bugged the
place and were listening to BD's conversations till the very end.
Koresh's attorney claims that, based on some 30 hours he spent
talking to his client and others in the compound, he saw no
indication that BD's were contemplating suecide.
The survivors claim it was not a suecide.
BD's were not contemplating suecide, and there is no reason
to believe they committed one.
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Disclaimer: Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.
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| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993Apr23.111105.7703@ifi.uio.no>, joakimr@ifi.uio.no (Joakim Ruud) writes:
> In article <C5u5nv.JGs@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM>, mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
> > In <C5sqyA.F7v@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> tbrent@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Timothy J Brent) writes:
> > |Probably not. But then, I don't pack heavy weaponry with intent to use it.
> > Please cite your evidence that he was intending to use it.
> Well, he would be pretty stupid not to, I mean what's the use of spending
> thousands of $$ on something you won't use? (sorry if I'm stepping on the toes
> of any members of some "rifle-association" here...). Rifles bought for
> hunting, I can understand, rifles bought for killing people, or for "just
> keeping" I cannot.
> Just for the record, I am myself a collector of medieval armour & weaponry,
> and I don't just have it hanging around, I use it... (obviously, only in
> fencing practice with friends...)
Well, let me see if I can explain it. It's similar to collecting coins,
or stamps, or campaign buttons, or coke bottles, or juke boxes, or model
trains, or just about anything else that is collected (and just about
everything is collected). In all cases, you might consider it something
of an aberration; I mean, what purpose does it serve? Not much really;
it's just a hobby. The collector yearns for diversity (not much use in
having TWO of the same thing, except for trading/selling it), historical
significance (this was the thingy used by so-and-so), technical significance
(this is the only one that does such-and-such like this; this is the first
one to do it this way), rarity, and so on.
Some people use their collections, other people do not. As you state, you
use your collection. In one sense, this diminishes the value of your
collection as the items suffer wear and exposure. In another sense, it
can enhance your own enjoyment of your collection. Some people collect
firearms that they do not use; other people use some or all of the firearms
they collect. It's just personal preference.
Oops, 'personal preference' ... I guess we're not supposed to have that any
more, are we?
J.Baker.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993Apr2.201514.20021@isc-br.isc-br.com>, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes:
|>
|> In fact, no one has such a list. The Clinton package as presently proposed
|> includes a variety of recommended spending areas and dollar amounts. It
|> does not include a line-by-line list of every project that would be funded.
|> (Congress may include such line items in the bill when it passes.
|> Likewise, it may prohibit spending for specific projects as amendments to
|> the bill. Such amendments, positive and negative, are often pointed to
|> by those who propose a "line item veto" or "enhanced recision" power for
|> the President.)
|>
|> Some of the $16 billion package is in the form of "block grants" to states
|> and localities.
This is why I asked to be 'enlightened'. You are making claims about what
'is' or 'is not' part of this program. But if the "block grants" go to states
and cities, the mayors list is VERY relivent.
|>
|> I'd suggest contacting your local officials, reading a newspaper with
|> good coverage of Congress (Washington Post, NY Times), or if you're
|> serious about paying attention to these issues, get copies of Congressional
|> Quarterly at your library or have your representative put you on the
|> mailing list for the Congressional Record. (It's free.) But be prepared
|> to invest more time in the effort than it takes to watch the evening
|> news or read your local paper.
Okay scarasm does deserve sacrasm, but I already contact my local officals, my
congress rep., senators, Watch evening news, news programs, and C-SPAN.
|>
|> In addition to the cherry picking that went on with the Mayors' wish list,
|> Congressional Republicans selected wish list projects from a variety of
|> Federal agencies, based apparently upon how silly the names of the projects
|> sounded. I'm not even sure if they bothered to correlate a potential
|> expenditure of an agency in Clinton's bill with a potential project from
|> the same agency, but it is clear that the effort was to make Clinton's
|> potential expenditures appear to be linked to projects with absurd
|> names. (Not to be taken seriously any more than equivalent tactics by
|> Democrats would have been in the Reagan/Bush era.)
The fact is that Primetime (TM of ABC) has had numberous reposts on such waste
programs that already exist. Again, if we are truely intrested in eliminating
the DEBT, we must REMOVE the DEFICIT, and do away with ALL PORK !!!
|>
|> I realize that it is tempting to believe that government is in the hands
|> of clowns who are dishonest at best. But such simplistic analysis does
|> little to advance the cause of public education.
There have been several books written on gov. waste, network news programs
from time to time devote segments to this, and there have been bills proposed
that significantly reduces expenditures without touching external programs by
changing the way 'congress does business' (and make it more efficent).
True, blame is easy, but also is spending someone else's money.
Clinton ran on a platform that he would '...not raise taxes on the middle class
to pay for these (his) programs'. He has proposed a program that is not
specific, that counts on tax hikes to pay for.
--
======================================================================
Ken M. Edwards, Bell Northern Research, Research Triangle Park, NC
(919) 481-8476 email: cnc23a@bnr.ca Ham: N4ZBB
All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of
my employer or co-workers, family, friends, congress, or president.
"You'd better call my dad...My mom's pretty busy."
- Chelsea Clinton
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <1993May12.111030@IASTATE.EDU> jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan) writes:
>In article <C6x81M.EJF@news.cis.umn.edu>, prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya
>Prabhakar) writes:
>>
>> Actually, this strife in Yugoslavia goes back a long way. Bosinan Muslims,
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> in collaboration with the Nazis, did to Serbians after the first world
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> war what Serbs are doing to Muslims now. This is not a fresh case of
>
>I dont think you're correct here. There have been no reports of the Bosnians
>Muslims supporting the Nazis in their genocide against the Serbians. The fact is
>that the Croat govt. using their secret police (called the Ustache, I think)
>were the prime agents of the Nazis in Yugoslavia against the Serbs.
>
Actually, just after the FIRST world war, many Muslims were killed by Serbs.
Under Serbian-led regime between the two world wars, many Croats were
also killed (especially during the dictatorship introduced on Jan. 6, 1929).
Some Croats formed a resistance movement "Ustashas" (Insurgents) and
were forced into exile, to fascist Italy, which sheltered them. In exile,
they practiced a terrorist approach to liberating Croatia; while Croats in
Croatia followed the approach of peaceful negotiations under the leadership
of Vladko Macek. After the Axis powers took control in the SECOND world
war, Vladko Macek refused to collaborate, so Ustashas were brought in
to run the newly formed puppet state. This state included both Croatia and
Bosnia-Herzegovina, and its ideology saw Muslims as the best Croats
("flowers of Croatian people"). Some Muslims in Bosnia-Herzegovina
therefore joined Ustashas. However, even more others did not; they
joined Tito's Partisans. The Ustashas membership peaked at
less than 1% of Croat and Muslim population of that area at that time.
After WWII, Muslims were still considered a religious minority descended
from Croats or Serbs who converted to Islam centuries ago. But, in 1968,
it was decided that forcing Muslims to declare their nationality as
either Serbs or Croats is not a good policy. Dobrica Cosic, the current
president of the rump Yugoslavia, was strongly opposed, and sought to
prevent the category "Muslim" (in an ethnic sense) from appearing on the
next census. He was criticized and expelled from the party. So, since
that time, Bosnian Muslims are considered a separate nationality, although
some still deny this and insist that they choose either Serb or Croat
nationality.
Sincerely,
Josip
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>>>My TOP 10 list of dumbest automotive concepts ever
>>>
>>>9. Back-up lights on Corvette - they're on the sides of the car!
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Sure would be interested to know what year(s) this was!
>>I don't seem to recall ANY car with back-up lights on the sides, much
>>less any Corvette. I suppose I could be mis-interpreting what you are
>>trying to say here.....
>Just a quick comment. Backup lights mounted on the side
>would actually be *extremely* useful for people backing out of
>parking stalls...
While I can't think of any Corvettes with side mounted backup lights,
I know that Saab started using them about 15 years ago. My 1975 Saab 99
didn't have them, but a friend's 1978 Saab 99 certainly did. In addition
to the confentional tail-light mounted backup lights, they had another
set integrated into the front turn signal assembly. For those of you who
don't remember, Saabs of that vintage had an enormous multicoloured plastic
growth, about the size of a _National Geographic_ magazine, sticking out
of the front fender, which incorporated amber "parking lights", amber side
marker lights/reflectors, white "cornering lamps" (like American luxury
cars) aimed towards the side of the road when you have your turn indicators
on, and white "backup lights" aimed towards the back of the car when you
have selected reverse gear. The glossy brochure showed how these front
mounted backup lights were useful for illuminating hazards (pot holes, kid's
toys, etc) that would be run over by the front of the car if you had the
wheels turned while backing up.
Mart L. Molle
Computer Systems Research Institute
University of Toronto
Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4
(416)978-4928
| 7rec.autos |
> When the computer is set for 256 colors and certain operations are done,
> particularly vertical scrolling through a window, horizontal white lines
> appear on the monitor (which generally but not always spare open windows).
> These lines accummulate as the operation is continued. If a window is
moved
> over the involved area of the screen and then moved away the line disappear
> from that area of the screen. This problem is not observed if the monitor
is
> configured for 16 colors or a 14 inch Apple monitor with 256 colors is
used.
>
> I suspect a bad video RAM chip but cannot be certain. The problem has been
> apparent since day 1 but has gotten worse.
Andrew,
I had the same problem when I bought some additional VRAM. In my case
the problem arose when I set the color depth to 16 bit on a 14" monitor. The
problem was solved by sending back the SIMMs and getting different ones.
Someone on a local bbs I use said that the problem is with incompatible VRAM
chips and that Apple has some kind of repair/technical note discussing the
issue.
If you've had the problem since day 1, I'd take the chips back to
whomever sold them to you and get good ones.
--Phil Schuler
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <C50KDr.Duz@acsu.buffalo.edu>
psyrobtw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss) writes:
> I will hear what God the LORD will speak:
> for he will speak peace
> unto his people, and to his saints:
> but let them not turn again to folly.
Psalm85(JPS): For the leader. Of the Korahites. A psalm. O LORD, You
will favor Your land, restore Jacob's fortune; You will forgive Your
people's iniquity, pardon all their sins; Selah; You will withdraw all Your
anger, turn away from Your rage. Turn again, O God, our helper, revoke
Your displeasure with us. Will you be angry with us forever, prolong
Your wrath for all generations? Surely You will revive us again, so that
Your people may rejoice in You. Show us, O LORD, Your faithfulness;
grant us Your deliverance. Let me hear what God, the LORD, will speak;
He will promise well-being to His people, His faithful ones; may they
not turn to folly. His help is very near those who fear Him, to make His
glory dwell in our land. Faithfulness and truth meet; justice and
well-being kiss. Truth springs up from the earth; justice looks down
from heaven. The LORD also bestows His bounty; our land yields its
produce. Justice goes before Him as He sets out on His way.
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I have a few 12" composite monochrome monitors for sale. Magnovax Computer
Monitor 80, Model number BM7650 074B. RCA type input for video only. (no
audio). Power, Brightness and Contrast dials in front, V and H hold and
position controls on the back. Nice little monitor that can be used for
PCs, Amigas, your VCR, security monitor. Excellent condition. I am asking
for $40 plus shipping and COD (not to exceed $10) if applicable.
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