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In article <ashok.661.0@biochemistry.cwru.edu> ashok@biochemistry.cwru.edu (Ashok Aiyar) writes:
>In article <354@lorien.OCF.LLNL.GOV> dave@angmar.llnl.gov (Dave Fuess) writes:
>
>>An earlier article in this newsgroup made reference to
>>WinQVT/Net version 3.4. Realy? Where? I tried archie
>>with no luck. It's probably just a typo.
>
>Not a typo. It was uploaded to ftp.cica.indiana.edu a couple days back.
>
>>But I sure would like to get one if it's real as I too
>>have a printer problem in WinQVT.
>
>Version 3.4 uses standard Windows printer drivers.
>
>Ashok
>
It's still in the pub/pc/win3/uploads directory as qvtnet34.zip.
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I am looking for Ultima V for the IBM, I would like the entire package
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Since it is an old game I do not want to pay a lot of money.
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In article <C4tr3M.Eqw@magpie.linknet.com> manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve Manes) writes:
>On the other hand, we can draw lessons from neighbors who are more
>culturally similar, namely the Canadians...
I don't think such a Canada is any more "culturally similar" to
the United States than England. In terms of laws regarding individual
rights, restrictions on police searches, etc... (all closely
related to crime) Canadian laws parallel England's and differ
greatly from those of the United States.
>...In fact, an exhaustive,
>seven-year study has already been done of the respective crime rates
>of Vancouver, British Columbia and Seattle, Washington... cities
>with roughly the same population, urban economy, geography
>and crime but with decidedly different approaches to gun control.
Actually, they do not have "roughly the same... urban economy",
and extremely different ethnic composition.
>Over the seven-year study, 388 homicides occurred in Seattle
>(11.3 per 100,000) vs. 204 homicides in Vancouver (6.9 per 100,000).
>After adjustment for differences in age and sex among the populations,
>the relative risk of being a victim of homicide in Seattle, as
>compared to Vancouver, was found to be 1.63.
However, if you account for economic and ethnic differences,
the difference disappears completely: Seattle's minorities are
predominatly poor, while Vancouver's are middle or upper class.
The rates for whites in both cities were found to be identicle,
while the rate for poor, Seattle minorities was almost three
times as great as for the well-to-do minorities of Vancouver.
The pattern seems to be one of poverty and race relations, not
one of gun control.
>The authors of the report also investigated "legally justifiable"
>homicides (self-defense). Only 32 such homicides occurred during
>the seven-year study, 11 of which were committed by police. Only
>21 cases of civilians acting in self-defense occurrred...
That is a gross distortion: "Self-defense" does not mean killing
the attacker. There were 21 cases of civilians killing their
attacker in self-defence. But such cases represent less that
0.5% of the crimes prevented by armed self-defence; for every
case you cite, there were over 200 other cases of self-defence
where the crime was prevented but the attacker was not killed.
(0.5%, by the way, is the most conservative possible figure,
based on the National Crime Survey's estimate of 80,000
crimes prevented by armed self-defence each year. Most other
studies on the subject put the figure at 500,000 to 600,000.
Those figures would imply less than 0.08% of sucessful self-defences
involve killing the attacker.)
So, more correctly, there over 4000 (possibly as many as 25,000)
cases of civilians acting in self-defence, only 21 of which resulted
in the death of the attacker. This is a significant factor, in
comparison to the 592 homicides. If memory serves, homicides
make up approximately 1% of the violent crimes the study
considered, so the fair comparison would be 40 - 250 homicides
prevented and 592 homicides. Clearly, the study can not be
close to accurate, since it ignored these cases of self-defence.
Frank Crary
CU Boulder
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <9304261216.AA04485@crnsu1.in2p3.fr> michel@crnsu1.IN2p3.FR (6893) writes:
>Path: wldelft.nl!sun4nl!mcsun!uunet!gatech!enterpoop.mit.edu!INTERNET!news-mail-gateway
>From: michel@crnsu1.IN2p3.FR (6893)
>Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
>Subject: creating a GIF file.
>Date: 26 Apr 1993 10:43:28 -0400
>Organization: The Internet
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>Sender: news@athena.mit.edu
>Message-ID: <9304261216.AA04485@crnsu1.in2p3.fr>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
>To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
>
> We are looking for a X client which can convert a xwd or a bitmap
>file into a gif file for use on a Macintosh.
>
> Thanks
>
> michel@crnsu1.in2p3.fr
> Laurent MICHEL
> CRN - GTI
> BP 20
> 67037 STRASBOURG cedex (France)
> Phone (33) 88 28 62 76
Just look at the pbmplus package; it does everything you could ever ask
for in converting pbm to almost any format (gif, tga, pcx etc...)
Arno Duijndam
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1993Apr30.101054.1@stsci.edu> hathaway@stsci.edu writes:
>... Also, as implied by other posters, why
>do you need to boost the orbit on this mission anyway? ...
You don't *need* to, but it's desirable. HST, like all satellites in
low Earth orbit, is gradually losing altitude due to air drag. It was
deployed in the highest orbit the shuttle could reach, for that reason.
It needs occasional reboosting or it will eventually reenter. (It has
no propulsion system of its own.) This is an excellent opportunity,
given that there may not be another visit for several years.
--
SVR4 resembles a high-speed collision | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
between SVR3 and SunOS. - Dick Dunn | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
| 14sci.space |
In article <1993Apr22.001934.14921@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> hayesj@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (HAYES JAMES MICHAEL JR) writes:
>
>Trying to pin point a hardware problem with my disk, Maxtor
>7213AT. Group files get corrupted on a regular basis.
>Only happens on this drive, D had only one corrupt file
>in over a year and it was under the control of winword on C.
>32-bit disk access and smartdrive are off. Since installation
>of dblspace problem has turned from an annoyance to a reason for
>murder.
Are you using Fastopen? If you are, disable it. We had a lot
of problems with fastopen corrupting weird things (including
the Windows permanent swap file) when we were using it.
>
>Since the most frequent files corrupted are the *.grp files,
>are these the last thing written to when exitting Windows?
Indeed they are. Advanced Personal Measure tells me they are accessed
just before shell.dll
>
>Also, are there any pd/shareware utilities available that do
>a more thorough job than dos 6, NDD 4.5, etc? DOS 6 and
>Win 3.1 compatable.
I really like Spinrite and QA Plus
Tom
paladin@world.std.com
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <C5xBwr.5B8@world.std.com>, htf@world.std.com (Harry Carter) writes:
>sunshine@cco.caltech.edu (Tom Renner) writes:
>
>>v111qheg@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (P.VASILION) writes:
>
>>>Can you imagine what happens when a magazine explodes? Bullets go flying every
>>>where. IMHO, these "gunshot wounds" were actually caused when the magazines
>>>went up.
>
>>A minor technical point: unless a cartridge is contained (for example in the
>>chamber of a gun) when it goes off, very little of interest happens.....
>
>
>Quoting Hatcher's notebook:
> The Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufactures' Institute reported
> a demonstration made by taking a large quantity of metallic
> cartridges and shotgun shells and burning them in a fire of oil-
> soaked wood. The cartridges and shells exploded from time to
> time, but there was no general explosion or throwing off of
> bullets or shot to any distance.
> Throughout the test the men conducting it remained within 20 ft.
> of the fire without being injured in any way..... the material
> of which the cartridge and shells are composed will usually not
> fly more than a few feet.
> In tests conducted by the National Rifle Association, both rifle
> and pistol cartridges were exploded by heat under an ordinary
> corrugated pasteboard carton, and neither fragments of the
> cartridge cases nor bullets penetrated the cardboard.
>
>
> Any scientists care to try this out in their kitchen? :-)
Here goes:
More than a few years back (if you were born that year, you can legally drink),
we tried it out. We found an 8 ft. deep cistern that we lined with some 10 ft.
2X6s. We put a large can (one of those industrial sized pork'n beans cans)
stuffed with oily rags and scraps of wood in the bottom. After lighting the
fire, we LOWERED a box of .38 Spc. SWCs into the can. We heard pops, one solid
bang and several "fizzzz shussss". After we thought the excitment was over, we
boldly climbed down to find that NONE of the bullets had left the can, several
of the shells were lieing around the bottom of the well and the boards had all
died of smoke inhalation. And 5 or 6 of the shells still had live primers!
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
DEPOSITION of VITALY NIKOLAYEVICH DANIELIAN [1]
Born 1972
Attended 9th Grade
Middle School No. 17
Resident at Building 4/2, Apartment 25
Microdistrict No. 3
Sumgait [Azerbaijan]
Really, people in town didn't know what was happening on February 27. I came
home from school at 12 o'clock, being excused to leave before the last period
in order to go to Baku. When we left, everything in town was fine. Life was
the same as usual, a few groups of people were discussing things, soccer and
other things. Then we got on the Sumgait bus bound for Baku for my first
cousin's birthday, my father, my mother, and I. We spent the day in Baku, and
on the 28th, somewhere around 6:00 p.m., we got on the bus for home, figuring
that I'd have enough time to do my homework for the next day.
When we were entering town, near the 12-story high-rises, our bus was stopped
by a very large crowd. The crowd demanded that the Armenians get off the bus.
The driver says that there are no Armenians on board; then everyone on the bus
begins to shout that there are no Armenians on board. The group comes up to
the doors of the bus and has people get out one by one, not checking
passports, just going by the way people look. We get off the bus, but are not
taken for Armenians.
We set out in the direction of home. At first we were going to go into an old
building where we knew there'd be a place to hide, but the whole road was
packed with groups of people, all the way from Block 41 to the 8th
Microdistrict. These groups were emptying people's pockets and checking
passports. People who didn't have passports with them were beaten as well.
Then we decided to go home instead. Near the 12-story high-rises I saw burning
cars and a great many people standing around the driveways, yelling. "Death to
the Armenians" was written on the cars.
When we came into the courtyard--we live in an L-shaped building--it was still
quiet. We went on upstairs, but didn't turn on any lights. We tried to call
Baku to warn our relatives, who were due to arrive on Wednesday, not to come.
Then there was a knock at the door. It was our neighbors, who advised us to
come down to stay at their place. We went down to their place, and they led us
to the basement. They live on the first floor and have a basement which you
enter across the balcony. We sat in the basement while an Armenian woman was
beaten--she ran away naked. Our neighbors' daughter said that that's right,
that's what the Armenians deserve, because in Stepanakert, allegedly, people
were being killed, 11 girls from Agdam had been raped. We didn't stay very
long in the basement. We tried to support one another as best we could,
looking out the small window with the iron grating. Papa watched and said
things now and then. He said that there was a fire near Building 5, probably a
car on fire. Then one of the groups approached our driveway and demanded that
they be shown the apartments where Armenians lived. The neighbors said that
there weren't any Armenians here, and the group set out for the other wing of
the building. They appeared from the 5/2 side of the building, where, I later
found out, a woman had been murdered. The woman who ran away naked died. Yuri
Avakian was killed, too.
When the crowd left, the neighbors said that it was all over and we could go
home. We went back up to our place and again didn't turn on the light. We
started to gather up our things in order to leave Sumgait for a while. We
tried to call a relative who lived in Sumgait, but there was no answer. We
decided she had already left.
We sat at home. The phone rang, and the caller asked to speak with my
father. I called him to the phone. It was Jeykhun Mamedov, from my father's
work brigade. He said he was disgusted by what was happening in our
town. He asked for our address and promised to get a car and help us get
out of the city. To be quite honest, Papa didn't want to give him our address,
but my mother got on the phone and told him. Some 15 minutes after the
call a crowd ran into our entryway. Bursting into the building, they broke
down the door and came into the apartment . . .
They came straight to our apartment, they knew exactly where the Armenians
were. They came into our place. We tried to resist, but there was nothing we
could do. One of them took my parents' passports and began to read them. He
read the surname "Danielian," turned the page, read "Armenian," and that alone
was enough to doom us. He said that we should be moved quickly out into the
courtyard, where they would have done with us. Another, standing next to him,
pushed some of the keys on the piano and said "your death has tolled." They
had knives and steel truncheons.
I had a knife in my hand. Unfortunately, I didn't use it. I just knew that if
I didn't give up the knife things would be much worse. They struck my parents
and said that I should put the knife on the piano. Then, one of them commanded
that we be taken outside. One person was giving orders. When we were taken
outdoors I went in the middle, and my mother was behind me. Someone started to
push her so she'd walk faster; I let her go ahead of me, and fell in behind
her. When he tried to push me, I hit him, and at that moment they began
beating my parents; I realized that resistance was completely useless.
We are taken out into the courtyard, and the neighbors are standing on their
balconies to see what will happen next. The crowd surrounds us. At first they
strike me, and I'm knocked out; when I come to, they beat me again . . . I
lose consciousness often . . . I don't see or hear my parents, since I was the
first one hit and was out cold. When I come to I try to pick them up; they are
lying next to me. The crowd is gone, the only people around are watching from
their balconies. That's it. I try to pick them up, but can't. My left arm is
broken. I start toward the drive, wanting to tell the neighbors to call an
ambulance. The bodies of my parents are still warm.
We were attacked at around 9 o'clock. I regain consciousness at about 11 and
try to make it up the stairs home . . . When I knock at the neighbors' door,
they push me back and tell me to go away. I go up to the third floor, our
neighbor puts a damp cloth on my head and says she will call an ambulance; she
sends her son off for one and takes me to our apartment. I often look out the
window to see if the ambulance has arrived, but I can't see very far as a
result of the blows, and it seems that my parents have already been taken
away. Then I calm down and try to convince myself that they have been taken
away, and everything will be OK.
But they were still there. Later, at 8 in the morning as I found out, the
ambulance picked them up, but they were already dead. If they received
attention on time, it is possible they would still be alive. Later, around 12
o'clock on the 29th, policemen in civilian clothing come to our house with
some "assistants." They call an ambulance, and 20 minutes later it arrives,
and I am taken to the Sumgait Emergency Hospital. There they stitch the wounds
on my head and rebind my arm. At 3 o'clock I and the other Armenians who are
in the hospital are sent by ambulance to Baku.
In my ward at the Sumgait Hospital there were five people, all of them
Armenians. The hospital was nearly overflowing with Armenians. The only
Azerbaijanis there were those whose car had flipped over before the events,
before the 27th.
Then I was in the Semashko Hospital in Baku. I was there 38 days. When I was
released, on the 40th day, I found out that my parents were dead. At first
they told me that they were in Moscow being treated, but later I found out
that they were dead. My father's older brother told me.
My father's name was Nikolai Artemovich Danielian. He was born in 1938. My
mother, born in 1937, was Seda Osipovna Danielian. Papa worked at PMK-20, the
leader of the roofing brigade; mamma was a compressor operator.
They were also beaten on the head. The coroner's report stated that their
heads were smashed open and bled profusely.
At the confrontation I met Jeykhun Mamedov, who had called. As it turned out
later, he had been the one who tipped the crowd off. He had called
specifically to find out if we were at home and to find out the exact address
and dispatch the group. He knew the phone number, but didn't know the address.
Before the events I had never seen him, but had often spoken with him on the
phone, when he would ask to speak with my father. I knew him by name. He
denies that I was the one who answered the phone, saying that my father
answered it. He denies that he called from a public phone, saying that he
called from home, which also isn't true. I heard noise and the sounds of
automobiles. As I later found out, earlier he had been convicted, but had
never served any time--he had received a suspended sentence. He was about 20
years old. I don't know if he has since confessed or not. I am sure that he
was the one who tipped the crowd off. One-hundred percent sure.
My parents were from Karabagh. Father was from the village of Badar, and was
two years old when his family moved to Baku, where his elder brothers were to
go to school. He was a student at the Naval School, but never graduated. He
went off to work on the virgin lands [one of the gigantic agricultural
projects instituted under Khrushchev.] When he returned he lived in Baku, and
later moved to Sumgait, helping with the town's construction. Mamma was from
the village of Dagdagan, also from Karabagh. She worked in Sumgait, first in
a bookstore, and later, on a construction site.
My sister is older than I. She lives with her husband here in Karabagh. I
always loved my parents. That was why I went on to 9th grade, because it
was their dream that I would continue my studies. I finished 8th grade and
wanted to enter the Baku Nautical School, and after that, the Military
School. But later I changed my mind, or rather, my parents got me to recon-
sider, saying that it would be better to finish the 10th grade and then join
the Naval School. I was planning to be in the Navy almost my whole life
long--since childhood I had dreamed of being a sailor. My father wanted it
more than anything. He always recollected his youth, telling of the School,
and he always said that he had made a big mistake in leaving it.
Now I live in Karabagh and never plan to leave here. I will stay at the home
of my grandfather, of my ancestors, till the end of my days.
While in the hospital in Baku I learned the fates of many others who had
suffered as well, like Ishkhan [Trdatov]. He managed to hold them off [at
their residence in Microdistrict 3, Building 6/2, Apartment 6.] for a long
time, lost his father [Gabriel], and by some miracle managed to survive. I
also learned of Uncle Sasha, from Building 5/2, whose daughter was raped
. . . Besides them, Valery--I forgot his last name--was in the hospital too,
about a year younger than I, he went to School No. 14. He was riding with
his parents in the car. People were throwing rocks at them, he was hit, and
his parents brought him to the hospital, and he was in our ward. We even
came to be friends. Before that we had just seen each other around town. But
in the hospital we got to know one another better. I learned of the fates of
others, those who had died, or who were befallen by misfortune . . .
Today Suren Harutunian, the First Secretary of the Communist party of Armenia,
was shown on television. To be honest I am glad that Armenia agreed to
recognize Nagorno Karabagh as part of the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic.
I was repelled, no, revolted, to hear the Baku announcer who read the decision
of the Azerbaijani Supreme Soviet Presidium against Karabagh becoming part of
Armenia.
After the events in Sumgait and those in Baku, the best solution is to give
Karabagh to Armenia, return it to Armenia, since the people want to live
peacefully with the Azerbaijanis, but everything has to be right before they
can do that.
I arrived in Karabagh on April 11. I felt very bad. I had constant headaches.
After a while my strength returned. My older sister, Suzanna, took me in. I
think that justice should prevail; the people are demanding their due.
You can't take away what is their due. My parents and I often spoke of Nagorno
Karabagh, often visited here--spent almost all of my vacations here. We had
even decided that if Karabagh would be made part of Armenia, we would move
here for sure. We always said that the Armenian people had suffered much, and
that what had been done in 1921--removing Nagorno Karabagh from Armenia--was
wrong. Sooner or later, mistakes should be corrected. And in order to correct
a mistake, it must not be repeated; and the fate of all Nagorno Karabagh lies
in the hands of our government.
June 13,1988
Stepanakert
--
David Davidian dbd@urartu.sdpa.org | "How do we explain Turkish troops on
S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies | the Armenian border, when we can't
P.O. Box 382761 | even explain 1915?"
Cambridge, MA 02238 | Turkish MP, March 1992
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <C5x6vH.1In@inform.co.nz> dev2@inform.co.nz (Michael Seales) writes:
>In article <1993Apr20.083340.2309@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>, bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:
>> There have been a *lot* of posts lately about "I wanna buy my first bike - is a
>> GSXR/ZX/CBR/FZR a good bike to learn on?" etc.
>
>Sure they are. Here we can buy:
>
>GSXR250
>CBR250
>FZR250
The prob is that you're wrong.
Newbie here.
I just got off the phone with a salesman
that showed by newbieness.
If I remember what he said correctly:
GSXR250 - no such thing
CBR250 - NO. Its CB250.
FZR250 - no such thing.
Most sport bikes don't have 250 versions.
BS
| 8rec.motorcycles |
I need a large dog cage, the kind you use to housebreak a dog when you
are not around. I have been adopted by a 11 month old non-housetrained
huskey. I am in the Pittsburgh area. My number is 412 268-8843.
| 6misc.forsale |
Harvested to order?
| 13sci.med |
> Go to hell. I'm no "government [-] following fanatic." Your sweeping
> generalizations evince your own ignorance. What were they supposed
> to do? Just let him be?
once upon a time, that's exactly what they would have done & everyone
could have just gone on living a peaceful (if well armed) life. what
is it that makes people think they have the right -not- to just leave
others be?
jason
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`,` "Innocence, joy, and squeezable fun for everyone" - TOYS `,`
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <healta.145.734928689@saturn.wwc.edu>, healta@saturn.wwc.edu (Tammy R Healy) writes:
|> I hope you're not going to flame him. Please give him the same coutesy you'
|> ve given me.
|>
|> Tammy
If a person gives a well-balanced reasoned argument, Tammy, then all are
happy to discuss it with him. If he makes astounding claims, which are not
backed up with any evidence then he must be expected to substantiate them.
If the original author had said that everything was his own opinion and not
supportable then people would have simply ignored him. He did not. He
claimed many things and his logic was seriously flawed. His argument was for
christianity in an effort to try to convince atheists like myself to believe
him and his message. I for one will not take things as read. If you told me
that pink fluffy elephants did the dance of the sugar plum fairy on the dark
side of Jupiter then I would demand evidence!
Adda
--
+-------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
| Adda Wainwright | Does dim atal y llanw! 8o) |
| eczcaw@mips.nott.ac.uk | 8o) Mae .sig 'ma ar werth! |
+-------------------------+-----------------------------------------------+
| 0alt.atheism |
I was wondering what the country extension are.
Sometimes I just don't have a clue from where
some people are writing.
These are the extensions I know of
ch Switzerland
se Sweden
fi Finland
uk UK
Com US?
Edu US? (are both com and edu US?)
fr France
Please feel free to add to this list.
/ Markus
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| 7rec.autos |
In article <1993Apr21.183307.18345@rosevax.rosemount.com>, grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) writes:
|> mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm Lee) writes:
|>
|> : God allows people to choose who and what they want to worship.
|> : Worship of money is one of the greatest religions in this country.
|>
|> At least I can prove that money exists. Can you say the same for your
|> god?
|>
I have evidence that you will not accept that proves to me that God
exists. I have my personal experiences that have proven to me time
and again that God does exist. My life has not been a bed of roses
and He has been there for me when no one else was around and pulled
me through those times. Of course, I know this means nothing to you
because it didn't happen to you. I can't prove to you that God
exists anymore than you can prove that He doesn't.
It ultimately boils down to faith. Whether or not you believe in
God is a matter strictly between you and Him. I am just the messenger.
I don't judge and I don't condemn you for not accepting God. That is
not my place. You are not my enemy. Satan is our common enemy. And
the only way we can defeat Satan is through Jesus Christ.
|> : |> Maybe David Koresh really was Jesus Christ (sure sounds like a neat
|> : |> opening epic for a new major religion to me). --
|> :
|> : NOT! He was an egomaniac who had the attention of the entire world
|> : for a brief moment in time.
|>
|> I see. And what was that guy two thousand years ago who thought he
|> was god? Sounds like an egomanic to me. How do you know that Koresh
|> wasn't who he claimed?
|>
He fulfilled the prophesies told about Him. He performed miracles.
You know, healing the sick and ressurrecting the dead. Jesus died
and rose from the dead just as He said He would. He preached that
we should love God and love one another as we do ourselves. Jesus
put into practice that which He preached. And He rose from the
dead! His spirit now lives in me. He changed the world not through
the use of a sword that cleaves the flesh but the Word of God that
cleaves us from sin.
Compare this to DK who made promises of surrendering and then balked
when his deluded predictions didn't come to pass. In the end, he
chose to kill himself and everyone with him to hide the shame of
being a false Messiah.
|> : Rather than live with the shame of being taken captive by the FBI,
|> : Koresh chose to kill himself and his followers. Sick and . . . sad.
|>
|> Jesus allowed himself to be killed. Many of his followers have killed
|> and died for _thier_ beliefs. Sorry, I don't see the difference.
|>
Jesus allowed himself to be killed in order to fulfill prophecy. As
you may recall on the Mount of Olives, Jesus prayed to God that if this
fate could have been avoided He would have taken it. But instead,
out of love for mankind, Jesus chose to accept the agonizing sentence
placed upon Him and thus redeem all mankind. Jesus died to save
everyone, even those who crucifed Him. He's already gone to Hell and
back for you and for me. All He asks is your love.
Which followers do you refer to? There have been many who have used
His name to further their own gains. They would have done the same
even if there was no Jesus in the first place. For example, Bush
claimed that God was on their side when they attacked Iraq and Saddam
claimed to have God on his side when he invaded Kuwait. IMO, God
would have nothing to do with either side. They were fighting over
oil, plain and simple.
God be with you,
Malcolm Lee :)
|>
|> --
|> Grant Edwards |Yow! Where do your SOCKS go
|> Rosemount Inc. |when you lose them in th'
|> |WASHER?
|> grante@aquarius.rosemount.com |
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1r15rvINNh8p@ctron-news.ctron.com>, king@ctron.com (John E. King) writes:
>
>
>adpeters@sunflower.bio.indiana.edu (Andy Peters) writes:
>
>>> Macroevolution is
>>> a mixture of 15 percent science and 85 percent religion [guaranteed
>>> within three percent error :) ]
>
To repeat what I had said in an earlier post: Evolution is
a theory. If you accept it as fact, then that is faith and
not much different from religion. If you accept it as the
theory it is, then there is 0% religion involved and it
can be quite useful in the realm of science.
Simply put, evolution/creation when each is looked at
properly -- theory/assertion not fact/fiction -- is a
specific example of exactly what separates soft athiesm
and science from religion.
-jim halat
| 0alt.atheism |
HI!
I need a codabar font for win. TT or other.
Thanks!
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <h1p4s4g@zola.esd.sgi.com> erik@westworld.esd.sgi.com (Erik Fortune) writes:
>> better than CDI
>*Much* better than CDI.
Of course, I do not agree. It does have more horsepower. Horsepower is not
the only measurement for 'better'. It does not have full motion, full screen
video yet. Does it have CD-ROM XA?
>> starting in the 4 quarter of 1993
>The first 3DO "multiplayer" will be manufactured by panasonic and will be
>available late this year. A number of other manufacturers are reported to
>have 3DO compatible boxes in the works.
Which other manufacturers?
We shall see about the date.
>All this information is third hand or so and worth what you paid for it:-).
This is second hand, but it still hard to look to the future ;-).
Lex van Sonderen
lex@aimla.com
Philips Interactive Media
| 1comp.graphics |
There is just something disconcerting about the name of this group. :)
| 7rec.autos |
rbunge@access.digex.net (Robert Bunge) writes:
>In article <C69AGI.MJu@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Josh Hopkins) writes:
>>I'm wondering if "vandalize" is the proper word to use in this situation. My
>>dictionary defines "vandalism" as "the willful or malicious destructuion of
>>public or private property, especially of anything beautiful or artisitc." I
>>would agree the sky is beautiful, but not that it is public or private property.
>It's public because it belongs to everybody.
No, the sky does not, at this time, belong to anyone. Ownership is necessary
to the definition because someone has to have the authority to decide if the
action was good or bad. If neither you or I own a brick wall, then I can't
unilaterally declare that spraypainting my name on it is right, and you don't
have the authority to declare that it is wrong. The owner may find it artistic
or she may be call the police.
(this applies to the argument on bright satellites more than street lights)
It's vandalism because many people -- power companies -- do maliciously waste light.
"maliciously" implies evil intent. The lighting companies aren't going out
of their way to spoil the sky. They just don't care.
>If they can sell you
>or your city or your state an unshielded light that wastes 30 to 50 percent
>of its light, they make more _money_. Never mind that your money is wasted.
It is the responsibility of the customer to choose the most efficient hardware.
If that's what your city will buy, that's what the lighting company will sell.
Write a letter to city hall.
Please note that I'm not defending light pollution. The orignial focus of
this thread was space based light sources.
--
Josh Hopkins jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
"Find a way or make one."
-attributed to Hannibal
| 14sci.space |
Well I am not sure if this is the right newsgroup to ask, but let me try anyway.
I am running xterm and like all UNIX users, I run man <something>. Recently,
I switched to Solaris 2.1, and their man pages are littered with ".I" directives
that are somehow translated into reverse video when displayed by man under xterm.
The resulting output (admittedly a personal taste) is very ANNOYING to look at.
Back when I was using SunOS 4.1.2, I remember their man pages have some keywords
displayed with underlining....
So my question is how do I change the xterm's behaviour under ".I" directives
for nroff man pages, to perhaps underlining, or at least disabling it. (".B"
directives are fine, I like them. And of course, I don't want to go in and edit
the man pages inputs...) Somehow, xterm allows one to specify both a normal font
and a bold font, but not an italic font??
Any pointers, suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Thanks -- John
P.S. Running xterm -rv won't work, I tried...
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <C4vrII.H2@exnet.co.uk>, s0xjg@exnet.co.uk (Xavier Gallagher) writes:
> In article <15150@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> >In article <C4oBCK.761@unix.portal.com>, drakon@shell.portal.com (Harry Benjamin Gibson) writes:
# #They believe that they have a right to FORCE people to hire them,
# #rent to them, and do business with them, regardless of the feelings
# #or beliefs of the other person.
#
# Cramer, you are off your target again. The law *forces* no one to obey
# it. At every point any individual may stand up and say *this law
# sucks*. Even you could say this. Gay men and women have not *forced*
You mean they passed a law that does nothing at all? No enforcement
mechanisms? As usual, you are wrong.
# any off this. Changes in the law have been brought about by
# democratic* processes, those same processes are the ones that protect
# you from certain abuses.
Yeah, right. I guess the next time a homosexual complains about
sodomy laws, I can just echo your stupidity about "democratic
processes" and he won't have any basis for complaint.
# #I must admit that I never understood why it is referred to as an
# #abomination, until I started to read soc.motss, and started finding
# #evidence that homosexuality is a response to child molestation --
# #which is disproportionately done by homosexuals. (Just to make
# #Brian Kane happy -- 30% of molestation is done by homosexuals and
# #bisexuals, but it is possible that this is because homosexual/bisexual
# #molesters have far more victims than heterosexual molesters.)
#
# No it isn't. No it isn't. No it isn't and it depends on the subset
# (note *subset*) of abuse you look at.
Repeating it three times makes it more correct?
# #Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
# #Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
#
# * Xavier Gallagher*************************** Play ***************************
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
I'm looking for some specs for a Toshiba TA6267-BP. It appears
to be a power amp housed in a 7-pin inline package and is used
in my Mitsubishi VCR, circa 1985, as a DC motor controller for
the tape drive.
Checking in the oldest IC Master I have (1990), I don't see it
listed, and it appears to have been discontinued. If anyone
has anything on this part, I'd be *greatly* indebted!
thanks in advance,
aaron
| 12sci.electronics |
currently I am using the 8051 microcontroller with external eprom..
In order to drive the dc motor (with direction) I use the Pulse width modultion
thru software control(Assembly language programming). However I am afraid that
they will be overheads and thus alter the pulse timing. My question is
is the software pwm control reliable?. I understand that port 0 is a latch
and so I vary the duty cycle by setting it high first and at the desire
duty cycle then I set low..? Any improments ?
| 12sci.electronics |
My vote goes to John Vanbiesbrouck. His mask has a skyline of New York
City, and on the sides there are a bunch of bees (Beezer). It looks
really sharp.
--
Keith Keller LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!
LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!!
kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!!
"When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you."
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1993Apr28.143057.8335@fuw.edu.pl>, muchor@fuw.edu.pl (Krzysztof Muchorowski) writes:
|> Hello,
|> Subject says it all. I need a GIF to Targa converter, so that my
|> dta15 could make a .FLI of them.
|> Krzysztof
|>
DTA will make a .FLI from GIFs as well as Targas. You don't need a converter.
Also..get the latest version of DTA from wuarchive.wustl.edu in pub/msdos_uploads.
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <1r8vg9$rl5@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, mfrhein@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Frederick Rhein) writes:
> To Rob and all others that have been debating about the wood stove.
> The original post claimed that the ATF/FBI was pumping napalm into the
> building with the hopes that the wood stove inside would ignite it. I responed
> with why would the wood stove be lit in the first place? It wouldn't be lit
> for heating purposes because of the weather in Texas.
Which statement is dead wrong, because our local posters have confirmed that
it was quite chilly that morning.
> Everyone now claims that it was for cooking.
No, we argue that it was not entirely unreasonable for a woodstove to be
operational.
> Stop and think about this. CS gas was being pumped
> into the building and I presume that everyone was wearing gas masks (either
> bought or some type of makeshift type) and this had been going on for 6 hours.
> I don't know if you have ever been around CS, but I have. Being exposed to CS
> gas was part of my Army training, so I know that without a mask it VERY
> uncomfortable and makes your eyes water, nose run, and makes you sick in
> the stomach. And with the mask it is very difficult to drink water much less
> eat. So my question now is "why were they cooking food?"
Obviously you missed my earlier posting about the physica of woodstoves.
In brief, you can't turn your woodstove on and off like your gas range.
It stays on all the time. It even stays "on" for over 24 hours AFTER you
shut it off (which is why most working woodstoves aren't ever "shut off"
until spring).
--
cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company,
OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Hello,
I am writing a grant proposal for a Developmental Genetics class and I
have chose to look at the Neurofibromatosis 1 gene and its variable
expressivity. I am curious what has already been done on this subject,
especially the relationship between specific mutations and the resulting
phenotype. My literature search has produce many references, but I want to
make sure I am proposing new research. If anyone knows aything that has been
recently or key peopl doing research to search for using MEDLINE, I would
apprciate being informed.
Thank you.
Lisa Megna
lmegna@titan.ucc.umass.edu
| 13sci.med |
In article <C5r5vt.941@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (OrioleFan@uiuc) writes:
>jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann) writes:
[deleted]
> Someone told me this game started at 10:05 cdt. Is this true??/ Who
>in their right mind would go to a game on monday at 11AM????
Keep in mind this was in Massachussetts. Today was Patriots Day, a state
holiday. I think it might be a floating holiday, but given that the
Marathon also happens the same day, most people don't go in.
--
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
Dan S.
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article QfpfQaK00Vot4BpEdD@andrew.cmu.edu, Mike Molloy <mmaq+@andrew.cmu.edu> () writes:
>I haven't seen any mention of Ogrodnick yet in the box scores.
>
>Does anyone know if he's playing?
>
>Mike
He's been out, but he isn't injured. He played well when he was put into the lineup at the end of the season - Murray has to sit somebody out, though. If the Red Wings hadn't played as well as they did in the first game, he may have been in the second. Why should Murray juggle players when the Wings are dominating Toronto like they are?
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
mre@teal.Eng.Sun.COM (Mike Eisler) writes:
>I've been a loyal ticket holder, since day 1 (literally) in spring of
>'90 when the team was announced. and I'm not getting that loyalty
>returned.
Well, so are we, and we see it completely different than you. Guess it's a
matter of perspective.
--
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Member, SFWA =+= Editor, OtherRealms =+= GEnie: MAC.BIGOT =+= ALink:CHUQ
Minor League fans: minors-request@medraut.apple.com (San Jose Giants: A/1/9)
San Francisco Giants fans: giants-request@medraut.apple.com (The Stick?NOT!)
San Jose Sharks fans: sharks-request@medraut.apple.com (New seat: 127/TBD)
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Does anybody have an X server for NT that they're willing to share files
or experiences?
Bill Steer
Westinghouse
| 5comp.windows.x |
Has anyone had experience buying computers from Comtrade? When I asked about
TC, I got one reply describing problems returning a defective hard drive.
Should I expect any problems from Comtrade?
Thanks,
Carlisle Thacker
Miami FL
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
I just picked up a second-hand "color option" for the NEC P5200
24pin dot matrix printer. Alas, there were no installation instructions,
so I am totally confused on WHY it WON'T GO IN!
Do I have to remove the actaual print head? It seems *almost* to fit,
but not quite.
Please... any info would be most appreciated!
X-------------------+--------------+-----------------------X
| | |\ |>jon@chopin.udel.edu<| "For my 2 cents, |
| \|on |/eutsch |>>-----------------<<| I'd pay a dollar" |
X------+--------------------+--------------------+---------X
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1993Apr22.165002.18208@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tree of Schnopia) writes:
> In <15501@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# #I used to think that homosexuals were OK -- but havng now gotten a
# #chance through USENET to know quite a few, I've realized that I was
# #misled in my youth. Homosexuals are vicious, screwed-up, often
# #really evil people.
#
# That's a load of shit. If you really have the naivete to believe that the
# bozos over on soc.motss characterize our entire populace, you need to LIVE a
# little. Try soc.bi, for example...you'll find almost exclusively a bunch of
Yet, the characteristics of soc.motss fit quite well with the other
evidence that is available. High promiscuity, child sexual abuse
history, support for child molestation advocacy groups like NAMBLA,
S&M, etc.
# well-adjusted, friendly, humanistic people. And, in any case, I think
# you'll find that most people are quite different from the persona they
# present on USENET. For all I know, you're a wonderful, enlightened human
# being taking the role of hatemonger for satirical effect.
#
# Somehow I doubt it, though....
Hatemonger: someone who reminds people of why homosexuals are dying
in such large quantities of AIDS -- because their sexual compulsions
prevented them from keeping their number of sexual partners below
four digits.
# ## I've got a few clues for you. (a) I'm not working to pass any laws. (b)
#
# #It's being done in your name.
#
# And that makes it my responsibility, I see. Suppose I kill someone in the
# name of Clayton Cramer. How does that make you a murderer?
If I know about it, and don't express my disapproval, it certainly
would make you suspicious about me, wouldn't it?
# #My morals aren't yours. I wouldn't march in a parade with a group
# #that advocates child molestation. It doesn't stop homosexuals.
#
# I wouldn't march in a parade with a group like that either. And if you're
# talking about NAMBLA, I think you'll find that they DO NOT advocate child
# molestation. I also think you'll find that the VAST MAJORITY of homosexuals
They advocate sex between adults and children, with NO lower limit on
age. But that's right, homosexuals don't believe that an adult sodomizing
a five year old is child molestation.
# will have no truck with that group anyway.
Fooled me. They march in a number of gay parades around the country.
# ## #Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
# ## #Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
# ##
# ## But not between members of the same sex, right? How can you live with such
# ## hypocrisy?
# ##
# ## ----bi Andrew D. Simchik SCHNOPIA!
#
# #Sure. Whatever consenting adults want to do in private is none of
# #the government's business. YOU are the ones that want more laws
# #telling me what to do in private.
#
# Quit lumping me in with groups. The fact is that homophobia is an evil,
# unjustified prejudice, just like racism or sexism. You can't reject all but
# one of those.
#
# Drewcifer
It is NOTHING like racism or sexism. You CHOOSE to be a homosexual.
My distaste for homosexuality is because of what homosexuals DO.
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
I have a question regarding sending a NULL character across ethernet
connection. The actual problem is that emacs (Unix editior) needs
the NULL character for setting a mark and unfortunately we don't know
how to sent that from IBM PCs across ethernet. I am wondering if anyboy
knows the keyboard combination for sending the NULL character.
BTW control,shift 2 which Ctrl @ does not work.
Thanks
Saeid
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <SUOPANKI.93Apr6024902@stekt6.oulu.fi> suopanki@stekt6.oulu.fi (Heikki T. Suopanki) writes:
>:> God is eternal. [A = B]
>:> Jesus is God. [C = A]
>:> Therefore, Jesus is eternal. [C = B]
>
>:> This works both logically and mathematically. God is of the set of
>:> things which are eternal. Jesus is a subset of God. Therefore
>:> Jesus belongs to the set of things which are eternal.
>
>Everything isn't always so logical....
>
>Mercedes is a car.
>That girl is Mercedes.
>Therefore, that girl is a car?
This is not strickly correct. Only by incorrect application of the
rules of language, does it seem to work.
The Mercedes in the first premis, and the one in the second are NOT
the same Mercedes.
In your case,
A = B
C = D
A and D are NOT equal. One is a name of a person, the other the
name of a object. You can not simply extract a word without taking the
context into account.
Of course, your case doesn't imply that A = D.
In his case, A does equal D.
Try again...
---
"One thing that relates is among Navy men that get tatoos that
say "Mom", because of the love of their mom. It makes for more
virile men."
Bobby Mozumder ( snm6394@ultb.isc.rit.edu )
April 4, 1993
The one TRUE Muslim left in the world.
| 0alt.atheism |
I'll tell youm all one thing. Steve howe and FARR are much better then the
worst pitcher in yankee Pitching ___________________
WHO do you think I am talking about. I'll post the answers if you e-mail
to me. Use reply. or post you're answers, but e-mailing them to me meaqns
that I will post the final results. I have one particular horrid pitcher
in mind.
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1993Apr15.011805.28485@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, swr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (SCOTT WARREN ROSANDER) writes:
|> In article <C5Csux.Fn1@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, gdhg8823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (George Hei
|> nz) writes:
|> >After too many years of school I'm finally graduating and getting a real
|> >job. Of course I am trying to make plans of how to spend all this extra
|> >money. Right now I have an 89 accord, a good car, but not real sporty &
|> >I was thinking of selling it in about two years and dropping around
|> >$20k on a sports car of some kind. After thinking about it, I may have a
|> >better idea -- I'll keep the Accord until it drops and buy the car I've
|> >always wanted -- a Corvette Stingray. My reasoning is that $8000 (accord)+
|> >$8000 (corvette) =$16000 is less than what I would spend anyway.
|> >
|> >Basically, I'm thinking of a late 70's, early 80's for around $7-$10k.
|> >My question is, what are good years to consider (for reliability, looks,
|> >horsepower -- in that order, believe it or not, horsepower is not a main
|> >concern, if I want to go fast, I get on my motorcycle) and what are
|> >good prices?
|> >
|> >Also, what would insurance look like? I'm male, single, 23 (I might
|> >wait until I'm 25 to get the car = lower insurance). Would the fact that
|> >I mainly drive the other car lower it? Is there some type of "classic
|> >car" or "rarely driven" insurance class for driving it under 10k miles
|> >per year?
|> >
|> My dad has a 66 vette and its on what you say 'classic insurance'.
|> Basically what that means is that it has restricted amount of driving
|> time, which basically means it cant be used as an every day car and would
|> probably suit your needs for limited mileage.
|> --
In addition to restricted mileage, many classic insurance carriers also require
that the vehicle be garaged when not in use.
$0.02
Ericy
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| 7rec.autos |
James Sledd asks:
1. What is the nature of eternal life?
2. How can we as mortals locked into space-time conceive of it?
2a. If the best we can do is metaphor/analogy, then what is the
best metaphor?
C S Lewis's essay THE WEIGHT OF GLORY deals with this question. I
recommend it enthusiastically. You might also read the chapter on
"Heaven" in his book THE PROBLEM OF PAIN. He gives a fictional
treatment in his book THE GREAT DIVORCE. I have found all of these
very helpful.
You might also be helped by the treatment in Dante's DIVINE COMEDY.
Heaven occupies the last third of the poem, but I cannot imagine
reading it other than from the beginning. I urge you to use the
translation by Dorothy L Sayers, available from Penguin Paperbacks.
Yours,
James Kiefer
| 15soc.religion.christian |
According to a previous poster, one should seek a doctor's
assistance for injections. But what about Sumatriptin [sp?]?
Doesn't one have to inject oneself immediately upon the onset
of a migraine?
| 13sci.med |
but whoever listens to me will live in safety and be at ease, without fear of
harm."
Proverbs 1:33
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1993Apr20.234427.1@aurora.alaska.edu>, nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu writes:
|> Okay here is what I have so far:
|>
|> Have a group (any size, preferibly small, but?) send a human being to the moon,
|> set up a habitate and have the human(s) spend one earth year on the moon. Does
|> that mean no resupply or ??
|>
|> Need to find atleast $1billion for prize money.
My first thought is Ross Perot. After further consideration, I think he'd
be more likely to try to win it...but come in a disappointing third.
Try Bill Gates. Try Sam Walton's kids.
Matt
matthew_feulner@qmlink.draper.com
| 14sci.space |
In article <C63srv.57w@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> chudel@watarts.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Hudel) writes:
>
>
>PS: all R5 apps run on R4/R3 servers,right?
The 4-bit server should work fine. As far as I know, Xterminals
running older versions can run the latest apps as long as the host
machine has the R5 libraries installed. I could be wrong though.
--
mike@hopper.acs.virginia.edu
"I will NOT raise taxes on the middle class." -Unknown
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1993Apr5.203719@usho0b.hou281.chevron.com> hhtra@usho0b.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock) writes:
>In article <1993Apr2.030031.15691@cactus.org>, boyle@cactus.org (Craig Boyle) writes:
>|> In article <1993Apr1.104746@usho72.hou281.chevron.com> hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock) writes:
>
> I found a Mopar spec sheet this weekend:
>
> model wgt hp
> Stealth 3086 164
> Stealth ES 3186 222
> Stealth RT 3373 222
> Stealth RT TT 3803 300
>
> Okay, I'll take "their" word for it.
These arethe numbers I have been stating in the past 5-10 messages. It
really angers me that you insisted you were right, and that you had
no clue what your own car weighed. Why didn't you check when I first
told you that your figures were implausible?
>
>
>> I am giving every chance to retract figures widely known. The Mustang is
>> rated at 205. 222-205 is 17. You have a 17hp advantage over a Mustang
>
> Seems that the 1993 Mustang 5.0 is rated at 205 hp ONLY because Ford
> changed its testing procedures. Under the older procedures, it still
> rates closer to 225 hp. That means that the Mustang has 3 hp more.
>
I'd like to hear a better explanatin of how you come to that
conclusion from the above data.
>
>> Big threat. You are KO'd by a Civic, acording to C+D
>
> Yeah, sure, in your wet dreams. And that's probably where you got
No, sorry your wrong again. *You* quoted the del Sol as doing 0-60 in
8.1 according to C+D. Interestingly, the Stealth ES, which is
*faster* than your RT does the samerun in 8.5 seconds according to
C+D. Kind of embarassing isn't it? Why didn't you check the figures
before posting? It only makes you look stupid when you are caught out
twice with *your own* figures.
> that 11.2 second 0-60 for the Stealth.
>
>
>>> I'll check C&D's 5/91 issue. Strange that you claim to have that
You really should have checked.
>>
>> Go ahead and check asshole, you'll realize what an idiot you are for not
>> checking data beforeposting. Car+ Drive, may 91. Stealth ES, 222hp,
>> automatic.
>
> For 3 posts now you've been harping on this May 1991 issue of Car & Driver
*2*
> without posting any numbers. Why not? Because they prove me right and you
> ain't got the guts to admit it? Yeah, thought so.
>
If you insist, I gave you every chance to retract, but:
Dodge Stealth ES Auto does an 8.5/16.4 - Wonder why you couldn't find it?
Do you realize that a 9k Sentra (C+D) will run a 16.7, that a Sentra SE-R or Saturn
will run in the 15's? Don't you think it is kind of strange that your
222hp sports car is so easily beaten.
A Mustang 5.0, which weights about the same (according to *your* numbers),
has less power and is much quicker? Care to explain. Don't be abusive,
just try and come up with a rational explanation of where those 222hp
went to, its a mystery to me.
>> The Sentra SE-R really is alot quicker than the 222hp FWD Sports car.
>> You are close to the 9k sentra-e. Go look up the numbers in C+D - and
>> report please.
>
> No, I'm going to play your game -
>
> No way, Sentra's are SLOW! I took a test drive and it took
> 21.7 to go 0-50! Why, even the Hyundai Excel blows it doors
I guess you drove a 5 speed and couldn't shift/
Craig
| 7rec.autos |
Does anyone have a file manager that runs under UNIX/X11R5??
brians
--
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Support Engineer \`o_O'
Atlas Telecom Inc. ( ) -Raiders of the Lost Ark
brians@atlastele.com U
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1r2g4oINNqa7@life.ai.mit.edu> Clinton-HQ@Campaign92.Org (The White House) writes:
>
> THE WHITE HOUSE
>
> Office of the Press Secretary
>______________________________________________________________
>For Immediate Release April 20, 1993
>
>
> REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT
> IN QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION WITH THE PRESS
>
>
>1:36 P.M. EDT
>
>
> THE PRESIDENT: On February the 28th, four federal
>agents were killed in the line of duty trying to enforce the law
>against the Branch Davidian compound, which had illegally stockpiled
>weaponry and ammunition, and placed innocent children at risk.
>Because the BATF operation had failed to meet its objective, a 51-day
>standoff ensued.
>
> The Federal Bureau of Investigation then made every
>reasonable effort to bring this perilous situation to an end without
>bloodshed and further loss of life. The Bureau's efforts were
>ultimately unavailing because the individual with whom they were
>dealing, David Koresh, was dangerous, irrational, and probably
>insane.
>
The Stacy Koon-Lawrence Powell defense! The decisions of Janet
Reno and Bill Clinton in this affair are essentially the moral
equivalents of Stacy Koon's. Reno and Clinton have the advantage
in that they investigate themselves.
Gerald
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Hi.
While running the MS Quick C compiler in a DOS window under Windows 3.1
this evening, I got a "program has violated system integrity... close all
applications, exit windows and restart your computer" error.
I started to do this when I immediately got a "Serious disk error" message
from Windows. "hit return to retry". I did that about 5 times and then
rebooted to find that quite a few files have been corrupted somehow.
(I am including the chkdsk output below.)
Questions:
1) Is there an easy way to restore everything to working order?
What might be some better approaches?
2) What might have caused this? Does the SMARTDRV cache make me more
vulnerable? (I'm suspicious of hard drive caches especially when they
cache data writing.)
The straightforward approach would be to run chkdsk with the /f option to
fix the disk and then it looks like I would probably have to reinstall Windows
and a few other things.
Thanks for your comments and suggestions.
Brad Banko
ps: this is a 386sx machine with a 40Mb hard drive and 2 Mb of RAM.
chkdsk output:
======================================================================
Volume Serial Number is 1159-09D3
Errors found, F parameter not specified
Corrections will not be written to disk
C:\GFX\VPIC46\CVPIC.EXE
Allocation error, size adjusted
C:\GFX\VPIC46\VPIC.TXT
Allocation error, size adjusted
C:\GFX\VPIC46\VIDEO7.CFG
Allocation error, size adjusted
C:\GFX\VPIC46\ORCPRO2.CFG
Allocation error, size adjusted
C:\GFX\VPIC46\VGA.CFG
Allocation error, size adjusted
C:\GAME\GOOSE\BIRD2.X
Allocation error, size adjusted
C:\WINMISC\ADV21\WINADV.EXE
Allocation error, size adjusted
316 lost allocation units found in 224 chains.
647168 bytes disk space would be freed
C:\GFX\VPIC46\CVPIC.EXE
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16133
C:\GFX\VPIC46\GENO5400.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16138
C:\GFX\VPIC46\TRI8800B.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16139
C:\GFX\VPIC46\TS4000HI.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16140
C:\GFX\VPIC46\CONFIG.DOC
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16141
C:\GFX\VPIC46\VPIC.TXT
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16146
C:\GFX\VPIC46\VIDEO7.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16151
C:\GFX\VPIC46\DEFINCON.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16152
C:\GFX\VPIC46\ATIWONDR.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16153
C:\GFX\VPIC46\GENO6400.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16154
C:\GFX\VPIC46\OAK.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16155
C:\GFX\VPIC46\HIRES.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16156
C:\GFX\VPIC46\AHEADA.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16157
C:\GFX\VPIC46\VPIC.DOC
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16208
C:\GFX\VPIC46\ORCPRO2.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16184
C:\GFX\VPIC46\EVERX673.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16185
C:\GFX\VPIC46\WAIT.COM
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16186
C:\GFX\VPIC46\MAXXON.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16187
C:\GFX\VPIC46\WAIT.DOC
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16188
C:\GFX\VPIC46\EVERX678.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16189
C:\GFX\VPIC46\EGA.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16190
C:\GFX\VPIC46\CONFIG.EXE
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16191
C:\GFX\VPIC46\README.1ST
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16199
C:\GFX\VPIC46\VGA.CFG
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16201
C:\GAME\GOOSE\BIRD2.X
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16382
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SOUND.DRV
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16380
C:\WINDOWS\GAMES0.GRP
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16367
C:\WINDOWS\MAD79-11.BMP
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16341
C:\MAGE\DEMO2_2A.KIN
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16151
C:\MAGE\DEMO2_2B.KIN
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16257
C:\MAGE\PKIN_2_2.EXE
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16339
C:\WINMISC\GAMES\DIALWORD.EXE
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16184
C:\WINMISC\GAMES\DIALWORD.TXT
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16201
C:\WINMISC\ADV21\WINADV.WRI
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16257
C:\WINMISC\ADV21\ADV.KEY
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16265
C:\WINMISC\ADV21\ADV.REC
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16275
C:\WINMISC\ADV21\FREEZER
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16339
C:\386SPART.PAR
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16133
C:\BNG2.MBX
Is cross linked on allocation unit 16146
42366976 bytes total disk space
3958784 bytes in 4 hidden files
153600 bytes in 67 directories
36042752 bytes in 1496 user files
1564672 bytes available on disk
2048 bytes in each allocation unit
20687 total allocation units on disk
764 available allocation units on disk
655360 total bytes memory
579712 bytes free
--
Brad Banko; Dept of Physics; U of Illinois; b-banko@uiuc.edu
=========================================================================
See one. Do one. Teach one. 73 de kb8cne @ n9lnq.il
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <shenoy.737772666@pv025f.vincent.iastate.edu> shenoy@iastate.edu (Shiva Shenoy) writes:
>In <1993May18.141451.3443@trintex.uucp> charles@tinman.dev.prodigy.com (Charles R. Emmons) writes:
>>[Description of file manager Info menu option.
>Edit the winfile.ini file. If there is a section [AddOns] in it, great! Else,
>add the following two lines. If the [AddOns] section exists, then just add
>the second line.
>[Addons]
>INfo=filesize.dll
Note that the filesize .dll is a part of the Windows Resource Kit. If
you install it (and you can download it from Cica), it will make the
appropriate changes itself.
kartik
--
If you quote my article remember to trim it down to the essentials.
Anant Kartik Mithal, akm@cs.uoregon.edu
Network Manager, Ph.D. Student (503)346-3989
Comp. Science, U of Oregon, Eugene, OR 97403 (503)346-5373 (fax)
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
We're about ready to take a bold step into the 90s around here by accelerating
our rather large collection of stock MacPlus computers. Yes indeed, difficult
to comprehend why anyone would want to accelerate a MacPlus, but that's another
story. Suffuce it to say, we can get accelerators easier than new machines.
Hey, I don't make the rules...
Anyway, on to the purpose of this post: I'm looking for info on MacPlus
acelerators. So far, I've found some lit on the Novy Accelerator and the
MicrMac MultiSpeed Accelartor. Both look acceptable, but I would like to hear
from anyone who has tried these. Also, if someone would recommend another
accelerator for the MacPlus, I'd like to hear about it.
Thanks for any time and effort you expend on this!
Karl
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
35002_4401@uwovax.uwo.ca writes:
>I need to know the Pins to connect to make a loopback connector for a serial
>port so I can build one. The loopback connector is used to test the
>serial port.
>
>Thanks for any help.
From a recent BYTE magazine i got the following:
[Question and part of the answer deleted]
If you are handy with a soldering iron, the loopback plugs are easy to
make. On a serial RS-232 nine-pin port, use a female DB-9 connector and
connect pins 1 to 7 to 8; 2 to 3; and 4 to 6 to 9. For serial RS-232
25-pin ports, you'll need a female DB-25 connector with pins 1 to 7;
2 to 3; 4 to 5 to 8; 6 to 11 to 20 to 22; 15 to 17 to 23; and 18 to 25
connected. To test a Centronics 25-pin parallel port, you'll need to
connect pins 1 to 13; 2 to 15; 10 to 16; 11 to 17; and 12 to 14 in a male
DB-25 connector.
-Stan Wszola
---
I haven't tried it. Use at own risk.
-KKC- etobkkc@hisoy.etn.ericsson.se
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1993Apr2.182402.28700@walter.bellcore.com>, deaddio@ski.bellcore.com (Michael DeAddio) writes:
|> |> The 'beam' is split in two, with one beam aimed at the target car (sort of) and
|> |> the other at the ground. The speeds of each are calulated for the final
|> |> number
|>
|> Actually, this is true on the more expensive ones, but the cheaper ones
|> just read the speedometer.
I've never seen a speedometer-reading model. Are you sure? Who makes
them? Consider the difficulty of reading the speedo on various makes
of cars in use... I've seen single beam moving-mode and split beam
moving-mode.
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| 12sci.electronics |
Is there aything available for X similar to QuicKeys for the Macintosh --
something that will allow me to store and playback sequences of keystrokes,
menu selections, and mouse actions - directing them towards another
application?
If so, could someone send me information on its availability -- and if not,
how hard do we think it might be to send input to other X applications and,
hopefully, deal with their responses appropriately? (If an application is
going to take a few seconds to process I probably have to wait for it to
complete before sending another command.)
thanks,
david,
| 5comp.windows.x |
Hi all,
I have a IIsi with a floppy drive that might be bad (and might just be out
of alignment, I haven't checked yet. :-)) If the drive is not easily
reparable, I'd like to replace it with an _internal_ floptical. Can this
be easily done? Can it be done at all?
I'm assuming that floptical drives can read and write both 800k and 1.4k
floppies. If this is not in fact true, please tell me.
Thanks in advance,
~ Kiran
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Hi Netters
I want to know if 13500 (w/o tax) is a good deal for 1993 Mazda 626 DX
How is the performance review so far on Mazda 626. Is it a good buy?
Please reply to me as I don't read this group often.
Thanks In advance
Ravi
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ravi@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com | the assimilation of facts but blow all
Motorola Codex, Boston MA | the money" - Ravi Puvvala
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| 6misc.forsale |
kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:
> ( I am almost sure that Zyklon-B is immediate and painless method of
> death. If not, insert soem other form. )
>
> And, ethnic and minority groups have been killed, mutilated and
> exterminated through out history, so I guess it was not unusual.
>
> So, you would agree that the holocost would be allowed under the US
> Constitution? [ in so far, the punishment. I doubt they recieved what would
> be considered a "fair" trial by US standards.
Don't be so sure. Look what happened to Japanese citizens in the US during
World War II. If you're prepared to say "Let's round these people up and
stick them in a concentration camp without trial", it's only a short step to
gassing them without trial. After all, it seems that the Nazis originally
only intended to imprison the Jews; the Final Solution was dreamt up partly
because they couldn't afford to run the camps because of the devastation
caused by Goering's Total War. Those who weren't gassed generally died of
malnutrition or disease.
mathew
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <1993Apr21.164554.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu>, parys@ccsua.ctstateu.edu writes:
> I told some friends of mine two weeks ago that Koresh was dead. The FBI and
> the BATF could not let a man like that live. He was a testimonial to their
> stupidity and lies.
>
[...deleted...]
Unfortunately, I think you've got it figured pretty well. I also ask
myself the question "Why did they plan for so many months. Why was
this so important to them? What was the government really up to?
Why did they seal the warrant? Were they after Koresh or were they after
the first and second amendments, among others?
>
> We waited 444 days for our hostages to come home from Iran. We gave these
> people 51 days.
>
--
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Joe Gaut | In the super-state, it really does not
<f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> | matter at all what actually happened.
Remember the Alamo | Truth is what the government chooses to
Remember Waco | tell you. Justice is what it wants to happen.
--Jim Garrison, New Orleans, La.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
|
| BIOLOGICAL ALCHEMY
|
| ( ANOTHER Form of COLD FUSION )
Gee, I'd FORGOTTEN about THIS NUT.
| UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this
| IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED.
| Robert E. McElwaine
| B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EC
And we KNOW (CAN PROVE) what B.S. stands for in this case.
| 13sci.med |
In article <C5LA55.Bwq@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gsh7w@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU
(Greg Hennessy) writes:
>Clayton Cramer writes:
>#Compared to the table I have already posted from Masters, Johnson,
>#and Kolodny showing male homosexual partners, it is apparent that
>#homosexual men are dramatically more promiscuous than the general
>#male population.
>
>Did you ever consider the selection effect that those who are willing
>to admit to being a member sexual minority (homosexuality) are more
>willing to admit to being a member of another sexual minority (highly
>promiscious)?
>
Oh yeah, and men just haaaaate to brag about "how many woman they've had."
Ryan
| 18talk.politics.misc |
For those that are interested I got my fully optioned (Air, ABS,
sunroof) '92 SE-R in September 1991 for $13,555 in Sacramento, CA. It
was one of the 1st '92s sold, few of the dealers had any, no local
dealer had an ABS equipped SE-R. I went straight to the fleet manager
at the dealership I liked, told him what I wanted, made him aware that I
knew what his price should be. He called me back with exactly what I
wanted from a dealer 125mi away, I took delivery the next day.
| 7rec.autos |
I have the 660Mb SCSI-1 disk drive currently used for my Mac
but it can be use for PC also. In good condition , rarely use and
no bad track, 5.25" Full high, fast and quiet for sale $650 plus
shipping (out of SF bay area). And here's spec.:
Model 97548 made by HP,790Mb(Unformatted), seek time 16.5 ms
average,150,000 hours MTBF, 16 heads.
If you're interest please drop me a email.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
banschbach@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (Marty Banschbach) writes:
[...]
B > Medicine has not, and probalby never will be, practiced this way. There
B > has always been the use of conventional wisdom. A very good example is
B > kidney stones. Conventional wisdom(because clinical trails have not been
B > done to come up with an effective prevention), was that restricitng the
B > intake of calcium and oxalates was the best way to prevent kidney stones
B > from forming. Clinical trials focused on drugs or ultrasonic blasts to
B > breakdown the stone once it formed. Through the recent New England J of
B > Medicine article, we now know that conventional wisdom was wrong,
B > increasing calcium intake is better at preventing stone formation than is
B > restricting calcium intake.
[...]
B > Marty B.
Marty, I personally wouldn't be so quick and take that NEJM article
on kidney stones as gospel. First of all, I would want to know who
sponsored that study.
I have seen too many "nutrition" bulletins over the years from
local newspapers, magazines, to TV-guide, with disclaimers on the
bottom informing us that this great health news was brought to us
compliments of the Dairy Industries.
There are of course numerous other interest groups now that thrive
financially on the media hype created from the supposedly enormous
benefits of increasing one's calcium intake.
Secondly, were ALL the kidney stones of the test subjects involved
in that project analysed for their chemical composition? The study
didn't say that, it only claimed that "most kidney stones are large-
ly calcium."
Perhaps it won't be long before another study comes up with the exact
opposite findings. A curious phenomenon with researchers is that they
are oftentimes just plain wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.
Sodium/magnesium/calcium/phosphorus ratios are, in my opinion, still
the most reliable indicators for the cause, treatment, and prevention
of kidney stones.
I, for one, will continue to recommend the most logical changes in
one's diet or through supplementation to counteract or prevent kidney
stones of either type; and they definitely won't include an INCREASE
in calcium if the stones have been identified as being of the calcium
type and people's chemical analysis confirms that they would benefit
from a PHOSPHORUS-raising approach instead!
Ron Roth
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| 13sci.med |
Announcing xmgr (ACE/gr, Motif version) v2.10
Xmgr is a full-featured XY-plotting tool for UNIX workstations
using X or OpenWindows. There is an XView version called xvgr for
Suns. Collectively, these 2 tools are known as ACE/gr. Compiling
xmgr requires the Motif toolkit version 1.1 and X11R4 - xmgr will
not compile under X11R3/Motif 1.0x. X11R5+Motif 1.2 should work
fine, but I've not been able to test this.
For a summary of xmgr's capabilities, get the file BLURB from
either site mentioned below.
Available via anonymous ftp to either:
ftp.ccalmr.ogi.edu:/CCALMR/pub/acegr/xmgr-2.10.tar.Z
or
export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/acegr/xmgr-2.10.tar.Z
Please remember to set the transfer type to binary.
I am not able to E-mail xmgr, but there are services provided
by various Internet sites that allow ftp by mail. You might try
sending mail to ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com as follows:
Subject: (hit return) Body-of-letter: help (return) quit
I've not tried this, but it should give you instructions on how
to use this service.
2.10 has been compiled and tested on:
IBM RS6000 - AIX 3.2 X11R4/Motif 1.1
DECstation - Ultrix 4.2a X11R4/Motif 1.1
SGI Indigo - Irix 4.0.1 X11R4/Motif 1.1
Sun SPARC - SunOS 4.1.1 X11R4/Motif 1.1
HP 720 - HP-UX 8.05 X11R4/Motif 1.1
Compiling with gcc should be no problem, but use settings
appropriate for K&R C.
Of interest:
In light of recent announcements (COSE), I'm suspending further
development of the XView version. For those without Motif on
SUNs, I'll provide a compiled binary (eventually).
I've begun re-writing ACE/gr in C++, the initial target is
MS-Windows.
Improvements/fixes from 2.09 are:
* The explicit placement of items in popups has been replaced
with manager widgets. The previous method led to problems
on some servers (all widgets in a popup would get scrunched
into the upper left corner).
* Many set operations can now be done in the File/Status popup.
* The PostScript driver should do a better job of producing
EPSF'able output.
A few things remain to do (I could use some ideas/help on these):
1. Replace the Hershey fonts used for on-screen text with the
xvertext routines posted to the net by Alan Richardson.
The problem here is how to include support for this in the
user interface.
2. Add support for Adobe Font Metrics. I could use some PD or freely
distributable routines for this.
3. Add support for pattern fills in the PostScript driver. Presently
the only way to get hardcopy for fills is to import MIF into
FrameMaker. Need PS routines for pattern fills.
4. Add support for HDF/NetCDF. I'm interested in your opinion on
how one would write a generic reader for these file formats.
--Paul
Paul J Turner - pturner@amb4.ccalmr.ogi.edu
Center for Coastal and Land-Margin Research
Oregon Graduate Institute
Beaverton, OR 97006-1999
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1rr6c3$9u3@calvin.NYU.EDU>, roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
|> What's really interesting is that from what I can tell, the MIS
|>folks in the basement with their ES/9000 don't seem to be pissed at IBM.
|>Why? I have no idea. Either IBM really does take care of their customers
|>better, or they just have their customers brainwashed better than the
|>smaller vendors do.
No, MIS folks have infinite budgets of death, and they also get parts
of their budget allocated "upgrades", "maintenance", and "new purchases",
and a lot of IBM mainframe purchases are actually "leases" and so
is the software.
Basically, the engineers who have tight budgets, i.e. the coders and
designers of a company, bitch and moan when they drop 15,000 on a
Sparc 1 only to see a faster machine appear a year later. MIS types
upgrade once every 5-10 years, and their costs are amortized and
depreciated over a longer period, and the budget office justifies
the expense because they actually use the machines for accounting,
payroll, etc.
Now, if the budget office was dependant on the engineers for some
reason like payroll and accounts, you'd sure as hell see every
engineer with a new Cray on his desktop every year. :-)
Brian
| 1comp.graphics |
The Christian Reformed Church does not allow people to belong to lodges,
the Reformed Church in America does. The conservatives in both churches
are very similar, as are the "progressives". The RCA currently ordains
women; the CRC is fighting over the issue.
A significant fraction of both churches live in western Michigan. (FYI,
I went to the CRC school Calvin College.)
Dan
| 15soc.religion.christian |
Is clear coat really worth it? Yes, on the showroom floor, the cars
have this deep, lustrous shine that just can't be found on paint jobs
that aren't clear coated. On the other hand, it seems that every clear
coated car that I've seen on the road (in a parking lot, etc.) has
fine scratches throughout the paint job. As does, alas, my 1992 Laser.
Several weeks ago I had my car professionally polished and waxed.
When I picked it up, it had that same showroom shine that I remember
from a year ago when I bought it. Several days ago I took my car
to the dealership for some work. As an added bonus, they washed my
car. Unfortunately, whoever washed it either didn't get the roof
(which is black, the rest of the car is red) completely clean before
he dried it, or he used a dirty towel. Now my showroom shine is a
haze of fine scratches that aren't really visible until the light
hits the roof at a particular angle.
I am, to put it mildy, somewhat peeved about this. Do I have any
chance of getting the dealership to do something about this?
My guess is 'no'. Is there any product on the market that provides
a solution to this problem? Or am I faced with the prospect of
having the car professionally polished again to hide the scratches?
Information, commiseration, and sympathy all greatly appreciated . . .
Scott "the-dealership-will-never-wash-my-car-again" Borders
sborders@nyx.cs.du.edu
borders_scott@tandem.com
| 7rec.autos |
ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca) writes:
: Consequently,
: this verse indicates that she was without sin. Also, as was observed at
: the very top of this post, Mary had to be free from sin in order to be the
: mother of Jesus, who was definitely without sin.
If the mother of Jesus had to be without sin in order to give
birth to God, then why didn't Mary's mother have to be without
sin in order to give birth to the perfect vessel for Jesus? For
that matter, why didn't Mary's grandmother have to be without sin
either? Seems to me that with all the original sin flowing
through each person, the need for the last one (Mary) to have
none puts God in a box, where we say that He couldn't have
incarnated Himself through a normal human being.
My God is an all powerful God, Who can do whatever suits His
purpose. This includes creating a solar system and planet earth
with the appearance of great age; providing a path through the
Red Sea for the children of Israel that does not depend on the
existence of a ridge of high ground and a wind blowing at the
right speed and direction; and the birth of Himself from a normal
sinful person without being tainted by her original sin.
I see far too much focus on the "objects" of religion and not
nearly enough on the personal relationship that is available to
all believers with the Author of our existence, without the
necessity of having this relationship channeled through conduits
to God in the form of Mary, Apostles and a Pope.
: Note that the idea of Mary being conceived without Original Sin, i.e. the
: Immaculate Conception, is distinct from the idea of Mary not having sinned
: during her lifetime, which is a separate doctrine and, I believe, also
: held by the Catholic Church.
If Mary was born without original sin, and didn't sin during her
lifetime, how is she any different from Jesus? This means the
world has had two perfect humans: one died to take away the sins
of the world; the other gave birth to Him? I would certainly
want to see some scriptural support for this before I would start
praying to anyone other than God. Everything I have ever read
from the bible teaches me that Jesus was and is the only sinless
Lamb of God, not His mother, grandmother........
: Hope this is useful to you.
Very useful in helping me understand some of the RC beliefs.
Thank you.
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| 15soc.religion.christian |
Marc Thibault (marc@tanda.isis.org) writes:
> (The Jester) writes:
> > Proof Windows is a Virus:It is very widespread, It eats up your disk
> > space, It slows down your computer, It takes control over your
> > computer, It performs disk access at random times, It displays silly
> > messages on your screen, It randomly crashes the computer-Vesselin
> This sounds like a version Unix. Solaris?
as someone who just lived through a switch from SunOS4.x.x. to
Solaris, i'll heartily agree with this.
ObCrypt: one of my main gripes with Solaris is its braindead mailx,
which is -almost- enough like mail to get you hoping, but crashes
horribly when you try to do anything useful with it. (like use pgp-
capable sendmail replacements.)
jason
--
"I stood up on my van. I yelled, `Excuse me, sir. Ain't nothing wrong
with this country that a few plastic explosives won't cure!'"
- Steve Taylor, I Blew Up the Clinic Real Good
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| 11sci.crypt |
I have an SE/30 with a 80 meg HD which dates back to April 1989. When I
originally purchased it, I experienced the failure to boot problem. This
was fixed soon after by a ROM upgrade on the hard drive.
Lately a similar problem has been occuring. When the computer is
powered on the HD light flashes a few times and then I am given
the "no disk to boot from" icon. However, upon turing the
computer off and on again the drive ALWAYS boots up just fine.
Furthermore, if instead of turning the power on and off I press the reboot
button the same problem occurs. But, as I said, turning the power
off and on always works.
This problem is different from the 1989 boot problem in that before
it often required several power off and ons to get it to boot.
Does anybody have any suggestions as to what the problem is or how
it can be fixed?
I'm wondering if it's getting old and requires more time to
"come up to speed" now. Is there a PRAM or SCSI setting that
allows me to tell the computer to wait a little longer before
trying to access the HD?
Thanks!
Altan J. Stalker
astalker@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu
Indiana University
Computer Science Dept.
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Sigha.
1) Trying to figure out a way to put a halogen beam on my CB360T... Are
there any easy ways to do this (i.e. a "slip-in" bulb replacement)?
2) Was told by a guy at the bike shop that my "not damn near bright enough"
incandescent beam might be caused by a perma-low battery. So I went and
picked up this cheapo "Motorcycle battery and charging system tester"...
Hook it up to the battery, it's got 3 lights on "Very good charge"... Start
the engine (to test the charging system), and it doesn't even REGISTER. It's
supposed to light 5 or 6 lights if everything is OK, but it stays down at
the same point as just the battery.
My question here is, if indeed my charging system is just plain messed up,
how the HECK is the battery staying fully charged? I'd think it would be
darned near dead from supporting my lights, etc...
Do the '75 CB360T's have a problem with their charging system? Are they
just generally slower charging than what is normal for bigger bikes?
Is there an easy fix for this?
3) Happy noise: Put 300 miles on my bike this weekend, finally got myass an
endorsement.... which is REALLY GOOD, because my cage just quit running
worth a damn and I won't have money to repair it until the first... ;) And
the weatherman says "Bright and Sunny all week, 20% chance of rain on
friday"...
<big grin, bugs in teeth>
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <C76G9J.6pK@cs.uiuc.edu> ioerger@sophocles.cs.uiuc.edu (Thomas Ioerger) writes:
>So I think there are 2 possibilities:
>
> 1) I'm right. If my disk really crashes, I would at least have to
> re-install DOS and Windows to get the backup program working.
Using the software you're using, I agree with you there. What I did:
I installed DOS, Windows and CPBackup (functionally the same
as your Norton, for the purposes of this discussion), and used the
DOS "backup" command on just that much. To restore, I boot to the
"system" diskette, and use DOS "restore" to read in that much, then
boot to windows and restore my full backups using CPB (Norton, in your
case), overwriting what I've just restored. That allows me to keep
this skeletal Windows essentially unchanged, with all my customization
on the "real" copy done using the 3rd-party backup utility.
> 2) I'm wrong. There is an easy way to make a "mirror" of a hard disk
> that can easily restore it's state from scratch.
Seems possible, if you can put skeletal versions of DOS and your backup
utility on a "system" floppy. Then you could restore it all on one "go".
--
= Martin Lodahl Systems Analyst, Capacity Planning, Pacific*Bell =
= malodah@pacbell.com Sacramento, CA USA 916.972.4821 =
= If it's good for ancient Druids runnin' nekkid through the wuids, =
= Drinkin' strange fermented fluids, it's good enough for me! (Unk.) =
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
From article by ece_0028@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (David Anderson):
> In article mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:
>>frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
>>> (Peter Walker) writes:
>>>
>>> #What I do know is that I can observe phenomena, creAte a theory that
>>> #explains new phenomena, observe these new phenomena.
>>>
>>> Prove that you can observe phenomena, Lord.
>>
>>Prove that you exist, Frank.
>
> Cogito, ergo sum. :)
Cogito, ergo spud.
I think, therefore I yam.
:-D
kyuk kyuk kyuk
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Hi netters,
Quantum LPS 240AT harddisk forsale.
3.5" frame, 1/3 height.
IDE format, master or slave
723 cyl 13 hd 51 s/t = 234.9 real megs
Access time of 16 ms.
256K cache on the drive
Asking $300.
email me: jakers@uhunix3.uhcc.hawaii.edu
| 6misc.forsale |
Reading all you folks things to do to illegally parked cars made me
wonder who's going to carry cinder blocks on a bike(?!?!?) or is
ready to do serious damage (key carvings etc.) to a cage. Then I
had an idea--chain lube isn't just for chain's anymore!!! It seems
more reasonable to me, no permanent damage but lots of work to get
off! (Don't ask me how I know :) Use it anywhere, the windshield,
the door handles, in the keyhole, etc. What a nasty mood I'm in.
It's raining again...
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| 8rec.motorcycles |
cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>
># #The median number of sexual partners for all men 20-39 was 7.3.
>#
># Don't forget that 25% had 20 or more partners....
>
>Not surprising. Remember, that study includes homosexuals as well.
...which would make the number 15%, right Clayton?
--
Jamie McCarthy Internet: k044477@kzoo.edu AppleLink: j.mccarthy
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In <EGGERTJ.93May9230207@moses.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@moses.ll.mit.edu
(Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:
>It is important to note that there remains at least one mosque in the
>Jewish quarter of the Old City, at least according to my map. You
>might be able to find it just north of the Hurva synagogue. Is this
>mosque really still there? Was this mosque built by "squatters" too?
When I was in Jerusalem a couple of years ago, our guide told
us the story of that mosque - not sure if it was true.
Apparently, it was built by a Jewish convert to Islam. He had
had a dispute with his neighbours, and built the mosque "davka" to
annoy them. It's a cute story, but not sure if it's true...
--
David F. Skoll
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
> What's the difference between a 16550 UART and a 16550A UART? Thanks!
BUGS!!!!!
16550 (without the A) would sometimes get extra characters in the FIFO.
This renders the FIFO useless. Only get the 16550A.
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1993Apr27.152314.28798@donau.et.tudelft.nl> ferry@dutentb.et.tudelft.nl (Ferry Toth) writes:
>Subject: **** And now serious: E-Magazine *****
>Summary: How about starting a group where scientific articles can be pre-publish
>Keywords: Scientific papers, Electronic magazine
>
>For some time I've been thinking about the possibility of starting a group
>where scientific articles can be published (or perhaps just summaries).
>Possible advantages would be:
>* Free distribution
>* Fast acceptance
>* Online discussion between authors and readers
>
>This would be possible with one group with a moderator for publishing the
>articles and one perhaps without for discussion.
I think its a great, but idealistic idea. A reseacher will first of all try
to publish a worthy paper in a credible, professional magazine and not in a
community like USENET which is infamous for lots (not all) of junk
information. The papers that will be "published" here will, in general, be
of low quality. Also, it is improbable that any credit will be given to a
researcher who publish here - and sadly, that is nowadays a main reason for
publishing.
USENET is great for informal discussions and free exchange of ideas - keep
it like that. A new, specialist group is just not worth it.
- gerrit
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <C5u5u5.Gw@apollo.hp.com> nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
>In article <2003@tecsun1.tec.army.mil> riggs@descartes.etl.army.mil (Bill Riggs) writes:
>
>> One thing that should be made clear is that neither the FBI nor
>>the BATF is responsible for what happened yesterday. One can argue about
>>the initial raid, but it would be worth mentioning, before the facts get
>>lost, that
>>
>> 1. The Branch Davidians were tipped off that the BATF was coming
>> during the initial raid.
>>
>> 2. The Branch Davidians opened fire first.
>
>
> See, this is what really bugs me about this whole incident, and
> also about Usenet: Here we are almost two months after the original
> raid, a raid witnessed by several members of the press, and there is
> STILL no agreement about the basic facts. Riggs, here, and others,
> are claiming that the BD's shot first, while others on the net claim
> that the feds did, in the form of concussion grenades.
>
> I suggest that before ANY of you make any claims about who shot
> first, you DOCUMENT your claim with actual evidence, and not just
> FOAF or "he said / she said". Otherwise don't use words like
> "fact" above - it just makes you all look stupid.
Perhaps I don't get my news from the right sources. Reading
the Washington Post practically every day, I had considered the "facts"
I stated above to be a matter of public record, and hardly in dispute.
So, if "others on the net" - and in the rest of the media as well, are
claiming something else, I'll be glad to entertain such claims in an
open-minded manner. To date, this is the first I've seen of any claim
that the BATF used ANY weapons BEFORE the Branch Davidians opened
fire on them. So - please - enlighten me.
Bill R.
--
"The only proposals in the Senate that I "My opinions do not represent
have seen fit to mention are particularly those of my employer or
praiseworthy or particularly scandalous ones. any government agency."
It seems to me that the historian's foremost - Bill Riggs
duty is to ensure that virtue is remembered,
and to deter evil words and deeds with the
fear of posterity's damnation."
- Tacitus, _Annals_ III. 65
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Hello, I am about to embark on a bible study on ACTS. I have online
bible software with me. I would like to know the the background of the
authors of its various topics articles and about the author of the
People's New Testament. I need to know how realible is the articles in
the Online Bible software. Specifically (for your convenience) I want to
know about the :
1. Darby Translation ( I have never heard of this one)
2. Young's Literal Translation (I have also never heard
of)
3. The realiability of the Hebrew/Greek Lexicon
4. The authors (from which denomination etc) of the
articles in the TOPICS modules.
5. The realiability of the Treasury of Scripture
Knowlege ( as I have never heard of too)
6. Who are the commentators, Scofield and B.W. Johnson
who wrote the Scofield Reference Bible and the People's New Testament respectively
7. The realiability of the Strong numbers.
I will be most happy to receive a reply of any of you who knows about
the above. Also, please 'qualify' yourself so that I may know that I am
not receiving a 'rubbish' letter. I just want to make sure.
Wilfred Ling
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| 15soc.religion.christian |
Anyone,
I am a serious motorcycle enthusiast without a motorcycle, and to
put it bluntly, it sucks. I really would like some advice on what would
be a good starter bike for me. I do know one thing however, I need to
make my first bike a good one, because buying a second any time soon is
out of the question. I am specifically interested in racing bikes, (CBR
600 F2, GSX-R 750). I know that this may sound kind of crazy
considering that I've never had a bike before, but I am responsible, a
fast learner, and in love. Please give me any advice that you think
would help me in my search, including places to look or even specific
bikes that you want to sell me.
Thanks :-)
Jamie Belliveau (jbc9@andrew.cmu.edu)
| 8rec.motorcycles |
I've started getting a message from Windows 3.1 whenever I try to execute
a DOS program from Windows, either thru the Program Manager or the File
Manager. A message box comes up and says "This program or one of its
components is compressed. Use the MS-DOS expand command to expand the
file."
Now, I know this is bogus, because I can always execute the program
from DOS when not running windows. The program in question is COMMAND.COM
(yup, the basic DOS command line shell...) And, the expand command tells
me that the file is already expanded.
All my windows apps work just fine - I only get this message when trying
to execute a DOS program from Windows.
Clues anyone? Thanks!! Christopher Wroten, cfw@world.std.com
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1993Apr03.232325.23178@acme.gen.nz> kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
>bena@dec07.cs.monash.edu.au (Ben Aveling) writes:
>
>> Warning - if you are anything like a devout Christian this post is
>> really going to offend and/or upset you.
>
>[...numerous Ctrl-Ls deleted...hehehe...]
>
>> I assume everyone here is familiar with the Christian `fish' symbol.
>> The one on the back of all those Volvos.
>> The one that looks (something) like
>> __
>> / \/
>> \__/\
>>
>> Or perhaps more like () ?
>> '`
>>
>> Well, I found out this morning where it comes from ...
>>
>> It's been stolen from the pagans, like so much else ...
>>
>> (Last last chance to be blisfully ignorant ;-]
>>
>> Hmm, how can I put it.
>>
>> Well, it comes from, this ...
>>
>>
>>
>> __
>> \/
>> ()
>> `__-'`-__'
>>
>>
>>
>> Sigh, I hate drawing with ascii chars.
>> Still, I think you can work it out from there ...
>
>If you haven't, go read "Skinny Legs and All" by Tom Robbins. If he's even
>50% accurate then most of the modern religions have been "appropriated".
>It's also a great book.
>
>Followups to alt.atheism, whose readers are probably slightly more authorative
>on this.
>
> - k
>--
>Craig Harding kilroy@acme.gen.nz ACME BBS +64 6 3551342
>"Jub'er lbh pnyyvat n obmb?"
Craig-
I thought it was derived from a Greek acronym. My Greek isn't up to much, but
it goes something like this:
Jesus Christ, God => Iesus CHristos, THeos => Ichthos
which is the Greek for "fish" (as in, eg "ichthysaurus").
Apologies for my dreadful Greek! Perhaps someone will correct it.
By the way, what does your sig mean?
-Norman
| 0alt.atheism |
[reply to jimh@carson.u.washington.edu (James Hogan)]
>So, what's someone with a prediliction to shit-shoveling to do when the
>latest "I know what you atheists are about" arrival on a.a. shows up?
>Ignore the Bills, Bobbys, Bakes? Try to engage in reasonable discourse?
>While flame-fests have been among some of the most entertaining threads
>here, other tugs-of-war with folks like Bobby have grown old before
>their time.
I take the view that they are here for our entertainment. When they are
no longer entertaining, into the kill file they go.
David Nye (nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu). Midelfort Clinic, Eau Claire WI
This is patently absurd; but whoever wishes to become a philosopher
must learn not to be frightened by absurdities. -- Bertrand Russell
| 0alt.atheism |
Does anybody know the FTP site with the latest Windows drivers for the ATI
GUP?
Thanks
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
As the subject says - Can I use a 4052 for digital signals? I don't see
why it couldn't handle digital signals, but I could be wrong. Anyone have
any advice? Thanks.
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| 12sci.electronics |
ritterbus001@wcsub.ctstateu.edu writes:
>If you want to buy one, try Radio Shack, or else a TV repair shop can
>probably order one. BTW - the carrier frequency is 40 KHz, and each
>different TV/VCR/cable box/stereo manufacturer uses a unique pulse
>scheme to perform each different function on their equipment.
Some TV's, including my RCA set at home, uses simple carriers
which I think run between 32 and 36 or 38 KHz. There is no tone decoding
in it. All one has to do to piss the thing off :-) is just hook an
IRLED up to a variable oscillator and tune through. Wreaks all kinds
of havoc. :-)
Similarly, my VCR remote changes channels on my cable box. Always
seems to change the cable box to channel 5 when you do the pause/play.
SOOOO, some things do have some overlap to them.
Duane
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1r20avINNb6q@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM>, bobn@hawkwind.central.Sun.COM (Bob Netherton) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr20.013653.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>, dhart@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
|> |>
|> |>
|> |> Hey...I've noticed that Luis Alicea is starting at 2nd for the Cardinals
|> |> instead of Geronimo Pena. Is Pena hurt, or was he just benched for poor
|> |> performance? Anyone know?
|>
|> After a quick start, Pena has been stuck in a rut. Torre gave Alicea
|> the start to try to get Pena out of whatever funk he is in. It has
|> worked in the past.
|>
And it has worked again. Pena went 3 for 3 last night against Colorado.
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| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <23321@mindlink.bc.ca> Sean_Oliver@mindlink.bc.ca (Sean Oliver) writes:
>> Joseph Mich Krzeszewsk writes:
>> 890 the phone company will read the number of the phone you are on
>
>Where I live, I use BCTEL. The number to dial is 211 for the same result.
>
In NY City, the number to dial is 958... It seems to be different in different
areas.
Anders
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1993Apr18.051439.5942@urartu.sdpa.org> hla@urartu.sdpa.org writes:
>I want this discussion to take place in English, because it is only after
Let's face it, if the words don't get into your noggin in the first place,
there's no hope. Now tell us, 'SDPA.ORG', a mouthpiece of the fascist x-Soviet
Armenian Government: what was your role in the murder of Orhan Gunduz and
Kemal Arikan? How many more Muslims will be slaughtered by 'SDPA.ORG' as
publicly declared and filed with the legal authorities?
"...that more people have to die..."
SDPA <91@urartu.UUCP>
"Yes, I stated this and stand by it."
SDPA <255@urartu.UUCP>
January 28, 1982 - Los Angeles
Kemal Arikan is slaughtered by two Armenians while driving to work.
March 22, 1982 - Cambridge, Massachusetts
Prelude to grisly murder. A gift and import shop belonging to
Orhan Gunduz is blown up. Gunduz receives an ultimatum: Either
he gives up his honorary position or he will be "executed". He
refuses. "Responsibility" is claimed by JCAG and SDPA.
May 4, 1982 - Cambridge, Massachusetts
Orhan Gunduz, the Turkish honorary consul in Boston, would not bow
to the Armenian terrorist ultimatum that he give up his title of
"honorary consul". Now he is attacked and murdered in cold blood.
President Reagan orders an all-out manhunt-to no avail. An eye-
witness who gave a description of the murderer is shot down. He
survives... but falls silent. One of the most revolting "triumphs" in
the senseless, mindless history of Armenian terrorism. Such a murder
brings absolutely nothing - except an ego boost for the murderer
within the Armenian terrorist underworld, which is already wallowing
in self-satisfaction.
Were you involved in the murder of Sarik Ariyak?
December 17, 1980 - Sydney
Two Nazi Armenians massacre Sarik Ariyak and his bodyguard, Engin
Sever. JCAG and SDPA claim responsibility.
Source: Edward K. Boghosian, "Radical Group Hosts Well-Attended Solidarity
Meeting," The Armenian Reporter, May 1, 1986, pp. 1 & 18.
ATHENS, Greece - An array of representatives of Greek political parties,
including the ruling PASOK party, and a host of political groups, both
Armenian and non-Armenian, joined to voice their solidarity with the
Armenian people in their pursuit of their cause and activities of a new
Armenian political force were voiced here on Sunday, April 20 during
the 2nd International Meeting of Solidarity with the Armenian People. And
judging from encouraging messages offered by the representatives of these
political groups and organizations, at least here in Greece, the Armenian
Cause enjoys abundant support from a wide spectrum of the political world.
The International Meeting of Solidarity was sponsored by the Greek branch of
the Armenian Popular Movement, a comparatively new political force headed
by younger generations of Armenians, who openly profess their support of the
armed struggle and of the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia
(ASALA). The organization has branches in various European and Middle Eastern
countries and the United States although some of these branches appear to
have gone through a switch of loyalties because of the split within the ranks
of ASALA...
Voicing the support of PASOK, the ruling party in Greece, to the Armenian
people, was Mr. Charalambidi Michalis, a member of the Central Committee of
the party and the Greek member of the Permanent People's Tribunal...
Explaining the goals and aspirations of the Armenian Popular Movement
was Ara Sarkisian. Significant was the address delivered by Mr. Bassam
Abu-Salim, on behalf of the Popular Front for the movement's continued
support of the Armenians' armed struggle in their pursuit of their cause,
pledging that Palestinian operated and run training camps would always be
open to Armenian youth who need training for such a struggle. Later, Mr.
Abu-Salim, answering a question put to him by this writer, affirmed that
his organization had always trained Armenian members of ASALA and that
this policy will continue. "The doors of our camps are always open to
Armenian freedom fighters," he affirmed.
Among the prominent Greek politicians who attended the conference was the son
of Prime Minister Papandreou, who himself holds a post in the Greek cabinet;
two members of the Cypriot Parliament who had journeyed to Athens for the
specific purpose of attending the international gathering; representatives of
the Christian Democratic party, EDIK Center party, two wings of the Communist
party, representatives of an assortment of labor unions and trade associations,
a number of mayors of Greek towns and cities; two Greek members of the
European Parliament and other members of the Greek Parliament were also among
those who participated in the international conference. Also on hand to follow
the deliberations was the ambassador of Bulgaria in Athens.
More than significant was the large number of messages received by the
organizers, including the following: Palestinian National Revolutionary
Movement, Fatah; Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General
Command; the Central Committee of the Palestinian National Liberation
Movement-Fatah; the Socialist Progressive Party of Lebanon; Arab Socialist
Labor Party; the Kurdistan Democratic Union of Iraq; and numerous other
international groups, all noted for their radical stand in the Israeli-
Palestinian conflict.
SUPPORT FROM ARF-RM
Among messages received from Armenian groups was the Armenian Revolutionary
Federation-Revolutionary Movement, the group that has claimed the abduction
and assassination of key party leaders in Lebanon accused of selling out to
foreign interests and powers. The message clearly gave its support to the
Armenian Popular Movement pledging that the Revolutionary movement will
continue to "reveal the realities, no matter how bitter or tragic they are,"
to expose the anti-Armenian activities of the leaders of the Dashnag "Bureau."
The message was taken as an indication of the link, loose as it may be, that
exists between the dissident Dashnag group and the Armenian Popular Movement,
open supporters of ASALA and armed struggle.
The Armenian Popular Movement has set up its headquarters in a suburb of the
Greek capital, known as Neos Kosmos, where there is a large Armenian presence.
The headquarters are located in a two-story building, which appears to have
turned into a beehive of activity on the part of scores of Armenian youth, who
prefer to give their first names only when invited to introduce themselves...
Now any comment?
#From: vd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Vedat Dogan)
#Subject: Re:Addressing.....
#Message-ID: <1993Apr8.233029.29094@news.columbia.edu>
In article <1993Apr7.225058.12073@urartu.sdpa.org> dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian) writes:
>In article <1993Apr7.030636.7473@news.columbia.edu> vd8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
>(Vedat Dogan) wrote in response to article <1993Mar31.141308.28476@urartu.
>11sdpa.org> dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian) writes:
>
>[(*] Source: "Adventures in the Near East, 1918-1922" by A. Rawlinson,
>[(*] Jonathan Cape, 30 Bedford Square, London, 1934 (First published 1923)
>[(*] (287 pages).
>
>[DD] Such a pile of garbage! First off, the above reference was first published
>[DD] in 1924 NOT 1923, and has 353 pages NOT 287! Second, upon checking page
>[DD] 178, we are asked to believe:
>
>[VD] No, Mr.Davidian ...
>
>[VD] It was first published IN 1923 (I have the book on my desk,now!)
>[VD] ********
>
>[VD] and furthermore,the book I have does not have 353 pages either, as you
>[VD] claimed, Mr.Davidian..It has 377 pages..Any question?..
>
>Well, it seems YOUR book has its total page numbers closer to mine than the
n>crap posted by Mr. [(*]!
o boy!
Please, can you tell us why those quotes are "crap"?..because you do not
like them!!!...because they really exist...why?
As I said in my previous posting, those quotes exactly exist in the source
given by Serdar Argic ..
You couldn't reject it...
>
>In addition, the Author's Preface was written on January 15, 1923, BUT THE BOOK
>was published in 1924.
Here we go again..
In the book I have, both the front page and the Author's preface give
the same year: 1923 and 15 January, 1923, respectively!
(Anyone can check it at her/his library,if not, I can send you the copies of
pages, please ask by sct)
I really don't care what year it was first published(1923 or 1924)
What I care about is what the book writes about murders, tortures,et..in
the given quotes by Serdar Argic, and your denial of these quotes..and your
groundless accussations, etc.
>
[...]
>
>[DD] I can provide .gif postings if required to verify my claim!
>
>[VD] what is new?
>
>I will post a .gif file, but I am not going go through the effort to show there
>is some Turkish modified re-publication of the book, like last time!
I claim I have a book in my hand published in 1923(first publication)
and it exactly has the same quoted info as the book published
in 1934(Serdar Argic's Reference) has..You couldn't reject it..but, now you
are avoiding the real issues by twisting around..
Let's see how you lie!..(from 'non-existing' quotes to re-publication)
First you said there was no such a quote in the given reference..You
called Serdar Argic a liar!..
I said to you, NO, MR.Davidian, there exactly existed such a quote...
(I even gave the call number, page numbers..you could't reject it.)
And now, you are lying again and talking about "modified,re-published book"
(without any proof :how, when, where, by whom, etc..)..
(by the way, how is it possible to re-publish the book in 1923 if it was
first published in 1924(your claim).I am sure that you have some 'pretty
well suited theories', as usual)
And I am ready to send the copies of the necessary pages to anybody who
wants to compare the fact and Mr.Davidian's lies...I also give the call number
and page numbers again for the library use, which are:
949.6 R 198
and the page numbers to verify the quotes:218 and 215
>
>It is not possible that [(*]'s text has 287 pages, mine has 353, and yours has
>377!
Now, are you claiming that there can't be such a reference by saying "it is
not possible..." ..If not, what is your point?
Differences in the number of pages?
Mine was published in 1923..Serdar Argic's was in 1934..
No need to use the same book size and the same letter
charachter in both publications,etc, etc.. does it give you an idea!!
The issue was not the number of pages the book has..or the year
first published..
And you tried to hide the whole point..
the point is that both books have the exactly the same quotes about
how moslems are killed, tortured,etc by Armenians..and those quotes given
by Serdar Argic exist!!
It was the issue, wasn't-it?
you were not able to object it...Does it bother you anyway?
You name all these tortures and murders (by Armenians) as a "crap"..
People who think like you are among the main reasons why the World still
has so many "craps" in the 1993.
Any question?
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <o4fzrApDBh107h@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca>, aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca writes...
>We have heard many bad things about the ATI Ultra Plus card (mainly having
>to do with its buggy Windows drivers).
>
>I would like to replace by ATI Graphics Ultra with a true-colour accelerated
>card. I was about to buy the ATI Ultra Plus (EISA) but it has had so much
>bad press that I am reconsidering.
I have the ATI GRAPHICS ULTRA PRO EISA version. I must admit it has
received bad press but that was due to the faulty drivers it had. Now the
drivers that are available for the EISA version are the same ones as the ISA
and Local Bus (v1.5 Build 59). Some people complained about problems they
had with the Build 59 drivers, fortunately I couldn't duplicate them on my
machine, but I did have one problem with Harvard Graphics that nobody else
seemed to have.
>
>I would like an accelerated card
> a card that does 24bit true colour at 800x600 at least
> a card that does 1024x758 at 256 colours (or more)
> a card that has fast polygon fills
> a card that has fast bit blits
> a card that has a robust windows driver
> a card that has high speed non-interlaced refresh
>
>Any suggestions?
>
I wouldn't recommed the ATI for 24bit colour at 800x600, at this resolution
the display will be interlaced. But at 16bit it isn't, I thought it was my
monitor but it isn't, its the card (that is the only time you will get
interlaced). If I come up with cards more suited for your needs I'll let
you know.
Amro
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <C5FoMu.267o@austin.ibm.com>, larryhow@austin.ibm.com writes:
>
> How stable are the build 59 drivers? Are people having success installing
> and running with these?
>
I've been using the Build59 drivers on a GW2K 4DX2-66V for several
weeks with no problems. I'm running Windows in 1024x758 and all software
I've run has worked fine. This includes many games and the CD-based
multi-media encyclopedia, on which the full-motion video works fine.
I'd recommend you give them a try.
-- John
--
John Gayman, WA3WBU
UUCP: uunet!wa3wbu!john
Packet: WA3WBU @ WB3EAH
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In <ZHAO.93May14123957@sparta.nmsu.edu> zhao@nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao) writes:
>Currently, we are using WinFax software to receive/send fax on our
>PCs. It works pretty well. The problem is that all received files are
>in bit map format, which take lots of HD space. I have been told there
>is some programs that can do pattern recognition of the raster
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>characters in fax-in files and translate them into ASCII code, then
>store the file in ASCII format.
>Would you like to tell me
> (1) whether or not there is such software package to do such
> translation?
> (2) if there is one, where can I find it?
> (3) is any such software package on public domain?
What version of WinFAX do you have? The newest version (3.0) has an OCR
(Optical Character Recognition) built in... what this means is that it can
take a fax (ie, a letter) and convert it into ASCII so that one can edit
the document w/o re-typing it... However, I found that the OCR that comes
packaged with WINFAX does not work as well as OMNIpage Professional (also
by Delrina software)... So, once again, WinFAX ver. 3.0 has what you are
looking for... Good luck!
>Regards,
>ZiZi
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <79738@cup.portal.com>, mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes...
>This reminds me of the last Graham Kerr cooking show I saw. Today he
>smoked meat on the stovetop in a big pot! He used a strange technique
>I'd never seen before.
>
>He took a big pot with lid, and placed a tray in it made from aluminum foil.
>The tray was about the size and shape of a typical coffee-table ash tray,
>made by crumpling a sheet of foil around the edges.
>
>In the tray, he placed a couple spoonfuls of brown sugar, a similar
>quantity of brown rice (he said any rice will do), the contents of two
>teabags of Earl Grey tea, and a few cloves.
>
>On top of this was placed an ordinary aluminum basket-type steamer, with
>two chicken breasts in it. The lid was put on, and the whole assembly
>went on the stovetop at high heat for 10 or 12 minutes.
>
>Later, he removed what looked like smoked chicken breasts. What surprises
>and concerns me are:
>
>1) No wood chips. Where does the smoke flavor come from?
>
>2) About 5 or 10 years ago, I remember hearing that carmel color
> (obtained by caramelizing sugar -- a common coloring and flavoring
> agent) had been found to be carcinogenic. I believe they injected
> it under the skin of rats, or something. If the results were conclusive,
> caramel color would not be legal in the U.S., yet it is still being
> used. Was the initial research result found to be incorrect, or what?
>
>3) About 5 or 10 years ago, I remember Earl Grey tea being implicated
> as carcinogenic, because it contains oil of bergamot (an extract
> from the skin of a type of citrus fruit). Does anyone know whatever
> happened with that story? If it were carcinogenic, Earl Grey tea
> could not have it as an additive, yet it apparently continues to do
> so.
>
>WRT natural wood smoke (I've smoking a duck right now, as it happens),
>I've noticed that a heavily-smoked food item will have an unpleasant tangy
>taste when eaten directly out of the smoker if the smoke has only recently
>stopped flowing. I find the best taste to be had by using dry wood chips,
>getting lots of smoke right up at the beginning of the cooking process,
>then slowly barbequing for hours and hours without adding additional wood chips.
>
>My theory is that the unpleasant tangy molecules are low-molecular weight
>stuff, like terpenes, and that the smoky flavor molecules are some sort
>of larger molecule more similar to tar. The long barbeque time after
>the initial intensive smoke drives off the low-molecular weight stuff,
>just leaving the flavor behind. Does anyone know if my theory is correct?
>
>I also remember hearing that the combustion products of fat dripping
>on the charcoal and burning are carcinogenic. For that reason, and because
>it covers the product with soot and some unpleasant tanginess, I only grill
>non-drippy meats like prawns directly over hot coals. I do stuff like this
>duck by indirect heat. I have a long rectangular Weber, and I put the coals
>at one end and the meat at the other end. The fat drops directly on the
>floor below the meat, and next time I use the barbeque I make the fire
>in that end to burn off the fat and help ignite the coals.
>
>And yet another reason I've heard not to smoke or barbeque meat is that
>smoked cured meat, like pork sausage and bacon, contains
>nitrosamines, which are carcinogenic. I'm pretty sure this claim actually
>has some standing, don't know about the others.
>
>An amusing incident I recall was the Duncan Hines scandal, when it was
>discovered that the people who make Duncan Hines cake mix were putting
>a lot of ethylene dibromide (EDB) into the cake mix to suppress weevils.
>This is a fumigant which is known to be carcinogenic.
>The guy who represented the company in the press conference defended
>himself by saying that the risk from eating Duncan Hines products every day
>for a year would be equal to the cancer risk from eating two charcoal-
>broiled steaks. What a great analogy! When I first heard that, my
>immediate reaction was we should make that a standard unit! One charcoal
>broiled steak would be equivalent to 0.5 Duncans!
I don't understand the assumption that because something is found to
be carcinogenic that "it would not be legal in the U.S.". I think that
naturally occuring substances (excluding "controlled" substances) are
pretty much unregulated in terms of their use as food, food additives
or other "consumption". It's only when the chemists concoct (sp?) an
ingredient that it falls under FDA regulations. Otherwise, if they
really looked closely they would find a reason to ban almost everything.
How in the world do you suppose it's legal to "consume" tobacco products
(which probably SHOULD be banned)?
Dave Allen
Space Science & Engr. Ctr.
UW-Madison
| 13sci.med |
In article <1993Apr18.201811.28965@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dmoney@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dean R Money) writes:
>The subject line says it all. Is it terribly difficult to get tickets
>to Penguins games, especially now that they are in the playoffs? Would
>it be easy to find scalpers outside of the Igloo selling tickets?
There are ALWAYS scalpers with tickets outside the Arena. You might have
to pay a few bucks extra, but you can always find them. Look on the
street under the message board, or out on the street in front of the Hyatt,
or even around Gate 1. The later you buy them, the less money you'll pay,
and during the regular season you could usually find some for near face
value or below if you wait until game time. Might be better to pick them
up earlier now, though.
rick
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <93Apr20.035421edt.47719@neat.cs.toronto.edu>, tgk@cs.toronto.edu (Todd Kelley) writes:
> In light of what happened in Waco, I need to get something of my
> chest.
Sadly understandable...
>
> Faith and dogma are dangerous.
Yes.
>
> Religion inherently encourages the implementation of faith and dogma, and
> for that reason, I scorn religion.
>
To be fair, you should really qualify this as semitic-western religions, but
you basically go ahead and do this later on anyway.
> I have expressed this notion in the past. Some Christians debated
> with me whether Christianity leaves any room for reasoning. I claimed
> rationality is quelled out of Christianity by faith and dogma.
Again, this should really be evaluated at a personal level. For example, there
was only one Jesus (presumably), and he probably didn't say all that many
things, and yet (seemingly) billions and billions of Christian sects have
arisen. Perhaps there is one that is totally dedicated to rationalism and
believes in Christ as in pantheism. It would seem to go against the Bible, but
it is amazing what people come up with under the guise of "personal
interpretation".
> A philosopher cannot be a Christian because a philosopher can change his mind,
> whereas a Christian cannot, due to the nature of faith and dogma present
> in any religion.
This is a good point. We have here the quintessential Christian: he sets up a
system of values/beliefs for himself, which work very well, and every
event/experience is understandable and deablable within the framework of this
system. However, we also have an individual who has the inability (at least
not without some difficulty) to change, which is important, because the problem
with such a system is the same as with any system: one cannot be open minded to
the point of "testing hypotheses" against the basic premise of the system
without destroying whatever faith is invested therein, unless of course, all
the tests fail. In other words, the *fairer* way would be to test and evaluate
moralities without the bias/responsibility of losing/retaining a system.
>
> I claimed that a ``Christian philosopher'' is not a Christian,
> but is a person whose beliefs at the moment correspond with those
> of Christianity. Consider that a person visiting or guarding a prison
> is not a prisoner, unless you define a prisoner simply to be someone
> in a prison.
> Can we define a prisoner to be someone who at the moment is in a prison?
> Can we define a Christian to be someone who at the moment has Christian
> beliefs? No, because if a person is free to go, he is not a prisoner.
> Similarly, if a person is not constrained by faith and dogma, he is not
> a Christian.
Interesting, but again, when it seems to basically boil down to individual
nuances (although not always, I will admit, and probably it is the
mass-oriented divisions which are the most appalling), it becomes irrelevant,
unfortunately.
>
> I admit it's a word game.
> I'm going by the dictionary definition of religion:
> ``religion n. 1. concern over what exists beyond the visible world,
> differentiated from philosophy in that it operates through faith
> or intuition rather than reason, ...''
> --Webster's
>
> Now let's go beyond the word game. I don't claim that religion
> causes genocide. I think that if all humans were atheist, there
> would still be genocide. There will always be humans who don't think.
> There will always be humans who don't ask themselves what is
> the REAL difference between themselves and people with different
> colored skin, or a different language, or different beliefs.
>
Granted
> Religion is like the gun that doesn't kill anybody. Religion encourages
> faith and dogma and although it doesn't directly condemn people,
> it encourages the use of ``just because'' thinking. It is
> ``just because'' thinking that kills people.
>
In which case the people become the bullets, and the religion, as the gun,
merely offers them a way to more adequately do some harm with themselves, if I
may be so bold as to extend your similie?
> Sure, religion has many good qualities. It encourages benevolence
> and philanthropy. OK, so take out only the bad things: like faith,
> dogma, and tradition. Put in the good things, like careful reasoning,
> and science. The result is secular humanism. Wouldn't it
> be nice if everyone were a secular humanist? To please the
> supernaturalists, you might even leave God in there, but the secular
> emphasis would cause the supernaturalists to start thinking, and
> they too would realize that a belief in a god really doesn't put
> anyone further ahead in understanding the universe (OK, I'm just
> poking fun at the supernaturalists :-).
Also understandable... ;)
>
> Of course, not all humans are capable of thought, and we'd still
> have genocide and maybe even some mass suicide...but not as much.
> I'm willing to bet on that.
>
> Todd
> --
> Todd Kelley tgk@cs.toronto.edu
> Department of Computer Science
> University of Toronto
--
best regards,
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* (612) 696-7521 who thought themselves good simply because *
* acooper@macalstr.edu they had no claws." *
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| 0alt.atheism |
In article <C5JqBy.M7A@news.rich.bnr.ca> bratt@crchh7a9.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Bratt) writes:
>In article <C5JM0M.6Jw@cs.dal.ca>, niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gord Niguma) writes:
>|>
>|> Alomar fans left RBI fans and Runs off this list because they are dependant
>|> on the team. (To a large extent). If Frank Thomas hit first, he'd lose a LOT
>|> of RBI's; and anyways how many 2nd place hitters have you known to drive
>|> in 100 runs? Doesn't happen that often.....very unlikely with Devon White's
>|> ~.300 OBP in front of you...
>I'm pretty sure that Sandberg has done this at least once. (I know someone
>will correct me if I'm wrong.)
>RBIs and Runs scored are the two most important offensive statistics. You
>can talk about OBP and SLG% all you want, but the fact remains:
> The team that scores more runs wins the game!
> ---------------------------------------------
Right. So who cares which PLAYER gets credited, as long as the TEAM
gets more runs? If a player helps the TEAM get more R and RBI, but
doesn't score them all himself, who cares?
Consider:
Player A: single.
Player B: grounder to short; reaches on the force at 2nd.
Player C: Double, B to 3rd.
Player D: Sac fly.
B gets a run, D gets an RBI. Are you *sure* they helped the team
more than A and C? Think hard, now.
>Flame Away
As you wish.
Roger
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1993Apr13.111834.1@cc.uvcc.edu> harrisji@cc.uvcc.edu writes:
>
>Chromosome studies have shown no abnormalities. Enzyme studies and
>urine analyses have not turned up anything out of the ordinary.
>MRI images of the brain show scar tissue in the white matter.
>Subsequent MRI analysis has shown that the deterioration of the
>white matter is progressive.
>
>Because neither family has a history of anything like this, and
>because two of our four children are afflicted with the disorder,
>we believe that it is an autosomal recessive metabolic disorder of
>some kind. Naturally, we would like to know exactly what the
>disease is so that we may gain some insight into how we can expect
>the disorder to progress in the future. We would also like to be
>able to provide our normal children with some information about
>what they can expect in their own children.
>
It could be one of the leukodystrophies (not adrenal, only
boys get that). Surely you've been to a university pediatric
neurology department. If not that is the next step. Biopsies
might help, especially if peripheral nerves are also affected.
There are so many of these diseases that would fit the symptoms
you gave that more can't be said at this time.
I agree with your surmise that it is an autosomal recessive.
If so, your normal children won't have to worry too much unless
they marry near relatives. Most recessive genes are rare
except in inbred communities (e.g. Lithuanian Jews).
--
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geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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| 13sci.med |
In article <C5wpAD.74K@specialix.com> jim@specialix.com (Jim Maurer) writes:
>arf@genesis.MCS.COM (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>>>
>
>
>>recognize the statement that these "private funds" were all tax exmpt. In
>
>The donations are tax deductible like any donations to a non-profit
>organization. I've donated money to a group restoring streetcars
>and it was tax deductible. Why don't you contribute to a group
>helping the homeless if you so concerned?
I do (did) contribute to the ARF mortgage fund but when interest
rates plumetted, I just paid it off.
The problem is, I couldn't convince Congress to move my home to
a nicer location on Federal land.
BTW, even though the building is alleged to be funded by tax exempt
private funds, the maintainence and operating costs will be borne by
taxpayers forever.
Would anyone like to guess how much that will come to and tell us why
this point is never mentioned?
js
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
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