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It is really annoying to see all of these
predictions on the Net. Who really cares
who you think will win? Please stop with
the predictions, we all know the Caps are
going to win the Cup, so let it go at that.
David Kaupang
cdkaupan@eos.ncsu.edu
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
: While driving through the middle of nowhere, I picked up KNBR, AM 1070,
: a clear-channel station based in Los Angeles. They had an ad
: claiming that they were able to get traffic flow information from
: all of the thousands of traffic sensors that CalTrans has placed
: under the pavement. Does CalTrans sell this info? Does KNBR have
: an exclusive? What's the deal?
: ==Doug "Former L.A. commuter" Claar
You were right the second time, it is KNX. Believe it or not, I also
listen to KNX in the evenings here in Colorado! It's kind of fun driving
through the country listening to traffic jams on the 405. Back to your
original question. Yes, there are sensors just past every on-ramp and
off-ramp on the freeways. They're the same sensors used at most stoplights
now (coils in the pavement). You might want to give CalTrans a call or
even ask Bill Keene (KNX's traffic reporter). I doubt if just anyone can
get the information, but it would be worth asking just in case you can
get it.
Charlie Brett (former LA commuter) Ft. Collins, CO
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Gonorrhea -- Colorado, 1985-1992
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SOURCE: MMWR 42(14) DATE: Apr 16, 1993
The number of reported cases of gonorrhea in Colorado increased 19.9%
from 1991 to 1992 after declining steadily during the 1980s. In comparison, in
the United States, reported cases of gonorrhea in 1992 continued an overall
decreasing trend (1). This report summarizes an analysis of the increase in
gonorrhea in Colorado in 1992 and characterizes trends in the occurrence of
this disease from 1985 through 1992.
In 1992, 4679 cases of gonorrhea were reported to the Colorado Department
of Health (CDH) compared with 3901 cases reported in 1991. During 1992,
reported cases increased 22.7% and 17.5% among females and males, respectively
(Table 1). Similar increases occurred among blacks, whites, and Hispanics
(15.6%, 15.1%, and 15.9%, respectively); however, the number of reported cases
with race not specified increased 88% from 1991 to 1992 and constituted 9.7%
of all reported cases in 1992. Although the largest proportional increases by
age groups occurred among persons aged 35-44 years (80.4%) and greater than or
equal to 45 years (87.7%), these age groups accounted for only 11.0% of all
reported cases in 1992. Persons in the 15-19-year age group accounted for the
largest number of reported cases of gonorrhea during 1992 and the highest age
group-specific rate (639 per 100,000).
Reported cases of gonorrhea increased 32.9% in the five-county Denver
metropolitan area (1990 population: 1,629,466) but decreased elsewhere in the
state (Table 1). Half the cases of gonorrhea in the Denver metropolitan area
occurred in 8.4% (34) of the census tracts; these represent neighborhoods
considered by sexually transmitted diseases (STDs)/acquired immunodeficiency
syndrome (AIDS) field staff to be the focus of gang and drug activity.
When compared with 1991, the number of gonorrhea cases diagnosed among
men in the Denver Metro Health Clinic (DMHC, the primary public STD clinic in
the Denver metropolitan area) increased 33% in 1992, and the number of visits
by males to the clinic increased 2.4%. Concurrently, the number of cases
diagnosed among women increased by 1%. Among self-identified heterosexual men,
the number of gonorrhea cases diagnosed at DMHC increased 33% and comprised
94% of all cases diagnosed in males, while the number of cases diagnosed among
self-identified homosexual men remained low (71 and 74 in 1991 and 1992,
respectively).
Four selected laboratories in the metropolitan Denver area (i.e., HMO,
university hospital, nonprofit family planning, and commercial) were contacted
to determine whether gonorrhea culture-positivity rates increased. Gonorrhea
culture-positivity rates in three of four laboratories contacted increased
23%-33% from 1991 to 1992, while the rate was virtually unchanged in the
fourth (i.e., nonprofit family planning).
From 1985 through 1991, reported cases of gonorrhea among whites and
Hispanics in Colorado decreased; in comparison, reported cases among blacks
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increased since 1988 (Figure 1). During 1988-1992, the population in Colorado
increased 9.9% for blacks, 9.8% for Hispanics, and 4.5% for whites. In 1992,
the gonorrhea rate for blacks (1935 per 100,000 persons) was 57 times that for
whites (34 per 100,000) and 12 times that for Hispanics (156 per 100,000)
(Table 1). Among black females, reported cases of gonorrhea increased from
1988 through 1992 in the 15-19-year age group; among black males, cases
increased from 1989 through 1992 in both the 15-19-and 20-24-year age groups.
Reported by: KA Gershman, MD, JM Finn, NE Spencer, MSPH, STD/AIDS Program; RE
Hoffman, MD, State Epidemiologist, Colorado Dept of Health. JM Douglas, MD,
Denver Dept of Health and Hospitals. Surveillance and Information Systems Br,
Div of Sexually Transmitted Diseases and HIV Prevention, National Center for
Prevention Svcs, CDC.
Editorial Note: The increase in reported gonorrhea cases in Colorado in 1992
may represent an overall increase in the occurrence of this disease or more
complete reporting stimulated by visitations to laboratories by CDH
surveillance staff during 1991-1992. The increases in confirmed gonorrhea
cases at DMHC and in culture-positivity rates in three of four laboratories
suggest a real increase in gonorrhea rather than a reporting artifact.
However, the stable culture-positivity rate in the nonprofit family planning
laboratory (which serves a network of clinics statewide) indicates that the
gonorrhea increase did not uniformly affect all segments of the population.
One possible explanation for the increased occurrence of gonorrhea in
Colorado may be gang- and drug-related sexual behavior, as implicated in a
recent outbreak of drug-resistant gonorrhea and other STDs in Colorado Springs
(2). Although the high morbidity census tracts in the Denver metropolitan area
coincide with areas of gang and drug activity, this hypothesis requires
further assessment. To examine the possible role of drug use -- implicated
previously as a factor contributing to the national increase in syphilis (3-6)
-- the CDH STD/AIDS program is collecting information from all persons in whom
gonorrhea is diagnosed regarding drug use, exchange of sex for money or drugs,
and gang affiliation.
The gonorrhea rate for blacks in Colorado substantially exceeds the
national health objective for the year 2000 (1300 per 100,000) (objective
19.1a) (7). Race is likely a risk marker rather than a risk factor for
gonorrhea and other STDs. Risk markers may be useful for identifying groups at
greatest risk for STDs and for targeting prevention efforts. Moreover, race-
specific variation in STD rates may reflect differences in factors such as
socioeconomic status, access to medical care, and high-risk behaviors.
In response to the increased occurrence of gonorrhea in Colorado,
interventions initiated by the CDH STD/AIDS program include 1) targeting
partner notification in the Denver metropolitan area to persons in groups at
increased risk (e.g., 15-19-year-old black females and 20-24-year-old black
males); 2) implementing a media campaign (e.g., public service radio
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announcements, signs on city buses, newspaper advertisements, and posters in
schools and clinics) to promote awareness of STD risk and prevention targeted
primarily at high-risk groups, and 3) developing teams of peer educators to
perform educational outreach in high-risk neighborhoods. The educational
interventions are being developed and implemented with the assistance of
members of the target groups and with input from a forum of community leaders
and health-care providers.
References
1. CDC. Table II. Cases of selected notifiable diseases, United States, weeks
ending December 26, 1992, and December 28, 1991 (52nd week). MMWR 1993;41:975.
2. CDC. Gang-related outbreak of penicillinase-producing Neisseria gonorrhoeae
and other sexually transmitted diseases -- Colorado Springs, Colorado, 1989-
1991. MMWR 1993;42:25-8.
3. CDC. Relationship of syphilis to drug use and prostitution -- Connecticut
and Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. MMWR 1988;37:755-8, 764.
4. Rolfs RT, Goldberg M, Sharrar RG. Risk factors for syphilis: cocaine use
and prostitution. Am J Public Health 1990;80:853-7.
5. Andrus JK, Fleming DW, Harger DR, et al. Partner notification: can it
control epidemic syphilis? Ann Intern Med 1990;112:539-43.
6. Gershman KA, Rolfs RT. Diverging gonorrhea and syphilis trends in the
1980s: are they real? Am J Public Health 1991;81:1263-7.
7. Public Health Service. Healthy people 2000: national health promotion and
disease prevention objectives--full report, with commentary. Washington, DC:
US Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service, 1991; DHHS
publication no. (PHS)91-50212.
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Effectiveness in Disease and Injury Prevention
Impact of Adult Safety-Belt Use on Restraint Use Among
Children less than 11 Years of Age -- Selected States,
1988 and 1989
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SOURCE: MMWR 42(14) DATE: Apr 16, 1993
Motor-vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death among children and
young adults in the United States and account for more than 1 million years of
potential life lost before age 65 annually (1). Child safety seats and safety
belts can substantially reduce this loss (2). From 1977 through 1985, all 50
states passed legislation requiring the use of child safety seats or safety
belts for children. Although these laws reduce injuries to young children by
an estimated 8%-59% (3,4), motor-vehicle crash-related injuries remain a major
cause of disability and death among U.S. children (1), while the use of
occupant restraints among children decreases inversely with age (84% usage for
those aged 0-4 years; 57%, aged 5-11 years; and 29%, aged 12-18 years) (5). In
addition, parents who do not use safety belts themselves are less likely to
use restraints for their children (6). To characterize the association between
adult safety-belt use and adult-reported consistent use of occupant restraints
for the youngest child aged less than 11 years within a household, CDC
analyzed data obtained from the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System
(BRFSS) during 1988 and 1989. This report summarizes the findings from this
study.
Data were available for 20,905 respondents aged greater than or equal to
18 years in 11 states * that participated in BRFSS -- a population-based,
random-digit-dialed telephone survey -- and administered a standard Injury
Control and Child Safety Module developed by CDC. Of these respondents, 5499
(26%) had a child aged less than 11 years in their household. Each respondent
was asked to specify the child's age and the frequency of restraint use for
that child. The two categories of child restraint and adult safety-belt use in
this analysis were 1) consistent use (i.e., always buckle up) and 2) less than
consistent use (i.e., almost always, sometimes, rarely, or never buckle up).
Data were weighted to provide estimates representative of each state. Software
for Survey Data Analysis (SUDAAN) (7) was used to calculate point estimates
and confidence intervals. Statistically significant differences were defined
by p values of less than 0.05.
Each of the 11 states had some type of child restraint law. Of these, six
(Arizona, Kentucky, Maine, Nebraska, Rhode Island, and West Virginia) had no
law requiring adults to use safety belts; four (Idaho, Maryland, Pennsylvania,
and Washington) had a secondary enforcement mandatory safety-belt law (i.e., a
vehicle had to be stopped for a traffic violation before a citation for nonuse
of safety belts could be issued); and one state (New York) had a primary
enforcement mandatory safety-belt law (i.e., vehicles could be stopped for a
safety-belt law violation alone). In nine states, child-passenger protection
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laws included all children aged less than 5 years, but the other two states
used both age and size of the child as criteria for mandatory restraint use.
The analysis in this report subgrouped states into 1) those having a law
requiring adult safety-belt use (law states), and 2) those without such a law
(no-law states).
Overall, 21% of children aged less than 11 years reportedly were not
consistently restrained during automobile travel. Both child restraint use and
adult restraint use were significantly higher (p less than 0.05, chi-square
test) in law states than in no-law states (81.1% versus 74.3% and 58.7% versus
43.2%, respectively).
High rates of restraint use for children aged less than or equal to 1
year were reported by both adults indicating consistent and less than
consistent safety-belt use (Figure 1). Adults with consistent use reported
high rates of child-occupant restraint use regardless of the child's age
(range: 95.5% for 1-year-olds to 84.7% for 10-year-olds). In comparison, for
adults reporting less than consistent safety-belt use, the rate of child-
occupant restraint use declined sharply by the age of the child (range: 93.1%
for 1-year-olds to 28.8% for 10-year-olds). When comparing children of
consistent adult safety-belt users with children of less than consistent adult
safety-belt users, 95% confidence intervals overlap for the two youngest age
groups (i.e., aged less than 1 and 1 year).
Reported child-occupant restraint use in law states generally exceeded
that in no-law states, regardless of age of child (Table 1). In addition,
higher adult educational attainment was significantly associated with
increased restraint use for children, a factor that has also been associated
with increased adult safety-belt use (8).
Reported by: National Center for Injury Prevention and Control; National
Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion, CDC.
Editorial Note: The findings in this report are consistent with others
indicating that adults who do not use safety belts themselves are less likely
to employ occupant restraints for their children (6,9). Because these
nonbelted adults are at increased risk of crashing and more likely to exhibit
other risk-taking behaviors, children traveling with them may be at greater
risk for motor-vehicle injury (10).
Educational attainment of adult respondents was inversely associated with
child restraint use in this report. Accordingly, occupant-protection programs
should be promoted among parents with low educational attainment. Because low
educational attainment is often associated with low socioeconomic status, such
programs should be offered to adults through health-care facilities that serve
low-income communities or through federal programs (i.e., Head Start) that are
directed at parents with young children.
Injury-prevention programs emphasize restraining young children. In
addition, however, efforts must be intensified to protect child occupants as
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they become older. Parents, especially those with low educational attainment,
those who do not consistently wear safety belts, and those from states that do
not have mandatory safety-belt use laws, should be encouraged to wear safety
belts and to protect their children by using approved child safety seats and
safety belts. Finally, the increased use of restraints among children may
increase their likelihood of using safety belts when they become teenagers --
the age group characterized by the lowest rate of safety-belt use and the
highest rate of fatal crashes (5).
References
1. CDC. Childhood injuries in the United States. Am J Dis Child 1990;144:627-
46.
2. Partyka SC. Papers on child restraints: effectiveness and use. Washington,
DC: US Department of Transportation, National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration, 1988; report no. DOT-HS-807-286.
3. Guerin D, MacKinnon D. An assessment of the California child passenger
restraint requirement. Am J Public Health 1985;75:142-4.
4. Hall W, Orr B, Suttles D, et al. Progress report on increasing child
restraint usage through local education and distribution programs. Chapel
Hill, North Carolina: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Highway
Safety Research Center, 1983.
5. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Occupant protection trends
in 19 cities. Washington, DC: US Department of Transportation, National
Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 1991.
6. Wagenaar AC, Molnar LJ, Margolis LH. Characteristics of child safety seat
users. Accid Anal Prev 1988;20:311-22.
7. Shah BV, Barnwell BG, Hunt PN, LaVange LM. Software for Survey Data
Analysis (SUDAAN) version 5.50 Software documentation. Research Triangle
Park, North Carolina: Research Triangle Institute, 1991.
8. Lund AK. Voluntary seat belt use among U.S. drivers: geographic,
socioeconomic and demographic variation. Accid Anal Prev 1986;18:43-50.
9. Margolis LH, Wagenaar AC, Molnar LJ. Use and misuse of automobile child
restraint devices. Am J Dis Child 1992;146:361-6.
10. Hunter WW, Stutts JC, Stewart JR, Rodgman EA. Characteristics of seatbelt
users and non-users in a state with a mandatory use law. Health Education
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Research 1990;5:161-73.
* Arizona, Idaho, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Nebraska, New York, Pennsylvania,
Rhode Island, Washington, and West Virginia.
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Publication of CDC Surveillance Summaries
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SOURCE: MMWR 42(14) DATE: Apr 16, 1993
Since 1983, CDC has published the CDC Surveillance Summaries under
separate cover as part of the MMWR series. Each report published in the CDC
Surveillance Summaries focuses on public health surveillance; surveillance
findings are reported for a broad range of risk factors and health conditions.
Summaries for each of the reports published in the most recent (March 19,
1993) issue of the CDC Surveillance Summaries (1) are provided below. All
subscribers to MMWR receive the CDC Surveillance Summaries, as well as the
MMWR Recommendations and Reports, as part of their subscriptions.
SURVEILLANCE FOR AND COMPARISON OF BIRTH DEFECT PREVALENCES
IN TWO GEOGRAPHIC
AREAS -- UNITED STATES, 1983-88
Problem/Condition: CDC and some states have developed surveillance
systems to monitor the birth prevalence of major defects.
Reporting Period Covered: This report covers birth defects surveillance
in metropolitan Atlanta, Georgia, and selected jurisdictions in California for
the years 1983-1988.
Description of System: The California Birth Defects Monitoring Program
and the Metropolitan Atlanta Congenital Defects Program are two population-
based surveillance systems that employ similar data collection methods. The
prevalence estimates for 44 diagnostic categories were based on data for 1983-
1988 for 639,837 births in California and 152,970 births in metropolitan
Atlanta. The prevalences in the two areas were compared, adjusting for race,
sex, and maternal age by using Poisson regression.
Results: Regional differences in the prevalence of aortic stenosis, fetal
alcohol syndrome, hip dislocation/dysplasia, microcephalus, obstruction of the
kidney/ureter, and scoliosis/lordosis may be attributable to general
diagnostic variability. However, differences in the prevalences of arm/hand
limb reduction, encephalocele, spina bifida, or trisomy 21 (Down syndrome) are
probably not attributable to differences in ascertainment, because these
defects are relatively easy to diagnose.
Interpretation: Regional differences in prenatal diagnosis and pregnancy
termination may affect prevalences of trisomy 21 and spina bifida. However,
the reason for differences in arm/hand reduction is unknown, but may be
related to variability in environmental exposure, heterogeneity in the gene
pool, or random variation.
Actions Taken: Because of the similarities of these data bases, several
collaborative studies are being implemented. In particular, the differences in
the birth prevalence of spina bifida and Down syndrome will focus attention on
the impact of prenatal diagnosis. Authors: Jane Schulman, Ph.D., Nancy
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Jensvold, M.P.H, Gary M. Shaw, Dr.P.H., California Birth Defects Monitoring
Program, March of Dimes Birth Defects Foundation. Larry D. Edmonds, M.S.P.H.,
Anne B. McClearn, Division of Birth Defects and Developmental Disabilities,
National Center for Environmental Health, CDC.
INFLUENZA -- UNITED STATES, 1988-89
Problem/Condition: CDC monitors the emergence and spread of new influenza
virus variants and the impact of influenza on morbidity and mortality annually
from October through May.
Reporting Period Covered: This report covers U.S. influenza surveillance
conducted from October 1988 through May 1989.
Description of System: Weekly reports from the vital statistics offices
of 121 cities provided an index of influenza's impact on mortality; 58 WHO
collaborating laboratories reported weekly identification of influenza
viruses; weekly morbidity reports were received both from the state and
territorial epidemiologists and from 153 sentinel family practice physicians.
Nonsystematic reports of outbreaks and unusual illnesses were received
throughout the year.
Results: During the 1988-89 influenza season, influenza A(H1N1) and B
viruses were identified in the United States with essentially equal frequency
overall, although both regional and temporal patterns of predominance shifted
over the course of the season. Throughout the season increases in the indices
of influenza morbidity in regions where influenza A(H1N1) predominated were
similar to increases in regions where influenza B predominated. Only 7% of
identified viruses were influenza A(H3N2), but isolations of this subtype
increased as the season waned, and it subsequently predominated during the
1989-90 season. During the 1988-89 season outbreaks in nursing homes were
reported in association with influenza B and A(H3N2) but not influenza
A(H1N1).
Interpretation: The alternating temporal and geographic predominance of
influenza strains A(H1N1) and B during the 1988-89 season emphasizes the
importance of continual attention to regional viral strain surveillance, since
amantadine is effective only for treatment and prophylaxis of influenza A.
Actions Taken: Weekly interim analyses of surveillance data produced
throughout the season allow physicians and public health officials to make
informed choices regarding appropriate use of amantadine. CDC's annual
surveillance allows the observed viral variants to be assessed as candidates
for inclusion as components in vaccines used in subsequent influenza seasons.
Authors: Louisa E. Chapman, M.D., M.S.P.H., Epidemiology Activity, Office of
the Director, Division of Viral and Rickettsial Diseases, National Center for
Infectious Diseases; Margaret A. Tipple, M.D., Division of Quarantine,
National Center for Prevention Services, CDC. Suzanne Gaventa Folger, M.P.H.,
Health Investigations Branch, Division of Health Studies, Agency for Toxic
Substances and Disease Registry. Maurice Harmon, Ph.D., Connaught
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Laboratories, Pasteur-Mirieux Company, Swiftwater, Pennsylvania. Alan P.
Kendal, Ph.D., European Regional Office, World Health Organization,
Copenhagen, Denmark. Nancy J. Cox, Ph.D., Influenza Branch, Division of Viral
and Rickettsial Diseases, National Center for Infectious Diseases; Lawrence B.
Schonberger, M.D., M.P.H., Epidemiology Activity, Office of the Director,
Division of Viral and Rickettsial Diseases, National Center for Infectious
Diseases, CDC.
Reference
1. CDC. CDC surveillance summaries (March 19). MMWR 1993;42(no. SS-1).
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Clinical Research News for
Arizona Physicians
Vol. 4, No. 4, April 1993 Tucson, Arizona
Published monthly by the Office of Public Affairs at The University of Arizona
Health Sciences Center.
Copyright 1993, The University of Arizona
High Tech Assisted Reproductive Technologies
Following the birth of the first in vitro fertilization-embryo transfer (IVF-
ET) baby in 1978, a host of assisted reproductive technologies have been
developed that include IVF-ET, gamete intrafallopian tube transfer (GIFT),
embryo cryopreservation (freezing) and gamete micromanipulation. Together,
these technologies are referred to as the high-tech assisted reproductive
technology (ART) procedures.
Ovulation induction, sperm insemination and surgery for tubal disease and/or
pathology still are the mainstays of the therapies available for infertility
management. However, when these fail, it almost always is appropriate to
proceed with one of the ART procedures.
Therefore, in addition to a comprehensive basic and general infertility
service at The University of Arizona Center for Reproductive Endocrinology and
Infertility, there is a program of Assisted Reproduction that specializes in
ART procedures. This program serves as a tertiary provider for those patients
in the state of Arizona whose infertility problems cannot be resolved by the
traditional therapies.
The following article (on back) describes the ART procedures available in our
Center, clarifies appropriate applications for each, and considers the
realistic expectations for their success. Procedures included are:
o in vitro
o fertilization - embryo transfer (IVF-ET), gamete intrafallopian tube
transfer
o (GIFT), cryopreservation of human embryos and gamete micromanipulation.
This article also considers ongoing research in our program that is directed
towards improved success of these technologies.
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Future Areas of Research
In addition to ongoing research that is directed exclusively toward the
management of infertile couples, we are developing the technology to assist
couples who are at risk for producing embryos with a serious hereditary
disease.
This technology involves biopsying the preimplantation human embryo and then
subjecting the biopsied cells to genetic analysis using either DNA
amplification or fluorescent in situ hybridization.
There are recent reports of the successful application of DNA amplification by
other centers, for example, for diagnosis of the genes for cystic fibrosis and
hemophilia. We hope to apply and further focus fluorescent in situ
hybridization technology for probing the X chromosome, the identification of
which will provide a scientific basis for counselling patients who exhibit
sex-linked disorders.
The considerable clinical application of such technology lies in the fact that
it circumvents the need for prenatal diagnosis, in addition to the possibility
of a subsequent termination of affected fetuses, in order to avoid the birth
of affected children.
Catherine Racowsky, Ph.D.
Associate Professor and Director of Research
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology
College of Medicine
University of Arizona
Tucson, Arizona
Applications, Success Rates and Advances for the
Management of Infertility
The following are the ART procedures available at The University of Arizona
Center for Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility.
In Vitro Fertilization - Embryo Transfer is the core ART procedure of our
Assisted Reproduction Program. This procedure involves retrieval of
unfertilized eggs from the ovary, their insemination in vitro in a dish, and
the culture of resultant embryos for 1 or 2 days, before they are transferred
to the patient's uterus. All cultures are maintained in an incubator under
strictly controlled atmospheric and temperature conditions. Before being
processed for use in insemination, semen samples are evaluated in our
andrology laboratory using both subjective light microscopy and computer-
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assisted semen analyses. To ensure an adequate number of eggs with which to
perform IVF-ET, or indeed, GIFT, follicular development is typically
stimulated, with gonadotropins (perganol, metrodin), gonadotropin releasing
hormone (GnRH, Factrel, lutrepulse) and/or GnRH analogues (lupron, Depo
lupron, synarel). Occasionally, however, IVF-ET is accomplished with eggs
obtained in non-stimulated cycles. While some programs utilize laparoscopic
egg retrieval in the operating room with the patient under general anesthesia,
we undertake the less costly approach of ultrasound-guided retrieval in our
Infertility Unit, with the patient sedated.
Couples who resort to IVF-ET exhibit such pathologies as tubal
deficiencies, ovulatory dysfunction, endometriosis, and/or mild forms of male
factor infertility. According to the United States IVF Registry, the overall
success rate for IVF-ET nationwide has stabilized at about 14 percent per
cycle. Results from our program, involving 86 patients who have undergone 173
IVF-ET cycles, reflect a comparable success rate.
Nevertheless, the overall incidence of success with this procedure is
disconcertingly low and emphasizes the need to address those physiological
factors that limit achievement of a higher percentage of pregnancies. Well
recognized predictors of outcome include patient age, response to exogenous
ovarian stimulation, quality of sperm and number of repeated IVF-ET cycle
attempts. However, among these, age is the single most significant determinant
of conception. Therefore, it is critical that such patients are referred to an
Assisted Reproduction Program at the earliest opportunity following failure of
traditional therapies.
The underlying basis for the negative effect of age on fertility has not
been clearly delineated beyond recognition that: 1) the number of eggs
available for retrieval declines markedly with age; 2) fertilization rates
significantly decrease in eggs retrieved from patients who are over 40 years;
and 3) provided the appropriate hormonal background is present, age is
unrelated to uterine competency to sustain pregnancy. Ongoing research in our
Center, therefore, is investigating physiological changes in the egg that may
be impacted by age. We have determined that more than 50 percent of eggs that
fail to fertilize in vitro are chromosomally abnormal, and that a significant
proportion of these abnormalities are accountable to patient age. Currently,
the only recourse for such patients is to use eggs obtained from a donor. Our
program has initiated recruitment of volunteer egg donors to satisfy the needs
of a list of recipients interested in this form of therapy.
GIFT - This high-tech ART procedure is performed in the operating room,
usually with the use of a laparoscope and, in contrast to IVF-ET, involves
introducing sperm and freshly retrieved eggs into the lumen of the Fallopian
tube (an average of 3 eggs/tube). Under these circumstances, fertilization
occurs in vivo and, if excess eggs are retrieved, the remainder undergo IVF,
with subsequent options for embryo transfer in that cycle, or freezing for
transfer in a subsequent cycle. This ART procedure is applied to cases in
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which there is at least one patent Fallopian tube but the couple has such
pathologies as ovulatory dysfunction, endometriosis, male factor infertility
and/or idiopathic infertility.
The data reported in the United States IVF Registry for 1985 through 1990
indicate that the overall success rate with GIFT is higher than that obtained
with the IVF-ET technique (range of clinical pregnancies for GIFT is 24 to 36
percent and for IVF-ET 14 to 18 percent). In view of this fact, one might
expect more patients to be treated with GIFT than IVF-ET. However, in our
program we have taken into account three basic concerns which, while
substantially reducing the number of GIFT cycles performed, benefit the
patient. These concerns are: 1) the increased costs associated with performing
a procedure in the operating room; 2) the risks, albeit minimal, of undergoing
general anesthesia; and 3) the considerable benefits to be accrued from
obtaining direct information on the quality and fertilizability of the eggs,
and the developmental competency of resultant embryos.
The increased success with GIFT undoubtedly reflects the artificial
environment provided by the laboratory in the IVF-ET procedure. Between
January 1, 1991, and December 31, 1992, we have performed a total of 12 GIFT
cycles, with an overall success rate of 20 percent.
Embryo cryopreservation, or freezing, is applied in our program when
embryos result from residual GIFT eggs or from non-transferred IVF embryos.
This procedure not only provides patients with a subsequent opportunity for
success at much reduced costs, but also circumvents the legal and ethical
issues relating to disposal of supernumerary embryos. Therefore, as stipulated
by the American Fertility Society ethical guidelines for ART programs, from
both a practical and an ethical standpoint, all Assisted Reproduction programs
should have the capability of cryopreserving human embrys.
Gamete Micromanipulation - This ART procedure, which is still very new,
is applied to couples who are unaccepting of insemination with donor semen but
who have severe male factor infertility (less than 10 million sperm/ml in
combination with fewer than 20 perccent motile sperm, and/or less than 10
percent sperm with normal morphology). We are currently developing the
procedure of sub-zonal insertion (SZI), which entails injecting sperm under
the coating around the egg, the barrier normally penetrated by the sperm
through enzymatic digestion.
Available data from SZI programs world-wide indicate that only 5 to 10
percent of SZI cycles result in a pregnancy. This statistic undoubtedly
relates to limitations imposed by abnormalities inherent in the sperm.
Therefore, we are currently focusing on the development of improved techniques
for the recognition and selection of sperm chosen for manipulation. Such
efforts are unquestionably worthwhile in view of the fact that this technology
offers the only realistic opportunity for severe male factor patients to
establish conception.
Catherine Racowsky, Ph.D.
HICNet Medical Newsletter Page 27
Volume 6, Number 10 April 20, 1993
Associate Professor and Director of Research
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology
College of Medicine
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| 13sci.med |
|> > Just curious, how would the Clipper Chip system handle
|> > conference calls?
|> Depending on the encryption system, so long as everyone has the same
|> key, it can be done. For example, I was using "vat", which is an
|> Internet Audio tool, for a conference call, and we were encrypting the
|> session. (Unfortunately, one site was doing more work, and didn't
|> have the CPU for it, so it didn't sound all that good at a different
|> site)
You would have to use something other than the AT&T black box - in other
words, I don't think public key would work. The session key would have
to be agreed upon prior to the conversation and distributed to all
sites beforehand.
Or go out and get a STU-III ;-)
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These opinions do NOT reflect Motorola thinking in any way, shape, or form.
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <13586@news.duke.edu> fierkelab@bchm.biochem.duke.edu (Eric Roush) writes:
>1) Since time immemorial, batters have complained about calls.
>So have pitchers and catchers.
However, batters didn't use to go for strolls after bad calls to the degree
they do now.
>Unless the league notified teams this year about not allowing
>complaints, Hirschbeck was acting against expectations.
Everyone was told of the new emphasis on speeding up games. The rule that
Hirschbeck invoked has been in the books a long time.
>2) It's not as if Gant was "in Hirschbeck's face".
Nobody, including Hirschbeck, ever said he was.
>When Gant turned away, Hirschbeck IMMEDIATELY motioned for Gant
>to step into the box. IMO, at this point in time, Hirschbeck
>was determined to show Gant exactly WHO was in charge of this game.
>Gant wasn't dawdling; he hadn't had a chance to dawdle. And Hirschbeck
>was simply exercising a power play.
That's your (perhaps colored by your partisanship of the Braves)
perception. Hirschbeck's view was that Gant was heading off for a long
walk, and in accordance with his instructions concerning speeding games up,
directed him into the batter's box.
> Gant resisted, as many of
>us might to what we thought was an unreasonable request, and
>Hirschbeck called for the pitch.
The point is, based on the rulebook and the umpires' instructions, it was
*not* an unreasonable request.
The Braves were already upset
>IMO, any game where you remember the name of the umpire was
>a bad game for the umpire.
Had Gant done as instructed, you wouldn't have remembered the name of the
umpire.
Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (David Rind) writes:
>Do you believe that any quacks exist? How about quack diagnoses? Is
>being a "licensed physician" enough to guarantee that someone is not
>a quack, or is it just that even if a licensed physician is a quack,
>other people shouldn't say so? Can you give an example of a
>commonly diagnosed ailment that you think is a quack diagnosis,
>or have we gotten to the point in civilization where we no longer
>need to worry about unscrupulous "healers" taking advantage of
>people.
I would say there are also significant numbers of unscrupulous doctors (of
the squeaky-clean, traditional crew-cut, talk to the AMA before starting
any treatment, kind) who recommend treatments that, though "accepted", may
not be necessary for the patient at the time. And all for making a quick
buck. I would not be surprised if the cost of medical services in the U.S. is
significantly inflated by these "quacks of a different color". In fact, I'd
say these doctors are the most dangerous since they call into question the
true focus of the medical profession. The AMA and the Boards should focus
on these "quacks" instead of devoting unbelievable energy on 'search-and-
destroy-missions' to pull the licenses of those doctors who are trying non-
traditional or not fully accepted treatments for their desperate patients
that traditional/accepted medicine cannot help.
***************************************************
Now to make a general comment on many recent posts:
***************************************************
Lately I've seen the word "quack" bandied about recklessly. When a doctor or
doctor-wanna-be has decided to quit discussing any controversial medical
subject in a civilized manner, all he/she has to do is say "quack-quack" and
somehow they magically expect the readership of this newsgroup to roll over
on their backs and pee-pee on themselves in obedience. What do they teach
you in medical school - how to throw your authority around?
Let me put it another way to make my point clear: "quack" is a nebulous word
lacking in any precision. Its sole use is to obfuscate the issues at hand.
The indiscriminate use of this word is a sure sign of incompetency; and coming
from any medical doctor (or wanna-be), where competency is expected, is real
scary.
But what do I know, I've already been diagnosed by the sci.med.gods in this
newsgroup as being 'anal retentive', and 'psychotic'. I look forward to more
net.diagnoses. Hey, they're free.
Jon "Quacks 'R Us" Noring
(p.s., may I suggest - seriously - that if the doctors and wanna-be-doctors on
the net who refuse to have an open mind on alternative treatments and
theories, such as the "yeast theory", should create your own moderated group.
You can call it sci.med.traditional.moderated or sci.med.AMA-approved, so you
can keep anal-retentives like me out of it.)
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| 13sci.med |
In article <1993Apr5.221603.17245@nctams1.uucp> tomj@pnet16.cts.com (Tom Jenkins) writes:
>Title says it all. I'd be particularly interested in the performance
>difference. Just how much faster (50%?) is the Centris 610 over the LCIII?
>
>--Tom
>
>UUCP: humu!nctams1!pnet16!tomj
>ARPA: humu!nctams1!pnet16!tomj@nosc.mil
>INET: tomj@pnet16.cts.com
When Apple came with their demos to Iowa State, I got a chance to run
Speedometer3.1 on some of the new Macs. Both machines were running
System7.1, had a 14" RGB. Don't know what the caches were set to.
Neither machine had an FPU It appears that the Centris610 is quite a
bit faster than the LC III:
Centris610 LCIII
CPU 13.01 6.92
Graf 15.67 7.69
Disk 2.22 2.44
Math 25.57 10.19
P.R. Rating 12.91 6.58
So, there is a comparison. There is definitely a very noticable speed
difference between these two machines according to Speedometer3.1.
Chad
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
I have a few minor problems with the article posted as proof of
Christ's resurrection.
First the scriptural quotations:
This sort of reasoning is such that if you beleive you are justified,
if not then your beleif is in vain, so you might as well beleive. Most
of these quotations are of people who do beleive. People who would
try to justify their own positions.
Second the logical proof:
>quoted text...
>
>From: xx155@yfn.ysu.edu (Family Magazine Sysops)
>Subject: WITNESS & PROOF OF CHRIST'S RESURRECTION
>Date: 11 Apr 93 05:01:19 GMT
>
>[much deleted]
>
> 4. In nearly 20 centuries, no body has ever been
> produced to refute Jesus' assertion that He
> *would indeed* rise from the dead.
>
> 5. The probability of being able to perpetrate such
> a hoax successfully upon the entire world for
> nearly 20 centuries is astronomically negative!
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>...end quoted text
The period of time that has elapsed from the event growing larger
does not increase the odds that a hoax would be discovered. In fact
the longer a hoax is perpetuated the stronger it becomes.
Finally:
There is no proof of the resurrection of Christ, except in our spirits
communion with his, and the Father's. It is a matter of FAITH, belief
without logical proof. Incedently one of the largest stumbling blocks for
rational western man, myself included.
I hope that this is taken in the spirit it was intended and not as a
rejection of the resurrection's occurance. I beleive, but I wanted to point
out the weakness of logical proofs.
| 15soc.religion.christian |
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| 1comp.graphics |
hooperw@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Hooper) writes:
> victor@inqmind.bison.mb.ca (Victor Laking) writes:
>
> >You are experiencing what is called Macrovision. It is the protection
> >that they use on the video tapes. There are two ways around this that I
> >know of. First of all, you can try using a different VCR to copy onto.
> >It is the input of the VCR that reacts to the protection so sometimes
> >just switching the two VCRs around will take care of it. Some models
> >just don't react to it.
>
> Does this also affect the viewing of tapes ? I have had problems with
> a couple of rented tapes; they were virtually unviewable. I fiddled
> with the tuning, tracking and vertical hold but it was no good.
>
It sounds like your TV is one of the ones that also reacts to the video
protection. (Poor you!)
The Macroscrubber from Radio Electronics removes the protection so you
souldn't have any more problems. However, if you use the method of
copying it from one VCR to another where the second VCR doesn't react to
the protection, you will end up with a duplicate tape, including the
protection.
One thought comes to mind about your problem... When playing the tape
for viewing, are you feeding the signal from the source VCR through an
extra device before going to the TV? If you feed it through a second VCR
first, that is your problem. As to other devices such as converters, I
don't know if they would react or not. Just to be safe, you might want
to make sure that you have NOTHING between the VCR and TV.
victor@inqmind.bison.mb.ca
The Inquiring Mind BBS, Winnipeg, Manitoba 204 488-1607
| 12sci.electronics |
In a previous article, jeffs@sr.hp.com (Jeff Silva) says:
I was told by my doctor
>at that time that the pain was comparable to that of childbirth. (Yes,
>by a male doctor, so I'm sure some of you women will disagree). I'd
>really like to know the truth in this, so maybe some of you women who
>have had a baby and a kidney stone could fill me in.
I've had three children and the pain was different in degree for each. I
think it just depends. I was impressed by how awful a kidney stone seemed
to be, when I saw a relative with one. I bet they depend, too--some are
probably worse than others.
Pain--yucch.
Bonita Kale
| 13sci.med |
In <1993Apr19.134346.2620@ulysses.att.com> smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
>Date: Sun, 18 Apr 93 07:56:39 EDT
>From: denning@cs.georgetown.edu (Dorothy Denning)
> The Clipper Chip will have a secret crypto algorithm embedded in
>The algorithm operates on 64-bit blocks (like DES) and the chip supports
>all 4 DES modes of operation. The algorithm uses 32 rounds of scrambling
>compared with 16 in DES.
So in a few years there could be millions of these chips in the USA, all
networked together? Sounds like a good science fiction story - the government
wants to crack foreign DES (or whatever) messages, so they con the public into
individually buying all of the components and installing them. Soon the US
could be covered by the largest parallel computer in the world, built on top of
our current phone net.
--
| "Those who suppress freedom always Rob Quinn |
| do so in the name of law rjq@phys.ksu.edu |
| and order." --John Lindsay QuinnBob@KSUVM.BITNET |
| 11sci.crypt |
Long time, no see.
Andreas
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| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <116530@bu.edu> uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt) writes:
>
>The point remains. More and more I see the government slowly washing
>away privacy. Even unwittingly. Do you think I will ever live in a
>soceity that issues smart cards to citizens at birth? Do you think I
>will live in a soceity that insists I register my crypto keys so they
>can keep track of what I'm saying? Even if there is no evidence of my
>guilt? Do you think I will ever live in a soceity that seeks to meddle
>in the affairs of its' citizenry without recourse of any kind? I'm tired
>of it. There is (IMHO) no compromise with an administration that seeks
>to implement these proposals under the guise of enhancing privacy.
>
>More than the proposals themselves, I read the language of the press
>releases, the obvious deception involved in presenting these pieces to
>the public, and I am sickened. I am revolted. I am repulsed.
>
>90%, perhaps even 95% of this country could care less about the
>clipper chip, the wiretap bill, the smart card, because they are so
>entrapped in the rhetoric of the Clinton Administration.
>
>This saddens and frightens me.
>
>I am a conserveative believe it or not. A law and order conserveative.
>But the move to a centralized authoratarian regime really scares me,
>mostly because I know you cant go far wrong underestimating the
>intelligence of the American people. Tell them it's going to keep
>them safe from drug dealers and terrorists, and they will let you
>put cameras in their home.
>
>Even in the wake of Waco, you find those who support the increasingly
>totalatarian moves.
>
>To be quite honest, the way things are going, I'd call it self defense.
>
>And I dont want mine growning up in the eyes of a security camera
>24 hours a day.
I never advocated not saying what you believe in. I'm advocating second
thought, and calm.
"A smart warrior defeats the enemy in ambush on the battlefield"
"A smarter warrior defeats the enemy in open warfare on the battlefield"
"The smartest warrior defeats the enemy without using the battlefield"
Think about it.
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| 11sci.crypt |
| Firearms tend to fall into this low dollar/pound area.
| It would not be economic to smuggle them in. All production
| would have to be local. There are not all that many people
| who have both the skill AND motivation to assemble worthwhile
| firearms from scratch. High-ranking crime figures could
| obtain imported Uzis and such, but the average person, and
| average thug, would be lucky to get a zip-gun - and would
| pay through the nose for it.
This is not borne out of reality; the old Soviet Union had a very
serious domestic handgun and submachinegun trade, guns that were
of commercial grade because they were produced in honest-to-goodness
machineshops. Why would all production have to be local; don't we
have a road system that is the envy of the world?
I seem to recall incidents in the past where Chinese entreprenaurs
attempted to smuggle AK-47s (semi-autos) into this country to
get around import number limitations (May have been Gunweek where
I read that years ago...)
Any person with high-school drafting skills and vocational school
machineshop training could produce a submachinegun. You talk about
the average person not being able get even a zip-gun; well now, think
of all that private CNC controlled machinery that is not being used for
3 shifts a day; do you think that if guns were being sold on the
black market for say, $150, an enterprising mechanical engineer
could be using that machinery to produce workable submachineguns
for sale? After all, GUNWEEK had an article and pictures on how BATF
was looking for the manufacturer of quite efficient silencers that
were of commercial quality and finish.
Look at it this way, 25% of the U.S. households have a handgun. Say
at least half of those keep one for self-defense. You are talking a
potential market of of tens of millions of people who would seek
firearms for the purpose of self-preservation. Only a fool would
believe that market would not be filled, regardless of government
prohibitions.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
>In article <mssC50qA5.Dtv@netcom.com> mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer) writes:
>>In article <1993Apr5.151834.14257@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
I'm still catching up from Spring Break, but bear with me...
>in the bigs, especially when they haven't even played AAA ball. We
>certainly believe this kid is going to be very good some day, but
>there is really no need to rush him, especially since we have a mega-
>million dollar staff that is probably well served by a battery-mate
>who is expereienced in game calling and pitcher handling. Lopez'
>time will come. Let's give him some time in AAA.
Javy Lopez has proven, over 1400+ AB in the minor leagues, that he is
ready to play in the majors. He is *not* being rushed. Players who are
clearly too good for AA and play behind stiffs at the major league level
are wasting their time, and may actually have a court case against
major league management for keeping them, at AAA.
>No. Maybe I need to improve my writing skills. Lopez, who is very
>ordinary defensively, is not likely to hit so well at age 22
>
Unless Lopez is *me* defensively (I'm 5'7'', 165 and born to play
second base :-)), he belongs in the major leagues.
>>training. What does he have to do to earn a chance? Maybe not a full
>>time job, but at least a couple starts and a few AB for him to prove
>>his worth?
>
>Gee. I don't know. 17 abs sounds pretty good to me! About as good
>as your reasoning that the kid should play a back-up role rather
>than start every day at AAA. Talk about *me* as a GM...
Valentine isn't saying he should back up. He's saying he should be put
in a position to *win* the job in the major leagues, which, IMHO, he
would if given the opportunity. (Val, if I'm misinterpreting, please
let me know.)
>>So far you have come up with two arguments against Lopez:
>>1) He is very ordinary defensively.
>>2) He is young, and most players suck when they are young.
>
>>The first is irrelevant. He's trying to make the majors with his bat.
>>And the second involves seriously warped reasoning.
>>
>>-Valentine
>OK. Most players are not ready for the bigs at age 22 (see current
>related posting on Clayton, one of my favorites). Most players
>benefit, rather than being stagnant or hurt, by playing at AAA.
>Most catchers need to be solid defensively players to help their
>clubs in the bigs. Those are the arguments against Lopez for the
>Braves for this year.
But the players who *are* ready are 1)the best and 2) the ones most
likely to benefit from being in the majors. Javy Lopez is not a middle-
of-the-road prospect. He's the real thing. NOW.
Again, the most important thing a player can do is hit. Lopez does that
miles better than Olson or Berryhill. If his defense is good enough for
Greenville, or Richmond, it's good enough for Atlanta. If he really was
awful defensively, he would no longer be a catcher. See Sprague, Ed.
>Now. The Braves have two catchers who have demonstrated solid
>abilities to call games, to work with the pitchers, to throw out
>runners. Not superstars mind you, but solid, experienced veterans.
>The Braves have a very solid lineup with two big bats in the
>outfield, an excellent platoon at first, a solid MVP candidate
>at third and one of the better hitting shortstops. The center
>field platoon will probably hit .300. However good Lopez'
>what they have to offset the differential in experience and
>defensive ability. The kid *will* improve playing at AAA, and
>he probably won't being a reserve with the big club.
Oh, where to start... OK. First of all, solid != good. I want good players.
Solid is one of those words used to describe nice white guys who really
aren't very good at baseball. Think of it as "TWG" without the caps.
It's a losing strategy to say, "We have solid guys, we don't need to improve."
You used it four times in that paragraph, BTW.
Same for experienced. I might add, though, that Greg Olson and Damon
Berryhill aren't exactly Carter and Fisk. Olson has played three years,
Berryhill five, although 90 and 91 were a wash. The only difference,
IMHO, between Olson and Valle is the supporting cast.
"Two big bats." Hrm. I like Justice, but I find Mr. Gant's trend disturbing.
Call it one and a maybe. The Braves' platoon is OK, but neither player
has *any* value outside of the platoon. Bream vs. LH and Hunter vs. RH
are awful. I'll leave the thirdbase comment alone. Pendleton has wasted
too much bandwidth already. If the CF platoon hits .300, I'll retrace
Mr. Likhani's midnight run down Forbes, and I live in NY and LA.
(Got that, Mike?)
And doesn't Cox call pitches, anyway?
>goodness. Do you believe the other poster who thinks Lopez
>is being held down because of his future earning potential?
>Why on earth do you people thinkthe Braves made this decision?
>Are they idiots who have built this ballclub? Jeeeesh...
Nope. They're baseball management, possible the most short-sighted
collection of people in the nation. Do you not believe this goes on,
Mark? Do you think Frank Thomas needed those three months in AAA in
1990? Or Cal Eldred wasn't *really* better than Ricky Bones last year?
>And *I'm* the treasure...
You're mostly polite; make defensible, if flawed cases; have wit and
have, in the past, admitted being wrong. That does qualify you on r.s.b.
We'll make an SDCN out of you, yet :-)
>-- The Beastmaster
>Mark Singer
>mss@netcom.com
--
sheehan@aludra.usc.edu "...Greg Gohr, pitching more like
Voice: 213 743 0456 Tipper Gore, I'm afraid..."--
Linda Cohn, SportsCenter 4/8/93
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
Hi,
I've got an older 386/25 motherboard (old as in, uses a 1988
keyboard controller, and uses memory interleaving rather than caching).
It has developed a problem where trying to copy files from floppy cause
the machine to lock up (reset button required), but only when in 386
enhanced mode. This occurs in Norton Desktop, File Manager, and when
trying to install software. Running Win 3.1 in standard mode works fine.
Has anyone run into this? Any ideas? Much thanks appreciated.
David
yon@world.std.com
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
I have a brand new low density 5.25" floppy drive for MAC.
It comes with a brand new Apple Macintosh II PC drive card, so
that you can hook the drive up to the card.
It allows you to use DOS formatted disks.
I am selling it for $90 (abt 1/3 retail price).
Ailin
803-654-8817
buyers pay shipping.
| 6misc.forsale |
Hi all:
Thanks to you all who have responded
to my request for info on various kinds of fax modem.
I'd like to ask a few more questions.
1. What are the advantages of buying a global village
Teleport Gold over other cheaper brands like Supra, Zoom etc?
2. I heard that both Supra and Zoom use the same software.
Why are there so many complaints about the incompatibility problems
of Supra? What kind of incompatibility is it?
3. If I decided to buy the Teleport Gold, is there any
possibility to add a voice option in the near future?
4. Has anyone heard of a possible voice option that Supra will offer
this coming summer?
5. A person did mention a new AT&T modem. Is it
getting good reviews from various Mac Magazines?
6. If I want the best, fastest, most economically sound and
possible voice option, what fax modem should I buy?
Sorry for posting so many questions, but I think they're necessary.
I promise to repost any answers if they're not already posted by a responder.
Thanks so much in advance.
Regards,
Thian.
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In a previous article, tzs@stein.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) says:
>an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne) writes:
>>>Aside from the fact that i disagree w/ you, she did offer to resign and the
>>>president rejected the offer. She was willing to take responsibility, and
>>>the president has the balls enough to stand by a decision.
>>
>>
>> Or the contempt to ignore it.
>
>Yup, that was quite contemptuous of the President to make a decision that
>12% disagree with...
Your ignorance is showing. The BATF warrant was unsealed.
The entire operation was illegal from day ONE.
And Clinton and Reno supported it. 86 people are dead.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <C6BK0F.H7I@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> res4w@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Robert E. Schmieg) writes:
[Partial deletion]
>potentially fatal from hepatic necrosis. If I recall
>correctly, the metabolism of acetaminophen at high doses
>involves N-hydroxylation to N-acetyl-benzoquinoneimine, which
>is a highly reactive intermediate, which then reacts with
>sulfhydryl groups of proteins and glutathione. When hepatic
>glutathione is used up, this intermediate then starts
>attacking the hepatic proteins with resulting hepatic
>necrosis. The insidious part of acetaminophen toxicity is the
>delay (2-4 days) between ingestion and clinical signs of liver
>damage. This is NOT a nice way to die.
>
Nice explanation except that it isn't N-hydroxylation that causes the
formation of the N-acetyl-p-benzoquinone imine (NAPQI), but rather a
direct two-electron oxidation. In addition, there is one school of thought
that contends that oxidative stress rather than arylation of protein
is the more critical factor in the hapatotoxcity of acetaminophen.
As far as drug toxicities go, acetaminophen has and continues to be one
of the most intensely scrutinized. An excellent recent review of the topic
can be found in:
Vermeulen, Bessems and Van de Straat.
Molecular Aspects of Paracetamol-induced hepatotoxicity and its
Mechanism-Based Prevention. Drug Metabolism Reviews, 24(3) 367-
407 (1992).
(Acetaminophen is known as paracetamol in Europe)
I couldn't agree with you more about what an awful way to die a toxic
dose of acetaminophen causes. I've heard a number of descriptions by
physicians associated with poison control centers, and they describe a
lingering very painful death.
-Gary-
| 13sci.med |
I have a novell 2.0a that I will sell for $692 which can be upgraded to 3.11
for $460. The novell has complete documentation but no network cards except
the ID card.
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| 6misc.forsale |
To all those out there wondering about who holds the record for three
homer games ina career, the answer is Johnny Mize in his career with the
Cards and the Yanks. He hit three 6 times. I am almost sure about this. In
case anyone is wondering, the record for two homer games is held by Babe
Ruth and is 72. Mize's record may not last for much longer because of Juan
Gonzalez. He has at least three games with three and maybe 4. I know that
he had at least two last year and one as a rookie. I don't have any record
books at college for me to check on though. Please let me know, okay, if I
am wrong.
Onto the Padres. Is there anyone out there who follows them?- especial-ly those with access to local news? I don't here anything in Los Angeles and I
can't get McPaper consistently around here.
comment: It looks as though San Diego has gotten the better of the two deals
that brought Bell and Plantier to the Padres. It has also forced the team to use Darrell Shermann. Of course, Plantier could get injured again or he could
hit with the power of 91 but with a lower average. Bell always could finish
with .240 and 15-18 hrs-essentially Jerald Clark's numbers.
leadoff comment: Craig Shipley?????? I get on base 29% of the time if I'm
lucky at leadoff? Hell, of the usual starters, use Gwynn. He's got 4 steals
already. Is Shipley starting because of an injury to Stillwell, though? I
haven't seen Stillwell's name in any box scores. Anyway unless you are going
to use Shermann at leadoff then use Gwynn. He at lesat gets on base and this
year is stealing bases.
Sheffield comment: Though the season is early and stats mean nothing.
Witness Phillips batting .500+ currently. But does Sheffield have an injury,
or anythingelse wrong with him. I just don't hear anything.
Andy Benes: Is he pitching like he did in the second half of '91? or is
this a flash of promise that he throws out evrey now and then? Has anyone
seen him pitch the two good games?
score for today, Sunday april 18: Padres 10, St Louis 6. Padres sweep the
Cardinals as Gwynn goes 5 for 5 with a homer. Sheffield and Tueful also homer
in a winning cause.
Thanks for listening-reading
any comments????
Kelly Keach
kkeach@pomona.claremont.edu
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
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| 6misc.forsale |
In article <C5JLq3.2BL@wetware.com>, drieux@wetware.com writes...
>In article 23791@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu, ece_0028@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (David Anderson) writes:
>>In article <C56HDM.945@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>>>But I guess one needs to know a little about the bible,
>>>christianity and american history.....
>>
>>Mt. St. Helens didn't spew such crap. How do you manage,
>>drieux, day in & day out, to keep it up??
>
>So which are you advocating?
>That You know Nothing About American History,
>Or that You Know Nothing About the Bible?
>
>Is this a Restoration of the "Know Nothing" Party?
>
Go easy on him drieux. It is the right of every American to
know nothing about anything.
>ciao
>drieux
>"All Hands to the Big Sea of COMedy!
>All Hands to the Big Sea of COMedy!"
> -Last Call of the Wild of the Humour Lemmings
>
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| 18talk.politics.misc |
cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb) writes:
>Merely a question for the basis of morality
>Moral/Ethical behavior = _Societally_ _acceptable_ _behavior_.
>1)Who is society
Society is the collection of individuals which will fall under self-defined
rules. In terms of UN decisions all the sets of peoples who are represented
at the UN are considered part of that society. If we then look at US federal
laws provided by representatives of purely US citizens then the society for
that case would be the citizens of the US and so on.
>2)How do "they" define what is acceptable?
"Acceptable" are those behaviours which are either legislated for the
society by representatives of that society or those behaviours which are
non-verbally and, in effect, non-consciously, such as picking your nose on
the Oprah Winfrey show, no-one does it, but there is no explicit law against
doing it. In many cases there are is no definition of whether or not a
behaviour is "acceptable", but one can deduce these behaviours by
observation.
>3)How do we keep from a "whatever is legal is what is "moral" "position?
In an increasingly litigation mad society, this trap is becoming exceedingly
difficult to avoid. With the infusion and strengthening of ethnic cultures
in American (and Australian, to bring in my local perspective) culture the
boundaries of acceptable behaviour are ever widening and legislation may
eventually become the definition of moral behaviour. For instance, some
cultures' dominant religion call for live sacrifice of domesticated animals.
Most fundamental christians would find this practice abhorrent. However, is
it moral, according to the multicultural american society? This kind of
problem may only be definable by legislation.
Obviously within any society there will be differences in opinion in what is
acceptable behaviour or not, and much of this will be due to different
environmental circumstances rather than merely different opinions.
One thing is for sure, there is no universal moral code which will suit all
cultures in all situations. There may, however, be some globally accepted
mores which can be agreed upon and instantiated as a globally enforcable
concept. The majority of mores will not be common until all peoples upon
this earth are living in a similar environment (if that ever happens).
Jeff 'Nonickname' Clark.
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <matt-160493203627@wardibm2.med.yale.edu>, matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy) writes:
and
> bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev) wrote:
and
> > ahaley@eoe.co.uk (Andrew Haley) writes:
about Coca-Cola and Pepsi Cola and what they can teach us.
Surely, if we must use pop patent law examples to discuss RC2 and RC4,
it would make more sense to consider the case of RC Cola?
Jim Reeds
| 11sci.crypt |
The subject says it all. I bought Adobe Type Manager and find it completely
useless. I ftped some atm fonts and couldn't install them. What's the use?
Are you supposed to be able to convert ATM fonts to Truetype?
If there's anyone out there who has this program and actually finds it
useful, enlighten me!
Pete
| 1comp.graphics |
mserv@mozart.cc.iup.edu (Mail Server) writes:
>One thing I don't understand is why being sacred should make the
>temple rituals secret.
On of the attributes of being sacred in this case is that they
should not be spoken of in a "common manner" or "trampled under
feet" such as the Lords name is today. The ceremonies are
performed in the temple because the temple has been set aside
as being as sacred/holy/uncommon place. We believe that the
ceremonies can only be interpreted correctly when they
are viewed with the right spirit- which in this case is in the
temple. So from our point of view, when they are brought
out into the public, they are being trampled under feet,
because of misinterpretations and mocking, and it is therefore
offensive to us.
Please do not assume that because of my use of the words
'we' and 'our' that I'm an official spokesman for the LDS
church. I am merely stating what I believe is the general
feeling among us. Others feel free to disagree.
--
Steve Ward
saw8712@bcstec.ca.boeing.com
| 15soc.religion.christian |
After hearing about the McGovern House story on Paul Harvey I never had any
idea how much it was worth. The autograph is on a Senate Pass card
and is signed 'John Kennedy.' I don't remember if it was signed
'Senator John Kennedy' or whether or not it was dated, because I haven't
looked at it in quite a while. Currently it is in a safety deposit box.
I would rather sell to a private collector rather then go through an auction
house such as Christy's since that would tend to take away from the profit.
If you (or any collector you may know) has an interest in this please send
me an e-mail expressing your interest. I will see what I can do to make
a scanned gif of it available to prospective buyers.
| 6misc.forsale |
In article <795.2bcc3ee1@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> letizia@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>Do you mean just like Reds' fans? Have you listened to WLW anytime they open
>up the lines for fans to call? Talk about clueless idiots! The broadcasters
>are just as bad too.
>
>JL
The New York talk shows are just awful in this regard. People are constantly
calling WFAN and WABC with (stuff like) "I was thinking, why don't the Yankees
trade Kaminicki and Silvestri to Seattle for Ken Griffey Jr and Randy Johnson,
that would really help the team" or "Do you think the Yankees can get Roger
Clemens?". The show hosts are pretty good about handling these guys, but it's
still annoying.
The best one was at the end of one show, a caller started out with "I was
thinking, why don't the Yankees trade for..." and then the host hung up on
him. I cheered!
Michael
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
I'm a Solaris 2.1 user with a classic workstation.
I have compiled xfig 2.1.7 version with -DOPENWIN flag to use it with
openwindows, but when i run it, the program runs and runs and runs (15 minutes)
and never is ready to work with it. The labels are not completed and i can't
push any button.
I have no problem if i does not run the openwindows but X.
Any solution?
Thanks in advance and excuse for my english.
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E-mail: pacebes@cozuelos.tid.es
X.400 adress:
C=es;ADMD=mensatex;PRMD=iris;O=rediris;OU=relay;
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| 5comp.windows.x |
I'm not sure if you got the information you were looking for, so I'll
post it anyway for the general public. To load an image on your root
window add this line to the end of your .xsession file:
xloadimage -onroot -fullscreen <gif_file_name> &
This is assuming of course you have the xloadimage client, and as
for the switches, I think they pretty much explain what is going on.
If you leave out the <&>, the terminal locks till you kill it.
(You already knew that though...)
Hope this helps.
Daemon
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <1rjifg$bgm@hsdndev.harvard.edu>, rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (David Rind) writes:
> In article <1993Apr26.174538.1@vms.ocom.okstate.edu>
> banschbach@vms.ocom.okstate.edu writes:
>>oxygen(just like it does in the vagina). As much stuff as there is in the
>>lay press about L. acidophilus and vaginal yeast infections, I'm really
>>amazed that someone has not done a clinical trial yet to check it out.
>
> I've mentioned this study a couple of times now: Ingestion of yogurt
> containing Lactobacillus acidophilus as prophylaxis for candidal
> vaginitis, Annals of Internal Medicine, 3/1/92 116(5):353-7. Do you
> have a problem with the study because they used yogurt rather than
> capsules of lactobacillus (even though it had positive results)?
>
> The study was a crossover trial of daily ingestion of 8 ounces of
> yogurt. There was a marked decrease in infections while women were
> ingesting the yogurt. Problems with the study included very small
> numbers (33 patients enrolled) and many protocol violations (only
> 21 patients were analyzed). Still, the difference in rates of infection
> between the two groups was so large that the study remains fairly
> believable.
> --
> David Rind
David, this study looks like a good one. Gordon Rubenfeld did a Medline
search and also sent me the same reference through e-mail. Since
commercial yogurt does not always have a good Lactobacillus a. or
bulgaricus culture, a negative finding would not have been too informative.
This is often the reason why Lactobacillus acidophilus tablets are
recommended rather than yogurt.
I guess the next question is why would this introduction of "good" bacteria
back into the gut decrease the incidence of vaginal candida blooms if the
anus was not serving as a candida reservoir(a fact that Gordon R. vehementy
denys)? I see two possible theories. One, the L. acidophilus, which is a
facultatively anaerobic bacterium, could make it through the gut and
colonize the rectal area to overgrow the candida. This would not explain
the reoccurance of candida blooms in the vagina after the yogurt ingestion
was stopped though. The other is that the additional bacteria in the
intestinal tract remove most of the glucose from the feces and candida
looses it's major food source.
Getting Lactobacillus acidophilus to colonize the vaginal tract(where it is
normally found) would have a much better effect on the recurrance of vaginal
yeast blooms though. An acetic acid, Lactobacillus acidophilus douche has
been used to get this effect but I've not seen any such treatment reported in
the medical literature. This would be an example of physicians conducting
their own clinical trials to try to come up with treatments that help their
patients. When this is done in private practice, the results are rarely, if
ever published. It was the hallmark of medicine until the modern age
emerged with clinical trials. It really raises a big question. Does the
medical profession cast out the adventerous few who try new treatments to
help patients or does it look the other way.
This particular issue is really a very simple one since no real dangerous
therapy is involved(even the anti-fungals are not all that dangerous). But
there are some areas(like EDTA chelation therapy), where the fire is pretty
hot and somebody could get burned. It's really tough. Do I follow only
well established protocols and then give up if they don't work that well or
do it try something that looks like it will work but hasn't been proven to
work yet?
My stand is to consider other treatment possibilities, especially if they
involve little or no risk to the patient. Getting good bacteria back into
the gut after antibiotic treatment is one treatment possibility. The other
is getting L. acidophilus into the vaginal tract of a woman who is having a
problem with recurring yeast infections.
Marty B.
| 13sci.med |
In article <6208.442.uupcb@ozonehole.com> gerald.belton@ozonehole.com (
Gerald Belton) writes
>Subject: Need to find out numb
>Date: 20 Apr 93 12:18:00 GMT
>AL>There is a number you can call which will return a synthesized
>AL>voice telling you the number of the line. Unfortunately, for the
>AL>life of me I can't remember what it is. The telephone technicians
>AL>use it all the time. We used to play around with this in our
>AL>dorm rooms since there were multiple phone lines running between
>AL>rooms.
>
>It probably wouldn't help for you to post the number, since it appears
>to be different in each area. For what it's worth, in the New Orleans
>area the number is 998-877-6655 (easy to remember, what?)
>
>
> * SLMR 2.1 * Ask me anything: if I don't know, I'll make up something.
>
Here in our city, dialing either 940-7222 (newer exchanges) or 940-2222222 [
sic] will get a synthesized message. Works great for having people call you
back at unlabeled pay phones.
Regards,
Bill
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| 12sci.electronics |
Are there anyone who wants to sell used 386dx-33 motherboard?
If you have one please let me know the price and the specification
I am also interested in buying Trident VGA card (1Meg)
Park
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
(Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania)
______________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release April 17, 1993
INTERVIEW OF THE PRESIDENT
BY MICHAEL WHITELY OF
KDKA-AM RADIO, PITTSBURGH
Pittsburgh International Airport
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
10:40 A.M. EDT
Q For everyone listening on KDKA Radio, I'm Mike
Whitely, KDKA Radio News. We're here at the Pittsburgh
International Airport and with me is the President of the United
States Bill Clinton.
And I'd like to welcome you to the area and to KDKA.
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, Mike. Glad to be here.
Q There are a lot of things we'd like to talk
about in the brief amount of time we have, but some news is just
breaking from Los Angeles. I guess the entire country has been
kind of holding their breath, wondering what's going to happen in
the trial of the four Los Angeles police officers. We just heard
that two of those officers, the sergeant, Sergeant Koon and
Officer Powell have been found guilty, and two officers have been
found not guilty.
It's a situation that's been building for over a
year since the first trial and now this trial and this verdict.
And I wonder what your thoughts are this morning on how you see
the situation in Los Angeles in connection with your
administration and what you're trying to do.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, first of all, I think the
American people should know that this trial, in my judgment, is a
tribute to the work and judgment of the jury, as well as to the
efforts of the federal government in developing the case.
The law under which the officers were tried is a
complex one; the standards of proof are complicated. The jury
decided that they would convict the sergeant who was responsible
for supervising the officers and the officer who on the film did
most of the beating. The jury acquitted an officer who kicked
Rodney King, but also plainly tried to shield him from some
blows, and another officer who was a rookie.
No one knows exactly why they did what they did, but
it appears that they really tried to do justice here. They
acknowledged that his civil rights were violated. And I think
that the American people should take a lot of pride in that. But
I hope now we can begin to look ahead and focus on three things:
first of all, the importance of trying to bring this country
together and not violate the civil rights of any American;
secondly, the importance of renewing our fight against crime.
I think it's important to recognize that in the
poorest areas of Los Angeles and many other cities in this
country, people may be worried about police abuse, but they're
even more worried about crime. It's time that we renewed our
efforts to go to community policing -- put 100,000 more police
officers on the street; pass the Brady Bill that would require a
waiting period before people could buy a handgun, and do some
other things to reduce the vulnerability of our people to
violence and drugs.
And the last point I'd like to make is it seems to
me that we have got to rededicate ourselves to the economic
revitalization of our cities and other economically-distressed
areas. If you just think about it -- if everybody in Los Angeles
who wanted a job had one, I don't think we'd have quite as many
problems as we do.
And I laid out a very ambitious program in the
campaign to try to bring private investment and public investment
to bear in our cities. I have dispatched the Commerce Secretary,
Ron Brown, to California to try to come up with some strategies
for that state, because it's our biggest state with our highest
unemployment rate -- which could then be applied around the
country. I want to talk to him and to the Attorney General, to
the new head of the NAACP, to Reverend Jackson, and to several
other people, and then I'll decide where to go from here with
regard to Los Angeles and the other cities of the country.
Q Let's talk about what brings you to the
Pittsburgh area today. There have been -- I guess there's been a
lot of discussion on Capitol Hill about your stimulus package.
You've been locked in a battle with the GOP. Yesterday, as you
said earlier in your radio address, you made some moves to break
that gridlock. What brings you to Pittsburgh, in particular to
Allegheny County, in particular to Pennsylvania, with that
battle?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, there are two reasons. First
of all, Pittsburgh, Allegheny County and Pennsylvania supported
me in the last election because they wanted a new direction in
economic policy. We have passed our overall economic plan; it
gives the country a very different budget for the next five years
than we've had in the previous 12. We reduced the deficit and,
at the same time, increased investment in jobs and education and
health care, in the things that will make us a stronger country.
But in addition to that, I asked the Congress in the
short run to spend a little more money, a modest amount of money
to create another half-million jobs in the next year and a half;
to try to cut the unemployment rate by a half a percent; but also
to try to spark job creation in the private sector more. The
plan passed the House. It has the support of a majority of the
Senate. At the present time, all the Republican senators as a
bloc are filibustering the bill. That is, they won't let it come
to a vote.
I believe that Senator Specter would like to vote
for the bill. And I believe that Senator Dole, the Republican
leader, has put a lot of pressure on a lot of the Republicans to
stay hitched. And they're all saying that this bill increases
the deficit. It doesn't. This bill is well below the spending
targets that Congress approved, including the Republicans, for
this year. This bill is paid for by budget cuts in the next five
years. This bill is designed to give a jump-start to the
economy. And I must say, a lot of the Republican senators that
are holding it up, when Mr. Bush was President, voted for
billions of dollars of emergency spending of just this kind --
much of it was totally unrelated to creating jobs.
So what I'm trying to do is to break this logjam.
I've held out an olive branch, I've offered a compromise. But I
think that we ought to try to put some more Americans to work
right now to show that we're changing the direction of the
country. And that's the purpose of the bill.
Q Have you been in touch with Senator Specter or
his office lately?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, we've been trying to talk
regularly to -- through my White House Congressional Liaison
operation to the senators that we think are open to this --
Senator Specter, Senator D'Amato from New York, Senator Jeffords
from Vermont, Senator Hatfield from Oregon, and five or six
others whom we believe know we need more jobs in this economy and
know that we are paying for this with budget cuts over the life
of the budget I presented.
You know, it has a lot of appeal to say, well, we've
got a big deficit, we shouldn't increase it more. But the truth
is that we are paying for this with budget cuts in the whole life
of the budget over the next few years. And more importantly, we
have this program well below the spending targets that Congress
has already approved for this year. And they've done this for
years, with the Republicans voting for it -- many Republicans
voting for it -- for things that weren't nearly as important as
putting the American people back to work.
So I just hope that this doesn't become a political
issue. It ought to just be about the people of this country and
the need for jobs.
Q I have some questions from people who supported
you, and some people who are skeptical about your administration.
It has to do with their hopes, and also with their fears. A lot
of people who supported you and voted for you in Pennsylvania --I
think some of them are now saying, we're glad we got him in the
White House, but now look at this incredible process he has to go
through. Look at these problems. Look at this gridlock. And
they're beginning to wonder, is this going to work; can you pull
it off? And, of course, your skeptics are saying, well, I knew
it was going to be like this.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, what I would -- I'd ask
people, first of all, to remember that we are, frankly, moving
very fast. The budget resolution that the Congress passed is the
fastest they have ever passed a budget resolution -- ever -- in
history, setting out the next five-year budget targets. So we
are moving really rapidly. And we've got them working on
political reform, welfare reform, health care reform, a whole
wide range of things.
But it's a big operation. You can't expect to turn
it around overnight. It took 12 years to produce the conditions
which led to the victory I received from the people in November,
and we can't turn it around in 90 days. But I think we're making
real, real progress.
I would urge the people not to get discouraged.
We're not going to win every battle, and not everything is going
to happen overnight. But we are definitely moving and changing
things.
Q Thank you very much.
The President of the United States, Bill Clinton,
here live at Pittsburgh International Airport. I'm Mike Whitely,
KDKA News.
END10:31 A.M. EDT
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I've been playing with a centris 610 (8/230) for the last couple weeks. The only
problem that I have seen is that a couple of the applications I run are
incompatible with the 040's processor cache, so I have to run with it turned off.
Actually, the main thing I don't like it is that it doesn't have a software
powerup/powerdown, and the power switch is DIRECTLY UNDER THE FLOPPY DRIVE! (I
haven't hit it thinking it would eject the disk, but some tired night I'm going
to be really upset with that design decision.....)
In all, no problems with it. floppy and printing have been just fine. (printing
is done across a localtalk net, not a directly connected printer)
Bill
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Archive-name: Intel-Unix-X-faq
Last-modified: 30 Mar 1993
Note: This is a major re-organization (and replacement) of my
"Frequently Asked Questions About X386" FAQ list.
This article includes answers to:
I) What options do I have for X software on my Intel-based Unix system?
1. Free options
2. Commercial options
II) What is XFree86 and where do I get it?
3. What is XFree86?
4. What OSs are supported?
5. What video hardware is supported?
6. What about accelerated boards?
7. Why doesn't XFree86 support 16-color VGA modes?
8. What other hardware or software requirements are there?
9. Where can I get source for XFree86?
10. Where can I get binaries for XFree86?
IV) What general things should I know about running XFree86?
11. Installation directories
12. Configuration files
13. Determining VGA dot clocks and monitor modes
14. Rebuilding/reconfiguring the server from the link kit
V) What OS-specific things should I know about running XFree86?
15. SVR4
16. SVR3
17. 386BSD
18. Linux
19. Mach
VI) What things should I know for building XFree86 from source?
VII) Is there anything special about building clients with XFree86?
20. BSD compatibility library
21. ANSICCOPTIONS
This article does NOT include answers to general X questions, since these
are already covered by the X FAQ that is regularly posted by David B. Lewis
<faq%craft@uunet.uu.net>.
If you have anything to add or change on the FAQ just let me know.
(especially if you had a problem that someone else was able to help you with)
Send changes to steve@ecf.toronto.edu, please put 'FAQ' somewhere
in the subject line so that my mail filter will put it in the correct
mail folder.
Please DO NOT ask me questions that are not answered in the FAQ. I do not
have time to respond to these individually. Instead, post your question
to the net, and send me the question and answer together when you get it.
Frequently Asked Questions About X on Intel-based Unix (with answers)
=====================================================================
I) What options do I have for X software on my Intel-based Unix system?
1. Free options
The BEST option is XFree86, which is an enhanced version of X386 1.2.
Any other version of X386 will have slower performance, and will
be more difficult to compile. Information on how to obtain XFree86
is listed below.
X386 is the port of the X11 server to System V/386 that was
done by Thomas Roell (roell@sgcs.com).
It supports a wide variety of SVGA boards.
There are 2 major free versions: X386 1.1 is based on X11R4,
X386 1.2 is included in MIT's X11R5 distribution (ie. you
don't need to patch it into the MIT source any more).
X386 1.3 is the current commercial offering from SGCS (see below).
2. Commercial options
1) Metro Link
2213 W. McNab Road
Pompano Beach, FL 33069
(305) 970-7353
Fax: (305) 970-7351
email: sales@metrolink.com
Summary: OS: QNX, SVR3, SVR4.[012], SCO, UnixWare, LynxOS,
DESQview/X, Venix, ISC, Solaris, Pyramid, SunOS
HW: EGA, VGA, SVGA, TIGA, TARGA, 8514/A, Mach,
S3, WD, Fujistu, Matrox, Microfield Graphics, R33020
Other: Motif, OpenLook/XView, XIE Imaging Extension,
Xv Video Extension, Audio Drivers, Multi Media
2) SGCS (Snitily Graphics Consulting Services)
894 Brookgrove Lane
Cupertino, CA 95014
(800) 645-5501, (408) 255-9665
Fax: (408) 255-9740
email: info@sgcs.com or ...!mips!zok!info
Summary: OS: SVR3.2, SVR4
HW: 8514/A (ATI Ultra), S3 (Diamond Stealth), SVGA
Other: Motif, Dual-headed server
3) Consensys Corporation
1301 Pat Booker Rd.
Universal City, TX 78148
Phone: 1-800-388-1896
FAX: 1-416-940-2903
email: info@consensys.com
Summary: OS: Consensys V4.2, Consensys' version of
Unix System V Release 4.2
HW: X11R4 server support for VGA, SVGA
Other: MoOLIT, Motif, X11R5 Clients
4) The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
p.o. box 1900
Santa Cruz, California 95061
(408) 425 7222, (800) SCO UNIX,
FAX: (408) 458 4227
email: info@sco.com
Summary: OS: ODT 1.1, ODT 2.0, SCO Unix 3.2v4
HW: X11R4 server support for SVGA, 8514/A, S3, TMS340x0,
WD90C31, XGA2, assorted local bus (see SCO Hardware
Compatabilty Guide for actual card vendors).
Other: Motif
5) Answer Software & Consulting
p.o. box 14171
Columbus, Ohio 43214
614-263-XLAB
email: sales@x4coher.com
Summary: OS: Coherent 4.0.1r72 or greater
HW: works with any VESA compliant video
NOTE: Other commercial vendors (including OS vendors describing
bundled software) are welcome to submit summary information
summary information such as the above.
II) What is XFree86 and where do I get it?
3. What is XFree86?
XFree86 is an enhanced version of X386 1.2, which was distributed with
X11R5. This release consists of many bug fixes, speed improvements, and
other enhancements. Here are the highlights of the enhancements:
1) The SpeedUp package from Glenn Lai is an integral part of XFree86,
selectable at run-time via the Xconfig file. Some SpeedUps require
an ET4000 based SVGA, and others require a virtual screen width of
1024. The SpeedUps suitable to the configuration are selected by
default. With a high-quality ET4000 board (VRAM), this can yield
up to 40% improvement of the xStones benchmark over X386 1.2.
2) The fX386 packages from Jim Tsillas are included as the default
operating mode if SpeedUp is not selected. This mode is now
equivalent in performance to X386 1.1b (X11R4), and approximately
20% faster than X386 1.2.
3) Support for LOCALCONN, compile-time selectable for server, clients,
or both. This support is for both SVR3.2 and SVR4. For SVR4.0.4
with the 'Advanced Compatibility Package', local connections from
SCO XSight/ODT clients are supported.
4) Drivers for ATI and Trident TVGA8900C and TVGA9000 SVGA chipsets.
Refer to the files README.ati and README.trident for details about
the ATI and Trident drivers.
5) Support for compressed bitmap fonts has been added (Thomas Eberhardt's
code from the contrib directory on export.lcs.mit.edu).
6) Type1 Font code from MIT contrib tape has been included, and is
compile-time selectable. There are contributed Type1 fonts in the
contrib directory on export.lcs.mit.edu.
7) New configuration method which allows the server's drivers and font
renderers to be reconfigured from both source and binary
distributions.
8) Integrated support for 386BSD, Mach, and Linux.
9) A monochrome version of the server which will run on generic VGA
cards is now included.
The following key features were added with the release of XFree86 1.2
(they were not in XFree86 1.1):
1) The monochrome server has been enhanced to do bank-switching of
available SVGA memory to allow virtual screens up to 1600x1200
(see the X386(1) manual page for more information).
2) Support for the Hercules mono card has been added to the
monochrome server, and with it the ability to support a "two
headed" server - one VGA, and one Hercules. So far this has only
been tested on SVR4 (it is also reported to work under Linux).
3) SVR3 shared libraries, tested under ISC SVR3 2.2 and 3.0.1.
4) Support for SVR4.2 (There are some special considerations to
consider, due to new USL bugs; see the README.SVR4 file for
more information.)
5) Support for PS/2 mice, and Logitech MouseMan/TrackMan (some
versions of these devices were not previously compatible).
6) A new tutorial on how to develop correct video card and monitor
timing data, written by Eric Raymond (derived from previous
documentation and a lot of experimentation).
7) Greatly improved support for international keyboards, including
implementation of the Compose key functionality found on many
vendor servers (see the X386keybd(1) manual page for more
information).
8) The accuracy with which the server detects SVGA pixel clocks has
been improved, and the timings are now stored at accuracies of
0.1 MHz. Users may want to consider removing an existing Clocks
line from their Xconfig file and re-probing using the new server.
9) Many enhancements in error handling and parsing of the Xconfig
configuration file. Error messages are much more informative
and intuitive, and more validation is done. There are many new
options that can be enabled in the Xconfig file (see the X386(1)
manual page for more information on the format of this file).
Plus a number of other small things. Refer to the CHANGELOG file
in the source distribution for full details.
Also included are a tutorial on monitor timing by Eric Raymond, and the
current X386 mode database and a sample xdm configuration by David Wexelblat.
4. What OSs are supported?
XFree86 supports:
SVR4.2: Consensys V4.2
SVR4.0: Microport, Dell, Esix, ISC, AT&T, MST, Consensys, UHC
SVR3: ISC 2.2 & 3.0, AT&T 2.2
Linux, Mach 386, 386BSD 0.1
BSD/386 is not supported, but it should work. The most active
BSD/386 person is Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.de>.
Note that Esix 3.2D and SCO are not supported yet,
but anyone should feel free to submit patches.
If you are interested in tackling this, send mail to
xfree86@physics.su.oz.au
5. What video hardware is supported?
At this time, XFree86 1.2 supports the following SVGA chipsets:
Tseng ET4000
Tseng ET3000
Paradise PVGA1
Western Digital WD90C00, WD90C10, WD90C11 (these are supersets of
the PVGA1, and use its driver)
Genoa GVGA
Trident TVGA8900C, TVGA9000
ATI 18800, 28800
All of the above are supported in both 256 color and monochrome modes,
with the exception of the ATI chipsets, which are only supported in
256 color mode.
The monochrome server also supports generic VGA cards, using 64k of
video memory in a single bank, and the Hercules card. On the
ET3000, only 64k of video memory is supported for the monochrome
server, and the GVGA has not been tested with more than 64k.
It appears that some of the SVGA card manufacturers are going to
non-traditional mechanisms for selecting pixel-clock frequencies. To
avoid having to modify the server to accommodate these schemes XFree86
1.2 adds support for using an external program to select the pixel
clock. This allows programs to be written as new mechanisms are
discovered. Refer to the README.clkprog file for information on how
these programs work, if you need to write one. If you do develop such
a program, the XFree86 team would be interested in including it with
future XFree86 releases.
If you are purchasing new hardware for the purpose of using XFree86,
it is suggested that you purchase an ET4000-based board such as the
Orchid ProDesigner IIs. Avoid recent Diamond boards; XFree86 will not
work with them, because Diamond won't provide programming details.
In fact, the XFree86 project is actively not supporting new Diamond
products, as long as such policies remain in effect. Contributions
of code will NOT be accepted (because of the potential liabilities).
If you would like to see this change, tell Diamond about it.
Some people have asked if XFree86 would work with local bus or EISA
video cards. Theoretically, the means of communication between the
CPU and the video card is irrelevant to Xfree86 compatibility. It
could be ISA, EISA, or local bus. What should matter is the chipset
on the video card. Unfortunately, the developers don't have a lot
of access to EISA or VLB machines, so this is largely an untested
theory. However, we have yet to see any reports of things not
working on one of these buses and we have several reports of Xfree86
working fine on them.
6. What about accelerated boards?
At this time, there is no support in XFree86 for accelerated boards
like the S3, ATI Ultra (8514/A), TIGA, etc. This support is available
in commercial products from SGCS and MetroLink (for SVR3 and SVR4).
An S3 server is available for 386BSD and Linux. Contact
<hasty@netcom.com> for 386BSD or <jon@robots.ox.ac.uk> for Linux.
A beta 8514/A server is available for Linux. Contact <martin@cs.unc.edu>
or <jon@robots.ox.ac.uk>. Note: these servers are NOT part of XFree86.
7. Why doesn't XFree86 support 16-color VGA modes?
The reason that this is not supported is the way VGA implements the
16-color modes. In 256-color modes, each byte of frame buffer memory
contains 1 pixel. But the 16-color modes are implemented as bit-
planes. Each byte of frame- buffer memory contains 1 bit from each
of each of 8 pixels, and there are four such planes. The MIT frame-
buffer code is not designed to deal with this. If VGA handled
16-color modes by packing 2 4-bit pixels into each byte, the MIT code
could be modified to support this (or it already may; I'm not sure).
But for the VGA way of doing things, a complete new frame-buffer
implementation is required. Some beta testers are looking into this,
but nothing is yet available from the project.
8. What other hardware or software requirements are there?
Obviously, a supported SVGA board and OS are required. To run
X efficiently, 12-16MB of memory should be considered a minimum.
The various binary releases take 10-40MB of disk space, depending
on the OS (e.g. whether or not it supports shared libraries).
To build from sources, at least 80MB of free disk space will
be required, although 120MB should be considered a comfortable
lower bound.
9. Where can I get source for XFree86?
Source patches for the current version (1.2, based on X11R5 PL22
from MIT), are available via anonymous FTP from:
export.lcs.mit.edu (under /contrib/XFree86)
ftp.physics.su.oz.au (under /XFree86)
ftp.win.tue.nl (under /pub/XFree86)
(For the rest of this FAQ, these 3 location will be called $FTP)
Refer to the README file under the specified directory for information
on which files you need to get to build your distribution.
10. Where can I get binaries for XFree86?
Binaries are available via anonymous FTP from:
ftp.physics.su.oz.au - SVR4 binaries
under /XFree86/SVR4
ftp.win.tue.nl - SVR4 binaries
under /pub/XFree86/SVR4
ferkel.ucsb.edu - SVR4 binaries
under /pub/SVR4/XFree86
stasi.bradley.edu - SVR4 binaries
under /pub/XFree86/SVR4
blancmange.ma.utexas.edu - SVR3 (ISC) binaries
under /pub/ISC
ftp.prz.tu-berlin.de - SVR3 (ISC) binaries
under /pub/pc/isc/XFree86
tsx-11.mit.edu - Linux binaries
under /pub/linux/packages/X11
agate.berkeley.edu - 386BSD binaries
under /pub/386BSD/0.1-ports/XFree86
ftp.cs.uwm.edu - Mach binaries
under /i386
Ensure that you are getting XFree86 1.2 - some of these sites may
archive older releases as well. Each binary distribution will
contain a README file that describes what files you need to take
from the archive, and which compile-time option selections were
made when building the distribution.
IV) What general things should I know about running XFree86?
11. Installation directories
The top-level installation directory is specified by the ProjectRoot
(/usr/X386, by default) variable in config/site.def. Binaries, include
files, and libraries are installed in $ProjectRoot/{bin,include,lib}.
This can be changed when rebuilding from sources, and can be modified
via symbolic links for those OSs that support them. This directory is
nonstandard, and was chosen this way to allow XFree86 to be installed
alongside a commercial/vendor-supplied X implementation.
12. Configuration files
The XFree86 server reads a configuration file ("Xconfig") on startup.
The search path, contents and syntax for this file are documented in
the server manpage, which should be consulted before asking questions.
13. Determining VGA dot clocks and monitor modes
David E Wexelblat (dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com) maintains a database of known
clock settings for VGA cards and monitor settings.
The database is installed in /usr/X386/lib/X11/etc/modeDB.txt, and
is in the source tree under mit/server/ddx/x386/etc. This database is
also available from him (for the latest copy), and is kept on
export.lcs.mit.edu in ~/contrib/X386.modeDB.Z, which is updated
occasionally. Obtain a copy of this database. It just might have the
settings you need. If you create new settings, please send them to
David for inclusion in the database.
If this doesn't help you, the VideoModes.doc (by Eric Raymond) file
with XFree86 contains tutorials on how to come up with these timings.
It may be helpful to start with settings that almost work, and use
this description to get them right. When you do, send the information
to David Wexelblat for inclusion in the database.
NOTE: The old 'clock.exe' program is not supported any more, and
is completely unnecessary. If you need to determine dot
clock values for a new board, remove the 'Clocks' line from
your Xconfig file (if present), and start the server. The
server will probe for clocks itself and print them out.
You can use these values to put a 'Clocks' line into your
Xconfig file, which is not necessary, but will speed up
starting the server in the future.
14. Rebuilding/reconfiguring the server from the link kit
If you have installed the server Binary Link Kit, it is possible to
reconfigure the drivers and font renderers in the server. This is
fully explained in the README file that is available with the link kit.
V) What OS-specific things should I know about running XFree86?
First of all, the server must be installed suid-root (mode 4755).
15. SVR4
Why won't my xterm run properly?
If your kernel is not built with the consem module, you should define
CONSEM=no in you environment. Otherwise xterm won't run.
csh users should use 'setenv CONSEM no'
The Esix console driver patch 403019 is known to cause keymapping
problems with XFree86. It recommended that this patch not be
installed. Alternatively they keymap can be fixed with xmodmap.
16. SVR3
Make sure you look at $FTP/README.ISC, if that's what you are running.
17. 386BSD
Make sure you look at $FTP/README.386BSD.
Also, a separate 386BSD FAQ is maintained by Richard Murphey
<Rich@Rice.edu>. The latest version should be available in the
file XFree86-1.2-386BSD-FAQ at the following ftp sites:
agate.berkeley.edu:/pub/386BSD/0.1-ports/XFree86-1.2
wuarchive.wustl.edu:/mirrors4/386bsd/0.1-ports/XFree86-1.2
grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr:pub/386BSD/0.1-ports/XFree86-1.2
18. Linux
You must be running Linux 0.97pl4 or greater, and have the 4.1 gcc
jump libraries installed.
Make sure the binaries X386, X386mono, xload and xterm are setuid root.
If your kernel doesn't have TCP support compiled in, you'll have to
run the server as "X -pn". The default startup configuration assumes
that TCP is not available. If it is, change the two files
/usr/X386/bin/startx and /usr/X386/lib/X11/xdm/Xservers, removing the
-pn argument to X386.
Make sure /dev/console is either a link to /dev/tty0 or has the major
number 4, minor number 0. Also note that if /dev/console is not
owned by the user running X, then xconsole and xterm will not permit
console output redirection. Xdm will properly change the owner, but
startx won't.
When running xdm from rc.local, you will need to provide it with
a tty, for example "xdm < /dev/console &".
For more detailed information, please read the file README present
with the distribution on tsx-11.mit.edu.
19. Mach
Make sure you look at $FTP/README.Mach.
VI) What things should I know for building XFree86 from source?
This section has been removed from the FAQ, since it is
fully explained in $FTP/README and the OS-specific READMEs.
Please look at those files for information on building XFree86.
VII) Is there anything special about building clients with XFree86?
20. BSD compatibility library
A lot of clients make use of BSD functions like bcopy(), etc.
The default configuration files are set up to link with libXbsd.a
which contains emulation for bcopy(), bzero(), bcmp(), ffs(), random(),
seed(). A better way of providing the 'b' functions is to include
<X11/Xfuncs.h> in source files that call them. Xfuncs.h provides macro
definitions for these in terms of the SYSV 'mem' functions. If you are
linking with a vendor supplied library which calls some of these
functions, then you should link with libXbsd.a
21. ANSICCOPTIONS
This is something that was added to allow a developer to get rid of the
ANSI-ness defined in the default CCOPTIONS without having to rewrite
the entire CCOPTIONS line. For example, with stock MIT, you'd see
something like
CCOPTIONS="-ansi -O2 -fwritable-strings"
and to get rid of the ANSI-ness, the developer would have to put
CCOPTIONS="-O2 -fwritable-strings"
in his Imakefile. With this change, you would see a default of
ANSICCOPTIONS="-ansi"
CCOPTIONS="-O2 -fwritable-strings"
and all the developer would have to put in the Imakefile is:
ANSICCOPTIONS=
to get rid of the ANSI-ness (many X clients will die a horrible death
with -ansi). The effect is even more dramatic in practice, because
CCOPTIONS is actually quite complex. The other issue is that one must
add 'ANSICCOPTIONS=$(ANSICCOPTIONS)' to a PassCDebugFlags definition.
XFree86 Contact Information
Ongoing development planning and support is coordinated by the XFree86
Core Team. At this time the Core Team consists of:
The original "gang of four":
David Dawes <dawes@physics.su.oz.au>
Glenn Lai <glenn@cs.utexas.edu>
Jim Tsillas <jtsilla@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu>
David Wexelblat <dwex@mtgzfs3.att.com>
Those supporting non-SYSV operating systems:
Robert Baron <Robert.Baron@ernst.mach.cs.cmu.edu> [Mach]
Rich Murphey <Rich@Rice.edu> [386BSD]
Orest Zborowski <obz@kodak.com> [Linux]
e-mail sent to <xfree86@physics.su.oz.au> will reach all of the core team.
--------------------------------------------------
Thanks to all the people who already sent me corrections or additions,
especially David Wexelblat (one of the major contributors of updates).
--
Steve Kotsopoulos P.Eng. mail: steve@ecf.toronto.edu
Systems Analyst bitnet: steve@ecf.UTORONTO.BITNET
Engineering Computing Facility uucp: uunet!utai!ecf!steve
University of Toronto phone: (416) 978-5898
| 5comp.windows.x |
Hi,
I just disassembled my old XT and get 2 disk drives - 30M hard drive and a
360K floppy drive. My questions are:
-can I use these 2 drives as drives D & E on my 386SX25 ? This 386SX25
currently has 80M hard drive, 1.2M & 1.44M floppy drives.
-if I can, what s/w or h/w do I need ?
Please send your advice/comments to aovai@qube.ocunix.on.ca
Thanks a lot,
AV
-- Via DLG Pro v0.995
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1993Apr19.155856.8260@kpc.com> henrik@quayle.kpc.com writes:
>Let me clearify Mr. Turkish;
>ARMENIA is NOT getting "itchy". SHE is simply LETTING the WORLD KNOW that
>SHE WILL NO LONGER sit there QUIET and LET TURKS get away with their FAMOUS
>tricks. Armenians DO REMEMBER of the TURKISH invasion of the Greek island of
>CYPRESS WHILE the world simply WATCHED.
And the 'Turkish Karabag' is next. As for 'Cyprus', In 1974, Turkiye
stepped into Cyprus to preserve the lives of the Turkish population
there. This is nothing but a simple historical fact. Unfortunately,
the intervention was too late at least for some of the victims. Mass
graves containing numerous bodies of women and children already showed
what fate had been planned for a peaceful minority.
The problems in Cyprus have their origin in decades of
oppression of the Turkish population by the Greek Cypriot
officials and their violation of the co-founder status of
the Turks set out in the constitution. The coup d'etat
engineered by Greece in 1974 to execute a final solution
to the Turkish problem was the savage blow that invoked
Turkiye's intervention. Turkiye intervened reluctantly and
only as a last resort after exhausting all other avenues
consulting with Britain and Greece as the other two signatories
to the treaty to protect the integrity of Cyprus. There simply
was not any expansionist motivation in the Turkish action at
all. This is in dramatic contrast to the Greek motivation which
was openly expansionist, stated as 'Enosis,' union with Greece.
Since the creation of independent Cyprus in 1960, the Turkish
population, although smaller, legally had status as the co-founder
of the republic with the Greek population.
The Greek Cypriots, with the support of 'Enosis'-minded
Greeks in the mainland, have consistently ignored that
status and portrayed the Island as a Greek island with
a minority population of Turks. The Turks of Cyprus are
not a minority in a Greek Republic and they found the
only way they could show that was to assert their
autonomy in a separate republic.
Turkiye is not satisfied with the status quo. She would
rather not be involved with the island. But, given the
dismal record of brutal Greek oppression of the Turkish
population in Cyprus, she simply cannot leave the fate
of the island's Turks in the hands of the Greeks until
the Turkish side is satisfied with whatever accord
the two communities finally reach to guarantee that
history will not repeat itself to rob Turkish Cypriots
of their rights, liberties and their very lives.
Source: 'Cyprus: The Tale Of An Island,' A. H. Rizvi, p. 42
21-12-1963 Throughout Cyprus
"Following the Greek Cypriot premeditated onslaught of 21 December,
1963, the Turkish Sectors all over Cyprus were completely besieged
by Greeks; all telephonic, telegraphic and postal communications
between these sectors were cut off and the Turkish Cypriot
Community's contact with each other and with the outside world
was thus prevented."
21-12-63 -- 31-12-63 Turkish Quarter of Nicosia and suburbs
"Greek Cypriot armed elements broke into hundreds of Turkish
homes and fired at the unarmed occupants with automatic
weapons killing at random many Turks, including women, children
and elderly persons (51 Turks were killed and 82 wounded). They
also carried away as hostages more than 700 Turks, including
women and children, whom they forced to walk bare-footed and
in night-dresses across rough fields and river beds."
21-12-63 -- 12-12-64 Throughout Cyprus
"The Greek Cypriot Administration deprived Turkish Cypriots
including Ministers, MPs, and Turkish members of the Public
services of the republic, of their right to freedom of movement."
In his report No. S/6102 of 12 December, 1964 to the Security
Council, the UN Secretary-General stated in this respect the
following:
"Restrictions on the free movement of civilians have been one of
the major features of the situation in Cyprus since the early
stages of the disturbances, these restrictions have inflicted
considerable hardship on the population, especially the Turkish
Cypriot Community, and have kept tension high."
25-9-1964 -- 31-3-1968 Throughout Cyprus
"Supply of petrol was completely denied to the Turkish sections."
Makarios Addresses UN Security Council On 19 July 1974
After being Ousted by the Greek Junta Coup
"In the beginning I wish to express my sincere thanks to all the
members of the Security Council for the great interest they have
shown in the critical situation which has been created in Cyprus
after the coup organized by the military regime in Greece and
carried out by the Greek army officers who were serving in the
National Guard and were commanding it.
[..]
13-3-1975 On the road travelling to the South to the freedom of
the North
"A Turkish woman was seriously wounded and her four-month old
baby was riddled with bullets from an automatic weapon fired by
a Greek Cypriot mobile patrol which had ambushed the car in which
the mother and her baby were travelling to the Turkish region.
The baby died in her mother's arms.
This wanton murder of a four-month-old baby, which shocked foreign
observers as much as the Turkish Community, was not committed by
irresponsible persons, but by members of the Greek Cypriot security
forces. According to the mother's statement the Greek police patrol
had chased their car and deliberately fired upon it."
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Three q's:
1) is it reliable?
2) how does it send the information from a MS Windows app over
the X11 protocol? Does it just draw everything as graphics into
one window, or does it use multiple windows and essentially work
more cleverly?
3) If I want to run MS Word, for example, remotely, do I have to
run a separate copy of MS Windows remotely, and then start MS
Word from that, or can MS Word be started remotely on its own?
Thanks a lot!
-- Ethan
| 5comp.windows.x |
With regard to your speculations on NSA involvement in the creation of
PKP, I find that it fails the test of Occam's butcher knife. Never
attribute to conspiracy what can be explained by forthright greed.
Hilarie Orman
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <20756.2bd16dea@ecs.umass.edu> alee@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>
>Greetings!
>
> Situation: I have a phone jack mounted on a wall. I don't
> know the number of the line. And I don't want
> to call up the operator to place a trace on it.
>
> Question: Is there a certain device out there that I can
> use to find out the number to the line?
Call a friend long distance, collect. Ask to speak with yourself. When
the operator asks for you, you won't be there, so ask the operator to leave
your number. She'll read it out in the clear.
--scott
| 12sci.electronics |
Apparently, the public workers' strike in St John's, Newfoundland is over.
The strike has, since mid-January, forced the St John's Maple Leafs hockey
team to play their home games in other cities such as Toronto, Cornwall
and Charlottetown. They have been playing their playoff home games
in Halifax, Nova Scotia. Leafs' management said that they COULD
return to St John's for the second round.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Bri Farenell farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu +
+ AHL, ECAC and Boston Bruins contact for rec.sport.hockey +
+ Adirondack Red Wings, Calder Cup Champs: '81 '86 '89 '92 +
+ Clarkson Hockey, ECAC Tournament Champs: '66 '91 '93 +
+ Glens Falls High Hockey, NY Division II State Champs: '90 '91 +
+ AHL fans: join the AHL mailing list: ahl-news-request@andrew.cmu.edu +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Hi to all you PC gurus!
I'm new to these groups and so please forgive me if my questions are frequently
asked, but I don't know the answer :) I've been recently having some problems
with my 386 computer with a Seagate 40 meg hard drive. I occasionally find
corrupted files, but most of the time programs work fine. Are there any utilities
that are easily available that can help me determine whether or not the problem
is a result of the hard drive vs an ill-behaved program or some other hardware
item? Are there utilites to determine whether or not the hard drive is properly
aligned etc? As might be expected, I would greatly appreciate any help on this
matter. I'm considering just reformatting the disk and reinstalling everything
(and hoping that will fix the problem), but I would like to have some assurance
of what the problem cause is.
Also, can someone give me an opinion on DOS 6.0? Are the compression and
defragmentation routines good enough to consider the upgrade if I don't have
those routines already (as opposed to buying them separately)?
Much thanks in advance for any help.
Mitchel Soltys
soltys@radonc.unc.edu
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
Misc. Items for sale:
Walkman: Aiwa Model HS-T30, 1 year old, mint condition, hardly used,
autoreverse, 3 band Equalizer, Super Bass, Dolby Noise Reduction,
AM FM tuner..........Paid $70.......Asking $40+shipping.
Mount Plate: Sony Model CPM-203P, mounting plate for Sony portable CD players
for Portable: plugs into car lighter, snaps onto the bottom of any Sony
CD Player: Portable CD player, perfect condition. Will also throw in a
cassette adapter in SO SO condition.
Paid $45...............Asking $30+shipping.
AM FM: Factory Stereo from Toyota with AM FM radio, autoreverse cassette
Cassette: deck, digital tuning, like new condition only in car 6 months,
Car Stereo: Asking $60+shipping.
Car Speakers: Sherwood 5 1/4" two way car speakers, in car for 7 months,
5 1/4 inch: excellent condition, Paid $65............Asking $40+shipping.
4 inch: Factory Speakers from Toyota excellent condition
Asking $20+shipping.
Nintendo: Nintendo Game Boy, Light Boy, Tetris, Super Mario Land,
Gameboy: NFL Football, Castlevania Adventure, Hyper Lode Runner, 4 years
+ games: old all in working condition, Asking $70+shipping.
Accessories:
Whole Internet: The Whole Internet: User's Guide and Catalog by ED Krol,
book: guide to using the internet, where to fing information and
resources. Paid $30..........Asking $20+shipping.
MicroSoft: Never Used, came with my computer, Asking $ 60+shipping.
Visual Basic:
MicroSoft: For Windows, never used, came with my computer,
Quick C: Sells new Student edition for $95............Asking $70+shipping.
Please resond to fields@cis.ohio-state.edu
Thanks,
Jonathan D. Fields
| 6misc.forsale |
mserv@mozart.cc.iup.edu (Mail Server) writes:
>saw8712@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Steve A. Ward) writes:
>>dan@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>[Dan's question about Mormon Temple rituals deleted for brevity]
>>
>>Just thought I would interject this, and I believe you Dan when you say
>>that you don't mean to offend: For us LDS temple goers, the temple
>>ceremonies are very sacred. So much so that anyone who goes there
>>promises never to divulge them. So how much can you trust someone
>>who is telling you about the cerermony?
>One thing I don't understand is why being sacred should make the
>temple rituals secret. There are lots of sacred things in
>Christianity, including the Sacred Scriptures themselves, but there is
>nothing secret about these things.
Is it appropriate for the Lord not to reveal certain
things before the world (i.e., publish them widely)?
These things sacred to Himself. He may place any
pre- or post-conditions He feels are necessary.
Moreover, there are precedents in scripture where
knowledge of sacred things is withheld:
1. After the Transfiguration Jesus instructed
Peter, James, and John to "tell the vision to no
man, until the Son of man be risen again from
the dead" (Matt. 17:9).
If we were living at the time of Savior, there
would be no (public) record of this event.
2. A faithful friend of Paul experiences a vision
of "paradise" when he "heard unspeakable words,
which it is not lawful for a man to utter"
(2 Cor. 12:4).
This person heard something which Paul can not
write to the Corinthians (and us).
3. There is an incident recorded in the Book of
Mormon where words uttered by "babes" were
"forbidden that there should not any man write
them (3 Nephi 26:16, the entire text follows
for those of you without access to the BOM).
3 Nephi 26:16
Behold, it came to pass on the morrow that the
multitude gathered themselves together, and they
both saw and heard these children; yea, even
babes did open their mouths and utter marvelous
things; and the things which they did utter were
forbidden that there should not any man write them.
Some LDS scholars speculate that these words
which could not be written are the sacred
portions from temple we are to withhold from
the world (but it could be something else).
>I
>can understand why Mormons would limit temple access to only faithful
>Mormons, but I have never understood the emphasis on shrouding temple
>ritual in mystery.
There is much we can discuss about the temple
ordinances. We can discuss regarding baptisms
and other vicarious ordinances for the dead.
We can discuss certain concepts regarding the
endowment ("the ritual").
However, there are certain elements I can not
discuss with anyone (including other saints)
outside of the temple.
As a portion of the endowment, we receive the
tokens and signs that will permit us access
to Heaven. I must keep this knowledge sacred
and respect the conditions under which it is
revealed to me.
A IDLER
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1qun1aINNik5@aludra.usc.edu> sgoldste@aludra.usc.edu (Fogbound Child) writes:
>arf@genesis.MCS.COM (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>
>
>>
>> Yigal et al, sue ADL
>>
>
>Why do you title this "News you will miss" ?
>
>There have been at least three front-page stories on it in the L.A. Times.
>
>I wouldn't exactly call that a media cover-up.
This may come as a surprise to you but there are a few americans who do not
read the LA Times.
The Defamation League has done a first class job of damage control..in what
little is left of the world outside of LA.
js
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Kevin L. Stamber writes:
>If there's anyone who can help me on these items, please
>let me know.
>
>* Markus Naslund -- I saw that MoDo lost early in the National
> tournament and that he was playing for the national
> team at the World Championships. Any stats
> available? Any word on how he's playing? When
> is he expected to join the club?
>
Markus had a good season in MoDo in the Swedish elite league, scoring
22 goals, 17 assists, 39 points and 67 PIM in 39 games.
As Daryl points out, Markus won't be joining the Pens for this year's
playoffs, since the World Championships starts April 18th.
But there is a good chance that Markus will join the Pens before next
season. MoDo, though, naturally wants to keep their superstars Forsberg
and Naslund, so the latest news on this is that MoDo is looking for
personal sponsors for Forsberg and Naslund in order to match the kind
of money they would receive in NHL.
Daryl Turner writes:
>By 'the club', I would assume you mean the Pens. Don't hold your breath,
>you aren't going to see Naslund this year. The World Championship
>Tournament doesn't start until 18 April. So NHL teams won't see any
>influx of Europeans, and no team playing in the WC will see a sudden
>influx of 'eliminated' NHLers. The earliest a player on a playoff bound
>team could join a WC-team is the last game of the round robin, and I
>doubt any coach is going to want to play short one player for that long.
Actually, Swedish coach Curt Lundmark is thinking about leaving two
spots open for additions from eliminated NHLers. It is Mats Sundin and
Calle Johansson that Curt hopes can join the team, although in a late
stage of the tournament. Technically, I seem to recall that you can leave
spots open until 24 hrs before the WC final.
Staffan
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\\ //|| etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se
\\_))//-|| r.s.h. contact for Swedish hockey
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
I have a peculiar color problem with MacX, Apple's Macintosh X server.
I'd like to know if others have seen the same problem. It's happened
with the current version (1.2), and with version 1.1.7.
When some types of client windows are displayed, parts of the windows
are in the wrong color; if the window is moved slightly, forcing the server
to repaint it, it is repainted in the correct colors. It doesn't happen
for xterm windows, but has happened for graphic windows and with some
Motif clients.
--
Stan Kerr
Computing & Communications Services Office, U of Illinois/Urbana
Phone: 217-333-5217 Email: stankerr@uiuc.edu
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <C5K5Co.F09@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang) writes:
> Sorry for the mis-spelling, but I forgot how to spell it after
>my series of exams and NO-on hand reference here.
>
> Is it still possible to get those cute WWII VW Jeep-wanna-be's?
>A replica would be great I think.
greetings:
you may be in luck. i seem to recall seeing a blurb in one of
the kit car magazines about a company in norway who pulled a
mould (sp?) off a real kubel, and has adapted it to the beetle
floorpan. as for the suspension, all i can remember about the
vw thing i used to own is that it had about 3" more suspension
travel than a stock beetle, but i'd heard that there were after-
market parts for off-road use that were as good or better. note
that the major difference (looks wise) between a kubel & a thing
are the hood and the fenders. the kubel had an external spare
mounted *on* the hood, and the hood sloped down (for visibility?)
sharply, and had rounded fenders. the thing has a lightly sloped
hood with the spare mounted inside (unless moved to make for more
luggage space...) and has half-hexagon shaped fenders (imagine a
nut large enough to put a tire *in*, and cut off the bottom half
of it...).
unfortunately, i don't have that info anymore. try stopping
at a local bookstore and copying down the phone numbers for the
two big mag's and calling them. they might be able to get the
number for you (don't forget to calculate the time difference to
norway before calling...).
later,
kc
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/ ~~~~~~~~~~~ \ | Damn it, Jim, I'm a |
() kking@cs.uah.edu () | doctor, not a bidet! :) |
| 7rec.autos |
In article <1r3j2k$da2@menudo.uh.edu>, HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
> > :> As someone else has pointed out, why would the stove be in use on a warm day
> > :> in Texas.
> > :Do YOU eat all your food cold?
>
> Minor quibble: The assualt (and it was one) began near dawn. The fire did
> not break out for several hours. I find it highly unlikely that the BD would
> be cooking lunch while armored vehicles punch holes in their house and are
> pumping in tear gas.
Look, I don't want to bore everybody here with the physics of woodstoves,
but they're not anything like your Caloric gas range. It takes about
three hours for a woodstove to get hot enough to cook on, and afterwards
you can't just "shut it off" -- it will contain hot embers for over 24
hours even after you choke it COMPLETELY.
So it ain't exactly "light up the stove and cook me a batch of them
pancakes, Aunt J..." If you use a woodstove for cooking, or even for
heating your house at night, you will have it lit to SOME extent all
the time. Trust me on this one, I speak from experience.
--
cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company,
OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1pigidINNsot@gap.caltech.edu>, keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) writes:
> Not so. If you are thrown into a cage with a tiger and get mauled, do you
> blame the tiger?
AHA! He admits it! He IS a moral relativist!
Keith, if you start wafffling on about how it is different for a human
to maul someone thrown into it's cage (so to speak), you'd better start
posting tome decent evidence or retract your 'I think there is an absolute
morality' blurb a few weeks ago.
> keith
The Desert Brat
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For replies, mail to whjjm@wh.whyalla.unisa.edu.au /\________/
Disclaimer: Unisa hates my opinions. bb bb
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|understand the refractive mechanisms that chance to | for some." |
|produce it." - Jim Perry, perry@dsinc.com | - Alice In Chains |
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| 0alt.atheism |
[reply to keith@actrix.gen.nz (Keith Stewart)]
>My wife has become interested through an acquaintance in Post-Polio
>Syndrome This apparently is not recognised in New Zealand and different
>symptons ( eg chest complaints) are treated separately. Does anone have
>any information on it
It would help if you (and anyone else asking for medical information on
some subject) could ask specific questions, as no one is likely to type
in a textbook chapter covering all aspects of the subject. If you are
looking for a comprehensive review, ask your local hospital librarian.
Most are happy to help with a request of this sort.
Briefly, this is a condition in which patients who have significant
residual weakness from childhood polio notice progression of the
weakness as they get older. One theory is that the remaining motor
neurons have to work harder and so die sooner.
David Nye (nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu). Midelfort Clinic, Eau Claire WI
This is patently absurd; but whoever wishes to become a philosopher
must learn not to be frightened by absurdities. -- Bertrand Russell
| 13sci.med |
mfraioli@grebyn.com (Marc Fraioli) writes:
>messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk) writes:
>>ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
>>
>>>"The Preferred Applications Development Platform"
>>> 1992 1993
>>>Unix 18 28
>>>DOS & MSW 24 18
>>
>>Development of what? In-house apps? Maybe, but certainly not apps
>>to be sold on an open market. Statistics like that are laughable,
>>
>Actually, you might be surprised to find that not everyone who develops
>mainstream DOS and Windows apps develops them under DOS or Windows. PC
>Week recently printed a rumor that Microsoft's Excel development group
>does its development under OS/2.
If you believe that, I have a nice piece for swamp for you for RE
development. Microsoft does even its techpubs under Windows.
>Another trade rag did an article
>recently about a group doing Windows development on Sun SPARCstations
>with SoftPC to test out their work.
That wasn't Geo Works, was it? :-)
>DOS and Windows are simply not robust or stable enough for
>development work, IMHO, and apparently others agree.
Nonsense. Sorry, I make fun of Windows all the time, but the above is
simply a myth. Tell that to Microsoft, Novell and others who dominate
the market.
t.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Fellow netters,
I'm in the market for a hand scanner. However, I don't know anyone who has
one. I have my eye on two choices.
Dexxa: This scanner is available at Wal-Mart for $90. It includes GrayWorks
software and provides 400 dpi and 32 grayscales (I think). The OCR software
Catchword is available through mail-order for about $90 also.
Mustek: (Gray Artist for Windows) This scanner offers 256 grayscales
(according to Cad & Graphics) and 800 dpi. It is available for $169
mail-order and comes with Perceive OCR and Picture Publisher LE.
I am also looking at a Genius hand scanner (B105) from Cad & Graphics. It
is basically the same as the Mustek scanner except for the resolution (400
dpi) and price ($149).
Basically, I would like recommendations on which to buy. I have heard that
Logitech makes the best and manufactures Dexxa scanners. But which one is the
best buy? Would 800 dpi really be helpful (output would be no better than HP
LaserJet III or Canon BJ-200 - 300x300 to 360x360)? I am leaning toward the
Mustek because it offers the most features and is in the middle in terms of
prices. Which should I buy?
If you have a hand scanner, please let me know whether or not you would
recommend it. Also, if you know of another scanner within the price range
(under $225) that would be a better deal, please E-Mail me. Any and all help
would be greatly appreciated.
- Kevin Harter
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <schumach.736495556@convex.convex.com> schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher) writes:
>This "reverse the polarity!" crap always bugged the hell out of me, too,
>until I found an actual, live, real-life example of it working! I quote
>from Aviation Week and Space Technology for 2 July 1990, page 25:
>
> He [Colonel Charles F. Stirling, speaking of the problem of
> fuel bubble formation in Titan 4 Aerojet LR87 engines] said
> engineers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory had run into
> the same problem and suggested that the Air Force look at the
> effect of Aerozene 50 decomposition. The fix, now flown three
> times without incident, was to reverse the inlet and outlet
> portions of the hot gas cooler.
>
>! Once again, life imitates art.
How about the discussion of the STS Tether experiment. Ran forward,
it would suck energy from the Earth's magnetic field, while trivially
slowing the Shuttle. It could also have run backward -- if they ran
electricity through the tether the other way, it would have trivially
propelled the Shuttle faster.
But an even better example comes to mind. There's this electronics guy,
someone like Craig Anderton or Don Lancaster. Ten years ago he wrote about
an invention of his. He could take a light-detector, run current through
it at about a hundred times its rating, and it would glow. He got legal
rights to this design of a combination "fiber optic emitter/receiver". This
turned out to be the basic unit of ATT's (I think) plan to bring Brazil's
communications system into the 21st century. (The article was mostly about
his legal wranglings with the company that eventually got him well-compensated
for his invention.)
tombaker
(yes that's my real name)
(My employer's opinion's are not my own.)
(I am self-employed)
| 14sci.space |
In article <1r1pn6$nap@lll-winken.llnl.gov> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes:
>This, too, is ridiculous. In no way can the provoker be considered
>to have played more than an exceedingly minor role. A person
>who kills is ultimately responsible for his own actions.
>
Finally, someone seems to be making sense in this thread.
Alan
| 18talk.politics.misc |
> Anyways, I've built the basic up & down converters with pretty
> good results (>80% efficiency) but I'm running into problems
> when I try to design & build anything that puts out serious
> amps... I know it can be done (I have some 5V@200A guts on my
> bench) but something puzzles me: I'm using a simple choke as
> the storage element (basicly a toroid with a single winding)
> but ALL commercial models use transformers with MANY windings.
> I traced a few and they seem to use some of the winding for
> the usual error/feedback but some of the others seem to loose
> me... What are they for? Better than that, anyone have a full
> schematic for one of these that I could get a copy of? I'd
> love to see how they manage to squeeze out so much from such
> low volume :-)
Most commercial switchers do NOT use magnetics for their energy storage;
that's handled by the big caps on the primary side, those which in a
linearly-regulated power supply would be considered the "filter" caps,
coming right after the bridge. The transformer is just that - a
transformer. It's there primarily to step the voltage up or down. (Although
the inductance seen by the switch transistor on the primary side is NOT
negligible, as anyone who's zapped said transistor from either failing to
get one with a high enough breakdown voltage or neglecting to include a
"snubber" diode across it would tell you. Actually, many transistors intended
for switcher use today have the diode built in.)
The basic switched-mode power supply operates something like this (in
a somewhat simplified manner): The AC line is rectified to produce a
high voltage, more-or-less unregulated DC rail. The energy storage (or
"filter") caps appear across this rail, as does the switching transistor.
The transistor chops the current into the primary side of the transformer,
resulting in stepped-up or stepped-down pulses out the secondary, which
are then rectified and filtered. At least one of the transformer's outputs
is sampled and fed back to the control circuit for the switching transistor,
which acts in a "pulse-width modulation" (PWM) fashion to control (by varying
the pulse width) the amount of energy being dumped into the primary, and
therefore the voltage coming out at the secondary. The remaining outputs
may be allowed to simply run at whatever value they will, more-or-less
tracking the regulated output, or they may have some additional linear
regulation added. You may also note that the feedback between the
regulated output and the PWM control (which is most typically an IC)
is not done via a direct electrical connection; this is due to various
safety standards which require primary and secondary circuits to be
electrically isolated. Often, the feedback path involves an optoisolator
to meet this requirement.
While the transformer isn't the primary energy-storage device in these
designs, this does not mean that the energy stored in the transformer can
be ignored; besides the inductive "kick" giving the switch transistor a
bad time (as noted above), you also need to worry about getting all the
energy that went *in* to the transformer back *out* again, one way or another.
In some designs, this happens more or less automatically - but in others,
you need to take special care to ensure that the transformer core doesn't
saturate, which again would have disastrous results (best left to the
imagination! :-)).
I'm NOT by any stretch of the imagination a power-supply designer;
hopefully, a real one will come along soon and clean up any gross errors
in the above.
Bob Myers KC0EW Hewlett-Packard Co. |Opinions expressed here are not
Systems Technology Div. |those of my employer or any other
myers@fc.hp.com Fort Collins, Colorado |sentient life-form on this planet.
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <May.11.02.39.02.1993.28325@athos.rutgers.edu> Eugene.Bigelow@ebay.sun.com writes:
>>This all obviously applies equally well to infants or adults, since
>>both have souls. Infants must be baptized, therefore, or they cannot
>>enter into Heaven. They too need this form of life in them, or they
>>cannot enter into Heaven.
>
>Are you saying that baptism has nothing to do with asking Jesus to come into
>your heart and accepting him as your savior, but is just a ritual that we
>must go through to enable us to enter Heaven?
I don't think Joe was saying any such thing. However, your question
on "asking Jesus to come into your heart" seems to imply that infants
are not allowed to have Christ in theirs. Why must Baptism always be
viewed by some people as a sort of "prodigal son" type of thing; i.e. a
sudden change of heart, going from not accepting Christ to suddenly
accepting Christ? Why can't people start out with Christ from shortly
after birth, and build their relationship from there? After all, does
a man suddenly meet a woman, and then marry her that same day? From my
experiences, I've learned that all relationships must be built,
including one's relationship with God.
Also Joe is speaking from the standpoint that Baptism is not just a
ritual, but that through it God bestows sacramental grace upon the
recipient. Certainly for those with the mental faculties to know Christ
it is necessary to believe in Him. However, the Sacrament itself
bestows grace on the recipient, and makes a permanent mark of adoption
into God's family on the soul.
- - - - - - - - - -
Steve Creps, Indiana University
creps@lateran.ucs.indiana.edu
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In a previous article, zbib@bnr.ca (Sam Zbib) says:
>IMHO, it does not really matter who started any individual battle within
>the Arabs/Isreal war context. The real question is who/what started the
>War. Does anyone have any doubts it was the creation of Israel on Arab
>land ?
Where the hell do you get off calling it "Arab land"? Jews have been
living there for a long time. Jews didn't just start arriving in 1900,
they've been living there for thousands of years, except for periods when
they were expelled but they always returned home.
Steve
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| 17talk.politics.mideast |
ETHER IMPLODES 2 EARTH CORE, IS GRAVITY!!!
This paper BOTH describes how heavenly bodys can be stationary,
ether sucking structures, AND why we observe "orbital" motion!!
Ether, the theoretical propogation media of electro-magnetic
waves, was concluded not to exist, based on the results of the
Michelson-Moreley experiment conducted a century ago.
I propose that those conclusions are flawed, based on the fact
that the experiment was designed to look for a flow parallel to the
earth's surface, not perpindicular. (Due to the prevailing assumption
that the earth traveled through the ether as a ball through the wind)
The reversal of the that conclusion, a pivotal keystone in the
development of modern scientific thought, could have ramifications
of BIBLICAL proportions through out the WORLD!!
REMEMBER: Einstien said Imagination is greater than knowledge!!
1
I dream like this: ether based reality
The ether is like a fluid out of phase with our reality. Creations
start as a lattice placed into the ether. Given a spin, the lattices
both drag the fluid, like a margarita blender, and ingest it,
converting it, distilling localized mass, time and energy.
(non-spinning lattice = "dark matter")
The earth isn't exactly spinning, around the sun. Picture an image
of a galaxy; we haven't any videos of them spinning. Picture us
being stationary, and the sun's image being dragged across the sky by
the spinning ether field. (Picture an onion, each layer of which is
spinning a little faster than the next. A thread shot at the inner
kernel would be stretched diagonally sideways, its head being in a
faster shell than its tail, until it finally intersected the ground
of the inner kernel, its direction vector being straight down, but
its "foot print" being a line, not a point. [sunrise, sunset])
The moon isn't exactly orbiting us. It is a parasite, (non self
spin sustaining ) being dragged in the earth's ether field, which is
itself in the sun's much more powerful field. Our seasons are the
wobble of earth's axis, like a top slowing down. The "orbit" of the
earth around the sun is all of the stars' images being dragged around
by the sun's ether feild.
The earth, moon and sun are about the same size and "distance"
apart. Its just that the time between them varies greatly, because
the "path" is not the same. The moon's lattice in the ether is like
sticking a fork in a plate of spaghetti and giving the plate a half
turn. The sun's lattice has so much spin that its like the fork has
got the whole plate of noodles wound up. The piece of light going to
the moon can slide down the spaghetti and maybe make a "j" hook at
the end. The piece of light going to the sun has to go around the
whole plate, like a needle in a record, before it gets there.
With a pencil, compass, and rule, draw a diagram of how the moon
can be about as big as "earth's" shadow upon it, and at other times
totally eclipse the sun. Look in the sky. except for your Knowledge,
would you guess that they are about the same size, just because they
look about the same size?
O . - - E O O O S
E / \
M | | OR M
\ _ _ /
S
The full moon, quarter moon etc. is the difference between rate
of ether spins. What we are looking at is a rotating "turntable view"
of the moon, only half of which is facing the sun. ( I've seen a
half moon within about 120 degrees (of sky) of the sun, during the
day. Try and draw that "earth shadow.") Its only the moon's image
which appears to orbit us. No matter where it is, the light part is
the part facing the sun, and the dark part is the half facing away
from the sun, even when it appears to be behind us.
"Light-Years" between galaxies is a misnomer. The distance is
closer to zero, as time and matter are characteristics of this phase
of reality, which dissipates outward with each layer of the onion.
(defining edge = 0 ether spin) What we are seeing could be
essentially happening now. The "piece" of light may have experienced
many years, but the trip could be very quick, our time.
To time travel or warp space I might consider learning to
de-spin myself. (phase out my mass) Good luck trying to design
a propulsion system to drag around a space-time locality. (its like
trying to move a balloon by shooting a squirt gun from within)
To find out about all of this, I recommend studying history. I'd
look in the book of life. (or holy grail etc.) Brain waves just
might carry decipherable data. I'd start looking on some part of the
spectra said to be unusable, due to all the background noise. (4+
billion humans?) I'd totally isolate myself, record me thinking DOG
backwards, and learn to read what I got. (Microsoft Holy Grail card
for Pentium!)
Next, concluding that my thoughts were recorded on a non time-bound
media, the ether, and that it is I who move forward (in time). I
would try to temporarily locally reverse the flow, (of time, which
I'd start looking for as flowing opposite magnetism, pole to pole.
[Why not?]) perhaps by passing a LARGE, FLAT DC current through a
two foot diameter. coil or choke or something, and seeing what I
could get with my machine's receiver next to it.
If you don't think you'll live to see it, consider this: QUIT
PUTTING THE REPRODUCTIVE KEYS OF OTHER LIFE IN YOUR BODY! All of
life's data could be written on the wind, (ether) not just our
thoughts. DNA could be a little receiver or file access code. By
eating SEEDS, we could be jamming our reception, or receiving plant
instructions. Try eating seed bearing fruit. Maybe those Greek or
biblical guys did live hundreds of years. I'm curios to see what
they did and ate. Don't worry if your hair stops growing. (Maybe we
don't need to eat at all, the cosmos are formed from nothing, and
that is creating matter! I only need enough to bounce around. Where
did the household concept 'immortal' come from? Wheat is a weed, it
is programmed to pull from the soil, reproduce like hell, and then
die)
Warning about writing to the past:
I had a little dream of being in a world, in the near parallel
future, lying along a path of history which we have diverged from.
There were; twelve telepathic, glowing beings, who looked like an
Oscar award and who had always been, a dark one who looked like us,
and then myself. The dark one was in the process of making the
others into gods, (he had to teach them what that meant) by
"advising" them in their past. Basically, he manipulated them into
reproducing, and raising their children on his seed. He said that
the little ones who looked different were a sub-species, meant to
provide service. He carefully combed through history, rewriting it
in his favor, pulling like a weed anything that compromised his
control. He enticed recruits by sending them his visions, saying
that there was immortality at the end of the road for only twelve
souls: kill or be killed. The amount of control he could exert was
finite, though, as at every change he made, a void would appear in
our reality. The universe one day ended 100 meters from us: it
seemed odd, but we couldn't remember how else it should be. Then
some of the twelve were no more. Finally, when he could prune no
more, and reality stopped just beyond his fingertips, he stepped
through his portal to the past, to bask, over and over, in all that
he had created. I made a few more changes, and lost my body,
existing only on the wind.
MORAL: Its very possible to eliminate from your reality the souls
whose will's are not in harmony with yours (Golden Rule - treat
others as you wish to be treated) I.E., you could end up along a
lonely thread of time with murderers or flowery brown-nosers for
playmates. (its not eternal, there's more than one way back)
Accepting rides to the past:
Once here, the one who looks like us sells rides, he can make you a
Prince, or a Queen, or you can live as a god in ancient Greece. Go
ahead, repeat the third grade as often as you like, Adam henry.
I Hope you like inspecting your socks. Careful though, if he likes
your work, but thinks you're getting wise, he can direct you to cross
paths with your old self, and you'll vanish as you rewrite your own
course of history, none the wiser.
As we pass the point along the parallel line where he stepped
back in time, his hierarchy will lose its direction. He can still
make changes while he's here, its just that that is work, and with
every 'adjustment', this becomes less the world he cultivated, which
loosens his grip, and his organization is suddenly one branch less.
But he can't see the change. The basic nature of man is good. He had
to apply his hand to achieve his world. As he now tightens his hand
to retain what he built, the more sand slips through his fingers.
How about public computer access to the I.R.S. ? Its our country,
our money, and they're spending it on us, RIGHT? Imagine this:
Washington marks the next cost at 8, IRS collects 10, gives 5 to
congress, and just absolutely buries 5. Congress borrows 2. The banks
are making, what, a 30% margin (interest) on our government? Big
corporations are ecstatic if they can do a 10% margin. What do the
banks do with it? Hold some on a carrot to the world, sure, but
mostly, bury it. WHY? Food production is 2% GNP?, construction 6% ? 14
hours to build your auto? The people are spending all of their time
to buy back a tenth of what they produce. Have we been deceived? If
we are more efficient, why is it getting harder to get by? What if
the point is just to keep the people busy making widgets?
In that other reality, I shouted to the twelve, "its chaos!" They
said, "no, its order." He defined chaos as that which is he was not
able to control.
Rain forest: The problem could be that all the water in its canopy
would hide the location of an indigenous people who have no
language. (telepathic; and 'vanishing' the closest knowledge of death)
(think of the spine as a transceiver, if it is on the ground and
pointed up, you can locate it from above) These people are probably
naive as children, but very, very tough to kill. Also, They should
be able to tell you stories about the dark one that I talk about.
They can hear him. I think that Ham and world band radio old timers
might have a story to tell on this. These people would be on a
different frequency than us as they aren't eating seeds.
Famine relief: When I make my diet almost all whole wheat, I get a
huge belly, lose muscle mass, sleep A LOT, and get sick. When I eat
only fresh fruit, I get more energy, a Hollywood-flat belly, and
need a lot less sleep.
UN. Peace Keeping; There is fighting and killing all over. The
troops go in when there is no bread on the shelf. (its OK to kill
each other, just make sure there is enough to eat.)
Somalia: What is disturbing is energetic, gun carrying, three foot
tall sixteen year-olds, who eat nothing but some roots that they
suck on. It is not so much that their growth is stunted, it is that
they aren't dying at a rate of 50 of 60 years per life.
Women with children, Babes in arms: Historical references to women
and children as a single unit could mean that infants were not cut
from the umbilical cord. (and hence, were not breast fed) I think
that there may be some very interesting results to this, such as
mother-child telepathy, and blue blooded infants. There are examples
of this practice in the aquatic mammal kingdom to investigate.
That guy is the master of illusion, and the ultimate liar. He
tells it first, and then just follows the thread of time in which
the people are willing to buy it. (in which he can make it so) He'll
play a poker face up until he thinks he's cornered, and then he'll
whine, beg and grovel. All it means to him is that you're willing to
live on the ground work that he has laid, that is, that he was
right, and he didn't over play his hand, and he won't need to go
back and try another thread of time. You have ultimate control over
your destiny, just don't live along a path that leads to a reality
in which you don't want to be a part of.
I don't claim to be the first to think these things, its just
that the others could have been 'pruned' from our path. Maybe these
thoughts given to me were laid down on the track of time, after him.
| 14sci.space |
I am boring my sister HP DeskJet 500C for the weekend and I was wondering
in their was any drivers for it available some where that would allow
me to use it with my Mac SE/30. I have a copy of MacPrint but I do think
that I have a driver for the 500C. I would be happy to get it working
in black & white, but if there is away to get the color working that would
be better. Any ideas someone?
Regards,
--
Robert R. Hardesty hardesty@meiko.com
Customer Support Engineer Tele: (617) 890-7676
Meiko Scientific Corporation Fax: (617) 890-5042
1601 Trapelo Rd. Waltham, MA 02154
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
If the student has a kidney infection, she ought to be on antibiotics.
Kidney infections-- left untreated-- can cause permanent damage to
the kidneys. I was hospitalized with a kidney infection a while ago
and I was very sick.
In article <1993Apr29.003406.55029@ux1.cts.eiu.edu>, cfaks@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Alice Sanders) writes:
......
> Also, she is told that thre are 300! surgery patients ahead of her
> and that they cannot do surgery until August or so. It is now April...
> She is supposed to rest a lot and drink fluids. But she has to go to
> classes. She wonders why they have given her no medicine. She plans to
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| 13sci.med |
>In article <1993Apr15.204845.24939@nlm.nih.gov> dabl2@nlm.nih.gov (Don A.B. Lindbergh) writes:
>>
>>Anybody seen mouse cursor distortion running the Diamond 1024x768x256 driver?
>>Sorry, don't know the version of the driver (no indication in the menus) but it's a recently
>>delivered Gateway system. Am going to try the latest drivers from Diamond BBS but wondered
>>if anyone else had seen this.
>>
>As a followup, this is a co-worker's machine. He has the latest 2.03 drivers.
>It only happens using the 1024x768x256 driver. Sometimes it takes a minute
>or so for the cursor to wig out, but it eventually does in this mode. I
>susect something is stepping on memory the video card wants. I excluded
>a000-c7ff in the EMM386 line and in system.ini The problem persisted.
>Perhaps it is something specific to the Gateway machine or it's components.
>It is a 66mhz DX/2 Eisa bus with an Ultrastore (24xx?) controller. Ah well,
>I was hoping this was some kind of 'known problem' or somebody had seen it
>before. Perhaps a call to Gateway is in order, but I do find folks here
>usually are far more in the know.
I use the Diamond SpeedStar 24X in 1024X768X256 mode all of the time. I
have NOT found distortions in the cursor. The cursor is a little jumpy
from time to time (due to 32 bit access to the swap file), but it is never
distorted.
Greg Bishop. (bishop@baeyer.chem.fsu.edu)
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1327@qa1.WichitaKS.NCR.COM> jhart@qa1.WichitaKS.NCR.COM (Jim Hart) writes:
>In article <1993Mar29.161044.1@uncavx.unca.edu> bwillard@uncavx.unca.edu
>writes:
>>My TOP 10 list of dumbest automotive concepts ever
>>
>>10. 1984 Dodge Colt Vista - tachometer only avail. with automatic trans.
>>9. Back-up lights on Corvette - they're on the sides of the car!
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Sure would be interested to know what year(s) this was!
>I don't seem to recall ANY car with back-up lights on the sides, much
>less any Corvette. I suppose I could be mis-interpreting what you are
>trying to say here.....
Just a quick comment. Backup lights mounted on the side
would actually be *extremely* useful for people backing out of
parking stalls...
Regards, Charles
--
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
| 7rec.autos |
In article <1993May15.175312.22307@emr1.emr.ca> jagrant@emr1.emr.ca (John Grant) writes:
I don't think the question is:
"will OS/2 X.X run Windows Y.Y apps now?"
A more important question is:
"will subsequent OS/2 versions continue to run apps
from subsequent Windows versions in the future?"
--
John A. Grant jagrant@emr1.emr.ca
Airborne Geophysics
Geological Survey of Canada, Ottawa
But the most important question is:
"will there be any OS2 apps, so we don't
have to load windows in the future?"
and maybe the question of the future will be:
"will windows X.1 run OS2 Y.Y apps now?"
Regards Hans
--
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The whales of the Atlantic and the people of the Faroe Islands
have coexisted in perfect harmony for the last 1000 years -
no matter what any urban navel contamplator without any real
relation to the coherence of the nature says.
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| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
6misc.forsale | |
In article <1993Apr17.125545.22457@rose.com> ron.roth@rose.com (ron roth) writes:
>
> OTOH, who are we kidding, the New England Medical Journal in 1984
> ran the heading: "Ninety Percent of Diseases are not Treatable by
> Drugs or Surgery," which has been echoed by several other reports.
> No wonder MDs are not amused with alternative medicine, since
> the 20% magic of the "placebo effect" would award alternative
> practitioners twice the success rate of conventional medicine...
1: "90% of diseases" is not the same thing as "90% of patients".
In a world with one curable disease that strikes 100 people, and nine
incurable diseases which strikes one person each, medical science will cure
91% of the patients and report that 90% of diseases have no therapy.
2: A disease would be counted among the 90% untreatable if nothing better than
a placebo were known. Of course MDs are ethically bound to not knowingly
dispense placebos...
-dk
| 13sci.med |
amir@matis.ingr.com writes:
>For all those people flaming John Bradley, the author of xv - he's on
>vacation till May 10 (or 15, I don't remember). Maybe we all should slow
>down and wait to hear his side wrt copyrights, fees, etc.
While I have respect for John's ability and integrity, I really regret his
leaving just after a major release (or, more accurately, making the release
just before leaving). Several of us are having problems with xv-3.00, and
in particular I have issues with all the fixes that have so far been made
to the Imakefiles and xv.h. Without John to adjudicate, and everybody
posting fixes that work for *them*, chaos is inevitable; let's hope it is
temporary.
--
John "Guile Skywalker" Brooks using his Dad's account
| 5comp.windows.x |
creps@lateran.ucs.indiana.edu (Stephen A. Creps) writes:
> To summarize, you accused the original poster of saying if something
>is not forbidden by the Bible, then that proves it is OK; i.e. if
>something cannot be disproven, it is true. He rather seemed to be
You are absolutely right. After reading it over again, I realized that I
misunderstood what he said. My apologies. As for the question about
slavery, I have to disagree. Slavery in those times was the same as slavery
in the US. Some may have been indentured servants, but not all. I would also
expect Paul to do a little more than just HINT about a particular slave.
| 15soc.religion.christian |
Matthew Huntbach writes:
sm[?]>a real Christian unless you're born again is a very fundamental biblical
sm[?]>conversion and regeneration are 'probably' part of some small USA-based cult
>the "born-again" tag often use it to mean very specifically
>having undergone some sort of ecstatic experience (which can in
>fact be very easily manufactured with a little psychological manipulation),
>and are often insultingly dismissive of those whose
>Christianity is a little more intellectual, is not the result
Some of these "cults", which seems like a rather dismissive term
to me, are pretty big here in the USA. Most of them
are quite respectable & neiborly & do not resemble Branch Davidians
in the least; confusing them is a mistake. What about "live &
let live", folks? I'm sure we can uncover a few extremist loonies
who are Catholic -- the anti-abortion movement in the USA seems to have a
few hard cases in it, for example.
>I've often heard such people use the line "Catholics aren't
>real Christians". Indeed, anyone sending "missionaries" to
>Ireland must certainly be taking this line, for otherwise why
>would they not be content for Christianity to be maintained in
>Ireland in its traditional Catholic form?
I have to agree Matthew with this; I have certainly encountered a lot
of anti-Catholic-religion propaganda & emotion (& some bigotry) from
members of certain religious groups here. They also practice their
missionary work with zeal among Catholics in the United States, but to
someone who is or was raised Catholic such rhetoric is pretty
off-putting. It may work better in an environment where there's a lot
of popular anti-clericalism.
Follow-ups set elsewhere, this no longer seems very relevant to Celtic issues
to me.
--
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Is it realistic for the government to try to keep the details
of the encrytion algorithm secret if it intends to use evidence from
wiretaps in court? Won't defense attorneys attempt to obtain the
details of the method if the prosecution attempts to present evidence
from wiretaps in court? Is it certain that such attempts will fail?
James B. Shearer
| 11sci.crypt |
In article: <C5LrFr.4H7@mach1.wlu.ca>brow2812@mach1.wlu.ca
(craig brown 9210 u) writes:
>In article <C5LIHI.389@ccu.umanitoba.ca> ebrahim@ee.umanitoba.ca
>(Mohamad Ebrahimi) writes:
>> I would like to share with netters a few points I picked up from the PBS
>> Frontline program regarding Iran's nuclear activities, aired on Tuesday
>> April 13. For the sake of brevity, I'll present them in some separate
>> points.
>Already say it the other week on CBC Snoozeworld
>> 2- Almost all alleged devices or material bought or planned to be bought
>> by Iranians were of countless dual usage, while the program tries to
>> undermine their non-military uses, without any reference to Iran's
>> big population and its inevitable need to other sources of energy in
>> near future and its current deficit in electrical power.
>Why the hell would such an oil rich (and hydroelectric potential to be
>exploited) spend billions on a nuclear energy programme?
For several reasons, including:
- With the current rate of growth of population and considering the
60 million people who are already living there, the oil reserves
won't last for more than 30 years, and after that Iran has to have
other sources of energy.
- Even with unlimited resources of oil, it is the most wastefuls and
foolish way to burn the oil just for thermal energy, while thousands
of valuable derivatives could be taken from oil. For example, I
bought an iron for $11:00 here in Canada, later I bought a garbage
bucket for our kitchen for nearly $12:00!!! The bucket has been made
from petroleum products, and I bet the producing country has not
received even 5 cents for the amount of the oil used in that bucket,
while the western producer, thank to the monopoly they have in
technology and are trying to maintain it in all fields of science by
methods you saw in that program, makes billions of dollars every
year.
- Iran's hydro-potential is something around 10,000 MW which won't be
enough in less than 10 years. Even exploiting this potential takes
billions of dollars and so many years, which can not catch up with
the rate of growth in Iran's energy production.
- More important than all above, the science is not the belonging of any
specific group or nation. It is none of anybody's business if a nation
want's to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, if that nation has
accepted international monitoring, something which Iran has done.
>> 4- A key point in program's justifications is trying to disvalidate as
>> much as possible all efforts done by IAEA [*] in their numerous visits from
>> Iran's different sites. They say: "We are not sure if the places visited
>> by IAEA are the real ones or not" !, or " We can not rely on IAEA's
>> reports and observation, because they failed to see Iraq's nuclear
>> activities before" as if they didn't know that Iraq was trying to build
>> nuclear weapons!
>Yeah, and we have every reason in the world to trust the Iranian regime.
>After all, they've been *so* forward with us in the past....
You can do whatever you want to. But fair people of the world won't
accept any of your screams, when they see the constant observations
of IAEA from Iranian sites, and their constant rejection of the idea that
Iran has a nuclear bomb production program.
>> I hope all Iranians be aware of the gradual buildup against their
>> country in western media, and I hope Iranian authorities continue to
>> their wise and calculated approach with regard to international affairs
>> and peaceful coexistence with friendly nations.
>hahahahahahaahah!
Good sense of humor! Since you have been sleeping during past few
years, I remind you to look at all Iran's neighbors from Kashmir and
Afghanistan, Tajikestan, to Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Iraq, Lebanon,
Palestine, boreder between Saudi Arabia and Qatar, etc. to see that only
Iran is in calm and peaceful situation. Also, look at Iran's stance with
regard to Iraqi occupation of Kuwait, war between Armenia and Azerbaijan,
civil war in Afghanistan, etc. to understand what " wise and calculated
approach" is all about.
>>Mohammad
>> [*] International Atomic Energy Agency
Mohammad
| 18talk.politics.misc |
in article <1rpv9o$k00@wraith.cs.uow.edu.au>, u9152083@wraith.cs.uow.edu.au (Glen Justin Balmer) says:
> Message-ID: <1rpv9o$k00@wraith.cs.uow.edu.au>
...
> If not, has anybody heard of the particle propolsion system?
>
> Thanx. 8-)
>
> Glen Balmer...
>
I believe that my former employer Hughes Aircraft Company has a working Ion
Propulsion system for satellites.
Jay Brinkmeyer
| 14sci.space |
If anyone has any information about the existence or location of a
dedicated X server kernel for the Sun3, please send email. I am
trying to put some neglected Sun3s to good use but they don't have
enough memory for SunOS 4.1.1. Thanks in advance for any help.
--
/\ /\/ Max Bell | I used to think I'd emmigrate to escape
/ \/ /\ mbell@techbook.com | the tyrants, but now I think I'll stay
~~~~~~~~~ mbell@cie.uoregon.edu | and make them leave instead.
| 5comp.windows.x |
: I've only had the computer for about 21 months. Is that a reasonable life
: cycle for a LCD display?
My Toshiba T1100+ LCD (CGA, 1986) died in 11 months. Replaced under the 12
month warranty, fortunately. When it died, it died instantly and completely.
| 1comp.graphics |
I recently ftp'd Al's Circuit Simulator (ACS) and I'm looking for
the tutorial which is mentioned in the Users Manual (but not found there).
I don't have any experience constructing a netlist (such as for SPICE)
and I need a little help.
The examples which come with ACS aren't explanatory about the translation
between schematic and netlist. Does anyone have the fabled "Tutorial"
or any other reference which could help me in constructing a netlist from
a schematic diagram?
(I also emailed Al himself but received no response yet. He's probably
busy with his next release.)
--
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Tim Pillsbury Internet: tsp@ccd.harris.com
uunet: uunet!ccd.harris.com!timothy.pillsbury
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| 12sci.electronics |
In article <C50wJJ.J4r@newsflash.concordia.ca> ilyess@ECE.Concordia.CA
(Ilyess Bdira) writes:
> > 1)why do jews who don't even believe in God (as is the case with many
> of the founders of secular zionism) have a right in Palestine more
> than the inhabitants of Palestine, just because God gave you the land?
G-d has nothing to do with it. Some of the land was in fact given to the
Jews by the United Nations, quite a bit of it was purchased from Arab
absentee landlords. Present claims are based on prior ownership (purchase
from aforementioned absentee landlords) award by the United Nations in the
partition of the Palestine mandate territory, and as the result of
defensive wars fought against the Egyptians, Syrians, Jordanians, et al.
***
> 2)Why do most of them speak of the west bank as theirs while most of
> the inhabitants are not Jews and do not want to be part of Israel?
First, I should point out that many Jews do not in fact agree with the
idea that the West Bank is theirs. Since, however, I agree with those who
claim the West Bank, I think I can answer your question thusly: the West
bank was what is called the spoils of war. Hussein ordered the Arab Legion
to attack Israel, which was a poor move, seeing as how the Israelis
promptly kicked his butt. The territory is therefore forefeit. Retaining
possession of ALL of the West bank is not desirable, but it beats
national suicide for the Israelis. Put another way, one could ask why it
is that so many Palestinians seem to think that Tel-Aviv belongs to them
and the future state of Palestine. As long as this state of affairs
continues, it seems that to give the Palestinians a place from which they
can launch attacks on Jews is a real poor idea. Giving up the entire West
Bank would be idiotic froma security standpoint. In addition, there is
the small matter of Jerusalem, which is considered to be part of the West
Bank. The chances of the Israelis giving up Jerusalem are nil. Even
leftists who think Yasser is a really cool dude, like Yossi Sarid, aren't
going to propose giving up Jerusalem. If he did, he'd get run out of town
on a rail.
chag sameach!
jeff
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
(U28698@uicvm.uic.edu) wrote:
: Marian CATHOLIC high school, outside of chicago:
:
: 666 south ASHLAND avenue.
:
Actually, Satanism is technically inverted Catholicism.
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| Andrew Bulhak | :plonk: n. The sound of Richard Depew |
| acb@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au | hitting the ground after being |
| Monash Uni, Clayton, | defenestrated by a posse of angry Usenet |
| Victoria, Australia | posters. |
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| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1993Apr21.045548.17418@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st922957@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>
>Y'know, when the right to bear arms was "invented", all we had to worry
>about was the shotgun and pistol.
Don't forget rifles.
>Just because someting was good once, does not mean it will be forever.
The Amendment in question was "invented" so that a government that had it in mind to
oppress its people would have cause to think twice. Governments are still doing
this kind of thing today.
--
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Marc Cassidy :-)
Motorola Inc.
marcc@ecs.comm.mot.com
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Wharf Wrat rites:
>They were designed for speeds of upwards of 80 - I forget the
>exact spec - but for military vehicles. That's 80 in a 1958 Dodge
>Powerwagon. Not 80 in a 1993 Ford Taurus.
Ever' once in a while, you still see a reference to the super-
slab system as "Interstate and Defense Highways." But whether
the military has much of anything that goes 80 on the road is
another matter. A few of their most whomped-up diesel trucks,
maybe, load permitting. The military surplus stuff I've
driven -- "Jeep Classic" (Willys/Kaiser/AMC, pre-independent
suspension) and Power Wagons (Slant 6 in a crew-cab pickup)
weren't exactly congenial at highway speeds, and I wouldn't
swear any of them would do 80 except as a bedload on a semi.
You just gotta love the standard military tire, too, or at
least the one they used to use. Designed circa WW II as a
compromise between traction in icky sticky goo and longevity
on sharp rocks and so forth, it's quite ill-adapted to high
speeds on civilian roadways. For those who can't remember
what they look like, imagine a mountain-bike tire with a
road rib in the middle, scaled up to car size. Oh, yeah, and
narrow too. One of the standard mods for civilizing a surplus
Jeep was to install tires and wheels that reflected some of
the advancements made in ride and handling since D-Day.
But the point made by Wharfie and others still stands: if
you're going to do 80 in a mil-spec '58 Power Wagon (or a
Jeep or a tank transporter or other unwieldy rubber-tired
vehicle) anywhere, I'd suggest the American interstate.
Your safe speed there tends to be limited more by your car
and skills, road maintenance, and the swarms of fools around
you; the roads were designed for going like the devil.
Naturally, neither I nor my employer advocates unsafe or
unlawful driving.
--Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
| 7rec.autos |
davidd@lonestar.utsa.edu (David . De Leon) writes:
>In article <113364@bu.edu> selick@csa.bu.edu (Steven Selick) writes:
>>I've got an 86 Plymouth Colt that I'd like to do a front-end alignment
>>on. Is it possible to do without all of the fancy schmancy gadgets the
>>pros have? How?
>>-Steve
>NO.NO.NO.NO.
>If you do so, you are putting the lives of others on the road at consider-
>able risk. Why do you think mechanics are ASE certified?? Anyway you put
>it, you need those *fancy scmancy* gadgets...
Awww, right, you want all the home mechanics lined up against a wall and
shot eh?
Bull Pucky you chicken! Read the service manual and get your head out of the
sand! Certainly there are tools for the job that are cheaper than an alignment
rack, that do the job as competently (albeit, not as swiftly), if not
more accurate, due to the natural pride an owner/mechanic places on his work.
You can do an `acceptable' job of aligning a car using simple tools and
some imaginative work that would *never* have the effect of endangering
anyones life. The worst that happens is that your tires wear oddly (well,
you could have the wheels aiming TOTALLY pigeon toed and not be able
to steer the car, raise your hands those that think their vision is
so poor that they would screw up this badly!)
I bet you are one of those people that feels that honing a cylinder wall
with sand paper will kill millions of people. It aint magic. Go take the
certification course, and look at the people that have never learned to add
in their whole life that are taking the certification!
BTW, I am disgusted at the Colt (and some of the other Chrysler offerings)
because they go out of alignment if you sneaze at them. My '84 Chrysler
Laser (Similar to the Daytona, a reskinned Colt) needed a realignment every
3 months ... Bolt a good grade 12' 2x4 to each wheel, using a carefully welded
spacer jig. Measure toe in, adjust to manufacturer specs. Camber a bit more
difficult to adjust and measure ... I used a micrometer to measure the
space between the rim and a funky bent up pipe that could be placed on
upper and lower portions of the rim on the inside of wheel (hard to explain).
This same tool could be used instead of the 2x4s. I had made these tools up
*right* after the last alignment done professionally so I had a reference that
the original poster might not ...
Ciao -- Mark
| 7rec.autos |
In article <sandvik-210493225738@sandvik-kent.apple.com> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
>In article <C5uvvD.GDD@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
>rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) wrote:
>> I am also unhappy (or actually, very suspicious) that the FBI was dismissing
>> out of hand any chances that they might have accidentally set the blaze
>> themselves. I mean, I guess we are just supposed to believe that
>> ramming modified tanks into the walls of a building and injecting
>> toxic gases into the building are just routine procedures, no WAY
>> anything could go wrong.
>
>My core point was, and still is, that 19 children died, and Mr.
>Koresh could just have opened the door and asked the children to
>go out before all this happened. You might blaim FBI, ATF,
>President Clinton, Satan, Pepsi Coke or anything else, but
>you can't avoid the fact that one single action would have
>saved small children from a dreadful and painful death.
1) Well, Mr Koresh allowed other children and adults to leave the compound
during the course of the siege; why didnt these children leave then?
I dont know myself, and certainly havent heard any answers on this here.
2) Yes, one simple non-action, ie NOT attacking the compound with
modified tanks, would have prevented this tragedy. I bet you blamed
the MOVE people for the deaths that occurred in adjacent row
houses in Philadelphia, not the government which dropped the
firebomb, right?
--
Legalize Freedom
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <1r6p8oINN8hi@clem.handheld.com>, jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De
Arras) wrote:
>
> I have not made up my mind about Waco, but there sure seems to be a group of
> devoted government following fanatics willing to believe whatever that
> government wants to tell them, without any shred of doubt, nor thought of thier
> own. They sure get shrill whenever their belief structure is being shaken.
>
> Kinda reminds you of the BDs, doesn't it?
>
> Jim
Go to hell. I'm no "government [-] following fanatic." Your sweeping
generalizations evince your own ignorance. What were they supposed to do?
Just let him be? Fuck him. Fuck the ATF, too. They should've done it right
the first time.
joe.kusmierczak@mail.trincoll.edu
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In <C5IwxM.G0z@news.chalmers.se> d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell) writes:
>In article <kutluk.734797558@ccl.umist.ac.uk> kutluk@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Kutluk Ozguven) writes:
>>Atheists are not
>>mentioned in the Quran because from a Quranic point of view, and a
>>minute's reasoning, one can see that there is no such thing.
> But there are people who say that they are Atheists. If they aren't Atheists,
>what are they?
When the Quran uses the word *din* it means way of individual thinking, behaving,
communal order and protocols based on a set of beliefs. This is often
interpreted as the much weaker term religion.
The atheists are not mentioned in the Quran along with Jews,
Mushriqin, Christians, etc. because the latter are all din. To have a
din you need a set of beliefs, assumptions, etc, to forma a social
code. For example the Marxist have those, such as History, Conflict,
etc. That they do not put idols (sometimes they did) to represent
those assuptions does not mean they are any different from the other
Mushriq, or roughly polytheists.
There cannot be social Atheism, because when there is a community,
that community needs common ideas or standard beliefs to coordinate
the society. When they inscribe assumptions, say Nation, or "Progress is
the natural consequence of Human activity" or "parlamentarian
democracy is doubtlessly the best way of government", however
they individually insist they do not have gods, from the Quranic point
of view they do. Therefore by definition, atheism does not exist.
"We are a atheist society" in fact means "we reject the din other than
ours".
Atheism can only exist when people reject all the idols/gods/dogmas/
suppositions/.. of the society that they part, and in that case that
is a personal deviation of belief, and Quran tells about such
deviations and disbelief. But as I mentioned, from a Quranic point of
looking at things, there is no Atheism in the macro level.
I think it took more than one minute.
Kutluk
| 0alt.atheism |
Hi Fellows,
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coprocessors.
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--
rtd@spectrx.saigon.com (Ramesh Daryani)
SPECTROX SYSTEMS +1.408.252.1005 Silicon Valley, Ca
| 6misc.forsale |
Just wanted to ask a question. I bought a hard disk drive second-hand
the other day, and I opened the packaging up and saw that there was a small
sticker on the drive that had a little red apple with a bite taken out of it.
It's socket did not look the same as my existing hard disk that is in my
computer already (it has fifty little pins sticking out from it instead of
the 39 that is sticking out of my old hard disk.
I don't know if disk drives for the Apple (or Mac) are different from ones
used in AT clones, so could someone tell me if I could use this hard disk
on my AT clone? If not, what did I just purchase? It's a Quantum Prodrive.
It's dated 1988 on the green board. Will I need a controller/add-in card?
All the help is much appreciated. Thanks! :)
PC
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <billoshC6Bqyy.H6H@netcom.com>, billosh@netcom.com (William E.
O'Shaughnessy) says:
>
>If you brighten up the dark part of CV043015.GIF with your viewer you
>will see two other objects near the upper left part of the moon.
>One is actually between the weather satellite and the moon.
>
> Bill O'Shaughnessy
>
What are those other objects? UFOs????
| 14sci.space |
In a previous article, gil@cc.gatech.edu (Gil Neiger) says:
>I have a few questions about PowerBook batteries, specifically,
>the NiCad batteries I have for my PB170.
>
>2. Can the PowerBook run without any battery if the charger is
>plugged in?
No problems.
--
Michel Dozois - Gloucester, Ontario, Canada - ab220@freenet.carleton.ca
- Membre du Club de cerf-volant de l'Outaouais {OVKC}
- Membre du National Capital Macintosh Club {NCMC}
- Membre du Jungle BBS {un babillard Macintosh}
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <mvpC5rp8n.3ts@netcom.com> mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt) writes:
>In article <16BB5124A0.PA146008@UTKVM1.UTK.EDU> PA146008@UTKVM1.UTK.EDU (David
Veal) writes:
>> Be cute if Koresh hit the trail.
>>
>> Maybe he was bodily assumed into heaven. Wouldn't that just
>>make AG Reno's day?
>
>*snort* I sorta doubt it...
>
>However... No bodies? By the time this message gets out
>they'll doubtless have found bunches, but wouldn't it be
>interesting if they had a tunnel and are long gone?
If they hadn't killed the ATF people in the original raid, I think I would
laugh my ass off. (Actually, to be honest, I still might.)
Ryan
| 16talk.politics.guns |
the 'Center for Policy Research' writes...
> FROM THE ISRAELI PRESS
>
>Hadashot, 14 March 1993:
>
>The Israeli Police Department announced on the evening of Friday,
>March 12 that it is calling upon [Jewish] Israeli citizens with
>gun permits to carry them at all times "so as to contribute to
>their security and that of their surroundings".
Considering all the murders of innocent Israelis at the hands
of Arab death merchants, I see nothing wrong with the advice.
>Ha'aretz, 15 March 1993:
>
>Yehoshua Matza (Likud), Chair of the Knesset Interior Committee,
>stated that he intends to demand that the police department make
>it clear to the public that anyone who wounds or kills
>[non-Jewish] terrorists will not be put on trial.
As usual, the bias of the 'Center for Policy Research' echoes
through this newsgroup. Here we have an enraged Likudnik who
is venting his spleen, and you portray it as if this is going
to become policy. You don't say what the response to Matza's
suggestion was. Do do not mention whether he was refering to
terrorists caught in the act, which could be a clear cut case
of self-defence. Would you care to elaborate on this, or was
this all you wanted to say on the matter. Why don't you give
up this 'Center for Policy Research' crap, and just post your
biases without trying to legitimize them with a pompous name?
>Ha'aretz, 16 March1993:
>
>Today a private security firm and units from the IDF Southern
>Command will begin installation of four magnetic gates in the Gaza
>strip, as an additional stage in the upgrading of security
>measures in the Strip.
>
>The gates will aid in the searching of [non-Jewish] Gaza residents
>as they leave for work in Israel. They can be used to reveal the
>presence of knives, axes, weapons and other sharp objects.
>
>In addition to the gates, which will be operated by a private
>civilian company, large quantities of magnetic-card reading
>devices are being brought to the inspection points, to facilitate
>the reading of the magnetic cards these [non-Jewish] workers must
>carry.
A laudable precaution.
Every single thing you post about Israel is posted to portray
Israel as negatively as you can. Deliberate omissions are an
integral part of the shtick. And it's not only the incidents
that you do not mention, but even the stories you do post are
fraught with omissions, which change the entire meaning. The
absurdity of your respectable name cannot hide your bias.
In your effort to portray Israel in an unfavorable light, you
have accomplished nothing, except to prove that a respectable
sounding label like the Center for Policy Research is nothing
but a smoke screen for someone with a heavily biased attitude
against Israel and the need to vent it.
This 'Center for Policy Research' stuff is nonsense.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
I've got 2 foot switches for sale. They appear to be designed
for studio use (ie: they're very well built) - 1" in diameter, 6'
cord. I'd like $15, but I'd also like to sell them, so make me an
offer.
Also I just bought a new Ibanez guitar so I need to sell one
of my others. It's a Kramer with passive EMG pickups (2 single, one
double). These pickups sound GREAT and are whisper-quiet. I'd like
to get $250 for it.
-Jason
--
Settle down, raise a family join the PTA,
buy some sensible shoes, and a Chevrolet
And party 'till you're broke and they drag you away. It's ok.
Al Yankovic
| 6misc.forsale |
I have tested this on a 230 and it does work there. So it would
seem that the 140 and 170 are out though. One way to tell is to
go and open the PowerBook control panel(7.1). There is a setting
there that allows you to set the time to wake up the Mac. If it
is present when you open the control panel, then you can assume that
SetWUTime will work.
--
Andrew E. Page (Warrior Poet) | Decision and Effort The Archer and Arrow
Mac Consultant | The difference between what we are
Macintosh and DSP Technology | and what we want to be.
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <NURDEN1.25.734866568@elaine.ee.und.ac.za> NURDEN1@elaine.ee.und.ac.za (Dale Nurden) writes:
>I'm wanting to build a simple UPS for my PC. ... sustain the computer long enough to complete
>the current task and save, 5 to 10 minutes should be enough....
>I think, though I don't really need to keep the monitor active (I can try to
>remember what to do) so maybe I can avoid a DC-AC inverter and just use a
>battery to directly supply the motherboard and peripherals.
Now there's a good idea ! All you need is 20 amps DC for a few minutes, and
a good (wetware) memory (was I using wp or autocad or ...). I thought of the
same idea myself a few days ago. I've got a fairly new car battery that I take
along in my 4x4 when I go camping, and it sits around useless when I'm home.
I wish I could get a batteryless ups to use it with, or use it with a heavy
duty 5-volt regulator to supply the PC. But I guess you'd need -5v and -12v
(and +12) too (2 more batteries ?).
An alternative would be to leave a 40 AMP battery charger hooked up to the battery
and run a 12vdc to 110vac converter running all the time, and when the power
goes out, voi-la ! the 110vac converter keeps on running off the battery ! and
then I could take the 110vac converter and my computer on the camping trips !-)
--
Harry Langenbacher 818-354-9513 harry%neuron6@jpl-mil.jpl.nasa.gov
FAX 818-393-4540, Concurrent Processing Devices Group, Jet Propulsion
Laboratory, M/S 302-231, 4800 Oak Grove Dr, Pasadena CA 91109 USA
| 12sci.electronics |
Could someone tell me what the density of skull bone is or direct me to
a reference that contains this info? I would appreciate it very much.
Thanks.
Vinay
--
**********************************************
Vinay J. Rao vrao@nyx.cs.du.edu
**********************************************
| 13sci.med |
>Marshall is investigating a small but odd pressure rise in one SRB
>during the Jan 12 Endeavour launch. It lasted only three seconds and
>the thrust difference between the two SRBs was not enough to cause
>nozzle gimballing. The SRB casing shows no abnormalities.
Is this the one that had the {wrench|pliers} found inside after
recovery?
| 14sci.space |
I have an opportunity to buy a Radius VideoVision
board for about 1/3 of normal street price, which
I believe is due to a change in the board architecture.
I VAGUELY, MAYBE remember that there was
some kind of serious problem with this board, which
does Composite, PAL, SECAM to S video, Composite,
etc coversions. Plus also generating quicktime movies,
etc. MacWeek was generally complimentary about it
in the April 12th issue.
Does anyone have any information on this board, such as is it the
one which has been superceeded, what about an
upgrade if so, etc. I'd be very curious to hear from you.
THANKS!
--B.W.
======== insert usual disclaimers here ============
Bob Wier, East Texas State U., Commerce, Texas
wier@merlin.etsu.edu (watch for address change)
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <1993Apr24.160121.17189@ulysses.att.com>, smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
[...]
> There are three issues with Clipper. The first is whether or not the
> architecture of the whole scheme is capable of working. My answer,
> with one significant exception, is yes. I really do think that NSA and
> NIST have designed this scheme about as well as can be, assuming that
> their real objectives are as stated: to permit wiretapping, under
> certain carefully-controlled circumstances, with a minimum risk of
> abuse. (The exception is that U exists outside of the chip, on a
> programming diskette. That's seriously wrong. U_1 and U_2 should be
> loaded onto the chip separately.) To those who disagree (and I don't
> claim my answer is obvious, though I found my own reasoning
> sufficiently persuasive that I was forced to rewrite the Conclusions
> section of my technical analysis paper -- I had originally blasted the
> scheme), I issue this invitation: assume that you were charged with
> implementing such a system, with complete regard for civil rights and
> due process. What would you do differently? In answering this
> question, please accept NSA's fundamental assumptions: that both
> strong cryptography against outsiders, and the ability to wiretap
> *some* domestic users, is necessary. (If you feel it necessary to
> challenge those assumptions, do it in the context of the last issue I
> present below. Right here, I'm discussing *just* the technical
> aspects. And no, I don't by any means claim that just because
> something can be done, it should be.)
OK Steve, here's a sketch of an alternative that I believe addresses
most of the objections to the Clipper scheme.
Notation:
+ concatenation
^ exclusive or
E(M,K) message M encrypted by key K
D(M,K) message M decrypted by key K
H(M) hash (digest/signature) of message M
Important Values:
U0[X] local chip unit key from escrow agency X
U1[X] remote chip unit key from escrow agency X
N[0] serial number of the local chip
N[1] serial number of the remote chip
A number of escrow agencies
K[0],K[1] "session keys" agreed upon external to this protocol
F "family key", need not be secret
Protocol:
Choose K0[1],...K0[A] such that K[0] = K0[1]^...^K0[A]
Remote chip does same for K[1],K1[1],...,K1[A].
Compute the following:
L0[1] = E(K0[1], U0[1])
...
L0[A] = E(K0[A], U0[A])
L[0] = N[0] + E(N[0] + L0[1] + ... + L0[A], F)
Remote chip does the same for L1[1],...,L1[A],L[1]
Send L[0] to remote chip and receive L[1] from remote chip
Compute:
KE[0] = H(K[0] + N[0] + L0[1] + ... + L0[A]
+ K[1] + D(L[1], F)
KD[0] = H(K[1] + D(L[1], F)
+ K[0] + N[0] + L0[1] + ... + L0[A]
Note that D(L[1], F) = N[1] + L1[1] + ... + L1[A]
Remote chip does the same for KE[1] and KD[1]
User data is encrypted (decrypted) with keys KE[0], KE[1]
(KD[0], KD[1])
Assumptions:
No trap doors in E(), D() and H(). H() is not invertible.
Algorithms for E(), D() and H() are secret. Otherwise a software
implementation (bogus chip) could communicate with a real chip.
The chip only supports the following operation:
1) Return N[0]
2) Load K0[x]
3) Return E(K0[x], U0[x])
4) Return E(N[0] + L0[1] + ... + L0[A], F)
5) Given E(N[1] + L1[1] + ... + L1[A], F),
return N[1],L1[1],...,L1[A]
6) Load K[1]
7) Given E(N[1] + L1[1] + ... + L1[A], F),
compute KE[0], KD[0]
8) Given M, return E(M, KE[0])
9) Given M, return D(M, KD[0])
Anything programmed into the chip can be determined by destroying
the chip (U[1],...,U[A],F,N[0]).
U[1],...,U[A] can not be determined except by destroying the chip.
(Unfortunately this may not be true in reality. I suppose it's
possible to determine how a chip has been programmed with a
sophisticated[sp?] x-ray machine to look for blown fuses.)
The U's are programmed independantly by the escrow agencies.
Notes:
For tapping escrow agency Y is given N[0], E(K0[Y], U0[Y]), N[1],
E(K1[Y], U1[Y]) and returns K0[Y], K1[Y].
LEA's must contact all escrow agencies with the serial numbers from
both chips and the encrypted partial keys. This allows the agencies
to record that both chips were tapped.
LEA's only get the session key, not the key to all conversations
of a particular chip. This precludes real-time decrypting of a
conversation but that isn't one of the STATED requirements.
Observation:
In order for any secure by "tap-able" communication scheme to work,
the active parts need to share a secret. And if this secret is
revealed, communications by those that know the secret can be made
"un-tap-able". Obvious candidates are the cryptographic algorithm
and the master (family) key. Relative size and complexity suggests
that the key can be obtained from a silicon implementation of the
scheme a LOT easier and faster than the algorithm.
rsbx
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Raymond S. Brand rbrand@usasoc.soc.mil
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| 11sci.crypt |
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