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In article <93y04m18d459@witsend.uucp>, "D. C. Sessions" <dcs@witsend.tnet.com> writes: |> Please clarify your standards for rules of engagement. As I |> understand it, Israelis are at all times and under all |> circumstances fair targets. Their opponents are legitimate |> targets only when Mirandized, or some such? |> |> I'm sure that this makes perfect sense if you grant *a*priori* |> that Israelis are the Black Hats, and that therefore killing |> them is automatically a Good Thing (Go Hezbollah!). The |> corollary is that the Hezbollah are the White Hats, and that |> whatever they do is a Good Thing, and the Israelis only prove |> themselves to be Bad Guys by attacking them. |> |> This sounds suspiciously like a hockey fan I know, who cheers |> when one of the players on His Team uses his stick to permanently |> rearrange an opponent's face, and curses the ref for penalizing |> His Side. Of course, when it's different when the roles are |> reversed. |> |> --- D. C. Sessions Well, you should have noted that I was cheering an attack on an Israeli patrol INSIDE Lebanese territory while I was condemning the "retaliatory" shelling of Lebanese villages by Israeli and Israeli-backed forces. My "team", you see, was "playing fair" while the opposing team was rearranging the faces of the spectators in my team's viewing stands, so to speak. I think that you should try to find more sources of news about what goes on in Lebanon and try to see through the propaganda. There are no a priori black and white hats but one sure wonders how the IDF can bombard villages in retaliation to pin-point attacks on its soldiers in Lebanon and then call the Lebanese terrorists. Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
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Posted for a friend: Looking for tires, dimensions 14" x 3.25" or 3.35" Also looking for brakes or info on relining existing shoes. Also any other Maicoletta owners anywhere to have contact with. Call Scott at 801-583-1354 or email me. -- I saw fops by the thousand sew themselves together round the Lloyds building. DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer. Keep it that way. Pete Ashdown pashdown@slack.sim.es.com Salt Lake City, Utah
8rec.motorcycles
pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes: >If the Clinton Clipper is so very good, [...] Please note that Bill Clinton probably has little if anything to do with the design, implementation or reasoning behind this chip or behind any "moves" being made using this chip as a pawn. Remember, when you elect a president of the united states, it's not the case that all the Republicans, etc. in the NSA and FBI and CIA immediately pack their bags and get replaced by a team of fresh young Democrats. Most of the government -- say, 96% -- is appointed or hired rather than elected. Since this Clipper device has been in production for over six months, it probably has little or no foundation in the currently elected Democratic Executive body. >BTW - those who suggest that this is just an attack on Clinton, believe >this: I would be going ballistic reagardless WHO seriously proposed >this thing. It is just another step in a gradual erosion of our rights >under the Constitution or Bill of Rights. The last couple of decades >have been a non-stop series of end-runs around the protections of the >Constitution. It has to stop. Now is as good a time as any, if it >isn't too late allready. Could be. However, the sky hasn't fallen yet, Chicken Little. >-- >pat@rwing.uucp [Without prejudice UCC 1-207] (Pat Myrto) Seattle, WA > If all else fails, try: ...!uunet!pilchuck!rwing!pat >WISDOM: "Only two things are infinite; the universe and human stupidity, > and I am not sure about the former." - Albert Einstien
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halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat) writes: >>I think an objective morality does exist, but that most flavors of morality >>are only approximations to it. Once again, a natural or objective morality >>is fairly easily defined, as long as you have a goal in mind--that is, what >>is the purpose of this morality. >Maybe I'm not quite getting what you mean by this, but I think objective >morality is an oxymoron. By definition, it seems, any _goal_ oriented >issue like this is subjective by nature. I don't get how you're using >the word objective. But, the goal need not be a subjective one. For instance, the goal of natural morality is the propogation of a species, perhaps. It wasn't really until the more intelligent animals came along that some revisions to this were necessary. Intelligent animals have different needs than the others, and hence a morality suited to them must be a bit more complicated than "the law of the jungle." I don't think that self-actualization is so subjective as you might think. And, by objectivity, I am assuming that the ideals of any such system could be carried out completely. keith
0alt.atheism
Hi. I'm looking for a 3D shark for use in a ray tracing rountine I'm doing. I'll be using Vivid or POV, but it can be in any format. Are there any FTP sites with 3D objects or does anyone have a good 3D shark? Thanks alot! Chad -- .... New in 1993 ~ ~~ :::::.~~~ ~ ~ Sea World of Ohio Chad Cipiti ~ ~~ ::SHARK:. ~ ~ cipiti@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu ~~ .:ENCOUNTER:. ~~ "Make Contact." af774@cleveland.freenet.edu
1comp.graphics
In article <1993Mar19.215728.24473@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes: >Armenians did not genocide Turks. See, you are a pathological liar. Source: "Adventures in the Near East," by A. Rawlinson, Jonathan Cape, 30 Bedford Square, London, 1934 (First published 1923) (287 pages). (Memoirs of a British officer who witnessed the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people) p. 177 (third paragraph) "Armenian troops, who, having pillaged and destroyed all the Moslem villages in the plain...." "Caravans of refugees were in the meanwhile constantly arriving from the plain, from which the whole Moslem population was fleeing with as much of their personal property as they could transport, seeking to obtain security and protection..." (to be continued...) Serdar Argic 'We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for the Turks and then proceeded in the work of extermination.' (Ohanus Appressian - 1919) 'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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Hi Xian Netters, God bless you CONTENTS 1. intro 2. love your neighbor 3. reaction to posts a. purpose b. eternal life I've been reading this news group religiously =) for about a month. Sometimes It really gives me what I need, spiritually. At other times I get a little IRATE. There are all kinds of people in every group and I take offense at intolerance. It's awfully hard to tolerate such people. =) ( OOPS! I've gone over my smiley quota already and it's only the second paragraph =(. IMHO they should follow the commandment to love thy neighbor and leave the judging up to GOD. SPECIFICALLY: one's sexual orientation is part of one's self love the sinner hate the sin DOES NOT APPLY Pay attention fundaligionists. Love your neighbor wether you like it or not. I'd be happy to get flamed endlessly and loose scripture quotation contests galore to defend this point. I beleive this is correct. BTW Love the sinner hate the sin is a slippery slope, with hatred at the bottom. INCREDIBLY CHOPPED UP POST I won't even try to tell you where the deletions came out > means Jayne >> means Dan Johnson >>> means Eric In article 28388@athos.rutgers.edu, jayne@mmalt.guild.org (Jayne Kulikauskas) writes: >gsu0033@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Eric Molas) writes: >No free gifts of meaning. (I never quite understood how any >God can just "give" your life meaning, actually. If he >says you exists to do or be X, that gives you a purpose >if you care to accept it, but is that the same thing? But >I digress...) I find that I am dissatisfied with the little purposes that we can manufacture for ourselves. Little in the cosmic sense. Even the greatest of the great pharos are long gone, the pyramids historical oddities being worn down by the wind, eventually to be turned into dust. Mankind itself will one day perish. Without some interconnectedness that transcends the physical, without God, it is all pointless in the end. Most people are able to live with that, and for them little purposes (success, money, power, effecting change, helping others) suffice. I suppose they never think about the cosmic scale, or are at least able to put it out of their minds. To me, it is comforting to know that reality is an illusion. That the true reality underneath the the physical is spirit. That this world is a school of sorts, where we learn and grow, and our souls mature. That gives a purpose to my little purposes, and takes some of the pressure off. It's not so necessary to make this life a success in human terms if you're really just here to learn. It's more important to progress, grow, persist, to learn to love yourself and others and to express your love, especially when it's dificult to do so. Honest effort is rewarded by God, he knows our limitations. >> I will live forever with God. > >Ah, now here we begin to diverge. I will not live forever >with anyone. > >(I don't think you will either, but you are welcome to your >opinion on the matter.) Interesting theological question. I have a feeling that most common perception of eternal life is WAY off base. If I were to be imprisoned in the limited ego/mind I am in now I doubt I would choose imortality. It would get awfully boring. TWO SERIOUS QUESTIONS/INVITATIONS TO DISCUSSION 1. What is the nature of eternal life? 2. How can we as mortals locked into space time conceive of it? Possible answer for #2: The best we can do is Metaphor/Analogy Question 2A What is the best metaphor?
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Has someone a list of CD-ROM's with no SCSI-Interface and if known how much they are present in the market. Please mail direcktly as I am not reguarly reading the group. I'll post a summary if wanted. Thanks Ihno ============================================================================== Ihno Krumreich | Phone (49) 721 955 253 0 U U N N III X X Synerix Gmbh | email: ihno@generics.ka.sub.org U U NN N I X X Bach Strasse 24 | FAX (49) 721 59 02 11 U U N N N I X D-W7500 Karlsruhe 21 | U U N NN I X X UUU N N III X X -- ============================================================================== Ihno Krumreich | Phone (49) 721 955 253 0 U U N N III X X Synerix Gmbh | email: ihno@generics.ka.sub.org U U NN N I X X
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
In article <44975@sophia.inria.fr>, lehors@koala.inria.fr (Arnaud Le_Hors) writes: |> In article <BUZZ.93Mar31093626@lion.bear.com>, buzz@bear.com (Buzz Moschetti) |> writes: |> > This is a simple X graphics question: |> > |> > Assume you have a valid Window w, an icon pixmap, and the background |> > mask (also a pixmap) for that icon. You wish to place the icon at (x,y) |> > in w *without* the background. |> > |> > Question: What combination of XCopyArea() and GC functions are necessary? |> > I think the idea is to "merge only those pixels of pixmap into w as |> > indicated by the corresponding mask pixel value." Specifically, the |> > problem involves a pixmap and mask generated by the XPM libs. |> > |> > Any clues would be most appreciated. |> |> |> Xpm provides you with symbolic color names which can be specified at load time. |> So, for doing what you want I would suggest you to define a Background symbol |> in your pixmap file which you'll set to whatever color is used by the widget or |> the window on which you want to put your pixmap. |> This would surely be the simplest and fastest way to do what you want. No. As soon as you blit two of this icons once on top of the other with a little dislocation, you see the rectangular blit crashes too much of the icon first blitted, because it draws a full rectangle. The way to do it is masking: Create a bitmap with all pixels to be merged are 1 and all not to be merged are 0. Then, set the clip_mask of the gc to this bitmap, set the clip_x_origin and clip_y_origin of the gc to the x/y coordinates where you blit the icon to the destination drawable, use GXCopy, and XCopyArea() the icon pixmap to the destination drawable using this gc. -- +-o-+--------------------------------------------------------------+-o-+ | o | \\\- Brain Inside -/// | o | | o | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | o | | o | Andre' Beck (ABPSoft) mehl: Andre_Beck@IRS.Inf.TU-Dresden.de | o | +-o-+--------------------------------------------------------------+-o-+
5comp.windows.x
In article <strnlghtC5M2Cv.8Hx@netcom.com> (sci.crypt), strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes: > Here's a simple way to convert the Clipper proposal to an unexceptionable > one: Make it voluntary. > > That is--you get high quality secure NSA classified technology if you agree > to escrow your key. Otherwise you are on your own. > David, As an economist, I'm sure you can see the flaws in this logic. If the (naive) market is flooded with proprietary, but weak, encryption, then truly strong encryption will be unable to compete. Suppose the govt had a secret TV broadcast standard, and then sold TVs below cost. Private industry has a better standard, but it's not as widespread due to the govt early flooding of the market with cheap proprietary sets. Even though the industry's technology is better, the programming is being broadcast to the govt's unduplicatable standard. Who could compete? The other flaw, of course, is that making something voluntary today ensures that it will be voluntary in the future. I went to renew my CA drivers license last week and was required not only to give my SSN, but to PRODUCE AN SSN CARD to veryify the number! Note that a federal law once said that no state or local govt could ever require the use of SSNs for drivers license registration (specifically!). I do not trust the govt that says "trust me on this even though we could have an arrangement that doesn't require your trust." Something is big time fishy. If you look more carefully, you'll see it. -mel ________________________________________________________________________ | Mel beckman | Internet: mbeckman@mbeckman.com | | Beckman Software Engineering | Compuserve: 75226,2257 | | Ventura, CA 93003 | Voice/fax: 805/647-1641 805/647-3125 | |______________________________|_______________________________________| "You can observe a lot just by watching." -Yogi Bera
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Thanks for the info. I assume that this is for MFC 1.0. Does anyone know if this will work with MFC 2.0, or what else needs to be done? Thanks. -- * * - Andy Jacobs * \_____/
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
#21 PETER AHOLA Season: 2nd Acquired: '92-93, trade with Pittsburgh for future considerations Grade: I (B) It is way too early to tell about Ahola, who was acquired probably because the Penguins figured that they would lose him in the expansion draft. Ahola had only played 50 games this season (I think it's actually less; the San Jose Mercury News may be in err here), 20 of them with the Sharks. In the games he has played, he appeared quite solid defensively, although he hasn't been spectacular, and his offense isn't anything to write home about (8 points); it's even possible that the trade may be for future considerations which turn out to be ... Peter Ahola. #24 DOUG WILSON Season: 16th Acquired: '91-92, trade with Chicago for RW Kerry Toporowski and 2nd round pick in '92 entry draft Grade: I (B) I have often been accused of overly down on Wilson; I may have had too high expectations for him, but his legs, knees, et al., are giving out. Nevertheless, when he was playing, he exhibited a strong shooting and playmaking abilities, even if he has lost a step on defense, which, unfortunately, he demonstrated this year as well, as at times he was slow to catch the opponent forwards, and his offensive output was only good enough for 2nd place on the team (20 points in 42 games). But next year, which may be Wilson's last, if he can stay healthy, he can still be a contributor. #29 DEAN KOLSTAD Season: 2nd Acquired: '91-92, from Minnesota in dispersal draft Grade: I (C-/D+) It's probably somewhat unfair for me to judge Kolstad on just a handful of games (forgetting exact number, but no more than 15), but at age 25 he's quickly running out of time if he wants to make it to the NHL. In those games, he did not impress anyone; after generating 7 shots in the first period of the first game he played, he scored just 2 points in his tenure up here with the Sharks, and was even less impressive defensively, as he appeared awkward with his movement and was prone to giveaways. He needs to make a leap in his level of performance to have any chance of making the team. #38 PAT MACLEOD Season: 2nd Acquired: '91-92, from Minnesota in dispersal draft Grade: I (?) MacLeod was on the roster a lot longer than Kolstad, but it appears to my memory that he played less than Kolstad, because the Sharks were reluctant to use him, but were even more reluctant to send him to the minors, figuring that he wouldn't clear waivers; in fact, he has played the past 4-5 weeks with Kansas City, but is still technically there on a rehabilitation assignment, a "rehab assignment" that will include him playing in the Turner Cup playoffs. Since he has played so little, I can't even give a tentative grade on him, but he demonstrated last year excellent offensive skills but terrible defensive skills. #41 TOM PEDERSON Season: 1st Acquired: '91-92, from Minnesota in dispersal draft Grade: I (B+) Called up in the middle of the season when the defensive corps was decimated by injuries, Pederson impressed many Sharks fan here on net, including yours truly. He demonstrated very good offensive skills, scoring 20 points in 43 games. However, his size (5' 9", 165 lbs.) is of concern, and soon after he began to shine offensive did teams begin to push him around physically, on both sides of the ice, although he had appeared fearless in his approach. But to be successful, he probably needs to bulk up to have a fighting chance on surviving against some of the bigger players in the league. #45 CLAUDIO SCREMIN Season: 1st Acquired: '91-92, from Minnesota in dispersal draft Grade: I (D+/D) He played all of ~5 games in the league this year, but was thoroughly umimpressive, just as he was at the end of last season; again, it may be a small sample, but just as in the case of Kolstad, Scremin, at age 25, is quickly running out of time. He was not a contributor on either offense or defense in the games he played with the Sharks. The only notable thing that will go down in Scremin's entry of league stats is probably the fact that he was once traded for now Capitals goaltender Don Beaupre. =============================================================================== GO CALGARY FLAMES! Al MacInnis for Norris! Gary Roberts for Hart and Smythe! GO EDMONTON OILERS! Go for playoffs next year! Stay in Edmonton! =============================================================================== Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu) rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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In article <C4zCII.Ftn@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> smale@healthy.uwaterloo.ca (Bryan Smale) writes: > > Team Biggest Biggest >Team: MVP: Surprise: Disappointment: >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Boston Bruins Oates D.Sweeney Wesley >Buffalo Sabres Lafontaine Mogilny Audette (jinx?) >Calgary Flames Roberts Reichel Petit >Chicago Blackhawks Roenick Ruuttu Goulet Chelios is by far the MVP on Chicago... >Detroit Red Wings Yzerman Chaisson Kozlov >Edmonton Oilers Manson Buchberger Mellanby Manson, by his own admission, had a terrible year...the Oilers don't really have a team MVP...by default, it should go to Craig MacTavish. Shjon Podein was the biggest surprise...Tikkanen the biggest disappointment. >Hartford Whalers Sanderson Cassells Corriveau >Los Angeles Kings Robitaille Donnelly Hrudey >Minnesota North Stars Modano Tinordi(not expected back) Broten Tinordi was back by mid-season last year...and when he plays he is the MVP. >Montreal Canadiens Muller Lebeau Savard >New Jersey Devils Stevens Semak MacLean >New York Islanders Turgeon King(finally) Marois King had a great year last year also. >New York Rangers Messier Kovalev Bourque How can Kovalev be a surprise? >Ottawa Senators MacIver Baker Jelinek >Philadelphia Flyers Lindros/Recchi Fedyk/Galley Eklund Fence-sitting...look at Philly's record with Eric and without... there is no doubt. Soderstrom is probably the biggest surprise. >Pittsburgh Penguins Lemieux Tocchet(even for him) Jagr Tocchet had a near 100 point season in Philly with Mike Bullard as his center...why shouldn't he be able to do that with Mario? >Quebec Nordiques Sakic/Ricci Kovalenko Pearson >San Jose Sharks Kisio Gaudreau Maley >St Louis Blues Shanahan C.Joseph Ron Sutter Really Joseph deserves the MVP nod. >Tampa Bay Lightening Bradley Bradley Creighton/Kasper >Toronto Maple Leafs Gilmour Potvin Ellett/Anderson >Vancouver Canucks Bure Nedved(finally) Momesso >Washington Capitals Hatcher Bondra/Cote Elynuik >Winnipeg Jets Selanne Selanne Druce Gerald
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In article <1993Apr19.205615.1013@unlv.edu> todamhyp@charles.unlv.edu (Brian M. Huey) writes: >In article <1993Apr19.205615.1013@unlv.edu>, todamhyp@charles.unlv.edu (Brian M. Huey) writes: >> I think that's the correct spelling.. > >The proper spelling is Kirlian. It was an effect discoverd by >S. Kirlian, a soviet film developer in 1939. > >As I recall, the coronas visible are ascribed to static discharges >and chemical reactions between the organic material and the silver >halides in the films. > >-- > Tarl Neustaedter Stratus Computer > tarl@sw.stratus.com Marlboro, Mass. >Disclaimer: My employer is not responsible for my opinions. > >I think that's the correct spelling.. > I am looking for any information/supplies that will allow >do-it-yourselfers to take Krillean Pictures. I'm thinking >that education suppliers for schools might have a appartus for >sale, but I don't know any of the companies. Any info is greatly >appreciated. > In case you don't know, Krillean Photography, to the best of my >knowledge, involves taking pictures of an (most of the time) organic >object between charged plates. The picture will show energy patterns >or spikes around the object photographed, and depending on what type >of object it is, the spikes or energy patterns will vary. One might >extrapolate here and say that this proves that every object within >the universe (as we know it) has its own energy signature. > > To construct a Kirlian device find a copy of _Handbook of Psychic Discoveries_ by Sheila Ostrander and Lynn Schroeder 1975 Library of Congress 73-88532. It describes the necessary equipment and suppliers for the Tesla coil or alternatives, the copper plate and setup. I used a pack of SX-70 film and removed a single pack in a dark room, then made the exposure, put it back in the film pack and ran it out through the rollers of the camera forinstant developing and very high quality. It is a good way to experience what Kirlian Photography is really and what it is not. As you know all ready, it is the pattern in the bioplasmic energy fieldthat is significant. Variations caused by exposure time, distance from the plate, or pressure on the plate, or variations in the photo materials are not important. Hard copy mail; Mark C. High P O Box 882 Parowan, UT 84761
13sci.med
o Kenwood Audiophile Cassette Tape Deck Asking $199.00 obo + shipping, (original price I paid - $450.00), excellent condition, well maintained, rarely used. - Model KX-900 - Kenwood Audiophile Series (Kenwood highend stereo component) - Programmable playback with Memory System (used to program the playback order if selection. Program is stored in RAM (Random Access Memory) System with digital display of the song # being played) - Counter Memory Index (when this mode is selected, count '000' of the Tape Counter can be stored in memory. This function is useful when it is necessary to stop of restart the tape at '000' during fast forward or rewind. - Search Mode (Searching for a selection, skipping a selection or repeating a selection can be preformed at a touch.) - Time stand by switch (this is used along with an audio timer when an unattended timer-recording or timer-playback is performed.) - Dolby NR with MPX filter - Bias adjustment (used to obtain optimum bias that matches the type of type to be played) - Tape selector switch (CrO2, FeCr, Normal, Metal) - REC MUTE key (When recording, press this key to delete undesired portions between programs such as announcements and commercials. When this key is pressed, the tape runs forwards for 5 seconds to make an unrecorded section, then the PAUSE function automatically stops the tape. To restart recording, press PAUSE key once.) - Flurescent PEAK PROGRAM METERS - Rec level controls - Phone Jack - Mic Jacks - Input Selector switch - SPECS: Type Front Loading Stereo Cassette Deck w/ Dolby NR System Track System 4 Track, 2-Channel Stereo/Mono, Recording/Playback Heads Record and Playback Head X 1 (Amorphous Alloy) Erase Head X 1 (Double Gap Ferrite) Motor 2 Motors Frequency Response: Normol Tape 20 Hz to 17,000 Hz (25 Hz to 16,000 Hzm +/- 3 dB) CrO2 Tape 20 Hz to 18,000 Hz (25 Hz to 17,000 Hzm +/- 3 dB) FeCr Tape 20 Hz to 18,000 Hz (25 Hz to 17,000 Hzm +/- 3 dB) Metal Tape 20 Hz to 19,000 Hz (25 Hz to 18,000 Hzm +/- 3 dB) Signal to Noise Ratio: Dolby NR ON 68 dB (Metal Tape) Dolby NR OFF 58 dB (Metal Tape) Harmonic Distortion Less that 0.8% Wow Flutter 0.04 (W.R.M.S.) Dimensions W: 440 mm H: 123 mm
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To: trev@netcom.com (Trevor Bauknight) From: anthony.landreneau@ozonehole.com TB>>SU>you would also outlaw abortions in rape cases? TB>>Kill the baby for the crimes of the father? If that where adopted a lot TB>>of people would die. TB>There appears to be a single part of the three necessary elements for a TB>pregnancy omitted from the above expression of your concern. The Mother. What are you trying to say? Please be more clear. TB>rape and could very well lose it in the kitchen trying to give birth? TB>That's too bad. We *must* force her to put off her personal struggle to TB>survive for nine months! Why murder the innocent Baby?" Sometimes, TB>it's not murder...it's mercy. Spoken like a true Jugde, Jury and Executioner. Kill the baby for convenience, kill the baby, kill, kill, kill. It's time for the killing to stop. Anthony * SLMR 2.1 * What's the Difference Between an Orange? ---- The Ozone Hole BBS * A Private Bulletin Board Service * (504)891-3142 3 Full Service Nodes * USRobotics 16.8K bps * 10 Gigs * 100,000 Files SKYDIVE New Orleans! * RIME Network Mail HUB * 500+ Usenet Newsgroups Please route all questions or inquiries to: postmaster@ozonehole.com
18talk.politics.misc
In article <93133.155403YZKCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> Yaakov Kayman <YZKCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes: >So why not condemn the Mufti for his Nazi leanings, and condemn all his >supporters, while also condemning the similarly genocidal killing of >innocents, Muslim or not, in Bosnoia-Herzegovina? Hatred and bigotry >remain just that, no matter who practices them. Indeed Yaqouv, just like the ugly hatred spread by Kahane and Kahanists, right? Or they are exempt from condemnation, and allowed to hate? I know you'll answer me indirectly, it doesn't bother me a bit. Keep it up. Steel (who's never pissed off). -- / .. / . /_______/_/__________/_/_/ _< /____/ /___ / .. /____/
17talk.politics.mideast
Can someone please remind me who said a well known quotation? He was sitting atop a rocket awaiting liftoff and afterwards, in answer to the question what he had been thinking about, said (approximately) "half a million components, each has to work perfectly, each supplied by the lowest bidder....." Attribution and correction of the quote would be much appreciated. Clive Trotman
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I currently have a AD-lib card, it can play .mid files in windows but it cannot play the startup .wav files.. i called microsoft... no help. i cannot call ad-lib since they went belly up. does anyone know if there are special drivers that i need for this? if so, where are they? Thanx in ad-libvance!! :-) -- ********************************************************************** C_ommon pchang@ic.sunysb.edu S_ense State University of New York @ Stony Brook E_ngineer **********************************************************************
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
>> So they should sue the newspaper I got it from for printing it. >> The article didn't say anything about copyrights. I'm sure the whole newspaper is copyrighted. They could have gotten permission to use the image under their own copyright. mark
1comp.graphics
In article <1r3hgqINNdaa@uwm.edu> Rick Miller <rick@ee.uwm.edu> writes: >jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes: >>marc@mit.edu (Marc Horowitz N1NZU) writes: >>Seems like sombody didn't like your snooping around, Marc. > >Or, the more *likely* explanation is that Marc is spoofing. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >I sincerely doubt that Denning and crew are keen enough to react that >quickly, and I doubt they'd want to cripple their SMTP server t'boot. > Marc is not spoofing. Try it yourself. At least, the commands work exactly as he described (i.e. they do not work.) - Josh. -- No pattern, content or thing is the being who looks out from each pair of eyes. And only that is important. - E. T. Gendlin
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Wanted: Summer sublet in NW DC, on red Metro line. Have own bedroom, but can share common areas with others. Apartment or room for $400 or less. Move in Memorial Day weekend through end of August. No smokers. Email PRINAOA @ YALEVM or RFP@JHUVM
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In article <C51H9M.46p@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, rhc52134@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard) writes: |> Geoffrey S. Elbo writes: |> |> >Yes, and it is the fastest defrag I've ever watched. It did a 170MB |> >hard disk in 20 minutes. |> |> I found the MS defrag looks very much like Norton Speedisk. |> Is it just a strip-down version of the later? |> |> I have both Norton Speedisk and Backup, so I was wondering |> if I need to install MS Backup? |> |> Richard |> Yes, defragger IS come from Norton. If you have Norton Utility, don't bother.
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In article <szikopou.734725851@cunews: szikopou@superior.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos) writes: :In <1993Apr13.144340.3549@news.cs.brandeis.edu> reynold@binah.cc.brandeis.edu ("Susan Reynold (w/out the s)") writes: :>I think the scientists are biased towards the food industry or something. :>Was the article long? Would anyone be interested in posting it? :a neuroscientist told me that MSG is used as a neurotoxin...that's :right...some labs use it to "kill" neurons in mice and rats Vitamin A (and I think vitamin D) in strong enough amounts can kill. The key words are DOSAGE and EXPOSURE MECHANISM. -- Kenneth Ng Please reply to ken@blue.njit.edu for now. "All this might be an elaborate simulation running in a little device sitting on someone's table" -- J.L. Picard: ST:TNG
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In article <1993Apr15.193712.25996@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, andyh@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Andrew J. Huang) writes: > In article <1993Apr15.020356.28944@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin) writes: > >I take the electrodes of the Amp/Ohm/Volt meter whatever and connect one > >to each earlobe. Then, symmetrically insert my fingers in each of the > >spark plug boots. No cheating guys! both hands must be used! > > I have just a couple of questions about this technique. > > First, what firing order should I use? Do I start with my pointer > finger or my pinky? Left hand or right? > > And secondly, I have a 12cyl and there are two cylinders unaccounted > for. Any suggestions? > > /andy > How about your two big toes? And while you're at it, why bother with removing the drain plug when you could remove the dipstick instead and suck it out from there with your mouth and then spit it out? -- Domain: bobml@msd.measurex.com Bob LaGesse, Senior Software Engineer UUCP: ...!uunet!mxmsd!bobml Measurex/Management Systems Division Voice: (513) 825-3931 X303 1280 Kemper Meadow Drive Fax: (513) 825-5393 Cincinnati, Ohio 45240, USA
7rec.autos
Does anyone know how to zap the PRAM on the Duo 230. Inaddition I have recently noticed that checking the ram left in the finder on the duo 230 4/80 reveals the normal 1800K for the system file but only about 1/10 to 1/5 of the bar is actually highlighted implying that only 2-300K is being used for the system. What gives? I have had no crashes yet or other software problem... Thanks... Arun Mathur...
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
In article <C65EGz.BG1@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v064mb9k@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (NEIL B. GANDLER) writes: > I just got a copy of spice 5.2. I would like to know if there are > any published books on the market yet and where I could get one. I would > appreciate any help. Thank You > > Neil Gandler > ISBN 0-13-747270-6
12sci.electronics
I am looking for information about this drive. Switch settings, geometry..etc. Conner CP3204F Please reply via e-mail. Many thanks in advance! -- Nelson nsl@doe.carleton.ca
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
> And all of these cars are driven fairly hard. None of them are at the head of > a line of cars going 30 MPH....the first two spend a lot of their operating > life with the speedometer pegged...and the only reason the 84 doesn't is it has > a 120 MPH speedo... > What I want to know is....have all you people who hate Volvos been traumatized > by someone in a 745 Turbo wagon blowing you away on the road, or what? 740 Turbo in UK was good for 124mph. Useful for blowing away VW Beetles, though I believe the Beetle corners better. I can say without any doubt that I have never been blown away by any Volvo, ever. I've been blocked into a few car parks though by shit-head Volvo owners who 'only thought they'd be a few minutes'. This does not happen with the owners of any other makes of car. Not sure how long the small shit-box Volvos last - too damn long. The worst car I ever drove was a hired 340. In power, handling and ride it was reminiscent of something from the 50s, without the character. The 340 only ceased production a couple of years back. I've only been a passenger in the big Volvos, but that was enough. I ought to go for a test drive because they offer some neat gifts.
7rec.autos
Michael Covington (mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu) wrote: : This topic was beaten to death a year or so ago. : The concrete is not the problem. : Lead-acid batteries often fail from disuse (not being charged for a long : time), but there's no way the concrete floor could be the cause of the : problem. Ditto. The only remote, and I do say remote, possibility is that if the ground was REAL cold (< -30F) the battery might freeze an split. But then it would probably freeze anyway :-) Charlie Brett - Ft. Collins, CO
12sci.electronics
/ iftccu:talk.politics.guns / Jason Kratz <U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> / 3:34 pm Apr 18, 1993 / >>Surrender your arms. Soon enough, officers will be around to collect >>them. Resistance is useless. They will overwhelm you - one at a time. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >Listen buddy, if you're going to quote Star Trek get the quote right. It was >"Resistance is futile". Get it right the next time :-) Sounds like a VOGON quote to me..... Perhaps YOU should READ more widely instead of watching that idiot box.... Rick.
16talk.politics.guns
These are two common subjects so I hope someone has had to deal with these specific questions. 1. If my application depends on modifiers, what is the best lookup method? My choices are to call XGetModifierMapping() for each key press with a modifier, or make the call once at the init of the app and store the modifiers in a lookup table. I would like to do it the second way, but I can't seem to get the notify when the user uses xmodmap to remap the modifiers. I know that when an app calls XSetModifierMapping() a MappingNotify event is generated (non-maskable) which I can pick up and modify my internal table. But, I don't seem to get any notify events when the user uses xmodmap. If I use Xt, all O'Reilly has to say is '...is automatically handled by Xt...'. If I use Xlib, ala XNextEvent(), I get nothing. This all stems from problems with users of the Sun 4/5 keyboard and the NumLock; plus various Alt/Meta/etc. modifier requirements. 2. I would like to place a popup so that it will be to the immediate right of my main window. I want it at the same y coord, and their right/left sides touching. What I need to ask for is the x,y coord of the window manager's border for the main window. This should ring a bell with anyone who has called XtMoveWidget(), immediately checking the x,y after the move and seeing that it is right, and in their next callback asking for the x,y and seeing that it is now offset by the WM border. Any help would be most appreciated. Darcy darcy_mccallum@mentorg.com
5comp.windows.x
In article <1rgtba$gtn@access.digex.net> farley@access.digex.com (Charles U. Farley) writes: > >I know this is probably a FAQ, but... > >I installed the s/w for my ATI graphics card, and it bashed my Windows >logo files. When I start Windows now, it has the 3.0 logo instead of >the 3.1 logo. > >I thought the files that controlled this were > >\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\VGALOGO.RLE >\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\VGALOGO.LGO > >I restored these files, but it didn't change the logo. Anyone know what >the correct files are? I believe you have the correct files. I think what you'll have to do is go back into Setup and choose change video adapter or whatever it is called. Then the trick is choose the same adaptor you currently have. What Setup does is it actually changes the file WIN.COM whenever you go into it and change the video hardware selection. It incorporates the contents of VGALOGO.RLE into WIN.COM when you do this. This trick can also be used to change the startup logo into whatever you want it to be. -- [.SIG ALERT] dbstrutt@acs.ucalgary.ca [END .SIG ALERT]
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
In article <boutilie.737308085@graphite1>, boutilie@rtsg.mot.com (Eric Boutilier) writes: |> > pm860605@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Peter J. McKinney) writes: |> |> > Price: |> > PC-Xview for DOS $445.00 for 1 $1780.00 for 5 |> |> |> NCD just announced a new generation of PC-Xview. They |> changed the name a little though and I can't remember |> exactly... PC-Xsomething. |> |> It now supports Windows and their press release |> implies that since it's still priced in the $500 range |> and it's so feature-full why buy anything else? |> (Disclaimer: This is not a direct quote from the |> literature, but I think it sums it up. Also, I have |> never used the product.) It's called PC-XWare. It is based on NCD-Ware, their X-terminal software (which , IMHO, is excellent). PC-XWare will include X-Remote and be optimized for 32 bit machines. It's X11R5 based. It will support remote management, etc. Not an NCD employee, just a fan :) -- --------------------------------- Edward J. Gallant III 37213 Georgia Tech Station Atlanta, Georgia 30332 e-mail: egallant@cc.gatech.edu phone: (404) 853-9393
5comp.windows.x
croaker@highlite.uucp (Francis A. Ney) writes: > I will add my voice to the (hopefully) growing multitudes. > I hereby pledge $1000.00 towards the purchase of CNN, under the same conditions > as already described. I will also post this idea on the other nets I can > access (RIME and Libernet). I'll go in for $1000 worth of CNN stock. Is anyone from the NRA listening?
16talk.politics.guns
Because riding a passenger doesn't really depend on the type of bike. The things you want a passenger to do/not do is the same. Ergo, if he's asking advice, I reasoned he doesn't have much practice, period. If you say he does, fine. I still wouldn't take the uninitiated up a road that's all switch backs and reverse/center/uncrowned roadway, not to mention the BDCs and squids who will also be on that particular road. He asked for advice, and even though it wasn't what he meant, I still consider it some of the best I've read. Lee
8rec.motorcycles
<1993Apr21.205403.1@aurora.alaska.edu> nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu writes: >So some of my ideas are a bit odd, off the wall and such, but so was Wilbur and >Orville Wright, and quite a few others.. Sorry if I do not have the big degrees >and such, but I think (I might be wrong, to error is human) I have something >that is in many ways just as important, I have imagination, dreams. And without >dreams all the knowledge is worthless.. Oh, and us with the big degrees don't got imagination, huh? The alleged dichotomy between imagination and knowledge is one of the most pernicious fallacys of the New Age. Michael, thanks for the generous offer, but we have quite enough dreams of our own, thank you. You, on the other hand, are letting your own dreams go to waste by failing to get the maths/thermodynamics/chemistry/(your choices here) which would give your imagination wings. Just to show this isn't a flame, I leave you with a quote from _Invasion of the Body Snatchers_: "Become one of us; it's not so bad, you know" -- ',' ' ',',' | | ',' ' ',',' ', ,',' | Del Cotter mt90dac@brunel.ac.uk | ', ,',' ',' | | ','
14sci.space
king@ctron.com (John E. King) writes: >Not exactly. The prophesy clearly implies that people would >still be living in the area, but by the same token it would >never be "rebuilt". Obviously , if people are still there they >would live in houses, correct? Their "nets" implies a fishing >village. This is exactly what it has become -- a far cry from >its original position of stature . Looking at [1] we find that during Roman times "Tyre vied with Sidon for first place in the intellectual life of the period"; that Tyre was the seat of a Christian bishop, eventually with 14 dioceses under it; that "the most magnificent church of its kind in all Phoenecia" was the basilica built in Tyre ca. 314; that Tyre was well known for its exports of glassware, wine, white marble, and dyed cloth; that Tyre, along with other seaports, "provided outlets for South Arabian, Indian and even Chinese trade"; that Tyre had to accomodate its growing population by "following a perpendicular, rather than horizontal, line of growth" (because it was running out of land to build on); that Tyre established colonies of its own. None of this sounds like a "small fishing village" by any stretch of the imagination. Centuries later, under the Abbasids, Tyre had "opulent and flourishing bazaars" and buildings of 5-6 stories. During this period, Tyre was "noted for its export of sugar, beads, and, as of old, glassware." During the Crusades, Tyre was the second-most flourishing city held by Franks. (There is a lot more, but I got tired of writing.) In [2] we read the following description of modern Lebanon: "other *major cities* in Lebanon include Tripoli, Sidon, Tyre, Baalbek and Zahlah." [my emphasis] This source also discusses the impact of the Lebanese Civil War, and the Israeli military actions (1978, 1982) on the trading ports of Tyre and Sidon. It notes that after Israel's withdrawel in 1984, "Tyre appeared to enjoy a revival of its local economy." If Tyre is such an insignificant little fishing village at present, why is it always called a city (or, above, a "major city")? Why does it show up on all the maps? When population figures for cities in Lebanon are given, why is Tyre always one of the cities on the list (even if the list is only a dozen cities long)? [1] Philip K. Hitti, _Lebanon in History: From the earliest times to the present_, NY, St. Martins, 1967. [2] Federal Research Division, Library of Congress, _Lebanon: a country study_, edited by Thomas Collelo, 1989. >>In the early 1980's Tyre had over 22,000 people. > >So far I've seen stated figurers ranging from 15,000 to 22,000. >Let's assume the latter one is correct. By modern standards >we are talking about a one-horse town. A one-horse town? Sounds like a lot of work for one horse. (Anyway, Tyre is connected by roads to the mainland. They may even use cars these days. :-) The 1991 Encyclopedia Britannica says "Pop. (1982 est.) 23,000." Most other references give figures in the 14-17 thousand range. (One atlas gives the population of Tyre as 60,000; the same source give comparatively high figures for Sidon and Beirut, also, so I doubt that it is a typo. Perhaps these were figures for the cities and their surrounding areas.) I don't doubt that the population of Tyre has fluctuated over the last few decades. In particular, the 1982 Israeli military action hurt Tyre quite a bit. >> After Alex the G it fell once more in the 1200's, I believe. What >>other times did it fall that you were thinking of? > >To Egypt (250 bce); to the Seleucids (198 bce); Rome (63 bce); after >Rome it fell to various Arab contingents until 1124 ce when it was >captured in the Crusades; it was then recaptured again by the Muslims >in 1291 ce and subsequently pillaged; then the French, Turks, British, >and today, Lebanon. I thought you were talking about times that Tyre was destroyed. Don't most, if not all, of these apply not just to Tyre but to the other cities in the area? Sidon, for example? Can you make a case for Tyre having been singled out? >>Well, it recovered enough to have a thriving commerce in the dye >>"Tyrian purple" in Roman times. > >This is correct, but they were under Roman domination, and the >majority of the created wealth was siphoned off. The prophesy >hold true. They had a good deal of autonomy under the Seleucids. From [2]: Tyre "receiv[ed] the rights [of autonomy] from Antiochus Ephiphanes and from 125 BC onward enjoy[ed] complete autonomy. She started a large series of coins, occasionally in gold ..." The descriptions of Tyre under the Romans don't seem to fit your characterization, either. And under the Abbasids it seems to have been allowed to flourish. I still think you are stretching when you try to describe Tyre as having been nothing but a small fishing village. >Who is Josh McDowell. A Christian apologist whose standards of scholarship are quite low. He happens to quote the same source you quote (Nina Jidejian, _Tyre through the Ages_, Beirut, Dar El-Mashreq Publishers, 1969). The same sentence, in fact. He defends the fulfillment of the prophecy using the same argument you are using, an argument that I haven't seen in print anywhere else, which is why I jumped to the conclusion that you were quoting Josh. (I tried to find the Jidejian book, but it isn't listed in Books in Print. Can you tell me more about it? Her descriptions are so much at odds with everything else I've read; I'm curious to know why.) dj
19talk.religion.misc
In article <1qvh8n$gf4@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> friedenb@maple.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg) writes: > In article <1qvfik$6rf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John W. Redelfs) writes: > |> > |> Now that Big Brother has rubbed out one minority religion in Waco, who is > |> next? The Mormons or Jews? > > Give me a break. If the Mormons fortified Utah and armed it to the teeth, > and were involved in illegal activity, then they deserve whatever they get. > Where were you brought up? In the former USSR? Is Innocent until proven guilty by a jury of your peers, NOT Dan Rather, dead in this country? Seems so. Is tax evasion, the only charge brought against the BDs, punishable by death in this country, now? > You are making a ludicrous suggestion. > Not really. You are a blind idiot. > |> We used to live in a country where everyone enjoyed the free exercise of > |> their rights to worship and bear arms. Now we don't. > > Does that include the right to murder little children? How about killing > ATF officers? I do not know much about the gun laws in Texas, but > Koresh's folks claimed to have grenades, grenade launchers, and rocket > launchers. I am not sure that the NRA feels that this falls under > "right to bear arms." "Not sure", yet you condem them to death for it? If the BATF had stayed home, all would be alive, now. So who murdered who? > > |> Of course, to Jews and Mormons this is just a broken record. It has > |> happened before. > > Please explain. I do not remember Jews or Mormons (as a group) overtly > breaking a judicious (a.k.a. non-Nazi) law and being punished for it. > You have a short memory. > |> I'll bet all you cult haters are happy now, right? Just hope you're not next. > > Followups to /dev/null > > Alternative followups set to talk.religion.misc > Sleep well, tonite, heartless idiot. Sleep the sleep of the simple-minded. I shall weep for my country, myself. > > |> ------------ John W. Redelfs, cj195@cleveland.freenet.edu ------------- > |> --------- All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --------- > > Gedaliah Friedenberg > -=-Department of Mechanical Engineering > -=-Department of Metallurgy, Mechanics and Materials Science > -=-Michigan State University > > > I'm short of patience tonite, but rabid dogs deserve and get better treatment than the BDs got. Jim -- jmd@handheld.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I'm always rethinking that. There's never been a day when I haven't rethought that. But I can't do that by myself." Bill Clinton 6 April 93 "If I were an American, as I am an Englishman, while a foreign troop was landed in my country, I never would lay down my arms,-never--never--never!" WILLIAM PITT, EARL OF CHATHAM 1708-1778 18 Nov. 1777
19talk.religion.misc
In article <MUCIT.93Apr20144400@vein.cs.rochester.edu>, mucit@cs.rochester.edu (Bulent Murtezaoglu) writes: |> In article <1993Apr20.164517.20876@kpc.com> henrik@quayle.kpc.com writes: |> [stuff deleted] |> henrik] Country. Turks and Azeris consistantly WANT to drag ARMENIA into the henrik] KARABAKH conflict with Azerbaijan. BM] Gimme a break. CAPITAL letters, or NOT, the above is pure nonsense. It BM] seems to me that short sighted Armenians are escalating the hostilities ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Again, Armenians in KARABAKH are SIMPLY defending themselves. What do want them to do. Lay down their ARMS and let Azeris walk all over them. BM] while hoping that Turkey will stay out. Stop and think for a moment, BM] will you? Armenia doesn't need anyone to drag her into the conflict, it BM] is a part of it. Armenians KNEW from the begining that TURKS were FULLY engaged training AZERIS militarily to fight against KARABAKHI-Armenians. henrik] The KARABAKHI-ARMENIANS who have lived in their HOMELAND for 3000 henrik] years (CUT OFF FROM ARMENIA and GIVEN TO AZERIS BY STALIN) are the henrik] ones DIRECTLY involved in the CONFLICT. They are defending henrik] themselves against AZERI AGGRESSION. BM] Huh? You didn't expect Azeri's to be friendly to forces fighting with them BM] within their borders? Well, history is SAD. Remember, those are relocated Azeris into the Armenian LAND of KARABAKH by the STALIN regime. henrik] At last, I hope that the U.S. insists that Turkey stay out of the henrik] KARABAKH crisis so that the repeat of the CYPRUS invasion WILL NEVER henrik] OCCUR again. BM] You're not playing with a full deck, are you? Where would Turkey invade? It is not up to me to speculate but I am sure Turkey would have stepped into Armenia if SHE could. BM] Are you throwing the Cyprus buzzword around with s.c.g. in the header BM] in hopes that the Greek netters will jump the gun? Absolutely NOT ! I am merely trying to emphasize that in many cases, HISTORY repeats itself. BM] Yes indeed Turkey has the military prowess to intervene, what she wishes BM] she had, however, is the diplomatic power to stop the hostilities and bring BM] the parties to the negotiating table. That's hard to do when Armenians BM] are attacking Azeri towns. So, let me understand in plain WORDS what you are saying; Turkey wants a PEACEFUL END to this CONFLICT. NOT !! I will believe it when I see it. Now, as far as attacking, what do you do when you see a GUN pointing to your HEAD ? Do you sit there and WATCH or DEFEND yoursef(fat chance)? Do you remember what Azeris did to the Armenians in BAKU ? All the BARBERIAN ACTS especially against MOTHERS and their CHILDREN. I mean BURNING people ALIVE ! BM] Armenian leaders are lacking the statesmanship to recognize the BM] futility of armed conflict and convince their nation that a compromise that BM] leads to stability is much better than a military faits accomplis that's BM] going to cause incessant skirmishes. Armenians in KARABAKH want PEACE and their own republic. They are NOT asking much. They simply want to get back what was TAKEN AWAY from them and GIVEN to AZERIS by STALIN. BM] Think of 10 or 20 years down the line -- both of the newly independent BM] countries need to develop economically and neither one is going to wipe BM] the other out. These people will be neighbors, would it not be better BM] to keep the bad blood between them minimal? Don't get me WRONG. I also want PEACEFUL solution to the conflict. But until Azeris realize that, the Armenians in KARABAKH will defend themselves against aggresion. BM] If you belong to the Armenian diaspora, keep in mind that what strikes BM] your fancy on the map is costing the local Armenians dearly in terms of BM] their blood and future. Again, you are taking different TURNS. Armenia HAS no intension to GRAB any LAND from Azerbaijan. The Armenians in KARABAKH are simply defending themselves UNTIL a solution is SET. BM] It's easy to be comfortable abroad and propagandize BM] craziness to have your feelings about Turks tickled. The Armenians BM] in Armenia and N-K will be there, with the same people you seem to hate BM] as their neighbors, for maybe 3000 years more. The sooner there's peace in BM] the region the better it is for them and everyone else. I'd push for BM] compromise if I were you instead of hitting the caps-lock and spreading BM] inflammatory half-truths. It is NOT up to me to decide the PEACE initiative. I am absolutely for it. But, in the meantime, if you do not take care of yourself, you will be WIPED out. Such as the case in the era of 1915-20 of The Armenian Massacres.
17talk.politics.mideast
bena@dec05.cs.monash.edu.au (Ben Aveling) writes: > Don't forget, you are in the country that wouldn't let the Russians > buy Apple II's because of security concerns. That's nothing. They wouldn't let the British buy Inmos Transputer systems because of security concerns. And we designed the damn things! mathew
11sci.crypt
In article <1993Apr15.232551.14817@leland.Stanford.EDU> eechen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Emery Ethan Chen) writes: >One phrase for you....FUCK YOU!!!! >Thanks. Perhaps it's time to start rec.sport.baseball.graffiti, where the kiddies can go yell taunts and insults at each other and leave the rest of us in peace. Sherri Nichols snichols@adobe.com
9rec.sport.baseball
I'm selling a bunch of my older 12" records off. They are sitting around collecting dust and I never use them. I have used each of these records, once, maybe twice if I didn't record the song I wanted correctly the first time. These records are in PERFECT condition. Please email me with the records you would want and what you think a fair price is. I will probably give deals, the more records you buy. Kinda capatalist isn't it. Well give me a yell at pagorm@iastate.edu with any comments. See ya Paul I have recieved a few questions as to what 12" are. I guess I should elaborate. (???!!!! am I that old?) They are just maxi-singles on wax. If I am correct most beat mixers still use this form of record. This is probably the kind of person interested in this colllect or parts of it. Any questions call (515) 294-3737. Thanks and see ya. Artist Song Soul II Soul Get a Life (Back to Life) Back to life D Mob Put your hands together (A Rhythm from within) C'mon get my lovin' Janet Jackson Rhythm Nation Black Cat Milli Vanilli Blame it on the rain (Girl I'm Gonna Miss you) Maxi Priest Close to you (I know love) Quincy Jones I'll be good to you INXS Suicide Blonde (Body Wants U Tonight) Babyface My Kinda Girl MC Hammer Turn this Mutha Out (Ring 'em) Madonna Keep it together Vogue Lisa Stansfield This is the right time All around the world (Affection) Stevie B Love & Emotion Depeche Mode Personal Jesus (Dangerous) Policy of Truth (Kaleid) Enjoy the Silence (Mephisto) ENgland/NewOrder World in Motion..... Snap Ooops Up (Believe the hype) The Power Kyper Tic Tac Toe Rebel MC Street Tuff Rob Base Turn it out Mr. Lee Get Busy Monie Love Grandpa's Party (I'll Drive you crazy) The Time Jerk out Black Box Everybody Everybody BBD Do Me Johnny Gill Rub You the Right Way B-52's Roam (Bushfire) Redhead Kingpin Do the right thing Digital Underground Humpty Dance Technotronic This beat is technotronic (Pump up the Jam, Tough) Jane Child Don't wanna fall in love (World Lullabye) Young MC I come off Bust a Move (Got more rhymes) 2 in a room Wiggle it Glenn Medeiros She ain't worth it
6misc.forsale
I am looking at buying some Companion brand VLB/ISA/EISA motherboards with HINT chipsets. Has anybody had any experience with this board (good or bad)? Any information would be helpful! thanks -- _______________________________________- Brian Schaufenbuel____________________ | Brian J Schaufenbuel [ "There is no art which one government sooner learns ] | Helser 3644 Halsted [ than that of draining money from the pockets of the ] | Ames, Ia 50012 [ people [especially college students]." - Adam Smith ]
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
In article <tecot.735093703@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> tecot@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Edward M. Tecot) writes: >>A professor of mine once said "The difference between a Computer Engineer and >>a Computer Scientist is about $5000" meaning the Engineer makes $5000 more than >>P.S. The $5000 is not just a joke >>Scott > >For the most part, this is a bunch of bunk. I've got a Computer Engineering >degree, yet I've spent the last 7 years writing software that people actually >use. Moreover, the salary distinctions are incorrect; I received 3 job offers >upon graduation; the two jobs that actually used my hardware experience were >$7000/year lower! My advice is to decide which classes and projects most >interest you, and pick the major that allows you to take them. > >_emt Well here is my $0.02 worth. Advice from a grad student. I agree with the gentlemen who wrote the comment before me. The important thing is pick what ever interest you the most and learn as much as possible about it. In my five years of education in this field, though brief compare to alot of people, I had to think about this kind of question a lot. Did I make the right decision in going into Electrical Engineering as opposed to Computer engineering or CS? The more I go thru school, the more I believe that this kind of question is irrelevant. I have come to believe that choosing CS because one does not like hardware or choosing hardware because one does not like to program is really doing an injustice of building and computer and making it useful for something. Everything is interwoven and inseparable. CS, CE, and EE are all a part of a really great discipline and do depend on each other. My advice is don't limit yourself, but make a decision based on which major will give you the best opportunities to learn. That of course depends on the curriculum at your persective school. I would choose a major that allows me to explore as much as possible. Beside, I don't know why the school would make a student choose a major before her/his sophamore year. Hey you may be so interested in this field that you decided to learn all about the making of computers in which case, you suffer a little more and go to grad school. About the money. Don't look at the averages, if you are good, you are going to earn more money than anyone else. If you are a superstar programmer, you will earn millions. Like wise if you are a hotshot computer designers. - Chung Yang
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
# #Do anyone know about any shading program based on Xlib in the public domain? #I need an example about how to allocate correct colormaps for the program. # #Appreciate the help. # I don't know if this might help, but I've just started playing with a program called POVRay (Persistance of Vision Raytracer) that also displays its output via X Windows. It does a fairly good job of allocating the colormap on my Psuedo-Color 8-plane display. I got the source from from a site in Canda. The person I retrieved them from was David Buck (dbuck@ccs.carleton.ca). Patrick L. Mahan --- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM --------- Waking a person unnecessarily should not be considered - Lazarus Long a capital crime. For a first offense, that is From the Notebooks of Lazarus Long
5comp.windows.x
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A reply to a post by kilroy@gboro.rowan.edu (aka Nancy's Sweetheart): ?Human brains are infested with sin, and they can only be trusted ?in very limited circumstances. I would beg to differ with you here. The properly-formed conscience can be trusted virtually ALL the time. I am not so sure, though, about something so materialistic as the human brain. Does that mass of tissue possess anything trustworthy? Your observation would probably be valid if we were discussing the "mind" of an animal, but the human being is only half animal, as it were; and half spiritual. ?At the moment he stops speaking, and people start interpreting, the ?possibility of error appears. Did he mean that literally or not? We do ?not have any record that he elaborated on the words. Was he thinking of ?Tran- or Con- substatiation? He didn't say. We interpret this passage ?using our brains; we think and reason and draw conclusions. But we know ?that our brains are not perfect: our thinking often leads us wrong. (This ?is something that most of us have direct experience of. 8-) Now you have hit on the purpose of the Church. It is by necessity the infallible interpreter of divine revelation. Without the Church, Christianity would be nothing more than a bunch of little divisive sects. ?Unless you are infallible, there are very few things you can be certain ?of. To the extent that doctrines rely on fallible human thinking, they ?cannot be certain. This argument of yours regarding the certainty of an observation or a conclusion is not necessarily substantiated by experience. It reminds me of the theoretical physicist who said that you can never be certain of a measurment because the sensor interferes with the field you are trying to measure. Now, the experimental physicist will reply that although the measurement can never be made with absolute certainty, he is able to determine the certainty with which the measurement can be made, and this knowledge is often sufficient to render the measurement useful enough to allow evidence of the true condition of the field under observation. Therefore, although our minds are finite and susceptible to error, our competence in arriving at inductive insights gives confidence in our ability to distinguish what is true from what is not true, even in areas not subject to the experimental method. ?Darren F Provine / kilroy@gboro.rowan.edu ?"If any substantial number of [ talk.religion.misc ] readers read some ? Wittgenstein, 60% of the postings would disappear. (If they *understood* ? some Wittgenstein, 98% would disappear. :-))" -- Michael L Siemon This quote seems a little arrogant, don't you think? -- boundary no teneis que pensar que yo haya venido a traer la paz a la tierra; no he venido a traer la paz, sino la guerra (Mateo 10:34, Vulgata Latina)
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This subject seems to be incredibly inflammatory. Those who subscribe to _Biblical Archaeology Review_ will remember a spectacular letter battle set off when someone complained about a Franklin Mint ad. (_BAR_ is a great magazine, but the contrast between the rather scholarly articles and the incredibly sleazy ads is extreme.) In this ad, they were hawking a doll with a head based on the famous bust of Nefertiti, giving the face a typical doll-pink complexion. The letter complained about this as a misrepresentation on the grounds that Nefertiti was "a beautiful black queen." This set off an exchange of hotheaded letters than ran for several issues, to the point where they had an article from an Egyptologist titled "Was Cleopatra Black?" (The answer to the title is "no"-- she was greek.) I have to say that I hear a hysterical note in much of the complaining. I personally have seen only one blond-haired Jesus (in the National Shrine in Wash. DC), and I found it very jarring. Western representations vary enourmously, but in general the image of is of a youngish male with dark hair and beard, of a sort that can be found (modulo the nose) all up and down the Mediterranean. (Also, if what I remember is correct, the "Black Madonna" doesn't represent a person with negroid features. It is black because of an accident. Joe Buehler....?) In the presence of all those marble statues, one is prone to forget that greeks are rather likely to have black hair. When one crosses the bosporus, the situation breaks down completely. Are Turks white? How about Persians, or various groups in the indian subcontinent? Was Gandhi white? How about the Arabs? Or picture Nassar and Sadat standing side by side. And then there are the Ethiopians.... Those of a white racist bent are not likely to say that *any* of these people are "white" (i.e., of the racist's "race"). If I may risk a potentially inflammatory remark, one undercurrent of this seems to be the identification of modern jews as members of the oppressor race. Considering the extreme dicotomy between medieval religion on the one hand and medieval antisemitism on the other, I don't think that this "Jesus was white" thesis ever played the roles that some hold it did. Representations of Jesus as black or korean or whatever are fine. It seems awfully self-serving to insist that Jesus belongs to one's own racial group. -- C. Wingate + "The peace of God, it is no peace, + but strife closed in the sod. mangoe@cs.umd.edu + Yet, brothers, pray for but one thing: tove!mangoe + the marv'lous peace of God."
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In article <1993Apr22.112904.6771@ericsson.se> etxmst@sta.ericsson.se writes: >But why not turn the question around, why are automatics so common in >the US? Because some people like them (and some people actually need them). >My guess is that when they tried to couple manuals to the torque-rich >V8's in the sixties the clutches turned out as real killers you had to >use both feet to depress, and that this has just lived on. Yeah, right. Real muscle cars had a manual transmission, and their clutches aren't that heavy. Shelby-American used plenty of high-powered, high-torque engines, and Carroll only put autos in his cars because people wanted them. (Blasphemers! Heretics! Burn them, burn them for defiling a Shelby with an auto! ;-) Real Cobras (and they were the ultimate sports car at the time) had big-block Fords which turned out prodigious amounts of power and torque, and _none_ of them had automatics. >And also, an automatic with a V8 engine can be real fun to drive. Yeah, if you call a gear shift in the middle of a curve "fun." :-) I personally would _love_ to have a '66 Galaxie 500 7-Liter Coupe, with a fire-breathing 427 and four-onna-floor (to go along side my '66 Galaxie 500 pillarless hardtop with a fire-breathing 390 with three-onna-tree; I love the sound of dual exhaust in the morning! :-). There's no comparison between a REAL American Muscle Car and a car with a big engine and an automatic, IMHO. James James P. Callison Microcomputer Coordinator, U of Oklahoma Law Center Callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu /\ Callison@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu DISCLAIMER: I'm not an engineer, but I play one at work... The forecast calls for Thunder...'89 T-Bird SC "It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. You take away all he has and all he's ever gonna have." --Will Munny, "Unforgiven"
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While I don't have an answer for you, I reckon Blaise Pascal is generally credited with inventing the syringe per se. I don't know much about the needles; however, I do know of a southwest Virginia country doctor who some thrity or more years ago invented, patented, used, and sold a syringe/ hypodermic needle combination that retracted, injected with the flip of a trigger, then retracted, giving a near-painless injection. The fellow was Dr. Daniel Gabriel, and it was termed the Gabriel--somebody else syringe. Did you come across that one. (Plastic, disposable syringes came onto the market about that time and his product went by the wayside, to my knowledge.)
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O.K. It would be a shame for Cards fans on the net to go through the 1993 championship season without a mailing list to talk on so I would be willing to look at starting one. Except there's one little problem... I don't know the first thing about how to do it or what it requires in terms of resources or time. So if some kind soul could e-mail me the particulars of getting starting and managing a mail list, I'd see if it would be feasible for me to start a Cards mailing list. Thanks in advance, Dick Detweiler rdetweil@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
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please subscrive me. rpicas@porto.inescn.pt
5comp.windows.x
ec003b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Wizard) writes: >I have posted two new postings on the net, since I discovered how to use it, >and both times I received redicule for predicting the Red Sox as high as >Third in the AL East. Id like to hear why it is people dont think the Sox >can be as high as Third this year. Here are some of my observations: Well, had you been a bit less exuberant in both the tone and substance of your predictions, the responses would probably have been a bit more measured. Be that as it may.... >1. Roger and Frank are in vintage form, and the Sox are rresponding to them. Clemens is always in this form, and Viola isn't really performing beyond what might reasonably have been expected. How do you know that the Sox are responding to them, and not to Al Bumbry, Hobson, or (my most likely suspect) new hitting coach Mike Easler? I certainly am more likely to give Easler credit for Mo Vaughhn's hot start than Clemens or Viola. >2. Greenwell is hitting as he did before his injuries. This was the optimistic scenario, but not unreasonably so. He hasn't shown much power yet, though. >3. Dawson is providing the leadership and some hitting they need from him. How can you tell that Dawson is providing the leadership? Perhaps it's Calderon? Perhaps it's Clemens and Viola? Maybe Hobson is finally showing those people skills he was supposed to have when they hired him. Or maybe it's all a myth. And Dawson has been hitting reasonably well, but not as well as Greenwell, Vaughn, Cooper, or Fletcher. >4. Russell is finishing well. In three games. Why don't we look at this one again in, say, July? >5. Fletcher is hitting well as a leadoff hitter. A bit better than could reasonably have been expected. But don't forget that Zupcic looked like Wade Boggs lite for about 75 AB's last year. Beware of small sample sizes. Still, if Fletcher hits as well as he did last year he'd be a great improvement over any Sox leadoff hitter from last year. Be aware that his career numbers seem to indicate that he puts up good numbers as long as he doesn't have to make more than 300 AB or so in a year. >6. Cooper is hitting well (I think he'll be better then Boggs in the field >and just as good at the plate) Ummm...sorry, no. I can buy the "in the field" part, and I think he'll be better at the plate than the 1992 Boggs, but in general Cooper, while he'll be a pretty good hitter, couldn't carry Boggs' jockstrap. With a little luck, he could be the fourth or fifth best 3B in the AL (Martinez, Boggs, Ventura, and Palmer will all be better). >If the sox Pitch like last year (they have a better pitchiong staff, now) >and hit like they are so far, they coiuld run away with thee division. but >since I think that their hitting and pitching may not be up to the challenge >of running away with the division, I think that they win be over .500 and at >least Third if not Second or First. See, here is where you make that quick left turn off into the aether. .500 is plausible, third is not unlikely, but phrases like "could run away with the division" are likely to get you a visit from the men in the white coats. It's not really clear that their staff is better than last year. If Russell does well, Darwin doesn't go on the DL, and Hesketh doesn't pitch just barely well enough to avoid losing his spot in the rotation, they could be better. On the other hand, if Hesketh pitches miserably and they're too stupid to move him to the pen and bring up Conroy or somebody, Fossas continues to pitch dismally but they keep giving him innings becasue he's a lefty, and Russell explodes they could be pretty bad. Mike Jones | AIX High-End Development | mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com God is a comedian playing to an audience that is afraid to laugh. - Mark Twain
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-*---- I agree with everything that Lee Lady wrote in her previous post in this thread. In case this puzzles people, I would like to expand on two of her comments. In article <C5JoDH.9IG@news.Hawaii.Edu> lady@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Lee Lady) writes: > Avoiding mistakes is certainly highly desirable. However it is also > widely acknowledged that perfectionism is inimicable to creativity. > ... In the extreme case, a perfectionist becomes so paralyzed by all > the possible mistakes he might make that he is unable to even leave > the house. One of the most important (and difficult) aspects of reasoning about empirical investigation lies in understanding the context, scope, and importance of the various arguments and pieces of evidence that are marshalled for a claim. Some errors break the back of a piece of research, some leave a hole that needs to be filled in, and some are trivial in their importance. It is a grave mistake to confuse these. Past snippets from this thread: >>> I doubt if Einstein used any formal methodology. .... >> He also proposed numerous experiments which if performed would >> distinguish a universe in which special relativity holds from >> one in which it does not. ... Back to Lee Lady: > These are not the rules according to many who post to sci.med and > sci.psychology. According to these posters "If it's not supported by > carefully designed controlled studies then it's not science." These posters are making the mistake that I have previously criticized of adhering to a methodological recipe. A "carefully designed and controlled study" is neither always possible nor always important. (On the other hand, if someone is proposing a remedy that supposedly alleviates a chronic medical problem, we have enough knowledge of the errors that have plagued *this* kind of claim to ask for a "carefully designed and controlled study" to alleviate our skepticism.) Rules such as "support the hypothesis by a carefully designed and controlled study" are too narrow to apply to *all* investigation. I think that the requirements for particular reasoning to be convincing depends greatly on the kinds of mistakes that have occurred in past reasoning about the same kinds of things. (To reuse the previous example, we know that conclusions from uncontrolled observations of the treatment of chronic medical problems are notoriously problematic.) Russell
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In article <1993Apr9.125215.5613@infonode.ingr.com>, kbputt@infonode.ingr.com (Ken Putt) writes: |> Don't they always? Of course, they're so much more expensive than |> most other quality competitors, Like who, f'rinstance? When I bought my system (November), no first, second, or third tier vendor could touch the price for the hardware/software combination I got from GW2000. |> Another good thing I have read in the midst of all the Gateway horror |> stories: If you were selling as many systems as fast as GW2000, you'd end up with four or five pissed-off customers too. And four or five ecstatic ones. And lots of satisfied ones... |> they have an excellent return policy! Don't minimize this; if you buy mail order, it's a good thing to know that you'll get replacements parts, no questions asked, in a day or two, via FedEx. |> They're very impressive systems (when they work) Which they do in the vast majority of cases. Remember that it's only the people on the tails of the curve who are motivated to write -- the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it. You don't hear from the folks in the middle very often... They have rough edges, no doubt about it; but they give good value per dollar, and use almost all top-quality components.
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In article <C5v2Mr.1z1@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu> bil@okcforum.osrhe.edu (Bill Conner) writes: >The myth to which I refer is the convoluted counterfeit athiests have >created to make religion appear absurd. Rather than approach religion >(including Christainity) in a rational manner and debating its claims >-as the are stated-, atheists concoct outrageous parodies and then >hold the religious accountable for beliefs they don't have. What is >more accurately oxymoric is the a term like, reasonable atheist. 1) They are religious parodies, NOT atheistic paradies. 2) Please substantiate that they are parodies, and are outrageous. Specifically, why is the IUP any more outrageous than many religions? --- Private note to Jennifer Fakult. "This post may contain one or more of the following: sarcasm, cycnicism, irony, or humor. Please be aware of this possibility and do not allow yourself to be confused and/or thrown for a loop. If in doubt, assume all of the above. The owners of this account do not take any responsiblity for your own confusion which may result from your inability to recognize any of the above. Read at your own risk, Jennifer."
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In article <1993Apr20.184627.4585@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>, cs902043@ariel.yorku.ca (SHAWN LUDDINGTON) writes: |> Tampa Bay will either go for a russian Kozlov (I think that's it) or a |> defenseman Rob Niedemeyer (probably spelt the last name wrong) Rob Niedermayer is a forward (center, I think) with the WHL Medicine Hat Tigers. His brother, Scott, is a defenseman (now with the NJ Devils). -- Paul Brownlow | Visualize Data I/O Corp. Redmond, WA | Whirled paul@data-io.com | Peas |
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ld: Unidentified external symbol _get_wmShellWidgetclass _get_applicationshellwidgetclass I use -lXaw -lXmu -lXext -lX11 -lXt not in this order but in a proper order I am wondering if there has to be some changes in my link libraries or should i include some more libraries. ANy help in this matter will be very useful and highly appreciated Thanks Pramod .
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In <1r7t6fINNq4c@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> thewho@athena.mit.edu (Derek A Fong) writes: >Is there an extension cord type cable I can buy which allows me to plug >my existing power cord into and then plug this "extension cable" into my >Quadra? There are two approaches: 1. If your power cord is the kind that detaches from the back of the monitor (most common) you can get a *replacement* power cord that will go from the monitor to the back of the computer. 2. You can get an adpater that connects to the plug end of the existing power cord and provides the proper end that plugs into the back of the computer. Both cost about the same (aprox. $5) and are available from many computer stores (clone dealers are usually better at having these things and at good prices). Power cords are standard, so you don't have to go looking for some special thing at a Mac store.
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hedrick@cs.rutgers.edu writes: >down these distinctions. In him there is neither Jew nor Greek, there >is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female. If >Moslems do not know him, we may preach to them, but we don't kill ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ As a muslim (spelled sometimes as Moslem) I must say that Muslims strong ly believe in Jesus. Refered in islamic text as eesau(as) Jesus ==> J - esu - s ===> esu (pronounced eee-saw) Yah we knew him well. Ideally, this war should not even be. And even in a time of war, our goal is peace. We should try to refrain from viloating the peace of others as then if we do violate, we will not have peace in ourselves. I don't like this war eaither, It is a conflict of territory. Croats, Muslims, and Serbs lived together before in peace. The rallying point is 'race'. And Im sure that there is a General out there who wouldn't mind being a president. -- Mohammad R. Khan / khan0095@nova.gmi.edu After July '93, please send mail to mkhan@nyx.cs.du.edu [From a Christian perspective, Moslem ideas about Jesus look rather seriously erroneous. I've generally tried to avoid discussions of Islam in this group, since soc.religion.islam is the right place for that. Thus I don't much want to go into detail. I will simply note that Moslems reject most of what Christians regard as the most essential facts about Jesus. So at least from a Christian perspective Moslems don't know Jesus. Again, this is no justification for Christians to hate Moslems or to kill them. I agree with you that this war should never be. --clh]
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In article <1qvfik$6rf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John W. Redelfs) writes: |> |> Now that Big Brother has rubbed out one minority religion in Waco, who is |> next? The Mormons or Jews? Give me a break. If the Mormons fortified Utah and armed it to the teeth, and were involved in illegal activity, then they deserve whatever they get. You are making a ludicrous suggestion. |> We used to live in a country where everyone enjoyed the free exercise of |> their rights to worship and bear arms. Now we don't. Does that include the right to murder little children? How about killing ATF officers? I do not know much about the gun laws in Texas, but Koresh's folks claimed to have grenades, grenade launchers, and rocket launchers. I am not sure that the NRA feels that this falls under "right to bear arms." |> Of course, to Jews and Mormons this is just a broken record. It has |> happened before. Please explain. I do not remember Jews or Mormons (as a group) overtly breaking a judicious (a.k.a. non-Nazi) law and being punished for it. |> I'll bet all you cult haters are happy now, right? Just hope you're not next. Followups to /dev/null Alternative followups set to talk.religion.misc |> ------------ John W. Redelfs, cj195@cleveland.freenet.edu ------------- |> --------- All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --------- Gedaliah Friedenberg -=-Department of Mechanical Engineering -=-Department of Metallurgy, Mechanics and Materials Science -=-Michigan State University
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Picture our universe floating like a log in a river. As the log floats down the river, it occasionally strikes rocks, the bank, the bottom, other logs. When this collission occurs, kinetic energy is translated into heat, the log degrades, gets scraped up, and other energy translaions occur. The distribution of damage to the log depends on the shape of the log. However, to a very small virus in a mite on the head of a termite in the center of the log, the shock waves from the collissions would appear uniformly random in direction. This is my theory for GRB. They are evidence of our universe interacting with other universes! Why not! Makes just as much sense as the GRB coming from the Oort cloud! The log theory of universes can't be ruled out! Of course, I'm a layman in the physics world. You physicists out there, Tell me about this !!!! Bob Combs Astronautical Engineer, Stanford Telecom .
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I think you can add former A's first baseman Mike Epstein (no relation) to the list. Ari
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F.Baube[tm] writes: >> Tsniimach Enterprise is described as a ex-military >>establishment, ... They are located near the NPO Energia >>facility in Kaliningrad, outside of Moscow. > >If this facility is in Kaliningrad, this is not near Moscow, it is >in fact the ex-East Prussian Konigsberg, now a Russian enclave on >the Baltic coast. It is served by ships and rail, and the intrepid >traveller in Europe would find it accessible and might even want to >try to arrange a tour (??). Hmm... there must be two towns with the same name. Kaliningrad, located just North of Moscow is correct. It is the home of several Russian space enterprises, including NPO Energia, Krunichev, Fakel, and Tsniimach. The main Russian manned spacecraft control facility is also located here. Kaliningrad is easily reachable by auto from Moscow, and tours can be arranged. Call ahead though, there are still armed military guards at many of these facilities -- who don't speak English, aren't well paid, and are rather bored. It's a very popular destination with Western space industry types at the moment. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Wales Larrison Space Technology Investor --- Maximus 2.01wb
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In <C65FDw.E8E@news.cso.uiuc.edu> George F. Krumins writes: >According to this reasoning there are no rights, at least none that I can think >of.... > You've got it. What you regard as a right, someone else will regard as a privilege. Followups to some generic ethics and morality newsgroup .... ----------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Nicholls ... : Vidi nicho@vnet.ibm.com or : Vici nicho@olympus.demon.co.uk : Veni
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In <KIME.93Apr20133127@mongoose.torolab.ibm.com> kime@mongoose.torolab.ibm.com (Edward Kim) writes: >In article <C5ro4H.Lww@world.std.com> jle@world.std.com (Joe M Leonard) writes: >> Before folks jump on me, let me ask the net - would the Jays >> have won the AL with a good pitcher from AAA in place of Morris (given >> his run support)? How about an average ML pitcher? I can't believe >> that Morris' performance in the playoffs and series had a large positive >> impact on the Jays performance ... >I know it's very trendy nowadays to dump on Morris, but let's give credit >where credit is due. >It is doubtful that the blue jays would have won the AL east without Morris. Well, when you say, without Morris, you have to mention an assumed replacement. If the alternative to Morris was letting Cito Gaston soft-toss the ball underhand to the opposition every 5 days, then of course the Blue Jays wouldn't have won without Morris. If the alternative was replacement level, then I think it would've been very close, and yes, Morris might've made the difference. If the alternative was Frank Viola, the Blue Jays probably would have won more easily with Viola. >Last year, when the team went 13-15 for the month of August, and all the >other starters were being shelled, and Milwaukee was making a charge, >Morris went 5-1 with a pretty good era (I can't remember exactly). Yes. You can make the argument that the his presence prevented the team from collapsing in August. >Also, let's not underestimate the importance his 240+ innings to save >the bullpen every fifth day. If he didn't help us win the AL east, forget >about the pennent and the world series. Those innings were probably helpful. >His run support was high (5.98 runs) but so was Stottlemyer's (5.90 runs) >and he won only 12 games. I do remember Morris winning an inordinate number of >6-5 and 8-6 ballgames, but this is to his credit. He pitched only as good >as he needed to be. When he was up 6-1 in a ballgame, he just put it in cruise >control and threw the ball up there and let the batters "get themseleves out" >(I hate this expression!). An inexperienced pitcher would wear himself out >trying to make perfect pitches to keep his era down. But Morris, being a >veteran pitcher, knows that winning is the only thing that really matters in >baseball. By saving himself, he was able to reach back for that little extra >(I hate this too!) when the game was on the line. Well, I think is complete bs. What happened most of the time is that Morris fell behind, and the team came back and rescued him. Mostly, this is because he's a lousy 1st inning pitcher, and much better the rest of the way. That the team can climb out of 4-0, 5-0 holes consistently and win them 6-5 is not to Morris' credit; it's to the team's credit. Furthermore, while Morris did exceed the W-L percentage that would be projected from his runs allowed and run support, he hasn't done this in previous years. In fact, his W-L record in 1991 is a lot worse than what it projects to be with run support and runs allowed. Do you think he just came up with this ability in 1992. Look at the 2 postseason games he pitched decently in. Typical Morris games. Morris gets behind; team rescues him. He's not responsible for that rescue. And in both those games, the team just didn't rescue him enough. Jack Morris pitched as well as he did during much of the season in those 2 games; the offense just didn't earn him a victory. >BTW, I think he should be put in the bullpen; it would be embarrassing a >veteran pitcher which Cito would never do, but his era is 17+, how much more >can he be embarrassed? Morris is one of those guys who will reture when he can't start anymore; he's too bad a first inning pitcher to serve in the bullpen. Greg
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>If babies are not supposed to be baptised then why doesn't the Bible >ever say so. It never comes right and says "Only people that know >right from wrong or who are taught can be baptised." This is not a very sound argument for baptising babies. It assumes that if the Bible doesn't say specifically that you don't need to do something, then that must mean that you do need to do it. I know there's a specific term for this form of logic, but it escapes me right now. However, if it were sound, then you should be able to apply it this way; If the Bible doesn't specifically say that something is wrong, then it must be OK, which, coincidentally, leads perfectly into a question I've often pondered. If slavery is immoral (which I believe it is, can I assume that everyone else in this group does too?), why doesn't Jesus or any of the apostles speak out against it? Owning slaves was common practice back then. Paul speaks about everything else that is immoral. He apparently thought it was important enough to talk about things like not being a drunkard. Why doesn't anyone mention slavery? If God's morals are eternal and don't change like the morals of society, then it must have been just as immoral then as it is today.
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In article <0foVj7i00WB4MIUmht@andrew.cmu.edu> Mamatha Devineni Ratnam <mr47+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > >Well, it's not that bad. But I am still pretty pissed of at the >local ABC coverage. They cut off the first half hour of coverage by playing [stuff deleted] Ok, here's the solution to your problem. Move to Canada. Yesterday I was able to watch FOUR games...the NJ-PITT at 1:00 on ABC, LA-CAL at 3:00 (CBC), BUFF-BOS at 7:00 (TSN and FOX), and MON-QUE at 7:30 (CBC). I think that if each series goes its max I could be watching hockey playoffs for 40-some odd consecutive nights (I haven't counted so that's a pure guess). I have two tv's in my house, and I set them up side-by-side to watch MON-QUE and keep an eye on BOS-BUFF at the same time. I did the same for the two afternoon games. Btw, those ABC commentaters were great! I was quite impressed; they seemed to know that their audience wasn't likely to be well-schooled in hockey lore and they did an excellent job. They were quite impartial also, IMO. dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (not suffering from a shortage of hockey here)
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I saw once an article about a new line of Macs configured to work more optimally as file servers. Anyone know any more details?
4comp.sys.mac.hardware
In a previous article, 35002_2765@uwovax.uwo.ca () says: >In article <boora.735182771@sfu.ca>, boora@kits.sfu.ca (The GodFather) writes: >> >> CBC had a great chance for some double headers: Toronto/Detroit >> and Vancouver/Winnipeg, but today they said that the East gets the Leafs >> and the West get the Vancouver game. I thought that they would show them >> both. I'm totally p*-o'd, too! Vancouver-Winnipeg is great west-coast hockey - fast-paced and loads of talent. What I've seen so far is hardly entertaining, with the exception of the odd shift every now & then (of course I missed Calgary-LA & Pitts-Jersey...) >No, because the PINHEADS at CBC figure everyone here in Ontario cares >for the Leafs, the Maple Leafs, and nothing but the Leafs. Half of >Southern Ontario is people who moved from out west, but the good folks >in Toronto couldn't care less. They should show the doubleheader >(heck the second game would have two Canadian teams!), and let those >desperate for news watch The National on Newsworld, but they don't. >Why? Because Canada ends at Windsor, don'cha know! Grrrrr. Amen... >Now I have to get updates every 30 mins. on CNN Headline News, for >crying out loud... That's cheaper than what I do - PHONE CALLS. (There must be a better system - one ring, Adams to Linden, he SCORES; two rings Bure rushes up the ice, he SCORES, etc etc :-)) -- ad215@freenet.carleton.ca (Rachel Holme)]
10rec.sport.hockey
In article <sandvik-140493185248@sandvik-kent.apple.com> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes: > >This is the reason I like the controversy of post-modernism, the >issues of polarities -- evil and good -- are just artificial >constructs, and they fall apart during a closer inspection. > >The more I look into the notion of a constant struggle between >the evil and good forces, the more it sounds like a metaphor >that people just assume without closer inspection. > More info please. I'm not well exposed to these ideas. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Bob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM They said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away, and sank Manhattan out at sea. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
0alt.atheism
ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes: >"The Preferred Applications Development Platform" >according to 432 of the Fortune 1000 corporations >Survey by Sentry Market Research Survey > 1992 1993 >Unix 18 28 >Mainframe 35 22 >DOS & MSW 24 18 Development of what? In-house apps? Maybe, but certainly not apps to be sold on an open market. Statistics like that are laughable, because they may simply mean that there are not enough shrink-wrapped usable apps for UNIX and they have to be developed disproportionately often as compared to the installed UNIX base. t.
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Anna Matyas (am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: > Wasn't Ron Francis captain of the Whalers when he was traded to > Pittsburgh? No. In what still, IMHO, ranks as the all-time greatest PR blunder (not to mention on-ice blunder) the Whalers ever committed, GM Eddie Johnston and Coach Rick Ley 'decided' that Francis was incapable as a leader and stripped him of the Captain's "C" in December of 1990. The whole organization (read: EJ and Ley, and by default owner Richard Gordon because he was too much of a dupe to know how much he was being blind-sided by EJ) dumped on Francis all season, starting with refusing to sign him to a new contract, publicly humiliating him, stripping him of the "C", and then trading him that Spring to the Penguins. Classy guy, that EJ. The loss of Francis (and too a lesser extent, Ulf), was one of a series of decimating player moves by EJ which stripped the personality and fan-awareness from the team that has put them in the precarious position they are in today. [Gratuitous good EJ note...he did preside over the organization when it acquired Verbeek, Cassels, Sanderson, Poulin, Nylander, etc. He stripped the roster but he DID lay a foundation.] -SG (a real live Hartford Whalers season ticket holder) -steveg@cadkey.com
10rec.sport.hockey
In article 4DB@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu, mobasser@vu-vlsi.ee.vill.edu (Bijan Mobasseri) writes: >How do I square this with a respectable resale value? Easy- if it's expensive > to buy new, it's gonna be expensive to buy used. >=============================== >A patently false statement. Try this logic on an Alfa 164. In fact, >marketplace has a wonderufl mechanism to "adjust" the value of the cars that >are overpriced by the manufacturer. If it is expensive to buy new it is NOT >necessarily expnesive to buy used. In fact, it could be real cheap to buy >used, depending what that car is of course. Note that I do not question your >statements on the reliability of Wrangler. I have never owned one, driven one >or been in one (I do love to have one though!). What I don't understand is why >this apparent neglect of quality for so many years has not filtered down into >the used market.Is Jeep so intoxicating, so irresistable and so seductive as >to make its purchase a fatal attraction?. > >Bijan Yep. They are popular vehicles. You don't see a lot of previous model year ones sitting on dealer's lots for any lenghth of time after the new ones are out. The things sell, they are popular. Because they are popular, and high-priced new, they are high price used, very simple. I knew they were overpriced when I bought it... I knew they had a terrible reliability record when I bought it. But I didn't expect anything like I got, especially with a dealer network unable to repair it. Personal experience has quickly cured me of my infatuation with the machine. Dave
7rec.autos
dhartung@chinet.chi.il.us (Dan Hartung) writes: >jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes: >>* The tanks were collapsing interior walls and ceilings putting people >> at great risk. >Dear, dear. They could have COME OUT. Then by your logic, the Jews in Europe in the 1930's were the cause for the Holocaust. Hitler told them to leave and because they didn't they brought the whole thing on themselves. Because as you say, they could have COME OUT of Germany. >>* There was no group instruction of any kind from Koresh or his >> aids after the tank invasion (referring to any kind of suicide >> pact or counter-assault efforts.) >It's ultimately irrelevant who "lit" the fire. They had ample opportunity >to LEAVE. Same for the Jews in Europe 1930's. >While he was there. Anyway, outsiders RARELY see abuse. It's a secretive >thing. All we have to go on are the court documents in the Jewell case >and the mistrial in California. You don't see any evidence of the abuse -- therefore it must be taking place? As you point out everwhere but here, it is irrelevant to this case. The ATF is not in charge of investigating child abuse. >>* No one was ever held against their wills and could have left at any >> time. The people who were murdered in the fire were there by their >> own choices. >EXACTLY. By their OWN CHOICE. In obvious contradiction to the statements made by the F. B. I. >I have NEVER judged them by their religion, but by their ACTIONS. And just what are those actions that you are judging them by? Their refusal to let the government control their lives? Their refusal to submit to unconstitutional laws? Their refusal to behave like cowards? Some of Texas' heros could have taken the cowardly way out too and surrendered the Alamo. After all, all they had to do was COME OUT. They stayed as you say by their "OWN CHOICE". Problem is not everyone chooses to act like a groveling dog in the face of insurmountable odds. But as you point out, they certainly do have that right. >If they had lived a quiet, religious life as they claimed, there would >have been no raid, no siege, and no deaths. Instead, they chose courses >of action at every turn that were at the very least STUPID, if not >IRRATIONAL. The first was to stockpile weapons. The second was to >shoot federal agents. The third was to stay inside. Bull. They did, in fact, live a quiet, religious life -- as they claimed. The warrant was not issued because they "stockpiled weapons". It is not against the law to own as many guns as you want -- yet (Except in Virginia).The warrant was issued for some "gun parts" that are about the size of a half-dollar. Certainly worth the lives of so many people, don't you think? >Just as we don't blame a cop who shoots a kid who had pointed a toy >weapon at him, I don't think the FBI deserves blame in this case. You can forget that WE business. I certainly do blame them. -- He who would trade his liberty for | Karl Klingman security deserves neither. | American Research Group, Inc. | karl@dixie.com
16talk.politics.guns
In article <1993Apr19.141034.24731@sctc.com> boebert@sctc.com (Earl Boebert) writes: >Let's say you have a scanned image of a line drawing; in this case a >boat, but it could be anything. On the drawing you have a set of >reference points whose true x,y positions are known. > >Now you digitize the drawing manually (in this case, using Yaron >Danon's excellent Digitize program). That is, you use a program which >converts cursor positions to x,y and saves those values when you click >the mouse. > >Upon digitizing you notice that the reference point values that come >out of the digitizing process differ in small but significant ways >from the known true values. This is understandable because the >scanned drawing is a reproduction of the original and there are >successive sources of distortion such as differential expansion and >contraction of paper, errors introduced in the printing process, >scanner errors and what have you. > >The errors are not uniform over the entire drawing, so "global" >adjustments such as stretching/contracting uniformly over x or y, or >rotating the whole drawing, are not satisfactory. > >So the question is: does any kind soul know of an algorithm for >removing such distortion? In particular, if I have three sets of >points > >Reference(x,y) (the known true values) > >DistortedReference(x,y) (the same points, with known errors) > >DistortedData(x,y) (other points, with unknown errors) > >what function of Reference and Distorted could I apply to >DistortedData to remove the errors. > >I suspect the problem could be solved by treating the distorted >reference points as resulting from the projection of a "bumpy" 3d >surface, solving for the surface and then "flattening" it to remove >the errors in the other data points. It helps to have some idea of the source of the distortion - or at least a reasonable model of the class of distortion. Below is a very short description of the process which we use; if you have further questions, feel free to poke me via e-mail. ================================================================ *ASSUME: locally smooth distortion 0) Compute the Delaunay Triangulation of your (x,y) points. This defines the set of neighbors for each point. If your data are not naturally convex, you may have very long edges on the convex hull. Consider deleting these edges. 1) Now, there are two goals: a) move the DistortedData(x,y) to the Reference(x,y) b) keep the Length(e) (as measured from the current (x,y)'s) as close as possible to the DigitizedLength(e) (as measured using the digitized (x,y)'s). 2) For every point, compute a displacement based on a) and b). For example: a) For (x,y) points for which you know the Reference(x,y), you can move alpha0*(Reference(x,y) - Current(x,y)). This will slowly move the DistortedReference(x,y) towards the Reference(x,y). b) For all other points, examine the current length of each edge. For each edge, compute a displacement which would make that edge the correct length (where "correct" is the DigitizedLength). Take the vector sum of these edge displacements, and move the point alpha1*SumOfEdgeDisplacements. This will keep the triangulated mesh consistent with your Digitized mesh. 3) Iterate 2) until you are happy (for example, no point moves very much). alpha0 and alpha1 need to be determined by experimentation. Consider how much you believe the Reference(x,y) - i.e., do you absolutely insist on the final points exactly matching the References, or do you want to balance some error in matching the Reference against changes in length of the edges. WARNING: there are a couple of geometric invariants which must be observed (essentially, you can't allow the convex hull to change, and you can't allow triangles to "fold over" neighboring triangles. Both of these can be handled either by special case checks on the motion of individual points, or by periodically re-triangulating the points (using the current positions - but still calculating DigitizedLength from the original positions. When we first did this, the triangulation time was prohibitive, so we only did it once. If I were motivated to try and change code that has been working in production mode for 5 years, I *might* go back and re-triangulate on every iteration. If you have more compute power than you know what to do with, you might consider having every point interact with every other point....but first read up on linear solutions to the n-body problem. There are lots of papers in the last 10 years of SIGGRAPH proceedings on springs, constraints, and energy calculations which are relevant. The above method is described, in more or less detail in: @inproceedings{Sloan86, author="Sloan, Jr., Kenneth R. and David Meyers and Christine A.~Curcio", title="Reconstruction and Display of the Retina", booktitle="Proceedings: Graphics Interface '86 Vision Interface '86", address="Vancouver, Canada", pages="385--389", month="May", year=1986 } @techreport{Curcio87b, author="Christine A.~Curcio and Kenneth R.~Sloan and David Meyers", title="Computer Methods for Sampling, Reconstruction, Display, and Analysis of Retinal Whole Mounts", number="TR 87-12-03", institution="Department of Computer Science, University of Washington", address="Seattle, WA", month="December", year=1987 } @article{Curcio89, author="Christine A.~Curcio and Kenneth R.~Sloan and David Meyers", title="Computer Methods for Sampling, Reconstruction, Display, and Analysis of Retinal Whole Mounts", journal="Vision Research", volume=29, number=5, pages="529--540", year=1989 } -- Kenneth Sloan Computer and Information Sciences sloan@cis.uab.edu University of Alabama at Birmingham (205) 934-2213 115A Campbell Hall, UAB Station (205) 934-5473 FAX Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
1comp.graphics
Hi. My last question for the year. I have a mail-order no-name notebook with 4 meg ram. I never have problems with my huge ramdisk or when running desqview, but Win3.1 and W4W2.0 constantly crash on me, most commonly citing a "memory parity error." The only thing I can do is TURN OFF and re-boot. My CMOS ticks off & counts all the memory every startup, and there is never a problem with this either. Could it be a bug in my Windows copy instead of the hardware? I remember having some disk error problems when installing it. Is there any change I could make to lessen the frequency or likelyhood of this happening (I think win vs win /s produce different crashes, but both crash frequently nonetheless) I know this is a pain, but PLEASE answer by EMAIL because my home account doesn't have rn. And I will stop asking questions now. Thank you. Chet Pager = chetter@ucthpx.uct.ac.za
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
In article <1993Apr26.184507.10511@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov writes: >I know it's only wishful thinking, with our current President, >but this is from last fall: > > "Is there life on Mars? Maybe not now. But there will be." > -- Daniel S. Goldin, NASA Administrator, 24 August 1992 > >-- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office > kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov (713) 483-4368 Lets hear it for Dan Goldin...now if he can only convince the rest of our federal government that the space program is a worth while investment! I hope that I will live to see the day we walk on Mars, but we need to address the technical hurdles first! If there's sufficient interest, maybe we should consider starting a sci.space group devoted to the technical analysis of long-duration human spaceflight. Most of you regulars know that I'm interested in starting this analysis as soon as possible. Ken khayash@hsc.usc.edu USC School of Medicine, Class of 1994
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Short summary of what Bellovin says Hellman says the NSA says: There is a global key G, plus one key U_C for each chip C. The user can choose a new session key K_P for each phone call P he makes. Chip C knows three keys: G, its own U_C, and the user's K_P. The government as a whole knows G and every U_C. Apparently a message M is encrypted as E_G(E_{U_C}(K_P),C) , E_{K_P}(M). That's it. The system as described here can't possibly work. What happens when someone plugs the above ciphertext into a receiving chip? To get M the receiving chip needs K_P; to get K_P the receiving chip needs U_C. The only information it can work with is C. If U_C can be computed from C then the system is cryptographically useless and the ``key escrow'' is bullshit. Otherwise how is a message decrypted? ---Dan
11sci.crypt
In article <1qpd98$b7e@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, taite@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu () says: > >In article <rayC5Mvvn.LJ1@netcom.com> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes: >>taite@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu () writes ... >>> If all choices should have federal funding so poor people can afford >them, >>>then shouldn't firearms be federally subsidized? After all, it is the >people >>>in the ghettoes who are most affected by the proliferation of weapons among >>>criminals. Shouldn't they have federal funding so they can protect s >themselve >>>and their families from inner city criminals? >> >>Criminals mostly (70%) get (steal) their guns from people who buy them >>legally. In order to reduce the number of guns criminals use, you'd >>need to to _reduce_, and not increse, the number of legally held guns. > > Wrong, NYC subway breath. Criminals are going to have guns regardless >of what legislative remedy you come up with. However, it is the law-abiding >citizens who suffer when guns are harder to obtain. Case in point: >Washington, >D.C. is the murder capital of the U.S., but has banned handguns and has some >of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. They ain't working, >big brother Ray. They don't work because you need a nation-wide confiscation of all guns, Ralphie. That's why it dosen't work in D.C. They didn't confiscate the guns that all ready exist. Therefore what Ray said still applies. > If only we could keep guns >out of criminals hands, we would just have a bunch of citizens getting >stabbed, >choke|, and beaten to death. However Ralphie, the amount of killings would go down. Think about it. With guns it just takes the pull of a trigger. Other forms of murder require much more effort on the part of the murderer. >In the UK, I read recently that some young women >have been killing even without guns (which are nearly impossible to obtain >there) and it is a cause of great concern to the Brits. Well-armed citizens >mean that this country will never fear from the government, criminals or >invasion. We may have twice the murder rate of the UK, but who gives a flip? You should! Although maybe you're right. Well armed citizens wouldn't have to worry about little boys and their threats against women and abortion clinics. >Why should we want to compare our society which is extremely heterogeneous and >wealthy to one that is basically homogeneous and in dire straits? Ralphie, ever been to London or any major city in the UK? You know not what you speak. And as far as England being in dire straits, have you forgotten your lines about civil wars and society erupting in the U.S. > What about >Japan? If Americans were willing to give some of the Draconian punishments >that the Japs are, perhaps we wouldn't need guns. Or the Germans. They have >a 20th century history of being extremely reactionary, so guns or no guns >those >suckers know how to take care of bih'ness. Do you have a point here? Except to explain the crap that follows. > Point is, Raymeister, that America is violent. And to put up in an OhSo >DarwinianManner, the toughest on this planet survive. Not the GoodPeople >[tm], >but the tough ones. The top 3 nations in GNP in the world are Japan, Germany, >and the U.S. All these countries have a violent tradition. Pure coincidence? >I doubt it. > Ralphie, only you in your sick mind would think that this is the reason Japan and Germany's GNP are two of the highest. Probably had more to do with the economic re-building after World War II. I think you need to study the issue a little more. But in Ralphie's World, violence is to be worshipped. Isn't it Ralphie (or whichever of your multiple personalities wrote this post)? > Ralph D. Taite > President, Institute for Conservative Policy Review > >>-- >>Ray Fischer "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of >truth >>ray@netcom.com than lies." -- Friedrich Nietzsche > >--- >One man come in the name of love. >One man come and go. >One man come here to justify. >One man to overthrow. >
19talk.religion.misc
Greetings, My question is whether the upcoming release of X11R6 will provide (strong) authentication between the X clients and server(s). If so, will this feature be based on the Kerberos authentication mechanism (and, if so, will Kerberos Version 5 be used)? Please reply via email. Thanks, --Andre -- Andre S. Cosma | RRC 1N-215 | Bellcore - Security and andre@bae.bellcore.com | 444 Hoes Lane | Data Services (908) 699-8441 | Piscataway, NJ 08854| ----------------------------------------------------------------------
5comp.windows.x
What gives Isreal the right to keep Jeruseleum? It is the home of the muslim a s well as jewish religion, among others. Heck, nobody ever mentions what Yitza k Shamir did forty or fifty years ago which is terrorize westerners much in the way Abdul Nidal does today. Seems Isrealis are nowhere above Arabs, so theref ore they have a right to Jerusaleum as much as Isreal does.
17talk.politics.mideast
Is there a update or something that will allow a person when using novell 3.11 and windows 3.1 file manager to view the files with the name of the person who created it or changed it like the novell command ndir ? tim osburn osburn@halcyon.com -- *------------------------------------------------------------------------------*| Tim Osburn KB7GBQ osburn@halcyon.com Bellevue, Washington |*------------------------------------------------------------------------------*
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
The problems with Catholic liturgy are likely to continue for some time. The problem is, in a nutshell, this: the Liturgy is a symbolic action - in other words Catholics do [or should] believe that the _signs_ during the mass - Water, Blessings, Vestments, Altar, Relics, etc - are real. That is the sprinkling of water bestows real, almost tangible, holiness, the Vestments are a real indication of real sacred time. The point of a _symbol_ is that it is understood by all to be connected to an underlying REAL referent. This kind of thinking precludes analysis; holy water is not holy because of anything, it simply IS holy. But, modern westerners find it extremely difficult, especially if well- educated, to think of the mass as a symbol. We are more likely to see it as a _sign_, ie an action that represents grace, but which could be replaced with other signs. In concrete terms, this means the mass has become a commercial for God's grace rather than the real thing. You can mess around with a commercial in a way you wouldn't dare with the real thing [ask Coca-Cola Co.!]. These attitudes have been encouraged by Liturgy workshops, etc. which instead of focusing on _how_ to do do liturgy, have focused on how to create a meaning in liturgy. You can only create signs, symbols have to come from God [or the heart, or somewhere deeper than analysis. The most dramatic example of this shift in understanding has been in the treatment of the sacred species [the consecrated host and wine]. Now, with pita bread etc, it is common to come away from the altar with hands covered in particles. If the Host is a sign of Grace, this isnt and issue; but Catholics in the past would have been distraught at this real desacration of the real symbol of Jesus' body. Modern Catholic liturgy is caught in this epistemological shift. We try to perfrom the old rites, but then we have some liturgomaniac priest get up and 'explain' what we are doing - so we stop doing it and start pretending to do it. This is not a soul filling experience. It doesn't help BTW that we have got stuck witha huge amount of two and three chord ersatz-folk music [again a result of mis-analysis: complicated tunes are in fact easier to remember than simple ones - this was the genius of Wesley and the 19C Anglican hymn writers]. Taize' is only slightly better. What are we to do? Well I suggest rejecting the parish system if it doesn't work for you. Search out a Church where the liturgy is well prepared not well-explained. They exist in every city. This is not BTW a matter of particular style: the music might be old or new. It is the attitude of the church that counts. Also, note that a conservative liturgy - harking back to pre-Vatican II days, does not necessarily mean the Church will be socially conservative. In NYC I can recommend: Corpus Christi - W 12st St. Corpus Christi - W 12st St. - very conservative liturgy, St. Joseph's, Greenwich Village. - Modern, "clean", largely gay Oratorian Church, Brooklyn - Very beautiful Avoid, anywhere, anytime a church with electric candles. Happy Easter: Christos Aneste', Christos Voskrezhne, Christ is Risen Paul Halsall Halsall@murray.fordham.edu
15soc.religion.christian
Doug, those stats are great! they help immensely. I tried to E-Mail you with some comments on them but my mail server does not recognize your address. Could you E-Mail me with some info on how to get E-Mail to you? Thanks! Jim Bragg (jbragg@morgan.ucs.mun.ca)
9rec.sport.baseball
I hope this is the correct newsgroup for this. What is the scoop on Methanol and its future as an alternative fuel for vehicles ? How does it compare to ethanol ? There was some news about health risks involved. Anybody know about that. How does the US Clean Air act impact the use of Methanol by the year 1995 ? I think its Methyl Tertiary butyl ether which the future industries will use as a substitute for conventional fuels. There is company Methanex which produces 12% of the world's supply of Methanol. Does anybody know about it ? Please reply by e-mail as I do not read these newsgroups. Thanks in advance. -- Vilok Kusumakar OSI Protocols for tomorrow...... vilok@bnr.ca Bell-Northern Research, Ltd. Phone: (613) 763-2273 P.O. Box 3511, Station C Fax: (613) 765-4777 Ottawa, Ontario, K1Y 4H7
13sci.med
Are there any X window servers that can run under MS-Windows?? I only know of Deskview but have not seen it in action. Are there any others?? Thanks in advance. Phil pmw0@Lehigh.edu
2comp.os.ms-windows.misc
In article <13608@news.duke.edu> infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew Infante) writes: > >Since the occurance, I've paid many >dollars in renumerance, taken the drunk class, >and, yes, listened to all the self-righteous >assholes like yourself that think your SO above the >rest of the world because you've never had your >own little DD suaree. Some of us aren't that fucking stupid you cock sucking asshole. That's why we haven't had our own little DD suaree. I'm soo impressed that you've had to spend your own precious little dollars to make up for your own stupid act. Now go fuck off. Friends killed by Drunk Driving Assholes like Andress Infante: 2 Children friends orphaned by Drunk Driving Assholes like Infante: 2 Now who's the self-righteous asshole, you weak willed fuck head? > -- I hate the 3B2 The 3B2 can bite me.
8rec.motorcycles
Excuse me to every one. I am an Amiga owner and tired to have the same graphic modes. So I saw on nn there was a little bridgeboard that made the Amiga's PC slots communicate with the stanndard Amiga's slot. The building mother house of this little gadget assure me that using this thing I can use all the pc boards included the SVGA cards. I am interested in computer graphics and I do not know many things about pc in general. So, what is the best (ISA slot) card on the market ? I'd like to reach resolutions like 1280x1024 with 256 colors or 800x600 with 24 bitplanes. Any suggestion ?? thankyou in advance Paolo Silvera -- Certified Commodore Amiga developer silvera@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it
3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
David Karr, on the Tue, 20 Apr 1993 01:01:01 GMT wibbled: : In article <C5qtvL.M73@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Russell.P.Hughes@dartmouth.edu (Knicker Twister) writes: : >In article <1993Apr19.141959.4057@bnr.ca> : >npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar) writes: : > : >> With regards to the pub brawl, he might have a history of such things. : >> Just because he was a biker doesn't make him out to be a reasonable : >> person. Even the DoD might object to him joining, who knows? : If he had a history of such things, why was it not mentioned in the : article, and why did they present the irrelevant detail of where he : got his drinking money from? : I can't say exactly who is at fault here, but from where I sit is : looks like we're seeing the results either of the law going way out : of hand or of shoddy journalism. : If the law wants to attach strings to how you spend a settlement, they : should put the money in trust. They don't, so I would assume it's : perfectly legitimate to drink it away, though I wouldn't spend it that : way myself. : -- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu) We heard about this from a newspaper article. Journalists and editors always pick out the most interesting and sensational "facts" for our delectation. As the editor of the Sun once said: "We never let the facts get in the way of a good story". You must have noticed how motorcyclists get treated by the press. They thrive on hysteria, ignorance, sensationalism and one-upmanship. Unfortunately there's not enough salt to keep taking a pinch of. -- Nick (the Cynical Old Biker) DoD 1069 Concise Oxford Leaky New Gearbox M'Lud. Nick Pettefar, Contractor@Large. /~~~\ "Teneo tuus intervallum" Cuurrently incarcerated at BNR, {-O^O-} npet@bnr.ca '86 BMW K100RS "Kay" Maidenhead, The United Kingdom. \ o / Pres. PBWASOH(UK), BS 0002 (-) "Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for you. It's time to get up
8rec.motorcycles
Here is a different viewpoint. > FYI: The actual horizontal dot placement resoution of an HP > deskjet is 1/600th inch. The electronics and dynamics of the ink > cartridge, however, limit you to generating dots at 300 per inch. > On almost any paper, the ink wicks more than 1/300th inch anyway. > > The method of depositing and fusing toner of a laster printer > results in much less spread than ink drop technology. In practice there is little difference in quality but more care is needed with inkjet because smudges etc. can happen. > It doesn't take much investigation to see that the mechanical and > electronic complement of a laser printer is more complex than > inexpensive ink jet printers. Recall also that laser printers > offer a much higher throughput: 10 ppm for a laser versus about 1 > ppm for an ink jet printer. A cheap laser printer does not manage that sort of throughput and on top of that how long does the _first_ sheet take to print? Inkjets are faster than you say and in both cases the computer often has trouble keeping up with the printer. (I have a 486/33 and a lot of drivers cannot keep up with the printer) A sage said to me: "Do you want one copy or lots of copies?", "One", "Inkjet". > Something else to think about is the cost of consumables over the > life of the printer. A 3000 page yield toner cartridge is about > $US 75-80 at discount while HP high capacity (~500-1000 page yield) > cartridges are about $US 22 at discount. It could be that over the > life cycle of the printer that consumables for laser printers are > less than ink jet printers. It is getting progressively closer > between the two technologies. Laser printers are usually desinged > for higher duty cycles in pages per month and longer product > replacement cycles. Paper cost is the same and both can use refills. Long term the laserprinter will need some expensive replacement parts (consumables) and on top of that are the amortisation costs which favour the lowest purchase cost printer. HP inkjets understand PCL so in many cases a laserjet driver will work if the software package has no inkjet driver. There is one wild difference between the two printers: a laserprinter is a page printer whilst an inkjet is a line printer. This means that a laserprinter can rotate graphic images whilst an inkjet cannot. Few drivers actually use this facility. (there is also the matter of downloadable fonts and so on) TC. E-mail: tchannon@black.demon.co.uk or tchannon@cix.compulink.co.uk
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It's basement cleaning time. This stuff has got to go. I have two boxes of 9 track 2400' tapes, around 20 tapes/box. They are free to anyone who wants to come by and pick them up. They've seen very little use. If anyone wants these bad enough to ship, they're yours for the cost of shipping, the cod charge and a $10 nusiance fee. I have a lot of serial cables. I have all kinds, ribbon, shielded, long, short M-M, M-F whatever you want. Most appear to work well with PC serial ports, but I will not gaurantee that. Tell me what you want and I'll do the best I can to match. 1.50 ea or 10/$10. Shipping included. No CODs under $20. (You want to pay a $5 COD charge for a $1.50 cable? Go buy the cable at your local computer store instead, it'll be cheaper.) I believe these cables were removed from service at a computer center. They appear to be in good condition and the ones I have used have worked well. I also have a 15 KVA Exide UPS with batteries that needs minor repair, probably a logic board. It weighs about 280 pounds and is 36 inches high. I think they used to run a Prime system off of it. Best offer over $75, but you need to come pick it up. Use this to run your house from your solar panels. I will consider reasonable offers on any of this stuff. -- Paul Amaranth Manager User Services - office: (313) 370 4541 (also voicemail) (internet) amaranth@vela.acs.oakland.edu | This space (bitnet) amaranth@oakland | temporarily (uucp) ...!uunet!umich!vela!amaranth | empty
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>I eagerly await comment. The ice princess next door makes a habit of flooring her cage out of the driveway when she sees me coming. Probably only hits 25mph, or so. (I made the mistake of waving to a neighbor. She has some sort of grudge, now.) I was riding downhill at ~60mph on a local backroad when a brown dobie came flashing through the brush at well over 30mph, on an intercept course with my front wheel. The dog had started out at the top of the hill when it heard me and still had a lead when it hit the road. The dog was approaching from my left, and was running full tilt to get to my bike on the other side of the road before I went by. Rover was looking back at me to calculate the final trajectory. Too bad it didn't notice the car approaching at 50+mph from the other direction. I got a closeup view of the our poor canine friend's noggin careening off the front bumper, smacking the asphalt, and getting runover by the front tire. It managed a pretty good yelp, just before impact. (peripheral imminent doom?) I guess the driver didn't see me or they probably would have swerved into my lane. The squeegeed pup actually got up and headed back home, but I haven't seen it since. Sniff. Sometimes Fate sees you and smiles. -Rick
8rec.motorcycles
In article <1993Mar19.215728.24473@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes: >Armenians did not genocide Turks. See, you are a compulsive liar. Source: "Men Are Like That" by Leonard Ramsden Hartill. The Bobbs-Merrill Company, Indianapolis (1926). (305 pages). (Memoirs of an Armenian officer who participated in the genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people) p. 202 (first and second paragraphs). "Some of the Tartars escaped of course. They found refuge in the mountains or succeeded in crossing the border into Turkey. The rest were killed. And so it is that the whole length of the borderland of Russian Armenia from Nakhitchevan to Akhalkalaki from the hot plains of Ararat to the cold mountain plateau of the North were dotted with mute mournful ruins of Tartar villages. They are quiet now, those villages, except for howling of wolves and jackals that visit them to paw over the scattered bones of the dead." (to be continued...) Serdar Argic 'We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for the Turks and then proceeded in the work of extermination.' (Ohanus Appressian - 1919) 'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes: >In an article published in this morning's Pittsburgh Post Gazette, >KBL (the Pgh. cable sports channel) President Bill Craig has >confirmed that he has had preliminary talks with the Mouth of >the North, Don Cherry. Craig said he is interested in hiring Cherry >as color commentator and for post game duties. >Others being considered for the open broadcasting jobs are current >Pens announcers Mike Lange and Paul Steigerwald (Craig spoke to >both yesterday), KBL's Stan Savaran and Guy Junker, ESPN's Mike >Emrick, MN broadcaster Doug McCloud, and TSN's Jim Hughson. >KBL and the Penguins have just inked a new deal, giving KBL all >TV and radio rights to Pens games. Plans are that KBL would like >to have an entire night of hockey, starting with a 7:00 pre-game >show and running to a post game show that would sign off about 11:00 >(depending upon length of the game). >Don Cherry announcing Penguins games. Yeah, and (to quote Pgh's >goofy mayor) I'm the Queen of Sheba. Considering how often and how badly he has slammed the Pens on Coach's Corner on Hockey Night in Canada, it would surprise me as well. But then, people will do anything for money, won't they? >Lori >Contact for the Penguins >lli+@cs.cmu.edu --Randy
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In article <HM.93Apr15113851@yoda.cs.brown.edu>, hm@cs.brown.edu (Harry Mamaysky) writes: |> In article <1qhuhm$ep8@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cl056@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Hamaza H. Salah) writes: |> |> [ in reference to Benjamin Netanyahu ] |> |> didn't this guy go crying on the "zionist" tv confessing |> that he committed adultary, and was cheating on his wife.. |> |> a typical jew leader, huh? |> |> Just to remind all loyal listeners, Benjamin is the brother of |> Yonatan Netanyahu. Do we all remember Entebbe? Absolutely. If Yoni and Bibi Natanyahu are "typical jew leader"s, then I personally am proud to aspire to such a status (disregarding Hamaza H. Salah's negative connotation of Jews). Yoni was a great man and a Harvard grad who died for his country and people. Bibi is also a great leader who will undoubtedly be a major force in Middle East politics for many years to come. |> Harry. Gedaliah Friedenberg -=-Department of Mechanical Engineering -=-Department of Metallurgy, Mechanics and Materials Science -=-Michigan State University
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>kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) writes: >> When I entered 1st grade, Eisenhower was President and John F. Kennedy >> was just a relatively obscure Senator from New England. So how old do >> you think I am now? And we all hope, Teddy, that you will graduate from the first grade while Clinton is President. Keep trying. -- Disclaimer: :remialcsiD
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In article <AfnKOVK00UhB01RDtJ@andrew.cmu.edu>, Robert Angelo Pleshar <rp16+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > <kfnJYea00Uh_I1VmUs@andrew.cmu.edu> > NNTP-Posting-Host: po5.andrew.cmu.edu > In-Reply-To: <kfnJYea00Uh_I1VmUs@andrew.cmu.edu> > > from Anna Matyas: >>>Now if we could just clone Chelios's personality and transplant it >>>into all of the defensemen on the Islanders, Capitals, and Devils... >>> >>>Gerald >> >>In other words, you want to turn them all into assholes so they >>will spend lots of time in the penalty box and get lots of >>misconducts? >> >>And this comes from a Chelios fan... > > Yeah, and also be second in the team in scoring and play about 35 > minutes a game and play on the power play and kill penalties and be the > best defenseman in the league. I'd take a whole team of Chelioses if I > could. (That way, when one got a penalty the others could kill it!) > > Ralph >HOW TO BEAT PITTSBURGH??? I.Mario Lemieux A.Death 1.Too much Kimo 2.Slash to skull 3.Ask the Rangers (Slashing his wrist????) II.Jaromir Jagr A.Deportation 1.Send him back to whatever Commie country he's from 2.Tell him that Bill Clinton is going too III.Kevin Stevens A.Fighting 1.Call Bob Probert 2.Call Tie Domi 3.Call my grandmother (She'd kick his ass)
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