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In article <1993Apr22.204406.20330@vpnet.chi.il.us>, lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky) writes:
|>
|> (1) Is it possible to change the icons in the program groups? I'd like
|> to give them some individuality.
|>
|> (2) Can you set up a short-cut key to return to the Program Manager?
|> I know <CTL><ESC>, <ESC> will do it, but I'd rather set it up so I
|> can avoid the task list and get back to the P/M with <ALT><F1>.
I use PlugIn, an enhancement to Program Manager. It allows (1) for sure, I
don't know on (2). Anyway, give it a try. I like it a lot and registered it
right away It can be found at ftp.cica.indiana.edu [129.79.20.84] in
/pub/pc/win3/util/plugin13.zip
-Bruce
--
Bruce F. Steinke | "Never know when you're going to
bsteinke@dsd.es.com | need a good piece of rope."
Software Technical Support Engineer | Sam Gamgee
Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp. | <My mail, My Opinions>
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are
over all his works.
JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fa-
thers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor
spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
The Engimatic Vincent Gray writes:
>king@cogsci.ucsd.edu (Jonathan King) writes:
>>
>> Even less publicized than this, however, was that the $300,000
>> didn't come from the Padres, but from an un-named source, and that the
>> money didn't go to the Blue Jays. In Toronto, the money was diverted
>> into a London bank account owned by a shadowy character named Vincent
>> Gray.
>
>I should be so lucky: the account number must have been rejected! :-)
Oh, come on. Everybody on the net has heard about "plausible deniability".
You're not fooling anybody.
>> Soon after that, Gray and Palmer sent word to Ottawa that Canada had
>> achieved absolute superiority over the United States in the field of
>> baseballistic research, as she controlled both the Acker-Cook
>> Pitch-Alike Contest and the Binaca Blast Research Institute. The Prime
>> Minister smiled.
>
>I hope not. To think that I would inadvertantly give any pleasure to
>Mulroney _really_ ruins my day.
Note how quick Vince was to make the inference that my post claimed
that Mulroney was smiling at the baseballistics news. This sure looks
like guilty knowledge to me...
>Realizing the taterific importance of this work, John Palmer and I
>concluded that we might be able to pool some resources.
^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^
I.e., the $300 grand.
>Who will be the stars this year? Can anyone hope to combat Brad
>Arnsberg's record start to last year?
The early money has to be on "Tom Tom" Bolton, who contributed that
clutch grandslam in his first appearance. But I expect lots of
strong contenders this year, many of them right here in San Diego.
jking
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <C5sHE2.LKF@ucdavis.edu> ez027993@chip.ucdavis.edu (Gary
Built Like Villanueva Huckabay) writes:
> You want to speed up ballgames?
>1. Enforce the two minutes between innings. As it is, many fields are
> allowing THREE minutes between them. Fifteen seconds before
> TV commercials are gone to, Thirty or so before action begins upon
> the return to the game. Two minutes, last out to first pitch, or
> a ball is called.
>2. Don't grant time to batters just because they want it. They may get
> pissed at first, but they'll get in line, once anything the pitcher
> throws while they're adjusting their wristbands is a strike.
>3. Mandate a rule permitting only N seconds between pitches (the current
> rule is too lenient), and then enforce it. Fifteen seconds is more
> than enough time. If the pitch isn't released in 15, call it a ball,
> and restart the clock.
I've only ever seen this called once. Back around 1979-1980. I think
that Steve Carlton was pitching. On the other hand, I am not sure how
much effect this would have. It seems that most of the time lost is
when there are runners on base and the rule does not cover this.
I have wondered why a pitcher is given 8 pitches when he enters the
game. Let's be serious. The relief pitcher has normally been
throwing out in the bullpen for a few minutes. Does he really need 8
more pitches?
--
Pablo Iglesias
pi@ruth.ece.jhu.edu
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
For the past week or so I've been trying to install a QIC-36 tape drive
and an everex 8bit full size controller in my 486dx50 EISA system with no
luck. I end up getting an error (miscompare) during the streaming read
part of the test. I am pretty certain that the port setting, irq & dma are
set properly since the tape responds properly to all commands, rewind,
retension, write and erase, I also booted the system clean and still the
same proble so I also tend to eliminate any memory conflicts. It has been
suggested that my bus speed is too fast and that I need to slow it down.
My system has an AMI BIOS and I don't have the advanced chip setting
option that I have seen on other systems so I cant do this. Am I going to
have to accept that this set up won't work? or can anyone suggest a work
around? I will be glad to hear your advice/suggestions.
Tony
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
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| 1comp.graphics |
In article <115621@bu.edu>, jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
> In article <1993Apr15.135650.28926@st-andrews.ac.uk> nrp@st-andrews.ac.uk (Norman R. Paterson) writes:
>
>>I don't think you're right about Germany. My daughter was born there and
>>I don't think she has any German rights eg to vote or live there (beyond the
>>rights of all EC citizens). She is a British citizen by virtue of
>>her parentage, but that's not "full" citizenship. For example, I don't think
>>her children could be British by virtue of her in the same way.
>
> I am fairly sure that she could obtain citizenship by making an
> application for it. It might require immigration to Germany, but
> I am almost certain that once applied for citizenship is inevitable
> in this case.
Nope, Germany has extremely restrictive citizenship laws. The
ethnic Germans who have lived in Russia for over 100 years
automatically become citizens if they move to Germany, but the
Turks who are now in their third generation in Germany can't.
It's not a very good example to show citizenship without descent.
Karl
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| 0alt.atheism |
In article <1993Apr20.062328.19776@bmerh85.bnr.ca>,
dgraham@bmers30.bnr.ca (Douglas Graham) writes:
[...]
>
> Wait a minute. You said *never* play a Chamberlain. Since the US
> *is* playing Chamberlain as far as East Timor is concerned, wouldn't
> that lead you to think that your argument is irrelevant and had nothing
> to do with the Gulf War? Actually, I rather like your idea. Perhaps
> the rest of the world should have bombed (or maybe missiled) Washington
> when the US invaded Nicaragua, Grenada, Panama, Vietnam, Mexico, Hawaii,
> or any number of other places.
Wait a minute, Doug. I know you are better informed than that. The US
has never invaded Nicaragua (as far as I know). We liberated Grenada
from the Cubans to protect US citizens there and to prevent the completion
of a strategic air strip. Panama we invaded, true (twice this century).
Vietnam? We were invited in by the government of S. Vietnam. (I guess
we "invaded" Saudi Arabia during the Gulf War, eh?) Mexico? We have
invaded Mexico 2 or 3 times, once this century, but there were no missiles
for anyone to shoot over here at that time. Hawaii? We liberated it from
Spain.
So if you mean by the word "invaded" some sort of military action where
we cross someone's border, you are right 5 out of 6. But normally
"invaded" carries a connotation of attacking an autonomous nation.
(If some nation "invades" the U.S. Virgin Islands, would they be
invading the Virgin Islands or the U.S.?) So from this point of
view, your score falls to 2 out of 6 (Mexico, Panama).
[...]
>
> What's a "peace-nik"? Is that somebody who *doesn't* masturbate
> over "Guns'n'Ammo" or what? Is it supposed to be bad to be a peace-nik?
No, it's someone who believes in "peace-at-all-costs". In other words,
a person who would have supported giving Hitler not only Austria and
Czechoslakia, but Poland too if it could have averted the War. And one
who would allow Hitler to wipe all *all* Jews, slavs, and political
dissidents in areas he controlled as long as he left the rest of us alone.
"Is it supposed to be bad to be a peace-nik," you ask? Well, it depends
on what your values are. If you value life over liberty, peace over
freedom, then I guess not. But if liberty and freedom mean more to you
than life itself; if you'd rather die fighting for liberty than live
under a tyrant's heel, then yes, it's "bad" to be a peace-nik.
The problem with most peace-niks it they consider those of us who are
not like them to be "bad" and "unconscionable". I would not have any
argument or problem with a peace-nik if they held to their ideals and
stayed out of all conflicts or issues, especially those dealing with
the national defense. But no, they are not willing to allow us to
legitimately hold a different point-of-view. They militate and
many times resort to violence all in the name of peace. (What rank
hypocrisy!) All to stop we "warmongers" who are willing to stand up
and defend our freedoms against tyrants, and who realize that to do
so requires a strong national defense.
Time to get off the soapbox now. :)
[...]
> --
> Doug Graham dgraham@bnr.ca My opinions are my own.
Regards,
Jim B.
| 0alt.atheism |
To: nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye)
There is a person on the FIDO CFS echo who claims that he was
cured of CFS by taking accutane. He also claims that you are
using it in the treatment of Fibromyalgia Syndrome. Are you
using accutane in the treatment of Fibromyalgia Syndrome? Have
you used it for CFS? Have you gotten good results with it? Are
you aware of any double blind studies on the use of accutane in
these conditions? Thank you in advance for all replies.
... I think they should rename Waco TX to Wacko TX!
| 13sci.med |
There are several programs on sumex that allow Macs with superdrives to
read and write unix tar diskettes.
---
--
---
Ronald H. Nicholson, Jr.
rhn@netcom.com, rhn@sigm.com, N6YWU, (408)296-7535
#include <cannonical.disclaimer>
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <C4xCu3.401@polaris.async.vt.edu> jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>Do it. Depew has shown himself to be unrepentant (though embarrassed) and
>still possessed of the same fucked-up hubris-laden self-righteousness that
The theory is that the hollering kills the spirit of the criminal/Nazi
Armenians of the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle.
Now, try dealing with the rest of what I wrote.
What is more, the activities of the Armenian Government seem to have been
efforts aimed at eradicating a race (the Turks) or aimed at carrying out a
one-sided feud, instead of being a struggle for liberation. From the outset,
the efforts of the Armenian revolutionaries within the Ottoman borders took
the form of terrorist and destructive actions aimed at mass murder, cruelty
and genocide, so that no other interpretation of them is possible. Armenian
activities started during the reign of Abdulhamid II as individual acts of
terror, and then developed into assassinations and surprise attacks. The element
of brute force in these activities increased steadily, culminating in mass
rebellions and widespread fighting during the First World War. Furthermore,
when the Ottoman army withdrew from Eastern Anatolia after the 1915 Sarikamis
defeat, Armenian revolutionaries initiated a series of cruelties in this area.
Although the Russians occupied Eastern Anatolia as an enemy, nevertheless they
were constrained by the rules of war. However, when they returned to their
country in 1917 after the Revolution, Armenian revolutionaries were unchecked
in this area for about a year until the Ottoman forces returned to Erzurum
in 1918. During this period, Armenian revolutionaries executed massacres on
the local people which is recorded in historical documents.[1]
For example, let us look at a report dated 21 March 1918 which the Commander
of the Third Army submitted when he entered Erzurum and Erzincan:
"They were completely and systematically destroyed and burned down
by Armenians, even the trees were cut down, and they are like a
building entirely consumed by fire in every sense of the word."
As for the people who had been living in Erzurum and Erzincan:
"Those who were capable of fighting were taken away at the very beginning
with the excuse of forced labor in road construction, they were taken
in the direction of Sarikamis and annihilated. When the Russian army
withdrew, a part of the remaining people was destroyed in Armenian
massacres and cruelties: they were thrown into wells, they were locked
in houses and burned down, they were killed with bayonets and swords, in places
selected as butchering spots, their bellies were torn open, their lungs
were pulled out, and girls and women were hanged by their hair after
being subjected to every conceivable abominable act. A very small part
of the people who were spared these abominations far worse than the
cruelty of the inquisition resembled living dead and were suffering
from temporary insanity because of the dire poverty they had lived
in and because of the frightful experiences they had been subjected to.
Including women and children, such persons discovered so far do not
exceed one thousand five hundred in Erzincan and thirty thousand in
Erzurum. All the fields in Erzincan and Erzurum are untilled, everything
that the people had has been taken away from them, and we found them
in a destitute situation. At the present time, the people are subsisting
on some food they obtained, impelled by starvation, from Russian storages
left behind after their occupation of this area."[2]
Foreign observers who witnessed the events, including Russian Officers
who did not desert their lines, submitted detailed reports proving the
genocide to Ottoman commanders who received them as prisoners of war.
What is most important is that they stated in their reports 'the
massacres did not happen by chance but were planned.'[3]
At the end of the war, the German author Dr. Weiss, his Austrian colleague
Dr. Stein and his Turkish colleague Mr. Ahmet Vefik visited Trabzon, Kars,
Erzurum and Batum between April 17th and May 20th 1918 to record the
cruelties. Their writings not only show the scope of Armenian activities,
but also reveal their goal and true nature.[4]
[1] (The Ottoman State, the Ministry of War), "Islam Ahalinin Ducar Olduklari
Mezalim Hakkinda Vesaike Mustenid Malumat," (Istanbul, 1918). The French
version: "Documents Relatifs aux Atrocites Commises par les Armeniens sur
la Population Musulmane," (Istanbul, 1919). In the Latin script: H. K.
Turkozu, ed., "Osmanli ve Sovyet Belgeleriyle Ermeni Mezalimi," (Ankara,
1982). In addition: Z. Basar, ed., "Ermenilerden Gorduklerimiz," (Ankara,
1974) and, edited by the same author, "Ermeniler Hakkinda Makaleler -
Derlemeler," (Ankara, 1978). "Askeri Tarih Belgeleri ...," Vol. 32, 83
(December 1983), document numbered 1881.
[2] "Askeri Tarih Belgeleri ....," Vol. 31, 81 (December 1982), document
numbered 1869.
[3] From Twerdo-Khlebof's report dated 29 April 1918; quoted in Ermeniler ...,
Vol. 2, p. 275.
[4] A. R. (Altinay), "Iki Komite - Iki Kital," (Istanbul, 1919), and, "Kafkas
Yollarinda Hatiralar ve Tahassusler" (Istanbul, 1919).
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
> I wonder how hard it would be (i.e. what it would add to the cost)
>to design desktop machines with a power saver feature built in which would
>reduce power consumption automatically if the machine is idle for more than
>some amount of time.
About as hard as it was to design the Color Classic, since it's
monitor behaves in just this manner.
-Hades
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
nicho@vnet.IBM.COM (Greg Stewart-Nicholls) writes:
>In <C5y4t7.9w3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> George F. Krumins writes:
>>It is so typical that the rights of the minority are extinguished by the
>>wants of the majority, no matter how ridiculous those wants might be.
> Umm, perhaps you could explain what 'rights' we are talking about
>here ..
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>Greg Nicholls ... : Vidi
>nicho@vnet.ibm.com or : Vici
>nicho@olympus.demon.co.uk : Veni
I was suggesting that the minority of professional and amateur astronomers
have the right to a dark, uncluttered night sky.
Let me give you an example. When you watch TV, they have commercials to pay
for the programming. You accept that as part of watching. If you don't like
it, you can turn it off. If you want to view the night sky, and there is a
floating billboard out there, you can't turn it off. It's the same
reasoning that limits billboards in scenic areas.
Pat writes:
George.
It's called a democracy. The majority rules. sorry.
If ytou don't like it, I suggest you modify the constitution to include
a constitutional right to Dark Skies. The theory of government
here is that the majority rules, except in the nature of fundamental
civil rights.
I say:
Any reasonably in-depth perusal of American history will show
you that many WASPs have continued the practices of prejudice,
discrimination, and violence against others of different
races, religions, and beliefs, despite the law.
Pat says:
If you really are annoyed, get some legislation
to create a dark sky zone, where in all light emissions are protected
in the zone. Kind of like the national radio quiet zone. Did you
know about that? near teh Radio telescope observatory in West virginia,
they have a 90?????? mile EMCON zone. Theoretically they can prevent
you from running light AC motors, like air conditioners and Vacuums.
In practice, they use it mostly to control large radio users.
I say:
What I'm objecting to here is a floating billboard that, presumably,
would move around in the sky. I, for one, am against legislating
at all. I just wish that people had a bit of common courtesy, and
would consider how their greed for money impacts the more ethereal and
aesthetic values that make us human. This includes the need for wild
and unspoiled things, including the night sky.
George
--
| George Krumins /^\ The Serpent and the Rainbow |
| gfk39017@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu <^^. .^^> |
| Pufferish Observatory <_ (o) _> |
| \_/ |
| 14sci.space |
How difficult would it be to do a solar sail mission to say mercury?
Not much has been there and there is a 23?KM/s delta v to eat off.
could a solar sail, handle say adiscovery bus, and drop it into
mercury orbit, good enough for rockets to put it into some
form of polar orbit?
pat
| 14sci.space |
>The cryptographic protocol, though, is another matter. I see no valid
>reasons for keeping it secret, and -- as I hope I've shown above -- there
>are a lot of ways to do things that aren't (quite) as bad.
It just occurred to me why the algorithm is secret. If it were
published, one could then build physically identical clone versions
of the chip that would interoperate with official Clipper chips. But
the cloner wouldn't provide the keys to the escrow houses. Hmmn.
Or is there a technical hack that I've missed? E.g. how about if the
chips were made unprogrammed but serialized, and then shipped to the
two escrow houses who programmed in their halves of the keys, but
in a way that requires that secret keys known only to the escrow houses
be installed as well, without which clone versions wouldn't
interoperate? This is getting awfully complicated, but that's
crypto for you.
--
John R. Levine, IECC, POB 349, Cambridge MA 02238, +1 617 492 3869
johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {ima|spdcc|world}!iecc!johnl
"Time is Money! Steal some today!"
| 11sci.crypt |
Any new reports about iisi clock upgrade to 25 mhz, 33 mhz?
Any failures?
-a iisi owner with a slow mac and an itchcy soldering iron
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <115298@bu.edu>, kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) writes:
> BK:
# ##So tell me---what's immoral about homosexuality?
#
# CC:
# #The promiscuity and fetishism that characterizes it.
#
# Hmmm.
#
# I've told you more than once that I've been monogamous for almost 4 years
# now, and that I really don't get into fetishes.
Then you are nearly the only homosexual who is. I don't believe you.
You've changed your story before.
# Yet you maintain my homosexual activity is still immoral.
#
# Care to elaborate?
#
# For that matter, explain why fetishes are immoral?
#
# kane@{buast7,astro}.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) Astronomy Dept, Boston University,
The fact that your fetish is more important than who you are making
love to. (Actually, in your case, "having sex with.")
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In a previous article, jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) says:
>jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) writes:
>>In article <1r1jr9$m1v@armory.centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:
>>>tcorkum@bnr.ca (Trevor Corkum) writes:
>>>I figure that 30mph collisions into brick walls aren't common enough
>>>for me to spend that much extra money for protection, but there are
>>>lots of low-speed collisions that do worry me.
>>Get into an 30+ mph accident and you may reconsider. I've been in one
>>and it is *really* scarey. My life is something I value more
>>than a car's looks or handeling. Consider it insurance, it may not
>>happen often but when it does, you'll sure be glad you got a safe car.
>>Granted the tests aren't perfect but I'd much rather be in a car that
>>did well in the test than a car that did horribly.
>You raise a valid point, but again it's a tradeoff -- how much money
>do you want to spend for that kind of protection? You could buy a
>Volvo, Saab, or 'Benz and get really good crash protection (and other
>luxuries) but you'll pay significantly more for it. In my case it's
>out of the question because *all* of those cars are beyond my budget.
I've been in two _major_ auto accidents, both were multiple car. The worst
was a head-on three car collision (T intersection and one person ran a stop
sign). In both cases I was stopped and had no place to go (and I saw it
coming both times).
>Even in high-speed head-on collisions the most beneficial item you can
>have is a good old 3-point seatbelt. Nowadays, at least in the US,
>you get an airbag if you get a 3-point belt so (presumably) you get an
>added safety benefit there as well. That's something I certainly look
>for and which can be had in inexpensive cars.
If you _really_ want to add safety to _any_ car, simply add a cage to the
car. They are available and cheap (about $500 in the USA). Add to that
four or five or six point belts and you will walk away from collisions that
were otherwise not survivable. but instead of people spending a little
extra money, we get legislation that says the gov't must mandate a minimal
level of protection for everyone.
One other significant factor in improving one's own safety is to get some
training. This will improve your safety more than any other single
investment will. Drive/ride defensively (and that does not mean you have
to be a doddering old stick in the mud). People here tend to enthuse about
autos more than the average (probably in the top 15th percentile in driving
ability), but still we sometimes overlook the obvious. I've been to two
driving schools, and three riding schools for my motorcycle. A very
worthwhile investment (and besides, it was a lot of fun too ;-).
Safety is what you make of it, just because a carmaker doesn't provide you
with an adequate level of protection doesn't mean you have to leave it go at
that.
--
Al Bowers DOD #900 Alfa Ducati Hobie Kottke 'blad Iaido NASA
"Well goodness sakes...don't you know that girls can't play guitar?"
-Mary Chapin-Carpenter
| 7rec.autos |
I have a bunch of questions about the encryption scheme
referenced in the Subject of this message. What is the relative data
privacy provided by the above sequence as compared with straight DES?
Does the addition of compression then encrypting make the cyphertext
significantly harder to crack using current methods than straight DES?
Would running crypt after DES provide greater data privacy? Is it
important to remove the (constant) compress header before encryption?
Thank you, net, for your wisdom.
-- jad --
John A. Dilley <jad@nsa.hp.com>
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <1993May12.205519.1480@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>
>It is easy for Sen. Biden to say that when there are no US troops in
>Zepa or Srebinica or Sarejevo...
>
>The existing UN policy may certaining be wrong, but the US wants
>to dictate policy, and make Europe responsible for the consequences
>of that policy...
>
>...Bosnia is a big enough problem for the US to preach about what
>other countries should be doing with their forces...but its forces
>are safely tucked away at home in the US.
>
>Gerald
>
Look nobody asked those countries about their UN forces
to be on the ground. They can take their forces which are
incomponent and ineffective at the first place. And let whoever are
willing to do the job what it takes. How anyone can defend this
stinking UN force on the ground who let the Bosnnian PM
yanked out from the UN vehicle and being shot by the Serbian
military? How anyone can defend this UN force who are just watching
the shelling on cities and towns everyday? How anyone can
defend and say those stinking UN forces being effective
when Bosnian had almost 14,000 children casualties between 5-14 age
groups? I think talking about the current UN forces to Bosnian
muslims is just an insult to their casualties.
I think Senator Biden said it all what has to be said on this issue.
Europe is a sad place to criticize human rights in anywhere in this
world. Like Biden said, they are the bigots when it comes to
cultural difference and minorty closer to their home.
Because they get rid of their minorities long long time
ago starting in 15th centuries. And they let Adolph
to take care of the rest in 20th Century. But he was much more
naughty than they expected because he dared to step many
toes. So, why spoil the good thing now when Serbs doing today what
they were thinking the same yesterday.
C. Akgun
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
jbrown@batman.bmd.trw.com wrote:
> And the person who takes the undecidable position and says that he/she
> simply disbelieves that the proposition is true, is the only one who
> holds no burden of proof. This is why the so-called "weak atheist"
> position is virtually unassailable -- not because it stands on a firm
> foundation of logical argument, but because it's proponents simply
> disbelieve in the existence of God(s) and therefore they hold no burden
> of proof. When you don't assert anything, you don't have to prove
> anything.
Right. Why should I assert anything about beings that I don't believe in?
When I have no good idea of what this being is like, only some
contradictory statements being made by various religions, I cannot
firmly assert anything specific.
A mathematical atheist has a proof that no godlike beings can exist.
However, we will first need a definition of 'god', and the theistic
religions do not agree very well on this. Did you see my earlier
posting on the existence of god? Theists cannot even agree whether
any god exists, or meta-exists, or is herself the existence.
Omnipotence, omnibenevolence and omniscience are other concepts
theists do not all agree upon. Thus, it is hard to assert anything
about a such fluxional beings. _Deus absconditus_ remains hidden,
from those who believe and from those who don't.
> That's where weak atheism draws its strength. But its
> strength is also its Achilles' heel. Without assertions/axioms, one
> has no foundation upon which to build. As a philosophy, it's virtually
> worthless. IMO, of course.
I have to disagree here - first, philosophical maxims are not necessarily
something to build upon. What can I build upon Occam's Razor, for
instance? Weak atheism is not a _philosophy_ (a philosophical system).
There are several alternatives from which atheists may choose from,
ranging from reductionism (my choice) to objectivism. Actually,
philosophy becomes simpler without the additional assumption of god/s.
Second, your claim that being without assertions is an Achilles'
heel of weak atheism sounds strange to me, and is actually a version
of the oft-heard theistic claim that 'but even atheists have to place their
faith on _something_, even if it is not god_'. This has been discussed in
the FAQ, but from a different viewpoint, and I do not repeat it.
I think one does not have to take _anything_ on blind faith.
True, one cannot prove that reality exists independent of the observer;
to assume this is not a blind leap of faith at all, however. It is
probably the simplest assumption one can make (after solipsism,
of course).
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Hi there,
Does anyone know about any greek database/word processor that
can do things like count occurrences of a word, letter et al?
I'm posting this up for a friend who studies greek.
Thanks,
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P.S. Can you email as I seldom look into usenet nowadays.
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things you do not know." Jeremiah 33:3
| 15soc.religion.christian |
Archive-name: space/groups
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SPACE ACTIVIST/INTEREST/RESEARCH GROUPS AND SPACE PUBLICATIONS
GROUPS
AIA -- Aerospace Industry Association. Professional group, with primary
membership of major aerospace firms. Headquartered in the DC area.
Acts as the "voice of the aerospace industry" -- and it's opinions
are usually backed up by reams of analyses and the reputations of
the firms in AIA.
[address needed]
AIAA -- American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics.
Professional association, with somewhere about 30,000-40,000
members. 65 local chapters around the country -- largest chapters
are DC area (3000 members), LA (2100 members), San Francisco (2000
members), Seattle/NW (1500), Houston (1200) and Orange County
(1200), plus student chapters. Not a union, but acts to represent
aviation and space professionals (engineers, managers, financial
types) nationwide. Holds over 30 conferences a year on space and
aviation topics publishes technical Journals (Aerospace Journal,
Journal of Spacecraft and Rockets, etc.), technical reference books
and is _THE_ source on current aerospace state of the art through
their published papers and proceedings. Also offers continuing
education classes on aerospace design. Has over 60 technical
committees, and over 30 committees for industry standards. AIAA acts
as a professional society -- offers a centralized resume/jobs
function, provides classes on job search, offers low-cost health and
life insurance, and lobbies for appropriate legislation (AIAA was
one of the major organizations pushing for IRAs - Individual
Retirement Accounts). Very active public policy arm -- works
directly with the media, congress and government agencies as a
legislative liaison and clearinghouse for inquiries about aerospace
technology technical issues. Reasonably non-partisan, in that they
represent the industry as a whole, and not a single company,
organization, or viewpoint.
Membership $70/yr (student memberships are less).
American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics
The Aerospace Center
370 L'Enfant Promenade, SW
Washington, DC 20077-0820
(202)-646-7400
AMSAT - develops small satellites (since the 1960s) for a variety of
uses by amateur radio enthusiasts. Has various publications,
supplies QuickTrak satellite tracking software for PC/Mac/Amiga etc.
Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
P.O. Box 27
Washington, DC 20044
(301)-589-6062
ASERA - Australian Space Engineering and Research Association. An
Australian non-profit organisation to coordinate, promote, and
conduct space R&D projects in Australia, involving both Australian
and international (primarily university) collaborators. Activities
include the development of sounding rockets, small satellites
(especially microsatellites), high-altitude research balloons, and
appropriate payloads. Provides student projects at all levels, and
is open to any person or organisation interested in participating.
Publishes a monthly newsletter and a quarterly technical journal.
Membership $A100 (dual subscription)
Subscriptions $A25 (newsletter only) $A50 (journal only)
ASERA Ltd
PO Box 184
Ryde, NSW, Australia, 2112
email: lindley@syd.dit.csiro.au
BIS - British Interplanetary Society. Probably the oldest pro-space
group, BIS publishes two excellent journals: _Spaceflight_, covering
current space activities, and the _Journal of the BIS_, containing
technical papers on space activities from near-term space probes to
interstellar missions. BIS has published a design study for an
interstellar probe called _Daedalus_.
British Interplanetary Society
27/29 South Lambeth Road
London SW8 1SZ
ENGLAND
No dues information available at present.
ISU - International Space University. ISU is a non-profit international
graduate-level educational institution dedicated to promoting the
peaceful exploration and development of space through multi-cultural
and multi-disciplinary space education and research. For further
information on ISU's summer session program or Permanent Campus
activities please send messages to 'information@isu.isunet.edu' or
contact the ISU Executive Offices at:
International Space University
955 Massachusetts Avenue 7th Floor
Cambridge, MA 02139
(617)-354-1987 (phone)
(617)-354-7666 (fax)
L-5 Society (defunct). Founded by Keith and Carolyn Henson in 1975 to
advocate space colonization. Its major success was in preventing US
participation in the UN "Moon Treaty" in the late 1970s. Merged with
the National Space Institute in 1987, forming the National Space
Society.
NSC - National Space Club. Open for general membership, but not well
known at all. Primarily comprised of professionals in aerospace
industry. Acts as information conduit and social gathering group.
Active in DC, with a chapter in LA. Monthly meetings with invited
speakers who are "heavy hitters" in the field. Annual "Outlook on
Space" conference is _the_ definitive source of data on government
annual planning for space programs. Cheap membership (approx
$20/yr).
[address needed]
NSS - the National Space Society. NSS is a pro-space group distinguished
by its network of local chapters. Supports a general agenda of space
development and man-in-space, including the NASA space station.
Publishes _Ad Astra_, a monthly glossy magazine, and runs Shuttle
launch tours and Space Hotline telephone services. A major sponsor
of the annual space development conference. Associated with
Spacecause and Spacepac, political lobbying organizations.
Membership $18 (youth/senior) $35 (regular).
National Space Society
Membership Department
922 Pennsylvania Avenue, S.E.
Washington, DC 20003-2140
(202)-543-1900
Planetary Society - founded by Carl Sagan. The largest space advocacy
group. Publishes _Planetary Report_, a monthly glossy, and has
supported SETI hardware development financially. Agenda is primarily
support of space science, recently amended to include an
international manned mission to Mars.
The Planetary Society
65 North Catalina Avenue
Pasadena, CA 91106
Membership $35/year.
SSI - the Space Studies Institute, founded by Dr. Gerard O'Neill.
Physicist Freeman Dyson took over the Presidency of SSI after
O'Neill's death in 1992. Publishes _SSI Update_, a bimonthly
newsletter describing work-in-progress. Conducts a research program
including mass-drivers, lunar mining processes and simulants,
composites from lunar materials, solar power satellites. Runs the
biennial Princeton Conference on Space Manufacturing.
Membership $25/year. Senior Associates ($100/year and up) fund most
SSI research.
Space Studies Institute
258 Rosedale Road
PO Box 82
Princeton, NJ 08540
SEDS - Students for the Exploration and Development of Space. Founded in
1980 at MIT and Princeton. SEDS is a chapter-based pro-space
organization at high schools and universities around the world.
Entirely student run. Each chapter is independent and coordinates
its own local activities. Nationally, SEDS runs a scholarship
competition, design contests, and holds an annual international
conference and meeting in late summer.
Students for the Exploration and Development of Space
MIT Room W20-445
77 Massachusetts Avenue
Cambridge, MA 02139
(617)-253-8897
email: odyssey@athena.mit.edu
Dues determined by local chapter.
SPACECAUSE - A political lobbying organization and part of the NSS
Family of Organizations. Publishes a bi-monthly newsletter,
Spacecause News. Annual dues is $25. Members also receive a discount
on _The Space Activist's Handbook_. Activities to support pro-space
legislation include meeting with political leaders and interacting
with legislative staff. Spacecause primarily operates in the
legislative process.
National Office West Coast Office
Spacecause Spacecause
922 Pennsylvania Ave. SE 3435 Ocean Park Blvd.
Washington, D.C. 20003 Suite 201-S
(202)-543-1900 Santa Monica, CA 90405
SPACEPAC - A political action committee and part of the NSS Family of
Organizations. Spacepac researches issues, policies, and candidates.
Each year, updates _The Space Activist's Handbook_. Current Handbook
price is $25. While Spacepac does not have a membership, it does
have regional contacts to coordinate local activity. Spacepac
primarily operates in the election process, contributing money and
volunteers to pro-space candidates.
Spacepac
922 Pennsylvania Ave. SE
Washington, DC 20003
(202)-543-1900
UNITED STATES SPACE FOUNDATION - a public, non-profit organization
supported by member donations and dedicated to promoting
international education, understanding and support of space. The
group hosts an annual conference for teachers and others interested
in education. Other projects include developing lesson plans that
use space to teach other basic skills such as reading. Publishes
"Spacewatch," a monthly B&W glossy magazine of USSF events and
general space news. Annual dues:
Charter $50 ($100 first year)
Individual $35
Teacher $29
College student $20
HS/Jr. High $10
Elementary $5
Founder & $1000+
Life Member
United States Space Foundation
PO Box 1838
Colorado Springs, CO 80901
(719)-550-1000
WORLD SPACE FOUNDATION - has been designing and building a solar-sail
spacecraft for longer than any similar group; many JPL employees lend
their talents to this project. WSF also provides partial funding for the
Palomar Sky Survey, an extremely successful search for near-Earth
asteroids. Publishes *Foundation News* and *Foundation Astronautics
Notebook*, each a quarterly 4-8 page newsletter. Contributing Associate,
minimum of $15/year (but more money always welcome to support projects).
World Space Foundation
Post Office Box Y
South Pasadena, California 91301
PUBLICATIONS
Aerospace Daily (McGraw-Hill)
Very good coverage of aerospace and space issues. Approx. $1400/yr.
Air & Space / Smithsonian (bimonthly magazine)
Box 53261
Boulder, CO 80332-3261
$18/year US, $24/year international
ESA - The European Space Agency publishes a variety of periodicals,
generally available free of charge. A document describing them in
more detail is in the Ames SPACE archive in
pub/SPACE/FAQ/ESAPublications.
Final Frontier (mass-market bimonthly magazine) - history, book reviews,
general-interest articles (e.g. "The 7 Wonders of the Solar System",
"Everything you always wanted to know about military space
programs", etc.)
Final Frontier Publishing Co.
PO Box 534
Mt. Morris, IL 61054-7852
$14.95/year US, $19.95 Canada, $23.95 elsewhere
Space News (weekly magazine) - covers US civil and military space
programs. Said to have good political and business but spotty
technical coverage.
Space News
Springfield VA 22159-0500
(703)-642-7330
$75/year, may have discounts for NSS/SSI members
Journal of the Astronautical Sciences and Space Times - publications of
the American Astronautical Society. No details.
AAS Business Office
6352 Rolling Mill Place, Suite #102
Springfield, VA 22152
(703)-866-0020
GPS World (semi-monthly) - reports on current and new uses of GPS, news
and analysis of the system and policies affecting it, and technical
and product issues shaping GPS applications.
GPS World
859 Willamette St.
P.O. Box 10460
Eugene, OR 97440-2460
(503)-343-1200
Free to qualified individuals; write for free sample copy.
Innovation (Space Technology) -- Free. Published by the NASA Office of
Advanced Concepts and Technology. A revised version of the NASA
Office of Commercial Programs newsletter.
Planetary Encounter - in-depth technical coverage of planetary missions,
with diagrams, lists of experiments, interviews with people directly
involved.
World Spaceflight News - in-depth technical coverage of near-Earth
spaceflight. Mostly covers the shuttle: payload manifests, activity
schedules, and post-mission assessment reports for every mission.
Box 98
Sewell, NJ 08080
$30/year US/Canada
$45/year elsewhere
Space (bi-monthly magazine)
British aerospace trade journal. Very good. $75/year.
Space Calendar (weekly newsletter)
Space Daily/Space Fax Daily (newsletter)
Short (1 paragraph) news notes. Available online for a fee
(unknown).
Space Technology Investor/Commercial Space News -- irregular Internet
column on aspects of commercial space business. Free. Also limited
fax and paper edition.
P.O. Box 2452
Seal Beach, CA 90740-1452.
All the following are published by:
Phillips Business Information, Inc.
7811 Montrose Road
Potomac, MC 20854
Aerospace Financial News - $595/year.
Defense Daily - Very good coverage of space and defense issues.
$1395/year.
Space Business News (bi-weekly) - Very good overview of space
business activities. $497/year.
Space Exploration Technology (bi-weekly) - $495/year.
Space Station News (bi-weekly) - $497/year.
UNDOCUMENTED GROUPS
Anyone who would care to write up descriptions of the following
groups (or others not mentioned) for inclusion in the answer is
encouraged to do so.
AAS - American Astronautical Society
Other groups not mentioned above
NEXT: FAQ #14/15 - How to become an astronaut
| 14sci.space |
steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson) writes:
>In article <1993Apr27.132255.12653@tpl68k0.tplrd.tpl.oz.au> keithh@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Keith Harwood) writes:
> In article <1rbl0eINNip4@gap.caltech.edu>, palmer@cco.caltech.edu (David M. Palmer) writes:
> > prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
> > > What evidence indicates that Gamma Ray bursters are very far away?
> > >Given the enormous power, i was just wondering, what if they are
> > >quantum black holes or something like that fairly close by?
> > >Why would they have to be at galactic ranges?
> . . . David gives good explaination of the deductions from the isotropic,
> 'edged' distribution, to whit, they are either part of the Universe or
> part of the Oort cloud.
> Why couldn't they be Earth centred, with the edge occuring at the edge
> of the gravisphere? I know there isn't any mechanism for them, but there
> isn't a mechanism for the others either.
>What on Earth is the "gravisphere"?
>Anyway, before it's decay the Pioneer Venus Orbiter
>had a gamma ray detector, as does Ulysses, they
>detect the brightest bursts that the Earth orbit detectors
>do, so the bursts are at least at Oort cloud distances.
>In principle four detectors spaced out by a few AU would
>see parallax if the bursts are of solar system origin.
>_The_ problem with Oort cloud sources is that absolutely
>no plausible mechanism has been proposed. It would have
>to involve new physics as far as I can tell. Closest to
>"conventional" Oort sources is a model of B-field pinching
>by comets, it's got too many holes in it to count, but at
>least it was a good try...
>* Steinn Sigurdsson Lick Observatory *
>* steinly@lick.ucsc.edu "standard disclaimer" *
>* The laws of gravity are very,very strict *
>* And you're just bending them for your own benefit - B.B. 1988*
Also,if they did come from the Oort cloud we would expect to
see the same from other stars Oort Clouds.
Andrew Walker
| 14sci.space |
In article <93105.215548U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> Jason Kratz
<U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
> In article <1993Apr15.202811.29312@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>,
> andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) says:
> >
> >>I have been at a shooting range where
> >>gang members were "practicing" shooting.
> >
> >How do "we" know that they were gang members and not undercover cops
> >or even law-abiding menacing minorities. BTW - Why the sneer quotes?
> >
> "We" know because the area that the gun shop/shooting range is in is right on
> the border of the west side of Chicago. That is a gang infested area. There
> are many, many bad things going on in that area. Also, I have several
friends
> that live very close to that area who have had problems with some of these
> folks. By the way, where did I say that they were minorities?
That was what I got from your phrasing, too. Well, then, were they (the ones
you saw) black? You don't deny seem to deny it, either.
> Do you think
> that only minorities have gangs? Not so. As far as the quotes are concerned
> it was totally obvious that they weren't just practicing for marksmanship. I
> don't know about you but I have never seen anyone else practice marksmanship
by
> taking their gun out of their coat as fast as possible and start shooting.
That is the recommended way to practice with a CCW, too. Aim alone is no good
for defense, if you can't get the gun rapidly.
> If
> you would have been there Andy it would've been obvious to you too.
What, outside of prejudice, would have made it obvious?
> Of course
> it might not have been. Who knows. All I do know is that I was there, I
live
> here and I know that they were gang bangers. When you live here long enough
it
> becomes pretty easy to spot them via gang colors, gang signs, etc.
Yes, prejudice is more subtle in the north, isn't it?
> One last
> thing. My sister is a social worker. She makes it her point to find these
> things out (gang signs, colors, etc) because it is in her best interest to do
> so. She is nice enough to let me know these things so I can watch out for
> myself as I live right on the border of the west side of the city. Enough
said.
>
More than enough. I understand you completely.
> Jason
Jim
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"I'm always rethinking that. There's never been a day when I haven't rethought
that. But I can't do that by myself." Bill Clinton 6 April 93
"If I were an American, as I am an Englishman, while a foreign troop was landed
in my country, I never would lay down my arms,-never--never--never!"
WILLIAM PITT, EARL OF CHATHAM 1708-1778 18 Nov. 1777
| 16talk.politics.guns |
jec@watson.ibm.com wrote:
: A very simple question : it seems to me that the contraceptive
: pill just prevents the ovule to nest in the vagina and forces it to
: fall every month. But it does not prevent the fertilzation of the
: ovule. Is it true ? If yes, is there a risk of extra-uterine
: pregnancy, that is the development of the ovule inside the Fallopian
: tube ?
Actually that is not how the pill works, but it *is* how the IUD works.
The oral contraceptive pill actually *prevents* ovulation from occuring
by providing negatve feedback to the pituitary gland, and thus preventing
the LH surge that normally occurs at the time of ovulation. With the IUD
what happens is that fertilization may occur, but the device prevents
implantation within the wall of the uterus (*not* the vagina).
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| 13sci.med |
Source: "Men Are Like That" by Leonard Ramsden Hartill. The Bobbs-Merrill
Company, Indianapolis (1926). (305 pages).
(Memoirs of an Armenian officer who participated in the genocide of 2.5
million Muslim people)
p. 193.
"Their [Muslim] villages were destroyed and they themselves were slain or
driven out of the country."
p. 218.
"We Armenians did not spare the Tartars. If persisted in, the slaughtering
of prisoners, the looting, and the rape and massacre of the helpless become
commonplace actions expected and accepted as a matter of course.
I have been on the scenes of massacres where the dead lay on the ground,
in numbers, like the fallen leaves in a forest. They had been as helpless
and as defenseless as sheep. They had not died as soldiers die in the
heat of battle, fired with ardor and courage, with weapons in their hands,
and exchanging blow for blow. They had died as the helpless must, with
their hearts and brains bursting with horror worse than death itself."
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
G'day all,
Can anybody point me at a utility which will read/convert/crop/whatnot/
display HDF image files ? I've had a look at the HDF stuff under NCSA
and it must take an award for odd directory structure, strange storage
approaches and minimalist documentation :-)
Part of the problem is that I want to look at large (5MB+) HDF files and
crop out a section. Ideally I would like a hdftoppm type of utility, from
which I can then use the PBMplus stuff quite merrily. I can convert the cropped
part into another format for viewing/animation.
Otherwise, can someone please explain how to set up the NCSA Visualisation S/W
for HDF (3.2.r5 or 3.3beta) and do the above cropping/etc. This is for
Suns with SunOS 4.1.2.
Any help GREATLY appreciated. Ta muchly !
Cheers,
Markus
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| 1comp.graphics |
I was wrong! I guess they are closer to $800 new! I will
probably still sell them for the above implied $300 obo.
Email me if you want more specifics. This is a really
attractive set of books, kind of a Bible encyclopedia set.
Also email me if you know more about these books or post
the information here.
| 6misc.forsale |
I don't know if this is the sort of thing you guys like
to discuss. I guess it falls into the area of apologetics.
This is a question that seems to pop up now and again in
conversations with non-christians. It usually appears in
the following sort of unqualified statement:
"Well you know that religion has caused more wars than
anything else"
It bothers me that I cannot seem to find a satisfactory
response to this. After all if our religion is all about
peace and love why have there been so many religious wars?
Personally I am of the view that religion has often been
used as an excuse to instigate wars often to disguise
national ambitions but I would love to hear what anyone
else has to say about this subject.
Thanks in advance
Andrew J Fraser
(If we're thinking in terms of history, the Crusades,
Northern Ireland, Yugoslavia(?) come immediately to mind)
northern Ireland, Yugoslavia (?
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|| Standard disclaimers... ||
[I'm beginning to suspect that the natural condition of humans is
conflict. Perhaps we should not ask whether a religion or philosophy
has been involved in any wars -- since they all have -- but whether
it has stopped any. --clh]
| 15soc.religion.christian |
Anyone seen any press releases or heard any rumors of a cache card
for the LCIII, now that it has the full data bus width on the PDS slot?
--
Maurice INTERNET: lriggins@afit.af.mil
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <C5HIEw.7s1@portal.hq.videocart.com>,
dfuller@portal.hq.videocart.com (Dave Fuller) wrote:
> He is right. Just because an event was explained by a human to have been
> done "in the name of religion", does not mean that it actually followed
> the religion. He will always point to the "ideal" and say that it wasn't
> followed so it can't be the reason for the event. There really is no way
> to argue with him, so why bother. Sure, you may get upset because his
> answer is blind and not supported factually - but he will win every time
> with his little argument. I don't think there will be any postings from
> me in direct response to one of his.
Hey! Glad to have some serious and constructive contributors in this
newsgroup. I agree 100% on the statement above, you might argue with
Bobby for eons, and he still does not get it, so the best thing is
to spare your mental resources to discuss more interesting issues.
Cheers,
Kent
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| 0alt.atheism |
Subject pretty much says it all - I'm looking for Johnny Hart's (creator
of the B.C. comic stip) mailing address.
For those of you who haven't seen them, take a look at his strips for Good
Friday and Easter Sunday. Remarkable witness!
If anyone can help me get in touch with him, I'd really appreciate it!
I've contacted the paper that carries his strip and -- they'll get back to
me with it!
Thanks for your help,
Dave Arndt
St. Peter's Evangelical Lutheran Church
St. Peter, MN 56082
darndt@nic.gac.edu
| 15soc.religion.christian |
>ddavis@cass.ma02.bull.com (Dave Davis)
>
>The deutero-canonical books were added much later in the church's
>history. They do not have the same spiritual quality as the
>rest of Scripture. I do not believe the church that added these
>books was guided by the Spirit in so doing. And that is where
>this sort of discussion ultimately ends.
The Apocryphal books that are in the Septuagint were part of the canon
used by the Greek-speaking churches from the inception of the church.
They were not added later (or much later). This is a common misconception.
The preference of the Hebrew canon over the Greek canon is a later
innovation. The church did not need to be guided to "add" the books
since they were part of the faith once received by the apostles and
passed to the Church.
Larry Overacker (llo@shell.com)
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| 15soc.religion.christian |
I have a Conner-disk model CP30061G (200Mb ??) with no info at all. The only thing I know is that
is normally used with Compaq-machines.
Please, send me information on switch-settings, geometry and so on.
It looks like a normal IDE-disk but is it possible to use it with a standard IDE-controller??
-- Michael
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| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
I know what the 68HC811E2 is all about, but I'm trying to figure
out what the 68SEC811E2 is... specifically, what does the SEC
stand for?
----
Dale Ulan VE6DAU ulan@ee.ualberta.ca
| 12sci.electronics |
This (frayed) thread has turned into a patented alt.atheism 5-on-1
ping-pong game, and I don't have any strong disagreement, so I'll try
to stick to the one thing I don't quite follow about the argument:
It seems to me that there is a contradiction in arguing that the Bible
was "enlightened for its times" (i.e. closer to what we would consider
morally good based on our standards and past experience) on the one
hand [I hope this summarizes this argument adequately], and on the
other hand:
In article <1993Apr03.001125.23294@watson.ibm.com> strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom) writes:
}In article <1phpe1INN8g6@dsi.dsinc.com>, perry@dsinc.com (Jim Perry) writes:
}|> }Disclaimer: I'm speaking from the Jewish perspective,
}|> }where "the Bible" means what many call the Old Testament,
}|> }and where the interpretation is not necessarily the
}|> }raw text, but instead the court cases, commentaries
}|> }and traditions passed down through Jewish communities.
}|>
}|> This seems the crux to me: if you judge the Bible according to a long
}|> line of traditions and interpretations coming down to the current day,
}|> rather than on its own merits as a cultural artifact, then of course
}|> it will correspond more closely with more contemporary values.
}
}But if that's how the Bible is actually being used today,
}shouldn't that be how we should judge it? If most people
}use scissors to cut paper, shouldn't Consumer's Reports
}test scissors for paper-cutting ability, even though
}scissors may have been designed originally to cut cloth?
That's possibly a good way to judge the use of the Bible in teaching
Jewish morality today, but it hardly seems fair to claim that this
highly-interpreted version is what was "enlightened for its times".
To (attempt to) extend the analogy, this is like saying that the
original scissor-makers were unusually advanced at paper-cutting for
their times, even though they only ever cut cloth, and had never even
heard of paper.
I'm not arguing that the Bible is "disgusting", though some of the
history depicted in it is, by modern standards. However, history is
full of similar abuses, and I don't think the Biblical accounts are
worse than their contemporaries--or possibly ours. On the other hand,
I don't know of any reason to think the history described in the Bible
shows *less* abuse than their contemporaries, or ours. That complex
and benign moral traditions have evolved based on particular mythic
interpretations of that history is interesting, but I still don't
think it fair to take that long tradition of interpretation and use it
to attack condemnation of the original history.
--
Jim Perry perry@dsinc.com Decision Support, Inc., Matthews NC
These are my opinions. For a nominal fee, they can be yours.
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <15469@optilink.COM> brad@optilink.COM (Brad Yearwood) writes:
>Finally, because there is essentially no possibility of intercepting in
>realtime the scrutable content of communications between stolen instruments,
>there will exist strong motivation to record and archive _all_ communications
>in the network for ex-post-facto scrutiny (once some criminal act is
>discovered, and the instruments involved have been identified).
It seems likely to me that that a large subset of encrypted communications
would be archived to tape so they could be read if sometime in the future
probable cause arises and a warrant is obtained. I can even imagine this
being found legal and constitutional, since nothing is actually listened to
until a valid warrant is issued and the keys are obtained.
Imagine archiving all pay-phone conversations, so if someone turns out
to be a drug dealer, you can listen to all their past drug deals. And
archive calls to/from suspected Mafia members, potential terrorists,
radicals, etc. Imagine the convenience for the police of being able to
get a warrant now and listening to all the calls the World Trade Center
bombers made in the past year.
Since archiving would be such a powerful tool and so easy to do, why
wouldn't it happen?
Ken Shirriff shirriff@sprite.Berkeley.EDU
| 11sci.crypt |
uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt) writes:
> I wish I could agree with you. Ask yourself this. Why would any
> private sector entity wish to buy a crypto system that was KNOWN to be
> at least partially compromised?
(a) To use for sensitive but not strategically important traffic,
(b) if the system was cheap.
For example, I don't own a cordless phone. With Clipper, I would. If the
local men in blue really want to listen to me talk to my friends or order
pizza, I'm no worse off than I am now, and I don't have to worry about
local kids or nosy neighbors.
That is to say, Clipper "raises the bar" on insecure channels. It doesn't
make them secure, by any means, but a wall, even if the FBI can get a master
key by court order, is still better than a "keep off the grass" sign.
> The answer seems obvious to me, they wouldn't. There is other hardware
> out there not compromised. DES as an example (triple DES as a better
> one.)
So, where can I buy a DES-encrypted cellular phone? How much does it cost?
Personally, Cylink stuff is out of my budget for personal use :)...
> How can you reconcile the administrations self proclaimed purpose of
> providing law enforcement with access to encrypted data without making
> the clipper system the only crypto available in the U.S... ?
The Second and Fourth Amendments do come to mind.
Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation
| 11sci.crypt |
Hi fellow netters,
does anybody have any info on Tseng Labs ET4000 VLB card:
price, speed, compatibility with existing and up-comming softwares,
performance compared to others cards ( is it an S3 based card ?)....
Thank you..
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1993Apr26.120417.22328@linus.mitre.org> gpivar@mitre.org(The Pancake Emporium) writes:
>In article <1993Apr22.211005.21578@scorch.apana.org.au>, bill@scorch.apana.org.au (Bill Dowding) writes:
>|> todamhyp@charles.unlv.edu (Brian M. Huey) writes:
>|>
>|> >I think that's the correct spelling..
>|> > I am looking for any information/supplies that will allow
>|> >do-it-yourselfers to take Krillean Pictures. I'm thinking
>|> >that education suppliers for schools might have a appartus for
>|> >sale, but I don't know any of the companies. Any info is greatly
>|> >appreciated.
>|>
>|> Krillean photography involves taking pictures of minute decapods resident in
>|> the seas surrounding the antarctic. Or pictures taken by them, perhaps.
>|>
>|> Bill from oz
>|>
>
>
>Bill,
>No flame intended but you're way, way off base. In simple terms Kirilian
>photography registers the electromagnetical fields around objects, in simple,
>it takes pictures of your aura.
>|>
>
>--
>Greg
>
>-- Be still, be silent...the rest is easy. --
Dear Bill,
I think you forgot the smileys. SOME of us got the joke!
| 13sci.med |
Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My computer from Gateway is freezing up on me.
Gateway tech support couldn't help me. They want more specifics on when
it freezes up. I DID! Anyway, here it is. If the keyboard is left idle
in Dos for more than 15 minutes, I can type on the command line, but as
soon as I hit a carraige return, the computer locks up. This will happen
almost every time, whether I've just booted up, reset, or finished using a
dos program. Everything works fine if I don't let it sit. Windows is a
different story. If I let the machine sit while in windows for 15 minutes
or more, it does not freeze up. However, I do get frequent application
errors that kick me out of an application unexpectedly, losing my work.
I just don't know if this is a hardware or software problem. Any help
in diagnosis or things to try, would be greatly appreciated.
P.S. I do not run any TSRs (except smartdrive) and QAplus diagnostics
says everything is good.
System is: 486SX-33
15" Crystalscan Gateway Monitor
VLB-ATI ultra pro (using mach32 driver build 55)
Winchester 170MB HD
Microsoft mouse
Thanks,
El Guapo
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <C63Ly7.GBx@sugar.neosoft.com> georgel@NeoSoft.com (George Livsey) writes:
I am aware of the restrictions imposed by the munitions act
on the export of cryptographic technology, however, is it illegal to
transmit encrypted data from the U.S. to another country? If so,
then which laws apply to this situation?
From the US law perspective, unless you're engaging in illegal speech,
it's not illegal to use encryption. Yet. The NSA is allowed to try
to listen, but you're not obligated to make it easy for them. Yet.
The other country may have more repressive laws about that;
I gather France's bureaucracy wants to know what you're saying,
and in the old Soviet Union, they didn't need laws to make things illegal :-(
(paranoia follows, for those of you who want to play it safe :-)
The fact that the NSA is listening may affect your willingness to use
wimpy crypto technologies, but it may also affect your willingness to
use technologies that violate RSA's patents, e.g. if you use PGP, the
NSA may tell RSA that you're doing so, and if the Secret Service catches on,
they may decide that the mere fact that RSA hasn't filed a lawsuit
against you doesn't mean that you don't deserve to have your computer
confiscated for possible patent violation, munitions law violation,
espionage, money laundering, drug importation, and creatin' a disturbance,
and then not give it back because you *did* violate the patent even
though they had to drop all the other charges, unlike that nasty Steve
Jackson who had the gall not to be guilty of *anything*.
--
# Pray for peace; Bill
# Bill Stewart 1-908-949-0705 wcs@anchor.att.com AT&T Bell Labs 4M312 Holmdel NJ
# No, I'm *from* New Jersey, I only *work* in cyberspace....
# White House Commect Line 1-202-456-1111 fax 1-202-456-2461
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <May.11.02.38.56.1993.28319@athos.rutgers.edu> Eugene.Bigelow@ebay.sun.com writes:
>As St. Augustine said, "I did not invent original sin, which the
>Catholic faith holds from ancient time; but you, who deny it, without a
>doubt are a follower of a new heresy." (De nuptiis, lib. 11.c.12)]
>
>Why is it fair to punish you, me and the rest of humanity because of
>what Adam and Eve did? Suppose your parents committed some crime before
>you were born and one day the cops come to your door and throw you in
>jail for it. Would you really think that is fair? I know I wouldn't.
You may not think that it is fair, but how many sins do you know of
that affect only the sinner? Is it fair for us even to be able to get
into Heaven? Do we have a _right_ to Heaven, even if we were to lead
sinless lives? Anyway, your argument seems to be saying, "If _I_ were
God, I certainly wouldn't do things that way; therefore, God doesn't do
things that way."
Isaiah 55:8-9:
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my
ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the
earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts
than your thoughts."
Original Sin is biblical:
Romans 5:12-14:
"Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death
by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have
sinned: (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not
imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from
Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the
similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him
that was to come."
1 Corinthians 15:22:
"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made
alive."
- - - - - - - - - -
Steve Creps, Indiana University
creps@lateran.ucs.indiana.edu
| 15soc.religion.christian |
INABU@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de (Arnd Burghardt) writes:
>Hi folks,
>
>Yesterday i visited the CEBIT (hannover, germany), where Intel was presenting
>the Pentium (586) processor. They had four (in words 4) machines with this
>beast running. So they presented it nicely (unly by running picture shows),
>this i could do on a 80286 ;-)). The presentor promised it to be binary
>compatible to the i486, and I said I don't believe. I showed him a ONE_DISK_
>Linux-System (Emergency disk, with patched lilo to boot from disk), and said
>him : Convice me, boot this : No guts, no glory ! A he decided no glory.
>He won't let anybody touch his holy cows, and not even boot a suspect OS.
>
>I thought by myself 'This is the coward of the day' and went back to earth.
>
>What cn we learn : this technology is far from industrial-standarts, so you
>can expect this beast in your local computer-shop at least in spring next
>year....
>
>only my 2cents....
Yes only your $00.02. Here's mine.
If I were running at a new chip at a Trade show, and had little to no real
technical knowledge, I wouldn't let some stranger with a diskette boot my demo
machine. If the demo machine is down too long people will not see my nice
demos, and if this purposted LINUX diskette is really something that will wipe
the disk, or is loaded with a VIRUS!, I'm in deep trouble.
No marketer in their right mind would let you do this, unless they had
specifically invited people to do so, and provided machines to do it with.
We can we learn : This technology will be shipping from PC vendors in May 1993,
and will be i486 compatible.
--
The Golden Gryphon gryphon@openage.COM
"The Crown Jewel of the American Prison System." - President Bill
Clinton on living in The White House.
Openage - The Premier SCO UNIX integrator in the Washington D.C. area
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In <1993Apr19.211044.28763@guinness.idbsu.edu>, lhighley@gozer.idbsu.edu (Larry Paul Highley) wrote:
>
>
> Is there a utility out there that will let me use filenames longer than
> the standard 8.3 format. If so please email me.
please e-mail me too,
thanks
...howard
hfeldman@infoserv.com
---------------------------------------------------------------
Howard Feldman
Mind's Eye, Inc.
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Neal (neal@magpie.linknet.com) wrote:
: Once the National Guard has been called into federal service,
: it is under the command of the present. Tha National Guard, though
: defined as the "Militia" in the statutes, is actually a reserve component
: of the United State Army, and was formed pursuant to the power of Congress
: to raise and support Armies.
: Neal
Correction to the above: "present" should be "President", "Tha
National Guard" should be "The National Guard".
Excuse the typos.
Neal
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <1rrgu7$9lp@access.digex.net>, prb@access.digex.net (Pat) writes...
>In article <C6A2At.E9z@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>>
>>No, the thing is designed to be retrievable, in a pinch. Indeed, this
>>dictated a rather odd design for the solar arrays, since they had to be
>>retractable as well as extendable, and may thus have indirectly contributed
>>to the array-flapping problems.
>
>
>Why not design the solar arrays to be detachable. if the shuttle is going
>to retunr the HST, what bother are some arrays. just fit them with a quick release.
>
I didn't think the bi-stem design was used so much for the retrieval as
for the ability to launch in a tight (size) STS envelope. This is my own
guess, based on similar designs flown on other large STS-launched s/c
(GRO, UARS). Also, there _might_ be some consideration given to mass
requirements (bi-stems weight less than conventional S/A). Finally,
the HST arrays _do_ have the ability to be detached--remember, they're
going to be replaced with new arrays.
However, as an ACS guy who's seen his branch management pull their
collective hair out over HST, I would voice a hearty 'yea' to using
conventional arrays over bi-stems, whenever possible. No half hertz
flexible modes, no thermal snap, no problem.
David W. @ GSFC
| 14sci.space |
In article <C5JrDE.M4z@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb) writes:
>Theory of Creationism: MY theistic view of the theory of creationism, (there
>are many others) is stated in Genesis 1. In the beginning God created
>the heavens and the earth.
Too bad you're starting off with a faulty translation. Try this instead:
When God began to create heaven and earth -- the earth being unformed
and void, with darkness over the surface of the deep and a wind from God
sweeping over the water -- God said, "Let there be light"; and there was
light. God saw that the light was good, and God separated the light from
the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness He called
Night. And there was evening and there was morning, a first day.
JPS:Tanakh ISBN:0-8276-0252-9
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <2054@mwca.UUCP> bill@mwca.UUCP (Bill Sheppard) writes:
)Many high-end graphics cards come with C source code for doing basic graphics
)sorts of things (change colors, draw points/lines/polygons/fills, etc.). Does
)such a library exist for generic VGA graphics cards/chips, hopefully in the
)public domain? This would be for the purpose of compiling under a non-DOS
)operating system running on a standard PC.
Check the server code for X11R5. (or "XFree86")
--
Daniel "un?X" Ortmann (talmidim) NDSU Electrical Engineering
ortmann@plains.nodak.edu shalom Fargo, North Dakota
| 1comp.graphics |
Hi!
Anyone knows how can i change an icon forever and ever??????
I mean, not only in the program manager...
Thanks in advance!
Alejandro Cifuentes H.
acifuent@isluga.puc.cl
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Need an extended keyboard? Don't like how much space an official Apple
Extended Barge takes up?
BUY MY DATADESK MAC-101E!!!!!!
I've gotten some Repetitive Syndrome Injury, and thus I bought an Apple
Split keyboard.
I don't need two keyboards, so I'm selling it....(the datadesk that is)
$85 or best offer - includes ground shipping... may or may not include the
ADB cable. Probably will.
dan keldsen - djk@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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djk@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu | a. A Berklee College student?
Univ. of Texas, Austin | b. A member/fan of Billy Death?
Music Composition, MM | c. a MAX programmer?
M & M Consultant (ask) | d. a Think-C & MIDI programmer?
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
I'm surprised nobody mentioned that twitching of the eyelid can be a
symptom of an infection, especially if it also itches or stings.
(It happened to me, and antibiotic eyedrops cleared it up nicely.)
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| 13sci.med |
kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>In article <pww-180493195323@spac-at1-59.rice.edu> pww@spacsun.rice.edu
>(Peter Walker) writes:
>>And others of us see it as intellectual masturbation.
>
> I'll defer to your greater firsthand knowledge in such matters.
Kevin, of course, is intellectually a voluntarily chaste virgin.
mathew
| 19talk.religion.misc |
I'm looking for a used/inexpensive audio mixer. I need at least
4 channels of stereo input and 1 channel of stereo output, but I would
prefer 8 or more input channels. Each channel needs to have at least a
volume control. I'll consider buying broken equipment. The mixer needs
to be fairly small (I haven't got a lot of space for it).
John Lange (jlange@zippy.radian.com)
Radian Corp. (512)454-4797 Box 201088 Austin, TX 78720-1088
| 6misc.forsale |
d9hh@dtek.chalmers.se (Henrik Harmsen) writes:
>1-4 bits per R/G/B gives horrible machbanding visible in almost any picture.
>5 bits per R/G/B (32768, 65000 colors) gives visible machbanding
>color-gradient picture has _almost_ no machbanding. This color-resolution is
>see some small machbanding on the smooth color-gradient picture, but all in all,
>There _ARE_ situiations where you get visible mach-banding even in
>a 24 bit card. If
>you create a very smooth color gradient of dark-green-white-yellow
>or something and turn
>up the contrast on the monitor, you will probably see some mach-banding.
While I don't mean to damn Henrik's attempt to be helpful here,
he's using a common misconception that should be corrected.
Mach banding will occur for any image. It is not the color
quantization you see when you don't have enough bits. It is the
human eye's response to transitions or edges between intensities.
The result is that colors near the transistion look brighter on
the brighter side and darker on the darker side.
--Andre
--
Andre Yew andrey@cco.caltech.edu (131.215.139.2)
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <C5L4rp.EBM@news.iastate.edu> jrbeach@iastate.edu (Jeffry R Beach) writes:
>In article <1993Apr15.165139.6240@gordian.com> mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) writes:
>> From a pragmatic standpoint, there certainly is some justification
>>if it is a vice people will commit anyway. Shall we criminalize
>>alcohol again? If the re-legalization for alcohol were done from
>
>Making you look bad is too damn easy. The vast social and historical
>differences between alcohol and other drugs make this comparison
>worthless.
This meaningless statement makes YOU look bad.
--
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Hi, friends,
Our SPARC workstation is now equippied with a GT-accelerator. we want to use
it to display stereo images. The accelerator has double buffers. How can we
access the buffers and switch between them ? With which functions can we do
that ? with functions from XGL, Phigs, Xlib or Xlib-extension ?
Your help will be highly appreciated.
Yonglong Xu
Uni. of Hannover
10.5.93
| 5comp.windows.x |
Okay, here is my configuration:
80486-33 Gateway 433C Micronics ISA
12MB RAM
WD212MB IDE HD ( drive C: )
ST3144A 125MB IDE HD ( drive D: )
Adaptec SCSI 1542B controller, with SCSI BIOS enabled
Seagate ST296N 80MB SCSI drive
Alrighty, when I boot up I get the Adaptec BIOS message, but it says
something like:
"Drive C: installed"
"Drive D: installed"
"ADaptec SCSI BIOS not installed!"
And I can't get to the Seagate drive.
I go into PhoenixBIOS setup, remove the entry for drive D:, and BOOM, I can
access the Seagate. Is there a way to get two IDE drives and the Seagate
at the same time? I have ASPI4DOS.SYS, but it just hangs the system.
Brian
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <pgf.735710979@srl03.cacs.usl.edu> pgf@srl03.cacs.usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering) writes:
>How come noone mentions Eric Hoffer when talking about
>fanatic behavior anymore?
Good point. If you haven't read "The True Believer" by Eric Hoffer, do
so at your first opportunity. I don't know why Hoffer is out of style
now, but "The True Believer" is still the best explanation of nutball
behavior ever written.
---Bill VanHorne
| 19talk.religion.misc |
What is the maximum rate of the 6882 FPU that Apple sells directly (Apple
Part No. M6775 LL/A)? The Apple literature labels the FPU for Classics and
LC III's so I assume it will do at least 25MHz. My question is can I put
it in a Performa 600 (68030 @ 32MHz)? The Apple price is cheap at $78
compared to ~$135 from mail order houses. Any one know the answer to this
one?
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <0P6a3B1w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> jimg@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Jim Gorycki) writes:
>
>A little Bio from _Sun-Sentinel_
>Torrey, the architect of four consecutive Stanley Cup champions as
>persident and general manager of the New York Islanders.
>Throughout his 27 years in the NHL, Bill Torrey's bow ties have become
>as much of a signature as Andre Agassi's hair.
>
>The Panthers will introduce a uniform, insignia, and ticket-price
>information in early next month. In the meantime, Huizenga leaves the
>day-to-day operation in the hands of Torrey and Bob Clarke, the VP and
>GM.
>
The San Jose Sharks and Ottawa Senators are each on their second GM
already...I'd be willing to wager that both the Sharks and Senators
will probably see their 3rd GM's and perhaps their 4th, before we
see the Panthers second.
Gerald
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <C5qL3y.Avt@hilbert.cyprs.rain.com>, joec@hilbert.cyprs.rain.com ( Joe Cipale) writes:
> In article <15325@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# #However, monogamous homosexual male sex is so rare that for practical
# #purposes, homosexuality spreads AIDS.
# #--
# #Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
# #Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
# You fucking homophobic moron!!!!!!!!! What about IV drug use? What about
# tainted blood? What about multi-sexual partners? If you knew anything
What about them? Those also spread AIDS. Where did I say anything
different? Go back and read what I wrote. The statement "homosexuality
spreads AIDS" is not made false by the fact that there are other
methods of spreading it as well.
# about what you are talking about, you would be dangerous. As it is right now,
# you are a persistent boil on the skin of humanity that needs to be lanced.
#
# Joe Cipale
Typical homosexual response.
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
> Though some may argue about the nose of the camel, it's worth noting that
> the government proposal is limited to scrambled telephony. If it is only
> used for that purpose, and does not extend to electronic mail or file
As usual, David Sternlight is demonstrating his inability to read. The
proposal clearly states:
=> The initiative will involve the creation of new products to
=> accelerate the development and use of advanced and secure
=> telecommunications networks and wireless communications links.
It speaks about telecommunications in general. Read it again, David.
Maybe you'll understand it the next time... Nah, probably not.
> encryption, then it IS an improvement over the current mass-produced
> standard civilian technology which, with a few exceptions, is limited to
> easy-to-break inverters.
That's exactly what the government wants all sheep-minded people to
think. Let's look at the current situation. It allows to almost
anybody to eavesdrop almost everybody, unless secure (and I mean
secure) encryption is used. What will happen when ("if"? Ha!
optimists...) the new proposal gets accepted? Almost nobody EXCEPT
SOME will be able to eavesdrop everybody else, but the ability of
these "some" to eavesdrop will be guaranteed! The proposal emphasizes
on the former ("almost nobody") - which is clearly an improvement -
and "forgets" to mention the drawbacks of the latter ("guaranteed").
Yes, my statement assumes that the next step will be to make the
strong crypto unlawful. You think that it will not happen? Good luck.
> Note that the big issue for the feds is the continued ability to wiretap.
It's not just "continued ability". It's -guaranteed- ability.
> Before we go off the deep end with long discusions about secure crypto for
> e-mail and files, let's focus on this.
Yeah, that's exactly what your government wants you to think. Let's
take small steps, one at a time. Concentrate on the current one, don't
think about the future. Trust us.
> One question that was not asked in the release is whether this proposal is
> limited to telephony, or if the government intends to expand it.
It's not asked because the proposal clearly says that this is the
intention. They, unlike you, read what they write.
> Though I share many of the concerns expressed by some, I find the proposal
> less threatening than many others, since right now most Americans have no
> secure telephony, and any jerk with a pair of clip leads and a "goat" can
> eavesdrop. This would also plug up the security hole in cellular and
> cordless phones.
Yes, it will. It will stop the jerk who is eavesdropping now. It will
allow only to the government to eavesdrop. (If the scheme is secure,
of course, which is yet to be proven.) But how do you know that the
jerk you are fearing now will not get a government job tomorrow? The
new proposal -guarantees- him the ability to eavesdrop then. Hell,
that will even motivate him to get that job - if he indeed is that
mentally pervert...
> Reading between the lines, I infer that the system is highly secure
> without access to the keys.
Great. The Greatest Cryptographer of All Times David Sternlight (tm)
has succeeded to evaluate the new system in the absense of any
details whatsoever and has concluded that it is "highly secure". I
guess, that comes from the background of working some 50 years for the
two major crypto evaluating companies, right? Gee, now the government
can save all that money and trouble to ask a secret council of crypto
experts to secretly analyse the new secret method - for David
Sternlight has already done all the job for them...
> This would meet the needs of U.S. businesses
> confronted by rich and powerful adversaries, including French and Japanese
> security services and rich Japanese companies. It allows the NSA to make
> available some of its better stuff while protecting law enforcement needs.
"Trust us, we're from the Government and we're here to help you."
> Most legitimate U.S. corporations trust the NSA, and would be delighted to
> have a high-security system certified by them, even at the price of
> depositing keys in escrow. I see no difficulty in creating a reliable
"Those who are prepared to trade their liberties for the promises of
future safety, do not deserve either." This (or something like that; I
don't have the exact quote, but the meaning is the same) has been said
by one of your great men. Maybe you should study their works more
carefully, if you have the brains to understand them, of course.
> From my point of view this is a fair starting point. There are concerns that
> need to be addressed, including the reliability of the escrows. But in
The main question is to guarantee to availability of -really- secure
cryptography to the masses. Gee, if the proposal was saying "we
guarantee that every American will still have the full right to use
any kind of encryption s/he would like and regard this proposal as
just a default, voluntary implementation", there would have been much
less opposition... For some reason, they didn't even try to promise
you that. I wonder why... Was Orwell off only by 10 years?
> return we get access to high-security crypto.
No, in return you get crypto that is guaranteed to be crippled.
> Many have suggested that DES
> and other systems may be breakable by the NSA and hence others similarly
> skilled and endowed.
While the above is just rumors, and while even if it is true, it is
not done -easily-, the new scheme can is guaranteed to be easily
breakable by anybody who has the two keys. It might be also breakable
by somebody who does not have them but knows the right trick. Or who
has only one of them. NSA also told you that DES is secure, why don't
you simply trust them, huh?
> There is at least a good possibility (which should be
> checked) that the proposed system is not so breakable. It doesn't have to
It is -guaranteed- to be -easily- breakable - just get the keys. It
might be even easier, but until there is some evidence, this is just a
wild speculation.
> be, nor does it have to have trapdoors, if the government can get the keys
The trapdoors -are- there. In government's hands. The keys.
> pursuant to a legitimate court order. Thus they can protect legitimate
> communications against economic adversaries, while still being able to
> eavesdrop on crooks pursuant to a court order.
Legitimate? And who decides what communications are legitimate? Oh, I
guess, it's the government, right? The guys who already have the keys?
It's kinda if I have the keys from your car and I am asked to decide
who has the right to use it "legitimately"...
> In discussing this, let's try to avoid the nastiness, personal attacks and
> noise of some previous threads.
Impossible, since you are demonstrating the same level of incompetence
and ignorance as in the provious threads.
> This is a substantive and technical issue,
> and personal remarks have no place in such a discussion.
Unfortunately, I have yet to see you posting a technically competent
message.
Regards,
Vesselin
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Bob Van Cleef writes:
If the Papacy is infallible, and this is a matter of faith, then the
Pope cannot "be wrong!" If, on the other hand, this is not a matter
of faith, but a matter of Church law, then we should still obey as the
Pope is the legal head of the church.
In other words, given the doctrine of infallibility, we have no choice
but to obey.
This is a primary problem in the Church today. What you are saying is
more or less heresy. You might call it "infallibilism". It's the
idea that the Pope is always right in everything he says or does.
This is virtually all over the place, especially in this country.
The Pope is only infallible under certain very specific and
well-defined conditions. When these conditions are not met, he can
make mistakes. He can make *big* mistakes.
A couple historical examples come to mind.
Bishop Robert Grosseteste was perhaps the greatest product of the
English Catholic Church. At one point during his career, the reigning
Pope decided to install one of his nephews in an English see. Bishop
Grosseteste said that this would happen over his dead body (though
maybe not in so many words; you have to treat Popes with respect, even
when they are wrong). The problem was that this nephew would just
collect the income of the see, and probably never set foot there.
This would deprive the people of the see of a shepherd. Bishop
Grosseteste was quite right in what he did!
Another example is that of Pope John XXII, a Pope of the Middle Ages.
He decided that souls that were saved did not enjoy the Beatific
Vision until the Last Judgement. He decided that this should be a
defined doctrine of the Church. Though he didn't quite get around to
defining it. Now there's no way this is compatible with Catholic
doctrine. The Pope's doctrine was criticised by many in the Church.
He went so far as to put a number of his opponents in jail, even. In
the end, he had to admit his mistake. Shortly before he died, he
recanted. His successor made the exact *opposite* idea a dogma of the
Church.
If you consult any of the great Catholic theologians who treat of such
subjects, such as St. Robert Bellarmine (a Doctor of the Church), you
will find detailed discussions of whether the Pope can personally fall
into heresy or schism.
The teaching of all such theologians is that the commands of a Pope
must be resisted if they are to the detriment of the Catholic Faith.
A Pope's authority is given for the purpose of building up the
Catholic Church. Commands in conflict with this purpose have no
legal *or* moral force.
| 15soc.religion.christian |
I thought I'd share a good experience, too. I bought the APS Quantum 240 zero
footprint drive in May '92 (back when they still used two separate LEDs on the
front panel and the case was metal). While traveling with it (it was in my
SE/30 Mac bag, on top of the Mac) this past winter, one of the plastic tabs
holding the front panel on broke, so that the right side of the front panel
was coming forward away from the rest of the drive. I lived with this situation
until it became completely intolerable (which more or less coincided with a
network shutdown at school and a trip out of town I had to take, which gave me
some dead time during which to have the drive sent out).
I called APS for an RMA # and got one, with no questions asked about how the
tab got broken (it was handled a little roughly by airline baggage handlers --
though nothing else was damaged [well, except for the internal speaker in my
modem, which wasn't that well glued down to begin with] -- yeah, yeah, I'm
never flying with my SE/30 again). And when I called back to ask whether I
could send it in a little later rather than right away, they had no problem
with that -- even when I exceeded the normal valid period for an RMA # by a
day (they're usually good for 10 days). The front panel was replaced under
warranty, and the drive was shipped back quickly (I mailed it first class
insured on a Saturday by noon from L.A. to Missouri, and it came back by Fed
Ex by Friday [I don't know exactly what day it came back because I was
traveling that week from Wednesday afternoon to Sunday afternoon]).
The only thing that could've been bad was that the first service rep I talked
to, in an attempt to prevent jeopardizing my data, suggested that I take the
drive mechanism out and send just the case. Unfortunately, I discovered the
day I was mailing the thing, that would necessitate breaking the little
seal and thus voiding the warranty! Oh, well.
Al
albert@seas.ucla.edu
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Joe,
As usual, this issue of dysfunction, of bad values, of messed up culture
is easily embraced by non african americans when it comes to explaining
problems in our community. From your post, you apparently find the idea that
something is wrong with African Americans, value-wise, culture wise or
something, very appealing. I never cease to be amazed at how eager non african
americans are to embrace theories about our problems which basically assert
that something is wrong with us. The socio-economic factors which we know help
to produce high crime levels, like poverty, which exists among us in large
proportion, I mean when it comes to discussion of african american problems, we
somehow become exempt from all these types of factors, and the problem is
laid at the doorstep of some neboulous dysfunction we supposedly have. But
nobody attributes crime amongst white americans to dysfunction. No, that has
socioeconomic factors to it, but for africa americans, its gotta be a
dysfunction.
Basically, I think this tendency for non african americans to believe that
something is wrong with us exists because non african americans don't want to
deal with the possiblility that the society is deeply biased against african
americans, and that this is about 80% of the problem. It could not possible be
that the society is so deeply racist and structured against us, that this has
a very effective negative effect on us. No, something is wrong with us.
Non african americans are quick to disregard what we have to say, because they
are so busy trying to find something wrong with us, instead of taking a good
hard look at the thing we say are doing us damage. I would get angry if it
werent' so damn typical.
Peace - Aaron
| 18talk.politics.misc |
dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren) writes:
> He-he. The great humanist speaks. One has to read Mr. Salah's posters,
> in which he decribes Jews as "sons of pigs and monkeys", keeps
> promising the "final battle" between Muslims and Jews (in which the
> stons and the trees will "cry for the Muslims to come and kill the
> Jews hiding behind them"), makes jokes about Jews dying from heart
> attacks etc, to realize his objective stance on the matters involved.
>
> -Danny Keren.
----------
Don't worry, Danny, every blatantly violent and abusive posting made by
Hamzah is immediately forwarded to the operator of the system in which he
has an account. I'd imagine they have quite a file started on this
fruitcake--and have already indicated that they have rules governing
racist and threatening use of their resources. I'd imagine he'll be out
of our hair in a short while.
Todd
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <1qnm6fINN8tr@tamsun.tamu.edu> brentb@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brent) writes:
>tsa@cellar.org (The Silent Assassin) writes:
>>rgc3679@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert G. Carpenter) writes:
>>
>>> Can you please offer some recommendations?
>>
>>It's really not that hard to do. There are books out there which explain
>>everything, and the basic 3D functions, translation, rotation, shading, and
>>hidden line removal are pretty easy. I wrote a program in a few weeks witht
>>he help of a book, and would be happy to give you my source.
>
>I think he wanted to avoid reinventing the wheel.
Yes, I want to concentrate on other development issues - I've created graphics
libraries before, it's too time consuming... life's too short!
>> Also, Quickdraw has a lot of 3D functions built in, and Think pascal
>>can access them, and I would expect that THINK C could as well. If you can
>>find out how to use the Quickdraw graphics library, it would be an excellent
>>choice, since it has a lot of stuff, and is built into the Mac, so should be
>>fast.
>
>Just to clarify, the 3D routines that are mentioned in various places
>on the mac are in a libray, not the ROM of the mac. A few years ago before
>I knew anything about implementing graphics, I came across a demo of the
>Apple GrafSys3D library and it actually did a lot. However, it is quite
>limited in the sense that it's a low-level 3D library; your code still has
>to plot individual points, draw each line, etc ad nauseum. It has nothing
>on GL, for example, where you can handle objects.
Thanks for the clarification... Before posting my original request I had looked
into the Mac's 3D capabilities and dismissed them as low grade.
BobC
| 1comp.graphics |
hello,
I just want to make 2 points:
1) The FBI is not stupid. These people are chosen for their intelligence,
education, loyalty to the government, etc. They are given much intensive
training. So, to all of you who refuse to believe there could be any
conspiracy here, and say that the FBI was just stupid, I say I don't
believe it.
2) The FBI has acces to the latest in audio and video technology -- the
latest digital systems. The FBI can manufacture evidence. Need a tape of
Koresh saying, "light the fire", and you can have one. Need a thermal
imaging video of three people lighting fires, and through the magic of
computer graphics, you can have one. The thing is, manufacturing these
pieces of evidence takes time. So it may be a few more days before we
get to see them. Or maybe we just haven't heard any tapes or seen any
FBI video is because it is:
1) classified
2) too gruesome for our eyes
3) lost/got coffee spilled on it
Dwayne Jacques Fontenot
BTW, I get my information from live video feeds. I read the papers too,
but almost everything in them contradicts what I have seen with my own eyes.
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Darryl Strawberry's moon shots were fun! He can hit those high and far
home runs that if he actually ran them out he'd be rounding second base
by the time they landed. We used to say that he should have to file a
flight plan at LaGuardia for some of them. Then _Bull_Durham_ came out
and that was changed. :-)
On homers he pulled that didn't go high, they were microwave home runs.
Microwave, as in they got outta there in a hurry! In a game in 1988, he
came off the bench with the flu and on the second pitch send a rocket
down the right field line that didn't even allow Bob Murphy the "luxury"
of a home run call. The story went he stayed in the clubhouse, the with
the Mets down by two and two on Davey Johnson sent for him to pinch hit.
He came out of the clubhouse saying "one swing and we go home." He hit
the homer, ran the bases, then went straight for the clubhouse to shower
and go home.
Those were the days....
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| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <steph.735027990@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu> steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson) writes:
>>Smith, Ozzie .742 .717 .697 .672 .664 0.701
> The Wizard's 1988 is the second highest year ever. Still very good,
>but I don't like the way his numbers have declined every year. In a few
>years may be a defensive liability.
That's rich... Ozzie Smith a defensive liability...
Brett Rogers
addison@leland.stanford.edu
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1993Apr17.014638.56998@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, rwf2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (R
OBERT WILLIAM FUSI) writes:
>In article <23056.74.uupcb@cutting.hou.tx.us>, david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (D
a
>vid Bonds) writes:
>>In rec.autos, CPKJP@vm.cc.latech.edu (Kevin Parker) writes:
>> I'd like to get some feedback on a car with most bang for the buck in the
>> $13000 to 16,000 price range. I'm looking for a car with enough civility to b
e
>> driven every day, or even on long trips, but when I hit the gas, I want to fe
e
>l
>>
>>Take a look at a '91 Taurus SHO - they can be found for ~13k, and are the
>>ultimate in 4 door sports cars. Performance similar to a Mustang, but
>>quite civil and comfortable... Try to get a late model 91 for the better
>>shifter.
>>
>>
>
>>----
>>The Cutting Edge BBS (cutting.hou.tx.us) A PCBoard 14.5a system
>>Houston, Texas, USA +1.713.466.1525 running uuPCB
>
>>Well, you could always go with a 5.0 Mustang LX with a pleasant V8, but the
>diamond star cars (Talon/Eclipse/Laser) put out 190 hp in the turbo models,
>and 195 hp in the AWD turbo models, These cars also have handling to match
>the muscle, and are civil in regular driving conditions, rather than having a
>harsh, stiff ride....The AWD Turbo is clearly the better choice of the two
>(because of all that torque steer on the front drive model), but you may have
>to go with a leftover or "slightly" used model for that price range....tough
>decision...
>
> Rob Fusi
> rwf2@lehigh.edu
>
>--
> Car and Driver did a test with the same basic idea and chose the Ford Probe
GT (5sp of course)
>
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| 7rec.autos |
In article <C5o1yq.M34@csie.nctu.edu.tw> ghhwang@csie.nctu.edu.tw (ghhwang) writes:
>
>Dear friend,
> The RISC means "reduced instruction set computer". The RISC usually has
>small instruction set so as to reduce the circuit complex and can increase
>the clock rate to have a high performance. You can read some books about
>computer architecture for more information about RISC.
hmm... not that I am an authority on RISC ;-) but I clearly remember
reading that the instruction set on RISC CPUs is rather large.
The difference is in addressing modes - RISC instruction sets are not
as orthogonal is CISC.
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| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
hi netters,
I'm doing a project which is about image analysis. Firstly, I
have to find out any restrictions or limitations on the colour display
on various kind of workstations, they are DECstation, HP, Amiga, Apollo.
Secondly, I read from some graphic texts that image is displayed
in 24 bites(please point out to me if I got it wrong). But, the images
which I will deal with are displayed in 16 bites by the software they
are using currently. So, will there be any problems to display them
under X-windows in the future? Because we are thinking to implement the
GUI by X-windows for our project
Is there any person here can help me to solve the problem or
query above? Or, give me some advice or suggestion where I can find
them out.
Please send me an e-mail if there are any. Thanks in advance.
Yours
Christine Chan
my address : 9130037@golum.riv.csu.edu.au
| 1comp.graphics |
There is a guy in NASA Johnson Space Center that might answer
your question. I do not have his name right now but if you follow
up I can dig that out for you.
C.O.Egalon@larc.nasa.gov
Claudio Oliveira Egalon
| 14sci.space |
ahmeda@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Ahmed Abu-Abed) writes:
|What Hamas and Islamic Jihad believe in, as far as I can get from the Arab
|media,
|is an Islamic state that protects the rights of all its inhabitants under
|Koranic
|Law. This would be a reversal of the 1948 situation in which the Jews in
|Palestine took control of the land and its (mostly Muslim) inhabitants.
The borders of the Jewish state as drawn by the U.N. included the areas which
contained mostly Jews, that's what the surveys and the numerous commitees
where after when they visited here.
|However, whoever committed crimes against humanity (torture, blowing up their
|homes, murders,...) must be treated and tried as a war criminal. The political
|thought of these movements shows that a freedom of choice will be given to the
|Jews in living under the new law or leaving to the destintion of their choice.
I never touched an Arab during my army service and never voted for anyone more
right than the Green party. Will I be spared by these "humanist standards"?
(or will anyone stop to consider this before sloughtering me?)
I doubt it. And not only because of the past record of murdering helpless
women and children since the turn of the century up to these days.
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Jerusalem 91904, ISRAEL |
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| 17talk.politics.mideast |
Yeah, that about sums it up...
looking for a place that sells diffraction grating goggles in quantity...
thanks...
| 6misc.forsale |
>And of course, Mike Ramsey was (at one time) the captain in Buffalo prior to
>being traded to Pittsburgh. Currently, the Penguins have 3 former captains
>and 1 real captain (Lemieux) playing for them. They rotate the A's during the
>season (and even the C while Mario was out). Even Troy Loney has worn the C
>for the Pens.
I had heard(perhaps incorrectly) that while Lemieux was out, noone wore a
C on their jersey. The As took turns doing captain duties(whatever they
are).
Scott...
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In article <79615@cup.portal.com> Thyagi@cup.portal.com (Thyagi Morgoth NagaSiva) writes:
>
>
>"To all whom it may concern -
>
[constitution sacrificed to the bandwidth gods]
im glad i finally have heard exactly what the OTO is all about. i finally
know that i can stop looking, content i the knowlege that im not interested.
it's tough enough listening to all the religions who refer to themselves as
"the One Truth". How can i possibly accept it from a magical order? "We have
all the Answers and will give them to those who join us (and pay dues)?"
Scary. Besides, answers are easy. Questions! now that's another story...
rintaw
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| 19talk.religion.misc |
king@ctron.com (John E. King) writes:
>"The modern theory of evolution is so inadequate that it deserves to be
>treated as a matter of faith." -- Francis Hitching
The Modern Theory of Creationism: "He did it!" - Joe Creationist
I like it. Short. To the point. Made for Hollywood. This makes a hell
of a lot more sense than evolution! 8^)
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| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <30925@galaxy.ucr.edu> raffi@watnxt08.ucr.edu (Raffi R Kojian) writes:
>You know it is true don't you?
Well, apparently we have another son of Dro 'the Butcher' to contend with.
You should indeed be happy to know that you rekindled a huge discussion on
distortions propagated by several of your contemporaries. If you feel
that you can simply act as an Armenian governmental crony in this forum
you will be sadly mistaken and duly embarrassed. This is not a lecture to
another historical revisionist and a genocide apologist, but a fact.
I will dissect article-by-article, paragraph-by-paragraph, line-by-line,
lie-by-lie, revision-by-revision, written by those on this net, who plan
to 'prove' that the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Turks and Kurds is
nothing less than a classic un-redressed genocide. We are neither in
x-Soviet Union, nor in some similar ultra-nationalist fascist dictatorship,
that employs the dictates of Hitler to quell domestic unrest. Also, feel
free to distribute all responses to your nearest ASALA/SDPA/ARF terrorists,
the Armenian pseudo-scholars, or to those affiliated with the Armenian
criminal organizations.
x-Soviet Armenian government got away with the genocide of 2.5 million
Turkish men, women and children and is enjoying the fruits of that genocide.
You, and those like you, will not get away with the genocide's cover-up.
During the First World War and the ensuing years - 1914-1920,
the Armenians through a premeditated and systematic genocide,
tried to complete its centuries-old policy of annihilation against
the Turks and Kurds by savagely murdering 2.5 million Muslims and
deporting the rest from their 1,000 year homeland.
The attempt at genocide is justly regarded as the first instance
of Genocide in the 20th Century acted upon an entire people.
This event is incontrovertibly proven by historians, government
and international political leaders, such as U.S. Ambassador Mark
Bristol, William Langer, Ambassador Layard, James Barton, Stanford
Shaw, Arthur Chester, John Dewey, Robert Dunn, Papazian, Nalbandian,
Ohanus Appressian, Jorge Blanco Villalta, General Nikolayef, General
Bolkovitinof, General Prjevalski, General Odiselidze, Meguerditche,
Kazimir, Motayef, Twerdokhlebof, General Hamelin, Rawlinson, Avetis
Aharonian, Dr. Stephan Eshnanie, Varandian, General Bronsart, Arfa,
Dr. Hamlin, Boghos Nubar, Sarkis Atamian, Katchaznouni, Rachel
Bortnick, Halide Edip, McCarthy, W. B. Allen, Paul Muratoff and many
others.
J. C. Hurewitz, Professor of Government Emeritus, Former Director of
the Middle East Institute (1971-1984), Columbia University.
Bernard Lewis, Cleveland E. Dodge Professor of Near Eastern History,
Princeton University.
Halil Inalcik, University Professor of Ottoman History & Member of
the American Academy of Arts & Sciences, University of Chicago.
Peter Golden, Professor of History, Rutgers University, Newark.
Stanford Shaw, Professor of History, University of California at
Los Angeles.
Thomas Naff, Professor of History & Director, Middle East Research
Institute, University of Pennsylvania.
Ronald Jennings, Associate Professor of History & Asian Studies,
University of Illinois.
Howard Reed, Professor of History, University of Connecticut.
Dankwart Rustow, Distinguished University Professor of Political
Science, City University Graduate School, New York.
John Woods, Associate Professor of Middle Eastern History,
University of Chicago.
John Masson Smith, Jr., Professor of History, University of
California at Berkeley.
Alan Fisher, Professor of History, Michigan State University.
Avigdor Levy, Professor of History, Brandeis University.
Andreas G. E. Bodrogligetti, Professor of History, University of California
at Los Angeles.
Kathleen Burrill, Associate Professor of Turkish Studies, Columbia University.
Roderic Davison, Professor of History, George Washington University.
Walter Denny, Professor of History, University of Massachusetts.
Caesar Farah, Professor of History, University of Minnesota.
Tom Goodrich, Professor of History, Indiana University of Pennsylvania.
Tibor Halasi-Kun, Professor Emeritus of Turkish Studies, Columbia University.
Justin McCarthy, Professor of History, University of Louisville.
Jon Mandaville, Professor of History, Portland State University (Oregon).
Robert Olson, Professor of History, University of Kentucky.
Madeline Zilfi, Professor of History, University of Maryland.
James Stewart-Robinson, Professor of Turkish Studies, University of Michigan.
.......so the list goes on and on and on.....
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
papresco@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod):
We may actually get to see an entire country die by the sword within
our lifetimes. Tradgedy that.
That's ridiculous. Are you just trying to bait people, or are you
trying to argue in a cogent fashion?
--
Allan J. Heim allanh@sco.COM ...!uunet!sco!allanh +1 408 427 7813
| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <19607@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>>A recent movie, Lorenzo's Oil, offers a perfect example of what
>>I'm talking about. If you haven't seen it, you should. It's not
>
>I saw it. It is almost a unique case in history. First, ALD
>is a rare but fatal disease. [...]
>Their accomplishment was significant. (Of course, it was overplayed
>in the movie for dramatic effect. The oil is not curative, and doesn't even
>prevent progression, only slows it.)
There's a pretty good article in the the March 6, 1993 New Scientist titled
"Pouring cold water on Lorenzo's oil". The article states that research
has shown that the oil has no discernable effect on the progression of the
disease in patients in which demyelination has begun. In patients with
AMN (a less acute form of the same disease) there is some improvement
seen in the ability of nerve fibres to conduct impulses. In ALD patients
who have not yet begun demyelination, the jury is still out.
---Dale Cook
| 13sci.med |
Hello...
I wonder if some one can suggest an answer to the following question:
I am a total X novice and would appreciate any suggestions you may have.
I am trying to create a simple drawing tool....
__________
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|_____|
Let's say I have two rectangles on the canvas(see above)
one intersecting the other...
Now, I would like to delete one of the rectangles.
The way I do it is to create another GC wherein I use the
GXxor logical function and simply redraw the rectangle using the newly
created graphics context thus deleting it for all apparent purposes.
A problem with this approach is that at the points of intersection the pixel
locations belonging to the other rectangle also become white, which is
something that should be avoided.
Is there any way I can avoid this problem without having to redraw the other
rectangle too?
I also would not like to generate an expose event for the affected area
as this degrades performance very badly...
Thank you...
Gopal
| 5comp.windows.x |
HEY!!! All you Yankee fans who've been knocking my prediction of Baltimore.
You flooded my mailbox with cries of "Militello's good, Militello's good."
Where is he??!! I noticed he got skipped over after that oh so strong first
outing. He's not by any chance in Columbus now, is he? Please don't tell
me you're relying on this guy to be the *fourth*, not the fifth, but the
*fourth* starter on this brittle pitching staff.
As for the O's, it's still early.
See y'all at the ballyard
Go Braves
Chop Chop
Michael Mule'
--
Michael Andre Mule
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt0523e
Internet: gt0523e@prism.gatech.edu
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In <120365@netnews.upenn.edu> kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Keith Keller) writes:
>>
>>7. Carol Alt, Head Coach In 93-94?
>I wish! She can be *my* head coach any time!!!! (Sorry Ali! Back to
>real hockey.)
Hmmmmmm. I think I'll let everyone make there own comment on this one.
>>THE BAD
>>
>>Alexei Kovalev.
>>What did the Rangers think when they signed him? Did they think he
>>was another Domi? Just let him play! And not on a 4th line. Better
>>that he stays in the minors and gets ice-time ALL the time.
>Whose "bad"? It has been Neilson and Smith's decision to play him there,
>if that's what you mean, then that's bad. But Kovalev himself is a very
>good player. You're right, if he weren't stranded on the fourth line
>maybe he'd produce. Sound familiar? Darren Turcotte?
Neilson and Smith are bad. Kovalev is magical.
Lets Go Pens!
The Owl
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In <Apr.23.02.55.31.1993.3123@geneva.rutgers.edu>
Tim asks:
>I have stated before that I do not consider myself an atheist, but
>definitely do not believe in the christian god. The recent discussion
>about atheists and hell, combined with a post to another group (to the
>effect of 'you will all go to hell') has me interested in the consensus
>as to how a god might judge men. As a catholic, I was told that a jew,
>buddhist, etc. might go to heaven, but obviously some people do not
>believe this. Even more see atheists and pagans (I assume I would be
>lumped into this category) to be hellbound. I know you believe only
>god can judge, and I do not ask you to, just for your opinions.
>
This is probably too simplistic for some, but John 3:16 saus,
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only son, that
whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life".
Genesis 15:6, "And he (Abram) believed the LORD; and He reckoned
it to him as righteousness".
I don't find anywhere that God restricts heaven to particular
ethnic groups or religious denominations or any other category
that we humans like to drop people into. But He does REQUIRE
that we believe and trust Him. In Hebrews it says that God spoke
of old by the prophets (the old testament), but in these last days
he has spoken to us by His son Jesus Christ. And we learn of
Him through the pages of the New Testament. The Bible tells us
what we need to believe. For those who have never heard, I leave
them in God's capable care, He will make himself known as he
desires. It behooves each one of us to act upon the knowledge
we have. If you reject the claims of Jesus, and still go to
heaven, then the joke's on me. If you reject him and go to hell,
that's no joke, but it will be final.
Gerry
============================
The opinions expressed
are not necessarily those
of my employer.
============================
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <16695@rand.org>, jim@rand.org (Jim Gillogly) writes:
> This document is in the anonymous ftp directory at NIST. Looks to me
> like the other shoe has dropped.
>
> Jim Gillogly
> Trewesday, 25 Astron S.R. 1993, 17:00
>
Thanks for posting this and making it available. This post will be LONG, I will
comment on most of it, and am reluctantly leaving all of the original in place
to provide context.
Please note that an alt. group has been set up for the Clipper stuff.
> -------------------
>
> Note: This file will also be available via anonymous file
> transfer from csrc.ncsl.nist.gov in directory /pub/nistnews and
> via the NIST Computer Security BBS at 301-948-5717.
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> THE WHITE HOUSE
>
> Office of the Press Secretary
>
> _________________________________________________________________
>
> For Immediate Release April 16, 1993
>
>
> STATEMENT BY THE PRESS SECRETARY
>
>
> The President today announced a new initiative that will bring
> the Federal Government together with industry in a voluntary
^^^^^^^^^
Hum, AT&T, VLSI and Mykotronx are 'industry'?
Wonder what happened to IBM, this should be right up their street.
And a mandateed scheme is voluntary? Mr Orwell would love this.
> program to improve the security and privacy of telephone
^^^^^^^^^
> communications while meeting the legitimate needs of law
> enforcement.
Telephone encryption and scrambleing are years behind digital ones like RSA,
IDEA, or even DES. The above, while literaly true, is a clasic straw-man claim
in the context of non-real-time circuits such as E-mail and the like.
> The initiative will involve the creation of new products to
> accelerate the development and use of advanced and secure
> telecommunications networks and wireless communications links.
>
I would modestly propose that a mandated use of ISDN would do more for commun-
ications than this lot.
> For too long there has been little or no dialogue between our
> private sector and the law enforcement community to resolve the
> tension between economic vitality and the real challenges of
> protecting Americans. Rather than use technology to accommodate
> the sometimes competing interests of economic growth, privacy and
> law enforcement, previous policies have pitted government against
> industry and the rights of privacy against law enforcement.
>
> Sophisticated encryption technology has been used for years to
> protect electronic funds transfer. It is now being used to
> protect electronic mail and computer files. While encryption
Normmaly DES.
> technology can help Americans protect business secrets and the
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> unauthorized release of personal information, it also can be used
> by terrorists, drug dealers, and other criminals.
Note the use of the word "business" in the above. The whole tenor of this
release seems to be establishing a ground rule that only "business" use
is legitimate for debate. If you want the nothings you drop in your wife's
ear to remain secret and private, that is not even on the agenda for debate.
Note that there is NO role for you to contain private info in this. The only
reference is to information already in the hands of others. The 'unauthorized
release' bit is also drawing a long bow. Most of these cases are by people who
have legitimate access abusing it, and revealing, or often selling the info.
These people are, of course, in this proposal, the people who will have the
keys.
The criminals also use lawers, courts, the CIA, white-house officials and pens
to go about their business. When will they be outlawed as well? Yeah, several
of them would be a better idea than CLipper!
Them again, the protections of law and the courts have been seriously erroded
over the last decade ofr so.
> A state-of-the-art microcircuit called the "Clipper Chip" has
> been developed by government engineers. The chip represents a
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NSA
> new approach to encryption technology.
Yeah, this bit is VERY true.
>....It can be used in new,
> relatively inexpensive encryption devices that can be attached to
> an ordinary telephone. It scrambles telephone communications
> using an encryption algorithm that is more powerful than many in
> commercial use today.
>
Note the repeated mixing of telephone scrabeling and encryption. A demo
of the above claim on an ordanary POTS would be a good nights entertainment
I suspect. Note also the 'many'. not 'all', as the general tone implies.
> This new technology will help companies protect proprietary
^^^^^^^^^
> information, protect the privacy of personal phone conversations
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> and prevent unauthorized release of data transmitted
> electronically. At the same time this technology preserves the
> ability of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies to
> intercept lawfully the phone conversations of criminals.
The case record seems to indicate that what is needed is a brutal tightening
of the current abuses. I have not heard, yet, of a case that was impeaded by
the use of secure encryption by the men in black. The other side, abuse by law
enforcers is well documented, even by govt agencies. And the phone vs other coms
is blurred yet again.
> A "key-escrow" system will be established to ensure that the
> "Clipper Chip" is used to protect the privacy of law-abiding
> Americans.
> A "key-escrow" system will be established to ensure that the
> "Clipper Chip" is used to protect the privacy of law-abiding
> Americans.
Lets run that line twice. Not **VERY** carefully what it says. The stated
purpose of the key eschrow is to make the use of Clipper compulsory. Note the
word "ensure". As to 'protect', or 'law-abiding', I will leave to you.
So to the person who asked if it included the outlawing of other encryptions,
the answer in this press release is, YES.
> ...Each device containing the chip will have two unique
> "keys," numbers that will be needed by authorized government
> agencies to decode messages encoded by the device. When the
> device is manufactured, the two keys will be deposited separately
> in two "key-escrow" data bases that will be established by the
> Attorney General. Access to these keys will be limited to
> government officials with legal authorization to conduct a
> wiretap.
Just as they only can wiretap now with a warrent.
> The "Clipper Chip" technology provides law enforcement with no
> new authorities to access the content of the private
> conversations of Americans.
Just makes sure that the illegal ones are preserved.
> To demonstrate the effectiveness of this new technology, the
> Attorney General will soon purchase several thousand of the new
> devices. In addition, respected experts from outside the
> government will be offered access to the confidential details of
> the algorithm to assess its capabilities and publicly report
> their findings.
Where do you find many experts. Any ex KGB people looking for a contract? :-)
And as a later posting asks, what of the STU-IIIs they already have. It will
be very interesting to see if the military and US embasies start to use it.
After all, it is secure, isn't it. The govt will answer that point by its own
actions.
> The chip is an important step in addressing the problem of
> encryption's dual-edge sword: encryption helps to protect the
> privacy of individuals and industry, but it also can shield
> criminals and terrorists. We need the "Clipper Chip" and other
> approaches that can both provide law-abiding citizens with access
> to the encryption they need and prevent criminals from using it
> to hide their illegal activities. In order to assess technology
> trends and explore new approaches (like the key-escrow system),
> the President has directed government agencies to develop a
> comprehensive policy on encryption that accommodates:
>
> -- the privacy of our citizens, including the need to
> employ voice or data encryption for business purposes;
^^^^^^^^
Again, personal use seems to be a unaskable question.
>
> -- the ability of authorized officials to access telephone
> calls and data, under proper court or other legal
^^^^^
> order, when necessary to protect our citizens;
Ah, so warrents are not always needed it seems.
>
> -- the effective and timely use of the most modern
> technology to build the National Information
> Infrastructure needed to promote economic growth and
> the competitiveness of American industry in the global
> marketplace; and
>
> -- the need of U.S. companies to manufacture and export
> high technology products.
The ITARs seem to slightly impeed this.
> The President has directed early and frequent consultations with
> affected industries, the Congress and groups that advocate the
> privacy rights of individuals as policy options are developed.
> The Administration is committed to working with the private
> sector to spur the development of a National Information
> Infrastructure which will use new telecommunications and computer
> technologies to give Americans unprecedented access to
> information. This infrastructure of high-speed networks
> ("information superhighways") will transmit video, images, HDTV
> programming, and huge data files as easily as today's telephone
> system transmits voice.
Note that all this wonderfull stuff will be in secret. Only the 'proper people'
will be able to express an opinion, hence only the desired result will emerge.
> Since encryption technology will play an increasingly important
> role in that infrastructure, the Federal Government must act
> quickly to develop consistent, comprehensive policies regarding
> its use. The Administration is committed to policies that
> protect all Americans' right to privacy while also protecting
> them from those who break the law.
Encryption and codes have been around for millenia. They are generaly in
equilibrium with the technology of the time. The systematic study of cyphers
has resulted in a swing in favor of the encrypter, AT THE MOMENT. I have no
doubt that the factoring problem will fall in time. Probably fofr practical
purposes by the middle of the next century.
> Further information is provided in an accompanying fact sheet.
> The provisions of the President's directive to acquire the new
> encryption technology are also available.
>
> For additional details, call Mat Heyman, National Institute of
> Standards and Technology, (301) 975-2758.
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
> QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION'S
> TELECOMMUNICATIONS INITIATIVE
>
>
>
>
> Q: Does this approach expand the authority of government
> agencies to listen in on phone conversations?
>
> A: No. "Clipper Chip" technology provides law enforcement with
> no new authorities to access the content of the private
> conversations of Americans.
>
> Q: Suppose a law enforcement agency is conducting a wiretap on
> a drug smuggling ring and intercepts a conversation
> encrypted using the device. What would they have to do to
> decipher the message?
>
> A: They would have to obtain legal authorization, normally a
> court order, to do the wiretap in the first place. They
> would then present documentation of this authorization to
> the two entities responsible for safeguarding the keys and
> obtain the keys for the device being used by the drug
> smugglers. The key is split into two parts, which are
> stored separately in order to ensure the security of the key
> escrow system.
>
> Q: Who will run the key-escrow data banks?
>
> A: The two key-escrow data banks will be run by two independent
> entities. At this point, the Department of Justice and the
> Administration have yet to determine which agencies will
> oversee the key-escrow data banks.
It is a little hard to critisise a non-proposal.
> Q: How strong is the security in the device? How can I be sure
> how strong the security is?
>
> A: This system is more secure than many other voice encryption
> systems readily available today.
Note we drop back to 'phone-mode' again. If this is a true answer, it can be
rephrased as " It sucks big time. Anyone who can drive the crypt work-bench
will use it for light amusement before breakfast."
> ... While the algorithm will
> remain classified to protect the security of the key escrow
> system,
This link between the security of the key-eschrow, and the actual algorithm is
a real winner. Given that I have 2 secret 40 bit numbers, could someone please
explain how the details of an encryption algorithm will reveal them?
> ... we are willing to invite an independent panel of
> cryptography experts to evaluate the algorithm to assure all
> potential users that there are no unrecognized
> vulnerabilities.
Just make sure you read the CVs REAL carfully, OK.
>
> Q: Whose decision was it to propose this product?
>
> A: The National Security Council, the Justice Department, the
> Commerce Department, and other key agencies were involved in
> this decision. This approach has been endorsed by the
> President, the Vice President, and appropriate Cabinet
> officials.
Quick, with out looking back, What name is missing from that list?
> Q: Who was consulted? The Congress? Industry?
>
> A: We have on-going discussions with Congress and industry on
> encryption issues, and expect those discussions to intensify
> as we carry out our review of encryption policy. We have
> briefed members of Congress and industry leaders on the
> decisions related to this initiative.
The people who agree with us and who think there is a buck in it for them.
> Q: Will the government provide the hardware to manufacturers?
>
> A: The government designed and developed the key access
> encryption microcircuits, but it is not providing the
> microcircuits to product manufacturers. Product
> manufacturers can acquire the microcircuits from the chip
> manufacturer that produces them.
The reverse engineering provisions of the 'Mask-work' act could be relevent
here.
> Q: Who provides the "Clipper Chip"?
>
> A: Mykotronx programs it at their facility in Torrance,
> California, and will sell the chip to encryption device
> manufacturers. The programming function could be licensed
> to other vendors in the future.
>
> Q: How do I buy one of these encryption devices?
>
> A: We expect several manufacturers to consider incorporating
> the "Clipper Chip" into their devices.
You don't. Not unless you are one of the 'right people'.
> Q: If the Administration were unable to find a technological
> solution like the one proposed, would the Administration be
> willing to use legal remedies to restrict access to more
> powerful encryption devices?
>
> A: This is a fundamental policy question which will be
> considered during the broad policy review. The key escrow
They missed the word secret here. He needs a grammar lesson too.
> mechanism will provide Americans with an encryption product
> that is more secure, more convenient, and less expensive
> than others readily available today, but it is just one
> piece of what must be the comprehensive approach to
> encryption technology, which the Administration is
> developing.
I would say "less secure, less conveniant, more expensive ( PGP is free ),
less available, and more prone to being comprimised"
Proofs to the contarary will be welcome. Note PROOF.
> The Administration is not saying, "since encryption
> threatens the public safety and effective law enforcement,
> we will prohibit it outright" (as some countries have
> effectively done); nor is the U.S. saying that "every
> American, as a matter of right, is entitled to an
> unbreakable commercial encryption product."
They don't seem to be saying anything that makes much sense. And this proposal
DOES prohibit it except in a very limited way. And, this is the one explicit
reference to personal rights. It is a denial. And yes, I don't think that the
Mexicans, Brazilians, and Canucks are included in Clinton et als magnanamous
gesture.
> ... There is a
> false "tension" created in the assessment that this issue is
> an "either-or" proposition. Rather, both concerns can be,
> and in fact are, harmoniously balanced through a reasoned,
> balanced approach such as is proposed with the "Clipper
> Chip" and similar encryption techniques.
The 'false tension' is false. The balance is between two repugnant points. The
RIGHT to privacy is hand-waved to non-existance by putting it behind the "false
assessment". It is assumed that the removal of the right to take what ever steps
YOU deem suitable to protect YOUR privacy is non negotiable, hence is defined
in the govenment language to be non-existant. If you don't agree, you must be a
criminal, as only criminals don't agree with out laws. Also note the non-
question. "If what is here was not possible..."
> Q: What does this decision indicate about how the Clinton
> Administration's policy toward encryption will differ from
> that of the Bush Administration?
>
> A: It indicates that we understand the importance of encryption
> technology in telecommunications and computing and are
> committed to working with industry and public-interest
> groups to find innovative ways to protect Americans'
> privacy, help businesses to compete, and ensure that law
> enforcement agencies have the tools they need to fight crime
> and terrorism.
It indicates we know that Bush dropped the ball in squashing that nasty < insert
suitable retoric > and will stamp out this disorderly, unruley outbreak of
freedom and ultra-national sentiment.
> Q: Will the devices be exportable? Will other devices that use
> the government hardware?
>
> A: Voice encryption devices are subject to export control
> requirements. Case-by-case review for each export is
> required to ensure appropriate use of these devices. The
> same is true for other encryption devices. One of the
> attractions of this technology is the protection it can give
> to U.S. companies operating at home and abroad. With this
> in mind, we expect export licenses will be granted on a
> case-by-case basis for U.S. companies seeking to use these
> devices to secure their own communications abroad. We plan
> to review the possibility of permitting wider exportability
> of these products.
>
This one is a real giggle. In Australia or France, they will have to reveal the
keys, and the algorithm. Don't think it's at the top of my list of things I must
have, so the restrictions will protect me from saleks trying to sell me a bill
of crock.
Any for any others using it, they must be nuts!
Good luck folks.
~Paul
| 11sci.crypt |
In article <May.10.05.08.50.1993.3730@athos.rutgers.edu> bjorn.b.larsen@delab.sintef.no writes:
>We chose to believe whetever we want, but we are not allowed to define
>our own Christianity. we see in parts. If you see something that I do
>not see, or vice versa, it does not give me the right to play jokes on
>your belief!
>
It is important if Christianity is being damaged by it. If
people who "speak in tongues" make claims that they are
miraculously speaking a foreign language through the power of
the Holy Spirit, when it can easily be shown that they are simply
making noises, it damages all Christians, since many who are
not Christians do not distinguish between the various sects.
The more modest claim for "tongues" that it is simply
uncontrolled praise in which "words fail you" is surely the one
that should be used by those who make use of this practice.
I agree with the point that "Charismatic" practices like this
can lead to forms of worship which are more about the
worshipper showing off than genuine praise for God; one of the
things Jesus warned us about.
Matthew Huntbach
| 15soc.religion.christian |
In article <1993Apr22.173240.29129@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn) writes:
>In article <C5vGME.GoA@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> wwarf@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Wa
>yne J. Warf) writes:
>>In article <C5v9Fv.Krt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvin
>e) writes:
>>>
>>>If you won't believe anything the government says, and the press
>>>is not reliable according to the same logic, then what do you base
>>>your statements on? Wild speculation laced with a healthy dose
>>>of paranoia?
>>
>>Are you a moron or just illiterate?
>> [...]
>>Oh, I forgot, you're the guy that doesn't know microwave oven need
>>electricity, never mind.
>
> And you're the guy that doesn't know that illiterate people can't write
>coherent sentences. Does that make you superior somehow?
>
Oh my god, I made a typo AND used the word "god". Come burn my house
down, I must deserve it.
> Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
> "Across the page / across the ages / the moving hand of history [pleads]
> For a kinder eye to see us / not as we are / but as we dream"
> -- Mark King
--
+ Wayne J. Warf -- WWARF@ucs.indiana.edu -- I speak for myself only +
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <1r6170INNdlu@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM>, dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard) writes:
> Just heard on the network radio news a spokesman from the army
> saying that the type of CS gas used in Waco had been banned from
> military use. Its use is also banned by a draft international
> agreement on the use of chemical weapons in warfare.
>
> The reason given was that the use causes extreme nausea,
> blindness, disorientation, total irrationality, raging paranoia.
> Children would be all the more susceptible, and show the results
> all the earlier.
Interesting development. Especially since the Feds (and the U.N.)
accused Saddam Hussein of using illegal chemicals on his own
citizens as well. Hmmm... Republican Guard/Iraqu Army = FBI/BATF?
You decide.
--
I hope very much that others who will be tempted to join cults
and to become involved with people like David Koresh will be
deterred by the horrible scenes they have seen over the last
seven weeks.
-President William Jefferson Clinton, April 20, 1993,
at a press conferance held the day after the Branch Davidians
"compound" went up in flames while under attack by the FBI/ATF
near Waco, Texas. Is your church U.S. Government approved?
CONNECT THE GOD-DAMNED DOTS!!! Ministry, TV Song
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| 16talk.politics.guns |
In article <34650@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Sturges) writes:
|> I have ordered many times from Competition accesories and ussually
|> get 2-3 day delivery. Once they had to backorder something, but they
|> sent me a card to say it would be two weeks. Came in 10 days or so.
|>
ordered 2 fork seals and 2 guide bushings from CA for my FZR. two weeks later
get 2 fork seals and 1 guide bushing. call CA and ask for remaining *guide*
bushing and order 2 *slide* bushings (explain on the phone which bushings are
which; the guy seemed to understand). two weeks later get 2 guide bushings.
*sigh*
how much you wanna bet that once i get ALL the parts and take the fork apart
that some parts won't fit?
axel
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In <murashiea.16@mail.beckman.com> murashiea@mail.beckman.com (Ed Murashie) writes:
>Does anyone know of a program for the PC that
>will take AutoCad DXF format files and convert
>them to a raster format, like PCX, GIF, etc?
>Thanks in advance....
> ED
I'm also interested in such a program. But most of all I'd like to know
wich program is able to convert GIF or PCX to DXF !!! When I have this
program, I can scan pictures and frase (or something like that !) them.
This will be beyond the limit !!!
****** Roderick ******
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <C5qMJJ.yB@ampex.com> jag@ampex.com (Rayaz Jagani) writes:
>
>From Miranda Castro, _The Complete Homeopathy Handbook_,
>ISBN 0-312-06320-2, oringinally published in Britain in 1990.
>
>From Page 10,
>.. and in 1946, when the National Health Service was established,
>homeopathy was included as an officially approved method
>of treatment.
I was there in 1976. I suppose it must have died out since 1946,
then. Certainly I never heard of any homeopaths or herbalists in
the employ of the NHS. Perhaps the law codified it but the authorities
refused to hire any homeopaths. A similar law in the US allows
chiropractors to practice in VA hospitals but I've never seen one
there and I don't know of a single VA that has hired a chiropractor.
There are a lot of Britons on the net, so someone should be able to
tell us if the NHS provides homeopaths for you.
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| 13sci.med |
Hi everybody!
Does anyone know of companies that are currently manufacturing
encryption chips for sale to the general public? Get them while you
can! Some pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Steve
| 11sci.crypt |
I would also be interested in finding out about the '94 Talon,
and I suspect that many other people would be interested too,
so let's get some responses on the net.
The question again:
Does anyone have any info on the 1994 Eagle Talon / Mitsubishi
Eclipse / Plymouth Laser?
I know that the old Talon was based on the Mitsubishi Galant,
and that in Japan, a 240 hp twin-turbo V6 1994 Galant has been
released.
So anyway, any info on the '94 Talon would be appreciated.
Steve Hui
| 7rec.autos |
wstuartj@lucky.ecn.purdue.edu (W Stuart Jones) writes:
>I want to go from 512K to 1M VRAM on my Quadra 800. How many 512K SIMMS do I
>need to buy?
None. You need to buy 2 80ns 256k VRAM SIMMs. They cost about $30
each from your favorite memory distributor.
>Is the current 512K soldered on the board or do I need to take out the
>current VRAM before I add more?
The 512k is soldered to the logic board. There are 2 SIMM slots for
expansion.
-Hades
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: NNR/VM S_1.3.2
Last week I went to see a gastroenterologist. I had never met this
doctor before, and she did not know what I was there for. As soon as I
arrived, somebody showed me to an examining room and handed me a gown.
They told me to undress (from the waist down, to be exact) and wait for the
doctor. Is this the usual drill when you go to a doctor for the first
time? I don't have much experience going to doctors (knock on wood), but
on the couple of occasions when I've gone to a new doctor, I met him
with my clothes on. First, he introduced himself, asked what I was there
for and took a history, all before I undressed.
Are patients usually expected to get naked before meeting a doctor
for the first time? Personally, I'd prefer to meet the doctor on
something remotely resembling a condition of parity and to establish an
identity as a person who wears clothes before dropping my drawers. If
nothing else, it minimizes the time that I have to spend in the self
conscious, ill at ease and vulnerable condition of a person with a bare
bottom talking to somebody who is fully clothed.
Does anybody besides me regard this get-naked-first-and-then-we-can-talk
attitude as insensitive? Also, is it unusual?
James Arbuckle Email: v5113e@vm.temple.edu
| 13sci.med |
In article <C60n8u.I8y@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) writes:
>
>So of the 120 hp produced by my FJ1100 engine,
>
> 12 hp * (745.7 watts)/1 hp = 8.948 kilowatts
>
>is being dumped into 220 leetle tiny o-rings? That's 40.67 watts per
>o-ring! Seems a little *hot*, doncha think?
>
>:-O
>Chuck Rogers
>car377@torreys.att.com
So, hey, like, does this work the other way? If I was to like, you
know, strap a generator to my FZJRR11000KRX and route its output to
the chain, could I increase the horsepower? 32 meters a sec is
pretty nice and all, but, I'd still like to be able to blow away
a Goldwing without going to nitro...
--
DoD #388 XJ1100J "Big Maroon" VF700F "L'Audace"
Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian
| 8rec.motorcycles |
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