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Hi,
I'm trying to get my program to monitor resize/position events,
so that when the program exits, I can save the last known geometry in
some sort of 'preferences' file.
I am adding an event handler for StructureNotify to the TopLevelShell:
XtAddEventHandler(topLevel,StructureNotifyMask,False,configureCB,myData);
This works fine, and my callback is called whenever the window is resized
or repositioned using the window manager (mwm).
However, when I'm just resizing the window, using any resize handle on the
window manager resize decoration, the x and y are set to zero in the
XEvent passed to the event handler callback. I'm accessing the xconfigure
structure, like the X11 manual says. (xev->xconfigure.x, xev->xconfigure.y).
The width and height memebers are correct.
When I reposition the window, using the window manager, the xevent's xconfigure
structure contains all the correct x, y, width, height member settings.
Q1: Anybody know why, when just resizing, the x and y are being set to zero?
Q2: Any other way to handle detecting and saving geometry changes?
I've tried using XtGetValues() on the topLevel widget when exiting my
application (before destroying any widgets) and all I get is garbage values
for the x, y, width, height resources.
Thanks
--
Bob Ross (ross@li.loral.com) | "Mr. Plow, that's the name. That name
Loral Instrumentation, San Diego, CA | again is Mr. Plow" - Homer Simpson
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1993May19.005019.10716@midway.uchicago.edu> clmn@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <C78Iq9.MCD@bony1.bony.com> jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) writes:
>>Palestine was a name given to that same area after the Jews already
>>had their own governments there for a very long time. Palestinean
>>nationality is a recent political invention, no more than a few
>>decades old. This is what the Jew Jake says to that!
>This may be true but I think we Jews dismiss Palestinian nationalism at our
>peril. Its newness doesn't obviate its reality.
>
>Besides, Israeli nationalism is a new phenomenum as well.
Israeli nationalism (also known as Zionism) is the nationalism of the
Jewish people. The Jewish people are not a new phenomenon at all.
Palestinean nationalism is the nationalism of Arab people. Arabs have
been around for a long time. They already have some 2 dozen states,
large and small, covering 98% of the Middle East.
More specifically, Palestinean nationalism is the nationalism of Arabs
from the region of Palestine, just as Egyptian nationalism is the
nationalism of Arabs from the region of Egypt. One Palestinean state
already exists in what was once known as Palestine: - it is called
Jordan.
There is no justification in carving out a second and tiny Palestinean
state out of the only Jewish state, itself very, very small, just as
there is no justification in carving out another American state out of
Mexico.
--
Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Ten years from now, George Bush will
American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <ha80hh6@zola.esd.sgi.com> cj@sgi.com writes:
>
>In article <1qk73q$3fj@agate.berkeley.edu>, dzkriz@ocf.berkeley.edu writes:
>| If you are paying for a phone, and you don't want call-waiting, YOU DON'T
>| NEED TO PAY FOR CALl-WAITING.
>[...]
>| If one is paying for a PRIVATE health insurance plan and DOES NOT WANT
>| "abortion coverage" there is NO reason for that person to be COMPLELLED
>| to pay for it. (Just as one should not be compelled to pay for lipposuction
>| coverage if ONE doesn't WANT that kind of coverage).
>
>Why the hell would somebody named "Dennis" be paying for
>abortion coverage at all? Why aren't you also complaining that
>you want your insurance premiums reduced because you won't be
>needing that pap smear coverage?
>
>C J Silverio cj@sgi.com ceej@well.sf.ca.us
How would someone named "Dennis" be stuck paying for "abortion
coverage" ... if abortion is put under a catagory of a "general
medical procedure." You have to ask the insurer: "Would my policy
cover an abortion?" to find out. If it does, you should have a
right to decline that "coverage" if YOU DON'T WANT IT.
The basic premise in private insurance is that you pay for the
coverage YOU WANT. If basically you want "catastrophic coverage"
you get a policy with a high deductible (with a correspondingly
LOWER premium). Similarly, you don't have to be COMPELLED to
take on a policy covering things like liposuction or hair
transplantation, if you DON'T WANT THAT KIND OF COVERAGE, again,
at a corresponding savings to you.
If you don't want to be "covered" for abortion, you should not be
COMPELLED to. To millions of Christians, abortion is not a
"gynocological examination" or a "pap smear." To them abortion
is murder. To them, being "covered for abortion" means that they
are paying for a "service," which THEY THINK IS EVIL, CLEARLY
DON'T WANT, and will NEVER USE. In such a case, all that is
happening is that they are being COMPELLED to help pay for OTHER
PEOPLE'S abortions.
When you are being forced to BUY something you DON'T WANT and
will NEVER USE, this is called extortion.
When the mafia tells a restaurant owner to "buy" a "juke-box" for
the owner's "protection" this is called racketeering.
And if one's access to health care is held hostage to signing a
defacto "loyalty oath" in support of abortion, by promising to
help pay for other people's abortions (when one is clearly
opposed to this procedure) this is tantamount to the same thing.
dennis
dzkriz@ocf.berkeley.edu
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Experiences with Diamond Viper VLB video card
Several problems:
1) The ad specified 16.7 million colors at 640x480 resolution with 1MB
of VRAM, which is what I have. This color depth is NOT SUPPORTED
with video BIOS version 1.00 and drivers version 1.01. A max of 65K
colors are supported at 640x800 and 800x600 resolutions with 1MB
VRAM.
2) With the 65K color choice I notice two minor irritations:
a) Under NDW, when an entry in a list is highlighted (such as in an
Open menu) and then is deselected, a faint vertical line often
remains where the left edge of the highlighted rectangle used to
be.
b) With Word for Windows, when you use shading in a table, the
display shows the INVERSE of the shading; for example, if you
shade the cell as 10%, the display is 90% (the printout is OK).
3) The big killer bug is using the Borland C++ Integrated Development
Environment. The problem occurs when you click on the Turbo Debugger
icon (or use the Debugger option in the Run command), and the
debugger application goes to VGA character mode (as it is designed
to do). The screen goes haywire, and is largely unreadable. The
Turbo Debugger display is all garbled.
Through trial and error, I have found that when the disrupted screen
is displayed you should do [Alt-Spacebar] followed by the letter
"R". This instructs Turbo Debugger to refresh the screen, and it
does this satisfactorily. I wish I didn't have to do this.
The bug is more than with the Diamond drivers. The same disruptive
behavior happens with the standard VGA driver that comes with
Windows. There must be something in the video card that mishandles
the VGA mode.
The problem is not my monitor. The same bug shows up when I use
another monitor in place of my usual one.
I still like this video card, and am hoping its problems will be
remedied (they do offer a 5 year warranty).
---
swh, 20apr93
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1993Apr16.164811.21637@newshub.ists.ca> dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra) writes:
>[...] and I'll give Fuhr's new one an honourable mention, although I haven't
>seen it closely yet (it looked good from a distance!).
This is the new Buffalo one, the second since he's been with the
Sabres? I recall a price tag of over $700 just for the paint job on
that mask, and a total price of almost $1500. Ouch.
--
Valerie Hammerl Birtday -(n)- An event when friends get
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu together, set your dessert on fire, then
acscvjh@ubms.cc.buffalo.edu laugh and sing while you frantically try
v085pwwpz@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu to blow it out.
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
Has anyone built Xkernel for 3/80's? It works great on our 3/50s, and I
would just as soon kiss the entire Sun 3 architeture goodbye (and reclaim
a bunch of disk space). Email me direct, I'll post a summary.
--
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* Systems Administrator *
* Florida State University Mathematics Department *
* email: boyd@math.fsu.edu Office: (904) 644-7167 Pager: (904) 657-6425 *
******************************************************************************
| 5comp.windows.x |
kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) writes:
: In article <1993Apr5.045612.14229@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
:
: > [...] You're not breathing clean air provided by government
: > regulations, [...]
:
: If this doesn't beat all I ever heard! The above certainly says a
: mouthful about the mindset of Ted Frank, and also of statists
: everywhere.
: --
Yes, there's certainly no need to argue with him, or address the
substance of what he says- he's a statist, after all. Probably
politically correct, too...
Bill
| 18talk.politics.misc |
aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
:
: >: nuet_ke@pts.mot.com (KEITH NUETZMAN X3153 P7625) writes:
: >: > HELP!!!
: >: > my wife has informed me that she wants a convertible for her next car.
: >jp@vllyoak.resun.com (Jeff Perry) writes:
: >: FYI, just last week the PBS show Motor Week gave the results of what they
: >: thought were the best cars for '93. In the convertible category, the
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(snip, snip)
: Does Porsche have a patent on the "targa" name?
: I mean, convertible to me means "top down", which the del Sol certainly
: does NOT do. It has the center that lifts out. This is what i would
: term a targa(unless Porsches was gonna sue me for doing that). I know
: the rear window rolls down, but i still can hardly consider this car
: to be a convertible.
:
: DREW
Here we go...
No, of course Porsche doesn't have a patent on the "targa" name. If that were
the case, what would Fiat do? I suppose that technically my del Sol is not a
"convertible" in the literal sense, but it certainly classifies as an open-
topped car. In addition, the rear section behind the removable top is what
makes my car _infinately_ safer than a convertible.
(flame-retardant on ...)
Diane
dspalme@mke.ab.com
| 7rec.autos |
Note: The following was released by the White House today in
conjunction with the announcement of the Clipper Chip
encryption technology.
FACT SHEET
PUBLIC ENCRYPTION MANAGEMENT
The President has approved a directive on "Public Encryption
Management." The directive provides for the following:
Advanced telecommunications and commercially available encryption
are part of a wave of new computer and communications technology.
Encryption products scramble information to protect the privacy of
communications and data by preventing unauthorized access.
Advanced telecommunications systems use digital technology to
rapidly and precisely handle a high volume of communications.
These advanced telecommunications systems are integral to the
infrastructure needed to ensure economic competitiveness in the
information age.
Despite its benefits, new communications technology can also
frustrate lawful government electronic surveillance. Sophisticated
encryption can have this effect in the United States. When
exported abroad, it can be used to thwart foreign intelligence
activities critical to our national interests. In the past, it has
been possible to preserve a government capability to conduct
electronic surveillance in furtherance of legitimate law
enforcement and national security interests, while at the same time
protecting the privacy and civil liberties of all citizens. As
encryption technology improves, doing so will require new,
innovative approaches.
In the area of communications encryption, the U. S. Government has
developed a microcircuit that not only provides privacy through
encryption that is substantially more robust than the current
government standard, but also permits escrowing of the keys needed
to unlock the encryption. The system for the escrowing of keys
will allow the government to gain access to encrypted information
only with appropriate legal authorization.
To assist law enforcement and other government agencies to collect
and decrypt, under legal authority, electronically transmitted
information, I hereby direct the following action to be taken:
INSTALLATION OF GOVERNMENT-DEVELOPED MICROCIRCUITS
The Attorney General of the United States, or her representative,
shall request manufacturers of communications hardware which
incorporates encryption to install the U.S. government-developed
key-escrow microcircuits in their products. The fact of law
enforcement access to the escrowed keys will not be concealed from
the American public. All appropriate steps shall be taken to
ensure that any existing or future versions of the key-escrow
microcircuit are made widely available to U.S. communications
hardware manufacturers, consistent with the need to ensure the
security of the key-escrow system. In making this decision, I do
not intend to prevent the private sector from developing, or the
government from approving, other microcircuits or algorithms that
are equally effective in assuring both privacy and a secure key-
escrow system.
KEY-ESCROW
The Attorney General shall make all arrangements with appropriate
entities to hold the keys for the key-escrow microcircuits
installed in communications equipment. In each case, the key
holder must agree to strict security procedures to prevent
unauthorized release of the keys. The keys shall be released only
to government agencies that have established their authority to
acquire the content of those communications that have been
encrypted by devices containing the microcircuits. The Attorney
General shall review for legal sufficiency the procedures by which
an agency establishes its authority to acquire the content of such
communications.
PROCUREMENT AND USE OF ENCRYPTION DEVICES
The Secretary of Commerce, in consultation with other appropriate
U.S. agencies, shall initiate a process to write standards to
facilitate the procurement and use of encryption devices fitted
with key-escrow microcircuits in federal communications systems
that process sensitive but unclassified information. I expect this
process to proceed on a schedule that will permit promulgation of
a final standard within six months of this directive.
The Attorney General will procure and utilize encryption devices to
the extent needed to preserve the government's ability to conduct
lawful electronic surveillance and to fulfill the need for secure
law enforcement communications. Further, the Attorney General
shall utilize funds from the Department of Justice Asset Forfeiture
Super Surplus Fund to effect this purchase.
| 11sci.crypt |
richardp@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Richard Patterson) writes:
>Need reference material on any connections between BCCI and the CIA. Also
>any information on BCCI's money laundring, drug and arms dealings.
>Refernces must be published in mews media or similar printed media.
>Please provide the name and date of the reference.
>Thank you for your time and assistance.
How about connections between BCCI and TCI? Reference to the BCCI
money laundering appears in an insert in an article about the TCI
cable company and its sharp -- and possibly illegal -- business
practices. The article is in the 27-Jan-92 issue of the Wall Street
Journal.
--
paul hager hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu
"It is error alone which needs the support of government.
Truth can stand by itself." --Thomas Jefferson
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
In article <93090.141001E62763@TRMETU.BITNET> <E62763@TRMETU.BITNET> writes:
>Hi.I'm a Turkish guy who had tried atheism,satenism and buddism at some instant
>s of hislife.Finally I decided on Islambecause of many facts which I intend to
> write here.From my point of view,you atheists are people who has dropped to a
>deep,dark well and thinking the only reality is the dusty walls of the well.But
> if you had looked a little bit upward you would see the blue skies.You'dsee t
>he truth but you close your eyes.Allah is the only GOD and Mohammed is his mess
> ager.now,let's generate some entropy in means of theology and thermodynamics.W
>hat's your point of view to the problem of the ''FIRST KISS''?That is,the first
> spark which was generated for the formation of the universe.Has it formed by i
>tself?You are bothering yourselves with the Big Bang but where is the first spa
>rk?Please think a bit.Think and return to the only reality of the universe:ISLA
>M|
Uh oh. This looks a bit too much like Bobby's "Atheism Is False" stuff. Are
we really going to have to go through this again? Maybe the universe is
cyclical! :) :(
--Brendan Dunn
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <121477@netnews.upenn.edu> balog@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Eric J Balog) writes:
>When posting Winmark results, it is a good idea to give the version of
>WinBench that you used to obtain the scores, as well as the resolution that
>you tested and the version of the drivers.
Doesn't anybody actually read the licence agreement of WinBench
before blindly running it? The licence agreement very clearly says
that details about hardware configuration, driver, resolution and
other relevant facts *MUST* be included when giving WinMark results.
Ziff-Davis wants everybody to do this and that requirement makes
sense, really! Plain numbers are useless when resolution, driver and
machine are unknown.
--
Pekka.Taipale@hut.fi
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
In article <1993Apr19.230236.18227@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, daviss@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (S.F. Davis) writes:
> In article <1quule$5re@access.digex.net>, prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
> |>
> |> AW&ST had a brief blurb on a Manned Lunar Exploration confernce
> |> May 7th at Crystal City Virginia, under the auspices of AIAA.
> |>
> |> Does anyone know more about this? How much, to attend????
> Here are some selected excerpts of the invitation/registration form they
> sent me. Retyped without permission, all typo's are mine.
Thanks for typing that in, Steven. Sounds like a "fall back and
regroup" strategy session.
I wanted to add that my copy of the brochure arrived with a flattering
cover letter:
"Invitations are being extended to those who have demonstrated a
strong committment to space program development and have been
influential in its advancement. We sincerely hope you will be able to
attend."
Wow! I wonder which of my contributions to the conquest of space
convinced them to send me this letter?
I hope you decide to go, Pat. The Net can use some eyes and ears
there...
Bill Higgins | If we can put a man on the Moon, why can't
Fermilab | we put a man on the Moon? -- Bill Engfer
higgins@fnal.fnal.gov | If we can put a man on the Moon, why can't
higgins@fnal.Bitnet | we put a woman on the Moon? -- Bill Higgins
| 14sci.space |
In article <C5sLAs.B68@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu
(Ken Arromdee) wrote:
>
> In article <sandvik-190493200420@sandvik-kent.apple.com> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
> >So we have this highly Christian religious order that put fire
> >on their house, killing most of the people inside.
>
> We have no way to know that the cultists burned the house; it could have been
> the BATF and FBI. We only have the government's word for it, after all, and
> people who started it by a no-knock search with concussion grenades are hardly
> disinterested observers.
There's another point to be made. Those who have been inside burning
houses know that if they want to stay alive, it's better to run out
from the building. We had one case where an FBI agent *had to
drag out a women* from the burning house, she run back in when
she saw the forces arriving. It is a good indication of the fanatical
mind that the followers had -- including having they children burned
instead of saving these innocent victims of the instance.
Cheers,
Kent
---
sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <gradyC5uAMw.BnG@netcom.com> grady@netcom.com (1016/2EF221) writes:
>I guess the cryptowranglers read this group too. But of
>course I knew that because it is so easy to do. There is
>not a single doubt in my mind that every byte that passes
>every significant gateway or 'bone is captured for the
>colligation of data about __________? (Maybe your name is here).
I really like these claims. Where did they come from? We hear,
practically daily, that the NSA monitors, oh, everything. They can
crack anything. They'd never release a cryptosystem they couldn't crack.
Where do people get these fascinating facts? 'The Puzzle Palace'?
If you can get it for a buck, 2nd hand, it must be true, eh? I'm pretty
sure the NSA is supposed to, among many other things, provide high-quality
cryptosystems to a variety of places. I don't recall reading anywhere
reliable that they're supposed to:
1) Monitor my phonecalls.
2) Monitor usenet.
3) Provide only cryptosystems they can easily crack.
4) etc etc.
This is not to say that they *don't*, they might. But you don't
know that they do, and you have no evidence that they do, for almost
all values of you. It follows, therefore, that for most values of 'you',
your claims about the NSA border on paranoia.
Andrew
| 11sci.crypt |
In a previous article, speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer) says:
>I was attacked by a rabid hubcap once. I was going to work on a Yamaha
>750 Twin (A.K.A. "the vibrating tank") when I heard a wierd noise off to my
>left. I caught a glimpse of something silver headed for my left foot and
>jerked it up about a nanosecond before my bike was hit HARD in the left
>side. When I went to put my foot back on the peg, I found that it was not
>there! I pulled into the nearest parking lot and discovered that I had been
>hit by a wire-wheel type hubcap from a large cage! This hubcap weighed
>about 4-5 pounds! The impact had bent the left peg flat against the frame
>and tweeked the shifter in the process. Had I not heard the approaching
>cap, I feel certian that I would be sans a portion of my left foot.
>
Hmmmm.....I wondered where that hubcap went.
--
DoD #650<----------------------------------------------------------->DarkMan
The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of
thinking we were at when we created them. - Albert Einstein
___________________The Eternal Champion_________________
| 8rec.motorcycles |
Hi,
Can anybody suggest robust algorithms/code for computing the point of intersection
on n, 2-d lines in a plane. The data has outliers and hence a simple least squares
technique does not seem to provide satifactory results.
Please respond by e-mail and I will post the summary to the newsgroups
if there is sufficient interest.
Thanks,
Raj Talluri
Member Technical Staff
Image Understanding Branch
Texas Instruments
Central Research Labs
Dallas, Texas 75248
talluri@csc.ti.com
| 1comp.graphics |
In article <mvpC5rB2H.D2F@netcom.com>, mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt) says:
>There is something terribly wrong, however, with a culture which
>condemns, attacks, and all too often kills any of its members who
>attempt to get an education. My mother is an elementary school
>teacher, and she tells me that she and her african american collegues
>are frustrated to tears by the fact that any african american child who
>attempts to do well in school and get an education is accused by
>his/her peers of "trying to be white", and is beaten, bullied, and
>tormented by them. It goes beyond each passing grade on a test earning
>a beating. In my mother's school, one of the most promising young
>students, who happened to be african american, had her throat cut by
>one of these young thugs.
You know, you have a point here, but don't stop with African Americans...
When I was in high school in the early 1980s, on various occasions I had
knives pulled on me, had friends who were stabbed, and I was beaten up
repeatedly by those that couldn't accept me as different. And don't
let the teachers off the hook either. On many many occasions, there
were teachers that either resented me or were too scared out of their
wits by the bullies to even stop the people who attacked me and they
would just watch quietly... All of this was in a nice white middle
class high school. In fact, we were so nice and white that we made
sure that the one black kid in my class was unable to go to the prom
with his white girlfriend... This isn't a race thing, it's the
way public schools seem to be run...
I'd hate to be in high school right now... At least I didn't have
to deal with guns, just the roving psycho-drug-dorks and the jocks-
without-a-future-but-with-plenty-of-testosterone...
I'd separate everyone who wants to learn from these assholes... But hey,
the valuelessness of learning and glorification of jocks is an American
tradition, you think anything is going to change? If you have kids,
take 'em out of the public school system and educate them yourself...
That's what I'll do if I ever have them... I wouldn't wish what I went
through upon any kid... Maybe on some of their parents though...
Scott
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article <MCHEN.93Apr22131702@terra.cs.psu.edu> mchen@terra.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) writes:
>If companies compressed their executables with LZW andd did some kind of
>encryption in the process, this "change two bytes here" thing would go right
>out the window.
Not entirely true. A friend of mine was having trouble finishing the game
GODS and asked me for help since he could not find a "trainer" (small
patch that lets you play without losing lifes). The game is compressed but
I did find *one* byte which when changed in the original *compressed* file
would not affect the decompression and would also prevent the "shield" in the
game from being tured off turning therefore making you invincible.
There are many other progs whose copy protection was defeated one way or
another and I have seen examples of this with my own eyes. The copy
protection schemes defeated were various such as using protected mode,
compressed executables, progs that load and execute other progs (possibly
compressed), dongles, key disks, etc...
I believe that persistence overcomes even the very best copy protection
schemes.
>--
> Michael Chen | From the depths of our most lucid horrors |
> | spring our fond hopes and pure desires... |
> mchen@cs.psu.edu | except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92 |
--
Alex T. Ivopol cyborg@kauri.vuw.ac.nz
External User - Victoria University of Wellington - New Zealand
************* I speak for myself and no one else. *************
| 12sci.electronics |
I'm looking for any information regarding Text Search Engines... Specifically,
I'd prefer source or binaries which will run in a MS-Windows and/or UNIX
environment scanning either flat files or common DB structures...
References to PD, Shareware, or Commercial implementations welcome...
Please reply via email -- I'll summarize if desired.
Thanx !
-- Doc
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
In article <1993Apr21.211312.7767@ra.royalroads.ca>,
mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm Lee) wrote:
> In article <9601@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, rjl+@pitt.edu (Richard J. Loether) writes:
> |> Yes, of course, as in Matthew 10:34-35 "Do not suppose that I have come to
> |> bring peace to the earth; it is not peace I have come to bring but a sword..."
> Remember the armor of God? The sword that Christians wield is the
> Word of God, the Bible.
Sorry Malcolm, but I rather believe Jesus than you.
Cheers,
Kent
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| 19talk.religion.misc |
>> No, it isn't. It is the "X Window System", or "X11", or "X" or any of
>> a number of other designations accepted by the X Consortium. In fact,
>> doing "man X" on pretty much any X11 machine will tell you:
>>
>> The X Consortium requests that the following names be used
>> when referring to this software:
>>
>> X
>> X Window System
>> X Version 11
>> X Window System, Version 11
>> X11
>>
>> There is no such thing as "X Windows" or "X Window", despite the repeated
>> misuse of the forms by the trade rags. This probably tells you something >> about how much to trust the trade rags -- if they can't even get the NAME
>> of the window system right, why should one trust anything else they have
>> to say?
I used to think this way, and not just about X. For example, incorrect
English constructs such as "its raining" or "it's window id" annoy me.
However, there comes a time when popular usage starts to dictate the way
things really are in the world. Indeed, the fact that X won out over NeWS
was really down to popular opinion (I know, we all think it's(!) technically
superior as well!).
On a related topic, who is to say that "color" is more or less correct
than "colour" - being Irish, and hence using English English as opposed
to American English, I always use the latter except, of course, for API
terms such as "XAllocColor" and "colormap".
In a world that uses the term "Windows" to refer to Microsoft Windows,
perhaps the time has come to accept "X Windows" as a valid term for X.
I think that this is a more concise and uncluttered term than, say,
"the X Window System" and, let's face it, almost everyone uses it.
Ultimately, we all need product sales to more than just X-literate
people. In this respect, product recognition is important and a short,
snappy, descriptive title ("X" is positively obscure) will help
when dealing with the average punter (it's sad - I thought I was a
software engineer!). Indeed it is unfortunate that X did not become
popularly known as Windows and let MS worry about whether it should
be called "Microsoft Windows" or "the Microsoft Window System" or
how about just plain "Microsoft"!
To summarise (or should that be "summarize") the point of this message:
I think there are far more pressing issues facing the X community than
worrying about subtle distinctions in the naming of the window system
(or should that be "windowing system"). Whatever gets recognised is
fine by me. I agree that one should be careful in interpreting what
trade papers say. However, I would be reluctant to come to this
conclusion purely on the basis of how they name the X Window System.
Gerard O'Driscoll (gerard.odriscoll@dps.co.uk)
Du Pont Pixel Systems Ltd.
| 5comp.windows.x |
I just donwloaded a *.bin file from a unix machine which is
supposed to be converted to a MAC format. Does anyone know
what I need to do to this file to get it into any Dos, Mac
or Unix readable format. Someone mentioned fetch on the unix
machine - is this correct? Could someone explain the .bin
format a little?
Thanks,
Elizabeth
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| 1comp.graphics |
In article <C5sv88.HJy@news.cso.uiuc.edu> irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent
Irvine) writes:
> In article <1r1j3n$4t@transfer.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D.
Tavares) writes:
> >In article <1r19tp$5em@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, mfrhein@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael
Frederick Rhein) writes:
> >
> >> >napalm, then let the wood stove inside ignite it.
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> As someone else has pointed out, why would the stove be in use on a warm
day
> >> in Texas.
> >
> >Do YOU eat all your food cold?
>
> Ever hear of electric ovens or microwaves? Very popular.
> Electric stoves outside metro-areas especially.
Brent shows his ignorance once again. Power had been cut for weeks. And he's
never lived in a rural area if he thinks electric stoves have favor there.
They stop working when the power fails, and power restoration come MUCH slower
in the country, than the city. LP gas stoves and ovens are very much prefered.
>
> --
> <><><><><><><><><><> Personal opinions? Why, <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> <> BRENT IRVINE <> yes. What did you think <> irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu <>
> <><><><><><><><><><> they were?....... <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Jim
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"I'm always rethinking that. There's never been a day when I haven't rethought
that. But I can't do that by myself." Bill Clinton 6 April 93
"If I were an American, as I am an Englishman, while a foreign troop was landed
in my country, I never would lay down my arms,-never--never--never!"
WILLIAM PITT, EARL OF CHATHAM 1708-1778 18 Nov. 1777
| 16talk.politics.guns |
A short comment:
>As you may recall, the early Christians were pacifists preferring to
avoid
>physical confrontation rather than dealing with it in like manner.
The mother church of Jerusalem disappeared when the Romans took the city.
Despite some pious legends, the evidence seems to be that the members of
the church died fighting the Romans during what they believed to be the
last days. We know that certain Apostles had nicknames connecting them to
Jewish terrorist groups. For the average inhabitant of the Roman Empire
(especially after centuries of political instability and terror), the
Roman policies in Palestine were heartily approved of. When studied with a
knowledge of cult psychology, Acts is eerily familiar, especially today.
--
Harry Erwin
Internet: erwin@trwacs.fp.trw.com
Have found some interesting work...
| 19talk.religion.misc |
eu> Apple does not authorise sales through Mail Order. As a result mail
eu> order companies have to obtain their machines by the grey market.
eu>
eu> This market is supplied with machines from authorised resellers who
eu> have more machines than they can sell. They come into this state of
eu> affairs by overordering either accidentally or deliberatly to get a
eu> better wholsale price from Apple. In either case they often obscure
eu> the serial nunber to protect their identity. As a result the warranty
eu> is void.
I have ordered several Macs from different mail order companies with absolutely zero problem. You have to dig around to find the true gray market dealers that sell Macs with authentic serial numbers untouched. There are value-added dealers (nothing to do with VAT, no flame please) that are very legitimate.
CDA unfortunately is one of those that replace the serial number with their own to prevent Apple from tracing which authorized dealer sold that machine to CDA.
--
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
Eric Choi - Internet: Eric.Choi@p5.f175.n2240.z1.fidonet.org
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <coburnn.735431559@spot.Colorado.EDU>, coburnn@spot.Colorado.EDU (Nicholas S. Coburn) writes:
|> essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes:
|>
|>
|> >my FZR's black exhaust pipes are rusty and i researched getting them repaired.
|> >yesterday i bought a can of VHT 1500 degree black header paint and spent an
|> >hour sanding two of the header pipes by hand. sprayed on paint. thought
|> >about how clean i was able to get the metal with sanding and determined that
|> >i wouldn't be at all suprised if the paint wore/chipped off in a month.
|>
|> [Parts deleted]
|>
|> >axel
|>
|> Axel,
|>
|> Why not just purchase one of the Fyex exhaust bras for about $40? They
|> look great and are cheaper than powder coating. (I had the same dilemma and
|> opted for these. I am quite pleased.)
ok. so what's an "exhaust bra"? i'm guessing it's not a fabric thing that
straps to the pipes... does it go over the chin fairing/lowers in some way?
i usually don't ride with the lower plastic...
axel
| 8rec.motorcycles |
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| 6misc.forsale |
sakelley@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Scott Kelley) writes:
>Does anybody know where I could find a driver for a Future Echo
>Infomasster [sic] CDE 600 CD-ROM drive? A friend is running this drive
>off of a PC and would like to use it on the mac.
Here are some contacts for generic CD-ROM drivers:
Optical Access International
800 West Cummings Park, Suite 2050
Woburn MA 01801
(617) 937-3910
(617) 937-3950 fax
AppleLink: OAI
FWB, Inc.
2040 Polk Street, Suite 215
San Francisco, CA 94109
(415) 474-8055
(415) 775-2125 fax
AppleLink: FWB
Optical Media International
180 Knowles Drive
Los Gatos, CA 95030
(408) 376-3511
(408) 376-3519 fax
AppleLink: OMI
Trantor Systems (for Intel architecture machines)
5415 Randall Place
Fremont, CA 94538
(415) 770-1400
AppleLink: TRANTOR
Software Architects (not verified)
11812 North Creek Parkway N.
Suite 202
Bothell, WA 98011
AppleLink: SOFTARCH.DEV
> Casa Blanca Works(not verified)
> 415-461-2227
> Applelink: CBWorks
To send a message to someone on AppleLink, use the form
address@applelink.apple.com
where "address" is replaced by the appropriate applelink address.
--Brian Bechtel blob@apple.com "My opinion, not Apple's"
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
In article <Apr.14.03.07.38.1993.5420@athos.rutgers.edu> johnsd2@rpi.edu writes:
>In article 28388@athos.rutgers.edu, jayne@mmalt.guild.org (Jayne Kulikauskas) writes:
>
>> Drugs are a replacement for Christ.
>>Those who have an empty spot in the God-shaped hole in their hearts must
>>do something to ease the pain.
>
>I have heard this claim quite a few times. Does anybody here know
>who first came up with the "God-shaped hole" business?
>
>> This is why the most effective
>>substance-abuse recovery programs involve meeting peoples' spiritual
>>needs.
>
>You might want to provide some evidence next time you make a claim
>like this.
>
In 12-step programs (like Alcoholics Anonymous), one of the steps
involves acknowleding a "higher power". AA and other 12-step abuse-
recovery programs are acknowledged as being among the most effective.
Unfortunately, as evidence for God, this can be dismissed by stating
that the same defect of personality makes substance abusers as makes
people 'religious', and the debunker could perhaps acknowledge that
being religious is a better crutch than being a drug addict, but
still maintain that both are escapism. (And I suspect that there
are some atheists who would find the substance abuse preferable to
Christianity.)
I think that an essential problem with communication between Christ-
ians and atheists is that as Christians we necessarily see ourselves
as incomplete, and needing God (the 'God-shaped hole'), while atheists
necessarily see themselves as self-sufficient. If the atheists are
right, Christians are guilty of being morally weak, and too cowardly
to stand up for themselves; if the Christians are right, the atheists
are guilty of considerable arrogance. (I use the term atheist to
refer to a person who has a definite conviction that there is no God,
as opposed to one who does not know and/or does not care about God.)
==
Seanna Watson Bell-Northern Research, | Pray that at the end of living,
(seanna@bnr.ca) Ottawa, Ontario, Canada | Of philosophies and creeds,
| God will find his people busy
Opinion, what opinions? Oh *these* opinions. | Planting trees and sowing seeds.
No, they're not BNR's, they're mine. |
I knew I'd left them somewhere. | --Fred Kaan
(let's see...I spelled 'sowing' right; I got the author's name right--maybe
my 3rd iteration .sig will be a keeper.)
| 15soc.religion.christian |
93!04.16 e.v. After the Glorious Eve of Taxation
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.
The word of Sin is Restriction.
"To all whom it may concern -
...
"It is known only to a few that there exists an external visible
organization of such men and women, who having themselves found
the path to real self-knowledge, and who, having travelled the
burning sands, are willing to give the benefit of their experience,
and to act as spiritual guides to those who are willing to be
guided.
"While numberless societies, associations, orders, groups etc.
have been founded during the last thirty years in all parts of
the civilised world, all following some line of occult study,
yet there is but ONE ancient organization of genuine Mystics
which shows the seeker after truth a Royal Road to discover
The Lost Mysteries of Antiquity, and to the Unveiling of the
One Hermetic Truth.
"This organization is known at the present time as the Ancient
Order of Oriental Templars. Ordo Templi Orientis. Otherwise:
The Hermetic Brotherhood of Light.
"It is a Modern School of Magic. And, like the ancient schools
of magic, it derived its knowledge from the East. This Knowledge
was never its possessors.[sic] It was recorded in symbol, parable
and allegory, requiring a Key for its interpretation....
"This key can be placed within the reach of all those who... apply
for membership to the Oriental Templars (O.T.O.).
"The O.T.O.... is a body of Initiates in whose hands are
concentrated the secret knowledge of all Oriental Orders and of all
existing Masonic Degrees....
"The O.T.O., although an Academia Masonica, is not a Masonic Body,
so far as the Craft degrees are concerned in the sense in which that
expression is usually understood in England, and therefore in no way
conflicts with or infringes the just priveleges of the United Lodge
of England. English Master Masons in good standing, by arrangement,
on affiliation, are admitted at reduced charges. Members of the IX
degree become part-proprietors of the Estates and Goods of the Order.
For further information see the publications of the O.T.O., and the
synopsis of the degrees of the O.T.O."
'Constitution of the Ancient Order of Oriental Templars,
Ordo Templi Orientis',
by Frater Superior Merlin Peregrinus X Degree,
Past Grand Master Albert Karl Theodor Reuss
Taken from _Equinox III: 10_,
Edited by Frater Superior Rex Summus Sanctissimus,
United States Caliph of Ordo Templi Orientis
Invoke me under my stars. Love is the law, love under will.
I am I!
Frater (I) Nigris (DCLXVI) (CCCXXXIII)
| 19talk.religion.misc |
You are such a LOSER!!!!
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| 17talk.politics.mideast |
B8HA000 <B8HA@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> writes:
>Just a couple of questions for the pro-Israeli lobby out there:
>1) Is Israel's occupation of Southern Lebanon temporary? For Mr.
>Stein: I am working on a proof for you that Israel is diverting
>water to the Jordan River (away from Lebanese territory).
Israel has made it quite clear that it has absolutely no desire to
keep any Lebanese territory, and will leave completely after a peace
treaty is signed and Lebanon gains control of its own country from
Syria and controls the terrorists launching strikes against Israel
from Lebanon.
Considering this, it obviously would be pointless for Israel to be
working on diverting water away from Lebanese territory.
>2) Is Israel's occupation of the West Bank, Gaza, and Golan
>temporary? If so (for those of you who support it), why were so
>many settlers moved into the territories? If it is not temporary,
>let's hear it.
Who gets to keep what parts of Judea and Samaria will be determined in
a peace settlement. Obviously, Israel will keep some, and the Arabs
will get some.
Israel has tried to get out of Gaza almost from the time it got stuck
with it. It has been refused by the Arabs several times. Although
there are some Israelis who are extremely reluctant to give it up, I
seriously doubt Israel will keep more than a tiny portion of it in any
settlement.
The Golan Heights is a serious security problem, and Israel obviously
will have to keep part of it and give up part of it. (One should
remember that the Golan Heights had been part of the area that was to
be in Britain's Palestine Mandate, slated to become part of the Jewish
state, until Britain traded it to France for other considerations. In
other words, it is an historical accident that it was ever part of
Syria.)
--
Alan H. Stein astein@israel.nysernet.org
| 18talk.politics.misc |
A little bit off of the subject but here goes
yes he is one in the same (i.e. Chevrolet Motor Div)
also his brother Gaston raced at Indy and was the winner in 1920.
I have also seen the name Arthur Chevrolet in the early teens (1911 and on)
I assume he is related
Keith Nuetzman, nuet_ke@pts.mot.com
Motorola Inc.
Paging and Wireless Data Group
Boynton Beach, Fl
see ya at Indy 500 and "400" ...yes!!!
| 7rec.autos |
jcorry@erasure_sl.cc.emory.edu (Jeremy Corry) writes:
>new 300 series Mercedes Benz wagon...
>Particularly, I would like to hear about power (manual t. only)...
>Any comparisons between the Saab 9000 line and the Mercedes would be helpful.
If a manual transmission is a "must have", then the M-B 300TE is not in
the running. You cannot get a manual transmission in that car in North
America. It seems that buyers here (or, maybe more accurately, the
distributors) are not interested in manual trannies.
The '93 300 line comes with a 217 hp engine. All earlier years are 177 hp.
I have an '87 300E, with a "mere" 177 hp and auto tranny, and I find that
it has sufficient power for any normal driving situation. More is always
nice, but I can't complain.
I test drove a Saab 900 CSE last fall. Here are my impressions:
1) Awesome power, especially over 3500rpm, when the turbo really comes on.
2) If you get on the power really hard in a tight corner, the front-wheel
drive causes it to understeer heavily, and then viciously "hook" into
the corner. Not a desirable handling trait, but common in powerful
front drive cars. (The CSE is 200hp. Mercedes is rear-drive, so it
does not have this problem.)
3) Huge interior and cargo space.
4) The most "rubbery" shifter I have ever encountered. I drove a 5spd. It
was absolutely numb. You might be able to get used to it - I don't know.
I also didn't like its location, which was too far down, and too far right.
From the shifter's position, I got the impression that Saab really designed
the car for an automatic.
5) It was rather noisy: Engine buzz, rattles, and creaks. (Mercedes does
not exhibit these characteristics.)
You should also check out the new BMW 525 "touring". This is a wagon version
of the 525i. It fits into the class with the 300TE and Saabs.
--
Michael Chmilar
chmilar@apple.com
| 7rec.autos |
All you BD apologists seem to be conveniently forgetting
Jonestown. It would have looked much worse if the feds had just
waited till they all committed suicide. This was a no win situation,
although the final raid was a tragic failure - they should have
been able to get more people out alive.
-Mike
P.S. The title for this thread is ridiculous. Feds couldn't give a hoot
about their religous ideas - weapons was the problem. Similar situations
have popped up with those "I'm not gonna pay taxes" freaks in Idaho, etc.
where religion clearly has no bearing. Religous freedom here, as an issue,
is a complete smokescreen.
| 18talk.politics.misc |
In article 260493115730@raven.aims.unc.edu, fhunt@med.unc.edu (Freb Hunt) writes:
> > Is there some relation between the name 'Cybele' and the phenemenon of the
> > 'sibyl'? Your paragraph above seems to indicate there might be.
The OED gives the etymology of "sibyl" as coming from the ancient Greek
sigma iota beta upsilon lambda lambda alpha
( S i b ih l l a )
which is claimed to come from the Doric
sigma iota omicron beta upsilon lambda lambda alpha
( s i o b ih l l a )
which (if I read it properly) in turn came from the Attican (Athenian)
theta epsilon omicron beta omicron upsilon lambda eta
( th eh o b o ih l ae )
I don't know much about Attis, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that
this God was tied to the Athenian capital
Alpha tau tau iota kappa upsilon sigma
(a t t i k u s)
The OED does not list any etymology for "Cybele" since that is a propper noun,
but I suggest that the Greek spelling of that word would be much closer to
the anticedants of Sibyl than the two words are now. Perhaps "Cybele" is a
French or Latin spelling?
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Quite right, your batteries should be perfectly alright and retain
most of their charge if drained and dried well, but I'd throw out the
electrolyte and buy some more when you need it.
And before anyone says I'm wrong, remember that new batteries almost
always come ready charged and dry, and they are perfectly OK even after
several years' storage at the shop.
Mark Fox
| 8rec.motorcycles |
In article <1993Apr16.232149.22105@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> ece_0028@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu wrote:
> Sorry, but Mormons aren't generally considered to be Christians.
> >--
> >=kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu | B(0-4) c- d- e++ f- g++ k(+) m r(-) s++(+) t | TSAKC=
> >=My thoughts, my posts, my ideas, my responsibility, my beer, my pizza. OK???=
> >="Do you have some pumps and a purse in this shade? A perfume that whispers, =
> >='please come back to me'? I'm looking for something in Green."-Laurie Morgan=
Sorry, but it doesn't matter what _you_ think, I am a Christian, who happens to
belong to the LDS Church. [The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints].
I don't usually read t.r.m. It is truly informative to stop by, and see that there
are still people in the world like those that forced my ancestors into the deserts
of Utah, and then out of the country entirely. (My grandmother was born in Mexico,
where her family had moved to escape religious persecution in the US). I'm willing
to admit that members of other churches are Christians, if they believe in Christ and
(try to) follow his teachings, even though they have different interpretations of
the bible. And yet these other churches often go out of their way to define whether
or not I am considered to be Christian. Could someone mail me a set of rules/beliefs
that must be followed to be a Christian? Does this set of rules exclude other large
bodies of believers?
I know, this is a waste of everyone's time, this has probably been discussed N times,
etc. I guess I'm more sensitive to this 'demonization' after what went on in Texas.
--
Don Corbitt, donc@microsoft.com
Mail flames, post apologies. Support short .sigs, three lines max.
(I consider this a rebuttal, not a flame...)
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Re: The 25MHz IIsi
I used the Radio Shack heat sink compound solution with no clamps,
works fine. The caution holds, though. Don't tilt your Mac!
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
Can anyone help me find any information on the drug Prozac? I am writing
a report on the inventors , Eli Lilly and Co., and the product. I need as
much help as I can get. Thanks a lot, Adriana Gilmete.
| 13sci.med |
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| 18talk.politics.misc |
Allan Hatcher (ahatcher@athena.cs.uga.edu) wrote:
: Well, here goes. After lurking for a LONG time, I'll announce myself. Yes, I'm
: the enemy. The enemy that also happens to ride an "arrest me red" 90 VFR.
I don't generally consider police officers "the enemy". I hope you don't
think bikers in general have that attitude. Stereotypes suck either way.
: I'll entertain questions but my answers will reflect Georgia law and may not
: apply in your state.
:
: P.S. Anyone got a Nomex suit for sale?
You shouldn't get flamed for being a cop. I can't promise you won't because
there are jerks on this newsgroup same as any other, but if you've been
lurking for a while you already know that. You might get lots of flames
if you try to convince people that you know more than them just because you
have a badge. And of course, you will get a moderate amount of flamage
just for expressing an opinion, no matter what the opinion is *somebody*
will flame you for it.
So, have you ordered any official DoD paraphenalia yet? Wristwatch,
bandana, patches? Tell your boss your going undercover with a real
badass biker gang. :-)
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| 8rec.motorcycles |
Most of the key issues in the 284 line post to which I am following up are
dealt with in the following post I made on talk.abortion yesterday,
modified to correct the next to last paragraph.
Message-ID: <nyikos.734890344@milo.math.scarolina.edu>
References: <nyikos.734360987@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <nyikos.734640769@milo.math.scarolina.edu> <1993Apr13.122356.3612@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
In <1993Apr13.122356.3612@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz) writes:
>In article <nyikos.734640769@milo.math.scarolina.edu>, nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
>> In <CS132073.93Apr9160836@cslab1g.cs.brown.edu> cs132073@cs.brown.edu (John Bates) writes:
>>
>> >In article <nyikos.734360987@milo.math.scarolina.edu> nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
>> > perhaps out
>> >of dedication to your convictions. I never, *never*, thought that you
>> >would be consciously intellectually dishonest, though.
>>
>> I am not. Can you show me anything that would lead you to think
>> otherwise?
>See the "Spreading Christianity" thread, in which he says I
>ignore certain statements that I specifically acknowledged and
Dean did not. He called them "the Great Commission" but this is NOT
descriptive of Jesus's words in Matt. 10:15.
Matt. 10:14, Jerusalem Bible translation:
"And if anyone does not welcome you or listen to what you have
to say, as you walk out of the house or town shake the dust
from your feet."
Matt. 10:15:
"I tell you solemnly, on the day of Judgment it will not
go as hard with the land of Sodom and Gomorrah as with
that town."
In the post to which Dean is referring above, I said:
"> The above is a good description of Kaflowitz, who keeps harping on
> shaking the dust off the feet but ignoring what Christ said next."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^
The highlighted words refer to Matt 10:14 and 10:15 respectively.
And Dean countered:
"Actually, this comment of your's is a perfect example of what an
intellectually dishonest little sparrowfart you are, since I
specifically acknowledged the Great Commission and the entreaty
to spread the word. In fact, it is the combination of the two
statements I was addressing, and not just the one, and for you to
characterize that as "ignoring" the instruction to spread the
word is a good example of what a dishonest little fellow you are."
Of course, Matt 10:15 [quoted above] makes no mention of "instruction
to spread the word."
All these quotes btw are from:
Message-ID: <1993Apr13.121624.3400@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
>in which, at the end, he claims I did not answer a question
>which I answered, and which he deleted (to get the chronology
>right, he deleted the answer and then said I didn't answer).
And I claim it correctly, because my question went:
"Do you, too, measure
the goodness of a post by its entertainment value, and care not
a whit for such mundane things as truth and falsehood?"
and the closest Dean came to an answer was:
"Peter, Peter, Peter. You're just so stupid, pretentious, dull,
and generally unworthy of the value you place on yourself that
the sport is all there is."
Of course, this does NOT answer my question, which has to do with posts
in GENERAL and not my posts in particular. Surely even Dean knows this,
yet he brazenly asserts otherwise, reinforcing his claim with an insult:
"So I now restore the answer to your question
that you deleted. If you're still unable to figure it out, ask
a nice kid at the local junior high to help you. It really
doesn't take much sophistication to understand."
On top of which, I doubt that the "answer" is at all representative
of Dean's true frame of mind. The insults you have seen quoted thus
far are but a small sample of the stream that oozes out of Dean's
mind throughout the 284-line post from which these quotes were taken.
One wonders whether Dean's mind is so warped as to find sport in all
this.
He even dredges up a falsified account of
events that transpired earlier on another thread:
"You made an ass of yourself by claiming that it
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
was in the tradition of Lent to make public announcements of
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
the "sins" of other individuals."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
False. I said it was the tradition to recall and atone for one's sins.
That I made public announcements of the "sins" of others
--"sins", BTW, that were a matter of public record, documented in
the posts of others-- is a different matter.
Many of the individuals involved are so nearly amoral that
they do not see as sins what morally upright people see as sins, so
I pointed some of them out. And I expressly set up a whole thread,
YOUR TURN, to let people point out MY sins to me.
Dean again:
"You made an ass of yourself
by saying that my statement of the tradition of tzedukkah was
somehow an attempt to "paint Jews as plaster saints," thereby
revealing your inability to understand the discussion as well
as showing your dislike for people saying positive things
about Jews, and now you show your intellectual dishonesty by
repeatedly ignoring the simple argument being made, and then
claiming I am ignoring the very argument I acknowledge."
Actually, what happened was that Dean made it seem like ANY Jew
who gave alms or did other acts of charity in public was a hypocrite
according to Jewish customs. In doing so, he was caricaturing
Jewish customs as being almost impossibly demanding, as well as
implicitly slandering all Jews who make public their acts of charity.
I went very easily on Dean for this, giving him the benefit of
the doubt in a post following my initial crack about "plaster saints",
suggesting that he had been merely careless in his wording.
In an astonishing act of ingratitude, Dean now serves up an incredibly
distorted picture of what took place between us, and using it as
the basis of one insult after another.
Peter Nyikos
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article 20009@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca, maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
>In <1993Apr15.160450.27799@sol.UVic.CA> gballent@hudson.UVic.CA (Greg Ballentine) writes:
>>Gainey is the best defensive forward ever. I stand by that assessment.
>>He was a very good player who belongs in the hall of fame. Did you
>>ever watch him play? He never made a technical error.
>
>I watched him over his entire career. I have NEVER seen a player, and that
>includes Russell Courtnall and Davie Keon, screw up as many breakaways as
>Bob Gainey. And I will never forget the time Denis Potvin caught Gainey
>with his head down. You have been sold a bill of goods on Bob Gainey.
>
>Gainey was a plugger. And when the press runs out of things to say about
>the stars on dynasties they start to hype the pluggers. Grant Fuhr, Essa
>Tikkannen, Butch Goring, Bob Nystrom, Bob Gainey, Doug Jarvis, Derek
>Sanderson, Wayne Cashman, Bob Baun, Bob Pulford, Ralph Backstrom, Henri
>Richard, Dick Duff...and so on...
These players all are pretty good players. They are the depth that the
dynasties had to win Stanley Cups. They tend to be the very good second
line guys- who would be first liners on most weaker clubs in the NHL.
They were all important to their clubs. Probably, several of these
Stanley Cup winning teams would not have won the cups they did if it
were not for the depth provided by these players.
They compare to Rick Tocchet and Ron Francis of the Penguins. Very good
players who can lead lesser teams (Francis-Hartford, Tocchet-Philly) who
provide the depth to the team that is currently best in the NHL.
As a defensive forward, there have been none better than Bob Gainey. That
doesn't mean he was the best player (or even the best forward) the Canadians
had at that time, but he was excellent at what he did. Gainey could
dominate games with his defence. He didn't need to get goals to dominate.
He shut down the opposition and was thus valuable. There has never been
anyone any better at doing this. Not ever.
Gregmeister
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <visser.735284180@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:
> Please get an explaination of exactly what this "non-toxic" tear
>gas was and what the delivery system was. I refuse to believe any
>explaination provided by the FBI/ATF without lots of facts.
>
> I do not believe that there is such a thing as "non-toxic" tear
>gas.
>
You are correct. See today's (4/21) Washington Post. The gas the
FBI used is most certainly fatal in high concentrations. Of course,
non-toxic tear gas is an oxymoron; the whole point of tear gas is
that it is toxic, and its toxic effects cause people to seek
fresh air.
--
Legalize Freedom
| 19talk.religion.misc |
I am in the market to buy a used car. I am particularly
interested in the Pontiac Bonneville. My budget is between 7-
8 thousand. Would I be able to afford an 88 or 89. What
engines were available at this time. I know they didn't
redesign until the 1992 model year. How is the reliability of
past models. I would appreciate any advice or information.
Neil Gandler
| 7rec.autos |
The restriction could have to do with the car being a convertible.
A lot of paronoid laws were passed concerning convertibles in the 80's.
These states may require greater rollover protection than the Capri affords.
Thatch Harvey
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Hi,
I need to know if there is a 256 color graphics mode that allows multiple
pages. I want something like mode 0x10 (640x350x16 2 pages). I have been
experimenting with graphics by calling the BIOS with borland turbo c. I
feel like I am flying blind in this area, and could use all the help that
you can give.
Thanks,
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| 1comp.graphics |
In article <1993May13.184233.6060@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>
>Hmmm. Not sure what's required for ships. Probably not much, since
>if a ship goes down it doesn't hurt too many people other than those
>on the ship and those who invested in it. If a plane or spacecraft
>goes down, it can make quite a nasty mess on the ground, should it
>land in an inappropriate place.
Considering the magnitude of loss of life in both the Moro Castle
and Titanic disasters, I can't believe you can be so blithe
there fred.
Besides if a LNG tanker breaks up in a close harbor, you can kiss
off quite a lot of population. same thing for any chemical
tankers.
I know the coast guard makes mandatory safety equipment
checks on all watercraft. they use this as an excuse to
make narcotics searches, without warrants.
I suspect, that commercial craft need a certificate at least similiar
in scope to an air worthiness certificate from the DOT.
pat
| 14sci.space |
In <strnlghtC5wHo2.1FK@netcom.com> David Sternlight writes:
>In the Clipper case, a representative body of experts is going to be allowed
>to audit it, and we'll have assurances (maybe even from the President) that
>other than the escrowed keys there are no back doors. While some may not
>have confidence in that (I am not among them)
Wow, assurances from the President. Why, those are almost as good as
campaign promises! I don't see why ANYONE wouldn't have confidence in
those.
| 11sci.crypt |
kmembry@viamar.UUCP (Kirk Membry) writes:
>I remember reading about a program that made windows icons run away
>from the mouse as it moved near them. Does anyone know the name
>of this program and the ftp location (probably at cica)
As I remember it, the name of the program your looking for is called icofrite.
Cica was where I saw it last. It was quite a while ago.
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| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
Anyone have a price quote/vendor for the vx to centris 650 upgrade?
I've been quoted a price of $2401 till August 15th after which it will
cost $2732. This of course doesn't include the trade-in rebate of
$1300 for the vx board. Thus for $1101 one gets a Centris 650, 8 meg
onboard with both the FPU and Ethernet. Anyone else have any info?
This price is from the University of Illinois micro-order center, are
there any other vendors who offer similar prices?
johann
j-beda@uiuc.edu
| 4comp.sys.mac.hardware |
barring@cs.washington.edu (David Barrington) writes:
>NPR this morning had an interview with Linda McCarthy (name possibly
>garbled by me), an official historian for the CIA. She has won an Emmy
>for research on Moe Berg for a TV documentary (which I know from nothing
>but which sounds good). She said that among other things, Berg was the
>principal spy for the OSS (CIA's WWII precursor) spying on Axis atomic
>programs, because of his physics background and language skills. She said
>that during the war he met with Heisenberg in Switzerland, and had
>instructions to shoot Heisenberg if the Germans were close to us in bomb
>research (he concluded they were two years behind, and didn't shoot him).
>(I have heard elsewhere that Heisenberg deliberately misled the Nazi bomb
>program, but I don't know how reliable this is.) Unfortunately, NPR didn't
>mention any kind of a book she's writing -- I'd certainly buy it.
>Dave MB
There is a great book out called "They Also Served" which is about the
ballplayers during WWII. There is some info on Berg in there. It also has
info on Pete Gray (one armed outfielder) and other players of the era. Because
of the draft many players during the war were those who were exempt from the
draft for medical reasons. There are some very interesting stories in the
book. It is very well written and I would suggest reading it to anyone with an
interest in baseball.
Rob Koffler
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| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <strnlghtC5wJAG.46L@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
Doug Holland claims Tom Clancy has provided the recipe for nuclear bombs.
Clancy himself says he has omitted certain crucial steps. Further, how do we
know Clancy knows, rather than repeating what he's read or been told in the
unclassified domain?
On the other hand, when John Aristotle Phillips was a junior at Princeton
trying to keep from flunking physics by doing a terrific term paper,
his atom bomb design was good enough that it got classified.
A few of the steps were derived from social engineering
(e.g. the name of the explosive), but it was fundamentally sound (and DID get an A.)
The Pakistan embassy also called him up trying to get a copy;
at the time they were lobbying the US government to get some nuclear
reactors for "purely non-military" electrical power generation.
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| 11sci.crypt |
I just about closed this once before. I'm now doing so for real, after
tonight's posting.
| 15soc.religion.christian |
I would like to keep track of X development on:
- A/UX
- ULTRIX
- OpenWindows
Currently I cannot use the newsgroup comp.windows.x
and would like to use the Email based info.
Thanks,
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| 5comp.windows.x |
alee@bmerh794.bnr.ca (Louis Leclerc) writes:
>
> In article <34263@oasys.dt.navy.mil> you write:
> >VA, CT, Wash DC and I think BC Canada where I've heard they actually
> >use Radar detector detectors.
>
> Nope, not in British Columbia. Detectors are legal here in BC, I've even
> got one.
>
> In Alberta and Ontario they're illegal, and detection devices are sometimes
> used. I've heard the police in Ontario prefer a much more direct method of
> detection. Just trigger the radar gun, watch for people slamming on the
> brakes, and search the car.
>
>
> David Lee
> leex@sfu.ca
>
They are illegal here in Manitoba as well though I don't know what
methods are used to detect them.
It has always amazed me with the way the laws work. It is not illegal to
sell them here in Manitoba, only to have them within a vehicle. (Last I
heard, they don't have to be installed to be illegal.)
victor@inqmind.bison.mb.ca
The Inquiring Mind BBS, Winnipeg, Manitoba 204 488-1607
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1993Apr2.204617.14179@mprgate.mpr.ca>, vanderby@mprgate.mpr.ca (David Vanderbyl) writes:
|> dtmedin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com (Dave Medin) writes:
|> >The CRT, in fact, does have an intentional built-in capacitor for
|> >its function just as IC's have built-in transistors, etc.
|>
|> Gee, Mr. Myers, are we going to let this go without a CORRECTION?
Two things:
1. Read your own posts. I was agreeing with Bob. No correction
needed.
2. Don't quote stuff out of context.
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| 12sci.electronics |
Could we plase cease this discussion. I fail to see why people feel the need
to expound upon this issue for days and days on end. These areas are not meant for this type of discussion. If you feel the need to do such things, please
take your thought elsewhere. Thanks.
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: thing. Car Smashers can just go home and sulk. :
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| 7rec.autos |
In article <2017@tecsun1.tec.army.mil> riggs@descartes.etl.army.mil (Bill Riggs) writes:
>The second question is, "What makes Gerry think that the
>Davidians' actions would have been different had another type of warrant
>been in use ?"
Just taking a guess, perhaps it was that Koresh had peaceably been served
with warrants before, and he did not shoot anyone but instead went with the
police without fighting.
--
"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Leftover Turkey!
On the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Turkey Casserole
that she made from Leftover Turkey.
[days 3-4 deleted] ... Flaming Turkey Wings! ...
-- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu/A*gic bait)
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| 19talk.religion.misc |
cyborg@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (-xivo-Alex Ivopol) writes:
>I believe that persistence overcomes even the very best copy protection
>schemes.
I would expect that CD-ROM software would not even need copy protection.
As the program on a CD-ROM would not fit onto a hard-drive, and it is
impossible for the average (and even not-so-average) user to write to a
CD-ROM, copies of the software (that still work) could never be made.
Hmmm.. now that I think about it.. with a creative TSR, maybe
disk-swapping could be used to simulate files on a single disk. You
would need a tonne of disks though.
>--
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>External User - Victoria University of Wellington - New Zealand
>************* I speak for myself and no one else. *************
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INTERNET:ascott@tartarus.uwa.edu.au
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1r6g8fINNe88@ceti.cs.unc.edu>, jge@cs.unc.edu (John Eyles) writes:
>
> A friend has what is apparently a fairly minor case of Crohn's
> disease.
>
> But she can't seem to eat certain foods, such as fresh vegetables,
> without discomfort, and of course she wants to avoid a recurrence.
>
> Her question is: are there any nutritionists who specialize in the
> problems of people with Crohn's disease ?
>
> (I saw the suggestion of lipoxygnase inhibitors like tea and turmeric).
>
> Thanks in advance,
> John Eyles
All your friend really has to do is find a Registered Dietician(RD). While
most work in hospitals and clinics, many major cities will have RD's who
are in "private practice" so to speak. Many physicans will refer their
patients with Crohn's disease to RD's for dietary help. If you can get
your friend's physician to make a referral, medical insurance should pay for
the RD's services just like the services of a physical therapist. The
better medical insurance plans will cover this but even if your friend's
plan doesn't, it would be well worth the cost to get on a good diet to
control the intestinal discomfort and help the intestinal lining heal.
Crohn's disease is an inflammatory disease of the intestinal lining and
lipoxygenase inhibitors may help by decreasing leukotriene formation but
I'm not aware of tea or turmeric containing lipoxygenase inhibitors. For
bad inflammation, steroids are used but for a mild case, the side effects
are not worth the small benefit gained by steroid use. Upjohn is developing
a new lipoxygenase inhibitor that should greatly help deal with
inflammatory diseases but it's not available yet.
Marty B.
| 13sci.med |
Archive-name: space/launchers
Last-modified: $Date: 93/04/01 14:39:11 $
ORBITAL AND PLANETARY LAUNCH SERVICES
The following data comes from _International Reference Guide to Space Launch
Systems_ by Steven J. Isakowitz, 1991 edition.
Notes:
* Unless otherwise specified, LEO and polar paylaods are for a 100 nm
orbit.
* Reliablity data includes launches through Dec, 1990. Reliabity for a
familiy of vehicles includes launches by types no longer built when
applicable
* Prices are in millions of 1990 $US and are subject to change.
* Only operational vehicle families are included. Individual vehicles
which have not yet flown are marked by an asterisk (*) If a vehicle
had first launch after publication of my data, it may still be
marked with an asterisk.
Vehicle | Payload kg (lbs) | Reliability | Price | Launch Site
(nation) | LEO Polar GTO | | | (Lat. & Long.)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ariane 35/40 87.5% Kourou
(ESA) (5.2 N, 52.8 W)
AR40 4,900 3,900 1,900 1/1 $65m
(10,800) (8,580) (4,190)
AR42P 6,100 4,800 2,600 1/1 $67m
(13,400) (10,600) (5,730)
AR44P 6,900 5,500 3,000 0/0 ? $70m
(15,200) (12,100) (6,610)
AR42L 7,400 5,900 3,200 0/0 ? $90m
(16,300) (13,000) (7,050)
AR44LP 8,300 6,600 3,700 6/6 $95m
(18,300) (14,500) (8,160)
AR44L 9,600 7,700 4,200 3/4 $115m
(21,100) (16,900) (9,260)
* AR5 18,000 ??? 6,800 0/0 $105m
(39,600) (15,000)
[300nm]
Atlas 213/245 86.9% Cape Canaveral
(USA) (28.5 N, 81.0W)
Atlas E -- 820 -- 15/17 $45m Vandeberg AFB
(1,800) (34.7 N, 120.6W)
Atlas I 5,580 4,670 2,250 1/1 $70m
(12,300) (10,300) (4,950)
Atlas II 6,395 5,400 2,680 0/0 $75m
(14,100) (11,900) (5,900)
Atlas IIA 6,760 5,715 2,810 0/0 $85m
(14,900) (12,600) (6,200)
* Atlas IIAS 8,390 6,805 3,490 0/0 $115m
(18,500) (15,000) (7,700)
Delta 189/201 94.0% Cape Canaveral
(USA) Vandenberg AFB
Delta 6925 3,900 2,950 1,450 14/14 $45m
(8,780) (6,490) (3,190)
Delta 7925 5,045 3,830 1,820 1/1 $50m
(11,100) (8,420) (2,000)
Energia 2/2 100% Baikonur
(Russia) (45.6 N 63.4 E)
Energia 88,000 80,000 ??? 2/2 $110m
(194,000) (176,000)
H series 22/22 100% Tangeshima
(Japan) (30.2 N 130.6 E)
* H-2 10,500 6,600 4,000 0/0 $110m
(23,000) (14,500) (8,800)
Kosmos 371/377 98.4% Plestek
(Russia) (62.8 N 40.1 E)
Kosmos 1100 - 1350 (2300 - 3000) $??? Kapustin Yar
[400 km orbit ??? inclination] (48.4 N 45.8 E)
Long March 23/25 92.0% Jiquan SLC
(China) (41 N 100 E)
* CZ-1D 720 ??? 200 0/0 $10m Xichang SLC
(1,590) (440) (28 N 102 E)
Taiyuan SLC
CZ-2C 3,200 1,750 1,000 12/12 $20m (41 N 100 E)
(7,040) (3,860) (2,200)
CZ-2E 9,200 ??? 3,370 1/1 $40m
(20,300) (7,430)
* CZ-2E/HO 13,600 ??? 4,500 0/0 $???
(29,900) (9,900)
CZ-3 ??? ??? 1,400 6/7 $33m
(3,100)
* CZ-3A ??? ??? 2,500 0/0 $???m
(5,500)
CZ-4 4,000 ??? 1,100 2/2 $???m
(8,800) (2,430)
Pegasus/Taurus 2/2 100% Peg: B-52/L1011
(USA) Taur: Canaveral
Pegasus 455 365 125 2/2 $10m or Vandenberg
(1,000) (800) (275)
* Taurus 1,450 1,180 375 0/0 $15m
(3,200) (2,600) (830)
Proton 164/187 87.7% Baikonour
(Russia)
Proton 20,000 ??? 5,500 164/187 $35-70m
(44,100) (12,200)
SCOUT 99/113 87.6% Vandenberg AFB
(USA) Wallops FF
SCOUT G-1 270 210 54 13/13 $12m (37.9 N 75.4 W)
(600) (460) (120) San Marco
(2.9 S 40.3 E)
* Enhanced SCOUT 525 372 110 0/0 $15m
(1,160) (820) (240)
Shavit 2/2 100% Palmachim AFB
(Israel) ( ~31 N)
Shavit ??? 160 ??? 2/2 $22m
(350)
Space Shuttle 37/38 97.4% Kennedy Space
(USA) Center
Shuttle/SRB 23,500 ??? 5,900 37/38 $248m (28.5 N 81.0 W)
(51,800) (13,000) [FY88]
* Shuttle/ASRM 27,100 ??? ??? 0/0
(59,800)
SLV 2/6 33.3% SHAR Center
(India) (400km) (900km polar) (13.9 N 80.4 E)
ASLV 150 ??? ??? 0/2 $???m
(330)
* PSLV 3,000 1,000 450 0/0 $???m
(6,600) (2,200) (990)
* GSLV 8,000 ??? 2,500 0/0 $???m
(17,600) (5,500)
Titan 160/172 93.0% Cape Canaveral
(USA) Vandenberg
Titan II ??? 1,905 ??? 2/2 $43m
(4,200)
Titan III 14,515 ??? 5,000 2/3 $140m
(32,000) (11,000)
Titan IV/SRM 17,700 14,100 6,350 3/3 $154m-$227m
(39,000) (31,100) (14,000)
Titan IV/SRMU 21,640 18,600 8,620 0/0 $???m
(47,700) (41,000) (19,000)
Vostok 1358/1401 96.9% Baikonur
(Russia) [650km] Plesetsk
Vostok 4,730 1,840 ??? ?/149 $14m
(10,400) (4,060)
Soyuz 7,000 ??? ??? ?/944 $15m
(15,400)
Molniya 1500kg (3300 lbs) in ?/258 $???M
Highly eliptical orbit
Zenit 12/13 92.3% Baikonur
(Russia)
Zenit 13,740 11,380 4,300 12/13 $65m
(30,300) (25,090) (9,480)
| 14sci.space |
The Bmw speedo is triggered by a reed switch\magnet assembly in the differential. I would think that this signal would be easy to reproduce.
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1993Apr15.225657.17804@rambo.atlanta.dg.com>, wpr@atlanta.dg.com
(Bill Rawlins) writes:
> Since you have referred to the Messiah, I assume you are referring
> to the New Testament. Please detail your complaints or e-mail if
> you don't want to post. First-century Greek is well-known and
> well-understood. Have you considered Josephus, the Jewish Historian,
> who also wrote of Jesus? In addition, the four gospel accounts
> are very much in harmony.
Bill, I find it rather remarkable that you managed to zero in on what is
probably the weakest evidence.
What is probably the most convincing is the anti-Christian literature put out
by the Jewish councils in the second century. There are enormous quantities of
detailed arguments against Christianity, many of the arguments still being used
today. Despite volumes of tracts attacking Christianity, not one denies the
existance of Jesus, only of his activities.
I find this considerably more compelling than Josephus or the harmony of the
gospels (especially considering that Matthew and Luke probably used Mark as a
source).
| __L__
-|- ___ Warren Kurt vonRoeschlaub
| | o | kv07@iastate.edu
|/ `---' Iowa State University
/| ___ Math Department
| |___| 400 Carver Hall
| |___| Ames, IA 50011
J _____
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article <2003@tecsun1.tec.army.mil> riggs@descartes.etl.army.mil (Bill Riggs) writes:
One thing that should be made clear is that neither the FBI nor
the BATF is responsible for what happened yesterday. One can argue about
the initial raid, but it would be worth mentioning, before the facts get
lost, that
1. The Branch Davidians were tipped off that the BATF was coming
during the initial raid.
2. The Branch Davidians opened fire first.
Sigh, I was waiting some some not-so-intelligent person to bring this
up. Look, this is a country of laws. To quote a piece of parchment
that many seem to think is of little importance:
4th Amendment
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures,
shall not be violated; and no warrants shall issue, but upon
probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and
particularly describing the place to be searched and the persons
or things to be seized.
No, a no-knock warrant is in clear violation of the 4th amendment.
Okay, what about the fact that they were tipped off - they shouldn't
have opened fire - right? WRONG! Think about this: I am a drug
dealer and my competition wants to do away with me. They call me and
tell me that the Feds are on their way with a no-knock warrant. So,
being moronic sheep we wait, with our guns holstered. Now, instead of
the Feds, in comes my competition, and we're history. The only
acceptable answer to a no-knock warrant is blazing guns! I may sound
paranoid, but our government is out of control, and killing a few
federal officers make knock some sense back into it.
--
Gerry Roston (gerry@cmu.edu) | I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and
Field Robotics Center, | punishes his creatures, or has a will of
Carnegie Mellon University | the type of which we are conscious in
Pittsburgh, PA, 15213 | ourselves. An individual who should
(412) 268-3856 | survive his physical death is also beyond
| my comprehension,...; such notions are for
The opinions expressed are mine | the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls.
and do not reflect the official | Albert Einstein
position of CMU, FRC, RedZone, |
or any other organization. |
| 18talk.politics.misc |
Some one asked me recently why they when they used XQueryBestCursor to see
if they could create of a given size it seemed to imply they could, but the
server did not create cursors of that size. Investigation showed that some X
servers will happily return any size up to the size of the root window, while
others return some fixed limit of more reasonable size. The interesting thing
to me is that the same server binary acts differently on different hardware -
a Sun4 with a cg2 will claim cursors up to root window size are OK, while a
Sun4 with a cg6 will stop at 32x32. So far I've also seen this behavior on
NCD and Phase-X X terminals and have been told it also occurs on HPs.
Actually, the NCD is even more liberal - sizes much larger then the root
winodw are gladly returned as OK. Is XQueryBestCursor semi-broken or is this
behavior correct? I'd really like to see a 2000x2000 cursor!
--
Richard Neitzel thor@thor.atd.ucar.edu Torren med sitt skjegg
National Center For Atmospheric Research lokkar borni under sole-vegg
Box 3000 Boulder, CO 80307-3000 Gjo'i med sitt shinn
303-497-2057 jagar borni inn.
| 5comp.windows.x |
In article <1993Apr22.052857.9758@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jg003b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Outatime) writes:
>
> I was curious as to what people thought of the VW Corrado VR6?
>That's about it...
>
> Outatime ------>
it hauls butt, handles nice, but is junk. i drove a brand new one for a day
as a loaner. the key was already rusting...seems they stamp their keys out
of pot-metal. all the controls seemed really junk...clutch was heavy.
door locks, power buttons, sunroof controls etc. seemed really cheap.
no way i would pay 24k for this baby. no airbag either. i also drove a svx
for a day...stickered at 30k, but going out the door for 21k...a much better
buy, imo. although it is more of a sports touring coupe...roomy etc.
the corrado is more of a small sports car. the ergonomics and leather in the
svx was twice as nice as the corrado's. both had smooth strong engines.
>
| 7rec.autos |
I am looking for some fast polygon routines (Shaded or Texture
Mapped) in ASM (compile with MASM) or in Turbo Pascal (compile with
TP6). It has to be able to run on a 286, but does not have to look
super fast on a 286, but must look good on a 386.
If anyone has any such code could you please mail it to me. Or tell
me where it can be got.
Thanks in advance.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel Godden #Genius is only one step away
University of Western Sydney,Nepean #from InSaNiTy!
AARNet/Internet:dgodden@st.nepean.usw.edu.au #But me, I am already there!
| 1comp.graphics |
ISSCCK@BYUVM.BITNET (Casper C. Knies) writes:
>
> Gedaliah Friedenberg (friedenb@maple.egr.msu.edu) writes:
>
> #In article <1qvfik$6rf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
> #(John W. Redelfs) writes:
> #|>
> #|> Now that Big Brother has rubbed out one minority religion in Waco, who
> #|> is next? The Mormons or Jews?
> #
> #Give me a break. If the Mormons fortified Utah and armed it to the teeth,
> #and were involved in illegal activity, then they deserve whatever they get.
> # ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
> #You are making a ludicrous suggestion.
>
> As a Latter-day Saint, I found John's statement *not at all* ludicrous...
And as an agnostic who's slightly aware of the Mormon Wars that Casper
describes, I'd side with him on this. Not that I support the Koreshians, nor
do I support the Mormons, but in a nasty sense, the major difference is
this; in 1857, the Mormons kicked the U.S. Army's ass. In 1993, the
Koreshians died in an inferno. Chances are, if things had turned out a
little differently, we might have Koreshians posting to the Net a hundred
years from now talking about some future, analogous event.
Brian "Rev. P-K" Siano revpk@cellar.org
"Well, I'll know right away by the look in her eyes
she's lost all illusions and she's worldly wise, and I know
if I give her a listen, she's what I've been missing, what I've been missing
I'll be lost in love and havin' some fun with my cynical girl
Who's got no use for the real world, I'm looking for a Cynical Girl"
--- Marshall Crenshaw, "Cynical Girl"
| 19talk.religion.misc |
matt@galaxy.nsc.com (Matt Freivald x8043) writes ...
> margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
>>Reduced? Abortion is a lot cheaper than pre-natal care and birth.
>>If you wanted to pay the higher premiums that would result if everyone
>>using their health insurance to pay for an abortion instead elected to
>>carry to term, I'm pretty sure that your insurance carrier would be
>>happy to take your money.
>
>It is always cheaper to kill children than to take responsibility for
>them. Why stop at birth, why not fund infanticide up to age 2?
One can't help wondering just how many children YOU have taken
responsibility for?
Hmmm?
--
Ray Fischer "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth
ray@netcom.com than lies." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
| 19talk.religion.misc |
In article 12934@ac.dal.ca, 06paul@ac.dal.ca () writes:
>
> STANLEY CUP FINALS
>Toronto Maple Leafs vs Montreal Canadiens
> (The Classic Stanley Cup Final matchup!!) <---also a dream come true!
> Montreal wins the Stanley cup in the 7th game 1 - 0 in double overtime.
You know... after I finished laughing I thought: This would be a great
final. Two Canadian teams with lots of tradition and all that Don Cherry
nonsense behind them and a nail-biter finish.
Of course, I would prefer a Vancouver--Montreal final with Vancouver
scoring the final goal....
Pity neither will happen.
steve holland
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <May.11.02.36.59.1993.28108@athos.rutgers.edu> dps@nasa.kodak.com wrote:
> In article 15441@geneva.rutgers.edu, loisc@microsoft.com (Lois Christiansen) writes:
> |>You might visit some congregations of Christians, who happen to be homosexuals,
> |>that are spirit-filled believers, not MCC'rs; before you go lumping us all
> |>together with Troy Perry.
> Gee, I think there are some real criminals (robbers, muderers, drug
> addicts) who appear to be fun loving caring people too. So what's
> your point? Is it OK. just because the people are nice?
I didn't say to visit some "nice" homosexuals. I said "visit some congregations
of Christians..spirit-filled believers.."
Praise the Lord that we are all members of the same body. Let us agree to
disagree.
God Bless You and See you in Heaven
Loisc
| 15soc.religion.christian |
Is anybody using David Rapier's Hebrew Quiz software? And can tell
me how to *space* when typing in the Hebrew? (space bar doesn't work,
for me anyway...) Email please; thanks.
Ken
--
miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
opinions are my own
| 15soc.religion.christian |
mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
>>Perhaps we shouldn't imprision people if we could watch them closely
>>instead. The cost would probably be similar, especially if we just
>>implanted some sort of electronic device.
>Why wait until they commit the crime? Why not implant such devices in
>potential criminals like Communists and atheists?
Sorry, I don't follow your reasoning. You are proposing to punish people
*before* they commit a crime? What justification do you have for this?
keith
| 0alt.atheism |
rubin@cis.ohio-state.edu (Daniel J Rubin) writes:
>How hard would it be to somehow interface them to some of the popular
>Motorola microcontrollers.
Not hard, you can do the refreshing and access cycles by software, but
this hogs most of the available CPU cycles on a low-end controller.
I've seen some application note from Philips that used one of their
8051 derivatives as a printer buffer, with up to 1MB of dynamic ram
that was accessed and refreshed with software bit-banging.
Another alternative would be to use one of those nice DRAM controller
chips that "create static RAM appearance" and all that, but they may
be too expensive to make it worthwhile.
--
Segmented Memory Helps Structure Software
| 12sci.electronics |
"Mom" writes:
>I fear that within the next decade or so the only professional sports team
>left in Pittsburgh will be the Steelers.
Perish the thought...but you know, you may be right, at least as far
as MAJOR LEAGUE professional sports teams go. They all seem to be
becoming BIG MONEY games, much more so than at any previous time. To
think that if I am ever able to move back home several years from now,
all that may be there is an AHL team, at best...SIGH.
The interesting thing is that the NHL is also expanding, at the same
time as it is dramatically increasing the amount of money needed to
operate a team. This would seem to indicate that there's a BIG
shake-out about to occur in the next few years, unless player salaries
can somehow be brought under control. Frankly, I don't see how the
NHL's current drive for expansion is supportable under its current
operating conditions. If revenue sharing AND a salary cap don't come
into the NHL soon, look out.
-Steve
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
The battery goes dead primarily becaust the floor is cold. The temperature
combined with self-discharge promotes sulfation which ruins the plates of
the battery. I strongly suspect that the only reason the battery doesn't
go dead as quickly on a dirt surface is because cement tends to be quite
cooler.
| 12sci.electronics |
Los Angeles Times, Tuesday, April 13, 1993. P. A1.
NEW DETAILS OF EXTENSIVE ADL SPY OPERATION EMERGE
* INQUIRY: Transcripts reveal nearly 40 years of espionage
by a man who infiltrated political groups
By Richard C. Paddock, Times staff writer.
SAN FRANCISCO -- To the outside world, Roy Bullock was a small-time
art dealer who operated from his house in the Castro District. In
reality, he was an undercover spy who picked through garbage and
amassed secret files for the Anti-Defamation League for nearly 40
years.
His code name at the prominent Jewish organization was Cal, and he was
so successful at infiltrating political groups that he was once chosen
to head an Arab-American delegation that visited Rep. Nancy Pelosi
(D-San Francisco) in her Washington, D.C., office.
For a time, Cal tapped into the phone message system of the White
Aryan Resistance to learn of hate crimes. From police sources he
obtained privileged, personal information on at least 1,394 people.
And he met surreptitiously with agents of the South African government
to trade his knowledge for crisp, new $100 bills.
These are among the secrets that Bullock and David Gurvitz, a former
Los Angeles-based operative, divulged in extensive interviews with
police and the FBI in a growing scandal over the nation-wide
intelligence network operated by the Anti-Defamation League.
Officials of the Anti-Defamation League, while denying any improper
activity, have said they will cooperate with the investigation. They
have refused to discuss Bullock and Gurvitz.
Transcripts of the interviews -- among nearly 700 pages of documents
released by San Francisco prosecutors last week -- offer new details
of the private spy operation that authorities allege crossed the line
into illegal territory.
At times, the intelligence activities took on a cloak-and-dagger air
with laundered payments, shredded documents, hotel rendezvous with
foreign agents and code names like "Ironsides" and "Flipper."
On one occasion, Gurvitz recounts, he received a tip that a
pro-Palestinian activist was about to board a plane bound for Haifa,
Israel. Although the Anti-Defamation League publicly denies any ties
to Israel, Gurvitz phoned an Israeli consular official to warn him.
Shortly afterward, another official called Gurvitz back and debriefed
him.
The court papers also added to the mystery of Tom Gerard, a former CIA
agent and San Francisco police officer accused of providing
confidential material from police files to the Anti-Defamation League.
Gerard fled to the Philippines last fall after he was interviewed by
the FBI, but left behind a briefcase in his police locker. Its
contents included passports, driver's licenses and identification
cards in 10 different names; identification cards in his own name for
four American embassies in Central America; and a collection of blank
birth certificates, Army discharge papers and official stationery from
various agencies.
Also in the briefcase were extensive information on death squads, a
black hood, apparently for use in interrogations, and photos of
blindfolded and chained men.
Investigators suspect that Gerard and other police sources gave the
ADL confidential driver's license or vehicle registration information
on a vast number of people, including as many as 4,500 members of one
target group, the Arab-American Anti-Discrimination Committee.
Each case of obtaining such data from a law enforcement officer would
constitute a felony, San Francisco Police Inspector Ron Roth noted in
an affidavit for a search warrant.
The Anti-Defamation League, a self-described Jewish defense and civil
rights organization, acknowledges it has long collected information on
groups that are anti-Semitic, extremist or racist. The ADL's
fact-finding division, headed by Irwinn Suall in New York, enjoys a
reputation for thoroughness and has often shared its information with
police agencies and journalists.
However, evidence seized from Bullock's computer shows he kept files
on at least 950 groups of all political stripes, including the
American Civil Liberties Union, Earth Island Institute, the United
Farm Workers, Jews for Jesus, Mother Jones magazine, the Center for
Investigative Reporting, the Bo Gritz for President Committee, the
Asian Law Caucus and the AIDS activist group ACT UP.
The computer files also included information on several members of
Congress, including Pelosi, House Armed Services Committee Chairman
Ron Dellums (D-Berkeley) and former Republican Rep. Pete McCloskey
from the Bay Area.
In their statements, Bullock and Gurvitz said the Anti-Defamation
League has collected information on political activists in the Los
Angeles area for more than 30 years. They said they worked closely
with three Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies who specialized in
intelligence work, a Los Angeles Police Department anti-terrorism
expert and a San Diego County Sheriff's Department intelligence
officer.
A spokesman for the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department said he knew
nothing of any contact between the deputies and the ADL. The Los
Angeles Police Department, which earlier refused to cooperate with the
investigation, and the San Diego Sheriff's Department declined
comment.
Bullock, 58, is one of the most intriguing characters in the spy
drama. Although he is not Jewish, he began working undercover as a
volunteer for the ADL and the FBI in Indiana in 1954 after reading a
book about a man who infiltrated the Communist Party.
Bullock moved to Los Angeles in 1960 and was given a paid position by
the ADL as an intelligence operative, he told authorities. In the
mid-1970s, he moved to San Francisco and continued his spy operations
up and down the West Coast.
To keep his identity secret, his salary has always been funneled
through Beverly Hills attorney Bruce I. Hochman -- who has never
missed a payment in more than 32 years, Bullock said.
"I was an investigator for the ADL. I investigated any and all
anti-democratic movements," Bullock said. ". . . Officially, I'm only
a contract worker with Bruce Hochman. That way, the league would not
be officially connected with me."
Bullock said he became a master at infiltrating groups from Communists
to Arab-American to gay radicals to skinheads, usually using his own
name but once adopting the alias Elmer Fink.
"I'm one of a kind," he told police.
In recent years, however, his ADL affiliation has increasingly become
known, and at one point he was confronted by a skinhead armed with a
shotgun who threatened to kill him.
In the mid-1980s, he helped San Francisco police solve a bombing at a
synagogue by combing through the trash of extremist Cory Phelps and
matching handwriting with samples on a threatening letter obtained by
police. In part because of this investigation, he became close
friends with Gerard, who at the time was working in the San Francisco
police intelligence division.
Bullock frequently searched through the garbage of target groups. An
FBI report noted how he investigated one Palestinian group:
"Bullock would write reports based on what he found in the trash, and
would share the reports with Gerard. Bullock also gave the trash to
Gerard for Gerard to examine. Gerard would later return the trash to
Bullock."
From a wide range of sources, Bullock compiled files on 9,876
individuals and more than 950 political groups. Gerard, whose files
contained many identical entries, kept files on 7,011 people.
In 1987, Bullock and Gerard began selling some of their vast wealth of
information to the South African government. Bullock tells of
meetings secretly with South African agents at San Francisco hotels
and receiving envelopes filled with thousands of dollars in new $100
bills.
Bullock insists the information he sold consisted of data he culled
only from public sources. Once he rewrote an innocuous item published
by San Francisco Chronicle columnist Herb Caen about South African
Bishop Desmond Tutu and the wife of prominent attorney Melvin Belli --
and submitted it as his own work.
Bullock said it was Gerard who sold official police intelligence.
Bullock said he split about $16,000 from the South African government
evenly with Gerard, telling him at one point, "I may be gay but I'm a
straight arrow."
In his interviews with the police and FBI, Bullock talked freely about
engaging in certain activities that prosecutors say would appear to
violate the law.
For example, Bullock admitted to receiving driver's license records
and criminal histories from Gerard on about 50 people -- a fraction of
the confidential police data found in his computer. And he said
Gerard gave him complete San Francisco Police Department intelligence
files on various Nazi groups that were supposed to be destroyed under
department policy.
Bullock said he also received a confidential FBI report on the Nation
of Islam that he later shredded at the Anti-Defamation League's San
Francisco office.
Bullock seemed proud of his "Operation Eavesdrop," in which he used a
paid informant, code-named Scumbag, to help tap into a White Aryan
Resistance phone message network, listening to the messages left by
members of the right-wing group. "For a short time, it was
wonderful," he told police.
In Los Angeles, ADL operative Gurvitz was hired about four years ago
as a "fact-finder" to keep intelligence files and occasionally go
undercover to the meetings of target groups.
Among other things, he told San Francisco authorities, the Los Angeles
ADL office kept a record of any Arab-American who had "anti-Israel
leanings" or who wrote a letter to a newspaper expressing such
sentiment.
Gurvitz was recently forced to resign after an incident in which he
attempted to misuse the ADL intelligence network to seek revenge on a
rival who got a job Gurvitz wanted at the Simon Wiesenthal Center for
Holocaust Studies. Gurvitz got confidential police data on the rival
and threatened to expose him as a Jewish spy to a right-wing hate
group.
Gurvitz has since begun cooperating with police and the FBI in the
probe, providing considerable information about the ADL operation.
Unlike Bullock, he has been assured he is not a subject of the
investigation.
Gurvitz declined through his father in Los Angeles to be interviewed
by The Times. Bullock's attorney said his client would not comment.
--
Yigal Arens
USC/ISI TV made me do it!
arens@isi.edu
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
I'm looking for information how W-NT uses Proteced Mode. (The HW support)
| 2comp.os.ms-windows.misc |
As of today, April 17, Jack Morris has lost his first three starts.
However, the Jays are doing well without him and injured Dave Stuart.
This is a credit to the rest of the pitching staff.
Has Jack lost a bit of his edge? What is the worst start Jack Morris has had?
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <930404.112127.2h6.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk>, mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes:
|> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
|> > And we, meaning people who drive,
|> > accept the risks of doing so, and contribute tax money to design systems
|> > to minimize those risks.
|>
|> Eh? We already have systems to minimize those risks. It's just that you car
|> drivers don't want to use them.
|>
|> They're called bicycles, trains and buses.
Poor Matthew. A million posters to call "you car drivers" and he
chooses me, a non car owner.
jon.
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <93105.164406U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> Jason Kratz <U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>All very true. I'm going on what I have read and heard from friends.
>Basically the Glock is great but I have heard/read that it is a lot harder to
>learn proper handling because of the type of safety that it has. I was
>looking at a Glock .40S&W and the S&W 4006 a couple of weeks ago and the
>safties on the guns were very different. The saftey on the 4006 seemed a lot
>more "safe" (for lack of a better word) than the one on the Glock. Of course
>this could also be a bad thing if you were to pull the gun on somebody. You
>would spend more time fiddling around turning the safety off. Personally I
>like the Glocks because they are very light and I think they look really cool
>(guess that's why they use them in so many movies) but I wouldn't get one as
>my first semi-auto because of the safety. I would prefer more training with
>a "traditional" semi-auto (ala Colt .45) but of course that's just my opinion.
>
>Jason
At the risk of starting the 'my gun is better than yours' flame
war, I must disagree.
There is no secret in handling a Glock. In fact, it is often
chosen (besides its other merits) because it shoots like a revolver does
basically. It can limit the training time (read budget $$$) due to the
fact there are no 'external' safties other than the trigger, hence less
training time required.
Smith & Wesson (among other types) are chosen due to the fact taht
they do have the external safties (hammer drop,as well as mag drop) which
if properly used have saved many lives when 'Mr. Bad' snatched the gun
from the officer and tried to shoot said officer the gun was on safe and
would not fire. This point had been made in many articles in various
gun magazines. If fact, one author (can't remember who) staged a little
test where he had a revolver and a S&W on safe laying on a table and asked
people with little firearms experience to on his signal, grab the gun and
shoot a target. He timed the people using each gun. The revolver times
were pretty close, but some of the times with the S&W were in minutes, or
the person just gave up because they could not figure out the saftey.
You don't often see Colt 45 autos issued due to the light trigger
which can be accidentally fired in a stress situation, opening the issuing
city,county, etc.. to lawsuits, bad press, etc..
Of course any problem can be overcome with enough training, but
such training is not always available to budget crunched departments. I
know if I were a Cop I would want something like a S&W just for the off
chance of the gun getting taken away. The safety doesn't guarantee that
'Mr. Bad' won't figure it out and shoot me, but it could buy enough time
to draw a second gun and shoot 'Mr. Bad' before it's too late.
Don't think I am too biassed here just because I have had 3 Glocks
in my possession at one time, because I have had a .45 as well. In fact,
it was my first handgun. Remember, the ultimate 'safety' is YOU the
operator, and no safety is going to stop an negligent discharge (note I
don't say accidental) if you break the rules of gun handling.
As per the part of being light weight and looking cool, I agree
100%. I wouldn't rule it out as a first purchase.
-Just my $.02 + tax
------- Steve Syck syck5280@miller.cs.uwm.edu --------
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Richard J Coyle (gomer+@pitt.edu) wrote:
: That's not inner calm. It's boredom, and it's being spoiled. The Arena's
: been as quiet as a church on many nights this year; too many of us just
: take winning for granted. It's been seemingly forever since the team
: lost, and we've forgotten what it's like to feel real excitement and
: surprise at victory.
At least last night there was some excitement. The Pens
didn't have it wrapped up before the game was half over like
the previous two games. I'm not sure if NJ just rose up and
played better or if the Penguins just started to play down
somewhat. Probably it was somewhere in between. New Jersey
seemed much more aggressive last night in the Pens end. They
did much more swarming around, which at least kept an
element of suspense in the game. No question that Billington
helped make it more interesting also. Claude Lemieux didn't
help the cause any though, with his ejection early in the
game. So, who's going to start in the Devils goal for the
"final" game Sunday? ;-) Sorry. I couldn't help myself.
--
_____________________________________________________________________________
Tom Huot
huot@cray.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
In article <1993Apr14.235849.15397@amc.com> richard@amc.com (Richard Wernick) writes:
>The bottom line is the Bruins are the better team this year.
>Montreal fans have been screaming for years that their beloved Canadiens deserve
>another cup. Since the removal of the French Canadien rule, they have been screaming
>foul. Welcome to league parity, something the rest of the league has had for years.
>Even if the Habs do beat Boston in the playoffs, they won't get by the Pens.
>I do agree with you, Boston is the more taleneted team.
>
The French Canadian rule was an extremely short term feature when the
universal draft was instituted in the sixties and only lasted for a
few years...and really didn't have any substantial effect during that
period. The Canadiens Stanley Cup achievements were earned on a
level playing field.
Gerald
| 10rec.sport.hockey |
kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
>>Natural morality may specifically be thought of as a code of ethics that
>>a certain species has developed in order to survive.
>Wait. Are we talking about ethics or morals here?
Is the distinction important?
>>We see this countless
>>times in the animal kingdom, and such a "natural" system is the basis for
>>our own system as well.
>Huh?
Well, our moral system seems to mimic the natural one, in a number of ways.
>>In order for humans to thrive, we seem to need
>>to live in groups,
>Here's your problem. "we *SEEM* to need". What's wrong with the highlighted
>word?
I don't know. What is wrong? Is it possible for humans to survive for
a long time in the wild? Yes, it's possible, but it is difficult. Humans
are a social animal, and that is a cause of our success.
>>and in order for a group to function effectively, it
>>needs some sort of ethical code.
>This statement is not correct.
Isn't it? Why don't you think so?
>>And, by pointing out that a species' conduct serves to propogate itself,
>>I am not trying to give you your tautology, but I am trying to show that
>>such are examples of moral systems with a goal. Propogation of the species
>>is a goal of a natural system of morality.
>So anybody who lives in a monagamous relationship is not moral? After all,
>in order to ensure propogation of the species, every man should impregnate
>as many women as possible.
No. As noted earlier, lack of mating (such as abstinence or homosexuality)
isn't really destructive to the system. It is a worst neutral.
>For that matter, in herds of horses, only the dominate stallion mates. When
>he dies/is killed/whatever, the new dominate stallion is the only one who
>mates. These seems to be a case of your "natural system of morality" trying
>to shoot itself in the figurative foot.
Again, the mating practices are something to be reexamined...
keith
| 0alt.atheism |
In article <1ralibINNc0f@cbl.umd.edu> mike@starburst.umd.edu (Michael F. Santangelo) writes:
>... The only thing
>that scares me is the part about simply strapping 3 SSME's and
>a nosecone on it and "just launching it." I have this vision
>of something going terribly wrong with the launch resulting in the
>complete loss of the new modular space station (not just a peice of
>it as would be the case with staged in-orbit construction).
It doesn't make a whole lot of difference, actually, since they weren't
building spares of the station hardware anyway. (Dumb.) At least this
is only one launch to fail.
--
SVR4 resembles a high-speed collision | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
between SVR3 and SunOS. - Dick Dunn | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
| 14sci.space |
Desiree Bradley (Desiree_Bradley@mindlink.bc.ca) asked us whether we
should think of the Serbs as doing God's work in Bosnia. I've
refrained from posting, in hope that someone who is more familiar with
the OT than I would answer. But at this point I feel I have to say
something.
Many things about this posting bother me. I know of not the slightest
suggestion in the NT that Christians should use force to propagate the
Gospel, and the idea that we should not be concerned about the death
of Moslems violates the heart of the Gospel. Christ died to break
down these distinctions. In him there is neither Jew nor Greek, there
is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female. If
Moslems do not know him, we may preach to them, but we don't kill
them. Furthermore, the attack is between states, not religions.
There are Christians being attacked as well. One of the towns under
attack is one of the few places where Christians and Moslems are
living together peacefully.
The precedents being suggested are from the OT. There are in fact two
different things being alluded to. The first is from the entry into
Canaan. For that to be a parallel, we would need for God to have
promised this land through a prophet. And we would need the war to be
a holy war. There were tight constraints on behavior in those
attacks. Any violations were likely to cause the Israelites to be
defeated. Rape would not have been tolerated. While the accounts in
Joshua emphasize towns that were totally destroyed, note that it was
possible for a town to make peace with the Israelites, and that once
that was done -- even when deception was involved -- they were
expected to honor it. In contrast, there have been many violations of
agreement in this incident. I see no evidence that God has granted
Bosnia to the Serbs as a promised land, and if he had, their behavior
would have disqualified this from being a holy war.
The other OT parallel is from later, when Israel was defeated by
Assyria and Babylonia. The prophets saw this as a judgement on Israel
for her sins. Someone asks whether we shouldn't see this as a
judgement on the Bosnians for their sins. This sounds like a replay
of the old claim that we shouldn't have doctors or hospitals because
illness is God's judgement. Yes, even bad things may be used by God
for good. That includes actions of bad people. But that doesn't
justify them. If you read the prophets, you find them very clear that
in attacking Israel, the Assyrians and Babylonians were acting as
*unintentional* agents of God. Their intent was to attack God's
people, and they would be judged for it. The fact that they were
actually carrying out God's plan didn't excuse their action.
Furthermore, we shouldn't conclude from this that all attacks are
judgements from God. God explicitly interpreted that case, through
his prophets. As far as I know, he did not send any prophets to
Bosnia. While I find it hard to see any good in the current fighting,
I am sure God will eventually make good come out of bad. But that
doesn't justify it, and it won't save the people who are doing it from
judgement.
I am particularly concerned about the implications of this issue
because of current tensions between the West and Moslem-oriented
nations. What we do not need is for Moslems to conclude that
Christians think it's OK to kill Moslems. The implications for the
mid-East, and even relations with American Moslems, could be quite
serious.
| 15soc.religion.christian |
The Phillies were picked to be in first.
Someone replied that the people who picked them were the same people who
picked the Mets last year.
My reply: Yeah, that may be true, but this IS the Phillies.
Fritz
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
In article <1993Apr16.121356.28417@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, bf3833@pyuxe.cc.bellcore.com (feigenbaum,benjamin) writes:
|> I recently read that during Bill Clinton's campaign, he stated
|> that if elected he would immediately recognize Jerusalem as
|> Israel's capital. According to the article, Mr. Clinton
|> reaffirmed this after winning the presidency. However,
|> during recent talks with President Mubarak, Secretary of
|> State Christopher stated that "the status of Jerusalem
|> will be a final matter of discussion between the parties".
|>
|> Now I don't want to start a big discussion over the status
|> of Jerusalem. All I want to know is if anyone can
|> authenticate Mr. Clinton's statements with dates, places, etc.
|>
This would be one of the results of "U.S. backed PEACE!!!!!!" process.
Hamid
|> Thank you.
|>
|> Ben.
| 17talk.politics.mideast |
I got a harddisk shipped with an IDE specification but not the
SCSI spec. Would someone tell me how to set the jumper on
the harddrive? Thanks. Please email response.
Philip Sinn
sinn@carson.u.washington.edu
University of Washington
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
mmoss@ic.sunysb.edu (Matthew D Moss) writes:.........
> In other words, is there some sort of neural network circuit I could build
> after a visit to a local R-Shack?
Marvin Minsky (hi there) writes of building "perceptrons?" in the 1950s using
motor-driven potentiometers to vary the weights. He reported that the circuits
worked even tho there were wiring errors. (Can you say ROBUST?)
Cadium Sulfide cells vary with light. CMOS or TTL gates provide the SIGMOID
somewhat-linear-yet-somewhat-limiter transfer function often used.
Low power Schottky gates, and earlier gates, has about a gain of X8.
LEDs probably output enough light to easily control CdS cells, even at a
few mA. And paper with dark and light regions, controlled by pencil and
eraser, could also control CdS resistance. The very high input resistance of
CMOS gates may let you charge up 1uF paper/mylar caps to serve as memory.
Allen Sullivan
| 12sci.electronics |
In article <1993Apr22.162835.4286@oracle.us.oracle.com>, ebosco@us.oracle.com (Eric Bosco) writes:
> In article <1993Apr22.094851.27323@physchem.ox.ac.uk>
> mark@physchem.ox.ac.uk (Mark Jackson) writes:
> >
> > In article <1993Apr19.195301.27872@oracle.us.oracle.com>,
> ebosco@us.oracle.com (Eric Bosco) writes:
> > >
> >
> > I dont think you can mix the two types of drive, unless you have one of
> the
> > SCSI/IDE cards that is available. You will have to turn your IDE off.
> >
>
> Is this true??? I was under the impression that people on the net had both
> SCSI and IDE working together.
NO! I'm running both at home. Ok, to the cumpter is turned off right now but I
did boot BSD/386 from an IDE drive, most of the system is on a SCSI drive...
I'm using an Adaptec 1542B and a no-name el-cheapo IDE card.
>
>
> >
> > > Well that seems to be all. Is there anythiing I'm forgetting?
> > > Any help is *really* appreciated, I'm lost...
> > >
> > > -Eric
> > >
> > > ebosco@us.oracle.com
> > --
> > Mark
> >
> __________________________________________________________________________
> ____
> > mark@uk.ac.ox.physchem
Guy
--
-- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Guy Dawson - Hoskyns Group Plc.
guyd@hoskyns.co.uk Tel Hoskyns UK - 71 251 2128
guyd@austin.ibm.com Tel IBM Austin USA - 512 838 3377
| 3comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware |
wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>>Compare either to the Porsche 911 and you tell me which was designed
> Oh, right. Only 120,000 dollar cars should be driven fast.
>They drive goddamn Rabbits at 120 MPH in Europe, pal, and I reckon
>a Taurus is at least as capable as a Rabbit.
My whole point was not to say that the cars *couldn't* go that fast,
but that they *shouldn't* go that fast. A family sedan designed to be
operable at 85mph doesn't suddenly become operable at 130mph because
you added some plastic aero effects, slightly wider tires, and a much
larger engine. That's what the SHO is -- a slightly modified family
sedan with a powerful engine. They didn't even bother improving the
*brakes.*
The Mustang is essentially the same deal as the SHO -- a big power
plant stuck in a mid-size sedan, with almost no other modifications.
I have real-life experience with the Mustang -- it handles like a
brick (except when you're invoking oversteer, of course, something I
personally avoid doing on the highway) and stopping power is
inadequate even from 80mph. Lots of accelleration -- but the rest of
the car is not up to par.
I picked the Porsche example because they are designed with speed in
mind. It didn't have to be the 911 -- it could have been the much
cheaper 944 or one of several Mercedes or Audi models. All of these
cars are fairly expensive -- but so are the parts that make them
drivable at high speed. This should be elementary.
There are a few things to keep in mind about Europe, since you brought
it up. My Autobahn knowledge is admittedly second-hand, but I believe
the following to be true:
1. Drivers are much better disciplined in Europe than they are here.
2. The roads comprising the Autobahn are much better designed than
they are here, and usually include animal fences. This makes them
far more predictable than most US highways.
3. Not all of Europe is the Autobahn. Most places in Europe have
speed limits that aren't out-of-line with what we used to have in
the US -- if my friends weren't lying to me they're typically not
much higher than 120km/h.
I strongly suspect you won't find a lot of Rabbit owners doing 120mph
(nearly 200km/h) on the Autobahn, but I could be wrong. Some people
have no respect for their own lives.
>>You certainly haven't convinced me.
> Of course not. "Speeding-is-bad. Speeding-is-illegal.
>I-will-not-speed. I-love-Big-Brother." You had your mind made up
>already.
If you think so you sure don't pay attention to my postings.
jim frost
jimf@centerline.com
| 7rec.autos |
I just started reading this newsgroup and haven't been following the
thread. I'm just curious: How did this thread get started with
"Albert Sabin" and changed into something else? What was it about
Sabin that initiated a religious discussion?
Colin
| 19talk.religion.misc |
Hello,
the subject line says it all: I'm looking for a TGA file viewer for the ATI
Ultra + card. It should support the true color modes, of course.
If someone knows where to find one via FTP, please let me know.
thanx
Oliver Klimek
| 1comp.graphics |
In <donbC5sL24.Ewu@netcom.com> donb@netcom.com writes:
> Anyway, here's how I see the Waco affair; I'd be interested in other peoples'
> interpretations...
>
> 1. Koresh and his people were basically minding their own business.
> 2. Some weapons violations may have been committed and I wouldn't have
> disapproved of prosecuting him for those violations. However, I think
> the BATF was criminal for starting negotiations with a military style
> assault and for firing into a house where there were children and other
> noncombatants.
> 3. I don't see they couldn't just leave a token guard on the place and wait
> the BDs out; I don't approve of the tear gas approach and, if it caused
> the fire to be started, I think the FBI agent responsible should spend
> 10-20 years in jail.
I think the legal term would be "negligent homicide"
> 4. However, if Koresh's response to the tear gas was to kill everyone there,
> I hold him largely responsible for their deaths.
Well, it's nice to see someone with a brain, a general lack of paranoia, and
a willingness to put his thoughts in public. I tend to agree with all you have
said.
"Never assume foul motives when stupidity will do." -- Jim's Corrolary to
Occam's Razor
semper fi,
Jammer Jim Miller
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
________________________________________________________________________________
I don't speak for UH, which is too bad, because they could use the help.
"Become one with the Student Billing System. *BE* the Student Billing System."
"Power finds its way to those who take a stand. Stand up, Ordinary Man."
---Rik Emmet, Gil Moore, Mike Levine: Triumph
| 16talk.politics.guns |
Joe Torre has to be the worst manager in baseball.
For anyone who didn't see Sunday's game,
With a right hander pitching he decides to bench Lankform, a left handed
hitter and play jordan and gilkey, both right handers.
Later, in the ninth inning with the bases loaded and two outs he puts
lankford, a 300 hitter with power in as a pinch runner and uses Luis
Alicea, a 250 hitter with no power as a pinch hitter. What the Hell
is he thinking.
Earlier in the game in an interview about acquiring Mark Whiten he commented
how fortunate the Cardinals were to get Whiten and that Whiten would be a
regular even though this meant that Gilkey would be hurt, But torre said
he liked Gilkey coming off the bench. Gilkey hit over 300 last year,
what does he have to do to start, The guy would be starting on most every
team in the league.
Furthermore, in Sundays game when lankford was thrown out at the plate,
The replay showed Bucky Dent the third base coach looking down the line
and waving lankford home,
I can't take this anymore
brian, a very distressed cardinal fan.
--
Brian Landmann
Georgia Institute of Technology
Internet:gt7469a@prism.gatech.edu
| 9rec.sport.baseball |
This is maybe not a Pet Peeve, but definitely a Playmate Peeve:
In article <C5uxrp.5F8@news2.cis.umn.edu> wfk@lynx.spa.umn.edu (Bill Ketzeback) writes:
|Any lock including the Kyptonite utypes are EASY to break into if the person has
|the proper supplies and/or motivation. 3 minutes and your bike is gone!
|I would be glad to explain but I dont want to contribute to any unlawful
|activities.
Does this make anyone's Skeptic Alarm (tm) go off? No offense, Bill, I
don't mean to say that you're not being straight, but I wonder how you
know about this? Have you actually every used your secret method to break
all the different kinds of bike locks? Or are you taking someone's word
for it?
The fact is, it is unlikely that someone reading anything here is going to
go into a successful bike-stealing business because they read anything in
rec.motorcycles. So please tell us what you are talking about. We can't
even protect against an assault, or discuss methods, if you don't come out
with it.
See, I have heard the ones about the pipes, and the liquid nitrogen, and the
cordless Dremel tools, and a bunch of other ones. The most plausable method
(I am not a bike thief, so I really don't know for certain) is just to put
a rod through each wheel, and use four guys to just lift the bike into a
truck. This works because most people don't lock their bikes TO anything.
Since that method is so childishly easy, I figure a nice, visible chain or
cable locking the bike to something is likely to make a lazy thief go on
to the next bike.
(Hey, finally an advantage to the weight and high CG of the Concours! :-)
|Especially since I have a bike that I would hate to see ripped off
|by such a trival tactic. WARNING NO lock alone is a safe deterent against theft,
|the thief doesnt need to be a locksmith or a lock-picker to walk away with your
|property! I personally think motion alarms in combination to a lock
|of this type is the way to go if in fact you are that concerned.
What tactic are you referring to? If we don't know what you are talking about,
we can't very well guard against it, can we?
For my money (literally) I rely on a combination of a motion-detector alarm
with pager when I'm out of earshot of the bike in a questionable area, C&C
insurance, and I try to park in obvious, visible areas with lots of people
about. (See, if someone just plays with the bike without intention of
stealing it, at least some eyes are on it, and if they get too rambunctious,
they'll set off the alarm.)
That's for a nice bike. For a ratbike, the trick is to always keep its
actual value well below blue-book, so that it looks so crappy nobody would
WANT to steal it, and even if they were stupid enough to, you would make
a profit on the deal. :-)
Seriously, if I (for instance) need to go on a business trip for a week,
and (sadly) have to leave the bikes sitting, they both get a shitty-looking,
but useable cover, locked on, and both bikes locked to each other and a
curb bumper in the parking lot under the light. I usually rig the cable
locks I use (aircraft cable) so that if anyone pulls on either bike or
the cable joining them, the Concours alarm goes off. And I have a friend
come buy every day to have a look and make sure they're still there. The
only thing I have ever had stolen was a $60 cover, and that was over
winter storage, with the battery out of the bike (and thus no alarm).
Oh, put your own eyelets into the cover for the locks to pass through, and
place them so that they have to absolutely destroy the cover to get it off.
That's the best that I can think of. Most of the locks I see people put
on bikes look, well, not too mechanically sound. I like ABUS, since I have
personally removed Master locks from lockers with my boot.
Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com) | "I'm getting tired of
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!) | beating you up, Dave.
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!) | You never learn."
AMA 583905 DoD #0330 COG 939 (Chicago) | -- Beth "Bruiser" Dixon
| 8rec.motorcycles |
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