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No, not really, they were pretty much thugs, they weren't scared very much, you know Well, that's good, well, they're Brooklyn boys, I guess. Yeah You don't expect them to be, uh, much of anything but thugs. Really. Yeah, I, I was, I was also born in Brooklyn, so I can call myself a Brooklyn thug, although I'm really n...
I pretty much pull for the Rangers though. They're, uh, they're, they're they, they have, I think they have the best facilities in the major leagues. Yeah. I love going to watch a game in Arlington stadium. It's great. Well, that, that's actually, I think I make something, because I think, and, and, and in as much as s...
and they're going to build a new stadium in Arlington, as a matter of fact, not even in Dallas, Oh, that's great. So, So that's, that's something that we're looking forward to. Yeah, that'll be nice, I mean, that, that, I think, tends to keep, I think stadiums work tend to keep people happy. Oh, case in point, Toronto....
I mean, the, the best I've been up here so far, you know, up, in up state New York is, uh, is, um, Rochester Red Wings game. Uh-huh. Now is Rochester, where, where is Cornell University. Oh, Cornell is in Ithaca. Ithaca. Uh, yeah, so Cornell is about, um, somewhere, uh, about two and a half hours south of, south and ea...
Oh, really, I I hadn't actually known that. Yeah. Well, um, but we have our own, um, our own triple A team here Yeah. the Redwings, which are they're a farm team for the Orioles. Yeah, okay. Yeah. So everybody hopes that, uh, they go all the way around here. There's the, they're the big team in Rochester. Those games a...
Uh-huh, uh-huh. um, especially, you know, I'll make a day game or something. Yeah. But they really seem to, uh, people really get into it. I mean, I can't, I, I, again, I can't make any predictions about them, Yeah, we used to like watching, my, my folks lived down in Beaumont, and, uh, on the campus of Lamar Universit...
Yeah. Yeah, but um. So as far as the major league teams, I don't know, the Rangers have been, you know, every year they always knock on the door early, and then just go into their skid about, you know, the end of June. But they, they've got so much young, raw talent, it's just amazing, and then they just haven't been a...
and they're almost starting to age a little bit here, I just, um. Yeah, yeah, they, they really hurting pitching wise. I mean, they've got Ryan, but, you know, who knows what he'll be able to do. He's been, last year he started having some nagging injuries, and but, it'll, it'll be interesting to watch. Right, but. I h...
but it takes about two hours, two and a half hours to get there. Yeah, well it takes me a good seven hours to get to Shay Stadium. So, I don't know. That's probably because of the roads. You just don't have, we, we've just got a freeway. We just get right on the freeway and just go north. Yeah, well, actually, we can, ...
We are substantially north of New York enough that, uh we don't get to go play too often. Yeah. you're, you're like a boat ride from, how far is it across the lake to Canada? Toronto. Toronto? Oh Toronto's only about two hours, yeah. Yeah. Toronto, I mean, I want to go see. Do, do you drive there, or do you take the fe...
Yeah, um, I, I really love, I think that's one of the most, uh, enjoyable things about being up here. I'm only up here for school. Uh-huh. So, and then, I mean, you go back to New York after school? Uh, no, probably south, maybe Texas Oh, really. Some place south, and warm, I don't, I'm not a big, uh, I'm not a big, uh...
Oh, that's great. You know, about that same time branches were falling off everywhere, and we were actually in a state of emergency for two weeks. Golly. Because of the ice? Because it, didn't make the national news too much, which I find really weird Um. but, um, we were, I mean, um, you know, all schools were closed ...
well is your, does your city have mandatory, uh, recycling? No, we don't have mandatory. We, actually, we're kind of slow up here, and we've just started doing recycling probably last summer. And it's all voluntary. So that's interesting. Cities have a mandatory recycling? Um, there, there're some places that are stron...
the problem in Texas is that, uh, they've got so much paper now from people recycling that they've got no way to, uh, reprocess it. Oh, my, It requires an it requires essentially a paper mill to recycle it, and so the value has gone down. It turns out it wasn't worth for the church to do. Oh, I didn't realize, you woul...
and then there's places that will buy metal and they still buy aluminum can and likes that. *can cans ? likes like? Do you have to buy metal, like copper is a very good one to collect. Even aluminum, yeah, so. Well, do you do, do you do recycling? Uh, we do the recycling, and our city will pick up our recyclables. Oh. ...
Yes, but we have a bottle return. A lot of the northern states and a lot of the Eastern states have bottles. We've had five cent deposits on our bottles for years. Oh, so it's worth taking them back. Well, see, we don't have. We have, we have most of our soft drinks are in plastic liter or two liter bottles. Oh, they s...
Every time you recycle, that's one less tree my mother can sell, and, uh. So, it's a question should I be diligent and, um, and, and recycle, and put my mother out of her livelihood. And recycle. Oh, yes, I see that. But, it's an interesting point, though, that, you know, everybody's so anxious to recycle, and I suppos...
I just have can cat food. I don't want to clean the can and take the label off it, and put it in a separate bin. Yeah. You know, I'd just rather get rid of that thing and throw it in the trash. Well, that's what we've got. We started about, New Year's we decided we'd get ambitious. Well, we took one load over there, an...
Like I say, it's a lot of different type paper and cardboard. I'm not a real plastic person user, but a lot of paper, um, pretty much, and I don't know how they sort that. But if, if I used a lot of can goods and I do use a lot of laundry detergent and a lot of plastic bottles, I would think that I I would have a recyc...
and they gave us a list of things that aren't and it turns out it's not so bad. I, I get a lot of reports that, that are covered in plastic or like saran wrap or something, anyway, and then, uh, cardboard, there's a few, it's interesting that we're, we're recycling computer type paper. Yeah. And, and, uh, one day they'...
but if it's got soda in it, it does. So, it's a strange. That's an interesting distinction. Yeah, they should, they should clean, clear that up. It wouldn't take them much to put a stamp on the, uh, juice cans as easily as the soda. Yeah. So, but redemption centers are a big thing up here, they get a penny a can they h...
well, here you can't drink, We're not civilized now, you can no longer, you cannot drink beer and drive, but but it was, it was actually legal. Well. Yes, well, I know, I was in Atlanta, and you could walk out the bar with your drink in your hand. But here, Let me put that in a paper cup for you. So that was strange. B...
Uh-huh and I love to walk, so if I have a lunch hour with nice weather I get out and, and walk. What about you? Well, um, I, uh, exercise regularly. I work at a university, and I swim almost every day upwards of a mile, Uh, very good. but Washington is one of my favorite places to visit. Uh, my daughter lives in Arling...
And so, but that somehow takes, organization. For me, it's much easier just the stationary bike, you know, it's at home, I can, I can do some of my reading, Right. Um, but, Do you live in the District? No, I live in Maryland. Because I think there're so many parts of the District where it's not very safe to get out and...
and, uh, and most of the time I enjoy it. Sometimes I don't, but I feel that, uh, that the discipline it affords me when I do it when I don't want to is also worth something. Uh-huh, right. I think pretty much you summed up my, my, my motivations also. And I often find that even when I don't feel that much like exercis...
We don't have facilities for swimming in winter, but, um, and, and that's true, when I go home from work at the end of the day, if I go up for an hour in the pool, I'm much, much more awake, I'm ready to work in the garden or whatever in the evening. Yeah, yeah. So. So, can I just ask you, are you Canadian? No, I'm not...
and at that point that was sort of the limit but since then I've been abroad a lot, Huh. I see. I know this isn't on our topic, but where did you grow up in California? In Santa Barbara. Oh, okay, because I grew up in North Hollywood, California went to U C L A and all that. Oh, I see. Uh-huh. Well, very good, I think ...
And, um, her son, which is my father is also elderly, and this is one of the reasons why she had to go to the nursing home, is that she was literally driving him nuts in his later years. Now my father's almost eighty. My grandmother's almost ninety-seven. Jeez. So, um, it's strange, because it, it so, hit so close to h...
and, uh, I used to live down in Dallas, there was just so many stories about, uh, rest homes where the people are being abused, where the people are being kept in filthy conditions. In fact, here in Baltimore they've actually shut a couple of them down and taken all the people out of them because they were so, uh, bug ...
Um, this one is more or less for someone who's poor and can't go there, and my father's, is, he's no by no means wealthy, but he's quite well off. Uh-huh. And he could easily have put her into a nicer, um, home, but up here there's waiting lists. And that was the first one that opened. And I suggested to him, Why don't...
There were roaches even in her alarm clock. Um, Oh, that's terrible. Yes, it was absolutely horrible. They took her immediately out of there, and they just threw everything away that, that she had from there. I mean, they wouldn't even take the, uh, the, uh, the dresser that she had that was her own dresser, because it...
Prior to that I was told that she was dead, and, um, apparently what had happened was that I had a grandfather who, um, put her into a mental institution. Oh, that does happen. Yeah. And, uh, you know, it was a real hush-hush thing Yeah. and then, I was wondering why my mother always referred to, you know, his second w...
I mean, she cries every day. This has been over a year, and she tries to make me feel really guilty. But I have to, you know, I have to put my foot down, where, where my life begins. I mean, if that was my mother, I would really feel a lot more responsible. I would probably take care of my mother. I don't really, um, w...
and he always replaces them. You know, I've had like, over the past thirty years I've had, you know, about seven or eight different dogs all the time. And it's like, you know, it's oops, Dad's got these two and the old dies and the young one goes for a while, and he gets another one. So I can't see him without his anim...
Yeah. It's really, it's a bad thing, but when they go into the homes they lose weight, and, because of the institutional food, you know. I think it's fine, but, you know, my taste buds are pretty, uh, flexible, and here they are, they're always used to these old fashioned foods. They're very set in their ways and used ...
Well, that's what I'm telling my father now. He needs a new floor in his bathroom, so you can get in and out ... Okay, what kind of books do you like to read, for enjoyment? Uh, mainly, the, the books I read are, uh, business related, or self improvement. Uh-huh Um, I've got a, a, uh, small company on the side that I, ...
so I can get a deal from the, uh, from the from the supplier, Well, that's interesting. and then I distributed them and then I I get, I can sell them at a cheaper price. Plus I've got a, uh, drinking water system business that I've had on the side for years that I've done. A what? A drinking water business, uh, yeah Oh...
Uh-huh. but I always get books like, um, I like to quilt, well I'm not into quilting but I check a lot of books out to learn how. I just haven't done it yet because it seems to monstrous to do with a book, but I like to, um, can and do food preservation, and mostly canning just for fun to go pick the things and just to...
I don't read the Bible as much as I should but but I think I would always think that no matter what I did so, but I do enjoy reading that and, so pretty much we have different interests, I think, in reading, like a but, and I have a neighbor with a big motorbike Sounds like it. and he likes to run down the street with ...
Oh, ten years younger, oh, that's funny. And, uh, uh, the problem that I've had in the past with, uh, my children growing up and moving out of the house and, and still having three left at home, out of the five, Uh-huh. um, I've tried to devote more time to them and trying to get them interested in, in reading more and...
but, anyway, I did read one chapter of that There's a, uh, a couple called, um, oh, Uh-huh. um, and, uh, there's a book called LIFE EXTENSIONS, I don't know if you've ever heard of it, No, I haven't. Okay. It's a book called LIFE EXTENSIONS. There's also a book called THE LIFE EXTENSION COMPANION, Uh-huh. Uh, Dirk Pear...
LIFE EXTENSIONS? Uh, yeah, he's probably about forty years old now, Uh-huh. I saw him probably seven years ago, on Johnny Carson show Uh-huh. Oh, really? and, uh, I was pretty impressed. He had a, he, before he started out on his experiments he had a battery of tests done on his body to determine the age of each one of...
Uh-huh. I mean, she's, you know, she appeared to me to be very petite and um, she took a horse shoe and, and turned it, turned it into an S, Oh, really? and, uh, it was all from taking the right vitamins and things that, that give you the strength, and, of course, doing Isometric exercises, uh, together they both exerc...
I like to, I like to, my, I like to be able to eat really healthy, Uh-huh. you know, I think Jesus is the only one that can make this earth be restored to what it should be, but, uh, in the meantime we pray over our food because I'm always looking down my plate and I think man this stuff was probably grown in who knows...
and then I just chunk off like water off your back, some of it, and, you know, and try and do what's, what I can do out of it that's practical, Yeah, there's, I've, I've read a lot of things, um, since I got involved in the water business back in eighty-three, Uh-huh um, and it's amazing that the, the legislation they ...
they've proven that. Um, yet their saying well we're putting such low doses in there, that, well, you don't have to worry about dying from it. Uh-huh The problem is that I've, that I've read books that, uh, have proven that there is a link between the ingestation of chlorine and arteriosclerosis, which is heart attack,...
I know people have read all those books but, the, um, they they drilled a well, I don't know how many feet but it's three or four times deeper than it needed to be, Uh-huh. and so their water comes out, they live in Grand Prairie, but it's, they live kind of in a, the planes go right over from D F W, so it's not real d...
well the ground will naturally filter out the of ... Uh, what kind of house do you live in? Uh, we live in a one story, just like a style home, you know, the standard Texas, uh, Fox and Jacobs. Oh, yeah. With, with a yard and fence. How about you guys? Are you in a apartment or a home? I'm in an apartment in, uh, Plano...
and it's, What's a, what's a one bedroom, are you in a, um Yeah, well, Plano, most, most complexes in Plano are pretty nice, so you're probably in a, you know, Well, they vary, from place to place, it's hard to tell, you know, how well they've been kept up how old they are, Uh-huh. and these are probably, oh, one of th...
seems like in the last six months we, um, got lucky and we refinanced, and it, but it was like eight hundred and something, but it went down to like seven hundred and twenty Yeah. so that's really not, I have friends that pay about nine hundred dollars for a town house in, Wow, that's a lot for a townhouse. yeah, in, a...
but, uh there's no investment in it, you know all it allows you to do is itemize, on your on your taxes yeah, Yeah. Yeah, that's true, you just take off your mortgage interest and that's about it, that's really about it, it's, uh, have you ever owned your own home, Yeah, I've owned, uh, several, built several, So you k...
suburban tract, yeah, we, uh, we lived out of state for a while and came back and, uh, we lived in a smaller city, and now we say, Gee, Dallas really is big and polluted Isn't it. I can remember, I've only been here eight years, but I can remember coming to work from, I used to live in Wylie Uh-huh. and I could see dow...
have you ever been to Houston? Oh, yeah. You know, um, I used to think that Dallas was better than Houston because their zoning for where you can put a house next to a, Yeah, now it looks just like Houston to me. Yeah, it does. How long have you been in this house? We've been in here ten years. Ten years. Yeah, so we'v...
My home town. how were the house prices up there? The prices, actually, a lot better, because Pittsburgh is about the size, I've been trying to think, like a Louisville, or Minneapolis, that type of size. Yeah. And the prices, what you get here for about a hundred thousand you could get there for about seventy-five, ei...
Yeah. and a lot of the people that came from that area, probably like what you're talking about, they had no, um, they had a lot of property but not a lot of house, and now they have a lot of house and hardly any yardage around it That's a fact, but, but they love it. I mean, they, they, they think they're getting, you...
I lived, grew up in southern Oklahoma Uh-huh. and, uh, people across the street had a cellar, and we never did, and it's just like Dallas area, it was tornado alley up there, and every spring mom would drag me up at three o'clock, four o'clock in the morning and pajamas and teddy bear across the street, and we'd go int...
you know, I mean, You ever thought about building a house? Pardon me? Have you ever thought about building a house? Yeah, actually when we were up north, um, but some family things changed so we ended up come back down here, and all that, because it helped my husband's work, but, um, we really would like to, but we don...
Do you work? Pardon me? Do you work? Yes, I do. Well, how do you handle, do you have kids? No, we don't. So you got, he's working and working to get this big house to take care of, how do you manage both of those? Uh, how do we take care of the house. Well, I don't have a I don't, shouldn't say that, I don't have an et...
and she's got a, uh, a live out nanny. Um, but any rate, I don't have any of that, um, I don't know, it's really not too difficult with no children and just two people, you know. You basically can take care of everything yourself, We have a, Yeah, we have a dog, and we're pretty, I mean, we're not fanatically neat, but...
Uh, we pretty much hire, we subcontract mostly everything I mean other than anything that's not a, um, Yeah. I mean, I know how to fix a running toilet Oh, yeah. he does what he needs to, but mostly if it's something major, um, you know, cleaning out the air conditioning ducts or something like that, we just hire out t...
and I also think that once you get to be, um, you know, certain, when you get to be thirty something and thirty something gets to be a little bit older you start, um, Yeah. the dollar value on things I, You bet. you know, I think people that own homes a lot in North Dallas are very materialistic. Oh, you bet. I know I'...
right, exactly, so, well was it hard to adjust living in an apartment after being in a house. Oh, yeah, because you're uh, confined by space, you know, I had a, I came out of a thirty-one hundred square foot two story house. Oh, my goodness yeah. And I had room for everything, in fact I had more room than knew what to ...
Uh-huh. it's not as bad as I remembered, especially going to college and living in apartments there, you know how noisy that can be. Yes, I do. Uh, there seems to be more a mature crowd in, uh, apartments, at least where I am, uh, even though, you know, there's kids all around and there's, there's traffic and there's p...
Relax and try to go to sleep, really, yeah. You see a lot of activity outside, people riding bikes, playing ball, or jogging or they're doing this and that, and they, they're trying to, to unwind. I think Plano in general is getting a little more, well it's gotten so big it's almost a town in it's own right. Oh, yeah, ...
but you really, it's just real, nowadays, with the way the income tax, I think housing is strictly to itemize. Oh, you bet, and the thing that, that gets me is, uh, you never really catch up, you never really finish doing things, and, uh you're always paying for something. Yeah, exactly, we, Yeah, and even, you know, I...
Well, you're, you're able to, you're able to, uh, vote and go to war and things like that so, Yeah, definitely able to go to war twenty years ago but not vote. Oh, that's right, that's one of the changes Not vote. That was one of the changes that came about in the last twenty years. Um, yeah, twenty years ago is ninete...
uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh, the problem was that my hair was too long. Uh-huh. and, uh, you weren't allowed to have a, uh, mustache or a beard, if you wanted to get ahead with the company, Uh-huh, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. well if you were a, uh, black female you were destined to be store manager in six to nine months, i...
I, I, I, I stopped working for them in, uh, seventy-eight, seventy-nine. Uh-huh. And, uh, it's, I think they're, they're like all companies, well represented. Uh-huh. And, uh, you know, everything seems to be fine. Uh-huh. I, I've kind of lost touch with the company, we had a falling out, Uh-huh, uh-huh. but, uh, as fa...
uh-huh. Um, Yeah, I'm not sure if that was because, you know, eighties was like the, uh, the me decade. The me decade. Uh-huh. And, uh, everybody was into me, and then we are getting back into us. But, um, it, it, it's I've seen, uh, uh, a great deal of change as far as, um, corporate responsibility and things, um, Uh-...
Um, I've noticed, uh, a certain increase, um, pessimism with America no longer being sort of on top. I had the impression, well, I mean, there was the quote, unquote losing of the Vietnam war, which was a blow, and it was right around that time when I started becoming socially, you know, a socially conscious adult. And...
and, uh, so I see, I see a lot of, uh, a lot of pessimism growing, um, and at the same time I think there's, there's, there's a growing environmentalist movement and sense of corporate increased corporate responsible towards, uh, you know, environmental safety and things like that. And that might potentially be sort of...
yeah And the problem is that ideally you they, you know, the world would like you to be completely indifferent. So, um, but I, I, I understand what you say about the environmental movement, um, it's, it's been a long time coming, Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. And I, I just, I've seen a lot of changes, I mean, from the original e...
And that's a real change, except it sort of, brings back to the nineteen forties more than anything else Yeah, like, I mean, all this recycling used to be in tact, *typo in tact should be 'intact' or not all of it, Yeah. but much of it did. I mean, recycling was a, was a wartime thing. And then they turned around and c...
when I was down in Dallas for two years, I had, uh, my children come home from school with papers that were corrected by the teacher that had words spelled correctly marked wrong, and words spelled wrong not marked as such. Uh-huh. Yeah. And this person's teaching my children? Uh-huh. You know, I had a real problem wit...
but they're trying to get a, uh, a, uh, a merit system here in Maryland rather than a, uh, tenure system, Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah, so, uh, what are your favorite T V shows? One that I can't find anymore which is GABRIEL'S FIRE. Oh, I haven't watched that very much, is that, do you like that? Yes. When was that on? It was ...
and then they moved, um, no, GABRIEL'S FIRE was on C B S, I think, I, I take that back. I'm not sure, but anyway they moved it back and forth and that's when PEAKS was back in that time slot as well. So, I don't know. You don't know what happened to GABRIEL'S FIRE then? No, I have no idea. I don't think, I don't think ...
it's really bad. Yeah, there's some new shows that I sort of like, um, have you seen this SHANNON FIELD SHOW or, uh, it's about a lawyer, it's one of these lawyer shows, you know, they seem to be popular these days. And there's a lot of those Blair shows floating around. Oh, is he the reformed, um, gambler? Yeah. Yes, ...
or, I really don't watch that much T V, what I do is I tape the programs I want to watch, and then on the nights I can watch, I'll pick out something. That, that makes logic , But, um, also saves a lot of time with commercials. you're not kidding. Do you ever watch AMERICAN GLADIATORS? Oh, I have. I've, I've, I watched...
Yeah. I tape it. But I understand, uh, that in England, they play it at normal times because they don't consider that violent, and the reason they have it on here so late is because they consider it a violent program. Really? I, And, I'm like, I don't believe this. That don't, it , it, it seems like, I mean, if wrestli...
Oh. Where are you? I'm in Dallas, Texas. You're, uh, everybody I speak to is in Texas, oh, oh, yeah, but I'm, I'm in New York and, uh, we seem, we seem to have, um, I think the AMERICAN GLADIATORS is on Sunday afternoons actually around here as well, sometimes. Oh, really? I think it's been on, I think I've seen it dur...
and competition. I'm going oh, great, you know, it's a, it's a great role model for everybody. I think so, I think because people sort of get through, you know, um, I think that people sort of learn the importance of sort of physical fitness as well as the, as well as, you know, some mental fitness and I think that peo...
trying to think of, I think it's in four places around the United States. They hold competition and the only requirement is, of course, your skill of passing these tests, Oh, that's how they do it. and that's it. And we had a bar man from here in Dallas area that made it. Really? There is a woman that, uh, made, well, ...
I mean, I thought they were just poor people like us I guess not, that's great. Huh-uh. But, maybe I'll try it one day. I'll get on there one day and see if I can, uh, um, what, what do they win, they, they win money I think, don't they? I think the last I heard was it's up to about a hundred fifty thousand dollars. Re...
Oh, well, they, they come out with a lot of bruises too. They look like, Yeah, they seem like a tennis ball but it almost doesn't look like it's almost livable yeah, the best I, I don't think I could, I, I could handle those tennis balls. So, what else to you tape besides AMERICAN at, there anything else? Hey, Huh? see...
But, I'm sure that's fun. Um, most of the lawyer programs like, uh, LAW AND ORDER, they're not on the times that I've got, that I've watched because I haven't had T got, T V GUIDE around here in ages. Uh-huh. Oh, okay, well, they seem to be on later, Yeah. all, always right, right before the news is when I catch them. ...
actually it, ours is on at eleven it, it's, um, eleven o'clock now here or eleven twenty-five now here in New York. Um, I think they they do that, I think they put things on at, um, eleven o'clock here and I think they put it like eleven o'clock, um, California time, like in California but in the middle they sort of, u...
but do they have like, um, do like sort of all the regular sitcoms and so forth, start at seven o'clock? You, so, like, you know, the regular television shows that are, that are very popular, do they start at, seven or, or at eight? I'm trying to think. Both, um, let's see they start, um, EVENING SHADE at seven and the...
Huh. and ours start at, at, at, at eight and end at eleven, that's why we . I, I would actually like it better if everything started at seven and ended at ten. Yeah, it's, it's stopped around here at ten and it goes into night programs, at that point which could be one of, you know, many different night programs but it...
And then they've just got different barrels setting out , I shouldn't say barrels, like big John Doors or, whatever they're, called. Gondolas Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Um, they've got them set outside and, Is it, is it all voluntary? uh, Yes. It's all voluntary. Now, they do have some places where you can take things and g...
Right. Yeah. But, uh, There's, a lot of projects where the, the Boy Scouts and things, and that will, collect your cans Right. Right. Yeah. That's true, but, but that's really the, the biggest thing around here is the grocery stores participating. Uh-huh. You know but, I guess, I, you see, I guess it depends on your l...
uh, Yeah. Oh, wow. Uh, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and New York are some of the, uh, they're using their landfills up faster than they can get new ones. Yeah. So, it's really, uh, it's, uh, really hard on them. Now, up here in Maryland, though, we're just in a voluntary recycling stage right now. So, uh, so my wife and I, you ...
Is it all, um, is there any place at all where you do get cash for this stuff or is it all, Mostly just the cans. Okay. And I, Yeah. And that's, and most of the time, like I said, that's, that's a sort of like fund raiser things that, the schools do, or that the Boy Scouts do, or whatever. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Tha...
Uh-huh. Yeah, I think that's mostly, well, you know, we, even before, as soon as the community said, you know, We're going to put up bins for recycling, you know, we automatically started, doing it. It was, it's one of those things, Right. you know, and just going and taking the time to go and read the signs and the br...
Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. You know, and they, I mean it's tremendous how much money they have saved and even saving all these trees and, you know it's really, Right. I can't believe that you know. Because they've got it all posted all over the place how much, they're saving and how Yeah. How much, how well they're doing. ye...
Yeah. Right. Yep. You don't notice until, you start leaving, you know, they don't pick up your recycling until it's full you just can't believe how much paper that you, uh, Right. I know Reams of paper come, out of an office every day That , took us to recycle. Well, you think about, the waste, even. Uh-huh. I mean, ...
Yeah. but, I haven't really seen anything advertise publicly. Uh-huh. And then, like I said, they do a lot of internal, advertising on that kind of stuff. Internal. Uh-huh. But, I haven't seen anything. Yeah. But see, I don't see a lot of T I advertisements on T V anyway. I think they advertise more, um, other places ...
And here, those of us that Dumavra Power, which is our power company, that, Uh-huh. we now recycle forty-five percent of our solid waste, Right and they, and that, we do this for the community, they put those on. So I, so I think, you know, we're probably reaching a successful stage and, and just with voluntary, I thin...
Right. Yeah. We weren't, concerned. You know, and it's like, Yeah. That's true. You know, it's like all of a sudden when there's noticeable things, saying, Hey, you know, we're ruining the earth, Huh. you know. And now everybody is doing something about, which is good. Uh-huh. But how come we weren't doing this, say,...
you know, and no other state, I'm sure Texas probably still has some landfill space. They're not going to voluntarily say, Hey, ship your garbage here. Right Yeah. That's true. It's really, tough. I think, that it, it really surprises me because of the cost savings. I mean, this is such a tremendous, amount of cost sav...
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Oh. and also, it it produces a, a waste, a, um, a, liquid waste that they don't know what to do with yet. they still have cost, yeah, cost efficient, yet. Oh. I see, okay. Is not real cost efficient. Oh, okay, okay. Oh, Yeah. I, understand that though. So, but others, you know, like tin cans and plasti...