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we went to a farm and saw pheasants and turkeys. but I don't know if he he doesn't know how to identify all of these. yes yeah. I can't wait to take him to the zoo this summer again. it's been a while since we've been. [toys rustling] yeah. maybe not when it's ninety six... maybe not when it's ninety six degrees exactly. [toys rustling] xxx feeling. so you say he has some animals? he has um xxx he has some stuffed animals. and he has um he loves Richard Scary books. so we go to the zoo page. you know. and he points to the animals... um. turn it over. turn it upside down. yeah and I mean he has he has a horse and a cult. and a cow and a calf. and a pig and a dog. yeah so some of these exact same kind of animals. the same brand... boy they are nice. yeah. is there anything that he really loves to play at home that we really didn't see today? he loves legos. he loves to play with legos. it's the xxx. the xxx blocks.
my xxx blocks I guess... and um he plays with the kitchen. and... he's an accomplished block builder. yes he loves to play with you know blocks. but he has a younger brother. so he plays with his younger brother all day long. so it's his older brother is interested in legos. [laughing] you know. and they play outside in the sandbox also. a lot. and making... xxx! xxx he making oatmeal? probably oatmeal yeah. we have oatmeal in the morning a lot. he likes oatmeal right? [toys rustling] yeah. [toys rustling] xxx? um [toys rustling] xxx flat. is there anything else you've noticed like recently... about? two year old play? what he likes to play. um well he um I mean um his really his favorite thing to do is to be outside. playing in the mulch or the dirt or the sandbox. that's what he would and he would play there with his trucks. or making oatmeal. or making things. [toys rustling] what do you like to play with in the mulch or the sandbox?
daddy says no more mulch right? but you play in the sandbox! what do you do in the sandbox? [toys rustling]. play with your brothers in the sandbox? oh. mm hm. he loves um construction trucks. he loves construction sites. he loves planes. [toys rustling] building trucks. so actually yeah that's true they didn't have a lot of them. no... trucks... but I didn't think about it cause it's not like. you know he plays with other stuff too. um I'm not always good for language... so I get a lot of vroom vroom... sure xxx that's right vroom vroom. exactly. [laughing]. it's true. right yeah what you're looking for. and then we don't always get what we xxx from them. [toys rustling] yeah that makes sense. do you wanna show him the book? just hand it to him see if he'll turn pages. [toys rustling] yyy. hey what's this? I think that is about it.
I um I missed two tests. okay. I'm like three items shy of this kind of visual is this the same or different test. okay uhhuh. and um... do you wanna try it now? I mean after that okay. I might yeah. he's actually been diverted. [toys rustling] he seems like he's gotten himself a xxx. I dunno. [laughing] you can try anyway. um and then it's the xxx shape xxx. okay uhhuh. and there also things that if you could do with him that would be fine. okay. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/5929LD.cha = = = = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/5707RT.cha = = = I'm a little out of it I don't have all my stuff [audio interference] either! cheese! yeah! mic me up. here... if you... us... okay I am recording just the wall that's good. okay [laughs]. and um.
yeah and then I know that our room camera is not getting us here so if we can move over here I'm sorry! oh sure. [audio interference] ah he's okay. as long as he's got a light to look at he's good. [audio interference] a field trip to the um ceiling fan department upstairs. [laughs]. okay. um anyways so he loves the animals does he have any favorite animals? um his favorite ones would be the cow that he started of with that he picked outta the book um cows are a big one elephants a big one. [are.] penguin and panda. ah yeah. and giraffe. and he was very particular about um the sheep and the goat I noticed. yeah actually cause um it took us a long time to get him to say those words. and now we have a farm book that we can distinguish better between them cause he would he wouldn't say goat for the longest time. ah which of those animals has he seen you know in the flesh? the cow. the elephant [laughs]. uh the pandas. um the sheep. I noticed you also mentioned um going to the aquarium? he has an aquarium in his crib. oh okay. so a little you know an aquarium that every morning but for months there it was turtle every time we walked into his room cause he wanted to see the aquarium. and in the aquarium there's fish and an octopus. oh perfect. yeah so he had those were some of his earliest words so turtle he's seen live too. mhm. so we have taken him to the zoo to see that.
oh that's fun. he um he also played some with the cooking things. a little bit with the food. yep. um except that he's into shapes right now. so instead of identifying the first one as food he would identify it as triangles. all the way through. yeah. and then when you gotta the ice cream I thought oh good night does he know sphere or cone? [laughs]. he knows cone but as a ice cream cone [laughs]. [laughs]. but that was pretty neat. and yeah for that first part I'm not sposta say what any of the names are I messed up once. [laughs]. once they have said it I feel like that cat is outta the bag a little bit you know... yeah he is into labeling. which is why we're having trouble with verbs cause he wants to label everything. so he knows almost all of his colors. he knows lots of the basic shapes. um you know his basic numbers one through nine or zero through nine. and um the alphabet. so he likes labeling things yes and the... he likes that kinda thing ah! here's the other thing when he doesn't know something he goes back to a word that he's comfortable with which in this case was clock. so whenever he went back to clock he... like you guys are kind of asking for a lot how about clock? [laughs] yeah he wants to be able to answer whatever's correct. so if he goes to a different word than what you're pointing at he doesn't know what it is. mhm.
my son when he was naughty would start the alphabet song like look over here [laughs]! [laughs] yes by the way I know this! yeah and he's learned that pretty early so... we've been working with him you know we'll say it a little bit faster to give him the word. and then he's more comfortable with it he'll start using it more often if we you know only ask once or twice what it is before... yeah. and did he um d' you have this one look familiar? yup. does he have favorite parts of it? the cow jumping over the moon. and the kittens. oh yeah? yep. I was noticing he points to the things in the pictures? he yeah. that's kinda how we read the books is you know we read the words on the page and then we start labeling things on the page. which you know at this point has been mostly the objects. you know the clock the fire things like that. um we're trying to put in action words now but that's not been as successful. [laughs] mhm. well I think you were doing a little bit of up and with the kangaroo too. yeah he likes to be entertained. so he has fun with it so... is there anything you tried to get him to play with here today that he was just not interested in? [cough]. [silence] yeah he wasn't all that interested in the food as such. mm. you know I tried to get him off the animals and see if he would do something else. are there any of these foods that he you know likes to eat? the ice cream cone would ha' been one of them.
um bread. obviously the cookie from earlier [laughs] he's a pretty picky eater so... oh. yeah there wouldn't be too many of them. and xxx is there anything that he really loves to play that we didn't see today? um cars and trucks and buses. that's it xxx that is his main focus. besides he is really big into animals too. um so he will play with those but if you have a vehicle around that will be right where he goes. was just thanking my lucky stars I know that they xxx one more test with a vehicle every three or four and I'm thinking if I can just get there he'll be back engaged again. [laughs]. yeah he is so obsessed with those things. but it was true that. basically when the therapists come to our house we hafta remove all things with wheels from the room so that they can focus on something else. well I think that's what um the thinking was is that cars and trucks get you a lot of [vroom] and not a lot of other language which is what... it yeah. it was the first thing he was interested in and the animals have helped get him into other things. [crying]. ooh do you wanna xxx? well that yeah [audio interference]. its. oh that's okay here I'm gonna cut everything off now. okay sure! I have a couple permission slips to ask you to sign. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/5965PC.cha = = = so yeah. and he has lots of extra grownups so... yeah. love to do it on him and play with him and yes.
oh great. um let me see what did he um seem interested in playing with today? um the animals or the food. are the two big ones that uh he liked the food stuff... you're right not the no peep from the dolls! mhm yeah just stepped over them. that's interesting. um. and with the animals he um were there any that you thought were new to him here that you named today? um there's a couple that he was lookin' at but he went he seemed to go towards the ones he recognized. and just wanted to name them rather than play anything in particular with them just identify them and carry them around. um does he have favorites? elephants. giraffes. yeah. yeah elephants are the big ones that he likes the best right now. are there um some of these that he's seen in real life? yes yes the dolphin? we would we had a aquarium membership so he knows the dolphin splashes and swim and the octopus and he knows a lot of the water animals from seeing them at the aquarium. mhm. those are fun. yeah. I lived in San Diego when my kids were tiny and that was really beautiful that... oh yeah the zoo is nice. this is a good place for the zoo too. yes. has he been to this zoo in... he's been to the Philadelphia zoo a couple times but we're gonna make a trip to the uh National Zoo probably this summer. the Baltimore zoo is not it's not cheap. mhm.
like you hafta pay unlike the Smithsonian but it's also got it's a good scale. yeah. oh okay. 'cause the National Zoo is walking. lots and lots of walking. yes it is lots of walking. the Baltimore Zoo has got a lot of like places where they have little cages not so much for the animals but really nice if you're two and you hafta get real close to check things out. oh that's cool. I'll hafta check that one out. yeah we live we live about thirty minutes away from Philly zoo. hm. so for us thirty forty five minutes we go up there and do the Philly zoo. well thank you for making this drive for us. no problem. that's great. he also seemed to really enjoy the cooking stuff. yes. yes he likes the cooking stuff and pretending. does he have... he's getting one for his birthday actually. which is this week so. yes! yeah he's uh he's played with it at other people's house he does not have it at home yet. what kinds of things are in the set that you got? um it's got... pots and pans and food and plates and microwave and you know the whole kitchen and then he got a grill as well so he'll be able to do some outdoor grilling. the manly side of cooking. absolutely. the same thing Daddy hasta do so. ah that makes sense.
um are there any of these foods that he likes to eat in real life? icecream [laughs]. cupcakes. yeah um fruit. that stuff. those are the ones he seemed to know and recognize 'cause he eats 'em a lot. well he doesn't eat 'em all he likes them. and were any that were new to him? yeah I guess maybe some of the like the cuts of meat and stuff of that. some of the can vegetables he probably doesn't recognize as a can of vegetables so much as... that actual vegetable itself. and you know most toddlers aren't big fans of xxx. no the sushi he wasn't yeah and the pickles. things like that. I mean he knows pickles but he doesn't eat them so. ah [laughs]. my favorite stuff. yeah right? now I forgot to ask does he have animal toys at home as well? yeah I guess he has a couple animal toys not like this scale but he has a couple of 'em that he plays with occasionally. his favorite is trains. oh. he has a big Thomas table and that's what he spends most of his day playing with trains and cars. so no not as far as the animals go. I mean he has a couple of 'em but not a lot. so is there anything he really likes to play with his trains is there anything else he really likes to play with that we didn't really see today? um. he really likes to play so like the trains and cars and runnin' on tracks and stuff like that. um. and then the building the stacking the blocks he loves doin' towers and stuff like that.
hm. those are probably the three things he spends most of his day doing. that makes sense. yeah. and um... Goodnight Moon was not a temptation for him at all. mm. no he likes to read books a lot. but he has his favorites. mhm. and he... he wants to read those books. over and over again. and then he'll switch to another book you know a week or two later and he'll read that one over and over again. but um he did Goodnight Moon I guess he was into Goodnight Moon maybe a couple months ago so that's probably why he didn't look at it much and didn't wanna play with it. that and we did books earlier so. and I think that too there's a ton of xxx... there's a lot of other stuff. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/4269LP.cha = = = I'm gonna talk to miss Jennifer. do you wanna play with the baby or animals? you're cookin'? [lines nine through eleven are addressed to child.] alright. so what did she go for first? uh she went for the animals. does she like playing with animals? yeah. yeah I mean she likes animals in general.
but then when we go... at home she always goes for one of her animal toys we have and... at the um store she likes finding like all the little animal figures a lot so... um so which of these do you think she's seen before? um she's actually probably seen a lot of them before. pizza. um we have a lot of these little books um that have a really big variety of animals in them. so she's seen a lot of them in books. um in real life? not that many so... but like the moose like we were just at my husband's cousin's house and his house is decorated with moose. so she was sayin' moose all weekend so um... and she sees like zebra and like the lemur she saw like it was in one of the books she's been seeing lately. so the particular book it's like it's by uh natural wildlife federation so it's like all about like wild animals so it comes in the mail so it's like a series of books so she sees lots of different animals. baby. baby? icecream. [above two lines are addressed to child. ] so yeah. she likes playing with the animals usually a lot so. she was very excited to see [laughs]. which ones did you show her? um I showed her the lemur. I was curious if she'd remember what it was called from the book. um and I pulled out the moose which she recognized it. um and I showed her the anteater. because that's another one I was like I don't know if she'd remember it or not. but um. but like the hooved animals. and the bears and the sea animals a lot on her own. yeah I noticed that she likes...
mhm. why do you think that is? um I don't know. um I'm trying to think what did we just go to we went to something not that long ago. where did we go? where did we go? we went to somewhere where we were lookin' at sea animals. I can't even remember it. um I feel really badly now 'cause I can't remember. natural history museum? no we do go to the natural history museum a lot. but there was a museum we went to that had all kinds of sea animals at it. it was like um I don't know I'm gonna hav... now it's going to bother me. I'm gonna hafta call my husband and ask 'im. anyways they had tanks of like animals like all different kinds of sea animals and they had lobsters and octopus and stuff but... um so we do take the kids to a lot of museums and things like that. um my older son really likes dinosaurs. so we go to the natural history museum so she's been going to the natural history museum for a long time. so but I dunno. so what are her favorite animals? her favorite animal... like today or just in general? in general. in general um her favorite animals are probably cats and horses. um cats 'cause we have two cats. so... um but she's always liked horses for some reason I don't know why. so if we go to the library she always ends up pulling a book about a horse. um or we got her... like she likes like little horse animals and... um if we see horses she's very excited so.
for some reason she likes horses a lot. um and then she does like sea animals for some reason. [mom is laughing at the end of the word reason.] yeah. so I don't... and none of those in particular that I can think of so. maybe 'cause... I dunno. we do have an aquarium at home. but it's like a small rectangular one that just has little tropical fish so. Lucy how would you like to go outside with Elise? [gasps] you wanna go for a walk? go for a walk with Elise? for a little bit while I keep talking to your mom. you'll find some other toys down the hall. where the potties were? show her. maybe she needs help. yeah. and you can show her what else you found. can you show her and then come back? Lucy you wanna come with me real quick? take a walk. you wanna go outside? you wanna go for a walk? yeah. yeah? okay. right back. baby.
I think the baby's gonna stay here. can you take her for a walk? we can take the baby. show her? do you wanna take the baby? there you go. [laughing]. sorry we just like to have a little quiet when xxx. that's alright. she was getting a little excited about the xxx. she wa' I know. um what of the foods did she... I see there was some cooking going on. she decided to cook yeah. I dunno well she decided this was a pot of something. I don't know wha... she thought it was water at first but she was cooking that as a pot. and um she liked the peas and the cheese. and the pizza. yeah that was a popular one. and she was very excited about this because she never gets to use this at home so [laughs]. understandable. yeah so she could use it all she wanted so... so which of these foods does she like in real life? in real life she actually does like pizza and she likes peas and she likes beans. an' mashed potatoes. um she likes cheese a lot. um this she thought was a waffle. uhhuh. so she was cutting up a waffle... we cut up her waffles so she was cutting up a waffle for the baby. um but there's other foods she likes that she didn't get to but yeah. the pizza and the cheese and the beans.
she likes vegetables a lot. [laughs]. so yeah she likes vegetables and she does not like fruit. so her brother's the opposite he always... it's we have one kid who we're always tryin' 'o get to eat more fruit and one we're gettin' tryin' 'o get to eat more vegetables so. you know. but she's always liked vegetables a lot. so peas and beans she was happy with. do you have play food at home? we do. we do mhm so. play food and little pots and stuff and there's a little kitchen so. um does she have a sweet tooth? she does. [laughs]. she does. um but she didn't really... the pie she thought was a waffle though. yeah. and she didn't see the cookie this time but she was very interested in it earlier when you were showin' the cookie with some of the other stuff so. yeah. she does like cookies a lot. but we don't have pie very often at our house so that might be why she didn't even... she did like cupcakes [laughs]. were there any foods that you showed her that you think she's probably not familiar with? um I didn't show her she looked at this one. she'd never probably seen this before. the kiwi. and she probably wouldn't... she's seen these rarely. mushroo she's probably seen them a couple times at our house but by the time they get to the dinner table they don't look like this. so [laughs].
I know all about that. so. um I think most of the things she would've seen at our house. somewhere or the other so. she seemed to be interested in the dolls. she does. she likes her baby dolls a lot. so um but she actually just got a couple of new ones 'cause it was her birthday and then a neighbor gave us some. [sneezes]. excuse me. um but she doesn't usually try to dress 'em up very often. so um she actually likes to take all the clothes off of them most of the time. and occasionally if she wants them dressed she comes and is like mom help and she'll have me try to put on whatever it is. but she usually tries to get all the clothes off of the baby dolls. and then she does other stuff with them like she likes to push them in a stroller or she has a little doll carrier to put them in. or she'll give 'em bottles like she does other stuff but she doesn't like getting them dressed. so I... she seemed particularly interested in the feet. yeah well she does like shoes a lot so [laughs]. we always have laughed 'cause she's liked shoes since she was really little. and my husband's always like ah she's such a girl. it's like I dunno. she likes shoes more than I do so. is there anything you thought she'd be interested in that she wasn't and you were surprised? um I dunno. I thought she might like the puzzle a little bit more but I think she likes the other stuff so um... it seemed like she looked at a lot of things. yeah. there was a lot of things she was really interested in. so um.
I guess at our house my husband and I are very um organized people for the most part. he's a engineer and I wasn't an engineer but I worked for engineering companies so both of us tend to be very organized. so all of our toys at home are like there's a bin of animals there's a bin of trains there's a bin of doll things. so everything's in it's own space so she doesn't usually get like a whole array of um intermixed toys um to look at. usually if she's playing animals then we say when you're done with the animals you pick up the animals and put them away and then you can move on to something else so. um we try to get... it doesn't work all that often but sometimes it does. we try to get her and my son to learn to pick up um what they finish with cause I get tired of picking up toys all the time. so um we always try to get them to pick up their toys and if there's a bin it's easier for them they just okay all the dolls go in there all the animals go in there and then it's done and it gets put off to the side till they can play with something else. so they don't usually get a whole array of a mix of toys. unless the house is really messy. so this is unusual for her. this is unusual for her to have this arrangement of toys. um the toys themselves. but yeah even like in our house our food toys are in our basement. um we have like a finished basement all her food toys are downstairs but her dolls are upstairs. um she has like a couple of small things that came with the baby dolls like uh spoons and bowls and some baby food jars and bottles that stay with the baby dolls but the actual food stuff is downstairs and the dolls are upstairs. um an' like they're in her room and a lot of the animals are either in my son's room or out in the general area. so none of these toys are in the same place in our house. so she was very excited. okay. [laughing]. just one more question. sure. um how have you noticed her play changing since the last time you came in? um let's see. was it eighteen months? eighteen months. let's see um... it's a ways back.
yeah I know I'm tryin' 'o to think like what was she doing then? um probably one big thing I've noticed is she started doing um more of the make up play. like if she would take like two of these animals and say like that goes there and she would bring this one and he goes next to it and she might bring up another one and stick it [talking noises] like they pretend they're talking. so she's starting to do more of imaginative play with whatever toy whether it's this or my son's cars or whatever. you know she's starting to um do that kind of play. you know it useta be just she'd pick it up and look at it and might talk to it but not actually have the toys interact. so she is doing that now. um and I dunno. baby dolls she's liked her baby dolls since she was about a year. but she probably... she's a little more possessive about her baby dolls now. um she gets a little bit more attached to them if somebody tries to take one she gets more um attached like she's the mommy and that's her baby and you don't take the baby from the mommy. so she does that. um and I dunno I think she's doing a little more imitation of me lately. um you know I notice things like even in the car how she's trying to get into her carseat and things like. cause I noticed she was trying to sit with her buckles the way that I sit with my seatbelt on. and I was like hm you're really watchin'. so xxx I noticed at the house I think she's tryin' 'o do a little bit more I think she's tryin' 'o copy me a little bit more. it useta be she copied her brother a lot. and she still does. and um she would copy dad also but I think she's starting to realize that mom does some things and dad and brother do other things and she's starting to copy more of what mom does. so... and my son kinda did the same thing he started at some point copying more of dad. but see if that carries on or not. okay so that is the end of the study. wow. yep. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/4734ES.cha = = = yeah. it was cracking me up that she was whispering xxx...
I know I know [laughing]. but I tried everything I could think of. she knows... and we weren't ready to get that today. what did she like playing with here? um she seemed to like those screws. I mean that sorta grabbed her interest right away. oh yeah? and then she s kinda moved on to the the animals. were there any animals that she... the doll a little bit. oh yeah. a little bit with the doll. what's that Elle? [to child.] what ya doing? [to child.] look at you cooking. that's okay you can do that. you gonna make us some lunch? [to child.] yeah? you hungry? [to child.] haha. now did she notice anything in particular about our dolls? mm just this one. she was pointing out the hat and the shoes the black shoes. right? and the hair.
are you feeding the dolly lunch? [to child.] that's so nice. she's probably pretty hungry. [to child.] what's she eating? [to child.] haha. are there any of the animals that um you think were new to her? um I think a lot of them were new. I don't know that she's ever seen an eel before. haha and this one she called a whale. which um I don't know that she knows really the difference between all the different you know dolphins and whales and sharks and... and she called this one a bug. ah well... it does kinda look like a bug. it's in the tree of life. little buglike. does it say what it is? no. no I would guess lobster. but... it's almost xxx the size. but that would be really obscure I guess. yeah. haha. and she really likes um good night moon. she loves books. and she likes books that are familiar. but she also will bring new books over.
we have tons of books at home. and so she'll bring a book over and say " read this one. " or she'll say " read it. " she likes the mouse. she usually points out the full moon. and the stars and the mouse. she'll finish the phrases. oh that's neat. yeah. sometimes. does she have... she points to different things in the pictures. I like these pictures 'cause there's a lot to look at. yeah. so she'll find different things sometimes. sometimes we'll kind of just stay on a page for a while. and she'll look at it and find different things. are there words that um you're sure that she would say everytime pretty much? which are the ones that you know... mush. haha. and are there any... usually she'll say mush just about every time and... mittens. are there any of the other ones that you're still working on you think? um I don't know that we're really working on any of them. I don't always pause in the same places I guess. so I just like to see which ones she remembers.
ah or which ones she'll say if I point to the picture. so... are any of these toys like toys you've got at home. there are no particular ones. we have a big play kitchen at home. with lots of pots and pans and utensils and play food and stuff so... just that. and we do have some dolls. um we don't have anything like this. these are great. haha these are really cool. yeah Doctor Ratner really worked... and actually my older daughters have a couple of the word world. one has dog. and one has cat. so she sees those. I was surprised that she didn't pick up sheep and bee 'cause she knows how they come apart. ah xxx kids are a little older xxx. haha. [vocalizes] yeah well it's the show on p b s that my four year olds like to watch. I bet. so... and she watches it sometimes right? [vocalizes] Ellie is eating pizza? Donna do you have four year old twins? yeah. they came to one study. um it wasn't here.
it was in a different department I think. ah and I don't remember which department it was in. yeah it might have been psychology. I remember shh she had them look at pictures of things. like um you know a picture of like five small ducks. and then one big duck. and asked them which one was more. oh interesting. and ah I remember that one. and there were a few other things that they had them do. it was a really interesting one actually. cool. yeah I thought it was kind of cool. is there anything else that Ellianna likes to play that we didn't really...? see today. it really depends so much on her mood [laughing]. do you wanna read some more books Ellie? yeah. yeah? ah we have a couple books in our bag. I don't know if they needta be your books [laughing]. do you wanna... here you go honey. do you wanna look at those? do you wanna read the barn book? [consent forms and cleaning up]. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/6691MW.cha = = = = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/5057MS.cha = = = = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/6826LD.cha = = =
= = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/5266EC.cha = = = [laughs]. you have some friends who are watching they can come right now. ooh! [IDS ] do you think Libby wants to come play with us now? [IDS] I needta um just mop up with you an interview and permission slip. okay okay. which will be about ten minutes but... yes yes. it would be helpful for Heddie to um to be able to go. yes [laughs]. I think that um I'm so hungry. you're so hungry? yeah I'm hungry too. [IDS] yyy yyy. I wonder where tiny baby is I bet he's hungry too. [IDS ] Tiny! [IDS] mm. [IDS] mm. [IDS ] I think that xxx. hey! why don't you come take a walk? d' you wanna come see Auntie Libby?
[IDS] d' you wanna trade Auntie Libby? I heard him crying. [Aunt talking to child, child talking to Aunt, Mom talking to Aunt ] oh he's sweet too. he is he's a little sweetheart. my um... my grandmother is convinced that this is the first sweet boy in the entire world previously she thought only girls could be sweet but... oh does she not have much experience with the boys? she has two girls of her own but she has among her seventeen grandchildren... half are boys. oh. well then grandma is a tough audience! yeah she is she has uh one two three... four five she has six great grandchildren and only one girl. so Heddie is very spoiled [laughs]. she was beautiful for us. we did so much. yeah she was pretty patient. just a trooper I was... so impressed by her. thank you. my kids when we were in California it was always breastfeeding central. yes yes. it was kinda nice in a way. you were never the only one in California [laughs]. yeah [laughs]. well what I wanted to do is talk to you a little bit about um... Heddie's play. and um what kind of things did she play with first here?
we first played with the wooden cutout animals. mhm. and then... the plastic animals and then I think when she discovered the little toy kitchen she was yyy she liked that. she was really yeah interested in that. does she have any animals that are her favorites? um in general? shh I mean we have dogs and she's a little obsessed with dogs. but she also is very partial to pigs. and um... and giraffes. maybe. but xxx I think the hierarchy is dogs then pigs. then maybe giraffes and beavers. and then everything else [laughs]. ah. and do you have toys that are similar to these at home? you know um... that's kind of a tough question to answer right now because we are um uh... we don't have anything that's exactly like anything here. and we're also in the process of renovating a house. so a lot of her normal toys are in storage and she just has a few things. out at the apartment where we're staying for like two months. so I think she's just excited to have so many toys. around um but she has a lot of stuffed animals and she has um. at home she has a little house that has a little kitchen in it. that she likes. has she been to different places where there are a lot of animals? like the zoo... yeah.
[whisper] yeah. yeah she likes the zoo and she likes the aquarium. has she ever been to a farm? yes... yes we just went to a... a like a show farm for a pumpkin festival and... Amish Country so she's been to farm. and were there any of our animals that you thought were new to her? yeah I don't know if she'd seen a peacock before. I mean maybe she has but. I think that one might've been new and... I'm sure there are a few others that certainly aren't in her regular rubbage bar. animals. does she also does she have tools to play with at home? no. no um because they're renovating the house she sees real tools sometimes. oh. we're not living there but she comes with me sometimes for walkthroughs and stuff and... and so she knows tools and my husband is kind of handy and so he has... his own little collection of tools but they always had a distance. but she knows what they are. and she knew painting really well. yeah. I wonder if that's due to the renovation. maybe or um she just started an art class a couple of weeks ago and they've been doing a lot of painting there so. she's talked about that more lately. than before. yeah. she also seemed to be um interested in the dolls.
yeah she was. and she's not really a big doll person she definitely prefers stuffed animals usually but. she liked this doll. do you have um kind of similar big kid dolls? no we don't and actually my grandma wanted to get her one for her birthday and I said I didn't think she was ready and I may needta reconsider that for Christmas because she liked it. so yeah. yeah and their gender is kind of hard to tell. yes it's a little gender neutral. [laughs]. I think that was the point what did you decide it was? I think we thought it was a girl with short hair. yeah I try to take off all the pink before people come in to preserve. right. but then Heddie um Heddie called it a him a couple of times so maybe she thought it was a boy. well it can be tricky. she also seems to have a lot of nice cooking routines. Heddie? yeah. yeah [laughs]. yes. does she like to help in the kitchen? she does. she does she likes to... she likes to help in the kitchen and she also she really loved her play kitchen before we packed it up she liked to invite people into her little house and to give them things and she'd like carry it around on a tray and get upset if you didn't eat it. were any of these foods here things that she eats in real life? she loves hotdogs when we go to Costco that's a special treat for her. and the other stuff I don't think it would be particulary familiar she likes peas. she's always liked peas. but um I mean we eat a lot of greenbeans but they look very different from the greenbeans you have. um so I don't think that much of the food was part of her you know kind of her regulars or her favorites.
and she knows um and she knew um she had that birthday. yes. yyy cupcakes or muffins. yes. yes yes cupcakes definitely she would know. yeah for some of them that is a marvelous new thing. [laughs] she loves toys like that like the cupcakes that are um um like little things in a series that are connected somehow. when um... we visited my mom's house in Denver for a month and... my mom's house is like a wonderland it's like you landed in a fairy godmother's place. and of all the toys and you know these huge open spaces which we just don't have in the city and everything that was there her favorite thing. was a set of um... popsicle molds. it was very much like a muffin tin you know it's it was like six little things like a muffin tin like thing that had stars. oh yeah. like plastic star stick tops that went into it and she didn't know that it was popsicle mold. mhm. but she loved it and she wanted to take it to sleep her and she liked arranging the pink stars and the orange stars in specific ways. and then um we were at my brothers place. a couple of weeks ago and he had a popsicle mold set that was different. these the plastic covers of the popsicles came off it looked totally different but it was the same kind of thing it was like a series of things that was not totally dissimilar from the cupcake thing here. and she loved it and she took it all over the house with her... so there's something about that particular type of toy that she finds extremely intriguing. or not even toy 'cause the others they're weren't toys they're just objects. but something about having something that fits into something else that's part of a series is really pleasing to her. that is cool. is there anything that she plays a lot that we didn't really see here? uh I mean she likes... trying to think what her favorite things are. right now she has a Curious George game that she's obsessed with right now that's um.
it's like a box that has puzzle pieces on the top of it and under the puzzle pieces is clear plastic and under the clear plastic is... like little blue pellets that's sposta be sand. and you shake up the box and you find things that are hidden in it. and she put up with our finding things. yeah she... for a long time time because she knows that as an idea. I mean she just got it last week so it's fresh in her mind and she's literally wanted to play it for like three hours every day since she got it so so she likes that and she likes um... she loves stuffed animals. does she play does she take care of them? she does. like what does she do with her stuffed animals? yes. she has a pig that has been her long time favorite and then a little blanket. and she recently informed me that the pig and the blanket were married. which I thought was kind of cute. and um she likes to tuck the pig into the blanket and she talks to them and sometimes Oink Oink is crying or sometimes he needs a new diaper or sometimes he's happy. and um... do they have meals? uh yes she likes to feed Oink Oink the blanket not so much he's more an accessory. no mouth [laughs]. but Oink Oink you know sometimes we hafta explain to her that Oink Oink can't come to the table or he'll get dirty and she says he's hungry... um and she'll feed him different things you know she'll share her milk. her sippycup with him. ah. mm. well I think... and she plays a lot with her baby brother is the other things she likes to take care of him a lot. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/5474ES.cha = = = are we done?
fun! yeah this'll be fun! fun! so this is you know like last time I'll just ask you about the toys you played with. she loved the muffins! like holy cow! she she was really interested huh... she was really into she wanted to stir them she wanted to put 'em in she wanted to count 'em she fed 'em to the babies. I think she liked the muffins the best out of everything. we often get uh cupcake. oh. but she's just shy of her birthday. yeah. so... yeah. we do we do cupcakes at home. but we do more muffins. mm. so my son really likes muffins. so strange she said we do pumpkin muffins even when it's bread we call 'em muffins 'cause then xxx... yeah no! so we call 'em muffins. well what did she seem to play with first? um we played with the dolls first. mhm. and then food. and then we hit animals for a little bit. and then it was back to the food. and then I tried to get her over here. 'cause I felt like we kinda neglected this section.
but she didn't seem super interested. ah. we have that book at home so I thought maybe she would recognize it or look at it or something but... she liked the muffins. you know the book doesn't I always think that too but and that they'd be tired by the time they get to it but. yep. not so much. usually for most people does she have um dolls at home? we have babydolls but nothing that you dress yet. we don't have we to not have a lot of mess [laughs] this is like a lot of pieces for us. for me for right now. um we do have a lot of food. um. most of the food we just don't... I don't think she really plays with it too much. we don't have a lot of animals... well she was really interested in the different clothes huh? she liked the shoes. ah. she really likes shoes. so she wanted them to have shoes. I tried to find like matching shoes but that there's a lot of black and white shoes. so... yeah we try for um you know we try for gender neutral. yeah. well although this is a tutu I think. it's fine. oh is I couldn't like quite figure it out oh a pompom [laughs]. xxx ah! I couldn't figure it out 'cause it was just like pink and kinda swirly.
yeah. and she didn't play with the tools too much. oh she seemed kinda interested xxx. yeah. well we fixed tried to fix this but... yeah that is a problem with the fixers fall apart. yeah. and um she also sleeps with her babydolls at home does she have play routines xxx... she hugs them. um we hug we do a lot of hugging and kissing. yes. and I try to get her to tuck them in. because she doesn't like a blanket on her at night I'm always afraid that she's cold! so I think if we tuck the babies in then she'll see that a blanket is okay [laughs]. yeah. but there's. she stands up and cries until I leave the room and then she lays down and falls right asleep. but she won't let me put a cover on him. oh okay. but we put covers on babies. okay. so we've started and we tuck the babies in we lay the babies down we put the blanket on the babies you say night night to the babies and then I say you lay down and it's like no! can't get me to lay down I won't be covered up [laughs]. yeah. so... she's onto you. she is she's smart. and she also played some with the animals. she played a little bit. yeah.
we named 'em. um does she have one that she liked I don't think so. xxx wanna know were there any that she particularly liked? but it... we played with this a little bit. she liked this thing. li'le stove. are there any animals that she would've seen in real life? um well... from this set probably not [laughs]. yeah. we've seen cow is there a cow in here we've seen pigs. we've seen... rabbits we've seen squirrels. you know we're city folk now. we're city folk [laugh]. it's a little harder. are there any that you think you named for the first time today? the swan. I know we've done peacocks we've done bees... this ring tailed thing. I know we've done penguins. oh. the swan. I don't think I've named a swan for her before. or a moose. and does he have animal toys at home? no no. [whisper] we're all therapy toys.
oh [laughs]. I hate to say but we are we're like what can... I know. well right now. right right. we're beads and blocks and um. drawing and coloring and... what else do we play with a lot we're in therapy a lot [chuckles] so. lots of books lots of um. do you have um. do they come to your home for this or do you is is it center based? no. oh no. yeah center based. center and school so he goes to therapy. five days a week in the morning. and then we come home and he goes to school all afternoon. wow. so. and when he's at school she's taking her nap. so when she wakes up from her nap then we get to play. um at therapy we do books we have car toys that are like all one piece battery operated. like easy to clean up toys. yeah. so. it's a little different. yeah it sounds like she did seem to like the cooking toys. yeah. we have a big kitchen. 'cause um we got it for therapy.
my son can pull up in it it's the step two walk in kitchen. mhm. so we got it so he can pull up. 'cause it was you know a wider base. and we didn't want him pulling up on something and then tipping it over. so we have the biggest walk in kitchen that they make. ah! so the kitchen is a fun toy and we have an art desk so she likes to color. we have a lot of free space. for running and playing and and stuff. oh that's nice. um are there any of these foods that she likes to eat in real life? she likes orange juice. she doesn't like icecream she doesn't like pizza she likes cheese. she likes cookies of course. she doesn't like meat a lot yet. she likes cheese she doesn't like peas even though she likes to pick them up. and she says she wants them. we don't eat a lot of soup. we eat anything that's super hands on. and do your toy foods do you have any of these foods at home? we have this exact same piece of pizza. ah! we have these peas. we don't have any sushi toy at home. the sushi on her quilt. I think we have this though our cookie has brown chips in it. we have some cans of soup um. we have some hamburgers. I mean we have similar foods.
I don't think we have any kiwi at home. I don't think we have any icecream. I don't think we have any muffins. yeah those are cute aren't they? yeah they are they're so cute. [whisper] yeah it's nice that they fit yeah. that's always nice. and then there's a puzzle too. yeah. [whisper] and is there anything that you thought she'd be interested in and she just really didn't go for. no. I mean just the book. mhm. she's a big person. maybe everything else was exciting and new and different. so but normally she brings the book over. yeah. well she um you know she made it through everything we made her do xxx it's a long morning. yeah. except for the train. yeah. sorry. well no that's okay it's you know the thing is that with two year olds it's tricky 'cause they are often not guessers. yeah. she was a little bit. yeah. but um. you know you hafta kind of fiddle with it and you don't know really am I done because it's hard for me now?
yeah. am I done because I'm done with you. yeah [laugh]. you don't know! which you're dealing with and we just we just do our best. yeah you did fine. but um... no and she was um I noticed too I wondered what your um I felt like sometimes for my little penguin she gave me placeholders. I don't know if she was always trying the name. what did you think? oh. sometimes she was saying she I think she was saying bird a couple times. yeah or there's that one called Dook and everytime it comes in here it's like yes duck. 'cause... can't you see? it's a duck. yeah. duck right. but yeah. yeah. so yeah some of the ones that were like the stranger the ones that you made up names for some of 'em she got some of 'em she didn't some of them she said like like the... yeah. okay. as long as she tried did you see some of them she did not try? oh some of 'em she didn't try. okay. yeah. yeah some of 'em she didn't try but the Pullaphone Pullahphone... Punephone? Punephone and then she got the phone.
yeah yeah it's a phone xxx what are you talkin' about [laugh]. I don't know what you're tryin' to get me to say here phone okay it's callin' [laugh] so. linguistically it's kind of interesting. like what she uh she does. I'm actually afraid that you're actually testing me [laughs]. well actually now that we're there um let me get to that. okay. for all this time she's been coming in and you've been coming in and um we've been recording her and we've also been recording you. oh yay [laughs]. um and we don't talk about it at the beginning because it's already weird enough in the little room with the ladies and um... [laugh]. and we're afraid that you know people would alter what they did even more. oh yeah. if we talked earlier. but one of the things we're also looking at is how people talk to their children and how their their speech and language change to their children as children get older. okay. as children understand more 'cause when you first came when she was seven months old the chances of her understanding most of these were very minimal. right. and then um as they get older their chances of understanding increase but also on pace with um what they might produce. yeah. right right right. if they're in a repeating mode or not. and so we're looking at um particularly some acoustic things. that's one one of the things we've looked at so far where um we look at how distinctly someone says something like cat. I just said it without a lot of t. and... right. but you get it and it's pretty normal. right. um so we're looking at how people do that for people who might be learning a lot of new words cat and can cat and...
right. or you know. and we'd love to do that for that we need your permission. oh that's fine. yeah. on the back xxx here. [laughs]. so that one is this one... so let me just... you can do whatever you wanna with anything [laughs]. and this is um it's got two and it's initial and initial sign. yeah. and then um... this is kind of how it works with with the um research approval after the final consent form we thought of something else. oh okay. so we hadta make another one. that's fine. and I said they're working on a um we've had for a long time an online database of child language. uhuh. and um it's transcripts on the computer. okay. and it's really interesting but it's only as interesting as the transcripts. right. and our better computers but we can now keep digital audio. oh cool. and so it isn't there yet but the University of Maryland with some other universities are hoping to put together an online audio, missing database of child language. but. oh okay. in something like that we can search for things that we don't even know are important yet. okay.
like these acoustic pieces. okay. that are lost when someone transcribes it. right. all of it is is completely deidentified anytime we mentioned you know that you have a bunny where you live your name her name. that gets bleeped out. yeah. and it also gets kept separately from the demographic information... it's okay if you tell people that we have a bunny. well you know... I don't think that anyone's gonna care I know what you mean. but also if you know ten years from now you think gosh it'd be so cute to hear her we couldn't find it 'cause it's not kept with your information anymore. right. it goes into the pile. into the void. yeah. it goes into the void it's okay. I mean it's conceivably I don't see how you could find it. yeah. there's no way basically. yeah. you'd hafta listen to them all. yeah. and then pick out your kid? that'd be an interesting study. it'd be thousands ten years later. xxx can you but if you listens yeah well like could like pick out like [laugh]. and can you remember [laughs]. what you talked about... yeah so for that there are three flavors this one is just to be in this research.
uhuh. this one is yes we can use transcripts but not those audio files and this one is the most permissive to let us contribute our audio, missing files to other people's research so you choose one here and you sign. uhuh. yeah. yeah. and do you have um have more any questions for me about the things we did today? no. okay. well that's easy. we we just come in for I think it's fun. yeah. just call and and ask. I don't think so we just do it for the I mean we useta live five minutes away so it was a lot easier. but um we do it 'cause it's somethin' to do. well I think... it's somethin' to do. well it's interesting you get a different perspective on your child and um. yeah. I think so. I have a very different perspective on my son now [laughs]. you know and the day to day too sometimes you know the younger sib. well that's what I even told. Devon. Devon there we go. I was like it's nice to just watch... it's nice to just watch like what she does 'cause like sometimes I don't get to just watch her. like you know. yeah. 'cause you have a package deal going. yeah exactly you can't.
yeah exactly you're like you go over there! and I'm gonna watch you and uh. she's obviously very different with him than she is on her own. 'cause with him like she's always like fightin' to keep her stuff you know? get away from me I'm playing over here. and then he wants her whatever whatever. she has is the best thing according to him. so if she had this doll even though he had never played with this doll ever. he would come up and snatch it away from her. so it's nice to let her have everything. so. ah. it's fun. it's a fun thing. we did add questions about siblings to our questionnaire. yeah. um I think that they weren't there for the couple and then we thought oh. this this is important. yeah. yeah yeah 'cause you know it's it's different. and I'm sure if you did this in our house you would get much different stuff 'cause we did a few things with Georgetown too. oh yes. 'cause Georgetown comes and does stuff in your home and obviously now we moved away but it's kinda cool. I think this is fun [laughs]. oh that's interesting. it's interesting being on the other end of it too with... everything. so so we're all done except for the prize which is still kind of small. prize! yeah but she can pick one or you can pick one for the ride home.
it seems very small compared to your effort and um driving time. oh. doesn't matter. I have some books I have some cute t-shirts. with the with the little turtle on 'em. we want books we love books. [continues on picking out book] = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/5066WT.cha = = = you can eat whenever you like xxx. yeah I guess we'd like to um... look at what they enjoyed playing with now that they're almost two. oh goodness! do you wanna show xxx. go show her. can I see? what's that? can you bring it over here? can you show her? um so what did he enjoy playing with? today. he still loves to cook. we've been enjoying cooking for a very long time. yes. so um that seems to always captivate him. does he have any favorite food items? everything is in storage. oh. food items here? yeah.
oh you know. I was thinking anything that fit in the pot um... and didn't seem to be limited as long as it would fit with something else so... I can't say that we have a favorite. what are the things that he has copies of himself? we have a donut and a piece of pizza and green beans. and a hot dog. cheese. hey mommy. yes! look she's got eyes! um and of course the cups and pans and... a little oven. which of these does he eat in real life? cheese. he loves cheese. and green beans. and um I am told that he eats hot dogs at the day care. and um that's probably about it. some ice cream. but for the most part it's noodles and uh nothing is you know looking like the noodles he eats anyway. yeah. he has nice cooking play routines. he knows what to do with the food and he knows that it's hot. yes. and that was neat. he spends a lot of time in the kitchen watching. yeah and I see that he knows about pouring and... yes he helps. I take a set or he takes things out of the cupboards and does it as I'm doing it and I talk with him and sometimes I'll let him stir it.
so... he's good at mixing too. yes he's a very good stirrer. and he seems to have a really healthy respect for hot. he does. um and it didn't take much. um it was just overly warm food. that's all it took. and he has a deep respect. my husband's very sensitive to heat and I think he must have gotten that too. so... ah that makes sense. and then um he seemed to really like the animals. we're big animal fans. um anything that's an animal is fascinating to him and so the zoo before we melted down was fun. um of course the dog and the cat and all the ducks on the pond and the bunnies in the backyard he just absolutely has a... mommy a xxx. oh it is! it's her shoe. her shoe. very good. yeah just like that one. I can't even say that I encourage anything. he has discovered his own likes and dislikes and then we pursue it from there. and he really seemed interested in all the birds. he really enjoys the ducks in the pond across the street and I think has developed a fascination from there. um so yeah it does seem to come from his environment. that piece at least I assume. are any of these names new to him? um.
that you told him in this play session? yes. lemur um... where adult birdies kind of disappeared. oh from the birds? yeah. let's see. from the birds. the birds he's all heard before. it was the other animals that he hadn't... there was a couple of african ones that we haven't gone across before. yeah all the birds he's encountered. and is there anything that you kind of tried to get him interested in here but he didn't really wanna do? even if I brought it out and he turned his attention away he came back to it. I think like the animals. and I was surprised that he was interested I was just curious to see if he would dress a doll. um and I was surprised to see that he did so... and again at day care there are girls and boys and I think that they obviously interplay and um he's not... we've had dolls in the house he's just never gleamed onto them and tried to do anything with them before so... our letter? animals. we've got a bee and what else? yeah the zebra. um very briefly but it was after I think you and I cut off and he started to show me part of the zebra. I think they're creepy. really? I do. I don't like that their body parts come off. you're right segmented is a little weird. that's funny.
but you know... I guess that's what we've got. oh and it took us a while but we did get some xxx. yeah the xxx. yeah. which is you know... good job. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/5609DW.cha = = = so can you tell me about what you guys played with today? hm the food. she likes to name things. so she was naming all the food pieces. um and she played with the babies. she likes to have all of her dolls naked. so she was working on that. at home none of her dolls have any clothes. that's basically it. um so at home she likes to undress them and then put their clothes back on... nope. just keep 'em off. and then point out the body parts. right Dorothy? [IDS.] does she um have dolls like this at home? mhm. like um kinda like the bigger dolls like I know... yeah the bigger dolls that their eyes open and close. with hair. yep.
just the exact same. and then she has a newborn baby. also that she likes to point out it's little features. does she like to do anything else with them besides like undress them or does she like pretend to... um she carries 'em around all day. all day. like that. like the dog? yep. exactly. she has one thing that she carries around all day. and then a purse. she hasta have a purse. so she's gonna put that on like a purse. that's cute. hi Dorothy. [IDS.] you a little momma? [IDS.] did you say that you had something like this at home when you talked about the food stuff? um yes now she has a kitchen. I had this growing up. she doesn't have this. oh. she's never seen it before. but I had the same thing. oh cool. but she's got a stove and a sink and she cooks. and she's got fruits. um she seemed to know some of the names of them so um does she eat any of these types of food at home?
mhm. maybe like certain ones has she seen you eat or...? yeah. she can name the stuff that she has seen and eaten. like obviously I mean you know. [laughs]. um. yeah she can name the stuff that she's seen before. the abstract stuff like she's not seen she doesn't know. so yeah. like she didn't know the kiwi fruit. 'cause she's never seen one. but maybe now she will know. Dorothy what's this? [IDS.] what is that? is it kiwi? [IDS.] piwi. piwi? [IDS.] yeah a lot of the kids are like what is that? but she new like um xxx some of the other fruit. [lots of mic noise.] mhm. yeah that's her phase is just like naming stuff. [lots of mic noise.] and holding it up and having you name it. and then she'll put it down. that's one of our games.
at the moment so. doesn't surprise me. does she ever try to help you in the kitchen? like stirring up stuff and...? mhm. yep. and she will bring the chair over to where I'm cooking and she'll push it over and then she'll get up and watch. so. that's cute. she's like a little homemaker. yeah. I'm not trying to get her to be or anything. gender neutral. that's just what she likes to do. yeah. um was there anything you tried to get her to uh play with that she didn't seem interested in? these guys here. the animal sorting habitat thing. I don't think she's not done that before yet. so. I mean she likes animals but we haven't really talked about where they belong. did she recognize the names of uh most of 'em? mhm. um yeah like whale I don't remember teaching her whale but she knew it. have you guys been to like the aquarium or something or...? um. or like a farm or something maybe some of these animals she's seen? uhuh. like some of 'em she's seen. some of 'em like she is in daycare a lot so.
I'm sure that she gets exposed to a lot of stuff there too. mhm. so maybe she learns it there because she knew moose one day. she saw a moose head. and she's like moose. and I know I never taught her. so. that's funny. [laughs]. um yeah it's just like picking it up as she goes. yeah. yeah. she likes to repeat. um like when we were doing you know the pictures she liked to repeat so that was good for us to help get 'em but. mhm. yeah. and that's how she's gonna learn 'em so. mhm. did she seem interested in these other kinda more life like... uhuh. does she have anything like this at home? not really. uhuh. no animals. just food and dolls. do you think she's maybe seen any of them on tv? like I dunno if she... I feel like she seemed to know the names of some other ones too I can't remember um. I feel like maybe she knew more food names though because she'd be more familiar with it but. mhm.
um I think through books. she learned the animals. like Dorothy what's this guy? what is it? [above two lines are IDS.] like she knows this guy because I have a lot of Richard Scarrey books and so she knows the characters. which are also animals. so she likes to look at books a lot? a lot. that's her number one thing. [laughs]. yeah I was surprised she didn't go for this book. she doesn't like that book. I don't like it either. actually. I have it. it's not fun to read. the illustrations aren't very good. so it's just [meh]. it's sort of just like one of those books that everyone has I feel like but yeah. it's pointless creepy. she recognized like um I think she held the little moon shoes. mhm. yeah she likes moon and sun. I didn't know if maybe she knew it from there but yeah. uh she has a lot of books with like sun and moon and stuff in 'em. I don't think she went for the tools at all either. nope. nothing like that at home? well sometimes the real tools are sitting out.
and um she will use them. like pry them into into cracks and things like that but. not too much. this is all she does all day. carrying around a purse and a baby. so she's right at home. does she have siblings? nope. I was gonna say if she maybe saw her sister or brother doing it. nope. but she's there's babies at daycare. and at the store I work at there's babies a lot too. she's just surrounded by babies basically all the time. and people caring for babies. yeah. uh was this similar to what she did in the previous play sessions? uhuh. oh what did she do then? well I guess it was kind of the same. it was a pile of food a pile of stuffed animals and a pile of books. and she would always gravitate toward the food. and... yeah but it wasn't like everything else that you did today hasn't done before. it's basically just the three piles of stuff and what is she going to play with. and it's always been the food. and this was no different. but there's just different food I think before... different food yep. I can't even remember what we had at the other play sessions. the other stuff was all wooden foods.
oh is it? like all wooden cans and wooden pieces of cheese. I know everything in this session is very life like. like all the animals and like they have the strangest foods you know that I think... yeah. [lots of mic noise.] yep. oh yeah I noticed with the like porkchops she was like... she's like chicken. all meat is like chicken. which is like gets her to eat it. [mic noise.] same thing with vegetables you just kinda make it up. exactly. sure. that's a... it's a pickle. of course. I wanted to get that to work too. it goes ding. I think it's broken. oh. alright well. yeah. is there anything else you wanna tell us or ask us about or...? hm this is the last one? this is the two year old and done? yeah this is it. we're done. oh I'm sad.
yeah I know. she's been with us for a while. I know. it's crazy. it's crazy that it's like it just comes so fast the last visit. I know. do they have other studies for older kids or is two the cut off for all the studies? oh no we have um we have a three and a four... right Sean? there's a three and a four year old. um and then... I think there's a few around... yeah. yeah I think there's a few around threeish and then there's one we're doing in this room actually we use that computer. oh okay. you can do it either like three or four years old. mhm. so you can catch her at some point and have her come in if you wanna uh bring her back. yeah of course. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/7013VD.cha = = = = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/7553JT.cha = = = the room, there's like, we bounce around. okay. um. okay, so can you just tell me about what you guys played with today? we played with... I played with the water animals. Jessica played with the food the kitchen stuff. okay.
were any favorites she had? sushi. mhm. [laughing]. she was playing with the icecream cone, trying to take the top off of the cone and put it back on. and is there anything she didn't seem interested in playing with at all? the toys I liked. the animals. the animals. in their little habitats. did she go after the dolls at all? no she didn't. no, or the um, trying to think of what else we have. did she just stay with the food. she did mostly the food. do you think she recognized some of the um, the food she played with? I think some of it. like she called the purple thing grapes. though I don't they were actually grapes. but, like, that's what she thought. grapes. do you think, like, has she seen you eat any of the things we have, or has she eaten some of them? yah, sushi. [silence]. yah. pizza. [laughing]. grapes. yah. does she ever try to help you?
oh, icecream. does she try to like help you in the kitchen at all? yes. yah. I let them do the salad spinner. oh yah? let them spin the salad. oh yah? I couldn't, did she... did she know what the stove was, like I wasn't really watching. I think so, she was turning it on and off. and she like gets hot and cold. like, she's fascinated with stoves. we hafta keep her away from ours. yah. um, and do you think... she recognized some of the animals at all? yah, whale, shark. no, actually she said dolphin for both dolphin and shark. so, she likes water animals. have you guys been to like the aquarium? no, we're gonna do that this weekend I think. ah, oh cool... we were gonna do it for her birthday but they close at five everyday. oh. except for friday. mm. is that the Baltimore one? I've never been there. it's really awesome.
really, I hafta go check it out. um, and then you said you have like similar toys at home? yah, they're a little bit smaller but we have a whole big thing of fish. and then we have a thing of like different water toys. there's dolphins and whales and sharks and. so she's familiar with those ones? have you guys ever been to like the zoo or like a farm. farm yes. zoo, not since she was a baby. so she probably wouldn't like... mhm. associate a zoo with anything right now. till we do it again. there's like a lot of like exotic animals like this time. yah. so, like weird, like zoo type of things you know? yah. did she, um, in the other sessions did she play with the food mostly? yah, she's always kinda played with the food for the most part. every now and then she'd pick up a baby. but she didn't do that this time. does she have... oh, do you need this room? oh okay. does she have any um baby dolls at home at all that she plays with? mhm. she has baby dolls, she plays. she has a stuffed animal that's her favorite that she plays with all the time. it like uh... Lotso from Toy Story.
I actually have that. that's so funny. she loves Lotso. that's cute. and you said she has two siblings? or three siblings? two... well Jillian's with us all the time. okay. um, and then her half brother is with us every other weekend. and do they play a lot together? they do, he plays more with Jillian now cause he'll share his ipad with her. [silence]. and she'll play with that, but he's good with both of them. mhm. them two play a lot together? yes. they're what, two years apart? yah, two and a half. yah, um. yah, I'm surprised she didn't ask where she was. a lot of times they're like where's xxx. I think she does having that time away. so, and Julie goes to school in the afternoons now. so she's useta being away from her half the day. true, yah. um, and then, she like to read with you a lot? I don't think... I think we had a couple books. at night we do before bed.
and like I'll let them alternate pick... I'll pick two books, and I'll let them alternate picking which one of the two we read. and she does have a couple of books she loves. yah, I think... she's always enjoyed that. I think at the last play sessions we had a bunch of books. mhm. um, does she usually like to go for those during the play sessions, like... no. she goes for the food. the food? so was this session like very different from other ones? or pretty similar? no, I think she's always kinda been drawn to the play food. and we have a play kitchen at home with a bunch of play food. that's always a favorite for the kids. um do you think she plays any different now? like any more independently? like maybe... probably a little bit more now. she's gotten a little bit more independent as she's gotten older. she's really sorta like... she definitely like takes stuff and goes off on her own with it now. yah, that's what she kept doing today, yah. um. I'm trying to think if there's anything else... was there anything else you wanted to tell me about or anything else? no, not that I can think of. she's so friendly, and she's so like she's very like interested in everything so it was easy to get through everything, so. good.
yah, had a lot of fun. okay, I guess that's it. thank you so much for coming in. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/NewmanRatner/Interviews/24/5073AC.cha = = = he can just stay there or leave the room. oh. I don't know. if you can see doesn't matter. well you know what? he probably wants to be with me. yeah. he xxx good where he is. we'll just leave him here and I'll talk a little about um. do you still want me to wear this? yeah xxx xxx. okay. okay you guys pretty much started with the book huh? yes. I think he was playing with that first maybe but... oh. we quickly went to the book. I think. uh not a scone. that was a donut. yeah um and so is this a book that you have at home? we do yes. um we haven't read it in quite awhile it was my other son's favorite book but um. they've moved on since my son is older. yeah.
he usually gets the choice. you know he has a book he just really wants read. so Asher's sorta just along for the ride. ah. um but he seems like he really knows it. yeah I mean he knows it uh... not as I mean yeah. we don't read it a lot but he does. does he have favorite pictures? yeah um in certain books mhm. no I meant in Good Night Moon actually. oh! the moon and the stars are his favorite. the moon mostly. he's really into the moon [laughs]. ah! in every way. yeah I noticed that's one of the things he picked out in the other book too. oh okay yeah he... he's a fanatic about the moon. we have lots of books on the universe and that's what he likes to point out in all the books. ah. that makes sense. and then um... he also um did a little bit of cooking. he seems tired. yeah he you know he woke up early this morning. uh he usually sleeps in two to three more hours but he actually got up at seven fifteen as opposed to ten. we're sorry. [laughing].
oh no that's fine my other son wakes up at that time so. daddy bye. daddy five ten? [laughs]. was there anything that you tried to get him interested in playing with but he didn't wanna? uh the dolls I guess. well he wanted a baby. there's a babydoll he likes to play with. at a place that I sometimes work at. hm. and um he likes to change it's clothes and stuff but. oh that's nice. he wasn't interested in the older ones. and that's interesting we have a number of them who just decide these are babies. [laughs]. because they would like to play with them. are there any toys here that are similar to what you have? at home? Melissa and Doug stuff. we have a lot of... she does it a lot faster sometimes than I do. she seems to be right I mean, I'll look " is that a boy or a girl." and she'll say " that's a boy." and I'll look closely, and say " right it is a boy!" I'm looking at too many things, and she may be looking just at the way a boy walks and a girl walks. [screaming over much of prev. text] [lena begins to cry]
[can't hear Nan's question] I can't think. we're going into winter and she has a jacket with a zipper. this sweater has a zipper in the back. so she's never I can't think of anything that she's owned recently that has had a zipper. so I couldn't tell you or not up or down is easy. [crying] she had a pretty good grasp on it but didn't know how to exert the pressure to get it up or down... when you showed her the snap, and asked her what it was she said " it's broken!" she was very good with food names... [crying] and the ice cream I put in the mugs they've had their milk in. talks about " this is for me." exchange... no. she really knows. she really uses it correctly. she says, " this is his, this is, Jeff's this is mine this is Lena's." she knows. are there some things she's beginning to get territorial about? her dollies. the other things are things nobody else would want anyway. her slippers, her nightgown, her clothes her room. she's very good about sharing. much better, as I noticed at her birt'day party than other kids her age. the concept seems to be deep and she's willing. [talks about CHI calling the whale a bird.]
the thing that occurred to me, is the whale had blue around it it looked to me to be waves, but. I looked again, and I thought " maybe you could think it was clouds..." you hadta name the mouse and turtle. does she know them or were they bad pictures? no, she knew, turtle she didn't know the mouse, and I think it's because it didn't look very much. like a mouse... I have a note here that's sort of cryptic. you asked her if she could build a tower, and she said " meow." oh, yeah! I said, did you wanna match it, match it, or something... I give up. noise is unbearable. she seems to know two in fact, she's three, because I can remember her saying that. Maura has a doll house. but she's talked a lot about a big house. the big house. there's my house when we drive past it. that's my house. and she's been playing with the bigger Lego blocks... = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/Bernstein/Interview/Amelia/amelia1.cha = = = [first session, Maternal interview] no. I don't. no Yeah, well, there is a difference in books and stuff, with boys and girls and I just usually make the distinction between a boy and a girl. yeah, I like to do that I don't think she knows any difference, I mean, they don't look any different to her, I don't think [laughs] Yeah, uh, well not many of these These pretty new ones to her, but with the things that she has at home she knows most of the different animals... she knows bird, she knows a rooster, she knows a cow, a horse, a dog, a cat An' she know pigs [laughs] Yeah those were new. she's never seen butterflies either [laughs] She looks at them a lot.
she really likes books. what she does mostly is look at them. and either you can ask her to show you what the different things are and she'll point them out to you or what she likes to do. probably more often is sit there and point to the picture. and have you tell her what it is. yeah, most of the time. she usually looks for what she wants. I use 'em both. a lot. sometimes I call them bunny rabbits, y' know I just do use them both. no. I don't think I every really thought about it [laughs]! yeah, I do, I guess. I never really thought about it much. I talk to them a lot I think probably and I usually try to I guess try to figure out what they're trying to ask me or y' know... um on her self she knows she knows all the face parts she knows her hair, her head, her arms she knows her knees, her legs, her feet, her hands um, I don't think she knows her fingers she knows her toes she knows a good many of them. yeah, just playing, but she does. um she does zippers. she likes zippers. she's always been kinda fascinated with zippers She doesn't do anything else. she doesn't do snaps or button or anything. up and down, which way? oh, I think she knows when she is somewhere, if I say to her " do you wanna get down." that it means out of where she is. down from where she is I guess she does know that. I think she does, I don't really think she knows asleep as being asleep, but she associates having your eyes closed with being asleep. and there's a cat in here that was asleep and she pointed that out. and she knows when yeah when your eyes are open, it means you're awake! yeah, um different from these, but she does have some.
um she stacks them some, but mostly what she does is put them in a bowl She likes to put them in a bowl! [foot banging over this] and knock them over... we'll, um I think dragons are a pretty distinct thing... y' know, I mean, it's like saying it's a horse or a cow, I mean it's a dragon! that's what it was [laughing]! well, if it's a dragon, it's a dragon, y' know! I think adults probably associate bad things with dragons, but... yeah. yeah I point out a lot of things to her y' know, we're usually pretty specific about what things are. I've even tried making a distinction between pigeons and other kinds of birds, but I don't think that's worked out [laughs]! um, yeah, she's probably not as specific Well, yeah she's good at it, I guess I think she does, yeah She knows arms, legs, hands feet and all the face parts. yeah, she does. yeah, well she just she kinda picks it up and um she makes like she's talking into it. The other day, I was on the phone, and she was sitting in the other room, just jabbering away! like she was talking to somebody on the phone! a lot of times she um picks up the phone and then yells for me, and passes me the phone like it's for me. yeah, yeah, she really likes playing peekaboo. she likes putting things over her face and disappearing [laughs] And coming back! are you brushing my hair? %add: chi are you brushing my hair? um No. I think they probably understand I don't think so I think they probably react a little differently um I don't know but I know that I just seem to have maybe a little different conversations with Amelia she's a little more vocal than is right now. y' know she kinda sits there like she's talking to you sometimes you know comes over and tells you a story. doesn't really do that. she does once in a while, but not like Amelia does. no, I've been reading to them a little bit but they don't pay any attention, they just wanna point out the pictures [laughs] Yeah, this one [! laughs]! that's about all she does. she does that and she points or she brings me somewhere if she wants something.
um otherwise she doesn't I don't think, have any specific sounds for specific things that I've noticed, anyway I haven't picked any up. yeah, the same way. = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/Bernstein/Interview/Amelia/amelia2.cha = = = [second session, Maternal interview] are there some of these books that are better for her stage than others? are there words in some of these books that are more familiar than some of the others? well she knows baby, and flower. and, um ducks. and birds. and she can pick those out pretty easily. she was also looking at the truck and dog and screws and sneakers and shoes and boats? house and owl, does she understand any of these words? yes, probably everything but the mouse and the owl. does she tend to say those words at home? she tries to say boat. we have a boat. so she's familiar with that. she, um, she does say dog, I guess. yeah, she does say dog. we have a dog, also, so... would you like a cat? do you know anyone who would like one? no! my mother's trying to get rid of some cats. she's always saying dam wan or du dat. is that sposta be, " what's that?" I don't know. well, I thought maybe she was saying
" another one." because I was saying that to her. y' know and I think that's something I probably say to her a lot. and she was doing that pointing to the same thing. I think she has another expression for “what's that” that sounds almost like she's saying " what's that." yeah she's always asking what things are. you know, in new books, or anything, she always points things out and wants to know what they are. you indicated that she was going to like one of those books because it had paper pages, is there any significance to that? well, they don't have any books with paper pages, and they like to do things like rip up the tv guide. and things, they like to rip up things with paper pages. has she gotten to the point where she can manipulate? she appeared to be having some difficulty with the clothing on the doll she's interested in trying it, but can she manage any of those skills on her own? she can take her clothes off. y' know she can't put anything on. but she does try to put things on... she was interested in the sneakers. yeah. they have new sneakers. and she tried to untie... yeah, she unties her shoes and takes them off. and then she comes running to you and wants them back on again? no, she usually doesn't want them back on again [laughing]. wha' d' yo' want? %add: chi this? she really got into the word flower. yeah, she's been saying flower for a long time. wha' do you want, this? %add: chi
it's not a baby, it's a boy. %add: chi looks like a baby to you, I guess. %add: chi another baby? %add: chi she's very interested in putting the dog in and out of the house. is she into putting doll furniture into houses, or anything like that? no. she really wanted to open and shut that door so much. does she do that much at home? no, she doesn't. does she understand the terms house and door? [did you kiss Amelia?] well, I don't know. she knows what house and door are at home, but I don't know if, to her, that looks like a house. or a door. she was pointing to the words on the paper. yeah, I usually point out. words, numbers that's probably why she was pointing them out. does she understand the word " words?" no, she doesn't. but she does pay selective attention to them... I think that she knows that they're different than pictures. she was really into the textures in this book here the way you can feel the face and everything she doesn't have one of these, does she? no. but this book rips apart! has she got any new routines that she didn't have the last time we talked? I don't know.
I can't think of anything, really. today she had many more words, or things that sounded closer to words, than before. does she attempt to use them with? does she talk to? she talks to, but never sounds like she's saying anything to me y' know when she tries to say things to me, sometimes they sound like words, but when she tries to say things to, they don't sound like words. they kind of babble back and forth to each other. and at this point, you would say that Amelia has a vocabulary of how many words? um, I don't know. maybe six, seven words one, two, probably has two. yeah, says Grover and = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/Bernstein/Interview/Amelia/amelia3.cha = = = [third session, Maternal interview] she has words now, doesn't she? oh, yeah, she does [laughs]! she spent a lot of time talking about the dog. and she especially mentioned the house. she has the word house, right? does she know it for real houses and play houses, does she use it consistently? well, she knows real houses she doesn't really have anything that are play houses. well, well Kristin does Kristin has a doll house that she knows. and she says what, " hau?" oh, I don't know it [laughs]. and she knows the door and everything. she wanted something to get out, or something and she said " take it out." or " it out." or something.
she says, she says a lot of things like that that sound like she's saying sentences without them being words. y' know, like she says something like " I wanna walk." and the only thing you can really understand is the walk part. she wouldn't play with the phone. no. well [laughing] there was nobody talking to her! that's interesting, because many kids prefer toy phones to real phones, real phones scare them. she doesn't have a toy phone anymore. she useta, but she doesn't any more. and, um, she's only had contact with a real phone recently. does she talk on it? she listens, She doesn't talk much, she listens more. that's the dog's. %add: chi it's funny because she said No when she picked it up. is that because there was no one there? that disturbs her apparently... well it didn't do anything, I guess for her [laughs]. she's very good at grooming the dog, Does she play at grooming animals? um, no. she brushes her own hair, I guess she brushes her doll's hair. she's really good at looking for the parts of the animal. she was good at identifying the eyes, although she got confused with the mouth. the nose, it looked just like the eyes! and she knew where to look for the mouth. and was disturbed when it wasn't there. and, I think I was really surprised when you said " Where's the tail." she went and looked right away.
we have a dog. so, I think that's probably why. ya wanna go in there? %add: chi does she play with the dog's tail? yes! she hangs onto the dog's tail and lets the dog pull her around the room! she puts the dog in the house but you don't have a doghouse for the dog? no. now, with the dragon She seemed afraid of the dragon, but then after she saw that it was her own, that she could make it move. I think she was afraid of it because it moved. uh huh, but after she put her own hand in it. yeah, then it was okay. does she have puppets at home? um no. so it's new for her to put her hand in and make something move? um they have had a puppet I can't I can't remember they really have gotten out of playing with toys. recently they go outside a lot they, um, play with cards that's their new thing, cards [laughs] And they have a peg thing, y' know, with a hammer I'm sure you've seen those, and they play with that constantly. y' know, they like things that do things... the book that pleased her the most apparently were the two books with one picture on a page. does she seem to prefer those kinds of books? yeah, that's mostly what she's got at home. although she now likes to look at magazines She likes to look for um babies in magazines. and kids. how did you get that out? that's the first time anyone got that out! I did it [laughing] The first time I could get it out, though! of the books, though, does she seem to prefer... the books she has are very simple. probably because I prefer those kind of books.
you look at books that have a cluttering of things on the pages and you can't really pick anything out. she was good at turning the pages when you asked her to. does she do that by herself? um hum. so she'll sit there and just flip through. yeah. she doesn't need help. no. I marked down here that you were supplying the words for some things, and some things she was naming for instance, you named the cat, and then later on, she named it for you can she consistently name a cat? no, she's usually very, good about it I don't know, maybe that didn't look like a cat to her at first. she picks out cats very well. she didn't name the boy and the girl. she pointed to them, but she didn't name them. no. she calls them kids. a lot of times. do you want this in? %add: chi I just had it in, and there you wanted it out. %add: chi she did notice the dogs that she had a word for... she calls the dog her name. she knows the word chair. a couple of kids her age have recently been fixated by chairs, does she enjoy climbing in and out of chairs? yes, she does. does she have her own? no just her highchair. [amelia over this.] you don't want this? %add: chi
alright, why don't you go put it away? can you go do that for me? she obviously doesn't like help getting in and out of... no! now, with the crayons, she didn't say crayons, but she knew what you did with them. does she play with them? yeah. she does. she scribbles with them. and she knows that they're for writing, do you think that was what she was saying? yeah, she was saying write that was what she was saying. with a lot of things, you were giving functions, so that with the chair and the cup, it was to sit in, and to drink milk Does she understand those functions, I mean Are you trying to add words? no, I think she understands. and she uses a cup, so she knows what it's for? yeah, she knows. I think she understands those. just pull it out, it'll come out. %add: chi another word that she had, and I wonder if it was from the summer, was hole Was she good at making holes? she likes holes. now, with the blocks. she useta just carry them around in a bowl, what does she do now? oh, yeah, she likes to stack them she likes to knock them over! so she's not just carrying them from place to place? no. she's trying to build with them? um hum. the last thing. she was noticing the cow and the bird, and then she had trouble with the whale, she thought it was a bird. and again, you said the bird is to fly.
she knows birds fly. she says that a lot. birds fly. 'cause we feed the birds and then she watches them fly away. you're gonna put the brush in there? %add: chi = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/Bernstein/Children/Gail/010900.cha = = = [first session, mother/child play session] pat the bunny. oh! you know pat the bunny! Judy can look in the mirror. now you look in the mirror. peekaboo [highpitch]! who's that? that's Ann? [(Ann is Gail's real name)] shall I just keep going? %add: NAN Judy can feel daddy's scratchy face. oh... what does that feel like? does it feel scratchy? can you say scratchy? Judy can read her book. now you read Judy's book. what happens? hear the tick tick tick, bunny? what's that?
what's 'e listening to? a clock. how big is bunny? he's so big! bunny's eating his food. right. you've already read this book before. ssh! bunny's sleeping [whisper]. can you be quiet [whispered]? yæ xxx. he's xxx sip. he's all asleep. Paul can put his finger through mommy's ring. now you put your rr finger through mommy's ring. what's what's that? oh! finger. that's all. byebye. can you say byebye? byebye [high pitch]! did you like that book? you did. what's this book? oddly enough, we have both of these books. %add: NAN this was one of her first books. what's that? okay.
what are those? what's this, Gail? what does this say? okay. you wanna play with that? what's this? okay. how many how many kittens are there? you count. how many butterflies are there? one, two, three. five. okay. what's this? cups! how many? can you count them? alright, you don't hafta. how many chairs? what's this? what are these little animals? what are they? what are these little animals? what are they? what do they say? quack, quack. what says quack, quack? oh! what's this, Gail? balloons!
do you like balloons? what's this? w' color's that [very quickly]? pretty yellow? what color's this? okay. shall I get another toy? [sounds of discomfort.] look at all those numbers [softly] oh boy [! whisper]. what would you like me to get you this time [softly]? oh, look! what's inside this little house? what's inside? can you tell me what this is? open. ha it's what is it? oh [high squeal]! what's that? what is it? look. who's this? oh. says I have so much hair. can you do something with it [fairly hi pitch]? what are you doing [more normal pitch]? are you going to make oh. you're combing your hair. 'r' gonna brush your hair. what's this animal called? what is he say, he says bowwow.
bowwow. what is it? is it a kitty cat? no. that's not a kitty cat! is it a cow? no. it's not a cow! what kind of animal is this that says bowwow? bowwow. it's a little doggie who lives in a little... are you going to make him pretty this morning? good morning! will you comb my hair [falsetto]? w'you make me all pretty? oh alright, why don't we put him away now. byebye. where's my little hair brush? I need it to keep in my little house so I can always be pretty. byebye. see ya later. can you give me a little kiss [coy voice]? thank you. [Sound of telephone] oh, Gail! what's this? what is it? what is this? telephone? what d' ya say?
who's on the telephone? [somewhat obscured by phone] oh! what is he saying? may I say hello to daddy? hi bob. how are you. hi. what time are you coming home this evening? do you wanna talk to Gail? okay, here she is. see ya later? c'n ya say " see ya later?" oh! good! oh, Gail, look! blocks! what's this letter? o bwak. can you find me a letter? what's this? [sounds of dissatisfaction] you don't wanna do letters? [Buzzing on tape] okay. let's see. what's this wonderful toy? I don't know. I really don't know what it is.
can you tell me? look, Gail. I bet if you did something like this woof. who's this? I wanna get out [deep, gruff voice] I wanna get outta here! I'm a ferocious dragon. can you open the door and let me out [voice rises out of gruff register]? please, please [higher, lighter voice]. please let me out [tremulous voice]. I'm really a nice dragon. see if we can find where the door is [normal voice]. can you find the door to let me out, please? please? grooo [enormous growl] [! makes wild noises]! oh! please let me out [pleading voice]! oh, thank you. now I can eat you up [normal intonation]. um um um um um yum um! oh [normal pitch]! oh [high pitch]! my door! oh, it's open, it's open! oh, oh [high pitch]! squeak, squeak, squeak, ouch, ouch [all high pitched]! oh, oh. my goodness. I think it's dangerous out there! I think it's dangerous out there [second time, high+pitched]! I'm really a friendly dragon [throaty voice].
will you let me out? grauauau! oh! please let me out. I'll be nice this time [high pitch]! see, I'm going to give you a kiss. oh, please let me out [pleading voice]. oh, thank you [high pitch] um dedum. yum, yum yum oh, you taste very good [more normal tone]! you taste very good. yum yum! I'm getting hungrier and... oh! oh [high pitched]! now I can't have my breakfast. oh, I'm so hungry. I wanna bite somebody [throaty voice]. I'm going to bite you! now. can you be the dragon? put your hand in there. oh oh, it's a dragon [high+pitched]. whoa [high]! what happened to the dragon, Gail [normal pitch]. can you make him come alive? y' put your hand in here. put your hand in here. now, see what the dragon does. where's your thumb? can you put your thumb?
the way you do your mittens? oh! a dragon and he's moving [exaggerated contour]! oh [squeal]! what's this? look! a piece of... what's this? what is this? is it something to eat? alright. oh, thank you for my meat! yum, yum, yum, steak. oh, uh, oh, I lost my steak, will you please get me my steak. where's the steak, Gail? oh, please, I'm so hungry! please, I want my steak [tremulous voice]. oh, oh, oh! thank you. yum, yum, yum, oh, what happened? yum, yum, yum [gruffly]. uhoh, now I'm hungry. oh, thank you. um um all gone. it's all gone. do you thank the steak's all gone [softly]? Gail [softly]? what happened? d' ya see it? why don't you open the door?
why don't you open the door and see if you can find the steak? Gail open the door, please [high pitched] please, open my door! oh, here it is. oh, oh [still hi+pitch]. thank you good bye. can you sit down please, Gail [reg.voice] [! softly]. okay! who is this? who's this? Gail, look. I think he has a zipper on him. can you undo his zipper? can you open it [softly]? can you do it [higher pitch]? what're you doing? should mommy do it for you first? now you do it. [sound of Gail straining at it] what's this, Gail? Gail? oh, look. what's he wearing on his feet? what's this little boy wearing on his feet? what do you have on your feet today? are you wearing your party shoes, Gail? %add: CHI are you wearing your party shoes? go play with mommy. what? %add: CHI
what color shoes are you wearing today? are those party shoes [fairly hi+pitch]? %add: CHI [soft] I'll close my eyes [whisper]. [Apparent adjustment of volume] how many blocks do you have? okay! another block? okay let's see if I can fix that [wh under breath]. another? okay! Gail, I think that's all we have. how many do you have? only one? can you count them? eleven blocks [appreciatively]! let's count them from here. how many is that? m is that? two? five... okay. do ya wanna play with blocks? what are ya gonna ta do? [Break to explain some procedures] oh, oh! what are ya doing? wow! oh!
very high [whisper]! do you want some help? help? alright. do you think it would help if you stood up? can you stand up? in your chair? that's alright. okay! how high? how many? do ya wanna knock them down? okay. whoa! do ya wanta put them back up again? you may get down from your chair... would you like me to pick them up? alright. how many? I'm here. okay. you play with them! there. now what are you going to do? can you tell me about it? be careful! what happened? what are ya doing? you wanna pick them up? would you like to get down?
okay. you can get down by yourself. [Gail complains.] do ya wanna go back in the chair? what? you wanna climb up? you want some help? one, two [whisper] one two [! louder] three... four [mother is surprised]! how 'bout this? what is this? think I remember. what's that, Gail [whisper]? find her? how do I find her? oh! what is it? what kind of animal is it? it is! what does the doggy say? is he hiding? find her [sings]? oh, where oh where has my little dog gone? oh where oh where can he... with his ears cut short and his tail cut... long. [not sung] oh where oh where can he... [continues to sing] bi!
[out of tune! but sung] okay, here he is! open the door! and let the doggie come... out! what's the doggie gonna say? is it a girl? doggie, or is it a boy doggie? Gail what's the doggie's name? what's the doggie's name [higher]? wanna play with something else? alright. lem' put the doggie back in the box. you want me to talk on the telephone? alright. [1w rings] hello, Isabel? oh. dear, so it was really very difficult no, I'm sorry. I'll see you tomorrow! right good bye. who are ya going ta call on the telephone? alright. okay. oh, is Jesse on the telephone? do you wanna call him up? I'll call his mother, and then you can talk to Jessie, alright? hello? sherry? can Jesse come over and play today?
Gail really wants to see him alright. we'll see you at four o'clock alright and bring Jake with you, okay? bye. see ya later oh, is Jesse right there? alright, here's Gail; she wants to say hello. here's Jesse. say hello [softly]. Matthew's mother. Matthew's mother! is that... what'd she say? would ya like to talk to daddy? on the tel'phone? alright. hello, bob? I'm calling because Gail wanted me to say hello to you and she'd like to say hi to her daddy okay? alright, here she is! c'n ya say hi, daddy [whisper]? to Eleanor? is Eleanor on the phone? oh, hi, Ellie. hi. are you late at school today? oh, okay. well, I hope to see you at supper time. alright. here's Gail; she wants to say hello... hi. [essentially expressive jargon] okay!
oh, Gail, look. ya wanna say goodbye to Eleanor now? do you wanna say goodbye to Eleanor say goodbye. okay. look what I found. you read it? what is it? can you read the book to mommy? let's start from the beginning. okay. open the book. what's this? a rabbit. um hum. okay. who's this? what's her name? Paul and... r'member [softly]? here are Paul and Judy! they can do lots of things. an' you can do lots of things. Judy can pat the... bunny? now you pat the bunny! turn the page! Judy can play... peekaboo. with... now you play...
peeka'. with... okay! peek'boo. Paul can smell the fl [sing+song]... now you smell the smell sweet? turn the page. what is Judy doing? looking in the what? what's this? do ya remember? looking in the mirror. now you look in the... okay. whom do, you see? can you tell me? who's in the mirror [gets higher]? if I look in the mirror, whom do I see? let mummie look in the mirror? oh! I don't see Gail! who's that? Anne. [Anne, the child's real name.] do you think it's Gail? look! I think it's mummie. now who is it? there's mummie! what is Judy doing?
what is she doing? is that Judy's daddy? or is that Gail's daddy? oh! and who's this? is that Gail's daddy? it is okay. what's he doing? you're scratching. what's daddy doing? 's he shaving? just like daddy. what is the bunny rabbit doing? oh! is it good? oh! whose book is this? Anne. [Anne, the child's real name.] oh. would you like to play with this l little doll? is this a girl doll or a boy doll? what is it; is it a girl or a boy? it is. okay, ya wanna play with it? what's that, Gail? can you open it? what would ya like me to do? hold on to the zipper? alright!
I pulled on the zipper! you want me to open the yellow button? oh there! can you zip the zipper back? are ya gonna button the button? where are the dolly's shoes? oh! where's his other shoe? how many shoes does he have? he has so many shoes? I think I only see how many? one... that's all. shall we tie it? can you tie it? alright [laughs] I'll tie it [! whisper] just the way I tie your shoes every morning. how's that? shall I zip him back? shall I button his button? or do you wanna button his button? close it? what did you say, dear? [softly]. %add: NAN there was a word I really don't understand there... there! shall we put his arms through his sleeves there? is he alright now; is he all dressed? can you say goodbye? can you shake his hand?
can you say " how do you do?" = = = childes/CHILDES_NA/Bernstein/Children/Gail/011100.cha = = = [second session, mother/child play session] okay! what else would you like to play with? a book? which book is this? can you tell me about the pictures? mm hm. mm! what's he doing? mm! yes! what else does he have? mm hm. how many? yes. what colors are there? colors [whisper]? what's on the blocks, Gail? what are those? he has a hat, and he has hair, and what else does he have? hands! and what's on his hands? what are these? does he have these? yes? okay.
Gail? how many puppies do you see [very precise]? doggies. how many doggies are there? kittens. can you tell me how many? um hm. can you count them for mommy? seven duckies? I see seven duckies. do you wanna find the chairs? alright, let's start from the beginning. open the book; turn the pages. tell me when you see the chairs. aren't they pretty chairs! cups and saucers! mm hm! oh, how many balloons? what pretty colors. can you tell me what colors? what about this one? what color's that? yes! an' how 'bout the crayons? can you tell me the colors on the crayons? what color [whisper]? well, that's interesting. you wanna play with something else? I'll tell you what, this time you put your hand in here and you make the dragon come alive! can you do it?
put your hand right in there whoa! what's that? it's a ferocious dragon! can you put your hand in? make him come alive? make him move? shall we open the door? oh, alright. what's happened to the door? [soft mumble] is the door stuck? oh! would you like mummie to make him come alive? alright. we can talk. what's your name [deep register]? what's your name [not as deep]? my name is Gail. how old are you [deep]? do you remember? you were playing with the toys [mostly deep]? which one did you like the best? when are you going home? where do you live [deep]? in the top? you do? you want me to go inside? oh but I'm so friendly and I'm so hungry... is that toast? oh c'n I have some more?

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