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From: dabl2@nlm.nih.gov (Don A.B. Lindbergh)
Subject: Diamond SS24X, Win 3.1, Mouse cursor
Organization: National Library of Medicine
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Anybody seen mouse cursor distortion running the Diamond 1024x768x256 driver?
Sorry, don't know the version of the driver (no indication in the menus) but it's a recently
delivered Gateway system. Am going to try the latest drivers from Diamond BBS but wondered
if anyone else had seen this.
post or email
--Don Lindbergh
dabl2@lhc.nlm.nih.gov
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From: danmg@grok85.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Daniel Adams)
Subject: Re: BMW 3 series for 94?
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In article <1qll56INNp9r@uwm.edu>, qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Aamir Hafeez Qazi) writes:
|> From article <eabu288-140493210752@dialin33635.slip.nts.uci.edu>, by eabu288@orion.oac.uci.edu (Alvin):
|> >
|> > Is there going to be a BMW 328 in 1994?
|>
|> --Could be. Isn't the 2.5 liter six supposed to be enlarged to 2.8 liters
|> in the not-too-distant future?
|>
Makes sense, since the new Mercedes Benz engines go from 2.2L-4 to a 2.8L-6.
Nothing in between. BTW, I beleive the numbers on those MB engines are
156 and 225 hp respectively. The one-upmanship in hp might induce BMW
to create a larger six. Also, the 2.6 190E has lagged behind the 3-er
2.5 for some time wrt hp. I am sure the Bavarians wouldn't want to be
"shown-up" by the Schwabians.
PS- those MB engines haven't been released over here yet.
daniel
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From: PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Subject: Re: re: fillibuster
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In article <C5ovFr.C0u@dscomsa.desy.de> hallam@dscomsa.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker) writes:
>
>In article <VEAL.740.735074621@utkvm1.utk.edu>, VEAL@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal) writes:
>
>|>>|> If the Senate was less powerful than the House of Lords, than
>|>>|>we'd almost have to state that the House of Representatives was also.
>|>>|>(In fact, they both were, because the British government had much
>|>>|>greater power than did the American system).
>|>>
>|>>In principle no, in practice yes.
>|>
>|> In principle no? That they had less power of that they should have
>|>had less power?
>
>The British parliament in principle has absolute power. So does the Monarch.
>Much of the stability of the system rests on what is not defined clearly.
>In the case of a clear abuse by one side or the other the other side
>can act to remedy the situation.
Two institutions with absolute power. Cute.
Let's talk practicality, shall we? If the Monarch tried to
do something, what would happen?
>|>>If they were to start from a social welfare model instead of the current
>|>>"no state subsidy motto" they would be better placed. As it is there is
>|>>plenty of state money being handed out. The problem is that it is
>|>>distributed on the basis of power in congress and not on the basis of
>|>>actual need.
>|>
>|> Bingo. The higher up the governmental ladder the less actual
>|>need matters, because political power can be concentrated at higher
>|>levels, while people with less cloud only find themselves reduced to
>|>in effectiveness.
>
>That was not my point.
But you illustrated the problem very well.
>|>>In order to set up a school project in New York state you have to pay off the
>|>>other 49 states with pork - defense contracts, agricultural subsidies etc.
>|>>Or to be precise 30 of the states since you need 60 to beat the filibuster.
>|>
>|> Then why not simply leave New York's education to New York? I
>|>remain unconcinved that there is any state in the Union which is not capable
>|>of educating its own children if that's what they want to do.
>
>The point is of redistribution of cash from the poor areas of the ecconomy
>to the rich ones.
I am contending that there is no state in the Union which does
not have ample wealth, if they choose to spend it, to run a perfectly
acceptable Education system. (I further contend that the amount of money
being spent now is more then sufficient, but is being spent badly.)
>Or vice versa if you aren't a Republican.
So, tell me Phill. Were the Republicans also responsible for some
of the *huge* increases in social programs? Or were they *only*
responsible for what you don't like. (I contend it is Congress which
is to blame. Democrat and Republican alike.)
>If society
>simply writes off any areas of the country that is ecconomically weak you
>end up with a basket case ecconomy. There are inevitable cycles in any
>business. Some of these act in phase to produce the "business cycle".
>Others are countercyclic. Localities can experience boom to bust cycles
>outside the national trend. To produce a strong ecconomy you need to
>ensure that the bust areas do not fall bellow the level where they
>cannot be ecconomically rebuilt.
Most of our worst areas are still better off than most of Europe.
In any case, we're talking about *education*.
>If the industry in an area collapses
>the US as a whole still has a responsibility to ensure that the children
>in that area get a good education. In some areas of the US schools are closing
>halfway through the year for lack of money.
Yes, I live in once such area. You're woefully ignorant of the
situation.
At the same time some of Tennessee's school districts are closing
down, the Governor asked for 7.5 million dollars for bicentenntial
celebration license plats. In almost the same breath he wanted to raise
unemployment compensation and reduce taxes which paid into it.
I don't know about the rest of the country, but *our* education
problems stem directly from two problems, neither of which are a lack
of money in the state. (BTW, Tennessee is considered a "tax heaven"
and our economy is one of the strongest in the country. *I* see
a correlation.) 1) What money we spend goes primarly to administration.
The average administrator makes two and a half times what the average
teacher makes, and sucks up an enormous amount of revenue. And 2)
the Governor is making a concerted effort to create an "Education crisis"
in order to push for his pet income tax. Some of the most idiotic
programs get funded (like State funds for new art in the county seat)
while schools are closing. It's not a lack of funds. It's an
unwillingness to spend them on what is more appropriate. Education
is *the* parental hot-button. Education is *always* the first to
but cut, because it's easier to get people to pay for their children
than ugly art.
>|> The U.S. Constitution is a nuts-and-bolts document. The Delcaration
>|>of Independence was the high-brow reasoning. (There are a couple of other
>|>examples, though, such as the reasoning for the power to tax, and the
>|>reasoning for the power to grant permits, both in Article I, Section 8.)
>
>The Declaration on independence cam a decade earlier and has not a line
>of justification for the US constitution. You could argue that it went
>into the broad concepts but little more.
It spoke very eloquently on government being based on the
consent of the governed.
>In fact it is little more than
>a protracted whinge. More to do with the price of tea than the design of
>a government. It would be a pretty daft idea for a bunch of guys to
>sit arround designing the structure of the new government while the little
>matter of the British army remained to be settled.
They did it anyway. The Continental Congress had its own set of
bylaws. It wasn't quite a government, but a means of making decisions
had to be created. (However low George Washington's opinion of them were.)
>|> To a certain extend I do believe the veto has become something
>|>it wasn't intended. However, I also believe it is inevitable considering
>|>the Congress' own abuse of their power to make bills say whatever they
>|>want them to say. Unlike most people I think we shouldn't be worrying
>|>about the veto, which is fine, but of the problem in Congress which
>|>almost necessitates its abuse.
>
>The Congress is the most democratic body in the whole system.
Allow me again to speak heresy against the Holy Democratic Orders.
So what? The government was built with a very non-democratic Presidency
with fairly broad powers, including the veto.
>It has not only
>the fairest system of election but the two year term means that the
>members have always got a recent mandate.
Yes, and the Senate was intended to act as a balance to this.
Too much democracy was intentionally avoided. It was considered a good
thing to place non-democratic blocks to impulsive action.
>On the other hand if the period of election were to be made 4 years in
>antiphase to the Presidential cycle there would be much less dependence
>on fund raising from special interests than there is at present.
So long as Congress has something to sell, people will pay for
it. Most congressmen rake in more money than they need.
>|> Why not? What is inherently wrong with biasing the system
>|>against action? Historically governemnt action in the U.S. when
>|>dealing with issues with a bare minority and a large minority have
>|>not been successful. When you're in a position of imposing federal
>|>power on diverse people, why should the federal government not have to
>|>got through something more than a bare majority
>
>In other words David thinks that the reactionaries should need only 41
>votes while progressives should need 61.
No, if the "progressives" don't want the "reactionaries" to move
backward, they get the same benefit. 41% of the states is a *lot* of
people. And historically laws with that sort of minority arent'
very effective, especially since it is usually geographically
concentrated.
When wielding the Federal Big Stick I don't see why they shouldn't
have to make a better argument than, "more people than not," agree.
>Now we know why nobody calls the Republicans democrats.
I'm not a Republican. I'm a republican. :-)
And no, I'm neither a Democrat nor a democrat.
Now, I've asked several times, and all you've done is answer
"It isn't democratic," which I knew before I said it. Why *should*
it be democratic? We don't have a true direct democracy, and few
people advocate one. Why, then, is this other modification of
democracy to bias it against action so much worse?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Veal Univ. of Tenn. Div. of Cont. Education Info. Services Group
PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu - "I still remember the way you laughed, the day
your pushed me down the elevator shaft; I'm beginning to think you don't
love me anymore." - "Weird Al"
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From: u895027@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (Mark Mackey)
Subject: Raytracers: which is best?
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
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Hi all!
I've just recently become seriously hooked on POV, but there are a few
thing that I want to do that POV won't do (penumbral shadows, dispersion
etc.). I was just wondering: what other shareware/freeware raytracers are
out there, and what can they do? I've heard of Vivid and Polyray and
Rayshade and so on, but I'd rather no wade through several hundred pages of
manual for each trying to work out what their capabilities are. Can anyone
help? A comparison of tracing speed between each program would also be
mucho useful.
Mark.
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Mark Mackey | Life is a terminal disease and oxygen is
mmackey@aqueous.ml.csiro.au | addictive. Are _you_ hooked?
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From: cescript@mtu.edu (Charles Scripter)
Subject: Re: Some more about gun control...
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In article <C5Bu9M.2K7@ulowell.ulowell.edu>
jrutledg@cs.ulowell.edu (John Lawrence Rutledge) wrote:
> In article <1q96tpINNpcn@gap.caltech.edu> arc@cco.caltech.edu
> (Aaron Ray Clements) writes:
> >The Second Amendment is a guarantee of the right to bear arms. Clearly
> >and unequivocally, without infringement.
> Unfortunately the Second Amendment is not as clear as you state. If last
> part of it is taken along, it follows what you have said. The problem
> I have is with the first part of the single sentence which makes up the
> amendment. The Second Amendment is:
> A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security
^^^^^^^ Militia
> of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear
^^^^^ State
> arms, shall not be infringed.
^^^^ Arms
You didn't even get the capitalization correct! Try reading USCA on
the Constitution, or get any other CORRECT version of the
Constitution.
> This mention of a well regulated militia is what confuses me. According
> to the Federalist Paper's, a well regulated militia has a well defined
> structure and follows nationally uniform regulations.
Perhaps you should actually READ the Federalist Papers!!
James Madison, Federalist Paper 46: "Besides the advantage of
being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost
every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to
which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers
are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of
ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government
of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military
establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are
carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments
are afraid to trust the people with arms."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, 8 June 1789: "The right
of the people to keep and bear... arms shall not be infringed. A
well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free
country..."
Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Paper 29 (on the organization of
the militia): "Little more can reasonably be aimed at, with
respect to the people at large, than to have them properly armed
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
and equipped; and in order to see that this be not neglected, it
will be necessary to assemble them once or twice in the course of
a year."
Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Paper 29 (speaking of standing
armies): "... if circumstances should at any time oblige the
government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be
formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large
body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^*****
own rights and those of their fellow-citizens."
***^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But *surely* Hamilton and Madison didn't mean the PEOPLE when they
said "people", right? That's why the Amendment refers to "the Right
of the Militia"?... ;-)
> Your average
> 17-45 year old male does not fall into the definition.
You're right, the Militia consists of ALL able bodied males (and
probably females under current interpretation).
> Therefore most
> members of The Militia, the one the every gun advocate refers to, are
> not members of a well organized militia and therefore are not directly
The Amendment does nor refer to "well organized", it says "well
regulated". I have some targets you may examine if you wish to check
how _well regulated_ I am.
> mentioned in the amendment.
> If this amendment wanted to allow every member of The Militia to keep
> and bear arms, why did it specificly mention a "well organized militia"
> in the SAME SENTENCE as the right to keep and bear arms?
Correct. That's why the Right is reserved to the People. And that
was to insure the People could form a "well regulated Militia", not a
"well organized militia".
> It could be
> argued that the first part of the sentence is separate from the last
> part. If so, why was it include in the same atomic unit of written
What do Atomic Units have to do with this argument? Any moron can set
h_bar = C = 1...
> instead of a separate sentence?
Oh, I see what your question is; Why don't you read the federalist
Papers?!
James Madison, Federalist Paper 41 (regarding the "General
Welfare" clause): "Nothing is more natural nor common than first
to use a general phrase, and then to explain and qualify it by a
recital of particulars."
But what does Madison know about the grammatical style of the 2nd? He
only wrote it.
> The amendment also implies that the right to arms has to due with
> the security of a free state. The Federalist Paper's mention of a
> well regulated militia gives many examples of how this militia protects
> the security of a free state. All these examples are actions of a
> very organized force, not some John Q. Public with a gun.
That's obviously because you've never actually *read* the Federalist
Papers.
> All that the Second Amendment clearly states to me is that the people's
> right to form well regulated militias shall not be infringed. That is
> people have the right to join a well organized militia. This well
> organized militia will, of course, provide training in how to use arms
> and in basic military tactics. These training members of the militia
> can keep and bear the arms.
Can't read, huh? Show me where the document says "well organized
militia".
> Lastly, reading through the Federalist Paper's on well organized
> militia it is very clear that many of the reasons for these militias.
> One reason stated is the protection from a standing army. These days
> the standing army could easily defeat a group consisting of every
> 17-45 year old male and female not in the armied forces.
That is *exactly* why EVERY PERSON should be allowed to own *any*
weapon currently in use in the armed forces.
> Another
> reason stated for well organized militias is to reduced the need
> for a standing army. Well, the US Armied Forces have been a standing
> army for more than half the history of the US.
But the major reason is to protect against that very same army.
> It seems to me the whole reason for the Second Amendment, to give
> the people protection from the US government by guaranteeing that the
> people can over through the government if necessary, is a little bit
> of an anachronism is this day and age. Maybe its time to re-think
> how this should be done and amend the constitution appropriately.
Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1861: "This
country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit
it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government,
they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or
their revolutionary right to dismember it or overthrow it."
Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, spoken during floor debate
over the Second Amendment, I Annals of Congress at 750, 17 August
1789: "What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the
establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty. ...
Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of
the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order
to raise an army upon their ruins."
So now we know which category Mr. Rutledge is in; He means to destroy
our Liberties and Rights.
--
Charles Scripter * cescript@phy.mtu.edu
Dept of Physics, Michigan Tech, Houghton, MI 49931
-------------------------------------------------------------
"...when all government... in little as in great things, shall be
drawn to Washington as the centre of all power, it will render
powerless the checks provided of one government on another and will
become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we
separated." Thomas Jefferson, 1821
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From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Re: Alaska Pipeline and Space Station!
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA
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In article <1993Apr5.160550.7592@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
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|I think this would be a great way to build it, but unfortunately
|current spending rules don't permit it to be workable. For this to
|work it would be necessary for the government to guarantee a certain
|minimum amount of business in order to sufficiently reduce the risk
|enough to make this attractive to a private firm. Since they
|generally can't allocate money except one year at a time, the
|government can't provide such a tenant guarantee.
Fred.
Try reading a bit. THe government does lots of multi year
contracts with Penalty for cancellation clauses. They just like to be
damn sure they know what they are doing before they sign a multi year
contract. THe reason they aren't cutting defense spending as much
as they would like is the Reagan administration signed enough
Multi year contracts, that it's now cheaper to just finish them out.
Look at SSF. THis years funding is 2.2 Billion, 1.8 of which will
cover penalty clauses, due to the re-design.
pat
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From: rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com
Subject: Part 1 and part 2 (re: Homosexuality)
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Tony-
I read your post, it was nothing new, I had seen much the same in other
typical"Christian" anti-gay sentimental literature. Gay people are and will
con- tinue to be persecuted as long as such propaganda petpetuates. You may
be unaware of all the statistica "findings" concerning African-Americans that
have been published and used by various groups to re-enforce their own bias
against African-Americans. We usually think of the KKK in these instances,
but there are many other groups. Of course, the vast majority of the public
scoff at such findings and documents today, but that was not always the case.
Fortunately African-Americans had "whites" who supported their 'cause' and
public sentiment was eventually (if not entirely) turned around. There was
even a Civil War, and anti-negro sentiment increased. In fact, until laws
were put in place to protect the inalienable rights of Blacks it was pretty
much legal to discriminate against them.
I know many gays and I will NOT turn my back on them or their right to be free
form discrimination. You may think that I have been deceived or something,
that is your perogative. My church, Christian Church (Disciples of Christ)
openly affirms the rights of oppressed people of all segments of society,
including gays. We believe the Gospel message of preaching to all creation
and making disciples. We believe in the Lord's great commandment to Love,
and we beleive in standing up for the oppressed, even if it is not popular
to do so. I really like my church for last reason the most. I can find a
church almost anywhere in the valley that stands for the Gospel and believes
in the commandment of Love (though I'm hard-pressed to find many who actually
sho Love), but not many are willing to champion the oppressed, especially
within their own community. I may have lost face with the greater Christian
community for the unpopularity of my beliefs, but so did the abolitionists
against the oppression of African-Americans. Many were even killed and
treated as runaway slaves for being "nigger-lovers" and such. I guess I've
decided the challenge is worth it.
In my talks with gay men and women I have heard tragic story after tragic
story centering around failed marriages, wives and husbands who are straight
who have been hurt in the process, etc. Funny thing is, I don't know of one
case where the parents, ex-wives, or even children have continued to reject
their gay family member (son, daughter, ex-husband, father, etc.) after they
began to take part in some form of support group, like PFLAG.
I'm apalled by the legislation which passed in Colorado, and am equally out0
raged that such slimey people as Louis Sheldon (from the Tradition Values
Coalition) have been actively working in the Christian underground to garner
support within several (8 I believe) states this coming November for more
oppressive legisation against gays.
Perhaps you don't get it, and maybe you never will. Many didn't get it in the
Middle Ages and the proclaimed God's will be done as they massacred thousands
in witch hunts and inquisitions.
The message that comes through, loud and clear, by proponents against gay
rights and against gays in general, is that there is a strong dislike, even
hatred for gays, whether you want to call it such or not (it doesn't change
the results). The major flaw in all this posturing is that in the end, the
final effect of posts like that of yours and Mr. Hudson is that YOU have a
"conditional" love for gays. Condition: Change and we'll love you. This is
sure strange coming from a group who claim that God has an "unconditional"
love, one that calls people "just as they are." Sure there are things that
will 'naturally' change, and habits (like alcoholism, wife beating, etc.) that
need to be changed through some sort of therapy. But then there are things
like left-handedness, etc. that no amount of beating it out of people, is
going to result in anything more than an outward conforminty to "other
people's expectations." In the process this coerced conformity causes many
people a great deal of harm, especially when it is caused by people who have
nothing more to gain from it that to become even more puffed up about their
own sense of pseuper-spirituality.
This is sad, but I thoroughly believe that one day it will change. It may be
unpopular to cry for justice and equality when the basis has to do with
something very personal like 'sexuality' (a taboo subject even today), but I
firmly believe in the rights of individuals to be free from impose regulation
on thier bedrooms. It's funny that most straight people have successfully
removed restrictive and oppressive legislation against invasive legislation,
but we like to maintain this little chestnut of repression...as though it
helps us maintain a sense of superiority over at least one segment of society.
Gay people are not criminals.
Another interesting thing happened recently. A very prominent charismatic
church in the Silicon Valley (here) had two of it's pastors arrested for self-
admitted charges of pederasty (men having sex with boys). This had apparently
been going on for some time (a couple years?), but since the charges were
voluntary, and the church worked closely with the police, so I imagine that
was how they managed to downplay it in the media. How could such a thing
happen when the church, itself, has an ex-gay ministry? One of my friends
recently told me he was "approached" by someone who is going through the
reparitive therapy there, and he was thoroughly convinced that the request for
dinner was not an invitation to attend the ministry.
These are difficult times we live in, but providing hostile environments and
creating and perpetuating an atmosphere that breed hate and violence is not
the call of the Christian community. The results of the passing amendment in
Colorado has created an organization who's posters are appearing all over
Colorado called "S.T.R.A.I.G.H.T." (I forget the whole definition off hand,
but the last part was Against Immoral Gross Homosexual Trash) and their motto
is "Working for a fag-free America" with an implicit advocation for violence.
This is sick, and it seems to be what you and Mr. Hudson, and others are
embracing.
We Christians have a LOOOOOOOOOONG tradition of coersion and oppression
towards those we feel don't 'measure up', and constant beratement from
organizations like The Christian Research Institute, while they do have a good
purpose also, their major work seems to be finding new and better ways of
excluding people.
The Gospel I believe is not so negative, rather it seeks ways to "include"
people. I have several of Dr. Martin's books and find them quite helpful,
especially concerning 'cults.' But it seems that CRI, has become a cult unto
itself. Why don't we just stick to the positive and find ways to bring people
to Jesus istead of taking bullwhips and driving them away?
Whatever
Rich :-(
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From: phs431d@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: Re: The arrogance of Christians
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In article <Apr.13.00.08.47.1993.28427@athos.rutgers.edu>, hayesstw@risc1.unisa.ac.za (Steve Hayes) writes:
>
> Say, for example, there are people living on a volcanic island, and a group
> of geologists determine that a volcano is imminent. They warn the people on
> the island that they are in danger, and should leave. A group of people on
> the island is given the task of warning others of the danger.
>
> They believe the danger is real, but others may not.
>
> Does that mean that the first group are NECESSARILY arrogant in warning
> others of the danger? Does it mean that they are saying that their beliefs
> are correct, and all others are false?
But what if the geologists are wrong and these people are warning of a
non-existent danger? Analogies can only push an argument so far (on both
sides). Both Melinda's and yours assume the premises used to set up your
respective analogies are true and thus the correct conclusion will arise.
The important point to note is the different directions both sides come from.
Christians believe they know the TRUTH and thus believe they have the right
(and duty) to tell the TRUTH to all.
Christians can get offended if others do not believe (what is self-evidently
to them) the TRUTH. Non-christians do not believe this is the TRUTH and get
offended at them because they (christians) claim to know the TRUTH.
(BTW this argument goes for anyone, I am not just bagging christians)
Neither side can be really reconciled unless one of the parties changes their
mind. As Melinda pointed out, there is no point in arguing along these lines
because both approach from a different premise. A more useful line of
discussion is WHY people believe in particular faiths.
Personally, I don't mind what anyone believes as long as they allow me mine
and we can all live peacefully.
> Steve Hayes, Department of Missiology & Editorial Department
--
Don Lowe, Department of Physics, Monash University,
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, 3168.
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From: dcoleman@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu (Daniel M. Coleman)
Subject: Re: Do the 2MB ATI Ultra Pro 16 and 24 bit Windows Drivers Work?
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Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
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In article <87402@ut-emx.uucp>, reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali) writes:
> Hi there. We just bought a 486 DX2/66 Gateway system with a 2 meg ATI
> Ultra Pro video card. Everything seems to work fine except for the
> Windows Drivers for 800x600 24 bit, and 800x600 and 1024x768 16 bit
> modes. The fonts and icons start deteriorating after windows startup,
> and within minutes of use, everything on the screen is totally
> unintelligible. Naturally, I called Gateway tech support to inquire
> about this. The technician asked me about the drivers, and I told him it
> was version 1.5, build 59. He told me that the 16 and 24 bit drivers for
> the ATI Ultra Pro simply do not work!!! Is this true? If so, I'm simply
> amazed. How could this be? The strange thing is I would have expected
> to see some discussion on here (unless the subject has made the FAQ!!!).
>
> One very suspicious point that came up later was that he stated that none
> of the Windows Accelerator boards have working 16 and/or 24 bit drivers
> for Windows 3.1. I easily challenged him on that because I've been
> running a Diamond 24x in 15 bit mode at home for 4 months now, and I have
> tested and used the 24 bit mode as well. He then backed off and said:
> "Well, Diamond has been working on those drivers much longer." Anyway, I
> just wanted to see if anyone else had any trouble and what they did about
> it. Any feedback will be appreciated.
>
> The system configuration is:
>
> Gateway 486 DX2/66 Local Bus
> 16 Megs Ram
> SCSI HD & CD-ROM
> Ultrastor 34F Local Bus SCSI controller
> ATI Ultra Pro Local Bus with 2MB VRAM
> DOS 6.0
> Windows 3.1
> Mach 32 drivers version 1.5 (build 59)
I have been able to successfully use both 16 and 24 bit color modes on my
Gateway system, although my setup is less complicated than yours. It sounds as
if you may have a hardware conflict or problem. Is your memory aperture above
16M? I have heard rumors of incompatibilities with that SCSI card with a
variety of systems. Call up Gateway and give them hell until they help you
fix it.
Dan
--
Daniel Matthew Coleman | Internet: dcoleman@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu
-----------------------------------+---------- : dcoleman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
The University of Texas at Austin | DECnet: UTXVMS::DCOLEMAN
Electrical/Computer Engineering | BITNET: DCOLEMAN@UTXVMS [.BITNET]
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From: gary@colossus.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Subject: Re: The Slaughter
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Lines: 16
[followups to talk.politics.guns]
rl> Russell Lawrence
kr> Karl Rominger
kr> I support the right of any citizen with out a criminal history to own and
use firearms, regardless of race, gender, and RELIGION.
rl> Thanks for admitting that you, yourself, adhere to an illogical dogma.
Well, folks in t.p.guns, want to show how Russell's "illogical dogma" is
wrong?
--
Gary Strand Opinions stated herein are mine alone and are
strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu not representative of NCAR, UCAR, or the NSF
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From: music@erich.triumf.ca (FRED W. BACH)
Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)...
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
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Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: erich.triumf.ca
Keywords: BRICK, TRUCK, DANGER
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
In article <C5JoIt.E31@bcstec.ca.boeing.com>, neil@bcstec.ca.boeing.com
(Neil Williams) writes...
#
#As long as we're on the subject... Several years ago myself and two others
#were riding in the front of a Toyota pickup heading south on Interstate 5
#north of Seattle, WA. Someone threw a rock of an overpass and hit our
#windshield. Not by accident I'm sure, it was impossible to get up to the
#overpass quickly to see who did it. We figured it was kids, reported it and
#left.
#A couple of years ago it happend again and killed a guy at my company. He was
#in his mid-fourties and left behind a wife and children. Turned out there was
#a reformatory for juviniles a few blocks away. They caught the 14 year old
#that did it. They put a cover over the overpass, what else could they do?
#I don't think I'll over forget this story.
#Neil Williams, Boeing Computer Services, Bellevue WA.
#..
#
Neil, what did they do to the 14-year-old who they caught? What did
the man's insurance company do? This could be significant and in any case
very interesting.
Followups to alt.parents-teens.
Fred W. Bach , Operations Group | Internet: music@erich.triumf.ca
TRIUMF (TRI-University Meson Facility) | Voice: 604-222-1047 loc 327/278
4004 WESBROOK MALL, UBC CAMPUS | FAX: 604-222-1074
University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., CANADA V6T 2A3
These are my opinions, which should ONLY make you read, think, and question.
They do NOT necessarily reflect the views of my employer or fellow workers.
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From: wingo%cspara.decnet@Fedex.Msfc.Nasa.Gov
Subject: Re: NASA "Wraps"
Organization: University of Houston
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Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
In article <1993Apr18.034101.21934@iti.org>, aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes...
>In article <17APR199316423628@judy.uh.edu> wingo%cspara.decnet@Fedex.Msfc.Nasa.Gov writes:
>
>>I don't care who told you this it is not generally true. I see EVERY single
>>line item on a contract and I have to sign it. There is no such thing as
>>wrap at this university.
>
>Dennis, I have worked on or written proposals worth tens of millions
>of $$. Customers included government (including NASA), for profit and
>non-profit companies. All expected a wrap (usually called a fee). Much
>of the work involved allocating and costing the work of subcontractors.
>The subcontractors where universities, for-profits, non-profits, and
>even some of the NASA Centers for the Commercialization of Space. ALL
>charged fees as part of the work. Down the street is one of the NASA
>commercialization centers; they charge a fee.
>
You totally forgot the original post that you posted Allen. In that post
you stated that the "wrap" was on top of and in addition to any overhead.
Geez in this post you finally admit that this is not true.
>Now, I'm sure your a competent engineer Dennis, but you clearly lack
>experience in several areas. Your posts show that you don't understand
>the importance of integration in large projects. You also show a lack
>of understanding of costing efforts as shown by your belief that it
>is reasonable to charge incremental costs for everything. This isn't
>a flame, jsut a statement.
Come your little ol buns down here and you will find out who is doing
what and who is working on integration. This is simply an ad hominum
attack and you know it.
>
>Your employer DOES charge a fee. You may not see it but you do.
>
Of course there is a fee. It is for administration. Geez Allen any
organization has costs but there is a heck of a difference in legitimate
costs, such as libraries and other things that must be there to support
a program and "wrap" as you originally stated it.You stated that wrap
was on top of all of the overhead which a couple of sentences down you
say is not true. Which is it Allen?
>>>Sounds like they are adding it to their overhead rate. Go ask your
>>>costing people how much fee they add to a project.
>
>>I did they never heard of it but suggest that, like our president did, that
>>any percentage number like this is included in the overhead.
>
>Well there you are Dennis. As I said, they simply include the fee in
>their overhead. Many seoparate the fee since the fee structure can
>change depending on the customer.
>
As you have posted on this subject Allen, you state that wrap is over and
above overhead and is a seperate charge. You admit here that this is wrong.
Nasa has a line item budget every year. I have seen it Allen. Get some
numbers from that detailed NASA budget and dig out the wrap numbers and then
howl to high heaven about it. Until you do that you are barking in the wind.
>>No Allen you did not. You merely repeated allegations made by an Employee
>>of the Overhead capital of NASA.
>
>Integration, Dennis, isn't overhead.
>
>>Nothing that Reston does could not be dont
>>better or cheaper at the Other NASA centers where the work is going on.
>
Integration could be done better at the centers. Apollo integration was
done here at Msfc and that did not turn out so bad. The philosophy of
Reston is totally wrong Allen. There you have a bunch of people who are
completely removed from the work that they are trying to oversee. There
is no way that will ever work. It has never worked in any large scale project
that it was ever tried on. Could you imagine a Reston like set up for
Apollo?
>Dennis, Reston has been the only NASA agency working to reduce costs. When
>WP 02 was hemoraging out a billion $$, the centers you love so much where
>doing their best to cover it up and ignore the problem. Reston was the
>only place you would find people actually interested in solving the
>problems and building a station.
>
Oh you are full of it Allen on this one. I agree that JSC screwed up big.
They should be responsible for that screw up and the people that caused it
replaced. To make a stupid statement like that just shows how deep your
bias goes. Come to MSFC for a couple of weeks and you will find out just
how wrong you really are. Maybe not, people like you believe exactly what
they want to believe no matter what the facts are contrary to it.
>>Kinda funny isn't it that someone who talks about a problem like this is
>>at a place where everything is overhead.
>
>When you have a bit more experience Dennis, you will realize that
>integration isn't overhead. It is the single most important part
>of a successful large scale effort.
>
I agree that integration is the single most important part of a successful
large scale effort. What I completly disagree with is seperating that
integration function from the people that are doing the work. It is called
leadership Allen. That is what made Apollo work. Final responsibility for
the success of Apollo was held by less than 50 people. That is leadership
and responsibility. There is neither when you have any organization set up
as Reston is. You could take the same people and move them to JSC or MSFC
and they could do a much better job. Why did it take a year for Reston to
finally say something about the problem? If they were on site and part of the
process then the problem would have never gotten out of hand in the first place.
There is one heck of a lot I do not know Allen, but one thing I do know is that
for a project to be successful you must have leadership. I remember all of the
turn over at Reston that kept SSF program in shambles for years do you? It is
lack of responsibility and leadership that is the programs problem. Lack of
leadership from the White House, Congress and at Reston. Nasa is only a
symptom of a greater national problem. You are so narrowly focused in your
efforts that you do not see this.
>>Why did the Space News artice point out that it was the congressionally
>>demanded change that caused the problems? Methinks that you are being
>>selective with the facts again.
>
>The story you refer to said that some NASA people blamed it on
>Congress. Suprise suprise. The fact remains that it is the centers
>you support so much who covered up the overheads and wouldn't address
>the problems until the press published the story.
>
>Are you saying the Reston managers where wrong to get NASA to address
>the overruns? You approve of what the centers did to cover up the overruns?
>
No, I am saying that if they were located at JSC it never would have
happened in the first place.
>>If it takes four flights a year to resupply the station and you have a cost
>>of 500 million a flight then you pay 2 billion a year. You stated that your
>>"friend" at Reston said that with the current station they could resupply it
>>for a billion a year "if the wrap were gone". This merely points out a
>>blatent contridiction in your numbers that understandably you fail to see.
>
>You should know Dennis that NASA doesn't include transport costs for
>resuply. That comes from the Shuttle budget. What they where saying
>is that operational costs could be cut in half plus transport.
>
>>Sorry gang but I have a deadline for a satellite so someone else is going
>>to have to do Allen's math for him for a while. I will have little chance to
>>do so.
>
>I do hope you can find the time to tell us just why it was wrong of
>Reston to ask that the problems with WP 02 be addressed.
>
I have the time to reitereate one more timet that if the leadership that is
at reston was on site at JSC the problem never would have happened, totally
ignoring the lack of leadership of congress. This many headed hydra that
has grown up at NASA is the true problem of the Agency and to try to
change the question to suit you and your bias is only indicative of
your position.
Dennis, University of Alabama in Huntsville
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From: zyeh@caspian.usc.edu (zhenghao yeh)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup Split
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: caspian.usc.edu
In article <1quvdoINN3e7@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>, tdawson@engin.umich.edu (Chris Herringshaw) writes:
|> Concerning the proposed newsgroup split, I personally am not in favor of
|> doing this. I learn an awful lot about all aspects of graphics by reading
|> this group, from code to hardware to algorithms. I just think making 5
|> different groups out of this is a wate, and will only result in a few posts
|> a week per group. I kind of like the convenience of having one big forum
|> for discussing all aspects of graphics. Anyone else feel this way?
|> Just curious.
|>
|>
|> Daemon
|>
I agree with you. Of cause I'll try to be a daemon :-)
Yeh
USC
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From: bgardner@pebbles.es.com (Blaine Gardner)
Subject: Re: FJ1100/1200 Owners: Tankbag Suggestions Wanted
Nntp-Posting-Host: 130.187.85.70
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Lines: 13
In article <1993Apr20.195116.10738@ncsu.edu> martenm@chess.ncsu.edu (Mark Marten) writes:
>
>I am looking for a new tank bag now, and I wondered if you, as follow
>FJ1100/1200 owners, could make some suggestions as to what has, and has
>not worked for you. If there is already a file on this I apologize for
>asking and will gladly accept any flames that are blown my way!
With the FJ's large, flat gas tank, I'd imagine that almost anything
would work. Personally, I'm quite happy with my Eclipse standard tank
bag.
--
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland
bgardner@dsd.es.com
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From: starowl@bolero.rahul.net (Michael D. Adams)
Subject: Re: California Insurance Commissioner Endorses Federal Legislation to Protect Consumers from Scam Insurance Companies
Article-I.D.: rahul.C51D0n.3Fw
Reply-To: starowl@a2i.rahul.net
Organization: D Service Actuarial Consulting
Lines: 12
Nntp-Posting-Host: bolero
X-Header: IGNORE ignore Ignore IgNoRe this line
rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard Warner) writes:
>Very simple. An 'Insurance Commissioner' is a bureaucrat - a regulator.
>It is his/her duties to make rules to enforce laws.
...and to make life difficult for us actuaries..... :-/
--
Michael D. Adams (starowl@a2i.rahul.net) Champaign, IL / southeast AL
"THRUSH believes in the two-party system: The masters and the slaves."
-- Napoleon Solo (from The Man from U.N.C.L.E)
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From: qtm2w@virginia.edu (Quinn T. McCord)
Subject: Seven castaways w. Gilligan=Seven Deadly Sins
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 7
Gilligan = Sloth
Skipper = Anger
Thurston Howell III = Greed
Lovey Howell = Gluttony
Ginger = Lust
Professor = Pride
Mary Ann = Envy
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From: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Responses to Ed's Top Ten Lists
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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Reply-To: an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu
In a previous article, mconners@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Conners) says:
>In article <C4zrEH.C7s@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) write
>s:
>
>The real question: Should the Feds bail-out Steve Jobs & NeXT (a la Chrysler)
>so that important manufacturing jobs wouldn't be lost?
No. The REAL question: Should the Feds bail-out IBM ( a la Chrysler )
so that important $80K manufacturing jobs wouldn't be lost?
It could be part of the "Jobs Bill"
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From: silver@xrtll.uucp (Hi Ho Silver)
Subject: Re: Who was or what is MIATA, as used in the Mazda Miata?
Organization: What you won't find on my desk.
Lines: 20
Sayeth sjwyrick@lbl.gov (Steve Wyrick):
$Anybody keeping track of how many of these there are? So far I have
$Miata, Tredia, Previa, Sentra, Maxima, Altima, Camry, and Justy, not to
$mention Lexus, Acura and Infiniti!
You're apparently including names that are, or appear to be,
derivatives of real words in English or some other language (e.g.
Acura, Infiniti, Maxima, Altima), in which case you missed ones such
as Integra, Supra, Allante', Capri and Calibra. In Canada, add Serenia and
Precidia. If you count misspellings, add Protege and (in Canada)
Vigor. How about the forthcoming Mondeo, if it is given that name
in North America?
Others might include Celica, Corolla, Paseo, and Tercel. In Canada,
add Asu"na.
--
|I know that sometimes my jaw clicks when I eat. Void where prohibited.|
|Have you seen this boy? Lust never sleeps. I say hurl. Honey, I'm |
|home. _________________________________________________________________|
|_____/ silver@bokonon.UUCP ...!{uunet|becker|xrtll}!bokonon!silver |
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From: cs3sd3ae@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Holly KS)
Subject: Eric Bosco where are you?!
Nntp-Posting-Host: maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Distribution: usa
Lines: 4
Eric, send me email with your address, I lost it! I've reconsidered!
Kevin
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Subject: Re: Death Penalty (was Re: Political Athei
From: sham@cs.arizona.edu (Shamim Zvonko Mohamed)
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson
Lines: 29
In article <1993Apr19.151120.14068@abo.fi> MANDTBACKA@FINABO.ABO.FI (Mats Andtbacka) writes:
>In <930419.125145.9O3.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew writes:
>> I wonder if Noam Chomsky is reading this?
>
> I could be wrong, but is he actually talking about outright
>_government_ control of the media, aka censorship?
>
> If he doesn't, any quick one-stop-shopping reference to his works
>that'll tell me, in short, what he _does_ argue for?
"Manufacturing Consent," a film about the media. You alternative movie source
may have this; or to book it in your local alternative theatre, contact:
FILMS TRANSIT * INTERNATIONAL SALES
Jan Rofekamp
402 Notre Dame E.
Montreal, Quebec
Canada H2Y 1C8
Tel (514) 844-3358 * Fax (514) 844-7298
Telex 5560074 Filmtransmtl
(US readers: call Zeitgeist Films at 212 274 1989.)
-s
--
Shamim Mohamed / {uunet,noao,cmcl2..}!arizona!shamim / shamim@cs.arizona.edu
"Take this cross and garlic; here's a Mezuzah if he's Jewish; a page of the
Koran if he's a Muslim; and if he's a Zen Buddhist, you're on your own."
Member of the League for Programming Freedom - write to lpf@uunet.uu.net
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From: rkimball@athena.qualcomm.com (Robert Kimball)
Subject: VLB bus master problem?
Summary: Is there a problem with VLB and bus master devices?
Keywords: VLB Bus Master Controller SCSI
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
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Nntp-Posting-Host: athena.qualcomm.com
I am trying to put together a new PC with VESA Local Bus. I would like
to get VLB cards for Video and SCSI but I have heard of a problem with
bus mastering controllers on VLB. Something to the effect that they will
actually slow down a system. Anyone heard of this problem?
Specifically, I am interested in the Ultrastor 34F VLB SCSI controller.
Before I shell out the bucks for this thing I would like to get the
straight scoop from someone who knows. Does anyone have this controller?
Any problems with it?
--
Bob Kimball
rkimball@qualcomm.com
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From: noye@midway.uchicago.edu (vera shanti noyes)
Subject: Re: An agnostic's question
Reply-To: noye@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Lines: 23
perhaps you can tell your friend that you feel pressured by his
continual discussions of this topic -- surely he doesn't feel you
should be _pressured_ into something you feel uncomfortable about
(since christianity should be a choice one should make on one's own).
please also realize that he is doing this out of friendship -- he
probably feels you are missing out on something great, and wants to
tell you about it. but since you know where you can learn about
christianity, you can tell him that it is now up to you to make that
choice, and if the choice is no, you should be respected for that.
personally i believe that a christian's mission is just to be
christ-like, showing his/her own faith and happiness in that faith,
and make sure people know they are welcome to talk to you about it. i
do not believe in imposing your beliefs upon others -- but then again
everyone's definitions of "imposing" may differ.
i hope i have made myself clear.... if not, please correct me!
:) vera
*******************************************************************************
I am your CLOCK! | I bind unto myself today | Vera Noyes
I am your religion! | the strong name of the | noye@midway.uchicago.edu
I own you! | Trinity.... | no disclaimer -- what
- Lard | - St. Patrick's Breastplate | is there to disclaim?
*******************************************************************************
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From: craig@monster.apd.saic.com (Craig Lewis)
Subject: Re: Please Refresh On Internet Access To CompuServe
Organization: SAIC, Reston, VA
Lines: 31
cheong@solomon.technet.sg (SCSTECH admin) writes:
>Hi,
>sometime ago there are some discussions on gaining CompuServe access thru
>the Internet. But I seem to misplace those articles. Can someone please
>refresh me where (which site) I can telnet to to gain access.
Try telnet 128.196.128.234, login TO_CSERVE
This will get you into the CompuServe network. Enter hostname CIS and you'll get
the UserID prompt.
>Hopefully I can download files as well.
I haven't, if you can figure it out let me know. Also, let me know if your
backspace key works :)
>Thanks,
>Arthur Lim
>Email : arthur@mailhost.scs.com.sg
--------------------------
Craig Lewis
SAIC
703-318-4756
craig@monster.apd.saic.com
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From: solmstead@PFC.Forestry.CA (Sherry Olmstead)
Subject: Re: Heat Shock Proteins
Nntp-Posting-Host: pfc.pfc.forestry.ca
Reply-To: solmstead@PFC.Forestry.CA
Organization: Forestry Canada (Pacific Forestry Centre)
Lines: 25
rousseaua@immunex.com writes about heat shock proteins (HSP's) and DNA.
I hate to be derogatory, but in this case I think it's warranted.
HSP's are part of the cellular response to stress. The only reason they
are called 'heat shock proteins' is because they were first demonstrated
using heat shock. Dead tissue (ie. meat) is not going to produce ANY
protein- because it's DEAD!
Also, who cares if the DNA you are ingesting is mutated!? It will be
completely digested in your stomach, which is about pH 2.
Some of you worry WAY too much. Eat a healthy, balanced diet and relax.
My advice is, if you don't know what you are talking about, it is better
to keep your mouth shut than to open it and remove all doubt about your
ignorance. Don't speculate, or at least get some concrete information
before you do!
Sherry Olmstead
Biochemist
SHERRY OLMSTEAD Title: Lab Technician
Forestry Canada Phone: (604) 363-0600
Victoria, B.C. Internet: SOLMSTEAD@A1.PFC.Forestry.CA
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From: E.J. Draper <draper@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu>
Subject: Re: Do we need a Radiologist to read an Ultrasound?
Organization: U.T.M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
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Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rpidev2.mda.uth.tmc.edu
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
X-XXMessage-ID: <A7FAC234C902019A@rpidev2.mda.uth.tmc.edu>
X-XXDate: Wed, 21 Apr 93 15:19:48 GMT
In article <9551@blue.cis.pitt.edu> Kenneth Gilbert, kxgst1+@pitt.edu
writes:
>This is one of those sticky areas of medicine where battles frequently
>rage. With respect to your OB, I suspect that she has been certified in
>ultrasound diagnostics, and is thus allowed to use it and bill for its
>use. Many cardiologists also use ultrasound (echocardiography), and are
>in fact considered by many to be the 'experts'. I am not sure where OBs
>stand in this regard, but I suspect that they are at least as good as the
>radioligists (flame-retardant suit ready).
If it were my wife, I would insist that a radiologist be involved in the
process. Radiologist are intensively trained in the process of
interpreting diagnostic imaging data and are aware of many things that
other physicians aren't aware of. Would you want a radiologist to
deliver your baby? If you wouldn't, then why would you want a OB/GYN to
read your ultrasound study?
In my opinion the process should involve a OB/GYN and a radiologist.
|E|J- ED DRAPER
rEpar|D|<- Radiologic/Pathologic Institute
The University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
draper@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu
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From: music@erich.triumf.ca (FRED W. BACH)
Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)...
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Lines: 33
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
In article <NEILSON.93Apr15135919@seoul.mpr.ca>, neilson@seoul.mpr.ca (Robert Neilson) writes...
#[sorry for the 0 auto content, but ... ]
#
#> That is why low-abiding citizens should have the power to protect themselves
#> and their property using deadly force if necessary anywhere a threat is
#> imminent.
#>
#> Steve Heracleous
#
#You do have the power Steve. You *can* do it. Why don't you? Why don't you
#go shoot some kids who are tossing rocks onto cars? Make sure you do a good
#job though - don't miss - 'cause like they have big rocks - and take it from
#me - those kids are mean.
This last comment was obviously a bit cynical, but a true statement of
the attitude of some drivers (there's your "autos" content), I would say.
What law-abiding (not "low-abiding" as above (talk about Freudian slips!))
citizens have the right and responsibility to do is try to PREVENT this
type of behaviour in children. A doctor may have to use "deadly force"
against a part of a body (like amputating it) when an infection/disease
has gone too far. But his real desire would have been to *prevent* the
disease in the first place or at least nip it in the bud.
Followups should go to alt.parents-teens
Fred W. Bach , Operations Group | Internet: music@erich.triumf.ca
TRIUMF (TRI-University Meson Facility) | Voice: 604-222-1047 loc 327/278
4004 WESBROOK MALL, UBC CAMPUS | FAX: 604-222-1074
University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., CANADA V6T 2A3
These are my opinions, which should ONLY make you read, think, and question.
They do NOT necessarily reflect the views of my employer or fellow workers.
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From: koops@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Luke Koops)
Subject: Speaker design software?
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Summary: Searching for speaker deisn software/shareware/freeware
Keywords: speaker, design, software
Nntp-Posting-Host: obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca
Lines: 13
Hi. I'm looking for software to aid a friend of mine with designing speakers.
Does this type of software exist? If anyone can point me toward a shareware or
freeware product with this description, that would be ideal.
...Steve van der Burg (using a friend's account)
(p.s. Excuse the terseness of the message; I'm having difficulty stringing
readable sentences together today, for some reason.)
--
-Luke Koops
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From: eder@hsvaic.boeing.com (Dani Eder)
Subject: Re: Vandalizing the sky.
Organization: Boeing AI Center, Huntsville, AL
Lines: 18
Re: Space billboards
Even easier to implement than writing messages on the Moon, once upon
a time a group of space activists I belonged to in Seattle considered
a "Goodyear Blimp in orbit". The idea was to use a large structure
that could carry an array of lights like the Goodyear Blimp has.
Placed in a low Earth orbit of high inclination, it could eventually
be seen by almost everyone on Earth. Only our collective disapproval
of cluttering up space with such a thing stopped us from pursuing
it. It had quite feasible economics, which I will not post here
because I don't want to encourage the idea (if you want to do such
a thing, go figure it out for yourself).
Dani Eder
--
Dani Eder/Meridian Investment Company/(205)464-2697(w)/232-7467(h)/
Rt.1, Box 188-2, Athens AL 35611/Location: 34deg 37' N 86deg 43' W +100m alt.
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: Young Catchers
Article-I.D.: cs.1993Apr6.185951.19058
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Lines: 17
In article <mssC52rIL.8E0@netcom.com> mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer) writes:
> Your speculation (and
>others) that Lopez will produce better than the two proven veterans
>is nothing more than speculation, no matter how well founded.
Your speculation that the two proven veterans will produce better
than Lopez is also no more than speculation. It *does* make
a difference whether the speculation is well-founded or not.
>Obviously, the Braves believe they can win with the catching they
>have, and I agree. If they change their minds, they'll call up Lopez.
Though this is a good point. The one speculation is "safer",
because it can be reversed.
Cheers,
-Valentine
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From: marc@tanda.isis.org (Marc Thibault)
Subject: Re: Don't fight Clipper Chip, subvert or replace it !
Reply-To: marc@tanda.isis.org
Distribution: na
Organization: Thibault & Friends
Lines: 10
In article <ygoland.735123994@wright>
(The Jester) writes:
> Proof Windows is a Virus:It is very widespread, It eats up your disk
> space, It slows down your computer, It takes control over your
> computer, It performs disk access at random times, It displays silly
> messages on your screen, It randomly crashes the computer-Vesselin
This sounds like a version Unix. Solaris?
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From: markl@hunan.rastek.com (Mark Larsen)
Subject: Re: Ray tracer for ms-dos?
Organization: Rastek Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Lines: 32
In article <1r1cqiINNje8@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> tdawson@llullaillaco.engin.umich.edu (Chris Herringshaw) writes:
>
>Sorry for the repeat of this request, but does anyone know of a good
>free/shareware program with which I can create ray-traces and save
>them as bit-mapped files? (Of course if there is such a thing =)
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Daemon
There are 2 books published by M&T BOOKS that come with C source code on
floppies. They are:
Programming In 3 Dimensions, 3-D Graphics, Ray Traycing, and Animation
by: Christopher D. Watkins and Larry Sharp.
Photorealism and Ray Tracing in C
by: Christopher D. Watkins, Stephen B. Coy, and Mark Finlay.
I have the first book and it is a great intro to 3-D, Ray Tracing and
Animation. Most of the programs are on the disk compiled and ready to run.
I have only glanced at the second book but it also appears to be good.
Hope this helps!
Mark Larsen
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
markl@hunan.rastek.com
"This R2 unit has a bad motivator!"
- Luke, Star Wars
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From: revdak@netcom.com (D. Andrew Kille)
Subject: Re: Serbian genocide Work of God?
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 22
James Sledd (jsledd@ssdc.sas.upenn.edu) wrote:
: Are the Serbs doing the work of God? Hmm...
: I've been wondering if anyone would ever ask the question,
: Are the governments of the United States and Europe not moving
: to end the ethnic cleansing by the Serbs because the targets are
: muslims?
: Can/Does God use those who are not following him to accomplish
: tasks for him? Esp those tasks that are punative?
: James Sledd
: no cute sig.... but I'm working on it.
Are you suggesting that God supports genocide?
Perhaps the Germans were "punishing" Jews on God's behalf?
Any God who works that way is indescribably evil, and unworthy of
my worship or faith.
revdak@netcom.com
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From: suraj@apollo.cs.jhu.edu (Suraj Surendrakumar)
Subject: ==> NEW STEREO SYSTEM/COMPONENTS FOR SALE <==
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University CS Department
Distribution: usa
Lines: 29
10 month old stereo system for sale. Luxman R-351 receiver, Onkyo TA-RW404
tape deck, and Polk Monitor M4.6 book shelf speakers are for sale. Receiver
has 5 year warranty, and all equipment is in excellent condition. Paid $950
for the system and willing to consider the best offer. Will sell seperate
pieces also if desired. Please send best offer to suraj@cs.jhu.edu.
Speakers: Polk Monitor M4.6 bookshelf speakers
Paid $250 pair. Willing to consider best offer.
Receiver: Luxman R-351 receiver with 5 year (yes 5 years) warranty.
Paid $475. Willing to consider best offer.
Full remote, 2 pairs of speaker connections,
60 watts per channel, but drives like a 150 watts per channel
Has all the standard features, and more.
Tape Deck: Onkyo TA-RW404 tape deck
Paid $275. Willing to consider best offer.
Dual cassette, Dolby B, C, and HX Pro.
Input level control for recording, auto reverse both sides.
Has all standard features.
Send E-mail with best offer to suraj@cs.jhu.edu
-Suraj
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From: jeffl@servprod.inel.gov (Jeff Later)
Subject: eXpEn$iVe MOTOROLA Handheld Radio For Peanuts!
Distribution: na
Organization: WINCO
Lines: 36
Heavy-duty, commercial, TINY,(6x3x1/2 inch) WATERPROOF, VHF 2 watt, 2 channel,
handheld two-way radio. MOTOROLA EXPO purchased NEW for Amateur frequencies
146.10/70 & 146.34/94. Absolute M I N T condition! Never scratched, dropped,
opened, or otherwise "comprosmised"! Can be re-crystaled for business band.
has PL slot.
Original Price:
========================
MOTOROLA EXPO VHF 2WATT/2CHAN. HT--------------------$1200.00
(comes with portable charger, antenna, manual,
NEW Ni-Cad pack, back housing belt clip)
MOTOROLA extra NEW Ni-Cad pack-----------------------$ 40.00
MOTOROLA extra VHF rubber-duckie antenna-------------$ 12.50
MOTOROLA Desktop quick charger-----------------------$ 135.00
MOTOROLA External speaker-mic.-----------------------$ 125.00
MOTOROLA +12V cig. lighter Battery Eliminator--------$ 80.00
MOTOROLA Heavy-Duty Nylon holster--------------------$ 25.00
MOTOROLA EXPO Technical Manuals----------------------$ 5.00
MOTOROLA EXPO tuning/case opening tools--------------$ N/C
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$1622.50
Would like $400, or BEST OFFER!!!
Thanks a lot!
Jeff
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||Jeff B. Later WB7TZA "jeffl@pmafire.inel.gov" | "I have become ||
||*"Disclaimer, Disclaimer, Where's My Lawyer!"* | comfortably numb" ||
|| | Pink Floyd ||
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From: ajg1678@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Buick heater controls
Nntp-Posting-Host: vaxa.isc.rit.edu
Reply-To: ajg1678@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Lines: 1
I had the exactly same problem with my '70 Lesabre. It was also from Cal. What I did was go to the local junkyard and pick up a diaphragm from a '68 Lesabre with the same heater set up. It worked for me, but a little bit slow to change from vents to defogger. Better than nothing!
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From: yoony@aix.rpi.edu (Young-Hoon Yoon)
Subject: Re: Constitutionality of 18 U.S.C 922(o)
Nntp-Posting-Host: aix.rpi.edu
Distribution: usa
Lines: 50
brians@atlastele.com (Brian Sheets) writes:
>You know, I was reading 18 U.S.C. 922 and something just did not make
>sence and I was wondering if someone could help me out.
>Say U.S.C. 922 :
>(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for
>any person to transfer or possess a machinegun.
> Well I got to looking in my law dictionary and I found that a "person"
>might also be an artificial entity that is created by government
>and has no rights under the federal constitution. So, what I
>don't understand is how a statute like 922 can be enforced on
>an individual. So someone tell me how my government can tell
>me what I can or cannot possess. Just passing a law
>does not make it LAW. Everyone knows that laws are constitional
>until it goes to court. So, has it ever gone to court, not
>just your run of the mill "Ok I had it I am guilty, put me in jail"
>Has anyone ever claimed that they had a right to possess and was told
>by the Supreme Court that they didn't have that right?
>--
>Brian Sheets _ /| "TRUCK?! What truck?"
>Support Engineer \`o_O'
>Atlas Telecom Inc. ( ) -Raiders of the Lost Ark
>brians@atlastele.com U
I'm not a lawyer but to the best of my understanding, the Congress has no
more rights than what is enumerated in the constitution. That is the
prime reason why the National Firearms Act is based on collecting revenue.
Since the Congress has the authority to levy taxes, the NFA is a tax act and
the registration requirement within it is to assist in that tax collection.
U.S.C 922, in order to be constitutional, must have a basis on a particular
authority granted to the Congress by the Constitution. Congress can not
arbitrarily ban a substance or product. That is why prohibition came into
effect, only by passing an ammendment. What you said about constitutionality
of law needs to be clarified. I believe that an unconstitutional law was
never constitutional. When a law is determined by the Supreme Court, to be
unconstitutional, that law was never really a law. The very nature of the law
being unconstitutional invalidates the law at it's inception. Please correct
me if I'm wrong, but when a law is deemed to be unconstitutional, anyone
convicted of breaking that law is absolved.
I don't believe U.S.C 922 has ever been challenged in court. NFA has been
invalidated in two Federal District Court cases( one may have been appellate
level{ U.S. vs Rock Island Armory and U.S. vs Dalton}).
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From: apland@mala.bc.ca (Ron Apland)
Subject: Re: plus minus stat
Organization: Malaspina College
Lines: 24
In article <1993Apr16.222846.17764@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
> It is meaningless to compare one player's plus/minus statistic with
> another players' out of the context of the role and the playing time
> of the players involved.
It's just as meaningless to compare goals, assists, PIM and any other stat I
can think of. Each player is asked to take a unique role for his team. The
contexts will never be the same from one player to another playing on the
same team or different teams. And yet ... awards are given and promotions
received based in part on these meaningless stats. The operative words are
"in part" - stats must be interpreted, tempered with other information one
has about the player.
> To compare Jagr's and Francis's plus/minus is ridiculous and absurd...
And comparing Jagr's and Francis's points is just as ridiculous and absurd...
but not more ridiculous and absurd as comparing goals, assists, points, +\-
for Selanne, Lindros, Juneau, Potvin, and the other rookies in the league...
and yet...
How about looking at them for what they are and enjoy the game.
Ron
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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: Letter to President, Members of Congress, Newspapers, TV Stations...
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
News-Software: FSUUCP 1.2 R4
Lines: 111
Today marks the 78th anniversary of the Armenian genocide of
2.5 million Turks and Kurds in Eastern Anatolia and x-Soviet
Armenia. The following letter, which represents a small portion
of the full text, along with more than 200 pages of historical
documents, scholarly sources, eyewitness accounts and photographs,
was sent to President Bill Clinton, members of Congress, editors,
program directors and columnists of major newspapers, journals and
radio/TV stations for the 78th anniversary of the Armenian genocide
of 2.5 million Muslim people. On April 23 of every year, the people
of Turkiye remember their dead. They grieve for lost family and the
lost homes of their grandfathers. This year the Turkish Nation is
mourning and praying again for her fallen heroes who gave their
lives generously and with altruism, so that the future generations
may live on that anointed soil of the Turkish land happily and
prosperously.
------------------------- letter ----------------------------------
During the years of World War I, the x-Soviet Armenian Government
has planned and perpetrated the 'Genocide' of the Muslim people, which
not only took the lives of 2.5 million Muslim people, but was also the
method used to empty the Turkish homeland of its inhabitants. To this day,
Turkish historic lands remain occupied by the x-Soviet Armenia. In order
to cover up the fact of its usurpation of the historic Turkish homeland,
which is the crux of Turkish political demands, fascist x-Soviet Armenia
continues its anti-Turkish policy in the following ways:
1. x-Soviet Armenia denies the historical fact of the Turkish Genocide
in order to shift international public opinion away from its political
responsibility.
2. x-Soviet Armenia, employing ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism
Triangle, attempts to call into question the veracity of the Turkish
Genocide.
3. x-Soviet Armenia has also implemented state-sponsored terrorism through
the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle in an attempt to
silence the Turkish people's vehement demands and protests.
4. Using all its human, financial, and governmental resources, x-Soviet
Armenia and its tools in the United States attempt to silence through
terrorism, bribery and other subversive methods, non-Turkish supporters
of the Turkish cause, be they political, governmental and humanitarian.
Using all the aforementioned methods, the x-Soviet Armenian Government
is attempting to neutralize the international diplomatic community from
making the Turkish Case a contemporary issue.
Yet despite the efforts of the x-Soviet Armenian Government and its
terrorist and revisionist organizations, in the last decades, thanks
to the struggle of those whose closest ones have been systematically
exterminated by the Armenians, the international wall of silence on
this issue has begun to collapse, and consequently a number of
governments and organizations have become supportive of the recognition
of the Turkish Genocide.
With the full knowledge that the struggle for the Turkish territorial
demands are still in their initial stages, the Turkish and Kurdish people
will unflaggingly continue in this sacred struggle, therefore the victims
of the Turkish Genocide demand:
1. that the x-Soviet Armenian Government, as the heirs of the Armenian
Dictatorship, recognize the Turkish Genocide;
2. that x-Soviet Armenia return the historic homeland to the Turkish and
Kurdish people;
3. that the x-Soviet Armenian Government make material reparations for
their heinous and unspeakable crime to the victims of the Turkish Genocide;
4. that all world governments, and especially the United States, officially
recognize the Turkish Genocide and Turkish territorial rights and refuse
to succumb to all Armenian political pressure;
5. that the U.S. Government free itself from the friendly position it
has adopted towards its unreliable ally, x-Soviet Armenia, and officially
recognize the historical fact of the Turkish Genocide as well as be
supportive of the pursuit of Turkish territorial demands;
6. that the x-Soviet Republics officially recognize the historical fact
of the Turkish Genocide and include the cold-blooded extermination of
2.5 million Muslim people in their history books.
The awareness of the Turkish people of the necessity of solidarity in the
efforts to pursue the Turkish Cause is seen by the victims of the first
genocide of the 20th century as a positive step. Furthermore, a new
generation has risen - equipped with a deep sense of commitment, politically
mature and conscious, who determinedly pursue the Turkish Cause, through
all necessary means, ranging from the political and diplomatic to the
armed struggle. Therefore, the victims of the Turkish Genocide call upon
all Muslims in the United States and Canada to participate vigorously in
the political, cultural and religious activities of the 78th Anniversary
of the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people.
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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From: timd@fenian.dell.com (Tim Deagan)
Subject: Homebuilt PAL (EPLD) programer?
Nntp-Posting-Host: fenian.dell.com
Reply-To: timd@fenian.dell.com
Organization: SLAMDANZ CYBRNETX
Lines: 13
Anyone know a reasonable circuit for programming PALs? I am interested
in programming a wide range of EPLDs but would be happy with something
that could handle a 22V10 or thereabouts.
Thanks in advance,
--Tim
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{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ timd@fenian.dell.com }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Rev. Tim Deagan - Official Obnoxious Poster
No one but me is responsible for anything I write, believe in or preach
* "It is difficult to free fools from chains they revere." - Voltaire *
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From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: Riddle me this...
Nntp-Posting-Host: ucsu.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Lines: 12
In article <1993Apr20.050550.4660@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> j979@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (FULLER M) writes:
>That the gas was "not harmful", as the sensitive, caring Janet Reno described
>it?
Is it? As far as I know, tear gas, especially in large concentrations,
is very dangerous (even toxic) for small children. This makes the
FBI's supposedconcern for the safety of the children seem rather
hypocritical.
Frank Crary
CU Boulder
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From: bilan@cps.msu.edu (Thomas J Bilan)
Subject: W4WG & Novell
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Lines: 23
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: walnut.cps.msu.edu
Originator: bilan@walnut.cps.msu.edu
I installed Windows for Workgroups on my network and I'm having problems
mapping drives in the file-manager.
Situation:
If I put LASTDRIVE = Z in my config.sys, NETX will run but I can't access
drive f: to log in to Novell.
If I don't put LASTDRIVE = Z in my config.sys I can't access other W4WG
drives from the file-manager.
It seems that there should be a way to make NETX work with the LASTDRIVE =
statement in my Config.Sys.
I would appreciate any help. It's probably an easy problem that all you
Windows guru's solved many many moons ago...
Thanks,
Tom Bilan
--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
$ Department of Death by Engineering ^ Surgeon General's Warning: $
$ Michigan State University ^ Graduate School may cause brain $
$ bilan@cps.msu.edu ^ damage and sporadic loss of hair $
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From: hans@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Hans Baele)
Subject: conversion of pic format files to HPGL files
Nntp-Posting-Host: glasnost.cs.kuleuven.ac.be
Organization: Dept. Computerwetenschappen
Lines: 20
Hello,
Can anybody help me with the conversion of pic format files
to HPGL files. The question is as follows:
Is it possible to convert files that have been generated in the
pic preprocessor format into HPGL format, suitable for sending
to a plotter. The hardware involved is IBM RISC/6000 running AIX
3.2.3. How should this be done and what software is involved,
where is it available, what does it cost, what are the problems?
Regards,
Dani
--------------------------------
Cimad Consultants
Antwerp, Belgium
dani@cimad.be
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From: lapp@waterloo.hp.com (David Lapp)
Subject: Re: NumLock masking? interference with Meta/Compose/ExtendChar, ...
Nntp-Posting-Host: hppadan.waterloo.hp.com
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.9]
Lines: 34
Ralph Seguin (rps@arbortext.COM) wrote:
: > My question is this: Is there a means of determining what the state
: > of CapsLock and/or NumLock is?
: Alright. Ignore this. I have delved a bit deeper (XKeyEvent) and
: found what I was looking for.
: ev->state has a bunch of masks to check against (LockMask is the one
: for CapsLock). Unfortunately, it appears that the NumLock mask varies
: from server to server. How does one tell what mask is numlock and
: which are for Meta (Mod1Mask, Mod2Mask, Mod3Mask, Mod4Mask, Mod5Mask).
: eg, SGI's vendor server has Mod2Mask being NumLock, whereas Solaris
: 1.0.1 OpenWindows 3.0 has Mod3Mask for NumLock. Is there an
: unambiguous means of determining NumLock's mask at runtime for any
: given server? Sorry for the wasted bandwidth and my appalling ignorance.
You'll have to check the keysym(s) on each of the keys for each
modifier. The one with NumLock in its mapping is the modifier
you want. A bit ugly perhaps but I think its currently the only
way to do this (and it does have some precedent as keysyms are
used to differentiate CapsLock from ShiftLock for the Lock
modifier).
I don't know of an accepted strategy for handling ambiguous
assignments either. (ie. what if NumLock is mapped for more then
one modifier). I suppose first found is as good as any.
X doesn't handle locking modifiers that well.
Hope that helps,
Dave Lapp
Standard Disclaimer etc...
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From: ren@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ren Hoek)
Subject: how to number prongs of a chip?
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Lines: 11
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: ren@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ren Hoek)
NNTP-Posting-Host: flubber.cc.utexas.edu
Originator: ren@flubber.cc.utexas.edu
How can one tell which prong of your basic chip is number 20? I realize there
is a chunk of the chip missing so that one can orient it correctly. So
using that hole as a guide, how can I count the prongs of the chip to find
#20? Please help.
--
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| \ | \ Ren Hoek
| \ | \
| | | | internet: ren@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
\ /
_\ ^ _/ "It is not I who am crazy... It is I who am MAD!!!"
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From: alung@megatest.com (Aaron Lung)
Subject: Re: what to do with old 256k SIMMs?
Organization: Megatest Corporation
Lines: 26
In article <1993Apr15.100452.16793@csx.cciw.ca> u009@csx.cciw.ca (G. Stewart Beal) writes:
>In article <120466@netnews.upenn.edu> jhaines@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jason Haines) writes:
>>
>> I was wondering if people had any good uses for old
>>256k SIMMs. I have a bunch of them for the Apple Mac
>>and I know lots of other people do to. I have tried to
>>sell them but have gotten NO interest.
>>
>> So, if you have an inovative use (or want to buy
>>some SIMMs 8-) ), I would be very interested in hearing
>>about it.
>>
>One of the guys at work takes 20 of them, uses cyano-acrylate glue to make
>five four-wide "panels" then constructs a box, with bottom, to use as a
>pencil holder.
>
Or, if you've got some entreprenuerial (sp?) spirit, get a cheapy
clear plastic box, mount the simm inside, and sell it as a 'Pet SIMM'!
I'm sure there are *plenty* of suckers out there who would go
for it!
aaron
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From: mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm Lee)
Subject: Re: Davidians and compassion
Organization: Royal Roads Military College, Victoria, B.C.
Lines: 18
In article <f2dutxH@quack.kfu.com>, pharvey@quack.kfu.com (Paul Harvey) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr20.144825.756@ra.royalroads.ca>
|> mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm Lee) writes:
|> >If one does not follow the teachings of Christ, he is NOT Christian.
|> >Too easy?
|>
|> That would exclude most self-proclaimed "Christians."
|> Do you follow the Ten Commandments?
As a matter of fact, yes I do or at least I strive to. I will not
be so proud as to boast that my faith is 100%. I am still human
and imperfect and therefore, liable to sin. Thankfully, there is
opportunity for repentence and forgiveness.
God be with you,
Malcolm Lee :)
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From: backon@vms.huji.ac.il
Subject: Re: From Israeli press. TORTURE.
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
Lines: 115
In article <1483500344@igc.apc.org>, Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:
>
> From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
> Subject: From Israeli press. TORTURE.
>
> /* Written 4:41 pm Apr 16, 1993 by cpr@igc.apc.org in igc:mideast.forum */
> /* ---------- "From Israeli press. TORTURE." ---------- */
> FROM THE ISRAELI PRESS.
>
> Newspaper: Ma'ariv Date: 18. December 1992 Author: Avi Raz
>
> Subject: Torture
Sigh.
Farwell LA, Donchin E. The truth will out: Interrogative polygraphy ("lie
detection") with event-related brain potentials. Psychophysiology
1991;28:531-547
"The research reported here was supported in part by contract number 87F350800
with the Central Intelligence Agency. Preliminary reports were presented at the
1986, 1988, and 1989 meetings of the Society for Psychophysiological Research".
Donchin happens to be an Israeli.
Do you really think that Israel needs something as primitive as torture when it
has THIS as well as something brought over by a Russian mathematician from the
Lenningrad Military Hospital in 1979 (factor-analysis of multiple unit
activity of the brain) ??? Surely you jest.
When Israel sics trained dogs on Arab prisoners the way it's commonly done on
prison farms in Mississippi or Alabama, *then* you have a right to protest
against torture. When Israeli security personnel beat Arab prisoners the way
Chicago police do, *then* you have a right to complain. Since it does NOT
practice physical torture in any way, kindly refrain from using this word.
Josh
backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL
>
> Title of article: Moderate physical pressure
>
> Several times in the course of the long hours in the interrogation
> room in Tulkarm prison, during which he says he was humiliated,
> beaten and tortured, Omar Daoud Jaber heard his interrogator, a
> Shabak agent 'Captain Louis', chatting on the phone with his wife.
> "At those moments", Omar said, "I felt that he was like a
> humanbeing, but right after he finished talking, he would be beat
> me and say, 'You listened to the conversation and enjoyed
> yourself' and I understood that he was not really a human being".
>
> In late October 1992, after 38 days in detention at Tulkarm
> prison, Omar Jaber was released without charges. "Among the Jews,
> as among the Arabs, there are good people and bad people", he said
> after his release, "but there, in Tulkarm, in the interrogations
> rooms, you cannot find even one person about whom you can say that
> he is a human being". Although he left the detention installation
> in Tulkarm bruised and humiliated ("I sat at home for ten days. My
> hands shook from nerves"), one may consider Omar Jaber lucky: He
> got out, not so healthy, but entire, and even ultimately returned
> to normal functioning, at the small solar heater plant he owns.
>
> In contrast, Hassan Bader al-Zbeidi, for example, was released
> seven weeks ago from detention in Tulkarm after 33 days in the
> Shabak wing, cut off from his surroundings. He doesn't speak or
> react. Mustafa Barakat, aged only 23, who was arrested in early
> August and was brought to the Tulkarm detention installation, left
> it one day later - dead. "We have recently received an especially
> large number of testimonies concerning cruel tortures employed at
> the Tulkarm detention installation by Shabak interrogators", noted
> Dr. Niv Gordon, director of the Association of Israel and
> Palestinian Physicians for Human Rights. (...)
>
> The right to complain against the Shabak does not excite Anan
> Saber Makhlouf, a 20 year old student. In fact, he was extremely
> fearful about describing the manner in which he was interrogated
> in Tulkarm prison, in case the publication in the paper would
> return him to detention and lead to renewed mistreatment.
>
> (...follow description of tortures....)
>
> Omar, a tall bearded man, was silent. "I do not want to talk about
> it", he finally said, quietly. Some time later, embarrased and
> ashamed, he spoke: "Sometimes he beats you and beats you until
> you'll kiss his hand, and not only his hand. Even the hands of
> another interrogator, and another, whom he calls into the room,
> and the last interrogator says:" Now you are kissing my hand, and
> later if I want, you will kiss my ass."
>
> These things take place in an Israeli army detention installation,
> located within the military government compound in Tulkarm (West
> Bank). But the Shabak interrogation wing is a separate kingdom. In
> early March the IDF allowed representatives of B'Tselem, the
> Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Territories, to
> visit Tulkarm prison, but denied them access to the interrogation
> wing. "The interrogation wing is Shabak property, being solely
> under Shabak responsibility. All interrogations are performed by
> it", said Lieutnant Sharon Sho'an, the commander of the
> installation, according to the internal report written by B'tselem
> member, Yuval Ginbar, following the visit. Major David Pe'er,
> governing commander of the prison system in the Central Command,
> was quoted in the report: "There is an ethical problem here - no
> one can enter the interrogation wing".
>
> Transl. by I. Shahak
>
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From: etjet@levels.unisa.edu.au
Subject: Aussie needs info on car shows
Reply-To: johnt@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au
Organization: University of South Australia
Lines: 54
Hi from Australia,
I am a car enthusiast in Australia.
I am particularly interested in American Muscle cars of the
1960s and 1970s. ALL MAKES: AMC, Ford, Chrysler/Mopar, GM.
I will be in the USA for 6 weeks from May 2nd to -June 14 1993.
Chicago: Sun May 2 -Thursday May 6
Denver: Friday May 7 - Sunday May 9
Austin, Texas: Monday May 10- Friday May 21
Oklahoma City: Friday May 21 - Monday May 24
Anaheim, California: Tuesday May 25-Thursday May 27
Las Vegas, Nevada: Friday May 28- Sunday May 30
Grand Canion, Monday May 31 - Tuesday June 1
Las Angeles, San Diego and vicinity: Wednesday June 3-Sunday June 6 June
South Lake Tahoe, Cal: Sunday June 6 - Wednesday June 9
Reno: Thursday June 10
San Fransisco: Thursday June 10 - Sunday June 13
I was wondering if anyone could send me any information of
car shows, swap meets, drag meets, model car shows etc. during this period.
Can anybody tell me when the Pomona Swap meet is on this year?
Also, any places to visit (eg. car museums, private collections,
your collection? etc. Any bit of information is appreciated!
I am also interested in finding some model cars (scale Models).
I am intersted in 1968-1974 AMC cars. Of particular interest is:
1968-1970 AMX
1968-1974 Javelin
1969 SCRAMBLER
1970 Rebel Machine
and others
If you have any kits, plastics, diecast etc and are interested in selling them,
tell me, I will be interested.
I can also send/bring you models of Australian High performance cars if
you are interested.
Please reply by email to: johnt@spri.levels.unisa.edu.au
Thanks,
John Tsimbinos
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From: gilham@csl.sri.com (Fred Gilham)
Subject: Re: Prophetic Warning to New York City
Organization: Computer Science Lab, SRI International, Menlo Park, CA.
Lines: 16
Regarding David Wilkerson's prophecies. While I'm not real sure of
his credibility, I do remember a book he wrote, called A VISION or
something like that. He made a prediction that people who bought gold
would be hurt financially. At the time, gold was up to about $800;
now it is less than half that. This prediction stuck in my mind
because a lot of people where I worked were buying gold.
The problem is, we tend to remember predictions that come true and
forget ones that didn't (a la Jean Dixon). Does anyone know if there
any of his predictions, perhaps from the book I mentioned, that can
pretty definitely be said to have not come true?
--
-Fred Gilham gilham@csl.sri.com
"Peace is only better than war when it's not hell too. War being hell
makes sense."
-Walker Percy, THE SECOND COMING
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From: osinski@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Marek Osinski)
Subject: Re: Turkey-Cyprus-Bosnia-Serbia-Greece (Armenia-Azeris)
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Lines: 12
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: chtm.eece.unm.edu
In article <1993Apr15.174657.6176@news.uiowa.edu> mau@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Mau Napoleon) writes:
>Compromise on what, the invasion of Cyprus, the involment of Turkey in
>Greek politics, the refusal of Turkey to accept 12 miles of territorial
>waters as stated by international law, the properties of the Greeks of
>Konstantinople, the ownership of the islands in the Greek lake,sorry, Aegean.
Well, it did not take long to see how consequent some Greeks are in
requesting that Thessaloniki are not called Solun by Bulgarian netters.
So, Napoleon, why do you write about Konstantinople and not Istanbul?
Marek Osinski
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From: mdw33310@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael D. Walker)
Subject: Re: The doctrine of Original Sin
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 24
Just a quick reminder:
The way you are interpreting those passages is your opinion. You make
it sound as if your opinion is somehow an undisputable fact.
Many would interpret the passages you cite very differently.
(Many have--several of the great theologians you mentioned do that
very thing. These were people who had much more expertise in the
interpretation of scripture than you or me or probably anyone reading
this newsgroup. To say that all of them are wrong and you are right
is, in my opinion, (notice those last three words) coming pretty darn
close to the sin of pride.
In the future I would suggest you not be so absolutist in your
interpretations, especially when contradicting highly respected
doctors of Christianity.
- Mike Walker
mdw33310@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(Univ. of Illinois)
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From: hamilton@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu (Wayne Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Null modem: 25 pin serial
Article-I.D.: news.C520Gs.Dyw
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 57
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Bruce Maynard (drac@uumeme.chi.il.us) wrote:
> In article <93083.215554MAL112@psuvm.psu.edu> Mitch Lewars <MAL112@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> >Can someone give me the specs
> >on a null modem cable, I ferget
> >which get crossed.... =-)
> > mal112@psuvm.psu.edu
> That's an easy one... carry all 25 pins straight thru, with the exception of
> pins 2 & 3, which should be crossed...
as someone else already mentioned, don't "carry thru" the other 23 pins.
plan A, minimal null modem:
SG(7) - SG(7)
TD(2) - RD(3)
RD(3) - TD(2)
if you're transfering files betwen 2 PCs, this ought to work (unless
you have a persnickity comm program).
plan B, null modem with modem control:
SG(7) - SG(7)
TD(2) - RD(3)
RD(3) - TD(2)
DCD(8) - DTR(20)
DTR(20) - DCD(8)
some comm software will wait for DCD before transferring anything.
such software will raise DTR to enable the modem to accept a call.
with this cable, each side's DTR will drive the other's DCD.
plan C, null modem with hardware flow control:
SG(7) - SG(7)
TD(2) - RD(3)
RD(3) - TD(2)
RTS(4) - CTS(5)
CTS(5) - RTS(4)
for high-speed transfers, you want the flow control.
plan D, deluxe null modem (combine B and C):
SG(7) - SG(7)
TD(2) - RD(3)
RD(3) - TD(2)
RTS(4) - CTS(5)
CTS(5) - RTS(4)
DCD(8) - DTR(20)
DTR(20) - DCD(8)
this one is ideal. it leaves out DSR and RI (rarely used anymore).
if you're really paranoid, or you just have an 8th wire to spend,
you might add:
FG(1) - FG(1)
the pin numbers above are (obviously) for 25-pin connectors.
i don't have a 9-pin pinout handy.
--
wayne hamilton
I'net: hamilton@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu
Lowtek: Box 476, Urbana, IL 61801; (217)384-4310(voice), -4311(BBS)
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From: smorris@sumax.seattleu.edu (Steven A. Morris)
Subject: Re: wife wants convertible
Organization: Addiction Studies Program, Seattle University
Lines: 15
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu
If you hold off, there are a number of interesting convertibles coming
to market in the next few years.
The new LeBaron will be based on the Mitsubishi Galant, which should
be an improvement over the current model.
The new PL compact will have a convertible option (also a chrysler
product)
Kia, makers of the Ford Festiva is planning a larger convertible.
--
Steve Morris, M.A. : Internet: smorris@sumax.seattleu.edu
Addiction Studies Pgm : uucp :{uw-beaver,uunet!gtenmc!dataio}!sumax!smorris
Seattle University : Phone : (206) 296-5350 (dept) or 296-5351 (direct)
Seattle, WA 98122_____:________________________________________________________
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From: jeq@lachman.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Bikes vs. Horses (was Re: insect impacts f
Nntp-Posting-Host: birdie.i88.isc.com
Organization: Lachman Technology, Incorporated, Naperville, IL
Lines: 21
In article <txd.734810267@Able.MKT.3Com.Com> txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
>>In a previous article, egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) says:
[lots of things, none of which are quoted here]
>>>In article rgu@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, ai598@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Sturdevant) writes:
>>> You think your *average* dirt biker can jump
>>>a 3 foot log?
>
>How about an 18" log that is suspended about 18" off of the ground?
>For that matter, how about a 4" log that is suspended 2.5' off of the
>ground?
Oh, ye of little imagination.
You don't jump over those - that's where you lay the bike down and slide under!
--
Jonathan E. Quist jeq@lachman.com Lachman Technology, Incorporated
DoD #094, KotPP, KotCF '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep" Naperville, IL
__ There's nothing quite like the pitter-patter of little feet,
\/ followed by the words "Daddy! Yay!"
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From: healta@saturn.wwc.edu (Tammy R Healy)
Subject: Re: Free Moral Agency and Kent S.
Lines: 37
Organization: Walla Walla College
Lines: 37
In article <sandvik-140493185034@sandvik-kent.apple.com> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
>From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
>Subject: Re: Free Moral Agency and Kent S.
>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 01:51:57 GMT
>In article <healta.135.734811375@saturn.wwc.edu>, healta@saturn.wwc.edu
>(TAMMY R HEALY) wrote:
>> Ezekiel 28:17 says, Your hart was filled with pride because of all your
>> beauty; you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor. Therefore
>> I have cast you down the the ground and exposed you helpless before the
>> curious gaze of Kings."
>
>> For those of you who are Bible scholars, you knowthat the 1st 11 verses
>> refer to the Prince of Tyre. This is a prophesy about and addressed to the
>> human prince. Verses 12-19 refer to the King of Tyre, which is a term for
>> Satan.
>
>Tammy, what's the rationale to connect the prince of Tyre with Satan,
>could you give us more rational bible cites, thanks? I'm afraid that
>if this is not the case, your thinking model falls apart like a house
>of cards. But let's see!
>
>Cheers,
>Kent
>---
>sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
At the time Ezekiel was written, Israel was in apostacy again and if I'm not
mistaken, Tyre was about to make war on Israel. Like I said, the Prince of
Tyre was the human ruler of Tyre. He was a wicked man. By calling Satan
the King of Tyre, Ezekiel was saying that Satan is the real ruler over Tyre.
Don't think my interpretation is neccessarily the orthodox Christian one,
although most Christian Bible commentaries interpret the King of Tyre as
being a reference to Satan. (I haven't read Ezekiel throughly in a long
time.)
Tammy
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From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: <Political Atheists?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 12
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
>Now along comes Mr Keith Schneider and says "Here is an "objective
>moral system". And then I start to ask him about the definitions
>that this "objective" system depends on, and, predictably, the whole
>thing falls apart.
It only falls apart if you attempt to apply it. This doesn't mean that
an objective system can't exist. It just means that one cannot be
implemented.
keith
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Subject: *** New Computer Books for Sale ***
From: mparikh@uceng.uc.edu (Mehul Parikh)
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Lines: 15
Hi!
I have several computer related books for sale. They are all new,
unused and hence in excellent condition. The subjects include
Programming Languages (C, C++, LISP, PROLOG), Operating Systems
(UNIX, DOS), Windows, X-Windows, LAN, AI, and Expert Systems.
If you are interested, pls. contact me at:
parikhma@ucunix.san.uc.edu
Thanks.
-M. Parikh
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Subject: Re: Utility for updating Win.ini and system.ini
From: Stephen.Gibson@sonoma.edu <Stephen Gibson>
Distribution: world
Organization: Sonoma State University
Nntp-Posting-Host: computer_ctr.sonoma.edu
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d1
Lines: 32
In article <1993Apr20.220556.19652@news.uit.no> Svein Pedersen,
sp@odin.fna.no writes:
>Sorry, I did`nt tell exactly what I need.
>
>I need a utility for automatic updating (deleting, adding, changing) of
*.ini
>files for Windows.
>The program should run from Dos batchfile or the program run a script
under Windows.
>
>I will use the utility for updating the win.ini (and other files) on
meny PC`s.
>
>Do I find it on any FTP host?
>
> Svein
>
If you are managing PC's on a Novell network, get the network management
tools provided by either Sabre Software or Automated Design Systems.
Among the many features, you'll find utilities that can help you to
manage .INI files stored on users' workstations or home directories.
This is commercial software and well worth the money. To date, I have
not found ANYTHING available via FTP that could compare. Reply to the
address in my .SIG for more info.
----------------------------------
Stephen Gibson, System Support Specialist
Sonoma State University
eMAIL: gibsonst@sonoma.edu
Stephen.Gibson@sonoma.edu
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From: jmeyers@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jeff Meyers)
Subject: Re: Procomm Plus for windows problems....
Organization: California State University, Chico
Lines: 20
NNTP-Posting-Host: psycho.ecst.csuchico.edu
In article <1qkqrhINNobc@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> kentiler@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Kent P. Iler) writes:
.
.
>I have a friend who connects to the mainframe and unix machines here
>using it, but the screen seems to have a problem keeping up with the
>modem....he has a 14,400 modem on a 486 50 Mhz machine.
Tell him he probably needs to upgrade to a faster video card! My 9600 baud
modem was one of the reasons I sought out the Diamond Speedstar 24X. I get
about 7 million WinMarks on my 386-25 and it just about keeps up with the
modem speed (using procomm plus for windows, too). He should get over
10 million on his machine with the same card. Anything 10+ should yield
acceptable speed...
--
============================================================================
| Jeff Meyers | jmeyers@ecst.csuchico.edu | 39x43'N 121x48'W |
| Chico, Ca 95926 | KD6DIS@KE6LW.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA | Grid: CN80-CM99 ?? |
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From: thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Swimming pool defense
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Lines: 17
In article <dasmith.734719640@husc.harvard.edu> dasmith@husc8.harvard.edu (David Smith) writes:
>Granted, the simple fact of holding down a job will improve these kids' chances
>of getting another job in the future, but what inner city kid would want to hold
>down just one more minimum wage job when there is so much more money to be made
>dealing drugs?
What suburban kid would want to hold down a minimum wage job when there is so
much more money to be made dealing drugs?
Yet, somehow, surburban kids do hold down minimum wage jobs. So do inner
city kids, when give the chance. Any reason you think that inner city kids
are incapable of doing legitimate work?
--
ted frank |
thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu | I'm sorry, the card says "Moops."
the u of c law school |
standard disclaimers |
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From: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon Wtte)
Subject: Re: ADB Mouse II (ergo) -- when?
Distribution: comp
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Lines: 16
Nntp-Posting-Host: hemul.nada.kth.se
In <JAS.93Apr15161243@tigger.ISI.EDU> jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan) writes:
>When is Apple supposed to start bundlign the new ergonomic ADB Mouse
>II with all CPUs sold?
As far as I know, they did; my new Mac came with one yesterday...
(And I got my ergonomic keyboard, on order for three months, the
other day, too!)
Cheers,
/ h+
--
-- Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Mac Hacker Deluxe --
"On a clear disc, you can seek forever."
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From: dlb5404@tamuts.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf)
Subject: Plymouth Sundance/Dodge Shadow experiences?
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Lines: 9
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamuts.tamu.edu
Another user recently requested info about the Shadow/Sundance
cars, but I haven't seen any public responses.
What are people's experiences with these cars?
Daryl
Daryl Biberdorf N5GJM d-biberdorf@tamu.edu
+ Sola Gratia + Sola Fide + Sola Scriptura
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From: ab245@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sam Latonia)
Subject: Re: ISA bus pin question; re: Diamond Speedstar 24X
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Lines: 16
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu
The JP5 on the Speedstar 24x is for those systems with boot-up problems.
If your system fails to boot-up proprtly, please pull off the jumper
block from jp5. This will not affect the proformance of the SpeedStar 24x.
This is what my manual says about jp5. I never knew that it was there
but the card is a real ask kicker in my book. It beats the hell out
of my junk Sony 1604s to the point that I can't even use above 648x480
mode much...Sam
Some times an upgrage turns out to be a big overkill, like driving a Sony
with a 24x that the monitor can't handle. Or installing 60ns simms and
then finding out that your mother board doesn't have a cmos wait state
adjustment to take advantage of the new 60ns simms that you just bought!
--
Gosh..I think I just installed a virus..It was called MS DOS6...
Don't copy that floppy..BURN IT...I just love Windows...CRASH...
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From: marc@pinet.aip.org (Marc Wiener)
Subject: core dump from getcons(?)
Organization: American Institute of Physics
Lines: 11
We are getting a memory fault and a core dump whenever we end a Motif
session under Ultrix 4.3, running on a DEC 5000/240. An examintion of the
core file leads us to believe it's from getcons. Does anyone know what
this is all about?
marc
--
Marc Wiener | marc@aip.org
American Institute of Physics |
500 Sunnyside Blvd. | Voice: (516)576-2329
Woodbury, NY 11797 | Fax: (516)349-7669
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Organization: University of Notre Dame - Office of Univ. Computing
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Subject: Re: NL vs. AL?
<93102.164224RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> <1993Apr13.184311.16351@news.yale.edu>
Lines: 23
In article <1993Apr13.184311.16351@news.yale.edu>, (Sean Garrison) says:
>
>In article <93102.164224RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>, RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu
>wrote:
>
>> pitchers who are doing well are
>> more likely to be taken out of the game in the nl than they are in the al,
>> so it seems to me that the al, not the nl, promotes pitchers' duels.
>>
>> bob vesterman.
>
>
>On what basis do you make this statement?
>
> Q Sean
are you serious? pitchers are pinch-hit for in the nl. they are not in the
nl. if a pitcher is cranking in the al, he will stay in the game. if he
is cranking in the nl, he may not - ESPECIALLY if it's a pitchers' duel,
and his team needs an extra run.
bob vesterman.
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Subject: Need rgb data from saved images
From: <JER114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Organization: Penn State University
Lines: 4
Could someone please help me find a program or figure out how to extract a li
st of R G B values for each pixel in an image. I can convert between tga and s
everal other popular formats but I need the R G B values for use in a program I
am writing. Thanks for the help
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From: rwalls@twg.com (Roger Walls)
Subject: Re: Boom! Dog attack!
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Lines: 25
In article <viking.734937529@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
>ryan_cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau) writes:
>
>mere 20mph or so, gravel road with few loose rocks on it (as in,
>just like bad concrete), and 2200lbs of swinging beef jumped a
>fence, came out of the ditch, and rammed me! When I saw her jump
>the fence I went for the gas, since she was about 20 feet ahead
>of me but a good forty to the side. Damn cow literally chased me
>down and nailed me. No damage to cow, a bent case guard and a
>severely annoyed rider were the only casualties. If I had my
>shotgun I'd still be eating steak. Nope, if 2200lbs of cow
>can hit me when I'm actively evading, forget a much more
>manueverable dog. Just run them over.
>
One day out riding, my friend and i were passing a field of goats and
noticed 2 out on the road. As we slowed to pass the ram made a dash at
my friend just missing him and then tangling it self up in the barb wire
fence. Being good samaritains and generally nice guys we turned around to
untrangle the goat from the barbed wire. As I pulled up next to him
(seeing him still tangled up), stopped the bike and got off the Goat had
vanished (into the field I guess).
Jolly Roger
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From: stssdxb@st.unocal.com (Dorin Baru)
Subject: Re: Reasons : was Re: was: Go Hezbollah!
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Lines: 32
Hossien Amehdi writes:
>In article <1993Apr15.160224.15940@unocal.com> stssdxb@st.unocal.com (Dorin Baru) writes:
>>>Now, about tough talk and arrogance, we are adults, aren't we ? Do you listen
>>>to tough talk of american politicians ? or switch the channel ?
>I guess, I didn't make my point clear. In the case of Israel government, it
>is not only tough talk for its intimidation policy. After all, not many
>people are intimidated just by talking. Here how it goes: tough talks,
>followed by aggressive actions followed by taking pride of those actions and
>bragging about them. >
Agressive actions are taken by both sides. Tough talk is done by both sides.
When an arab leader is menacing to throw all jews in the water is also tough talk,
I think. And killing people is mildly agressive (justified, in your opinion
if they are israeli soldiers, justified, in others' opinion if they are jews, not
justified at all in others opinion).
When Brad wrote the article about 3 Israelis killed, ther was a lot of pride
and satisfaction in his lines. That's what I feel disgusting. We may agree
or not when a killing is 'technically' murder, but being enthousiastic about it?
And again, I may appreciate some of your points, but you are not objective. That
is not a blame, just a remark.
Dorin
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From: etuggle@auc.trw.com (Eddie Tuggle)
Subject: Re: UHC SVR4.0.3.6 forsale..
Keywords: UHC, SVR4
Organization: TRW Denver Operations
Lines: 21
In article <C5I0rs.Kzo@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>darylm@illian.mnet.com (Daryl V. McDaniel) writes:
...
>
>considering the conversation about UHC on the net, I wouldn't say $1K is
>a good deal -- considering the package is inflated in price to start with
>
>--
>Larry Snyder
>larry@gator.rn.com
What problems have you had with UHC? I have been using their OS for 2 years
and have had very few problems.
--
Eddie D. Tuggle, etuggle@dora.auc.trw.com | "There is nothing either good or
TRW Denver Operations | bad, but thinking makes it so."
16201 Centretech Pky / Aurora, CO 80011 | -- SHAKESPEARE
Voice: 303.360.4001 FAX: 303.360.4133 |
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From: wsa@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Warren S. Arbogast)
Subject: Re: Spelling Error on the Stanley Cup??
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 24
r_turgeo@oz.plymouth.edu writes:
> I was reading a newspaper tidbit that mentioned that there is a
> grammatical error on the Stanley Cup. This newspaper, "The
> Union Leader" (Manchester, New Hampshire), stated that one of the
> years that the New York Islanders won the cup, the printing on the
> actual cup stated "New York Ilanders". Can anyone verify this?? I
> forgot the exact year that this supposedly occured. Any die-hard
> Islander fans know about this?? The reason why I am asking is
> because the paper is not very reliable, we call it "The Union
> Mis-leader".
>
>
> Randy
> Plymouth State College
> r_turgeo@oz.plymouth.edu
Speaking of spelling errors on the Cup, I wonder if the "h" in
Pittsburgh made it to the Cup. You know how funny people can
be about spelling Pittsburgh.
--
Warren Arbogast
Darden Visual Communications "with 10 miles behind them
University of Virginia and 10,000 more to go"
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From: mhamilto@Nimitz.mcs.kent.edu (The Lawnmowerman)
Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!!
Keywords: Nata thing !!
Nntp-Posting-Host: nimitz.mcs.kent.edu
Reply-To: Matthew Hamilton
Organization: Kent State University CS
Lines: 68
In article <93109.13404334AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET>, <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> writes:
> I will be surprised if this post makes it past the censors,
> but here goes:
>
> Monday, 19 April, 1993 13:30 EDT
>
> MURDER MOST FOUL!!
>
> CNN is reporting as I write this that the ATF has ignited all
> the buildings of the Branch Dividian ranch near Waco, TX. The
> lies from ATF say "holes were made in the walls and 'non-lethal' tear
> gas pumped in". A few minutes after this started the whole thing went up.
> ALL buildings are aflame. NO ONE HAS ESCAPED. I think it obvious that
> the ATF used armored flame-thrower vehicles to pump in unlit
> napalm, then let the wood stove inside ignite it.
>
> THIS IS MURDER!
>
> ATF MURDERERS! BUTCHERS!!
>
> THIS IS GENOCIDAL MASS-SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, INCLUDING CHILDREN!
>
> I have predicted this from the start, but God, it sickens me to see
> it happen. I had hoped I was wrong. I had hoped that there was
> still some shred of the America I grew up with, and loved, left
> alive. I was wrong. The Nazis have won.
>
> I REPEAT, AS OF THIS TIME THERE ARE **NO SURVIVORS**!
>
> God help us all.
>
>
> PLEASE CROSSPOST -- DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THE SLAUGHTER OF THE CHILDREN!
>
>
> W. K. Gorman - an American in tears.
Flame on!!
Is this guy serious????
If he would ever really pay attention to the news (oops I forgot that the media
for the most part loves to jump right on top of a story before all the facts
are known, as well as to manipulate what we see and thus what we believe).
Any ways one of Koresh's DEVOTED followers that DID I REPEAT DID survive this
"GENOCIDAL MASS-SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE". Besides there are nine
survivors in the burn-unit of the local hospital and was reported that David
was in one of the towers when the shit hit the fan. Besides, a majority of
these children were children that he was supposed to have been the father of,
this then makes them bastard children to a sacraligious zeloit (sp). Also
someone should have told David and his followers that if they can't the heat
then they should stay out of the kitchen!! (pun intended)
Flame off
" Aaah Daniaalson yah wanna fight, fight me!!"
--
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| CS/ Physics Major | 1499h751@ksuvxb.kent.edu | (The Lawnmowerman) |
| Kent State University | 1299h751@ksuvxb.kent.edu | |
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From: thomsonal@cpva.saic.com
Subject: Cosmos 2238: an EORSAT
Article-I.D.: cpva.15337.2bc16ada
Organization: Science Applications Int'l Corp./San Diego
Lines: 48
>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1993 15:40:47 GMT
>I need as much information about Cosmos 2238 and its rocket fragment (1993-
>018B) as possible. Both its purpose, launch date, location, in short,
>EVERYTHING! Can you help?
>-Tony Ryan, "Astronomy & Space", new International magazine, available from:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ocean Reconnaissance Launch Surprises West
Space News, April 5-11, 1993, p.2
[Excerpts]
Russia launched its first ocean reconnaissance satellite in 26 months
March 30, confounding Western analysts who had proclaimed the program dead.
The Itar-TASS news agency announced the launch of Cosmos 2238 from
Plesetsk Cosmodrome, but provided little description of the payload's mission.
However, based on the satellite's trajectory, Western observers
identified it as a military spacecraft designed to monitor electronic
emissions from foreign naval ships in order to track their movement.
Geoff Perry of the Kettering Group in England... [said] Western
observers had concluded that no more would be launched. But days after the
last [such] satellite re-entered the Earth's atmosphere, Cosmos 2238 was
launched.
"Cosmos-2238" Satellite Launched for Defense Ministry
Moscow ITAR-TASS World Service in Russian 1238 GMT 30 March 1993
Translated in FBIS-SOV-93-060, p.27
by ITAR-TASS correspondent Veronika Romanenkova
Moscow, 30 March -- The Cosmos-2238 satellite was launched at 1600 Moscow
time today from the Baykonur by a "Tsiklon-M" carrier rocket. An ITAR-TASS
correspondent was told at the press center of Russia's space-military forces
that the satellite was launched in the interests of the Russian Defense
Ministry.
Parameters Given
Moscow ITAR-TASS World Service in Russian 0930 GMT 31 March 1993
Translated in FBIS-SOV-93-060, p.27
Moscow, 31 March -- Another artificial Earth satellite, Cosmos-2238, was
launched on 30 March from the Baykonur cosmodrome.
The satellite carries scientific apparatus for continuing space research.
The satellite has been placed in an orbit with the following parameters:
initial period of revolution--92.8 minutes; apogee--443 km; perigee--413 km;
orbital inclination--65 degrees.
Besides scientific apparatus the satellite carries a radio system for the
precise measurement of orbital elements and a radiotelemetry system for
transmitting to Earth data about the work of the instruments and scientific
apparatus. The apparatus aboard the satellite is working normally.
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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Subject: Re: Twitching eyelid
Summary: Different cause
Nntp-Posting-Host: aisun3.ai.uga.edu
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
Lines: 9
I'm surprised nobody mentioned that twitching of the eyelid can be a
symptom of an infection, especially if it also itches or stings.
(It happened to me, and antibiotic eyedrops cleared it up nicely.)
--
:- Michael A. Covington internet mcovingt@ai.uga.edu : *****
:- Artificial Intelligence Programs phone 706 542-0358 : *********
:- The University of Georgia fax 706 542-0349 : * * *
:- Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A. amateur radio N4TMI : ** *** **
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From: jeffp@vetmed.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke)
Subject: Re: Lyme vaccine
Organization: College of Veterinary Medicine WSU
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Lines: 45
kathleen richards (kilty@ucrengr) wrote:
> My nearly-13 year old Pomeranian had a nasty reaction to this vaccination.
> ... Suffice it to say, we will not
> vaccinate her for Lyme disease again. She's been camping through some 6
> states and has backpacked with us as well and we are used to watching for ticks
> and dealing with them and we simply won't take her to really active Lyme
> disease areas....
Not to drag this out anymore, but....
Many veterinarians feel that Lyme Disease in dogs is so easy to treat that
in an endemic area, they often just give the appropriate antibiotics to dogs
presenting with lameness, swollen joints, +/- fever.
A recent paper (March 1993) has finally established that Lyme disease in dogs
can be reproduced in a controlled experimentaly setting. This has been
an ellusive matter for researchers, and is one of the fundamental requirements
for many to acknowledge an agent as being causitive of a particular disease.
Up to now, only the vaccine manufacturer has been able to "prove" that
the disease exists.
This paper is noteworthy in two other regards:
1) None of the animals they infected were treated in any way. The dogs
had episodes of lameness during a 6-8 week period which occurred 2-5
months after exposure. After this period, none showed any further
clinical signs up to the 17 month observation period of the study. So
these are proven, clinically sick Lyme patients showing spontaneous
recovery without the benefit of drug treatment. Of course, observations
longer than 17 months will be necessary to be sure the disease doesn't
have the same chronicity that some see in humans.
2) The addendum to the paper calls into question the techniques used by the
vaccine manufacturer to validate the vaccine. Of course, they want
the world to use the model they developed in order to test vaccine
efficacy.
Anyway, maybe we will see some independent, scientifically sound evaluations
of this vaccine in the next year or so.
--
Jeff Parke <jeffp@pgavin1.vetmed.wsu.edu>
also: jeffp@WSUVM1.bitnet AOL: JeffParke
Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine class of 1994
Pullman, WA 99164-7012
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From: mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.
Lines: 31
X-Newsreader: rusnews v1.01
frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
> In article <1qg8bu$kl5@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon
> Livesey) writes:
> #And this "objective morality" is........?
>
> And here, children, we have a person playing the "objective morality doesn't
> exist, show me one" game. You can play this with just about anything:
>
> And this "objective medicine" is.....?
> And this "objective physics" is.....?
> And this "objective reality" is.....?
Precisely.
There's no objective medicine; some people get marvellous results from
alternative therapy, others only respond to traditional medicine.
There's no objective physics; Einstein and Bohr have told us that.
There's no objective reality. LSD should be sufficient to prove that.
> One wonders just what people who ask such questions understand by the term
> "objective", if anything.
I consider it to be a useful fiction; an abstract ideal we can strive
towards. Like an ideal gas or a light inextensible string, it doesn't
actually exist; but we can talk about things as if they were like it, and not
be too far wrong.
mathew
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From: turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin)
Subject: Re: Great Post! (was Re: Candida (yeast) Bloom...) (VERY LONG)
Summary: How virtually?
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Lines: 30
NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu
-*-----
In article <noringC5wzM4.41n@netcom.com> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
>> ... if you can't observe or culture the yeast "bloom" in the
>> gut or sinus, then there's no way to diagnose or even recognize
>> the disease. And I know they realize that it is virtually
>> impossible to test for candida overbloom in any part of the body
>> that cannot be easily observed since candida is everywhere in
>> the body.
In article <C5y5nM.Axv@toads.pgh.pa.us> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
> You've just discovered one of the requirements for a good quack theory.
> Find something that no one can *disprove* and then write a book saying
> it is the cause of whatever. Since no one can disprove it, you can
> rake in the bucks for quite some time.
I hope Gordon Banks did not mean to imply that notions such as
hard-to-see candida infections causing various problems should not
be investigated. Many researchers have made breakthroughs by
figuring out how to investigate things that were previously thought
"virtually impossible to test for."
Indeed, I would be surprised if "candida overbloom" were such a
phenomena. I would think that candida would produce signature
byproducts whose measure would then set a lower bound on the
extent of recent infection. I realize this might get quite
tricky and difficult, probably expensive, and likely inconvenient
or uncomfortable to the subjects, but that is not the same as
"virtually impossible."
Russell
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From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Lines: 58
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com
In article <C5t38G.IL@news.udel.edu>, roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes:
> In article <1r1rad$7rl@transfer.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
> >In article <C5s0Ds.J54@news.udel.edu>, roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes:
>
> [The original question was about who started the fire and whether the
> "madmen" were inside or outside the compound. To which I replied on
> the possible sanity level of those inside and outside.]
Was THAT your argument. Well, you didn't make it very well. You started
from the questionable premise that the fire was necessarily an act of
insanity, rather than an act of negligence or an accident. Recall, one
survivor claims that the fire started when a tank knocked over a kerosene
lamp. Kind of makes arguments regarding relative sanity somewhat moot, no?
> >> According to an Australian documentary made in the year before the stand off
> >> began, Koresh and his followers all believed he was Christ. Koresh
> >> had sex with children and women married to other men in the compound.
> >> These were the "perfect children" resulting from the "great seed" of
> >> his "magnified horn". Ex-members describe him in ways not dissimilar
> >> to the way Jim Jones has been described.
> >
> >Point noted. Have you submitted YOUR faith and sex life for BATF clearance?
> >Better hurry; I believe the deadline was April 15.
>
> I paid my taxes. There was no reference to sex or religion on the form.
"Nice evasive maneuver, Mr. Chekov, but they're still on our tail."
Let me ask it more plainly. Which of the above complaints about David
Koresh's religious or sexual proclivities justified an armed raid by the
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms?
> >> >:Two of the nine who escaped the compound said the fire was deliberately set
> >> >:by cult members.
> >> So, when they talk to the news reporters directly, and relate the same details,
> >> will you believe them?
> >Believe them? I won't even RECOGNIZE them. And neither will anyone else
> >who doesn't know them personally.
> Do you believe they would put impostors before the national tv cameras?
It's not entirely far-fetched. Nobody outside the compound would know
EVERYBODY inside the compound. Don't forget, the BATF admits having
agents inside the compound, in any case.
> At this point, we are getting conflicting reports from the survivors.
> Best wait til more light is shed upon them. Of course, this is no
> good if you believe in eternal darkness.
I'm simply being the devil's advocate. There's reasonable doubt by the
boatload standing in the way of anybody totally swallowing the official
government story on Waco.
--
cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company,
OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
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From: JACK.T.SENDAK@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Jack T. Sendak (V)")
Subject: Baseball card FOR SALE
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Lines: 7
I have a Roberto Clemente 1969 Topps baseball card for sale, in near-mint
condition (really as close to mint condition as you can get). It lists for
$55 in my most recent baseball card pricelist for May. I am offering it for
$50 and I'll pay the certified postage to ship it to you.
Please respond to Jack.T.Sendak@office.wang.com or at 1-800-999-3732 ext. 5269
in Maryland.
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From: lex@optimla.aimla.com (Lex van Sonderen)
Subject: Re: Rumours about 3DO ???
Nntp-Posting-Host: emerald
Organization: Philips Interactive Media of America
Lines: 20
In article <h1p4s4g@zola.esd.sgi.com> erik@westworld.esd.sgi.com (Erik Fortune) writes:
>> better than CDI
>*Much* better than CDI.
Of course, I do not agree. It does have more horsepower. Horsepower is not
the only measurement for 'better'. It does not have full motion, full screen
video yet. Does it have CD-ROM XA?
>> starting in the 4 quarter of 1993
>The first 3DO "multiplayer" will be manufactured by panasonic and will be
>available late this year. A number of other manufacturers are reported to
>have 3DO compatible boxes in the works.
Which other manufacturers?
We shall see about the date.
>All this information is third hand or so and worth what you paid for it:-).
This is second hand, but it still hard to look to the future ;-).
Lex van Sonderen
lex@aimla.com
Philips Interactive Media
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From: maven@mavenry.altcit.eskimo.com (Norman Hamer)
Subject: Electricty
X-AltNet-ID: 222833
Lines: 30
Sigha.
1) Trying to figure out a way to put a halogen beam on my CB360T... Are
there any easy ways to do this (i.e. a "slip-in" bulb replacement)?
2) Was told by a guy at the bike shop that my "not damn near bright enough"
incandescent beam might be caused by a perma-low battery. So I went and
picked up this cheapo "Motorcycle battery and charging system tester"...
Hook it up to the battery, it's got 3 lights on "Very good charge"... Start
the engine (to test the charging system), and it doesn't even REGISTER. It's
supposed to light 5 or 6 lights if everything is OK, but it stays down at
the same point as just the battery.
My question here is, if indeed my charging system is just plain messed up,
how the HECK is the battery staying fully charged? I'd think it would be
darned near dead from supporting my lights, etc...
Do the '75 CB360T's have a problem with their charging system? Are they
just generally slower charging than what is normal for bigger bikes?
Is there an easy fix for this?
3) Happy noise: Put 300 miles on my bike this weekend, finally got myass an
endorsement.... which is REALLY GOOD, because my cage just quit running
worth a damn and I won't have money to repair it until the first... ;) And
the weatherman says "Bright and Sunny all week, 20% chance of rain on
friday"...
<big grin, bugs in teeth>
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From: ()
Subject: Re: Quadra SCSI Problems???
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.
Lines: 28
> ATTENTION: Mac Quadra owners: Many storage industry experts have
> concluded that Mac Quadras suffer from timing irregularities deviating
> from the standard SCSI specification. This results in silent corruption
> of data when used with some devices, including ultra-modern devices.
> Although I will not name the devices, since it is not their fault, an
> example would be a Sony 3.5 inch MO, without the special "Mac-compatible"
> firmware installed. One solution, sometimes, is to disable "blind writes"
>
To the best of my knowledge there aren't any problems with Quadras and
blind transfers. Trouble with blind transfers usually means the programmer
screwed up the TIBs or didn't test their driver with the device in question.
Well designed TIBs poll or loop at every point where delays of >16µsec occur.
This usually occurs at the first byte of each block of a transfer but some
devices can "hiccup" in the middle of blocks. If this happens in the middle
of a blind transfer there is the possibility of losing or gaining a byte
depending on which direction the tranfer was going. In anycase the SCSI Manager
will eventually return a phase error at the end of the transaction because
it is out of sync. Actual data loss would only occur if the driver didn't
pay attention to the errors coming back.
Note that this effect is not caused by anything actually on the SCSI Bus but
rather by the transfer loops inside the SCSI Manager. The problem occurs when
the processor bus errors trying to access the SCSI chip when the next byte
hasn't been clocked yet. Also note that the Bus Error is dealt with by a bus
error handler and doesn't crash the machine...
Clinton Bauder
Apple Computer
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From: mveraart@fel.tno.nl (Mario Veraart)
Subject: Re: Help: Importing .EPS files into Word 2.0
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Lines: 32
jburke@abacus.bates.edu (jburke) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone knew how to view a .EPS in Ms Word 2.0a..
>Here are the first couple of lines if it helps...
>%!PS-Adobe-3.0
>%%Creator: ProWrite
>%%Title: TCWN
>%%Orientation: Portrait
>%%Pages: 12
>%%PageOrder: Ascend
>Can any one Help?
>________________________________________________________________________
>| James Burke | By reading this you agree not to hold |
>| | the writer responsible for any evil |
>| jburke@abacus.bates.edu | happening that may befall you at any time. |
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
We had a similar problem in converting a .EPS file. The solution was simple.
We changed the first line from %!PS-Adobe-3.0 to
%!PS-Adobe-2.0
This fouled the converter, the .EPS file only contained very simple
move and draw statements.
Mario
--
Mario Veraart TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
email: rioj7@fel.tno.nl The Hague The Netherlands
"If all else fails, show pretty pictures and animated videos,
and don't talk about performance", David Bailey
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From: ceng@mdd.comm.mot.com (Curtis Eng)
Subject: Selling a car through a car hunter
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: na
Lines: 16
Anybody got any good/bad experience with selling their car through one of
those car hunters? I'm selling a 1991 Dodge Stealth R/T and I was contacted
by this company called the Markham group based out of Illinois.
They said they have 7-10 buyers in my area interested in my car or they wouldn't
be talking to me. They talked to me for a good 20 minutes asking everything
about my car and said they could sell it no problem. They guaranteed that if
they didn't sell my car in 75 days, I would get my money back ($389) and since
I charged it, I'm protected by federal law which states that if I'm not satisfied,
I would get a refund (which is true). They federal expressed all the paperwork
to me which had a contract stating their policy about the 75 days and such.
I called up the BBB in Illinois and they do not have a file on them which is
good news. So they definitely are a legitimate company but so far, it's been
over week and I have gotten nothing. So how effective are these types of
companies? Anybody care to share their experiences?
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From: aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Alan Walford)
Subject: ATI Ultra Pro Confirmation
Reply-To: aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca
Organization: Eos Systems Inc, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Lines: 25
I have heard many things about the ATI Ultra Pro card. Some have
been positive but most are negative. Could people please confirm
these? (I am interested in the EISA version in particular).
1) The card does not work in a system with 32M RAM.
2) The card works in a 32M system with some switches
set but it is much slower.
3) The card is _interlaced_ in its 24bit (true-colour) modes.
4) The latest build 59 drivers still do not work in many
cases.
5) This card is the fastest full colour card for the money.
6) This card is the greatest thing since sliced bread. ;-)
Thanks for your feedback. I will summarize.
Al
--
Alan Walford Eos Systems Inc., Vancouver,B.C., Canada Tel: 604-734-8655
aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca OR ...uunet!wimsey.bc.ca!eosvcr!aew
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From: dsk@ravl.rice.edu (Dan S. Kirkpatrick)
Subject: Installation problem with X11R5
Organization: Rice University
Lines: 32
I am in the process of installing X11R5 on my Sun Sparcstation 2 and
have run into a problem. I imagine it has something to do with a missing
screen driver, or something along those lines, but figured someone out there
in Internet land might be able to help.
I am installing it on a machine that already has OpenLook installed, and would
like to have both installed concurrently. Thus, I set it up to compile to my
/usr/X11R5 directory. I worked out all the kinks in getting it compiled (with
gcc), so that it compiles without any warnings. I need it installed for PEX-SI,
so I set all those appropriate flags. When I run it, however, I get a message
along the lines of:
Getting interface configuration : Operation not supported on socket
sunOpenFrameBuffer : Inappropriate ioctl for device
Fatal server error : no screens found
Any ideas on how I can fix it? Please respond by e-mail at the below
address.
Thanks in advance.
-Dan
--
"I do not want to be immortalized through my works; I want to be
immortalized through not dying." -Woody Allen
Dan Kirkpatrick | Dept of Electrical & Computer Engineering
~dsk@rice.edu | Rice University
uunet!rice.edu!dsk@uunet.uu.net | Houston, TX
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From: jad@nsa.hp.com (John Dilley)
Subject: compress | crypt foo | des -e -k foo
Distribution: sci
Lines: 12
Organization: Networked Systems Architecture
I have a bunch of questions about the encryption scheme
referenced in the Subject of this message. What is the relative data
privacy provided by the above sequence as compared with straight DES?
Does the addition of compression then encrypting make the cyphertext
significantly harder to crack using current methods than straight DES?
Would running crypt after DES provide greater data privacy? Is it
important to remove the (constant) compress header before encryption?
Thank you, net, for your wisdom.
-- jad --
John A. Dilley <jad@nsa.hp.com>
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From: lofaso@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Bernie Lofaso)
Subject: Re: Fast idle on 88 Ford Ranger
Nntp-Posting-Host: zruty
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin
Lines: 22
ljbartel@naomi.b23b.ingr.com (Les Bartel) writes:
>It did it again. This morning, my 88 Ford Ranger was idling at 10,000 RPM.
>Ok, so I exaggerated a little, but it was idling very fast. It has a 2
>liter carburated engine in it, and no blipping of the throttle would
>cause the idle to drop back to normal (I don't think the linkage is stuck).
>What can I do to fix this problem? This has been a problem from time to
>time, but has straightened itself out - until now. I don't have a tach,
>but by gauging by the sound of the engine, it is idling about twice as fast
>as it should be. This is down from what it was idling at when I pulled up
>at a stop light.
Sometimes a bad choke pull-off diaphram will cause a car to fast idle. The
pull-off, which is vacuum actuated, provides a necessary pull in non-cold
weather conditions to get the idle off the the fast idle cam. Locate the
fast idle cam on your vehicle and see if you can rotate it to produce a
normal idle. If so, locate the diaphram and test it. If you can't apply
suction (via a good piece of rubber vacuum hose) with your mouth that will
cause the diaphram to retract, then it's bad and should be replaced.
Bernie Lofaso
Applied Research Labs
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From: hilmi-er@dsv.su.se (Hilmi Eren)
Subject: Re: ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES (Henrik)
Lines: 53
Nntp-Posting-Host: alban.dsv.su.se
Reply-To: hilmi-er@dsv.su.se (Hilmi Eren)
Organization: Dept. of Computer and Systems Sciences, Stockholm University
|> henrik@quayle.kpc.com writes:
|> The Armenians in Nagarno-Karabagh are simply DEFENDING their RIGHTS
|> to keep their homeland and it is the AZERIS that are INVADING their
|> territorium...
Homeland? First Nagarno-Karabagh was Armenians homeland today
Fizuli, Lacin and several villages (in Azerbadjan)
are their homeland. Can't you see the
the "Great Armenia" dream in this? With facist methods like
killing, raping and bombing villages. The last move was the
blast of a truck with 60 kurdish refugees, trying to
escape the from Lacin, a city that was "given" to the Kurds
by the Armenians.
|> However, I hope that the Armenians WILL force a TURKISH airplane
|> to LAND for purposes of SEARCHING for ARMS similar to the one
|> that happened last SUMMER. Turkey searched an AMERICAN plane
|> (carrying humanitarian aid) bound to ARMENIA.
|>
Don't speak about things you don't know: 8 American Cargo planes
were heading to Armenia. When the Turkish authorities
announced that they were going to search these cargo
planes 3 of these planes returned to it's base in Germany.
5 of these planes were searched in Turkey. The content of
of the other 3 planes? Not hard to guess, is it? It was sure not
humanitarian aid.....
Search Turkish planes? You don't know what you are talking about.
Turkey's government has announced that it's giving weapons
to Azerbadjan since Armenia started to attack Azerbadjan
it self, not the Karabag province. So why search a plane for weapons
since it's content is announced to be weapons?
Hilmi Eren
Dept. of Computer and Systems Sciences, Stockholm University
Sweden
Hilmi-er@dsv.su.se
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From: jake@rambler.Eng.Sun.COM (Jason Cockroft)
Subject: If You Were Pat Burns ...
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Lines: 57
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jake@rambler.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: rambler.eng.sun.com
Keywords: Leaf Wings
What are the Leafs to do? I am a Leaf supporter and
I say the Leafs are going down in four unless there
is nothing short of a miracle or a stroke of genenius hits
Pat Burns.
If you were Pat Burns what would you do?
Living in the Bay area, I do not get enough Leaf coverage
to pull something out of the bag, (I would appreciate comments
on the Leaf/Detroit 3rd line match-ups) but here is the basic
idea...
Andreychuck and Borchevsky have no business playing against
the Wings. They are too small. The key to any Leafs success
will have to be Clark. He is the only centre who can have
any presence within 3-stick lengths of the slot. Where the
hell is Anderson? Anderson can (in days past) get under peoples
skin. Put a little more bluntly, Anderson has to be an asshole.
He used to be good at it. We need him now.
Perhaps, perhaps the Leafs can shut down Detroit's second line.
I was dissappointed to see Shepard and Yserbeart flying last night.
These guys are the "swing" players for the Wings. Last year they
did a major choke in the playoffs and were to blame for the quick
exit of the Wings. **THis has to happen again**. Clark-Anderson-Gilmour
should be able to out hustle this line. Anderson should do a
nasty on Yserbeart. Clark should bang the hell out of Sheppard.
Score Gilmour score!
Suggestions: Clarke-Anderson-Gilmour vs. Sheppard-Yserbeart-??
Andreychuck-Borchevsy-?? vs. Detroit checking line
Toronto's checking line vs. Yzerman-Fedorov-Probert (pray lots)
* as suggested - i would bench Andreychuck and Borchevsky to stir things up
and through a monkey wrench into Detroits game plan. However,
if the Detroit coaching would be dumb enough to play their
checking line against these "finesse" players - well then
let them play.
** Potvin can not be faulted on 5 of the goals - keep him in.
** Van Hellamond can not be faulted for the Leafs demise either.
** The Wings defense shut down the Leafs (especially in the slot).
I hope Pat Burns realizes that his team was out-hit, out-skated, and
out-coached on Monday night. This was not a loss because of poor goaltending
or officiating. This calls for drastic measures ... or tee off is next Monday.
-jake.
GO LEAFS !!!
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From: jbailey@world.std.com (jim bailey)
Subject: Re: What to put in Centris 650 Internal Bay?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Lines: 24
hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian V. Hughes) writes:
>tzs@stein2.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) writes:
>>jbailey@world.std.com (jim bailey) writes:
>>>Yes, you get internal mixing of the analog CD-Audio outputs with
>>>the Mac generated audio on the Mac motherboard. Also you can sample
>>>the CD-Audio using the sound control panel by clicking on the Options
>>>button next to the microphone icon.
>>How do you click on the Options button? I've never seen it undimmed.
> The latest word on this is you have to disconnect the Microphone
>cable on the motherboard. Then the button is supposed to un-dim.
>-Hades
Sorry, I assumed that the the various new machines with the internal
CD-ROM bay worked the same as the Quadra 900. Obviously they don't.
I can use any of three inputs by changing the radio button under
the sound cp on my Quadra 900, Microphone, External, and CD-ROM. I
always leave the microphone plugged in (even though I never use
it).
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Organization: Penn State University
From: <JER114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Subject: Targa format-->text file
Lines: 7
Does anyone know how to convert a targa or similar 24 bit picture into a list
of R G B values and then convert back to targa after doing operations on the p
ixels R G B codes.
ex. Targa ---->000100255pixel 1
001200201pixel 2etc....
If no one can help me with this could someone explain how the 24 bit data is st
ored in the targa file and also how its stored in the 8 bit targas. Thanks
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From: jamesdon@infoserv.com (James A. Donald)
Subject: Re: "Winning" Tax Case!
Organization: The Liberty Trust
Lines: 22
X-Mailer: TMail version 1.13
> Do you have a strange definition of "winning" that you titled this thread
> "Winning Tax Case!"? Sloan *lost*. By a unanimous 3-0 decision that tore
> his arguments to pieces. He went to prison using these arguments. See
> United States v Sloan, 939 F2d 499 (7th Cir 1990), aff'g 704 F Supp 880.
The tax protesters are legally correct, but they are put in jail anyway.
The weakness of the governments legal position is shown by the fact that when
someone protesting tax or gun laws on legal grounds gets a federal jury trial
(very rare) the feds blatantly stack the jury, with the same old faces turning
up time after time.
However Teel should have mentioned that though his advice is legally sound, if
you follow it you will probably wind up in jail.
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|
James A. Donald | Joseph Stalin said: "Ideas are more powerful
| than guns. We would not let our enemies have
jamesdon@infoserv.com | guns, why should we let them have ideas."
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From: alung@megatest.com (Aaron Lung)
Subject: Re: Need to find out number to a phone line
Organization: Megatest Corporation
Lines: 24
In article <20756.2bd16dea@ecs.umass.edu> alee@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>
>Greetings!
>
> Situation: I have a phone jack mounted on a wall. I don't
> know the number of the line. And I don't want
> to call up the operator to place a trace on it.
>
> Question: Is there a certain device out there that I can
> use to find out the number to the line?
> Thanks for any response.
> Al
There is a number you can call which will return a synthesized
voice telling you the number of the line. Unfortunately, for the
life of me I can't remember what it is. The telephone technicians
use it all the time. We used to play around with this in our
dorm rooms since there were multiple phone lines running between
rooms.
sorry!
aaron
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From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Subject: Re: Another NYTimes Yellow-Sheet Editorial (4/4/93)
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Lines: 23
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com
In article <1pmol6INNod9@gap.caltech.edu>, arc@cco.caltech.edu (Aaron Ray Clements) writes:
>
> >* Thanks to the N.R.A., the A.T.F. is prohibited from researching the
> >effectiveness of using taggants in explosives, Taggants are a cheap
> >and technologically feasible microscopic additive that would help
> >investigators at crime scenes - like the World Trade Center bombing
> >- trace the explosives involved.
>
> I want this man to tell me how in the hell you can take the
> explosives used in the WTC bombing, considering that the
> consensus seems to be that the explosive was a fertilizer-based
> one.
Proper counter to this claim: "Forensic analysis of the WTC bomb by
means of taggants would have been as impossible as semantic analysis
of NYT editorials by means of taggants -- the difficulty in both cases
being to have persuaded the bull to consume the taggants before
production of either item."
--
cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company,
OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
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From: jimh@carson.u.washington.edu (James Hogan)
Subject: Re: Yet more Rushdie [Re: ISLAMIC LAW]
Keywords: slander calumny
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Lines: 60
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu
In article <1993Apr16.222525.16024@bnr.ca> (Rashid) writes:
>In article <1993Apr16.171722.159590@zeus.calpoly.edu>,
>jmunch@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (John Munch) wrote:
>>
>> In article <1993Apr15.212943.15118@bnr.ca> (Rashid) writes:
>> >P.S. I'm not sure about this but I think the charge of "shatim" also
>> >applies to Rushdie and may be encompassed under the umbrella
>> >of the "fasad" ruling.
>>
>> Please define the words "shatim" and "fasad" before you use them again.
>
>My apologies. "Shatim", I believe, refers to slandering or spreading
>slander and lies about the Prophets(a.s) - any of the Prophets.
Basically, any prophet I've ever dealt with has either been busy
hawking stolen merchandise or selling swampland house lots in
Florida. Then you hear all the stories of sexual abuse by prophets
and how the families of victims were paid to keep quiet about it.
>It's a kind of willful caulmny and "cursing" that's indicated by the
>word. This is the best explanation I can come up with off the top
>of my head - I'll try and look up a more technical definition when I
>have the time.
Never mind that, but let me tell you about this Chevelle I bought
from this dude (you guessed it, a prophet) named Mohammed. I've
got the car for like two days when the tranny kicks, then Manny,
my mechanic, tells me it was loaded with sawdust! Take a guess
whether "Mohammed" was anywhere to be found. I don't think so.
>
>"Fasad" is a little more difficult to describe. Again, this is not
>a technical definition - I'll try and get that later. Literally,
Oh, Mohammed!
>the word "fasad" means mischief. But it's a mischief on the order of
>magnitude indicated by the word "corruption". It's when someone who
>is doing something wrong to begin with, seeks to escalate the hurt,
Yeah, you, Mohammed!
>disorder, concern, harm etc. (the mischief) initially caused by their
>actions. The "wrong" is specifically related to attacks against
>"God and His Messenger" and mischief, corruption, disorder etc.
You slimy mass of pond scum!
>resulting from that. The attack need not be a physical attack and there
>are different levels of penalty proscribed, depending on the extent
>of the mischief and whether the person or persons sought to
>"make hay" of the situation. The severest punishment is death.
Yeah, right! You're the one should be watching your butt. You and
your buddy Allah. The stereo he sold me croaked after two days.
Your ass is grass!
Jim
Yeah, that's right, Jim.
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From: VEAL@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Subject: Re: Clinton wants National ID card, aka USSR-style "Internal Passport"
Lines: 40
Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education
In article <1993Apr15.201756.29141@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes:
>In article <1993Apr14.175931.66210@cc.usu.edu> slp9k@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>> (BTW - Which parts should be secure? Criminal
>>> records, ie convictions, are typically considered public information,
>>> so should that info be secure? Remember, the population includes
>>> parents checking prospective childcare worker.)
>
>> Parent's checking a babysitter shouldn't need access to the information
>>stored in the card.
>
>Sure they do. The prospective sitter may have a nasty habit of molesting
>kids three or four months into the job. The references may not have
>known him long enough or may not have picked up on this yet.
>
>Remember, criminal conviction info is public, so if you're going to
>argue for an ID card, other people are going to have a strong argument
>that it disclose public info.
As perhaps some insight into how this sort of thing works, the
local college newspaper had a big crusade to have the U.T. police
release crime stats. (The school claimed that to do so would violate
federal education records privacy laws). They swore up and down they
weren't interested in student discipline records, only for stats so people
could make an evaluation of how safe the campus was.
It was barely a week after crime stats were released before the
Daily Beacon had an editorial calling for student disciplinary stats
to be released, because they complained certain segments of the campus
population were treated administratively rather than turned over to the
police and therefore the criminal states weren't accurate.
What people say they want public today may not be what they
say tomorrow.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Veal Univ. of Tenn. Div. of Cont. Education Info. Services Group
PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu - "I still remember the way you laughed, the day
your pushed me down the elevator shaft; I'm beginning to think you don't
love me anymore." - "Weird Al"
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From: harmon@math.ohio-state.edu (Jim Harmon)
Subject: MIDI Keyboard $225
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Lines: 13
Distribution: cmh
NNTP-Posting-Host: ford.mps.ohio-state.edu
Roland HS-60 (SynthPlus 60)
- 6 voice polyphonic fully programmable analog synthesizer
- 61 full size keys
- MIDI
- Memory to store 128 patches
- built in speakers
- Connectors: MIDI in thru out, Input(2), Expansion Pedal, Head Phones,
Tape Load & Save, Patch Shift, Pedal Hold, Output(2)
Asking $225
harmon@mps.ohio-state.edu
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From: j3david@sms.business.uwo.ca (James David)
Subject: Plus minus stat
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Nntp-Posting-Host: sms.business.uwo.ca
Lines: 144
>Post: 51213 of 51227
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
>From: maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard)
>Subject: Re: Plus minus stat...
>Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University,
>Sudbury, ON Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 21:41:29 GMT
>In <4LD32B2w165w@sms.business.uwo.ca>
>j3david@sms.business.uwo.ca (James David) writes:
>>It was Bryan Trottier, not Denis Potvin. It was a vicious
>>'boarding' from behind...Trottier was given a major.
>Perhaps it was Trottier. It happened behind the Habs goal if
>I recall. Gainey simply didn't have his head up as he was
>picking up the puck.
>But Roger, what the hell does this have to do with Gainey's
>skill as a hockey player? If Probert smashes Gilmour's head
>into the boards next week, will that diminish your assessment
>of Gilmour's skills?
>If Gilmour was taken completely by surprise, as Gainey was, then
>yeah, I would have to say that Doug wasn't playing
>"technically" smart hockey. In any case, to claim as Greg did,
>that Gainey *never* made a technical mistake is absolutely
>ludicrous.
Later on, in your posting, you make reference to "putting words
into other people's mouths"...I would suggest that your last
paragraph can only be interpreted in one way...namely, that I,
along with Greg, claim that Gainey never made a technical
mistake. If you actually read what I've written, you will find
that I make no such claim...soooo, if logic serves me well,
you're contradicting yourself.
>>>Gainey was a plugger. And when the press runs out of things
>>>to say about the stars on dynasties they start to hype the
>>>pluggers. Grant Fuhr, Essa Tikkannen, Butch Goring, Bob
>>>Nystrom, Bob Gainey, Doug Jarvis, Derek Sanderson, Wayne
>>>Cashman, Bob Baun, Bob Pulford, Ralph Backstrom, Henri
>>>Richard, Dick Duff...and so on...
>>I would take Fuhr and Sanderson off of the latter.
>Good for you. You'd only be displaying your ignorance of
>course, but to each his own...
Roger, I'm not sure here, but I think "ignorance" is really a
function of "a lack of knowledge" and not "formulating an
opinion"...but hey, if you need to take a cheap shot, then by all
means go ahead...that's if it makes you feel better.
>>I think Gainey would be honoured to know that you've included
>>him
>I think Gainey should feel honoured to know that he is
>remembered at all.
My word, such vehemence against poor ol' Bob Gainey. Why does
he bother you so much...he was an effective player for his style
of play.
>>on this list. I also think you have a relatively naive view
>>about what wins a hockey game...pluggers are an integral part
>>of
>Certainly pluggers are an integral part of any team. And that
>is simply because there are not enough solid two-way players to
>go around. Who would you rather have as your "checking"
>centre? Doug Gilmour or Doug Jarvis? For that matter I would
>take either Gretzky or Mario as my "checking" centres. Do you
>think Gretzky could cover Bob Gainey?
I'm really sorry Roger, but you have lost me completely here.
Why don't you ask me if I would rather have Jesus Christ,
himself, in nets?
Now, if you were to compare, say for example, Bob Gainey with Guy
Carbonneau, you would have a balanced comparison.
>>any team. The Selke is designed to acknowledge their
>>contribution...I think that most people understand that it's
>>not the Nobel Prize...so settle down.
>You're wrong again. The Selke is awarded to the forward that
>does the best job defensively and this may or may not be the
>best plugger. If Gilmour does the best defensive job in the
>league I don't see why he should be out of the running simply
>because he also contributes offen-sively.
I'm wrong AGAIN...hmmm, let's see...where was I wrong in the
first place? I'm only guessing here, Rog, but I have a feeling
that you've setup a "You're wrong again" macro key on your
machine.
I agree that my use of the word plugger is simplistic...but I
think you know what I'm getting at. I would also like to point
out that Gilmour's potential as a Selke-winner was never part of
the debate...are you asking me for an opinion? If so, I think
there are far too many other deserving players to include Gilmour
among the candidates.
>>Settle down? If you think that I have likened the Selke to the
>>Nobel prize then I suggest that you had best "settle down".
>>And if you are going to try to put words in my mouth, let me
>>suggest that you "settle down" before you bother following up
>>on my postings.
I would suggest that your comment: "And when the press runs out
of things to say about the stars on dynasties they start to hype
the pluggers. Grant Fuhr, Essa Tikkannen, Butch Goring, Bob
Nystrom, Bob Gainey, Doug Jarvis, Derek Sanderson, Wayne Cashman,
Bob Baun, Bob Pulford, Ralph Backstrom, Henri Richard, Dick
Duff...and so on..." demonstrates a blanket disregard for these
individuals as contributors to the game...so yes, settle
down...nobody has claimed that they are hockey gods.
>>congenially, as always,
>>
>>jd
>>
>>--
>>James David
>>david@student.business.uwo.ca
>You might consider developing your own style. After all,
>imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and I am quite sure
>that flattery is not your intention.
C'mon...it has a nice ring to it...and admit it, you had a good
laugh.
congenially, as always,
jd
--
James David
david@student.business.uwo.ca
j3david@sms.business.uwo.ca (James David)
Western Business School -- London, Ontario
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From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tree of Schnopia)
Subject: Re: New Study Out On Gay Percentage
Nntp-Posting-Host: uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Lines: 26
In <15378@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>The article also contains numbers on the number of sexual partners.
>The median number of sexual partners for all men 20-39 was 7.3.
>Compared to the table I have already posted from Masters, Johnson,
>and Kolodny showing male homosexual partners, it is apparent that
>homosexual men are dramatically more promiscuous than the general
>male population. It's a shame that we don't have a breakdown for
>straight men vs. gay/bi men -- that would show even more dramatically
>how much more promiscuous gay/bi men are.
Possibly because gay/bi men are less likely to get married?
What was the purpose of this post? If it was to show a mindless obsession
with statistics, an incredibly flawed system of reasoning, and a repellent
hatemonger agenda, then the purpose was accomplished with panache.
(a) Get a clue. (b) Get a life. (c) Get out of my face. I'm not in yours.
Drewcifer
--
----bi Andrew D. Simchik SCHNOPIA!
\ ---- as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu TreeWater
\\ /
\/ "Words Weren't Made For Cowards"--Happy Rhodes
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From: sepinwal@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Alan Sepinwall)
Subject: Re: Jewish Baseball Players?
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, School of Arts and Sciences
Lines: 18
Nntp-Posting-Host: mail.sas.upenn.edu
In article <mssC5K47z.Fur@netcom.com> mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer) writes:
>
>
>Polish and Jewish are *not* mutually exclusive.
I didn't mean to offend or anything, I'm just quoting Stanky himself on
the subject. I remember one time last year he was being interviewed by
ESPN, and the interviewer (can't remember who), asked Stanky if he was
Jewish because he (the interviewer) was Jewish and wanted to see more
Jewish ballplayers. To which Stanky replied, "I'm Polish, not Jewish."
So maybe that wasn't the most PC thing for Stanky to say, and maybe I was
a little naive when I posted it. I think we should just devote this
subject to finding actual Jewish ballplayers (I myself am Jewish and the
only ones I ever knew until now were Koufax, Greenberg, and Blomberg).
-Alan
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