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From: psyrobtw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert Weiss)
Subject: [lds] Thief goes to Paradise; Kermit goes off tangent
Organization: University at Buffalo
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Nntp-Posting-Host: ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
Kermit Tensmeyer quoted from a few sources and then wrote something.
I will attempt to construct a facsimile of what was previously said, and
then address Kermit's offering.
John Redelfs originally wrote...
jr> I learned that a man cannot frustrate justice by repenting on his
jr> death bed because repentance is more than a feeling of remorse. It
jr> requires faith in Christ proven by following him, by keeping his
jr> commandments. Such cannot be accomplished on ones deathbed.
Tom Albrecht responded...
ta> So Jesus must have lied to the thief on the cross.
John Redelfs wrote back that...
jr> Paradise and salvation are not the same thing. Salvation is better.
jr> Refer to John 14:2.
I responded to John that...
rw> I don't see the effort to equate salvation with paradise.
rw>
rw> Rather, I see implied the fact that only those who are saved
rw> may enter paradise.
To which Kermit wrote...
kt> Incomplete reference:
kt>
kt> See also the discussion: Did Jesus go into Hell in the BibleStudy group
kt> for the arguments that Paradise and Hell(sheol) are places after death
kt> The discussion (no LDS were involved as far as I could see) argued using
kt> standard Christian argument from the Bible that pretty much support the
kt> LDS position.
kt>
kt> Christ went to paridise after his death and burial.
kt>
kt> He taught the prisoners and freed them from Darkness.
kt>
kt> When he was resurrected, he had not yet ascended to his father.
kt>
kt> The arguement centered around what was or wasn't the proper biblical
kt> terms for those places.
I respond.
The question that was raised was not if Jesus went to infernal Paradise
before entering into heaven. No one has made a point for or against
that issue, nor have they compared the LDS position against orthodox
belief. The infernal paradise is held to be Abraham's bosom (Luke 16),
the place of the righteous dead in sheol (equivalent to hades).
The point that was raised by John was that someone could not repent
on their death bed. Tom Albrecht pointed to a Biblical example that was
contradictory to what John's position put forward. The thief on the
cross was promised by Christ to be with Him in Paradise, the abode of
the righteous dead. John's position possibly needs to be reworked.
Kermit needs to address the topic at hand.
=============================
Robert Weiss
psyrobtw@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (OrioleFan@uiuc)
Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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tobias@convex.com (Allen Tobias) writes:
>In article <1993Apr15.024246.8076@Virginia.EDU> ejv2j@Virginia.EDU ("Erik Velapoldi") writes:
>>This happened about a year ago on the Washington DC Beltway.
>>Snot nosed drunken kids decided it would be really cool to
>>throw huge rocks down on cars from an overpass. Four or five
>>cars were hit. There were several serious injuries, and sadly
>>a small girl sitting in the front seat of one of them was struck
>>in the head by one of the larger rocks. I don't recall if she
>>made it, but I think she was comatose for a month or so and
>>doctors weren't holding out hope that she'd live.
The girl's OK, actually, and she recovered well enough to go home. I
don't know if she has any permanent damage, though. Just in case anybody was
concerned...
>>
>>What the hell is happening to this great country of ours? I
>>can see boyhood pranks of peeing off of bridges and such, but
>>20 pound rocks??! Has our society really stooped this low??
>>
>>Erik velapold
If people start forcing others to take responsibility for their actions
things like this wouldn't happen. Untill we stop blaming outside causes, and
start blaming the criminals, we will continue to let things like this happen.
--
Chintan Amin <The University of Illinois UrbanaChampaign> mail: llama@uiuc.edu
******************************Neil Peart, (c)1981*****************************
*"Quick to judge, Quick to Anger, Slow to understand, Ignorance and Prejudice*
*And********Fear********Walk********************Hand*********in*********Hand"*
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From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr)
Subject: Re: X Toolkits
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Lines: 45
In article <C5y8wJ.3zE@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> papresco@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes:
>I am considering making a reasonably large application for free
>distribution (probably copylefted). I am going to use X. Now I'm
The following packages meet your criteria in that they are PD and
present an aesthetically pleasant graphical interface to the users.
If you can use 386bsd:
there is xview3 (OpenLook)
there is Interviews which looks a little like Motif
there is gopath a very nice C++ toolkit for Athena Widgets and Motif
which is simpler
and better than interviews and you will enjoy
technical support from Bull via e-mail
It has a nice draw program (it uses motif) which can be used
to create graphical front-end to programs.
The data format is called streams which you can feed
to your programs. I ported gopath on an internet machine
which is gone but if you use gcc-2.3.3 with minimal effort
gopath can be ported to 386bsd.
Last but not least, gopath interfaces to toolkits via a driver
module. They have an MS-Windows driver module for instance.
Also, many have written extensions to tk/tcl thus allowing powerful
applications. For instance, tcl_nm has snmp extensions for tk/tcl.
With ease, I can now combine snmp network operations with graphs,
photo-widget, graphical interface, file operations, database
operations,etc.. The author of tcl_nm mail me a simple network
management application which was about 80 lines long - it displayed
various environmental parameters from a router. I wrote a simple
strip chart script for displaying Real-Time ip received
packets/seconds.
Hope this helps,
Amancio Hasty
--
This message brought to you by the letters X and S and the number 3
Amancio Hasty |
Home: (415) 495-3046 | ftp-site depository of all my work:
e-mail hasty@netcom.com | sunvis.rtpnc.epa.gov:/pub/386bsd/incoming
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From: pmw0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PHILLIP MICHAEL WILLIAMS)
Subject: X Windows for windows
Organization: Lehigh University
Lines: 7
Are there any X window servers that can run under MS-Windows?? I only know of
Deskview but have not seen it in action. Are there any others??
Thanks in advance.
Phil
pmw0@Lehigh.edu
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Subject: Re: Looking for Electronics Dept Info in Austrailia
From: MATGBB@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (BYRNES,Graham)
Organization: La Trobe University
In-Reply-To: hjkim@hyowon.pusan.ac.kr's message of Mon, 19 Apr 93 00:38:00 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24
Lines: 20
In <1993Apr19.003800.18288@worak.kaist.ac.kr> hjkim@hyowon.pusan.ac.kr writes:
> Hi Netters!
>
> I am looking for the list of universities in Austrailia, which has electronics department.
> I am considering to spend a year for research in Austrailia about communication area.ýé I am interested in Mobile communication areas and spread spectrum communications etc.
> But I don't have any information about Austrailian Universities.
> Can anybody recommend a good university in coûßmmunic÷³ation area?
> Any comments will be welcomed!
>
> Bye.
>
> Jaehyung Kim
>
Well, I honestly don't know if they are good, bad or indifferent, but there
is an electronics dept here at La Trobe:
La Trobe University, Bundoora VIC 3083 Australia
Fax +613 471 0524
Chairman is Prof Ian White. Sorry, don't have an email address.
Graham B
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From: drp@camelot.bradley.edu (Douglas Pokorny)
Subject: ISA bus pin question; re: Diamond Speedstar 24X
Nntp-Posting-Host: camelot.bradley.edu
Organization: Bradley University
Lines: 33
Today I recieved a in-warranty replacement for my
Diamond Speedstar 24X. On the card I've noticed a few
changes; mostly there is a new jumper labeled JP5.
(The card is revision 5A)
My detective work has shown that this jumper simply
connects/disconnects the BALE line on the 64-pin part
of the ISA bus.
The question I have is simple:
To those people who own this revision of the Speedstar 24X,
what does the manual claim that this jumper does?
To anyone with an ISA-reference, what is the function of the
BALE line?
On a related note:
Are there any FTP sites which contain a descriptive reference to
the ISA bus? My motherboard manual has a simple pin-to-signal-name
chart, but that is it.
-Douglas
_________________________________________________________
________ ___ ___
|_ __ \ | | | | Douglas R. Pokorny
| |__| / | | | | drp@camelot.bradley.edu
| __ \ | | | | CS major/Geisert Hall Resident
_| |__| | | \__/ |
|________/ \______/ "Conveniently located in the
Bradley University armpit of Illinois... Peoria"
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From: dtate+@pitt.edu (David M. Tate)
Subject: Re: Braves Pitching UpdateDIR
Organization: Department of Industrial Engineering
Lines: 54
sbp002@acad.drake.edu said:
>> In article 2482@adobe.com, snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
>>>Every single piece of evidence we can find points to Major League Baseball
>>>being 50% offense, 50% defense. A run scored is just as important as a run
>>>prevented.
>Of course a run scored is just as important as a run prevented.
>Just as a penny saved is a penny earned. Enough with the cliches.
It's not a cliche, and (unlike your comments below) it's not a tautology.
It needn't have been true. If every pitcher in baseball were essentially
the same in quality (i.e. if the variance of pitching ability were much
smaller than the variance of batting ability), then scoring runs would be
much more important than preventing them, simply because the *ability* to
actively prevent runs would be much weaker.
>My point is that IF the Braves starters are able to live up to
>their potential, they won't need much offensive support.
If that's your point, you should have said so. What you in fact said was
"Pitching and defense win championships", and later "Pitching is the essence
of baseball". Neither of which says what you are now claiming was "your
point", and neither of which is true.
>It seems to me that when quality pitchers take the
>mound, the other teams score less runs. The team that scores the most
>runs wins.
And you accuse Sherri of mouthing cliches!?
>This puts the team with the better pitching at the advantage
>(providing they can stop the opposing team from scoring runs). A low
>scoring game would clearly benefit the Braves.
It's not clear to me at all that this is true. In high-scoring games, the
team with the better offense wins a high percentage of the time. In low-
scoring games, the split is essentially 50/50 regardless of team ability.
>They should have many
>low scoring games due to their excellent pitching and below average hitting.
>On the flip side, if you had a starting lineup of great offensive players,
>I would be arguing that this team would not need great pitchers.
I thought you said "pitching and defense win championships" and "pitching is
the essence of baseball".
--
David M. Tate (dtate+@pitt.edu) | Greetings, sir, with bat not quick
member IIE, ORSA, TIMS, SABR | Hands not soft, eye not discerning
| And in Denver they call you a slugger?
"The Big Catullus" Galarraga | And compare you to my own Mattingly!?
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From: timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Timlin)
Subject: Re: Best Homeruns
Nntp-Posting-Host: spot.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Lines: 17
dswartz@osf.org (Dan Swartzendruber) writes:
>In article <4200419@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell) writes:
>>I'd have to say the most impressive HRs I've ever see came from Dave Kingman
>>and his infamous moon-raker drives...
>I remember one he hit circa 1976 at Wrigley Field that went across
>the street (in dead center field) and hit a house on the roof. He
>whiffed a lot, but when he *did* connect, watch out!
My favorite was the Barry Foote homer that bounced on Waveland and through
a second floor window across the street. Second though, would be the Kong
drive that was last seen bouncing down the street that dead ends to the
park at Waveland.
Mike Timlin
timlin@spot.colorado.edu
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From: steerr@h01.UUCP (R. William Steer)
Subject: X server for NT?
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 5
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: cognac!sunpitt!expo.lcs.mit.edu!xpert@sunpitt.East.Sun.COM
Does anybody have an X server for NT that they're willing to share files
or experiences?
Bill Steer
Westinghouse
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From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Subject: Re: Yet more Rushdie [Re: ISLAMIC LAW]
Organization: Boston University Physics Department
Lines: 57
In article <1993Apr15.215833.15970@bnr.ca> (Rashid) writes:
>> What about the Twelve Imams, who he considered incapable of error
>> or sin? Khomeini supports this view of the Twelve Imans. This is
>> heresy for the very reasons I gave above.
>I would be happy to discuss the issue of the 12 Imams with you, although
>my preference would be to move the discussion to another
>newsgroup. I feel a philosophy or religion group would be more
>appropriate.
I think many reading this group would also benefit by knowing how
deviant the view _as I've articulated it above_ (which may not be
the true view of Khomeini) is from the basic principles of Islam.
So that the non-muslim readers of this group will see how far from
the simple basics of Islam such views are on the face of them. And
if they are _not_ in contradiction with the basics of Islam, how
subtle such issues are and how it seems sects exist in Islam while
they are explicitly proscribed by the Qur'an.
>The topic is deeply embedded in the world view of Islam and the
>esoteric teachings of the Prophet (S.A.). Heresy does not enter
>into it at all except for those who see Islam only as an exoteric
>religion that is only nominally (if at all) concerned with the metaphysical
>substance of man's being and nature.
In my opinion considering any human being as having a substance
or metaphysical fundamentally different from that of any other human
being _is_ a heretical notion and one proscribed by Islam.
>From your posts, you seem fairly well versed in Sunni thought. You
>should seek to know Shi'ite thought through knowledgeable
>Shi'ite authors as well - at least that much respect is due before the
>charge of heresy is levelled.
Absolutely! I would be interested in discussing this privately and
I am interested in hearing how one might try to make the concept of
error-free and sinless human beings philosophically consistent with
the teachings of the Qur'an. However, _prima facie_ such attemptsa
are highly susceptible to degenerating into monkery, explicitly
proscribed by the Qur'an.
>As salaam a-laikum
Alaikum Wassalam
Gregg
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From: n8643084@henson.cc.wwu.edu (owings matthew)
Subject: Re: Ranger vs. S-10 opinions
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Apr15.203313.24290
Organization: Western Washington University
Lines: 16
If your buying a compact pickup do yourself a favor and wait a few months
for the 1994 GMC sonoma. Magazines are saying it is day and night over the
current truck. It's georgeous, solid, and fast (200hp Vortec 4.3 V-6).
Should whip the Ranger in every area too (accept maybe payload). And always
pick a GMC over a Chevy. GMC's are always so much better looking. Man, I
miss the Comanche.
Marty and Matt Owings
'87 250 ninja type rider dudes
"It's a feeling that we all wanna know
and it's an obsession to some
to keep the world in you rearview mirror
while you try to run down the sun"
"Wheels" by Rhestless Heart.
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From: jek@icf.hrb.com (Joe Karolchik)
Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)...
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.
Lines: 31
(I deleted your name because I don't want to sound accusative in my remark)
>
> This is a two-sided problem. Unfortunately our culture has been deteriorating over time.
> The "breeding" of these low-life's is getting worse; our justice system is at best
> extremely weak to handle these problems. That is why low-abiding citizens should have
> the power to protect themselves and their property using deadly force if necessary
> anywhere a threat is imminent.
>
> My Camaro (my pride and joy) got stolen right out of my driveway a few years back.
> The persons that did that were eventually caught (lucky for me!) but not before
> having trashed the car.
>
> On another occasion, on my way from Texas to Florida, I had stopped in a small motel
> for the night in a small town somewhere in Florida. About 5 youths were disturbing my
> car, setting off the alarm and challenging me to come out. When I and another tenant
> walked out with a 357 Magnum and a 45 automatic respectively, they vanished.
> Needless to say, I immediately packed-up and left.
>
> Watch out for car-jacking and staged accidents. They can be deadly!
>
I'm not going to argue the issue of carrying weapons, but I would ask you if
you would have thought seriously about shooting a kid for setting off your
alarm? I can think of worse things in the world. Glad you got out of there
before they did anything to give you a reason to fire your gun.
We can all ask "what's happening to society these days", but don't forget to
ask another important question too: What effort am I expending to make it any
different than it is?
Just my thoughts,
Joe Karolchik
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From: mfrhein@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Frederick Rhein)
Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!!
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Lines: 74
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In article <93109.13404334AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET> writes:
>I will be surprised if this post makes it past the censors,
>but here goes:
>
>Monday, 19 April, 1993 13:30 EDT
>
> MURDER MOST FOUL!!
>
>CNN is reporting as I write this that the ATF has ignited all
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I watched the CNN report and I never heard them report that the ATF started the
fire. They did speculate that the type of CS gas might have _accidentaly_
started the fire.
>the buildings of the Branch Dividian ranch near Waco, TX. The
>lies from ATF say "holes were made in the walls and 'non-lethal' tear
>gas pumped in". A few minutes after this started the whole thing went up.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From my understanding of the CNN report it was 6 HOURS after they started.
>ALL buildings are aflame. NO ONE HAS ESCAPED. I think it obvious that
>the ATF used armored flame-thrower vehicles to pump in unlit
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The track vehicle that I saw in the vicinity of the building where fire was
first noticed looked more like an armored recovery vehicle (the type used to
tow tanks of battle fields) and not an armored flame-thrower vehicle.
>napalm, then let the wood stove inside ignite it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
As someone else has pointed out, why would the stove be in use on a warm day
in Texas. It seems to me that it would be very poor planing to hope for a wood
stove to ignite the "napalm" when the stove would probably not be in use. And
I doubt that it would have taken 6 hours to ignite it.
>
>THIS IS MURDER!
>
>ATF MURDERERS! BUTCHERS!!
>
>THIS IS GENOCIDAL MASS-SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, INCLUDING CHILDREN!
>
>I have predicted this from the start, but God, it sickens me to see
>it happen. I had hoped I was wrong. I had hoped that there was
>still some shred of the America I grew up with, and loved, left
>alive. I was wrong. The Nazis have won.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Right Clinton is in office. (Sorry I couldn't resist, please no flames :))
>
>I REPEAT, AS OF THIS TIME THERE ARE **NO SURVIVORS**!
>
>God help us all.
>
>
>PLEASE CROSSPOST -- DON'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THE SLAUGHTER OF THE CHILDREN!
>
>
>W. K. Gorman - an American in tears.
In short Mr. Gorman (I am assuming Mr. as a title because I don't think a woman
would be stupid enough to make this post) I don't know what episode of CNN you
were watching but it obviously was not the same one that I was watching or your
tears seamed to have blured your hearing along with your eye sight.
Please excuse any mispelled words as I am a product of the Arkansas education
system which Slick Willie of the "Double Bubba Ticket" has so greately improved
during his tenour as Governer of my great state (taking it from 49th in the
nation in 1980 and allowing it to drop to 51st, how I don't know, and bringing
it to 44st and back to either 48th or 49th in 1990--sorry I can't rember the
source of these numbers but they can be found).
Michael F. Rhein
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From: cs902043@ariel.yorku.ca (SHAWN LUDDINGTON)
Subject: Re: 1993 NHL Draft
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Lines: 51
In article <93109.134719IO91748@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Jon Carr <IO91748@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>When is the draft this year? And will there be any coverage?
>I know the upcomming NFL draft is on ESPN.
>
>Anyone got the details?
>
>Paul Kariya 1993 #1 Pick! (No. 2 perhaps? He won't last long!) :-)
>
I don't know the exact coverage in the states. In Canada it is covered
by TSN, so maybe ESPN will grab their coverage! I don't know!
As for the picks
Ottawa picks #1 which means it is almost 100% that Alexander Daigle will
go #1. He'll either stay or be traded in Montreal or Quebec. IMO I would
take Kariya. He should alot of leadership in the NCAA and so far in
the World Championships. Daigle didn't show this for his junior team.
San Jose will then get Kariya.
Tampa Bay will either go for a russian Kozlov (I think that's it) or a
defenseman Rob Niedemeyer (probably spelt the last name wrong)
Because of expansion I won't go further but I will name other of the
blue chip prospects
- Chris Gratton
- Chris Pridham
- a swedish player who I can't remember his name
Draft Order
-----------
1) Ottawa
2) San Jose
3) Tampa Bay
4) South Florida or Anahiem
5) South Florida or Anahiem
6) Hartford
7) Edmonton
8) Dallas
9) NY Rangers
10) Philadelphia
the 8th thru 10th picks could be wrong - I don't have the standings here
and am guessing
(In my mind there are 8 top notch prospects in the draft, with Kariya
leading the way but not going #1)
Shawn - GO CAPS (two first round picks for the next three years - THANKS
ST.LOUIS or should I say RON CARON and SCOTT STEVENS)
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From: e_p@unl.edu (edgar pearlstein)
Subject: Legal definition of religion
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln
Lines: 8
.
It's my understanding that the U.S. Supreme Court has never
given a legal definition of religion. This despite the many
cases involving religion that have come before the Court.
Can anyone verify or falsify this?
Has any state or other government tried to give a legal
definition of religion?
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From: nicho@vnet.IBM.COM (Greg Stewart-Nicholls)
Subject: Re: Why not give $1 billion to first year-long moon residents?
Reply-To: nicho@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.1
X-X-From: nicho@vnet.ibm.com
<1993Apr20.001428.724@indyvax.iupui.edu>
Lines: 14
In <1993Apr20.001428.724@indyvax.iupui.edu> tffreeba@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
>Let's play a game - What would be a reasonable reward? What companies would
>have a reasonable shot at pulling off such a feat? Just where in the
>budget would the reward come from? Should there be a time limit? Would a
>straight cash money award be enough or should we throw in say . . .
>exclusive mining rights for the first fifty years? You get the idea.
A cash award is OK. A time limit would be nice. You can't give away
mining rights (assuming there's anything to mine) because you don't own
them.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
.sig files are like strings ... every yo-yo's got one.
Greg Nicholls ... nicho@vnet.ibm.com (business) or
nicho@olympus.demon.co.uk (private)
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From: ricardo@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ricardo Hernandez Muchado)
Subject: Re: Rumours about 3DO ???
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Nntp-Posting-Host: rs43873.rchland.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Rochester
Lines: 35
In article <1993Apr19.121925.14451@microware.com>, jejones@microware.com (James Jones) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr15.164940.11632@mercury.unt.edu> Sean McMains <mcmains@unt.edu> writes:
|> >In article <1993Apr15.144843.19549@rchland.ibm.com> Ricardo Hernandez
|> >Muchado, ricardo@rchland.vnet.ibm.com writes:
|> >> And CD-I's CPU doesn't help much either. I understand it is
|> >>a 68070 (supposedly a variation of a 68000/68010) running at something
|> >>like 7Mhz. With this speed, you *truly* need sprites.
|> >
|> >Wow! A 68070! I'd be very interested to get my hands on one of these,
|> >especially considering the fact that Motorola has not yet released the
|> >68060, which is supposedly the next in the 680x0 lineup. 8-D
|>
|> Don't get too excited; Signetics, not Motorola, gave the 68070 its number.
|> The 68070, if I understand rightly, uses the 68000 instruction set, and has
|> an on-chip serial port and DMA. (It will run at up to 15 MHz--I'm typing
|> at a computer using a 68070 running at that rate, so I know that it can
|> do so--so I seriously doubt the clock rate that ricardo@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
|> claims.)
|>
|> James Jones
Just because the 68070 can run upto 15Mhz doesn't mean the CD-I
is running at that speed. I said -> I understand it is a 68070 running
at something like 7Mhz. I am not sure, but I think I read this a long
time ago.
Anyway, still with 15Mhz, you need sprites for a lot of tricks for
making cool awesome games (read psygnosis).
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Raist New A1200 owner 320<->1280 in x, 200<->600 in y
in 256,000+ colors from a 24-bit palette. **I LOVE IT!**<- New Low Fat .sig
*don't e-mail me* -> I don't have a valid address nor can I send e-mail
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From: mayne@ds3.scri.fsu.edu (Bill Mayne)
Subject: Re: Ancient Books
Organization: Supercomputer Computations Research Institute
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In article <Apr.13.00.09.02.1993.28445@athos.rutgers.edu> miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>[Any former atheists converted by argument?}
>This is an excellent question and I'll be anxious to see if there are
>any such cases. I doubt it. In the medieval period (esp. 10th-cent.
>when Aquinas flourished) argument was a useful tool because everyone
>"knew the rules." Today, when you can't count on people knowing even
>the basics of logic or seeing through rhetoric, a good argument is
>often indistinguishable from a poor one.
The last sentence is ironic, since so many readers of
soc.religion.christian seem to not be embarrassed by apologists such as
Josh McDowell and C.S. Lewis. The above also expresses a rather odd sense
of history. What makes you think the masses in Aquinas' day, who were
mostly illiterate, knew any more about rhetoric and logic than most people
today? If writings from the period seem elevated consider that only the
cream of the crop, so to speak, could read and write. If everyone in
the medieval period "knew the rules" it was a matter of uncritically
accepting what they were told.
Bill Mayne
[This may be unfair to Lewis. The most prominent fallacy attributed
to him is the "liar, lunatic, and lord". As quoted by many
Christians, this is a logical fallacy. In its original context, it
was not. --clh]
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From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: Ok, So I was a little hasty...
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
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In article <speedy.155@engr.latech.edu> speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer) writes:
|In article <jnmoyne-190493111630@moustic.lbl.gov> jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne) writes:
|> What does "DWI" stand for ? I thought it was "DUI" for Driving Under
|>Influence, so here what does W stand for ?
|
|Driving While Intoxicated.
Actually, I beleive "DWI" normally means "Driving While Impaired" rather
than "Intoxicated", at least it does in the states I've lived in...
|This was changed here in Louisiana when a girl went to court and won her
|case by claiming to be stoned on pot, NOT intoxicated on liquor!
One can be imparied without necessarily being impaired by liquor - drugs,
not enough sleep, being a total moron :-), all can impair someone etc... I'm
surprised this got her off the hook... Perhaps DWI in Lousiana *is* confined
to liquor?
Randy Davis Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot {uunet!ucsd}!megatek!randy
DoD #0013
"But, this one goes to *eleven*..." - Nigel Tufnel, _Spinal Tap_
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From: kilroy@gboro.rowan.edu
Subject: Re: Certainty and Arrogance
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My last article included this quote:
"If any substantial number of [ talk.religion.misc ] readers read some
Wittgenstein, 60% of the postings would disappear. (If they *understood*
some Wittgenstein, 98% would disappear. :-))" -- Michael L Siemon
Someone called `boundary' wrote:
> This quote seems a little arrogant, don't you think?
There is a convention called a `smiley', which looks like this: :-) .
It is supposed to look like a sideways smiley-face, and indicates that the
preceding comment is supposed to be funny.
And, I'll note that I have participated on talk.religion.misc for over
five years -- I'd say Mr Siemon was not too far off. 8^)
*
In the meat of his reply, Mr Boundary serves up an excellent example of what
I meant by "There is no way out of the loop". I wrote that human brains "are
infested with sin", and can be trusted only in limited circumstances.
In reply, Mr Boundary wrote:
> I would beg to differ with you here. The properly-formed conscience
> can be trusted virtually ALL the time.
Which just moves the problem back one level: how do you tell if your
conscience is properly formed?
The only way to tell is to presuppose that you are capable of judging the
formed-ness of your own conscience. In other words, you can only be sure
that your conscience is `properly formed' if you assume that your evaluation
can be trusted. Assuming your conclusions saves you a lot of time, I'll
grant, but it's not a valid way of reasoning.
Unless you are infallible, your judgements about your own thinking cannot be
certain. Therefore, it is not possible to be certain your conscience is
`properly formed'. (Whatever that is supposed to mean.)
Mr Boundary then gives another paradigm example of the problem:
> Now you have hit on the purpose of the Church. It is by necessity the
> infallible interpreter of divine revelation. Without the Church,
> Christianity would be nothing more than a bunch of little divisive sects.
The Church is `by necessity' the infallible interpreter of divine revelation?
How do you know? Presumably, you believe this because of some argument or
another -- how do you know that the argument contains no mistakes?
You write:
> Therefore, although our minds are finite and susceptible to error, our
> competence in arriving at inductive insights gives confidence in our
> ability to distinguish what is true from what is not true, even in areas
> not subject to the experimental method.
But there is a huge difference between `confidence in our ability to
distinguish what is true from what is not true' and `infallible'. I am
confident about a lot of things, but absolute certainty is a very long way
from `confident'.
This discussion is about the arrogance of claiming to be absolutely certain
(really, go check the subject line). Saying you are absolutely certain is
significantly different than saying you are confident. When you say that
you are confident, that invites people to ask why.
Except in very limited circumstances, when you say that you are absolutely
certain, it invites people to dismiss you as someone who does not have any
idea of his own fallibility.
I have yet to meet anyone who believed in a knowably-infallible source of
truth who would admit the possibility of errors in his reasoning. All of
them -- every last one -- has claimed that he was himself infallible.
The result has been to convince me that they had no idea what was going on.
Darren F Provine / kilroy@gboro.rowan.edu
[This particular discussion may not be entirely relevant to the
original criticism. I get the feeling that the original poster
regarded as arrogant the very idea that there are right and wrong
answers in religion, and that the difference can have eternal
consequences. When I say that I think there is a hell and that he is
at least in significant danger of ending up there, I will admit that
-- as you say -- the reasoning processes I used to reach this are
fallible. Thus at least in principle I could be wrong. But these
basic facts are clearly enough taught in the Bible that I think it's
unlikely that I'm misinterpreting it. (In order to get this level of
confidence, I've tried to frame my statement sufficiently carefully as
to sidestep a number of the more controversial issues. I haven't, for
example said that all non-Christians will definitely end up in hell,
and I haven't attempted to describe hell in any detail.) I have a
feeling that my view is going to be regarded as arrogant and
intolerant even though I acknowledge that I'm fallible and so there's
some chance I'm wrong.
Don't get me wrong -- I think there are a lot of genuinely arrogant
Christians, and often criticism of us is justified. But in at least
some cases I think the criticisms constitute blaming the messenger.
If the universe is set up so that there are eternal consequences for
certain decisions, it's not my fault -- I'm just telling it the way I
think it is. You may think God is immoral for setting things up that
way. It's one of the critiques of Christianity that I find it most
difficult to respond to. But it's not arrogance for me to tell what
I think is the truth.
--clh]
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From: Leigh Palmer <palmer@sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: Orion drive in vacuum -- how?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7F6002BF6011C1D@rs14-annex3.sfu.ca>
X-Xxdate: Sat, 17 Apr 93 02:42:51 GMT
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In article <C5nGxq.663@zoo.toronto.edu> Henry Spencer,
henry@zoo.toronto.edu writes:
>The National Air & Space Museum has both the prototype and the film.
>When I was there, some years ago, they had the prototype on display and
>the film continuously repeating.
Great! I'll visit the National Air and Space Museum at the end of the
month with my wife, who was also working at General Atomic at the time.
Once again netnews has enriched my life.
Leigh
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From: jpolito@sysgem1.encore.com (Jonathan Polito)
Subject: Re: Aerostitch: 1- or 2-piece?
Organization: Encore Computer Corp.
Distribution: rec
In-Reply-To: na4@vax5.cit.cornell.edu's message of 14 Apr 93 14:40:15 EST
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In article <1993Apr14.144015.18175@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> na4@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
Request for opinions:
Which is better - a one-piece Aerostitch or a two-piece Aerostitch?
We're looking for more than "Well, the 2-pc is more versatile, but the
1-pc is better protection,..."
Thanks in advance,
Nadine
What is best? Books have been written on that! But in regard to
AeroStich it really depends on your particular size, shape and needs.
If you upper and lower body are not proportional (according to aero
dimensions) then it probably is going to be better mixing and matching
the 2 piece suit. I have the 2 piece suit and I am very happy with it.
Having my life quota of scars from crashing off road, I am very
concerned with good protection and I believe that the difference in
protection between the 1 and 2 piece suits is almost negligible. I
think the optional hip pads and back protector make much more of a
difference. One thing that is nice about the 2 piece is if you go
somewhere and then want to walk around for a while (still with jacket)
you can just detach and stow the pants.
One thing to note is that Goldfine has problems getting a good fit for
many women (with standard suits). Supposedly for smaller women (and
petite men for that matter) the 1 piece will fit better.
Another recommendation is to pay for mods if you need them. I wish I
got 2-3 inches added to my pant legs. I find the Long suits are not
really that long (I can't imagine how short the standard suits must
be).
--
Jonathan E. Polito Internet: jpolito@encore.com
Encore Computer Corp, 901 Kildaire Farm Rd, Cary, NC 27511 USA
919-481-3730/voice 919-481-3868/FAX
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From: brent@vpnet.chi.il.us (Brent Hansen)
Subject: Re: GUI Study
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
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In article <1993Apr2.203400.15357@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> c2xjfa@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (James F Allman III) writes:
>
>>
>> > I'm doing a study on what the following type of users would like to
>> > have on a Unix Manager. Basically I'm looking for the Unix commands
>> > and features on Motif window interface which will help the different
>> > type of users make use of Unix.
>> ...
>> Personally, I can't stand Motif. I also can't stand GUI Command Line!
>> interfaces for things like access to the commands I know Command Line!
>> and love. I think you'll find that experience [sic] users Command Line!
>>
>> der Mouse
>> ...
>A year and a half ago I felt the same way. The I started using
>gooyies. Give me the command line when something out of the ordinary
>needs done, and the gooy when I am doing normal or repative work.
>Note that most operations are repetative. Hackers love CLs because
> ...
What I like about GUI's:
- The ability to view and manipulate a group of objects, files,
text, directories, etc. and and manipulate them in some way
such as delete, copy, paste, rename ...
- The ability to have several applications / screens visible
and accessable at the same time.
- Being able to do a standard set of functions easily and
quickly on an unfamiliar operating system. I am familiar with
the command lines of several operating systems but occasionally
I will have to some work on a system that I almost never use.
If it has a GUI, I can usually accomplish what I want to do
fairly easily, the command line on the other hand often is
a long and painful experience.
What I hate about GUI's:
- Having to switch between the mouse and the keyboard. I guess
I have a strong one-handed preference. I like to use a
computer with one hand and use the other for holding something
like a piece of paper of a mug of tea. I have configured my
favorite editor so that most of the editing functions can be
done with one hand such as navigating, cutting, pasting,
searching, opening and saving files, etc. The main thing I
need to use both hands for is entering text.
I guess I need to get one of those mice with, like, 20 buttons
or something and then I will have the best of both worlds.
Brent
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From: dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra)
Subject: Re: Atlanta Hockey Hell!!
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In article <0foVj7i00WB4MIUmht@andrew.cmu.edu> Mamatha Devineni Ratnam <mr47+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Well, it's not that bad. But I am still pretty pissed of at the
>local ABC coverage. They cut off the first half hour of coverage by playing
[stuff deleted]
Ok, here's the solution to your problem. Move to Canada. Yesterday I was able
to watch FOUR games...the NJ-PITT at 1:00 on ABC, LA-CAL at 3:00 (CBC),
BUFF-BOS at 7:00 (TSN and FOX), and MON-QUE at 7:30 (CBC). I think that if
each series goes its max I could be watching hockey playoffs for 40-some odd
consecutive nights (I haven't counted so that's a pure guess).
I have two tv's in my house, and I set them up side-by-side to watch MON-QUE
and keep an eye on BOS-BUFF at the same time. I did the same for the two
afternoon games.
Btw, those ABC commentaters were great! I was quite impressed; they seemed
to know that their audience wasn't likely to be well-schooled in hockey lore
and they did an excellent job. They were quite impartial also, IMO.
dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (not suffering from a shortage of hockey here)
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From: jonathan@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr J J Trevor)
Subject: [SNES] Games for sale/trade
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.
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I have the following games for sale or trade for other SNES (or
Genesis/MegaDrive games):
(all have instructions and box except where stated)
SFC:
Mickeys Magical Quest (no instructions)
A.Suzukis Super GrandPrix
Legend of the Mystical Ninja
UK SNES:
Out of this World / Another World
Super Soccer
US SNES:
Krustys Fun House
Irem Skins Golf
Super Tennis (currently under offer)
I will sell for US$ for UK pounds.
Cheers
Jonathan
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|onathan Phone: +44 524 65201 x3793 Address:Department of Computing
'-'________ Fax: +44 524 381707 Lancaster University
E-mail: jonathan@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster, Lancs., U.K.
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From: tomm@hank.ca.boeing.com (Tom Mackey)
Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)...
Keywords: BRICK, TRUCK, DANGER
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In article <C5JoIt.E31@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> neil@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Neil Williams) writes:
>As long as we're on the subject... Several years ago myself and two others
>were riding in the front of a Toyota pickup heading south on Interstate 5
>north of Seattle, WA. Someone threw a rock of an overpass and hit our
>windshield. Not by accident I'm sure, it was impossible to get up to the
>overpass quickly to see who did it. We figured it was kids, reported it and
>left.
>A couple of years ago it happend again and killed a guy at my company. He was
>in his mid-fourties and left behind a wife and children. Turned out there was
>a reformatory for juviniles a few blocks away. They caught the 14 year old
>that did it. They put a cover over the overpass, what else could they do?
Execute the juvi on the grounds of the reformatory, required attendendence
by the rest of the inmates, as soon as possible after the incident and a
quick sure trial. I am quite serious. Cause and effect. Nothing else
will ever make a dent.
>I don't think I'll over forget this story.
>Neil Williams, Boeing Computer Services, Bellevue WA.
Me neither.
--
Tom Mackey (206) 865-6575 tomm@voodoo.ca.boeing.com
Boeing Computer Services ....uunet!bcstec!voodoo!tomm
M/S 7K-20, P.O. Box 24346, Seattle, WA 98124-0346
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From: dfeldman@lookout.mtt.it.uswc.uswest.com (David Feldman)
Subject: Trident 8900 *CL* 1280x1024 driver?
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Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
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Please excuse if FAQ but...
New Trident 8900CL based card claims to have 1280x1024 support.
Drivers with card indicate several 1280x1024 drivers on diskette.
Windows 3.1 does not make all drivers on diskette available to
configuration dialog box. Any suggestion?
Thanx; please e-mail.
dfeldman@uswest.com
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From: jdolske@andy.bgsu.edu (justin dolske)
Subject: Re: Wanted ISA mouse port with high interrupt
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
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lyourk@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Loran N. Yourk) writes:
>
> With a sound card on interrupt 5, two serial ports (one for modem on i4,
> one for Miracle Piano on i3) and a printer port on i7, I have run out of
> low interrupts. What I would like is a mouse port with an interrupt of
> 10, 11, or 12 (which ever interrupt the PS/2 mouse port uses) in in ISA
> i486 computer. I called technical support of Microsoft, Logitech, & ATI
> (checked what interrupts the mouse port on the ATI video cards can use)
> and they all said the only interrupts possible on these cards was ones
> lower than 7. Does anyone know of any board for an ISA bus which will
> allow a mouse port (or even a serial port) with high interrupts?
Try putting one of the IRQs for your COM ports onto IRQ2. The hardware will
automagically wrap IRQ2 to IRQ9 on AT class machines (eg, anything with high
IRQs). This is what I'm doing on my set up right now.
I've got COM2 on IRQ2 (really IRQ9 - address it this way in software), COM1
on IRQ3, SoundBlaster on IRQ5, LPT1 on IRQ7, and my ATI BusMouse port on one of
the interrupts in between. Works just great.
If you need even more, there's a text file floating around somewhere that
details how to hack up any serial card (and probably any others) to work on the
higher IRQs. It basically involves cutting the trace to the low IRQ and running a wire over the a high IRQ pin on the 16bit expansion bus.
It will be best to put the modem's COM port onto IRQ2/9. This will be the
first IRQ serviced by the system, giving the modem a better response --
especially handy under multitaskers like OS/2 -- which I'm running with no
problems.
Justin
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jdolske@andy.bgsu.edu
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From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Subject: Re: Stop The SeXularHumanistOppression { former my beloved Damn Ferigner's Be Taken Over}
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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In article <15APR199303031064@reg.triumf.ca> vincent@reg.triumf.ca (pete) writes:
>In article <C5HwA1.EBp@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
>(Brent Irvine) writes...
>`
>` "54-40" or fight was about a territorial dispute with
>` British Canada, again OLD STUFF.
>
>Uh, not quite. The 54/40' boundary dispute is still unresolved,
>and Canadian and US Coast Guard vessels regularly if infrequently
>detain each other's fish boats in the disputed waters off Dixon
>Entrance. The only reason you don't hear more about it is that
>it's in neither country's interest to aggravate the quarrel.
>That doesn't mean that either country is prepared to back down,
>especially the local political representatives whose constituents
>are all fishermen.
Fishing rights are disputed. Between 2 nations, no matter *how*
friendly, there is ALWAYS fishing disputes.
What I was getting at was the 54 40' or fight slogan is OLD STUFF
dealing with the LAND dispute. No one is saying 54 40' or fight
about fishing rights. The territorial dispute about the Oregon
Territory (we called it) is LONG resolved.
Fishing rights...small potatoes.
--
<><><><><><><><><><> Personal opinions? Why, <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
<> BRENT IRVINE <> yes. What did you think <> irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu <>
<><><><><><><><><><> they were?....... <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
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From: jbrown@batman.bmd.trw.com
Subject: Re: Death Penalty / Gulf War
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In article <930419.115707.6f2.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk>, mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
> jbrown@batman.bmd.trw.com writes:
>>In article <930414.121019.7E4.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk>, mathew
>><mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
>>> Yes. Fortunately we have right-thinking folks like your good self in power
>>> and it was therefore deemed acceptable to slaughter tens or even hundreds o
>>> thousands of Iraqis in order to liberate oil^H^H^HKuwait. We won the war,
>>> hurrah hurrah!
>>
>> The number of civilian Iraqi deaths were way over-exaggerated and
>> exploited for anti-war emotionalism by the liberal news media. The
>> facts are that less Iraqis died in the Gulf War than did civilians
>> in any other war of comparable size this century!
>
> Let's analyze this claim a little. How is the "size" of a war defined? By
> number of participants? Geographical area? Number of countries involved?
> Number of casualties?
Size of armies, duration, numbers of casualties both absolute and as a
percentage of those involved, geographical area and numbers of countries
too, are all measures of size. In this case I'd say the relevant
statistic would be the number of combatants (total troops) compared to
total casualties from among the total civilian population in the
affected geographical area.
>
> Which other "comparable" wars are we talking about?
Vietnam and Korea might make good comparisons.
>
> Which "liberal news media" are we talking about?
>
Western news in general, but in particular the American "mass media":
CBS, NBC, ABC, etc. The general tone of the news during the whole
war was one of "those poor, poor Iraqis" along with "look how precisely
this cruise missile blew this building to bits".
>> This was due mostly
>> to the short duration coupled with precise surgical bombing techniques
>> which were technically possible only recently.
>
> I suspect that medical advances may have something to do with it too.
I agree.
>
>> How about all the innocent people who died in blanket-bombing in WW2?
>> I don't hear you bemoaning them!
>
> Perhaps because the topic hasn't cropped up. If you want my opinion, I think
> that the blanket bombing of German cities at the end of World War Two was the
> most appalling act of wholesale slaughter this country has committed in
> centuries. Bomber Harris was no hero of mine.
Perhaps so. And maybe the atomic bomb was a mistake too. But that's easy
to say from our "enlightened" viewpoint here in the 90's, right? Back
then, it was *all-out* war, and Germany and Japan had to be squashed.
After all, a million or more British had already died, hundreds of
thousands of French, a couple hundread thousand or so Americans, and
millions of Russians, not to mention a few million Jews, Poles, and
other people of slavic descent in German concentration camps. All
things considered, the fire-bombings and the atomic bomb were
essential (and therefore justified) in bringing the war to a quick
end to avoid even greater allied losses.
I, for one, don't regret it.
>
>> War is never an exact science, but
>> with smart bombs, it's becoming more exact with a smaller percentage
>> of civilian casualties. Sometimes mistakes are made; targets are
>> misidentified; innocents die. That's war the way it really is.
>
> Entrenched political rulers operating in their own selfish interests without
> regard for the lives of other people, *that* is the way war really is.
Sure. And it's the people who suffer because of them. All the more
reason to depose these "entrenched political rulers operating in their
own selfish interests"! Or do you mean that this applies to the allies
as well??
>
> Why all the fuss about Kuwait and not East Timor, Bosnia, or even Tibet? If
> Iraq is so bad, why were we still selling them stuff a couple of weeks before
> we started bombing?
I make no claim or effort to justify the misguided foreign policy of the
West before the war. It is evident that the West, especially America,
misjudged Hussein drastically. But once Hussein invaded Kuwait and
threatened to militarily corner a significant portion of the world's
oil supply, he had to be stopped. Sure the war could have been
prevented by judicious and concerted effort on the part of the West
before Hussein invaded Kuwait, but it is still *Hussein* who is
responsible for his decision to invade. And once he did so, a
strong response from the West was required.
>
>> Mathew, your sarcasm is noted but you are completely off-base here.
>> You come off sounding like a complete peace-nik idiot, although I
>> feel sure that was not your intent.
>
> What's your intent? To sound like a Loving Christian? Well, you aren't
> doing a very good job of it.
Well, it's not very "loving" to allow a Hussein or a Hitler to gobble up
nearby countries and keep them. Or to allow them to continue with mass
slaughter of certain peoples under their dominion. So, I'd have to
say yes, stopping Hussein was the most "loving" thing to do for the
most people involved once he set his mind on military conquest.
>
>> So the Iraqi war was wrong, eh? I'm sure that appeasement would have
>> worked better than war, just like it did in WW2, eh?
>
> Who even mentioned appeasement? And what makes you think the situation is
> even remotely analogous to World War Two?
I mentioned it.
If we hadn't intervened, allowing Hussein to keep Kuwait, then it would
have been appeasement. It is precisely the lessons the world learned
in WW2 that motivated the Western alliance to war. Letting Hitler take
Austria and Czechoslavkia did not stop WW2 from happening, and letting
Hussein keep Kuwait would not have stopped an eventual Gulf War to
protect Saudi Arabia.
>
>> I guess we
>> shouldn't have fought WW2 either -- just think of all those innocent
>> German civilians killed in Dresden and Hamburg.
>
> Yes, do. Germans are human too, you know.
>
Sure. What was truly unfortunate was that they followed Hitler in
his grandiose quest for a "Thousand Year Reich". The consequences
stemmed from that.
>> Tyrants like Hussein *have* to be stopped. His kind don't understand
>> diplomacy; they only understand the point of a gun. My only regret is
>> that Bush wimped out and didn't have the military roll into Baghdad, so
>> now Hussein is still in power and the Iraqi people's sacrifice (not to
>> mention the 357 Americans who died) was for naught.
>
> I look forward to hearing your incisive comments about East Timor and Tibet.
>
What should I say about them? Anything in particular?
>> And as for poor, poor Rodney King! Did you ever stop and think *why*
>> the jury in the first trial brought back a verdict of "not guilty"?
>
> Yes. Amongst the things I thought were "Hmm, there's an awful lot of white
> people in that jury."
So? It was the *policemen* on trial not Rodney King!! And under American
law they deserved a jury of *their* peers! If there had been black
officers involved, I'm sure their would have been black jurors too.
This point (of allegedly racial motivations) is really shallow.
>
>> Those who have been foaming at the mouth for the blood of those
>> policemen certainly have looked no further than the video tape.
>> But the jury looked at *all* the evidence, evidence which you and I
>> have not seen.
>
> When I see a bunch of policemen beating someone who's lying defenceless on
> the ground, it's rather hard to imagine what this other evidence might have
> been.
So? It's "hard to imagine"? So when has Argument from Incredulity
gained acceptance from the revered author of "Constructing a Logical
Argument"? Can we expect another revision soon?? :) (Just kidding.)
>
> If there is some wonderful evidence, why is it seemingly being kept secret?
> Why not tell everyone what it is? Then everyone could say "Oh, yes, you're
> right, King deserved a good beating", and we could all live happily ever
> after.
I have to admit that I wonder this too. But *neither* the prosecution
nor the defense is talking. So one cannot conclude either way due to
the silence of the principals.
>
>> Law in this country is intended to protect the rights of the accused,
>> whether they be criminals or cops. One is not found guilty if there is
>> a reasonable doubt of one's guilt, and only the jury is in a position
>> to assess the evidence and render a verdict.
>
> Fine, but I'm still finding it hard to imagine what the "reasonable doubt"
> was in this case. I mean, the cops certainly seem to be beating someone
> who's lying defenceless on the ground. What's your explanation? Mass
> hallucination? Orbital mind-control lasers? Faked video footage? Do tell.
>
OK. It certainly seemed to me that there was excessive force involved.
And frankly, the original "not guilty" verdict baffled me too. But then
I learned that the prosecution in the first case did not try to convict
on a charge of excessive force or simple assault which they probably
would have won, they tried to get a conviction on a charge of aggravated
assault with intent to inflict serious bodily harm. A charge, which
news commentators said, was akin to attempted murder under California
law. Based on what the prosecution was asking for, it's evident that
the first jury decided that the officers were "not guilty". Note,
not "not guilty" of doing wrong, but "not guilty" of aggravated assault
with the *intent* of inflicting serious bodily harm. The seeds of the
prosecutions defeat were in their own overconfidence in obtaining a
verdict such that they went for the most extreme charge they could.
If the facts as the news commentators presented them are true, then
I feel the "not guilty" verdict was a reasonable one.
>
> mathew
> [ "Thou shalt not kill... unless thou hast a pretty good reason for killing,
> in which case thou shalt kill, and also kill anyone who gets in the way,
> as unfortunately it cannot be helped."
> -- Jim Brown Bible for Loving Christians ]
Thanks mathew, I like the quote. Pretty funny actually. (I'm a
Monty Python fan, you know. Kind of seems in that vein.)
Of course, oversimplifying any moral argument can make it seem
contradictory. But then, you know that already.
Regards,
Jim B.
Loving Christian :)
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From: maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard)
Subject: Re: Bay area media (Wings-Leafs coverage)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Lines: 25
In <DREIER.93Apr19195132@durban.berkeley.edu> dreier@durban.berkeley.edu (Roland Dreier) writes:
>The San Francisco Bay area media is reporting tonight that the Detroit
>Red Wings beat the Toronto Maple Leafs 6-3. Can someone who is not
>part of the media conspiracy against the Leafs tell me how the game
>really went (I am expecting a 4-0 win for the Leafs, shutout for
>Potvin, hat trick for Andreychuk and a goal and 3 assists for
>Gilmour). If the Leafs really lost, how many penalties did whichever
>biased ref was at the game have to call against the Leafs to let the
>Red Wings win?
Ah yes. California. Did the San Francisco Bay area media report that
Joe Montana is rumoured to be the leading candidate to replace fired
San Jose Sharks coach George Kingston? Apparently Montana is not only
coveted for his winning attitude, but as a playing coach he will be
expected to quarterback the powerplay.
Good thing those walls are so soft, eh Rollie?
--
cordially, as always, maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
"So many morons...
rm ...and so little time."
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From: monack@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (david n monack)
Subject: Re: ESPN Tonight
Organization: University of Arizona - Tucson, Arizona
Lines: 17
In <1qkj1kINN3g1@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> swartzjh@RoseVC.Rose-Hulman.Edu writes:
>Has anyone heard what game ESPN is showing tonight. They said they will
>show whatever game means the most playoff-wise. I would assume this would
>be the Blues-Tampa game or the Minnesota-Red Wings game... Anyone heard for
>sure???
> Jeff Swartz
I heard it will be the Minnesota-Detroit game. Don't know the time
though.
Dave
--
David Monack e-mail: monack@gas.uug.arizona.edu
"Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another." H.L. Mencken
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From: davidr@rincon.ema.rockwell.com (David J. Ray)
Subject: Re: Fractals? what good are they?
Organization: Rockwell International
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Lines: 16
In regards to fractal commpression, I have seen 2 fractal compressed "movies".
They were both fairly impressive. The first one was a 64 gray scale "movie" of
Casablanca, it was 1.3MB and had 11 minutes of 13 fps video. It was a little
grainy but not bad at all. The second one I saw was only 3 minutes but it
had 8 bit color with 10fps and measured in at 1.2MB.
I consider the fractal movies a practical thing to explore. But unlike many
other formats out there, you do end up losing resolution. I don't know what
kind of software/hardware was used for creating the "movies" I saw but the guy
that showed them to me said it took 5-15 minutes per frame to generate. But as
I said above playback was 10 or more frames per second. And how else could you
put 11 minutes on one floppy disk?
davidr@rincon.ema.rockwell.com
My opinions are my own except where they are shared by others in which case I
will probably change my mind.
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From: robert@cpuserver.acsc.com (Robert Grant)
Subject: Re: Animation with XPutImage()?
Organization: USCACSC, Los Angeles
Lines: 11
Distribution: world
Reply-To: robert@cpuserver.acsc.com (Robert Grant)
NNTP-Posting-Host: cpuserver.acsc.com
Hi everyone,
Does anyone know a good way to adjust colourmaps on the
fly (say during an animation) and prevent the current
set of colours from flickering?
Thanks,
Robert
robert@acsc.com
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From: jcav@ellis.uchicago.edu (JohnC)
Subject: your opinion of the LaserWriter Select 310?
Reply-To: jcav@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The Royal Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
Lines: 10
This model is one of the two low-cost laser printers that Apple just
introduced. I'm thinking of getting one to use at home. Have any of you
had any experience with this printer? Does it have Level-2 PostScript?
If you've bought one, are you happy with it?
--
John Cavallino | EMail: jcav@midway.uchicago.edu
University of Chicago Hospitals | John_Cavallino@uchfm.bsd.uchicago.edu
Office of Facilities Management | USMail: 5841 S. Maryland Ave, MC 0953
B0 f++ w c+ g++ k+ s++ e h- p | Chicago, IL 60637
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From: RYLV80@waccvm.corp.mot.com (William Mohrman)
Subject: Re: Drinking and Riding
Organization: Motorola
Nntp-Posting-Host: waccvm.corp.mot.com
Lines: 43
>
> What is a general rule of thumb for sobriety and cycling? Couple hours after
>you "feel" sober? What? Or should I just work with "If I drink tonight, I
>don't ride until tomorrow"?
This thread brings back memorys of an expensive day in traffic court
a few years ago. While I was waiting my turn to state my case and
plea of why I was going 75 in a 55 in my cage, I had the opportunity
to listen to some of the "creative excuses" offered the judge by others.
After listening to a number of "Well, I was passing a very slow truck
that suddenly speed up" versions, I decided that the judge had heard
just about every story in the book and then some. He was less than
impressed with any of them.
This young, rather burley looking guy, had his docket read by a
rather drill sargent looking Ohio State Highyway Patrol Trooper.
He was clocked riding a motorcycle at a speed of 110 mph in a 55 mph
zone. It was also noted that the defendant (motorcycle rider) had
alcohol on his breath, but was not cited for this offence.
The judge looked over his half glasses purched on the end of his nose
and said in his sternest voice: "Well son, those are some pretty
fast speeds to be riding a motorcycle. What do you have to say for
your self?"
"Well Sir", meekly the defenant replied, "I just was over to my
buddys and we had a couple of beers and I was on my way home."
He offered nothing more or less. Just had a couple of beers and
was doing 110 mph on his way home.
The judge moved by the simplicity of the response, fined him the
maximum in this case (plus court costs of course) and ordered him
to attend remedial drivers training school.
Isn't America Great??
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Mohrman 81-CB900C
Motorola , SPS
Columbus, OH
------------------- Disclaimers Apply ------------------------------
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From: mmatusev@radford.vak12ed.edu (Melissa N. Matusevich)
Subject: Foreskin Troubles
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Radford)
Lines: 3
What can be done, short of circumcision, for an adult male
whose foreskin will not retract?
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From: shenx@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (xiangxin shen )
Subject: Re: What is AT BUS CLK Speed?
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson
Lines: 22
In article <1993Apr14.160915.22866@debbie.cc.nctu.edu.tw> is81056@cc.nctu.edu.tw (Wei-Shi Hwu) writes:
>Robert Desonia (robert.desonia@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us) wrote:
>
>: S >There is one param in the bios setup that says AT BUS CLK. I have
>: S >it set to the default of 4, but was able to get it to work with 3.
>: S >The SI at 3 was 142.something. I didnt want to mess anything up
>: S >so I set it back to 4. Also, the PC didnt boot with it set at 2.
>: S >
>: S >What exactlt dows this do, and should I leave it at 4?
>
>I think it's impossible to let AT-Bus operated too much more than
>8MHz. I have a C & T Neat 286-20 mother board, And I set the AT-BUS
>clock to 10 MHz, but the HD stopped when it boot. So it's correct
>that CLK/n means how many wait states.
>
> Sm.
I think it all depends on your motherboard and the cards you have in your system. Your HD stopped boot probably because your HD controller can't handle the faster BUS speed. I have a 486-33DX, I set my bus divider to CLK/2.5, that is close to 13MHz. I can gain singificant performace increase on my Video card and harddisk transfer rate when I boost the bus speed. And my system work flawlessly under this setting. And you know what, when I go to CLK/2(17MHz BUS), my HD refuse to boot.
Just my 2 cent.
Jim
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From: jennise@opus.dgi.com (Milady Printcap the goddess of peripherals)
Subject: Looking for a little research help
Organization: Dynamic Graphics Inc.
Lines: 19
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: opus.dgi.com
Hi,
I'm writing a science fiction script and I'm looking for some
answers to questions regarding the Moon and Earth. My starting point
is an impossible situation. [I checked with a professor at berkeley
and his response was a VERY helpful "can't happen".] If you enjoy
playing with unusual ideas and are willing answer some questions
please contact me via e-mail (jennise@dgi.com).
I get extremely annoyed when screen and tele-plays ignore basic
facts about computers that I'm determined to be as scientifically
accurate as I can.
Sorry for being vague, but I'd like to protect my idea as much as I
can until I'm ready to sell it (hopefully).
Jennise
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From: robrick@erenj.com (Bob Brickman)
Subject: Re: When is Apple going to ship CD300i's?
Nntp-Posting-Host: big-geek.erenj.com
Organization: ER&E, Clinton, NJ. Opinions solely the author's, not the Company's.
Distribution: usa
Lines: 27
In article <1quod6$i3n@menudo.uh.edu>, sunnyt@coding.bchs.uh.edu wrote:
>
> In article <1993Apr19.164734.24779@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
> rjacks@austlcm.sps.mot.com (rodney jacks) writes:
> > I would really like to get one of the new CD300i CDROM
> > drives for my c650, but my local Apple doesn't know
> > when they will be available. He doesn't even have a part
> > number yet. Does anyone know what the part number
> > for this drive is and when it will be available?
> >
> > My Apple dealer suggested I buy one of the CD300 external
> > drives, but I don't want to pay extra for a case/power supply
> > I'm not going to use.
> >
> > -Rodney Jacks
> > (rjacks@austlcm.sps.mot.com)
>
While there may not be a part number for the CD300i drive, I have seen
a part number for the bezel kit (a new front panel with the slot in it
through which you insert the CD). The document (which I got from the
2/10/93 announcement at our Apple office) states the drive kit and bezel
kits are separate items and the bezel kit has an SRP of $149 fro the C650.
The external unit may be a better deal after all.
Bob Brickman <robrick@erenj.com>
-- disclaimer: the preceding represent my personal opinions and do not
reflect the opinions, policies, or practices of my employer
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Subject: Re: Sparky Anderson Gets win #2000, Tigers beat A's
From: tim@cs.cosc.georgetown.edu (Tim Snyder)
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University, Washington DC
Nntp-Posting-Host: cs.cosc.georgetown.edu
Lines: 33
In article <ragraca.734906386@vela.acs.oakland.edu> ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca) writes:
>Tigers' manager Sparky Anderson gets his 2,000th career win as moments ago,
>the Tigers completed a two game sweep over the Oakland A's at Tiger Stadium
>by beating the A's 3-2. Here are the highlights:
> R H E
> Oakland 2 9 0
> Detroit 3 7 1
>
> [game description deleted]
>
>In the post game interview (on WJR radio in Detroit), Sparky Anderson said
>its one of the few times he's gotten emotional in his managing career. It
>was a big moment for him, and I'm sure all of us Tiger fans are unanimously
>very happy for him. And what a way to get number 2,000!.
>
> [woofing deleted]
>--Randy
>
In another post-game interview, LaRussa claimed that Sparky was "the
best manager in basebal," explaining that to be part of the history
of Sparky softened the blow of losing.
Go Tigers!!!
Tim
Timothy Law Snyder
Department of Computer Science
Reiss 225
Georgetown University
Washington, DC 20057
tim@normal.georgetown.edu
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From: lewallen@cis.ohio-state.edu (stephen richard lewallen)
Subject: ### 68040 25Mz FOR SALE : ABSOLUTELY NEVER USED ###
Organization: The Ohio State University - Computer Science
Lines: 14
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: gecko.cis.ohio-state.edu
I have a new 25 MHz Motorola 68040 that I am willing to sell if I get
a good enough offer. It is still in its static free sealed package.
If I don't get a good enough offer, I will use it to replace my 68LC040.
Any takers?
Supposedly you can get one of these for $375. However, at the moment the
demand is higher than the supply so I think $400 is a good round number.
I will pay shipping, of course.
All offers should be send to lewallen@cis.ohio-state.edu
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From: aaronc@athena.mit.edu (Aaron Bryce Cardenas)
Subject: Re: The arrogance of Christians
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Lines: 45
news@cbnewsk.att.com writes:
>Arrogance is arrogance. It is not the result of religion, it is the result
>of people knowing or firmly believing in an idea and one's desire to show
>others of one's rightness. I assume that God decided to be judge for our
>sake as much as his own, if we allow him who is kind and merciful be the
>judge, we'll probably be better off than if others judged us or we judged
>ourselves. ^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^ ^^ ^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^
1 Cor 11:31-32 "But if we judged ourselves, we would not come under judgment.
When we are judged by the ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ Lord, we are being discipled so
that we will not be condemned with the world."
1 Cor 5:3 "Even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit.
And I have already passed judgment on the one who did this, just as if I were
present." ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^
1 Cor 2:15-16 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he
himself is not ^^^^^^^^^ subject to any man's ^^^ judgement: 'For
who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?' But we have the
mind of Christ."
Jude :14-15 "Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men: 'See,
the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones to judge
everyone, and to ^^^^ convict all the ungodly of ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^ all
the ungodly acts they have done in the ungodly way, and of all the harsh words
ungodly sinners have spoken against him.'"
Arrogance is a sin. Although a desire to show others of one's rightness may
be a sign of arrogance in some cases, it may be only a sign that they are
following the Bible in others:
Jude :22-23 "Be merciful to those who doubt; snatch others from the fire and
save them; to others show mercy, mixed with ^^^^^^ fear -- hating ^^^^ even
^^^^ the clothing stained by corrupted flesh."
>If I find someone arrogant, I typically don't have anything to do with them.
I hope you don't find me arrogant, then. This sounds like a bad practice --
ignoring what certain people say because you perceive them as arrogant.
James 1:19 "My dear brothers, take note of this: Everyone should be quick to
listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry,"
- Aaron
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From: edm@twisto.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: Victims of various 'Good Fight's
In-Reply-To: 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au's message of 12 Apr 93 21: 36:33 +0930
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp
<9454@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> <1993Apr12.213633.20143@levels.unisa.edu.au>
Lines: 12
>>>>> On 12 Apr 93 21:36:33 +0930, 9051467f@levels.unisa.edu.au (The Desert Brat) said:
TDB> 12. Disease introduced to Brazilian * oher S.Am. tribes: x million
To be fair, this was going to happen eventually. Given time, the Americans
would have reached Europe on their own and the same thing would have
happened. It was just a matter of who got together first.
--
Ed McCreary ,__o
edm@twisto.compaq.com _-\_<,
"If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao." (*)/'(*)
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From: Gary Keim <gk5g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: X Toolkits
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 10
NNTP-Posting-Host: po2.andrew.cmu.edu
In-Reply-To: <199304271930.AA07991@rebels.b23b.ingr.com>
Excerpts from misc: 27-Apr-93 Re: X Toolkits Sivesh Pradhaan@rebels.b (423)
> I do not have finger!!! So is there any other way of accessing this service
> like mail server or telnet or ftp?
You can use telnet:
% xhost +atk.itc.cmu.edu
% telnet atk.itc.cmu.edu 79
run-demo
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From: kbanaian@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu (King Banaian)
Subject: Re: Players Overpaid?
Lines: 40
Organization: Pitzer College
Ted Frank's list of underpaid players was this:
>
>p, Juan Guzman, 500
>p, Mussina, 400
>p, Castillo, 250
>p, Eldred, 175
>p, Rhodes, 155
>p, Militello, 118
>rp, Rojas, 300
>rp, Beck, 250
>rp, Melendez, 235
>rp, Hernandez, 185
>rp, Nied, 150
>c, Rodriguez, 275
>c, Piazza, 126
>1b, Thomas, 900
>1b, Bagwell, 655
>2b, Knoblauch, 500
>2b, Barberie, 190
>3b, Gomez, 312.5
>3b, Palmer, 250
>ss, Listach, 350
>ss, Pena, 170
>lf, Gonzalez, 525
>cf, Lankford, 290
>rf, R.Sanders, 275
>of, Plantier, 245
What do all of these players have in common? They do not qualify for
arbitration. They were never free agents.
It's called the reserve clause. Look it up.
And a year from now we will whine about how several of these guys are way
overpaid and getting outrageous raises in arb. Humbug.
--King "Sparky" Banaian |"No taxes: No new taxes,
kbanaian@pitzer.claremont.edu |no old taxes, we are taxed
Dept. of Economics, Pitzer College |enough." -- Rep. Alan Keyes
Latest 1993 GDP forecast: 2.4% | (please run, Alan!)
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From: 02106@ravel.udel.edu (Samuel Ross)
Subject: Books for sale cheap!!!
Nntp-Posting-Host: ravel.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Lines: 28
SOMEONE PLEASE BUY THESE BOOKS!!!!! I AM NOT ASKING MUCH!!!!!!
JUST MAKE ME AN OFFER AND I WILL PROBABLY TAKE IT!!!!!
* Calculus w/ Analytic Geometry by Authur B. Simon (copyright date 1982), below avg condition but still readable!
* Writing good software in Fortran, Graham Smith.
* The Holt Handbook by Kirszner & Mandell (copyright 1986) 720+ page writing guide.
* Algebra & Trigonometry, A problem Solving Approach, 3rd edition by W. Flemming and D. Varberg. Very good condition.
* General Chemistry Principles & Modern Applications, R. Petrucci, fourth
edition. Big Book! Very good condition!
* Solutions manual for Chemistry book. Paperback.
* Study guide for Chemistry book. Paperback.
Send me your offers via email at 02106@chopin.udel.edu
Sam
02106@chopin.udel.edu
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From: rcj2@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (ray.c.jender)
Subject: Looking for a doctor
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Keywords: San Francisco
Lines: 9
I was kind of half watching Street Stories last night
and one of the segments was about this doctor in
S.F. who provides a service of investigating treatment
for various diseases. I'm pretty sure his name is
Dr. Mark Renniger (sp?) or close to that.
Did anyone else watch this? I'd like to get his
correct name and address/phone number if possible.
Thanks.
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From: dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard)
Subject: Re: Riddle me this...
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Lines: 24
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: clesun.central.sun.com
In article 1r1lp1INN752@mojo.eng.umd.edu, chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV) writes:
>In article <1993Apr20.050550.4660@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> j979@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (FULLER M) writes:
>>Does a "not harmful" gassing mean that you can, with a little willpower,
>>stay inside indefinitely without suffering any serious health problems?
>>
>>If so, why was CS often employed against tunnels in Vietnam?
>>
>>What IS the difference, anyway?
>
>CS "tear-gas" was used in Vietnam because it makes you wretch so hard that
>your stomach comes out thru your throat. Well, not quite that bad, but
>you can't really do much to defend yourself while you are blowing cookies.
>
>Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
>chuck@eng.umd.edu
>
Interesting... after several hours worth of exposure, do you still posess
the presence of mind to be able to determine how to escape from an inferno
surrounding you? In other words, is it possible that the prolonged gassing
disoriented the wackos enough that possibility of escape was rendered
questionable?
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From: joshua@cpac.washington.edu (Joshua Geller)
Subject: Re: Merlin, Mithras and Magick
Organization: Institute for the Study of Ancient Science
Lines: 14
Distribution: world
<C5HwKA.7AF@unix.portal.com>
<Pegasus-150493132018@fp1-dialin-4.uoregon.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: bailey.cpac.washington.edu
In-reply-to: Pegasus@aaa.uoregon.edu's message of 15 Apr 1993 20:26:04 GMT
In article <Pegasus-150493132018@fp1-dialin-4.uoregon.edu>
Pegasus@aaa.uoregon.edu (LaurieEWBrandt) writes:
> Lets add to those percentages 13-15% for the Orphaic docterians brought to
> the group by Paul/Saul who was a high ranking initiate. On the development
> of Orphaic Mysteries, see Jane Harrisons .Prolegomena to the study of Greek
> religion. Cambridge U Press 1922. and you can easly draw your own
> conclusions.
perhaps you can quote just a bit of her argument?
josh
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From: kohlhepp@cae.wisc.edu (Robert Kohlhepp)
Subject: RasterOps 8XL
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: usa
Lines: 14
I have a video board for sale for Macintosh NU-Bus machines. My other deal fell through. I am asking $200.
RasterOps 8XL
640x480
800x600 <--- This was incorrectly posted as 832x624 before.
640x870
1024x768 (60hz & 75 hz)
1152x870
Make offers by mail.
--
RJ Kohlhepp Novell Systems Staff
kohlhepp@cae.wisc.edu Computer Aided Engineering
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From: steph@cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Subject: Re: Defensive Averages 1988-1992, Third Base
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Lines: 122
In <C5JJrJ.EM3@cs.uiuc.edu> steph@cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson) writes:
>Compiled from the last five Defensive Average reports, here are the career
>DAs for the individual players in the reports. Stats are courtesy of
>Sherri Nichols. Players are listed in descending order.
And some comments, with some players deleted.
>Third Basemen
>-------------
>Name 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 88-92
>Mitchell, Kevin .690 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.690
Yep, that Kevin Mitchell. I never would have expected him in the
#1 spot.
>Gonzales, Rene .685 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.685
It's no accident that the first two names are 1988 only. As with first
and second base, 1988 was the year of the glove. Average DA was 20 points
higher in both leagues than any other year.
>Leius, Scott ---- ---- ---- .653 .680 0.672
Looks good. Too bad he's moving to short.
>Pendleton, Terry .692 .685 .631 .689 .634 0.667
Highest five-year regular, though he's only had one year as good as Kevin
Mitchell :->.
>Ventura, Robin ---- ---- .641 .647 .677 0.657
>Wallach, Tim .728 .674 .600 .630 .665 0.657
>Gruber, Kelly .717 .657 .580 .630 .664 0.650
The other elite fielders in the league.
>Pagliarulo, Mike .631 ---- .575 .744 ---- 0.649
This is an interesting line. His 1988 figure was slightly below average.
His 1990 was pathetic, and his 1991 was the next best year by anybody. Part of
that may be his mobility. 1988 was with the Yankees. 1990 was with the
Padres, who appear to have a rotten infield. 1991 was with the Twins, and
judging by Leius and Gaetti, the Metrodome may be a good place to play
third.
>Williams, Matt ---- ---- .633 .653 .656 0.647
Add another to the elite fielders list.
>Caminiti, Ken ---- .675 .630 .653 .596 0.642
>Sabo, Chris .751 .626 .616 .613 .575 0.642
Too fielders whose career average may overstate their value. I don't know
what happened to Caminiti -- judging by the three previous years, his low
1992 may be a fluke. Sabo is merely average, however. His incredible 1988
(best year ever) brings his average up a lot.
>Buechele, Steve .647 .616 .647 .681 .599 0.635
Strange last two years.
>Schmidt, Mike .628 ---- ---- ---- ---- 0.628
According to reputation, one of the best fielders ever at third base.
But at the end, he was below average. (Average in 1988 was .643).
>Boggs, Wade .643 .659 .550 .653 .634 0.626
Boggs has been pretty good. I don't know what happened in 1990, but every
other year he has been above average, usually by quite a bit.
>Martinez, Egdar ---- ---- .621 .645 .599 0.624
Last year -- a fluke or a portent?
>*NL Average* .643 .625 .602 .623 .603 0.619
>Seitzer, Kevin .654 .583 .593 ---- .635 0.616
>*AL Average* .641 .612 .604 .620 .602 0.615
Why is it that the two leagues usually have defensive averages very close
to one another, but very different from year to year? Any ideas?
>Jacoby, Brook .624 .621 .600 ---- .597 0.613
Brook is declining.
>Hansen, Dave ---- ---- ---- ---- .611 0.611
>Magadan, Dave ---- ---- ---- ---- .609 0.609
>Jefferies, Greg ---- ---- ---- ---- .606 0.606
Three first-time regulars, above average in 1992. I'm not sure why Jefferies
gets all the grief about his fielding. He's never had a good year, but while
at second he improved to become an average fielder, and is an average fielder
at third.
>Zeile, Todd ---- ---- ---- .614 .593 0.605
Zeile, on the other hand, is a below average fielder. Each year he's about
10 points below average. And it's probably not just the park, since Terry
Pendleton had excellent DAs in the three years before this.
>Baerga, Carlos ---- ---- ---- .604 ---- 0.604
Moving back to second was a good idea.
>Hayes, Chris ---- .601 .622 .606 .574 0.602
So why is Hayes supposed to be good defensively? He's had a grand total
of one year above the league DA, and was pretty bad last year.
>Johnson, Howard .628 .549 .611 .573 ---- 0.588
>Lansford, Carney .620 .578 .594 ---- .550 0.587
Howard Johnson and Carney Lansford -- separated at birth. To his credit,
HoJo did have one above average year (1990). Lansford couldn't even break
the .600 mark without the help of the year of the glove.
>Hollins, Dave ---- ---- ---- ---- .577 0.577
Good hitter, but his fielding needs work.
>Sheffield, Gary ---- ---- .584 ---- .567 0.575
Not a good fielder.
>Blauser, Jeff ---- .573 ---- ---- ---- 0.573
>Fryman, Travis ---- ---- ---- .571 ---- 0.571
Both are better off at shortstop.
>Gomez, Lee ---- ---- ---- .551 .542 0.546
Two consecutive horrible years for Leo. Camden Yards doesn't seem to
have helped his fielding any.
>Palmer, Dean ---- ---- ---- ---- .520 0.520
Texas slugger debuts with not only the lowest career DA, but the lowest
DA at third ever. Congratulations, Dean.
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Grad Student At Large
"It is considered good to look wise, especially when not
overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
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From: thewho@athena.mit.edu (Derek A Fong)
Subject: Re: When is Apple going to ship CD300i's?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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Interestingly enough, the CDROM 300i that came with my Quadra 800 has
only 8 disks:
1. System Install
2. Kodak Photo CD sampler
3. Alice to Ocean
4. CDROM Titles
5. Application Demos
6. Mozart: Dissonant Quartet
7. Nautilus
8. Apple Chronicles
Has anyone else noticed that they got less than everyone seems to be
getting with the external? What I really feel I missed out on is what
is supposed to a fantastic Games demo disk.
I have heard that people have gotten up to 9-10 disks with their drive.
I assume they get the 8 titles above plus Cinderella and the Games Demo CDROM.
any comments and experiences? Should I call Apple to complain? =)
Derek
thewho@plume.mit.edu
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From: kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Keith Keller)
Subject: Detroit-Toronto?
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, School of Arts and Sciences
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What's the deal? c.s.h. has nothing on it yet. Is it in OT, is it over,
what? I want to know! We all want to know! Where's Roger when you need
him?!?!?!?! :-)
--
Keith Keller LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!!
LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!!
kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!!
"A cow is not a vegetarian dish." -- Keith Keller, 1993
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From: rremaley@bcm.tmc.edu
Subject: Re: $6700 for hail damage - a record?
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.249.27.175
I was in the great storm.....my Mazda MPV was damaged so bad they are
going to replace the top, doors and hood. It is Black so they will repaint
the entire vehicle...estimated cost around $7000 and repair time approx. 3
to 4 weeks.
rremaley@bcm.tmc.edu
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From: mac18@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Cornell)
Subject: Hey FLYERS Fans!
Article-I.D.: usenet.1pqvti$74p
Reply-To: mac18@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael A. Cornell)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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Did you ever notice how many people on the net have trouble in the
comparitively easy task of spelling the nick name of our fair city? I
never knew that Philadelphia becomes Phillie or Philli when spoken of. So
for all you who don't know yet here's a _little_ clue.
IT IS SPELLED: P H I L L Y
OK...thank you.
Oh yeah, about that drug-induced trade rumor....I don't think the Sniders
are that stupid...the rumor you should be looking into is Mike Keenan
coming back to coach the FLYERS.
later
Mike
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Mike Cornell | "There are a great many people in the country today who,
mac18@po.cwru.edu| through no fault of their own, are sane." -Monty Python
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From: wijkstra@fwi.uva.nl (Marcel Wijkstra (AIO))
Subject: Re: BW hardcopy of colored window?
Keywords: color hardcopy print
Nntp-Posting-Host: ic.fwi.uva.nl
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
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mars@ixos.de (Martin Stein) writes:
#I use xwd/xpr (from the X11R5 dist.) and various programs of the
#ppm-tools to print hardcopies of colored X windows. My problem is,
I don't like xpr. It gives (at least, the X11R4 version does) louzy
output: the hardcopy looks very grainy to me.
Instead, I use pnmtops. This takes full advantage PostScript, and
lets the printer do the dirty job of dithering a (graylevel)
image to black and white dots.
So: if you have a PostScript printer, try:
xwdtopnm <xwdfile> | # convert to PPM
[ppmtopgm |] # .. to graylevel for smaller file to print
pnmtops -noturn | # .. to PostScript
lpr # print
pnmtops Has several neat options, but use them with care:
If you want your image to be 4" wide, use:
pnmtops -noturn -scale 100 -width 4
-noturn Prevents the image from being rotated (if it is wider than it
is high)
-width 4 Specifies the PAPER width (not the image width - see below)
-scale 100 Is used because if the image is small, it may fit within a
width less than 4", and will thus be printed smaller than 4" wide.
If you first scale it up a lot, it will certainly not fit in 4", and
will be scaled down by pnmtops automatically to fit the specified
paper width.
In short: pnmtops will scale an image down to fit the paper size,
but it will not blow it up automatically.
Hope this helps.
Marcel.
--
X Marcel Wijkstra AIO (wijkstra@fwi.uva.nl)
|X| Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
X University of Amsterdam The Netherlands
======Life stinks. Fortunately, I've got a cold.========
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From: DAK988S@vma.smsu.edu
Subject: Re: Torre: The worst manager?
Organization: SouthWest Mo State Univ
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X-Newsreader: NNR/VM S_1.3.2
In article <93095@hydra.gatech.EDU>
gt7469a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian R. Landmann) writes:
>
>Joe Torre has to be the worst manager in baseball.
>brian, a very distressed cardinal fan.
>--
No....Hal McRae is the worst manager in baseball. I've never seen a guy who
can waste talent like he can. One of the best raw-talent staffs in the league,
and he's still finding a way to lose. I'll be surprised if he makes it through
the next 2 weeks, unless drastic improvement is made.
An even more frustrated Royals fan,
Darin J. Keener dak988s@vma.smsu.edu
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From: jodfishe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (joseph dale fisher)
Subject: Re: The arrogance of Christians
Organization: Indiana University
Lines: 13
I've just read Carol's response and I just had to get into this. I've
got some verses which are not subject to interpretation because they say
what they say. They are 2 Peter 1:20-21, 2 Timothy 3:16-17, and
Galatians 1:11-12.
Also, based on the fact that Jesus is the Word incarnate and he judges
people if they follow him (see Acts 17:29-31 and John 5:21-27) and that
those who reject Jesus' teachings are judged by the very words he spoke
(see John 12:47-50), then Jesus' words are true and do not need
interpretation, nor would it be just of God to judge based on his word
if it had to be interpreted.
Joe Fisher
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From: dye@lachman.com (Ken R. Dye )
Subject: Re: Feedback requested on lowering '66 Mustang
Nntp-Posting-Host: london.i88.isc.com
Organization: Lachman Technology, Inc., Naperville, IL
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In article <X3XZ2B2w165w@vllyoak.resun.com> jp@vllyoak.resun.com (Jeff Perry) writes:
>I have found a kit advertised for lowering the front end of an early
>mustang. Installation envolves moving the upper A-arm and installation
>of a wedge shaped spacer between the A-arm and ball joint. Apparently,
>Shelby Mustangs did a similair modification, but left out the spacer.
>
>I would be interested in feedback, pro or con, on such a modification.
I'm no mustang head, but don't the early ones have a simple
strut suspension (that is, with no upper A-arm)? Just a strut
going down to a lower control arm (single bushing: not an A-arm), with a
tension/compression rod locating it in the forward/backward direction?
Anyway, simple strut suspensions like this can be lowered just by using
shorter springs, cutting the springs, lowering the spring perch or shortening
the strut below the perch. In each of these cases, the suspension geometry
will suffer because the lower control arms will not be at the
intended angle. A spacer placed between control arm and the bottom
of the strut (roughly the height of the reduction) will restore
the suspension geometry. IMHO, the kit that includes the spacer
is the only way to go...
--Ken
--
Ken R. Dye an optimist is a guy |
Lachman Technology, Inc., Chicago that has never had |
(708) 505-9555 x341 much experience |
dye@lachman.com archy |
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From: uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
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In article <1qpg8fINN982@dns1.NMSU.Edu> amolitor@nmsu.edu (Andrew Molitor) writes:
>In article <tcmayC5M2xv.JEx@netcom.com>
> tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) writes:
>>
>>But is it any worse than the current unsecure system? It becomes much
>>worse, of course, if the government then uses this "Clinton Clipper"
>>to argue for restrictions on unapproved encryption. (This is the main
>>concern of most of us, I think. The camel's nose in the tent, etc.)
>>
>
> Not to pick on Mr. May in particular, of course, but isn't this
>kind of the domino theory? When one little country falls, its neighbor
>will surely follow, and before you know it, we're all mining salt
>in Siberia for not turning in our Captain Crunch Secret Decoder Rings.
I wish I could agree with you. Ask yourself this. Why would any private
sector entity wish to buy a crypto system that was KNOWN to be at least
partially compromised? (Key escrows in this instance) Why would any
private sector entity wish to buy a crypto system that had not been properly
evaluated? (i.e. algorythm not publically released)
The answer seems obvious to me, they wouldn't. There is other hardware out
there not compromised. DES as an example (triple DES as a better one.)
My suspicion is that the prices will drop dramatically on these non clipper
systems. If not we're in trouble.
Given that the Clinton administration is not entirely stupid (although we'd like
to think so) I cannot believe that they have failed to realize this.
They know their initiative will fail, much as crippled DES was never taken
seriously. The only way their moves can work is by coercion. You know
little about politics if you don't realize that this is just a first step
in the next move, it makes NO sense otherwise. The next move, banning
or SEVERLY crippling crypto not using the "Clipper" system is easily
justified "Why would anyone want other encryption unless they were trying
to subvert the government? We've provided you with a very secure alternative
so use it or go to jail/be fined/whatever."
How can you reconcile the administrations self proclaimed purpose of providing
law enforcement with access to encrypted data without making the clipper system
the only crypto available in the U.S... ? You simply can't, and the administration
knows it. Anyone who wanted to keep the govt. out of their hair, be it for
drug dealing or whatever, would just buy still available non-clipper systems.
Don't sell our crafty Clinton types short, they can't be THAT stupid.
Either banning non clipper crypto is the next answer or the administrations
collective I.Q. is about that of a potato.
Why do you think AT&T jumped on so fast? They know it's going to be big,
and NOT because it's better. Right on the face of it, noone will buy the
stuff that doesn't have to. AT&T must know this too, THINK MAN, why the
hell would they jump the gun?
> My interpretation.
>
> Andrew
>
>>-Tim May, whose sig block may get him busted in the New Regime
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Isn't this just a little melodramatic?
I really wonder.
To wit: The letter I just sent to Clinton:
The White House
Office of the Press Secretary c/o:
Presidential Comment Line (fax)
(202) 456-2461
April 17, 1993
Sir and/or Madam:
I must object most strongly to the administrations evolving position on encryption and
cryptography. I am shocked at the Clinton regimes increasing lean towards a authoritarian approach with regard to privacy and freedom from government oversight in day to day life.
It is apparent to me that those who drafted the "Clipper Chip Proposal" (which is, incidentally, gaining notoriety as the "Big Brother Proposal") are either incredibly ignorant or very sly indeed. Anyone knowledgeable in the nuances of cryptographic development and research must understand that a key step in the development of a new algorithm, especially one destined for standardization, is the full disclosure of the algorithm to the private and academic sectors. The proper evaluation of an algorithm dep
ends on careful scrutiny by these sectors, and only such scrutiny can provide true public confidence in the security of the algorithm. The assumption that a new algorithm will be accepted based on assurances from "experts" without full disclosure is plain ignorance.
In addition, the assumption that an algorithm will be marketable over other technology, such as DES, when it is characterized by key escrow is lunacy. It seems an easy step in the logic chain that probable consumers will prefer to purchase equipment not crippled by government key escrow, no matter how "tamper proof" the key escrows might be.
I cannot believe that even the least educated policy maker would have failed to realize these flaws. I can only assume then that the drafters of the "Clipper Chip Proposal" knew very well the difficulties of selling a crippled system to the private sector. The only way this proposal makes any sense, or has any chance of succeeding is in coercion. Even the language of the proposal makes it painfully clear that the next logical step is the outlawing of other encryption devices and hardware that do not uti
lize the "Big Brother Chip."
Unfortunately the public at large is not educated enough on the issue to realize what they are losing. I expect the Big Brother proposal to encounter little resistance from the American people who you will have so efficiently duped once again with pretty words like "harmony," "right to encryption," and "voluntary."
It mortifies me that the phrase that seems to be used more and more often to characterize the Clinton administration is "I can't believe it's happening here." More startling is a question a colleague of mine posed and the realization that everyday it becomes more and more relevant; "When is the Reichstag fire planned for?"
Most Concerned,
[Signature]
Shaen Logan Bernhardt I
uni@acs.bu.edu
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uni@acs.bu.edu -> Public Keys by finger and/or request
Public Key Archives at <pgp-public-keys@junkbox.cc.iastate.edu>
DF610670F2467B99 97DE2B5C3749148C Sovereignty is the sign of a brutal past.
Cryptography is not a crime. Fight the Big Brother Proposal!
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From: dlc@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (David Claytor)
Subject: Re: Noisy SE: What can I do?
Organization: UMCC, Ann Arbor, MI
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In article <1qk2rjINN503@cae.cad.gatech.edu> vincent@cad.gatech.edu (Vincent Fox) writes:
>There's this old SE here. It's got the older-style fans that remind
>me of a house-ventilator. A cylindrical drum instead of the bladed rotor
>I usually see. Anyway, the SE makes this loud buzzing noise due
>to vibration somewheres. If I remove the screws and loosen the front
>from the back, it quiets down. I can only assume that the fan housing
>from this goofy thing is touching the back of the case and vibrating
>against it.
>
>Anyway, any suggestions for where to get replacement fans and how to
>"stealth" this guy? Your experiences welcome.....
>
>--
>"If everything had gone as planned, everything would have been perfect."
> -BATF spokesperson on CNN 3/2/93, regarding failed raid attempt in TX.
When I owned an SE, I replaced the fan with SE Silencer, available, I
believe, from MacWarehouse or MacConnection. It comes with instruction for
installation and requires no soldering. Worked like a charm. I think the
manufacturer is Mobius.
__Dave
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dlc@umcc.ais.org 313.485.3394
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From: kristyn@netcom.com (Kristyn Geenwood)
Subject: Re: Boom! Dog attack!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 32
In article <9426.97.uupcb@compdyn.questor.org> ryan_cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau) writes:
>My previous posting on dog attacks must have generated some bad karma or
>something. I've weathered attempted dog attacks before using the
>approved method: Slow down to screw up dog's triangulation of target,
>then take off and laugh at the dog, now far behind you. This time, it
>didn't work because I didn't have time. Riding up the hill leading to my
>house, I encountered a liver-and-white Springer Spaniel (no relation to
>the Springer Softail, or the Springer Spagthorpe, a close relation to
>the Spagthorpe Viking). Actually, the dog encountered me with intent to
>harm.
>
Stuff deleted
>
>Ryan Cousinetc.|1982 Yamaha Vision XZ550 -Black Pig of Inverness|Live to Ride
>KotRB |1958 AJS 500 C/S -King Rat |to Work to
>DoD# 0863 |I'd be a squid if I could afford the bike... |Flame to
>ryan.cousineau@compdyn.questor.org | Vancouver, BC, Canada |Live . . .
>
>
I sure hope you got the cost of a replacement panel out of the owner. Here if
the owner should seem reluctant, a stop by the local SPCA (preferably with your
foot/leg all swollen up) to file a viscious dog report would do the trick.
-g.
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Glenn Schmall - astroid@armory.com | Do not cross the oncoming lanes of
R65 from hell - beaming to cafe near | death that are californias highways.
you! Yeah I got a DOD#, so what? | -SJ Mercury News
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From: kris@circ.upenn.edu (Kris Gupta)
Subject: Re: NDW Norton Desktop for Windows
Reply-To: kris@circ.upenn.edu
Organization: Cardiothoracic Imaging Research Center
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Nntp-Posting-Host: katsuru.circ.upenn.edu
In article 2773@leland.Stanford.EDU, shiva@leland.Stanford.EDU (Matt Jacobson) writes:
...
> I have taken it out of win.ini, but it still pops up running with windows.
> I did a big search and found reference to it in ndw.ini, system.ini and
> progman.ini. Removing it here causes a failure when starting up windows
> (progrman.ini has a "group 7 = ...ndw.exe..." which can't be deleted.)
>
> Is there anyone familiar with NDW who can tell me how to turn it off??
>
One of the items in the group folder (typically called Norton Desktop Applications)
is labelled "Norton Desktop Uninstall". Need I say more!
---
Kris B. Gupta - Cardiothoracic Imaging Research Center
Dept Radiology - Hospital of U of Pennsylvania
Internet: kris@gynko.circ.upenn.edu
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From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Subject: Re: HELP!!! GRASP
Organization: TAP
Lines: 19
Quoted from <1993Apr20.125147.10665@genes.icgeb.trieste.it> by oberto@genes.icgeb.trieste.it (Jacques Oberto):
> file, check in the 'graphics' directories under *grasp. The problem
> is that the .clp files you generate cannot be decoded by any of
> the many pd format converters I have used. Any hint welcome!
The gl2p1.lzh stuff under gfx/show on the Aminet sites includes a
utility called pic2hl, that is a filter for HamLab that can handle
the most commonly used kinds of .PIC and .CLP files.
The biggest problem is that the .CLP files don't usually contain a
palette, so you need to convert a .PIC with the right palette
first (which creates a "ram:picpal" file), and then convert the
.CLP files.
> Jacques Oberto <oberto@genes.icgeb.trieste.it>
--
*** John Bickers, TAP. jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
*** "Radioactivity - It's in the air, for you and me" - Kraftwerk ***
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From: aa429@freenet.carleton.ca (Terry Ford)
Subject: A flawed propulsion system: Space Shuttle
X-Added: Forwarded by Space Digest
Organization: [via International Space University]
Original-Sender: isu@VACATION.VENARI.CS.CMU.EDU
Distribution: sci
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For an essay, I am writing about the space shuttle and a need for a better
propulsion system. Through research, I have found that it is rather clumsy
(i.e. all the checks/tests before launch), the safety hazards ("sitting
on a hydrogen bomb"), etc.. If you have any beefs about the current
space shuttle program Re: propulsion, please send me your ideas.
Thanks a lot.
--
Terry Ford [aa429@freenet.carleton.ca]
Nepean, Ontario, Canada.
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From: Mark W. Dubin
Subject: Re: Barbecued foods and health risk
Originator: dubin@spot.Colorado.EDU
Nntp-Posting-Host: spot.colorado.edu
Reply-To: dubin@spot.colorado.edu
Organization: Univ. of Colorado-Boulder
Lines: 16
rsilver@world.std.com (Richard Silver) writes:
>Some recent postings remind me that I had read about risks
>associated with the barbecuing of foods, namely that carcinogens
>are generated. Is this a valid concern? If so, is it a function
>of the smoke or the elevated temperatures? Is it a function of
>the cooking elements, wood or charcoal vs. lava rocks? I wish
>to know more. Thanks.
I recall that the issue is that fat on the meat liquifies and then
drips down onto the hot elements--whatever they are--that the extreme
heat then catalyzes something in the fat into one or more
carcinogens which then are carried back up onto the meat in the smoke.
--the ol' professor
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From: eric@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (Eric J. Hansen)
Subject: Preamp and CD player forsale in MA
Article-I.D.: cheever.eric-060493114735
Organization: Center for Clinical Computing - Boston, MA.
Lines: 28
Forsale:
Proton P1100 preamplifier
========================= About 3.5 years old, originally $299, asking $150
or best offer. Has inputs for tape 1, tape 2, CD, phono, video and tuner.
Separate listen and record selectors. Bass EQ, subharmonic filter and mono
switch. High quality volume potentiometer. In excellent condition, with
original boxes and manual.
Sony D-88 portable Diskman
========================== This is the one designed to play the mini CD's.
You can play normal size CDs, but the disk sticks out the side. Works
well,
but may skip occasionally - it should be tuned up (heads aligned, cleaned,
etc.) In excellent condition. It has not been used all that much. With
carrying case. Original list was (I think) $300, but I'll take $80 or best
offer. It would be good for an office or just to sit on your desk.
Please email me <eric@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu> or telephone at
(617) 278-0068.
Eric
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| Center for Clinical Computing .......... Boston, MA (617) 732-5925 |
| .... DOS/Mac programming, Ultrix administration, general chaos .... |
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From: aaron@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Scott Aaron)
Subject: Re: iterations of the bible
Reply-To: aaron@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Lines: 24
OFM replies to a question on the multiplicity of translations of the bible,
>As far as I know, no Christians
>believe that the process of copying manuscripts or the process of
>translating is free of error.
Unfortunately, this isn't true. On another news group earlier this year,
someone posted that the King James Bible was the divinely inspired version
of the Bible in English and was, therefore, inerrant; all other English
translations were from Satan, trying to deceive the body of Christ. A
few years ago, the pastor of a church I was attending showed me a poster
advertising the availability of a certain man to address congregations.
Very prominantly on the poster was the fact that the man used only the KJV.
The idea that the KJV is THE English Bible is more prevalent than many
might think.
-- Scott at Brandeis
"But God demonstrates His "The Lord bless you, and keep you;
own love for us, in that the Lord make His face shine on you,
while we were yet sinners, and be gracious to you;
Christ died for us." the Lord lift up His countenance on you,
and give you peace."
-- Romans 5:8 [NASB] -- Numbers 6:24-26 [NASB]
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From: shantanu@risc.sps.mot.com (Shantanu Ganguly)
Subject: Re: Are BMW's worth the price?
Organization: Motorola, Inc. -- Austin,TX
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In article <9866@ceylon.gte.com> hhd0@harvey.gte.com (Horace Dediu) writes:
>In article <1pvjlnINNckf@daffy.sps.mot.com>, shantanu@risc.sps.mot.com (Shantanu Ganguly) writes:
>|>
>|> Some comments:
>|>
>|> a) Good performance and mid and high speeds can be obtained by adjusting the
>|> top gear and final drive ratios. Contrary to popular misperception, a
>|> number of Japanese cars have quite good performance from 70+ in top
>|> gear.
>
>No problem with that. The question is: do they perform consistently in all
>conditions (roads, winds and curves) at that speed and do so for hours on end,
>year after year without giving the driver white knuckles? From my experience on
>the Autobahns/Autostrade, a good touring car can be easily distinguished by its
>"poise" at >100mph. The best stay on cruise control at 155 for hours. I've
>seen the typical boy racer in a Fiat try to keep up. Sure they hit the century
>mark, but if the wind blows the wrong way they change lanes, and if on an
>overpass, they may fly right into a guardrail. The buffeting at 125 can be
>severe enough to make the hood bend. Tires at 155 can melt, and a pothole can
>kill. Many German cars are designed for this environment, even if they can't
>seem to get out of their own way from a stop light (Mercedes come to mind in
>particular.) And another design point is fuel economy at those speeds. The
>Germans gear the car for very good high speed efficiency (a typical M-B 300E turns
>1500 at 55, almost a stall :-)
Good point. I have no idea how either of my Hondas will handle at 100+ mph,
nor do they reach 155. However, using `high' to be 70-90 mph:
a) They are quite amenable to long high speed drives. I've done several
1k mile+ trips in my Civic with no problems whatsoever. The last big trip
I made was driving from New York to Texas. I remember driving 700-800
miles a day at typically 75-85 mph without any problems. I'm sure I
would have been more comfortable driving a benz, but no white knuckles.
No problems with winds and curves.
Then there was the trip back from New Orleans after Mardi Gras - where
we were doing 80+ all the way to Houston. No problems.
b) Both my cars have surprising good fuel economy at high speeds. I see
no difference between sustained 60 mph and sustained 80mph. On the trip
back from New Orleans, we got about 30 mpg in my Integra, quite ok. Mind
you, the engine revs to almost 4k at 80. The civic is markedly better
than the Integra in fuel economy. 50k miles down the road, I still
get 35 mpg at 70-75 mph driving.
>|> b) I can't understand why these high-scale European marquees are afraid
>|> to design engines that can be repeatedly revved to near redline in
>|> the low gears. I have been doing that for that last 50k miles with
>|> my lowly Civic, with no detriment to either the engine or the clutch,
>|> and getting excellent mpg to boot. I'd call this an engineering hack
>|> to cover up design deficiencies.
>
>At 50k miles you'd still be breaking-in a "high-scale European marquee" They
>typically are designed to last 300,000 miles per engine, 500,000 mi. per
>chassis. (The record is now over 1,500,000 miles on a Benz diesel, and I've
>read about *transmissions* lasting 700,000 miles.) Speaking of
Now now, you can't compare a diesel with a gasoline engine. I see enough
bmws and gasoline mercs for sale that have 100-150k miles on them and advertise
rebuilt engines. If honda was to build an accord for 30k, I'd darn well
expect the sucker to last 300k miles.
>diesels, they have very good efficiency at the cost of acceleration, and are very
>popular in all European cars (diesel is considered the "green" fuel) from the
>smallest econoboxes to the luxo-barges. Again, we see a difference in mentality.
>Diesels in the US are considered slightly worse than useless, and extremely
>"dirty" to boot so you can't give them away.
Ever got caught behind a early 80's 300SDL at a stop light? It's not
pleasant. The newer MB's are a lot better though. The diesel Volvos
and VWs are probably the smelliest offenders.
As for economy, why should we care? Gas is cheap! I personally wouldn't
buy a diesel car for any reason - what does it buy me?
Shantanu Ganguly
Somerset (Motorola)
phone : (512) 795-7146 Motorola Inc, Mail Drop OE 513
fax : (512) 795-7513 6501 William Cannon Drive W.
Austin TX 78735-8598
email : shantanu%ibmoto.com@oakhill.sps.mot.com
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From: hayesj@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (HAYES JAMES MICHAEL JR)
Subject: Windows Disk Drive Test availabel?
Nntp-Posting-Host: rintintin.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
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Is their a pd/freeware hard drive utility that can handle
a compressed IDE drive without screwwing it up?
Need to document occasional failures in reading/writing,
check overall integrity of disk's hardware and sectors.
I believe that all of my problems with DOS/Windows can
be isolated to my drive. Getting occasional corrupted
files, even with smartdrive, 32 bit access turned off.
Had these problems under DOS 5. Only with drive C.
Drive D may have had one failure, but that file was
under the control of Win/Winword on drive C.
All utilities available to me report no problems.
DOS, NDD (NU4.5). Another symptom, SD took forever
on C, and kicked me out with a suspension till NDD run
6 to 8 times.
Thanks.
--
Mike Hayes |"Knowledge is good." - Faber College Motto
WWW |"Knowledge and Thoroughness" -Rensselear Poly Motto
Unemployed Tech, |"No, thank YOU!" -Groucho Marx, 'A Day at the Races'
Driven to banging my head against engineering physics for 4 years.
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From: whit@carson.u.washington.edu (John Whitmore)
Subject: Re: A question about 120VAC outlet wiring..
Keywords: outlet
Article-I.D.: shelley.1qkm8iINN92t
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Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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In article <1qids1INNebl@chnews.intel.com> crichmon@sedona.intel.com (Chris Richmond) writes:
>
>In article <1993Apr14.193122.20818@mprgate.mpr.ca>, vanderby@mprgate.mpr.ca (David Vanderbyl) writes:
>> In article <1993Apr14.172145.27458@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>, crisp@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Russ Crisp) writes:
>> |> I'm considering modernizing some old wiring in my home, and
>> |> I need a little advice on outlet wiring. Several outlets
>> |> are the old 'two prong' type, without the ground. Naturally,
>> |> the wire feeding these outlets is 12/2, WITHOUT the ground
>> |> wire. I noticed at the fusebox that some circuits have the
>> |> 12/2 with ground, and that on these circuits, the ground
>> |> wire was tied to the same bus as the neutral (white) wire.
>> This is contrary to the electrical code and should be fixed.
>Well, my house was built just last year, and the breaker box is wired the
>same way.
There SHOULD be a connection of the GROUND wire to a ground
in the breaker box. There also should be a connection of the NEUTRAL
wire to a ground in the breaker box. There should be no other
place in the building where such a connection occurs (i.e. not in
any of the outlet boxes).
The NEUTRAL (white) wire is a 'grounding conductor' for
the plug, and is NOT safe to touch, while the GROUND (green)
wire is a 'protective ground' and carries no current unless
some kind of electrical fault has occurred. It's safe
to touch the protective ground, but not to touch the
grounding conductor (because there is current in the grounding
conductor, its outlet-box end will not be at the same ground
potential as its breaker-box end).
John Whitmore
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From: scott@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Scott Shalkowski)
Subject: Re: Doing the work of God??!!)
Organization: The University of Western Australia
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Desiree Bradley (Desiree_Bradley@mindlink.bc.ca) wrote:
<. . ..
: The next Sunday, the sermon was about Joshua 6 (where the Israelites
: take Jericho and then proceed to massacre everybody there --- except
: for Rahab, who had sheltered the spies). With those reports about
: Bosnia in my mind, I felt uncomfortable about the minister saying that
: the massacre (the one in Joshua) was right. But what really bothered
: me was that, if I was going to try taking Christianity seriously, I
: shouldn't be so troubled about the reports of "ethnic cleansing" in
: Bosnia. Certainly, my sympathies shouldn't be with the Moslims.
: Considering that the Bosnian Muslims are descendants of Christians
: who, under Turkish rule, converted to Islam could the Serbs be doing
: God's work?
Perhaps it would be useful to ask whether those doing the ethnic
cleansing could be said to be loving those they are killing in the very
act of killing. Does it reflect the attitude of God, who sends rain to
both the just and the unjust? If not, then Christians should be
uncomfortable with it. Jesus gave his followers the law of love to
follow and it is by exhibiting this that disciples will be known.
Doctrinal (or political) correctness is not the standard, so I don't see
why Christians should be moved against the Serbs because their ancestors
converted from Christianity to Islam. It seems to me that as a
Christian you _should_ be troubled by the ethnic cleansing.
--
Peace,
Scott Shalkowski scott@arts.uwa.edu.au
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From: ccraig@nmt.edu (Catherine Craig)
Subject: Re: Trying to view POV files.....
Organization: New Mexico Tech
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In article <1993Apr11.132604.13400@ornl.gov> ednobles@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (Edward d Nobles) writes:
>
>I've been trying to view .tga files created in POVRAY. I have the Diamond
>SpeedStar 24 Video board (not the _24X_). So far I can convert them to
>jpeg using cjpeg and view them with CVIEW but that only displays 8 bit color.
>
>I'm looking for some way to convert and/or view them in 24 bit.
>
>
>Just want to see the darn things in real color...
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim Nobles
>
The best program I've seen for viewing such files is VPIC. You'll want version 5.9 or later. (6.0x is current.) It allows you to view in 15 and 24 bit modes. It really is QUITE nice.
Now, for a return question: Do you run Windows? If so, what are the dates on your drivers? The newest ones *I* can find are from around 4-??-92!! My problem is they conflict with Star Trek: After Dark, and other things as well. I'm willing to bet that it's the drivers, and NOT the programs. Anyone out there have info on newer SS24 (NOT X) drivers for windows or OS/2?
Thanks,
Justin
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From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Subject: Re: Kawi Zephyr? (was Re: Vision vs GpZ 550)
Organization: BC Systems Corporation
Lines: 14
In article <1993Apr4.135829.28141@pro-haven.cts.com>, shadow@pro-haven.cts.com writes:
> In <1993Apr3.094509.11448@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
> asphaug@lpl.arizona.edu (Erik Asphaug x2773) writes:
> % By the way, the short-lived Zephyr is essentially a GpZ 550,
> Why was the "Zephyr" discontinued? I heard something about a problem with
> the name, but I never did hear anything certain...
I don't think the 550 sold very well - most North Americans who ride a standard
rather than a sport bike usually want something bigger. People walk into the
dealership, look at the 550 and the 750 and say, "I might as well spring the
extra bucks for the bigger engine."
--
Bruce Clarke B.C. Environment
e-mail: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
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From: mrb@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (m..bruncati)
Subject: Re: Smoker's Lungs
Article-I.D.: cbnewsj.1993Apr6.161858.12132
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T
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In article <1993Apr5.123315.48837@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, bennett@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> How long does it take a smoker's lungs to clear of the tar after quitting?
> Does your chances of getting lung cancer decrease quickly or does it take
> a considerable amount of time for that to happen?
Seems to me that I read in either a recent NY Times
Science Times or maybe it was Science News that there is
evidence that ex-smoker's risk of lung cancer never returns
to that of a person who has never smoked (I think it may
get close). I'll find the article and post it since my
memory is hazy on the specifics - if you are interested.
Michael
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From: rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie)
Subject: Why the algorithm is secret
Distribution: na
Organization: Center For High Perf. Computing of WPI; Marlboro Ma
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My thoughts on why the algorithm is secret :
The chip is (regretably) likely to become a standard. There will
be many applications where economic factors dictate use of this
chip, like it or not.
If the alrogithm is public, and the code is as secure (absent the
access to escrowed keys) as represented, an enterprising sort
would make "compatible crypto chips for which no key had been
escrowed". This is likely what the release was refering to when
they refered to the secrecy of the algorithm protecting the
security of the escrow system.
rob boudrie
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From: donyee@athena.mit.edu (Donald Yee)
Subject: Re: Tape Backup Question
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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In article <1993Apr15.195810.26648@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>Hello folks!
>
>I have an Archive XL5580 (internal QIC-80) tape drive, which is pretty
>comparable to the Colorado Jumbo 250. Since I have two floppy drives in
>my system, I'm using a small card (not accelerated) made by Archive to
>attach my tape drive as a third floppy device.
>
>The problem: Although the DOS-based QICstream software works just fine,
>both the Norton and Central Point backup programs for Windows fail unless
>I switch the machine to non-turbo speed (I'm using a 486DX/33 EISA). Since
>the DOS software works, it can't be a hardware problem, can it? Has anyone
>seen similar problems? Any solutions? Thanks in advance.
Yeah. Sounds typical. Windows makes all sorts of extra demands on hardware,
and therefore your machine can't keep up with things. Ever notice how when
acessing the floppies in Windows, everything else slows to a crawl? I
imagine your backup and evertyhing else that is running fights for CPU time,
and sometimes the backup program loses. Be glad. I can't even run in
medium speed with CP backup on my machine, supposedly because I have a SCSI
machine which places extra demands on the data bus.
don
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Subject: Conner CP30061G info, please
From: michael@pcmith.rks.se (Michael Thurbin)
Organization: Sommarvagen 1, S-352 37 Vaxjoe, SWEDEN
Lines: 14
I have a Conner-disk model CP30061G (200Mb ??) with no info at all. The only thing I know is that
is normally used with Compaq-machines.
Please, send me information on switch-settings, geometry and so on.
It looks like a normal IDE-disk but is it possible to use it with a standard IDE-controller??
-- Michael
--
**************************************************************************************************
Michael Thurbin
Sommarvagen 1 Phone: +46 (0)47021340
S-352 37 Vaxjoe Fax: +46 (0)47048978
SWEDEN
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Subject: Re: Don't fight Clipper Chip, subvert or replace it !
From: steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Jason 'Think!' Steiner)
Distribution: na
Nntp-Posting-Host: jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
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Marc Thibault (marc@tanda.isis.org) writes:
> (The Jester) writes:
> > Proof Windows is a Virus:It is very widespread, It eats up your disk
> > space, It slows down your computer, It takes control over your
> > computer, It performs disk access at random times, It displays silly
> > messages on your screen, It randomly crashes the computer-Vesselin
> This sounds like a version Unix. Solaris?
as someone who just lived through a switch from SunOS4.x.x. to
Solaris, i'll heartily agree with this.
ObCrypt: one of my main gripes with Solaris is its braindead mailx,
which is -almost- enough like mail to get you hoping, but crashes
horribly when you try to do anything useful with it. (like use pgp-
capable sendmail replacements.)
jason
--
"I stood up on my van. I yelled, `Excuse me, sir. Ain't nothing wrong
with this country that a few plastic explosives won't cure!'"
- Steve Taylor, I Blew Up the Clinic Real Good
`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,` steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu `,`,`,`
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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Why DC-1 will be the way of the future.
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
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In <1r6ub0$mgl@access.digex.net> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
>In article <1993Apr22.164801.7530@julian.uwo.ca> jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:
>> Hmmm. I seem to recall that the attraction of solid state record-
>>players and radios in the 1960s wasn't better performance but lower
>>per-unit cost than vacuum-tube systems.
>>
>I don't think so at first, but solid state offered better reliabity,
>id bet, and any lower costs would be only after the processes really scaled up.
Careful. Making statements about how solid state is (generally) more
reliable than analog will get you a nasty follow-up from Tommy Mac or
Pat. Wait a minute; you *are* Pat. Pleased to see that you're not
suffering from the bugaboos of a small mind. ;-)
--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
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From: steph@cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Subject: Re: Notes on Jays vs. Indians Series
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Distribution: na
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In <C5HpG6.4LM@andy.bgsu.edu> klopfens@andy.bgsu.edu (Bruce Klopfenstein) writes:
>kime@mongoose.torolab.ibm.com (Edward Kim) writes:
[...]
>>
>> I would tend to call the offensive contributions even, but Alomar wins hands
>> down in defensive capabilities. I'm not just talking about the number of
>> errors; nobody (including Lind!) has the range and athleticism at second base.
>> I can't recall in the recent past anyone turning the double play better
>> than Alomar.
>Well, why don't you look up those stats? Baerga may not be the best defensive
>second baseman in the league, but he's damn good. Check the stats for DPs
>last year and see for yourself.
According to the Defensive Average stats posted by Sherri, Baerga had the
highest percentage of DPs turned in the league, while Alomar had the worst.
However, Alomar had a higher Defensive Average. So who would be better?
Using Alomar's opportunities (469 groundballs, 73 possible double plays)
Alomar had 332 groundouts and turned 18 DPs.
Baerga would have had (with same DA & DP%) 328 groundouts and 35 DPs.
Using Baerga's opportunites (545 groundballs, 99 possible double plays).
Alomar would have had (with the same DA & DP%) 386 groundouts and 25 DPs.
Baerga had 381 groundouts and 47 DPs.
Baerga looks better, though it's possible his DP% would be lower with a
different SS.
Will Baerga consistently turn twice as many double plays, however? Alomar
has established a high level of defense, Baerga has not. I would bet on
Alomar to be better next year, but last year Baerga was just as good overall.
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Grad Student At Large
"It is considered good to look wise, especially when not
overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
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From: sfp@lemur.cit.cornell.edu (Sheila Patterson)
Subject: Re: Losing your temper is not a Christian trait
Organization: Cornell University CIT
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Hooray ! I always suspected that I was human too :-) It is the desire to be like
Christ that often causes christians to be very critical of themselves and other
christians. We are supposed to grow, mature, endeavour to be Christ-like but we
are far far far from perfect. Build up the body of Christ, don't tear it down,
and that includes yourself. Jesus loves me just the way I am today, tomorrow and
always (thank God ! :-).
-Sheila Patterson
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From: dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra)
Subject: Re: In memoriam: Dan Kelly and Danny Gallivan
Nntp-Posting-Host: stpl.ists.ca
Organization: Solar Terresterial Physics Laboratory, ISTS
Distribution: na
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In article <burke.1-290393150052@burkemac.oshag.nd.edu> burke.1@nd.edu (R. P. Burke) writes:
>When talking about hockey broadcasters, let's give a moment of silence to
>remember the St. Louis Blues' great, Dan Kelly. (Many of you may have heard
>him in the late 60s and early 70s on CBS.) He used to do Hockey Night In
>Canada intermissions, with another recently deceased great, Danny Gallivan
>of the Canadiens.
Agreed here...I'll never forget Dan Kelly calling the play-by-play in the '87
Canada Cup. He was masterful!
And Danny Gallivan will _never_ be replaced; even now when I watch HNIC I
remember his voice...when I see an Al MacInnis or Al Iafrate (hey, what's with
these guys named Al who can shoot??) shot from the point I still think
"blistering blast"...THN had a tribute to Gallivan in the issue following his
death; in the story they included a quote from one of the games he did. It
went:
"It appears Risebrough has pugnaciously construed that check," he said, "and
will undoubtedly make a visitation to the box of punition."
Classic, vintage Gallivan! He's sorely missed. So here's to two of the best
there was and best that ever will be.
dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca
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From: phil@csc.liv.ac.uk (Phil Jimmieson)
Subject: Duo Dock problems
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University
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Has anyone had any problems with their Duo Dock not ejecting the Duo
properly?
When I first got it, the Duo would come out of the Dock a couple of inches
when ejected, and I had to pull it the rest of the way. Nowadays (and I've
had the system for 4 months), the Duo doesn't come out *at* *all* - despite
the fact that the mechanism makes all the appropriate noises, and I have to
grab hold of it and pull it out myself. Is there a simple fix for this, or
do I have to return it to my Apple Dealer, where it will languish for weeks
while I have to make do with no colour display, no VRAM, no floppy or
SCSI etc.
(BTW, it's not that the Duo is locked into the Dock - it just doesn't
want to slide out any more).
--
Phil Jimmieson, ***********************************************
Computer Science Dept., * JANET : phil@uk.ac.liv.csc *
Liverpool University, * INTERNET : phil@csc.liv.ac.uk *
PO Box 147 ***********************************************
Liverpool L69 3BX "I was head over heels in love until I got cramp"
(UK) 051-794-3689
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From: cerulean@access.digex.com (Bill Christens-Barry)
Subject: cytoskeleton dynamics
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
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NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
Summary: Fast dynamics of cytoskeleton re: transformed cells?
Keywords: cytoskeleton, microtubule, tubulin
I'm looking for good background and review paper references that can help me
understand the dynamics of cytoskeleton in normal and transformed cells. In
particular, I'm not interested in translational behavior and cell motility,
but rather in the internal motions of the cytoskeleton and its components
under normal and transformed circumstances.
Also, I'd appreciate any data on force constants, mechanical, and elastic
properties of microtubules, and viscous properties of cytoplasm. Any other
info relevant to the vibrational or acoustical properties of these would
be useful to me.
Thanks...
Bill Christens-Barry
cerulean@access.digex.com
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From: revans@euclid.ucsd.edu ( )
Subject: Himmler's speech on the extirpation of the Jewish race
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WASHINGTON - A stark reminder of the Holocaust--a speech by Nazi
SS leader Heinrich Himmler that refers to "the extermination of the
Jewish race"--went on display Friday at the National Archives.
The documents, including handwritten notes by Himmler, are
among the best evidence that exists to rebut claims that the
Holocaust is a myth, archivists say.
"The notes give them their authenticity," said Robert Wolfe,
a supervisory archivist for captured German records. "He was
supposed to destroy them. Like a lot of bosses, he didn't obey his
own rules."
The documents, moved out of Berlin to what Himmler hoped
would be a safe hiding place, were recovered by Allied forces after
World War II from a salt mine near Salzburg, Austria.
Himmler spoke on Oct.4, 1943, in Posen, Poland, to more than
100 German secret police generals. "I also want to talk to you,
quite frankly, on a very grave matter. Among ourselves it should be
mentioned quite frankly, and yet we will never speak of it publicly.
I mean the clearing out of the Jew, the extermination of the Jewish
race. This is a page of GLORY in our history which has never been
written and is never to be written." [Emphasis mine--rje]
The German word Himmler uses that is translated as
"extermination" is *Ausrottung*.
Wolfe said a more precise translation would be "extirpation"
or "tearing up by the roots."
In his handwritten notes, Himmler used a euphemism,
"Judenevakuierung" or "evacuation of the Jews." But archives
officials said "extermination" is the word he actually
spoke--preserved on an audiotape in the archives.
Himmler, who oversaw Adolf Hitler's "final solution of the
Jewish question," committed suicide after he was arrested in 1945.
The National Archives exhibit, on display through May 16, is
a preview of the opening of the United States Holocaust Memorial
Museum here on April 26.
The National Archives exhibit includes a page each of
Himmler's handwritten notes, a typed transcript from the speech and
an offical translation made for the Nuremberg war crimes trials.
---From p.A10 of Saturday's L.A. Times, 4/17/93
(Associated Press)
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(revans@math.ucsd.edu)
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From: boyle@cactus.org (Craig Boyle)
Subject: Re: Dumbest automotive concepts of all time
Article-I.D.: cactus.1993Apr15.223029.23340
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Lines: 29
In article <C5JnK3.JKt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (OrioleFan@uiuc) writes:
> Wasn't the original intent of the reverse lights for the driver, so he
>could see where he was backing up??? Although reverse lights on the sides
No. reverse lights are to warn others that you are backing up. They
aren't bright enough to (typically) see by without the brake and tail
lights.
>are useful for telling whether cars are backing up out perpendicular to the
>path of the car, I don't think warnings were their original intents, since they
>are colored white.
Well, red and orange were already taken. Maybe white defines the direction
that the car is moving in.
If you really want to be able to see behind you, get some fog lamps for
the back of the car. These work very well - and are a good way to get
rid of tailgaters if you get that rush of testosterone.
Craig
>
>
>
>--
>Chintan Amin <The University of Illinois UrbanaChampaign> mail: llama@uiuc.edu
>******************************Neil Peart, (c)1981*****************************
>*"Quick to judge, Quick to Anger, Slow to understand, Ignorance and Prejudice*
>*And********Fear********Walk********************Hand*********in*********Hand"*
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From: wrs@wslack.UUCP (Bill Slack)
Subject: Re: Shaft-drives and Wheelies
Distribution: world
Organization: W. R. Slack
Lines: 20
Various posts about shafties can't do wheelies:
>: > No Mike. It is imposible due to the shaft effect. The centripital effects
>: > of the rotating shaft counteract any tendency for the front wheel to lift
>: > off the ground
>
>Good point John...a buddy of mine told me that same thing when I had my
>BMW R80GS; I dumped the clutch at 5,000rpm (hey, ito nly revved to 7 or so) and
>you know what? He was right!
Uh, folks, the shaft doesn't have diddleysquatpoop to do with it. I can get
the front wheel off the ground on my /5, ferchrissake!
Bill
__
wrs@gozer.mv.com (Bill Slack) DoD #430
But her tears were shed in vain and her every word was lost
In the rumble of his engine and the smoke from his exhaust! Oo..o&o
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From: afhetzel@netcom.com (A.F. Hetzel)
Subject: Aviation Headset D.C. H10-40 For Sale
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Lines: 25
For Sale:
David Clark H10-40 Aviation Headset
Excellent Condition (not even a scratch) -- original packaging.
Discover for yourself why the H10-40 continues to be the favorite headset
of thousands of pilots. It was the first headset to have the advanced M-4
amplified electret microphone - with a frequency response specifically
designed to match the human voice. Also includes durable universal boom
assembly and a noise reduction rating (NRR) of 24dB. Weighs 19 oz.
** Includes Telex "push to talk switch"
Asking $220.00 U.S.
Shipping negotiable.
For more information respond to: afhetzel@netcom.com (Andrew)
--
Andrew F. Hetzel "I complete less work before 9:00am than
afhetzel@netcom.com most people do all day."
Ann Arbor, MI USA
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From: mallen@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Matt Allen)
Subject: Amiga's for sale
Keywords: Amiga
Distribution: pa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Lines: 20
Nntp-Posting-Host: eniac.seas.upenn.edu
For Sale:
2 Amigas!
Commodore Amiga 1000 Best offer
512k Ram
1 Internal Floppy drive
Detachable Keyboard
2 Button Mouse
Commodore Amiga 500 Best offer
1024k Ram
1 Internal Floppy drive
2 Button Mouse
1 RGB Monitor Best offer
1 External Floppy drive Best offer
Call Brian Dickman at (717)872-1719 or send e-mail to dickman_con@huey.
millersv.edu.
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From: jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu (Mitch)
Subject: A WRENCH in the works?
Originator: jmcocker@c00068-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu (Mitch)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Lines: 19
Hi all,
I really thought that by now I would have seen something
about this, but I haven't, so here goes: Last night on
the evening news, the anchorperson said something to the
effect that one of the SSRBs that was recovered after the
recent space shuttle launch was found to have a wrench of
some sort rattling around apparently inside the case. There
was no elaboration as to where specfically the item was
found, of what type of wrench it was, but the anchorperson
did say something about a NASA official commenting that
there would be an inquiry into how the thing got in the SSRB.
Has anybody else on the net whose info sources may be
better than mine heard anything about this? It seems rather
weird.
Mitch ---------------------------->jmcocker@eos.ncsu.edu
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From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Re: Can Radio Freq. Be Used To Measure Distance?
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Lines: 25
In article <C5v13M.C37@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> rgc3679@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert G. Carpenter) writes:
>I'm wondering if it's possible to use radio waves to measure the
>distance between a transmitter(s) and receiver?
Yes, you could.
>Seems to me that you should be able to measure the signal strength
>and determine distance. This would be for short distances (2000 ft),
>and I would need to have accuracy of 6 inches, or so.
Well, letsee (whipping out HP-48SX, soon to be GX): 6 inches/3*10^8 m/s=.5
nanoseconds resolution. Hmm. That'll be rather difficult!
The more standard (read: better) method is to use ultrasound, generally
somewhere around 40kHz. Sound travels a heck of a lot slower than light
(radio waves), and is therefore much easier to deal with.
>What frequencies would be best for this? Or does matter?
It might be easiest to visit a hardware store and look at the numerous
"sonic estimator" type devices that do what you want here. Many are pretty
cheap too -- <$30. (In fact, for awhile the Stanley Estimator was selling
for something like $8. That's the one I bought! :-) )
---Joel Kolstad
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From: rnichols@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (robert.k.nichols)
Subject: Re: TrueType fonts that display but do not print.
Summary: Adjust OutlineThreshold
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Lines: 30
In article <1993Apr17.134725.15882@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> avinash@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Avinash Chopde) writes:
>I just installed a new TrueType font under MS-Windows 3.1
>but though all the applications display the font correctly on the
>screen, quite a few of them fail to print out the document correctly
>(on a LaserJet 4 - non-PostScript printer).
...
>But when I use the Windows accessory Write, the printer prints square
>boxes in place of the characters of the new font. Yet, Write does
>display the font correctly on the screen.
This is a common problem with highly complex TrueType fonts. Microsoft
admits to a problem with older versions of the PostScript printer driver,
but I've found it to be pretty generic.
You can get around the problem by adjusting the parameter OutlineThreshold
in the [TrueType] section of WIN.INI. This entry specifies the number of
pels-per-em at which Windows will render TrueType fonts as outline fonts
instead of as bitmap fonts. The default is 256. I've generally been able
to get fonts to work by setting OutlineThreshold=160. Depending on your
printer resolution and the point size you are using, you may need a
different value.
The Windows Resource Kit warns against going above 300. Presumably, that
might cause fonts to print as square boxes or something. :-| (I'm not
smiling.)
--
Bob Nichols
AT&T Bell Laboratories
rnichols@ihlpm.ih.att.com
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From: u083s121@astro.ocis.temple.edu (cis083 sec001 spr93)
Subject: Leading Edge Computer-Buy?
Organization: Temple University
Lines: 46
Nntp-Posting-Host: astro.ocis.temple.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
I saw the following computer in a store and wanted to know if this is a good
computer or does someone see something wrong with it. I also would like to
switch the motherboard later when this computer becomes too slow. Does anyone
know if this is possible with a Leading Edge Computer, or will it be difficult
to find a motherboard that will fit in this computer. Any help will be
greatly appreciated.
Leading Edge- Model PC4170E
* Intel 486SX/25 Mhz CPU
* Supports Intel OverDrive clock-Doubling Processors(What is this?)
* Upgradable to 486DX2/66
* 4 MB RAM upgradable to 32 MB
* 8 KB internal cache
* 1.2 MB 5 1/4" & 1.44 MB 3.5" Disk Drives
* 213 MB Hard Drive
* 1024 x 768 VGA Video Resolution
* 1 MB Video RAM 256 Colors
* 6 Available 16-bit ISA expansion Slots
* One local bus socket (16-bit ISA Compatible)
* 4 5.25" drive bays, 3 external
* One 25-pin Centronics type parallel port
* 2 RS-232C Serial Ports (9 & 25 pin)
* One 15-pin analog video connector
* One PS/2 Compatible mouse port
* 200 Watt power supply
* 101 key keyboard and mouse included
* Software includes Windows 3.1, Dos 5.0, Microsoft Works for Windows
The store wants $1200 (without monitor) for this. Is it a good price?
Thanks!
--
***************************************************
* *
* Nicole Bell at Temple University Philly, PA *
* *
* E-Mail Address: u083s121@astro.ocis.temple.edu *
* Prodigy: JPKN01A *
* *
* "If you're not part of the solution - *
* you're part of the precipitate " *
* Steven Wright *
***************************************************
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From: warren@itexjct.jct.ac.il (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: How many Mutlus can dance on the head of a pin?
Article-I.D.: itexjct.2579
Organization: ITEX, Jerusalem, Israel
Lines: 23
In <1993Apr5.211146.3662@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>I dunno, Warren. Just the other day I heard a rumor that "Serdar Argic"
>(aka Hasan Mutlu and Ahmed Cosar and ZUMABOT) is not really a Turk at all,
>but in fact is an Armenian who is attempting to make any discussion of the
>massacres in Armenia of Turks so noise-laden as to make serious discussion
>impossible, thereby cloaking the historical record with a tremendous cloud
>of confusion.
But what is Hasan B. Multu's middle name? I'm not sure, but I heard
it was "Bibo". I also seem to recall that "Argic" is Azari for "bites
the wax Macedonian".
We don't have a mail address, but how about finding a snail address?
Then instead of quashing Shergold rumors, we could just redirect them
- Ahmed Cosar is a seven year old Greek boy with an incurable case of
crossposting. His wish is to get into the Usenet Book of World
Records for having the highest noise to signal ratio.
--
/|/-\/-\
|__/__/_/
|warren@
/ nysernet.org
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From: arc@cco.caltech.edu (Aaron Ray Clements)
Subject: Re: Another NYTimes Yellow-Sheet Editorial (4/4/93)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 23
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu
feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
[other uninformed, purposefully ignorant gun control ranting deleted]
>* Thanks to the N.R.A., the A.T.F. is prohibited from researching the
>effectiveness of using taggants in explosives, Taggants are a cheap
>and technologically feasible microscopic additive that would help
>investigators at crime scenes - like the World Trade Center bombing
>- trace the explosives involved.
I want this man to tell me how in the hell you can take the
explosives used in the WTC bombing, considering that the
consensus seems to be that the explosive was a fertilizer-based
one. Ammonium nitrate, to be exact . . . of which about
90,000 tons disappears per year (if I recall the stat correctly;
I don't have it here.) Just one more disregarding of reality
to push a point.
[more bunk deleted]
aaron
arc@cco.caltech.edu
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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Subject: Ungrounded GFCIs; was: Re: A question about 120VAC outlet wiring.
Nntp-Posting-Host: aisun3.ai.uga.edu
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
Lines: 22
In article <1qmisf$odp@sdl.Warren.MENTORG.COM> garyg@warren.mentorg.com writes:
>>
>>What you CAN do if you want three-prong outlets without additional wiring is
>>to use a GFCI outlet (or breaker, but the outlet will be cheaper). In fact,
>>depending on where you are putting your new outlet(s), a GFCI may be *required*.
>
>You still need to supply a proper ground for a Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter!
Oddly enough, you don't, at least according to the wiring FAQ that
is regularly posted on misc.consumers.house.
A GFCI senses discrepancies between the live and neutral wire currents,
and cuts them both off if a discrepancy is found. No ground connection
is needed for it to function.
--
:- Michael A. Covington, Associate Research Scientist : *****
:- Artificial Intelligence Programs mcovingt@ai.uga.edu : *********
:- The University of Georgia phone 706 542-0358 : * * *
:- Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A. amateur radio N4TMI : ** *** ** <><
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From: mark.whalley@uk.co.gec-mrc (Mark Whalley)
Subject: Windows Backgrounds
Reply-To: mark.whalley@uk.co.gec-mrc (Mark Whalley)
Organization: GEC-Marconi Research Centre, Great Baddow, Essex
Lines: 21
Help, I'm bored with the current Windows backgrounds we have here and am
looking for some nifty pictures to use instead. I've seen from previous posts
that many sites exist that store pictures - available through anonymous ftp.
Except that I can't ftp to remote sites from my machine, what I CAN do is use
'ftpmail' - mail a list of commands to a server and receive a mail of files,
and/or data back.
Does anyone know of sites, with Windows compatible pictures, that can be
accessed in such a way???
If you do would you please post them.
TIA
Mark.
PS. Maybe this would make a useful FAQ
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| mark.whalley@gec-mrc.co.uk | 'Only in silence the word, |
| Phone +44 245 473331 Exn. 3114 | Only in darkness light, |
| The views expressed here are mine, | Only in dying life, |
| all mine, and nothing whatsoever to | Bright the hawk's flight on the |
| do with GEC-MRC. | empty sky' - Ursula K. Le Guin |
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From: thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Jewish Baseball Players?
Article-I.D.: midway.1993Apr15.221049.14347
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Lines: 32
In article <1qkkodINN5f5@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> pablo@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Pablo A Iglesias) writes:
>In article <15APR93.14691229.0062@lafibm.lafayette.edu> VB30@lafibm.lafayette.edu (VB30) writes:
>>Just wondering. A friend and I were talking the other day, and
>>we were (for some reason) trying to come up with names of Jewish
>>baseball players, past and present. We weren't able to come up
>>with much, except for Sandy Koufax, (somebody) Stankowitz, and
>>maybe John Lowenstein. Can anyone come up with any more. I know
>>it sounds pretty lame to be racking our brains over this, but
>>humor us. Thanks for your help.
>
>Hank Greenberg would have to be the most famous, because his Jewish
>faith actually affected his play. (missing late season or was it world
>series games because of Yom Kippur)
The other Jewish HOF'er is Rod Carew (who converted).
Lowenstein is Jewish, as well as Montana's only representative to the
major leagues.
Undeserving Cy Young award winner Steve Stone is Jewish. Between Stone,
Koufax, Ken Holtzman (? might have the wrong pitcher, I'm thinking of the
one who threw a no-hitter in both the AL and NL), and Big Ed Reulbach,
that's quite a starting rotation. Moe Berg can catch. Harry Steinfeldt,
the 3b in the Tinkers-Evers-Chance infield.
Is Stanky Jewish? Or is that just a "Dave Cohen" kinda misinterpretation?
Whatever, doesn't look like he stuck around the majors too long.
--
ted frank |
thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu | I'm sorry, the card says "Moops."
the u of c law school |
standard disclaimers |
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