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Subject: Re: "Proper gun control?" What is proper gun cont
From: kim39@scws8.harvard.edu (John Kim)
Organization: Harvard University Science Center
Nntp-Posting-Host: scws8.harvard.edu
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In article <C5JGz5.34J@SSD.intel.com> hays@ssd.intel.com (Kirk Hays) writes:
>I'd like to point out that I was in error - "Terminator" began posting only
>six months before he purchased his first firearm, according to private email
>from him.
>I can't produce an archived posting of his earlier than January 1992,
>and he purchased his first firearm in March 1992.
>I guess it only seemed like years.
>Kirk Hays - NRA Life, seventh generation.
I first read and consulted rec.guns in the summer of 1991. I
just purchased my first firearm in early March of this year.
NOt for lack of desire for a firearm, you understand. I could
have purchased a rifle or shotgun but didn't want one.
-Case Kim
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From: mwbg9715@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Wayne Blunier)
Subject: Re: 5W30, 10W40, or 20W50
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest) writes:
>If you're planning on making long drives, the 20W50 is probably fine
>(esp. in the summer) in your 10W40 car. But if you're making short drives,
>stick to the 10W40.
Several years ago GM was having trouble with the rings sticking on the
5.7 diesel. They traced a cause to the use of 10W-40 oil. They would
not honor warranty work if 10W-40 was used (if my memory serves me).
5-30, 10-30 or 20 50 was OK'd though.
Mark B.
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From: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen)
Subject: Re: Binyamin Netanyahu on CNN tonight.
In-Reply-To: mkaye@world.std.com's message of Thu, 15 Apr 1993 13:56:58 GMT
Originator: clamen@BYRON.SP.CS.CMU.EDU
Nntp-Posting-Host: byron.sp.cs.cmu.edu
Reply-To: clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
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In article <C5J2qz.MnE@world.std.com> mkaye@world.std.com (Martin Kaye) writes:
Great interview with Benjamin Netanyahu on CNN - Larry King Live (4/15/93)
This guy is knows what he is talking about. He is truely charismatic,
articulate, intelligent, and demonstrates real leadership qualities.
I agree, but I wish I liked his politics.
--
Stewart M. Clamen Internet: clamen@cs.cmu.edu
School of Computer Science UUCP: uunet!"clamen@cs.cmu.edu"
Carnegie Mellon University Phone: +1 412 268 2145
5000 Forbes Avenue Fax: +1 412 681 5739
Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3891, USA
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From: johnsd2@rpi.edu (Dan Johnson)
Subject: Re: intolerance - eternal life - etc
Reply-To: johnsd2@rpi.edu
Organization: not Sun Microsystems
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I apologize if this article is slightly confusing, and late. The origonal
draft didn't make it through the moderators quote-screens. So I did
violence to it, but if you remember the article I am responding
to it should still make sence.
In article 1850@geneva.rutgers.edu, jsledd@ssdc.sas.upenn.edu (James Sledd) writes:
>Hi Xian Netters, God bless you
What, no hello for heathan netters?
I feel all left out now. :(
[deletia- table of content, intro, homosexuality]
>
>INCREDIBLY CHOPPED UP POST
[deletia- incorrect attributions]
Uh, you have your attributions wrong, you were responding
to my article, so Dan Johnson should be the 1st one.
>In article 28388@athos.rutgers.edu, jayne@mmalt.guild.org
>(Jayne Kulikauskas) writes:
[deletia- no free gifts speil nuked by moderator fiat.]
>I find that I am dissatisfied with the little purposes that we can
>manufacture for ourselves. Little in the cosmic sense.
Ah, in the _cosmic_ sence.. but who lives in the cosmic sence?
Not me! Cosmicly, we don't even exist for all practical purposes.
I can hardly use the Cosmic Sence Of Stuff as a guide to life.
It would just say: "don't bother."
Luckily for mortals, there are many sences of scale you can talk
about. In a human sence, you can have big purposes.
> Even the
>greatest of the great pharos are long gone, the pyramids historical
>oddities being worn down by the wind, eventually to be turned into dust.
But the influence of Aristotle, Confucious, Alexander, Ceasar and
countless others is still with us, although their works have perished.
But they have changed to course of history, and while humanity exists,
their deeds cannot be said to have come to nothing, even if they
are utterly forgotten.
>Mankind itself will one day perish.
One day, surely. (well, unless you believe in the Second Coming, which
I do not)
But in that time we can make a difference.
> Without some interconnectedness
>that transcends the physical, without God, it is all pointless in the
>end.
In the end. But it must be the end; until then, there is all the
point you can muster. And when that end comes, there will be nobody
to ask, "Gee, I don't think James Sledd's deeds are gonna make
much of a difference, ulitmately, ya know?".
But they will have already have made a difference, great or small,
before the end.
Why must your ends be eternal to be worthwhile?
> Most people are able to live with that, and for them little
>purposes (success, money, power, effecting change, helping others)
>suffice.
Little is in the eye of the beholder, of course.
> I suppose they never think about the cosmic scale, or are at
>least able to put it out of their minds.
I don't doubt it. But I have thought about the cosmic scale. And
it does not seem to mean much to us, here, today.
>To me, it is comforting to know that reality is an illusion.
I would not find this comforting. But perhaps it is merely my
definitions. Here's what I think the relevant terms are:
"Reality" That which is real.
"Illusion" That which is not real, but seems to be.
"Real" Objectively Existing
For "reality" to be an "illusion" would mean, then:
That which is real is not real, but seems to be.
Or:
That which objectively exists, does not objectively exist, but
does seem to objectively exist.
From which we can conclude, that unless you want to get a
contradiction, that no things objectively exist.
But I have a problem with this because I would like to say
that *I* objectively exist, if nothing else. Cogito Ergo Sum
and all that.
Perhaps you do not mean all that, but rather mean:
"Objective Reality is Unreachable by humans."
Which is not so bad, and so far as I know is true.
> That the
>true reality underneath the the physical is spirit.
Have on. If reality is an illusion, isn't True Reality an illusion
too? And if True Reality is spirit, doens't that make Spirit an Illusion
as well?
If I am not distinctly confused, this is getting positively Buddhist.
> That this world is a school of sorts, where we learn
>and grow, and our souls mature.
That is one hell of a statement, although perhaps true.
Do you mean to imply that it was *intended* to be so? If so,
please show that this is true. If not, please explain how this
can give a purpose to anything.
> That gives a purpose to my little purposes,
How does it do that?
Wouldn't the world=school w/ intent idea make the world a preparation for
some *greater* purpose, rather than a purpose in itself.
> and takes some of the pressure off.
What pressure?
> It's not so necessary to make this life a success in human terms
>if you're really just here to learn.
It is not necessary to be a success in human terms, unless your
goals either include doing so or require doing so before they
themselves can be achived.
Indeed, many people have set goals for themselves that
do not include success in human terms as _I_ understand it. Check
out yer Buddhist monk type guy. Out for nirvana, which is not
at all the same thing.
> It's more important to progress,
>grow, persist, to learn to love yourself and others and to express your
>love, especially when it's dificult to do so. Honest effort is rewarded
>by God, he knows our limitations.
Why is learning to love a goal? What happens if you fail in this
goal? To you? To God? To the mysterious Purpose?
[deletia- question about immortailty and my answer deleted because it was
mostly quote.]
>TWO SERIOUS QUESTIONS/INVITATIONS TO DISCUSSION
>1. What is the nature of eternal life?
>2. How can we as mortals locked into space time conceive of it?
>
>Possible answer for #2: The best we can do is Metaphor/Analogy
>Question 2A What is the best metaphor?
I'll have a crack at that.
(1) The nature of eternal life is neatly described by its name: It is
the concept of life without death, life without end.
(2) No. We can put together word to describe it, but we cannot imagine it.
(2a) No metaphor is adequate next to eternity; if it were we could not
understand it either. (or so I suspect)
---
- Dan Johnson
And God said "Jeeze, this is dull"... and it *WAS* dull. Genesis 0:0
These opinions probably show what I know.
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From: djb@silverton.berkeley.edu (D. J. Bernstein)
Subject: Re: Clipper chip -- technical details
Organization: IR
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In article <1993Apr19.052005.20665@ulysses.att.com> smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
> Nothing was said about where K_P comes from.
Oh? Hellman said ``each user will get to choose his or her own key.''
That's the key which I called K_P, the session key. According to
Hellman, if Alice and Bob are communicating with the Clipper Chip,
then Alice chooses ``her own key'' and Bob chooses ``his own key.''
This is incompatible with the suggestion that when Alice and Bob are
talking, they use a _common_ K_P, chosen by classical or public-key
approaches.
The protocol/key-management description published so far is either
incomplete or incorrect. It leaves me with no idea of how the system
would actually _work_. I hope the CPSR FOIA request succeeds so that
we get full details.
---Dan
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From: baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke)
Subject: Re: Keeping Spacecraft on after Funding Cuts.
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
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Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
In article <1993Apr20.204335.157595@zeus.calpoly.edu>, jgreen@trumpet.calpoly.edu (James Thomas Green) writes...
>Why do spacecraft have to be shut off after funding cuts. For
>example, Why couldn't Magellan just be told to go into a "safe"
>mode and stay bobbing about Venus in a low-power-use mode and if
>maybe in a few years if funding gets restored after the economy
>gets better (hopefully), it could be turned on again.
It can be, but the problem is a political one, not a technical one.
___ _____ ___
/_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov
| | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab |
___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | The aweto from New Zealand
/___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | is part caterpillar and
|_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | part vegetable.
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From: eialbur@sgies9.sdrc.com (Ron Albury)
Subject: Re: Procomm Plus for windows problems....
Organization: SDRC
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You have a lot more problems keeping up with hardware interrupts in Windows than
in DOS - regardless of what communication software you are using.
Try the following:
1) Turn off disk write cache for the disk you are downloading to. The
cache will save up so much that when it grabs control of the machine
it takes too long to write to disk and you loose characters.
2) Use a different UART for your serial line. The old UART's (8250 or 16450)
can only buffer one character internally. The new UART's (16550) can
buffer 16, which should be plenty for most situations. You can run
\windows\msd.exe to find out what UART is on the machine.
Ron
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From: abbott@priory.enet.dec.com (Robert Abbott)
Subject: Re: water in trunk of 89 Probe??
Nntp-Posting-Host: priory
Organization: TP Performance
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In article <1r1crn$27g@transfer.stratus.com>, tszeto@sneezy.ts.stratus.com (Tommy Szeto) writes...
>Water gradually builds up in the trunk of my friend's 89 Ford Probe. Every
>once in a while we would have to remove the spare and scoop out the water
>under the plywood/carpet cover on the trunk. I would guess this usually happens
>after a good thunder storm. A few Qs:
>
>1) Is this a common problem?
>2) Where are the drain holes located for the hatch?
>
I had the same problem in my '90 MX-6. Luckily I had it fixed
under warranty. I think they replaced a tail light gasket.
Check with a dealer, it's a known problem.
------------------------
Robert K. Abbott
abbott@tps.enet.dec.com
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From: seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr)
Subject: Re: Flyers [Re: This year's biggest and worst (opinion)...]
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Keywords: NHL, awards
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In article <1993Apr14.165617.3215@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes) writes:
> In article <1993Apr13.144030.28994@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr) writes:
>
> >So Roussel was giving up almost another goal a game while facing a proportional
> >number of shots for the number of minutes he played, and while I have't
> >actually checked I believe that he faced a lower quality of opponent.
>
> Make that less than half a goal a game. The lower quality of opponet
> argument is immaterial as neither Roussel nor Soderstrom had any say in
> the matter. That was Dineen's decision.
So in other words, if Roussel shuts out the Sharks and Soderstrom shuts out
the Penguins, that's immaterial because it was the coaches decision? Come on,
Joe, think about what you're saying! Who they played is VERY significant.
Why they played them is what's irrelevent. A low GAA against good teams
is better than a low GAA against bad teams in the context of comparing two
goaltenders. A low GAA is better then a higher GAA. A low GAA against good
teams is much, much better than a higher GAA against bad teams in the context
of comparing two goaltenders.
> > The fact of the matter is that, despite last nights shutout, he doesn't
> > have what it takes. Last night was due to an inept Ranger team much more
> > than Roussel's skill. A 3 on 1 and they don't get a shot away? A 2 on none
> > and one guy just passes and stops, the other guy shoots into Roussel's pad?
>
> C'mon, Pete? So the Rangers were inept. A shutout is a shutout. During
> both of Soderstrom's masterpieces against Toronto, Mike Emerich was quoted
> as saying he didn't think the Leafs had much offensive firepower past their
> first line. Does that make Soderstrom's shutouts less impressive because of
> Toronto's lack of offense?
YES IT DOES! Absolutely. **In the context of comparing two goaltenders**.
Of course, at the end of the season 2 points is 2 points no matter how you
get them. And on the score sheets shutouts are shutouts. But if you're a
coach deciding between two goalies, or a GM looking to make a trade, you
have got to look deeper than the stat sheets. I didn't see the second Toronto
game, but the first one was a defensive masterpiece. There was nothing in
that game to judge Tommy Soderstrom on because he wasn't tested. The same
for Roussel in the Ranger game. Two real scoring chances, one he made a
great play, the other he was saved by a mistake from the other player. If
you were judging Roussel on that game alone, you have very little to go by.
But if you were to look at the 0-0 tie against the Habs, you saw a goalie
stand on his head to get that shutout. THAT was a #1 goalie in action. Roussel
doesn't have a game like that in him.
> Well if you look back to November when Roussel was the #1 goalie (Soderstrom
> was being treated for his heart ailment). The Flyers finished November at
> 6-3-1 and were 9-10-4 overall. And there's no way of knowing where the Flyers
> would have finished if Soderstom wasn't wearing the oragne 'n black. I'm glad
> we don't have to find out anytime soon either because he is one hell of a
> player. I would take him over Roussel right now, but I still think Dom has
> what it takes to be the #1 guy. He outperformed Hextall enough during the
> '91-92 season to make Flyers management think that way too.
Don't be so sure of that. FLYERS management never says bad thing about
Roussel, but they don't say too much on the good side either. I've seen
at least two interviews where every time Farwell was asked how happy he was
to have two good goaltenders, it was Tommy this, Tommy that, and oh, yeah,
Dom has played well too.
> By the way, what was the final card on Monday night? Team picture by any
> chance?
FLYERS in the NHL Hall of Fame. Kinda dull, really. They handed out a
team picture to everybody who walked in from Pizza Hut, but it was the
same picture they sold in the programs in mid-season. Had names like Benning,
Kasper...
> And how did the Flyers choose the fans who received "the shirts off our
> backs?" Winning Recchi's jersey after breaking the club's single season
> point record would have been nice. But knowing your luck you would have
> won Roussel's:-)!
Mostly random seat locations, some were given out by having certain
autographs on the team photos. I don't like that method since I've seen
guards help out people get things like Lindros pictures, surely if they
got their hands on an autographed picture they'd hold 'em for their buddies.
pete clark
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From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: nuclear waste
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
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In <1993Apr2.150038.2521@cs.rochester.edu> dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz) writes:
>In article <1993Apr1.204657.29451@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>>>This system would produce enough energy to drive the accelerator,
>>>perhaps with some left over. A very high power (100's of MW CW or
>>>quasi CW), very sharp proton beam would be required, but this appears
>>>achievable using a linear accelerator. The biggest question mark
>>>would be the lead target chemistry and the on-line processing of all
>>>the elements being incinerated.
>>
>>Paul, quite frankly I'll believe that this is really going to work on
>>the typical trash one needs to process when I see them put a couple
>>tons in one end and get (relatively) clean material out the other end,
>>plus be able to run it off its own residual power. Sounds almost like
>>perpetual motion, doesn't it?
>Fred, the honest thing to do would be to admit your criticism on
>scientific grounds was invalid, rather than pretend you were actually
>talking about engineering feasibility. Given you postings, I can't
>say I am surprised, though.
Well, pardon me for trying to continue the discussion rather than just
tugging my forelock in dismay at having not considered actually trying
to recover the energy from this process (which is at least trying to
go the 'right' way on the energy curve). Now, where *did* I put those
sackcloth and ashes?
[I was not and am not 'pretending' anything; I am *so* pleased you are
not surprised, though.]
>No, it is nothing like perpetual motion.
Note that I didn't say it was perpetual motion, or even that it
sounded like perpetual motion; the phrase was "sounds almost like
perpetual motion", which I, at least, consider a somewhat different
propposition than the one you elect to criticize. Perhaps I should
beg your pardon for being *too* precise in my use of language?
>The physics is well
>understood; the energy comes from fission of actinides in subcritical
>assemblies. Folks have talked about spallation reactors since the
>1950s. Pulsed spallation neutron sources are in use today as research
>tools. Accelerator design has been improving, particularly with
>superconducting accelerating cavities, which helps feasibility. Los
>Alamos has expertise in high current accelerators (LAMPF), so I
>believe they know what they are talking about.
I will believe that this process comes even close to approaching
technological and economic feasibility (given the mixed nature of the
trash that will have to be run through it as opposed to the costs of
separating things first and having a different 'run' for each
actinide) when I see them dump a few tons in one end and pull
(relatively) clean material out the other. Once the costs,
technological risks, etc., are taken into account I still class this
one with the idea of throwing waste into the sun. Sure, it's possible
and the physics are well understood, but is it really a reasonable
approach?
And I still wonder at what sort of 'burning' rate you could get with
something like this, as opposed to what kind of energy you would
really recover as opposed to what it would cost to build and power
with and without the energy recovery. Are we talking ounces, pounds,
or tons (grams, kilograms, or metric tons, for you SI fans) of
material and are we talking days, weeks, months, or years (days,
weeks, months or years, for you SI fans -- hmmm, still using a
non-decimated time scale, I see ;-))?
>The real reason why accelerator breeders or incinerators are not being
>built is that there isn't any reason to do so. Natural uranium is
>still too cheap, and geological disposal of actinides looks
>technically reasonable.
--
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
in the real world." -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
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From: aa888@freenet.carleton.ca (Mark Baker)
Subject: Re: The arrogance of Christians
Reply-To: aa888@freenet.carleton.ca (Mark Baker)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
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To what follows, our moderator has already answered the charge of
arrogance more ably that I could have done so, so I will confine
myself to answering the charge of illogic.
In a previous article, Eugene.Bigelow@ebay.sun.com (Geno) says:
>>If I don't think my belief is right and everyone else's belief is wrong,
>>then I don't have a belief. This is simply what belief means.
>
>Unfortunatly, this seems to be how Christians are taught to think when
>it comes to their religion.
This is how everyone in the western intellectual tradition is, or was,
taught to think. It is the fundamental premis "A is not not-A". If a thing
is true then its converse is necessarilly false. Without this basic
asumption theology and science as we know them are alike impossible. We
should distinguish the strong and weak meanings of the word "believe",
however. The weak sense means I am not sure. "I believe Tom went to
the library." (but he could have gone to the track). The strong sense
means I am so certain that I use it as a basis of thought. "I believe
that nature operates according to certain fundamental laws." (despite
the fact that nature *appears* capricious and unpredictable). Christian
belief is of the strong kind. (Though Christians may well hold beliefs
of the weak kind on any number of theological and ecclesiological
topics.)
>Some take it to the extreme and say that
>their religion is the ONLY one and if you don't accept their teachings
>then you won't be "saved".
Note that these are two separate ideas. Most hold the first view, but the
majority do not hold the second. Is is again a matter of pure logic that
if Christanity is true, then Hinduism (for example) must necessarilly be
false, insofar as it contradicts or is incompatible with, Christaianity.
(And, as a matter of *logic*, vice versa.)
>It takes quite a bit of arrogance to claim
>to know what God thinks/wants.
It is arrogant to claim to know what *anyone* thinks or wants, unless
they have told you. Christians believe God has told us what he thinks
and wants.
>Especially when it's based upon your
>interpretation of a book.
Most Christians do not base their belief on the Bible, but on the living
tradition of the Church established by Christ and guided constantly
by the Holy Spirit. The Bible is simply the written core of that tradition.
>The logic in the above statement is faulty
>in that it assumes two people with differing beliefs can't both be
>correct.
If depends what you mean by differing. If I believe Tom is six feet
tall and you believe he weighs 200 pounds, our beliefs differ, but we
may both be right. If I believe Tom is six feet tall and you beleive
that he is four foot nine, one of us, at least, must be wrong.
>It's all about perception. No two people are exactly alike.
>No two people perceive everything in the same way. I believe that
>there is one truth. Call it God's truth, a universal truth, or call it
>what you will. I don't believe God presents this truth. I think it is
>just there and it's up to you to look for and see it, through prayer,
>meditation, inspir- ation, dreams or whatever. Just because people may
>perceive this truth differently, it doesn't mean one is wrong and the
>other is right.
Thus you believe that there is a single truth but that no human being
can find it. You assert that anyone who believe that we can find
absolute truth is mistaken. In short, you believe that anyone who
does not share your belief on this point is wrong. QED.
>As an example, take the question, "Is the glass half
>empty or half full"? You can have two different answers which are
>contradictory and yet both are correct. So, for your belief to be
>true, does not require everyone else's belief to be wrong.
Here I begin to suspect that your real difficulty is not with the
knowability of truth, but simply with language. Saying that the glass
is half empty is not a contradiction of the statement that it is half
full: it is the same fact expressed in different words. (The whole
point of this phrase is to illustrate the different ways the pessimist
and the optimist express the *same* fact.)
It is, of course, quite true that different people may express the
same belief in different words. It is also true that they may fail
to understand each other's words as expressions of the same belief
and may argue bitterly and believe that they are miles apart. Great
scisms have occurred in just this way, and much ecumenical work has
been done simply in resolving differences in language which conceal
agreement in belief. This does not mean, in any sense, that all beliefs
are equally valid. Since some of the beliefs people hold contradict
some other beliefs that other people hold, after all obfuscations
of language and culture in the expression of those beliefs have
been stripped away, some of the beliefs that some people hold must,
**necessarilly** be false, and it is neither arrogant nor illogical
to say so. If I believe X and you believe Y we may both be correct,
but if Y is equivalent to not-X then one of us is wrong and as long
as we hold our respective beliefs, we must each regard the other
as in error.
--
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Mark Baker | "The task ... is not to cut down jungles, but
aa888@Freenet.carleton.ca | to irrigate deserts." -- C. S. Lewis
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From: cerna@ntep.tmg.nec.co.JP (Alexander Cerna (SV))
Subject: transparent widgets--how?
Organization: The Internet
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NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
Cc: cerna@ntep.tmg.nec.co.jp
I need to write an application which does annotation notes
on existing documents. The annotation could be done several
times by different people. The idea is something like having
several acetate transparencies stacked on top of each other
so that the user can see through all of them. I've seen
something like this being done by the oclock client.
Could someone please tell me how to do it in Xt?
Thank you very much.
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From: manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve Manes)
Subject: Re: Gun Control (was Re: We're Mad as Hell at the TV News)
Organization: Manes and Associates, NYC
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Steve Kao (k@hprnd.rose.hp.com) wrote:
: Frank Crary posted:
: : Sure, but the difference in per-capita crime rates predates the
: : gun control laws: The homicide rate in England was a tenth that
: : of America, back when anyone in England could buy a gun without
: : any paperwork at all.
: Steve Manes asks:
: > Got a citation for this?
: Colin Greenwood from Scotland Yard did a study that showed that gun
: control has had no effect on crime or murder rates in the UK. His book,
: _Firearms_Controls_, has been published in London by Keegan Paul (name
: may be misspelled).
Others dispute that, like Richard Hofstadter, <America As A Gun Culture>,
and Newton and Zimring's <Firearms and Violence in American Life>. But,
again, statistics between too dissimilar cultures are difficult to
quantify.
I don't know how anyone can state that gun control could have NO
effect on homicide rates. There were over 250 >accidental< handgun
homicides in America in 1990, most with licensed weapons. More
American children accidentally shot other children last year (15)
than all the handgun homicides in Great Britain. (Source: National
Safety Council. Please... no dictionary arguments about RATES vs
TOTAL NUMBERS, okay? They're offered for emphasis, not comparison).
If Mr. Greenwood believes that Brits are much too sober and
coordinated to make such mistakes I'd like to introduce him to my
friend, Amanda from Brighton. I used to have some pretty nice
crystal in my place until she moved in. I've gotten used to the
snide comments from guests about the clown motif on my rubber
wine glasses.
--
Stephen Manes manes@magpie.linknet.com
Manes and Associates New York, NY, USA =o&>o
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From: duck@nuustak.csir.co.za (Paul Ducklin)
Subject: Re: Do we need the clipper for cheap security?
Organization: CSIR, South AFrica
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X-Disclaimer: None of the opions expressed herein are the official
X-Disclaimer: opinions of the CSIR or any of its subsidiaries.
X-Disclaimer: ** So don't freak out at _us_ about anything **
gtoal@gtoal.com (Graham Toal) writes:
>Can someone tell me if hardware compression is or is not needed to run
>digital speech down 14.4K? I think it is; I've heard it's not. Lets
>say 8 bit samples. Would *raw* data at the corresponding sampling rate
>be usable? If not, how fancy does the compression need to be?
It's all easy with a DSP. The Olivetti Quaderno, for example [*great* 1kg
subnotebook/palmtop PC -- sorry for the plug, folks, but Olivetti don't
seem to be doing a good job marketing it themselves :-)] includes sound
digitisation hardware; they provide vocoders for their DSP which produce
varous bit-rates. There's one which gives pretty acceptable voice
quality at 13Kbit/sec, just right for a V.32bis modem.
Their DSP can play and record at the same time, too -- so you wouldn't
need to play "two-way-radio". You can also download code to the DSP
subunit, though you'd need a software development kit for the DSP in
question [dunno which it is...] if you wanted to produce your own
vocoder for, say, V.32 speeds.
Paul
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From: rick@howtek.MV.COM (Rick Roy)
Subject: 8*24 card questions
Organization: Howtek, Inc.
Reply-To: rick@howtek.MV.COM (Rick Roy)
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I'm considering buying one of these to offload the internal video
in my IIci and to get 24 bit color capability on my 13" monitor. What's
the deal on them?
1) Do they come with varying amounts of RAM? If so, what is the max
and min? How much do I need for 640 x 480 x 24 bits?
2) What bit depths are supported? One, 2, 4, 8, 16, and 24?
3) Are all these cards accelerated or just some? Is it true that
modern accelerated video cards are (at least in general) faster? What
bit depths are accelerated, all or just 24 bit? I've heard that some
applications actually run *slower* with this card if they write directly
to the screen (or something like that). Is this a frequent problem?
How much slower is it?
4) Didn't I read (when System 7 first came out) that the card was
incompatible? If so, how was this corrected (Finder patch, some INIT,
or other)? Has it been kept compatible with 7.1? Are there many other
apps that it is incompatible with (games or important (i.e., non-
Microsloth) apps, for example)?
5) If you have a strong opinion on it's value for someone in my position,
let me know what you think a reasonable price is to pay for it.
Thanks a lot for you input.
Rick
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Disclaimer: My employer's views are orthogonal to these.
The early bird got worms.
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From: annick@cortex.physiol.su.oz.au (Annick Ansselin)
Subject: Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition?
Nntp-Posting-Host: cortex.physiol.su.oz.au
Organization: Department of Physiology, University of Sydney, NSW, Australia
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In <C5nFDG.8En@sdf.lonestar.org> marco@sdf.lonestar.org (Steve Giammarco) writes:
>>
>>And to add further fuel to the flame war, I read about 20 years ago that
>>the "natural" MSG - extracted from the sources you mention above - does not
>>cause the reported aftereffects; it's only that nasty "artificial" MSG -
>>extracted from coal tar or whatever - that causes Chinese Restaurant
>>Syndrome. I find this pretty hard to believe; has anyone else heard it?
MSG is mono sodium glutamate, a fairly straight forward compound. If it is
pure, the source should not be a problem. Your comment suggests that
impurities may be the cause.
My experience of MSG effects (as part of a double blind study) was that the
pure stuff caused me some rather severe effects.
>I was under the (possibly incorrect) assumption that most of the MSG on
>our foods was made from processing sugar beets. Is this not true? Are
>there other sources of MSG?
Soya bean, fermented cheeses, mushrooms all contain MSG.
>I am one of those folx who react, sometimes strongly, to MSG. However,
>I also react strongly to sodium chloride (table salt) in excess. Each
>causes different symptoms except for the common one of rapid heartbeat
>and an uncomfortable feeling of pressure in my chest, upper left quadrant.
The symptoms I had were numbness of jaw muscles in the first instance
followed by the arms then the legs, headache, lethargy and unable to keep
awake. I think it may well affect people differently.
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From: finnegan@invader.navo.navy.mil (Kenneth Finnegan)
Subject: Re: 5W30, 10W40, or 20W50
Article-I.D.: cs.1993Apr6.130550.13550
Reply-To: finnegan@navo.navy.mil
Organization: Grumman Data Systems
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As an additional data point, I have run Castrol 20W50 exclusively
in the following cars: 75 Rabbit, 78 Scirocco, 76 Rabbit, 78 Bus,
70 Beetle, 76 Bus, 86 Jetta GLI. I've never had an oil-related
problem.
Disclaimer: It gets mighty hot down here.
Kenneth
finnegan@navo.navy.mil
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Subject: Re: Mac OS on a 486!!!
From: Keith Whitehead <sir@office.acme.gen.nz>
X-Mailer: rnMac Buggy, I mean Beta, Test Version
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In article <C508BJ.6E2@imag.fr>, you write:
>
> hillman (hillman@plk.af.mil) wrote:
> : deathbird+@CMU.EDU (Donpaul C. Stephens)
> :
> : kind of slated wouldn't you say?) Who is going to throw all that to
the
> : side and get the Mac OS for 486???
Not Quite the point to be considdered here!
Fact: If/When Apple release system 7 (or what ever is current at the time
of release) then you will see shortly afterwards Apple no longer producing
Hardware...Look at Next with their NextStep486 to see what happens.
Who is going to pay Apples Prices when they can get the same thing cheaper
else where! (Heck we can get a Sun Workstation cheaper than a Quadra, and
infact we have a number of times!!!, it ALL comes down to $$$$)
> : If Apple released this before windows 3.0 was released I'd be behind
them,
> : they missed the boat. So why is Apple continued development. Will it
> : support the P5 to its fullest capabilities? Run faster than Windows?
It
> : must do something significantly better than Windows and OS2 to warrent
> : being released.
No the continued develeopment is because there is becomming less and less
profit in Hardware, So the Next Step (no pun intended...well sort of), is
to make the money in software (look at Microsoft if you think it can't
happen!), after all you can sell multiple pieces of software to ONE
hardware platform.
As you also said Windows is a nightmare for programmers, so will the
temptation to sell system 7 to a couple of MILLION dos users be too much
for Apple! (50 million copies @ $100 is SERIOUS money!).
--
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: Sir@office.acme.gen.nz :
: :
: Be thankfull that we dont get all the government we pay for! :
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From: jchen@wind.bellcore.com (Jason Chen)
Subject: Re: Glutamate
Nntp-Posting-Host: wind.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore
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In article <1qrsr6$d59@access.digex.net> kfl@access.digex.com (Keith F. Lynch) writes:
>In article <lso15qINNkpr@news.bbn.com> sher@bbn.com (Lawrence D. Sher) writes:
>> From the N.E.J.Med. editorial: "The dicarboxylic amino acid glutamate
>> is not only an essential amino acid ...
>
>Glutamate is not an essential amino acid. People can survive quite well
>without ever eating any.
There is no contradiction here. It is essential in the sense that your
body needs it. It is non-essential in the sense that your body can
produce enough of it without supplement.
Jason Chen
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From: arf@genesis.MCS.COM (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: Re: The U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum: A Costly and Dangerous Mistake
Organization: MCSNet Contributor, Chicago, IL
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In article <C5ut1s.3xA@bony1.bony.com> jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) writes:
>through private contributions on Federal land". Your hate-mongering
>article is devoid of current and historical fact, intellectual content
>and social value. Down the toilet it goes.....
>
And we all know what an unbiased source the NYT is when it comes to things
concerning Israel.
Neither the Times nor the trained seals who have responded thus far seem to
recognize the statement that these "private funds" were all tax exmpt. In
otherwords, American taxpayers put up at least 30% of the money. And
finalyy, how does "Federal land" mitigate the offensiveness of this alien
monument dedicated to perpetuating pitty and the continual flow of tax money
to a foreign entity?
That "Federal land" and tax money could have been used to commerate
Americans or better yet, to house homeless Americans.
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From: andreasa@dhhalden.no (ANDREAS ARFF)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup Split
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Nntp-Posting-Host: pc137
Organization: Ostfold College
In article <NERONE.93Apr20085951@sylvester.cc.utexas.edu> nerone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael Nerone) writes:
>From: nerone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael Nerone)
>Subject: Re: Newsgroup Split
>Date: 20 Apr 93 08:59:51
>In article <1quvdoINN3e7@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>, tdawson@engin.umich.edu (Chris Herringshaw) writes:
>
> CH> Concerning the proposed newsgroup split, I personally am not in
> CH> favor of doing this. I learn an awful lot about all aspects of
> CH> graphics by reading this group, from code to hardware to
> CH> algorithms. I just think making 5 different groups out of this
> CH> is a wate, and will only result in a few posts a week per group.
> CH> I kind of like the convenience of having one big forum for
> CH> discussing all aspects of graphics. Anyone else feel this way?
> CH> Just curious.
>
>I must agree. There is a dizzying number of c.s.amiga.* newsgroups
>already. In addition, there are very few issues which fall cleanly
>into one of these categories.
>
>Also, it is readily observable that the current spectrum of amiga
>groups is already plagued with mega-crossposting; thus the group-split
>would not, in all likelihood, bring about a more structured
>environment.
>
>--
> /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\
> / Michael Nerone \"I shall do so with my customary lack of tact; and\
> / Internet Address: \since you have asked for this, you will be obliged\
>/nerone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu\to pardon it."-Sagredo, fictional char of Galileo.\
Maybe I should point out that we are not talking about c.s.amiga.*.
Only comp.graphics.
Arff
"Also for the not religous confessor, there is a mystery of higher values,
who's birth mankind - to the last - builds upon. They are indisputible. And
often disregarded. Seldom you hear them beeing prized, as seldom as you hear
a seeing man prizeing what he sees." Per Lagerkvist, The Fist
(Free translation from Swedish)
--Andreas Arff andreasa@dhhalden.no--
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From: wquinnan@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Malcusco)
Subject: Re: The arrogance of Christians
Organization: University of California, San Diego
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In article <Apr.10.05.32.15.1993.14385@athos.rutgers.edu> dleonar@andy.bgsu.edu (Pixie) writes:
>In article <Apr.7.01.55.50.1993.22771@athos.rutgers.edu>,
>
> Pardon me, a humble atheist, but exactly what is the difference
>between holding a revealed truth with blind faith as its basis (i.e.
>regardless of any evidence that you may find to the contrary) as an
>absolute truth, fully expecting people to believe you and arrogance?
> They sound like one and the same to me.
> Pixie
>
>
> p.s. If you do sincerely believe that a god exists, why do you follow
>it blindly?
Why do we follow God so blindly? Have you ever asked a
physically blind person why he or she follows a seeing eye dog?
The answer is quite simple--the dog can see, and the blind person
cannot.
I acknowledge, as a Christian, that I am blind. I see,
but I see illusions as well as reality. (Watched TV lately?)
I hear, but I hear lies as well as truth. (Listen to your
radio or read a newspaper.) Remember, all that tastes well is
not healthy. So, I rely one the one who can see, hear, and
taste everything, and knows what is real, and what is not.
That is God.
Of course, you may ask, if I cannot trust my own senses,
how do I know whether what I see and hear about God is truth or
a lie. That is why we need faith to be saved. We must force
ourselves to believe that God knows the truth, and loves us
enough to share it with us, even when it defies what we think
we know. Why would He have created us if He did not love us
enough to help us through this world?
I also do trust my experiences to some extent. When
I do things that defy the seeming logic of my experience,
because it is what my Father commands me to do, and I see
the results in the long term, I find that He has led me
in the proper direction, even though it did not feel right
at the time. This is where our works as Christians are
important: As exercises of the body make the body strong,
excercises of faith make the faith strong.
As for you, no one can "convert" you. You must
choose to follow God of your own will, if you are ever to
follow Him. All we as Christians wish to do is share with
you the love we have received from God. If you reject that,
we have to accept your decision, although we always keep
the offer open to you. If you really want to find out
why we believe what we believe, I can only suggest you try
praying for faith, reading the Bible, and asking Christians
about their experiences personally. Then you may grow to
understand why we believe what we do, in defiance of the
logic of this world.
May the Lord bring peace to you,
Malcusco
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From: francesca_M._Benson@fourd.com
Subject: Serdar
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
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What an anal retentive you are wimp.
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From: bill_paxton@fourd.com
Subject: Ajerk
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You a good case for rights to abortion.
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Organization: University of Maine System
From: <IO21087@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Subject: Grateful Dead?
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Being a baseball fan and a fan of the above mentioned band I was
wondering if anyone could clue me in on whether the Dead (or members
of) sang the national anthem at todays Giant opener?
I would imagine that it is a bit too early for anyone to know, but
an answer would be greatly appreciated.
Curious,
Robert
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156 PARK ST. C5 BLACK BEARS
ORONO, ME 04473 1993 NCAA CHAMPS
(207)866-7342 42-1-2
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From: syck5280@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Steven B Syck)
Subject: WI and IL firearms law Questions
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
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A couple of questions for you firearms law experts out there:
Question #1
According to the NRA/ILA state firearms lawbook, in Wisconsin it is
'unlawful for any person except a peace officer to go armed* with a
"concealed and dangerous weapon." There is no statutory provision for
obtaining a lixense or permit to carry a concealed weapon.'
* Jury instructions indicate that 'to go armed' one must have a firearm
on one's person or within his immediate control and available for use.
Does this mean that open carry is allowed? If so, just how 'open' does it
have to be? Would an in the pants holster be considered concealing? What
if one had their jacket on and it partially covered the weapon? Also,
is there any way to be allowed to carry concealed, or is it just not allowed,
period?
Question #2
As I understand it, in Evanston, IL, they have a ordinance banning handguns.
Is there any way to get around this provision? What would the penalty if
you were found out be? What if you used said handgun in a defensive shooting
in your apartment there? How would the city law apply to your impending
trial for the shooting?
Also, what is IL state law concerning short barreled weapons? Short barreled
shotgun is what I would be interested in if a handgun were not available,
either that or a shortened 9mm carbine (ie Colt, Marlin).
One more thing, what is the chance of getting a CCW permit in IL without being
rich or famous or related to the mayor?
Please send replies via E-Mail, as things seem to be piling up around t.p.g
a little faster than I can handle. Thanks again
------- Steve Syck syck5280@miller.cs.uwm.edu --------
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From: ohayon@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP (Tsiel Ohayon)
Subject: Re: The U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum: A Costly and Dangerous Mistake
Organization: James Capel Pacific Limited, Tokyo Japan
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In article <C5ut1s.3xA@bony1.bony.com> jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) writes:
In article <1r3n8d$4m5@techbook.techbook.com> Dan Gannon writes:
[DG] THE U.S. HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL MUSEUM: A COSTLY AND DANGEROUS MISTAKE
[DG] by Theodore J. O'Keefe
[DG] HARD BY THE WASHINGTON MONUMENT, within clear view of the Jefferson
[DG] Memorial, an easy stroll down the Mall to the majestic Lincoln Memorial,
[DG] has arisen, on some of the most hallowed territory of the United States of
[DG] America, a costly and dangerous mistake. On ground where no monument yet
[DG] marks countless sacrifices and unheralded achievements of Americans of all
[DG] races and creeds in the building and defense of this nation, sits today a
[DG] massive and costly edifice, devoted above all to a contentious and false
[DG] version of the ordeal in Europe during World War II, of non-American
[DG] members of a minority, sectarian group. Now, in the deceptive guise of
[DG] tolerance, the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum begins a propaganda
[DG] campaign, financed through the unwitting largess of the American taxpayer,
[DG] in the interests of Israel and its adherents in America.
[JAKE] After reading the first paragraph, a quick scan confirmed my first
[JAKE] impression: this is a bunch of revisionist and anti-semitic hogwash.
Jake, I'm really disappointed in you. It took you a whole paragraph
to see that it was "bunch of revisionist and anti-semitic hogwash". :-)
The article title "THE U.S. HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL MUSEUM: A COSTLY AND
DANGEROUS MISTAKE" should have been enough! :-)
Tsiel
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From: dgraham@bmers30.bnr.ca (Douglas Graham)
Subject: Re: Jews can't hide from keith@cco.
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
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In article <1pqdor$9s2@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
>In article <1993Apr3.071823.13253@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, dgraham@bmers30.bnr.ca (Douglas Graham) writes:
>The poster casually trashed two thousand years of Jewish history, and
>Ken replied that there had previously been people like him in Germany.
I think the problem here is that I pretty much ignored the part
about the Jews sightseeing for 2000 years, thinking instead that
the important part of what the original poster said was the bit
about killing Palestinians. In retrospect, I can see how the
sightseeing thing would be offensive to many. I originally saw
it just as poetic license, but it's understandable that others
might see it differently. I still think that Ken came on a bit
strong though. I also think that your advice to Masud Khan:
#Before you argue with someone like Mr Arromdee, it's a good idea to
#do a little homework, or at least think.
was unnecessary.
>That's right. There have been. There have also been people who
>were formally Nazis. But the Nazi party would have gone nowhere
>without the active and tacit support of the ordinary man in the
>street who behaved as though casual anti-semitism was perfectly
>acceptable.
>
>Now what exactly don't you understand about what I wrote, and why
>don't you see what it has to do with the matter at hand?
Throughout all your articles in this thread there is the tacit
assumption that the original poster was exhibiting casual
anti-semitism. If I agreed with that, then maybe your speech
on why this is bad might have been relevant. But I think you're
reading a lot into one flip sentence. While probably not
true in this case, too often the charge of anti-semitism gets
thrown around in order to stifle legitimate criticism of the
state of Israel.
Anyway, I'd rather be somewhere else, so I'm outta this thread.
--
Doug Graham dgraham@bnr.ca My opinions are my own.
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From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: Gun Control (was Re: We're Mad as Hell at the TV News)
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Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
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In article <C4tr3M.Eqw@magpie.linknet.com> manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve Manes) writes:
>On the other hand, we can draw lessons from neighbors who are more
>culturally similar, namely the Canadians...
I don't think such a Canada is any more "culturally similar" to
the United States than England. In terms of laws regarding individual
rights, restrictions on police searches, etc... (all closely
related to crime) Canadian laws parallel England's and differ
greatly from those of the United States.
>...In fact, an exhaustive,
>seven-year study has already been done of the respective crime rates
>of Vancouver, British Columbia and Seattle, Washington... cities
>with roughly the same population, urban economy, geography
>and crime but with decidedly different approaches to gun control.
Actually, they do not have "roughly the same... urban economy",
and extremely different ethnic composition.
>Over the seven-year study, 388 homicides occurred in Seattle
>(11.3 per 100,000) vs. 204 homicides in Vancouver (6.9 per 100,000).
>After adjustment for differences in age and sex among the populations,
>the relative risk of being a victim of homicide in Seattle, as
>compared to Vancouver, was found to be 1.63.
However, if you account for economic and ethnic differences,
the difference disappears completely: Seattle's minorities are
predominatly poor, while Vancouver's are middle or upper class.
The rates for whites in both cities were found to be identicle,
while the rate for poor, Seattle minorities was almost three
times as great as for the well-to-do minorities of Vancouver.
The pattern seems to be one of poverty and race relations, not
one of gun control.
>The authors of the report also investigated "legally justifiable"
>homicides (self-defense). Only 32 such homicides occurred during
>the seven-year study, 11 of which were committed by police. Only
>21 cases of civilians acting in self-defense occurrred...
That is a gross distortion: "Self-defense" does not mean killing
the attacker. There were 21 cases of civilians killing their
attacker in self-defence. But such cases represent less that
0.5% of the crimes prevented by armed self-defence; for every
case you cite, there were over 200 other cases of self-defence
where the crime was prevented but the attacker was not killed.
(0.5%, by the way, is the most conservative possible figure,
based on the National Crime Survey's estimate of 80,000
crimes prevented by armed self-defence each year. Most other
studies on the subject put the figure at 500,000 to 600,000.
Those figures would imply less than 0.08% of sucessful self-defences
involve killing the attacker.)
So, more correctly, there over 4000 (possibly as many as 25,000)
cases of civilians acting in self-defence, only 21 of which resulted
in the death of the attacker. This is a significant factor, in
comparison to the 592 homicides. If memory serves, homicides
make up approximately 1% of the violent crimes the study
considered, so the fair comparison would be 40 - 250 homicides
prevented and 592 homicides. Clearly, the study can not be
close to accurate, since it ignored these cases of self-defence.
Frank Crary
CU Boulder
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From: wbg@festival.ed.ac.uk (W Geake)
Subject: EC BHP limit vetoed
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According to BBC Radio this morning, UK, Denmark, Portugal & a few
others have vetoed a proposal to limit EC-sold bikes to 100 BHP. The
reason is that such a limit is not supported by accident statistics - a
rare example of governmental wisdom. The limit has a five year
moratorium on it, and "specialist" manufacturers will be exempt anyway.
Any suspicion that this is a crafty trick to restrict that end of the
market in Europe to Triumph, Norton (who? :-)), BMW, Cagiva & Ducati is
the sort of dangerous rubbish which stalls GATT talks.
You heard it here first.
Bill @ Univ Edinburgh, replete with 12 hp and a healthy blue exhaust.
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From: billc@col.hp.com (Bill Claussen)
Subject: RE: alt.psychoactives
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
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FYI...I just posted this on alt.psychoactives as a response to
what the group is for......
A note to the users of alt.psychoactives....
This group was originally a takeoff from sci.med. The reason for
the formation of this group was to discuss prescription psychoactive
drugs....such as antidepressents(tri-cyclics, Prozac, Lithium,etc),
antipsychotics(Melleral(sp?), etc), OCD drugs(Anafranil, etc), and
so on and so forth. It didn't take long for this group to degenerate
into a psudo alt.drugs atmosphere. That's to bad, for most of the
serious folks that wanted to start this group in the first place have
left and gone back to sci.med, where you have to cypher through
hundreds of unrelated articles to find psychoactive data.
It was also to discuss real-life experiences and side effects of
the above mentioned.
Oh well, I had unsubscribed to this group for some time, and I decided
to check it today to see if anything had changed....nope....same old
nine or ten crap articles that this group was never intended for.
I think it is very hard to have a meaningfull group without it
being moderated...too bad.
Oh well, obviously, no one really cares.
Bill Claussen
Would anyone be interested in starting a similar moderated group?
Bill Claussen
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From: ccastco@prism.gatech.EDU (Constantinos Malamas)
Subject: Re: ?? DOS font size in windows??
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
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In article <1993Apr18.024128.9119@ncsu.edu> ssa@unity.ncsu.edu (S. Alavi) writes:
> (normal 8514/A font, not small). In the 386 enhanced mode
> the DOS window font is too small for my 14" monitor. Is there a
> way to spacify the font size for the DOS window? You'll have to
> excuse me if there is a trivial answer, since I am fairly new to
> MS Windows world.
> Thanks.
> ====== S. Alavi [ssa@unity.ncsu.edu] (919)467-7909 (H) ========
First of all, without wanting to sound nagging and bossy, yes it is
a trivial answer and that's perfectly fine ( otherwise how is one supposed
to move up to the complicated and challenging questions, we net readers so
much enjoy :) ?), and the massive crossposting of your article was not
justified...
Please refer to appropriate newsgroups next time (by the way c.o.msw.misc is
OK :) ). Now as far as your problem is concerned: try playing around with
the settings in the 'Fonts..." dialog box under the window control menu (that
little square at the top left corner of the window..).
--
Costas Malamas ____________________________________________________________
Georgia Institute of Technology
OIT UA -- Opinions expressed are not necessarily OIT's...
Internet: ccastco@prism.gatech.edu
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From: nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: Portable Small Ground Station?dir
Article-I.D.: aurora.1993Apr5.185700.1
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
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In article <C4zGAM.2nJ@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
> In article <1993Apr2.214705.1@aurora.alaska.edu> nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu writes:
>>How difficult would it be to set up your own ground station?
>
> Ground station for *what*? At one extreme, some of the amateur-radio
> satellites have sometimes been reachable with hand-held radios. At the
> other, nothing you can do in your back yard will let you listen in on
> Galileo. Please be more specific.
> --
> All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
> - Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
SPECIFIC:
Basically to be able to do the things the big dadies can do.. Monitor, and
control if need be the Shuttle...
Such as the one in Australia and such....
==
Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
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From: stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber)
Subject: Re: How difficult is it to get Penguin tickets?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
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In article <1993Apr18.201811.28965@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dmoney@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dean R Money) writes:
> The subject line says it all. Is it terribly difficult to get tickets
> to Penguins games, especially now that they are in the playoffs? Would
> it be easy to find scalpers outside of the Igloo selling tickets?
>
> Dean Money
> dmoney@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Here is my traditional experience with tickets, playoffs and otherwise,
at the Civic Arena.
Scalping is illegal but nonetheless present outside the Arena. Best
strategy, given that you don't mind missing the Anthem (which is OK if B.E.
Taylor decides to come back ever again :) ) is to wait until 7:40 or 7:45,
when the game is rolling; the scalpers are at this point desperate to sell
and will reduce to near or at face value to get rid of their tickets.
Playoffs are a little different in that good seats will go early on;
what's left at 7:45 may be nosebleed material (D, E sections).
Others can add on their opinions as well.
Kevin L. Stamber
Purdue University
PENGUINS 6 DEVILS 3 -- Pens lead series 1 game to none
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From: rhc52134@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard)
Subject: Re: does dos6 defragment??
Article-I.D.: news.C51H9M.46p
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 12
Geoffrey S. Elbo writes:
>Yes, and it is the fastest defrag I've ever watched. It did a 170MB
>hard disk in 20 minutes.
I found the MS defrag looks very much like Norton Speedisk.
Is it just a strip-down version of the later?
I have both Norton Speedisk and Backup, so I was wondering
if I need to install MS Backup?
Richard
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From: servis@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Brian K Servis)
Subject: Re: How Redirect PRINT MANAGER To FILE?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
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u7911093@cc.nctu.edu.tw ("By SWH ) writes:
>Who can tell me which program (PD or ShareWare) can redirect windows 3.1's
>output of printer manager to file?
> I want to capture HP Laser Jet III's print output.
> Though PostScript can setup print to file,but HP can't.
> I use DOS's redirect program,but they can't work in windows.
> Thankx for any help...
>--
> Internet Address: u7911093@cc.nctu.edu.tw
> English Name: Erik Wang
> Chinese Name: Wang Jyh-Shyang
> National Chiao-Tung University,Taiwan,R.O.C.
Try setting up another HPIII printer but when choosing what port to connect it
to choose FILE instead of like :LPT1. This will prompt you for a file name
everytime you print with that "HPIII on FILE" printer. Good Luck.
Brian Servis
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|| What I say may not be what I || ||
|| think. What I say may not be || "The pedestrian had no idea which ||
|| what Purdue thinks. || way to go, so I ran him over." ||
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From: cmk@athena.mit.edu (Charles M Kozierok)
Subject: Re: Yankees win home opener
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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Distribution: usa
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In article <93105.124117RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> writes:
} In article <1993Apr14.175545.3528@alleg.edu>, millits@yankee.org (Sam
} Millitello) says:
}
} i'm telling you, sam, three l's. call up mom and ask.
}
} bob vesterman.
}
yeah, and in case even that isn't enough to prompt boy genius
"Sam" to pick up a paper and see how "his" name is spelled,
here's another hint: the single "L" comes between the two "I"s...
-*-
charles
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From: jgreen@trumpet.calpoly.edu (James Thomas Green)
Subject: Proton/Centaur?
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Lines: 9
Has anyone looked into the possiblity of a Proton/Centaur combo?
What would be the benefits and problems with such a combo (other
than the obvious instability in the XSSR now)?
/~~~(-: James T. Green :-)~~~~(-: jgreen@oboe.calpoly.edu :-)~~~\
| "I know you believe you understand what it is that you |
| think I said. But I am not sure that you realize that |
| what I said is not what I meant." |
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From: shapiro-david@yale.edu (David Shapiro)
Subject: Re: TIGERS
Organization: What, me organized?
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In-reply-to: Ryan Kearns's message of Wed, 14 Apr 1993 10:09:21 EDT
Woof woof!
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David Shapiro | "People can call it a monkey, but I felt like
shapiro-david@yale.edu | I had a piano on my back all winter long....
shapiro@minerva.cis.yale.edu | The piano is off my back. Maybe a trombone
| will be next." -- Stan Belinda
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From: bryan@src.sbs.utah.edu
Subject: Okidata 2410 printer driver
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
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I have an Okidata 2410 printer for which I would like to have a printer driver.
Has anyone seen such a thing? There is not one on the Microsoft BBS.
I can print to it from Windows but I have no fonts available and with
Paradox for Windows I can't print labels on it unless there is a proper printer
defined.
Thanks,
Bryan K. Ward
Survey Research Center
University of Utah
i-mail: bryan@src.sbs.utah.edu
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From: Deon.Strydom@f7.n7104.z5.fidonet.org (Deon Strydom)
Subject: Re: Prophetic Warning to New York City
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--> Note:
Reply to a message in soc.religion.christian.
EVENSON THOMAS RANDALL wrote in a message to All:
> Which brings me around to asking an open question. Is the
> Bible a closed book of Scripture? Is it okay for us to go
> around saying "God told me this" and "Jesus told me that"?
> Also interesting to note is that some so called prophecies
> are nothing new but rather an inspired translation of
> scripture. Is it right to call that prophecy? Misleading?
Hi, You might want to read Charismatic Chaos by John MacArthur. In it
he discussed exactly this queation, amongst others. In my own words,
VERY simplified, his position is basically that one must decide, what
is the most important - experience or Scripture? People tend to say
Scripture, without living according to that. Their own
feeling/prophecy/etc tends to be put across without testing in the
light of Scripture.
There's a lot more than this, really worthwhile to read whether you're
Charismatic or not.
Groetnis (=cheers)
Deon
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From: lmh@juliet.caltech.edu (Henling, Lawrence M.)
Subject: Re: catholic church poland
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Lines: 10
In article <Apr.20.03.01.44.1993.3772@geneva.rutgers.edu>, s0612596@let.rug.nl (M.M. Zwart) writes...
>I'm writing a paper on the role of the catholic church in Poland after 1989.
>church concerning the abortion-law, religious education at schools,
There was an article on clari.news.religion in the last few days about a
Polish tribunal decision. It said that crucifixes and religious classes in
public schools were okay; and that children who did not want to take religion
class could not be forced to take an ethics class as a substitute.
larry henling lmh@shakes.caltech.edu
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From: aris@psssun (Aris Gerakis)
Subject: Pixel disappear on Powerbook 140 screen
Organization: Michigan State University
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Keywords: Powerbook, 140, pixel, screen
Some pixels on my PB 140 display disappear intermittently. They are not in
a particular place but random. If anybody has suggestions I would appreciate
e-mailings. Thanks.
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From: d2cheng@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Dominic Cheng)
Subject: Centris 610 Impression
Organization: University of Waterloo
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I have been playing with my Centris 610 for almost a week now. I must say
this machine is really fast! The hardware turn-on feature is annoying, but
I got PowerKey from Sophisicated Circuits and it works like a charm.
However, I still have a few complaints:
- when I restart the machine every time, the screen image (the desktop
pattern) jerks up and down for a few times.
- the Quantum 170 drive is noisy
Overall, I highly recommend it: it is fast, affordable and looks great!
--
Dominic Cheng (d2cheng@descartes.uwaterloo.ca)
Computer Science, University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
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From: rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie)
Subject: Re: White House Public Encryption Management Fact Sheet
Organization: Center For High Perf. Computing of WPI; Marlboro Ma
Distribution: na
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>security of the key-escrow system. In making this decision, I do
>not intend to prevent the private sector from developing, or the
>government from approving, other microcircuits or algorithms that
>are equally effective in assuring both privacy and a secure key-
>escrow system.
Yeah, but does he intend to prevent the private sector from
developing other applications that are equally effective in
assuring privacy, but do not have a key escrow system?
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From: gtoal@gtoal.com (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Do we need the clipper for cheap security?
Lines: 21
: From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger)
: Indeed, were it not for the government doing everything possible to
: stop them, Qualcomm would have designed strong encryption right in to
: the CDMA cellular phone system they are pioneering. Were it not for
: the NSA and company, cheap encryption systems would be everywhere. As
: it is, they try every trick in the book to stop it. Had it not been
: for them, I'm sure cheap secure phones would be out right now.
In the UK, it's impossible to get approval to attach any crypto device
to the phone network. (Anything that plugs in to our BT phone sockets
must be approved - for some reason crypto devices just never are...)
I was wondering some time ago how big a market there was for good old-
fashion acoustic coupler technology to build a secure phone :-) ... is
it possible to mask out all the real voice well enough so that none of
it strays into the mouthpiece? Perhaps a well-sealed coupler attachment
that was as well blocked as possible, then a white noise generator on
the outside to muffle any real speech?
G
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From: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev)
Subject: Re: WH proposal from Police point of view
Reply-To: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de
Organization: Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg
Lines: 30
strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
> dwight tuinstra posts a very interesting message in which he comments on the
> effects of the Clipper chip on state and local police. Actually, reading
> between the lines, it could be a very good thing for civil liberties in one
> respect, since it will at least prevent cowboy cops and cowboy state and
> local agancies from reading your traffic if they tap it illegally.
Instead of reading between the lines, try to think a little bit. OK,
if that's way too difficult to you, here are some hints.
Indeed, the new proposal imposes some additional burocratic burden on
the local police, if they badly want to tape the magic cookie recipie
that your mom is telling you on the phone. So, guess what they will
do? Propose that the new technology is removed? Or implement some
"facilitations"? Of course, you won't want to wait until they get the
approval from two different agencies to decrypt the conversation
between two child molesters, because meanwhile those two child
molesters might be conspiring about molesting your child, right? So,
there should be some way for them to get access to those keys
-quickly-, right? Like, they could have a copy of the database, and
worry about a warrant later...
Regards,
Vesselin
--
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Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN
< PGP 2.2 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C
e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
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From: turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin)
Subject: Re: Placebo effects
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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Summary: Yes, researcher bias is a great problem.
-*-----
In article <735157066.AA00449@calcom.socal.com> Daniel.Prince@f129.n102.z1.calcom.socal.com (Daniel Prince) writes:
> Is there an effect where the doctor believes so strongly in a
> medicine that he/she sees improvement where the is none or sees
> more improvement than there is? If so, what is this effect
> called? Is there a reverse of the above effect where the doctor
> doesn't believe in a medicine and then sees less improvement than
> there is? What would this effect be called? Have these effects
> ever been studied? How common are these effects? Thank you in
> advance for all replies.
These effects are a very real concern in conducting studies of new
treatments. Researchers try to limit this kind of effect by
performing studies that are "blind" in various ways. Some of these
are:
o The subjects of the study do not know whether they receive a
placebo or the test treatment, i.e., whether they are in the
control group or the test group.
o Those administering the treatment do not know which subjects
receive a placebo or the test treatment.
o Those evaluating individual results do not know which subjects
receive a placebo or the test treatment.
Obviously, at the point at which the data is analyzed, one has to
differentiate the test group from the control group. But the analysis
is quasi-public: the researcher describes it and presents the data on
which it is based so that others can verify it.
It is worth noting that in biological studies where the subjects are
animals, such as mice, there were many cases of skewed results because
those who performed the study did not "blind" themselves. It is not
considered so important to make mice more ignorant than they already
are, though it is important that in all respects except the one tested,
the control and test groups are treated alike.
Russell
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From: I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau)
Subject: Re: Gospel Dating
Organization: Technical University Braunschweig, Germany
Lines: 93
In article <65974@mimsy.umd.edu>
mangoe@cs.umd.edu (Charley Wingate) writes:
>>Well, John has a quite different, not necessarily more elaborated theology.
>>There is some evidence that he must have known Luke, and that the content
>>of Q was known to him, but not in a 'canonized' form.
>
>This is a new argument to me. Could you elaborate a little?
>
The argument goes as follows: Q-oid quotes appear in John, but not in
the almost codified way they were in Matthew or Luke. However, they are
considered to be similar enough to point to knowledge of Q as such, and
not an entirely different source.
>>Assuming that he knew Luke would obviously put him after Luke, and would
>>give evidence for the latter assumption.
>
>I don't think this follows. If you take the most traditional attributions,
>then Luke might have known John, but John is an elder figure in either case.
>We're talking spans of time here which are well within the range of
>lifetimes.
We are talking date of texts here, not the age of the authors. The usual
explanation for the time order of Mark, Matthew and Luke does not consider
their respective ages. It says Matthew has read the text of Mark, and Luke
that of Matthew (and probably that of Mark).
As it is assumed that John knew the content of Luke's text. The evidence
for that is not overwhelming, admittedly.
>>>(1) Earlier manuscripts of John have been discovered.
>
>>Interesting, where and which? How are they dated? How old are they?
>
>Unfortunately, I haven't got the info at hand. It was (I think) in the late
>'70s or early '80s, and it was possibly as old as CE 200.
>
When they are from about 200, why do they shed doubt on the order on
putting John after the rest of the three?
>>I don't see your point, it is exactly what James Felder said. They had no
>>first hand knowledge of the events, and it obvious that at least two of them
>>used older texts as the base of their account. And even the association of
>>Luke to Paul or Mark to Peter are not generally accepted.
>
>Well, a genuine letter of Peter would be close enough, wouldn't it?
>
Sure, an original together with Id card of sender and receiver would be
fine. So what's that supposed to say? Am I missing something?
>And I don't think a "one step removed" source is that bad. If Luke and Mark
>and Matthew learned their stories directly from diciples, then I really
>cannot believe in the sort of "big transformation from Jesus to gospel" that
>some people posit. In news reports, one generally gets no better
>information than this.
>
>And if John IS a diciple, then there's nothing more to be said.
>
That John was a disciple is not generally accepted. The style and language
together with the theology are usually used as counterargument.
The argument that John was a disciple relies on the claim in the gospel
of John itself. Is there any other evidence for it?
One step and one generation removed is bad even in our times. Compare that
to reports of similar events in our century in almost illiterate societies.
Not even to speak off that believers are not necessarily the best sources.
>>It is also obvious that Mark has been edited. How old are the oldest
>>manuscripts? To my knowledge (which can be antiquated) the oldest is
>>quite after any of these estimates, and it is not even complete.
>
>The only clear "editing" is problem of the ending, and it's basically a
>hopeless mess. The oldest versions give a strong sense of incompleteness,
>to the point where the shortest versions seem to break off in midsentence.
>The most obvious solution is that at some point part of the text was lost.
>The material from verse 9 on is pretty clearly later and seems to represent
>a synopsys of the end of Luke.
>
In other words, one does not know what the original of Mark did look like
and arguments based on Mark are pretty weak.
But how is that connected to a redating of John?
Benedikt
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From: jiml@strauss.FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM (Jim L)
Subject: Need Sharp 6220, T2000 parts, information
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR Microelectronics Products Division (an AT&T Company)
Lines: 23
I'm looking for a Sharp 6220 or TI Travelmate 2000 for parts. Mine has
a bad RAM chip on the motherboard and I want to see what I can get for
parts before sending it off to Sharp for repairs. If you have one,
drop me a line.
Also, I'm trying to set one up for a friend who needs to read his old
5 1/4 inch diskettes. Anyone have the pinout of the diskette expansion
connector on the back of the 3.5 inch floppy box?
If you respond, please include a phone number. I can't always get through
with email.
As always,
Thanks,
Jim Lewczyk
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Mailer address is buggy! Reply to: jiml@strauss.FtCollinsCO.NCR.com
James Lewczyk 1-303-223-5100 x9267
NCR-MPD Fort Collins, CO jim.lewczyk@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM
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From: gemmellj@merrimack.edu
Subject: e-mail to the hill ??
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA
Lines: 4
Now, that Clinton can get e-mail, i'm wondering if Congress is also
going on line.. If so, does anyone have the address to reach them??
I'm also looking for Bill's e-mail address.
please e-mail me, i am not a regualar reader of this newsgrouop.
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: sudden numbness in arm
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 48
In article <C5u5LG.C3G@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> molnar@Bisco.CAnet.CA (Tom Molnar) writes:
>I experienced a sudden numbness in my left arm this morning. Just after
>I completed my 4th set of deep squats. Today was my weight training
>day and I was just beginning my routine. All of a sudden at the end of
>the 4th set my arm felt like it had gone to sleep. It was cold, turned pale,
>and lost 60% of its strength. The weight I used for squats wasn't that
>heavy, I was working hard but not at 100% effort. I waited for a few
>minutes, trying to shake the arm back to life and then continued with
>chest exercises (flyes) with lighter dumbells than I normally use. But
>I dropped the left dumbell during the first set, and experienced continued
>arm weakness into the second. So I quit training and decided not to do my
>usual hour on the ski machine either. I'll take it easy for the rest of
>the day.
>
>My arm is *still* somewhat numb and significantly weaker than normal --
>my hand still tingles a bit down to the thumb. Color has returned to normal
>and it is no longer cold.
>
>Horrid thoughts of chunks of plaque blocking a major artery course through
>my brain. I'm 34, vegetarian, and pretty fit from my daily exercise
>regimen. So that can't be it. Could a pinched nerve from the bar
>cause these symptoms (I hope)?
It likely has nothing to do with "chunks of plaque" but it sounds like
you may have a neurovascular compromise to your arm and you need medical
attention *before* doing any more weight lifting.
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From: I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau)
Subject: Re: Who Says the Apostles Were Tortured?
Organization: Technical University Braunschweig, Germany
Lines: 17
In article <1qiu97INNpq6@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
ingles@engin.umich.edu (Ray Ingles) writes:
>
> As evidence for the Resurrection, it is often claimed that the Disciples
>were tortured to death for their beliefs and still did not renounce
>their claim that Jesus had come back from the dead.
> Now, I skimmed Acts and such, and I found a reference to this happening
>to Stephen, but no others. Where does this apparently very widely held
>belief come from? Is there any evidence outside the Bible? Is there any
>evidence *in* the Bible? I sure haven't found any...
>
Early authors and legends. The most important sources can be found in the
Martyriologia of the Catholic Church. Makes the Grimms look like exact
science.
Benedikt
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From: kennejs@a.cs.okstate.edu (KENNEDY JAMES SCOT)
Subject: Drug Use Up At Younger Age
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Keywords: youths drugs LSD inhalants
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The article that follows was taken from the Wednesday, April 14,
1993 issue of USA Today ("Drug Use Up At Younger Age" by Mike
Snider, p. 1A).
Drug use is on the rise among kids as young as eighth graders -
usually 13 - and they're using more LSD and inhalants like glue
and air fresheners, says a new survey.
The annual National High School Senior Survey on Drug Abuse finds
"statistically significant increases" in eighth-graders' use of
many drugs, including marijuana, cocaine, crack, LSD and inhalants.
"We may be in danger of losing some ... hard-won ground (in reducing
drug use) as a new, more naive generation of youngsters enters
adolescence," says Lloyd Johnston, University of Michigan, chief
researcher on the study sponsored by the Department of Health and
Human Services.
But drug use among high school seniors is continuing a decade-long
decline.
The study of 50,000 students shows the percentage who tried the
following in the 30 days before they were polled:
* 8th-graders - alcohol 26%; cigarettes 16%; marijuana 4%;
cocaine 0.7%.
* 10th-graders - alcohol 40%; cigarettes 22%; marijuana 8%;
cocaine 0.7%.
* 12th-graders - alcohol 51%; cigarettes 28%; marijuana 12%;
cocaine 1.3%.
Among 12th-graders, use of marijuana, cocaine and inhalants
declined over the year before. Not so with LSD.
* 2% of eighth-graders have tried LSD in the last year, up 24%
over 1991.
* Use of LSD among seniors is at its highest point since 1982; 6%
tried it in the last year.
Reducing drug use among students "requires a different kind of
strategy" that Health Secretary Donna Shalala says will be part
of an overall illness prevention plan.
The survey shows drugs are easier to get and fewer eighth-graders
disapprove of them.
"It's scary," Shalala says. "Dealers are focusing on younger, more
vulnerable kids."
Scott Kennedy, Brewer and Patriot
Before: "David Koresh is a cheap thug who interprets
the Bible through the barrel of a gun..." --ATF spokesman
After: "[The ATF] is a cheap thug who interprets
[the Constitution] through the barrel of a gun..." --Me
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From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!!
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology
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In article <1993Apr21.053035.29591@mcs.kent.edu>, mhamilto@Nimitz.mcs.kent.edu (The Lawnmowerman) writes:
> In article <1r1j1l$4t@transfer.stratus.com>, cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
>> In article <1993Apr20.143255.12711@mcs.kent.edu>, mhamilto@Nimitz.mcs.kent.edu (The Lawnmowerman) writes:
>>
>> Oh, then, I guess that shooting THOSE kind of babies is all right.
>>
>> You sick bastard.
>> --
>>
>> cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company,
>> OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
>>
>
> Why thanks for your reply to my post. By the way, I never, never ever said
> that it was right to shoot "THOSE kind" of babies. However it was the Branch
> Davidian people in there that insisted on staying there with their "savior"
> (yeah right budy boy) because he had brain-washed them into believing that
> what ever he says is the truth, even if means that they are to give up their
> lives for <<<<HIS>>>> cause. Therefore it is Davids fault and not the ATF's
> who gave them 50 to 51 days to get out, this was 50 days to many for me and
For goodness sake if they had fired a cruise missile at the compound more
people would have come out alive. It was obvious to anyone with the remotest
contact with reality that such an outcome was likely (not just possible)
however the fire started. As, Mr Lawnmower, you seem to have already entered
your own little virtual reality I guess you can't be expected to understand
things in the real universe.
--
Alan Greig Janet: A.Greig@uk.ac.dct
Dundee Institute of Technology Internet: A.Greig@dct.ac.uk
Tel: (0382) 308810 (Int +44 382 308810)
** Never underestimate the power of human stupidity **
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From: dmsilev@athena.mit.edu (Daniel M Silevitch)
Subject: Re: Utility for updating Win.ini and system.ini
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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Distribution: world
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In article <1993Apr20.180234.18192@oz.plymouth.edu>, oddjob@oz.plymouth.edu (Andrew C. Stoffel) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr20.151912.18590@midway.uchicago.edu> am37@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
|>
|> >Unless I am completely misunderstanding you, try using either Notepad or
|> >sysedit.exe (found in your system subdirectory) to edit you .ini files.
|> You can add sysedit (& regedit) to a program group... they are Windows
|> programs.
|> >The sysedit.exe program is cool because it automatically opens you win.ini,
|> >system.ini, autoexec.bat and config.sys files to be edited.
|>
|> Is it possible to get it to load other *.ini files ????
|>
No. When the program is run, it loads 4 configuration files; autoexec.bat,
config.sys, win.ini, and system.ini. There is no Open entry on the File
menu. You can only edit these four files. If you need to edit some other
program's .ini file, use Notepad or some other ASCII editor.
I wonder whether Microsoft intended for sysedit to be used, or if it was
just a holdover from the testing period and they forgot to take it out. The
reason I think this is because there is absolutely no mention in the manuals
about this program, and there is no online help for it (just an About entry
under the File menu). The program looks like something that was intended for
internal use only. It's kind of a shame, though. It would have made a nice
multi-file replacement for Notepad.
Daniel Silevitch dmsilev@athena.mit.edu
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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From: dpeterik@iastate.edu (Dan Peterik)
Subject: Re: Brewer Notes
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
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In <30MAR93.02086551.0010@MUSIC.LIB.MATC.EDU> PFAN <PFAN@MUSIC.LIB.MATC.EDU> writes:
>For those of you who know who Bernie Brewer is, he's back. The
>team mascot, if you will, was given his walking papers a few years
>ago, but the fans voted him back last season and he will be perched
>in the his familiar home in the outfield and will again slide down
>into a barrel of beer when home runs are hit.
That is great to hear I just may have to take a raod trip to Milwakee this year and see that again. Last time I saw Bernie Brewer was at the age of 10 and I am now 21 thanks for this post.
>One final note, Bill Spiers is leading the Brewers with 13 RBI's in
>exhibition play. Looks like he's bouncing back nicely from back
>problems.
Good to Bill is getting better form the limited coverage we get here in Iowa
I know that this will be a great season for the BREW CREW!!
>/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>| Pete Fanning, Computer Operator | "Leadership is ACTION |
>| Office of Information Technology | ...NOT Position" |
>| Milwaukee Area Technical College | -- D. H. McGannon |
>|**********************************************************|
>| Email: pfan@music.lib.matc.edu (Internet) |
>| -or- Pete.Fanning@f71.n154.z1.fidonet.org |
>\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
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From: steve-b@access.digex.com (Steve Brinich)
Subject: S1, S2
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
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> Second question: Why!?!? Why is such a strange procedure used, and not
>a real RNG ? This turns those S1,S2 in a kind of bottleneck for system-
>security.
The only theory that makes any sense is that S1 and S2 are either the
same for all chips, or vary among very few possibilities, so that anyone
trying to break the encryption by brute force need only plow through the
possible serial numbers (2^30, about one billion), multiplied by the number
of different S1, S2 combinations.
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From: cabanrf@wkuvx1.bitnet
Subject: Re: My Belated Predictions (NL)
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY
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In article <mssC4zyo8.JsC@netcom.com>, mss@netcom.com (Mark Singer) writes:
> In article <Apr.4.19.42.08.1993.12176@pilot.njin.net> gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite) writes:
>>i've said the braves would improve by injury as well. here's how.
>>
>>javier lopez is a better catcher than greg olson.
>>ryan klasko is a better firstbaseman than bream.
>> chipper jones is a better shortstop than anyone the braves
>> put out there.
>>
>>mel nieves is better than nixon/sanders.
>>
>>that's how. it FORCES them to play the young guys.
>>
>>- bob gaj
>
> I continue to be amazed at these comments. While Lopez might *some
> day* be a better catcher than Olson, I find it totally amazing for
> you to suggest that this 22 year-old with three seasons of professional
> baseball is *now* better than Olson, a five-year MLB veteran who is
> noted for his ability to call a game, and who has a better-than-average
> arm. Oh, perhaps you are talking about hitting. Well, sure, Lopez
> *might* hit better. Perhaps he *probably* will.
>
> But has there ever in the history of baseball been a 22-year-old (or
> younger) *rookie* catcher who compared favorably among all league
> catchers in terms of defense and brought a .247 bat? Wasn't it
Yes, Ivan Rodriguez, last year. Batted .260 and threw out 51% of the
baserunners. Not too shabby for a rookie from AA. 20 years old last
year.
> Sandy Alomar who was supposed to be that good in his rookie year?
> Not. Wasn't it Benito Santiago who was supposed to be that good
> in his rookie year? Not.
>
> I can continue this thread with the others mentioned, but you get
> the point. You and others seem to be so quick to dismiss the
> seasoned veterans in favor of the hot *young* rookies. Perhaps -
> just perhaps - the management team of the pennant-winning Braves
> knows something more than you do. And perhaps what they know is
> that very, very few 21- and 22-year old rookies come up to the majors
> and make an impact.
>
>
> -- The Beastmaster
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Singer
> mss@netcom.com
--
Roy F. Cabaniss......................*Wait till Tommy meets the Lord and
Western Kentucky University..........*finds out that He's wearing pinstripes.
All opinions contained herein........*Gaylord Perry (talking about Lasorda)
Are all mine own, and that's the sin.*Baseball, what a way to spend a day!!
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From: ivan@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Catalin Ivan)
Subject: IDE/ESDI coexistence
Summary: How to make IDE and ESDI controllers live together???
Keywords: HD, controller, IDE, ESDI, disks
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Lines: 57
Hello all,
You, the Net, are my last resort, or I'll just change my job :-)
This might be a FAQ (e.g. mixing controllers) but haven't seen any.
Sys: 486/33, AMI BIOS, and your run-of-the mill multi-I/O card with
serials/paral/floppies and
- IDE controller "clone" Gw2760-EX
there are no jumpers affecting the HD or ctrller :-(
- Quantum ProDrive LPS (3" 105M type 47: 755cyl, 16hds, 17spt).
Pb: I want to bring in this (2nd hand, neat price):
- Maxtor XT-B380E (~330M, <15ms, BIOS type 1, ctrller manages
the real geom: 1630cyl, 8hds, 52spt)
- Western Digital WD1007V-SE1 ESDI ctrller: no floppies.
(jumpers set IRQ 14/15, hw port addr 1F0/170,
and BIOS addr CC00/C800, and other floppy/format stuff)
Goal: have the WD ESDI as a secondary/controller and have both disks
simultaneously working. Being able to boot from the ESDI too would be
a nice bonus but is not expected.
Ultimate goal: have room for Linux et al.
Ex of scheme I have in mind: boot from IDE (HD or floppy) and mount
the ESDI as root. Not booting from ESDI, or even from HD, is acceptable.
I have tried numerous (all!!) combinations to no avail. They work alone,
or can coexist witout hang-ups but can't access the ESDI or the IDE,
depending on setup/jumpers.
Useful suggestions might be:
- How do I tell the BIOS setup about two ctrllers (I guess the 2nd HD
is expected to hang off the same ctrller as the 1st).
- Do I need some driver to make it work?
- --- " --- some new BIOS/chip for any of these cards?
- do I have to buy another controller to make them HDs happy? IDE
is cheaper; ESDI is hard to find and rather costly. I'm not
rich or I wouldnt' try to scavenge around, so soft slns are preferred.
- adapters of some sort; I can hold a soldering iron, and can change
a chip or put a jumper!
Also useful:
- BBS or Hot-line of Western Digital.
- ftp archives with relevant info.
- expert stores in Toronto, Ontario area (that would be a miracle! haven't
seen any really knowledgeable ppl in a while)
- any hints into inner workings of the system ...
- anything else that helped you in similar situations (prayers :-) )
Direct or posted replies are ok.
Many thanks,
Cat.
--
////// /// // / / / / / / / / / / /
Catalin Ivan - email: ivan@Iro.UMontreal.CA - tel:(416) 324.8704
Human-Computer INTERACTION Humain-Machine
Universite de Montreal - Informatique et Recherche Operationelle
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From: I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau)
Subject: Re: An Anecdote about Islam
Organization: Technical University Braunschweig, Germany
Lines: 74
In article <114140@bu.edu>
jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
>>>>> In cases of prostitution
>>>>>both the man and the prostitute would be punished in public, quite
>>>>>severely.
(Deletion)
>
>>No Gregg, you cannot say A is lenient and A punishes severely in public.
>>Unless, of course, it is one of the exceptions implied by "almost all
>>matters".
>
>That depends on the statistics and who is punished in public. If some
>power (for example, nothing Islamic about it) allows men to rape women
>five times before blowing the rapist's head off in public then I'd call
>that leniency, wouldn't you?
>
You have given that example. It is not lenient. End of argument.
And chopping off the hands or heads of people is not lenient either. It
rather appears that you are internalized the claims about the legal system
without checking if they suit the description.
And wasn't the argument that it takes five men to rape a woman according
to Islamic law?
>>While I don't approve of it, I think both the prostitute and the customer
>>have the right to do what they do. In other words, punishing them is a
>>violation of their rights. And to punish them severely in public is just
>>another pointer to the hysteria connected with sexuality in so many
>>religions.
>
>Believe what you like.
>
No, I even believe what I don't like. Can you give better answers than that?
Have you got any evidence for your probably opposite claims?
>>In this case, I don't see why I should accept the complex ridden views
>>of an oriental goatherd.
>
>Ah, yes, I forget that the West is historically so much without sexual
>neurosis :)
>
>"Oriental goatherd", _really_ intellectual.
>
A fact, if memory serves. And most will see the connection between the
primitive machism in the Orient and in Islam.
>>If people agree on having sex it is fine. And I would assume that a
>>god would have a clue of what the detrimental effects of supressing it
>>are.
>
>Huh? Ever heard of AIDs? (Of course you'll probably go on to say that
>God must be evil because he allows the disease to exist, bla bla).
>
As usually you miss the point. Aids is neither spread only through sex
nor necessarily spread by having sex. Futher, the point is, a very important
point, the urge for sex is stronger than the fear of AIDS. It is even
stronger than the religious attempts to channel or to forbid sex. The
consequences of suppressing sex are worse than the consequences of Aids.
Please note that the idea that everybody would end up with AIDS when sex
is not controlled is completely counterfactual.
And since you have brought up the point, is your god evil or not?
Benedikt
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From: dunnjj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (DUNN JONATHAN JAMES)
Subject: Re: ABOLISH SELECTIVE SERVICE
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Lines: 42
muellerm@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Marc Mueller) writes:
>Considering that Clinton received a draft notice and got out of it (he admits it) the political feasibility of him abolishing it is not something he would
>be inclined to risk any extra exposure on.
As a libertarian (with a small l) who voted for Clinton, I think that he
should abolish the Selective Service and the draft. If his conscience
forbade him to go to war in Vietnam, it should forbid him to perpetuate
this system of government-sanctioned slavery.
>Agreed. Congress took money from NASA and FHA to fund the second Seawolf.
>The shipyards are still building Los Angeles Class submarines and there
>is a lack of ASW foes to contend with. The Navy is considering reducing
>the number of attack subs to 40 (Navy Times) and that would entail
>getting rid of or mothballing some of the current Los Angeles class.
>Politically, General Dynamics is in Connecticut and we will get
>Seawolf subs whether we need them or not.
If our government would pay attention to SERIOUS domestic issues (the ECONOMY)
and choose to stay out of other people's wars (Iraq, Bosnia, Somalia),
we would not be in this fix. An anyway, couldn't the jobs be replaced by
improving our domestic situation? (I'm not for continued deficit spending,
but if Clinton and Congress want to spend, I'd rather they improve the
infrastructure than fight other people's wars.)
>In addition, more bases need to be closed. Probably Long Beach Naval Station
>and others. The Navy is talking about three main bases on each coast being
>required to home port a total fleet of 320 ships.
>The question is whether Les Aspin and Clinton will be able to face down
>a pork happy Congress.
A novel idea: Getting away from naval bases, what about refurbishing
decommissioned Air Force bases as airports? This would be SO much cheaper
than building them from the ground up (Denver's new airport is one of the
most appalling examples of pork-barreling and cronyism I have seen in
my lifetime). Even if no more airports are needed, I'm sure Bill Gates
or Ross Perot would LOVE to have their own private airfields, and the
money from their purchases could be applied to the public debt.
>Jon Dunn<
* All E-mail flames will be deleted without reading *
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From: celeste%express@freedom.msfc.nasa.gov (Celeste)
Subject: Re: male/female mystery [ Re: Dumbest automotive concepts of all time ]
Nntp-Posting-Host: 128.158.16.248
Organization: AEGIS
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In article <1pima2INN180@gap.caltech.edu>, wen-king@cs.caltech.edu
(Wen-King Su) wrote:
>
> In article <1993Apr1.191826.28921@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund) writes:
>
> <apparently you're not a woman - my husband hates the auto door locks
> >features, but forgets that besides families with children, a woman
> <feels safer in a car that locks easily (in addition to watching around
> >& checking out if anyone's near me when I get to my car - never park
> <in a secluded spot, etc - have my keys ready to open the door so I'm
> >not fumbling in my purse looking for them ....
>
> This has me thinking. Is there a biological reason why women can't put
> their keys in their pants pockets like men do? I have two pockets on the
> back of each of my pants. I put my keys in one and wallent in another.
> Many of the pockets even have a botton on them so I can close them securely.
> Everything is that much simpler for me. Why can't women do the same?
> Is is biological (ie, not enough room for a bigger bottom plus keys and
> a wallet) or is it the way they are raised by the parents?
Women's pants rarely have pockets and most, when they do, are too
shallow to use!
I is very important for a woman to have her keys in her hand when
she goes from building to a car. It is protect herself from
would be assilants by broadcasting that this is someone who
as a definite place of safty (ie a locked car!).
Puting keys and walet looks ugly! It breaks the lines and makes
you rear look wide as a cows!
Also, to have the habits that
work for any clothing situation, the pruse functions no mater
what you are wearing! (even nude or a bikni)
A women's suit coat is lucky to have 2 pockets (2 on the outside,
none on the inside). I have men's coats that have as much as 6
pockets! This is definitally not fair!!!
As one that wears both men's and women's clothes, I can tell you,
women's clothes have few if any funtional pockets!
When dressed as a man, I put my wallet on my inside coat pocket and
my keys in a coat outside pocket. It is much more covenent
than the pants pockets and looks better.
Having a car that unlocks quickly and locks back fast is
paramout to a woman's safty. Men don't see this as a problem.
A woman is aware of this every time she goes out! (i.e.
Image some red necks yelling at you "We are going to FUCK YOU!"
and the out weight you by 20 lbs and have 3 inches in hight
on you!)
If you want to find out why a women does something, LIVE AS ONE!
Celeste
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From: Mamatha Devineni Ratnam <mr47+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Zane!!Rescue us from Simmons!!
Organization: Post Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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In my last message, I wrote:
****************************************************
12) Management: BIG BIG ZERO. Sauer has yet to make a forceful agreement
in favor of revenue sharing.
******************************************************
I meant argument instead of agreement.
Also, I think I should add a coouple of Ted's positive achievements
- Smiley trade was good for the pirates. but I think Ted could have gotten
someone better than Neagle. Cummings seems to be pretty good.
- The Cole trade was excellent. BUt Simmons has botched it up now.
-This year's draft seems to have gone well for the PIrates. BUt then they
lost 2 high picks in the Bonds fiasco.
OH well, I should give up trying to prove that Simmons is not a total
idiot.
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From: nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu
Subject: Moon Colony Prize Race! $6 billion total?
Lines: 26
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Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
I think if there is to be a prize and such.. There should be "classes"
such as the following:
Large Corp.
Small Corp/Company (based on reported earnings?)
Large Government (GNP and such)
Small Governemtn (or political clout or GNP?)
Large Organization (Planetary Society? and such?)
Small Organization (Alot of small orgs..)
The organization things would probably have to be non-profit or liek ??
Of course this means the prize might go up. Larger get more or ??
Basically make the prize (total purse) $6 billion, divided amngst the class
winners..
More fair?
There would have to be a seperate organization set up to monitor the events,
umpire and such and watch for safety violations (or maybe not, if peopel want
to risk thier own lives let them do it?).
Any other ideas??
==
Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
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From: k_mullin@oz.plymouth.edu (Mully)
Subject: Request for AL stats....
Reply-To: k_mullin@oz.plymouth.edu (Mully)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
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Anyone have the AL individual stats or where i can find them?
K-->
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: WC 93: Results, April 18
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Lines: 43
In article <1993Apr19.211406.22528@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> spiegel@sgi413.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Spiegel) writes:
> According to the SJ Murky News the Team USA roster is (names and
> teams played for in 1992-93 listed):
>
> Goalies
> -------
........
> Forwards
> --------
> Tony Amonte New York Rangers
> Ted Drury Harvard Univ
> Rob Gaudreau San Jose' Sharks
> Craig Johnson Univ of Minnesota
> Jeff Lazaro Ottawa Senators
> Mike Modano Minnesota North Stars
> Ed Olczyk New York Rangers
> Derek Plante Univ of Minnesota-Duluth
> Shion Podein Edmonton Oilers
> David Sacco Boston University
> Darren Turcotte New York Rangers
> Doug Weight Edmonton Oilers
>
It looks like the Edmonton Oilers just decided to take a European
vacation this spring...
Ranford, Tugnutt, Benning, Manson, Smith, Buchberger, and Corson
are playing for Canada.
Podein and Weight are playing for the US.
Is Kravchuk playing for the Russians...I know he had nagging
injuries late in the season.
Podein is an interesting case...because he was eligible to
play in Cape Breton in the AHL playoffs like Kovalev, Zubov,
and Andersson...obviously Sather and Pocklington are not
the total scrooges everyone makes them out to be...certainly
in this case they've massively outclassed Paramount and the
New York Rangers.
Gerald
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From: bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman)
Subject: Brad Hernlem vs. principle
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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In his neverending effort to make sure that we do not forget
what a moron he is, Brad Hernlem has asked why Israel rarely
abides by UN Security Council resolutions. Perhaps the list
below might answer the question.
Incident Security Council Response
------------------------------------------------------------
1. Hindu-Moslem clash in INdia, over 2,000 killed, 1990 NONE
2. Gassing to death of over 8,000 Kurds by NONE
Iraqi Air Force, 1988-89
3. Saudi security forces slaughter NONE
400 pilgrims in Mecca, 1987
4. Killing by Algerian army of 500 demonstrators, 1988 NONE
5. Intrafada (Arabs killing Arabs) -- over 300 killed NONE
6. 30,000 civilians slaughtered by government NONE
troops in Hama, Syria, 1982
7. Killing of 5,000 Palestinians by Jordanian troops, NONE
thousands expelled, Sept., 1970
8. 87 Moslems killed in Egypt, 1981 NONE
9. 77 killed in Egyption bread riots, 1977 NONE
10. 30 border and rocket attacks against Israel by NONE
the PLO in 1989 alone
11. Munich, 1972: 11 Israeli athletes slaughtered NONE
12. Ma'alot, 1974: children killed in PLO attack NONE
13. Israel Coastal bus attack: 34 dead, 82 wounded NONE
14. Syria kills 23,000 Palestinians, 1976 NONE
15. Lebanon: over 150,000 dead since 1975 NONE
16. Yemen: 13,000 killed in two weeks, 1986 NONE
17. Sudan: Tens of thousands of Black slaves, NONE
Civil War toll, 1 million killed, 3 million refugees
18. Tienenman Square massacre 1989 NONE
19. Rumania, 3,000 killed, 1989 NONE
20. Pan Am 103 disaster carried out by the P.L.O NONE
21. Northern Ireland NONE
22. Cambodia NONE
23. Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan NONE
24. American riots at Attica, Watts, Newark, Kent State NONE
25. 1981: Israel destroys Iraqi reractor, Israel CONDEMNED
26. 1990: Israeli police protect Israeli worshipers CONDEMNED
against Arab mob, 18 anti-Jewish rioters killed
27. Syrian soldiers slaughter Christian soldiers NONE
after they surrender, 1990
It appears that Brad Hernlem and the United Nations Security
Council have something in common. They both seem unfettered
by the demands of acting on principle.
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From: Wayne.Orwig@AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Wayne Orwig)
Subject: Re: Shaft-drives and Wheelies
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Nntp-Posting-Host: worwig.atlantaga.ncr.com
Organization: NCR Corporation
X-Newsreader: FTPNuz (DOS) v1.0
In Article <1r16ja$dpa@news.ysu.edu> "ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker)" says:
>
> In a previous article, xlyx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu () says:
>
> Mike Terry asks:
>
> >Is it possible to do a "wheelie" on a motorcycle with shaft-drive?
> >
> No Mike. It is imposible due to the shaft effect. The centripital effects
> of the rotating shaft counteract any tendency for the front wheel to lift
> off the ground.
> --
> DoD #650<----------------------------------------------------------->DarkMan
Well my last two motorcycles have been shaft driven and they will wheelie.
The rear gear does climb the ring gear and lift the rear which gives an
odd feel, but it still wheelies.
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Subject: Re: Trouble compiling X11R5 on SunOS_4.1.3
From: nemo@aguirre.dia.fi.upm.es (Francisco J. Ballesteros)
Organization: Computer Science, CLIP lab, UPM Madrid, Spain.
Nntp-Posting-Host: aguirre.dia.fi.upm.es
In-reply-to: dmm@head-cfa.harvard.edu's message of 2 Apr 93 21:24:05 GMT
Lines: 21
In article <1993Apr2.212405.5213@head-cfa.harvard.edu> dmm@head-cfa.harvard.edu (David Meleedy) writes:
> I've been trying to compile X11R5 patchlevel 23 on a Sun Sparc
> IPX using SunOS_4.1.3, and gcc 2.3.3.
>
> The problem occurs during the initial "make World". When
> it gets up to compiling the standard X clients, it can't seem to find
> some of the libraries. Right now we highly suspect the program "ld"
> which was updated for 4_1_3.
>
Yip, we had the same problem; the only fix we found was to link static
some of the clients, ( btw, we used cc). :-(.
--
/+=========================================++================================+\
||Francisco J. Ballesteros [a.k.a. Nemo] || email: nemo@clip.dia.fi.upm.es||
||org: Computer Science, CLIP lab. || phone: +34 1 336-7448 ||
|| Campus Montegancedo s.n. U.P.M. || ___ ___ ||
|| Boadilla del Monte, Madrid, Spain. || \\ \\ o \\_) \ _ \__ ||
\+=========================================++== \\__ \\__\\ \\ == \_(_\_\_) =+/
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From: gtj@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (Glenn T Jayaputera)
Subject: Need Info on high quality video card
Organization: RMIT Department of Computer Science
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Hi...I need some info on video card. I am looking a video card that can
deliver a high quality picture. I need the card to display images (well
for advertising company btw), so it must be rich with colors and the speed
must be fast too.
I am just wondering if somebody can advise me what to buy for such
application, and possible the address of the vendor.
thanks in advance
Glenn Jayaputera
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From: msk9@po.CWRU.Edu (Mahesh S. Khot)
Subject: Quattro Pro File Format
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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Reply-To: msk9@po.CWRU.Edu (Mahesh S. Khot)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu
We are trying to write a program which can read files created by quattro
pro 3.0 and above. Would anyone know where to find information regarding
the format in which Quattro Pro stores its files.
Thanks in Advance
Mahesh
--
famous dummies = Madam Tussade's Wax Museum.
Still at Case msk9@po.cwru.edu
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From: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein)
Subject: Re: Could this be a migraine?
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein)
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GB> From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
GB> >(I am excepting migraine, which is arguably neurologic).
GB> I hope you meant "inarguably".
Given the choice, I would rather argue <g>.
No arguments about migranous aura; in fact, current best evidence is
that aura is intrinsicially neuronal (a la spreading depression of
Leao) rather than vascular (something causing vasoconstriction and
secondary neuronal ischemia).
Migraine without aura, however, is a fuzzier issue. There do not
seem to be objectively measurable changes in brain function. The
Copenhagen mafia (Lauritzen, Olesen, et al) have done local CBF
studies on migraine without aura, and (unlike migraine with aura,
but like tension-type) they found no changes in LCBF.
From one (absurd) perspective, *all* pain is neurologic, because in
the absence of a nervous system, there would not be pain. From
another (tautologic) perspective, any disease is in the domain of
the specialty that treats it. Neurologists treat headache,
therefore (at least in the USA) headache is neurologic.
Whether neurologic or not, nobody would disagree that disabling
headaches are common. Perhaps my fee-for-service neurologic
colleagues, scrounging for cases, want all the headache patients
they can get. Working on a salary, however, I would rather not fill
my office with patients holding their heads in pain.
---
. SLMR 2.1 . E-mail: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein)
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From: berger@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (David Berger)
Subject: 101 Keyboard wanted.
Organization: Brandeis University
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I'm looking to buy a 100% working keyboard for a 286 system (preferably
a 101 layout.) I'm looking to spend about $20.
--
David
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From: jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost)
Subject: Re: Dumbest automotive concepts of all time
Article-I.D.: armory.1prve9$1aa
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
Lines: 14
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.3.202
dunnjj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (DUNN JONATHAN JAMES) writes:
>ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>>Cup holders (driving is an importantant enough undertaking)
>This is a good idea - so you can carry your (non-alcoholic) drinks without
>spilling or having someone hold on to them.
I agree. Six hour long stretches behind the wheel really make me
thirsty, especially for something with caffeine. I consider it a
failing of my car that it has no cup holder nor anywhere to put a cup
holder.
jim frost
jimf@centerline.com
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From: dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen)
Subject: Re: images of earth
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Lines: 20
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen)
NNTP-Posting-Host: imp.sim.es.com
I downloaded an image of the earth re-constructed from elevation data taken
at 1/2 degree increments. The author (not me) wrote some c-code (included)
that read in the data file and generated b&w and pseudo color images. They
work very well and are not incumbered by copyright. They are at an aminet
site near you called earth.lha in the amiga/pix/misc area...
I refer you to the included docs for the details on how the author (sorry, I
forget his name) created these images. The raw data is not included.
--
David
David M. Ingebretsen
Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
dingebre@thunder.sim.es.com
Disclaimer: The content of this message in no way reflects the
opinions of my employer, nor are my actions
encouraged, supported, or acknowledged by my
employer.
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From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: Off the shelf cheap DES keyseach machine
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Lines: 16
In article <7020.Apr2207.05.3993@silverton.berkeley.edu>, djb@silverton.berkeley.edu (D. J. Bernstein) writes:
> In article <1993Apr21.132318.16981@ulysses.att.com> smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
> > And key size is one of the things that can be
> > verified externally.
>
> Gee. Say they feed the 80-bit key through Snefru-8 and take the first 60
> bits of the result, then use those 60 bits as the real key. How do you
> figure out that each key is one of 2^20 ``equal'' keys? You can try a
> birthday attack, but if the key can be changed only once a second then
> you will need several lifetimes to get reliable statistics.
You're right, and I retract the suggestion. Still, I wonder. That
there are only 60 bits of key information should, in principle, be
detectable. Maybe some variant of the tests Rivest et al. did to
demonstrate that DES was probably not a group? It should make an
interesting paper -- a black-box analysis of a cryptosystem.
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From: gcohen@mailer.acns.fsu.edu (Gregory Cohen)
Subject: Re: Photo shop scanner?
Organization: Florida State University
Lines: 37
In article <C5LGII.EuJ@ncube.com> root@ncube.com (Operator) writes:
>From: root@ncube.com (Operator)
>Subject: Photo shop scanner?
>Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1993 20:49:30 GMT
>I have a Macc IIci and a Color scanner.
>I scanned a picture at 600 dpi. When I try to print
>it on my HP500 color printer, after 10 minutes of
>making noise, the mac hangs. I would need to reboot it.
>What does this mean? Do I need to buy more memory? I have
>5.0 MB now. I also have about 50 MB of disk free, and the
>scanned picture is about 12 MB.
>
>---
>
>
>
> ^~
> @ * *
> Captain Zod... _|/_ /
> zod@ncube.com |-|-|/
> 0 /| 0
> / |
> \=======&==\===
> \===========&===
>
>
>
have you tried printing the data file (TIFF) from another application such
as freehand or PageMaker? I have found that Photoshop has occasional
problems printing files that I can print through other applications.
-GReg
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From: cmwolf@mtu.edu (Engineer by Day - Asleep by Night)
Subject: Re: Answers to many electronics Questions
Organization: Michigan Technological University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Lines: 19
Bill Willis (willisw@willisw.ENG.CLEMSON.edu) wrote:
: I have notice a lot of electronics questions by people who are obviously not
: "tuned-in" to electronics. Many of them have rather simple answers, and
: many of them require a circuit diagram.
: Rather than muck up the network, why don't you write to me, send a self-
: addressed, stamped envelop, and I'll answer your questions, if I can.
: W. L. Willis, P. E.
: 114 Fern Circle
: Clemson, SC 29631
Because the network is quicker, easier, and free (at least to me).
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher Wolf Electrical Engineer cmwolf@mtu.edu
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Remember, even if you win the Rat Race - You're still a rat.
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From: gtoal@gtoal.com (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Do we need the clipper for cheap security?
Lines: 24
gtoal@gtoal.com (Graham Toal) writes:
>
>In the UK, it's impossible to get approval to attach any crypto device
>to the phone network. (Anything that plugs in to our BT phone sockets
>must be approved - for some reason crypto devices just never are...)
>
Whats the difference between a V.32bis modem and a V.32bis modem?
I'm not being entirely silly here: what I'm pointing out is that the
modems that they have already approved for data transmission will work
just fine to transmit scrambled vocoded voice.
Absolutely. I just meant that no secure *dedicated* crypto device has
ever been given approval. Guerrilla underground devices should be well
possible with today's high-speed modems (not that I can think of many v32bis
modems that are approved either mind you - just the overpriced Couriers)
Can someone tell me if hardware compression is or is not needed to run
digital speech down 14.4K? I think it is; I've heard it's not. Lets
say 8 bit samples. Would *raw* data at the corresponding sampling rate
be usable? If not, how fancy does the compression need to be?
G
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From: tammy@uclink.berkeley.edu (Tammy Chen)
Subject: Toolwork: MPC Encyclopedia on CD-ROM
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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NNTP-Posting-Host: uclink.berkeley.edu
I have the following program on CD ROM forsale:
Toolwork MPC Encyclopedia on CD-ROM
- Multimedia
- Brand new
- Shrink-wrapped
Asking : $50 / obo
Send reply to : sam@ocf.berkeley.edu
Thank you
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Nntp-Posting-Host: 134.58.96.14
From: wimvh@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be (Wim Van Holder)
Distribution: world
Organization: K.U.Leuven - Applied Economic Sciences Department
Subject: WINQVTNET with NDIS on Token Ring ?
Lines: 13
Is it possible to use WinQVT/Net on a machine that uses NDIS to connect to a
Token Ring ? I tried it with older versions (< 3.2) but got an invalid packet
class error or something the like...
Regards,
Wim Van Holder
Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Tel: ++32 (0)16/28.57.16
Departement T.E.W. FAX: ++32 (0)16/28.57.99
Dekenstraat 2
B-3000 Leuven E-mail: wimvh@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be
BELGIUM fdbaq03@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be
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From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: Shuttle oxygen (was Budget Astronaut)
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Nntp-Posting-Host: skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
In article <1qn044$gq5@access.digex.net>, prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
>I thought that under emergency conditions, the STS can
>put down at any good size Airport. IF it could take a C-5 or a
>747, then it can take an orbiter. You just need a VOR/TAC
>
>I don't know if they need ILS.
DFW was designed with the STS in mind (which really mean very little). Much of
their early PR material had scenes with a shuttle landing and two or three
others pulled up to gates. I guess they were trying to stress how advanced the
airport was.
For Dallas types: Imagine the fit Grapevine and Irving would be having if the
shuttle WAS landing at DFW. (For the rest, they are currently having some power
struggles between the airport and surrounding cities).
--
Dillon Pyron | The opinions expressed are those of the
TI/DSEG Lewisville VAX Support | sender unless otherwise stated.
(214)462-3556 (when I'm here) |
(214)492-4656 (when I'm home) |Texans: Vote NO on Robin Hood. We need
pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com |solutions, not gestures.
PADI DM-54909 |
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From: jrogoff@scott.skidmore.edu (jay rogoff)
Subject: Box score abbrev woes
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Lines: 7
Can anybody figure out why some box score abbreviations make
absolutely no sense? (At least in the local Gannett rag that finds its way
to my door.) I must have stared at "Cleman" in the Mets' box for a
good 30 seconds this morning wondering who the hell it was. Wouldn't
it make more sense to use "Colemn"?
Jay
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From: fineman@stein2.u.washington.edu (Twixt your toes)
Subject: Anyone know use "rayshade" out there?
Organization: University of Washington
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NNTP-Posting-Host: stein2.u.washington.edu
Keywords: rayshade, uw.
I'm using "rayshade" on the u.w. computers here, and i'd like input
from other users, and perhaps swap some ideas. I could post
uuencoded .gifs here, or .ray code, if anyone's interested. I'm having
trouble coming up with colors that are metallic (i.e. brass, steel)
from the RGB values.
If you're on the u.w. machines, check out "~fineman/rle.files/*.rle" on
stein.u.washington.edu for some of what i've got.
dan
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From: ab220@Freenet.carleton.ca (Michel Dozois)
Subject: Re: PowerBook Batteries
Reply-To: ab220@Freenet.carleton.ca (Michel Dozois)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Lines: 20
In a previous article, gil@cc.gatech.edu (Gil Neiger) says:
>I have a few questions about PowerBook batteries, specifically,
>the NiCad batteries I have for my PB170.
>
>2. Can the PowerBook run without any battery if the charger is
>plugged in?
No problems.
--
Michel Dozois - Gloucester, Ontario, Canada - ab220@freenet.carleton.ca
- Membre du Club de cerf-volant de l'Outaouais {OVKC}
- Membre du National Capital Macintosh Club {NCMC}
- Membre du Jungle BBS {un babillard Macintosh}
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: **Sorry folks** (read this)
Originator: rita@eff.org
Nntp-Posting-Host: eff.org
Organization: Enormes_Rebajas_Online
Distribution: na
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In article <1993Apr22.014646.28445@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson) writes:
>I just found out from my source that this article was a joke. Heh heh..
>It seemed pretty damn convincing to me from the start -- I just didn't
>notice the smiley at the end of the article, and there were a few other
>hints which I should of caught.
People took this article seriously? I mean, I know it's the
Net and all, but the prankster didn't even have Clinton's sound-bites
right.
--
Rita Rouvalis
rita@village.com
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From: db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler)
Subject: Re: Question about Virgin Mary
Organization: Freshman, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 22
D. Andrew Kille writes:
>Just an observation- although the bodily assumption has no basis in
>the Bible, Carl Jung declared it to be one of the most important
>pronouncements
>of the church in recent years, in that it implied the inclusion of the
>feminine into the Godhead.
Which means he has absolutely no idea about what the Assumption is.
However greatly we extoll Mary, it is quite obvious that she is in no
way God or even part of God or equal to God. The Assumption of our
Blessed Mother, meant that because of her close identification with the
redemptive work of Christ, she was Assumed (note that she did not
ASCEND) body and soul into Heaven, and is thus one of the few, along
with Elijah, Enoch, Moses (maybe????) who are already perfected in
Heaven. Obviously, the Virgin Mary is far superior in glorification to
any of the previously mentioned personages.
Jung should stick to Psychology rather than getting into Theology.
Andy Byler
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From: miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: Ancient Books
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services
Lines: 43
In article <Apr.14.03.07.58.1993.5438@athos.rutgers.edu>, mayne@ds3.scri.fsu.edu (Bill Mayne) writes:
> In article <Apr.13.00.09.02.1993.28445@athos.rutgers.edu> miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>[Any former atheists converted by argument?}
>>This is an excellent question and I'll be anxious to see if there are
>>any such cases. I doubt it. In the medieval period (esp. 10th-cent.
>>when Aquinas flourished) argument was a useful tool because everyone
>>"knew the rules." Today, when you can't count on people knowing even
>>the basics of logic or seeing through rhetoric, a good argument is
>>often indistinguishable from a poor one.
>
> The last sentence is ironic, since so many readers of
> soc.religion.christian seem to not be embarrassed by apologists such as
> Josh McDowell and C.S. Lewis.
I haven't followed whatever discussion there may have been on these
people, but I feel that C. S. Lewis is an excellent apologist and I
see no reason for embarrassment. If you think that errors and flawed
arguments are a reason for dismissing a thinker, you must dismiss
nearly every thinker from Descartes to Kant; any philosophy course
will introduce you to their weaknesses.
The above also expresses a rather odd sense
> of history. What makes you think the masses in Aquinas' day, who were
> mostly illiterate, knew any more about rhetoric and logic than most people
> today? If writings from the period seem elevated consider that only the
> cream of the crop, so to speak, could read and write. If everyone in
> the medieval period "knew the rules" it was a matter of uncritically
> accepting what they were told.
I said nothing about "the masses." However comparing "the masses" in
our day and in Aquinas' day really *is* odd. Read Ortega y Gasset on
this.
I'm talking about the familiar experience of arguing all night and
winning on logic and evidence, only to discover your opponent to be
unaware, even intuitively, of things like entailment (let alone
pragmatics). (I am assuming that both parties are college graduates
or better...) Myself, I don't bother any more.
Ken
--
miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu | Nobody can explain everything to everybody.
opinions are my own | G. K. Chesterton
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From: root@zmax.com (The Big Cheese)
Subject: Laptop Cards
Organization: Z/Max Computer Solutions, Inc.
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Laptop Connectivity Cards
-------------------------
Part #T2RN
Desc: 3270 Remote Emulation Card for Toshiba Laptop Computer
Part #T324M
Desc: Easytalk 2400 bd dedicated internal modem with MNP level 5 for
Toshiba T1200 & T1600
Part #T2LL
Desc: Easytalk internal ethernet card for toshiba laptop expansion slot.
Part #T232
Desc: Easytalk 3270 Terminal emulation for toshiba laptop expansion slot
If interested in all or individual parts send email to rotella@zmax.com
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From: dyoung@media.mit.edu (David Young)
Subject: Q: Colormaps with dialog shells
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
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I have an applicationShell which uses a colormap created with
XCreateColormap() and uses all of the colors available for my 8-bit
display. When I move the cursor over the window I get the "Technicolor
Effect" - which is fine. Basically, my program works.
My problem/question is: When I popup a dialogShell to prompt the user for
some input I want the XmNdialogStyle to be set to
XmDIALOG_PRIMARY_APPLICATION_MODAL. The result is that if my cursor is
over the dialogShell I get my colormap, but if the cursor is over the
applicationShell (or any window other than the dialogShell) I get the
default colormap. But I'd like it so that if my cursor is over _any_
window of my application, I get my colormap.
Any suggestions? Thanks,
david,
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From: gp2011@andy.bgsu.edu (George Pavlic)
Subject: Matt Militzok please read!
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Lines: 6
Sorry to everyone for wasting space. Matt, the other day you posted that
you were doing a mailing list of playoff stats. I lost your address.
Please put me on that list. Thanks.
George
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From: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com (Roger Collier)
Subject: Re: Camping question?
Organization: Sun Microsystems (UK) Ltd
Lines: 26
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: discovery.uk.sun.com
In article 10823@bnr.ca, npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar) writes:
>
>Back in my youth (ahem) the wiffy and moi purchased a gadget which heated up
>water from a 12V source. It was for car use but we thought we'd try it on my
>RD350B. It worked OK apart from one slight problem: we had to keep the revs
>above 7000. Any lower and the motor would die from lack of electron movement.
On my LC (RZ to any ex-colonists) I replaced the bolt at the bottom of the barrel
with a tap. When I wanted a coffee I could just rev the engine until boiling
and pour out a cup of hot water.
I used ethylene glycol as antifreeze rather than methanol as it tastes sweeter.
(-:
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_ # Roger.Collier@Uk.Sun.COM #
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(O_O) # Sun Microsystems, #
\H/ # Coventry, England. #
U # (44) 203 692255 #
# DoD#226 GSXR1100L #
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Keeper of the GSXR1100 list.
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From: jenski@cae.wisc.edu (Anders Jenski)
Subject: Quadra 950/900 case source wanted
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Lines: 12
Hello all,
If anyone knows of a place to get the case to hold the power supply and
motherboard of a Quadra 950 please let me know. I have tried some mail
order places and some local stores. Both groups would prefer that I part
with over $1000 to get just the case. In my eyes this seems about $600-$700
to much. Any comments? I currently own the guts of a 950.
Please email me or post to this group w/ info,
Thanks in advance,
Andy
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From: cescript@mtu.edu (Charles Scripter)
Subject: Re: Raid justification was: Blast them next time
Distribution: usa
Organization: Michigan Tech
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Nntp-Posting-Host: physerver.phy.mtu.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
On Wed, 21 Apr 1993 03:52:11 GMT, Peter Cash (cash@convex.com) wrote:
> I just got through listening to the 10 o'clock news on Channel 4 here in
> Dallas. They trotted out a list of justifications produced by the ATF after
> "months of investigation" for their raid.
CNN just claimed he bought 104 "semi-automatic assault rifles". And
they say Koresh wasn't god-like... He managed to buy or build a
collection of fully-automatic semi-automatic rifles... Quite a feat,
I would say. ;-)
They're still making charges of "sexual abuse" and such, or course.
Nobody seems to have noticed that the Treasury department has nothing
to do with sex crimes. Or maybe the feds have recently instituted a
TAX on sex crimes... Yeah, that's why the BATF was there, looking for
unregistered *guns* ("this is my weapon, this is my gun, this is for
fighting, this is for...").
> I couldn't believe the junk on this list! For example, the BDs were accused
> of stockpiling a bunch of "9mm and .223 ammunition that can be used in M15
> and M16 assault rifles". Imagine that--they had ammunition!
I also heard that they're claiming to be cautious because of Koresh's
"heated ammunition stockpile". I seem to recall that smokeless powder
tends to decompose at even moderate temperatures. I would be rather
surprised, after a fire of that nature, if *any* of his "stockpile" is
unexploded, or unburned.
> They also had
> aluminum dust! (Yeah, it's a component of thermite, but so far I haven't
> heard that it's illegal to take a grinder to the aluminum lawn
> furniture...)
I seem to recall that aluminum powder is a common component of
fireworks... The folks on rec.pyro could probably tell you.
> The only thing on the list that could conceivably have been
> illegal was an M-79 grenade launcher. (Anybody know about this?)
I think *anything* is legal if you have the proper license. If he had
a "curios and relics" permit, I believe he could legally own
handgrenades to go with his launcher.
--
Charles Scripter * cescript@phy.mtu.edu
Dept of Physics, Michigan Tech, Houghton, MI 49931
-------------------------------------------------------------
"...when all government... in little as in great things, shall be
drawn to Washington as the centre of all power, it will render
powerless the checks provided of one government on another and will
become as venal and oppressive as the government from which we
separated." Thomas Jefferson, 1821
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From: ifaz706@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu (Noam Tractinsky)
Subject: Re: Ten questions about Israel
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Organization: University of Texas @ Austin
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In article <1483500349@igc.apc.org>, cpr@igc.apc.org (Center for Policy Research) writes:
>
> From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
> Subject: Ten questions about Israel
>
>
> Ten questions to Israelis
> -------------------------
>
> I would be thankful if any of you who live in Israel could help to
> provide
> accurate answers to the following specific questions. These are
> indeed provocative questions but they are asked time and again by
> people around me.
>
> 1. Is it true that the Israeli authorities don't recognize
> Israeli nationality ? And that ID cards, which Israeli citizens
> must carry at all times, identify people as Jews or Arabs, not as
> Israelis ?
That's true. Israeli ID cards do not identify people
as Israelies. Smart huh?
> 3. Is it true that Israeli stocks nuclear weapons ? If so,
> could you provide any evidence ?
Yes. There's one warhead in my parent's backyard in
Beer Sheva (that's only some 20 miles from Dimona,
you know). Evidence? I saw it!
> 4. Is it true that in Israeli prisons there are a number of
> individuals which were tried in secret and for which their
> identities, the date of their trial and their imprisonment are
> state secrets ?
Yes. But unfortunately I can't give you more details.
That's _secret_, you see.
[...]
>
> Thanks,
>
> Elias Davidsson Iceland email: elias@ismennt.is
You're welcome. Now, let me ask you a few questions, if you
don't mind:
1. Is it true that the Center for Policy Research is a
one-man enterprise?
2. Is it true that your questions are not being asked
bona fide?
3. Is it true that your statement above, "These are indeed
provocative questions but they are asked time and again by
people around me" is not true?
Noam
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From: brucek@Ingres.COM (Bruce Kleinman)
Subject: Re: When did Dodgers move from NY to LA?
Article-I.D.: pony.1993Apr6.195730.20277
Organization: Ingres Corporation, A subsidiary of The ASK Group, Inc.
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In article <1993Apr5.160030.2328@ncar.ucar.edu> tparker@music.scd.ucar.edu (Tom Parker) writes:
>I have a bet with my buddy on when the Dodgers moved from NY to LA. Does
>anyone know what year they moved?
>
The Dodgers' first year in LA was 1958.
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From: bgardner@bambam.es.com (Blaine Gardner)
Subject: Re: Why I won't be getting my Low Rider this year
Keywords: congratz
Article-I.D.: dsd.1993Apr6.044018.23281
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In article <1993Apr5.182851.23410@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) writes:
>In article <1993Mar30.214419.923@pb2esac.uucp>, prahren@pb2esac.uucp (Peter Ahrens) writes:
>> That would be low drag bars and way rad rearsets for the FJ, so that the
>> ergonomic constraints would have contraceptive consequences?
>
>Ouch. :-) This brings to mind one of the recommendations in the
>Hurt Study. Because the rear of the gas tank is in close proximity
>to highly prized and easily damaged anatomy, Hurt et al recommended
>that manufacturers build the tank so as to reduce the, er, step function
>provided when the rider's body slides off of the seat and onto the
>gas tank in the unfortunate event that the bike stops suddenly and the
>rider doesn't. I think it's really inspiring how the manufacturers
>have taken this advice to heart in their design of bikes like the
>CBR900RR and the GTS1000A.
I dunno, on my old GS1000E the tank-seat junction was nice and smooth.
But if you were to travel all the way forward, you'd collect the top
triple-clamp in a sensitive area. I'd hate to have to make the choice,
but I think I'd prefer the FJ's gas tank. :-)
--
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland
bgardner@dsd.es.com
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From: filipows@spk.hp.com (Dennis Filipowski)
Subject: ? Octopus
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
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During the Detroit game Mon night there were octopus thrown on
the ice what is the meaning or symbolism here? They used to
throw fish on the ice here in Spokane afew years ago. I never
knew where this came from.
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From: ayr1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Amir Y Rosenblatt)
Subject: Re: Legality of the Jewish Purchase (was Re: Israeli Expansion-lust)
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Reply-To: ayr1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Amir Y Rosenblatt)
Organization: Columbia University
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In article <1993Apr16.225910.16670@bnr.ca> zbib@bnr.ca writes:
>Adam Shostack writes:
>> Sam Zbib writes
> >>I'm surprised that you don't consider the acquisition of land by
> >>the Jews from arabs, for the purpose of establishing an exclusive
> >>state, as a hostile action leading to war.
>
>> It was for the purpose of establishing a state, not an
>> exclusive state. If the state was to be exclusive, it would not have
>> 400 000 arab citizens.
>
>Could you please tell me what was the ethnic composition of
>Israel right after it was formed.
>
>
>> And no, I do not consider the purchase of land a hostile
>> action. When someone wants to buy land, and someone else is willing
>> to sell it, at a mutually agreeable price, then that is commerce. It
>> is not a hostile action leading to war.
>
>No one in his right mind would sell his freedom and dignity.
>Palestinians are no exception. Perhaps you heard about
>anti-trust in the business world.
>
>Since we are debating the legality of a commercial
>transaction, we must use the laws governing the guidelines
>and ethics of such transactions. Basic ANTI-TRUST law says
>that, while you can purchase IBM stocks for the purpose of
>investing, you can not acquire a large number of those
>shares with the intent or controlling IBM. You can do so
>only if you make your intentions CLEAR apriori . Clearly,
>the Jews who purchased properties from palastenians had some
>designs, they were not buying a dwelling or a real estate.
>They were establishing a bridgehead for the European Jews.
>
>The palastenians sold their properties to the Jews in the
>old tradition of arab hospitality. Being a multi-ethnic /
>multi-religious society, accepting the jews as neighbours
>was no different, just another religion. Plus they paid fair
>market value, etc... They did not know they were victims of
>an international conspiracy. (I'm not a conspiracy theorist
>myself, but this one is hard to dismiss).
>
Right now, I'm just going to address this point.
When the Jewish National Fund bought most of its land,
It didn't buy it from the Palestinians themselves, because,
for the most part, they were tenant farmers (fallahin),
living on land owned by wealthy Arabs in Syria and Lebanon.
The JNF offered a premium deal, so the owners took advantage of
it. It's called commerce. The owners, however, made no
provisions for those who had worked for them, basically shafting
them by selling the land right out from under them.
They are to blame, not the Jews.
>
>> Adam Shostack adam@das.harvard.edu
>
>--
>Sam Zbib Bell-Northern Research
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Amir
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