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From: jae2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Jason Ehas)
Subject: Re: Giveaways
Organization: Home of 1984 NCAA hockey champs
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In article <1qi44l$kqr@access.digex.net>, steveg@cadkey.com (Steve
Gallichio) wrote:
>
>
> John P. Curcio (jpc@philabs.philips.com) responded to my drivel:
>
> >steveg@cadkey.com (Steve Gallichio) writes:
> >
> >>I still am surprised that no one has tried giving away the goodies at the end
> >>of the game. The two problems with that, of course, are that you would want
> >>to make sure the first people in the building would be assured of getting
> >>them (probably redeemable vouchers), and that the building managers want to
> >>avoid at all costs delaying people as they leave the building, if, for
> >>instance, the goodies are given to people as they exit.
> >
> >I went to the New Jersey Devils/Carvel Ice Cream Puck Night (tm) last year to
> >see the beloved Bruins play. The pucks were given out at the end of the game.
> >I could just imagine what would have happened late in the third if the Bruins
> >were winning....
>
> It figures, after I posted the first article, I found out that the Whalers are
> going to be using coupons for the the giveaway on Friday Night. I believe that
> is is the "Some Big Corporation (Probably a Bank) Flying Disk Night." I think
> that we could all see the potential for danger here...
>
> >|> All in all, I have seen a whole bunch of giveaways land on the ice, and it
> >|> never ceases to amuse me. I'm just thankful for the players that no one has
> >|> yet to sponsor 'Lead Pipe Night' at any arenas...
> >
> >That's probably because they couldn't find anyone to sponser it... Maybe USS
> >could sponser the Pittsburgh Penguins/US Steel Steel Rod Night-- close enough?
>
> Naah, it'd probably bounce off of Jay Caufield.
>
> -SG
I was at a Cincinnati Cyclones game a year ago when the local country
station sponsored a kazoo giveaway. After a particularly bad call by the
underexperienced ECHL ref, it was Kazoostorm time down on the ice. I
thought this was a pathetic display by the fans, but they were rightfully
unhappy.
Jason
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From: holland@CS.ColoState.EDU (douglas craig holland)
Subject: Re: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption
Distribution: na
Nntp-Posting-Host: beethoven.cs.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department
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In article <1993Apr19.130132.12650@afterlife.ncsc.mil> rlward1@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Robert Ward) writes:
>In article <bontchev.734981805@fbihh> bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de writes:
>>and since the US constitutions guarantees the right to every American
>>to bear arms, why is not every American entitled, as a matter of
>
>Have you read the applicable part of the Constitution and interpreted it IN
>CONTEXT? If not, please do so before posting this misinterpretation again.
>It refers to the right of the people to organize a militia, not for individuals
>to carry handguns, grenades, and assault rifles.
Read the Constitution yourself. The Second Amendment says the right to bear
arms shall not be infringed, so a well regulated militia may be more easily
formed. I have an interpretation of the Second that shows there are no
qualifications to the right to keep and bear arms. If you want, I can E-mail
it to you. By the way, gun talk belongs in talk.politics.guns.
Doug Holland
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From: xlyx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Subject: Shaft-drives and Wheelies
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University
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Is it possible to do a "wheelie" on a motorcycle with shaft-drive?
Mike Terry
'82 Virago
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From: nabil@cae.wisc.edu (Nabil Ayoub)
Subject: Re: Monophysites and Mike Walker
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
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Hello src readers,
Again the misconception that Copts among other Oriental Orthodox
Churches believe in Monophysitism pops up again. We had a discussion
about it a while ago.
In article <May.6.00.34.58.1993.15426@geneva.rutgers.edu> db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler) writes:
>
>The proper term for what Mike expresses is Monophysitism. This was a
>heresy that was condemned in the Council of Chalcedon in 451 AD. It
>grew up in reaction to Nestorianism, which held that the Son and Jesus
>are two different people who happened to be united in the same body
>temporarily. Monophysitism is held by the Copts of Egypt and Ethipoia
>and by the Jacobites of Syria and the Armenian Orthodox.
Then OFM comments :
>
>
>[These issues get mighty subtle. When you see people saying different
>things it's often hard to tell whether they really mean seriously
>different things, or whether they are using different terminology. I
>don't think there's any question that there is a problem with
>Nestorius, and I would agree that the saying Christ had a human form
>without a real human nature or will is heretical. But I'd like to be
>a bit wary about the Copts, Armenians, etc. Recent discussions
>suggest that their monophysite position may not be as far from
>orthodoxy as many had thought.
With my appreciation to the moderator, I believe that further elaboration
is needed. This is an excerpt from an article featured in the first issue
of the Copt-Net Newsletter :
Under the authority of the Eastern Roman Empire of Constantinople (as opposed
to the western empire of Rome), the Patriarchs and Popes of Alexandria played
leading roles in Christian theology. They were invited everywhere to speak
about the Christian faith. St. Cyril, Pope of Alexandria, was the head of the
Ecumenical Council which was held in Ephesus in the year 430 A.D. It was said
that the bishops of the Church of Alexandria did nothing but spend all their
time in meetings. This leading role, however, did not fare well when politics
started to intermingle with Church affairs. It all started when the Emperor
Marcianus interfered with matters of faith in the Church. The response of St.
Dioscorus, the Pope of Alexandria who was later exiled, to this interference
was clear: "You have nothing to do with the Church." These political motives
became even more apparent in Chalcedon in 451, when the Coptic Church was
unfairly accused of following the teachings of Eutyches, who believed in
monophysitism. This doctrine maintains that the Lord Jesus Christ has only
one nature, the divine, not two natures, the human as well as the divine.
The Coptic Church has never believed in monophysitism the way it was
portrayed in the Council of Chalcedon! In that Council, monophysitism meant
believing in one nature. Copts believe that the Lord is perfect in His
divinity, and He is perfect in His humanity, but His divinity and His
humanity were united in one nature called "the nature of the incarnate word",
which was reiterated by St. Cyril of Alexandria. Copts, thus, believe in two
natures "human" and "divine" that are united in one "without mingling,
without confusion, and without alteration" (from the declaration of faith at
the end of the Coptic divine liturgy). These two natures "did not separate
for a moment or the twinkling of an eye" (also from the declaration of faith
at the end of the Coptic divine liturgy).
The Coptic Church was misunderstood in the 5th century at the Council of
Chalcedon. Perhaps the Council understood the Church correctly, but they
wanted to exile the Church, to isolate it and to abolish the Egyptian,
independent Pope. Despite all of this, the Coptic Church has remained very
strict and steadfast in its faith. Whether it was a conspiracy from the
Western Churches to exile the Coptic Church as a punishment for its refusal
to be politically influenced, or whether Pope Dioscurus didn't quite go the
extra mile to make the point that Copts are not monophysite, the Coptic
Church has always felt a mandate to reconcile "semantic" differences between
all Christian Churches. This is aptly expressed by the current 117th
successor of St. Mark, Pope Shenouda III: "To the Coptic Church, faith is
more important than anything, and others must know that semantics and
terminology are of little importance to us." Throughout this century, the
Coptic Church has played an important role in the ecumenical movement. The
Coptic Church is one of the founders of the World Council of Churches. It has
remained a member of that council since 1948 A.D. The Coptic Church is a
member of the all African Council of Churches (AACC) and the Middle East
Council of Churches (MECC). The Church plays an important role in the
Christian movement by conducting dialogues aiming at resolving the
theological differences with the Catholic, Greek Orthodox, Presbyterian, and
Evangelical Churches.
[...]
As a final note, the Oriental Orthodox and Eastren Orthodox did sign
a common statement of Christology, in which the heresey of Monophysitism
was condemned. So the Coptic Orthodox Church does not believe in
Monophysitism.
Peace,
Nabil
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[As I mentioned in a brief apology, the comment quoted above from me
is confused. I appear to say that Nestorius was monophysite. As
Andrew Byler correctly stated it, the Nestorians and monophysites were
actually opposite parties. The point I was making, which Nabil
explains in some detail, is that some groups that have been considered
heretical probably aren't.
Chalcedon was a compromise between two groups, the Alexandrians and
Antiochenes. It adopted language that was intended to be acceptable
to moderates in both camps, while ruling out the extremes. I agree
that there were extremes that were heretical. However in the course
of the complex politics of the time, it appears that some people got
rejected who didn't intend heresy, but simply used language that was
not understood or even was mispresented. And some seem not to have
jointed in the compromise for reasons other than doctrine. There are
groups descended from both of the supposedly heretical camps. This
posting discussed the descendants of the Alexandrians. There are also
a remaining Nestorians. Like some of the current so-called
monophysites, there is reason to believe that the current so-called
Nestorians are not heretical either. They sheltered Nestorius from
what they saw as unfair treatment, but claim they did not adopt his
heresies, and in fact seem to follow more moderate representatives of
the Antiochene tradition.
--clh]
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From: gomer+@pitt.edu (Richard J Coyle)
Subject: Re: How difficult is it to get Penguin tickets?
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
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In article <1993Apr18.201811.28965@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dmoney@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dean R Money) writes:
>The subject line says it all. Is it terribly difficult to get tickets
>to Penguins games, especially now that they are in the playoffs? Would
>it be easy to find scalpers outside of the Igloo selling tickets?
There are ALWAYS scalpers with tickets outside the Arena. You might have
to pay a few bucks extra, but you can always find them. Look on the
street under the message board, or out on the street in front of the Hyatt,
or even around Gate 1. The later you buy them, the less money you'll pay,
and during the regular season you could usually find some for near face
value or below if you wait until game time. Might be better to pick them
up earlier now, though.
rick
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From: Michael.Ameres@f204.n2603.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Ameres)
Subject: x86 ~= 680x0 ?? (How do they compare?)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/204 - Not Even Odd, Forest Hills NY
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I believe it goes or will go:
680060
powerPC
Pentium
680040
486
680030
386
680020
286=680000
In a resent article in one of the macMags I think a 50mHz 030 accelerator was
slightly slower than a 25mHz 040 accel. But, this is using a system designed
for the 030. So, It stands to reason that a system designed for an 040 ie
quadra) would do better. So overall I'd figure 040 = 030 * 2.5 or so.
Along the same lines the new POwerPC stuff is supposed to run the system
at the level of a fast quadra, but system 8 or whatever will allow 3 times the
speed of a 040 in the powerPC based systems. and wait for the 680060. I think
it laps the pentium.
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From: mabbot@stellenbos.csir.co.za (Mike Abbot)
Subject: High level language compilers for uControllers ?
Article-I.D.: stellenb.mabbot.30.0
Organization: CSIR
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.64.23.16
X-Disclaimer: None of the opions expressed herein are the official
X-Disclaimer: opinions of the CSIR or any of its subsidiaries.
X-Disclaimer: ** So don't freak out at _us_ about anything **
Howdy chaps
Has anybody got any pointers to good C, Pascal, etc compilers for
microcontrollers, shareware or otherwise ?
My specific need is for 8051 C, but if the responses are many and varied I
will post a summary.
Cheers
Mike
Mike Abbott mabbot@stellenbos.csir.co.za
Cape Town mabbot@fred.csir.co.za
South Africa
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From: timmbake@mcl.ucsb.edu (Bake Timmons)
Subject: Re: Amusing atheists and agnostics
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Maddi Hausmann chirps:
>timmbake@mcl.ucsb.edu (Bake Timmons) writes: >
>>First of all, you seem to be a reasonable guy. Why not try to be more >honest
>>and include my sentence afterwards that
>Honest, it just ended like that, I swear!
That's nice.
>Hmmmm...I recognize the warning signs...alternating polite and
>rude...coming into newsgroup with huge chip on shoulder...calls
>people names and then makes nice...whirrr...click...whirrr
You forgot the third equality...whirrr...click...whirrr...see below...
>Whirr click whirr...Frank O'Dwyer might also be contained
>in that shell...pop stack to determine...whirr...click..whirr
>"Killfile" Keith Allen Schneider = Frank "Closet Theist" O'Dwyer = ...
= Maddi "The Mad Sound-O-Geek" Hausmann
...whirrr...click...whirrr
--
Bake Timmons, III
-- "...there's nothing higher, stronger, more wholesome and more useful in life
than some good memory..." -- Alyosha in Brothers Karamazov (Dostoevsky)
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From: singg@alf.uib.no (Kurt George Gjerde)
Subject: Re: Drawing Lines (inverse/xor)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
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In article <1993Apr19.191531.15865@news.media.mit.edu>, dyoung@media.mit.edu (David Young) writes:
:
:
|> XSetFunction( myDisplay, gc, GXxor);
|> XSetForeground( myDisplay, gc, drawIndex);
|>
|> Then to draw I do:
|>
|> XDrawLine( myDisplay, XtWindow( drawingArea1), gc, x1, y1, x2, y2);
|> XFlush( myDisplay);
|>
|> And when I'm all done, to return things to normal I do:
|>
|> XSetFunction( myDisplay, gc, GXcopy);
|>
|>
|> What I'd like to happen is for the lines I draw to be the inverse of
|> whatever I'm drawing over. Instead what happens is I get white lines. If
|> the lines are over a white background - nothing shows up. If the lines are
|> over a black area - nothing shows up! It's very strange. But the GXxor
|> function seems right - since if I do a rubber-banding box, it erases and
|> redraws itself correctly (ie. not disturbing the underlying image).
|>
|> Any suggestions what I'm doing wrong?
|>
|> david
Try change the GXxor to GXequiv. I have to do this for programs that
are to run on NCD terminals (on Sun terminals I have to change it
back to GXxor)...
Kurt.
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From: dashley@wyvern.wyvern.com (Doug Ashley)
Subject: Re: SE rom
Organization: wyvern.com
Lines: 31
seanmcd@ac.dal.ca writes:
>In article <wgwC5pDL4.43y@netcom.com>, wgw@netcom.com (William G. Wright) writes:
>>
>> Anyway, I was hoping someone knowledgeable
>> about Mac internals could set me straight: is it simply
>> impossible for a mac SE to print grayscale, or could
>> someone armed with enough info and a little pro-
>> gramming experience cook something up that would
>> supplement the ROM's capabilities?
>To use the grayscale features, I believe you need a Mac equipped
>with colour quickdraw. I was told this somewhere or other, but it's
>not mentioned in "Apple Facts" (guide for apple sellers), in the
>press release or in the technical specs.
>Sean
I think you will find that the Mac SE can PRINT grayscale images, loaded
with the proper software. However, the Mac SE cannot DISPLAY grayscale on
its screen or any attached video because that ability is not in the ROM.
So, while you might be able to PRINT grayscale, you'd have a hard time
SEEING the grayscale image you want to print.
Doug
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From: healta@saturn.wwc.edu (Tammy R Healy)
Subject: Re: who are we to judge, Bobby?
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Organization: Walla Walla College
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In article <kmr4.1572.734847158@po.CWRU.edu> kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:
>From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan)
>Subject: Re: who are we to judge, Bobby?
>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1993 04:12:38 GMT
>
>(S.N. Mozumder ) writes:
>>(TAMMY R HEALY) writes:
>>>I would like to take the liberty to quote from a Christian writer named
>>>Ellen G. White. I hope that what she said will help you to edit your
>>>remarks in this group in the future.
>>>
>>>"Do not set yourself as a standard. Do not make your opinions, your views
>>>of duty, your interpretations of scripture, a criterion for others and in
>>>your heart condemn them if they do not come up to your ideal."
>>> Thoughts Fromthe Mount of Blessing p. 124
>>
>>Point?
>
> Point: you have taken it upon yourself to judge others; when only
>God is the true judge.
>
>---
>
> Only when the Sun starts to orbit the Earth will I accept the Bible.
>
>
I agree totally with you! Amen! You stated it better and in less world
than I did.
Tammy
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From: cutter@gloster.via.mind.org (cutter)
Subject: Re: NC vs Hunt (Marine Gay Bashing in Wilmington NC) verdict
Distribution: world
Organization: Gordian Knot, Gloster,GA
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jon@atlas.MITRE.org (J. E. Shum) writes:
>
> In article <C5G1su.K27@wolves.Durham.NC.US>, wolfe@wolves.Durham.NC.US (G. Wo
> > A sad day for civil rights. But typical of NC (unfortunately.)
>
> If it is typical for the principle of reasonable doubt to be upheld in
> North Carolina, then I would count that in the state's favor.
>
Reasonable doubt dates back to Human Rights. We are now in the time of
Civil Rights. Civil Rights are issued by the State with whatever strings
attached they choose as the Grantor of said rights. And if that means that
verdicts are determined by the needs of the state rather than by guilt or
innocence in a traditional sense, so be it. Being subjective rather than
objective may make it harder to anticipate what is right, and you may be
sacrificed for being wrong inadvertantly once in a while, but that really is a
small price to pay for the common good don't you think?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
cutter@gloster.via.mind.org (chris) All jobs are easy
to the person who
doesn't have to do them.
Holt's law
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From: eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf)
Subject: Happy Birthday Israel!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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Israel - Happy 45th Birthday!
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From: ncmoore2@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Nathan Moore)
Subject: Re: Bernoulli Drives/Disks...
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
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nilayp@violet.berkeley.edu (Nilay Patel) writes:
>I am looking for Bernoulli removable tapes for the 20/20 drive..
>Don't laugh ... I am serious...
>If you have any 20 MB tapes lying around that you would like to get rid of,
>please mail me ...
>-- Nilay Patel
>nilayp@violet.berkeley.edu
You do mean disks, don't you, not tapes? You forgot to say whether you
were looking for the old 8" or the newer 5.25".
Sorry, just use them at work and don't think they would appreciate it.
--
Nathan C. Moore
The Johns Hopkins University / Applied Physics Laboratory
ncmoore2@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu CIS: 70702,1576
Please note above address for email replies.
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From: robie@umbc.edu (Mr. William Robie)
Subject: IBM PC Convertible Parts 4-Sale
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
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NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc4.umbc.edu
X-Auth-User: robie
I have some used, but working, parts available for the original IBM
laptop - the PC Convertible. If you have one of these things, and
still are using it, you may have found out that IBM wants OUTRAGEOUS
prices for parts. I built up a supply of enough parts to keep mine
going for a few years, and will be willing to part with the rest.
Basically, I have all the standard parts EXCEPT:
Motherboard
Battery
Power Supply
I've got a few of the accessories, too - just ask.
These are in very limited supply, however. I've basically just cannibalized
a couple of old machines.
If you are interested, please e-mail me.
Note: For those who want to convince themselves that they are somehow
superior because they have newer and better machines, or who want to
inform me that these are "worthless junk," save your effort. I'll
just delete the note. Those of us who bought these machines when they first
came out still find them useful for word processing, etc.. I'm saving
mine as a future antique.
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From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: Keith Schneider - Stealth Poster?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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mam@mouse.cmhnet.org (Mike McAngus) writes:
>Let me see if I understand what you are saying. In order to talk
>knowledgeably about religion, Atheists must first have been so immersed
>in a religion that only the rare individual could have left.
No, you don't understand. I said that I don't think people can discuss
the subjective merits of religion objectively. This should be obvious.
People here have said that everyone would be better off without religion,
but this almost certainly isn't true.
>>But really, are you threatened by the motto, or by the people that use it?
>The motto is a tool. Let's try to take away the tool.
But, guns and axes are tools, both of which have been used for murder.
Should both be taken away? That is to say, I don't think motto misuse
warrants its removal. At least not in this case.
keith
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From: susan_soric@upubs.uchicago.edu (Susan Soric)
Subject: Wanted: Moltmann's God in Creation
Organization: Not important
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I'm greatly in need of Jurgen
Moltmann's book God in Creation:
An Ecological Doctrine of Creation.
If you have a copy you're willing to
part with, I'd love to hear from you
soon. You may call me at 312-702-
8367 or e-mail me.
Thanks.
==========================================================================================
Susan Soric
Independent agent
susan_soric@upubs.uchicago.edu
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From: ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea)
Subject: Re: OTO, the Ancient Order of Oriental Templars
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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Reply-To: ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu
In a previous article, shades@sorinc.cutler.com (Darrin A. Hyrup) says:
>They [Thelema Lodge] don't have an internet address, but they do have a CIS
>address which can be reached via uucp/internet. It is 72105,1351 so I guess
>that would be '72105.1351@cis.com' or something like that.
>
......@compuserve.com
Tony
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From: vince@sscl.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Early BBDDD Returns?
Organization: Social Science Computing Laboratory
Nntp-Posting-Host: vaxi.sscl.uwo.ca
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In article <1993Apr16.073051.9160@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st902415@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Adam Levin) writes:
> Just curious if anyone has started to standout early in the season in the
> BB DDD this year. ...
>
> A concerned fan of the BB DDD,
I am hoping to produce the first update of the BB DDD this week;
please send info about the most significant (longest, most critical,
etc.) home run that you have seen yet this season.
Vince.
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From: kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub)
Subject: Re: Albert Sabin
Reply-To: kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub)
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Lines: 30
In article <1993Apr15.225657.17804@rambo.atlanta.dg.com>, wpr@atlanta.dg.com
(Bill Rawlins) writes:
> Since you have referred to the Messiah, I assume you are referring
> to the New Testament. Please detail your complaints or e-mail if
> you don't want to post. First-century Greek is well-known and
> well-understood. Have you considered Josephus, the Jewish Historian,
> who also wrote of Jesus? In addition, the four gospel accounts
> are very much in harmony.
Bill, I find it rather remarkable that you managed to zero in on what is
probably the weakest evidence.
What is probably the most convincing is the anti-Christian literature put out
by the Jewish councils in the second century. There are enormous quantities of
detailed arguments against Christianity, many of the arguments still being used
today. Despite volumes of tracts attacking Christianity, not one denies the
existance of Jesus, only of his activities.
I find this considerably more compelling than Josephus or the harmony of the
gospels (especially considering that Matthew and Luke probably used Mark as a
source).
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From: mike@hopper.Virginia.EDU (Michael Chapman)
Subject: Compiling help
Organization: ITC/UVA Community Access UNIX/Internet Project
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I'd like to compile X11r5 on a Sony NWS-1750 running NEWS 4.1c. The
X distribution has support for this config, and the release notes say
it has been tested on the machine. BUT, also in the release notes,
nothing from Sony is listed under the supported servers. What am I
supposed to use for my r5 X server then? How can the OS be supported,
but not the hardware? Is there something in the r4 binaries that can
be used as the r5 server? These may seem like silly questions, but
I'm *really* confused.
--
mike@hopper.acs.virginia.edu
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From: naomi@rock.concert.net (Naomi T Courter)
Subject: Endometriosis
Organization: CONCERT-CONNECT -- Public Access UNIX
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can anyone give me more information regarding endometriosis? i heard
it's a very common disease among women and if anyone can provide names
of a specialist/surgeon in the north carolina research triangle park
area (raleigh/durham/chapel hill) who is familiar with the condition,
i would really appreciate it.
thanks.
--Naomi
--
Naomi L.T. Courter
Network Services Specialist
MCNC - Center for Communications
CONCERT Network
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From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: HST Servicing Mission Scheduled for 11 Days
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
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In article <1rd1g0$ckb@access.digex.net> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
>How will said re-boost be done?
>Grapple, HST, stow it in Cargo bay, do OMS burn to high altitude,
>unstow HST, repair gyros, costar install, fix solar arrays,
>then return to earth?
Actually, the reboost will probably be done last, so that there is a fuel
reserve during the EVAs (in case they have to chase down an adrift
astronaut or something like that). But yes, you've got the idea -- the
reboost is done by taking the whole shuttle up.
>My guess is why bother with usingthe shuttle to reboost?
>why not grapple, do all said fixes, bolt a small liquid fueled
>thruster module to HST, then let it make the re-boost...
Somebody has to build that thruster module; it's not an off-the-shelf
item. Nor is it a trivial piece of hardware, since it has to include
attitude control (HST's own is not strong enough to compensate for things
like thruster imbalance), guidance (there is no provision to feed gyro
data from HST's own gyros to an external device), and separation (you
don't want it left attached afterward, if only to avoid possible
contamination after the telescope lid is opened again). You also get
to worry about whether the lid is going to open after the reboost is
done and HST is inaccessible to the shuttle (the lid stays closed for
the duration of all of this to prevent mirror contamination from
thrusters and the like).
The original plan was to use the Orbital Maneuvering Vehicle to do the
reboost. The OMV was planned to be a sort of small space tug, well
suited to precisely this sort of job. Unfortunately, it was costing
a lot to develop and the list of definitely-known applications was
relatively short, so it got cancelled.
--
SVR4 resembles a high-speed collision | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
between SVR3 and SunOS. - Dick Dunn | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
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From: Derek_Juntunen@abcd.houghton.mi.us (Derek Juntunen)
Subject: Who will be #1 pick in NHL draft?
Distribution: world
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch
Lines: 8
I recently bought a pack of prospect hockey cards which had various
players that were coming into the NHL. I got this particular card of
a Russian named Viktor Kozlov. It says "many scouts believe he will
be the #1 pick in 1993". Another guy is quoted as saying "He's as
good as Mario Lemieux". Anyone know who this guy is?????
-- Via DLG Pro v0.995
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From: lemons@cadsys.enet.dec.com
Subject: Xremote into X11R6?
Reply-To: lemons@cadsys.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
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X-Newsreader: mxrn 6.18
Hi!
I remember reading (or hallucinating) that NCD's PC-Xremote functionality had
been given, by NCD, to MIT for inclusion in X11R6. Is this true? If so,
(set mode/cheap) can I just wait for X11R6 to get compressed serial line
X server support?
Thanks!
Terry Lemons
Digital Equipment Corporation
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From: throopw%sheol@concert.net
Subject: Re: Clipper considered harmful
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: From: shirriff@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff)
: Message-ID: <1r24us$oeh@agate.berkeley.edu>
: It seems likely to me that that a large subset of encrypted communications
: would be archived to tape so they could be read if sometime in the future
: probable cause arises and a warrant is obtained.
I think it is unlikely that data like this could be used in court.
Currently LEAs can install wiretaps on large numbers of phones, record
calls without listening to them, and then post-facto obtain warrants
and listen to calls after probable cause is established. But this
strategy wouldn't get the stuff admitted in court. (At least, not
in the near term.)
In other words, near as I can tell, the thing that makes such evidence
inadmissable is the interception without a warrant, not the attempt to
interpret what was intercepted without a warrant. I'd be surprised
that archiving data without consent would be interpreted as anything
but analogous to a wiretap by the courts.
Note that that doesn't mean I think it won't be done if technically
feasible. Just as I'm sure many wiretaps are done now without
warrants, just to fish for avenues to investigate. So in the future,
start surveilance, start archiving data, trump up some probable cause,
decrypt post-facto after the warrant is in hand, and the investigation
gets a boost from data that, sadly, won't ever be presented to a jury.
While I'm posting... for an interesting cautionary tale projecting this
archiving scenario to extremes, read "Lacey and his Friends", a
collection of sf stories by David Drake. The US starts down the
slippery slope by archiving *everyghing*. But don't worry folks, it's
stored in a secure repository where nobody but LEAs with warrants can
get to it. And by the way, we'll be installing cameras on all major
streets. Hey, this is nothing new, we already have cameras in banks and
teller machines, don't we?
And then we'll pass laws requiring cameras covering *all* public
places. Then in some private places. Then we'll make it a crime ever
to be out of range of a camera, except in legally licensed privacy
cubicles. Only alone. And with a thorough body search before and
after. But, see, there's still a right to privacy. We haven't
curtailed any rights, not really. And just think how much easier it'd
be to solve crimes in such a situation: just obtain a warrant, put on a
VR helmet and take a walk down memory lane.
And hey, nobody'll be tracking *you* or *me*, no need to be self-conscious.
After all, if you're not doing anything illegal...
Funny, though. While speeding and the radar detector industry became
pretty much a thing of the past, somehow all this didn't elminate all
crime in the story. And somehow, politicians got exemptions on grounds
of national security, and rich corporations got exemptions for their
execs on grounds of industrial espionage and the preservation of
competition. And not everybody was exactly happy with the system.
I can't imagine why.
--
Wayne Throop throopw%sheol@concert.net
throop%aurgate@concert.net
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From: tripper@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (andrew.r.tripp)
Subject: Airline Tickets -- O'Hare->Tuscon
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Keywords: Tickets - O'Hare->Tucson Round Tripp
Lines: 29
Two Round-Trip Tickets
O'Hare --> Tuscon
American Airlines
Good thru November
No Reasonable Offer Refused, But lets start at
$750 for both (Paid $925)
Hopefully someone can use these as I
have no use for them, and don't know a way
to get my moneys worth without going to
Tuscon again! `
E-Mail only at this time
tripper@cbnewsk.cb.att.com
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Now why would AT&T or Butler Services
have anything to do with my warped ramblings?!
Crabby-Old-Fart Mechanical/PCB Designer w/buku CAD background,
& still working on BSCS is looking for work!
Wants to take a shot at ASIC/IC Layout!!
--------------------------------------------------------------
A.R.Tripp - a.k.a. tripper@cbnewsk.cb.att.com
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From: pnelson@minnow.rutgers.edu (warmonger)
Subject: South Jersey Condo
Keywords: forsale condo jersey
Article-I.D.: minnow.Apr.6.14.09.43.1993.15566
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Lines: 37
I have recently graduated and am looking to move into a bigger house,
leaving me with a condo to sell... It was originally listed at
59,000, but is now listed at $54,900. The following is a list of
features.
Master Bedroom 14x11
Bedroom 11x10
Living Room 16x13
Dining Room 10x9
Kitchen 9x11 w/ extra cabinets
1 Full / Modern Bathroom
Full wtw carpeting /new/ excluding bath, Oil hot water heating
/converting to gas this summer/, central air, condo fee $183/mo
INCLUDING heat; hot water; landscaping; pool; tennis courts.
In addition: washer, dryer /both in condo/, refrigerator, dishwasher,
2 ceiling fans, all window treatments /I don't understand why I can't
call them curtains.../, and a mantle!
Large storage room in private basement, plenty of undesignated
parking.
If you'd like to free me for the bliss of regular homeownership,
please call Kathleen Sullivan at the Rohrer&Sayers Real Estate Agency:
609-546-0004. She'll arrange for a showing off.
Now for that disclaimer caca: Subject to errors, changes, ommissions,
withdrawls, and sales without notice.
This posting is not to benefit or at the request of any commercial
agency. I simply want out. Flames can be sent to /dev/null
Thanks,
pnelson@clam.rutgers.edu
Paul G. Nelson
Systems Hardware Integration Technician
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From: joachim@kih.no (joachim lous)
Subject: Re: XV for MS-DOS !!!
Organization: Kongsberg Ingeniorhogskole
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NNTP-Posting-Host: samson.kih.no
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
NOE-MAILADDRESS@eicn.etna.ch wrote:
> I'm sorry for...
> 1) The late of the answer but I couldn't find xv221 for msdos 'cause
> I forgot the address...but I've retrieve it..
> 2) Posting this answer here in comp.graphics 'cause I can't use e-mail,
> ^^^ not yet....
> 2) My bad english 'cause I'm a Swiss and my language is french....
^^^
If french is your language, try counting in french in stead, maybe
it will work better.... :-)
_______________________________
/ _ L* / _ / . / _ /_ "One thing is for sure: The sheep
/ _) /()(/(/)//)) /_ ()(/_) / / Is NOT a creature of the earth."
/ \_)~ (/ Joachim@kih.no / /
/_______________________________/ / -The back-masking on 'Haaden II'
/_______________________________/ from 'Exposure' by Robert Fripp.
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From: kxgst1@pitt.edu (Kenneth Gilbert)
Subject: Re: Can't Breathe
Article-I.D.: blue.7936
Lines: 23
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
David Nye (nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu) wrote:
: [reply to ron.roth@rose.com (ron roth)]
:
: >While you're right that the S vertebrae are attached to each other,
: >the sacrum, to my knowledge, *can* be adjusted either directly, or
: >by applying pressure on the pubic bone...
:
: Ron, you're an endless source of misinformation! There ARE no sacral
: vertebrae. There is a bone called the sacrum at the end of the spine.
: It is a single, solid bone except in a few patients who have a
: lumbarized S1 as a normal variant. How do you adjust a solid bone,
: break it? No, don't tell me, I don't want to know.
:
Oh come now, surely you know he only meant to measure the flow of
electromagnetic energy about the sacrum and then adjust these flows
with a crystal of chromium applied to the right great toe. Don't
you know anything?
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
= Kenneth Gilbert __|__ University of Pittsburgh =
= General Internal Medicine | "...dammit, not a programmer! =
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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From: cab@col.hp.com (Chris Best)
Subject: Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition?
Organization: your service
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NNTP-Posting-Host: hpctdkz.col.hp.com
Jason Chen writes:
> Now here is a new one: vomiting. My guess is that MSG becomes the number one
> suspect of any problem. In this case. it might be just food poisoning. But
> if you heard things about MSG, you may think it must be it.
----------
Yeah, it might, if you only read the part you quoted. You somehow left
out the part about "we all ate the same thing." Changes things a bit, eh?
You complain that people blame MSG automatically, since it's an unknown and
therefore must be the cause. It is equally (if not more) unreasonable to
defend it, automatically assuming that it CAN'T be the culprit.
Pepper makes me sneeze. If it doesn't affect you the same way, fine.
Just don't tell me I'm wrong for saying so.
These people aren't condemning Chinese food, Mr. Chen - just one of its
(optional) ingredients. Try not to take it so personally.
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From: walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh)
Subject: Re: Age of Consent == Child Molestation
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
Lines: 20
From article <C4zLJ8.Bun@queernet.org>, by rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese):
> In article <15148@optilink.COM> walsh@optilink.COM (Mark Walsh) writes:
#>NAMBLA's presence in the SF Gay Pride Parade says quite a bit.
#>It says that either the parade organizers want to show support
#>for NAMBLA, or they themselves have a fundamental misunderstanding
#>of their rights and responsibilities. I would really, really like
#>to believe the latter, but I would need some help to do so.
> There are dozens of examples of the latter; NAMBLA is an especially
> glaring one, but hardly the only one.
Perhaps, though the exclusion of the Gay Perotistas in the
SF Gay Pride Parade would make me think that they had some
clue in this regard. Dozens of examples? I don't know...
--
Mark Walsh (walsh@optilink) -- UUCP: uunet!optilink!walsh
Amateur Radio: KM6XU@WX3K -- AOL: BigCookie@aol.com -- USCF: L10861
"What, me worry?" - William M. Gaines, 1922-1992
"I'm gonna crush you!" - Andre the Giant, 1946-1993
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From: pgf5@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Garfiel Freeman)
Subject: Re: Deriving Pleasure from Death
Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: pgf5@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Garfiel Freeman)
Organization: Columbia University
Lines: 22
With regards to my condemnation of Marc's ridiculous attacks on the
American Department of Justice, and further attacks on Jews, to
anyone who took offense to my calling Marc stupid, I
apologize for pointing out the obvious. It was a waste of the
Net's time. I hope, though, that most American citizens have
the basic knowlege of the structure of American government to
understand the relationship between the Justice Department
as a part of the Executive Branch, and the Courts, which
are of the Judicial Branch.
Marc's ignorance of basic civic knowlege underscores his
inability to comprehend and interpret foreign affairs.
Peace,
Pete
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From: hfeldman@infoserv.com (Howard MITCHell Feldman)
Subject: Re: Need longer filenames
Organization: Mind's Eye, Inc.
Lines: 18
X-Mailer: TMail version 1.13
In <1993Apr19.211044.28763@guinness.idbsu.edu>, lhighley@gozer.idbsu.edu (Larry Paul Highley) wrote:
>
>
> Is there a utility out there that will let me use filenames longer than
> the standard 8.3 format. If so please email me.
please e-mail me too,
thanks
...howard
hfeldman@infoserv.com
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Howard Feldman
Mind's Eye, Inc.
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From: luriem@alleg.edu The Liberalizer (Michael Lurie)
Subject: Re: YANKKES 1 GAME CLOSER
Article-I.D.: alleg.1993Apr6.210350.2865
Organization: Allegheny College
Lines: 29
In article <002251w.5.734117130@axe.acadiau.ca> 002251w@axe.acadiau.ca
(JASON WALTER WORKS) writes:
> The N.Y.Yankees, are now one game closer to the A.L.East pennant.
They
> clobbered Cleveland, 9-1, on a fine pitching performance by Key, and two
> homeruns by Tartabull(first M.L.baseball to go out this season), and a
three
> run homer by Nokes. For all of you who didn't pick Boggs in your pools,
> tough break, he had a couple hits, and drove in a couple runs(with many
more
> to follow). The Yanks beat an up and coming team of youngsters in the
> Indians. The Yankees only need to win 95 more games to get the
division.
> GO YANKS., Mattingly for g.glove, and MVP, and Abbot for Cy Young.
>
> ---> jason.
Jason, I am going to a yankee game wed night at cleveland stadium. I am so
happy.
But Cleveland is a very bad team who lost severalrs. They were an up and
coming team, now they are just a sad excuse for a better average.
ABBOT WILL NOT WIN THE CY.!!!!!! MELIDO PEREZ WILL. as bold a prediction
as they come., Well herOT be in last place by the end of the season. Mike
lurie Speaks, and the world listens.
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From: cs89mcd@brunel.ac.uk (Michael C Davis)
Subject: Love Europe
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
Lines: 4
Are any readers of s.r.c. going to the Love Europe congress in Germany this
July?
--
Michael Davis (cs89mcd@brunel.ac.uk)
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From: saz@hook.corp.mot.com (Scott Zabolotzky)
Subject: .GIF to .BMP
Organization: Motorola, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Nntp-Posting-Host: 129.188.122.164
Lines: 12
Does anybody have any idea where I could find a program that can
convert a .GIF image into a .BMP image suitable for a Windows
wallpaper (i.e. 256 colors). Hopefully there's something out there
I can get from an ftp site somewhere...
Thanks in advance...
Scott
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From: joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Subject: Re: Shaft-drives and Wheelies
Reply-To: joe@rider.cactus.org
Distribution: rec
Organization: NOT
Lines: 9
xlyx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (From: xlyx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu) writes:
]Is it possible to do a "wheelie" on a motorcycle with shaft-drive?
yes.
--
Joe Senner joe@rider.cactus.org
Austin Area Ride Mailing List ride@rider.cactus.org
Texas SplatterFest Mailing List fest@rider.cactus.org
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Subject: Cubs mailing list
From: andrew@dark.side.of.the.moon.uoknor.edu (Chihuahua Charlie)
Distribution: usa
Organization: OU - Academic User Services
Nntp-Posting-Host: loopback.uoknor.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Lines: 14
Lines: 14
Is there anyone out there running a Chicago National
League Ballclub list? If so, please send me information
on it to...
andrew@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu
Thanks!
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From: charles@trintex.uucp (Charles Emmons)
Subject: Version control for MAC and PC LAN
Organization: Prodigy Services Co.
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We have a LAN where we are doing development on product for multiple platforms.
For the moment we are only working on MAC and DOS/Windows. The department has
always used sneaker net to transport files to the MAC, since it requires a
filter to strip out the <LF> characters.
Until recently no one concidered using any version control to mediate, and as
a result, the 5 programmers spent a great deal of time merging files together
at the end of each week so that a new system could be build. We are now trying
to streamline this process, but are hampered by the lack of software that will
allow us to share files across PC and MAC platforms.
I understand that PVCS used to do this, but that they no longer support the MAC
product (anyone know why ?? Polytron ?).
I have seen people ask about development in multiple platforms, so I assume that
ours is not a new problem. Who has had to deal with it ? What solutions have
you come up with?
thanks in advance for any and all suggestions via posting or EMAIL. If there are
enough EMAIL responses then I will post a synopsis of the knowledge.
-Charles Emmons
--
Charles Emmons | charles@trintex.uucp | These opinions are
Prodigy Services Co. | charles%trintex@uunet.uu.net | mine alone, unless
White Plains NY 10601 | Voice 914-993-8856 | you would like to
PRODIGY ID - KJRD82A | FAX 914-993-8659 | share them.
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From: blowfish@leo.unm.edu (rON.)
Subject: Re: 666, THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST, VIEWER DISCR
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
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NNTP-Posting-Host: leo.unm.edu
In article <1pr3d3$doh@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> ST002649@brownvm.brown.edu (Alex Gottschalk) writes:
>>>Well, I *WILL* do the math, and I get: (6^6)^6=2,189,739,336
>>>This mean anything to anyone? :^)
>5*1=5 thus fitting in neatly with something else.
Of course, 2+1+8+9+7+3+9+3+3+6 = 51, which, quite obviously is 23+23+5...
r.
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From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Re: Abyss: breathing fluids
Article-I.D.: access.1psghn$s7r
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA
Lines: 19
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
In article <C4t3K3.498@cck.coventry.ac.uk> enf021@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Achurist) writes:
|
|I believe the reason is that the lung diaphram gets too tired to pump
|the liquid in and out and simply stops breathing after 2-3 minutes.
|So if your in the vehicle ready to go they better not put you on
|hold, or else!! That's about it. Remember a liquid is several more times
|as dense as a gas by its very nature. ~10 I think, depending on the gas
|and liquid comparision of course!
Could you use some sort of mechanical chest compression as an aid.
Sorta like the portable Iron Lung? Put some sort of flex tubing
around the 'aquanauts' chest. Cyclically compress it and it will
push enough on the chest wall to support breathing?????
You'd have to trust your breather, but in space, you have to trust
your suit anyway.
pat
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From: wilie.wilson@analog.com ( willie wilson )
Subject: Experiences of DESQview/X?
Reply-To: willie.wilson@analog.com
Organization: Analog Devices B.V., Limerick, IRELAND
Lines: 19
I need to have PCs and SPARCstations run the same application ( namely
MicroSoft Project ). The original system ran on the PC. Now it needs to
be expanded to allow UNIX users to work with the application. The
current proposal is to use DESQview/X as a display server for the
application.
I would like to know your experiences with using DESQview/X to run an
application on a PC and displaying on a SPARCstation. I've heard that
the network traffic is slow.
Replies only by e-mail please.
Thanks, in advance.
---
,__o
_-\_<,
...Willie (*)/'(*)
willie.wilson@analog.com
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From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Moonbase race, NASA resources, why?
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
Lines: 33
In article <1993Apr21.210712.1@aurora.alaska.edu> nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu writes:
>> So how much would it cost as a private venture, assuming you could talk the
>> U.S. government into leasing you a couple of pads in Florida?
>
>Why must it be a US Government Space Launch Pad? Directly I mean...
In fact, you probably want to avoid US Government anything for such a
project. The pricetag is invariably too high, either in money or in
hassles.
The important thing to realize here is that the big cost of getting to
the Moon is getting into low Earth orbit. Everything else is practically
down in the noise. The only part of getting to the Moon that poses any
new problems, beyond what you face in low orbit, is the last 10km --
the actual landing -- and that is not immensely difficult. Of course,
you *can* spend sagadollars (saga- is the metric prefix for beelyuns
and beelyuns) on things other than the launches, but you don't have to.
The major component of any realistic plan to go to the Moon cheaply (for
more than a brief visit, at least) is low-cost transport to Earth orbit.
For what it costs to launch one Shuttle or two Titan IVs, you can develop
a new launch system that will be considerably cheaper. (Delta Clipper
might be a bit more expensive than this, perhaps, but there are less
ambitious ways of bringing costs down quite a bit.) Any plan for doing
sustained lunar exploration using existing launch systems is wasting
money in a big way.
Given this, questions like whose launch facilities you use are *not* a
minor detail; they are very important to the cost of the launches, which
dominates the cost of the project.
--
All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
- Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
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From: mprc@troi.cc.rochester.edu (M. Price)
Subject: Re: phone number of wycliffe translators UK
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Lines: 38
In <Apr.20.03.02.03.1993.3788@geneva.rutgers.edu> mserv@mozart.cc.iup.edu (Mail Server) writes:
[">"= Mark, ">>"= mp]
>> I'm concerned about a recent posting about WBT/SIL. I thought they'd
>>pretty much been denounced as a right-wing organization involved in
>>ideological manipulation and cultural interference
>Good heavens, you mean my good friend Wes Collins, who took his wife and two
>small children into the jungles of Guatemala, despite dangers from primitive
>conditions and armed guerillas, so that the indigenous people groups their
>could have the Bible in their native languages--the young man who led Bible
>studies in our church, who daily demonstrated and declared his deep abiding
>faith in the Lord of Love--you mean he really was a sneaky imperialistic *SPY*
I am sorry you find these charges amusing, Mark. I understand your
frustration though--it can be kind of scary to find your assumptions
challenged. Some of the specific cultural interference to which I refer
includes linguistic manipulation, for instance, their Tzotzil-Spanish
dictionary removed both Spanish and Tzotzil words for concepts which are
threatening to the ruling ideology, e.g., class, conquer, exploitation,
repression, revolution, and described words which can express
ideological concepts in examples like "Boss--the boss is good. He treats
us well and pays us a good wage." As some of my students would say,
"NOT!"
Your tone implies that you are unlikely to believe me--indeed, why
should you? If you are interested enough to do some further research
though, and you sound as if you are, here are some references for you.
Stoll, David. _Fishers of Men or Founders of Empire? The Wycliffe Bible
Translators in Latin America_.
_Sectas y Religiosidad en America Latina_.
_Los Angeles Times_, Dec. 11. 1977.
_Latin America Press_, May 19, 1983.
_Washington Times_, June 22, 1984.
Happy hunting.
mp
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From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Subject: Re: PHILLIES SIGN MARK DAVIS
Organization: Lehigh University
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>> Does that mean they have to pay his salary? Didn't they wait
>> for him to clear waivers? If not, why not?
>>
Davis will be paid by three clubs this year, I think the Phils are
responsbible for about $600,000 or so. They didn't wait for him to clear
waivers as three other clubs were also very interested in him. A gamble?
Yes.
>> Oh, it will? As a Royals fan, I am skeptical. They say he pitched well
>> in winter ball. He also pitched well at Omaha while with KC. He just
>> didn't pitch well (or even acceptably) when in the majors. (I don't have
>> his Atlanta stats, but he must not have impressed them very much either.)
>
>What about the year when he got 40+ saves in San Diego, did he pitch well
>then? Ok, I know he was awful the next year when he went to KC but still...
>
Won the CY Young, too, for that year.
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From: phil@howtek.MV.COM (Phil Hunt)
Subject: Re: com ports /modem/ mouse conflict -REALLY?
Organization: Howtek, Inc.
Reply-To: phil@howtek.MV.COM (Phil Hunt)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2
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In article <1993Apr11.120848.493@wnbbs.nbg.sub.org> (comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,alt.msdos.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,uw.pc.general,uw.pc.ibm,misc.forsale.computers.d,comp.dcom.modems,), oli@wnbbs.nbg.sub.org (Oliver Duesel) writes:
] Hi there,
]
] yuri@windy.Berkeley.EDU (Yuri Yulaev) writes:
]
] : I have 1s/1p/1g I/O card in my 386/40 PC.
] : When I plug in wang modem at com4,it works. If I change
] : it to com1- it doesn't.
] : Program "chkport" gives diagnostics like "possible com /irq
] : conflict at com1" (with mouse driver in memory).
]
] Since your IO-card only has one serial port - this should default to COM1 ?
] Under MS-DOS, you can't share IRQ's - so you'll have to set either your modem
] or your mouse to COM2 ... using different adresses and IRQ's.
] When you set two 'devices' onto the same IRQ - like COM1 and COM3 (or 2 and 4)
] - the 'latter' one will always win, i.e. if you have your mouse on COM1 and
] start using your modem on COM3, your modem should work - but your mouse will
] stop doing so, until reboot.
]
] It should be no problem, setting your modem to COM2 ? (you didn't write
] anything about other peripherals ...)
]
] I hope, it helped a bit .... By(t)e, Oli.
]
]
Hi,
I'm kind of new at the pc stuff. My machine has 4 serial ports. Com 1 and3
and 2 &4 share same IRQs. You mean I can't plug a mouse into Com1 and a modem
into com3 and expect both to work?
If Answer is NO, should I change IRQ's for com ports to be different? And,
does it really matter which IRQ I set the ports too?
Phil
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Howtek, Inc.
Internet: phil@howtek.MV.COM uucp: {decvax|harvard}!mv!howtek!phil
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From: julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Reasons Not to Aid Russians
Nntp-Posting-Host: eddie.jpl.nasa.gov
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Lines: 12
In article <C50FnH.Cvo@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes:
> [With a tip of the hat to David Letterman for making the Top Ten format
> so popular]
>
>Top Ten Reasons that Conservatives don't want to aid Russia:
<looking around> Who? Where?
Don't look at me. I want to send aid to Russia. Many other
conservatives do as well.
Julie
DISCLAIMER: All opinions here belong to my cat and no one else
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From: ARowatt@massey.ac.nz (A.J. Rowatt)
Subject: Page flipping in VGA 320x200x256 mode.
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
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Help!
How do you write to the second bank/page of memory when in VGA
320x200x256 colour mode?. ie: to perform page flipping animation
and buffering of the screen.
I have tried using the Map Mask Registers, but this does not
perform the required task (Although it does do something).
Note: It *must* be able to work on a standard VGA (ie: not
necessarily a SVGA card).
Many thanx in advance...
Andrew
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From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Subject: Re: MOW BODYCOUNT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Lines: 17
NNTP-Posting-Host: zion.berkeley.edu
> Any thoughts on who is going to count all of the gorgeous bodies at
> the MOW? The press? The White House Staff? The most Junior
> Senator? The King of the motss/bi?
> Just curious as to whose bias we are going to see when the numbers
> get brought out.
Probably, law enforcement people (Park Service Police and D.C. cops),
who will use aerial photographs and extrapolate based on the
density of the crowd in small regions.
These sort of techniques derive from Army Intelligence and CIA
methods of estimating troop strength, and tend to be
methodologically skewed to always come up with inflated numbers,
so as to justify bigger budgets.
Steve
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From: kozloce@wkuvx1.bitnet
Subject: Re: Atlanta Hockey Hell!!DIR
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY
Lines: 18
> Someone give SportChannel a call (or maybe Ted Turner).
> Wasn't USA network covering the playoffs years ago?
>
> Jim G.
Oh to be back in the good old days when I lived in Florida (Florida for
Petes sake!!) and could watch hockey every night as ESPN and USA alternated
coverage nights. Oh well I guess it would be too simple for the home office
to look back into their past to solve a problem in the present...
Of course I shouldn't complain. At least I'm getting to watch the playoffs
for a change. (Hooray!!) Now if the ESPN schedulers will realise there are
other teams except Pittsberg in the Patrick. (Sounds like a Dr Suess Book
=)
KOZ
LETS GO CAPS!!
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From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: Krillean Photography
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Lines: 20
Living things maintain small electric fields to (1) enhance certain
chemical reactions, (2) promote communication of states with in a cell,
(3) communicate between cells (of which the nervous system is a specialized
example), and perhaps other uses. These electric fields change with location
and time in a large organism. Special photographic techniques such as applying
external fields in Kirillian photography interact with these fields or the resistances
caused by these fields to make interesting pictures. Perhaps such pictures will
be diagonistic of disease problems in organisms when better understood. Perhaps not.
Studying the overall electric activity of biological systems is several hundred
years old, but not a popular activity. Perhaps, except in the case of a few
tissues like nerves and the electric senses of fishes, it is hard to reduce the
investigation into small pieces that can be clearly analyzed. There are some
hints that manipulating electric fields is a useful therapy such as speeding
the healing of broken bones, but not understood why.
Bioelectricity has a long association with mysticism. Ideas such as Frankenstein
reanimation go back to the most early electrical experiments on tissue such as
when Volta invented the battery. I personally don't care to revert to supernatural
cause to explain things we don't yet understand.
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From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Subject: Re: *** The list of Biblical contradictions
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco
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hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr) writes:
>bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) writes:
>
>>Specifically: when I bring up the fact that Genesis contains two
>>contradictory creation stories, I usually get blank stares or flat
>>denials. I've never had a fundamentalist acknowledge that there are
>>indeed two different accounts of creation.
>
>That is because two creation stories is one of the worst examples of
>a difficulty with the Bible. "were formed" can also be translated "had been
>formed" in chapter two without any problems. So the text does not demand
>that there are two creation stories.
Really? I don't get it... Genesis first says that God created the
earth, then the animals, then humans; then it turns around and says
that humans were created before animals! How can you escape this
contradiction?
--
_/_/_/ Brian Kendig Je ne suis fait comme aucun
/_/_/ bskendig@netcom.com de ceux que j'ai vus; j'ose croire
_/_/ n'etre fait comme aucun de ceux qui existent.
/ The meaning of life Si je ne vaux pas mieux, au moins je suis autre.
/ is that it ends. -- Rousseau
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From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: New Environmental Group Launches.
In-Reply-To: eoneill@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of Sun, 4 Apr 93 23:02:33 GMT
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
Lines: 17
*Teddy O'Neill-Creature with furry Hobbit feet from Bath UK*,
a sentimental fool, posts:
With the force of a world-wide youth movement, it ought to
be possible to establish a coordinated global program to
accomplish the strategic goal of completely eliminating the
internal combustion engine over, say, a twenty year period.
Evidently there are no open questions, either scientific or about
how people prefer to live.
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
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From: mwhaefne@infonode.ingr.com (Mark W. Haefner)
Subject: Re: "Accepting Jesus in your heart..."
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
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>
>> Religion (especially Christianity) is nothing more than a DRUG.
>> Some people use drugs as an escape from reality. Christians inject
>> themselves with jeezus and live with that high.
Why would you say "especially Christianity"?
Mark
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From: dpassage@soda.berkeley.edu (David G. Paschich)
Subject: Re: HBP? BB? BIG-CAT?
Organization: Organization? Who cares? You just gotta say "Go Bears!"
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Distribution: na
<1qv9psINNsj6@lynx.unm.edu> <C5r7tv.36s@odin.corp.sgi.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: kubey@sgi.com's message of Mon, 19 Apr 1993 23:27:29 GMT
In article <C5r7tv.36s@odin.corp.sgi.com> kubey@sgi.com (Ken Kubey) writes:
I suppose a foul ball machine (like Brett Butler) is pretty valuable,
but I'd rather watch (and root for) the lower OBP guys who can
actually hit the ball.
And I'd rather watch (and root for) a team that scores lots of runs
and wins games.
Of course, I'm rooting for the Rockies and Andres anyway. But that's
for irrational hometown reaons. I also root for Frank Thomas. :)
David Paschich
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From: wallacen@CS.ColoState.EDU (nathan wallace)
Subject: Level 5
Reply-To: wallacen@CS.ColoState.EDU
Nntp-Posting-Host: sor.cs.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State University -=- Computer Science Dept.
Lines: 15
According to a Software engineering professor here, what was actually rated
level five was an ibm unit which produced part of the software for the shuttle,
by not means all of it.
Interesting note: 90% of the software development groups surveyed were at
level 1. The ibm shuttle groups was the *only* one at level 5!
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From: leapman@austin.ibm.com (Scott Leapman)
Subject: Re: Half-page hand scanners?
Originator: leapman@junior.austin.ibm.com
Reply-To: $LOGIN@austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Austin
Lines: 8
I have a Lightening Scan Pro 256 hand scanner. It came with scanning/editing
software, OCR software, and some plug-in modules for Photoshop et al. The
scanner was a tad on the pricey side ($480), but the scans are incredibly
accurate, in 256 level, 300 dpi grayscale. It also has dithered and line art
settings when grayscale isn't desired. Great scanning software, easy to use. I
frequently write letters to my neices, and spontaneouly include a scanned image
in the note. Hope this helps!
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From: gpb@gpb-mac (greg berryman )
Subject: Re: Memory upgrades
Nntp-Posting-Host: 222.1.248.85
Reply-To: gpb@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com
Organization: Memories at Motorola
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
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jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (nga throgaw shaygiy) writes:
:
: Excuse me if this is a frequent question, I checked in
: several FAQs but couldn't really find anything.
You are excused... the answer varies from Mac to Mac so it would be
a complex answer in the FAQ.
:
: I have a IIsi with the standard 5 meg memory and I want
: (need) to add additional memory. But I'm on a budget.
: I really don't need more than 10 meg max, so what is
: the best (performance wise) and most economical way
: to do this? Someone told me that I should only use
: SIMMs of the same amount of memory, that is 4 1 meg,
: 4 2 meg, etc. What if I just wanted to buy just 1 4 meg
: and use the rest of what I already have? The manual
: hasn't been very helpful with this.
:
The si uses a 32 bit wide data bus and therefore you must use 4 8-bit
wide simms. Sorry, but no short cuts here.
: Thanks.
You're quite welcome.
:
Greg.
--
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gpb@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com * \ BI / * I will NOT ride in the back of the bus.
Greg Berryman (512)928-6014 * \ / * SILENCE = DEATH
Motorola Austin, Texas, USA * \/ * First, be true to yourself.
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From: bcash@crchh410.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Brian Cash)
Subject: Re: A visit from the Jehovah's Witnesses
Nntp-Posting-Host: crchh410
Organization: BNR, Inc.
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In article <1993Apr2.115300.803@batman.bmd.trw.com>, jbrown@batman.bmd.trw.com writes:
|> In article <C4twso.8M2@HQ.Ileaf.COM>, mukesh@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Mukesh Prasad) writes:
|> > In article <1993Apr1.142854.794@batman.bmd.trw.com> jbrown@batman.bmd.trw.com writes:
|> >> In article <1p8v1aINN9e9@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, strat@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis) writes:
|> >> > bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) writes:
|> >> >
|> >> >>- The Earth is evil because Satan rules over it.
|> >> >
|> >> > This is a new one to me. I guess it's been a while since a Witness
|> >> > bothered with me. Are they implying that Satan is omniscient? You
|> >> > might try tricking them into saying that Satan is 'all-knowing' and
|> >> > then use that statement to show them how their beliefs are
|> >> > self-contradictary.
|> >>
|> >> No, Satan is not omniscient, but he does hold dominion over the earth
|> >> according to Christian theology (note, not to be confused with JW's
|> >> theology).
|> >>
|> >
|> > What are the standard theologies on who/what created Satan,
|> > and why?
|> >
|>
|> Orthodox Christian theology states that God created Lucifer (Satan)
|> along with the other angels, presumably because He wanted beings to
|> celebrate (glorify) existence and life (and thereby, God) along with
|> Him. Actually the whys and wherefores of God's motivations for
|> creating the angels are not a big issue within Christian theology.
|>
|> But God created Lucifer with a perfect nature and gave him along with
|> the other angels free moral will. Lucifer was a high angel (perhaps
|> the highest) with great authority. It seems that his greatness caused
|> him to begin to take pride in himself and desire to be equal to or
|> greater than God. He forgot his place as a created being. He exalted
|> himself above God, and thereby evil and sin entered creation.
Actually, the story goes that Lucifer refused to bow before MAN as
God commanded him to. Lucifer was devoted to God.
Oh yeah, there is nothing in Genesis that says the snake was anything
more than a snake (well, a talking one...had legs at the time, too).
I don't think pointing out contradictions in STORIES is the best way
to show the error in theology: if they think a supernatural entity
kicked the first humans out of paradise because they bit into a
fruit that gave them special powers...well, they might not respond
well to reason and logic. :^)
Brian /-|-\
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From: neale@ee.rochester.edu (Reg Neale)
Subject: Pioneer Laser player
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science
Lines: 5
I'm trying to figure out how to operate a Pioneer Laserdisc LD-1000 that I bought at a surplus store. It is reputedly from some kind of computerised viewing
and/or ordering system. THere is what may be an HPIB connector on the back. When
I power it up, the front panel power light comes on, but no activity, and the
door doesn't open. Anyone have any experience with this unit or any ideas on how
to obtain documentation?
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From: VEAL@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Subject: Re: National Sales Tax, The Movie
Lines: 66
Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education
In article <1993Apr16.164750.21913@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>In article <9304151442.AA05233@inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com> blh@uiboise.idbsu.edu (Broward L. Horne) writes:
>> Well, it seems the "National Sales Tax" has gotten its very
>
>> own CNN news LOGO!
>>
>> Cool. That means we'll be seeing it often.
>>
>> Man, I sure am GLAD that I quit working ( or taking this
>> seriously ) in 1990. If I kept busting my ass, watching
>> time go by, being frustrated, I'd be pretty DAMN MAD by
>> now.
>>
>> I just wish I had the e-mail address of total gumby who
>> was saying that " Clinton didn't propose a NST ".
>>
>
>Actually, Jerry Brown essentially did...and Clinton, in his demagogue
>persona, condemned Brown for it in the crucial NY primary last year.
>
>However....
>
>Why don't the Republicans get their act together, and say they
>will support a broad-based VAT that would have to be visible
>(the VAT in Canada is visible unlike the invisible VATS they
>have in Europe)
>and suggest a rate sufficient to halve income and corporate
>and capital gains tax rates and at a rate sufficient to give
>the Clintons enough revenue for their health care reform,
The Republicans are, in general, fighting any tax increase.
There is also worry that a VAT would be far too easy to increase
incrementally.
(BTW, what is different between Canada's tax and most of
Europe's that makes it "visible?")
>and
>force an agreement with the Democrats that the top income tax
>rate would then be frozen for the forseeable future and could
>be increased only via a national referendum.
This would require a constitutional amendment, and Congress
enjoys raising taxes too much to restrict themselves like that.
(Besides, with the 2/3 majority necessary to pull that off you'd
have a difficult time "forcing" anything like that.)
>Why not make use of the Clintons to do something worthwhile...
>shift the tax burden from investment to consumption, and get
>health care reform, and a frozen low top marginal tax rate
>all in one fell swoop.
Primarily because it's a practical impossibility to "freeze"
tax rates.
However, this is something that bothers me. We're always talking
about "consumer confidence" and "consumer spending" as gauges for the
economy. If they really are important, wouldn't shifting taxes to
consumption provide a disincentive to spend money?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Veal Univ. of Tenn. Div. of Cont. Education Info. Services Group
PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu - "I still remember the way you laughed, the day
your pushed me down the elevator shaft; I'm beginning to think you don't
love me anymore." - "Weird Al"
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From: cook@varmit.mdc.com (Layne Cook)
Subject: Lindbergh and the moon (was:Why not give $1G)
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM
Lines: 19
Distribution: world
Reply-To: cook@varmit.mdc.com (Layne Cook)
NNTP-Posting-Host: cook.mdc.com
All of this talk about a COMMERCIAL space race (i.e. $1G to the first 1-year
moon base) is intriguing. Similar prizes have influenced aerospace
development before. The $25k Orteig prize helped Lindbergh sell his Spirit of
Saint Louis venture to his financial backers.
If memory serves, the $25k prize would not have been enough to totally
reimburse some of the more expensive transatlantic projects (such as
Fokker's, Nungesser and other multi-engine projects). However Lindbergh
ultimately kept his total costs below that amount.
But I strongly suspect that his Saint Louis backers had the foresight to
realize that much more was at stake than $25,000.
Could it work with the moon? Who are the far-sighted financial backers of
today?
Layne Cook
cook@apt.mdc.com
McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Co.
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From: DPierce@world.std.com (Richard D Pierce)
Subject: Re: Some Recent Observations by Hubble
Keywords: HST, Pluto, Uranus
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Lines: 13
In article <15APR199316461058@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov> baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) writes:
>Here are some recent observations taken by the Hubble Space Telescope:
>
> o Observations were made using the High Speed Photometer of the Planet
> Uranus during an occultation by a faint star in Capricornus.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wow! I knew Uranus is a long way off, but I didn't think it was THAT far away!
--
| Dick Pierce |
| Loudspeaker and Software Consulting |
| 17 Sartelle Street Pepperell, MA 01463 |
| (508) 433-9183 (Voice and FAX) |
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From: jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni)
Subject: Re: Investment in Yehuda and Shomron
Organization: The Department of Redundancy Department
Lines: 12
In article <1993Apr18.183148.4802@das.harvard.edu> adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack) writes:
> I think "house Jews," a reference to a person of Jewish
>ancestry who issues statements for a company or organization that
>condemn Judaism is perfectly sufficeint.
I believe that CPR is himself such a "house Jew".
--
Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Ten years from now, George Bush will
American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
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From: aldridge@netcom.com (Jacquelin Aldridge)
Subject: Re: Teenage acne
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 57
pchurch@swell.actrix.gen.nz (Pat Churchill) writes:
>My 14-y-o son has the usual teenage spotty chin and greasy nose. I
>bought him Clearasil face wash and ointment. I think that is probably
>enough, along with the usual good diet. However, he is on at me to
>get some product called Dalacin T, which used to be a
>doctor's-prescription only treatment but is not available over the
>chemist's counter. I have asked a couple of pharmacists who say
>either his acne is not severe enough for Dalacin T, or that Clearasil
>is OK. I had the odd spots as a teenager, nothing serious. His
>father was the same, so I don't figure his acne is going to escalate
>into something disfiguring. But I know kids are senstitive about
>their appearance. I am wary because a neighbour's son had this wierd
>malady that was eventually put down to an overdose of vitamin A from
>acne treatment. I want to help - but with appropriate treatment.
>My son also has some scaliness around the hairline on his scalp. Sort
>of teenage cradle cap. Any pointers/advice on this? We have tried a
>couple of anti dandruff shampoos and some of these are inclined to
>make the condition worse, not better.
>Shall I bury the kid till he's 21 :)
:) No...I was one of the lucky ones. Very little acne as a teenager. I
didn't have any luck with clearasil. Even though my skin gets oily it
really only gets miserable pimples when it's dry.
Frequent lukewarm water rinses on the face might help. Getting the scalp
thing under control might help (that could be as simple as submerging under
the bathwater till it's softened and washing it out). Taking a one a day
vitamin/mineral might help. I've heard iodine causes trouble and that it
is used in fast food restaurants to sterilize equipment which might be
where the belief that greasy foods cause acne came from. I notice grease
on my face, not immediately removed will cause acne (even from eating
meat).
Keeping hair rinse, mousse, dip, and spray off the face will help. Warm
water bath soaks or cloths on the face to soften the oil in the pores will
help prevent blackheads. Body oil is hydrophilic, loves water and it
softens and washes off when it has a chance. That's why hair goes limp with
oilyness.
Becoming convinced that the best thing to do with
a whitehead is leave it alone will save him days of pimple misery. Any
prying of black or whiteheads can cause infections, the red spots of
pimples. Usually a whitehead will break naturally in a day and there won't
be an infection afterwards.
Tell him that it's normal to have some pimples but the cosmetic industry
makes it's money off of selling people on the idea that they are an
incredible defect to be hidden at any cost (even that of causing more pimples).
-Jackie-
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From: db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler)
Subject: The Nicene Creed (was Re: MAJOR VIEWS OF THE TRINITY)
Organization: Freshman, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 152
Michael Bushnell writes;
>The so-called Creed of Athanasius, however, has always been a Western
>creed, and has always had the filioque. The Orthodox have said that
>they accept all that it says, with the exception of the filioque, but
>it is not "in use."
Which is exactly what I pointed out. (Though I was wrong about your use
of the Creed, the 1913 Catholic Encylcopedia in which I read about it
said the Orthodox do use the Creed minus the filioque. Apparently that
has changed.) The Athanasian Creed has always had the Filioque, the
Nicene - Constantinopolitan did not.
Of course the Orthodox did not delete the Filioque from the Nicene
Creed (it wasn't there to begin with), but they certainly did from the
Athanasian Creed, which did have it from the beginning.
I might point out that the whole problem started over the difference in
ways of explaining the generation of the Blessed Trinity, the East
emphasizing the idea of the Holy Spirit proceeding from the Father
through the Son, and the West using proceeding from the Father and the
Son. In fact, some, such as Tertullian, used both formulations (see
below)
"Following, therefore, the form of these examples, I profess that I do
call God and His Word, - the Father and and His Son, - two. For the
root and the stem are two things, but conjoined; the fountain and the
river are two kinds, but indivisible; the sun and the ray are two forms,
but coherent ones. Anything which proceeds from another must
necessarily be a second to that from which it proceeds; but it is not on
that account separated from it. Where there is second, however, there
are two; and where ther is third, there are three. The Spirit, then, is
third from God and the Son, just as the third from the root is the fruit
of the stem, and third from the fountain is the stream from the river,
and thrid from the sun is the apex of the ray."
-Tertullian, Against Praxeas, 8, 5 (about 213 AD)
and
"I believe that the Spirit proceeds not otherwise than from the Father
through the Son"
-Tertullian, Against Praxeas, 4, 1 (about 213 AD)
And as St. Thomas showed in his Summa Theologica Part 1, Question 36,
Articles 2 and 3, there is no contradiction between the two methods of
generation, and in fact, the two methods of reckoning the procession
emphasize what St. Augustine, among others taught, that the Holy Spirit
proceeds from the Father and the Son, but He proceeds from the Father in
a more preeminent way.
"For whatever the Son has, He has from the Father, certainly He has it
from the Father that the Holy Spirit proceeds from Him ... For the
Father alone is not from another, for which reason He alone is called
unbegotten, not, indeed, in the Scriptures, but in the practice of
theologians, and of those who employ such terms as they are able in a
matter so great. The Son, however, is born of the Father; and the Holy
Spirit proceeds principally from the Father, and since the Father gives
to the Son all that He has without any interval of time, the Holy Spirit
proceeds jointly from both Father and Son. He would be called Son of
the Father and of the Son if, which is abhorent to everyone of sound
mind, they had both begotten Him. The Spirit was not begotten by each,
however, but proceeds from each and both."
-St. Augustine of Hippo, The Trinity, 15, 26, 47 (400 to 416 AD)
So, in a sense, all of the formulations are correct (to the West at
least), because the Holy Spirit proceeds from both Father and Son, but
in proceeding from the Son, the orgin of that procession is the
procession from the Father, so the Holy Spirit is proceeding from the
Father through the Son, but as all that the Son has is from the Father,
the Holy Spirit can be said to proceed from the Father, without any
mention of the Son being necessary.
In any case, I am happy to know that I follow in the beliefs of Pope
St. Leo I, St. Fulgence of Ruspe, St. Cyril of Alexandria, Pope St.
Damsus I, St. Augustine of Hippo, St. Epiphanius of Salamis, St. Ambrose
of Milan, St. Hilary of Poitiers, Tertullian, and others among the
Fathers, who all have very quotable quotes supporting the Catholic
position, which I enunciated above.
As for the issue of the adoption of another Creed being forbidden, I
will point out that the Holy Fathers of Ephesus and Chalcedon both spoke
of the Creed of Nicea in their statement forbidding anyone "to produce,
write, or compose a confession of faith other than the one defined by
the Fathers of Nicea." That Creed is a different Creed than that of
Constantinople, which is commonly called the Nicene Creed. Not of
course in that they were condemning the adoption of the
Constantinopolitan Creed, which is but an enlargement upon the Creed of
Nicea, but that they were condemning the impious opinions of Nestorious,
who had adopted a radically different Creed from the one used by the
Church, which among other things denied the procession of the Holy
Spirit form the Son. Thus, the additions of the Constantinopolitan
Creed were not thought to be in violation of this, and as the Council
Chalcedon also affirmed the doctrine of the procession of the Holy
Spirit from the Son, which Nestorius denied, they could hardly have been
against explaining in a fuller way the Creed, for they themselves
approved of previous additions to it. And if the further explanations
of the Creed made in Constantinople were not denigrating of the work
done by the Holy Fathers of Nicea or in any way heretical, it follows
that the Council of Toledo was fully able to add what was not disputed
by the faithful to the Creed so as to combat the impieties of the Arians
in Spain, because the filioque was not in dispute in the Church until
many years later under Photius and others. And that the filioque was
not disputed, I provide more quotes below.
"Since the Holy Spirit when he is in us effects our being conformed to
God, and he actually proceeds from the Father and Son, it is abundantly
clear that He is of the divine essence, in it in essence and proceeding
from it."
-St. Cyril of Alexandria, The Treasury of the Holy and Consubstantial
Trinity, Thesis 34, (423-425 AD)
"The Holy Spirit is not of the Father only, or of the Son only, but he
is the Spirit of the Father and the Son. For it is written: `If anyone
loves the world, the Spirit of the Father is not in him'; and again it
is written: `If anyone, however, does not have the Spirit of Christ, he
is none of His.' When the Father and the Son are named in this way, the
Holy Spirit is understood, of whom the Son himself says in the Gospel,
that the Holy Spirit `proceeds from the Father,' and that `He shall
receive of mine and shall announce it to you.'"
-Pope St. Damasus I, The Decree of Damasus, 1 (382 AD)
"The only-begotten Holy Spirit has neither the name of the Son nor the
appelation of Father, but is called Holy Spirit, and is not foreign to
the Father. For the Only-begotten Himself calls Him: `the Spirit of the
Father,' and says of Him the `He proceeds from the Father,' and `will
receive of mine,' so that He is reckoned as not being foreign to the
Son, but is of their same substance, of the same Godhead; He is Spirit
divine, ... of God, and He is God. For he is Spirit of God, Spirit of
the Father, and Spirit of the Son, not by some kind of synthesis, like
soul and body in us, but in the midst of Father and Son of the Father
and of the Son, a third by appelation....
"The Father always existed and the Son always existed, and the Spirit
breathes from the Father and the Son; and neither is the Son created nor
is the Spirit created."
-St. Epiphanius of Salamis (which is on Cyprus), The Man Well-Anchored,
8 and 75 (374 AD)
"Concerning the Holy Spirit, I ought not to remain silent, nor yet is
it necessary to speak. Still, on account of those who do not know Him,
it is not possible for me to be silent. However it is necessary to
speak of Him who must be acknowledged, who is from the Father and the
Son, His Sources."
-St. Hilary of Poitiers, The Trintiy, 2, 29 (356 to 359 AD)
Thus, as I have pointed out before, Gaul, Spain, Italy, Africa, Egypt,
Palastine, and the lands of the Greeks, all of Christnedom at that time,
all have Fathers who can be cited to show that they confess the doctrine
expressed by the filioque. I suggest to those of the Orthodox Church
that they come up with some of the Fathers, besides St. John of Damascus
who all will admit denied the filioque, to support their views. It is
not enough to bring up the "proceeds from the Father" line of the Creed
or the Gospel of John, for that says what we believe also. But it does
not say the Holy Spirit does not proceed from the Son, only that He does
proceed from the Father.
Andy Byler
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From: tmcconne@sedona.intel.com (Tom McConnell~)
Subject: Re: Motif vs. [Athena, etc.]
Organization: Intel Corporation
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In article <C5K6ny.AzJ@kirk.bu.oz.au>, bambi@kirk.bu.oz.au (David J. Hughes) writes:
> berry@durian.citr.uq.oz.au (Andrew Berry) writes:
>
> Ports of Motif to both 386BSD and Linux are available for a fee of about
> $100. This is cost recovery for the person who bought the rights to
> redistribute. The activity in both the BSD and Linux news groups
> pertaining to Motif has been high.
>
>
> >I just wonder if this will also cause a divergence between commercial
> >and non-commercial software (ie. you will only get free software using
> >Athena or OpenLook widget sets, and only get commercial software using
> >the Motif widget sets).
>
>
> I can't see why. If just about every workstation will come with Motif
> by default and you can buy it for under $100 for the "free" UNIX
> platforms, I can't see this causing major problems.
Let me add another of my concerns: Yes, I can buy a port of Motif for "cheap",
but I cannot get the source for "cheap", hence I am limited to using whatever X
libraries the Motif port was compiled against (at least with older versions of
Motif. I have been told that Motif 1.2 can be used with any X, but I have not
seen it myself).
Currently, I have X11R5 running on eight different unix platforms, of which
only three came with Motif. On those three, I am unable to use the X11R5
libraries to build Motif clients, because I get link errors between the
vendor-supplied port of Motif and my X11R5. I anticipate having this same
problem when X11R6 becomes available.
The result is that I cannot build Motif clients that rely on X11R5, since I do
not have Motif compiled under X11R5. True, I could buy another port of Motif,
but that sort of ruins the whole idea of "free", doesn't it?
Cheers,
Tom McConnell
--
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Intel, Corp. C3-91 | Phone: (602)-554-8229
5000 W. Chandler Blvd. | The opinions expressed are my own. No one in
Chandler, AZ 85226 | their right mind would claim them.
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From: lau@aerospace.aero.org (David Lau)
Subject: Re: Accelerating the MacPlus...;)
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Also, if someone would recommend another
> accelerator for the MacPlus, I'd like to hear about it.
>
> Thanks for any time and effort you expend on this!
>
> Karl
Try looking at the Brainstorm Accelerator for the Plus. I believe it is
the best solution because of the performance and price. Why spend $800
upgrading a computer that is only worth $300 ????
The brainstorm accelerator is around $225. It speeds up the internal
clock speed to 16MHz. That may not seem like much but it also speeds up
SCSI transfers. I think that feature is unique to brainstorm.
Check it out.
David Lau
lau@aerospace.aero.org
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From: riggs@descartes.etl.army.mil (Bill Riggs)
Subject: Re: hard times investments was: (no subject given)
Organization: LNK Corporation, Riverdale, MD
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In article <1pkvcl$nu0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> an030@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Broward Horne) writes:
>
>In a previous article, riggs@descartes.etl.army.mil (Bill Riggs) says:
>
>>so much land, and in the long run, we have a zero sum game going. Someone,
>>somewhere, is going to make a killing from nosediving real estate
>>markets. The worst thing to do is panic. The best thing you can do is
>>to ride out deflation to the end. It hurts, but you're better off
>>than if you sell short and donate to someone else's inheritance.
>
>
> Sad. Paradigm Shift is coming, chum.
> Ride the WAVE!
I don't believe in the "Wave Theory".
>
> " There's only so much land ". Oh, God, is this Mike Zimmer's
> replacement?!
My mother-in-law, who grew up in Germany, doesn't believe in
money at all. She started out as a real estate developer, and now raises
horses. She keeps telling me that inflation is coming back, and to lock
in my fixed rate mortgage as low as possible.
>
> Here, let me spell it out for you.
>
> Can you spell TWO TRILLION DOLLAR BANK BAILOUT?
Maybe you'd like to invest in some foreign currency.
Which one would you guess to come out on top ?
(Sigh - speculators never learn.)
Bill R.
--
"The only proposals in the Senate that I "My opinions do not represent
have seen fit to mention are particularly those of my employer or
praiseworthy or particularly scandalous ones. any government agency."
It seems to me that the historian's foremost - Bill Riggs
duty is to ensure that virtue is remembered,
and to deter evil words and deeds with the
fear of posterity's damnation."
- Tacitus, _Annals_ III. 65
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Subject: Re: Principle_of_the_Breathalyzer
From: srgxnbs@grace.cri.nz
Organization: Industrial Research Ltd., New Zealand.
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In NZ apparently things like aftershave are also giving positive
readings
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From: cs1442aq@news.uta.edu (cs1442aq)
Subject: Ryam out for 2-5 weeks!!
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
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Nolan Ryan has torn cartlidge inhis right knee. Is having surgery and
is expected to miss 2-5 weeks.
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From: sandy47@cats.ucsc.edu ()
Subject: Wargames/magazines Forsale
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Discounts! Please take $2.00 off each item over $10.00
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From: bob@black.ox.ac.uk (Bob Douglas)
Subject: Re: Sphere from 4 points?
Organization: Oxford University Computing Service, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford, U
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Originator: bob@black
In article <2406@hcrlgw92.crl.hitachi.co.jp> steve@hcrlgw (Steven Collins) writes:
>In article <1qkgbuINNs9n@shelley.u.washington.edu> bolson@carson.u.washington.edu (Edward Bolson) writes:
>>Boy, this will be embarassing if it is trivial or an FAQ:
>>
>>Given 4 points (non coplanar), how does one find the sphere, that is,
>>center and radius, exactly fitting those points? I know how to do it
>>for a circle (from 3 points), but do not immediately see a
>>straightforward way to do it in 3-D. I have checked some
>>geometry books, Graphics Gems, and Farin, but am still at a loss?
>>Please have mercy on me and provide the solution?
>
>Wouldn't this require a hyper-sphere. In 3-space, 4 points over specifies
>a sphere as far as I can see. Unless that is you can prove that a point
>exists in 3-space that is equi-distant from the 4 points, and this may not
>necessarily happen.
>
>Correct me if I'm wrong (which I quite possibly am!)
>
>steve
Sorry!! :-)
Call the four points A, B, C and D. Any three of them must be
non-collinear (otherwise all three could not lie on the surface
of a sphere) and all four must not be coplaner (otherwise either
they cannot all lie on a sphere or they define an infinity of them).
A, B and C define a circle. The perpendicular bisectors of AB, BC
and CA meet in a point (P, say) which is the centre of this circle.
This circle must lie on the surface of the desired sphere.
Consider the normal to the plane ABC passing through P. All points
on this normal are equidistant from A, B and C and its circle (in
fact it is a diameter of the desired sphere). Take the plane
containing this normal and D (if D lies on the normal any
plane containing the normal will do); this plane is at right angles
to the ABC one.
Let E be the point (there are normally two of them) on the circumference
of the ABC circle which lies in this plane. We need a point Q on the
normal such that EQ = DQ. But the intersection of the perpendicular
bisector of ED and the normal is such a point (and it exists since D is
not in the plane ABC, and so ED is not at right angles to the normal).
Algorithm:
Is the sphere well defined?
(1) Check that A and B are not coincident (=> failure).
(2) Find the line AB and check that C does not lie on it (=> failure).
(3) Find the plane ABC and check that D does not lie in it (=> failure).
Yes. Find its centre.
(1) Find the perpendicular bisectors of AB and AC.
(2) Find their point of intersection (P).
(3) Find the normal to the plane ABC passing through P (line N).
(4) Find the plane containing N and D; find the point E on the
ABC circle in this plane (if D lies on N, take E as A).
(4) Find the perpendicular bisector of ED (line L)
(5) Find the point of intersection of N and L (Q).
Q is the centre of the desired sphere
Pictures:
(1) In the plane ABC
A
P
B C
(2) At right-angles to ABC, in the plane containing N and D
E
D
line N
--------------------P-------------Q---------------------------
Numerically:
If ED << EP then Q will be very close to P (relative to the radius
of the ABC circle) and subject to error. It's best to choose D so
that the least of AD, BD and CD is larger than for any other choice.
--
Bob Douglas Computing Services, University of Oxford
Internet: bob@oxford.ac.uk
Address: 13 Banbury Road, Oxford OX2 6NN, UK
Telephone: +44-865-273211
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From: rvenkate@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Ravikuma Venkateswar)
Subject: Re: x86 ~= 680x0 ?? (How do they compare?)
Distribution: usa
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skok@itwds1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Holger Skok) writes:
>In article <C5nq9C.LLp@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rvenkate@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Ravikuma Venkateswar) writes:
>[... stuff deleted]
>>
>>Besides, for 0 wait state performance, you'd need a cache anyway. I mean,
>>who uses a processor that runs at the speed of 80ns SIMMs? Note that this
>>memory speed corresponds to a clock speed of 12.5 MHz.
>>
>[more stuff deleted...]
>How do you calculate that figure? I'd assume even in personal computers
>the board designers would use bank switching to (optimistically)
>quadruple the access speed or am I missing something here?
The previous article referred to the fact that you could only use 20ns SIMMs in
a 50MHz machine, but that you could use 80ns SIMMs in slower machines. I just
pointed out that if you could only use 20ns SIMMs in a 50MHz machine, you can't
use 80ns SIMMs in anything faster than a 12.5 MHz machine. Bank switching and
caches were not considered in either example (although both would help memory
access).
>HSK
--
Ravikumar Venkateswar
rvenkate@uiuc.edu
A pun is a no' blessed form of whit.
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From: Merv <IO10702@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Subject: EGA/VGA Monitor&Card wanted
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As it says in the subject, I am looking for a decent EGA or VGA monitor/card
combo that is in working condition.
The only thing is that it must be an 8-bit card.
E-Mail all offers to:
IO10702@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Thanks.
-Merv
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From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: Live Free, but Quietly, or Die
Article-I.D.: adobe.1993Apr6.194913.29264
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
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In article <C52nnt.J3I@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Russell.P.Hughes@dartmouth.edu (Russell P. Hughes) writes:
}start her up and rev to about 3000 rpm....I FAIL cuz I register 120 DB,
}and the max allowed is 110! If I fail with these pipes, there are gonna
Next time make the numbers more believable -- this is poor flamebait.
120 DB is getting close to the sound of a jumbo jet engine at takeoff
revs from some small number of yards away. It is certainly right
around the pain threshold for humans. No way in hell the state permits
110 DB if they have any standard at all.
--
Curtis Jackson cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com '91 Hawk GT '81 Maxim 650
DoD#0721 KotB '91 Black Lab mix "Studley Doright" '92 Collie/Golden "George"
"There is no justification for taking away individuals' freedom
in the guise of public safety." -- Thomas Jefferson
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From: bil@okcforum.osrhe.edu (Bill Conner)
Subject: Re: Americans and Evolution
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Robert Singleton (bobs@thnext.mit.edu) wrote:
: > Sure it isn't mutually exclusive, but it lends weight to (i.e. increases
: > notional running estimates of the posterior probability of) the
: > atheist's pitch in the partition, and thus necessarily reduces the same
: > quantity in the theist's pitch. This is because the `divine component'
: > falls prey to Ockham's Razor, the phenomenon being satisfactorily
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: > explained without it, and there being no independent evidence of any
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: > such component. More detail in the next post.
: >
Occam's Razor is not a law of nature, it is way of analyzing an
argument, even so, it interesting how often it's cited here and to
what end.
It seems odd that religion is simultaneously condemned as being
primitive, simple-minded and unscientific, anti-intellectual and
childish, and yet again condemned as being too complex (Occam's
razor), the scientific explanation of things being much more
straightforeward and, apparently, simpler. Which is it to be - which
is the "non-essential", and how do you know?
Considering that even scientists don't fully comprehend science due to
its complexity and diversity. Maybe William of Occam has performed a
lobotomy, kept the frontal lobe and thrown everything else away ...
This is all very confusing, I'm sure one of you will straighten me out
tough.
Bill
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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: As today marks the 78th anniversary of the Turkish Genocide...
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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In article <48299@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ma170saj@sdcc14.ucsd.edu (System Operator) writes:
>or, as we have painfully witnessed in Azerbaijan, would like to see
>it happen again...
Is this the joke of the month?
1. Your fascist grandparents exterminated 2.5 million Muslim people
between 1914 and 1920.
2. Your Nazi parents fully participated in the extermination of the
European Jewry during WWII.
3. Your criminal cousins have been slaughtering Muslim women, children
and elderly people in fascist x-Soviet Armenia and Karabag for the last
four years.
The entire population of x-Soviet Armenia now, as a result of the
Genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people, are Armenians.
For nearly one thousand years, the Turkish and Kurdish people
lived on their homeland - the last one hundred under the
oppressive Soviet and Armenian occupation. The persecutions
culminated in 1914: The Armenian Government planned and carried
out a Genocide against its Muslim subjects. 2.5 million Turks
and Kurds were murdered and the remainder driven out of their
homeland. After one thousand years, Turkish and Kurdish lands
were empty of Turks and Kurds.
The survivors found a safe heaven in Turkiye.
Today, x-Soviet Armenian government rejects the right of Turks and
Kurds to return to their Muslim lands occupied by x-Soviet Armenia.
Today, x-Soviet Armenian government covers up the genocide perpetrated
by its predecessors and is therefore an accessory to this crime against
humanity.
x-Soviet Armenian government must pay for their crime of genocide
against the Muslims by admitting to the crime and making reparations
to the Turks and Kurds.
Turks and Kurds demand the right to return to their lands, to determine
their own future as a nation in their own homeland.
During the 78th Anniversary, we come once again reiterate the
unity of the Muslim People, the timelessness of the Turkish
and Kurdish Demands and the desire to pursue the struggle
for that restitution - a struggle that unites all Turks and Kurds.
Today, we appeal to all Turkish and Kurdish people in the United
States and Canada to participate en masse in the Commemorative
Events, be they cultural, political or religious.
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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From: sreck@rebox.in-berlin.de (Stefan Reck)
Subject: Re: Adaptec ACB-2322: what is it?
Distribution: world
Organization: REBOX's Host, Berlin, Germany
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wright@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Ted Wright) writes:
>
> An Adaptec ACB-2322 rev B disk controller has come into my hands with
> no documentation. Is this an ESDI controller? MFM? RLL? Something else?
> The BIOS on it is dated 1987, if that is any help.
I think it is an ESDI controller if you need the doco i can help you.
Stefan
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Berlin |---------------------------------------------------------------
Germany | that's all
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From: g.coulter@daresbury.ac.uk (G. Coulter)
Subject: SHADOW Optical Raytracing Package?
Reply-To: g.coulter@daresbury.ac.uk
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Hi Everyone ::
I am looking for some software called SHADOW as
far as I know its a simple raytracer used in
the visualization of synchrotron beam lines.
Now we have an old version of the program here
,but unfortunately we don't have any documentation
if anyone knows where I can get some docs, or
maybe a newer version of the program or even
another program that does the same sort of thing
I would love to hear from you.
PS I think SHADOW was written by a F Cerrina?
Anyone any ideas?
Thanks -Gary- SERC Daresbury Lab.
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From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Subject: Re: The Evidence
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
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In article <115298@bu.edu>, kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) writes:
> BK:
# ##So tell me---what's immoral about homosexuality?
#
# CC:
# #The promiscuity and fetishism that characterizes it.
#
# Hmmm.
#
# I've told you more than once that I've been monogamous for almost 4 years
# now, and that I really don't get into fetishes.
Then you are nearly the only homosexual who is. I don't believe you.
You've changed your story before.
# Yet you maintain my homosexual activity is still immoral.
#
# Care to elaborate?
#
# For that matter, explain why fetishes are immoral?
#
# kane@{buast7,astro}.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) Astronomy Dept, Boston University,
The fact that your fetish is more important than who you are making
love to. (Actually, in your case, "having sex with.")
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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From: joan@koala.berkeley.edu ()
Subject: Re: guns in backcountry? no thanks
Organization: U.C. Berkeley
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In article <C5Lrpq.50o@idacom.hp.com> guy@idacom.hp.com (Guy M. Trotter) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>In Canada, any gun that enters a National Park must be sealed (I think it's a
>small metal tag that's placed over the trigger). The net result of this is
>that you _can't_ use a gun to protect yourself from bears (or psychos) in the
>National Parks. Instead, one has to be sensitive to the dangers and annoyances
>of hiking in bear country, and take the appropriate precautions.
>
>I think this policy makes the users of the National Parks feel a little closer
>to Nature, that they are a part of Nature and, as such, have to deal with
>nature on it's own terms.
>
>Guy
Hello,
I understand this philosophy. The bears are a national
treasure, the area is their sanctuary and people who enter it
do so at their own risk. It is better that that rare human be
killed by a bear than that bears be provoked or shot by unbear-savvy
visitors. The bears aren't having a population explosion, humans
are so it is better that a human be killed than endanger the bears.
I don't agree with this philosopy, but I understand it.
The psychos are a bit different. They are not a national
treasure but I suppose the decision has been made that to "allow"
provision for defense against them would also "allow" provision
for defense against bears. Again, I suppose it has been decided
that it is better for the rare human to be killed by a psycho than
to take a chance on threatening the bears.
Personally, I wouldn't go into an area where I would be
"managed" so as to reduce my safety ..... but ... come to think
of it I guess I live in a managed wilderness myself :-)
Joan V
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From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Subject: Re: Good Neighbor Political Hypocrisy Test
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
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In article <16BB1B92B.DAK988S@vma.smsu.edu.Ext> DAK988S@vma.smsu.edu writes:
>You think that you all have it bad....here at good ol' Southwest Missouri
>State U., we have 2 parties running for student body president. There's the
>token sorority/fraternity faces, and then there's the president and vice
>president of NORML. They campaigned by handing out condoms and listing
>their qualifications as,"I listen really well." It makes me sick to have
>a party established on many of the things that are ruining this country like
>they are. I think I'll run next year.:(
Well, a student body president can't exactly campaign on the stand
that he's "tough on crime". Their job is to listen to what people want
and fund things that make sense.
Condoms and marijuana aren't exactly the worst things to have available
either...
don
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From: davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Dave Edmondson)
Subject: Re: Happy Easter!
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
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Nick Pettefar (npet@bnr.ca) wrote:
: kevinh, on the Tue, 20 Apr 1993 13:23:01 GMT wibbled:
Jonathan Quist bemoaned:
: : |> Yes, it's a minor blasphemy that U.S. companies would ?? on the likes
of A.M.,
: : |> Jaguar, or (sob) Lotus. It's outright sacrilege for RR to have
non-British
: : |> ownership. It's a fundamental thing
Lotus looks set for a management buyout. GM weren't happy that the Elan was
late and too pricey. If they can write off the Elan development costs the may
be able to sell them for a sensible price.
: : I think there is a legal clause in the RR name, regardless of who owns it
: : it must be a British company/owner - i.e. BA can sell the company but not
: : the name.
: : kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch
: I don't believe that BA have anything to do with RR. It's a seperate
: company from the RR Aero-Engine company.
It's Vickers who own Rolls Royce cars.
And yes Kevin it is posts, Morgan use a sliding pillar front suspension.
Ob Bike (at long bleeding last): When will that Pettefar bloke get a mail
address so we can bung him on the Ogri list?
dave
--
David Edmondson davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk
Queen Mary & Westfield College DoD#0777 Guzzi Le Mans 1000
"This means the end of the horse-drawn Zeppelin."
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From: paulson@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (Sharon Paulson)
Subject: Re: food-related seizures?
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton VA, USA
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<C5uq9B.LrJ@toads.pgh.pa.us> <C5x3L0.3r8@athena.cs.uga.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmb00.larc.nasa.gov
In-reply-to: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu's message of Fri, 23 Apr 1993 03:41:24 GMT
In article <C5x3L0.3r8@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:
Newsgroups: sci.med
Path: news.larc.nasa.gov!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!sdd.hp.com!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!athena!aisun3.ai.uga.edu!mcovingt
From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Sender: usenet@athena.cs.uga.edu
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Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
References: <PAULSON.93Apr19081647@cmb00.larc.nasa.gov> <116305@bu.edu> <C5uq9B.LrJ@toads.pgh.pa.us>
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1993 03:41:24 GMT
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In article <C5uq9B.LrJ@toads.pgh.pa.us> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>In article <116305@bu.edu> dozonoff@bu.edu (david ozonoff) writes:
>>
>>Many of these cereals are corn-based. After your post I looked in the
>>literature and located two articles that implicated corn (contains
>>tryptophan) and seizures. The idea is that corn in the diet might
>>potentiate an already existing or latent seizure disorder, not cause it.
>>Check to see if the two Kellog cereals are corn based. I'd be interested.
>
>Years ago when I was an intern, an obese young woman was brought into
>the ER comatose after having been reported to have grand mal seizures
>why attending a "corn festival". We pumped her stomach and obtained
>what seemed like a couple of liters of corn, much of it intact kernals.
>After a few hours she woke up and was fine. I was tempted to sign her out as
>"acute corn intoxication."
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
How about contaminants on the corn, e.g. aflatoxin???
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:- Michael A. Covington, Associate Research Scientist : *****
:- Artificial Intelligence Programs mcovingt@ai.uga.edu : *********
:- The University of Georgia phone 706 542-0358 : * * *
:- Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A. amateur radio N4TMI : ** *** ** <><
What is aflatoxin?
Sharon
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Sharon Paulson s.s.paulson@larc.nasa.gov
NASA Langley Research Center
Bldg. 1192D, Mailstop 156 Work: (804) 864-2241
Hampton, Virginia. 23681 Home: (804) 596-2362
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From: betts@netcom.com (Jonathan Betts)
Subject: Where to find CHEAP LCD displays?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
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Sci.E(E) netters:
I am setting out to build and market a small electronic device that
requires an LCD display. All of the analog electronics are working
fine, I have ordered a PIC ICE (not vice versa) since the PICs are so
cheap and low-power, but I am having a devil of a time finding any
LCD displays in the 6-8 digit range that are priced as low as I need. I
am looking for somthing in the range of $1 in quantities of about
1000-10,000.
Mainstream distributors like Almac cannot help me without a part
number, or when they do look around for something in their line
they find a $15 8-digit LCD. Even Digikey's cheapest offering is $5 in
quantity.
I know LCD displays like this must exist because I see whole
calculators for sale for $4.99, meaning the retailer probably buys it
for $3.50 and the wholesaler probably gets it for $2.50 or so. This
$2.50 includes assembly labor, packaging, sales, transportation,
import duties, the case and keyboard, the PC Board, the processor
chip, the solar cell --- and the LCD. The LCD can't cost much.
If anyone could put me in touch with some manufacturers and/or
distributors that handle such things I would be much obliged.
-Joe Betts
betts@netcom.com
P.S. I have tried tearing apart several cheap consumer devices that
have LCDs only to find that the LCDs are unlabelled. Has anyone else
had better luck with this strategy?
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From: johnsd2@rpi.edu (Dan Johnson)
Subject: Re: Atheists and Hell
Reply-To: johnsd2@rpi.edu
Organization: not Sun Microsystems
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In article 29279@athos.rutgers.edu, atterlep@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Cardinal Ximenez) writes:
> I have seen two common threads running through postings by atheists on the
>newsgroup, and I think that they can be used to explain each other.
>Unfortunately I don't have direct quotes handy...
>1) Atheists believe that when they die, they die forever.
>2) A god who would condemn those who fail to believe in him to eternal death
> is unfair.
> I don't see what the problem is! To Christians, Hell is, by definition,
>eternal death--exactly what atheists are expecting when they die.
This is the problem. This is not hell, this is permanent death. It is
indeed what atheists (generally) expect and it is neither fair nor
unfair, it just is. You might as well argue about whether being made
mostly of carbon and water is "fair".
However, the atheists who claim that Hell is unfair are talking about
the fire and brimstone place of endless suffering, which necessarily
includes eternal existance (life, I dunno, but some sort of continuation);
not at all the same thing.
Granted, you clearly feel that hell=death, but this is not a univeral
sentiment as near as I can tell.
If *your* idea of God "condemns" heathens to ordinary death, I have no
problem with that. I do have a problem with the gods that hide from humans
and torture the unbelievers eternally for not guessing right.
[deletia- Hell, and Literalness.]
---
- Dan Johnson
And God said "Jeeze, this is dull"... and it *WAS* dull. Genesis 0:0
These opinions probably show what I know.
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From: asphaug@lpl.arizona.edu (Erik Asphaug x2773)
Subject: FOR SALE: 550 ZEPHYR
Summary: Tucson Area, moving to Bay Area
Organization: Lunar & Planetary Laboratory, Tucson AZ.
Lines: 24
Hi boys and girls. I just bought a Beemer R80GS and realized abruptly that
I am a grad student. I first sold my truck yesterday but I need to sell my
Zephyr too.
If I can sell it this month, great ... insurance and tags both run out in
a couple of weeks. Otherwise I'll tag and insure it and see what happens.
It's a very sweet bike. 6100 miles, almost all highway (AZ-WY-CO last summer,
plus some great rides between here and the Border. Purchased new exactly
one year ago (Apr '92), it's a '90 model. It has a good fairing and a
luggage rack. Red; very clean. Perfect maintenance, no bullshit. I'll spare
any further details other than to say (1) I want to keep it, and (2) somebody
5'7" +/- 5" will fit it like a charm. Not a bike for big people, but not a
small bike. Standard, upright positioning and good-looking. Smooth power,
great brakes, good Karma.
- Erik
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| DoD# 88888 asphaug@hindmost.lpl.arizona.edu |
| '90 Kawi 550 Zephyr (Erik Asphaug) |
| '86 BMW R80GS |
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From: mark@ocsmd.ocs.com (Mark Wilson)
Subject: WANTED: The Nine-Mile Walk
Organization: Online Computer Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: misc.forsale
Lines: 31
[ Article crossposted from rec.arts.books ]
[ Author was Mark Wilson ]
[ Posted on Wed, 21 Apr 1993 11:55:55 GMT ]
I am looking for the following book, which I have
only seen as a paperback (I lent my copy to someone,
and forgetfulness has made that pronoun PERMANENTLY
indeterminate!). I am looking for one OR two copies!
Title: The Nine-Mile Walk and Other Stories
(unsure about the hyphen and the exact subtitle)
Author: Harry Kemelman (author of all the "Rabbi" mysteries)
It's a collection of short mystery stories. Please email
mark@ocsmd.ocs.com OR call the 800 number given below.
Thanks!
- Mark
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This file .disclaims everything signed with my .signature, I .mean it!
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(Try email address mark@ocsmd.ocs.com....)
This file .disclaims everything signed with my .signature, I .mean it!
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From: mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.
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X-Newsreader: rusnews v1.01
frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer) writes:
> I am not a Christian, however I suspect that all flavours of
> Christianity hold that (a) objective morality exists and (b) their
> particular interpretation of scripture/revelation/TV is a goodly glimpse
> of it. That they may all disagree about (b) says nothing about the truth
> or falsehood of (a).
Actually, they generally claim that (b) their particular interpretation of
scripture/revelation *is* this objective morality. That there are two
conflicting versions of this objective morality does tell us something about
(a). It tells us at least one fake objective morality exists.
The next logical step is to deduce that any given religion's objective
morality could be the fake one. So caveat emptor.
mathew
--
Atheism: Anti-virus software for the mind.
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From: jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Re: New planet/Kuiper object found?
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Distribution: sci
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In article <STEINLY.93Apr23130246@topaz.ucsc.edu> steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson) writes:
>In article <1r9de3INNjkv@gap.caltech.edu> jafoust@cco.caltech.edu (Jeff Foust) writes:
>
> In a recent article jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll) writes:
> > If the new Kuiper belt object *is* called 'Karla', the next
> >one should be called 'Smiley'.
>
> Unless I'm imaging things, (always a possibility =) 1992 QB1, the Kuiper Belt
> object discovered last year, is known as Smiley.
>
>As it happens the _second_ one is Karla. The first one was
>Smiley. All subject to the vagaries of the IAU of course,
>but I think they might let this one slide...
Gee, I feel so ignorant now...
Research, then post.
James Nicoll
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From: dpb@sdchemw2.ucsd.edu (Doug P. Book)
Subject: Re: Stereo sound problem (?) on mac games
Organization: UC San Diego Chemistry
Lines: 13
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdchemw2.ucsd.edu
Thanks, Steve, for your helpful and informative comments on Mac stereo
sound.
Too bad some developers aren't addressing the problem.
This did make my trusty old Mac II superior to the Quadra I replaced
it with in one way though! :)
Thanks,
Doug
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From: dingman+@cs.cmu.edu (Christopher Dingman)
Subject: Re: Buying a high speed v.everything modem
Nntp-Posting-Host: pie9.mach.cs.cmu.edu
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Lines: 38
In article <1993Apr20.001127.4928@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> behr@math.ilstu.edu (Eric Behr) writes:
>
>The AT&T Dataport earns nearly unanimous praises for reliability. They are
>backordered at the moment, probably because of the special $299 price in
>effect until May. Its fax capabilities are worse than that of the other two
>modems. WARNING: AT&T ads say that the modem comes with a Mac kit (cables &
>all), and has lifetime warranty. This applies *only* when you order
>directly from Paradyne! I called ElekTek (one of the distributors), and
>they wanted to charge me $16 for cable, and gave only 1 year warranty...
>
Hmm, I don't know where this information concerning the cable and the
warranty came from but I ordered mine from Logos Communications, near
Cleveland, and inside was a Mac cable (with the correct pin connections :-))
and a lifetime warranty. The whole package was assembled at AT&T Paradyne,
and every piece (the serial cable, the telephone cable, etc.) had AT&T
part numbers on them, except the QuickLink software package and the
CompuServe intro kit.
>--
>Eric Behr, Illinois State University, Mathematics Department
>behr@math.ilstu.edu or behr@ilstu.bitnet (please avoid!)
If anyone's interested, Logos number is (800) 837-7777. I ordered mine
last Wednesday and got my modem on Friday, though it's not to far from
Cleveland to Pittsburgh.. :-) On the down side they only ship UPS COD.
- Chris
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Christopher P. Dingman |
| Electrical and Computer Eng. Dept. dingman@ece.cmu.edu |
| Carnegie Mellon University (412) 268-7119 |
| 5000 Forbes Ave |
| Pittsburgh, PA 15213 |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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From: pgf5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Garfiel Freeman)
Subject: Re: Enough Freeman Bashing! Was: no-Free man propaganda machine: Freemanwith blood greetings from Israel
Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: pgf5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Garfiel Freeman)
Organization: Columbia University
Lines: 18
In article <C5I6JG.BM1@eis.calstate.edu> mafifi@eis.calstate.edu (Marc A Afifi) writes:
>pgf5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Garfiel Freeman) writes:
>
>
>Peter,
>
>I believe this is your most succinct post to date. Since you have nothing
>to say, you say nothing! It's brilliant. Did you think of this all by
>yourself?
>
>-marc
>--
Hey tough guy, read the topic. That's the message. Get a brain. Go to
a real school.
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From: carlj@mugwump (Carl Johnson)
Subject: xterm and default text cursor color
Reply-To: carlj@cyclone.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs
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NNTP-Posting-Host: mugwump.muppet.bt.co.uk
What I want to be able to do is to set the cursor
color to the same as the forground color that is set
for that xterm.
From the man page.....
-cr color
This option specifies the color to use for text cur-
sor. The default is to use the same foreground <---
color that is used for text. <---
However this doesnt seem to be the case, it appears to default to black
or to whatever XTerm*cursorColor is set to.
Feel free to point me at the relevant FM or whatever,
Cheers,
C
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From: Don_Alder@mindlink.bc.ca (Don Alder)
Subject: Bware of JayHayes/Deleware
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
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Had a deal with Jay Hayes from Deleware and was ripped off do not deal with
this guy and if you know him go to his door with a bat! He lives in Deleware
and I will post his full address later as well as his phone number in case
any on e else wants to call and leave nasty messages. He will not return
email and he will not return my phone calls I left a message iwth hgis
roomate to call collect and hes not man enough. He still maintains net
privilages, can we somehow get this turkey off the net.
DA
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From: grape@suned1.Nswses.Navy.MIL (Mike Grapevine)
Subject: subscribe
Organization: The Internet
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To: expert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
subscribe grape@nswses.navy.mil
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From: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Subject: Re: Immotile Cilia Syndrome
Article-I.D.: pitt.19423
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 31
In article <1993Mar26.213522.26224@ncsu.edu> andrea@unity.ncsu.edu (Andrea M Free-Kwiatkowski) writes:
>I would like to know if there is any new information out there about the
>subject or any new studies being conducted. I am confident in my
>pediatrician and her communication with the people in Chapel Hill, but
>since this is a life-long disorder and genetically transferred I would
>like keep current. I do realize that since this is a relatively new
>disorder (first documented in 1974 in a fertility clinic in Scandanavia)
>and is therefore "controversial".
I do not know a lot about this, except from seeing one patient with
"Kartagener's syndrome", which is a form of immotile cilia syndrome
in which there is situs inversus, bronchiectasis, and chronic
infections. "Situs inversus" means that organs are on the wrong
side of the body, and can be complete or partial. It is interesting
medically because the normal location of organs is caused in part
by the "normal" rotation associated with ciliary motion, so that in
absence of this, laterality can be "random." People with situs
inversus are quite popular at medical schools, because of their
rarity, and the fact that most doctors get a bit upset when they
can't find the patient's heart sounds (because they're on the wrong
side).
According to Harrison's, immotile cilia syndrom is an autosomal
recessive, which should imply that on average one child in four
in a family would be affected. But there may be much more current
information on this, and as usual in medicine, we may be talking
about more than one conditiion. I would suggest that you ask your
pediatrician about contacting a medical geneticics specialist, of
which there is probably one at NCSU.
-km
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From: hsieh@ipld04.hac.com (Julia Hsieh)
Subject: How to reach Micron
Distribution: na
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Does anyone know how to reach Micron? I am interested in getting some
specifics about what types of monitors work with their Micron Xceed
card for the se/30. either e-mail or phone number would be prefered.
Or if you have the answers to my questions, i'd appreciate a reply.
Thanks.
--
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