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Subject: Space FAQ 02/15 - Network Resources From: leech@cs.unc.edu (Jon Leech) Expires: 6 May 1993 19:54:26 GMT Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Keywords: Frequently Asked Questions Supersedes: <net_730956391@cs.unc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mahler.cs.unc.edu Lines: 241 Archive-name: space/net Last-modified: $Date: 93/04/01 14:39:15 $ NETWORK RESOURCES OVERVIEW You may be reading this document on any one of an amazing variety of computers, so much of the material below may not apply to you. In general, however, systems connected to 'the net' fall in one of three categories: Internet, Usenet, or BITNET. Electronic mail may be sent between these networks, and other resources available on one of these networks are sometimes accessible from other networks by email sent to special 'servers'. The space and astronomy discussion groups actually are composed of several mechanisms with (mostly) transparent connections between them. One mechanism is the mailing list, in which mail is sent to a central distribution point which relays it to all recipients of the list. In addition to the general lists for space (called SPACE Digest for Internet users, and SPACE on BITNET), there are a number of more specialized mailing lists described below. A second mechanism is Usenet 'netnews'. This is somewhat like a bulletin board operating on each system which is a part of the net. Netnews separates contributions into hundreds of different categories based on a 'group name'. The groups dealing most closely with space topics are called 'sci.space.news', 'sci.space', 'sci.space.shuttle', 'sci.astro', and 'talk.politics.space'. Contributors 'post' submissions (called 'articles' in netnews terminology) on their local machine, which sends it to other nearby machines. Similarly, articles sent from nearby machines are stored locally and may be forwarded to other systems, so that an article is posted locally and eventually reaches all the Usenet sites interested in receiving the news group to which the article was posted. Gateway machines redirect the Usenet sci.space group into Internet and BITNET mailing lists and vice versa; the other Usenet groups are not accessible as mailing lists. If you can receive netnews, its more flexible interface and access to a wider range of material usually make it the preferred option. MAILING LISTS SPACE Digest is the main Internet list, and is now being run by the International Space University (in only its second change of management in over a decade). Email space-request@isu.isunet.edu (message body should be in the format 'subscribe space John Public') to join. Note that the moderated SPACE Magazine list is defunct at present for lack of a moderator. Old copies of SPACE Digest since its inception in 1981 are available by anonymous FTP. Retrieve julius.cs.qub.ac.uk:pub/SpaceDigestArchive/README for further details. Elements is a moderated list for fast distribution of Space Shuttle Keplerian Elements before and during Shuttle flights. NASA two line elements are sent out on the list from Dr. Kelso, JSC, and other sources as they are released. Email to elements-request@telesoft.com to join. GPS Digest is a moderated list for discussion of the Global Positioning System and other satellite navigation positioning systems. Email to gps-request@esseye.si.com to join. Space-investors is a list for information relevant to investing in space-related companies. Email Vincent Cate (vac@cs.cmu.edu) to join. Space-tech is a list for more technical discussion of space topics; discussion has included esoteric propulsion technologies, asteroid capture, starflight, orbital debris removal, etc. Email to space-tech-request@cs.cmu.edu to join. Archives of old digests and selected excerpts are available by anonymous FTP from gs80.sp.cs.cmu.edu (128.2.205.90) in /usr/anon/public/space-tech, or by email to space-tech-request if you don't have FTP access. SEDS-L is a BITNET list for members of Students for the Exploration and Development of Space and other interested parties. Email LISTSERV@TAMVM1.BITNET with a message saying "SUBSCRIBE SEDS-L your name". Email saying "INDEX SEDS-L" to list the archive contents. SEDSNEWS is a BITNET list for news items, press releases, shuttle status reports, and the like. This duplicates material which is also found in Space Digest, sci.space, sci.space.shuttle, and sci.astro. Email LISTSERV@TAMVM1.BITNET saying "SUBSCRIBE SEDSNEWS your name" to join. Email saying "INDEX SEDSNEWS" to list the archive contents. Ron Baalke (baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov) runs a mailing list which carries the contents of the sci.space.news Usenet group. Email him to join the list. As a general note, please mail to the *request* address to get off a mailing list. SPACE Digest, for example, relays many inappropriate 'please remove me from this list' messages which are sent to the list address rather than the request address. PERIODICALLY UPDATED INFORMATION In addition to this FAQ list, a broad variety of topical information is posted to the net (unless otherwise noted, in the new group sci.space.news created for this purpose). Please remember that the individuals posting this information are performing a service for all net readers, and don't take up their time with frivolous requests. ACRONYMS Garrett Wollman (wollman@UVM.EDU) posts an acronym list around the first of each month. ASTRO-FTP LIST Veikko Makela (veikko.makela@helsinki.fi) posts a monthly list of anonymous FTP servers containing astronomy and space related material to sci.space and sci.astro. AVIATION WEEK Henry Spencer (henry@zoo.toronto.edu) posts summaries of space-related stories in the weekly _Aviation Week and Space Technology_. BUYING TELESCOPES Ronnie Kon (ronnie@cisco.com) posts a guide to buying telescopes to sci.astro. ELECTRONIC JOURNAL OF THE ASA Don Barry (don@chara.gsu.edu) posts the monthly Electronic Journal of the Astronomical Society of the Atlantic to sci.astro. FLIGHT INTERNATIONAL Swaraj Jeyasingh (sjeyasin@axion.bt.co.uk) posts summaries of space-related news from _Flight International_. This focuses more on non-US space activities than Aviation Week. LARGE ASTRONOMICAL PROJECTS Robert Bunge (rbunge@access.digex.com) posts a list describing many "Large Telescope Projects Either Being Considered or in the Works" to sci.astro. NASA HEADLINE NEWS & SHUTTLE REPORTS Peter Yee (yee@ames.arc.nasa.gov) posts a variety of NASA material, including NASA Headline News (with the schedule for NASA SELECT), shuttle payload briefings and flight manifests, and KSC shuttle status reports. For Usenet users, much of this material appears in the group sci.space.shuttle. NASA UPDATES Ron Baalke (baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov) posts frequent updates from JPL, Ames, and other centers on the Ulysses, Gailileo, Pioneer, Magellan, Landsat, and other missions. ORBITAL ELEMENT SETS TS Kelso (tkelso@blackbird.afit.af.mil) posts orbital elements from NASA Prediction Bulletins. Mike Rose (mrose@stsci.edu) posts orbital elements for the Hubble Space Telescope to sci.astro. Jost Jahn (j.jahn@abbs.hanse.de) posts ephemerides for asteroids, comets, conjunctions, and encounters to sci.astro. SATELLITE LAUNCHES Richard Langley (lang@unb.ca) posts SPACEWARN Bulletin, which describes recent launch/orbital decay information and satellites which are useful for scientific activities. Recent bulletins are available by anonymous FTP from nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov in ANON_DIR:[000000.ACTIVE.SPX]. SHUTTLE MANIFEST Ken Hollis (gandalf@pro-electric.cts.com) posts a compressed version of the Space Shuttle launch manifest to sci.space.shuttle. This includes dates, times, payloads, and information on how to see launches and landings. SOLAR ACTIVITY Cary Oler (oler@hg.uleth.ca) posts Solar Terrestrial reports (describing solar activity and its effect on the Earth) to sci.space. The report is issued in part from data released by the Space Enviroment Services Center, Boulder Colorado. The intro document needed to understand these reports is available by anonymous FTP from solar.stanford.edu (36.10.0.4) in pub/understanding_solar_terrestrial_reports. nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100) also has this document in /pub/misc/rec.radio.shortwave/solarreports and is an archive site for the reports (please note this site is in Europe, and the connection to the US is only 56KB). A new primary archive site, xi.uleth.ca (142.66.3.29), has recently been established and will be actively supported. SOVIET SPACE ACTIVITIES Glenn Chapman (glennc@cs.sfu.ca) posts summaries of Soviet space activities. SPACE ACTIVIST NEWSLETTER Allen Sherzer (aws@iti.org) posts a newsletter, "One Small Step for a Space Activist," to talk.politics.space. It describes current legislative activity affecting NASA and commercial space activities. SPACE EVENTS CALENDAR Ron Baalke (baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov) posts a calendar including anniversaries, conferences, launch dates, meteor showers and eclipses, and other space-related events. SPACE NEWS John Magliacane (kd2bd@ka2qhd.UUCP) posts "SpaceNews" (covering AMSATs, NOAA and other weather satellites, and other ham information) to rec.radio.amateur.misc and sci.space. SPACE REPORT Jonathan McDowell (mcdowell@cfa.harvard.edu) posts "Jonathan's Space Report" covering launches, landings, reentries, status reports, satellite activities, etc. TOWARD 2001 Bev Freed (freed@nss.fidonet.org) posts "Toward 2001", a weekly global news summary reprinted from _Space Calendar_ magazine. WARNING ABOUT NON-PUBLIC NETWORKS (Included at the suggestion of Eugene Miya, who wrote the item) NASA has an internal system of unclassified electronic mail and bulletin boards. This system is not open for public use. Specifically, NASA personnel and procurement operations are regarded with some sensitivity. Contractors must renegotiate their contracts. The Fair and Open Procurement Act does not look kindly to those having inside information. Contractors and outsiders caught using this type of information can expect severe penalities. Unauthorized access attempts may subject you to a fine and/or imprisonment in accordance with Title 18, USC, Section 1030. If in fact you should should learn of unauthorized access, contact NASA personnel. Claims have been made on this news group about fraud and waste. None have ever been substantiated to any significant degree. Readers detecting Fraud, Waste, Abuse, or Mismanagement should contact the NASA Inspector General (24-hours) at 800-424-9183 (can be anonymous) or write NASA Inspector General P.O. Box 23089 L'enfant Plaza Station Washington DC 20024 NEXT: FAQ #3/15 - Online (and some offline) sources of images, data, etc.
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From: gd8f@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Gregory Dandulakis) Subject: Re: Turkey-Cyprus-Bosnia-Serbia-Greece (Armenia-Azeris) Organization: University of Virginia Lines: 59 In article <93106.082650FINAID5@auvm.american.edu> <FINAID5@auvm.american.edu> writes: >Message-ID: <1993Apr15.174657.6176@news.uiowa.edu> Mr.Napoleon responds: > >** There were a couple millions of Greeks living in Asia Minor >**until 1923 Someone had to protect them. If not us who?? > > >Is that so? or you were taking advantage of weakness of ottoman >empire to grab some land. As soon as you got green lights from >allied forces, you occupied Izmir and other cities in western >Turkey. You killed and raped millions people without any reason. >Of course, you paid the price. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk made >you swim in aegean sea but not far enough. Your aggressions thru >Turkey at anytime in the past did not get you any reward and shall >not get you anywhere. Don't swallow propaganda as truth Sir. British promised to Venizelos (greek PM) that mainly greek populated areas of the Ottomans will be given to Greece, _if_ he will agree to drag Greece in the side of the British during the WWI (because the greek King was proGerman). The British succeeded by bombarding Athens (1916), killing quite a few, forcing abdication of the King, division of Greece into two separate states (North-South), and finally laying the ground for the most disasterous division between greeks for our century.(So don't feel bitter that the "Allies" gave any green light because they liked us....) Anyway, the British succeed to establish Venizelos, war starts at a second front against the Germans in the south while they were fighting the war in the East against the Russians, and finally the WWII came in an end. After that the British (and French) forgot immediately their promises (as usually). Even though publicly they say that they support the Greek cause, practically they not only do nothing, but instead, using some usual "reasoning" and other crap rhetoric as a pretext, they gradually backup Kemal (who had given now to the British "water and bread" that he will dissolve the superethnic Ottoman and contract it into a small ethnic-state). The main drive behind this British switch was the plan to keep a Muslim state in the region as buffer against a Russian expansion into warm-water facilities. The "greek empire" being an Orthodox Christian state was too prone to become Russian client. Out of this intrigue, the current state of affairs was established on our lands. While Venizelos and Kemal were promoted as true "Giants" by the British, since they worked to realize their goals in the region. Under the same plan, currently Greece and Turkey are recipients of big military funds from the US; both they are functioning as anti-Russian buffers, while simultaneously both remain good clients of State Dept. because otherwise the use of terror of changing "the balance of power in the Aegean" will be used. Under the same exact rational you should see the Cyprus problem. Gr PS: I don't make any anti-...whatever rhetoric. This is the situation in our region and needs to be said. The previously mentioned powers are not anything special; they are fucntioning the same way which anyone else functions all throughout history. So I don't selectively single them out; just they are relevant to _our_ current afairs.
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From: opuglies@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Ing. Orlando Pugliese) Subject: Is this a good price ? Organization: ITESM, Campus Monterrey Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx Hi everybody, I will buy a Honda Civic EX Coupe. The dealer ask $12,750 for it, including A/C ( installed ), but not including stereo, tax, registration fees. I live in Mexico, so I don't have time to go to a lot of dealers and compare their prices. The dealer is in McAllen, Tx. Is this a good price for that car ? If not, how much should I pay for it ? Please e-mail ASAP if you don't want to post. Thanks a lot. Orlando Pugliese opuglies@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx -- ___________________________________ | * | | | ** * * ** | | Orlando Pugliese N | * * * | | Instituto Tecnologico y de Estudios | * * | | Superiores de Monterrey |_________________|_________________| Depto. de Informacion Academica | | * | Monterrey, N.L., Mexico | | ** * * ** | (83) 58-2000 ext 4113
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From: dante@shakala.com (Charlie Prael) Subject: Re: Moonbase race Organization: Shakala BBS (ClanZen Radio Network) Sunnyvale, CA +1-408-734-2289 Lines: 20 sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu (Doug Mohney) writes: > Allen, sometimes I think you're OK. And sometimes you tend to rashly leap in > making statement without thinking them out. > > Wanna guess which today? > > You'd need to launch HLVs to send up large amounts of stuff. Do you know > of a private Titan pad? Doug-- Actually, if memory serves, the Atlas is an outgrowth of the old Titan ICBM. If so, there's probably quite a few old pads, albeit in need of some serious reconditioning. Still, Being able to buy the turf and pad (and bunkers, including prep facility) at Midwest farmland prices strikes me as pretty damned cheap. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Charlie Prael - dante@shakala.com Shakala BBS (ClanZen Radio Network) Sunnyvale, CA +1-408-734-2289
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From: moy@acf2.nyu.edu (moy) Subject: Apology Organization: New York University Lines: 3 I responded to a post last week and it carried somewhat of a hostile tone for which I am apologizing for. It is not my intent to create contriversy or to piss people off. To those who I offend, I'm sorry
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From: davet@interceptor.cds.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS) Subject: Re: V-max handling request Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO Lines: 27 In article <1993Apr15.222224.1@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg> ba7116326@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg writes: >hello there >ican anyone who has handson experience on riding the Yamaha v-max, pls kindly >comment on its handling . From _Cycle_World_ magazine (5/93) (who usually never says _anything_ bad about any motorcycle): "The Max certainly has motor, but there are some things it is short of. It is short of chassis. It loves straight lines; aimed in one, it is nicely stable. But it is not overfond of corners. Forced into one, it protests, shaking its head, chattering its front tire, grinding its footpegs, and generally making known its preference for straight pavement. Bumps? It doesn't like them either. Its fork isn't too bad, though it is soft enough that it can be bottomed under hard braking. The shocks, though which work on that short-travel, shaft-drive swingarm, are firm to the point of harshness." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dave Tharp | DoD #0751 | "You can't wear out | | davet@interceptor.CDS.TEK.COM | MRA #151 | an Indian Scout, | | '88 K75S '48 Indian Chief | AHRMA #751 | Or its brother the Chief.| | '75 R90S(#151) '72 TR-2B(#751) | AMA #524737 | They're built like rocks | | '65 R50/2/Velorex '57 NSU Max | | to take the knocks, | | 1936 BMW R12 | (Compulsive | It's the Harleys that | | My employer has no idea. | Joiner) | give you grief." | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: lsa@ll.mit.edu (lisa s anderson) Subject: Re: Too Many Europeans in NHL Reply-To: lsa@ll.mit.edu (lisa s anderson) Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory Lines: 24 In article <1993Apr6.142037.9246@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes: |> |>In article <1993Apr6.044323.22829@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> daniell@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Lyddy) writes: |>> |>>You know, you're absolutely right. I think we should round up all those |>>players of European descent and ship 'em back to where they came from. Let's |>>see, with whom should we start? I dunno, Lemieux? Hmmm...sounds like he |>>has *French* blood in him!!! Hey! France is part of Europe! Send that |>>Euro-blooded boy back!!! |>> |> |>Don't you Americans study history...the French settled in North America |>as early or before the British...Lemieux can probably trace back his |>North American heritage back a lot further than most of us. |> |>Gerald |> Uh, Gerald, I think he was joking... -lisa
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From: khairon@usc.edu (Rosli Bin Khairon) Subject: Looking for Address of Noise Cancellation Tech. Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 14 Distribution: na NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun130.usc.edu I am new to this newsgroup so I apologise if this is not the appropriate forum to ask this question. I am looking for the address of Noise Cancellation Technologies. It is rather important. So if you can help me in this regard, please do. Thank you. -- Rosli Khairon@aludra.usc.edu
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From: geoffrey@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (Geoff Thomas) Subject: Re: Help! 256 colors display in C. Keywords: graphics Article-I.D.: cantua.C533EM.Cv7 Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand Lines: 21 Nntp-Posting-Host: huia.canterbury.ac.nz You'll probably have to set the palette up before you try drawing in the new colours. Use the bios interrupt calls to set the r g & b values (in the range from 0-63 for most cards) for a particular palette colour (in the range from 0-255 for 256 colour modes). Then you should be able to draw pixels in those palette values and the result should be ok. You might have to do a bit of colourmap compressing if you have more than 256 unique rgb triplets, for a 256 colour mode. Geoff Thomas geoffrey@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz Computer Science Dept. University of Canterbury Private Bag +-------+ Christchurch | Oook! | New Zealand +-------+
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From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat) Subject: Re: Keeping Spacecraft on after Funding Cuts. Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA Lines: 11 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net Some birds require constant management for survival. Pointing a sensor at the sun, even when powered down, may burn it out. Pointing a parabolic antenna at Sol, from venus orbit may trash the foci elements. Even if you let teh bird drift, it may get hosed by some cosmic phenomena. pat
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From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B) Subject: Re: TIFF: philosophical significance of 42 Organization: Purdue University Lines: 20 In article <1993Apr10.160929.696@galki.toppoint.de> ulrich@galki.toppoint.de writes: > According to the TIFF 5.0 Specification, the TIFF "version number" > (bytes 2-3) 42 has been chosen for its "deep philosophical > significance". > Last week, I read the Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, > Is this actually how they picked the number 42? I'm sure it is, and I am not amused. Every time I read that part of the TIFF spec, it infuriates me- and I'm none too happy about the complexity of the spec anyway- because I think their "arbitrary but carefully chosen number" is neither. Additionally, I find their choice of 4 bytes to begin a file with meaningless of themselves- why not just use the letters "TIFF"? (And no, I don't think they should have bothered to support both word orders either- and I've found that many TIFF readers actually don't.) ab
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From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) Subject: Re: That Kill by Sword, Must be Killed by Sword Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau Lines: 18 In article <20APR199306173611@utarlg.uta.edu>, b645zaw@utarlg.uta.edu (stephen) wrote: > tional as that is for so many). One direct benefit is being able to > keep things in perspective, KS. > > Such as who hurts more -- the ones who died, or the loved ones who > are left? Besides the lessons. It's also time for many to grieve. > Including those who've lost their faith in others, or in God. > > I'm learning to be patient, and let things heal. God willing. Christians through ages have had to learn to be patient. I do think it's time to face the reality. The events during the last 52 two days showed what the world is really like. Kent --- sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
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From: hambidge@bms.com Subject: Re: Some more about gun control... Reply-To: hambidge@bms.com Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb Lines: 39 In article <C5MzyK.E7G@ulowell.ulowell.edu>, jrutledg@cs.ulowell.edu (John Lawrence Rutledge) writes: > >No not, unconditional, but "shall not be infringed". Infringed >is defined as: > To break or ignore the terms of or obligations (an oath, > an agreement, law, or the like); to disreguard; violate. > To go beyond the boundaries or limits; tresspass; encroach. >This definition implies the following of some form of existing >agreement. Laws and agreements are made in advance. The rights guaranteed by the Constitution were considered to be pre-existing. The only agreement was that they exist. Therefore, no law grants such rights. Laws can only guarantee, protect, or infringe such rights. Websters Third New International Dictionary of the English Language, Unabridged 1986 infringe 1.a. to break down:DESTROY b. DEFEAT, FRUSTRATE c. CONFUTE, REFUTE d. IMPAIR, WEAKEN 2. to commit a breach of : neglect to fulfill or obey : VIOLATE, TRANSGRESS vi : ENCROACH, TRESPASS infringement 1. the act of infringing : BREACH, VIOLATION, NONFULFILLMENT 2. an encroachment or trespass on a right or priveledge : TRESPASS ~~~~~ Now, by what stretch of the imagination do you get your ideas about infringement of rights? Al [standard disclaimer]
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From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer) Subject: Re: sex education Organization: Microsoft Corporation Lines: 44 In article <Mar.26.02.54.26.1993.8940@athos.rutgers.edu> swansond@nextnet.ccs.csus.edu (Dennis Swanson) writes: >In article <Mar.22.02.52.49.1993.330@athos.rutgers.edu> heath@athena.cs.uga.edu (Terrance Heath) writes: >>[...] >>When I do programs, I spend >>about half the time talking about absitinence [...] >>I find that most people who object >>to sex education actually object to the teaching *anything* other than >>abstinencne, and that IMO is just as irresponsible as only talking >>about comdom use. > >I'm under the impression that most sex ed instructors and/or policy makers >actually object to making any more than a passing reference to abstinence, >wishing to spend time only on the "realistic" choices. In the "sex ed" portion of the high school "health" course I took in 1984, it was impressed that the only 100% positive way to *not* get pregnant was to *not* have sex. Other methods of contraception were discussed, in the framework of a chart which showed both the _expected_ failure rate (theoretical, assumes no mistakes) and the _actual_ failure rate (based on research). Top of the chart was something like this: Method Expected Actual ------ Failure Rate Failure Rate Abstinence 0% 0% And NFP (Natural Family Planning) was on the bottom. The teacher even said, "I've had some students tell me that they can't use anything for birth control because they're Catholic. Well, if you're not married and you're a practicing Catholic, the *top* of the list is your slot, not the *bottom*. Even if you're not religious, the top of the list is safest." Yes, this was a public school and after Dr Koop's "failing abstinence, use a condom" statement on the prevention of AIDS. -jen -- #include <stdisclaimer> // jenk@microsoft.com // msdos testing
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From: maf@dtek.chalmers.se (Martin Forssen) Subject: Re: german keyboard, X11R5 and Sparc Nntp-Posting-Host: hacket.dtek.chalmers.se Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden Lines: 11 claes@polaris (Heinz-Josef Claes) writes: >I have a Sparc[12] with a german type 4 keyboard. >Has anybody a Patch for X11R5? export.lcs.mit.edu:/pub/sunkbd..930314.tar.Z /MaF -- Martin Forssen: maf@dtek.chalmers.se or maf@math.chalmers.se System administrator at math and dtek at Chalmers univ. of technology
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From: dave@einstein.andi.org (David Scheck) Subject: imake (X11R4) cpp problems on AIX Keywords: imake X11R4 AIX Nntp-Posting-Host: einstein.andi.org Organization: Association of NeXTSTEP Developers International Lines: 28 I am trying to build and use imake (X11R4) on an IBM RS/6000 running AIX V3.2. I am having the following 2 problems. (1) Many of my Imakefile's have contructs like /**/#This is a makefile at the start of lines to pass Makefile comments thru the C preprocessor and into the Makefile. Most of the C preprocessors that I have used will not treat such a # as appearing at the start of the line. Thus the C preprocessor does not treat the hash symbol as the start of a directive. However the IBM cpp strips the comment and treats the hash symbol as the start of a directive. The cpp fails when it determines that "This" is not a known directive. I have temporarily hacked my imake to handle this situation but would like to come up with a better fix. (2) Several Imakefiles use /**/ as a parameter to a macro when a particular use of the macro does not need a value for the parameter. The AIX cpp gives warnings about these situations but continues to work OK. If you are familiar with these problems and have solutions, I would appreciate information about on your solutions. (Perhaps, this is solved in a later version of imake that I have not reviewed.) Also, do you know of other cpp's that behave similarly? Since I do not have easy access to News, a response to 'white_billy@po.gis.prc.com' would be appreciated.
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From: sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu (Doug Mohney) Subject: Re: Moonbase race Organization: Computer Aided Design Lab, U. of Maryland College Park Lines: 22 Reply-To: sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: queen.eng.umd.edu In article <1993Apr21.204941.15055@iti.org>, aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes: >In article <1r46o9INN14j@mojo.eng.umd.edu> sysmgr@king.eng.umd.edu writes: > >>So how much would it cost as a private venture, assuming you could talk the >>U.S. government into leasing you a couple of pads in Florida? > >Why would you want to do that? The goal is to do it cheaper (remember, >this isn't government). Instead of leasing an expensive launch pad, >just use a SSTO and launch from a much cheaper facility. Allen, sometimes I think you're OK. And sometimes you tend to rashly leap into making statement without thinking them out. Wanna guess which today? You'd need to launch HLVs to send up large amounts of stuff. Do you know of a private Titan pad? Software engineering? That's like military intelligence, isn't it? -- > SYSMGR@CADLAB.ENG.UMD.EDU < --
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From: strataki@atalante.csi.forth.gr (Manolis Stratakis) Subject: Any Comments on EISA bus Book? Organization: FORTH - ICS, P.O.Box 1385, Heraklio, Crete, Greece 71110 tel: +30(81)221171, 229302 fax: +30(81)229342,3 tlx: 262389 CCI Lines: 29 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: atalante.csi.forth.gr Keywords: EISA, ISA Hello, I have the following list of books about ISA/EISA buses: 1. ISA System Architecture by Tom Shanley/Don Anderson MindShare Press, 1993 $34.95 2. EISA System Architecture by Tom Shanley/Don Anderson MindShare Press, 1993 $24.95 3. ISA, EISA: PC,XT,AT,E-ISA,ISA, and EISA I/O timing and specs. by Edward Solari, Copyright 1992 ISBN: 0-929392-15-9 4. AT Bus Design by Edward Solari, Copyright 1990 ISBN: 0-929392-08-6 5. Interfacing to the IBM PC/XT by Eggebrecht, Lewis C. Copyright 1990 Do you have any comments on any of them? Please reply by e-mail, Thanks in advance, Manolis Stratakis.
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From: paul@hsh.com (Paul Havemann) Subject: Re: Clinton's immunization program Distribution: usa Organization: HSH Associates Lines: 47 In article <C5FJsL.6Is@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM>, mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes: > On the news last night Clinton was bashing the republicans for stonewalling > his so called stimulus package. > It seems that one small item within this package was going to pay for free > immunizations for poor kids. > So now Clinton is claiming that the republicans are holding the health of > poor kids hostage for blatantly political gains. > > Aside from the merits (or lack thereof) of another free immunization program, > just what is such a program doing in a bill that is supposedly about > creating jobs. Jobs? What the hell have jobs to do with it? It's another touchy-feely program from the new, vapid administration. The fact is, the major claim made for "universal" immunization -- that "all children will be immunized" -- has absolutely no validity. Several states already have U.I. programs, have had these programs for _years_. The result: on average, their success rates are no better than the national average. It seems that the gummint hasn't yet figured out a way to MAKE parents bring their kids in. Yet another case of shameless demagoguery from the "new" Democrats, the "agents of change." > If Clinton is so hot to get this immunization program, why doesn't he and > the democrats just introduce it as a stand alone bill. Isn't it possible > that Clinton is the one doing the blatant political (read pork) manipulations > here. He is telling the republicans, pass my muti-billion dollar package, > or I will go to the people and tell them that you are opposed to > immunizing poor kids. What? Clinton using this issue for _partisan gain_? Do tell. > I have never thought highly of Clinton, but stunts like this lower my > opinion of him even further. > > I thought one of Clinton's campaign themes was that he was going to be > a new kind of politician. This kind of manuevering would have made LBJ > proud. All together now... c'mon, you know the words... "Meet the new boss! Same as the old boss!" And the chorus: "We won't get fooled again!" ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ Paul Havemann (Internet: paul@hsh.com) * They're not just opinions -- they're caffeine for the brain! * ** (Up to 50 milligrams per cynical observation.) ** Recommended Minimum Daily Requirement: 1,000 mg. Keep reading.
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From: pwb@aerg.canberra.edu.au (Paul Blackman) Subject: Re: moving icons Article-I.D.: csc.1993Apr22.233213.7644 Organization: University of Canberra Lines: 20 In article <1bp0rAHPBh107h@viamar.UUCP> rutgers!viamar!kmembry writes: >I remember reading about a program that made windows icons run away >from the mouse as it moved near them. Does anyone know the name >of this program and the ftp location (probably at cica) > The file is frite20.zip and you'll find it in the 'icons' directory at Cica. The one line description is: Afflict Your Icons with "Cursorphobia" ~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~ o | Paul Blackman pwb@science.canberra.edu.au o | Water Research Centre, pwb@aerg.canberra.edu.au o _ | Faculty of Applied Science -- (") o | University of Canberra, Australia. \_|_-- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | "Spend a little love and get high" _/ \_ | - Lenny Kravitz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: Daniel.J.Stern@dartmouth.edu (Daniel J. Stern) Subject: Seeking info on wear on monitors X-Posted-From: InterNews 1.0b16@dartmouth.edu Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Lines: 12 We are Dartmouth engineering students.We are looking for documented data regarding the wear associated with turning on an off a monitor and how it relates to power consumption. Interested in a comparison between the wear on a monitor which is left on continuously and one which is turned off when not in use. Please personalize E-mail to: ds@Dartmouth.edu Thank you, Dan Stern Oliver Weir
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From: jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joseph Hernandez) Subject: MLB Standings and Scores for Fri., Apr. 16th, 1993 Organization: JTC Enterprises Sports Division (Major League Baseball Dept.) Lines: 72 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu Keywords: mlb, 04.16 MLB Standings and Scores for Friday, April 16th, 1993 (including yesterday's games) NATIONAL WEST Won Lost Pct. GB Last 10 Streak Home Road San Francisco Giants 06 04 .600 -- 6-4 Won 1 03-01 03-03 Houston Astros 05 04 .556 0.5 5-4 Lost 1 00-03 05-01 Atlanta Braves 06 05 .545 0.5 5-5 Lost 2 03-03 03-02 Colorado Rockies 03 05 .375 2.0 3-5 Won 1 03-03 00-02 Los Angeles Dodgers 03 07 .300 3.0 3-7 Lost 4 00-03 03-04 San Diego Padres 02 07 .222 3.5 2-7 Lost 4 00-04 02-03 Cincinnati Reds 02 07 .222 3.5 2-7 Lost 3 01-02 01-05 NATIONAL EAST Philadelphia Phillies 08 01 .889 -- 8-1 Won 5 05-01 03-00 Pittsburgh Pirates 07 02 .778 1.0 7-2 Won 4 03-02 04-00 St. Louis Cardinals 07 02 .778 1.0 7-2 Won 3 04-02 03-00 New York Mets 04 04 .500 3.5 4-4 Lost 1 02-03 02-01 Chicago Cubs 04 05 .444 4.0 4-5 Won 1 01-02 03-03 Montreal Expos 04 05 .444 4.0 4-5 Won 1 01-02 03-03 Florida Marlins 03 06 .333 5.0 3-6 Won 1 02-04 01-02 AMERICAN WEST Won Lost Pct. GB Last 10 Streak Home Road Texas Rangers 06 02 .750 -- 6-2 Lost 1 04-02 02-00 California Angels 05 02 .714 0.5 5-2 Won 3 03-02 02-00 Chicago White Sox 04 04 .500 2.0 4-4 Won 1 02-03 02-01 Minnesota Twins 04 04 .500 2.0 4-4 Lost 1 01-02 03-02 Oakland Athletics 04 04 .500 2.0 4-4 Lost 2 04-02 00-02 Seattle Mariners 04 04 .500 2.0 4-4 Lost 1 03-02 01-02 Kansas City Royals 02 07 .222 4.5 2-7 Won 1 01-05 01-02 AMERICAN EAST Boston Red Sox 07 02 .778 -- 7-2 Won 3 03-00 04-02 Toronto Blue Jays 05 03 .625 1.5 5-3 Won 1 04-02 01-01 New York Yankees 05 04 .556 2.0 5-4 Lost 1 02-01 03-03 Detroit Tigers 04 04 .500 2.5 4-4 Won 2 02-00 02-04 Cleveland Indians 03 06 .333 4.0 3-6 Lost 3 02-01 01-05 Milwaukee Brewers 02 05 .286 4.0 2-5 Lost 4 00-02 02-03 Baltimore Orioles 02 06 .222 4.5 2-6 Won 1 00-02 02-04 YESTERDAY'S SCORES (IDLE teams listed in alphabetical order) NATIONAL LEAGUE AMERICAN LEAGUE Houston Astros 1 Seattle Mariners 1 Montreal Expos 2 Toronto Blue Jays 3 New York Mets 3 Oakland Athletics 2 Colorado Rockies 5 Detroit Tigers 3 Pittsburgh Pirates 5 Kansas City Royals 5 San Diego Padres 4 (13) New York Yankees 4 St. Louis Cardinals 4 Cleveland Indians 3 Los Angeles Dodgers 2 Boston Red Sox 4 (13) Atlanta Braves 1 California Angels PPD San Francisco Giants 6 Milwaukee Brewers RAIN Chicago Cubs IDLE Baltimore Orioles IDLE Cincinnati Reds IDLE Chicago White Sox IDLE Florida Marlins IDLE Minnesota Twins IDLE Philadelphia PhilliesIDLE Texas Rangers IDLE -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Hernandez | RAMS | | /.\ ******* _|_|_ / | LAKERS jtchern@ocf.Berkeley.EDU | KINGS | |__ | | DODGERS _|_|_ | | RAIDERS jtcent@soda.Berkeley.EDU | ANGELS |____||_|_| ******* | | |___| CLIPPERS -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) Subject: New Study Out On Gay Percentage Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA Lines: 27 From the Santa Rosa (Cal.) Press-Democrat, April 15, 1993, p. B2: Male sex survey: Gay activity low A new natonal study on male sexual behavior, the most thorough examination of American men's sexual practices published since the Kinsey report more than four decades ago, shows about 2 percent of the men surveyed had engaged in homosexual sex and 1 percent considered themselves exclusively homosexual. The figures on homosexuality in the study released Wednesday by the Alan Guttmacher Institute are significantly lower than the 10 percent figure that has been part of the conventional wisdom since it was published in the Kinsey report. The article also contains numbers on the number of sexual partners. The median number of sexual partners for all men 20-39 was 7.3. Compared to the table I have already posted from Masters, Johnson, and Kolodny showing male homosexual partners, it is apparent that homosexual men are dramatically more promiscuous than the general male population. It's a shame that we don't have a breakdown for straight men vs. gay/bi men -- that would show even more dramatically how much more promiscuous gay/bi men are. -- Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine! Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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From: kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Keith Keller) Subject: Entry form for playoff pool Organization: University of Pennsylvania, School of Arts and Sciences Lines: 43 Nntp-Posting-Host: mail.sas.upenn.edu Okay, here's the entry sheet. Keep in mind that not all spots are decided, so it may change. Series Your Pick Games Division Semis NY Islanders-Pittsburgh New Jersey-Washington Buffalo-Boston Montreal-Quebec St. Louis-Chicago Toronto-Detroit Winnipeg-Vancouver Los Angeles-Calgary Division Finals Patrick Adams Norris Smythe Conference Finals Wales Campbell Stanley Cup winner See previous post for scoring. Good luck! -- Keith Keller LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!! LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!! kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!! "When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you."
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From: jb@access.digex.com (jb) Subject: Re: >>> Bally's/Holiday Health Club \\\ LIFETIME MEMERSHIP /// Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net In article <C5J5K1.w0@visgraph.uucp> forrie@visgraph.uucp (Forrest Aldrich) writes: > >For sale: Life Time membership to the Ballys'/Holiday Fitness club. The >original fee paid for this was over 1,000, and I'll sell it for 600. The >membership is fully transferrable via proper paperwork. > Does is include raquetball? Is it good at Espree? What is the annual fee? Thanks, John
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From: caronni@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Germano Caronni) Subject: Re: More technical details Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH Lines: 120 Hmm, followup on my own posting... Well, who cares. First let me try to work out the facts that we get to know about the Clipper-Chip, from what Hellman and Denning were able to tell us: The chip itself is not confined to (digital) telephony, but performs general encryption in a symmetric manner. The chip supports CFB OFB ECB (and whatever the fourth mode of operation for DES is), the algorithm consists of 32 rounds of *whatever*, and takes 80-Bit keys. Input data seems to be 64 Bit? Yes. So if two people want secure communication (whatever that means when Clipper is involved) they have first to agree on ONE secret key. (Or is it one key per direction ?) They can exchange this key via DH-schemes or however. Somehow the two feed their so won secret key into the Clipper-chip which is now ready to work. The clipper chip carries an unique Serial-Number (30 Bit's), and 160 Key-Bits. These 160 key-bits seem to have been gained by encrypting the serial-number with 160 seed-bits. (The seed-bits seem not to be stored in the chip) At beginning of communication (and perhaps at certain invtervals whithin??) before sending the fist real 64-bit output of the first encryption the Clipper chip put's out packets (I guess 3) which represent the serial number, and the session key. This might look like X{ E[K; chipkeyK1+K2], serial number} where X is a transformation of these 3? Packets involving a family-key. This family(sp?)-key is equal for ALL chips. (X might be a simple XOR ???) After that, the (digital?) phone-call can be done as usual, every packet being encrypted and decrypted by Clipper. Denning describes how K1 and K2 shall be generated, using a seed of 160 Bit's. Now, leaving alone politics, which does not concern me as much as you, not being an American Citicien(tm) [ :-) ] , there are some weak points in this scheme, which might be exploited by several parties. As far as I know about the generation of K1,K2 ; S1 and S2 look like the obvious backdoor. They could be used to generate the chip-keys by knowing the serial-number (and also the family-key) of the chip. I really can't imagine why these seeds would be needed otherwise, as true random-sources for the generation of the K1,K2 can be bought for not to much money. Then, the escrows. Each of them will get 80 bit of a 160-Bit key. Security could (as little as existant) be maximized by giving them 160-bits each, which have to be xored together to give the K1,K2. Now let's simply assume the escrows are trustworthy, and can't be fooled by criminals or law enforchemnt agencies. (And there will be no quarrel between escrows and l.e.a which would hinder the l.e.a in doing their duties, and so on and so on) Once the keys are surrendered, the corresponding chip is compromised forever. Not very clever, IMHO [ :-)) ]. How about sending in the encrypted session-keys for each phone-call that the police (or whoever) want's to listen to? Escrows could then simply decode this session-key and send it back to police. (And would naturally not do this after the warrant has expired...) This would be a better technical solution, but I guess politics will not work that way. Apparently (as Miss Dennings stated) the only one performing actually decodes of intercepted messages shall be the FBI. Great. So local guys can not inter- cept (understand) your traffic anymore. Does this mean that the FBI monopolizes the right to do legal wiretaps ? (How is law over there, I have no idea who is allowed to tap, and who not) This certainly means that watched communi- cations will be routed automatically from the service-providing company to the FBI, if the communicaiton is a watched one. And this means as far as I understand it that the family-key has to be known by each switching- company, and those providing cellular-phone servies etcetc. So the family-key will not be very secret, and thus serial-numbers of calls will be readable by anybody who cares. I _like_ traffic-analysis! What do you guess, what happens, if you use the chip in ECB mode, and the first few packets of the chip are somehow lost or garbled? So the session key would not be actually broadcasted over the line? Hmmm. Shouldn't be so difficult to do *that* :^) And now a last point, for the other side. After all I have read and heard about Clipper (not the programming language for dBase, is it ? [:-)]) it seems to have many advantages, which shold not be overseen! Now an afterthought to your rights. Please note that I have no idea what I am talking about!!! From: grady@netcom.com (1016/2EF221) > Amendment 1 > > Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or >prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, >or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to >petition the Government for a redress of grievances. If this text is actually in your Bill of Rights, who can overrule this ? But: 'Freedom of speech' is not 'Secrecy of speech' Maybe you need to extend your Amendment #4 to cover information and communication too ? I am not very sure in what position your government actually is *legally* when it tries to ban cryptography (and arms) Amendment say you may have them, but not under what conditions. Hmm, tricky situation :-( Actually it will make not much sense to discuss that topic in sci.crypt... Discussion of technical details and vulnerabilites of the system are highly suggested and appreciated :-) Friendly greetings, Germano Caronni DISCLAIMER: Everything in here is derived from things I heard and read from other persons, so everything could be wrong. All opinions and thoughts in here are mine, and subject to change without further notification. No warranty, neither implicit not explicit etc. etc. etc. ad nauseam. p.s. Please don't ask me about political opinions, as I might not bother to re- ply. (For further information read the last line of P. Metzgers signature) -- Instruments register only through things they're designed to register. Space still contains infinite unknowns. PGP-Key-ID:341027 Germano Caronni caronni@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch FD560CCF586F3DA747EA3C94DD01720F
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From: gould@waterloo.hp.com (Dan Gould) Subject: Telephone Controlled Power Bar Needed Nntp-Posting-Host: hppadan.waterloo.hp.com Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.9] Lines: 16 I would appreciate some help in locating a telephone controlled power bar for my PC. The unit would power up the PC when the telephone rings and keep it up as long as the telephone connection is present. I also need to be able to power up this same PC through the use of an external timer. I can supply power or a contact closure to do this. I will summarize and post the results of this query here. Thank you. -- Dan Gould gould@waterloo.hp.com
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From: scip2060@nusunix1.nus.sg (SARDJONO INSANI) Subject: Connecting Apple Laserwriter II to IBM PC Organization: National University of Singapore X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6] Lines: 11 Has anyone tried connecting an Apple Laserwriter II to a PC? Do I need any special controller card or software to do that? Thanks for any comments. -- ======================== Sardjono Insani scip2060@nusunix1.nus.sg ========================
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From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman) Subject: Re: BaseballIsDead Organization: American Software Development Corp., West Babylon, NY Lines: 29 In article <1993Apr8.195853.10650@midway.uchicago.edu> as16@midway.uchicago.edu writes: >My question to you all is why does the media seem to embrace the theme of the >death of baseball so strongly? I have seen articles of a similar vein in >the Chicago Tribune and in sports editorials on tv. Maybe because baseball is the only business where those who are responsible for the fiscal aspects of the game preach gloom and doom. These allegedly intelligent people seem to predict bad times, losing money, bankruptcies at an alarming rate, and there's going to be an increased degradation of the product they produce. Could you imagine IBM, with all their problems, promoting themselves the way Major League Baseball does? Their stock would plummet to unthinkable depths (not that they are too far from it now :-). What would happen at GM? Where would GM be if they admitted to cutting corners and producing an inferior product because of alleged labor problems? I think it shows a lack of confidence for the people who run the game. >Anyway, it just frustrates me when the media says such things, because it >inevitably leads to owners trying quick fixes like increasing play-offs to >satisfy television or trying interleague play to drum up interest. Forget it. Word has it three divisions with a wild card is just about a done deal. It has to be decided soon since negotiations with the networks also have to begin soon. -- scott barman | Mets Mailing List (feed the following into your shell): scott@asd.com | mail mets-request@asd.com <<! | subscribe Let's Go Mets! | !
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From: mlipsie@rdm09.std.com (Mike Lipsie MPU) Subject: Re: ATM Organization: Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratories, Inc. Lines: 27 In article <1r1jq4$af5@network.ucsd.edu> adean@weber.ucsd.edu (Anthony V. Dean) writes: > >I've been reading, with much confusion, about whether or not to use >ATManager. Lately, all the packages I've been buying have all >included ATManager as a "bonus" Adobe has been doing this for years. >I do some desktop publishing using PageMaker and Coreldraw. >Coreldraw comes with a nifty laser disk that contains over 200 diff >types. Add that to the TTfonts that come with win31 and you have a >decent amount of fonts. I print my creations out on an HP4 >Postcript, at 600 dpi resolution with the "Resolution Enhancement >Technology" and .. well ... I get some darn good copies. >So good that there isn't any diff whether or not ATManager is turned >on or not. Is it worth it to run ATM at all? Especially with these >better printer technologies ... and TT? There are some fonts that are only available as PS fonts. If you have a PS font that you want to use, use ATM. Otherwise, it is a waste of system resources. Personally, I use both. -- Mike Lipsie (work) mlipsie@ca.merl.com Mitsubishi Electronic Research Laboratory (home) mikel@dosbears.UUCP
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From: wcsbeau@alfred.carleton.ca (OPIRG) Subject: Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition? Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Lines: 43 In article <1993Apr14.122647.16364@tms390.micro.ti.com> david@tms390.micro.ti.com (David Thomas) writes: >>In article <13APR199308003715@delphi.gsfc.nasa.gov>, packer@delphi.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes: >>>Is there such a thing as MSG (monosodium glutamate) sensitivity? >>>I saw in the NY Times Sunday that scientists have testified before >>>an FDA advisory panel that complaints about MSG sensitivity are >>>superstition. Anybody here have experience to the contrary? >>> >>>I'm old enough to remember that the issue has come up at least >>>a couple of times since the 1960s. Then it was called the >>>"Chinese restaurant syndrome" because Chinese cuisine has >>>always used it. > >So far, I've seen about a dozen posts of anecdotal evidence, but >no facts. I suspect there is a strong psychological effect at >work here. Does anyone have results from a scientific study >using double-blind trials? Check out #27903, just some 20 posts before your own. Maybe you missed it amidst the flurry of responses? Yet again, the use of this newsgroup is hampered by people not restricting their posts to matters they have substantial knowledge of. For cites on MSG, look up almost anything by John W. Olney, a toxicologist who has studied the effects of MSG on the brain and on development. It is undisputed in the literature that MSG is an excitotoxic food additive, and that its major constituent, glutamate is essentially the premierie neurotransmitter in the mammalian brain (humans included). Too much in the diet, and the system gets thrown off. Glutamate and aspartate, also an excitotoxin are necessary in small amounts, and are freely available in many foods, but the amounts added by industry are far above the amounts that would normally be encountered in a ny single food. By eating lots of junk food, packaged soups, and diet soft drinks, it is possible to jack your blood levels so high, that anyone with a sensitivity to these compounds will suffer numerous *real* physi9logical effects. Read Olney's review paper in Prog. Brain Res, 1988, and check *his* sources. They are impecable. There is no dispute. --Dianne Murray wcsbeau@ccs.carleton.ca
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cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!portal.austin.ibm.com!awdprime.austin.ibm.com!karner Subject: Re: Islamic marriage? From: karner@austin.ibm.com (F. Karner) <C4qAv2.24wG@austin.ibm.com> <1993Apr2.103237.4627@Cadence.COM> Organization: IBM Advanced Workstation Division Originator: frank@karner.austin.ibm.com Lines: 50 In article <1993Apr2.103237.4627@Cadence.COM>, mas@Cadence.COM (Masud Khan) writes: > In article <C4qAv2.24wG@austin.ibm.com> karner@austin.ibm.com (F. Karner) writes: > > > >Okay. So you want me to name names? There are obviously no official > >records of these pseudo-marriages because they are performed for > >convenience. What happens typically is that the woman is willing to move > >in with her lover without any scruples or legal contracts to speak of. > >The man is merely utilizing a loophole by entering into a temporary > >religious "marriage" contract in order to have sex. Nobody complains, > >nobody cares, nobody needs to know. > > > >Perhaps you should alert your imam. It could be that this practice is > >far more widespread than you may think. Or maybe it takes 4 muslim men > >to witness the penetration to decide if the practice exists! > >-- > > > > Again you astound me with the level of ignorance you display, Muslims > are NOT allowed to enter temporary marriages, got that? There is > no evidence for it it an outlawed practise so get your facts > straight buddy. Give me references for it or just tell everyone you > were lying. It is not a widespread as you may think (fantasise) in > fact contrary to your fantasies it is not practised at all amongst > Muslims. First of all, I'm not your buddy! Second, read what I wrote. I'm not talking about what muslims are ALLOWED to do, merely what *SOME* practice. They consider themselves as muslim as you, so don't retort with the old and tired "they MUST NOT BE TRUE MUSLIMS" bullshit. If I gave you the names what will you do with this information? Is a fatwa going to be leashed out against the perpetrators? Do you honestly think that someone who did it would voluntarily come forward and confess? With the kind of extremism shown by your co-religionaries? Fat chance. At any rate, there can be no conclusive "proof" by the very nature of the act. Perhaps people that indulge in this practice agree with you in theory, but hope that Allah will forgive them in the end. I think it's rather arrogant of you to pretend to speak for all muslims in this regard. Also, kind of silly. Are you insinuating that because the Koranic law forbids it, there are no criminals in muslim countries? This is as far as I care to go on this subject. The weakness of your arguments are for all netters to see. Over and out... -- DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed in this posting are mine solely and do not represent my employer in any way. F. A. Karner AIX Technical Support | karner@austin.vnet.ibm.com
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From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) Subject: Re: Eugenics Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Lines: 7 In article <19617@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes: >we do this? Should we make a race of disease-free, long-lived, >Arnold Schwartzenegger-muscled, supermen? Even if we can. > Sure, as long as they'll make one for me.
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From: v5914ane@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Steve) Subject: Wanted Ultima 5 for IBM Organization: University at Buffalo Lines: 4 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Nntp-Posting-Host: ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu I am looking for Ultima V for the IBM, I would like the entire package (meaning I need more than just the game, I would like the Docs also) Since it is an old game I do not want to pay a lot of money. If you are interested in selling this game please respond to this message.
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From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Matthew MacIntyre at the National University of Senegal) Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)... Organization: National University of Singapore X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4 Lines: 12 mchaffee@dcl-nxt07 (Michael T Chaffee) writes: : significantly less than the value of many automobiles. And for those who will : argue that the animals out there stealing cars and everything else (not to : mention committing COMPLETELY senseless acts of violence, such as rape) cannot : be valued in terms of money because they are human beings, I submit that they : are not human beings. Jim Callison, I think, is on the right track. And Absolutely. A scratch on my car bothers me more than the death of any number of scum. All of you feel the same way---you just won't admit it. When are people going to realise that the mere fact that a piece of flesh moves and has the approximate shape of a human being does not in itself mean that it has "rights"?
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From: banschbach@vms.ocom.okstate.edu Subject: Candida(yeast) Bloom, Fact or Fiction Lines: 187 Nntp-Posting-Host: vms.ocom.okstate.edu Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine I can not believe the way this thread on candida(yeast) has progressed. Steve Dyer and I have been exchanging words over the same topic in Sci. Med. Nutrition when he displayed his typical reserve and attacked a women poster for being treated by a liscenced physician for a disease that did not exist. Calling this physician a quack was reprehensible Steve and I see that you and some of the others are doing it here as well. Let me tell you who the quacks really are, these are the physicans who have no idea how the human body interacts with it's environment and how that balance can be altered by diet and antibiotics. These are the physicians who dismiss their patients with difficult symptomatology and make them go from doctor to doctor to find relief(like Elaine in Sci. Med. Nutrition) and then when they find one that solves their problem, the rest start yelling quack. Could it just be professional jealousy? I couldn't help Elaine or Jon but somebody else did. Could they know more than Me? No way, they must be a quack. I've been teaching a human nutrition course for Medical students for over ten years now and guess who the most receptive students are? Those that were raised on farms and saw first-hand the effect of diet on the health of their farm animals and those students who had made a dramatic diet change prior to entering medical school(switched to the vegan diet). Typically, this is about 1/3 of my class of 90 students. Those not interested in nutrition either tune me out or just stop coming to class. That's okay because I know that some of what I'm teaching is going to stick and there will be at least a few "enlightened" physicians practicing in the U.S. It's really too bad that most U.S. medical schools don't cover nutrition because if they did, candida would not be viewed as a non-disease by so many in the medical profession. In animal husbandry, an animal is reinnoculated with "good" bacteria after antibiotics are stopped. Medicine has decided that since humans do not have a ruminant stomach, no such reinnoculation with "good" bacteria is needed after coming off a braod spectrum antibiotic. Humans have all kinds of different organisms living in the GI system(mouth, stomach, small and large intestine), sinuses, vagina and on the skin. These are nonpathogenic because they do not cause disease in people unless the immune system is compromised. They are also called nonpathogens because unlike the pathogenic organisms that cause human disease, they do not produce toxins as they live out their merry existence in and on our body. But any of these organisms will be considered pathogenic if it manages to take up residence within the body. A poor mucus membrane barrier can let this happen and vitamin A is mainly responsible for setting up this barrier. Steve got real upset with Elaine's doctor because he was using anti-fungals and vitamin A for her GI problems. If Steve really understoood what vitamin A does in the body, he would not(or at least should not) be calling Elaine's doctor a quack. Here is a brief primer on yeast. Yeast infections, as they are commonly called, are not truely caused by yeasts. The most common organism responsible for this type of infection is Candida albicans or Monilia which is actually a yeast-like fungus. An infection caused by this organism is called candidiasis. Candidiasis is a very rare occurance because, like an E. Coli infection, it requires that the host immune system be severly depressed. Candida is frequently found on the skin and all of the mucous membranes of normal healthy people and it rarely becomes a problem unless some predisposing factor is present such as a high blood glucose level(diabetes) or an oral course of antibiotics has been used. In diabetics, their secretions contain much higher amounts of glucose. Candida, unlike bacteria, is very limited in it's food(fuel) selection. Without glucose, it can not grow, it just barely survives. If it gets access to a lot of glucose, it blooms and over rides the other organisms living with it in the sinuses, GI tract or vagina. In diabetics, skin lesions can also foster a good bloom site for these little buggers. The bloom is usually just a minor irritant in most people but some people do really develop a bad inflammatory process at the mucus membrane or skin bloom site. Whether this is an allergic like reaction to the candida or not isn't certain. When the bloom is in the vagina or on the skin, it can be easliy seen and some doctors do then try to "treat" it. If it's internal, only symptoms can be used and these symptoms are pretty nondiscript. Candida is kept in check in most people by the normal bacterial flora in the sinuses, the GI tract(mouth, stomach and intestines) and in the vaginal tract which compete with it for food. The human immune system ususally does not bother itself with these(nonpathogenic organisms) unless they broach the mucus membrane "barrier". If they do, an inflammatory response will be set up. Most Americans are not getting enough vitamin A from their diets. About 30% of all American's die with less Vitamin A than they were born with(U.S. autopsy studies). While this low level of vitamin A does not cause pathology(blindness) it does impair the mucus membrane barrier system. This would then be a predisposing factor for a strong inflammatory response after a candida bloom. While diabetics can suffer from a candida "bloom" the most common cause of this type of bloom is the use of broad spectrum antibiotics which knock down many different kinds of bacteria in the body and remove the main competition for candida as far as food is concerned. While drugs are available to handle candida, many patients find that their doctor will not use them unless there is evidence of a systemic infection. The toxicity of the anti-fungal drugs does warrant some caution. But if the GI or sinus inflammation is suspected to be candida(and recent use of a broad spectrum antibiotic is the smoking gun), then anti-fungal use should be approrpriate just as the anti-fungal creams are an appropriate treatment for recurring vaginal yeast infections, in spite of what Mr. Steve Dyer says. But even in patients being given the anti-fungals, the irritation caused by the excessive candida bloom in the sinus, GI tract or the vagina tends to return after drug treatment is discontinued unless the underlying cause of the problem is addressed(lack of a "good" bacterial flora in the body and/or poor mucus membrane barrier). Lactobacillus acidophilus is the most effective therapy for candida overgrowth. From it's name, it is an acid loving organism and it sets up an acidic condition were it grows. Candida can not grow very well in an acidic environment. In the vagina, L. acidophilius is the predominate bacteria(unless you are hit with broad spectrum antibiotics). In the GI system, the ano-rectal region seems to be a particularly good reservoir for candida and the use of pantyhose by many women creates a very favorable environment around the rectum for transfer(through moisture and humidity) of candida to the vaginal tract. One of the most effctive ways to minimmize this transfer is to wear undyed cotton underwear. If the bloom occurs in the anal area, the burning, swelling, pain and even blood discharge make many patients think that they have hemorroids. If the bloom manages to move further up the GI tract, very diffuse symptomatology occurs(abdominal discomfort and blood in the stool). This positive stool for occult blood is what sent Elaine to her family doctor in the first place. After extensive testing, he told her that there was nothing wrong but her gut still hurt. On to another doctor, and so on. Richard Kaplan has told me throiugh e-mail that he considers occult blood tests in stool specimens to be a waste of time and money because of the very large number of false positives(candida blooms guys?). If my gut hurt me on a constant basis, I would want it fixed. Yes it's nice to know that I don't have colon cancer but what then is causing my distress? When I finally find a doctor who treats me and gets me 90% better, Steve Dyer calls him a quack. Candida prefers a slightly alkaline environment while bacteria tend to prefer a slightly acidic environment. The vagina becomes alkaline during a woman's period and this is often when candida blooms in the vagina. Vinegar and water douches are the best way of dealing with vaginal problems. Many women have also gotten relief from the introduction of Lactobacillus directly into the vaginal tract(I would want to be sure of the purity of the product before trying this). My wife had this vagina problem after going on birth control pills and searched for over a year until she found a gynocologist who solved the problem rather than just writting scripts for anti-fungal creams. This was a woman gynocologist who had had the same problem(recurring vaginal yeast infections). This M.D. did some digging and came up with an acetic acid and L. Acidophilis douche which she used in your office to keep it sterile. After three treatments, sex returned to our marraige. I have often wondered what an M.D. with chronic GI distress or sinus problems would do about the problem that he tells his patients is a non-existent syndrome. The nonpathogenic bacteria L. acidophilus is an acid producing bacteria which is the most common bacteria found in the vaginal tract of healthy women. If taken orally, it can also become a major bacteria in the gut. Through aresol sprays, it has also been used to innoculate the sinus membranes. But before this innoculation occurs, the mucus membrane barrier system needs to be strengthened. This is accomplished by vitamin A, vitamin C and some of the B-complex vitamins. Diet surveys repeatedly show that Americans are not getting enough B6 and folate. These are probably the segement of the population that will have the greatest problem with this non-existent disorder(candida blooms after antibiotic therapy). Some of the above material was obtained from "Natural Healing" by Mark Bricklin, Published by Rodale press, as well as notes from my human nutrition course. I will be posting a discussion of vitamin A sometime in the future, along with reference citings to point out the extremely important role that vitamin A plays in the mucus membrane defense system in the body and why vitamin A should be effective in dealing with candida blooms. Another effective dietary treatment is to restrict carbohydrate intake during the treatment phase, this is especially important if the GI system is involved. If candida can not get glucose, it's not going to out grow the bacteria and you then give bacteria, which can use amino acids and fatty acids for energy, a chance to take over and keep the candida in check once carbohydrate is returned to the gut. If Steve and some of the other nay-sayers want to jump all over this post, fine. I jumped all over Steve in Sci. Med. Nutrition because he verbably accosted a poster who was seeking advice about her doctor's use of vitamin A and anti-fungals for a candida bloom in her gut. People seeking advice from newsnet should not be treated this way. Those of us giving of our time and knowledge can slug it out to our heart's content. If you saved your venom for me Steve and left the helpless posters who are timidly seeking help alone, I wouldn't have a problem with your behavior. Martin Banschbach, Ph.D. Professor of Biochemistry and Chairman Department of Biochemistry and Microbiology OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine 1111 West 17th St. Tulsa, Ok. 74107 "Without discourse, there is no remembering, without remembering, there is no learning, without learning, there is only ignorance".
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From: pannon@bcsfse.ca.boeing.com (Joe Pannon) Subject: Re: Motif vs. [Athena, etc.] Organization: BOECOM Project - Boeing Computer Services, Seattle, Wa Lines: 14 In article <C5K6ny.AzJ@kirk.bu.oz.au>, bambi@kirk.bu.oz.au (David J. Hughes) writes: |> Ports of Motif to both 386BSD and Linux are available for a fee of about |> $100. This is cost recovery for the person who bought the rights to |> redistribute. The activity in both the BSD and Linux news groups |> pertaining to Motif has been high. ??? I've heard about that Italian guy distributing Motif binaries for 386BSD, but I haven't heard of anybody doing the same thing for Linux. ... and I do follow the Linux news group pretty closely. So, have I missed something? I'd LOVE to get hold of Motif libs for Linux for $100! Regards, Joe Pannon
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From: dbm0000@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (David B. Mckissock) Subject: Washington Post Article on SSF Redesign News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Nntp-Posting-Host: tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center / Cleveland, Ohio Lines: 52 "Space Station Redesign Leader Says Cost Goal May Be Impossible" Today (4/6) the Washington Post ran an article with the headline shown above. The article starts with "A leader of the NASA team in charge of redesigning the planned space station said yesterday the job is tough and may be impossible." O'Connor is quoted saying whether it is possible to cut costs that much and still provide for meaningful research "is a real question for me." O'Connor said "everything is fair game," including "dropping or curtailing existing contracts with the aerospace industry, chopping management of the space station program at some NASA facilities around the country, working closely with the Russian space station Mir, and using unmanned Titan rockets to supplement the manned space shuttle fleet." O'Connor says his team has reviewed 30 design options so far, and they are sorting the serious candidates into three categories based on cost. The Post says O'Connor described the design derived from the current SSF as a high cost option (I believe Kathy Sawyer, the Post writer, got confused here. I listened in on part of O'Connor's briefing to the press on Monday, and in one part of the briefing O'Connor talked about how the White House wants three options, sorted by cost [low, medium, and high]. In another part of the briefing, he discussed the three teams he has formed to look at three options [SSF derivative @ LaRC, modular buildup with Bus-1 @ MSFC, and Single Launch Core ["wingless Orbiter"] @ JSC. Later, in response to a reporters question, I thought I heard O'Connor say the option based on a SSF redesign was a "moderate" cost option, in between low & high cost options. Not the "high cost" option as Sawyer wrote). The article goes on to describe the other two options as "one features modules that could gradually be fitted together in orbit, similar to the Russian Mir. The other is a core facility that could be deposited in orbit in a single launch, like Skylab. That option would use existing hardware from the space shuttle - the fuselage, for example, in its basic structure." The last sentence in the article contradicts the title & the first paragraph. The sentence reads "He [O'Connor] said a streamlined version of the planned space station Freedom is still possible within the administration's budget guidelines."
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From: king@cogsci.ucsd.edu (Jonathan King) Subject: Re: Binaca Blast Deep Drive Derby (BBDDD) Returns Article-I.D.: network.1psmbr$qi Distribution: na Organization: University of California, San Diego Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.ucsd.edu The Engimatic Vincent Gray writes: >king@cogsci.ucsd.edu (Jonathan King) writes: >> >> Even less publicized than this, however, was that the $300,000 >> didn't come from the Padres, but from an un-named source, and that the >> money didn't go to the Blue Jays. In Toronto, the money was diverted >> into a London bank account owned by a shadowy character named Vincent >> Gray. > >I should be so lucky: the account number must have been rejected! :-) Oh, come on. Everybody on the net has heard about "plausible deniability". You're not fooling anybody. >> Soon after that, Gray and Palmer sent word to Ottawa that Canada had >> achieved absolute superiority over the United States in the field of >> baseballistic research, as she controlled both the Acker-Cook >> Pitch-Alike Contest and the Binaca Blast Research Institute. The Prime >> Minister smiled. > >I hope not. To think that I would inadvertantly give any pleasure to >Mulroney _really_ ruins my day. Note how quick Vince was to make the inference that my post claimed that Mulroney was smiling at the baseballistics news. This sure looks like guilty knowledge to me... >Realizing the taterific importance of this work, John Palmer and I >concluded that we might be able to pool some resources. ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ I.e., the $300 grand. >Who will be the stars this year? Can anyone hope to combat Brad >Arnsberg's record start to last year? The early money has to be on "Tom Tom" Bolton, who contributed that clutch grandslam in his first appearance. But I expect lots of strong contenders this year, many of them right here in San Diego. jking
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From: r_turgeo@oz.plymouth.edu (Randy S. Turgeon) Subject: Division by zero error in JACK NICKALUS TOURNAMENT GOLF Article-I.D.: oz.1993Apr6.172218.21494 Reply-To: r_turgeo@oz.plymouth.edu (Randy S. Turgeon) Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H. Lines: 17 I was playing this golf game and something interesting happened. On the 7th hole, I drove the ball down the fairway, when the ball was in mid-flight, the game completely froze. A couple seconds later, the screen went completely black, with an error message in large "Bubble" letters that said DIVISION BY ZERO. I thought it was funny considering I am a computer programmer, and I had never seen an error like this on an actual video game system like Sega or Nintendo (or even Atari or Intellevision years ago). Oh yeah, after the message, there was also what must have been an address, in hexadecimal. I forget the exact hex code that was given. HAS THIS HAPPENED TO ANYONE ELSE??? It must have, my game shouldn't have been the only one to do this. Thanks Randy PSC r_turgeo@oz.plymouth.edu
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From: mauaf@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr P D Simmons) Subject: Why religion and which religion? Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK Lines: 46 My family has never been particularly religious - singing Christmas carols is about the limit for them. Thus I've never really believed in God and heaven, although I don't actually believe that they don't exist either - I'm sort of undecided, probably like a lot of people I guess. Lately I've been thinking about it all a lot more, and I wondered how religious people can be so convinced that there is a God. I feel as though I want to believe, but I'm not used to believing things without proof - just as I can't believe that there definitely isn't a God, so I can't definitely believe that there is. I wondered if most of you were brought up by religious families and never believed any different. Can anyone help me to understand how your belief and faith in God can be so strong. Another question that frequently crosses my mind is which religion is correct?? How do you choose a religion, and how do you know that the Christian God exists and the Gods of other religions don't?? How do you feel about people who follow other religions?? How about atheists?? And people like me - agnostics I suppose. Do you respect their religion, and accept their beliefs as just as valid as your own?? Isn't there contradiction between the religions?? How can your religion be more valid than any others?? Do you have less respect for someone if they're not religious, or if they follow a different religion than you would if they were Christian?? Also, how much of the scriptures are correct?? Are all events in the bible really supposed to have happened, or are they just supposed to be stories with morals showing a true Christian how to behave?? I generally follow most of the Christian ideas, which I suppose are fairly universal throughout all religions - not killing, stealing, etc, and 'Loving my neighbour' for want of a better expression. The only part I find hard is the actual belief in God. Finally, what is God's attitude to people like me, who don't quite believe in Him, but are generally fairly 'good' people. Surely not believing doesn't make me a worse person?? If not, I find myself wondering why I so strongly want to really believe, and to find a religion. Sorry if I waffled on a bit - I was just writing ideas as they came into my head. I'm sure I probably repeated myself a bit too. Thanks for the help, Paul Simmons [There's been enough discussion about evidence for Christianity recently that you may prefer to respond to this via email rather than as a posting. --clh]
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From: ua020@freenet.Victoria.BC.CA (Toby Sinats) Subject: Accelerator for Classic II? Nntp-Posting-Host: freenet.victoria.bc.ca Organization: Camosun College, Victoria B.C, Canada Lines: 4 Does one exist, who makes it, and how much? Thanks:) --
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From: dale@access.digex.com (Dale Farmer) Subject: Re: Gun Control: proud to be a Canuck Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Frank Crary (fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) wrote: : In article <1pqsruINNiae@hp-col.col.hp.com> dduff@col.hp.com (Dave Duff) writes: : The Swiss population is (and well was) far larger than that. I think : your question should be, "...losing sleep over a million expert : riflemen?" Certainly he could have conquered Switzerland, but : a million armed militiamen (especially in a mountainous area, : where tanks' effectiveness is limited) would have made it a : real pain. The question a conqueror would ask, is "is it worth : the trouble?" The more difficult an invasion is, the more likely : the answer would be "no." Certainly a million riflemen (as : opposed to a professional army of only ten or twenty thousand, the : best a country the size of Switzerland could support), makes : invasions more difficult. Hitler invaded Yugoslavia and occupied it. The mountainous portions were sometimes patrolled by the wermacht, but they were certainly not in control. There were two major native factions opposing each other and the germans, It was basically useless to the germans (no production) and a drain on their resources (a armored division and a couple of infantry divisions) Which if my memory is correct, were kind of stuck there up until the allies accepted their surrender. (I think that the allies also let the germans keep some of their weapons for self defense unitil they were able to get to the lowlands, away from the resistance factions. This is from memory, and it is unreliable. --Dale Farmer
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From: flyboy@spf.trw.com (Jeff Wright) Subject: Need pinouts for ext db25 floppy connectors, please Organization: TRW Sensor Data Processing Center, Redondo Beach, CA Distribution: ca Lines: 20 Hi, all. This is my first posting, so be gentle... I have a Zenith external floppy which has a DB25 connector, and I'd like to use it with my Sharp and Toshiba laptops, which also take a DB25 for their ext floppy, but it doesn't work. I have the pinouts for the Zenith, and would like to make adapters so I can use it. Does anyone have pinouts for these or other manufacturers' DB25 ext floppy connectors? I would greatly appreciate this info, either by e-mail or fax. Thanks very much, Jeff, aka flyboy@coyote.trw.com fax (310) 882-8800 -- Jeff Wright (flyboy@spf.trw.com) Phone: (213)812-7332 FAX: (213)812-8800 TRW, One Space Park O2/1769, Redondo Beach, CA 90278
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From: cb@wixer.bga.com (Cyberspace Buddha) Subject: Re: CView answers Keywords: Stupid Programming Organization: Real/Time Communications Lines: 15 renew@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Rene Walter) writes: >over where it places its temp files: it just places them in its >"current directory". I have to beg to differ on this point, as the batch file I use to launch cview cd's to the dir where cview resides and then invokes it. every time I crash cview, the 0-byte temp file is found in the root dir of the drive cview is on. just my $0.13, cb -- Cyberspace Buddha { Why are you looking for more knowledge when you } /(o\ cb@wixer.bga.com \ do not pay attention to what you already know? / \o)/ cb@wixer.cactus.org } "get out of my chair!" -- Hillary to god { peace...
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From: jao@megatest.com (John Oswalt) Subject: Re: legal car buying problems Organization: Megatest Corporation X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3 Distribution: ca Lines: 32 rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie) writes: : In article <9285.27317@stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM> bob@runway.swdc.stratus.com (Bob Hutson) writes: : >After agreeing to terms I signed the contract and drove home in my new : >car. Later that same night I noticed that the terms in the were : >different from the terms I had agreed to. (I made the stupid mistake : >of not checking everything on the contract). This all happened last : >Saturday. : > : >I have heard that there is a "cooling-off" law allowing me three days : >to reconsider the contract. Is this true? Can anyone point me to the : >law? The transaction happened at the dealership, if it matters. : : This cooling off period applies only in certain situations - lik ewhen : you are solicited at home. I also think the cooling off period ends : if you actually accept the merchandise. : : If this were not the case, any car buyer would have the right to return : a slightly used, highly devalued, car 2 days after buying it. Yeah - : that's the trick - if I want to buy a new car, I'd have a firend buy : & return one, then go in and negotiate a better deal on a pre-owned : used car. However, if you agree some terms, and then, when about to sign, the dealer slips you a contract with different terms, and leads you to believe that it embodies the terms you verbally agreed to, that is fraud. There is no 3 day limit on restitution for fraud. You may have to sue (and win) to get out of this. You will almost certainly have to threaten to sue. -- John Oswalt jao@megatest.com or jao@netcom.com
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From: curtiss@cs.UND.NoDak.Edu (Chuck Curtiss x3289) Subject: Athena Widgets Organization: University of North Dakota; Grand Forks, ND Lines: 5 NNTP-Posting-Host: agassiz.cas.und.nodak.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Where do I find the Athena Widgets that are needed for xtdm-2.4.8 Thanks in advance
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From: mucit@cs.rochester.edu (Bulent Murtezaoglu) Subject: Re: ARMENIA SAYS IT COULD SHOOT DOWN TURKISH PLANES In-Reply-To: henrik@quayle.kpc.com 's message of Tue, 20 Apr 1993 23:24:49 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: vein.cs.rochester.edu Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Rochester <MUCIT.93Apr20144400@vein.cs.rochester.edu> <1993Apr20.232449.22318@kpc.com> In article <1993Apr20.232449.22318@kpc.com> henrik@quayle.kpc.com writes: In article <MUCIT.93Apr20144400@vein.cs.rochester.edu>, mucit@cs.rochester.edu (Bulent Murtezaoglu) writes: [...] henrik] Country. Turks and Azeris consistantly WANT to drag ARMENIA into the henrik] KARABAKH conflict with Azerbaijan. BM] Gimme a break. CAPITAL letters, or NOT, the above is pure nonsense. It BM] seems to me that short sighted Armenians are escalating the hostilities ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ henrik] Again, Armenians in KARABAKH are SIMPLY defending themselves. What do henrik] want them to do. Lay down their ARMS and let Azeris walk all over them. News reports I've seen say otherwise both location and motives wise. CAPS don't change facts. BM] while hoping that Turkey will stay out. Stop and think for a moment, BM] will you? Armenia doesn't need anyone to drag her into the conflict, it BM] is a part of it. henrik] Armenians KNEW from the begining that TURKS were FULLY engaged henrik] training AZERIS militarily to fight against KARABAKHI-Armenians. So? Should I, at this point break into caps and start talking about DEFENSE etc.? I don't know how 'fully engaged' Turkey is/was though. henrik] The KARABAKHI-ARMENIANS who have lived in their HOMELAND for 3000 henrik] years (CUT OFF FROM ARMENIA and GIVEN TO AZERIS BY STALIN) are the henrik] ones DIRECTLY involved in the CONFLICT. They are defending henrik] themselves against AZERI AGGRESSION. BM] Huh? You didn't expect Azeri's to be friendly to forces fighting with them BM] within their borders? henrik] Well, history is SAD. Remember, those are relocated Azeris into henrik] the Armenian LAND of KARABAKH by the STALIN regime. So I hear. This justifies bloodshed N years after the fact? henrik] At last, I hope that the U.S. insists that Turkey stay out of the henrik] KARABAKH crisis so that the repeat of the CYPRUS invasion WILL NEVER henrik] OCCUR again. BM] You're not playing with a full deck, are you? Where would Turkey invade? henrik] It is not up to me to speculate but I am sure Turkey would have stepped henrik] into Armenia if SHE could. Why would Turkey do that? Do you not realize that this is a local clash that Turkey never wished to see happen? Turkey has other plans for region, like economic revival, co-operation etc. Good stuff in other words, I'd be happy to bicker with Armenians over trade barriers and such on USENET rather than 'who killed whom in what way' which I detest doing and wouldn't do. BM] Are you throwing the Cyprus buzzword around with s.c.g. in the header BM] in hopes that the Greek netters will jump the gun? henrik] Absolutely NOT ! I am merely trying to emphasize that in many henrik] cases, HISTORY repeats itself. Even if one buys into your implicit premise, the sane thing to do would be to try not to provoke Turkey as was done in '74. If there'd been a democratic government instead of a bunch of idiots in Athens at the time, everybody would have stayed home with their families. [I have no wish to go into the Cyprus quarrel, but I suspect what I've said is not only accurate but also palatable to all parties involved] BM] Yes indeed Turkey has the military prowess to intervene, what she wishes BM] she had, however, is the diplomatic power to stop the hostilities and bring BM] the parties to the negotiating table. That's hard to do when Armenians BM] are attacking Azeri towns. henrik] So, let me understand in plain WORDS what you are saying; Turkey henrik] wants a PEACEFUL END to this CONFLICT. NOT !! So what do you think we want? War, death and destruction? henrik] I will believe it when I see it. No, if you allow yourself to believe it you just might see it. henrik] Now, as far as attacking, what do you do when you see a GUN pointing henrik]to your HEAD ? Do you sit there and WATCH or DEFEND yoursef(fat chance)? This kind of childish rhetoric doesn't help anthing. henrik] Do you remember what Azeris did to the Armenians in BAKU ? All the henrik] BARBERIAN ACTS especially against MOTHERS and their CHILDREN. I mean henrik] BURNING people ALIVE ! Now, some Azeri will come out and give a description of similar stuff perpetrated by Armenians. One should re-hash stuff like this often to keep the hatred alive, right? BM] Armenian leaders are lacking the statesmanship to recognize the BM]futility of armed conflict and convince their nation that a compromise that BM] leads to stability is much better than a military faits accomplis that's BM] going to cause incessant skirmishes. henrik] Armenians in KARABAKH want PEACE and their own republic. They are henrik] NOT asking much. They simply want to get back what was TAKEN AWAY henrik] from them and GIVEN to AZERIS by STALIN. Well they obviously aren't getting anywhere with their current methods of asking (not very peaceful I'd say). BM] Think of 10 or 20 years down the line -- both of the newly independent BM] countries need to develop economically and neither one is going to wipe BM] the other out. These people will be neighbors, would it not be better BM] to keep the bad blood between them minimal? henrik] Don't get me WRONG. I also want PEACEFUL solution to the henrik] conflict. But until Azeris realize that, the Armenians in henrik] KARABAKH will defend themselves against aggresion. I don't know if you want a solution or just want to exchange slogans. Peace isn't what's happening right now, furthermore what's happening right now isn't condusive to peace. You can spend days and nights raving about how 'right' the Armenian position is and I'm sure there'll be others who'd be happy to talk to you by arguing the other side. If entrenched positions lead to war, and if people want peace than they should sit down and talk about a compromise. Armenia isn't strong enough to exercise the 'we think we're right, and we have the bombs, so we'll do whatever we want, so there...' style of foreign relations. Yes you can type Stalin in caps, and give one sided atrocity stories etc. but for peace you need to be willing to talk to the other side. You personally can choose not to do that of course, this being just USENET. The people in power shouldn't be so childish. BM] If you belong to the Armenian diaspora, keep in mind that what strikes BM] your fancy on the map is costing the local Armenians dearly in terms of BM] their blood and future. henrik] Again, you are taking different TURNS. Armenia HAS no intension henrik] to GRAB any LAND from Azerbaijan. The Armenians in KARABAKH henrik] are simply defending themselves UNTIL a solution is SET. Azeri's would disagree with you on this, and the maps I've seen support what they'd be saying. It doesn't seem likely that a solution will be reached in this manner. BM] It's easy to be comfortable abroad and propagandize BM] craziness to have your feelings about Turks tickled. The Armenians BM] in Armenia and N-K will be there, with the same people you seem to hate BM] as their neighbors, for maybe 3000 years more. The sooner there's peace in BM] the region the better it is for them and everyone else. I'd push for BM] compromise if I were you instead of hitting the caps-lock and spreading BM] inflammatory half-truths. henrik] It is NOT up to me to decide the PEACE initiative. I am absolutely henrik] for it. It didn't look it when I read your posting. It would seem to me that if you can spew mis-information about a boogey-man, you can also talk about how one might avoid the nastiness. Fair? henrik] But, in the meantime, if you do not take care of yourself, henrik] you will be WIPED out. Such as the case in the era of 1915-20 of henrik] The Armenian Massacres. You don't realize I can say the same thing about 'The Turkish Massacres.' Yes, boys and girls, let's always talk about how bad and nasty things were. Let's do that so we're overwhelmed by anger, and let's do that so our kids will also be hateful. Sounds crazy doesn't it? Don't do it then. BM
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From: Wilson Swee <ws8n+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: compiling on sun4_411 Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: po5.andrew.cmu.edu Hi, I have a piece of X code that compiles fine on pmax-ul4, pmax_mach, as well as sun4_mach, but whenever it compiles on sun4_411, it gives me undefined ld errors: _sin _cos _pow _floor _get_wmShellWidgetClass _get_applicationShellWidgetClass The following libraries that I linked it to are: -lXaw -lXmu -lXt -lXext -lX11 The makefile is generated off an imake template. Can anyone give me pointers as to what I'm missing out to compile on a sun4_411? Thanx Wilson
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From: bevans@carina.unm.edu (Mathemagician) Subject: Re: Alt.Atheism FAQ: Introduction to Atheism Organization: Society for the Preservation of E. coli Lines: 12 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: carina.unm.edu Keywords: FAQ, atheism I have an addition to the FAQ regarding "why are there no atheist hospitals." If I recall correctly, Johns Hopkins was built to provide medical services without the "backing" of a religious group...thus making it a hospital "dedicated to the glory of [weak] atheism." Might someone check up on this? -- Brian Evans | "Bad mood, bad mood...Sure I'm in a bad mood! bevans@carina.unm.edu | I haven't had sex...*EVER!*" -- Virgin Mary
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From: ware@oboe.cis.ohio-state.edu (Peter Ware) Subject: Re: Private Colormaps & Widget creation Organization: Ohio State Computer Science Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: oboe.cis.ohio-state.edu In-reply-to: nancie@neko.CSS.GOV's message of 2 Apr 1993 14:55:09 -0500 You are right in supposing that the problem is with the XmNcolormap (XtNcolormap for truly literate beings) not being set. What you want to do is start your application with your new colormap. This can be a chicken and egg sort of problem, however. If you look at the Xt FAQ there is an example that should show how it can be done. If not, let me know and maybe I can improve the example. --pete -- Pete Ware ware@cis.ohio-state.edu CIS Dept, Ohio State University w/ (614) 292-7318 228 Bolz Hall, 2036 Neil Ave. h/ (614) 538-0965 Columbus, OH 43210
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From: ge!severy%severy@uunet.UU.NET (severy) Subject: Overriding window manager focus processing Organization: GE Information Services, Rockville, MD Lines: 44 NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu Keywords: Window Manager Focus Motif I am working on an X-Window based application that needs to override some of the window manager focus processing. I am using X11R4 and Motif 1.1 currently, although I will also be working with Open Look in the future. What I need to do is under certain circumstances prevent the user from switching from one window of the application to another window. Let's say, for example, that Window A is on top of Window B in the window hierarchy. Normally, if the user clicks the mouse in Window B it will be brought to the top of the window hierarchy and placed on top of Window A. Under certain circumstances if the user clicks the mouse in Window B I need to beep and prevent Window B from being raised on top of Window A. From the research and testing I've done so far, it appears that this window ordering is handled by the window manager, in this case Motif. I haven't found any way to override this default processing through standard X Window functions. I can tell when this switching occurs through focus change and mapping notify events, but I can't find any way to tell Motif not to make the switch. The temporary solution I've currently come up with is very kludgy but it partially works. When I detect such a window switch in those cases when the switch is not allowed, I manually force the formerly top window back on top with an XRaiseWindow call and beep with the XBell function. This provides the necessary functionality but looks ugly when the windows switch places twice. Does anyone know how I can tell Motif (or preferably *any* window manager) when I don't want the window order switch to actually take place? Respond either by e-mail or posting to this newsgroup. Cheers.... Randall *************************************************************************** * Randall Severy * UUNET: uunet!ge!severy * * GE Information Services * INTERNET: ge!severy@uunet.uu.net * * 401 N. Washington St. MC05A * GENIE: RSEVERY * * Rockville, MD 20850 USA * PHONE: +1-301-340-4543 * ***************************************************************************
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From: ragraca@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Randy A. Graca) Subject: Re: Wings will win Organization: Oakland University, Rochester, Michigan, U.S.A. Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: vela.acs.oakland.edu golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes: >Bryan Murray has done very little as GM...Yzerman, Fedorov, Cheveldae, >Chaisson, the whole Russian strategy was a product of the previous >GM...Murray has made a couple of decent trades...that's about it... >that would hardly rank him as the best GM. >Wasn't Primeau, Murray's first decision as GM... >Gerald There are many teams in the NHL who have taken a liking to Russian players. The "whole Russian strategy" is not specific to Detroit or to Devellano, who was GM before Murray. What the previous GM also did was to trade away several players who have gone on to do well with other teams, most notably (in my memory) Murray Craven, who had a few very good years with Philly after leaving here. Also, it's not the volume of trades that will necessarily improve a team, but the quality of them. Trading Adam Oates for Bernie Federko was just plain stupid, even if Federko used to be a great player at one time. Most of Murray's trades have worked significantly to the Wings' advantage, with those that didn't being soured mainly by injury to the players involved (such as Troy Crowder, who suffered back problems from which he never really recovered). Put Scotty Bowman, Pat Burns, or any of the other better coaches in the league behind the bench of this Detroit team, and they could beat anybody. --Randy
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From: ez027993@dale.ucdavis.edu (Gary Built Like Villanueva Huckabay) Subject: Alomar vs. Baerga - I was hoping to stay out of this. Organization: Julio Lundy Candlelight Vigil Society Distribution: na Lines: 37 (Lyford "Frosty" Beverage) writes: |> Uh, yes. Baerga has a lot of flash, but Alomar was the better hitter |> last year. |> |> BATTERS BA SLG OBP G AB R H TB 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS E |> BAERGA,C .312 .455 .354 161 657 92 205 299 32 1 20 105 35 76 10 2 19 |> ALOMAR,R .310 .427 .405 152 571 105 177 244 27 8 8 76 87 52 49 9 5 |> >This is fascinating. You say that Alomar was the better hitter last >year, and immediately follow that up with numbers showing that Baerga >had a better year. The only category that I see which shows an advantage >for Alomar is OBP. Well, OBP is the most important offensive statistic, and by a big margin. 50 points of OBP is worth considerably more than 50 points of slugging. That being said, I still think Baerga was VERY SLIGHTLY better last year, but I think this is as close to a wash as you're likely to find. I personally don't care much for Alomar's defense. I don't think he's nearly as good as people make him out to be, and he can't turn the DP to save his life. He comes across the bag improperly, and his release is slow. Considering the high leverage of the DP, this is a shortcoming I can't overlook. In the long term, I'd move Alomar to another position. If the Jays could trade a hot Devon White for something, I'll be Alomar could be a hell of a CF. In the long run, I think I'd rather have Jeff Kent at 2B and Alomar in CF than Alomar/White. -- * Gary Huckabay * "You think that's loud enough, a$$hole?" * * "Movie Rights * "Well, if you're having trouble hearing it, sir, * * available thru * I'd be happy to turn it up for you. I didn't * * Ted Frank." * know that many people your age liked King's X." *
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) Subject: Re: Lindros will be traded!!! Article-I.D.: alchemy.1993Apr6.142415.9567 Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department Lines: 14 In article <1993Apr5.163209.576@r-node.hub.org> shadow@r-node.hub.org (Jay Chu) writes: >True rumor. Fact! A big three way deal! > >Eric Lindros going to Ottawa Senators. And Senators get $15mill from >Montreal. > >Montreal gets Alexander Daigle (the first round pick from Senators) > >Philly gets Damphousse, Bellow, Patrick Roy and a draft pick. > Another person incapable of rational thought! Gerald
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From: m_klein@pavo.concordia.ca (CorelMARK!) Subject: Re: Best Homeruns News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Nntp-Posting-Host: pavo1.concordia.ca Organization: Concordia University Lines: 18 I haven't been following the previous HR's. But there are two, that I saw live that would have to be up there (up where? there!). 1) Rick Monday's HR to bury the Expos in the NL championship in 1981. It was hit off Steve Rogers, who is a RHP and primarily a starter. Why was he used as a reliever when the 'Spos had Reardon and BillLee warming up in the bullpen. Considering Monday couldn't touch LHP, Lee would have been a safe bet. He wasn't even doing any drugs at that time (or so he told me and around 50 others on a recent venture into Montreal. The blast wasn't the important aspect. It was the timing. Seventh game, a tie game, and in the top of the 9th. The Expos almost came back though... 2) Mike Schmidt hit one that killed the Expos in 1980. So close, yet, so far. and 3) Strawberry killed a pitch on the second day of the season a couple of years ago. It went off the technical ring in the Big O. It almost left the stadium! That was hit HARD!!! CorelMARK!
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From: bgardner@bambam.es.com (Blaine Gardner) Subject: Re: Protective gear Article-I.D.: dsd.1993Apr6.042624.22937 Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation Lines: 13 Nntp-Posting-Host: bambam In article <C4wKFs.BC1@eskimo.com> maven@eskimo.com (Norman Hamer) writes: >Question for the day: > >What protective gear is the most important? I've got a good helmet (shoei >rf200) and a good, thick jacket (leather gold) and a pair of really cheap >leather gloves... What should my next purchase be? Better gloves, boots, >leather pants, what? What's your favorite body part? :-) -- Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland bgardner@dsd.es.com
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From: btbg1194@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bradley T Banko) Subject: DOS Quick C 2.5 crashes Windows 3.1? Reply-To: b-banko@uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 22 I am using DOS Quick C 2.5 in a DOS window under Windows 3.1, and the other day while I was running the compiler, I got a general protection fault immediately followed by a "serious disk error". When I rebooted, I found that about 15 files had gotten "cross-linked" which is a pretty serious corruption of the hard drive file system. I am concerned that Quick C in a DOS window has somehow strayed outside its protected mode world and corrupted the smartdrv.exe disk cache and that is what caused the disk problem. I thought that DOS programs run in DOS windows were pretty well-contained by Windows. If that is true, then maybe the Quick C compiler has nothing to do with it. Has anybody else had this type of problem? (I only recently "upgraded" from Quick C 2.0 to 2.5.) Brad Banko -- Brad Banko; Dept of Physics; U of Illinois; b-banko@uiuc.edu ========================================================================= See one. Do one. Teach one. 73 de kb8cne @ n9lnq.il
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From: njdevils@IASTATE.EDU (Cire Y. Trehguad) Subject: Re: NHL Team Captains Reply-To: njdevils@IASTATE.EDU (Cire Y. Trehguad) Organization: Iowa State University Lines: 18 Anna Matyas (am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : Michael Collingridge writes: : >And, while we are on the subject, has a captain ever been traded, : >resigned, or been striped of his title during the season? Any other : >team captain trivia would be appreciated. ; : Wasn't Ron Francis captain of the Whalers when he was traded to : Pittsburgh? And Rick Tochett was the captain of the Flyers when traded to the Pens recently... Caleb And let us not forget that the New Jersey Devils traded captain Kirk Muller for Stephen Richer and Chorske Man I hated that trade!
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From: seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr) Subject: FLYERS notes 4/16 Organization: AT&T Keywords: FLYERS/Sabres summary, misc stuff Lines: 283 The FLYERS blew a 3-0 lead over the Buffalo Sabres in the second period, but Kevin Dineen's 7th career hat trick powered them to their 7th consecutive win, 7-4 over the Sabres who have now lost 7 in a row. Alexander Mogilny led the comeback scoring his 75th and 76th goals of the season which tied the game at 3 in the 2nd period and 4 in the 3rd. Tommy Soderstrom stopped 41 of 45 shots on goal to improve his own record to 20-17-6 as he was tested by Mogilny and LaFontaine all night. Roster move: Andre Faust was once again recalled from Hershey, Shawn Cronin was a healthy scratch. Lines: Eklund-Lindros-Recchi Beranek-Brind'Amour-Dineen Lomakin-Butsayev-Conroy Faust-Acton-Brown Galley-Bowen Yushkevich-Hawgood Carkner-McGill Tommy Soderstrom Game Summary: Say, if anybody from Buffalo is reading this, where did you people get that woman who sang the anthems? We had to turn down the volume! The FLYERS defense started out the game showing everybody why the FLYERS have been shutting teams out lately by holding the Sabres to only 8 shots in the first period. They then showed everybody why they will be playing golf Sunday when they gave up 37 shots in the last two periods. Maybe Tommy told them that he was getting bored back there... Mark Recchi opened the scoring so fast that if you blinked you missed it. After Buffalo won the faceoff and dumped, Tommy wrapped the puck around the boards to Eric 1/2 way up on his left. Eric dropped it to Galley, and he sent it ahead to Recchi steaming out of the zone. Mark skated into the center circle, passed the puck to himself through the legs of Richard Smehlik, skated around him and in on Fuhr. Smehlik was pulling at him all the way through the zone with his stick, Recchi drifted right, drifted back left, and slid the puck back to the right past Fuhr for a 1-0 FLYERS lead at 0:18. It was so beautiful Eric and Garry should turn down their assists :-). The FLYERS kept the pressure on Fuhr for a while after that, but he was strong and kept the FLYERS from doing further damage. The game then became a defensive struggle for a while. The Sabres got the first chance on the power play when Terry Carkner took a boarding minor at 10:26 for crunching Dale Hawerchuk into the boards in the FLYERS zone. LaFontaine got the only scoring chance, and not a terribly good one, as the FLYERS smothered the Sabres power play. Mogilny got a post after it was over. The 25th consecutive penalty kill for the FLYERS. Keith Carney took a holding penalty at 13:31 for taking down Mark Recchi to give the FLYERS a power play. The best penalty killing team in the league didn't allow the FLYERS a shot on goal, although the FLYERS did create a good scoring chance for Lindros who partially fanned on his shot. Towards the end of the period the play started going end to end, but everybody kept missing the net. Greg Hawgood took an interference penalty at 18:19 to give the Sabres another power play, but they couldn't get anything going and the fans expressed their displeasure, particularly when they iced the puck. Shots were 8-6 Buffalo after the FLYERS had led 6-2 at one point. Mike Emrick interviewed FLYERS president Jay Snider between periods. Jay was disappointed to not make the playoffs, but not discouraged. This was considered a rebuilding year after *The Trade* and he seemed very happy with the way the season went. When asked if he agonized over *The Trade* he said that it was Russ Farwell's trade and not his, that it only was an issue for him and Ed Snider as far as the money. But yes, there was some agonizing, and they'd do it all over again. When asked how the coaching situation would be handled for next year he said that it's Russ' call, and Russ will evaluate things at the end of the season. He feels that they're 3 years away from a shot at the Cup. He expects to get into the playoffs next year, have a shot at a division title the following year, and a shot at the finals the year after that. This based on the current level of play and anticipated improvements over the summer. He's very happy with the re-alignment (he called it "outstanding"). Happy with the current expansion, feels that the talent pool is big enough with the unflux of Europeans, but feels that they must make sure existing franchises are stable. Seemed to like the idea of playing in the Olympics (booo) but said that there was a definite split among owners and that this certainly would only happen in four years if there was a consensus. The Sabres gave the FLYERS their second power play of the game when Brad May took a tripping penalty at 0:51 of the second. The FLYERS had a little trouble getting started, but eventually did. Hawgood took a pass as he was moving throug the neutral zone and handed the puck to Eklund just outside the Sabres blue line along the right boards. Eklund carried into the zone nad passed across to Dineen who tried a one timer from between the blue line and the top of the left circle. He half fanned on it, and sent the puck trickling through the slot. Fuhr didn't know where it was, though, and Hawgood won the race to it and flipped it into essentially an open net at 2:15. Then Mogilny on a breakaway. He slipped through two FLYERS at the blue line and went in on Soderstrom. He went with the backhander, but Soderstrom was all over it. The FLYERS then took some bad discipline type penalties that really hurt them. Viacheslav Butsayev took a double minor for roughing and high sticking when Barnaby got under his skin and drew one minor, then according to Gary Dornhoefer took a dive to get the other (there was no video) at 4:22. The Sabres coudln't get started. Ryan McGill poked at the puck just after a Sabre carried into the FLYERS zone, and after a bunch of people poked at it Dineen emerged with it and headed the other way. It started out a 1 on 1, but Brind'Amour hustled ahead to make it a 2 on 1 and back off the defenseman. Dineen let it rip from the top of the right circle to make it 3-0 FLYERS at 5:40. That was all for Fuhr, John Muckler sent in Dominik Hasek to take over. But the Sabres still had lots of power play time. Again they took some time to just get into the FLYERS zone, and when they finally did the FLYERS were all over them. Boos began to ring through the building. But they finally got through Soderstrom on an ugly goal. Smehlik took a shot from the top of the zone that missed and kicked out to Hawerchuk in the slot. Hawerchuk tried a backhander as he skated towards the goal line to the right as Galley dove down to block it. Mistake #1, he should have let Soderstrom handle the backhander and worried about A) the rebound or B) Barnaby who was camped behind the goal line right next to the net. Well, the rebound dropped right next to Soderstrom, and mistake #2, Galley just laid there and watched Barnaby get THREE hacks at the puck before he finally pushed it through the goalie. He didn't even swing his stick out to try and knock the puck away. With the goal, at 7:48, two streaks end for the FLYERS. 150:28 of shutout hockey, and 27 straight penalty kills. Lindros put them right back on the power play at 8:36 with a high sticking minor, I think it was Barnaby again. This time the Sabres were able to get set up quickly, but couldn't get too much quality on goal. The Sabres continued to keep the puck in the FLYERS end for a while after the power play ended. Things evetually settled down, but then the other very bad penalty. McGill allowed Barnaby to get under his skin and slashed his stick just before a faceoff. The gloves were dropped, and McGill started pounding the crap out of him. But during the fight, he gave Barnaby a head butt with his helmet, and that meant a match penalty. 2 for slashing, 5 fighting and 5 for the major, 7 minutes of power play time for the Sabres at 14:15, Barnaby only got 5. The FLYERS were keeping them at bay for a while, but there was only so long they could do that. After a couple of good Sabre chances, Audette handed to Ledyard at the point, and Ledyard sent a drive that was knocked down by Soderstrom. LaFontaine whacked at the bouncing puck from the left side of the net, and knocked it over to Randy Wood at the right. Soderstrom had moved over to play LaFontaine, and since Yushkevich and Carkner were waving at the puck instead of picking up men, Wood just slid it into the empty net at 17:34 to close the FLYERS lead to 3-2. LaFontaine was actually trying to put it on net, but half fanned on it and got a break. The FLYERS then got some shorthanded pressure in the Sabres zone, but Hasek was strong. Finally it was Keith Carney passing ahead to Hawerchuk into the neutral zone, and Hawerchuk sent a good backhand pass to Mogilny at the FLYERS blue line. Another mini-breakaway for Mogilny, he elected to shoot from the left circle, and he threaded the needle to get it just inside the far post at 18:56 for his 75th of the season. Ironically, the youth hockey tip between the 1st and second period was Tommy Soderstrom talking about cutting off angles... That was all in the 2nd, shots were 19-7 Sabres. Into the 3rd period, and Pelle EKlund blew a golden opportunity to get the FLYERS the lead back. A 2 on 1, Acton with the puck, he dropped to Eklund in the slot, and Eklund held the puck as he slid through the left circle until he had almost no angle at all to shoot from. When he finally did shoot, he hit the far post. That was still during the carryover power play time. Than an incredible almost goal. Randy Wood skated around Recchi and Hawgood untouched into Soderstrom. Soderstrom goes down, Wood pokes the puck under Soderstrom, and a black object hits the back of the net. Red light comes on, horn sounds, crowd cheers. But up to the video replay booth, for some strange reason, and in the meantime Emrick and Dornhoefer try to figure out what they could be reviewing. Well, it turns out that it was the taped up stick blade that went into the net, not the puck. Emrick mentions that one of the criteria for scoring a goal is that the puck must go into the net... Dave Hannan then took out Recchi and got a holding minor at 2:35. The FLYERS could not get anything going at all. They finally got set up 1/2 way through, but were kept on the perimeter. As time ran out, Beranek stripped the puck from a Sabre in the offensive zone along the right boards and passed it across to Eklund at the top of the left circle. Eklund saw Dineen heading at the net just inside the right circle and passed through to him. Dineen fumbled the pass, but twice directed it at Hasek, and Eklund swooped in and chipped the bouncing puck over the goalie for his 11th at 4:42. 4-3 FLYERS. But the Sabres came right back. LaFontaine picked up the puck in his offensive left corner and slid it to Bob Erry behind the FLYERS net. Erry started to skate out, but then just dropped the puck back to nobody behind the net. Mogilny flew in, skated around, and stuffed it through Soderstrom's 5 hole for his 76th at 5:24 to tie the game at 4. Then Hawerchuk took a retaliatory roughing penalty at 5:55. The FLYERS set up in the Sabres zone, and stayed there. Off a faceoff high in the Sabres zone in the middle. While Brind'Amour wrestled for the puck, Dineen snuck through the line and wristed a perfect shot low to Hasek's glove side at 6:44. Play started to go back and forth until Hawgood took a roughing penalty at 8:19. The FLYERS dumped the puck into the Sabres zone. Brind'Amour and Ledyard went after it, and Rod got the puck. He backed away from the right boards, skated to the right faceoff dot, and passed between his legs to Dineen crashing through the slot all by himself. Dineen waited patiently and lifted it over the blocker of Hasek for a 6-4 FLYERS lead at 8:39. 3rd hat trick of the season for Dineen, 7th of his career, 2nd shorthanded goal of the game for him 35th of the season. Then Carney took a tripping penalty at 9:02 to kill the rest of the Sabres power play. Not much action on the 4 on 4, and the Sabres got most of the chances on the FLYERS resulting power play. Play went end to end for quite a while after that and both goalies had to make some big saves. The Sabres weren't able to pull Hasek as time was running out as the FLYERS wouldn't allow any consistant possession for the Sabres. Finally as time was running out Ken Sutton misplayed the puck in his own left corner and Brind'Amour stripped it away from him. He pulled away and found Dineen on the other side of the left circle, and Dineen found Acton at the right of Hasek. He slid the puck between two Sabres defenders, and Acton chipped it back to the far side of Hasek for his 8th of the season at 19:48 on his 35th birthday. That was all the scoring, shots were 18-13 Buffalo, and the ice was showered with plastic drinking mugs handed out before the game. So another strong game from Tommy Soderstrom who hadn't been tested much in his last couple of starts. Kevin Dineen has a career high 6 point night (unless he had a better night earlier in the season, but I don't think so). The FLYERS longest winning streak in 3 years, 30 goals for only 11 against with three shutouts. Eric Lindros is 8th in league with 33 even strength goals despite missing 23 games with injury. 4 points out of 4th, clinched 5th place since the Rangers lose the tie breaker. A couple misc notes: Forget the Mike Keenan rumors, there will be a press conference tommorrow to announce that he will be head coach of the New York Rangers next year. In the last notes I mentioned that Garry Galley won the Barry Ashbee Award, but I failed to mention that the award is for the best defenseman. The Times of Trenton has reported that "a preeminent specialist from Oklahoma" has looked over Tommy Soderstrom's medical record and determined that no further tests are necessary in the near future. Same paper had a blurb about Bill Dineen being asked about whether or not he expected to be back next year. His response was that he wants to come back, he feels he did a good job this year, but that he would cheerfully accept a role scouting if Farwell didn't want him back. FLYERS team record watch: Eric Lindros: 41 goals, 33 assists, 74 points (rookie records) club record goals: club record points: Eric Lindros 40 1992-93 Dave Poulin 76 1983-84 Brian Propp 34 1979-80 Brian Propp 75 1979-80 Ron Flockhart 33 1981-82 Eric Lindros 74 1992-93 Dave Poulin 31 1983-84 Ron Flockhart 72 1981-82 Bill Barber 30 1972-73 Pelle Eklund 66 1985-86 Mark Recchi: 52 goals, 69 assists, 121 points. club record goals: club record points: Reggie Leach 61 1975-76 Mark Recchi 121 1992-93* Tim Kerr 58 1985-86,86-87 Bobby Clarke 119 1975-76 Tim Kerr 54 1983-84,84-85 Bobby Clarke 116 1974-75 Mark Recchi 52 1992-93 Bill Barber 112 1975-76 Rick Macliesh 50 1972-73 Bobby Clarke 104 1972-73 Bill Barber 50 1975-76 Rick Macliesh 100 1972-73 Reggie Leach 50 1979-80 *More than 80 games. FLYERS career years: Player Points Best Prior Season Mark Recchi 121 113 (90-91 Penguins) Rod Brind'Amour 84 77 (91-92 FLYERS) Garry Galley 62 38 (84-85 Kings) Brent Fedyk 59 35 (90-91 Red Wings) That's all for now... pete clark jr - rsh FLYERS contact and mailing list owner
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From: edm@twisto.compaq.com (Ed McCreary) Subject: Re: Federal Hearing In-Reply-To: dmcgee@uluhe.soest.hawaii.edu's message of Fri, 16 Apr 1993 04: 21:09 GMT Organization: Compaq Computer Corp Distribution: usa Lines: 19 >>>>> On Fri, 16 Apr 1993 04:21:09 GMT, dmcgee@uluhe.soest.hawaii.edu (Don McGee) said: DM> Fact or rumor....? Madalyn Murray O'Hare an atheist who eliminated the DM> use of the bible reading and prayer in public schools 15 years ago is now DM> going to appear before the FCC with a petition to stop the reading of the DM> Gospel on the airways of America. And she is also campaigning to remove DM> Christmas programs, songs, etc from the public schools. If it is true DM> then mail to Federal Communications Commission 1919 H Street Washington DC DM> 20054 expressing your opposition to her request. Reference Petition number DM> 2493. False. This story has been going around for years. There's not a drop of truth. Note that I don't care for O'Hare (O'Hair?) myself, but this is one thing she's not guilty of. -- Ed McCreary ,__o edm@twisto.compaq.com _-\_<, "If it were not for laughter, there would be no Tao." (*)/'(*)
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From: zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest) Subject: Re: Cold Gas tanks for Sounding Rockets Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: daedalus.stanford.edu In-reply-to: rdl1@ukc.ac.uk's message of 16 Apr 93 14:28:07 GMT In article <3918@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> rdl1@ukc.ac.uk (R.D.Lorenz) writes: >Does anyone know how to size cold gas roll control thruster tanks >for sounding rockets? Well, first you work out how much cold gas you need, then make the tanks big enough. Our sounding rocket payload, with telemetry, guidance, etc. etc. and a telescope cluster, weighs around 1100 pounds. It uses freon jets for steering and a pulse-width-modulated controller for alignment (ie during our eight minutes in space, the jets are pretty much continuously firing on a ~10% duty cycle or so...). The jets also need to kill residual angular momentum from the spin stabilization, and flip the payload around to look at the Sun. We have two freon tanks, each holding ~5 liters of freon (I'm speaking only from memory of the last flight). The ground crew at WSMR choose how much freon to use based on some black-magic algorithm. They have extra tank modules that just bolt into the payload stack. This should give you an idea of the order of magnitude for cold gas quantity. If you really need to know, send me email and I'll try to get you in touch with our ground crew people. Cheers, Craig -- DON'T DRINK SOAP! DILUTE DILUTE! OK!
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From: tom_milligan@rainbow.mentorg.com Subject: Anyone with L'Abri Experiences Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation Lines: 6 I am curious if anyone in net-land has spent any time at any of the L'Abri houses throughout the world and what the experience was like, how it affected you, etc. Especially interesting would be experiences at the original L'Abri in Switzerland and personal interactions with Francis and/or Edith Schaeffer. Tom Milligan
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From: joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner) Subject: Re: For JOHS@dhhalden.no (1) Reply-To: joe@rider.cactus.org Distribution: na Organization: NOT Lines: 20 davet@interceptor.cds.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS) writes: ]In article <1076@rider.UUCP> joe@rider.cactus.org writes: ]>cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes: ][bozo posts GIFS to rec.moto] ]>he and his postmaster are also gonna get 500 copies of the post in their ]>mailboxes. ] ] Hey, it's a great picture. You can't fault his taste, only his ]technique. Chill out and educate instead of getting your panties in a ]bunch. ditto to you Dave. I'm using the picture as the bacground on my sun, and I haven't sent a single message to the guy. looks like you get to keep the panties. -- Joe Senner -- joe@Rider.Cactus.Org Austin, TX WARNING: DO NOT LOOK INTO LASER WITH REMAINING EYE. -- Posted in a radioactive isotope research lab (from r.h.f)
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From: freed@nss.org (Bev Freed) Subject: FAQs Organization: The NSS BBS, Pittsburgh PA (412) 366-5208 Lines: 8 I was wondering if the FAQ files could be posted quarterly rather than monthly. Every 28-30 days, I get this bloated feeling. -- Bev Freed - via FidoNet node 1:129/104 UUCP: ...!pitt!nss!freed INTERNET: freed@nss.org
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From: rj3s@Virginia.EDU ("Get thee to a nunnery.....") Subject: Re: Israeli Terrorism Organization: University of Virginia Lines: 1 Just kidding
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Subject: DOS 6.) From: darren.lavallee@cld9.sccsi.com (Darren Lavallee) Distribution: world Organization: C-9 Comm. (CloudNine BBS) 713-855-4382 Lines: 11 @EID:B486 85210000 I have a 120 mb hard drive. What should I set the compression ratio at using DOS'S double disk? Do I have to format erase everything to double the full 120 mb to 240? Can I just make a mirror of my hard drive? Thanx 4 the help! Darren Lavallee --- WM v2.08/92-0279 * Origin: 705-256-CSRN 35,000+ FILES, 6 Lines, INTERNET/USENET, 1(1:222
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From: hernandez@info-gw.mese.com (Manny Hernandez) Subject: Misc. Items (PIP TV tuner,CB Ant,Gym,Scanner & Run brds) Distribution: atl.forsale,misc.forsale Organization: Information Gateway BBS -- +1 404-928-7873 Lines: 77 I have the following items for sale. Rabbit PIP tuner SoloFlex-like gym Scanner (800 Mhz) CB Antenna Blazer/Jimmy running boards ---- Rabbit PIP (picture-in-picture) Box. This device when used with a VCR tuner will allow you to have a second channel popped up on any corner of the screen. The you can press SWAP on the remote and the small picture will be swapped with the main picture. The only limitation to this box is that it is has 36 channel tuner. This means that the box itself cannot tune higher than cable channel 36. However, if your VCR tuner is capable of tuning higher than this, then you simply tune the VCR to the channel desired and then swap pictures (assuming the alternate picture is channel 36 or lower) and it will work fine. Original cost: $149 Will sell for: $75 ---- Running boards for Jimmy or Blazer Brand new black running boards for the S10/15 models. I purchased them and realized that I could not use (after return period expired) them because of wheel trim that I have installed on my vehicle. Original cost: $125 Will sell for: $ 65 ---- Regency MX4200 20-Channel Scanner Recieves cellular frequencies (800-950 mhz) along with 7 other bands. Brand new Ni-Cad battery pack. Original Cost: $249 Will sell for: $135 ---- GYN/Plex model 2000 workout Gym, similar to Solo-Flex This gym is similar to Solo-Flex in that it uses resistance bands to increase the effective lifting weight. It is all black and made of steel. I have an extra set of bands that I purchased that will be included. Original cost: $349 Will sell for: $125 ---- Big Stick CB Antenna for 27 Mhz band. Will sell for: $30 Because of weight or or other difficulty, last 2 items for Atlanta area only please. I will share non-COD shipping charges. Thanks Manny ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Information Gateway BBS +1 404-928-7873 Public Access Newsgroups/Email Please reply to: hernandez@info-gw.blackwlf.mese.com (Sysop) hernandez@info-gw.atl.ga.us
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From: mcadams@trane.rtp.dg.com (Ed McAdams) Subject: Piano, free to charity Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC Lines: 15 I have one of those HEAVY antique upright pianos I would like to contribute to any charity with muscle enough to get it out of my house. If I get no response from a charity I will sell to for $100, you haul. It is in good shape, needs tuning. I'm in south Durham county. Ed McAdams Data General Corporation mcadams@dg-rtp.dg.com 62 T. W. Alexander Drive {backbone}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!mcadams Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 (919) 248-6369 Ed McAdams Data General Corporation mcadams@dg-rtp.dg.com 62 T. W. Alexander Drive {backbone}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!mcadams Research Triangle Park, NC 27709 (919) 248-6369
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From: beck@irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de (Andre Beck) Subject: Re: lost in (TekHVC color) space Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, TU Dresden, Germany. Lines: 13 Distribution: world Reply-To: Andre_Beck@IRS.Inf.TU-Dresden.DE NNTP-Posting-Host: irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de Hi, xtici worked for my system. I'm using X11R5 pl 17 clientside only on a DEC 5000/240 on Ultrix 4.3 May be you have a serious floatingpoint compilation problem ? -- +-o-+--------------------------------------------------------------+-o-+ | o | \\\- Brain Inside -/// | o | | o | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | o | | o | Andre' Beck (ABPSoft) mehl: Andre_Beck@IRS.Inf.TU-Dresden.de | o | +-o-+--------------------------------------------------------------+-o-+
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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) Subject: Re: Glutamate Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera Lines: 15 Distribution: world Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu In article <1993Apr18.163212.9577@walter.bellcore.com>, jchen@wind.bellcore.com (Jason Chen) writes: =There is no contradiction here. It is essential in the sense that your =body needs it. It is non-essential in the sense that your body can =produce enough of it without supplement. And when you're in a technical discussion of amino acids, it's the latter definition that's used almost universally. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL Disclaimer: Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS. That's what I get paid for. My understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below). So unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my organization responsible for it. If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
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Subject: Re: New Funding Plan for the Military From: medkeffjs@hirama.hiram.edu (Jeff Medkeff) Organization: Hiram College Nntp-Posting-Host: hirama.hiram.edu Lines: 20 In article <C4zI26.34D@wetware.com>, drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes (about the armed services): > > ps: Maybe even privatize the organization, or consider > 'out sourcing' various aspects of the DOD as a part of > the current 'Down Sizing' - Who Knows, Maybe if we > Finally Allowed to "Free Market" to take control, we will > no longer have a military run by the same folks who are > running the post office..... > > pps: slow down, and think before you flame, Rhetoric is an ArtForm. Well, uh, actually I agree. -- Jeffrey S. Medkeff Bitnet- medkeffjs@hiramb PO Box 1098 Internet- medkeffjs@hiramb.hiram.edu Hiram, OH 44234 Pale Ebenezer thought it wrong to fight. But U.S.A. Roaring Bill (who killed him) thought it right.
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Subject: XV for MS-DOS !!! From: NO E-MAIL ADDRESS@eicn.etna.ch Organization: EICN, Switzerland Lines: 42 Hi !!! This is the response for Wayne Michael...and certainly for other-one :-) I'm sorry for... 1) The late of the answer but I couldn't find xv221 for msdos 'cause I forgot the address...but I've retrieve it.. 2) Posting this answer here in comp.graphics 'cause I can't use e-mail, not yet.... 2) My bad english 'cause I'm a Swiss and my language is french.... After a long time I retrieve the address where you can find XV for Dos... Site : omnigate.clarkson.edu Aliases : grape.ecs.clarkson.edu Number : 128.153.4.2 /pub/msdos/djgpp/pub it's xv221.zip (?) I think... Certainly you read the other answer from Kevin Martin... He write about DV/X (?). What is it ?????? Could Someone answer ???? Thanx in advance.... -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- * * * Pascal PERRET | perret@eicn.etna.ch * * Ecole d'ingénieur ETS | (Not Available at this time)* * 2400 Le LOCLE | * * Suisse * * !!!! Enjoy COMPUTER !!!! * * * ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch) Subject: Re: When is Apple going to ship CD300i's? Organization: The University of British Columbia Lines: 5 NNTP-Posting-Host: swiss.ucs.ubc.ca Note that if you get the external CD300 for your Centris or Q800 you will miss out on the sound mixing feature unless you are willing to run a wire from the motherboard sound input connector to the stereo output on the CD. Connecting to the sound input port on the back of the computer won't do unless you can live with mono.
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From: lmvec@westminster.ac.uk (William Hargreaves) Subject: Help Organization: University of Westminster Lines: 25 Hi everyone, I'm a commited Christian that is battling with a problem. I know that romans talks about how we are saved by our faith not our deeds, yet hebrews and james say that faith without deeds is useless, saying' You fools, do you still think that just believing is enough?' Now if someone is fully believing but there life is totally lead by themselves and not by God, according to Romans that person is still saved by there faith. But then there is the bit which says that God preferes someone who is cold to him (i.e. doesn't know him - condemned) so a lukewarm Christian someone who knows and believes in God but doesn't make any attempt to live by the bible. Now I am of the opinion that you a saved through faith alone (not what you do) as taught in Romans, but how can I square up in my mind the teachings of James in conjunction with the lukewarm Christian being 'spat-out' Can anyone help me, this really bothers me. In Christ, Will -- ============================================ | Dallas Cowboys - World Champions 1992-93 | ============================================
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From: jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) Subject: Re: Nazi Eugenic Theories Circulated by Organization: The Department of Redundancy Department Lines: 68 In article <1483500351@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes: >PS: My proposal has nothing to do with Nazi eugenics. It has to do with >the search for peace which would enable justice. I don't consider that >justice is done, when non-Jews who fled or were expelled in 1948/1967 >are not permitted to return to their homeland. How about Jews who were expelled from their homelands in Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Algeria, etc.? Don't they deserve justice, too? >This can at best be called >pragmatism, a nice word for legitimizing the rule of the strong. It can >never be called justice. Why is your criticism ALWAYS directed against Israel, but never against the Arab states, even when they are so much more guilty of the accusations you make? Is it because you now call yourself a Palestinean? >And peace without justice will never be peace. This is why the "land-for-peace" formula is so foolish. Land-for-land or peace-for-peace seems much more just, except that it would cost the Arabs something and so is not under consideration. Let's not forget that about half of Israel's population are refugees from Arab countries. Somehow, THEIR land now being occupied by Arab states and THEIR homes now being lived-in by Arab people are not included in any negotiations. Is this your prescription for peace? >It is my conviction that the situation in which a state, through the >law, attempts to discourage mixed marriages (as Israel does), is not >normal. Such a state resembles more Nazi Germany and South Africa than >Western democracies, such as the United States, in which Jews are free to >marry whom they wish and do so in the thousands. Again, you've somehow managed to overlook the fact that the Arab states are much more restrictive on these points. In fact, the officially Judenrein policies of almost all of the Arab states makes them resemble Nazi Germany chillingly closely. >American Jews enjoy this fact and would not love to live in a state termed >Christian State and to have their Green cards stamped with a mark JEW. There are many states in which Christians can live happily, many which have official religions and Christian majorities and Christian-based laws. There are some 2 dozen Arab and Islamic states. There is only 1 (one) Jewish state. Do you have a problem with this? Is this one Jewish state too many? There are others who might agree with you, you know. >I would ask those who are genuinely interested in an exchange of views >and personal experiencces to refrain from emotional, infantile >outbursts which might leed readers to infer that Jews who respect >Judaism are uncivilized. Such behaviour is not good for Judaism. Have you just arrived on tpm recently??? Again, the supporters of the Arab and Islamic camps are frequently and massively guilty of "emotional, infantile outbursts" which have weakened their positions dramatically. Somehow, your criticisms are very one-sided and simple-minded. P.S. How's the Fund coming along? -- Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Ten years from now, George Bush will American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
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From: gtoal@gtoal.com (Graham Toal) Subject: Re: PGP ideas for IBM systems Lines: 7 : I've been thinking about how difficult it would be to make PGP available : in some form on EBCDIC machines. Don't encourage them. Let EBCDIC machines die an honorable death :) G
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From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) Subject: Re: bikes with big dogs Organization: AT&T Distribution: na Lines: 20 In article <1993Apr14.234835.1@cua.edu> 84wendel@cua.edu writes: >Has anyone ever heard of a rider giving a big dog such as a great dane a ride >on the back of his bike. My dog would love it if I could ever make it work. > Thanks > 84wendel@cua.edu If a large Malmute counts then yes someone has heard(and seen) such an irresponsible childish stunt. The dog needed assistance straightening out once on board. The owner would lift the front legs of dog and throw them over the driver/pilots shoulders. Said dog would get shit eating grin on its face and away they'd go. The dogs ass was firmly planted on the seat. My dog and this dog actively seek each other out at camping party's. They hate each other. I think it's something personal. ================================================================================ Steatopygias's 'R' Us. doh#0000000005 That ain't no Hottentot. Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. AMA#669373 DoD#564. There ain't no more. ================================================================================
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From: radley@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Keith Radley) Subject: Misc Electronic Eqpt Summary: electronics for sale Nntp-Posting-Host: gibbs.oit.unc.edu Organization: University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Distribution: usa Lines: 20 Panasonic KX-T3000H, Combo black cordless & speaker phone all in one. new- $160, now- $100 + shipping OBO. Curtis Mathes VHS VCR Remote included and it works with universal remotes. Works great but I replaced it with a Stereo VCR. paid $300 years ago, will sell for $125 delivered OBO. Radio Shack stereo amp. 2 inputs, tone, and left and right volume. Speakers not included. $20 plus shipping. If you are interested in either of the above mail me at radley@gibbs.out.unc.edu. _ _ // Major: Computer Science /<eith Radley \\// Minor: English Radley@gibbs.oit.unc.edu \/ Computer: AMIGA 3000 University of North Carolina
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From: soltys@radonc.unc.edu (Mitchel Soltys) Subject: Hard Disk Utilities? Originator: soltys@melanoma.radonc.unc.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: melanoma.radonc.unc.edu Organization: Radiation Oncology, NCMH/UNC, Chapel Hill, NC Distribution: usa Lines: 26 Hi to all you PC gurus! I'm new to these groups and so please forgive me if my questions are frequently asked, but I don't know the answer :) I've been recently having some problems with my 386 computer with a Seagate 40 meg hard drive. I occasionally find corrupted files, but most of the time programs work fine. Are there any utilities that are easily available that can help me determine whether or not the problem is a result of the hard drive vs an ill-behaved program or some other hardware item? Are there utilites to determine whether or not the hard drive is properly aligned etc? As might be expected, I would greatly appreciate any help on this matter. I'm considering just reformatting the disk and reinstalling everything (and hoping that will fix the problem), but I would like to have some assurance of what the problem cause is. Also, can someone give me an opinion on DOS 6.0? Are the compression and defragmentation routines good enough to consider the upgrade if I don't have those routines already (as opposed to buying them separately)? Much thanks in advance for any help. Mitchel Soltys soltys@radonc.unc.edu
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From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) Subject: Re: Maxtor 2190 info needed (was Re: UNIX PC Software for sale) Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 25 In article <colinm.735327894@cunews> colinm@max.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen) writes: | Does anyone know what the jumpers should be set to on the Maxtor 2190?? | I have a 2190 that came off of a VS2000 that I would like to use on a PC. From the Maxtor Product Specification and OEM Manual, Doc. 1011002 Rev. F, page 35: J2, (20) J1 (34) POWER |xxxxxxxxxx| |XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX| | UUUU | +-----+ +--------+ +-------+ | | 4 C 3 2 C 1 | | [ O O O O O O ] | The only option you "should" jumper is the drive select, shown as "4C32C1" above. There is also a drive power-up option jumper (elsewhere on the drive's board) but the odds of that having been unset are slim. Since the 3B1 "normally" has only one HD, you would jumper betwwwn "C1" to select the first (possible) drive address; if the 2190 is your second drive on the 3B1, then jumper between "2C". Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com, thad@cup.portal.com, thad@netcom.com ]
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From: david@c-cat.UUCP (Dave) Subject: Re: IDE vs SCSI Organization: Intergalactic Rest Area For Weary Travellers Lines: 28 bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB) writes: {> {> SCSI-1 {SCSI-2 controller chip; also called SCSI-2 (8-bit)}: 4-6MB/s with {> 10MB/s burst. This is advertised as SCSI-2 in BYTE 4/93:159 FOR the {> PC and AT THESE SPEEDS.{NOT the Mac, the PC.} {> I have been following this mess for a while. excuse my need for clarification. Iam thinking seriously IDE vs. SCSI and this thread could not have come at a better time. the above quote SCSI-1 {SCSI-2 controller chip} are we talking about a SCSI-1 device (e.g. HD) on a SCSI-2 Controller or are we talking about a SCSI-1 Controller that had a chip upgrade using the same chip that is on a SCSI-2 controller board. thanks -David =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= China Cat BBS c-cat!david@sed.csc.com (301)604-5976 1200-14,400 8N1 ...uunet!mimsy!anagld!c-cat!david =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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From: enavarro@nyx.cs.du.edu (Emilio Navarro) Subject: NetBIOS and BIOS Summary: NetBios Keywords: NetBios Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci. Lines: 9 Hello everyone, Could anyone tell me where to find some information about NetBios and Bios interrupt calls. A book or maybe an FTP site. Thank you in advance. Emilio
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From: abdkw@stdvax (David Ward) Subject: Re: Questions about Titan IV and Ariane 5 Distribution: sci Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center - Robotics Lab Lines: 26 News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1 In article <C50orq.7G0@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, gwg33762@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Garret W. Gengler) writes... >In sci.space you write: > >>Try the ENVIRONET database at GSFC. FTP to envnet.gsfc.nasa.gov or >>128.183.104.16, or call (310)286-5690. They have data on STS, Ariane, Titan, >>Atlas, Delta and Scout launch environments. > >Howdy. Thanks for the info. > >I tried "anonymous" FTP there, but it didn't work. >I also tried telnetting to the same address, but it asked for a login >and password, although there was a note saying that the new username for >environet was "envnet". > >Anyways, do you have any idea what else I should try? > >Thanks, >Garret > > The home office number for ENVIRONET is (301) 286-5690 (note area code change). A friend of mine used to use it to get LDEF data, but he had to apply for a login name and password. I have a call in for more info, which I hope to get in the morning. David W. @ GSFC
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From: pspod@hooch.lerc.nasa.gov (Steve Podleski) Subject: Re: With Friends Like These -- L. Neil Smith Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center [Cleveland, Ohio] Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: hooch.lerc.nasa.gov papresco@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes: >... >Some guns will get through, but far fewer, and far less people will >die because of them. Do you have any statistical evidence to back you claim that requires another limitation of the citizenry freedom? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Podleski | phone: 216-433-4000 NASA Lewis Research Center | Cleveland, Ohio 44135 | email: pspod@hooch.lerc.nasa.gov -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Morris the Cat) Subject: Re: "Proper gun control?" What is proper gun control? Organization: AT&T Distribution: usa Lines: 34 |in L.A., the first recorded survivor of a .357 shot to the heart. That |lady not only killed her attacker, but chased him down to do it! All |four of her shots, fired after SHE had been shot, struck the perp. Atta |girl! The bullet entered her on a downward angle, went through the apex |of her heart, down through the diaphragm, clipped her liver and |destroyed her spleen. It then exited her back leaving a tennis ball |sized hole. She died about six times on the operating table, but was |out of the hospital in 15 days and was back on full duty in eight |months! She was off duty at the time and not wearing her vest. She was |on her way home so happened to have her gun. No, she doesn't think |civilians should have the same rights. Sigh. Well, if police think they are so special that only _THEY_ are worthy of self-defense, perhaps we start putting the arm on police; maybe we should start demanding that police are only police when ON-DUTY, that after that they are just like the ordinary disarmed helpless chumps they consider "civilians." Let's prohibit arms carrying by police when off-duty. Or, if they make the assertion that "Well, I need to maintain my gun" let's make it regulation that they can carry an UNLOADED firearm home, that it's only fair that they be just as helpless as poor schmuck coming home from his computer operator job... NRA Director/ex-San Jose cop Leroy Pyle states in the latest SWAT magazine that anti-cops better watch out for this schism between RKBA folks and the police. He asks the rhetorical question of 'What if what's left of the gun lobby starts demanding the disarmament of the police?" Well, I guess anti-gun cops who think only they should be armed, along with the wealthy and politically connected, should be made to realize that screwing can cut in ways they have yet to imagine.
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From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) Subject: Re: <Political Atheists? Organization: sgi Lines: 15 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com In article <930404.111651.1K0.rusnews.w165w@mantis.co.uk>, mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) writes: |> In article <1993Apr2.065230.18676@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> |> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes: |> >The "automobile system" kills non-driving passengers, not to mention |> >pedestrians. You need not drive or even use a car to be killed by one. |> |> Indeed, and it kills far more than a system of public transport would. I am |> therefore entirely in favour of banning private cars and replacing them with |> trains, buses, taxis, bicycles, and so on. Seconded. I cycle to work each day, and if we could just get those damned cars and their cretinous drivers off the road, it would be a lot more fun. jon.
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Subject: Re: FAST DOS'VGA and 1024x768x256 windows video card info needed. From: edowdy@vax1.umkc.edu Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu Lines: 38 In article <1993Apr25.220320.26510@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, leo@cae.wisc.edu (Leo Lim) writes: > ok, i have a 486dx50(ISA) w/ Diamond Stealth VRAM 1MB. > I was really satisfied w/ its performance in windows. > but now more and more games needs higher frame rates in DOS' VGA, > especially this new Strike Commander. ;-) > this stealth vram can only give me 17.5 fps. ;-( (i use 3dbench). > my winmark was 6.35 million, i think. > > so right now i'm considering to replace it w/ a new card, which hopefully > can perform approx same w/ my current VRAM in windows and also > can perform DOS' VGA preferably >30fps. > I am ordering the Actix graphicsengine ultra plus. It is the same price as the stealth card. Plus it is also based on S3 928 chip the newest and fastest chip from s3. Everyone, if you are looking for a card, SEE THE APRIL ISSUE OF PC MAGAZINE FOR THEIR REVIEW. They noted this person's problem with dos. The stealth card is not a very good dos performer. The Actix card is rated the best in this chip class (non local bus). It got glowing reports from the magazine (was a best buy) and I called them directly and they just updated their windows drivers last week! They have a bulletin board to get the latest drivers. Though somone posted that this bbs was at 2400. AT any rate, the Actix graphics engine ultra outperforms all the other cards in the 928 class (based on the winmark results). If you are looking for the all around best dos/windows performance check out the actix card. Their 1-800 number is 927-5557. P.S. The article in pc magazine noted that if you are a regular dos user (ie: games) then you should also check out the 801 chip from s3. It apparently scores just as well and in many cases slightly better in dos than the 928 chip (ie: stealth and actix cards.) They have "comparable" windows performance and are cheaper to buy. Eric
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From: romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu (Ella I Baff) Subject: GETTING AIDS FROM ACUPUNCTURE NEEDLES Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 44 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: uclink.berkeley.edu someone wrote in expressing concern about getting AIDS from acupuncture needles..... Unless your friend is sharing fluids with their acupuncturist who themselves has AIDS..it is unlikely (not impossible) they will get AIDS from acupuncture needles. Generally, even if accidently inoculated, the normal immune response should be enough to effectively handle the minimal contaminant involved with acupuncture needle insertion. Most acupuncturists use disposable needles...use once and throw away. They do this because you are not the only one concerned about transmission of diseases via this route...so it's good business to advertise "disposable needlesused here." These needles tend to be of a lower quality however, being poorly manufactured and too "sharp" in my opinion. They tend to snag bloodvessels on insertion compared to higher quality needles. If I choose to use acupuncture for a given complaint, that patient will get their own set of new needles which are sterilized between treatments. The risk here for hepatitis, HIV, etc. transmission is that I could mistakenly use an infected persons needles accidently on the wrong patient...but clear labelling and paying attention all but eliminates this risk. Better quality needles tend to "slide" past vessels and nerves avoiding unpleasant painful snags..and hematomas...so I use them. Acupuncture needles come in many lengths and thicknesses...but they are all solid when compared to their injection-style cousins. In China, herbal solutionsand western pharmaceuticals are occasionally injected into meridian points purported to have TCM physiologic effects and so require the same hollow needles used for injecting fluid medicine. This means...thinkingtiny...that a samll amount of tissue, the diameter of the needle bore, will be injected into the body as it would be in a typical "shot." when the skin is puntured. On the other hand when the solid acupuncture needle is inserted, the skin tends to "squeeze" the needle from the tip to the level of insertion such that any 'cooties' that haven't been schmeared away with alcohol before insertion, tend to remain on the surface of the skin minimizing invasion from the exterior. Of course in TCM...the body's exterior is protected by the Wei (Protective) Qi..so infection is unlikely....or in other words...there is a normal inflammatory and immune response that accompanies tissue damage incurred at the puncture site. While I'm fairly certain your friend will not have a transferable disease transmitted to them via acupuncture needle insertion, I would like to know for what complaint they have consulted the acupuncturist...not to know if it would be harmful.. but to know if it would be helpful. John Badanes, DC, CA romdas@uclink.berkeley.edu
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From: steveth@netcom.com (Steve Thomas) Subject: Re: Good Neighbor Political Hypocrisy Test Organization: VisionAire, San Francisco, CA Lines: 34 In article <1993Apr15.193603.14228@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rscharfy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ryan C Scharfy) writes: >In article <stevethC5JGCr.1Ht@netcom.com> steveth@netcom.com (Steve Thomas) wri >tes: > >> >>Just _TRY_ to justify the War On Drugs, I _DARE_ you! >> > >A friend of mine who smoke pot every day and last Tuesday took 5 hits of acid >is still having trouble "aiming" for the bowl when he takes a dump. Don't as >me how, I just have seen the results. > >Boy, I really wish we we cut the drug war and have more people screwed up in >the head. > I'll answer you're sarcasm with more sarcasm: Boy, it looks like the WOD is WORKING REALLY GOOD to stop people from being screwed up in the head, given that example! (Issue: your friend _got_ his drugs--legal or not legal, he'll continue to get them. Issue #2: why should _I_, as somebody who does NOT use illegal drugs and who IS NOT "screwed up" have to PAY for this idiot's problems? He's not doing anybody any harm except himself. The WOD, on the other hand, is an immediate THREAT to MY life and livelyhood. Tell me why I should sacrafice THIS to THAT!). -- _______ Steve Thomas steveth@rossinc.com
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From: b-clark@nwu.edu (Brian Clark) Subject: Re: High Resolution ADC for Mac II Nntp-Posting-Host: elvex34.acns.nwu.edu Organization: Northwestern University Lines: 28 In article <b-clark-160493183822@elvex33.acns.nwu.edu>, b-clark@nwu.edu (Brian Clark) wrote: > > I don't know about the Instrutech boards (though I plan to check them out), > but you need to be very careful checking the monotonicity and S/N ratio of > many of the "16 bit" boards out there. The NI boards are very clearly > specified in terms of monotonicity, S/N ratio, accuracy, etc; and the > NB-A2100 and NB-A2150 have all the dyynamic range and freedom from > distortion that you'd expect from a good, true 16 bit converter. This is > not true for the Spectral Innovations boards, for example. To boorishly reply to myself, I found I did have the Instrutech information already. The specs (to use the term loosely) are as follows: A/D: 16 bit converter, with 14 bit accuracy to 100 kHz, 12 bit accuracy to 200 kHz. No specs for S/N, monotonicity, linearity. There are 8 multiplexed inputs sharing the single A/D, so that all inputs are not samples at the same time, and in the above conversion specs the all-channel sample rate must be used. Thus, for two channels, you only have 14 unknown quality bits at 50 kHz per channel. This is poorer quality than the national Instruments, at the same sample rate. D/A: 16 bit converter. No specs for S/N, monotonicity, linearity. Each of the 4 output channels has its own converter. The price for the external converter box (the ITC-16), the NuBus interface board (the MAC-23), plus C driver software and Igor XOP's is $2695. Rather steep.
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From: bloom@inland.com Subject: Re: extraordinary footpeg engineering Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN Lines: 18 In article <1993Apr15.001813.3907@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au>, exb0405@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes: > Okay DoD'ers, here's a goddamn mystery for ya ! > > > The stud on the side of the bike that clunked when I turned was absent. I'm > fairly sure it was there before the event. In fact, the thread in > the hole in the footpeg was perfectly intact, with no evidence of something > having been forcefully ripped out of it only moments previously. > > Okay all you engineering types, how the f**k do you explain this ? How can you > rip a tightly fitting steel thread out of a threaded hole (in alloy) without > damaging the thread in the hole ? You can't knock a threaded stud out from its hole without destroying the threads. Also part of the stud would still be in the hole. Therefore the stud was *not* in the hole before you touched something down on that side of the bike. ....Dr. Doom
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From: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson) Subject: Re: Thumbs up to ESPN Reply-To: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson) Organization: University of Rochester Hockey Science Dept. In article <1993Apr20.032017.5783@wuecl.wustl.edu> jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar) writes: > It was nice to see ESPN show game 1 between the Wings and Leafs since >the Cubs and Astros got rained out. Instead of showing another baseball >game, they decided on the Stanley Cup Playoffs. A classy move by ESPN. They tried their best not to show it, believe me. I'm surprised they couldn't find a sprint car race (mini cars through pigpens, indeed!) on short notice. George -- George Ferguson ARPA: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu Dept. of Computer Science UUCP: rutgers!rochester!ferguson University of Rochester VOX: (716) 275-2527 Rochester NY 14627-0226 FAX: (716) 461-2018
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From: ykim@cs.columbia.edu (Yong Su Kim) Subject: Fast wireframe graphics Distribution: usa Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science Lines: 29 I am working on a program to display 3d wireframe models with the user being able to arbitrarily change any of the viewing parameters. Also, the wireframe objects are also going to have dynamic attributes so that they can move around while the user is "exploring" the wireframe world. To do this, I am thinking of using the SRGP package described in the Van Dam, Foley and Feiner book, but I was wondering if there was another PD graphics package out there which was faster. I would like to make the program as fast as possible so that it provides satisfactory real time performance on a Sun IPX. Ideally, I'm looking for a PD graphics package which will allow me to open a new window under X, and allow me to draw lines within the window. Also, it would also need to have some sort of event driven interaction handling since the user is going to move around the wireframe models using the keyboard. If you know or wrote such a package, I would be grateful if you could direct me to a ftp site which contains the package. Thank you. -- =============================================================================== Yong Su Kim, Class of 1993 | Internet: yk4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu Columbia College, Columbia University | or ykim@cs.columbia.edu
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From: alleyja@yang.earlham.edu Subject: <None> Distribution: talk Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana Lines: 44 In article <1993Apr4.4332.33144@dosgate>, nigel.allen@canrem.com (nigel allen) writes: > Here is a press release from Handgun Control Inc. > > Sarah Brady Calls On Governor to Veto NRA Bill; Bayh Urged to > Follow Clinton's Lead > To: State Desk > Contact: Cheryl Brolin of Handgun Control Inc., 202-898-0792 > > WASHINGTON, April 2 -- In a letter today to Indiana Gov. > Evan Bayh, Sarah Brady, wife of former White House > Press Secretary James Brady and chair of Handgun Control Inc., > called on the governor to veto NRA-backed "preemption" legislation > (S.B. 241), which would wipe out existing local gun laws and > prohibit localities from enacting future regulations governing the > sale, possession or transfer of firearms. > "I'm counting on Gov. Bayh to show the same kind of political > courage President Clinton showed as governor of Arkansas, when he > twice vetoed this type of special-interest legislation," Mrs. Brady > said, referring to Clinton's veto of NRA-backed preemption bills in > 1989 and 1991. > I knew that Cutie would sell us out. Full-blooded Democrat, he is :-) Seriously folks, if it can happen here (remember? we all got gun racks on our 4x4s), it can happen anywhere. Now to get that letter ready. `Dear Cutie, as one who didn't vote for you, I can sincerely say I am unhappy...' > -30- > -- > Nigel Allen, Toronto, Ontario, Canada nigel.allen@canrem.com > -- > Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario > 416-629-7000/629-7044 Those who know what's best for us Must try to save us from ourselves -- RUSH -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Jason Alley || The opinions expressed were given to me | | Earlham College, Richmond IN || by aliens living in my pancreas. | | AlleyJa@Yang.Earlham.Edu || The Empire never ended. | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: brandon@caldonia.nlm.nih.gov (Brandon Brylawski) Subject: Re: Should I be angry at this doctor? Organization: National Library of Medicine X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4 Distribution: na Lines: 30 mryan@stsci.edu writes: : Am I justified in being pissed off at this doctor? : : Last Saturday evening my 6 year old son cut his finger badly with a knife. : I took him to a local "Urgent and General Care" clinic at 5:50 pm. The : clinic was open till 6:00 pm. The receptionist went to the back and told the : doctor that we were there, and came back and told us the doctor would not : see us because she had someplace to go at 6:00 and did not want to be delayed : here. During the next few minutes, in response to my questions, with several : trips to the back room, the receptionist told me: : - the doctor was doing paperwork in the back, : - the doctor would not even look at his finger to advise us on going : to the emergency room; : - the doctor would not even speak to me; : - she would not tell me the doctor's name, or her own name; : - when asked who is in charge of the clinic, she said "I don't know." : : I realize that a private clinic is not the same as an emergency room, but : I was quite angry at being turned away because the doctor did not want to : be bothered. My son did get three stitches at the emergency room. Speaking as a physician who works in an urgent care center, the above behavior is completely inappropriate. If a patient who requires extensive care shows up at the last minute, we always see them and give them appropriate care. It is reasonable for a clinic to refuse to see patients outside of its posted hours, but what you describe is misbehavior. Ask to speak to the clinic director, and complain. Whatever their attitude, they have nothing to gain from angering patients. Brandon Brylawski
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From: Aovai@qube.OCUnix.On.Ca (Aovai) Subject: Hard disk question Distribution: world Organization: The QuBE BBS Lines: 18 Hi, I just disassembled my old XT and get 2 disk drives - 30M hard drive and a 360K floppy drive. My questions are: -can I use these 2 drives as drives D & E on my 386SX25 ? This 386SX25 currently has 80M hard drive, 1.2M & 1.44M floppy drives. -if I can, what s/w or h/w do I need ? Please send your advice/comments to aovai@qube.ocunix.on.ca Thanks a lot, AV -- Via DLG Pro v0.995
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From: biernat@rtsg.mot.com (Tim Biernat) Subject: Re: G2K/Jumbo 250 Backup Problems Keywords: tape backup gateway jumbo Nntp-Posting-Host: tophat1 Organization: Motorola, Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group Distribution: usa Lines: 18 In article <1993Apr19.181139.24147@den.mmc.com> snorman@den.mmc.com writes: >I have a Colorado Memory Systems Jumbo 250 tape backup unit in my Gateway >486/33V Tower system. I have found the supplied backup capability to be >fairly unreliable. In approx 3 cases out of 10, I have had the backup fail >at one point or another, often hanging in the middle of writing the tape. >Seek errors, drive communication errors seem to be most common. I use the >DOS backup software from Colorado Memory Systems. Should I return the drive, >get some better backup software, reformat the tapes (am using CMS tapes)? >Any hints would be appreciated - this stuff is to time-consuming to do over >and over again until it cooperates... i've been using an identical setup, except for the tower config, for several months now. from previous discussions on the net, the first thing to check for is DMA conflicts with other devices, especically if you've got any funky ones. next off, suspect your tape - try a fresh one. good luck ! -- tim
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From: franjion@spot.Colorado.EDU (John Franjione) Subject: Re: Bay area media (Wings-Leafs coverage) Nntp-Posting-Host: spot.colorado.edu Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 27 maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes: >In <DREIER.93Apr19195132@durban.berkeley.edu> dreier@durban.berkeley.edu (Roland Dreier) writes: >>The San Francisco Bay area media is reporting tonight that the Detroit >>Red Wings beat the Toronto Maple Leafs 6-3. Can someone who is not >>part of the media conspiracy against the Leafs tell me how the game >>really went (I am expecting a 4-0 win for the Leafs, shutout for >>Potvin, hat trick for Andreychuk and a goal and 3 assists for >>Gilmour). If the Leafs really lost, how many penalties did whichever >>biased ref was at the game have to call against the Leafs to let the >>Red Wings win? >Ah yes. California. Did the San Francisco Bay area media report that >Joe Montana is rumoured to be the leading candidate to replace fired >San Jose Sharks coach George Kingston? Apparently Montana is not only >coveted for his winning attitude, but as a playing coach he will be >expected to quarterback the powerplay. Good comeback, Rog. Your quick wit and intelligence continues to amaze everyone. -- John Franjione Department of Chemical Engineering University of Colorado, Boulder franjion@spot.colorado.edu
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From: grady@netcom.com (1016/2EF221) Subject: SOURCE to Mactinosh PGP 2.2 in C available Organization: capriccioso X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6] Lines: 84 *** SOURCE code to Macintosh PGP 2.2 now available via anonymous FTP *** FTP netcom.com CD pub/grady MGET MacPGP2.2src.sea.hqx MGET MacPGP2.2srcSIGNATURE Convert to a Compact Pro self-extracting archive with BinHex 4.0. If appropriate, check the digital signature of the .hqx file with your copy of PGP. (Non-Macintosh users wishing to check the digital signature please note that 'CR' denotes the end-of-line on a Macintosh, not 'LF' or 'CRLF'.) For the purposes of the ITAR act, this 'unclassified technical documentation' is hereby released into the public domain. (However no representation is made as to copyright or other commercial rights that may exist in this package.) Full source code, Symantec THINK C 5.0.4 projects and full user documentation is included for both 68020 and 68000 versions of Pretty Good Privacy, a strong public key encryption and digital signature application using the RSA algorithm patented in the United States and the IDEA cipher patented in Switzerland. No executables are included. Executables are available via anonymous FTP from: leif.thep.lu.se (Sweden) night.nig.ac.jp (Japan) van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca (Canada) soda.berkeley.edu (P.R. of Berkeley) src.doc.ic.ac.uk (United Kingdom) ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Italy) plaza.aarnet.edu.au (Australia) nic.funet.fi (Finland) Other's public keys are available from anonymous server sites: (Send message subject "help" for more information.) Internet sites: pgp-public-keys@junkbox.cc.iastate.edu Michael Graff explorer@iastate.edu FTP: tbird.cc.iastate.edu:/usr/explorer/public-keys.pgp pgp-public-keys@toxicwaste.mit.edu Derek Atkins warlord@MIT.EDU FTP: toxicwaste.mit.edu:/pub/keys/public-keys.pgp pgp-public-keys@phil.utmb.edu John Perry perry@phil.utmb.edu FTP: phil.utmb.edu:/pub/pgp/public-keys.pgp pgp-public-keys@demon.co.uk Mark Turner mark@demon.co.uk FTP: ftp.demon.co.uk:/pub/pgp/pubring.pgp UUCP site: pgp-public-keys@jpunix.com John Perry perry@jpunix.com The executable application built from these sources has NOT been licensed by RSA Data Security, Inc. nor has the RSA public key algorithm or the IDEA block cipher algorithm been approved by the National Security Agency. This unclassified technical documentation is made available for EDUCATIONAL USE ONLY; possession, distribution, or use of an executable binary built from this source may be a civil or criminal offense. Suggested improvements, bugs, or comments should be directly posted to alt.security.pgp or to the principal developers listed among the source documents. General questions and comments about public key cryptography or the IDEA cipher may be posted to alt.security.pgp or to the sci.crypt Usenet groups. -- grady@netcom.com 2EF221 / 15 E2 AD D3 D1 C6 F3 FC 58 AC F7 3D 4F 01 1E 2F