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From: chrism@cirrus.com (Chris Metcalfe) Subject: Brendan McKay Clarifies the Nazi Racial Theory Organization: Cirrus Logic Inc. Lines: 59 Only Brendan McKay, or maybe ARF, would come to the rescue of Nazi racial theory. Is it distressing Brendan? The point is that any eugenic solution to the Jewish Problem as Elias has proposed smacks of pure Nazism. The fact that Elias' proposal cast the entire "problem" as one of the abnormal presence of Israeli society in the Middle East, and that he buried a slam against U.S. aid to Israel in the midst of his "even-handed" solution of the Jewish Question, made it obvious what he had in mind: disolving the Jewish polity. That *is* a Nazi doctrine: rectification of the "abnormal presence" of the Jewish people within a larger body politic. Whether your "solution" involves gas, monetary incentives to the poor Jews to marry out, or as Feisal Husseini has said, "disolve the Zionist entity by forcing it to engage the normal surrounding Arab culture," you are engaged in a Nazi project. Just as obvious is your statement: "I will not comment on the value or lack of value of Elias's proposal." Still striking the glancing blow, right Brendan? You could easily see where he was going, but you "will not comment." So, you are complicitous. What is your fascination with Nazi racial theory, anyway? -- Chris Metcalfe ("someone else") !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In article <1993Apr22.175022.15543@cs.rit.edu> bdm@cs.rit.edu (Brendan D McKay) writes: >>>A unconventional proposal for peace in the Middle-East. >>>---------------------------------------------------------- by >>> Elias Davidsson >>> >>>5. The emergence of a considerable number of 'mixed' >>>marriages in Israel/Palestine, all of whom would have relatives on >>>'both sides' of the divide, would make the conflict lose its >>>ethnical and unsoluble core and strengthen the emergence of a >>>truly civil society. The existence of a strong 'mixed' stock of >>>people would also help the integration of Israeli society into the >> >> Sounds just like a racial theory that Hitler outlined in Mein Kampf. > >Someone else said something similar. I will not comment on the >value or lack of value of Elias's "proposal". I just want to say >that it is very distressing that at least two people here are >profoundly ignorant of Nazi racial doctrine. They were NOT >like Elias's idea, they were more like the opposite. > >Nazis believed in racial purity, not racial assimilation. An >instructive example is the Nazi attitude to Gypsies. According to >Nazi theoreticians, Gypsies were an Aryan race. They were persecuted, >and in huge numbers murdered, because most European Gypies were >considered not pure Gypsies but "mongrels" formed from the pure Gypsy >race and other undesirable races. This was the key difference between >the theoretical approach to Jews and Gypsies, by the way. It is also >true that towards the end of WWII even the "purist" Gypsies were >hunted down as the theory was forgotten. > >Brendan. >(email: bdm@cs.anu.edu.au)
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From: car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) Subject: Re: Chain Lube (was: Re: RM consensus on chain cleaning.) Summary: Application details Article-I.D.: cbnewsj.1993Apr5.223054.27874 Organization: AT&T Lines: 17 In article <1993Apr3.044405.16947@elektro.cmhnet.org>, charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes: > In article <1993Mar24.011823.7887@linus.mitre.org> cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes: > >Anyone try the spray on chain wax that was reviewed in one of the moto > >rags last month? > > > Yeah. I sprayed it all over my rear drive shaft housing, and it didn't > seem to make it any quieter at all <!!> Didn't you read the instructions first?? You're supposed to spray it in your ears so you won't be distracted by the chain-noise of the *other* bikes around you. That's why it's called "Chain *Wax*". Chuck Rogers car377@torreys.att.com car377@cbnewsj.att.com
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From: jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS) Subject: Re: Your opinion and what it means to me. Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos Lines: 74 In article <1993Apr20.204831.19788@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes: >In article <13516@news.duke.edu> infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew Infante) writes: >|Well, as a few of you so aptly put it, >|get off the road, jerk, we don't wanna hear your >|whining. >| >|Fine. >| >|Fuck off too. >| >|If you noticed, it was in 91, more than two years ago, >|and YES, I've learned, and it's cost me. >| >|And yes, I've known people (friends and relatives) who've >|been involved in drunk-related accidents (not them, they were hit) >|and my cousin is still recovering. >| >|No, I can't take back what happened. >| >|Yes, it was stupid. >| >|But, by reminding me about it all the time, you're >|neither helping me or yourself, so stuff your opinion. > >Hey, man, you brought it up. I agree completely, driving drunk is really >stupid, and I understand and appreciate that you feel bad about it. But >DWI is endemic in our society. It is a REAL problem. And we, as >motorcyclists, can be in the worst of vulnerable positions around a drunk >driver. (Alert readers might remember that last year I witnessed a DWI >accident (right bloody in front of me), and was unable to save the life >of one of the participants, as I reported here.) Also, drunk driving by >motorcyclists is a prime cause of their injury and death, which raises the >insurance rates, forces stupidly restrictive laws, and turns the public >against those of us who ride responsibly. > >In my view, drunk driving should carry a mandatory prison sentence. >It is one of the traffic offenses which is NOT a public funds issue, >but a genuine safety issue. So if YOU bring up the subject on rec.moto, >admitting having been caught DWI, and looking for sympathy over the >consequences, don't expect people to respond with warm wishes. > >Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com) | "I'm getting tired of You and the Beav should lighten up (esp the Beav). I agree that DUI/DWI is serious. We should have reasonable laws, strict enforcement, and tough sentences. But, Andrew did not post "looking for sympathy over the consequences." He posted asking for advice because he had an extremely high quote. His post was obviously valid because he later found insurance for LESS. He noted why he was in his predicament but did not defend in any way drunk driving (and has renounced drunk driving). There are too many repeat offenders to worry about and other BDC. Why try to make this person who is no longer part of the problem an outcast? He has paid his debt to society. Step off the high horse. We have all been irresponsible in the past. With that said, I'm guilty of the same type of hostility towards rapists. I think it comes because I feel the punishment is not severe enough. The same may be true of DWI/DUI. If that is the case, then it is our stinkin' gubment we need to change. If we had a reasonable law about DWI/DUI with a stiff penalty then fewer people would do it. At any rate, Andrew as paid his debt as defined by the law. If you think that debt is actually greater than the law mandates, tell your 'representatives'. Jack Waters II DoD#1919 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ I don't fear the thief in the night. Its the one that comes in the ~ ~ afternoon, when I'm still asleep, that I worry about. ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: tin@phan.Eng.Sun.COM (Tin Phan) Subject: Re: Cellular Phone (Portable) for sale Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Lines: 16 Distribution: usa NNTP-Posting-Host: phan Summary: Takes longer than 24 hours In article <79599@cup.portal.com>, mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes: > I offer $100, shipment at seller's expense, payment as personal check > sent by U.S. mail within 24 hours after receiving goods. I reserve the > right to return the goods, at my expense, if I find them to be defective > or otherwise unacceptable when I receive them (either the merchandise or > the check would be mailed within 24 hours). > > Mark Thorson I hope you realize that for a cellular phone, you need to subscribe to a Cellular carrier, and it usually takes at least one working day before the service is available to you. Only then you can find out whether the phone is working. Tin
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From: bohnert@leland.Stanford.EDU (matthew bohnert) Subject: Re: Rickey Henderson Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Distribution: usa Lines: 26 > >And Michael Jackson, Jack Nicholson, and Bill Cosby wouldn't be >making near as much money if they weren't entertainers. So what's >your point? Actually, I could care less what his salary is. It has something to do with the fact that we live in America, and everyone is entitled to whatever he can legally obtain. If Sandy Alderson and the Haas family willingly negotiate a salary of $35 million per year with Rickey, I couldn't care less. But what REALLY GETS MY GOAT is the bullshit he spouted in spring training, about `Well... sometimes I may not play as hard, or might be hurt more often, in a place where I'm not appreciated'. This quote was in the Chronicle about the second week of camp, and strongly suggests that he was going to dog it all year if the ownership didn't kiss his butt and ante up some more money. For God's sake, Rickey, you signed a contract 4 years ago, now honor it and play! Say all you want to about Steve Garvey, and believe me, I hated him too, but at least when he put his signature on a piece of paper he shut his mouth and played hard until the contract was up. Matt Bohnert
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From: icop@csa.bu.edu (Antonio Pera) Subject: Hockey & The Hispanic community Distribution: usa Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA Lines: 6 Originator: icop@csa Relying on Canadian tourists and transplanted Northeasterners to support a team in Miami is crazy; espaecially when you have really deserving cities without a team such as San Diego & Milwaukee. I wish the Panthers or whatever their name is well but if they can't sell to Hispanics, they're in deep doo-doo. Already, there are rumors that Tampa may move to Milwaukee.
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From: jon@trust.anu.edu.au (Jon GOUGH) Subject: Windows and multiple monitors >10m apart Organization: CSLab, Autralian National Uni. Lines: 16 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.15.182 Hi, I am working on gathering data on the way that users use computers. This involves getting subjects to type and use a mouse. I want to be able to watch what they are doing without being in the same room. It would be ideal if I could watch the session on another monitor without the subjects knowledge. I believe that spliting the monitor cable will only work for short distances, ie <5m. I will need to be approx 10m away, as the cable travels. The PC's are connected to a TCP\IP network and run Windows 3.1. Is there any software that will allow me to watch what is happening on another PC? Thanks Regards Jon Gough TRUST Project
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From: zeev@ccc.amdahl.com (Ze'ev Wurman) Subject: Is there ANY security in the Clipper? Organization: Amdahl Corp., Sunnyvale CA Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: sepia.key.amdahl.com It seems to me that all discussions about Clipper security are almost irrelevant - if I cannot choose the key, but have to use a key chosen for me by the foundry, the security of the WHOLE UNIVERSE OF USERS is as good (or as bad) as the security of VLSI Technologies Inc. It is a trivial effort to run any ciphertext agains ALL THE KEYS EVER MANUFACTURED - after all we are talking about 1 to 100 million keys that will ever be manufactured. The key depositories can be as secure and incorruptible as they wish to be, nobody cares anyway...:-( Now if someone would convince me that the shipping docks of VTI, ATT and others are impenetrable (remember: the chips have to ship with the key - you or the dealer are going to submit it to the authorities eventually) I'd be a bit happier. But do we really believe that the various governments (including ours) won't have the full lists of all the keys ever manufactured? Did I miss something here? My own opinions, quite obviously... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ From........: Ze'ev Wurman email.......: <zeev@key.amdahl.com> or <zeev@ccc.amdahl.com> Organization: Amdahl Corp. 46525 Landing Parkway (M/S 581), Freemont CA 94538 Phone.......: (510) 623-2345 (Office) Fax.........: (510) 770-0493 (Attn: Zeev Wurman)
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From: michael@jester.GUN.de (Michael Gerhards) Distribution: world Subject: Re: HELP: my pc freezes! X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Organization: private COHERENT system Lines: 15 Perry Egelmeers (perry@wswiop11.win.tue.nl) wrote: > ladanyi@cs.cornell.edu (La'szlo' Lada'nyi) writes: > >Problem: Occasionaly the machine freezes. At least that's what I thought, but > >recently I discovered that the machine works, just the keyboard freezes and > >the clock drops down from turbo (33Mhz) to standard (16Mhz) mode. > Perhaps you hit the ^S (Control S)? Try ^Q. > I know it doesn't explain the clock rate drop... We had the same problem in our company. We changed the keyboard-bios and after that, everything went fine. Our dealer told us that some boards of that series have a defect kbd-bios. Michael -- * michael@jester.gun.de * Michael Gerhards * Preussenstrasse 59 * * Germany 4040 Neuss * Voice: 49 2131 82238 *
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From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) Subject: Re: tvtwm & xsetroot, X11R5 and Sparc 10 keyboard Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute Lines: 32 NNTP-Posting-Host: darwin.pop.psu.edu In article <MAILQUEUE-101.930420145015.384@oak.shu.ac.uk> D.Haywood@sheffield-hallam.ac.uk writes: >Hi, > Environment: Sun Sparc 10, SunOs 4.1.3. X11R5 path level 23. My X process >is started by xdm. Okay, that's good. I'm typing this from exactly the same setup. (US-UNIX layout keyboard) I did install the sunkbd patch, though. > i) I want to setup the backgroud (root window?) of the tvtwm display to > display the escherknot etc (grey is a very boring colour to work on)! Make sure you're using "ssetroot", which comes with tvtwm. When tvtwm starts up, it nukes the existing root window. Use an "ssetroot" after tvtwm starts up. (You could spawn off a "(sleep 10; ssetroot ...)&") You can also use "VirtualDesktopBackgroundPixmap filename" or just VirtualDesktopBackground if you just want another color besides grey. > ii) When I open an Xterm on the Sparc 10, not all of the keys are recognised > and some keys on the keyboard are not sending the correct characters. Did you install the sunkbd patch? It's in the contrib directory on export. All the keys on my keyboard send events properly, except the following: The End, PageUp, PageDown on the 6-key cluster aren't recognized. Even the compose key works. (Though I can't seem to get the composed characters in an xterm to get passed.) Anyone have a fix for the last two? --Dave -- System Administrator, Penn State Population Research Institute * Dog Dianetics ("Woof woof woof? Page 725.") - Kibo
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From: fontenot@ravl.rice.edu (Dwayne Jacques Fontenot) Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!! Organization: Rice University Lines: 25 In <C5tEnu.112F@ns1.nodak.edu> green@plains.NoDak.edu (Bill Green) writes: >Just to shed some light on the fire, it was widely reported (AP, etc.) that >there WERE several witnesses to BD folks starting the fires. It has also >been reported that the fires broke out in several places at once, which >rules out a Bradley knocking over a lamp, etc. as the cause. Consider this: The BDs had more than one lamp; The tanks made more than one hole in the building. Did anyone else notice on the video that it appeared that wherever there was smoke coming out of the building, there was a tank nearby? The fact that it appears that fires started in several places does not rule out anything. Also, where are these several witnesses? The way I heard it (from the FBI spokesman on CNN) the "witnesses" were all people driving the tanks. >One other point, I'm no fan of Janet Reno, but I do like the way she had the >"balls" to go ahead and take full responsibility. Seems like the waffle boy >had problems figuring out just where he stood on the issue. Too bad nothing will happen to her or him. The FBI and the media have done their job well. Dwayne Jacques Fontenot
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From: Mark Crispin <mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Subject: Re: BMW MOA members read this! Organization: University of Washington Lines: 2 NNTP-Posting-Host: tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1qkie6$3nd@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can I resign BMW MOA and get the remainder of my 5-year membership refunded?
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From: dbm0000@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (David B. Mckissock) Subject: Gibbons Outlines SSF Redesign Guidance News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Nntp-Posting-Host: tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center / Cleveland, Ohio Lines: 76 NASA Headquarters distributed the following press release today (4/6). I've typed it in verbatim, for you folks to chew over. Many of the topics recently discussed on sci.space are covered in this. Gibbons Outlines Space Station Redesign Guidance Dr. John H. Gibbons, Director, Office of Science and Technology Policy, outlined to the members-designate of the Advisory Committee on the Redesign of the Space Station on April 3, three budget options as guidance to the committee in their deliberations on the redesign of the space station. A low option of $5 billion, a mid-range option of $7 billion and a high option of $9 billion will be considered by the committee. Each option would cover the total expenditures for space station from fiscal year 1994 through 1998 and would include funds for development, operations, utilization, Shuttle integration, facilities, research operations support, transition cost and also must include adequate program reserves to insure program implementation within the available funds. Over the next 5 years, $4 billion is reserved within the NASA budget for the President's new technology investment. As a result, station options above $7 billion must be accompanied by offsetting reductions in the rest of the NASA budget. For example, a space station option of $9 billion would require $2 billion in offsets from the NASA budget over the next 5 years. Gibbons presented the information at an organizational session of the advisory committee. Generally, the members-designate focused upon administrative topics and used the session to get acquainted. They also received a legal and ethics briefing and an orientation on the process the Station Redesign Team is following to develop options for the advisory committee to consider. Gibbons also announced that the United States and its international partners -- the Europeans, Japanese, and Canadians -- have decided, after consultation, to give "full consideration" to use of Russian assets in the course of the space station redesign process. To that end, the Russians will be asked to participate in the redesign effort on an as-needed consulting basis, so that the redesign team can make use of their expertise in assessing the capabilities of MIR and the possible use of MIR and other Russian capabilities and systems. The U.S. and international partners hope to benefit from the expertise of the Russian participants in assessing Russian systems and technology. The overall goal of the redesign effort is to develop options for reducing station costs while preserving key research and exploration capabilities. Careful integration of Russian assets could be a key factor in achieving that goal. Gibbons reiterated that, "President Clinton is committed to the redesigned space station and to making every effort to preserve the science, the technology and the jobs that the space station program represents. However, he also is committed to a space station that is well managed and one that does not consume the national resources which should be used to invest in the future of this industry and this nation." NASA Administrator Daniel S. Goldin said the Russian participation will be accomplished through the East- West Space Science Center at the University of Maryland under the leadership of Roald Sagdeev.
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From: hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU Subject: Re: No land for peace - No negotiatians Originator: hasan@haley.mcrcim.mcgill.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: haley.mcrcim.mcgill.edu Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines Lines: 45 In article <1993Apr5.175047.17368@unocal.com>, stssdxb@st.unocal.com (Dorin Baru) writes: |> Alan Stein writes: |> |> >What are you talking about? The Rabin government has clearly |> >indicated its interest in a territorial compromise that would leave |> >the vast majority of the Arabs in Judea, Samaria and Gaza outside |> >Israeli control. (just an interrupting comment here) Since EARLY 1980's , israelis said they are willing to give up the Adminstration rule of the occupied terretories to Palestineans. Palestineans refused and will refuse such settlement that denies them their right of SELF-DETERMINATION. period. |> I know. I was just pointing out that not compromising may be a bad idea. And |> there are, in Israel, voices against negotiations. And I think there are many |> among palestineans also against any negociations. |> |> Just an opinion |> |> Dorin Ok. I donot know why there are israeli voices against negotiations. However, i would guess that is because they refuse giving back a land for those who have the right for it. As for the Arabian and Palestinean voices that are against the current negotiations and the so-called peace process, they are not against peace per se, but rather for their well-founded predictions that Israel would NOT give an inch of the West bank (and most probably the same for Golan Heights) back to the Arabs. An 18 months of "negotiations" in Madrid, and Washington proved these predictions. Now many will jump on me saying why are you blaming israelis for no-result negotiations. I would say why would the Arabs stall the negotiations, what do they have to loose ? Arabs feel that the current "negotiations" is ONLY for legitimizing the current status-quo and for opening the doors of the Arab markets for israeli trade and "oranges". That is simply unacceptable and would be revoked. Just an opinion. Hasan
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From: jpw@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein) Subject: Sunrise/ sunset times Organization: Drexel University, College of Engineering, Philadelphia, PA Lines: 8 Hello. I am looking for a program (or algorithm) that can be used to compute sunrise and sunset times. I would appreciate any advice. Joe Wetstein jpw@coe.drexel.edu
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From: graeme@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Graeme Gill) Subject: Re: looking for circle algorithm faster than Bresenhams Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia Lines: 28 In article <1993Apr13.025240.8884@nwnexus.WA.COM>, mpdillon@halcyon.com (Michael Dillon) writes: > I have an algorithm similar to Bresenhams line drawing algorithm, that > draws a line by stepping along the minor axis and drawing slices like > AAAA, BBBB, CCCC in the following diagram. > > AAAA > BBBB > CCCC > Yes, that's known as "Bresenhams Run Length Slice Algorithm for Incremental lines". See Fundamental Algorithms for Computer Graphics, Springer-Verlag, Berlin Heidelberg 1985. > I have tried to extrapolate this to circles but I can't figure out > how to determine the length of the slices. Any ideas? Hmm. I don't think I can help you with this, but you might take a look at the following: "Double-Step Incremental Generation of Lines and Circles", X. Wu and J. G. Rokne, Computer Graphics and Image processing, Vol 37, No. 4, Mar. 1987, pp. 331-334 "Double-Step Generation of Ellipses", X. Wu and J. G. Rokne, IEEE Computer Graphics & Applications, May 1989, pp. 56-69 Graeme Gill.
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From: paul@actrix.co.at (Paul Gillingwater) Subject: Re: Merlin, Mithras and Magick Organization: Home Office in Vienna, Austria X-Newsreader: rusnews v1.01 Lines: 28 kosinski@us.oracle.com (Kevin Osinski) writes: > I recall reading in Michael (?) Rutherford's novel "Sarum" a scene in > which the son of a Roman nobleman living in Britain takes part in a > secret ceremony involving a bull. He stands naked in a pit covered > with some sort of scaffolding while assistants coax a bull to stand on > the scaffolding. They then fatally stab the bull, which douses the > worshipper in the pit with blood. This is supposedly some sort of > rite of passage for members of the bull cult. I wonder if this is > related to the Mithras cult? Yes, this is certainly one of the traditional ideas about the Mithraic cult (although not the only one.) It had many elements that seem to have been borrowed by Catholicism (e.g. the Mass, communion, the sharing of a sacred meal, consecration of bread and wine, etc.) For quite an amusing novel that uses this same idea, check out: The Covenant of the Flame by David Morrell. It has some quite interesting occult bits, and lots of killing. I won't spoil it by revealing the ending, but I will say that it is relevant to Mithraism. -- paul@actrix.co.at (Paul Gillingwater) Home Office in Vienna, Austria ** If you read news with rn or trn, ask me about EEP! the .newsrc editor!
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From: jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)... Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc. Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.3.202 ejv2j@Virginia.EDU ("Erik Velapoldi") writes: >What the hell is happening to this great country of ours? I >can see boyhood pranks of peeing off of bridges and such, but >20 pound rocks??! Has our society really stooped this low?? You make it sound like this behavior is new. It isn't. A lot of pedestrian bridges have fencing that curls up over the sidewalk to make this kind of think a lot harder to do. I don't understand the mentality myself, but then again I couldn't figure out MOVE! (I'm glad they bombed 'em) or the Waco Wackos either. (Newsgroup list trimmed significantly) jim frost jimf@centerline.com
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From: kbanaian@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu (King Banaian) Subject: Re: Swimming pool defense Lines: 24 Organization: Pitzer College In article <1993Apr17.201310.13693@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes: >In article <dasmith.734719640@husc.harvard.edu> dasmith@husc8.harvard.edu ( David Smith) writes:>>Granted, the simple fact of holding down a job will improve these kids' chances>>of getting another job in the future, but what inner city kid would want to hold>>down just one more minimum wage job when there is so much more money to be made>>dealing drugs? > >What suburban kid would want to hold down a minimum wage job when there is so >much more money to be made dealing drugs? > >Yet, somehow, surburban kids do hold down minimum wage jobs. So do inner >city kids, when give the chance. Any reason you think that inner city kids >are incapable of doing legitimate work? I suppose the correct answer is not "family values"? S'pose not. Never mind. Sorry. --King "Sparky" Banaian |"It's almost as though young kbanaian@pitzer.claremont.edu |white guys get up in the Dept. of Economics, Pitzer College |morning and have a big smile Latest 1993 GDP forecast: 2.4% |on their face ... because, |you know, Homer wrote the |_Iliad_." -- D'Souza
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) Subject: Re: RUMOUR - Keenan signs with Rangers? Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department Lines: 22 In article <1993Apr16.171347.784@news.columbia.edu> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes: > >UPI Clarinet has just relayed a "scoop" from the Toronto Sun >(or was that Star? I like the Star myself ...) that Iron Mike >Keenan has come to an agreement with the New York Rangers for >next season. Interestingly, this comes the day after the Times >Sports had an editorial about how the Rangers need their own >Pat Riley ... who cares about what happens after next season? > The rumour was basically everywhere in Toronto based on reports that Keenan has told both San Jose and Philadelphia that he was no longer interested in pursuing further negotiations with either team. The Ranger announcement is supposed to happen tomorrow supposedly. The Rangers have so many veterans that they had to get a coach with "weight" and a proven record...and whom they know Messier respects. Gerald
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Subject: Re: Players Rushed to Majors From: admiral@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Steve C Liu) Expires: 5/9/93 Distribution: usa Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA Summary: Big Ben NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Lines: 25 I don't know if you could call him rushed, but "Big" Ben McDonald didn't much time at all in the minors. Of course that was because the balls used in AAA had seams too large and gave McDonald blisters forcing him to go on the DL several times. He's done most of his learning here in the majors. Of course Gregg "Wild Thing" Olson and Mike "Deserved a Cy Young" Mussina didn't spend much time in the minors either. I read somewhere that pitchers are less likely to need that much time in the minors anyway so maybe that has something to do with it. Let's go O's! Why Not? Admiral Steve "Still reliving Sept. 30, 1989" Liu ____________________________________________________________________________ |Admiral Steve C. Liu Internet Address: admiral@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu| |Commander-In-Chief of the Security Division of the Pi Club - Earth Chapter| | President of the Earth Chapter of the Pi Club - Founded April 1990 | |1993 World Champions - Baltimore Orioles - Why Not? - Series in the Yards| | 1992-1993 Stanley Cup Champions - Washington Capitals | | "Committee for the Liberation and Intergration of Terrifying Organisms | | and their Rehabilitation Into Society, the only problem is that the | | abbreviation is CLITORIS." from the "Polymorph" episode of Red Dwarf | |*****The Bangles are the greatest female rock band that ever existed!*****| | This sig has been brought to you by... Frungy! The Sport of Kings! | |"My God man, drilling holes through his head is not the answer!" Dr. McCoy| |"You know, Susanna Hoffs has a really nice ass." - comment by M. Flanagan | | The Pi Club - Creating the largest .signatures for the past nine months | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: johnf@HQ.Ileaf.COM (John Finlayson) Subject: Re: Exercise and Migraine Nntp-Posting-Host: findog Organization: Interleaf, Inc. Lines: 49 In article <1993Apr15.163133.25634@ntmtv> janet@ntmtv.com (Janet Jakstys) writes: > ... the other day I played tennis during my lunch >hour. I'm out of tennis shape so it was very intense exercise. I >got overheated, and dehydrated. Afterwards, I noticed a tingling >sensation all over my head then about 2 hours later, I could feel >a migraine start. (I continued to drink water in the afternoon.) >I took cafergot, but it didn't help and the pain started although >it wasn't as intense as it usually is and about 9pm that night, the >pain subsided. > >This isn't the first time that I've had a migraine occur after exercise. >I'm wondering if anyone else has had the same experience and I wonder >what triggers the migraine in this situation (heat buildup? dehydration?). >I'm not giving up tennis so is there anything I can do (besides get into >shape and don't play at high noon) to prevent this? Hi Janet, Sounds exactly like mine. Same circumstance, same onset symptoms, same cafergot uselessness, same duration. In fact, of all the people I know who have migraines, none have been so similar. There is such a wide variation between people with respect to what causes their headaches, that I generally don't bother sharing what I've learned about mine, but since ours seem to be alike, here are my observations. I don't think it's heat, per se (I've had more in winter than summer). Dehydration could conceivably figure, though. Try tanking up before playing rather than after. Being in shape doesn't seem to help me much, either. I've identified four factors that do make a difference (listed in descending order of importance): 1) Heavy exercise 2) Sleep deprivation 3) Fasting (e.g., skipped breakfast) 4) Physical trauma (e.g., head bonk) Heavy exercise has preceded all of my post-adolescent migraines, but I don't get migraines after every heavy exercise session. One or more of the other factors *must* be present (usually #2). Since I discovered this, I've been nearly migraine-free -- relapsing only once every two or three years when I get cocky ("It's been so long, maybe I just don't get them anymore") and stop being careful. Hope this is helpful. John.
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From: rrmadiso@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (*** CHUCK ***) Subject: CORRECTIONS --- Re: Playoff predictions Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 29 Everyone... Read this. If you have already sent your predictions, please correct the Patrick division if you would like. You have until midnight on monday (my time.) You may need to correct these games... 3 - Pittsburgh vs. New Jersey 4 - New York Islanders vs. Washington 10 - Patrick Division Winner 13 - Wales Conference Winner 15 - Stanley Cup Winner Please forward all corrections to Richard Madison rrmadiso@napier.uwaterloo.ca >1st rd: Pens over Isles in 4. > Devils over Caps in 6. >2nd: Pens over Devils in 7.
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From: ak333@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Martin Linsenbigler) Subject: Re: icons gone Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Lines: 26 Reply-To: ak333@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Martin Linsenbigler) NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu In a previous article, hsano@cs.ulowell.edu (Hitoshi Sano) says: >I'm not sure if this is the proper place to post this. > >The icons on Win3.1 Program Manager have all dissapeared and i need to >restore them. The files all seem to be there on the disk and I think there >must be a better way than re installing everything. Thanks for any help! > > Hmmmmm you know this happened to me also. I am not sure what caused it. I think there might have been a system error and dumped windows. I came back and all was well except no groups. Program Manager was EMPTY. All the .grp files were in the directory. I had to remake the groups with the new and group selection. ALL THE ICONS AND FILES INSIDE THE GROUPS WERE STILL THERE AND WORKING FINE. Just the groups had gone out of program manager. Strange !!!! C-ya..... /\/\artin -- This communication is sent by /\/\artin University of Arizona Tucson ========================================================================= ak333@cleveland.freenet.edu mlinsenb@ccit.arizona.edu mlinsenb@arizvms DEATH HAS BEEN DEAD FOR ABOUT 2,000 YEARS ****** FOLLOW THE KING OF KINGS
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From: batwood@SU1AB.Harris-ATD.com (Brett Atwood) Subject: Re: I thought commercial Advertising was Not allowed Nntp-Posting-Host: su1ab.ess.harris.com Distribution: world Reply-To: batwood@su1b.ess.harris.com Organization: Harris (Government Communications System Division) Lines: 4 |> [ debate deleted ] I guess it is allowed.
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From: davallen@vms.macc.wisc.edu Subject: Re: Barbecued foods and health risk Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center Distribution: world Lines: 88 In article <79738@cup.portal.com>, mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes... >This reminds me of the last Graham Kerr cooking show I saw. Today he >smoked meat on the stovetop in a big pot! He used a strange technique >I'd never seen before. > >He took a big pot with lid, and placed a tray in it made from aluminum foil. >The tray was about the size and shape of a typical coffee-table ash tray, >made by crumpling a sheet of foil around the edges. > >In the tray, he placed a couple spoonfuls of brown sugar, a similar >quantity of brown rice (he said any rice will do), the contents of two >teabags of Earl Grey tea, and a few cloves. > >On top of this was placed an ordinary aluminum basket-type steamer, with >two chicken breasts in it. The lid was put on, and the whole assembly >went on the stovetop at high heat for 10 or 12 minutes. > >Later, he removed what looked like smoked chicken breasts. What surprises >and concerns me are: > >1) No wood chips. Where does the smoke flavor come from? > >2) About 5 or 10 years ago, I remember hearing that carmel color > (obtained by caramelizing sugar -- a common coloring and flavoring > agent) had been found to be carcinogenic. I believe they injected > it under the skin of rats, or something. If the results were conclusive, > caramel color would not be legal in the U.S., yet it is still being > used. Was the initial research result found to be incorrect, or what? > >3) About 5 or 10 years ago, I remember Earl Grey tea being implicated > as carcinogenic, because it contains oil of bergamot (an extract > from the skin of a type of citrus fruit). Does anyone know whatever > happened with that story? If it were carcinogenic, Earl Grey tea > could not have it as an additive, yet it apparently continues to do > so. > >WRT natural wood smoke (I've smoking a duck right now, as it happens), >I've noticed that a heavily-smoked food item will have an unpleasant tangy >taste when eaten directly out of the smoker if the smoke has only recently >stopped flowing. I find the best taste to be had by using dry wood chips, >getting lots of smoke right up at the beginning of the cooking process, >then slowly barbequing for hours and hours without adding additional wood chips. > >My theory is that the unpleasant tangy molecules are low-molecular weight >stuff, like terpenes, and that the smoky flavor molecules are some sort >of larger molecule more similar to tar. The long barbeque time after >the initial intensive smoke drives off the low-molecular weight stuff, >just leaving the flavor behind. Does anyone know if my theory is correct? > >I also remember hearing that the combustion products of fat dripping >on the charcoal and burning are carcinogenic. For that reason, and because >it covers the product with soot and some unpleasant tanginess, I only grill >non-drippy meats like prawns directly over hot coals. I do stuff like this >duck by indirect heat. I have a long rectangular Weber, and I put the coals >at one end and the meat at the other end. The fat drops directly on the >floor below the meat, and next time I use the barbeque I make the fire >in that end to burn off the fat and help ignite the coals. > >And yet another reason I've heard not to smoke or barbeque meat is that >smoked cured meat, like pork sausage and bacon, contains >nitrosamines, which are carcinogenic. I'm pretty sure this claim actually >has some standing, don't know about the others. > >An amusing incident I recall was the Duncan Hines scandal, when it was >discovered that the people who make Duncan Hines cake mix were putting >a lot of ethylene dibromide (EDB) into the cake mix to suppress weevils. >This is a fumigant which is known to be carcinogenic. >The guy who represented the company in the press conference defended >himself by saying that the risk from eating Duncan Hines products every day >for a year would be equal to the cancer risk from eating two charcoal- >broiled steaks. What a great analogy! When I first heard that, my >immediate reaction was we should make that a standard unit! One charcoal >broiled steak would be equivalent to 0.5 Duncans! I don't understand the assumption that because something is found to be carcinogenic that "it would not be legal in the U.S.". I think that naturally occuring substances (excluding "controlled" substances) are pretty much unregulated in terms of their use as food, food additives or other "consumption". It's only when the chemists concoct (sp?) an ingredient that it falls under FDA regulations. Otherwise, if they really looked closely they would find a reason to ban almost everything. How in the world do you suppose it's legal to "consume" tobacco products (which probably SHOULD be banned)? Dave Allen Space Science & Engr. Ctr. UW-Madison
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From: root@zeos.com (Superuser) Subject: ZEOS VESA Video Changes & Specs Organization: Zeos International, Ltd Lines: 61 As most of you know, we have recently changed our standard VESA local-bus video card from our own NCR-based card to the new Diamond Stealth 24 VLB card for packages 2, 3, and 4 (package #1 still has the NCR "screamer'). We also have added the $149 upgrade from the Stealth 24 or NCR to the Diamond Viper to our product list. Below are the comparisons of the different cards in the configurations we will offer: NCR Stealth 24 VLB Viper VLB 64Ox480 Colors 16,256 16,256,32K,64K,16.7M 16,256,32K,64K,16.7M * 8OOx6OO Colors 16,256 16,256,32K,64K 16,256,32K,64K * 1024x768 Colors 16,256 16,256 16,256 1280x1024 Colors 16 16 16 Video Processor NCR 77C22E+ S3 86C805 Weitek Power 9000 Video RAM 1M 1M 1M Max RAM addressable by Vid Processor 3M 2M 2M RAM Type DRAM DRAM VRAM User RAM Upgrade? No (no sockets) No (no sockets) Yes (thru Diamond) 64Ox480 Refresh 60-72 Hz 60-72 Hz 60-72 Hz 8OOx6OO Refresh 56-72 Hz 56-72 Hz 56-72 Hz 1024x768 Refresh 44-70 Hz 43-72 Hz 43-72 Hz 128Oxl024 Refresh 43 Hz 43-60 Hz 43-74 Hz 26 pin VESA Feature Connector No Yes No Conflict with x2E8 port addr (COM4) No YES* No* Drivers for: Win 3.1 Yes Yes Yes ACad 9/10/11 Yes Yes Yes ACad 12 No Yes** Yes** VESA Yes Yes Yes OS/2, WinNT NO*** NO*** NO*** Win 3.1 WINMARKS 10.5M**** 21 M**** 50M**** ^L * Viper VLB with 2M of video RAM also gives 8OOx6OO 16.7M, 1024x768 32K & 64K, and 1280xl 024 256 color. S3-based cards, since they are downward compatible, will have the conflict with 2E8. Diamond admits conflict will exist with the Stealth 24. The prelim Viper manual incorrectly lists the S3 port addresses. No conflict. ** AutoCAD 12 drivers are now currently available for Stealth, SpeedSTAR 24X, Stealth 24 VLB, and Viper VLB. They can only be obtained from Diamond Tech Support, 408-736-2000 and NOT on any BBS. ** OS/2 2.0 is supported for Standard VGA for all cards. SVGA drivers available in the near future. Windows NT is not released yet, and no drivers are available currently. Diamond hopes to have all current products supported in the Win NT release, on the NT disks. *** NCR testing is coming from tests ran in our tech support department was at ZEOS at 1024x768x256 on Zeos DX2-66. These results are not official. Diamond results are from their own DX2-66, 1024x768 256 colors @ 7OHz refresh.
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From: 1605112EC400@sscl.uwo.ca Subject: jays game Organization: Social Science Computing Laboratory Keywords: score? Nntp-Posting-Host: conslt.sscl.uwo.ca Lines: 6 anyone know the outcome of tonight's jays game? -home runs? -winning pitcher? eco gods at U.W.O
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From: davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Dave Edmondson) Subject: Re: GPz900 runs like a bitch. Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Lines: 31 I tried mailing you but your domain seems not to exist, can't even get sinet.slb.com to admit to knowing about geco, anyway here we go: In article <1q7kq1INNjl9@griffin.orpington.sgp.slb.com> you wrote: : Subject:GPz900 runs like a bitch. : Anyone have a cure for sub zero running probs on a GPz 900. : Anything below 3000 revs and the bike wants to cut out all the time, : the recommended cure in the bike mags seems to be to switch off the engine : for a minute to thaw the ice,but this is obviously not mutch of a cure. : mine has had the kawasaki heated carb mod but the problem persists, : i've covered the rad which makes the bike run warmer and moves the problem : down the temp scale a degree or two. : Has anyone tried a dynojet kit on the 900 or (getting desperate) different : carbs or the fuel injection off the GPz 1100. : Have you talked to Kawasaki, maybe they did another version of the upgrade kit. Got to be worth a phone call. Did you do the carb mod or did you buy it secondhand from someone who said that it had been done. Is that Orpington in Kent? If so have you heard of the Ogri mailing list which I run? Its an email list for bikers in the UK and interested parties, available live or as a daily digest. Let me know if you want to subscribe. Good luck, Dave -- David Edmondson davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk Queen Mary & Westfield College DoD#0777 Guzzi Le Mans 1000 "This means the end of the horse-drawn Zeppelin."
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From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: What if the USSR had reached the Moon first? Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) Organization: Destructive Testing Systems Lines: 63 In article <93110.031905SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes: >In article <1993Apr18.091051.14496@ke4zv.uucp>, gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) >says: >>It's conceivable that Luna will have a military purpose, it's possible >>that Luna will have a commercial purpose, but it's most likely that >>Luna will only have a scientific purpose for the next several hundred >>years at least. Therefore, Lunar bases should be predicated on funding >>levels little different from those found for Antarctic bases. Can you >>put a 200 person base on the Moon for $30 million a year? Even if you >>use grad students? > >You might be able to _run_ one for that; put it there, hardly. > >Why do you think at least a couple centuries before there will >be significant commerical activity on the Moon? Wishful thinking mostly. It's more likely that the Moon will never be the site of major commercial activity. As far as we know it has no materials we can't get cheaper right here on Earth or from asteroids and comets, aside from the semi-mythic He3 that *might* be useful in low grade fusion reactors. Exploring it would satisfy a curiosity itch, and it's position in the gravity well of Earth coupled with it's heat sink capacity could offer some military utility for "high ground" military weapons systems, but it holds very minute commercial value. If space travel becomes cheap enough, it might become a tourist attraction as Mt. Everest and the Antarctic have become, but that's a very minor activity in the global scope of things. Luna has an inconvienent gravity field. It's likely too low to prevent calcium loss, muscle atrophy, and long term genetic drift. Yet it's too high to do micro-G manufacturing. Space based colonies and factories that can be spun to any convienent value of G look much better. Luna has a modest vacuum and raw solar exposure two weeks a month, but orbital sites can have better vacuums and continous solar exposure. Luna offers a source of light element rocks that can serve as raw materials, heatsink, and shielding. The asteroids and comets offer sources of both light and heavy elements, and volatile compounds, and many are in less steep gravity wells so that less delta-v is required to reach them. We don't use 2/3rds of the Earth now, the seafloors, and we virtually ignore Antarctica, a whole continent. That's because we don't have to deal with those conditions in order to make a buck. Luna is a much more expensive place to visit, or to live and work. I think we'll use the easier places first. That pushes Lunar development back at least a few centuries, if not much longer. Luna's main short term value would be as a place for a farside radio astronomy observatory, shielded from the noisy Earth. Or as the site of a laser, particle beam, or linear accelerator weapons system for defending Earth, or bombarding it as the case may be. The first is unlikely because of the high cost for such a basic science instrument. The second is just as unlikely because conventional nukes are good enough, and the military would really rather see the Earth safe for conventional warfare again. There's little glory in watching from a bunker as machines fight each other over continental ranges. Little ultimate profit either. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
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From: PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal) Subject: Re: Gun Control (was Re: We're Mad as Hell at the TV News) Article-I.D.: martha.1993Apr6.161640.18833 Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education Lines: 46 In article <C4tM1H.ECF@magpie.linknet.com> manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve Manes) writes: >hambidge@bms.com wrote: >: In article <C4psoG.C6@magpie.linknet.com>, manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve Manes) writes: > >: >: Rate := per capita rate. The UK is more dangerous. >: >: Though you may be less likely to be killed by a handgun, the average >: >: individual citizen in the UK is twice as likely to be killed >: >: by whatever means as the average Swiss. Would you feel any better >: >: about being killed by means other than a handgun? I wouldn't. >: >: >What an absurd argument. Switzerland is one-fifth the size of the >: >UK with one-eigth as many people therefore at any given point on >: >Swiss soil you are more likely to be crow bait. More importantly, >: >you are 4x as likely to be killed by the next stranger approaching >: >you on a Swiss street than in the UK. > >: You are betraying your lack of understanding about RATE versus TOTAL >: NUMBER. Rates are expressed, often, as #/100,000 population. >: Therefore, if a place had 10 deaths and a population of 100,000, the >: rate would be 10/100,000. A place that had 50 deaths and a population >: of 1,000,000 would hav a rate of 5/100,000. The former has a higher >: rate, the latter a higher total. You are less likely to die in the >: latter. Simple enuff? > >For chrissakes, take out your calculator and work out the numbers. >Here... I've preformatted them for you to make it easier: > > handgun homicides/population > ---------------------------- > Switzerland : 24 / 6,350,000 > UK : 8 / 55,670,000 > >.... and then tell me again how Switzerland is safer with a more >liberal handgun law than the UK is without...by RATE or TOTAL NUMBER. >Your choice. If you want to talk "less likely to get killed with a handgun" you'd have a point. "Safer" includes other things than simply handguns, and you can't conclude "safer" by ignoring them. Now if somebody's got the total homicide rates... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ David Veal Univ. of Tenn. Div. of Cont. Education Info. Services Group PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (Mail to VEAL@utkvm1.utk.edu will bounce.) "Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed." - Lazarus Long
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From: callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison) Subject: Re: Slick 50, any good? Nntp-Posting-Host: uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA Lines: 16 Hmmm....I was listening to the local radio expert (who is, amazingly enough, an Honest-to-God Expert(tm); it's amazing what he knows...), and he said that, based on his conversations with the inventor of Slick50 (who is no longer with the comapny, due to some kind of conflict), he avoids it like the plague. He does recommend other teflon-based/type oil additives, though. James James P. Callison Microcomputer Coordinator, U of Oklahoma Law Center Callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu /\ Callison@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu DISCLAIMER: I'm not an engineer, but I play one at work... The forecast calls for Thunder...'89 T-Bird SC "It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. You take away all he has and all he's ever gonna have." --Will Munny, "Unforgiven"
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From: GAnderson@Cmutual.com.au (Gavin Anderson) Subject: Help - Looking for a Medical Journal Article - Whiplash/Cervical Pain Lines: 37 Organization: Colonial Mutual Life Australia X-Newsreader: FTPNuz (DOS) v1.0 Lines: 24 Hi, I am not sure where to post this message, please contact me if I'm way off the mark. On 19.3.93 my wife went to her General Practitioner (Doctor). He mentioned an article from a medical journal that is of great interest to us. He had read it in the previous three months but has been unable to find it again. The article was about Whiplash Injury/Cervical Pain. It mentions the use of a MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imagery) machine as a diagnostic tool and the work of a neurosurgeon who relived cervical pain. This article is most likely in an Australian medical journal. I very much want to obtain the name of the article, journal and author because the case matches my wife. We would very much appreciate anyone's help in this matter via email preferably. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gavin Anderson email: GAnderson@cmutual.com.au Analyst/Programmer. phone: +61-3-607-6299 Colonial Mutual Life Aust. (ACN 004021809) fax : +61-3-283-1095 -----------Some people never consciously discover their antipodes---------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gavin Anderson email: GAnderson@cmutual.com.au Analyst/Programmer. phone: +61-3-607-6299 Colonial Mutual Life Aust. (ACN 004021809) fax : +61-3-283-1095 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: ttesta@kali.enet.dec.com (Tom Testagrossa) Subject: Re: psychnet Reply-To: ttesta@kali.enet.dec.com (Tom Testagrossa) Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard, Ma. Lines: 33 --In article <1pfg45INNk23@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca>, okabe@unixg.ubc.ca (Ian Okabe) writes: **************************************************************** * ////// ---------------------- * // // "Electronic Networking For / PsychNet.Com / * ////// "Professional Psychology." /Serving Psychologists/ * // sychNet (1-800-541-2598) / World Wide / *// ----------------------- ************************************************************ >Whats with this psychnet thing...its on just about everyones's >posting no matter where they post from. Its getting very annoying. >-- >Ian T. Okabe (okabe@unixg.ubc.ca) >Atmospheric Sciences, University of British Columbia, Vancouver, Canada It's an experiment, place a not so subliminal, slightly cagey message in front of a viewer and see how long it takes to create a response, and what was the response... It was the same thing with the "Blow me" message, only it had a quicker response time...and some unexpected responses along with the expectedly negative ones... Anyone see how long that took? Yours, in jest... Tom T ********************************************************************** * Tom Testagrossa - E-MAIL: ttesta@kali.enet.dec.com * * US-mail: 132 Clarendon St Apt #2 * * Fitchburg, Ma 01420 U.S.A. * * Phone: Work (508)493-0437 (Voicemail)* * Home (508)342-2362 * * Ask me about my guitars... * ***********************************************************************
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From: aj359@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher C. Morton) Subject: Re: Waco Shootout Highlights Total Irresponsibility of the Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Lines: 13 Reply-To: aj359@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher C. Morton) NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu In a previous article, irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) says: >Come on, guys, looks like its time to move that juvenile public-post >either to E-mail or to a different newsgroup (alt.sex.bondage.holly.silva?). No, Brent that would be alt.sex.bondage.holly.silva.goofy.anti.semite.... :) -- ************************************************************************* If you were smarter, you'd have these opinions.... *******************************************************************************
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From: u96_msopher@vaxc.stevens-tech.edu Subject: Phils are still looking immaculate! Lines: 18 Organization: Stevens Institute Of Technology Ladies and gentleman, Step one was taken on the Phils' triumphant trip this year tonight! (Yes, that was English!) Mulholland's ERA after tonight's game? 0.00...nice try Drabek! NINJA JEW
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From: tim@kimba.catt.citri.edu.au (Tim Liddelow) Subject: Help building X11R5 with gcc Keywords: X11R5, gcc Organization: CATT Centre at CITRI, Melbourne, Australia Lines: 16 Can people please send me any hints on building X11R5 with gcc 2.3.3 ? Is there any pitfalls to be avoided ? Any hints ? I would appreciate hearing other peoples' stories on this. --tim -- ________________________________________________________________________________ Tim Liddelow for(;;) fork(); Systems Programmer Centre of Advanced Technology in Telecommunications My brain on a bad day. CITRI, Melbourne, Australia internet : tim@kimba.catt.citri.edu.au Phone : +61 3 282 2455 Fax : +61 3 282 2444 ________________________________________________________________________________
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From: mcrosbie@batman.bmd.trw.com Subject: Any Syclone or Typhoon owners out there? Lines: 4 I want to start of list for Syclone and Typhoon owners. If you are interested in participating, please contact me via e-mail. Merrill
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From: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein) Subject: HYPOGLYCEMIA Distribution: world Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis Reply-To: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein) Lines: 19 >From: anello@adcs00.fnal.gov (Anthony Anello) >Can anyone tell me if a bloodcount of 40 when diagnosed as hypoglycemic is >dangerous, i.e. indicates a possible pancreatic problem? One Dr. says no, the >other (not his specialty) says the first is negligent and that another blood Blood glucose levels of 40 or so are common several hours after a big meal. This level will usually not cause symptoms. >test should be done. Also, what is a good diet (what has worked) for a hypo- >glycemic? If you mean "reactive" hypoglycemia, there are usually no symptoms, hence there is no disease, hence the dietary recommendations are the same as for anyone else. If a patient complains of dizziness, faintness, sweating, palpitations, etc. reliably several hours after a big meal, the recommendations are obvious - eat smaller meals. --- . SLMR 2.1 . E-mail: jim.zisfein@factory.com (Jim Zisfein)
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From: mdennie@xerox.com (Matt Dennie) Subject: Re: Flashing anyone? Keywords: flashing Organization: Xerox In <1993Apr15.123539.2228@news.columbia.edu> rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Robert D Castro) writes: >Hello all, >On my bike I have hazard lights (both front and back turn signals >flash). Since I live in NJ and commute to NYC there are a number of >tolls one must pay on route. Just before arriving at a toll booth I >switch the hazards on. I do thisto warn other motorists that I will >be taking longer than the 2 1/2 seconds to make the transaction. >Taking gloves off, getting money out of coin changer/pocket, making >transaction, putting gloves back on takes a little more time than the >average cager takes to make the same transaction of paying the toll. >I also notice that when I do this cagers tend to get the message and >usually go to another booth. >My question, is this a good/bad thing to do? >Any others tend to do the same? >Just curious >o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> o&o> > Rob Castro | email - rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu | Live for today > 1983 KZ550LTD | phone - (212) 854-7617 | For today you live! > DoD# NYC-1 | New York, New York, USA | RC (tm) Beleive it or not: NY state once considered eliminating tolls for motor- cycles based simply on the fact that motos clog up toll booths. But then Mario realized the foolishness of trading a few hundred K $`s a year for some relief in traffic congestion. Too bad he won`t take that Sumpreme Court Justice job - I thought we might be rid of him forever. -- --Matt Dennie Internet: mmd.wbst207v@xerox.com Xerox Corporation, Rochester, NY (USA) "Reaching consensus in a group often is confused with finding the right answer." -- Norman Maier
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From: borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden) Subject: ABOLISH SELECTIVE SERVICE Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA, USA Lines: 12 The Selective Service Registration should be abolished. To start with, the draft is immoral. Whether you agree with that or not, we don't have one now, and military experts agree that the quality of the armed forces is superior with a volunteer army than with draftees. Finally, the government has us on many lists in many computers (the IRS, Social Security Admistration and Motor Vehicle Registries to name a few) and it can find us if it needs to. Maintaining yet another list of people is an utter waste of money and time. Let's axe this whole department, and reduce the deficit a little bit. - Dave Borden borden@m5.harvard.edu
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From: mje@pookie.pass.wayne.edu (Michael J. Edelman) Subject: Re: Saturn's Pricing Policy Organization: Wayne State University Lines: 21 Distribution: world Reply-To: mje@pookie.pass.wayne.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: pookie.pass.wayne.edu I just ordered a Saturn SL1 after considering a few imports. Frankly, the Saturn way of doing business and service was a *very* big plus. I hadn't bought a new car since I bought my Honda 4WD back in '85, and I was unbelieveably offended by most salespeople I met. Saturn was indeed very different. I made three different visits to the dealer where I bought my car, and was never pressured. Saturn also had the best after-sales support, and the fixed pricing made it *very* easy for me to decide exactly what I wanted to buy. Another big selling point was running into my mechanic at the dealer. He's been fixing imports for 20 years...and bought a Saturn, based on what he's seen and heard from his customers. Saturn also has a good extended warranty program; $675 for 6 year/60K miles, fully refunded if you don't use it. That works out to an actual cost of $170 or so, based on the 6 year treasury rates. Using savings account rates it's more like $120. In the first three years it also buys you free rental during any warranty work, without counting against the refund. --mike
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From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B) Subject: Re: Fractals? what good are they? Organization: Purdue University Lines: 17 In article <7208@pdxgate.UUCP> idr@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Ian D Romanick) writes: > They talked about another routine that could yield up to 150 to 1 > compress with no image loss that *I* could notice. The draw back is that it > takes a hell of a long time to compress something. I'll have to see if I can > find the book so that I can give more exact numbers. TTYL. That's a typical claim, though they say they've improved compression speed considerably. Did you find out anything else about the book? I'd be interested in looking at it if you could give me any pointers. Reportedly, early fractal compression times of 24-100 hours used that marvelous piece of hardware called "grad students" to do the work. Supposedly it's been automated since about 1988, but I'm still waiting to be impressed. Allen B (Sign me "Cynical")
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From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) Subject: Re: dogs Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View Lines: 35 In article <93Apr20.193958.30419@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes: }Sheesh, even a trained attack dog is no match for a human, }we have *all* the advantages. I agree with this 100%. After all, when you grab under his chin and are careful to keep your hands away from his twisting head, what is he going to do -- tailwag you to death? I even had one occasion where I was unexpectedly jumped by a 130 lb. German Shepherd and grabbed his upper jaw in one hand and his lower jaw in the other. Now I'm holding his mouth open (no way is he strong enough to clamp down) and he can do nothing. HOWEVER, all this macho shit aside, the fact is that when you are riding a bike and a dog is arrowing to intercept, it may be unwise for you to stop and try to deal with the dog, for the simple fact that it might be through your leathers and working on your jeans before you can dismount and deal with it properly. By all means, if you do kick the dog or otherwise get its attention, STOP and STAY there. If you kick the dog and ride away, that is a victory for the dog -- it drove you out of its territory. It is not even a qualified victory, it is a victory. If you kick it and STOP, and sit there, 99% of dogs will say, "Oh, shit! This guy's serious!" and back off. Now you have established your dominance over the dog, and it probably will not bother you again. Llamas, however, are a different story. If you stop near a llama, it will just hop on and insist on a ride. And that's if you're lucky; if it doesn't like you it'll barf you off the bike and steal it! -- Curtis Jackson cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com '91 Hawk GT '81 Maxim 650 DoD#0721 KotB '91 Black Lab mix "Studley Doright" '92 Collie/Golden "George" "There is no justification for taking away individuals' freedom in the guise of public safety." -- Thomas Jefferson
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From: jks2x@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jason K. Schechner) Subject: Re: Adlib sound board for sale! Organization: University of Virginia Lines: 23 In article <bitzm.133.0@columbia.dsu.edu> bitzm@columbia.dsu.edu (MICHAEL BITZ) writes: > > I have an Adlib sound board for sale. It includes > the original disks, and I'll throw in a Windows 3.1 > .WAV sound file driver. For those of you that are > using your PC Speaker for games, this will be a much > welcomed board for your PC! > > $70.00 includes shipping to your home or office. > > Email: bitzm@columbia.dsu.edu Considering that you can get a brand new Sounds Blaster (original) for around $80 I think this price is way too high. Then again, things are worth what someone is will to pay for them.... -Jason -- Settle down, raise a family join the PTA, buy some sensible shoes, and a Chevrolet And party 'till you're broke and they drag you away. It's ok. Al Yankovic
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From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) Subject: Re: Clipper chip -- technical details Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 20 In article <1667.Apr1821.58.3593@silverton.berkeley.edu>, djb@silverton.berkeley.edu (D. J. Bernstein) writes: > Short summary of what Bellovin says Hellman says the NSA says: There is > a global key G, plus one key U_C for each chip C. The user can choose a > new session key K_P for each phone call P he makes. Chip C knows three > keys: G, its own U_C, and the user's K_P. The government as a whole > knows G and every U_C. Apparently a message M is encrypted as > E_G(E_{U_C}(K_P),C) , E_{K_P}(M). That's it. > > The system as described here can't possibly work. What happens when > someone plugs the above ciphertext into a receiving chip? To get M > the receiving chip needs K_P; to get K_P the receiving chip needs U_C. > The only information it can work with is C. If U_C can be computed > from C then the system is cryptographically useless and the ``key > escrow'' is bullshit. Otherwise how is a message decrypted? Via K_P, of course. Nothing was said about where K_P comes from. It's the session key, though, and it's chosen however you usually choose session keys --- exponential key exchange, shared secret, RSA, etc. But however you choose it, the chip will apparently emit the escrow header when you do.
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From: Nigel@dataman.demon.co.uk (Nigel Ballard) Subject: Re: Sarchoidosis Distribution: world Organization: Infamy Inc. Reply-To: Nigel@dataman.demon.co.uk X-Newsreader: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.21) Lines: 34 >> Hello, >>Does anybody know if sarchoidosis is a mortem desease ? >>(i.e if someone who tooke this desease can be kill >>bye this one ?) > >People have died from sarcoid, but usually it is not >fatal and is treatable. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and >geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi there I'm suffering from Sarcoidosis at present. Although it's shown as a chronic & rare tissue disorder, it is thankfully NOT life threatening. The very worsed thing that can happen to a non-treated sufferer is glaucoma. My specialists are bombarding me with Prednisolone E.C. (a cortico-steriod) and after four months at 20mg a day, it's totally done away with my enlarged lymph glands, so somethings happening for the good! Cheers Nigel ************************************************************************ * NIGEL BALLARD | INT: nigel@dataman.demon.co.uk | MEXICAN FOOD * * BOURNEMOUTH | CIS: 100015.2644 RADIO-G1HOI | GUINNESS ON TAP * * UNITED KINGDOM | AMAZING! and all down two wires | TALL SKINNY WOMEN * ************************************************************************ Two penguins are walking along an iceberg. The first penguin turns to the second penguin and says "it looks like you are wearing a tuxedo." The second penguin turns to the first penguin and says, "maybe I am." ************************************************************************
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From: jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) Subject: Re: Ford Probe - Opinions? (centered around the GT) Nntp-Posting-Host: magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 21 In article <1993Apr20.124228.5357@ncsu.edu> chuck@eos.ncsu.edu (Chuck Kesler) writes: >>Rear hatch has no padding on corners when up. I'm waiting for the day when >>I bash my head on the corner. >>horn buttons behind air bag in spokes and not in center (personal preference) > >The latter is probably because of the air bag. It's pretty much takes up >all the space where you'd expect to find the horn. > All Toyotas have airbags with a real horn. Come on, how hard can it be to put a little pressure plate there. I hope Toyota doesn't follow everyone else and make the horns little buttons that I wouldn't want to fumble for. john -- John Nielsen MAGNUS Consultant ______ ______ __ __ "To you Baldrick, the Renaissance was just /\ __ \ /\ ___\ /\ \/\ \ something that happened to other people, \ \ \/\ \\ \___ \\ \ \_\ \ wasn't it?" - The Black Adder \ \_____\\/\_____\\ \_____\
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From: narain@ih-nxt09.cso.uiuc.edu (Nizam Arain) Subject: Floptical Question Article-I.D.: news.C519MM.M2L Reply-To: narain@uiuc.edu Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 17 Hi. I am looking into buying a Floptical Drive, and was wondering what experience people have with the drives from Iomega, PLI, MASS MicroSystems, or Procom. These seem to be the main drives on the market. Any advice? Also, I heard about some article in MacWorld (Sep '92, I think) about Flopticals. Could someone post a summary, if they have it? Thanks in advance. (Reply by post or email, whichever you prefer.) --Nizam -- / * \ Nizam Arain \ What makes the universe || || (217) 384-4671 / so hard to comprehend | \___/ | Internet: narain@uiuc.edu \ is that there is nothing \_____/ NeXTmail: narain@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu / to compare it with.
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From: dennisn@ecs.comm.mot.com (Dennis Newkirk) Subject: Space class for teachers near Chicago Organization: Motorola Distribution: usa Nntp-Posting-Host: 145.1.146.43 Lines: 59 I am posting this for a friend without internet access. Please inquire to the phone number and address listed. --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Space: Teaching's Newest Frontier" Sponsored by the Planetary Studies Foundation The Planetary Studies Foundation is sponsoring a one week class for teachers called "Space: Teaching's Newest Frontier." The class will be held at the Sheraton Suites in Elk Grove, Illinois from June 14 through June 18. Participants who complete the program can earn two semester hours of graduate credit from Aurora College. Please note that while the class is intended for teachers, it is not restricted to teachers. The class, which is being cosponsored by the United States Space Foundation, will teach how to use space exploration as a teaching tool to get students excited about learning and interested in science. Classroom topics to be covered by the class include: > Living in Space > The Space Shuttle > The Space Station > NASA Spinoffs that Benefit Society > Principles of Astrodynamics/Aeronautics > The Solar System There will also be simulated Zero-G training in an underwater space station simulation, model rocket launches, observing sessions at the Harper College Observatory, and field trips to the Adler Planetarium and the Museum of Science and Industry. Featured speakers include Jerry Brown of the Colorado based United States Space Foundation and Debbie Brown of the NASA Lewis Research Center in Cleveland, Ohio. Additional instructors will be provided by the Planetary Studies Foundation. The social highlight of the class will be a dinner banquet featuring Space Shuttle Payload Specialist Byron Lichtenberg, currently President of Payload Systems, Inc. Lichtenberg was a member of the crew of STS-9 which flew in November 1983. The banquet is scheduled for Thursday, June 17. The registration fee includes transportation for field trips, materials, continental breakfasts, lunches, and the special dinner banquet. Guest tickets for the dinner banquet are also available. There is an additional charge to receive the two hours of graduate credit. For any additional information about the class, contact the Science Learning Center at (708) 359-7913. Or write to: Planetary Studies Foundation 1520 W. Algonquin Rd. Palatine, IL 60067 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dennis Newkirk (dennisn@ecs.comm.mot.com) Motorola, Land Mobile Products Sector Schaumburg, IL
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From: bss2p@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Brent S. Stone) Subject: Wanted: Advice for New Cylist (Ditto) Organization: University of Virginia Lines: 21 In article <C5r7Ey.7Mq@srgenprp.sr.hp.com> blaisec@sr.hp.com (Blaise Cirelli) writes: > I'm thinking about becoming a bike owner this year w/o any bike experience thus far. I figure that getting a decent used bike for under $1K the thing would pay for itself while I'm at grad school (car permits are $$$ where I'm going and who want's to ride a bus). I'm looking for advice on a first bike - best models/years. I'm NOT looking for an old loud roaring thing that sounds like a monster. The quit whirring of newer engines is more to my liking. Apprec any advice. Thanks, BS
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From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) Subject: Re: Countersteering_FAQ please post Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC Lines: 26 Distribution: world Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com In article L2A@well.sf.ca.us, pstone@well.sf.ca.us (Philip K. Stone) writes: > >Hey Ed, how do you explain the fact that you pull on a horse's reins >left to go left? :-) Or am I confusing two threads here? Three, actually. I believe I discussed countersteering a horse before. Basically, there are two ways to steer a horse, plow-rein and neck-rein. Plow-reining steers him by keeping the reins separate, and you pull in the direction you wish to go. Neck-reining steers a horse by holding the reins together in one hand, and pulling against the horse's neck in the direction you wish to go. When training a plow-steering horse to neck-rein, one technique is to cross the reins under his necks. Thus, when neck-reining to the left, the right rein pulls against the right side of the neck, but the left side of the bit (which the horse is used to from his plow-reining days). Are you sorry you asked yet? --- Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker, Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM |and I showed him a picture of you. I said, DoD #0111 (919)460-8302 |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!" (The Grateful Dead) --> |It seemed like the least I could do...
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From: fosterr@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Raymond W. Foster) Subject: Re: Windows Speaker Sound Driver Nntp-Posting-Host: nickel.ucs.indiana.edu Organization: Indiana University Lines: 14 In article <C5rEq8.Eq2@unix.portal.com> claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese) writes: >In article <1993Apr19.235430.6097@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> alee@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu (Alec Lee) writes: >>Is there an ftp site where I can get the MS speaker sound driver? There's >>a "sound.exe" file that claims to be the driver but I'm suspicious since >>it's not a .drv file. > >Thats the file... >-- To clarify a little more: SOUND.EXE is a self-expanding archive which contains the driver (which is actually called SPEAKER.DRV, I think). Ray
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From: brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) Subject: Re: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp. Distribution: na Lines: 37 The stragegy of the government is interesting. The real fear comes from them doing more than this. This is a voluntary program, and thus harder for us to object to on the surface. Their strategy is a business one rather than legal one. They are pushing to get a standard in place, a secret standard, and if they get it as a standard then they will drive competitors out of the market. It will be legal to sell better, untapable encryption that doesn't have registered keys, but it will be difficult, and thus not a plan for most phone companies. You see, with clipper chip phones you'll be able to talk to any cellular company, or other phones or ports because they will follow the standard. AT&T has already announced a clipper chip encryption product. The government has marketed hard to get major vendors to use these chips. If they get enough market share, they will rule. And thus there will be very little market for systems that can't be tapped by the police. The public isn't that concerned about it now, after all. They freely do calls that anybody with an old TV can listen to today! They won't pay big extra bucks for proprietary phones that secure them only from the police. Well, some people will buy these phones, but they will only work with other proprietary phones, so the market will be small and the phones expensive. Unless they are made in numbers large enough to sell them cheap, only the Mob will buy them. And this means that the FBI will want to track the customer lists of better encryption phones, because "the only reason a person would want one is to evade the police." Interesting. -- Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Subject: Re: Update (Help!) [was "What is This [Is it Lyme's?]"] Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science Lines: 30 In article <1993Apr7.221357.12533@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> brenner@ldgo.columbia.edu (carl brenner) writes: >> see the ulterior motive here. It is easy for me to see it the >> those physicians who call everything lyme and treat everything. >> There is a lot of money involved. > > You keep bringing this up. But I don't understand what's in it >financially for the physician to go ahead and treat. Unless the physician >has an investment in (or is involved in some kickback scheme with) the >home infusion company, where is the financial gain for the doctor? Well, let me put it this way, based on my own experience. A general practitioner with no training in infectious diseases, by establishing links to the "Lyme community", treating patients who come to him wondering about lyme or having decided they have lyme as if they did, saying that diseases such as MS are probably spirochetal, if not Lyme, giving talks at meetings of users groups, validating the feelings of even delusional patients, etc. This GP can go from being a run-of-the-mill $100K/yr GP to someone with lots of patients in the hospital and getting expensive infusions that need monitoring in his office, and making lots of bread. Also getting the adulation of many who believe his is their only hope (if not of cure, then of control) and seeing his name in publications put out by support groups, etc. This is a definite temptation. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: ayr1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Amir Y Rosenblatt) Subject: Re: was:Go Hezbollah! Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixa.cc.columbia.edu Reply-To: ayr1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Amir Y Rosenblatt) Organization: Columbia University Lines: 28 In article <1993Apr16.130037.18830@ncsu.edu> hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu (Brad Hernlem) writes: > >In article <2BCE0918.6105@news.service.uci.edu>, tclock@orion.oac.uci.edu (Tim Clock) writes: >| >|> In article <Apr15.175334.72079@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> bh437292@lance.colostate.edu writes: >|> > >Tim, you are ignoring the fact that the Palestinians in Lebanon have been >disarmed. Hezbollah remains the only independent militia. Hezbollah does >not attack Israel except at a few times such as when the IDF burned up >Sheikh Mosavi, his wife, and young son. Of course, if Israel would withdraw >from Lebanon and stop assassinating people and shelling villages they wouldn't >make the Lebanese so mad as to do that. Furthermore, with Hezbollah >subsequently disarmed, it would not be possible. Just to address this one point, what about the two Katyusha rocket attacks made within Lebanon, for which Fatah claimed responsibility. I didn't realize that one can use Katyushas while onr is disarmed. Also, Page 8 of today's New York Times, Faisal Saleh, a high ranking Fatah official, and his 9 month old son were gunned down in Beirut by members of Abu Nidal. There have been 46 assasination attempts in 1993 alone in the fued between these two factions, resulting in 11 deaths. Amir
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From: ab961@Freenet.carleton.ca (Robert Allison) Subject: Bursitis and laser treatment Reply-To: ab961@Freenet.carleton.ca (Robert Allison) Organization: The National Capital Freenet Lines: 20 My family doctor and the physiotherapist (PT) she sent me to agree that the pain in my left shoulder is bursitis. I have an appointment with an orthpod (I love that, it's short for 'orthopedic surgeon, apparently) but while I'm waiting the PT is treating me. She's using hot packs, ultrasound, and lasers, but there's no improvement yet. In fact, I almost suspect it's getting worse. My real question is about the laser treatment. I can't easily imagine what the physical effect that could have on a deep tissue problem. Can anyone shed some light (so to speak) on the matter? -- Robert Allison Ottawa, Ontario CANADA
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Subject: Re: "Brain abscess" definition needed Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science Lines: 16 In article <1993Apr8.123213.1@tardis.mdcorp.ksc.nasa.gov> fresa@tardis.mdcorp.ksc.nasa.gov writes: >Could someone please define a "brain abscess" for me? A relative has one near >his cerebellum. A brain abscess is an infection deep in the brain substance. It is hard to cure with antibiotics, since it gets walled off, and usually, it needs surgical drainage. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: ma90jjw%isis@ajax.rsre.mod.uk (Justin Whitton) Subject: Re: Canon BJ200 (BubbleJet) and HP DeskJet 500... In-Reply-To: edmoore@vcd.hp.com's message of Sat, 24 Apr 1993 22: 31:30 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: hayle Organization: DRA Malvern, Worcs., UK Lines: 24 In article <C60EKI.Kvp@vcd.hp.com> edmoore@vcd.hp.com (Ed Moore) writes: thomas.d.fellrath.1@nd.edu@nd.edu wrote: : The key issue that I bought my BJ-200 on was ink drying speed. You really : have to try awful hard to get the BJ-200 ink to smear. The HP DeskJets need : 10-15 seconds to completely dry. In both cases, however, do not get your : pages wet. Unlike laser printers, the material on your pages is INK, not : toner. But that should go without saying. I think the ink now used in the DeskJet family is water-fast. I've had pictures ruined by a few drops of rain. These were colour pictures from a DeskJet 500C. Mind you, it could have been acid rain:-) I use a BJ10ex. Ink dries fast, but it really doesn't like getting wet. -- /-----------------------------------------------------------------------------\ |Justin Whitton at ma90jjw%hermes@uk.mod.relay |Where no man has gone before..| |after August mail ma90jjw@brunel.ac.uk. \------------------------------| |Disclaimer: My opinions count for nothing, except when the office is empty. | |I'm a student => intelligence = 0. | \-----------------------------------------------------------------------------/
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From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw) Subject: Re: Tieing Abortion to Health Reform -- Is Clinton Nuts? Organization: Corporation for Open Systems Distribution: world Lines: 37 In <1993Apr5.170349.10700@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes: >In article <1993Apr2.230831.18332@wdl.loral.com> bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com writes: >>sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes: >># sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes: >># >We already kill people (death penalty), and that costs even more >># >money, so you could as well complain about this extremely barbaric >># >way of justice. >># >># But the death penalty is right. >># >># And how expensive can an execution be? I mean, I think rope, cyanide >># (for the gas), or the rifles and ammunition to arm firing squads are >># affordable. >># >># Now, perhaps lethal injection might be expensive, in that case, let's >># return to the more efficient methods employed in the past. >> >>Oh, sure, the death *penalty* is fairly inexpensive, but the trial and >>sentencing can run millions. >> >>--strychnine unless you wanna cut costs by skipping the trial and >> sentencing... you murderous little rat-bastard > Why as a matter of fact, I was thinking of that as a way to make >the system more efficient. And the only murderous rat-bastards are >aboritionists. Yeah, Simon's no rat-bastard, he's the Head Attack Puppy :-) >Simon TOG
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From: tp892275@vine.canberra.edu.au (C. Mierzanowski) Subject: Which Video Card? (Please HELP) Organization: Info Sci & Eng, University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA Lines: 13 I've got a 386 20Hz computer which is under warranty and my Trident 8900C video card is starting to play-up (surprise, surprise). Therefore I'm going to try to exchange it for a better card. The BIG Question is: Which video card is high quality and with an acceptable price tag (on student budget) ??? Thank you in advance.
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Subject: Looking for replacement for a JVC-disk From: michael@pcmith.rks.se (Michael Thurbin) Organization: Sommarvagen 1, S-352 37 Vaxjoe, SWEDEN Lines: 22 Hi! I got hold of an old Zenith 286 Laptop with model# ZWL-183-45 The hard-disk is dead but the rest seems to work. I took the Zenith apart and found a very strange disk for wich I now try to replace. The disk is marked JVC, model JD3824R00-1. Has anyone any specs. on this disk or suggestion where i can find it or a cheap replacement for it. Thanks for your help. -- Michael Michael Thurbin (michael@pcmith.rks.se) -- ************************************************************************************************** Michael Thurbin Sommarvagen 1 Phone: +46 (0)47021340 S-352 37 Vaxjoe Fax: +46 (0)47048978 SWEDEN **************************************************************************************************
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Subject: Re: Eugenics Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science Lines: 15 Probably within 50 years, a new type of eugenics will be possible. Maybe even sooner. We are now mapping the human genome. We will then start to work on manipulation of that genome. Using genetic engineering, we will be able to insert whatever genes we want. No breeding, no "hybrids", etc. The ethical question is, should we do this? Should we make a race of disease-free, long-lived, Arnold Schwartzenegger-muscled, supermen? Even if we can. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: galvint@cs.nps.navy.mil (thomas galvin) Subject: Re: Schedule... Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA Lines: 41 In article <121411@netnews.upenn.edu> kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Keith Keller) writes: >In article <1qup1lINNotb@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> swartzjh@RoseVC.Rose-Hulman.Edu writes: >>Does anyone have the games ESPN will be airing this week??? Hopefully the >>Detroit/Toronto game tongiht. I though ABC did a decent job by getting some > >F**king *NO* hockey games televised nationally tonight! What the hell is >this??? Why the hell is ESPN showing some stupid baseball game, when >baseball is not even three weeks into the season and hockey is in the >playoffs??? No, wait, I know the answer: $$$$$$ But still! It really >pisses me off to no end. They better start putting some more f*cking >games on, or they will never make any money off of the deal that brought >hockey back to ESPN. AARGH!!!! (not that I'd watch anyway, but hockey >needs all the publicity it can get) > >-- > Keith Keller LET'S GO RANGERS!!!!! > LET'S GO QUAKERS!!!!! > kkeller@mail.sas.upenn.edu IVY LEAGUE CHAMPS!!!! > > "A cow is not a vegetarian dish." -- Keith Keller, 1993 You obviously don't understand how TV scheduling works. ESPN had prior contracts to baseball to show Monday night games and had contracted all the other bs shows well in advance. The NHL TV deal was very late in the scheduling process (you normally have to do this one-plus year out. The NHL package was finished two weeks before the season started). ESPN has shown tremendous commitment to the NHL by squeezing in extra telecasts when it could (like the last Minnesota game) and putting Stanley Cup games as backup to their baseball telecasts (which by favorable circumstances they could pull off last night). But the bottom line is that ESPN cannot break contracts at will. They must honor the previous deals they made. $$$$ _does_ have something to do with it, especially if you risk a $$$$$$$$ lawsuit for breach of contract with baseball. So relax. I'm happy. (I don't get SportsChannel anyway). -Tom Galvin galvint@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
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From: b711zbr@utarlg.uta.edu (JUNYAN WANG) Subject: Bible contradictions News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41 Nntp-Posting-Host: utarlg.uta.edu Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington Lines: 2 I would like a list of Bible contadictions from those of you who dispite being free from Christianity are well versed in the Bible.
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From: rmohns@vax.clarku.edu Subject: RE: page setup in Notepad Organization: Clark University Lines: 29 In a previous article, JOEL@jach.hawaii.edu (Joel Aycock) wrote: > > I struggled with the margin problem for ages as well, until I >finally got hold of the shareware binary editor BEAV133, and dug into >NOTEPAD.EXE (there is no SETUP facility to force NOTEPAD to default to >0.0 margins- it's hardwired into code!!!). > > Do a SEARCH for ".75", then change the offending bytes to ".00", >et viola. Who are the guys who hardcode these "options" anyway? > > I'm interested in whether the problem only rears it's ugly head for >certain printers- I'm using an old Epson LX-800 (or is that EX-800? never can >remember). > >aloha. You are nto alone. I get the same problems with my Panasonic kpx 1124i (24 pin). Oterhwise, it's a great printer. I just can't find a driver for it, only for the non-"i" version. Anyone seen it? Rob |------------------------------------------------------------| \ rmohns@vax.clarku.edu / _________\ /________ \ Rob Mohns / ================================================== Annoy Rush Limbaugh. Think for yourself. ==================================================
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From: whit@carson.u.washington.edu (John Whitmore) Subject: Re: Wire wrap questions (again?) Article-I.D.: shelley.1pr803INNh8e Organization: University of Washington, Seattle Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu In article <PASCAL.93Apr1160623@ap10.apd.cpg.sony.co.jp> pascal@apd.cpg.sony.co.jp (Pascal Goguey) writes: >In article <7376@blue.cis.pitt.edu> macfitz+@pitt.edu (Mark D Fitzsimmos) writes: > *After a considerable amount of research, review of discussions > *on this group, and mainly fruitless time on breadboards, I have > *decided that the path of least resistance for prototyping my (not > *necessarily someone else's) electronic designs is wire wrapping. > I have no idea about what you want to do, but be careful : >Wire wrapping increases a lot the wiring capacitance. That shouldn't >be a problem for "slow" applications (i.e a few MHz), but as for >quicker ones (around 30 / 40 MHz), I doubt that it can work. Fortunately, wire-wrapping is a better wiring technique than most at high frequencies; Cray computers (up to the X-MP, at least) all had wirewrapped backplanes. Wirewrap gets into trouble at much higher frequencies than any TTL can handle. The 'increase' of wiring capacitance is not really relevant (you have to use transmission line techniques, and the capacitance is no problem). > *1) Where can I get a decent wrapping tool? I'd like to spend less > *than $150 for an AC powered unit including bit and sleeve. > Hand powered is the best. There are good AC powered ones, >but rather expensive. A low-cost one doesn't work very well. Hand-powered is a terrible choice (IMHO) unless you are a field maintenance person who will do maybe a dozen connections at a time. Your hands will cramp. Battery-powered wire-wrap guns are available in the $150 range, and so are the little twiddle-stick manual types ($15). For a modest project, of a couple hundred connections, I'd prefer to borrow a professional AC unit... or a pneumatic one. John Whitmore
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From: dannyb@panix.com (Daniel Burstein) Subject: Re: What do Nuclear Site's Cooling Towers do? Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC Lines: 27 <lots of pretty good stuff about how the huge towers near most nuclear power plants are there to cool the used steam back into near ambient temperature water deleted> >>water. As I recall the water isn't as hot (thermodynamically) in many >>fossil fuel plants, and of course there is less danger of radioactive >>contamination. > Actually, fossil fuel plants run hotter than the usual >boiling-water reactor nuclear plants. (There's a gripe in the industry >that nuclear power uses 1900 vintage steam technology). So it's >more important in nuclear plants to get the cold end of the system >as cold as possible. Hence big cooling towers. as a point of info, some of the early nuclear power plants in this country used the fission pile as a first stage to get the water hot, and then had a second stage -fossil fuel- step to get the water (actually steam) VERY HOT. I remember seeing this at Con Edison's Indian Point #1 power plant, which is about 30 miles north of NYC, and built more or less 1958. dannyb@panix.com (all the usual disclaimers apply, whatever they may be)
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From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) Subject: Re: Great Post! (was Re: Candida (yeast) Bloom...) (VERY LONG) Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Lines: 38 In article turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) writes: >I hope Gordon Banks did not mean to imply that notions such as >hard-to-see candida infections causing various problems should not >be investigated. Many researchers have made breakthroughs by >figuring out how to investigate things that were previously thought >"virtually impossible to test for." > >Indeed, I would be surprised if "candida overbloom" were such a >phenomena. I would think that candida would produce signature >byproducts whose measure would then set a lower bound on the >extent of recent infection. I realize this might get quite >tricky and difficult, probably expensive, and likely inconvenient >or uncomfortable to the subjects, but that is not the same as >"virtually impossible." I recall reading in the recently revised edition of the "Yeast Connection" that there is indeed work by researchers to do this. Of course, they are working on the theory that candida overbloom with penetration into mucus membrane tissue with associated "mild" inflammatory response can and does occur in a large number of people. If you reject this "yeast hypothesis", then I'd guess you'd view this research as one more wasteful and quixotic endeavor. Stay tuned. Jon Noring -- Charter Member --->>> INFJ Club. If you're dying to know what INFJ means, be brave, e-mail me, I'll send info. ============================================================================= | Jon Noring | noring@netcom.com | | | JKN International | IP : 192.100.81.100 | FRED'S GOURMET CHOCOLATE | | 1312 Carlton Place | Phone : (510) 294-8153 | CHIPS - World's Best! | | Livermore, CA 94550 | V-Mail: (510) 417-4101 | | ============================================================================= Who are you? Read alt.psychology.personality! That's where the action is.
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From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) Subject: Re: Davidians and compassion Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau Lines: 24 In article <C5sLAs.B68@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) wrote: > > In article <sandvik-190493200420@sandvik-kent.apple.com> sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes: > >So we have this highly Christian religious order that put fire > >on their house, killing most of the people inside. > > We have no way to know that the cultists burned the house; it could have been > the BATF and FBI. We only have the government's word for it, after all, and > people who started it by a no-knock search with concussion grenades are hardly > disinterested observers. There's another point to be made. Those who have been inside burning houses know that if they want to stay alive, it's better to run out from the building. We had one case where an FBI agent *had to drag out a women* from the burning house, she run back in when she saw the forces arriving. It is a good indication of the fanatical mind that the followers had -- including having they children burned instead of saving these innocent victims of the instance. Cheers, Kent --- sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
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From: mart@csri.toronto.edu (Mart Molle) Subject: Re: Changing oil by self. Distribution: mxmsd Lines: 26 bobml@mxmsd.msd.measurex.com (Bob LaGesse) writes: [Long silly discussion deleted...] > And while you're at it, why bother with removing >the drain plug when you could remove the dipstick instead and suck it out from >there with your mouth and then spit it out? This suggestion isn't as far-fetched as it sounds. Years ago in another time and place, I used to do oil changes in boats powered by automotive engines. In many cases, there was no way to get any sort of a tray under the oil pan because it was boxed in by the bottom of the hull and various floation chambers on each side. And if you *did* get something there, you'd spill all the oil out of it for sure trying to get it back out again. So we used a small pump powered by an electric drill to suck the oil out the dipstick hole. There was a long/thin hose on the inlet side designed to fit down the dipstick tube, and another, thicker/shorter hose on the outlet side that you put into any convenient container. I'm sure these gadgets are still available from marine hardware suppliers if you want one. Mart L. Molle Computer Systems Research Institute University of Toronto Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4 (416)978-4928
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From: weaver@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Dave Weaver) Subject: Help Lines: 44 In a prior article, lmvec@westminster.ac.uk (William Hargreaves) writes: > > Now I am of the opinion that you a saved through faith alone (not what you do) > as taught in Romans, but how can I square up in my mind the teachings of James > in conjunction with the lukewarm Christian being 'spat-out' If you agree that good works have a role somewhere, you will generally find yourself in one of two camps: (1) Faith + Works --> Salvation or (2) Faith --> Salvation + Works Either (1) works are required for salvation, or (2) faith will inevitably result in good works. I am also of the opinion that salvation is by faith alone, based on Ephesians 2 and Romans 3:21-31. I also conclude that James 2, when read in context, is teaching bullet (2) above. When James speaks of justification, I would claim that he is not speaking of God declaring the believing sinner innocent in His sight (Paul's use of the word). Instead he is speaking of the sinner's profession of faith being "justified" or "proven" by the display of good works. Also according to James 2, the abscence of such works is evidence for a "dead" or "useless" faith which fails to save. James 2 is not a problem for the doctrine of salvation by faith if it is teaching (2). Works would have their place, not as merit toward salvation, but as evidence of true faith. Regards, --- Dave Weaver | "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to weaver@chdasic.sps.mot.com| gain what he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot (1949) [There are of course a number of other possibilities. The Reformers believed salvation --> faith --> works Some of us suspect that the three things are tied up together in such a way that no diagram of this form can do it justice. --clh]
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From: ernie@.cray.com (Ernest Smith) Subject: RE Aftermarket A/C units Originator: ernie@ferris Lines: 34 Nntp-Posting-Host: ferris.cray.com Organization: Cray Research, Inc. Distribution: usa >In article <1qcaueINNmt8@axon.cs.unc.edu> Andrew Brandt writes: >|> I looked into getting a/c installed on my 1987 Honda CRX Si. >|> The unit is $875 plus shipping, installation is like 5 1/2 hours on >|> top of that. This is a hunk of change. >|> >|> Does anyone know *any* place that does aftermarket a/c installation >|> (not with a Honda a/c unit, but some third party unit). >|> >|> I cannot seem to find anyone who can put a third party a/c unit in a >|> Honda. I am in No Carolina, so I would prefer some place nearby, but >|> any references would be handy. >|> >|> Thx, Andy (brandt@cs.unc.edu) > Les Bartel's comments: >>>Sorry I can't help you with your question, but I do have a comment to >make concerning aftermarket A/C units. I have a Frost-King or Frost-Temp >(forget which) aftermarket unit on my Cavalier, and am quite unhappy with >it. The fan is noisy, and doesn't put out much air. I will never have >an aftermarket A/C installed in any of my vehicles again. I just can't >trust the quality and performance after this experience. >> > - les > >-- >Les Bartel I'm going to live forever Let me add my .02 in. I had a A/C installed by the Ford garage and it did not work as well as the A/C that was installed by the factory in pickups identical to mine. I have talked to other people that have had the same result. Don't know if this is just a probable with Ford or what?? Ernie Smith
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From: jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jason Hanson) Subject: Re: NHL team in Milwaukee Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey Subject: Re: NHL team in Milwaukee Summary: Expires: Sender: Distribution: Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS Keywords: In article <1993Apr16.131843.24012@walter.cray.com> cbetz@radioman.cray.com (Charles Betz {x66442 CF/ENG}) writes: > >Bradley Center in Milwaukee is home to the Milwaukee Admirals minor leauge >hockey team. The owner of the Admirals (sorry, I can't remember his name) >either owns or at least shelled out the majority of the funds to build the >Bradley Center. Lloyd Pettit married into Allen-Bradley Corp. (ab.com) family and owns the Admirals. He donated the Bradley Center and the new Pettit National Ice Center. >Supposedly he was approached by the NHL about an expansion franchise, but >turned it down because he thought the franchise fee of $50 million was too >high. This is not the way I have heard it. See, Lloyd (as he is affectionately referred to by Milwaukeeans and Bob Uecker) bought the Bradley Center *TO* get the NHL to come here. >Like I said, I don't know whether this story is true or just a rumor, but if >it's true, don't look for an NHL team in Milwaukee anytime soon. The Admirals >aren't going to be forced out of the building and you won't see an NHL club >and a minor league club in the same building, especially since the NBA's >Milwaukee Bucks play there as well. Yeah, the Bucks, the Milwaukee Wave (soccer), the Admirals, the Marquette Warriors, concerts and a bunch of other things... -- Jason Hanson | 915 W. Wisconsin Ave #1010 | (414) 288-2179 Marquette University | Milwaukee, WI 53233-2373 | Ham Radio: N9LEA/AE -- jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu ==+== n9lea@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na --
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From: halsall@murray.fordham.edu (Paul Halsall) Subject: Weirdness of Early Christians Reply-To: halsall@murray.fordham.edu Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site Lines: 76 I am a good Catholic boy. A convert no less, attracted by the rational tradition [Aquinas et al] and the emotional authenticity [in comp. with the faddishness of Anglicanism] to Roman Catholicism. I never had much time for the pope - or any other heirarchs - but I did, and do, believe in the sacremental system. I always felt quite happy to look down my nose at those such as John Emery [a few posts back] who had to engage in circuitous textual arguments to prove their faith, entirely oblivious to the fact that a dozen other faiths can do the same [with miracles too], and that since their arguments depend on the belief in the Bible as God's sole revelation, it was not very good logic to argue that the Bible proved God. No, I was happy to accept the CHURCH as God's revelation. It was the Church after all that existed before the Bible, the Church that choose [under grace of course] the canon of scripture. Protestant ludicrosity, I thought, was shown by Protestants breathtaking acceptance of Luther's right to reject a dozen or so books he disliked. But recently I read Peter Brown's _Body and Society_. It is very well researched, and well written. But is raises some very upsetting questions. The early Christians were weird - even more so than today's carzy fundies. They had odd views on sex, odder views on the body, totally ludicrous views about demons, and distinctly uncharitable views about other human beings. now the question is this: were the first Christians just as weird, but we've got used to them, or did the pristine "Fall of the Church" happen within one generation. It certainly did'nt have to wait until the Triumph of the Church under Constantine. If so, wha does this say about God's promise to always support the Church. It's no use throwing the usual Protestant pieties about the Church not being an organization at me. It's a community or it is nothing, and it was the early communities that were weird. The institional church was a model of sanity by comparison. I would be interested in serious Catholic and Orthodox responses to this entirely serious issue. I'm not sure it is an issue for Protestants with their "soul alone with Jesus" approach, but for we who see the "ecclesia" as a "koinoia" over time and space, the weird early Christians are a problem. [This is an exaggeration of the Protestant view. Many Protestants have a strong appreciation for the role of the Church. "The soul alone with God" is certainly important for Protestants, but it's by no means the whole story. I have read the sort of history you talk about. As you point out, Protestants don't have quite the same problem you do, because we believe that the church had a Fall at some point. However Protestant mythology typically places the Fall around the time of Constantine (or more likely, regard it as happening in a sort of cumulative fashion, starting from Constantine but getting worse as the Pope accumulated power during the medieval period.) The consequences of having it earlier are somewhat worrisome even to us. Most Protestants accept the theological results of the early ecumenical councils, including such items as the Trinity and Incarnation. Indeed in the works of Reformers such as Luther and Calvin, you'll find Church Fathers such as Augustine quoted all the time. I think you'll find many Protestants resistant to the idea that the Early Church as a whole was "wierd". (There is an additional problem for Protestants that I don't much want to talk about in this context, since it's been looked at recently -- that's the question of whether one can really think of Augustine and other Fathers as being proto-Protestants. Their views on Mary, the authority of the Pope, etc, are not entirely congenial to Protestant thought.) One thing that somewhat worries me is a question of methodology. There are certainly plenty of wierd people in the early church. What concerns me is that they may be overrepresented in what we see. We see every Christian who courted martyrdom. But I think there's good reason to believe that most ordinary Christians were more prudent than that. We see the heroic virgins. But I think there's good reason to think that many Christians were happily married. I can't help suspecting that the early church had the same range of wierdos and sane people that we do now. I think there's also a certain level of "revisionism" active in history at the moment. I don't mean that they're manufacturing things out of whole cloth. But don't you think there might be a tendency to emphasize the novel? --clh]
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From: jburrill@boi.hp.com (Jim Burrill) Subject: Re: Disillusioned Protestant Finds Christ Organization: Idaho River Country, The Salmon, Payette, Clearwater, Boise, Selway, Priest. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6] Lines: 31 John W. Redelfs (cj195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote: : : I am a Mormon. I believe in Christ, that he is alive. He raised himself : [Text deleted] : : I learned that the concept of the Holy Trinity was never taught by Jesus : Christ, that it was "agreed to" by a council of clergymen long after Christ : was ascended, men who had no authority to speak for him. : If Jesus never taught the concept of the Trinity, how do you deal with the following: Mat 28 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Mat 28 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in¹ the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Mat 28 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Also Jesus speaking: Act 1 5 For John baptized with¹ water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit." I believe that you may have overlooked some key verses, that are crucial to the Christian faith. Jim Burrill jburrill@boi.hp.com
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From: friedenb@silver.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg) Subject: Jewish Committee on the Middle East (JCOME) Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University Lines: 34 Distribution: world Reply-To: friedenb@silver.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: silver.egr.msu.edu I flipped on my local Cable Access Channel (a channel where any community member can broadcast whatever they want for about $50 per half hour) and saw a "documentary" (I use this term loosely) on the conflict in the West Bank. It was apparently made with a hand held camcorder (the quality was terrible, and the camera was really jumpy). The documentary (sic) told the tales of all of the children who died in the "war" against the Jews as martyrs. It was a regular sob story. One "victimized youth" was recounting on how all he "really" wants to do is to get an education and that the big bad Jews won't let him go to high school. He admittedly spent 4 years in prison (age 13 to 17) for murdering a Jewish woman but claims that it was "for the cause." I have seen this kind of garbage before. I have a lot of sympathy for the Palestinian cause (as do many Jews), but I think that even many Arabs would be ashamed to call this a documentary! The most suprising part is that the only credits shown at the end was an address for the makers of the film named JEWISH COMM. ON THE MIDDLE EAST. Anybody heard of them? They make Peace Now look like right-wingers. Gedaliah Friedenberg -=-Department of Mechanical Engineering -=-Department of Metallurgy, Mechanics and Materials Science -=-Michigan State University
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From: steveo@world.std.com (Steven W Orr) Subject: Need to find information about current trends in diabetes. Organization: SysLang, Inc. Lines: 15 I looked for diab in my .newsrc and came up with nuthin. Anyone have any good sources for where I can read? In particular, I'm interested in finding out more about intravenous insulin injection for hepatic vein liver activation. (Whew! Wotta mouthful!) Anything that smells like a pointer would be helpful: newsgroup, mailinglist, etc.... Many thanks. -- ----------Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like bananas.------------------ Steven W. Orr steveo@world.std.com uunet!world!steveo ----------Everybody repeat after me: "We are all individuals."-----------------
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From: lasse@mits.mdata.fi (Lasse Reinikainen) Subject: Re: WANTED: Multi-page GIF!! Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland Nntp-Posting-Host: mits.mdata.fi Lines: 16 In article <1993Apr20.053250.24854@worak.kaist.ac.kr> stjohn@math1.kaist.ac.kr (Ryou Seong Joon) writes: >Hi!... > >I am searching for packages that could handle Multi-page GIF >files... If you are looking for viewer try VPIC60 __________________ __ \_________________|)____.---'--`---.____ || \----.________.----/ || / / `--' lasse@mits.mdata.fi __||____/ /_ |___ \ `--------'
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From: chen@citr.uq.oz.au (G. Chen) Subject: Help on bitmaps Summary: Bitmap size Keywords: Bitmap, windows 3.1, SDK Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland Lines: 18 I wonder if anyone can tell me whether or not I can create a bitmap of any size? I followed the bitmap creation example in SDK manual and specified a 24x24 bitmap (set the width/height to 24) and supplied a byte string with 72 chars. But I just cannot get the right bitmap image. I changed the width/height to 32x32 and used the same value string (padded with zero byets to make up to the right size) and got the image. The example in the manual is 64x32 size, which are multiple of 2 bytes. Can you define a bitmap image of any size? Thanks very much. G Chen chen@citr.uq.oz.au -- G. Chen, Centre for Information Technology Research, University of Queensland, Australia 4072 chen@citr.uq.oz.au Tel: +61 7 365 4325, Fax +61 7 365 4399
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From: jartsu@hut.fi (Jartsu) Subject: Good Hard-Disk driver for non-Apple drives? (Sys 7.1 compat.) Nntp-Posting-Host: lk-hp-20.hut.fi Reply-To: jartsu@vipunen.hut.fi Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland Lines: 14 Hi there! What is your recommendation for a good hard-disk driver software for non-Apple drives? I would mainly need it for a SyQuest removable media drive, but maybe for some normal drives too. I have heard and seen good things about SilverLining, but don't know any competitors. It does not need to be fancy, filled with features... I more like it affordable. Thanks -- Jartsu
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From: uri@watson.ibm.com (Uri Blumenthal) Subject: Re: Key Registering Bodies Distribution: usa Reply-To: uri@watson.ibm.com Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM. Nntp-Posting-Host: kingbee.watson.ibm.com Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Lines: 18 In article <930419182442.669507@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL>, Grant@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL (Lynn R Grant) writes: |> If we do not trust the NSA to be a registrar of Clipper Chip key halves, |> I would not trust Mitre either. I wouldn't trust Mitre for another reason: remember "The Cuckoo's Egg"? How great was their security, eh? NSA - well, with the list of known "turncoats", does it make you wonder how many more unknown still are there? (:-) (:-( -- Regards, Uri. uri@watson.ibm.com scifi!angmar!uri ------------ <Disclaimer>
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From: stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber) Subject: Re: Pens playoff radio coverage (was:Re: Radio stations) Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Lines: 18 In article <gp2011-200493131949@m248-68.bgsu.edu>, gp2011@andy.bgsu.edu (George Pavlic) writes: > > NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Who's the mindscheme(?) behind this one -- Ted > Simmons? As the saying goes, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I'm 230 > miles from home (during the school year) and will never be able to pick up > DVE. At least now I can sort of make out what Mike and Steigy say through > all the static on KDKA. This just may be enough reason for me to transfer > to Duquesne and live at home. Who's going to announce on DVE anyway? > Paulson and Krenn? (Just kidding.) > > George Don't kid around... They just might listen. Kevin L. Stamber Purdue University waiting to hear 'Free Bird' as the new Penguins theme
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From: JJMARVIN@pucc.princeton.edu Subject: Re: Losing your temper is not a Christian trait Organization: Princeton University Lines: 25 In article <Apr.15.00.58.22.1993.28891@athos.rutgers.edu> ruthless@panix.com (Ruth Ditucci) writes: > One of the tell tale signs/fruits that give non-christians away - is >when their net replies are acrid, angry and sarcastic. > >We in the net village do have a laugh or two when professed, born again >christians verbally attack people who might otherwise have been won to >christianity and had originally joined the discussions because they were >"spiritually hungry." Instead of answering questions with sweetness and >sincerity, these chrisitan net-warriors, "flame" the queries. Although I certainly agree with the basic sentiment that snideness is unloving and ineffective, I'm a little disturbed by the formulation that ill temper is not a Christian trait. It seems like a false argument to say that anyone who displays trait X must not be a Christian. Could well be a sinning Christian, but a Christian nonetheless. Anger is human, and Christians are human: Christians get angry and defensive and react badly just like everyone else. It's not perfect righteousness but the effort of seeking righteousness that marks a dedicated Christian. And one of the greatest gifts of faith to me is that of seeking and accepting forgiveness for my failures. Expecting flawless behavior from self or others isn't Christianity: it's perfectionism.
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From: gtf1000@cus.cam.ac.uk (G.T. Falk) Subject: alt.security.pgp Nntp-Posting-Host: bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk Organization: U of Cambridge, England Lines: 25 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi all.. Does anyone know of a UNIX utility allowing encrypted telnet sessions using public-key? I'd like something so that nobody can snoop my password or session text while I'm logging in remotely over the network. Thanks g. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- PLEASE REPORT UNSIGNED (HENCE UNAUTHORISED) MESSAGES PURPORTEDLY FROM ME, SENT AFTER 22/04/93. gtf1000@cus.cam.ac.uk - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.2 iQBVAgUBK9ZxMTQRcjh0adt3AQFHrwH9HwBPyWwr+/O+pEocO9glPOZ5odKHynW8 AJIiF6Tsm+YMqBwmVHoLm7bUb4JPybQanpkmz8tdd4tYuinSX68cVg== =Gw7z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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From: joshc@csa.bu.edu (Josh Carroll) Subject: Racet Optical Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA Lines: 13 Originator: joshc@csa I've got a Racet 5.25" MO Drive with a Ricoh RO-5030E mechanism with the new ROMs... The thing is, I have a new TOSOH Optical Disk 512/bytes per sector cart for the thing that refuses to mount or be formatted... all the carts that I have for the drive that work are Racet Certified Media 512k/sector carts... All I can think of is that this TOSOH cart uses some kind of incompatible low level format... anyone know what software will allow this to be formatted on this drive? or a new DIP setting for the mechanism? I've tried just about every combination of drivers and custom formatting programs I can find with no luck... any ideas? joshc@csa.bu.edu (if you have a good idea, please e-mail it to this address if possible, I can't check this newsgroup constantly, thanks)
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From: petro@server.uwindsor.ca (PETRO DAVID ) Subject: Shareware Distribution: comp.graphics Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada Lines: 20 Recently I saw the latest Computer Shopper and in it there was an article on nice shareware graphics programs. They looked pretty good and of the 6 listed in the article, one I had (Graphics Workshop), one I found via archie (Draft Choice - old version though) and the rest I couldn't find. So if there is anyone that knows where I can get the following programs via anonymous ftp, please let me know. Adkins Graphics :AG1.ZIP, AG2.ZIP Draft Choice (latest VGA version) : DRAFTC.ZIP Envision Publisher: ENVIS1.ZIP, ENVIS2.ZIP Neopaint: NEOPNT.ZIP Thanx in advance. D.PETRO -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > DAVID PETRO KWYJIBO-- A big, dumb, balding < > Dept. of Physics North American ape. < > University of Windsor petro@server.uwindsor.ca <
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From: bressler@iftccu.ca.boeing.com (Rick Bressler) Subject: Re: "Proper gun control?" What is proper gun control? (was Re: My Gun is like my American Express Card) Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane Group Lines: 96 / iftccu:talk.politics.guns / mikey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Strider) / 8:51 pm Apr 12, 1993 / >I think most of us would rather be held up with a knife than with a gun, >but HOW THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO MANAGE THAT? You still haven't offered I've been watching this knife verses gun bit for a while now, (even contributed a few comments) but this stuff "I'd rather face a knife than a gun" has GOT to come from ignorance! I used to think pretty much the same thing, then I got 'educated.' People do not as a rule understand how deadly knives can be, or how quickly you can be killed with one. Most people don't understand that it takes less than an inch of penetration in some areas to cause quick (within a minute or so) death. The death rates from handguns and knives are within a few percentage points of each other. Many people not realizing how deadly knives are 'try their luck' and thus more get injured by knives. A gun is deadly only in a single direction and it's only advantage is that it is a remote control weapon. A contact weapon such as a knife controls a spherical area 7 to 10 feet in diameter. Most people have never seen knife wounds, aside from slicing a finger by accident. From 21 feet or so, a knife is very nearly an even match for a holstered gun in experienced hands, even if the knife wielder has only moderate skill. From inside 10 feet or so, a knife is a match for a DRAWN gun. A knife is utterly silent, it never jams and never runs out of ammunition. It is limited only by the speed, dexterity skill and ability of it's wielder. Criminals in general are young, fast and strong. It's interesting to note that the patterned slashing attacks used by many martial artists remarkably resemble the wild uncontrolled slashing attacks of novices. I've talked to several well trained martial artists. They have unanimously agreed that if they ever go up against a knife they simply plan on being cut, hopefully not as bad as the attacker. Practicing with firearms requires facilities and equipment. Practicing with knives requires only a small area and something to simulate a knife, say a popsicle stick or tooth brush. Criminals practice their knife attacks in prison. If you have not trained against knives with a firearm and do not realize these facts the first inkling you will have that something is wrong is the knife ripping through your throat, or in the case of an experienced attacker, parts of your body falling off onto the ground. A 60 year old man with arthritis can close that 7 yard distance and gut you in about one and a half seconds. Dennis Tueller with a broken leg in a walking cast managed it in two. I've seen people close that distance and strike in 1 second. I'm old, over weight and slow. I can do it in 1.3 seconds. I've seen morgue footage of people killed with edged weapons that you would not believe. (How about a single stab wound to the chest with a TABLE FORK! In this case the attacker used the HANDLE, not the pointed end.) Add to this the 'fact' that hand gun 'stopping' power is largely a myth. Except in the case of a central nervous system shot, or a round that destroys the skeletal structure, it takes anywhere from 3 to twelve seconds for a bullet wound to 'take effect.' This is true of even heart shots. There is the case of the police woman in L.A., the first recorded survivor of a .357 shot to the heart. That lady not only killed her attacker, but chased him down to do it! All four of her shots, fired after SHE had been shot, struck the perp. Atta girl! The bullet entered her on a downward angle, went through the apex of her heart, down through the diaphragm, clipped her liver and destroyed her spleen. It then exited her back leaving a tennis ball sized hole. She died about six times on the operating table, but was out of the hospital in 15 days and was back on full duty in eight months! She was off duty at the time and not wearing her vest. She was on her way home so happened to have her gun. No, she doesn't think civilians should have the same rights. Sigh. The moral of the story is that even if you DO manage to shoot a knife attacker, you'd better be planning on doing some dodging. A good alternative is to shoot for and break the pelvis. People can often walk (a little) on broken legs but a broken pelvis will nearly always anchor them. Many firearms schools recommend pelvis shots against contact weapons. The target is as large as the traditional 'center of mass' and is more reliable to STOP somebody with a contact weapon, assuming a caliber powerful enough to 'do the job.' Hot .38's on up will usually do this. Remember folks, the idea isn't to 'take em with you' but for you to live and them to fail, whatever the consequences for them. This the reason 'killing them' isn't our goal, or in many cases even good enough to keep us alive. I don't want to face a violent attack of any sort. Knowing what I now know, I can't rightly say I'd rather face a knife than an gun. It would have to depend on the attacker, and if I could pick and choose, I WOULDN'T BE THERE. This is really the bottom line. Criminals do not fear the law. Criminals do not fear the weapon. They fear the citizen behind the weapon that has shown the resolution and determination to do whatever it takes. Rick.
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From: cl238405@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (Steve W Brewer) Subject: How do I make GhostScript work? Organization: University of Louisville Apparently-To: gnu-ghostscript-bug@rutgers.edu Distribution: world Lines: 14 What files do I need to download for GhostScript 2.5.2? I have never used GhostScript before, so I don't have any files for it. What I *do* have is gs252win.zip, which I downloaded from Cica. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work on it's own, but needs some more files that I don't have. I want to run GhostScript both in Windows 3.1 and in MS-DOS on a 386 PC (I understand there's versions for both environments). What are all the files I need to download and where can I get them? Any info would be appeciated. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve W Brewer rewerB W evetS cl238405@ulkyvx.louisville.edu ude.ellivsiuol.xvyklu@504832lc --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: masc0442@ucsnews.sdsu.edu (Todd Greene) Subject: How do I find my AppContext? Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: ucssun1.sdsu.edu Keywords: Context, Xt, motif, application X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Is there an Xt call to give me my application context? I am fixing up an X/Motif program, and am trying to use XtAppAddTimeOut, whose first argument is the app_context. What call can I use to give me this value? Thanks, Todd Greene masc0442@ucssun1.sdsu.edu ~
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From: "danny hawrysio" <danny.hawrysio@canrem.com> Subject: radiosity Reply-To: "danny hawrysio" <danny.hawrysio@canrem.com> Organization: Canada Remote Systems Distribution: comp Lines: 9 -> I am looking for source-code for the radiosity-method. I don't know what kind of machine you want it for, but the program Radiance comes with 'C' source code - I don't have ftp access so I couldn't tell you where to get it via that way. -- Canada Remote Systems - Toronto, Ontario 416-629-7000/629-7044
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From: Mark.Prado@p2.f349.n109.z1.permanet.org (Mark Prado) Subject: Conference on Manned Lunar Exploration. May 7 Crystal City Lines: 25 Reply address: mark.prado@permanet.org > From: higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey) > > In article <1993Apr19.230236.18227@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, > daviss@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (S.F. Davis) writes: > > |> AW&ST had a brief blurb on a Manned Lunar Exploration > confernce> |> May 7th at Crystal City Virginia, under the > auspices of AIAA. > > Thanks for typing that in, Steven. > > I hope you decide to go, Pat. The Net can use some eyes > and ears there... I plan to go. It's about 30 minutes away from my home. I can report on some of it (from my perspective ...) Anyone else on sci.space going to be there? If so, send me netmail. Maybe we can plan to cross paths briefly... I'll maintain a list of who's going. mark.prado@permanet.org * Origin: Just send it to bill.clinton@permanet.org (1:109/349.2)
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From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) Subject: Re: Die Koresh Die! Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting Lines: 9 The explanations of Federal law enforcement officials about what happened in Waco is just another example of the survivors writing the history books to put themselves in the best of a bad light. -- Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com> I'm beginning to look forward to reaching the %100 allocation of taxes to pay for the interest on the national debt. At that point the federal government will be will go out of business for lack of funds.
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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) Subject: Re: While Armenians destroyed all the Moslem villages in the plain... Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) Distribution: world Lines: 48 In article <1pol62INNa5u@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> kvdoel@cs.ubc.ca (Kees van den Doel) writes: >>See, you are a pathological liar. >You got a crack in your record I think. This is the point we seem to disagree about. Not a chance. >I keep seeing that line over and over. That's pathetic, even for >Serdar Argic! Well, "Arromdian" of ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism and Revisionism Triangle is a compulsive liar. Now try dealing with the rest of what I wrote. U.S. Ambassador Bristol: Source: "U.S. Library of Congress:" 'Bristol Papers' - General Correspondence Container #34. "While the Dashnaks were in power they did everything in the world to keep the pot boiling by attacking Kurds, Turks and Tartars; by committing outrages against the Moslems; by massacring the Moslems; and robbing and destroying their homes;....During the last two years the Armenians in Russian Caucasus have shown no ability to govern themselves and especially no ability to govern or handle other races under their power." A Kurdish scholar: Source: Hassan Arfa, "The Kurds," (London, 1968), pp. 25-26. "When the Russian armies invaded Turkey after the Sarikamish disaster of 1914, their columns were preceded by battalions of irregular Armenian volunteers, both from the Caucasus and from Turkey. One of these was commanded by a certain Andranik, a blood-thirsty adventurer. These Armenian volunteers committed all kinds of excesses, more than six hundred thousand Kurds being killed between 1915 and 1916 in the eastern vilayets of Turkey." Serdar Argic 'We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for the Turks and then proceeded in the work of extermination.' (Ohanus Appressian - 1919) 'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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From: mccullou@snake2.cs.wisc.edu (Mark McCullough) Subject: Re: Idle questions for fellow atheists Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Lines: 43 In article <1993Apr5.124216.4374@mac.cc.macalstr.edu> acooper@mac.cc.macalstr.edu writes: > >I wonder how many atheists out there care to speculate on the face of the world >if atheists were the majority rather than the minority group of the population. Probably we would have much the same problems with only a slight shift in emphasis. Weekends might not be so inviolate (more common to work 7 days a week in a business), and instead of American Atheists, we would have similar, religious organizations. A persons religious belief seems more as a crutch and justification for actions than a guide to determine actions. Of course, people would have to come up with more fascinating rationalizations for their actions, but that could be fun to watch... It seems to me, that for most people, religion in America doesn't matter that much. You have extreemists on both ends, but a large majority don't make too much of an issue about it as long as you don't. Now, admittedly, I have never had to suffer the "Bible Belt", but I am just north of it and see the fringes, and the reasonable people in most things tend to be reasonable in religion as well. >Also, how many atheists out there would actually take the stance and accor a >higher value to their way of thinking over the theistic way of thinking. The >typical selfish argument would be that both lines of thinking evolved from the >same inherent motivation, so one is not, intrinsically, different from the >other, qualitatively. But then again a measuring stick must be drawn >somewhere, and if we cannot assign value to a system of beliefs at its core, >than the only other alternative is to apply it to its periphery; ie, how it >expresses its own selfishness. > I don't bother according a higher value to my thinking, or just about anybodys thinking. I don't want to fall in that trap. Because if you do start that, then you are then to decide which is better, says whom, why, is there a best, and also what to do about those who have inferior modes of thinking. IDIC (Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations.) I'll argue it over a soda, but not over much more. Just my $.12 (What inflation has done...) M^2
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From: josephc@cco.caltech.edu (Joseph Chiu) Subject: Re: What is Zero dB???? Article-I.D.: gap.1pkveuINNduk Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena Lines: 33 NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes: >Similarly, people usually use dB for dBm. Another common mistake is spelling >``db'' instead of ``dB'' as you did in your article. See the ``B'' is for >``Bell'' company, the mother of AT&T and should be capitalized. Thus, a deciBell (deci-, l., tenth of + Bell) is a fractional part of the original Bell. For example, SouthWestern Bell is a deciBell. And the measure of current, Amp, is actually named after both the AMP company and the Amphenol company. Both companies revolutionized electronics by simulatenously realizing that the performance of connectors and sockets were affected by the amount of current running through the wires. The Ohmite company was the first to characterize resistances by numbers, thus our use of the Ohms... Alexander Graham Bell, actually, is where Bell came from... Actually, Bel refers > With highest regards, > Babak Sehari. >-- -- Joseph Chiu | josephc@cco.caltech.edu "OS/2: You gotta get this thing!" MSC 380 - Caltech | Pasadena, CA 91126 | OS/2: The operating system of tomorrow, today. +1 818 449 5457 |
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From: khioe@juno.jpl.nasa.gov (Kent Hioe) Subject: Need advice to select sound card ? Keywords: sound card. Nntp-Posting-Host: juno.jpl.nasa.gov Organization: jpl Lines: 32 Hi, I need some advice from the netland in selecting a sound card. I am about to buy a sound card for my kid. I don't know which one to buy. Which one to select from the following list: - Sound Blaster 16 - Miscrosoft- sound card - Audio Spectrum - Sound Blaster pro - Sound Blaster My allocated budget is around $250. Could some of you know about sound cards help me to select the most appropriate one for my kid ? I have 486-33 Mz OPTI MB. I also have NEC CDROM that I would like to connect to the sound card. Thank you. -- Kent khioe@juno.jpl.nasa.gov
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From: rscharfy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ryan C Scharfy) Subject: Re: Good Neighbor Political Hypocrisy Test Nntp-Posting-Host: top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 73 In article <stevethC5nwnn.49t@netcom.com> steveth@netcom.com (Steve Thomas) wri tes: >In article <1993Apr18.001338.21323@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rscharfy@magnus. acs.ohio-state.edu (Ryan C Scharfy) writes: >>>No social problem, however great, is worth destroying the freedom in America . >>>The destruction of freedom is never an answer to any social problem. >> >>You can't even walk down the street at night alone in America because of drug s. >>Freedom my ass. >> >>Ryan > >Why exactely can't you walk down the street safely? It it because somebody >will jump out from behind a shadow, and, SELL YOU DRUGS? Hardly. Or mug me. > On the >other hand, it's certainly possible that you are walking down the steet of >a bustling lawless part of your metropolitan area. Lawless and bustling: read >underground economy. Why must you pursue this fantasy that all crime is derived from "underground economies". > There, it may not be a very safe place to be at all. >Unless of course you're there to buy some drugs... > >I explained how the WOD is a major cause of large-scale crime in America. The >head of the Guardian Angles agrees with me: legalize drugs and watch violent ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Haaahaaaahaaaa >crimes significantly decrease. > >As for me, well, I think I'll go take a walk tonight--alone. I feel safe. I >just hope the FDA/FBI/DEA/BATF isn't back at my apartment confiscating all my >property because they found my phone number written on a phone booth that was >also used by a drug dealer. Yeah buddy, this happens all the time. Tell me, HAS IT EVERY REALLY HAPPENED TO YOU? That's what I thought. > In that sense, I don't feel safe. I'm an honest, >law-abiding citizen (drug laws included, FTM), why is it that I fear the >government more than I fear criminals? > Your foolish. >Freedom MY ass. This is NOT what the founding fathers (some of whom would be >thrown in prison under today's drug laws) had in mind. All of these problems >you come up with pale in comparison to the fact that the very fiber of our >country--the US Constitution--is being destroyed. What good would it do ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Must I ask again, what part? >even IF the WOD actually reduced crime: we just created a new class of >criminals, headed up the gang's current leader: Bill Clinton. The DEA, etc. >are private armies that answer directly to the president. They possess >advanced weapons and survailance technology. Does this sound familiar to >anybody? > >Do you support "Mein Furher Clinton"? Hmmmmmm? You seem to have come out >against the current adminstration: why are you eager to endow it with >even MORE power? (Power of the most dangerous kind, too). > All I ask is that drugs stay illegal. I don't think it's too much to ask. Ryan
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From: shapiro@sofbas.enet.dec.com (Steve Shapiro) Subject: MS C/C++ BOOK ** FORSALE ** Nntp-Posting-Host: sofba2 Organisation: SKS Computer Consulting, Inc. Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Marlboro, MA Lines: 12 Regards, Steve. /******************************************************************* * Steve Shapiro * All views and opinions expressed * * SKS Computer Consulting, Inc. * are my own and are offered as-is * ******************************************************************** * Steve.Shapiro@f440.n101.z1.fidonet.org BBS: (508) 664-6354 N81 * *******************************************************************/