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From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Subject: Re: Remember those names come election time.
Nntp-Posting-Host: c.ch.apollo.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA
Keywords: usa federal, government, international, non-usa government
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In article <C5ztK0.DyI.1@cs.cmu.edu> anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed) writes:
>I said:
> In article <C5u4qI.Mz4@apollo.hp.com> nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
> >
> > Besides, there's no case that can be made for US military involvement
> > there that doesn't apply equally well to, say, Liberia, Angola, or
> > (it appears with the Khmer Rouge's new campaign) Cambodia. Non-whites
> > don't count?
>
> Hmm...some might say Kuwaitis are non-white. Ooops, I forgot, Kuwaitis are
> "oil rich", "loaded with petro-dollars", etc so they don't count.
>
>...and let's not forget Somalia, which is about as far from white as it
>gets.
And why are we in Somalia? When right across the Gulf of Aden are
some of the wealthiest Arab nations on the planet? Why does the
US always become the point man for this stuff? I don't mind us
helping out; but what invariably happens is that everybody expects
us to do most of the work and take most of the risks, even when these
events are occuring in other people's back yards, and they have the
resources to deal with them quite well, thank you. I mean, it's
not like either Serbia, or Somalia represent some overwhelming
military force that their neighbors can't handle. Nor are the
logistics a big deal -- it's a lot bigger logistical challenge
to get troops and supplies from New York to Somalia, than from
Saudi Arabia; harder to go from Texas to Serbia, than Turkey or
Austria to Serbia.
---peter
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From: blaisec@sr.hp.com (Blaise Cirelli)
Subject: Re: New to Motorcycles...
Organization: HP Sonoma County (SRSD/MWTD/MID)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.8]
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Gregory Humphreys (gregh@niagara.dcrt.nih.gov) wrote:
Greg,
I'm very new to motorcycles. Haven't even bought one yet. I was in the same
position about you. How do you learn if you've never ridden.
I took a class put on by a group called the Motorcycle Safety Foundation
in California. They might have something similar in Washington.
Try calling a motorcycle dealer in your area and asking. It's a good first
start on how to ride a motorcycle correctly.
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From: et@teal.csn.org (Eric H. Taylor)
Subject: Re: Gravity waves, was: Predicting gravity wave quantization & Cosmic Noise
Summary: Dong .... Dong .... Do I hear the death-knell of relativity?
Keywords: space, curvature, nothing, tesla
Nntp-Posting-Host: teal.csn.org
Organization: 4-L Laboratories
Distribution: World
Expires: Wed, 28 Apr 1993 06:00:00 GMT
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In article <C4KvJF.4qo@well.sf.ca.us> metares@well.sf.ca.us (Tom Van Flandern) writes:
>crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass) writes:
>> Bruce.Scott@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Scott) writes:
>>> "Existence" is undefined unless it is synonymous with "observable" in
>>> physics.
>> [crb] Dong .... Dong .... Dong .... Do I hear the death-knell of
>> string theory?
>
> I agree. You can add "dark matter" and quarks and a lot of other
>unobservable, purely theoretical constructs in physics to that list,
>including the omni-present "black holes."
>
> Will Bruce argue that their existence can be inferred from theory
>alone? Then what about my original criticism, when I said "Curvature
>can only exist relative to something non-curved"? Bruce replied:
>"'Existence' is undefined unless it is synonymous with 'observable' in
>physics. We cannot observe more than the four dimensions we know about."
>At the moment I don't see a way to defend that statement and the
>existence of these unobservable phenomena simultaneously. -|Tom|-
"I hold that space cannot be curved, for the simple reason that it can have
no properties."
"Of properties we can only speak when dealing with matter filling the
space. To say that in the presence of large bodies space becomes curved,
is equivalent to stating that something can act upon nothing. I,
for one, refuse to subscribe to such a view." - Nikola Tesla
----
ET "Tesla was 100 years ahead of his time. Perhaps now his time comes."
----
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From: steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks)
Subject: Malpractice Not the Issue (Was Re: 8 MYTHS about National Health...)
Summary: Malpractice insurance and litigation don't explain US health probs
Organization: Free the Barbers, Inc.
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Nntp-Posting-Host: thor.isc-br.com
In article <C5p0Hx.39E@acsu.buffalo.edu> v140pxgt@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Daniel B Case) writes:
>In article <1993Apr18.001116.19872@news.columbia.edu>, gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes...
>>The difference in the litigation environment is reflected in the fees.
>>
>>Lack of defensive medicine and near-absence of malpractice is really
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>why we spend less using the most expensive approach of pure insurance
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>Then why do we really need national health insurance then?
>Wouldn't it just make more sense to find some way to cut down
>on the cost of malpractice insurance?
It would if malpractice and "defensive medicine" were the main
factors in explaining spiralling US health care costs, but they aren't.
Although Gary is correct in noting that malpractice-related problems are
greater in the US than Canada, they by no means account for the overall
difference in health care costs. (They do account for a somewhat larger
portion of the difference in physicians' gross income in the two countries.)
Some facts. Malpractice insurance and awards account for less than 1% of
total health care costs in the US. In 1991, according to a survey of
physicians conducted by a national medical journal physicians averaged
paying 3.7% of their practice receipts in malpractice insurance.
Malpractice insurance premiums and malpractice awards peaked in 1985;
they've declined significantly since then. At the same time, health
care costs have increased more than any period in history.
As far as "defensive medicine" is concerned, the AMA estimates that its
total impact is about $7 billion per year. That's about 8% of the total
current INCREASE in health care costs -- and the estimate is from a group
that could be expected to overestimate the impacts of defensive medicine
on health care.
As small a problem as this is in the overall scheme of things, however,
Clinton has been on record for a long time favoring an indemnification
of MD's against malpractice suits if they follow procedures set by their
specialties. This would eliminate most, if not all frivolous suits
while retaining the ability to sue for true malpractice.
jsh
--
Steve Hendricks | DOMAIN: steveh@thor.ISC-BR.COM
"One thing about data, it sure does cut| UUCP: ...!uunet!isc-br!thor!steveh
the bulls**t." - R. Hofferbert | Ma Bell: 509 838-8826
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From: miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: <None>
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services
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In article <1993Apr12.183349.23115@kadsma.kodak.com>, pajerek@telstar.kodak.com (Don Pajerek) writes:
[...]
> What I see is that the media is reasonably fair, but is seen as
> 'liberal' by conservatives, and 'conservative' by liberals.
Not that I think anyone cares, but this pattern (using other examples
of course) was discussed 2,000 years ago by Aristotle in
_Nicomachean_Ethics_. Note that you can't use this insight to reason
backwards; e.g.: Since the conservatives see the media as liberal and
the liberals see the media as conservative, the media are fair! (though
I've seen this "reasoning" implied)
> Don Pajerek
>
> Standard disclaimers apply.
Ken
--
miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu | Nobody can explain everything to everybody.
opinions are my own | G. K. Chesterton
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From: herlock@lclark.edu (Jon Herlocker)
Subject: How to access 24-bit color on cg8?
Article-I.D.: lclark.1993Apr28.000956.12004
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
We have a Sun 3/80 and we have just acquired a cg8 frame buffer card.
The cg8 is supposed to support both a 24-bit color visual and a monochrome visual.
The default visual for the xnews server is the monochrome, and we are unable to change it to
the 24-bit visual. We have tried using XGetVisualInfo to get a visual of depth 24, but had no
success. xdpyinfo gives no information about a 24-bit deep visual, only monochrome.
There are two possible solutions:
If someone has patches for X11R5 Xsun server, could they forward them to us?
Otherwise, could someone instruct us how to access the 24-bit color in openwindows?
--
Jon Herlocker email: herlock@lclark.edu
Lewis & Clark College
Portland, OR 97219
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From: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Anita Hill...giving out pubic hairs?! Oh please! PROVE IT!!
X-To: THEODORE A. KALDIS
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Lines: 100
kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) writes...
>In article <1993Mar20.161551.4638@zooid.guild.org> goid@zooid.guild.org (Will S
>eeves) writes:
>[J. Lani Herrmann:]
>>>> We are wondering why the Clinton administration is having so much
>>>> trouble finding a suitable nominee for the post of Attorney General,
>>>> when there is an obviously superior candidate:...
>>>> We refer, of course, to Prof. Anita Hill.
>[Michael Friedman:]
>>> Probably because if they pick her the Republicans will investigate
>>> the rumors that she sometimes returned papers to her students with
>>> a couple of pubic hairs inserted between the pages.
>> While I'm hardly one of Prof. Hill's biggest fans, I find *this* hard
>> to believe.
>> Could you please supply (with a post, preferably) some proof of this,
>> ie., newspaper articles documenting such allegations, etc.?
>Well, your ignorance about this is unsurprising, given you're a
>Canadian. And I'm at a complete loss at to why you should be so
>interested in this, given that it is an American issue which should
>properly be of absolutely no concern to you at all.
Actually, my interest in gender issues is not limited to international
boundaries. Indeed, I often exchange information with Americans about
issues which concern us, in both countries.
>In any event, in
>answer to your question, the following is taken from David Brock's
>article, "The Real Anita Hill", published in the March 1992 issue of
>_The_American_Spectator_. [This is taken from page 27.]
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ah...someone had mentioned this journal, but gave no further information.
> But the most bizarre incident is alleged to have happened in the
> school year 1983-84 at Oral Roberts [University], according to a
> sworn affidavit, dated October 13, 1991, and filed with the Senate
> Judiciary Committee, in which Lawrence Shiles, now a lawyer in
> Tulsa, recounted the following:
> Shortly after the class had begun, Professor Hill gave us a
> written assignment which I completed and duly turned in. When
> this assignment was passed out to the class after having been
> marked by [the] professor, sitting next to me were fellow
> students Jeffrey Londoff and Mark Stewart. Upon opening the
> assignments and reviewing our grades and comments made by Anita
> Hill, I found ten to twelve short black pubic hairs in the pages
> of my assignment. I glanced over at Jeff Londoff's assignment
> and saw similar pubic hairs in his work. At the time I made the
> statement to Londoff that either she had a low opinion of our
> work or she had graded our assignment in the bathroom. Mark
> Stewart overheard the conversation and said that he had similar
> pubic hairs in his assignment also. This became the standing
> joke among many students for the remainder of the year in
> classes.
> Other students in that class confirmed the story. Londoff says
> he couldn't be certain that the hairs were pubic, but he said he
> thought it was unlikely that they could have come from Hill's head,
> since they were short, coarse, and curly, and Hill had had the hair
> on her head straightened. Another student who saw the hair, but
> did not want to be identified, said of its origins: "You just know
> when you see it."
>Does this satisfy you,
Yes, thank you, though I am really curious as to why this never came out
(at least not in what I saw, up here in Canada, or on CNN, which is sent
up here) during the Thomas nomination hearings. Surely, one would think
that her claim to having been sexually harassed, would have a great deal
less credibility if it could be shown that she had herself been guilty of it.
>or do you regard sworn statements given to a
>U.S. Senate committee as equivalent to toilet paper?
Ahemmm.... It depends. :-)
(For instance, if it were the "sworn statements" at the Warren Commission,
then yes, I _would_ say that the statements were no better than toilet
paper, used at that :-), but in most cases, the answer would be "no").
---
Will Steeves, goid@zooid.guild.org "Neil Hull is GOiD"
ZOOiD BBS, Toronto, Ontario - The Zoo Of Ids "GOiDS Rule"
(416) 322-7876
"Solve Patriarchy, Install Peterarchy"
- Peter J. Hanus, B.A. (UPEI)
* SLMR 2.1a * Scott me up, Beamy.
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From: hayesstw@risc1.unisa.ac.za (Steve Hayes)
Subject: Re: When are two people married in God's eyes?
Organization: University of South Africa
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In article <Apr.16.23.15.27.1993.1836@geneva.rutgers.edu> cs89mcd@brunel.ac.uk (Michael C Davis) writes:
>: I would like to get your opinions on this: when exactly does an engaged
>: couple become "married" in God's eyes? Some say that if the two have
>: publically announced their plans to marry, have made their vows to God, and
>: are unswervingly committed to one another (I realize this is a subjective
>: qualifier) they are married/joined in God's sight.
>
>The way I read Scripture, a couple becomes married when they are *physically*
>married, i.e. when they first have sexual intercourse.
Some years ago an Anglican synod was discussing the marriage canons and
there was some debate on what actually constituted a marriage.
The bishop of Natal, whose wife of many years had died, and who had recently
remarried, announced "It MUST be consummated" and looked like that cat that
got the cream.
So I suppose he at least would agree with you.
============================================================
Steve Hayes, Department of Missiology & Editorial Department
Univ. of South Africa, P.O. Box 392, Pretoria, 0001 South Africa
Internet: hayesstw@risc1.unisa.ac.za Fidonet: 5:7101/20
steve.hayes@p5.f22.n7101.z5.fidonet.org
FAQ: Missiology is the study of Christian mission and is part of
the Faculty of Theology at Unisa
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From: mhollowa@ic.sunysb.edu (Michael Holloway)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Rat cell line (adrenal gland/cortical c.)
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
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NNTP-Posting-Host: engws5.ic.sunysb.edu
Keywords: adrenal_gland cortical_cell cell_line rat
In article <roos.49@Operoni.Helsinki.FI> roos@Operoni.Helsinki.FI (Christophe Roos) writes:
>I am looking for a rat cell line of adrenal gland / cortical cell -type. I
>have been looking at ATCC without success and would very much appreciate any
>help.
I shot off a response to this last night that I've tried to cancel. It was
only a few minutes later while driving home that I remembered that your
message does specifically say cortical. My first reaction had been to suggest
the PC12 pheochromocytoma line. That may still be a good compromise, depending
on what you're doing. Have you concidered using a mouse cell line from one
of the SV40 T antigen transgenic lines? Another alternative might be primary
cells from bovine adrenal cortex.
Mike
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From: gelldav@elof.iit.edu (David A. Geller)
Subject: Parity Error - System Halted /anyone have any ideas?
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
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I recently bought an AMD 386/40. The motherboard booklet says
the board is a "391 WB/H." I have 4 1x3 simms on board. The machine
also uses a Super IDE I/O Card (model PT-604). (of course niether
the motherboard or the I/O card booklet clearly state who the manufacurers
are) I'm also using a Trident 8900C SVGA card.
Anyway, that's all of the pertinent info I can think of.
My problem is that the computer often freezes or displays "Parity Error --
System Halted" messages depending on whether I set the Memory Parity Error
Checking to "disabled" or "enabled" in the setup of the bios (makes sense).
Its AMI bios (so it must be an AMI board?).
I just took it back to the dealer and they replaced all of the
SIMMS but I keep getting the same error (more frequently now). It all
worked at the dealer and didn't start screwing up 'till I got home (figures).
I've tried to take out all of the SIMMS and even re-inserted them
in reverse order, making sure that the connections were solid.
My suspicion jumps to this damn all in one HD controller/serial/
parallel/game-port I/O card, or to the motherboard (God forbid).
CAN ANYONE HELP?
Thanks, Peace,
David Geller
gelldav@elof.acc.iit.edu
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From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Subject: Re: The Role of the National News Media in Inflaming Passions
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
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In article <C5IAK2.5zH@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, gsh7w@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy) writes:
> In article <15377@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> #But what came out,
> #in much lower profile reporting, was that the "victim" was a
> #prostitute, and the man had not paid her -- hence the false
> #accusation.
>
> There was no evidence the woman in question was a prostitute, the
> defense merely alledged that she was. Even Clayton knows the
> difference. Err, perhaps Clayton doesn't know the difference.
Evidence given for her prostitute status, besides the admittedly
questionable claim of the man on trial included:
1. Prior employment in a number of massage parlors, with women who
claimed that she worked as a prostitute;
2. Walking around a truck stop at 4:00 AM wearing a lace miniskirt,
a halter top, and no underwear of any sort;
3. Not having a purse or other I.D. with her.
Not enough to convict her, but enough to create reasonable doubt
whether a rape actually took place, or theft of services.
Are you just ignorant, or lying again?
> #the judge found that there was some credible evidence that the
> #Marines were engaged in self-defense.
>
> No, the judge found that the prosecution did not carry out the burder
> on proof. A small clipping from clarinews, under fair use guidelines:
>
> # New Hanover District Court Judge Jacqueline Morris-Goodson ruled in
> #the benchtrial that the state failed to carry its burden in proving the
> #Marines acted to cause injury.
The accounts on the evening news indicated that they claimed self-
defense, and the judge agreed that they were so operating.
> -Greg Hennessy, University of Virginia
--
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer My opinions, all mine!
Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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From: pgf5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Garfiel Freeman)
Subject: Re: Argic
Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: pgf5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Peter Garfiel Freeman)
Organization: Columbia University
Lines: 13
In article <dj80734@pro-angmar.alfalfa.com> cosmo@pro-angmar.alfalfa.com (Frank Benson) writes:
>You definetly are in need of a shrink, loser!
Hey cheesedicks, stop sending messages to a guy who's not going to
read them. And who cares anyway?
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From: kilroy@gboro.rowan.edu (Dr Nancy's Sweetie)
Subject: Re: Food For Thought On Tyre
Summary: Another Inerrantist rewrites the Bible.
Keywords: Scripture, implication, prophesy, `Woof!'
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey
Disclaimer: Brandy the WonderDog hopes his doghouse will be rebuilt.
Lines: 93
There has been a lot of discussion about Tyre. In sum, Ezekiel prophesied
that the place would be mashed and never rebuilt; as there are a lot of
people living there, it would appear that Ezekiel was not literally correct.
This doesn't bother me at all, because I understand the language Ezekiel used
differently than do so-called Biblical literalists. For example, it sometimes
happens that someone says "My grandson is the cutest baby!" and then turns
around and sees the granddaughter and says "Oh! Isn't she the cutest thing!?"
This person is not literally claiming to have lined up all the babies in the
world according to cuteness and discovered his own grandchildren tied for
first. Rather, he is trying to express his emotions using words that are very
object-oriented. Because this example is one that is common to many people,
nobody misunderstands the intent of the statements; the Bible, however, is
often at the mercy of people who assume that everything within must be exactly
literally true. For those people, the existence of Tyre is a problem; for me,
it is not.
Turning to the latest person trying to defend Ezekiel, we read this from
John E King:
> The prophesy clearly implies that people would still be living in the
> area[.]
No, it implies nothing of the kind. If you had nothing but the prophecy from
Ezekiel, and you were told you interpret it literally, you would never say
"Oh, he means that there will be houses and businesses and plants and stuff
like that." You would read "I will make you a bare rock" and "You will never
be rebuilt", and you'd conclude that Tyre would be a bare rock. The only way
to get from `fishing nets' to `houses and buildings and a medium-large
population' is if you KNOW that all that latter stuff is there.
In other words, your answer means that Ezekiel misled everybody who read the
prophecy at the time it was written. There is no way that, given a literal
reading, they could read this passage and conclude "medium-size city".
You seem to feel that "Never be rebuilt" means "be rebuilt" -- maybe so, but
it is hardly a `clear implication'.
Mr King also writes:
> So far I've seen stated figurers ranging from 15,000 to 22,000.
> Let's assume the latter one is correct. By modern standards
> we are talking about a one-horse town.
Well, no. That's only a bit less than the population of Annapolis, where I'm
from. You know, the Naval Acadamy, the state capital, George Washington
resigned his commission in the statehouse? Annapolis may not be New York, but
it's at least a two-horse town.
But supposing 22,000 people is a "small town" -- it's still 22,000 people
MORE than Ezekiel predicted.
And you've said nothing about the other problem. In chapter 26, Ezekiel
predicts that Nebuchadnezzar will will destroy Tyre and loot all their
valuables. However, Nebuchadnezzar did NOT destroy Tyre, and in chapter 29
Ezekiel even quotes God as saying "he and his army got no reward from the
campaign he led against Tyre."
Let's ignore Alexander for a moment, and just pay attention to chapter 26.
Ezekiel says N. would destroy Tyre, and N. did NOT destroy Tyre. Ezekiel says
that N. would plunder their valuables, but N. did NOT plunder their valuables.
Regardless of what you think about Tyre _now_, the fact is that N. died before
the place was destroyed. Ezekiel said N. was going to do it, and N. did not.
*
This post is, of course, pointless. Inerrantists have an amazing ability
to rewrite the Bible as needed to fit whatever they want it to say.
For example, I expect Mr King to respond to the comments about Ezekiel 26
by pulling some "clear implications" out of hat.
When Ezekiel said that N. would "demolish your towers", that clearly implied
that the walls would still be standing so people would know where the towers
used to be. And when Ezekiel said that N. would "demolish your fine houses
and throw your stones, timber and rubble into the sea", that clearly implied
that N. would never set foot on the island. And when Ezekiel wrote that N.
would "build a ramp up to your walls", that clearly implies that N. would
spend 13 years stomping around on the mainland and never get close to the
walls.
See? A few "clear implications" that are totally contrary to the text, and
you can reconcile anything you want.
Darren F Provine / kilroy@gboro.rowan.edu
"[Do] You know why I'm the enabler? Because you demand it!" -- Cliff Claven
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From: fulk@cs.rochester.edu (Mark Fulk)
Subject: Re: Breech Baby Info Needed
Organization: University of Rochester
Lines: 89
In article <1993Apr5.151818.27409@trentu.ca> xtkmg@trentu.ca (Kate Gregory) writes:
>In article <1993Apr3.161757.19612@cs.rochester.edu> fulk@cs.rochester.edu (Mark Fulk) writes:
>>
>>Another uncommon problem is maternal hemorrhage. I don't remember the
>>incidence, but it is something like 1 in 1,000 or 10,000 births. It is hard
>>to see how you could handle it at home, and you wouldn't have very much time.
>>
>>thing you might consider is that people's risk tradeoffs vary. I consider
>>a 1/1,000 risk of loss of a loved one to require considerable effort in
>>the avoiding.
>
>Mark, you seem to be terrified of the birth process
That's ridiculous!
>and unable to
>believe that women's bodies are actually designed to do it.
They aren't designed, they evolved. And, much as it discomforts us, in
humans a trouble-free birth process was sacrificed to increased brain and
cranial size. Wild animals have a much easier time with birth than humans do.
Domestic horses and cows typically have a worse time. To give you an idea:
my family tree is complicated because a few of my pioneer great-great-
grandfathers had several wives, and we never could figure out which wife
had each child. One might ask why this happened. My great-great-
grandfathers were, by the time they reached their forties, quite prosperous
farmers. Nonetheless, they lost several wives each to the rigors of
childbirth; the graveyards in Spencer, Indiana, and Boswell, North Dakota,
contain quite a few gravestones like "Ida, wf. of Jacob Liptrap, and
baby, May 6, 1853."
>You wanted
>to section all women carrying breech in case one in a hundred or a
>thousand breech babies get hung up in second stage,
More like one in ten. And the consequences can be devastating; I have
direct experience of more than a dozen victims of a fouled-up breech birth.
>and now you want
>all babies born in hospital based on a guess of how likely maternal
>hemorrhage is and a false belief that it is fatal.
It isn't always fatal. But it is often fatal, when it happens out of
reach of adequate help. More often, it permanently damages one's health.
Clearly women's bodies _evolved_ to give birth (I am no believer in divine
design); however, evolution did not favor trouble-free births for humans.
>You have your kids where you want. You encourage your wife to
>get six inch holes cut through her stomach muscles, expose herself
>to anesthesia and infection, and whatever other "just in case" measures
>you think are necessary.
My, aren't we wroth! I haven't read a more outrageous straw man attack
in months! I can practically see your mouth foam.
We're statistically sophisticated enough to balance the risks. Although
I can't produce exact statistics 5 years after the last time we looked
them up, rest assured that we balanced C-section risks against other risks.
I wouldn't encourage my wife to have a Caesarean unless it was clearly
indicated; on the other hand, I am opposed (on obvious grounds) to waiting
until an emergency to give in.
And bear this in mind: my wife took the lead in all of these decisions.
We talked things over, and I did a lot of the leg work, but the main
decisions were really hers.
>But I for one am bothered by your continued
>suggestions, especially to the misc.kidders pregnant for the first
>time, that birth is dangerous, even fatal, and that all these
>unpleasant things are far better than the risks you run just doing
>it naturally.
I don't know of very many home birth advocates, even, that think that
a first-time mother should have her baby at home.
>I'm no Luddite. I've had a section. I'm planning a hospital birth
>this time. But for heaven's sake, not everyone needs that!
But people should bother to find out the relative risks. My wife was
unwilling to take any significant risks in order to have nice surroundings.
In view of the intensity of the birth experience, I doubt surroundings
have much importance anyway. Somehow the values you're advocating seem
all lopsided to me: taking risks, even if fairly small, of serious
permanent harm in order to preserve something that is, after all,
an esthetic consideration.
--
Mark A. Fulk University of Rochester
Computer Science Department fulk@cs.rochester.edu
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From: MUNIZB%RWTMS2.decnet@rockwell.com ("RWTMS2::MUNIZB")
Subject: Space Event near Los Angeles, CA
X-Added: Forwarded by Space Digest
Organization: [via International Space University]
Original-Sender: isu@VACATION.VENARI.CS.CMU.EDU
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Apologies if this gets posted twice, but I don't think the first one
made it.
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: OASIS (310) 364-2290
15 April 1993 Los Angeles, CA
LOCAL NATIONAL SPACE SOCIETY CHAPTERS SPONSOR TALK BY L.A.
ADVOCATE OF LUNAR POWER SYSTEM AS ENERGY SOURCE FOR THE WORLD
On April 21, the OASIS and Ventura County chapters of the National
Space Society will sponsor a talk by Lunar Power System (LPS) co-
inventor and vice-president of the LPS Coalition, Dr. Robert D.
Waldron. It will be held at 7:30 p.m. at the Rockwell Science
Center in Thousand Oaks, CA.
Dr. Waldron is currently a Technical Specialist in Space
Materials Processing with the Space Systems Division of Rockwell
International in Downey, California. He is a recognized world
authority on lunar materials refinement. He has written or
coauthored more than 15 articles or reports on nonterrestrial
materials processing or utilization. Along with Dr. David
Criswell, Waldron invented the lunar/solar power system concept.
Momentum is building for a coalition of entrepreneurs, legal
experts, and Soviet and U.S. scientists and engineers to build
the Lunar Power System, a pollution-free, energy source with a
potential to power the globe.
For the past three years members of the coalition, nearly half
from California, have rejuvenated the commercial and scientific
concept of a solar power system based on the Moon.
The LPS concept entails collecting solar energy on the lunar
surface and beaming the power to Earth as microwaves transmitted
through orbiting antennae. A mature LPS offers an enormous
source of clean, sustainable power to meet the Earth's ever
increasing demand using proven, basic technology.
OASIS (Organization for the Advancement of Space
Industrialization) is the Greater Los Angeles chapter of the
National Space Society, which is an international non-profit
organization that promotes development of the space frontier.
The Ventura County chapter is based in Oxnard, CA.
WHERE: Rockwell Science Center Auditorium, 1049 Camino
Dos Rios, Thousand Oaks, CA.
DIRECTIONS: Ventura Freeway 101 to Thousand Oaks, exit onto
Lynn Road heading North (right turn from 101
North, Left turn from 101 South), after about 1/2
mile turn Left on Camino Dos Rios, after about 1/2
mile make First Right into Rockwell after Camino
Colindo, Parking at Top of Hill to the Left
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From: shz@mare.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Re: Riceburner Respect
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Nntp-Posting-Host: binky
Lines: 17
In article <1993Apr19.013752.22843@research.nj.nec.com>, behanna@syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes:
> On a completely different tack, what was the eventual outcome of
> Babe vs. the Bad-Mouthed Biker?
I thought I posted this last year.
The women came to court with three witnesses; the two women that were in
the car and one neighbor that heard me shouting. My lawyer didn't like
the odds since there were multiple complaints both ways and the judge had
a history of finding everyone guilty of at least something, so he convinced
us (she came without a lawyer) to drop everything. The net result was
a $500 laywer bill for me and $35 court costs for her.
The only consolation was that she had trouble scraping together the $35
while $500 is not quite one week's beer money for me...
- Roid
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From: psb@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Jr Phillip S Buckland)
Subject: Re: "Accepting Jeesus in your heart..."
Organization: Kansas State University
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[DISCLAIMER: Throughout this post, there are statements and questions which
could easily be interpreted as being sarcastic. They are not. I have written
this reply in the most even-handed manner that I can, with no emotions boiling
to the surface as it was written. Please accept this as a serious attempt to
foster dialog and rest assurred that I make every attempt to make fun of no
one, except myself ;-)]
gsu0033@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Eric Molas) writes:
>Firstly, I am an atheist. I am not posting here as an immature flame
>start, but rather to express an opinion to my intended audience.
[...]
>1) The human being is an _animal_ who has, due to his/her advanced
>mental facilities, developed religious as a satisfiable solution to
>explain the unexplainable. [...]
Hmmm. There are other animals on this planet with advanced
mental facilities which have not developed "religion" as a
satisfactory explaination for the unexplained. Why is this so?
Further, it appears that only humans have a "need" to explain the
unexplained. Why is this so? The other animals on this planet,
including those with advanced mental facilities, seem perfectly
content in their ignorance.
I'd like to point out that your presuppositions scream out at me
from your unsupported statement. They are: 1) humans are animal
*only*; 2) religion exists as a crutch so that the unexplained need
not be researched; 3) religion was "made up" by humans to address a
perceived need; 4) the biological aspect of humans is deified (that
is, all aspects of human life can be categorized in a hierarchical
structure with biology at the apex).
Needless to say, I disagree with your strong opinion #1 and the
underlying presuppositions.
>Christianity is an infectious cult. The reasons it flourishes are
>because 1) it gives people without hope or driven purpose in life
>a safety blanked to hide behind. "Oh wow..all i have to do is
>follow this christian moral standard and I get eternal happiness."
>For all of you "found jeezus" , how many of you were "on the brink?"
I disagree that Christianity is "an infectious cult". It has
certainly shown itself to be persistent as a belief system, in
spite of various persecutions throughout the past two millenia.
That it continues to persevere does not demonstrate that it is
"infectious" in a derrogatory sense; it may be that it provides
a workable system for its adherents (and I would argue that this
is the case).
I disagree that Christianity is "a safety blanket" which supplants
hope and purpose. Rather, it points an individual to the one
Source of hope and purpose. There is nothing hidden about a
Christian's source for hope and purpose. Of what usefulness to
you is the distinction between internally motivated hope and purpose
and externally given hope and purpose? Is the (apparent) loss of
control over one's own life the problem or is it something else?
Finally, one does not appropriate "eternal happiness" by following
Christian moral standards. Indeed, the sole reason for the existance
of Christianity is *because* standards are inadequate to save people
from their imperfections. Moral standards are merely guides to the
Christian; the real power to moral living is given to the Christian
in the Person of God's Spirit.
Heaven is one of two final states that
Christian doctrine postulates. However, Christians are generally
not motivated to live according to Christian moral standards by this
promised future reward; rather, they are motivated by the perceived
benefits to them in the here-and-now.
>but i digress... The other reason christianity flourishes is its
>infectious nature. A best friend of mine breifly entered a christian
>group and within months, they set ministry guidelines for him which
>basicaly said this -->Priority #1 Spread the Word.
Many Christian organizations are concerned with evangelism as a
priority, and rightly so (for it was Jesus Himself who gave this
as a priority for His followers). However, it is not the penultimate
priority as evangelism is normally understood (i.e. preach the word,
convert at nearly any cost, repeat with new convert ad infinitum).
Rather, such evangelism is generally best done through respecting
the opinions of others while *demonstrating* the very real benefits
of a Christian lifestyle. This demonstration should be so powerful
that it compels the non-Christian to seek out the Christian to ask
"Why?" Needless to say, such a demonstration is not easily accom-
plished (it takes a radical committment to the person of Jesus), it
does not happen quickly (so perseverance on the part of the Christian
is required), and it cannot occur where no personal bonds of
friendship exist (it is ineffective with strangers who cannot
evaluate the demonstration over time, and it is easy to alienate or
harm others if the sole purpose of being a "friend" is to gain a
conversion).
As a long-time Christian (nearly 20 years), I view with some skep-
ticism *all* evangelism programs which incorporate a "hurry-up"
attitude. Pressured conversions may ultimately be worse than no
conversion at all (because the pressured convert realizes s/he was
coerced and disavows Christianity when they would have been open
to it in the future had they not been taken advantage of now).
The Bible states that it is the very Spirit of God which brings
conviction of wrong-doing to people. I am content to do my part
(witness) and let the Spirit do the rest.
>We are _just_ animals. We need sleep, food, and we reproduce. And we
>die.
We are far more than animals. We sleep, eat, reproduce, and die
just as other animals do - true. But, we are also capable of more
than this. If your personal vision of humanity (or of yourself) is
so limited, I can only hope and pray ;-) that you will someday find
a more expansive view.
(For reflection, what animals have the wide variety of performing
arts that humans do? How is it that humans can learn the language
of other humans (or animals) but that other animals cannot do so?
How is it that humans can organize themselves in various social
structures whereas other animals have only one structure?)
>Religion (especially Christianity) is nothing more than a DRUG.
Blatant assertion. Christianity is not physically addictive.
Christianity is not psychologically addictive. Christianity is not
a *thing* which one snorts/ingests/shoots-up; it is a relationship
with a living being. You might as validly characterize any close-
knit relationship with this appelation.
>Some people use drugs as an escape from reality. Christians inject
>themselves with jeezus and live with that high.
There are "Jesus freaks" who let the emotional aspects of worship
and Christian living gain (and retain) the upper hand. Even so,
this does not by itself invalidate the foundation from which these
things flow.
>It pities me how many millions of lives have been lost in religious
>wars, of which Christianity has had no small part.
Guilty by association? That "christianity" which forces itself
upon another is not Christianity at all.
>When Christians see a "non-believer", they say that person is blind
>to the truth, but they cannot realize that it is _they_ who live
>with this mask of fakeness each day. Jesus was just prophet #37696
>who happened to have a large influence because at that time the Romans
>were (circa 69ad) dispersing the Jewish population and communities
>needed some sort of cohesive element to keep them strong in that time
>of dire need.
You appear to have an amazing certainty about what really happened
2000 years ago. How did you come by it?
I cannot accept your conclusion that Jesus' influence was a sole
result of the Roman sack of Jerusalem in 70AD. He was 30+ years
gone by this time. It strains the bounds of credulity to assert
that nothing about Jesus' life was noteworthy _until_ the sack.
>I must go. These are but a few of my thoughts on Christianity.
Christianity is having a relationship with Jesus Christ Himself.
What do you know of Him?
We read the world wrong | Phil Buckland
and say that it deceives us. | psb@eece.ksu.edu
Tagore, from Stray Birds | psb@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
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From: gking@cymbal.calpoly.edu (Gregory S King)
Subject: SS 24X Questions
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Distribution: usa
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Just got a ss24X based on its good ratings, but am a little
under-impressed. First, is it's performance in 16.7 mill. supposed
to be comparable to a Trident 8900 (or other unaccelerated VGA)? I
came up with only OK performance on WinSpeed. In 256, it was between
good and great. Second, does anyone know where to get that JPG viewer
"for the SS24X". I saw it on cica or something. Does it work better.
Thanks for any help.
Greg
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I Gregory S. King I "The Quality of Life is I
I Aeronautical Engineering I Directly Proportional to I
I Cal Poly SLO I How Fast You Drive" I
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From: hahm@fossi.hab-weimar.de (peter hahm)
Subject: Radiosity
Keywords: radiosity, raytracing, rendering
Nntp-Posting-Host: fossi.hab-weimar.de
Organization: Hochschule fuer Architektur und Bauwesen Weimar, Germany
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RADIOSITY SOURCES WANTED !!!
============================
When I read the comp.graphics group, I never found something about
radiosity. Is there anybody interested in out there? I would be glad
to hear from somebody.
I am looking for source-code for the radiosity-method. I have already
read common literature, e. g.Foley ... . I think little examples could
help me to understand how radiosity works. Common languages ( C, C++,
Pascal) prefered.
I hope you will help me!
Yours
Peter
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From: stromer@eyore.unet.com (Philip H. Stromer)
Subject: Re: URGENT **** TED FRANK WANTED FOR KILLING AJ TEEL...
Article-I.D.: unet.1993Apr6.221210.3054
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Redwood City
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Nntp-Posting-Host: eyore
If the heading is true, Mr. Frank should be ashamed of himself.
Nothing makes me gag more than people who don't respect the
rights of others to voice their opinions. My idol Lenny Bruce
once commented about "that asshole Time Magazine" when they
advocated censorship of his material. Time actually sided
with the cops' and their arresting of Bruce at his shows,
whereby he routinely would say "cocksucker", then the cops
would rush the stage to arrest him. My, how the times haven't
changed...
I can't help but think of how Lenny would be received in today's
politically correct arena. Heck, I even support the right of
neo nazis to speak their opinions and march down the streets.
And before Mr. Frank or anyone else makes any wisecracks about
anti-Semitism...I'm Jewish, a longtime member of AIPAC and the JNF,
and have contributed over $1000 apiece to these fine groups. I'm
a regular contributor to every pro-Israel group I can find, but I
still support the right of people like Arf to speak up and vomit
his propaganda.
I want to know just WHO these people are !!!
I'm basing all this on the assumption that Mr. Frank did indeed
write to some sysadmin requesting Mr. Teel to be admonished. If
this is not the case, I hereby retract these nasties directed
toward him. If not, I stand against Mr. Frank and his trashing
of the First Amendment.
Philip Stromer
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Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
From: a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com (Arthur Rubin)
Distribution: na
Organization: Beckman Instruments, Inc.
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In <strnlghtC5nrHw.1qB@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>In article <115863@bu.edu> uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt) writes:
>>
>>I wish I could agree with you. Ask yourself this. Why would any private
>>sector entity wish to buy a crypto system that was KNOWN to be at least
>>partially compromised? (Key escrows in this instance) Why would any
>>private sector entity wish to buy a crypto system that had not been properly
>>evaluated? (i.e. algorythm not publically released)
>>The answer seems obvious to me, they wouldn't. There is other hardware out
>>there not compromised. DES as an example (triple DES as a better one.)
>What follows is my opinion. It is not asserted to be "the truth" so no
>flames, please. It comes out of a background of 20 years as a senior
>corporate staff executive in two Fortune 50 companies.
No wonder American businesses are going down the tubes! :-|
>I'd be happy to use a crypto system supplied by the NSA for business, if
>they told me it was more secure than DES, and in particular resistant to
>attempts by Japanese, French, and other competitive companies and
>governments to break.
(It's NIST, not NSA. NSA is not supposed to have anything to do with this.)
They didn't say that. They said is was better than some commercial-grade
encryptions. I, for one, wouldn't trust them if they did, unless they
release the algorithm for investigation.
>I'd be happy to do so even with escrowed keys, provided I was happy about
>the bona fides of the escrow agencies (the Federal Reserve would certainly
>satisfy me, as would something set up by one of the big 8 accounting firms).
Maybe the ACLU and EFF. (It would have to be a non-profit, so the big 8
would be out.)
>I'd trust the NSA or the President if they stated there were no trap
>doors--I'd be even happier if a committee of independent experts examined
>the thing under seal of secrecy and reported back that it was secure.
I wouldn't trust the NSA. I think I would trust the President on this, but
I'm not certain he would be told.
>I'd trust something from the NSA long before I'd trust something from some
>Swiss or anybody Japanese.
That's your problem.
>This may seem surprising to some here, but I suggest most corporations would
>feel the same way. Most/many/some (pick one) corporations have an attitude
>that the NSA is part of our government and "we support our government", as
>one very famous CEO put it to me one day.
I want to emphasize the I am not speaking for Beckman Instruments at this
point. However, we are an international company, and I would like to think
that our customers come first, ahead of our government's whims.
--
Arthur L. Rubin: a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com (work) Beckman Instruments/Brea
216-5888@mcimail.com 70707.453@compuserve.com arthur@pnet01.cts.com (personal)
My opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my employer.
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From: noye@midway.uchicago.edu (vera shanti noyes)
Subject: Re: When are two people married in God's eyes?
Reply-To: noye@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
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i have a question for you all related to this. jesus condemns divorce
several times in the new testament, and i have a hard time with this.
the catholic church (as far as i can tell) does grant annulments with
the statement that the marriage never really existed in God's eyes.
(please, if i am mistinterpreting, correct me.) however, i have
witnessed marriages where two people were very much in love but
recognized that they were destroying themselves and each other by
staying in a marriage, and that the problems were due to personal
childhood issues that had never been resolved. i ask you, is divorce
justified in such a case? they knew who they were, what they were
doing, they were deeply in love, but in the end, it did not work out.
i must admit that i don't see jesus forcing them to live together, or
even condemning that they go and seek happiness with someone else
later on. opinions?
vera
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I am your CLOCK! | I bind unto myself today | Vera Noyes
I am your religion! | the strong name of the | noye@midway.uchicago.edu
I own you! | Trinity.... | no disclaimer -- what
- Lard | - St. Patrick's Breastplate | is there to disclaim?
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[This is a commonly discussed question, though it's been long enough
that I'll allow it to be asked. As you might expect, there is a range
of answers. Catholics and some others will say that divorce is never
justified. (By the way, in situations where someone is being abused,
or for other serious cause, separation is allowed by all traditions
that I know. No one should be forced to stay in a situation where
they are in danger.) Others see it as a last resort in situations
that have fallen apart badly enough that the best we can hope for is
to choose the lesser of evils. In some sense the difficult legal
question turns out not to be divorce, but remarriage. That's because
of Jesus' statement in Mark 10:11-12 and par. As with so many other
things, this turns on your approach to the Bible. Conservative
Protestants tend to see statements like this as having no exceptions.
More liberal ones are willing to make allowances for situations where
a literal interpretation would lead to painful results. (It is noted
that at the time it was possible for a man to divorce his wife almost
on a whim. Thus a common explanation in the more liberal approach is
that Jesus was trying to protect people from this sort of thing, not
to establish an absolute rule to which there could never be
exceptions.) Catholics, as is typical with Catholic ethics, take a
theoretical hard line, but allow for exceptions in practice through
the process of anullment. In the last discussion most of our
non-Catholic readers seemed to accept with some reluctance that
in some cases there might be no good alternative, but there was a
feeling that the church should often be doing a better job of
helping people prepare for marriage and deal with problems that
come up during it, and that in a properly run church, divorce
should not be necessary. --clh]
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From: baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke)
Subject: Re: Comet in Temporary Orbit Around Jupiter?
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
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Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
In article <1psfan$pj0@access.digex.net>, prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes...
>In article <6APR199314571378@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov> baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) writes:
>|Comet Gehrels 3, which was discovered in 1977, was determined to have
>|been in a temporary Jovian orbit from 1970 to 1973. Comet Shoemaker-Levy 1993e
>|may remain in orbit around Jupiter long enough to allow Galileo to
>|make some closeup observations. The orbital trajectory for Comet
>|Shoemaker-Levy is still being determined.
>a
>
>What about positional uncertainties in S-L 1993e?
If Comet Shoemaker-Levy 1993e is in Jovian orbit, and if the comet
is still hanging around when Galileo arrives, then I'm sure it will
be added to the list of targets. We'll have by then over two years
of Earth-based observations to help narrow down the positions of the
pieces of the comet. It probably won't be too much different than
what was done with Gaspra.
>But when they were
>imaging toutatis?
Galileo did not image Toutatis. That came from Earth-based radar.
___ _____ ___
/_ /| /____/ \ /_ /| Ron Baalke | baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov
| | | | __ \ /| | | | Jet Propulsion Lab |
___| | | | |__) |/ | | |__ M/S 525-3684 Telos | Being cynical never helps
/___| | | | ___/ | |/__ /| Pasadena, CA 91109 | to correct the situation
|_____|/ |_|/ |_____|/ | and causes more aggravation
| instead.
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From: cjhs@minster.york.ac.uk
Subject: Xt intrinsics: slow popups
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
Lines: 19
Keywords:
Help: I am running some sample problems from O'Reilly volume 4,
Xt Intrisics Programming Manual, chapter 3. popup
dialog boxes and so on.
In example 3.5, page 76 : "Creating a pop-up dialog box"
The application creates window with a button "Quit" and "Press me".
The button "Press me" pops up a dialog box. The strange feature of
this program is that it always pops up the dialog box much faster the
first time. If I try to pop it up a 2nd time (3rd, 4th .... time),
it is *much* slower.
Has anyone any experience with these sample programs, or why I get
this behaviour - fast response time for the first time but slow response
time from 2nd time onwards ?
Anyone can give me some ideas on how to program popups so that each time
they popup in reasonable fast response time ?
Thankyou - Shirley
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From: andrey@cco.caltech.edu (Andre T. Yew)
Subject: Re: 16 million vs 65 thousand colors
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 28
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
d9hh@dtek.chalmers.se (Henrik Harmsen) writes:
>1-4 bits per R/G/B gives horrible machbanding visible in almost any picture.
>5 bits per R/G/B (32768, 65000 colors) gives visible machbanding
>color-gradient picture has _almost_ no machbanding. This color-resolution is
>see some small machbanding on the smooth color-gradient picture, but all in all,
>There _ARE_ situiations where you get visible mach-banding even in
>a 24 bit card. If
>you create a very smooth color gradient of dark-green-white-yellow
>or something and turn
>up the contrast on the monitor, you will probably see some mach-banding.
While I don't mean to damn Henrik's attempt to be helpful here,
he's using a common misconception that should be corrected.
Mach banding will occur for any image. It is not the color
quantization you see when you don't have enough bits. It is the
human eye's response to transitions or edges between intensities.
The result is that colors near the transistion look brighter on
the brighter side and darker on the darker side.
--Andre
--
Andre Yew andrey@cco.caltech.edu (131.215.139.2)
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From: nrmendel@unix.amherst.edu (Nathaniel Mendell)
Subject: Re: Recommendation for a front tire.
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Lines: 11
Hey folks--
I've got a pair of Dunlop sportmax radials of my ZX-10, and they've been
very sticky (ie no slides yet), but all this talk about the Metzelers has
me wondering if my next set should be a Lazer comp K and a radial Metzeler
rear...for hard sport-touring, how do the choices stack up?
Nathaniel
ZX-10
DoD 0812
AMA
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From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Subject: Re: It's a rush... (was Re: Too fast)
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Lines: 40
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Wharf Wrat rites:
>They were designed for speeds of upwards of 80 - I forget the
>exact spec - but for military vehicles. That's 80 in a 1958 Dodge
>Powerwagon. Not 80 in a 1993 Ford Taurus.
Ever' once in a while, you still see a reference to the super-
slab system as "Interstate and Defense Highways." But whether
the military has much of anything that goes 80 on the road is
another matter. A few of their most whomped-up diesel trucks,
maybe, load permitting. The military surplus stuff I've
driven -- "Jeep Classic" (Willys/Kaiser/AMC, pre-independent
suspension) and Power Wagons (Slant 6 in a crew-cab pickup)
weren't exactly congenial at highway speeds, and I wouldn't
swear any of them would do 80 except as a bedload on a semi.
You just gotta love the standard military tire, too, or at
least the one they used to use. Designed circa WW II as a
compromise between traction in icky sticky goo and longevity
on sharp rocks and so forth, it's quite ill-adapted to high
speeds on civilian roadways. For those who can't remember
what they look like, imagine a mountain-bike tire with a
road rib in the middle, scaled up to car size. Oh, yeah, and
narrow too. One of the standard mods for civilizing a surplus
Jeep was to install tires and wheels that reflected some of
the advancements made in ride and handling since D-Day.
But the point made by Wharfie and others still stands: if
you're going to do 80 in a mil-spec '58 Power Wagon (or a
Jeep or a tank transporter or other unwieldy rubber-tired
vehicle) anywhere, I'd suggest the American interstate.
Your safe speed there tends to be limited more by your car
and skills, road maintenance, and the swarms of fools around
you; the roads were designed for going like the devil.
Naturally, neither I nor my employer advocates unsafe or
unlawful driving.
--Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
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From: tomj@pnet16.cts.com (Tom Jenkins)
Subject: LCIII vs. Centris 610?
Organization: People-Net [pnet16], NCTAMS EASTPAC
Lines: 8
Title says it all. I'd be particularly interested in the performance
difference. Just how much faster (50%?) is the Centris 610 over the LCIII?
--Tom
UUCP: humu!nctams1!pnet16!tomj
ARPA: humu!nctams1!pnet16!tomj@nosc.mil
INET: tomj@pnet16.cts.com
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From: brians@atlastele.com (Brian Sheets)
Subject: Constitutionality of 18 U.S.C 922(o)
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.
Disclaimer: Views expressed do not necessarily represent those of my employer.
Distribution: usa
Lines: 28
You know, I was reading 18 U.S.C. 922 and something just did not make
sence and I was wondering if someone could help me out.
Say U.S.C. 922 :
(1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for
any person to transfer or possess a machinegun.
Well I got to looking in my law dictionary and I found that a "person"
might also be an artificial entity that is created by government
and has no rights under the federal constitution. So, what I
don't understand is how a statute like 922 can be enforced on
an individual. So someone tell me how my government can tell
me what I can or cannot possess. Just passing a law
does not make it LAW. Everyone knows that laws are constitional
until it goes to court. So, has it ever gone to court, not
just your run of the mill "Ok I had it I am guilty, put me in jail"
Has anyone ever claimed that they had a right to possess and was told
by the Supreme Court that they didn't have that right?
--
Brian Sheets _ /| "TRUCK?! What truck?"
Support Engineer \`o_O'
Atlas Telecom Inc. ( ) -Raiders of the Lost Ark
brians@atlastele.com U
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From: prg@mgweed!mgwhiz.att.com (Phil Gunsul)
Subject: Re: Let's Talk Phillies
Organization: AT&T Information Systems
Lines: 33
In article <1993Apr16.060540.27397@adobe.com>, snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
| In article <1993Apr15.232551.14817@leland.Stanford.EDU> eechen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Emery Ethan Chen) writes:
| >One phrase for you....&%#! YOU!!!!
| >Thanks.
|
| Perhaps it's time to start rec.sport.baseball.graffiti, where the kiddies
| can go yell taunts and insults at each other and leave the rest of us in
| peace.
|
| Sherri Nichols
| snichols@adobe.com
Well Sherri, I'd agree with you except that most 'kiddies' have more sense than
to spew their obscenities in front of a group of adults..
I try to edit this newsgroup and feed it to one of the local elementary schools,
they have a group of students that just love baseball and are learning to use
computers, but I'm telling you, it's gotten to the point that I don't even edit
the files anymore, just read them and throw out the trash... And thanks to all
you people that think it's wonderful to include a swear word or two in your
signature files, that's really nice... I have to read the whole article and
then toss it out because of the .sig. Don't get me wrong, I know all the words you
do, (and I've even made up some of my own!) or I wouldn't be able to edit them out ;^)
but this just doesn't seem to be the place, a public forum, to spew foul language,
sorry..
Thanks to all you people that keep in mind, there might be some decent, young
people, interested in baseball and computers reading this newsgroup.. They enjoy
your articles.
Phil
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From: daa7365@tamuts.tamu.edu (Diego A. Aranda)
Subject: Windows Shareware Monthly (INFORMATION)
Article-I.D.: tamsun.1ps35rINNfpd
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
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NNTP-Posting-Host: tamuts.tamu.edu
Windows Shareware Monthly (WSM) is an on-line forum for information about the
newest and best Windows 3.x and NT shareware/freeware software.
WSM is a compilation of submissions from shareware/freeware authors in a single
Windows .HLP (Help System) file. All types of software may be submitted for
entry in WSM - utilities, applications, games, programming tools, etc.
WSM benefits Windows shareware/freeware authors by allowing them to publicize
their software releases, inform users of updated versions, and to increase
their installed base of users. Those searching for specific Windows software
will benefit by having a complete list of available software available at their
fingertips - complete with feature lists, current prices, and any other
relevant information.
Windows software authors may submit entries to Windows Shareware Monthly in the
following manner:
1. Compose a short summary of the function of the software. Include all
special features which are unique to your product and which set it apart
from other programs in the genre. Be sure to include specific details
such as: the current release version, where the software is available,
how much the registration fee costs, how much disk space is required, any
special requirements (e.g. sound card, or VBRUN200.DLL, etc.), how the
author may be contacted, etc. Because text is highly compressible, the
summary may be as long as is necessary, however, it is best to keep it
short. A good guideline is a single screenful of 12-point text at 640x480
resolution. Order forms and other such addendum may be included if desired.
All submissions whould be in plain text (ASCII) format. Formatting will
be exactly as it is submitted - I will simply cut and paste text files
into a Help Authoring system. If you require special formatting
conventions - such as boldface text or italics, or a larger font size,
indicate so CLEARLY within the text file. For best results, use Windows
NotePad to create the .TXT file.
2. Include up to 100k of Windows-format .BMP (bitmap) screen-shots which
display the workings or special features of each program. Special cases
(rendering applications for example) which require 256-color bitmaps may
submit up to 250k of .BMP files - all other should observe the 100k limit
and use 16-color format. For maximum compatiblity with the software which
will be used to create the WSM .HLP file (Stefan Olson's Help Writer's
Assistant for Windows), please save the bitmaps with Windows Paintbrush or
WinGIF.
3. Include a 16-color .BMP of the program's icon (.ICO file). Many programs
are available to convert .ICO to .BMP format, or Windows Paintbrush may be
used. The .BMP will be embedded in the summary text.
4. Double-check for spelling errors, formatting corrections, etc.
5. Compress the .TXT file, the .BMP of the program icon, and any additional
.BMPs into a single file using PKZIP (any version).
6. Submit the entry by UUENCODING the .ZIPfile, and e-mailing it to:
DAA7365@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU
if submitting via the Internet or Compuserve. If submitting via America
Online, send a brief message indicating submission, and append the .ZIP
file, then e-mail to:
DiegoAA
7. If any changes are required, or a new version is released, complete
the above procedures again. Send all submissions to the @TAMUTS address,
and any comments, suggestions, criticisms, to DAA7365@RIGEL.TAMU.EDU.
All entries received before the deadline will be included in the subsequent
edition of WSM. The editor will not be held responsible for any errors, and
we reserve the right to make changes to the entries.
WSM is not limited to shareware/freeware software. A special area will be
devoted to commercially available Windows 3.x and NT software. Commercial
software authors should follow the same steps above, with the exception of
the limitations on size - the .TXT file and .BMPs may be as large as required
(and as large as is practical for transmission over phone lines). There
is no charge for the publishing of either shareware/freeware or commercial
product entries.
Advertisements for computer hardware, software, bulletin boards, etc. may
be submitted as well. Again, the same procedures apply, with the exception of
the size limitations. There is no charge for advertising space. The first
ten advertisements submitted each month will be included; subsequent
submissions will not be included due to size constraints.
WSM is currently looking for persons willing to devote the time to author
columns within WSM. A C/C++ programing section, a Visual Basic section, and
two Windows-specific opinion/advice columns are envisioned. All work will
be on a voluntary basis. If you wish to aid WSM and author a monthly column
on one of the above topics, please send us mail at DAA7365@TAMUTS.TAMU.EDU or
DiegoAA on America Online.
The first edition of WSM will be distributed May 1st via America Online,
Compuserve, and the Internet. The deadline for submissions is April 28th.
The first edition filename will be WSM-1.ZIP, with each subsequent monthly
release continuing in the series naming convention (WSM-2.ZIP, etc.). Each
edition will be released on the first of each month, and the deadline for
submission will be at least three days before release.
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From: olson@umbc.edu (Bryan Olson; CMSC)
Subject: Re: WH proposal from Police point of view
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Lines: 30
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc7.umbc.edu
X-Auth-User: olson
In article <1993Apr18.034352.19470@news.clarkson.edu>, tuinstra@sunspot.ece.clarkson.edu.soe (Dwight Tuinstra) writes:
|> It might pay to start looking at what this proposal might mean to a
|> police agency. It just might be a bad idea for them, too.
|>
|> OK, suppose the NY State Police want to tap a suspect's phone. They
|> need a warrant, just like the old days. But unlike the old days, they
|> now need to
|>
|> (a) get two federal agencies to give them the two parts of
|> the key.
|>
|> Now, what happens if there's a tiff between the two escrow houses?
|> Posession/release of keys becomes a political bargaining chit.
While I think it is unrealistic to suppose that the federal
agencies will fail to promptly comply with a court order, there is
still a good point here. Local law enforcement will be unable to perform
a wiretap without bringing in federal agencies. Based on the (possibly
incomplete) understanding of the system quoted from D. Denning, only the
FBI will be able to decrypt the system key encryption layer, which seems
to be needed even to identify what escrowed keys to request. This moves
a great deal of law enforcement power to the federal level.
The reason I like this point is that it may sway or even persuade
people who don't generally line up with the civil liberties crowd. A
national police force is opposed by people from a broad range of political
viewpoints.
olson@umbc.edu
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From: barrett@lucy.ee.und.ac.za (Alan Barrett)
Subject: Re: White House Public Encryption Management Fact Sheet
Organization: Elec. Eng., Univ. Natal, Durban, S. Africa
Lines: 19
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: lucy.ee.und.ac.za
In article <C5LGAz.250@dove.nist.gov>,
clipper@csrc.ncsl.nist.gov (Clipper Chip Announcement) writes:
> Distribution: na
No thanks. This topic is of interest to a much wider audience.
> In making this decision, I do
> not intend to prevent the private sector from developing, or the
> government from approving, other microcircuits or algorithms that
> are equally effective in assuring both privacy and a secure key-
> escrow system.
"In making this decision, I intend to prevent the private sector from
developing, except with the government's approval, other microcircuits
or algorithms that are more effective in assuring privacy."
--apb
Alan Barrett, Dept. of Electronic Eng., Univ. of Natal, Durban, South Africa
RFC822: barrett@ee.und.ac.za
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From: mserv@mozart.cc.iup.edu (Mail Server)
Subject: Re: So far so good
Lines: 16
>>This may be a really dumb one, but I'll ask it anyways:
>> Christians know that they can never live up to the requirements of
>>God, right? (I may be wrong, but that is my understanding) But they still
>>try to do it. Doesn't it seem like we are spending all of our lives
>>trying to reach a goal we can never achieve? I know that we are saved by
>>faith and not by works, but does that mean that once we are saved we don't
>>have to do anything? I think James tells us that Faith without works is
>>dead (paraphrase). How does this work?
Short reply: We can never achieve perfect health, yet we always strive for it.
We don't seek to do God's will because we're forced to, we follow His way
because His way is best. The reason it's hard is because we are flawed, not
because He's unreasonable. But we seek to follow His way because we want to
improve ourselves and our lives.
- Mark
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From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
Subject: Re: I thought commercial Advertising was Not allowed
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: na
Lines: 47
In <C50sJG.3Eu@voder.nsc.com> matt@galaxy.nsc.com (Matt Freivald x8043) writes:
>In article 164633 in talk.politics.misc, bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw) writes:
>>>>And Ms. Regard, please don't give us the trite "you can't legislate
>>>>morality" nonsense again: there is little else that is legislated,
>>>>including the moral concept of "rights".
>>Really? Pure Socialism had this belief, and fell flat on its ass by
>>attempting to follow such reasoning. Suppose you pass a law that
>>states that I must love my neighbour, regardless of race, religion,
>>etc. How exactly do you plan to enforce such a law? Better yet, how
>>do you plan to measure compliance? And even if you overcome those
>>two obstacles, how will you ever know if I have become *more moral*
>>or not?
>You either missed the point or are being somewhat disingenuous; I have
>never heard anyone suggest that you can legislate what people think.
>Laws are based on either expediency (i.e. traffic laws) or morality (i.e.
>human rights), as far as I can tell, and the majority are based on the
>latter.
Once more around the racetrack. See the original statement that it is
nonsense to believe that you cannot legislate morality. I simply stated
that they can pass all the laws they want but not a single one of them
will make you or I more moral people. They may make us act in a moral
manner, but our actions are only a reflection of the unwillingness to
risk punishment. They say nothing about whether we have become more
moral or not. Perhaps the distinction is too fine.
>Matt Freivald
TOG
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "I'm not a feminist -- I'm for equal rights!"
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one!
> If you don't believe in slavery, don't own one!
> If you don't believe in murder, don't commit one!
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Pro CHILD. Pro FAMILY. Pro LIFE.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>THESE ARE MY OPINIONS ONLY AND NOT THOSE OF MY EMPLOYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: smythw@vccsouth23.its.rpi.edu (William Smythe)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Nntp-Posting-Host: vccsouth23.its.rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: na
Lines: 29
In article <1qsip1INNnj2@dns1.NMSU.Edu> amolitor@nmsu.edu (Andrew Molitor) writes:
>al@escom.COM (Al Donaldson) writes:
>>amolitor@nmsu.edu (Andrew Molitor) writes:
> This appears to be generic calling upon the name of the anti-christ.
>Just for the hell of it, let's destroy this remark. Let us imagine that
>the executive branch actually could extract keys from the escrow houses
>without anyone knowing, or telling. Now what? Dick has 80 bits of data.
>What the hell's he gonna do with it?
>
> 1) Trot around to the telco and say 'we'd like an unauthorised
>decrypting tap'. Uh huh.
> 2) Break in to watergate and install his own tap (so his people still
>do have to break in, neat, huh?) record some noise, then get the Executive
>Branch Phone Decryption Box (huh? they've got one? Goodness, wait 'til the
>washington post gets hold of this) and decrypt the noise.
> 3) More likely, stare at the key, and say 'Oh, hell it's not
>worth all this bloody hassle'
No, he gives the keys to the FBI (who may then give them to the local police
on request) who then simply put some alagator clips on your phone junction
box and conduct an illegal tap. They then decrypt when they recover the tape.
Its just doing what the government does best: breaking the law.
Bill Smythe
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From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Lines: 18
In article <1qpg8fINN982@dns1.NMSU.Edu> amolitor@nmsu.edu (Andrew Molitor) writes:
>Yes, those evil guys in the FBI can probably, with some
>effort, abuse the system. I got news for you, if the evil guys in
>the FBI decide they want to persecute you, they're gonna, and you're
>gonna hate it. Fact is, the FBI doesn't want to listen to your phone
>calls, and if they do, and if you're using triple-DES, they'll just
>get a parabolic microphone and point it at your head.
Just because they can do it anyway, somehow, does not mean it is smart to make
the job easier for them.
--
"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Leftover Turkey!
On the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Turkey Casserole
that she made from Leftover Turkey.
[days 3-4 deleted] ... Flaming Turkey Wings! ...
-- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu/A*gic bait)
Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
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From: Patrick C Leger <pl1u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: It's all Mary's fault!
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 23
NNTP-Posting-Host: po5.andrew.cmu.edu
You know, it just occurred to me today that this whole Christian thing
can be blamed solely on Mary.
So, she's married to Joseph. She gets knocked up. What do you think
ol' Joe will do if he finds she's been getting around? So Mary comes up
with this ridiculous story about God making her pregnant. Actually, it
can't be all THAT ridiculous, considering the number of people that
believe it. Anyway, she never tells anyone the truth, and even tells
poor little Jesus that he's hot shit, the Son of God. Everyone else
tells him this too, since they've bought Mary's story. So, what does
Mary actually turn out to be? An adultress and a liar, and the cause of
mankind's greatest folly...
Just my recently-minted two cents.
Chris
----------------------
Chris Leger
Sophomore, Carnegie Mellon Computer Engineering
Remember...if you don't like what somebody is saying, you can always
ignore them!
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From: tas@pegasus.com (Len Howard)
Subject: Re: quality control in medicine
Summary: Kaiser has been doing it for a while
Article-I.D.: pegasus.1993Apr22.221508.10196
Organization: Pegasus, Honolulu
Lines: 14
In article <93108.003258U19250@uicvm.uic.edu> <U19250@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Does anybody know of any information regarding the implementaion of total
> quality management, quality control, quality assurance in the delivery of
> health care service. I would appreciate any information. If there is enough
>interest, I will post the responses.
> Thank You
> Abhin Singla MS BioE, MBA, MD
> President AC Medcomp Inc
Dr Singla, you might contact Kaiser Health Plan either in the area
closest to you or at the central office in Oakland CA. We have been
doing QA, QoS, concurrent UR, and TQM for some time now in the Hawaii
Region, and I suspect it is nationwide in the system.
Len Howard MD
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From: holland@CS.ColoState.EDU (douglas craig holland)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Distribution: na
Nntp-Posting-Host: beethoven.cs.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department
Lines: 40
In article <bontchev.735404289@fbihh> bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de writes:
>andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson) writes:
>
>> methods. ``This year's crime bill will have teeth, not bare gums,''
>> Clinton said. In particular, his administration will place strict
>> controls on data formats and protocols, and require the registration
>> of so-called ``cryptographic keys,'' in the hope of denying drug
>> dealers the ability to communicate in secret. Clinton said the
>> approach could be used for crackdowns on other forms of underground
>> economic activity, such as ``the deficit-causing tax evaders who
>> live in luxury at the expense of our grandchildren.''
>
>And some people thought that I am exaggerating when claiming that the
>Cripple Chip is just a first step in a totalitarian plot against the
>civil liberties in the USA... It seems that I've even been an optimist
>- the things are happening even faster than I expected.... That's
>another of the dirty tricks they used to apply on us under the
>communist regime - do something secret, THEN tell the people about is
>(after the fact, when nothing can be done any more), and of course,
>explaining them how much better the situation is now...
>
>In my previous messages I wrote that the Americans should wake up and
>fight against the new proposal. Now it seems to me that it is already
>too late - it has already happened, the civil liberties have been
>violated, no, stollen from the American people, while the most part of
>this people has been sleeping happily... :-((( Too sad...
>
I'm definitely going to write my Congressman, and nobody's ever
going to make me respect a law that violates my freedom of speech, and
if the feds try to enforce this law on me, I will protect my freedoms, with
force if it ever comes to that. (Hopefully, it won't)
Doug Holland
--
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| Doug Holland | Anyone who tries to take away my freedom |
| holland@cs.colostate.edu | of speech will have to pry it from my |
| PGP key available by E-mail | cold, dead lips!! |
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From: lloyd@uclink.berkeley.edu (Lloyd Nebres)
Subject: Re: MARLINS WIN! MARLINS WIN!
Article-I.D.: 128.lloyd-060493114752
Distribution: world
Organization: UC Berkeley
Lines: 14
NNTP-Posting-Host: tol3mac15.soe.berkeley.edu
>>(Look at all that Teal!!!! BLEAH!!!!!!!!!)
Indeed, if the color teal on a team's uniforms is any indication of the
future, the Marlins are in dire trouble! Refer to the San Jose Sharks for
proof... But I have hope for the Marlins. I was a sometime member of the
Rene Lachemann fan club at the Oakland Coliseum, and have a deep respect
for the guy. He's a gem. And, of course, Walt Weiss gives that franchise
class. But yeah... whoever designed those uniforms was guilty of a paucity
of style and imagination. Ugghhh!
Lloyd R. Nebres, UC Berkeley
Internet: lloyd@uclink.berkeley.edu
Vox: (510) 848-9760 or 643-9390
"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a 747 carrying a ton of CD-ROMs..."
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From: bwee@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Boon-khim Wee)
Subject: Looking for Battletech Games on PC
Distribution: y
Nntp-Posting-Host: midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Keywords: btech
Lines: 9
I am interested in both the battletech games for the ibm pc.
I will be grateful to anymore with information. Please email me if you
would like to do my transaction. Thank you.!
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Subject: Giants Win The Pennant!!!!
From: mrosales@koko.csustan.edu (Maria Rosales)
Distribution: usa
Organization: CSU Stanislaus
Lines: 4
Giants Win the Pennant!! Giants Win the Pennant !! Gi... OOOPS
I guess I'm a little early here...
See you in October...
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From: James Edward Burns <ddujeb@arco.com>
Subject: Re: SUPER MEGA AUTOMOBILE SIGHTING(s)!!!!! Exotics together!
X-Xxdate: Tue, 20 Apr 93 00:07:01 GMT
Organization: ARCO Long Beach Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d15
Lines: 14
In article <1qvgg3INNl0r@phantom.gatech.edu>
Graham E. Thomas, grahamt@phantom.gatech.edu
writes: > Alright, beat this automobile
sighting.
I can top that one. Friday afternoon 4-16-93 I
look out my window in Long Beach CA. What do I
see but the new Ferrari. I looks like a mix
between the ragtop testarossa (sp?) and the batman
car. It seems Ferrari had their Annual dinner
at the place downstairs. Sweet car.
J.B.
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From: teama@bucknell.edu (meyers@bucknell.edu)
Subject: Doug Sturm
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
Lines: 3
Is anyone familiar with Doug Sturm?
If so, please post what you think.
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From: jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Tape Backup Question
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
X-Posted-From: asteroid.msi.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu
Lines: 18
Hello folks!
I have an Archive XL5580 (internal QIC-80) tape drive, which is pretty
comparable to the Colorado Jumbo 250. Since I have two floppy drives in
my system, I'm using a small card (not accelerated) made by Archive to
attach my tape drive as a third floppy device.
The problem: Although the DOS-based QICstream software works just fine,
both the Norton and Central Point backup programs for Windows fail unless
I switch the machine to non-turbo speed (I'm using a 486DX/33 EISA). Since
the DOS software works, it can't be a hardware problem, can it? Has anyone
seen similar problems? Any solutions? Thanks in advance.
--
+-------------------+----------------------------+---------------------------+
| JERRY J. SHEKHEL | Molecular Simulations Inc. | Time just fades the pages |
| Drummers do it... | Burlington, MA USA | in my book of memories. |
| ... In rhythm! | jerry@msi.com | -- Guns N' Roses |
+-------------------+----------------------------+---------------------------+
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From: andrei@labomath.univ-orleans.fr (Andrei Yakovlev)
Subject: How to program a PC Keyboard itself?
Organization: University of Orleans, France.
Lines: 17
Hi All,
I have heard that somewhere there exist programmable keyboards, eg. one
can program displays on the keys to show some specific characters, et.c.
Does it mean that there is some way of transmitting some "non-trivial" data
to the KB (as opposed to standard NumLock/... On-Off, typeamatic specs.) from
inside the PC software? I have not found any corresponding reference in the
specs for the 8042 PC-KB interface. Anyone have any ideas? (Except that they
may encode data by the sequences of the standard commands mentioned above,
which wouldn't look too neat, besides, what would one do from an XT?)
Great thanks in advance,
Andrew.
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From: Michael Robert Peck <mp5j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: 800x600 video on a IIci?
Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 6
NNTP-Posting-Host: po4.andrew.cmu.edu
What do I need to do to be able to run an NEC 3FGx in 800x 600 mode
on my IIci? Can it be done with the right video card? If so, which
video card?
-Michael
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From: JEK@cu.nih.gov
Subject: Paul on weekly collections
Lines: 15
Mark Gregory Foster writes (concerning 1 Corinthians 16:2):
> The idea was introduced to me once that the reason Paul wanted
> the Corinthians to lay aside money for the collection on the
> first day of the week was that this was when they received their
> weekly wages.
But the ancient Romans did not observe a seven-day week. Unless a
man was working for a Jewish employer, he is unlikely to have been
paid on the first day of a seven-day week. Nor would a Jewish
employer have kept his wages over the week-end (see Lev 19:13; Dt
24:15).
Yours,
James Kiefer
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From: thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: MARLINS WIN! MARLINS WIN!
Article-I.D.: midway.1993Apr6.214406.29128
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
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In article <lloyd-060493114752@128.32.250.77> lloyd@uclink.berkeley.edu (Lloyd Nebres) writes:
>>>(Look at all that Teal!!!! BLEAH!!!!!!!!!)
>
>Indeed, if the color teal on a team's uniforms is any indication of the
>future, the Marlins are in dire trouble! Refer to the San Jose Sharks for
>proof... But I have hope for the Marlins. I was a sometime member of the
>Rene Lachemann fan club at the Oakland Coliseum, and have a deep respect
>for the guy. He's a gem. And, of course, Walt Weiss gives that franchise
>class. But yeah... whoever designed those uniforms was guilty of a paucity
>of style and imagination. Ugghhh!
Maybe I'm just a child of the 80's, but I really liked the Marlins' uniforms.
The helmets shine nicely in the sun. It's enough to make me a fan.
--
ted frank | "However Teel should have mentioned that though
thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu | his advice is legally sound, if you follow it
the u of c law school | you will probably wind up in jail."
standard disclaimers | -- James Donald, in misc.legal
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From: wayne@uva386.schools.virginia.edu (Tony Wayne)
Subject: Pink Noise
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Charlottesville)
Lines: 4
What is Pink noise and how is it used in sound experiments?
-tony
wayne@uva386.schools.virginia.edu
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From: pete@smtl.demon.co.uk (Pete Phillips)
Subject: Nebulisers and particle Size
X-Address: Bridgend, S. Wales, CF31 1JP
Reply-To: pete@smtl.demon.co.uk
Organization: Surgical Materials Testing Laboratory
X-Fax: +44 656 667291
X-Phone: +44 656 652166
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Hi,
we are just completing a project on nebuliser performance, and have a
wealth of data on particle size and output which we are going to use
to adjudicate a contract next week.
Although the output data is easy for us to present, there seems to be
little concensus on the optimum diameter of the nebulised droplets for
straightforward inhalation therapy (eg: for asthmatics).
Some say that the droplets must be smaller than 5 microns, whilst
others say that if they are too small they will not be effective.
Anyone up on this topic who could summarise the current status ?
Cheers,
Pete
--
Pete Phillips, Deputy Director, Surgical Materials Testing Lab,
Bridgend General Hospital, S. Wales. 0656-652166 pete@smtl.demon.co.uk
--
"The Four Horse Oppressors of the Apocalypse were Nutritional
Deprivation, State of Belligerency, Widespread Transmittable Condition
and Terminal Inconvenience" - Official Politically Correct Dictionary
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From: kme@node_17aa4.bnr.ca (Ken Michael Edwards)
Subject: Re: Economic Stimulus or Pork?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Research Triangle Park, NC
Lines: 73
In article <1993Apr2.201514.20021@isc-br.isc-br.com>, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes:
|>
|> In fact, no one has such a list. The Clinton package as presently proposed
|> includes a variety of recommended spending areas and dollar amounts. It
|> does not include a line-by-line list of every project that would be funded.
|> (Congress may include such line items in the bill when it passes.
|> Likewise, it may prohibit spending for specific projects as amendments to
|> the bill. Such amendments, positive and negative, are often pointed to
|> by those who propose a "line item veto" or "enhanced recision" power for
|> the President.)
|>
|> Some of the $16 billion package is in the form of "block grants" to states
|> and localities.
This is why I asked to be 'enlightened'. You are making claims about what
'is' or 'is not' part of this program. But if the "block grants" go to states
and cities, the mayors list is VERY relivent.
|>
|> I'd suggest contacting your local officials, reading a newspaper with
|> good coverage of Congress (Washington Post, NY Times), or if you're
|> serious about paying attention to these issues, get copies of Congressional
|> Quarterly at your library or have your representative put you on the
|> mailing list for the Congressional Record. (It's free.) But be prepared
|> to invest more time in the effort than it takes to watch the evening
|> news or read your local paper.
Okay scarasm does deserve sacrasm, but I already contact my local officals, my
congress rep., senators, Watch evening news, news programs, and C-SPAN.
|>
|> In addition to the cherry picking that went on with the Mayors' wish list,
|> Congressional Republicans selected wish list projects from a variety of
|> Federal agencies, based apparently upon how silly the names of the projects
|> sounded. I'm not even sure if they bothered to correlate a potential
|> expenditure of an agency in Clinton's bill with a potential project from
|> the same agency, but it is clear that the effort was to make Clinton's
|> potential expenditures appear to be linked to projects with absurd
|> names. (Not to be taken seriously any more than equivalent tactics by
|> Democrats would have been in the Reagan/Bush era.)
The fact is that Primetime (TM of ABC) has had numberous reposts on such waste
programs that already exist. Again, if we are truely intrested in eliminating
the DEBT, we must REMOVE the DEFICIT, and do away with ALL PORK !!!
|>
|> I realize that it is tempting to believe that government is in the hands
|> of clowns who are dishonest at best. But such simplistic analysis does
|> little to advance the cause of public education.
There have been several books written on gov. waste, network news programs
from time to time devote segments to this, and there have been bills proposed
that significantly reduces expenditures without touching external programs by
changing the way 'congress does business' (and make it more efficent).
True, blame is easy, but also is spending someone else's money.
Clinton ran on a platform that he would '...not raise taxes on the middle class
to pay for these (his) programs'. He has proposed a program that is not
specific, that counts on tax hikes to pay for.
--
======================================================================
Ken M. Edwards, Bell Northern Research, Research Triangle Park, NC
(919) 481-8476 email: cnc23a@bnr.ca Ham: N4ZBB
All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of
my employer or co-workers, family, friends, congress, or president.
"You'd better call my dad...My mom's pretty busy."
- Chelsea Clinton
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From: tobias@convex.com (Allen Tobias)
Subject: Re: Comments on a 1984 Honda Interceptor 1000?
Nntp-Posting-Host: hydra.convex.com
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
not necessarily those of CONVEX.
Lines: 27
In article <19APR93.15421177@skyfox> howp@skyfox writes:
>Hi.
> I am considering the purchase of a 1984 Honda 1000cc Interceptor for
>$2095 CDN (about $1676 US). I don't know the mileage on this bike, but from
>the picture in the 'RV Trader' magazine, it looks to be in good shape.
>Can anybody enlighten me as to whether this is a good purchase? Is it a
>good bike? This will be my first bike. (I realize that, for a beginner,
>1000cc is considered too be a bit too much bike. I have heard from friends
>that were once beginners that if they had to start all over again that they
>would have started with a bigger bike. One just has to be careful and not
>drive outside their skill level.)
> I had considered (and posted about two weeks ago) the purchase of 1982
>600cc Yamaha Seca Turbo with 33000 km, but I am a little wary now about the
>prospect of having to deal with a turbo (both on the road and in the shop). I
>may still consider this bike (the price dropped from $1300 to $1100 CDN), but
>the Honda seems to be a good bike.
>
> Comments?
>
One word "HEAVY". It steers heavy, turns require alot of effort. Hard to get
access to the large V-4 motor. Weak/small front forks with anti-dive gizmos!
AT
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From: channui@austin.ibm.com (Christopher Chan-Nui)
Subject: Re: Two pointing devices in one COM-port?
Reply-To: channui@austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Austin
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
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Bob Davis (sonny@trantor.harris-atd.com) wrote:
: In article <C4tKGM.1v6@unix.portal.com>, wil@shell.portal.com (Ville V Walveranta) writes:
: |>
: |> Is there any way to connect two pointing devices to one serial
: |> port? I haven't tried this but I believe they would interfere
: |> with each other (?) even if only one at a time would be used.
: Just get an A-B switch for RS232. Look in Computer Shopper.
: They are available fairly cheap. They allow switching between two
: serial devices on a single port.
Unfortunately the poster wants to use an internal and an external modem so a
switch isn't going to help them. If you aren't using your com ports for
anything else, just define them on different com ports. Define your internal
modem to be say, com1, and your external modem to be com3. You really
shouldn't have to worry about interrupt conflicts since you won't be using
both modems at the same time :).
---
Christopher Chan-Nui | Investment in reliability will increase until it
channui@austin.ibm.com | exceeds the probable cost of errors, or until someone
#include <disclaimer.h> | insists on getting some useful work done.
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Subject: What are knots?
From: ng4@husc11.harvard.edu (Ho Leung Ng)
Nntp-Posting-Host: husc11.harvard.edu
Lines: 8
What exactly are knots, those sore, tight spots in your muscles?
In certain kinds of massage, people try and break up these knots; it this
really helpful?
Ho Leung Ng
ng4@husc.harvard.edu
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From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Subject: Re: Countersteering, to know or not to know - what is the question?
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University
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Distribution: net
NNTP-Posting-Host: laura.harvard.edu
In-reply-to: mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk's message of Wed, 21 Apr 1993 12:30:30 GMT
>>>>> On Wed, 21 Apr 1993 12:30:30 GMT, mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk (Mike Sixsmith) said:
Mike> lotto@husc4.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
Me> The understanding and ability to swerve was essentially absent among
Me> the accident-involved riders in the Hurt study.
Mike> I would agree entirely with these three paragraphs. But did the Hurt
Mike> study make any distinction between an *ability* to swerve and a *failure*
Mike> to swerve?
Yes, it was specifically the *ability* or understanding of the
technique which was absent. We have made a lot of progress between
rider education and responsibility over the last ten-twenty years...
but I am still amazed anytime I teach an ERC how many people of many
year riding experience "discover" countersteering for cornering or
swerving.
Mike> everything else. Hard braking and swerving tend to be mutually exclusive
Mike> manouvres - did Hurt draw any conclusions on which one is generally
Mike> preferable?
The specific recommandation cited in the Hurt study was that a formal
"street strategy", like SIPDE for example, was the most important
component of any rider education curriculum. The specific skills of
emergency braking, cornering and swerving must be taught and practiced
as well, but more significant was that 35% of rider did NOTHING
confronted with a potential accident, and another third collided or
fell over as a result of rider error. The choice of specific maneuver
is much less significant to the outcome than early detection and
the proper execution of ANY effective countermeasure.
--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu> MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ. "It's my Harley, and I'll ride if I want to..."
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From: jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni)
Subject: Re: Unconventional peace proposal
Organization: The Department of Redundancy Department
Lines: 85
In article <1483500348@igc.apc.org> cpr@igc.apc.org (Center for Policy Research) writes:
>
>From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
>
>A unconventional proposal for peace in the Middle-East.
>---------------------------------------------------------- by
> Elias Davidsson
Of all the stupid postings you've brought here recently, it is
illuminating that you chose to put your own name on perhaps the
stupidest of them.
>The following proposal is based on the following assumptions:
>
>1. Fundamental human rights, such as the right to life, to
>education, to establish a family and have children, to human
>dignity, the right to free movement, to free expression, etc. are
>more important to human existence that the rights of states.
Does this mean that you are calling for the dismantling of the Arab
states?
>2. In the event of a conflict between basic human rights and
>rights of collectivities, basic human rights should prevail.
Apparently, your answer is yes.
>6. Attempts to solve the Israeli-Arab conflict by traditional
>political means have failed.
Attempts to solve these problem by traditional military means and
non-traditional terrorist means has also failed. But that won't stop
them from trying again. After all, it IS a Holy War, you know....
>7. As long as the conflict is perceived as that between two
>distinct ethnical/religious communities/peoples which claim the
>land, there is no just nor peaceful solution possible.
"No just solution possible." How very encouraging.
>Having stated my assumptions, I will now state my proposal.
You mean that it gets even funnier?
>1. A Fund should be established which would disburse grants
>for each child born to a couple where one partner is Israeli-Jew
>and the other Palestinian-Arab.
[...]
>3. For the first child, the grant will amount to $18.000. For
>the second the third child, $12.000 for each child. For each
>subsequent child, the grant will amount to $6.000 for each child.
>
>4. The Fund would be financed by a variety of sources which
>have shown interest in promoting a peaceful solution to the
>Israeli-Arab conflict,
No, the Fund should be financed by the Center for Policy Research. It
IS a major organization, isn't it? Isn't it?
>5. The emergence of a considerable number of 'mixed'
>marriages in Israel/Palestine, all of whom would have relatives on
>'both sides' of the divide, would make the conflict lose its
>ethnical and unsoluble core and strengthen the emergence of a
>truly civil society.
Yeah, just like marriages among Arabs has strengthened their
societies.
>The existence of a strong 'mixed' stock of
>people would also help the integration of Israeli society into the
>Middle-East in a graceful manner.
The world could do with a bit less Middle Eastern "grace".
>Objections to this proposal will certainly be voiced. I will
>attempt to identify some of these:
Boy, you're a one-man band. Listen, if you'd like to Followup on your
own postings and debate with yourself, just tell us and we'll leave
you alone.
--
Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Ten years from now, George Bush will
American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
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From: pharvey@quack.kfu.com (Paul Harvey)
Subject: Re: An invisible God!
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Lines: 14
In article <1993Apr17.152833.7811@maths.tcd.ie>
pmoloney@maths.tcd.ie (Paul Moloney) writes:
>jmeritt@mental.MITRE.ORG (Jim Meritt - System Admin) writes:
>> God CAN be seen:
>> "And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts."
>Wot? God's a mooner?
Such lunacy!
>(Gee, maybe there's something in this Christianity thing after all -
>maybe God is John Belushi from "Animal House")
The SuperNatural One wants to have a personal relationship with you.
JHVH-1, come quick!
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From: saw8712@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Steve A. Ward)
Subject: Re: Mormon Temples
Organization: Boeing Computer Services
Lines: 25
mserv@mozart.cc.iup.edu (Mail Server) writes:
>One thing I don't understand is why being sacred should make the
>temple rituals secret.
On of the attributes of being sacred in this case is that they
should not be spoken of in a "common manner" or "trampled under
feet" such as the Lords name is today. The ceremonies are
performed in the temple because the temple has been set aside
as being as sacred/holy/uncommon place. We believe that the
ceremonies can only be interpreted correctly when they
are viewed with the right spirit- which in this case is in the
temple. So from our point of view, when they are brought
out into the public, they are being trampled under feet,
because of misinterpretations and mocking, and it is therefore
offensive to us.
Please do not assume that because of my use of the words
'we' and 'our' that I'm an official spokesman for the LDS
church. I am merely stating what I believe is the general
feeling among us. Others feel free to disagree.
--
Steve Ward
saw8712@bcstec.ca.boeing.com
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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Diamond Stealth 24 giving 9.4 Winmarks?
Organization: Mail Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Lines: 56
I have just installed a Diamond Stealth 24 ISA card in
a '486DX2-66 system with 256K cache, and 16 megs of memory,
that gets about a 126 SI 6.0 CPU Benchmark rating. Using
the 1024x768x16 color driver under Windows, I am getting a
Winbench Winmarks rating of only about 9.5 Million. Since
I have heard that others get 15-to-16 million for this card,
I assume that something is very wrong with my setup.
What are some possible causes of the card slowing down like this?
I ran the Qualitas ASQ diagnostic program on memory, and I noted
the following memory timings on my machine:
ASQ v1.30 by Qualitas SYSTEM ANALYSIS Mon Apr 19, 1993 11:43:49AM page: 1
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ACCESS TIMING
Hex KB KB Access Speed Ratio (%)
Start Start Size Time us 0 25 50 75 100
00000 0 32 396 ******************
00800 32 32 598 *****************
01000 64 32 157 ********************
01800 96 32 180 ********************
02000 128 64 157 ********************
03000 192 32 165 ********************
03800 224 128 156 ********************
05800 352 96 169 ********************
07000 448 32 153 ********************
07800 480 32 188 ********************
08000 512 96 158 ********************
09800 608 32 171 ********************
0A000 640 96 1221 **************
0B800 736 32 1581 ************
0C000 768 32 312 *******************
0C800 800 96 154 ********************
0E000 896 64 3957 *
0F000 960 64 312 *******************
Note two things on this chart:
1) The video memory appears to be many orders of magnitude slower than
system memory. Are there wait states being inserted here, and what would
cause that?
2) The EMS Page frame seems to be ridiculously slow, even though
it is being mapped to the fast XMS memory in my system through
EMM386. What's going on there?
Note that my Stealth 24's video BIOS at C000-C7FF is being shadowed
through the AMI BIOS.
Any ideas on what might be happening here?
--
Will Estes Internet: westes@netcom.com
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From: bbs.mirage@tsoft.net (Jerry Lee)
Subject: Cobra 2.0 1-b-1 Video card HELP ME!!!!
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Lines: 22
Does ANYONE out there in Net-land have any information on the Cobra 2.20
card? The sticker on the end of the card reads
Model: Cobra 1-B-1
Bios: Cobra v2.20
I Havn't been able to find anything about it from anyone! If you have
any information on how to get a hold of the company which produces the
card or know where any drivers are for it, PLEASE let me know!
As far as I can tell, it's a CGA card that is taking up 2 of my 16-bit
ISA slots but when I enable the test patterns, it displays much more than
the usualy 4 CGA colors... At least 16 from what I can count.. Thanks!
.------------------------------------------.
: Internet: jele@eis.calstate.edu :
: bbs.mirage@gilligan.tsoft.net :
: bbs.mirage@tsoft.sf-bay.org :
: mirage@thetech.com :
: UUCP : apple.com!tsoft!bbs.mirage :
`------------------------------------------'
Computer and Video Imaging Major
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From: joshua@cpac.washington.edu (Joshua Geller)
Subject: Re: Rosicrucian Order(s) ?!
Organization: Institute for the Study of Ancient Science
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In-reply-to: ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu's message of 17 Apr 1993 20:31:11 GMT
In article <1qppef$i5b@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
(Tony Alicea) writes:
> Kent:
> You say that
> >There are about 4-10 competing Rosicrucian orders existing today,
^^^^^^^^^
> >most of them are spin-offs from OTO and other competing organizations
> >from the 19th century France/Germany. Maybe I should write an article
> Please don't! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
huh? it might be interesting. he is relating the story as I have heard
it, btw.
> >about all this, I spent some time investigating these organizations
> >and their conceptual world view systems.
> Name just three *really* competing Rosicrucian Orders. I have
> probably spent more time than you doing the same.
> None of them are spin-offs from O.T.O. The opposite may be the
> case.
huh? care to back that up?
josh
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From: stssdxb@st.unocal.com (Dorin Baru)
Subject: Re: No land for peace - No negotiatians
Organization: Unocal Corporation
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hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes:
>Ok. I donot know why there are israeli voices against negotiations. However,
>i would guess that is because they refuse giving back a land for those who
>have the right for it.
Sounds like wishful guessing.
>As for the Arabian and Palestinean voices that are against the
>current negotiations and the so-called peace process, they
>are not against peace per se, but rather for their well-founded predictions
>that Israel would NOT give an inch of the West bank (and most probably the same
>for Golan Heights) back to the Arabs. An 18 months of "negotiations" in Madrid,
>and Washington proved these predictions. Now many will jump on me saying why
>are you blaming israelis for no-result negotiations.
>I would say why would the Arabs stall the negotiations, what do they have to
>loose ?
'So-called' ? What do you mean ? How would you see the peace process?
So you say palestineans do not negociate because of 'well-founded' predictions ?
How do you know that they are 'well founded' if you do not test them at the
table ? 18 months did not prove anything, but it's always the other side at
fault, right ?
Why ? I do not know why, but if, let's say, the Palestineans (some of them) want
ALL ISRAEL, and these are known not to be accepted terms by israelis.
Or, maybe they (palestinenans) are not yet ready for statehood ?
Or, maybe there is too much politics within the palestinean leadership, too many
fractions aso ?
I am not saying that one of these reasons is indeed the real one, but any of
these could make arabs stall the negotiations.
>Arabs feel that the current "negotiations" is ONLY for legitimizing the current
>status-quo and for opening the doors of the Arab markets for israeli trade and
>"oranges". That is simply unacceptable and would be revoked.
I like California oranges. And the feelings may get sharper at the table.
Regards,
Dorin
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From: mdpyssc@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (Sue Cunningham)
Subject: Fractals? What good are they ?
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre
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We have been using Iterated Systems compression board to compress
pathology images and are getting ratios of 40:1 to 70:1 without too
much loss in quality. It is taking about 4 mins per image to compress,
on a 25Mhz 486 but decompression is almost real time on a 386 in software
alone.
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From: swkirch@sun6850.nrl.navy.mil (Steve Kirchoefer)
Subject: Re: Can't Breathe
Article-I.D.: ra.C526Hv.LCL
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory (Electronics Science and Technology Division)
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Getting back to the original question in this thread:
I experienced breathing difficulties a few years ago similar to those
described. In my case, it turned out that I was developing Type I
diabetes. Although I never sought direct confirmation of this from my
doctor, I think that the breathing problem was associated with the
presence of ketones due to the diabetes.
I think that ketosis can occur in lesser degree if one is restricting
their food intake drastically. I don't know if this relevant in this
case, but you might ask your daughter if she has been eating
properly.
--
Steve Kirchoefer (202) 767-2862
Code 6851 kirchoefer@estd.nrl.navy.mil
Naval Research Laboratory Microwave Technology Branch
Washington, DC 20375-5000 Electronics Sci. and Tech. Division
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From: westerhold@batgirl.rtp.dg.com ()
Subject: wanted: mail order hockey equipment
Distribution: usa
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.
Lines: 11
Could anyone recommend a mail order distributor for
hockey equipment.
Thanks in Advance
Wayne
--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
< Wayne E. Westerhold wester@dg-rtp.dg.com >
< Data General Corporation Research Triangle Park, NC >
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Subject: Re: Cop kills teenager
From: kim39@scws8.harvard.edu (John Kim)
Organization: Harvard University Science Center
Keywords: handgun mace pepper-spray taser tasp phaser
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.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> holland@CS.ColoState.EDU (douglas craig holland) writes:
> SUSPENDED POLICE OFFICER ARRESTED IN REVENGE TRIPLE HOMICIDE
>
>PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) -- A police officer afraid he would be fired for
>allegedly assaulting a teen-ager walked into an auto body shop wher the youth
>worked, said "You're going to die" and fatally shot him and two others, police
>said.
>A fourth youth was wounded. A fifth escaped injury by hiding under a car.
>Suspended police officer Robert Sabetta, 23, of Cranston, was arrested at
>gunpoint over three hours after the shooting at Wilson's Auto Enterprises in
>Foster, a rural town of about 4,000 people in northwest Rhode Island.
> Doug Holland
>
I think I have updated info on this. My understandingis that
former officer Cranston approached a teenager who was being questioned
by another officer. Officer Cranston struck Teenager A in the head
with a heavy police flashlight, causing a significant, though not
life-threatening. THere is no evidence that Teenager A was
doing anything threatening at the time. Teenager A was released
on bail/recognizance and filed a formal complaint against Officer
Cranston. The Police Chief suspended Cranston pending an
investigation into the use of excessive force.
The above is pretty clear... but what seems to have
happened is this. The Chief requested Cranston's gun, but Cranston
refused to turn it over until the Chief went the Cranston's home
to get it. Sources said Cranston had always wanted to be
a cop and was very afraid of loosing his job because of the complaint
against him.
A few days afterward, Cranston allegedly walked into
Wilson's Garage, where Teenager A and friends were known to
hang out and work on cars as a hobby. Cranston fatally shot
Teenager A as well as TEenagers B and C. Teenager D was shot once
in the shoulder/chest. Teenager E was working under the car
and was not noticed by Officer Cranston. Teenager D went to a home
and summoned police, who went to Wilson's Garage and found the
3 corpses and one unscathed survivor.
A few days after his arrest, Officer Cranston attemped
to commit suicide in his cell.
-Case Kim
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From: aff209@tijc02.uucp (Ann Freeman )
Subject: Seeking user experience with X-based test tools
Organization: Siemens Industrial Automation, Johnson City TN
Distribution: net
Lines: 10
Does anyone have any experience using XRunner, CAPBAK/X, or PreVueX
as an automated test tool for X? Please email me directly with
opinions (both positive and negative).
Ann Freeman
Siemens Industrial Automation, Inc.
Johnson City, TN
aff209%tijc02@uunet.uu.net
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From: garym@cycle.mentorg.com (Gary Myron)
Subject: Re: Shipping a bike
Nntp-Posting-Host: cycle.mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords:
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> Can someone recommend how to ship a motorcycle from San Francisco
> to Seattle? And how much might it cost?
I shipped my K75S from Portland Oregon to Daytona for this years
bike week (I rode it back!). The company I used is The Federal Co's.
You can reach them at 1-800-747-4100 ex 214. You either have to be
a AMA member, or maybe it is just a discount for AMA, not sure.
(Call 1-800-AMA-JOIN to become an AMA member)
The shipping cost is based on the number of miles. It cost me about $500
for Portland to Orlando. $80 of that was insurance. All I had to do is
ride it to the shipping dock and siphon the gas out. I think they can
also pick up the bike from any business. The bike arrived on-time at
Orlando. All I had to do was adjust the mirrors and add gas. The bike
was in perfect shape!
--Gary
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From: tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
Subject: Re: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: na
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Well, it now seems obvious what Professor Denning was doing last fall
when this key escrow trial balloon was raised!
All the more need for end-to-end encryption schemes that bypass the
government-approved system.
By the way, the "Clipper" name...isn't this already used for the
Clipper processor from Intergraph? I doubt they're the ones making the
chip, so a name conflict may be present.
-Tim May
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408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets,
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Higher Power: 2^756839 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available.
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From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: Off the shelf cheap DES keyseach machine (Was: Re: Corporate acceptance of the wiretap chip)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Lines: 28
In article <1993Apr20.150531.2059@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jebright@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James R Ebright) writes:
> Now why is that? I doubt there is a trapdoor in Skipjack. (But we will
> never know). And I doubt the NSA would promote a mass market chip they
> couldn't compromise. Ergo, NSA is now capable of compromising (probably
> with brute force keysearch) engines of the complexity of Skipjack. Look
> at the specs. Why, I bet they have thousands of little chips chugging
> away in their crypto busters... Maybe even tens of thousands. Complexity?
> Not much more than a 3090. How many such machines will fit into Fort Meade?
> I think PGP2.3 should have 256 bit IDEA keys...
Thousands? Tens of thousands? Do some arithmetic, please... Skipjack
has 2^80 possible keys. Let's assume a brute-force engine like that
hypothesized for DES: 1 microsecond per trial, 1 million chips. That's
10^12 trials per second, or about 38,000 years for 2^80 trials. Well,
maybe they can get chips running at one trial per nanosecond, and build
a machine with 10 million chips. Sure -- only 3.8 years for each solution.
IDEA uses 128-bit keys. Shall I bother doing the calculations for you?
Hint: multiply 3.8 years by 2^(128-80). And you can't do IDEA at that
speed; key setup takes much too long. I wouldn't be surprised if that
were the case for Skipjack, too, though there's no way of knowing just
yet. DES used only xor because that's what was feasible with mid-70's
technology. Modern chips can do a lot more.
NSA may or may not know how to crack Skipjack and IDEA (I doubt it for
the former; I have no idea for the latter, though it does seem to be a
strong cryptosystem). But it ain't gonna be by exhaustive search.
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From: aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
Subject: Re: NASA "Wraps"
Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow
Lines: 91
In article <17APR199316423628@judy.uh.edu> wingo%cspara.decnet@Fedex.Msfc.Nasa.Gov writes:
>I don't care who told you this it is not generally true. I see EVERY single
>line item on a contract and I have to sign it. There is no such thing as
>wrap at this university.
Dennis, I have worked on or written proposals worth tens of millions
of $$. Customers included government (including NASA), for profit and
non-profit companies. All expected a wrap (usually called a fee). Much
of the work involved allocating and costing the work of subcontractors.
The subcontractors where universities, for-profits, non-profits, and
even some of the NASA Centers for the Commercialization of Space. ALL
charged fees as part of the work. Down the street is one of the NASA
commercialization centers; they charge a fee.
Now, I'm sure your a competent engineer Dennis, but you clearly lack
experience in several areas. Your posts show that you don't understand
the importance of integration in large projects. You also show a lack
of understanding of costing efforts as shown by your belief that it
is reasonable to charge incremental costs for everything. This isn't
a flame, jsut a statement.
Your employer DOES charge a fee. You may not see it but you do.
>>Sounds like they are adding it to their overhead rate. Go ask your
>>costing people how much fee they add to a project.
>I did they never heard of it but suggest that, like our president did, that
>any percentage number like this is included in the overhead.
Well there you are Dennis. As I said, they simply include the fee in
their overhead. Many seoparate the fee since the fee structure can
change depending on the customer.
>No Allen you did not. You merely repeated allegations made by an Employee
>of the Overhead capital of NASA.
Integration, Dennis, isn't overhead.
>Nothing that Reston does could not be dont
>better or cheaper at the Other NASA centers where the work is going on.
Dennis, Reston has been the only NASA agency working to reduce costs. When
WP 02 was hemoraging out a billion $$, the centers you love so much where
doing their best to cover it up and ignore the problem. Reston was the
only place you would find people actually interested in solving the
problems and building a station.
>Kinda funny isn't it that someone who talks about a problem like this is
>at a place where everything is overhead.
When you have a bit more experience Dennis, you will realize that
integration isn't overhead. It is the single most important part
of a successful large scale effort.
>Why did the Space News artice point out that it was the congressionally
>demanded change that caused the problems? Methinks that you are being
>selective with the facts again.
The story you refer to said that some NASA people blamed it on
Congress. Suprise suprise. The fact remains that it is the centers
you support so much who covered up the overheads and wouldn't address
the problems until the press published the story.
Are you saying the Reston managers where wrong to get NASA to address
the overruns? You approve of what the centers did to cover up the overruns?
>If it takes four flights a year to resupply the station and you have a cost
>of 500 million a flight then you pay 2 billion a year. You stated that your
>"friend" at Reston said that with the current station they could resupply it
>for a billion a year "if the wrap were gone". This merely points out a
>blatent contridiction in your numbers that understandably you fail to see.
You should know Dennis that NASA doesn't include transport costs for
resuply. That comes from the Shuttle budget. What they where saying
is that operational costs could be cut in half plus transport.
>Sorry gang but I have a deadline for a satellite so someone else is going
>to have to do Allen's math for him for a while. I will have little chance to
>do so.
I do hope you can find the time to tell us just why it was wrong of
Reston to ask that the problems with WP 02 be addressed.
Allen
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From: higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey)
Subject: PDS vs. Nubus (was Re: LC III NuBus Capable?)
Nntp-Posting-Host: fnalf.fnal.gov
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
Lines: 24
In article <C5KzLs.KKB@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian V. Hughes) writes:
> mmiller@garnet.msen.com (Marvin Miller) writes:
>>My friend recently purchased a LC III and he wants to know if there is
>>such a demon called NuBus adapter for his PDS slot?
> The LC family of Macs can only
> use PDS cards. They are not able to use NuBus.
Ah, but why? Can some technically-hip Macslinger tell us what the
difference is between PDS and Nubus?
Is it impossible to make a gadget that plugs into PDS and ends in a
Nubus card cage? At least, Marvin's friend has not been able to
locate one and neither have I. What is the fundamental reason for
this?
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From: cds7k@Virginia.EDU (Christopher Douglas Saady)
Subject: Re: Bikes And Contacts
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 5
The best thing to do is to get a full face, even if it is a
cheap brain bucket. I didn't think a full face was important
until I took a gnarly spill and ended up sliding 20 feet on my
face. Plus with the visor down, you also have no worries about
your contacts.
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From: C445585@mizzou1.missouri.edu (John Kelsey)
Subject: Corporate acceptance of the wiretap chip
Nntp-Posting-Host: mizzou1.missouri.edu
Organization: University of Missouri
Lines: 60
strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>
>>What follows is my opinion. It is not asserted to be "the truth" so no
>>flames, please. It comes out of a background of 20 years as a senior
>>corporate staff executive in two Fortune 50 companies.
>
>>I'd be happy to use a crypto system supplied by the NSA for business, if
>>they told me it was more secure than DES, and in particular resistant to
>>attempts by Japanese, French, and other competitive companies and
>>governments to break.
>
>>I'd be happy to do so even with escrowed keys, provided I was happy about
>>the bona fides of the escrow agencies (the Federal Reserve would certainly
>>satisfy me, as would something set up by one of the big 8 accounting firms).
I don't doubt that this will be the attitude of many corporate leaders.
It's understandable--most corporate execs don't know much about cryptology,
and it's easy to get taken in by someone peddling snake oil. And, the
proposed scheme *is* a major improvement in telephone security to what
exists now.
The problem is that, with any security scheme of this kind, you have to
concern yourself with the weakest link in the chain. I suspect that NSA
has put a fairly strong encryption algorithm in this wiretap chip of theirs,
probably at least as strong as (say) DES in OFB-mode. Unfortunately, the
existence of the key-registry system seems to make possible all kinds of
possible attacks at a small fraction of the expense of trying to build (say)
a DES keysearch machine.
As originally described, it sounded like any police / court combination
could acquire the key for a given chip. I hope that's not the case, since
it would imply a glaring hole. (How much does it cost to find *one* crooked
jodge and *one* crooked cop? Especially for a foreign intelligence agency
or organized crime boss?) However, even if more intelligent schemes are used
to allow access to the unencrypted phone conversations, there will be weak-
nesses. They may be very expensive, and very difficult. But who would
trust his/her confidential information to an encryption scheme that, for
(say) $100,000 could by cracked one time in a hundred? (DES, for all the
complaints about a 56-bit key, would probably cost several million dollars
to build a keysearch machine for.)
How many million dollars would the confidential phone messages of
the GM headquarters be worth to Nissan, Chrysler, or Audi? How about
home phones of major execs and important engineers and designers?
"Gee, Mr Jones, I understand you've had some financial problems lately.
Maybe I can help..."
>>I'd trust something from the NSA long before I'd trust something from some
>>Swiss or anybody Japanese.
Indeed, if NSA really designed the algorithm to be secure, it's very likely
as secure as IDEA or 2-key DES. However, the system as a whole isn't resistant
to "practical cryptanalysis." In _The Puzzle Palace_, Bamford describes how
several NSA employees were turned by foreign (presumably KGB) agents, despite
security measures that I doubt any Big 8 accounting firm could match. And
NSA confidential data was *not* subject to being requested by thousands of
police organizations and courts across the land.
--John Kelsey, c445585@mizzou1.missouri.edu
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From: byab314@chpc.utexas.edu (Srinivas Bettadpur)
Subject: Re: Vandalizing the sky.
Organization: Center for Space Research, University of Texas at Austin
Lines: 15
In article <1993Apr23.140649.1@rhea.arc.ab.ca> thacker@rhea.arc.ab.ca writes:
>In article <C5t05K.DB6@research.canon.oz.au>, enzo@research.canon.oz.au (Enzo Liguori) writes:
>
>> What about light pollution in observations? (I read somewhere else that
>> it might even be visible during the day, leave alone at night).
>
>No need to be depressed about this one. Lights aren't on during the day
>so there shouldn't be any daytime light pollution.
Thanks for these surreal moments....
Srinivas
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P.O. Box 8520, Austin, Tx. 78713-8520, U.S.A. Tel. (512) 471 4332
BITNET : byab314@uthermes
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From: ergo@wam.umd.edu (Laurice)
Subject: Brand New Software Packages for Sale
Nntp-Posting-Host: rac3.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: um
Lines: 6
Looking for people to buy brand new software packages including Microsoft
Windows, Harvard Graphics, Pagemaker, Paradox, Lotus, etc. at 20-25% off
list price.
E-mail IMMEDIATELY to "ergo@wam.umd.edu" with name, phone #, email address,
and software names.
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From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Eco-Freaks forcing Space Mining.
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
Lines: 22
In article <1993Apr21.212202.1@aurora.alaska.edu> nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu writes:
>Here is a way to get the commericial companies into space and mineral
>exploration.
>
>Basically get the eco-freaks to make it so hard to get the minerals on earth.
They aren't going to leave a loophole as glaring as space mining. Quite a
few of those people are, when you come right down to it, basically against
industrial civilization. They won't stop with shutting down the mines here;
that is only a means to an end for them now.
The worst thing you can say to a true revolutionary is that his revolution
is unnecessary, that the problems can be corrected without radical change.
Telling people that paradise can be attained without the revolution is
treason of the vilest kind.
Trying to harness these people to support spaceflight is like trying to
harness a buffalo to pull your plough. He's got plenty of muscle, all
right, but the furrow will go where he wants, not where you want.
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All work is one man's work. | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
- Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
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From: mbc@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael B. Comet)
Subject: Re: HOT NEW 3D Software
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Lines: 34
Reply-To: mbc@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael B. Comet)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu
In a previous article, trb3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Tony R. Boutwell) says:
>There is a new product for the (IBM'ers) out there... it is called
>IMAGINE and it just started shipping yesterday... I can personally attest that it will blow the doors off of 3D-Studio. It is made by IMPUlSE, and is in its
>
Well....I don't know about its competing with 3D studio, but
it's pretty powerful allright.
>
>also....does anyone here know how to get in the Imagine mailing list??
>please e-mail me if you do or post up here....
>
Yes, send e-mail to:
imagine-request@email.sp.paramax.com
With a header of something like subscribe.
I actually work on the FAQ (frequently asked questions). We
should have the new version out of it by next week, but if you want, I
could e-mail you the previous one. It details what the list is etc...
as well as answering basic questions about Imagine.
Hope this helps!
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From: dlecoint@garnet.acns.fsu.edu (Darius_Lecointe)
Subject: Re: Sabbath Admissions 5of5
Organization: Florida State University
Lines: 36
[In response to some of the discussions on the Sabbath, Andrew Byler
commented that if we really followed sola scriptura we would worship
on Saturday -- the change to Sunday was a law made by the Church, and
we don't acknowledge its authority to make laws. I noted that
Protestants do not consider Sunday worship a law. --clh]
He was not referring to the FAQ but to the five Sabbath Admissions posted
on the bible study group. This is what prompted someone to send the FAQ
to me.
> The argument against the Sabbath is
> that it is part of the ceremonial law, and like the rest of the
n> ceremonial law is not binding on Christians.
You cannot show, from scripture, that the weekly Sabbath is part of the
ceremonial laws. Before you post a text in reply investigate its context.
> If you accept that
> the Sabbath is not binding on Christians, then the day of worship
> falls into the category of items on which individual Christians or
> (since worship is by its nature a group activity) churches are free to
> decide.
>
Can the churches also decide what is and is not sin? Interesting. Where
there is no divine imperative of course we must establish rules of
operation. But we cannot be as creative with what God has explicitly
spoken on.
Darius
[Again, in the normal Protestant interpretation, Sunday is not a law,
and worshipping on another day is not a sin. Churches are free to
decide on the day they will meet, just as they are free to decide on
the hour. It would not be a sin to worship on some other day, but if
you belong to a church that worships on Sunday and you show up on
Monday, you will probably worship alone... --clh]
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From: walsteyn@fys.ruu.nl (Fred Walsteijn)
Subject: built-in video problems on Mac IIsi !!??!!
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Lines: 30
Dear Mac-friends,
I've seen the following problem om three Mac IIsi machines
all with 17 Mb RAM installed (70 or 80 ns SIMMs).
If the contents of a window are being calculated and updated
a lot of strange horizontal lines are temporarily generated
on the screen. The lines translate to the top of the screen and
have a slightly lower brightness than their surroundings (they
are a few millimeters apart).
I admit that they are vague, but they can still be distinguished clearly,
especially if the environment (i.e. the rest of the room) is a bit dark.
Applications which produce this effect are:
- the previewer of DirectTeX 1.2 (i.e. DVIReader 1.2)
- Kaleidagraph 2.1.1/FPU
The machines use their built-in video and drive the old
Apple Hires Monochrome screen (two monitors/cable sets tried).
The effect is independent of the settings in the following control
panels: Memory (adressing mode, disk cache)
and Monitors (nr of greys/colors).
Have you ever seen this effect too ? Is there a solution ?
Thanks,
Fred
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Institute for Marine and Atmospheric Research | FAX: 31-30-543163
Utrecht University, The Netherlands | Phone: 31-30-533169
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From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian)
Subject: Treatment of Armenians in Azerbaijan #1
Summary: Prelude to Events Today
Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
Lines: 223
DEPOSITION of VITALY NIKOLAYEVICH DANIELIAN [1]
Born 1972
Attended 9th Grade
Middle School No. 17
Resident at Building 4/2, Apartment 25
Microdistrict No. 3
Sumgait [Azerbaijan]
Really, people in town didn't know what was happening on February 27. I came
home from school at 12 o'clock, being excused to leave before the last period
in order to go to Baku. When we left, everything in town was fine. Life was
the same as usual, a few groups of people were discussing things, soccer and
other things. Then we got on the Sumgait bus bound for Baku for my first
cousin's birthday, my father, my mother, and I. We spent the day in Baku, and
on the 28th, somewhere around 6:00 p.m., we got on the bus for home, figuring
that I'd have enough time to do my homework for the next day.
When we were entering town, near the 12-story high-rises, our bus was stopped
by a very large crowd. The crowd demanded that the Armenians get off the bus.
The driver says that there are no Armenians on board; then everyone on the bus
begins to shout that there are no Armenians on board. The group comes up to
the doors of the bus and has people get out one by one, not checking
passports, just going by the way people look. We get off the bus, but are not
taken for Armenians.
We set out in the direction of home. At first we were going to go into an old
building where we knew there'd be a place to hide, but the whole road was
packed with groups of people, all the way from Block 41 to the 8th
Microdistrict. These groups were emptying people's pockets and checking
passports. People who didn't have passports with them were beaten as well.
Then we decided to go home instead. Near the 12-story high-rises I saw burning
cars and a great many people standing around the driveways, yelling. "Death to
the Armenians" was written on the cars.
When we came into the courtyard--we live in an L-shaped building--it was still
quiet. We went on upstairs, but didn't turn on any lights. We tried to call
Baku to warn our relatives, who were due to arrive on Wednesday, not to come.
Then there was a knock at the door. It was our neighbors, who advised us to
come down to stay at their place. We went down to their place, and they led us
to the basement. They live on the first floor and have a basement which you
enter across the balcony. We sat in the basement while an Armenian woman was
beaten--she ran away naked. Our neighbors' daughter said that that's right,
that's what the Armenians deserve, because in Stepanakert, allegedly, people
were being killed, 11 girls from Agdam had been raped. We didn't stay very
long in the basement. We tried to support one another as best we could,
looking out the small window with the iron grating. Papa watched and said
things now and then. He said that there was a fire near Building 5, probably a
car on fire. Then one of the groups approached our driveway and demanded that
they be shown the apartments where Armenians lived. The neighbors said that
there weren't any Armenians here, and the group set out for the other wing of
the building. They appeared from the 5/2 side of the building, where, I later
found out, a woman had been murdered. The woman who ran away naked died. Yuri
Avakian was killed, too.
When the crowd left, the neighbors said that it was all over and we could go
home. We went back up to our place and again didn't turn on the light. We
started to gather up our things in order to leave Sumgait for a while. We
tried to call a relative who lived in Sumgait, but there was no answer. We
decided she had already left.
We sat at home. The phone rang, and the caller asked to speak with my
father. I called him to the phone. It was Jeykhun Mamedov, from my father's
work brigade. He said he was disgusted by what was happening in our
town. He asked for our address and promised to get a car and help us get
out of the city. To be quite honest, Papa didn't want to give him our address,
but my mother got on the phone and told him. Some 15 minutes after the
call a crowd ran into our entryway. Bursting into the building, they broke
down the door and came into the apartment . . .
They came straight to our apartment, they knew exactly where the Armenians
were. They came into our place. We tried to resist, but there was nothing we
could do. One of them took my parents' passports and began to read them. He
read the surname "Danielian," turned the page, read "Armenian," and that alone
was enough to doom us. He said that we should be moved quickly out into the
courtyard, where they would have done with us. Another, standing next to him,
pushed some of the keys on the piano and said "your death has tolled." They
had knives and steel truncheons.
I had a knife in my hand. Unfortunately, I didn't use it. I just knew that if
I didn't give up the knife things would be much worse. They struck my parents
and said that I should put the knife on the piano. Then, one of them commanded
that we be taken outside. One person was giving orders. When we were taken
outdoors I went in the middle, and my mother was behind me. Someone started to
push her so she'd walk faster; I let her go ahead of me, and fell in behind
her. When he tried to push me, I hit him, and at that moment they began
beating my parents; I realized that resistance was completely useless.
We are taken out into the courtyard, and the neighbors are standing on their
balconies to see what will happen next. The crowd surrounds us. At first they
strike me, and I'm knocked out; when I come to, they beat me again . . . I
lose consciousness often . . . I don't see or hear my parents, since I was the
first one hit and was out cold. When I come to I try to pick them up; they are
lying next to me. The crowd is gone, the only people around are watching from
their balconies. That's it. I try to pick them up, but can't. My left arm is
broken. I start toward the drive, wanting to tell the neighbors to call an
ambulance. The bodies of my parents are still warm.
We were attacked at around 9 o'clock. I regain consciousness at about 11 and
try to make it up the stairs home . . . When I knock at the neighbors' door,
they push me back and tell me to go away. I go up to the third floor, our
neighbor puts a damp cloth on my head and says she will call an ambulance; she
sends her son off for one and takes me to our apartment. I often look out the
window to see if the ambulance has arrived, but I can't see very far as a
result of the blows, and it seems that my parents have already been taken
away. Then I calm down and try to convince myself that they have been taken
away, and everything will be OK.
But they were still there. Later, at 8 in the morning as I found out, the
ambulance picked them up, but they were already dead. If they received
attention on time, it is possible they would still be alive. Later, around 12
o'clock on the 29th, policemen in civilian clothing come to our house with
some "assistants." They call an ambulance, and 20 minutes later it arrives,
and I am taken to the Sumgait Emergency Hospital. There they stitch the wounds
on my head and rebind my arm. At 3 o'clock I and the other Armenians who are
in the hospital are sent by ambulance to Baku.
In my ward at the Sumgait Hospital there were five people, all of them
Armenians. The hospital was nearly overflowing with Armenians. The only
Azerbaijanis there were those whose car had flipped over before the events,
before the 27th.
Then I was in the Semashko Hospital in Baku. I was there 38 days. When I was
released, on the 40th day, I found out that my parents were dead. At first
they told me that they were in Moscow being treated, but later I found out
that they were dead. My father's older brother told me.
My father's name was Nikolai Artemovich Danielian. He was born in 1938. My
mother, born in 1937, was Seda Osipovna Danielian. Papa worked at PMK-20, the
leader of the roofing brigade; mamma was a compressor operator.
They were also beaten on the head. The coroner's report stated that their
heads were smashed open and bled profusely.
At the confrontation I met Jeykhun Mamedov, who had called. As it turned out
later, he had been the one who tipped the crowd off. He had called
specifically to find out if we were at home and to find out the exact address
and dispatch the group. He knew the phone number, but didn't know the address.
Before the events I had never seen him, but had often spoken with him on the
phone, when he would ask to speak with my father. I knew him by name. He
denies that I was the one who answered the phone, saying that my father
answered it. He denies that he called from a public phone, saying that he
called from home, which also isn't true. I heard noise and the sounds of
automobiles. As I later found out, earlier he had been convicted, but had
never served any time--he had received a suspended sentence. He was about 20
years old. I don't know if he has since confessed or not. I am sure that he
was the one who tipped the crowd off. One-hundred percent sure.
My parents were from Karabagh. Father was from the village of Badar, and was
two years old when his family moved to Baku, where his elder brothers were to
go to school. He was a student at the Naval School, but never graduated. He
went off to work on the virgin lands [one of the gigantic agricultural
projects instituted under Khrushchev.] When he returned he lived in Baku, and
later moved to Sumgait, helping with the town's construction. Mamma was from
the village of Dagdagan, also from Karabagh. She worked in Sumgait, first in
a bookstore, and later, on a construction site.
My sister is older than I. She lives with her husband here in Karabagh. I
always loved my parents. That was why I went on to 9th grade, because it
was their dream that I would continue my studies. I finished 8th grade and
wanted to enter the Baku Nautical School, and after that, the Military
School. But later I changed my mind, or rather, my parents got me to recon-
sider, saying that it would be better to finish the 10th grade and then join
the Naval School. I was planning to be in the Navy almost my whole life
long--since childhood I had dreamed of being a sailor. My father wanted it
more than anything. He always recollected his youth, telling of the School,
and he always said that he had made a big mistake in leaving it.
Now I live in Karabagh and never plan to leave here. I will stay at the home
of my grandfather, of my ancestors, till the end of my days.
While in the hospital in Baku I learned the fates of many others who had
suffered as well, like Ishkhan [Trdatov]. He managed to hold them off [at
their residence in Microdistrict 3, Building 6/2, Apartment 6.] for a long
time, lost his father [Gabriel], and by some miracle managed to survive. I
also learned of Uncle Sasha, from Building 5/2, whose daughter was raped
. . . Besides them, Valery--I forgot his last name--was in the hospital too,
about a year younger than I, he went to School No. 14. He was riding with
his parents in the car. People were throwing rocks at them, he was hit, and
his parents brought him to the hospital, and he was in our ward. We even
came to be friends. Before that we had just seen each other around town. But
in the hospital we got to know one another better. I learned of the fates of
others, those who had died, or who were befallen by misfortune . . .
Today Suren Harutunian, the First Secretary of the Communist party of Armenia,
was shown on television. To be honest I am glad that Armenia agreed to
recognize Nagorno Karabagh as part of the Armenian Soviet Socialist Republic.
I was repelled, no, revolted, to hear the Baku announcer who read the decision
of the Azerbaijani Supreme Soviet Presidium against Karabagh becoming part of
Armenia.
After the events in Sumgait and those in Baku, the best solution is to give
Karabagh to Armenia, return it to Armenia, since the people want to live
peacefully with the Azerbaijanis, but everything has to be right before they
can do that.
I arrived in Karabagh on April 11. I felt very bad. I had constant headaches.
After a while my strength returned. My older sister, Suzanna, took me in. I
think that justice should prevail; the people are demanding their due.
You can't take away what is their due. My parents and I often spoke of Nagorno
Karabagh, often visited here--spent almost all of my vacations here. We had
even decided that if Karabagh would be made part of Armenia, we would move
here for sure. We always said that the Armenian people had suffered much, and
that what had been done in 1921--removing Nagorno Karabagh from Armenia--was
wrong. Sooner or later, mistakes should be corrected. And in order to correct
a mistake, it must not be repeated; and the fate of all Nagorno Karabagh lies
in the hands of our government.
June 13,1988
Stepanakert
--
David Davidian dbd@urartu.sdpa.org | "How do we explain Turkish troops on
S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies | the Armenian border, when we can't
P.O. Box 382761 | even explain 1915?"
Cambridge, MA 02238 | Turkish MP, March 1992
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From: Azmi Hashim <AXH113@psuvm.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Trident 8900 *CL* 1280x1024 driver?
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In article <C5qKuA.CHn@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com>,
dfeldman@lookout.mtt.it.uswc.uswest.com (David Feldman) says:
>Please excuse if FAQ but...
>New Trident 8900CL based card claims to have 1280x1024 support.
>Drivers with card indicate several 1280x1024 drivers on diskette.
>Windows 3.1 does not make all drivers on diskette available to
>configuration dialog box. Any suggestion?
>Thanx; please e-mail.
>dfeldman@uswest.com
Since we are in the subject, I have one more question. I have a Trident
8900C Video Card. I want to know what is the latest video driver for it.
So far, all I can find is that an old driver dated Aug. 92 in garbo.uwasa.fi
Anyone have any info ? Please e-mail me at axh113@psuvm.psu.edu
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}Honda: a "V" designates a V engine street bike. "VF" for V-4, "VT" for V-twin.
So how about my Honda Hawk (NT 650)? It's a twin, but not called a VT.
--
Curtis Jackson cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com '91 Hawk GT '81 Maxim 650
DoD#0721 KotB '91 Black Lab mix "Studley Doright" '92 Collie/Golden "George"
"There is no justification for taking away individuals' freedom
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Subject: Commercial Space News #22
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COMMERCIAL SPACE NEWS/SPACE TECHNOLOGY INVESTOR NUMBER 22
This is number twenty-two in an irregular series on commercial
space activities. The commentaries included are my thoughts on
these developments.
Sigh... as usual, I've gotten behind in getting this column
written. I can only plead the exigency of the current dynamics in
the space biz. This column is put together at lunch hour and after
the house quiets down at night, so data can quickly build up if
there's a lot of other stuff going on. I've complied a lot of
information and happenings since the last column, so I'm going to
have to work to keep this one down to a readable length. Have fun!
CONTENTS:
1- US COMMERCIAL SPACE SALES FLATTEN IN 1993
2- DELTA WINS TWO KEY LAUNCH CONTRACTS
3- COMMERCIAL REMOTE SENSING VENTURE GETS DOC "GO-AHEAD"
4- INVESTMENT FIRM CALLS GD'S SPACE BIZ "STILL A GOOD INVESTMENT"
5- ARIANE PREDICTS DIP IN LAUNCH DEMAND
6- NTSB INVESTIGATES PEGASUS LAUNCH OVER ABORTED ABORT
7- ANOTHER PEGASUS COMPETITOR IS ANNOUNCED
8- GEORGIA LAUNCH SITE DROPPED FROM PLANNING
9- SPAIN'S CAPRICORNIA LAUNCHER STILL PROCEEDING
10- PACASTRO SIGNS LAUNCH RESERVATION WITH SWEDISH SPACE CORP
11- CHINA AND TAIWAN JOINT SATELLITE VENTURE REPORTED
12- SOUTH KOREA ANNOUNCES NATIONAL MOVE INTO SPACE TECHNOLOGIES
13- SPACE TECHNOLOGY INDEXES THROUGH MARCH
FINAL NOTES
ARTICLES
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1- US COMMERCIAL SPACE SALES FLATTEN IN 1993
The US Department of Commerce projects US commercial space sales
will remain flat in 1993, with current data showing only a 2 percent
growth over 1992. As published in "US Industrial Outlook 1993"
(which was released in January), revenues from the 1993 US space
business are currently projected to be about $4,890 M.
In contrast to previous years when US commercial space sales had
shown double digits growth rates, this year's projected results are
driven by the US satellite manufacturing industry, where sales are
projected to drop from 12 satellites worth $1,300 M in 1992 to 7
satellites worth $ 670 M in 1993. The US Industrial Outlook also
projects U.S. commercial launchers faces flat demand in coming year,
and while predicting that 1993 revenues will increase 10 percent to
$450 M, future sales will be "adversely affected by the downward
revision in Department of Defense launch plans."
Offsetting flat launch revenues and satellite deliveries,
revenues for fixed and mobile satellite services are projected to
increase to $1,900 M, primarily driven by increased revenues from
broadcast and cable TV networks. Similarly, remote sensing products
and sales are projected to increase to $250 M in 1993 (up 15%).
US COMMERCIAL SPACE REVENUES 1989 1990 1991 1992(r) 1993(e)
Commercial satellites 900 1,000 1,100 1,300 670
Satellite services 750 800 1,200 1,500 1,900
Fixed (700) (735)(1,115)(1,275) (1,520)
Mobile (50) ( 65)( 85)( 225) ( 380)
Satellite ground equip 790 860 1,350 1,400 1,560
Mobile equipment (40) (85) (280) (352) ???
Commercial launches 150 570 380 450 450
Remote sensing data and services 125 155 190 215 250
Private microgravity research lab -- -- -- -- 60
===== ===== ====== ===== =====
TOTAL ANNUAL REVENUES 2,715 3,385 4,220 4,815 4,890
(r) = revised data for 1992 (e) = estimated data for 1993
[Commentary: This is the first look at how the US commercial
space industry is expected to do in 1993. In general, not a bad
report -- with most of the bad news concentrated in the satellite
manufacturing area. There, changes of only a few satellites worth
$100 M or so apiece can substantially influence the annual
projection. If we look forward over several years, this market
sector should retain strong sales as US firms have been very
successful in regaining international market share in the satellite
business.
Furthermore, sales of satellite ground equipment should go up in
the next revision of this data, expected to be released about mid-
year. Data on mobile satellite ground equipment sales (including
such items as GPS receivers and portable satellite terminals)
appears to be missing from the January data set. DoC usually
publishes a listing of "Space Business Indicators" in mid-year, and
the next revision of commercial space revenues should be released
then. I expect the revised revenues should easily top $5,000 M, if
the mobile satellite ground equipment are added back into the
numbers, and the year should show about a 10% overall market growth.
Looking beyond this year's data, future markets look quite
promising. The DoC projects satellite service revenues could top
$3,000 M by 1995 if new mobile satellite services and direct
broadcasting are implemented as planned, and that mobile satellite
station sales are expected to continue to growth at 15-20 % per year
through the mid 1990's. My numbers are somewhat more pessimistic
for near-term market growth, but I agree the trend should be for
substantial growth in US commercial space sales over at least the
next 5-10 years. (My pessimism is due to more conservative
assumptions on market capture and growth in LEO communications and
satellite direct broadcasting services. I don't believe all of the
current players in the yet-to-be-born LEO communications satellite
market and in the yet-to-be-proven direct broadcasting market will
be financial successes, nor that sales growth will be as explosive
as currently projected.)
It should also be noted this year's DoC data is the first
release to show revenues from privately funded microgravity research
facilities. The $60 M shown in the Janurary data is primarily for
the Spacehab module, planned for launch in April on the Space
Shuttle, but also hidden in these numbers are the projected first
sales from the COMET orbital launch and recovery experiment module.]
2- DELTA WINS TWO KEY LAUNCH CONTRACTS
McDonnell Douglas Corporation, which builds and markets the Delta
launch vehicle has won two important launch contracts. Motorola
Inc. announced in mid February that it had selected the Delta to
launch most of the satellites in the 66-satellite Iridium LEO
communications constellation, and in mid April, McDonnell Douglas
was awarded the USAF Medium Launch Vehicle III contract.
The launch services contract with Motorola for the Iridium
constellation launch is for at launch of least 45 Iridium
satellites. Another 21 satellites have been contracted to be
launched by Khrunichev Enterprise in Russian on 3 Proton vehicle
launches. These 45 satellites planned for the Delta will be
launched 5 at a time, providing for at least 9 launches.
Additional satellites in the Iridium constellation, such as a
planned on-orbit spares, may also be launched on Delta. Although
details of the launch services contract were reported to be
negotiation, and not yet final.
The USAF MLV contract also went to MDC, bidding a variant of
their Delta II launcher. This contract is only initially worth $7.5
million, but establishes a set of launch options for up to 36
launches, encompassing launches from 1996 through 2002. These
launches will deploy the next generation of the USAF's Global
Positioning System Block IIR navigation satellites, plus other
programs. First option for to meet the USAF launch options is
expected to be exercised this year, after which the USAF is expected
to request launches of up to 6 Deltas per year for at least 6 years.
Under this contract the USAF can also request "launch on demand"
services from MDC for the 1996-2002 time period, with a launch to
occur within 40 days of the request.
[Commentary: If these two contracts are fulfilled, they should
provide an excellent business base for MDC's Delta launch program
through the turn of the century. Combined, these two contracts have
a potential for about 45 launches, worth about $2,200 M to MDC, and
sustaining a core business base of $300-400 M/year. Other contracts
for international and commercial payloads, as well as for NASA
Medium ELV-class payloads, will add to this business base -- keeping
MDC as a viable commerical launch company.
However, it should be noted there are risk elements in these
contracts. Motorola's Iridium LEO communications constellation has
not yet received a US Federal Communications Commission license for
operation in the U.S., nor has Motorola lined up all the financing
and financial partners for the Iridium venture. Without these
approvals or financial backing there will be no Iridium launches.
But, hopefully, these uncertainties will be settled this year.
Similarly, the USAF MLV III program has been the target of
several Congressional actions which have slowed the production of
the GPS Block IIR satellites and deleted the funding for the MLV III
program in favor of the USAF NLS/"Spacelifter" program. At this
time, while it appears the MLV III contract will be executed, future
funding for the MLV III and other USAF commercial launch contracts
is being reconsidered as part of national space launch strategy
reviews. Some opinions expressed from within the Administration and
Congress propose cancellation of all "ELV upgrade" programs
(including the MLV programs) in favor of the proposed "Spacelifter"
program. Such opinions may have some weight in this year's budget
deliberations, particularly as DoD funds will be more difficult to
find in the shrinking US Defense budget.]
3- COMMERCIAL REMOTE SENSING VENTURE GETS DOC "GO-AHEAD"
The first commercial license to operate a remote sensing
satellite was approved in early February by the US Department of
Commerce's Office of Space Commerce. A license was granted to
WorldView Imaging Corporation of Oakland, California to build and
operate a pair of LEO imaging satellites to provide multi-spectral
images of the Earth.
[Commentary: There has been little data released on this venture
by WorldView and the DoC, other than the announcement of the
operating and construction license. This was reported to be at the
request of WorldView. Most industry speculation identifies this new
venture as a "Star Wars" spinoff, using SDI-type technology to
provide digital Earth sensing data, and heavily integrated into
digital GIS databases for remote sensing/GIS users. Most probable
customers for this service include exploration geologists,
agricultural planners, and urban planners.
It is noteworthy this is the first commercial venture under the
1992 Land Remote Sensing Policy Act. The Act, as passed last
November, provides that remote sensing data gathered from private remote
sensing craft may be sold to users at differing prices. Prior to
this act, remote sensing data from all satellites had to be sold to
all users at the same prices, and private remote sensing ventures
would have had to sell at the government-set Landsat data prices.
There are rumors of several other potential commercial remote
sensing ventures working their way through the system at different
stages of development. I think the large Landsat and SPOT satellite
systems will provide the majority of the satellite remote sensing
data market for the next decade or so. In contrast to these large,
government-sponsored remote sensing systems, smaller market ventures
such as WorldView and others can exploit market niches and use
innovative technology, and I believe, can find profitability on the
margin. I predict there may be some very interesting ventures
appearing in the next year or so.]
4- INVESTMENT FIRM CALLS GD'S SPACE BIZ "STILL A GOOD INVESTMENT"
Wall Street investment house Morgan Stanley thinks General
Dynamic's Space Systems Division could still be a moneymaker,
despite having failed in the last 3 Atlas launches. In a recent
analyst's report Morgan Stanley said "We are more than ever
convinced that if the company can return the Atlas to its historical
95%-plus success rate, this will become a highly profitable, cash-
generating unit." Based upon discussions with GD's corporate
management, Morgan Stanley projects that if the Atlas problems are
cleared up the unit could see $70 M in earnings per year by 1995 and
$100 M per year by 2000. This is based upon GD's projection of
capturing about 10 Atlas launches per year on the world market.
[Commentary: Three failures in a row of their launch system has
hurt General Dynamic's Space Systems Division. Since GD has
restructured to only keep a very few profitable core businesses,
many market pundits have been speculating GD's space business might
be next to be sold. The Morgan Stanley report indicates GD's Space
Systems Division has some potential as a moneymaker, despite current
problems -- if they can get their act together. Sales are projected
to be about $560 M in 1993, which will probably generate a loss of
about $25 M. If GD can capture their projected share of the space
launch market, and if they have managed to clean up the reliability
of their Atlas launchers, then they could generate healthy profits
from those sales. But until they demonstrate the Atlas Centaur
program is back on track, this division will continue to show
substantial losses.
In response to the sell-off rumors, in my opinion, this operation
is not a really good candidate for takeover and quick profitability.
To do such a takeover, the current set corporate and divisional
management would be replaced with another set from outside the firm.
In GD SSD's case, to get the division back on track, the management
team will have to concentrate hard on the technical problems with
the Atlas Centaur, as well as in selling Atlas services. This would
indicate only another firm with experience in rocket launch
operations could find such talent in-house, and be able to convince
customers to buy their launch services. Optimally, the firm would
have substantial liquid rocket experience, and experience in
marketing space technology internationally as well. Candidates for
this might be TRW, Rockwell, Lockheed, and Martin, and possibly
McDonnell Douglas and Boeing. But most of those firms have cash
flow problems (MDC), have had a substantial business contraction
(Boeing and MDC), are involved with other launch firms (Lockheed),
or have taken on substantial debt (Martin). And coming up with the
$700-1500 M purchase price for the division is a big chunk of
change for any company.]
5 - ARIANE PREDICTS DIP IN LAUNCH DEMAND
Arianespace, the operator of the Ariane launch system, is
projecting a dip in launch demand in the late 1990's. In early
February, Arianespace released their annual market survey, which
detailed their projection of the space transportation market for the
next decade.
Over short run, Arianespace expects to retain their dominant
position and sustain a majority share of the launch market. Of 54
international and commercial launches planned through 1995, Ariane
holds contracts for 31, General Dynamics' Atlas vehicle holds 14
contracts, McDonnell Douglas' Delta holds 7, and Great Wall's Long
March vehicle holds 2 launch contracts.
Three-quarters of future launch contracts for which Ariane can
compete are projected to come from communications satellites with
the remaining 25% split between weather, Earth observation, and
scientific satellites. Most of the future telecommunications demand
growth is predicted to come from the Asia/Pacific region.
Arianespace expects the current market consolidation of
individual satellite operators into regional or national groups will
continue, with these groups investing in heavier satellites with
larger communications payloads carrying more transponders.
Arianespace predicts the average mass of telecommunications
satellites should increase by 20 % over today's average level, to
about 3000 kg in GEO.
Demand for commercial launch services is expected to remain
strong over the next three years, but in the second half of the
decade, Arianespace predicts demand will decrease. Arianespace
bases this prediction upon a matching of satellite transponder
demand and supply, particularly as new data compression techniques
appear to could double or triple transponder capacity using existing
or near-term transponders.
One of the significant possible changes in the market was
identified as the arrival of new launch vehicles, including Russian
launch systems. But Arianespace predicts that in the long term,
investors purchasing launch services are looking for the best trade
off between launch service quality and price, and that Russian and
other new launch services will have to prove out their capabilities
and service quality, and their market penetration will be minimal.
[Commentary: Ariane releases their market surveys annually, and
I reported on their prior market survey in a past issue of CSN/STI.
Comparing the two surveys, there aren't outstanding differences in
the numbers. The most notable change is the consideration of new
data compression techniques, reducing the demand for new physical
transponders on orbit.
I note that in contrast to some predictions, demand for space-
based communications transponders appears to be remain strong. While
fiber optic lines are making substantial inroads into the
established point-to-point telecommunications markets, growing
demand for telecommunications services world wide and for point-to-
multipoint broadcast services have prevented a decrease in space
transponder demand. Fiberoptic cables provide a higher capability
service, but only from established point A to established point B.
To establish a fiberoptic link it is necessary to install cable
between the points, and while there are improved network solutions,
installing a large network of distributed fiberoptic links can cost
millions or billions of dollars.
For broadcast services where there is not an existing ground
network structure, satellites still offer the most cost effective
solution. And if new services are required into a new region, it is
cheaper to install a small satellite link costing only a few tens of
thousands of dollars and tie into the existing global satellite
network. This allows rapid growth of new satellite services, and
has kept demand high. The replacement market for fiberoptics is
growing as well, since as demand grows between the points serviced,
it becomes cost effective to later install a fiberoptic link to
handle the increase in traffic.
Since the telecommunications and data transfer markets are still
growing rapidly, satellite market projections remain rosy. But
satellites are also getting longer orbital lifetimes. Current
generation satellites are now getting guarantees of at 15 years of
on-orbit service or more, in contrast to 10 years of service from
last generation's satellites. This has cut back some of the launch
demand, as satellite owners are rescheduling replacement satellite
launches over longer intervals.
And as last note; Arianespace didn't flag it this year, but it
looks like the space transportation market will be rather over-
supplied by existing launch systems in the near term. The annual
commercial launch demand is for about 15-20 medium sized satellites
per year. From the supply side, Ariane is capable of launching up
to about a dozen medium sized satellites a year, Delta is capable of
about 9-12 per year, Atlas is capable of 6-12, Long March 4-8,
Japan's H-Vehicle 2-4, Russia's Proton capable of 8, and other
systems such as Zenit and Soyuz another 10-20 medium launches per
year. That's a lot of capability for a small market.
We can only expect the competition to intensify for commercial
launches.]
6- NTSB INVESTIGATES PEGASUS LAUNCH OVER ABORTED ABORT
The 9 Feb Pegasus launch by Orbital Sciences Corporation has
spawned an investigation over an apparent violation of range safety
rules. A valid abort order from a NASA range safety officer to halt
the mission was overridden and the Pegasus was launched in violation
of range safety rules.
In the last few minutes of the Pegasus launch countdown, one of
two abort command receivers aboard the Pegasus failed. Such a failure
typically scrubs a launch,and a NASA range safety officer at
Wallops Island, VA issued a mission abort order about a minute
before the scheduled Pegasus launch. Somehow this command was
overridden by the OSC launch team or the message was lost in the
communications channels, and the Pegasus was launched despite the
valid abort call.
Fortunately, the Pegasus functioned as expected, and the abort
command receiver was not needed. But this incident did spark an
investigation since a valid abort order was given under agreed-to
launch constraint rules, and was not obeyed.
Leading the investigation is the National Transportation Safety
Board (NTSB) with support from NASA, OSC, and the Air Force. This
investigation marks the first time NTSB has taken the lead on an
incident involving a space launch. According to the NTSB, their
investigation will take about 6 months, and is primarily looking at
lines of authority, communications links and safety procedures used
in the launch.
[Commentary: This is the first time that the NTSB has led an
investigation into a space launch. Their leadership was requested
by the Department of Commerce's Office of Commercial Space
Transportation, who had licensed the commercial launch.
At the time of writing this column, some of the initial
investigations have been concluded, and some of the results are
starting to leak out into the trade press. Apparently, 3 or four
different communications channels were in use during the test. After
the abort destruct receiver stopped responding, the NASA test
director and range controller in the Mission Control room at Wallops
Island gave abort orders about a minute before the launch.
According to the mission rules, this should have stopped the launch.
Somehow, the OSC test conductor ordered the abort reversed, and the
NASA communicator on the net relayed that order to the B-52 carrying
the Pegasus at about 22 seconds before launch. Differing
explainations of exactly how this happened are proposed -- with the
best set being that clear lines of communications and clear
definition of the responsibilities of the mission control team, and
understanding of the mission rules were not established before the
launch.
As we see more and more commercial launches, more of these
procedural issues are going to crop up and will have to be resolved.
This case is interesting because it is the first time the NTSB has
been called in to investigate a commercial launch problem (as they
do with commercial aircraft problems).
I think this problem will turn out to be primarily problems with
procedures and communications, and will be cleared up with issuance
of guidelines on how launch communications should be set up and how
specific lines of authority should be delineated.]
7- ANOTHER PEGASUS COMPETITOR IS ANNOUNCED
Tsniimach Enterprise in Russia announced it is marketing a new
small space launch system, based upon converted ICBM components.
Two versions of the launcher are being marketed: the "Aerokosmos"
winged vehicle launched like the OSC Pegasus, and the "Severkosmos",
launched from a mobile ground transporter. The Aerokosmos is
projected to deliver 900 kg to a 200 km circular orbit or 580 kg to
an 800 km circular orbit, and the Severkosmos to be capable of 430
kg to 200 km orbits and 225 kg to 800 km. Also proposed to be used
with these launch systems is a LEO data relay system called
'Sineva'. Tsniimach Enterprise is described as a ex-military
establishment, focusing on aerodynamics and thermal protection of
spacecraft and which has participated in the development of the
Buran shuttle system, They are located near the NPO Energia
facility in Kaliningrad, outside of Moscow.
[Commentary: There's very little released information on this new
venture. My suspicion is it is another Russian enterprise looking
for hard currency and trying to capitalize upon their in-house
knowledge of ex-Soviet launch systems. It adds to the list of numerous
commercial space startups announced from the ex-Soviet Union.
This one's a little different in that they are offering variants
of ex-Soviet ICBMs, but I can't identify any key customers being
targeted or substantial financial backing.]
8- GEORGIA LAUNCH SITE DROPPED FROM PLANNING
In late January, Georgia Tech Research Institute released the
results of a preliminary study on the feasibility of a commercial
rocket launching site in Camden County, Georgia at the old Kingsland
Missile Test Launching Site on the Atlantic coast. The preliminary
study recommended the site not be pursued as a commercial launch
site, stating reopening the site was not feasible due to projected
low investment returns, plus environmental and other geographic
considerations. However, the report did say the site might be ideal
for other aerospace uses, and recommended other potential uses.
[Commentary: This should put the nails in the coffin of the
Kingsland Commercial Launch Site. While other sites are still
proceeding with commercial launch site development plans, Kingsland
found without a key customer to act as anchor tenant, and if
substantial infrastructure had to be put in, then the expected
returns were too low to justify the cost of development.
This might point out some key discriminators in judging the
feasibility of a commercial launch site. These include:
- Is there an identified key customer to provide core usage
sufficient to recover setup costs?
- Is there a market advantage of using the site?
- Can existing infrastructure be used or modified at the site?
- Can financing be found at low enough cost to support the
investment?
Other commercial launch site ventures -- including those at
Woomera, Poker Flat, Cape York, White Sands, Alabama Off-Shore
Platform, Hawaii, and Vandenberg have to also be judged against
these criteria. In my opinion, some of these ventures are flying
on hope and speculation, and not on sound financial grounds.]
9- SPAIN'S CAPRICORNIA LAUNCHER STILL PROCEEDING
In one of his last official acts, former President Bush
authorized space technology transfer for several joint space
ventures between US and other firms. One of these was a proposed
use of US technology by Spain to build a small booster. With that
regulatory impediment removed, the 3-stage Capricornia launch
vehicle will start development later this year, planning for a first
launch in the 1995/96 time period. The Capricornia is described as
a small 3-stage all solid booster designed to put 250-500 Kg into
LEO. Several launch sites are being examined for the system,
including 2 on the Iberian peninsula and 1 on the Canary Islands.
Originated by INTA in Spain, the project reports it has $ 30 M in
development funding, and will use technology from Argentina's Condor
launch vehicle as well as from the US.
[Commentary: Several firms have identified a market opportunity
in providing a small launcher for the European market. Small
payloads from European firms or organizations currently use either
Ariane piggyback launches or the US/Italian Scout launcher.
However, Ariane piggyback opportunities are limited, and the Scout
program is being phased out (accompanied by some disarray in the
Italian government and space industry regarding any follow-on
system).
This has left an apparent niche for a new European small launch
system. Surprisingly enough, ESA has not supported development of
such a system within the current space funding structure. Studies
have been performed by British Aerospace, Aerospatiale, Deutsche
Aerospace, and Italian organizations, but with the exception of the
Swedish/PacAstro system (reported below), I have not been able to
find any other European development work with even a rumor of
funding for hardware.
Also of interest is the linking of the Capricornia to the
Argentinian Condor launcher. There have been some interesting
rumors surfacing out of Argentina over the past year about a space
launcher/IRBM program funded under the military junta which ruled
the country in the 1970's and early 1980's.
What is known is in Feb 1992, the Argentinian Air Force formally
transferred control of the Condor 2 missile program to the new
civilian Argentinian national space agency (Comison Nacional de
Atividades Espaciales - CNAE). The Condor 2 program was described
as originating in 1983, expanding upon the smaller Condor 1 rocket
program in collaboration with Egypt and with support of German
firms. The Condor 2 was also reportedly funded indirectly by Iraq
in the mid-1980's. Fairly large solid rocket motors were built and
tested, but Argentinan development of a suitable guidance package
lagged that of the propulsion system.
It should be noted CNAE is planning to launch its first
scientific satellite in late 1994. The US$ 9 M, 181 Kg, SAC-B
satellite will study the Earth's upper atmosphere and includes
cooperative experiments from Italy and the US. No launch vehicle has
yet been selected, but OSC's Pegasus and the Russian Burlak Air
launched rocket are reported to be strong contenders for this
contract.]
10- PACASTRO SIGNS LAUNCH RESERVATION WITH SWEDISH SPACE CORP
PacAstro, a small launch firm in Herndon, Virginia announced in
late February it had received a $6 M launch reservation contract
from the Swedish Space Corp to launch a satellite on PacAstro's PA-2
launch vehicle. This will be performed as part of the Polar
Satellite Service (PSS), a joint Norwegian Space Center/ Swedish
Space Corp. program to upgrade the Andoya Rocket Range in Norway and
offering small satellite launches into the polar regions. According
to PacAstro, PSS is also performing an $8 M upgrade of the Andoya
launch facilities, including a new integration facility and a fully-
enclosed vertical assembly building for small launch vehicles like
the PacAstro PA-2. PacAstro has been chosen as "the main
alternative rocket supplier" for the small satellite launch service
to be offered by PSS from Andoya. The date of the launch of the
Swedish satellite was not specified.
[Commentary: PacAstro has been trying to line up customers and
funding for their launch vehicle for some time now. The PA-2 is a
small, two stage rocket fueled by RP-1 and Liquid Oxygen. From
PacAstro's literature, the engines designed for the PA-series
rockets are built of "off the shelf" components based upon the Lunar
MOdule Descent Engines built by TRW, and are capable of putting a
225 Kg satellite into a 750 km circular polar orbit.
PacAstro is trying to arrange construction financing for its
first three PA-2 vehicles, with a first launch planned for 1995, and
2 orbital launches planned for 1996. My records show PacAstro hired
TRW to provide marketing support and systems design, with primary
engineering to be done by AeroAstro, a small satellite builder
closely associated with PacAstro (headquartered in the same
building). The Swedish Space Corporation would supply engineering,
launch operations, vehicle subsystems, and marketing support.
Sumitomo Corp. of Tokyo, is a first round investor and sits on the
board of directors.
PacAstro has gotten a first round financial package of at least
$550 K (Some sources place this of high as $1 M), but has been
searching for about a year for the additional $20-30 M needed to
design, build and launch their first set of vehicles.
The launch reservation from SSC can possibly be used to help
bring some investors on board, but by my estimate, they will need
much more than the single $6 M sale to put their venture into real
hardware.]
11- CHINA AND TAIWAN JOINT SATELLITE VENTURE REPORTED
In early March, it was reported a joint satellite communications
venture between a Taiwanese and mainland Chinese was in the works.
As reported in the Taipei press, China Development Corp. (CDC),
headquartered in Taiwam and with links to the ruling Nationalist
Party, is planning to set up a joint venture in Hong Kong with China
Great Wall Industry Corp. with the objective of launching a regional
communications satellite. CDC would cover about 10% of the satellite
system cost (US $10 M) in exchange for rights to 10% of the
satellite's communications channels.
[Commentary: This announcement came close on the heels of the
release of Taiwanese plans for space development (released in mid
January). In those plans, the National Space Program Office of
Taiwan will launch 3 satellites, starting with ROCSAT-1, a 400 Kg
scientific spacecraft, planned for launch in 1997. Two additional
satellites are planned, both communications satellites. TRW has
been helping Taiwan plan this program, budgeted at T$13.6 B (US $530
M) through 2006.
I haven't been able to establish any relationship between this
venture and those of the NSPOT, but there might be a connection.
While Taiwan has the financing to pursue several ventures, the
current Taiwanese telecommunications market might not support two
separate sastellite ventures.
The reported name for the Tiawanese/Chinese system is "Asiasat-
2", but I don't thinks this has any relationship with the existing
Hong Kong-based "Asiasat" program involving Chinese, Hong Kong, and
other Asian investors, other than using it as an organizational
model. There are some obvious advantages to pursuing such a joing
venture -- it could provide excellent first-hand experience to
Taiwan for a very low cost, which then can be used in later
satellite ventures. But there are internal political issues between
Taiwanese and Chinese ventures, but putting any joint venture
through a Hong Kong intermediary corporation might allow it to
proceed.
In any case, the East Asian satellite market is lighting up with
substantially growth projected in space services and revenues. This
is just another indicator to add to the list.]
12- SOUTH KOREA ANNOUNCES NATIONAL MOVE INTO SPACE TECHNOLOGIES
South Korea's Trade, Industry and Resources Ministry recently
announced plans to invest US$22 B in research and development and
another US$17 B into manufacturing and research facilities for
advanced aerospace technologies. Space technologies have been
specifically targeted as part of this program, beginning with
manufacture and launch of an advanced multi-purpose satellite by
1997. The objective of this investment is to raise South Korea's
aerospace technology to the level of the world's top 10 countries by
2000.
[Commentary: South Korea has been quietly working to develop its
national aerospace industry, specifically including space
activities. I'm noting this as a flag that potential new players are
coming into the commercial space market.
As part of their national effort, 2 national telecommunications
satellites for Korea Telecom will be launched in April and Oct 1995
on Delta. Designated Koreasat 1 and 2, the platforms will provide
television and telephone service throughout the Korean Peninsula,
southwestern Japan and portions of China bordering North Korea.
South Korea launched its first small satellite piggyback on
Ariane in Aug 1992, called Uribyol-1 (Our Star) and costing about US
$8.8 M. Uribyol-2 is planned for piggyback launch in October of
this year, again on Ariane, and will be entirely "made in Korea."
Uribyol-3, projected for a 1995 launch, will be an environment-
monitoring micro-satellite.
This satellite may be the precursor to a series of small Earth
observation satellites, The KEOS (Korean Earth Observation System)
project, which has been submitted for approval to the South Korean
government, would use two or three 300-kg spacecraft equipped with
optical and microwave sensors.
South Korean press reports claim there is also a parallel
military effort to establish the capabilities for building and
launching small military satellites by 2001. Supposedly a
government panel had been established to oversee such an effort,
funded at US $ 500 M between 1993 and 2001, in anticipation of an
expected pullout of U.S. intelligence-gathering systems from the
Korean peninsula.
In conjunction with all of these reported efforts, South Korean
is also pursuing production work either as off-sets to existing
aerospace technology contracts (for example, McDonnell Douglas is
offsetting production of some Delta parts to South Korean firms as
part of the Koreasat launch contracts), or for production of
consumer space items (among other products, South Korea exports
satellite receiver television setups to Japan, and Samsung has
announced teaming for production of OSC's Orbcomm user terminals.).
This looks like a very aggressive push into space technologies.
Considering that East Asia is currently the fastest growing sector
for commercial space services (primarily for telecommunications), a
South Korean push into space technologies may change the composition
of commercial space market there over the next decade.]
13- SPACE TECHNOLOGY INDEXES THROUGH MARCH
As announced in the last CSN/STI, each issue will give the
results of stock indexes and portfolios regarding space stocks and
investments. The table below summarizes results to the end of
March. The Space Technology Index did quite a bit better than the
market as a whole, as represented by the S&P 500 index. Since 90+%
of the values included in the index are US firms, this represents a
general increase in the market value of space-related firms. The
increase in the first quarter is more than in all of 1992 -- which
is a very promising sign, although future months may reverse this
trend. The Commercial Space Technology Index has also done quite
well, but the Pure Play portfolio -- consisting of stocks of firms
which are pure plays in space technologies -- has also surpassed its
results in all of 1993. We'll keep an eye on these ....
INDEX RESULTS THROUGH MARCH
Beginning Beginning 1 Jan 93 to
1992 1993 31 Mar 1993
------- -------- --------
S&P 500 416 436 (+4.7%) 452 (+3.7%)
Space Tech Index 267 304 (+13.6%) 373 (+22.7%)
Comm'l Space Tech Index 167 194 (+16.3%) 222 (+14.2%)
Space Tech Pure Plays 147 169 (+15.4%) 197 (+16.2%)
FINAL NOTES -
What? This column's already full? And I still have bunches of
commercial space developments to report on. As I said at the start
of this, column there's been a lot of interesting happenings - but
I'll have to put them into the next issue.
Looking ahead, I've got several articles in the works on new
happenings with Iridium and the LEO communications satellite market,
more news on international launchers appearing (and disappearing) on
the market, new international commercial space ventures, and other
interesting developments.
And as always, I hope you folks find this stuff useful and
interesting -- Any and all comments are welcome.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Wales Larrison Space Technology Investor
"Felicitas multos habet amicos" P.O. Box 2452
Seal Beach, CA 90740-1452
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From: shimpei@leland.Stanford.EDU (Shimpei Yamashita)
Subject: Survey: Faith vs. Reason
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Lines: 55
The following is a survey we are conducting for a term project in a philosophy
class. It is not meant to give us anything interesting statistically; we want
to hear what kind of voices there are out there. We are not asking for full-
blown essays, but please give us what you can.
As I do not read these groups often, please email all responses to me at
shimpei@leland.stanford.edu. As my mail account is not infinite, if you can
delete the questions and just have numbered answers when you write back
I would really appreciate it.
Since we would like to start analyzing the result as soon as possible, we
would like to have the answers by April 30. If you absolutely cannot make
it by then, though, we would still liken to hear your answer.
If anyone is interested in our final project please send a note to that effect
would like to have the answers by April 30. If you absolutely cannot make
it by then, though, we would still like to hear your answer.
If anyone is interested in our final project please send a note to that effect
(or better yet, include a note along with your survey response) and I'll try
to email it to you, probably in late May.
SURVEY:
Question 1)
Have you ever had trouble reconciling faith and reason? If so, what was the
trouble?
(For example: -Have you ever been unsure whether Creationism or Evolutionism
holds more truth?
-Do you practice tarot cards, palm readings, or divination that
conflicts with your scientific knowledge of the world?
-Does your religion require you to ignore physical realities that
you have seen for yourself or makes logical sense to you?)
Basically, we would like to know if you ever _BELIEVED_ in something that your
_REASON_tells you is wrong.
Question 2)
If you have had conflict, how did/do you resolve the conflict?
Question 3)
If you haven't had trouble, why do you think you haven't? Is there a set of
guidelines you use for solving these problems?
Thank you very much for your time.
--
Shimpei Yamashita, Stanford University email:shimpei@leland.stanford.edu
"There are three kinds of mathematicians:
those who can count and those who can't."
[It seems to be that time of year. Please remember that he's asked for
you to respond by email. --clh]
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From: holland@CS.ColoState.EDU (douglas craig holland)
Subject: Re: Screw the people, crypto is for hard-core hackers & spooks only
Nntp-Posting-Host: beethoven.cs.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department
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In article <1r47l1INN8gq@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr) writes:
>
>In most cases information you come by properly is yours to use as you wish,
>but there are certainly exceptions. If you write a paper which includes
>sufficiently detailed information on how to build a nuclear weapon, it is
>classified. As I understand the law, nuclear weapons design is
>_automatically_ classified even if you do the work yourself. I believe you
>are then not allowed to read your own paper.
>
Hate to mess up your point, but it is incredibly easy to learn how
to make a nuclear weapon. The hard part is getting the radioactives to
put in it. Have you ever read Tom Clancy's _The Sum of All Fears_? It
describes in great detail how a Palestinian terrorist group constructed a
nuclear bomb using stolen (actually found) plutonium, with some help from
an East German nuclear physicist. For some non fiction, read Tom Clancy's
article _Five Minutes Till Midnight_. It shows how a terrorist group could
construct a nuke using Neptunium, a low grade radioactive waste product
dumped in toxic waste sites and forgotten about. He also claims information
on constructing a nuke is easily found in any large library. Sounds
kind of scary, doesn't it? :-(
>A less serious example: if you tell drivers about a speed trap they are
>about to run into, you can be fined, even though you might argue that you
>broke no law when you discovered the location of the policeman. The charge
>is interfering with a police officer, which is quite similar what you would
>be doing by reverse engineering the Clipper chip.
>
>Don't tell me that you think this violates the Constitution -- find some
>court cases which have struck down such laws. Many people would not be
>comforted by the fact that the government violated their rights when it
>imprisoned them.
>
Don't know whether you could get busted for warning of a speedtrap.
Doug Holland
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From: harter5255@iscsvax.uni.edu
Subject: Help on hand scanners wanted
Organization: University of Northern Iowa
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Fellow netters,
I'm in the market for a hand scanner. However, I don't know anyone who has
one. I have my eye on two choices.
Dexxa: This scanner is available at Wal-Mart for $90. It includes GrayWorks
software and provides 400 dpi and 32 grayscales (I think). The OCR software
Catchword is available through mail-order for about $90 also.
Mustek: (Gray Artist for Windows) This scanner offers 256 grayscales
(according to Cad & Graphics) and 800 dpi. It is available for $169
mail-order and comes with Perceive OCR and Picture Publisher LE.
I am also looking at a Genius hand scanner (B105) from Cad & Graphics. It
is basically the same as the Mustek scanner except for the resolution (400
dpi) and price ($149).
Basically, I would like recommendations on which to buy. I have heard that
Logitech makes the best and manufactures Dexxa scanners. But which one is the
best buy? Would 800 dpi really be helpful (output would be no better than HP
LaserJet III or Canon BJ-200 - 300x300 to 360x360)? I am leaning toward the
Mustek because it offers the most features and is in the middle in terms of
prices. Which should I buy?
If you have a hand scanner, please let me know whether or not you would
recommend it. Also, if you know of another scanner within the price range
(under $225) that would be a better deal, please E-Mail me. Any and all help
would be greatly appreciated.
- Kevin Harter
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From: I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau)
Subject: Re: Albert Sabin
Organization: Technical University Braunschweig, Germany
Lines: 20
In article <1993Apr15.225657.17804@rambo.atlanta.dg.com>
wpr@atlanta.dg.com (Bill Rawlins) writes:
(Deletion)
>
> Since you have referred to the Messiah, I assume you are referring
> to the New Testament. Please detail your complaints or e-mail if
> you don't want to post. First-century Greek is well-known and
> well-understood. Have you considered Josephus, the Jewish Historian,
> who also wrote of Jesus? In addition, the four gospel accounts
> are very much in harmony.
>
Since this drivel is also crossposted to alt.atheism, how about reading
the alt.atheism FAQ? The Josephus quote is concidered to be a fake even
by Christian historians, and the four gospels contradict each other in
important points.
Weren't you going to offer a scientific theory of Creationism?
Benedikt
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From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Subject: MSF Program where?
Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Lines: 10
Could someone mail me the archive location of the MSF Program (for
an IBM, right?)?
Thanks,
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"This is where I wanna sit and buy you a drink someday." - Temple of the Dog
Sea-Bass Sears --> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu --> DoD#516 <-- |Stanley, ID.|
'79 Yamaha XS750F -- '77 BMW R100S -- '85 Toyota 4Runner -- | NYC, NY. |
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From: gp2011@andy.bgsu.edu (George Pavlic)
Subject: Re: Ron Francis
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Lines: 10
Not to mention, Mr. Francis is an incredibly nice person. Over Christmas
break, a friend of mine had a little Xmas gathering. The two of us drove
to Ron's house. While I stayed in the car out of shyness, my friend went
to the door and rang the bell. Ron answered and my friend introduced
himself. He then proceeded to invite Francis to the party. Ron declined
because he "had to watch his daughter." He then reached out and shook my
friend's hand! I know this isn't r.s.b., but I don't think Barry Bonds
would be this polite in this situation.
George
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From: pat@fegmania.wustl.edu (Pat Niemeyer)
Subject: Re: $25 network
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
Lines: 14
Reply-To: pat@fegmania.wustl.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: fegmania.wustl.edu
Originator: pat@fegmania
>>The same folks now have out LBL (Little Big Lan) for $75. I think you
>>get it for $50 if you already own $25 Network. LBL works with Arcnet,
>>parallel ports, and serial ports in any combination for up to 250 or so
>>nodes.
No flames please, but I picked up this discussion a bit late and I
am really curious...
What exactly *is* the $25 network?
Something to hack together N serial cables?
Something with N serial drivers?
Thanks,
Pat
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From: iis@netcom.com (International Imaging Syste)
Subject: List of Favorite Windows Goodies?
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 9
Is anyone maintaining a list of favorite shareware and public domain Windows
software?
I have several such lists for MSDOS, but they are really light on Windows
stuff.
David Arnstein
International Imaging Systems
arnstein@iis.sun.com
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From: higgins@fnala.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey)
Subject: NASA Ames server (was Re: Space Station Redesign, JSC Alternative #4)
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
Lines: 14
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnala.fnal.gov
In article <1993Apr26.152722.19887@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, kjenks@jsc.nasa.gov (Ken Jenks [NASA]) writes:
> I just posted the GIF files out for anonymous FTP on server ics.uci.edu.
[...]
> Sorry it took
> me so long to get these out, but I was trying for the Ames server,
> but it's out of space.
How ironic.
Bill Higgins, Beam Jockey | "Treat your password like
Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory | your toothbrush. Don't let
Bitnet: HIGGINS@FNAL.BITNET | anybody else use it--
Internet: HIGGINS@FNAL.FNAL.GOV | and get a new one every
SPAN/Hepnet: 43011::HIGGINS | six months." --Cliff Stoll
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From: yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu (Brian Yamauchi)
Subject: Inflatable Mile-Long Space Billboards (was Re: Vandalizing the sky.)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Lines: 70
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: yuggoth.ces.cwru.edu
In-reply-to: enzo@research.canon.oz.au's message of Tue, 20 Apr 1993 22:36:55 GMT
In article <C5t05K.DB6@research.canon.oz.au> enzo@research.canon.oz.au (Enzo Liguori) writes:
>WHAT'S NEW (in my opinion), Friday, 16 April 1993 Washington, DC
>1. SPACE BILLBOARDS! IS THIS ONE THE "SPINOFFS" WE WERE PROMISED?
>In 1950, science fiction writer Robert Heinlein published "The
>Man Who Sold the Moon," which involved a dispute over the sale of
>rights to the Moon for use as billboard. NASA has taken the firsteps toward this
>hideous vision of the future. Observers were
>startled this spring when a NASA launch vehicle arrived at the
>pad with "SCHWARZENEGGER" painted in huge block letters on the
>side of the booster rockets. Space Marketing Inc. had arranged
>for the ad to promote Arnold's latest movie.
Well, if you're going to get upset with this, you might as well direct
some of this moral outrage towards Glavcosmos as well. They pioneered
this capitalist application of booster adverts long before NASA.
(Sign of the times: a Sony logo on a Soyuz launcher...)
>Now, Space Marketing
>is working with University of Colorado and Livermore engineers on
>a plan to place a mile-long inflatable billboard in low-earth
>orbit.
This sounds like something Lowell Wood would think of. Does anyone
know if he's involved?
>NASA would provide contractual launch services. However,
>since NASA bases its charge on seriously flawed cost estimates
>(WN 26 Mar 93) the taxpayers would bear most of the expense. This
>may look like environmental vandalism, but Mike Lawson, CEO of
>Space Marketing, told us yesterday that the real purpose of the
>project is to help the environment! The platform will carry ozone
>monitors he explained--advertising is just to help defray costs.
This may be the purpose for the University of Colorado people. My
guess is that the purpose for the Livermore people is to learn how to
build large, inflatable space structures.
>..........
>What do you think of this revolting and hideous attempt to vandalize
>the night sky? It is not even April 1 anymore.
If this is true, I think it's a great idea.
Learning how to build to build structures in space in an essential
step towards space development, and given that Freedom appears to be
shrinking towards the vanishing point, I question whether NASA's space
station is going to provide much, if any, knowledge in this area.
(Especially if a design such as Faget's wingless orbiter is chosen...)
If such a project also monitors ozone depletion and demonstrates
creative use of (partial) private sector funding in the process -- so
much the better.
>Is NASA really supporting this junk?
And does anyone have any more details other than what was in the WN
news blip? How serious is this project? Is this just in the "wild
idea" stage or does it have real funding?
>Are protesting groups being organized in the States?
Not yet. Though, if this project goes through, I suppose The Return
of Jeremy Rifkin is inevitable...
--
_______________________________________________________________________________
Brian Yamauchi Case Western Reserve University
yamauchi@alpha.ces.cwru.edu Department of Computer Engineering and Science
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From: jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Josh Hopkins)
Subject: DC-Y trajectory simulation
Keywords: SSTO, Delta Clipper
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 91
I've been to three talks in the last month which might be of interest. I've
transcribed some of my notes below. Since my note taking ability is by no means
infallible, please assume that all factual errors are mine. Permission is
granted to copy this without restriction.
Note for newbies: The Delta Clipper project is geared towards producing a
single staget to orbit, reusable launch vehicle. The DC-X vehicle is a 1/3
scale vehicle designed to test some of the concepts invovled in SSTO. It is
currently undergoing tests. The DC-Y vehicle would be a full scale
experimental vehicle capable of reaching orbit. It has not yet been funded.
On April 6th, Rocky Nelson of MacDonnell Douglas gave a talk entitled
"Optimizing Techniques for Advanced Space Missions" here at the University of
Illinois. Mr Nelson's job involves using software to simulate trajectories and
determine the optimal trajectory within given requirements. Although he is
not directly involved with the Delta Clipper project, he has spent time with
them recently, using his software for their applications. He thus used
the DC-Y project for most of his examples. While I don't think the details
of implicit trajectory simulation are of much interest to the readers (I hope
they aren't - I fell asleep during that part), I think that many of you will
be interested in some of the details gleaned from the examples.
The first example given was the maximization of payload for a polar orbit. The
main restriction is that acceleration must remain below 3 Gs. I assume that
this is driven by passenger constraints rather than hardware constraints, but I
did not verify that. The Delta Clipper Y version has 8 engines - 4 boosters
and 4 sustainers. The boosters, which have a lower isp, are shut down in
mid-flight. Thus, one critical question is when to shut them down. Mr Nelson
showed the following plot of acceleration vs time:
______
3 G /| / |
/ | / | As ASCII graphs go, this is actually fairly
/ | / | good. The big difference is that the lines
2 G / |/ | made by the / should be curves which are
/ | concave up. The data is only approximate, as
/ | the graph wasn't up for very long.
1 G / |
|
|
0 G |
^ ^
~100 sec ~400 sec
As mentioned before, a critical constraint is that G levels must be kept below
3. Initially, all eight engines are started. As the vehicle burns fuel the
accelleration increases. As it gets close to 3G, the booster engines are
throtled back. However, they quickly become inefficient at low power, so it
soon makes more sense to cut them off altogether. This causes the dip in
accelleration at about 100 seconds. Eventually the remaining sustainer engines
bring the G level back up to about 3 and then hold it there until they cut
out entirely.
The engine cutoff does not acutally occur in orbit. The trajectory is aimed
for an altitude slightly higher than the 100nm desired and the last vestiges of
air drag slow the vehicle slightly, thus lowering the final altitude to
that desired.
Questions from the audience: (paraphrased)
Q: Would it make sense to shut down the booster engines in pairs, rather than
all at once?
A: Very perceptive. Worth considering. They have not yet done the simulation. Shutting down all four was part of the problem as given.
Q: So what was the final payload for this trajectory?
A: Can't tell us. "Read Aviation Leak." He also apparently had a good
propulsion example, but was told not to use it.
My question: Does anyone know if this security is due to SDIO protecting
national security or MD protecting their own interests?
The second example was reentry simulation, from orbit to just before the pitch
up maneuver. The biggest constraint in this one is aerodynamic heating, and
the parameter they were trying to maximize was crossrange. He showed graphs
of heating using two different models, to show that both were very similar,
and I think we were supposed to assume that this meant they were very accurate.
The end result was that for a polar orbit landing at KSC, the DC-Y would have
about 30 degrees of crossrange and would start it's reentry profile about
60 degrees south latitude.
I would have asked about the landing maneuvers, but he didn't know about that
aspect of the flight profile.
--
Josh Hopkins jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
"Find a way or make one."
-attributed to Hannibal
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From: joachim@kih.no (joachim lous)
Subject: Re: TIFF: philosophical significance of 42
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Marc T. Kaufman (kaufman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
> -> Does anyone have any other suggestions where the 42 came from?
> At this moment the King, who had been for some time busily writing in
> his note-book, called out "Silence!" and read out from his book
> "Rule Forty-two. All persons more than a mile high to leave the court."
> Everybody looked at Alice.
> "I'm not a mile high," said Alice.
> "You are," said the King.
> "Nearly two miles high," added the queen.
> "Well, I sha'n't go, at any rate," said Alice; "besides, that's not
> a regular rule: you invented it just now."
> "It's the oldest rule in the book," said the King.
> "Then it ought to be Number One," said Alice.
Does anybody have a collection of occurances of 42? (before and after
The Guide). If not, I would like to receive any odd bits you might know.
postings to alt.fan.douglas.adams.
--
_______________________________
/ _ L* / _ / . / _ /_ "One thing is for sure: The sheep
/ _) /()(/(/)//)) /_ ()(/_) / / Is NOT a creature of the earth."
/ \_)~ (/ Joachim@kih.no / /
/_______________________________/ / -The back-masking on 'Haaden II'
/_______________________________/ from 'Exposure' by Robert Fripp.
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From: js8484@albnyvms.bitnet
Subject: Re: Pleasant Yankee Surprises
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In article <120399@netnews.upenn.edu>, sepinwal@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Alan Sepinwall) writes:
>
>Some pleasant (and then some not so pleasant) surprises about the 1993
>edition of the Bronx Bombers so far.
>
>First, the pleasant:
>
> 1)Spike Owen. All through spring training, this guy was
> looking like the second coming of Mike Gallego, but with
> even worse hitting. Now the guy is third in the major leagues
> in BA, and he's ranked pretty high in total hits and runs
> scored. I know it's still early in the season, but he and
> Pat Kelly (more on him in a minute) have provided a lot of
> spark at the bottom of the order that's given the big guys
> (Mattingly, Tartabull, O'Neill) plenty of RBI opportunities.
> Let's hope he keeps this up.
>
> 2)Pat Kelly. The guy is finally showing some of the ability
> that led Stick Michael to label him a "star for the 90s".
> I wouldn't go that far, but Kelly looks infinitely improved
> at bat (I guess the tips he took from Boggs in spring training
> really paid off. Huh! And here I thought Boggs would never
> do anything to help anybody besides himself!). And his glove,
> like always, has been terrific (he and Mattingly comprise the
> best defensive right side of the infield in all of baseball IMHO).
>
> 3)Paul O'Neill. We had to get rid of Roberto Kelly, partly
> because he was under too much pressure in NY to be the next
> Barry Bonds (he won't do that in Cincy, either), and partly
> because he had this real unprofessional tendency to give up
> in the second half of the year. I just felt that we could've
> gotten more for him than O'Neill. Well, so far, O'Neill is
> turning out just fine. He looks like he should be able to
> duplicate (if not surpass) Mel Hall's numbers from last year,
> and he keeps opposing pitchers from pitching around Tartabull.
> Now, if only Buck would play him against lefties some more to
> see what he can do!
>
> 4)Wickman. A friend made a comparison between Wickman and Jack
> Morris - they never have impressive stats but they always
> find some way to win (although Morris seems to be losing that
> ability). I figured that Wickman would be the least important
> part of the Steve Sax trade (best trade since we got that Ruth
> guy), maybe winding up as a good middle reliever. But I like what
> I've seen so far. He doesn't pitch pretty, but he gets the job done.
>
> 5)Key. What's going on here? Key was just supposed to provide
> the rotation with some stability (you know, shore up the left
> side, provide experience, get maybe 15 wins), and here this guy
> is *dominating* everybody he faces! Who needs Maddux or Cone (0-2)?
> I'll take Key any day.
>
>And now, the not so pleasant surprises:
>
> 1)Spike Owen. Sure, he's hitting like crazy, but the guy *cannot*
> field to save his life! And they said he was brought in to
> provide defense? Velarde, Stankiewicz, and even Silvestri
> are better defensively than Owen.
Remember - it's still early. Look for his offense to tail off, and his
defense to improve (hopefully). He has that rep because I heard that either
last year, or over the last 5 years, or something like that - he has the third
highest fielding percentage among major league shortstops - behind C.R. and
Tony (I'm not gonna help this sorry Mets team at all) Fernandez. I do agree
though that he has not looked all that impressive in the field thus far.
>
> 2)Tartabull. The book on Tartabull was, keep him healthy and
> he'll produce. Well, he hasn't done too much so far. Sure. he's
> hit a few homers, but those were all solo shots, and he hasn't
> gotten any of the "big" RBIs that your cleanup man is supposed
> to give you. Then again, he had a slow start last year (once he
> got off the DL, that is) and turned into a one-man wrecking crew
> late in the year, so we'll see.
>
> 3)The Bullpen. UGH!!!!!What happened? We were supposed to have
> one of the most solid pens in the majors! Meanwhile, the pen
> has already blown three saves (maybe more - I haven't checked).
> The great Howe/Farr lefty/righty tandem? Farr's ERA is in the
> 20s or 30s, and Howe's is.....infinite. (I didn't think such
> a thing was possible, but it is). Hopefully, they'll get their
> acts together, or else Buck's gonna burn out the starters
> for fear that the bullpen'll blow a lead.
>
>In the immortal words of the Scooter, "Holy Cow, Seaver! That Johnny Key
>guy can pitch, can't he?"
>
>See you in the Series!
>
>-Alan
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From: gdoherty@us.oracle.com (Greg Doherty)
Subject: BMW '90 K75RT For Sale
Distribution: ca
Organization: Oracle Corporation
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of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.
[this is posted for a friend, please reply to dschick@holonet.net]
1990 BMW K75RT FOR SALE
Asking 5900.00 or best offer.
This bike has a full faring and is great for touring or commuting. It has
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saddle bag (the left one; the right side bag was stolen), a Harro tank bag
(the large one), and an Ungo Box alarm. Interested? Then Please drop me a
line.
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