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From: allanh@sco.COM (Allan J. Heim) Subject: Re: Ban All Firearms ! Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Lines: 34 jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu: Firearms tend to fall into this low dollar/pound area. It would not be economic to smuggle them in. All production would have to be local. There are not all that many people who have both the skill AND motivation to assemble worthwhile firearms from scratch. High-ranking crime figures could obtain imported Uzis and such, but the average person, and average thug, would be lucky to get a zip-gun - and would pay through the nose for it. Good point you make. However, a zip gun, by definition, is a crude, homemade gun--certainly not something capable of sustained, accurate fire, but it would be useful as a means of getting a normal gun. Recall the tiny, single-shot pistols made by the Allies during World War II for use by partisans. They were essentially well-made zipguns, incapable of effective fire beyond a few feet. But they were useful as a means of killing German soldiers for their guns. Also note that the crowd-pleasin' favorite, the Sten gun, was specifically designed to require as little machine work as possible. The point's been made here that one could make a Sten clone with steel tubing, hand tools and a welder. I still think that while the point is good, I think there's a difference between marijuana and firearms, in that quality marijuana can be grown locally; there's no need to import the stuff. If guns are banned, I think the demand for "real" guns will be sufficient to make smuggling economically feasible, thus rendering a ban moot. In any case, the result would be the same--people who aren't criminals won't have firearms, and "bad guys" will continue to have access to them, one way or another. And I don't see that as a necessary situation. -- Allan J. Heim allanh@sco.COM ...!uunet!sco!allanh +1 408 427 7813
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From: harter5255@iscsvax.uni.edu Subject: Not all deals are bad... Organization: University of Northern Iowa Lines: 30 Fellow netters, I just wanted to let you know that there are a few honest and good people out there (even outside of Iowa). I'm sorry if anyone thinks that I am wasting space, but I thought you might want some relief from the "So-and-so is a thief" posts. Not that I think we shouldn't hear about the bad deals, but it would be nice to hear some good news once in a while. After seeing his post on one of the for sale groups, I mailed Mr. Mark Miller a request for his copy of WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS. He suggested a price of $50 in his ad, but when I phoned him, he quoted $40 plus shipping. That sounded more than fair to me, so I told him that I would send him a check the next day. Imagine my surprise when I logged into my account the following day and found a message from him saying that it had already been sold (after I had just mailed the money order). After another E-Mail message to him, he apologized and assured me that it was a mistake - I was the one who he was holding it for. He sent the package as soon as he got the money, along with a letter stating a transfer of license. This wasn't good enough for WordPerfect, so I asked him to fill out one of their forms. No problem - we thought. It took three times to get it to the right address (my fault). Anyway, he mailed me the form for my signature and included a Workbook that I had no idea was included in the deal. Again, he apologized for not sending it before. I now have the world's best word processor and a renewed hope in the world that there are a few good ones left. I recoend that if you ever see that Mark is selling anything thatat you may want, give him a call. If I had the choice, I would purchase all of my software from him. Bravo, Mr. Miller! - Kevin Harter
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From: michael@jester.GUN.de (Michael Gerhards) Distribution: world Subject: Re: Western Digital HD info needed X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Organization: private COHERENT system Lines: 12 Holly KS (cs3sd3ae@maccs.mcmaster.ca) wrote: > My Western Digital also has three sets of pins on the back. I am using it with > another hard drive as well and the settings for the jumpers were written right > on the circuit board of the WD drive......MA SL ?? The ??-jumper is used, if the other drive a conner cp3xxx. no jumper set: drive is alone MA: drive is master SL: drive is slave Michael -- * michael@jester.gun.de * Michael Gerhards * Preussenstrasse 59 * * Germany 4040 Neuss * Voice: 49 2131 82238 *
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From: bytor@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us Subject: Lupus Keywords: Information wanted Article-I.D.: cruzio.5254 Reply-To: bytor@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us Lines: 12 I have a friend who has just been diagnosed with Lupus, and I know nothing about this disease. The only thing I do know is that this is some sort of skin disease, and my friend shows no skin rashes - in fact, they used a blood test to determine what had been wrong with an on going sacro- illiac joint problem. I am finding a hard time finding information on this disease. Could anyone please enlighten me as to the particulars of this disease. please feel free to E-mail me at bytor@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us Thanks in advance.
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From: tichauer@valpso.hanse.de (Manfredo Tichauer) Subject: Re: Israel's Expansion II Organization: "The Private Site of Manfredo Tichauer" Lines: 83 ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes: > I'm not ignorant of the Holocaust and know more > about Nazi Germany than most people (maybe including you). You really belong to the 25-30% of ignorants in USA who don't know what the Holocaust ("Shoa" should be the real word) was. First you write in Message-ID: <1993Apr24.203620.6531@Virginia.EDU> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1993 20:36:20 GMT > I think the Israeli press might be a tad bit biased in > reporting the events. I doubt the Propaganda machine of Goering ^^^^^^^ and later, as somebody informed you about your gross mistake, you write in Message-ID: <1993Apr25.181351.1373@Virginia.EDU> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1993 18:13:51 GMT > First let me correct myself in that it was Goerbels and ^^^^^^^^ > not Goering (Airforce) who ran the Nazi propaganda machine. instead of Joseph GOEBBELS. And you dare to say that you "know more about Nazi Germany than most people (maybe including "us")" ? I'm sure you learned the history of Nazi Germany AND Austria from your family. > What I resent is ignorant statements that call people > names when they disagree with your position. Opposing the > atrocities commited by the Israeli governement hardly qualifies > as anti-semitism. If you think name calling is a valid form of > argument in intellectual circles, you need to get out more > often. Trying to make comparisons between Israels politics and Nazi German- Austrian politics shows only your degree of ignorance (high), intellect (low), humanity (none) and antisemitism (average). I respect anybody who dissagrees with me as long as he respects me and discusses in a civilized manner. I would never say that anybody that critizises Israel and/or its politics is an antisemite, except he uses antisemitic vocabulary/terminology/demagogy. Israel is not a perfect country and its politicians also commits errors, even some of them are corrupt (like politicians in any other country), but they carry a huge burden: to care for the safety of ALL its citizens, and that is really not an easy task in a country that is surrounded by enemies who only expect that Israel commits the ONE BIG ERROR and wipe the country (and its Jewish citizens plus the so-called collaborators, arabs that wanted to live in peace with their Jewish neighbours) of the map. As I said, Israel is not a perfect country, but it is the ONLY democracy in the whole Middle-East and the only country in the world where Jews from everywhere can have a refuge in case of persecutions in the countries they are living. Our long history has taught us that we cannot rely on non-Jewish nations and its governments: as soon as there are more or les big social-economical-political problems in any country, the first ones that pay for the broken glasses are the Jews, and later the other minorities of the country. > I don't think the suffering of some Jews during WWII ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > justifies the crimes commited by the Israeli government. Any > attempt to call Civil liberterians like myself anti-semetic is > not appreciated. This is really outrageous: 6.000.000 murdered Jews, besides the thousands who survived the Shoa in some way or another, and the rest of the living ones mourning for all of them ! I don't know what you call a "Civil Libertarian" (never heard about them) but I know only one thing: if all of them think like you do it, then "Civil Libertarians" is a new denomination for Antisemites. May other Civil Libertarians come to word to this group so that we can learn if A.Beyer and me are right (that Civil Libertarians are Antisemites), or that I'm wrong and he is missusing that word. BTW, I couldn't care less for what Andi Beyer appreciates. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Manfredo Tichauer M. EMAIL : tichauer@valpso.hanse.de Opitzstrasse 14 VOICE : (++ 49 40) 27.42.27 2000 Hamburg 60 - GERMANY FAX : (++ 49 40) 270.53.09 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: kehoe@netcom.com (Thomas David Kehoe) Subject: Re: Telephone Controlled Power Bar Needed Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Lines: 25 I had a similar idea, for a fax/answering machine switch, to put both machines on one line. You order distinctive ringing from your phone company. This is $3/month here. You get a second (unpublished) phone number. When someone calls this number, your phone rings with short rings instead of long rings. You set up your answering machine on 4 rings and your fax on six rings. You'd give out the new # as your fax #. A device would measure the length of rings. When it detects a short ring, it turns off your answering machine. Five rings later your fax picks up the call. This should be cheaper and more elegant than the $80 switches now available. But that's not what I did. I'm giving out the new # to my friends and customers. This should leave the old # for telemarketers, etc. I won't pick up the phone when I hear the long rings. -- "Why my thoughts are my own, when they are in, but when they are out they are another's." - Susannah Martin, hanged for witchcraft, 1692. Thomas David Kehoe kehoe@netcom.com (408) 354-5926
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From: slosser@ntsc-rd.navy.MIL (Steve Slosser) Subject: UNIX interest group: Where is it? Organization: The Internet Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu To: "xpert" <xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu> I know that this is not the correct place to post this, but I have exhausted all other logical options. I used to be on the INFO-UNIX newsgroup mailer. The mailers mysteriously quite coming around the end of last year. All e-mails requesting that I be placed back on the list have been ignored. I have been unable to locate the administrator of this list. If anyone knows of the internet address that I can send a the request to get back on this list, can you please send it to me. If you don't know of this specific newsgroup mailer, I would appreciate the address of *any* UNIX-related newsgroup. Thanks. Cutoff, Steve slosser@ntsc-rd.navy.mil PS - Sorry for the non-X-related question.
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From: admiral@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Steve C Liu) Subject: Best record ever in baseball Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA Lines: 19 Distribution: usa Expires: 5/9/93 NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Summary: Can you believe it? Of all teams, I believe the Cubs have the best record ever in baseball. Sometime way far back. 110+ and something. Admiral Steve C. Liu ____________________________________________________________________________ |Admiral Steve C. Liu Internet Address: admiral@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu| |Commander-In-Chief of the Security Division of the Pi Club - Earth Chapter| | President of the Earth Chapter of the Pi Club - Founded April 1990 | |1993 World Champions - Baltimore Orioles - Why Not? - Series in the Yards| | 1992-1993 Stanley Cup Champions - Washington Capitals | | "Committee for the Liberation and Intergration of Terrifying Organisms | | and their Rehabilitation Into Society, the only problem is that the | | abbreviation is CLITORIS." from the "Polymorph" episode of Red Dwarf | |*****The Bangles are the greatest female rock band that ever existed!*****| | This sig has been brought to you by... Frungy! The Sport of Kings! | |"My God man, drilling holes through his head is not the answer!" Dr. McCoy| |"You know, Susanna Hoffs has a really nice ass." - comment by M. Flanagan | | The Pi Club - Creating the largest .signatures for the past nine months | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) Subject: Re: Why I won't be getting my Low Rider this year Organization: AT&T Summary: Ergonomics of gas tanks Keywords: congratz Lines: 30 In article <1993Mar30.214419.923@pb2esac.uucp>, prahren@pb2esac.uucp (Peter Ahrens) writes: > In article <1993Mar29.225236.9061@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) writes: > >[...] I had planned to get an HD this year...but instead I > >took delivery on a brand new male offspring(er) last Monday... > > Sounds like you should have been doing your planning LAST year, given > Harley-Davidson's product delivery lag and the human gestation cycle. Or perhaps any planning at all. :-) Hiya Pete, still got that CBX? Nice to hear from you again! > >And, yes, I finally did figure out why this happens, and I have > >taken steps to ensure [a storkish repetition]... > > That would be low drag bars and way rad rearsets for the FJ, so that the > ergonomic constraints would have contraceptive consequences? Ouch. :-) This brings to mind one of the recommendations in the Hurt Study. Because the rear of the gas tank is in close proximity to highly prized and easily damaged anatomy, Hurt et al recommended that manufacturers build the tank so as to reduce the, er, step function provided when the rider's body slides off of the seat and onto the gas tank in the unfortunate event that the bike stops suddenly and the rider doesn't. I think it's really inspiring how the manufacturers have taken this advice to heart in their design of bikes like the CBR900RR and the GTS1000A. Chuck Rogers car377@torreys.att.com car377@cbnewsj.att.com
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From: sphughes@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Shaun P. Hughes) Subject: Who should be hearing my views on Clipper ? Organization: San Francisco State University Distribution: na Lines: 18 Being a browser of this group for some time, and being very concerned about the clipper chip proposal, I am hoping someone with more knowledge can help out. Who would be the most influential people to write to, protesting the obvious next step hinted at by this proposal ? (Heads of what committees, etc.) What are the major flaws in the plan ? (From a cryptological standpoint) -- Shaun P. Hughes "Facts are Stupid Things." sphughes@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu Ronald Reagan Republican National Finger for PGP 2.2 Public Key Convention 1988
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From: jsm1@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Jason S. MacDonald) Subject: Re: LC Ram Upgrade will be SLOW! Nntp-Posting-Host: crux1.cit.cornell.edu Reply-To: jsm1@cornell.edu Organization: Ono-Sendai Corporation Lines: 35 douce@tfsquad.mn.org (Andrew Geweke) writes: > I cannot speak for Dale. But I am quite sure that the Macintosh >uses the full 16-bit or 32-bit data path to its full advantage. That is, >it is running as fast with two or four 30-pin SIMMs as it would with one >72-pin SIMM. Now, it may be that longword accesses (assuming a 32-bit >data path here) get the first byte from the first SIMM, the second byte >from the second, and so on. This would mean that each longword of memory >is actually split among four SIMMs, one for each byte. On the other hand, >it could be that the SIMMs are interleaved by word or longword (not just >by byte), or they could be successive in memory, and the memory >controller deals with the eight-bit data path that each one has. I >suspect, though, that they are interleaved to some extent so that 32 bits >can be read or written at once. This would indicate a byte-level >interleave. > I am NOT confusing this with the new machines' longword >interleave with two 72-pin SIMMs of the same sort, although that seems to >be the same sort of idea. There, you get an essential 64-bit data path ro >(excuse me, to) RAM instead of just a 32-bit one. Yes, the CPU can't >handle it, but when writing to successive addresses it speeds something >up. > So, Dale, am I right? 30-pin SIMMs are interleaved by bytes, >allowing the full data bus? Or, as is common with Usenet and me in >particular, am I as clueless as everyone else? What conclusion can be drawn from this? I'm trying to figure out what kind of memory configuration for the LC III (32-bit datapath) would be fastest. Any ideas? Thanks, Jason MacDonald -- - Jason Scott MacDonald - jsm1@cornell.edu - jsm1@crux3.cit.cornell.edu "Technology sufficiently advanced is ____ indistinguishable from magic." \ / "Cats exist so that we -- Arthur C. Clarke \/ may caress the lion."
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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) Subject: Possible Canadian WC Team? Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Lines: 39 This is an all-point team for the Canadian NHLers who are not playoff bound... GOALIES Bill Ranford, Edmonton Sean Burke, Hartford Peter Sidorkiewicz, Ottawa DEFENSEMEN Zarley Zalapski, Hartford Norm MacIver, Ottawa Garry Galley, Philadelphia Greg Hawgood, Philadelphia Dave Manson, Edmonton Mark Tinordi, Minnesota CENTERS Mark Messier, N. Y. Rangers Geoff Sanderson, Hartford Brian Bradley, Tampa Bay Rod Brind'Amour, Philadelphia LEFT WINGS Adam Graves, N. Y. Rangers Chris Kontos, Tampa Bay Patrick Poulin, Hartford Shayne Corson, Edmonton RIGHT WINGS Pat Verbeek, Hartford Russ Courtnall, Minnesota Mike Gartner, N. Y. Rangers Kevin Dineen, Philadelphia =============================================================================== GO CALGARY FLAMES! Al MacInnis for Norris! Gary Roberts for Hart and Smythe! GO EDMONTON OILERS! Go for playoffs next year! Stay in Edmonton! =============================================================================== Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu) rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From: corleyg@ul.ie Subject: Microstrip help wanted Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland Lines: 8 I need information on microstrip circuit design especially filter design for the 1-3GHz range. Can you recommend any good books, journals, or microstrip circuit design software. . all help appreciated Gerry Corley, ECE Department, Univesity of Limerick, Ireland.
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From: house@helios.usq.EDU.AU (ron house) Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is Organization: University of Southern Queensland Lines: 21 judi@wam.umd.edu (Jay T Stein -- objectively subjective) writes: >Question: Is there any effective difference between: >"Objective values exist, and there is disagreement over what they are" >and >"Values are subjective?" >I don't see any. The first means that some aspect of reality contains objective values. The second means that values are a reference to some preference of the individual. In the first case, it is possible that some future discovery might invalidate certain views re what objective values are. -- Ron House. USQ (house@helios.usq.edu.au) Toowoomba, Australia.
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From: neff123@garnet.berkeley.edu (Stephen Kearney) Subject: Re: NDW Norton Desktop for Windows Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 7 NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu (NDW) >I would like to know how to STOP or uninstall this program!! If an Uninstall icon doesn't exist in the Norton Desktop Apps group: Run NDW's install program with /u.
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From: hwrvo@kato.lahabra.chevron.com (W.R. Volz) Subject: Re: Norton Desktop for Windows 2.2 Organization: Chevron Oil Field Research Company Lines: 18 In article <1993Apr2.180451.15428@exu.ericsson.se>, ebuwoo@ebu.ericsson.se (James Woo 66515) writes: |> Hi, |> I wonder if anyone has had a chance try out Norton Desktop for Windows |> version 2.2 yet. I understand the upgrade cost from 2.0 to 2.2 is about |> $20.00 but I have no idea what the new version has. |> I got the offer to upgrade this weekend. It's $19 + $8.50 shipping and handling. The S+H seem way too steep for just a couple of disks. Sounds like ripoff city. Can this purchased at vendors? -- ====================== Bill Volz Chevron Petroleum Technology Co. Earth Model/Interpretation & Analysis Division. P.O. Box 446, La Habra, CA 90633-0446 Phone: (310) 694-9340 Fax: (310) 694-7063
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From: steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) Subject: Re: Limiting Govt (Was Re: Employment (was Re: Why not concentrate...) Summary: Questions about "non-initiated force" Organization: Free the Barbers, Inc. Lines: 69 Nntp-Posting-Host: thor.isc-br.com In article <C5JH23.Eu8@encore.com> rcollins@encore.com writes: >In article <1993Apr15.164605.8439@isc-br.isc-br.com>, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes: >|> ...you don't specify the means through which the government >|> is to be prevented from becoming the tool of business interests. As a >|> left-wing, big government, conventional liberal, I'm just as willing as >|> you are to vote against anti-competitive regulations that favor auto >|> dealers. >|> >|> But what I hear from libertarians is a desire to limit incumbents' terms, >|> to weaken government by eliminating its power to enforce antitrust laws, >|> and a desire to eliminate legislator's pay. Each strikes me as a >|> particularly ineffective way to insure that auto dealers and other special >|> interests cannot influence public policy. In fact, they seem clearly >|> designed to accomplish the opposite. > >...If government is not allowed to >use "non-initiated force" to achieve its goals, than no special interest >can influence the government to use non-initiated force on their behalf. Fine. Libertarians and anarchists are not alone in being uncomfortable with the use of state sponsored coercion. The notion that coercion can be virtually eliminated in a society (or more properly that once it is eliminated on the part of the state it is no longer worth serious consideration) is a view that is peculiar to libertarians and anarchists. For example, does "non-initiated force" (coercion) include tax collection? Does it include the minimal level of regulation of commerce envisioned by Adam Smith? Since coercion can be exercised by actors other than the state, how is the state to deal with it? Exclusively through after the fact arbitration/legal compulsion? > >The means to reaching such a restricted government is another topic >which I'll address briefly. It certainly won't happen until >libertarianism is the dominate philosophy. What means do we have to >make libertarianism the dominate philosophy? Statists run the education >monopoly, so we have to be creative. The Advocates for Self-Government >reports 85% of their Seminar 1 participants "embrace" libertarianism. >That's the best means I've seen yet. We should lobby for compulsory >Seminar 1 attendance. :) [in jest!] Well, I must admit that the picture of libertarians as Amway participants is somewhat more reassuring than the idea of them trying to govern a complex, conflictual, industrial society. I'd venture to point out, however, that if libertarians couldn't convince at least 85% of a group of "seminar participants" to "embrace" their philosophy, their propaganda skills need to be honed. Frankly, however, it is no great trick to create a government for a society in which (almost) everyone is assumed to agree about what is a proper government policy. Once that is assumed, all sorts of annoying formalities can be dispensed with, elections, police, etc. And as Mr. Marx said, the state will just wither away. On the way there, however, would you like to explain how eliminating virtually all policies that restrain private coercion in the current society will help us to live happier lives? Or is it like socialism; just some short-term pain that we'll have to bear until everyone has had the benefit of "re-education" through regular "seminar" training? jsh > >Roger Collins -- Steve Hendricks | DOMAIN: steveh@thor.ISC-BR.COM "One thing about data, it sure does cut| UUCP: ...!uunet!isc-br!thor!steveh the bulls**t." - R. Hofferbert | Ma Bell: 509 838-8826
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From: pes3@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Paul Eric Stoufflet) Subject: Re: Die Koresh Die! Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixf.cc.columbia.edu Reply-To: pes3@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Paul Eric Stoufflet) Organization: Columbia University Lines: 23 In article <1r04h8$q5a@umcc.umcc.umich.edu> tim@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (Tim Tyler) writes: > I was hoping that --however the situation was resolved-- the >property would remain intact, so the gov't could sell it to help pay for the >hundreds of thousands of dollars of expenses incurred having to babysit >Krazy Koresh & his flock of sheep. > In some South American countries, after political undesirables disappeared, the family would get a notice of death and a bill for the disposal of the body. You apparently think that would be a good idea. The Federal Government initiated this action against Koresh and his followers, surrounded them for 51 days, engaged in psychological warfare, used heavy military equipment against US citizens on US soil; and now that the compound caught fire while they were pumping in CS gas after knocking holes in the building; disavows all responsibility. Big Brother is NOT always right. *** Paul Eric Stoufflet *** Columbia Presbyterian Medical Center *** internet: pes3@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu *** All opinions are my own
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From: slc@a2.cim.cdc.com (Steve Chesney x4662) Subject: Re: Diamond SS 24X Reply-To: slc@.cdc.com Organization: Metaphase Technology, Inc. Lines: 23 In article <1993Apr22.085129.554@condor.navsses.navy.mil>, zimm@condor.navsses.navy.mil writes: >Greetings! > >I've had a bunch of problems with the 24x. Opening a DOS window on the >desktop can occasionally result in the windows "blowing up" into a set of >horizontal lines, hashing the entire desktop. Nothing can recover this >except to completely exit from Windows. The other irritating problem is >that windows that scroll often overwrite lines rather than actually I posted a similar query and got these replies which I am testing (so far so good).. * turn hardware scrolling off before going into windows (24xmode scrolloff) * in the pif file for dos window, set "emulate text mode" * get the latest drivers from the DiamoND BBS (or cica): dates are 1-20-9. -- Steve Chesney slc@catherine.cim.cdc.com Metaphase Technology Inc. 612-482-4662 (voice) 4233 North Lexington Avenue 612-482-4001 (fax) Arden Hills, MN 55126
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From: hjkim@hyowon.pusan.ac.kr (Hojoong Kim) Subject: Looking for Electronics Dept Info in Austrailia Organization: Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Lines: 13 Hi Netters! I am looking for the list of universities in Austrailia, which has electronics department. I am considering to spend a year for research in Austrailia about communication area.ýé I am interested in Mobile communication areas and spread spectrum communications etc. But I don't have any information about Austrailian Universities. Can anybody recommend a good university in coûßmmunic÷³ation area? Any comments will be welcomed! Bye. Jaehyung Kim
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From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) Subject: Re: islamic genocide Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau Lines: 21 > O.K., so pick former Yugoslavia instead and say their problems are caused > by communism, it doesn't really matter. But I guess religious leaders are > calling for an end to that, too, so it can't be religiously motivated. This > despite the fact that the Christians carve crosses in dead Muslims chests. > Maybe they just want land. Maybe its something else they want. Maybe the > cross carvings are just accidental. I don't know. Just looks suspicious. Most likely the tragic situation in Bosnia is a combination of ethnical and religious motives, where religion is just one attribute that separates the groups from each other. But I must agree that the sad saga in Bosnia is a terrible example of a case where religion is not helping, instead it is used as a weapon against other humans. And my sympathies are mostly on the Bosnian side, it looks like the Serbs are the oppressors, willing to use even Christianity as a weapon against their former friends. Cheers, Kent --- sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center From: Jason Kratz <U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> Subject: Re: My Gun is like my American Express Card Distribution: usa <93104.231 <1993Apr15.184452.27322@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> Lines: 44 In article <1993Apr15.184452.27322@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) says: > >In article <93104.231049U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> Jason Kratz > ><U28037@uicvm.uic.edu >>All your points are very well taken and things that I haven't considered as >>I am not really familiar enough with handguns. > >That's not all that Kratz doesn't know. > >>Hell, a Glock is the last thing that should be switched to. The only thing >>that I know about a Glock is the lack of a real safety on it. Sure there is >>that little thing in the trigger but that isn't too great of a safety. > >Now we know that Kratz doesn't understand what a safety is supposed to >do. (He also confuses "things he can see" with "things that exist"; >Glocks have multiple safeties even though only one is visible from the >outside.) > Excuse me but I do know what I safety is supposed to do. It's basic purpose - not to let the gun fire until you're ready. Christ, I've known that since I had my first Crosman air gun. You don't know me so don't make assumptions about what I know and don't know. I do know that the Glock has multiple safties from reports, looking at them at a gun shop, and friends who own one. >A safety is supposed to keep the gun from going off UNLESS that's >what the user wants. With Glocks, one says "I want the gun to go >off" by pulling the trigger. If the safeties it has make that work, >it has a "real" safety, no matter what Kratz thinks. > >-andy >-- From the things I have read/heard Glocks are always knocked because of the trigger safety. They are supposedly harder to learn to use properly. Every article that I have read can't be wrong about the damn thing. And don't ask me to quote my sources because I don't keep a ton of gun magazines and/or rec.guns articles laying around. Boy, you can't make a simple statement on here without someone getting right on your ass. No wonder why there are so many problems in the world. Everyone takes everything just a little too seriously. By the way, I'm not going to reply to any of this stuff anymore as someone made the good point that this discussion is getting too close to r.g (And yes I know that I had something to do with that). Jason
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From: dduff@col.hp.com (Dave Duff) Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!! Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division Lines: 1 NNTP-Posting-Host: fajita19.cs.itc.hp.com NUT CASE PANICS!!!!JUMPS THE GUN ON THE NET BEFORE GETTING FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!
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From: hhm@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (herschel.h.mayo) Subject: Re: BRAINDEAD Drivers Who Don't Look Ahead-- Organization: Chicago Home for the Morally Challenged Distribution: usa Keywords: bad drivers Lines: 27 > I agree that if traffic is all blocked up and you want to pass, you might > not feel like moving over for someone behind you because you don't want to > give them that one car-length, when they should just wait like you are. > BUT, if you're one of those people that just sit's behind the person, and > doesn't flash them with the high beams, or pull left and flash them, or > ride their bumper, or otherwise tell them that you *do* in fact want to > go by, and you're not just drafting them, then get the hell out of the > way of someone who will! I especially hate it when you flash someone at > the back of a line and they don't 'pass it on'. > And there's also the issue of some cars being more intimidating to get > people out of the way than others... (For instance '85-'86 GTs look > pretty mean in a rearview mirror at night with the foglights on... :^) > There have been plenty of times when I've broken up a pack that a > second-in-line hyundai has been behind for miles... You just need to > know how to get their attention... I'd like to see you use this method on a couple of semi drivers. If they see you, they usually acknowledge by sticking their hand out the window with their middle finger extended. Because it is also obvious to them that there is no clear lane ahead. H.H.M.
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From: scst83@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mr. C.D. Smith) Subject: Re: Homebuilt PAL (EPLD) programer? Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University Lines: 27 Nntp-Posting-Host: goyt.csc.liv.ac.uk In sci.electronics timd@fenian.dell.com writes: >Anyone know a reasonable circuit for programming PALs? I am interested >in programming a wide range of EPLDs but would be happy with something >that could handle a 22V10 or thereabouts. I too would be interested in ANY information on the subject of programing PALS etc..... Better to know what your on about before you start something, I always say. Often saves you a packet as well !! Thanks in advance.. Chris ;-) +====================================================================+ |Name : Mr Chris Smith | Twang on that 'ole guitar ! | |Addrs: scst83@uk.ac.liv | | |Uni : Liverpool University |Quest: To build more and more hardware | |Dgree: Computer Science | | +====================================================================+ "What ever the Sun may be, it is certainly not a ball of flaming gas!" -- D.H. Lawrence. * All views expressed are my own, and reflect that of private thought. *
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From: leech@cs.unc.edu (Jon Leech) Subject: Space FAQ 08/15 - Addresses Supersedes: <addresses_730956515@cs.unc.edu> Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Lines: 230 Distribution: world Expires: 6 May 1993 19:58:29 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: mahler.cs.unc.edu Keywords: Frequently Asked Questions Archive-name: space/addresses Last-modified: $Date: 93/04/01 14:38:55 $ CONTACTING NASA, ESA, AND OTHER SPACE AGENCIES/COMPANIES Many space activities center around large Government or International Bureaucracies. In the US that means NASA. If you have basic information requests: (e.g., general PR info, research grants, data, limited tours, and ESPECIALLY SUMMER EMPLOYMENT (typically resumes should be ready by Jan. 1), etc.), consider contacting the nearest NASA Center to answer your questions. EMail typically will not get you any where, computers are used by investigators, not PR people. The typical volume of mail per Center is a multiple of 10,000 letters a day. Seek the Public Information Office at one of the below, this is their job: NASA (The National Aeronautics and Space Administration) is the civilian space agency of of the United States Federal Government. It reports directly to the White House and is not a Cabinet post such as the military Department of Defense. Its 20K+ employees are civil servants and hence US citizens. Another 100K+ contractors also work for NASA. NASA CENTERS NASA Headquarters (NASA HQ) Washington DC 20546 (202)-358-1600 Ask them questions about policy, money, and things of political nature. Direct specific questions to the appropriate center. NASA Ames Research Center (ARC) Moffett Field, CA 94035 (415)-694-5091 Some aeronautical research, atmosphere reentry, Mars and Venus planetary atmospheres. "Lead center" for Helicopter research, V/STOL, etc. Runs Pioneer series of space probes. NASA Ames Research Center Dryden Flight Research Facility [DFRF] P. O. Box 273 Edwards, CA 93523 (805)-258-8381 Aircraft, mostly. Tested the shuttle orbiter landing characteristics. Developed X-1, D-558, X-3, X-4, X-5, XB-70, and of course, the X-15. NASA Goddard Space Flight Center (GSFC) Greenbelt, MD 20771 [Outside of Washington DC] (301)-344-6255 Earth orbiting unmanned satellites and sounding rockets. Developed LANDSAT. Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) California Institute of Technology 4800 Oak Grove Dr. Pasadena, CA 91109 (818)-354-5011 The "heavies" in planetary research probes and other unmanned projects (they also had a lot to do with IRAS). They run Voyager, Magellan, Galileo, and will run Cassini, CRAF, etc. etc.. For images, probe navigation, and other info about unmanned exploration, this is the place to go. JPL is run under contract for NASA by the nearby California Institute of Technology, unlike the NASA centers above. This distinction is subtle but critical. JPL has different requirements for unsolicited research proposals and summer hires. For instance in the latter, an SF 171 is useless. Employees are Caltech employees, contractors, and for the most part have similar responsibilities. They offer an alternative to funding after other NASA Centers. A fact sheet and description of JPL is available by anonymous FTP in ames.arc.nasa.gov:pub/SPACE/FAQ/JPLDescription NASA Johnson Manned Space Center (JSC) Houston, TX 77058 (713)-483-5111 JSC manages Space Shuttle, ground control of manned missions. Astronaut training. Manned mission simulators. NASA Kennedy Space Flight Center (KSC) Titusville, FL 32899 (407)-867-2468 Space launch center. You know this one. NASA Langley Research Center (LaRC) Hampton, VA 23665 [Near Newport News, VA] (804)-865-2935 Original NASA site. Specializes in theoretical and experimental flight dynamics. Viking. Long Duration Exposure Facility. NASA Lewis Research Center (LeRC) 21000 Brookpark Rd. Cleveland, OH 44135 (216)-433-4000 Aircraft/Rocket propulsion. Space power generation. Materials research. NASA Marshall Space Flight Center (MSFC) Huntsville, AL 35812 (205)-453-0034 Development, production, delivery of Solid Rocket Boosters, External Tank, Orbiter main engines. Propulsion and launchers. Michoud Assembly Facility Orleans Parish New Orleans, LA 70129 (504)-255-2601 Shuttle external tanks are produced here; formerly Michoud produced first stages for the Saturn V. Stennis Space Center Bay St. Louis, Mississippi 39529 (601)-688-3341 Space Shuttle main engines are tested here, as were Saturn V first and second stages. The center also does remote-sensing and technology-transfer research. Wallops Flight Center Wallops Island, VA 23337 (804)824-3411 Aeronautical research, sounding rockets, Scout launcher. Manager, Technology Utilization Office NASA Scientific and Technical Information Facility Post Office Box 8757 Baltimore, Maryland 21240 Specific requests for software must go thru COSMIC at the Univ. of Georgia, NASA's contracted software redistribution service. You can reach them at cosmic@uga.bitnet. NOTE: Foreign nationals requesting information must go through their Embassies in Washington DC. These are facilities of the US Government and are regarded with some degree of economic sensitivity. Centers cannot directly return information without high Center approval. Allow at least 1 month for clearance. This includes COSMIC. The US Air Force Space Command can be contacted thru the Pentagon along with other Department of Defense offices. They have unacknowledged offices in Los Angeles, Sunnyvale, Colorado Springs, and other locations. They have a budget which rivals NASA in size. ARIANESPACE HEADQUARTERS Boulevard de l'Europe B.P. 177 91006 Evry Cedex France ARIANESPACE, INC. 1747 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Suite 875 Washington, DC 20006 (202)-728-9075 EUROPEAN SPACE AGENCY (ESA) 955 L'Enfant Plaza S.W. Washington, D.C. 20024 (202)-488-4158 NATIONAL SPACE DEVELOPMENT AGENCY (NASDA) 4-1 Hamamatsu-Cho, 2 Chome Minato-Ku, Tokyo 105, JAPAN SOYUZKARTA 45 Vologradsij Pr. Moscow 109125 USSR SPACE CAMP Alabama Space and Rocket Center U.S. SPACE CAMP 1 Tranquility Base 6225 Vectorspace Blvd Huntsville, AL 35805 Titusville FL 32780 (205)-837-3400 (407)267-3184 Registration and mailing list are handled through Huntsville -- both camps are described in the same brochure. Programs offered at Space Camp are: Space Camp - one week, youngsters completing grades 4-6 Space Academy I - one week, grades 7-9 Aviation Challenge - one week high school program, grades 9-11 Space Academy II - 8 days, college accredited, grades 10-12 Adult Program - 3 days (editorial comment: it's great!) Teachers Program - 5 days SPACE COMMERCE CORPORATION (U.S. agent for Soviet launch services) 504 Pluto Drive 69th flr, Texas Commerce Tower Colorado Springs, CO 80906 Houston, TX 77002 (719)-578-5490 (713)-227-9000 SPACEHAB 600 Maryland Avenue, SW Suite 201 West Washington, DC 20004 (202)-488-3483 SPOT IMAGE CORPORATION 1857 Preston White Drive, Reston, VA 22091 (FAX) (703)-648-1813 (703)-620-2200 OTHER COMMERCIAL SPACE BUSINESSES Vincent Cate maintains a list with addresses and some info for a variety of companies in space-related businesses. This is mailed out on the space-investors list he runs (see the "Network Resources" FAQ) and is also available by anonymous ftp from furmint.nectar.cs.cmu.edu (128.2.209.111) in /usr/vac/ftp/space-companies. NEXT: FAQ #9/15 - Schedules for space missions, and how to see them
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Subject: Re: islamic authority over women From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) Organization: sgi NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com Lines: 11 In article <1993Apr3.214741.14026@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, snm6394@ultb.isc.rit.edu (S.N. Mozumder ) writes: > > My claim is that a person that committs a crime doesn't believe in > God, for the moment that the crime is committed, at least, whether > they are originally believers or not. To believe is to do good. > Your statistics indicate people that have declared atheism. And doubtless, when an atheist does an act of charity they temporarily become a Baptist. jon.
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From: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley) Subject: Re: Would "clipper" make a good cover for other encryption method? Reply-To: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley) Organization: Edinburgh University Lines: 17 Quoting strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) in article <strnlghtC5t3nH.Is1@netcom.com>: >In article <1993Apr20.032623.3046@eff.org> kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie) writes: > > >>So, don't just think of replacements for clipper, also think of front >>ends. > >This only makes sense if the government prohibits alternative non-escrowed >encryption schemes. Otherwise, why not just use the front end without >clipper? Because that will make private encryption stick out like a sore thumb and the government will start to take a sharp interest in everything you do. __ _____ \/ o\ Paul Crowley pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk \\ // /\__/ Trust me. I know what I'm doing. \X/ Fold a fish for Jesus!
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From: ba@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (B.A. Davis-Howe) Subject: Re: Rosicrucian Order(s) ?! Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 13 ON the subject of how many competing RC orders there are, let me point out the Golden Dawn is only the *outer* order of that tradition. The inner order is the Roseae Rubeae et Aurae Crucis. That's Ruby Rose and Gold Cross, in rough translation. The G.'.D.'. is a Rosicrucian order, as are all derivative groups. Of course, real Rosicrucians never admit to being Rosicrucian. Enjoy the journey! --Br'anArthur Queer, Peculiar, and Wyrd! :-) ****************************************************************************** Closed minds don't want to know. --JJObermark
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From: steve-b@access.digex.com (Steve Brinich) Subject: Re: Off the shelf cheap DES keyseach machine (Was: Re: Corporate acceptance of the wiretap chip) Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net > > :Thousands? Tens of thousands? Do some arithmetic, please... Skipjack > > :has 2^80 possible keys. > > > > We don't yet know if all 80 bits count. > > That doesn't worry me at all; they're not going to cheat at something >they can get caught at. And key size is one of the things that can be >verified externally. Feed lots of random key/input pairs into the >chip, then see what happens to the output.... If the device is designed to use the key that's registered with the Feds, I don't see how you -can- feed it a different key. If the user can change the key to any of the 2^80 possibilities, the main reason for regarding this proposal as unacceptable disappears.
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From: sts@mfltd.co.uk (Steve Sherwood (x5543)) Subject: Re: Virtual Reality for X on the CHEAP! Reply-To: sts@mfltd.co.uk Organization: Micro Focus Ltd, Newbury, England Lines: 39 In article <1r6v3a$rj2@fg1.plk.af.mil>, ridout@bink.plk.af.mil (Brian S. Ridout) writes: |> In article <1993Apr15.134802.21995@mfltd.co.uk>, sts@mfltd.co.uk (Steve Sherwood (x5543)) writes: |> |> Has anyone got multiverse to work ? |> |> |> |> I have built it on 486 svr4, mips svr4s and Sun SparcStation. |> |> |> |> There seems to be many bugs in it. The 'dogfight' and 'dactyl' simply do nothing |> |> (After fixing a bug where a variable is defined twice in two different modules - One needed |> |> setting to static - else the client core-dumped) |> |> |> |> Steve |> |> -- |> |> |> |> Extn 5543, sts@mfltd.co.uk, !uunet!mfocus!sts |> |> +-----------------------------------+------------------------+ Micro Focus |> |> | Just like Pariah, I have no name, | rm -rf * | 26 West Street |> |> | Living in a blaze of obscurity, | "rum ruff splat" | Newbury |> |> | Need courage to survive the day. | | Berkshire |> |> +-----------------------------------+------------------------+ England |> |> (A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with large hammer |> I built it on a rs6000 (my only Motif machine) works fine. I added some objects |> into dogfight so I could get used to flying. This was very easy. |> All in all Cool!. |> Brian The RS6000 compiler is so forgiving, I think that if you mixed COBOL & pascal the C compiler still wouldn't complain. :-) Steve -- Extn 5543, sts@mfltd.co.uk, !uunet!mfocus!sts +-----------------------------------+------------------------+ Micro Focus | Just like Pariah, I have no name, | rm -rf * | 26 West Street | Living in a blaze of obscurity, | "rum ruff splat" | Newbury | Need courage to survive the day. | | Berkshire +-----------------------------------+------------------------+ England (A)bort (R)etry (I)nfluence with large hammer
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From: higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey) Subject: Re: Conference on Manned Lunar Exploration. May 7 Crystal City Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory Lines: 25 Distribution: na NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalf.fnal.gov In article <C5rHoC.Fty@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Josh Hopkins) writes: > I remeber reading the comment that General Dynamics was tied into this, in > connection with their proposal for an early manned landing. Sorry I don't > rember where I heard this, but I'm fairly sure it was somewhere reputable. > Anyone else know anything on this angle? The General Chairman is Paul Bialla, who is some official of General Dynamics. The emphasis seems to be on a scaled-down, fast plan to put *people* on the Moon in an impoverished spaceflight-funding climate. You'd think it would be a golden opportunity to do lots of precusor work for modest money using an agressive series of robot spacecraft, but there's not a hint of this in the brochure. > Hrumph. They didn't send _me_ anything :( You're not hanging out with the Right People, apparently. Bill Higgins, Beam Jockey | "I'm gonna keep on writing songs Fermilab | until I write the song Bitnet: HIGGINS@FNAL.BITNET | that makes the guys in Detroit Internet: HIGGINS@FNAL.FNAL.GOV | who draw the cars SPAN/Hepnet: 43011::HIGGINS | put tailfins on 'em again." --John Prine
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From: pgeltner@netcon.smc.edu (Peter Geltner) Subject: Re: Soundblaster IRQ and Port settings Organization: Santa Monica College, Santa Monica, CA Lines: 23 In article <1qjv95$1t1@bogus.sura.net> vargish@bogus.sura.net (Nicholas Vargish) writes: >A SoundBlater (SB) card is _supposed_ to share IRQ 7 with LPT1 >(parallel printer interface 1), and in general this scheme works well. >However, sometimes there are conflicts -- it seemed to depend on the >software more than anything else. Origin games are especially bitchy >about having the WHOLE interrupt to themselves... :^) > >My solution was to switch the interrupt to IRQ 5, which is unreserved >in contemporary computers (using IRQ 5 for the drives went out with >the XT architechture -- DON'T put the SB in IRQ 5 if you have an XT, >get a new computer instead). This IRQ has been completely stable for >me, and I use my SB to play .mods and .wavs under Linux (a free UN*X >for 386 or better PC-architecture machines) with _no_ problems, as >well as games under DOS... I also use IRQ 5. But there is one disadvantage. Some games assume that the board is using IRQ 7 and have no way to adjust this setting. I had trouble with some of the Lucas Films games. -- Peter Geltner Administrative Dean of Computing Santa Monica College Santa Monica, California 90405
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Subject: Re: "Imaginary" Friends - Dragons & Mice From: martini@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Sheilagh M.B.E. O'Hare) Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas NNTP-Posting-Host: tigger.cc.utexas.edu Lines: 17 He sounds really cute, Morte! Kinds like _pete's dragon_, maybe smaller, maybe a different species.. winge'd? (shakespear wing-ED) I've always hat a horde of mice to turn to for fun & sort of that kind of mouse in Cinderella (walt disney). I grew up sort of as an only child, part time.. my siblings were 10-8-6 years older than me, so i was pretty commonly a different sort of charater in their games (read: non speaking hot cocoa-goffer, stand in (still silent) bad guy/good guy/etc), so my mice were playmates, more than advisors. Could curt, or whomever has a good list of books please post such list, in all sorts of fields, like jungian, condensed buddist/etc philosophies, multiple personailty disorders, or good fiction that has well worked imaginary friends? thanks, sheilagh, wanting a bunch of library catalouge topics to search thru
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From: norris@athena.mit.edu (Richard A Chonak) Subject: Re: tuff to be a Christian? Reply-To: norris@mit.edu Organization: l'organisation, c'est moi Lines: 15 In article <Apr.17.01.10.58.1993.2246@geneva.rutgers.edu>, mdbs@ms.uky.edu (no name) writes: |> |> Parting Question: |> Would you have become a Christian if you had not |> been indoctrinated by your parents? You probably never learned about |> any other religion to make a comparative study. And therefore I claim |> you are brain washed. You write as if no-one ever became a Christian except people from Christian families. This is not true, as quite a few people on this group can attest (including me). -- Richard Aquinas Chonak, norris@mit.edu, Usenet addict, INTP Seeking job change: sys-mgr: VAX, SIS, COBOL, DTR; progr: UNIX, C/++, X
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From: blh@uiboise.idbsu.edu (Broward L. Horne) Subject: " Only $17 / Month! " X-Received: by usenet.pa.dec.com; id AA25085; Fri, 16 Apr 93 07:52:11 -0700 X-Received: by inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com; id AA12308; Fri, 16 Apr 93 07:51:10 -0700 X-Received: by uiboise.idbsu.edu (16.6/16.2) id AA28928; Thu, 15 Apr 93 10:11:24 -0600 X-To: talk.politics.misc.usenet X-Cc: alt.politics.clinton.usenet X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] Lines: 58 Ahhh, remember the days of Yesterday? When we were only going to pay $17 / month? When only 1.2% of the population would pay extra taxes? Remember when a few of us predicted that it wasn't true? :) Remember the Inaugural? Dancing and Singing! Liberation at last! Well, figure *this* out: 5% VAT, estimated to raise $60-100 Billion per year ( on CNN ) Work it out, chum... $60,000,000,000 / 125,000,000 taxpayers = $480 / year But, you exclaim, " I'll get FREE HEALTH CARE! " But, I exclaim, " No, you won't! " This is only for that poor 37 million who have none. Not for YOU, chum. :) That comes LATER. Add in the estimates of the energy tax costs - $300-500 / year Plus, all that extra "corporate and rich" taxes that will trickle down, and what do you have? $1,000 / year, just like I said two months ago. And, the best part? You don't GET ANYTHING for it. Deficit is STILL projected to rise at same rate it's been rising at, by CLINTON'S OWN ESTIMATES. And this assumes that his plan WILL WORK! I mean, come on, it doesn't take a ROCKET SCIENTIST to see that in another 2 or 3 years, we're GETTING ANOTHER WHOPPING TAX INCREASE, because the deficit will STILL be GROWING FASTER THAN the ECONOMY. All Clinton is doing, is moving us to a HIGHER diving board. Face it. Clinton is Bush X 2. In four more years, our country will be completely bankrupt, and your children's future, so oft mentioned by Pal Bill, will be gone. And those of you still deluding yourselves will be faced with the guilt. Well, <glancing at watch>, gotta go. I want to be out of here by noon. Got an appointment at the lake. No tax there, yet. :)
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From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons) Subject: Re: Off the shelf cheap DES keyseach machine (Was: Re: Corporate acceptance of the wiretap chip) Organization: Inland Sea Lines: 17 smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes: >Thousands? Tens of thousands? Do some arithmetic, please... Skipjack >has 2^80 possible keys. Let's assume a brute-force engine like that >hypothesized for DES: 1 microsecond per trial, 1 million chips. That's >10^12 trials per second, or about 38,000 years for 2^80 trials. Well, >maybe they can get chips running at one trial per nanosecond, and build >a machine with 10 million chips. Sure -- only 3.8 years for each solution. Normally I'd be the last to argue with Steve . . . but shouldn't that read "3.8 years for *all* solutions". I mean, if we can imagine the machine that does 1 trial/nanosecond, we can imagine the storage medium that could index and archive it. -- "Shadwell hated all southerners and, by inference, was standing at the North Pole." -- "Good Omens", by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett
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From: msf@skaro.as.arizona.edu (Michael Fulbright) Subject: Re: Analog switches/Balanced Demodulators Distribution: na Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group Lines: 13 caadams@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Kenny Adams) writes: >hi, > instead of using a +15vdc supply for the 4066 try using a +7 and -7 >volt supply. i have some commercial audio equipment that uses this approach >for ground referenced audio. they use the -7 volt supply as the logic >ground. In this case would the switch control voltages be -7V to turn the switch off and >0V to turn the switch on? michael fulbright msf@as.arizona.edu
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From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi) Subject: Re: How do they know what keys to ask for? (Re: Clipper) Lines: 19 Organization: Curtin University of Technology In article <johnson.735023704@trwacs>, johnson@trwacs.fp.trw.com (Steve Johnson) writes: > brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes: >>And of course you have to identify yourself to the phone company, and >>since the phone company complies with court orders, they will know the >>magic number of your chip when they sign out a warrant on you, and >>then can present the warrant to the key escrow house. Lets hope. Years ago a Telecom tech refused to tap a line unless he saw the warrant. The managment type who told him to do it fired him. The appeal against the dismissal was lost. > Who makes them forget and destroy all copies of the key once they've > decided you're not a criminal today? Just curious. Good luck. ~Paul
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From: jcj@tellabs.com (jcj) Subject: Re: proof of resurection Organization: Huh? Whuzzat? Lines: 14 In article <Apr.16.23.15.09.1993.1823@geneva.rutgers.edu> smayo@world.std.com (Scott A Mayo) writes: >... >I think Christianity goes down in flames if the resurrection is >ever disproved. ... Didn't Paul write that if the Resurrection is not true, we are the biggest fools of all? However, whether you believe in Christ or not, His teachings (e.g. love your brotherman as yourself), even if only followed at a secular level, could do a great deal to alleviate some of the problems we see today in the world. Even when I was a rabid atheist I couldn't deny that. Jeff Johnson jcj@tellabs.com
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From: squeegee@world.std.com (Stephen C. Gilardi) Subject: Need PostScript strokeadjust info Summary: Seeking algorithm for endpoint "snapping" Keywords: postscript emulation adjust stroke strokeadjust Organization: SQ Software via The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Lines: 31 I need information on the Display PostScript strokeadjust feature. This feature adjusts the endpoints of lines so that the displayed line looks better on low resolution devices. The PostScript literature explains the process to some extent. They also give an example of how to "emulate" strokeadjust in PostScript environments where it is absent. The suggested emulation is to modify the coordinates of the endpoints of a line using the following formula for each coordinate: new_coord = (round (old_coord - 0.25)) + 0.25 Doing this we end up with all coordinates ending in ".25". From reading I thought that what they might actually do is: new_coord = ((trunc (old_coord * 2)) / 2) + 0.25 This results in all the coordinates ending in either "0.25" or "0.75" whichever is closer. By doing some actual comparisons with Display PostScript, I find that neither of these is what DPS really uses. Since I like how the DPS result looks better than how my stuff looks, I'd like to know if anyone who knows how DPS does it is willing/able to tell me. Thanks, --Steve squeegee@world.std.com
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From: trajan@cwis.unomaha.edu (Stephen McIntyre) Subject: Theists And Objectivity Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha Lines: 90 Can a theist be truly objective? Can he be impartial when questioning the truth of his scriptures, or will he assume the superstition of his parents when questioning? I've often found it to be the case that the theist will stick to some kind of superstition when wondering about God and his scriptures. I've seen it in the Christian, the Jew, the Muslim, and the other theists alike. All assume that their mothers and fathers were right in the aspect that a god exists, and with that belief search for their god. Occasionally, the theist may switch religions or aspects of the same religion, but overall the majority keep to the belief that some "Creator" was behind the universe's existence. I've known Muslims who were once Christians and vice versa, I've known Christians who were once Jewish and vice versa, and I've even known Christians who become Hindu. Yet, throughout their transition from one faith to another, they've kept this belief in some form of higher "being." Why? It usually all has to do with how the child is brought up. From the time he is born, the theist is brought up with the notion of the "truth" of some kind of scripture-- the Bible, the Torah, the Qur'an, & etc. He is told of this wondrous God who wrote (or inspired) the scripture, of the prophets talked about in the scripture, of the miracles performed, & etc. He is also told that to question this (as children are apt to do) is a sin, a crime against God, and to lose belief in the scrip- ture's truth is to damn one's soul to Hell. Thus, by the time he is able to read the scripture for himself, the belief in its "truth" is so ingrained in his mind it all seems a matter of course. But it doesn't stop there. Once the child is able to read for himself, there is an endeavor to inculcate the child the "right" readings of scripture, to concentrate more on the pleasant readings, to gloss over the worse ones, and to explain away the unexplainable with "mystery." Circular arguments, "self-evdent" facts and "truths," unreasoning belief, and fear of hell is the meat of religion the child must eat of every day. To doubt, of course, means wrath of some sort, and the child must learn to put away his brain when the matter concerns God. All of this has some considerable effect on the child, so that when he becomes an adult, the superstitions he's been taught are nearly impossible to remove. All of this leads me to ask whether the theist can truly be objective when questioning God, Hell, Heaven, the angels, souls, and all of the rest. Can he, for a moment, put aside this notion that God *does* exist and look at everything from a unbiased point of view? Obviously, most theists can somewhat, especially when presented with "mythical gods" (Homeric, Roman, Egyptian, & etc.). But can they put aside the assumption of God's existence and question it impartially? Stephen _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ * Atheist _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ * Libertarian _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ * Pro-individuality _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ * Pro-responsibility _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Jr. * and all that jazz... -- [This is ad hominem attack of the most basic kind. None of their statements matter -- they believe the way they do because they were brought up that way. Of course there are atheists who have become theists and theists who have become atheists. Rather more of the latter, which is not surprising given the statistics. It's hard to see how one could possibly answer a posting of this sort, since any answer could immediately be assumed to be just part of the brainwashing. That is, how can anyone possibly show that they aren't biased? --clh]
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From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) Subject: Re: Crazy? or just Imaginitive? In-Reply-To: nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu's message of Thu, 22 Apr 1993 04:54:03 GMT Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal. Lines: 25 On Thu, 22 Apr 1993 04:54:03 GMT, nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu said: nsmca> So some of my ideas are a bit odd, off the wall and such, but nsmca> so was Wilbur and Orville Wright, and quite a few others.. This is a common misconception. There was nothing "off the wall" about the Wright Brothers. They were in correspondance with a number of other experimenters (Octave Chanute, Lillienthal, etc), they flew models, they had a wind tunnel. In short, they were quite mainstream and were not regarded as odd or eccentric by the community. I suggest you read The Bishop's Boys or the biography by Harry Gates? Combs? (I can never remember which it is--the guy that had the FBOs and owned Learjet for a while). These are both in print and easily obtainable. The Bishop's Boys is in trade paperback, even. Even better would be the multi-volume set of the Wrights' writings, but this is out of print, rare, and hideously expensive. -- Mary Shafer DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov Of course I don't speak for NASA "A MiG at your six is better than no MiG at all." Unknown US fighter pilot
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From: kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov Subject: Re: Russian Email Contacts. Organization: NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Lines: 10 I am coordinating the Space Shuttle Program Office's e-mail traffic to NPO Energia for our on-going Joint Missions. I have several e-mail addresses for NPO Energia folks, but I won't post them on the 'Net for obvious reasons. If you need to know, give me a yell. -- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov (713) 483-4368 "The earth is the cradle of humanity, but mankind will not stay in the cradle forever." -- Konstantin Tsiolkvosky
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From: Leigh Palmer <palmer@sfu.ca> Subject: Re: Orion drive in vacuum -- how? X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7F4E4ADFD021C0B@rs5-annex3.sfu.ca> X-Xxdate: Fri, 16 Apr 93 06:33:17 GMT Organization: Simon Fraser University X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17 Lines: 15 In article <1qn4bgINN4s7@mimi.UU.NET> James P. Goltz, goltz@mimi.UU.NET writes: > Background: The Orion spacedrive was a theoretical concept. It was more than a theoretical concept; it was seriously pursued by Freeman Dyson et al many years ago. I don't know how well-known this is, but a high explosive Orion prototype flew (in the atmosphere) in San Diego back in 1957 or 1958. I was working at General Atomic at the time, but I didn't learn about the experiment until almost thirty years later, when Ted Taylor visited us and revealed that it had been done. I feel sure that someone must have film of that experiment, and I'd really like to see it. Has anyone out there seen it? Leigh
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From: tmspence@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (thomas morris spencer) Subject: Are there any Honda groups? Nntp-Posting-Host: bronze.ucs.indiana.edu Organization: Indiana University Distribution: na Lines: 6 Are there any Honda groups out there? Especially ones that deal with Preludes? Tom Spencer
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From: cmwolf@mtu.edu (Engineer by Day - Asleep by Night) Subject: Re: Los Angeles Freeway traffic reports Organization: Michigan Technological University X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8] Lines: 21 Charlie Brett (cfb@fc.hp.com) wrote: : You were right the second time, it is KNX. Believe it or not, I also : listen to KNX in the evenings here in Colorado! It's kind of fun driving : through the country listening to traffic jams on the 405. Back to your : original question. Yes, there are sensors just past every on-ramp and : off-ramp on the freeways. They're the same sensors used at most stoplights : now (coils in the pavement). You might want to give CalTrans a call or : even ask Bill Keene (KNX's traffic reporter). I doubt if just anyone can : get the information, but it would be worth asking just in case you can : get it. I seem to remember that they sell the information (and a computer connection) to anyone willing to pay. On the subject of the pavement sensors, can anyone tell me more about them? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Christopher Wolf Electrical Engineer cmwolf@mtu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Remember, even if you win the Rat Race - You're still a rat.
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From: aldridge@netcom.com (Jacquelin Aldridge) Subject: Re: what are the problems with nutrasweet (aspartame) Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Lines: 36 hbloom@moose.uvm.edu (*Heather*) writes: >Nutrasweet is a synthetic sweetener a couple thousand times sweeter than >sugar. Some people are concerned about the chemicals that the body produces >when it degrades nutrasweet. It is thought to form formaldehyde and known to >for methanol in the degredation pathway that the body uses to eliminate >substances. The real issue is whether the levels of methanol and formaldehyde >produced are high enough to cause significant damage, as both are toxic to >living cells. All I can say is that I will not consume it. >Phenylalanine is >nothing for you to worry about. It is an amino acid, and everyone uses small >quantities of it for protein synthesis in the body. Some people have a disease >known as phenylketoneurea, and they are missing the enzyme necessary to >degrade this compound and eliminate it from the body. For them, it will >accumulate in the body, and in high levels this is toxic to growing nerve >cells. Therefore, it is Only a major problem in young children (until around >age 10 or so) or women who are pregnant and have this disorder. It used to >be a leading cause of brain damage in infants, but now it can be easily >detected at birth, and then one must simply avoid comsumption of phenylalanine >as a child, or when pregnant. >-heather If I remember rightly PKU syndrome in infants is about 1/1200 ? They lack two genes. And people who lack one gene are supposed to be 1/56 persons? Those with PKU have to avoid naturally occuring phenylalanine. And those who only have one gene and underproduce whatever it is they are supposed to be producing are supposed to be less tolerant of aspartame. The methol, formaldahyde thing was supposed to occur with heating? I don't drink it. I figure sugar was made for a reason. To quickly and easily satiate hungry people. If you don't need the calories it's just as easy to drink water. Used to drink a six pack a aday of aspartame soda. Don't even drink one coke a day when sugared.
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From: jodfishe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (joseph dale fisher) Subject: Re: So far so good Organization: Indiana University Lines: 58 In article <Apr.19.05.13.16.1993.29204@athos.rutgers.edu> armstrng@cs.dal.ca (Stan Armstrong) writes: >In article <C4z5u3.Jxo@spss.com> luomat@alleg.edu writes: >> >>This may be a really dumb one, but I'll ask it anyways: >> Christians know that they can never live up to the requirements of >>God, right? (I may be wrong, but that is my understanding) But they still >>try to do it. Doesn't it seem like we are spending all of our lives >>trying to reach a goal we can never achieve? I know that we are saved by >>faith and not by works, but does that mean that once we are saved we don't >>have to do anything? I think James tells us that Faith without works is >>dead (paraphrase). How does this work? >> >So long as we think that good things are what we *have* to do rather than >what we come to *want* to do, we miss the point. The more we love God; the >more we come to love what and whom He loves. > >When I find that what I am doing is not good, it is not a sign to try >even harder (Romans 7:14-8:2); it is a sign to seek God. When I am aware >of Jesus' presence, I usually want what He wants. It is His strenth, His love >that empowers my weakness. >-- >Stan Armstrong. Religious Studies Dept, Saint Mary's University, Halifax, N.S. >Armstrong@husky1.stmarys.ca | att!clyde!watmath!water!dalcs!armstrng I apologize to the moderator, but the first quote was deleted and I would like to respond to both. As for the "goal we can never achieve", the reward comes from the trying. Paul makes a clear claim that we are to continue straining for the prize over in Philippians 3:10-16. Only by not living out the commands do we stagnate and become lukewarm, to be spit out by Jesus. As it says in 1 John 5:3: "This is love for God: to obey his comands." That obedience is our straining to achieve for God. Of course, this requires work on our part. As for the quote in James, Satan doesn't care what we believe. What matters is the results of our belief (works). If one truly has faith in what one believes, one will either act on that faith or be lying to oneself about believing in the first place. Stan, as for your first line, you have a very good point. Obedience by obligation (grudgery) is not what God desires. Instead, look at how many times the Bible talks about being joyous in all situations and when doing God's work. Being begrudged by the work has no value. Also, we should do the work necessary whenever we can, not just when we feel Jesus' presence. Feelings can deceive us. However, as Paul states to Timothy in 2 Timothy 4:2: "Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction." Also, remember that Paul tells Timothy in 1 Timothy 4:16: "Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers." So, in order to do the work necessary, we need to be sure that we are correct first. Remember Jesus' warning in Matthew 7:3-5 not to be hypocritical about what we do. The best way to accomplish this is to be a disciple completely in both thought and deed. Joe Fisher
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From: daw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dave Webb) Subject: Mattel Electronics Baseball for sale or trade.. BEST OFFER Article-I.D.: jhunix.1ps2nbINN3m1 Distribution: na Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu If anyone's still interested, I have ONE Mattel electronic game left for sale or trade. It's Baseball (Tan Case) and includes a 9-volt battery and the original manual! I was able to sell Soccer and Basketball 2 for $70.00 and traded the Football game for a Genesis cart... so, I was happy. I will entertain all offers.. cash or Genesis carts... By the way, Baseball is in Excellent condition and works perfectly.. Thanx in advance, Dave
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From: jdl6@po.CWRU.Edu (Justin D. Lowe) Subject: Re: And America's Team is....But Why? Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Lines: 35 Reply-To: jdl6@po.CWRU.Edu (Justin D. Lowe) NNTP-Posting-Host: slc8.ins.cwru.edu In a previous article, steinman@me.utoronto.ca (David Steinman) says: >cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (OrioleFan@uiuc) writes: > >> The defenition of the Underdog is a team that has no talent and comes >>out of nowhere to contend. The '69 Mets and '89 Orioles are prime examples, >>not the Cubs. > >Sorry, but it is *virtually* impossible to win a division with "no talent" >over 162 games. > >I would amend your definition to: > >underdog: a team expected to lose, but which wins thanks to underestimated > talent. >-- >Dave! > OK, the Mets and O's are good examples, but what about the '90 Reds? Do you really think that anyone expected them to sweep the A's? I know people who didn't even think they'd win a game, let alone win the Series. We proved them wrong, though, didn't we? As for this year, ignore their record now. They've had a rocky start, and that has nothing to do with Colorado. They shall rise again. The hunt for a Reds' October continues. (with all due respect to WLW) Bye. -- MICHELSON- - - - -1993 SPRING OLYMPICS CHAMPIONS Road Rally, 5-legged Race, Rope Pull, Snarf, Penny Wars, Banner, Spirit Cheer. The Michelson Menace rides again! (Don't you just love that intense nationalistic feeling in a residence hall?)
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From: S903146@mailserv.cuhk.hk Subject: Re: DOS6 - no boot disk required if you don't want EMM386 to load Nntp-Posting-Host: wksa16.csc.cuhk.hk Organization: Computer Services Centre, C.U.H.K. Distribution: usa Lines: 20 In article <ls91poINNsvf@levelland.cs.utexas.edu> sms@cs.utexas.edu (Stephen Mark Sanderson) writes: >From: sms@cs.utexas.edu (Stephen Mark Sanderson) >Subject: DOS6 - no boot disk required if you don't want EMM386 to load >Date: 8 Apr 1993 15:12:40 -0500 >Everybody, DOS 6 users in particular, take note: if you want to play games >that hate/use their own upper memory manager, DOS 6 is not a problem. No >boot disks required. As your system starts up, hit the F5 key. This tells >it to bypass config and autoexec altogether. You get a plain, generic session >of DOS, with nothing loaded. <there's another function key that actually >steps thru config.sys asking if you want to execute each line, but I've >forgotten it at the moment...you can try finding it - I think it's F9...> No, you need not bypass the config.sys, in Dos 6.0, there is a function of multi-config, have you tried BOOT.SYS ? the multi-config is the kind that you can choose you config.sys at the startup. And I find that is very good. It has no conflict to QEMM. (I have problem when using BOOT.SYS) The key you say is F8, which is trace the config.sys step by step. Sorry, if any error :) Phillip (phillipau@cuhk.hk)
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From: erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup) Subject: Re: Choking Ninja Problem Organization: pnet X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4 Lines: 43 starr@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: : I need help with my '85 ZX900A, I put Supertrapp slip-on's on it and : had the carbs re-jetted to match a set of K&N filters that replaced : the stock airbox. Ahh, and just how were the carbs rejeted to "match" the changes you made to the bike? A stage three kit from K/N or Dynojet? : Now I have a huge flat spot in the carburation at : about 5 thousand RPM in most any gear. Isn't rejetting fun? : This is especially frustrating : on the highway, the bike likes to cruise at about 80mph which happens : to be 5,0000 RPM in sixth gear. I've had it "tuned" and this doesn't : seem to help. I am thinking about new carbs or the injection system : from a GPz 1100. Does anyone have any suggestions for a fix besides : restoring it to stock? : New CARBS??? Why would that fix it? you still have to get the jetting right to match what seems to be a extremely overly lean condition. You added a more free flowing exhaust, and then higher flowing filters. Chances are it's to lean. BUT! This may not be,that's the big fun with carb tuning. It's _very_ tricky. Your one and only choice (unless you want to spend many hours fiddling with the carbs) is to take it to a guy witha Dyno and have he tune the carbs for your current set up. Otherwise you'll be playing a guessing game for a long time... ============================================================================== Erik Astrup AFM #422 DoD #683 1993 CBR 900RR * 1990 CBR 600 * 1990 Concours * 1989 Ninja 250 "This one goes to eleven" - Nigel Tufnel, lead guitar, Spinal Tap ==============================================================================
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From: queloz@bernina.ethz.ch (Ronald Queloz) Subject: Hypercard for UNIX Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH Lines: 10 Hi netlanders, Does anybody know if there is something like Macintosh Hypercard for any UNIX platform? Thanks in advance Ron.
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From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian) Subject: Lezgians Astir in Azerbaijan and Daghestan Summary: asking not to fight against Armenians in Karabakh & for unification Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies Lines: 106 04/19/1993 0000 Lezghis Astir By NEJLA SAMMAKIA Associated Press Writer GUSSAR, Azerbaijan (AP) -- The 600,000 Lezghis of Azerbaijan and Russia have begun clamoring for their own state, threatening turmoil in a tranquil corner of the Caucasus. The region has escaped the ethnic warfare of neighboring Nagorno-Karabakh, Abkhazia and Ossetia, but Lezhgis could become the next minority in the former Soviet Union to fight for independence. Lezghis, who are Muslim descendents of nomadic shepherds, are angry about the conscription of their young men to fight in Azerbaijan's 5-year-old undeclared war with Armenia. They also want to unite the Lezghi regions of Azerbaijan and Russia, which were effectively one until the breakup of the Soviet Union created national borders that had been only lines on a map. A rally of more than 3,000 Lezghis in March to protest conscription and demand a separate "Lezghistan" alarmed the Azerbaijani government. Officials in Baku, the capital, deny rumors that police shot six demonstrators to death. But the government announced strict security measures and began cooperating with Russian authorities to control the movement of Lezhgis living across the border in the Dagestan region of Russia. Visitors to Gussar, the center of Lezhgi life, found the town quiet soon after the protest. Children played outdoors in the crisp mountain air. At the Sunday bazaar, men in heavy coats and dark fur hats gathered to discuss grievances ranging from high customs duties at the Russian border to a war they say is not theirs. "I have been drafted, but I won't go," said Shamil Kadimov, gold teeth glinting in the sun. "Why must I fight a war for the Azerbaijanis? I have nothing to do with Armenia." More than 3,000 people have died in the war, which centers on the disputed territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, about 150 miles to the southeast. Malik Kerimov, an official in the mayor's office, said only 11 of 300 locals drafted in 1992 had served. "The police don't force people to go," he said. "They are afraid of an uprising that could be backed by Lezghis in Dagestan." All the men agreed that police had not fired at the demonstrators, but disagreed on how the protest came about. Some said it occurred spontaneously when rumors spread that Azerbaijan was about to draft 1,500 men from the Gussar region, where 75,000 Lezghis live. Others said the rally was ordered by Gen. Muhieddin Kahramanov, leader of the Lezhgi underground separatist movement, Sadval, based in Dagestan. "We organized the demonstration when families came to us distraught about draft orders," said Kerim Babayev, a mathematics teacher who belongs to Sadval. "We hope to reunite peacefully, by approaching everyone -- the Azerbaijanis, the Russians." In the early 18th century, the Lezhgis formed two khanates, or sovereignties, in what are now Azerbaijan and Dagestan. They roamed freely with their sheep over the green hills and mountains between the two khanates. By 1812, the Lezghi areas were joined to czarist Russia. After 1917, they came under Soviet rule. With the disintegration of the Soviet Union, the 600,000 Lezghis were faced for the first time with strict borders. About half remained in Dagestan and half in newly independent Azerbaijan. "We have to pay customs on all this, on cars, on wine," complained Mais Talibov, a small trader. His goods, laid out on the ground at the bazaar, included brandy, stomach medication and plastic shoes from Dagestan. "We want our own country," he said. "We want to be able to move about easily. But Baku won't listen to us." Physically, it is hard for outsiders to distinguish Lezhgis from other Azerbaijanis. In many villages, they live side by side, working at the same jobs and intermarrying to some degree. But the Lezhgis have a distinctive language, a mixture of Arabic, Turkish and Persian with strong guttural vowels. Azerbaijan officially supports the cultural preservation of its 10 largest ethnic minorities. The Lezghis have weekly newspapers and some elementary school classes in their language. Autonomy is a different question. If the Lezghis succeeded in separating from Azerbaijan, they would set a precedent for other minorities, such as the Talish in the south, the Tats in the nearby mountains and the Avars of eastern Azerbaijan. -- David Davidian dbd@urartu.sdpa.org | "How do we explain Turkish troops on S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies | the Armenian border, when we can't P.O. Box 382761 | even explain 1915?" Cambridge, MA 02238 | Turkish MP, March 1992
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From: lusky@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jonathan R. Lusky) Subject: Re: Tools Tools Tools Article-I.D.: ra.1993Apr6.011730.877 Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX Lines: 25 In article <1993Apr5.165548.21479@research.nj.nec.com> behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes: > While we're on the subject, has anyone else noticed that the 1/2" deep >well in Craftsman's $60 SAE deep well set is too small to fit a 1/2" bolt or >nut? > > When I took the socket in for an exchange, EVERY !#%@ one of the 1/2" >deep well sockets on the rack had the exact same problem!!! Looking into the >socket, it appears that Craftsman's toolmaker attempted to imitate flank drive >on this piece, but did not account for the extra clearance needed inside the >socket. Never had any problem with mine... Are you *SURE* the nut/bolt you are trying is really a 1/2" hex? 13mm is just slightly larger... and a 1/2 wrench won't fit on a GM 13mm nut (my 91 GMC pickup has several 13mm nuts on it... really annoying, metric threads too. Seems that most of the body is metric, most of the engine is SAE). -- --=< Jonathan Lusky ----- lusky@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu >=-- \ 89 Jeep Wrangler - 258/for sale! / \ 79 Rx-7 - 12A/Holley 4bbl / \________67 Camaro RS - 350/4spd________/
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From: rwf2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ROBERT WILLIAM FUSI) Subject: Re: I'm getting a car, I need opinions. Organization: Lehigh University Lines: 47 In article <1qqp2o$5ba@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cf947@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Chun-H ung Wan) writes: > >In a previous article, ip02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Danny Phornprapha) says: > >>I have $30,000 as my budget. I'm looking for a sports or GT car. >> >>What do you think would be the best buy? (I'm looking for specific models) >> >>Thanks, >>Danny >>-- >> >>============================================================================== = >>= "Hey! You programmers out there! | Danny Phornprapha = >>= Please consider this: | ip02@lehigh.edu = >>= | = >>= Bugs are another endangered earth | LUCC Student Konsultant = >>= Species needing your protection. | Work: (215) 758-4141 = >> > >For an all out sports car, I'd go for the RX-7 without the sports >suspension (which is too stiff.) For a little more practicality and more >comfort, the Nissan 300ZX Turbo is a good buy. And for a good dose of >luxury, the Lexus SC300 is perfect (with a manual transmission of course.) >However, the Toyota Supra is coming out soon and if you like it's looks, >the performance is supposed to be great, almost race car like. I don't >particulary like the Mitsubishi 3000GT's or the Dodge Stealths as they are >too heavy and aren't very nimble handlers for a sports car. >-- >A motion picture major at the Brooks Institute of Photography, CA >Santa Barbara and a foreign student from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. > >"The mind is the forerunner of all states." > The only thing about the 300ZX turbo and new Supra is they're about $10K or more over his budget... -- " Be good, and you will be lonely" Mark Twain
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From: kxgst1+@pitt.edu (Kenneth Gilbert) Subject: Re: Any info. on Vasomotor Rhinitis Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 21 In article <1r1t1a$njq@europa.eng.gtefsd.com> draper@gnd1.wtp.gtefsd.com writes: :I recently attended an allery seminar. Steroid Nasal sprays were :discussed. Afterward on a one-on-one basis, I asked the speaker what if :none of the Vancanese, Beconase, Nasalide, Nasalcort, or Nasalchrom work :nor do any oral decongestants work. She replied that she saw an article on :Vasomotor Rhinitis. That this is not an allergic reaction and that nothing :other than the Afrin's and such would work. (Which in my case is true). There has been some recent research on vasomotor rhinitis that shows that ipratroprium bromide (Atrovent) inhaled nasally is an effective treatment for many sufferers. It has been approved for this use and is available with a nasal adaptor in Canada. In the US the FDA has yet to approve this use of the drug, but it is available as an oral inhaler (for COPD), and these can be adapted for intranasal use. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= = Kenneth Gilbert __|__ University of Pittsburgh = = General Internal Medicine | "...dammit, not a programmer!" = =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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From: schmidt@PrakInf.TH-Ilmenau.DE (Schmidt) Subject: Re: POV file constructor for Unix/X11 Nntp-Posting-Host: merkur.prakinf.tu-ilmenau.de Reply-To: schmidt@PrakInf.TH-Ilmenau.DE (Schmidt) Organization: Technische Hochschule Ilmenau Lines: 17 In article <1r7hl1$csc@st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz>, Craig.Humphrey@comp.vuw.ac.nz (chumphre) writes: |> |> Hi, I'm just getting into PoVRay and I was wondering if there is a graphic |> package that outputs .POV files. Any help would be appreciated. |> Thanks. |> A very good modeling package I found is `irit' (look for irit.tar.Z). However there is no converter from it's format to POV format. I postet a request for such a converter in this group but got no response, so I'm considering to write such a program myself. -- Sebastian Schmidt TU Ilmenau Institut f. praktische Informatik
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From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) Subject: Re: V-max handling request Reply-To: randy@megatek.com Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California Lines: 22 In article <1993Apr15.232009.8534@Newbridge.COM> bradw@Newbridge.COM (Brad Warkentin) writes: |Zero to very fast very quickly... lastest rumor is 115 hp at the rear wheel, |handles like a dream in a straight line to 80-100, and then gets a tad upset |according to a review in Cycle World... cornering, er well, you can't have |everything... Sure you can have everything, if by "everything" you mean fast straight line performance AND handling - present day liter sport bikes have more horsepower and have faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile times than the V-max... Plus, they corner just a bit better... | Seriously, handling is probably as good as the big standards |of the early 80's but not compareable to whats state of the art these days. Very true. Randy Davis Email: randy@megatek.com ZX-11 #00072 Pilot {uunet!ucsd}!megatek!randy DoD #0013 "But, this one goes to *eleven*..." - Nigel Tufnel, _Spinal Tap_
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From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19 Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Lines: 35 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: dale.handheld.com In article <1993Apr20.151131.8531@news.uit.no> paale@stud.cs.uit.no (Paal Ellingsen) writes: > In article <1r0qsrINNc61@clem.handheld.com>, Jim De Arras writes: > |> Mr. Roby, you are a government sucking heartless bastard. Humans died > |> yesterday, humans who would not have died if the FBI had not taken the actions > |> they did. That is the undeniable truth. > > ....the question is: for how long? Even if the FBI had done nothing, I guess the > BDs would have committed suicide, but maybe not until hunger and thirst gave them > the choice between sucide or surrender. > The BDs was warned in beforehand about the FBI action. They HAD the chance to > surrender and get a fair trial. No matter who started the fire, the BDs were > responsible for 80+ peole dying. No one else. > This is, of course, your opinion. I differ greatly. There can be NO doubt the FBI at least shares in the blame. > -- > ============================================================================ > Paal Ellingsen | Borgensvingen 67/102 | Tlf.: 083 50933 > paale@stud.cs.uit.no | 9100 Kvaloeysletta | DATA = Dobbelt Arbeid Til Alle > ============================================================================ -- jmd@handheld.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I'm always rethinking that. There's never been a day when I haven't rethought that. But I can't do that by myself." Bill Clinton 6 April 93 "If I were an American, as I am an Englishman, while a foreign troop was landed in my country, I never would lay down my arms,-never--never--never!" WILLIAM PITT, EARL OF CHATHAM 1708-1778 18 Nov. 1777
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From: west@esd.dl.nec.com (Mike West) Subject: Re: Dean Palmer Hurt? Nntp-Posting-Host: swan.esd.dl.nec.com Organization: Engineering and Support Division, NEC America, Inc. X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9] Lines: 14 Edward Ouellette (edo@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote: : I think Dean got hit by a pitched ball the other night... he got pinch hit for : and didn't play against Baltimore tonight... whats up with that? Is he hurt? : Please tell me he's not... He evidentally got hit in the elbow by a Fernando pitch. His arm swelled from the elbow to the wrist (or something like that). They took X-rays of the arm and there is nothing damaged. He missed the last game with the Orioles, but he is suppose to be ready for the next game. Hope this helps. Mike West west@esd.dl.nec.com
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From: wgw@netcom.com (William G. Wright) Subject: SE rom Keywords: roms, grayscale, select 300 Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Lines: 32 I just bought a select 300 and rushed home to print some grayscale pictures for my kids, when I discovered that grayscale(and photograde) are not available if you are using an SE...even if you are running with an '030 cpu. You won't see this in the printer's docs, and the Apple rep didn't mention it to our users group either. It seems that SE ROMs won't support those "features". Okay, I guess I should have somehow known that this was the case. Let the buyer beware, huh Apple? Be that as it may, I have been thinking about the problem and I'm puzzled. Why can't a defencieny in the ROM be made up for in software. I write software for a living (on unix platforms) and I don't understand the "it just can't be done" responses I've gotten from those I have asked so far. Isn't Mode32, or somesuch piece of soft- ware, just such a fix. Anyway, I was hoping someone knowledgeable about Mac internals could set me straight: is it simply impossible for a mac SE to print grayscale, or could someone armed with enough info and a little pro- gramming experience cook something up that would supplement the ROM's capabilities? Also, how does one know if one's mac can support the grayscale and photograde that the Select 300 is supposedly capable of? ( Short of buying the printer and trying it out like I did) Thanks for your help. Bill Wright wgw@netcom.com
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From: jra@wti.com (Jim Atkinson) Subject: How can I detect local vs remote DISPLAY settings? Reply-To: jra@wti.com Organization: Wavefront Technologies Inc, Santa Barbara, CA Lines: 17 Nntp-Posting-Host: barracuda.wti.com X-Disclaimer: Not a spokesperson for Wavefront Technologies, Inc. I am trying to find out if my application is running on a local or a remote display. A local display being connected to the same system that the client is executing on. I have access to the display string but can I tell from the string? If the client is executing on host foo then ":0", "unix:0", "foo:0", and "localhost:0" are all local. Under Ultrix, I believe that "local:0" is also a valid display name (a shared memory connection maybe?). Are there other strings that I should check for? Is there a better way to detect this? Thank you for any help you can give me. -- ======================================================================== Jim Atkinson Wavefront Technologies, Inc. jra@wti.com What, me? A company spokesperson? Get real! =================== Life is not a spectator sport! =====================
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From: roy@panix.com (Roy Radow) Subject: Re: A loathesome subject Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC Lines: 59 In <1ppjruINNhnt@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> carlos@beowulf.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Carlos Carrion) writes: >In article <C4y3DD.L1n@panix.com> roy@panix.com (Roy Radow) writes: >> But this does not imply that ALL relationships between youth >> and adults are exploitative and abusive. >>The critical factor here is whether the sexual activity is "forced" >>or whether it is an activity that is consensually agreed upon and >>freely engaged in by the people involved. >>When a child is "forced" there is often "damage", on the other hand, > Wholeheartedly agree here. >>"consensual" relationships are often found to be "positive experiences" >>for all concerned. > Why do I find this hard to believe? > Care to convince us? Carlos, Why not check out some of the scientific research that has been done in this area and convince yourself. Research around the world indicates that the issue of coercion is the critical factor. For those interested in research on the topic I can suggest, Li et al (England), Constantine (United States), and Sandfort (The Netherlands). I especially like Sandfort's research for he actually quotes what the boys who are involved in the relationships have to say. Children and Sex: New Findings, New Perspectives by Larry Constantine & Floyd M. Martinson (eds.). Little Brown & Co., Boston, 1980. Boys On Their Contacts With Men by Theo Sandfort, Global Academic Publishers, Elmhurst, New York, 1987. Perspectives on Paedophilia by Brian Taylor (ed.). Batsford Academic & Educational Ltd., London, 1981. Paedophilia: A Factual Report by Frits Bernard. Enclave, Rotterdam, The Netherlands, 1985. Sexual Experience Between Men and Boys by Parker Rossman. Maurice Temple Smith Ltd., Middlesex, Great Britain, 1985. Children's Sexual Encounters With Adults by C.K. Li, D.J. West & T.P. Woodhouse. Gerald Duckworth & Co., London, 1990. Yours in Liberation, Roy -- Roy Radow roy@panix.com ...rutgers!cmcl2!panix!roy North American Man/Boy Love Association -For a packet containing a sample Bulletin, publications list and membership information send $1.00 postage to: NAMBLA Info, Dept.RR, PO Box 174, Midtown Station, NYC NY 10018.
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From: nicho@vnet.IBM.COM (Greg Stewart-Nicholls) Subject: Re: Vandalizing the sky. Reply-To: nicho@vnet.ibm.com Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM News-Software: UReply 3.1 X-X-From: nicho@vnet.ibm.com <C5y4t7.9w3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Lines: 9 In <C5y4t7.9w3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> George F. Krumins writes: >It is so typical that the rights of the minority are extinguished by the >wants of the majority, no matter how ridiculous those wants might be. Umm, perhaps you could explain what 'rights' we are talking about here .. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Greg Nicholls ... : Vidi nicho@vnet.ibm.com or : Vici nicho@olympus.demon.co.uk : Veni
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) Subject: Re: Don Cherry - Coach's Corner summary - April 19, 1993 Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated Lines: 18 In article <allan.735284991@swanlake> allan@cs.UAlberta.CA (Allan Sullivan) writes: >Next, a clip was shown from an earlier episode, in which Don was >proclaiming Doug Gilmour to be the best player, not only in >the NHL, but in the world. What about players like Lemieux? >Don said that Gilmour was the best PLAYER, not "Designated point getter". >Its not like baseball, where you have a "designatted hitter" who >can score runs but can't play defense. Gilmour is a good two way player. What can you expect from a buffoon who said that the Pens should have drafted Kirk Muller instead of Mario Lemieux? Perhaps once upon a time Don Cherry had some insight into the game of hockey, but he's really degenerated into a parody of himself. Sherri Nichols snichols@adobe.com
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From: aaron_bratcher@fpm.uchicago.edu (Aaron L. Bratcher) Subject: Appletalk hookup? Article-I.D.: fpm-mac-.aaron_bratcher-060493075518 Organization: University of Chicago Lines: 3 What ways are there to hook up to an appletalk network to use an Apple LaserWriter? Is there a way I can use an AppleShare File Server also? The less memory used the better. Thanks. Any help greatly appreciated.
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From: smith@minerva.harvard.edu (Steven Smith) Subject: Re: The U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum: A Costly and Dangerous Mistake In-Reply-To: dgannon@techbook.techbook.com's message of 21 Apr 1993 07:55:09 -0700 Organization: Applied Mathematics, Harvard University Lines: 15 dgannon@techbook.techbook.com (Dan Gannon) writes: > THE U.S. HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL MUSEUM: A COSTLY AND DANGEROUS MISTAKE > > by Theodore J. O'Keefe > > [Holocaust revisionism] > > Theodore J. O'Keefe is an editor with the Institute for Historical > Review. Educated at Harvard University . . . According to the 1990 Harvard Alumni Directory, Mr. O'Keefe failed to graduate. You may decide for yourselves if he was indeed educated anywhere. Steven Smith
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) Subject: Re: WC 93: Results, April 18 Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department Lines: 26 In article <1r1439$c9t@access.digex.net> steveg@cadkey.com (Steve Gallichio) writes: > >Gerald Olchowy (golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca) writes: >> Podein is an interesting case...because he was eligible to >> play in Cape Breton in the AHL playoffs like Kovalev, Zubov, >> and Andersson...obviously Sather and Pocklington are not >> the total scrooges everyone makes them out to be...certainly >> in this case they've massively outclassed Paramount and the >> New York Rangers. > >What is the policy regarding players and the minor league playoffs versus WC? >I know that the Rangers are holding back Kovalev, Zubov, and Andersson for >Binghamton, but I also know that the Whalers wanted Michael Nylander to play >for Springfield, while Nylander wanted to play for Sweden. The Whalers allowed >the NHL to decide, and the NHL chose the WCs. How does this differ from the >Rangers and Oilers? Did the Whalers have to go through the league, or could >they have forced Nylander to play in Springfield? > Obviously, it is ultimately the teams choice...the NHL would obviously prefer not to annoy the European hockey federations, but the NHL right now cannot force NHL teams to free their players...the Whalers probably did it this way so as to not annoy their farm team affiliate. Gerald
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From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) Subject: Re: Observation re: helmets Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC Lines: 12 Distribution: world Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com In article 734919391@u.washington.edu, moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) writes: > >So what should I carry if I want to comply with intelligent helmet laws? Take up residence in a fantasy world. --- Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker, Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM |and I showed him a picture of you. I said, DoD #0111 (919)460-8302 |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!" (The Grateful Dead) --> |It seemed like the least I could do...
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From: turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) Subject: Re: Science and Methodology Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Lines: 67 Distribution: inet NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu -*---- In article <C5I2Bo.CG9@news.Hawaii.Edu> lady@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Lee Lady) writes: > The difference between a Nobel Prize level scientist and a mediocre > scientist does not lie in the quality of their empirical methodology. > It depends on the quality of their THINKING. > > It really bothers me that so many graduate students seem to believe that > they are doing science merely because they are conducting empirical > studies. ... > > And I'm especially offended by Russell Turpin's repeated assertion that > science amounts to nothing more than avoiding mistakes. Simply avoiding > mistakes doesn't get you anywhere. I think that Lee Lady and I are talking at cross purposes. Above, Lady seems concerned with the contrast between great science that makes big advances in our knowledge and mediocre science that makes smaller steps. In most of this thread, I have been concerned with the difference between what is science and what is not. Lee Lady is correct when she asserts that the difference between Einstein and the average post-doc physicist is the quality of their thought. But what is the difference between Einstein and a genius who would be a great scientist but whose great thoughts are scientifically screwy? (Some would give Velikovsky or Korzybski as examples. If you don't like these, choose your own.) I say it is the same as the difference between the mediocre physicist and the mediocre proponent of qi. Both Einstein and the mediocre physcists have disciplined their work from the cumulative knowledge of how previous researchers went wrong. Both Velikovsky and the mediocre proponent of qi have failed to do this. Let me approach this from a second direction. When one is asked to review a paper for a journal or conference, there are many kinds of criticism that one can make. One kind of criticism is that the work is just wrong or misinformed. Another kind of criticism is that the work, while technically correct, is either not important or not interesting. The first difference is the one that I have been pointing to. The second difference is the one that Lee Lady seems to be discussing. > If good empirical research were done and showed that there is some merit > to homeopathic remedies, this would certainly be valuable information. > But it would still not mean that homeopathy qualifies as a science. This > is where you and I disagree with Turpin. I have often pointed out that for homeopathy to be considered scientific, what is needed is a test of its theoretical claims, not just of some of its proposed remedies. Similarly, I suspect that traditional Chinese medicine has many remedies that work; what it lacks (as one example) is any experiment that tests the presence of qi. > ... In order to have science, one must have a theoretical > structure that makes sense, not a mere collection of empirically > validated random hypotheses. Certainly a "theoretical structure that makes sense" is the goal. In areas where we do not yet have this, I see nothing wrong with forming and testing smaller hypotheses. Let's face it: we cannot always wait for an Einstein to come along and make everything clear for us. Sometimes those of us who are not Einstein have to plug along and make small amounts of progress as best we can. Russell
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From: fang@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Wen-Cheng Fang) Subject: INFINITY RS-6903 6"x9" Speakers For Sale (BRAND NEW) Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network Distribution: usa Lines: 23 I have a pair of car speakers for sale. They are BRAND NEW, still in box and plastic wrap. I got them at Highland's going-out-of-business sale just yesterday However they won't fit my car's rear deck because it's not the right size. So, I am trying to sale them here. INFINITY RS-6903 6x9 Three-Way Freq. Resp. 40-22k Hz Power Capacity: 90 Watts per channel Sensitivity: 93 dB SPL/1W/1m Impedance 4 ohms Mouting Depth 3" List Price $200 Stereo Store $140-165 + tax Mail Order Catalog Price $149 + S/H My Price $120 obo + Shipping Please e-mail me at fang@en.ecn.purdue.edu or call me at (317)743-1394 Michael Wen-Cheng Fang
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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) Subject: Re: Stolen AARGHHHH..... Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization Lines: 43 In article <JPOLITO.93Apr15095753@sysgem1.encore.com> jpolito@sysgem1.encore.com (Jonathan Polito) writes: > >In article <1993Apr15.002222.23057@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes: > > Watch out. Often when some scumbag steals the cover, that means > that they were or are looking to steal the bike. In my case, I > had a faded cover stolen off a bmw R100RS that was stashed in an > apartment carport and not visible from the street. They evidently > decided the beemer wasn't worth stealing, but did try the next night to > steal a Honda Hurricane 600 parked in the next apartment building. > A neighbor heard them wheeling it out and called the cops. > > >I know this is just setting myself up, but this is actually one of the >things that is really good about BMW bikes. From all accounts I've >heard practically no one steals BMWs. Probably it is similar for Moto >Guzzis and other relative "exotics" since there isn't a large demand >for parts and the bike would be much easier to track down. It seems >that the most stolen bikes are Harleys and 600cc Jap sport bikes. Well, I'd say you're mostly right, but for different reasons. (BTW, as of a couple years ago, the most stolen bikes in Orange County and SF were 750 GSX's and Ninjas). Probably the biggest reason BMWs aren't ripped off is that most people who buy BMWs will only deal with the actual BMW dealer, or mail- order types. Most of these can have their inventory checked fairly easily by law-enforcement types, and their mark-up is usually sufficient to keep them honest about acquiring parts. For Harleys and rice-rockets, you've got 2 different situations. There is a HUGE aftermarket in Harley parts, so a bike can be parted out fairly easily. Ditto the non-sport Japanese bikes, but the prices on the parts for these are not as high, comparatively. For the 'rockets', anytime a bike goes down, the plastic is usually cracked, and is expensive to replace. It's fairly easy, then, for a disreputable shop to take a fairing from a stolen bike, slap it on a bike in for repair, repaint it, and make a tidy profit. The other parts, more traceable, can be used, or discarded if they are too traceable. Mike -- Disclaimer - These opiini^H^H damn! ^H^H ^Q ^[ .... :w :q :wq :wq! ^d ^X ^? exit X Q ^C ^? :quitbye CtrlAltDel ~~q :~q logout save/quit :!QUIT ^[zz ^[ZZZZZZ ^vi man vi ^@ ^L ^[c ^# ^E ^X ^I ^T ? help helpquit ^D ^d !! man help ^C ^c :e! help exit ?Quit ?q CtrlShftDel "Hey, what does Stop L1A d..."
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From: hungjenc@phakt.usc.edu (Hung-Jen Chen) Subject: Forsale: Sony D-22 diskman Article-I.D.: phakt.1pqm89INNja1 Distribution: na Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 4 NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu Newsgroups: rec.audio,misc.forsale Distribution: na Subject: Forsale: Sony D-22 diskman
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From: system@garlic.sbs.com (Anthony S. Pelliccio) Subject: Re: arcade style buttons and joysticks Organization: Antone's Italian Kitchen and Excellence in Operating Network X-Newsreader: rusnews v1.02 Lines: 26 dnewman@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (David F. Newman) writes: > Hi there, > Can anyone tell me where it is possible to purchase controls found > on most arcade style games. Many projects I am working on would > be greatly augmented if I could implement them. Thanx in advance. > > -Dave > dnewman@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu > Contact Chris Arthur at Chris_Arthur@pennies.stratus.com He restores lots of old video and arcade games and knows where to get parts. Tony ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Anthony S. Pelliccio, kd1nr/ae // Yes, you read it right, the // -- system @ garlic.sbs.com // man who went from No-Code // -----------------------------------// (Thhhppptt!) to Extra in // -- Flame Retardent Sysadmin // exactly one year! // ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- This is a calm .sig! -- --------------------------
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From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) Subject: Re: .GIF to .BMP Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9] Distribution: usa Lines: 21 Scott Zabolotzky (saz@hook.corp.mot.com) wrote: : I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask this question. If not, : please forgive me and point me in the right direction. : Does anybody know of a program that converts .GIF files to .BMP files : and if so, where can I ftp it from? Any help would be greatly : appreciated. : Please respond via e-mail as I do not read this group very often. : Thanks...Scott Sorry Scott, if you post it here, you can read it here. There is a shareware program available via anonymous FTP that will suit your needs. You'll find it at OAK.OAKLAND.EDU in the subdirectory pub/msdos/graphics. The file is called "GRFWK61T.ZIP." TMC. (tmc@spartan.ac.brocku.ca)
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From: jrlaf@sgi502.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com (J. R. Laferriere) Subject: So, do any XXXX, I mean police officers read this stuff? Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co. Lines: 11 I was just wondering if there were any law officers that read this. I have several questions I would like to ask pertaining to motorcycles and cops. And please don't say get a vehicle code, go to your local station, or obvious things like that. My questions would not be found in those places nor answered face to face with a real, live in the flesh, cop. If your brother had a friend who had a cousin whos father was a cop, etc. don't bother writing in. Thanks.
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From: gene@theporch.raider.net (Gene Wright) Subject: re: mac portable vs. powerbook 100 answers (?) Organization: The MacInteresteds of Nashville, Tn. Lines: 37 Regarding the post for information about the Mac Portable and the Powerbook 100, here are a couple of the answers: (1) Does the Mac Portable support Appletalk? Yes (2) What CPU is in the Mac Portable? A low power version of the 68000 running at 15.87 Mhz. (3) Does the Mac Portable run system 7? Yes, although it does use up a lot of memory. (4) Is memory still availabe for the Portable? There are several vendors that still make RAM for the Portable. There are two options: Some vendors sell memory that plugs into the RAM Slot inside the portable. Others sell memory that plugs into the Processor Direct Slot. Either way, the most memory you can address is either 8 or 9 megabytes, depending on whether the Portable is Backlit or not. King Memory and Peripherials in Irvine California is the cheapest place I know of for Portable memory. 2MB - $140, 4 MB, $250, and 7 MB $415. I still see several ads in macuser that are selling 4 MB modules for $450. Wide variety in pricing here. (5) What is the internal HD? Its a Conner CP-3045 40 MB HD with an average access time of about 25 ms. (6) Is the screen better that the PB 100? Heavens yes! The PB 100 is a backlit PASSIVE matrix screen which means it fades out on you if you move your head a few degrees left or right. The Portable has a backlit or non-backlit ACTIVE Matrix screen which I think is a joy to read. Other things to consider - Where to get the portable and how much to pay for it? A good supplier has been SelectTerm in Mass. They were willing to sell a 2MB Non-backlit Portable with an internal 2400 bps modem for about $650. Or a 4 MB Backlit Portable with an internal 2400 bps modem for about $900. The answer is call around for a good while or you'll pay too much. I'm still looking for an internal FAX modem for the portable? Anybody got one they want to sell? -- Good Luck, Gene Wright -- gene@theporch.raider.net (Gene Wright) theporch.raider.net 615/297-7951 The MacInteresteds of Nashville
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From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club") Subject: Re: Signature Image Database Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs Lines: 21 Contact Signaware Corp 800-4583820 800 6376564 -------------------------------- Original Memo -------------------------------- BCC: Vincent Wall From: Imaging Club Subject: Signature verification ? Date Sent: 05/04/93 sci.image.processing From: yyqi@ece.arizona.edu (Yingyong Qi) Subject: Signature Image Database Organization: U of Arizona Electrical and Computer Engineering Hi, All: Could someone tell me if there is a database of handwriting signature images available for evaluating signature verification systems. Thanks. YY
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From: macro@cup.hp.com (Patrick MacRoberts) Subject: Re: Too Many Europeans in NHL In-Reply-To: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca's message of Tue, 6 Apr 1993 14:20:37 GMT Lines: 25 <1993Apr6.142037.9246@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Nntp-Posting-Host: hpcobr30.cup.hp.com Organization: Nazi Right-Wing Parenting Monthly %>I dunno, Lemieux? Hmmm...sounds like he %>has *French* blood in him!!! Hey! France is part of Europe! Send that %>Euro-blooded boy back!!! % % Don't you Americans study history...the French settled in North America % as early or before the British...Lemieux can probably trace back his % North American heritage back a lot further than most of us. <friendly-jibe mode on> Don't you Canadians understand sarcasm? Sometimes the reader must decide that what he's reading is so ludicrous that it must mean the opposite of what it said... Kinda like the "Toronto's going to win the Cup" posts. Yeah. Right. And cows can fly... <friendly-jibe mode off> Geez, Gerald. Like anyone reading rec.flamefest.hockey.pens.are.great didn't know that Le-Mow was from Quebec. -Patrick
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Organization: University of Notre Dame - Office of Univ. Computing From: <JOLD@vma.cc.nd.edu> Subject: New Div. 1 NCAA teams Lines: 9 It was great to hear that UMass is bringing back hockey! It reminded me that a couple of years ago there was talk that both Bimidgi (sp?) and Mankato State trying to upgrade their programs to Div. 1 status. I also seem to remember that they had some trouble with new NCAA rule about just who was allowed to compete at the Div. 1 level. Was that ever resolved? Also, I was just wondering if there is ANY college hockey east of Colorado (Alaska excepted). With the new popularity of hockey on the west coast, I would expect there to be some interest building at the collegiate levels too. Anyone heard anything? James Old, e-mail JOLD@vma.cc.nd.edu
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From: Mark A. Cartwright <markc@emx.utexas.edu> Subject: Re: TIFF: philosophical significance of 42 (SILLY) Organization: University of Texas @ Austin, Comp. Center Lines: 21 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: aliester.cc.utexas.edu X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1 Well, 42 is 101010 binary, and who would forget that its the answer to the Question of "Life, the Universe, and Everything else." That is to quote Douglas Adams in a round about way. Of course the Question has not yet been discovered... -- Mark A. Cartwright, N5SNP University of Texas @ Austin Computation Center, Graphics Facility markc@emx.utexas.edu markc@sirius.cc.utexas.edu markc@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu (512)-471-3241 x 362 PP-ASEL 9-92 a.) "Often in error, never in doubt." b.) "This situation has no gravity, I would like a refund please."
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From: aboyko@dixie.com (Andrew boyko) Subject: Re: Sega Genesis for sale w/Sonic 1/2 Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access. The Mouth of the South. Lines: 15 aboyko@dixie.com (Andrew boyko) writes: >4 month old Sega Genesis, barely used, one controller, in original >box, with Sonics 1 and 2. $130 gets the whole bundle shipped to you. >Turns out they're not as addictive when they're yours. Anyway, mail me if >you're interested in this marvel of modern technology. Well, I've been informed that the price on the whole thing I'm selling is now less than the price I'm selling it for. That will teach me to wait that long before getting rid of electronic equipment. Nevermind, everyone, I'm keeping the thing. --- Andrew Boyko aboyko@dixie.com
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From: rsjoyce@eos.ncsu.edu (ROGER STEPHEN JOYCE) Subject: Mac monitor **WANTED** Originator: rsjoyce@c00402-346dan.eos.ncsu.edu Reply-To: rsjoyce@eos.ncsu.edu (ROGER STEPHEN JOYCE) Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos Lines: 11 Wanted: color monitor >= 14" suitable for use on a Macintosh Centris 610. I am planning on purchasing one of these machines soon and don't want to have to pay full price for a new monitor when a used one will do me just as well. If you have one you'd like to part with, please email me with the specs and price. Thanks. Roger rsjoyce@eos.ncsu.edu
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From: dean@fringe.rain.com (Dean Woodward) Subject: Re: Comments on a 1984 Honda Interceptor 1000? Organization: Organization for Mass Confusion. Lines: 30 jearls@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM (Jeffrey David Earls) writes: > In article <19APR93.15421177@skyfox> howp@skyfox writes: > >Hi. > > I am considering the purchase of a 1984 Honda 1000cc Interceptor for > >$2095 CDN (about $1676 US). I don't know the mileage on this bike, but from > >the picture in the 'RV Trader' magazine, it looks to be in good shape. > >Can anybody enlighten me as to whether this is a good purchase? > > Oog. I hate to jump in on this type of thread but .... > > pass on the VF1000. It's big, top heavy, and carries lots of > expensive parts. What he said. Most of my friends refer to them as "ground magnets." One > ============================================================================= > |Jeff Earls jearls@tekig6.pen.tek.com | DoD #0530 KotTG KotSPT WMTC AMA > |'89 FJ1200 - Millennium Falcon | Squid Factor: 16.99 > |'93 KLR650 - Thumpy | "Hit the button Chewie!"... Han Solo > > "There ain't nothin' like a 115 mph sweeper in the Idaho rockies." - me -- Dean Woodward | "You want to step into my world? dean@fringe.rain.com | It's a socio-psychotic state of Bliss..." '82 Virago 920 | -Guns'n'Roses, 'My World' DoD # 0866
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From: pmy@vivaldi.acc.virginia.edu (Pete Yadlowsky) Subject: Re: Who's next? Mormons and Jews? Organization: University of Virginia Lines: 17 Ken Arromdee writes >>Did they not know that these men were federal officers? >Do you know what a "no-knock search" is? Yes, but tell me how you think your question answers my question. If the BDs didn't know immediately that they were dealing with feds (uniform apparel, insignia), they must have figured it out in pretty short order. Why did they keep fighting? They seemed awfully ready for having been attacked "without warning". -- Peter M. Yadlowsky | Wake! The sky is light! Academic Computing Center | Let us to the Net again... University of Virginia | Companion keyboard. pmy@Virginia.EDU | - after Basho
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From: alung@megatest.com (Aaron Lung) Subject: Re: Telephone on hook/off hok ok circuit Organization: Megatest Corporation Lines: 59 In article <1993Apr15.144826.4607@bnr.ca> moffatt@bnr.ca (John Thomson) writes: >: >> >Just a thought of mine here: >: >> >Since an on-hook line is aprox 48-50V, and off-hook it usually drops below 1 >: >> >How about an LED in series with a zener say around 30V. >: >> >On-hook = LED on >: >> >Off-hook = LED off. >: >> >Would this work? If anyone tries/tried it, please let me know. >: >> >: >> Aye, there's the rub -- if you draw enough current to light an LED, the >: >> equipment at the phone company will think you've gone off hook. >: >> In the on-hook state you're not supposed to draw current. >: > >: >Which means you should just use your Digital VoltMeter. You can use an >: >old VOM but the phone company equipment can detect that and might think >: >there's something wrong with the cable. >: > >: >: Look Guys, what's the problem here? If you want a light that goes on when >: the 'phone is *Off* hook, all you need it to run it in *series* with the >: line, as I mentioned in my previous post. If you want a light that goes on >: when the 'phone is *on* hook, all you need is a voltage threshold detector. > >If you're going to do the series Diode thing (which is the easiest), just >make sure that the LED can take the current (I can't recall it off-hand, but >it's something like 100mA or more?) Careful now folks... Also consider the 90VAC+ @20Hz that is forced on ring and tip when the phone's supposed to ring! Even with a simple zener and LED setup, you might end up with some carbon real quick. Whatever scheme you use, make sure you've got at least 200V-rated components on the frontend. Also remember that, if I'm not mistaken, the phone line is a 600ohm equivalent circuit. Any current you draw from the 48V or so gets dropped across that 600ohms. That's fine until you're down to roughly 12V, when Ma Bell considers it to be off-hook. But dropping it that far down is probably a big no-no. The easiest implementation to accomplish the above?? tip ------->|-----\/\/\/\-----+----------+ rectifier resistor | | diode | \ V / zener /---/ \ resistor | / | | | V LED | --- | | ring --------------------------+----------+ This is only a suggestion...go ahead and blow holes in it, but you get the idea. Choose a high-efficiency LED so you don't need much current to get it to light up. Choose values for the other components as required. aaron
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From: salmon@cwis.unomaha.edu (David Salmon) Subject: Re: HELP - SCSI Woes on Mac IIfx Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha Lines: 16 According to the official documentation, failure to use the IIfx terminator can not only affect SCSI bus performance but can also damage the bus. Whether this is your problem or not I don't know. I have had sporadic SCSI problems with my IIfx since I bought it. (I cannot connect more than three devices, fourth one causes major problems). First thing to do is to try to reformat your drive on someone elses system. If you continue to get errors it is probably the drive. If it formats fine then I would try to format it on your system with no externals. If this fails then the SCSI controller on your IIfx needs repair/replacement. Hope this helps. -- David C. Salmon salmon@unomaha.edu
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From: mikey@eukanuba.wpd.sgi.com (Mike Yang) Subject: Re: 17" Monitors Reply-To: mikey@sgi.com Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Lines: 15 Nntp-Posting-Host: eukanuba.wpd.sgi.com In article <1qulqa$hp2@access.digex.net>, rash@access.digex.com (Wayne Rash) writes: |> The F550iW is optimized for Windows. It powers down when the screen |> blanker appears, it powers down with you turn your computer off, and it |> meets all of the Swedish standards. It's also protected against EMI from |> adjacent monitors. Thanks for the info. |> Personally, I think the F550i is more bang for the buck right now. How much more does the F550iW cost? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Yang Silicon Graphics, Inc. mikey@sgi.com 415/390-1786
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Subject: quick way to tell if your local beat writer is dumb. From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky - Hobokenite) Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken Lines: 10 jayson stark (i trhink that's him) fits perfectly in this category. anyone who writes "dean palmer has 2 homers - at this pace, he'll have 324 home runs!" should be shot. if, at the end of april, he has 11, and anyone writes "at this pace, he'll have 100+ homers!" they shouldbe shot too. - bob gaj
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From: joker@diku.dk (Morten Christian Holmgreen) Subject: Re: 17" Monitors Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen Lines: 23 catone@compstat.wharton.upenn.edu (Tony Catone) writes: >In article <C5GEH5.n1D@utdallas.edu> goyal@utdallas.edu (MOHIT K GOYAL) writes: > Oh yeah, I just read in another newsgroup that the T560i uses a > high quality Trinitron tube than is in most monitors.(the Sony > 1604S for example) and this is where the extra cost comes from. It > is also where the high bandwidth comes from, and the fantastic > image, and the large image size, etc, etc... >It's also where the two annoying lines across the screen (one a third >down, the other two thirds down) come from. Annoying??? Are you actually using one or are you just talking? ;-) I'm sitting in from of one right now and I must say I never notice them! Yes, of course I can see them if I look, but annoying? NO WAY!!! Christian -- M. Christian Holmgreen / joker@diku.dk / mochmch@uts.uni-c.dk M.Sc. student, University of Copenhagen, Dept. of Computer Science "Human errors can only be avoided if one can avoid the use of humans"
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From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) Subject: Re: Need advice for riding with someone on pillion Keywords: advice, pillion, help! Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) Organization: Columbia University Distribution: na Lines: 44 In article <C5t759.DsC@well.sf.ca.us> rwert@well.sf.ca.us (Bob Wert) writes: <...> <...> >This person is <100 lbs. and fairly small, so I don't see weight as too much >of a problem, but what sort of of advice should I give her before we go? >I want her to hold onto me :-) rather than the grab rail out back, and >I've heard that she should look over my shoulder in the direction we're >turning so she leans *with* me, but what else? Are there traditional >signals for SLOW DOWN!! or GO FASTER!! or I HAFTA GO PEE!! etc.??? I've never liked my passengers to try and shift their weight with the turns at all... I find the weight shift can be very sudden and unnerving. It's one thing if they're just getting comfortable or decide to look over your other shoulder, but I don't recommend having him/her shift her weight with each turn... too violent. Also (I think someone already said this) make sure your passenger wears good gear. I sometimes choose to ride without a helmet or lacking other safety gear (depends on how squidly I feel) but I won't let passengers do it. What I do to myself I can handle, but I wouldn't want to hurt anyone else, so I don't let them on without gloves, jacket, (at least) jeans, heavy boots, and a helmet that *fits* >I really want this to be a positive experience for us both, mainly so that >she'll want to go with me again, so any help will be appreciated... Go *real* easy. It's amazing how solid a grip you have on the handle bars that your passenger does not. Don't make her feel like she's going to slide off the back, and "snappy" turns for you are sickening lurches for her. In general, it feels much less controlled and smooth as a passenger. I can't stand being on the back of my brother's bike, and I ride aggressively when i ride and I know he's a good pilot... still, everything feels very unsteady when you're a passenger. >Thanks, > -Bob- Show off by not showing off the first time out... ------- "This is where I wanna sit and buy you a drink someday." - Temple of the Dog Sea-Bass Sears --> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu --> DoD#516 <-- |Stanley, ID.| '79 Yamaha XS750F -- '77 BMW R100S -- '85 Toyota 4Runner -- | NYC, NY. |
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From: mdf0@shemesh.GTE.com (Mark Feblowitz) Subject: Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition? <1qht2d$8pg@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> <1qhu7s$d3u@agate.berkeley.edu> Reply-To: mfeblowitz@gte.com Organization: GTE Laboratories Inc. Lines: 17 In-reply-to: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu's message of 14 Apr 93 21:03:56 GMT In article <1qhu7s$d3u@agate.berkeley.edu> spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes: It's worse than that -- there *is* no such thing as a double-blind study on the effects of MSG, by virtue of the fact that MSG changes the taste of food in a characteristic way that is detectable by the subject and that cannot be duplicated by a placebo. Common! You can easily disguise to flavor of MSG by putting it in a capsule. Then, the study becomes a double blind of MSG capsules against control capsules (containing exactly the same contents minus the MSG). -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Feblowitz, GTE Laboratories Inc., 40 Sylvan Rd. Waltham, MA 02254 mfeblowitz@GTE.com, (617) 466-2947, fax: (617) 890-9320
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From: ece_0028@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (David Anderson) Subject: Re: Christian Owned Organization list Organization: University of Arizona Lines: 15 In article <1993Apr13.025426.22532@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes: >In article <47749@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> shopper@ucsd.edu writes: >> >>Does anyone have or know where I can find a list of christian-owned >>corporations and companies? One that I know of is WordPerfect. > >I believe that WordPerfect is actually owned by the Mormons. Sorry, but Mormons aren't generally considered to be Christians. >-- >=kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu | B(0-4) c- d- e++ f- g++ k(+) m r(-) s++(+) t | TSAKC= >=My thoughts, my posts, my ideas, my responsibility, my beer, my pizza. OK???= >="Do you have some pumps and a purse in this shade? A perfume that whispers, = >='please come back to me'? I'm looking for something in Green."-Laurie Morgan=
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Subject: roman.bmp 07/14 From: pwiseman@salmon.usd.edu (Cliff) Reply-To: pwiseman@salmon.usd.edu (Cliff) Distribution: usa Organization: University of South Dakota Lines: 958 ------------ Part 7 of 14 ------------ MI:6EI:6EI:6EI:6EI:6EI:6EI:6EI4='1T='1T='1T='I:6EI:6EI:6EI0L+ M"PL+"PL+"PL+"PL+"PL+I:6EI:6E1T='1T='W]_?W]]Z>GHJ*BJ[NUY>`P,# M`YF9F9D]/3T]/9F9F0->7KN[N[N[7EX#`P.9F9F'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>' MAX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>' MAX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>' MAX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>' MAX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>' MAX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>' MASC`P,!;;L`X.$O#P\!;`M2YYK9:5]3/R%?/`A2JKB+L._$^AX>'AX>'AX>' MAX=75\@%2J##=4V^,"F,N)P-]5%1JZ$D*61DOF1D9(ST!H>'AX>'AX>'AX>' MAX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AVPVT_%N2IJL8YMD9#OQ M(K[Q9*R'AX>'AX>'AX>'AX>'AU=75U>BP2'<`EMLTXCL'6X%2J"L\2WE922, M!F`-4<Q@4?6'AX>'A\!+6ZJBU-3/5]345]175U>B:W69TG$9L+"PL+!3BS3% MQ6=G9P],3(F)R<F)B8F)B<G)%A865%145%14%A86%A86%A86%A86%A;)R80- M$PU1S.%D\64B[[;OO;6Q.XE,3&=&-C84HM2`7PRV?M3J7T,=:!V`P2&L[.S! 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From: lmebold@sgcl1.unisg.ch Subject: Re: ISA to EISA Distribution: comp Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland Lines: 30 In article <9APR199312315727@envmsa.eas.asu.edu>, firman@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (B B S) writes: > In article <CASEY.93Apr9115458@grace.wharton.upenn.edu>, casey@grace.wharton.upenn.edu (Shawn Casey) writes... >>Hello, >> >>I have a question for anyone that may be familiar with ISA and EISA sytem >>configurations. >> >>1) After I switch the ISA boards into the EISA board (all of the cards are >>ISA) the system seems to work with no problem what so ever. But some of the >>interupt problems that we had with the ISA board continue with the EISA board. >>Is it my understanding that the EISA board should be able to handle IRQ >>conficts when running windows. >> >> Problem: When running our network via telnet (tcp/ip) with windows >> running the system kicks us out of windows (IRQ confict within windows >> I assume). >> >>Also, are there any memory address problems that will happen when the >>boards are switched (base memory that is). > > As far as I know, if you are using EISA mother board, you have to use also > EISA cards or else your computer system will be slower than when you're > using ISA board with ISA cards. > -Bill That's nonsense!! You can use ISA cards in an EISA-system without problem and at the same speed as in an ISA system!! -Luke
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From: ahatcher@athena.cs.uga.edu (Allan Hatcher) Subject: Re: Traffic morons Organization: University of Georgia, Athens Lines: 37 In article <Stafford-200493102833@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.Edu (John Stafford) writes: >In article <10326.97.uupcb@compdyn.questor.org>, >ryan_cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau) wrote: >> >> NMM>From: nielsmm@imv.aau.dk (Niels Mikkel Michelsen) >> NMM>Subject: How to act in front of traffic jerks >> >> NMM>The other day, it was raining cats and dogs, therefor I was going only to >> NMM>the speed limit, on nothing more, on my bike. This guy in his BMW was >> NMM>driving 1-2 meters behind me for 7-800 meters and at the next red light I >> NMM>calmly put the bike on its leg, walked back to this car, he rolled down the >> NMM>window, and I told him he was a total idiot (and the reason why). >> >> NMM>Did I do the right thing? > > imho, you did the wrong thing. You could have been shot > or he could have run over your bike or just beat the shit > out of you. Consider that the person is foolish enough > to drive like a fool and may very well _act_ like one, too. > > Just get the heck away from the idiot. > > IF the driver does something clearly illegal, you _can_ > file a citizens arrest and drag that person into court. > It's a hassle for you but a major hassle for the perp. > >==================================================== >John Stafford Minnesota State University @ Winona You can't make a Citizens arrest on anything but a felony. . > > All standard disclaimers apply.
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From: jim@rand.org (Jim Gillogly) Subject: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow Summary: bohica Keywords: encryption, wiretap, clipper, key-escrow, Mykotronx Organization: Banzai Institute Lines: 292 Nntp-Posting-Host: mycroft.rand.org This document is in the anonymous ftp directory at NIST. Looks to me like the other shoe has dropped. Jim Gillogly Trewesday, 25 Astron S.R. 1993, 17:00 ------------------- Note: This file will also be available via anonymous file transfer from csrc.ncsl.nist.gov in directory /pub/nistnews and via the NIST Computer Security BBS at 301-948-5717. --------------------------------------------------- THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary _________________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release April 16, 1993 STATEMENT BY THE PRESS SECRETARY The President today announced a new initiative that will bring the Federal Government together with industry in a voluntary program to improve the security and privacy of telephone communications while meeting the legitimate needs of law enforcement. The initiative will involve the creation of new products to accelerate the development and use of advanced and secure telecommunications networks and wireless communications links. For too long there has been little or no dialogue between our private sector and the law enforcement community to resolve the tension between economic vitality and the real challenges of protecting Americans. Rather than use technology to accommodate the sometimes competing interests of economic growth, privacy and law enforcement, previous policies have pitted government against industry and the rights of privacy against law enforcement. Sophisticated encryption technology has been used for years to protect electronic funds transfer. It is now being used to protect electronic mail and computer files. While encryption technology can help Americans protect business secrets and the unauthorized release of personal information, it also can be used by terrorists, drug dealers, and other criminals. A state-of-the-art microcircuit called the "Clipper Chip" has been developed by government engineers. The chip represents a new approach to encryption technology. It can be used in new, relatively inexpensive encryption devices that can be attached to an ordinary telephone. It scrambles telephone communications using an encryption algorithm that is more powerful than many in commercial use today. This new technology will help companies protect proprietary information, protect the privacy of personal phone conversations and prevent unauthorized release of data transmitted electronically. At the same time this technology preserves the ability of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies to intercept lawfully the phone conversations of criminals. A "key-escrow" system will be established to ensure that the "Clipper Chip" is used to protect the privacy of law-abiding Americans. Each device containing the chip will have two unique 2 "keys," numbers that will be needed by authorized government agencies to decode messages encoded by the device. When the device is manufactured, the two keys will be deposited separately in two "key-escrow" data bases that will be established by the Attorney General. Access to these keys will be limited to government officials with legal authorization to conduct a wiretap. The "Clipper Chip" technology provides law enforcement with no new authorities to access the content of the private conversations of Americans. To demonstrate the effectiveness of this new technology, the Attorney General will soon purchase several thousand of the new devices. In addition, respected experts from outside the government will be offered access to the confidential details of the algorithm to assess its capabilities and publicly report their findings. The chip is an important step in addressing the problem of encryption's dual-edge sword: encryption helps to protect the privacy of individuals and industry, but it also can shield criminals and terrorists. We need the "Clipper Chip" and other approaches that can both provide law-abiding citizens with access to the encryption they need and prevent criminals from using it to hide their illegal activities. In order to assess technology trends and explore new approaches (like the key-escrow system), the President has directed government agencies to develop a comprehensive policy on encryption that accommodates: -- the privacy of our citizens, including the need to employ voice or data encryption for business purposes; -- the ability of authorized officials to access telephone calls and data, under proper court or other legal order, when necessary to protect our citizens; -- the effective and timely use of the most modern technology to build the National Information Infrastructure needed to promote economic growth and the competitiveness of American industry in the global marketplace; and -- the need of U.S. companies to manufacture and export high technology products. The President has directed early and frequent consultations with affected industries, the Congress and groups that advocate the privacy rights of individuals as policy options are developed. 3 The Administration is committed to working with the private sector to spur the development of a National Information Infrastructure which will use new telecommunications and computer technologies to give Americans unprecedented access to information. This infrastructure of high-speed networks ("information superhighways") will transmit video, images, HDTV programming, and huge data files as easily as today's telephone system transmits voice. Since encryption technology will play an increasingly important role in that infrastructure, the Federal Government must act quickly to develop consistent, comprehensive policies regarding its use. The Administration is committed to policies that protect all Americans' right to privacy while also protecting them from those who break the law. Further information is provided in an accompanying fact sheet. The provisions of the President's directive to acquire the new encryption technology are also available. For additional details, call Mat Heyman, National Institute of Standards and Technology, (301) 975-2758. --------------------------------- QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION'S TELECOMMUNICATIONS INITIATIVE Q: Does this approach expand the authority of government agencies to listen in on phone conversations? A: No. "Clipper Chip" technology provides law enforcement with no new authorities to access the content of the private conversations of Americans. Q: Suppose a law enforcement agency is conducting a wiretap on a drug smuggling ring and intercepts a conversation encrypted using the device. What would they have to do to decipher the message? A: They would have to obtain legal authorization, normally a court order, to do the wiretap in the first place. They would then present documentation of this authorization to the two entities responsible for safeguarding the keys and obtain the keys for the device being used by the drug smugglers. The key is split into two parts, which are stored separately in order to ensure the security of the key escrow system. Q: Who will run the key-escrow data banks? A: The two key-escrow data banks will be run by two independent entities. At this point, the Department of Justice and the Administration have yet to determine which agencies will oversee the key-escrow data banks. Q: How strong is the security in the device? How can I be sure how strong the security is? A: This system is more secure than many other voice encryption systems readily available today. While the algorithm will remain classified to protect the security of the key escrow system, we are willing to invite an independent panel of cryptography experts to evaluate the algorithm to assure all potential users that there are no unrecognized vulnerabilities. Q: Whose decision was it to propose this product? A: The National Security Council, the Justice Department, the Commerce Department, and other key agencies were involved in this decision. This approach has been endorsed by the President, the Vice President, and appropriate Cabinet officials. Q: Who was consulted? The Congress? Industry? A: We have on-going discussions with Congress and industry on encryption issues, and expect those discussions to intensify as we carry out our review of encryption policy. We have briefed members of Congress and industry leaders on the decisions related to this initiative. Q: Will the government provide the hardware to manufacturers? A: The government designed and developed the key access encryption microcircuits, but it is not providing the microcircuits to product manufacturers. Product manufacturers can acquire the microcircuits from the chip manufacturer that produces them. Q: Who provides the "Clipper Chip"? A: Mykotronx programs it at their facility in Torrance, California, and will sell the chip to encryption device manufacturers. The programming function could be licensed to other vendors in the future. Q: How do I buy one of these encryption devices? A: We expect several manufacturers to consider incorporating the "Clipper Chip" into their devices. Q: If the Administration were unable to find a technological solution like the one proposed, would the Administration be willing to use legal remedies to restrict access to more powerful encryption devices? A: This is a fundamental policy question which will be considered during the broad policy review. The key escrow mechanism will provide Americans with an encryption product that is more secure, more convenient, and less expensive than others readily available today, but it is just one piece of what must be the comprehensive approach to encryption technology, which the Administration is developing. The Administration is not saying, "since encryption threatens the public safety and effective law enforcement, we will prohibit it outright" (as some countries have effectively done); nor is the U.S. saying that "every American, as a matter of right, is entitled to an unbreakable commercial encryption product." There is a false "tension" created in the assessment that this issue is an "either-or" proposition. Rather, both concerns can be, and in fact are, harmoniously balanced through a reasoned, balanced approach such as is proposed with the "Clipper Chip" and similar encryption techniques. Q: What does this decision indicate about how the Clinton Administration's policy toward encryption will differ from that of the Bush Administration? A: It indicates that we understand the importance of encryption technology in telecommunications and computing and are committed to working with industry and public-interest groups to find innovative ways to protect Americans' privacy, help businesses to compete, and ensure that law enforcement agencies have the tools they need to fight crime and terrorism. Q: Will the devices be exportable? Will other devices that use the government hardware? A: Voice encryption devices are subject to export control requirements. Case-by-case review for each export is required to ensure appropriate use of these devices. The same is true for other encryption devices. One of the attractions of this technology is the protection it can give to U.S. companies operating at home and abroad. With this in mind, we expect export licenses will be granted on a case-by-case basis for U.S. companies seeking to use these devices to secure their own communications abroad. We plan to review the possibility of permitting wider exportability of these products. -- Jim Gillogly Trewesday, 25 Astron S.R. 1993, 17:01
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From: grady@netcom.com (1016/2EF221) Subject: Re: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption Organization: capriccioso X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6] Distribution: na Lines: 54 I am eager to hear the legal theory behind restricting exchange of cryptographic data and encrypted messages, given the first admendment; the theory behind regulating the *personal* encryption of one's personal *thoughts and feelings* seems even less tenable. Perhaps if we make a *treaty* with, say, Iceland, to restrict crypto paraphernalia can a good "end run" around the Constitution happen... (Treaties -- as someone pointed out -- has the force of any other "law of the land". Like the Bill of Rights.) Amendment 1 Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Amendment 2 A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Amendment 3 No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law. Amendment 4 The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Amendment 5 No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. Well -- at least for a few minutes we had some privacy... -- grady@netcom.com 2EF221 / 15 E2 AD D3 D1 C6 F3 FC 58 AC F7 3D 4F 01 1E 2F