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4500 | From: mancus@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Keith Mancus)
Subject: Re: Lindbergh and the moon (was:Why not give $1G)
Organization: MDSSC
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jbh55289@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Josh Hopkins) writes:
>mancus@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Keith Mancus) writes:
>>cook@varmit.mdc.com (Layne Cook) writes:
>>> The $25k Orteig prize helped Lindbergh sell his Spirit
>>> of Saint Louis venture to his financial backers. But I strongly suspect
>>> that his Saint Louis backers had the foresight to realize that much more
>>> was at stake than $25,000. Could it work with the moon? Who are the
>>> far-sighted financial backers of today?
>> The commercial uses of a transportation system between already-settled-
>>and-civilized areas are obvious. Spaceflight is NOT in this position.
>>The correct analogy is not with aviation of the '30's, but the long
>>transocean voyages of the Age of Discovery.
> Lindbergh's flight took place in '27, not the thirties.
Of course; sorry for the misunderstanding. I was referring to the fact
that far more aeronautical development took place in the '30's. For much
of the '20's, the super-abundance of Jennies and OX-5 engines held down the
industry. By 1926, many of the obsolete WWI aircraft had been retired
and Whirlwind had their power/weight ratio and reliability up to the point
where long-distance flights became practical. It's important to note that
the Atlantic was flown not once but THREE times in 1927: Lindbergh,
Chamberlin and Levine, and Byrd's _America_. "When it's time to railroad,
you railroad."
>>It didn't require gov't to fund these as long as something was known about
>>the potential for profit at the destination. In practice, some were gov't
>>funded, some were private.
>Could you give examples of privately funded ones?
Not off the top of my head; I'll have to dig out my reference books again.
However, I will say that the most common arrangement in Prince Henry the
Navigator's Portugal was for the prince to put up part of the money and
merchants to put up the rest. They profits from the voyage would then be
shared.
>>But there was no way that any wise investor would spend a large amount
>>of money on a very risky investment with no idea of the possible payoff.
>A person who puts up $X billion for a moon base is much more likely to do
>it because they want to see it done than because they expect to make money
>off the deal.
The problem is that the amount of prize money required to inspire a
Moon Base is much larger than any but a handful of individuals or corporations
can even consider putting up. The Kremer Prizes (human powered aircraft),
Orteig's prize, Lord Northcliffe's prize for crossing the Atlantic (won in
1919 by Alcock and Brown) were MUCH smaller. The technologies required were
within the reach of individual inventors, and the prize amounts were well
within the reach of a large number of wealthy individuals. I think that only
a gov't could afford to set up a $1B+ prize for any purpose whatsoever.
Note that Burt Rutan suggested that NASP could be built most cheaply by
taking out an ad in AvWeek stating that the first company to build a plane
that could take off and fly the profile would be handed $3B, no questions
asked.
--
Keith Mancus <mancus@butch.jsc.nasa.gov> |
N5WVR <mancus@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov> |
"Black powder and alcohol, when your states and cities fall, |
when your back's against the wall...." -Leslie Fish |
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4501 | From: young@serum.kodak.com (Rich Young)
Subject: Re: Blood Glucose test strips
Originator: young@sasquatch
Nntp-Posting-Host: sasquatch
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Diagnostics Division, Eastman Kodak Company
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In article <1993Apr12.151035.22555@omen.UUCP> caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) writes:
>
>In article <1993Apr11.192644.29219@clpd.kodak.com> young@serum.kodak.com writes:
>>
>> Human glucose: 70 - 110 mg./dL. (fasting) [2]
>
>Are these numbers for whole blood, or plasma?
Serum, actually, but plasma numbers are the same. Whole blood
numbers for humans tend to be somewhat lower (roughly 5 to 10
percent lower). I find the following range for whole blood in
FUNDAMENTALS OF CLINICAL CHEMISTRY: N. W. Teitz, editor; W. B.
Saunders, 1987:
Human glucose (whole blood, fasting levels) --> 60 - 95 mg./dL.
>Which are the strips calibrated for? (Obviously they measure whole blood)
Indeed, they do measure whole blood levels, although they are not
as accurate as a serum test done in a laboratory. One problem is
that cells in the sample continue to metabolize glucose after the
sample is drawn, reducing the apparent level. According to Teitz,
however, results compare "reasonably well" with laboratory results,
although "values below 80 mg./dL. tend to be lower with strip tests,
whereas values above 240 mg./dL. can be very erratic."
>What is the conversion factor between human plasma glucose and
>whole blood (pin prick) glucose concentration?
As stated above, whole blood levels tend to be roughly 5 to 10
percent lower than serum levels. Sample freshness will affect
whole blood levels, however. I don't believe there is a well-
defined "conversion factor," since cell metabolism will affect
samples to varying degrees. The serum/plasma test is much
preferred for any except general "ball park" testing.
-Rich Young (These are not Kodak's opinions.)
|
4502 | From: rscharfy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ryan C Scharfy)
Subject: Re: New Study Out On Gay Percentage
Nntp-Posting-Host: magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Lines: 43
In article <1993Apr16.121720.13017@hemlock.cray.com> rja@mahogany126.cray.com (
Russ Anderson) writes:
>
>In article <15378@optilink.COM>, cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>>
>> From the Santa Rosa (Cal.) Press-Democrat, April 15, 1993, p. B2:
>>
>> Male sex survey: Gay activity low
>>
>> A new natonal study on male sexual behavior, the most thorough
>> examination of American men's sexual practices published since
>> the Kinsey report more than four decades ago, shows about 2
>> percent of the men surveyed had engaged in homosexual sex and
>> 1 percent considered themselves exclusively homosexual.
>
>Actually, what the study shows is that 2 percent of the men surveyed
>*said* they engaged in homosexual sex and 1 percent *said* they
>considered themselves exclusively homosexual.
>
Yes, and of course the Kinsey Report taken 50 years ago in much more liberal
times regarding homosexuality.........
>The point being that what people say and what they acutally do
>may be different.
>
>It is interesting that this clip from the newspaper did not
>mention that difference. Maybe it is conservative media bias. :-)
>
Or smart enough to realize that that argument would have to apply to every
survey regarding homosexuality. Therefore, they would look stupid. (Actually,
Idid see Bryant Gumble bring that point up. Hee, hee).
> The figures on homosexuality in the study released Wednesday
>> by the Alan Guttmacher Institute are significantly lower than
>> the 10 percent figure that has been part of the conventional
>> wisdom since it was published in the Kinsey report.
>
Ryan
|
4503 | From: cui@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Jun Cui)
Subject: How to hold the control to a window object?
Nntp-Posting-Host: maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario.
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// Hope I am in the right group! I'm using BC++'s ObjectWindows (version 3.1),
// trying to get some date processed in a window object. However, when invoking
// the window object, the calling program gives up the control to the window
// object, and keeps executing the next statement. The source code may look
// like the following:
class MyWindow : public TWindow
{
...
};
void MyCallingProg(...) // Could the calling program be a C function?
{ ...
MyWindow *MyWinObj;
MyWinObj = new MyWindow(...);
GetApplication()->MakeWindow(MyWinObj);
MyWinObj->Show(SW_SHOWNORMAL);
next statement; // I want the program to wait here until MyWinObj is closed
... // so that I can get some data back from MyWinObj.
... // I specified the window style to be WS_POPUPWINDOW, didn't
... // help. Is there any other way to execute the window object
... // so that the calling program won't give up the control?
} // Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! --jun
To talk to the Lord with PS/2 through MS-Windows
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4504 | From: mwm+@cs.cmu.edu (Mark Maimone)
Subject: How to read sci.space without netnews
Summary: Space Digest address
Nntp-Posting-Host: a.gp.cs.cmu.edu
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Lines: 36
In article <734975852.F00001@permanet.org> Mark.Prado@p2.f349.n109.z1.permanet.org (Mark Prado) writes:
>If anyone knows anyone else who would like to get sci.space,
>but doesn't have an Internet feed (or has a cryptic Internet
>feed), I would be willing to feed it to them.
Kudos to Mark for his generous offer, but there already exists a
large (email-based) forwarding system for sci.space posts: Space Digest.
It mirrors sci.space exactly, and provides simple two-way communication.
TO SUBSCRIBE:
Send the following message in the *body* (not subject) of an
email message:
subscribe space John Q Public
to one of these addresses:
listserv@uga
listserv@uga.cc.uga.edu
listserv@finhutc
listserv@finhuc.hut.fi
space-request@isu.isunet.edu
You'll receive all the posts in "digest" form once a day. Please
use a listserv if you can, the "space-request" address is handled
manually.
TO POST MESSAGES:
Send your message (with a reasonable Subject line) to:
space@isu.isunet.edu
Questions, comments to space-request@isu.isunet.edu
--
Mark Maimone phone: +1 (412) 268 - 7698
Carnegie Mellon Computer Science email: mwm@cmu.edu
|
4505 | From: mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk (Mike Sixsmith)
Subject: Re: FJ1100/1200 Owners: Tankbag Suggestions Wanted
Organization: University of East Anglia
Lines: 14
martenm@chess.ncsu.edu (Mark Marten) writes:
>I am looking for a new tank bag now, and I wondered if you, as follow
>FJ1100/1200 owners, could make some suggestions as to what has, and has
>not worked for you. If there is already a file on this I apologize for
>asking and will gladly accept any flames that are blown my way!
I've got a Belstaff tankbag on my FJ1100, and it ain't too good. It's
difficult to fix it securely cos of the the tank/fairing/sidepanel layout,
and also with the bars on full lock the bag touches the handlebar switches,
so you get the horn on full left lock and the starter motor on full right!!
If I was buying another I think I'd go for a magnetic one.
|
4506 | From: europa@tomcat.raleigh.ibm.com (Welch Bryan)
Subject: Re: Changing oil by self.
Distribution: usa
Nntp-Posting-Host: tomcat.raleigh.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina
Lines: 20
In article <1993Apr15.222254.6651@rtfm.mlb.fl.us>, gwalker@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Grayson Walker) writes:
|> Why crawl under the car at all? I have a machine I got for my boat that
|> pulls the oil out under suction through the dip stick tube. It does an
|> excellent job and by moving the suction tube around, you can get more
|> old oil out than by using the drain plug. I think I paid $25 at E&B Marine.
|> The oil goes into a steel 3 gal can - wait until it cools and decant into
|> your favorite device. I use soft drink bottles. Easy to take them down to
|> the local oil recycle center.
This does sound good, but I heard it tends to leave more grit, etc in the
oil pan. Also, I've been told to change the old when it's hot before the
grit has much time to settle.
Any opinions?
--
Bryan Welch Amateur Radio: N0SFG
Internet: europa@vnet.ibm.com (best), bwelch@scf.nmsu.edu
Everything will perish save love and music.--Scots Gaelic proverb
Disclaimer: It's all opinion. Everything. So there.
|
4507 | From: mau@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Mau Napoleon)
Subject: Re: Turkey-Cyprus-Bosnia-Serbia-Greece (Armenia-Azeris)
Nntp-Posting-Host: herky.cs.uiowa.edu
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Lines: 63
From article <1993Apr15.092101@IASTATE.EDU>, by tankut@IASTATE.EDU (Sabri T Atan):
> Well, Panos, Mr. Tamamidis?, the way you put it it is only the Turks
> who bear the responsibility of the things happening today. That is hard to
> believe for somebody trying to be objective.
> When it comes to conflicts like our countries having you cannot
> blame one side only, there always are bad guys on both sides.
> What were you doing on Anatolia after the WW1 anyway?
> Do you think it was your right to be there?
There were a couple millions of Greeks living in Asia Minor until 1923.
Someone had to protect them. If not us who??
> I am not saying that conflicts started with that. It is only
> not one side being the aggressive and the ither always suffering.
> It is sad that we (both) still are not trying to compromise.
> I remember the action of the Turkish government by removing the
> visa requirement for greeks to come to Turkey. I thought it
> was a positive attempt to make the relations better.
>
Compromise on what, the invasion of Cyprus, the involment of Turkey in
Greek politics, the refusal of Turkey to accept 12 miles of territorial
waters as stated by international law, the properties of the Greeks of
Konstantinople, the ownership of the islands in the Greek lake,sorry, Aegean.
There are some things on which there can not be a compromise.
> The Greeks I mentioned who wouldn't talk to me are educated
> people. They have never met me but they know! I am bad person
> because I am from Turkey. Politics is not my business, and it is
> not the business of most of the Turks. When it comes to individuals
> why the hatred?
Any person who supports the policies of the Turkish goverment directly or
indirecly is a "bad" person.
It is not your nationality that makes you bad, it is your support of the
actions of your goverment that make you "bad".
People do not hate you because of who you are but because of what you
are. You are a supporter of the policies of the Turkish goverment and
as a such you must pay the price.
> So that makes me think that there is some kind of
> brainwashing going on in Greece. After all why would an educated person
> treat every person from a nation the same way? can you tell me about your
> history books and things you learn about Greek-Turkish
> encounters during your schooling.
> take it easy!
>
> --
> Tankut Atan
> tankut@iastate.edu
>
> "Achtung, baby!"
You do not need brainwashing to turn people against the Turks. Just talk to
Greeks, Arabs, Slavs, Kurds and all other people who had the luck to be under
Turkish occupation.
They will talk to you about murders,rapes,distruction.
You do not learn about Turks from history books, you learn about them from
people who experienced first hand Turkish friendliness.
Napoleon
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4508 | From: charles@tinman.dev.prodigy.com ()
Subject: Re: Can I Change "Licensed To" Data in Windows 3.1?
Nntp-Posting-Host: tinman
Organization: Prodigy Services Company, White Plains, NY
Lines: 11
Have you tried re-installing the software? Otherwise I would be dubious about
simple ways to change that screen. Is it not designed to be an embarassment to
would be pirates?
-Charles
--
Charles Emmons | charles@trintex.uucp | These opinions are
Prodigy Services Co. | charles%trintex@uunet.uu.net | mine alone, unless
White Plains NY 10601 | Voice 914-993-8856 | you would like to
PRODIGY ID - KJRD82A | FAX 914-993-8659 | share them.
|
4509 | From: kjell@hut.fi (Kjell Ljungqvist)
Subject: Driver for Panasonic KX-P4430
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Lines: 15
Distribution: comp
Reply-To: Kjell.Ljungqvist@hut.fi
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.cs.hut.fi
Greetings!
I am looking pro a Win 3.1 printer driver for the Panasonic laser printer
KX-P4430. (I am not sure about the order of the first letters in the
name, but the numbers are right and they are important.) I have found
drivers for Panasonic printers 4450 and so on, but I think there should
be drivers available where the 4430 model is included.
Grateful for any help!
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kjell@hut.fi kjell@niksula.hut.fi kjell@vipunen.hut.fi
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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4510 | From: gerard@dps.co.UK (Gerard O'Driscoll)
Subject: Re: Creating 8 bit windows on 24 bit display.. How?
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 58
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
stolk@fwi.uva.nl writes:
>>
>> A problem occurs when I try to create a window with a visual that is different
>> from the visual of the parent (which uses the default visual which is TC24).
>>
You've got to set border_pixel in your window attributes. The default
is CopyFromParent which gives the BadMatch. Do this:
...
unsigned long valuemask;
...
/*
* if border_width is non-zero you'd better alloc a colour from cmap
* rather than use any old pixel value. Also, use valuemask, it makes
* the code more obvious.
*/
attr.colormap = cmap;
attr.border_pixel = 0;
valuemask = CWColormap | CWBorderPixel;
win = XCreateWindow(
dpy,
DefaultRootWindow(dpy),
10,10,
width,height,
0, /* border width. see comment below */
8, /* depth */
InputOutput, /* class */
vinfo.visual, /* visual */
valuemask,
&attr
);
A note on border_width: your code looked like this:
>> win = XCreateWindow(
>> dpy,
>> DefaultRootWindow(dpy),
>> 10,10,
>> width,height,
>> CopyFromParent, /* border width */
>> 8, /* depth */
>> InputOutput, /* class */
>> vinfo.visual, /* visual */
>> CWColormap,
>> &attr
>> );
border_width set to CopyFromParent works but doesn't make sense.
border_width should be an unsigned int. You get away with it because
CopyFromParent is #define'ed to be zero in X.h. If it happened to be
defined as -1 you'd get a very interesting looking window!
Gerard O'Driscoll (gerard.odriscoll@dps.co.uk)
Du Pont Pixel Systems Ltd.
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4511 | From: cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 47
In <lsran6INN14a@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric
Marsh) writes:
>In article <C5HqxJ.JDG@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lis450bw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (lis450
Student) writes:
>>Hmmmm. Define objective morality. Well, depends upon who you talk to.
>>Some say it means you can't have your hair over your ears, and others say
>>it means Stryper is acceptable. _I_ would say that general principles
>>of objective morality would be listed in one or two places.
>>Ten Commandments
>>Sayings of Jesus
>>the first depends on whether you trust the Bible,
>>the second depends on both whether you think Jesus is God, and whether
>> you think we have accurate copies of the NT.
>Gong!
>Take a moment and look at what you just wrote. First you defined
>an "objective" morality and then you qualified this "objective" morality
>with subjective justifications. Do you see the error in this?
>Sorry, you have just disqualified yourself, but please play again.
>>MAC
>>
>eric
Huh? Please explain. Is there a problem because I based my morality on
something that COULD be wrong? Gosh, there's a heck of a lot of stuff that I
believe that COULD be wrong, and that comes from sources that COULD be wrong.
What do you base your belief on atheism on? Your knowledge and reasoning?
COuldn't that be wrong?
MAC
--
****************************************************************
Michael A. Cobb
"...and I won't raise taxes on the middle University of Illinois
class to pay for my programs." Champaign-Urbana
-Bill Clinton 3rd Debate cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
With new taxes and spending cuts we'll still have 310 billion dollar deficits.
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4512 | From: simsh@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Hillel Y. Sims)
Subject: what size vram simm is this?
Nntp-Posting-Host: aix02.ecs.rpi.edu
Lines: 20
Hi everyone. I recently posted about how I received a bad vram chip for my
new LCIII, and someone responded that it may not actually be bad, but it may
be a 512K LC vram chip, and thus doesn't work properly with my computer. So
I'm wondering if anyone can interpret these codes for me, so I can figure
out what type of chip MacConnection sent me.
Each chip says: M518121A-80J
2515251
On the back of the card, it says 0593
I believe from the numbers that means it is an 80ns chip, but I can't figure
out what the size is supposed to be. If anyone can help, I'd be grateful.
Please email me your response. Thanks a lot!
--
Hillel Sims ----- simsh@rpi.edu ----- Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
"Is rot13 rotated 13 forward or backward?"
--Anonymous
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4513 | From: mdw33310@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael D. Walker)
Subject: Re: Question about Virgin Mary
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 58
a.faris@trl.oz.au (Aziz Faris) writes:
>Helllo Netters:
>I was told the Bible says that God took the body of the Virgin Mary as
>she was being carried for burial. Is this true, if so were in the Bible
>does it say that.
>Regards,
>A.Faris
>[I think you're talking about the "assumption of the Blessed Virgin
>Mary". It says that "The Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin
>Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed
>body and soul into heavenly glory." This was defined by a Papal
>statement in 1950, though it had certainly been believed by some
>before that. Like the Immaculate Conception, this is primarily a
>Roman Catholic doctrine, and like it, it has no direct Biblical
>support. Note that Catholics do not believe in "sola scriptura".
>That is, they do not believe that the Bible is the only source of
>Christian knowledge. Thus the fact that a doctrine has little
>Biblical support is not necessarily significant to them. They believe
>that truth can be passed on through traditions of the Church, and also
>that it can be revealed to the Church. I'm not interested in yet
>another Catholic/Protestant argument, but if any Catholics can tell us
>the basis for these beliefs, I think it would be appropriate. --clh]
Again I find myself wanting to respond to a posting and having neither
the time nor the proper materials with me (you would think I would learn my
lesson by now--but I'm trying to finish writing my Thesis and don't have tons
of time. Anyway...)
The basis for our (the catholic church's) belief in the assumption of
Mary, body and soul, into heaven is that, to put it simply, the apostles
and all the early generation Christians believed it. In fact, throughout their
ministry the apostles kept in close contact with Mary, and 11 of the 12 were
present when she died. Only Thomas was missing--when he arrived several days
later, he asked to be shown her body, and moved with pity, Peter and several of
the other apostles brought him to her tomb. When they arrived the seal was
still unbroken. They broke the seal, entered, and the body was missing. There
was no sign that anyone had entered, forcibly or otherwise, and everything else
was laid out exactly as it had been left. The apostles present all believed
that Mary was assumed into heaven--and the apostles TAUGHT this in their
preaching (of course, this does not appear in any of the texts currently
considered part of the bible, but it does appear in other writings left behind
by several of them.) Basicaly, as an apostolic church (ie. founded by the
apostles), we believe that the teachings of the apostles, whether written down
in the bible or written down in other sources, is true, providing that the
authenticity of those other sources can be confirmed. At least in the case of
the assumption of Mary, the authenticity is quite clear.
Hope this helps--I would welcome anyone who has more information to
add to what I've said.
- Mike Walker
mdw33310@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(Univ. of Illinois)
]
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4514 | From: abou@dam.cee.clarkson.edu (Abou Bakr,Damon 317,268-6611,265-8419)
Subject: Re: Forsale and Wanted (HD/Fax/Typewriter)
Article-I.D.: news.1993Apr6.013847.16309
Organization: Clarkson University
Lines: 29
Nntp-Posting-Host: dam.cee.clarkson.edu
From article <1pf5qe$b3b@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, by jorge@erex.East.Sun.COM (Jorge Lach - Sun BOS Hardware):
>
> I'm looking to *buy* the following items:
>
> Fax machine: a plain one, don't need any extras, just the basic model. Good
> working order only. These sell in stores for dirt cheap, so don't
> make me any offers like "it cost me $599 but I'll sell it for $400"
>
> PC-AT Hard Drive: MFM type, 40 Mbytes, half-height only. I have a Seagate
> ST-151 (3.5") on my machine, looking for same or similar type
>
>
> I have the following item for *sale*:
>
> Electronic Typewriter: Panasonic, with 22K memory, small LCD display. I'm
> selling it bundled with a Panasonic computer interface for this
> typewriter. You can connect it to any PC parallel port (sorry, no
> cable). It works perfect, even in Windows (TTY printer). It's
> great if you need to send letter with "typewriter look". In
> stand-alone mode it has 3 pitches, and several "effects" like
> underline, bold, overstrike. Built-in dictionary and character/word/
> line correction. Asking $150 for both the typewriter and the
> interface
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Jorge Lach Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation
> Jorge.Lach@East.Sun.Com East Coast Division, Chelmsford, MA
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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4515 | Subject: roman.bmp 08/14
From: pwiseman@salmon.usd.edu (Cliff)
Reply-To: pwiseman@salmon.usd.edu (Cliff)
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of South Dakota
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4516 | From: 02106@ravel.udel.edu (Samuel Ross)
Subject: Sams comic sale!! Low prices!!! READ!!!
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OK. Instead of holding an auction, I have decided to compute prices for each comic (after many suggestions). These are the most reasonable prices I can give (not negotiable). If you would like to purchase a comic (or group), simply email me with the title and issue #'s you want. The price for each issue is shown beside each comic. First come, first served!!! There is no more bidding. Meet my price and it is yours. I can be reached at this email address:
02106@chopin.udel.edu or
02106@ravel.udel.edu or
02106@bach.udel.edu or
02106@brahms.udel.edu
NO MORE HAGGLING ABOUT THE PRICE!!!!!!!!
LOTS OF COMICS FOR $1, $2, or $3 LOOK AT LIST!!!!!
Shipping is $2 for 1-3 comics. For more than 3, the price will be determined by the volume of the purchase (I may have to use a big heavy box for large orders which costs more to mail).
For all those who have bought comics from me, thanks!!!
All comics are near mint unless otherwise noted (my books were graded by
mile high comics and other comic professional collectors, not me!)
Here is the list:
Incredible Hulk
156 (vs another Hulk) $3
195 $2
196 $2
246 (vs Captain Marvel) $1
248 $1
249 $1
250 (Double size issue vs Silver Surfer) $5
255 (vs Thor) $1
279 $1
300 $2
312 $2
313 $1
316 (vs Bi Coastal Avengers) $1
347 $1
348 $1
350 (vs Thing) $2
354 $1
358 $1
360 $1
362 (vs Werewolf By Night) $2
364 $1
365 $1
366 $1
379 (1 copy) $5
Punisher
50 $1
57 $2
Punisher War Journal
29 (Ghost Rider) $2
30 (Ghost Rider) $2
Punisher Armory
1 $4
2 $2
Original Ghost Rider Rides Again (Reprint)
1 $1
Ghost Rider (old series)
37 $3
43 (vs Johnny Blaze) $3
77 (2 copies, origin of GR dream) $4 each
Ghost Rider (new series)
15 (1st print, Green glow in dark cover, 1 copy) $5
15 (2nd print, gold cover w/ glow cover) $3
Web of Spiderman
56 (2 copies) $2 each
60 $3
69 (vs Hulk, 1 copy left!!!) $2
70 (SpiderHulk, 1 copy left!!!) $2
71 $1
72 $1
78 $1
Deadly Foes of Spiderman
1 (2 copies) $2 each
2 $2
3 $2
Amazing Spiderman vs Dr. Octopus (special NACME issue) $2
Amazing Spiderman
350 (vs Dr. Doom, 1 copy LEFT!!!) $2
Spiderman (1990)
1 (silver, not bagged) $4
6 $3
7 $3
8 (2 copies) $2 each
9 (w/ Wolverine, 1 COPY LEFT!!!) $2
10 $2
11 $1
13 $5
16 $1
New Warriors
1 (gold cover) $2
8 $4
10 $2
11 $1
12 $1
13 $1
14 (w/ Darkhawk) $1
15 $1
Superman Man of Steel #1 $2
Superman (new)
53 (2 copies) $1 each
55 $1
56 $1
Adventures of Superman
479 $1
Annual #3 $1
Superman Annual #3 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1
Action Comics #666 $1
Avengers West Coast #69 (Hawkeye vs US Agent) $1
Batman
465 (Robin returns) $2
466 $1
467 $1
Annual #15 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $3
Captain America
230 (vs Hulk) $2
257 (vs Hulk) $1
Armegedon 2001
1 $4
2 $2
Foolkiller #1 $2
Infinity Gauntlet
1 $6
4 $3
5 $3
Double Dragon #1 $1
Deathlok (series)
2 $1
Transformers #80 (last issue) $2
Wonder Man
1 $1
2 $1
Flaming Carrot #25 (w/ Ninja Turtles) $2
The Comet #1 $1
Legend of the Shield #1 $1
Justice Society of America
1 $1
2 $1
3 $1
4 $1
Official movie mag from Turtles II movie (sealed w/ Jelloman comic) $5
Robin
1 (1 copies w/ poster) $3
1 (3rd print) $1
5 (6 copies) $1 each
Guardians of the Galaxy
1 $6
2 $3
3 $2
4 $2
5 $2
6 $2
7 $2
8 $2
9 (2 copies) $3 each
10 $2
11 $2
12 $1
13 $3
14 $3
15 $1
16 $1
17 $1
18 (2 copies) $2 each
Superman vs Amazing Spiderman (oversized issue from 70's) $7
DarkHawk
1 (3 copies) $8 each
2 (2 copies) $6 each
3 $5
4 $4
5 $4
6 $3
7 $2
8 $2
9 $3
10 $1
Thor
246 $1
428 $1
429 (vs Juggernaut) $2
430 (w/ Ghost Rider) $1
431 $1
432 (Thor vs Loki, 2 copies) $3 each
433 (new Thor) $2
Annual #16 $1
What if....
13 $1
23 $1
25 $2
26 $1
Alpha Flight
29 $1
51 $6
53 $6
94 (vs Fant. 4) $1
New Mutants
22 $2
100 (last issue, 1st look at X-Force, 1st print, 2 copies) $5 each
100 (2nd print, gold cover) $4
Flash (new)
43 $1
48 $1
49 $1
50 $2
51 $1
Annual #4 $1
X-Men (new)
1 (all 5 covers) $1 each but $2 for magneto foldout cover
Uncanny X-Men
191 $3
215 $2
255 (2 copies) $2 each
258 $6
268 (1 sold,1 copy left!, Lee reg artist) $10
275 (1 COPY LEFT 1st print) $6
275 (gold 2nd print) $3
276 $3
277 $3
278 $2
279 $2
280 $2
281 $3
282 $4
283 $6
Defenders
52 (Hulk vs Sub Mariner) $2
Fantastic Four
347 $4
348 $2
349 (3 copies) $2 each
Wolverine
11 $3
20 $2
41 (w/ Cable, 2 copies) $6 each
42 $4
43 $3
Silver Surfer (1987)
1 $6
2 $3
3 $3
4 $3
5 $2
6 $2
8 $2
22 $2
24 $2
32 $2
49 $2
50 (Foil cover, only 1 copy left!!) $6
51 $2
52 $2
53 $1
54 $1
55 $1
56 $1
58 $2
59 $2
Avengers
326 $3
328 (origin of Rage) $3
X-Factor
40 $6
67 $3
68 $6
71 $3
73 $1
Quasar
21 $1
22 $1
23 $1
24 $1
Green Lantern (1990)
3 $2
9 (2 copies) $1 each
10 $1
11 $1
12 $1
Toxic Avenger
1 (3 copies) $1 each
2 $1
Sleepwalker
1 (3 copies) $2 each
3 $1
7 $1
Kool Aid Man #1 (sealed in white bag, 2 copies) $2 each
X-Force
1 (bagged w/ Cable Card) $4
1 (bagged w/ Shatterstar Card) $3
2 $2
3 $1
4 $1
NFL Superpro
1 $1
Dr. Strange #31 $1
Hawkworld Annual #2 (2nd print, Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1
Hawk & Dove Annual #2 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1
Justice League of America Annual #5 (Armegedon 2001 tie in) $1
Send all bids and comments to
02106@chopin.udel.edu
Thanks
Sam (the "ex" comic book collector)
College of Electrical Engineering, University of Delaware
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4517 | From: mb4008@cehp11 (Morgan J Bullard)
Subject: Re: speeding up windows
Keywords: speed
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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djserian@flash.LakeheadU.Ca (Reincarnation of Elvis) writes:
>I have a 386/33 with 8 megs of memory
>I have noticed that lately when I use programs like WpfW or Corel Draw
>my computer "boggs" down and becomes really sluggish!
>What can I do to increase performance? What should I turn on or off
>Will not loading wallpapers or stuff like that help when it comes to
>the running speed of windows and the programs that run under it?
>Thanx in advance
>Derek
1) make sure your hard drive is defragmented. This will speed up more than
just windows BTW. Use something like Norton's or PC Tools.
2) I _think_ that leaving the wall paper out will use less RAM and therefore
will speed up your machine but I could very will be wrong on this.
There's a good chance you've already done this but if not it may speed things
up. good luck
Morgan Bullard mb4008@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu
or mjbb@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>--
>$_ /|$Derek J.P. Serianni $ E-Mail : djserian@flash.lakeheadu.ca $
>$\'o.O' $Sociologist $ It's 106 miles to Chicago,we've got a full tank$
>$=(___)=$Lakehead University $ of gas, half a pack of cigarettes,it's dark,and$
>$ U $Thunder Bay, Ontario$ we're wearing sunglasses. -Elwood Blues $
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4518 | From: theslim@anathema.engin.umich.edu (Eric Michael Slimko)
Subject: Real-Time Data Display Tool
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
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Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: anathema.engin.umich.edu
Originator: theslim@anathema.engin.umich.edu
Hi,
I'm looking for a X-Windows tool that can display data (in a
2D plot) in real time with a couple different signals.
Anybody know of such a gem? Please Email me as I do not read
this group often.
Thanks much!
Eric Slimko
theslim@caen.engin.umich.edu
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4519 | From: sjp@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Steve Phillips)
Subject: Re: SUPER MEGA AUTOMOBILE SIGHTING(s)!!!!! Exotics together!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5
Lines: 8
Give out the address, I'll drive by and take a look myself, then post.
--
Stephen Phillips
Atlanta Response Center
Atlanta, Ga.
Home of the Braves!
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4520 | From: fist@iscp.bellcore.com (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Contact person for boots
Keywords: combat
Nntp-Posting-Host: foxtrot.iscp.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
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In article <1993Apr15.132316.4054@news.columbia.edu>,
rdc8@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Robert D Castro) writes:
|> Would anyone out there in DoDland be able to help me out in giving
|> me
|> a contact to purchase a pair of military air-borne combat boots (9
|> 1/2
|> D in size). These boots (so I have read here on rec.moto) are calf
|> height boots that use only velcro for enclosure. I have phoned
|> around
|> and nobody seems to carry such an item. I admit I have not gone
|> into
|> the deepest bowels of NYC yet for the search but I have made some
|> calls to several of the bigger army/navy type stores with no luck.
|>
|> Anyone out there know of a place that does carry such an item as
|> well
|> as does mail order? Any help would be appreciated.
|>
Currently there are no "Velcro" jump boots as issue in
the military, there are two other kinds. One is made my
Cochran and sell for $85.00 in either the Clothing sales
store or US Cavalry (Price match at the Cav store) the
second co is also sold but somewhat cheaper in design.
Actually they don't care what you wear as long is they
are 10 eyelets high.
There is another boot called a "Tankers boot" this has
similar construction to a wellington boot except for the
boot shape and has straps that wrap around for tightness.
Nice boots
--
##########################################################
There are only two types of ships in the NAVY; SUBMARINES
and TARGETS !!!
#1/XS1100LH DoD #956 #2 Next raise
Richard Pierson E06584 vnet: [908] 699-6063
Internet: fist@iscp.bellcore.com,|| UUNET:uunet!bcr!fist
#include <std.disclaimer> My opinions are my own!!!
I Don't shop in malls, I BUY my jeans, jackets and ammo
in the same store.
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4521 | From: st902415@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Adam Levin)
Subject: Re: Best Sportwriters...
Reply-To: st902415@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
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In article <C5K7nK.7tv@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, rkoffler@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Bighelmet) writes:
>csc2imd@cabell.vcu.edu (Ian M. Derby) writes:
>
>
>>Since someone brought up sports radio, howabout sportswriting???
>
>I happen to be a big fan of Jayson Stark. He is a baseball writer for the
>Philadelphia Inquirer. Every tuesday he writes a "Week in Review" column.
>He writes about unusual situations that occured during the week. Unusual
>stats. He has a section called "Kinerisms of the Week" which are stupid
>lines by Mets brodcaster Ralph Kiner. Every year he has the LGTGAH contest.
>That stands for "Last guy to get a hit." He also writes for Baseball
>America. That column is sort of a highlights of "Week in Review." If you
>can, check his column out sometime. He might make you laugh.
Might? You'd have to have no sense of humor at all not to! My favorite
stuff are the Zero Heros, players who haven't hit homers in a long time,
the LGTGAH (who is that named after, I can't remember), and the box score
line of the week. Incidentally, I just found out that the column has been
moved to Sundays. I get my Dad to send it to me up here in Boston every
week. Great stuff!
Adam "A Phaithful Phillies Phan" Levin
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4522 | From: cocoa@netcom.com
Subject: Re: Jewish history question
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
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In article <1993Apr10.195513.17991@csi.uottawa.ca> misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) writes:
>In article <cocoaC5797E.43y@netcom.com>, cocoa@netcom.com (little 'e') writes:
>
[deleted]
>> Here tis. Someone just told me that the Old Testament books were translated
>> into Greek a long time ago
>
> Yes, that's a famous version called The Septuagint. It was a translation
>made by Greek Jews.
>
>> and that the originals were destroyed in a fire soon afterward.
>
> I don't know what you're referring to here. When the Jersusalem Temple was
>destroyed, some manuscripts may have been lost, but I think our extant Hebrew
>manuscripts are as good as our Greek ones. I don't know about any "originals".
The person who was telling me about the Septuagint version said that the Greeks
had a wonderful library in Alexandria that was full of manuscripts/scrolls
and that it was burned soon after the Septuagint version was translated
(perhaps to conceal some changes in the different versions, or perhaps just
as part of the typical burning of valuable things that occurs during changes
in power groups, he/I dunno).
>> So, I was just wondering, since I imagine some Jewish people somewhere must
>> have had copies of the earlier Hebrew versions, is the Hebrew version of the
>> Old Testament very different from the Greek derived version?
> No. There are a few famous discrepancies (Isaiah's prophecy about a "young
>woman" was changed into a "virgin", which was how the New Testament writers
>read it), but not many.
Well, perhaps this is the answer then.
[deleted]
> If you go to a Jewish bookstore, you'll get a Bible translated by Jews, so
>there will be some differences in interpretation, but the text they're
>translating *from* is basically the same.
>
> If you want to read "the original", you can buy an Interlinear Bible. That
>contains the Hebrew Old Testament and the Greek New Testament, with an English
>translation written underneath each word.
>
> If you want a Bible with a possibly-more-original basic text, you can try
>to find a Samaritan bible. (Good luck! I've never seen one.) The Samaritans
>(no, not the Good Samaritans) have their own version of the 5 Books of Moses.
>They claim the Jewish bible was altered by Ezra.
Thanks for the tips. Now I just have to find someone to teach me Samaritan :)
Just me,
little 'e'
(so, is a "good Samaritan hard to find?" or "is a hard... " Oh, finish this
yourself.)
--
* * * Chocolatier at Arms, and Castle Wetware Liason * * *
* * * e-mail: cocoa@netcom.com - voicemail: 415-337-4940 * * *
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4523 | From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
In-Reply-To: louie@sayshell.umd.edu's message of 17 Apr 1993 13:10:00 GMT
Reply-To: pmetzger@lehman.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers
<1qovj8$74m@ni.umd.edu>
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In article <1qovj8$74m@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) writes:
In article <tcmayC5M2xv.JEx@netcom.com> tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) writes:
>But is it any worse than the current unsecure system? It becomes much
>worse, of course, if the government then uses this "Clinton Clipper"
>to argue for restrictions on unapproved encryption. (This is the main
>concern of most of us, I think. The camel's nose in the tent, etc.)
Excuse me? This has *already* happened. There's a couple of humps in
the tent already. Ask the folks at Qualcomm what became of the
non-trivial encryption scheme they proposed for use in their CDMA
digitial cellular phone standard? There *already* are restrictions in
place.
You have it slightly wrong. They dumped the encryption system because
they could not export it -- not because they could not produce it for
U.S. use. There are no legal restraints on citizen use of strong
cryptography -- yet.
--
Perry Metzger pmetzger@shearson.com
--
Laissez faire, laissez passer. Le monde va de lui meme.
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4524 | From: willis@oracle.SCG.HAC.COM (Stan Willis)
Subject: Series 1, game 1; Kings 6 @ Flames 3
Reply-To: willis@empire.dnet.hac.com (Stan Willis)
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1992-93 Los Angeles Kings notes and game reports.
-------------------------------------------------
Kings 6 @ Calgary Flames 3 - 04/18/93
The third place Kings opened the 1993 Stanley Cup Playoffs in Calgary, against
the second place Flames and came out with an impressive 6-3 victory in front of
a non-sellout crowd of 18,605 at the Saddledome in Calgary.
Symthe Division playoff hockey this was. Both teams seemed a bit tense in the
opening period though the Kings scored off the opening face-off. The Kings got
into the flow of the game much earlier than the Flames as they played out-
standing team defense. It took the Flames 9:45 of the first period to record
their first shot on goal. The Kings, ranked 16th of the 16 playoff teams on
penalty killing, shut down the Flames. The Flames went 0-8 on the power play
and could record only 8 shot on goal in those 8 opportunities. The Kings had
their problems on the power play, yet they did manager to score 2 goals in 10
tries.
The Kings forwards back-checked while the defense stood the Flames up at the
blue line, allowing the Kings to take took the home ice advantage away from the
Flames. Rob Blake missed the game due to the lower back contusion but is ex-
pected to be in the lineup on Wednesday. Wayne Gretzky suffered a charlie horse
in his right leg. He took a few shifts in the second period before retiring to
the dressing room for the rest of the game. Interviewed on the radio this
morning, he stated that he was fine and would be in the lineup on Wednesday.
1st period:
1-0. The Kings got things started right off the opening face-off. Gretzky won
the draw with the puck going to Sydor. He crossed center ice and slapped the
puck into the Flames zone and behind the net. The puck carried around to the
far side where Robitaille wacked at it and the rebound bounced to Sandstrom. He
put the puck behind the Flames net where Gretzky picked it up. Gretzky set up
in 'his office', moved to the near side and passed into the near circle where
Sydor had moved in. Sydor, who got the puck between the face-off dot and the
hash mark, shot off the pass, beating Vernon low and between the legs.
Millen and Fleury went off at 4:57. Skrudland went off at 12:25 but the Kings
failed to convert. Carson went off at 14:53 and the Flames failed to convert.
Dahlquist went off at 18:34 and Dahl went off at 19:30, giving the Kings a 30
second 5on3 which they failed to convert. The Kings recorded 2 goal posts in
the period.
2nd period:
The Kings opened with a 5on3 carried over from the 1st period which they failed
to convert on. With 6 seconds left in the 5on4, Vernon put a bouncing puck into
the stands and received a delay of game.
1-1. Calgary evened the score on the ensuing Kings power play. Kurri, with the
puck in the neutral zone, tried to put the puck into the Flames zone but it hit
the stick of Fleury and bounced to Suter at the Flames blue line. Suter skated
down the near wing and into the Kings zone. He faked a shot at the circle and
skated around Kurri. As he cut thorugh the crease, he got Hrudey to go with him
and he put the puck behind Hrudey, on his stick side for a short hander.
2-1. The Kings reclaimed the lead 25 seconds later on the same power play.
Shuchuk, in the far circle passed to Sydor at the top of the slot and headed
for the net. Sydors shot hit Shuchuk in the back and dropped into the low slot
where 2 Kings (Shuchuk and Granato) were being checked by 3 Flames. Carson
came from the far corner, picked up the loose puck and snapped a wrist shot
between the legs of Vernon from 5 feet above the crease.
3-1. The Kings widened their lead just 24 seconds later. Rychel was checked off
the puck at the Flames blue line. Taylor picked up the puck and sent a pass
cross the slot to Huddy. Huddy shot off the pass, from the near face-off dot,
beating a diving Vernon on the glove side.
4-1. 2:59 later, the Kings had a 3 goal lead. McSorley took a shot form the
near point that hit a Flame and deflected towards the boards. Marty got his
own rebound, skated to the bottom of the circle and sent a pass into the low
slot that hit Dahlquist on the leg and deflected past the stick of Vernon.
Skrudland went off at 10:53 but the Kings could not convert. Sydor went off at
12:35 and Watters went off at 14:40, giving the Flames a 5 second 5-3 but they
failed to convert. McSorley went off at 17:19 and the Flames had 3 consecutive
power plays but the Flames killed it themselves when Suter went off for high
sticking at 17:31. Sandstrom went off at 18:03 to close out the period. The
Kings hit 3 goal post in the period.
3rd period:
The Kings used the phrase "Initiate, not retaliate" and it was very evident here
in the 3rd period as the Kings continued to pound the body and the Flames
continued to take bad penalties to take themselves out of the game.
5-1. The Kings extended their lead to 4 goals at the 1:06 mark. The Kings shot
the puck into the near corner of the Flames zone. Vernon went behind the net to
cut off the puck but he could not control it. Donnelly, who was behind him,
wacked at the puck, sending it into the low slot. As Vernon slid back in to the
crease, Granato got a shot that hit a Flame and bounced to the left of the net
where Millen fired the rebound behind Vernon.
Sydor went off at 1:24; Nieuwendyk went off at 3:22 as the teams skated 4 on 4.
5-2. Otto, skating down the far side, stepped around McSorley, cut to the net
and passed to Dahlquist in the low slot. Dahlquist cut through the top of the
crease and put the puck in under a diving Hrudey.
Carson and Rychel came in on a 2-1. When Carson passed across to Rychel, Fleury
tripped Rychel with no call. The puck got shoveled into the far corner where
Fleury knocked Rychel down and checked him from behind into the boards, drawing
a 5-minute major and a game misconduct at the 6:08 mark. Unfortunately, the
Kings squandered the 5 minute power play when Granato (at 6:44) and Watters (at
8:19) took penalties.
5-3. The Flames closed to within 2 at the 8:47 mark. MacInnis, at the near
point, passed to Yawney at the far point. He took a few strides towards the
net, wound up and drove a shot off the near post and in over the glove of
Hrudey. The play started on another faceoff that the Kings lost. Timeout - LA.
6-3. MacInnis took a penalty at 9:56 and the Kings converted on the power play
to seal the victory. Sandstrom, skating down the far wing in the Flames zone
cut towards the back of the net. Just as he crossed the goal line, he passed
the puck into the low slot, on the far side, to Carson who shot off the pass,
beating Vernon on the ice, stick side.
At the 16:17 mark, Skrudland went off for slashing and Stern went crazy as he
went after Shuchuk. Stern wound up with a double minor for roughing, a single
minor for cross checking and a 10 minute misconduct, and he took the Flames
right out of the game.
On the plus side: The Kings, for the most part, played very disciplined hockey
as they let Calgary retaliate. The Kings played good team defense and excellent
penalty killing.
On the minus side: The Kings lost almost every face-off. This must improve or
the Flames will surely get that power play back on track.
Notes:
------
The Kings recalled Guy Leveque, Brandy Semchuk and Jim Thomson from Phoenix.
Wayne Gretzkys 1st period assist was his 307th career playoff point.
The Kings entered the game 24th in the league in shots per game against, giving
the opposing team an average of 34.4 shots per game.
Flames goaltender Mike Vernon entered the game with a 3-9-1 record in afternoon
games. The Flames entered the game with a 34% success rate on the power play
over their last 9 games.
The teams were 3-3-1 against each other in the regular season.
Playoffs:
Campbell Conference:
Smythe Division:
LA 6 @ CAL 3 LA leads 1-0
WIN @ VAN
Norris Division:
STL 4 @ CHI 3 STL leads 1-0
TOR @ DET
Wales Conference:
Adams Division:
BUF 5 @ BOS 4 (OT) BUF leads 1-0
MON 2 @ QUE 3 (OT) QUE leads 1-0
Patrick Division:
NJ 3 @ PIT 6 PIT leads 1-0
NYI 1 @ WAS 3 WAS leads 1-0
Records:
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vs Smythe Norris Patrck Adams Overall
================================================
Home: 0- 0-0 0-0-0 0-0-0 0-0-0 0- 0-0
Road: 1- 0-0 0-0-0 0-0-0 0-0-0 1- 0-0
==============================================================
Total: 1- 0-0 0-0-0 0-0-0 0-0-0 1- 0-0
Box Score:
=========================
Calgary 0 1 2 - 3
Los Angeles 1 3 2 - 6
=========================
1st period:
LA Sydor 1 (Gretzky, Sandstrom), 0:16
LA Millen - high sticking, 4:57
CAL Fleury - high sticking, 4:57
CAL Skrudland - interference, 12:25
LA Carson - tripping 14:53
CAL Dahlquist - holding stick, 18:34
CAL Dahl - roughing 19:30
2nd period:
CAL Verson - delay of game (served by Ashton), 1:34
CAL Suter 1 (Fleury), 2:48 (sh)
LA Carson 1 (Shuchuk, Sydor), 3:13 (pp)
LA Huddy 1 (Taylor, Rychel), 3:37
LA McSorley 1 (unassisted), 6:36
CAL Skrudland - elbowing, 10:53
LA Sydor - tripping, 12:35
LA Watters- hooking, 14:40
LA McSorley - holding, 17:19
CAL Suter - high sticking, 17:31
LA Sandstrom - hooking, 18:03
3rd period:
LA Millen 1 (Granato, Donnelly), 1:06
LA Sydor - hooking, 1:24
CAL Nieuwendyk - tripping, 3:22
CAL Dahlquist 1 (Otto), 4:23
CAL Fleury - major (boarding), game misconduct, 6:08
LA Granato - tripping, 6:44
LA Watters - interference, 8:19
CAL Yawney 1 (MacInnis, Reichel), 8:47
CAL MacInnis - roughing, 9:56
LA Carson 2 (Sandstrom, Robitaille), 10:32 (pp)
LA Hardy - holding, 11:38
CAL Skrudland - slashing, 16:17
CAL Stern - double roughing, cross-checking, 10 min. misconduct, 16:17
Overtime: none
Shots:
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Los Angeles 8 9 14 - 31
Calgary 5 8 11 - 24
Power play conversions:
-----------------------
For: 2 of 10; for the year: 2 of 10, 20.00%
Against: 0 of 8; for the year: 8 of 8, 100.00%
Goalies:
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Los Angeles - Hrudey (1-0-0)
Calgary - Vernon (0-1-0)
Attendance: 18,605
Scratches:
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Rob Blake - back contusion
Guy Leveque - numbers
Lonnie Loach - numbers
Marc Potvin - numbers
Brandy Semchuk - numbers
Robb Stauber - numbers
Brent Thompson - numbers
Jim Thomson - numbers
Lines - Forwards:
----------------
*Robitaille - Gretzky - Sandstrom
Donnelly - Millen - Kurri
Rychel - Conacher - Taylor
Granato - Carson - Shuchuk
Lines - Defense:
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*Huddy - Sydor
Watters - Zhitnik
Hardy - McSorley
* denotes starting lineup
Next game:
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4525 | From: dgj2y@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (David Glen Jacobowitz)
Subject: Dumb Question: Function Generator
Originator: dgj2y@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 35
I have a new scope and I thought I'd save a few bucks by
buying one with a function generator built in. After having it awhile
I noticed two things about the function generator. For one, there
seems to be a bias even when the 'pull-offset' is pushed in. That is,
I have to pull that know and adjust it to get a signal sans some
random 50mV bias.
The other _really_ annoying thing is that the damn output
won't go below about 1V p-p. I am a student ( you may have guessed
from my previous posts ), and I often have to measure the input
impedances of various circuits I build.Many of the circuits have
maximum input signals of way less than 500mV amplitude and most have
input impedances in the 10's of Kohm range. The thing is, in order to
use my function generator I have to divide the voltage to some thing
reasonable. Then, of course, to measurethe input impedance of my
circuit I am going to have to throw in another resistor in series.
With the 50ohm output of the generator I could just ignore it, but now
with this little divider there I have to figure that in. It's kind of
a pain in the ass.
Is there any way I could make myself a little box that could
solve this little problem. The box would tkae the function generator
input, lower the voltage and give an output impedance that is some
low, unchanging number. I would want to lower the voltage by a factor
of one hundred or so. I could just build a little buffer amp, but I'd
like to have this box not be active.
Any quick ideas. The scope's not broken. For other reasons I
had sent it to the shop to get repaired and they replaced it. The
function generator was the same way on that one, too.
please help as I am feeling very stupid
today,
dave
dgj2y@virginia.edu
|
4526 | X-Mailer: TMail version 1.15R
From: "D. C. Sessions" <dcs@witsend.tnet.com>
Organization: Nobody but me -- really
Subject: Rules of Engagement (was: 18 Israelis murdered in March
Distribution: world
Lines: 77
In <1993Apr8.212737.19245@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>, hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU wrote:
#
# In article <1993Apr8.143232@frej.teknikum.uu.se>, flax@frej.teknikum.uu.se (Jonas Flygare) writes:
# |> In article <1993Apr6.150829.6425@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>, hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes:
# |> |> In article <FLAX.93Apr6125933@frej.teknikum.uu.se>, flax@frej.teknikum.uu.se (Jonas Flygare) writes:
# |>
# |> |> |> First, my above statement doesnot say that "the existence of israeli citizens
# |> |> |> in the WB revoke their right of life" but it says "the israeli occupation
# |> |> |> of the WB revoke the right of life for some/most its citizens - basically
# |> |> |> revokes the right of for its military men". Clearly, occupation is an
# |> |> |> undeclared war; during war, attacks against military targets are fully legitimate.
# |>
# |> I'd like you to tell me, in your own words who the military are, wrt Israel then.
# |> In uniform, or not? On duty, or off-duty? Soldier to be, or not?
# |> (That is, since it's compulsory one might regard any Israeli as a
# |> legit target using that definition)
#
# in uniform or not ? doesnot make a difference if the person is in army.
# On duty, or off-duty? doesnot matter if the army man was on duty or on a
# vacation week.
# Soldier to be, or not? sure i meant only military men.
Just trying to get this clear, so please bear with me. As far as
I can tell, you're proposing the following rules of engagement
between Israel and the Palestinean resistance. Please feel
revise this preliminary draft as necessary:
1) Israeli military personnel are fair game at any time, in uniform
or out, on duty or off. In practice, since any male or female
Israeli of military age (18-?) may be off-duty military, all but
young children are acceptable targets. Since the existence of
Israel constitutes indication of hostile intent, no further
provocation is required.
2) To avoid inpermissable violations of the rights of non-combatant
Palestineans, Israeli forces must not engage Palestineans
without positive identification as military personnel, clear
indication of aggressive intent, and a clear field of fire.
a) Positive identification may be assured by either checking for
Palestinean military uniform, by posession of exclusively
military armament (ie, T78 MBTs or MiG-29 aircraft), or
self-identification (either verbal or documentary). Note
that dual-use military/civilian weaponry such as hand grenades,
AK-47 rifles, and RPG launchers do not constitute positive
military identification and require closer inspection such
as document checks.
b) Aggressive intent (as distinct from merely 'hostile' intent,
which is the normal condition) may be assured by not less
than three rounds of incoming fire separated by intervals
of not less than ten seconds between rounds. Note that a
single burst of automatic-weapon fire counds as one round,
as does a volley of rocket fire from more than one source.
As noted above, dual-use weaponry may NOT be assumed to
originate from military personnel, and thus do not justify
armed response.
c) A clear field of fire can be guaranteed by making a positive
military identification of all personnel in the target area of
the weapons to be used. Note that aggressive intent need not
be proven for all possible targets. Thus, if IAF aircraft
are attacked by a SAM crew it is not necessary to check the
papers of each crew member so long as none are obviously
civilians (as indicated, for instance, by the posession of
uniquely civilian weaponry such as stones, axes, and Molotov
coctails.) Since it is often difficult for IAF elements to
land and make the necessary checks, ground forces should
first screen prospective strike areas before AGM fire.
For ACM purposes, a cockpit-to-cockpit pass within 5 meters
is usually sufficient for this purpose, but may be repeated
if necessary.
--- D. C. Sessions Speaking for myself ---
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4527 | From: I.A.Inman@newcastle.ac.uk (I.A. Inman)
Subject: Re: Honors Degrees: Do they mean anything?
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
Lines: 37
Nntp-Posting-Host: tuda
tkld@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Kevin Davidson) writes:
>> In my opinion, a programming degree is still worth having.
> Yes, but a CS degree is *not* a programming degree. Does anybody know of
>a computing course where *programming* is taught ? Computer Science is
>a branch of maths (or the course I did was).
> I've also done a Software Engineering course - much more practical and likely
>to be the sort of thing an employer really wants, rather than what they think
>they want, but also did not teach programming. The ability to program was
>an entry requirement.
Try the 'M.Sc. Computing Science' course at the REAL Newcastle University.
It's a conversion course, but at least they teach REAL programming.
In the space of 9 months we were taught PASCAL, Simula, Prolog, Miranda.
Also, some basic low level stuff (68000) was covered as well.
They also did concurrent programming and operating systems, some software
engineering, plus quite a few optional units, including database theory,
and some stuff about comms.
The PASCAL is to be replaced by C/C++ I think next year - I learn't this (and
X Windows programming as well)
anyway via a good selection of project over the final three months - depending
on your tastes, the selection of skills learn't can be quite wide reaching.
The one critiscism I would level at the course, which I would have thought
invaluable, is the lack of an option to do the project period in industry -
this would probably need a slightly longer project period (say six months), but
would enhance the prestige and usefulness of an already excellent and thorough
course.
Yes, I know this sounds like a plug for the course, why not!
Mackem Ian.
|
4528 | From: Bill.Kayser@delft.SGp.slb.COM (Bill Kayser)
Subject: Re: TeleUse, UIM/X, and C++
Article-I.D.: parsival.199304060629.AA00339
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 25
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
Cc: Bill.Kayser@delft.sgp.slb.com
>
> Does anyone have any good ideas on how to integrate C++ code elegantly
> with TeleUse, UIM/X / Interface Architect generated code?
>
> Source would be great, but any suggestions are welcome.
It's my understanding that the next release of UIM/X, due out
last February :-) has full support for C++.
I use XDesigner which does not have the interpreter or UI meta languages
of these other tools but does fully support C++ code generation,
reusable templates via C++ classes which are generated, a variety of
other handy features for using C++ and layout functions in different
ways, and generates Motif 1.2 code (including drag 'n drop,
internationalization, etc.). Fits in quite nicely with Doug Young's
paradigm for C++/Motif.
Available in the US from VI Corp, in Europe from Imperial Software,
London (see FAQ for details).
Bill
________________________________________________________________________
Schlumberger Geco Prakla
kayser@delft.sgp.slb.com
|
4529 | From: gballent@hudson.UVic.CA (Greg Ballentine)
Subject: Re: plus minus stat
Nntp-Posting-Host: hudson.uvic.ca
Reply-To: gballent@hudson.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Lines: 56
In article 6143@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca, maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
>In <1993Apr14.201910.13370@sol.UVic.CA> gballent@vancouver.UVic.CA (Greg Ballentine) writes:
>>1. You have completely missed the point with the Selke trophy. It goes
>>to the best defensive forward. This is the forward who forgoes points
>>to help his team out defensively. It is an unsung hero of sorts. Yes,
>>Lemieux and Gilmour are good defensive players, but they play a more
>>offensively oriented style than a true defensive forward. This year,
>
>You mean guys that check but can't score? The guys who can both check
>and score shouldn't be candidates? Is that right?
The Selke candidate forwards main purpose on a shift is to prevent goals
from being scored- not to score them. When Lemieux or Gilmour play their
number one purpose is to score- defence is secondary- especially considering
the line that plays against them is probably a defensive one. That is
why they are not Selke candidates.
>>2. When Tarasov called Bob Gainey the best player in the world, it was
>>assumed that he meaned the best _technical_ player- the one who knew
>>every intricacy about playing hockey and never made a technical error.
>
>And who was it that made this assumption? All of your friends maybe?
>Sorry Greg, but 2 people aren't enough...you can "assume" all that you
>want to, but if you think Tarasov was serious then you are an idiot.
Someone posted something about this assumption being lost in translation
(it was a few months ago). Whoever this was please repost it.
>>I agree with this assessment. Bob Gainey may have been the best technical
>>player ever.
>
>Right Greg. Did you see this in the Sun or something? What did you think
>of Claude Provost? Gainey was nothing more than a journeyman player who's
>outstanding abilities were entirely political. He might have had a col-
>lection of defensive skills but he had absolutely no offensive skills at
>all. None. But perhaps you think that the abilities to pass the puck, shoot
>the puck and deke a goalie or defenseman are not technical skills?
Gainey is the best defensive forward ever. I stand by that assessment.
He was a very good player who belongs in the hall of fame. Did you
ever watch him play? He never made a technical error.
<Babbling deleted>
>Gee Greg, the pundits were calling Gilmour the best two-way player in the
>league way back when he was with St. Louis. I would have expected you to
>have picked up on that.
Who are these pundits?? Gilmour was good with St Louis- but he was not the
best two-way player in the game when he was with them. You have overhyped
Gilmour on this net for months. He is a very good forward- but hardly the
best in the NHL.
Gregmeister
|
4530 | From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Re: Jemison on Star Trek
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA
Lines: 14
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
In article <1993Apr22.214735.22733@Princeton.EDU> phoenix.Princeton.EDU!carlosn (Carlos G. Niederstrasser) writes:
>A transporter operator!?!? That better be one important transport. Usually
>it is a nameless ensign who does the job. For such a guest appearance I would
>have expected a more visible/meaningful role.
Christian Slater, only gota cameo on ST6,
and besides.
Maybe she can't act:-)
pat
|
4531 | From: dannyb@panix.com (Daniel Burstein)
Subject: japanese moon landing?
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Lines: 17
Afraid I can't give any more info on this.. and hoping someone in greter
NETLAND has some details.
A short story in the newspaper a few days ago made some sort of mention
about how the Japanese, using what sounded like a gravity assist, had just
managed to crash (or crash-land) a package on the moon.
the article was very vague and unclear. and, to make matters worse, I
didn't clip it.
does this jog anyone's memory?
thanks
dannyb@panix.com
|
4532 | From: craig@toontown.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Craig S. Williamson)
Subject: Video in/out
Reply-To: craig@toontown.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Craig S. Williamson)
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia, SC
Lines: 14
I'm getting ready to buy a multimedia workstation and would like a little
advice. I need a graphics card that will do video in and out under windows.
I was originally thinking of a Targa+ but that doesn't work under Windows.
What cards should I be looking into?
Thanks,
Craig
--
"To forgive is divine, to be
-Craig Williamson an airhead is human."
Craig.Williamson@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM -Balki Bartokomas
craig@toontown.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (home) Perfect Strangers
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4533 | From: speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer)
Subject: Re: Boom! Dog attack!
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Lines: 17
NNTP-Posting-Host: bhm116e-spc.engr.latech.edu
In article <csundh30.734975106@ursa> csundh30@ursa.calvin.edu (Charles Sundheim) writes:
<tale of bike-eating-devil-dog deleted>
>Moral: I'm not really sure, but more and more I believe that bikers ought
> to be allowed to carry handguns.
Come to Louisiana where it is LEGAL to carry concealed weapons on a bike!
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4534 | From: acifuent@isluga.puc.cl (Alejandro Cifuentes)
Subject: Q: Change icons forever???
Nntp-Posting-Host: isluga.puc.cl
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Lines: 8
Hi!
Anyone knows how can i change an icon forever and ever??????
I mean, not only in the program manager...
Thanks in advance!
Alejandro Cifuentes H.
acifuent@isluga.puc.cl
|
4535 | From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Orion drive in vacuum -- how?
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
Lines: 17
In article <1quh78INNf45@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> pjs@euclid.jpl.nasa.gov writes:
>> >The National Air & Space Museum has both the prototype and the film.
>> >When I was there, some years ago, they had the prototype on display...
>> Great! I'll visit the National Air and Space Museum at the end of the
>> month...
>
>Sorry to put a damper on your plans, but I was there three weeks ago and
>it wasn't there. Not that I would have known to look for it, of course,
>but I combed the space exhibits pretty thoroughly and something like that
>would have caught my attention instantly.
It wasn't especially prominent, as I recall. However, quite possibly it's
no longer on display; NASM, like most museums, has much more stuff than it
can display at once, and does rotate the displays occasionally.
--
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- Kipling | henry@zoo.toronto.edu utzoo!henry
|
4536 | From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: Political Atheists?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 26
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine) writes:
>>If I kill this person [an innocent person convicted of murder],
>>then a murder would be committed, but I would not be the murderer. At least,
>>I wouldn't "reasonably" be considered a murderer, with "reasonable" being
>>introduced as a fudge factor necessary to account for the inability to be
>>totally objective due to a lack of absolutely true information.
>If society collective decides to carry the burden of executing
>it's citizens, then it also carries the blame for their innocent
>blood. Each and every voter who casts a ballot in favor of
>capital punishment is in part guilty of the murder of each and
>every innocent victim of the system.
Why are only those people in favor of the system to blame. If society
accepts such a system, then each member of society is to blame when
an innocent person gets executed. Those that are not in favor should
work to convince others.
And, most members of our society have accepted the blame--they've considered
the risk to be acceptable. Similarly, every person who drives must accept
the blame for fatal traffic accidents. This is something that is surely
going to happen when so many people are driving. It is all a question of
what risk is acceptable. It is much more likely that an innocent person
will be killed driving than it is that one will be executed.
keith
|
4537 | From: schaefer@sal-sun121.usc.edu (Peter Schaefer)
Subject: Re: Why not give $1 billion to first year-long moon residents?
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Lines: 29
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun121.usc.edu
In article <1993Apr19.130503.1@aurora.alaska.edu>, nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu writes:
|> In article <6ZV82B2w165w@theporch.raider.net>, gene@theporch.raider.net (Gene Wright) writes:
|> > With the continuin talk about the "End of the Space Age" and complaints
|> > by government over the large cost, why not try something I read about
|> > that might just work.
|> >
|> > Announce that a reward of $1 billion would go to the first corporation
|> > who successfully keeps at least 1 person alive on the moon for a year.
|> > Then you'd see some of the inexpensive but not popular technologies begin
|> > to be developed. THere'd be a different kind of space race then!
|> >
|> > --
|> > gene@theporch.raider.net (Gene Wright)
|> > theporch.raider.net 615/297-7951 The MacInteresteds of Nashville
|> ====
|> If that were true, I'd go for it.. I have a few friends who we could pool our
|> resources and do it.. Maybe make it a prize kind of liek the "Solar Car Race"
|> in Australia..
|> Anybody game for a contest!
|>
|> ==
|> Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
Oh gee, a billion dollars! That'd be just about enough to cover the cost of the
feasability study! Happy, Happy, JOY! JOY!
Peter F. Schaefer
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4538 | From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Subject: Re: Why not concentrate on child molesters?
Article-I.D.: optilink.15210
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA
Lines: 29
In article <1993Apr3.165155.1@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz>, quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# # I thought I was clear. Because homosexuals support laws to force
# # employment of homosexuals against the will of some employers, they
# # are attempting to interfere with private acts between mutually consenting
# # adults.
#
# Ok, I'll leave others to discuss your use of statistics, but I think I'm
# able to discuss liberterian ideas.
# The ideas are good. They seek to maximise individual rights by keeping
# governments out of transactions between consenting adults. If an employer wants
# to discriminate against a group, she/he should be allowed to to maximise their
# freedom. The discriminatees can go elsewhere.
# Unfortunately, it doesn't relate to maximising total individual rights
# within a community. If an employer or shopkeeper or whatever can discriminate
# in this way, then the freedom of the discriminatee goes down. Because people do
# not live in perfect economic conditions, with perfect mobility, unlimited
# numbers of potential employers of their skills, unlimited places to buy goods,
# the liberterian argument leads to a *decrease* in the amount of liberty in the
# community.
You mean, if a large part of the population supports discrimination
against homosexuals, they will be injured. But if a large part of the
population supports such discrimination, how did that law get passed?
# Tony Quirke, Wellington, New Zealand. Quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
--
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Relations between people to be by mutual consent, or not at all.
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4539 | From: carter@ecf.toronto.edu (CARTER EDWARD A)
Subject: Re: DoD Oficial (tm) Newbie Bike of Choice
Article-I.D.: ecf.C51nqM.5qq
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Lines: 20
In article <1pplsc$38q@news.ysu.edu> ak296@yfn.ysu.edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>I propose that the Official DoD Newbie Bike of Choice (tm) be the ZX-11 D.
=8^/ Nothing like giving newbies a land rocket to practice on.
>It offers
>enough power so that a novice rider can safely accelerate out of harms way
>in situations where a more experienced rider would use complex avoidance
>manouvers.
Yup. Accelerate right into the back of an 18-wheel truck.
Um. How's the easiest way to get newbies of the road? :)
Regards, Ted.
---
University of Toronto Computer Engineering
PowerUsersGroupChairman
'89 FZR600: I'm taking a ride with my best friend. DoD#:886699
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4540 | From: robert.desonia@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Robert Desonia)
Subject: Re: PC Parallel I/O
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000 BBS, W-NET HQ, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Reply-To: robert.desonia@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Robert Desonia)
Lines: 24
R >>>JD> ALL PC parallel ports that are compatable with the IBM standard,
R >>>JD> including the original IBM adaptor, are bi-directional.
NOT ALL PARALLEL PORTS ARE BI-DIRECTIONAL WITHOUT MODIFICATION.
My experience with the standard old zenith parallel port in their
original 286s proves that. They had the input direction disactiviated by
tieing them R/W select line of the circuit to Vcc. To make it bi ( which
I did ) I had to modify it by scraping off the trace and solder a jump to
the proper location. I thought that this was just lazy on the part of
Zenith ( they were not Zenith-Bull Group at that time).
-rdd
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4541 | From: mjr4u@Virginia.EDU ("Matthew J. Rush")
Subject: Re: Sad day for hockey
Article-I.D.: Virginia.1993Apr6.172016.212
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 50
dvb@ick writes:
>
> 1. Foul (Any illegal contact with the other player or his stick with your
> body or stick). If you get 5 you are out for the game.
I've never seen a game where one player has committed 5
penalties. Something like this would require more attention by
the referee.
>
> 2. Unsportsmanlike contact. (An intentional foul). This inlcludes all the
> current flavours of roughing, fighting and boarding. If you get two you
> are thrown out of the game, and fined.
>
> 3. Technical foul. Bad mouthing the ref, by player or coach. Penalty shot
> is awarded. Two and you are thrown out of the game.
>
> Besides the penalty shot for one technical, if the team gets 5 penalties
> in a period, the opposing team gets a penalty shot for every additional one,
> until the end of the period. The victim gets two shots if he/she was in
> the act of shooting when the foul ocured.
>
> This works well for several reasons. First, penalty shots are the most
> exciting thing in hockey, right? So, it follows that the more the better.
> Next, when the player is setting up for a penalty shot, the network can
> take a commercial. Finally, with only three penalties, the network
> announcers (Don Meredith, Dick Vitale, John Madden, Pat Summerall, and
> Marv Levy, among others) will be able to tell the viewers what happened before
> the PA announcer says it.
>
But you're creating a scoring opportunity where there might not
have been one before. I can see the relationship between free
throws awarded after a certain number of fouls, but it's
obviously easier to score in basketball, there are more
opportunities. If a basketball team scores 100 points, that's
at least fifty chances made. The average number of shots taken
by each team in a hockey game (and this is a total guess) is
probably around 40, and a team is lucky to capitalize on maybe
5 of them. You have some good ideas concerning the other
penalties, but I think that a player should be awarded a
penalty shot only when they had a chance to score and was
interfered with.
Also, later in the post, you talked about how boring the NBA
game you attended was, that play was stopped too often.
Wouldn't your penalty shot rule take up more time during a
hockey game?
Matt att UVA
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4542 | From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Subject: Re: Why does Apple give us a confusing message?
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Lines: 22
NNTP-Posting-Host: swiss.ucs.ubc.ca
In <C5nGII.BGx@news2.cis.umn.edu> bunt0003@student.tc.umn.edu (Monthian
Buntan-1) writes:
>Does anyone know why Apple has an ambiguous message for C650 regarding
>fpu? In all Mac price lists I've seen, every C650 as the message "fpu:
>optional". I know from what we've discussed in this newsgroup that all
>C650 have the fpu built in except the 4/80 configuration. Why would they
>be so unclear about this issue in their price list?
Perhaps the reason is simple--maybe the marketing people who put together
the brochures and price lists weren't clear on the FPU issue.
Afterall, Apple's literature is not always 100% correct. A funny one I
noticed recently is that some of the brochures on the Macs with CD
capability refer to the "auto inkjet" feature. This should have read "auto
inject" feature (as it does on some other correct brochures I've seen from
Apple). Since it was correct on some older brochures, I can only guess
that someone edited the copy, saw "inject" and thought it was a typo and
changed it to the more familiar word "inkjet".
Hmmm, what would that be? A printer built into the CD player? A way of
*writing* information to a CD? :-) :-)
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4543 | From: msc_wdqn@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Daniel Q Naiman)
Subject: Geometry package
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Lines: 11
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
I am looking for a package which takes as inputs a set
of geometric objects defined by unions of convex polytopes
specified in some manner, say by inequalities and equalities,
and determines in some reasonable form things like
intersections, unions, etc. etc..
Does anyone know where I can find such a thing?
Dan Naiman
Department of Mathematical Sciences
Johns Hopkins University
|
4544 | From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: Young Catchers
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Lines: 38
In article <7975@blue.cis.pitt.edu> genetic+@pitt.edu (David M. Tate) writes:
>As for rushing... If there really is a qualitative difference between the
>minors and the majors that requires a period of adjustment (and I don't
>believe there is), then wouldn't you rather waste Lopez's 22-year old good
>season than his 23-year old very good season or his 24-year-old excellent
>season? The sooner you get him acclimated, the more of his prime you get to
>use.
Can anybody name a player who was 'rushed' to the majors (let's, for
argument's sake, define "rushed" as brought up to the majors for more than
a cup of coffee prior at age 22 or younger, and performing below
expectations), whose career was damaged by this rushing? I'm serious; I
tend to agree with David that bringing the player up sooner is better, but
I'd like to look at players for whom this theory didn't work, if there are
any. I'd prefer players within the last 10 years or so, because then I can
look up their minor league stats. (It's important to distinguish between
players who legitimately had careers below what their minor league numbers
would have projected, as opposed to players who were hyped and failed, but
actually had careers not out of line with their minor league numbers).
Let's kick it off with an example of a player who was "rushed", although
there doesn't seem to have been any damage to his career. Jay Bell was
given 135 PAs in the major leagues at age 21, and performed well below what
you would expect from his AAA numbers the same season. He got 236 PAs the
next year at age 22, and still underperformed. However, the next year, at
age 24, his performance improved, and he won the everyday shortstop job,
and has been there ever since. It's really hard for me to see where he
would have been better off staying in the minor league (where he was
performed quite well in AAA) during this time, rather than being "rushed";
Cleveland might have been better off, I suppose, because they might have
been less likely to give up on him.
Yes, if you bring a player up early, he's likely going to struggle. But
does that delay the time at which he stops struggling, and starts
performing up to expectations?
Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
|
4545 | From: jbalgley@bbn.com (Jon Balgley)
Subject: Hidden-line removal program
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman (BBN)
Lines: 11
NNTP-Posting-Host: labs-n.bbn.com
I'm posting this for a friend:
I have an immediate need for a polygon-based hidden-line removal
program. I can deal with any input/output format, but I need to be able
to do perspective views in any orientation and range.
Is there a public-domain hidden-line program around? It seems like
there should be, but I have not been able to locate one.
Email replies and I will summarize.
Thanks
|
4546 | From: manish@uclink.berkeley.edu (Manish Vij)
Subject: Shipping a bike
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Lines: 10
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: uclink.berkeley.edu
Can someone recommend how to ship a motorcycle from San Francisco
to Seattle? And how much might it cost?
I remember a thread on shipping. If someone saved the instructions
on bike prep, please post 'em again, or email.
Thanks,
Manish
|
4547 | From: cmk@athena.mit.edu (Charles M Kozierok)
Subject: Re: Jack Morris
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Lines: 59
NNTP-Posting-Host: marinara.mit.edu
In article <1993Apr19.024222.11181@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902043@ariel.yorku.ca (SHAWN LUDDINGTON) writes:
} In article <1993Apr18.032345.5178@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
} >In article <1993Apr18.030412.1210@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> gspira@nyx.cs.du.edu (Greg Spira) writes:
} >>Howard_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Howard Wong) writes:
} >>
} >>>Has Jack lost a bit of his edge? What is the worst start Jack Morris has had?
} >>
} >>Uh, Jack lost his edge about 5 years ago, and has had only one above
} >>average year in the last 5.
} >
} >Again goes to prove that it is better to be good than lucky. You can
} >count on good tomorrow. Lucky seems to be prone to bad starts (and a
} >bad finish last year :-).
} >
} >(Yes, I am enjoying every last run he gives up. Who was it who said
} >Morris was a better signing than Viola?)
}
} Hey Valentine, I don't see Boston with any world series rings on their
} fingers.
oooooo. cheap shot. :^)
} Damn, Morris now has three and probably the Hall of Fame in his
} future.
who cares? he had two of them before he came to Toronto; and if the
Jays had signed Viola instead of Morris, it would have been Frank who
won 20 and got the ring. and he would be on his way to 20 this year, too.
} Therefore, I would have to say Toronto easily made the best
} signing.
your logic is curious, and spurious.
there is no reason to believe that Viola wouldn't have won as many games
had *he* signed with Toronto. when you compare their stupid W-L records,
be sure to compare their team's offensive averages too.
now, looking at anything like the Morris-Viola sweepstakes a year later
is basically hindsight. but there were plenty of reasons why it
should have been apparent that Viola was the better pitcher, based
on previous recent years and also based on age (Frank is almost 5
years younger! how many knew that?). people got caught up in the '91
World Series, and then on Morris' 21 wins last year. wins are the stupidest,
most misleading statistic in baseball, far worse than RBI or R. that he
won 21 just means that the Jays got him a lot of runs.
the only really valid retort to Valentine is: weren't the Red Sox trying
to get Morris too? oh, sure, they *said* Viola was their first choice
afterwards, but what should we have expected they would say?
} And don't tell me Boston will win this year. They won't
} even be in the top 4 in the division, more like 6th.
if this is true, it won't be for lack of contribution by Viola, so who cares?
-*-
charles
|
4548 | From: brow2812@mach1.wlu.ca (craig brown 9210 u)
Subject: Re: PBS Frontline: Iran and the bomb
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Lines: 93
In article <C5LIHI.389@ccu.umanitoba.ca> ebrahim@ee.umanitoba.ca (Mohamad Ebrahimi) writes:
>
> I would like to share with netters a few points I picked up from the PBS
> Frontline program regarding Iran's nuclear activities, aired on Tuesday
> April 13. For the sake of brevity, I'll present them in some separate
> points.
Already say it the other week on CBC Snoozeworld
> 1- As many other western programs, this program was laid on a bed of
> misinformation throughout the program, to maximize the effect of the
> program on the viewer. Some of the misinformations were as follows:
Yeah, I thought Bonanza was full of lies about the West...
>
> - While the number of martyrs during the sacred defense against Iraqi
> aggression has been officially announced to be about 117,000 and even most
> radical counter-revolutionary groups claim that Iran and Iraq had a total
> of one million dead, this program claims that Iran alone has one million
> dead left from the war.
>
> - The translation of Iranian officials' talks are not 100% true. For
> example when Iranian head of Atomic Energy says that: " It hurts me to
> see that Iran is the subject of these unfriendly propaganda." The
> translator says: " It hurts to see that Iran is doing unfriendly
> research."!
>
> 2- Almost all alleged devices or material bought or planned to be bought
> by Iranians were of countless dual usage, while the program tries to
> undermine their non-military uses, without any reference to Iran's
> big population and its inevitable need to other sources of energy in
> near future and its current deficit in electrical power.
Why the hell would such an oil rich (and hydroelectric potential to be
exploited) spend billions on a nuclear energy programme?
> 3- The whole program is trying to show the Sharif University of
> Technology as a nuclear research center, while even the cameramen of the
> program know well that in a country like Iran without a so tightly closed
> society no one can make a nuclear bomb in a university! Taking in account
> the scientific advancement of Sharif U. in engineering fields and its
> potential role in improvement of Iran's industries and eventually the
> lives of people, it is obvious that they are persuading other countries
> to prevent them from further helping this university or other ones
> in scientific and industrial efforts.
>
> 4- A key point in program's justifications is trying to disvalidate as
> much as possible all efforts done by IAEA [*] in their numerous visits from
> Iran's different sites. They say: "We are not sure if the places visited
> by IAEA are the real ones or not" !, or " We can not rely on IAEA's
> reports and observation, because they failed to see Iraq's nuclear
> activities before" as if they didn't know that Iraq was trying to build
> nuclear weapons!
Yeah, and we have every reason in the world to trust the Iranian regime.
After all, they've been *so* forward with us in the past....
> 5- As an extremely personal opinion, the most disgusting aspect of the
> program was the arrogance of the member of US Senate foreign Affairs,
> William Triplet, in his way of talking, as if he was the god talking
> from the absolute knowledge!
Maybe he *is* God!
> I hope all Iranians be aware of the gradual buildup against their
> country in western media, and I hope Iranian authorities continue to
> their wise and calculated approach with regard to international affairs
> and peaceful coexistence with friendly nations.
hahahahahahaahah!
>Mohammad
>
>
> [*] International Atomic Energy Agency
>
|
4549 | From: mikey@eukanuba.wpd.sgi.com (Mike Yang)
Subject: Re: Monthly Question about XCopyArea() and Expose Events
Reply-To: mikey@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Lines: 27
Nntp-Posting-Host: eukanuba.wpd.sgi.com
In article <BUZZ.93Apr19125438@lion.bear.com>, buzz@bear.com (Buzz Moschetti) writes:
|> (2nd posting of the question that just doesn't seem to get answered)
How can we resist a questions that says something like this?
|> The problem, of course, is that no expose event is generated if the window
|> is already visible and mapped. What we need to do is somehow "tickle" the
|> Window so that the expose handler is hit with arguments that will enable
|> it to render *just* the part of the window that contains the new item.
|>
|> What is the best way to tickle a window to produce this behavior?
If your Expose event handler is truly intelligent about exposed
rectangle information, then you can use XClearArea to generate an
Expose event (assuming that your background pixel is not None) for the
enclosing rectangle of your new item.
This is still not great, since any other items contained within that
rectangle will still be unnecessarily redrawn.
If your Expose event handler simply redraws everything, you'll be
doing much more work than just drawing the new item "on top" of the
existing scene.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Mike Yang Silicon Graphics, Inc.
mikey@sgi.com 415/390-1786
|
4550 | From: mace@kilowatt.UUCP (Mace)
Subject: Intel 96oo Ex Modem
Organization: Kilowatt Computers, Deer Park, LI
Lines: 12
For Sale:
Intel 96oo Baud Modem
External
V32/V42bis
Very Good Working Condition
Never had any problems
$160 oBo
Leave daytime number for fastest response.
The Kilowatt BBS - Deer Park, LI NY
|
4551 | From: flb@flb.optiplan.fi ("F.Baube[tm]")
Subject: First Spacewalk
X-Added: Forwarded by Space Digest
Organization: [via International Space University]
Original-Sender: isu@VACATION.VENARI.CS.CMU.EDU
Distribution: sci
Lines: 13
At one time there was speculation that the first spacewalk
(Alexei Leonov ?) was a staged fake.
Has any evidence to support or contradict this claim emerged ?
Was this claim perhaps another fevered Cold War hallucination ?
--
* Fred Baube (tm) * In times of intellectual ferment,
* baube@optiplan.fi * advantage to him with the intellect
* #include <disclaimer.h> * most fermented !
* How is Frank Zappa doing ?
* May '68, Paris: It's Retrospective Time !!
|
4552 | From: mancus@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Keith Mancus)
Subject: Re: Lindbergh and the moon (was:Why not give $1G)
Organization: MDSSC
Lines: 32
In article <1r3nuvINNjep@lynx.unm.edu>, cook@varmit.mdc.com (Layne Cook) writes:
> All of this talk about a COMMERCIAL space race (i.e. $1G to the first 1-year
> moon base) is intriguing. Similar prizes have influenced aerospace
> development before. The $25k Orteig prize helped Lindbergh sell his Spirit of
> Saint Louis venture to his financial backers.
> But I strongly suspect that his Saint Louis backers had the foresight to
> realize that much more was at stake than $25,000.
> Could it work with the moon? Who are the far-sighted financial backers of
> today?
The commercial uses of a transportation system between already-settled-
and-civilized areas are obvious. Spaceflight is NOT in this position.
The correct analogy is not with aviation of the '30's, but the long
transocean voyages of the Age of Discovery. It didn't require gov't to
fund these as long as something was known about the potential for profit
at the destination. In practice, some were gov't funded, some were private.
But there was no way that any wise investor would spend a large amount
of money on a very risky investment with no idea of the possible payoff.
I am sure that a thriving spaceflight industry will eventually develop,
and large numbers of people will live and work off-Earth. But if you ask
me for specific justifications other than the increased resource base, I
can't give them. We just don't know enough. The launch rate demanded by
existing space industries is just too low to bring costs down much, and
we are very much in the dark about what the revolutionary new space industries
will be, when they will practical, how much will have to be invested to
start them, etc.
--
Keith Mancus <mancus@butch.jsc.nasa.gov> |
N5WVR <mancus@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov> |
"Black powder and alcohol, when your states and cities fall, |
when your back's against the wall...." -Leslie Fish |
|
4553 | From: wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (Bill Mayhew)
Subject: Re: Dumb Question: Function Generator
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Lines: 36
1) Output offset: Obtain the service manual for the oscilloscope
and adjust the internal output offset contorl. There is virtual
certainty that there is an internal ajustment for the offset
control's zero detent position.
2) Verify that the function generator is properly loaded. Many
generators expect you to supply a 50 ohm load. Go to a hamfest
flea market and scrounge around for a pass-through 50 ohm
terminator that has a male and female BNC (or whatever) connector
on it. The calibrator on my Tektronix scope is designed to put out
.4v into a 1 meg load, but .1 volt into a 50 ohm load. You may
also find that loading the output of the function generator also
reduces the harmonic distortion.
Build an attenuator. You don't have to use (and I wouldn't want to
use) the input impedance of the device under test as part of the
voltage divider to drop the input test voltage. Consider this:
------10K--------+---------? ohm ----
|
Gen 50 ohm D.U.T.
(loaded) |
-----------------+-------------------
Think about the ratio of 50/10K and then think about the accuracy
to which you can read voltages on your oscilloscope. You can
virtually discount the loading of the D.U.T. Also you have the
millivolt test generator you want.
Good luck,
--
Bill Mayhew NEOUCOM Computer Services Department
Rootstown, OH 44272-9995 USA phone: 216-325-2511
wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (140.220.1.1) 146.580: N8WED
|
4554 | From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: Goldwing performance
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Lines: 12
In article <3880206@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison) writes:
|According to Peter Egan in the just released Cycle World his FLHS is a
|real dog when he pillions his 120lb wife. All that money for a dog that
|doesn't defecate much. =:-]
But, think of the *mystique* you are buying into for that extra $7k or
more!!!
Randy Davis Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot {uunet!ucsd}!megatek!randy
DoD #0013
|
4555 | From: David Ruggiero <osiris@halcyon.com>
Subject: Bare 4mb 386/25 Micronics system - $450/$350 <reduced!>
Organization: [none - why fight entropy?]
Lines: 29
Distribution: na
Reply-To: osiris@halcyon.halcyon.com (David Ruggiero)
NNTP-Posting-Host: nwfocus.wa.com
Originator: osiris@halcyon.com
"Bare" = case, a power supply, and a motherboard (with RAM and a coprocessor).
Everything else is yours to add as you like.
The motherboard:
- US-made Micronics 8-slot motherboard with Intel 386dx/25mhz CPU
- 64kb SRAM cache
- 4mb 80us RAM using 4x1mb simms (worth $120 alone)
- Cyrix 83D87 math coprocessor (worth $90 alone)
- Norton SI 6.0 rating of 26.1
- Latest version Phoenix BIOS
The case/power supply:
- Standard desktop case. 230watt power supply with the usual connectors.
- Room for five floppy/hard drives (three visible, two internal).
*New* Micronics CPUs often command a several-hundred dollar premium
over clone motherboards because they are US-made, use high-quality
components, and are known to be both very reliable and compatible. They
have been OEMed in systems sold by both Gateway and Zeos at various
points in the past. (Check out the ads in the back pages of Byte or PC
Magazine if you want to see this price differential for yourself.)
Price: $450 complete, $100 less if you don't want/need the case and
power supply. The board is fully guaranteed. Email for further details
or for any questions.
Thanks!
--
David Ruggiero (jdavid@halcyon.com) Seattle, WA: Home of the Moss People
|
4556 | From: moore@halley.est.3m.com (Richard Moore)
Subject: Using message passing with XtAddInput
Organization: 3M Company, 3M Center, Minnesota, USA
Distribution: comp.windows.x
Lines: 7
In the past, I have used named pipes to communicate between processes using
the XtAddInput function to set up the event handling in Motif. Does anybody
know of a way to do this with message passing ( IPC ) ? I tried it here and
no luck so far.
Thanks
|
4557 | From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Maryland, College Park
Lines: 14
NNTP-Posting-Host: sayshell.umd.edu
In article <tcmayC5M2xv.JEx@netcom.com> tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) writes:
>But is it any worse than the current unsecure system? It becomes much
>worse, of course, if the government then uses this "Clinton Clipper"
>to argue for restrictions on unapproved encryption. (This is the main
>concern of most of us, I think. The camel's nose in the tent, etc.)
Excuse me? This has *already* happened. There's a couple of humps in
the tent already. Ask the folks at Qualcomm what became of the
non-trivial encryption scheme they proposed for use in their CDMA
digitial cellular phone standard? There *already* are restrictions in
place.
Louis Mamakos
|
4558 | From: marshalk@mercury.Berkeley.EDU (Kevin Marshall)
Subject: Re: Grey Scale while in windows?
Organization: Motorola Ltd., European Cellular Infrastructure Division
Lines: 6
Distribution: world
Reply-To: marshalk@mercury.Berkeley.EDU (Kevin Marshall)
NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.swindon.rtsg.mot.com
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Kevin Marshall, Operational Support, Motorola ECID, Swindon, UK. |
| E-mail : marshalk@zeus |
| Phone : +44 793 545127 (International) (0793) 545127 (Domestic) |
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|
4559 | From: sieferme@stein.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman)
Subject: Re: I don't beleive in you either.
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Lines: 15
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu
In article <1993Apr13.213055.818@antioc.antioch.edu> smauldin@antioc.antioch.edu writes:
>I stopped believing in you as well, long before the invention of technology.
>
>--GOD
>
Don't listen to this guy, he's just a crank. At first, this business
about being the "one true god" was tolerated by the rest of us,
but now it has gotten completely out of hand.
Besides, it really isn't so bad when people stop believing in you.
It's much more relaxing when mortals aren't always begging you for favors.
-- ZEUS
|
4560 | From: kirsch@staff.tc.umn.edu (Dave 'Almost Cursed the Jays' Kirsch)
Subject: Re: Young Catchers
Nntp-Posting-Host: staff.tc.umn.edu
Organization: Li'l Carlos and the Hormones
Lines: 31
In article <1993Apr5.165122.19860@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Theodorus RedSox Fannus] Fischer) writes:
>
>Sorry, this doesn't fly. The good players have *always* been ready
>for the majors early. How many HOFers were *not* contributing major
>leaguers by the time they were 22?
That brings up an interesting point. Anyone else catch ESPN's piece about
prospects and the relationship between age, career length, MVPs and Hall of
Fame members? It was part of their preseason special. Basically, they looked
at players that had amassed 1000 plate appearances (or ABs) by the time they
were 24, and noticed some interesting things.
For starters, they found out such players comprised the majority of MVPs in
the history of the game. They also found out such players represented the
majority of the players in the hall of fame. The kicker, though, was that
they actually did some number-crunching and found that such players' careers
lasted much longer than the careers of players not in that group. They also
found that these players produced at both a greater level of performance and
produced over twice the raw totals (HRs, etc) of the other players. The first
group outhit the second something like .282 to .260 in raw BA, and blew away
the second group in such categories as HRs, 2Bs, RBIs, etc.
It was the most impressive thing I've seen on ESPN in recent memory.
I guess Ray Knight makes his rebuttal tonight.
--
Dave Hung Like a Jim Acker Slider Kirsch Blue Jays - Do it again in '93
kirsch@staff.tc.umn.edu New .. quotes out of context!
"Not to beat a dead horse, but it's been a couple o' weeks .. this
disappoints me..punishments..discharges..jackhammering.." - Stephen Lawrence
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4561 | From: catone@compstat.wharton.upenn.edu (Tony Catone)
Subject: Re: 80486DX-50 vs 80486DX2-50
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Lines: 17
Nntp-Posting-Host: compstat.wharton.upenn.edu
In-reply-to: hamilton@golem.wcc.govt.nz's message of 13 Apr 93 01:34:36 GMT
In article <1qd5bcINNmep@golem.wcc.govt.nz> hamilton@golem.wcc.govt.nz (Michael Hamilton) writes:
Do you really need to switch to a DX2/66 instead of a DX50? As I
understand it, DX50's can have local bus devices (on the mother-board?)
but not local bus slots. And according to what I been told, many
systems go beyond the VESA local bus standard in order to provide DX50
systems with a local bus slot capability. I have definitly seen a
mother board with 2 local bus slots which claimed to be able to
support any CPU, including the DX2/66 and DX50. Can someone throw
some more informed light on this issue?
You will need to check with peripheral makers to see if their boards
will work at 50 MHz. Some will with some motherboards.
- Tony
catone@compstat.wharton.upenn.edu
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4562 | From: jsledd@ssdc.sas.upenn.edu (James Sledd)
Subject: Serbian genocide Work of God?
Organization: Social Science Computing
Lines: 13
Are the Serbs doing the work of God? Hmm...
I've been wondering if anyone would ever ask the question,
Are the governments of the United States and Europe not moving
to end the ethnic cleansing by the Serbs because the targets are
muslims?
Can/Does God use those who are not following him to accomplish
tasks for him? Esp those tasks that are punative?
James Sledd
no cute sig.... but I'm working on it.
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4563 | From: sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Sturges)
Subject: Re: Help! Which bikes are short?
Reply-To: sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Sturges)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
Lines: 23
In rec.motorcycles, bean@ra.cgd.ucar.edu (Gregory Bean) writes:
>Help! I've got a friend shopping for her first motorcycle. This is great!
>Unfortunately, she needs at most a 28" seat. This is not great. So far,
>the only thing we've found was an old and unhappy-looking KZ440.
I had a kz440 and thought it was the best $100 bike I've ever
ridden. And mind you, I've ridden many bikes.
>I seem to remember a thread with a point similar to this passing through
>several months ago. Did anybody keep that list?
You must be mistaken. No thread in this group has ever had a point.
Seriously, there are many 'short' bikes out there. What style bike
and how much money does she have. My SO is 5'3" and rides her CB1
or my hawk GT with ease. Most cruisers are low slung. YSR50's are
real short too.
<================================================>
/ Rich Sturges (h) 703-536-4443 \
/ NSWC - Carderock Division (w) 301-227-1670 \
/ "I speak for no one else, and listen to the same." \
<========================================================>
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4564 | From: flax@frej.teknikum.uu.se (Jonas Flygare)
Subject: Re: 18 Israelis murdered in March
Organization: Dept. Of Control, Teknikum, Uppsala
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<1993Apr5.221759.28472@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: frej.teknikum.uu.se
In-reply-to: hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU 's message of Mon, 5 Apr 93 22:17:59 GMT
In article <1993Apr5.221759.28472@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes:
[ stuff deleted ]
|> I wrote:
|> Are you calling names, or giving me a title? If the first, read your
|> paragraph above, if not I accept the title, in order to let you get into the
|> um, well, debate again.
Hasan replies:
I didnot know that "Master of wisdom" can be "name clling" too,
unless you consider yourself deserve-less !
Unless you are referring to someone else, you have in fact given me a name
I did not ask for, hence the term 'name calling'.
Hasan writes:
|> So what do you expect me to tell you to tell you, Master of Wsidom,
|> ^^^
|> ------------------------------------------------------------------
I replied:
|> If you insist on giving me names/titles I did not ask for you could at
|> least spell them correctly. /sigh.
Hasan gloats:
That was only to confuse you! (ha ha ha hey )
Hell-bent on retarding into childhood, no?
|>when you are intentionally neglecting the MOST important fact that
|>the whole israeli presence in the occupied territories is ILLEGITIMATE,
|>and hence ALL their actions, their courts, their laws are illegitimate on
|>the ground of occupied territories.
|>
>No, I am _not_ neglecting that, I'm merely asking you whether the existance
>of Israeli citicens in the WB or in Gaza invalidates those individuals
>right
^^^^^^^ are you trying to retaliate and confuse me here.
No, I really do try to spell correctly, and I apologize if I did confuse you.
I will try not to repeat that.
|> to live, a (as you so eloquently put it) human right. We can get back to the
|> question of which law should be used in the territories later. Also, you have
|> not adressed my question if the israelis also have human rights.
First, my above statement doesnot say that "the existence of israeli citizens
in the WB revoke their right of life" but it says "the israeli occupation
of the WB revoke the right of life for some/most its citizens - basically
revokes the right of for its military men". Clearly, occupation is an
undeclared war; during war, attacks against military targets are fully legitimate.
Ok, let me re-phrase the question. I have repeatedly asked you if the
Israelis have less human rights than the palestinians, and if so, why.
From your posting (where you did not directly adress my question) I inferred
that you thought so. Together with the above statement I then assumed that the
reason was the actions of the state of Israel. Re: your statement of
occupation: I'd like you to define the term, so I don't have to repeat this
'drag the answer out of hasan' procedure more than neccesary.
Secondly, surely israeli have human rights, but they ask their goverment to
protect it by withdrawing from the occupied terretories, not by further oppressing
Palestinean human rights.
I'm sorry, but the above sentence does not make sense. Please rephrase it.
|> If a state can deprive all it's citizens of human rights by its actions, then
|> tell me why _any_ human living today should have any rights at all?
Because not all states are like Israel, as oppressive, as ignorant, or as tyrant.
Oh, ok. So how about the human rights of the Syrians, Iraqis and others?
Does the name of Hama sound familiar? Or how about the kurds in Iraq and
Turkey?
How about the Same in Sweden (Ok, maybe a bit farfetched..) the Russians in
the Baltic states or the Moslem in the old USSR and Yugoslavia?
Do the serbs have any human rights remainaing, according to you?
|> |> And which system do you propose we use to solve the ME problem?
|>
|> The question is NOT which system would solve the ME problem. Why ? because
|> any system can solve it.
|> The laws of minister Sharon says kick Palestineans out of here (all palestine).
|>
|> I asked for which system should be used, that will preserve human rights for
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> all people involved. I assumed that was obvious, but I won't repeat that
|> mistake. Now that I have straightened that out, I'm eagerly awaiting your
|> reply.
So you agree that that an israeli solution wouldnot preserve human rights.
(i am understanding this from your first statement in this paragraph).
No, I'm agreeing that to just kick all the Palestinians out of Israel proper
would probably lead to disaster for both parties. If that's what you refer
to as the 'Israeli solution' then so be it.
|> Joseph Weitz (administrator responsible for Jewish colonization)
|> said it best when writing in his diary in 1940:
|> "Between ourselves it must be clear that there is no room for both
|> peoples together in this country.... We shall not achieve our goal
|> ^^^ ^^^
|> of being an independent people with the Arabs in this small country.
|> The only solution is a Palestine, at least Western Palestine (west of
|> the Jordan river) without Arabs.... And there is no other way than
|> to transfer the Arabs from here to the neighbouring countries, to
|> transfer all of them; not one village, not one tribe, should be
|> left.... Only after this transfer will the country be able to
|> absorb the millions of our own brethren. There is no other way out."
|> DAVAR, 29 September, 1967
|> ("Courtesy" of Marc Afifi)
|>
|> Just a question: If we are to disregard the rather obvious references to
|> getting Israel out of ME one way or the other in both PLO covenant and HAMAS
|> charter (that's the english translations, if you have other information I'd
|> be interested to have you translate it) why should we give any credence to
|> a _private_ paper even older? I'm not going to get into the question if he
|> wrote the above, but it's fairly obvious all parties in the conflict have
|> their share of fanatics. Guess what..? Those are not the people that will
|> make any lasting peace in the region. [more deleted stuff]
>Exactly, you are right. I guess that the problem is that the israeli goverment>is full with men like Joseph Weitz.
Oh? Have you met with them personally, to read their diaries? Fascinating.
What do you _do_ for a living?
|> "We" and "our" either refers to Zionists or Jews (i donot know which).
|>
|> Well, i can give you an answer, you Master of Wisdom, I will NOT suggest the
|> imperialist israeli system for solving the ME problem !
|>
|> I think that is fair enough .
|>
|> No, that is _not_ an answer, since I asked for a system that could solve
|> the problem. You said any could be used, then you provided a contradiction.
Above you wrote that you understood what i meant (underlined by ^ ):
any system can be used to solve the conflict , but not any system would
resolve it JUSTLY.
An unjust solution would be a non-solution, per definition, no?
You said the following:
For all A it holds that A have property B.
There exists an A such that property B does not hold.
Thus, either or both statements must be false.
|> Guess where that takes your logic? To never-never land.
>You are proving yourself as a " ". First you understood what i meant, but then
>you claim you didnot so to claim a contradiction in my logic.
>Too bad for you, the Master of Wisdom.
I was merely pointing out a not so small flaw in your reasoning.
Since you claim to be logical I felt it best to point this out
before you started using your statements to prove a point or so.
Am I then to assume you are not logical?
|> "The greatest problem of Zionism is Arab children".
|> -Rabbi Shoham.
|>
|> Oh, and by the way, let me add that these cute quotes you put at the end are
|> a real bummer, when I try giving your posts any credit.
>Why do you feel ashamed by things and facts that you believe in ,
>if you were a Zionists. If you believe in Zionist codes and acts,
>well i feel sorry for you, because the same Rabbi Shoham had said
>"Yes, Zionism is racism".
>If you feel ashamed and bothered by the Zionist codes, then drop Zionism.
>If you are not Zionist, why are you bothered then. You should join me in
>condemning these racist Zionist codes and acts.
Any quote can be misused, especially when used to stereotype all
individuals by a statement of an individual. If you use the same
methods that you credit 'Zionists' with, then where does that place you?
Oh, by the way, I'd advice you not to assume anything about my 'loyalties'.
I will and am condemning acts I find vile and inhuman, but I'll try as
long as I can not to assume those acts are by a whole people.
By zionist above do you mean the state of Israel, the government of Israel,
the leaders of Israel (political and/or religious) or the jews in
general? If you feel the need to condemn, condemn those responsible
instead. How would you feel if we started condemning you personally
based on the bombings in Egypt?
--
--------------------------------------------------------
Jonas Flygare, + Wherever you go, there you are
V{ktargatan 32 F:621 +
754 22 Uppsala, Sweden +
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4565 | From: vzhivov@superior.carleton.ca (Vladimir Zhivov)
Subject: Flames Truly Brutal in Loss
Organization: Carleton University
Lines: 28
As the subject suggests the Flames were not impressive this afternoon,
dropping a 6-3 decision to the LA Kings. Most of the Flames neglected
to show up, especially in their own zone, as the Kings hit at least
five posts! The Flames best line was probably
Skrudland-Paslawski-Berube (which tells how bad the Flames were). Gary
Suter scored a great goal (in fact all three Flame goals were scored
by D-men - Yawney and Dahlquist getting the others), but also made
some bonehead plays. For the Kings, Pat Conacher was especially
impressive.
The games was VERY chippy, as Dan Mirouelli lost control early and
never recovered it; there were high-sticks, cross-checks, punches,
hits from behind. Fleury got a game misconduct for rubbing out Warren
Rychel from behind. Flames dominated the game physically, but failed
to take advantage due to horrendous defensive lapses (I don't think
Vernon can be blamed for any of the goals). Calgary went with 7 D-men,
as Roger Johansson played LW; he looked lost IMHO - I hope King
inserts Chris Lindbergh, Paul Kruse, or Sergei Makarov for Wednesday's
game. Gretzky left the game in the 2nd period with a charley-horse; no
idea how serious - he didn't return.
I still think the Flames should win this series, but they better
buckle down.
- Vlad the Impaler
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4566 | From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: Interesting ADB behaviour on C650
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Lines: 22
NNTP-Posting-Host: tea.eng.umd.edu
In article <1ql7naINN2l8@shelley.u.washington.edu> davisson@stein.u.washington.edu (Gordon Davisson) writes:
>Mind you, this doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. The parts that can
>blow (the ADB power fuse and RF filter) aren't too expensive, so IF you
>have a someone around who can do component-level repair, it may be worth
>the risk (especially if you're around Seattle, 'cause you might get to
>pay *me* to fix it :-)).. On the other hand, if your only repair option
>is the Apple-standard logic board swap (major $$$$), you should probably
>play it safe.
>
>
>SCSI: yes, ADB: yes, Floppies: yes... They can all cause trouble.
OTOH, some of us get lucky-- I've unplugged and replugged SCSI and ADB
quite often, and never blown anything. I blew out the ADB by shorting
the cable, though.
--
Matthew T. Russotto russotto@eng.umd.edu russotto@wam.umd.edu
Some news readers expect "Disclaimer:" here.
Just say NO to police searches and seizures. Make them use force.
(not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice)
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4567 | From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Moonbase race
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
Lines: 23
In article <3HgF3B3w165w@shakala.com> dante@shakala.com (Charlie Prael) writes:
>Doug-- Actually, if memory serves, the Atlas is an outgrowth of the old
>Titan ICBM...
Nope, you're confusing separate programs. Atlas was the first-generation
US ICBM; Titan I was the second-generation one; Titan II, which all the
Titan launchers are based on, was the third-generation heavy ICBM. There
was essentially nothing in common between these three programs.
(Yes, *three* programs. Despite the similarity of names, Titan I and
Titan II were completely different missiles. They didn't even use the
same fuels, never mind the same launch facilities.)
>If so, there's probably quite a few old pads, albeit in need
>of some serious reconditioning. Still, Being able to buy the turf and
>pad (and bunkers, including prep facility) at Midwest farmland prices
>strikes me as pretty damned cheap.
Sorry, the Titan silos (a) can't handle the Titan launchers with their
large SRBs, (b) can't handle *any* sort of launcher without massive
violations of normal range-safety rules (nobody cares about such things
in the event of a nuclear war, but in peacetime they matter), and (c) were
scrapped years ago.
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4568 | From: barrym@informix.com (Barry Mednick)
Subject: Re: Jewish Baseball Players?
Summary: a few names
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Lines: 9
In article <15APR93.14691229.0062@lafibm.lafayette.edu> VB30@lafibm.lafayette.edu (VB30) writes:
>Just wondering. A friend and I were talking the other day, and
>we were (for some reason) trying to come up with names of Jewish
>maybe John Lowenstein.
Lowenstein is NOT Jewish. However, there is a long list including
Hank Greenberg, Moe Berg, Rod Carew (a convert), the Sherry brothers,
Art Shamsky, and Ron Blomberg.
Barry
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4569 | From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Subject: Re: Octopus in Detroit?
Organization: UB
Lines: 16
Nntp-Posting-Host: autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu
In article <1993Apr17.062622.25380@news.clarkson.edu> farenebt@logic.camp.clarkson.edu (Droopy) writes:
>In fact, the tradition has been passed down to their affiliate
>in Adirondack. In Gm 6 of last yr's finals, an 8 legged creature was
>hurled onto the frozen pond and landed right at the feet of ref
>Lance Roberts.
It may have been passed to Toronto, but I've even seen an octopus at
the Aud -- last year's Bruins-Sabres game. I knew all about the
Detroit version, but seeing at the Aud was a bit puzzling. :-)
--
Valerie Hammerl Birtday -(n)- An event when friends get
hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu together, set your dessert on fire, then
acscvjh@ubms.cc.buffalo.edu laugh and sing while you frantically try
v085pwwpz@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu to blow it out.
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4570 | From: C.O.EGALON@LARC.NASA.GOV (CLAUDIO OLIVEIRA EGALON)
Subject: Re: pushing the envelope
Article-I.D.: rave.1psogpINNksq
Reply-To: C.O.EGALON@LARC.NASA.GOV (CLAUDIO OLIVEIRA EGALON)
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA USA
Lines: 11
NNTP-Posting-Host: tahiti.larc.nasa.gov
> flight tests are generally carefully coreographed and just what
> is going to be 'pushed' and how
> far is precisely planned (despite occasional deviations from plans,
> such as the 'early' first flight of the F-16 during its high-speed
> taxi tests).
.. and Chuck Yeager earlier flights with the X-1...
C.O.EGALON@LARC.NASA.GOV
|
4571 | From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Subject: Re: Tracing license plates of BDI cagers?
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Lines: 26
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com
In article 150493174345@17.127.11.85, jamesf@apple.com (Jim Franklin) writes:
>
>I can file a complaint about this? And actually have the chance to have
>something done? How? Who? Where?
A traffic citation is an accusation of having committed a crime.
That's why they have to go through the motions of having a trial if you
want one, you are still innocent until proven guilty. Cops are not the
only ones who can accuse people of committing crimes, anyone who
witnesses a crime can do so.
Go to the Highway Patrol and explain the situation, give them a
description of the car and the license number, and tell them the
specific violation of the law which you witnessed and wish to prosecute
(ie, search the Vehicle Code and have the section number handy). Fill
out the ticket and sign it. It will go through the same system any
ticket a cop writes goes through. If contested, you will have to
appear in court to prosecute. Your word will not carry the same weight
as a cop's.
---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM |and I showed him a picture of you. I said,
DoD #0111 (919)460-8302 |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
(The Grateful Dead) --> |It seemed like the least I could do...
|
4572 | From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith)
Subject: Re: IDE vs SCSI
Organization: The John P. Robarts Research Institute, London, Ontario
Nntp-Posting-Host: valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca
Lines: 27
In article <1qpu0uINNbt1@dns1.NMSU.Edu> bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB) writes:
>wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
>Since the Mac uses ONLY SCSI-1 for hard drives YES the "figure includes a
>hundred $$$ for SCSI drivers" This is sloppy people and DUMB.
What group is this? This is not a MAC group.
>Ok once again with the SCSI spec list:
Why the spec list again? We are talking SCSI on a PC, not on a MAC or
a UNIX box. And we are talking ISA bus, or possibly EISA or VLB.
This isin't comp.periphs.SCSI.
Tell me what the performance figures are with a single SCSI drive on a PC
with an ISA (or EISA or VLB) bus.
Theoretical performance figures are not relevant to this group or this
debate. I'm sure that there are some platforms out there that can
handle the 40 megs/sec of SCSI xyz wide'n'fast, but the PC isin't one of
them.
>If we are to continue this thread STATE CLEARLY WHICH SCSI you are talking
>about SCSI-1 or SCSI-2 or SCSI over all {SCSI-1 AND SCSI-2}
>IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
Well maybe if the SCSI design people had their act together than maybe
all PC's would have built in SCSI ports by now.
|
4573 | From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: American Jewish Congress Open Letter to Clinton
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Lines: 30
In article <22APR199300513566@vxcrna.cern.ch> casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE) writes:
>>Are you aware that there is an arms embargo on all of what is/was
>>Yugoslavia, including Bosnia, which guarantees massive military
>>superiority of Serbian forces and does not allow the Bosnians to
>>try to defend themselves?
>Should we sell weapons to all sides, or just the losing one, then?
Ending an embargo does not _we_ must sell anything at all.
>If the Europeans want to sell weapons to one or both sides, they are welcome
>as far as I'm concerned.
You seem to oppose ending the embargo. You know, it is difficult for Europeans
to sell weapons when there is an embargo in place.
>I do not automatically accept the argument that Bosnia is any worse than
>other recent civil wars, say Vietnam for instance. The difference is it is
>happening to white people inside Europe, with lots of TV coverage.
But if this was the reason, and if furthermore both sides are equal, wouldn't
all us racist Americans be favoring the good Christians (Serbs) instead
of the non-Christians we really seem to favor?
--
"On the first day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Leftover Turkey!
On the second day after Christmas my truelove served to me... Turkey Casserole
that she made from Leftover Turkey.
[days 3-4 deleted] ... Flaming Turkey Wings! ...
-- Pizza Hut commercial (and M*tlu/A*gic bait)
Ken Arromdee (arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
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4574 | From: poutsmaj@mace.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Subject: Re: Aguilera Causes Cardiac Arrest
Organization: Purdue University
Lines: 21
In article <1qi97dINNemh@phakt.usc.edu> wagner@phakt.usc.edu (Loren Wagner) writes:
>In article <1993Apr14.123722.24506@bmw.mayo.edu> bergerson@mayo.edu writes:
>>
>>Maybe you would rather have Ron Davis back ???? :^)
>>
>
>The truly amazing thing was how many years this bum was the closer for the
>Twins. You'd have thought they could find *somebody* better.
>
>Don Daybell
>wagner@usc.edu
Going into the ninth with a 3 run lead, ...2 runs score...runners on
first and second...RD throws, "there's a drive waaaaaayyyyyyy back,
Puckett to the wall, leaps, He CAUGHT THE BALL!!!! WHAT A CATCH BY KIRBY!!
TWINS WIN!" and RD gets the save. His line 1 IP, 2 walks, 2 hits, and
one robbed home run...
paul
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4575 | From: lgorbet@triton.unm.edu (Larry P Gorbet ANTHROPOLOGY)
Subject: Re: Floptical Question
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Lines: 11
NNTP-Posting-Host: triton.unm.edu
In article <bmyers-140493201843@slip-x27.ots.utexas.edu> bmyers@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Billy Lee Myers, Jr.) writes:
>...the last time I looked, floptical disk
>weren't all that cheap, ($30 per floptical disk = $1.40 per megabyte, $60
>per sysquest is $1.36 per megabyte).
Flopticals have been available since the beginning of the year at $25
per floptical (= $1.20 per megabyte), and I have seen them advertised
in MacWEEK at $20 (< $1.00 per megabyte). For someone on a tight
budget, the fact that the minimal dollar increment for more storage is
less---$25 versus $60---sometimes matters.
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4576 | From: coulman@cs.Usask.CA (Randy Coulman)
Subject: Re: Playoff Predictions
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Lines: 28
Distribution: world
Reply-To: coulman@cs.Usask.CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skorpio.usask.ca
In article <1993Apr04.223559.7129@rose.com>, jack.petrilli@rose.com (jack petrilli) writes:
[... stuff deleted ...]
>
>I don't understand why so many people are predicting an upset against
>Pittsburgh. The team has won 12 in a row coming into the playoffs.
>They've won practically every game that they've really wanted to win
>all year (including critical victories against the Caps and one
>against a hot Bruins team **at the Gaahden**). The team is probably at
>its peak (stronger than the previous 2 Stanley Cup winners). I mean, I
>know they can lose but it would be a **large** upset. I personally
>think teams are going to be hard pressed to win 1 or 2 games in any
>series against the Pens (and I'm **not** a Pittsburgh fan).
>
I have to agree here. As I heard on TSN tonight, "You want to pick
someone else, but you just don't see how you can". And I'm a Bruins
fan. Maybe this year will be different, but it doesn't look good.
Time will tell, though.
[... lots more deleted ...]
Randy
--
Randy A. Coulman, M.Sc. | ARIES Laboratory
Research Assistant | Department of Computational Science
| University of Saskatchewan
coulman@cs.Usask.ca | Saskatoon, SK S7N 0W0
|
4577 | From: ghhwang@csie.nctu.edu.tw (ghhwang)
Subject: Re: WP-PCF, Linux, RISC?
Organization: Computer Sci. & Information Eng., Chiao-Tung U, Taiwan, ROC
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Lines: 7
Dear friend,
The RISC means "reduced instruction set computer". The RISC usually has
small instruction set so as to reduce the circuit complex and can increase
the clock rate to have a high performance. You can read some books about
computer architecture for more information about RISC.
ghhwang@csie.nctu.edu.tw form R.O.C TaiwaN
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4578 | From: Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org>
Subject: Poem by Erich Fried
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1483500363:000:1387
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!cpr Apr 25 05:29:00 1993
Lines: 46
From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: Poem by Erich Fried
Poem by German-Jewish poet Erich Fried (Holocaust survivor)
Ein Jude an die zionistischen Kaempfer - 1988
von Erich Fried
Was wollt ihr eigentlich ? Wollt ihr wirklich die uebertreffen
die euch niedergetreten haben vor einem Menschenalter in euer
eigenes Blut und in euren eigenen Kot ?
*
Wollt ihr die alten Foltern jetzt an andere weitergeben mit allen
blutigen dreckigen Einzelheiten mit allem brutalen Genuss die
Folterknechte wie unsere Vaeter sie damals erlitten haben ?
*
Wollt jetzt wirklich ihr die neue Gestapo sein die neue Wehrmacht
die neue SA and SS und aus den Palaestinensern die neuen Juden
machen ?
*
Aber dann will auch ich weil ich damals vor fuenfzig Jahren selbst
als ein Judenkind gepeinigt wurde von euren Peinigern ein neuer
Jude sein mit diesen neuen Juden zu denen ihr die Palaestinenser
macht
*
Und ich will sie zurueckfuehren helfen als freie Menschen in ihr
eigenes Land Palaestina aus dem ihr sie vertrieben habt oder in
dem ihr sie quaelt ihr Hakenkreuzlehrlinge ihr Narren und
Wechselbaelge der Weltgeschichte denen der Davidstern auf euren
Fahnen sich immer schneller verwandelt in das verfluchte Zeichen
mit den vier Fuessen das ihr nun nicht sehen wollt aber dessen Weg
ihr heut geht !
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4579 | From: finchm@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Michael >Finchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchmfinchm< Finch)
Subject: Re: Why the clipper algorithm is secret
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA
Lines: 17
NNTP-Posting-Host: csugrad.cs.vt.edu
johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) writes:
> >The cryptographic protocol, though, is another matter. I see no valid
> >reasons for keeping it secret, and -- as I hope I've shown above -- there
> It just occurred to me why the algorithm is secret. If it were
> published, one could then build physically identical clone versions
I recall seeing a post some time ago saying that if the details of
an encryption scheme couldn't be revealed, then the encryption
scheme is worthless. I believe the statement was in response to
somebody saying that they had some new snazzy scheme, but the
algorithm was a secret.
Does this algorithm depend on the fact that the scheme is secret or
is it for the stated reasons above?
-Mike
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4580 | From: hm@cs.brown.edu (Harry Mamaysky)
Subject: Heil Hernlem
In-Reply-To: hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu's message of Wed, 14 Apr 1993 12:58:13 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Brown University
Lines: 24
In article <1993Apr14.125813.21737@ncsu.edu> hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu (Brad Hernlem) writes:
Lebanese resistance forces detonated a bomb under an Israeli occupation
patrol in Lebanese territory two days ago. Three soldiers were killed and
two wounded. In "retaliation", Israeli and Israeli-backed forces wounded
8 civilians by bombarding several Lebanese villages. Ironically, the Israeli
government justifies its occupation in Lebanon by claiming that it is
necessary to prevent such bombardments of Israeli villages!!
Congratulations to the brave men of the Lebanese resistance! With every
Israeli son that you place in the grave you are underlining the moral
bankruptcy of Israel's occupation and drawing attention to the Israeli
government's policy of reckless disregard for civilian life.
Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
Very nice. Three people are murdered, and Bradly is overjoyed. When I
hear about deaths in the middle east, be it Jewish or Arab deaths, I
feel sadness, and only hope that soon this all stops. Apparently, my
view point is not acceptable to people like you Bradly.
Hernlem, you disgust me.
Harry.
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4581 | From: stanly@grok11.columbiasc.ncr.com (stanly)
Subject: Re: Elder Brother
Organization: NCR Corp., Columbia SC
Lines: 15
In article <Apr.8.00.57.41.1993.28246@athos.rutgers.edu> REXLEX@fnal.gov writes:
>In article <Apr.7.01.56.56.1993.22824@athos.rutgers.edu> shrum@hpfcso.fc.hp.com
>Matt. 22:9-14 'Go therefore to the main highways, and as many as you find
>there, invite to the wedding feast.'...
>hmmmmmm. Sounds like your theology and Christ's are at odds. Which one am I
>to believe?
In this parable, Jesus tells the parable of the wedding feast. "The kingdom
of heaven is like unto a certain king which made a marriage for his son".
So the wedding clothes were customary, and "given" to those who "chose" to
attend. This man "refused" to wear the clothes. The wedding clothes are
equalivant to the "clothes of righteousness". When Jesus died for our sins,
those "clothes" were then provided. Like that man, it is our decision to
put the clothes on.
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4582 | Subject: NHL Summary parse results for games played Sat, April 3, 1993
From: c5ff@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (COOK Charlie)
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Lines: 373
Tampa Bay 1 1 0--2
Philadelphia 3 2 1--6
First period
1, Philadelphia, Carkner 3 (unassisted) 1:24.
2, Philadelphia, Hawgood 9 (Recchi, Lindros) pp, 5:56.
3, Philadelphia, Lindros 37 (Recchi, Hawgood) pp, 9:52.
4, Tampa Bay, Beers 12 (Zamuner, Chambers) pp, 15:06.
Second period
5, Tampa Bay, Andersson 13 (Hamrlik, Lafreniere) pp, 1:58.
6, Philadelphia, Conroy 3 (Butsayev, Faust) 12:10.
7, Philadelphia, Beranek 13 (Galley, Hawgood) pp, 18:53.
Third period
8, Philadelphia, Recchi 51 (Brind'Amour, Galley) pp, 17:56.
Philadelphia: 6 Power play: 5-4
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Beranek 1 0 1
Brind'Amour 0 1 1
Butsayev 0 1 1
Carkner 1 0 1
Conroy 1 0 1
Faust 0 1 1
Galley 0 2 2
Hawgood 1 2 3
Lindros 1 1 2
Recchi 1 2 3
Tampa Bay: 2 Power play: 7-2
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Andersson 1 0 1
Beers 1 0 1
Chambers 0 1 1
Hamrlik 0 1 1
Lafreniere 0 1 1
Zamuner 0 1 1
-----------------------------------------
Vancouver 1 0 0--1
Detroit 2 2 1--5
First period
1, Detroit, Kozlov 4 (Fedorov, Chiasson) 5:20.
2, Detroit, Drake 17 (Ciccarelli, Coffey) pp, 7:48.
3, Vancouver, Ronning 24 (Slegr, Bure) pp, 17:35.
Second period
4, Detroit, Sheppard 30 (Drake, Hiller) 6:54.
5, Detroit, Ciccarelli 38 (Chiasson, Drake) pp, 12:13.
Third period
6, Detroit, Ysebaert 31 (Fedorov, Cheveldae) sh, 4:59.
Detroit: 5 Power play: 5-2 Special goals: pp: 2 sh: 1 Total: 3
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Cheveldae 0 1 1
Chiasson 0 2 2
Ciccarelli 1 1 2
Coffey 0 1 1
Drake 1 2 3
Fedorov 0 2 2
Hiller 0 1 1
Kozlov 1 0 1
Sheppard 1 0 1
Ysebaert 1 0 1
Vancouver: 1 Power play: 6-1
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Bure 0 1 1
Ronning 1 0 1
Slegr 0 1 1
-----------------------------------------
Buffalo 1 1 0--2
Boston 1 1 1--3
First period
1, Buffalo, Audette 12 (Corkum, Wood) 16:40.
2, Boston, Juneau 30 (Neely, Oates) 18:39.
Second period
3, Buffalo, Errey 9 (LaFontaine, Khmylev) 10:51.
4, Boston, Douris 3 (D.Sweeney, Bourque) 17:57.
Third period
5, Boston, Donato 12 (unassisted) 17:42.
Boston: 3 Power play: 4-0
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Bourque 0 1 1
Donato 1 0 1
Douris 1 0 1
Juneau 1 0 1
Neely 0 1 1
Oates 0 1 1
Sweeney D 0 1 1
Buffalo: 2 Power play: 5-0
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Audette 1 0 1
Corkum 0 1 1
Errey 1 0 1
Khmylev 0 1 1
LaFontaine 0 1 1
Wood 0 1 1
-----------------------------------------
Calgary 1 1 0 1--3
San Jose 0 2 0 0--2
First period
1, Calgary, Suter 21 (Reichel, MacInnis) pp, 17:47.
Second period
2, San Jose, Zmolek 5 (Odgers, Evason) 3:03.
3, San Jose, Kisio 24 (Garpenlov, Gaudreau) pp, 7:23.
4, Calgary, Lindberg 9 (MacInnis) pp, 12:43.
Third period
No scoring.
Overtime
5, Calgary, Fleury 31 (Otto, Yawney) 3:06.
Calgary: 3 Power play: 8-2
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Fleury 1 0 1
Lindberg 1 0 1
MacInnis 0 2 2
Otto 0 1 1
Reichel 0 1 1
Suter 1 0 1
Yawney 0 1 1
San Jose: 2 Power play: 9-1
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Evason 0 1 1
Garpenlov 0 1 1
Gaudreau 0 1 1
Kisio 1 0 1
Odgers 0 1 1
Zmolek 1 0 1
-----------------------------------------
Pittsburgh 0 3 2--5
Quebec 2 1 0--3
First period
1, Quebec, Kamensky 15 (Huffman) 6:05.
2, Quebec, Young 27 (Lapointe, Huffman) 16:52.
Second period
3, Pittsburgh, Mullen 29 (Lemieux, Murphy) 3:54.
4, Pittsburgh, Lemieux 60 (Tocchet, U.Samuelsson) 5:07.
5, Pittsburgh, Lemieux 61 (Tocchet, Stevens) 8:12.
6, Quebec, Young 28 (Sundin, Kovalenko) pp, 14:52.
Third period
7, Pittsburgh, Tippett 4 (unassisted) sh, 3:52.
8, Pittsburgh, Tippett 5 (McEachern, Mullen) 8:25.
Pittsburgh: 5 Power play: 1-0 Special goals: sh: 1 Total: 1
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Lemieux 2 1 3
McEachern 0 1 1
Mullen 1 1 2
Murphy 0 1 1
Samuelsson U 0 1 1
Stevens 0 1 1
Tippett 2 0 2
Tocchet 0 2 2
Quebec: 3 Power play: 4-1
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Huffman 0 2 2
Kamensky 1 0 1
Kovalenko 0 1 1
Lapointe 0 1 1
Sundin 0 1 1
Young 2 0 2
-----------------------------------------
New Jersey 0 0 0--0
Toronto 0 0 1--1
First period
No scoring.
Second period
No scoring.
Third period
1, Toronto, Gilmour 32 (Andreychuk, Anderson) 16:22.
Toronto: 1 Power play: 5-0
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Anderson 0 1 1
Andreychuk 0 1 1
Gilmour 1 0 1
New Jersey: 0 Power play: 3-0
No scoring
-----------------------------------------
Ottawa 1 0 2--3
Hartford 5 1 1--7
First period
1, Ottawa, Maciver 17 (Baker, Luongo) 4:22.
2, Hartford, Kron 11 (Nylander, Gosselin) 5:13.
3, Hartford, Burt 4 (Cassels, Verbeek) 7:59.
4, Hartford, Cunneyworth 4 (Yake, Nylander) 9:59.
5, Hartford, Sanderson 42 (Cassels, Houda) 11:11.
6, Hartford, Verbeek 35 (Cassels, Zalapski) pp, 15:50.
Second period
7, Hartford, Sanderson 43 (Cassels, Zalapski) pp, 18:38.
Third period
8, Hartford, Kron 12 (Poulin, Burt) 4:57.
9, Ottawa, Turgeon 23 (Lamb) 8:57.
10, Ottawa, Baker 17 (Luongo, Maciver) pp, 16:17.
Hartford: 7 Power play: 3-2
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Burt 1 1 2
Cassels 0 4 4
Cunneyworth 1 0 1
Gosselin 0 1 1
Houda 0 1 1
Kron 2 0 2
Nylander 0 2 2
Poulin 0 1 1
Sanderson 2 0 2
Verbeek 1 1 2
Yake 0 1 1
Zalapski 0 2 2
Ottawa: 3 Power play: 7-1
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Baker 1 1 2
Lamb 0 1 1
Luongo 0 2 2
Maciver 1 1 2
Turgeon 1 0 1
-----------------------------------------
Winnipeg 1 3 2--6
Edmonton 1 0 3--4
First period
1, Winnipeg, Tkachuk 27 (Housley, Zhamnov) pp, 14:38.
2, Edmonton, Klima 31 (Ciger, Elik) 16:05.
Second period
3, Winnipeg, King 8 (unassisted) 3:54.
4, Winnipeg, Zhamnov 21 (Selanne) 10:25.
5, Winnipeg, Domi 5 (Selanne, Housley) 18:44.
Third period
6, Edmonton, Manson 15 (unassisted) 10:58.
7, Winnipeg, Eagles 8 (Numminen, Bautin) pp, 14:13.
8, Winnipeg, Zhamnov 22 (Ulanov, Selanne) 15:27.
9, Edmonton, Gelinas 8 (Kravchuk, Ranford) 16:48.
10, Edmonton, Kravchuk 10 (Buchberger) 18:42.
Winnipeg: 6 Power play: 5-2
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Bautin 0 1 1
Domi 1 0 1
Eagles 1 0 1
Housley 0 2 2
King 1 0 1
Numminen 0 1 1
Selanne 0 3 3
Tkachuk 1 0 1
Ulanov 0 1 1
Zhamnov 2 1 3
Edmonton: 4 Power play: 3-0
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Buchberger 0 1 1
Ciger 0 1 1
Elik 0 1 1
Gelinas 1 0 1
Klima 1 0 1
Kravchuk 1 1 2
Manson 1 0 1
Ranford 0 1 1
-----------------------------------------
Chicago 0 3 0 0--3
St. Louis 1 2 0 0--3
First period
1, St. Louis, Shanahan 46 (Janney, Hull) pp, 4:09.
Second period
2, Chicago, Murphy 4 (Chelios, Roenick) pp, 0:50.
3, St. Louis, Shanahan 47 (Hedican, Janney) 1:18.
4, Chicago, Noonan 16 (Murphy, Chelios) pp, 5:24.
5, St. Louis, Bozon 6, ps, 12:13.
6, Chicago, Roenick 43 (Sutter, Murphy) pp, 18:39.
Third period
No scoring.
Overtime
No scoring.
St. Louis: 3 Power play: 4-1 Special goals: pp: 1 ps: 1 Total: 2
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Bozon 1 0 1
Chelios 0 1 1
Hedican 0 1 1
Hull 0 1 1
Janney 0 2 2
Murphy 0 1 1
Shanahan 2 0 2
Chicago: 3 Power play: 3-3
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Chelios 0 2 2
Murphy 1 2 3
Noonan 1 0 1
Roenick 1 1 2
Sutter 0 1 1
-----------------------------------------
Montreal 0 1 2--3
NY Islanders 0 2 0--2
First period
No scoring.
Second period
1, Montreal, Brunet 10 (Carbonneau, Daigneault) 4:39.
2, NY Islanders, Turgeon 51 (Thomas, Kurvers) pp, 9:14.
3, NY Islanders, Mullen 16 (unassisted) 15:13.
Third period
4, Montreal, Bellows 38 (Desjardins, Dipietro) 3:01.
5, Montreal, Damphousse 38 (Desjardins, Bellows) pp, 10:11.
Montreal: 3 Power play: 5-1
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Bellows 1 1 2
Brunet 1 0 1
Carbonneau 0 1 1
Daigneault 0 1 1
Damphousse 1 0 1
Desjardins 0 2 2
Dipietro 0 1 1
NY Islanders: 2 Power play: 5-1
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Kurvers 0 1 1
Mullen 1 0 1
Thomas 0 1 1
Turgeon 1 0 1
-----------------------------------------
Minnesota 2 1 0--3
Los Angeles 0 0 0--0
First period
1, Minnesota, Dahlen 33 (unassisted) 2:34.
2, Minnesota, Courtnall 33 (Dahlen, Modano) pp, 9:30.
Second period
3, Minnesota, McPhee 14 (Sjodin, Hatcher) pp, 7:24.
Third period
No scoring.
Minnesota: 3 Power play: 11-2
Scorer G A Pts
--------------- --- --- ---
Courtnall 1 0 1
Dahlen 1 1 2
Hatcher 0 1 1
McPhee 1 0 1
Modano 0 1 1
Sjodin 0 1 1
Los Angeles: 0 Power play: 5-0
No scoring
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4583 | From: DonH@cup.portal.com (Don - Hirschfeld)
Subject: Re: MS-Windows graphics viewer?
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Lines: 7
Check out Image Pals v1.2 from U-Lead (until May, special $99 intro price,
310-523-9393). It has the basic image processing tools for all major formats,
does screen grabbing, and allows all your image files to be calalogged into
a thumbnail database. It's great!
Don
|
4584 | From: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev)
Subject: Re: Licensing of public key implementations
Reply-To: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de
Organization: Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg
Lines: 23
strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
> I will provide one hint: it is reported that RSA expressed puzzlement (at
> their conference) that nobody has asked for permission to use RIPEM to
> write a PGP-compatible program.
This actually supports Bill's speculation - IF there is a backdoor in
RSAREF and IF PKP is supported secretly by the NSA, then it is more
than natural that they will welcome ANY public-key implementation that
uses RSAREF and will strongly oppose themselves against ANY
implementation that doesn't.
I personally cannot see how one could put a backdoor in a
long-precision modular arithmetic library that comes in source, but,
of course, the fact that -I- cannot see it means nothing...
Regards,
Vesselin
--
Vesselin Vladimirov Bontchev Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg
Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN
< PGP 2.2 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C
e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
|
4585 | From: PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Subject: Re: Need info on 43: 1 and suicide for refutation
Lines: 85
Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education
Distribution: usa
In article <1qmuv8INNl8s@dns1.NMSU.Edu> loki@acca.nmsu.edu (Entropic Destroyer) writes:
>The following is quoted from the tail end of a (rather condescending)
>article about Paxton Quigley, that appeared in US Snooze and World Lies,
>(sorry... i think it was in the wall street journal...)
>and was repeated in the Colorado (people's) Daily, a student newspaper
>at the University of Colorado at Boulder.
>
>"A study of residential gunsot deaths in King County, Wash., found that
>a gun in the home was 43 times more likely to be used to kill its owner,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>spouse, a friend, or child than to kill an intruder.
The "used to kill" is the heart of the misinformation. It's one
of those technically accurate phrasings that conveys the wrong impression.
What Mr. Quiqley is more than aware of, I'm sure, is that when people
read this they think violent arguments where one member of the family
grabs a gun and shoots another, thereby creating a tragic situation
which could easily have been avoided had the gun not been there, or
a tragic accident, especially involving a child.
Unfortunately, that's not the way things stack up. The majority
of that 43 "times" (37 I believe) are suicides. That is, someone
intentionally took a firearm and shot themselves intending to kill
themselves. And why it's popular to try and blame suicides on guns,
the evidence doesn't support this. Internal studies, as well as
comparative studies with other countries, indicate that cultural
factors far outweigh whether a person will kill themselves or not.
(Japan, for instance, has a slightly higher rate than the U.S. There
people jump off buildings.)
According to the National Crime Survey, 40% of violent crime
is commited by "non-strangers," which mistakenly has been generalized
regarding the King County study to mean, "Friends and family." That
is, Mr. Quigley, and others who quote this statistic, are banking on
the mental image that a "Friend, family member, or child," equates
to a loving relationship, and that it was cut short in a moment of
anger. Unfortunately, all too often husbands beat and kill wives,
children assault parents, or vice-versa. Most rapes are commited by
someone known to the victim, for instance. Essentially, that a gun
was used against a "friend" or family member doesn't mean they
weren't trying to hurt the other person. Crime is highest among
poor urban families, and those are also the areas most "at risk"
for family problems, especially violent ones. A son in a gang may
not be as loving toward his parents if they disapprove than a suburban
kid might.
Finally, it hinges on the fallacy that a dead intruder is the
only value of a self-defense firearm. Using the minimum figures I
worked out using the NCS I got about an 80:1 ratio between deadly
self-defenses (justifiable homicides) and with-gun self-defenses.
Between the FBI Uniform Crime report and the NCS there's an enormous
amount of data and anybody with the calculator can crunch the numbers.
As such it is incorrect to assume that a dead body is the only valid
means of determining the success of such a defense, since according
to the NCS (which has been considered by many to seriously under-report
defenses) there were far more successful with-gun defenses than intruders
killed.
Not it also confines itself to the home, where attack by a "friend
or family member" is far, far more likely, and excludes any defense
which occurs outside the home. (I believe a large number occur in
businesses.)
>Studies by the
>Western Psychiatric Institute, in Pittsburgh, found that the mere presence
>of a gun in the home sharply incresases the likelihood a family member
>will commit suicide, even in the absence of psychiatric illness."
I have not seen the exact data for this, so I can't comment. I
will point out Canada's and Japan's suicide rate as indications that
culture far more than firearm availability affect suicide rates.
There was also a comparative study between Canada (for what
it's worth, considering the difficulty of comparing across cultural
lines) published in the New England Journal of Medicine (I can get the
exact cite if you need it) that concluded that restrictive firearm laws
would not significantly impact the over-all suicide rate.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Veal Univ. of Tenn. Div. of Cont. Education Info. Services Group
PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu - "I still remember the way you laughed, the day
your pushed me down the elevator shaft; I'm beginning to think you don't
love me anymore." - "Weird Al"
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4586 | Subject: So what is Maddi?
From: madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann)
Organization: Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
Lines: 12
As I was created in the image of Gaea, therefore I must
be the pinnacle of creation, She which Creates, She which
Births, She which Continues.
Or, to cut all the religious crap, I'm a woman, thanks.
And it's sexism that started me on the road to atheism.
--
Maddi Hausmann madhaus@netcom.com
Centigram Communications Corp San Jose California 408/428-3553
Kids, please don't try this at home. Remember, I post professionally.
|
4587 | From: dppeak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (David Paul Peak)
Subject: FOR SALE: TelePort ADB 2400bps Modem w/Send Fax
Organization: Kansas State University
Lines: 12
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu
I am selling my Global Village Teleport 2400 bps modem w/send fax. It
connects to the mac through the ADB port. The software for sending
faxes is included. I am asking $90. However, I will consider other
reasonable offers. Please E-Mail me.
Dave
Dave Peak
Internet -- dppeak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
AOL -- skibum7
|
4588 | From: ruegg@med.unc.edu (Robert G. Ruegg)
Subject: Re: Eugenics
Summary: errata
Keywords: gene pool; wisdom; virtue
Nntp-Posting-Host: naples.med.unc.edu
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Lines: 7
Thanks to Tarl Neustaedter of MA for kindly letting me know that my
reference in prior post to Orwell and "1984" should probably have been to
Huxley and "Brave New World."
Sorry, Al.
Bob (ruegg@med.unc.edu)
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4589 | From: mogal@deadhead.asd.sgi.com (Joshua Mogal)
Subject: Re: Hollywood Hits, Virtual Reality
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Lines: 137
NNTP-Posting-Host: deadhead.asd.sgi.com
Sorry I missed you Raymond, I was just out in Dahlgren last month...
I'm the Virtual Reality market manager for Silicon Graphics, so perhaps I
can help a little.
In article <1993Mar17.185725.13487@relay.nswc.navy.mil>,
rchui@nswc-wo.nswc.navy.mil (Raymond Chui) writes:
|> Hello, the real reality. Our agency started to express interest in
|> virtual reality(VR). So far, we do not know much about VR. All we
|> know about are the Hollywood movies "The Terminater 2" and "Lawnmover
|> Man". We also know something about VR from ABC news magazine and
|> Computer Graphics World magazine.
Unfortunately, while SGI systems were used to create the special effects
for both Terminator 2 and Lawnmower Man, those are film-quality computer
graphics, rendered in software and written to film a frame at a time. Each
frame of computer animation for those films took hours to render on
high-end parallel processing computer systems. Thus, that level of graphics
would be difficult, if not impossible, to acheive in real time (30 frames
per second).
|>
|> We certainly want to know more about VR. Who are the leading
|> companies,
|> agencies, universities? What machines support VR (i.e. SGI, Sun4,
|> HP-9000, BIM-6000, etc.)?
It depends upon how serious you are and how advanced your application is.
True immersive visualization (VR), requires the rendering of complex visual
databases at anywhere from 20 to 60 newly rendered frames per second. This
is a similar requirement to that of traditional flight simulators for pilot
training. If the frame rate is too low, the user notices the stepping of
the frames as they move their head rapidly around the scene, so the motion
of the graphics is not smooth and contiguous. Thus the graphics system
must be powerful enough to sustain high frame rates while rendering complex
data representations.
Additionally, the frame rate must be constant. If the system renders 15
frames per second at one point, then 60 frames per second the next (perhaps
due to the scene in the new viewing direction being simpler than what was
visible before), the user can get heavily distracted by the medium (the
graphics computer) rather than focusing on the data. To maintain a constant
frame rate, the system must be able to run in real-time. UNIX in general
does not support real-time operation, but Silicon Graphics has modified the
UNIX kernel for its multi-processor systems to be able to support real-time
operation, bypassing the usual UNIX process priority-management schemes.
Uniprocessor systems running UNIX cannot fundamentally support real-time
operation (not Sun SPARC10, not HP 700 Series systems, not IBM RS-6000, not
even SGI's uniprocessor systems like Indigo or Crimson). Only our
multiprocessor Onyx and Challenge systems support real-time operation due
to their Symmetric Multi-Processing (SMP) shared-memory architecture.
From a graphics perspective, rendering complex virtual environments
requires advanced rendering techniques like texture mapping and real-time
multi-sample anti-aliasing. Of all of the general purpose graphics systems
on the market today, only Crimson RealityEngine and Onyx RealityEngine2
systems fully support these capabilities. The anti-aliasing is particularly
important, as the crawling jagged edges of aliased polygons is an
unfortunate distraction when immersed in a virtual environment.
|> What kind of graphics languages are used with VR
|> (GL, opengl, Phigs, PEX, GKS, etc.)?
You can use the general purpose graphics libraries listed above to develop
VR applications, but that is starting at a pretty low level. There are
off-the- shelf software packages available to get you going much faster,
being targeted directly at the VR application developer. Some of the most
popular are (in no particular order):
- Division Inc. (Redwood City, CA) - dVS
- Sens8 Inc. (Sausalito, CA) - WorldToolKit
- Naval Postgraduate School (Monterey, CA) - NPSnet (FREE!)
- Gemini Technology Corp (Irvine, CA) - GVS Simation Series
- Paradigm Simulation Inc. (Dallas, TX) - VisionWorks, AudioWorks
- Silicon Graphics Inc. (Mountain View,CA) - IRIS Performer
There are some others, but not off the top of my head...
|> What companies are making
|> interface devices for VR (goggles or BOOM (Binocular Omni-Orientational
|> Monitor), hamlets, gloves, arms, etc.)?
There are too many to list here, but here is a smattering:
- Fake Space Labs (Menlo Park,CA) - BOOM
- Virtual Technologies Inc. (Stanford, CA) - CyberGlove
- Digital Image Design (New York, NY) - The Cricket (3D input)
- Kaiser Electro Optics (Carlsbad, CA) - Sim Eye Helmet Displays
- Virtual Research (Sunnyvale, CA) - Flight Helmet display
- Virtual Reality Inc. (Pleasantville,NY) - Head Mtd Displays, s/w
- Software Systems (San Jose, CA) - 3D Modeling software
- etc., etc., etc.
|> What are those company's
|> addresses and phone numbers? Where we can get a list name of VR
|> experts
|> and their phone numbers and Email addresses?
Read some of the VR books on the market:
- Virtual Reality - Ken Pimental and Ken Texiera (sp?)
- Virtual Mirage
- Artificial Reality - Myron Kreuger
- etc.
Or check out the newsgroup sci.virtual_worlds
Feel free to contact me for more info.
Regards,
Josh
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4590 | From: haase@meediv.lanl.gov (Peter Haase)
Subject: Re: Upgrading PB170 Memory
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Lines: 18
In article <1993Apr17.185806.7216@ncar.ucar.edu>, bill@lhotse.hao.ucar.edu
(Bill Roberts) wrote:
>
> I have one of the original Powerbook 170's (with 4Mb of Ram) and find
> that 4Mb is a drag when trying to do my work. So, what is the best way
> to get the maximum RAM for this unit, and what's it going to cost me?
> I'm hoping I can get the latest and best info from real users by posting
> to this group.
Well Bill, There are 2MB soldered on the logic board and 2MB in the RAM
expansion slot giving you 4MB. The only thing you can do to upgrade to
the maximum Ram is to remove the 2MB expansion and install a 6MB expansion,
giving you a total of 8MB which is the max on a 170....You can try calling
TechWorks, or any other memory vendors out of MacWeek, MacWorld...etc....
<==================================+==================================>
Peter Haase + Internet: haase@meediv.lanl.gov
Network Manager + Los Alamos National Laboratory
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4591 | From: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev)
Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Mr. Clinton
Reply-To: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de
Organization: Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg
Lines: 26
strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
> Here's a simple way to convert the Clipper proposal to an unexceptionable
> one: Make it voluntary.
As usually, you are not reading. The proposal -does- say that it is a
"voluntary program". This doesn't make it more desirable, though...
> That is--you get high quality secure NSA classified technology if you agree
> to escrow your key. Otherwise you are on your own.
"Secure"? How do you know? Because NSA is trying to make you believe it?
"Trust us." Yeah, right.
"Otherwise you are on your own"? How do you know that tomorrow they
will not outlaw encrypring devices that don't use "their" technology?
Because they are promising you? Gee, they are not doing even that -
read the proposal again.
Regards,
Vesselin
--
Vesselin Vladimirov Bontchev Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg
Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN
< PGP 2.2 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C
e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
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4592 | From: cr@cs.strath.ac.uk (Chris Reid)
Subject: Quadra 700 memory upgrade
Organization: Univ. of Strathclyde, Glasgow, UK
Lines: 18
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: simpson-06.cs.strath.ac.uk
Hi folks,
what exactly is the maximum memory I can put in
a Quadra 700. My manual says 20MB (with 4 x 4MB SIMMs),
but MacWarehouse and the like advertise 16MB SIMMs to
give it a total of 68MB. Who's wrong? Has anybody got
68MB?
Thanks,
Chris
__________________________________________________________________________
Chris Reid <cr@cs.strath.ac.uk>
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4593 | From: wgs1@Isis.MsState.Edu (Walter G. Seefeld)
Subject: Klipsch KG1 speakers Like New - $200 + shipping
Nntp-Posting-Host: isis.msstate.edu
Organization: Mississippi State University
Distribution: na
Lines: 10
One pair of kg1's in Oak finish with black grilles.
Includes original packaging.
$200 + shipping Firm.
--
Walter G. Seefeld | By the dawn's early light,
940 N. Jackson St. #1A | By all I know is right,
Starkville, MS 39759 | We're going to reap what we have sown.
N5QXR | -Jackson Brown
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4594 | From: erc@plitvice.berkeley.edu (Eric Ng)
Subject: Sega Genesis plus 9 sports games for sale
Nntp-Posting-Host: plitvice.berkeley.edu
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Lines: 23
FOR SALE
1 Sega Genesis (including all cables, manuals, boxes)
1 controller
9 games, including all manuals and boxes:
Sonic the Hedgehog
Road Rash
John Madden Football '92
N.H.L. Hockey
Sportstalk Baseball
Bulls vs. Lakers and the N.B.A. Playoffs
John Madden Football '93
N.H.L.P.A. Hockey
Super Monaco GP II
All of the above for $300 (or best offer); price includes UPS COD
shipping.
Send e-mail to erc@zabriskie.berkeley.edu if interested.
-eric
--
eric ng erc@zabriskie.berkeley.edu ...!ucbvax!zabriskie!erc
|
4595 | From: 8725157m@levels.unisa.edu.au
Subject: Cold gas roll control thruster tanks
Organization: University of South Australia
Lines: 5
Does anyone know how to size cold gas roll control thruster tanks
for sounding rockets?
Thanks in advance,
Jim.
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4596 | From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Subject: Re: New Member
Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau
Lines: 20
In article <C5HIEw.7s1@portal.hq.videocart.com>,
dfuller@portal.hq.videocart.com (Dave Fuller) wrote:
> He is right. Just because an event was explained by a human to have been
> done "in the name of religion", does not mean that it actually followed
> the religion. He will always point to the "ideal" and say that it wasn't
> followed so it can't be the reason for the event. There really is no way
> to argue with him, so why bother. Sure, you may get upset because his
> answer is blind and not supported factually - but he will win every time
> with his little argument. I don't think there will be any postings from
> me in direct response to one of his.
Hey! Glad to have some serious and constructive contributors in this
newsgroup. I agree 100% on the statement above, you might argue with
Bobby for eons, and he still does not get it, so the best thing is
to spare your mental resources to discuss more interesting issues.
Cheers,
Kent
---
sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
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4597 | From: howland@noc.arc.nasa.gov (Curt Howland)
Subject: Re: dogs
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Lines: 27
In article <MS-C.735160298.1147902781.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>,
mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin) writes:
|> I'm a biker and a dog-lover.
No wonder bikers have such a horrid reputation.
Go find a HUMAN!
|> The interesting thing about dogs is that body language communicates a great
|> deal to them. The more effective you are at communicating body language, the
|> less you actually have to do.
I agree completely. Unfortunately, the majority
of my feelings, before I can even start to think
rationally abhout the dog that is trying to kill
me, are fear.
When there's been a moment to set up, like you
said "a bit down the road" or whatever, I've
never had a problem with dogs.
---
Curt Howland "Ace" DoD#0663 EFF#569
howland@nsipo.nasa.gov '82 V45 Sabre
Meddle not in the afairs of Wizards,
for it makes them soggy and hard to re-light.
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4598 | From: spl2@po.cwru.edu (Sam Lubchansky)
Subject: Re: Joe Robbie Stadium "NOT FOR BASEBALL"
Article-I.D.: po.spl2.114.734131045
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Lines: 27
NNTP-Posting-Host: b61644.student.cwru.edu
In article <1993Apr6.025027.4846@oswego.Oswego.EDU> iacs3650@Oswego.EDU (Kevin Mundstock) writes:
>From: iacs3650@Oswego.EDU (Kevin Mundstock)
>Subject: Joe Robbie Stadium "NOT FOR BASEBALL"
>Date: 6 Apr 93 02:50:27 GMT
>Did anyone notice the words "NOT FOR BASEBALL" printed on the picture
>of Joe Robbie Stadium in the Opening Day season preview section in USA
>Today? Any reason given for this?
>
I would assume that the words (I saw the picture) indicated that those
SEATS will not be available for baseball games. If you look at the picture
of the diamond in the stadium, in relation to the areas marked "NOT FOR
BASEBALL", those seats just look terrible for watching baseball. Now, if
they should happen to reach the post-season, I would imagine that they
would consider opening some of those seats up, but that is surely a worry
of the future.
Sam Lubchansky spl2@po.cwru.edu
"In the champion, people see what they'd like to be. In the loser,
they see what they actually are, and they treat him with scorn."
"Sugary condiments secure initial pleasure, but fermented grain is
decidedly more parsimonious of time."
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4599 | From: georgeh@gjhsun (George H)
Subject: Re: President Trophy winner missing playoffs ???
Organization: Michigan State University
Lines: 17
NNTP-Posting-Host: gjhsun.cl.msu.edu
jstrangi@hora.seas.upenn.edu (Jim Strangio) writes:
>In article <13APR93.17376172.0059@VM1.MCGILL.CA> CCDB@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CCDB000) writes:
>When was the last time a President's Trophy winner fell to last place
>the following year? A long time, I'd bet.
>--
Well I think it in 1969 the Montreal Canadians finished 1st (although
there was no President's cup in those days) and missed the playoffs
in 1970. I do recall that the 1970 playoff picture wasn't decided until
the final day, when the NY Rangers defeated the RedWings. The tie-breaker was
the number of goals for (if I remember correctly), so the Rangers played
with an empty net for the entire game. Some Hab loyalists accused
the Wings of 'throwing' the game to keep them out, but as I recall,
Gordie and Delvecchio had the flu, so coach Sid Abel sat them out,
and the Rangers swarmed the RedWings most of the night.
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