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6000 | From: mikey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Strider)
Subject: Re: Guns GONE. Good Riddance !
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
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NNTP-Posting-Host: louie.cc.utexas.edu
jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
:You are loosing.
"Loosing"? Well, I'll avoid the spelling flames and see if this person
can make up for it.
:There is no question about it.
Oh, there's LOTS of question about it. People are becoming more aware each
day that their rights are being threatened, so much so that NRA membership
is growing at the rate of nearly 2,000 per *day*. We are slowly gaining
our rightful voice, despite the biases, prejudices, and veiled motives of
the liberal media and anti-gun politicians. We will win.
:Of those who vote, your cause is considered an abomination. No matter
:how hard you try, public opinion is set against the RKBA.
What do you base this on? Some highly-skewed poll conducted by NBC News?
The same group who faked GM pickup explosions just to make "news"? Right.
:This is the end. By the finish of the Clinton administration, your
:RKBA will be null and void. Tough titty.
It is true that we face even greater obstacles to our rights, betrayed by
those lying politicians who swear an oath to protect the Constitution "from
all enemies, both foreign and domestic." But the People will take only so
many lies and deceits.
:You had better discover ways to make do without firearms. The number of
:cases of firearms abuses has ruined your cause. There is nothing you
:can do about it. Those who live by the sword shall die by it.
Then the criminals who live by murder shall die by it. Honest, law-abiding
citizens need have no fear on that count. You, however, will evidently
die by (or at least in) ignorance. And the number of firearms self-defenses
shall spell out our ultimate victory.
:The press is against you, the public (the voting public) is against
:you, the flow of history is against you ... this is it !
The flow of history was against the Founding Fathers, but they managed to
successfully form the first real free republic on the face of this planet,
a republic that has become the model for all others to follow. The press
is against us, for its own selfish motivations. And the people will soon
realize the depths of deceit being spread by that media, and nullify its
ill-directed power. The People are with us.
:Surrender your arms. Soon enough, officers will be around to collect
:them. Resistance is useless. They will overwhelm you - one at a time.
:Your neighbors will not help you. They will consider you more if an
:immediate threat than the abstract 'criminal'.
I shall never submit to an illegal, unConstitutional police state. I will
take my own vow to uphold the Constitution, and I shall defend it and my
country against a tyrannical government gone mad, should it become
necessary.
:Too fucking bad. You have gone the way of the KKK. Violent solutions
:are passe'. Avoid situations which encourage criminals. Then you will
:be as safe as possible. Such as it is ...
I will not be your sacrificial sheep, and I shall not bow down to you or
anyone else who seeks to control my life. Being an unarmed target is the
SUREST way of encouraging criminals, and believe me, I shall avoid it as
much as possible. Then I shall be as safe as possible. I will answer
with violence only when no other option exists, but I shall surely answer.
Mike Ruff
--
- This above all, to thine own S T R I D E R mikey@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
- self be true. --Polonius * * ***** ** * * **** ***** *** * *
Those who would sacrifice essential * * * * * * * * * * ** *
liberties for a little temporary * * * **** * * **** * * * * *
safety deserve neither liberty * * * * * * * * * * * **
nor safety. --B. Franklin **** * * * **** **** * *** * *
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6001 | From: npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar)
Subject: Re: For JOHS@dhhalden.no (3) - Last
Nntp-Posting-Host: bmdhh299
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
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Pete Young, on the Tue, 20 Apr 93 08:29:21 GMT wibbled:
: Nick Pettefar (npet@bnr.ca) wrote:
: : Tsk, tsk, tsk. Another newbie bites the dust, eh? They'll learn.
: Newbie. Sorry to disappoint you, but as far as the Internet goes I was
: in Baghdad while you were still in your dads bag.
Is this bit funny?
: Most of the people who made this group interesting 3 or 4 years ago
: are no longer around and I only have time to make a random sweep
: once a week or so. Hence I missed most of this thread.
I'm terribly sorry.
: Based on your previous postings, apparently devoid of humour, sarcasm,
: wit, or the apparent capacity to walk and chew gum at the same time, I
: assumed you were serious. Mea culpa.
I know, I know. Subtlety is sort of, you know, subtle, isn't it.
: Still, it's nice to see that BNR are doing so well that they can afford
: to overpay some contractors to sit and read news all day.
That's foreign firms for you.
..and a touchy newbie, at that.
What's the matter, too much starch in the undies?
--
Nick (the Considerate Biker) DoD 1069 Concise Oxford None Gum-Chewer
M'Lud.
Nick Pettefar, Contractor@Large. /~~~\ "Teneo tuus intervallum"
Cuurrently incarcerated at BNR, {-O^O-} npet@bnr.ca '86 BMW K100RS "Kay"
Maidenhead, The United Kingdom. \ o / Pres. PBWASOH(UK), BS 0002
(-
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6002 | From: bo@horus.cem.msu.EDU (Bo Peng)
Subject: Re: More Diamond SS 24X
Organization: Michigan State University
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NNTP-Posting-Host: horus.cem.msu.edu
From article <1993Apr20.195853.16179@samba.oit.unc.edu>, by dil.admin@mhs.unc.edu (Dave Laudicina):
> Has anyone experienced a faint shadow at all resolutions using this
> card. Is only in Windows. I have replaced card and am waiting on
> latest drivers. Also have experienced General Protection Fault Errors
> in WSPDPSF.DRV on Winword Tools Option menu and in WINFAX setup.
> I had a ATI Ultra but was getting Genral Protection Fault errors
> in an SPSS application. These card manufactures must have terrible
> quality control to let products on the market with so many bugs.
> What a hassle. Running on Gateway 2000 DX2/50.
> Thx Dave L
>
>
You're using drivers version 2.02 or earlier. The latest is 2.03, available
from their BBS or by snailmail. It at least fixes the WfW problem.
The reason I wanted to reply in public instead of private mail is because
of following: I talked to their tech support a few days ago and was told
that I can expect a new version near the end of the month. Which should be
about now...
However, I have a problem when switching back from a DOS session in standard
mode. Apparently they don't know of this problem and seem to be surprised
why anybody would want to use standard mode at all.
It's a great card for the price, at least when I bought it. Now there may be
better alternatives.
Bo Peng
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6003 | From: bhjelle@carina.unm.edu ()
Subject: Re: Barbecued foods and health risk
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
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NNTP-Posting-Host: carina.unm.edu
In article <C5sqv8.EDB@acsu.buffalo.edu> SFEGUS@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>In article <79857@cup.portal.com>
>mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes:
>
>>
>>No, there is something called the "Delany Amendment" which makes carcinogenic
>>food additives illegal in any amount. This was passed by Congress in the
>
>I think what we have to keep in mind is that even though it may be illegal to
>commercially produce/sell food with carcinogenic substances, it is not illegal
>for people to do such to their own food (smoking, etc). Is this true?
>
Whoa. What did you say your name was? Address, SSN? Smoking foods, eh?
I think the gov't would like to know about this...
Brian
:-)
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6004 | Subject: Re: Cirrus Logic 5426 Graph Card
From: gardner_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (andy gardner)
Reply-To: gardner_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Lines: 37
In article <1qms3c$37t@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>, wong@cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfgang Jung) writes:
>After setting up Windows for using my Cirrus Logic 5426 VLB GraphicsCard
>It moved a normal Window from one place to another...
>...What I was wondering why is it not using the BITBLT Engine which
>is suuposed to be on the Chip.
>How are the experiences here..
>Have I done something wrong ?
The 5426 has its own set of drivers. You may be using the
drivers intended for the 5420 or 5422 by mistake.
Be sure you have the 5426 driver version 1.2
>(I installed the MSWIN 3.1 MultiResolution drivers which where supplied
>with the Card ?!)
Don't quote me on this one, but I'd steer clear of the
multi resolution driver that allows you to change resolution
without exiting Windows. I think it's buggy.
>Also if there are new(hopefully faster) drrivers around I would love to
>how to get hold of them :-) (ftp or whatsoever :-) )
Version 1.3 drivers are due to be release by Cirrus soon.
Unfortunately, their not available via FTP, you have to dial
up their BBS in the USA. I do this from NZ using a 14.4k modem
to cut down on phone bills. It took me around 7 minutes to
download the v1.2 driver.
Good Luck,
Andy Gardner,
Wellington, New Zealand
Te Whanga-nui-a-Tara, Aotearoa
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6005 | From: warlord@MIT.EDU (Derek Atkins)
Subject: Re: Screw the people, crypto is for hard-core hackers & spooks only
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Lines: 42
NNTP-Posting-Host: deathtongue.mit.edu
In-reply-to: jhart@agora.rain.com's message of Tue, 20 Apr 1993 06:39:11 GMT
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Why do we hackers care about the Clipper chip? Do we give a shit
> about anybody's privacy accept our own? And perhaps not even our
> own; are we so smart that we always know when we're talking to
> somebody who has a wiretap on their phone?
I find this a very disturbing view! Yes, we DO care about EVERYONE's
privacy... Even if "they" don't know it. What happens if the gov't
starts creating legislation such that the Clipper and such
technologies become the only "legal" encryption forms? What happens
when the Clipper is the *ONLY* type of encryption chips available to
the masses?
Sure, you might have your own method of encryption, but if you don't
have anyone else to talk to, what use is it? You can't assume that
EVERYONE will be as open as you appear to be about encryption.
The point here is not the specific instance of the Wiretap Chip.
Rather, it is like having the government telling you that they want a
copy of your house key, safe-deposit box keys, etc., and telling you
that "they wont use them unless its totally neccessary." I sure
wouldn't want that. Why should encryption be any different?
- -derek
PGP 2 key available upon request on the key-server:
pgp-public-keys@toxicwaste.mit.edu
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--
Derek Atkins, MIT '93, Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
Secretary, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB)
MIT Media Laboratory, Speech Research Group
warlord@MIT.EDU PP-ASEL N1NWH
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6006 | From: C70A000 <C70A@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: Recommendation for a front tire.
Lines: 15
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
In article <1qfkqhINN1s7@rodan.UU.NET> smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield) writes:
>Yes, my front tire is all but dead. It has minimal tread left, so it's
>time for a new one. Any recommendations on a good tire in front? I'm
>riding on an almost brand new ME55A in back.
Stick an ME33 on the front. I've got a Laser on the front of my GPz,
and it has been a fantastic tire. Best front tire I've ever had.
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Graeme Weir DoD #9191 Fido 1:255/14.4 C70A@UNB.CA |
| University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, NB, Canada |
| Damn the box jockeys! FULL SPEED AHEAD! |
| Live to Flame -- Flame to Live |
| '84 GPz 1100, '76 KZ900, '76 KZ750, '91 Trek 8000 MTB |
+------------------------------------------------------------------+
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6007 | From: markhof@ls12r.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Ingolf Markhof)
Subject: Re: Title for XTerm
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Lines: 55
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ls12r.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
Keywords: XTerm
In article <1quh74$r71@irz401.inf.tu-dresden.de>, beck@irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de (Andre Beck) writes:
|>
|> In article <C5oL74.3B1@aeon.in-berlin.de>, thomas@aeon.in-berlin.de (Thomas Wolfram) writes:
|> |> >Hey guys!
|> |> >I work on many stations and would like this name and current logname
|> |> >to be in a title of Xterm when it's open and a machine name only
|> |> >when it's closed. In other words, I want $HOST and $LOGNAME to appear
|> |> >as a title of opened XTerm and $HOST when XTerm is closed.
|> |> >How can I do it?
|> |>
|> |> Almost all window managers (twm, mwm, olwm and their derivates) support
|> |> escape sequences for it. For your purpose put following into your
|> |> .login (if you're using csh or tcsh), for sh you have to modify it.
|> |>
|> |> if ( "$term" == "xterm" ) then
|> |> echo "^[]2;${LOGNAME}@${HOST}^G^[]1;${HOST}^G"
|> |> endif
|> |>
|>
|> 1) This is NOT a feature of the Window Manager but of xterm.
|> 2) This sequences are NOT ANSI compatible, are they ?
|> Does anyone know IF there are compatible sequences for this and what they
|> are ? I would think they are DCS (device control sequence) introduced,
|> but may be a CSI sequence exists, too ?
|> This MUST work on a dxterm (VT and ANSI compatible), it may not work
|> on xterms.
It works on xterms. At least I have no problem with it. - Back to the original
question:
I usually start new xterms by selecting the proper menu entry in my desktop
menu. Here is a sample command:
xterm -sl 999 -n ls12i -title ls12i -e rlogin ls12i &
The -n and -title options give the text for window and icon. As I use the
tcsh (a wonderful extension of the csh), I can do the following:
I have an
alias precmd echo -n '^[]2\;${HOST}:$cwd^G'
in my ~/.tcshrc. This is a special alias for tvtwm. It is executed each time
before printing the prompt. So, I have the current host name and the current
directory path in the title bar of my xterms.
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___/ / P.O. Box 500 500, D-4600 Dortmund 50, F.R. Germany
\ \ / Phone: +49 (231) 755 6142, Fax: +49 (231) 755 6555
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6008 | From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
Subject: Re: Omnipotence (was Re: Speculations)
Organization: sgi
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NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com
In article <1993Apr5.171143.828@batman.bmd.trw.com>, jbrown@batman.bmd.trw.com writes:
|> In article <2942949719.2.p00261@psilink.com>, "Robert Knowles" <p00261@psilink.com> writes:
|> >>DATE: Fri, 2 Apr 1993 23:02:22 -0500
|> >>FROM: Nanci Ann Miller <nm0w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
|> >>
|> >>
|> >>> > 3. Can god uncreate itself?
|> >>>
|> >>> No. For if He did, He would violate His own nature which He cannot do.
|> >>> It is God's nature to Exist. He is, after all, the "I AM" which is
|> >>> a statement of His inherent Existence. He is existence itself.
|> >>> Existence cannot "not-exist".
|> >>
|> >>Then, as mentioned above, he must not be very omnipotent.
|> >>
|>
|> What do you mean by omnipotent here? Do you mean by "omnipotent"
|> that God should be able to do anything/everything? This creates
|> a self-contradictory definition of omnipotence which is effectively
|> useless.
|>
|> To be descriptive, omnipotence must mean "being all-powerful" and
|> not "being able to do anything/everything".
|>
|> Let me illustrate by analogy.
|> Suppose the United States were the only nuclear power on earth. Suppose
|> further that the US military could not effectively be countered by any
|> nation or group of nations. The US has the power to go into any country
|> at any time for any reason to straighten things out as the leaders of the
|> US see fit. The US would be militarily "omnipotent".
Did you check with the Afghans before posting this? They
might disagree.
jon.
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6009 | From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!!
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Lines: 33
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com
In article <C5tBwr.5xI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tomgift@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Gift) writes:
> No, they didn't have electrical power, but no, I don't find the idea of
> Davidians calmly cooking lunch with gas masks on as the FBI knocks the
> buildings down very credible,either.
I don't know how quickly YOU can get a woodstove to heat up from a cold
start, but mine takes about three hours.
> It's not like this whole discussion is relevant. It started when some-
> one made the wholly unsubstantiated allegation that the wood stove ig-
> nited NAPALM the FBI shot into the buildings.
Mox nix. The BD's were prepared to provide their own heat and light,
and were doing so for weeks while the power was out. That means the
compound contained containers of flammable liquids or gases (that could
be busted by a tank intrusion), plus ignition sources, which no one can
tell for sure were all off at the time.
> I'm not a groveling apoligist for the feds, far from it. But wild ac-
> cusations like this are ridiculous and obfuscate legitimate criticism of
> their conduct in this whole affair.
On the contrary. We are proposing alternate scenarios. The people who
are coming to wild conclusions are the feds, who are absolutely positive
how the fire started, even though none of them were in a position to
see it, either (and the stories they "hear" from their prisoners changes
hourly).
--
cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company,
OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
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6010 | From: neff123@garnet.berkeley.edu (Stephen Kearney)
Subject: Re: Is Microsoft Windows really and Ope
Article-I.D.: agate.1pr6r2$t7c
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Lines: 9
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu
>ALL icons in Program Manager are aliases. Is that explicit
>enough??
Apparently not. Many people complain about the confusion that
results from the filemanager/progman split. It's just a basic
flaw.
Besides, what about the control panel icons? Where are all those
little files?
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6011 | From: peavler@fingal.plk.af.mil (Ninja Gourmet)
Subject: Scarlet Horse of Babylon (was Daemons)
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM
Lines: 20
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: fingal.plk.af.mil
Keywords: dead horse, Horse of Babylon
In article <1qilgnINNrko@lynx.unm.edu>, blowfish@leo.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
|> Its easy...
|> 667 >is< the neighbor of the beast (at 666)-
|> the beast lives at the end of a cul-de-sac.
|> r.
I noticed this dead horse in your Keywords line. Is this the famous scarlet horse
of Babylon that the Beast (that's 666 for you illuminatti) rides on in those
wonderful mediaeval manuscripts. If so, I fear your announcement that the old
girl is dead may be premature. I bet $20 on her to place in the 6th race at The
Downs last Sunday, and she slid in a bad fifth. So she is not dead. She is just
comatose. (like god that way, I suppose).
Ninja Gourmet
Will fight for food.
--
Jim Peavler My opinions do not exist.
peavler@plk.af.mil That is why they are called
Albuquerque, NM MY opinions.
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6012 | From: antond@microsoft.com (Anton Dejong)
Subject: Re: Oakland Oaks Memorabilia
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa
Lines: 13
>There is Ebbets Field Flannels in Seattle, which makes lots of minor and negro
>league jackets and jerseys. These things are REAL spendy (around $200 for a
>jersey) but they are very authentic in look and nicely made.
>
>--->Paul, "long live Steve Bilko and the PCL LA Angels"
Their phone number is 1-800-377-9777. The last catalog shows three
Oaks jerseys: 36 Home, 42 Home, 39 Home - they're each $165.00. All their
merchandise is handmade and is an authentic replica. I own a couple -
and they are excellent. They also have wool caps and jackets. You should
call to get on their mailing list even if you can't afford their prices.
Anton
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6013 | From: bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver)
Subject: Re: DID HE REALLY RISE???
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa
Lines: 85
/(emery)
/The one single historic event that has had the biggest impact on the
/world over the centuries is the resurrection of Jesus.
This is hardly possible, as the majority of people in the world were
born, lived their life, and died, without ever knowing anything about
Christ. The majority of the rest of the world have decided that he
is not who Emery thinks he is.
/(emery)
/Why were the writers of the New Testament documents so convinced that
/Jesus really did rise from the dead?
/We have four gospel accounts.
I am leaving out all "proofs" of Emery's which rely on quoting the
bible as proof. Circular reasoning, etc. There have been occasions
already stated many times for later generations of Xtians to change,
edit, or otherwise alter the bible to fit their political gospel.
And if we accept the bible as true just because the bible says it
is true, then (to be fair) we have to do the same to the Bhagavad-Gita
and the Koran, both of which contradict the bible.
Enough said.
/(emery)
/Yet we have no reason to believe these disciples to be immoral and dishonest.
/We have no historic information that would lead us to the conclusion that
/these people were not God-fearing people who sincerely and whole-heartedly
/believed that the resurrection of their Lord Jesus was a real event.
/And for what gain would they lie? To make a stand at that time meant
/persecution, imprisonment, and perhaps even death.
Again, this is only the biblical account and there is no independent proof
of any of this happening. It just isn't there.
Besides, simply being sincere or willing to die for your faith does not
make your faith correct. There are Muslims dying in Bosnia right now;
does the fact that they are willing to die for Islam mean that Islam is
the correct religion?
(emery)
/History bears out the persecution of Christians. Roman historian, Cornelius
/Tacitus, Govenor of Asia, in A.D. 112, writing of Nero's reign, alluded to
/the torture of Christians in Rome:
All you have proven is that these people were tortured for their faith. That
does not prove that their faith is true or correct; it just means that they
were sincere in their beliefs.
Being willing to die for what you believe doesn't make your belief the truth.
It's not that easy. And minority religions have always suffered torture;
Muslims suffer torture and harassment in India and Bosnia today. All religions
are harassed in China today. You haven't proven anything so far.
/(emery)
/With all the suffering and persecution that it meant to be a believer, it
/would be quite probable that at least one of those in the supposed conspiracy
/would come forward and confess that the whole thing was a big hoax.
Not if they didn't believe that it was a hoax.
/(emery)
/Yet not one did. It seems rather reasonable that the disciples did not make
/up the resurrection but sincerely believed that Jesus had actually risen
/from the dead; especially in light of the sufferings that came upon those
/who believed.
The followers of Muhammad firmly believed in the miracles that the Koran
says Muhammad performed. They were attacked and slaughtered for their
beliefs. They didn't denounce Muhammad or Islam. If you are correct,
then that means Islam is the true faith.
You see how stupid your proofs are?
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6014 | From: mmb@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Burger)
Subject: TV Schedule for Next Week
Distribution: na
Nntp-Posting-Host: lamar.acns.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523
Lines: 20
United States TV Schedule:
April 18 Devils/Islanders at Pittsburgh 1 EST ABC (to Eastern time zone)
April 18 St. Louis at Chicago 12 CDT ABC (to Cent/Mou time zones)
April 18 Los Angeles at Calgary 12 PDT ABC (to Pacific time zone)
April 20 Devils/Islanders at Pittsburgh 7:30 ESPN
April 22 TBA 7:30 ESPN
April 24 TBA 7:30 ESPN
If somebody would send me the CBC/TSN schedule I'll post that as well.
*******************************************************************************
* Mike Burger * My Canada includes, Quebec, Ontario, *
* mmb@lamar.colostate.edu * the Maritimes, the Prairies, and Florida *
* A Beginning Computing TA Stud * four months a year. *
* over 500 students served * --Royal Canadian Air Farce *
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* University of Michigan - 1990 -- Colorado State University - 199? *
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6015 | From: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev)
Subject: Re: Would "clipper" make a good cover for other encryption method?
Reply-To: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de
Organization: Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg
Lines: 17
strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
> Some of the more notorious self-styled dissidents here, for example, have
> already got their heads so high above the tall grass that they'd have little
> chance of getting a clearance.
If there are many as..., er, people in the USA who reason like the
above, then it should not be surprising that the current plot has been
allowed to happen...
Regards,
Vesselin
--
Vesselin Vladimirov Bontchev Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg
Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN
< PGP 2.2 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C
e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
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6016 | Organization: Penn State University
From: <HV0@psuvm.psu.edu>
Subject: Nintendo system + power pad + light gun + games = $80
Lines: 8
Nintendo 8 bit system, power pad, light gun (zapper), 2 controllers
Games: Supermario, duck hunt, power field, and wings.
Asking $80.
Please reply to hv0@psuvm.psu.edu
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6017 | From: payne@crl.dec.com (Andrew Payne)
Subject: WANTED: TCM3105 chips, small quantities
Organization: DEC Cambridge Research Lab
Lines: 16
Does anyone know if a source for the TCM3105 modem chips (as used in the
Baycom and my PMP modems)? Ideally, something that is geared toward
hobbyists: small quantity, mail order, etc.
For years, we've been buying them from a distributor (Marshall) by the
hundreds for PMP kits. But orders have dropped to the point where we can
no longer afford to offer this service. And all of the distributors I've
checked have some crazy minimum order ($100, or so).
I'd like to find a source for those still interested in building PMP kits.
Any suggestions?
--
Andrew C. Payne
DEC Cambridge Research Lab
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6018 | From: jemurray@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John E Murray)
Subject: quality of Catholic liturgy
Organization: The Ohio State University
Lines: 37
I would like the opinion of netters on a subject that has been bothering my
wife and me lately: liturgy, in particular, Catholic liturgy. In the last few
years it seems that there are more and more ad hoc events during Mass. It's
driving me crazy! The most grace-filled aspect of a liturgical tradition is
that what happens is something we _all_ do together, because we all know how to
do it. Led by the priest, of course, which makes it a kind of dialogue we
present to God. But the best Masses I've been to were participatory prayers.
Lately, I think the proportion of participation has fallen, and the proportion
of sitting there and watching, or listening, or generally being told what to do
(which is necessary because no one knows what's happening next) is growing.
Example. Last Sunday (Palm Sunday) we went to the local church. Usually
on Palm Sunday, the congregation participates in reading the Passion, taking
the role of the mob. The theology behind this seems profound--when we say
"Crucify him" we mean it. We did it, and if He came back today we'd do it
again. It always gives me chills. But last week we were "invited" to sit
during the Gospel (=Passion) and _listen_. Besides the Orwellian "invitation",
I was really saddened to have my (and our) little role taken away. This seems
typical of a shift of participation away from the people, and toward the
musicians, readers, and so on. New things are introduced in the course of the
liturgy and since no one knows what's happening, the new things have to be
explained, and pretty soon instead of _doing_ a lot of the Mass we're just
sitting there listening (or spacing out, in my case) to how the Mass is about
to be done. In my mind, I lay the blame on liturgy committees made up of lay
"experts", but that may not be just. I do think that a liturgy committee has a
bias toward doing something rather than nothing--that's just a fact of
bureaucratic life--even though a simpler liturgy may in fact make it easier for
people to be aware of the Lord's presence.
So we've been wondering--are we the oddballs, or is the quality of the Mass
going down? I don't mean that facetiously. We go to Mass every Thursday or
Friday and are reminded of the power of a very simple liturgy to make us aware
of God's presence. But as far as the obligatory Sunday Masses...maybe I should
just offer it up :) Has anyone else noticed declining congregational
participation in Catholic Masses lately?
John Murray
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6019 | From: sun075!Gerry.Palo@uunet.uu.net (Gerry Palo)
Subject: Re: Athiests and Hell
Lines: 110
In article <Apr.30.03.10.22.1993.10056@geneva.rutgers.edu> REXLEX@fnal.fnal.gov writes:
>In article <Apr.29.04.19.17.1993.9069@geneva.rutgers.edu>
>sun075!Gerry.Palo@uunet.uu.net (Gerry Palo) writes:
>
>>Note that in this, perhaps the oldest of the creeds, there is no mention
>>of the danger of hell for non-believers. Likewise there is no mention
>>of the salvation of the believers' soul and its destiny in heaven after
>>death. There is only the resurrection of the body (and it does not say
>>when or how).
>
>You don't go far enough back. If we believe in God and that He did create the
>heavens and the earth and He did create Adam and Eve and that they walked in
>the garden and history flowed from there, if we can agree with that, then would
>you agree that the further back you go the closer you get to people who had a
>stronger memory of who God was and what He said and commanded?
Between Adam and Eve and Golgotha the whole process of the fall of man
occurred. This involved a gradual dimming of consciousness of the spiritual
world. This is discernable in the world outlooks of different peoples through
history. The Greek, for example, could say, "better a beggar in the land
of the living than a king in the land of the dead." (Iliad, I think).
The question of what happens to human beings who died before Christ is
an ever present one with Christians. I am not ready to conscign Adam
or Abraham, or even Cain to eternal damnation. Yet they all died in their
sins, in the Christian sense. The same can be said of the whole of Gentile
humanity, and also of the unrepentant malefactor on the cross next to
him. I do not limit the power of Christ to save even him, through whom
Satan would mock his deed of salvation at the very moment of its fulfillment.
>In my studies
>of the ancient mystery reliegions, I have run across many poems or rituals or
>what nots with the interpretation that those who are of God will be with Him
>via the promised seed but those who rebel will suffer *eternal* life in dieing.
> It was a standard belief back then.
It is possible to experience eternity in a passing moment. The
relationship of eternity to duration is not simply one of indefinitely
extended conditions of Greenwich mean time. It is possible to imagine
an eternity of agony or bliss - or even many of them - in the
spiritual world during the time between earthly death and a new birth.
It was also a standard belief among many peoples that even the righteous
were lost. This again is the result of the loss of the paradisal consciousness
that fled from us after the fall, with our ever increasing involvement with
the sense world.
It would be interesting to share in the results of your studies of ancient
people's ideas of life after death.
> Today we think we know so much and that
>if we could go back in time we could sure teach those people a thing or two.
>But I think that as this age has grown older that it is we who opperate from a
>mist, not those of the older ages.
>
Mankind fell into mist and darkness, and at "the turning point of
time" a new light entered into the world. The light still grows, and
we are developing the eyes with which to see by it. Much new
revelation and growth in under- standing lies before us. Our new
vision and understanding is still very feeble, but it contains
something new that will grow in time to embrace that which is old and
much more as well.
(At this point I should acknowledge openly my debt to the work of Rudolf
Steiner, founder of Anthroposophy, for many insights that have led me to my
views on this subject).
>I have said it before, I'd love to post on this but the vulcan hammer would
>fall. The history to purgatory can be shown from the druids in England to the
>Greeks who pilaged it from the Egyptians who ultimately got it from the
>Babylonian mysteries. And yes, the eastern religions also show many
>similarities. I mean, its black and white. THe writings and the archeological
>finds plainly show its origin and the whys and wherefores of this doctine.
The way you refer to it as "doctrine" puts a modern intellectual coloring
on it. I think it was much less abstract and much more real and spiritually
concrete, a teaching that struck much closer to home than our doctrines or
teachings today can be received.
I am not so ready to attribute widespread notions in antiquity to
simple dispersion from an original source. Even if they were passed
on, the question is, to what extent did they reflect real perception
and experience? The similarity in the midst of great variety of
expression of the different people's ideas of the time immediately
after death testifies to the presence of an underlying reality. In
any case, we study geometry not by reading old manuscripts of Euclid,
but by contemplating the principles themselves.
On the other hand, there is one notion firmly embedded in Christianity
that originated most definitely in a pagan source. The idea that the
human being consists essentially of soul only, and that the soul is
created at birth, was consciously adopted from Aristotle, whose ideas
dominated Christian thought for fifteen hundred years and still does
today. He was at once the father of modern thought and at the same
time lived during that darkened time when the perception of our
eternal spiritual being had grown dim.
>maybe at sometime in the future-
Indeed. I should also clarify that I do not deny that eternal
irrevocable damnation is a real possibility. But the narrow range in
which we conceive of the decisive moment, i.e. after the end of a
single earthly life, is not in my mind sufficient to embrace the
reality, and I think that is why the early creeds were couched in
terms that did not try to spell it out.
>Rex
Gerry (73237.2006@compuserve.com)
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6020 | From: vbv@r2d2.eeap.cwru.edu (Virgilio (Dean) B. Velasco Jr.)
Subject: Re: The arrogance of Christians
Organization: Case Western Reserve Univ. Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Lines: 72
In article <Apr.13.00.08.35.1993.28412@athos.rutgers.edu> caralv@caralv.auto-trol.com (Carol Alvin) writes:
>vbv@r2d2.eeap.cwru.edu (Virgilio (Dean) B. Velasco Jr.) writes:
>>In article <Apr.10.05.32.29.1993.14388@athos.rutgers.edu> caralv@caralv.auto-trol.com (Carol Alvin) writes:
>> > ...
>> >
>> >Are all truths also absolutes?
>> >Is all of scripture truths (and therefore absolutes)?
>> >
>> >If the answer to either of these questions is no, then perhaps you can
>> >explain to me how you determine which parts of Scripture are truths, and
>> >which truths are absolutes.
>>
>> The answer to both questions is yes.
>
>Perhaps we have different definitions of absolute then. To me,
>an absolute is something that is constant across time, culture,
>situations, etc. True in every instance possible. Do you agree
>with this definition? I think you do:
>
>> Similarly, all truth is absolute. Indeed, a non-absolute truth is a
>> contradiction in terms. When is something absolute? When it is always
>> true. Obviously, if a "truth" is not always "true" then we have a
>> contradiction in terms.
Yes, I do agree with your definition. My use of the term "always" is
rather deceptive, I admit.
>A simple example:
>
>In the New Testament (sorry I don't have a Bible at work, and can't
>provide a reference), women are instructed to be silent and cover
>their heads in church. Now, this is scripture. By your definition,
>this is truth and therefore absolute.
Hold it. I said that all of scripture is true. However, discerning
exactly what Jesus, Paul and company were trying to say is not always so
easy. I don't believe that Paul was trying to say that all women should
behave that way. Rather, he was trying to say that under the circumstances
at the time, the women he was speaking to would best avoid volubility and
cover their heads. This has to do with maintaining a proper witness toward
others. Remember that any number of relativistic statements can be derived
from absolutes. For instance, it is absolutely right for Christians to
strive for peace. However, this does not rule out trying to maintain world
peace by resorting to violence on occasion. (Yes, my opinion.)
>Evangelicals are clearly not taking this particular part of scripture
>to be absolute truth. (And there are plenty of other examples.)
>Can you reconcile this?
Sure. The Bible preaches absolute truths. However, exactly what those
truths are is sometimes a matter of confusion. As I said, the Bible does
preach absolute truths. Sometimes those fundamental principles are crystal
clear (at least to evangelicals). Sometimes they are not so clear to
everyone (e.g. should baptism be by full immersion or not, etc). That is
largely because sometimes, it is not explicitly spelled out whether the writers
are speaking to a particular culture or to Christianity as a whole. This is
where scholarship and the study of Biblical contexts comes in.
>It's very difficult to see how you can claim something which is based
>on your own *interpretation* is absolute.
God revealed his Truths to the world, through His Word. It is utterly
unavoidable, however, that some people whill come up with alternate
interpretations. Practically anything can be misinterpreted, especially
when it comes to matters of right and wrong. Care to deny that?
--
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr, Department of Electrical Eng'g and Applied Physics
CWRU graduate student, roboticist-in-training and Q wannabee
"Bullwinkle, that man's intimidating a referee!" | My boss is a
"Not very well. He doesn't look like one at all!" | Jewish carpenter.
|
6021 | From: slyx0@cc.usu.edu
Subject: Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition?
Organization: Utah State University
Lines: 35
>>Between who? Over what? I would be most interested in seeing you
>>provide peer-reviewed non-food-industry-funded citations to articles
>>disputing that MSG has no effects whatsoever.
>
> You mean "asserting". You're being intellectually dishonest (or just
> plain confused), because you're conflating reports which do not necessarily
> have anything to do with each other. Olney's reports would argue a potential
> for problems in human infants, but that's not to say that this says anything
> whatsoever about the use of MSG in most foods, nor does he provide any
> studies in humans which indicate any deleterious effects (for obvious
> reasons.) It says nothing about MSG's contribtion to the phenomenon
> of the "Chinese Restaurant Syndrome". It says nothing about the frequent
> inability to replicate anecdotal reports of MSG sensitivity in the lab.
Okay Mr. Dyer, we're properly impressed with your philosophical skills and
ability to insult people. You're a wonderful speaker and an adept politician.
However, I believe that all you were asked to do, was simply provide scientific
research refuting the work of Olney. I don't think the original poster sought
to start a philisophical debate. she wanted some information. Given a little
effort one could justify that shooting oneself with a .45 before breakfast is a
healthy practice. But we're not particularily interested in what you can
verbally prove/disprove or rationalize. Where's the research? Where are the
studies?
I appoligize if this sounds flamish. I simply would like to see the thread get
back on track.
Lone Wolf
Happy are they who dream dreams,
Ed Philips And pay the price to see them come true.
slyx0@cc.usu.edu
-unknown
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6022 | From: euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Euclid K.)
Subject: Re: accupuncture and AIDS
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 18
aliceb@tea4two.Eng.Sun.COM (Alice Taylor) writes:
>A friend of mine is seeing an acupuncturist and
>wants to know if there is any danger of getting
>AIDS from the needles.
Ask the practitioner whether he uses the pre-sterilized disposable
needles, or if he reuses needles, sterilizing them between use. In the
former case there's no conceivable way to get AIDS from the needles. In
the latter case it's highly unlikely (though many practitioners use the
disposable variety anyway).
euclid
--
Euclid K. standard disclaimers apply
"It is a bit ironic that we need the wave model [of light] to understand the
propagation of light only through that part of the system where it leaves no
trace." --Hudson & Nelson (_University_Physics_)
|
6023 | From: paale@stud.cs.uit.no (Paal Ellingsen)
Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19
Organization: University of Tromsoe
Lines: 17
In article <1r0qsrINNc61@clem.handheld.com>, Jim De Arras writes:
|> Mr. Roby, you are a government sucking heartless bastard. Humans died
|> yesterday, humans who would not have died if the FBI had not taken the actions
|> they did. That is the undeniable truth.
...the question is: for how long? Even if the FBI had done nothing, I guess the
BDs would have committed suicide, but maybe not until hunger and thirst gave them
the choice between sucide or surrender.
The BDs was warned in beforehand about the FBI action. They HAD the chance to
surrender and get a fair trial. No matter who started the fire, the BDs were
responsible for 80+ peole dying. No one else.
--
============================================================================
Paal Ellingsen | Borgensvingen 67/102 | Tlf.: 083 50933
paale@stud.cs.uit.no | 9100 Kvaloeysletta | DATA = Dobbelt Arbeid Til Alle
============================================================================
|
6024 | From: wdwink01@fsrz1.rz.uni-passau.de (WINKELHAKE OLAF)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Info on Asymetrix/Toolbook
Organization: University of Passau - Germany
Lines: 30
NNTP-Posting-Host: pc5.rz.uni-passau.de
In article <1993Apr19.065354.14002@prl.philips.nl> dewinter@prl.philips.nl (Rob de Winter) writes:
>Does anyone know the phone and fax number of the Asymetrix
>Corporation. I am also interested in their e-mail address.
>I would also like to know what the current status of their product Toolbook
>is. I received the last update 1.5 about 1.5 year ago. Are their any new
>developments or is Toolbook slowly dying?
>Regards,
>Rob de Winter.
>--
>*** Nothing beats skiing, if you want to have real fun during holidays. ***
>*** Rob de Winter Philips Research, IST/IT, Building WL-1 ***
>*** P.O. Box 80000, 5600 JA Eindhoven. The Netherlands ***
>*** Tel: +31 40 743621 E-mail: dewinter@prl.philips.nl ***
Rob,
their e-mail adress is support@asymetrix.com
I've heard V.2.0 is in beta.
have a look at bitserv.list.toolb-l - which is a toolbook list.
Regards,
Olaf Winkelhake
|
6025 | From: downey@homer.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Allen B. Downey)
Subject: Re: Speeding ticket from CHP
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Lines: 13
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: homer.cs.berkeley.edu
Paraphrase of initial post:
Can I fight a speeding ticket in court?
My reply:
Fight your ticket : California edition by David Brown 1st ed.
Berkeley, CA : Nolo Press, 1982
The second edition is out (but not in UCB's library). Good luck; let
us know how it goes.
ABD
|
6026 | From: bmoss@grinch.sim.es.com (Brent "Woody" Moss)
Subject: Re: Do trains have radar?
Nntp-Posting-Host: 130.187.200.5
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Lines: 34
In article <x!fvt=b@dixie.com>, jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:
|> hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock) writes:
|>
|>
|> > While taking an extended Easter vacation, I was going north on I-45
|> > somewhere between Centerville, TX and Dallas, TX and I came upon a
|> > train parked on a trestle with its locomotive sitting directly over
|> > the northbound lanes. There appeared to be movement within the cab
|> > and out of curiosity I slowed to 85 to get a better look. Just as I
|> > passed from underneath the trestle, my radar detector went into full
|> > alert - all lights lit and all chirps, beeps, and buzzes going strong.
|> > I thought I had been nailed good but no police materialized.
|>
|> Some, but not all, locomotives have doppler speedometers. The radar head is
|> mounted looking down at the ground (to minimize intereference sent and
|> received) but looking tangentally at a wheel. These are low power units
|> and typically won't trigger radar detectors unless an unusual situation
|> such as yours arises.
|>
|> John
|>
|> --
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This makes sense(radar pointed down), because almost every train I pass head-on that triggers
my radar detector does so more just after I have passed the front of the engine.
I get a little of the reflections as I am approaching and the instant I get to
the side of the first engine the detector receives a fairly strong signal for
a short time. It happens with just about EVERY train I see.
|
6027 | From: cps@generali.harvard.edu (Chris Schaeffer)
Subject: Re: Eugenics
Summary: It will be difficult.
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA
Distribution: world
Lines: 28
In article <19617@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>Probably within 50 years, a new type of eugenics will be possible.
>[...should] we do this? Should we make a race of disease-free, long-lived,
>Arnold Schwartzenegger-muscled, supermen? Even if we can.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
>geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Two thoughts.
- I think that psychologically it will be easier for the next
generation to accept genetic manipulation. It seems that people frown
upon 'messing with Nature', ignoring our eons-old practice of doing just that.
Any new human intervention is 'arrogance and hubris' and manipulation
we routinely do is 'natural' and certainly 'not a big deal'.
- Most interesting human traits will probably be massively
polygenetic and be full of trade-offs. In addition, without a positive
social environment for the cultivation of genetic gifts, having them won't
be the advantage it's made out to be. Some people will certainly pursue it
as if it is the Grail, but we know how most of those quests turn out.
Chris Schaeffer
|
6028 | From: nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: Stereo Pix of planets?y
Lines: 15
Nntp-Posting-Host: acad3.alaska.edu
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
In article <1993Apr20.010326.8634@csus.edu>, arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler) writes:
> Can anyone tell me where I might find stereo images of planetary and
> planetary satellite surfaces? GIFs preferred, but any will do. I'm
> especially interested in stereos of the surfaces of Phobos, Deimos, Mars
> and the Moon (in that order).
> Thanks.
ames.arc.nasa.gov not sure what subdirectory thou..
==
Michael Adams, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu -- I'm not high, just jacked
PS: I know it has a GIF area as well as SPACE and other info..
|
6029 | From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Subject: Re: PENTIUM!
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Lines: 18
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu
In a previous article, rrn@po.CWRU.Edu (Robert R. Novitskey) says:
>
>Just a qestion for all you pc-er's out there. Will the upcoming pentium
>systems be compatible with current simms and vlb cards? Any info would be
>helpful. I would just like to know before I plunk my $ on new hardware.
>
>Thanks
>BoB
>
Well, it all depends on the motherboard implimentation.
I'm sure someone will make a vlb motherboard that takes 1x9
simms and uses a pentium processor. I'm also sure that there
will be some motherboards that won't.
--
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6030 | From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Subject: Re: Pulldown menu periodically hangs application on OpenWindows 3.0
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Lines: 22
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.think.com
In article <1rgt23INNonv@ssdc.SSDC.Sterling.COM> rlee@ssdc.SSDC.Sterling.COM (Richard Lee) writes:
>: A Motif 1.2.2 application will periodically hang when run against the
>: OpenWindows 3. server (xnews).
>I have seen the same problem using a SPARCStation 10, Solaris 2.1, OW 3.1.
>In my case, it happens far more often than "periodically".
I don't know if there's a corresponding patch for Solaris 2.1, but this
sounds like the following bug which is supposedly fixed in 100492-06, the
Solaris 1.x olwm Jumbo patch:
1108642 - window system can hang in an errant pointer grab
Actually, I suspect that the OW 3.1 problem may be different, since the
README file says that this patch is just a SunOS 4.x version of the OW 3.1
olwm (but maybe that line came from an earlier version of the patch, and
they forgot to take it out in the -06 version).
--
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.
barmar@think.com {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
|
6031 | From: zborowsk@spot.Colorado.EDU (ZBOROWSKI BRANDON WALTER)
Subject: PaintBall Gun ForSale!!
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Lines: 22
Nntp-Posting-Host: spot.colorado.edu
Paintball Gun for Sale
TIPPMAN SL-68II (In Great Condition)
11" Micro-honed Barrel
Barrel Squeegie
16" Barrel
140 Round Sight Feeder with Elbow
7 oz. Constant Air Tank with Valve Protector and Buttplate
Shoulder Strap
3-7X Bushnell Sportview Scope
40 Round Ammo Box with Flip Top Lid
Barrel Plug
Instruction Manual
Allen Wrenches
Contact me at:
zborowsk@spot.colorado.edu
and make me an offer.
|
6032 | From: admiral@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Steve C Liu)
Subject: Opening Day of 1990?
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Lines: 30
Distribution: usa
Expires: 5/9/93
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Summary: Baltimore O's not looking stellar
The O's just lost to the Rangers a few minutes ago I was not too happy about
the pitching of Rick Sutcliffe (6 runs in 6 innings, 5 in the 3?) This puts
me in remembering the 1990 O's season. After '89 we didn't do much over
winter and we wound up in 5th. Now I know that Mussina, McDonald, and Rhodes
are better pitching prospects than Ballard and Milacki but are any other
Oriole fans scared out there?
Admiral Steve C. Liu
P.S. Other scores as of now.
Cincy over Montreal, 2-1 I think
FLORIDA IS LEADING LA 6-3 IN THE 8TH!
Braves vs. Cubs, 1-0 in the 8th. Futility of Cubs batting haunting them.
Yanks beat the Tribe I believe.
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6033 | From: kxgst1+@pitt.edu (Kenneth Gilbert)
Subject: Re: quality control in medicine
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Lines: 20
In article <93108.003258U19250@uicvm.uic.edu> U19250@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
:Does anybody know of any information regarding the implementaion of total
: quality management, quality control, quality assurance in the delivery of
: health care service. I would appreciate any information. If there is enough
:interest, I will post the responses.
This is in fact a hot topic in medicine these days, and much of the
medical literature is devoted to this. The most heavily funded studies
these days are for outcome research, and physicians (and others!) are
constantly questionning whether what we do it truly effective in any given
situation. QA activities are a routine part of every hospital's
administrative function and are required by accreditation agencies. There
are even entire publications devoted to QA issues.
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
= Kenneth Gilbert __|__ University of Pittsburgh =
= General Internal Medicine | "...dammit, not a programmer!" =
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
|
6034 | From: mbeckman@mbeckman.mbeckman.com (Mel Beckman)
Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Mr. Clinton
Organization: Beckman Software Engineering
Reply-To: mbeckman@mbeckman.com
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess LITE - Macintosh Release: 1.5v5
Lines: 38
In article <strnlghtC5M2Cv.8Hx@netcom.com> (sci.crypt), strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
> Here's a simple way to convert the Clipper proposal to an unexceptionable
> one: Make it voluntary.
>
> That is--you get high quality secure NSA classified technology if you agree
> to escrow your key. Otherwise you are on your own.
>
David,
As an economist, I'm sure you can see the flaws in this logic. If the (naive)
market is flooded with proprietary, but weak, encryption, then truly strong
encryption will be unable to compete. Suppose the govt had a secret TV broadcast
standard, and then sold TVs below cost. Private industry has a better standard,
but it's not as widespread due to the govt early flooding of the market
with cheap proprietary sets. Even though the industry's technology is better,
the programming is being broadcast to the govt's unduplicatable standard.
Who could compete?
The other flaw, of course, is that making something voluntary today ensures
that it will be voluntary in the future. I went to renew my CA drivers license
last week and was required not only to give my SSN, but to PRODUCE AN SSN
CARD to veryify the number! Note that a federal law once said that no state
or local govt could ever require the use of SSNs for drivers license registration
(specifically!).
I do not trust the govt that says "trust me on this even though we could
have an arrangement that doesn't require your trust." Something is big
time fishy. If you look more carefully, you'll see it.
-mel
________________________________________________________________________
| Mel beckman | Internet: mbeckman@mbeckman.com |
| Beckman Software Engineering | Compuserve: 75226,2257 |
| Ventura, CA 93003 | Voice/fax: 805/647-1641 805/647-3125 |
|______________________________|_______________________________________|
"You can observe a lot just by watching." -Yogi Bera
|
6035 | Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center
From: David Browdy <U31851@uicvm.uic.edu>
Subject: Re: cubs & expos roster questions
<0096B0F0.C5DE05A0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>
Lines: 1
To make room for Harkey, the Cubs sent Shawn Boskie down to AAA.
|
6036 | From: CBW790S@vma.smsu.edu.Ext (Corey Webb)
Subject: Re: HELP!!! GRASP
Organization: SouthWest Mo State Univ
Lines: 29
NNTP-Posting-Host: vma.smsu.edu
X-Newsreader: NNR/VM S_1.3.2
In article <1993Apr19.160944.20236W@baron.edb.tih.no>
havardn@edb.tih.no (Haavard Nesse,o92a) writes:
>
>Could anyone tell me if it's possible to save each frame
>of a .gl (grasp) animation to .gif, .jpg, .iff or any other
>picture formats.
>
If you have the GRASP animation system, then yes, it's quite easy.
You simply use GLIB to extract the image (each "frame" in a .GL is
actually a complete .PCX or .CLP file), then use one of MANY available
utilities to convert it. If you don't have the GRASP package, I'm afraid
I can't help you. Sorry.
By the way, before you ask, GRASP (GRaphics Animation System for
Professionals) is a commercial product that sells for just over US$300
from most mail-order companies I've seen. And no, I don't have it. :)
Corey Webb
____________________________________________________________________
| Corey Webb | "For in much wisdom is much grief, and |
| cbw790s@vma.smsu.edu | he that increaseth knowledge increaseth |
| Bitnet: CBW790S@SMSVMA | sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 |
|-------------------------|------------------------------------------|
| The "S" means I am only | "But first, are you experienced?" |
| speaking for myself. | -- Jimi Hendrix |
|
6037 | From: ls8139@albnyvms.bitnet (larry silverberg)
Subject: Re: Good Grief! (was Re: Candida Albicans: what is it?)
Reply-To: ls8139@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of Albany, SUNY
Lines: 126
In article <noringC5snsx.KMo@netcom.com>, noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
>In article rind@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (David Rind) writes:
>>In article davpa@ida.liu.se (David Partain) writes:
>
>>>Someone I know has recently been diagnosed as having Candida Albicans,
>>>a disease about which I can find no information. Apparently it has something
>>>to do with the body's production of yeast while at the same time being highly
>>>allergic to yeast. Can anyone out there tell me any more about it?
I have a lot of info about this disease. I am posting a small amount of
it that I extracted. If more is required, e-mail me @
ls8139@gemini.albany.edu. Please, it takes me some time to upload it, so
be advised, only request it if you *really* want it.
here is some info from InfoTrac - Health Reference Center
Also, check you local of univeristy library. They most likely have the
InfoTrac cd-rom this info was taken from......
====================================
InfoTrac - Health Reference Center ~ Oct '89 - Oct '92
Heading: CANDIDA ALBICANS
!Dictionary Definition
1. Mosby's Medical and Nursing Dictionary, 2nd edition
COPYRIGHT 1986 The C.V. Mosby Company
Candida albicans
-------------------------------------------------------
A common, budding, yeastlike, microscopic fungal
organism normally present in the mucous membranes of
the mouth, intestinal tract, and vagina and on the skin
of healthy people. Under certain circumstances, it may
cause superficial infections of the mouth or vagina
and, less commonly, serious invasive systemic infection
and toxic reaction. See also candidiasis.
==============================
InfoTrac - Health Reference Center ~ Oct '89 - Oct '92
THE MATERIAL CONTAINED IN Health Reference Center ~ Oct '89 - Oct '92 IS PROVIDED
ONLY FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSTRUED AS
MEDICAL ADVICE OR INSTRUCTION. CONSULT YOUR HEALTH PROFESSIONAL
FOR ADVICE RELATING TO A MEDICAL PROBLEM OR CONDITION.
Heading: CANDIDA ALBICANS
1. Yogurt cure for Candida. (acidophilus) il v22 East
West Natural Health July-August '92 p17(1)
TEXT AVAILABLE
TEXT
COPYRIGHT East West Partners 1992
Another folk remedy receives the blessing of medical study.
Researchers have found that eating a cup of yogurt a day drastically
reduces a woman's chances of getting vaginal candida, a yeast infection.
For the year-long study, researchers at Long Island Jewish Medical
Center in New Hyde Park, New York, recruited 13 women who suffered from
chronic yeast infections. For the first 6 months, the women each day ate
8 ounces of yogurt containing Lactobacillus acidophilus. For the second
6 months, the women did not eat yogurt. The researchers examined the
women each month and found that incidents of colonization and infection
were significantly lower during the period when the women ate yogurt.
The fungus Candida albicans can live in the body without doing harm.
It is an overproliferation of the fungus that leads to infection. The
researchers concluded that the L. acidophilus bacteria found in some
brands of yogurt retard overgrowth of the fungus. Streptococcus
thermophilus and L. bulgaricus are the two bacteria most commonly used
in commercial yogurt production. Neither one appears to exert a
protective effect against Candida albicans, however. Women who want to
try yogurt as a preventive measure should choose a brand that lists
acidophilus in its contents.
--- end ---
===================================
InfoTrac - Health Reference Center ~ Oct '89 - Oct '92
THE MATERIAL CONTAINED IN Health Reference Center ~ Oct '89 - Oct '92 IS PROVIDED
ONLY FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES AND SHOULD NOT BE CONSTRUED AS
MEDICAL ADVICE OR INSTRUCTION. CONSULT YOUR HEALTH PROFESSIONAL
FOR ADVICE RELATING TO A MEDICAL PROBLEM OR CONDITION.
Heading: CANDIDA ALBICANS
1. Candida (Monilia). (Infections Caused by Fungi)
(Infectious Diseases) by Harold C. Neu The Columbia
Univ. Coll. of Physicians & Surgeons Complete Home
Medical Guide Edition 2 '89 p472(1)
TEXT AVAILABLE
TEXT
COPYRIGHT Crown Publishers Inc. 1989
Candida (Monilia)
This disease is usually caused by Candida albicans, a fungus that we
all carry at one time or another. In some circumstances, though, the
organisms proliferate, producing symptomatic infection of the mouth,
intestines, vagina, or skin. When the mouth or vagina are infected, the
disease is commonly called thrush.
Vaginitis caused by Candida often afflicts women on birth control
pills or antibiotics. There is itching and a white, cheesy discharge.
Among narcotic addicts, Candida infections can lead to heart valve
inflammation.
Diagnosis of Candida infections is confirmed by cultures and blood
tests. Treatment can be with amphotericin B or orally with ketoconazole.
There is no evidence that Candida in the intestine of normal individuals
leads to disease. All people at one time or another have Candida in
their intestines. Claims for any benefit from special diets or chronic
antifungal agents is not based on any solid evidence.
--- end ---
==========================
I hope this is informative.
Larry
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Live From New York, It's SATURDAY NIGHT...
Tonight's special guest:
Lawrence Silverberg from The State University of New York @ Albany
aka:ls8139@gemini.Albany.edu
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|
6038 | From: ray@ole.cdac.com (Ray Berry)
Subject: Clipper- business as usual?
Article-I.D.: ole.1993Apr20.173039.4722
Organization: Cascade Design Automation
Lines: 17
Notwithstanding all the legitimate fuss about this proposal, how much
of a change is it? ATT's last product in this area (a) was priced over
$1000, as I suspect 'clipper' phones will be; (b) came to the customer
with the key automatically preregistered with government authorities. Thus,
aside from attempting to further legitimize and solidify the fed's posture,
Clipper seems to be "more of the same", rather than a new direction.
Yes, technology will eventually drive the cost down and thereby promote
more widespread use- but at present, the man on the street is not going
to purchase a $1000 crypto telephone, especially when the guy on the other
end probably doesn't have one anyway. Am I missing something?
The real question is what the gov will do in a year or two when air-
tight voice privacy on a phone line is as close as your nearest pc. That
has got to a problematic scenario for them, even if the extent of usage
never surpasses the 'underground' stature of PGP.
--
Ray Berry kb7ht ray@ole.cdac.com rjberry@eskimo.com 73407.3152@compuserve.com
|
6039 | From: arana@labein.ES (Jose Luis Arana)
Subject: X Graphics Accelerators
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 7
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
How can I obtain public information (documentation and sources)
about Xservers implemented with graphics processors?
I am specially interested in Xservers developed for the TMS34020
Texas Instruments graphic processor.
Please send answer to arana@labein.es
|
6040 | From: brand@s1.gov (Hal R. Brand)
Subject: Request For Input: MultiSpin CD-ROM Drives
Organization: LLNL
Lines: 9
Distribution: world
Reply-To: brand@s1.gov (Hal R. Brand)
NNTP-Posting-Host: s1.gov
Keywords: CD-ROM
I'm looking into getting an external, reasonably fast (<350 ms avg access time)
Multispin CD-ROM drive that supports "Photo CD Multi Session", has audio
output, and SCSI interface for connection to the PAS16 SCSI port. Does anyone
have any comments/experiences/warnings/recommendations they'd like to share
concerning the Texel DM-5024 and/or Toshiba TXM-3401E and/or others. THANKS!
Hal R. Brand
brand@s1.gov
|
6041 | From: deloura@cs.unc.edu (Mark A. DeLoura)
Subject: Looking for X Window Server Frequency-of-Operations Data
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Lines: 22
NNTP-Posting-Host: monet.cs.unc.edu
Keywords: Frequency data X Server architecture
Hello-- I'm currently designing the architecture of a chip which is
intended to help speed up common operations on a windowing system such as
X. A friend and I are designing the chip as the final course project for
an advanced computer architecture course taught by Dr. Fred Brooks at
UNC-Chapel Hill. While we feel that we've got a pretty solid design
currently, we'd really like to get ahold of some frequency data from an
X-Windows server so that we can make the most effective use of our bit
budget.
Unfortunately, I've been unable to find anything of this sort in the
various X FAQs, or X manuals that I've seen. Does anyone have some type of
frequency data, like how many Copy-rectangle operations vs draw-lines, and
things of that sort? Or, barring that, a program that records requests to
the server into a logfile that I can munge on myself?
Any and all help would be very appreciated.
Many thanks,
---Mark
===============================================================================
Mark A. DeLoura deloura@cs.unc.edu U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
|
6042 | From: Clarke@bdrc.bd.com (Richard Clarke)
Subject: Re: Boom! Dog attack!
Organization: Becton Dickinson Research Center R.T.P. NC USA
Lines: 27
Nntp-Posting-Host: polymr4.bdrc.bd.com
>I eagerly await comment.
The ice princess next door makes a habit of flooring her cage out of the
driveway when she sees me coming. Probably only hits 25mph, or so. (I made
the mistake of waving to a neighbor. She has some sort of grudge, now.)
I was riding downhill at ~60mph on a local backroad when a brown dobie came
flashing through the brush at well over 30mph, on an intercept course with
my front wheel. The dog had started out at the top of the hill when it heard
me and still had a lead when it hit the road. The dog was approaching from
my left, and was running full tilt to get to my bike on the other side of
the road before I went by. Rover was looking back at me to calculate the
final trajectory. Too bad it didn't notice the car approaching at 50+mph
from the other direction.
I got a closeup view of the our poor canine friend's noggin careening off
the front bumper, smacking the asphalt, and getting runover by the front
tire. It managed a pretty good yelp, just before impact. (peripheral
imminent doom?) I guess the driver didn't see me or they probably would have
swerved into my lane. The squeegeed pup actually got up and headed back
home, but I haven't seen it since.
Sniff.
Sometimes Fate sees you and smiles.
-Rick
|
6043 | From: kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis)
Subject: Pat Robertson says ...
Keywords: Homosexuality
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Lines: 25
[In response to a report by CBN News correspondent Ken Lormond about a
meeting between Slick Willie and homosexual activists:]
Lormond: "But Clinton will not be attending a rally by homosexuals in
Washington later this month. He will instead be out of town, on a
retreat with Senate Democrats."
Robertson: "Yeah, he'd better retreat." [Laughter, followed by
sustained applause]
[Later, in a report by correspondent Deborah Whitsen on the fizzling
boycott instigated by homosexuals against Colorado:]
Whitsen: "Colorado ski resorts have seen record crowds this year
despite a call by homosexual activists for boycott of the state ...
There have been record snowfalls in the mountains this year, and the
skiers have been coming in droves ..."
Robertson: "And God said, let it snow ..." [More sustained applause]
--
The views expressed herein are | Theodore A. Kaldis
my own only. Do you seriously | kaldis@remus.rutgers.edu
believe that a major university | {...}!rutgers!remus.rutgers.edu!kaldis
as this would hold such views??? |
|
6044 | From: mike@hopper.Virginia.EDU (Michael Chapman)
Subject: Re: Tektronix
Organization: ITC/UVA Community Access UNIX/Internet Project
Lines: 14
In article <930424212154.1000227@tgv.com> mahan@TGV.COM (Patrick L. Mahan) writes:
># I remember seeing something in the X distribution mentioning support
># for a Tektronix terminal in an X server. Is this accurate?
>Xterm supports 401x emulation.
What I was talking about was using an Tek terminal as your X display. I
should be possible to write an X server that does this as far as I can
tell, but what I'm asking is if there is already one.
--
mike@hopper.acs.virginia.edu
"I will NOT raise taxes on the middle class." -Unknown
|
6045 | From: taybh@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Beng Hang TAY)
Subject: Re: Cirrus Logic 5426 Graph Card
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server
Lines: 17
In comp.os.ms-windows.misc, gardner_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (andy gardner) writes:
In article <1qms3c$37t@news.cs.tu-berlin.de>, wong@cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfgang Jung) writes:
>Version 1.3 drivers are due to be release by Cirrus soon.
>Unfortunately, their not available via FTP, you have to dial
>up their BBS in the USA. I do this from NZ using a 14.4k modem
>to cut down on phone bills. It took me around 7 minutes to
>download the v1.2 driver.
Could you please upload to any of the ftp sites (such as
ftp.ciaca.indiana.edu) and announce it here? This will benefit
people does not have access to their BBS in USA (like me :-))?
Thanks a lot.
- Beng Hang Tay
|
6046 | From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: food-related seizures?
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Lines: 18
In article <79727@cup.portal.com> mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes:
>I remember hearing a few years back about a new therapy for hyperactivity
>which involved aggressively eliminating artificial coloring and flavoring
>from the diet. The theory -- which was backed up by interesting anecdotal
>results -- is that certain people are just way more sensitive to these
>chemicals than other people. I don't remember any connection being made
>with seizures, but it certainly couldn't hurt to try an all-natural diet.
Yeah, the "Feingold Diet" is a load of crap. Children diagnosed with ADD
who are placed on this diet show no improvement in their intellectual and
social skills, which in fact continue to decline. Of course, the parents
who are enthusiastic about this approach lap it up at the expense of their
children's development. So much for the value of "interesting anecdotal
results". People will believe anything if they want to.
--
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
|
6047 | From: david@swat (David E. Smyth)
Subject: Re: MS Windows VS Motif (GUI design differences), was Re: Future of Unix
Nntp-Posting-Host: swat
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Distribution: usa
Lines: 17
Ik Su Yoo <ik@mobydick.leis.bellcore.com> writes:
>
>Another important difference is that MSW doesn't have any window that
>handle sophisticated geometry management (like XmForm).
Is this an advantage to MS Windows or to Xt? I used to think it
was a big advantage for Xt, but I am not at all sure anymore...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Smyth david@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov
Senior Software Engineer, (818)306-6463 (temp! do NOT use v-mail)
X and Object Guru. tempory office: 525/B70
Jet Propulsion Lab, M/S 525-3660 4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pasadena, CA 91109
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
What's the earliest possible date you can't prove it won't be done by?
- Tom DeMarco
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|
6048 | From: dwilson@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David Wilson)
Subject: Various COMPUTER/AUDIO/VIDEO items wanted as of 4/16
Lines: 63
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA
Lines: 63
Unless otherwise noted, I am mainly interested in USED items.
If you have (any of) the following for sale, please contact me:
EMail mbeck@vtssi.vt.edu
Phone (703)552-4381
USMail Michael Beck
1200 Progress Street #5500E
Blacksburg, Virginia 24060
Please give as much info as possible (brand, age, condition, etc)
~~~~~~~~~~WANTED as of 12AM, 4/16/93~~~~~~~~~~
COMPUTER EQUIP:
1 CHEAP tape drive - pretty much any kind (Used)
1 Memory for PS/2 Model 50Z (New or Used)
1 Macintosh computer
1 486 66mhz chip (New or Used)
1 COLORADO tape drive, 250 megabyte, preferr. w/ 5 tapes (Used)
1 101 key-AT keyboard
1 High Density (1.2 mb) 5 1/4 disk drive
1 Printer - OMS410 or HP LASER or HP DESKJET series
1 Printer - 24 pin or DESKJET
1 High Density (1.2 mb) 5 1/4 disk drive EXTERNAL
1 Adaptec 1542 SCSI 16-bit HD/FD controller (Used)
1 Piggy back memory expansion for INTEL INBOARD 386
1 130 MB IDE Hard Drive
2 17" monitor, 1280 resolution, .28 dot pitch or better, digital
mult. XT's, AT's and laptop systems to go to Russia
NON-COMPUTER EQUIP:
1 drum set
mult. amps for a band
1 TV - 27" or bigger, stereo
1 VCR - 4 Heads, stereo
1 Receiver - 100 Watts or more w/ Dolby Prologic Surround Sound
capability
1 Bed - Full or Queen sized - LOCAL OFFERS only, please
1 Desk - LOCAL OFFERS only, please due to shipping constraints
|
6049 | From: roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby)
Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19
Nntp-Posting-Host: chopin.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Lines: 61
In article <1r1rad$7rl@transfer.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
>In article <C5s0Ds.J54@news.udel.edu>, roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes:
[The original question was about who started the fire and whether the
"madmen" were inside or outside the compound. To which I replied on
the possible sanity level of those inside and outside.]
>
>> According to an Australian documentary made in the year before the stand off
>> began, Koresh and his followers all believed he was Christ. Koresh
>> had sex with children and women married to other men in the compound.
>> These were the "perfect children" resulting from the "great seed" of
>> his "magnified horn". Ex-members describe him in ways not dissimilar
>> to the way Jim Jones has been described.
>
>Point noted. Have you submitted YOUR faith and sex life for BATF clearance?
>Better hurry; I believe the deadline was April 15.
I paid my taxes. There was no reference to sex or religion on the form.
The comments above and below were meant to address who might be unstable
enough to keep children in a building with tear gas or start a fire.
>> FBI agents have to pass rigorous psychological examinations and background
>> checks. Plus, those in charge will undoubtedly have to explain their
>> decisions in great detail to congress. Why would the FBI want to fulfill
>> Koresh's own prophecy?
>
>And nevertheless, they hit all their marks and read all the scripted lines.
>Well, it sure beats the hell out of me. Maybe Thoreau had a clue when he
>said, "It is impossible to make anything foolproof, because fools are so
>ingenious."
I agree that the BATF handled the affair badly.
>> >:Two of the nine who escaped the compound said the fire was deliberately set
>> >:by cult members.
>> >
>> >Correction: The *FBI* said that two of the cult members said this; so far,
>> >no one else has been able to talk to them.
>>
>> So, when they talk to the news reporters directly, and relate the same details,
>> will you believe them?
>
>Believe them? I won't even RECOGNIZE them. And neither will anyone else
>who doesn't know them personally.
Do you believe they would put impostors before the national tv cameras?
At this point, we are getting conflicting reports from the survivors.
Best wait til more light is shed upon them. Of course, this is no
good if you believe in eternal darkness.
>--
>
>cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company,
>OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
>
--
|
6050 | From: willner@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Steve Willner)
Subject: Re: Orion drive in vacuum -- how?
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA, USA
Lines: 19
In article <C5qvJC.B4B@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry
Spencer) writes:
> The National Air & Space Museum has both the prototype and the film.
> However, quite possibly it's
> no longer on display; NASM, like most museums, has much more stuff than it
> can display at once, and does rotate the displays occasionally.
The NASM photo archives are open to the public. All (or almost all)
still pictures in the collection are available for viewing, but I
don't know about films. At least it might be worth a try. I'm not
sure if appointments are necessary, but I think not.
Good luck, and let us know what you find.
--
Steve Willner Phone 617-495-7123 Bitnet: willner@cfa
Cambridge, MA 02138 USA Internet: willner@cfa.harvard.edu
member, League for Programming Freedom; contact lpf@uunet.uu.net
|
6051 | From: rlm@helen.surfcty.com (Robert L. McMillin)
Subject: Re: Mix GL with X (Xlib,Xt,mwm)
Organization: Surf City Software/TBFW Project
In-Reply-To: graham@sparc1.ottawa.jade.COM's message of 19 Apr 1993 16:59:12 -0400
Lines: 21
On 19 Apr 1993 16:59:12 -0400, graham@sparc1.ottawa.jade.COM (Jay Graham) said:
> I am developing an X (Xt,Xm) application that will include a graphics window
> of some sort with moving symbols among other things. A pure X application
> could be implemented with Motif widgets, one of which would be an
> XmDrawingArea for drawing with Xlib. But I would like to take advantage of
> the Graphics Library (GL) available on our IBM RS/6000 (SGI's GL i believe).
> Is it possible to mix X and GL in one application program?
> Can I use GL subroutines in an XmDrawingArea or in an X window opened by me
> with XOpenWindow?
In SGI's distribution with their Indigo line (others as well, possibly),
they include source code for a GL widget that fits on top of Motif, and
one that's Xt based as well. You may wish to ask IBM whether they
support this.
--
Robert L. McMillin | Surf City Software | rlm@helen.surfcty.com | Dude!
#include <std.disclaimer.h>
|
6052 | From: yoony@aix.rpi.edu (Young-Hoon Yoon)
Subject: Re: Boston Gun Buy Back
Nntp-Posting-Host: aix.rpi.edu
Lines: 28
>>Ron Miller wrote:
>>When you ask the question of the "authorities" or sponsors of buyback
>>programs whether they will check for stolen weapons and they answer
>>"no, it's total amnesty".
> (good point about registration schemes being used only for harassment deleted)
> I would also like to point out that this is receiving stolen property and is
>no different than a pawn shop owner doing the same thing.
>
>
> Myron Petro
> NRA, USPSA
> DVC y'all
> **************************************************************************
> The opinions included in this post are my sole responsibility.
> And are protected by the First Amendment and guarnteed by the
> Second Amendment.
If amnesty was their concern, they should pay in cash rather than moneyorder
and they should check to see if the gun turned in was stolen or not.
This way if a gun turns out to be stolen, then even if they wanted to
prosecute, they don't know who to prosecute.
Since the only concern of these(HCI and the like) people seems to be the total
eradication of guns( legal or illegal ), why should they bother to check for
stolen property. If they knew who the rightful owner is, then they would have
to return the gun and hence contrary to their intent to ban all guns.
|
6053 | From: jbs@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19
Organization: Joe's Bar and Grill
Lines: 16
In article <C5rpoJ.IJv@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes:
>
>Well they had over 40 days to come out with their hands up on national tv
>to get the trial they deserved. Instead they chose to set fire to their
>compund hours after the tanks dropped off the tear gas.
This is about the third person who's parroted the FBI's line about the
fires being set "six hours after the tear gas was injected." Suppose you
want to explain to us the videotape footage shown on national TV last night
in which a tank with the gas-injecting tubes is pulling its injection tubes
out of the second story of a building as the building begins to belch smoke
and then fire?
Do tell.
-joe
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6054 | From: howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curt Howland)
Subject: Re: Newbie
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Lines: 16
In article <C5swox.GwI@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, os048@xi.cs.fsu.edu () writes:
|> hey there,
|> Yea, thats what I am....a newbie. I have never owned a motorcycle,
This makes 5! It IS SPRING!
|> Matt
|> PS I am not really sure what the purpose of this article was but...oh well
Neither were we. Read for a few days, then try again.
---
Curt Howland "Ace" DoD#0663 EFF#569
howland@nsipo.nasa.gov '82 V45 Sabre
Meddle not in the afairs of Wizards,
for it makes them soggy and hard to re-light.
|
6055 | From: doctor1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick.b.hailey)
Subject: Re: Limiting Govt (was Re: Employment (was Re: Why not concentrate...)
Organization: AT&T
Lines: 63
In article <1993Apr15.170731.8797@isc-br.isc-br.com> steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes:
[ These two paragraphs are from two different posts. In splicing them
together it is not my intention to change Steve's meaning or misrepresent
him in any way. I don't *think* I've done so. ]
>As noted in another thread (Limiting govt), the problem libertarians face
>is insuring that the "limited government" they seek does not become the
>tool of private interests to pursue their own agenda.
>
>It is a failure of libertarianism if the ideology does not provide any
>reasonable way to restrain such actions other than utopian dreams. Just
>as Marxism "fails" to specify how pure communism is to be achieved and
>the state is to "wither away," libertarians frequently fail to show how
>weakening the power of the state will result in improvement in the human
>condition.
Part of what started this was my earlier example of Illinois, USA requiring
anyone doing more than X automobile transfers a year (X = 10, I think)
to become licensed as a used car dealer. In addition, it requirs anyone
with a used car dealer's license to own at least 10 cars at a time, all the
time.
Let me continue with this example and try to answer Steve's questions.
Steve, let's say you have the talent and inclination to fix up and resell
cars. Either you've gotten good enough at it in your spare time to bump
up against these limits, or you would like to do it full-time but these
stupid, arbitrary laws prevent you from starting out small and pulling
yourself up. So I'm protected from a hungry neighborhood competitor willing
to take a low profit while working extra hard to fulfill my needs, and you're
protected from doing what you want with your life.
Here's what I see libertarianism offering you:
Your money is truly yours; it belongs to you. You can use it to buy a car.
If you use it to buy a car, it is truly your car; it belongs to you. You
can use your money to fix up that car. Since it is your car, you can sell
that car.
Your life is truly yours; it belongs to you. It matters not if someone
thinks that it's "wrong" for you to buy and sell 10 cars within 12 months
rather than, say, 9 cars. They may dissaprove, but it is not their life or
their money, it is your life and your money.
My money is truly mine; it belongs to me. I can use it to buy a car.
Perhaps your car. Perhaps that 10th car, the one that someone, somewhere
dissaproves of you selling and, presumably, of me buying.
That someone could go to the government and insist that the government make
us stop it. But the government would be powerless to stop us from doing
what we like with our own property, in the abscence of fraud or agression.
And it would be powerless to stop us from associating with each other.
This does not seem to me to be a utopian dream, but basic human decency
and common sense. A real grass-roots example of freedom and liberty.
And yes, not having a few people acting as our masters, approving or
rejecting each of our basic transactions with each other, does strike me
as a wonderful way to improve the human condition.
Thanks awfully,
Patrick
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6056 | From: f92anha@fy.chalmers.se (Anders Hammarquist)
Subject: Re: Need to find out number to a phone line
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology
Lines: 11
In article <23321@mindlink.bc.ca> Sean_Oliver@mindlink.bc.ca (Sean Oliver) writes:
>> Joseph Mich Krzeszewsk writes:
>> 890 the phone company will read the number of the phone you are on
>
>Where I live, I use BCTEL. The number to dial is 211 for the same result.
>
In NY City, the number to dial is 958... It seems to be different in different
areas.
Anders
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6057 | From: thomas@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (F. Thomas)
Subject: print graph on printer
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Lines: 6
This seems to be a simple problem but I just cannot solve it.
I wrote a C program to draw some polygons on the screen, and I want to
print it on my printer. So, I press "print-screen" on the keyboard.
The problem is the printer just print out some ASCII characters.
Is there any other way to print the screen without using "print-screen"????
Please help!
|
6058 | From: Tammy.Vandenboom@launchpad.unc.edu (Tammy Vandenboom)
Subject: sore spot on testicles
Nntp-Posting-Host: lambada.oit.unc.edu
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: na
Lines: 17
My husband woke up three days ago with a small sore spot
(a spot about the size of a nickel) on one of his testicles. Bottom side,
no knots or lumps, just a little sore spot. He says it reminds him of
how a bruise feels. He has no recollection of hitting it or anything like
that that would cause a bruise. (He asssures me he'd remember something
like that :-)
Any clues as to what it might be? He's somewhat of a hypochondriac (sp?)
so he's sure he's gonna die. . .
Thanks!!
--
The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
internet: laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
|
6059 | From: adrian@ora.COM (Adrian Nye)
Subject: Re: xwininfo
Organization: O'Reilly and Associates, Inc.
Lines: 11
Reply-To: adrian@ora.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
> I want to do the equivalent of an "xwininfo -name" via a call or set of calls
> in Xlib. I need to map a windows name to its id.
> It's probably easy, but I've only been programming in X for a little while.
Do you have the X source code? Simply look in mit/clients/xwininfo/xwininfo.c and you
will find out exactly how to do it. :-)
Adrian Nye
O'Reilly and Associates.
|
6060 | From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Subject: Re: Rockies spoon-feed game to Mets
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Lines: 8
Is it just me, or does Bichette look totally lost in the outfield? He
misplayed Martinez fly-out into a double against the Expos, misplayed
Alou's single into a triple (Alou tagged out at 3rd after over-sliding
the bag) and now he misplays another out into a 3 run triple...add in his
wonderful batting average and we have one heck of a player!
Don Boell
|
6061 | From: hall@boi.hp.com (Hal Leifson)
Subject: Re: [lds] kermit's reply [was: Re: Tony Rose was : FREE BOOK OF MORMON
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
Lines: 83
Robert Weiss (psyrobtw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu) wrote:
:
(lots of stuff about the Nicene Creed deleted which can be read in the
original basenote. I will also leave it up to other LDS netters to
take Mr. Weiss to task on using Mormon Doctrine to declare the difinitive
word on what the LDS Church teaches as doctrine. Hopefully the LDS
netters will be amiable in their explanation.)
Since it would do no good to rebut what Mr. Weiss has stated on the origin
of the Nicene Creed and its status as devine and inspired (I say "no good"
because it cannot be proved through discussion or debate as to whether or not
the authors of the Creed were inspired), I leave you (it will be some time
before I post again) with the following thought authored by Eugene England,
Professor of English at Brigham Young University. Mr. England wrote the
following as part of a book review section in This People's magazine (Spring
1993 edition):
"I conclude with a little sermon because I believe we will not be a Mormon--
or human--family until we can get over labeling and rejecting each other
with terms like feminist or patriarchal, liberal or conservative (Christian
or non-Christian -- Hal 8^). When we are tempted to draw a circle around
a set of beliefs and traditions and styles and call it American, then exclude
those who don't fit, it may be well to consider that perhaps the most central
defining characteristic of a good American might be "one who doesn't draw
exclusive circles" -- that the surest way of excluding ourselves from the
central American ideal is by excluding others. And when we are tempted to
draw a circle around "Mormon" or "Christian," to decide who is "orthodox"
and who isn't by how much they agree with us, it might be well to consider
that the central pillar of Christ's "orthodoxy" is our ability to love
unconditionally those who are different and include them in our family.
"I recently spent some time in a "Christian" bookstore in California. The
service was excellent, the clerks and customers all smiling, neat, and
well-scrubbed, and there were the expected wholesome offerings of scriptural
commentaries, sentimental fiction, and collections of evangelistic sermons.
But I was dismayed to find how much shelf space was given to attacking
others, often viciously---whether the political left, our modern American
culture, or other religions. A whole section was devoted to "Cults and the
Occult," and as you might expect, Mormonism was right there under the same
rubric and indictment (often by the same authors) as Satanism. And I found
I could either rent or buy (in English or Spanish) copies of The God Makers
(that absurdly inaccurate, even libelous, but very popular and dangerous
anti-Mormon film that uses exaclty the same techniques and even accusations
of the Nazi films that scapegoated Jews in the 1930s).
"It seems to me one major indication that a person is a genuine convert to
Christ and his redemptive love is his lack of paranoia and anxiety ("Perfect
love casteth out fear," I John 4:18). I have always been pleased that the
LDS Church has not engaged in attacks on other faiths, though I find a
disheartening increase in willingness of individual Mormons to engage in the
same kinds of stereotyping and scapegoating---and even threats of coercive
action---as the "religious right wing" has launched this year against the
political left and American cultural and religious styles they don't like.
It is a fearful irony that in so doing Mormons take common cause with the
very people who have most slanderously attacked Mormons---people who would,
if they had power, forcefully restrict Mormons' rights along with those of
others they believe to be evil."
The above "sermon" was addressed to the LDS audience who usually subscribe
to This People's magazine, but would certainly apply to all of us who
rely on the mercies and grace of Jesus Christ to bring us back into His
arms.
Even though the LDS Church claims devine authority to exercise the principles
of the restored gospel---as in the days of Christ, the Church does not claim
perfection and infallibility in how those with authoritative status have or do
now lead the Church. I, for one, do not wish to be labelled "Christian", if
those who profess themselves as Christians attack my beliefs because they are
intollerent (for example) of the way my religion may interpret Biblical
scriptures of the same source to have a different meaning and implication
than mainstream Christianity would give it. Once again, being in the
majority does NOT in and of itself PROVE anything except that your collective
voice is louder. That's really all the critics of the LDS Church have to stand
on in terms of the kind of Biblical interpretation used as proof to counter
the LDS Church' interpretation! Using someone elses biased research of truths
and non-truths (whose to say what the mixture is?) as an authoritative tool to
disprove or discredit is not being fair to anyone, least of all themselves.
Let us simply agree to disagree, and share beliefs through adult discussion
and conversation, thereby uplifting everyone.
Hal Leifson -- signing off!
|
6062 | From: root@c1.nkw.ac.uk (Convex UNIX)
Subject: re: Help with WinQVT
Reply-To: tb@ua.nbu.ac.uk
Organization: Natural Environment Research Council
Lines: 4
I had a similar problem - try changing the netmask to 0.0.0.0 or 255.255.254.0
Tommy.
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6063 | Subject: Re: How many israeli soldiers does it take to kill a 5 yr old child?
From: jhsegal@wiscon.weizmann.ac.il (Livian Segal)
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computation Center
Lines: 16
In article <1qhv50$222@bagel.cs.huji.ac.il> ranen@falafel.cs.huji.ac.il (Ranen Goren) writes:
>Q: How many Nick Steel's does it take to twist any truth around?
>A: Only one, and thank God there's only one.
>
> Ranen.
Absolutely not true!
There are lots of them!
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6064 | From: mayne@pipe.cs.fsu.edu (William Mayne)
Subject: Re: [soc.motss, et al.] "Princeton axes matching funds for Boy Scouts"
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Reply-To: mayne@cs.fsu.edu
Lines: 21
In article <JVIGNEAU.93Apr5182106@cs.ulowell.edu> jvigneau@cs.ulowell.edu (Joe Vigneau) writes:
>
>If anything, the BSA has taught me, I don't know, tolerance or something.
>Before I met this guy, I thought all gays were 'faries'. So, the BSA HAS
>taught me to be an antibigot.
I could give much the same testimonial about my experience as a scout
back in the 1960s. The issue wasn't gays, but the principles were the
same. Thanks for a well put testimonial. Stan Krieger and his kind who
think this discussion doesn't belong here and his intolerance is the
only acceptable position in scouting should take notice. The BSA has
been hijacked by the religious right, but some of the core values have
survived in spite of the leadership and some scouts and former scouts
haven't given up. Seeing a testimonial like this reminds me that
scouting is still worth fighting for.
On a cautionary note, you must realize that if your experience with this
camp leader was in the BSA you may be putting him at risk by publicizing
it. Word could leak out to the BSA gestapo.
Bill Mayne
|
6065 | Subject: Re: Non-lethal alternatives to handguns?
From: steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Jason 'Think!' Steiner)
Nntp-Posting-Host: jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Lines: 16
douglas craig holland (holland@CS.ColoState.EDU) writes:
[...lostsa' crap deleted. trim your articles!...]
> What about guns with non-lethal bullets, like rubber or plastic
> bullets. Would those work very well in stopping an attack?
last i heard, "non-lethal" was a bit of a misnomer for these things.
jason
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6066 | From: db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler)
Subject: Monophysites and Mike Walker
Lines: 45
> - Mike Walker
>
>[If you are using the standard formula of fully God and fully human,
>that I'm not sure why you object to saying that Jesus was human. I
>think the usual analysis would be that sin is not part of the basic
>definition of humanity. It's a consequence of the fall. Jesus is
>human, but not a fallen human. --clh]
The proper term for what Mike expresses is Monophysitism. This was a
heresy that was condemned in the Council of Chalcedon in 451 AD. It
grew up in reaction to Nestorianism, which held that the Son and Jesus
are two different people who happened to be united in the same body
temporarily. Monophysitism is held by the Copts of Egypt and Ethipoia
and by the Jacobites of Syria and the Armenian Orthodox. It believes
that Jesus Christ was God (which is correct), that he was man (which is
correct), that he was one person (which is correct), but that he had
only one nature and one will and oen energy (which is heretical, the
orthodox position is that he had two natures and two wills and two
energies, both divine and human, though the wills were in perfect
harmony). That is what Mike is trying to get across, that while Jesus
came in human form, Mike says He did not have a human nature or a human
will. In reality, he had both, though neither made him subject to
original sin.
It is interesting to note that the Monothelites were a reaction to this
conflict and attempted to solve the problem by admitting two natures but
not two wills or two energies. It also was condemned, at a late council
in Constantinople I believe.
Andy Byler
[These issues get mighty subtle. When you see people saying different
things it's often hard to tell whether they really mean seriously
different things, or whether they are using different terminology. I
don't think there's any question that there is a problem with
Nestorius, and I would agree that the saying Christ had a human form
without a real human nature or will is heretical. But I'd like to be
a bit wary about the Copts, Armenians, etc. Recent discussions
suggest that their monophysite position may not be as far from
orthodoxy as many had thought. Nestorius was an extreme
representative of one of the two major schools of thought. More
moderate representatives were regarded as orthodox, e.g. Theodore of
Mopsuestia. My impression is that the modern monophysite groups
inherit the entire tradition, not just Nestorius' version, and that
some of them may have a sufficient balanced position to be regarded as
orthodox. --clh]
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6067 | From: thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang)
Subject: The Kuebelwagen??!!
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Lines: 12
Sorry for the mis-spelling, but I forgot how to spell it after
my series of exams and NO-on hand reference here.
Is it still possible to get those cute WWII VW Jeep-wanna-be's?
A replica would be great I think.
-TKH '93
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6068 | From: smythw@vccnw03.its.rpi.edu (William Smythe)
Subject: Re: How to detect use of an illegal cipher?
Nntp-Posting-Host: vccnw03.its.rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Lines: 47
In article <betel.734997645@camelot> betel@camelot.bradley.edu (Robert Crawford) writes:
>Jay Fenton <Fenton@Kaleida.Com> writes:
>
>>How can the government tell which encryption method one is using without
>>being able to decode the traffic? i.e., In order to accuse me of using an
>>unauthorized strong encryption technique they would have to take both
>>keys out of escrow, run them against my ciphertext and "draw a blank".
>
> I was thinking about this, also. It's quite possible the
>system transmits, in clear, the serial number of the device being
>used. That way they can start a tap, get the serial number, and use
>the warrant for the first tap to get the key.
>
> If they tap someone who's apparently using encryption, but
>don't find that prefix, then they'll assume it's an "un-authorized"
>encryption scheme.
From the limited details released so far, It seems that the clipper chip
system must employ some sort of public key cryptography. Otherwise, the key
management problems inherent to symetric ciphers would make the system
unworkable. It probably has some sort of public key exchange that takes place
at the start of each call. Thats how they would identify the private key in
their data base?
This means that either the NSA has developed some non RSA public key
algorythm or the feds have decided to subsidize PKP & RSADSI. The former is
rather an exciting posibility since keeping the algorythm secret while making
chip implimentations widely avalibe will be exceptionally hard. If the feds
are forced to make it avalible in order to gain public acceptance than that
could break RSA's stranglehold on public key crypto in the U.S.
As for my impressions of the whole scheme It seems that instead of trying to
ban strong crypto, they are trying to co-opt it. Their contention that they
need to keep the algorythm secret to protect the security of the key
registration suggests possible inherent weakness to the algorythm. More likely
is that they dont want anyone constructing black market devices which dont
have the keys registered. Anyone else notice that in their Q&A session, they
talk about releasing the keys only to people with proper autiorization but
carefully dance around stating that the keys will simply have to be supeonaed.
They seem to be trying to keep open the posibility of obtaining keys without
court order even though tapping a phone line requires one. Also pick up on
their implicit threat of eithe accept this or we'll ban strong crypto outright?
I dont trust this plan at all and plan to oppose it in all (legal) ways
possible.
Bill Smythe
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6069 | From: Eric.Choi@p5.f175.n2240.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Choi)
Subject: Re: HONGKONG
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175.5 - Association Mac BBS, Grand Blanc MI
Lines: 25
ku> From: kinau@mondrian.CSUFresno.EDU (Kin Hung Au) Date: 13 Apr 93
ku> 07:22:05 GMT Organization: California State University, Fresno
ku> Message-ID: <C5Ev4t.G0A@zimmer.CSUFresno.EDU> Newsgroups:
ku> comp.sys.mac.hardware
ku>
ku> In Hong Kong , you can buy a cheap PC 386 or 486 based computer.
ku> However, it is very experience to buy a Macintosh. Last winter, I was
ku> back to Hong Kong. I saw the price of Mac Classic in Hong kong is same
ku> price to buy a LC in the U.S.
ku>
ku> I am not recommended to buy MAc in Hong Kong since Mac is not popular
ku> in HK.
ku>
ku> Kin Hung Au
Hello Mr. Au,
I have to disagree regarding your assessment of Macintosh in Hong Kong. The Mac has a sizeable share of the typesetting market, as in the U.S. A local magazine, Next Magazine (similar to Newsweek here), uses the Mac extensively. I have seen Sir Speedy and other franchises in Hong Kong equipped with Mac-based systems. True, the discount is not as steep as here because customers in Hong Kong cannot buy from gray market, nor are Mac being sold thru mass merchandisers like Apple does here with the Performa lin
e. At this point the sale of Mac is handled by one exclusive distributor. On the other hand, you can always get a PC clone or in the earlier days, illegal clones of the Apple IIe.
Your perception of the Mac not being too popular in Hong Kong is simply because most hobbyists and users find it much cheaper to go to one of those basement stores that sell PC clones with probably illegal copies of BIOS than to pay for a Mac.
Similarly you cannot say Lotus 1-2-3 surely is not well accepted in Hong Kong because the sale is so low. May be it is because of all those places in Kowloon where illegal copies of Lotus 1-2-3 can be bought for $20 and $10 for a professional looking but illegal copies of the manuals.
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6070 | From: neuralog@NeoSoft.com (Neuralog)
Subject: Authorization in OW 3.0
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Lines: 29
Hello,
This is my first net letter, so forgive mistakes!
I have been plagued by problems (or lack of info) with
authorization in Open Windows 3.0 for a long while and
would like some help please! I generally use strait
MIT X, and so don't use OW much, but when I share
X software with others - bad news.
PROBLEM:
My friend who logs into his SSII trys to run my
program that runs fine on my machine, however,
my friend gets "client not authorized to connect
to server" (or something close). If OW is started
with the -noauth option all is well, but surely this
is not required in general!
Also, xhost + does not work, becoming root does not
work, etc...
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Thanx
send replies to neuralog@neosoft.com or this news group
|
6071 | From: admiral@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Steve C Liu)
Subject: Re: NO JOKE: ROCKIES HAVE ATTENDANCE RECORD!!!!
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
Lines: 23
Distribution: usa
Expires: 5/9/93
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Summary: OPCY is just too small...
Hell, the Orioles' Opening Day game could easily be the largest in history
if we had a stadium with 80,000 seats. But unfortunely the Yards (a
definitely excellent ballpark) only holds like 45,000 with 275 SRO spots.
Ticket sales for the entire year is moving fast. Bleacher seats are almost
gone for every game this year. It's a extremely likelyhood that the O's
could sell out every game this year (especially if we lead the division for
most of the year like '89).
On another front, the sale of the Orioles to anyone is likely to be
forced upon Eli Jacobs who is major debt apparently. Maybe we can get an
owner willing to spend on a proven rightfielder free agent in the winter.
Fernando has made the O's as the fifth starter. The O's pitching
staff looks pretty good. Sutcliffe, Mussina, McDonald, Rhodes, and Fernando.
Baltimore is my pick for the victors in a very competitive AL East.
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11th and ends the Baby Birds' miracle season of '89.
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6072 | From: dcoleman@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu (Daniel M. Coleman)
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra Pro Confirmation
Lines: 41
Nntp-Posting-Host: blonde.cc.utexas.edu
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
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In article <Fn+0rAZBBh107h@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca>, aew@eosvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Alan Walford) writes:
> I have heard many things about the ATI Ultra Pro card. Some have
> been positive but most are negative. Could people please confirm
> these? (I am interested in the EISA version in particular).
>
> 1) The card does not work in a system with 32M RAM.
The higher memory limits apply to ISA cards only, as far as I know. The VLB
and EISA version should have no problems.
> 2) The card works in a 32M system with some switches
> set but it is much slower.
Again, the memory aperture need only be disabled if you have more than 124M RAM
(EISA and VLB) or 12 M (ISA). 32M should not be a problem for you.
> 3) The card is _interlaced_ in its 24bit (true-colour) modes.
Nope. I can use 640x480 at 72hz, 24-bit and 800x600 at 70hz, 24-bit, all
non-interlaced.
> 4) The latest build 59 drivers still do not work in many
> cases.
They aren't perfect, but are much improved. I don't recall the last time which
I had to leave mach 32 mode (ATI GUP mode) and switch to 8514 or VGA mode due
to software incompatibility.
> 5) This card is the fastest full colour card for the money.
It's quite fast, but whether or not its the fastest is open to debate.
> 6) This card is the greatest thing since sliced bread. ;-)
I like it.
--
Daniel Matthew Coleman | Internet: dcoleman@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu
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6073 | From: jbarrett@aludra.usc.edu (Jonathan Barrett)
Subject: Re: This year's biggest and worst (opinion)...
Keywords: NHL, awards
Article-I.D.: aludra.1pqgq3INN2vn
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I can only comment on the Kings, but the most obvious candidate for pleasant
surprise is Alex Zhitnik. He came highly touted as a defensive defenseman, but
he's clearly much more than that. Great skater and hard shot (though wish he
were more accurate). In fact, he pretty much allowed the Kings to trade away
that huge defensive liability Paul Coffey. Kelly Hrudey is only the biggest
disappointment if you thought he was any good to begin with. But, at best, he's
only a mediocre goaltender. A better choice would be Tomas Sandstrom, though
not through any fault of his own, but because some thugs in Toronto decided
to threaten his career in order to avoid conceding a goal. Other than that, the
award goes to Robert Lang, an uninspiring Czech. Robitaille could easily be
MVP, but I'd prefer to give it to Rob Blake who is quietly becoming one of the
league's premier defensemen, and if the Kings manage to hold onto him and the
rest of our young defense, it could one day mean that we'll let in fewer
goals than Hartford. Honorable mentions to Majestic Marty and Warren Rychel.
Jon
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6074 | From: tpeng@umich.edu (Timothy Richard Peng)
Subject: Re: Apple 14" monitor
Organization: University of Michigan -- Ann Arbor
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Reply-To: tpeng@umich.edu
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Originator: tpeng@livy.ccs.itd.umich.edu
this must be a FAQ from the very first days of the 13"RGB!!!!
and as for a better monitor for your $$, well, the NEC 4FG/3FGx are
pretty nice...
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6075 | From: thor@surt.atd.ucar.edu (Richard E. Neitzel)
Subject: XQueryBestCursor semi-broken?
Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research
Lines: 18
Some one asked me recently why they when they used XQueryBestCursor to see
if they could create of a given size it seemed to imply they could, but the
server did not create cursors of that size. Investigation showed that some X
servers will happily return any size up to the size of the root window, while
others return some fixed limit of more reasonable size. The interesting thing
to me is that the same server binary acts differently on different hardware -
a Sun4 with a cg2 will claim cursors up to root window size are OK, while a
Sun4 with a cg6 will stop at 32x32. So far I've also seen this behavior on
NCD and Phase-X X terminals and have been told it also occurs on HPs.
Actually, the NCD is even more liberal - sizes much larger then the root
winodw are gladly returned as OK. Is XQueryBestCursor semi-broken or is this
behavior correct? I'd really like to see a 2000x2000 cursor!
--
Richard Neitzel thor@thor.atd.ucar.edu Torren med sitt skjegg
National Center For Atmospheric Research lokkar borni under sole-vegg
Box 3000 Boulder, CO 80307-3000 Gjo'i med sitt shinn
303-497-2057 jagar borni inn.
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6076 | From: ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea)
Subject: Re: Rosicrucian Order(s) ?!
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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Reply-To: ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu
In a previous article, ba@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (B.A. Davis-Howe) says:
>
>ON the subject of how many competing RC orders there are, let me point out the
>Golden Dawn is only the *outer* order of that tradition. The inner order is
>the Roseae Rubeae et Aurae Crucis.
>
Just wondering, do you mean the "Lectorium Rosicrucianum"?
Warning: There is no point in arguing who's "legit" and who's not. *WHICH*
Golden Dawn are you talking about?
Just for the sake of argument, (reflecting NO affiliation)
I am going to say that the TRUE Rosicrucian Order is the Fraternitas
Rosae Crucis in Quakertown, Penn.,
Any takers? :-)
Fraternally,
Tony
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6077 | From: cathyf@is.rice.edu (Catherine Anne Foulston)
Subject: Re: WACO: Clinton press conference, part 1
Organization: Rice University
Lines: 6
Could y'all PLEASE stop posting this stuff to tx.general. tx.politics
is sufficient and is where this stuff belongs. Thanks.
Cathy
--
Cathy Foulston + Rice University + Network & Systems Support + cathyf@rice.edu
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6078 | From: "Jae W. Chang" <jc7j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: BMW R65 info wanted
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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NNTP-Posting-Host: po2.andrew.cmu.edu
Hi, someone is selling his bmw R65 ( I think it's an '84 ) w/ 15k
miles for $2200. He says it's in great condition and perfect shape.
It's got the 2 hard saddle bags, too.
Is this a good deal? Seems like an awesome deal. Is it - assuming that
everything he says is true ?
Thanks,
Jae
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jae@cmu.edu
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6079 | From: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB)
Subject: Re: IDE vs SCSI
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
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Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dante.nmsu.edu
wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:
>What does a 200-400 meg 5 megs/sec SCSI drive cost?
Since the Quadra is the only Mac able to deal with 5MB/s and Hard drives START
at 160MB I have NO idea.
For the Mac I have the following {These are ALL external}
20MB $299 {$15/MB}
52MB $379 {$7.3/MB}
80MB $449 {$5.63/MB}
120MB $569-$639 {$4.75-$5.33/MB
210MB $979-$1029{$4.67-$4.90/MB}
320MB $1499-$1549 {$4.68-$4.84/MB}
510MB $1999-$2119 ($3.92-$4.31/MB}
etc
So scsi-1/SCSI-2 for the Mac goes down in price/MB as hard drive size goes
up {and I assume the same for the PC world.}
>I won't argue that the SCSI standard makes for a good, well implimented
>data highway, but I still want to know why it intrinsically better
>(than IDE, on an ISA bus) when it comes to multi-tasking OS's when
>managing data from a single SCSI hard drive.
Well SCSI is ALSO a FLOPPY drive interface. In the Mac {since SCSI is THE
inteface for any non-card, non-modem, not-keyboard device} the id 7 is used
for the floppy drive {called CPU in all identifiers.} This allows cross
drive interfacing as fast as the OS, program, CPU, SCSI, and drive can handle
it{this shows up best in the Quatra line}.
In the IBM that uses SCSI for the FLOPPY drive this should happen as well.
Also SCSI is NOT just drives but printers, scanners, expandsion cards
{this showed up for the Plus as the NuBus 'Cage'}, CD-ROM, etc.
IDE seems to be mainly hard drives. As for specs nobody has GIVEN me any
and I can't find any. Besides the advertizments call IDE the AT interface
{Make of that what you will}
SCSI is a jack of all trades and IDE is a master of ONE.
This alone puts SCSI above IDE. SCSI-2 blows IDE out of the water.
Remember SCSI was used in high priced machines until about 18 months ago
{When the Mac prices came down to Earth} so the Rule of Scale still played
and SCSI remained high cost{cheap seems to mean chezzy in the High end
computer world at times and THIS more than anything else proably kept SCSI
off into the statosphere price wise}
SCSI came FROM the high end computer world with multitasking OS were the
standard for the most part. Of all the interface NeXT could have used it
choose SCSI. In 16-bit and 32-bit mode SCSI is a multi-tasking OS desined
interface while IDE and 8-bit SCSI are braindead run one program interfaces
{at least the way mac use 8-bit SCSI.UGH}
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6080 | From: rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mr. Nice Guy)
Subject: Incompetent law enforcement can kill
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither
control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
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Ever since the siege at Waco started the FBI spokesman has been
stressing how unstable and paranoid David Koresh was. He stressed how
likely it was the the Branch Davidians would commit mass suicide. He
was concerned with the safety of the children.
What did the FBI do to defuse the situation, Did they try to reassure
Koresh? DId the FBI offer medical assistance to the BD? Did the FBI
offer them a supply of water when the BD pump stoped working? Did the
permit Koresh to communicate with anyone outside the compound?
What the FBI did was harass the Branch Davidians as much as possible.
They kept powerful lights shining on the compound, shut off their
electrical power, put their pump out of action, assaulted their ears
with loud noise, cut off their communication with the outside and kept
limiting their permitter. The stated goal was to put pressure on
David Koresh.
Was the FBI attempting to get Koresh to surrender or were they hoping
to get Koresh so mad that he and some of his followers would attack
the the tanks.
It appears that the tactics employed by the FBI did drive Koresh over
the edge. The blame for the deaths should be shared by both the
federal experts whose tactics drove Koresh over the edge and the fools
at the ATF who planed the raid.
Stupidity and incompetence of the BATF and the FBI leadership have
resulted in the needless death of 90 innocent people.
If every thing had gone as planned 90 people would be alive today.
Instead the ATF screwed up and caused the death of 90+. Incompetent
law enforcement can kill you!
--
Rod Anderson N0NZO | The only acceptable substitute
Boulder, CO | for brains is silence.
rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu | -Solomon Short-
satellite N0NZO on ao-16 |
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6081 | From: barnett@convex.com (Paul Barnett)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Reasons Not to Aid Russians
Nntp-Posting-Host: zeppelin.convex.com
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
not necessarily those of CONVEX.
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In <C50FnH.Cvo@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes:
>Top Ten Reasons that Conservatives don't want to aid Russia:
[ edited ]
Now that's funny! (remembering that good humor always dances
uncomfortably close to the truth)
I can't wait to see the inevitable flames. :-)
--
Paul Barnett
MPP OS Development (214)-497-4846
Convex Computer Corp. Richardson, TX
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6082 | From: lansd@dgp.toronto.edu (Robert Lansdale)
Subject: Advice sought: Turning font outlines into renderable polygons
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Distribution: na
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I am seeking some alternate solutions on how to turn a Postscript Type 1 or
TrueType font outline into polygons that can be subsequently scan converted
by a 3D scanline renderer.
I have been studying the problem of font conversion for a few years but
have never had the need to implement such a system. Well, I now have the
opportunity to write some font rendering software so I would like to have
some of my questions answered before I jump into the deep end.
The main problem I face is how to use the even/odd or non-winding rules to
turn the outlines into a single outline polygon (my renderer can handle
complex polygons so there is no need to reduce the polygons to simple
polygons). For example, in the letter "O" there are two outlines:
1) The outside outline which is clockwise (TrueType font)
2) The inside outline which is counterclockwise.
One common solution used by a number of rendering packages is to simply
connect the inner outline to the outer outline at the point where the
two outlines are closest. This is equivalent to descibing a "polygon with
holes". The renderer will then make the appropriate hole since the interior
polygon edges are in the opposite direction to the outside edges.
I do not want to use this simplistic system since:
1) It will not handle all outline fonts properly (it is not a simple
matter to connect the outer outline to the inner outline for
some fancy fonts).
2) It does not properly handle the even/odd or non-winding rules.
From my research over the years the proper solution is to use a trapezoid
decomposition algorithm to scan convert the outlines into trapezoids (as
is done by the Postscript and TrueType font rasterizers). These trapezoidal
polygons can then be easily and properly rendered by the 3D scanline renderer.
My question is: are there any better solutions to turning the outlines into
polgyons other than the trapezoid decomposer? I am not fond of this solution
since it creates excess number of polygons.
Another question, for those in the know: what is the best algorithm to create
bevelled and/or offset curves for font outlines? I have a dozen papers on these
subjects but I can't tell which method is the best to implement.
Thanks for any pointers.
--> Rob Lansdale
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Internet: lansd@dgp.toronto.edu Computer Systems Research Institute
UUCP: ..!uunet!dgp.toronto.edu!lansd University of Toronto
Bitnet: lansd@dgp.utoronto Toronto, Ontario M5S 1A4, CANADA
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6083 | From: barker@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (James Barker)
Subject: NRA address?
Summary: address for NRA - Right to keep and bear anti-tank weapons
Keywords: NRA Waco RKBA
Lines: 41
Could someone email me a USNail address for the NRA? I'd like to write them
a letter encouraging them to see to it VERY EMPHATICALLY that the 2nd
amendment is restored to the form that the founding fathers intended.
People like Howard Metzenbaum seem very intent on diluting the 2nd amendment
to the point where it is no effort for the governmentski to do what they
did in Waco.
After all, from what I know of the Federalist papers, it is this kind of
tyranny the 2nd amendment was supposed to be designed to protect against.
Honestly! M-60 tanks against the civilian population! Attack helicopters!
We need the right to keep and bear anti-tank weapons. Actually, if they
intend to mass armour against the (weakly-armed, at that) civilian population,
we need the right to field tactical nukes. Government tyranny! Who would
have ever thought it would happen here!
I wonder who'se house they'll run tanks through next, because the gov.
SUSPECTS child abuse. Maybe yours! Maybe mine!
And what is an Illegal Weapon (which they have yet to show us), if the
2nd amendment is designed to do what I believe it is, and the gov. uses
tanks against you? Government self-serving? Naaaah. Not here.
Time was when the U.S. used armour/attack helicopters against small countries.
Now, we're down to using them against to what amounts to a busload and a
half of civilians.
"First they came for the Jews, but I did not stop them, because I was
not a Jew: Then they came for the catholics, but I did not stop them
because I was not a catholic! Then they came for the lutherans, but
there was now no one left to stop them!" Rev. Martin Niemoller.
(probably didn't get it verbatim, but you get the idea).
If the NRA reads this, then never mind about the address.
God save us!
--James S. Barker
Portland State University
barker@cs.pdx.edu
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6084 | From: adamb@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Adam Benson)
Subject: Windows 3.1 slower using DOS 6 ????
Summary: According to Norton SI computer is slower in windows A LOT SLOWER
Keywords: windows win dos
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Lines: 5
Adam Benson
Mt. Pearl, NF
adamb@garfield.cs.mun.ca
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6085 | From: TSOS@uni-duesseldorf.de (Detlef Lannert)
Subject: Re: Facinating facts: 30 bit serial number, possibly fixed S1 and S2
Organization: Universitaetsrechenzentrum, Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet, Duesseldorf
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In article <PMETZGER.93Apr20065402@snark.shearson.com> pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger) writes:
>Hmmm. We must assume that generating the unit key U from the serial
>number N rather than generating it from a randomly selected U1 and U2
>is an intentional way of assuring a "fail safe" for the government --
>U is completedly determined given S1, S2 and N.
[...]
>If S1 and S2 do not change, even if they remain secret I wonder if
>they can somehow be back-derived given enough unit key/serial number
>pairs. [...]
Maybe 300 such pairs suffice to reconstruct S1 and S2? By such a back-
door (in the encryption algorithm perhaps) it would be possible (for
the manufacturer) to get the keys of all chips that were programmed in
one session. This would not, btw, enable anybody else to retrieve the
keys in the same way because they'll never get a bunch of 300 (N,U)
pairs with identical S1 and S2. (Note that these have to be constant
for the whole batch by the very nature of the procedure, i.e., they
have to be typed in manually by the `random number supplying agents'!)
And I was wondering why they'll always do 300 chips in one session ...
Since the procedure described by Ms Denning imposes high costs on the
production of every chip (at least three persons for one hour each,
plus the cost of a laptop finally blown to pieces in a spectacular,
Hollywood-like bonfire; add travelling expenses, drinks and lighting,
divide the sum by 300) there won't be a larger demand -- not from the
private sector anyway.
And let me mention one other thought that certainly has occurred to all
the notoriously paranoid people in this group before: Who is going to
verify that _no_ interested party will perform tempest attacks on the
vault??
Where there's so much smoke and mirrors -- there can't be a nice, honest
fire but something really worth hiding ...
--
Detlef Lannert DC3EK E-Mail: tsos@rz.uni-duesseldorf.de
PGP 2.2 key via server or finger lannert@clio.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de
"I am Psmith." - "Oh, you're Smith, are you?" - "With a preliminary
P. Which, however, is not sounded." P.G.Wodehouse
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6086 | From: dfuller@portal.hq.videocart.com (Dave Fuller)
Subject: Re: It's all Mary's fault!
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
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pl1u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Patrick C Leger) writes:
: You know, it just occurred to me today that this whole Christian thing
: can be blamed solely on Mary.
:
: So, she's married to Joseph. She gets knocked up. What do you think
: ol' Joe will do if he finds she's been getting around? So Mary comes up
: with this ridiculous story about God making her pregnant.
:
Nice attempt Chris . . . verrry close.
You missed the conspiracy by 1 step. Joseph knew who knocked her up.
He couldn't let it be known that somebody ELSE got ol' Mary prego. That
wouldn't do well for his popularity in the local circles. So what
happened is that she was feeling guilty, he was feeling embarrassed, and
THEY decided to improve both of their images on what could have otherwise
been the downfall for both. Clever indeed. Come to think of it . . . I
have gained a new respect for the couple. Maybe Joseph and Mary should
receive all of the praise being paid to jesus.
Dave "Buckminster" Fuller
How is that one 'o keeper of the nicknames ?
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6087 | From: dcr@mail.ast.CAm.ac.UK (Derek C. Richardson)
Subject: Re: Animation
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 81
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
I think you tried to send me a message re: the animation query
I posted to comp.windows.x. I've appended what I received below.
If you can remember what you typed, I'd appreciate another attempt!
Derek
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Hi, I'm new to this group so please bear with me!
Two years ago I wrote a Sunview application for fast animation
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finally decided to rewrite everything from scratch in XView.
I put together a quick test, and I've found that XPutImage()
is considerably slower (factor of 2 on average?) than the
Sunview command pw_rop() which moves image data from memory
pixrects to a canvas. This was on a Sparc IPX. It seems that:
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6088 | From: srt@duke.cs.duke.edu (Stephen R. Tate)
Subject: Re: More technical details
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.
Lines: 23
In article <1993Apr19.162936.7517@bernina.ethz.ch> caronni@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Germano Caronni) (actually Dorothy Denning) writes:
>The seeds S1 and S2 do not change.
Let me see if I have this straight --- if a person knows S1 and S2,
and the serial number of the unit, it's easy to reconstruct UK.
Of course, if they know SK, the "family key", they can easily get the
serial number of any unit that has made a transmission. So with S1 and
S2 being used for a while "batch" of the unit keys, the number of
used S1/S2 pairs will probably be fairly low. Of course, you have to
believe that the NSA/FBI/name-your-favorite-government agency will
know SK so all it needs is the S1/S2 pairs, and presto, nasty details
like court orders for wire taps are no longer necessary.
Now, I'm not one of the people who distrusts the government at every
turn, but taking someone's word for it that the S1/S2 pairs are not kept
around is pushing what I'm willing to believe just a little bit too far.
--
Steve Tate srt@cs.duke.edu | The reason why mathematics enjoys special esteem,
Dept. of Computer Science | above all other sciences, is that its laws are
Duke University | absolutely certain and indisputable, while those of all
Durham, NC 27706 | other sciences are to some extent debatable. (Einstein)
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6089 | From: ckincy@cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy)
Subject: Re: Clinton's immunization program
Nntp-Posting-Host: next4.cs.umr.edu
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla, Rolla, MO
Lines: 18
In article <1993Apr16.030703.23005@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rscharfy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ryan C Scharfy) writes:
>Excuse me for sticking my nose in, but any parent/parents who do not allready
>immunize their children (especially if it is already free), don't deserve one
>frigging dime of tax money for health care for themselves, or public health
>care service.
>
>(I know the immunization program and the coming national health care issue are
>slightly seperate issues, but anybody who wouldn't help their kids, don't
>deserve my tax help).
Hmmmmm......what about their kids?
cpk
--
It's been 80 days. Do you know where your wallet is?
Slick Willy's already got his hand in my pocket. I'm just afraid
of what he might grab hold of.
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6090 | From: wellison@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Subject: Re: Help with ultra-long timing
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services
Lines: 33
Thanks for the resposes as they were all good ideas and I am looking at using a
couple of the ideas. I recieved in the mail today the spec sheets on the mil.
spec version of Exar's XR-2240 timer/counter chip. It is stable down to -50 C
and sucks very little power. They show an application for a ultra-long time
delay (up to several years depending on the RC time constant). In this
application, they have two of them cascaded together. The reset and trigger
pins of both chips are tied together and the timebase of the second chip is
disabled. In this configuration, the output is high when the system is reset.
When triggered, the output goes low and stays that way for a total of 65,536 x
the timing cycle of the first chip. The total timing cycle of the two chips can
be programmed from To = 256 x R x C to 65,536 x R x C in 256 steps by selecting
any combination of the counter outputs to the timer output. The beauty of it
is, the timebase chip would only have to have a 100uF timing cap and a 391K
resistor for 39.1 seconds per timing cycle. So I can get a maximum of
2,562,457.6 seconds between timing cycles (39.1 x 65,536 or about 29 days !)
Of course, that's much more than I need (14 days). But the counter allows for
256 binary steps that can be selected for the output for the 'pellet puker'.
After the first 14 days and it trips, it would reset its self for the next 14
day timing cycle and so forth.
Power is still a problem though. A few ideas that you suggested was to bury the
electronics in a hole dug in the snow (as an insulator) and put the pellet
puker up on a tower above the estimated snow fall with a solar panel on it to
keep a charge on a lithium battery pack. I like that idea ;-) This thing has to
work for at least six weeks for three samples and the gas valves are 12 volts
to spit the pellets out onto the snow. Anyway, I ordered the XR-2240's to see
what I can do with them. Should be interesting (as long as I'm not the one that
has to go digging up the pellets in the middle of Antartica freezing my buns
off ;-)
Thanks again everyone...
-=-= Wes =-=-
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6091 | From: anik@crhc.uiuc.edu (Sadun Anik)
Subject: Losing dark colors of my icons
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing
Lines: 19
NNTP-Posting-Host: lyra.crhc.uiuc.edu
Here is an annoying problem. Whenever I save an icon which contains dark
colors like dark red or dark purple, these colors are converted to the
bright colors. This happens with every icon editor including the image
editor that came with SDK. I don't have this problem with .BMP files
either; only with .ICO files or icon libraries. The problem is with
the icon colormap field in the icon file header. Checking the file
with a binary editor, I can see that the masks are OK. By editing the
colormap manually (copying from another icon that I didn't edit) I can
fix the colors. Does anybody know what may be causing this problem?
Thanks.
--
Sadun Anik, U of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Center for Reliable and High-performance Computing
e-mail: anik@crhc.uiuc.edu
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6092 | From: melons@vnet.IBM.COM (Mike Magil)
Subject: Re: Israeli Terrorism
Lines: 33
Anas Omran writes in his earlier posting:
>
>
>A high rank Israeli officer was killed during a clash whith a Hamas
...and then his "fantasy" begins...
>Mujahid. The terrorist Israelis chased and killed a young Mujahid
>using anti-tank missiles. The terrorist zionists cut the Mujahid's
>body into small pieces to the extend that his body was not recognized.
>At leat ten houses were destroyed by these atni-tank missiles.
>
>
>---
>Anas Omran
>
>
>
This clearly is a "fantastic" story, Anas! I am very curious as to who
(or what) your sources are for this grossly exaggerated account (if not,
blatant lie). It surprises me that this "story" has not yet made it to
the front pages of the major newspapers (which love to make the State of
Israel look as evil as humanly possible)! Such a story would be "eaten up"
by some of the papers over here. So please explain to me why I have never
seen nor heard of it before! - Believe me, I'm not expecting a reply because
we both know where the story came from... YOUR DREAMS!!!!
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
Michael Zion Magil
IBM Canada Laboratory
=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=
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6093 | From: thompson@apple.com (Paul Thompson)
Subject: Tickets - advice is worth what you paid
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc., Cupertino, California
Lines: 28
Distribution: ca
I can't think of another subject that generates as much contradictory
advice as traffic laws and their enforcement. Everybody's got an
opinion and is dead certain they are right. Yet acurate information is
extremely difficult to come by. The DMV doesn't know. Cops don't
know. Your traffic school instructor doesn't know. The vehicle code
only tells part of the story. Judges choose to interpret the laws in a
wide variety of ways. And the public at large? I seldom hear any
advice that doesn't disagree with something I've experienced.
If you don't believe me I suggest you get a copy of the vehicle code,
study it, and then sit in on a day or two of court and see what really
happens. Read "Fight Your Ticket" too, but don't miss the little
section at the end where it says your chances are lousy and you're
basically screwed.
As you may have guessed, I'm pretty down on the system here in
California. I've carefully prepared for court, bringing witnesses and
revealing serious holes in the officer's story, only to be slapped with
the maximum allowable fine (plus assessments of over 100%) - the
message clear that the judge does not appreciate John Q Public trying
his own cases.
So here's my advice when you find yourself with a ticket: Take traffic
school if you can. If it's a serious matter get a lawyer. A lawyer
can present the exact same case as you, the difference is the
sentence.
--
Paul Thompson Apple Computer
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6094 | From: VEAL@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Subject: Re: National Sales Tax, The Movie
Lines: 27
Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education
In article <1993Apr16.170521.21129@midway.uchicago.edu> shou@quads.uchicago.edu (roger colin shouse) writes:
>
>SPEAKING OF VAT: Did anyone see CNN's report yesterday (4/15)? It
>was quite hillarious (no pun intended). They ran down how a percent tax
>was added at each stage of manufacturing, graphicaly depicting a stack of
>quarters being added at each wholesale stage. When they got to the final
>stage (the actual retail sale) the small stack of quarters added to the
>large stack already there was said to be "the amount paid by consumers."
>In other words, they completed ignored the fact that at each stage the
>tax would of course be passed on to the next buyer with the retail consumer
>paying the full load.
>
>These are not journalists--they're lap dogs.
One of the commentators on one of the Big Three news programs
described the VAT (which ain't a sales tax) as a tax "government's love."
I was even surprised he got the reason right: it effectively hides the
majority of the tax the consumer has to pay *from* the consumer. It's
kind of like they do with cars. You pay far more for automobile taxes than
most people realize because it's contained in two dozen different taxes,
everything from your license to your tires to your gasoline.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Veal Univ. of Tenn. Div. of Cont. Education Info. Services Group
PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu - "I still remember the way you laughed, the day
your pushed me down the elevator shaft; I'm beginning to think you don't
love me anymore." - "Weird Al"
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6095 | From: jhesse@netcom.com (John Hesse)
Subject: Re: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: na
Lines: 21
Stupid me. I believed the Democrats stood for principles of personal
privacy while it was the Neanderthal Republicans that wanted into every
aspect of our lives.
Clinton is just more clever than the other guy. Looks like gun control for
privacy technology. One small step at a time.
Wait a minute.... Let me think about this.
Hmmm, I feel better now. I believe the White House when they tell us
this first step is, in fact, the final step. All is OK. We've nothing to fear.
They're here to help us.
God bless America.
--
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
John Hesse | A man,
jhesse@netcom.com | a plan,
Moss Beach, Calif | a canal, Bob.
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6096 | From: rcb5@wsinfo03.win.tue.nl (Richard Verhoeven)
Subject: Re: Forcing a window manager to accept specific coordinates for a window
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, The Netherlands
Lines: 38
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: wsinfo03.win.tue.nl
bading@cs.tu-berlin.de (Tobias 'Doping' Bading) writes:
>
> try this after XCreateWindow:
> -----------------------------
> ...
>
> xsizehints->flags = USPosition | USSize; /* or = PPosition | PSize */
> ...
> XSetWMNormalHints (display, window, xsizehints);
> ...
>
> These hints tell the window manager that the position and size of the window
> are specified by the users and that the window manager should accept these
> values. If you use xsizehints->flags = PPosition | PSize, this tells the window
> manager that the values are prefered values of the program, not the user.
> I don't know a window manager that doesn't place the window like you prefer
> if you specify the position and size like above.
Sorry, but olwm and tvtwm don't do it. They place the title at that position
and the window at a position below it.
This becomes a problem when you want a program to be able to save its current
configuration and restore is later.
Currently, my solution is:
XCreateWindow(...);
XSetWMProperties(..);
XMapWindow(...);
XFlush(...);
XMoveWindow(...);
It works with olwm, but is less than elegant. All this leaves me wondering
if I'm overlooking something obvious.
Richard.
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6097 | From: tzs@stein2.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Subject: Re: Why Is Tax Evasion Not Considered Unpatriotic?
Organization: University of Washington School of Law, Class of '95
Lines: 7
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein2.u.washington.edu
ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser) writes:
>There is a deeper reason. Taxes, by their very nature, are un-American.
>One need only look at the birth and history of the US to see this fact.
So that's why the 13 newly independent states all had tax systems...
--Tim Smith
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6098 | From: pkortela@snakemail.hut.fi (Petteri Kortelainen)
Subject: Re: Helsinki/Stockholm & NHL expansion?
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Lines: 20
Distribution: inet
<C5H9wr.6J3@polaris.utu.fi> <1993Apr15.095653.17514@abo.fi>
NNTP-Posting-Host: lk-hp-17.hut.fi
In-reply-to: MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI's message of Thu, 15 Apr 1993 09:56:53 GMT
In article <1993Apr15.095653.17514@abo.fi> MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
>In <C5H9wr.6J3@polaris.utu.fi> franti@polaris.utu.fi writes:
>Not too low perhaps, but surely not as high as that of an European NHL
>division. The Finnish team, for example, would contain all players currently
on
>the national team plus a top-class foreigner or two. They would be in an
>entirely different league than TPS or Jokerit, both of whom have perhaps a
>dozen players of international class - if even that. Why settle for a minor
>league when you could have the best?
How many players of international class an average NHL team has. 6-10?
Top players just play more in smaller rinks. Is the quality of European hockey
really poor, then recent years only few north-american (usually good farm
players) players have got place in Finnish league or Elitserien, while most
have been shipped back.
Petteri Kortelainen
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6099 | From: hans@xelion.nl (Hans Bos)
Subject: Save Under with X11R5
Keywords: Save Under, X11R5
Organization: Xelion bv
Lines: 26
I have the following problem on X11R5 servers.
When a window of my is obscured by a pop up window which has
the Save Under attribute set, the subwindows of my window are not restored.
Normally, the subwindows are redrawn when the parent window gets an expose
event, but because the save under attribute is used for the pop up window
that obscured my window, no expose event is sent.
When ExposureMask is set for the child windows, those windows are correctly
updated when the popup window disappears, however then the application
gets too many expose events and you see extra redraws.
Everything works fine with X11R4.
Is this something that is changed between X11R4 and X11R5 (obvious)?
Is it something I do wrong?
Is there something that the popup window should do (which is also mine)?
Is this a bug in X11 release 5?
Greetings,
--
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Hans Bos domain : hans@xelion.nl
Xelion BV uucp : ...!sun4nl!xelion!hans
Postbus 88 phone : +31 15 622121
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