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6700 | From: muirm@argon.gas.organpipe.uug.arizona.edu (maxwell c muir)
Subject: Re: Homosexuality issues in Christianity
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson
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Can someone cite Biblical references to homosexuality being immoral, other
than Leviticus? So far, when I ask, around here, I get the verses from
Leviticus spouted at me, but the whole rest of that book tends to be
ignored by Christians (haven't seen any stonings in a _long_ time :-).
Later,
Max (Bob) Muir
[The list was posted not long ago, as I recall, aside from Lev, commonly
cited passages are:
the story of Sodom. Note however that this was a homosexual rape, and
there's no disagreement that that is wrong. I take an intermediate
position on this: note that Sodom is referred to elsewhere in the
Bible for its sinfulness. It doesn't seem to have been known
specifically for homosexuality. Rather, I think it was considered a
cesspool of all sins. However from what we know of Jewish attitudes,
homosexuality would have contributed to the horror of the action
described. (It almost seems to have been contrived to combine about
as many forms of evil in one act as possible: homosexual rape of
guests, who were actually angels.) But this story is not specifically
about homosexuality.
In the NT, the clear references are all from Paul's letters. In Rom
1, there is a passage that presupposes that homosexuality is an evil.
Note that the passage isn't about homosexuality -- it's about
idolatry. Homosexuality is visited on people as a punishment, or at
least result, of idolatry. There are a number of arguments over this
passage. It does not use the word "homosexuality", and it is referring
to people who are by nature heterosexual practicing homosexuality.
So it's not what I'd call an explicit teaching against all homosexuality.
But it does seem to support what would be a natural assumption anyway,
that Paul shares the general negative Jewish attitude towards
homosexuality.
The other passages occur in lists of sins, in I Cor 6:9, and I Tim
1:10. Unfortunately it's not entirely clear what the words used here
mean. There have been suggestions that one has a broader meaning,
such as "wanton", and that another may be specifically "male
prostitute". Again, we don't have here a precise teaching about
homosexuality, but it is at least weak supportive evidence that Paul
shared the OT's negative judgement on homosexuality.
Jude 1:7 is sometimes cited, however it's probably not relevant. The
context in Jude involves angels. Since those who were almost raped in
Sodom were angels, it seems likely that "strange flesh" refers to
intercourse with angels.
As you can see, the NT evidence is such that people's conclusion is
determined by their approach to the Bible. Conservatives note that
the passages from Paul's letters imply that he accepted the OT
prohibition. This is enough for them to regard it as having NT
endorsement. Liberals note that there's no specific teaching, and no
clear definition of what is being prohibited or why (is the concern in
Rom 1 the connection of homosexuality to pagan worship? what exactly
do the words in the lists of sins mean?). Thus some believe it is
legitimate to regard this as a attitude Paul took with him from his
background and not a specific teaching of the Gospel.
This is an explosive topic, which tends to result in long
dissertations on the exact meaning of various Greek words. But it's
clear to me that that's mostly irrelevant. What it really comes down
to is whether people are looking to the Bible for law or whether they
believe that such as approach is inconsistent with the Gospel. This
appears to depend upon one's reaction to the message of the Bible as a
whole, as well as one's perception of the needs of the church today.
This is a difference of approach at least as serious as the difference
between Protestant and Catholic in the 16th Cent, and one where both
sides believe that the Bible is so obviously on their side that they
keep thinking all they have to do is quote a few more passages and the
other side will finally come to their senses. That makes things
very frustrating for a moderator, who realizes that such an optimistic
outcome is not very likely...
--clh]
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6701 | From: cmwolf@mtu.edu (Engineer by Day - Asleep by Night)
Subject: Re: A question about 120VAC outlet wiring.
Organization: Michigan Technological University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
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Dave Martindale (dave@imax.imax.com) wrote:
: They require two separate grounds. One ground goes to the ground pin
: of the outlet, and the other ground wire is connected to the outlet's
: mounting tabs (and thus grounds the box and faceplate screw and metal
: faceplate, if any).
I thought the ground WAS connected to the metal frame on the socket.
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Remember, even if you win the Rat Race - You're still a rat.
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6702 | From: els390r@fawlty1.eng.monash.edu.au (G Chow)
Subject: Re: ESDI with IDE???
Organization: Monash University
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In article <1qegfd$dqi@wsinis03.info.win.tue.nl> monty@wsinis03.info.win.tue.nl (Guido Leenders) writes:
>Hi,
>
>Is it possible to use an ESDI-controller with HDD together with an
>IDE-harddisk + controller in one ISA-system?
>
>I've read stuff about secondary controllers. Does this trick work?
>
>Thanx in advance,
>
>Guido
>monty@win.tue.nl
I have the same question as Guido. It is possible to use the ESDI drive as a master and the IDE drive as the slave ?
At the moment , I have been using the ESDI drive and recently I bought a IDE drive to use as the 2nd drive .
The person in the computer shop told me that it is not possible to run 2 disk controller cards together on the same motherboard ( ESDI AND IDE ) but I think there might be some way of making them work. Can anybody enlighten me on this?
And it is possible to run a ESDI HDD using a IDE controller? or vice versa?
Can anybody please help me out on this?
Your help will be very much appreciated.
G.Chow
els390r@fawlty1.eng.monash.edu.au
els390r@mdw013.cc.monash.edu.au
gtchow@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
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6703 | Subject: [ANNOUNCE] Ivan Sutherland to speak at Harvard
From: eekim@husc11.harvard.edu (Eugene Kim)
Distribution: harvard
Organization: Harvard University Science Center
Nntp-Posting-Host: husc11.harvard.edu
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The Harvard Computer Society is pleased to announce its third lecture of
the spring. Ivan Sutherland, the father of computer graphics and an
innovator in microprocessing, will be speaking at Harvard University on
Tuesday, April 20, 1993, at 4:00 pm in Aiken Computations building, room
101. The title of his talk is "Logical Effort and the Conflict over the
Control of Information."
Cookies and tea will be served at 3:30 pm in the Aiken Lobby. Admissions
is free, and all are welcome.
Aiken is located north of the Science Center near the Law School.
For more information, send e-mail to eekim@husc.harvard.edu.
The lecture will be videotaped, and a tape will be made available.
Thanks.
--
Eugene Kim '96 | "Give me a place to stand, and I will
INTERNET: eekim@husc.harvard.edu | move the earth." --Archimedes
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6704 | From: eder@hsvaic.boeing.com (Dani Eder)
Subject: Re: Guns for Space
Keywords: Sopa Gun, Space Launcer
Organization: Boeing AI Center, Huntsville, AL
Lines: 72
Okay, lets get the record straight on the Livermore gas gun.
The project manager is Dr. John Hunter, and he works for the
Laser group at Livermore. What, you may ask, does gas guns
have to do with lasers? Nothing, really, but the gun is physically
located across the road from the Free Electron Laser building,
and the FEL building has a heavily shielded control room (thick walls)
from which the gun firings are controlled. So I suspect that the
office he works for is an administrative convenience.
I visited Hunter at the beginning of Feb. and we toured the gun.
At the time I was working on gas gun R&D at Boeing, where I work,
but I am now doing other things (helping to save the space station),
The gun uses a methane-air mixture, which is burned in a chamber
about 200 ft long by 16 inch ID (i.e. it looks like a pipe).
The chamber holds a 1 ton piston which is propelled at several
hundred m/s down the chamber. On the other side of the piston
is hudrogen gas, initially at room temperature andsome tens
of atmospheres.
The piston compresses and heats the hydrogen ahead of it until
a stainless steel burst diaphragm ruptures, at around 50,000 psi.
The barrel of the gun is about 100 feet long and has a 4 inch
bore. It is mounted at right angles to the chamber (i.e. they
intersect). This was done so that in the future, the barrel
could be raised and the gun fired into the air without having to
move the larger and heavier chamber. The projectile being used
in testing is a 5 kg cylinder of Lexan plastic, 4 in in diameter
and about 50 cm long.
All of the acceleration comes from the expansion of the hydrogen
gas from 50,000 psi downwards until the projectile leaves the
barrel. The barrel is evacuated, and the end is sealed with a
sheet of plastic film (a little thicker than Saran wrap). The
plastic is blown off by the small amount of residual air trapped
in the barrel ahead of the projectile.
The gun is fired into a bunker filled with sandbags and plastic
water jugs. In the early testing fragments of the plastic
projectile were found. At the higher speeds in later testing,
the projectile vaporizes.
The testing is into a bunker because the Livermore test range is
about 3 miles across, and the projectile would go 100-200 km
if fired for maximum range. The intent is to move the whole gun
to Vandenberg AFB after the testing is complete, where they can
fire into the Pacific Ocean, and use the tracking radar at VAFB
to follow the projectiles.
The design goal of the gun is to throw a 5 kg projectile at 4
km/s (half of orbital speed). So far they have reached 2 km/s,
and the gun is currently down for repairs, as on the last test
they blew a seal and damaged some of the hardware (I think it
had to do with the methane-air more detonating than burning, but
I haven't had a chance to talk to Hunter directly on this).
There are people waiting to test scramjet components in this
gun by firing then out of the gun into the air (at Mach 12=
4 km/s), since the most you can get in wind tunnels is Mach 8.
This gun cost about 4 million to develop, and is basically
a proof-of-concept for a bigger gun capable of firing useful-
sized payloads into space. This would require on the order of
100 kg projectiles, which deliver on the order of 20 kg
useful payload to orbit.
Dani Eder
--
Dani Eder/Meridian Investment Company/(205)464-2697(w)/232-7467(h)/
Rt.1, Box 188-2, Athens AL 35611/Location: 34deg 37' N 86deg 43' W +100m alt.
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6705 | From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Subject: Re: Would "clipper" make a good cover for other encryption method?
Organization: DSI/USCRPAC
Lines: 17
In article <1993Apr20.032623.3046@eff.org> kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie) writes:
>So, don't just think of replacements for clipper, also think of front
>ends.
This only makes sense if the government prohibits alternative non-escrowed
encryption schemes. Otherwise, why not just use the front end without
clipper?
David
--
David Sternlight Great care has been taken to ensure the accuracy of
our information, errors and omissions excepted.
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6706 | From: stevep@Cadence.COM (Steve Peterson)
Subject: Re: Question on Sabbath question; Correction
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Lines: 13
>> There are a few groups that continue to believe Christians have to
>> worship on the Sabbath (Saturday). The best-known are the Seventh-Day
>> Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses. They argue that Act 20:7 is not a
>> regular worship service, but a special meeting to see Paul off, and
>> that I Cor 16:2 doesn't explicitly say it's a regular worship service.
Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe that Christians are required to observe
the Sabbath, whether it is on Saturday or Sunday. The Sabbath was part
of a Covenent between God and the Israelites and is not required for
Christians.
Steve Peterson
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6707 | From: u1452@penelope.sdsc.edu (Jeff Bytof - SIO)
Subject: End of the Space Age?
Organization: San Diego Supercomputer Center @ UCSD
Lines: 16
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: penelope.sdsc.edu
We are not at the end of the Space Age, but only at the end of Its
beginning.
That space exploration is no longer a driver for technical innovation,
or a focus of American cultural attention is certainly debatable; however,
technical developments in other quarters will always be examined for
possible applications in the space area and we can look forward to
many innovations that might enhance the capabilities and lower the
cost of future space operations.
The Dream is Alive and Well.
-Jeff Bytof
member, technical staff
Institute for Remote Exploration
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6708 | From: chris@MorningStar.Com (Chris Miller)
Subject: Re: The 'pill' for Deer = No Hunting
Nntp-Posting-Host: beluga.morningstar.com
Organization: /usr/local/etc/organization
Lines: 79
In article <1993Apr14.182610.2330@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
>In article <1993Apr14.120958.11363@synapse.bms.com>, hambidge@bms.com writes:
>>
>> The Second Amendment is about sovereignty, not sporting goods.
>
> Perfectly correct, but it won't make any difference.
I agree. Sad, but true.
>
>> Self defense is a valid reason for RKBA.
>
> The vast majority get through life without ever having to
> own, use or display a firearm. Besides, there are other
> means of self-protection which can be just as effective
> as firearms.
Please name one.
>
>> Freedoms and rights are not dependent on public opinion, necessity, or
>> scientific scrutiny.
>
> New to this planet ? EVERYTHING is dependent on either public
> or political opinion, usually political. To imagine that
> inalienable 'rights' are somehow wired into the vast cold
> cosmos is purest egotism and a dangerous delusion.
>
.... Upon which our Bill of Rights is based. Some delusion.
>> No arguments against RKBA can withstand scientific scrutiny.
>
> They don't have to. Like so many other things, the issue
> is one of -perception- rather than boring statistics.
> Every time some young innocent is gunned-down in a drive
> by, every time some kid is murdered for a jacket, every
> time a store clerk is executed for three dollars in change,
> every time some moron kills his wife because she took the
> last beer from the fridge, every time someone hears a 'bang'
> in the night .... the RKBA dies. The stats are not all *that*
> clearly behind firearms - the protection factor does not
> strongly outweigh the mindless mayhem factor. Given society
> as we now experience it - it seems safer to get rid of
> as many guns as possible. That may be an error, but enough
> active voters believe in that course.
>
If this were not true in practice, then certain unethical politicians would
not be passing gun control laws. Politicians are generally whores to public
opinion. This does NOT mean the the public is either well informed or correct.
As for the stats, anyone can support anything with the right stats. The
"right" stats, from what I've seen, are sometimes even used to support
conflicting sides of the same issue.
>> How do you intend to 'silence' RKBA supporters?
>
> Talk all you want. Talk about the "good old days" when
> you used to own firearms. After a while, such talk will
> take on the character of war stories ... and no one will
> be very interested anymore.
>
Used to own firearms? While armed insurrection, as the FF's of the Const.
may have envisioned seems to me a somewhat fanatical approach to avoiding this,
Political protest is still an option at this point. I agree that it's
argueably not enough and/or too late. If all else fails, there's always
PVC pipe and cosmoline.
--
Chris Miller
chris@MorningStar.Com
My opinions are my own (obviously), and by definition do not reflect the
opinions of anyone else...
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6709 | From: CSP1DWD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (CSP1DWD)
Subject: Re: Can I get more than 640 x 480 on 13" monitor?
Nntp-Posting-Host: mvs.oac.ucla.edu
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In article <carsona.734880998@sfu.ca>,
carsona@fraser.sfu.ca (Debra Carson) writes:
>Would a virtual screen of larger size be of use to you? I have been
>using Stepping Out v?.? for some time. It still is working now on a
>PowerBook with System 7.1, minor problem with menubar icons at right edge.
What's the latest version of Stepping Out that works ok with S7.1?
-- Denis
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6710 | From: ccgwt@trentu.ca (Grant Totten)
Subject: MS-Windows screen grabber?
Keywords: windows screen grab document graphics
Lines: 20
Reply-To: ccgwt@trentu.ca (Grant Totten)
Organization: Trent University
Howdy all,
Where could I find a screen-grabber program for MS-Windows? I'm
writing up some documentation and it would be VERY helpful to include
sample screens into the document.
Please e-mail as I don't usualy follow this group.
Thanks a lot,
Grant
--
Grant Totten, Programmer/Analyst, Trent University, Peterborough Ontario
GTotten@TrentU.CA Phone: (705) 748-1653 FAX: (705) 748-1246
========================================================================
"The human brain is like an enormous fish -- it is flat and slimy and
has gills through which it can see."
-- Monty Python
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6711 | Subject: Re: Americans and Evolution
From: halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat)
Reply-To: halat@pooh.bears (Jim Halat)
Lines: 10
In article <j0=5l3=@rpi.edu>, johnsd2@jec322.its.rpi.edu (Dan Johnson) writes:
>In article 143048IO30436@MAINE.MAINE.EDU, <IO30436@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> () writes:
Dan Johnson-
You don't know me, but take this hand anyway. Bravo for GO(DS) = 0.
Beautiful! Simply beautiful!
-jim halat
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6712 | From: tjacobs@bvsd.Co.EDU (S. Tyler Jacobs)
Subject: Centris610 problem.
Nntp-Posting-Host: bvsd.co.edu
Organization: Boulder Valley School District
Lines: 10
The problem is this:
After starting up my machine it gives a high pitched sound once at the desktop also it only does it when the mouse is up or a menu is not showing.
as if I click the mouse the noise goes away for the amount of time the mouse is down. also this problem only happens for about 5-10 minutes.
please let me know if you know what this is, it sounds like it is coming form the power supply.
Please Post here and Email me:
tjacobs@bvsd.co.edu
Thanks!
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6713 | From: mmatteo@mondrian.CSUFresno.EDU (Marc Matteo)
Subject: Why the drive speeds differ??
Keywords: Quantum, LPS, speed
Nntp-Posting-Host: mondrian.csufresno.edu
Organization: California State University, Fresno
Lines: 13
Hi all,
I just got a La Cie 240 meg external hard drive. Speed tests show that it's
substantially faster that my internal 105 meg Quantum HD. Supposedly the 105
and the 240 (both LPS drives) are roughly rated the same speed. Why such a
large difference?
Marc.
--
______________________________________________________________________________
Marc Matteo, | AppleLink: MATTEO
California State University, | Internet: mmatteo@mondrian.CSUFresno.EDU
Fresno | AOL: M Matteo
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6714 | From: eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf)
Subject: Re: Israeli Terrorism
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 19
ab4z@Virginia.EDU ("Andi Beyer") writes:
>I think the Israeli press might be a tad bit biased in
>reporting the events. I doubt the Propaganda machine of Goering
>reported accurately on what was happening in Germany. It is
>interesting that you are basing the truth on Israeli propaganda.
If you consider Israeli reporting of events in Israel to be propoganda, then
consider the Washington Post's handling of American events to be propoganda
too. What makes the Israeli press inherently biased in your opinion? I
wouldn't compare it to Nazi propoganda either. Unless you want to provide
some evidence of Israeli inaccuracies or parallels to Nazism, I suggest you
keep your mouth shut. I'm sick and tired of all you anti-semites comparing
Israel to the Nazis (and yes, in my opinion, if you compare Israel to the Nazis
you are an anti-semite because you know damn well it isn't true and you are
just trying to discredit Israel).
Ed.
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6715 | From: arf@genesis.MCS.COM (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: The DEFAMATION LEAGUE
Organization: MCSNet Contributor, Chicago, IL
Lines: 235
Distribution: world
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The following was posted and no doubt retyped by Yigal Ahrens and considering
the importance of the issue and the almost total blackout except in
California, I am reposting to other appropriates groups.
From LA Times, Friday, April 9, 1993. P. A1.
EVIDENCE OF ADL SPY OPERATION SEIZED BY POLICE
By Richard C. Paddock, Times staff writer
SAN FRANCISCO -- Police on Thursday served search warrants on the
Anti-Defamation League here and in Los Angeles, seizing evidence of a
nationwide intelligence network accused of keeping files on more than
950 political groups, newspapers and labor unions and as many as
12,000 people.
Describing the spy operation in great detail, San Francisco
authorities simultaneously released voluminous documents telling how
operatives of the Anti-Defamation League searched through trash and
infiltrated organizations to gather intelligence on Arab-American,
right-wing and what they called "pinko" organizations.
Representatives of the Anti-Defamation League, a well-known
organization in the U.S. Jewish community dedicated to fighting
anti-Semitism, declined detailed comment Thursday but denied breaking
any laws.
Police allege that the organization maintains undercover operatives to
gather political intelligence in at least seven cities, including Los
Angeles and San Francisco.
Groups that were the focus of the spy operation span the political
spectrum, including such groups as the Ku Klux Klan, the White Aryan
Resistance, Operation Rescue, Greenpeace, the National Assn. for the
Advancement of Colored People, the United Farm Workers and the Jewish
Defense League. Also on the list were Mills College, the board of
directors of San Francisco public television station KQED and the San
Francisco Bay Guardian newspaper.
People who were subjects of the spy operation included former
Republican Rep. Pete McCloskey, jailed political extremist Lyndon H.
LaRouche and Los Angeles Times foreign correspondent Scott Kraft, who
is based in South Africa.
Authorities said much of the material collected by the groups was
confidential information obtained illegally from law enforcement
agencies. They also alleged that data on some individuals and
organizations was sold separately to the South African government.
In addition to allegations of obtaining confidential information from
police, the Anti-Defamation League could face a total of 48 felony
counts for not properly reporting the employment of its chief West
Coast spy, Roy Bullock, according to the affidavit filed to justify
the search warrant.
The Anti-Defamation League disguised payments to Bullock for more than
25 years by funneling $550 a week to Beverly Hills attorney Bruce I.
Hochman, who then paid Bullock, according to the documents released in
San Francisco. Hochman, a former president of the Jewish Federation
Council of Greater Los Angeles and one of the state's leading tax
attorneys, will be out of the city until late next week and could not
be reached for comment, his office said.
Until 1990, Hochman, a former U.S. prosecutor, also was a member of a
panel appointed by then-Sen. Pete Wilson to secretly make initial
recommendations on new federal judges in California. Hochman is a
former regional president of the Anti-Defamation League.
The league, which initially cooperated with police, has denied
repeatedly that its intelligence-gathering operation broke any laws.
League officials will not confirm or deny whether Bullock was an
employee and have said they simply traded information with police
departments about people who might be involved in hate crimes.
But in an affidavit filed to obtain warrants for Thursday's searches,
San Francisco police alleged that "ADL employees were apparently less
than truthful" in providing information during an earlier search
conducted without a warrant.
David Lehrer, executive director of the Los Angeles ADL office, said
the organization has not violated the law. "There is nothing
nefarious about how we operate or what we have done," he said. "Our
record speaks for itself."
The police affidavit contends that Lehrer had sole control of a secret
fund used to pay for "fact-finding operations." Lehrer, according to
the documents, signed checks from the account under the name L.
Patterson.
An ADL official said the account was used to pay for subscriptions to
a wide variety of extremist publications that might balk at sending
them directly to the Anti-Defamation League.
Bullock, 58, who has been collecting intelligence for the ADL for
nearly 40 years, defended his efforts during a lengthy interview with
San Francisco police. He said that he gathered names from many
sources and entered them into his computer under headings such as
"Skins" and "Pinkos," but that did not necessarily mean that they were
under surveillance.
"I might never see or call up on 99% of them again," Bullock said.
"And it doesn't mean anything that they're in the files. It's not a
threat to anyone's civil rights that a name appears in my files under,
say, 'Pinko.'"
In recent years, Bullock worked closely with San Francisco Police
Officer Tom Gerard, who fled to the Phillippines last fall after he
was questioned by the FBI in the case.
A former CIA employee, Gerard supplied Bullock with criminal records
and Department of Motor Vehicles information such as home addresses,
vehicle registration, physical characteristics and drivers license
photographs.
Using files gathered for the Anti-Defamation League, Gerard and
Bullock also provided information to the South African government,
receiving $16,000 over four years, the documents show.
The file on Times staff writer Kraft, which was apparently sold to the
South African government, provides some insight into the hit-and-miss
nature of the spy operation.
The file notes that Kraft's articles "appear frequently in The Times
and are well researched and written," but little else about the file
is accurate. The brief entry confuses The Times' Kraft with another
Scott Kraft and provides the South African government with the wrong
Kraft's physical description, photograph and other personal
information.
Nevertheless, the documents provide illuminating details of how
Bullock for decades infiltrated all manner of organizations, from
skinheads to left-wing radicals, searching regularly through the trash
of target groups. Using Anti-Defamation League funds, he also ran his
own paid informants under code names such as "Scott" and "Scumbag."
He worked closely with police officers up and down the coast,
exchanged information with the FBI and worked with federal agencies,
including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.
It was Bullock's work as a paid informant for the FBI -- while spying
on behalf of the Anti-Defamation League and the South African
government -- that proved his undoing. The FBI learned that he was an
agent of a foreign government and began investigating, leading to the
probe of the Anti-Defamation League's intelligence network. The
Anti-Defamation League employed undercover operatives to gather
information in Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Washington,
Chicago, St. Louis and Atlanta, according to the affidavit and
investigators. Joining San Francisco police in searching league
offices and a Los Angeles bank were investigators from the office of
San Francisco Dist. Atty. Arlo Smith and the state Franchise Tax
Board. The Los Angeles Police Department, which earlier refused to
cooperate with the investigation, was informed of the searches in Los
Angeles but not invited to participate. Investigators suspect that
some confidential information in the Anti-Defamation League files may
have come from Los Angeles police officers.
From Los Angeles Times, Saturday, April 10, 1993. P. A23.
ADL VOWS TO COOPERATE WITH SPY INVESTIGATION
By Richard C. Paddock, Times staff writer.
SAN FRANCISCO -- The Anti-Defamation League defended its record as a
civil rights group Friday and said it will cooperate with authorities
who are investigating whether the organization collected confidential
police information on citizens and groups.
But San Francisco Dist. Atty. Arlo Smith said that Anti-Defamation
League employees involved in intelligence gathering could face many
felony counts of receiving confidential files, eavesdropping, tax
violations and conspiracy.
Police have accused the Anti-Defamation League of not being truthful
about its spying operations, which collected information on more than
12,000 individuals and 950 political groups across the political
spectrum.
Hundreds of pages of documents released by prosecutors Thursday show
that the ADL maintained a nationwide intelligence network and kept
files on political figures.
Even so, Smith suggested that if the Anti-Defamation League shut down
its spy operation, prosecutors would take that into account when
deciding what charges to file.
In a statement released in Washington, National Director Abraham H.
Foxman described the ADL as "a Jewish defense agency which has fought
to protect all minorities from bigotry and discrimination for 80
years."
Foxman said the organization is regarded as a credible source on
extremist groups and has a tradition of routinely providing
information to police, journalists, academics, government officials
and the public. It has never been the policy of the ADL to obtain
information illegally, he said.
"Like other journalists, in order to protect the confidentiality and
physical safety of its sources, ADL will not comment on the nature or
identity of any source of information," Foxman said.
The Anti-Defamation League refused to acknowledge that one of its
longtime employees, Roy Bullock, was anything more than "a private
individual who is alleged to be an ADL 'informant.'"
Among the documents released by prosecutors were detailed statements
showing how the ADL funneled weekly payments to Bullock through
Beverly Hills attorney Bruce I. Hochman.
"Roy would penetrate organizations and needed this arrangement to be
distanced from ADL," Hochman told a San Francisco police investigator.
Hochman could not be reached Friday at his home or office for comment.
Despite the Anti-Defamation League's assertion that it will cooperate
with authorities, San Francisco police said the group did not turn
over all pertinent documents during a voluntary search of the group's
offices in Los Angeles and San Francisco last fall.
A second round of searches Thursday, this time with search warrants,
produced a vast quantity of records, primarily dealing with financial
transactions, Smith said. Further searches may be necessary and it
will be at least a month before any charges are filed, he said.
"The investigation, of course, will go wherever the facts lead us,"
the district attorney said.
--
Yigal Arens
USC/ISI TV made me do it!
arens@isi.edu
js
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6716 | From: rfweber@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert F. Weber)
Subject: Re: More Cool BMP files??
Article-I.D.: bcstec.C5wL0r.6MB
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james@dlss2 (James Cummings) writes:
>In article <1993Apr17.023017.17301@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> rwang@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (John Wang) writes:
> |Hi, everybody:
> | I guess my subject has said it all. It is getting boring
> |looking at those same old bmp files that came with Windows. So,
> |I am wondering if there is any body has some beautiful bmp file
> |I can share. Or maybe somebody can tell me some ftp site for
> |some bmp files, like some scenery files, some animals files,
> |etc.... I used to have some, unfortunately i delete them all.
> |
> |Anyway could me give me some help, please???
> |
> In response to a "different" kinda wallpaper, here's what I
>use. I think the original gif/whatever was called "not_real". The
>artist name and logo is in the lower right corner. You will need VGA
>I think, and I have this sized for 800x600 256 color screens. Use
>this in your Windows directory and do not tile it. Hope you enjoy.
>BEGIN ----------------------- CUT HERE ---------------
>begin 666 ntreal.bmp
>M0DTV5P< #8$ H ( , %@" ! @
>M $ ! @@P![( @ "!A> #!_F #CD ,56# #D. !=>_D
>M4PA: &4H@P"L,1 $U); &N+L0 ($!@ +4WA !,J.0 B/%H 9TJ3 $KKZP 0
>M,;, TD4I /ZGB0!)#UH (0A. "6E@ I !@ 4B!I " ! !BBZX #!E1 )BV
Deleted a lot of stuff!!!!!!!
How do you convert this to a bit map???
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6717 | From: neideck@nestvx.enet.dec.com (Burkhard Neidecker-Lutz)
Subject: Re: Rumours about 3DO ???
Organization: CEC Karlsruhe
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NNTP-Posting-Host: NESTVX
Keywords: 3DO ARM QT Compact Video
In article <2BD07605.18974@news.service.uci.edu> rbarris@orion.oac.uci.edu (Robert C. Barris) writes:
>I'm not sure how a Centris/20MHz 040 stacks up against the 25 MHz ARM in
>the 3DO box. Obviously the ARM is faster, but how much?
Why would it have to be much faster (it probably is) ? Assuming an ARM
is about as efficient as a MIPS R3000 for integer calculations, doing
a Compact-Video-like digital video codec is an easy task. For Software
Motion Pictures (which is a lot like Compact Video, though it predates
it), we get 48 frames/sec. at 320x240 on a DECstation 5000/200. That
machine has a 25 Mhz MIPS R3000.
Burkhard Neidecker-Lutz
Distributed Multimedia Group, CEC Karlsruhe EERP Portfolio Manager
Software Motion Pictures & BERKOM II Project Multimedia Base Technology
Digital Equipment Corporation
neidecker@nestvx.enet.dec.com
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6718 | From: hahietanen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Strange phenomens in NHL (was: Team leaders in +/-)
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Nntp-Posting-Host: tne01.tele.nokia.fi
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
In article <1993Apr5.195705.29227@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>, maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard) writes:
> In <1993Apr5.185633.17843@ists.ists.ca> dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra) writes:
>
>>Implicitly you are assuming that goals scored against Winnipeg with Selanne
>>on the ice can be blamed on him...Roger, he is a FORWARD. Winnipeg has a
>>lousy defensive record anyway. Let's put it another way. John Cullen's +/-
>>is terrible. What's your excuse for him? That his powerplay points don't
>>count? Neither do Selanne's...
>
> Are you comparing Cullen to Salami? I would say that that is valid. If
> Winnipeg is such a lousy defensive team then why the hell does Salami
> stand around the other team's blueline when the puck is in his own end?
I thought that he was comparing Cullen to TEEMU SEL[NNE. I always thought
that salami is some sort of sausage, BUT IF YOU, dear Roger, ARE ABLE TO
SEE SALAMI ON THE ICE PLAYING HOCKEY... I don't know what to do, but you
surely should do something and very quickly!!!
Maybe you think that if you keep on talking some rubbish, after some time
everybody will consider it to be really true... You should take care of
your LEAFS, they surely need it more.
>
>>What he does best is score...so I refer you to my comment above.
>
> Some of our Finnish friends who have watched him play claim that he
> can play a solid two-way game. I would have to say that this style
> of contribution would be more conducive to winning. Or don't you
> think so?
At least we have seen him playing...
>
>>>As it is now, Selanne
>>>is a grandstanding goal suck. Did you see the way he parades around
>>>with his arms outstretched after scoring a goal? You would think the
>>>Messiah had returned...
During the latest Philly game the Leaf players didn't parade... Philly
crunched them 4-0 !!! Maybe you need some more two way players who can
score, too !!???
>
>
> cordially, as always,
>
> rm
>
> --
> Roger Maynard
> maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
just cordially,
Hannu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> GO JETS GO ! >>>>>>>> TEEMU ! >>>>>>> TEPPO ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> TAPPARA >>>>>> CANADIENS >>>>>>> BLACKHAWKS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
|
6719 | From: nfotis@ntua.gr (Nick C. Fotis)
Subject: (17 Apr 93) Computer Graphics Resource Listing : WEEKLY [part 3/3]
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Organization: National Technical Univ. of Athens
Archive-name: graphics/resources-list/part3
Last-modified: 1993/04/17
Computer Graphics Resource Listing : WEEKLY POSTING [ PART 3/3 ]
===================================================
Last Change : 17 April 1993
11. Scene generators/geographical data/Maps/Data files
======================================================
DEMs (Digital Elevation Models)
-------------------------------
DEMs (Digital Elevation Models) as well as other cartographic data
[huge] is available from spectrum.xerox.com [192.70.225.78], /pub/map.
Contact:
Lee Moore -- Webster Research Center, Xerox Corp. --
Voice: +1 (716) 422 2496
Arpa, Internet: Moore.Wbst128@Xerox.Com
[ Check also on ncgia.ucsb.edu (128.111.254.105), /pub/dems -- nfotis ]
Many of these files are also available on CD-ROM selled by USGS:
"1:2,000,000 scale Digital Line Graph (DLG) Data". Contains datas
for all 50 states. Price is about $28, call to or visit in offices
in Menlo Park, in Reston, Virginia (800-USA-MAPS).
The Data User Services Division of the Bureau of the Census also has
data on CD-ROM (TSO standard format) that is derived from USGS
1:100,000 map data. Call (301) 763-4100 for more info or they have
a BBS at (301) 763-1568.
[ From Dr.Dobbs #198 March 1993: ]
"The U.S. Defense Mapping Agency, in cooperation with their counterpart
agencies in CANADA, the U.K., and Australia, have released the Digital Chart
of the World (DCW). This chart consists of over 1.5 gigabytes of reasonable
quality vector data distributed on four CD-ROMS. .... includes coastlines,
rivers, roads, railrays, airports,cities, towns, spot elevations, and depths,
and over 100,000 place names."
It is ISO9660 compatible and only $200.00 available from:
U.S. Geological Survey
P.O. Box 25286
Denver Federal Center
Denver, CO 80225
Digital Distribution Services
Energy, Mines, and Resources Canada
615 Booth Street
Ottawa, ON
K1A 0E9 Canada
Director General of Military Survey
(Survey 3)
Elmwood Avenue
Feltham, Middlesex
TW13 7AH United Kingdom
Director of Survey, Australian Army
Department of Defense
Campbell Park Offices (CP2-4-24)
Campbell ACT 2601 Australia
Fractal Landscape Generators
----------------------------
Public Domain:
Many people have written fractal landscape generators. for example
for the Mac some of these generators were written by
pdbourke@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Paul D. Bourke).
Many of the programs are available from the FTP sites and mail
archive servers. Check with Archie.
Commercial:
Vista Pro 3.0 for the Amiga from Virtual Reality Labs -- list price
is about $100. Their address is:
VRL
2341 Ganador court
San Luis Obispo,
CA 93401
Telephone or FAX (805) 545-8515
Scenery Animator (also for the Amiga) is of the same caliber with Vista Pro 2.
Check with:
Natural Graphics
P.O. Box 1963
Raklin, CA 95677
Phone (916) 624-1436
Don't forget to ask about companion programs and data disks/tapes.
Vista Pro 3 has been ported to the PCs.
CIA World Map II
----------------
[ NOTE: this database is quite out of date, and not topologically structured.
If you need a standard for world cartographic data, wait for the
Digital Chart of the World. This 1:1M database has been produced from
the Defense Mapping Agency's ONCs and will be available, together with
searching and viewing software, on a number of CD-ROMs later this summer. ]
Check into HANAUMA.STANFORD.EDU and UCSD.EDU (see ftp list above)
The CIA database consists of coastlines, rivers and political boundaries
in the form of line strokes. Also on hanauma.stanford.edu is a 720x360
array of elevation data, containing one ieee floating point number for
every half degree longitude and latitude.
A program for decoding the database, mfil, can be found on the machine
pi1.arc.umn.edu (137.66.130.11).
There's another program, which reads a compressed CIA Data Bank file and
builds a PHIGS hierachical structure. It uses a PHIGS extension known as
polyline sets for performance, but you can use regular polylines. Ask
Joe Stewart <joes@lpi.liant.com>.
The raw data at Stanford require the vplot package to be able to view it.
(was posted in comp.sources.unix). To be more exact, you'll have to
compile just the libvplot routines, not the whole package.
NCAR data
---------
NCAR (National Center for Atmospheric Research) has many types of
terrain data, ranging from elevation datasets at
various resolutions, to information about soil types, vegetation, etc.
This data is not free -- they charge from $40 to $90 or more, depending
on the data volume and media (exabyte tape, 3480 cartridge, 9-track tape,
IBM PC floppy, and FTP transfer are all available). Their data archive
is mostly research oriented, not hobbyist oriented. For more information,
email to ilana@ncar.ucar.edu.
UNC data tapes with voxel data
--------------
There are 2 "public domain" tapes with data for the comparison and
testing of various volume rendering algorithms (mainly MRI and CT
scans). These tapes are distributed by the SoftLab of UNC @ Chapel Hill.
(softlab@cs.unc.edu)
The data sets (volume I and II) are also available via anonymous FTP from
omicron.cs.unc.edu [128.109.136.159] in pub/softlab/CHVRTD
NASA
----
Many US agencies such as NASA publish CD-ROMs with many altimetry data
from various space missions, eg. Viking for Mars, Magellan for Venus,
etc. Especially for NASA, I would suggest to call the following
address for more info:
National Space Science Date Center
Goddard Space Flight Center
Greenbelt, Maryland 20771
Telephone: (301) 286-6695
Email address: request@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov
The data catalog (*not* the data itself) is available online.
Internet users can telnet to nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (128.183.10.4) and log
in as 'NODIS' (no password).
You can also dial in at (301)-286-9000 (300, 1200, or 2400 baud, 8 bits,
no parity, one stop). At the "Enter Number:" prompt, enter MD and
carriage return. When the system responds "Call Complete," enter a few
more carriage returns to get the "Username:" and log in as 'NODIS' (no
password).
NSSDCA is also an anonymous FTP site, but no comprehensive list of
what's there is available at present.
Earth Sciences Data
-------------------
There's a listing of anonymous FTP sites for earth science data, including
imagery. This listing is called "Earth Sciences Resources on Internet",
and you can get it via anonymous FTP from csn.org [128.138.213.21]
in the directory COGS under the name "internet.resources.earth.sci"
Some sites include:
aurelie.soest.hawaii.edu [128.171.151.121]: pub/avhrr/images - AVHRR images
ames.arc.nasa.gov [128.102.18.3]: pub/SPACE/CDROM - images from
Magellan and Viking missions etc.
pub/SPACE/Index contains a listing of files available in the whole
archive (the index is about 200K by itself). There's also an
e-mail server for the people without Internet access: send a letter
to archive-server@ames.arc.nasa.gov (or ames!archive-server). In the
subject of your letter (or in the body), use commands like:
send SPACE Index
send SPACE SHUTTLE/ss01.23.91
(Capitalization is important! Only text files are handled by the
email server at present)
vab02.larc.nasa.gov [128.155.23.47]: pub/gifs/misc/landsat -
Landsat photos in GIF and JPEG format
[ It was shut down - nfotis; anyone has a copy of this archive?? ]
Others
------
Daily values of river discharge, streamflow, and daily weather data is
available from EarthInfo, 5541 Central Ave., Boulder CO 80301. These
disks are expensive, around $500, but there are quantity discounts.
(303) 938-1788.
Check vmd.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.98], the wx directory carries
data regarding surface analysis, weather radar, and sat view pics in
GIF format (updated hourly)
pioneer.unm.edu [129.24.9.217] is the Space and Planetary Image Facility
(located on the University of New Mexico campus) FTP server. It provides
Anonymous FTP access to >150 CD-ROMS with data/images.
A disk with earthquake data, topography, gravity, geopolitical info
is available from NGDC (National Geophysical Data Center), 325 Broadway,
Boulder, CO 80303. (303) 497-6958.
EOSAT (at least in the US) now sells Landsat MSS data older than two years
old for $200 per scene, and they have been talking about a similar deal
for Landsat TM data. The MSS data are 4 bands, 80 meter resolution.
Check out anonymous FTP to ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu in
UNIX/PolyView/alpha-shape for a tool that creates convex hulls
alpha-shapes (a generalization of the convex hull) from 3D point sets.
The GRIPS II (Gov. Raster Image Processing Software) CD-ROM
is available from CD-ROM Inc. at 1-800-821-5245 for $49.
Code for viewing ADRG (Arc Digitised Raster Graphics) files is
available on the GRIPS II CD-ROM. The U.S. Army Engineer
Topographic Labs (Juan Perez) code is also available via FTP
( adrg.zip archive in spectrum.xerox.com )
NRCC range data
---------------
Rioux M., Cournoyer L. "The NRCC Three-Dimensional Image Data Files",
Tech. Report, CNRC 29077, National Research Council Canada,
Ottawa, Canada, 1988
[ From what I understand, these data are from a laser range finder,
and you can a copy for research purposes ]
==========================================================================
12. 3D scanners - Digitized 3D Data
===================================
a. Cyberware Labs, Monterey, CA, manufactures a 3D color laser digitizer
which can be used to model parts of, or a complete, human body.
They run a service bureau also, so they can digitize models for you.
Address:
Cyberware Labs, Inc
8 Harris Ct, Suite 3D
Monterey, CA 93940
Phone: (408)373-1441, Fax: (408)373-3582
b. Polhemus makes a 6D input device (actually a couple of models)
that senses position (3D) and *orientation* (+3D) based on electromagnetic
field interference. This equipment is also incorporated in the
VPL Dataglove.
This hardware is also called ISOTRACK, from Keiser Aerospace.
Ascension Technology makes a similar 3D input device.
There is a company, Applied Sciences(?), that makes a 3D input
device (position only) based on speed of sound triangulation.
c. A company that specializes in digitizing is Viewpoint. You can ask
for Viewpoint's _free_ 100 page catalog full of ready to
ship datasets from categories such as cars, anatomy, aircraft,sports,
boats, trains, animals and others. Though these objects are
quite expensive, the cataloge is nevertheless of interest for it
has pictures of all the available objects in wireframe , polygon mesh.
Contact:
Viewpoint,
870 West Center,
Orem, Utah 84057
ph# 801-224-2222
fax# 801-224-2272
1-800-DATASET
------
Some addresses for companies that make digitizers:
Ascension Technology
Bird, Flock of Birds, Big Bird: 6d trackers
P.O. Box 527,
Burlington, VT 05402
Phone: (802) 655-7879, Fax: (802) 655-5904
Polhemus Incorporated
Digitizer: 6d trackers
P.O. Box 560, Hercules Dr.
Colchester, Vt. 05446
Tel: (802) 655-3159
Logitech Inc.
Red Baron, ultrasonic 6D mouse
6506 Kaiser Dr.
Freemont, CA 94555
Tel: (415) 795-8500w
Shooting Star Technology
Mechanical Headtracker
1921 Holdom Ave.
Burnaby, B.C. Canada V5B 3W4
Tel: (604) 298-8574
Fax: (604) 298-8580
Spaceball Technologies, Inc.
Spaceball: 6d stationary input device
600 Suffolk Street
Lowell, MA, 01854
Tel: (508) 970-0330
Fax: (508) 970-0199
Tel in Mountain View: (415) 966-8123
Transfinite Systems
Gold Brick: PowerGlove for Macintosh
P.O. Box N
MIT Branch Post Office
Cambridge, MA 02139-0903
Tel: (617) 969-9570
email: D2002@AppleLink.Apple.com
VPL Research, Inc.
EyePhone: head-mounted display
DataGlove: glove/hand input device
VPL Research Inc.
950 Tower Lane
14th Floor
Foster City, CA 94404
Tel: (415) 312-0200
Fax: (415) 312-9356
SimGraphics Engineering
Flying Mouse: 6d input device
1137 Huntington Rd. Suite A-1
South Pasadena, CA 91030-4563
(213) 255-0900
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13. Background imagery/textures/datafiles
=========================================
First, check in the FTP places that are mentioned in the FAQ or in the FTP
list above.
24-bit scanning:
----------------
Get a good 24-bit scanner, like Epson's. Suggested is an SCSI port for
speed. Eric Haines had a suggestion in RT News, Volume 4, #3 :
scan textures for wallpapers and floor coverings, etc. from doll
house supplies.
So you have a rather cheap way to scan patterns that don't have
scaling troubles associated with real materials and scanning area.
Books with textures:
--------------------
Find some houses/books/magazines that carry photographic material.
Educorp, 1-619-536-9999, sells CD-ROMS with various imagery - also
a wide variety of stock art is available.
Stock art from big-name stock art houses, such as Comstock,
UNIPHOTO, and Metro Image Base, is available.
In Italy, there's a company called Belvedere that makes such books
for the purpose of clipping their pages for inclusion in your
graphics work. Their address is:
Edition Belvedere Co. Ltd.,
00196 Rome Italy,
Piazzale Flaminio, 19
Tel. (06) 360-44-88, Fax (06) 360-29-60
Texture Libraries:
------------------
a. Mannikin Sceptre Graphics announced TexTiles, a set of 256x256 24-bit
textures. Initial shipments in 24-bit IFF (for Amigas), soon in 24-bit
TIFF format. Algorithmically built for tiled surfaces. SRP is $40 / volume
(each volume = 40 images @ 10 disks). Demo disks for $5 are available.
Contact:
Mannikin Sceptre Graphics
1600 Indiana Ave.
Winter Park, FL 32789
Phone: (407) 384-9484
FAX: (407) 647-7242
b. ESSENCE is a library of 65 (sixty-five) new algoritmic textures for Imagine
by Impulse, Inc. These textures are FULLY compatible with the floating point
versions of Imagine 2.0, Imagine 1.1, and even Turbo Silver.
Written by Steve Worley.
For more info contact:
Essence Info
Apex Software Publishing
405 El Camino Real Suite 121
Menlo Park CA 94025 USA
[ What about Texture City ?? ]
==========================================================================
14. Introduction to rendering algorithms
========================================
a. Ray-Tracing:
---------------
I assume you have a general understanding of Computer Graphics. No? Then read
some of the books that the FAQ contains. For Ray-Tracing, I would
suggest:
An Introduction to Ray Tracing, Andrew Glassner (ed.), Academic Press
1989, ISBN 0-12-286160-4
Note that I have not read the book, but I feel that you can't be wrong
using his book. An errata list was posted in comp.graphics by Eric Haines
(erich@eye.com)
There's a more concise reference also:
Roman Kuchkuda , UNC @ Chapel Hill: "An Introduction to Ray Tracing", in
"Theoretical Foundations for Computer Graphics and CAD", ed. R.A.E.Earnshaw,
NATO AS, Vol. F-40., pp. 1039-1060. Printed by Springer-Verlag, 1988.
It contains code for a small, but fundamentally complete ray-tracer.
b. Z-buffer (depth-buffer)
--------------------------
A good reference is:
_Procedural Elements for Computer Graphics_, David F. Rogers,
McGraw-Hill, New York, 1985, pages 265-272 and 280-284.
c. Others:
----------
???
[ More info is needed -- nfotis ]
========================================================================
15. Where can I find the geometric data for the:
================================================
a. Teapot ?
-----------
"Displays on Display" column of IEEE CG&A Jan '87 has the whole
story about origin of the Martin Newell's teapot. The article also has
the bezier patch model and a Pascal program to display the wireframe
model of the teapot.
IEEE CG&A Sep '87 in Jim Blinn's column "Jim Blinn's Corner" describes
an another way to model the teapot; Bezier curves with rotations for
example are used.
The OFF and SPD packages have these objects, so you're advised to get
them to avoid typing the data yourself. The OFF data is triangles at
a specific resolution (around 8x8[x4 triangles] meshing per patch).
The SPD package provides the spline patch descriptions and performs a
tessellation at any specified resolution.
b. Space Shuttle ?
------------------
Tolis Lerios <tolis@nova.stanford.edu> has built a list of Space Shuttle
datafiles. Here's a summary (From his sci.space list):
model1:
A modified version of the newsgroup model (model2)
406 vertices (296 useful, i.e. referred to in the polygon descriptions.)
389 polygons (233 3-vertex, 146 4-vertex, 7 5-vertex, 3 6-vertex).
Payload doors non-existent.
Units: unknown.
Simon Marshall (S.Marshall@sequent.cc.hull.ac.uk) has a copy. He
said there is no proprietary information associated with it.
model2:
The newsgroup model, in OFF format. You can find it in
gondwana.ecr.mu.oz.au , file pub/off/objects/shuttle.geo
hanauma.stanford.edu , /pub/graphics/Comp.graphics/objects/shuttle.data
model3:
The triangles' model.
This model is stored in several files, each defining portions of the model.
Greg Henderson (henders@infonode.ingr.com) has a copy. He did
not mention any restriction on the model's distribution.
model4:
The NASA model.
The file starts off with a header line containing three real numbers,
defining the offsets used by Lockheed in their simulations:
<x offset> <y offset> <z offset>
From then on, the file consists of a sequence of polygon descriptions
3473 vertices.
2748 polygons (407 3-vertex, 2268 4-vertex, 33 5-vertex, 14 6-vertex,
10 7-vertex, 8 8-vertex, 8 12-vertex, 2 13-vertex, 2 15-vertex,
17 16-vertex, 2 17-vertex, 2 18-vertex, 3 19-vertex, 8 24-vertex).
Payload doors closed.
Units: inches.
Jon Berndt (jon@l14h11.jsc.nasa.gov) seems to be responsible for the model
Proprietary info: unknown
model5:
The old shuttle model.
The file consists of a sequence of polygon descriptions.
104 vertices.
452 polygons (11 3-vertex, 41 4-vertex).
Payload doors open.
Units: meters.
We have been using this model at STAR Labs, Stanford University, for
some years now. Contact me (tolis@nova.stanford.edu) or my supervisor
Scott Williams (scott@star5.stanford.edu) if you want a copy.
========================================================================
16. Image annotation software
=============================
a. Touchup runs in Sunview and is pretty good. It reads in
rasterfiles, but even if your image isn't normally stored
in rasterfile format you could use screendump to make it a
rasterfile.
b. Idraw (part of Stanford's InterViews distribution) can handle some
image formats in addition to being a MacDraw like tool. I'm not
sure exactly what they are.
You can ftp the idraw's binary from interviews.stanford.edu.
c. Tgif is another MacDraw like tool that can handle X11 bitmap (xbm)
and X11 pixmap (xpm) formats. If the image you have is in formats
other than xbm or xpm, you can get the pbmplus toolkit to convert
things like gif or even some Macintosh formats to xpm.
Tgif's sources are available in the pub directory on cs.ucla.edu
(Version 2.12 of tgif at patchlevel 7 plus patch8 and patch9)
d. Use the editimage facility of KHOROS (see below).
This is just one utility in the overall system- you can essentially do all
your image processing and macdraw-type graphics using this package.
e. You might be able to get by with PBMPlus. pbmtext gives you text output
bitmaps which can be overlaid on top of your image.
f. 'ice' requires Sun hardware running OpenWindows 3.It's a PostScript-based
graphical editor,and it's available for anonymous ftp from Internet host
eo.soest.hawaii.edu (128.171.151.12). Requires Sun C++ 2.0 and
two other locally developed packages, the LXT library (an Xlib-based
toolkit) and a small C++ class library. All files (pub/ice.tar.Z,
pub/lxt.tar.Z and pub/ldgoc++.tar.Z) are available in compressed
tar format. pub/ice.tar.Z contains a README that gives installation
instructions, as well as an extensive man page (ice.1).
A statically-linked compressed executable pub/ice-sun4.Z for
SPARC systems is also available for ftp.
All software is the property of Columbia University and may not
be redistributed without permission.
ice means Image Composition Environment and it's an imaging tool that
allows raster images to be combined with a wide variety of
PostScript annotations in WYSIWYG fashion via X11 imaging
routines and NeWS PostScript rasterizing.
g. Use ImageMagick to annotate an image from your X server. Pick the
position of your text with the cursor and choose your font and pen
color from a pull-down menu. ImageMagick can read and write many
of the more popular image formats. ImageMagick is available as
export.lcs.mit.edu: contrib/ImageMagick.tar.Z or at your nearest
X11 archive.
========================================================================
17. Scientific visualization stuff
==================================
X Data Slice (xds)
-------------------
Bundled with the X11 distribution from MIT,
in the contrib directory. Available at ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.20.50]
(either as a source or binaries for various platforms).
National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA) Tool Suite
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Platforms: Unix Workstations (DEC, IBM, SGI, Sun)
Apple MacIntosh
Cray supercomputers
Availability: Now available. Source code in the public domain.
FTP from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu.
Contact: National Center for Supercomputing Applications
Computing Applications Building
605 E. Springfield Ave.
Champaign, IL 61820
Cost: Free (zero dollars).
The suite includes tools for 2D image and 3D scene analysis and visualization.
The code is actively maintained and updated.
Spyglass
--------
They sell commercial versions of the NCSA tools. Examples are:
Spyglass Dicer (3D volumetric data analysis package)
Platform: Mac
Spyglass Transform (2D data analysis package)
Platforms: Mac, SGI, Sun, DEC, HP, IBM
Contact:
Spyglass, Inc.
P.O. Box 6388
Champaign, IL 61826
(217) 355-6000
KHOROS 1.0 Patch 5
------------------
Available via anonymous ftp at pprg.eece.unm.edu (129.24.24.10).
cd to /pub/khoros to see what is available. It is HUGE (> 100 MB), but good.
Needs Unix and X11R4. Freely copied (NOT PD), complete with sources
and docs. Very extensive and at its heart is visual programming.
Khoros components include a visual programming language, code
generators for extending the visual language and adding new application
packages to the system, an interactive user interface editor, an
interactive image display package, an extensive library of image and
signal processing routines, and 2D/3D plotting packages.
See comp.soft-sys.khoros on Usenet and the relative FAQ for more info....
Contact:
The Khoros Group
Room 110 EECE Dept.
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM 87131
Email: khoros-request@chama.eece.unm.edu
MacPhase
--------
Analysis & Visualization Application for the Macintosh.
Operates on 1D and 2D data arrays. Import/Export several different file
formats. Several different plotting options such as gray scale,
color raster, 3D Wire frame, 3D surface, contour, vector, line, and
combinations. FFTs, filtering, and other math functions, color look up
editor, array calculator, etc. Shareware, available via anonymous ftp from
sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the info-mac/app directory.
For other information contact Doug Norton (e-mail: 74017.461@@compuserve.com)
IRIS Explorer
-------------
It's an application creation system developed by Silicon
Graphics that provides visualisation and analysis functionality for
computational scientists, engineers and other scientists. The Explorer
GUI allows users to build custom applications without having to write
any, or a minimal amount of, traditonal code. Also, existing code can
be easily integrated into the Explorer environment. Explorer currently
is available now on SGI and Cray machines, but will become available on
other platforms in time. [ Bundled with every new SGI machine, as far as
I know]
See comp.graphics.explorer or comp.sys.sgi for discussion of the package.
There are also two FTP servers for related stuff, modules etc.:
ftp.epcc.ed.ac.uk [129.215.56.29]
swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov [139.88.54.33] - mirror of the UK site
apE
---
Back in the 'old good days', you could get apE for nearly free.
Now has gone commercial and the following vendor supplies it:
TaraVisual Corporation
929 Harrison Avenue
Columbus, Ohio 43215
Tel: 1-800-458-8731 and (614) 291-2912
Fax: (614) 291-2867
Cost:
$895 (plus tax); runtime version with a site-license for a single user
(at a time), no limit on the number of machines in a cluster.
$895 includes support/maintenance and upgrades.
Source code more. Additional user licenses $360.
The name of the package has become apE III (TM).
Khoros is very similar to apE on philosophy, as are AVS and Explorer.
AVS
---
See also:
comp.graphics.avs
Platforms: CONVEX, CRAY, DEC, Evans & Sutherland, HP, IBM, Kubota,
Set Technologies, SGI, Stardent, SUN, Wavetracer
Availability: AVS4 available on all the above:
For all UNIX workstations.
Contact:
Advanced Visual Systems Inc.
300 Fifth Ave.
Waltham, MA 02154
(617)-890-4300 Telephone
(617)-890-8287 Fax
avs@avs.com Email
Advanced Visual Systems Inc. for: CRAY, HP, IBM, SGI, Stardent, SUN
CONVEX for CONVEX
Advanced Visual Systems Inc. or CRAY for CRAY
DEC for DEC
Evans & Sutherland for Evans & Sutherland
Advanced Visual Systems Inc. or IBM for IBM
Kubota Pacific Inc. for Kubota
Set Technologies for Set Technologies
Wavetracer for Wavetracer
FTP Site: for modules, data sets, other info:
avs.ncsc.org (128.109.178.23)
WIT
---
In a nutshell it's a package of the same genre as AVS,Explorer,etc.
It seems more a image processing system than a generic SciVi system (IMHO)
Major elements are:
- a visual programming language, which automatically exploits the inherent
parallelism
- a code generator which converts the graph to a standalone program
Iconified libraries present a rich set of point, filter, io, transform,
morphological, segmentation, and measurement operations.
A flow library allows graphs to employ broadcast, merge,
synchronization, conditional, and sequencing control strategies.
WIT delivers an object-oriented, distributed, visual programming
environment which allows users to rapidly design solutions to their
imaging problems. Users can consolidate both software and hardware
developments within a complete CAD-like workspace by adding their
own operators (C functions), objects (data structures), and servers
(specialized hardware). WIT runs on Sun, HP9000/7xx, SGI and supports
Datacube MV-20/200 hardware allowing you to run your graphs in real-time.
For a free WIT demo disk, call, FAX, or e-mail (poon@ee.ubc.ca)
us stating your complete name, address, voice, FAX, e-mail info.
and desired platform.
Pricing: WIT for Sparc, one yr. free upgrades, 30 days
technical support....................$5000 US
Academic institutions: discounts available
Contact:
Logical Vision Ltd.
Suite 108-3700 Gilmore Way
Burnaby, B.C., CANADA
V5G 4M1
Tel: 604-435-2587
Fax: 604-435-8840
Terry Arden <poon@ee.ubc.ca>
VIS-5D
------
A system for visually exploring the output of 5-D gridded data sets
such as those made by weather models. Platforms:
SGI IRIS with VGX, GTX, TG, or G graphics,
SGI Crimson or Indigo (R4000, Elan graphics suggested), IRIX 4.0.x
IBM RS/6000 with GL graphics, AIX version 3 or later;
Stardent GS-1000 and GS-2000 (with TrueColor display)
In any case, 32 (or more) MB of RAM are suggested.
You can get it freely (thanks to NASA support) via anonymous ftp:
ftp iris.ssec.wisc.edu (or ftp 144.92.108.63), then
ftp> cd pub/vis5d
ftp> ascii
ftp> get README
ftp> bye
NOTE: You can find the package also on wuarchive.wustl.edu in the
graphics/graphics/packages directory.
Read section 2 of the README file for full instructions
on how to get and install VIS-5D.
Contact:
Bill Hibbard (whibbard@vms.macc.wisc.edu)
Brian Paul (bpaul@vms.macc.wisc.edu)
DATAexplorer (IBM)
------------------
Platforms : IBM Risc System 6000, IBM POWER Visualization Server
(SIMD mesh 32 i860s, 40 MHz)
Working on (announced) : SGI, HP, Sun
Contact:
Your local IBM Rep. For a trial package ask your rep to contact :
David Kilgore
Data Explorer Product Marketing
YKTVMH(KILCORE), (708) 981-4510
Wavefront
---------
Data Visualizer, Personal Visualizer, Advanced Visualizer.
Platforms: SGI, SUN, IBM RS6000, HP, DEC
Availability:
Available on all the above platforms from Wavefront
Technologies. Educational programs and site licenses are
available.
Contacts:
Mike Wilson (mike@wti.com)
Wavefront Technologies, Inc.
530 East Montecito Street
Santa Barbara, CA 93103
805-962-8117
FAX: 805-963-0410
Wavefront Europe
Guldenspoorstraat 21-23
B-9000 Gent, Belgium
32-91-25-45-55
FAX: 32-91-23-44-56
Wavefront Technologies Japan
17F Shinjuku-sumitomo Bldg
2-6-1 Nishi-shinjuku, Shunjuku-Ku
Tokyo 168 Japan
81-3-3342-7330
FAX 81-3-3342-7353
PLOT3D and FAST from NASA Ames
------------------------------
These packages are distributed from COSMIC at least
(for FAST ask Pat Elson <pelson@nas.nasa.gov> for
distribution information). In general, these codes are for US
citizens only :-(
XGRAPH
------
On the contrib tape of X11R5. Its specialty is display of up
to 64 data sets (2D).
NCAR
----
National Center for Atmospheric Research. One of the original graphics
packages. Runs on Sun, RS6000, SGI, VAX, Cray Y-MP, DecStations, and more.
Contact:
Graphics Information
NCAR Scientific Computing Division
P.O. Box 3000
Boulder, CO 80307-3000
(303)-497-1201
scdinfo@ncar.ucar.edu
Cost:
.edu
$750 Unlimited users
.gov
$750 1 user
$1500 5 users
$3000 25 users
.com users multiply .gov * 2.0
IDL
---
An environment for scientific computing and visualization.
Based on an array oriented language, IDL includes 2D and 3D
graphics, matrix manupulation, signal and image processing,
basic statistics, gridding, mapping, and a widget based system
for building GUI for IDL applications (Open Look, Motif, or
MS-Windows).
Environments: DEC (VMS and Ultrix), HP, IBM RS6000, SGI, Sun,
Microsoft Windows. (Mac version in progress)
Cost: $1500 to $3750, Educational and quantity discounts
available.
See also: comp.lang.idl-pvwave (the IDL-PVWAVE bundle)
Contact: Research Systems Inc.
777 29th Street, Suite 302
Boulder, CO 80303
Phone: 303-786-9900
FAX: 303-786-9909
E-mail: info@rsinc.com
Demo available via FTP. Call or E-mail for details.
IDL/SIPS
--------
"A lot of people are using IDL with a package called SIPS. This was
developed at the University of Colorado (Boulder) by some people working
for Alex Goetz. You might try contacting them if you already have IDL
or would be willing to buy it. It's a few thousand dollars (American) I
expect for IDL and the other should be free. Those are the general
purpose packages I've heard of, besides what TerraMar has.
SIPS _was_ written for AVIRIS imagery. I'm not sure how general purpose
it is. You would have to contact Goetz or one of his people and ask. I
have another piece of software (PCW) that does PC and Walsh
transformations with pseudocoloring and clustering and limited image
modification (you can compute an image using selected components). I've
used it on 70 megabyte AVIRIS images without problems, but for the best
speed you need an external DSP card. It will work without it, but large
images take quite a while (50-70 times as long) to process. That's a
freebie if you want it"
"My favorite is IDL (Interactive Data Language) from Research Systems,
Inc. IDL is in my opinion, much better and infinitely easier. Its
programming language is very strong and easy -- very Pascal-like. It
handles the number-crunching very well, also. Personally, I like doing
the number-crunching with IDL on the VAX (or Mathematica, Igor, or even
Excel on the Mac if it's not too hairy), then bringing it over to NIH
Image for the imaging part. I have yet to encounter any situation which
that combination couldn't handle, and the speed and ease of use
(compared to IRAF) was incredible. By the way, it's mostly astronomical
image processing which I've been doing. This means image enhancement,
cleaning up bad lines/pixels, and some other traditional image
processing routines. Then, for example, taking a graph of intensity
versus position along a line I choose with the mouse, then doing a curve
fit to that line (which I might do like in KaleidaGraph.) "
[ For IDL call Research Systems , for PV-WAVE call Precision Visuals and
for SIPS call University of Colorado @ Boulder . From what I can
understand, you can get packaged programs from Research Systems, though
-- nfotis ]
Visual3
-------
contact Robert Haimes, MIT
FieldView
---------
An interactive program designed to assist an engineer in
investigating fluid dynamics data sets.
Platforms: SGI, IBM, HP, SUN, X-terminals
Availability: Currently available on all of the above
platforms. Educational programs and volume
discounts are available.
Contact:
Intelligent Light
P.O. Box 65
Fair Lawn, NJ 07410
(201)794-7550
Steve Kramer (kramer@ilight.com)
SciAn
------
SciAn is primarily intended to do 3-D visualizations of data in an
interactive environment with the ability to generate animations using
frame-accurate video recording devices. A user manual, on-line help, and
technical notes will help you use the program.
Cost : 0 (Free), source code provided via ftp.
Platforms : SGI 4D machines and IBM RS/6000 with the GL card + Z-buffer
Where to find it:
ftp.scri.fsu.edu [144.174.128.34] : /pub/SciAn
A mirror is monu1.cc.monash.edu.au [130.194.1.101] : /pub/SciAn
SCRY
----
[ From the README : ]
Scry is a distributed image handling system that pro-
vides image transport and compression on local and wide area
networks, image viewing on workstations, recording on video
equipment, and storage on disk. The system can be distri-
buted among workstations, between supercomputers and works-
tations, and between supercomputers, workstations and video
animation controllers. The system is most commonly used to
produce video based movie displays of images resulting from
visualization of time dependent data, complex 3D data sets,
and image processing operations. Both the clients and
servers run on a variety of systems that provide UNIX-like C
run-time environments, and 4BSD sockets.
The source is available for anonymous ftp:
csam.lbl.gov [128.3.254.6] : pub/scry.tar.Z
Contact:
Bill Johnston, (wejohnston@lbl.gov, ...ucbvax!csam.lbl.gov!johnston)
or
David Robertson (dwrobertson@lbl.gov, ...ucbvax!csam.lbl.gov!davidr)
Imaging Technologies Group
MS 50B/2239
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
1 Cyclotron Road
Berkeley, CA 94720
SVLIB / FVS
-----------
SVLIB is an X-Windows widget set based on the OSF (Open Software
Foundation) Motif widget set. SVLIB widgets are macro-widgets
comprising lower level Motif widgets such as buttons, scrollbars,
menus, and drawing areas. It is designed to address the reusability
of 2D visualization routines and each widget in the library is an
encapsulation of a specific visualization technique such as colormap
manipulation, image display, and contour plotting. It is targetted
to run on UNIX workstations supporting OSF/Motif. Currently, only
color monitors are supported. Since SVLIB is a collection of widgets
developed in the same spirit as the OSF/Motif user interface widget
set, it integrates seamlessly with the Motif widgets. Programmers
using SVLIB widgets see the same interface and design as other
Motif widgets.
FVS is a visualization software for Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD)
simulations. FVS is designed to accept data generated from these
simulations and apply various visualization techniques to present these
data graphically.
FVS accepts three-dimensional multi-block data recorded in NCSA HDF format.
iti.gov.sg [192.122.132.130] : /pub/svlib (Scientific Visualization)
/pu/fvs; These directories contain demo binaries for Sun4/SGI
Cost : US$200 for academic and US$300 for non-academic institutions.
(For each of the above items). You're getting the source for the licence.
Contact
-------
Miss Quek Lee Hian
Member of Technical Staff
Information Technology Institute
National Computer Board
NCB Building
71, Sicence Park Drive
Singapore 0511
Republic of Singapore
Tel : (65)7720435
Fax : (65)7795966
Email : leehian@iti.gov.sg
---------------------------------------------------------
GVLware Distribution:
Bob - An interactive volume renderer for the SGI
Raz - A disk based movie player for the SGI
Icol - Motif color editor
---------------------------------------------------------
The Army High Performance Computing Research Center (AHPCRC) has been
developing a set of tools to work with large time dependent 2D and 3D
data sets. In the Graphics and Visualization Lab (GVL) we are using
these tools along side standard packages, such as SGI Explorer and the
Utah Raster Toolkit, to render 3D volumes and create digital movies.
A couple of the more general purpose programs have been bundled into a
package called "GVLware".
GVLware, currently consisting of Bob, Raz and Icol, is now available
via ftp. The most interesting program is probably Bob, an interactive
volume renderer for the SGI. Raz streams raster images from disk to
an SGI screen, enabling movies larger than memory to be played. Icol
is a color map editor that works with Bob and Raz. Source and
pre-built binaries for IRIX 4.0.5 are included.
To acquire GVLware, anonymous ftp to:
machine - ftp.arc.umn.edu
file - /pub/gvl.tar.Z
To use GVLware:
mkdir gvl ; cd gvl
zcat gvl.tar.Z | tar xvf -
more README
Some Bob features:
Motif interface, SGI GL rendering
Renders 64 cubed data set in 0.1 to 1.0 seconds on a VGX
Alpha Compositing and Maximum Value rendering, in perspective
(only Maximum Value rendering on Personal Iris)
Data must be a "Brick of Bytes", on a regularly spaced grid
Animation, subvolumes, subsampling, stereo
Some Raz features:
Motif interface, SGI GL rendering
Loads files to a raw disk partition, then streams to screen
(requires an empty disk partition to be set aside)
Script interface available for movie sequences
Can stream from memory, like NCSA XImage
Some Icol features:
Motif interface
Easy to create interpolated color maps between key points
RGB, HSV and YUV color spaces, multiple file formats
Communicates changes automatically to Bob and Raz
Has been tested on SGI, Sun, DEC and Cray systems
BTW: Bob == Brick of Bytes
Icol == Interpolated Color
Raz == ? (just a name)
Please send any comments to
gvlware@ahpcrc.umn.edu
This software collection is supported by the Army Research Office
contract number DAALO3-89-C-0038 with the University of Minnesota Army
High Performance Computing Research Center.
IAP
---
Imaging Applications Platform is a commercial package for medical and
scientific visualization. It does volume rendering, binary surface
rendering, multiplanar reformating, image manipulation, cine sequencing,
intermixes geometry and text with images and provides measurement and
coordinate transform abilities.
It can provide hardcopy on most medical film printers, image database
functionality and interconnection to most medical (CT/MRI/etc) scanners.
It is client/server based and provides an object oriented interface. It
runs on most high performance workstations and takes full advantage of
parallelism where it is available. It is robust, efficient and
will be submitted for FDA approval for use in medical applications.
Cost: $20K for OEM developer, $10K for educational developer
and run times starting at $8900 and going down based on quantity.
The developer packages include two days training for two people in Toronto.
Available from:
ISG Technologies
6509 Airport Road
Mississauga, Ontario,
Canada, L4V-1S7
(416) 672-2100
e-mail: Rod Gilchrist <rod@isgtec.com>
========================================================================
18. Molecular visualization stuff
=================================
[ Based on a list from cristy@dupont.com < Cristy > , which asked for
systems for displaying Molecular Dynamics, MD for short ]
Flex
----
It is a public domain package written by Michael Pique, at The Scripps
Research Institute, La Jolla, CA. Flex is stored as a compressed,
tar'ed archive (about 3.4MB) at perutz.scripps.edu [137.131.152.27], in
pub/flex. It displays molecular models and MD trajectories.
MacMolecule
-----------
(for Macintosh). I searched with Archie, and the most
promising place is sumex-aim.stanford.edu (info-mac/app, and
info-mac/art/qt for a demo)
MD-DISPLAY
----------
Runs on SGI machines. Call Terry Lybrand (lybrand@milton.u.washington.edu).
XtalView
--------
It is a crystallography package that does visualize molecules and much more.
It uses the XView toolkit.
Call Duncan McRee <dem@scripps.edu>
landman@hal.physics.wayne.edu:
-----------------------------
I am writing my own visualization code right now. I look at MD output
(a specific format, easy to alter for the subroutine) on PC's. My
program has hooks into GKS. If your friend has access to Phigs for X
(PEX) and fortran bindings, I would be happy to share my evolving code
(free of charge). Right now it can display supercells of up to 65
atoms (easy to change), and up to 100 time steps, drawing nearest
neighbor bonds between 2 defining nn radii. It works acceptably fast
on a 10Mhz 286.
icsg0001@caesar.cs.montana.edu:
------------------------------
I did a project on Molecular Visualization for my Master's Thesis, using
UNIX/X11/Motif which generates a simple point and space-filling model.
KGNGRAF
-------
KGNGRAF is part of MOTECC-91. Look on malena.crs4.it (156.148.7.12),
in pub/motecc.
motecc.info.txt Information about MOTECC-91 in plain ascii format.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
motecc.info.troff Information about MOTECC-91 in troff format.
motecc.form.troff MOTECC-91 order form in troff format.
motecc.license.troff MOTECC-91 license agreement in troff format.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
motecc.info.ps Information about MOTECC-91 in PostScript format.
motecc.form.ps MOTECC-91 order form in PostScript format.
motecc.license.ps MOTECC-91 license agreement in PostScript format.
ditolla@itnsg1.cineca.it:
------------------------
I'm working on molecular dynamic too. A friend of mine and I have
developed a program to display an MD run dynamically on Silicon
Graphics. We are working to improve it, but it doesn't work under X,
we are using the graphi. lib. of the Silicon Gr. because they are much
faster then X. When we'll end it we'll post on the news info about
where to get it with ftp. (Will be free software).
XBall V2.0
----------
Written by David Nedde. Call daven@maxine.wpi.edu.
XMol
----
An X Window System program that uses OSF/Motif for the
display and analysis of molecular model data. Data from several
common file formats can be read and written; current formats include:
Alchemy, CHEMLAB-II, Gaussian, MOLSIM, MOPAC, PDB, and MSCI's XYZ
format (which has been designed for simplicity in translating to
and from other formats). XMol also allows for conversion between
several of these formats.
Xmol is available at ftp.msc.edu. Read pub/xmol/README for
further details.
INSIGHT II
----------
from BIOSYM Technologies Inc.
SCARECROW
---------
The program has been published in J. Molecular Graphics 10
(1992) 33. The program can analyze and display CHARMM, DISCOVER, YASP
and MUMOD trajectories. The program package contains also software for
the generation of probe surfaces, proton affinity
surfaces and molecular orbitals from an extended Huckel program.
It works on Silicon Graphics machines.
Contact Leif Laaksonen <Leif.Laaksonen@csc.fi or laaksone@csc.fi>
MULTI
-----
ns.niehs.nih.gov [157.98.8.8] : /pub - MULTI 3.0 (Multi-Process
Molecular Modeling Suite)
+MindTool
+--------
+ It runs under SunView, and requires a fortran compiler and Sun's CGI
+ libraries. MindTool is a tool provided for the interactive graphic
+ manipulation of molecules and atoms. Currently, up to 10,000
+ atoms may be input.
+ Available via anonymous FTP, at rani.chem.yale.edu, directory
+ /pub/MindTool ( Check with Archie for other sites if that's too far )
[ I would also suggest looking at least in SGI's Applications Directory.
It contains many more packages - nfotis ]
===========================================================================
19. GIS (Geographical Information Systems software)
===================================================
GRASS
-----
(Geographic Resource Analysis Support System) of the US Army
Construction Engineering Research Lab (CERL). It is a popular geographic and
remote sensing image processing package. Many may think of GRASS as a
Geographic Information System rather than an Image Processing package,
although it is reported to have significant image processing
capabilities.
Feature Descriptions
I use GRASS because it's public domain and can be obtained through the
internet for free. GRASS runs in Unix and is written in C. The source
code can be obtained through an anonymous ftp from the Office of Grass
Integration. You then compile the source code for your machine, using
scripts provided with GRASS. I would recommend GRASS for someone who
already has a workstation and is on a limited budget. GRASS is not very
user-friendly, compared to Macintosh software." A first review of
overview documentation indicates that it looks useful and has some pixel
resampling functions not in other packages plus good general purpose
image enhancement routines (fft). Kelly Maurice at Vexcel Corp. in
Boulder, CO is a primary user of GRASS . This gentleman has used the
GRASS software and developed multi-spectral (238 bands ??) volumetric
rendering, full color, on Suns and Stardents. It was a really effective
interface. Vexcel Corp. currently has a contract to map part of Venus
and convert the Magellan radar data into contour maps. You can call them
at (303) 444-0094 or email care of greg@vexcel.com 192.92.90.68
Host Configuration Requirements
If you are willing to run A/UX you could install GRASS on a Macintosh
which has significant image analysis and import capabilities for
satellite data. GRASS is public-domain, and can run on a high-end PC
under UNIX. It is raster-based, has some image-processing capability,
and can display vector data (but analysis must be done in the raster
environment). I have used GRASS V.3 on a SUN workstation and found it
easy to use. It is best, of course, for data that are well represented
in raster (grid-cell) form.
Availability
CERL's Office of Grass Integration (OGI) maintains an ftp server:
moon.cecer.army.mil (129.229.20.254).
Mail regarding this site should be addressed to
grass-ftp-admin@moon.cecer.army.mil.
This location will be the new "canonical" source for GRASS software, as
well as bug fixes, contributed sources, documentation, and other files.
This FTP server also supports dynamic compression and uncompression and
"tar" archiving of files. A feature attraction of the server is John
Parks' GRASS tutorial. Because the manual is still in beta-test stage,
John requests that people only acquire it if they are willing to review
it and mail him comments/corrections. The OGI is not currently
maintaining this document, so all correspondence about it should be
directed to grassx@tang.uark.edu
Support
Listserv mailing lists:
grassu-list@amber.cecer.army.mil (for GRASS users; application-level
questions, support concerns, miscellaneous questions, etc) Send
subscribe commands to grassu-request@amber.cecer.army.mil.
grassp-list@amber.cecer.army.mil (for GRASS programmers; system-level
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Microstation Imager
-------------------
Intergraph (based in Huntsville Alabama) sells a wide range of GIS
software/hardware. Microstation is a base graphics package that Imager
sits on top of. Imager is basically an image processing package with a
heavy GIS/remote sensing flavor.
Feature Description
Basic geometry manipulations: flip, mirror, rotate, generalized affine.
Rectification: Affine, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th order models as well as a
projective model (warp an image to a vector map or to another image).
RGB to IHS and IHS to RGB conversion. Principal component analysis.
Classification: K-means and isodata. Fourier Xforms: Forward, filtering
and reverse. Filters: High pass, low pass, edge enhancing, median,
generic. Complex Histogram/Contrast control. Layer Controller: manages
up to 64 images at a time -- user can extract single bands from a 3 band
image or create color images by combining various individual bands, etc.
The package is designed for a remote sensing application (it can handle
VERY LARGE images) and there is all kinds of other software available
for GIS applications.
Host Configuration Requirements
It runs on Intergraph Workstations (a Unix machine similar to a Sun)
though there were rumors (there are always rumors) that the software
would be ported to PC and possibly a Sun environment.
PCI
---
A company called PCI, Inc., out of Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada, makes
an array of software utilities for processing, manipulation, and use of
remote sensing data in eight or ten different "industry standard"
formats: LGSOWG, BSQ, LANDSAT, and a couple of others whose titles I
forget. The software is available in versions for MS-DOS, Unix
workstations (among them HP, Sun, and IBM), and VMS, and quite possibly
other platforms by now. I use the VMS version.
The "PCI software" consists of several classes/groups/packages of
utilities, grouped by function but all operating on a common "PCI
database" disk file. The "Tape I/O" package is a set of utility
programs which read from the various remote-sensing industry tape
formats INTO, or write those formats out FROM, the "PCI database" file;
this is the only package I use or know much about. Other packages can
display data from the PCI database to one or another of several
PCI-supported third-party color displays, output numeric or bitmap
representation of image data to an attached printer, e.g. an Epson-type
dot-matrix graphics printer. You might be more spe- cifically
interested in the mathematical operations package: histo- gram and
Fourier analysis, equalization, user-specified operations (e.g.
"multiply channel 1 by 3, add channel 2, and store as channel 5"), and
God only knows what all else -- there's a LOT. I don't have and don't
use these, so can't say much about them; you only buy the packages your
particular application/interest calls for.
Each utility is controlled by from one to eight "parameters," read from
a common "parameter file" which must be (in VMS anyway) in your "default
directory." Some utilities will share parameters and use the same
parameter for a different purpose, so it can get a bit confusing setting
up a series of operations. The standard PCI environment contains a
scripting language very similar to IBM-PC BASIC, but which allows you to
automate the process of setting up parameters for a common, complicated,
lengthy or difficult series of utility executions. (In VMS I can also
invoke utilities independently from a DCL command procedure.) There's
also an optional programming library which allows you to write compiled
language programs which can interface with (read from/write to) the PCI
data structures (database file, parameter file).
The PCI software is designed specifically for remote-sensing images, but
requires such a level of operator expertise that, once you reach the
level where you can handle r-s images, you can figure out ways to handle
a few other things as well. For instance, the Tape I/O package offers a
utility for reading headerless multi-band (what Adobe PhotoShop on the
Macintosh calls "raw") data from tape, in a number of different
"interleave" orders. This turns out to be ideal for manipulating the
graphic-arts industry's "CT2T" format, would probably (I haven't tried)
handle Targa, and so on. Above all, however, you HAVE TO KNOW WHAT
YOU'RE DOING or you can screw up to the Nth degree and have to start
over. It's worth noting that the PCI "database" file is designed to
contain not only "raster" (image) data, but vectors (for overlaying map
information entered via digitizing table), land-use, and all manner of
other information (I observe that a remote-sensing image tape often
contains all manner of information about the spectral bands, latitude,
longitude, time, date, etc. of the original satellite pass; all of this
can go into the PCI "database").
I _believe_ that on workstations the built-in display is used. On VAX
systems OTHER than workstations PCI supports only a couple of specific
third-party display systems (the name Gould/Deanza seems to come to
mind). One of MY personal workarounds was a display program which would
display directly from a PCI "database" file to a Peritek VCT-Q (Q-bus
24-bit DirectColor) display subsystem. PCI software COULD be "overkill"
in your case; it seems designed for the very "high end"
applications/users, i.e. those for whom a Mac/PC largely doesn't suffice
(although as you know the gap is getting smaller all the time). It's
probably no coincidence that PCI is located in Canada, a country which
does a LOT of its land/resource management via remote sensing; I believe
the Canadian government uses PCI software for some of its work in these
areas.
SPAM (Spectral Analysis Manager)
--------------------------------
Back in 1985 JPL developed something called SPAM (Spectral Analysis
Manager) which got a fair amount of use at the time. That was designed
for Airborne Imaging Spectrometer imagery (byte data, <= 256 pixels
across by <= 512 lines by <= 256 bands); a modified version has since
been developed for AVIRIS (Airborne VIsual and InfraRed Imaging
Spectrometer) which uses much larger images.
Spam does none of these things (rectification, classification, PC and
IHS transformations, filtering, contrast enhancement, overlays).
Actually, it does limited filtering and contrast enhancement
(stretching). Spam is aimed at spectral identification and clustering.
The original Spam uses X or SunView to display. The AVIRIS version may
require VICAR, an executive based on TAE, and may also require a frame
buffer. I can refer you to people if you're interested. PCW requires X
for display.
MAP II
------
Among the Mac GIS systems, MAP II is distributed by John Wiley.
CLRview
-------
CLRview is a 3-dimensional visualization program designed to exploit
the real-time capabilities of Silicon Graphics IRIS computers.
This program is designed to provide a core set of tools to aid in the
visualization of information from CAD and GIS sources. It supports
the integration of many common but disperate data sources such as DXF,
TIN, DEM, Lattices, and Arc/Info Coverages among others.
CLRview can be obtained from explorer.dgp.utoronto.ca (128.100.1.129)
in the directory pub/sgi/clrview.
Contact:
Rodney Hoinkes
Head of Design Applications
Centre for Landscape Research
University of Toronto
Tel: (416) 978-7197
Email: rodney@dgp.utoronto.ca
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6720 | From: uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun)
Subject: WinMarks? Where can I get it
Article-I.D.: crash.1993Apr05.152921.24454
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Lines: 6
Where can I get the Winmarks benchmark to run on my PC?
via ftp would be best.
-Roger
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bix: ruzun
NET: uzun@crash.cts.com
|
6721 | From: rsf@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (roberto.s.freire)
Subject: Fluke Scopemeter
Organization: AT&T
Lines: 14
Has anybody out there used/tested these new Fluke Scopemeters?
How do they compare to a low-end Tectronix oscilloscope? Are
there any big drawbacks about these handheld scopes when
compared to the benchtop scopes of the same price range
($1000-$2000)?
Any info on the Fluke Scopemeters would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Bob Freire
rsf@houxa.att.com
|
6722 | From: ucer@ee.rochester.edu (Kamil B. Ucer)
Subject: Re: Turkey-Cyprus-Bosnia-Serbia-Greece (Armenia-Azeris)
Organization: University of Rochester Department of Electrical Engineering
In article <1993Apr23.002811.22496@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> 2120788@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:
>I've heard many Turks say this and it surpises me that they don't read about
>it.Remember the Treaty of Sevres-as a consequence of being in the Axis powers
>in WWI.The Turks UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW were supposed to look after their
>minorities ie. Greeks,Armenians,Kurds(I must say Turk-Kurd relations are
>improving slightly with time) and not pose a threat to Turkey's neighbours.
>The Turks blatantly rejected this treaty(the Germans grudgingly accepted
>Versailles which was a million times worse for the health and pride of the
>German people).The Greeks who had an army there,were there with BRITISH
>and FRENCH backing to enforce Sevres.
> In possibly the first example of appeasement the Young Turk government
>managed screwed the Treaty of Laussane out of the weak allies,this was after
>the Greek forces were were destroyed at Smyrna.When this occurred incidently,
>FRENCH warships were in the harbour and many Greeks trying escape swam to the
>FRENCH warships and climbed aboard only to get their arms cut off by the FRENCH
>as they clawed they're way up the sides of the ships.
>Libertae,egalitae,fraternatae.
It seems to me that you are the one who is supposed to do some reading. I think
that our major difference in opinion is on the legitimacy of Sevres. First, thattreaty was signed by the Ottoman Empire therefore legally it does not bind the
Republic of Turkey. The new independence movement (which by the way, is not the same as the Young Turks) naturally rejected it out of hand. to say that we
should accept because the Germans did theirs is absurd. We saw what the cosequences of such harsh treaties were in Hitler. Second, the Sevres treaty was even
worse than Versailles. It divided the Ottoman Empire in to several influence
zones, had the capital occupied, the economy under Allied control, the army di
minished to nothing but a police force, in short a country in name only. I'd
wonder if you would like to live under such conditions. And for the record, I donot feel sorry for the soldiers killed in IZMIR harbour. Before evacuating the
city, the Greek forces burned it down, so it serves them right.
As for being fooled by Allied promises, that too is your fault. You did not come to Anatolia just to enforce Sevres but to take part in the plunder as well.
K. Burak Ucer
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6723 | From: myless@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Myles Strous)
Subject: J.C.Jensen's bitmap code
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Lines: 18
Greetings all.
According to a FAQ I read, on 30 July 1992, Joshua C. Jensen posted an
article on bitmap manipulation (specifically, scaling and perspective) to the
newsgroup rec.games.programmer. (article 7716)
The article included source code in Turbo Pascal with inline assembly
language.
I have been unable to find an archive for this newsgroup, or a current
email address for Joshua C. Jensen.
If anyone has the above details, or a copy of the code, could they
please let me know. Many thanks.
Yours gratefully, etc. Myles.
--
Myles Strous | Email: myles.strous@lib.monash.edu.au
raytracing fan | Phone: +61.51.226536
"Got the same urgent grasp of reality as a cardboard cut-out. Proud to have him
on the team." Archchancellor Mustrum Ridcully, in Reaper Man by Terry Pratchett
|
6724 | From: lynn@pacesetter.com (Lynn E. Hall)
Subject: Re: story
Keywords: PARTY!!!!
Nntp-Posting-Host: camellia
Organization: Siemens Pacesetter, Inc.
Lines: 20
>lynn@pacesetter.com (Lynn E. Hall) writes:
>
>>allowed (yes, there is a God). No open containers on the street was the
>>signs in the bars. Yeah, RIGHT! The 20 or so cops on hand for the couple of
>>thousand of bikers in a 1 block main street were not citing anyone. The
>>street was filled with empty cans at least 2 feet deep in the gutter. The
>>crowd was raisin' hell - tittie shows everywhere. Can you say PARTY?
>
>
>And still we wonder why they stereotype us...
>
>-Erc.
Whacha mean 'we'...ifin they (whom ever 'they' are) want to stereotype me
as one that likes to drink beer and watch lovely ladies display their
beautiful bodies - I like that stereotype.
If you were refering 'stereotype' to infer a negative - you noticed we
didn't rape, pillage, or burn down the town. We also left mucho bucks as in
MONEY with the town. Me thinks the town LIKES us. Least they said so.
Lynn Hall - NOS Bros
|
6725 | From: eric@sad.hp.com (Eric Lucas)
Subject: Clifford Delta car alarm?
Organization: HP Sonoma County (SRSD/MWTD/MID)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
Lines: 9
Just found a great deal on a Clifford Delta car alarm, $450 installed.
Comes with glass break sensor, motion detector, and shock detector. Does
anyone have one of these alarms? Are they any good? From the looks of it, its
about the best on the market for the price. It's also on sale, so that's
another reason to get it. I think I'll be saving almost $200. Any opinions?
Eric Lucas
|
6726 | From: dpc47852@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel Paul Checkman)
Subject: Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 26
dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <1qnns0$4l3@agate.berkeley.edu> spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:
>>The mass of anectdotal evidence, combined with the lack of
>>a properly constructed scientific experiment disproving
>>the hypothesis, makes the MSG reaction hypothesis the
>>most likely explanation for events.
>You forgot the smiley-face.
>I can't believe this is what they turn out at Berkeley. Tell me
>you're an aberration.
>--
>Steve Dyer
>dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
HEY, KEEP YOUR FU---NG FLAMING OUT OF THIS GROUP- THAT GOES FOR YOU, MR.
DYER, AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHER NASTY, SARCASTIC PEOPLE, REGARDING THIS
SUBJECT. Shoot, now I'm all riled up, too, and I was just going to ask if
we can keep our discussion about MSG a little more civil; blasting a school
or an idea through simple insults as demonstrated above is not necessary,
and otherwise out of line. If you want to continue your insult war, take
it elsewhere and stop wasting everyone else's time.
Most sincerely,
Dan Checkman
|
6727 | From: guykuo@carson.u.washington.edu (Guy Kuo)
Subject: Re: Adding int. hard disk drive to IIcx
Organization: University of Washington
Lines: 15
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu
Keywords: Mac IIcx, internal, hard disk drive, SCSI
Yes, it is possible to add a second hard drive to a mac IIcx internally. This
is definitely not a recommended procedure by Apple but I have done the equivalent to my CX after upgrading it to a Quadra 700. The power supply is still the
stock CX's and it was able to power two Quantum LPS drives, a PLI SCSI
accelerator, a Micron technologies 24 bit video board, Daystar QuickCache,
New Technologies Overdrive and 20 meg of RAM simultaneously.
I added a new mount for the drive by attaching angle brackets to the drive
tower. The internal SCSI cable was changed to a longer flat ribbon cable onto
which I added an extra connector about midway. The final HD was internally
terminated and the drive between the motherboard and final HD had its terminator resistor packs removed. Cooling has not been a problem and no SCSI problems
occur with either the PLI SCSI chain or motherboard SCSI hooked into the two
internal hard drives.
It works very well for me, but proceed cautiously if you wish to do the same.
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6728 | From: jeq@lachman.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Please Gentlemen
Nntp-Posting-Host: birdie.i88.isc.com
Organization: Lachman Technology, Incorporated, Naperville, IL
Lines: 21
In article <5036@cvbnetPrime.COM> tjohnson@tazmanian.prime.com (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317) writes:
>In article <18843.1076.uupcb@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> grant.barkwell@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Grant Barkwell) writes:
>>
>>CP>Too my certain knowledge, simply posessing a motorcycle
>>CP>can get you "laid".
>>
>>True! Oh so very thankfully true!
>
>Gentlemen;
>
> Please do us all a rather appropriate favor and excuse the
>comments about your sexual fortunes on the net. It is hardly an
Tod, I think you've misspoke. If they're banking on owning a motorcycle
to get them laid, then I doubt they have sexual fortunes. Quite the
reverse...
--
Jonathan E. Quist jeq@lachman.com Lachman Technology, Incorporated
DoD #094, KotPP, KotCF '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep" Naperville, IL
__ There's nothing quite like the pitter-patter of little feet,
\/ followed by the words "Daddy! Yay!"
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6729 | From: jeroeng@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Jeroen Gremmen)
Subject: Re: DOS 6 vfintd.386 and Windows sys.ini
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
Lines: 16
NNTP-Posting-Host: blade.stack.urc.tue.nl
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Peter P. Lei (lei@rtsg.mot.com) wrote:
:
: Does anyone know what the vfintd.386 device is used for in windows 3.1?
: It's under the [386enh] section as
: device=c:\dos\vfintd.386
:
I know Norton Desktop for Windows includes this file and its help file
mentioned something about floppy-disk access.
Jeroen
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J.C.A. Gremmen Email: jeroeng@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl
Gildelaan 34 Phone: 04255-3411 (No modem or fax pleez!)
5081 PH Hilvarenbeek
|
6730 | From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: ATF BURNS DIVIDIAN RANCH! NO SURVIVORS!!!
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Lines: 38
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dale.handheld.com
In article <C5sv88.HJy@news.cso.uiuc.edu> irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent
Irvine) writes:
> In article <1r1j3n$4t@transfer.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D.
Tavares) writes:
> >In article <1r19tp$5em@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, mfrhein@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael
Frederick Rhein) writes:
> >
> >> >napalm, then let the wood stove inside ignite it.
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> As someone else has pointed out, why would the stove be in use on a warm
day
> >> in Texas.
> >
> >Do YOU eat all your food cold?
>
> Ever hear of electric ovens or microwaves? Very popular.
> Electric stoves outside metro-areas especially.
Brent shows his ignorance once again. Power had been cut for weeks. And he's
never lived in a rural area if he thinks electric stoves have favor there.
They stop working when the power fails, and power restoration come MUCH slower
in the country, than the city. LP gas stoves and ovens are very much prefered.
>
> --
> <><><><><><><><><><> Personal opinions? Why, <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
> <> BRENT IRVINE <> yes. What did you think <> irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu <>
> <><><><><><><><><><> they were?....... <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
Jim
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jmd@handheld.com
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"I'm always rethinking that. There's never been a day when I haven't rethought
that. But I can't do that by myself." Bill Clinton 6 April 93
"If I were an American, as I am an Englishman, while a foreign troop was landed
in my country, I never would lay down my arms,-never--never--never!"
WILLIAM PITT, EARL OF CHATHAM 1708-1778 18 Nov. 1777
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6731 | From: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
Subject: Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow]
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation - Herndon, VA USA
Lines: 61
Distribution: world
Reply-To: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: chaos.intercon.com
X-Newsreader: InterCon TCP/Connect II 1.1
pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger) writes:
> I'm a political dissident. I'm scared shitless of the feds listening in
> on my calls. My opinions are the sort that would get me
> "disappeared" in a slightly less free society -- and who knows what
> sort of society we will be in in five or ten years? I have friends who
> have had their phones tapped -- none of this is theoretical to me.
I understand, believe it or not, and there are any number of kinds of
conversation and communication I engage in that I wouldn't even consider
using this scheme for. On the other hand, I don't see "Clipper" as providing
a secure channel--it just prevents casual eavesdropping. This is part of why
I am not worried about it per se. Trying to look at Clipper as a serious
security tool is simply ludicrous. It's a voice scrambler, nothing more.
There is still plenty of market for real crypto.
> As for "its better than the status quo", well, first of all, you can
> get a cryptophone from companies like Cylink today -- and they work
> well.
They cost an arm and a leg, though. "Clipper" is obviously aimed at the mass
market. It certainly won't put Cylink out of business.
> In addition, a number of groups are now working on building
> software to turn any PC into a privacy enhanced phone right now -- and
> they are all working in overdrive mode.
This is old news. I can do this now.
> There ARE no crypto restrictions... yet. You can use anything you want
> RIGHT NOW. The point is to maintain that right.
There ARE restrictions. Example: We're a networking software vendor with a
large overseas share of our market. We cannot currently ship PEM, or even
simple DES, in our products without case-by-case approval from the Department
of State. ITAR presents a material trade barrier to US firms trying to
compete in international information systems markets.
Sure, you can use whatever freebie software you want to talk over BBS's in
the USA. I, on the other hand, want strong crypto (PKCS, for example) to be
the *default* for electronic mail, worldwide. I want priests to be able to
hear confession over email. I want lawyers to be able to talk to clients in
confidence over email, or doctors talk with patients. I want to be able to
order products from my favorite Japanese mail-order catalog over the net. I
want to be able to sign contracts, transact business, and so on
electronically.
This is so far infeasible as a result of the current restrictions on
crytographic systems, especially beyond the borders of the USA.
Clipper is irrelevant, and if it distracts the authorities into feeling safe,
all the better. Its only danger is if it emboldens them into trying to put
more restrictions into place, on the theory that it is "good enough for
anyone who has nothing to hide." That argument is, of course, utter BS, just
as much as "no one needs an assault rifle".
Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation
|
6732 | From: renner@adobe.com (John Renner)
Subject: Re: detecting double points in bezier curves
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Lines: 27
In article <19930420.090030.915@almaden.ibm.com> capelli@vnet.IBM.COM (Ron Capelli) writes:
>In <ia522B1w165w@oeinck.waterland.wlink.nl> Ferdinand Oeinck writes:
>>I'm looking for any information on detecting and/or calculating a double
>>point and/or cusp in a bezier curve.
>
>See:
> Maureen Stone and Tony DeRose,
> "A Geometric Characterization of Parametric Cubic Curves",
> ACM TOG, vol 8, no 3, July 1989, pp. 147-163.
I've used that reference, and found that I needed to go to their
original tech report:
Maureen Stone and Tony DeRose,
"Characterizing Cubic Bezier Curves"
Xerox EDL-88-8, December 1988
This report can be obtained for free from:
Xerox Corporation
Palo Alto Research Center
3333 Coyote Hill Road
Palo Alto, California 94303
+1-415-494-4440
The TOG paper was good, but this tech report had more interesting details ;-)
-john
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6733 | From: tae0460@zeus.tamu.edu (ANDREW)
Subject: COMPLETE 386 SYSTEM FOR SALE
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Lines: 34
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
386DX 25Mhz (DTK motherboard Intel microprocessor)
128k internal cache
4 megs Ram
89 meg Harddrive (IDE controller)
1.2 meg floppy drive
1.44 meg floppy drive
2 serial ports
1 parallel port
Samsung VGA monitor
VGA graphics card
101 key keyboard
2400 baud internal modem
MS-DOS 6.0
Procomm Plus ver. 2.0
Norton Utilities ver. 4.5
other varius utilities
I'm upgrading and need to sell. The system is reliable and ready to go.
I've never had any problems with it.
I'm asking $1050 o.b.o.
If you're interested, please respond by either E-mail or phone.
TAE0460@zeus.tamu.edu
or
409-696-6043
Thanks,
Andrew
|
6734 | From: johnh@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (John Haddy)
Subject: Re: Dmm Advice Needed
Organization: Macquarie University
Lines: 30
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au
|> What the world needs is a meter that won't let you change ranges or
|> turn it on/off with a lead stuck in the amps jack - a little bit of
|> clever plastic detailing would take care of this and make the world
|> safer for electricans, anyway.
|> Not that I've ever put a meter on the wrong range into a live
|> circuit, no, not me...not more than a dozen times, anyway....
|> Bill
|>
|>
|> bills@inqmind.bison.mb.ca
|> The Inquiring Mind BBS, Winnipeg, Manitoba 204 488-1607
The Fluke 87 beeps at you if you try to take it out of a current measuring
range while there is still a lead plugged in to the current sense socket.
... this should solve your problem - unless you are in a noisy environment.
JohnH
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|
6735 | Subject: Re: Yet more Rushdie [Re: ISLAMIC LAW]
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
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In article <1993Apr6.151843.15240@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) writes:
>I should clarify what Muslims usually mean when they say "Muslim". In
>general, anyone who calls themselves a "Muslim" and does not do or
>outwardly profess
>something in clear contradiction with the essential teachings of Islam
>is considered to be a Muslim. Thus, one who might do things contrary to
>Islam (through ignorance, for example) does not suddenly _not_ become a
>Muslim. If one knowingly transgresses Islamic teachings and essential
>principles, though, then one does leave Islam.
You and Mr. bobby really need to sit down and decide what
exactly Islam *is* before posting here.
According to 'Zlumber, one is NOT a muslim when one is doing evil.
[ A muslin can do no evil ] According to him, one who does evil is suffering
from "temporary athiesm."
Now, would the members who claim to be "Muslims" get their stories
straight????
--
"Satan and the Angels do not have freewill.
They do what god tells them to do. "
S.N. Mozumder (snm6394@ultb.isc.rit.edu)
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6736 | From: mgqlu@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Max Lu)
Subject: Re: Auto air conditioning without Freon
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Distribution: usa
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We are working on gas-solid adsorption air-con system for auto applications.
In this kind of system, the energy for regenerating the adsorbent is from
the exhaust gas. Anyone interested in this mail email me or follow up this
thread, we may have a discussion on prospects of this technology.
Max
--
Max G Q Lu, PhD | Internet: mgqlu@ntu.ac.sg
Division of Thermal Enginerring | Bitnet: mgqlu@ntuvax.bitnet
School of MPE, Nanyang Technological University | Phone: (65) 7994818
Nanyang Avenue, Singapore 2263 | Fax: (65) 7911859
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6737 | From: steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson)
Subject: Re: Commercial mining activities on the moon
<1993Apr20.152819.28186@ke4zv.uucp>
<1993Apr20.204838.13217@cs.rochester.edu>
Organization: Lick Observatory/UCO
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In-reply-to: dietz@cs.rochester.edu's message of 20 Apr 93 20:48:38 GMT
In article <1993Apr20.204838.13217@cs.rochester.edu> dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz) writes:
In article <1993Apr20.152819.28186@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
> be the site of major commercial activity. As far as we know it has no
> materials we can't get cheaper right here on Earth or from asteroids
> and comets, aside from the semi-mythic He3 that *might* be useful in low
> grade fusion reactors.
problem with 3He (aside from the difficulty in making any fusion
reactor work) is that its concentration in lunar regolith is just so
small -- on the order of 5 ppb or so, on average (more in some
This thread reminds me of Wingo's claims some time ago about the moon
as a source of titanium for use on earth. As I recall, Wingo wasn't
...
even 1% of the basalts are 5% TiO2, this is trillions of tons of TiO2
at concentrations only a factor of 2-3 less than in lunar high-Ti
basalts. It is difficult to see how the disadvantages of the moon
could be overcome by such a small increase the concentration of the
ore (never mind the richer, but less common, terrestrial ores being
mined today).
Why Paul, it's obvious.
Once chlorine chemistry has been banned on Earth,
as is being advocated by some groups, Ti prices will
sharply increase (we are of course not allowed to
assume any developments in Ti processing).
Lunar Ti will then be eminently competitive for
the trendy jewelry market and certain applications
of National Importance
:-) :-) :-)
(oops, this is sci.space... wrong rules of debate ;-)
Seriously, I'd say there is a flaw in Gary's analysis
in that he assumes an export oriented economy, maybe
the lunatics will just want some native Ti for local
use... as to why Lunar natives are cost effective,
analysis has shown they will be critical in providing
a sheltered manufacturing base, technological innovation,
critical materials and manpower in the war between
the Allies and Central Powers in about two hundred years...
;-)
| Steinn Sigurdsson |I saw two shooting stars last night |
| Lick Observatory |I wished on them but they were only satellites |
| steinly@lick.ucsc.edu |Is it wrong to wish on space hardware? |
| "standard disclaimer" |I wish, I wish, I wish you'd care - B.B. 1983 |
|
6738 | From: woody@cco.caltech.edu (William Edward Woody)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Signs That It's the Age of Aquarius on Pennsylvania Avenue
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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In article <1ql7tuINN8j8@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> chaudhary-amar@yale.edu (Amar Chaudhary) writes:
>
>6. Hey, I think the beaded curtains add a lovely 60's-esque touch!
AAAAAAAAAAAA! RUN! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!
>5. Look, Canada, Europe, and Japan manage to provide health care for their
> citizens (and, yes, basic health IS a human right which people are
> entitled to). If these nations aren't capitalist enough for you, then
> I guess we've found something better than capitalism! There is nothing
> sacred about the capitalist system, and if something, be it socialism
> or anything else, works better, then I say let capitalism die.
Then why are they in the process of systematically dismantling some of
their socialistic health care systems through privitization of key components?
>4. Make love, not War!
If I hold a gun to your wife, would you respond the same way? I don't
think so. While the age of aquarius may have hit the White House, the
age of peace love and harmony hasn't hit in South Central LA nor has it
hit in former Yugoslavia. And as long as there are people in the world
who would rather see me dead than thrive, I want the protection of a
police force who will keep the peace so I *can* make love without being
shot.
>3. Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to be a male and a feminist
> at the same time. To discriminate against or to deny equal opportunity
> to a MAJORITY of the population is just plain wrong, and trying to force
> them into some sort of tradition role is even worse. Women certainly
> have as much to offer this world as men, and the day that gender
> discrimination is finally broken it going to make all the revolutions of
> the past few centuries seem like reform bills. I look forward to it.
The ultimate statement for equal rights (something many of the feminazis
have forgotten) is "I do not care if you are either a man or a woman,
I do not care if you are black or white, I do not care if you are gay
or straight." Once you can honistly say "I do not care about color,
race, or gender or sexual preference", then we will truly be on the
right track.
Keep shoving differences in my face and then expect us all to get along?
Get real! So long as you try to make me care if you are black, female,
or whatever, I am going to continue to balk. It's natural human behaviour.
But the moment employers searching for employees, banks looking to lend
money, and theClinton administration looking for appointees can honistly
say "I do not care about your color, race, gender, or sexual preferences;
I instend instead to treat you as a human being," crap like last year's
riots will continue to happen.
>1. HEY MAN, ACADAMIA RULES!!
Barf.
You mean the same economic theorists who say things like "for the sake
of convenience in mathematical modeling we will first assume there is
no wealth creation" now get a crack at implementing their PhD thesis in
real life?
Go back to your textbooks on macroeconomic theory. Look in the first chapter
of that book, introducing the field of macroeconomic theory. Right there
in chapter 1, section 1, is a statement like the following:
"As it is difficult to predict and model wealth creation,
especially in an economy where wealth creation is inherently
the province of individuals who create new inventions and
discover new ideas, we will assume for the rest of this
book that there is no wealth creation.
"We do not assume the lack of weath creation in the real world,
however the mathematical modeling of such an inherently
unpredictable subject is impossible. Even though we assume
no wealth creation, we do believe that for most mathematical
economic modeling such an assumption is reasonably valid
as it allows us to make predictions which then can be tested."
So the guys who are running the store for Clinton and company are now
assuming that wealth creation does not exists. They are (borrowing an
idea from the Hitchhiker's Guide) too advanced to think of these simple
things.
To be honist, I would rather have an engineer with years of experience
building bridges design the next bridge, rather than a theoretical
physicists with a freshly minted PhD and no experience do the same job.
- Bill Woody
Normally I don't post (or even read most of the postings) in this newsgroup.
If you would like to reply to this message and want me to see the reply,
then I guess you will just have to reply directly to me.
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6739 | From: tedm@tsoft.net (Ted Matsumura)
Subject: Re: Windows gripe...
Organization: TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
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In article <1ppmvf$qnh@bigboote.WPI.EDU> bigal@wpi.WPI.EDU (Nathan Charles Crowell) writes:
>
>Hi there,
>
> There's one thing about Windows that really frosts me.
>I have 20MB of RAM installed in my system. I use a 5MB (2.5MB
>under Windows) disk-cache, and a 4MB permanent swap file.
>
> While I can never fill the memory up, I still have problems
>sometimes because I run out of GDI resources. What gives?
>I think Windows could manage these resources a little better.
>
> Does anyone have any input on how to conserve these resources
>so that I can avoid this problem?
>
>Nate
>--------------------------
>Nathan C. Crowell, Dept. of Mechanical Engineering/ACRL
>
>Worcester Polytechnic Institute E-mail: bigal@wpi.wpi.edu
>
>"Costing the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars"
Nathan,
Win31 has a fixed limit of 64K GDI memory, regardless of physical RAM
installed, this is twice that of Win30, but not nearly robust enough for
many developers and power users.
Using Amish Launch as your shell, you can reduce GDI memory usage by as
much as 15% over Progman, NDW 2, DAshboard, and other graphical type icon
based and other shells. Also, nesting, and full hot-key global support
is offered, something no other shells have at this time.
Ted Matsumura, President
Amish Software, Inc.
:wq
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6740 | From: dfuller@portal.hq.videocart.com (Dave Fuller)
Subject: Re: Death Penalty (was Re: Political Atheists?)
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
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: >> The death penalty was conceived as a deterrent to crime, but the legal
: >> shenanigans that have been added (automatic appeals, lengthy court
: >> battles, etc.) have relegated that purpose to a very small part of what
: >> it should be. Hence the question is, do we instate the death penalty as
: >> it was meant to be, and see if that deters crime, or do we get rid of
: >> it entirely?
I doubt the death penalty was supposed to be a "deterrent" to crime. If so,
why doesn't every crime carry a death penalty ? That would be effictive
wouldn't it ???
The death penalty is a punishment, much like a $50 fine for speeding is
a punishment. Anyway, somebody with murder on the mind doesn't much care
about the consequences. I think another problem is that people dont think
they will get caught. If I wanted to kill another person, I wouldn't
care what the penalty was if I didn't think I would get caught.
If it was to be strictly a deterrent, it should have been more along
the lines of torture.
Dave Fuller
dfuller@portal.hq.videocart.com
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6741 | From: hsteve@carina.unm.edu ()
Subject: Re: Changing dpy->max_request_size ?
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
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In article <C55zLo.7wA@world.std.com> oj@world.std.com (Oliver Jones) writes:
<In article <118590@netnews.upenn.edu> mcclenne@dingdong.cis.upenn.edu (nennelccM nodroG) writes:
<>
<>Does anyone out there know how to change the maximum request size for
<>a server
<
<It is ordinarily set to the highest value the underlying OS can
Yes, and you don't want to change this value if you're running Image type
applications.
--
_---_ Steve
/ o o \ hsteve@hydra.unm.edu, hsteve@carina.unm.edu
| \___/ |
Just say NO to VMS!!
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6742 | From: sents@dixie.com (Jeff Sents)
Subject: Re: Top Ten Signs That It's the Age of Aquarius on Pennsylvania Avenue
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access. The Mouth of the South.
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paolucci@spot.Colorado.EDU (Paolucci Paul) writes:
>In article <C5Gpto.Kq0@newsserver.technet.sg> ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser) writes:
>>Top Ten Signs That It's the Age of Aquarius on Pennsylvania Avenue
>[biased and decidedly not-as-funny-as-dave stuff deleted...]
>I sure hope that SOMEONE SOMEWHERE is enjoying these "lists"...
[stuff deleted]
>I'm no Clinton fan, but I'm no Ipser fan...
Then why not simply stop reading them. This isn't intended as a flame,
but your post reminds me of the old joke:
Patient: "Doctor it hurts when I do this."
Doctor: "Then stop doing that."
Regards,
Jeff
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6743 | Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
From: <BROSE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: Hummel Collectors (1 left)
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"Chimney Sweep" number 12/I (5-1/2 to 6-1/2"), closed edition,
3 or 4 line (Purchased in West Germany in 1970) (Retail $270)
Sell $120 (S&H extra)
I have a picture of it if you want to see first; in excellent
shape, no chips or cracks).
Great idea for Mother's Day. This is a great buy.
Interested? Please E-mail or call (415) 926-2664 wk
or (408) 248-0411 eves.
BRose
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6744 | From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
Subject: Re: Radar detector DETECTORS?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
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nhowland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Neal Patrick Howland) writes:
>
>From what I understand about radar dectectors all they are is a passive
>device much like the radio in your car. They work as an antenna picking
>up that radar signals that the radar gun sends out. Therefore there would
>be no way of detecting a radar detector any more than there would be of
>detecting whether some one had a radio in their car.
>
Unfortunately, you're wrong on both counts. The most common method of
implementing a tunable receiver is to have a local oscillator. The
local oscillator's frequency can be radiated out of the receiver via
the antenna unless the circuit is designed and constructed with great
care.
For a reference on detecting radios, get the paperback book _Spy Catcher_.
The author discovered how to detect radio receivers from their local
oscillator emissions back in the *1950s* while he worked for British
Intelligence.
-Greg
--
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Fortune Cookie: Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives.
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6745 | From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer)
Subject: The state of justice
Organization: ACME Products
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Summary: GM's quest for justice
A judge denied GM's new trial motion, even though GM says it has two
new witnesses that said the occupant of the truck was dead from the impact, not
from the fire.
Thoughts?
It's kind of scary when you realize that judges are going to start
denying new trials even when new evidence that contradicts the facts that led
to the previous ruling appear.
Or has the judge decided that the new witnesses are not to be believed?
Shouldn't that be up to a jury?
And what about members of the previous jury parading through the talk
shows proclaiming their obvious bias against GM? Shouldn't that be enough for
a judge to through out the old verdict and call for a new trial?
Whatever happened to jurors having to be objective?
Brett
________________________________________________________________________________
"There's nothing so passionate as a vested interest disguised as an
intellectual conviction." Sean O'Casey in _The White Plague_ by Frank Herbert.
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6746 | From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
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In article <1993Apr17.162105.3303@scic.intel.com> sbradley@scic.intel.com (Seth J. Bradley) writes:
>Ifone simply says "God did it", then that is not falsifiable.
Unless God admits that he didn't do it....
=)
---
" I'd Cheat on Hillary Too."
John Laws
Local GOP Reprehensitive
Extolling "Traditional Family Values."
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6747 | From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Subject: Re: Any info. on Vasomotor Rhinitis
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
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(Disclaimer: I'm a sufferer, not a doctor.)
I'm not sure there's a really sharp distinction between allergic and
vasomotor rhinitis. Basically, vasomotor rhinitis means your nose is
stuffy when it has no reason to be (not even an identifiable allergy).
Decongestants and steroid sprays work for vasomotor rhinitis. Also,
I can get surprising relief from purely superficial measures such as
saline moisturizing spray and moisturizing gel.
--
:- Michael A. Covington, Associate Research Scientist : *****
:- Artificial Intelligence Programs mcovingt@ai.uga.edu : *********
:- The University of Georgia phone 706 542-0358 : * * *
:- Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A. amateur radio N4TMI : ** *** ** <><
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6748 | From: pjaques@camborne-school-of-mines.ac.UK (Paul Jaques)
Subject: Problem with dni and OW 3.0
Organization: The Internet
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NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
Can anybody help me?
I am having a problem displaying images greater than 32768 bytes on a Sparc
IPC running Openwindows 3.0 and dni. My program runs on a Vax and displays
images on the IPC with no problems if I use Openwindows 2.0. The program uses
the following lines to display the image - it is the XPutImage() routine
that crashes.
XImage *ximage;
ximage = XCreateImage(myDisplay, DefaultVisual(myDisplay, myScreen),
ddepth, ZPixmap, 0, image,
xwid, ywid, 8, 0);
XPutImage(myDisplay, myWindow, myGC, ximage, 0, 0,
xpos, ypos, xwid, ywid);
The error I get is:-
XIO: fatal IO error 65535 on X server "galaxy::0.0"
after 30 requests (18 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
%XLIB-F-IOERROR, xlib io error
-SYSTEM-F-LINKDISCON, network partner disconnected logical link
%TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows
module name routine name line rel PC abs PC
000773B9 000773B9
00077BBE 00077BBE
0007259D 0007259D
00072741 00072741
00072840 00072840
00072A27 00072A27
MYXSUBS my_imtoiks 3184 00000093 000010AF
TEST main 293 000000E5 00000EE5
I have a simple test program if anyone would like to test it !!
Thanks Paul.
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| Paul Jaques |
| Systems Engineer, Camborne School of Mines, |
| Rosemanowes, Herniss, Penryn, Cornwall. |
| E-Mail: pjaques@csm.ac.uk Tel: Stithians (0209) 860141 Fax: (0209) 861013 |
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6749 | From: steve@sep.Stanford.EDU (Steve Cole)
Subject: Re: SHARKS: Kingston Fired!!!
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
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Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: himalaya.stanford.edu
In article <1993Apr20.165132.9777@adobe.com>, snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr20.085337.27224@leland.Stanford.EDU> terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong) writes:
|> >I think that Jack Ferreira's firing eventually led to Kingston's
|> >firing. You mention consistency of vision. I think the
|> >Sharks lost that with the loss of Ferreira. There has never
|> >been a 3 headed G.M. that has ever worked. You need one
|> >person making the personnel decisions at the top, not
|> >management by committee. The conventional wisdom
|> >from around the league is that Ferreira would have
|> >made the moves that would have fielded a better product
|> >on the ice.
|>
|> How exactly would Ferreira accomplished this? The three-headed GM-ship has
|> taken a lot of heat, but nobody's explained how things would have been any
|> different had Ferreira still been there. Would Ferreira have made more
|> trades? Who would have he had traded? Would he have made fewer trades?
|> Who should not have been traded?
I think the three-headed GM's guiding principle was to keep veterans
in favor of youngsters only if they offered a "significant" advantage.
At the end of last season, the contracts of several veterans with somewhat
maginal contributions (Fenton, Bozek, Anderson, and a couple others I
can't remember) were bought out. The idea was that youngsters could
play almost as well, and had the potential to improve where these
older guys did not.
And they traded Mullen, because he wanted to go, not because he
wasn't good enough, but I think they were a bit too optimistic
in thinking they could make up for his contributions.
An example from this season, Skriko was brought in on a trial basis
but not kept, because of his age. I thought he was a decent
contributor worth keeping around.
The youth movement has its advantages; look at Gaudreau who
might still be in KC if more veterans had been kept around. But
you have to find the right balance.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Cole (steve@sep.stanford.edu, apple!sep!steve)
Department of Geophysics, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305
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6750 | From: rcollins@ns.encore.com (Roger Collins)
Subject: Re: Limiting Govt (was Re: Employment (was Re: Why not concentrate...)
Reply-To: rcollins@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Nntp-Posting-Host: sysgem1.encore.com
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steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes:
|> Let me try to drag this discussion back to the original issues. As
|> I've noted before, I'm not necessarily disputing the benefits of
|> eliminating anti-competitive legislation with regard to auto dealers,
|> barbers, etc. One need not, however, swallow the entire libertarian
|> agenda to accomplish this end. Just because one grants the benefits of
|> allowing anyone who wishes to cut hair to sell his/her services without
|> regulation does not mean that the same unregulated barbers should be
|> free to bleed people as a medical service without government intervention.
|> (As some/many libertarians would argue.)
|>
|> On a case by case basis, the cost/benefit ratio of government regulation
|> is obviously worthwhile. The libertarian agenda, however, does not call
|> for this assessment. It assumes that the costs of regulation (of any
|> kind) always outweigh its benefits. This approach avoids all sorts of
|> difficult analysis, but it strikes many of the rest of us as dogmatic,
|> to say the least.
|>
|> I have no objection to an analysis of medical care, education,
|> national defense or local police that suggests a "free market" can provide
|> a more effective, efficient means of accomplishing social objectives
|> than is provided through "statist" approaches. With some notable
|> exceptions, however, I do not see such nitty-gritty, worthwhile
|> analysis being carried out by self-professed libertarians.
Excellently put!
Even as a libertarian, I have to admit government does do some things I
like. There is a beautiful performing arts complex in Ft. Lauderdale
that was partially built with tax dollars (I don't know how much was
private and how much was stolen, I mean public) but it is beautiful and
I enjoy it. (Keep in mind, though, most of the people in the city will
never attend a single performance there, so they might feel differently
about having to help pay for it.)
However, I have to disagree about it being desireable or efficient to
give government intervention-power on a case-by-case basis. In fact,
we have a lot better luck maintaining our freedom of speech precisely
because it is not decided on a case-by-case basis as much as other
issues. Judges decide whether political speech is allowed on the
sidewalk in front of the post office. They do not try to decide just
whether pro-nazi, pro-choice, pro-life, or pro-tax political speech
should be allowed on the sidewalk in front of the post office. You can
imagine the result if right to free speech was decided by the majority
on a case-by-case basis.
Not so with economic issues. Government does tell taxi-drivers exactly
what they can charge, but not the bus lines or the lawyers.
Just as it is not desireable to decide rights of free speech on a
case-by-case basis, we should not decide rights to free enterprise on a
case-by-case basis.
There is hope that a government can be restricted from interferring with
free enterprise. But there is no hope, in my opinion, of having a
government that interferes with free enterprise in an "efficient"
manner; I call it political market failure.
Thus, if you value freedom and the abundance it produces, you have to
swallow the "whole libertarian agenda."
Roger Collins
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6751 | From: drk@melodian.cs.uiuc.edu (Dave Kohr)
Subject: Re: Foreign Media Reaction April 1-12, part 1 of 3
Organization: CS Dept., Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Lines: 19
In article <C5Jv7A.7F7@dscomsa.desy.de> hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
>The USA could go quite far to mend the bridges with Iran. The people
>there are rather pissed off because the USA first supported the Shah who
>they loathed and then supported Saddam when he mounted an unprovoked
>attack. Hardly surprizing after the embassy hostage crisis but Iran is
>meant to be the country run by unreasonable bigots not the USA so if there
>is to be movement it would be easier for the USA to move.
>
>Phill Hallam-Baker
It is also widely stated (in non-mainstream sources) that the CIA had a
large part in the overthrow of the popular (and popularly-elected)
left-leaning Premier Mossadegh in 1953. Is this widely recognized outside
the U.S.? (I have never seen it mentioned at all in mainstream U.S.
media.) How about within Iran?
--
Dave Kohr CS Graduate Student Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Work: 3244 DCL, (217)333-6561 Home: (217)359-9350 E-mail: drk@cs.uiuc.edu
"One either has none or not enough."
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6752 | From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: Riddle me this...
Nntp-Posting-Host: ucsu.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Lines: 16
In article <1r1lp1INN752@mojo.eng.umd.edu> chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV) writes:
>>If so, why was CS often employed against tunnels in Vietnam?
>CS "tear-gas" was used in Vietnam because it makes you wretch so hard that
>your stomach comes out thru your throat. Well, not quite that bad, but
>you can't really do much to defend yourself while you are blowing cookies.
I think the is BZ gas, not CS or CN. BZ gas exposure results in projectile
vomiting, loss of essentially all muscle control, inability to concentrate
or think rationally and fatal reactions in a significant fraction of
the population. For that reason its use is limited to military
applications.
Frank Crary
CU Boulder
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6753 | From: edmoore@vcd.hp.com (Ed Moore)
Subject: Re: Canon BJ200 (BubbleJet) and HP DeskJet 500...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Lines: 9
thomas.d.fellrath.1@nd.edu@nd.edu wrote:
: The key issue that I bought my BJ-200 on was ink drying speed. You really
: have to try awful hard to get the BJ-200 ink to smear. The HP DeskJets need
: 10-15 seconds to completely dry. In both cases, however, do not get your
: pages wet. Unlike laser printers, the material on your pages is INK, not
: toner. But that should go without saying.
I think the ink now used in the DeskJet family is water-fast.
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6754 | From: pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger)
Subject: Re: Screw the people, crypto is for hard-core hackers & spooks only
Organization: Partnership for an America Free Drug
Lines: 32
jfc@athena.mit.edu (John F Carr) writes:
>In article <19930419.155204.305@almaden.ibm.com>
> ameline@vnet.IBM.COM (Ian Ameline) writes:
>
>> I also believe that someone will reverse engineer the clipper chip,
>>and knowlege of the algorithm will likely be fairly widespread.
>
>The chip and algorithm are classified. If you reverse engineer it and
>tell people, you are likely to go to jail.
Well, I'm not a lawyer, but from what I can tell this is completely
and utterly untrue.
You see, this country has this thing called a "constitution".
If you legitimately aquire the device, and you yourself are
not a government employee or otherwise encumbered, I don't think they
can stop you from revealing anything about the device you can
determine. Remember the Pentagon Papers precedent? The First Amendment
applies here.
The U.S. does NOT have an official secrets act. We do have laws that
will punish you for revealing what classified information you learned
in your capacity as a government official, contractor, etc, and we
have laws that prohibit stealing such information. However, if they
sell you the chip, I can't see that they can make reverse engineering
it and revealing the details illegal.
--
Perry Metzger pmetzger@shearson.com
--
Laissez faire, laissez passer. Le monde va de lui meme.
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6755 | From: drw3l@delmarva.evsc.Virginia.EDU (David Robert Walker)
Subject: Re: Young Catchers
Organization: University of Virginia
Lines: 70
Most of this discussion has been between Mark Singer and David Tate,
with Valentine weighing in on the same side as Dave at various times.
My opinion, FWIW, to all:
Mark, age doesn't matter; ability does. I would rather have the untried
rookie with great minor league numbers than the veteran who has proven
himself to be average at best. I don't care if he is 15; if he plays
better than what I have, I want him out there. Sandy Alomar had decent
minor league numbers, grossly inflated by the PCL in general and Las
Vegas in particular; he should have been projected as an average major
league hitter (which is good for a catcher, I'll admit). Santiago's
numbers would probably come out the same as Sandy's, but I don't have
the league data from the mid-80s to check it out.
That being said, I agree with sending Lopez to Richmond, at least to
start the season. As the box below shows, he has *one* minor league
season in which he hit well. He has two in which he hit very, very
poorly. I want to see that the 92 Lopez is real. Olson and Berryhill
are not complete mediocrities; for catchers, especially NL catchers,
they are essentially average hitters, with equivalent averages around
.220. If he had hit well at prior levels, I would say he belongs on
the Braves; but there is a reasonable chance that Lopez last year was
just as much a fluke as Alomar in 90 or Santiago in 87. One year at
any level, at any age, doesn't satisfy MY standards of evidence.
JAVIER LOPEZ 1971
1990 BUR 428 101 10 1 9 5 0 1 .179 33 .236 .245 .327
1991 DUR 389 84 8 1 9 14 7 2 .175 29 .216 .243 .311
1992 GRN 445 135 22 2 14 22 7 2 .271 71 .303 .336 .456
1992 ATL 16 6 2 0 0 0 0 0 .306 3 .375 .375 .500
MAJ 16 6 2 0 0 0 0 0 .306 3 .375 .375 .500
MIN 1262 320 40 4 32 41 14 5 .213 133 .254 .277 .368
TOT 1278 326 42 4 32 41 14 5 .214 136 .255 .278 .369
MAJ 650 244 81 0 0 0 0 0
MIN 630 160 20 2 16 20 7 2
TOT 630 161 21 2 16 20 7 2
On a similar note, I don't understand why more people are not
supportive of Neon Deion. Granted, I thought his behavior with
McCarver last year was completely bush. Last year was the first time
he ever got 300 AB in one place, so his lines are hard to read. But he
has a combined 720 OPS in minor league play; with his speed is more
valuable than the OPS alone indicates; and at a still young age (24),
had a monster year with an 868 OPS. He has a total, major and minor,
EQA of .249; above major league average, and above average for CF
(which was about .240 in the NL last year). He has shown at least the
potential of going into the .290s, which would make him one of the 15
best hitters in the league. He has two full seasons before reaching
his "prime" season of 27. He should be considered as a legitimate
prospect, and not as a simple side-show attraction.
DEION SANDERS 1968
1988 FLA 21 8 2 0 0 1 1 0 .325 4 .381 .409 .476
1988 INT 20 3 1 0 0 1 1 1 .086 0 .150 .190 .200
1989 EAS 123 35 1 2 2 9 15 4 .257 19 .285 .333 .374
1989 NYY 47 11 1 0 2 3 1 0 .222 6 .234 .280 .383
1989 INT 263 70 11 4 6 18 15 6 .246 37 .266 .313 .407
1990 NYY 133 21 2 2 3 13 8 2 .161 9 .158 .233 .271
1990 INT 85 26 7 1 1 14 8 1 .312 18 .306 .404 .447
1991 ATL 110 20 2 1 4 12 10 3 .201 12 .182 .262 .327
1991 RIC 129 30 5 2 4 7 11 3 .230 17 .233 .272 .395
1992 ATL 306 92 10 12 11 22 24 9 .295 60 .301 .348 .520
MAJ 596 144 15 15 20 50 43 14 .245 87 .242 .300 .418
MIN 641 172 27 9 13 50 51 15 .252 96 .268 .321 .399
TOT 1237 316 42 24 33 100 94 29 .249 182 .255 .311 .408
MAJ 600 145 15 15 20 50 43 14
MIN 603 162 25 8 12 47 48 14
TOT 601 154 20 12 16 49 46 14
Clay D.
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6756 | From: sharp@mizar.usc.edu (Malcolm Sharp)
Subject: Re: Trumpet for Windows & other news readers
Article-I.D.: mizar.1r74aa$d7l
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Lines: 5
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu
Where's an ftp site for Trumpet? (other than wuarchive, umich,..
something off the beaten path??)
Thanks.
Malcolm
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6757 | From: crphilli@hound.dazixca.ingr.com (Ron Phillips)
Subject: Re: Armed Citizen - April '93
Nntp-Posting-Host: hound
Reply-To: crphilli@hound.dazixca.ingr.com
Organization: "Intergraph Electronics, Mountain View, CA"
Distribution: usa
Lines: 30
In article <1993Apr13.162304.16721@lds.loral.com>, kendall@lds.loral.com (Colin Kendall 6842) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr5.164728.10847@dazixco.ingr.com> crphilli@hound.dazixca.ingr.com writes:
|> >
|> >THE ARMED CITIZEN
|> >+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
|> >Mere presence of a firearm, without a shot being fired, prevents
|> >crime in many instances, as shown by news reports sent to The
|> >Armed Citizen.
|>
|> Perhaps so, but note that of the accounts cited, there was only
|> one in which no shot was fired. Of the other twelve, five
|> described cases in which the assailant was wounded by a shot,
|> and six described cases in which the assailant was killed by a
|> shot.
And, had not these citizens accepted the moral responsibility to
protect their own lives, there could well have been at least
13 innocent victims lying dead and several criminals still out
walking the streets perpetrating their crimes on others.
--
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* Ron Phillips crphilli@hound.dazixca.ingr.com *
* Senior Customer Engineer *
* Intergraph Electronics *
* 381 East Evelyn Avenue VOICE: (415) 691-6473 *
* Mountain View, CA 94041 FAX: (415) 691-0350 *
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6758 | From: bsmith@access.digex.com (Barry Smith)
Subject: Program Manager kills my Group files!
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Lines: 3
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
Any clue? Some times when I enter Win 3.1 ProgMan says that I need to rebuild
a group! It's quite annoying!
|
6759 | From: mkbaird@david.wheaton.edu (marcus k baird)
Subject: CD-ROMS 4-Sale (NEW)
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Lines: 101
I'm looking to find some people interested in getting some cd-rom's. Below
is a list with their prices. If you are interested in any of these, send me
some mail and I can guarantee this price. If you are not local their will be
a shipping cost, and cod cost if you prefer it to be shipped that way.
Marcus
American Business Phonebook DOS $20.00
Animals DOS $30.00
Animals MPC $30.00
Audoban Birds DOS $20.00
Audoban Mammals DOS $20.00
Barney Bear Goes to School DOS $30.00
Bible Library DOS $45.00
Bibles and Religion DOS $15.00
Book of Lists DOS $30.00
Britannicas Family Choice DOS $23.00
Britamrica Select DOS $24.33
Business & Economics DOS $30.00
Business Backgrounds DOS $20.00
Business Master DOS $20.00
Carmen San Diego lWhere is ...) MPC $30.00
CD PLay/Launch DOS $25.00
CD ROM Software Jukebox DOS $20.00
CIA Vorld Taur DOS $35.00
Chess Master 3000 MPC DOS $35.00
CLassic Col lection DOS $60.00
CLipert Goliath DOS $15.00
Colossal Cookbook DOS $15.00
DeLorme's Atlas USA WIN $25.00
Desert Storm MPC $35.00
Deathstar Arcade Battles DOS $15.00
Dictionaries & Language DOS $15.00
Education Master DOS $20.00
ELectronic Home Library DOS $35.00
Family Doctor DOS $30.00
Family Encyclopedia by Comptons DOS $49.00
Family Encyclopedia by Comptons MPC $49.00
Game Master DOS $20.00
Game Pack II DOS $25.00
Golden Immortal DOS $25.00
Great Cities of the World DOS $25.00
Greet Cities of the World MPC $30.00
Great Cities of the World II DOS $25.00
Great Cities of the World II MPC $30.00
Groliers Encyclopedia DOS $60.00
Groliers Encyclopedia MPC $60.00
Guiness Disc 1992 DOS $15.67
Ham Radio DOS $15.00
Information USA DOS $35.00
Islands Designs DOS $20.00
Jets & Props DOS $25.00
Jones ... Fast Lane DOS/MPS $25.00
KGB/CIA World Fact Book DOS $25.00
Kings Quest 5: DOS/MPC $25.00
Library of the Future DOS $90.00
Loom DOS $35.00
MPC Wizard MPC $15.00
MacMillan Kids Dictionary MPC $55.00
Magazine Rack DOS $25.00
Majestic Places DOS $20.00
Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing MPC $35.00
Mixed Up Mother Goose DOS/MPC $25.00
Money,Money,Money, DOS $20.00
Monkey Island DOS $35.00
Oak CD Stand DOS $15.00
Our Solar System DOS $15.00
Presidents DOS $85.00
Publish It DOS $30.00
Reference Library DOS $35.00
Secret Weapons/Luftwaffe MPC $35.00
Shereware Games DOS $35.00
Shereware Overload DOS $15.00
Sher Holmes/Consul Det MPC $35.00
Sleeping Beauty DOS $20.00
Srd CD Software Bundle - 4 Titles N/A $90.00
Stellar 7 DOS/MPC $25.00
Story Time - Interactive DOS $25.00
The CD ROM Collection DOS $15.00
Time Magazine Almanac Current DOS $35.00
Time Table of Hist/Sci/Innovation DOS $35.00
Tons & Gigs DOS $49.00
Too Many Typefonts DOS $15.00
Total Baseball DOS $30.00
US Atlas/w Automap DOS $35.00
US History DOS $35.00
US/World Atlas DOS/MPC $30.00
US Wars:Civil War DOS $25.00
Wild Places DOS $25.00
Wing Com/Ultima VI DOS/MPC $35.00
World View DOS $25.00
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6760 | Subject: Post Polio Syndrome Information Needed Please !!!
From: keith@actrix.gen.nz (Keith Stewart)
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Lines: 9
My wife has become interested through an acquaintance in Post-Polio Syndrome
This apparently is not recognised in New Zealand and different symptons ( eg
chest complaints) are treated separately. Does anone have any information on
it
Thanks
Keith
|
6761 | From: tomh@metrics.com (Tom Haapanen)
Subject: Re: Hercules Graphite?
Organization: Software Metrics Inc.
Lines: 56
> tomh@metrics.com (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>> Has anyone used a Hercules Graphite adapter? It looks good on paper, and
>> Steve Gibson gave it a very good review in Infoworld. I'd love to get a
>> real-world impression, though -- how is the speed? Drivers? Support?
ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
> The PC World reviewers found out that the Herc people had hard-coded
> Winbench text into the driver. Clever, no? In any case, the Winbench
> results are pretty much inflated.
Two things that annoyed me about the PC Magazine review:
1. Their benchmarking technique is seriously flawed, as was clearly shown
by the Graphite and #9GXE's "cheating". Can't they just admit that
their benchmark is to easy to optimize for and/or cheat on? WinTach
is much harder to beat...
2. The big "cheat" that Hercules/IIT used was overlappipping BitBlit and
PolyLine optimization, and Hercules sent them a new driver which didn't
do this -- but produced almost identical scores. Yet, the only thing
PC Magazine says is that scores are not "legitimate" -- couldn't they
at least make some comment about its real-world performance?
I'm not so much going by WinBench for performance, but, rather, by Steve
Gibson's results, which are more real-world based (like using Micrografx
Draw to benchmark). If you believe Gibson, that is ... :) He writes:
"Despite these documented cheats, I have to say that in real-world
applications the Hercules Graphite adapter actually draws faster than
any other display adapter in the industry. [...] Even though it's
just a modest ISA bus card, it outperformed every local bus adapter I
have, including the Stealth 24 VLB, the Fahrenheit 1280VA/VLB, the
ATI VLB Mach32 and even the Weitek P9000-based Diamond Viper VLB."
This kind of praise is enough for me to be interested in it, bogus WinBench
or not! :)
> When and if you get one send me mail.. I might buy that ATI GU+ off
> you.. 9-)
I already returned the ATI GU+. My dealer had sold eight of them, and
seven were returned to him. I'm now (temporarily) back to running an
original ATI GU, until I get my Graphite. And, yes, the GU is faster in
my 16 MB system than the GU+, especially in bitmap handling (that's where
you use BitBlits).
Hercules has a promotion available for VARs and software developers: you
can buy one Graphite or Graphite VLB for 50% off list to try it out. At
just $199 for Graphite or $249 for the VLB version I decided it was worth
trying (I'm supposed to get the VLB board within two weeks). I'll post
my impressions when I get it...
--
[ /tom haapanen -- tomh@metrics.com -- software metrics inc -- waterloo, ont ]
[ "stick your index fingers into both corners of your mouth. now pull ]
[ up. that's how the corrado makes you feel." -- car, january '93 ]
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6762 | From: mahan@TGV.COM (Patrick L. Mahan)
Subject: RE: Drawing Lines (inverse/xor)
Organization: The Internet
Lines: 51
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu, dyoung@media.mit.edu
#
#I'm trying to write some code that lets me draw lines and do rubber-band
#boxes in Motif/X. I'm running on an 8-bit display for which I've created a
#colormap and am using almost all of the colors. I want to draw the lines
#in a drawing area widget -- a widget in which I'm displaying a bitmap using
#XPutImage(). If doesn't matter if the lines I draw interactively stay
#around when the window is refreshed.
#
#Currently, to draw interactively, I begin with:
#
# /* drawIndex is an colortable index I reserve for the Foreground */
# /* my_default_bg_color is the color index for the background of my image */
# palette_colors[drawIndex].red = palette_colors[my_default_bg_color].red;
# palette_colors[drawIndex].green = palette_colors[my_default_bg_color].green;
# palette_colors[drawIndex].blue = palette_colors[my_default_bg_color].blue;
# XStoreColors( myDisplay, my_cmap, &palette_colors[DrawIndex], 1);
# XFlush( myDisplay);
#
# XSetFunction( myDisplay, gc, GXxor);
# XSetForeground( myDisplay, gc, drawIndex);
#
#Then to draw I do:
#
# XDrawLine( myDisplay, XtWindow( drawingArea1), gc, x1, y1, x2, y2);
# XFlush( myDisplay);
#
#And when I'm all done, to return things to normal I do:
#
# XSetFunction( myDisplay, gc, GXcopy);
#
#
#What I'd like to happen is for the lines I draw to be the inverse of
#whatever I'm drawing over. Instead what happens is I get white lines. If
#the lines are over a white background - nothing shows up. If the lines are
#over a black area - nothing shows up! It's very strange. But the GXxor
#function seems right - since if I do a rubber-banding box, it erases and
#redraws itself correctly (ie. not disturbing the underlying image).
#
#Any suggestions what I'm doing wrong?
#
I believe for this to work on a color display you must set the foreground of
the GC to be (foreground^background).
Patrick L. Mahan
--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------
Waking a person unnecessarily should not be considered - Lazarus Long
a capital crime. For a first offense, that is From the Notebooks of
Lazarus Long
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6763 | From: quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan)
Subject: Re: New Apple Ergo-Mouse
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Lines: 22
In article <C52EqG.6H2@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> hades@Dartmouth.Edu writes:
>nwcs@utkvx.utk.edu (Schizophrenia means never being alone) writes:
>
>>Does anyone know how to open up the Apple Ergo-Mouse (ADB Mouse II)?
>>Mine lives near a cat (true, really...) and picks up her fur. From what
>>I can tell, it looks like Apple welded it shut.
>
> You must not have tried very hard. I just opend mine in about 2
>seconds. Take a look on the bottom, it has a dial that turns to open
>much like the older ADB mouses used to have. It's a bit harder to turn
>at first but it is quite simple to open.
>
Nope. I'm pretty sure that this person knows how to take the ball out.
I think that what they want to do is take the mouse apart. The old mouse
had four screws on the bottom that you could unscrew to do this,
while there's no obvious way to take the new one apart.
--Tony
quan@cs.stanford.edu
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6764 | From: glang@slee01.srl.ford.com (Gordon Lang)
Subject: Re: Booting from B drive
Organization: Ford Motor Company Research Laboratory
Lines: 24
NNTP-Posting-Host: slee01.srl.ford.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
David Weisberger (djweisbe@unix.amherst.edu) wrote:
: I have a 5 1/4" drive as drive A. How can I make the system boot from
: my 3 1/2" B drive? (Optimally, the computer would be able to boot
: from either A or B, checking them in order for a bootable disk. But
: if I have to switch cables around and simply switch the drives so that
: it can't boot 5 1/4" disks, that's OK. Also, boot_b won't do the trick
: for me.)
:
: Thanks,
: Davebo
We had the same issue plague us for months on our Gateway. I finally
got tired of it so I permanently interchanged the drives. The only
reason I didn't do it in the first place was because I had several
bootable 5-1/4's and some 5-1/4 based install disks which expected
the A drive. I order all new software (and upgrades) to be 3-1/2 and
the number of "stupid" install programs that can't handle an alternate
drive are declining with time - the ones I had are now upgraded. And
as for the bootable 5-1/4's I just cut 3-1/2 replacements.
If switching the drives is not an option, you might be able to wire up
a drive switch to your computer chasis. I haven't tried it but I think
it would work as long as it is wired carefully.
Gordon Lang
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6765 | From: pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto)
Subject: Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow]
Keywords: encryption, wiretap, clipper, key-escrow, Mykotronx
Article-I.D.: rwing.2075
Organization: Totally Unorganized
Lines: 66
In article <strnlghtC5puCL.6Kp@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>In article <Apr18.204843.50316@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
>holland@CS.ColoState.EDU (douglas craig holland) writes:
>
>
>> Let me ask you this. Would you trust Richard Nixon with your
>>crypto keys? I wouldn't.
>
>I take it you mean President Nixon, not private citizen Nixon. Sure.
>Nothing I'm doing would be of the slightest interest to President Nixon .
I am sure you didn't miss the implication that we could have another
Richard Nixon type president in the future (perhaps not too distant
future, acutally). With that in mind, then I take it you also would
not object to the Gov coming up with a decision (not proposal - just
like Clinton Cripple is a decision, not a proposal) sprung on us to
start placing video cameras with sound in every room of your house,
which could be activated without your knowlege. They would be well
concealed so you wouldn't know the location, to prevent you from covering
the lens opening. After all, nothing you're doing would be of the
slightest interest to a government official, right? So, you surely
should not object to such a proposal...
Not the best anology, but the principle is pretty close - the ability
to eavesdrop on your activity with little or no effort, without your
knowlege, protected by entirely by "government safeguards". You can
still draw your curtains, so you can still have your privacy from everyone
else (except Big Brother)!! After all we need this for protection from
drug dealers and terrorists and other criminals (like 'enemies of the
STATE')... and you don't really have a right to "unbreakable" privacy
anyway, sort of as the press release of the Clinton Cripple DECISION
puts it...
I find it curious they use the word "unbreakable" when the term really
should be "difficult to break without proper authorization" (which the
Government most certainly has at their disposal, right? They wouldn't
want to be able to break it ILLEGALLY, would they?)... Nawww, not
"for the People" Clinton....
Can you, while my mind is on it, give us one good reason that the
algorithm should be a secret algorithm, unless this encryption scheme
either is a joke, or contains features like a 'master key' or other back
door for UNAUTHORIZED eavesdropping? If it was really even moderately
secure, and the government really meant to require the proper court
order and the keys that are in the Escrow accounts to be able to decipher
the traffic, what is the need to keep the algorithm secret? Seems I
hear rather often that if an encryption scheme requires the algorithm
to remain a secret to be effective, it is not a worthwhile scheme... is
this just idle talk, or is the Administration bullshitting everyone?
With GREAT skepticism, and many doubts on our Administrations intentions...
And WAIT!! We haven't been told the NEXT gem the Administration has in
mind for e-mail and datafile security. The press release does say that
this is part of a comprehensive thing on data security for us unprivileged
citizens. Perhaps 'subjects' would be the better term - 'citizens'
somehow does not seem appropriate... that implies a free people, 'subjects'
better fits a population who serve at the pleasure of their rulers.
One thing for certain: The government no longer regards the citizens
as their bosses anymore, but the other way around...
--
pat@rwing.uucp [Without prejudice UCC 1-207] (Pat Myrto) Seattle, WA
If all else fails, try: ...!uunet!pilchuck!rwing!pat
WISDOM: "Only two things are infinite; the universe and human stupidity,
and I am not sure about the former." - Albert Einstien
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6766 | From: scrowe@hemel.bull.co.uk (Simon Crowe)
Subject: Point within a polygon
Summary: Algorithm to find if a point is bound by a polygon
Keywords: point, polygon
Nntp-Posting-Host: bogart
Organization: Bull HN UK
Lines: 7
I am looking for an algorithm to determine if a given point is bound by a
polygon. Does anyone have any such code or a reference to book containing
information on the subject ?
Regards
Simon
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6767 | From: sponna@eos.ncsu.edu (SRIKANTH PONNAPALLI)
Subject: Super Scope6 for sale (SNES)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Lines: 17
Hello folks, I've a super scope 6 for sale, it comes with a
CRT and all boxes and instructions included $50 shipping included.
I got that only a month back and used only twice.
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6768 | From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Subject: Re: WANTED: Info on Image Databases
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Lines: 14
Padmini Srivathsa in Wisconsin writes:
>I would like references to any introductory material on image
>databases.
I'd be happy to US (international) Snail mail technical information on
imaging databases to anyone who needs it, if you can provide me with your
address for hard copy (not Email). We're focusing mostly on Open PACE,
Oracle, Ingres, Adabas, Sybase, and Gupta, regarding our imaging
databases installed. (We have over 1,000 installed and in production now;
most of the new ones going in are on Novell LANs, the RS/6000, and now HP
Unix workstations.) We work with Visual Basic too.
Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
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6769 | From: jmk13@po.cwru.edu (Joseph M. Kasanic)
Subject: Re: how do you like the Apple Color OneScanner?
Article-I.D.: usenet.1pt46r$li6
Distribution: world
Organization: Case School of Engineering
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In article <1993Apr5.203903.12192@midway.uchicago.edu> JohnC,
jcav@ellis.uchicago.edu writes:
>We're all set to buy one of these for the office, to use for scanning in
>color photographs and for optical character recognition. We've played
with
>the original grayscale OneScanner and were very pleased. Is the color
model
>comparable in quality?
>
>Also, what brand of OCR software would you recommend? We're leaning
toward
>Caere OmniPage. Any better ideas? Thanks.
I work in a campus bookstore and we had the opportunity to demo the Color
One
Scanner. I found it to be very impressive as well as affordable (with the
educational discount of course!). Note also that it comes with Ofoto
software
which is sufficient for our needs.
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6770 | From: johnson@trwacs.fp.trw.com (Steve Johnson)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Organization: TRW Systems Division, Fairfax VA
Distribution: na
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tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) writes:
>Brad Templeton (brad@clarinet.com) wrote:
>: It occurs to me that if they get a wiretap order on you, and the escrow
>: houses release your code to the cops, your code is now no longer secure.
>:
>: It's in the hands of cops, and while I am sure most of the time they are
>: good, their security will not be as good as the escrow houses.
>:
>: What this effectively means is that if they perform a wiretap on you,
>: at the end of the wiretap, they should be obligated to inform you that
>: a tap was performed, and replace (for free) the clipper chip in your
>: cellular phone so that it is once again a code known only to the
>: escrow houses.
>Getting the court order to reveal the key *also* makes decipherable
>all *past* conversations (which may be on tape, or disk, or whatver),
>as I understand the proposal. I could be wrong, but I've seen no
>mention of "session keys" being the escrowed entities.
>As the EFF noted, this raises further issues about the fruits of one
>bust leading to incrimination in other areas.
>But is it any worse than the current unsecure system? It becomes much
>worse, of course, if the government then uses this "Clinton Clipper"
>to argue for restrictions on unapproved encryption. (This is the main
>concern of most of us, I think. The camel's nose in the tent, etc.)
>And it may also become much worse if the ostensible security is
>increased, thus allowing greater access to "central office" records by
>the government (the conversations being encrypted, who will object to
>letting the government have access to them, perhaps even automatically
>archiving large fractions...). This was one of the main objections to
>the S.266 proposal, that it would force telecom suppliers to provide
>easy access for the government.
>One the government has had access to months or years of your encrypted
>conversations, now all it takes is one misstep, one violation that
>gets them the paperwork needed to decrypt *all* of them!
>Do we want anyone to have this kind of power?
>-Tim May, whose sig block may get him busted in the New Regime
A remark I heard the other day is beginning to take on increasingly
frightening significance. The comment was made that "In other parts
of the world the Democrats [note the big "D"] would be known as
Socialists"
A [note the small "d"] democrat who wonders what Thomas Jefferson, on
this the 250th anniversary of his birth, would have thought of the state
of affairs between the government and the governed.
------- Any views expressed are those of myself and not my employer. --------
Steven C. Johnson, WB3IRU / VK2GDS |
TRW | johnson@trwacs.fp.trw.com
FP1 / 3133 | [129.193.172.90]
1 Federal Systems Park Drive | Phone: +1 (703) 968.1000
Fairfax, Virginia 22033-4412 U.S.A. | Fax: +1 (703) 803.5189
--
------- Any views expressed are those of myself and not my employer. --------
Steven C. Johnson, WB3IRU / VK2GDS |
TRW | johnson@trwacs.fp.trw.com
FP1 / 3133 | [129.193.172.90]
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6771 | From: bio1@navi.up.ac.za (Fourie Joubert)
Subject: Image Analysis for PC
Organization: University of Pretoria
Lines: 18
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeno.up.ac.za
Hi
I am looking for Image Analysis software running in DOS or Windows. I'd like
to be able to analyze TIFF or similar files to generate histograms of
patterns, etc.
Any help would be appreciated!
__________________________________________________________________________
_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ Fourie Joubert
_/ _/ Department of Biochemistry
_/ _/ University of Pretoria
_/_/_/_/ _/ bio1@navi.up.ac.za
_/ _/
_/ _/_/_/_/
__________________________________________________________________________
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6772 | From: dhk@ubbpc.uucp (Dave Kitabjian)
Subject: x86 ~= 680x0 ?? (How do they compare?)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Unisys UNIX Portation Center, Blue Bell, PA
Lines: 36
I'm sure Intel and Motorola are competing neck-and-neck for
crunch-power, but for a given clock speed, how do we rank the
following (from 1st to 6th):
486 68040
386 68030
286 68020
While you're at it, where will the following fit into the list:
68060
Pentium
PowerPC
And about clock speed: Does doubling the clock speed double the
overall processor speed? And fill in the __'s below:
68030 @ __ MHz = 68040 @ __ MHz
Thanks very much. I'd appreciate hearing any further explanations
from any experienced folks out there, too!
P.S. Folks have been having trouble replying to me lately with the "reply"
command. Try typing my address by hand and it should work. Thanks!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DAVE KITABJIAN (kit-ahb'-jyin) Vital Statistics:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|||||| K-10 East Garden Way Favorite guitarist : Phil Keaggy
| @ @ | Dayton, NJ 08810 Favorite computer : Macintosh
c < c (908) 274-0892 Spaghetti preference : Semi-broken
\ O / tredysvr!ubbpc!dhk@ TP installation pref. : Over the top
\__/ GVLS1.VFL.paramax.com Favorite book : Bible
Favorite Rush Limbaugh
commercial : Taxula, Part III
Favorite contradiction : "Pro-child --
Pro-choice."
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6773 | From: music@erich.triumf.ca (FRED W. BACH)
Subject: Re: Auto air conditioning without Freon
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
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Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: erich.triumf.ca
Keywords: R12, R-12, freon, CFC, greenhouse
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
In article <1993Apr19.220321.4565@research.nj.nec.com>, behanna@syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes...
#In article <1993Apr16.160825.25622@newsgate.sps.mot.com> rapw20@email.sps.mot.com writes:
#>In article <1993Apr15.222600.11690@research.nj.nec.com>
#>behanna@syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes:
#>> ...
#>> Several chemists already have come up with several substitutes for
#>> R12. You don't hear about them because the Mobile Air Conditioning
#>Society
#>> (MACS), that is, the people who stand to rake in that $300 to $1000 per
#>> retrofit per automobile, have mounted an organized campaign to squash
#>those
#>> R12 substitutes out of existence if not ban them altogether (on very
#>shaky
#>> technical grounds, at best, on outright lies at worst).
#>> ...
#>
#>Now, I'm not saying you're wrong because I know that the R-12 substitutes
#>exist, but this sounds a lot like the 200mpg carbs that the oil companies
#>keep us all from getting.
#
# It sounds crazy, but it's true. One of the best R-12 subsitutes,
#GHG-12, is currently a commercial product. Unfortunately, the SAE committee
#on mobile air conditioning is comprised almost exclusively of MACS members.
#Such being the case, no papers about any alternative refrigerant other than
#R-134a have been accepted for review/publication.
#
# Yo, John? You want to provide some more details? Or should I just
#repost your voluminous repost?
#
#Later,
#--
#Chris BeHanna DoD# 114 1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide - Jubilee's Red Lady
#behanna@syl.nj.nec.com 1975 CB360T - Baby Bike
#Disclaimer: Now why would NEC 1991 ZX-11 - needs a name
#agree with any of this anyway? I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs.
We here are *VERY* interested in info on R12 substitutes (in fact I
think we really need all the info on this we can get).
I would really appreciate technical, supply, and hardware-upgrade
details.
Also, R12 is a useful solvent/reagent in the extraction/production of
certain pharmaceuticals. Any info on the substitutes' corresponding
usefullness?
I am currently working with the local engineers who are making sure
we are compliant with the regulations. The trouble with regulations is
that they only tell you what you are no longer permitted to do, not what
you should do instead.
I think the cause of the new regulations is the Montreal Protocol
which has a definite CFC-phase-out schedule. (Of course the cause of
the Montreal Protocol was all the research done on the causes of the
Ozone Depletion Problem.)
Someone asked earlier about why the governments were working so fast
to ban the ozone-depleting (CFC) chemicals and not gasolines and other
greenhouse-gas-producing compounds. The greenhouse effect (produced by
infrared-trapping gasses like CO2 and methane) and the ozone-hole problem
(produced by long-lived, chlorine-containing molecules) are not the same
thing. It is a lot easier to do something about not using the CFC's
(chloro-fluorocarbons) than it is to stop producing CO2 and methane which
are natural byproducts of combustion and of living (animal) organisms.
Planting more trees and not destroying so many existing trees would help
the greenhouse-gas problem, but would do nothing for the ozone problem.
Fred W. Bach , Operations Group | Internet: music@erich.triumf.ca
TRIUMF (TRI-University Meson Facility) | Voice: 604-222-1047 loc 327/278
4004 WESBROOK MALL, UBC CAMPUS | FAX: 604-222-1074
University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., CANADA V6T 2A3
These are my opinions, which should ONLY make you read, think, and question.
They do NOT necessarily reflect the views of my employer or fellow workers.
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6774 | From: atfurman@cup.portal.com (A T Furman)
Subject: Re: The Cold War: Who REALLY Won?
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
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>If one reasons that the United States of America at one time represented
>and protected freedom << individual liberty and personal responsibility >>
>(and I do, in fact, think that this is true) and that totalitarianism <<
>absolute government control and tyranny >> represents freedom's opposite
>(which it does), did the USA really win the cold war?
>
>Standard disclaimers ALWAYS apply!
>
>----------------
>Graham K. Glover
>----------------
The Cold War has not ended. The only thing that has happened is that
the two sides have exchanged roles.
The USA has a higher imprisonment rate (400 per 100,000 population)
than any country in Europe by a factor of 10 or so. In California,
it is over 600 per 100,000 population. The prison population in
California is now over 100,000, a quadrupling since 1980. Most of
these inmates were convicted under the drug prohibition laws. Police
now confiscate property, without trial, under a "good faith probable
cause" standard, in the name of depriving the horrible ghastly drug
dealers of their ill-gotten gains. Conduct an opinion poll, and a
majority will answer "yes" if you ask them whether civil liberties and
due process should be diluted in order to Send Our Young People The
Message That We Are Serious About Winning The War On Drugs. I don't
know whether anyone has measured such a figure among gun owners, but
I would expect the same result. They certainly seem to vote that way.
According to Jack Herer's book _The Emperor Wears No Clothes_, over
TWELVE MILLION YEARS of prison time have been served under the
marijuana prohibition laws, by people who were minding their own
business and causing no harm to others (and less harm to themselves
than users of tobacco, with 400,000 confirmed kills/year). Under
the "War on Drugs" campaign of "zero tolerance" due process protections
have eroded, and mandatory sentences of ten years without parole have
proliferated. By and large, gun owners have voted for the politicians
who favor such measures. And now, all the precedents--not only
legal, but political: "My fellow Americans, we must send our young
people the message that we are serious about winning the War On
Murder"--are going to be applied to the oncoming wave of gun
prohibition laws. Gun owners are about to get a taste of the medicine
they voted for believing it would be used only on those with different
tastes in recreational drugs.
What goes around comes around.
Alan T. Furman | Don't blame me -- I voted Libertarian
---------------------------+----------------------------------------
atfurman@cup.portal.com | (800)682-1776 for more information
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6775 | From: biernat@rtsg.mot.com (Tim Biernat)
Subject: Re: No 32-bit box on Gateway
Nntp-Posting-Host: tophat1
Organization: Motorola, Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Lines: 29
In article <1993Apr16.153330.12087@hpcvca.cv.hp.com> scott@hpcvccl.cv.hp.com (Scott Linn) writes:
>While playing around with my Gateway 2000 local-bus machine last
>night, it became apparent that Windows 3.1 didn't give the option
>for 32-bit access for virtual memory.
>
>I am using a permanent swap file, and the disk drive is on the local
>bus interface.
>
>Is this expected, or should I be investigating further why no 32-bit
>option appears?
you need to massage few switches in your system.ini.
in the virtual memory section, flip the 32bitaccess switch on and the
associated driver (wdctl or some such) switch on. this will enable
32bit access, but be sure you can use it, as not all hard drives
and controllers support it !
...for seriously fast disk access:
1) throw out WINDOZE
2) install OS/2
i did this weekend - OS/2 is incredible. finally a REAL OS for
the humble PC :)
-- tim
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6776 | From: mussack@austin.ibm.com (Christopher Mussack)
Subject: Re: Sabbath Admissions 5of5
Organization: IBM Austin
Lines: 12
General question: Since the world was discovered to be
round, the definition of Saturday is, if not ambiguous,
at least arbitrary. How would someone answer this?
Also, when the calendar was changed (Gregorian to Julian?)
was the day of the week changed or just the date? Once again
this points to the arbitrariness of the days.
Chris Mussack
[When calendars change, there is no change in the 7-day weekly cycle,
just months and dates. --clh]
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6777 | From: mahan@TGV.COM (Patrick L. Mahan)
Subject: Re: Is it just me, or is this newsgroup dead?
Organization: The Internet
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NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu, rlm@helen.surfcty.com
#
# I've gotten very few posts on this group in the last couple days. (I
# recently added it to my feed list.) Is it just me, or is this group
# near death?
#
Seen from the mailing list side, I'm getting about the right amount of
traffic.
Patrick L. Mahan
--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------
Waking a person unnecessarily should not be considered - Lazarus Long
a capital crime. For a first offense, that is From the Notebooks of
Lazarus Long
Patrick L. Mahan
--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------
Waking a person unnecessarily should not be considered - Lazarus Long
a capital crime. For a first offense, that is From the Notebooks of
Lazarus Long
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6778 | Subject: Re: Why not concentrate on child molesters?
From: quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Distribution: world
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
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cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> You mean, if a large part of the population supports discrimination
> against homosexuals, they will be injured. But if a large part of the
> population supports such discrimination, how did that law get passed?
An addition to anti-discrimination laws which includes homo and bisexuality
? One would assume it would be because politicians were listening to the people
coming up with rational arguments rather than variations on bigotry. Logic
sometimes prevails.
BTW, glad to see that you've admitted sexual attraction to children is a
seperate sexual orientation. Didn't think you had that much honesty.
--
Tony Quirke, Wellington, New Zealand. Quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."--gene spafford,1992
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6779 | From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Countersteering_FAQ please post
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Lines: 12
In article <1993Apr15.200857.10631@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>
>So perhaps it is only *some* waterski bikes on which one countersteers...
A Sea Doo is a boat. It turns by changing the angle of the duct behind the
propeller. A waterski bike looks like a motorcycle but has a ski where each
wheel should be. Its handlebars are connected through a familiar looking
steering head to the front ski. It handles like a motorcycle.
I've bike like | Jody Levine DoD #275 kV
got a you can if you -PF | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
ride it | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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6780 | From: bps@ektools.kodak.com (Bruce P. Sidari)
Subject: Re: A question about 120VAC outlet wiring..
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Lines: 29
In article <1993Apr15.212629.1834@cmkrnl.com> jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
>In article <1993Apr14.172145.27458@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>, crisp@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Russ Crisp) writes:
>> I'm considering modernizing some old wiring in my home, and
>> I need a little advice on outlet wiring. Several outlets
>> are the old 'two prong' type, without the ground. Naturally,
>> the wire feeding these outlets is 12/2, WITHOUT the ground
>> wire. I noticed at the fusebox that some circuits have the
>> 12/2 with ground, and that on these circuits, the ground
>> wire was tied to the same bus as the neutral (white) wire.
>
>They are supposed to be connected together at the breaker panel... but nowhere,
>repeat NOwhere, else. (Well, almost. There are strange exceptions for things
>like sub-panels.)
>
>
> --- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Systems, San Diego CA
>Internet: jeh@cmkrnl.com Uucp: uunet!cmkrnl!jeh CIS: 74140,2055
>
Not even in sub panels! The only place the neutral should be connected to the
ground is in a SERVICE DISCONNECT! In your house the "main" panel serves as
the service disconnect. Sub panles in your garage or workshop for example must
maintain seperate neutral and ground busses because they are not service
disconnect equipment.
Steve Woodard, KD2KQ - not a licensed electrician, but I can read the NEC book.
(my brother is though) :)
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6781 | Nntp-Posting-Host: surt.ifi.uio.no
From: Thomas Parsli <thomasp@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Re: Rewording the Second Amendment (ideas)
In-Reply-To: arc@cco.caltech.edu (Aaron Ray Clements)'s message of 21 Apr
1993 12:34:51 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
<1993Apr20.083057.16899@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
<viking.735378520@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>
<1993Apr21.091130.17788@ousrvr.oulu.fi>
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Originator: thomasp@surt.ifi.uio.no
Chemical weapons are not concidered a *very* effectiv weapon against
millitary forces. On civillians on the other hand....
That's one GOOD reason for banning it.
You need VAST amounts of chemicals to be affective, so the best reason
to have/use it is price. (that's why it's called The Poor Mans A-bomb)
Any thoughts on Bio-weapons ??
If this discusion is about civillians having chem-weapons;
What should they use them on?? Rob a bank ??
This is not a .signature.
It's merely a computergenerated text to waste bandwith
and to bring down the evil Internet.
Thomas Parsli
thomasp@ifi.uio.no
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6782 | From: sepinwal@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Alan Sepinwall)
Subject: Re: Jewish Baseball Players?
Article-I.D.: netnews.120665
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, School of Arts and Sciences
Lines: 18
Nntp-Posting-Host: mail.sas.upenn.edu
In article <15APR93.14691229.0062@lafibm.lafayette.edu> VB30@lafibm.lafayette.edu (VB30) writes:
>Just wondering. A friend and I were talking the other day, and
>we were (for some reason) trying to come up with names of Jewish
>baseball players, past and present. We weren't able to come up
>with much, except for Sandy Koufax, (somebody) Stankowitz, and
It's Stankiewicz, not Stankowitz, and he's not Jewish - he's Polish
(by the way, the correct pronunciation - according to Stanky himself,
is "ston-KEV-itch". all the sportscasters get it wrong)
>maybe John Lowenstein. Can anyone come up with any more. I know
>it sounds pretty lame to be racking our brains over this, but
>humor us. Thanks for your help.
The only other Jewish ballplayer I can think of is Ron Blomberg, who is
best known as being the first DH to appear in a major league ballgame.
-Alan
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6783 | From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: Re: Armenians will not get away with the genocide of Azeri people.
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
Lines: 47
In article <C5yxLE.4ov@cbfsb.cb.att.com> enis@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (enis.surensoy) writes:
>>From article <9304202021@zuma.UUCP>, by sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic):
>>Armenians will not get away with the genocide of 204,000 Azeri people.
> On the contrary, Armenians will get away with the genocide of
> 204,000 Azeri people.
> Armenians already got away with raping, torturing, and massacering
> millions of innocent Moslem peoples of Eastern Anatolia.
Not this time, Enis. Furthermore, a new generation has risen - equipped
with a deep sense of commitment, politically mature and conscious, who
determinedly pursue the Turkish Cause, through all necessary means,
ranging from the political and diplomatic to the armed struggle. In
other words, what we have is a demand from the fascist government of
x-Soviet Armenia to redress the wrongs that were done against our
people.
"The crime of systematic cleansing by mass killing and extermination
of the Muslim population in the Soviet Republic of Armenia, Karabag,
Bosnia and Herzegovina is an 'Islamic Holocaust' comparable to the
extermination of 2.5 million Muslims by the Armenian Government
during the WWI and of over 6 million European Jews during the WWII."
(Tovfik Kasimov - Azeri Leader - September 25, 1992)
"Today's ethnic cleansing policies by the Serbian dictatorship against
Croatians and Muslims of Yugoslavia, as well as the Soviet Republic
of Armenia's against the Muslim population of neighboring Azerbaijan,
are really no different in their aspirations than the genocide
perpetrated by the Armenian Government 78 years ago against the
Turkish and Kurdish Muslims and Sephardic Jews living in these
lands." (Cebbar Leygara - Kurdish Leader - October 13, 1992)
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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6784 | From: cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (gordon hlavenka)
Subject: Re: what to do with old 256k SIMMs?
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Lines: 14
jhaines@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jason Haines) writes:
> I was wondering if people had any good uses for old
>256k SIMMs... So, if you have an inovative use (or want to buy
>some SIMMs 8-) ), I would be very interested in hearing
>about it.
About a month ago there was a photo posted on
alt.binaries.pictures.misc of a 17.5-inch Northern Pike which had been
caught on a lure made of 256K SIMMs.
--
----------------------------------------------------
Gordon S. Hlavenka cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us
Vote straight ticket Procrastination party Dec. 3rd!
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6785 | From: hbrooks@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (Harold_Brooks)
Subject: Re: Spanky Released
Keywords: WHY!?!
Organization: Colorado Needs the Huckabay Kiteball Campaign Committee
Lines: 45
In article <1993Apr12.130652.22090@sei.cmu.edu> wp@sei.cmu.edu (William Pollak) writes:
[Deletions]
>
>Spanky isn't very good defensively anymore, he's an offensive liability, and,
>judging from his outburst this winter after the Bucs failed to sign Drabek,
>he's a jerk with his head in the sand. Tommy Prince, on the other hand, can't
>hit. In the paper, Simmons was citing the case of Tom Pagnozzi, who never hit
>in the minors or majors, but suddenly somehow learned how.
Geez, Dal must have slipped something into Ted's drink sometime. Comparing
Prince to Pagnozzi offensively is laughable. Prince has never hit well in
the minors and he's now 27 years old, I think. Pagnozzi was not a bad hitter
in the minors. (I'll bring in the numbers tomorrow assuming I don't have
another brain cramp and forget.) He had a very good year at Louisville
before coming up to the majors. As I recall, the hype on Pagnozzi coming up
in the organization was good hit, decent fielding. When he got to the
majors and didn't hit as well as expected (not as much playing time?), he
became Exhibit 312 in Nichols' Law of Catcher Defense and got the reputation
as an outstanding defensive catcher. It's not clear he ever learned to
hit. His four years with more than 100 AB--
Born 31 July 1962
Year AB BA SLG OBA
1988 195 .282 .320 .328
1990 220 .277 .373 .321
1991 459 .264 .351 .317
1992 485 .249 .359 .290
No power, less-than-league-average walks, peak year when he turned 28,
now declining. If Ted is going to invoke Pagnozzi as a model for Prince,
given that Prince has underperformed Pagnozzi in the minors, it's not
a rosy picture.
BTW, I'm still unhappy with moving Zeile, who had the same reputation
coming up in the Cardinal organization as Pagnozzi, except that he was
a much, much better hitter, to 3rd where he could be an average hitter
and a below average fielder instead of a well-above average hitter
as an average (or below average) fielding catcher.
Harold
--
Harold Brooks hbrooks@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu
National Severe Storms Laboratory (Norman, OK)
"I used to work for a brewery, too, but I didn't drink on the job."
-P. Bavasi on Dal Maxvill's view that Florida can win the NL East in '93
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6786 | From: sdbsd5@cislabs.pitt.edu (Stephen D Brener)
Subject: Intensive Japanese at Pitt
Keywords: San Francisco
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
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In article <C5KxIx.5Ct@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> rcj2@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (ray.c.jender) writes:
>
> I was kind of half watching Street Stories last night
> and one of the segments was about this doctor in
> S.F. who provides a service of investigating treatment
> for various diseases. I'm pretty sure his name is
> Dr. Mark Renniger (sp?) or close to that.
> Did anyone else watch this? I'd like to get his
> correct name and address/phone number if possible.
> Thanks.
INTENSIVE JAPANESE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF PITTSBURGH THIS SUMMER
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The University of Pittsburgh is offering two intensive Japanese language
courses this summer. Both courses, Intensive Elementary Japanese and
Intensive Intermediate Japanese, are ten week, ten credit courses
each equivalent to one full year of Japanese language study. They begin
June 7 and end August 13. The courses meet five days per week, five hours
per day. There is a flat rate tuition charge of $1600 per course.
Fellowships available for science and engineering students. Contact
Steven Brener, Program Manager of the Japanese Science and Technology
Management Program, at the University of Pittsburgh at the number or
address below.
ALL INTERESTED INDIVIDUALS ARE ENCOURAGED TO APPLY, THIS IS NOT LIMITED TO
UNIVERSITY STUDENTS.
#######################################################################
################# New Program Announcement ########################
#######################################################################
JAPANESE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM
The Japanese Science and Technology Management Program (JSTMP) is a new
program jointly developed by the University of Pittsbugh and Carnegie Mellon
University. Students and professionals in the engineering and scientific
communitites are encouraged to apply for classes commencing in June 1993 and
January 1994.
PROGRAM OBJECTIVES
The program intends to promote technology transfer between Japan and the
United States. It is also designed to let scientists, engineers, and managers
experience how the Japanese proceed with technological development. This is
facilitated by extended internships in Japanese research facilities and
laboratories that provide participants with the opportunity to develop
long-term professional relationships with their Japanese counterparts.
PROGRAM DESIGN
To fulfill the objectives of the program, participants will be required to
develop advanced language capability and a deep understanding of Japan and
its culture. Correspondingly, JSTMP consists of three major components:
1. TRAINING IN THE JAPANESE LANGUAGE
Several Japanese language courses will be offered, including intensive courses
designed to expedite language preparation for scientists and engineers in a
relatively short time.
2. EDUCATION IN JAPANESE BUSINESS AND SOCIAL CULTURE
A particular enphasis is placed on attaining a deep understanding of the
cultural and educational basis of Japanese management approaches in
manufacturing and information technology. Courses will be available in a
variety of departments throughout both universities including Anthropology,
Sociology, History, and Political Science. Moreover, seminars and colloquiums
will be conducted. Further, a field trip to Japanese manufacturing or
research facilities in the United States will be scheduled.
3. AN INTERNSHIP OR A STUDY MISSION IN JAPAN
Upon completion of their language and cultural training at PITT and CMU,
participants will have the opportunity to go to Japan and observe,
and participate in the management of technology. Internships in Japan
will generally run for one year; however, shorter ones are possible.
FELLOWSHIPS COVERING TUITION FOR LANGUAGE AND CULTURE COURSES, AS WELL AS
STIPENDS FOR LIVING EXPENSES ARE AVAILABLE.
FOR MORE INFORMATION AND APPLICATION MATERIALS CONTACT
STEVEN BRENER SUSIE BROWN
JSTMP Carnegie Mellon University, GSIA
University of Pittsburgh Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890
4E25 Forbes Quadrangle Telephone: (412) 268-7806
Pittsburgh, PA 15260 FAX: (412) 268-8163
Telephone: (412) 648-7414
FAX: (412) 648-2199
############################################################################
############################################################################
Interested individuals, companies and institutions should respond by phone or
mail. Please do not inquire via e-mail.
Please note that this is directed at grads and professionals, however, advanced
undergrads will be considered. Further, funding is resticted to US citizens
and permanent residents of the US.
Steve Brener
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6787 | From: uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt)
Subject: Re: What the clipper nay-sayers sound like to me.
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
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In article <1qsvfcINNq9v@dns1.NMSU.Edu> amolitor@moink.nmsu.edu (Andrew Molitor) writes:
>
> The following is available in some FTP archive somewhere, I insert
>my comments liberally throughout this demonic memo of Big Brotherdom:
>
>> White House Announcement on Screw Thread Standards
>> --------------------------------------------------
>>
>> This is to announce that the American National Standards
>>Institute (or whatever it is) has been given the authority to define
>>standard dimensions for screw threads.
>
> Look! This is clearly the first step toward outlawing our
> own screw thread specifications. If this madness isn't fought,
> tooth and nail, every step of the way, it'll be a crime to use
> screw threads other than those our Fearless Leaders so *graciously*
> define for us.
[Sarcastic text deleted, No value judgement implied]
> Screw you, Bill Clinton! You and your totalitarianist thugs!
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>amolitor@nmsu.edu | finger for PGST personal screw thread pitch, or
>Screw Threads | see the screw thread servers.
>must be freed! |
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
At first I was going to complain that your analogy was completely
irrelevant. But then I remembered something.
Remember that move to get the U.S. to the metric system all those
years ago? As far as I know we were supposed to be there by now.
The government sold it as better for the people, easier to be in
tune with the rest of the world. They had decided it was for
our own good.
Then, when the plan was released, it soon became apparant that the
government were a bunch 'o' thickies.
Think about it, change all the railroad track widths, signs,
screws, abolish the old regime.
At the cost of millions of dollars.
Your point is well taken. You think there is nothing to worry
about, you could care less who designs your cryptography, any
more than who designs your screws or the system of measurement
you use.
Sit back, that's right, just relax, we'll take care of all your
needs Mr. Molitor.
--
uni@acs.bu.edu -> Public Keys by finger and/or request
Public Key Archives: <pgp-public-keys@pgp.iastate.edu>
Sovereignty is the sign of a brutal past.<>Fight Clinton's Wiretap Chip!
DF610670F2467B99 97DE2B5C3749148C <> Crypto is not a Crime! Ask me how!
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6788 | From: tomk@skywalker.bocaraton.ibm.com (Thomas Chun-Hong Kok)
Subject: Re: MOOLIT and OLIT
Organization: IBM Austin
Lines: 12
In article <stevedavC5y2Jz.3D7@netcom.com>, stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson) writes:
> Does anyone know the difference between MOOLIT and OLIT? Does Sun
> support MOOLIT? Is MOOLIT available on Sparcstations?
>
--
MoOLIT (Motif/Open Look Intrinsic Toolkit allows developers to build
applications that can switch between Motif and Open Look at run-time,
while OLIT only gives you Open Look.
--
Internet: chunhong@vnet.ibm.com
|
6789 | From: dclaar@cup.hp.com (Doug Claar)
Subject: Los Angeles Freeway traffic reports
Nntp-Posting-Host: hprtnyc.cup.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.9]
Lines: 8
While driving through the middle of nowhere, I picked up KNBR, AM 1070,
a clear-channel station based in Los Angeles. They had an ad
claiming that they were able to get traffic flow information from
all of the thousands of traffic sensors that CalTrans has placed
under the pavement. Does CalTrans sell this info? Does KNBR have
an exclusive? What's the deal?
==Doug "Former L.A. commuter" Claar
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6790 | From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: various migraine therapies
Article-I.D.: pitt.19396
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 21
In article <C4HtMw.H3J@olsen.ch> lindy@olsen.ch (Lindy Foster) writes:
>I've been treated to many therapies for migraine prophylaxis and treatment,
>and it looks like they'll try a few more on me. I have taken propanolol
>(I think it was 10mg 3xdaily) with no relief. I have just been started
30mg per day of propranolol is a homeopathic dose in migraine.
If you got fatigued at that level, it is unlikely that you will
tolerate enough beta blocker to help you.
>
>If we go the antidepressant route, what is it likely to be? How do
>antidepressants work in migraine prophylaxis?
>
Probably a single nightime dose. We don't know how they work in migraine, but
it probably has something to do with seratonin.
--
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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6791 | From: roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby)
Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19
Nntp-Posting-Host: chopin.udel.edu
Organization: University of Delaware
Lines: 90
In article <1r21g2INNeah@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) writes:
>In article <C5sou8.LnB@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby)
>writes:
>> In article <1993Apr20.163730.16128@guinness.idbsu.edu> betz@gozer.idbsu.edu
>(Andrew Betz) writes:
>> >In article <C5rynw.Iz8@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby)
>writes:
>> >>And I suppose the FBI also prevented them from coming out with their
>> >>hands up while national tv cameras watch.
>> >>
>> >Watch from where? Two miles away? Far enough away that whatever
>> >really happenned must be explained through the vengeful filter of
>> >a humiliated agency that said (quote!) "Enough is enough."
>>
>> Please tell me what you think would have happened had the people
>> come out with their hands up several weeks ago.
>>
>It didn't happen.
And who is responsible for it not happening?
Certainly not the children. Koresh was calling the shots. He was
talking with his lawyer and the FBI. Since others were released safely,
there is no sane reason for keeping the children inside the compound.
>> >>scenario that is simplest and most plausible. I do not generally
>> >>believe in conspiracy theories that involve complicated and unlikely
>> >>scenarios.
>> >
>> >The FBI sent letters to Martin Luther King's wife insinuating
>> >that MLK was having an affair! Again, please tell us exactly
>> >how much you trust our supposedly benevolent government.
>>
>> More than someone who would not release children from the compound.
>>
>Obviously. You are an authority worshiper.
Not at all. Are you a Koresh worshiper?
>> I.e., more than David Koresh/Vernon Howell/"Jesus Christ".
>> I saw lengthy excerpts from an Australian documentary made in
>> 1992 that clearly showed that this was a cult.
>
>Give me a camera, and time with you, and I can present excerpts that show you
>to be a cult leader. Guarenteed.
Thanks for my laugh of the day! Definitely a very silly supposition.
>You should at least view the whole
>documentary before you claim it as a source.
I would if I could. The news show that showed the lengthy excerpts also
had interviews with the filmmaker who made the documentary who basically
confirmed what was shown in the excerpts from the time he spent at the
compound in 1992.
>> I am not pleased with the BATF handling of the affair. I think they
>> bungled it badly from the start. But I don't think they are
>> responsible for the fire, which started in two different places.
>
>Two places, eh? You saw this? Or did the wonderful FBI tell you this?
>I saw one place.
I believe that this was reported by local radio reporters on site.
A fire started in a three story tower at the same time as the two
story window shown on the tv coverage.
>> >>The BATF is by no means devoid of fault in the handling of this affair.
>> >>But to suggest that they may have intentionally started the fire is
>> >>ludicrous.
>> >
>> >I suspect that there were plenty of camerapeople willing to
>> >risk small arms fire to get some good footage. These people
>> >were told to get the hell out of camera range. Why?
>
>Couldn't answer this one, eh? This is the most important question of all, it
>is the root cause of all the other suspicion.
I thought about mentioning how Reagan and the military treated the press
in Grenada and how that set the precedent, but decided it wasn't worthy
of discussion. If the news reporter got shot, you can bet his family
would sue the government for letting him into the danger area.
The root cause of suspicion in my mind is why 100 people wouldn't flee
a building that had numerous exits during the 30 minutes time it took
to burn down. Or why didn't they flee hours earlier when the tear gas was
first introduced? I can find no rational explanation for their behavior.
--
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6792 | From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: What to do if you shoot somebody
Nntp-Posting-Host: ucsu.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Lines: 32
In article <93108.025818U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> Jason Kratz <U28037@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Say you're in a situation where you have to pull a gun on somebody. You
>give them a chance to get away but they decided to continue in their
>action anyway and you end up shooting and killing them. My question is
>what do you do? Should you stay and wait for the cops or should you
>collect your brass (if you're using a semi-auto) and get out of there
>(provided of course you don't think that you have been seen)?
For me, it would be an obvious choice: Armed self-defence is clearly
and strongly protected by the Colorado Constitution and the laws
of the state. In the very clear-cut situation of your hypothetical,
I wouldn't have anything to fear from the police (unless I had been
publicly carrying the weapon concealed, something I'm not in
the habit of doing... Even then, the worst I'd have to deal with
was a class 2 misdemeanor.) Even if the situation were not so
clear, and I might have to worry about arrest for manslaughter or
homicide, it would still be safer to wait for the police. If
I were to leave and try to avoid police involvement, I'd be committing
several felonies and ruining my chances of claiming self-defence
in court ("If it really was self-defence," the prosecuter would
ask, "why did you run away and hide from the police?")
In other states, however, this decision might not be so clear-cut:
If someone in, say, Washington D.C. were to use a gun in self-defence
he would _automatically_ be guilty of several felony violations of
that city's gun control laws. Such a person's choices would be
between certain conviction for a couple of felonies versus possible
conviction for half a dozen.
Frank Crary
CU Boulder
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6793 | From: rgasch@nl.oracle.com (Robert Gasch)
Subject: Re: Homeopathy: a respectable medical tradition?
Organization: Oracle Europe
Lines: 47
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Gordon Banks (geb@cs.pitt.edu) wrote:
: In article <3794@nlsun1.oracle.nl> rgasch@nl.oracle.com (Robert Gasch) writes:
: >
: >: From a business point of view, it might make sense. It depends on
: >: the personality of the practitioner. If he can charm the patients
: >: into coming, homeopathy can be very profitable. It won't be covered
: >: by insurance, however. Just keep that in mind. Myself, I'd have
: >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: >
: >In many European countries Homepathy is accepted as a method of curing
: >(or at least alleiating) many conditions to which modern medicine has
: >no answer. In most of these countries insurance pays for the
: >treatments.
: >
: Accepted by whom? Not by scientists. There are people
: in every country who waste time and money on quackery.
: In Britain and Scandanavia, where I have worked, it was not paid for.
: What are "most of these countries?" I don't believe you.
In Holland insurences pay for Homeopathic treatment. In Germany they do
so as well. I Austria they do if you have a condition which can not be
helped by "normal" medicine (happened to me). Switzerland seems to be
the same as Austria (I have direct experience in the Swiss case).
At the Univeristy of Vienna (I believe Innsbruck as well) homeopathy
can be taken in Med. school.
I found that in combination with Acupuncture it changed my life from
living hell to a condition which enables me to lead a relatively
normal life. I found that modern medicine was powerless to cure me
of a *severe* case of Neurodermitis (Note: I mean cure, not
surpress the symptoms, which is what modern medicine attempts to
do in the case of Neurodermitis).
I'm not saying that Homeopathy is scientific, but that it can offer
help in areas in which modern medicine is absolutely helpless.
From reading your aritcle it seems that your have some deeply rooted
beliefs about this issue (this is not intended to be offensive or
sarcastic - it just sounded like that to me) which makes me doubt
if you can read this with an open mind. If you do/can, please excuse
my last comment.
---> Robert
rgasch@nl.oracle.com
|
6794 | From: ron.roth@rose.com (ron roth)
Subject: Selective Placebo
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Lines: 23
L(> levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) writes:
L(> John Badanes wrote:
L(> |JB> 1) Ron...what do YOU consider to be "proper channels"...
L(>
L(> | I'm glad it caught your eye. That's the purpose of this forum to
L(> | educate those, eager to learn, about the facts of life. That phrase
L(> | is used to bridle the frenzy of all the would-be respondents, who
L(> | otherwise would feel being left out as the proper authorities to be
L(> | consulted on that topic. In short, it means absolutely nothing.
L(>
L(> An apt description of the content of just about all Ron Roth's
L(> posts to date. At least there's entertainment value (though it
L(> is diminishing).
Well, that's easy for *YOU* to say. All *YOU* have to do is sit
back, soak it all in, try it out on your patients, and then brag
to all your colleagues about that incredibly success rate you're
having all of a sudden...
--Ron--
---
RoseReader 2.00 P003228: For real sponge cake, borrow all ingredients.
RoseMail 2.10 : Usenet: Rose Media - Hamilton (416) 575-5363
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6795 | From: erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup)
Subject: Re: Long lasting tires for small bike.
Organization: pnet
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Lines: 22
wsh8z@amsun29.apma.Virginia.EDU (Will Heyman) writes:
: no rear tires as small as 110/90. There are some fronts though.
So get a 120/90 instead. Is there anything that size?
: Any other recomendations?
:
Call the tire companies yourself and tell them what you have.
They can make recomendations for you. That's your best bet. Check a biker
magazine (Cycle World etc) for phone numbers.
It's possible there are no other tires available though.
==============================================================================
Erik Astrup AFM #422 DoD #683
1993 CBR 900RR * 1990 CBR 600 * 1990 Concours * 1989 Ninja 250
"This one goes to eleven" - Nigel Tufnel, lead guitar, Spinal Tap
==============================================================================
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6796 | From: Alexander Samuel McDiarmid <am2o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: SE Serial Port Speed????
Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 14
NNTP-Posting-Host: po4.andrew.cmu.edu
In-Reply-To: <QfkD=X200WBK0_Ca0n@andrew.cmu.edu>
Excerpts from cmu.comp.sys.mac: 5-Apr-93 Re: SE Serial Port Speed???? by
Samuel John Kass@andrew.
>
> Sorry, I got a bit technical. To answer your question, your Mac SE will
> have no problem whatsoever communicating with any modem that is 57,600
> bps or less, and since modems THAT fast don't exist yet (in a
> standardized form), there's no need to worry.
>
actually a 14.4 kbps modem using standard compression (v3.2 v4.2.bis?)
cna reach 57,600 bps, however I have not seen any server modems that
have hardware compression. I have been told the annex modems here break
up at ~36k, but I have never seen faster than 14.4kbps.
_A.
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6797 | From: jcj@tellabs.com (jcj)
Subject: Re: proof of resurection
Organization: Huh? Whuzzat?
Lines: 22
In article <Apr.21.03.26.18.1993.1352@geneva.rutgers.edu> reedr@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:
>We also cannot fail to note the intense suffering a devastation which has been
>wrecked on our world because of Christians -- who were certain they were
>following Christ. From Captialist ... in strict obedience to the Gensis
>innocent women who were burned alive in accordance with "you shall not allow a
>witch to live", the Moslems who were killed in the Crusades, the god-fearing
>men destroyed by the inquistion. The religious wars in Spain, France, England,
>etc. Christianity has undoubtedly caused the most suffering and needless loss
>of life by individuals whose certainity that they were following the
>instructions therein, was unquestionable. There is much to grieve.
I agree. Where in the Gospels does Jesus advocate any of the actions
you mention?
I couldn't find "witch" or "sorceress" in my concordance. Is there
something in the Epistles about witches? (I'm still working my way
through the Gospels.)
JJ
[The reference is Ex 22:18. It's witch in KJ, sorceress in RSV. --clh]
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6798 | From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 General Questions
Nntp-Posting-Host: silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Lines: 30
In article <1495@heimdall.sdrc.com> crgruen@sony1.sdrc.com (robert gruen) writes:
>1. I received Amish Utilities for Windows when I purchased Turbo C++ for
> Windows. What is Amish Utilities? What can it do for me? All I
> received was the disk, no docs.
Maybe it milks the dogcow? 9-)
>2. I am running Windows in 1024x768x256 mode using a driver that was supplied
> with my SVGA card. The card is a BOCA SVGA card with 1Meg RAM, and I think
> it has an ET4000 chip in it (at least thats what some program tells me).
> The driver is an old driver that was written for Windows 3.1, it seems to
> work fine, but would I gain any benefits by switching to a newer driver? If
> so which one should I use and where could I find it?
Lots of drivers are available off ftp.cica.indiana.edu in pub/pc/win3/
drivers/video. I've tried two: et4cview.zip and et4turbo.zip. These
give you a choice of turbo and non-turbo drivers. The turbo drivers
were FAST but caused mouse problems with my machine (which has a
Diamond Speedstar card). I finally got turbo drivers (wndSpeed by
Binar) from Diamond. Amazing. Blazingly fast (for a non-accelerated
card) and best of all - no GPF's for a month or so...
--
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Iskandar Taib | The only thing worse than Peach ala
Internet: NTAIB@SILVER.UCS.INDIANA.EDU | Frog is Frog ala Peach
Bitnet: NTAIB@IUBACS !
|
6799 | From: ac940@Freenet.carleton.ca (Lau Hon-Wah)
Subject: Re: Choosing an appropriate Power Supply--PLEASE HELP!
Reply-To: ac940@Freenet.carleton.ca (Lau Hon-Wah)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Lines: 24
In a previous article, lopes@cogsci.ucsd.edu (alann lopes) says:
[...]
>
>The problem is that I recently had an HD go bad and
>someone suggested that it may have been because of
>an inadequate Power Supply -- How does one know
>what kind of wattage is necessary to run two large
>Maxtors (1.2 and 660).
I am not an expert. My understanding is the watts output of the power
supply must exceed the sum of the hard disk watts requirement.
Typically, a 200W power supply is sufficient to power a PC.
Hope this help.
Lau Hon-Wah
--
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