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6500 | From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Subject: Re: The Inimitable Rushdie
Organization: Boston University Physics Department
Lines: 17
In article <16BB112525.I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de> I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) writes:
>I assume that you say here a religious law is for the followers of the
>religion. That begs the question why the religion has the right to define
>who is a follower even when the offenders disagree.
No, I say religious law applies to those who are categorized as
belonging to the religion when event being judged applies. This
prevents situations in which someone is a member of a religion
who, when charged, claims that he/she was _not_ a member of the
religion so they are free to go on as if nothing had happened.
Gregg
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6501 | From: erik@cheshire.oxy.edu (Erik Adams)
Subject: Can I remove the 68000 under my daughterboard upgrade?
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Lines: 26
The subject says what I would like to do, here are the details:
I have a 512ke with the MacRescue upgrade board that makes it the
equivalent of a Plus (System 7 and MacEnvy both identify it as such).
The MacRescue board clips onto the 68000 on the MB. It also has
a 68000 itself. Periodically I have to remove the clip (not an
entirely easy thing to do) and clean the "legs" of the 68000.
Larry Pina's book asserts that this is occasionally a problem with
snap on upgrades: the 68000's "legs" will oxidize, causing
unusual system errors.
Well, that's me.
So, I would like to do something permanent, and I think it would be
fairly easy to put a socket in where the 68000 currently is, and
modify the MacRescue board to plug in. What I'm not 100% sure of
is whether it will work. It seems to me that the two 68000s aren't
acting independently; so removing one shouldn't have any effect on
the performance of my Mac. I'm about 97% sure.
Will someone provide the extra 3%?
Erik
erik@cheshire.oxy.edu
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6502 | From: ricky@watson.ibm.com (Rick Turner)
Subject: Re: images of earth
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM.
Nntp-Posting-Host: danebury.hursley.ibm.com
Organization: IBM UK Labs
Lines: 6
Look in the /pub/SPACE directory on ames.arc.nasa.gov - there are a number
of earth images there. You may have to hunt around the subdirectories as
things tend to be filed under the mission (ie, "APOLLO") rather than under
the image subject.
Rick
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6503 | Subject: Mark Whiten
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Lines: 13
I was on vacation all last week and didn't see any news at all. Could
somebody fill me in on how St. Louis ended up with Mark Whiten in a
trade? Who did we give up Arocha, Allen Watson, Dmitri Young, or did
Dal make a decent deal?
:
Russ Smith
*******************************************************************************
"I don't know anything about X's, but I know about some O."
George Gervin on being an assistant coach
********************************************************************************
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6504 | From: rcrispin@watarts.uwaterloo.ca (Richard Crispin)
Subject: Quantum Q250 hard disk
Organization: University of Waterloo
Lines: 24
I recently aquired a Quantum Q250 harddisk. It is a 50 meg 5.25"
mechanism. It is SCSI. I have a few questions and a few problems. First
there seems to be an extra connector socket on the back that I can't
figure out what it is for. The address is set by some jumpers on the
bottom so I don't think it is for that. Any ideas?
Second, it would be nice to get a hardware manual for the drive. There are
a lot of jumpers on it that we don't know what they are for.
Third, I have got the drive to format. It took a while to get things to
work and most of it is fine for now. The formating initialy was
troublesome but seems to be ok. The main problem is if you do a reset on
the MacPlus the drive disappears. If I shut the mac off and then back on
agian then the drive comes up fine. Any ideas.
Please reply to one of the email addresses below.
Thanks
Richard Crispin
Department of Psychology email:rcrispin@watarts.uwaterloo.ca
University of Waterloo psych@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
Waterloo, Ontario phone:(519)888-4781 or 885-1211 ext. 4781
Canada N2L 3G1 fax:(519)746-8631
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6505 | From: fozzard@fsl.noaa.gov (Richard Fozzard)
Subject: BMW 530i for sale
Organization: NOAA/CIRES (Univ Colo)
Distribution: co
Lines: 33
1976 BMW 530i
The original four door sports sedan
Arctic Blue metallic with gold alloy plus-1 wheels (Rial 15")
Goodyear Eagle GT+4 racing tires (mud/snow-rated)
3.0 liter, 186 HP, fuel injected engine w/Stahl headers
adjustable gas shocks all around (Koni,BYK)
4 speed stick, 4 wheel power disc brakes, sunroof, PS, AC
Listen-Up installed hidden speaker stereo w/subwoofer
208K miles (yet much better condition than most cars w/100K)
Meticulously maintained: all records, 3K mi oil changes
Faded paint on top, otherwise excellent exterior and interior.
The car has required no major repair work in the more than ten years I have
owned it. It has never failed to start or broken down, even in the coldest
weather. This has been an extraordinarily reliable and economical car, and
shows every sign of staying that way. Yet it is an absolute thrill to drive
when you take it to secluded twisty mountain road! I sell it now,
reluctantly, since I just succumbed to the convertible craving and bought a
new Miata.
$2500 obo
Rich Fozzard 497-6011 or 444-3168
========================================================================
Richard Fozzard "Serendipity empowers"
Univ of Colorado/CIRES/NOAA R/E/FS 325 Broadway, Boulder, CO 80303
fozzard@fsl.noaa.gov (303)497-6011 or 444-3168
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6506 | From: christian@geneva.rutgers.edu
Subject: end of discussion: Easter
Lines: 2
I just about closed this once before. I'm now doing so for real, after
tonight's posting.
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6507 | From: rowlands@pocomoco.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Jon Rowlands)
Subject: Re: More gray levels out of the screen
Nntp-Posting-Host: pocomoco.hc.ti.com
Reply-To: rowlands@hc.ti.com (Jon Rowlands)
Organization: Texas Instruments, SPDC, DSP Technology Branch, Dallas
Lines: 51
In article <1pp991$t63@cc.tut.fi>, jk87377@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Kouhia Juhana)
writes:
>In article <1993Apr5.040819.14943@kpc.com> hollasch@kpc.com (Steve
>Hollasch) writes:
>>
>> I think you're proposal would work to get an extra one, maybe two extra
>>bits of color resolution. However, if you had a display that chould do only
>>zero or full intensity for each primary, I don't think you'd get great
>>equivalent 24-bit photographs.
>
>I have not suggested to do so; I wrote about problems, and the problem
>were clearly visible with 7 bit b&w images; not to mention 24 bit images.
[ description of experiment deleted ]
>If the 1 bit images are viewed quickly and in sync with screen,
>then 100 intensities could be better than we have -- I dunno.
[ more deleted ]
>In any case, getting black color with slow machines is problem.
>I could try it on our 8 bit screens but I don't know how to
>render pixels with X in constant time. I recall our double buffer
>has other image color and one b&w -- that doesn't help either.
>Maybe I should dump photos to screen with low level code; how?
A few years ago a friend and I took some 256 grey-level photos from
a 1 bit Mac Plus screen using this method. Displaying all 256 levels
synchronized to the 60Hz display took about 10 seconds. After
experimenting with different aperture settings and screen
brightnesses we found a range that worked well, giving respectable
contrast. The quality of the images was pretty good. There were no
visible contrast bands.
To minimize the exposure time the display program built 255
different 1 bit frames. The first contained a dot only for pixels
that had value 255, the second only for pixels that had value 254,
etc. These frames were stored using a sparse data structure that was
very fast to 'or' onto the screen in sequence. Creating these
frames sometimes took 5-10 minutes on that old Mac, but the camera
shutter was closed during that time anyway. And yes, we wrote
directly to the screen memory. Mea culpa.
Our biggest problem was that small images were displayed in the
top left corner of the screen instead of the center. It took
an extra week to have the film developed and printed, because the
processors took the trouble to manually move the all images into
the center of the print. Who'd have guessed?
regards,
Jon Rowlands
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6508 | From: reedr@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: DID HE REALLY RISE???
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School
Lines: 40
In article <Apr.10.05.31.46.1993.14368@athos.rutgers.edu>, luomat@alleg.edu (Timothy J. Luoma) writes:
> In article <Apr.9.01.11.16.1993.16937@athos.rutgers.edu>
>
> "Suppose you were part of the `Christian consipracy' which was going to
> tell people that Christ had risen. Never mind the stoning, the being
> burned alive, the possible crucifixion ... let's just talk about a
> scourging. The whip that would be used would have broken pottery, metal,
> bone, and anything else that they could find attached to it. You would be
> stood facing a wall, with nothing to protect you. ...
> scream out in agony that your raw back was being torn at again. You would
> say to yourself: `All this for a lie?' And you had 37 more coming.
>
> "At the third hit you would scream out that it was all a lie, beg for them
> to stop, and tell them that you would swear on your life that it had all
> been a lie, if they would only stop...."
No one was ever flogged, beaten, burned, fed to the lions, or killed in any
other way because of a belief in the resurrection - sorry to disappoint you.
The idea of resurrection is one which can be found in a host of different
forms in the religions of antiquity. The problem was not the resurrection
which was a mediorce issue for a tiny fragment of the Jewish population
(the Saducees) but was a non issues for everyone else. The real problem was
that Christians were pacifist and preached there was only one god. When the
state operates by a system of divinitation of the emperor - monotheism
becomes a capital offense. The Jews were able to get exemption from this,
and were also not evangelistic. Christians were far more vocal, and gentile,
and hence dangerous and were therefore targets of persecution. Also since
Christians were a relatively powerless group, they made good scapegoats as is
seen by Nero's blaming them for the burning of Rome. Let's not cloud the
issues with the resurrection.
randy
[I agree with you that Christians were not persecuted specifically
because they believed in resurrection. However the beliefs that did
cause trouble were dependent on belief in the resurrection of Jesus.
Of course the problem with it is that there are alternatives other
than a great conspiracy. The most common theory among non-Christians
scholars seems to be that the resurrection was a subjective event --
in effect, a delusion. --clh]
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6509 | From: steve-b@access.digex.com (Steve Brinich)
Subject: Re: Fighting the Clipper Initiative
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Lines: 24
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
> > >As a flaming libertarian paranoid extremist (:-), I'at a loss for
> > >specific objections that don't sound frighteningly technical.
> >
> > The idea that foisting the Cripple Chip standard on US manufacturers would
> >result in saying "Sayonara" to yet another high-tech market isn't technical,
> >isn't in the least difficult to understand, and plays on a concern lots of
> >people are worried about already....
>
> Could you expand on this...?
Simple -- if you have a choice between:
1. American manufacturers peddling Cripple Chips with a secret untested
algorithm whose keys are held by people with a history of untrustworthy
behavoir, or
2. Japanese (to pick the obvious example) manufacturers peddling encryption
chips with an algorithm that has faced public scrutiny and keys under
the control of the user,
which would you choose? At most, the American government can deny this
choice to American citizens (and probably not that, if the glorious success
of the War on Drugs is any example); it can't do much about the global market.
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6510 | From: jchen@wind.bellcore.com (Jason Chen)
Subject: Re: Ad said Nissan Altima best seller?
Reply-To: jchen@ctt.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Lines: 1
Nntp-Posting-Host: wind.bellcore.com
I guess that makes Altima the most generic car in the US.
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6511 | From: stephen@access.digex.com (stephen balbach)
Subject: SLS Linux for sale disk/tape
Organization: Taylor Balbach Software, Columbia, MD USA
Lines: 41
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
Keywords: linux sls
Since I have some free time while looking for a job I thought
I would offer Linux on disk and tape for those who need it.
NOTE: I am offering this service for EXPERIENCED users who
require no support. Simply put I am just a disk shuffler. If
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Softlanding Linux System (SLS) directly. They provide an
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I am the lazy mans service, for those who don't want to spend
4 hours on the modem and 2 hours shuffling floppies. And
those who don't need SLS support and opt to go it alone.
What you get... each disk is $1.50(5.25)
$1.75(3.5) (14 disk minimum).
A Minimal System : 4 Disks 6.00/7.00
B Base System Extras : 7 Disks 10.50/12.25
C Compilers : 3 Disks 4.50/5.25
D Documentation : 2 Disks 3.00/3.50
S Source, misc. : 1 Disk 1.50/1.75
T TeX : 3 Disks 4.50/5.25
X X-Windows : 8 Disks 12.00/14.00
Entire set %5 discount: 40.00/46.50
or the entire set on QC-40 tape for 40.00
Send check or money order
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5437 Enberend Terrace
Columbia, MD 21045
send e-mail so I can have it ready sooner ->
stephen@access.digex.com
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6512 | From: nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye)
Subject: Re: Migraines and scans
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire
Lines: 16
[reply to geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)]
>>If you can get away without ever ordering imaging for a patient with
>>an obviously benign headache syndrome, I'd like to hear what your magic
>>is.
>I certainly can't always avoid it (unless I want to be rude, I suppose).
I made a decision a while back that I will not be bullied into getting
studies like a CT or MRI when I don't think they are indicated. If the
patient won't accept my explanation of why I think the study would be a
waste of time and money, I suggest a second opinion.
David Nye (nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu). Midelfort Clinic, Eau Claire WI
This is patently absurd; but whoever wishes to become a philosopher
must learn not to be frightened by absurdities. -- Bertrand Russell
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6513 | Organization: University of Notre Dame - Office of Univ. Computing
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Subject: Re: USA McWeekly Stats
Lines: 13
In article <franjion.734996049@spot.Colorado.EDU>, franjion@spot.Colorado.EDU
(John Franjione) says:
>
>Also, I have the impression from reading this group and Bill James
>that Elias is a bunch of money-grubbing jerks whose mission is to
>charge as much as they can for baseball statistical info
>
and bill james is not? yeah. sure. do you own "the bill james players
rating book"?
bob vesterman.
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6514 | From: jmains@engr.latech.edu (John P. Mains)
Subject: Electrical Properties of ELASTOMERS
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Lines: 13
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: jmains@engr.latech.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: altair.engr.latech.edu
Hello,
I am looking for carbon-doped rubber. Or an highly elastic material that changes its resistivity, or some
other electrical property when streched.
If you could email me any info you may have on material names or companies that make the stuff
it would be highly appreaciated.
Thanx
JP
Biomedical Engineering
Louisiana Tech University
|
6515 | From: Jesse
Subject: Is ms-windows a "mature" OS?
Originator: cyen@ponder.csci.unt.edu
Keywords: ms-windows
Organization: Computer Science Dept. of UNT
Distribution: usa
Lines: 39
hi,
Have you used Mac system 6.x or 7.x? If the answer is positive, you would
know if ms-windows is a "mature" OS.
Days ago people doubted that ms-windows is not a real OS. I can see why
they have such question. Ms-windows confuses many people. Microsoft
simulated Mac, but it did a lousy job. For example:
(1) You can not create hierarchy groups. There is no way to create a group
in a group. (If you know how, please tell me.)
(2) Too many system parameters to take care of.
(3) uncomplete documentation. It's not easy to find the reason why causes
an unpredictable error.
(4) Group deleting/file deleting
After deleting a group, users have to use file manager to delete files.
But if users forget to delete some related files, the disk will be full
of nonsense files.
(5) share problem
Once you create two windows doing compilation and editing in some
language (w/o good editor), there will be a sharing problem. You just
can not open or save the program if it is loaded. It makes sense to
prevent from saving, but not opening.
Microsoft try to compromise between DOS and windows, but they just make
ms-windows a graphical DOS with capacity doing mutiple DOS jobs;
the worst thing is they complicate the environment. The orginal purpose
of ms-windows should be to simplify the environment, and make PC easier
to use.
It's by no means easy to satisfy everybody, but if Microsoft want to
keep their reputations, they should evaluate the user interface more
carefully before products distribute.
No flame, please.
Jesse
e-mail:cyen@cs.unt.edu/ic43@sol.acs.unt.edu
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6516 | From: cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 36
In <kmr4.1576.734879396@po.CWRU.edu> kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan) writes:
>In article <1qj9gq$mg7@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank
O'Dwyer) writes:
>>Is good logic *better* than bad? Is good science better than bad?
> By definition.
> great - good - okay - bad - horrible
> << better
> worse >>
> Good is defined as being better than bad.
>---
How do we come up with this setup? Is this subjective, if enough people agreed
we could switch the order? Isn't this defining one unknown thing by another?
That is, good is that which is better than bad, and bad is that which is worse
than good? Circular?
MAC
> Only when the Sun starts to orbit the Earth will I accept the Bible.
>
--
****************************************************************
Michael A. Cobb
"...and I won't raise taxes on the middle University of Illinois
class to pay for my programs." Champaign-Urbana
-Bill Clinton 3rd Debate cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
With new taxes and spending cuts we'll still have 310 billion dollar deficits.
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6517 | From: carlos@math.lsa.umich.edu (Carlos Montenegro)
Subject: Low voltage lighting and X10 questions.
Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor
Lines: 12
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.math.lsa.umich.edu
1. Can low Voltage lights be controlled with an X10 module by putting it
before the transformer? It seems to work, even the dimmer works. Not very
reliable. Will it damage the module? Can it be done reliably?
2. I put a motion switch (Heath) to a low voltage light, it worked but now it is
broken, too much current? How can I get arround that?
3. How can I increase the intensity of a light using the X10 PC computer
interface without having it go 100% on first and then down. I am doing
my own programing, not the X10 program.
Thanks C. Montenegro
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6518 | From: tkelso@afit.af.mil (TS Kelso)
Subject: Two-Line Orbital Element Set: Space Shuttle
Keywords: Space Shuttle, Orbital Elements, Keplerian
Nntp-Posting-Host: scgraph.afit.af.mil
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Lines: 21
The most current orbital elements from the NORAD two-line element sets are
carried on the Celestial BBS, (513) 427-0674, and are updated daily (when
possible). Documentation and tracking software are also available on this
system. As a service to the satellite user community, the most current
elements for the current shuttle mission are provided below. The Celestial
BBS may be accessed 24 hours/day at 300, 1200, 2400, 4800, or 9600 bps using
8 data bits, 1 stop bit, no parity.
Element sets (also updated daily), shuttle elements, and some documentation
and software are also available via anonymous ftp from archive.afit.af.mil
(129.92.1.66) in the directory pub/space.
STS 56
1 22621U 93 23 A 93105.58333333 .00090711 00000-0 25599-3 0 249
2 22621 57.0029 144.8669 0004136 304.2989 134.3206 15.92851555 1179
1993 023B
1 22623U 93 23 B 93103.37312705 .00041032 00000-0 11888-3 0 86
2 22623 57.0000 155.1150 0004422 293.4650 66.5967 15.92653917 803
--
Dr TS Kelso Assistant Professor of Space Operations
tkelso@afit.af.mil Air Force Institute of Technology
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6519 | From: dunguyen@ecs.umass.edu
Subject: Hayes 9600 external AC pins???
Lines: 7
Hello,
I have a Hayes 9600 moden with no cables or manuals. The
modem requires a source of 14V AC, but I do not know how
to connect the power source to the 3 pin connector. I know
that the top pin is the ground, so I would guess that the other
two are the AC pins, right? If you have any hints, please
E-Mail me, I really need help... Thanks!!! Duc N.
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6520 | From: dao4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DONALD A. O'SHALL)
Subject: Re: Original IBM PC specs
Organization: Lehigh University
Lines: 27
In article <C5JD1J.I5s@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl>, winfrvk@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (R.
v.Kampen) writes:
>In article <1993Apr9.101944.3200@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> hoffmamc@ucbeh.san.uc.edu wr
ites:
>>A hard drive with XT-type controller can be added, but I recommend not trying
a
>>full -height 5 1/4" hard drive, as I have run into trouble with the 63.5w
>>supply not having the oomph to spool up those big heavy platters.
>>
>one way to get the system going with one floppy drive and one hard
>disk on a 63 watt power supply is to first disconnect the power from
>the floppy drive than turn on the pc, you will notice the hard drive
>having a real difficult time getting up to speed, but it manages.
>when booting is finished, plug in your floppy drive, now it will work.
>
>(ok I know this is not very user friendly, maybe you are better off
>buying a 486-66 with 300 watt power supply or something like that)
>
>willem
>
The newer the drive, the less problem you will have. The old ten and fifteen
meg full heights were power hogs, but I have over twenty units that I set up
running flawlessly with half height drives and/or hard cards.
--
DAo4@NS1.CC.LEHIGH.EDU (Don)
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6521 | From: cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Mike Cobb)
Subject: Re: After 2000 years, can we say that Christian Morality is
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Lines: 42
In <1qjahh$mrs@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de> frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank O'Dwyer)
writes:
>In article <pww-140493214334@spac-at1-59.rice.edu> pww@spacsun.rice.edu
(Peter Walker) writes:
>#In article <1qie61$fkt@horus.ap.mchp.sni.de>, frank@D012S658.uucp (Frank
>#O'Dwyer) wrote:
>#> Objective morality is morality built from objective values.
>#
>#But where do those objective values come from? How can we measure them?
>#What mediated thair interaction with the real world, a moralon? Or a scalar
>#valuino field?
>Science ("the real world") has its basis in values, not the other way round,
>as you would wish it. If there is no such thing as objective value, then
>science can not objectively be said to be more useful than a kick in the head.
>Simple theories with accurate predictions could not objectively be said
>to be more useful than a set of tarot cards. You like those conclusions?
>I don't.
>#And how do we know they exist in the first place?
>One assumes objective reality, one doesn't know it.
>--
>Frank O'Dwyer 'I'm not hatching That'
>odwyer@sse.ie from "Hens", by Evelyn Conlon
How do we measure truth, beauty, goodness, love, friendship, trust, honesty,
etc.? If things have no basis in objective fact then aren't we limited in what
we know to be true? Can't we say that we can examples or instances of reason,
but cannot measure reason, or is that semantics?
MAC
--
****************************************************************
Michael A. Cobb
"...and I won't raise taxes on the middle University of Illinois
class to pay for my programs." Champaign-Urbana
-Bill Clinton 3rd Debate cobb@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
With new taxes and spending cuts we'll still have 310 billion dollar deficits.
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6522 | From: kde@boi.hp.com (Keith Emmen)
Subject: Re: CNN for sale
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4
Lines: 5
If anyone is keeping a list of the potential contributors,
you can put me down for $1000.00 under the conditions above
Keith Emmen
kde@boi.hp.com
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6523 | From: brentb@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brent)
Subject: Re: Please Recommend 3D Graphics Library For Mac.
Organization: Texas A&M Univ., Inc.
Lines: 44
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu
tsa@cellar.org (The Silent Assassin) writes:
>rgc3679@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert G. Carpenter) writes:
>
>> Can you please offer some recommendations?
>
>It's really not that hard to do. There are books out there which explain
>everything, and the basic 3D functions, translation, rotation, shading, and
>hidden line removal are pretty easy. I wrote a program in a few weeks witht
>he help of a book, and would be happy to give you my source.
I think he wanted to avoid reinventing the wheel.
I would suggest that you take your code, and submit it to
comp.sys.mac.binaries to be distributed (including to the ftp sites).
Many folks, myself included, would enjoy the extra code.
> Also, Quickdraw has a lot of 3D functions built in, and Think pascal
>can access them, and I would expect that THINK C could as well. If you can
>find out how to use the Quickdraw graphics library, it would be an excellent
>choice, since it has a lot of stuff, and is built into the Mac, so should be
>fast.
Just to clarify, the 3D routines that are mentioned in various places
on the mac are in a libray, not the ROM of the mac. A few years ago before
I knew anything about implementing graphics, I came across a demo of the
Apple GrafSys3D library and it actually did a lot. However, it is quite
limited in the sense that it's a low-level 3D library; your code still has
to plot individual points, draw each line, etc ad nauseum. It has nothing
on GL, for example, where you can handle objects.
Other things to consider when talking about Apple's old 3D GrafSys library:
* Unsupported; never was and no plans exist to do so in the future
* Undocumented; unless you call header files documentation...
If one knows something about graphics, you could probably figure it out,
but I'd assume there's better software available that gives better
output and is, at the same time, programmatically nicer (i.e. easier to
program).
Just my 2% tax
-Brent
|
6524 | From: stam@netcom.com (David Stam)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for a Local BUS (Cache
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Lines: 85
Penio Penev (penev@rockefeller.edu) wrote:
>
>I have a Maxtor 212MB on an ISA IDE controller, although my machine is
>DX2/66 VLB. I has the save transfer rate of 0.647 MB/s regardless of
>the variations of the ISA bus speed. I tested it with speed between
>5.5MHz and 8.33MHz. Not _any_ difference. The problem is not the
>interface between the controller and the memory.
>
Chris Brinton (brinton@icd.teradyne.com) wrote:
: I also have a DX2/66 and a Maxtor 212. I have a local bus IDE controller (generic) and I get
: 985 KB/s. I tried swapping my local bus IDE controller for an ISA IDE controller and my
: transfer rate went to 830 KB/s. The specs for this drive show a maximum platter to controller
: transfer rate of 2.83 MB/s. I dont know how to get there from here. The local bus interface
: got me a little, but certainly not as much as I had hoped. I am also looking for a way to
What is the deal with the IDE transfer rates? Is anybody getting throughput
anywhere close to the platter->controller rate? I haven't seen anything
even close to the 5MB/sec limit of the IDE interface. These drives are 1:1
(non-interleaved), aren't they?
Here are the rates I get:
1) sequential read (MSDOS C program that uses bios calls to read 64-sector
blocks sequentially from outside (first) track inward)
8mhz bus 10mhz bus
-------- ---------
MAXTOR LXT340: 860KB/sec 976KB/sec
QUANTUM LPS240: 862KB/sec 887KB/sec
2) disk buffer read (same C program, but re-reads the same block repeatedly
so in effect is reading the RAM buffer on the drive)
8mhz bus 10mhz bus
-------- ---------
MAXTOR LXT340: 1046KB/sec 1212KB/sec
QUANTUM LPS240: 1015KB/sec 1276KB/sec
3) CORETEST V2.7 transfer rate (seems to agree with (2) above)
8mhz bus 10mhz bus
-------- ---------
MAXTOR LXT340: 1051KB/sec 1224KB/sec
QUANTUM LPS240: 1026KB/sec 1298KB/sec
I managed to get hold of the QUANTUM LPS240AT product manual and it goes
into excrutiating detail describing how the bits get from the platter,
through the controller, and out the IDE interface. Nowhere do I see
anything like "after the bits are whipped of the platter at high speed
they sit around in a buffer to thaw before they are sent to the host"
(even though I SWEAR that's whats happening ;->). Here are some relevent
quotes from the manual:
"Data is transferred from the disk to the read buffer at a rate of
3.75 MB/s maximum, 1.87MB/s minimum." (My calculations show 3121KB/sec
maximum and 1578KB/sec minimum... disk spins at 4306 RPM with 87
sectors per track on the outside and 44 on the inside)
"Single burst errors of up to 24 bits within one sector can be corrected
'on-the-fly', in real time as they occur, allowing a high degree of
data integrity with no impact to the drive's performance." (I take
this to mean error correction isn't the bottleneck)
"For page-mode operations, the data-transfer rate to and from the buffer
RAM is up to 10.0 MB/s. This high transfer rate allows the AT Interface
IC to communicate over the AT bus at a data-transfer rate of 5.0 MB/s,
while the DCS simultaneously controls disk-to-RAM transfers"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
So the thing can even do it's cache pre-fetch WHILE it's sending the
requested sector (it has 3 64KB read buffers for pre-fetching, I guess
you could call that a cache :-|).
So when I do a sequential read on the outer tracks, WHY am I getting a
measly 862KB/sec when I should be getting around 3MB/sec???
Any of you hard-disk engineers out there know?
Wondering why my disks are so slow,
David
o o
--------------------oOO-(_)-OOo--------------------------------------------
David Stam Linux: The choice of a GNU generation
stam@netcom.com 386-un*x-X11R5-Openlook-gcc-TeX-FREE!
|
6525 | From: egg@dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Subject: Chosing optimal colors for colormap ?
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation
Lines: 12
NNTP-Posting-Host: dstos3.dsto.gov.au
Hi,
I'm looking for an algorithm that would generate a good cross-section of
RGB colours given a limited colour map size.
The problem: I'm writing an application for the PC that may have at most 256
colors. I want to use one colormap (palette) for the application but I'd like
it to contain an even spread of colours of the visible spectrum. I could use
a 6x6x6 RGB cube but the problem is that a lot of those colours are almost
identical to the human eye.
Does anyone know how I can optimize my choice of colors ?
|
6526 | From: mt90dac@brunel.ac.uk (Del Cotter)
Subject: Re: Crazy? or just Imaginitive?
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK
Lines: 26
<1993Apr21.205403.1@aurora.alaska.edu> nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu writes:
>So some of my ideas are a bit odd, off the wall and such, but so was Wilbur and
>Orville Wright, and quite a few others.. Sorry if I do not have the big degrees
>and such, but I think (I might be wrong, to error is human) I have something
>that is in many ways just as important, I have imagination, dreams. And without
>dreams all the knowledge is worthless..
Oh, and us with the big degrees don't got imagination, huh?
The alleged dichotomy between imagination and knowledge is one of the most
pernicious fallacys of the New Age. Michael, thanks for the generous
offer, but we have quite enough dreams of our own, thank you.
You, on the other hand, are letting your own dreams go to waste by
failing to get the maths/thermodynamics/chemistry/(your choices here)
which would give your imagination wings.
Just to show this isn't a flame, I leave you with a quote from _Invasion of
the Body Snatchers_:
"Become one of us; it's not so bad, you know"
--
',' ' ',',' | | ',' ' ',','
', ,',' | Del Cotter mt90dac@brunel.ac.uk | ', ,','
',' | | ','
|
6527 | From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Subject: Re: xSoviet Armenia denies the historical fact of the Turkish Genocide.
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world
Lines: 52
In article <1993Apr17.172014.663@hellgate.utah.edu> tolman%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kenneth Tolman) writes:
>>I sure hope so. Because, the unspeakable crimes of the Armenians must
>>be righted. Armenian invaders burned and sacked the fatherland of
>No! NO! no no no no no. It is not justifiable to right wrongs of
>previous years. My ancestors tortured, enslaved, and killed blacks. I
>do not want to take responsibility for them. I may not have any direct
>relatives who did such things, but how am I to know?
>There is enough CURRENT torture, enslavement and genocide to go around.
>Lets correct that. Lets forget and forgive, each and every one of us has
>a historical reason to kill, torture or take back things from those around
>us. Pray let us not be infantile arbiters for past injustice.
Are you suggesting that we should forget the cold-blooded genocide of
2.5 million Muslim people by the Armenians between 1914 and 1920? But
most people aren't aware that in 1939 Hitler said that he would pattern
his elimination of the Jews based upon what the Armenians did to Turkish
people in 1914.
'After all, who remembers today the extermination of the Tartars?'
(Adolf Hitler, August 22, 1939: Ruth W. Rosenbaum (Durusoy),
"The Turkish Holocaust - Turk Soykirimi", p. 213.)
I refer to the Turks and Kurds as history's forgotten people. It does
not serve our society well when most people are totally unaware of
what happened in 1914 where a vicious society, run by fascist Armenians,
decided to simply use the phoniest of pretexts as an excuse, for wiping
out a peace-loving, industrious, and very intelligent and productive
ethnic group. What we have is a demand from the fascist government of
x-Soviet Armenia to redress the wrongs that were done against our
people. And the only way we can do that is if we can catch hold of and
not lose sight of the historical precedence in this very century. We
cannot reverse the events of the past, but we can and we must strive to
keep the memory of this tragedy alive on this side of the Atlantic, so as
to help prevent a recurrence of the extermination of a people because
of their religion or their race. Which means that I support the claims
of the Turks and Kurds to return to their lands in x-Soviet Armenia,
to determine their own future as a nation in their own homeland.
Serdar Argic
'We closed the roads and mountain passes that
might serve as ways of escape for the Turks
and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
(Ohanus Appressian - 1919)
'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists
a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
|
6528 | From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Subject: Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Lines: 45
In article dpc47852@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel Paul Checkman) writes:
>bruce@Data-IO.COM (Bruce Reynolds) writes:
>
>>Anecedotal evidence is worthless. Even doctors who have been using a drug
>>or treatment for years, and who swear it is effective, are often suprised
>>at the results of clinical trials. Whether or not MSG causes describable,
>>reportable, documentable symptoms should be pretty simple to discover.
But it is quite a leap in logic to observe one situation where anecdotal
evidence led nowhere and therefore conclude that anecdotal evidence will
NEVER lead anywhere. I'm sure somebody here can provide an example where
anecdotal evidence (and the interpretation of it) was upheld/verified by
follow-on rigorous clinical trials.
>I tend to disagree- I think anecdotal evidence, provided there is a lot of it,
>and it is fairly consistent, will is very important. First, it points to the
>necessity of doing a study, and second, it at least says that the effects are
>all psychological (or possibly allergy in this case). As I've pointed out
>person's "make-believe" can easily be another person's reality...
Good point. There has been a tendency by some on this newsgroup to "circle
the wagons" to the viewpoint that anecdotal medical evidence is worthless
(maybe to counter the claims of those who are presenting anecdotal evidence
to support controversial subjects, such as the "yeast hypothesis"). But
evidence is evidence - it requires a "jury" or a process to sort it out and
determine the truth from the junk. Medicine must continue to strive to better
understand the workings of the body/mind for the purpose of alleviating
illness - anecdotal evidence is just one piece of the puzzle; it is not
worthless. Rather, it can help focus limited resources in the right direction.
Jon Noring
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|
6529 | From: ds@aris.nswc.navy.mil (Demetrios Sapounas)
Subject: 3D display software
Organization: NSWC
Lines: 19
I have the need for displaying 2 1/2 D surfaces under X, using only
Xlib, Xt and Xm. Does anyone know of a package, available on internet,
which will be able to do the work?
I am looking for a STAND-ALONE package providing similar functions
to "xprism3" available with Khoros, but without the numerous libraries
required for it. I want to be able to recompile it and run it on
various platforms, from SGIs to i486s (UNIX).
Any help will be appreciated.
=======================================================================
Demetrios Sapounas Tel +1 (703) 663.8332
L 115, NSWC Fax +1 (703) 663.1939
Dahlgren, VA 22448-5000, USA email ds@aris.nswc.navy.mil
=======================================================================
|
6530 | Subject: NCAA finals...Winner????
From: ktgeiss@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"
Lines: 1
Lake State/Maine in finals...WHO WON? Please post.
|
6531 | From: chorley@vms.ocom.okstate.edu
Subject: Re: Homeopathy: a respectable medical tradition?
Lines: 43
Nntp-Posting-Host: vms.ocom.okstate.edu
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
In article <C5y5zr.B11@toads.pgh.pa.us>, geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
> In article <C5qMJJ.yB@ampex.com> jag@ampex.com (Rayaz Jagani) writes:
>
>>
>>From Miranda Castro, _The Complete Homeopathy Handbook_,
>>ISBN 0-312-06320-2, oringinally published in Britain in 1990.
>>
>>From Page 10,
>>.. and in 1946, when the National Health Service was established,
>>homeopathy was included as an officially approved method
>>of treatment.
>
> I was there in 1976. I suppose it must have died out since 1946,
> then. Certainly I never heard of any homeopaths or herbalists in
> the employ of the NHS. Perhaps the law codified it but the authorities
> refused to hire any homeopaths. A similar law in the US allows
> chiropractors to practice in VA hospitals but I've never seen one
> there and I don't know of a single VA that has hired a chiropractor.
> There are a lot of Britons on the net, so someone should be able to
> tell us if the NHS provides homeopaths for you.
>
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
I don't think they provide homeopaths, heck the heir apparent was trying to
promote Osteopaths to the ranks of eligibility a couple of years back... It
pleased my family no end, since I'm at an Osteopathic school, sort of
validated it for them...then I told them that the name was the same but the
practice was different....oh.
If you're seeking validation for your philosophy on the strength of
the national health service adopting it, I suggest that you are not very
sure of the validity of your philosophy. I believe in 1946, the NHS was
still having its nurses taught the fine art of "cupping", which is the
vacuum extraction of intradermal fluids by means of heating a cup, placing
it on the afflicted site and allowing it to cool.
I wouldn't take my sick daughter to a homeopath.
David N. Chorley
***************************************************************************
Yikes, I'm agreeing with Gordon Banks
**************************************************************************
|
6532 | From: pwhite@empros.com (Peter White)
Subject: Some questions from a new Christian
Lines: 50
Reply-To: pwhite@empros.com
In article <Apr.15.00.58.29.1993.28900@athos.rutgers.edu>, 18669@bach.udel.edu (Steven R Hoskins) writes:
|> I have another question I would like to ask. I am not yet affiliated
|> with any one congregation. Aside from matters of taste, what criteria
|> should one use in choosing a church? I don't really know the difference
|> between the various Protestant denominations.
Here in America people tend to think of choosing a church much like they
think of choosing a car or a country club. What I mean is that our
culture is such that we tend towards satisfying our own wants rather
than considering things with others in mind and not making prayer
an initial and primary part of the decision process. People tend to
treat church as they would a club and when something is less than to
their liking, off they go to another one.
I think that scripture presents the idea that God takes a different
perspective on the "church choosing process". It seems to me from 1Cor 12
that God doesn't subscribe to the idea of us choosing a church at all
but that he places us in the body as he wants us. So, I think a better
question is not how do I choose a church but how do I figure out where
God is trying to place me.
If a person was instrumental in leading you to Christ, the church they
go to is a logical first choice. You have been born into the family of
God. People should hop around from church to church as often as they
hop from natural family to family.
If you met the Lord on your own (so to speak) there may not be an
easily identifiable church to try for starters. Here you are more
like an orphan. Prayerfully go and "leave yourself on a few doorsteps"
and see if anyplace feels like home.
I wouldn't expect that God want to place you in a church where you
have difficulty fitting in with the people, but on the other hand
there are no perfect churches. If you have an attitude of looking
for problems you will both find them and make them. On the other hand
if you have an attitude of love and committment, you will spread that
wherever you go.
In general, I think that God will try to place you in a church that
talks about the Lord in the way that you have come to know him and is
expanding on that base.
--
Peter White
disclaimer: None of what is written necessarily reflects
a view of my company.
Phil I want to know Christ and the power of his
3:10 resurrection and the fellowship of sharing in
NIV his sufferings, becoming like him in his death
|
6533 | From: xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters)
Subject: Re: PC/Geos, Windows, OS/2, and Unix/X11
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Lines: 58
In <sehari.734022369@vincent2.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>---
>With my limited knowladge about the PC Geos, I came out with following
>comparison:
> PC Geos Windows OS/2 Unix/X11
> ________ _______ ____ _______
>2. can run win
> programs nop yap yap nop
^
Novell is at least
demoing windows apps
running under UNIXWare.
>5. can run unix nop I have not nop yap
> heard of it
^ ^
Try MKS. MKS &
others, esp.
EMX
Note here: the MKS toolkit (for DOS/Windows & OS/2) gives you a good
suite of standard UNIX utilities. There are other similar systems from
other vendors as well. The EMX system for OS/2 gives you most of the
standard UNIX system calls for recompiling your UNIX programs under
OS/2. Not quite the same thing as actually running UNIX programs
directly in either case, but EMX makes OS/2 almost as compatible with
UNIX systems as many UNIX systems are with each other. And, best of
all, EMX is free. :-)
There is a similar system (GO32) for DOS, but it doesn't work with
Windows, as far as I know.
>7. price $120 $70 $120 free-$1000s
> A good one
> costs $400-$700
> avaliable on Ext.
> card too.
Should add in the cost for DOS with both Geos and Windows, neither of
which is a standalone OS at this point. Neither OS/2 nor UNIX requires
DOS.
BTW, two of the best unices I've seen for the pee cee are UNIXWare ($300
for the personal edition) and LINUX (free). So I don't agree that "a
good one costs $400-$700." :-)
And, if you really want to check out the various options available to
you, you should also look into DESQview and DESQview/X.
cheers
--
Chris Waters | the insane don't |"Judy's in the bedroom,
xtifr@netcom.COM| need disclaimers | Inventing situations." -D. Byrne
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6534 | From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: If You Were Pat Burns ...
Keywords: Leaf Wings
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Lines: 20
In article <1r1chb$5l2@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> jake@rambler.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>
>
>What are the Leafs to do? I am a Leaf supporter and
>I say the Leafs are going down in four unless there
>is nothing short of a miracle or a stroke of genenius hits
>Pat Burns.
>
>If you were Pat Burns what would you do?
>
Pray for the Wings to become lazy and overconfident...the Wings
can only lose the series...Toronto cannot win it. Take away
Doug Gilmour and the Leafs are an old Tampa Bay.
The Leafs deserve a lot of credit for their diligent effort
during the regular season...but if Detroit puts in a reasonable
effort, this is not a contest.
Gerald
|
6535 | Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
From: steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Jason 'Think!' Steiner)
Distribution: na
Nntp-Posting-Host: jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Lines: 23
douglas craig holland (holland@CS.ColoState.EDU) writes:
>
> With E-Mail, if they can't break your PGP encryption, they'll just
> call up one of their TEMPEST trucks and read the electromagnetic
> emmisions from your computer or terminal. Note that measures to
> protect yourself from TEMPEST surveillance are still classified, as
> far as I know.
are LCD displays vulnerable to tempest?
> If the new regime comes to fruition, make sure you protect your First
> Amendment rights by asserting your Second Amendment Rights.
i'll second that.
jason
--
"I stood up on my van. I yelled, `Excuse me, sir. Ain't nothing wrong
with this country that a few plastic explosives won't cure!'"
- Steve Taylor, I Blew Up the Clinic Real Good
`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,` steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu `,`,`,`
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6536 | From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: plus minus stat
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Lines: 8
It is meaningless to compare one player's plus/minus statistic with
another players' out of the context of the role and the playing time
of the players involved.
To compare Jagr's and Francis's plus/minus is ridiculous and absurd...
Gerald
|
6537 | From: holland@CS.ColoState.EDU (douglas craig holland)
Subject: Re: Non-lethal alternatives to handguns?
Nntp-Posting-Host: beethoven.cs.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department
Keywords: handgun mace pepper-spray taser tasp phaser
Lines: 102
In article <1993Apr13.221936.28301@watson.ibm.com> mjp@vnet.ibm.com (Michael J. Phelps) writes:
>
>In article <shepardC5FtLs.681@netcom.com>, shepard@netcom.com (Mark Shepard)
>writes:
>|> How effective are personal defense products like mace, pepper-spray,
>|> tasers and other non-lethal "stun" devices compared to handguns?
>|> Any statistics on #'s and types in use?
>|>
>|> These products seem very attractive compared to handguns
>|> because, being non-lethal, they are more "forgiving" of accident or
>|> mistakes/wrongful shooting (such as the Yoshi Hattori case), and
>|> allow the justice system to deal with the criminal (rather than
>|> criminals simply being _dead_, which has a certain "vigilante feel"
>|> which seems to bother anti-gun people).
>
>The "more forgiving" nature also has its down side; it allows a criminal
>to use them w/o the ADW [assault with a deadly weapon] charge. They also
>can have lethal or dangerous side effects -
> - some people have violent reactions to mace/pepper sprays
> - stun guns can harm people with weak hearts
> - people have suffered eye damage from mace; the stuff that is available
> now is less concentrated than it used to be.
> - some of the spray propellents are flammable
>
>|>
>|> The arguments I see _against_ these non-lethal weapons compared to
>|> handguns are lack of range, lack of "stopping power" or effectiveness,
>|> and limited "ammo". True? How about cost?
>
>Sprays
>
>- using any of the spray based [eg mace, pepper] indoors is bound to
> affect anyone else in the room (like the victim) due to the nature
> of the stuff.
>
>- using the sprays outdoors in any sort of breeze mitigates its
> effectiveness.
>
>- from reading various articles, it appears that mace, especially the
> mace available to citizens, is pretty ineffective on people under
> the influence of drugs or alcohol.
>
>- pepper spray appears to be more effective, but has the inherent spray
> delivery problem. It still does not appear to be anything better than
> a distraction that might buy you time to run like hell [if you can].
>
>Consider that running like hell isn't always a viable solution. For
>example, if you are dressed in boots and the assailent is dressed in
>sneakers .. you might have a tough time outrunning them!
>
>Tasars and Stun Guns
>
>- require contact with skin for max effectiveness; a jacket [like a
> leather one] will mitigate its effectiveness
>
>- the user must be extremely close to the assailent; that puts them
> at a considerable risk of injury.
>
>- the user must keep the stun gun in contact with the assailent for some
> non negligible period of time.
>
>- tasar darts can be pulled out.
>
>Consider the problem a small women would have keeping a stun gun in
>contact with a average size man for any length of time w/o sustaining
>serious injury.
>
>|>
>|> Have any anti-gun groups suggested non-lethal weapons, to counter
>|> the pro-gun argument that people will be left defenseless?
>
>I haven't heard of any. Generally they contend that people don't
>need to [or aren't able] to defend themselves.
>
>|>
>|> And, what legal restrictions/licensing apply to non-lethal devices?
>
>Civilian ownership of stun guns is frequently illegal [NY]. The sprays
>are also illegal in some states. Believe it or not, they are still
>illegal in NY, although about half the state thinks they are legal!
>[I believe that NY almost legalized them; i have heard that the reason
>they didn't was due to their ineffectiveness]
>
>I feel that the sprays are better than nothing, but only if the user
>does not believe the hype ["this'll drop 'em in their tracks" stuff]
>and uses it as a diversion o_n_l_y .
>-
>|>
>|> MarkS
>|> --
>|> Mark Shepard | shepard@netcom.com | Portola Valley, CA
>
>--
>Michael Phelps, (external) mjp@vnet.ibm.com ..
> (internal) mjp@bwa.kgn.ibm.com .. mjp at kgnvmy
> (and last but not least a disclaimer) These opinions are mine..
What about guns with non-lethal bullets, like rubber or plastic bullets. Would
those work very well in stopping an attack?
Doug Holland
|
6538 | From: hays@ssd.intel.com (Kirk Hays)
Subject: Re: "Proper gun control?" What is proper gun control? (was Re: My Gun is like my American Express Card)
Nntp-Posting-Host: taos
Organization: Intel Supercomputer Systems Division
Lines: 30
In article <15240077@iftccu.ca.boeing.com>, bressler@iftccu.ca.boeing.com (Rick Bressler) writes:
|> / iftccu:talk.politics.guns / hays@ssd.intel.com (Kirk Hays) / 3:31 pm Apr 13, 1993 /
|>
|> >Some of the pro-gun posters in this group own no guns. The dread
|> >"Terminator", aka "The Rifleman", owned no firearms for several years
|> >while posting in this group, as an example. There are others.
|>
|> Good point, Kirk.
|>
|> He's still around too. He's responded by email to a couple of my posts,
|> and gosh darn, he's gotten down right civil! This happed about the time
|> he got his first firearm. Wonder if there is a relationship here? Turns
|> out that MOST people (at least the ones who are not criminals to start
|> with) act responsibility once given the chance.
I'd like to point out that I was in error - "Terminator" began posting only
six months before he purchased his first firearm, according to private email
from him.
I can't produce an archived posting of his earlier than January 1992,
and he purchased his first firearm in March 1992.
I guess it only seemed like years.
Back to your regularly scheduled flame fest.
--
Kirk Hays - NRA Life, seventh generation.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to
do nothing." -- Edmund Burke (1729-1797)
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6539 | From: Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org>
Subject: Final Solution for Gaza ?
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1483500354:000:5791
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!cpr Apr 23 15:10:00 1993
Lines: 126
From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: Final Solution for Gaza ?
Final Solution for the Gaza ghetto ?
------------------------------------
While Israeli Jews fete the uprising of the Warsaw ghetto, they
repress by violent means the uprising of the Gaza ghetto and
attempt to starve the Gazans.
The Gaza strip, this tiny area of land with the highest population
density in the world, has been cut off from the world for weeks.
The Israeli occupier has decided to punish the whole population of
Gaza, some 700.000 people, by denying them the right to leave the
strip and seek work in Israel.
While Polish non-Jews risked their lives to save Jews from the
Ghetto, no Israeli Jew is known to have risked his life to help
the Gazan resistance. The only help given to Gazans by Israeli
Jews, only dozens of people, is humanitarian assistance.
The right of the Gazan population to resist occupation is
recognized in international law and by any person with a sense of
justice. A population denied basic human rights is entitled to
rise up against its tormentors.
As is known, the Israeli regime is considering Gazans unworthy of
Israeli citizenship and equal rights in Israel, although they are
considered worthy to do the dirty work in Israeli hotels, shops
and fields. Many Gazans are born in towns and villages located in
Israel. They may not live there, for these areas are reserved for
the Master Race.
The Nazi regime accorded to the residents of the Warsaw ghetto the
right to self- administration. They selected Jews to pacify the
occupied population and preventing any form of resistance. Some
Jewish collaborators were killed. Israel also wishes to rule over
Gaza through Arab collaborators.
As Israel denies Gazans the only two options which are compatible
with basic human rights and international law, that of becoming
Israeli citizens with full rights or respecting their right for
self-determination, it must be concluded that the Israeli Jewish
society does not consider Gazans full human beings. This attitude
is consistent with the attitude of the Nazis towards Jews. The
current policies by the Israeli government of cutting off Gaza are
consistent with the wish publicly expressed by Prime Mininister
Yitzhak Rabin that 'Gaza sink into the sea'. One is led to ask
oneself whether Israeli leaders entertain still more sinister
goals towards the Gazans ? Whether they have some Final Solution
up their sleeve ?
I urge all those who have slight human compassion to do whatever
they can to help the Gazans regain their full human, civil and
political rights, to which they are entitled as human beings.
Elias Davidsson Iceland
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Final Solution for the Gaza ghetto ?
------------------------------------
While Israeli Jews fete the uprising of the Warsaw ghetto, they
repress by violent means the uprising of the Gaza ghetto and
attempt to starve the Gazans.
The Gaza strip, this tiny area of land with the highest population
density in the world, has been cut off from the world for weeks.
The Israeli occupier has decided to punish the whole population of
Gaza, some 700.000 people, by denying them the right to leave the
strip and seek work in Israel.
While Polish non-Jews risked their lives to save Jews from the
Ghetto, no Israeli Jew is known to have risked his life to help
the Gazan resistance. The only help given to Gazans by Israeli
Jews, only dozens of people, is humanitarian assistance.
The right of the Gazan population to resist occupation is
recognized in international law and by any person with a sense of
justice. A population denied basic human rights is entitled to
rise up against its tormentors.
As is known, the Israeli regime is considering Gazans unworthy of
Israeli citizenship and equal rights in Israel, although they are
considered worthy to do the dirty work in Israeli hotels, shops
and fields. Many Gazans are born in towns and villages located in
Israel. They may not live there, for these areas are reserved for
the Master Race.
The Nazi regime accorded to the residents of the Warsaw ghetto the
right to self- administration. They selected Jews to pacify the
occupied population and preventing any form of resistance. Some
Jewish collaborators were killed. Israel also wishes to rule over
Gaza through Arab collaborators.
As Israel denies Gazans the only two options which are compatible
with basic human rights and international law, that of becoming
Israeli citizens with full rights or respecting their right for
self-determination, it must be concluded that the Israeli Jewish
society does not consider Gazans full human beings. This attitude
is consistent with the attitude of the Nazis towards Jews. The
current policies by the Israeli government of cutting off Gaza are
consistent with the wish publicly expressed by Prime Mininister
Yitzhak Rabin that 'Gaza sink into the sea'. One is led to ask
oneself whether Israeli leaders entertain still more sinister
goals towards the Gazans ? Whether they have some Final Solution
up their sleeve ?
I urge all those who have slight human compassion to do whatever
they can to help the Gazans regain their full human, civil and
political rights, to which they are entitled as human beings.
Elias Davidsson Iceland
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6540 | From: hudson@athena.cs.uga.edu (Paul Hudson Jr)
Subject: Re: Revelations
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Lines: 29
In article <Apr.9.01.11.00.1993.16923@athos.rutgers.edu> topcat!tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht) writes:
>Now, as to the suggestion that all prophecy tends to be somewhat cyclical,
>can you elaborate? I'm not exactly sure what you mean. How does the
>suggestion relate to Isaiah's prophecy of the birth of Christ by a virgin?
>I don't see any cycles in that prophecy.
Maybe cyclical is not the best word. That is one aspect of it. In the
case of the virgin birth prophecy, it applied to the then and there, and
also prophetically to Christ. The army that threatened the king would
cease to be a threat in a very short time. Yet it also prophecied of
Christ.
Several prophecies that refered to Christ also had application at the
time they were made. "Out of Egypt have I called my Son" refers both
to Israel, and prophetically to Christ. "Why do the heathen rage"
was said of David and also of Christ.
Another example would be the Scripture quoted of Judas, "and his bishoprick
let another take." Another example is something that Isaiah said of His
disciples which is also applied to Christ in Hebrews, "the children thou
hast given me."
How does the preterist view account for this phenomenon.
Link
Link Hudson.
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6541 | Subject: items for sale [must sell]
From: koutd@hiramb.hiram.edu (DOUGLAS KOU)
Organization: Hiram College
Nntp-Posting-Host: hiramb.hiram.edu
Lines: 62
Items for sale.....
This package was bought throught a award give-away company. I attempted
to cancel my order before I received the package, but I was too late and
the company refused to take the package back for refund. I know the truth
which I would never get my $697 back, but I wish to get my money back as
close as possible. Here is the describtion of the package...
Nishika 3D camera It takes very good picture, never been opended
or used. It came with wide angle flesh, carring
case, film, and a instruction video. It has four
lens and created a 3D effect on a regular 35mm
film.
Jewelry It came with the package as additional gift.
Bahama vacation voucher The voucher is good for two RT airfare to Freeport.
The users get a special hotel rate of $27 per-person
per-night. Meals, ground transfer, hotel tax is
_not_ included.
Las Vegas, Reno, Orlando The voucher provides one RT airfare, and
hotel accomodation for 3 days/ 2 nights.
Meals, ground transfer, hotel tax is not
included. The voucher is good for all 3
locations, but you can't travel to all 3
places at once.
Cancun, Mexico The voucher provides one RT airfare, and hotel
accomodation for 3 days / 2 nights. Meals and
ground transfer, hotel tax is not included as
usual.
I paid $697 for the whole package. So try not to be cold-blooded when you
make your offer. Details would be provided by request. I do wish to sell
the whole package at once. So if you are just looking for the vacation
vouchers, I don't care if you sell the camera to other for a higher pric
If you are interested in the camera, you could treat the vacation vouchers
as gift.
If you receive a letter in your mail box which says that you are selected
to be part of the sweeptake and you have at least one out of five awards.
Trust me, you would get the exactly the same package as I did. There is
only one award which will be given away. So don't bother even to call them
back, if you are really interested, you could get it from me for a cheaper
price. And you could receive the package within a week ( I waited three
months to get my first and final packages). Also, they would ask for your
credit card number and you have to pay for the interest to the credit
card company. So why spend more than you should when you could get them
from me for a cheaper price.
If you are interested, please reply to me as soon as posible. I really
wish to get this over with. Make me an offer, if I am confortable with
your offer, I would send the package by U.P.S. the next day morning.
More details could be given if you wish.
Please contact me at koutd@hirama.hiram.edu
Douglas Kou
Hiram College
e-mail address--- koutd@hirama.hiram.edu
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6542 | From: kmembry@viamar.UUCP (Kirk Membry)
Subject: Pixel font
Reply-To: rutgers!viamar!kmembry
Organization: Private System
Lines: 9
I'm looking for a font that looks like pixels off of a monitor
(not the lcd kind of font though)
does anyone know where I can get one?
--
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Kirk Membry "Our Age is the Age of Industry"
rutgers!viamar!kmembry - Alexander Rodchenko
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6543 | From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Subject: Re: My Gun is like my American Express Card
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Lines: 122
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com
In article <CMM.0.90.2.734911642.thomasp@surt.ifi.uio.no>, Thomas Parsli <thomasp@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> If I would like to have a handgun, i would have to get an gun-licence from
> the police and to be a member of a gun-club.
> The police would check my criminal records for any SERIOUS crimes and/or
> records of SERIOUS mental diseases.
> Now, if a got my licence, I would have to be an active member of the gun
> -club for 6 months BEFORE I could collect my gun.
So, like, what do you do during those six months to be "active?"
My town has a similar requirement, and it's rather stupid. Before
you can buy a handgun, you have to be an active member of a gun club.
Well, how active can you be without a gun, chief?
Most gun owners feel a check of criminal records for crimes and mental
disorders would be a very good thing -- IF it couldn't be abused by the
government. But every time this is proposed, there is always some
trapdoor by which the government can deny your purchase EVEN IF you
are perfectly qualified to own a gun. And we oppose this.
> It's a little like getting a drivers licence isn't it ???
> You have to prove that you CAN drive before you are allowed to...
Since the fatal accident rate for licensed automobile drivers in the US
is around 50 times the fatal accident rate of largely unlicensed gun
owners, I'd think twice before using this analogy.
Besides, the problem is criminal use of guns, not accidents. (There
are about 500,000 criminal uses of guns in the US every year -- but
only 1,400 accidents.) I don't think it's necessary to spend a lot
of energy making sure a criminal CAN shoot a gun before he gets one.
Just like the check, most gun owners feel positively about requiring
safety courses -- IF they couldn't be abused by the government. But
they already have! One state doesn't hold the courses, another doesn't
fund them, a third holds them only once a year with limited attendence
to those with political connections. Is this fair?
> Most criminals accuire guns to use them in crimes, and mostly short
> time befor the crime.
And how many of them acquire these guns from legal retail outlets?
How many are borrowed, stolen, smuggled, bought on the black market?
> Use of knives:
> It IS allowed to cary knifes in public, but not in your belt or 'open'.
> You (Americans) think it's ok to have a gun, but not to carry it open
> in public -rigth ??
Some states allow ONLY open carry. Some allow ONLY concealed carry.
Some allow both. Some allow both, but require licenses for concealed
carry. All you can say is if one of these modes has a clear advantage
over another in terms of reducing crime or any other public good,
then state legislators SOMEPLACE are doing exactly the wrong thing.
Which means that they really don't have any objective reasons for
these laws other than their preferences -- a bad way to govern.
> Scandinavians ARE 'aggressive':
> We northeners are not as hot-livered as southeners, but when we decide
> to take action we DO.
("Hot-livered." I LOVE that expression. Here, we say "hot-headed.")
> Individual vs masses:
> Yes the individual is more important than the masses, but only to some
> extent....
> Your criminal laws are to protect the individuals who makes the masses ??
> What happens when the rigths of some individuals affects the rights of
> all the others ??
Typically, the only criminals who can affect the rights of ALL the other
people are criminals in government offices. The rest of our criminals
affect the rights of only one or a few people at a time, and they do this
during the commission of a crime. POSSESSION of a gun by someone hurts
NO ONE else. It is when they do something violent with that gun that
the crime occurs. Of course, it is a crime for a felon or ex-felon to
possess a gun, but we don't feel it is right to treat common citizens
who have lived good lives as if they were just "pre-felons" waiting to
commit crimes.
> We shouldn't mix weapons and items that can serve as one....
I don't understand this sentence.
> IF i lived in Amerika I would probably have a gun to defend myselfe in HOME.
> But should it have to be like that ??
Life isn't fair. I shouldn't need a fire extinguisher either, or
flood and theft insurance, or to lock the doors of my house and car.
But pining for a better world won't do anything to address what I have
to do to live in this one.
> Do you think it's wise to sell guns like candy (some states do...) ??
None of ours, I'm sure.
> If you believe it's smart/neccacery to have drivers-licence WHY do you think
> it should be free to buy guns ??
Frankly, I'm not sure I know what good a driver's license does anyone,
either. The people who drive safely never use it, and the people who
drive drunk, drive without it!
However, a car is a good tool, but not one that protects my right to life.
I rank the right to life somewhere north of the right to travel freely.
> I'm not a pacifist or anti gun.
> I would defend my home, loved ones and country, but I don't view guns as
> neccities or toys.
> I HAVE done army service, and HAVE used a variaty of weapons, but wouldn't
> want to have one for self defence or because they 'feel good'....
The question is not whether or not you want to own guns personally. It's
whether or not you think that ALL people should be forced to do as you do.
I don't have any problem with someone who says they would never own a gun.
I do have a problem with someone who says I should be prevented from owning
one, too.
--
cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company,
OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
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6544 | From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: Open letter to NISSAN (Really Station Wagon)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Lines: 10
In article <Apr16.000710.27408@engr.washington.edu> eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (eliot) writes:
>
>this week's autoweek talks about how wagons are getting back in vogue.
>i wouldn't mind an audi s4 wagon (great stealth value) but you'll
>never catch me dead in a minivan!
even a minivan based on viper running gear?
-teddy
p.s. i think the audi S4 gets a 4.2 liter V-8 next year.
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6545 | From: mlee@eng.sdsu.edu (Mike Lee)
Subject: Wire-Amperage table needed
Organization: San Diego State University Computing Services
Lines: 5
NNTP-Posting-Host: eng.sdsu.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
Does anyone has a table about the size of the wire to the amount of current it can carry. Probably in the 1-15amp range. My friend is interested in converting a Mazda into an electric car. Needed information for estimation. Thanks in advance.
p.s. any info on electric will be greatly appreaciated.
|
6546 | From: Gary Keim <gk5g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: X Toolkits
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 32
NNTP-Posting-Host: po4.andrew.cmu.edu
In-Reply-To: <C5y8wJ.3zE@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Excerpts from netnews.comp.windows.x: 23-Apr-93 X Toolkits Paul
Prescod@undergrad.m (1132)
> I am getting Linux, so I will have InterViews, but I don't know how it
> will look. I get the impression Andrew is from the FSF, but I don't
> know what it looks like either.
If you're on the internet and your site isn't sheltered from external
tcp/ip traffic, you can use the Remote Andrew Demo to see what the
Andrew Toolkit looks like:
Remote Andrew Demo Service
This network service allows you to run Andrew Toolkit applications
without the overhead of obtaining or compiling the Andrew software. You
need a host machine on the Internet, and you need to be running the X11
window system. A simple "finger" command will allow you to experience
ATK applications firsthand. You'll be able to compose multimedia
documents, navigate through the interactive Andrew Tour, and use the
Andrew Message System to browse through CMU's three thousand bulletin
boards and newsgroups.
To use the Remote Andrew Demo service, simply run the following command
on your machine:
finger help@atk.itc.cmu.edu
The service will give you further instructions.
Gary Keim
Andrew Consortium
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6547 | From: npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar)
Subject: Re: Drinking and Riding
Nntp-Posting-Host: bmdhh299
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Lines: 28
>Norman Hamer (maven@eskimo.com) wrote:
> What is a general rule of thumb for sobriety and cycling? A couple of hours
> after you "feel" sober, or what? Should I just work with "If I drink
> tonight, I don't ride until tomorrow"?
I generally find that after two or three decent hits of nitrous, my riding
improves enormously. Drinking is silly, your breath smells, it costs lots
of money and the pigs can detect it with their machines. NO2 works for me,
try it.
Nick (the like wow, um, far out, er, Biker) DoD 1069 Concise um errr....
M'like um, er Lud.
___ ___ ___ ___
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' ` ` ' ' ` ` ' Currently incarcerated at BNR,
___ ___ ___ ___ Maidenhead, The United Kingdom.
|"_"| |"_"| |"_"| |"_"| npet@bnr.ca '86 BMW K100RS "Kay"
` ' ' ` .` ' ' ` Pres. PBWASOH(UK), BS 0002
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6548 | From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Re: Space Research Spin Off
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA
Lines: 29
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
In article <SHAFER.93Apr6094402@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov> shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) writes:
>Dryden flew the first digital fly by wire aircraft in the 70s. No
>mechnaical or analog backup, to show you how confident we were.
Confident, or merely crazed? That desert sun :-)
>successful we were. (Mind you, the Avro Arrow and the X-15 were both
>fly-by-wire aircraft much earlier, but analog.)
>
Gee, I thought the X-15 was Cable controlled. Didn't one of them have a
total electrical failure in flight? Was there machanical backup systems?
|
|The NASA habit of acquiring second-hand military aircraft and using
|them for testbeds can make things kind of confusing. On the other
|hand, all those second-hand Navy planes give our test pilots a chance
|to fold the wings--something most pilots at Edwards Air Force Base
|can't do.
|
What do you mean? Overstress the wings, and they fail at teh joints?
You'll have to enlighten us in the hinterlands.
pat
|
6549 | From: pwb@aerg.canberra.edu.au (Paul Blackman)
Subject: Re: Workspace Manager for Win 3.1 ?
Organization: University of Canberra
Lines: 26
In article <1r5uml$620@werple.apana.org.au> jamie@zikzak.apana.org.au (Jamie Scuglia) writes:
>Are there any Workspace Managers out there for Windows 3.1 ?
Try WorkShift by Karl Thoreddson. The latest version is 2.0 (or later?) but
the following is at Cica in the Desktop directory.
WRKSFT16 ZIP : WorkShift Graphical Virtual Desktop (ver 1.6)
Or email Karl and ask him to put version 2.0 up
Karl's email: karlth@rhi.hi.is (from the MS-Write file of v1.6)
I was Beta tester for WorkShift and must say it is very good
(I gain nothing from saying that).
It'll even remember your WorkShifts (WorkSpaces as you said) between
Windows sessions.
>Thanks in advance.
Your Welcome.
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
o | Paul Blackman pwb@science.canberra.edu.au
o | Water Research Centre, pwb@aerg.canberra.edu.au
o _ | Faculty of Applied Science
-- (") o | University of Canberra, Australia.
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| | "Spend a little love and get high"
_/ \_ | - Lenny Kravitz
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6550 | From: pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger)
Subject: Re: Dodger Question
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Lines: 31
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu
The Dodgers have been shopping Harris to other teams in their
quest for more left-handed pitching. So far, no takers.
Personally, I think Harris is a defensive liability, and he
has also led the team in past years for hitting into double
plays, or at least been among the leaders.
Sharperson showed last year that if given a chance to play
every day, he can get the job done. If Sharpy played just
one base every day, say third, he'd also improve defensively.
Wallach has helped tremendously on defense, as has Reed.
The improved defense is quite noticeable and is having an
effect on the pitching staff. Both Astacio AND Martinez
were bailed out in recent starts by great defensive plays.
Martinez pitched into the ninth in a game that might
have seen him lifted in the third in past years.
Astacio lasted 7 innings the other day under similar circumstances.
The Dodgers are turning double plays, and keeping more balls
in the infield than last year. And Piazza has also been great
on defense. He has thrown out 10 of 14 batters trying to
steal and has at least one pick off at first.
Wallach, clearly, has contributed to the over all improvement on
defense. But his offense is awful and he has cost the Dodgers
some runs. But I don't think he is as bad as his current average.
I suspect he will come out of this slump much as Davis and Straw
seem to have come out of theirs.
Dodger
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6551 | From: wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart +1-908-949-0705)
Subject: Re: text of White House announcement and Q&As on clipper chip encryption
Organization: Mary Ellen Carter Salvage Crew
Distribution: na
In-Reply-To: jhesse@netcom.com's message of Sat, 17 Apr 1993 01:36:41 GMT
Keywords: Big Bubba Is Watching!
<jhesseC5Ltt5.IMC@netcom.com>
Nntp-Posting-Host: rainier.ho.att.com
Lines: 25
In article <jhesseC5Ltt5.IMC@netcom.com> jhesse@netcom.com (John Hesse) writes:
Stupid me. I believed the Democrats stood for principles of personal
privacy while it was the Neanderthal Republicans that wanted into every
aspect of our lives.
Clinton is just more clever than the other guy. Looks like gun control for
privacy technology. One small step at a time.
Remember "Defend Firearms - Defeat Dukakis", followed by Bush's soon-after-
election support for gun-control? This is the Democrats' version
"Defend Free Speech - Reject Republicans" followed by speech control.
Wait a minute.... Let me think about this.
Hmmm, I feel better now. I believe the White House when they tell us
this first step is, in fact, the final step. All is OK. We've nothing to fear.
They're here to help us. God bless America.
Hey, like the grrreat J.R. "Bob" Dobbs says, you've got to pull the
wool over your *own* eyes!
--
# Pray for peace; Bill
# Bill Stewart 1-908-949-0705 wcs@anchor.att.com AT&T Bell Labs 4M312 Holmdel NJ
# No, I'm *from* New Jersey, I only *work* in cyberspace....
# White House Commect Line 1-202-456-1111 fax 1-202-456-2461
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6552 | From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Subject: Re: Is it good that Jesus died?
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco
Lines: 203
brian@lpl.arizona.edu (Brian Ceccarelli 602/621-9615) writes:
>bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) writes:
>
>>And I maintain:
>>
>>Some people do not want to enter into the light and the knowledge that
>>they alone are their own masters, because they fear it; they are too
>>afraid of having to face the world on their own terms. ...
>
>Are you your own master? Do you have any habits that you cannot break?
If I have a habit that I really want to break, and I am willing to
make whatever sacrifice I need to make to break it, then I do so.
There have been bad habits of mine that I've decided to put forth the
effort to break, and I've done so; there have been other bad habits
that I've decided are not worth the effort to break. It's my choice,
either way.
I am my own master. I choose what I want to do. I weigh the benefits
of my actions against their consequences, and I use my experience to
help me deal with the unexpected, which in turn make me more experienced.
I don't always succeed, but I never fail, either -- I learn.
Do *you* have any habits you can't break? Why not?
>For one, you seem unable to master your lack of desire to understand
>even the slightest concept of the Bible.
I have arrived at my own understanding of Christianity, just as you've
probably arrived at your own understanding of Islam that is most
likely very different from the way a Moslem thinks of his religion.
Are you "unable to master your lack of desire to understand even the
slightest concept of the Quran"? If that's different, then how is it
different from what you accuse me of? Can I accuse you of having no
desire to understand even the slightest concept of atheism?
>How about sexual sins? Gotta any of those secret desires
>in your head that you harbor but can get control of? Do you dehumanize
>women when they walk past you? Do you degrade them to a sex object in
>your head?
Of COURSE not. That's disgusting. For centuries, religions have been
discriminating on sex and treating women as second-class humans;
that's one of the reasons I renounced my Christianity.
>Do you insult
>people unknowingly, then regret it later. Yet do it again the next
>time opportunity presents itself?
No. I don't insult people. Period. It's not in my nature, and it's
not something that I want to do, either.
>Are you truly the master of yourself?
Not yet -- but my life is the ground I use to practice on. The fun is
in the getting there!
>I have admitted that I am not the master of my thought life at all times.
>That I sometimes say things I do want to say, and then repeat my mistake
>unwantingly. I have admitted to myself that I cannot control every aspect
>of my being. There are times I know I shouldn't say something, but
>then say it anyway. There are times I simply forget a lesson.
>I, in fact, am not my own master.
We don't start out perfect; we've got to strive to be something
better. I know my shortcomings, and I know my strengths, and I live
my life according to the decisions I make, and I am content to abide
with the consequences of my decisions as easily as I'll accept the
praise for them. There have been times in my life when I've made
mistakes, yes; I try to never make the same mistake twice.
>I need help. Jesus promised me
>this help. And I took him up on his offer. I have willfully let
>Jesus be my master because Jesus knows what is better for me than
>I myself do.
I regard Christ as a myth. I feel that there are far too many people
offering far too many interpretations of what he supposedly said and
did. The only person who can really judge me is *me*. I choose the
roads I travel, and I decide whether or not I want to reach the end of
any given road or turn back -- and as long as I don't *always* turn
back, there's no shame in it. When I need help, I seek out my friends.
>>Do you see my point? I think you're the one under the rock, and I'm
>>getting a great tan out here in the sunlight. My life has improved
>>immesurably since I abandoned theism -- come and join me! It will be
>>a difficult trip at first, until you build up your muscles for the
>>long hike, but it's well worth it!
>
>Then I guess ignorance is bliss for you. Because Brian, you enjoy
>not having a clue about the Bible.
And you don't have a clue about what I'm saying, either. Open your
eyes and SEE; open your ears and LISTEN. I'm not just spouting off
empty words. This is my LIFE, this is what gives me MEANING.
>>Don't you see? I'm not going to accept ANYTHING that I can't witness
>>with my own eyes or experience with my own senses, especially not
>>something as mega-powerful as what you're trying to get me to accept.
>>Surely if you believe in it this strongly, you must have a good
>>*reason* to, don't you?
>
>Can you witness motherly love with your senses? How does caring and
>concern for you register with your senses? If nothing registers
>to you other than what you can see, taste, smell, hear and touch,
>then you better become a Vulcan and fast. You better get rid
>of your emotions.
Huh? You're going WAY off the track here.
I say my mother loves me. How do I know, you ask? I can point to
definite things she's done for me, and I can even just bring her to
you so you can ask her, face-to-face.
You say your deity loves you. How do you know, I ask? You can't even
convince me that it exists!
>My God says that you will not CEASE EXISTING. You have
>life forever. You can choose to either live it in hell in eternal
>torment where there is no communication whatsoever, or can choose to
>live it in paradise with God. That is what my God says. And that
>was the issue. Your made-up theism is what it is--made up. It's
>wishful thinking.
If any god dangles 'heaven' before me like a carrot, promising untold
pleasures to me if I'll only suspend my disbelief and ignore my
rationality for just this once, then I would choose 'hell'. I can
*not* lie to myself to placate another being, no matter how powerful
it is.
Note also that there are several gods trying to lure me this way:
Yahweh, Allah, Zeus, Odin, Ra... Please give me a solid reason to
choose one of them over the others.
[ description of Kendigism deleted -- hee hee! ]
>Why would you want to live a good life?
>To you, you die and that's it. Don't contradict yourself. You have
>no reason to live a good life. It doesn't do you any good in the
>end. Your life doesn't do anybody else any good either because
>everyone dies anyway. So you have no reason to lead a good life. Leading
>a good life is meaningless. Why do you do such a meaningless thing?
That paragraph demonstrates that you haven't listened to a single word
I've said.
Have you ever gone to an amusement park? Why? I mean, after a few
hours, it closes, and nothing's different except that you're a few
dollars lighter. Going to the amusement park doesn't do you any good
at all. Why do you do such a meaningless thing?
The answer is that you think it's fun. You play the skee-ball over
and over because you'd like to get better at it, even though you're
not going to win anything better than a stuffed animal even if you
blow ten dollars on it. You ride the roller coaster because it's an
thrilling experience, even though (because?) it scares the dickens out
of you.
In the same way, I think life is fun. And I don't intend to leave the
amusement park of life until they close down for the night! :-D
>>I'm sorry, I don't feel that sacrificing Jesus was something any god
>>I'd worship would do, unless the sacrifice was only temporary, in
>>which case it's not really all that important.
>
>Has the resurrection sunk in? Jesus is alive. Jesus is NOT dead.
So you (and your holy book) say. By the same token, therefore, Santa
Claus delivers toys every xmas. Don't you see? I have NO REASON to
believe that what you say is true. Please give me some reason that I
can't similarly apply to Santa Claus.
>>Forget the Bible for a minute. Forget quoting verses, forget about
>>who said what about this or that. *Show me.* Picture just you and me
>>and a wide open hilltop, and convince me that you're right.
>
>Forget that I am a person. Forget that I know how to type. Forget
>that I know how to put a sentence together. Forget that I know
>how to send e-mail. Forget my existence. Proove to me that I
>exist. .
I can't do it, because your existence means nothing more to me than
just your communications over the net. You have no more bearing on
nor importance in my life than that; remove it, and you will cease to
be significant to me.
Are you thereby inferring that your deity is nothing more than a
collection of verses in a book, and cannot be supported without
invoking them?
Or do you mean that the existence of your deity (and, in fact, any
other deity that can be written about) is as real as your own
existence?
Why do you believe what you believe?
--
_/_/_/ Brian Kendig Je ne suis fait comme aucun
/_/_/ bskendig@netcom.com de ceux que j'ai vus; j'ose croire
_/_/ n'etre fait comme aucun de ceux qui existent.
/ The meaning of life Si je ne vaux pas mieux, au moins je suis autre.
/ is that it ends. -- Rousseau
|
6553 | From: kelleyb@austin.ibm.com (Kelley Boylan)
Subject: Re: IIsi at 33MHz success story
Originator: kelleyb@kelleyb.austin.ibm.com
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: kelleyb@austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Austin, PowerPC
Lines: 17
> Howdy folks. Back in September or October '92 I posted instructions
> on how to upgrade the IIsi to 25mhz by doin' a little solderin'.
> People bolder than me have reported that they've done the same
> procedure, but put in a 66mhz oscillator instead of 50. (Thus running
> the cpu at 33mhz instead of 25.) So I tried it and I'll be darned if
> it doesn't work.
Has anyone tried or does anyone know if this procedure will work on
an SE/30? Mine's old, slow, and in need of either death or power.
-Kelley-
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Thomas Kelley Boylan, PowerPC, IBM Austin, (512) 838-1869
---------------------------------------------------------
kelleyb@austin.ibm.com
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6554 | From: crash@ckctpa.UUCP (Frank "Crash" Edwards)
Subject: Re: forms for curses
Reply-To: crash%ckctpa@myrddin.sybus.com (Frank "Crash" Edwards)
Organization: Edwards & Edwards Consulting
Lines: 40
Note the Followup-To: header ...
steelem@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (STEELE MARK A) writes:
>Is there a collection of forms routines that can be used with curses?
>If so where is it located?
On my SVR4 Amiga Unix box, I've got -lform, -lmenu, and -lpanel for
use with the curses library. Guess what they provide? :-)
Unix Press, ie. Prentice-Hall, has a programmer's guide for these
tools, referred to as the FMLI (Forms Mgmt Language Interface) and
ETI (Extended Terminal Interface), now in it's 2nd edition. It is
ISBN 0-13-020637-7.
Paraphrased from the outside back cover:
FMLI is a high-level programming tool for creating menus, forms,
and text frames. ETI is a set of screen management library
subroutines that promote fast development of application programs
for window, panel, menu, and form manipulation.
The FMLI is a shell package which reads ascii text files and produces
screen displays for data entry and presentation. It consists of a
"shell-like" environment of the "fmli" program and it's database
files. It is section 1F in the Unix Press manual.
The ETI are subroutines, part of the 3X manual section, provide
support for a multi-window capability on an ordinary ascii terminal
with controls built on top of the curses library.
>Thanks
>-Mark Steele
>steelem@rintintin.colorado.edu
--
Frank "Crash" Edwards Edwards & Edwards Consulting
Voice: 813/786-3675 crash%ckctpa@myrddin.sybus.com, but please
Data: 813/787-3675 don't ask UUNET to route it -- it's sloooow.
There will be times in life when everyone you meet smiles and pats you on
the back and tells you how great you are ... so hold on to your wallet.
|
6555 | From: RUTIJOH1@chico.acc.iit.edu (USERS)
Subject: Re: > Re: > RE: 1024 x 768 video on Q800 --- adaptor pinouts
In-Reply-To: Gene's message of Wed, 14 Apr 1993 18:06:15 GMT
Organization: ILLINOIS INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY, CHICAGO
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24
Lines: 17
> This does not make sence...why would the 4FG work but the 3FGx not
> work...it is the
> same monitor without accucolor and digital controls...works fine at
> 1024x768 with
> SVGA...what's the deal....anyway you can get a SVGA 14" with .28mm and
> 1024x7 68
> for $279 at Damark...are you saing that it probably would work while a
> $600 NEC won't?
The 3FGx has a maximum horizontal scan rate of 49KHz, so driving it
at 60.24KHz to get 1024 x 768 on the Mac is WAY BEYOND the tolerance The 4FG is spec'ed at 57KHz, so going 60.24KHz is only 5-6% above
the minimally guaranteed figure.
I too doubt if the Damark monitor would sync to a Mac at 1024 x 768. Like most things, you get what you pay. That's the deal.
-John Rutirasiri.
P.S. I wouldn't have posted if I wasn't sure.
|
6556 | From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Subject: Re: Food For Thought On Tyre
Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau
Lines: 62
I was curious to check out how many San Jose Mercury News mentioned
Tyre (1990-92). Here's the outcome from the research (condenced versions,
copyright San Jose Mercury news):
---
Bombings in the two largest cities in southern Lebanon killed 11 people
and
wounded 80 others. A car bomb blew up in Tyre, killing 10 people and
wounding
75. A man was killed and five others seriously wounded in an explosion in
Nabatiye.
---
An Israeli navy patrol boat attacked and sank a rubber guerrilla boat off
southern Lebanon early today, killing the two men aboard, the army command
said.
It said in a communique that a Dvora patrol boat opened fire on the
motorized rubber dinghy north of Tyre after identifying it as hostile. The
army
said no one on the Israeli boat was injured. The affiliation of the slain
guerrillas was not immediately known.
---
Rival factions of the guerrilla group led by terrorist mastermind Abu
Nidal
battled Sunday in Tyre, Lebanon, with machine guns and rocket-propelled
grenades, killing at least four people and wounding 15, police said.
---
Lebanon's mainstream Shiite Muslim militia said Thursday that it had
uncovered a network of tunnels in a southern Lebanese village where it said
pro-
Iranian kidnappers had held Western hostages.
Officials of the militia, Amal, led local journalists through the
catacomb-
like alleys and showed them two cells with iron doors at the village,
Kawthariyet al Siyad, near Tyre, the ancient port city, about 40 miles
south of
Beirut.
The officials said they were certain that U.S. Marine Lt. Col. William
R.
Higgins was detained there shortly after he was seized by gunmen on a road
outside Tyre in February 1988.
--------------
...anyway, I counted 20 articles during these 3 years of reporting. I also
found out the possible reason why the numbers for the inhabitants of the
city is defined between 14000 and 24000. It seems that Tyre is one of the
places
where people from Libanon flee to during more extensive bombings, so
there's
a constant flow of refugees entering and leaving Tyre (articles mentioned
thousands of people entering and leaving this place).
I counted 0 articles for my home town, Kristinestad, so from now I will
consider this place to be a fishing village :-).
Cheers,
Kent
---
sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
|
6557 | From: mmchugh@andy.bgsu.edu (michael mchugh)
Subject: Rolling Stones 45 rpm singles for sale
Keywords: Rolling Stones 45 rpm singles
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Lines: 17
I have the following 45 rpm singles for sale. Most are collectable 7-inch
records with picture sleeves. Price does not include postage which is $1.21
for the first record, $1.69 for two, etc.
Rolling Stones|19th Nervous Brakdown (London Picture Sleeve)|$10
Rolling Stones|Jumpin Jack Flash (London Picture Sleeve)|$10
Rolling Stones|Mothers Little Helper (London Picture Sleeve)|$10
Rolling Stones|Paint It, Black (London Picture Sleeve)|$10
If you are intereste, please contact:
Michael McHugh
mmchugh@andy.bgsu.edu
|
6558 | From: Steve Frampton <frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca>
Subject: Is "Kermit" available for Windows 3.0/3.1?
Summary: Looking for Windows Kermit.
Keywords: windows kermit comm app
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Distribution: world
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, Ontario, CANADA
Lines: 16
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hello all:
I was wondering, is the "Kermit" package (the actual package, not a
different program with Kermit file transfers) available for Microsoft
Windows 3.0/3.1?
Any information would be greatly appreciated. Please e-mail or post.
Thanks in advance!
+--------+< Unabashed Shabba Ranks Fan! >+------+--------------------+
| Steve Frampton - frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca | Steve Frampton |
| I collect postcards! If you send me one from | 501-A Princess St. |
| your area, I'll send one in return. Send to >| Kingston, Ontario |
| (Don't forget both email and mailing address) | CANADA K7L 1C3 |
+-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
|
6559 | From: jim@n5ial.mythical.com (Jim Graham)
Subject: Re: Possible FAQ question about a UART
Organization: what, ME??? you must be joking.
Lines: 26
In article <1qjp2bINN815@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com> glang@slee01.srl.ford.com
(Gordon Lang) writes:
>National Semiconductor. I don't know if other manufacturers make equivalent
>chips or not. Maybe National isn't even the original, but they are the only
>one that I know about. NS16450, NS16C450, NS16C451, NS16550AF, NS16C551, and
>NS16C552.
no argument on going direct to National (see my previous post on this topic),
but some info regarding what you said above. I don't know about the 8250 or
16450, but NS was the original source for the 16550 series (and I strongly
suspect that they developed the others first, too).
I can also tell you that I'm one of those who won't buy a UART made by
anyone other than National Semiconductor.
--jim
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E-mail me for information about KAMterm (host mode for Kantronics TNCs).
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6560 | From: ferguson@cs.rochester.EDU (George Ferguson)
Subject: Xarchie-2.0 available on export
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Rochester
Lines: 40
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterpoop.mit.edu
To: xannounce@expo.lcs.mit.edu
[Please accept the following announcement for comp.windows.x.announce. -gf]
A completely revamped version of the X11 browser interface to Archie,
Xarchie, is now available as
export.lcs.mit.edu:/contrib/xarchie-2.0.tar.Z
For those not familar with Archie or Xarchie, I include part of the
manpage intro:
Xarchie is an X11 browser interface to the Archie Internet information
system using the Prospero virtual filesystem protocol. Archie
provides information about files available for ftp anywhere on the
Internet; Xarchie displays this information using an easy-to-use,
point-and-click interface. Xarchie allows you to further explore ftp
sites by examining directories returned as query matches, and allows
you to retrieve files located this way.
Xarchie 2.0 has been extensively tested on R4, R5, and a variety of
other flavors of X, and on a wide range of machines. A summary of the
new features (from the README) follows:
* Major improvements include:
- Multiple selections allowed in browser for use with other new
features (FWF MultiList widget).
- Ability to expand directories in browser.
- Real fully-integrated ftp implementation.
- Ability to save and reload query results, as well as print them.
- Ability to resort results, and sort results by user-definable
pseudo-weights.
- Online help browser.
- Color resources, done so that they don't break mono displays.
- FWF FileSelector widget for local file operations.
- Makefile.dst's supplied for the imake-impaired.
George
--
George Ferguson ARPA: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu
Dept. of Computer Science UUCP: rutgers!rochester!ferguson
University of Rochester VOX: (716) 275-2527
Rochester NY 14627-0226 FAX: (716) 461-2018
|
6561 | From: trrrc@rc.rit.edu (Thomas R. Ridley)
Subject: Token Ring Cards for Macs
Nntp-Posting-Host: mutsu.rc.rit.edu
Organization: RIT Research Corp
Distribution: usa
Lines: 6
I am looking for recommendations/experiences of bringing Macintosh CPUs
onto Token-Ring Nets. Can someone point me in the right direction for
information.
Thanks in advance.
-Tom
|
6562 | From: andyl@harlqn.co.uk (Andy Latto)
Subject: Re: Off the shelf cheap DES keyseach machine (Was: Re: Corporate acceptance of the wiretap chip)
In-Reply-To: smb@research.att.com's message of Wed, 21 Apr 1993 13:23:18 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host: epcot.harlequin.com
Organization: Harlequin Limited, Cambridge, England
<1993Apr20.150531.2059@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
<1993Apr20.192105.11751@ulysses.att.com> <C5sy1z.4tD@demon.co.uk>
<1993Apr21.132318.16981@ulysses.att.com>
Lines: 42
In article <1993Apr21.132318.16981@ulysses.att.com> smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
In article <C5sy1z.4tD@demon.co.uk>, Graham Toal <gtoal@gtoal.com> writes:
> In article <1993Apr20.192105.11751@ulysses.att.com> smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
> :Thousands? Tens of thousands? Do some arithmetic, please... Skipjack
> :has 2^80 possible keys.
>
> We don't yet know if all 80 bits count.
That doesn't worry me at all; they're not going to cheat at something
they can get caught at. And key size is one of the things that can be
verified externally. Feed lots of random key/input pairs into the
chip, then try flipping random key bits, and see what happens to the
output. We already know what *should* happen -- about half the output
bits should vary, on average, from a 1-bit key change or input change.
If they were out to build a weak cryptosystem, it might be the case that
some of the bits are much less powerful than others, in the sense that
they only enter into the encryption very late in the game. By contrast,
DES was designed to use each key bit as early as possible; the 50% output
change rate appears as early as round 5. Again, though, I don't think
NSA is going to cheat that crudely; they're likely to get caught.
Consider a cryptosytem that starts out by XORing bits 23 and 47, and
not using either of these bits except through this XOR. This system
makes early use of every bit. but an exhaustive key search would now
only have 2^79 keys to search. Your test by varying single key bits
wouldn't turn up anything interesting.
Remember that they've promised to let a committee of outside experts see
the cryptosystem design. If you assume something DES-like, a biased
subkey generation schedule will stick out like a sore thumb.
The algorithm I suggest above would stick out like a sore thumb, but
I'm sure I could design a system with a more subtle key redundancy
which was well-hidden, but would still make an exhaustive key search
take far less than 2^80 encryptions. I don't believe your claim that
the real keysize can be verified externally.
Andy Latto
andyl@harlequin.com
|
6563 | From: topcat!tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht)
Subject: Re: Revelations
Organization: Applied Presuppositionalism, Ltd.
Lines: 25
phil.launchbury@almac.co.uk (Phil Launchbury) writes:
> >The "apostate church" of Revelation most likely refers to the 1st century
> >Jews who rejected their Messiah and had Him crucified. John refers to them
> I'm afraid not. It refers to the church that Christ founded. Many, many
> times he warns that the church will fall away into heresy as do the
> apostles. For an example look at the parables in Matthew 13:31-33. They
> refer to 'the kingdom of heaven' (the church) and the process of how
> they will be corrupted.
Sorry, but I think this interpretation of the Matthew 13 parables is
nonsense. I.e.,
> 'yeast' - *ALWAYS* stands for sin/corruption/heresy. For example 'beware
> of the yeast of the Pharisees'. ...
Matthew 16:12 explains that by "leaven of the Pharisees" Jesus was simply
referring to their teaching; not sin/corruption/heresy.
Jesus gaves His apostles the keys of the kingdom and said that
the gates of hell would not prevail against His church.
--
Tom Albrecht
|
6564 | From: maynard@leah.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley)
Subject: QuickDraw GX (was Re: When are the rest of the Inside Mac's due?)
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Lines: 21
>>
>>We'll be releasing a whole new suite of QuickDraw GX-related docs. If
>>you're going to be at the WWDC next month you'll get a preliminary
>version
>>of most of this documentation on the CD. We're talking multiple
>thousands
>>of pages, I'm afraid; GX (comprising graphics, layout and printing)
>has
>>LOTS of new API calls and other functionality, all of which need
>documenting...
>>
>>Dave Opstad
>>GX Line Layout Weenie
Does GX take the place of 32 bit QD or add to it? Right now 32 bit is
kinda aesthetically a pain in a few places because of hacks upon hacks
to maintain compatibility with original QD---I think of things like
where you have to cast CGrafPorts to GrafPorts and such. It would be a
lot cleaner to ditch this entire mess and start over---do we get that?
Maynard
|
6565 | From: davel@davelpcSanDiego.NCR.com (Dave Lord)
Subject: Re: REQUEST: Gyro (souvlaki) sauce
Reply-To: davel@davelpcSanDiego.NCR.com (Dave Lord)
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA
Lines: 13
In article <1r8pcn$rm1@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>, Donald Mackie
<Donald_Mackie@med.umich.edu> writes:
> In article <1993Apr22.205341.172965@locus.com> Michael Trofimoff,
> tron@fafnir.la.locus.com writes:
> >Would anyone out there in 'net-land' happen to have an
> >authentic, sure-fire way of making this great sauce that
> >is used to adorn Gyro's and Souvlaki?
>
> I'm not sure of the exact recipe, but I'm sure acidophilus is one of
> the major ingredients. :-)
It's plain yoghurt with grated cucumber and coriander (other spices are
sometimes used). Some people use half yoghurt and half mayonaise.
|
6566 | From: robin@ntmtv.com (Robin Coutellier)
Subject: Critique of Pressure Point Massager
Originator: robin@volans
Nntp-Posting-Host: volans
Reply-To: robin@ntmtv.com (Robin Coutellier)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Distribution: na
Lines: 141
As promised, below is a personal critique of a Pressure Point Massager
I recently bought from the Self Care Catalog. I am very pleased with
the results. The catalog description is as follows:
The Pressure Point Massager is an aggressive physical massager
that actually kneads the tension out of muscles ... much like a
professional shiatsu masseur. The powerful motor drives two
counter-rotating "thumbs" that move in one-inch orbits --
releasing tension in the neck, back, legs and arms.
Pressure Point Massager A2623 $109
To order or receive a catalog, call (24 hours, 7 days) 1-800-345-3371 or
fax at 1-800-345-4021.
********
NOTE:
When I ordered the massager, the item number was different, and the price
was $179, not $109. When I received it, I glanced thru the newer catalog
enclosed with it to see anything was different from the first one. I was
QUITE annoyed to see a $70 difference in price. I called them about it,
and the cust rep said that they had switched manufacturers, although it
looks and works exactly the same. He told me to go ahead and return the
first one and order the cheaper one, using the price difference as a
reason for return. In fact, since the newer ones might take a while to
ship from the factory (I received this one in 3 days), he told me I could
use the one I already have until the new one arrives, then return the old
one. VERY reasonable people.
********
I have long-term neck, shoulder and back pain (if I were a building, I
would be described as "structurally unsound :-) ). I have stretches
and exercises to do that help, but the problem never really goes away.
If, for whatever reason, I do not exercise for a while (illness, not enough
time, lazy, etc.), the muscles become quite stiff and painful and, thus,
more prone to further strain. Even with exercise, I sometimes require
physical therapy to get back on track, which 1st requires a doctor visit
to get the prescription for p.t.
The tension in my neck, if not released, eventually causes a headache
(sometimes confused with a sinus headache) over my left eye. When my
physical therapist has massaged my neck, and the sub-occipital muscles
in particular (the 2 knobby areas near the base of the skull), the
headache usually eased within a day, although it hurts like hell to
while it is being massaged.
I ordered this device because it seemed to be exactly what I was wishing
someone would invent --a machine that would massage, NOT VIBRATE, my
neck and sub-occipital muscles like my physical therapist has done in
the past, that I could use by myself. No doctor visit or inconvenient
p.t. appts for a week later would be needed to use it. I could get up
in the middle of the night and use it, if necessary.
I have been using it for about a week or so now, and LOVE it. The base
unit is about a 14" x 9" rectangle, about 3-3/4" high, with handles on each
side, and it plugs into an average outlet. The two metal "thumbs" are about
1-1/2" in diameter and protrude about 2-1/2" above the base. The thumbs
are covered with a gray cloth that is non-removable. They are located more
toward one end, rather than centered (see figure below). They move in
either clockwise or counter-clockwise directions, depending on which side
of the switch is pushed, and are very quiet. It can be used from either
side. For instance, the thumbs can be positioned at the base of the neck
or the top of the neck, depending on which direction you approach it.
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For the neck/head, the user varies the amount of pressure used by (if
laying down) allowing all or part of the full weight of the head and/or
neck to rest on the thumbs. The handles can also be used if sitting or
standing, applying pressure with the arms/wrists. Since my wrists are
also impaired (I'm typing this over an extended period of time), and I
don't have someone living with me who can apply it, laying down works
well for me.
For my back, I sit in a high-backed kitchen chair, position the massager
behind me at whatever point I want massaged, and lean back lightly (or
not so lightly) against it. The pressure of leaning back holds it in place.
If I want to massage the entire spine, I simply move it down a few inches
whenever I feel like it. For my back, this machine is far superior to use
than the commonly used "home-made" massager of 2 tennis balls taped together
(with the balls, position (against a wall or door) them over the spine and
move the body up and down against them). The tennis balls are better than
nothing, but difficult to use for very long, especially if your quads are
not in good shape, and my long hair gets (painfully) in the way if I don't
pin it up first. As far as I'm concerned, the easier something like this
is to use, the more likely I'll use/do it. If there are multiple
considerations/hassles, I'm more likely to not bother with it.
Not only has this machine helped with my headaches, but my range of motion
for my neck and back are greatly increased. The first time I used it on my
neck/sub-occipital muscles, however, I overdid it and pressed too hard
against it, which resulted in a very tender, almost bruised area for a
few days. I laid off it for about 3 days and applied ice, which helped.
After that, I was more gradual about applying pressure. At this point,
the pain in the sub-occipital area is now minimal while being massaged.
I also learned to use VERY LIGHT pressure on my lower back, which is the
most vulnerable point for me.
It also eased some painful knots of tension between my shoulder blades,
although, again, it took a few days of massaging (just a few minutes at
a time) to really work it out.
I highly recommend this product if you have similar problems, although I
cannot vouch for its durability (it seems pretty sturdy), since I've had
it such a short time. I plan to use it not only to ease tension, but also
to loosen the muscls BEFORE exercising (and maybe after, too). I have
been ill recently and not able to exercise much for a few weeks, so this
was very timely for me.
This is the 1st product I've ordered from this company and only recently
became aware of it thru a co-worker. The catalog states they have been
in business since 1976. It contains quite a few health care products and,
while they appear to be more expensive than the average health care catalog
products, they also appear to be of much higher quality with more thought
put into what they actually do. Definitely a step above some other ones
I've seen such as "Dr. Leonards Health Care Catalog" or "Mature Wisdom".
I'm only 37, but have ended up on some geriatric-type mailing lists (no
big surprise here :-) ). I consider many of those products to be rip-offs,
particularly targeted toward the elderly, with dubious health benefits.
I apologize for the length of this, but it's the kind of info _I_ would
like to know before ordering something thru the mail.
Robin Coutellier
Northern Telecom, Mountain View, CA
INTERNET: robin@ntmtv.com
UUCP:portal!ntmtv!robin
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6567 | From: steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks)
Subject: Re: Limiting Govt (was Re: Employment (was Re: Why not concentrate...)
Summary: Feasibility considered
Organization: Free the Barbers, Inc.
Lines: 72
Nntp-Posting-Host: thor.isc-br.com
In article <16APR199317391664@rigel.tamu.edu> gmw0622@rigel.tamu.edu (Mr. Grinch) writes:
>In article <1993Apr16.124824.29405@isc-br.isc-br.com>, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes...
>
>>
>:On a case by case basis, the cost/benefit ratio of government regulation
>:is obviously worthwhile. The libertarian agenda, however, does not call
>:for this assessment. It assumes that the costs of regulation (of any
>:kind) always outweigh its benefits. This approach avoids all sorts of
>:difficult analysis, but it strikes many of the rest of us as dogmatic,
>:to say the least.
>>
>
>I assume you mean that analyzing the cost/benefit ratio of government
>regulation on a case by case basis is worthwhile. Let me suggest that
>this is not an option. Regulators regulate, it's what they do.
I'm not sure why you don't consider it an option. No one suggests that
such analysis should be left to "regulators." In fact, the "re-inventing
government" movement provides just such a cost/benefit approach to the
analysis of public spending. Libertarians would do well to learn more
about it.
>
> It might be possible to pass an amendment which would prevent
>any liscensing laws from being valid, assuming you could convince people that
>it would overall be a good idea. Eliminating the liscensing laws which
>serve no good purpose (the vast majority of them) while maintaining the
>worthwhile ones (assuming there are any) is not feasible.
Sorry, but it strikes me that it is the only "feasible" approach. What is
not feasible is a wholesale attack on all government regulation and
licensing that treats cutting hair and practicing medicine as equivalent
tasks.
>
>:I have no objection to an analysis of medical care, education,
>:national defense or local police that suggests a "free market" can provide
>:a more effective, efficient means of accomplishing social objectives
>:than is provided through "statist" approaches. With some notable
>:exceptions, however, I do not see such nitty-gritty, worthwhile
>:analysis being carried out by self-professed libertarians.
>:
>:jsh
>
>I note that the above examples tend to be among the few government areas
>likely to win some approval among libertarians anyway.
Actually, the only areas of public spending above that strike me as
generating substantial support among libertarians are police and defense.
(It is an interesting aside that as committed as libertarians claim to
be to a principle of non-coercion, the only areas of public spending
that they frequently support involve hiring people with guns....hmmm...)
>The most objectionable government expenditures are entitlements, which
>also are the biggest. Certain individuals will suggest that these should be
>considered defense on the grounds that they are a sort of Danegeld to
>would-be revolutionaries, but I personally don't feel we have much to fear
>from an alliance of geezers and unwed mothers. Maybe I've led too
>sheltered a life.
Perhaps you have. May I suggest that you consider that revolutionaries
frequently generate support by acting as protectors of "geezers,"
mothers and children. Governments that ignore such people on the grounds
that "we don't have much to fear" from them do so at their own peril.
jsh
>
>Mr. Grinch
--
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the bulls**t." - R. Hofferbert | Ma Bell: 509 838-8826
|
6568 | From: aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer)
Subject: Re: Why not give $1 billion to first year-long moon residents?
Organization: Evil Geniuses for a Better Tomorrow
Lines: 24
In article <1qve4kINNpas@sal-sun121.usc.edu> schaefer@sal-sun121.usc.edu (Peter Schaefer) writes:
>|> > Announce that a reward of $1 billion would go to the first corporation
>|> > who successfully keeps at least 1 person alive on the moon for a year.
>Oh gee, a billion dollars! That'd be just about enough to cover the cost of the
>feasability study! Happy, Happy, JOY! JOY!
Depends. If you assume the existance of a working SSTO like DC, on billion
$$ would be enough to put about a quarter million pounds of stuff on the
moon. If some of that mass went to send equipment to make LOX for the
transfer vehicle, you could send a lot more. Either way, its a lot
more than needed.
This prize isn't big enough to warrent developing a SSTO, but it is
enough to do it if the vehicle exists.
Allen
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6569 | From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: OB-GYN residency
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 28
In article <1993Apr12.231544.5990@cnsvax.uwec.edu> nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye) writes:
>
>I believe it is illegal for a residency to discriminate against FMGs. I
Is that true? I know some that won't even interview FMGs.
Most programs discriminate, in that given an FMG equally
qualified as an American they will take the American. What
rights do they actually have? Does it matter if they are
US citizens (most are not)? We have had good luck with FMGs
and bad luck. SOme of our very best residents have been FMGs.
Also, our very worst. As it turns out, the worst FMGs are often
US citizens that studied in off-shore medical schools. Of the
5 residents fired for incompetence in the 12 years I've been here
in my department, all have been FMGs. 3 were US citizens who studied
in Guadalajara, 1 was a US citizen but was trained in the Soviet Union,
and one was Philipina. Unfortunately, all are now practicing medicine
somewhere, 3 of them in Neurology after having been picked up by
other programs, 1 in psychiatry, and the other in emergency medicine.
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|
6570 | From: raney@teal.csn.org (Scott Raney)
Subject: Re: Hypercard for UNIX
Nntp-Posting-Host: teal.csn.org
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Lines: 35
queloz@bernina.ethz.ch (Ronald Queloz) writes:
>Hi netlanders,
>Does anybody know if there is something like Macintosh Hypercard for any UNIX
>platform?
There are several products you might investigate. If you've got
$20,000 per seat and high-end hardware, Gain Momentum might be a good
choice. It isn't compatible with HyperCard, but has a similar
architecture (and *way* more functionality). I don't have contact
information, but they were recently purchased by Sybase who shouldn't
be too hard to find.
If you're running News on SPARC, check out HyperLook
(hyperlook@turing.com). It uses Postscript as a scripting language
which is good if you need to do lots of display oriented scripting,
but not so good for non-programmers. It was $995, last I heard.
You might also look at our product MetaCard. We're alpha-testing
direct importing of HyperCard stacks (we've even made the test release
available for anonymous FTP), so we're obviously the closest in
functionality. MetaCard runs on most UNIX workstations and costs
$495. Email to info@metacard.com for more details.
Scott
>Thanks in advance
>Ron.
--
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* Scott Raney 303-447-3936 Remember: the better you look, *
* raney@metacard.com the more you'll see -- Lidia *
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6571 | From: dfclark@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov (clark dean f)
Subject: Re: Centris Cache & Bernoulli Box
Article-I.D.: snll-arp.519
Distribution: world
Organization: Sandia National Laboratories
Lines: 27
In article <1993Apr2.123619.548@physc1.byu.edu> goblec@physc1.byu.edu writes:
>I just tried running my Bernoulli Box off a Centris and the driver
>software only seems to work when the 040 cache is off. If it is
>on I get the message "This is not a Macintosh Disk - do you wish
>to initialize it."
>
>I have IOMEGA Driver 3.4.2. Is there a newer version that works
>with the 040's? Is there something I am doing wrong?
>
>Clark Goble
>goblec@theory.byu.edu
I Have Version 3.5.1 which I believe was needed for a 040 machine.
You should be able to get the newest version by calling their tech
support at 1-800-456-5522 or if you have a modem you can get the
driver from their BBS at 801-778-4400.
dean
--
Dean Clark
Internet dfclark@ca.sandia.gov
|
6572 | From: jtk@s1.gov (Jordin Kare)
Subject: Re: Inflatable Mile-Long Space Billboards (was Re: Vandalizing the sky.)
Organization: LLNL
Lines: 96
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: s1.gov
yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu (Brian Yamauchi) writes:
>enzo@research.canon.oz.au (Enzo Liguori) writes:
>>WHAT'S NEW (in my opinion), Friday, 16 April 1993 Washington, DC
>
>>Now, Space Marketing
>>is working with University of Colorado and Livermore engineers on
>>a plan to place a mile-long inflatable billboard in low-earth
>>orbit.
>
>This sounds like something Lowell Wood would think of. Does anyone
>know if he's involved?
No. The idea was suggested around here during discussions of possible
near-term commercial space activities. One of the folks involved in those
discussions, a
spacecraft engineer named Preston Carter, passed the suggestion on to
some entreprenurial types, and Mike Lawson is apparently going ahead with
it. Preston is now at LLNL, and is working with Space Marketing on
the sensors that might be carried.
>
>>NASA would provide contractual launch services. However,
>>since NASA bases its charge on seriously flawed cost estimates
>>(WN 26 Mar 93) the taxpayers would bear most of the expense.
Actually, that sounds unlikely. I don't know what the launch vehicle
would be, but I would expect it to go on a commercial launcher --
certainly not on the Shuttle -- and the fraction of the cost paid to NASA
for, e.g., launch support would probably
cover NASA's incremental costs pretty well.
>>This
>>may look like environmental vandalism, but Mike Lawson, CEO of
>>Space Marketing, told us yesterday that the real purpose of the
>>project is to help the environment! The platform will carry ozone
>>monitors he explained--advertising is just to help defray costs.
>
>This may be the purpose for the University of Colorado people. My
>guess is that the purpose for the Livermore people is to learn how to
>build large, inflatable space structures.
No, as noted, LLNL is involved in lightweight sensor design, per
Clementine and related programs. I'm sure folks around here would like to
see a demonstration of a modern inflatable structure, but after all,
the U.S. did the Echo satellites long ago, and an advertising structure
would not be much closer to an inflatable space station than Echo was
(or a parade balloon, for that matter).
>
>>..........
>>What do you think of this revolting and hideous attempt to vandalize
>>the night sky? It is not even April 1 anymore.
While I happen to personally dislike the idea, mostly because I've got
a background in astronomy, it's hardly vandalism -- it would be a short-lived
intrusion on the night sky, doing no permanent damage and actually hurting
only a small subset of astronomers. On the other hand, it would certainly
draw attention to space.
>
>If this is true, I think it's a great idea.
>
>Learning how to build structures in space in an essential
>step towards space development...
Which, unfortunately, this is not likely to contribute much to.
>If such a project also monitors ozone depletion and demonstrates
>creative use of (partial) private sector funding in the process -- so
>much the better.
>
>>Is NASA really supporting this junk?
As far as I know, it's a purely commercial venture.
>
>And does anyone have any more details other than what was in the WN
>news blip? How serious is this project? Is this just in the "wild
>idea" stage or does it have real funding?
I gather it is being very seriously discussed with possible advertisers.
Commercial projects, however, generally don't get "funding" -- they
get "customers" -- whether it will have customers remains to be seen.
>
>>Are protesting groups being organized in the States?
>
>Not yet. Though, if this project goes through, I suppose The Return
>of Jeremy Rifkin is inevitable...
Nahh. He's too busy watching for mutant bacteria to notice anything in
the sky :-)
>
>Brian Yamauchi Case Western Reserve University
>yamauchi@alpha.ces.cwru.edu Department of Computer Engineering and Science
Jordin Kare jtk@s1.gov Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
[These are my personal views only and do not represent official statements
or positions of LLNL, the University of California, or the U.S. DOE.]
|
6573 | From: djb@silverton.berkeley.edu (D. J. Bernstein)
Subject: Re: Off the shelf cheap DES keyseach machine
Organization: IR
Lines: 12
In article <1993Apr21.132318.16981@ulysses.att.com> smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:
> And key size is one of the things that can be
> verified externally.
Gee. Say they feed the 80-bit key through Snefru-8 and take the first 60
bits of the result, then use those 60 bits as the real key. How do you
figure out that each key is one of 2^20 ``equal'' keys? You can try a
birthday attack, but if the key can be changed only once a second then
you will need several lifetimes to get reliable statistics. Somehow I
don't think you could catch the NSA at this sort of skulduggery.
---Dan
|
6574 | From: rscharfy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ryan C Scharfy)
Subject: Re: Good Neighbor Political Hypocrisy Test
Nntp-Posting-Host: magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Lines: 27
In article <stevethC5LI9y.C1v@netcom.com> steveth@netcom.com (Steve Thomas) wri
tes:
>In article <1993Apr16.171354.3127@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rscharfy@magnus.a
cs.ohio-state.edu (Ryan C Scharfy) writes:
>>
>>However, legalizing it and just sticking some drugs in gas stations to be
>>bought like cigarettes is just plain silly.
>
>I don't find this silly at all. I find it silly (black humor) that we're
>spending billions of dollars and risking the lives and freedoms of every
>American to save a bunch of by-choice druggies...
>
>Could you please tell us WHY you find this silly. That's, WHY, letters
>"W", "H" and "Y", rather than arguments like "oh, _everbody_ thinks such and
>such is true".
First, the only drug that could possibly be put in drug stations are marijuana
or its derivitives. Every other drug that I can think of can kill you if you
take to much. (By the very nature of these drugs, your decision making skills
aren't up to par. That is how it differs from asprin, flinstone vitamins, etc.
We don't even allow penicilin to be sold over the counter.)
Second, we already have a big enough drunk driving and alchoholic problem in
this country. If marijuana were legal, undoubtedly more people would use it,
and that IS a problem. People use it, get stupid, and hurt other people.
Ryan
|
6575 | From: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
Subject: re: I hate to make a decision !
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Lines: 30
In article <1993Apr26.030204.27417%gtonwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw> gtonwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw (Tony G. Wu) writes:
>
>Hi.
>
> Well, I really hate to make a decision, but recently, I have to choose
> whether stacker 3.0 or dos 6.0 with double space for my poor HD.
> I am using windwos 3.1 and I hope what I choose will live with windows.
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
>
>
>--
>===================== ( Forever 23, Michael Jordan.) =====================
> Tony G. Wu gtonwu@uz.nthu.edu.tw
> CAE/Rheology Lab. NTHU. tony@che.nthu.edu.tw
>
Stacker achieves better compression ratio than DOS6, yet the
latter comes with virus detection, memory manager, and multiple
booting. Each of them are not so good as the NAV, QEMM or NDOS
in my opinion, but with a package of only $45, it's nice if
haven't yet installed all of those stuffs.
Both certainly work with Win31.
Rensheng Horng
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6576 | From: wats@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Bruce Watson)
Subject: Re: Boom! Whoosh......
Organization: Alpha Science Computer Network, Denver, Co.
Lines: 19
In article <1r6mcgINNe87@gap.caltech.edu+ kwp@wag.caltech.edu (Kevin W. Plaxco) writes:
+In article <37147@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM+ wats@scicom.AlphaCDC.COM (Bruce Watson) writes:
+++
++Once inflated the substance was no longer
++needed since there is nothing to cause the balloon to collapse.
++This inflatable structure could suffer multiple holes with no
++disastrous deflation.
+
+preasure (and the internal preasure that was needed to maintain
+a spherical shape against this resistance) caused them to
+catastrophically deflated. The large silvered shards
+
+The billboard should pop like a dime store balloon.
No, you're wrong about this. Give me some time to get my references.
--
Bruce Watson (wats@scicom.alphaCDC.COM)
|
6577 | From: kshus@schunix.uucp (Christopher Shustakg)
Subject: Where can I find baseball statistics ??
Organization: SCHUNIX Public Access Unix for Worcester County, MA, USA
Lines: 7
I am interested in uncovering statistics on Boston Red Sox players from
March 1992 - present. I want to look at changes in batting average, hits,
multi-hit games, runs, stolen bases, and on base % during
every game. Where can
I find this information? Do any sports magazines log this info or do I
have to go directly to the ball club?
Thanks for the info. Kip
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6578 | From: clj@ksr.com (Chris Jones)
Subject: Re: Keeping Spacecraft on after Funding Cuts.
Reply-To: clj@ksr.com (Chris Jones)
Organization: Kendall Square Research Corp
Lines: 13
In-reply-to: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
In article <1r6aqr$dnv@access.digex.net>, prb@access (Pat) writes:
>Voyager has the unusual luck to be on a stable trajectory out of the
>solar system. All it's doing is collecting fields data, and routinely
>squirting it down. One of the mariners is also in stable
>solar orbit, and still providing similiar solar data.
There are no Mariner craft from which we are still receiving data. I believe
you are referring to one or more of Pioneers 6 through 9 (launched from
December 1965 through November 1968), which were put into solar orbits to study
interplanetary space. I recall reading that at least one of them was still
functioning 25 years after launch.
--
Chris Jones clj@ksr.com
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6579 | From: lex@optimla.aimla.com (Lex van Sonderen)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM multisession
Nntp-Posting-Host: emerald
Organization: Philips Interactive Media of America
Lines: 19
In article <1pgifo$efb@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu writes:
>As I said "I know a multisession CD-ROM is necessary if you do more photos..."
>BUT what if it is just a writable CD-ROM drive and do a second "session"
>do you need one for that too?
If you write a second time to a CD you need to have multi-session capability to
read the second session. Whether it is photos or just data or whatever.
Here is a simplified way of looking at it:
The first session has the directory structure burned at some tracks. The
second session has a newer directory structure, but the first directory still
exists, because you cannot change, only add. So if you put that in a 'normal'
drive and it will only look to the first directory and think it has found all
data. Multisession kindof means that the drive will look for the last
directory written to the disc, older systems look only for 'the' directory, not
taking multiple directories into account.
Lex van Sonderen
Philips Interactive Media
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6580 | From: rwf2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ROBERT WILLIAM FUSI)
Subject: Re: New Alarm Proposal
Organization: Lehigh University
Lines: 22
In article <1993Apr14.190652.19777@slcs.slb.com>, dcd@se.houston.geoquest.slb.co
m (Dan Day) writes:
>In article <1qeee6$o7s@armory.centerline.com> jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) w
rites:
>>
>>An audible alarm is just an annoyance -- to either a professional or
>>amateur. NOBODY LISTENS TO AUDIBLE ALARMS ANYMORE. The thieves know
>
>This is why I think there ought to be a heavy fine on false alarms.
>I'm really honked off about the fact that due to all the
>cars with cruddy alarms crying "wolf", no one will pay any attention
>to my car if its alarm ever goes off for real.
>
> Depends on your area, in the city, nobody thinks about it...but at a mall or
something near the suburbs, people do at least glance over. Remember, an
alarm is only a deterent, not a prevention. If a thief sees two cars he
"likes", one has an alarm and the other doesn't, he's obviously going to skip
the alarmed car and avoid the hassle. There is a way around every alarm, but
at least you've got SOMETHING on your side.....
Rob Fusi
rwf2@lehigh.edu
--
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6581 | From: tobias@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Tobias)
Subject: Re: Most bang for between $13,000 and $16,000
Reply-To: tobias@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Tobias)
Distribution: na
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD
Lines: 14
In rec.autos, CPKJP@vm.cc.latech.edu (Kevin Parker) writes:
> I'd like to get some feedback on a car with most bang for the buck in the
>$13000 to 16,000 price range. I'm looking for a car with enough civility to be
>driven every day, or even on long trips, but when I hit the gas, I want to feel
>some acceleration. Handling is important also, as are reliability and pretty
>low maintenance costs. A stylish appearance is nice, but I don't want a car
>that is all show and not much go. Even though many of the imports are fast, I
>don't really want a turbo, and I never have cared for the song sung by a four
>clyinder. I'd prefer a v6 or v8 for the engine. If you have any suggestions,
>Kevin Parker
There's only one car that really fits your needs. It's spelled:
5.0 LITER MUSTANG
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6582 | From: jmeritt@mental.mitre.org
Subject: By the sword...
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Deuteronmy 20:13
And when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite
every male thereof with the edge of the sword
Joshua 6:21
And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, bith man and women,
young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
Joshua 10:32
And the Lord delivered Lachish into the hand of Israel, which took it on the
second day, and smote it with the edge of the sword, and all the souls that
were therein, according to all that he had done to Libnah
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6583 | From: kaufman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Marc T. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: TIFF: philosophical significance of 42
Reply-To: kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
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joachim@kih.no (joachim lous) writes:
>ulrich@galki.toppoint.de wrote:
-> According to the TIFF 5.0 Specification, the TIFF "version number"
-> (bytes 2-3) 42 has been chosen for its "deep philosophical
-> significance".
-> Last week, I read the Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy, and rotfl the
-> second time. (After millions of years of calculation, the second-best
-> computer of all time reveals that 42 is the answer to the question
-> about life, the universe and everything)
-> Is this actually how they picked the number 42?
>Yes.
-> Does anyone have any other suggestions where the 42 came from?
At this moment the King, who had been for some time busily writing in
his note-book, called out "Silence!" and read out from his book
"Rule Forty-two. All persons more than a mile high to leave the court."
Everybody looked at Alice.
"I'm not a mile high," said Alice.
"You are," said the King.
"Nearly two miles high," added the queen.
"Well, I sha'n't go, at any rate," said Alice; "besides, that's not
a regular rule: you invented it just now."
"It's the oldest rule in the book," said the King.
"Then it ought to be Number One," said Alice.
--
Marc Kaufman (kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU)
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6584 | From: keys@starchild.ncsl.nist.gov (Lawrence B. Keys)
Subject: Re: Dumbest automotive concepts of all time
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology
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In article <34544@oasys.dt.navy.mil> glouie@oasys.dt.navy.mil (George Louie) writes:
>In rec.autos, nancy@hayduke (Nancy Feagans) writes:
>>Ashtrays and cigarette lighters. These should be an *option*.
>
>Why make it an option. You can use the ashtray to store coins and other
>small things which come in handy. Use the cigarette lighter as an electrical
>outlet for all types of handy gadgets (CD players, vacuum cleaners,
>flashlights, etc.) I don't want to pay extra for these things and if
>you don't use them, they don't hurt you.
I use the ashtray to keep change and other items in. I converted the
cigarette lighter into a volume control knob for my in trunk subwoofer!
>
>
>George
>>--
.
/
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- 1990 2.0 16v -
---------------- FAHRVERGNUGEN FOREVER! --------------------
The fact that I need to explain it to you indicates
that you probably wouldn't understand anyway!
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6585 | From: npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar)
Subject: Re: Fortune-guzzler barred from bars!
Nntp-Posting-Host: bmdhh299
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
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David Karr, on the Tue, 20 Apr 1993 01:01:01 GMT wibbled:
: In article <C5qtvL.M73@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Russell.P.Hughes@dartmouth.edu (Knicker Twister) writes:
: >In article <1993Apr19.141959.4057@bnr.ca>
: >npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar) writes:
: >
: >> With regards to the pub brawl, he might have a history of such things.
: >> Just because he was a biker doesn't make him out to be a reasonable
: >> person. Even the DoD might object to him joining, who knows?
: If he had a history of such things, why was it not mentioned in the
: article, and why did they present the irrelevant detail of where he
: got his drinking money from?
: I can't say exactly who is at fault here, but from where I sit is
: looks like we're seeing the results either of the law going way out
: of hand or of shoddy journalism.
: If the law wants to attach strings to how you spend a settlement, they
: should put the money in trust. They don't, so I would assume it's
: perfectly legitimate to drink it away, though I wouldn't spend it that
: way myself.
: -- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
We heard about this from a newspaper article. Journalists and editors
always pick out the most interesting and sensational "facts" for our
delectation. As the editor of the Sun once said: "We never let the
facts get in the way of a good story". You must have noticed how
motorcyclists get treated by the press. They thrive on hysteria,
ignorance, sensationalism and one-upmanship. Unfortunately there's
not enough salt to keep taking a pinch of.
--
Nick (the Cynical Old Biker) DoD 1069 Concise Oxford Leaky New Gearbox
M'Lud.
Nick Pettefar, Contractor@Large. /~~~\ "Teneo tuus intervallum"
Cuurrently incarcerated at BNR, {-O^O-} npet@bnr.ca '86 BMW K100RS "Kay"
Maidenhead, The United Kingdom. \ o / Pres. PBWASOH(UK), BS 0002
(-)
"Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for you. It's time to get up
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6586 | Subject: Re: Vandalizing the sky.
From: thacker@rhea.arc.ab.ca
Organization: Alberta Research Council
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In article <C5t05K.DB6@research.canon.oz.au>, enzo@research.canon.oz.au (Enzo Liguori) writes:
<<<most of message deleted>>>
> What about light pollution in observations? (I read somewhere else that
> it might even be visible during the day, leave alone at night).
> Really, really depressed.
>
> Enzo
No need to be depressed about this one. Lights aren't on during the day
so there shouldn't be any daytime light pollution.
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6587 | From: cal2d@csissun11.ee.Virginia.EDU (Craig Allen Lorie)
Subject: Re: Devils and Islanders tiebreaker????
Organization: University of Virginia
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According to the hockey gurus over at ESPN, should the Islanders win tonite
the two teams will have the same record, but the Devils will be playing the
Penguins. This is because the Islanders have won the season series against
the Devils. I think the rules for deciding a tie breaker include:
1. season series
2. goals against
3. goals for
in this order (correct me if I'm wrong). Anyone have anything to add?
Craig
Go Islanders!
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6588 | From: jon@umcc.umcc.umich.edu (Jon Zeeff)
Subject: S3 video card at different address
Organization: UMCC, Ann Arbor, MI
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I'd like to add a second S3 based video card to my system. Does anyone
know of a company that sells a card that can coexist with another one?
All I really need is color text on one monitor and fast color graphics
on the other.
Probably just a configurable address would do it.
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6589 | From: king@ctron.com (John E. King)
Subject: Re: Eternity of Hell (was Re: Hell)
Organization: Cabletron Systems Inc.
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db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler) writes:
>And we also know that it is impossible to destroy the Soul.
Hmmm. Here's food for thought: " ...but rather be in fear of him
who can destroy both soul and body in gehenna." Math 10:28
Jack
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6590 | From: andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson)
Subject: **Sorry folks** (read this)
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In article <1993Apr21.001707.9999@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson) writes:
[...]
>
>(the date I have for this is 1-26-93)
>
>note Clinton's statements about encryption in the 3rd paragraph.. I guess
>this statement doesen't contradict what you said, though.
>
>--- cut here ---
>
> WASHINGTON (UPI) -- The War on Drugs is about to get a fresh
>start, President Clinton told delegates to the National Federation
>of Police Commisioners convention in Washington.
> In the first speech on the drug issue since his innaugural,
>Clinton said that his planned escalation of the Drug War ``would make
>everything so far seem so half-hearted that for all practical
[...]
I just found out from my source that this article was a joke. Heh heh..
It seemed pretty damn convincing to me from the start -- I just didn't
notice the smiley at the end of the article, and there were a few other
hints which I should of caught.
Anyway -- I guess this 'joke' did turn out to resemble Clinton's true
feelings at least to some extent.
Sorry about that...
-marc
andersom@spot.colorado.edu
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6591 | From: balog@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Eric J Balog)
Subject: A: DRIVE WON'T BOOT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
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Hi!
I recently switched my 3.5" drive to A:. The problem is, while I can read and
write to both the new A: and B: correctly, I can't boot from a floppy in A:.
I've checked the CMOS settings; it is set for Floppy Seek at Boot and Boot
Order A:,C:.
Once, I had a floppy that did not have the systems files on it in A:. I got a
message telling me to put a disk systems disk in the drive. It didn't work.
When I do have a systems disk in the A: drive, this is what happens:
1) Power-on and Memory Test;
2) A: light comes on
3) B: light comes on, followed by a short beep;
4) HD light comes on for an instant;
5) B: light comes on again, then nothing happens
The light goes off, there is no disk activity of any kind, and the screen
blanks. I can't even use ctrl-alt-del.
Any suggestions.
Thanks in advance.
Eric Balog
balog@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
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6592 | From: cab@col.hp.com (Chris Best)
Subject: Re: Food Dehydrators
Organization: your service
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> Does anybody out there have one of those food dehydrators I've been seeing
> all over late-night TV recently? I was wondering if they use forced air, heat,
> or both. If there's heat involved, anybody know what temperature they run at?
> My wife would like one and I'm not inclined to pay >$100.00 for a box, a fan
> and a heater. Seems to me you should be able to throw a dehydrator together
> for just a few bucks. Heck, the technology is only what? 1,000 years old?
----------
Yeah, but 1000 years ago, you couldn't buy it from a guy with sprayed-on hair!
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6593 | From: jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS)
Subject: Re: Cultural Enquiries
Article-I.D.: ncsu.1993Apr5.220413.24002
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
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In article <C50uGG.9As@cmptrc.lonestar.org> irwin@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Irwin Arnstein) writes:
>In article <1phuse$5u1@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>>In article 28712@aber.ac.uk, azw@aber.ac.uk (Andy Woodward) writes:
>>>Two questions that fascinate me:-
>>
>>Check you local blue light special for a sale on lives...
>>
>>>1) Why are rednecks called rednecks?
>>
>>The origin of the slang is probably a reference to a sunburned neck,
>>often obtained while performing honest work outdoors. The neck is
>>specified to distinguish these people, whose shirt-protected chest and
>>back are pale, from the elitist wealthy, who, in their idiotic quest
>>for darker skin pigmentation as a badge of leisure time, overdo it and
>>get full-body sunburns.
>>
>
>More like those who use their backs instead of their minds to make
>their living who are usually ignorant and intolerant of anything outside
>of their group or level of understanding.
>--
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"Tuba" (Irwin) "I honk therefore I am" CompuTrac-Richardson,Tx
>irwin@cmptrc.lonestar.org DoD #0826 (R75/6)
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
That sounds like an awfully closed minded, intolerant attitude.
1/2 :')
I'm not a redneck but . . . try a walk in their shoes first. Stereotypes
are usually of very limited value. I've seen as many ignorant
self-righteous "open minded" new age lovers of the great planet Earth
as I have ignorant "red necks". I don't see a correlation. I don't
believe that the "redneck" culture, if you can call it that, is
necessarily inferior or superior to any other.
I gotta have a beer, I'm making too much sense. Next thing you know,
I'll be preaching tolerance . . .. and I'm a conservative.
Jack Waters II
DoD#1919
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ I don't fear the thief in the night. Its the one that comes in the ~
~ afternoon, when I'm still asleep, that I worry about. ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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6594 | From: schneier@chinet.chi.il.us (Bruce Schneier)
Subject: Re: An Open Letter to Mr. Clinton
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
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In article <strnlghtC5M2Cv.8Hx@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>
>Here's a simple way to convert the Clipper proposal to an unexceptionable
>one: Make it voluntary.
>
>That is--you get high quality secure NSA classified technology if you agree
>to escrow your key. Otherwise you are on your own.
>
As long as "you are on your own" means that you can use your own encryption,
I'm sold.
Bruce
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6595 | From: saeid@ug.cs.dal.ca (Saeid 'the last frontier')
Subject: Sending a Null character across Ethernet
Nntp-Posting-Host: ug.cs.dal.ca
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
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I have a question regarding sending a NULL character across ethernet
connection. The actual problem is that emacs (Unix editior) needs
the NULL character for setting a mark and unfortunately we don't know
how to sent that from IBM PCs across ethernet. I am wondering if anyboy
knows the keyboard combination for sending the NULL character.
BTW control,shift 2 which Ctrl @ does not work.
Thanks
Saeid
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6596 | From: Christopher.S.Weinberger@williams.edu (Gib)
Subject: Re: Divine providence vs. Murphy's Law
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
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In article <Apr.19.05.13.28.1993.29224@athos.rutgers.edu> rolfe@junior.dsu.edu (Tim Rolfe) writes:
>Romans 8:28 (RSV) We know that in everything God works for good with those
>who love him, who are called according to his purpose.
>Murphy's Law: If anything can go wrong, it will.
>We are all quite familiar with the amplifications and commentary on
>Murphy's Law. But how do we harmonize that with Romans 8:28? For that
>matter, how appropriate is humor contradicted by Scripture?
Both Christians and non-Christians laugh at this quote because
it exaggerates something we all feel, but know is not true. Us
Christians just KNOW that a little better! :)
In God we trust!
-Christopher
email @ 96csw@williams.edu
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6597 | From: kmr4@po.CWRU.edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Subject: Re: The Inimitable Rushdie
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
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In article <115686@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
>No, I say religious law applies to those who are categorized as
>belonging to the religion when event being judged applies. This
Who does the categorizing?
---
" I'd Cheat on Hillary Too."
John Laws
Local GOP Reprehensitive
Extolling "Traditional Family Values."
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6598 | From: revdak@netcom.com (D. Andrew Kille)
Subject: Re: Maybe?????
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
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: [I have some qualms about postings like this. You might want to
: engage in a bit more conversation with Joel before deluging
: someone who doesn't expect it with cards. --clh]
I'd suggest that more than _some_ qualms are in order. Without knowing
anything about the situation, it is impossible to evaluate the
appropriateness of writing. Some folks will check, others with more
zeal than time may not.
IMHO, requests of this nature should be made only for oneself or for someone
who knows and approves of the idea. Otherwise, it is intrusive and
disrespectful of the individual.
revdak@netcom.com
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6599 | From: news@cbnewsk.att.com
Subject: Re: Bible Unsuitable for New Christians
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs
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True.
Also read 2 Peter 3:16
Peter warns that the scriptures are often hard to understand by those who
are not learned on the subject.
Joe Moore
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