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From: angel@Foghorn_Leghorn.coe.northeastern.edu (Kirill Shklovsky) Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more. Organization: Northeastern University Distribution: na Lines: 36 In article <1993Apr21.204036.13723@rick.dgbt.doc.ca> jhan@debra.dgbt.doc.ca (Jerry Han) writes: >As one of the happily sleeping people, I would just like to ask this-> >aren't people just slightly overreacting to this? Or are we all of a >sudden going to draw parallels to Nazi Germany and Communist Russia? > >The point of the matter is that; yes this is a serious problem. But it is >not the end of the world. Guess what? We're doing something now you >can't do in a Communist country or Nazi Germany. We're complaining about >it, (or rather, you're complaining about it) and nobody is shooting at us. > >(Or, rather, if they're shooting at me, they have real bad aim. (:-) ) > >GUESS WHAT PEOPLE? You live in one of the few countries in the world >where a person can complain without getting shot at. > >People are always complaining that somebody did this wrong, or somebody >did that wrong, or whatever. Sit down and figure out two things: > >1) What have they done right? >2) How much worse can it get? > >And you'll find that you and I, are pretty damn lucky. > >So let's talk about it, get some action going, decide what's going on. >But let's not overreact! > Us having the liberties to talk about this doesn't make the problem go away. It doesn't make it right. Rather the opposite, if we do not do anything about it, you can bet it's going to get worse. * Angel@foghorn_leghorn.coe.northeastern.edu * * * * BTW: These are my opinions, and not that of any other entity - * * * * * * ------------------------------------------------------------* * * * My god, its full of stars! - Dave * I don't know about you, but we've got company! - Epidemic
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From: thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) Subject: Re: Kyle K. on Rodney King Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago Distribution: usa Lines: 31 In article <C5pEAy.M15@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kkopp@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (koppenhoefer kyle cramm) writes: >thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes: >>In article <C5Lp0y.FDK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kkopp@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (koppenhoefer kyle cramm) writes: >>>How about the fact that you have a bunch of cops putting their lives on >>>the line day in and day out who are afraid as hell of a large black guy that >> ^^^^^ >>>took a large amount of punishment and refused submit? >>> >>I'm curious why you think that particular adjective is important. > > Black is a descriptive adjective that describes Mr. King. From many >of the newspaper, radio, and tv news reports I have seen, this adjective >is commonly in front of his name. I have NEVER seen anyone complain about >the use of this adjective when used in a benign manner. I did not say that >Mr. King was a no good black! I do not know Mr. King and would not make this >ascertian without some evidence to this effect. I used it PURELY as a >descriptive adjective in the same manner than many ( most ) news people have >used it in the past. No one is questioning whether Mr. King is black. The question arises whether King's race should make police officers "afraid as hell." Your statement seems to imply that cops should have a different standard for large black guys than for just large guys in general. That two posts later you don't understand why anyone pointed out your use of the adjective is almost as informative as your original use. -- ted frank | thf2@kimbark.uchicago.edu | I'm sorry, the card says "Moops." the u of c law school | standard disclaimers |
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From: "James J. Murawski" <jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: Don Cherry - Coach's Corner summary - April 19, 1993 Organization: Administrative Computing & Info Services, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: po2.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <allan.735284991@swanlake> On 20-Apr-93 in Don Cherry - Coach's Corner.. user Allan Sullivan@cs.UAlber writes: >Next, a clip was shown from an earlier episode, in which Don was >proclaiming Doug Gilmour to be the best player, not only in >the NHL, but in the world. What about players like Lemieux? >Don said that Gilmour was the best PLAYER, not "Designated point getter". >Its not like baseball, where you have a "designatted hitter" who >can score runs but can't play defense. Gilmour is a good two way player. This clip was shown on local news in Pittsburgh last night (KDKA), complete with animated sarcasm by the sportscaster. It's the second time Cherry has been shown on local Pittsburgh news in the last couple of weeks. Both times he was blasting Lemieux. ==================================================================== Jim Murawski Sr. Software Engineer (412) 268-2650 [office] Administrative Computing and (412) 268-6868 [fax] Information Services jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu Carnegie Mellon University Office: UCC 155 4910 Forbes Avenue Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890 "Le Mieux! Le Magnifique! Soixante Six! Claude...NON!" There are 1371 days until Clinton (Clinocchio) leaves office (1370 too many).
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From: coburnn@spot.Colorado.EDU (Nicholas S. Coburn) Subject: Re: Shipping a bike Nntp-Posting-Host: spot.colorado.edu Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 31 In article <1qkhrm$7go@agate.berkeley.edu> manish@uclink.berkeley.edu (Manish Vij) writes: > >Can someone recommend how to ship a motorcycle from San Francisco >to Seattle? And how much might it cost? > >I remember a thread on shipping. If someone saved the instructions >on bike prep, please post 'em again, or email. > >Thanks, > >Manish Step 1) Join the AMA (American Motorcycling Association). Call 1-800-AMA-JOIN. Step 2) After you become a member, they will ship your bike, UNCRATED to just about anywhere across the fruited plain for a few hundred bucks. I have used this service and have been continually pleased. They usually only take a few days for the whole thing, and you do not have to prepare the bike in any way (other than draining the gas). Not to mention that it is about 25% of the normal shipping costs (by the time you crate a bike and ship it with another company, you can pay around $1000) ________________________________________________________________________ Nick Coburn DoD#6425 AMA#679817 '88CBR1000 '89CBR600 coburnn@spot.colorado.edu ________________________________________________________________________
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From: thinman@netcom.com (Technically Sweet) Subject: Re: Surface intersections Organization: International Foundation for Internal Freedom Lines: 19 sp1marse@lina (Marco Seirio) writes: >I have a problem with intersections between two surfaces. >Does anybody have a easy to understand algorithm for that or maybe >even C source?? > Marco Seirio - In real life sp1marse@caligula.his.s You also have a severe problem with news headers. FTP to cs.purdue.edu:pub/vanecek and pull proxima.tar.Z and proxima.ps.Z. Tres spif. -- Lance Norskog thinman@netcom.com Data is not information is not knowledge is not wisdom.
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From: schwarze@starbase1.caltech.edu (Erich Schwarz) Subject: Re: Top Ten Reasons Hillary and Chealsea Don't Like Men in Uniform Organization: CalTech, Div. of Biology Lines: 20 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: anise.bio.caltech.edu In article <C4vxvK.Bxr@newsserver.technet.sg>, ipser@solomon.technet.sg (Ed Ipser) wrote: > Top Ten Reasons Hillary and Chealsea Don't Like Men in Uniform > ^^^^^^^^ > [...] > > 6. They keep saluting and stuff. Its embarassing. > ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^ > [...] > Copyright (c) Edward A. Ipser, Jr., 1993 Ed: Before you ridicule the intelligence of other people, LEARN TO SPELL. Your typographical errors are, indeed, "embarassing" to those of us who read alt.politics.libertarian for its allegedly superior ideas and writing. --Erich Schwarz / schwarze@starbase1.caltech.edu
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From: sandy@nmr1.pt.cyanamid.COM (Sandy Silverman) Subject: Re: Barbecued foods and health risk In-Reply-To: rousseaua@immunex.com's message of 19 Apr 93 13:02:13 PST Nntp-Posting-Host: nmr1.pt.cyanamid.com Organization: American Cyanamid Company <1quq1m$e8j@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> <1993Apr19.130213.69@immunex.com> Lines: 8 Heat shock proteins are those whose expression is induced in response to elevated temperature. Some are also made when organisms are subjected to other stress conditions, e.g. high salt. They have no obvious connection to what happens when you burn proteins. -- Sanford Silverman >Opinions expressed here are my own< American Cyanamid sandy@pt.cyanamid.com, silvermans@pt.cyanamid.com "Yeast is Best"
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From: doyle@cs.umass.edu (Jim Doyle) Subject: UMass Big East hockey underway Organization: CS Dept., Umass-Amherst Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: gaia.cs.umass.edu Summary: UMass hires Head Coach for first season since 1979 Keywords: UMass Minutemen Mallen X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9] The mission to revive hockey at UMass is now underway. At the 4 PM Saturday afternoon press conference held at the new Mullins Center Arena - former Boston College Asst. Coach Joe Mallen was awarded the 4 year, $85,000/year contract as Head Coach for the UMass Minutemen. Mallen was the third viable pick for the position, right behind Jeff Jackson (Lake Superior) and second behind Shawn Walsh (UMaine). Previous offers for the position were rumored to have been offered to the asst. coaches of Brown, RPI and the head coach of the AHL Springfield Indians. UMass hockey was disbanded in 1979 due to financial constraints that had undermined the team's position over a period of years. In late November of last year, the $52 million Mullins Sports Center was opened following its one year construction deadline. The Minutemen are slated to play an independent Div II/Div III schedule this upcoming winter before officially entering Hockey East for the Winter 1994 season. Mallen has yet to comment on player recruitment strategies or potential team candidates for the Minutemen - it is expected that he will leverage off his inside contacts within New England, the Bay State and Europe to draw on competitive, top ice players for the University. UMass has slated 18 hockey scholarships for the upcoming Fall semester ; expect to hear more from me as I hear more from my sources. .... J.D. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Jim Doyle Univ. of Massachusetts - Dept. of Computer Science Staff Programmer PUMA/DCC/CNET email: doyle@gaia.cs.umass.edu office: Lederle GRC Room A203 Tel. 413-545-3179 home : 91 Blackberry Ln Tel. 413-549-1409 Amherst,MA 01002-1516
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From: luf4695@cup.edu Subject: Re: Gateway UART chip? Distribution: usa Organization: California University of Pennsylvania, California, PA Lines: 27 In article <spiroC4Bssw.Drq@netcom.com>, spiro@netcom.com (Philip N. Spiro) writes: > George A. Theall (theall@gdalsrv.sas.upenn.edu) wrote: > : In article <dickyjC4B7H8.BMt@netcom.com> dickyj@netcom.com (Dicky Johan) writes: > : >It seems that there are using the 16450 UART chip in the > : >machine. Is that the same as the 16550 UART chip, which has a 16-bytes > : >buffer? > > : No, it's not. According to the sales critter I spoke with last week, > : though, Gateway does use socketed chips. You should be able to find the > : 16550AFN for about $15 and upgrade the chip yourself. Minor nuisance. > > For whatever it's worth, my GW salesman said that their 16450 would do > 14.4kbps and was soldered to the board. > > Will someone with a recent GW pls settle this by inspection! > -- > Phil > ------------------------------------------- > Phil Spiro spiro@netcom.com 415-964-6647 MINE has a 16450 sodered right on the card. Why would you need the 16550 anyway? From what I've heard, when you're multitasking, its FIFO buffer keeps you from loosing data. Is this right? Bryan Luff Math & Comp. Sci. Cal. U. of PA
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Subject: 20" Color TV San Diego From: louis@netlink.cts.com (Louis Cornelio) Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA Lines: 23 ========== 20" COLOR TV ============= San Diego Mesa College Area Emerson M20R w/ "high-tech" square screen BEST PRICE YOU features: timer/sleep feature for auto- shut on/off CAN FIND FOR A fully cable ready w/ all coaxial video audio jacks 20-INCH COLOR TV MTS (multichannel sound jack) for processing stereo or bilingual channels $ 170.00 FIRM 19 key remote includes review, recall, sleep features ============================================== tel 619-278-8779 please reply to lcornel@eis.calstate.edu for fastest response! -Louis -- //////////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ | Louis Cornelio GEnie:L.Cornelio "The better the technology, | | louis@netlink.cts.com the less efficient the human use of it." | \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\//////////////////////////////////////
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From: thinman@netcom.com (Technically Sweet) Subject: What is reverse or negative video? Organization: International Foundation for Internal Freedom Lines: 23 I'm interested in simulating reverse (or negative) color video mathematically. What is the transform? Is it a simple reversal of the hue value in the HSV color space? Is it a manipulation in the YUV color space? How is it related to solarization? If you want to see something truly wild, turn on the reverse video effect on a camcorder so equipped, and point it at the monitor. This creates a chaotic dynamical system whose phase space is continuous along rotation, zoom, focus, etc. Very very surprising and lovely. I'd like to write a simulation of this effect without analog grunge. Thanks for any info you may have. Please e-mail any info to me. I'll post a summary. Thanks, -- Lance Norskog thinman@netcom.com Data is not information is not knowledge is not wisdom.
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From: louray@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Panayiotakis) Subject: Re: Wallpaper in Windows 3.1 Organization: George Washington University Lines: 22 In article <1qvpdo$q7i@bigboote.WPI.EDU> bigal@wpi.WPI.EDU (Nathan Charles Crowell) writes: >Hi there, > >Is there any utility available that will make Windows >randomly select one of your windows directory's .BMP >files as the wallpaper file? > >Nate > [nate's sig] There are a couple. I am personally using screenpeace, which is a screen saver which will also select your wallpaper from a specified directory (not necessarily the windows dir.). Let me know if you want info. I've been pretty happy with screenpeace, and the latest version (3) is *not* at cica, but oak, /windows3/scrpc3or.something Mickey -- pe-|| || MICHAEL PANAYIOTAKIS: louray@seas.gwu.edu ace|| || ...!uunet!seas.gwu.edu!louray |||| \/| *how do make a ms-windows .grp file reflect a HD directory??* \\\\ | "well I ain't always right, but I've never been wrong.."(gd)
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From: ghasting@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (George Hastings) Subject: Re: Soviet space book Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond) Lines: 13 I have received my copies of Cosmonautics 1990 and Cosmonautics 1991, as well as Soviet Space 1990 and Space Station [MIR] Handbook from Aerospace Ambassadors with no problem. I'm getting ready to FAX them some material in Huntsville, and I'll include a printout of your inquiry. ____________________________________________________________ | George Hastings ghasting@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu | | Space Science Teacher 72407.22@compuserve.com | If it's not | Mathematics & Science Center STAREACH BBS: 804-343-6533 | FUN, it's | 2304 Hartman Street OFFICE: 804-343-6525 | probably not | Richmond, VA 23223 FAX: 804-343-6529 | SCIENCE! ------------------------------------------------------------
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From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Subject: Re: Striato Nigral Degeneration Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science Lines: 16 In article <9303252134.AA09923@walrus.mvhs.edu> ktodd@walrus.mvhs.edu ((Ken Todd)) writes: >I would like any information available on this rare disease. I understand >that an operation referred to as POLLIDOTOMY may be in order. Does anyone >know of a physician that performs this procedure. All responses will be >appreciated. Please respond via email to ktodd@walrus.mvhs.edu It isn't that rare, actually. Many cases that are called Parkinson's Disease turn out on autopsy to be SND. It should be suspected in any case of Parkinsonism without tremor and which does not respond to L-dopa therapy. I don't believe pallidotomy will do much for SND. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: degroff@netcom.com (21012d) Subject: Re: Talking to Boeing management about SSTO type stuff from a shareholder perspective. Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Lines: 9 I might suggest giving the management some more mumble time by asking the very leading question (in two or three parts) What are your long term expectations of space market, what projects specifically are they funding by internal funds and at what levels and what competition do you expect in this area. (This last point is always worth hitting upper management with "gently" if you want them to think and as hard as you can if you have a good case that there really is competion)
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From: dtmedin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com (Dave Medin) Subject: Pressure meter Reply-To: dtmedin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville AL Lines: 21 Heise model 710A pressure meter. This is a precision 4-1/2 digit meter measuring 0 - 15 PSI (absolute) in .001 psi increments. Case is in extremely good shape, and can be used as a stand-alone meter or panel mounted. Brass fitting (looks like standard 3/8") on back. Operates from 110 VAC. I'd like $50 for it, or make an offer. It is a lot more useful to a lab than as an ersatz barometer, which is what I've been using it for. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Medin Phone: (205) 730-3169 (w) SSD--Networking (205) 837-1174 (h) Intergraph Corp. M/S GD3004 Internet: dtmedin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com Huntsville, AL 35894 UUCP: ...uunet!ingr!b30!catbyte!dtmedin ******* Everywhere You Look (at least around my office) ******* * The opinions expressed here are mine (or those of my machine)
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From: bh437292@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Basil Hamdan) Subject: Re: Basil, opinions? (Re: Water on the brain) Reply-To: bh437292@lance.colostate.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: parry.lance.colostate.edu Organization: Engineering College, Colorado State University Lines: 65 In article <1qmdtlINNkrc@early-bird.think.com>, shaig@Think.COM (Shai Guday) writes: |> In article <1993Apr15.204930.9517@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>, hasan@McRCIM.McGill.EDU writes: |> |> |> |> In article <1993Apr15.055341.6075@nysernet.org>, astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein) writes: |> |> |> I guess Hasan finally revealed the source of his claim that Israel |> |> |> diverted water from Lebanon--his imagination. |> |> |> -- |> |> |> Alan H. Stein astein@israel.nysernet.org |> |> Mr. water-head, |> |> i never said that israel diverted lebanese rivers, in fact i said that |> |> israel went into southern lebanon to make sure that no |> |> water is being used on the lebanese |> |> side, so that all water would run into Jordan river where there |> |> israel will use it !#$%^%&&*-head. |> |> Of course posting some hard evidence or facts is much more |> difficult. You have not bothered to substantiate this in |> any way. Basil, do you know of any evidence that would support |> this? I agree with Shai, there are many references to Israeli plans on the Litani river but I have yet to find hard evidence. I had mentioned before that there is a report commissioned by the UN to study the Litani river, it is still in draft form. The Israeli gov't also commissioned a study on the river that was done by Dr. Ben Wolfe. The Litani starts in the Bekaa valley in Lebanon, flows Southward, then West across South Lebanon and discharges into the Mediterranean near the city of Tyre. There are other rivers such as the Hasbani and the Wazzani that start in Lebanese territory than join the Jordan river. The most mentioned plan was one that would divert water from the Litani into these, then the water would flow naturally into the Lac De Houle. BUT there is no evidence of any diversion structure (which would need to be at least 3 km long). The area is mountainous, inaccessible and occupied by Israel so I have not seen any independent reports of the existence of any diversion structure there. Another often mentioned diversion is through deep wells. It is also rumored that Israe has 600 m wells tapping into deep aquifers and drawing water on the Israeli side of the border. If such wells are indeed under use they would be costly to operate (high energy costs) and the Lebanese and Israeli gov't should agree on the distribution of water from shared aquifers as part of an overall peace plan and the bilateral negociations on "regional issues". The fact that we have been at war all this time has led to the current state of affairs where withdrawals from such aquifers is completely unregulated. Basil |> |> Hasan |> |> -- |> Shai Guday | Stealth bombers, |> OS Software Engineer | |> Thinking Machines Corp. | the winged ninjas of the skies. |> Cambridge, MA |
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From: jmk@cbnews.cb.att.com (joseph.m.knapp) Subject: Re: Biblical Backing of Koresh's 3-02 Tape (Cites enclosed) Organization: AT&T Lines: 9 cotera@woods.ulowell.edu writes: > David Thibedeau (sp?), one of the cult members, said that the fire >was started when one of the tanks spraying the tear gas into the facilities >knocked over a lantern. Sort of a "Mrs. O'Leary's" tank theory? Moooo. --- Joe Knapp jmk@cbvox.att.com
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From: phoenix.Princeton.EDU!carlosn (Carlos G. Niederstrasser) Subject: Re: Jemison on Star Trek Originator: news@nimaster Nntp-Posting-Host: chroma.princeton.edu Organization: Princeton University Lines: 33 In article <1993Apr20.142747.1@aurora.alaska.edu> nsmca@aurora.alaska.edu writes: > In article <C5sB3p.IB9@fs7.ece.cmu.edu>, loss@fs7.ECE.CMU.EDU (Doug Loss) writes: > > I saw in the newspaper last night that Dr. Mae Jemison, the first > > black woman in space (she's a physician and chemical engineer who flew > > on Endeavour last year) will appear as a transporter operator on the > > "Star Trek: The Next Generation" episode that airs the week of May 31. > > It's hardly space science, I know, but it's interesting. > > > > Doug Loss > > > Interesting is rigth.. I wonder if they will make a mention of her being an > astronaut in the credits.. I think it might help people connect the future of > space with the present.. And give them an idea that we must go into space.. > A transporter operator!?!? That better be one important transport. Usually it is a nameless ensign who does the job. For such a guest appearance I would have expected a more visible/meaningful role. --- --------------------------------------------------------------------- | Carlos G. Niederstrasser | Only two things are infinite, | | Princeton Planetary Society | the universe and human | | | stupidity, and I'm not sure | | | about the former. - Einstein | | carlosn@phoenix.princeton.edu |---------------------------------| | space@phoenix.princeton.edu | Ad Astra per Ardua Nostra | ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: eck@panix.com (Mark Eckenwiler) Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more. Organization: NWO Steering Committee Distribution: na Lines: 26 In <1993Apr17.032828.14262@clarinet.com>, brad@clarinet.com sez: > >Do the police normally reveal every tap they do even if no charges are >laid? In many ways, it would be a positive step if they had to. >Judges set time limits on warrants, I assume. Under the relevant federal law, 18 USC sec. 2518(8)(d), the authorizing judge must notify the targets within 90 days after the tap period (with extensions) expires. This is the "normal" practice. Of course, no wiretap law would be complete without the Unless Clause, which in subsection 8(d) reads like this: "On an ex parte showing [i.e., by the gov't without opposition, since that would obviously involve notice to the targets] of good cause to a judge of competent jurisdiction the serving of the inventory required by this subsection [the order itself; dates of interception; etc.] *may be postponed*" (emphasis added). [Followups directed to a few select groups.] -- MORAL: Always Choose the Right Sort of Parents Before You Start in to be Rough - George Ade Mark Eckenwiler eck@panix.com ...!cmcl2!panix!eck
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From: sloan@cis.uab.edu (Kenneth Sloan) Subject: Re: Surface normal orientations Organization: CIS, University of Alabama at Birmingham Lines: 42 In article <1pscti$aqe@travis.csd.harris.com> srp@travis.csd.harris.com (Stephen Pietrowicz) writes: >... >How do you go about orienting all normals in the same direction, given a >set of points, edges and faces? Look for edge inconsistencies. Consider two vertices, p and q, which are connected by at least one edge. If (p,q) is an edge, then (q,p) should *not* appear. If *both* (p,q) and (q,p) appear as edges, then the surface "flips" when you travel across that edge. This is bad. Assuming (warning...warning...warning) that you have an otherwise acceptable surface - you can pick an edge, any edge, and traverse the surface enforcing consistency with that edge. 0) pick an edge (p,q), and mark it as "OK" 1) for each face, F, containing this edge (if more than 2, oops) make sure that all edges in F are consistent (i.e., the Face should be [(p,q),(q,r),(r,s),(s,t),(t,p)]). Flip those which are wrong. Mark all of the edges in F as "OK", and add them to a queue (check for duplicates, and especially inconsistencies - don't let the queue have both (p,q) and (q,p)). 2) remove an edge from the queue, and go to 1). If a *marked* edge is discovered to be inconsistent, then you lose. If step 1) finds more than one face sharing a particular edge, then you lose. Otherwise, when done, all of the edges will be consistent. Which means that all of the surface normals will either point IN or OUT. Deciding which way is OUT is left as an exercise... -- Kenneth Sloan Computer and Information Sciences sloan@cis.uab.edu University of Alabama at Birmingham (205) 934-2213 115A Campbell Hall, UAB Station (205) 934-5473 FAX Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
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From: callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison) Subject: Re: WARNING.....(please read)... Nntp-Posting-Host: uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA Lines: 34 In article <1993Apr19.145238.9561@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> bqueiser@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Brian J Queiser) writes: >anything if he hadn't emptied his gun into the asshole. Texas--it's >whole other country. That reminds me of one of Texas's ads...you hear a guy speaking in French (like it's a letter home), then the French moves to the background, and a French-accented voice come to the foreground, talking about how he went walking on the beach, and it felt so much like home that he decided to take his shoes off...and the rest of his clothes. It ended with "please send bail." :-) >On an rec.autos note, does anyone carry a gun on them or keep one in >their car (which is bad idea, isn't it?) if you work in a bad part of >town (or regularly go through one)? Is this a loaded question? :^) I normally have an unloaded Colt Delta in my glove box with a loaded magazine handy (which is perfectly legal in Oklahoma). For those times that I'm travelling inter-state, I keep an unloaded S&W .44 Magnum revolver in the glove box, with a speed-loader in my pocket (which is legal everywhere, under Federal law, Illinois State Police be hanged). As I've said before, this is stricly for defense; my insurance will pay to replace my car, but I only have one life... James James P. Callison Microcomputer Coordinator, U of Oklahoma Law Center Callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu /\ Callison@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu DISCLAIMER: I'm not an engineer, but I play one at work... The forecast calls for Thunder...'89 T-Bird SC "It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. You take away all he has and all he's ever gonna have." --Will Munny, "Unforgiven"
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From: pchang@ic.sunysb.edu (Pong Chang) Subject: Video Title Maker for sale Nntp-Posting-Host: libws4.ic.sunysb.edu Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Lines: 37 Videonics Title maker System ============================ about 2 monthes old, used only once. includes: 1) character generator model # TM-1 rez: 720x480 8000 available chars. 12 fonts stereo sound over a million different colors available. 20 special effects full keyboard design mail me for more details. 2) Thums Up Video Editor model # TU-1 marks differnent sections of tape as "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" so you can skip the bad parts on tape. built-in video enhancer for copying tapes or viewing them. automatic fader (switchable) use in combination w/ the above unit both units in EXCELLENT condition, comes with all docs, unregistered warranty cards. J&R music world sells these for $399 and $229, respectively. i am asking $500 for both units. email me at pchang@ic.sunysb.edu if you are interested. -- ********************************************************************** C_ommon pchang@ic.sunysb.edu S_ense State University of New York @ Stony Brook E_ngineer **********************************************************************
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From: asper@calvin.uucp (Alan E. Asper) Subject: Re: New to Motorcycles... Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: calvin.sbc.com In article <1993Apr20.131800.16136@alw.nih.gov> gregh@niagara.dcrt.nih.gov (Gregory Humphreys) writes: >2) What is buying a bike going to do to my insurance? I turn 18 in >about a month so my parents have been taking care of my insurance up >till now, and I need a comprehensive list of costs that buying a >motorcycle is going to insure (I live in Washington DC if that makes >a difference) It depends on the bike. Once you've found a bike you're interested in, call some insurance companies for rates. Some bikes are much cheaper to insure than you might think (my EX-500 only costs me $127/year in St. Louis; I'm 27) > >3) Any recommendations on what I should buy/where I should look for it? For a first bike, I recommend 500cc's or less. And a bike short enough to get both feet on the ground when you stop. The one piece of advice EVERYONE will give you is to take a Motorcycle Safety Foundation Rider's Course. See a dealer for details. In some states, completion of such a course can give you a break on insurance. It will also teach you to ride properly from the beginning, so you won't learn any bad habits. Good luck. Riding a motorcycle is the most fun you can have, naked or otherwise. Alan
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From: jebright@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James R Ebright) Subject: Re: WH proposal from Police point of view Nntp-Posting-Host: bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Organization: The Ohio State University Lines: 34 In article <PMETZGER.93Apr19122105@snark.shearson.com> pmetzger@lehman.com writes: > >In article <strnlghtC5puor.704@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes: > > There has been extensive discussion in the eff forum, for example, about > inadmissible taps being used to develop information that could then lead to > admissible evidence. This might put a stop to such things, which must from > time to time be simple fishing expeditions. > >Far more likely, these things will continue to be done no matter what >assurances we are given. "Key Escrow" is likely going to prove to be a >joke. I feel like Winston Churchill in 1941 :( ...... but, the privacy Clipper will, TO THE EXTENT KEY ESCROW IS LEGITIMATE, stop most of the abuse of wiretaps by local cops, company cops, angry husbands/ wives, etc... It is going to be hard for the keystone cops, the Proctor&Gamble cops, etc. to bypass even a product as flawed as the ClipJob. Now I admit, I am hard pressed to find anything else good to say about it except that, if it actually takes off, someone will certainly come up with a REAL crypto chip (pin compatable!) that we can buy... Unless, of course, Big Brother makes it illegal to have real crypto 'cause good honest law abiding citizens will be HAPPY to let the government listen to their every word.... "Me? Did I say THAT?" "I am not a crook." - President Richard M. Nixon ^^^^^^^^^ -- Information farming at... For addr&phone: finger A/~~\A THE Ohio State University jebright@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ((0 0))____ Jim Ebright e-mail: jre+@osu.edu \ / \ (--)\
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From: cs3sd3ae@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Holly KS) Subject: Re: ROLAND JUNO-60 SYNTHESIZER*UNIDEN RADAR DETECTOR 4 SALE Nntp-Posting-Host: maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University Lines: 4 Actually they synth used in "JUMP" was an Oberheim. Watch the video....... Kevin
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From: yuan@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Maw Ying Yuan) Subject: Win3.1 Config.Sys query Organization: University of Hawaii, College of Engineering Lines: 11 Hi there, With a 16Megs of RAM, is there a need to run/load Smartdrv for Windows 3.1? If yes, can I run/load Ramdrive without Smartdrv? If I need both Ramdrive & Smartdrv, is the following Config.Sys settings OK: ...SMARTDRV.SYS 2048 2048 ...RAMDRIVE.SYS 2048 /E Thanks in advance for e-mail reply. yuan@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu
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From: oberto@genes.icgeb.trieste.it (Jacques Oberto) Subject: Re: HELP!!! GRASP Organization: ICGEB Lines: 33 CBW790S@vma.smsu.edu.Ext (Corey Webb) writes: >In article <1993Apr19.160944.20236W@baron.edb.tih.no> >havardn@edb.tih.no (Haavard Nesse,o92a) writes: >> >>Could anyone tell me if it's possible to save each frame >>of a .gl (grasp) animation to .gif, .jpg, .iff or any other >>picture formats. >> > > If you have the GRASP animation system, then yes, it's quite easy. >You simply use GLIB to extract the image (each "frame" in a .GL is >actually a complete .PCX or .CLP file), then use one of MANY available >utilities to convert it. If you don't have the GRASP package, I'm afraid >I can't help you. Sorry. > By the way, before you ask, GRASP (GRaphics Animation System for >Professionals) is a commercial product that sells for just over US$300 >from most mail-order companies I've seen. And no, I don't have it. :) > > > Corey Webb > There are several public domain utilities available at your usual archive site that allow 'extraction' of single frames from a .gl file, check in the 'graphics' directories under *grasp. The problem is that the .clp files you generate cannot be decoded by any of the many pd format converters I have used. Any hint welcome! Let me know if you have problems locating the utilities. Hope it helps. -- Jacques Oberto <oberto@genes.icgeb.trieste.it>
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From: friedenb@silver.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg) Subject: Re: Zionism is Racism Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University Lines: 26 Distribution: world Reply-To: friedenb@silver.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg) NNTP-Posting-Host: silver.egr.msu.edu In article <20APR93.23565659.0109@VM1.MCGILL.CA>, B8HA000 <B8HA@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA> writes: |> In Re:Syria's Expansion, the author writes that the UN thought |> Zionism was Racism and that they were wrong. They were correct |> the first time, Zionism is Racism and thankfully, the McGill Daily |> (the student newspaper at McGill) was proud enough to print an article |> saying so. If you want a copy, send me mail. If you want info claiming that blacks were brought to earth 60 trillion years ago by Aliens from the plante Shabazz, I can send you literature from the Nation of Islam (Farrakhan's group) who believe this. If you want info claiming that the Holocaust never happened, I can send you info from IHR (Institute for Historical Review - David Irving's group), or just read Dan Gannon's posts on alt.revisionism. I just wanted to put Steve's post in with the company that it deserves. |> Steve Gedaliah Friedenberg -=-Department of Mechanical Engineering -=-Department of Metallurgy, Mechanics and Materials Science -=-Michigan State University
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From: tomgift@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Gift) Subject: Re: BATF/FBI revenge Keywords: BATF FBI Korash "child abuse" guns murder CONTROL Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Lines: 10 pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes: >Well, maybe I AM overreacting. This is probably the best part of your post. Everything else is shrill speculation. Tom Gift tomgift@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: tp0x+@cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Price) Subject: Re: Serbian genocide Work of God? Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon Lines: 17 In article <Apr.24.01.09.19.1993.4263@geneva.rutgers.edu> revdak@netcom.com (D. Andrew Kille) writes: >James Sledd (jsledd@ssdc.sas.upenn.edu) wrote: >: Are the Serbs doing the work of God? Hmm... >: > >Are you suggesting that God supports genocide? >Perhaps the Germans were "punishing" Jews on God's behalf? > >Any God who works that way is indescribably evil, and unworthy of >my worship or faith. You might want to re-think your attitude about the Holocaust after reading Deuteronomy chapter 28. Tom Price | tp0x@cs.cmu.edu | Free will? What free will? ***************************************************************************** plutoniumsurveillanceterroristCIAassassinationIranContrawirefraudcryptology
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From: dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) Subject: Pro-abortion feminist leader endorses trashing of free speech rights Organization: NCSU Lines: 38 --- 51 Arrested for Defying Judge's Order at Abortion Protest Rally The Miami Herald, April 11, 1993 Melbourne, Florida -- [...] Circuit Judge Robert McGregor's order prohibits anti-abortion pickets within 36 feet of the property line of Aware Woman Center for Choice. Even across the street, they may not display pictures of dead fetuses or sing or chant loud enough to be heard by patients inside the clinic. The protesters say the ruling all but wiped out the First Amendment to the Constitution. ``This is our sidewalk,'' said Joe Carroll, 33, a landscaper who marched with his children, Mary Grace, 8, and John, 7. ``I am not a rescuer. I am not a trespasser. It's just that this is my sidewalk. I am not really protesting abortion. We are protesting denial of our rights of assembly, religion, speech. This judge is trashing the Constitution.'' The children's grandmother led them away, sobbing, as Carroll and his father were arrested. Outside the clinic, Eleanor Smeal, president of the Washington, D.C.-based Feminist Majority Foundation, called for the Florida Legislature and Congress to pass laws as tough as the judge's order, which covers only Brevard and Seminole counties. ``This cannot go on,'' she said. ``This is not freedom of speech, this is total psychological warfare with violence. It is ridiculous to have to ask clinics to go court-by-court . . . to get protection.'' [...] ---
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From: stephens@geod.emr.ca (Dave Stephenson) Subject: Re: Clementine Science Team Selected Nntp-Posting-Host: ngis.geod.emr.ca Organization: Dept. of Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa Lines: 32 nickh@CS.CMU.EDU (Nick Haines) writes: >In article <stephens.734792933@ngis> stephens@geod.emr.ca (Dave Stephenson) writes: > Remember the first government scientist in the British Empire was > the Astronomer Royal, who was paid [...] from the Department > of Ordinance Budget (i.e. the military). Flamsteed House (the original > RGO) was built out of Army Surplus Scrap ( A gate house at the Tower of > London ?), and paid for by the sale of time expired gunpowder [...] >At the time, astronomy was vital to the military, in that navigation >and cartography were of primary impoortance to the military, and good >cartography was impossible without good astronomy. >The relevance these daysis somewhat less obvious. >Nick It still applies, except the astronomy these days is Very Long Baseline Radio Astronomy coupled to GPS and Satellite Laser Ranging. The data from NASA's and the Naval Observatory's (among others) is a vital source of data for studies into crustal dynamics, Earth rotation, and purturbations. Every time there is a leap second added to the New Year, remember the military and science are still co-habiting nicely. The same VLBI was used to track Gallileo as it passed the Earth, and used so little fuel that it can afford to observe Ida. -- Dave Stephenson Geodetic Survey of Canada Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Internet: stephens@geod.emr.ca
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From: redekop@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Tzoq Mrekazh) Subject: Re: New Study Out On Gay Percentage Organization: Welsh Farm Nntp-Posting-Host: obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca Lines: 16 In article <Apr.16.20.34.50.1993.6677@romulus.rutgers.edu> kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) writes: >So, one >should properly write "Who's promiscuous?" The answer is: "Many >homosexuals are." Not quite. The answer is: Many homosexuals, heterosexual, and bisexuals are, but then, many are not. Or, more simply: Lots of people are. -- o- Tzoq "I am a good speller, I am -- C-A-T, dog... ^ ^ O o- tzoq@uwo.ca B-A-T, Rhode Island..." `v' o- redekop@obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca -- Junyer Bear ^ = Bernoulli would have been content to die, had he but known such a^2 cos 2phi =
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) Subject: Re: For sale; Edmonton Oilers. Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department Lines: 31 In article <mcm12B2w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> mbevan@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Mark Bevan) writes: > >He was already offered $65 million for them from Northlands Coliseum >but refused the offer.... I don't think he is going to sale. I think he >may decide to move the team to the States though where he can draw >more revenue from the team. > Pocklington just wanted to wake up the powers that be holding political office, in Northlands, and in the business community that the Oilers with their current lease arrangement are in a state where on a yearly basis they will likely have an operating loss based on "normal" hockey revenues and expenses. That he did this was a good thing...it is better he complain early, and make the city aware of a potential looming crisis before he begins to lose millions and millions of dollars...which would truly jeopardize the franchise. Pocklington's first option is not to sell or to move, but to sell a minority share of the team (to realize some of the appreciated value of the team) and to get a better arena deal, either in Northlands, or via a new building. Pocklington probably isn't going to get exactly what he wants...but ultimately he will probably get enough, or will sell to someone who will probably get enough. There are a lot of risks in moving a team also... ...one has to remember "Peter Puck's principle"...it is better to spend other people's money than one's own if at all possible. Gerald
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From: row0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (RICHARD O. WHITE) Subject: Re: Help with ultra-long timing Organization: Lehigh University Lines: 49 In article <1993Apr5.083324.48826@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, wellison@kuhub.cc.ukans.e du writes: >I have a project that was drooped in my lap that is somewhat a pain to design. >What I am looking for is a stable ultra-long solid state timer. What they want >to do is to place this thing on the Antartic ice shelf and measure the amount >of snow fall over a period of six weeks. Every two weeks, they want to trip a >selonoid to discharge different colored pellets by gas pressure out across the >snow. Then by digging down into the snow, the snow fall amount can be measured >as they come to the different color pellets. > >The problem is trying to build a timer that would stand the cold (-40 degrees) >and a power source that wouldn't drain. I have looked at the XR-2204 timers and >the standard NE556 dual timers, but thier temp specs won't go that low. Also, >two weeks equates to 1,209,600 seconds per firing, which means one big timing >cap ! I have found 2.2 farad (yes, Farad !) caps that have a working voltage of >5 volts and are small in size. But again, the time of discharge at -40 or lower >degrees isn't linear. I was thinking of using several timers chained together >to fire the selonid at the end of the timing period, but that blasted cold and >the drain on a battery over six weeks is the pain. One possibility would be to >use solar panels, but this is during the six month twilight. Anyone have any >good ideas ? > >Thanks in advance... > >-=-= Wes =-=- > just a suggestion: take a motorola mc14536B set it up to give you a pulse once every sec or ten secs with either a RC or xtal clock input. then feed to a MC14521B as clock input and decode output for 1,209,600 sec output ,might have to add a few 'and' gates or decoder chips to get output and reset pulse back to the'521 to restart cycle... Trigger a oneshot from the decoded riseing edge ;the one shot then goes to a mosfet to drive the mechanism to fire the pellet launcher.. these ckts require uAmps of current,between 5 - 15 volts, so a 12 volt gel cell of a few Amphours would last the six weeks. Then take the ckt board & battery wrap in 3" or 4" of foam or build a box of out of the stuff...with plywood or metal exterior... build a small heater out of 10-50 Watt resistors in series to keep the battery and ckts warm. 2nd thought use 2 batteries one for heater one for timer and pellet trigger. Insolate-insolate.......even though the chips state that the - AL rated devices are good to -55 C.. The batteries have a considerable reduction in capacity...oh make sure the area inside has minium air leakage.. hope this helps RW ( is this to long winded for the net??)(be gentle)... --
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From: jim.wray@yob.sccsi.com (Jim Wray) Subject: BATF/FBI revenge Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569 Lines: 55 Reply-To: jim.wray@yob.sccsi.com (Jim Wray) NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu Jason Kratz writing: ... JK>If they had rocket launchers and such (as the press and gov claims) why JK>shouldn't they have done something? What possible use would a religious cult JK>have for a rocket launcher? Also, is child abuse covered by the Bill of JK>Rights? ... This is taken a little out of context and I'm not flaming Jason...it's just that this was the proverbial straw.... I grow a little weary of the allegations (here, the media, people on the street) that the BD's had all these "horrible illegal weapons and other paraphenalia of destruction capable of blowing tanks 50 feet into the air..." and then, without missing a beat, discuss how the BD's willfully commited mass suicide, or killed their own less fanatical and *then* commited mass suicide, etc., etc. If the BD's had all these things and intended to "blow up their abode, blow up Waco, blow up the entire country, or whatever suits your fancy, what happened to all the violence they were supposed to unleash? Why wouldn't they have "gone out in the proverbial blaze of glory" and "come out shooting" with an attitude of "let's take as many of those dogs as possible with us"? Instead, they seemed to have preferred death to whatever they thought was in store for them at the government's hands. It's totally immaterial whether they were all crazy, all fanatics, all followers of the antichrist, haters of the government, practicers of weird lifestyles, or whatever...they must have felt that they were being pressured into renouncing their beliefs, however how strange or lunatic those beliefs might appear to "you and me". There is much precedent for such devotion to cause. My conclusion at this point is that the "authorities" seriously misread their danger to society (else why did the BD's not do as suggested above) and/or chose this incident to make some heinous point or satisfy some internal agenda, up to and including AG J. Renbo using this as an opportunity to assert her manhood. Some people really do believe it is better to die than be subjected to what they perceive as the godless government. When I force myself to not judge others by my own personal standards and beliefs, I can almost admire their stand. I surely believe in the Constitution but I don't know that I have such strength of conviction as evidenced by the BD's. --- . OLX 2.2 . Obesa non cantatis! ---- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ye Olde Bailey BBS 713-520-1569 (V.32bis) 713-520-9566 (V.32bis) | | Houston,Texas yob.sccsi.com Home of alt.cosuard | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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From: zack@netcom.com (Zack T. Smith) Subject: Strange exposure problem Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Lines: 19 Hi, I'm trying to write a Motif program on an Interactive Unix machine, and I'm observing very strange behavior when my program attempts to expose a DrawingArea. Namely, some Xlib operations work, and some do not. In particular, the expose consist of two XFillRectangle calls followed by some XDrawPoint calls, and for reasons unknown to me the point calls are failing whenever a pulldown or popup up menu is (clicked on and) moved in the rightward direction over the drawing area, but after the move, is still on some part of the drawing area. This also happens less consistently when the pulldown/popup is moved in the leftward direction. Assuming that my code is not doing anything incredibly odd, is this a server bug? Thanks, Zack T. Smith
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From: rjb3@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (robert.j.brown) Subject: Re: Human breast-feeding : Myths or reality ? Organization: AT&T Summary: experience with three children Lines: 32 In article <C4vHwo.HLt@tripos.com>, homer@tripos.com (Webster Homer) writes: > rjasoar@vnet.IBM.COM (Robert J. Alexander MD) writes: > > I have an additional question. How long should a mother breast feed her > child? A friend of mine is still nursing her two year old. Is this beneficial? > Her ex-husband is trying to use her coninued nursing of a two year old as > "proof" of her being unfit to be a mother. What studies have been done > on breast feeding past a year etc... upon the psychological health of the > child? > > > Web Homer > My wife breast-fed my three boys 12 months, 16 months, and 29 months respectively and they are 18, 16, and 10 years old respectively. So far everybody seems fairly normal. I noticed a negative correlation with ear infections and length of time nursed in my very small sample. I do notice that the 16 and 18 year old seem to eat a lot, could that be from the breast feeding :-) ? I don't understand the "unfit mother" charge other than any tactic is not too low down for some folks during divorce/child custody battles. Most of the developing nations practice breast feeding to 3 and 4 years old. Are they screwed up because of it ? Would they be much better off if they could use cow's milk or commercial formula ? Doctors ? Bobby - akgua!rjb
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From: clldomps@cs.ruu.nl (Louis van Dompselaar) Subject: Re: images of earth Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science Lines: 16 In <1993Apr19.193758.12091@unocal.com> stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini) writes: >Beware. There is only one such *copyrighted* image and the company >that generated is known to protect that copyright. That image took >hundreds of man-hours to build from the source satellite images, >so it is unlikely that competing images will appear soon. So they should sue the newspaper I got it from for printing it. The article didn't say anything about copyrights. Louis -- I'm hanging on your words, Living on your breath, Feeling with your skin, Will I always be here? -- In Your Room [ DM ]
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From: howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curt Howland) Subject: Re: Drinking and Riding Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office Lines: 27 In article <C4wKBp.B9w@eskimo.com>, maven@eskimo.com (Norman Hamer) writes: |> What is a general rule of thumb for sobriety and cycling? Couple hours after |> you "feel" sober? What? Or should I just work with "If I drink tonight, I |> don't ride until tomorrow"? I'll put in a vote for the latter. A bike takes a lot of involvement, and I for one do not want any accident to be my fault. I remember one artical where the reviewer tried the radio on the bike, not having had one on any of his. He stated that the bike tended to go faster when the music was good. I agree, having felt like this my self, and this was not a physical imparement, like drinking, just the emotional lift from music. First rule of ecology: There is never only one side-effect. Ride Well- --- Curt Howland "Ace" DoD#0663 EFF#569 howland@nsipo.nasa.gov '82 V45 Sabre Meddle not in the afairs of Wizards, for it makes them soggy and hard to re-light.
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From: lreiter@jade.tufts.edu (Lowell B. Reiter) Subject: HP LaserJet III, printing(non-Appletalk) with Duo Lines: 25 Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA How does one print to a non-appletalk printer using DMM LaserWriter Stuff. I'm using the Serial driverand does nothig. I'vetried saving a postscriptfile and then tried sending with SendPS2.0 and it says can'topen LaserWriter Driver, then some appletalk messagethatprinter not specified. I'm using and imagewritwrite one cable. Should I use a null-modem adapter? Help... ---Lowell -- *********************************************************************** * Lowell Reiter "I need a Vacation... Now!!! " * * Tufts University * * Internet Account: lreiter@jade.tufts.edu * ***********************************************************************
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From: tuinstra@signal.ece.clarkson.edu.soe (Dwight Tuinstra) Subject: Clipper will corrupt cops (was WH proposal from Police point of view) Reply-To: tuinstra@signal.ece.clarkson.edu.soe Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 93 Nntp-Posting-Host: signal.ece.clarkson.edu In article 735230663@fbihh, bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev) writes: >strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes: > >> dwight tuinstra posts a very interesting message in which he comments on the >> effects of the Clipper chip on state and local police. Actually, reading >> between the lines, it could be a very good thing for civil liberties in one >> respect, since it will at least prevent cowboy cops and cowboy state and >> local agancies from reading your traffic if they tap it illegally. > >Instead of reading between the lines, try to think a little bit. OK, >if that's way too difficult to you, here are some hints. > >Indeed, the new proposal imposes some additional burocratic burden on >the local police, if they badly want to tape the magic cookie recipie >that your mom is telling you on the phone. So, guess what they will >do? Propose that the new technology is removed? Or implement some >"facilitations"? Of course, you won't want to wait until they get the >approval from two different agencies to decrypt the conversation >between two child molesters, because meanwhile those two child >molesters might be conspiring about molesting your child, right? So, >there should be some way for them to get access to those keys >-quickly-, right? Like, they could have a copy of the database, and >worry about a warrant later... I perhaps should have been clearer and more concise in my post, but that's what I get from posting at 1 am... The central point I made is that local/state police agencies attempting to play by the rules and get warrants, legit escrowed keys, etc., may find themselves at the mercy of bureaucratic inertia and agency infighting at the federal level. I disagree that this would assist civil liberties by hobbling the cowboy cops. It would be a strong incentive, as Vesselin points out, for more police agencies to "go rogue" and try to get keys through more efficient (but less Constitutional) means. Notice what the release said: Q: Suppose a law enforcement agency is conducting a wiretap on a drug smuggling ring and intercepts a conversation encrypted using the device. What would they have to do to decipher the message? A: They would have to obtain legal authorization, normally a ^^^^^^^^^^ court order, to do the wiretap in the first place. ^^^^^^^^^^^ The clear implication is that there are "legal" authorizations other than a court order. Just how leaky are these? (And who knows what's in those 7 pages that authorized the NSA?). There may well arise a black market of sorts _within_ police agencies, in which keys are traded. Furthermore, the police will be in an excellent position to carry out this kind of thing without being caught. They already have a communication infrastructure with secure portions. There are a few laws that I know of, that limit citizens' rights to access police communications (or use the information they get). It may be very difficult to prove police misuse -- the fact that you have such evidence may itself be evidence that YOU have broken some other law. Throw in private detectives, who have even fewer policy/constitutional restrictions. Also consider mercenaries who've "retired" from intelligence agencies. William Gibson must be loving it. Great story material. Don't think it'll happen? Well, consider e.g. the Michigan State Police, generally a very professional organization, which for years kept "Red Files" on thousands of suspected commies, knowing full well it was not consititutional. The standards of evidence were just about zero: people were in the file because they happened to park near a place where, say, a US-China People's Friendship rally was happening -- the police went around writing down license plate numbers. If you happened to be visiting a friend who lived near the meeting place, well, the state police wound up filing you as a subversive. (They were eventually found out and a court ruled against carrying on any more such nonsense. I believe thay may have had to destroy the tapes as well.) Even with well-meaning cops (and I'm sure there are many), there will be strong pressure to bend the constitutional safeguards. We don't need to assume corrupt or unbalanced officers -- it will all be in the interest of enforcing sensible laws, saving lives, and protecting property. Compromises will be made by well-meaning officers, facing what (to them) will be a moral dilemma. Clipper will make criminals out of cops. Do we want to do this to our police forces? +========================================================================+ | dwight tuinstra best: tuinstra@sandman.ece.clarkson.edu | | tolerable: tuinstrd@craft.camp.clarkson.edu | | | | "Homo sapiens: planetary cancer?? ... News at six" | +========================================================================+
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From: mmaser@engr.UVic.CA (Michael Maser) Subject: Re: extraordinary footpeg engineering Nntp-Posting-Host: uglv.uvic.ca Reply-To: mmaser@engr.UVic.CA Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada Lines: 38 --In a previous article, exb0405@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au () says: -- -->Okay DoD'ers, here's a goddamn mystery for ya ! --> -->Today I was turning a 90 degree corner just like on any other day, but there -->was a slight difference- a rough spot right in my path caused the suspension -->to compress in mid corner and some part of the bike hit the ground with a very -->tangible "thunk". I pulled over at first opportunity to sus out the damage. --== some deleted --> -->Barry Manor DoD# 620 confused accidental peg-scraper --> --> --Check the bottom of your pipes Barry -- suspect that is what may --have hit. I did the same a few years past & thought it was the --peg but found the bottom of my pipe has made contact & showed a --good sized dent & scratch. -- Believe you'd feel the suddent change on your foot if the peg --had bumped. As for the piece missing -- contribute that to --vibration loss. Yep, the same thing happened to me on my old Honda 200 Twinstar. ***************************************************************************** * Mike Maser | DoD#= 0536 | SQUID RATING: 5.333333333333333 * * 9235 Pinetree Rd. |----------------------------------------------* * Sidney, B.C., CAN. | Hopalonga Twinfart Yuka-Yuka EXCESS 400 * * V8L-1J1 | wish list: Tridump, Mucho Guzler, Burley * * home (604) 656-6131 | Thumpison, or Bimotamoeba * * work (604) 721-7297 |*********************************************** * mmaser@sirius.UVic.CA |JOKE OF THE MONTH: What did the gay say to the* * University of Victoria | Indian Chief ? * * news: rec.motorcycles | ANSWER: Can I bum a couple bucks ? * *****************************************************************************
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From: gavin@krypton.asd.sgi.com (Gavin Bell) Subject: Re: Surface normal orientations Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Mountain View, CA Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: krypton.asd.sgi.com In <1pscti$aqe@travis.csd.harris.com> srp@travis.csd.harris.com (Stephen Pietrowicz) writes: >How do you go about orienting all normals in the same direction, given a >set of points, edges and faces? This algorithm works well for me: Algorithm to attempt to find outward-facing normals: --------------------------------------------------- First, mark all faces as UNKNOWN. Then create an edge dictionary that allows you to find all of the faces sharing a given edge (where an edge is two integers representing the two shared vertices). Pick an arbitrary face and mark it COUNTER_CLOCKWISE. Using the edge dictionary, orient all surrounding faces based on the orientation of this face. And recurse for all surrounding faces, consistently orienting the entire surface. Find the average of the vertices in this surface. Using that point, calculate a volume measurement, taking into account the face's orientation. If the volume turns out to be positive, assume the faces are oriented correctly. If it is negative, reverse their orientations (mark them CLOCKWISE). If any faces are still UNKNOWN after this, choose another face and go through the algorithm again. At the end, faces marked CLOCKWISE must have their indices reversed before facet normals are found. (Note: if you are running on Silicon Graphics machines and buy the IRIS Inventor 3D toolkit developers package you have the source to this algorithm-- see /usr/src/Inventor/tools/ivnorm/. If you're not... sorry, I can't give out the source, and even if I could it relies heavily on Inventor). -- --gavin (gavin@sgi.com, (415)390-1024)
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From: mlj@af3.mlb.semi.harris.com (Marvin Jaster ) Subject: FOR SALE Nntp-Posting-Host: sunsol.mlb.semi.harris.com Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL Keywords: FOR SALE Lines: 44 I am selling my Sportster to make room for a new FLHTCU. This scoot is in excellent condition and has never been wrecked or abused. Always garaged. 1990 Sportster 883 Standard (blue) factory 1200cc conversion kit less than 8000 miles Branch ported and polished big valve heads Screamin Eagle carb Screamin Eagle cam adjustable pushrods Harley performance mufflers tachometer new Metzeler tires front and rear Progressive front fork springs Harley King and Queen seat and sissy bar everything chromed O-ring chain fork brace oil cooler and thermostat new Die-Hard battery bike cover price: $7000.00 phone: hm 407/254-1398 wk 407/724-7137 Melbourne, Florida
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From: shmuel@mapsut.einstein.com (Shmuel Einstein) Subject: Screen capture -> CYMK converter Nntp-Posting-Host: mapsut.einstein.com Organization: Shmuel Einstein & Associates, Inc. Lines: 20 I have a small program to extract a 640x480 image from a vga 16 color screen, and store that image in a TIFF file. I need to insert the image into a sales brochure, which I then need printed in 4 color. On a mac, I would use Photoshop to separate the image into 5 EPS files, and then pull it into quark express, then get it printed to film on a lintronix at a service bureau. However, I don't have a mac, but I do have windows. What would I need to do this type of operation in the windows 3.1 environment? Are there any separation programs available on the net? Is there a good page layout program that I should look into? Thanks in advance. -- Shmuel Einstein, shmuel@einstein.com Shmuel Einstein & Associates, Inc. 9100 Wilshire Blvd, Suite 235 E Beverly Hills, CA 90212 310/273-8971 FAX 310/273-8872
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From: rlm7638@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jack McKinney) Subject: Official Rules of Baseball ISBN Organization: Mistress Barbara's Dungeon Palace Lines: 12 Distribution: na NNTP-Posting-Host: tamsun.tamu.edu I am trying to get a copy of the _official_ rules of baseball. Someone once sent me the ISBN number of it, but I have since lost it. Can anyone give me this information, or tell me where I can find the book? None of my local bookstores have it. +---------------------------------------------------+------------------------+ | "I'm walking home from school, and I'm watching | Jack McKinney | | some men building a new house, and the guy ham- | jmckinney@tamu.edu | | mering on the roof calls me a paranoid little +------------------------+ | weirdo.... in Morse code." | This space | | -Emo Philips | for rent | +---------------------------------------------------+------------------------+
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From: boyle@cactus.org (Craig Boyle) Subject: Re: Opel owners? Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx Lines: 31 In article <C5sxI4.J9B@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (OrioleFan@uiuc) writes: >gibbonsa@fraser.sfu.ca (Darren Gibbons) writes: > >>I'm looking for information on Opel cars. Now you ask, which model? >>Well, the sad truth is, I'm not entirely sure, but it's a two-seater, >>with roll-over headlights, hard top, and really sporty looking. My >>friend has one sitting in his yard in really nice condition, >>body-wise, but he transmission has seized up on him, so it hasn't run >>for a while. Does anyone have any info on these cars? The engine >>compartment looks really tight to work on, but it is in fine shape and >>I am quite interested in it. >>Thanks! >>Darren Gibbons >>gibbonsa@sfu.ca > > This would be the manta, would it not??? Sold through Buick dealers in the mid '70's as the price leader???? Sounds a lot more like an Opel GT to me. I'd guess that this is on the same chassis as the Kadett, rather than the bigger Manta - but I could easily be wrong. I think the later Kadett's were sold here as Buick Opels. Craig > > Chintan Amin > llama@uiuc.edu > >-- >Chintan Amin <The University of Illinois UrbanaChampaign> mail: llama@uiuc.edu >*******SIG UNDER CONSTRUCTION HARD HAT AREA********
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From: wb8foz@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (David Lesher) Subject: Re: Exploding TV! Organization: NRK Clinic for habitual NetNews abusers - Beltway Annex Lines: 11 Distribution: usa Reply-To: wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher) NNTP-Posting-Host: skybridge.scl.cwru.edu Others said: # >... Why would the picture tube explode or even smoke? Naw, it was the penguin on TOP of the set that exploded... ;-} -- A host is a host from coast to coast..wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu & no one will talk to a host that's close............(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
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From: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev) Subject: Re: Secret algorithm [Re: Clipper Chip and crypto key-escrow] Keywords: encryption, wiretap, clipper, key-escrow, Mykotronx Reply-To: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de Organization: Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg Lines: 29 pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes: > Can you, while my mind is on it, give us one good reason that the > algorithm should be a secret algorithm, unless this encryption scheme > either is a joke, or contains features like a 'master key' or other back > door for UNAUTHORIZED eavesdropping? Hmm, here are a couple: 1) If the algorithm becomes known, it will be easy to produce pin-compatible non-crippled chips that provide -real- encryption and privacy, because their keys are only in their users' hands. 2) Since SkipJack is a symmetric key cypher, it needs some way to agree on a session key. The released information says that any protocol may be used (e.g., DH). From a theoretical point of view, this is probably true. However, from a practical point of view, those chips must have some kind of key exchange protocol built-in. What if it is good old RSA? This will mean that the producer will have to pay lots of bucks to PKP. By keeping the details secret this can be avoided... Regards, Vesselin -- Vesselin Vladimirov Bontchev Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN < PGP 2.2 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
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From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) Subject: Re: BATF/FBI Murders Almost Everyone in Waco Today! 4/19 Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc. Lines: 138 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: dale.handheld.com In article <C5tLxr.1xq@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes: > In article <1r21g2INNeah@clem.handheld.com> jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras) writes: > >In article <C5sou8.LnB@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) > >writes: > >> In article <1993Apr20.163730.16128@guinness.idbsu.edu> betz@gozer.idbsu.edu > >(Andrew Betz) writes: > >> >In article <C5rynw.Iz8@news.udel.edu> roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) > >writes: > >> >>And I suppose the FBI also prevented them from coming out with their > >> >>hands up while national tv cameras watch. > >> >> > >> >Watch from where? Two miles away? Far enough away that whatever > >> >really happenned must be explained through the vengeful filter of > >> >a humiliated agency that said (quote!) "Enough is enough." > >> > >> Please tell me what you think would have happened had the people > >> come out with their hands up several weeks ago. > >> > >It didn't happen. > > And who is responsible for it not happening? > Certainly not the children. Koresh was calling the shots. He was > talking with his lawyer and the FBI. Since others were released safely, > there is no sane reason for keeping the children inside the compound. > The FBI and Koresh were calling the shots. And there were very sane reasons for keeping the children, if they let them go, the parents would NEVER see them again. That is not an easy choice, in spite of you cold attitude about it. > >> >>scenario that is simplest and most plausible. I do not generally > >> >>believe in conspiracy theories that involve complicated and unlikely > >> >>scenarios. > >> > > >> >The FBI sent letters to Martin Luther King's wife insinuating > >> >that MLK was having an affair! Again, please tell us exactly > >> >how much you trust our supposedly benevolent government. > >> > >> More than someone who would not release children from the compound. > >> > >Obviously. You are an authority worshiper. > > Not at all. Are you a Koresh worshiper? I am a constitution worshiper. You quite obviously eat anything the authorities feed you, without doubt, which makes you no different that a Koresh worshiper > > >> I.e., more than David Koresh/Vernon Howell/"Jesus Christ". > >> I saw lengthy excerpts from an Australian documentary made in > >> 1992 that clearly showed that this was a cult. > > > >Give me a camera, and time with you, and I can present excerpts that show you > >to be a cult leader. Guarenteed. > > Thanks for my laugh of the day! Definitely a very silly supposition. > If you do not believe this, you are truly naive. It is not only possible, it is easy. I worked in the broadcast profession, at a network station, in the late 70s, I know what I'm saying here. Embarrasing footage is easy to get, add a little sinister music, and the right voice-over, and I'll have you mother agreeing to commit you. > >You should at least view the whole > >documentary before you claim it as a source. > > I would if I could. The news show that showed the lengthy excerpts also > had interviews with the filmmaker who made the documentary who basically > confirmed what was shown in the excerpts from the time he spent at the > compound in 1992. > The news shows were looking for excerpts which backed their position. Do you think they would show excerpts which disproved their points? > >> I am not pleased with the BATF handling of the affair. I think they > >> bungled it badly from the start. But I don't think they are > >> responsible for the fire, which started in two different places. > > > >Two places, eh? You saw this? Or did the wonderful FBI tell you this? > >I saw one place. > > I believe that this was reported by local radio reporters on site. > A fire started in a three story tower at the same time as the two > story window shown on the tv coverage. > The reports of multi-starts came solely from the FBI. Anyone observing the fire from the available video would be hard pressed to see more than one point of fire. Which spread across the compound as a uniform rate. > >> >>The BATF is by no means devoid of fault in the handling of this affair. > >> >>But to suggest that they may have intentionally started the fire is > >> >>ludicrous. > >> > > >> >I suspect that there were plenty of camerapeople willing to > >> >risk small arms fire to get some good footage. These people > >> >were told to get the hell out of camera range. Why? > > > >Couldn't answer this one, eh? This is the most important question of all, it > >is the root cause of all the other suspicion. > > I thought about mentioning how Reagan and the military treated the press > in Grenada and how that set the precedent, but decided it wasn't worthy > of discussion. If the news reporter got shot, you can bet his family > would sue the government for letting him into the danger area. No reported has ever sued the government for such a situation. They know the dangers. Remember, the BATF invited the initial coverage. And how about a simple, remote-controlled, camera or two? There were ways to provide media access. The FBI obviously just didn't want any. > > The root cause of suspicion in my mind is why 100 people wouldn't flee > a building that had numerous exits during the 30 minutes time it took > to burn down. Or why didn't they flee hours earlier when the tear gas was > first introduced? I can find no rational explanation for their behavior. > I can find several. Tear gas and smoke making it impossible to remove the barricades. Flames blocking exits to the saferooms. Perhaps the gun shots were from the FBI, keeping them pinned in? Who knows? > -- > Jim -- jmd@handheld.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I'm always rethinking that. There's never been a day when I haven't rethought that. But I can't do that by myself." Bill Clinton 6 April 93 "If I were an American, as I am an Englishman, while a foreign troop was landed in my country, I never would lay down my arms,-never--never--never!" WILLIAM PITT, EARL OF CHATHAM 1708-1778 18 Nov. 1777
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From: dufault@lftfld.enet.dec.com (MD) Subject: seizures ( infantile spasms ) Keywords: seizures epilepsy Reply-To: dufault@lftfld.enet.dec.com (MD) Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 32 The reason I'm posting this article to this newsgroup is to: 1. gather any information about this disorder from anyone who might have recently been *e*ffected by it ( from being associated with it or actually having this disorder ) and 2. help me find out where I can access any medical literature associated with seizures over the internet. Recently, I had a baby boy born with seizures which occured 12-15 hours after birth. He was immediately transferred to a major hospital in Boston and has since been undergoing extensive drug treatment for his condition. This has been a major learning experience for me and my wife not only in learning the medical problems that faced our son but also in dealing with hospitals, procedures...etc. I don't want to go into a lot of detail, but his condition was termed quite severe at first then slowly he began to grow and put on weight as a normal baby would. He was put on the standard anti-convulsion drugs and that did not seem to help out. His MRI, EKG, cat-scans are all normal, but the EEG's show alot of seizure activity. After many metabolic tests, body structure tests, and infection/virus tests the doctors still do not know quite what type of siezures he is having (although they do have alot of evidence that it is now pointing to infantile spasms ). This is where we stand right now.... If anyone knows of any database or newsgroup or as I mentioned up above, any information relating to this disorder I would sure appreciate hearing from you. I am not trying to play doctor here, but only trying to gather information about it. As I know now, these particular types of disorders are still not really well understood by the medical community, and so I'm going to see now....if somehow the internet can at least give me alittle insight. Thanks.
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From: mwhaefne@infonode.ingr.com (Mark W. Haefner) Subject: Re: Atheists and Hell Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL. Lines: 27 In article <Apr.20.03.01.40.1993.3769@geneva.rutgers.edu> trajan@cwis.unomaha.edu (Stephen McIntyre) writes: > >I don't have a problem with being condemned to Hell either. The > way I see it, if God wants to punish me for being honest in > my skepticism (that is, for saying he doesn't exist), He > certainly wouldn't be changing His nature. Besides, I would > rather spend an eternity in Hell than be beside God in Heaven > knowing even one man would spend his "eternal life" being > scorched for his wrongdoings... > I see some irony here. Jesus was willing to go through torture to free you from the definite promise of hell (based on Adam/Eve's fall from grace) but rather than allow him to stand in your place, you would give up your redemption to stand with those who do not accept his grace. God would rather have none in hell, which seems to put the burden of choice on us. Of course, this is all fictional anyway since you reject him also. My former sociology professor once told us at the beginning of our term, "you all start out with an A...what you do with that during the course of this term is up to you". In the beginning...Adam and Eve were given an A. Mark Haefner
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From: Arthur_Noguerola@vos.stratus.com Subject: Re: Adcom cheap products? Organization: Stratus Computer, Marlboro Ma. Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: m21.eng.stratus.com In article <C5K177.BoK@world.std.com> rogerw@world.std.com (Roger A Williams) wrote: >mdonahue@amiganet.chi.il.us (Mike Donahue) writes: > > >>I do NOT know much about Adcom Mobil Audio products, but I DO know for a fact >>that ADCOM does NOT make its own "High End" Home Audio Equptment and that 80%+ >>of it comes directly out of Tiawan... > >Like most high-volume manufacturers, Adcom has most of its PC boards >assembled off-shore (in their case, mostly in the far east). Final >assembly _and testing_ are done in East Brunswick. > and of course you older folks on the net will remember way back when Adcom got its RAVE reviews and kudos (ca 1985 or so) their 555 amp and preamp WERE not only designed here but built here in the USA. then they went to mexico and then to taiwan right after their sales skyrocketed because of their Stereopile review!!! if you have units that old look for MADE IN --- stickers on your unit.
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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) Subject: Method employed by the Armenians in 'Genocide of the Muslim People'. Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) Distribution: world Lines: 28 Source: "Men Are Like That" by Leonard Ramsden Hartill. The Bobbs-Merrill Company, Indianapolis (1926). (305 pages). (Memoirs of an Armenian officer who participated in the genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people) p. 133 (first paragraph) "In this movement we took with us three thousand Turkish soldiers who had been captured by the Russians and left on our hands when the Russians abandoned the struggle. During our retreat to Karaklis two thousand of these poor devils were cruelly put to death. I was sickened by the brutality displayed, but could not make any effective protest. Some, mercifully, were shot. Many of them were burned to death. The method employed was to put a quantity of straw into a hut, and then after crowding the hut with Turks, set fire to the straw." Serdar Argic 'We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for the Turks and then proceeded in the work of extermination.' (Ohanus Appressian - 1919) 'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish soul.' (Sahak Melkonian - 1920)
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Subject: Re: <Political Atheists? From: bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine) Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR. Lines: 47 In article <1993Apr3.212139.14076@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes: >In article <1pj9bs$d4j@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes: >>I would say that one innocent person killed is in some sense >>as bad as many. We certainly feel that way when we punish >>someone for a single murder. >>Now if we reform system X, by reducing the number of deaths >>by one, we produce system XX. I'd say we should not go back >>to system X, even though by doing so we would re-introduce only >>a single extra death. > >Bob seems to think that one is as bad as many in a sense somewhat stronger than >the one you indicate. >-- Yes, I do. My argument is that the sole purpose of the death penalty is to kill people. That is it's primary (and I would argue only) purpose. To continue to kill people by a practice that has almost no utility, especially when you know you will be killing innocents, is unconscionable. At the very least, the existence of the prison system and our transportation system are based on their merits to society, not their detriments. We are willing to accept a few lost innocent lives because there is an overwhelming benefit to the continued existence of these systems. One has to stretch the evidence and the arguments to make the same claim for capital punishment. Just in case I wasn't clear again: We maintain a capital punsihment system that kills innocent people and provides us with no net positive gain. Why? Were you to pin me in a corner and ask, I would have to respond that I don't belief the state should have the right to take life at all. But I won't open that debate, as it seems others are tiring of this thread on a.a anyway. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Bob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM They said that Queens could stay, they blew the Bronx away, and sank Manhattan out at sea. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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From: I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau) Subject: Re: YOU WILL ALL GO TO HELL!!! Organization: Technical University Braunschweig, Germany Lines: 18 In article <93108.020701TAN102@psuvm.psu.edu> Andrew Newell <TAN102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes: >>In article <93106.155002JSN104@psuvm.psu.edu> <JSN104@psuvm.psu.edu> writes: >>>YOU BLASHEPHEMERS!!! YOU WILL ALL GO TO HELL FOR NOT BELIEVING IN GOD!!!! BE >>>PREPARED FOR YOUR ETERNAL DAMNATION!!! >> >>readers of the group. How convenient that he doesn't have a real name... >>Let's start up the letters to the sysadmin, shall we? > >His real name is Jeremy Scott Noonan. >vmoper@psuvm.psu.edu should have at least some authority, >or at least know who to email. > POSTMAST@PSUVM.BITNET respectively P_RFOWLES or P_WVERITY (the sys admins) at the same node are probably a better idea than the operator. Benedikt
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From: thia@sce.carleton.ca (Yong Thia) Subject: protection fault Summary: fault Keywords: fault Organization: Carleton University Distribution: na Lines: 13 Hi! I was wondering if anyone out there could help me. I have an error message that goes: What does it mean? I am running MS windows 3.1. Thanks in advance --
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) Subject: Re: This year's biggest and worst (opinion)... Keywords: NHL, awards Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department Lines: 60 In article <C4zCII.Ftn@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> smale@healthy.uwaterloo.ca (Bryan Smale) writes: > > Team Biggest Biggest >Team: MVP: Surprise: Disappointment: >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >Boston Bruins Oates D.Sweeney Wesley >Buffalo Sabres Lafontaine Mogilny Audette (jinx?) >Calgary Flames Roberts Reichel Petit >Chicago Blackhawks Roenick Ruuttu Goulet Chelios is by far the MVP on Chicago... >Detroit Red Wings Yzerman Chaisson Kozlov >Edmonton Oilers Manson Buchberger Mellanby Manson, by his own admission, had a terrible year...the Oilers don't really have a team MVP...by default, it should go to Craig MacTavish. Shjon Podein was the biggest surprise...Tikkanen the biggest disappointment. >Hartford Whalers Sanderson Cassells Corriveau >Los Angeles Kings Robitaille Donnelly Hrudey >Minnesota North Stars Modano Tinordi(not expected back) Broten Tinordi was back by mid-season last year...and when he plays he is the MVP. >Montreal Canadiens Muller Lebeau Savard >New Jersey Devils Stevens Semak MacLean >New York Islanders Turgeon King(finally) Marois King had a great year last year also. >New York Rangers Messier Kovalev Bourque How can Kovalev be a surprise? >Ottawa Senators MacIver Baker Jelinek >Philadelphia Flyers Lindros/Recchi Fedyk/Galley Eklund Fence-sitting...look at Philly's record with Eric and without... there is no doubt. Soderstrom is probably the biggest surprise. >Pittsburgh Penguins Lemieux Tocchet(even for him) Jagr Tocchet had a near 100 point season in Philly with Mike Bullard as his center...why shouldn't he be able to do that with Mario? >Quebec Nordiques Sakic/Ricci Kovalenko Pearson >San Jose Sharks Kisio Gaudreau Maley >St Louis Blues Shanahan C.Joseph Ron Sutter Really Joseph deserves the MVP nod. >Tampa Bay Lightening Bradley Bradley Creighton/Kasper >Toronto Maple Leafs Gilmour Potvin Ellett/Anderson >Vancouver Canucks Bure Nedved(finally) Momesso >Washington Capitals Hatcher Bondra/Cote Elynuik >Winnipeg Jets Selanne Selanne Druce Gerald
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From: wesommer@mit.edu (Bill Sommerfeld) Subject: Re: The source of that announcement Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Lines: 112 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: bill-the-cat.mit.edu In-reply-to: marc@mit.edu's message of 18 Apr 1993 01:19:38 GMT % telnet csrc.ncsl.nist.gov 25 Trying... Connected to csrc.ncsl.nist.gov. Escape character is '^]'. 220 first.org sendmail 4.1/NIST ready at Sat, 17 Apr 93 20:42:56 EDT expn clipper 250-<csspab@mail-gw.ncsl.nist.gov> 250-<denning@cs.georgetown.edu> 250-<hoffman@seas.gwu.edu> 250-<mkapor@eff.org> 250-<rotenberg@cpsr.org> 250-<rivest@mit.edu> 250-<mhellman@stanford.edu> 250-<alanrp@aol.com> 250-<dparker@sri.com> 250-<jim@rsa.com> 250-<branstad@tis.com> 250 <mgrsplus@csmes.ncsl.nist.gov> quit 221 first.org closing connection Connection closed. Note also: % telnet csmes.ncsl.nist.gov 25 Trying 129.6.54.2... Connected to csmes.ncsl.nist.gov. Escape character is '^]'. 220 csmes.ncsl.nist.gov sendmail 4.1/NIST(rbj/dougm) ready at Sat, 17 Apr 93 23:08:58 EDT expn mgrsplus 250-<mcnulty@ecf.ncsl.nist.gov> 250-Irene Gilbert <igilbert> 250-Dennis Branstad <branstad> 250-Robert Rosenthal <rmr> 250-Gene Troy <troy> 250-<smid@st1.ncsl.nist.gov> 250-Dennis Steinauer <dds> 250 <katzke@st1.ncsl.nist.gov> telnet mail-gw.ncsl.nist.gov 25 Trying 129.6.48.199... Connected to mail-gw.ncsl.nist.gov. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mail-gw.ncsl.nist.gov sendmail 4.1/rbj/jck-3 ready at Sat, 17 Apr 93 23:06:50 EDT expn csspab 250-<burrows@ecf> 250-<mcnulty@ecf> 250-Bill Colvin <colvin> 250-<Gangemi@dockmaster.ncsc.mil> 250-John Kuyers <kuyers> 250-<slambert@cgin.cto.citicorp.com> 250-<lipner@mitre.org> 250-<gallagher@dockmaster.ncsc.mil> 250-<cindy_rand@postmaster.dot.gov> 250-<walker@tis.com> 250-<willis@rand.org> 250-Eddie Zeitler <zeitler> 250-Cris Castro <castro> 250 <whitehurst@vnet.ibm.com> % telnet st1.ncsl.nist.gov 25 Trying 129.6.54.91... Connected to st1.ncsl.nist.gov. Escape character is '^]'. 220 st1.ncsl.nist.gov SEndMaIl 4.1/NBS-rbj.11 rEadY At Sat, 17 Apr 93 23:13:43 EDT expn smid 250 Miles Smid <smid> expn katzke 250 Stuart Katzke <katzke> quit 221 st1.ncsl.nist.gov closing connection Connection closed by foreign host. % telnet ecf.ncsl.nist.gov 25 Trying 129.6.48.2... Connected to ecf.ncsl.nist.gov. Escape character is '^]'. 220 ECF.NCSL.NIST.GOV TGV/MultiNet SMTP service ready. expn burrows 250 Burrows, James <burrows> expn mcnulty 250 McNulty, Lynn <mcnulty> quit 221 ECF.NCSL.NIST.GOV TGV/MultiNet SMTP service complete. % whois -h rs.internic.net first.org National Institute of Standards and Technology (FIRST-DOM) 225/A216 NIST GAITHERSBURG, MD 20899 Domain Name: FIRST.ORG Administrative Contact: Wack, John P. (JPW18) WACK@ENH.NIST.GOV (301) 975-3411 (FTS) 879-3411 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Hunt, Craig W. (CWH3) Hunt@ENH.NIST.GOV (301) 975-3827 (FTS) 879-3827 Record last updated on 17-Dec-91. Domain servers in listed order: DOVE.NIST.GOV 129.6.16.2 AMES.ARC.NASA.GOV 128.102.18.3 The InterNIC Registration Services Host ONLY contains Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. --
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From: eder@hsvaic.boeing.com (Dani Eder) Subject: Re: Guns for Space Keywords: Sopa Gun, Space Launcer Organization: Boeing AI Center, Huntsville, AL Lines: 22 In reference to the limits of acceleration with guns launching solid rockets as payloads. Thiokol provided me with samples and data on a reinforcement to solid motor grains for high accelerations. Solid motor propellants usually have a substantial percentage of aluminum in the mix. For example, the Space Shuttle SRBs are 16 percent Aluminum. The technique is to use a 'foamed aluminum' structure. The structure looks like the inverse of a set of bubbles (an I suspect some bubbling process is used to form it). In other words, if you made a bunch of bubbles in molten aluminum, then froze it, this is what you get. It forms a strong network of effectively aluminum wires in all directions. The remaining solid fuel mix is infiltrated into the voids, and you get aluminum-reinforced solid propellant. The foamed-aluminum makes up about 6 percent of the total propellant, so there is still aluminum particles in the bulk grain. The major improvement is the higher resistance to grain cracking, which is the principal failure mode for solid propellant. Dani Eder -- Dani Eder/Meridian Investment Company/(205)464-2697(w)/232-7467(h)/ Rt.1, Box 188-2, Athens AL 35611/Location: 34deg 37' N 86deg 43' W +100m alt.
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, academic Computer Center From: <U56673@uicvm.uic.edu> Subject: buying advice needed Lines: 18 I am looking for advice on buying a susuki GS1100E. does anyone out there know about any inherent flaws the bike may have or problems i should look for? what about insurance rates (is this bike blacklisted)? also, as a person who has never ridden a motorcycle yet is buying a 1100 to start off with.... am I crazy? I have been told by some people to start out small.... and by others that i am lage enough to handle an 1100 right off from the start (6'4" 210 pounds) because some others might be a tad bit small. Oh yeah, one more question. Anybody in the chicago area know of any good instruction schools or programs where i could get aquanted before i just go buy one and kill myself getting it home. thanks, brian p.s. please email me direcly because i do not get much of a chance to read your group... thanks again.. :)
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From: willis@oracle.SCG.HAC.COM (Stan Willis) Subject: 1992-93 NHL Regular Season Final Attendance Report Reply-To: willis@empire.dnet.hac.com (Stan Willis) Organization: none Lines: 40 *** NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE *** 92-93 SEASON HOME ATTENDANCE REPORT Each Qtr. represents 10 home games, Qtr. 4 will have 11 home games. Neutral site games are not included. S/O indicates the number of sell-outs. Team Name Qtr. 1 S/O Qtr. 2 S/O Qtr. 3 S/O Qtr. 4 S/O Totals Average ================================================================================ BOS 140,573 5 142,694 7 142,768 6 152,468 8 578,503 14,109 BUF 144,701 0 148,516 3 152,133 5 168,878 4 614,228 14,981 CAL 190,125 1 196,174 3 196,982 4 217,346 5 800,627 19,527 CHI 176,372 10 176,746 9 177,981 10 196,749 11 727,848 17,752 DET 196,330 10 196,670 10 197,228 10 217,167 10 807,395 19,692 EDM 139,038 0 149,422 2 152,831 2 165,384 2 606,675 14,796 HAR 92,994 0 110,670 2 108,651 0 122,123 0 434,438 10,596 LA 154,065 5 159,014 8 160,050 10 176,055 11 649,184 15,833 MIN 130,710 2 140,933 3 139,986 1 160,213 4 571,842 13,947 MON 168,097 8 169,671 10 168,784 10 190,186 11 696,738 16,993 NJ 127,053 0 124,011 2 145,856 2 163,050 1 559,970 13,657 NYI 114,706 1 108,502 1 123,167 3 139,946 0 486,321 11,861 NYR 178,200 7 179,990 6 182,000 10 199,337 8 739,527 18,037 OTT 104,713 10 105,000 10 104,602 10 115,330 11 429,645 10,479 PHI 172,372 4 172,967 3 172,613 2 190,520 5 708,472 17,279 PIT 160,379 6 161,475 8 161,280 6 177,705 10 660,839 16,118 QUE 149,452 3 147,911 3 147,394 2 168,830 8 613,587 14,965 SJ 110,890 10 110,374 8 110,120 7 121,745 10 453,129 11,051 STL 156,313 3 170,531 5 171,249 5 187,849 7 685,942 16,730 TB 97,269 5 99,621 6 99,611 4 114,059 9 410,560 10,013 TOR 155,500 4 157,779 9 157,014 8 172,888 11 643,181 15,687 VAN 144,120 0 154,184 4 157,094 6 176,751 8 632,149 15,418 WAS 153,209 0 163,563 1 161,479 2 171,711 2 649,962 15,852 WIN 131,072 0 135,902 1 133,414 1 154,956 2 555,344 13,544 3,488,253 3,582,320 3,624,287 4,021,246 14,716,106 Avg. 14,534 14,926 15,101 15,231 14,955
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From: higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey) Subject: Re: How to get there? (was Re: Comet in Temporary Orbit Around Jupiter? Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalf.fnal.gov In article <1993Apr15.051309.22252@stortek.com>, pg@sanitas.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes: > Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey (higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov) wrote: > : While you're at it, comet experts, explain how a comet gets into > : Jovian orbit to begin with! > > : There are non-gravitational forces from heating and outgassing when a > : comet gets into the inner solar system. [...] > > Don't forget the Galilean satellites of Jupiter. My poor old physics intuition will be very surprised if these tiny masses, sitting very close to Jupiter, play any role whatsoever in the problem. Or, to put it more technically, the extra "volume" they add to the phase space of possible capture trajectories is negligible. Jupiter is 2E27 kg, while the Galilean satellites are around 1E23. Also, as I said, the few references that I've looked at do not mention outgassing or breakup as important processes. The important thing is a Jupiter-Sun-comet "reverse slingshot" that leads to a weakly Jupiter-bound orbit for the comet (at least a temporary one). Bill Higgins | Late at night she still doth haunt me Fermilab | Dressed in garments soaked in brine Bitnet: HIGGINS@FNAL.BITNET | Though in life I used to hug her Internet: HIGGINS@FNAL.FNAL.GOV | Now she's dead, I draw the line! SPAN/Hepnet: 43011::HIGGINS | --after the tragedy, "Clementine"
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From: steinman@me.utoronto.ca (David Steinman) Subject: Re: And America's Team is....But Why? Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering Lines: 15 cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (OrioleFan@uiuc) writes: > The defenition of the Underdog is a team that has no talent and comes >out of nowhere to contend. The '69 Mets and '89 Orioles are prime examples, >not the Cubs. Sorry, but it is *virtually* impossible to win a division with "no talent" over 162 games. I would amend your definition to: underdog: a team expected to lose, but which wins thanks to underestimated talent. -- Dave!
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From: herrod@CS.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Herrod) Subject: Dos window macros Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Distribution: usa Lines: 6 Does anyone know a program that will record keyboard sequences that I do in a windowed dos box? I would like to have something that starts a telnet program and then logs me into my accounts. Windows Recorder doesn't seem to be able to record the key sequences. Thanks, STeve
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From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton) Subject: Re: Ban All Firearms ! Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton) Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH Distribution: usa Lines: 24 As quoted from <1993Apr17.025258.7013@microsoft.com> by anthonyf@microsoft.com (Anthony Francisco): > cmort: > | If anybody wanted proof of the nonsense of the "you can't build guns" claim, > | they need look no farther than the Philippines. Amateur gunsmiths there > | regularly produce everything from .45 automatics to full auto shotguns. Now > | if this guy wants to claim that the Philippines is either technologically > | superior to the US or that their transportation is better than ours, all I > | can say is that he's living in a fantasy world. > > Unfortunately a few of those .45s blow up in your hands. That's life. First you marry Imelda Marcos, then you die! :) > On the other hand, my compatriots built an excellent copy of a Beretta that > I enjoyed using when I lived in the Philippines. Hmmmm. And that's the HARD stuff to copy! -- =================================================================== "You're like a bunch of over-educated, New York jewish ACLU lawyers fighting to eliminate school prayer from the public schools in Arkansas" - Holly Silva
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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) Subject: Ariane v.56 Mission Data Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci. Lines: 114 ARIANESPACE FLIGHT 56 (Flight V.56 was originally intended to carry the Hughes HS-601 series Galaxy IV satellite, but the payload was withdrawn just prior to flight.) The 56th Ariane launch is now scheduled to place the ASTRA 1C and ARSENE satellites into an improved geostationary transfer orbit (GTO), with inclination reduced to 5 degrees and apogee altitude increased by 150 km. This will be the 28th launch of an Ariane 4 and the first in the 42L configuration, with 2 liquid strap-on boosters (PAL). It will be launched from the newly refurbished Ariane launch complex ELA 2, in Kourou - French Guiana. The launch vehicle performance requirement for this mission is 3,147 kg of which 2,944 kg represents the satellite mass. The total vehicle mass at liftoff is 361,778 kg. Required Orbit Characteristics: Perigee Altitude ..... 200 km Apogee Altitude ...... 36,160 km at injection Inclination .......... 5 degrees The Ariane 42L lift-off for Flight 56 is scheduled on Thursday, April 29, 1993, as soon as possible within the following launch window: Kourou Time GMT (04/30/93) Washington, DC 21:52 - 22:50 00:52 - 01:50 20:52 - 21:50 LAUNCH VEHICLE: Ariane 42L. This is a three-stage liquid fueled launcher with two liquid fueled strap-on boosters. The first stage (L220) is built by Aerospatiale, and is powered by 4 liquid fueled Viking V engines. The second stage (L33) is built by MBB Erno and is powered by a single Viking IV engine. Both the Viking IV and V engines are manufactured by SEP. The first and second stages use a biliquid UH25/N2O4 fuel. The third stage (H10) is built by Aerospatiale, and is powered by a cryogenic H2/O2 fueled HM-7B engine built by SEP. The two strap-on boosters (PAL) are each powered by a Viking VI engine, also built by SEP, which use the same biliquid fuel as the first and second stages. The fully assembled launch vehicle stands 56 meters high on the pad. It uses the Type 01 Ariane Short payload fairing. Flight Profile: +02:21 Liquid strap-on booster jettison +03:11 First stage separation +03:18 Second stage ignition +04:10 Fairing jettison +05:21 Second stage separation +05:26 Third stage ignition +17:30 Third stage shutdown / orbit injection +19:56 ASTRA 1C separation +22:36 Cyclade adapter separation +24:26 ARSENE separation +28:47 End of Ariane mission 56 PAYLOADS: ASTRA 1C is the third spacecraft in the fleet of "Societe Europeenne des Satellites" to broadcast direct TV to homes all over Europe. Built by Hughes, it will be the second HS-601 launched by Ariane. Total mass at lift-off .... 2,790 kg Mass at GEO insertion ..... 1,700 kg Dry mass .................. 1,180 kg On-board power ............ 3,300 W (end of life) Nominal lifetime .......... 15 years Span of solar panels ...... 21 m On-Orbit position ......... 19.2 degrees east, over Africa. Transmission capacity: 34 channels in Ku-band, via 18 transponders. In-flight operations: Solar array deployment ............ about 6 days after lift-off First of 3 apogee motor firings ... about 40 hours after lift-off at 4th apogee ARSENE is the first spacecraft built by the European Space Industry for the benefit of the world amateur radio community. Total mass at lift-off .... 154 kg Mass at GEO insertion ..... 98 kg Dry mass .................. 97 kg On-board power ............ 42 W (end of life) Nominal lifetime .......... 3 years Spacecraft dimensions ..... 1.1m x .96m Orbital parameters ........ 20000/36000 km, 0 inclination, period 17:30. Transmission capacity: S-band: 1 transponder at 2.446 ghz VHF/UHF: 145/435 mhz LAUNCH COVERAGE: All Ariane missions are broadcast live via satellite from Kourou. Coverage begins at 30 minutes before launch and continues until all payloads have been deployed. This mission will likely be carried in the US on Galaxy 6, however it could be Galaxy 7 or another satellite. (What is the European satellite normally used for Ariane coverage?) -{ Dean Adams }-
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From: bakerjp1@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Baker John P. PDD x4895 ) Subject: How does "Differential Mode" GPS work??? Summary: Explaination of DGPS system Keywords: GPS, differential, navigation, radio Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory Lines: 46 >I understand that the new GPS boxes now have an option >known as "differential ready". Apparently land-based >beacons tranmit GPS correction information to your GPS >receiver (with differential option installed). >How does this system work? What frequency is used for >the land-based beacons? >Thanks in advance, >Charlie Thompson >. Here's a rough sketch of how the system works. A reference station with a very exactly known position computes the errors in the incoming GPS signals. These errors are due to several factors including atmospheric distortion, SA (Selective Availability) time dithering, etc. The reference unit contains complex computational equipment to "back out" the errors in its position (since it knows where it is already). It then transmits these corrections on a broadcast which is available to any number of relatively local receivers. If the receivers are nearby (<300km) and are using the same satellites as the reference unit, the errors should be very similar for the reference unit and the receiver unit. Thus, the receiver unit may apply the corrections calculated by the reference unit. The US Coast Guard is currently (as far as I know) installing a series of coastline transmitters for differential GPS. These stations will use existing radio towers. I believe the frequency is to be approximately 305 kHz. There are many other private corporations offering DGPS signals on different frequencies. For example, PinPoint ((310)-618-7076) offers correction signals and receiver units using an FM broadcast system which has stations all across the US. The correction codes are usually transmitted using the RTCM 104 format. Advertised accuracies espouse 1 to 5 meter errors. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- John P. Baker | My opinions are my own. I don't know Johns Hopkins University | anyone else who wants them, anyway. Applied Physics Laboratory | Laurel, MD 20723 | bakerjp1@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: awakhras@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Amer Wahid Akhras) Subject: CD's For Sale Originator: news@nimaster Nntp-Posting-Host: phoenix.princeton.edu Organization: Princeton University Distribution: USA Lines: 26 The following used CD's are for sale. They are each $8 unless otherwise marked. I will pay for the shipping and handling costs. If you are interested in any just e-mail me at awakhras@phoenix.princeton.edu. At that point we will figure out the payment and mailing procedure. Artist Title Robbie Robertson Storyville Love and Rockets Love and Rockets Jeff Lynne Armchair Theatre Elvis Costello Mighty Like a Rose Public Image LTD 9 Neneh Cherry Raw Like Sushi Bobby Brown Don't Be Cruel Depeche Mode Black Celebration Traveling Wilburys Vol. 1 Bad Company 10 from 6 Soul II Soul Vol. II-1990 A New Decade The Godfathers More Songs About Love and Hate Paul McCartney Flowers in the Dirt Simply Red Stars Prince Graffitti Bridge Amer Akhras awakhras@phoenix.princeton.edu
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From: chriss@netcom.com (Chris Silvester) Subject: Re: SHO and SC Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Lines: 39 In article <1993Apr16.193553.27118@mksol.dseg.ti.com> a207706@moe.dseg.ti.com (Robert Loper) writes: >In article <C5L8rE.28@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison) writes: >>In article <1993Apr15.232412.2261@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us> david@ganglion.ann-arbor.mi.us (David Hwang) writes: >> >>I would be willing to bet that if we removed the automatic >>transmissions from all "performance-type" cars (like the 5.0l >>Mustangs, Camaros, and the like) we'd cut down on the number of >>accidents each year. Autos are fine for sedate little sedans, >>but they have no business in performance cars, IMHO. >> >> James >> >I have to disagree with this. I have a 92 Z28 with a 350 and a 4-speed auto >w/ overdrive, and it is really better that way. Chevy autos are reknowned >for their long life and ability to handle copious amount of power. I live >in the Dallas area, and a manual would be much harder to drive in the traffic >here. Now if I still lived out in the sticks like I used to, a manual would be >more fun. > I don't know if it's as much an issue of their ablility to handle the power as it is the power they lose (in the torque converter, etc). >Safety-wise, an auto is less distracting...I would hate to have to be >shifting gears while I was trying to ease into traffic in the freeways here. >Performance-wise, I can hold my own against any stock 5.0 Mustang or 5.0 >Camaro w/ a five speed. > However, if you encounter a '93 Formula with 5.7L & 6-Speed Manual, You'll be SOL, I'm afraid. ;) BTW, I know of what I speak as a former owner of a 5.7L Auto IROC (1989) and current owner of the aforementioned car... Chris S. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Silvester | "Any man capable of getting himself elected President chriss@sam.amgen.com | should by no means be allowed to do the job" chriss@netcom.com | - Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: farzin@apollo3.ntt.jp (Farzin Mokhtarian) Subject: News briefs from KH # 1026 Originator: sehari@vincent1.iastate.edu Organization: NTT Corp. Japan Lines: 31 From: Kayhan Havai # 1026 -------------------------- o Dr. Namaki, deputy minister of health stated that infant mortality (under one year old) in Iran went down from 120 per thousand before the revolution to 33 per thousand at the end of 1371 (last month). o Dr Namaki also stated that before the revolution only 254f children received vaccinations to protect them from various deseases but this figure reached 93at the end of 1371. o Dr. Malekzadeh, the minister of health mentioned that the population growth rate in Iran at the end of 1371 went below 2.7 o During the visit of Mahathir Mohammad, the prime minister of Malaysia, to Iran, agreements for cooperation in the areas of industry, trade, education and tourism were signed. According to one agreement, Iran will be in charge of building Malaysia's natural gas network. ---------------------------------------------------------- - Farzin Mokhtarian --
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From: db7n+@andrew.cmu.edu (D. Andrew Byler) Subject: Re: Monophysites and Mike Walker Organization: Freshman, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 20 Nabil Ayoub writes: >As a final note, the Oriental Orthodox and Eastren Orthodox did sign a >common statement of Christology, in which the heresey of >Monophysitism was condemned. So the Coptic Orthodox Church does not >believe in Monophysitism. Sorry! What does the Coptic Church believe about the will and energy of Christ? Were there one or were there two (i.e. Human and Divine) wills and energies in Him. Also, what is the objection ot the Copts with the Pope of Rome (i.e. why is there a Coptic Catholic Church)? Do you reject the supreme jurisdiction of the 263rd sucessor of St. Peter (who blessed St. John Mark, Bishop of Alexandria was translator for) and his predecessors? Or his infallibility? Or what other things perhaps? Andy Byler
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From: grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) Subject: Re: Krillean Photography Reply-To: grante@aquarius.rosemount.com (Grant Edwards) Organization: Rosemount, Inc. Lines: 41 Nntp-Posting-Host: aquarius stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini) writes: : Living things maintain small electric fields to (1) enhance certain : chemical reactions, (2) promote communication of states with in a : cell, (3) communicate between cells (of which the nervous system is : a specialized example), and perhaps other uses. True. : These electric fields change with location and time in a large : organism. Also True. : Special photographic techniques such as applying external fields in : Kirillian photography interact with these fields or the resistances : caused by these fields to make interesting pictures. Not really. Kirlian photography is taking pictures of the corona discharge from objects (animate or inanimate). The fields applied to the objects are millions of times larger than any biologically created fields. If you want to record the biologically created electric fields, you've got to use low-noise, high-gain sensors typical of EEGs and EKGs. Kirlian photography is just phun-with-physics type stuff (right up there with soaking chunks of extra-fine steel wool in liquid oxygen then hitting them with a hammer -- which, like a Kirlean setup, is fun but possibly dangerous). : Perhaps such pictures will be diagonistic of disease problems in : organisms when better understood. Perhaps not. Probably not. -- Grant Edwards |Yow! Vote for ME -- I'm Rosemount Inc. |well-tapered, half-cocked, |ill-conceived and grante@aquarius.rosemount.com |TAX-DEFERRED!
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From: billma@utoday.com (Bill Mallon) Subject: Re: Guns GONE. Good Riddance ! Reply-To: billma@utoday.com (Bill Mallon) Organization: CMP Publications, Inc., Manhasset, NY Lines: 18 In article <1993Apr18.000152.2339 @gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>, jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes: > Surrender your arms. Soon enough, > officers will be around to collect > them. Resistance is useless. They > ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ ^^^^^^^ > will overwhelm you - one at a time. Are you certain you didn't mean to post to alt.french.captain.borg.borg.borg? You'd better rush home...I hear Kruschev calling "Come to papa, jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu!" "I am endeavoring, ma'am, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit, using stone knives and bearskins." --Spock - Humble Typesetter -
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From: agae@palm.lle.rochester.edu (Andres C. Gaeris) Subject: Re: Orion drive in vacuum -- how? Reply-To: agae@palm.lle.rochester.edu (Andres C. Gaeris) Organization: UofR Laboratory for Laser Energetics Lines: 17 Nntp-Posting-Host: palm.lle.rochester.edu In article <1993Apr20.164655.11048@head-cfa.harvard.edu>, willner@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Steve Willner) writes: > > The NASM photo archives are open to the public. All (or almost all) > still pictures in the collection are available for viewing, but I > don't know about films. At least it might be worth a try. I'm not > sure if appointments are necessary, but I think not. > Is posible to make copies of these photographs (or any other aerospace photographs at NASM) if you pay a copyright fee? =============================================================================== Andres C. Gaeris || "Living example of the application of Newton's Junior laser fusioneer || Zeroth Law: agae@lle.rochester.edu || `Every body in rest wants to remain in bed'" ===============================================================================
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From: evanh@sco.COM (Evan Hunt) Subject: Re: Is MSG sensitivity superstition? Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc. Distribution: usa Lines: 18 In article <1993Apr19.215342.16930@sco.com> evanh@sco.COM (Evan Hunt) writes: >In article <1993Apr13.201942.26058@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund) writes: >>restaurants advertize "No MSG") - many restaurants that feature salad >>bars use MSG to "keep" the veggies looking fresh longer, also, a number >This brings up an important question for me - could pre-made salads, the >kind sold in supermarkets, have MSG added without mentioning it? Legally, >I mean - anyone know what the law is in this area? Steve Dyer points out that Sharen was probably thinking of Sulfites. But the question still stands. -- Evan Hunt, Asst. Editor, THE WEB For more information about THE WEB, e-mail to evanh@sco.COM.
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From: wl@cypress.com (Wilbur Luo/COMM) Subject: Heard of these South Bay shops? Originator: wl@coast Nntp-Posting-Host: coast Organization: Cypress Semiconductor Distribution: ba Lines: 13 I need to bring on my VW Corrado for body work (I got hit). I was wondering if anyone has heard of any of these South Bay body shops: Akins Collision Center of Santa Clara - on Reed St Auto West Collision - in San Jose Los Gatos Acura Royal Auto Body - in Sunnyvale Thanks! -W
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From: Wilfred.Hansen@cs.cmu.edu Subject: Andrew (was Re: X Toolkits) Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Lines: 40 Distribution: inet NNTP-Posting-Host: po5.andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <C5y8wJ.3zE@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.windows.x: 23-Apr-93 X Toolkits Paul Prescod@undergrad.m (1132) > I get the impression Andrew is from the FSF, but I don't know what it > looks like either. The Andrew User Interface System is supported, maintained, enhanced, and distributed by the Andrew Consortium, Carnegie Mellon. The distribution terms are those of the X consortium, not the GNU Public License. Thus anyone can commercially exploit the Andrew code without restriction. (To encourage membership, however, we defer universal release of the latest versions until Consortium members have had an opportunity to explore the new capabilities.) To se what AUIS looks like, you can try a remote demo. You need an X server (R5 is best) on a machine linked to the internet. Give the command finger help@atk.itc.cmu.edu for instructions. NOTE: The demo version does not use the Motif-look-and-feel scrollbar, but one is available. You can use it on the demo by changing an option in the ~/preferences file and starting a new editor. The Andrew Toolkit component of AUIS is ideal if you want to build applications using compound documents. Andrew's major feature is its architecture for recursive embedding of objects: equation in table in figure in text, for example. This architecture extends to areas not usually found in toolkits, including file stream formats, cut/paste, and printing. Andrew also provides some of the most commonly requested applications: word processor, spreadsheet, drawing editor, and font editor (the latter two are in version 5.2 which will be generally released on the XR6 tape in December.) Fred Hansen Director, Andrew Consortium
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From: jzawodn@bgsu.edu (Jeremy D. Zawodny) Subject: Help needed in setting up NCSA Telnet w/ AppleTalk or Phonenet... Summary: help me.... Organization: Bowling Green State Univ. Lines: 21 Okay, I'm trying to install NCSA telnet on a couple (okay, a whole bunch) of machines. They're all true blue IBMs with either Fallon Phonenet cards or Dastar cards. (I belive those names are correct.) Well, the docs for telnet say that it'll run over an AppleTalk driver, but I've had little success. If anyone has succesfully installed Telnet w/ AppleTalk, I'd like some help with the config file for Telnet... BTW, please reply via E-mail if possible... Thanks, Jeremy -- Jeremy Zawodny | Computer Science Undergrad | Bowling Green State University ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ jzawodn@andy.bgsu.edu | Student Computer Consultant | *thrilled* OS/2 2.0 user
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Subject: 68HC16 public domain software? From: murashiea@mail.beckman.com (Ed Murashie) Organization: DSG Development Eng Beckman Instruments Inc. Nntp-Posting-Host: 134.217.245.87 Lines: 11 Does anyone know of an FTP site where I might find public domain software for the Motorola 68HC16 microprocessor? I am looking for a basic interpreter/compilier or a 'C' compiler. Thanks in advance. Ed Murashie ------------------ Ed Murashie US Mail : Beckman Instruments Inc. phone: (714) 993-8895 Diagnostic System Group fax: (714) 961-3759 200 S. Kraemer Blvd W-361 Internet: murashiea@mail.beckman.com Brea, Ca 92621
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From: johng@ecs.comm.mot.com (John Gilbert) Subject: clipper chip --Bush did it Organization: Motorola, Land Mobile Products Sector Distribution: na Keywords: Big Bubba Is Watching! Nntp-Posting-Host: 145.1.147.59 Lines: 10 In article <WCS.93Apr17024857@rainier.ATT.COM> wcs@anchor.ho.att.com (Bill Stewart +1-908-949-0705) writes: >... This is the Democrats' version >"Defend Free Speech - Reject Republicans" followed by speech control. This must have been in the works for some time. The Bush administration must have been working on it for quite a while. --Clinton simply took the credit (or blame, depending on how you look at it). -- John Gilbert johng@ecs.comm.mot.com
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From: andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) Subject: Re: Backcountry Confidence Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Lines: 26 In article <C5L02E.8GH@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rbw3q@rayleigh.mech.Virginia.EDU (Brad Whitehurst) writes: > The rest of us fall in the middle. There IS too much violent >crime in the U.S., but turning the whole country into an old-time >Dodge City (ref. to American Old West) is not the way. That's an interesting statement. There's quite a difference between Hollywood's "Old West" and the real one. Yes, there were drunks, saloons, mining camps, and thugs. However, as McGrath showed, the thugs preyed almost exclusively on one another. McGrath claims that this was due to the fact that no one much cared if someone who insisted on getting into a fight got his way, even if he lost, while they really did care when thugs preyed on others. >citizens should be able to own weapons, but we see no sense in some >types. We haven't figured out that those distinctions don't actually work. Machine guns have been strictly regulated since 1934. Said regulation is both perfect (legally owned machine guns aren't ever used criminally) and a complete waste of time (the criminal use of machine guns hasn't change at all). The result - we're now arguing about guns that LOOK like machine guns, but are no different than other guns. -andy --
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From: zyeh@caspian.usc.edu (zhenghao yeh) Subject: Ellipse from Its Offset Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 17 Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: caspian.usc.edu Keywords: ellipse Hi! Everyone, Since some people quickly solved the problem of determining a sphere from 4 points, I suddenly recalled a problem which is how to find the ellipse from its offset. For example, given 5 points on the offset, can you find the original ellipse analytically? I spent two months solving this problem by using analytical method last year, but I failed. Under the pressure, I had to use other method - nonlinear programming technique to deal with this problem approximately. Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. Please post here, let the others share our interests. Yeh USC
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From: slc@a2.cim.cdc.com (Steve Chesney x4662) Subject: Diamond Speedstar 24X Driver Bug? Reply-To: slc@.cdc.com Organization: Metaphase Technology, Inc. Keywords: Speedstar Lines: 23 Since swapping out my generic VGA card for a Diamod Speedstar 24X, I have noticed two new problems: * if I create a windowed MS-DOS session (386 mode), when the text starts to scroll, rather than printing characters it starts to print horizontal lines that spill out to the desktop and trash the entire display. Ctrl-alt-del terminates the dos window and restores the desktop * after a short time in NCD's PC X-remote for windows, all characters displayed on the desktop are changed to be unreadable; I am unable to restore without rebooting. These are in both 256 and 16 color 800x600 drivers, large and small fonts. DOS 5, Win 3.1, emm386 and smartdrv installed. I like the speed of the card and have had no other problems. Any ideas? Thanks! -- Steve Chesney slc@catherine.cim.cdc.com Metaphase Technology Inc. 612-482-4662 (voice) 4233 North Lexington Avenue 612-482-4001 (fax) Arden Hills, MN 55126
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From: davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey) Subject: Re: The [secret] source of that announcement Organization: Montagar Software Concepts, Plano TX Lines: 19 In article <gradyC5uAMw.BnG@netcom.com>, grady@netcom.com (1016/2EF221) writes: > Maybe we should start a newsgroup for the distribution of encrypted > posts intended of members of affinity groups with a shared private > key. For example at the coming up Cypherpunks meeting, a private > key corresponding to that particular meeting could be passed out > by a moderator. Minutes, followup comments to other participants, > and so on could be posted to the alt.encrypted group for the use > of the people who attended. Communiques intended by the group for > non-attendees could of course just be signed using the private key > but otherwises not encrypted. I like it. PGP would be useful, I guess. Although I don't have a working version for VMS yet... :-( > grady@netcom.com 2EF221 / 15 E2 AD D3 D1 C6 F3 FC 58 AC F7 3D 4F 01 1E 2F - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - David L. Cathey |INET: davidc@montagar.com Montagar Software Concepts |UUCP: ...!montagar!davidc P. O. Box 260772, Plano TX 75026-0772 |Fone: (214)-618-2117
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From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary) Subject: Re: Gun Control (was Re: We're Mad as Hell at the TV News) Nntp-Posting-Host: ucsu.colorado.edu Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Distribution: na Lines: 31 In article <C4tM1H.ECF@magpie.linknet.com> manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve Manes) writes: >: You are betraying your lack of understanding about RATE versus TOTAL >: NUMBER. Rates are expressed, often, as #/100,000 population. >: Therefore, if a place had 10 deaths and a population of 100,000, the >: rate would be 10/100,000. A place that had 50 deaths and a population >: of 1,000,000 would hav a rate of 5/100,000. The former has a higher >: rate, the latter a higher total. You are less likely to die in the >: latter. Simple enuff? >For chrissakes, take out your calculator and work out the numbers. >Here... I've preformatted them for you to make it easier: > handgun homicides/population > ---------------------------- > Switzerland : 24 / 6,350,000 > UK : 8 / 55,670,000 >... and then tell me again how Switzerland is safer with a more >liberal handgun law than the UK is without...by RATE or TOTAL NUMBER. >Your choice. Because there are about 40 homicides total (i.e. using guns, knives, tire-irons, baseball bats, bare hands, etc...) in Switzerland each year and 850 homicides, total, in England. That's three times worse per capita in England than in Switzerland. Since dead is dead, it really doesn't matter that 60% of the Switz murders involved a gun or that only 0.9% of the English murderers do. Frank Crary CU Boulder
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From: paula@koufax.cv.hp.com (Paul Andresen) Subject: Re: Let it be Known Nntp-Posting-Host: koufax.cv.hp.com Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA Lines: 15 In article <93104.233239ISSBTL@BYUVM.BITNET>, <ISSBTL@BYUVM.BITNET> writes: |> I would like to make everyone aware that in winning the NL West the Atlanta |> Braves did not lead wire-to-wire. Through games of 4/14/93 the Houston |> Astros are percentage points ahead of the "unbeatable" Braves. And they deserve to be, if for no other reason than salvaging a little of the honor of the NL West. The supposed strongest division in baseball lost 6 of 7 to the East yesterday, with only the Astros prevailing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We will stretch no farm animal beyond its natural length paula@koufax.cv.hp.com Paul Andresen Hewlett-Packard (503)-750-3511 home: 3006 NW McKinley Corvallis, OR 97330 (503)-752-8424 A SABR member since 1979
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From: fpa1@Trumpet.CC.MsState.Edu (Fletcher P Adams) Subject: Re: ABOLISH SELECTIVE SERVICE Nntp-Posting-Host: trumpet.cc.msstate.edu Organization: Mississippi State University Lines: 35 kmitchel@netcom.com (Kenneth C. Mitchell) writes: >Dave Borden (borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu) wrote: >: The Selective Service Registration should be abolished. To start with, the >: draft is immoral. Whether you agree with that or not, we don't have one now, >: and military experts agree that the quality of the armed forces is superior >: with a volunteer army than with draftees. Finally, the government has us >: on many lists in many computers (the IRS, Social Security Admistration and >: Motor Vehicle Registries to name a few) and it can find us if it needs to. >: Maintaining yet another list of people is an utter waste of money and time. >: Let's axe this whole department, and reduce the deficit a little bit. I'm really surprised Clinton hasn't already tried to do this. He seems to want to tackle other irrelevant issues first, so why not this one as well. >Let me say this about that, as a retired Navy officer; > >I agree. Cut it. But let's not stop there. > >Eliminate the C-17 transport. Wrong. We need its capability. Sure it has its problems, very few airplanes haven't, but getting rid of something we need is not the answer. What do you want to do, start over a rebuild a new airplane from scatch? It'll have its problems as well and there will be calls again, for it to be scrapped. THe other option is to try to extend the life of the C-5s and C-141s that are getting extremely old. >Scrap the Seawolf SSN-21 nuclear submarine. >Ground the B-2 stealth bomber. It'll cost jobs, but I'm for it. We especially don't need a B-2. THe SSN-21, I know litttle about. fpa
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From: max@hilbert.cyprs.rain.com (Max Webb) Subject: Re: Atheist's views on Christianity (was: Re: "Accepting Jeesus in your heart...") Organization: Cypress Semi, Beaverton OR Lines: 55 In article <Apr.14.03.08.08.1993.5448@athos.rutgers.edu> jasons@atlastele.com (Jason Smith) writes: >One of the Laws of Nature, specifying cause and effect seems to dictate >(at least to this layman's mind) there must be a causal event. No >reasonable alternative exists. The big-bang model supposes a temporal singularity at the point of origin. There was _no_ time for a prior cause to occur in. If you want to invent fables for the surrounding context, fine, but one fable is only as good as any other. Why should I prefer to believe in a God that _just_ exists, as opposed to a singularity that _just happened_, or giant puce subspace iguanas, that fling universes off their tongues like gobs of spit? |As far as I can tell, the very laws of nature demand a "why". That isn't |true of something outside of nature (i.e., *super*natural). >I believe the "genetic code" will be entirely deciphered in our lifetimes, >but we will not see man convert entirely inert material into self sustaining, >reproducing life, *ever*. (I've never been much of a prophet, though. I >can't even *picture* New York in my mind 8^] ). I don't believe *any* >technology would be able to produce that necessary *spark* of life, despite >having all of the parts available. Just my opinion. Just your opinion, and unfortunately wrong. Self assembling molecules have already been produced, entirely from inert matter, and have spontaneously mutated into a more rapidly assembling form on exposure to ultraviolet light. Both abiogenesis and the beginnings of evolution, TODAY. (saw this in "Nature", early last year.) Biological vitalism is dead, and has been dead for many, many years. Give it up. Life is not a 'spark'. Life is the self-organization of systems poised between chaos and order. >Until the King returns, > >Jason Your King baldly and repeatedly stated he would be back within the lifetime of some then present and alive. "Soon, soon" he said, over and over - as have many would be messiahs. It is Nineteen Ninety Three of Years Anno Domini Tell me, Tell me, where is He? Nowhere at all, Q. E. D. Max G. Webb [I should have watched this more closely. We had a discussion about the first cause, etc., not long ago. I'm not up for a replay. There was also a detailed discussion of the point Max brings up here about the initial singularity. The geometry near the big bang is very interesting. Time turns into space, so there is no "before". --clh]
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From: cozzlab@garnet.berkeley.edu () Subject: Re: Printing Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu In article <1993Apr15.053905.16811@sarah.albany.edu> me9574@albnyvms.bitnet writes: [advertises his printing business] Oh, dear. Let me be the first on my block. You have just violated one of the major shibboleths of the Usenet groups: you're not supposed to use a newsgroup to plug your own commercial enterprise (of _any_ kind; people frequently get flamed for announcing they've got a new book out.) I don't know whether this is an official Usenet rule or just a long- standing custom, and it doesn't make much difference from a practical point of view. So please don't do it again. And all you others, who are even now taking keyboard in hand to flame him off the face of the earth--lay off. He didn't know any better. He does now. Dorothy J. Heydt UC Berkeley cozzlab@garnet.berkeley.edu Disclaimer: UCB and the Cozzarelli lab are not responsible for my opinions, and in fact I don't think they know I have any.
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From: Peter Hansen <pgmoffc@BNR.ca> Subject: Re: SIMM vs DRAM X-Xxdate: Tue, 20 Apr 93 08:39:46 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: bcarm382 Organization: BNR X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17 Lines: 24 In article <27988.2BD32F3F@zeus.ieee.org> Arthur Greene, Arthur.Greene@p6.f204.n2603.z1.fidonet.org writes: >Can anyone tell me what the difference is between a 256K DRAM chip and a >256K SIMM? I need the former (I think) to add memory to my Laserwriter >LS. Someone is offering to sell me 256K SIMMS he removed from an SE, but >I have a feeling this may not be the correct form of memory. The sockets >in the Laserwriter look like they want the spidery-shaped chips (there >are 4 sockets, each with, as I recall, 20 pins, arranged in two rows of 10). >Believe it or not, I've never actually seen a SIMM. Help appreciated. A 256K DRAM chip is a 256 kilobit chip whereas a 256K SIMM is a 256 kilobyte memory module. The SIMM is a PCB with a 30 pin connector edge and on the SIMM are 8 256 kilobit DRAM chips (making the total memory 256 KBytes. You are correct assuming that SIMMs will not fit into a LaserWriter. Apple printers either require 64 pin SIMMs like those in the Mac IIfx or special memory chips. Contact your Apple dealer to find out exactly what kind of chips you need. Peter Hansen Bell Northern Research pgmoffc@BNR.ca
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From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) Subject: Re: Fighting the Clipper Initiative Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc. Mountain View, CA Lines: 20 In article <strnlghtC5toC6.KIu@netcom.com>, strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes: > ... > The Federal Reserve Open Market Committee > has successfully kept decisions from leaking for the statutory period until > publication. How are you sure of that? Weren't there some recent studies that found corelations between not-yet announced decisions and market changes? Aren't there continuing early rumors of their deliberations? > Even the Department of Agriculture has successfully kept crop > forecasts from leaking prematurely. Sheesh! Remember the big scandal a year or two (or 3?) ago about exactly such leaks? Vernon Schryver, vjs@sgi.com
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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) Subject: Re: When are two people married in God's eyes? Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens Lines: 39 To recapitulate a bit: - The essence of marriage is two people's commitment to each other. - If two people claim to be married "in their hearts" but are not willing to have the marriage recognized by church and state, that's prima facie evidence that the commitment isn't really there. - There are obvious situations in which Christian marriage is possible without a civil or church wedding: if you're stranded on a desert island, or if your state forbids the marriage for an unjust reason (e.g., laws against interracial marriage). - The legal concept of "common-law marriage" is meant to ensure that the state will recognize marriages that did not start out with the usual ceremony and record-keeping. - Pastorally, I'm concerned that people should not use "being married in God's eyes" as an excuse for living together without a formal wedding. One has a duty to have one's marriage properly recorded and witnessed. - But there are also people who have been through a wedding ceremony without making a genuine commitment, and therefore are not married in God's eyes. Right? -- :- Michael A. Covington, Associate Research Scientist : ***** :- Artificial Intelligence Programs mcovingt@ai.uga.edu : ********* :- The University of Georgia phone 706 542-0358 : * * * :- Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A. amateur radio N4TMI : ** *** ** <>< [I think the last statement is dangerous. I believe as long as someone has formally undertaken the responsibility of marriage, they have a moral obligation, even if their intention was not right. Other people are involved in the marriage covenant. If they believed in good faith that a marriage occurred, then I think there are obligations created to them. Of course there are situations where intent can cause a marriage not to exist. The classic example is when it's done as part of a play. But these are exceptions, and should be clear to all parties. --clh]
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From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig) Subject: Re: Seeking Moe Berg reference/info Originator: news@nimaster Nntp-Posting-Host: crux.princeton.edu Reply-To: roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig) Organization: Princeton University Distribution: na Lines: 29 In article <C5HvFs.4Dw@news.cis.umn.edu> lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes: >In article <14APR93.19061416@vax.clarku.edu> hhenderson@vax.clarku.edu writes: >>David Tate writes: >>>Also, in particular, a colleague of mine is looking for any information he >>>can find on Moe Berg, catcher/linguist/espion of WW2. Any references (or >>>anecdotes, for that matter) would be appreciated. >>Moe Berg, my hero! We were just talking about him on Monday at the >>Yankee game. Well, there's a book about him that's just been reissued: >>I think the title is _Moe Berg: Athlete, Scholar, Spy_, by Tom Sewell >>and two other people whose names I forget. Sewell wrote the chapter >>on Berg in Danny Peary's book _Cult Baseball Players_; this is a good >>source for some of the more famous anecdotes about Berg. Also excellent >>is the section on him in Bill Gilbert's book _They Also Served_, about >>baseball during WWII. I'm told Berg's spy activities are mentioned in >>the recent book _Heisenberg's War_. >His sister also "wrote" a book about Moe that she self-published. The >title is something like _My Brother, Morris Berg_. It's mainly some of >her memories and page after page of Xerox copies of pictures and letters >that Moe had saved. Copies are kinda hard to find, but the Smith Baseball >Library has one for those in Minneapolis... We have one here, at Berg's alma mater (class of 1923). It's kind of a sour thing; she disapproved of the job that Sewell et al had done. Roger
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From: dbstrutt@acs.ucalgary.ca (David Bryan Strutt) Subject: Re: Help with changing Startup logo Distribution: usa Nntp-Posting-Host: acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta Lines: 29 In article <1rgtba$gtn@access.digex.net> farley@access.digex.com (Charles U. Farley) writes: > >I know this is probably a FAQ, but... > >I installed the s/w for my ATI graphics card, and it bashed my Windows >logo files. When I start Windows now, it has the 3.0 logo instead of >the 3.1 logo. > >I thought the files that controlled this were > >\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\VGALOGO.RLE >\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\VGALOGO.LGO > >I restored these files, but it didn't change the logo. Anyone know what >the correct files are? I believe you have the correct files. I think what you'll have to do is go back into Setup and choose change video adapter or whatever it is called. Then the trick is choose the same adaptor you currently have. What Setup does is it actually changes the file WIN.COM whenever you go into it and change the video hardware selection. It incorporates the contents of VGALOGO.RLE into WIN.COM when you do this. This trick can also be used to change the startup logo into whatever you want it to be. -- [.SIG ALERT] dbstrutt@acs.ucalgary.ca [END .SIG ALERT]
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From: Richard.Solomon@ColoSpgs.NCR.COM (Richard Solomon) Subject: Jumper settings for OMTI 8610 ESDI controller???? Organization: NCR Microelectronics Lines: 12 Subject says it all :) I'm looking for the jumper settings for an SMS OMTI 8610 AT-bus ESDI controller card. Thanks in advance, Richard Richard Solomon NCR Microelectronics 1635 Aeroplaza Drive Richard.Solomon@ColoSpgs.NCR.COM Colorado Springs, CO 80916 ...!uunet!ncrcom!ncr-mpd!Richard.Solomon (719) 573-3227
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From: cthulhu@sparky.cis.ufl.edu (Mark Kupper) Subject: CDs for sale Article-I.D.: snoopy.1pspmoINNmtq Distribution: world Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept. Lines: 10 NNTP-Posting-Host: sparky.cis.ufl.edu The following are available for $7.00 each (includes postage if in USA): Ted Nugent - Penetrator Jah Wobble - Rising Above Bedlam Black 47 - EP Marshall Tucker Band - Long Hard Ride Kid Frost - East Side Story Coffin Break - Thirteen Steve Wariner Band - I Got Dreams
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From: kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) Subject: Re: Flaming Nazis X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of Denver for the Denver community. The University has neither control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users. Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Lines: 38 In article <1993Apr18.020655.14233@news.cs.brandeis.edu> deane@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes: >Okay, I'll bite. I should probably leave this alone, but what the heck... > >In article <1993Apr14.124301.422@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>, >gsmith@lauren.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Gene W. Smith) writes: >>In article <TT3R2B5w165w@brewich.hou.tx.us> popec@brewich.hou.tx.us >>(Pope Charles) writes: >> >>>Rhoemer was the name of the guy responsible for much of the uniforms, >>>and props used by the early Nazis in their rallies and such. >> >>The name is Roehm, not Rhoemer. And Hitler does claim that he came up >>with the Swastika business. > >But didn't he credit the actual flag design to a party member - some dentist or >other? I believe he gives such credit in Mein Kampf. > >>>He was killed in an early Nazi purge. He and many of his associates >>>were flaming homosexuals well know also for their flamboyant orgies. >> >>I have been trying to find if there is any actual evidence for this >>common assertion recently. Postings to such groups as soc.history and >>soc.culture.german has not uncovered any net.experts who could provide >>any. > >Well, I'm no expert, but all of the histories of Nazi Germany assert this. They >make reference to several scandals that occurred long before "the night of the >long knives". The impression that I got was that homosexuality in portions of >the SA was common knowledge. Also, a book (by a homosexual author whose name >escapes me at the moment) called "Homosexuals in History" asserts that Roehm >and Heines were homosexuals, as well as others in Roehm's SA circle. [Rest deleted. Can anybody out in a.p.h help out?] Find out about "the night of the brown shirts". -- =kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu | B(0-4) c- d- e++ f- g++ k(+) m r(-) s++(+) t | TSAKC= =My thoughts, my posts, my ideas, my responsibility, my beer, my pizza. OK???=