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9700 | From: 0005111312@mcimail.com (Peter Nesbitt)
Subject: Need Senate Bill numbers and House Resolution numbers
Lines: 30
Sorry for posting this here, but noone has replied to my post from the politics
side of the group.
I want to get involved in the fight to save our gun rights. But first, I need
to get a little more educated. I've been reading all the magzines and books I
can get my hands on, and sifting through hundreds of messages here in the
Internet.
I want to obtain a COMPLETE list of Senate Bill and House Resolution
names/numbers.
Can anyone tell me how/where to obtain this info? Surely there has to be a
way to obtain copies of anti-gun legislation from those *&%$#@'s in Washington.
Any help is appreciated.
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9701 | From: berger@c4west.eds.com (Damien Berger)
Subject: Saturn For Sale
Summary: 1992 Saturn SL2 5spd
Keywords: auto, saturn
Nntp-Posting-Host: molokai
Organization: EDS C4 West
Lines: 14
1992 Saturn SL2
5spd 23K miles
AC, cruise, ABS, Air Bag, Cassette, Anti Theft
Excellent
12,000/obo
Consider 85-88 4dr 5spd compact as part trade
Damien Berger
berger@ug.eds.com
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9702 | From: Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org>
Subject: conf:mideast.levant
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1483500358:000:1967
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!cpr Apr 24 14:55:00 1993
Lines: 47
From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
Subject: conf:mideast.levant
Rights of children violated by the State of Israel (selected
articles of the IV Geneva Convention of 1949)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Article 31: No physical or moral coercion shall be exercised
against protected persons, in particular to obtain information
from them or from third parties.
Article 32: The High Contracting Parties specifically agree that
each of them is prohibited from taking any measure of such a
character as to cause the physical suffering or extermination of
protected persons in their hands. This prohibition applies not
only to murder, torture, corporal punishment (...) but also to any
other measures of brutality whether applied by civilian or
military agents.
Article 33: No protected person may be punished for an offence he
or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and
likewise measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited.
Article 34: Taking of hostages is prohibited.
Article 49: Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as
deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the
territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country,
occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.
Article 50: The Occupying Power shall, with the cooperation of
the national and local authorities, facilitate the proper working
of all institutions devoted to the care and education of
children.
Article 53: Any destruction by the Occupying Power of real or
personal property belonging individually or collectively to
private persons, or to the State, or to other public authorities,
or to social or cooperative organizations, is prohibited, except
where such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by
military operations.
PS: It is obvious that violations of the above articles are also
violations of the International Convention of the Rights of the
Child.
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9703 | From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Subject: Re: Available memory to the Xserver. How to get the actual size?
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Lines: 14
In article <1965@igd.fhg.de>, pfuetz@igd.fhg.de (Matthias Pfuetzner) writes:
> Is there a possibility to determine via X protocol calls the size of
> free memory available to the Xserver?
No. Even if you could, the answer could be out of date even before you
get it (even if you grab the server, it could be taken up by buffering
user actions). You should just try to do whatever you want; a BadAlloc
error is your indication that insufficient server memory is available.
der Mouse
mouse@mcrcim.mcgill.edu
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9704 | From: ghm@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au (Geoff Miller)
Subject: Re: Ban All Firearms !
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Lines: 18
jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
> Firearms tend to fall into this low dollar/pound area.
> It would not be economic to smuggle them in. All production
> would have to be local. There are not all that many people
> who have both the skill AND motivation to assemble worthwhile
> firearms from scratch. High-ranking crime figures could
> obtain imported Uzis and such, but the average person, and
> average thug, would be lucky to get a zip-gun - and would
> pay through the nose for it.
So why did the Australian Customs Service make a public statement to
a parliamentary committee last year that weapons smuggling was a problem
which it was not able to control? Possibly criminals don't have your
grasp of economics?
Geoff Miller (g-miller@adfa.edu.au)
Computer Centre, Australian Defence Force Academy
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9705 | From: lvc@cbnews.cb.att.com (Larry Cipriani)
Subject: Re: Need Senate Bill numbers and House Resolution numbers
Organization: Ideology Busters, Inc.
Lines: 15
In article <C5u7Io.uMw@hawnews.watson.ibm.com> mjp@vnet.ibm.com (Michael J. Phelps) writes:
>
>Try the firearms archive. Larry Cipriani's instructions follow. By
>the way, thanks for the archive Larry..
There are a few bills not yet in the archive, but these are the main ones
we need to fight. And thanks to David Robinson for scanning so many of
them in for us!
The subdirectory bills are stored in was moved from "congress" to
"Congress", that is:
godiva.nectar.cs.cmu.edu:/usr0/anon/pub/firearms/politics/rkba/Congress
--
Larry Cipriani -- l.v.cipriani@att.com
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9706 | From: krouth@slee01.srl.ford.com (Kevin Routh)
Subject: F.Y.I.: ImageWriter to Windows...
Organization: Ford Motor Company Research Laboratory
Lines: 53
NNTP-Posting-Host: slee01.srl.ford.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
[ Article crossposted from comp.windows.ms ]
[ Author was Kevin Routh ]
[ Posted on 19 Apr 1993 12:35:55 GMT ]
For your information:
I hooked up my ImageWriter I to my COM1 serial port and used the C-Itoh
8510 driver in Windows 3.1. The cable I am using is a straight-thru
cable connected to a Null Modem Adapter I got at Radio Shack (catalog
#26-1496a) for $4.95. It seems to work fine with both DOS and Windows.
I used the following command in DOS
C:\DOS\mode COM1:9600,n,8,1,p
and set up the port the same way in the Windows Ports setup.
the Null Modem connections are as follows:
1 to 1
2 to 3
3 to 2
4 to 5
5 to 4
6+8 to 20
20 to 6+8
7 to 7
I printed from several applications and all seems OK.
--
Kevin C. Routh Internet: krouth@slee01.srl.ford.com
Ford Electronics IBMmail (PROFS): USFMCTMF
ELD IC Engineering
17000 Rotunda Drive, B-121 Voice mail: (313) 337-5136
Dearborn, MI 48121-6010 Facsimile: (313) 248-6244
--
Kevin C. Routh Internet: krouth@slee01.srl.ford.com
Ford Electronics IBMmail (PROFS): USFMCTMF
ELD IC Engineering
17000 Rotunda Drive, B-121 Voice mail: (313) 337-5136
Dearborn, MI 48121-6010 Facsimile: (313) 248-6244
--
Kevin C. Routh Internet: krouth@slee01.srl.ford.com
Ford Electronics IBMmail (PROFS): USFMCTMF
ELD IC Engineering
17000 Rotunda Drive, B-121 Voice mail: (313) 337-5136
Dearborn, MI 48121-6010 Facsimile: (313) 248-6244
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9707 | From: Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org>
Subject: Re: Nazi Eugenic Theories Circulated by
Nf-ID: #R:1993Apr19.223054.10273@cirrus.co:779683862:cdp:1483500351:000:2238
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!cpr Apr 21 04:44:00 1993
Lines: 42
In my postings I have made a proposal for comments and discussion.
Those who don't want to discuss its merits and drawbacks are not forced to
do so.
However I would make anybody who incites others to harm me or harass
in a personal manner, legally responsible for their deeds. I cannot
accept and will not accept threats to my personal integrity and I
urge anybody who opposes terror to refrain from direct or indriect
threats.
PS: My proposal has nothing to do with Nazi eugenics. It has to do with
the search for peace which would enable justice. I don't consider that
justice is done, when non-Jews who fled or were expelled in 1948/1967
are not permitted to return to their homeland. This can at best be called
pragmatism, a nice word for legitimizing the rule of the strong. It can
never be called justice. And peace without justice will never be peace.
It is my conviction that the situation in which a state, through the
law, attempts to discourage mixed marriages (as Israel does), is not
normal. Such a state resembles more Nazi Germany and South Africa than
Western democracies, such as the United States, in which Jews are free to
marry whom they wish and do so in the thousands. My proposal may have
drawbacks but it is meant to force anybody to anything, just to
compensate for a certain time mixed couples for the hardships tehy
endure in a society which disapproves of intermarriage.When the day
will come and Israel will become a truly civil and decmoractic society,
in which the state is not concerned with the religious or ethnic
affiliation of its constituency, such a Fund would not be needed any
more. I don't mind if Jews wish to marry Jews and keep their
traditions, why not ? But this is not the affairs of a state. Western
democracy clearly separates these domains and I am certain that
most
American Jews enjoy this fact and would not love to live in a state termed
Christian State and to have their Green cards stamped with a mark JEW.
I would ask those who are genuinely interested in an exchange of views
and personal experiencces to refrain from emotional, infantile
outbursts which might leed readers to infer that Jews who respect
Judaism are uncivilized. Such behaviour is not good for Judaism.
Elias
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9708 | From: ckincy@cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy)
Subject: Re: Pgp, PEM, and RFC's (Was: Cryptography Patents)
Nntp-Posting-Host: next4.cs.umr.edu
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla, Rolla, MO
Lines: 19
In article <1993Apr16.001321.3692@natasha.portal.com> bob@natasha.portal.com (Bob Cain) writes:
>: I hope my cynicism is misplaced here. Go ahead...I'm not afraid to
>: be wrong every once in a while. But, I have an uneasy feeling that I
>: am right. :(
>
>It is and you are wrong yet you emotionally state a bunch of crap as fact
>with a tiny disclaimer at the end. Check your facts first and grow up.
>Why is there such a strong correlation between interest in cryptography
>and immaturity I wonder.
Oh, I see, flame someone, tell them that they are immature, tell them
they are wrong, and then don't offer any proof for your assertions.
You really *are* a putz. Put up or shut up.
cpk
--
It's been 80 days. Do you know where your wallet is?
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9709 | From: gress@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (GRESS JOSEPH JOHN )
Subject: Re: With Friends Like These -- L. Neil Smith
Nntp-Posting-Host: ucsu.colorado.edu
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Lines: 33
In article <C5D05G.6xw@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca> papresco@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes:
>In article <1993Apr10.155819.18237@sco.com> allanh@sco.COM (Allan J. Heim) writes:
>>Look, if you can figure out a reliable means of keeping guns away from
>>bad people, while not interfering with good people, I think we'd all be
>>for it. The problem is, the methods we're using now don't do the trick.
>
>Don't manufacture them. Don't sell them. Don't import them.
>
>Some guns will get through, but far fewer, and far less people will
>die because of them. Hunting weapons could be allowed, of course, as
>long as they are big, and bulky, and require reloading after a few
>shots (how many times can you shoot at the same animal, anyways One
>assumes they are moving!)
>
>
First of all let's assume that you are right that fewer guns would make it
in to the country, that sounds great (to those that see guns as inherently
evil) except then every one of those guns would be in the hands of someone
who obviously couldn't care less about following the law, after all they
got the gun illegally, so is more likely to commit a crime with that gun.
Great then everyone with a gun is likely to use it in a crime, nice system.
Now as to reducing the number of guns coming into society by making it
illegal to manufacture, sell, or import them in this coutry, let me use
a parallel for empiric evidence. The amount of cocaine in this country is
far less since its manufacture, sale, and importation was out lawwed. If
that last statement is true then perhaps we should consider your plan. This
could also apply to drugs in general.
PLAIN OLD JOE
>
|
9710 | Subject: Paul Kuryia and Canadian World Team
From: apland@mala.bc.ca
Organization: Malaspina College
Lines: 6
Heard last night that Paul Kuryia will be playing for the Canadian World
Hockey team this year. He was on a local radio station when a friend of
the familty called to congratulate him on the invitation. Meekly Paul told
the host that he didn't think they wanted it out yet. This morning I heard
that he is destined to play on a line with Lindros and Recci{unsure of this
one}. If he plays well in this arena, he could go #1 or 2 in the draft.
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9711 | From: marka@hcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com (Mark Ashley)
Subject: Re: Was Jesus Black?
Organization: FL
Lines: 31
In article <Apr.24.01.08.17.1993.4217@geneva.rutgers.edu> shd2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Sherlette Dixon) writes:
>The people who post to this particular newsgroup are either too cowardly,
<...more accusations about a worldwide conspiracy against blacks.>
Since Jesus was born in the Middle East, then I expect his human
features to be similar to Middle Easterners at that point in time.
And since the camera wasn't invented yet we can only guess what
he looked like. For example, with all the dinosaur bones we're
digging up we still don't know if they were yellow-polka-dotted,
or purplish-orange 8-). Likewise, I don't think anybody has a
picture of Jesus (is there ? 8-) ) So our current image of
Jesus is our best guess.
Okay. So let's assume that Jesus is black. Would that make you
follow His techings ? Cause if you follow His teachings, skin
color becomes a moot point, anyway. What counts more in your
life ? Your faith in Jesus or His skin color (as a human) ?
In the interest of historical accuracy, however, since Jesus
was from Israel wouldn't His skin color be like any other Jew ?
i.e. fair-skinned ? Although probably heavily tanned from the
desert sun ? Experts in this area speak up !!! cause I'm not. 8-)
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marka@gcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com |
The Lost Los Angelino |
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9712 | From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn)
Subject: Re: Do it yourself front-end alignment possible?
Article-I.D.: ve6mgs.1993Apr6.200818.10500
Distribution: na
Organization: ADEC Systems Inc.
Lines: 44
davidd@lonestar.utsa.edu (David . De Leon) writes:
>In article <113364@bu.edu> selick@csa.bu.edu (Steven Selick) writes:
>>I've got an 86 Plymouth Colt that I'd like to do a front-end alignment
>>on. Is it possible to do without all of the fancy schmancy gadgets the
>>pros have? How?
>>-Steve
>NO.NO.NO.NO.
>If you do so, you are putting the lives of others on the road at consider-
>able risk. Why do you think mechanics are ASE certified?? Anyway you put
>it, you need those *fancy scmancy* gadgets...
Awww, right, you want all the home mechanics lined up against a wall and
shot eh?
Bull Pucky you chicken! Read the service manual and get your head out of the
sand! Certainly there are tools for the job that are cheaper than an alignment
rack, that do the job as competently (albeit, not as swiftly), if not
more accurate, due to the natural pride an owner/mechanic places on his work.
You can do an `acceptable' job of aligning a car using simple tools and
some imaginative work that would *never* have the effect of endangering
anyones life. The worst that happens is that your tires wear oddly (well,
you could have the wheels aiming TOTALLY pigeon toed and not be able
to steer the car, raise your hands those that think their vision is
so poor that they would screw up this badly!)
I bet you are one of those people that feels that honing a cylinder wall
with sand paper will kill millions of people. It aint magic. Go take the
certification course, and look at the people that have never learned to add
in their whole life that are taking the certification!
BTW, I am disgusted at the Colt (and some of the other Chrysler offerings)
because they go out of alignment if you sneaze at them. My '84 Chrysler
Laser (Similar to the Daytona, a reskinned Colt) needed a realignment every
3 months ... Bolt a good grade 12' 2x4 to each wheel, using a carefully welded
spacer jig. Measure toe in, adjust to manufacturer specs. Camber a bit more
difficult to adjust and measure ... I used a micrometer to measure the
space between the rim and a funky bent up pipe that could be placed on
upper and lower portions of the rim on the inside of wheel (hard to explain).
This same tool could be used instead of the 2x4s. I had made these tools up
*right* after the last alignment done professionally so I had a reference that
the original poster might not ...
Ciao -- Mark
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9713 | From: millernw@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Neal Miller)
Subject: Re: Trying to view POV files.....
Nntp-Posting-Host: craft.clarkson.edu
Organization: Clarkson University
Lines: 31
merkelbd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Brian Merkel) writes:
>In article <1993Apr11.132604.13400@ornl.gov> ednobles@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (Edward d Nobles) writes:
>>
>>I've been trying to view .tga files created in POVRAY. I have the Diamond
>>SpeedStar 24 Video board (not the _24X_). So far I can convert them to
>>jpeg using cjpeg and view them with CVIEW but that only displays 8 bit color.
>>
>>I'm looking for some way to convert and/or view them in 24 bit.
>>
>>I have UNIVESA (uvesa31.zip) and the DVPEG viewer but I don't get anything.
>>Perhaps I am not setting up UNIVESA properly? If anyone has ideas about this
>>please feel free to enlighten me...
>>
>>Just want to see the darn things in real color...
>Image Alchemy (aka alchemy) will view the TGA files that POV outputs
> and just about any other format you can think of. It will also convert
> between all these. It's shareware, so it's probably available by FTP
> somwhere out there in netland...
Yep... Alchemy works fine on my Tseng400+DAC, but I think I remember
reading that it only displays in 15-bit or so. Of course, that's still 32K
colors which is nothing to sneeze at. Use the --v flag.
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Clarkson University | - Ford Prefect | dark@craft.camp.clarkson.edu
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9714 | From: jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost)
Subject: Re: Dumbest automotive concepts of all time
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
Lines: 17
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.3.202
nancy@hayduke (Nancy Feagans) writes:
>Ashtrays and cigarette lighters. These should be an *option*.
GM, at least, is heading in that direction. One of the post-sale
questions they asked me was if I'd like the choice of a cigarette
liter or an accessory plug, and another whether I'd like the choice of
an ashtray or a cup holder.
The '93 Geo Storms have the cigarette lighter vs accessory plug option
(which did not exist in the '92 I bought) -- I'm not sure about the
ash tray vs cup holder. It's a step in the right direction.
The ashtray does make a convenient change-holder so it's not
completely useless.
jim frost
jimf@centerline.com
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9715 | From: "James J. Murawski" <jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: This Year's vs. Next Year's Playoffs
Organization: Administrative Computing & Info Services, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Lines: 37
NNTP-Posting-Host: po2.andrew.cmu.edu
Well, since someone probably wanted to know, here's this year's playoff
matchups on the left, and what the matchups would be next year under the
new alignment and playoff-matchup rules. The same 16 teams make the playoffs
under next year's rules, and three of the first round matchups are the same
(QUE-MTL, CHI-STL, VAN-WIN).
PIT --+ +-- CHI | PIT --+ +-- CHI
+---+ +---+ | +---+ +---+
NJ --+ | | +-- STL | BUF --+ | | +-- STL
+---+ +---+ | +---+ +---+
WAS --+ | | | | +-- DET | QUE --+ | | | | +-- TOR
+---+ | | +---+ | +---+ | | +---+
NYI --+ | | +-- TOR | MTL --+ | | +-- CAL
+------+ | +------+
BOS --+ | | +-- VAN | WAS --+ | | +-- VAN
+---+ | | +---+ | +---+ | | +---+
BUF --+ | | | | +-- WIN | NJ --+ | | | | +-- WIN
+---+ +---+ | +---+ +---+
QUE --+ | | +-- CAL | BOS --+ | | +-- DET
+---+ +---+ | +---+ +---+
MTL --+ +-- LA | NYI --+ +-- LA
====================================================================
Jim Murawski
Sr. Software Engineer (412) 268-2650 [office]
Administrative Computing and (412) 268-6868 [fax]
Information Services jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu
Carnegie Mellon University Office: UCC 155
4910 Forbes Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890
"Le Mieux! Le Magnifique! Soixante Six! Claude...NON!"
There are 1374 days until Clinton (Clinocchio) leaves office (1373 too many).
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9716 | From: jerry@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com (Gerald Lanza)
Subject: Re: '61 Orioles Trivia
Organization: Olivetti North America (Shelton, CT)
Lines: 20
In article <1993Apr14.190432.1706@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> paula@koufax.cv.hp.com (Paul Andresen) writes:
>In article <1993Apr13.151809.1286@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, sparky@balsa.lle.rochester.edu (Michael Mueller) writes:
>|> Hi All,
>|>
>|> Does anyone know who were the 4 pitchers for the 1961 Orioles
>|> that were referred to as the "Kiddy Corp" because they were so young?
>
>Steve Barber 22 18-12
>Chuck Estrada 23 15-9
>Jack Fisher 22 10-13
>Milt Pappas 22 13-9
>
This list brings to mind possible the worst trade since Babe for
NONO NANNETTE, i.e., Milt Pappas for Frank Robinson, I think in
1965 ?. Robinson proceeded to win the triple crown in 1966 and
may have beaten out Yaz in '67 but was injured on a slide into
second when he collided with the mighty Al Weis (Chisox).
jerry
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9717 | From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian)
Subject: Accounts of Anti-Armenian Human Right Violations in Azerbaijan #014
Summary: Prelude to Current Events in Nagorno-Karabakh
Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
Lines: 120
Accounts of Anti-Armenian Human Right Violations in Azerbaijan #014
Prelude to Current Events in Nagorno-Karabakh
+----------------------------------------------------------+
| |
| I asked, "What's going on?" He says, "What's the matter, |
| can't you see, they've overturned a car and they're |
| killing Armenians!" |
| |
+----------------------------------------------------------+
DEPOSITION OF ZAVEN ARMENAKOVICH BADASIAN
Born 1942
Employed
Sumgait Bulk Yarn Plant
Resident at Building 34, Apartment 33
Microdistrict No. 12
Sumgait [Azerbaijan]
On February 27 my wife and I went to Baku to go shopping and returned to
Sumgait at around five in the evening. We ran into one of my relatives at the
bus station and got to talking. A lot of people had gathered not far away,
near the store. Well at first we didn't know what was happening, and then a
fellow I know comes up to me, an Azerbaijani guy, and says, "What are you
standing here for? Go home immediately!" I asked, "What's going on?" He says,
"What's the matter, can't you see, they've overturned a car and they're
killing Armenians!" He helped me catch a cab and we got home safely.
We sat at home for two days. During that time a gang of bandits came into our
courtyard. But the neighbors wouldn't let them in the building. There were
about 80 of them. They had sticks and pieces of armatures in their hands. They
were shouting something, but you couldn't understand it. It wasn't one voice
or two, all of them were shouting in a chorus. They turned toward Building 35.
They went up to the third _floor, and we see that they're breaking glass and
throwing things out the window. After a while they come out the entryway: one
has a pair of jeans in his hands, another has a tape recorder, and a third a
guitar. They went on toward the auto parts store.
We had to save ourselves. After midnight on March 1 we went to hide at School
No. 33, which is in Microdistrict 13. There were two other Armenian families
there with us. There were 13 of us altogether. Out of all of them I had only
known Ernest before, he had moved to Sumgait from Kirovabad. The Azerbaijani
guard at the school let us in. At first he didn't want to, but there was
nowhere else for us to go. We had to plead with him and talk him into it. We
were told that on that day, the 1st, there would be an attack on our
microdistrict.
We went upstairs to a classroom on the second floor.
On the city radio station they announced three telephone numbers that could be
used to summon assistance or communicate anything important. I called one of
them and the First Secretary of the Sumgait City Party Committee answered. I
asked him for assistance. I say, "We're in School No. 33, we need to be
evacuated." Well he says, "Got it, wait there, I'm sending out help now."
I know his voice. The First Secretary had been to our plant, I had spoken with
him personally. When I called he said, "Muslimzade here."
About two hours after the call we heard shouts near the school. We looked out
the window and about 100 to 120 people were outside saying, "Armenians, come
out, we're here to get you." They have clubs, axes, and armature shafts in
their hands. The guard sat there with us, and asked, "Where should I go?" I
say, "If your life is of any value to you you'll go down there and say that
the Armenians were here and that they left." That's what he did. He went down
there and said, "The Armenians were here," he said, "I let them out the back
door, they went that way." And pointed with his hand. And with shouts and
noise the mob set off in the direction he had pointed.
So the assistance we had been promised did come. They sent us help, all right!
Instead of sending real soldiers he had sent his own. I am positive that
Muslimzade did that. No one had seen us entering the school, no one knew that
we were there. In any case, we stayed at the school until seven in the
morning, and no soldiers of any sort came to our aid.
In the morning we went to my relative's in Microdistrict 1, and the soldiers
took us to the SK club from there. The club was jammed with people, and there
were lots of people ahead of us--there was no space available. One small boy,
about three months old, died right in my arms. There wasn't a single doctor,
nothing. The boy was uninjured, there were no wounds or bruises on him. He was
just very ill. They gave him mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, they did everything
they could under the circumstances, but were unable to save him. And his
mother and father, a young Armenian couple, were right there, on the floor ...
I searched for a spot for us in the SK, we have a small child of our own, I
wanted to find a room or something to put my family in. I went up to the third
floor, there were a lot of soldiers up there, bandaged, with canes, limping,
with their heads broken open. They were a terrible sight. Young guys, all of
them.
There were a lot of bandaged Armenians, too. Everyone had been beaten,
everyone was crying, wailing, and calling for help. I think that the City
Party Committee ignored us completely. True, there was a snack bar: a sausage
was 30 kopeks or 40 kopeks, a package of cookies that cost 26 kopeks was being
sold for 50, a bottled soft drink cost a ruble . . . But there was no way to
get the things any cheaper.
I met my old uncle, Aram Mikhailovich, there. He saw me and tears welled up in
his eyes. My whole life he had told me that we were friendly peoples, that we
worked together, he always had Azerbaijanis over at his house. And now he saw
me and there was nothing he could say, he just cried. You can understand his
feelings, of course.
April 8, 1988
Yerevan
- - - reference - - -
[1] _The Sumgait Tragedy; Pogroms against Armenians in Soviet Azerbaijan,
Volume I, Eyewitness Accounts_, edited by Samuel Shahmuradian, forward by
Yelena Bonner, 1990, published by Aristide D. Caratzas, NY, pages 185-186
--
David Davidian dbd@urartu.sdpa.org | "Armenia has not learned a lesson in
S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies | Anatolia and has forgotten the
P.O. Box 382761 | punishment inflicted on it." 4/14/93
Cambridge, MA 02238 | -- Late Turkish President Turgut Ozal
|
9718 | From: scottj@magic.dml.georgetown.edu (John L. Scott)
Subject: Re: That silly outdated Bill (was Re: Koresh and Miranda)
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
X-Posted-From: iamac-1.dml.georgetown.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu
Lines: 86
I wrote :
Nice strawman indeed. The discussion is not about whether there were
tanks
used in sixties riots; instead, it is about whether those tanks fired
their
main guns in one of those riots. You claim they did. That claim is
ludicrous.
Awesley replied:
I repeated what I had been told, under what context I had heard it,
supporting the claim that tanks were indeed used in Detroit in 67.
The issue has never been whether tanks were used in Detroit in 1967. It
has been whether they fired their main guns. You did not merely claim that
tanks were used--you claimed that they fired their main guns to suppress
sniper fire and that they were "quite" effective at this. You continue to
back away from this claim and defend something else that nobody is
disputing.
Awesley went on:
I
spent a few minutes in a library today -- found their computer was
down and they don't have a card catalog. Anyway, it took about 10
minutes to find this in _Nightmare in Detroit, A Rebellion and It's
Victims_ by Sauter and Hines, on page 133, telling of the death of
Tonia Blanding, age 4.
"When the tank was fired upon by snipers it turned in the direction
the shots came from. [...] the fifty-caliber machine gun mounted on the
tank belched fire into the buildings. After a short round into the front
of the buildings, the tank guns spit again, tearing apart huge holes out
of the side of the apartment."
Well, it's not the main gun.
"Well, it's not the main gun." Gee, that's only the entire point. Are you
now going to admit that you were wrong?
I wrote:
will I see any pictures of tanks firing their main
guns? Will I see pictures of buildings damaged by the shells? Will I
read
the reports of the tank fire? I'll bet you dollar to doughnuts I won't.
It will take more than second-hand accounts from a few old National Guard
sergeants shooting the shit to convince me that tanks shelled American
cities in the Sixties.
Awesley replied:
Well, if you bothered to read them, it wouldn't take long at all to
find reports of tank * fire * -- although not necessarily of the main
guns.
I will never read of tanks firing their main guns in Detroit in the '67
riots. There is simply no way that such an event could have taken place
without it being common knowledge even 26 years later. The American
military firing shells from tanks in American cities on blacks would have
been *big* news.
Awesley goes on:
You can also read of the troops using grenade launchers.
To fire fragmentary grenades? I doubt that as well. To fire concussion
grenades? Perhaps. To fire tear gas? Certainly. But you would be
perfectly willing to let us believe they fired frags, wouldn't you, since
it makes your other claim seem more plausible.
And on:
I don't
expect to convince you; you'll have to open your mind and eyes and
actually
do a little research to be convinced one way or the other. Let me know
what you find.
I already know what you found: nothing. If I claimed that the Marines used
F-4s to launch rockets at buildings in Trenton, New Jersey would you
believe me? Would you suspend judgment until you had a chance to research
it? Or would your bullshit filters kick in?
If tanks had fired their main guns in Detroit, people would have been
screaming about it for the past two and half decades. I would know about
it. Unless you also claim that the National Guard managed to cover it up.
If your mind is open enough to believe that, well, good for you. I prefer
to live in reality. And here in reality, I find it hard to believe that
those tanks even had any shells, much less fired them.
--John L. Scott
|
9719 | From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: Menangitis question
Article-I.D.: pitt.19439
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 42
In article <C4nzn6.Mzx@crdnns.crd.ge.com> brooksby@brigham.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Glen W Brooksby) writes:
>This past weekend a friend of mine lost his 13 month old
>daughter in a matter of hours to a form of menangitis. The
>person informing me called it 'Nicereal Meningicocis' (sp?).
>In retrospect, the disease struck her probably sometime on
>Friday evening and she passed away about 2:30pm on Saturday.
>The symptoms seemed to be a rash that started small and
>then began progressing rapidly. She began turning blue
>eventually which was the tip-off that this was serious
>but by that time it was too late (this is all second hand info.).
>
>My question is:
>Is this an unusual form of Menangitis? How is it transmitted?
>How does it work (ie. how does it kill so quickly)?
>
No, the neiseria meningococcus is one of the most common
forms of meningitis. It's the one that sometimes sweeps
schools or boot camp. It is contagious and kills by attacking
the covering of the brain, causing the blood vessels to thrombose
and the brain to swell up.
It is very treatable if caught in time. There isn't much time,
however. The rash is the tip off. Infants are very susceptible
to dying from bacterial meningitis. Any infant with a fever who
becomes stiff or lethargic needs to be rushed to a hospital where
a spinal tap will show if they have meningitis. Seizures can also
occur.
>Immediate family members were told to take some kind of medication
>to prevent them from being carriers, yet they didn't have
>any concerns about my wife and I coming to visit them.
>
It can live in the throat of carriers. Don't worry, you won't get
it from them, especially if they took the medication.
--
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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|
9720 | From: dwarner@journalism.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Why Spanky?
Nntp-Posting-Host: clove.journalism.indiana.edu
Reply-To: dwarner@journalism.indiana.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Lines: 37
Sherri Nichols writes
> In article <1ql93bINN1s5@postoffice1.psc.edu> boone@psc.edu (Jon Boone)
writes:
> > Spanky is too slow! If he were quicker, he would still be here.
> >But with Slaught and Tom Prince, they didn't want to lose Prince in order
> >to bring up that 11th pitcher. Slaught is about as good as Spanky and
> >Prince is coming along nicely!
>
> Tom Prince is a 28 year old no-hit catcher. Think of him as a young Dann
> Bilardello.
Or a young Don Bordello...
> I can't begin to fathom why the Pirates have been so afraid of
> losing this guy, who's been in AAA most of the last 5 seasons. The Pirates
> released Kirk Gibson last year because Prince was out of options, then
> eventually sent Prince down anyway, and he cleared waivers without a peep.
> He's another year older, and still can't hit; why do they think he wouldn't
> clear waivers now? Why would they care?
There's a strong possibility that the Bucs have absolutely no other catching
prospects in the minors at this point -- at least nobody ready for any serious
AAA/majors duty. The main reason they might have stayed with Prince could be
just age, especially if Spanky was creeping toward his mid-30s or something.
All things considered, though, I'd be a lot more comfortable with Spanky behind
the plate than Prince. Isn't there decent backup backstop out there looking
for work?
> Sherri Nichols
> snichols@adobe.com
--
David J.(dwarner@journalism.indiana.edu)*****Blue Riddle Productions 1993
*-------------------------------It's on.--------------------------------*
***"THE RAP IS AN ART EP" is coming out on tape -- this time for real.***
*------------------------E-mail me for the 411.-------------------------*
|
9721 | From: jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni)
Subject: Re: Gaza and separation from Israel
Organization: The Department of Redundancy Department
Lines: 33
In article <1483500357@igc.apc.org> Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:
>The Israeli Left's inability to cope with the challenges it is
>presented with by reality becomes obvious at those moments when
>the reality does not line up with the expectations of the left. We
>were able to see this clearly during the Gulf War. Because of the
>Palestinian's popular solidarity with Iraq, Yossi Sarid -
>currently Minister of the Environment - made his infamous
>statement: "You look for me !", i.e., I'am not making any more
>efforts to speak with you. From Yossi Sarid's point of view,
>Palestinian reality during the Gulf War was not the lengthy curfew
>or the danger of hunger it brought with it, but whether or not the
>Palestinians accepted what was acceptable to the party. Similarly
>MERETZ, MK Deddi Tzuker, recently faced with criticism from
>residents of the West Bank town of Beit Sahour over his
>government's and his party's lack of action for human rights and
>peace, responded by asking those present at the discussion whether
>they would rather have a Likud government. From the Leftists'
>perspective this is the best government because it is THEIR
>government, regardless of what it does.
>
>These members of the Israeli Left have already decided how the
>future of the Occupied Territories will look, and they want to
>dictate to the Palestinians how to get there.
When someone starts criticizing the Leftists for not being Leftist
enough, we get a pretty clear idea of what they believe to be normal.
I hope that your not still calling yourself fair and unbiased, Elias.
--
Jake Livni jake@bony1.bony.com Ten years from now, George Bush will
American-Occupied New York have replaced Jimmy Carter as the
My opinions only - employer has no opinions. standard of a failed President.
|
9722 | From: probulf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Frank Probul)
Subject: Re: Position of 'b' on Erg. Keyboard
Originator: probulf@hphalle2i.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Lines: 27
In article <1993Apr6.134746.11972@daimi.aau.dk>, viralbus@daimi.aau.dk (Thomas Martin Widmann) writes:
|> So far I have only seen pictures of the new ergonomic keyboard,
|> but it seems that the 'b' is placed on the left part after the split.
|> However, when I learned typing in school some years ago, I was taught
|> to write 'b' with my right hand. Is this a difference between Danish
|> and American typing, or what???
|>
|> Thanks a lot in advance!
|>
In germany you usually use the left hand for the 'b'
yours
Frankie
--
---------------------------------------------
Frank Probul
Emanuelstr. 17, D-8000 Munich 40, Germany
AppleLink: Probul.F@AppleLink.Apple.COM
internet: probulf@informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Munich University of Technology
Department of Computer Science
Germany
---------------------------------------------
|
9723 | From: nrp@st-andrews.ac.uk (Norman R. Paterson)
Subject: Re: Had to share this
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.
Lines: 66
In article <1993Apr03.232325.23178@acme.gen.nz> kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
>bena@dec07.cs.monash.edu.au (Ben Aveling) writes:
>
>> Warning - if you are anything like a devout Christian this post is
>> really going to offend and/or upset you.
>
>[...numerous Ctrl-Ls deleted...hehehe...]
>
>> I assume everyone here is familiar with the Christian `fish' symbol.
>> The one on the back of all those Volvos.
>> The one that looks (something) like
>> __
>> / \/
>> \__/\
>>
>> Or perhaps more like () ?
>> '`
>>
>> Well, I found out this morning where it comes from ...
>>
>> It's been stolen from the pagans, like so much else ...
>>
>> (Last last chance to be blisfully ignorant ;-]
>>
>> Hmm, how can I put it.
>>
>> Well, it comes from, this ...
>>
>>
>>
>> __
>> \/
>> ()
>> `__-'`-__'
>>
>>
>>
>> Sigh, I hate drawing with ascii chars.
>> Still, I think you can work it out from there ...
>
>If you haven't, go read "Skinny Legs and All" by Tom Robbins. If he's even
>50% accurate then most of the modern religions have been "appropriated".
>It's also a great book.
>
>Followups to alt.atheism, whose readers are probably slightly more authorative
>on this.
>
> - k
>--
>Craig Harding kilroy@acme.gen.nz ACME BBS +64 6 3551342
>"Jub'er lbh pnyyvat n obmb?"
Craig-
I thought it was derived from a Greek acronym. My Greek isn't up to much, but
it goes something like this:
Jesus Christ, God => Iesus CHristos, THeos => Ichthos
which is the Greek for "fish" (as in, eg "ichthysaurus").
Apologies for my dreadful Greek! Perhaps someone will correct it.
By the way, what does your sig mean?
-Norman
|
9724 | From: zaphod@madnix.uucp (Ron Bean)
Subject: Re: RFI: Art of clutchless shifting
Organization: ARP Software
Lines: 30
jong@halcyon.com (Barking Weasel) writes:
>schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov writes:
>>My technique is to ease back off the throttle and at the same time gently
>>wrist back on the shift lever. If for some reason I miss the shift window,
>>I lightly press the accelerator & try agian. I've found that clutchless
>>shifting is eaiser/quicker at high rpms (4000-7000). I also skip gears some
>>times using 1-3-5 ,1-2-4-5.
>
> Sounds about right. I usually slip it out during throttle-down
>and then blip the throttle and wait until it feels like things are right
>(usually about a second) and then slip it into gear...
So, how did you guys *learn* this? Is it something you were
born with, or did you make horrible grinding noises the first few
times? (how many times?)
I would think you'd have to have a certain amount of "feel"
for it to begin with. Some people would never get it, and others
(like me) would never have the guts to try it, unless maybe you
were planning to buy a new transmission anyway...
(BTW, I've heard that quite a few truckers and race car
drivers shift this way).
==================
zaphod@madnix.UUCP (Ron Bean)
uwvax!astroatc!nicmad!madnix!zaphod
|
9725 | From: goltz@mimi.UU.NET (James P. Goltz)
Subject: Orion drive in vacuum -- how?
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA, USA
Lines: 31
NNTP-Posting-Host: mimi.uu.net
Background: The Orion spacedrive was a theoretical concept. It
would be a drive using thermonuclear explosions to drive a spacecraft.
The idea was that you'd detonate devices with somewhere from one to
ten megatons yield behind a "pusher plate" attached to the main
spacecraft. The shock wave from the explosions would transfer
momentum to the ship.
Now, in an atmosphere I can see this. The energy of the explosion
heats the atmosphere, which expands explosively and slams a shock wave
into the pusher plate. But in a vacuum, only two things I can see are
going to hit the plate: fission/fusion products (barium, krypton,
helium, neutrons, evaporated bomb casing) and electromagnetic
radiation (gammas mostly, some light/heat from irradiated fission
products).
Would this work? I can't see the EM radiation impelling very much
momentum (especially given the mass of the pusher plate), and it seems
to me you're going to get more momentum transfer throwing the bombs
out the back of the ship than you get from detonating them once
they're there.
I must be missing something. Would someone enlighten me via email?
Thanks.
--
--Jim
---
Jim Goltz AlterNet Engineer goltz@uunet.uu.net
|
9726 | From: stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber)
Subject: ESPN, the network with a heart...
Keywords: NOT!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Lines: 22
Dale Hunter ties the game, scoring his third goal of the game
with 2.7 seconds remaining in regulation.
You could feel it coming on.
"Due to contractual agreements, ESPN will be unable to carry
the rest of this game live, so that we may show you a worthless
early-season battle between those two pennant contenders, the
Cleveland Indians and the California Angels. When the winning
goal is scored, we WILL do the grave injustice of breaking into the
baseball game -- something reserved only for the deaths of Presidents
or the trading of Joe Montana to the Chiefs -- to show you the
goal on instant replay.
"Aren't you SO lucky to have national coverage of hockey?"
It's HEIDI all over again, dammit!
Kevin L. Stamber
Purdue University
PENGUINS 7, DEVILS 0 -- ROLL TRAIN, ROLL!
|
9727 | From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Subject: Re: Slavery (was Re: Why is sex only allowed in marriage: ...)
Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau
Lines: 16
In article <1993Apr14.132813.16343@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>,
darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) wrote:
> Anyhow, on the basis of the apparent success of Islamic banks, it seems
> to me that the statement that a zero-interest economy cannot survive in
> today's world may be a bit premature.
I'm sure zero-intested economical systems survive on a small-scale,
co-ops is not an Islamic invention, and we have co-operatives working
all around the world. However such systems don't stand the corruption
of a large scale operation. Actually, nothing could handle human
greed, IMHO. Not even Allah :-).
Cheers,
Kent
---
sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
|
9728 | From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: Ban All Firearms !
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Distribution: usa
Lines: 30
As quoted from <C5J5IM.3C9@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> by rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Morris the Cat):
>
> | Firearms tend to fall into this low dollar/pound area.
> | It would not be economic to smuggle them in. All production
> | would have to be local. There are not all that many people
> | who have both the skill AND motivation to assemble worthwhile
> | firearms from scratch. High-ranking crime figures could
> | obtain imported Uzis and such, but the average person, and
> | average thug, would be lucky to get a zip-gun - and would
> | pay through the nose for it.
>
> This is not borne out of reality; the old Soviet Union had a very
> serious domestic handgun and submachinegun trade, guns that were
> of commercial grade because they were produced in honest-to-goodness
> machineshops. Why would all production have to be local; don't we
> have a road system that is the envy of the world?
>
If anybody wanted proof of the nonsense of the "you can't build guns" claim,
they need look no farther than the Philippines. Amateur gunsmiths there
regularly produce everything from .45 automatics to full auto shotguns. Now
if this guy wants to claim that the Philippines is either technologically
superior to the US or that their transportation is better than ours, all I
can say is that he's living in a fantasy world.
--
===================================================================
"You're like a bunch of over-educated, New York jewish ACLU lawyers
fighting to eliminate school prayer from the public schools in
Arkansas" - Holly Silva
|
9729 | From: Steve.Hayes@f22.n7101.z5.fidonet.org
Subject: Pantheism & Environmentalism
Lines: 51
09 Apr 93, Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik writes to All:
>> "We suspect that's because one party to the (environmental)
>> dispute thinks the Earth is sanctified. It's clear that much
>> of the environmentalist energy is derived from what has been
>> called the Religious Left, a SECULAR, or even PAGAN fanaticism
>> that now WORSHIPS such GODS as nature and gender with a
>> reverence formerly accorded real religions." (EMPHASIS MINE).
SHK> First of all, secular and pagan are not synonyms. Pagan, which is
SHK> derived from the latin paganus, means "of the country." It is, in
SHK> fact, a cognate with the Italian paisano, which means peasant.
SHK> Paganism, among other things, includes a reverence for the planet and
SHK> all life on the planet -- stemming from the belief that all life is
SHK> interconnected. So, rather than be something secular, it is something
SHK> very sacred.
I would go further, and say that much of the damage to the environment
has been caused by the secular worldview, or by the humanist
worldview, and especially by the secular humanist worldview.
This is not to say that ALL secular humanists are necessarily avid
destroyers of the environment, and I am sure that there are many who
are concerned about the environment. But at the time of the
Renaissance and Ref ormation in Western Europe man became the centre,
or the focus of culture (hence "humanism"). This consciousness was
also secular, in the sense that it was concerned primarily with the
present age, r ather than the age to come. Capitalism arose at the
same time, and the power of economics became central in philosophy.
This doesn't mean that economics did not exist before, simply that it
began to dominate the conscious cultural values of Western European
society and its offshoots. This cultural shift was, in its later
stages, accompanied by industrial revolutions and the values that
justified
them.
There was a fundamental cultural shift in the meaning of "economics" -
from the Christian view of man as the economos, the steward, of
creation to the secular idea of man as the slave of economic forces
and powers. There were denominational differences among the new
worshippers of Mammon. For some the name of the deity was "the free
rein of the market mechanism", while for others it was "the
dialectical forces of history". But in both the capitalist West and
the socialist East the environment was sacrificed on the altar of
Mammon. The situation was mitigated in the West because thos e who
were concerned about the damage to the environment had more freedom to
oppose what was happening and state their case.
Steve
--- GoldED 2.40
|
9730 | From: absgh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (G Hunt)
Subject: Windows for WorkGroups and LAN Workplace
Organization: School of Architecture, University of Bath, UK
Lines: 19
This may be a simple question but:
We have a number of PC's which we use to link to a mainframe using
Novell LAN WorkPlace for DOS (via WIndows 3.1).
Now, to make life easier for us we are thinking of using Windows for
Workgroups to allow file sharing across our PC network.
Now does anyone know if it is possible to use W4WG and Lan Workplace
for DOS at the same time.
ie Can I access a file on another PC while being logged on to the
mainframe at the same time, simultaneously.
Any help well appreciated.
Gary Hunt.
Centre for Advanced Studies in Architecture
University of Bath
absgh@gdr.bath.ac.uk
|
9731 | From: adams@bellini.berkeley.edu (Adam L. Schwartz)
Subject: Danny Rubenstein Talk
Nntp-Posting-Host: bellini.berkeley.edu
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Lines: 9
Danny Rubenstein, an Israeli journalist, will be speaking tonight
(Wednesday, 7:30 pm) on the messy subject of politics in Israel.
He is speaking at Hillel on the U.C. Berkeley campus. The talk is
sponsored by the Berkeley Israel Action Committee (IAC).
-Adam Schwartz
adams@robotics.berkeley.edu
|
9732 | Subject: Re: Ancient islamic rituals
From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
Organization: sgi
NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com
Lines: 20
In article <1993Apr3.081052.11292@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) writes:
>
> I propose that these two trends -- greater level of general
> depression in society (and other psychological problems) and
> greater sexual promiscuity -- are linked, with the latter being
> a prime cause of the former. I cannot provide any evidence beyond
> this at this stage, but the whole thesis seems very reasonable to
> me and I request that people ponder upon it.
I pondered it for all of ten seconds when I realised that since
we don't have any reliable statistics for sexual promiscuity,
and since the whole issue of "depression" isn't at all well
defined for earlier centuries, you are probably talking crap.
Of course, you could pull a Mozumder on us, and say that people
who are having sex outside marriage are *defined* to be depressed.
I can't say I'd ever noticed, myself.
jon.
|
9733 | From: cheong@solomon.technet.sg (SCSTECH admin)
Subject: Getting Pseudo TTY in X/Motif
Nntp-Posting-Host: solomon.technet.sg
Organization: TECHNET, Singapore
Lines: 16
Hi,
I am about to write an application in X/Motif that will require the
embedding of a pseudo tty. So, before I re-invent the wheel, has anyone
written/gotten a motif widget that does the job ? Otherwise, I would
appreciate any pointers to make such a beast.
My environment is X11R4/Motif 1.1 and X11R5/Motif 1.2 (if this helps).
Thanks in advance.
Arthur Lim
Email : arthur@mailhost.scs.com.sg
|
9734 | From: jung@rz.tu-ilmenau.de (Dirk Junghanns)
Subject: W86C451, W86C456 info wanted
Nntp-Posting-Host: dali.rz.tu-ilmenau.de
Reply-To: jung@rz.tu-ilmenau.de (Dirk Junghanns)
Organization: Technische Universitaet Ilmenau
Lines: 12
Does anybody have informations about the
W 86 C 451 and W 86 C 456 chips (40pin DIL pckg)?
They are build in a multifunction io-card for pc.
Thanks
Dirk
--
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Dirk Junghanns junghanns@rz.tu-ilmenau.de
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|
9735 | From: pgf@srl03.cacs.usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: na
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holland@CS.ColoState.EDU (douglas craig holland) writes:
> With E-Mail, if they can't break your PGP encryption, they'll just
>call up one of their TEMPEST trucks and read the electromagnetic emmisions
>from your computer or terminal. Note that measures to protect yourself from
>TEMPEST surveillance are still classified, as far as I know.
1. I don't think they are classified.
2. I could independently invent about half a dozen right off
the top of my head. If I had studied Advanced E & M a little better,
I could probably come up with a _very_ good system.
...
> If the new regime comes to fruition, make sure you protect your First
>Amendment rights by asserting your Second Amendment Rights.
> Doug Holland
--
Phil Fraering |"Seems like every day we find out all sorts of stuff.
pgf@srl02.cacs.usl.edu|Like how the ancient Mayans had televison." Repo Man
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9736 | From: smisra@eos.ncsu.edu (SAURABH MISRA)
Subject: Ethernet to LocalTalk On a Quadra?
Article-I.D.: ncsu.1993Apr6.135521.22501
Distribution: na
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
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I have used both my serial ports with a modem and a serial printer,
so I cannot use Appletalk. Is there a Ethernet to Localtalk hardware
that will let me use the Ethernet port on my Q700 as a Localtalk
port. Until they come out with
satellite dishes that sit on your window & give you internet access
from your home, I won't at all be using that port.
Saurabh.
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9737 | From: speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer)
Subject: Re: Ok, So I was a little hasty...
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
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In article <1993Apr20.010734.18225@megatek.com> randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes:
>In article <speedy.155@engr.latech.edu> speedy@engr.latech.edu (Speedy Mercer) writes:
>|In article <jnmoyne-190493111630@moustic.lbl.gov> jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne) writes:
>|> What does "DWI" stand for ? I thought it was "DUI" for Driving Under
>|>Influence, so here what does W stand for ?
>|
>|Driving While Intoxicated.
> Actually, I beleive "DWI" normally means "Driving While Impaired" rather
>than "Intoxicated", at least it does in the states I've lived in...
>|This was changed here in Louisiana when a girl went to court and won her
>|case by claiming to be stoned on pot, NOT intoxicated on liquor!
> One can be imparied without necessarily being impaired by liquor - drugs,
>not enough sleep, being a total moron :-), all can impair someone etc... I'm
>surprised this got her off the hook... Perhaps DWI in Lousiana *is* confined
>to liquor?
Lets just say it is DUI here now!
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Stolen Taglines...
* God is real, unless declared integer. *
* I came, I saw, I deleted all your files. *
* Black holes are where God is dividing by zero. *
* The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out. *
* Earth is 98% full.... please delete anyone you can. *
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9738 | From: ph12hucg@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (Carsten Grammes)
Subject: **** WANNA SEX !!! ****
Organization: Universitaet des Saarlandes,Rechenzentrum
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Hello,
you're not quite sure if that's a joke or not? Anyway you read the article!
--> You're right!!!
(1. The header (only this) IS a joke, 2. it's worth reading)
Perhaps some of you know my regular 'List of IDE Harddisk specs' where I
give all available information about IDE Harddrives. I am strongly
interested in contacting the manufacturers directly. But I have no money
for overseas calls, so I need
HARDDISK MANUFACTURER's EMAIL ADDRESSES
Please help if you can!
Carsten.
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Carsten Grammes Internet: ph12hucg@rz.uni-sb.de
Experimental Physics Voicenet: 49-681-302-3032
Universitaet Saarbruecken Faxnet : 49-681-302-4316
6600 Saarbruecken
Germany
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9739 | From: lovall@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Daniel L. Lovall)
Subject: Re: Cannibalism was Albert Sabin
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department
Lines: 49
In article <zxmkr08.733955549@studserv> zxmkr08@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (C
ornelius Krasel) writes:
>In <f1q4yUc@quack.kfu.com> pharvey@quack.kfu.com (Paul Harvey) writes:
>
>>In article <1pk2d0$7q1@access.digex.net>
>>huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>>>In article <f1n#0EP@quack.kfu.com> pharvey@quack.kfu.com (Paul Harvey) writes
:
>>>}Do you have any examples of ritual cannibalism, particulary amongst the
>>>}primates?
>>>Why the "ritual" qualifier?
>
>>I was thinking of instances were a particular food or foods or drinks
>>are used to symbolize or ritualize cannibalism. Do you know of any human
>>cultures that have this type of mythology? For example, where one might
>>eat a food as representative of the body of a god, thus ritualized
>>cannibalism in the absence of the original.
>
>I know of ritual cannibalism among tribes in Papua-Neuguinea (?).
>They used to eat the brain of killed opponents. Sometimes these brains
>contained infectious agents which lead to a disease called "Kuru".
>Since cannibalism was banished by the government, the number of Kuru
>cases has dropped sharply.
>
Oh, yeah? Well---*I* know of ....
Anyways, cannibalism is much more commmon than those who feel that it is wrong
(and then point out that the fact that western civilisation doesn't do it is
PROOF positive that we are more advanced) would have us believe. Cannibalism
is often used in funeral ceremonies as a way of keeping the deceased loved one
alive. Many other cultures (including many American Indian cultures) eat/ate
the flesh of slain enemies, often as a way of showing respect for the valor of
the departed. Hearts are often favored for this, as it contains the spirit.
Have you ever read or seen "Alive", which is the story of the Argentinian boys
soccer team that crashed in the Andes and then ate the bodies of those who died
in order to survive? Finger lickin good. How about the Twighlight Zone
episode "To Serve Man"?
If you want more info on this, a good place to start is on sci.anthropology
Now send me $20 and eat my flesh,
Dan
lovall@physics.purdue.edu
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9740 | From: hendersond@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Doug Henderson)
Subject: Kaypro 286 jumper settings
Lines: 16
I received a Kaypro 286i computer (DOS) without a manual that
describes the jumpers on the motherboard. It came with
640KB and I up'd it to 1MB. But the computer or setup does not
recognize the extra 384K.
Does anyone know if this computer is capable of greater than 640K
on the main board and what jumpers are required to expand it to 1MB?
Some specs:
Kaypro main board assy number 81-621
Phoenix BIOS v1.51 1985
Thanks in advance,
Doug
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9741 | From: shaig@Think.COM (Shai Guday)
Subject: Re: rejoinder. Questions to Israelis
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
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Distribution: world
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In article <1483500352@igc.apc.org>, Center for Policy Research <cpr@igc.apc.org> writes:
|>
|> From: Center for Policy Research <cpr>
|> Subject: rejoinder. Questions to Israelis
|>
|>
|> To: shaig@Think.COM
|>
|> Subject: Ten questions to Israelis
|>
|> Dear Shai,
|>
|> In the answer to my first question, concerning the nonexistence of
|> Israeli nationality, your answer conflicts with information I have
|> received from other quarters, according to which there are two
|> distinct categories of classifying Israelis: Citizenship
|> (Ezrahut) and Nationality (Le'um). The former is used on passports
|> etc, and the later for daily identification in Israeli society. I
|> am told that people in Israel have to carry their ID cards at all
|> times and present them at many public places, almost every day.
|> These ID cards make clear who the holder is, a Jew or an Arab.
|> You maintain that this mainly because of religious services
|> provided. But do you really believe that this is the reason ?
|> Could you provide evidence that this is the case and that it
|> serves no other purpose ?
A number of points. You are making assumptions about the manner
in which the cards are used. True, by law, all residents, citizens,
and tourists must carry a form of identification with them. For
citizens, the standard ID is the ID card. The purpose this serves
on a daily basis, wherein they are presented at public places,
is for the purpose of identifying the bearer. This takes place
in banks (cashing checks), post offices (registered mail and such), etc...
Quite frankly, it was rare that I ever had to present my ID card
for such activities more than once per week. There is no law or
requirement that forces people to wave their ID cards in public.
Furthermore, none of the services I outlined discriminate against
the bearer in any manner by having access to this information.
The only case that I can think of in which the Le'um field might
be taken into account is during interaction with the police,
based upon the scenario. In general though, arab citizens are
clearly recognizable, as are non-arabs. Your argument therefore
becomes moot unless you can provide an example of how this field
is being used to discriminate against them officially.
|> In the answer to my second questions, concerning the fact that
|> Israel has no fixed borders, you state that Israel's borders were
|> 'shaped and reshaped by both war and peace'. According to what I
|> read, the first Zionists in the beginning of the Century, had
|> plans for the Jewish State to extend into what is Lebanon and into
|> Transjordan (Jordan). I also read that it was the express wish of
|> Ben-Gurion to not declare Israel's borders, when Israel was
|> established, as this might restrict Israel's opportunities for
|> later expansion. Israel often claims it right of existence on the
|> fact that Jews lived there 2000 years ago or that God promised the
|> land to them. But according to biblical sources, the area God
|> promised would extend all the way to Iraq. And what were the
|> borders in biblical times which Israel considers proper to use
|> today ? Finally, if Israel wants peace, why can't it declare what
|> it considers its legitimate and secure borders, which might be a
|> base for negotiations? Having all the above facts in mind, one
|> cannot blame Arab countries to fear Israeli expansionism, as a
|> number of wars have proved (1948, 1956, 1967, 1982).
I take issue with your assertions. I think that Arab countries
do know that they have nothing to fear from "Israeli expansionism".
Militarily, Israel is not capable of holding onto large tracts of
land under occupation to a hostile, armed, and insurgent population for a
sustained period of time. As is, the intifada is heavily taxing
the Israeli economy. Proof of this can be seen in the Israeli
withdrawal from Lebanon. Israeli troops pulled back from the
Awali, and later from the Litani, in order to control the minimal
strip needed to keep towns out of range of Katyusha missile fire.
Public opinion in Israel has turned towards settling the intifada
via territorial concessions. The Israel public is sufferring from
battle fatigue of sorts and the gov't is aware of it.
With regards to borders, let me state the following. I may not agree
with the manner in which negotiations are being held, however the crux
of the matter is that everyone either makes or refrains from stating
a starting position. The arab parties have called for total withdrawal
and a return to pre-48 borders. If Israel were to state large borders,
the negotiations might never get under way. If Israel were to state
smaller borders, then the arab countries might try and force even smaller
borders during the negotiations. I think that leaving the matter to be
settled by negotiations and peace treaties is infinitely more realistic
and sensible.
|> Your answer to my third question is typical of a Stalinist public
|> official. I don't think your answer is honest. You refer me to
|> Vanunu's revelations about Israel's nuclear arsenal without
|> evaluating the truthfullness of his revelations. Now if he said
|> the truth, then why should he been punished, and if he lied, why
|> should he be punished? I would appreciate more honesty.
Your statement is typical of the simple minded naivety of a "center for
policy research". Whether or not all of Vanunu's revelations were true has no
bearing on the fact that some were. For disclosing "state secrets"
after having signed contracts and forms with the understanding that
said secrets are not to be made public, one should be punished.
As to which were and which weren't, I am under no moral obligation
to disclose that - quite the reverse in fact.
He was taken to court, tried, and found guilty. You may take issue
with a number of things but clearly you have no understanding of the
concept of "Secrets of state", something which every democratic govt
has.
|> Somebody provided an answer to the fourth question, concerning
|> 'hidden prisoners' in Israeli prisons. He posted an article from
|> Ma'ariv documenting such cases. It seems that such prisoners do
|> exist in Israel. What do you think about that ?
I noticed that he was documenting the fact that such prisoners could exist
more than he documented the fact that they do exist. The CLU noted,
which you evidently did not pay attention to, that they know of no such
reports or cases. I am sorry to tell you but in a country of 4 mill,
as tightly knit as Israel, even if the matter of the arrest was not
made public, within a relatively short time frame, most people would know
about it. My own feelings are that the matter of the arrest should be
made public unless a court order is issued allowing a delay of X hours.
This would be granted only if a judge could be convinced that an
announcement would cause irreparable harm to the ongoing investigation.
|> You imply that my questions show bias and are formulated in such a
|> way to 'cast aspersions upon Israel'. Such terms have often been
|> used by the Soviet Union against dissidents: They call the Soviet
|> Union into disrepute. If my questions are not disturbing, they
|> would not call forth such hysterical answers. My questions are
|> clearly provocative but they are meant to seek facts. I would be
|> very happy if you could convince me that what I am told about
|> Israel were just fabrications, but alas you have failed to do so.
|> I suspect that you fear the truth and an open and honest
|> discussion. This is a sign of weakness, not of strength.
Well, I am sorry to say that your questions are slanted. Such
questions are often termed "tabloid journalism" and are not
disturbing because they avoid any attempt at objectivity.
Such questions were often used during the McCarthy era as
a basis for the witch-hunts that took place then. To use
your own example, these questions might have been lifted
from the format used by Stalinist prosecutors that were looking
for small bits of evidence that they could distort and portray
as a larger and dirtier picture.
My answers were not any more "hysterical" than the questions
themselves. The problem is not that the q's were provocative,
it was that they were selective in their fact seeking. You
fall into the same category of those who seek "yes" "no" answers
when the real answer is "of sorts".
I suspect that as long as the answers to these questions is not an
unequivocal NO, you would remain unsatified and choose to interprete
them as you see fit. A sign of strength is the ability to look
You remind me of those mistaken environmentalists who once advocated
culling wolves because of the cruelty to deer, only to find that they
had broken the food chain and wreaked havoc upon the very environment
they sought to protect. The color blindness you exhibit is a true
sign of weakness.
|> I hope you will muster the courage to seek the full truth.
Ditto.
--
Shai Guday | Stealth bombers,
OS Software Engineer |
Thinking Machines Corp. | the winged ninja of the skies.
Cambridge, MA |
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9742 | From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Re: Kawasaki 440 AE for sale.
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA
Lines: 6
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
Included in thas sale is a Cover . THe cover is not sold separately.
The trailer is not being sold.
pat
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9743 | From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: Need Info on RSD
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 13
In article <1993Mar27.004627.21258@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM> lrd@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM writes:
>I just started working for a rehabilitation hospital and have seen RSD
>come up as a diagnosis several times. What exactly is RSD and what is
>the nature of it? If there is a FAQ on this subject, I'd really
>appreciate it if someone would mail it to me. While any and all
Reflex sympathetic dystrophy. I'm sure there's an FAQ, as I have
made at least 10 answers to questions on it in the last year or so.
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geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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|
9744 | From: ashok@biochemistry.cwru.edu (Ashok Aiyar)
Subject: Re: Trumpet for Windows & other news readers
Organization: CWRU School of Medicine
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In article <1993Apr21.082430@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be> wimvh@liris.tew.kuleuven.ac.be (Wim Van Holder) writes:
>What the status of Trumpet for Windows? Will it use the Windows sockets ?
>I liked it in DOS but had to abandon it since I started using NDIS to access
>our token ring (results in invalid class error :(
While I do not speak for Peter Tattam, I am fairly sure he is planning a
Winsock compliant version. While this will definitely not make the initial
public release of WinTrumpet, it will follow on shortly thereafter.
Currently WinTrumpet is in very late beta. It looks like an excellent
product, with several features beyond the DOS version.
WinTrumpet supports the Trumpet TCP, Novell LWP, and there is also a direct to
packet driver version that some people are using with the dis_pkt shim.
Ashok
--
Ashok Aiyar Mail: ashok@biochemistry.cwru.edu
Department of Biochemistry Tel: (216) 368-3300
CWRU School of Medicine, Cleveland, Ohio Fax: (216) 368-4544
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9745 | From: jchen@wind.bellcore.com (Jason Chen)
Subject: Please Help with Purchasing a 486
Nntp-Posting-Host: wind.bellcore.com
Reply-To: jchen@ctt.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Lines: 47
The last time I was in microprocessor lab was in 1980, using Z-80.
So I don't know a lot of buzz terms in PC hardware.
Now I need to purchase a 486, help me to ask the right questions.
Motherboard:
I need 486-33 with 8 MB ram, with additonal slot for 8 more MB.
I would like to get two VESA Local Bus. One for video, not sure
what am I going to do with the other.
It must be able to run Unix.
What are other questions that I should ask to ensure getting a
quality stuff? What are other important features ?
Monitor:
I want a 14" non interlaced svga, but not sure about what brand
to get. I can't afford NEC or SONY. What brands should I consider?
Acer? Touch?
What else should I ask?
Video Card:
I would like to run Framemaker. So I need a fast video card. Is Western
Digital worth the $20 over Cirrus Logic? Do I need more than 1M of
V-RAM?
One company wanted $50 more for a local bus video card. Is this normal?
Hard Drive:
Segate, Western Digital, Conner all have the same price. Which one is
more liable? which one has better performace?
Case/power supply:
Given the choise of desktop and minitower, which one is better?
What is the adequate power supply?
Is cooling a general problem or a non-issue?
What features should I ask for?
Did I miss anything?
I am sure that there are a lot of semi-PC-literates reading this group.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
Jason Chen
|
9746 | From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: DAVE KINGMAN FOR THE HALL OF FAME
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
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In article <C5JBsE.KKK@news.udel.edu> philly@ravel.udel.edu (Robert C Hite) writes:
>
>Are you for real? How many Gold Gloves does Ozzie Smith have? If a
>guy hung around and hit 30 homers a year for 15 years, wouldn't he
>be a given for the Hall? Is defense not just as important?
Frankly, no. Offense and defense are equally important. But the
pitcher is 80% of the defense. The primary role of every other player
is on offense. Even shortstops are a bigger part of the offensive
game than of the defensive game. (They might not do much with their
part of the offense, but that's another issue.)
That being said, I think both Smith and Yount deserve the HOF. They
hit pretty well in addition to their defense.
Cheers,
-Valentine
|
9747 | From: ricardo@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ricardo Hernandez Muchado)
Subject: Re: Rumours about 3DO ???
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Nntp-Posting-Host: rs43873.rchland.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Rochester
Lines: 74
In article <1993Apr15.164940.11632@mercury.unt.edu>, Sean McMains <mcmains@unt.edu> writes:
|> In article <1993Apr15.144843.19549@rchland.ibm.com> Ricardo Hernandez
|> Muchado, ricardo@rchland.vnet.ibm.com writes:
|> > And CD-I's CPU doesn't help much either. I understand it is
|> >a 68070 (supposedly a variation of a 68000/68010) running at something
|> >like 7Mhz. With this speed, you *truly* need sprites.
|>
|> Wow! A 68070! I'd be very interested to get my hands on one of these,
|> especially considering the fact that Motorola has not yet released the
|> 68060, which is supposedly the next in the 680x0 lineup. 8-D
Sean, the 68070 exists! :-)
|>
|> Ricardo, the animation playback to which Lawrence was referring in an
|> earlier post is plain old Quicktime 1.5 with the Compact Video codec.
|> I've seen digitized video (some of Apple's early commercials, to be
|> precise) running on a Centris 650 at about 30fps very nicely (16-bit
|> color depth). I would expect that using the same algorithm, a RISC
|> processor should be able to approach full-screen full-motion animation,
|> though as you've implied, the processor will be taxed more with highly
|> dynamic material.
|> ========================================================================
|> Sean McMains | Check out the Gopher | Phone:817.565.2039
|> University of North Texas | New Bands Info server | Fax :817.565.4060
|> P.O. Box 13495 | at seanmac.acs.unt.edu | E-Mail:
|> Denton TX 76203 | | McMains@unt.edu
Sean, I don't want to get into a 'mini-war' by what I am going to say,
but I have to be a little bit skeptic about the performance you are
claiming on the Centris, you'll see why (please, no-flames, I reserve
those for c.s.m.a :-) )
I was in Chicago in the last consumer electronics show, and Apple had a
booth there. I walked by, and they were showing real-time video capture
using a (Radious or SuperMac?) card to digitize and make right on the spot
quicktime movies. I think the quicktime they were using was the old one
(1.5).
They digitized a guy talking there in 160x2xx something. It played back quite
nicely and in real time. The guy then expanded the window (resized) to 25x by
3xx (320 in y I think) and the frame rate decreased enough to notice that it
wasn't 30fps (or about 30fps) anymore. It dropped to like 15 fps. Then he
increased it just a bit more, and it dropped to 10<->12 fps.
Then I asked him what Mac he was using... He was using a Quadra (don't know
what model, 900?) to do it, and he was telling the guys there that the Quicktime
could play back at the same speed even on an LCII.
Well, I spoiled his claim so to say, since a 68040 Quadra Mac was having
a little bit of trouble. And this wasn't even from the hardisk! This was
from memory!
Could it be that you saw either a newer version of quicktime, or some
hardware assisted Centris, or another software product running the
animation (like supposedly MacroMind's Accelerator?)?
Don't misunderstand me, I just want to clarify this.
But for the sake of the posting about a computer doing it or not, I can
claim 320x200 (a tad more with overscan) being done in 256,000+ colors in
my computer (not from the hardisk) at 30fps with Scala MM210.
But I agree, if we consider MPEG stuff, I think a multimedia consumer
low-priced box has a lot of market... I just think 3DO would make it,
no longer CD-I.
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Raist New A1200 owner 320<->1280 in x, 200<->600 in y
in 256,000+ colors from a 24-bit palette. **I LOVE IT!**<- New Low Fat .sig
*don't e-mail me* -> I don't have a valid address nor can I send e-mail
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9748 | From: aa229@Freenet.carleton.ca (Steve Birnbaum)
Subject: Re: rejoinder. Questions to Israelis
Reply-To: aa229@Freenet.carleton.ca (Steve Birnbaum)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Lines: 34
In a previous article, cpr@igc.apc.org (Center for Policy Research) says:
>today ? Finally, if Israel wants peace, why can't it declare what
>it considers its legitimate and secure borders, which might be a
>base for negotiations? Having all the above facts in mind, one
>cannot blame Arab countries to fear Israeli expansionism, as a
>number of wars have proved (1948, 1956, 1967, 1982).
Oh yeah, Israel was really ready to "expand its borders" on the holiest day
of the year (Yom Kippur) when the Arabs attacked in 1973. Oh wait, you
chose to omit that war...perhaps because it 100% supports the exact
OPPOSITE to the point you are trying to make? I don't think that it's
because it was the war that hit Israel the hardest. Also, in 1967 it was
Egypt, not Israel who kicked out the UN force. In 1948 it was the Arabs
who refused to accept the existance of Israel BASED ON THE BORDERS SET
BY THE UNITED NATIONS. In 1956, Egypt closed off the Red Sea to Israeli
shipping, a clear antagonistic act. And in 1982 the attack was a response
to years of constant shelling by terrorist organizations from the Golan
Heights. Children were being murdered all the time by terrorists and Israel
finally retaliated. Nowhere do I see a war that Israel started so that
the borders could be expanded.
Steve
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| Internet: aa229@freenet.carleton.ca Fidonet: 1:163/109.18 |
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|
9749 | From: ron.roth@rose.com (ron roth)
Subject: Selective Placebo
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
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T(> Russell Turpin responds to article by Ron Roth:
T(>
T(> R> ... I don't doubt that the placebo effect is alive and well with
T(> R> EVERY medical modality - estimated by some to be around 20+%,
T(> R> but why would it be higher with alternative versus conventional
T(> R> medicine?"
T(>
T(> How do you know that it is? If you could show this by careful
T(> measurement, I suspect you would have a paper worthy of publication
T(> in a variety of medical journals.
T(>
T(> Russell
If you notice the question mark at the end of the sentence, I was
addressing that very question to that person (who has a dog named
sugar) and a few other people who seem to be of the same opinion.
I would love to have anyone come up with a study to support their
claims that the placebo effect is more prevalent with alternative
compared to conventional medicine.
Perhaps the study could also include how patients respond if they
are dissatisfied with a conventional versus an alternative doctor,
i.e. which practitioner is more likely to get punched in the face
when the success of the treatment doesn't meet the expectations of
the patient!
--Ron--
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RoseReader 2.00 P003228: When in doubt, make it sound convincing!
RoseMail 2.10 : Usenet: Rose Media - Hamilton (416) 575-5363
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9750 | From: prb@access.digex.com (Pat)
Subject: Re: The Area Rule
Organization: Express Access Online Communications USA
Lines: 20
Distribution: sci
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.net
I am sure Mary or Henry can describe this more aptly then me.
But here is how i understand it.
At Speed, Near supersonic. The wind behaves like a fluid pipe.
It becomes incompressible. So wind has to bend away from the
wing edges. AS the wing thickens, the more the pipes bend.
If they have no place to go, they begin to stall, and force
compression, stealing power from the vehicle (High Drag).
If you squeeze the fuselage, so that these pipes have aplace to bend
into, then drag is reduced.
Essentially, teh cross sectional area of the aircraft shoulf
remain constant for all areas of the fuselage. That is where the wings are
subtract, teh cross sectional area of the wings from the fuselage.
pat
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9751 | From: gt7122b@prism.gatech.edu (Randal Lee Nicholas Mandock)
Subject: Re: Why do people become atheists?
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Lines: 33
In article <May.7.01.09.44.1993.14556@athos.rutgers.edu> muirm@argon.gas.organpipe.uug.arizona.edu (maxwell c muir) writes:
>In all candor, I would be happy to be proven wrong [about believing
>in atheism]. Problem is, I will have to be _proven_ wrong.
In mentioning some nonsense about psychology :) and atheism, Bob Muir asks
the following question.
> Do I sound "broken" to you?
I answer in the affirmative. Now this answer might sound a little
intellectually dishonest to Bob, but I think I have been accused before
of that heinous crime and am man enough to take it. !-) What thinking
person has not at one time or other been accused of it? Is it
politically correct for Christians to be the only besieged group
permitted the luxury of arrogance?
Now I have a question for Bob. Why in the world would any self-respecting
atheist want to subscribe to a Christian news group? I have a
difficult enough time keeping up with it, and I think I know something
about the subject.
Bob reminds me of my roommate. In order to disbelieve atheism, he says
he will need to be proven wrong about it. Well, I don't even waste
my time trying. I tell him that he'll just have to take my word for it.
In response, he tells me he will say an "atheist's prayer" for me.
Good luck, Bob. And, best regards.
--
Randal Lee Nicholas Mandock
Catechist
gt7122b@prism.gatech.edu
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9752 | From: mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm Lee)
Subject: Re: A KIND and LOVING God!!
Organization: Royal Roads Military College, Victoria, B.C.
Lines: 29
In article <sandvik-150493181533@sandvik-kent.apple.com>, sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr15.200231.10206@ra.royalroads.ca>,
|> mlee@post.RoyalRoads.ca (Malcolm Lee) wrote:
|> > These laws written for the Israelites, God's chosen people whom God had
|> > expressly set apart from the rest of the world. The Israelites were a
|> > direct witness to God's existence. To disobey God after KNOWing that God
|> > is real would be an outright denial of God and therefore immediately punishable.
|> > Remember, these laws were written for a different time and applied only to
|> > God's chosen people. But Jesus has changed all of that. We are living in the
|> > age of grace. Sin is no longer immediately punishable by death. There is
|> > repentance and there is salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. And not just
|> > for a few chosen people. Salvation is available to everyone, Jew and Gentile
|> > alike.
|>
|> Jews won't agree with you, Malcolm.
|>
|> Cheers,
|> Kent
|> ---
|> sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
A lot of people won't agree with me. That's their right and I respect that.
However, to the point, Jews are also covered by the saving grace of Jesus
Christ. There are Jews who have become Christians.
This brings up another question I still have to ponder: why is there so
much anti-Semitism? Why do people hate Jews? I don't hate Jews. I consider
them to be like anyone else, sinners we all are.
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9753 | From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer)
Subject: Re: The state of justice
Organization: ACME Products
Lines: 46
In article <1qksa4INNi7m@shelley.u.washington.edu>, tzs@stein2.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) writes:
> demon@desire.wright.edu (Not a Boomer) writes:
>> A judge denied GM's new trial motion, even though GM says it has two
>>new witnesses that said the occupant of the truck was dead from the impact, not
>>from the fire.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>
> How can a witness tell that someone in a burning truck is dead rather than
> unconscious?
Their testimony would be a contradiction of the plaintiff's charge (and
witness) that the occupant moved after the impact, indicating he was alive and
trying to get out (and provoking all sorts of sympathetic 'gross, burned alive'
reactions).
>> It's kind of scary when you realize that judges are going to start
>>denying new trials even when new evidence that contradicts the facts that led
>>to the previous ruling appear.
>>
>> Or has the judge decided that the new witnesses are not to be believed?
>>Shouldn't that be up to a jury?
>
> What kind of witnesses? If we are talking about witnesses who were at
> the accident, or were otherwise directly involved (e.g., paramedics,
> emergency room doctors, etc.), then they should have been used at the
> first trial. You don't get a new trial because you screwed up and
> forgot to call all of your witnesses.
They are two witnesses who didn't come forth until after the first
trial. While it would be "tough luck" for GM if they new about these witnesses
beforehand, IMO this constitutes "new evidence".
> If we are talking about new expert witnesses who will offer new
> interpretations of the data, note that the loser can *ALWAYS* find
> such witnesses. If this were grounds for a new trial, then the loser
> could *ALWAYS* get a new trial, and keep doing so until the loser
> becomes a winner (and then the other side would come up with new
> expert witnesses).
No, I support rulings that deny new trials on those grounds.
Brett
________________________________________________________________________________
"There's nothing so passionate as a vested interest disguised as an
intellectual conviction." Sean O'Casey in _The White Plague_ by Frank Herbert.
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9754 | From: jluther@cs.umr.edu (John W. Luther)
Subject: Re: Freemasonry and the Southern Baptist Convention
Nntp-Posting-Host: mcs213c.cs.umr.edu
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla, Rolla, MO
Lines: 80
In article <1qv82l$oj2@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ch981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Alicea) writes:
>
>
> With the Southern Baptist Convention convening this June to consider
>the charges that Freemasonry is incompatible with christianity, I thought
>the following quotes by Mr. James Holly, the Anti-Masonic Flag Carrier,
>would amuse you all...
>
>
> The following passages are exact quotes from "The Southern
>Baptist Convention and Freemasonry" by James L. Holly, M.D., President
>of Mission and Ministry To Men, Inc., 550 N 10th St., Beaumont, TX
>77706.
>
> The inside cover of the book states: "Mission & Ministry to Men,
>Inc. hereby grants permission for the reproduction of part or all of
>this booklet with two provisions: one, the material is not changed and
>two, the source is identified." I have followed these provisions.
>
> "Freemasonry is one of the allies of the Devil" Page iv.
>
> "The issue here is not moderate or conservative, the issue is God
>and the Devil" Page vi."
>
> "It is worthwhile to remember that the formulators of public
>school education in America were Freemasons" Page 29.
>
> "Jesus Christ never commanded toleration as a motive for His
>disciples, and toleration is the antithesis of the Christian message."
>Page 30.
>
> "The central dynamic of the Freemason drive for world unity
>through fraternity, liberty and equality is toleration. This is seen
>in the writings of the 'great' writers of Freemasonry". Page 31.
>
> "He [Jesus Christ] established the most sectarian of all possible
>faiths." Page 37.
>
> "For narrowness and sectarianism, there is no equal to the Lord
>Jesus Christ". Page 40.
>
> "What seems so right in the interest of toleration and its
>cousins-liberty, equality and fraternity-is actually one of the
>subtlest lies of the 'father of lies.'" Page 40.
>
> "The Southern Baptist Convention has many churches which were
>founded in the Lodge and which have corner stones dedicated by the
>Lodge. Each of these churches should hold public ceremonies of
>repentance and of praying the blood and the Name of the Lord Jesus
>Christ over the church and renouncing the oaths taken at the
>dedication of the church and/or building." Page 53-54.
>
>
> I hope you all had a good laugh! I know *I* did! <g>,
>
>
Tony
I appreciate the narrow-mindedness of the view expressed in
the text you quoted. I also appreciate your being amused
by such determined ignorance. Without taking anything away
from your mirth, I want to say that these views sadden me.
I can only hope that that sort of narrow-mindedness will
die with the generations that have promoted it. Teach
your children well.
<wet blanket mode off>
Pax.
John
>
>
--
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* jluther@cs.umr.edu <-Best for Email | opinions for UMR's just *
* 71140.313@compuserve.com <-$$$$$! | doesn't know UMR. *
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9755 | From: hambidge@bms.com
Subject: Re: Gun Control (was Re: We're Mad as Hell at the TV News)
Reply-To: hambidge@bms.com
Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb
Distribution: na
Lines: 35
In article <C4tsHu.Ew6@magpie.linknet.com>, manes@magpie.linknet.com (Steve Manes) writes:
>
>What relevance are ALL homicides in this debate? What do you think gun
>control advocates are saying: that if we get rid of all handguns we will
>live in a homicide-free world?
They sure make it sound like that.
>
>The issue is guns, not baseball bats. Even a simpleton knows that
>he stands a better chance of surviving an attack with a baseball bat...
>certainly of outrunning a bat-wielding assailant.
>
Even a simpleton knows a baseball bat is considered a deadly weapon.
If one cannot run away (e.g. old, infirm, even middle-aged if the
assailant is younger), a handgun is the most effective means of
defense. You won't even have to fire a shot 98% of the time.
>As for knives, see my earlier post. I'd much rather face a knife
>than a gun, thanks. Fortunately, the best defense against a knife isn't
>another knife. Anyone trained in unarmed self-defense won't have
>much of a problem disarming a knife assailant untrained in knife
>assault (which probably means 99.9% of knife assailants).
Any real streetfighter (and there are LOTS of them), with or without a
knife, will kick the living sh** out of most people "trained in
unarmed self defense". For the majority of people, a gun is the most
effective form of self defense.
Al
[standard disclaimer]
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9756 | From: maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Roger Maynard)
Subject: Re: If You Were Pat Burns ...
Keywords: Leaf Wings
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Lines: 24
In <1993Apr20.181549.11414@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>Pray for the Wings to become lazy and overconfident...the Wings
>can only lose the series...Toronto cannot win it. Take away
>Doug Gilmour and the Leafs are an old Tampa Bay.
Right Gerald. And take away Bob Probert and the Wings are dead Octopuses.
>The Leafs deserve a lot of credit for their diligent effort
>during the regular season...but if Detroit puts in a reasonable
>effort, this is not a contest.
Let's wait for the body to get cold before we start in with the eulogies
hm? They have only lost ONE game. The game was in Detroit after all and
Potvin did not have his best evening. Nobody that I saw thought that the
Leafs would sweep the Wings. It looks like it might go six. The Leafs
will take the Wings home advantage away in the next game.
--
cordially, as always, maynard@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca
"So many morons...
rm ...and so little time."
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9757 | From: C558172@mizzou1.missouri.edu
Subject: Re: The 1964 Phillies: deja vu?
Organization: University of Missouri
X-Posted-From: mizzou1.missouri.edu
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Lines: 16
In article <1993Apr14.222601.21160@cabell.vcu.edu>
csc2imd@cabell.vcu.edu (Ian M. Derby) writes:
>
>
>After reading my local paper today, I found out that the Phillies
>started the 1964 season at 10-2. I am not as old as 1964, but I've
>heard many talk about the serious choke job the Phillies did that
>season. They were ahead of the Cardinals by 15 games that season in
>mid-August. They managed to lose a bunch from then on and the
>Cardinals took the division. 15!!! games ahead and lost it.... I
>hope this season is MUCH different.
>
I don't.
--Shannon "Cardinals fan" Kohl
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9758 | From: abdkw@stdvax (David Ward)
Subject: Re: Keeping Spacecraft on after Funding Cuts.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center - Robotics Lab
Lines: 34
In article <20APR199321040621@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov>, baalke@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Ron Baalke) writes...
>In article <1993Apr20.204335.157595@zeus.calpoly.edu>, jgreen@trumpet.calpoly.edu (James Thomas Green) writes...
>>Why do spacecraft have to be shut off after funding cuts. For
>>example, Why couldn't Magellan just be told to go into a "safe"
>>mode and stay bobbing about Venus in a low-power-use mode and if
>>maybe in a few years if funding gets restored after the economy
>>gets better (hopefully), it could be turned on again.
>
>It can be, but the problem is a political one, not a technical one.
Also remember that every dollar spent keeping one spacecraft in safe mode
(probably a spin-stabilized sun-pointing orientation) is a dollar not
spent on mission analysis for a newer spacecraft. In order to turn the
spacecraft back on, you either need to insure that the Ops guys will be
available, or you need to retrain a new team.
Having said that, there are some spacecraft that do what you have proposed.
Many of the operational satellites Goddard flies (like the Tiros NOAA
series) require more than one satellite in orbit for an operational set.
Extras which get replaced on-orbit are powered into a "standby" mode for
use in an emergency. In that case, however, the same ops team is still
required to fly the operational birds; so the standby maintenance is
relatively cheap.
Finally, Pat's explanation (some spacecraft require continuous maintenance
to stay under control) is also right on the mark. I suggested a spin-
stabilized control mode because it would require little power or
maintenance, but it still might require some momentum dumping from time
to time.
In the end, it *is* a political decision (since the difference is money),
but there is some technical rationale behind the decision.
David W. @ GSFC
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9759 | From: higgins@fnalf.fnal.gov (Bill Higgins-- Beam Jockey)
Subject: Which Gehrels? (was Re: Comet in Temporary Orbit Around Jupiter?)
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
Lines: 30
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalf.fnal.gov
In article <1993Apr21.170817.15845@sq.sq.com>, msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:
>
>> > > Also, peri[jove]s of Gehrels3 were:
>
> Thanks again. One final question. The name Gehrels wasn't known to
> me before this thread came up, but the May issue of Scientific American
> has an article about the "Inconstant Cosmos", with a photo of Neil
> Gehrels, project scientist for NASA's Compton Gamma Ray Observatory.
> Same person?
I would guess not. Dr. Neil Gehrels of CGRO is the son of Dr. Tom
Gehrels of the University of Arizona. Since he's long had research
interests in asteroids and other solar-system astronomy, Tom is the
one more likely to have discovered a comet (and thus had his name
attached to it).
Tom Gehrels is a leader in the Spacewatch project, which has recently
increased mankind's discovery rate on near-Earth asteroids (they're
finding a couple every month). For much more on this interesting guy,
read his autobiography, *On a Glassy Sea*.
"Do you know the asteroids, Mr.Kemp?... Bill Higgins
Hundreds of thousands of them. All
wandering around the Sun in strange Fermilab
orbits. Some never named, never
charted. The orphans of the Solar higgins@fnal.fnal.gov
System, Mr. Kemp."
higgins@fnal.bitnet
"And you want to become a father."
--*Moon Zero Two* SPAN/Hepnet: 43011::HIGGINS
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9760 | From: tervio@katk.Helsinki.FI (TERVI| MARKO J)
Subject: Realignment in 2000
Organization: University of Helsinki, Computing Centre
Lines: 43
Well, here it is, NHL in the year 2000.
I got these from a very reliable source in a dream some years ago and
although I initially thought I had just been taking too many too strong
drugs now it seems the realization has really begun... You can see the
league has already started to move to this direction.
*The Walt Disney Conference*
Anaheim Mighty Chipmunks -Franchise name to be changed after each new
LA Kings hockey movie
LA Flames -We've seen some of that
San Jose Sharks
San Diego Bruins
Tijuana Red Wings -Detroit's hockey team will follow its car industry...
Dallas Stars
Houston Oilers
Texas Rangers
Seattle Canucks
*The Norm Green Conference*
Alabama White Hawks
Biloxi Blues
Tampa Bay Lightning
Miami Blades
Helsinki Jets -You've heard them starting getting used to the anthem
Montreal Quebecois (sp?) -There will be no 'Canada'
Atlanta Devils
Orlando Penquins
Key West Islanders
Hartford Whalers The Whalers will never move, huh?
Palm Beach Capitals
Now that the Anahaim team is becomming real I'm really beginning to believe
the rest of the 'message'. I'm sure the future will turn you into believers
too. After 2000 the NHL will abandond ice-rinks. It's so expensive to cool
down the rinks in the subtropics and the locals hardly know what ice is
anyway. NHL will become a roller skating hockey league. That way it can
create more public interest in the game when local supporteres can play the
game in their back yards !
I hope I'm just out of my mind.
There won't REALLY be a Disney team in Anaheim, will there?
The Stars aren't REALLY moving...
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9761 | From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
Subject: Re: WACO: The Militia Assembles
Keywords: We Salute Them
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: usa
Lines: 7
Dumb move.
The smart move would be to sneak in someone with a TV camera
and video transmitter.
John Nagle
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9762 | From: colling@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com (Michael Collingridge)
Subject: NHL Team Captains
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM; Ann Arbor, Michigan (USA)
Summary: How Are Team Captains Selected?
Lines: 12
In the mist of the Rangers soap box (i.e. Captain neMesis-ier/ex-coach
Roger Nebula bad blood bath) and with high hopes turned to new coach
Mr. Klean (Commissar Keenan)... I would like to know what procedures
hockey teams use to select their captains (including A's). Are they
selected by the coaching staff, do the players vote for a captain, or
are they appointed by management?
And, while we are on the subject, has a captain ever been traded,
resigned, or been striped of his title during the season? Any other
team captain trivia would be appreciated.
-- Mike
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9763 | From: td@alice.att.com (Tom Duff)
Subject: Re: TIFF: philosophical significance of 42
Article-I.D.: alice.25335
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ
Lines: 3
ulrich@galki.toppoint.de wrote:
> Does anyone have any other suggestions where the 42 came from?
Forty-two is six times nine.
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9764 | From: ptorre@hardy.u.washington.edu (Phil Torre)
Subject: Re: Suggestions on Audio relays ???
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Lines: 18
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu
>In article <C5qsBF.IEK@ms.uky.edu> billq@ms.uky.edu (Billy Quinn) writes:
>>I built a little project using the radio shack 5vdc relays to switch
>>audio. I got pretty bad 'clicks' when the thing switched.
>
>> Is there a good relay/relay circuit that I can use for switching
>>audio, so that there will be *NO* noise of any kind on the audio lines.
>
I missed the first part of this thread; are you switching line level or
speaker level audio?
If line level, there's a single chip 4x1 *stereo* audio switch available
that switches 4 two-channel inputs into 1 two-channel output, and also
has a mute function, all controllable with ttl inputs. LM1037, I think?
If speaker level, never mind. :(
Phil Torre (ptorre@u.washington.edu)
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9765 | From: beck@irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de (Andre Beck)
Subject: Re: Title for XTerm
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, TU Dresden, Germany.
Lines: 14
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Andre_Beck@IRS.Inf.TU-Dresden.DE
NNTP-Posting-Host: irzr17.inf.tu-dresden.de
Yet again,
the escape sequences you are speaking about here are non standard and
dangerous. In fact, an ANSI compliant sequence parser HANGS on them.
Why are there such strange ESC sequences instead of compatible DSC ?
--
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9766 | From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Re: <Political Atheists?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Lines: 49
NNTP-Posting-Host: lloyd.caltech.edu
kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
>>Natural morality may specifically be thought of as a code of ethics that
>>a certain species has developed in order to survive.
>Wait. Are we talking about ethics or morals here?
Is the distinction important?
>>We see this countless
>>times in the animal kingdom, and such a "natural" system is the basis for
>>our own system as well.
>Huh?
Well, our moral system seems to mimic the natural one, in a number of ways.
>>In order for humans to thrive, we seem to need
>>to live in groups,
>Here's your problem. "we *SEEM* to need". What's wrong with the highlighted
>word?
I don't know. What is wrong? Is it possible for humans to survive for
a long time in the wild? Yes, it's possible, but it is difficult. Humans
are a social animal, and that is a cause of our success.
>>and in order for a group to function effectively, it
>>needs some sort of ethical code.
>This statement is not correct.
Isn't it? Why don't you think so?
>>And, by pointing out that a species' conduct serves to propogate itself,
>>I am not trying to give you your tautology, but I am trying to show that
>>such are examples of moral systems with a goal. Propogation of the species
>>is a goal of a natural system of morality.
>So anybody who lives in a monagamous relationship is not moral? After all,
>in order to ensure propogation of the species, every man should impregnate
>as many women as possible.
No. As noted earlier, lack of mating (such as abstinence or homosexuality)
isn't really destructive to the system. It is a worst neutral.
>For that matter, in herds of horses, only the dominate stallion mates. When
>he dies/is killed/whatever, the new dominate stallion is the only one who
>mates. These seems to be a case of your "natural system of morality" trying
>to shoot itself in the figurative foot.
Again, the mating practices are something to be reexamined...
keith
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9767 | From: cm@cci632.cci.com (Carl Mercer)
Subject: 1986 Mazda forsale
Keywords: 1986, 323, pioneer DX 680
Organization: Northern Telecom, Inc. - Network Application Systems
Distribution: wny
Lines: 34
For sale - Mazda 323
1986 Mazda 323
White exterior, Grey interior.
75,000 miles
Interior in very good condition.
Exterior in good condition
Pioneer DX 680 car stereo.
- CD player
- 18 FM presets, 6 AM
- removable faceplate
- seperate component speakers professionally mounted
in the doors.
The car has been well maintained. I wax it often and keep the interior
clean. Its a good running car with a solid body (no rust thru, tiny
spots of surface rust. When I see a spot I touch it up.) The stereo
makes the car. I have had no mechanical problems with it.
I'm looking for $900.00 firm. The car has an average wholesale value of
about $900.00 without the stereo. The stereo cost me $500.00 last July.
If you are interested, call or Email me at:
Carl Mercer
cm@cci.com
(716) 654-2652
(716) 359-0895 evening
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9768 | From: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Subject: Re: New to Motorcycles...
Nntp-Posting-Host: tigger.eng.tridom.com
Reply-To: alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming)
Organization: AT&T Tridom, Engineering
Lines: 22
In article <1993Apr20.163315.8876@adobe.com>, cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
|> In article <1993Apr20.131800.16136@alw.nih.gov> gregh@niagara.dcrt.nih.gov (Gregory Humphreys) writes:
> }1) I only have about $1200-1300 to work with, so that would have
> }to cover everything (bike, helmet, anything else that I'm too
> }ignorant to know I need to buy)
>
> The following numbers are approximate, and will no doubt get me flamed:
>
> Helmet (new, but cheap) $100
> Jacket (used or very cheap) $100
> Gloves (nothing special) $ 20
> Motorcycle Safety Foundation riding course (a must!) $140
^^^
Wow! Courses in Georgia are much cheaper. $85 for both.
>
The list looks good, but I'd also add:
Heavy Boots (work, hiking, combat, or similar) $45
Think Peace.
-- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)
KotBBBB (1988 GSXR1100J) AMA# 634578 DOD# 4210 PGP key available
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9769 | From: lmann@jjmhome.UUCP (Laurie Mann)
Subject: Clothing (Was Re: male/female mystery [ Re: Dumbest automotive...])
Lines: 41
In article <1pima2INN180@gap.caltech.edu>, wen-king@cs.caltech.edu (Wen-King Su) writes:
> This has me thinking. Is there a biological reason why women can't put
> their keys in their pants pockets like men do? I have two pockets on the
> back of each of my pants. I put my keys in one and wallent in another.
> Many of the pockets even have a botton on them so I can close them securely.
> Everything is that much simpler for me. Why can't women do the same?
> Is is biological (ie, not enough room for a bigger bottom plus keys and
> a wallet) or is it the way they are raised by the parents?
Oh PULLEEZE!
It's not biology at all, it's clothing design. Women's clothing is
generally designed to be as non-functional as possible. It's only been
in the last five years or so that you could buy women's pants with
pockets deep enough to carry anything in. Previously, deep pockets were
virtually unknown in women's clothing. Skirts generally have better
pockets now, too. Dresses, espcially fancy dresses, are still pretty
hopeless. I often hand my driver's license over to my husband if we're
dressed up to go out somewhere, so I don't have to be encumbered by a
purse.
If women consistently bought functional clothing, and boycotted the
manufacturers who refuse to make functional women's clothing, I think
manufacturers would tend to bow to market pressures. There's
an interesting chapter in Susan Faludi's Backlash that described
what happened the LAST time clothing manufacturers ignored the
need for functional women's clothing. The manufactuing industry
lost millions.
From a woman who would rather buy men's clothing WITH decent pockets and
long legs and high waists than women's clothing without....
--
******** lmann@jjmhome.uucp (Internet) Laurie.Mann (GEnie) *********
** Claiming that sex education leads to irresponsible sex is like **
***** claiming that driver education leads to car accidents. *****
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9770 | From: rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com
Subject: Walter?
Lines: 15
Return-Path: <amail.amdahl.com!rich.bellacera@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>
Walter-
I tried several times in the past to communicate with you and Susan, but
you ignored me, and I don't honestly believe my letters were mean. Rather
I thought they were thoughtful and compassionate, but I see now what I should
have seen then. Call me naive.
I give up on this group. As my Lord advised, that if you are unwelcome in
a city then brush the dust of your feet and go on.
If anyone cares about the topic they write to me direct, if not, well,
may God bless you as well.
Bye to this group.
PAX
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9771 | From: hzhang@compstat.wharton.upenn.edu (Hao Zhang)
Subject: Re: X-emulator
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Lines: 12
Nntp-Posting-Host: compstat.wharton.upenn.edu
A posting in another news group I read a while ago said that
PC-Xview and PC-Xremote allow you to use Xterm.
Call NCD @ 503-641-2200 for more info.
Hope it helps,
-Hao
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Hao Zhang, Dept. of Stat., Wharton School, Univ. of Penn.
zhang48@wharton.upenn.edu hzhang@compstat.wharton.upenn.edu
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9772 | From: moor9881@mach1.wlu.ca (Dwayne Moore u)
Subject: SOUND BLASTER ver 1.5 UNDER WINDOWS 3.1
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Lines: 35
[ Article crossposted from comp.speech,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.os.linux ]
[ Author was MARIO LAURETTI ]
[ Posted on Mon, 5 Apr 1993 21:44:24 GMT ]
I Have a Sound Blaster ver 1.5
When I try to install driver ver 1.5 (driver that comes with window 3.1)
It tell me to upgrade my card first!!!????
Now, I have found new drivers from Creative labs.
But I have problems installing it:
After removing the vsbd.386 (old version that come in windows)
After installing Creative Sound Blaster - MIDI Synthesizer
I try to install Creative Sound Blaster 1.5 Wave...
But when I am in the menu: Add Unlisted or Updated Driver
and double click on this driver, I have this error:
--------------------------Driver Error---------------------------
Cannot load Creative Sound Blaster 1.5 Wave and MIDI driver. The driver file
may be missing. Try installing the driver again, or contact your system
administrator.
Yes, yes, yes, I have read the README.1st and try every thing!
can somebody help me??
Mario Laureti
internet: laurm00@tohi.dmi.usherb.ca
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9773 | From: warlord@MIT.EDU (Derek Atkins)
Subject: Re: The Old Key Registration Idea...
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Lines: 40
NNTP-Posting-Host: hodge.mit.edu
In-reply-to: pcw@access.digex.com's message of 16 Apr 1993 15:31:24 -0400
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
In article <1qn1ic$hp6@access.digex.net> pcw@access.digex.com (Peter Wayner) writes:
2) The system is vulnerable to simple phone swapping attacks
like this. Criminals will quickly figure this out and go to
town.
Depends.. Its possible that the phone sends its serial number in the
clear at some specified interval... So all a listener needs to do is
get that SN, and then get the key for it... So swapping phones isn't
a problem (for the gov't, that is). They still know that this line
belongs to you, so they just watch the line and see the SN, and then
they get the key for that SN...
In either case, I think we need to look at this a bit deeper."'jbl)mW:wxlD2
Well, I think this is understood. The major problem is that a lot of
people just don't trust this key escrow stuff, and the fact that the
algorithms are classified... So, yes, a lot of this needs to be looked
at closer!
- -derek
PGP 2 key available upon request on the key-server:
pgp-public-keys@toxicwaste.mit.edu
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--
Derek Atkins, MIT '93, Electrical Engineering and Computer Science
Secretary, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB)
MIT Media Laboratory, Speech Research Group
warlord@MIT.EDU PP-ASEL N1NWH
|
9774 | From: jburrill@boi.hp.com (Jim Burrill)
Subject: Re: Squeekin' Windows
Distribution: usa
Organization: Idaho River Country, The Salmon, Payette, Clearwater, Boise, Selway, Priest.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]
Lines: 19
arlen.r.martin (arm1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com) wrote:
: Consumer Reports once wrote about the S-10 Blazer that it "shook and rattled
: like a tired taxi cab". There is one noise that is expecially irritating -
: the back window squeaks. I believe its because the whole tailgate assembly
: and window are not solid. Anyway, has anyone had the same problem, and have
: you found any fixes?
:
I can relate to this. I've tried everything on my 86, greasing every point,
WD40, etc. Grease on the two cheap hinges on the tailgate seems to quiet it
down for a time, until the grease works out of the hinges. (Hinge pins appear
to be made out of 16 penny nails!)
Another vibration seems to get worse with age, and that is a vibration in the
transmission in 4th gear. My S10 has 59K miles on it. I bought it new, treated
it very easily, no fast off-road stuff. Can't GM build Chevies like they used
to? Ford Explorers look nice, until you look at the price.
Jim Burrill
|
9775 | From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: Z Magazine: Health Care Reform (March 93)
Nntp-Posting-Host: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: PhDs In The Hall
Lines: 95
{Sorry, Harel et al, but our doctors and most hospitals are still
private in Canada as well as in much of Western Europe.}
harelb@math.cornell.edu (Harel Barzilai - Grad - Brown) writes:
> ===================================
> H e a l t h C a r e R e f o r m
> By Camille Colatosti
> Z magazine (see bottom), March 1993
> ===================================
>...
>The single-payer model, sometimes called national health insurance,
>eliminates private insurance companies and removes health care from
>employment. The government provides free health care to all U.S.
>residents. And there are no out-of-pocket costs.
Wrong. In better EC countries that use pure (but public) health
insurance (like we use in Canada) rather than self-enclosed HMO-like
socialized medicine, 30% of our costs comes from private supplementary
insurance and/or copayments. France Magazine's Summer 1992 edition
has a fantastic presentation of their basic insurance coverage,
including a sample chart of copayment percentages. For 1-30 days,
you're covered for 80% of the public hospital rate, 100% afterward.
With extra private insurance, you can get into a private hospital and
be covered for any differences beyond the public hospital rate. The
public insurance covers 100% beyond 30 days, or the same cash amount
for a private hospital and the difference is paid out-of-pocket or
according to your supplementary private insurance. Over 2/3rds of
French have some form of extra private insurance. So, 30% of health
costs in Europe are out of private funds and not gleaned from other
taxes. The GDP figures are combined public and private expenditures
for total outlay using the same methods that yield the 13-14% figure
for the U.S.
That the French had deductibles and copayments in their insurance fund
is to their credit ... I am in the minority for advocating such back
in Canada (to make the Canadian insurance look more like real health
insurance -- which actually it is). The new Reform Party, a breakoff
of traditionalists from the Conservatives with a mildly "libertarian"
faction, hold our public health insurance as an untouchable but that
just a few people have to be reminded that it's not free (the average
Canadian/European is more fiscally naive than their American
counterparts on issues like these).
I'm one of the few people who favour copayments (forget about
leftists, even our conservatives attack me for it on the Canadian
newsgroups) to make it look more like real insurance, 'cos the 100%
insurance payment is hidden (unlike in France) and if you didn't know
it, you'd believe it actually is socialized medicine (American
conservatives/libertarians and Canadian leftists are the only ones who
seriously call it that). Canadians aren't worried about the
Americans, who spend 14%; we're worried about the French and Germans
who spend 7% to our 9% ... so the insurance is looking at things that
shouldn't be paid for out of general funds like physicals for
insurance policies, sick notes, electrolysis, etc. The reason that
the Canadian health insurance hasn't spiralled out of control despite
being open and universal is that unlike Americans, there is no urge to
spend all of your benefits' worth, and more if you can ... we're a
different culture.
>Like the play or pay model, managed competition leaves in place two
>elements of the current health care system that reformers most often
>criticize: the private, for-profit insurance industry; and the
>employer-based system of coverage. Managed competition compels
>employers to enroll their workers in large pools of health insurance
>customers. Entire industries may, for example, sponsor a pool or
>network. Insurance companies, doctors, hospitals and other health
>care providers then bid for the pool's business, competing- in
>theory- on the basis of price and quality.
"Managed Care" relies on HMO's, which are unknown in most western
nations that use only public health insurance like Canada, France
and Germany (I'm Canadian, and my German father-in-law-to-be says
of HMO/NHS approaches, "We left that behind with East Germany!").
Sure, HMO/NHS controls costs because you have managers strangling
doctors with budget strings.
In Canada, we use the public health insurance approach as in France
and Germany, with all private doctors and both private and public
hospitals. It is all pure insurance without HMO's. The divisions
are different, with the Germans using a couple hundred interlinked
"sickness funds" over a century old while Canada divides by their
provinces (who run the insurance fund and set local fees with the
doctors monopoly; federal funds cover the fees disbursed.)
With such an open-ended system, it's no surprise that Canada is #2 to
the U.S. in costs; all-insurance is the most expensive way to go. The
French and Germans use the same approach but have larger populations
in more compact geography to improve scales of economy.
gld
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary L. Dare
> gld@columbia.EDU GO Winnipeg Jets GO!!!
> gld@cunixc.BITNET Selanne + Domi ==> Stanley
|
9776 | From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: Identify this bike for me
Article-I.D.: adobe.1993Apr6.002937.9237
Distribution: usa
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Lines: 14
In article <1993Apr5.193804.18482@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> coburnn@spot.Colorado.EDU (Nicholas S. Coburn) writes:
}first I thought it was an 'RC31' (a Hawk modified by Two Brothers Racing),
}but I did not think that they made this huge tank for it. Additionally,
As someone who was told quite firmly by 2 Honda sales/service weenies
that there is no larger tank available for the Hawk (I have a '91
Hawk with the puny 3.2 gal tank), I'd be very interested to know if
there is any decent aftermarket solution. I'd love to have at least
a 4 gal tank.
--
Curtis Jackson cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com '91 Hawk GT '81 Maxim 650
DoD#0721 KotB '91 Black Lab mix "Studley Doright" '92 Collie/Golden "George"
"There is no justification for taking away individuals' freedom
in the guise of public safety." -- Thomas Jefferson
|
9777 | From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Subject: Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more.
Organization: DSI/USCRPAC
Distribution: na
Lines: 43
In article <115863@bu.edu> uni@acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt) writes:
>
>I wish I could agree with you. Ask yourself this. Why would any private
>sector entity wish to buy a crypto system that was KNOWN to be at least
>partially compromised? (Key escrows in this instance) Why would any
>private sector entity wish to buy a crypto system that had not been properly
>evaluated? (i.e. algorythm not publically released)
>The answer seems obvious to me, they wouldn't. There is other hardware out
>there not compromised. DES as an example (triple DES as a better one.)
What follows is my opinion. It is not asserted to be "the truth" so no
flames, please. It comes out of a background of 20 years as a senior
corporate staff executive in two Fortune 50 companies.
I'd be happy to use a crypto system supplied by the NSA for business, if
they told me it was more secure than DES, and in particular resistant to
attempts by Japanese, French, and other competitive companies and
governments to break.
I'd be happy to do so even with escrowed keys, provided I was happy about
the bona fides of the escrow agencies (the Federal Reserve would certainly
satisfy me, as would something set up by one of the big 8 accounting firms).
I'd trust the NSA or the President if they stated there were no trap
doors--I'd be even happier if a committee of independent experts examined
the thing under seal of secrecy and reported back that it was secure.
I'd trust something from the NSA long before I'd trust something from some
Swiss or anybody Japanese.
This may seem surprising to some here, but I suggest most corporations would
feel the same way. Most/many/some (pick one) corporations have an attitude
that the NSA is part of our government and "we support our government", as
one very famous CEO put it to me one day.
Just some perspective from another point of view.
--
David Sternlight Great care has been taken to ensure the accuracy of
our information, errors and omissions excepted.
|
9778 | From: lvc@cbnews.cb.att.com (Larry Cipriani)
Subject: Ohio Legislative Alert -- H.B. 287
Organization: Ideology Busters, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Keywords: mourning dove hunting season
Lines: 14
OHIO HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE THURSDAY, APRIL 8, 1993
H.B. NO. 287- REPRESENTATIVES SEESE, DAVIS, BATCHELDER, AMSTUTZ, T.
JOHNSON, VAN VYVEN, WACHTMANN, WHITE, DI DONATO, BOGGS, LOGAN
TO AMEND SECTION 1531.01 OF THE REVISED CODE TO ADD MOURNING DOVE
TO THE GAME BIRD LIST AND PERMIT THE CHIEF OF THE DIVISION OF WILDLIFE IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES TO REGULATE THE HUNTING OF MOURNING
DOVES, AND TO MAKE AN APPROPRIATION.
This would allow the hunting of mourning doves in Ohio and give the
sportsman something they have been pushing for.
--
Larry Cipriani -- l.v.cipriani@att.com
|
9779 | From: sandvik@newton.apple.com (Kent Sandvik)
Subject: Re: Disillusioned Protestant Finds Christ
Organization: Cookamunga Tourist Bureau
Lines: 23
In article <C5KxDD.K4J@boi.hp.com>, jburrill@boi.hp.com (Jim Burrill)
wrote:
> If Jesus never taught the concept of the Trinity, how do you deal with the
> following:
>
> Mat 28 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven
> and on earth has been given to me.
>
> Mat 28 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing
> them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
>
> Mat 28 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.
> And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
Jim, please, that's a lame explanation of the trinity that Jesus provides
above. Baptizing people in the name of three things != trinity. If
this is the case, then I'm wrong, I assumed that trinity implies that
God is three entities, and yet the same.
Cheers,
Kent
---
sandvik@newton.apple.com. ALink: KSAND -- Private activities on the net.
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9780 | From: dtmedin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com (Dave Medin)
Subject: Re: What is Zero dB????
Reply-To: dtmedin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville AL
Lines: 81
In article <sehari.733764410@vincent1.iastate.edu>, sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
|> In <C4truE.6AA@ms.uky.edu> msunde01@mik.uky.edu (Mark Underwood) writes:
|>
|> >I am somewhat familiar with the dB measurements as they apply to
|> >electrical circuits - i.e. it is the gain of (for example) an amplifier
|> >measured on a logarithmic scale. However, this requires that you have a
|> >reference value: i.e the ouput is +20dB (e.g.) with respect to the input
|> >signal.
<stuff deleted>
|> What you actually talking about here is dBm and not dB. However, the terms
|> are used loosely by most people. ``dBm'' is power with respact to 1mW, whereas
|> dB is a ratio. Now, like these two English statement:
|>
|> 1. I am doing well.
|> 2. I am doing good.
|>
|> Similarly, people usually use dB for dBm. Another common mistake is spelling
|> ``db'' instead of ``dB'' as you did in your article. See the ``B'' is for
|> ``Bell'' company, the mother of AT&T and should be capitalized.
|>
|> With highest regards,
|> Babak Sehari.
Good gravy! Decibels are all *ratios.* The question that remains in
any ratio is the reference unit used. Sometimes, this will be a reference
power, such as 1 milliwatt (given a certain circuit impedance which
should also be included in the fine print or known, like 50 ohms
in an RF circuit of that impedance), leading to an accepted
notation of dBm. Maybe it might be dBV, disregarding the impedance of
the circuit and power developed, using 1 volt as reference *amplitude*
(rather than reference power). Or, it might have an arbitrary or omitted
reference that is not included in the notation, leading to just plain dB.
So. look at it this way--'dB' has an implied reference while notation
such as 'dBm' has an explicit reference.
For power:
dB = 10*log( P(measured)/P(reference) )
For amplitude
dB = 20*log( A(measured)/A(reference) )
'B' is for bel, which is a standard term for a log ratio to the base
10, named after Alexander Graham Bell. A 'deci' Bel is 1/10 of a bel.
It has nothing to do with the Bell Telephone company except for
the common founder's name. The small 'd'/large 'B' is per SI notation
convention. I don't know anyone that's been crucified for messing it up.
Common references for audio are:
0 dBm = 1 milliwatt across 600 ohms
0 dBV = 1 volt
0 VU (a zero on the VU meter) = +4 dBm (pro gear line level)
0 VU = -10dBV (consumer gear line level)
Often times, a power amp VU meter will be aligned using
the rated power of the amp as the 0 dB point. It is all
done to whatever reference is reasonable for the application
or moment.
Note that in a circuit with a given (and maybe unknown) linear
impedance, if the amplitude goes up so many decibels, the
power will also increase the same amount. This proof can be done
with the above two identities and ohm's law.
--
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SSD--Networking (205) 837-1174 (h)
Intergraph Corp.
M/S GD3004 Internet: dtmedin@catbyte.b30.ingr.com
Huntsville, AL 35894 UUCP: ...uunet!ingr!b30!catbyte!dtmedin
******* Everywhere You Look (at least around my office) *******
* The opinions expressed here are mine (or those of my machine)
|
9781 | From: sunnyt@coding.bchs.uh.edu
Subject: Re: LCIII problems
Organization: University of Houston
Lines: 32
Reply-To: ln63sdm@sdcc4.ucsd.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: transposon.bchs.uh.edu
In article <1993Apr16.021225.19717@leland.Stanford.EDU> Ravi Konchigeri
<mongoose@leland.stanford.edu> writes:
> Finally got my computer fixed and I'd like to sum up.
>
> About hard drive companies: the original 160 meg drive that was bad (bad
> sector or something) was an IBM. The new one is a Quantum. Is the LCIII
> supposed to be shipped with IBMs? Is there a quality difference?
> Apparently! :)
>
> Second, about hard drive position. I've put the LCIII on its side and
> the new 160 HD has had no problems at all. I've even switched back and
> forth between horizontal and vertical and there are no problems. As far
> as I'm concerned I don't believe HD position is important for drives up
> to 160 meg, in any computer. Don't know about CD-ROM, though.
>
>
> "Just like everything else in life, the right lane ends in half a
mile."
>
> Ravi Konchigeri.
> mongoose@leland.stanford.edu
Ravi,
Its not a good idea to have a horizontally formatted hard disk in a
vertical position. If the drive is formatted in a horizontal position, it can
not completely compensate for the gravitational pull in a vertical position.
I'm not saying that your hard disk will fail tomorrow or 6 months from now, but
why take that chance? If you want more detailed info on the problem, please
mail me at:===> sunnyt@dna.bchs.uh.edu <===.
Sunny
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9782 | From: VEAL@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Subject: Re: The Dayton Gun "Buy Back" (Re: Boston Gun Buy Back)
Lines: 23
Organization: University of Tennessee Division of Continuing Education
In article <C5uCHu.FFn@cbnews.cb.att.com> lvc@cbnews.cb.att.com (Larry Cipriani) writes:
>According to WNCI 97.9 FM radio this morning, Dayton, Ohio is operating a
>gun "buy back". They are giving $50 for every functional gun turned in.
>They ran out of money in one day, and are now passing out $50 vouchers of
>some sort. They are looking for more funds to keep operating. Another
>media-event brought to you by HCI.
>
>Is there something similar pro-gun people can do ? For example, pay $100
>to anyone who lawfully protects their life with a firearm ? Sounds a bit
>tacky, but hey, whatever works.
Ack, what a public relations nightmare just begging happen.
"Gun Lobby pays vigilanties."
"NRA to shell out dough to gunfighters."
------------------------------------------------------------------------
David Veal Univ. of Tenn. Div. of Cont. Education Info. Services Group
PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu - "I still remember the way you laughed, the day
your pushed me down the elevator shaft; I'm beginning to think you don't
love me anymore." - "Weird Al"
|
9783 | From: rickc@krill.corp.sgi.com (Richard Casares)
Subject: Vegas odds?
Nntp-Posting-Host: krill.corp.sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Lines: 6
Does anyone have a list of Vegas odds for teams making
the World Series?
I'd appreciate a mailing. Thanks,
rickc@corp.sgi.com
|
9784 | From: einari@rhi.hi.is (Einar Indridason)
Subject: Re: How to the disks copy protected.
Lines: 31
Nntp-Posting-Host: hengill.rhi.hi.is
In <1993Apr21.085848.12704W@lumina.edb.tih.no> ketil@edb.tih.no (Ketil Albertsen,TIH) writes:
>May we interpret this as an offer to volunteer as editor for a
>"Copy protection FAQ" ? I am quite sure that I am not alone welcoming such
>an initiative! *I* will volunteer to ask some of the questions, if you will
>provide the answers :-)
Ok, here could be the first question or answer or something:
Q: I want to copyprotect a program I wrote. How should I do it?
A: You would be wise not to copyprotect that program. You see, those
people that wants to get a cracked copy of your program will go to
various length to crack your program, and some of those crackers
are good, and know the common tricks.
So, the copy protection wouldn't stop those.
Ok, then. What about legitimate users? Copy protection can be a hassle
for legitimate users, and can hinder them in their work, expecially
if there is some "key" item that can get lost.
So, the copy protection wouldn't help much of the legitimate users, but
would make life somewhat of a misery for them.
(This is my opinion, and I speak as a legitimate user :-)
You are of course free to have your opinion about this subject....
--
einari@rhi.hi.is
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9785 | From: u122743@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw
Subject: QUESTION: Video Projector
Organization: Computer Center, NCU, Taiwan, R.O.C.
Lines: 15
I am setting up a video-aid for a computer room for the teacher to share his
display with the class.
I have seen people using video projector, TV sets and large monitor to do
presentations before. I am told that there are three ways to connect video
projector: composite, Y/C & RGB.
Can anyone explain to me the difference and their likely costs?
Please reply to my INETNET E-mail account as well as posting in bulletin:
u129008@sparc20.nuc.edu.tw
I also like to know if there are TELNET or KERMIT for windows.
Tim Chen
|
9786 | From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Subject: Re: vangus nerve (vagus nerve)
Article-I.D.: pitt.19397
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
Lines: 16
In article <52223@seismo.CSS.GOV> bwb@seismo.CSS.GOV (Brian W. Barker) writes:
>mostly right. Is there a connection between vomiting
>and fainting that has something to do with the vagus nerve?
>
Stimulation of the vagus nerve slows the heart and drops the blood
pressure.
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Gordon Banks N3JXP | "Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and
geb@cadre.dsl.pitt.edu | it is shameful to surrender it too soon."
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9787 | From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian)
Subject: Turkish Government Agents on UseNet Lie Through Their Teeth!
Article-I.D.: urartu.1993Apr15.204512.11971
Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
Lines: 63
In revision of history <9304131827@zuma.UUCP> as posted by Turkish Government
Agents under the guise of sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) LIE in response to
article <1993Apr13.033213.4148@urartu.sdpa.org> hla@urartu.sdpa.org and
scribed:
[(*] Orhan Gunduz is blown up. Gunduz receives an ultimatum: Either
[(*] he gives up his honorary position or he will be "executed". He
[(*] refuses. "Responsibility" is claimed by JCAG and SDPA.
[(*] May 4, 1982 - Cambridge, Massachusetts
[(*] Orhan Gunduz, the Turkish honorary consul in Boston, would not bow
[(*] to the Armenian terrorist ultimatum that he give up his title of
[(*] "honorary consul". Now he is attacked and murdered in cold blood.
[(*] President Reagan orders an all-out manhunt-to no avail. An eye-
[(*] witness who gave a description of the murderer is shot down. He
[(*] survives... but falls silent. One of the most revolting "triumphs" in
[(*] the senseless, mindless history of Armenian terrorism. Such a murder
[(*] brings absolutely nothing - except an ego boost for the murderer
[(*] within the Armenian terrorist underworld, which is already wallowing
[(*] in self-satisfaction.
[(*]
[(*] Were you involved in the murder of Sarik Ariyak?
[(*] December 17, 1980 - Sydney
[(*] Two Nazi Armenians massacre Sarik Ariyak and his bodyguard, Engin
[(*] Sever. JCAG and SDPA claim responsibility.
Mr. Turkish Governmental Agent: prove that the SDPA even existed in 1980 or
1982! Go ahead, provide us the newspaper accounts of the assassinations and
show us the letters SDPA! The Turkish government is good at excising text from
their references, let's see how good thay are at adding text to verifiable
newspaper accounts!
The Turkish government can't support any of their anti-Armenian claims as
typified in the above scribed garbage! That government continues to make
false and libelous charges for they have no recourse left after having made
fools out of through their attempt at a systematic campaign at denying and
covering up the Turkish genocide of the Armenians.
Just like a dog barking at a moving bus, it barks, jumps, yells, until the
bus stops, at which point it just walks away! Such will be with this posting!
Turkish agents level the most ridiculous charges, and when brought to answer,
they are silent, like the dog after the bus stops!
The Turkish government feels it can funnel a heightened state of ultra-
nationalism existing in Turkey today onto UseNet and convince people via its
revisionist, myopic, and incidental view of themselves and their place in the
world.
The resulting inability to address Armenian and Greek refutations of Turkey`s
re-write of history is to refer to me as a terrorist, and worse, claim --
as part of the record -- I took responsibility for the murder of 2 people!
What a pack of raging fools, blinded by anti-Armenian fascism. It's too bad
the socialization policies of the Republic of Turkey requires it to always
find non-Turks to de-humanize! Such will be their downfall!
--
David Davidian dbd@urartu.sdpa.org | "How do we explain Turkish troops on
S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies | the Armenian border, when we can't
P.O. Box 382761 | even explain 1915?"
Cambridge, MA 02238 | Turkish MP, March 1992
|
9788 | From: gspira@nyx.cs.du.edu (Greg Spira)
Subject: Re: Why Spanky?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Lines: 27
boone@psc.edu (Jon Boone) writes:
>On Mon, 12 Apr 93 00:53:14 GMT in <<1993Apr12.005314.5700@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>> Greg Spira (gspira@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
>:>Does anybody in the Pittsburgh area know why Mike LaValliere was released?
>:>Last year I kept saying that Slaught should get the bulk of the playing time,
>:>that he was clearly the better player at this point, but Leyland insisted on
>:>keeping a pretty strict platoon. And now he is released? That doesn't
>:>make any sense to me.
>Greg,
> The story goes like this:
> Spanky is too slow! If he were quicker, he would still be here.
>But with Slaught and Tom Prince, they didn't want to lose Prince in order
>to bring up that 11th pitcher. Slaught is about as good as Spanky and
>Prince is coming along nicely!
Well, my question still hasn't been answered: if Spanky was bad enough to
release this year, why did he get so much playing time last year? Yes, I know
he was part of a platoon, and that's why he got more playing time than
Slaught, but that doesn't answer the question. If Slaught was so obviously
better this year, wasn't this also obvious last year, and shouldn't he
have been taking away some of Spanky's playing time against righties?
Greg
|
9789 | From: jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen)
Subject: Re: top 10 reasons why i love CR (not for the humor impaired)
Article-I.D.: magnus.1993Apr6.194738.20021
Distribution: na
Organization: The Ohio State University
Lines: 28
Nntp-Posting-Host: magnusug.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
In article <1993Apr6.185328.24947@news.cs.brandeis.edu> andyh@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Andrew J. Huang) writes:
>In article <1993Apr6.180456.17573@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) writes:
>>In article <1993Apr06.133319.7008@metrics.com> tomh@metrics.com (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>>>CHINTS@ISCS.NUS.SG writes:
>>>> Here are "another" ten reasons why we should all love CR
>>
>>Or the spectacle of "Macho Real Men" who would never bother to read the
>>magazine but are more than apt to criticize it.
>>
>
>But that's the point. We _do_ read it, or at least we did. Then we
>found that their recommendations were useless and uninformed. Then we
>write lists. The CR flame war is so easy to start because they are so
>wrong and claim to be so right and so thorough.
>
>-andy
>
>
Ok if you are so right, name a few good examples that were brought up.
john
--
John Nielsen MAGNUS Consultant ______ ______ __ __
"To you Baldrick, the Renaissance was just /\ __ \ /\ ___\ /\ \/\ \
something that happened to other people, \ \ \/\ \\ \___ \\ \ \_\ \
wasn't it?" - The Black Adder \ \_____\\/\_____\\ \_____\
|
9790 | From: z_millerwl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Subject: ASTROS FOR REAL?
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University
Lines: 6
WHO THINKS THE ASTROS ARE GOING PLACES???
THEY'RE CURRENTLY FIRST PLACE.
THEY'RE 5-4, 5-1 ON THE ROAD!
|
9791 | From: cwwhite@vax2.concordia.ca (Stephen White)
Subject: Re: Gritz/JBS/Liberty Lobby/LaRouche/Christic Insitute/Libertarian/...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41
Nntp-Posting-Host: vax2.concordia.ca
Organization: Concordia University
Lines: 25
In article <C5L2BC.C2x.1@cs.cmu.edu>, rubinoff+@cs.cmu.edu (Robert Rubinoff) writes...
>In article <93105.230230U23590@uicvm.uic.edu> <U23590@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>Note that Bo Gritz was on the Populist party ticket with David
>>Duke (for veep) in 1988 until he found out that Duke was leading
>>he ticket, when he withdrew his candidacy. So Gritz gave up his
>>chance to be Vice President of the US just to aviod supporting
>>Duke.
>I'd hardly call that "giving up his chance to be Vice President of the US";
>the chance of the Populist Party ticket winning is essentially nil. Still,
>it does imply that he doesn't want to be associated with Duke.
> Robert
Exactly, after all he was in the same party, probably just didn't want the
bad press that being directly associated with Duke would bring. Conversely,
is his disdain for David Duke supposed to make us ideolize him? I mean
a stand against neo-nazism ... Whoa! Now that's progressive! Come on.
I certainly know that I would refuse and openly denounce my Vice Presidency
if it meant putting him in control.
--Stephen White
| "Live simply that others may simply live" --Mohandas K. Gandhi |
|
9792 | From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Subject: Re: Ax the ATF
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Lines: 13
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com
In article <donbC5sL69.F7I@netcom.com>, donb@netcom.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
> It's hard to know what/who to believe. However, the letter I received from
> the BATF, in response to one I sent to Bentsen, said that there was a search
> warrant AND an arrest warrant.
Check again. You may find that the arrest warrant was issued AFTER the
first firefight.
--
cdt@rocket.sw.stratus.com --If you believe that I speak for my company,
OR cdt@vos.stratus.com write today for my special Investors' Packet...
|
9793 | From: stssdxb@st.unocal.com (Dorin Baru)
Subject: RE: was:Go Hezbollah!
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Lines: 68
hernlem@chess.ncsu.edu (Brad Hernlem) writes:
>I just thought that I would make it clear, in case you are not familiar with
>my past postings on this subject; I do not condone attacks on civilians.
>Hezbollah and other Lebanese Resistance fighters are skilled at precision
>bombing of SLA and Israeli targets. I find such methods to be far more
>restrained and responsible than the Israeli method of shelling and bombing
>villages with the hope that a Hezbollah member will be killed along with
>the civilians murdered. I do not consider the killing of combatants to be
>murder. Soldiers are trained to die for their country. Three IDF soldiers
>did their duty the other day. These men need not have died if their government
>had kept them on Israeli soil.
Is there any Israeli a civilian, in your opinion ?
Now, I do not condone myself bombing villages, any kind of villages.
But you claim these are villages with civilians, and Iraelis claim they are
camps filled with terrorists. You claim that israelis shell the villages with the
'hope' of finding a terrorist or so. If they kill one, fine, if not, too bad,
civilians die, right ? I am not so sure.
As somebody wrote, Saddam Hussein had no problems using civilians in disgusting
manner. And he also claimed 'civilians murdered'. Let me ask you, isn't there
at least a slight chance that you (not only, and the question is very general,
no insult) are doing a similar type of propaganda in respect to civilians in
southern Lebanon ?
Now, a lot people who post here consider 'Israeli soil' kind of Mediteranean sea.
How do you define Israeli soil ? From what you say, if you do not clearly
recognize the state of Israel, you condone killing israelis anywhere.
>Dorin, are you aware that the IDF sent helicopters and gun-boats up the
>coast of Lebanon the other day and rocketted a Palestinian refugee north of
>Beirut. Perhaps I should ask YOU "what qualifies a person for murder?":
I do not know what was the pupose of the action you describe. If it was
to kill civilians (I doubt), I certainly DO NOT CONDONE IT. If civilians were
killed, i do not condone it.
>That they are Palestinian?
>That they are children and may grow up to be "terrorists"?
>That they are female and may give birth to little terrorists?
>Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
Mr. Hernlem, it was YOU, not ME, who was showing a huge satisfaction for 3
israelis (human beings by most standards, Don't know about your standards) killed.
If you ask me those questions, I will have no problem answering (not with a
question, as you did) : No, NOBODY is qualified candidate for murder, nothing
justifies murder. I have the feeling that you may be able yourself to make
similar statements, maybe after eliminating all Israelis, jews, ? Am I wrong ?
Now tell me, did you also condone Saddam's scuds on israeli 'soldiers' in, let's
say, Tel Aviv ? From what I understand, a lot of palestineans cheered. What does
it show? It does not qualify for freedom fighting to me ? But again, I may be
wrong, and the jewish controlled media distorted the information, and I am just
an ignorant victim of the media, like most of us.
Dorin
|
9794 | From: cmh@eng.cam.ac.uk (C.M. Hicks)
Subject: Re: MICROPHONE PRE-AMP/LOW NOISE/PHANTOM POWERED
Organization: cam.eng
Lines: 22
Nntp-Posting-Host: tw100.eng.cam.ac.uk
davidj@rahul.net (David Josephson) writes:
>In <C5JJJ2.1tF@cmcl2.nyu.edu> ali@cns.nyu.edu (Alan Macaluso) writes:
>>I'm looking to build a microphone preamp that has very good low-noise characteristics, large clean gain, and incorportates phantom power (20-48 volts (dc)) for a PZM microphone. I'm leaning towards a good, low-cost (??) instrumentation amplifier to maintain the balanced input from the microphone, for its good CMRR, internal compensation, and because i can use a minimal # of parts.
>>Does anyone out there have any experience, suggestions, advice, etc...that they'd like to pass on, I'd greatly appreciate it.
>Without doing anything really tricky, the best I've seen is the
>Burr-Brown INA103. Their databook shows a good application of this
>chip as a phantom power mic pre.
I've had very good results from the SSM2016 from PMI (part of Analogue
Devices). They have also now introduced the SSM2017 which looks good on
paper, but which I haven't tried yet.
Christopher
--
==============================================================================
Christopher Hicks | Paradise is a Linear Gaussian World
cmh@uk.ac.cam.eng | (also reported to taste hot and sweaty)
==============================================================================
|
9795 | From: sekell@bb1t.monsanto.com
Subject: Monthly Posting: Buick Grand National/Regal T-Type mailing list
Lines: 16
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO
Monthly posting regarding the Buick Grand National / Regal T-Type mailing list.
This list is for owners and other parties interested in the 82-87 Buick Grand
Nationals, Regal T-Types, GNXs, and other turbocharged Regals. Discussions
include technical information and parts sources. Particular emphasis is given
to performance enhancements and racing.
To join, or ask, about the mailing list, contact:
gnttype-request@srvsn2.monsanto.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Scott Keller +1 314 537 6317 The Agricultural Group of Monsanto Company
sekell@bb1t.monsanto.com KA0WCH packet: ka0wch@k0pfx.mo.usa.na
Keeper of the Buick Grand National / Regal T-Type mailing list
|
9796 | Subject: Re: BMW Nostalgia Question from a Neophyte
From: vech@Ra.MsState.Edu (Craig A. Vechorik)
Organization: Mississippi State University
Nntp-Posting-Host: ra.msstate.edu
Lines: 17
To go one step further, you could write Roland Slabon, Pres. of the
Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners Ltd at P.O. box 67, Exeter, New Hampshire
03833 and he'll send you copy of the bimonthly rag with info as to where
to send your $12 bucks if ya want to join. As far as the price of '60's
Beemers, it varies wildly, from a low of around $1000 for an unrestored
bike that still runs (like an R50 or R60) to $4500 or so for a restored
R69S. Don't listen to that bull about the old bmw's not being "good
enough" to ride in todays world.. Hell, I'm riding my 1956 R26 Single
from Mississippi to the BMW MOA national rally in Oshkosh, Wisconsin
on the 22nd of July this year.
Sincerely,
Craig Vechorik
BMW MOA Ambassador #9462
BMW Vintage
Bulletin tech editor #1373
DOD #843
"REAL BMW's have ROUND tail lights and ROLLER cranks"
|
9797 | From: craigb@vccsouth03.its.rpi.edu (Brian Craig)
Subject: speakers for sale
Nntp-Posting-Host: vccsouth03.its.rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Lines: 22
For sale :
Bose A5 subwoofer 1 month old
2 Advent minis 4 months old
email offers to
craigb@rpi.edu
|
9798 | From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: Clipper considered harmful
Distribution: inet
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Lines: 19
In article <1r24us$oeh@agate.berkeley.edu>, shirriff@sprite.berkeley.edu (Ken Shirriff) writes:
> Imagine archiving all pay-phone conversations, so if someone turns out
> to be a drug dealer, you can listen to all their past drug deals. And
> archive calls to/from suspected Mafia members, potential terrorists,
> radicals, etc. Imagine the convenience for the police of being able to
> get a warrant now and listening to all the calls the World Trade Center
> bombers made in the past year.
>
> Since archiving would be such a powerful tool and so easy to do, why
> wouldn't it happen?
Apart from the storage and search requirements, because the evidence
is inadmissible: wiretaps require a warrant. And as soon as one
such case comes to light, all previous cases are likely to be discovered,
and thrown out. There was an article in the NY Times a few months ago
about how many convictions in the state might be invalidated because
they relied on pen registers -- and the Court of Appeals ruled that
pen registers were equivalent to wiretaps, and hence required warrants
under New York law.
|
9799 | From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: Militello update
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Distribution: usa
Lines: 25
In article <93602@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt0523e@prism.gatech.EDU (Michael Andre Mule) writes:
>
>HEY!!! All you Yankee fans who've been knocking my prediction of Baltimore.
Um. How many games have the Orioles won?
>You flooded my mailbox with cries of "Militello's good, Militello's good."
He is, or will be.
>Where is he??!! I noticed he got skipped over after that oh so strong first
>outing. He's not by any chance in Columbus now, is he? Please don't tell
>me you're relying on this guy to be the *fourth*, not the fifth, but the
>*fourth* starter on this brittle pitching staff.
No, currently there's no room for him in the rotation. Key is having
a Most Impressive April. Abbott is pitching well. Perez is back.
Wickman has pitched his way into the rotation, and is holding his spot
with an outstanding performance his last time out. And Kamieniecki
isn't doing too poorly himself.
If the Yankees find themselves in need of a starter, Militello will
get another chance. Until then, he'll have to wait in line.
-Valentine
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