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98_196
-those relationships just didn't come together?
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98_198
And what do you think?
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communication behavior
98_200
So, you-you--
other
communication behavior
98_202
You would have been fine if they didn't- if they didn't give you those-those shots. Yeah.
reflection
communication behavior
98_204
Oh, so, the-the-the mailbox, where did that come in? That was the-
question
communication behavior
98_206
-first DUI that got you.
reflection
communication behavior
98_208
That must have been scary.
other
communication behavior
98_210
Oh, that was blackout type?
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communication behavior
98_212
Right. Yeah.
other
communication behavior
98_214
Oh, okay.
other
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98_216
I'm-I'm sorry. I didn't mean to assume that-
other
communication behavior
98_218
-it was blackout that-- Forgive me for that.
other
communication behavior
98_220
Um, so, that it was sort of after that that the girlfriend-- Your girlfriend, I don't know, well, her name. Um, your girlfriend decided-- The mailbox and she's--
reflection
communication behavior
98_222
Mm-hmm.
other
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98_224
Yeah.
other
communication behavior
98_226
Oh.
other
communication behavior
98_228
Yeah. You felt like she was the only person that, um, you had in your life, you needed your friends and--
reflection
communication behavior
98_230
No one likes to be controlled, uh, yeah. Yeah. Uh, and, in what ways, well, did you feel that, um, uh, at any time, did you feel controlled by your friends. You said they-they made you drink those shots. That-that sounded like maybe you felt a little controlled? But-- [crosstalk]
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98_232
Yeah.
other
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98_234
Right, they weren't looking out for your best interest at that point.
reflection
communication behavior
98_236
And then sent you out in your car.
reflection
communication behavior
98_238
It's a hindsight again.
reflection
communication behavior
98_240
Yeah.
other
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98_242
Hindsight? Oh, yeah, they'll-- it'll take the- it'll take the blame. Um, so, you still-- Do you still, uh, you know, you started drinking again, and then, um, the second DUI, what-- Is it the same circle of social-social circle, same friends?
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communication behavior
98_244
Same type of situation. [crosstalk]
reflection
communication behavior
98_246
So, they're important to you?
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98_248
Mm-hmm. Yeah. And-and sometimes, um, people have friends who are friends, but then there's friends who would stay on in our lives and are constant. So, these would be your constant core--
reflection
communication behavior
98_250
Yeah, okay.
other
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98_252
Have you ever had, um, uh, interest outside, um, the social drinking, the friends, um, like, what do you do when you're not with them?
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98_254
Yeah. And any other relationship, if you don't mind me asking-- [crosstalk]
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98_256
How's that going?
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98_258
Oh what-- So, what does serious look like? Um--
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98_260
Yeah. That's all right, yeah. That's good. It sounds like you know yourself pretty well.
reflection
communication behavior
98_262
Okay. Right. So, um, now that we-we are looking at, um, your second DUI and, um-- Well, so now, Mike, if you don't mind me asking, what would you do differently, um-um, from here on now?
question
communication behavior
98_264
Since the co- the court sent you and we have to sort of explore what would happen if you went out and did this again.
therapist_input
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98_266
Yeah. Is there somebody that you could call?
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98_268
Right.
other
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98_270
They'll come.
reflection
communication behavior
98_272
Yeah. They'll come. As long as you got the money, they'll come and get you. Yeah.
other
communication behavior
98_274
Yeah.
other
communication behavior
98_276
Oh, so, when you use your-your bar money, it would be somewhere else?
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98_278
Your bar money would be somewhere else, not in your wallet?
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98_280
There you go. Okay, yeah. So, that, y-yeah.
other
communication behavior
98_282
That makes- that makes a lot of sense. So then you'd have your money tucked away someplace different.
reflection
communication behavior
98_284
Mm-hmm.
other
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98_286
Sounds like a good plan.
reflection
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98_288
Yeah. So, uh, how often do you think you'll be needing that plan in the--
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98_290
Right.
other
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98_292
Mm-hmm.
other
communication behavior
98_294
And then-- Yeah, and then also you said if you're going to have people, uh, you're gonna be drinking for the Super Bowl. Was is it Super Bowl?
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98_296
I'm sorry, I'm not a football fan but it's Super Bowl coming up, right?
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98_298
So, you'd have them in and, um, I'm just curious about the folks who are leaving your house, would they-- Would-would you be concerned about them, there'll be a taxi. Sometimes designated drivers I--
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98_300
So, it would be up to them?
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98_302
Mm-hmm.
other
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98_304
It sounds like you have-- You've thought about this, and you're-you're willing to put some things in place, the-the wallet, um, money in the wallet and-and for the taxi-
reflection
communication behavior
98_306
Have folks in to-to socialize for an event, and that you still have your-your social-- Your friends and your core group and-and, uh, just be careful. What was the six months of not drinking like for you? If you were to choose to not drink.
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98_308
Six months is a- is a long time. There was, um-- Try to think back, were there- were there other people? Was it- was it just you?
question
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98_310
All right.
other
communication behavior
98_312
So-so, if you were not to-- If you were to go with the plan of maybe not drinking, which you mentioned-
reflection
communication behavior
98_314
-um, uh, your girlfriend Mary is-is not a part of your life-
reflection
communication behavior
98_316
-right now.
reflection
communication behavior
98_318
Would there be something else that would, um, sort of, uh, fill in that-- The-the friends area, do you think?
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98_320
But, yeah, I-I see what-what you're saying, for sure. Um, there-there's those friends that they drink but they don't drink that much, I heard you saying.
reflection
communication behavior
98_322
Mm. Sure.
other
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98_324
Right.
other
communication behavior
98_326
Yeah. So--
other
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98_328
Mm-hmm.
other
communication behavior
98_330
Um, it's one drink per hour.
therapist_input
communication behavior
98_332
Mm-hmm.
other
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98_334
Or one shot or-
therapist_input
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98_336
-one glass of wine or one beer.
therapist_input
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98_338
Um-
other
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98_340
Mm-hmm.
other
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98_342
Yeah. Uh, the, uh- the idea of, um, having the friends and not drinking, is that something that i-- Would be even, uh, a reality?
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98_344
Then, who are- who-who-who are they?
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98_346
Would it--
other
communication behavior
98_348
Yeah, so wha-what would-- What do you think it would do to the relationship of you not drinking but still being with the-these folks-- These friends?
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98_350
Would-would it work out and--
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98_352
It's uncomfortable.
reflection
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98_354
What makes it uncomfortable?
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98_356
How-- So, messing with you would be like what?
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98_358
Oh, and-and-- Oh, I see, yeah.
other
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98_360
Yeah, like sort of-
other
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98_362
Oh, yeah, yeah.
other
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98_364
Right, so you make--
other
communication behavior
98_366
Mm-hmm, and-
other
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98_368
-it's [unintelligible 00:24:05]. I-I-I know that you, um- you value friendship and-and friendship is very important, uh, and, I'm just wondering how important, um, it would be for, uh, you to remain friends with them and still have your-your sobriety.
question
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98_370
And see what happens.
reflection
communication behavior
98_372
Yeah-yeah, how important would it- would it be? Zero being not so important and 10 being pretty important that you--
question
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98_374
Mm-hmm. Okay. [unintelligible 00:24:52] something you'd be willing to try. Okay.
therapist_input
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98_376
It sounds-- That sounds good.
other
communication behavior
98_378
Well, maybe that's something that we could talk about next time if you- if you want to.
therapist_input
communication behavior
98_380
Yeah.
other
communication behavior
98_382
Well, I sure-sure would, um, tell the-the people who-who need to know-
therapist_input
communication behavior
98_385
-and then, um- and then it would be up to you mostly. The choice is-is completely yours. And, um, it sounds like to me that there's no reason why you wouldn't be able to do this. You've given it a lot of thought, and you have some plans in place, and anything else that you might come up with, uh, to help you stay out of the driver's seat when you've been drinking.
other
communication behavior
98_387
Then you wouldn't have to worry.
reflection
communication behavior
98_389
Yeah, because worry's no fun.
other
communication behavior
98_391
All right. Well, thank you Mike. I appreciate this.
other
communication behavior
98_393
Thank you.
other
communication behavior
99_0
Steve, before we're done with our visit today, I was wondering if you'd be willing to take a few minutes to talk about your drinking.
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