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TheGeekster#8508: (without the cover)
TheGeekster#8508: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/594216125999349793/maxresdefault.png
TheGeekster#8508: or https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/594216161621704880/23929933-192-640x1053.png
TheFifthAce#4128: that one
TheFifthAce#4128: bottom
TheFifthAce#4128: windows installer detects an OS on one of the drives btw, it just wont boot from them
TheFifthAce#4128: when I go to install drivers I can go to X: and it shows windows folders
TheGeekster#8508: X is the boot USB
TheFifthAce#4128: :Thonkang:
TheFifthAce#4128: wack
TheGeekster#8508: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/594216857851002949/unknown.png
Deinsti#5907: Yeah X is ramdrive
TheGeekster#8508: take the side off, and see if you have that cable, that's the SAS cable that goes from the raid controller, the pcie card, to the drive backplane
TheFifthAce#4128: yes I have that cable but it is not plugged into anything
TheGeekster#8508: ah awesome, okay you can just get a card then, 1 sec |
TheGeekster#8508: wait, america, nm, see how much a LSI-9211-8i is
TheFifthAce#4128: 25$
TheGeekster#8508: probably best bet, they're very common cards and well supported
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/594217195328765973/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: Do you think I could just sell it without bothering with all of of this?
TheFifthAce#4128: Just sell it without knowing if the drives work
TheFifthAce#4128: like 100$ as is or smth
TheFifthAce#4128: the drives spin up so I assume they work
TheGeekster#8508: I mean, do you have a use for this server?
TheFifthAce#4128: lol no
TheFifthAce#4128: I bought it because it was cheap af and I could flip it
TheFifthAce#4128: 50$
TheGeekster#8508: eh sell it onwards then
Deinsti#5907: If you were in the UK I might have bought it off you
Deinsti#5907: But since you're US nah |
TheFifthAce#4128: It'd be like
TheFifthAce#4128: 400$ to ship to uk
Deinsti#5907: Postage would be a fortune yeah
TheFifthAce#4128: this thing weighs an absolute ton
Deinsti#5907: oof
Deinsti#5907: nvm found it
Deinsti#5907: ~~30kg~~ jesus christ
Deinsti#5907: *It costs £42 just to have it delivered from Scotland*
Deinsti#5907: @TheFifthAce It would be $270 to have it shipped to the UK
Deinsti#5907: Yeah that's a big nope
TheFifthAce#4128: :ULTRAKEK:
Deleted User#0000: can i get computer help pls
MythologicalZ#3752: No!
Deleted User#0000: i think my motherboard may be bricked and i want a second opinion before i RMA it
Abe.#3344: Oh shoot. I'm updating my laptop from win 7 to win 10 and the screens gone black, what do I do? |
Abe.#3344: @Deleted User Does it not work at all?
Deleted User#0000: there was a power outage this morning
Deleted User#0000: the power came back, and the status LEDs on my keyboard are on, which tells me it isn't the power supply
Deleted User#0000: but nothing happens when I push the power button
Abe.#3344: it could still be the power supply, one of the cables may have shorted or something.
Abe.#3344: and It could be the CPU
JustinXenyx#8854: Doesn't mean the whole power supply works, just because peripheral power works
Abe.#3344: ^
Abe.#3344: @JustinXenyx What do I do about my black screen during an update?
Abe.#3344: power button doesn't work, but I can unplug the charger because there is no battery rn
Abe.#3344: and it's been like this for ages
Tristan#7299: hi guys any OBS people in the house willing to explain what happens to the video when the encoder gets overloaded
TheFifthAce#4128: frames get dropped
TheFifthAce#4128: instead of being recorded they dont
Tristan#7299: and more importantly why is it happening on a 570 8gb nitro plus when all im doing is recording call of duty 4 with recommended OBS settings other then transforming from 1366x768 to 1080p |
TheFifthAce#4128: what bitrate
TheFifthAce#4128: and what cpu
Tristan#7299: im recording not streaming
TheFifthAce#4128: ...there is still a bitrate for it
Tristan#7299: also it is a 1200 R3 CPU
TheFifthAce#4128: You're trying to record with that?
Tristan#7299: i was encoding on the GPU according to settings also i was using the high quality recording preset
Tristan#7299: im not seeing any bitrate setting for recording in OBS
Tristan#7299: i see that in the streaming settings but not for regular recording
TheFifthAce#4128: used to be able to set it manually, hm, I guess it's just "recording quality" now
Tristan#7299: i dont understand this because its an 8gb card using the AMD encoder and given the age and low requirements for the cod4 there should be no issues
Tristan#7299: unless the OC on the gpu is causing it to act funny
kittycat959#2895: @Tristan give relive a go?
kittycat959#2895: its pretty good
Jam#0384: ReLive and ShadowPlay are both kinda better than OBS |
Jam#0384: IMO, OBS has no use these days
Abe.#3344: Can someone check my £550 budget PC for a friend? I know it's over budget, but hopefully the price will go down enough on 7/7 when AMD 3000 launches. It's for light - mid gaming and needs to be upgradable for him, hence the mobo.
Abe.#3344: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/obliveater95/saved/Gdvq3C
Abe.#3344: Ignore the name
TheGeekster#8508: looks alright, does he not want to go used for some reason?
TheFifthAce#4128: if you go used you can get much better parts
TheFifthAce#4128: :ThonkFish:
Abe.#3344: Warranties
TheFifthAce#4128: ...used parts still have warranty
Abe.#3344: Not all
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah but some
Abe.#3344: Very few in my area anyway
Abe.#3344: Anyway apart from the CPU, I'd say it's slightly overspecced.
Abe.#3344: Might switch to a 2600 depending on prices
Abe.#3344: @TheFifthAce is the monitor decent for the price? IPS is better than TN and VA right? |
Abe.#3344: For 1080p 60hz anyway
TheGeekster#8508: aye IPS screens are nice
JustinXenyx#8854: IPS is the best, VA is pretty much the step between IPS and TN, while TN is pretty much the lowest quality of all 3
Abe.#3344: Yeah, thats what I thought. It's the only IPS monitor in that price range, on PCP anyway
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, i'd use a different power supply and spend extra money to get the Ryzen 5 1400 if it has to be new
JustinXenyx#8854: then again if you wait a bit you'll get much better prices on Ryzen 1000 because of Ryzen 3000
Abe.#3344: Yeah, that's what I'm waiting for
Abe.#3344: I heard there will be a significant drop on 2600s, would a 2600 and a 560 be better? Unless the 570 drops too.
JustinXenyx#8854: no, dont go with a RX560
JustinXenyx#8854: a 560 pretty much matches the 570 in price
Abe.#3344: Oh right, didn't know that.
Abe.#3344: I don't like the CPU much tho tbh, it seems really weak, it's basically a 2200g minus the g
Abe.#3344: But it comes with a wraith spire instead, so a little more OC potential.
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx anger, tn > va
TheFifthAce#4128: tn has lowest quality yes |
JustinXenyx#8854: if its a good tn yes, if not va
TheFifthAce#4128: but at least it has respectable response times
TheFifthAce#4128: I would use a TN over a VA panel for gaming
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean, realistically anything up to 20ms gtg is definitely usable for gaming
TheFifthAce#4128: @ va being at best 9ms
TheFifthAce#4128: angery
Jam#0384: my IPS 1440p Panel 4ms
Jam#0384: not the best
Jam#0384: but nice
Jam#0384: also 75hz :D
Daze#8232: On speecy there's written on ram 9-9-9-24 what does that mean?
sajanator3#3333: @Jam much better for recording tho
sajanator3#3333: obs
sajanator3#3333: there's less frame loss i think
sajanator3#3333: **i think** |
Jam#0384: I thought people found there was more frame loss with OBS
sajanator3#3333: oh
GoldenSky#4649: @Daze RAM timings
Daze#8232: What are ram timings?
GoldenSky#4649: Yes
GoldenSky#4649: They are yes
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3333-memory-timings-defined-cas-latency-trcd-trp-tras
Rinhai#6179: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/594430361207963654/unknown.png
Rinhai#6179: Fan test, not by me
boog#9487: Won’t do anything else what’s going on https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/594543444115062790/video.mov
JustinXenyx#8854: YOU MUST BE SHITTING ME
JustinXenyx#8854: Samsung G7A or G7C? @boog
boog#9487: I think
boog#9487: It says 700g on the back
JustinXenyx#8854: Different question, sandy bridge or ivy bridge? |
JustinXenyx#8854: Nvidia graphics or AMD?
boog#9487: No idea on cpu just found it in a dumpster but it’s it’s nvidia
JustinXenyx#8854: So a G7C then, nice.
JustinXenyx#8854: My guess is that the GPU is fried
boog#9487: Dammit
boog#9487: Is it replaceable?
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah, but its a bitch to do so
JustinXenyx#8854: It needs pretty much full disassembly
boog#9487: I’ve done that before
boog#9487: Is the gpu mxm?
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, GPU is MXM and CPU is socketed
boog#9487: Like normal socket or pins
JustinXenyx#8854: Mobile socket, meaning pins on the CPU
boog#9487: Oof
boog#9487: Alright this thing needs a lot but it can live |
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, atleast the Display is fine
JustinXenyx#8854: its somewhat expensive to replace that 120Hz panel lmao
boog#9487: 120hz?!
JustinXenyx#8854: Yup
boog#9487: Fucking shit ima play hl1 120fps
JustinXenyx#8854: I can tell that you found this thing at the dumpster lmao, you don't seem to have that much knowledge on the laptop yet
boog#9487: Yeah
boog#9487: All I know is it’s in pretty shit condition
boog#9487: Other than it turns on
TheFifthAce#4128: so basically
TheFifthAce#4128: whats a not shit ps3 emulator
TheFifthAce#4128: I want to play the uncharted games
Lady Mipha#0611: There’s not many @TheFifthAce
JustinXenyx#8854: As far as i know, there is only RPCS3
SuSSudio#2688: ^^ |
There's no other PS3 emus that's as "reliable" as RPCS3 available for download...
SuSSudio#2688: PS3's hardware is just too difficult to emulate
nacabaro#2138: Wouldn't be easier to just get a PS3 slim
nacabaro#2138: They aren't that expensive anymore
nacabaro#2138: 85€ in :Shit_company:
TheFifthAce#4128: :Thonkang:
TheFifthAce#4128: I want to run them using better hardware
TheFifthAce#4128: which given the nature of ps3 emulator, doesn't seem like it would work too well
TheFifthAce#4128: :sadman:
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah, it would be a lot more practical to just buy a cheap aF PS3
JustinXenyx#8854: I think you still need massive rigs to run on native PS3 speed, so probably running them at higher graphics settings is not that good of an idea lol @TheFifthAce
TheGeekster#8508: You can't run them on better hardware anyway? like, the game is purely designed around that one design of hardware, doesn't matter what you run on, it'll try and run to ps3 level
TheGeekster#8508: yes you can fuck with ps1/2 games to make them look a little better, but eh with a ps3, good luck
Deinsti#5907: we'll get there one day
Deinsti#5907: But imho all the developers are focused on yuzu than RPCS3 |
TheGeekster#8508: It's a shame there can't ever b e commercial emulators, I'd happily pay someone £40 to play PS3 games on PC
JustinXenyx#8854: I remember bleem, a commercial PS1 emulator for the dreamcast and "ibm compatibles" that was sued by sony. While they won the lawsuit, apparently the legal costs were so high they went out of business
JustinXenyx#8854: And i do think that this emulators history did pretty much make the idea of commercializing an emulator an absolute no-go
JustinXenyx#8854: But a lot of open source emulators are crowd-founded via the likes of Patreon etc, so that helps a bit
TheGeekster#8508: aye, true but that's a ticking timebomb too
Deinsti#5907: or some platforms get no funding at all like Original Xbox and Atari Jaguar
Deinsti#5907: Which leads to broken, outdated, clunky emulators
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, but i think with OG Xbox its just better to pick up a cheap 360 or even a XB1 and run them via that
Deinsti#5907: OG Xbox maybe
JustinXenyx#8854: Microsoft pretty much made OG Xbox emulators pretty pointless, the OG disks are cheap and still compatible with their newest console
Deinsti#5907: But Jaguar? Saturn? 3DO?
JustinXenyx#8854: Hmm, true
Deinsti#5907: Saturn is still somewhat cheap
Deinsti#5907: But jaguars and 3DO's are expensive as hell
JustinXenyx#8854: but i would think that trying to reverse engineer some of these consoles is either A. very hard or B. somewhat expensive because of the rarity of the console |
Deinsti#5907: In the case of the Jaguar, it's expensive now but back in the early 2000's you could apparently get them for pennies
Palms#7772: My PC isn't posting after I moved it
Palms#7772: Just from the top of my desk to the bottom, no tilting or anything. Fans turn on and GPU lights are on but no signal from my monitor
TheGeekster#8508: sounds like it could be a loose cable that's come out
TheGeekster#8508: when you press the power button, does it shut down immediately?
Palms#7772: No fans just spin
Palms#7772: Now it's doing a long beep
Palms#7772: Fans keep spinning, and now ez debug is doing a long beep
TheFifthAce#4128: remount the ram
JustinXenyx#8854: have you tried ~~turning it on and off again~~ just simply reseating stuff like the ram or the gpu?
JustinXenyx#8854: those are the components that are most likely affected by even slight shaking
TheFifthAce#4128: one long beep usually means memory
TheFifthAce#4128: so
TheFifthAce#4128: reseat ram time :ZZZ:
Palms#7772: Alright, I'll do that |
Palms#7772: Tysm guys
Palms#7772: Reseated ram, beeping is gone but it's doing the same thing
Palms#7772: Just kinda. Idling with fans on
TheFifthAce#4128: ok so do you have display plugged into the graphics card, or the motherboard
Palms#7772: Graphics card, I don't have integrated
Palms#7772: Should I try with just 1 stick?
Palms#7772: I'm gonna try that
SussyBalls#4615: Try checking your board manual
Should show what the beep codes mean
Palms#7772: Beeping has stopped
Palms#7772: Now the bottom ez debug is on
SussyBalls#4615: Check the manual than and see what it means
SussyBalls#4615: though sometimes it's a bit weird, like my T3500 board that gave me a 1-4 code (fatal board failure) but turned on just fine
Palms#7772: Found it
Palms#7772: Sata cable was damaged slightly |
Palms#7772: I have spares
SussyBalls#4615: F
Palms#7772: Still doing it
Palms#7772: Now it says it's VGA
Palms#7772: I don't wanna have to reseat my gpu
Palms#7772: It's scary
Jam#0384: I use VGA all the time
Jam#0384: but my main rig is DP
MythologicalZ#3752: Not what he means
MythologicalZ#3752: You gotta reseat your card @Palms
MythologicalZ#3752: Not really another way around it
Jam#0384: i know i just dont care or know what his problem is
Jam#0384: :Hahahahaha:
Palms#7772: Alright. I'll do it now
MythologicalZ#3752: What board are you on? |
Jam#0384: If I knew I'd tell him
MythologicalZ#3752: Read up then 🙏
Palms#7772: B350m
Palms#7772: It's reseated and plugged In, I'm gonna power on now
Palms#7772: Same thing
Palms#7772: Is my GPU toast?
Palms#7772: WAIT NO THE LED IS BOOT
Palms#7772: not vga anymore
Palms#7772: So reseating my GPU fixed it but my ssd isn't being recognised
MythologicalZ#3752: Recheck your cables too then
Palms#7772: Alright
MythologicalZ#3752: Might be a bad sata power connection
Palms#7772: Yeah was thinking that, cable was bent so the port might be damaged too
Palms#7772: Actually let me check my drive first
TheFifthAce#4128: big bets that all your cables just got sh00k |
TheFifthAce#4128: fool
TheFifthAce#4128: real fool hours here myth
TheFifthAce#4128: :BigBets:
MythologicalZ#3752: Guess we'll see
Palms#7772: No debug lights but it's not posting
MythologicalZ#3752: Monitor connected?
Palms#7772: Yeah
MythologicalZ#3752: Reboot it, might just be stuck
Palms#7772: Boot drive light is still on
Palms#7772: Ssd might of died, it didn't click when I plugged it in. It was in there properly too
MythologicalZ#3752: SSD won't click
MythologicalZ#3752: Not a mechanical drive
MythologicalZ#3752: See if it'll boot into the BIOS without it
Palms#7772: Alright
Palms#7772: It made 3 loud beeps and the top 2 debug leds went on |
Palms#7772: Cpu and dram
Palms#7772: Any ideas?
Palms#7772: 3 long beeps
MythologicalZ#3752: @TheFifthAce Help the dude,dealing with clovis meme
TheFifthAce#4128: which mobo @Palms
Palms#7772: B350m
TheFifthAce#4128: ...
TheFifthAce#4128: do I need to list all the b350ms in existence
Palms#7772: Oh
Palms#7772: B350m gaming pro
TheFifthAce#4128: long beeps is ram
TheFifthAce#4128: make sure they're all the way in
Palms#7772: Alright
Palms#7772: They are, same thing happened
Palms#7772: Just 3 long beeps |
TheFifthAce#4128: take all but one stick out , make sure one stick is in A2
Palms#7772: Okay, all the leds except the Boot one went off and there weren't beeps
Palms#7772: I'm gonna unplug my HDD and try boot again with just ssd
Palms#7772: Its still doing it
Palms#7772: I'll buy another one, the sata port on it looked not the best
Palms#7772: Probably worn down, ive swapped it between machines a fair few times to save reinstalling windows
Palms#7772: Wait that doesn't explain why it isn't posting though
Palms#7772: How long will the mobo stay looking for a boot drive before it posts?
Palms#7772: I'll take it into a store in a couple hours
JustinXenyx#8854: the mobo looks for the boot drive after posting @Palms
Palms#7772: Then why am I getting no input
Palms#7772: I swear to god if my 2070 is fucked
yonder#2767: Any ideas why my fans are so loud even tho my CPU is only at 30%?
JustinXenyx#8854: @yonder Fan profiles configured wrong, fan is failing, fan is connected to the wrong connector
yonder#2767: Defo not the last, but fan profiles? |
yonder#2767: I'm gonna download afterburner to check thermals
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd use HWMonitor or Core Temp instead if you're trying to look at CPU temps
Palms#7772: Fixed it
Palms#7772: Used my 3rd sata port and it works now
Palms#7772: So my first 2 are damaged apparently
BigPierogi#3368: alright
JustinXenyx#8854: So, 1200 USD Gaming rig right?
JustinXenyx#8854: new parts, used parts?
BigPierogi#3368: new
BigPierogi#3368: All new
mi3night#2562: Tell him to wait a month for zen2
JustinXenyx#8854: does it need to be built now or can you wait a little?
BigPierogi#3368: He would prefer sooner
mi3night#2562: If he can’t wait for 7/7 then 8700k
JustinXenyx#8854: nah, you dumb? |
mi3night#2562: Then what cpu
JustinXenyx#8854: Ryzen 2k seems like a better overall fit for performance and value
BigPierogi#3368: He wants a 500gb ssd
BigPierogi#3368: and a 1-2tb hdd
JustinXenyx#8854: NVMe or SATA?
JustinXenyx#8854: or irrelevant?
BigPierogi#3368: If we can fit nvme
BigPierogi#3368: then nvme
BigPierogi#3368: in the budget
JustinXenyx#8854: NVMe X2 should be in the budget, its like 5-10 USD more than SATA
mi3night#2562: Pm961 is fast and cheap
JustinXenyx#8854: no used parts tho @mi3night
mi3night#2562: Oh yea shoot
BigPierogi#3368: He doesnt care if its amd or intel
mi3night#2562: Idk then |
BigPierogi#3368: Hes gonna be doing work and gaming
JustinXenyx#8854: What kinda games will he run?
BigPierogi#3368: He wont play too much
BigPierogi#3368: But he wants to run games like rust
BigPierogi#3368: maybe gta 5
JustinXenyx#8854: GTA 5 does favor NVIDIA; dunno about rust
JustinXenyx#8854: Any particular case preferences?
mi3night#2562: @JustinXenyx for $1200 I think he want the pc to last a long time
mi3night#2562: So he spend extra upfront
mi3night#2562: For what he’s doing a $300-400 pc is good enough
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean, on July 7 the new AMD cards launch, so i'd preferably wait to see how those perform and maybe get one of those
BigPierogi#3368: He can wait a few days
BigPierogi#3368: He mainly just wants the internal parts
JustinXenyx#8854: Nice, because Ryzen 3000 and the new radeon cards launch at the same time lmao
JustinXenyx#8854: he could either get a Ryzen 3k chip or a Ryzen 2k chip for a lower price |
BigPierogi#3368: I mean
BigPierogi#3368: we have 1200
BigPierogi#3368: So we might as well try to get the best we can
JustinXenyx#8854: exactly
BigPierogi#3368: What about the intel side?
JustinXenyx#8854: Intel seems pretty mediocre right now, although they did have a price drop for the chips itself, you still need an entire AC to cool them if you want to reach peak performance lmao
JustinXenyx#8854: + all the security issues Intel has right now
BigPierogi#3368: Also he would probably want a aftermarket cooler
BigPierogi#3368: for noise reasons
BigPierogi#3368: Cryoig h7 maybe?
BigPierogi#3368: Thats what I have and it stays pretty quiet
JustinXenyx#8854: good thinking, but i think we can go a bit stronger
BigPierogi#3368: lets get the main parts sorted first
BigPierogi#3368: Because we need to know how much heat it will produce
JustinXenyx#8854: right now i'm thinking Ryzen 2700 + GTX 1660Ti |
BigPierogi#3368: How much are those 2 together?
BigPierogi#3368: Also what website are you using to find them?
JustinXenyx#8854: pcpartpicker.com
BigPierogi#3368: oh also
BigPierogi#3368: he wants a monitor
BigPierogi#3368: he has a keyboard/mouse
JustinXenyx#8854: any preferences?
JustinXenyx#8854: 144Hz? IPS?
JustinXenyx#8854: IPS looks better, what a higher refresh rate does you should know yourself lol
BigPierogi#3368: I think he wanted a higher refresh rate
BigPierogi#3368: like 120-144
BigPierogi#3368: and 1080p is fine
BigPierogi#3368: also which 1660ti did you pick?
JustinXenyx#8854: Zotac Gaming
JustinXenyx#8854: i just picked one that was cheap and didn't suck major ass |
BigPierogi#3368: What psu should he get?
BigPierogi#3368: 750 watt?
BigPierogi#3368: Also
BigPierogi#3368: he wont Oc
JustinXenyx#8854: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QwpmYT This is a rough idea i have in mind right now
JustinXenyx#8854: we can easily swap the 2700X for a 2700 + cooler, keep that in mind
BigPierogi#3368: Alright
BigPierogi#3368: Will the cooler be noisy?
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean, its alright, i'd certainly prefer something like this tho: https://amazon.com/dp/B00PKJ21LW/
JustinXenyx#8854: so i'd probably go 2700 + that Thermalright Macho if we're talking buying rn
BigPierogi#3368: I think that might be better
BigPierogi#3368: Since he wont be major gaming
mi3night#2562: Oof
mi3night#2562: Pc are so expensive nowadays
JustinXenyx#8854: if we talk buying in 1-2 weeks, i'd say Ryzen 3600/3700 + Thermalright Macho and then swapping the 1660Ti for a Radeon 5700 |
BigPierogi#3368: We can leave this list
BigPierogi#3368: I can save it
mi3night#2562: My $350 pc is better except gpu and cpu
BigPierogi#3368: And in a few weeks we can talk
BigPierogi#3368: Or whenever they release the parts
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, just make sure to hit us up, so that we can discuss the new part changes in the list
BigPierogi#3368: Alrigh
BigPierogi#3368: Thanks for the help
BigPierogi#3368: Like thanks a lot
JustinXenyx#8854: No problem, i'm glad i was able to help out
yonder#2767: Is thermal paste supposed to do this? Kinda feel like it shouldn't https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595000733615521814/IMG_20190630_221935.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: nah, its fine
yonder#2767: Really?
yonder#2767: Cus barely any was actually on the part which touches the CPU
yonder#2767: It's all squished away |
DarknessFalls229#2286: as long as the cooler is making thermal contact with the CPU is fine
DarknessFalls229#2286: its supposed to squish out
yonder#2767: Okay. What's the best way to go about cleaning it off?
TheGeekster#8508: rubbing alcohol or makeup remover mostly
yonder#2767: But in the gaps. I'm currently picking it out with a pen knife
TheGeekster#8508: Yeahhhhhh, that's probably gonna be a manual process
TheGeekster#8508: you could try rinsing it out with water if you take the fan off? that might get rid of it between the fins easier
yonder#2767: That sounds was less boring, gonna do that
JustinXenyx#8854: you could just blast it with water
JustinXenyx#8854: that usually works
boog#9487: My be quiet tower cooler won’t fit my dell prebuilt mobo
boog#9487: Any fix?
boog#9487: It has the push in tab things and they won’t go in
TheGeekster#8508: You mean the holes don't line up?
boog#9487: No |
boog#9487: They line up
boog#9487: Won’t go in
boog#9487: Is there supposed to be a backplate with pop in pins
boog#9487: Because I can’t remove the backplate
boog#9487: It’s for 1155 too
boog#9487: I put the stock cooler back in just so I could use it
TheGeekster#8508: It should be the same pop pin mount as the stock cooler, but I'd check the instructions, I've fit bequiet coolers to Intel and they seem to work okay with the pin push things
boog#9487: My stock cooler screws in
boog#9487: Does that make a difference?
TheGeekster#8508: ah yeah, that's not a stock cooler for that socket, it sounds like your case has standoffs that screw in under the motherboard, where a stock should have holes that pins pop through
TheGeekster#8508: i don't think the cooler is gonna work with that case unfortunately, OEM computers like that are very efficient and fixed with their design
boog#9487: It’s not the case
boog#9487: It screws into a backplate built into the motherboard
boog#9487: It’s in my Corsair 200r case I can see the backplate when I take of the left side panel
yonder#2767: Finna do a system cleanup and see if it somehow helps my fans out a lil bit |
yonder#2767: I swear they're louder at idle now than they were playing games a month ago, back when the fans also had a year and a half of dust buildup
yonder#2767: As opposed to now, when they're clean
JustinXenyx#8854: Well, the dust buildup probably made the fan slower, meaning it isn't as loud as before @yonder
JustinXenyx#8854: @boog Yeah, you need to remove that backplate if possible to install that cooler
JustinXenyx#8854: If its glued onto the board, a decent hair dryer and a bit of prying should do the trick
boog#9487: It’s part of the cpu socket
JustinXenyx#8854: Huh, can you send a pic?
boog#9487: The retention mechanism attaches to it
yonder#2767: Yeah, but it was even quieter after it was cleaned out
boog#9487: I can’t in airport
yonder#2767: Then it started getting even louder
boog#9487: Like the clamp for the cpu screws down through the motherboard into the backplate
boog#9487: Those 3 screws go into the backplate https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595180060160557067/image0.jpg
boog#9487: (Picture is of my motherboard stolen off google)
JustinXenyx#8854: hmm |
boog#9487: I think I should just upgrade my motherboard
boog#9487: It’s kinda shit
boog#9487: And the ram slots die every few months
Deinsti#5907: @Tech Helper I am looking to buy a Micro-ATX case for my mobo, the only small cases I can find literally fit borderline size wise; My question is - if it's literally point on point with the max size, will it actually fit? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595192172266127370/unknown.png
TheGeekster#8508: Yep, if it says it'll fit MATX it'll fit a standard MATX case, there's no need for a lot of gap around the edge, especially if you're trying to get as small as possible
Deinsti#5907: Aah ok
JustinXenyx#8854: Funnily enough, Sante had the same question regarding the exact same case a couple days back @Deinsti
Deinsti#5907: Oh did he? Surprisingly I didn't notice it 🤷
Deinsti#5907: Anyway thanks for the info ^^
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, if you install a mobo that is wider than 18cm it probably would still fit if a SFX psu is installed
Deinsti#5907: Mines 17.3cm so I should be good with standard PSU
Deinsti#5907: @JustinXenyx Sorry to bother you once more, but when it mentions clearance, does it mean width or length? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595200347211956233/unknown.png
Deinsti#5907: My GPU is 266mm long
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd guess PSU length
Deinsti#5907: I hope so, otherwise both my PSU and GPU won't fit :P |
Lady Mipha#0611: Don't think the PSU and GPU are going to fit @Deinsti
Deinsti#5907: It's 140mm length (i assume) for full length GPU's
Deinsti#5907: My PSU is exactly 140mm long
Deinsti#5907: The max vga clearance is 280mm aka full length
Deinsti#5907: So it might fit but only just
Lady Mipha#0611: In the last photo u posted you would take the right measurements
Lady Mipha#0611: Because your gpu is over 190mm
Deinsti#5907: Yes
Deinsti#5907: crude drawing
Deinsti#5907: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595204558825979965/unknown.png
Deinsti#5907: Since I assume length, it would fit but they would be tightly squished together
Lady Mipha#0611: Most likely
Deinsti#5907: Which honestly won't be a huge issue
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prAaADB9Kck
B14NK#2605: i5-2500k @ 4.2ghz, rx 480 8gb, 4x2gb ram, 120gb ssd, 2x500gb hdds, how much should I try to flip it for in the US? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595358150744604682/1.jpg |
B14NK#2605: I already have the system
Lady Mipha#0611: @Tech Helper ^
JustinXenyx#8854: Could you give a more detailed speclist on like pcpartpicker.com?
JustinXenyx#8854: Would make pricing it easier because we don't need to guess components
TheFifthAce#4128: 300-350ish at max
TheFifthAce#4128: :dAB:
TheFifthAce#4128: based on the info given
TheGeekster#8508: ^^ Yeah, from GBP to USD I'd say about 300-350 too, based on the value of the GPU
B14NK#2605: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9XP7zY @JustinXenyx
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd also say roughly 300-350 USD then, but excluding the SSD because its, well, ||shit||
JustinXenyx#8854: Also the PSU seems a little sketch to me because it seems to be almost 1.5 decades old
B14NK#2605: Thanks your your guys' input, I'll list it for $399 in case of negotiations and take $300 as a minimum
B14NK#2605: Out of curiosity, how did you guys come up with the range of 300-350? @JustinXenyx @TheGeekster @TheFifthAce
TheGeekster#8508: Looked up the price of the gpu as that's the most valuable part, then how much it would be to get a generic 2nd gen platform and built it myself
B14NK#2605: So simply eBay the current value of the parts? |
JustinXenyx#8854: i pretty much estimated the part value and added some extra on top adjusting for labor and windows @B14NK
JustinXenyx#8854: with part value (excluding ssd) i'm basically at 270-300, add labor + windows ontop and you're easily at 300-350
B14NK#2605: Alright, makes sense, thanks for the help again 😃
JustinXenyx#8854: No problem, glad i was able to help
TheFifthAce#4128: @B14NK part by part, added some extra value for building cost + 5$ windows license
JustinXenyx#8854: Usually most PC retailers have pretty high prices compared to building them yourself because they have to account for labor costs, warranty and high quality shipping
SussyBalls#4615: They also can't get those 5 dollar windows 10 keys afaik
JustinXenyx#8854: This depends on how many they order @SussyBalls
JustinXenyx#8854: If we order a shit ton at the same time, we can get them for 5 bucks from MS easy
JustinXenyx#8854: Usually though we end up paying 20-30 USD per key though, because we don't order that many in one beat
SussyBalls#4615: Generally most retailers I've seen charge the full 100 usd for a windows key on their custom prebuilds
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean like direct PC retailers, the ones who build rigs and don't sell components etc @SussyBalls
SussyBalls#4615: hmm ok
JustinXenyx#8854: Part retailers like newegg charge the full MSRP because they simply are able to
JustinXenyx#8854: they don't see sketchy ebay "key dealers" as competition |
TheGeekster#8508: OEM's and whitebox builder companies purchase OEM licenses, these are cheaper than standard licenses, as they are tied to the hardware, they die when the computer dies (in theory)
TheGeekster#8508: If you purchase a proper retail license, you can use that on any computer going forward, you take the license with you, best if you like building your own PC and upgrade often
HotShot#8006: Hey guys I'm in a bit of a screwed situation here. I'm trying to remove an EVGA SR-2 motherboard from a Lian Li case, but I cannot find the case that it came with and moreover a singular metal boi isn't visible on the motherboard side. I feel this is keeping it attached to the back of the case but it's such an odd design that I cannot find oit where.
HotShot#8006: I will upload some pictures now
SussyBalls#4615: Damn good luck not breaking it
Otherwise the server will have a minute of mourning
HotShot#8006: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595577006826061844/IMG_20190628_175719638.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595577008004792323/IMG_20190628_180118487.jpg
HotShot#8006: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595577107598409747/IMG_20190628_184147550.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595577108961427456/IMG_20190628_180029196.jpg
HotShot#8006: If anyone could help me identify this case or something to help me get this motherboard out that would be great.
SussyBalls#4615: Damn is that from a smoker house? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595577218797928450/unknown.png
SussyBalls#4615: Looks pretty bad
HotShot#8006: It's also a really old case. Somewhere from around 2013
HotShot#8006: Yeah
HotShot#8006: I took off the cover to that fan and it just clogged up everything
HotShot#8006: It was an old CCTV rig. |
DarknessFalls229#2286: are you sure you took all the screws out of the motherboard?
SussyBalls#4615: Wait what?
An SR2 in a CCTV rig?
HotShot#8006: I got it off Facebook and the chap seemed to have just kept it laying around from his old job in security from London.
HotShot#8006: Yeah I'm pretty confident @DarknessFalls229
SussyBalls#4615: Jesus christ that's some overkill CCTV
HotShot#8006: It has two Xeon 5660s from the looks of it and cooled by some darude h60 or h80iv2 AIOs.
HotShot#8006: The dust is that bad it has become part of the fan blades, it seems.
HotShot#8006: No ram though. The guy didn't understand 6x2GB means 12GB and not 12GB per stick. Wasn't going to pay £120 for 12GB ddr3.
HotShot#8006: But I've got a handful of 4GB sticks laying around. Not tested it yet as I'm going to my work boss's house to have a go. I just don't want to haul the case around with me.
DarknessFalls229#2286: Also removed the Three top screws, i dont see them in your image?
SussyBalls#4615: hmm
well good luck, I have no experience with Lian Li cases but try and compare the location of what is sticking out to the location on the board
MythologicalZ#3752: That case looks very much like a V2000
HotShot#8006: Yes. Funny think about those top screws were that there was only 1-2 out of a few holes. |
SussyBalls#4615: Is this a screwhole? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595579041965277207/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: sr2 uwu
SussyBalls#4615: you could've missed one due to all the dust and tar
TheFifthAce#4128: how much did you pick it up for
HotShot#8006: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595579277949403137/IMG_20190628_184221229.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: Maybe you should remove the CPU heatsink mounting hardware, unless youe confident it is not connected anywhere
TheFifthAce#4128: clean it up 🤢
MythologicalZ#3752: You can't remove it that easily iirc
MythologicalZ#3752: 1366 isn't like 2011/2066
MythologicalZ#3752: You need a backplate
MythologicalZ#3752: Since it's not intergrated
MythologicalZ#3752: Unless the Sr2 was different
HotShot#8006: Trust me I'd love to clean it up @TheFifthAce
DarknessFalls229#2286: if you pull on the edges of the motherboard a liiiiiitle bit, could you identify where it is stuck?
TheFifthAce#4128: how much did you pay |
TheFifthAce#4128: have you tried pushing from the back of the mobo
HotShot#8006: Maybe the dust is covering it @SussyBalls but I'm pretty confident I've got everything.
HotShot#8006: Yep. It's definitely connected. Unlike the PSU it had which was just sort of stuck like glue to the bottom of the case.
HotShot#8006: And I don't want to disclose how much I paid for it as i might end up re-selling it.
DarknessFalls229#2286: but can you see _where_ it is stuck?
HotShot#8006: Not really. It's at the very bottom of the board near that fan I believe.
HotShot#8006: https://photos.app.goo.gl/mhJPfYMvUSVewEz56
TheFifthAce#4128: why not tell us how much, not like we're gonna be buying it
TheFifthAce#4128: :ThonkFish:
HotShot#8006: £200 @TheFifthAce
TheFifthAce#4128: yike
HotShot#8006: That was a video I tried to make to show the screwy situation
TheFifthAce#4128: I mean SR2s are up there but
TheFifthAce#4128: still a yike
HotShot#8006: Puns |
HotShot#8006: And £200 seems reasonable to me as the board still goes for more.
TheFifthAce#4128: ye
JustinXenyx#8854: considering he's got a psu, cpu's etc i'd say thats a pretty decent price
DarknessFalls229#2286: it does somehow look like that its screwed in somewhere in the lower right of the fan area
TheFifthAce#4128: he doesn't know if ram slots work, and its dusty af
TheFifthAce#4128: still gonna make profit off it for sure
TheFifthAce#4128: even for parts its still worth it
TheFifthAce#4128: but still a yikes situation for me
HotShot#8006: Well @TheFifthAce the chap I got it from did say "if you have any issues please contact me". So it's not like he can downright ignore me now lol.
TheFifthAce#4128: thats true
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd probably take a pair of tweezers, snip the screw off on the back and see if that works
JustinXenyx#8854: Or i'd reference a picture of the bare motherboard, looking for every screw hole and if i'd missed one
DarknessFalls229#2286: @HotShot ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595582744738791444/unknown.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: @HotShot !!! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595583102315659264/unknown.png
HotShot#8006: Quite possibly. So I'll need to see how to take all that heat sink off |
HotShot#8006: Thanks for the help :)
DarknessFalls229#2286: maybe its underneath the dust
DarknessFalls229#2286: just try and scrape it away a little
DarknessFalls229#2286: prbably right there @HotShot https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595584713188573184/unknown.png
HotShot#8006: Yeah. I'll take another look at it when I'm home. I was trying to scrape my Screwdriver around there to see if it would catch anything. But perhaps it's so bad it just moved over it.
DarknessFalls229#2286: alright
DarknessFalls229#2286: good luck
Deleted User#0000: Anyone know how to do a 32 bit windows install without using internet on the pc i want install it on?
GoldenSky#4649: Yes, but you require a Windows ISO and Rufus, along with a USB flash drive
Alcyone#2233: B450 that can handle R3K 12 core and be flashed with no cpu https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595630140583575572/unknown.png
HotShot#8006: I did it
HotShot#8006: It's one heavy boi
HotShot#8006: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/595659543875289146/IMG_20190702_175750727.jpg
HotShot#8006: Thank you @DarknessFalls229 and everyone else who helped me get this out
DarknessFalls229#2286: no prob |
DarknessFalls229#2286: Good luck with selling it in the future
Bertie Kemp#1114: Would 1st gen ryzen cpus work with the new x570 mobos?
JustinXenyx#8854: Don't think i've heard anything saying that they wouldn't work
Bertie Kemp#1114: damn
Alcyone#2233: sr-2 nice
TheFifthAce#4128: @Alcyone flashed w/o cpu?
TheFifthAce#4128: how does that work
Alcyone#2233: put ram in, connect power and flash with bios file on the root of usb. asus has a button on the io, dont know how msi does it, havent had one of the boards yet. Probably in the manual for said mobos
Alcyone#2233: looks like you dont even need ram on msi. just power to the mobo
yonder#2767: You know how most CPU coolers come with thermal paste on them?
yonder#2767: Is that thin layer enough, or should I put some extra on?
SussyBalls#4615: For regular operation it should be fine, for overclocking I'm not sure, the paste is likely low quality
yonder#2767: It's MX-2
yonder#2767: MX-4, sorry
yonder#2767: I'll add a little bit, but not much |
yonder#2767: I've got a tube of MX-2
Dudu#0051: you shouldnt add thermal paste, the one included is more than enough
Dudu#0051: what you should do is wipe the stock and replace it
Dudu#0051: if you put way too much thermal paste it will be a mess to clean up if you need to swap cooler or CPU in the future
yonder#2767: Okay, I'll just use the standard stuff then
yonder#2767: Cool
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, i'd always keep the stock paste unless you know you have higher quality paste
Sulphurite#3623: Does anyone have a experience with buying online from gearbest?
JustinXenyx#8854: I only have experience ordering smaller items @Sulphurite
Sulphurite#3623: How long did it take to arrive?
JustinXenyx#8854: from China to Germany, about 15-20 days, depending on item size (bigger = longer shipping time)
SussyBalls#4615: Overclocking a GTX 950, core is at 1640mhz and memory is at 4195mhz (effective)
In Heaven it's running stable, but every now and than a red burst of artifacts appear, though they are not the "pixelated" artifacts you'd see
Should I increase the vcore or decrease the memory clock?
SussyBalls#4615: Temps peak at 71 so I do have a little more headroom |
JustinXenyx#8854: 1640?
JustinXenyx#8854: Thats pretty high for a maxwell card
SussyBalls#4615: It's boost though, is that still alright?
JustinXenyx#8854: its pushing it a bit
SussyBalls#4615: The red artifacts only came after I started overclocking the memory, the core is stable
Daze#8232: What's the point of 59.94 fps?
navibu#8748: Hey guys i found a guy sell an used 1tb hdd for 20$
navibu#8748: But it has been used 20000h
navibu#8748: Should i take it?
TheFifthAce#4128: fuck no
TheFifthAce#4128: thats ebay price for better drives
TheFifthAce#4128: you can get a WD black for that
Saturnity#8647: Tried posting somewhere else but no response;
Was gonna update my bios, I got a z270m mortar, it has m-flash. When I go into M-flash, it restarts like it should, but then goes black and requires holding the power button |
Saturnity#8647: Any suggestions :/
JustinXenyx#8854: So, the board is still working/POSTing? @Saturnity
Saturnity#8647: Oh yeah, everything is working just fine, I just wanted to update my bios since it's been quiiite a while
Saturnity#8647: So everything works fine, going into bios is fine, but when I go into m-flash mode it just restarts and goes black
JustinXenyx#8854: good, for a hot second i thought it died while flashing and made the board unusable
Saturnity#8647: Ah okay haha yeah I would.. Very much dislike if that happened
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean, i'd probably recommend flashing over Windows now and seeing if that still occurs with the new BIOS, could be that M-Flash has some corrupted data hence why it works up until you actually want to go into M-Flash
Saturnity#8647: Flashing over windows?
Saturnity#8647: Ooh
Saturnity#8647: Wait do you mean just booting off the USB and updating that way
JustinXenyx#8854: nah, a lot of motherboard manufacturers provide an EXE file that is able to start in windows but then basically freezes windows so that its like a normal bios flash
JustinXenyx#8854: or they have their own tool, i think its "Live Update 6" for that Z270M Mortar
Saturnity#8647: Odd. Checked the mobo manufacture site for this specific board and it said to use the m-flash, and downloading the bios update gives no exe
Saturnity#8647: Gonna go look at the live update thing
Saturnity#8647: Wow. Done haha. Live Update is cool. |
Jeff Scones#5697: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JwDXxG
Jeff Scones#5697: good or bad?
MythologicalZ#3752: I'd avoid
MythologicalZ#3752: Zen 2 soon
MythologicalZ#3752: Wait for benches
TheFifthAce#4128: zen 2 releases soon
TheFifthAce#4128: 860 evo is overpriced
TheFifthAce#4128: you can get both a nicer looking cooler and a nicer looking case
TheFifthAce#4128: why rm750x, just get a tx750m off amazon for 50$
Jeff Scones#5697: amazon shipping is 40$for me and i dont care about how it looks
Jeff Scones#5697: just performance
MythologicalZ#3752: Wait for Zen 2 then
TheFifthAce#4128: @Jeff Scones if youre usa the shipping is free
TheFifthAce#4128: and wait for zen 2
TheFifthAce#4128: literally three days away |
Daze#8232: What's the point of monitors with 59 hz?
thatubuntuguy#5914: So close yet so far
thatubuntuguy#5914: Just oc em to 60 ez
thatubuntuguy#5914: Zzz
Daze#8232: And why I can record at 59.94 or 29.94 fps?
Daze#8232: Like why can't it be 60 or 30 simply?
TheGeekster#8508: Something to do with older standards, not sure exactly why
nacabaro#2138: i think that's because ntsc standard was 29.97
nacabaro#2138: so they doubled it to 59.94 i believe
kiyza#4774: Hi, just curious what processor do you reckon I should pair with a 1660ti. Thanks in advance.
MythologicalZ#3752: Wait for Zen 2
MythologicalZ#3752: If the leaks are real, something like a 3600 should be plenty
kiyza#4774: Okay ty
kiyza#4774: Yeah are Intel releasing anything new?
MythologicalZ#3752: Nothing from them for a while more |
MythologicalZ#3752: There are going to be price drops but realistically nothing will really happen
kiyza#4774: K cool
HappySlappyFace#0441: @kiyza why not rx580
TheFifthAce#4128: gamer
would an r7 250 beat a 550 ti
I feel like it would
because gcn drivers
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx how shit is this h61, for something like an i5 2400 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-Motherboard-H61M-A-REV-1-02-No-CPU/192974030623?epid=144799614&hash=item2cee26071f:g:B6YAAOSwAyddHLVO
JustinXenyx#8854: A yes it would
JustinXenyx#8854: B its an average B61
DarknessFalls229#2286: H* its an avarage H*61
Śnieżka#3486: do you guys think it's worth rooting my A7 2018 that I have since april?
JustinXenyx#8854: Not really @Śnieżka
JustinXenyx#8854: rooting is practically pointless for the majority of android users
JustinXenyx#8854: you don't even need to have a rooted phone to put a custom rom on there |
Śnieżka#3486: I mean, I'd mainly do it cause I'm angry that instead of 4G it shows LTE+
TheGeekster#8508: rooted can lead to more problems than it's worth
Śnieżka#3486: even tho its the same thing probably
Śnieżka#3486: @TheGeekster I know, it'd also trip knox
JustinXenyx#8854: thats like creating your own butching business only because one schnitzel was bad
Śnieżka#3486: yes
TheGeekster#8508: AYE, the schnitzel is gud tho
Śnieżka#3486: but i'd also enable a couple of things that samsung hides
Śnieżka#3486: so in the end, you guys say it's not worth it?
JustinXenyx#8854: Not really
Śnieżka#3486: okay
Śnieżka#3486: too many disadvantages?
JustinXenyx#8854: No, its just that the advantages are easily out-weighed by the negative effects
Śnieżka#3486: ah alrighty then
Śnieżka#3486: thanks |
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx are you sure the r7 250 beats it
TheFifthAce#4128: it looks like the 550 ti beats it in every case that I can find
TheFifthAce#4128: but then I go to a different benchmark and it gets beat
TheFifthAce#4128: :AAAA:
JustinXenyx#8854: going by the numbers in my head, they have similar performance in titles where both have decent drivers, try a more modern game and the results are skewed in the favor of the R7 250
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/596444717823295488/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: green being nvidia
JustinXenyx#8854: those differences aren't that huge tbh
JustinXenyx#8854: some of them i'd even consider differences in margin of error
TheFifthAce#4128: hes on a sketchy psu so its probably best to go for r7 250 anyways?
TheFifthAce#4128: its some Deer rebrand
TheFifthAce#4128: :ULTRAKEK:
JustinXenyx#8854: yikes
JustinXenyx#8854: the 250 is definitely easier on the psu, yeah
TheFifthAce#4128: he has 100$ to spend on cpu, mobo, and ram |
TheFifthAce#4128: since I'm sending GPU, he has PSU, he has case, and he has storage
TheFifthAce#4128: I was thinking the h61 I linked earlier, a 2400 for 25$, and 8gb for 20$
TheFifthAce#4128: so a total of 82$
TheFifthAce#4128: is there anything that can be done better?
TheFifthAce#4128: i5 2400 + 8gb + that h61
DarknessFalls229#2286: some expensive h61
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-Motherboard-H61M-A-REV-1-02-No-CPU/192974030623?epid=144799614&hash=item2cee26071f:g:B6YAAOSwAyddHLVO
TheFifthAce#4128: 37$
DarknessFalls229#2286: meanwhile i bought a i5 2320 system for 2 euro
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
DarknessFalls229#2286: ought it not be cheaper to buy a set instead of separate parts?
TheFifthAce#4128: I didn't find any sets on ebay
Alcyone#2233: if you stack the extra $18 on top of that $37 you could get a cheap aliexpress p67 and oc the 2400 400mhz or 500+ with some bclk. And be ready for upgrade to a 2600k/2700k/3770k
TheFifthAce#4128: its only being paired with an r7 250
DarknessFalls229#2286: _upgrade path_ |
DarknessFalls229#2286: a good mobo is a good step for upgrades
DarknessFalls229#2286: not as dead end as my 970 board
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx Fallout 4 benchmarks indicate that the 550 ti absolutely rapes the r7 250, doing 1080p60 on ultra vs the r7 250 doing 720p60 medium-low
TheFifthAce#4128: even with the sketch psu, it's a 500w unit and should be able to handle it fine
thatubuntuguy#5914: Just get a cheap FPS
thatubuntuguy#5914: *fsp
thatubuntuguy#5914: And be done with it
thatubuntuguy#5914: Get the 550ti and go zzz
Alcyone#2233: 550ti will not do 1080p ultra fallout 4 at 60fps
TheFifthAce#4128: @Alcyone not a steady 60
TheFifthAce#4128: but a 30-60 smoothed
TheFifthAce#4128: which is enjoyable
TheFifthAce#4128: compared to the r7 250 needing to do 720p medium to achieve the same FPS
Alcyone#2233: I have a gtx 560 in right now with an 8086k I will test and see how it does. I ran it before with a 2600k and it wasnt holding 60 at 1280x800 medium
TheFifthAce#4128: hm |
TheFifthAce#4128: benchmarks seem to suggest that it holds up well
TheFifthAce#4128: @Alcyone https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/596628825971097601/unknown.png
Bertie Kemp#1114: Hi, I have £232 for motherboard and cpu, I would like a good x570 motherboard and an okay cpu, any suggestions?
MythologicalZ#3752: X570 prices are higher than X470 since PCIE 4.0 and all
MythologicalZ#3752: You won't get much value new with that budget
TheFifthAce#4128: get a b450 and 2600
TheFifthAce#4128: :dAB:
thatubuntuguy#5914: Ye
thatubuntuguy#5914: Pro vdh is okay
thatubuntuguy#5914: Is the 1600 micro Center deal still on
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
JustinXenyx#8854: well, that video seems, "trustworthy" @TheFifthAce
JustinXenyx#8854: Also thats not ultra, thats mostly medium/low with 2 settings set on ultra
TheFifthAce#4128: ye
JustinXenyx#8854: @Bertie Kemp To be honest, i think you'll barely get a decent X570 with that, maybe a medium-tier X570 + a used Ryzen 3 1200 at best i think |
JustinXenyx#8854: As myth said, the new features like PCIe 4.0 etc are increasing the price a lot of the new chipset, in addition to motherboard manufacturers now investing a lot more time and money into AMD motherboard development instead of refreshing and reusing older designs
Alcyone#2233: Id expect more of the 40s, in the cities or when the action heats up it can hit 30s or below. I only saw 60fps in first person without much going on. factory oc gtx 560 1080p low preset. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/596658085536333837/20190705025930_1.jpg
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/596658196823801868/20190705030144_1.jpg
Alcyone#2233: manually turning everything to the lowest possible and disabling aa gives near a solid 60 outside of emerald city
TheFifthAce#4128: huh
TheFifthAce#4128: still decent though
TheFifthAce#4128: and better than r7 250 I'm mostly sure
TheFifthAce#4128: and it's still miles better than a quadro k600
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/596659402912694277/unknown.png
MythologicalZ#3752: UBM meme
JustinXenyx#8854: get the fuck away with that meme benching site lmao @Deleted User
Deleted User#0000: it shows a rough estimate @JustinXenyx
MythologicalZ#3752: Rough estimate of what?
JustinXenyx#8854: ^
JustinXenyx#8854: rather pull up some actual game benches than that shit |
JustinXenyx#8854: or even synthetics like Firestrike's GPU score
TheFifthAce#4128: @Deleted User I was asking about 550 ti not 560
Deleted User#0000: o
B14NK#2605: @JustinXenyx do you have a list of firestrike or synthetic benchmarks that you reference or do you look up benchmarks on a one case basis?
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.3dmark.com/search
JustinXenyx#8854: Usually looking them up isn't that hard, TYC had a decent list a while back but that was taken down
JustinXenyx#8854: If i had the time and would put the effort in to bench them myself, i'd probably have a finished list already up lol
Daze#8232: Why a lot of new gpus are basically a reskin of the old ones?
Daze#8232: Like the 980ti performs the same as a 1070
Daze#8232: It's strange for me seeing old gpus that perform as well as new ones
Daze#8232: I mean not all of them are reskins but like the hd 7000 series and r7 series are like the same thinn
TheGeekster#8508: Economics, it's cheaper to spend less on R&D on lower gpu's than just rebrand the current top tier, and just make a better tier
SussyBalls#4615: because the 980ti was the top end Maxwell card (excluding titans) which launched at a higher price of 649 usd, while the gtx 1070 is a mid-high end card in the Pascal generation, which launched at a lower price of just 379, the performance is because of the architectures and improvements over time, allowing a mid-high end card to catch up with an older and more power hungry high end card
SussyBalls#4615: and architectures mature, making it cheaper and easier to produce superior variants, which is why the rx 580 is basically a reskin of the 480 with some improvements
SussyBalls#4615: though sometimes they are just plain reskins, like the hd 7970 and the r9 280x |
SussyBalls#4615: yet the r9 280x was way cheaper at launch (hd 7970 was 549 usd, r9 280x was 299 usd) despite being nearly identical
Daze#8232: I guess I'm going to buy a r9 280x
SussyBalls#4615: well try and hunt for the 7970
SussyBalls#4615: should be cheaper on the used market since it's "older" (atleast regarded as)
Daze#8232: maybe one day now it's not the moment for me to get a new pc
Daze#8232: at least I can play assetto corsa at 30 fps all low and 1080p
SussyBalls#4615: wait for all the new shit to launch, if you get lucky some people will sell their rigs or atleast parts of it to get their hands on the new stuff
SussyBalls#4615: aka navi, zen 2 and such
JustinXenyx#8854: No, they aren't reskins, that's just how NVIDIA's "upgrade" scheme works @Daze
Daze#8232: Still I'm surprised my pc can do so many new games at 30 fps all low
Daze#8232: I thought it was going to be much worst
SussyBalls#4615: have you tried a bit of overclocking?
that is if you have the power supply and the board for it
Daze#8232: this gpu can't overclock that much
SussyBalls#4615: should make it a *slightly* better experience |
SussyBalls#4615: :Oof:
Daze#8232: I overclocked it as best as I can
Daze#8232: If I go further it would start to crash and do blue screens
Daze#8232: that's the overclock https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/596779644779364566/unknown.png
SussyBalls#4615: oh well, hope you find some deals in the coming days if you want to upgrade
Daze#8232: I would wait till christmas period for buying a new pc
SussyBalls#4615: hmm if you really wanted to upgrade now there's some cheap ryzen chips going around on aliexpress
not sure if the christmas deals will be any good
DarknessFalls229#2286: or do you recon he should upgrade his current platform?
JustinXenyx#8854: absolutely not worth it @DarknessFalls229
JustinXenyx#8854: Phenom X4's and X6's are hella overpriced
DarknessFalls229#2286: ah damn
DarknessFalls229#2286: better go with some low end 1151 or am4
DarknessFalls229#2286: or was it 1150
SussyBalls#4615: 1155 is sandy/ivy bridge and it's generally the cheapest for the peformance |
SussyBalls#4615: but the am4 chips from aliexpress may change that when zen 2 rolls out, I think they'll drop the prices a bit as Zen 2 takes off in China
MythologicalZ#3752: Just wait a few days more for the launch
SussyBalls#4615: some of my regional system integrators are now advertising their prebuilds with Ryzen 3k, and you can already order them
SussyBalls#4615: though there's a convenient 2 days built time to match the release date
SussyBalls#4615: also does anyone know what type of 775 chip this is?
never seen this specific sticker https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/596789837277954075/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: @SussyBalls 1155*
SussyBalls#4615: oh yeah shit
Rysing Dragoon#5628: I have an MP3 file I wanna import
Rysing Dragoon#5628: But hit film Express isnt letting me import it
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Any ideas on what I should do?
RandomTacos#3695: Anyone know if it’s possible to fix my GTX 580 that has green dots on the display only after a driver is installed?
Lady Mipha#0611: Do you have a photo @RandomTacos
RandomTacos#3695: I don’t atm
RandomTacos#3695: But I can get one |
RandomTacos#3695: Nevermind because it’s working now???
Lady Mipha#0611: :Bruhh:
RandomTacos#3695: I spent like 6 hours working on it and it just decided it’s all good when I plugged it back in to take pictures
kittycat959#2895: Pcs are strange lmao
GoldenSky#4649: No u
kittycat959#2895: 😩
SLJ#9246: is the gtx 1060 worth it for 110 euros? its the cheapest i can find
MythologicalZ#3752: 3GB or 6GB?
SLJ#9246: 3gb
MythologicalZ#3752: I'd avoid it and get a 570 instead
MythologicalZ#3752: If it was a 6GB on the other hand
SLJ#9246: yeah but, i need an nvidia card for CEMU emulation
SLJ#9246: amd cards run the emulator like trash due to the card's opengl limitations
kittycat959#2895: I would suggest a 970 but 3.5/4 so
SLJ#9246: ironically |
SLJ#9246: the 970 is more expensive
kittycat959#2895: I mean how much is the 1060 full fat?
kittycat959#2895: Cause it would probably be wise to save for that
DarknessFalls229#2286: how about a GTX 780, ive seen one for 65 euro
SuSSudio#2688: Hey, need SERIOUS tech consultation here
SuSSudio#2688: So, i sold my RAM stick which i bought new to a buyer, with warranty intact.. I can keep REASSURING the RAM works on my Asus G41 mobo...
But not today when the buyer tested the RAM on his mobo. his mobo is an LGA1156 Biostar TH55B-HD. He said to me that he has the exact RAM model on his hand. he told me he'd liked to upgrade the capacity from 4GB to dual channel 8GB, the 4GB supposedly from my unit
SuSSudio#2688: When he tested it with his config, the system didn't boot up but stayed on pitch black state, no signs of entering BIOS either.
SuSSudio#2688: He messaged me & tried my way to address the problem, however he "did all the solutions" & the system still refused to load BIOS.
SuSSudio#2688: Without debating further i told him to just return the stick back to me & get the refund.
TheGeekster#8508: Mmkay, so you tested the ram, it worked, sent it to someone, it doesn't work?
SuSSudio#2688: YES
SuSSudio#2688: He msged to me with the pictures for strong evidence, and i can confirm it
MythologicalZ#3752: So to confirm,it's a 4GB stick right? |
DarknessFalls229#2286: has he tried using ONLY your stick?
SuSSudio#2688: Yeah it is 4GB stick, same serial number
SuSSudio#2688: He did
DarknessFalls229#2286: hm
MythologicalZ#3752: 1156 historically has issues with 4GB dimms
MythologicalZ#3752: And factor in Biostar support
SuSSudio#2688: But his unit worked fine and is the same exact model
MythologicalZ#3752: Might just be wonky like that
DarknessFalls229#2286: AHEM
DarknessFalls229#2286: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597095111100465172/unknown.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: literally one minute ago
nacabaro#2138: ohhhhh
nacabaro#2138: sorry
SuSSudio#2688: Besides i had similar issue with him except the RAM eventually worked after i tried swapping between slots
SuSSudio#2688: i thought it was my G41 mobo being weird |
DarknessFalls229#2286: might be partially faulty then
DarknessFalls229#2286: dunno
SuSSudio#2688: It didn't only occured with this 4GB unit, the 2GB unit which i successfully sold too caused the mobo to temporarily refuse reading the stick
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm
SuSSudio#2688: strangely that 2GB unit didn't show up any described issue to the new owner
Tinybox#9112: OK which PC games are a must have? (Even if they are generic ones, just tell me, I'm building up my nearly empty library)
any help appreciated ay
DarknessFalls229#2286: portal 2
DarknessFalls229#2286: its a buck anyway
Tinybox#9112: ok
Tinybox#9112: Anything else?
DarknessFalls229#2286: trying to think of games that arent niche
Tinybox#9112: Just tell me them even if they are niche..
Tinybox#9112: I'm special anyway
Tinybox#9112: (in a bad? or weird way?) |
kittycat959#2895: Half life series @Tinybox
DarknessFalls229#2286: eh whatever maybe bioshock, ori and the blind forest, GTA V, magicka is fun with more players, witcher 3, Count and Strike, international agressive, dont starve together, to the moon, garrys mod, hollow knight, killing floor 2, dust an elysian tail, inside, Limbo, dying light, submerged, subnautica, dark souls, sekiro, just cause
kittycat959#2895: It's very good
Tinybox#9112: THANKS a lot @DarknessFalls229
TheGeekster#8508: i'd suggest not buying games just to have games, like, buy a game and play it, enjoy it, you'll get much more worth out of that
DarknessFalls229#2286: no problem
kittycat959#2895: @Tinybox the metro series
kittycat959#2895: That's a really good game series
Tinybox#9112: thanks
kittycat959#2895: Oh! Oh! The batman series too! @Tinybox
kittycat959#2895: I loved the batman games
kittycat959#2895: Arkam asylum is the first one
kittycat959#2895: Skyrim is an awesome experience too
kittycat959#2895: Mass effect is really really good aswell
DarknessFalls229#2286: dont andromeda, its somewhat below avarage |
kittycat959#2895: I loved Andromeda
kittycat959#2895: Although my favourite was mass effect 2
kittycat959#2895: Mass effect 1 imo is awful
kittycat959#2895: I hated it
TheFifthAce#4128: @Tinybox https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597130365466968064/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: these games
TheFifthAce#4128: especially rising storm 2
GoldenSky#4649: Clean up your damn desktop there bud
TheFifthAce#4128: no
DarknessFalls229#2286: _but its so neat_ https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597149287754891277/unknown.png
JustinXenyx#8854: the desktop on my main rig looks like a dumpster fire
JustinXenyx#8854: but my laptops is neat aF
LaeMat#0420: beamng nice
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx thoughts on 8700k being dead now
TheFifthAce#4128: :ULTRAKEK: |
JustinXenyx#8854: it'll be cheap @TheFifthAce
TheFifthAce#4128: they cant afford to drop 8700k price
TheFifthAce#4128: theyre still having shortages
JustinXenyx#8854: i'm not talking new
TheFifthAce#4128: https://imgur.com/lNqmwkn
JustinXenyx#8854: i'm talking all the people who'll dump intel now
TheFifthAce#4128: ya y0te
TheFifthAce#4128: ah yeah
TheFifthAce#4128: true
TheFifthAce#4128: but 3600 legit based now
TheFifthAce#4128: that cb was done with chrome n shit in background, with 2133 ram, on a beta bios
TheFifthAce#4128: :ULTRAKEK:
TheFifthAce#4128: and still within 10 points of the 8700k, while base clock is 500mhz lower
DarknessFalls229#2286: you can boost cinebench so much just with setting priority to real time
JustinXenyx#8854: majority of CB runs don't do that @DarknessFalls229 |
JustinXenyx#8854: causes CB and windows to bug out
DarknessFalls229#2286: well, if i do that my screen doesnt react anymore, but if i wait 2 mins i get a score
JustinXenyx#8854: which means the validity is questionable
Tinybox#9112: OH DAMn
Tinybox#9112: it's the 7.7
Tinybox#9112: I realized
Deleted User#0000: heyo
Deleted User#0000: Custom Drivers for the ATI Firepro v3800? (I got it for free and i wanna play around with it)
Deleted User#0000: i googled drivers for this and even looked on reddit
Deleted User#0000: nothing
TheFifthAce#4128: e
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx people already ditching intel lol
TheFifthAce#4128: 8700k + 16gb 3000 cl15 + h60 AIO for 300$
SuSSudio#2688: Is there any possibility a RAM module would only stick to a single motherboard where it was first activated until certain amount of time?
SuSSudio#2688: Hence it refuses to work with other mobos |
BigPierogi#3368: It shouldnt
BigPierogi#3368: @SuSSudio Story?
SuSSudio#2688: Scroll up above
SuSSudio#2688: marked with "Hey, need a SERIOUS tech consultation here"
BigPierogi#3368: What speed was it?
SuSSudio#2688: DDR3 1333mhz PC10600 mated to a H55 board
BigPierogi#3368: It should be able to work
BigPierogi#3368: it supports the speed
SuSSudio#2688: But strangely it didn't, atleast with my unit i sent to him
BigPierogi#3368: Hm
BigPierogi#3368: Is there a problem with the board?
SuSSudio#2688: it was my only RAM unit that's been proved to work for about a couple of years now
SuSSudio#2688: no, the buyer has the exact model with the same specs & it worked
BigPierogi#3368: Thats really weird
BigPierogi#3368: Because it should work |
BigPierogi#3368: with no problem
SuSSudio#2688: that's y
SuSSudio#2688: I instructed him to clean up the contacts, to no avail
SuSSudio#2688: even swapping between ram slots didn't work, said the buyer
BigPierogi#3368: Maybe a bios issue?
SuSSudio#2688: I dunno, i've already agreed to return the item & refund
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIA9-2UDKHs
TheFifthAce#4128: stinky NDA broken
Officialy#2961: - note for above
turn auto subtitles on and for your language, should be good enough to understand then :>
TheGeekster#8508: Pretty sure it's the 7/7, no NDA broken
MythologicalZ#3752: Launch hasn't happened yet so I'm pretty sure the NDA is broken
TheGeekster#8508: Ahhh right it's the launch not the NDA date
Officialy#2961: The NDA is done at like 3pm or so uk time
Officialy#2961: idk |
Officialy#2961: around then apparently
Officialy#2961: which is also apparently release time
TheFifthAce#4128: @TheGeekster its definitely broken by at least a solid 10 hours
TheFifthAce#4128: still 3 hours until NDA release
Bertie Kemp#1114: Will the new x570 mobos support 1st gen ryzen?
TheGeekster#8508: https://www.techspot.com/news/80288-amd-x570-chipset-wont-support-first-generation-ryzen.html Nope 🤔
TheGeekster#8508: Ryzen X570 and 3000 Compatibility Chart https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597436367055880192/2019-05-30-image-23.png
TheGeekster#8508: Pinned a message.
SussyBalls#4615: *BRUH*
SussyBalls#4615: I wanted to catch a nice x570 board and a cheap first gen whenever I got the money for it but I guess not
TheGeekster#8508: Nah too many changes between the generations apperently, vendors don't want to backwards compatibility check and mod everything they produce
TheFifthAce#4128: its weird that they support the apus
TheFifthAce#4128: but not the actual first gens
TheFifthAce#4128: like its the same arch
SussyBalls#4615: Weird, so they wasted their time on the trashy first gen apus, but didn't add support for actual Ryzen chips? |
MythologicalZ#3752: 2200/2400G aren't bad
MythologicalZ#3752: But it seems super artificial imo
JustinXenyx#8854: wait a couple months, modders will figure it out
MythologicalZ#3752: Also
MythologicalZ#3752: ```On the higher-end SKUs, the single threaded performance penalty will be massive from doing so. For example on 3900X, you'd be trading additional ~100MHz all-core frequency to a loss of up to 450MHz in ST frequency by doing so. Personally, I advice against overclocking the higher-end SKUs at all, and instead increasing the power limits and trying your luck with the "Auto OC" feature (which most likely isn't beneficial).```
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.overclock.net/forum/10-amd-cpus/1728758-strictly-technical-matisse-not-really.html#/topics/1728758
MythologicalZ#3752: +more Asus shite
MythologicalZ#3752: Similar to the MCE thing with the CFL launch
SussyBalls#4615: huh? the 2200/2400 are fine, i thought abstract was talking about the A series Athlons getting support for x570 (are they not sort of a part of the 1st gen lineup?)
MythologicalZ#3752: They are bulldozer refreshes iirc
MythologicalZ#3752: They don't have support either afaik
SussyBalls#4615: no loss for those, but not supporting 1st gen ryzen is a bit of an :Oof:
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, the A-series athlons are basically repurposed FX chips @SussyBalls
Deleted User#0000: The feck are these? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597458191210774538/JPEG_20190707_170524.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: USB @Deleted User |
Deleted User#0000: do you know the name for the layout ?
JustinXenyx#8854: ???
JustinXenyx#8854: its called USB
Deleted User#0000: of the layout ?
DarknessFalls229#2286: theyre the front usb connectors
JustinXenyx#8854: The layout is literally USB @Deleted User
Deleted User#0000: but idk which way they go into the normal usb pin layout ?
JustinXenyx#8854: you know that blank spot on the USB connector on the mobo? @Deleted User
DarknessFalls229#2286: probably text down
Deleted User#0000: yep
JustinXenyx#8854: thats where the GND goes
Deleted User#0000: There are two GNDs
JustinXenyx#8854: there https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597460201930489856/manual-placa1.png
JustinXenyx#8854: P0 and P1 are just different names for DATA
Deleted User#0000: Is the little one named shield, 10 nc ? |
JustinXenyx#8854: NC is No Connection
Deleted User#0000: Okay
Deleted User#0000: Like that correct? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597461412469800971/JPEG_20190707_171813.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: yup
Deleted User#0000: yeah it works now
Deleted User#0000: its a nasty ass case and ive never dealt with that connection
Gamefreak924#5901: My PC has been giving me issues where it keeps waking up randomly for what seems to be a time sync. Every time the power turns on, I get something similar to the following in the event viewer:
The system time has changed to 2019-07-07T08:52:35.500000000Z from 2019-07-07T08:52:37.137388000Z.
Change Reason: System time synchronized with the hardware clock.
Any ideas on a fix? Although I may have tried a couple, such as turning off Time Sync in the Task Scheduler.
TheGeekster#8508: waking up? like from sleep? or from off?
Gamefreak924#5901: yes, from sleep
DarknessFalls229#2286: do you use other devices where you are logged in into windows with your microsoft account? |
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Gamefreak924
DarknessFalls229#2286: okay then, the 5700 XT is about the performance of a 2070 FE, surpassing it marginally in some cases, with a power consumption like a 2080 FE
TheGeekster#8508: That's kinda AMD for normal then, throw more power at it until it works 🤔 it's a shame i was really hoping they could finally pull something out of the bag
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah
DarknessFalls229#2286: at least ryzen 3 is delivering
DarknessFalls229#2286: also the cooler for the 5700 sucks
DarknessFalls229#2286: they had it going good with radeon VII, why do so bad now?
Alcyone#2233: I'll wait a while for later drivers to pass judgement. But so far 5700 has an artificial clock limit and navi has locked down powerplay tables so bios/registry mods seem to be no more ala nvidia
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, drivers usually get better as time goes on and are somewhat buggy at launch
JustinXenyx#8854: I do think that limit is purely artificial though and that it will easily be able to be unlocked in bios @Alcyone
JustinXenyx#8854: Not the power limit, the clock limit*
Alcyone#2233: So far you cant crossflash or bios mod
Alcyone#2233: Maybe someone will crack it but the extreme guys dont have it figured out yet
JustinXenyx#8854: A HEX-Editor and a flash reader is all you need, realistically. But thats the complicated way, where you need major experience in that
Alcyone#2233: The bios are signed. It wont load drivers with an unnoficial bios |
Alcyone#2233: Ive done hex with polaris by converting dec to intel hex and searching the strings. Then using atikmdag patch so it will accept it. But from what ive read so far thats not working.
Alcyone#2233: We'll just have to wait and see what the competitive guys figure out for softmods
Gamefreak924#5901: @DarknessFalls229 If you mean stuff like remote access, then no.
Deleted User#0000: made this list https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597610666433445908/pcpicker.txt
TheFifthAce#4128: :Thonkang:
TheFifthAce#4128: there are multiple things to be fixed with that list
TheFifthAce#4128: @Deleted User
TheFifthAce#4128: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Z3rTB
TheFifthAce#4128: this is 30$ cheaper, has a more useful SSD (120gb is basically useless tbh), necessary ram speed, a not shit motherboard, and didn't waste money on a cooler
TheFifthAce#4128: because the 1600 comes with spire
TheFifthAce#4128: and for slightly more than that second list
TheFifthAce#4128: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C7JhWD
TheFifthAce#4128: you can get a 2400g, with faster ram
TheFifthAce#4128: and more storage
Deleted User#0000: im used to just opening the side panel, makes case fans useless |
Deleted User#0000: also, i wanted a case that you can actually upgrade in, like a graphics card
Deleted User#0000: low profile cards in general dont cut it
Deleted User#0000: one reason i didn't really approve the q300L was the tear off pci covers
Deleted User#0000: no way to put them back on and off quickly
Deleted User#0000: also, ram speeds don't matter because you overclock them to 3200mhz anyways
Deleted User#0000: the heatsink on the aegis' is more than enough to handle the heat over a bare ram stick with no heatsink
Deleted User#0000: i don't believe in buying case fans unless it can cool the components better than no case running them open air like a test bench (side panel open meh)
MythologicalZ#3752: You don't need heatsinks on RAM
MythologicalZ#3752: Unless you're OCing it pretty far
MythologicalZ#3752: My bare PCB sticks @2400 can do 2933 and still stay cool
TheFifthAce#4128: @Deleted User ...it is CHEAPER than your build, has MORE storage, ram that doesn't look shit, and a decent looking case with good airflow and fans, as well as a MUCH better motherboard. It does this while being CHEAPER. Your points are beyond invalid because you are using more money to do less.
TheGeekster#8508: Also case off is kinda daft if you can keep the side on, at that point just run an old banger case, or no need for a case at all
Deleted User#0000: im not into flashy ram, but having a little piece of alluminum covering the back and front can keep it nice to slot in, tad bit more something to grab onto when installing it
Deleted User#0000: corsair vengeance (no lights/rgb version) is about as flashy as i’d go for ram
Deleted User#0000: for me, the case is fine without a side panel for travel and what not, if i really need the panel, it’s in the corner of my room |
Deleted User#0000: even with 5 preinstalled case fans (zalman z9 neo-nazi white) cases can have 5~ degree differences, meaning the component fans must spin faster
Deleted User#0000: when the gpu fans are pegged at 100% during a max power limit and core voltage overclock, having the side panel open keeps the temps under 80C
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.overclock.net/forum/10-amd-cpus/1728758-strictly-technical-matisse-not-really.html#/topics/1728758?page=2
Wheeze
Deleted User#0000: very difficult to read on phone
MythologicalZ#3752: Oh yeah defs,the forum is shit to navigate
Deleted User#0000: bare pcb ram is only like dollars less than simply having a little taste of alluminum strapped on it
Deleted User#0000: a little color in builds is nice, but im not a stickler for it
Deleted User#0000: cases in particular, a frame is pretty nice to build on, the rest is just looks
Deleted User#0000: i’d rather all of my components and cables be accessable instead of having to open panels all the time, also lower weight
Deleted User#0000: https://youtu.be/Ke_JgL8gxsA
MythologicalZ#3752: I don't see how that makes your list any better but ok
TheFifthAce#4128: your list is still shit
Deleted User#0000: :I
Deleted User#0000: i felt that an m.2 ssd would be easier to install for new builders |
Deleted User#0000: i remembered that it would be fine to go for a 1TB xpg ms30 m.2ssd instead of hardrive+128gb ms30 m.2ssd, as its only like 20-30 dollars more
Deleted User#0000: you won’t ever have to worry about defragging (which takes ages) the hardrive (there’s especially people who don’t even know or want to do that
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597708471017799681/image0.png
Deleted User#0000: looks like for 8 dollars more you can get a 256gb model, so that would be better for the budget build
TheFifthAce#4128: @Deleted User that SSD isnt even good though
TheFifthAce#4128: dramless
TheFifthAce#4128: would make an awful OS drive
TheFifthAce#4128: theres a fuckin reason its cheap
Deleted User#0000: your point over it supposedly somehow not being better than most hardrives?
TheFifthAce#4128: ms30 1tb is 96$
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.newegg.com/team-group-l5-lite-3d-1tb/p/N82E16820331115
TheFifthAce#4128: this is cheaper and better in every way
TheFifthAce#4128: except form factor, I guess if you care about that
Deleted User#0000: read what i said above the picture
TheFifthAce#4128: ... |
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
TheFifthAce#4128: thats what I was responding to
TheFifthAce#4128: the 1tb ms30 is a shit drive
TheFifthAce#4128: and a shit price
Deleted User#0000: i don’t understand what’s so shit about it
TheFifthAce#4128: its dramless
TheFifthAce#4128: if you are using it as an OS drive
TheFifthAce#4128: it will begin to slow down very quickly
Deleted User#0000: whadya mean dramless
TheFifthAce#4128: it has no dram cache
TheFifthAce#4128: there is no dedicated ram on board
TheFifthAce#4128: for it to cache with
TheFifthAce#4128: therefore using it as an OS drive will kill it
Deleted User#0000: can’t you just use the dram on the mobo?
TheFifthAce#4128: :squidward_what: |
TheFifthAce#4128: no
TheFifthAce#4128: thats not how that works
Deleted User#0000: or like it just uses that to cache out of the box
TheFifthAce#4128: ok; lets start with; do you genuinely want me to explain, or are you going to go about your day and continue with what you think you know if I bother explaining
TheFifthAce#4128: I will help you,
TheFifthAce#4128: but only if you are willing to actually retain the knowledge instead of going 'ok' and never using it
Deleted User#0000: no i want to know about this onboard dram on ssd’s
TheFifthAce#4128: alright
Deleted User#0000: i pasted the txt document to converse
Deleted User#0000: and to learn new stuff
Deleted User#0000: i don’t want to come out as a know-it-all
TheFifthAce#4128: right
TheFifthAce#4128: I like you already for that
Deleted User#0000: because you literally can’t stop learning
Deleted User#0000: unless you watched rick and morty |
TheFifthAce#4128: alright so basically; the dram cache means that it can store prefetch data (pointers to what data the OS wants it to grab) without writing that data directly to the disk
TheFifthAce#4128: with an SSD, or even a regular drive, the more writes you do, the less lifespan the drives have
TheFifthAce#4128: that's just a fundamental principle of rewritable drives
TheFifthAce#4128: therefore, if you take away this dram cache that the prefetch is using to store data
TheFifthAce#4128: it starts writing constantly TO THE DRIVE
Deleted User#0000: i’ll delete that
Deleted User#0000: i couldn’t help
TheFifthAce#4128: and if it's constantly writing to the drive, it's constantly wearing away at the lifespan of the drive
Deleted User#0000: yeh i know about the limited lifespan
Deleted User#0000: i believe my first ssd died on me
TheFifthAce#4128: which is why a dram cache is so important for an OS drive
Deleted User#0000: 60gb patriot blaze lool
TheFifthAce#4128: it doesnt matter for OS drives
TheFifthAce#4128: yikes
TheFifthAce#4128: patriot blaze is both dramless and has a shitty phison s11 controller |
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597711875672637440/image0.jpg
Deleted User#0000: lool
TheFifthAce#4128: so ye
TheFifthAce#4128: the ms30 is bad value, and a bad drive
TheFifthAce#4128: there are better, cheaper drives
TheFifthAce#4128: l5 lite 3d, x3 sunbow, etc
Deleted User#0000: is there anything good about 90 dollars for an 850 evo 250gb?
TheFifthAce#4128: fuck no
TheFifthAce#4128: mx500 is pretty similar for a fourth of the cost
Deleted User#0000: purchased...a couple of years ago?
TheFifthAce#4128: I mean
TheFifthAce#4128: a few years ago, you're just paying a premium for a top end drive
Deleted User#0000: looks like you can pay 60~ for it now
Deleted User#0000: it has onboard dram at least?
Deleted User#0000: also i didn’t know it was supposedly “top end” when i bought it |
TheFifthAce#4128: 850 is still an extremely good drive
Deleted User#0000: i bought it a couple years back after my patriot blaze died on me and i had to use the hardrive temporarily
Deleted User#0000: wait i’ve got one of my oldest uploads
Deleted User#0000: yoooooo https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597713579809964042/image0.png
Deleted User#0000: this is what nostalgia looks like
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597713757182885888/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: gamer moment
Deleted User#0000: lemme find a pic of my current desktop
Deleted User#0000: or at least from build 1807 before i updated to 1903 today
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597715567100559380/image0.png
Deleted User#0000: the only icons i have on my taskbar is file explorer, chrome, steam, discord, and spotify
Deleted User#0000: i keep all of my shortcuts in a folder instead
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597716498412339210/image0.jpg
Deleted User#0000: i have metal keycap replacements for qwer asd, the W key has seen better days
JustinXenyx#8854: My issues with this list (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3LrZtg): |
JustinXenyx#8854: 1. Uses first gen ryzen, while 2nd is better priced used and 3rd gen is much better for a bit more
JustinXenyx#8854: 2. It uses low clock memory with Ryzen 1000, which is notorious for needing high ram clocks starting from 3000Mhz to get the best performance
JustinXenyx#8854: 3. The SSD doesn't have a DRAM cache, which would be fine if it was cheaper, but A. I can get a 240GB SSD for about 6-9 bucks more and B. I can get a better 120GB SSD with DRAM cache for less
DarknessFalls229#2286: are you gonna shit on the hard drive next?
MythologicalZ#3752: I mean why not
MythologicalZ#3752: It's 50 for a 5400rpm drive lol
JustinXenyx#8854: 4. That case is pretty mediocre, it has shit airflow and considering you have such a big cooler i don't get why you would pick such a case
DarknessFalls229#2286: dont even know whose list he is ranting about
JustinXenyx#8854: The link is literally there
DarknessFalls229#2286: but WHO made the list
JustinXenyx#8854: And i didn't even notice the 5400rpm HDD :Hahahahaha:
JustinXenyx#8854: @Deleted User made it, he posted it with another list in a text file
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Deleted User you fucked up
JustinXenyx#8854: Although i will say, the PSU is pretty decent for 42 bucks
JustinXenyx#8854: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bvKf3b This is essentially the same list without a GPU and massive cooler, but it has an APU where that low clocked memory is even worse |
SussyBalls#4615: I'll be headed to Spain in a week, anyone know where you can get some good deals? I've seen they have a CEX, and there's 4 near where I'll be saying so I'll try those out
Tinybox#9112: Guy selling a broken GTX 1080 with this text:
when I plug it in, the monitor says "please connect power cable to the graphic card"
Buy or no buy?
SussyBalls#4615: Try and ask for a picture of the card in the case
SussyBalls#4615: if there's no cables connected you may be in luck
JustinXenyx#8854: Where do you live? @SussyBalls
SussyBalls#4615: I'll be staying in Alicante for about 14 days
SussyBalls#4615: the facebook marketplace seems a bit *eh*
JustinXenyx#8854: No, where you live, not where you'll be
SussyBalls#4615: Ah, Denmark
JustinXenyx#8854: Then Spain won't have any deals for you lol
JustinXenyx#8854: Spain has pretty shitty tech prices
SussyBalls#4615: Eh, they do have a CEX
SussyBalls#4615: maybe it could have something |
JustinXenyx#8854: CEX Stores suck lmao
SussyBalls#4615: They still have better prices a lot of times compared to what I'd be able to get near me
Tinybox#9112: Is an R9 390 8GB + i5 2500k/3570k used rig for 110 worth it?
SussyBalls#4615: what do you mean with 2500/3570k?
Tinybox#9112: 2500k OR 3750k
SussyBalls#4615: is the seller unsure? if so you could maybe haggle him a little
Tinybox#9112: negotiable is written below both cpus
JustinXenyx#8854: definitely @Tinybox
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx you forgot to mention the shit motherboard, the pro vdh plus is 5$ more
JustinXenyx#8854: the mobo is decent, its just pricy @TheFifthAce
TheFifthAce#4128: pro4 is 3 phase without LLC or SOC
JustinXenyx#8854: didn't focus on price except on the SSD
TheFifthAce#4128: thats not decent
TheFifthAce#4128: I own the board and its not the most fun to work with
JustinXenyx#8854: Its fine for its usual price of like 55-60 USD |
Deleted User#0000: aight no case in the build
Deleted User#0000: save like 50 bucks
TheFifthAce#4128: :what:
Deleted User#0000: use a plastic bin instead
Deleted User#0000: the ram is meant to be overclocked
JustinXenyx#8854: 3000Mhz ram is like 5 bucks more
JustinXenyx#8854: lmao
Deleted User#0000: OOF
TheGeekster#8508: Nope.
Deleted User#0000: sorry i can’t say the n word
Deleted User#0000: how about...my friend?
Deleted User#0000: that’s same def
Deleted User#0000: gotta keep it nice and G rated
JustinXenyx#8854: Not really worth going to save 5 bucks if you're thinking big scale
JustinXenyx#8854: like what are 5 bucks in $550? |
Deleted User#0000: 1600 costs a lot less and is the same thing as the 2600
Deleted User#0000: just like rx 470/480 is the same thing as the rx 570/580
JustinXenyx#8854: Nononononononono
Deleted User#0000: it’s mitigated with overclocks
Deleted User#0000: what did they bin the 500 series higher?
TheFifthAce#4128: nope
Deleted User#0000: what is the benefit then
TheFifthAce#4128: the 2600 is not a binned 1600
Deleted User#0000: then what is it if it’s not just a refresh
TheFifthAce#4128: ...a refresh, with a different node
TheFifthAce#4128: the 1600 has memory issues, overclocking issues, stability issues in general, etc
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597864218708017163/image0.jpg
TheFifthAce#4128: the 2600 basically just doesn't have those issues, and clocks higher
Deleted User#0000: how much more does it cost?
JustinXenyx#8854: It uses 12nm instead of 14nm, its a lot better with memory compatibility and doesn't need super high clocked memory for the best performance, it clocks higher thanks to 12nm, it doesn't have issues with outright not supporting certain memory kits etc etc |
JustinXenyx#8854: Its 25 bucks more RN, but it will drop in price a lot in 1-2 weeks
Deleted User#0000: great that’s all i needed to know
Deleted User#0000: the price
Deleted User#0000: i knew it’s on like 2nm difference
Deleted User#0000: https://youtu.be/TQLUcPWwo_8
Deleted User#0000: this was the video i was watching
JustinXenyx#8854: "Cheap", 1500X is 95 USD :Hahahahaha:
JustinXenyx#8854: The Ali prices he shows aren't that much cheaper than what they are locally to most people, except like 10-15 dollars
JustinXenyx#8854: But i'd rather invest those extra 15 dollars so that its here in 3 days not in 3 weeks :Hahahahaha:
DarknessFalls229#2286: ^^
ampersand#9247: Any recommendations for a laptop cooling pad or help with cooling my laptop in general?
My laptop averages ~85-95 C even with my current laptop cooling pad and a fan for even more airflow.
TheFifthAce#4128: new thermal paste?
TheFifthAce#4128: my laptop does about the same, laptops just run hot
ampersand#9247: hmm... |
ampersand#9247: it might be under warranty still since i've only had it ~7 months
TheGeekster#8508: honestly depending on the laptop, it might be by design to get that hot, i'd suggest a bit fat metal laptop stand with two fans blowing underneath, aren't gonna get much better than that without getting DIY
nacabaro#2138: My laptop runs 95-97c
nacabaro#2138: And I did repaste it
nacabaro#2138: It also didn't have dust
nacabaro#2138: When I get home I'll tear down my laptop because I can hear something rattling inside
nacabaro#2138: I'll take the opportunity to repaste it
TheGeekster#8508: i wouldn't bother repasting if you don't have to, the more you do it the more risk there is of something fucking up
Tinybox#9112: Is an i5 6500 (non k) worth it over an Haswell 4690k or a 3570k
DarknessFalls229#2286: id say depends on board
TheFifthAce#4128: for the integrated graphics
TheFifthAce#4128: intel hd 620 is decent
Tinybox#9112: Will be paired with an r9 390
DarknessFalls229#2286: have you considered mobo and ram?
Tinybox#9112: Yep the 3rd gen system has those red g-skill dimms 1600mhz. |
The 6th gen systen has hynix 2133mhz (I think?)
The 6th gen system has some matx oem board...
Tinybox#9112: And the 3rd gen system has an Asus deluxe z77
Jamie.Cullen#8363: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/598117663126061066/IMG_20190706_201338.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: id say 3rd gen system then
DarknessFalls229#2286: cause of overclockability
DarknessFalls229#2286: and maybe cheaper ram
Jamie.Cullen#8363: Heathrow Airport got that BSOD
Tinybox#9112: And the 4th gen system got some no name ram..
With a z97 formula board
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm
MythologicalZ#3752: OCF?
DarknessFalls229#2286: sounds also somewhat good
MythologicalZ#3752: Or the Asus meme
Tinybox#9112: Asus |
MythologicalZ#3752: Zzz
Tinybox#9112: MY BAD
Tinybox#9112: Asrock
MythologicalZ#3752: I'd pick the Haswell system then
MythologicalZ#3752: Z97 OCF is nutty
Tinybox#9112: It's the most expensive though
The 6th gen setup is 45 bucks.
The 3rd gen one is 55.
The Haswell guy wants 90.
Tinybox#9112: 'Euros
MythologicalZ#3752: Jeez
DarknessFalls229#2286: how much ram
DarknessFalls229#2286: 16 each?
Tinybox#9112: 8gb for all
DarknessFalls229#2286: ah |
Tinybox#9112: 2x4
MythologicalZ#3752: What are you going to do with the PC?
Tinybox#9112: Gonna be playing
Tinybox#9112: All the batmans , Rise of the tomb raider,both metros,the witcher 3, the borderland versions,rainbow six siege, All GTAs below 5,
On a 75hz (oc) IPS Monitor
DarknessFalls229#2286: haswell sounds like best aside from the ram
MythologicalZ#3752: If you don't play on Ryzen I'd get the 6500 and upgrade the RAM at some point
DarknessFalls229#2286: 3rd gen best for OC, 6th gen best for budget
DarknessFalls229#2286: 6500 also has OEM mobo ey
MythologicalZ#3752: Which OEM though?
DarknessFalls229#2286: probably like h110
MythologicalZ#3752: Meh, a 6700 should run
DarknessFalls229#2286: unsaid
MythologicalZ#3752: And they're becoming cheap
Tinybox#9112: @MythologicalZ lenovo |
Tinybox#9112: A lenovo h110
MythologicalZ#3752: Standard connectors etc?
Tinybox#9112: yep
Tinybox#9112: Standard size too
MythologicalZ#3752: See no reason to avoid then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
MythologicalZ#3752: The Haswell system is too expensive for what it is
Tinybox#9112: Alright, btw..the reason Rzyen isn't on the list is because..
The cheapest CPU alone, is 40 bucks, then a motherboard...go for about 35ish starting at the shit boards (le biostar no heatsink b350)
Then ddr4 an 8gb kit is about 20ish.
Tinybox#9112: And not a fast kit (2133mhz)
Tinybox#9112: 95ish would be the total
Tinybox#9112: I can't identify the biostar board,but it looks like one of biostars super low end AM4 boards with no 2933mhz memory support.
Officialy#2961: https://www.cclonline.com/product/226694/GM-1050/Power-Supplies/Game-Max-GM1050-1050W-80-Plus-Silver-Modular-ATX-Power-Supply/PSU1406/
Officialy#2961: How is it 1050w
Officialy#2961: For that cheap |
Officialy#2961: + 80+ silver
Officialy#2961: Aka do I trust
MythologicalZ#3752: Why do you want a 1000w PSU
Officialy#2961: I dont
Officialy#2961: But
MythologicalZ#3752: Get a proper unit for 70 quid from a reputable brand
Officialy#2961: That's cheaper
Officialy#2961: 850W EVGA one for 70
Officialy#2961: Probably gonna go with that
TheGeekster#8508: I would suggest NOT going for game max, it has a 1 year warranty that means they expect it to be reliable for one year
BigPierogi#3368: https://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-AMD-Radeon-HD-7850-1GB-GDDR5-FX-785A-ZNL4-FAN-MAKES-NOISE/183866734045?epid=141827783&hash=item2acf4fb5dd:g:unEAAOSw5wJdGXjg
BigPierogi#3368: Is this a good deal
BigPierogi#3368: Becuase i know how to fix it
MythologicalZ#3752: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/598140891919548420/unknown.png
BigPierogi#3368: i think if i put some machine oil to lubricate it it might work |
JustinXenyx#8854: depends what causes the grinding noise, if just some machine oil works thats great, if not a replacement fan is like 4-5 USD
Tinybox#9112: Quick question
Would you guys take an R9 390 8GB over an RX 580 4GB?
JustinXenyx#8854: depends
JustinXenyx#8854: the 390 has double the VRAM, but consumes way more power
JustinXenyx#8854: the 580 performs a bit better and is way more power efficient, but it has half the vram
JustinXenyx#8854: depending on if i can suck the power costs i'd probably just take the 390 and oc it
TheGeekster#8508: premium older card vs cheaper newer card :JeffreyIsThinking: i'd go the 390 too if you've got the power overhead and alright temps inside your case
JustinXenyx#8854: if i can't suck the power costs or am thermally restricted the 580 seems like the better option
Tinybox#9112: But which one would be more future proof 🤔
Tinybox#9112: Of the both..
TheGeekster#8508: drivers and optimisation? 580, raw hardware? 390 with the 8gb
Tinybox#9112: Just in general...which one would simply last longer/do it's job better for the time being
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, the 580 will get longer drivers + optimization than the 390 if you think long term
TheGeekster#8508: I'd personally go 580 because newer, quieter, cooler |
Tinybox#9112: I forgot to mention the custom designs.
The 580 is a NITRO+
The 390 is a STRIX card
DarknessFalls229#2286: oof GTX 580
TheGeekster#8508: i'd still go 580 but eh
Tinybox#9112: Alright thanks guys
DarknessFalls229#2286: if you can get a 8GB model of the rx 580, but the 4gb model should be fine too
Tinybox#9112: A "Z77 asrock extreme board"
For 25 euros.
Description:
"Not tested because I don't have a CPU, but it switches on"
Buy or no buy? @Tech Helper
Tinybox#9112: Or better said.
Tinybox#9112: Would you buy?
TheGeekster#8508: Personally? Nope, depends what you wanna do with it |
Tinybox#9112: @TheGeekster Building 2 RIGs based on 3rd gen.
Tinybox#9112: I'm grabbing one Z68 motherboard.
Tinybox#9112: I need another board though and this one just fits right in
TheGeekster#8508: If it doesn't work, will you be pissed at 25 euro?
Tinybox#9112: It's tight..so probably.
JustinXenyx#8854: that's the cheap way of saying "i probably fucked something up that didn't make it work so now i'm selling it as "untested" to make it seem like i never did anything" @Tinybox
Tinybox#9112: Ah ok :GWmemetownKappaChino:
JustinXenyx#8854: Unless nothing looks off, then maybe he actually didn't test it, but thats rarely the case
Tinybox#9112: Well no actual pictures of the board directly.
Tinybox#9112: Btw the Z68 board im picking up is an asrock Z68 pro3
Tinybox#9112: For 25 bucks fully working
Tinybox#9112: The old version of the pro3
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/598215139799597056/iu.png
Tinybox#9112: It's the only Z68/Z77/p67 board below 80 :Oof:
JustinXenyx#8854: that doesn't look like a trustworthy Z68 |
JustinXenyx#8854: it looks like a rechipped H or B series board
JustinXenyx#8854: rechipped board = same board except chipset
Tinybox#9112: y sure? https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z68%20Pro3/index.asp
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah, it has a pretty low end VRM for a Z68 mobo
JustinXenyx#8854: It reminds me off this and they look pretty similar for a lot of the essential electronics https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/598216168666431593/733246_1__8370869-1.png
Tinybox#9112: Think they just used the same layout?
And just slapped a Z68 chipset onto it?
JustinXenyx#8854: not the same, but a layout very close to that yeah
JustinXenyx#8854: VRM looks scarily identical
Tinybox#9112: Well then, Ill make sure to get 3rd gen and not sandy.
Tinybox#9112: Ill have airflow above it as wel.
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean, its a fine board, but i wouldn't say its that decent for overclocking
JustinXenyx#8854: You could maybe pull of an 2500K at 4.5Ghz with like 1.3V but thats with a fan directly over the heatsink but not anything over that
Tinybox#9112: alright.
Deleted User#0000: is this the hdd's fault? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/598224259126395033/JPEG_20190709_194920.jpg |
Tinybox#9112: GPU Or Monitor I'D assume?
Tinybox#9112: HDD feels unlikely
JustinXenyx#8854: looks like corrupted VRAM
Deleted User#0000: switched montiors 3 times
Tinybox#9112: Unless its making suspicious noises..
Deleted User#0000: And the initial loading is normal
Deleted User#0000: but when windows boots up
JustinXenyx#8854: then its probably the GPU that is fucked
Tinybox#9112: Could be when the GPU spikes in usage maybe
Deleted User#0000: shit, its intergrated
Deleted User#0000: and i just had it running normally like 5 mins ago
Tinybox#9112: Bad RAM maybe?
Deleted User#0000: perhaps
Tinybox#9112: Got a spare gpu?
Deleted User#0000: yeah i got too many, ill check ram because i swapped them around |
Deleted User#0000: the joys of buying faulty hardware
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, faulty VRAM would seem pretty likely tbh
Deleted User#0000: Im using intel graphics soooo
Deleted User#0000: sucess https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/598226027927306240/JPEG_20190709_195635.jpg
Deleted User#0000: Swapped the ram around
Tinybox#9112: ay
Deleted User#0000: i got it for 15 quid so im glad it even turned on
GoldenSky#4649: Happy days
Tinybox#9112: a bit anxious about shipping hardware
Tinybox#9112: or having it shipped to mr
JustinXenyx#8854: hardware shipping is somewhat easy if its in a case
JustinXenyx#8854: Seperate hardware can be tricky if its loose
Deleted User#0000: through what site? Or even a site?
Tinybox#9112: need a cpu and gpu to be shipped to me
Tinybox#9112: private seller @Deleted User |
Deleted User#0000: ah, well if you trust them and tell them to package it well
Tinybox#9112: Ah will you look at that the selller didn't write something in his description..
That makes him liable to two special law, issued by the EU and germany 🙏
MythologicalZ#3752: Bubble wrap, anti static and box for shipping hardware
MythologicalZ#3752: It's not hard
nacabaro#2138: is that linux @Deleted User
nacabaro#2138: or windows 10
Deleted User#0000: W10
nacabaro#2138: try entering safe mode
Deleted User#0000: its fixed now
JustinXenyx#8854: I would say that you gotta pick a box that is proportionate for what you're shipping, so that the hardware has not too much room to just loosely be packed in the box
MythologicalZ#3752: Most GPUs fit in a old shoe box or something
MythologicalZ#3752: For mobos,I try find something similar to the original packaging and go from there
Tinybox#9112: I feel a better now if he scams me I can now openly threaten him with the laws
hey worked once, and a guy gave me a half way refund for a partially defect keyboard(piano), that I went to repair at the repair shop. |
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