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kasey unblock jesse#0395: Assuming that was the problem
GoldenSky#4649: The BIOS manages everything on your system
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But 1 is just updated to the latest version
GoldenSky#4649: The configuration is what matters, not the updates
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Did clear cmos on both
Tinybox#9112: Alright..
Would a
chieftec APS-400s (10-15e)
or a
be quiet! Pure Power L7 (seller says it's 8 years old?) (price 10-15e)
OR an
Enermax PRO 82+ 425w (price: 10-15e)
OR
a Super Flower SF-450P14P (price: 5e)
Be enough to stress test an R9 290 (unigine valley), and then be used in a main rig (RX 580 <UV+OC || i5 2500k<will be overclocked.) |
Or are none of them enough?
Tinybox#9112: @Tech Helper
Yea sorry for the many pings...
TheGeekster#8508: Look at how much power an i5 2500k is using, and how much power an r9 290 will use, there are hundreds of online power suppy calculators out there, https://www.bequiet.com/en/psucalculator
Tinybox#9112: I mean, more or less.
Tinybox#9112: Which one would be better.
Tinybox#9112: And you know be "less of a risk"
@TheGeekster
TheGeekster#8508: they all will be, as they're used, and you don't know the history on them
TheGeekster#8508: if *brand new* then personally the super flower, enermax or bequiet
Tinybox#9112: alright then.
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd bet the SuperFlower would be the best one
JustinXenyx#8854: they make really high quality stuff
Tinybox#9112: thanks justing and qwan
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Lmao |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I jus got back and I wanted to activate windows
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s activated without a code
JustinXenyx#8854: Actually, you'd be better off with the Enermax @Tinybox
JustinXenyx#8854: the Enermax has the stronger 12V line
JustinXenyx#8854: dunno what the L7's wattage is, but going after the L7 430W the 12V isn't stronger there either
JustinXenyx#8854: the Enermax should be the best option
kasey unblock jesse#0395: @GoldenSky okay yes 6gbs sata is way faster
JustinXenyx#8854: @kasey unblock jesse Was the motherboard or PC used before with an activated windows copy?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Only mine
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But I found out why
GoldenSky#4649: I know it is lmao
kasey unblock jesse#0395: There is a code linked to my Microsoft account
JustinXenyx#8854: lol
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Only on boot up I get an extra message on the controllers info
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Anyways this motherboard had some one else’s windows on it |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I bought it used a year or so ago
JustinXenyx#8854: Sometimes it activates Windows 10 installs because a previous User activated Windows 10 on the motherboard and the install recognizes that motherboard and the associated Windows key
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I saw that on my old motherboard
kasey unblock jesse#0395: When I tried to use the key on a different Pc it would not work
Tinybox#9112: (Just for reference, incase you were about too ask..
Why I'm not going for the original deal with the antec p180 and all....
Guy doesn't want to budge for 15, and I really don't wanna go more over budget than I probably will already..(Gonna need an SSD none that I find reliable enough for a good enough price, that's why Ill prob go over budget on that)
Plus the Antec P180...rr I don't really want to have nearly the same case again.., although the cooler is prob nice.)
UPDATE:
I JUST FOUND AN EPIC DEAL.
ENERMAX PRO 82+, ESSENTIALLY a full pc without storage and all.
FOR ONLY 10 BUCKS!
Ill see if it's still avaliable
Tinybox#9112: Gonna attempt to talk that guy down to 5 bucks, because I'm kinda greedy, and he wrote "negotiable"
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Tiny |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: What kind of size ssd you looking for?
Tinybox#9112: ye hydration
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Adata makes cheap ones
Tinybox#9112: @kasey unblock jesse Just something that can store windows and pacman :Hahahahaha:
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Had 1 for a year now
Tinybox#9112: And I'm serious..
Tinybox#9112: I just want pacman on the ssd
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Adata is your go then I think you can get a 120 one for 20 euro or so
Tinybox#9112: If I score this deal here..
Tinybox#9112: Ill be able to afford an SSD like that
JustinXenyx#8854: generally most cheaper SSDs perform about the same, because there usually isn't any major quality variations
Tinybox#9112: Avoid Phison S series,
Avoid Silicon motion XT stuff
Tinybox#9112: correct?
JustinXenyx#8854: dunno anything about the XT stuff, but the S series gets a definite avoid from me |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Are those crappy ssds?
Tinybox#9112: Although I do have pretty good knowledge of SSDs,..
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’m looking for a relative cheap 1tb sata ssd
Tinybox#9112: XT series has no dram
JustinXenyx#8854: those are the model names for controllers used in various SSD's @kasey unblock jesse
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Thanks I’ll keep an eye out
kasey unblock jesse#0395: How can I check the best if my overclock is stable @JustinXenyx
JustinXenyx#8854: @kasey unblock jesse Best way to check is to use a stress testing program
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Which one
JustinXenyx#8854: Something like Prime95 or AIDA64 for CPUs, Furmark for GPUs
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I used furmark on my gpu once
kasey unblock jesse#0395: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601820392176353290/image0.jpg
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Stock speed
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Ran it up to 82c
wapted#6788: my gpu runs at like 84*c all the time tbh lol (when under full load) |
DarknessFalls229#2286: "this is fine"
BigPierogi#3368: mine ran at 80c all the time doing nothing
BigPierogi#3368: and when i ran a game
BigPierogi#3368: it shot to 100
BigPierogi#3368: and crashed
wapted#6788: nvidia 'founders' cooler with titan xp, oof
wapted#6788: considered putting an AIO on it but tbh cba
JustinXenyx#8854: My gaming laptop (i7 2960XM, HD6970M) can get pretty hot under full load, but i've never seen it exceed 85C on either the CPU or GPU, the CPU is slightly downvolted though
DarknessFalls229#2286: for some reason stock coolers are usually pretty bad
DarknessFalls229#2286: except for Radeon 7 and the newer NVIDIA GPUs
wapted#6788: If I wack the fan to 60% it runs around 78*c with pretty good boosting, but the stock nvidia fan curve trys a bit hard to be silent
JustinXenyx#8854: Radeon 7s stock cooler has pretty shit mounting pressure, if you want to put quality paste on there you need to use some washers for the screws, so that the mounting pressure is appropriate for paste. The 5700XT suffers a similar fate, but that's also fixed with 4 cents worth of washers
wapted#6788: ^
DarknessFalls229#2286: AMD is 'future proofing' with thermal pads
wapted#6788: o.o |
JustinXenyx#8854: That's a partial truth, but the mounting pressure thing is still unexplained by that
wapted#6788: Their performance remains pretty constant over time ye, but honestly they kinda suck
DarknessFalls229#2286: ^
JustinXenyx#8854: Being realistic here, dust is usually the bigger issue than TIM
RandomTacos#3695: Imagine a pascal cooler on turing
JustinXenyx#8854: A lot of custom cards reuse the pascal coolers for turing if i remember correctly @RandomTacos
DarknessFalls229#2286: imagine a 9600GT cooler on a 1070. Oh wait, 1070 katana
JustinXenyx#8854: lmao
RandomTacos#3695: I’m talking the fe coolers
RandomTacos#3695: Lol
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean, for the lower power cards it could probably work?
JustinXenyx#8854: Like a 2060, 1660/Ti, 1650/Ti etc
RandomTacos#3695: Probably
DarknessFalls229#2286: i wouldve hated if my 2080 was a blower style cooler
RandomTacos#3695: That’s would be terrible tbh |
RandomTacos#3695: Probably thermal throttling as well
DarknessFalls229#2286: So instead, my 2080 is passively cooled
JustinXenyx#8854: I still wait for some blower versions of those cards, because they would be really good for ITX builds
JustinXenyx#8854: Doubting we will get them, but a man can hope lol
RandomTacos#3695: They would yeah, but you have to think about the Zotac mini cards
RandomTacos#3695: They’re pretty good for itx builds
RandomTacos#3695: And keep reasonably cool
DarknessFalls229#2286: they suck air in and immediately let it fuck off
DarknessFalls229#2286: thats so nice about blowers
DarknessFalls229#2286: but usually dont do it silently
RandomTacos#3695: Not really
RandomTacos#3695: They are typically loud
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yee
kasey unblock jesse#0395: @Deleted User
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Im there |
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601834254271512596/unknown.png
Deleted User#0000: the gpu clock is depended on this bar
kasey unblock jesse#0395: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601834356025327648/image0.jpg
Deleted User#0000: is your gpu factory oced?
Deleted User#0000: yes
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I don’t know man
Deleted User#0000: its from xfx right
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yup
Deleted User#0000: maybe it could be factory oced to 1366mhz
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s on 472 rn
Deleted User#0000: coz the gpu usage is low
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I geus it slows down when not active
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yes
Deleted User#0000: oc it to 2.5%
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I can turn it up |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Where do I see %
Deleted User#0000: if you feel pretty nervous then oc it to 1.5~2%
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Oh there
kasey unblock jesse#0395: 2.6
kasey unblock jesse#0395: 2.5*
Deleted User#0000: and click the apply button
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’ll check the heat when my room is hot
Deleted User#0000: on the top side
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Done
Deleted User#0000: it could be alright
Deleted User#0000: coz im ocing my 590 to 5%
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Should I stress test it
Deleted User#0000: and it looks still good
Deleted User#0000: go on
kasey unblock jesse#0395: How much % is needed to tank a 590 |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Clean windows install
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I need to install furmark
Deleted User#0000: maybe more than 7%
Deleted User#0000: its almost impossible that the 580 gains the core clock like 590
Deleted User#0000: 590 oc*
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Is it not the exact same chip?
Deleted User#0000: but the reference clock maybe it is possible
Deleted User#0000: the 580 and 590 is same chip but
Deleted User#0000: 590 has slightly better chip than 580's one
Deleted User#0000: your 580 is still great so dont oc so much or make it hurt
Deleted User#0000: it could be enough with 2%
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’m poor rn
kasey unblock jesse#0395: So I can’t afford to break it
Deleted User#0000: xd
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Running furmark |
Deleted User#0000: run it for 1~2min
kasey unblock jesse#0395: 83c
kasey unblock jesse#0395: 84
Deleted User#0000: its alright
Deleted User#0000: the fan could be loud with that temp
kasey unblock jesse#0395: If it hits 90 I’ll turn it down
kasey unblock jesse#0395: 85
Deleted User#0000: maybe it cant
Deleted User#0000: every rx lineup cant go over 85c
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Could be https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601836119662788639/video0.mov
Deleted User#0000: automatically throttled
Deleted User#0000: or the fan rpm goes crazy
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Well it’s not as loud as my r9 280x toxic
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It indeed won’t go over 85 c
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But my room is also hot |
Deleted User#0000: :RginHd:
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I doubt it will reach 85 c in battlefield V tho
Deleted User#0000: theres some difference on gpu temp between furmark and gaming
kasey unblock jesse#0395: That was before the overclock https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601836539252703242/image0.jpg
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s 135 FPos now
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It downgraded
kasey unblock jesse#0395: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601836631300767784/image0.jpg
Deleted User#0000: sad
Deleted User#0000: it might be throttled
kasey unblock jesse#0395: So
Deleted User#0000: i think
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Turn it down to 2?
Deleted User#0000: have you ever tried undervolting the gpu?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: My room is 30c (is pretty rare)
kasey unblock jesse#0395: So that’s also a reason |
Deleted User#0000: oh
Deleted User#0000: then its reasonable
Deleted User#0000: to get throttled
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yup
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Dutch summers are getting hot sadly
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s slurping 145 watts
Deleted User#0000: 25c on here with republic of korea
Deleted User#0000: coz im on typhoon
Deleted User#0000: good for computer
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I like my room at 16c
kasey unblock jesse#0395: So this is almost unbarable
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Ah it got 40 c not so long ago
Deleted User#0000: holy
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yeah
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Holy |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But only for 1 day
kasey unblock jesse#0395: After that it was 28-32 c for a week
Deleted User#0000: btw idle on 50c is ok if you using zero fan technology
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Then around 20-25 c for 2 weeks and now there is a hot week again
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Indeed
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I thought it was broken when I got it at first
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Cuz no fans where spinning
Deleted User#0000: same
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’m gonna download some games now
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Any suggestions weeb?
Deleted User#0000: what about pubg
Deleted User#0000: or the monster hunter world
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’m broke
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I got pubg on my phone
Deleted User#0000: :Thonking: |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I like fast paced FPS games
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Not apex
Deleted User#0000: hyper fps?
Deleted User#0000: like quake, overwatch
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Do you mean like games that dont have a high ttk?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Faster than over watch
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Also
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’m talking games like titanfall fast
Deleted User#0000: go for titanfall 2
kasey unblock jesse#0395: That you can slingshot so hard around the map hit registration breaks
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I already got that
kasey unblock jesse#0395: There must be more like it out there
kasey unblock jesse#0395: One that has more than 1k players a day
Deleted User#0000: my bfv is still on download
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Origin download speeds am I right |
Deleted User#0000: are you on R&D mode?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: What
kasey unblock jesse#0395: R&d?
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601838873345130506/unknown.png
Deleted User#0000: sorry for ching chong stuff
kasey unblock jesse#0395: 8mbs is slow
kasey unblock jesse#0395: 9*
Deleted User#0000: coz ive set the limit on origin download speed
kasey unblock jesse#0395: No I don’t got r&d
Deleted User#0000: for 10mb/s
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But why?
Deleted User#0000: downloading another games on steam
kasey unblock jesse#0395: What would you get if it was unlimited)
Deleted User#0000: r6s ultra textures and TC's division
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Btw what does r&d do |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Division 1 or 2
Deleted User#0000: on rok the downloading speed is very slow as f without r&d mode
Deleted User#0000: the 2 isnt exists on steam
kasey unblock jesse#0395: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601839303664074762/image0.jpg
kasey unblock jesse#0395: That isn’t slow for origin
Deleted User#0000: 1gbps internet?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I pay for 500mbs
Deleted User#0000: oh
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I get that in speed tests
kasey unblock jesse#0395: To
kasey unblock jesse#0395: So I’m fine
Deleted User#0000: 1gbps gang
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Reg speed for most people is 100-200 MB’s
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But this is with 2 WiFi amplifiers/switches and 30m of cable
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Inbetween |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: So how do I get r&d
kasey unblock jesse#0395: If that would make it even faster
kasey unblock jesse#0395: ?
Deleted User#0000: holup
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yee
Deleted User#0000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiZL1EvuOZo
Deleted User#0000: check this stuff
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I did that once
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Didn’t do shit
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I think
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Was a long time ago
Deleted User#0000: it could be worth it to try it again
Deleted User#0000: its not so hard to activate it so
kasey unblock jesse#0395: That video
kasey unblock jesse#0395: was it made in 2009? |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I need to charge my phone
Deleted User#0000: 2k16
Deleted User#0000: but only with notepad
Deleted User#0000: xddd
Deleted User#0000: ***notepad tutorial***
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Oof
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I got a notepad tutorial
kasey unblock jesse#0395: On how to get custom crosshairs in titanfall
kasey unblock jesse#0395: There instructions I wrote for my retarded self for when I forgot them
Deleted User#0000: and 009 sound system too?
Deleted User#0000: then it could be a meme
kasey unblock jesse#0395: No it plays faded on max volume in a second tab
Deleted User#0000: thats also ok
kasey unblock jesse#0395: What’s that one song
kasey unblock jesse#0395: That HEEEEEEHEREERE |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: that people used
kasey unblock jesse#0395: That became a meme
Deleted User#0000: :Thonking:
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’ve got 200 hours in battlefield V
kasey unblock jesse#0395: How
Deleted User#0000: 23 hrs
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Well I was in the first open match in Europe servers of bf v. That was pretty sweet
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Wanna know what the first thing said was?
Deleted User#0000: go on
kasey unblock jesse#0395: BAttlefield 1 looks better
kasey unblock jesse#0395: By some pleb
kasey unblock jesse#0395: That’s the first thing someone said
kasey unblock jesse#0395: In the first open match in Europe
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I tried to swear at him
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But I found out there was a cencor |
Deleted User#0000: xd
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s a r rated game
kasey unblock jesse#0395: WHY
kasey unblock jesse#0395: And then they added battle royale
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It was fun
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But no duo mode
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Then they added it TEMPORARILY
Deleted User#0000: the firestorm?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yes
Deleted User#0000: is it fun?
Deleted User#0000: ive never played that gamemode
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Let’s play it
kasey unblock jesse#0395: What is your location?
Deleted User#0000: 300+ ping
Deleted User#0000: republic of korea |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Weeb
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Omg no
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Autocorrect
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I typed eeeh
kasey unblock jesse#0395: And it corrected it to ween
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Weeb*
Deleted User#0000: :Xdxdxd:
kasey unblock jesse#0395: First round I played
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I sneaked up on someone on a hill
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Camped the entire match
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Last 8 people
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I tried to stab him from behind you know?
Deleted User#0000: and then you won?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It dident work
Deleted User#0000: oh |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It just poked him
kasey unblock jesse#0395: There is no behind execution
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Just a stab
kasey unblock jesse#0395: He turned around while i was spamming f and blasted my anus
Deleted User#0000: :RginHd:
kasey unblock jesse#0395: My pc is lagging
kasey unblock jesse#0395: What virus did I install
kasey unblock jesse#0395: NEVER ISE ONEDRIVR
kasey unblock jesse#0395: ONEDRIVE is dangerous
Deleted User#0000: 🅱angerous
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It backed up a virus
kasey unblock jesse#0395: New Microsoft account now
Deleted User#0000: ive uninstalled it with cmd
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I didn’t install it
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I need to do some titanfall |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But it’s downloading
Deleted User#0000: 2?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yea
kasey unblock jesse#0395: 1 is dead
Deleted User#0000: *trust me*
kasey unblock jesse#0395: 2 to but less
Jam#0384: Why would you use OneDrive anyways
Jam#0384: I turn that shit off every time i use windows
Deleted User#0000: its already installed when i install OS
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I do to now
Deleted User#0000: using google driv since 2k14
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Using a external drive since I got one
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I got so many speakers
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Weeb what is your origin
Deleted User#0000: what? |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Your origin
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Add me
Deleted User#0000: oh you mean the id
Deleted User#0000: yes
kasey unblock jesse#0395: TheOgShrek69
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Great name right
Deleted User#0000: xd
Deleted User#0000: LoIipantsu
kasey unblock jesse#0395: You really are a weeb
Deleted User#0000: added
kasey unblock jesse#0395: What does it mean
kasey unblock jesse#0395: There multiple
Deleted User#0000: lets go for text channel
Tinybox#9112: yooo
Tinybox#9112: Soo, i5 2400 + RX 580 4GB |
or i5 4570/4590 + R9 290
Tinybox#9112: What would you take?
TheGeekster#8508: Haven't.... haven't you asked this before? like 50 times? :JeffreyIsThinking: I think it's always come out as the i5 4590 if you want more performance, but the R9 290 is not a good card due to the sheer amount of power it uses, but if that's all you can get, then that's all you can get
Tinybox#9112: @TheGeekster nah not this specifically...
Tinybox#9112: But, the R9 290 is on there because I bought a few recently for a steal. (to resell)
TheGeekster#8508: sell them, buy a 580?
TheFifthAce#4128: 580 is a better card
Tinybox#9112: Yea, I have 5x of them.
(Sale of 3x of them would go to my dad)
(2x to me, I was thinking of selling one of them (and pocket the money add it to saving)), So 1x would be left)
Selling the one and add it to get an RX 580 for my bro? 🤔
Alright then.. yea @TheGeekster Sorry if I'm a bit annoying..
Again thanks ye both.
Tinybox#9112: Also I think I made a choice,
Ill sell all of the R9 290s, buy a new phone :GWonoYesBully: , and pocket the rest. |
And just get my bro an RX 570/470
Jam#0384: I would go with the better cpu
Jam#0384: Because with a better gpu later on you’ll get a lot more out of the system
Jam#0384: But thats just me
JustinXenyx#8854: He's on a pretty tight budget tho @Jam
JustinXenyx#8854: But yeah, i'd probably pick the newer CPU over the slightly better GPU @Tinybox
Jam#0384: You’ll have a lot more life on that system
Jam#0384: Well probably only an extra year or two but honestly
Jam#0384: That’s an extra year or two to save up for something better or even get something you need for real life
Bertie Kemp#1114: How does my fx-6200 still throttle at 70'C when i have a pure rock slim cooling it?
JustinXenyx#8854: the majority of Bulldozer chips report wrong temperatures, maybe it isn't at 70C?
JustinXenyx#8854: Or it could be the power delivery that's getting to hot @Bertie Kemp
TheFifthAce#4128: or the cpu could be performing a rio
Bertie Kemp#1114: oh, ill have a look at that then, it throttles pretty badly even with a desk fan pointed at it
DarknessFalls229#2286: Sounds a bit weird, ive got an fx 8350 running regularly with old TP and a decent cooler. Only when its overclocked to 4.7GHz it thermally shuts down at ~78C. Dunno why yours is acting like that/getting that hot |
JustinXenyx#8854: Checked VRM temps? @DarknessFalls229
JustinXenyx#8854: VRMs overheating is a major issue for FX sadly
DarknessFalls229#2286: Mightve been, but i dont really think so
DarknessFalls229#2286: Always thermally shutdown when CPUTN was at ~78C
Matthew1993#8677: Hello, I was wondering if anyone can help me with something?
GoldenSky#4649: Better to mention what you want help for rather than ask for help
Matthew1993#8677: I was going to ask about the Windows 2000 video that @Budget uploaded while back. I recently bought an old laptop to use Windows 2000. I need to find some ram and probably another HDD since it wouldn't boot to bios. I thought the motherboard was fired until i looked at the ram and it was missing.
Matthew1993#8677: I honestly never tried Windows 2000 but i have experience with Windows XP so i should kinda be good there.
BigPierogi#3368: you dont need a hdd to boot to bios
Matthew1993#8677: true but since I got it second hand it probably is missing the hdd.
Matthew1993#8677: then again I was lucky enough last August to grab an iMac G4 for about 50 dollars at the same store. It works fine and still have the hdd.
MythologicalZ#3752: What's the question though?
TheFifthAce#4128: >lucky
TheFifthAce#4128: >paying for apple
Matthew1993#8677: Just got back on. I was wondering what would be the best modern applications (like Web Browsing), for Windows 2000 if i wanted to see how it would work in 2019? |
XSpaTanx117X#0117: @Tech Helper what happens if the CPUs FSB is faster than the RAM MHz
XSpaTanx117X#0117: Just a performance hit or everything breaks
JustinXenyx#8854: If your CPU's FSB is faster than RAM, then either you've got very low clocked memory or something is VERY wrong
XSpaTanx117X#0117: CPU:1333
RAM:1066
Would that cause any problems
JustinXenyx#8854: No, that's fine
JustinXenyx#8854: What platform are we talking here?
JustinXenyx#8854: LGA775?
XSpaTanx117X#0117: Ok
XSpaTanx117X#0117: Yee
JustinXenyx#8854: Ok, thats normal then
JustinXenyx#8854: i was thinking a bit more modern when i wrote my first answer
XSpaTanx117X#0117: I'm not really gaming really hard the most powerful thing that I'm probably end up going to be playing is as sto
XSpaTanx117X#0117: Thank you for the assistance |
TheFifthAce#4128: @Matthew1993 K-Meleon
mi3night#2562: Good laptop recommendations for school and light gaming? @JustinXenyx
mi3night#2562: $250
mi3night#2562: Not ultrabooks but I don’t want a brick either
JustinXenyx#8854: define "light gaming" a little further please @mi3night
mi3night#2562: Csgo and league
mi3night#2562: E sports title mainly
mi3night#2562: Overwatch might be a consider for me
JustinXenyx#8854: Hmm, Intel HD Graphics could still cut that, but i think Overwatch will be a slight challenge
mi3night#2562: Yea that’s why it’s a consider for me
mi3night#2562: I’m thinking about Lenovo x1 but dual core
JustinXenyx#8854: the X1 seems like a decent option tho
JustinXenyx#8854: and a dual core is definitely still fine for csgo and league
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/602530716248440842/image0.png
mi3night#2562: Oof |
mi3night#2562: Well
mi3night#2562: @JustinXenyx whats the best model to pick from cuz the i5 7200u HW unboxed got is quite shit
JustinXenyx#8854: that's surprising, i would've thought it would do better in CS and worse in Overwatch lol
JustinXenyx#8854: maybe a higher clocked chip would do better?
JustinXenyx#8854: Like a i7 7500U or so
JustinXenyx#8854: Should still be in the price range afaik
mi3night#2562: @JustinXenyx is it a good idea rn to keep the MacBook
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah, i'd put in a new battery tho
mi3night#2562: I’m thinking about a Lenovo p5x in the future
mi3night#2562: @JustinXenyx hows a p50
mi3night#2562: Lenovo
SussyBalls#4615: do you have a max weight/size? if not you could go for a used workstation laptop with an mxm slot
JustinXenyx#8854: which generation? @mi3night
JustinXenyx#8854: Nah, fuck them for school @SussyBalls
mi3night#2562: 6820hk |
mi3night#2562: I think
JustinXenyx#8854: 6820HQ
mi3night#2562: Oh yea
JustinXenyx#8854: because they never sold the P50 with a 6820HK lol
JustinXenyx#8854: also, forget what i said about the generation
JustinXenyx#8854: because you already said that lol (next gen would be P51 etc)
Deleted User#0000: Ive got a cpu fan which is extremely loud, it is in the correct header and mounted correctly but just goes turbo mode
Deleted User#0000: any ideas why?
DarknessFalls229#2286: CPU fan profile in bios. Its probably set to performance. Change it to silent or optimal for better acoustics
DarknessFalls229#2286: or some motherboards/fans just dont have good fan control, 3 of my 4 older zalman fans just go full blast 24/7
Deleted User#0000: its fixed now
Deleted User#0000: swapped my cmos
DarknessFalls229#2286: what?
Lady Mipha#0611: He probably swapped out his cmos battery @DarknessFalls229
DarknessFalls229#2286: so he essentially reset the bios just to change a fan setting |
DarknessFalls229#2286: sounds a bit much but ok i guess
Deleted User#0000: Ive also got a mobo where the power led light, lights up for less then a second
SuSSudio#2688: https://www.techradar.com/amp/news/amd-will-struggle-to-compete-with-intel-when-it-comes-to-laptop-processors
MythologicalZ#3752: We know Ice lake will be mobile and it's better CFL IPC so it makes sense
TheFifthAce#4128: intel should stick to laptops, its where they thrive, low power high performance mobile chips have always been their thing and its unlikely amd will catch up
JustinXenyx#8854: I don't think they'll just stick to laptops @TheFifthAce
JustinXenyx#8854: they're invested way to much into 10nm, meaning they need to earn back the money that was used for 10nm development
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx yeah
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Of my my rx 580 fans is broken fuck
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603063059589758977/image0.jpg
mi3night#2562: My paper isn’t loading in is there something messing?
Ramiere#1840: What's a LGA 1155 chip on par ith the i3 8100
Deleted User#0000: An i5 750 is capable of light gaming correct?
SuSSudio#2688: i3 8100 is lga 1151
Lady Mipha#0611: He’s saying what 1155 cpu can match a i3 8100 @SuSSudio |
SuSSudio#2688: Oh, the i7 2600/2700K is about i3 8100 performance as far as i can remember
SuSSudio#2688: i5 750 will run most games at med settings, high in few games. Assuming you have a decent video card to run alomgside it.
SuSSudio#2688: Also it's true that Intel were too ambitious in developing 10nm chips, their primary target was increasing transistor density 2.7x over the 14nm skylake chips. That invokes design difficulties.
Now they dialed down density multiplier to 2.0x like their previous chips did.
neps#8085: A 7770 with a X4 965 will be a CPU bottleneck or a GPU bottleneck?
Galilool#3398: CPU
JustinXenyx#8854: @SuSSudio @Ramiere I feel like an overclocked i5 2500K is going to be the closer match to the i3 8100
DarknessFalls229#2286: @neps I think mostly GPU bottlenecked, but a rather balanced system. If you want to upgrade do GPU first then later CPU
JustinXenyx#8854: GPU Bottleneck definitely, but i wouldn't upgrade the CPU/GPU any further, as going any further is not really worth it @neps
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, if you want to upgrade, move to a different platform
Tinybox#9112: alright soo..
Tinybox#9112: My absolute fail has just been turned to one beam of hope (the enermax pro 82+ I bought didn't have the PCie express connectors)
(to refresh xD, I bought a full case, with an enermax pro 82+, ONE BEEFY AS HECC cooler, one HTPC case (moncaso 932), a core 2 duo, an lga 775 asus board, and 4gb of ddr2 all for 5 bucks)
Now I can either, buy that PCIe express connector for 5 bucks (12pin>x2 6+2 pin) for 5 bucks <listing just pooped up |
OR I can go ahead, and buy a Super Flower SF-450P14P for 5 bucks and then spend another 3 bucks, on an adapter PCIe Express 6 pin to 8 pin..
If I go for the 2nd route, I'd need to test the R9 290s with SATA POWER (on the 6 pin)
Tinybox#9112: BUCKS=Euros (yea sorry that I call euros bucks :GWmemetownKappaChino: )
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx maybe?
DarknessFalls229#2286: so either 8 pin splitter or PSU+8pin or sata power 8 pin
DarknessFalls229#2286: if you use enough rails you could test it with sata power no prob. but best bet might be 8 pin splitter
Tinybox#9112: @DarknessFalls229 No no it's more like:
Should I buy the adapter for the pro enermax pro 82 and keep that.
Tinybox#9112: Or the thing you just said
Tinybox#9112: (and buy the superflower)
JustinXenyx#8854: wait, your Pro 82+ doesn't have PCIe power? wtf
Tinybox#9112: It's half modular
DarknessFalls229#2286: dunno about the quality of the PSUs but i think the adapter might be best over a 5 euro PSU with 8pin adapter, if youre gonna test a 290 on ONLY sata power id say no
JustinXenyx#8854: Makes sense i guess
Tinybox#9112: it's like I can yolo the superflower and throw away the pro enermax pro 82+ instead of picking up that 12 pin cable it needs.. |
Tinybox#9112: (for 5 bucks no shipping)
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd grab the cable
Tinybox#9112: Or I can yeet the superflower, for 5 bucks along with an adapter..(adapter from amazon)
Tinybox#9112: 5+3
Tinybox#9112: So 8 bucks for the superflower option
Tinybox#9112: and aight @JustinXenyx @DarknessFalls229
Tinybox#9112: Ill get the 12 pin adapter thigny
Tinybox#9112: and hope it works :GWmemetownKappaChino:
Tinybox#9112: first I need to clean this dusty boi
Tinybox#9112: Then Ill need to get a new cooler because the beefy as frick cooler doesn't fit by a few mm
Deleted User#0000: An i5 3300 will outperform an i5 2400 correct?
JustinXenyx#8854: i3 3330?
JustinXenyx#8854: @Deleted User
Deleted User#0000: i5 3300
JustinXenyx#8854: wtf is a i5 3300 |
Deleted User#0000: Thats what i thought it but exists https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603209346549022725/JPEG_20190723_135820.jpg
MythologicalZ#3752: No ARK listing
JustinXenyx#8854: that's a i5 3330 @Deleted User
Deleted User#0000: yeah
MythologicalZ#3752: 🗿
MythologicalZ#3752: Its an Ivy 2400 essentially
MythologicalZ#3752: So it will beat it but not by a ton
MythologicalZ#3752: Although
MythologicalZ#3752: 200mhz lower boost
Deleted User#0000: well theres one for sale locally for a tenner so thought i might get it to upgrade from my i5 2400
JustinXenyx#8854: You can't call it a realistic upgrade to be perfectly honest
Deleted User#0000: well i might just buy it and sell it to cex and make 6 quid
Tinybox#9112: uhh yeaa sorry to jump into the conversation like that..
I have a moncaso 932..
I CAN'T FIND the MAXIMUM CPU COOLER HEIGHT ANY WHERE! |
Well I know my cooler with 155mm CALCULATED FROM THE CPU CONTACT PLATE (15.5 CM) is 2cm to big (20mm, It's actuallly a bit less to big than 20mm but just incase) this makes the "the maximum cpu height" about 135mm right?
...does this make the Sharkoon Silent eagle compatible? (or is the height calculated from the heatsink (you know the fins), and not the cpu plate?)
Tinybox#9112: (this silent eagle) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603212560489250830/iu.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: *9 minutes of inactivity *
"Sorry to jump into the conversation like that"
What conversation?
Tinybox#9112: @DarknessFalls229 I was typing during this conversation
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603213365820522506/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: That's why
DarknessFalls229#2286: lol
Tinybox#9112: I finished typing way later though :GWmemetownKappaChino:
SanteRaptor#2609: @Tech Helper I moved my 9650 cpu from one machine to another am2 pc and now i face there being no image
SanteRaptor#2609: gpu is the same
JustinXenyx#8854: what's the mobo? @SanteRaptor
SanteRaptor#2609: n2r-fvm/vp/s @JustinXenyx |
SanteRaptor#2609: OH
SanteRaptor#2609: http://bluwiki.com/go/ASUS_M2R-FVM#Official
SanteRaptor#2609: I thonk its this
SanteRaptor#2609: @JustinXenyx
SanteRaptor#2609: Oh fuck
SanteRaptor#2609: No support for the chip
SanteRaptor#2609: day wasted
SanteRaptor#2609: Could i do something to make it work?
JustinXenyx#8854: Nah, you're probs screwed, its not worth your time modding it to work
SanteRaptor#2609: IT IS
JustinXenyx#8854: Trust me, once you consider all the shit you need to know to make it work, it really is a waste of time
Tinybox#9112: soo
Tinybox#9112: umm, my GPU has DVI/2x HDMI/2x DP
My Monitor ONLY features DVI-D, DP, VGA
The Screen on my case is VGA <sucks |
So, now what if I just pluged the screen on my case INTO the mobo, and my MONITOR into the GPU..
(I just want to use the screen on the case to play some animations, or just have it HAVE a background)
@JustinXenyx Would thaat work?
JustinXenyx#8854: what screen in your case?
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, it may or may not depending on the board
Tinybox#9112: It's got a 7inch screen
Tinybox#9112: On the front
Tinybox#9112: (my case)
JustinXenyx#8854: pic please lol
Tinybox#9112: k
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603224028588802060/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603224150693380107/iu.png
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, VGA is enough for that lol
Tinybox#9112: I'd just have a mario on the screen
JustinXenyx#8854: Just make sure to activate the iGPU in your mobo settings |
Tinybox#9112: Like the retro one with a black background
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx Yea but will it interfere?
Tinybox#9112: you know will it still use the GPU?
Tinybox#9112: (for the main monitor)
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, the main monitor will chill on the main GPU, while the little screen just does its thing on the iGPU
JustinXenyx#8854: It may have some slight driver issues, but nothing major as far as i know
Tinybox#9112: Alright
SanteRaptor#2609: Just tell me how @JustinXenyx
SanteRaptor#2609: Am a lil bitch whos really upset rn
SanteRaptor#2609: You dont know what im capable of
JustinXenyx#8854: Actually, i'll take that back, your Chipset doesn't support the chips at all @SanteRaptor
SanteRaptor#2609: Well shit man
SanteRaptor#2609: Well atleast i got to clean my pcs
SanteRaptor#2609: Good me
boog#9487: hey im looking for a new phone because i broke my last one i ordered a moto x4 (my budget is like 160 so) and the turned off and wouldn't turn on in less that 10 hours of use so i sent it back im wondering what do you guys think i should get i looked at the pixel one xl 128gb used and it fits just it doesn't have radio which isn't necessary i guess but also doesn't have water proofing but what do you guys think? |
boog#9487: also i have a cdma carrier so that limits things
JustinXenyx#8854: first of all, i know jack shit about us carriers etc so i may recommend a phone that's not compatible with your current us carrier
boog#9487: ill do the research you just need to recommend
JustinXenyx#8854: Any particular price range or OS you'd prefer? @boog
boog#9487: uh i would like it to have android and oreo (8.0) or newer
boog#9487: oh and under 175 used
boog#9487: didnt read that fully
boog#9487: well aim low for price
boog#9487: im cheap as fuck
boog#9487: and have no money
JustinXenyx#8854: A OnePlus 3/3T should be available for a tad over 110 USD
boog#9487: hmm
boog#9487: what about another to compare
JustinXenyx#8854: A LG G5 should be REALLY cheap
JustinXenyx#8854: the G5 wasn't really seen as a decent phone at its time, but for its current price (usually under 100 USD) its excellent |
boog#9487: is it good for every day use though?
JustinXenyx#8854: Its a flagship from 2016, its going to be more than enough for day-day usage
boog#9487: ok
boog#9487: important question (i hate i have to ask this) do they have headphone jacks?
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah they have them
boog#9487: good
boog#9487: i cant stand having to charge my headphones
boog#9487: my friend just recommended the pixel 1 i found a xl 128gb for 148 used america bucks is that good
boog#9487: actually that g5 looks nice
boog#9487: removable battery and radio
neps#8085: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603285727484182722/Screenshot_20190723_210149_com.facebook.katana.jpg
neps#8085: Anyone have any idea tf this is?
JustinXenyx#8854: shit @neps
JustinXenyx#8854: probably a GTS450 or something like that
JustinXenyx#8854: i take it back, its a GTS250 |
neps#8085: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603288606811095041/Screenshot_20190723_211313_com.facebook.katana.jpg
neps#8085: Wow
neps#8085: 2 euro for a 2500k
neps#8085: But that chinese text scares me
JustinXenyx#8854: The majority of ebay bulk cpu's come from china
JustinXenyx#8854: but that listing is probably still a scam
JustinXenyx#8854: 2500k's still go for atleast 20 times that
SussyBalls#4615: He just googled i5 2500k, it's the second picture that shows, the Chinese text is fine
But asking the seller to see if he meant 2€ should not hurt https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603289749221933068/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: ***Is it worth it to get a 2.5 inch HDD, if it's only 5 bucks (1TB)
if I wanted a 3.5inch HDD, It would only be 500GB***
Tinybox#9112: The 2.5 inch is an "external hdd"
Tinybox#9112: I'd take it apart, and hope it's sata (it's got one single micro usb?)
Tinybox#9112: forgot the anme of this here
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603313479507640334/unknown.png |
Ramiere#1840: @JustinXenyx thanks
JustinXenyx#8854: Are you going to store important information on that drive? @Tinybox
Tinybox#9112: Yep
Tinybox#9112: I mean I also have a samsung 750 evo
Tinybox#9112: around.
JustinXenyx#8854: I wouldn't use it for important information, only stuff like games etc
JustinXenyx#8854: Stuff that you're not going to need data recovery for if the drive fails and you have no backup of it
Tinybox#9112: All my private data is backed up, on the "backup" PC.
Tinybox#9112: With a seagate ES drive
Tinybox#9112: And some toshiba 1tb.
Tinybox#9112: I think in raid? I don't remember..I didn't set that up
JustinXenyx#8854: I've stopped recommending used storage devices if any important info will be stored on it, because lets be real: A new drive isn't going to cost you that much more and run more reliably than a used drive and if you need data recovery for that drive, you probably would wish you would've just bought a new one
JustinXenyx#8854: Data recovery on hard drives is really expensive, because it requires skill, patience and a REALLY clean environment
Tinybox#9112: Alright.
Budget#8265: Pinned a message. |
Budget#8265: This needs to be reitterated
Budget#8265: Unless its a cheap budget build and you want a cheapo £5 500GB Drive then do not expect it to safely store your data
Tinybox#9112: Alright.
DarknessFalls229#2286: I simply just say that you should backup your data. as i use rather old storage
DarknessFalls229#2286: My SSD alone has 15k hours
Tinybox#9112: yea, all my data is backed up mostly on my seagate ES drive
Tinybox#9112: I think that's the drive I fucked up display drivers on with DDU 🤔
Although lets see.
Tinybox#9112: ah anyway..
***kinda going bad***
Decided to try contact the seller, ask em if he still has the PSU cables.
no response..BUT he goes online every time I type something, so he's probably seeing the messages..
All OK, by me I guess ill spend the 5 bucks on those cables ay
Deleted User#0000: while the pc is on replay buffer or on recording, is the 'gpu - encoding' option doesnt affect to 3d performance?
Deleted User#0000: + is the gpu encoding performance is hugely depended between entry/highend gpu like 3d performance? |
JustinXenyx#8854: incode? Aren't you talking about encoding?
Deleted User#0000: typo
JustinXenyx#8854: encoding usually doesn't affect 3d performance at all, because there's seperate hardware used to encode video
Deleted User#0000: so the encode/3d performance is seperated, not aio right?
JustinXenyx#8854: it should be
Tinybox#9112: Hey justin..
Tinybox#9112: Would you buy a used Samsung 840 EVO?
Or would you go for a new INTENSO HIGH PERFOMANCE (Phison s10) Or an Apacer AS350 (see pic) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603323594382114837/unknown.png
JustinXenyx#8854: "Phison S10"
JustinXenyx#8854: you know my answer to that
Tinybox#9112: ***yep***
Tinybox#9112: But what about the apacer AS350?
Tinybox#9112: (see pic)
JustinXenyx#8854: I can't do anything with that picture because its not big enough for me to actually see what controller it has |
Tinybox#9112: update: I looked around, and I see..
This SSD has virtually the same layout and the same controller like the L5 LITE
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603324091843215360/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: *3d?
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603324411365556235/unknown.png
JustinXenyx#8854: i am not blind
JustinXenyx#8854: the second pic is enough
Tinybox#9112: Not gonna lie it seems like this SSD is literally a copy and paste of the l5 lite 3d
JustinXenyx#8854: SM2258 then, not that bad
JustinXenyx#8854: is it new or used?
Tinybox#9112: New
JustinXenyx#8854: grab that then
Tinybox#9112: Instead of the used 840 evo?
JustinXenyx#8854: Yup
Tinybox#9112: Alright, ill do that. |
JustinXenyx#8854: SSD's don't have that much performance variaton, it only comes down to if it has DRAM cache and a good controller
Tinybox#9112: Then ill see what I can do for the HDD
Tinybox#9112: Yea, it's more about reliability for me..
Tinybox#9112: Would the 840 evo USED be more reliable? than this SSD new?
JustinXenyx#8854: Not really
Tinybox#9112: Thanks justing and
So there has been this thing that has LITERALLY BEEN BOTHERING THE SHIT OUT of me https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603334404856872993/IMG_20190723_231511.jpg
Tinybox#9112: Ever since I used the home pc to create another "windows 10 hdd"
This has been showing up even when the hdd isn't present
JustinXenyx#8854: that's 100% your fault lol
JustinXenyx#8854: You fucked with the bootloader of your original install
Lady Mipha#0611: ^
Tinybox#9112: Ah well shit
Lady Mipha#0611: It’s fixable
Tinybox#9112: It still boots, it pops up to this panel. Takes 5 seconds then boots. |
Tinybox#9112: Oh how? @Lady Mipha
Tinybox#9112: (Im not on the new version of windows)
Lady Mipha#0611: You just need to remove the entry from windows
Tinybox#9112: ... Um how?
Lady Mipha#0611: Click Start.
Type msconfig in the search box or open Run.
Go to Boot.
Select which Windows version you'd like to boot into directly.
Press Set as Default.
You can delete the earlier version by selecting it and then clicking Delete.
Click Apply.
Click OK.
Tinybox#9112: Did that
Tinybox#9112: Restarting now
Tinybox#9112: YES! |
Tinybox#9112: Thanks A LOT!
Lady Mipha#0611: It’s ok
XSpaTanx117X#0117: I'm going to go on an adventure with this stinking fake graphics card
XSpaTanx117X#0117: Well I have something going for me https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603369479602307073/IMG_20190723_193339.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: You're not gonna have an adventure @XSpaTanx117X
XSpaTanx117X#0117: I know
JustinXenyx#8854: It's just a game of "will this runs somewhat, will it artifact or will it not run at all"
XSpaTanx117X#0117: I know I'm basically ready for an SPI flash
Deleted User#0000: Sorry for the offtopic, but anyone got any ideas if restarting my PC because it's stuck at 34% during a factory reset will fuck up my PC or restart the reset?
JustinXenyx#8854: that's not offtopic at all, its the perfect channel for it
JustinXenyx#8854: As to your PC reset, i think the chances of either one happening are very high, Windows can be pretty shit with that stuff @Deleted User
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd probably just reinstall entirely, it's way quicker than a factory reset and does essentially the same
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx uwu I found a good deal
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603452763002765325/unknown.png
Lady Mipha#0611: :Hahahahaha: |
Lady Mipha#0611: 110w max
JustinXenyx#8854: on 5v and 3.3v @Lady Mipha
JustinXenyx#8854: But, i don't know channel well that well, it may be a good psu, it may be a blow out @TheFifthAce
TheFifthAce#4128: ik its a good PSU
TheFifthAce#4128: I've used them before
TheFifthAce#4128: and I know exactly what prebuilt it comes out of
TheFifthAce#4128: it cant be more than a few months old
Hustin#6475: For $700, is a ryzen 5 2600 w/GTX 1070, 16GB 3000mhz ram, 1tb of hdd and 512gb m.2 ssd good?
Robin#5845: @Hustin hell yes it is
TheFifthAce#4128: imo not really
Robin#5845: Imo I think so
TheFifthAce#4128: how so
Robin#5845: Actually nvm
TheFifthAce#4128: lmao
Robin#5845: I forgot zen 2 dropped |
Robin#5845: The price should be way lower
Robin#5845: What should it be like $100-$200 less
TheFifthAce#4128: it should be 70$ less at minimum, and that's just with the GPU being used
TheFifthAce#4128: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bMTVsZ
TheFifthAce#4128: for 700$ thats a pretty shitty deal used
Robin#5845: If it's a pre-built the 1070 is probably a founders edition
TheFifthAce#4128: if its a prebuilt its even less worth it
TheFifthAce#4128: because they'd have skimped on parts
Hustin#6475: @Robin okie! Just making sure that It’s worth the price
TheFifthAce#4128: its definitely not @Hustin
Robin#5845: Especially the psu will be slumped
Hustin#6475: ??
Hustin#6475: It’s a bad deal?
Robin#5845: Yeah
TheFifthAce#4128: very bad deal |
JustinXenyx#8854: Its a pretty bad deal @Hustin
Hustin#6475: Oof
Hustin#6475: Prices here are high,so....
Robin#5845: I forgot that zen 2 dropped and I'm also tired af
JustinXenyx#8854: Ryzen 3000 kicked Ryzen 200 prices hella cheap
TheFifthAce#4128: where are you
Hustin#6475: Indonesia
TheFifthAce#4128: oh
TheFifthAce#4128: take it
JustinXenyx#8854: take that
JustinXenyx#8854: ASAP
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah
TheFifthAce#4128: grab it before some other fucker does
Hustin#6475: Lol ok
JustinXenyx#8854: your used market really isn't good with modern hardware |
SuSSudio#2688: Lol
TheFifthAce#4128: why'd people gotta use USD instead of their local currency
Hustin#6475: The gtx 1070 is used, that’s why It’s “cheap” here
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah dude go for it
Hustin#6475: K
Hustin#6475: Ty!
TheFifthAce#4128: 700$ usd for that in indo is solid
Hustin#6475: May I know How do you know the prices of pc parts here?
Robin#5845: It's Indonesia 😂😂
Robin#5845: I just used common sense
TheFifthAce#4128: I know people who live in indo
SuSSudio#2688: 13 million
Hustin#6475: Ooh
SuSSudio#2688: 2200G build is around 4-5mil
Hustin#6475: It’s 10 btw😅 |
Hustin#6475: 10 mill
Hustin#6475: Which is around 700~ US dollars
SuSSudio#2688: Common price range
Hustin#6475: Ye
SuSSudio#2688: even importing parts end up costing identically
Hustin#6475: Jeez...the prices in the US are so much cheaper than here
JustinXenyx#8854: If you're going to ask a question about "Is this rig a good deal or not" please include what region you're based in, so that we can have a good idea of how your local hardware prices are. If you're using a different currency than the one from your country mention that it has been converted to a different currency, if this is not mentioned it can cause major confusion
JustinXenyx#8854: Actually, @Deleted User can you pin that for me?
Deleted User#0000: Pinned a message.
Hustin#6475: Gotcha @JustinXenyx 😉
Hustin#6475: Does anyone have a good cpu cooler recommendation for ryzen am4 that’s under $30?
DarknessFalls229#2286: stock cooler will do fine
DarknessFalls229#2286: as were speaking about ryzen
Hustin#6475: Would it be fine if I overclock it with the stocl cooler?
Hustin#6475: Stock* |
DarknessFalls229#2286: mild overclock yes, but dont go too far
DarknessFalls229#2286: if you want to get the max overclock out of your CPU i do recommend an aftermarket cooler
Hustin#6475: Ooh ok
kittycat959#2895: @Hustin in this heat my CPU is topping out at 63c under full blender load with the stock cooler
kittycat959#2895: I have a r7 1700
Hustin#6475: If I overclock the r5 2600 to 4ghz, would it still be possible to do it safely without any risk with the stock cooler?
kittycat959#2895: Should be
Hustin#6475: Ooh, where do you live kitty?
kittycat959#2895: 75c is the max temp the cpu can run at all the time
kittycat959#2895: I'm in the uk
kittycat959#2895: Essex
Hustin#6475: Oh cool
Hustin#6475: Bcs I don’t wanna risk killing the cpu:/
kittycat959#2895: Yeah 75c is what it can run at 24/7 and be fine
kittycat959#2895: Peaks up to 95c |
kittycat959#2895: So try and keep it below 75c is what I would say
Hustin#6475: Noted.👌
Hustin#6475: Thanks for the tips kitty!
kittycat959#2895: You can probably get 4ghz without a voltage increase
kittycat959#2895: Or a very minor one
kittycat959#2895: You should be a ok for that on the stock cooler
Hustin#6475: I’ll see later
Hustin#6475: How do I know my cpu temp btw?
kittycat959#2895: Ryzen master is what I use
kittycat959#2895: It allows you to overclock inside windows aswell
kittycat959#2895: It's pretty nifty
Hustin#6475: Okie!
SanteRaptor#2609: So I got a pc with hd3200 built in and a Phenom 9650 as the processor with 4gb of ddr2 but win 10 installs fail
SanteRaptor#2609: Ive managed to install win 10 before on the pc with these parts but now theres just no luck
SanteRaptor#2609: Why cant i ping Tech helpers |
Lady Mipha#0611: @Tech Helper ^
DarknessFalls229#2286: id say check sata config in the bios
DarknessFalls229#2286: is it IDE/AHCI/IDE?
Lady Mipha#0611: Also could it be that the graphics is too old
SanteRaptor#2609: Where in bios is that? Darkness
DarknessFalls229#2286: i know my p5b mobo cannot boot when the sata config is set to enchanced supposed to compatible
DarknessFalls229#2286: its somewhere, just search
Lady Mipha#0611: Should be under boot settings
DarknessFalls229#2286: not every bios is the same
SanteRaptor#2609: I cant find a setting like that
SanteRaptor#2609: but i found the thing to enable the beebs
Lady Mipha#0611: Got any photos
Sulphurite#3623: Can i perhaps ask a question
SanteRaptor#2609: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603552075636539441/IMG_20190724_144013.jpg
Sulphurite#3623: Can i use this psu to power a EXP GDC 8.5 And a RX 560 OC 2GB |
SanteRaptor#2609: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603552263285243904/IMG_20190724_144100.jpg
Sulphurite#3623: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603552267949572106/msstart-ms-titanium-400-v1-atx-20-napajanje-uz-ppfc-slika-2_1012_1012.jpeg
Lady Mipha#0611: Advanced chipset or intergrated features @SanteRaptor
DarknessFalls229#2286: ^
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Sulphurite i think so yeah
SanteRaptor#2609: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603552639954714624/IMG_20190724_144205.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603552641364262922/IMG_20190724_144158.jpg
Lady Mipha#0611: What does sata mode say
Sulphurite#3623: @DarknessFalls229 what do you mean? "I think so"
SanteRaptor#2609: OH
SanteRaptor#2609: Its set to raid
SanteRaptor#2609: Other options are ahci and native ide
DarknessFalls229#2286: yes, i do think you can power the GPU and its slot with that PSU
Lady Mipha#0611: Set it to achi
Lady Mipha#0611: Setting it to ide makes it act like actual ide
SanteRaptor#2609: now the windows logo is off center |
DarknessFalls229#2286: ACHI should be best option, IDE should work too
SanteRaptor#2609: OH
SanteRaptor#2609: WE GOT A SPIN
SanteRaptor#2609: IT WORKS
SanteRaptor#2609: Thank you lads
DarknessFalls229#2286: nicely done
SanteRaptor#2609: Also should i use my hd3200 with this or my hd 4830
SanteRaptor#2609: My 4830 is the custom moded loud bastard
DarknessFalls229#2286: whichever you want mate
SanteRaptor#2609: which one would you use?
Sulphurite#3623: @DarknessFalls229 do you think a corsair vs450 would power it?
DarknessFalls229#2286: sure
DarknessFalls229#2286: @SanteRaptor Depends on use, for daily use the more silent hd3200. For power the hd 4830
SanteRaptor#2609: Thank you
Tinybox#9112: anyone got an idea? |
Tinybox#9112: how good these AVC coolers are?
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603604300802949140/iu.png
Tinybox#9112: And if they are enough for an i5 2500k OC (I got an adapter no worries)
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603604489227993121/iu.png
Tinybox#9112: @Tech Helper
Galilool#3398: pretty sure it won't be good enough
Galilool#3398: also won't fit on socket 1150
Tinybox#9112: Got an adapter
Galilool#3398: still, this looks like it would struggle with an i3 of the era
Tinybox#9112: this is the under side
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603606365914791938/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: alright though, ill see what else I can get then.
Galilool#3398: i'd use this for a stock athlon 240GE, and nothing more
Galilool#3398: maybe ryzen 3
Tinybox#9112: for the looks tbh |
Tinybox#9112: it looks quite a bit more beefy than the stock AM4 stuff.
Tinybox#9112: Besides the prism and max
Galilool#3398: still, that fan is tiny, and we know that sandy bridge has its fun with temps
Tinybox#9112: my only other option is a tx3 evo
SuSSudio#2688: i'm still wondering, does a 3 pin cpu fan cause instability to motherboards?
SuSSudio#2688: I'd like to sell my deepcool ice edge mini cpu cooler, but it only comes with 3 pins socket plug.. i'm afraid if it persists on buyer's system.. most mobo like all of you should know have 4 pins contact
SuSSudio#2688: I tried disabling Q-FAN option & it doesn't really solve the issue.. the RPM reading went straight to around 360K rpm.. lastly with windows boot it caused a system freeze & refused to boot after reboot attempt.
JustinXenyx#8854: they're shit and there's no proper way to fit them on intel sockets @Tinybox
JustinXenyx#8854: good for a 200ge at best
MythologicalZ#3752: ^
Alcyone#2233: I have one on a phenom 955be it stays cool enough for a 3.7ghz oc but isnt enough for 4ghz+, also its quite loud. Any $20 tower cooler will be better
Galilool#3398: Should I get the 5700 or 5700XT for 1080p 144Hz gaming? Can afford both and will wait for custom models
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx What about the TX3?
Tinybox#9112: Well also, I broke out my Alpenföhn ECO.
And tested my stuff. |
It booted to the bios succesfully.
Sadly my test drive decided to kill windows.
Tinybox#9112: And another sadly, sadly the eco doesn't fit in the case
JustinXenyx#8854: If you can afford both i'd obviously go for the better one @Galilool
Galilool#3398: i am just afraid that ir is OP for fullhd 144
JustinXenyx#8854: @Tinybox TX3 is shit for value, but they occasionally pop up for cheap prices
Tinybox#9112: Talking about 5 bucks new
Tinybox#9112: Don't have more to spend
JustinXenyx#8854: @Galilool I don't think its overkill
Galilool#3398: ok, thanks
JustinXenyx#8854: If you think in the grand scheme of things there will be some AAA games that won't even reach 144Hz with a 5700XT on 1080p
Tinybox#9112: I kinda just wanna know if it will be enough for an overclocked i5 2500k
JustinXenyx#8854: Nah @Tinybox
JustinXenyx#8854: the TX3 barely handles a stock i7 2600 if i remember correctly
JustinXenyx#8854: Maybe another @Tech Helper has a different opinion regarding if a Hyper TX3 can cool a overclocked 2500K? |
Tinybox#9112: I'm on a BIGGY height limitation.. (140mm)
I'd slap the eco on it if I could.
TheFifthAce#4128: why arent I tech helper
TheFifthAce#4128: anger
TheFifthAce#4128: hmmm tx3
TheFifthAce#4128: isnt that a freezer pro 7 but shittier
JustinXenyx#8854: I think the only similarities they have is the heatpipe count and fan size
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603713053539696676/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: :doubt:
JustinXenyx#8854: Delta Temps
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
TheFifthAce#4128: ik
TheFifthAce#4128: but matching the 212 evo is uh
TheFifthAce#4128: :ThonkEyes:
JustinXenyx#8854: A M9 also matches the 212 evo, it wouldn't surprise me |
TheFifthAce#4128: wack
TheFifthAce#4128: @Tinybox I mean what kind of OC?
TheFifthAce#4128: 5ghz? 4.5ghz?
TheFifthAce#4128: 4.5ghz would prolly be fine
JustinXenyx#8854: I think his mobo couldn't handle anything over 4.5Ghz because VRM is basically ripped from a H61 board @TheFifthAce
TheFifthAce#4128: lo
TheFifthAce#4128: should be fine then
Tinybox#9112: Ill put a fan on the vrm and push it as hard as it will go.
Tinybox#9112: I'm aiming for 4.8ish
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337235779384508417/603720948792950784/20190724_124845.jpg
fermi with its top off. time for some big oc
Tinybox#9112: y can take off the top?
JustinXenyx#8854: it's like delidding a cpu @Tinybox
Tinybox#9112: Ah cokay |
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx I'm seeing a lot of videos here..
Many people seem to have been able to push beyond 4.5
Tinybox#9112: one guy did 4.8 on his 2600k
Tinybox#9112: another one 5ghz
Tinybox#9112: Think I'd be okay if I max out the fan count in my case?
@JustinXenyx and run the CPU cooler in push pull
JustinXenyx#8854: I still wouldn't do that long-term to be honest
JustinXenyx#8854: Worried that the VRM's can't handle it
Tinybox#9112: alright
Tinybox#9112: btw justin I happen to happen to have a cooler that came with this
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603741972682899458/iu.png
Tinybox#9112: in the package
Tinybox#9112: I was thinking I could just take an AM3+ cooler.
Tinybox#9112: And use that..
Tinybox#9112: to use it on lga 1155 |
Alcyone#2233: I ran 1.43v daily on a 2700k. but i would pay attention to mobo vrm sensor if you are smacking the big volts
JustinXenyx#8854: So that's why you were thinking of using that shitty AM3+ stock cooler? @Tinybox
Tinybox#9112: Yep
JustinXenyx#8854: That sadly won't fit it, even if it did cool well
Tinybox#9112: I was thinking with a bit of luck
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603742306411085844/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: I would be able to fit this here
JustinXenyx#8854: maybe
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603742365022289921/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: I mean, mine is slightly brocken, with one lil side of an attachment pin broken off..
But it sits hard and still makes proper contact.
Tinybox#9112: I mean it would take luck to fit this
Tinybox#9112: But IF IT WORKED
Tinybox#9112: it would be a better option than the TX3?
JustinXenyx#8854: I think it would cool roughly the same |
Tinybox#9112: Ah well then
Tinybox#9112: Ill just get the TX3, since it's "new"
Tinybox#9112: and has no risk
Tinybox#9112: @Alcyone Alright
Tinybox#9112: pay attention to mobo vrm sensors?
Alcyone#2233: I used a deepcool s40 that I got for like $12 on amazon for my phenom, would keep a 2500k cool too
Tinybox#9112: I can do that
Tinybox#9112: yea I'm in a kinda sucky situation
Alcyone#2233: if it fits it ships, unless you are low on thermal paste just try whatever you got and see how it does
Alcyone#2233: i ran 2500k on the shitty stock intel cooler and it was fine with a babby oc
Tinybox#9112: My Alpenföhn eco doesn't fit in the case.
My other big ass cooler doesn't fit either :Oof:
I had to allocate the money to somewhere else..because of some mishaps.
So the cooler budget got reduced to 5 bucks
Tinybox#9112: And the only coolers around my area for 5 bucks.. |
Tinybox#9112: Are either that shitty AMD stock cooler.
Tinybox#9112: The NEW TX3
Tinybox#9112: or an intel stock cooler
Alcyone#2233: just run no side panel, unless that isnt the clearance issue
Tinybox#9112: Well I'd love to, but it would suck for looks.
Alcyone#2233: or mobo on top of a cardboard box until you can afford a cooler that fits
Tinybox#9112: This is the case I have
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603743675432042517/iu.png
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603743718113148928/iu.png
JustinXenyx#8854: you're on a tight budget
Alcyone#2233: thats one hell of a dvd player
JustinXenyx#8854: looks is the last thing you should care about
Tinybox#9112: I sure am, but Ill have it on my desk...(on top)
next to my monitor..
Tinybox#9112: can't have a PC there with no side panel ;-; |
Alcyone#2233: depends what you do, AAA gaming a 2500k is gonna need that oc to be smooth, if youre not struggling in games though just put any cooler on it and save money
Tinybox#9112: For the PCs safety as well
Tinybox#9112: I don't really play AAA modern games
Tinybox#9112: Just play all batman arkham nights all the gtas, a few "medium strength" story games,
Maybe the most demanding game I play is umm rise of the Tomb raider? The metros (yea prolly those)? The borderlands...? ARK?
Yea that's all @Alcyone
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337235779384508417/553985432837160960/20190309_075705.jpg
this is how my budget builds look
Alcyone#2233: save money on case fans if there is no case :Smart:
Tinybox#9112: I got 40 fans just lying around
Tinybox#9112: Fans won't be the issue :haha:
Tinybox#9112: anyway https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603745408438501376/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: these are essentially my fav games (bought on steam sale :yay:)
Tinybox#9112: @TheFifthAce Btw, THANK YOU A LOT, for the games you gave me back then :GWmythsBlobPresent: |
Tinybox#9112: Was absolutetly awesome lad
JustinXenyx#8854: @Tinybox He's really generous, he offered me to buy GTA-V because "he was bored and i'm a cool dude", still can't 100% believe it lol
Tinybox#9112: :GWczeWhat:
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/337235779384508417/603721346903441431/unknown.png
gtx-R 560 gogogo
Tinybox#9112: DAMN SOn
Tinybox#9112: abstract epic
JustinXenyx#8854: But i think those games are gonna run more than fine on even a stock i5 2500K to be perfectly honest
Tinybox#9112: Yea, I know.
Tinybox#9112: But ill try get the maximum out of it
Tinybox#9112: I sure hope ark will do well on it
Tinybox#9112: Heard ark can be pretty sucky with everything
JustinXenyx#8854: ARK is a bitch because it is optimized like shit
Tinybox#9112: Anyway I'm still slightly pissed of my testing drive deciding to shit itself |
Tinybox#9112: The only thing I see that will suck is that ill only have 2 front facing USB ports.
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603747083102715920/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: (switching out the card reader, will have its own usb)
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx I'll buy you it after I buy 5700 xt prolly
Tinybox#9112: Tbh, I just find this one thing cool
Tinybox#9112: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/moneual-lab-moncaso-t932/9.html
Tinybox#9112: some built in software
JustinXenyx#8854: btw, how did you even get that case? @Tinybox
Tinybox#9112: Well remember that 5 euro pack I was talking about
Tinybox#9112: it featured, this case, an enermax pro82 MODU (without the PCIe cable had to buy it extra for 8 bucks), a full intel core 2 duo PC (including a beefy cooler (alpenföhn eco it seems)), and a GT 520, and a lot of lil accessories including some Sharkoon fans (they are really quiet)
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx
Tinybox#9112: Quite a steal you could say
Tinybox#9112: Also had all screws
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, that's a bargain imo
Tinybox#9112: That's the reason I'm able to buy a new SSD or HDD. |
Tinybox#9112: Originally I assigned 15 bucks to the case.
Tinybox#9112: (and psu)
Tinybox#9112: Now that money is being thrown at another thing
Tinybox#9112: (I didn't count the 8 euros, because my dad felt bad, and covered for me, to be exact he also covered the 5 bucks.)
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx 40$ for 770?
Tinybox#9112: In my area that's a good deal
JustinXenyx#8854: Not that bad of a price, but Kepler meme @TheFifthAce
Tinybox#9112: I just got one more question
Tinybox#9112: um soo my ASUS Dual RX 580..
It boots fine into the bios.
But one fan spins, then stops spinning (ill assume this is because of the FAN STOP feature)
But aren't both fans suppose to spin on bootup?
TheFifthAce#4128: do they spin under load
TheFifthAce#4128: that sounds like its just turning the fans off because low load
Tinybox#9112: Haven't been able to test them under load yet. |
Tinybox#9112: BECAUSE MY FREAKING TESTING DRIVES DECIDED TO DIE ON ME
Lady Mipha#0611: oof
Tinybox#9112: I mean the drive itself isn't dead, it's just windows that borked itself.
No operating system is being recognized, and when I insert it into a PC, (it prompts me to remove any drives without an OS, and then try again?)
Tinybox#9112: Did the same thing across 2 rigs :Oof:
Lady Mipha#0611: It’s probably booting into that drive
Lady Mipha#0611: Well trying to
Lady Mipha#0611: And the computer is recognizing the drive as a windows drive without windows
Lady Mipha#0611: @Tinybox
neps#8085: HD 7770 is better than Vega 8?
wapted#6788: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603873718401236992/Capture_2019-07-25-09-58-20.png
wapted#6788: Pleass no one use userbench mark now 😆
wapted#6788: Their new update is just insane
Rinis#2222: User bench has always been kinda dookie
Tinybox#9112: @Lady Mipha I know it's trying, it bootloops for 4 times before giving me the warning |
Lady Mipha#0611: What does the bios say about the boot order
Tinybox#9112: Soo
Tinybox#9112: Would you guys buy an L5 LITE 3D 120gb NEW?
Or would you buy a used Samsung 750 evo 256gb (apprently lightly used, if you can take the sellers word for it)
@Tech Helper
Tinybox#9112: Probably a pointless ping..
Tinybox#9112: (The L5 lite 3d is 3 euros more)
eebro#1205: deat hto the rich
Tinybox#9112: brah im poor
Deinsti#5907: Hmmm
Deinsti#5907: The L5 lite has a considerable lower write speed
Deinsti#5907: and a moderatley lower read speed
Deinsti#5907: @Tinybox Does he specify roughly how lightly used, like how many hours?
Tinybox#9112: nope
Tinybox#9112: just lightly used |
Tinybox#9112: I mean ill ask
Tinybox#9112: (for the hours)
Deinsti#5907: It depends whether you want to risk it for a biscuit
Deinsti#5907: If it's genuine low hours, then the 750 would be a much better deal
Tinybox#9112: Ill ask him how many hours
JustinXenyx#8854: Actually, i think i'd prefer the 750 Evo @Tinybox
JustinXenyx#8854: the L5 Lite is quite shit
Tinybox#9112: the 3d one, not the normal one
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd probably still go for the 750 evo
Tinybox#9112: Alright seller responded to me with:
eeeh not many times, it was in my 2nd pc
Deinsti#5907: I would say give it a shot an go with 750
Tinybox#9112: ah well shit, I just realized if I go for the 750 evo, I'd probably need to downgrade the HDD to a 500gb from 1tb
Tinybox#9112: Should I still go for the 750 evo?
Deinsti#5907: Why do you need to downgrade it |
Deinsti#5907: Not enough space?
Tinybox#9112: doesn't fit in the budget
Tinybox#9112: with the current stuff in the market
wapted#6788: 500gb hard drives
wapted#6788: just
wapted#6788: not worth it
Tinybox#9112: 4 euros soo
Tinybox#9112: ill offer the SSD guy 17 euros
MythologicalZ#3752: @Tinybox Just get a health report of the Evo
MythologicalZ#3752: Then make a decision off that
MythologicalZ#3752: If it's got too many hours or shit health you know what to do
MythologicalZ#3752: As for the L5 Lite 3d it's fine https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603930473449652261/2ya0Pt1l.jpeg
MythologicalZ#3752: The non 3D is shit
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx he said 3d
TheFifthAce#4128: angry |
Tinybox#9112: @MythologicalZ
Do you think I should go for the 750 evo (256gb)+500gb hdd
Tinybox#9112: Or the l5 lite 3d (128gb) + 1tb hdd
Tinybox#9112: I got 20-22 left
Tinybox#9112: nothing more
Tinybox#9112: nothing less.
MythologicalZ#3752: Idk
Tinybox#9112: Well what would you do?
MythologicalZ#3752: For starters
MythologicalZ#3752: What are the prices on both drives
Tinybox#9112: 17 euros for the L5 lite 3d.
Tinybox#9112: (new)
MythologicalZ#3752: And the Evo?
Tinybox#9112: 20 euros for the SAMSUNG 750 evo (Didn't budge for 15, didn't budge for 17, ill offer 18, but for now it's 20)
MythologicalZ#3752: Right |
MythologicalZ#3752: What I'd do is get the Evo then if you get a solid health report
MythologicalZ#3752: Plus the 500GB drive
Tinybox#9112: alright
Tinybox#9112: ill pressure the 840 evo guy first for 18
Tinybox#9112: Already told me 20 is his line,
Tinybox#9112: But maybe a bit of pressure will do
Tinybox#9112: *750
TheFifthAce#4128: @Tinybox yeah go samsung
TheFifthAce#4128: better to have the bigger boot drive
TheFifthAce#4128: its not like you have an insane amount of games like I do
TheFifthAce#4128: 500gb storage should be fine
Deleted User#0000: What would you price a big spool of cat 6 cable at?
TheFifthAce#4128: buying or selling
Deleted User#0000: Well bought it for 3 quid
TheFifthAce#4128: solid |
TheFifthAce#4128: glws, not exactly a high interest item
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603937756493643786/JPEG_20190725_141251.jpg
Deleted User#0000: just bought cause i thought easy flip maybe
Tinybox#9112: radio silence from the TX3 cooler guys
Tinybox#9112: ah shit
Tinybox#9112: What do I do now :GWmythicalHyperREEEE:
mi3night#2562: R9 280x cf >. Rx580
mi3night#2562: Or no
Tinybox#9112: ah welp
Tinybox#9112: the guy with the 750 evo
Tinybox#9112: not budging below 20
Tinybox#9112: @mi3night nah the R9 290 stock is similar to an RX 570 4gb
mi3night#2562: Crossfire the 280x
Tinybox#9112: in games that scale?
Tinybox#9112: maybe? |
Tinybox#9112: but cf is kinda a meme
Tinybox#9112: @mi3night
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce i only say Deinsti say L5 Lite, that's why i didn't assume its the L5 Lite 3D
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx tiny had asked about the 3d
Tinybox#9112: yea I did, in my original message,
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx but it's alright everyone can overlook
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603984656806838280/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: But has your opinion changed?
Tinybox#9112: I see if I get the samsung Ill need to score a 2 euro drive
Tinybox#9112: No idea how easy that will be, 3-4 euros already wasn't easy
Tinybox#9112: although wait hey
Tinybox#9112: I found 2 euros extra
Tinybox#9112: meh it will be doable
Tinybox#9112: Anyway, has your opinion changed on the L5 LITE 3D (128GB) + 1TB HDD, vs Samsung 750 evo + cheapo 500gb drive stuff?
Tinybox#9112: the cheapo drive we are talking about is this one here: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/603986344573665330/unknown.png |
Tinybox#9112: (WD5000AAKS)
Tinybox#9112: Or the old old seagate barracude
Tinybox#9112: (from an external hdd I'd butcher)
Sulphurite#3623: I know i might sound dumb , but
Sulphurite#3623: Is the 4 pin connector that connects to the mbo same as all other 4 pin connectors
JustinXenyx#8854: what
JustinXenyx#8854: the question is dumb because there are so many variables that there is no possible answer
Sulphurite#3623: Nevermind im retarded
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx Has your opinion changed?
Tinybox#9112: 🤔
JustinXenyx#8854: elaborate further on that please @Tinybox
Tinybox#9112: Alright.
Tinybox#9112: I can get an L5 Lite 3D 128GB (or the copy) NEW for 17 euros + a 1TB drive.
Or I can get a "lightly" used SAMSUNG 750 evo 256gb for 20 euros + 500gb drive.
JustinXenyx#8854: hmm |
Tinybox#9112: The 500gb drive, would be a WD5000AAKS
JustinXenyx#8854: I think you'd benefit more from the extra 500GB of the bigger hard drive than the extra SSD space
Tinybox#9112: 🤔
mi3night#2562: Should I switch from rx580 8gb r9 280x crossfire
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Tinybox what about getting a good SSD right now, and then upgrade hdd later down the line?
JustinXenyx#8854: what's the total budget for hdd and ssd tho? @Tinybox
Tinybox#9112: 24 euros now
Tinybox#9112: I can't allocate any more to it.
Tinybox#9112: without cutting into accessory budget (keyboard and mouse)
Tinybox#9112: which is already a slim 10 bucks for two people!
Tinybox#9112: (Ill get Retro mechanical keyboards)
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx
Tinybox#9112: @DarknessFalls229
DarknessFalls229#2286: But what about my idea?
Tinybox#9112: I could do that as well. |
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, the idea from Darkness was a solid idea, buy SSD now, get HDD later
Tinybox#9112: Yea, thing is just the SSD alone can't fit all the games I'd like to play.
Tinybox#9112: I thought he meant like upgrading down the line.
Tinybox#9112: I get the 750 evo
Tinybox#9112: +500gb
DarknessFalls229#2286: You could do that too
Tinybox#9112: Then get another HDD or a bigger one
Tinybox#9112: later down the line
DarknessFalls229#2286: Or, do you think youve played the games* you'd want to play when you have enough for a good HDD?
Tinybox#9112: I mean, let's say I threw all the money at an SSD
Tinybox#9112: I wouldn't be able to get anything over 256gb eitherway
DarknessFalls229#2286: But what im trying to say is: If you played all your games on your SSD by that time cant you afford a good HDD? Or perhaps uninstall games as steam games are usuallly backed up in the steam cloud
Tinybox#9112: So you're saying I should,
Just buy the 750 evo, move the data, and download the games I want to play.
Then get a good HDD when I can afford it? |
DarknessFalls229#2286: (Move the data?) Yes, id say get the good ssd now and get a good HDD later, unless you can deal with a slower 500gb HDD
Tinybox#9112: @DarknessFalls229 to "move the data?":
Yea, I got a good bit of private data, and data I need for school
DarknessFalls229#2286: As long as it aint too much, sure
DarknessFalls229#2286: If you really need extra storage get that crummy 500gb hdd
Tinybox#9112: alright then
Tinybox#9112: Ill keep it in mind as an option
Tinybox#9112: Well
Tinybox#9112: I got one more question
Tinybox#9112: How good do you guys thing the cooler of the HP XW4600 cooler (3 heatpipe one) would be? And if it's OKAY for my i5 2500k OC https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/604035562101407806/iu.png
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/604035589452333095/iu.png
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx maybe? @DarknessFalls229 if youre still here
JustinXenyx#8854: I don't think its able to do the kinda OC you're thinking off, but a slight overclock is definitely possible
Tinybox#9112: Well I really want to get a Zalman CNPS
Tinybox#9112: Those are reallyyy good |
Tinybox#9112: and fit in my case with ez
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx btw all coolers I buy I will be running them in push pull
Tinybox#9112: if that makes a difference
JustinXenyx#8854: depends on your airflow
Tinybox#9112: It's pretty good
JustinXenyx#8854: if you got a bit bad airflow, i think the push pull is gonna pull better temps
Tinybox#9112: fans are maxed out
Tinybox#9112: air is blowing everywhere
Tinybox#9112: I got 2 fans on top of the mobo, 2 at the back 3 just blowing air across the case
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/604039450921795622/unknown.png
Tinybox#9112: Although ill have to see more if I have enough **quiet** fans
Tinybox#9112: to max it out
Tinybox#9112: I probably do tbh
Tinybox#9112: I wonder though
Tinybox#9112: if the HP cooler will perform better than a TX3 |
Tinybox#9112: Because, it's fins are more dense
Tinybox#9112: Anyway the Zalman guy, don't think he'll respond
Tinybox#9112: since his listing is for 12 bucks
Tinybox#9112: and I offered 5
Tinybox#9112: :GWlulurdMegaLul:
DarknessFalls229#2286: I think you can do some slight overclocking
DarknessFalls229#2286: But not too too far
Tinybox#9112: Yea I'm aiming for 4.8ish
DarknessFalls229#2286: Dunno aboot that
DarknessFalls229#2286: But im no expert at overclocking that gen
Alcyone#2233: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-8350K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-TR-2950X/3935vsm569025
Userbench got an update, now it is heavily biased towards single core performance
DarknessFalls229#2286: so its just more inaccurate?
wapted#6788: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/604052983751114970/unknown.png |
wapted#6788: its way more acurate
Alcyone#2233: 2019, year of the i3
Tinybox#9112: @Tech Helper
A guy is offering me a switch my rx 580 4gb for a GTX 1060 6Gb
Tinybox#9112: Go for it?
Tinybox#9112: @Alcyone maybe?
wapted#6788: you have to ask why
wapted#6788: is the 1060 borked
wapted#6788: is the 580 better? (it kinda is, but at the same time... 4gb... kinda isnt, hum)
TheFifthAce#4128: @Tinybox I mean, 580 will have drivers for longer but less vram, can prolly turn some settings up with the 1060 in most games because nvidia bias
Tinybox#9112: @wapted I know why he's a "friend" of mine
Tinybox#9112: he says his card is to long
Tinybox#9112: and he loves his case, and his AIO..
Tinybox#9112: so he wants to switch it out.
Tinybox#9112: under one condition |
Tinybox#9112: I pay shipping for both
Tinybox#9112: being 5-10 bucks
Tinybox#9112: y know big guy for looks
Alcyone#2233: I dont think it will be a game changing experience but if you want to spend the $20 for 2gb vram it's not a bad deal
Alcyone#2233: I'm sure the resale difference on the cards equals that at least
Deleted User#0000: 580 8gb is worth it over the 1060
Deleted User#0000: 580 4gb isn't really worth it over a 1060 unless there is a decent price difference
Deleted User#0000: although to be fair to take advantage of the 4gb of vram the power of the card is going to be a limiting factor anyway
Tinybox#9112: @Deleted User
It's probably gonna cost me 20 euros in shipping
JustinXenyx#8854: I wouldn't do it @Tinybox
JustinXenyx#8854: those 20 euros are better invested somewhere else
Tinybox#9112: Alright then
Tinybox#9112: I found a seemingly lightly used external hdd @JustinXenyx
Gonna take out the HDD (confirmed it's sata) |
Tinybox#9112: Forming le final plan now
Tinybox#9112: Gonna buy the hp cooler
Tinybox#9112: It looks decently beefy.
Tinybox#9112: Maybe will cool better than the tx3, and it's 5 bucks
Tinybox#9112: I won't bother talking down
DarknessFalls229#2286: One buck, take it or leave it
Deleted User#0000: I need help
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/604292897520615444/image0.jpg
Deleted User#0000: Green pixels are all over my screen
DarknessFalls229#2286: Just turn your screen off
DarknessFalls229#2286: No, but looks like graphics are corrupted, if youre using integrated graphics try to reseat ram. If you use dedicated graphics reseat you gpu, use DDU and reinstall drivers
MythologicalZ#3752: Check your cable too
DarknessFalls229#2286: ^
MythologicalZ#3752: Might be on it's way out
DarknessFalls229#2286: Was just about to say that |
Deleted User#0000: @DarknessFalls229 What do you mean?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Which part do you not understand?
DarknessFalls229#2286: First off, just redo you cable
DarknessFalls229#2286: Jiggle it around a little so its seated properly
Deleted User#0000: Ok
Deleted User#0000: These ones
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/604295670173532170/image1.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/604295670958129182/image0.jpg
Deleted User#0000: I’m new to computers sorry about this
Deleted User#0000: @DarknessFalls229
DarknessFalls229#2286: The cable in the second photo, reseat that one
DarknessFalls229#2286: Sorry im having lunch so im a bit unresponsive
Deleted User#0000: Like just pull it out and put it back in
Deleted User#0000: @DarknessFalls229
DarknessFalls229#2286: Yup, wiggle it around a little
DarknessFalls229#2286: Maybe i shouldn't do tech help when im on vacation :d |
XSpaTanx117X#0117: Uhhhh, that can't be real https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/604333499524317195/Screenshot_20190726-112257.png
MythologicalZ#3752: ?
MythologicalZ#3752: Thats pretty average
MythologicalZ#3752: And still a pretty shitty price for the performance a 1050ti gives
XSpaTanx117X#0117: Huh
XSpaTanx117X#0117: Guess I'm weird
Xbox 360 1953#2640: That's also a long one
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I think the shorter ones are better since they fit in prebuilts better
Bertie Kemp#1114: I'm using an X58 board, trying to fill it with 2 types of ram, 4 dimms of samsung ddr3, 2 dimms of corsair ddr3, In the operating system, in task manager, it says the ram speed is at 400mhz?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: They all the same speed?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: And what speed is it?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: @Bertie Kemp
Bertie Kemp#1114: I cant tell what each dimm is at, I know that they're all at least 1333mhz, but task manager says 20gb, unknown and then 400mhz
DarknessFalls229#2286: Try using CPU-Z, it says accurately what your ram speeds are and in how many channels its running @Bertie Kemp
Tinybox#9112: :GWbowsuBlobThinkOwO: |
Tinybox#9112: I was wondering um
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/604404675781066752/IMG_20190726_220806.jpg
Tinybox#9112: I noticed the ram on the family Pc is suddenly running in single channel, after the memory upgrade
Tinybox#9112: Maybe I need to have the same sticks in the yellow and black slot
Tinybox#9112: Ill try that
Tinybox#9112: Alright solved
Tinybox#9112: Had to change memory position
Tinybox#9112: Since I got different sticks
JustinXenyx#8854: ain't it usually XyXy?
JustinXenyx#8854: X = Channel 1, y = Channel 2
BigPierogi#3368: isnt it yXyX on asus though
JustinXenyx#8854: That too @BigPierogi
JustinXenyx#8854: but he did XXyy, which is SUPER uncommon
Deleted User#0000: @DarknessFalls229 So I wiggled the cord and it hasn't changed
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/547686092875366410/604279115549507614/image0.jpg |
How do I fix this the green dots
LaeMat#0420: what graphics card?
Deinsti#5907: @Deleted User Do you have a second monitor or tv to hook the PC up to?
Deleted User#0000: No I don't
Deinsti#5907: Hmmm
Deinsti#5907: Spare cable?
Deleted User#0000: I can look around for one but at the moment no
HappySlappyFace#0441: For me that looks like gpu
HappySlappyFace#0441: But id try with another output
Deleted User#0000: So put the cord in the other slots that look like it ok
Deleted User#0000: I feel like a fuckin boomer rn I know jackshit about computers
HappySlappyFace#0441: :OmegaxD:
Deleted User#0000: :Xdxdxd:
Deleted User#0000: @HappySlappyFace Still the same mate
Deleted User#0000: @Deinsti I changed the ports but it’s still the same |
HappySlappyFace#0441: No
HappySlappyFace#0441: Another output aka not the same gpu
Deleted User#0000: Let me send a photo mate
HappySlappyFace#0441: Say a tv tuner or something
Deleted User#0000: TV tuner let me try and find one
Deleted User#0000: @HappySlappyFace Nah mate didn’t work
HappySlappyFace#0441: no differencE?
Deleted User#0000: Well I tried using a TV tuner no difference so I tried a HDMI cord no difference
HappySlappyFace#0441: with hdmi cord
HappySlappyFace#0441: the green still exists?
Deleted User#0000: Yes
HappySlappyFace#0441: what about nothing plugged in
Deleted User#0000: What do you mean
Deleted User#0000: My computers a desktop so that wouldn’t work
HappySlappyFace#0441: what? |
HappySlappyFace#0441: if you unplug the hdmi
HappySlappyFace#0441: for the second the monitor stays on
HappySlappyFace#0441: do u see the green
Deleted User#0000: Let me see
HappySlappyFace#0441: like in the no signal screen
Deleted User#0000: No green
Deleted User#0000: Is that good
HappySlappyFace#0441: yes
HappySlappyFace#0441: if nothing is plugged in yes
HappySlappyFace#0441: but doesnt mean its perfectly fine
Deleted User#0000: Ok
HappySlappyFace#0441: so you plugged in ur tv tuner to the monitor right
HappySlappyFace#0441: viahdmi
HappySlappyFace#0441: and that still had green?
Deleted User#0000: Let me try again |
Deleted User#0000: What is that word “viahdmi”
HappySlappyFace#0441: via hdmi
Deleted User#0000: I used the HDMI cable yeah and green was still there
HappySlappyFace#0441: try another cable
HappySlappyFace#0441: then i can tell you what to do next
Deleted User#0000: Ok
Deleted User#0000: @HappySlappyFace Did it nothing changed
neps#8085: Then its the gpu
neps#8085: Your gpu maybe is artifacting
HappySlappyFace#0441: He said he tried with another output @neps
HappySlappyFace#0441: So far from my understanding the problem is ur monitor @Deleted User
HappySlappyFace#0441: You tried with another cable
You tried another output from another
HappySlappyFace#0441: Soo
HappySlappyFace#0441: I guess its the monitor |
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