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Alright it's safe..? Ill ask for a pic once we come to an agreement. Tinybox#9112: @MythologicalZ Ill be picking up the mobo directly at another bois house. MythologicalZ#3752: Aight Tinybox#9112: Don't know why I'm so unsure...even though I shipped my X58 stuff, with ram and all, in a box filled with shreddered news papers. -guy said it worked. Anyway again thanks a lot for the help. Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx Btw the reason that I'm picking up the stuff like that is because guy with the combo with everything together randomly raised the price on me :FeelsBadMan: Guy with the i5 6500...sold it, because someone offered higher anyway. So there will be an i5 3570k shipped to me. (for 30 bucks with shipping) And possibly an RX 480 if I choose it over the R9 390. (50-70) And that board we talked about Tinybox#9112: For the ram ill be getting some no name ram, 8GB (4x2) Tinybox#9112: heyy would you guys take an i7 2600 over an i5 3570k? JustinXenyx#8854: Probably JustinXenyx#8854: Some games are pretty core heavy now and 4 cores aren't really cutting it anymore
Tinybox#9112: Alright...because there is i7 2600 full PC right now for 55 bucks. With 10 gigs of ram, and all the other parts. -- NO HDD It would be cheaper than what I'd be getting. Tinybox#9112: Found the tower. Tinybox#9112: it seems to be a HP Tinybox#9112: HP Elite 7300 JustinXenyx#8854: skip it JustinXenyx#8854: knowing HP its probably some hella proprietary shit Tinybox#9112: judging by this test at least 🤔 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahB7ljwDhSs The i5 2500k at 5GHz outperforms a stock i7 2600 JustinXenyx#8854: oh wait no JustinXenyx#8854: apparently it isn't proprietary shite https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/598258945596981261/5203fafe-f80f-51b0-b619-6b4a86277450_large.png Tinybox#9112: I just took this one here, because its most recent
Tinybox#9112: I think ill pick up both tbh Tinybox#9112: I'm building 2 PCs anyway. Deleted User#0000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLNk0NNQQ8s SuSSudio#2688: Update to my last discussion "RAM not working on buyer". So the RAM has been received, i quickly went testing the RAM in my rig, unfortunately the RAM looks dead. no POST or beep either. I cant believe it. GoldenSky#4649: And without the RAM inserted it works? TheFifthAce#4128: I might just be cynical TheFifthAce#4128: but did you save serial numbers to verify its the same stick TheFifthAce#4128: because if he has the same type stick, and claims yours is the one that doesnt work, how do you know he didn't do a bamboozle and replace his dead stick for free SuSSudio#2688: it doesn't show any display without RAM SuSSudio#2688: but the CPU did heat up SuSSudio#2688: Yes it is the same stick
GoldenSky#4649: Is that the only stick of RAM you have? SuSSudio#2688: Yes it is the only stick GoldenSky#4649: And if you remove it, do you get any beeps? SuSSudio#2688: nope, probably my post speaker broke GoldenSky#4649: Unlikely unless it's physically damaged GoldenSky#4649: Sounds like your issue might not be RAM related GoldenSky#4649: Especially if you don't get any beeps with / without RAM SuSSudio#2688: But i swear it worked the last time i used the PC SuSSudio#2688: that was like june 26 GoldenSky#4649: If you have any other PC or a friends PC to test that stick of RAM in, do it SuSSudio#2688: shortly i took out the RAM and put it up for sale SuSSudio#2688: Yeah i'll find leftover modules TheGeekster#8508: sounds like it died in transit, happens now and then Tinybox#9112: how much of a cost difference would there have to be for you to get an r9 290 4gb over an r9 390 8gb Tinybox#9112: ?
JustinXenyx#8854: 20-25€ depending on the model DarknessFalls229#2286: ^ Tinybox#9112: alright btq Tinybox#9112: "btw Tinybox#9112: Is a rig with an i5 4590s 8GB RAM 500GB HDD WINDOWS 10 blabla. A HP rig with no properitery stuff it seems motherboard wise at least. All for 70 bucks inclusive shipping A good deal? Tinybox#9112: (for my siblings rig) JustinXenyx#8854: sounds fine to me DarknessFalls229#2286: sounds better than the 2600 machine i think
Tinybox#9112: Alrightyyy, I need to get an R9 290 for 40 bucks or so now. Then a new PSU. then my brothers rig should be aight. Tinybox#9112: My rig would be an i5 3570k 8gb of ram as well, storage the same prob gonna add an SSD, With an R9 390 would total up to 140 Deleted User#0000: just couldnt say no https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/598582488071143425/JPEG_20190710_193250.jpg Tinybox#9112: OK SO. @Tech Helper How much would an i5 3570k rig consume approximately? On stock with an R9 390. Alcyone#2233: ~400-450w depending on gpu and cpu oc Alcyone#2233: I used to have a 390x and it would peak over 300w on its own at +50% power limit Tinybox#9112: I'd leave the gpu on stock and oc the 3570k as far as it will to. Alcyone#2233: probably around 400w then Alcyone#2233: best thing for hawaii gpus is undervolt at max power limit Tinybox#9112: Although then..How much do you think an i5 4460 + rx 570 would eat?
Alcyone#2233: Like most of amds high end cards Alcyone#2233: ~250w-300w for that combo Tinybox#9112: Alright. @Alcyone How much extra would you pay for an rx 480 Alcyone#2233: over a 570? about $20-30 Tinybox#9112: Over a 390 JustinXenyx#8854: probs 10-20 Tinybox#9112: Alright so I got a limit of 720w for both PCs, think an undervolt at settings close to stock will do the job to reduce power consumption to this level? JustinXenyx#8854: you'd be at around 700w stock with both rigs tbh JustinXenyx#8854: but the 390 is overvolted to shit from factory Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx OK I know im prob asking A LOT. An R9 390 is faster than an RX 570 4gb While a 290 is slower than an RX 570 4gb Tinybox#9112: Correct?
JustinXenyx#8854: Eh JustinXenyx#8854: the 390 and 290 are basically the same card, the 390 is just slightly higher clocked and usually comes with double the VRAM Alcyone#2233: 290 and 390 are almost identical aside from 390 having 8gb vram and at a faster speed, 6000 effective vs 5000 Alcyone#2233: only reason the 390 is faster is its stock voltage is 1.25v so it can run higher default clocks stable. with an afterburner tune they should be about on par as far as the core goes Alcyone#2233: I beat all my strix 390x clocks and benchmark scores with a 290x lightning Tinybox#9112: So, The R9 390 and 290 are basically identical. Leading the more efficient RX 570 to LEAP forward, in games that don't eat more than 4 gigs of vram. Alcyone#2233: rx 570 or 580 will be much more manageable in a case without massive airflow Alcyone#2233: hawaii cards are hothothot and you need to pump that air out of the case or they just recirculate warm air and will run at 90c Tinybox#9112: Here's a lil question Does the 4 extra gb of vram rlly help the 390? Alcyone#2233: in some games at 1440p+ for sure. Lady Mipha#0611: @Deleted User :Bruhh: that’s a lot of power supplies Tinybox#9112: @Alcyone What about 1080p?
Alcyone#2233: probably not as much. I sold mine in 2017 though so I am unsure about the latest stuff Alcyone#2233: fallout 4 max settings didnt go over 4gb for me at 2560x1440 Alcyone#2233: was around 3.5 max Alcyone#2233: the cards were struggling for 60fps with those settings though, so it may not be an issue at all when configured for good fps Tinybox#9112: So I can score an R9 390 60 each (60 only in a combo 65 if not) But I can get an RX 470 4gb for 35-40 (8gb= 55) An RX 480/580 4GB is 75. An 8GB For 80-85. ---Which one would ya get. (My final question, I think) @Tech Helper TheGeekster#8508: probably the 580 8gb, it's what ever your budget can do Alcyone#2233: depends on card models I suppose. I'd get the best I could afford that isnt a blower Tinybox#9112: What if they are all NITRO + TheGeekster#8508: *I'd get the best I could afford* Tinybox#9112: From a value and power stand point 🤔
JustinXenyx#8854: Considering i know you're building 2 rigs at a time, wouldn't it be way easier to grab 2 390's? It would be slightly harder on your budget, but you could be moving along way quicker JustinXenyx#8854: You could probably also score him down to 50 per card if he has them listed long enough JustinXenyx#8854: Unless you're able to get 2 470 4GB cards for 80, that would be cheaper and more power efficient Tinybox#9112: I can get 1 RX 470 4GB and then one 8GB, that would total up to 90-95. JustinXenyx#8854: thats 5-10€ cheaper than going with the 390's and a lot more power/heat friendly Tinybox#9112: actually it's 25-30 bucks cheaper in that case. JustinXenyx#8854: if you buy them for 60 per card* Tinybox#9112: I already talked them down Tinybox#9112: from 85 down to 60, I don't think he'll budge any harder than that JustinXenyx#8854: yikes, he was already pretty over priced Tinybox#9112: yep Tinybox#9112: Tbh I'm strongly considering completetly ignoring the R9 390s simply because of that power consumption.., because I'd need to buy a used PSU..(ill make sure it wasn't used strongly and is still quite good). Plus I calculated just now the two rigs with the R9 390s would cost 4.51 euros extra to the bill per month, if me and my brother play on it every day Thursday-Sunday 6 hours. Tinybox#9112: I'd yeet an RX 470 for my bro, over here and get an RX 480 8GB for myself. Tinybox#9112: Because he was a dick, when we were buying games of course 😄 Tinybox#9112: Oh btw do you know when the lower end navi cards are gonna come? @JustinXenyx
JustinXenyx#8854: AMD didn't say anything about low end navi yet JustinXenyx#8854: sure it'll come, but they haven't said anything about specs, prices, release dates etc Bogi76#3090: hmm should i get RX 580 8GB.... Rysing Dragoon#5628: Fellas Rysing Dragoon#5628: What's a good 240gb SSD for under $30? SuSSudio#2688: The fucking RAM. worked. last method i used, rubbing the contacts with a tissue SuSSudio#2688: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/598713243296333856/IMG_20190711_100715.jpg SuSSudio#2688: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/598713620410531850/IMG_20190711_095558.jpg Lady Mipha#0611: oof SuSSudio#2688: Alright now i can confirm that my RAM **Still works fine** SuSSudio#2688: Finna cop an LGA 1156 board + i3 530 or Xeon X3430 so i can replicate the issue the buyer faced TheFifthAce#4128: @Rysing Dragoon x3 sunbow Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx Ya said you'd take an RX 580 4GB over an R9 390, I just managed to get an RX 580 down to 70. Should I go for that? And then yeet an RX 470 4gb for my sibling, totalling to 110, so 10 less than the two r9 390s.
TheGeekster#8508: Look at bench marks, compare the two MythologicalZ#3752: 580 will run on a way worse PSU and doesn't run nearly as hot MythologicalZ#3752: So I agree with justin there Tinybox#9112: Alright. Tinybox#9112: @MythologicalZ Think I can run an RX 470 on Molex? MythologicalZ#3752: What PSU? Tinybox#9112: ALRIGHT so there is a cheap HP I5 4590 pc.. But the motherboard is prop. So I can't use another PSU than what's in it. Tinybox#9112: "HP Elitedesk 700 G1 MT" MythologicalZ#3752: It doesn't even have molex MythologicalZ#3752: And its 240w MythologicalZ#3752: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/598821098443898880/hp-elitedesk-700-705-g1-g2-g3-small-form-factor-sff-power-supply-psu-electgen-1701-08-electgen18.png MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.lelong.com.my/hp-elitedesk-700-705-g1-g2-g3-small-form-factor-sff-power-supply-psu-electgen-209227072-2019-10-Sale-P.htm MythologicalZ#3752: + its a SFF meme
navibu#8748: Anyone have the problem with xbox overlay app? navibu#8748: Before that i play league with 150+ fps navibu#8748: But after that the fps is nearly the monitor's refresh rate navibu#8748: And the game stutter Alcyone#2233: I got a free pc that had an asus dcii gtx 560 running off molex and it was alive for years. But I'm not so sure about that psu Tinybox#9112: RTX 2080Ti + R5 2600 over a more balanced config? Ryzen 2700 + RTX 2080 ---for le gamer only TheGeekster#8508: the 2080ti would mean you wouldn't have to upgrade the gpu for a while, but you'd have to consider upgrading the cpu later down the line maybe, and vice versa for the other way around Tinybox#9112: oops Tinybox#9112: I mean't Ryzen 2700 + RTX 2080 @TheGeekster Tinybox#9112: my bad JustinXenyx#8854: how about Ryzen 3600 + 2080 Ti? Tinybox#9112: Can't :/ TheGeekster#8508: don't... quite get what ya askin
Tinybox#9112: Yeaa, Ryzen 2700 + RTX 2080 over RTX 2080Ti + R5 2600. That's the question d: JustinXenyx#8854: whats the budget you're shooting for? i quickly wanna check something @Tinybox Alcyone#2233: used 1080ti and 2600 +beer TheGeekster#8508: ^^^ Tinybox#9112: le 1400, d: Guy only cares about perfomance nothing else. Alcyone#2233: or 2070 super instead of the 2080, pretty close performance for $200-300 less TheGeekster#8508: then tell him to get a 3700x and a 2080ti... if this guy genuinely wants to burn that much money let him Tinybox#9112: For germany right now, Tinybox#9112: Can't do a full PC with an RTX 2080TI, with a CPU over 130. Tinybox#9112: For 1400 TheGeekster#8508: or a prebuilt would probably make more sense, if he's asking about components he's clearly not looking them up, benchmarks, etc, he's not putting the effort in 🤔 JustinXenyx#8854: 1400€ or USD? Tinybox#9112: 1400 euro
JustinXenyx#8854: thats EVEN BETTER :Hahahahaha: Alcyone#2233: 2070 super, 3600x, $300 in useless rgb Tinybox#9112: 🆗 Alcyone#2233: dont forget the case with a solid front panel, wouldnt want any air getting in Tinybox#9112: https://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-1250721 Tinybox#9112: :GWlulurdMegaLul: TheGeekster#8508: RGB allows you to cool components more because you're using electricity to produce light outside of the components thus allowing more airflow around the light to take away the heat using less power. TheGeekster#8508: "Wishlist is not available or not publicly available." Tinybox#9112: my bad Tinybox#9112: https://geizhals.de/?cat=WL-1250721 Alcyone#2233: I set my rgb to red and blast nickelback for the best performance Tinybox#9112: RGB can play music :GWczeWhat: give me one that can use it's rays to play music JustinXenyx#8854: no, just no @Tinybox Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx yea I know :GWlulurdMegaLul:
I think an RTX 2080 + R5 3600 would be better. Alcyone#2233: fun fact: the first nickelback concert was only 5c a ticket, everyone asked for their nickel back. hence the bands name Tinybox#9112: And better parts all around TheGeekster#8508: I'd honestly pull back on the GPU and upgrade the SSD to nvme, the motherboard is... *eh* TheGeekster#8508: the gpu is just... daft at this price point, to actually use it 100% you'd need to pump a lot more money into a system JustinXenyx#8854: just a quick q, when will your friend buy the system? @Tinybox Alcyone#2233: 1000 eur gpu, 30 quid psu :Xdxdxd: Tinybox#9112: apparently in a month or so. JustinXenyx#8854: because in the best case when your friend will buy the system there would be custom models of the 5700XT Tinybox#9112: uhh hes anti radeon :GWmemetownKappaChino: Alcyone#2233: let him eat cake TheGeekster#8508: Tell him to stop asking for advice and build it himself? JustinXenyx#8854: i never get why people think like that Tinybox#9112: No worries ill order fresh cake for him :Oof: TheGeekster#8508: Because people just like to jump on hype train after hype train for *the next big thing*
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx I don't know either. Tinybox#9112: he says "the new navi series was a huge dissapointment to me, I will not buy it" TheGeekster#8508: "the new navi series was a huge dissapointment to some youtubers that I watch" JustinXenyx#8854: as if the 2070S and 2060S were that much better TheGeekster#8508: let's be honest JustinXenyx#8854: Navi is killing it for the cash, we just need custom cards Tinybox#9112: I like NAVI Too, I'm looking at the non XT one though. JustinXenyx#8854: the 5700 has a clock limit apparently and until we can know for sure if its unlockable or not i won't really recommend it JustinXenyx#8854: unless it fits the budget and oc isn't needed/an option TheGeekster#8508: I think they said it's locked OC from factory? :JeffreyIsThinking: but you can OC as a consumer? be interesting to get one anyway Tinybox#9112: Btw isn't the "Super Flower Golden Green Pro 650W" a good PSU? It landed on Tier 2 if I remember, on the last tomshardware PSU list or so @Alcyone JustinXenyx#8854: its a decent psu, ye Alcyone#2233: @JustinXenyx
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and overclocking isn't the greatest idea seeing as my PC already has issues with crashing (probably a bricked mobo or some other part) and my CPU is only connected using a loose pin I put into the socket I think it's time for a new Motherboard, Ideally, it should be using the x570 Chipset (the newest one and the best one for high-end CPUs) and shouldn't cost more than 350€ (the absolute max I can save up for a motherboard in less than a year) the Fan, on the other hand, is basically completely unimportant (any fan that doesn't cost more than 30€ should be fine) I hope some of you can help me with this issue (I would really appreciate it)
- Prec1sioN / Leonard MythologicalZ#3752: Wall of text meme Alcyone#2233: uncorked 5700xt a beast https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/598925679035416576/unknown.png MythologicalZ#3752: If you want value,the X570 Tuf is a good starting point MythologicalZ#3752: Which is wack given Assus track record Tinybox#9112: prime b350 and b450 series.. makes me kinda sad :FeelsBadMan: Alcyone#2233: the x570 tuf is using the maximus XI z390 vrm JustinXenyx#8854: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/qFh9fH @Tinybox This is a rough draft i have right now, its 1275€ leaving enough for a custom 5700XT or a 2070S once those sell here in germany JustinXenyx#8854: the TCSunBow X3 sounds hella sketch at first, but its a pretty decent low-budget SSD (and was the cheapest 1TB that didn't suck Phison S11) TheGeekster#8508: Holy shit, they really were conservative with the 5700XT weren't they? can't wait to see the after market coolers JustinXenyx#8854: yeah, AM cards are gonna fucking nail it @TheGeekster MythologicalZ#3752: Stock is conservative MythologicalZ#3752: Once you mess with it enough MythologicalZ#3752: Card flys
TheGeekster#8508: Aye, they really missed the mark with the cooler tho from what I've seen 😦 MythologicalZ#3752: Steal one off a dead R9 card :OmegaxD: MythologicalZ#3752: https://youtu.be/Ud8Bco0dk6Q MythologicalZ#3752: Or mod the the cooler Alcyone#2233: id just wait for aib cards so it has proper vrm cooling, or use an accelero etc. it has the same 58x58 mount as almost all recent nvidia cards MythologicalZ#3752: August isn't far off Alcyone#2233: spacer mod +paste on the blower seems to work pretty good though MythologicalZ#3752: Supposedly launching then Prec1sioN#8040: Are there any cheaper mobos than the TUF x570 gaming-plus? Prec1sioN#8040: it costs almost 300 euro Alcyone#2233: msi already showed the 5700xt ~~Armor MK2~~ Mech 2 Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/598928248650334208/msi-mech-100757980-large.png MythologicalZ#3752: Gigabyte Gaming X isn't a bad shout @Prec1sioN TheGeekster#8508: depending on the compute perf for rendering, i might finally consider radeon cards, nvidia really try and stiff you with drivers when you use 3D things that aren't games Alcyone#2233: prime-p uses the same vrm as tuf but has no wifi and less bling
MythologicalZ#3752: https://youtu.be/bqHd_tFqvj0 MythologicalZ#3752: Theres a mega summary MythologicalZ#3752: Time stamps are pinned Alcyone#2233: ahh a buldzoid vid, 1hr long for 15 minutes of info MythologicalZ#3752: Basically MythologicalZ#3752: And rants about the Formula and some other crap Alcyone#2233: I'm hoping working with GN will help him with scripting and editing TheGeekster#8508: 😩 oh god as long as he doesn't have GN's... enthusiastic voice MythologicalZ#3752: He's got a strange accent MythologicalZ#3752: I find him alright to listen to if you have the time TheGeekster#8508: Aye, his content is good but his voice can make the most exciting thing seem dull, it's very monotone, still watch some of hids vids tho Prec1sioN#8040: I just noticed that it would be cheaper to get an x470 board instead of an x570 board TheGeekster#8508: yep probably would be, x470 boards are older and don't have the latest features Alcyone#2233: if it doesnt have bios flashback you will need a 1st or 2nd gen zen chip to update bios before runnin r3k on 400 chipsets TheGeekster#8508: most compatible with the ryzen 3k too
Prec1sioN#8040: well I have a zen 1 Ryzen 5 1500x but it has a missing pin Prec1sioN#8040: should still work Alcyone#2233: if it posts its good enough Prec1sioN#8040: I have been using this CPU with a missing pin for 3 years Alcyone#2233: msi and asus have boards that can flash with no cpu as well Prec1sioN#8040: good to know TheGeekster#8508: an x570 board WILL NOT work with a Ryzen 1500X TheGeekster#8508: new motherboards aren't working with older cpu's afaik due to major changes @Prec1sioN JustinXenyx#8854: no, its just left to the manufacturers to support 1st gen ryzen afaik TheGeekster#8508: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/597436367055880192/2019-05-30-image-23.png TheGeekster#8508: Nope, 1000 series isn't supported at all on X570, it's up to manufactures if x370 & b350 can support 3000 Alcyone#2233: amd not like intel, there is no official support but mfgs can add it. giga a320s support 3000 cpus TheGeekster#8508: aye but it's the other way around 🤔 i imagine it's harder to force backwards compatibility of like pcie4 vs older cpu's that don't have that
MythologicalZ#3752: There is pcie 4.0 on x470 MythologicalZ#3752: Ik the Taichi and Crosshair have it TheGeekster#8508: aye, but that probably took a lot of effort to try and fit in backwards compatibilty, if they didn't have to, they could probably save a lot of time & effort Alcyone#2233: I was gonna say there is a possibility for pcie 4 on 400 boards and 500 chipset works with 3.0 gpus just fine. earlier zen on x570/b550 could maybe be a thing TheGeekster#8508: maybe, i just think they want to try and reduce the effort and R&D that has to go in to backwards compat TheGeekster#8508: that does take away the whole "yes AM4 is the socket we're staying on" if it suddenly becomes about the chipset tho Alcyone#2233: better to be locked out of going backwards than forwards at least. you can still grab an x470/b450 and run the 3k later with no board change. Looking at you Intel. TheGeekster#8508: aye, especially when it's artificial, where there's no *new* features JustinXenyx#8854: With Intel the chinese figured out how to run 9th gen chips on H110 atleast lol Alcyone#2233: 1151 has 2 revisions. rumored 10th gen will be on new 1159 socket even though its the same 14nm lake cores Alcyone#2233: meanwhile am4 goes from 28nm to 7nm Deleted User#0000: Is this the right position for a fan and cooler ? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/598957452142182547/JPEG_20190711_202243.jpg JustinXenyx#8854: doesn't look off Deleted User#0000: Just wanted to make sure Jam#0384: what the fuck is this case
Jam#0384: some sorta dell oem nightmare TheGTGeek#4898: I need help here Lady Mipha#0611: What seems to be the problem JustinXenyx#8854: I think you could start a little nicer and more detailed than that, but what do you need help with, exactly? TheGTGeek#4898: I upgraded the RAM in my pc this morning to 8gb, win 10 only registers 3.97gb of it TheGTGeek#4898: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/599113730462318615/JPEG_20190712_174357.jpg JustinXenyx#8854: Are you running 32bit or 64Bit windows? TheGTGeek#4898: 64 bit JustinXenyx#8854: 64Bit, do you run any extra graphics that are not in your APU? JustinXenyx#8854: Because maybe the APU's graphics unit is just pulling all the extra memory TheGTGeek#4898: I have a dedicated graphics card in my system JustinXenyx#8854: Still, maybe you can take a quick look in the BIOS and see if anything related to graphics memory has changed there? TheGTGeek#4898: Give me a moment TheGTGeek#4898: Where should I look? JustinXenyx#8854: Uhm, for my MSI board on an A8 6600k it was where the overclocking settings were located
TheGTGeek#4898: Nothing there, only to overclock my memory JustinXenyx#8854: Hmm, just look around then, you'll find it eventually TheGTGeek#4898: Still can't find anything in my bios GoldenSky#4649: What do you see in your BIOS? TheGTGeek#4898: If it makes anything easier, I am using an ASRock FM2A55-DGS N2.0 Lady Mipha#0611: Could be that hardware reserved memory has changed @TheGTGeek Lady Mipha#0611: Which would require a bios reset TheGTGeek#4898: I've reset the bios a few times TheGTGeek#4898: Hasn't done anything TheGTGeek#4898: oddly enough though, whenever i removed my old stick of ram, it recognises a full 4 gb of ram boog#9487: Good deal? (I already have a i7 4770 so that’s why I’m going 1150) https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F143311056206 boog#9487: I’m using a i7 3770 right now and a dell motherboard the main reason I want to upgrade is because I my cooler I have on there is terrible as it is a stock one and is proprietary and I have a i7 4770 I found in the dump TheFifthAce#4128: huh TheFifthAce#4128: 50$ doesnt seem that awful TheFifthAce#4128: can probably find one for cheaper though
Jamie.Cullen#8363: https://www.ebay.ie/itm/FSP-NB-90-Universal-Notebook-Adapter-Laptop-Charger-90W-19V/323845642524?hash=item4b66b4591c:g:UAEAAOSw~flcFC8F Jamie.Cullen#8363: Thoughts on this? Have tons of laptops and need testing Jamie.Cullen#8363: @Tech Helper TheGeekster#8508: Should work, but make sure it has adjustable voltage and about a million tips boog#9487: @TheFifthAce alright had to help someone move sorry for the late reply boog#9487: I’ll look for a cheaper one TheFifthAce#4128: @MythologicalZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrIGrUEnoVk&feature=youtu.be TheFifthAce#4128: timmy joe pretty gay TheFifthAce#4128: but :dabblob: Jam#0384: Timmy Joe is annoying and a doxer SussyBalls#4615: he looks like that soyboy who bragged on twitter about a drinkable soylent chai latte https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/599318412153454633/unknown.png SussyBalls#4615: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/599318434626535424/z52xfol6fv931.png Tinybox#9112: I feel like pulling the trigger on this R9 390 8gb for 60 bucks, because I won't be able to get the RX 580 4gb for 10 bucks more after quick calculations. Tinybox#9112: Alright... here's the plan with hopefully some luck
Z68 Board: (ALREADY BOUGHT=25 euro, sells for: 55-65) CPU (i5 3570k guy won't budge any lower it seems)= 30 euro PSU (I hope I can pickup one of em decent be quiets that pop up, from time to time for cheap)= 10-15 euro. CASE: FREE RAM: 8GB 5 euro (prob generic ram plus I got a 2gb stick around) GPU: (R9 390 8GB or RX 580 4gb 60-70 Euro) Storage: (I got a 750GB HDD at home, but let's just say 10 bucks for an SSD and a 750-1000GB HDD +60-120gb SSD depends) Tinybox#9112: (60 euro with shipping for the r9 390) russ_the_b#5525: yeah so i have this very weird problem with my display from what i tested the monitor is fine and gpu is fine russ_the_b#5525: i have a hp compaq 6300 with an i3 3220 and a gtx 750 unfortunately my monitor is old so i have to use an adaptor from dvi to vga russ_the_b#5525: for some weird reason whenever power is cut (like pc is already shut down but still plugged to the wall ) when i go to power it up again after power is back TheFifthAce#4128: what russ_the_b#5525: i hear a beep and the monitor takes time till it boots TheFifthAce#4128: yes TheFifthAce#4128: thats normal for some monitors
TheFifthAce#4128: my monitor does that russ_the_b#5525: and there is green and purple lines russ_the_b#5525: and res is fucked TheFifthAce#4128: that is less normal TheFifthAce#4128: are drivers installed and updated russ_the_b#5525: yes TheFifthAce#4128: wait you said vga monitor russ_the_b#5525: yes TheFifthAce#4128: ok thats your issue russ_the_b#5525: but if i reboot it works TheFifthAce#4128: :ThonkOrMiss: TheFifthAce#4128: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm TheFifthAce#4128: tell windows to never sleep! russ_the_b#5525: Dude the problem isnt when windows is asleep russ_the_b#5525: its when it loses power from the wall
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Does the power go out? Xbox 360 1953#2640: Like, regularly russ_the_b#5525: not regularly russ_the_b#5525: but because its summer then its more often russ_the_b#5525: like my monitor is 1600x900 when the problem happens it goes to 1024x748 russ_the_b#5525: and horizontal green and purple lines appear russ_the_b#5525: if i reboot after that it works russ_the_b#5525: no beep no lines no fucked res Deleted User#0000: Ok so my desktop has issues where my nvidia drivers won't install so im stuck with windows basic drivers Deleted User#0000: is says something like configuration data base corrupted Deleted User#0000: and i've tried reinstalling windows but it errors MythologicalZ#3752: @TheFifthAce yeah I saw it on tomshw too TheGeekster#8508: @russ_the_b It's a bit late but when a monitor is working properly, it talks to the computer to tell it what resolutions it supports, I'd suggest turning the computer off, unplug the monitor from vga & power, wait a bit, plug it back in, then reboot? russ_the_b#5525: nonono it always goes back to normal after a reboot but when it was acting up i noticed something in the drivers russ_the_b#5525: it was detecting the card i think because the driver said microsoft windows display
russ_the_b#5525: 1 hz refresh rate and some other stuff russ_the_b#5525: i rebooted and it worked russ_the_b#5525: it detects the card and everything is fine russ_the_b#5525: but this happens everytime wall power is unplugged from the pc TheGeekster#8508: awh fuck sorry i missed your last message where you said you fixed it, and yeah it's because the monitor and the computer lose communication TheGeekster#8508: there's not really a way of fixing it, it'll be an issue between the monitor, dvi to vga adapter and gpu that'll cause it russ_the_b#5525: i would assume its the adapter because before i bought my pc it worked fine on a dvi monitor Deleted User#0000: ive got a pc which turns on for about 40 seconds and then goes off?. Gives no display aswell Deleted User#0000: Also beeps twice but i think thats for no keyboard Tinybox#9112: ....Hmm.. Tinybox#9112: Motherboard maybe? Ram error? Deleted User#0000: gonna try swap the ram around Deleted User#0000: stil not working correctly Deleted User#0000: @Tinybox if the processor is the issue, would the board even boot up?
Tinybox#9112: I mean maybe...it depends on how badly it's damaged 🤔 JustinXenyx#8854: "would the boot even boot up" what Tinybox#9112: you know the usual conclusion for something like this is mobo broke Tinybox#9112: 🤔 Deleted User#0000: probably Deleted User#0000: because i got the processor out of a box of screws and razor blades but it doesnt look damaged idk russ_the_b#5525: contact pads on the cpu could have been scuffed which lead to borking it Bertie Kemp#1114: What would be the best CPU for my motherboard (m5a78l-m-usb3) would a fx-8350 be okay? Even tho the mobo only has a 4 pin cpu power? DarknessFalls229#2286: tbh i wouldnt try to get 8 cores on that board, You should move to 1155, get something like a i7 2600 Bertie Kemp#1114: I only have about £40 to upgrade with that board, so I was wondering what the best cpu for that board would be DarknessFalls229#2286: try to find a decent 6 core phenom and you should be good for a while Bertie Kemp#1114: What about fx? DarknessFalls229#2286: i say big no due to architecture DarknessFalls229#2286: 8 "cores", games arent always able to utilize those cores properly DarknessFalls229#2286: even windows sees it as 4 cores 8 threads
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah, because AMD's FX cores aren't considered proper cores JustinXenyx#8854: Its like they have the physical cores on them, but every 2 cores share resources making it essentially overkill hyperthreading Alcyone#2233: Every pair of cores shares a floating point unit. Floating point math is what games need, so they aren't great with those loads. It's like reverse hyperthreading 8 cores, 4 threads lol Bertie Kemp#1114: So is it not worth getting a fx 8 core then? Bertie Kemp#1114: At least not with the motherboard I have? I have a GTX 970 and dont wanna bottleneck it JustinXenyx#8854: you'll be bottlenecking it either way @Bertie Kemp JustinXenyx#8854: but i agree with @DarknessFalls229, your mobo's CPU power delivery is way to shit for a decent 6 core phenom or 8 core FX TheGeekster#8508: Yep, unfortunately it's going to be a save up and don't waste your money on it tbh, you won't see much benefits TheGeekster#8508: I went from an AMD phenom II X6 1055T to a i5-4590, and holy shit the i5 was a million times faster Deleted User#0000: so everyone is gonna ignore the fact that i have a issue with my pc? Alcyone#2233: maybe we dont know how to fix it JustinXenyx#8854: @Deleted User If we don't answer a question within 3-4 hours chances are 1. no one has seen the question 2. we don't know a solution to the question or 3. it got flooded over with other questions JustinXenyx#8854: Best bet if that happens is to just repost it after that time Xbox 360 1953#2640: are delta psus good? JustinXenyx#8854: they're usually decent @Xbox 360 1953
Xbox 360 1953#2640: alright Xbox 360 1953#2640: Is it usual for them to be priced at like 15 usd? DarknessFalls229#2286: 3200 watt priced at 15 dollars?!?!?! Xbox 360 1953#2640: wHat DarknessFalls229#2286: ||no but really, depends on what wattage|| JustinXenyx#8854: yeah, a lot of them are just taken right out of servers and/or computers and sold on, explaining the cheap price @Xbox 360 1953 Xbox 360 1953#2640: Thanks DarknessFalls229#2286: thats the reason some servers are pretty cheap, companies need to get rid of them and sell them en mass. but you lose some enthusiast features DarknessFalls229#2286: So for PSUs in THAT regard, good reliability, but probably lesser connectors Xbox 360 1953#2640: I've been looking for a psu for my secondary pc and I've found one with both sata and molex. also has a six pin which is enough for me DarknessFalls229#2286: if it has enough watts, sure Xbox 360 1953#2640: 460 Xbox 360 1953#2640: I don't see myself doing much with it though DarknessFalls229#2286: Then it ought to be more than enough Xbox 360 1953#2640: good
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I just want to not have an improper size psu in its case DarknessFalls229#2286: Nothing wrong with overkill Xbox 360 1953#2640: currently i have a tfx psu inside the pc because its the only psu i have with molex DarknessFalls229#2286: How do you have only one psu with molex? Pretty much ALL my psus have molex Xbox 360 1953#2640: i don't have many Xbox 360 1953#2640: i have like 4 or 5 Xbox 360 1953#2640: two of those are tfx, one is a dell 275w without molex Xbox 360 1953#2640: another one is a dell 300w but the 24pin is too short Xbox 360 1953#2640: and my last one is in my main pc, no molex XSpaTanx117X#0117: So um I think some of you might be interested in this TheGeekster#8508: ??? XSpaTanx117X#0117: I have a unknown graphics card in my pc XSpaTanx117X#0117: And it's connected with an unconventional method XSpaTanx117X#0117: And probably stupid TheFifthAce#4128: show
XSpaTanx117X#0117: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/599756878053900311/JPEG_20190713_201925.jpg XSpaTanx117X#0117: I need a new PSU apparently XSpaTanx117X#0117: Then I will be able to fix the other problems Xbox 360 1953#2640: 👀 i see that xbox there XSpaTanx117X#0117: Yup Xbox 360 1953#2640: that disc on top Xbox 360 1953#2640: should be in a case Lady Mipha#0611: That’s not a disc Lady Mipha#0611: It looks like a small jar Xbox 360 1953#2640: interesting TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpjrbHFv_dA TheFifthAce#4128: ngl TheFifthAce#4128: I want this Lady Mipha#0611: Me too Tinybox#9112: Actuallyyy.
Tinybox#9112: Would getting an RX 570 8/4GB be better than an R9 390 8GB? If the R9 390 is 10 bucks moar DarknessFalls229#2286: id say yes, mostly considering that the 570 uses much less power DarknessFalls229#2286: but for raw performance, id guess the r9 390 JustinXenyx#8854: the 570 is more power efficient and will get driver updates for way longer than the 390 Tinybox#9112: That's quite true, the RX 470/570 also still have warranty Tinybox#9112: from their respective vendors. Tinybox#9112: aaaa THE R9 390 IS SEXY AS FRICK. But I think ill try score a combo deal for one RX 570 4GB and one RX 580 4GB for 120 euros. Tinybox#9112: Although power consumption doesn't matter to me as much, simply because I have a quite clear cap for both rigs. But who knows driver updates might improve the RX 570 to a point where the R9 390 gets beaten by it @JustinXenyx Tinybox#9112: Plus I mean I could chance it, but I know for fact, finding a PSU for the R9 390 for 10 bucks won't be easy Tinybox#9112: the RX 570 and 580 cards only have a year of warranty left though DarknessFalls229#2286: Alright guys, what a good free antivirus fow win7, or do you reckon i dont need one. Also is it smart to flash mobo bios via windows? TheGeekster#8508: well, i'd say windows defender but that's about to stop Tinybox#9112: @DarknessFalls229 Avast Anti virus FREE still scores incredibly high (but it's annoying as fuck)
Kaspersky also doesn't do a bad job. Bitdefender still is epic. DarknessFalls229#2286: alright DarknessFalls229#2286: ill take a look at kaspersky Tinybox#9112: aight Tinybox#9112: @DarknessFalls229 On the mobo bios thing. Apparently it's straight up safer to do ***not within an OS*** DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, but my other options were like linux or dos DarknessFalls229#2286: so /shrug Tinybox#9112: meh, I think I'd take dos 🤔 Tinybox#9112: to flash it Tinybox#9112: Personally at least, DarknessFalls229#2286: wait i think i got freedos on my usb stick DarknessFalls229#2286: maybe i should just update bios and then move to windows 10 DarknessFalls229#2286: cause i think i borked up windows update
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx yo dude..should I buy a 9 year old professional display? It's IPS HNP zr24w for 15 bucks per piece? Tinybox#9112: @DarknessFalls229 oof Tinybox#9112: how'd y mess up? DarknessFalls229#2286: dunno DarknessFalls229#2286: but it had done most of the updates already anyway DarknessFalls229#2286: so its not like i dont have all the updates JustinXenyx#8854: i'd buy it, probably still beats a lot of cheaper 1080p monitors from today @Tinybox DarknessFalls229#2286: though 9 years is a lot of age for a monitor DarknessFalls229#2286: unless it has had low use TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3XXfrH/deepcool-cpu-cooler-neptwinv20 this would definitely be better but I don't know how I would install it on am4, it says am4 compatible but :Thonking: Tinybox#9112: Well my entire plan just got fucked up. CPU guy I was talking to, the next day:
All 7 listings on account gone. Radio silence? Luckily I didn't pay him any money yet. Tinybox#9112: :Oof: LuminousFuture#5919: Does this mean that the upgrade is free if it doesnt show the price even hitting the install button? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/600258328777719839/unknown.png TheGeekster#8508: That's upgrading from Windows 10 Home to Windows 10 Pro, the upgrade is not free LuminousFuture#5919: does the price only show up when you install it then? TheGeekster#8508: Why do you need to upgrade to Windows 10 Pro? The only advantages are certain features that are not available in home LuminousFuture#5919: Well im mostly curious because i think i got windows 10 pro back when they were upgrading 7 keys for free, cause i had windows 7 ultimate, but when i bought this computer it had 10 home installed on it LuminousFuture#5919: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/600260093153640448/unknown.png TheGeekster#8508: Did you install windows yourself? Or was it preinstalled by the seller? TheGeekster#8508: Sorry for the slow replies I'm at work LuminousFuture#5919: It was a system bought second hand, it had windows 10 on it, but I have a Key assigned to my Microsoft account Deleted User#0000: then it's fine Deleted User#0000: if the key if from the win 7 ultimate then it'll be gucci
Deleted User#0000: if not, i have pro keys TheGeekster#8508: Ahhhh right, yeah it's your key then not theirs. Honestly there's no real difference between pro and home unless you *need* some of the pro features that are mostly aimed at business anyway TheGeekster#8508: There's no performance boost or anything LuminousFuture#5919: Looking at it, it really doesnt give me as much usability as 7 ultimate vs 7 home, but If i ever have to do another fresh install, ill probably do it then LuminousFuture#5919: thanks lads TheGeekster#8508: No probs, they did stop gimping windows quite so hard with windows 10 thank god Tinybox#9112: Ah fuck Tinybox#9112: My Laptop randomly shutdown Tinybox#9112: 3 times Tinybox#9112: Ill Backup the data to Disc, because I lost my external HDD to USB. Tinybox#9112: Oooo. So my Board is an ASRock Z63 pro3 gen3 Soo the vrm is quite weakish, (ill have a small 40mm pwm Fan on it) I Can get an i5 3570k for 30-35 Euros....+R9 390. Or I Can get an i5 2500k + RX 580 4GB
What do I do? Tinybox#9112: @Tech Helper MythologicalZ#3752: 2500K and 580 imo MythologicalZ#3752: 390 just pulls way too much power TheGeekster#8508: Either one would work fine, why not the i5 3570k with a 580? Tinybox#9112: Out of the super tight budget Tinybox#9112: By 10-15 bucks Tinybox#9112: The RX 580 is 10 bucks more than the r9 390 killah#6020: tell yer mum to give u 15 bucks or ul slap her in the heed TheGeekster#8508: i'd suggest not going back quite as far as the 2500k, they're getting a bit, slow now, but is it impossible to just save up $10 over the next month? Tinybox#9112: While the 2500k is 10 bucks less. killah#6020: i got 2x 15 3570k r9390 pcs lol killah#6020: if ye need a benchmark lol Tinybox#9112: @TheGeekster I would.. But I Really dont want to...havent had a pc since last year november
Plus since I'm on holiday, I get no Pocket money. @killah I already exploited my parents quite hard and gained a +50 and a possible +20 killah#6020: hehe damn killah#6020: id still get the newer cpu killah#6020: get outside knock about the street help old people one o them will eventully pay u summit Tinybox#9112: Well power consumption isnt a tooo Big issue, as I got a clear power cap of 750w for two rigs. Any extra Consumed power ill adjust with an UV. Tinybox#9112: @killah And ye Benchmarks would be awesome Tinybox#9112: Ah...The RX 580 still has 1 years warranty.. killah#6020: damn u should jst hold out a week or so see if any luck comes ur way maybe get few more quid Tinybox#9112: Well I Can play the dick head and cut my brothers Budget a 2nd time Tinybox#9112: Actually..are there any particular reasons to go ivy? @TheGeekster @MythologicalZ MythologicalZ#3752: Shrinked node and better IPC
Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/600304170037411852/20190715_143415.jpg Tinybox#9112: Well the reason I even was like "ye 3570k" Is becsude of this..Sub par vrm Tinybox#9112: And I'll assume I'll get a max of 4.5ghz with a 2500k. With the i5 3570k I can reach the same at less VOLT? @MythologicalZ Tinybox#9112: To reduce stress on the vrm TheGeekster#8508: Generally the newer the better, and why do you care about the VRM? it's rated at 95W TDP cpu's, yours is like 75W... people put far too much in "oh the vrm this, vrm that" it works with what it's rated for, if you care about "super high quality" vrm's like gamers nexus bangs on about, be prepared to pay ALOT more Tinybox#9112: Ah well then. Tinybox#9112: I'll ghost the R9 390 guy, or just tell him I found a better offer. And I'll shot for the 2500k + RX 580 4gb then. First off all I'll give the 2500k guy a call JustinXenyx#8854: Just because a chip is newer doesn't mean you'll be able to reach similar clock speeds at less voltage while overclocking. If the chip is from a shit bin it will probably draw even more power than the older chip at the same clock speeds JustinXenyx#8854: TDP is a thermal thing, it doesn't really work as to rate a VRM, just because your CPU is supposed to have a TDP output of 90W, doesn't mean it actually draws 90W TheGeekster#8508: (Sorry if i sounded rude, i'm just sick to death about the whole VRM craze thing now, VRM's are designed to supply the amount of power they are designed to supply)
TheGeekster#8508: Aye, but you can't get more heat out than you put energy in, I use TDP as "the worst possible case scenario" i know cpu's rare use anywhere near it Tinybox#9112: No worries it didnt sound rude, y'all are helping me. So it's alright. Again thank you both @JustinXenyx @TheGeekster Tinybox#9112: Alright got the i5 2500k guy. Tinybox#9112: Now I need to get back to the RX 580 guy Tinybox#9112: alright got both secured now. Tinybox#9112: I feel bad now, for the R9 390 guy, as I kinda kept the talk down thing with ghosting for like 6 days :haha: the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: fan speed at 75% all the time is this bad for my card TheGeekster#8508: not overly, will just wear your bearings in the fan out a little faster the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: reason is i changed thermal paste the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: and thermals were good the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but thing started heating a weak later or so the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: so i set the fans to 75 the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: temps good
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but im not so sure about its life tho qpod#1603: Hi I recently bought a used hp 3500 mt (to upgrade with 1050ti) however when I switched it on it did not connect to WiFi - do I need to buy one of those wifi cards so that I can connect to the internet? SanteRaptor#2609: It seems that your config didnt come with a wireless adapter so yes, you need to buy either a external card which is like 11€ for a one with a proper antennae (doont buy the smol ones) or an internal which are usually way more expensive so i dont suggest that option. Or if you got a router close to you you could use a ethernet cable SanteRaptor#2609: @qpod DarknessFalls229#2286: use either ethernet OR a Wifi adapter, either PCIe 1x/16x, PCI or USB qpod#1603: Thx SanteRaptor#2609: Youre welcome qpod#1603: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cudy-WE300-Wireless-Detachable-Antennas/dp/B07QCYYY6G/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?keywords=wifi+card&qid=1563116951&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1 qpod#1603: Would smthn like this work DarknessFalls229#2286: sure DarknessFalls229#2286: dunno about the quality though qpod#1603: Ok 👍 XSpaTanx117X#0117: @Tech Helper Opinions on the thermaltake smart 600w? JustinXenyx#8854: shit @XSpaTanx117X
XSpaTanx117X#0117: Shit XSpaTanx117X#0117: Already bought it TheFifthAce#4128: @XSpaTanx117X literally worse than VS TheFifthAce#4128: return it TheFifthAce#4128: they're HEC units, which fail a fucking lot XSpaTanx117X#0117: Hasn't arrived yet TheFifthAce#4128: then make a return thing TheFifthAce#4128: in whatever online store you did it from XSpaTanx117X#0117: Any suggestions on a 600w? TheFifthAce#4128: what hardware are you powering @XSpaTanx117X TheFifthAce#4128: and which country are you TheFifthAce#4128: and what is the budget XSpaTanx117X#0117: No rosewill my 600w was DOA TheFifthAce#4128: duh JustinXenyx#8854: Why do you even need 600w?
XSpaTanx117X#0117: Around 50 TheFifthAce#4128: what hardware do you have TheFifthAce#4128: what country are you XSpaTanx117X#0117: USA TheFifthAce#4128: ok TheFifthAce#4128: we'll get there eventually TheFifthAce#4128: what hardware do you have XSpaTanx117X#0117: I have a unknown graphics card TheFifthAce#4128: that doesnt fucking help TheFifthAce#4128: does it work? XSpaTanx117X#0117: I know XSpaTanx117X#0117: Yes TheFifthAce#4128: do you have a machine with it? TheFifthAce#4128: does it have a sticker on it or any letters or numbers? TheFifthAce#4128: here, lets simplify
TheFifthAce#4128: take a picture. TheFifthAce#4128: Of the front and back of the card. XSpaTanx117X#0117: Card isn't with me I have a pic of the die XSpaTanx117X#0117: One sec TheFifthAce#4128: sure wapted#6788: *shows gtx 480 die* wapted#6788: *oh gawd* XSpaTanx117X#0117: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/574723504734208025/599781909773549589/JPEG_20190609_182321.jpg TheFifthAce#4128: gts 450 TheFifthAce#4128: I think wapted#6788: oh dear XSpaTanx117X#0117: Okay that's a 400w min right TheFifthAce#4128: well see wapted#6788: literally a crappy shitey 300watt dumpster fire of a psu would power that MythologicalZ#3752: No point in getting a new PSU if thats your card
MythologicalZ#3752: Get a better GPU first TheFifthAce#4128: nah I dont think thats a gts 450 TheFifthAce#4128: I think it is TheFifthAce#4128: it might be wapted#6788: and yes its a gts 450 TheFifthAce#4128: ok cool wapted#6788: or is it wapted#6788: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/600679337687253030/83-gf106-250-ka-a1.png wapted#6788: looks the same MythologicalZ#3752: Images are borked for me atm TheFifthAce#4128: @wapted that doesnt look at all the same DarknessFalls229#2286: no shit looks the same JustinXenyx#8854: nah, the numbers/codes on the die don't match at all @wapted DarknessFalls229#2286: all die look the same JustinXenyx#8854: But resistors look similar
DarknessFalls229#2286: its the numbers that counts wapted#6788: The die and package are the same wapted#6788: exactly the same, but ye for what gpu it rlly is wapted#6788: one second XSpaTanx117X#0117: This is why I want to get a beefy power supply just in case TheFifthAce#4128: maybe its some quadro? JustinXenyx#8854: Just a hot question, where did you buy the graphics card from? @XSpaTanx117X TheFifthAce#4128: its definitely a fermi card wapted#6788: its a GF106 wapted#6788: yes XSpaTanx117X#0117: Guy on eBay who got it from his brother who bought it thinking it was a GTX 1050 JustinXenyx#8854: Throw that shit out, now wapted#6788: possible cards wapted#6788: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/600679751207616513/unknown.png JustinXenyx#8854: Pretty much unusable unless you can get a bios of the original card on there
TheFifthAce#4128: http://vlab.su/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=16169 JustinXenyx#8854: Which is impossible unless you have an SPI flasher TheFifthAce#4128: this random forum thread claims that its a gts 450 wapted#6788: Classic scam card TheFifthAce#4128: ^ JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce look up a couple messages, its defo a GTS450 with borked bios TheFifthAce#4128: just toss it wapted#6788: The gpu variant has been scratched off TheFifthAce#4128: that card literally wont let you even install drivers @XSpaTanx117X TheFifthAce#4128: just throw it away or use it as a display piece JustinXenyx#8854: It will, but the drivers are going to be buggy as fuck @TheFifthAce wapted#6788: will likely crash in games TheFifthAce#4128: if you're lucky and it doesnt go "THere iS NO NVidiA cRd DeteCted in THe SysTem" TheFifthAce#4128: then it'll artifact to high hell in 3d rendering TheFifthAce#4128: if not outright crash
TheFifthAce#4128: instead of buying a PSU, get a card first lol XSpaTanx117X#0117: Guys I'm kind of attached the card already I'm going to try to get it to have the proper bios wapted#6788: All I can recommend is you get an rtx 2080 ti and responsibly recycle that gts450thing XSpaTanx117X#0117: Just need a psu wapted#6788: You wont be able to fix it with changing the bios sadly. You need a flashy majig I suspect wapted#6788: well I mean, you wont be able to change the vbios from within windows MythologicalZ#3752: SPI flasher meme JustinXenyx#8854: As i mentioned, any way of software bios flashing is impossible, because the bios that is on the card locks that down @XSpaTanx117X JustinXenyx#8854: And those hardware flashers cost about as much as your card is worth at best wapted#6788: An rx 470/480/570/580 might be a good choice wapted#6788: Meanwhile, im trying to decide how I should go about getting my 3900x wapted#6788: as my order from amazon is looking like its oof XSpaTanx117X#0117: But I will still need a PSU XSpaTanx117X#0117: Suggestions? TheFifthAce#4128: seasonic S12IIII 550w
TheFifthAce#4128: 53$ XSpaTanx117X#0117: Thank you Tinybox#9112: So I heard somewhere.. Tinybox#9112: Ram from HP pcs are kinda yiffy. TheFifthAce#4128: hp is gay TheFifthAce#4128: and proprietary Tinybox#9112: So what are the chances of a "HYNIX" branded RAM, (with a HP security sticker behind the branding) Coming from a HP 500B Working on my Z68 board. Tinybox#9112: Because I'm about to go out and buy 6gb (3 sticks of Kingston value ram) for 5 bucks. Tinybox#9112: And to make it 8 gig Tinybox#9112: I'd need another 2GB stick Tinybox#9112: And the only 2gb stick is from that PC Tinybox#9112: @Tech Helper maybe? MythologicalZ#3752: I'm guessing it'll be fine
MythologicalZ#3752: There have been cases of HP branded RAM not working outside of their systems but I don't think that will be the case here Tinybox#9112: aight Tinybox#9112: It does have hynix branding, and I seem to just be able to search the modell nummer and get proper specs. Tinybox#9112: (only the security thingy was worrying me JustinXenyx#8854: that HP thing is most likely just for their service centers to know what ram to pick when replacing it lol Tinybox#9112: anyway I hope it will work fine, as there are some bent pins that I tried to fix on this board.. They look like it would work..but they are noticeable Tinybox#9112: and hey the HP ram has the same timings, like the RAM I wanna get Tinybox#9112: ahhh what really worries me, the "fixed" pins are a different height VS all the other ones JustinXenyx#8854: when they're bent in the right place they're gonna make contact with the cpu anyway @Tinybox Tinybox#9112: ah alright Abe.#3344: Is the G402 a good mouse? It's pretty cheap on Amazon rn. GoldenSky#4649: I absolutely love mine GoldenSky#4649: Feels amazing in the hand and my accuracy is unreal with it GoldenSky#4649: If you can find it for €25 or €30, I’d say grab it
Deleted User#0000: Used discord on my phone and now my phone’s screen won’t turn on how do I force restart it cuz there is noth8ng onl8ne Deleted User#0000: When I charge it then plug it out I got my mi sign Deleted User#0000: is there a way to tell if a power supply is 230v and would american modualr power supply cables work with a 230v powersupply ? GoldenSky#4649: It should state it GoldenSky#4649: The cables just transfer power, they don’t generate it so it should be fine TheGeekster#8508: if it's a compatible set of cables, yes it will work as all PSU's downvolt to the same 12/5/3v inside computers, it's not a voltage issue, it's a brand & fitment issue Deleted User#0000: well i have a evga g1 650 and need the cables for it. So if i buy it from america it would be fine. And where would it state ? TheGeekster#8508: https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=100-cb-c123-b9 TheGeekster#8508: is it something like that? Deleted User#0000: yeah that was one of my options i was thinking about DarknessFalls229#2286: 100 bucks for cables though:Noo: Deleted User#0000: ik i can get them with a psu for 60 bucks Deleted User#0000: Im kinda regreting buying all the power packs tbh TheGeekster#8508: power packs? TheGeekster#8508: OHHH did you post the picture of the shit tons of power supplies?
Deleted User#0000: sorry im used to calling them power packs and yes that was me TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601084642174566406/unknown.png TheFifthAce#4128: gamer moment Deleted User#0000: yep Deleted User#0000: well at £2.30 each i couldnt say no DarknessFalls229#2286: but they are all lacking the cables? Deleted User#0000: yep TheFifthAce#4128: YIKES DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm Deleted User#0000: ik DarknessFalls229#2286: thats a big oof TheFifthAce#4128: make sure any cables you get are from the *same* psu TheFifthAce#4128: they cant even be a different wattage of the same PSU most of the time Deleted User#0000: thats why im planning on buying a set of cables, testing them all, selling all but one DarknessFalls229#2286: i got like 4 PSUs missing PCIe power cables and its very annoying
Deleted User#0000: and getting a free psu and cables out of it TheGeekster#8508: Ya mightttt have a few issues trying to sell them without cables DarknessFalls229#2286: ^ DarknessFalls229#2286: people usually get deterred by cableless PSUs Tinybox#9112: yo bois Tinybox#9112: is it safe to clean ram contacts with some ALCOHOLL? TheGeekster#8508: i mean... if you don't have to, then don't XSpaTanx117X#0117: @TheFifthAce I think you might be interested in this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601178639211560995/Screenshot_20190717-174245.png TheFifthAce#4128: what TheFifthAce#4128: oh cool TheFifthAce#4128: go buy the seasonic now XSpaTanx117X#0117: Yes I shall XSpaTanx117X#0117: @TheFifthAce this or a corsair psu XSpaTanx117X#0117: corsair XSpaTanx117X#0117: Seasonic S12III 550 SSR-550GB3 550W 80+ Bronze
TheFifthAce#4128: if its the VS avoid it TheFifthAce#4128: just go for the seasonic XSpaTanx117X#0117: okay its done Tinybox#9112: I got that weird feeling. Tinybox#9112: That I should tell the GPU guy to package the GPU properly Tinybox#9112: The CPU guy delivered the CPU in prisinte packing Tinybox#9112: Like seriously Tinybox#9112: EXTREME packing Tinybox#9112: So a guy is selling 5 R9 290s, 40 Fans For 110 bucks. It's an EX-mining RIG stuff Tinybox#9112: @Tech Helper Can't test the stuff currently seller says though 4 of them are fully working one overheats, and needs new thermal paste. BigPierogi#3368: 40 fans BigPierogi#3368: jesus JustinXenyx#8854: eh @Tinybox
JustinXenyx#8854: If you can resell them, buy them Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx They still got their shrouds and all included.. R9 290s currently go for like 50 bucks for a fast sell and 60 if you can wait JustinXenyx#8854: i'd buy them then JustinXenyx#8854: You could either: use them yourself, sell 2 of them and keep the rest so that you basically make your money back or sell all of them and make a decent profit Tinybox#9112: debating a lil as im unable to test them Tinybox#9112: but like you said Tinybox#9112: I only need 2 to work Tinybox#9112: To make profit Tinybox#9112: (or to make back my money) TheFifthAce#4128: @Tinybox buy them and sell them all for 40$ each as untested TheFifthAce#4128: :UWU: TheFifthAce#4128: that way you dont have to worry about it Tinybox#9112: Good idea but the sale will prob be realllyy slow JustinXenyx#8854: no one will buy them for 40€ untested @TheFifthAce
Tinybox#9112: Ill get a used PSU TheFifthAce#4128: oh right this isnt america Tinybox#9112: ask the guy if he has an original stock cooler TheFifthAce#4128: :Garfield_dab: TheFifthAce#4128: I'd buy em anyways Tinybox#9112: So I got a cooler for the R9 290 Tinybox#9112: I mean Tinybox#9112: 2500k Tinybox#9112: to test em JustinXenyx#8854: 40€ for a card thats "untested" (which usually means fucking broken, lets be real here) is 10-20€ under market value of a working card, so no one would buy them realistically @TheFifthAce TheFifthAce#4128: people would do that over here TheFifthAce#4128: :ultrakok: Tinybox#9112: although, here Tinybox#9112: he was mining etherum Tinybox#9112: seems to be undervolted cards too
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601436121670352896/unknown.png TheFifthAce#4128: :ULTRAKEK: JustinXenyx#8854: Every smart miner undervolts his cards @Tinybox JustinXenyx#8854: especially when their power monsters like 5 r9 290's TheFifthAce#4128: @Tinybox regardless, worth the buy Tinybox#9112: aight Tinybox#9112: ill go for it Tinybox#9112: ill buy a used psu as well TheFifthAce#4128: god I'm tempted to buy this just for the cooler so I can put it on a 5700 xt when I buy it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601436384384909413/unknown.png Tinybox#9112: Hope that my 2500k + mobo works Tinybox#9112: then test the r9 290s Tinybox#9112: :Hahahahaha: TheFifthAce#4128: ngl I also want this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601436631475552257/unknown.png Tinybox#9112: eehh im gonna trust the new enermas pro 82 Tinybox#9112: cheapest reliable seeming option
Tinybox#9112: *enermax JustinXenyx#8854: which one? JustinXenyx#8854: only Pro82 i remember was launched in 2008 Tinybox#9112: nevermind..All I know it's an enermax pro 82. could be this one Tinybox#9112: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601439249274765342/iu.png JustinXenyx#8854: Probably fine enough to test hardware but not to use in a main rig Tinybox#9112: Comes with an antec p180, and some noctua cooler, some lga 775 board, some other other, Tinybox#9112: for 20 bucks Tinybox#9112: 15-30 Tinybox#9112: Let's say that Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx I'm thinking of chugging that psu in with my rx 580 Tinybox#9112: that will be arriving on monday or tomorrow JustinXenyx#8854: hmmm JustinXenyx#8854: definitely from a decade ago then
Tinybox#9112: yep Tinybox#9112: Gonna attempt to pressure for 15 Tinybox#9112: I need a PSU to test those R9 290s asap Tinybox#9112: dad is just talkin (aka my driver lol) Tinybox#9112: Tryna tell him to hurry Tinybox#9112: impossible :Hahahahaha: Tinybox#9112: Bois did intel mounting change from 775>lga 1155 @Tech Helper JustinXenyx#8854: hell yeah it did JustinXenyx#8854: But most of the LGA775 coolers are easily modded to work with LGA1155 TheGeekster#8508: Did... Did ya not bother googling it? Tinybox#9112: @TheGeekster I googled it, but all I know it's some noctua cooler. Tinybox#9112: Alright if all goes 100% ill sell 3 of em. Build a gaming rig sell that for profit, and keep 1 Alcyone#2233: fun fact: most asrock 1155 boards have extra mount holes for 775 coolers https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601489687269343262/unknown.png JustinXenyx#8854: Sadly his Z68 Pro3 doesn't lol @Alcyone
Alcyone#2233: hmm they mustve removed it in a revision, my p67 extreme 4 had them as well https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601490453350580229/maxresdefault.png JustinXenyx#8854: or wait a minute, @Tinybox does your board have those mounting holes? JustinXenyx#8854: Because i don't remember that his specific board had them JustinXenyx#8854: +him asking if the mounting from 775 to 1155 changed also doesn't make it seem like he has them Xbox 360 1953#2640: Do 4gb sticks of ddr2 exist DarknessFalls229#2286: yes DarknessFalls229#2286: normal sticks are pretty rare, server sticks not so much DarknessFalls229#2286: there even exist 8GB server sticks Xbox 360 1953#2640: That's why I can't find them DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah DarknessFalls229#2286: do you even have a board that supports it? Xbox 360 1953#2640: Yeah Xbox 360 1953#2640: Supports a max of 8gb and has two slots DarknessFalls229#2286: ah JustinXenyx#8854: Let me guess, AMD mobo? @Xbox 360 1953
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Intel Xbox 360 1953#2640: @JustinXenyx kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’m here kasey unblock jesse#0395: @Tech Helper kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yeetus kasey unblock jesse#0395: I need help mi3night#2562: Ok now say what’s ur problem mi3night#2562: It’s in general chat so JustinXenyx#8854: Uhm, can you like ping, after you've written what you need help with? @kasey unblock jesse kasey unblock jesse#0395: That https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601522101169684511/image0.jpg kasey unblock jesse#0395: My motherboard sees everything DarknessFalls229#2286: did you configure the boot menu? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Ssd hdd kasey unblock jesse#0395: Okay I’m kind of stumped kasey unblock jesse#0395: Stupid*
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Mind walking me through the steps JustinXenyx#8854: 100% sure its just the boot config thats fucked TheGeekster#8508: (Also remember to remove anything not related to booting the OS, such as install USB sticks and shit) kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’m back to the og bios. Wasn’t sure if it was the updated ones problem (got dual bios) DarknessFalls229#2286: go into bios, into the "boot" section and put your boot drive to the top of the list kasey unblock jesse#0395: Well I have windows on the ssd kasey unblock jesse#0395: But even that won’t show kasey unblock jesse#0395: It is kasey unblock jesse#0395: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601522533606490122/image0.jpg TheGeekster#8508: Remove the USB stick in the PC kasey unblock jesse#0395: Let me turn it off first kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s out DarknessFalls229#2286: some motherboard require you to boot into "windows boot manager" instead of the SSD DarknessFalls229#2286: try that if you have the option TheGeekster#8508: now boot it up
kasey unblock jesse#0395: How do I boot into that kasey unblock jesse#0395: It worked just fine today DarknessFalls229#2286: so _it did_ work TheGeekster#8508: It's most likely the USB confusing the boot order, just try and boot it without any USB sticks in the computer kasey unblock jesse#0395: I still got the ssd plugged in kasey unblock jesse#0395: Nope kasey unblock jesse#0395: As I said kasey unblock jesse#0395: Still the message kasey unblock jesse#0395: Never seen this TheGeekster#8508: When you changed bios, do you know if you installed windows in UEFI mode? or AHCI mode? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Okay what DarknessFalls229#2286: So to make things clear: your computer was booting just fine when suddenly it reported that is no boot device no more? kasey unblock jesse#0395: I used to run windows on bios 2 kasey unblock jesse#0395: I cleaned the Pc kasey unblock jesse#0395: Nothing wrong
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Now it does this kasey unblock jesse#0395: Didn’t do anything mayor kasey unblock jesse#0395: Just some dust fan blowing dus out kasey unblock jesse#0395: Motherboard sees everything kasey unblock jesse#0395: Boot order is correct kasey unblock jesse#0395: Both bios’S see them kasey unblock jesse#0395: None boot into the usb or ssd kasey unblock jesse#0395: I keep getting the same message TheGeekster#8508: Please stop typing out hundreds of small messages, it you can try changing the boot mode in the bios, i'm looking up how to do it o your motherboard now kasey unblock jesse#0395: Thank you kasey unblock jesse#0395: And okay TheGeekster#8508: If you go to the bios, go to "Boot" and "boot settings configuration" is there an option for "BIOS/UEFI"? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Let me check TheGeekster#8508: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601523830103474186/unknown.png kasey unblock jesse#0395: Thanks
kasey unblock jesse#0395: For the picture kasey unblock jesse#0395: I don’t seen stuff related kasey unblock jesse#0395: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601524221272653824/image0.jpg TheGeekster#8508: Hmm, okay, not a uefi board, 1 sec kasey unblock jesse#0395: It might be because I am in a updated bios DarknessFalls229#2286: well that stuff are all regular options, its just not relevant right now TheGeekster#8508: okay go back to boot device priority, use the arrows to highlight "removable dev" and press the - key https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601524618473504789/unknown.png TheGeekster#8508: make sure that "SATA:PM-ADATA" is at the top of that list TheFifthAce#4128: would it be overkill to reinstall windows for my new headset kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’ve done that before I think TheFifthAce#4128: I always reinstall windows on hardware change kasey unblock jesse#0395: What @TheFifthAce Tinybox#9112: Alright Tinybox#9112: Picked up the R9 290s Tinybox#9112: Well 6 of the 40 fans.
DarknessFalls229#2286: suddenly 2 more conversations Tinybox#9112: Are sadly molex only kasey unblock jesse#0395: @TheGeekster just safe and retry? TheGeekster#8508: Yeah Tinybox#9112: @DarknessFalls229 yea I picked up 5x ex mining 290s Tinybox#9112: For 100 Tinybox#9112: With 40 fans DarknessFalls229#2286: nice, they dead yet? kasey unblock jesse#0395: It powered off completely TheGeekster#8508: Dudes, we're clearly in the middle of a fucking conversation trying to help someone Tinybox#9112: @DarknessFalls229 They hopefully work kasey unblock jesse#0395: I bought a mining card once kasey unblock jesse#0395: Worked fine Tinybox#9112: Ill test them
kasey unblock jesse#0395: @TheGeekster nope Tinybox#9112: If 2 work Tinybox#9112: I made my money back Tinybox#9112: Or if none work the TRI x shrouds and heatsinks and a few high quality fans will do kasey unblock jesse#0395: It did not work JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce nah, reinstalling windows just for a new headset sounds overkill TheGeekster#8508: Are you attached to this windows install? Would it be a pain in the ass to reinstall? Tinybox#9112: my bad :Hahaha: @TheGeekster Tinybox#9112: Sorry. kasey unblock jesse#0395: Sort of but I can re install kasey unblock jesse#0395: It didn’t see the bootstick tho Tinybox#9112: Sorry hydration oof TheGeekster#8508: Did you use windows 10 media creation tool for it? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yep kasey unblock jesse#0395: And I can’t make a new one
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Cuz I don’t got any other Pc kasey unblock jesse#0395: I got some week ass Chromebooks TheGeekster#8508: No other drives at all are plugged in to it? No USB Sticks? No DVD's or discs in drives? No storage hard drives? kasey unblock jesse#0395: I can try again while removing the ssd TheGeekster#8508: it's stupid, but can you try the SSD in one of the black sata connectors on your motherboard? Just incase kasey unblock jesse#0395: I always use the black ones DarknessFalls229#2286: What about resetting CMOS? TheGeekster#8508: Ah, try the red ones, the red ones are faster than the black ones, 6G vs 3G kasey unblock jesse#0395: Since sata 6gbs can be fucky on x58 DarknessFalls229#2286: think that'd work? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Ya kasey unblock jesse#0395: No message yet kasey unblock jesse#0395: Just a blinking dash DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, first thing i see in google is SATA 6GB not working kasey unblock jesse#0395: AY
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It works for once kasey unblock jesse#0395: Why tf didn’t it work the 10 times I tried before TheGeekster#8508: wait it's booting? kasey unblock jesse#0395: The bootstick TheGeekster#8508: ahh okay, might have been usb ports, USB 2.0 are more reliable for booting maybe? kasey unblock jesse#0395: I might loose 200gbs of memes kasey unblock jesse#0395: But eh TheGeekster#8508: you don't have to overwrite, if you install it should move everything to a windows.old folder TheGeekster#8508: just don't delete or format the partitions DarknessFalls229#2286: try resetting CMOS and using a different sata slot for your SSD, then try booting into windows again? kasey unblock jesse#0395: So I will keep 1 tb of games DarknessFalls229#2286: yes kasey unblock jesse#0395: I did clear cmos already DarknessFalls229#2286: hmm DarknessFalls229#2286: and different sata slot?
TheGeekster#8508: you will, but depending where they are, and how installed, some might need reinstalling kasey unblock jesse#0395: Also kasey unblock jesse#0395: Eh the games aren’t the big part kasey unblock jesse#0395: The pictures of family are BigPierogi#3368: i have like 1/2 of my other drive filled up with games BigPierogi#3368: almsot 500 gb kasey unblock jesse#0395: I got 2 full 500gb drives kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s in the bootstick TheGeekster#8508: ehhh if you've got pictures on this SSD that you REALLY want to keep, i'd like, be careful with what you do next kasey unblock jesse#0395: So just plug in the hdds and ssd and install on the ssd? TheGeekster#8508: OHHHHHHH, I KNOW WHAT IT FUCKIN IS kasey unblock jesse#0395: The most important pictures are backed up kasey unblock jesse#0395: Of dead members kasey unblock jesse#0395: But there are some I’d like to keep kasey unblock jesse#0395: You do?
TheGeekster#8508: When you installed windows before, you had hard drives plugged in, and they were detected as disk 0, not the SSD, so when you installed windows to the SSD, it installed the boot loader to the hard drives, and not to the SSD kasey unblock jesse#0395: But it was installed maybe a year ago? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Half a year for sure TheGeekster#8508: did you have the hard drives in at that time? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Okay I really don’t know TheGeekster#8508: Get out of the installer, plug the hard drives back in, and then try booting it up, just to try kasey unblock jesse#0395: I know they where formatted once windows was done by me TheGeekster#8508: can't lose anything by trying to boot from the hard drives instead of the SSD 🤔 TheGeekster#8508: if you want to give it a go kasey unblock jesse#0395: Sure kasey unblock jesse#0395: Just plug em all in or only the hdds? TheGeekster#8508: all the hard drives, the SSD, everything you had installed before, but nothing USB related TheGeekster#8508: (I'm guessing these are internal hard drives and not external?) kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yes kasey unblock jesse#0395: Keyboard still in?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s usb related TheGeekster#8508: yeah keyboard & mouse in kasey unblock jesse#0395: They are in a usb hub tho TheGeekster#8508: eh should be alright TheGeekster#8508: it's mainly storage related things kasey unblock jesse#0395: No boot kasey unblock jesse#0395: It did give me a overclock error? kasey unblock jesse#0395: With no overclock in kasey unblock jesse#0395: On* TheGeekster#8508: Try setting the boot priority to the hard drives, and, erm 🤔 that's a new one kasey unblock jesse#0395: Indeed kasey unblock jesse#0395: There 2 hdds and 1 windows as TheGeekster#8508: Anyway yeah try to set the boot priority to the hard drives, just trying to figure out things to try before reinstalling if poss kasey unblock jesse#0395: Which one to prioritize? kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’ve gotten further then before
DarknessFalls229#2286: pick one, if it doesnt work, pick the other kasey unblock jesse#0395: So it’s a win TheGeekster#8508: ^^ yep try one, then the other kasey unblock jesse#0395: All drives are picked up kasey unblock jesse#0395: Trying the ssd now DarknessFalls229#2286: wdym trying the ssd now? kasey unblock jesse#0395: As priority to boot DarknessFalls229#2286: no kasey unblock jesse#0395: Didn’t work so now 1 hdd DarknessFalls229#2286: we said try the hard drives first TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx the hyperx cloud came in and god they're so nice TheFifthAce#4128: I havent plugged them in, I just tested them by putting them on my head TheFifthAce#4128: but I'll plug em in later kasey unblock jesse#0395: Wat kasey unblock jesse#0395: Thanks for that darknes
DarknessFalls229#2286: just try setting the boot priority to the HDDs kasey unblock jesse#0395: No error yet kasey unblock jesse#0395: Just a flickering dash DarknessFalls229#2286: _its trying to boot_ TheGeekster#8508: hmmm :JeffreyIsThinking: Is all I can think of rn kasey unblock jesse#0395: Trying is a big part kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s trying hard kasey unblock jesse#0395: But nothing yet kasey unblock jesse#0395: Man this Pc is kinda loud with no side panel DarknessFalls229#2286: id say wait 30 more seconds before trying the other HDD kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’ll message ya in a minute TheGeekster#8508: to be fair that's a pretty fucking beefy motherboard DarknessFalls229#2286: @TheGeekster You think drive arrangement matters? kasey unblock jesse#0395: It is @TheGeekster kasey unblock jesse#0395: And I like it a lot
TheGeekster#8508: mmmmmmmmmmmm, it *shouldn't* DarknessFalls229#2286: But does it do _TWO_ xeons? DarknessFalls229#2286: 😎 kasey unblock jesse#0395: Last time when something was up a red led was blinking. A single ram stick was broken kasey unblock jesse#0395: But now no less TheGeekster#8508: yeah but like, if they're x5650's it don't count bruv 😩 DarknessFalls229#2286: E5420s kasey unblock jesse#0395: No. Not two Xeons kasey unblock jesse#0395: I hate English autocorrect DarknessFalls229#2286: on the best board i could get them kasey unblock jesse#0395: I got a x5650 lmao kasey unblock jesse#0395: Runs the games I need fine TheGeekster#8508: 😩 huh, fair do's DarknessFalls229#2286: damn, you got more threads than me kasey unblock jesse#0395: Kol
DarknessFalls229#2286: though this skulltrail board is nice DarknessFalls229#2286: are you gonna overclock too once you get things working? kasey unblock jesse#0395: I used to run a overclock kasey unblock jesse#0395: 4ghz stable and cool kasey unblock jesse#0395: 1.35 volt full load line calibration kasey unblock jesse#0395: OOH DarknessFalls229#2286: i got 3.2GHz on both my CPUs kasey unblock jesse#0395: It tried to boot if a hdd kasey unblock jesse#0395: But the entire Pc shut down DarknessFalls229#2286: uuuh DarknessFalls229#2286: retry? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Sure kasey unblock jesse#0395: I see a red led next to dean kasey unblock jesse#0395: Dram* kasey unblock jesse#0395: Let me check if they all show up in bios
kasey unblock jesse#0395: They do kasey unblock jesse#0395: Aaay it’s loading kasey unblock jesse#0395: At the speed of a hdd kasey unblock jesse#0395: But worth it kasey unblock jesse#0395: Thank you @TheGeekster and @DarknessFalls229 kasey unblock jesse#0395: I would not have thought of that kasey unblock jesse#0395: You are right I send way to many small messages DarknessFalls229#2286: Me neither :haha: didnt really know about that issue kasey unblock jesse#0395: Lmao DarknessFalls229#2286: So props to Qwan kasey unblock jesse#0395: How did this happen that kasey unblock jesse#0395: All I did DarknessFalls229#2286: Weird windows install kasey unblock jesse#0395: Was clean the motherboard gpu and cooler kasey unblock jesse#0395: Nothing different
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’m half a year kasey unblock jesse#0395: I might have bumped the cmos clear key DarknessFalls229#2286: Mhmm TheGeekster#8508: It was probably the borked boot order, I've had it happen before, my old gaming PC had the bootloader on the HDD, and the OS ont he SSD TheGeekster#8508: only realised when i removed the HDD and it wouldn't boot, i'd suggest backing stuff up when you can, and reinstalling windows when ever but with ONLY the SSD plugged in at the time kasey unblock jesse#0395: Thanks mate kasey unblock jesse#0395: Want some old pentiums I have kasey unblock jesse#0395: There all broken TheGeekster#8508: Would make great swimming costumes kasey unblock jesse#0395: Kol MacRick#3873: Would the RX580 8GB a good GPU to pair with a Ryzen 5 2600x? I want a GPU to play newer AAA titles GoldenSky#4649: thebottlenecker.com MacRick#3873: Oof a 30% bottleneck JustinXenyx#8854: @MacRick It's a decent pair and would allow for a simple upgrade to a higher end GPU later on JustinXenyx#8854: I would advise not using sites like thebottlenecker.com, as they aren't really accurate to a real life scenario
MythologicalZ#3752: 580 and a 2600x is a solid combo MacRick#3873: @JustinXenyx thank you for the advice! TheFifthAce#4128: bottlenecking is a lame concept @MacRick TheFifthAce#4128: Just make sure the CPU can keep the GPU pegged at 100% and you're generally aight GoldenSky#4649: So in other words, don’t fucking bottleneck 🙄🙄 TheFifthAce#4128: @GoldenSky well thats still bottlenecking... A gpu bottleneck TheFifthAce#4128: :Yikes: GoldenSky#4649: A GPU bottleneck is better than a CPU bottleneck anyways, but at least it allows the GPU to work as hard as it possibly can TheFifthAce#4128: so basically I'm ready to pull the trigger on buying that asrock 5700 xt TheFifthAce#4128: :red: TheFifthAce#4128: shall I perform the purchase JustinXenyx#8854: I wouldn't, it looks like ass tbh TheFifthAce#4128: I shall wait for sapphire or xfx then MythologicalZ#3752: If the ASRock cooler works well I dunno why you'd wait JustinXenyx#8854: ^true that, if you're fine with the looks and cooling performance of the card, go for it
TheFifthAce#4128: @MythologicalZ well drivers for one TheFifthAce#4128: I know they'll get better TheFifthAce#4128: but I don't wanna use the card while they're shit TheFifthAce#4128: I'm waiting until august prolly MythologicalZ#3752: :GWgoaThinken: MythologicalZ#3752: I've sat with shit AMD drivers before and it's honestly not that bad mi³nshel#9774: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601768239176876042/unknown.png mi³nshel#9774: how do i get it to show the other installed browers as options Xbox 360 1953#2640: Have you opened the other one you want to use Xbox 360 1953#2640: Since I know some browsers ask to be default mi³nshel#9774: im using opera, when i click the "set as default" option it opens this page in settings mi³nshel#9774: going through the control panel>programs>default programs lead to the same page kasey unblock jesse#0395: @TheGeekster mind helping me again when you have time? TheGeekster#8508: I would if I could, but I'm jam packed for the next few days, best bet is to ask Justin or ping tech helpers Tinybox#9112: @Tech Helper ^
Tinybox#9112: And hey..umm if you guys could also help me identify this cooler here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601772926513184768/unknown.png Tinybox#9112: would be cool lads JustinXenyx#8854: Looks like a Noctua NH-U12P or NH-U12P-SE2 @Tinybox TheGeekster#8508: You could literally have just googled "noctua coolers" and had a look 😐 JustinXenyx#8854: @TheGeekster I googled "Noctua 775 coolers" lmao JustinXenyx#8854: But one thing to keep in mind, @Tinybox, if its a NH-U12P its mounting bracket is not natively compatible with LGA1155, while the U12P-SE2 has the compatible mounting bracket JustinXenyx#8854: you'd basically have to mod the U12Ps mounting hardware by drilling a couple extra holes besides the original 775 holes kasey unblock jesse#0395: Oi kasey unblock jesse#0395: Anyone able to help me JustinXenyx#8854: I'm here, what do you need help with? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Installing windows, lmao kasey unblock jesse#0395: It won’t let me install on any drive or ssd JustinXenyx#8854: Does it show the drives? As in, can you see the partitions on the drive?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It shows the drives kasey unblock jesse#0395: It gives me an arrow tho kasey unblock jesse#0395: Error* JustinXenyx#8854: Do you have a screenshot of the error given? kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s in Dutch kasey unblock jesse#0395: And it’s different every time kasey unblock jesse#0395: It said something about hardware not supporting to boot of that drive kasey unblock jesse#0395: Let me retry kasey unblock jesse#0395: I believe I’ve had something like this before but I forgot how to fix it TheGeekster#8508: this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601776004351918080/hqdefault.png kasey unblock jesse#0395: I will be right back I gotta enter my windows key kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yes kasey unblock jesse#0395: But for win10 kasey unblock jesse#0395: What is the fix? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Well
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Welp* kasey unblock jesse#0395: @JustinXenyx ? kasey unblock jesse#0395: @Tech Helper SanteRaptor#2609: Gparted SanteRaptor#2609: I thonk SanteRaptor#2609: Put it on a usb and remove the old partitions JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, the partition is messing with the install, you need to reformat the drive @kasey unblock jesse kasey unblock jesse#0395: Ah kasey unblock jesse#0395: What drive the usb or the ssd JustinXenyx#8854: Also, i speak german, trying to understand what it says in Dutch isn't that hard lol JustinXenyx#8854: The SSD is causing issues kasey unblock jesse#0395: It is kasey unblock jesse#0395: I don’t speak german kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s hard mate kasey unblock jesse#0395: I already formatted the drive once tho
kasey unblock jesse#0395: And twice SanteRaptor#2609: GPARTED SanteRaptor#2609: I know kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’m booting the pc up again SanteRaptor#2609: Because I've experienced this kasey unblock jesse#0395: Takes a lil time SanteRaptor#2609: Gparted is the answer kasey unblock jesse#0395: I don’t know what that is tho kasey unblock jesse#0395: The usb drive is taking its sweet time SanteRaptor#2609: It's a lil thing used to manage partitions (usually linux partittions) JustinXenyx#8854: I think its a partition manager that you can boot from a seperate USB stick SanteRaptor#2609: Yed kasey unblock jesse#0395: I don’t got a second usb stick kasey unblock jesse#0395: Or a other pc to acces SanteRaptor#2609: Well shit man
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I got a shitty Chromebooks that can’t even make a windows bootstick kasey unblock jesse#0395: And 1 usb with a win 10 JustinXenyx#8854: Then i think your best bet is to just google how to reformat a partition using the command prompt kasey unblock jesse#0395: What kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’m to retarded for this kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’ve never had this problem tho kasey unblock jesse#0395: So wtf I gotta do JustinXenyx#8854: "hoe een partitie opnieuw in te stellen met behulp van de opdrachtprompt" is the dutch translation, if that makes more sense kasey unblock jesse#0395: Ik that kasey unblock jesse#0395: But still kasey unblock jesse#0395: It keeps giving me shit about something called diskpart JustinXenyx#8854: thats EXACTLY what you need to use kasey unblock jesse#0395: Nothing related to me kasey unblock jesse#0395: How do i use it without a freaking pc tho kasey unblock jesse#0395: Or can that be used In the bootstick?
JustinXenyx#8854: You can do that in the bootstick kasey unblock jesse#0395: Ow shit kasey unblock jesse#0395: Than I passed right instructions JustinXenyx#8854: I think Shift + F10 should bring up the command prompt kasey unblock jesse#0395: Indeed kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yeah I’m in cmd kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’ll follow the instructions on a Dutch article kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’ll ping you if I’m to retarded to do it JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, i'll be waiting lol kasey unblock jesse#0395: Lol kasey unblock jesse#0395: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601782074193477633/image0.jpg kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’ve got that @JustinXenyx kasey unblock jesse#0395: I geus disk 0 is the usb JustinXenyx#8854: Yes, Disk 0 is the USB, which would also be indicated that its just a 14GB drive kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s 16
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Or it says it is kasey unblock jesse#0395: But eh kasey unblock jesse#0395: I’ve selected disk 1 kasey unblock jesse#0395: What do I do with it kasey unblock jesse#0395: Create a partition? JustinXenyx#8854: Type in "clean" JustinXenyx#8854: That should format the Disk kasey unblock jesse#0395: That was fast "Cobs"#1150: POST @r5E JustinXenyx#8854: If that was successful, type "create partition primary" kasey unblock jesse#0395: Succeeded kasey unblock jesse#0395: That it? JustinXenyx#8854: now "format fs=ntfs" kasey unblock jesse#0395: It said 0% completed kasey unblock jesse#0395: Ooh wait
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s counting now kasey unblock jesse#0395: That might take a while kasey unblock jesse#0395: What is it doing? JustinXenyx#8854: Should take like 5-10 Minutes kasey unblock jesse#0395: Ah that’s not that long kasey unblock jesse#0395: I had to make a bootstick on a old laptop once kasey unblock jesse#0395: Wow that took long JustinXenyx#8854: It's formatting the drive for Microsofts own filesystem called "NTFS" kasey unblock jesse#0395: Okay kasey unblock jesse#0395: Any steps after that? JustinXenyx#8854: Not in CMD JustinXenyx#8854: After its done formatting to NTFS, you should just be able to choose it as the drive you want to install Windows on kasey unblock jesse#0395: Not as hard as I thought with the right instructions kasey unblock jesse#0395: Thanks "Cobs"#1150: Wait you didn’t tell him to do format when trying to install windows onto did you? @JustinXenyx
"Cobs"#1150: If so it’ll be missing a few additional partitions windows creates, best to leave it as unallocated space and just hitting next kasey unblock jesse#0395: What kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s still formatting JustinXenyx#8854: Windows will split off parts of the partition to create all that stuff either way @"Cobs" "Cobs"#1150: Not normally if it’s formatted as one partition to start off with "Cobs"#1150: If it’s unallocated it’ll auto create them "Cobs"#1150: I had this issue with a few machines I built and formatted, some installers refused to work kasey unblock jesse#0395: 61% Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx I think my motherboard has LGA 775 mounting holes? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601789653284159519/unknown.png JustinXenyx#8854: @Tinybox I asked you that before, because it seems they removed that with certain revisions of the Pro3 Tinybox#9112: 🤔 Tinybox#9112: Alright. Tinybox#9112: Yea mine has it Tinybox#9112: I see the holes are labeled Tinybox#9112: "LGA 775"
JustinXenyx#8854: Nice, so you don't have to mod the cooler then JustinXenyx#8854: @kasey unblock jesse It seems to take longer than i thought :thinking_peter: kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s still going kasey unblock jesse#0395: 85% kasey unblock jesse#0395: :Oof: :FeelsBadMan: kasey unblock jesse#0395: IT IS DONE @JustinXenyx kasey unblock jesse#0395: Just exit cmd and install windows? JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, that should cut it @kasey unblock jesse kasey unblock jesse#0395: Gun kasey unblock jesse#0395: The error didn’t go away kasey unblock jesse#0395: Do I need to reboot? kasey unblock jesse#0395: It can’t make a new system partition or find a existing one kasey unblock jesse#0395: I hate this kasey unblock jesse#0395: @JustinXenyx any other tips? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Might have found a fix on google
JustinXenyx#8854: Not really, @"Cobs" do you have any ideas? "Cobs"#1150: That’s because you formatted the drive when you did the install "Cobs"#1150: The temporary system partition was not created "Cobs"#1150: Easy fix tho "Cobs"#1150: Load up diskpart again, run the clean command and then close out of diskpart JustinXenyx#8854: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601776004351918080/hqdefault.png This is what he gets afaik, not the exact error, its something similar to that "Cobs"#1150: From there do refresh on the installer screen, and push next when your disk shows as unallocated, don’t try and create any partitions kasey unblock jesse#0395: Nope kasey unblock jesse#0395: What I found didn’t work "Cobs"#1150: Does your machine support Beyond2TB+ technology if that’s the error? kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s not over 2tb tho kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yeah I get that error tho GoldenSky#4649: What has been tried? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Cleaning the disk in cmd kasey unblock jesse#0395: Or something like that
GoldenSky#4649: That all? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Read up is the best awnser for what I did in cmd GoldenSky#4649: Is it an IDE or SATA drive? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Sata kasey unblock jesse#0395: 120gb ssd kasey unblock jesse#0395: Never had this before GoldenSky#4649: Okay, have you tried booting from your Windows setup medium in a different mode? kasey unblock jesse#0395: How? GoldenSky#4649: There’s usually UEFI mode and Legacy mode "Cobs"#1150: Have you loaded raid drivers or checked your in AHCI drive mode? GoldenSky#4649: Enter your boot menu kasey unblock jesse#0395: I don’t know how to enter my boot menu on this board kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s asus kasey unblock jesse#0395: F8 google says JustinXenyx#8854: As far as i remember he has a Rampage III Extreme, which does not have a UEFI @GoldenSky
GoldenSky#4649: Okay, and is the SSD connected to the SATA 0 port? kasey unblock jesse#0395: It shows up on sata port 1 in the bios kasey unblock jesse#0395: I don’t believe there is a 0 kasey unblock jesse#0395: It’s the first one kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yes kasey unblock jesse#0395: The 3gbs not the 6gbs GoldenSky#4649: Yes, but often times you’ll see them labelled SATA0 for port 1 GoldenSky#4649: Try connect the SSD to another port on the board JustinXenyx#8854: Hold on, why did you plug your SSD into a 3 Gbs (SATA revision 2) port? That's just crippling performance @kasey unblock jesse GoldenSky#4649: That too kasey unblock jesse#0395: Sata 6 points down at the seperate port https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/601796467631325194/image0.jpg kasey unblock jesse#0395: While there are 7 kasey unblock jesse#0395: So yes I think it is in slot 0 GoldenSky#4649: Try each port until Windows installs kasey unblock jesse#0395: Okay so
kasey unblock jesse#0395: What i did kasey unblock jesse#0395: Is switch to bios 1 (og factory settings) kasey unblock jesse#0395: Went into boot menu and selected the usb kasey unblock jesse#0395: Skipped the activation key kasey unblock jesse#0395: And it works now GoldenSky#4649: Good kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yes kasey unblock jesse#0395: Could it have something to do with the updated bios? GoldenSky#4649: But seriously plug that SSD into a faster port kasey unblock jesse#0395: The 6gbs one GoldenSky#4649: It could yeah kasey unblock jesse#0395: I believe those are fucky on x58 kasey unblock jesse#0395: I don’t mind waiting 10 extra seconds for windows JustinXenyx#8854: X58 doesn't have native SATA3 as far as i know kasey unblock jesse#0395: Well it does?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But google it kasey unblock jesse#0395: There fucky JustinXenyx#8854: yeah, that's why i know it doesn't have native SATA 3 JustinXenyx#8854: The chipset doesn't have sata3, its usually added with an extra controller kasey unblock jesse#0395: There is a large heat sink next to it kasey unblock jesse#0395: I have never used them. And waiting a little extra isn’t a big problem for me GoldenSky#4649: Imo, if you’re going for an SSD you clearly want the speed, so why bother bottling yourself, you get me? kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yeah but comparing a hdd to an ssd kasey unblock jesse#0395: Even on 3gbs is ALOT GoldenSky#4649: Yeah, but you’re also not getting the full speed - assuming the SSD is that fast kasey unblock jesse#0395: I got it for 15 euro kasey unblock jesse#0395: The sticker came off once so I don’t know the exact model GoldenSky#4649: Anyways, if Windows is installing then happy days kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yes kasey unblock jesse#0395: But how could a bios affect windows install?