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Deleted User#0000: No problems at all,right ?
JustinXenyx#8854: Both are USB 3, correct? Then you shouldn't run into any performance slowdown
Deleted User#0000: My enclosure even supports 3.1 too.
Deleted User#0000: Well yes
Deleted User#0000: Well thanks a lot bud
Deleted User#0000: I'm good now
JustinXenyx#8854: No problem, if you do run into any issues you can just ask away here, someone is bound to help
Deleted User#0000: Thanks a lot !
TheFifthAce#4128: why even do raid tho :crome:
HotShot#8006: @Deleted User your boot speeds can also be because of the amount of hardware you are using. Basically the computer has to initialise the devices that are connected.
Haris Džinović#5160: guys im having a problem with RGB fusion
as soon as it say plaese wait, my hdd powers up, rgb fusion on the taskbar show up for a split second, shuts off and my hdd goes to its normal state
Deleted User#0000: Is there a big difference between gddr5 and gddr6?
Jam#0384: Not as big as GDDR3 or DDR4 and GDDR5
IRON MAIDEN#4184: 1 is faster |
IRON MAIDEN#4184: xD
Jam#0384: GDDR5X also exists
Deleted User#0000: @Jam but would I notice a difference between the two?
Jam#0384: Likely not considering no card has a variant of one and the other
Jam#0384: So you’d be more likely to see the difference in core
Jam#0384: It’s not an easy thing to compare
Jam#0384: GDDR5 was used for so long that some cards will be borderline unusable (or worse) today and others will still be super powerful
Deleted User#0000: Okay sweet
Deleted User#0000: Because I'm upgrading to a gddr6 card so was wondering if there would be much of a difference in modern games
tony#0083: Hey guys
tony#0083: I just bought a asus 1060 6gb strix
tony#0083: And im trying to conect it but i dont have the right power connector
tony#0083: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/654837088335822859/JPEG_20191212_210843.jpg
tony#0083: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/654837362077204530/20191212_210939.jpg
tony#0083: Thats the most similar one i got |
tony#0083: Could i shave the edges untill it fits?
tony#0083: Also the connector of the cable is missing 2 pins will it work?
Jam#0384: No it won’t work
Jam#0384: You need a 8Pin PCIE power
Jam#0384: You can convert a 6pin
tony#0083: Im sorry it is the same shape
Jam#0384: Yes but it still won’t work
tony#0083: Its just that its missing 2 pins
tony#0083: Ok
Jam#0384: Still wont work
Jam#0384: You need all 8pins filled
tony#0083: I do have an 8 pin but its being used by my mother
Jam#0384: Not the same 8 pin
Jam#0384: Don’t use that one on a GPU
Jam#0384: It will kill the system |
Jam#0384: You need a PCIE 8Pin, that one might be able to fit but it’s an EPS 8Pin (or 4+4) and it will fry your gpu or entire system
tony#0083: Dang
tony#0083: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/654839238671728670/20191212_211657.jpg
tony#0083: Thats the one im talking about
Jam#0384: Thats EPS
Jam#0384: Never put it in your GPU
BigPierogi#3368: if you do
BigPierogi#3368: you wont have a pc
BigPierogi#3368: well you wont have a gpu
BigPierogi#3368: just sparks probably
BigPierogi#3368: and smoke
tony#0083: Nais
tony#0083: Tnx for the heads up
tony#0083: And whats a pci-e?
tony#0083: Got one right here |
BigPierogi#3368: is it a powr connector
tony#0083: Will it work?
BigPierogi#3368: is it a power connector labeled pcie?
BigPierogi#3368: if so then yes
tony#0083: Yes it is
tony#0083: But
tony#0083: The end that conects to the gpu has 8 pins
tony#0083: The one that goes to the power has 6
tony#0083: Is it okey?
Jam#0384: No
Jam#0384: Like I said
Jam#0384: You need an 8 pin
Jam#0384: Why are you ignoring what I say but listening to him lol?
Jam#0384: You need to use one with all 8 pins and it cannot be the one you have for you CPU/Motherboard EPS
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^^ |
tony#0083: So
tony#0083: It worked
tony#0083: @BigPierogi was right
BigPierogi#3368: what
BigPierogi#3368: i didnt say anything
tony#0083: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/654852745060155396/JPEG_20191212_221055.jpg
russ_the_b#5525: if its a 6 pin power connector with an 8 pin face on it you probably wont have ground
russ_the_b#5525: which puts the gpu in danger
russ_the_b#5525: not a good idea
BigPierogi#3368: ^
BigPierogi#3368: I wouldnt reccomend it
tony#0083: It does, i see yellow and black cables coming out of it
tony#0083: Never the less
tony#0083: I have to tell you guys something
russ_the_b#5525: it will work but the least power surge will fry your new gpu |
tony#0083: I bought this gpu
tony#0083: As broken
tony#0083: The guy said that i didnt work
tony#0083: And sold it to me for dirt cheap
tony#0083: I dont know what to expect
tony#0083: Rn its working
tony#0083: I havent tried games on it yet
tony#0083: The fans turn off once windows initialize
tony#0083: I dont know if its normak
BigPierogi#3368: what gpu is it
russ_the_b#5525: are you sure its not one of them wish.com scam cards where it says its a 1060 but its actually a 750 or something?
tony#0083: Na
tony#0083: Its a asus 1060 strix 6gb oc
tony#0083: Im from Argentina
tony#0083: And i bought it locally |
BigPierogi#3368: i think some nvida cards dont spin their fans if their idle
BigPierogi#3368: but they do under load
BigPierogi#3368: or should
tony#0083: The guy said that the gpu gave no image
Jam#0384: I wouldn't advise running it like that for a long period of time or under load
Jam#0384: And no, it's not a scam card it's the real Strix
tony#0083: So i used msi afterburner to controk the fans and they work
Schwefel Kamm#3302: Hey, I was wondering what slows down a computer the most- Videos, folders, pictures, (i know games and programs do) or even shortcuts.
Schwefel Kamm#3302: Thanks
TheFifthAce#4128: windows animations
TheFifthAce#4128: turning off windows animations will drastically improve performance on lower end hardware
Doughnut#6547: if you have a hard drive and you delete and create new files frequently, that may slow it down and defragmentation may be needed (backup before defragmenting)
If you have a solid state drive, that won't be a problem
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One thing that can slow down your PC are applications that are running in the background. YOu may wanna close those you dont use
Jam#0384: He had an i3-6100 and 8GB RAM i already helped him out in DMs
JustinXenyx#8854: @BigPierogi @russ_the_b Taking off 1 ground and 1 sense pin is literally gonna change nothing
JustinXenyx#8854: Only difference between 6pin and 8 pin is 1 ground and 1 sense pin, in reality those pins could just be left off because they don't add anything
JustinXenyx#8854: "it will work but the least power surge will fry your new gpu" "6pin plugged into 8 pin is gonna put your gpu into danger" No, stop bullshitting, thanks
Jam#0384: Last time I did that the system didn’t boot until I used an entire 8pin
Jam#0384: Though
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh yeah, another thing i wanted to adress
JustinXenyx#8854: Without that sense pin connected, it's not gonna work anyway, but those adapters do nothing more than connect those 2 extra pins to ground on the PSU side
TheGeekster#8508: molex to 8 pin gpu adapters ftw, but yeah just get a small adapter from a brand name, it's cheap enough
TheGeekster#8508: (just don't get the cheap chinese ones, they melt and make boom boom)
Jam#0384: That’s what I said
TheGeekster#8508: yarp it was
russ_the_b#5525: so not connecting your gpu to ground doesnt put its in danger anymore cuz last i checked it totally did "but those adapters do nothing more than connect those 2 extra pins to ground on the PSU side"@JustinXenyx
JustinXenyx#8854: @russ_the_b Who said to not connect the GPU to ground at all? |
JustinXenyx#8854: There is just ONE ground wire missing, which in reality does nothing anyway, so it can be left out and not cause any additional harm
russ_the_b#5525: yeah but if it was 1 ground and 1 sense pin it wouldnt work but it did work which makes the 2 pins ground
JustinXenyx#8854: No, that's not how it works
JustinXenyx#8854: that sense pin gets connected to ground, yes. But it is not a direct ground wire
JustinXenyx#8854: The sense pin senses if there is a connection to ground, if yes then it knows there is an 8 pin connected
JustinXenyx#8854: If that sense pin cannot sense a connection to ground, it knows something is up
russ_the_b#5525: then explain how the gpu worked with the 6 pin
JustinXenyx#8854: 6 pin also has a sense pin and considering it's a 1060 it doesn't need the extra power so it could have been configured to run with a 6 or 8 pin in BIOS
JustinXenyx#8854: My own GTX970 runs with only 1 6 Pin because i shorted the sense pin of the second 6pin to the cards internal ground (because the 12v line on the second six pin has some funny business going causing overcurrent protection to kick in) and that works fine
Deleted User#0000: Upgrading my rig to a i5 8400 and a gtx 1660 ti
Deleted User#0000: £420 for the entire system which is noice
tony#0083: hey guys
JustinXenyx#8854: @Deleted User blaze that shit lol
tony#0083: im running a fx series processor with 16g ddr3 and a asus strix 1060 6gb oc
tony#0083: i was thinking changing cpu since its a bottle neck rn |
tony#0083: what do you recomend?
JustinXenyx#8854: To get off the FX as soon as possible and to go Ryzen
JustinXenyx#8854: Not upgrade the FX, straight up dump it
JustinXenyx#8854: Even if you have a 4300 or 6300, the 8300 etc are not gonna improve your situation a whole lot and investing more money into a platform as dead as AM3+ is a stupid decision
tony#0083: i was thinking maby i7
JustinXenyx#8854: If we're talking newer i7 (6700k, 7700k and up) then hell no. Those are overpriced as hell and Ryzen beats them new for a lower cost
JustinXenyx#8854: If we talk Sandy Bridge - Haswell then only if you get a good price. processors with 4 cores and even 4 cores/8 threads are starting to fall behind because of their corecount
Jam#0384: Haswell and Broadwell are no cheaper than Skylake
Jam#0384: Ivy and Sandy, deals can be found
TheFifthAce#4128: @tony i7 is so fucking vague
TheFifthAce#4128: :UWU:
TheFifthAce#4128: also sell me the fx
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/655214886640549888/JPEG_20191213_234142.jpg
Deleted User#0000: 👌
HotShot#8006: I got a 6700k new for £160. I think they have been going down in price and if you can get these chips for cheap, please do, because you could save money from going to a newer generation, and you also can get cheap motherboards. Z170 is so cheap. I sold a board I got for £75 after 2-3 years for £40. H110 boards are £20 and under. |
HotShot#8006: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/655227221597880330/IMG_20191213_163000478.jpg
HotShot#8006: I'm also getting issues booting my PC up on a crucial m.2.
HotShot#8006: It either goes into recovery, pauses on the windows logo or works.
HotShot#8006: I also has a bsod recently today. Would I need a new SSD? I have several spare so even if I have to RMA it, I can put something together for a backup boot drive I can make while at work with the basics.
HotShot#8006: Well if I have the time
TheFifthAce#4128: 6700k for 160 pounds is too many
TheFifthAce#4128: 3600 destroys it
yark#6609: How big of an improvement is an i7 4790 or 4790k over an i5 4590?
SuSSudio#2688: basically just an i5 with HT enabled, you get the performance gains from the hyperthreading
Jam#0384: And higher boosts
Jam#0384: Significantly
yark#6609: In MHW and SC2 would I see performance gains and how big would they be?
JustinXenyx#8854: SC2? Starcraft? @yark
CaptainFlanger#2563: For me, I can't feel any difference between my i7-3770 and my previous i5-3470. Other than having a hyperthreading.
CaptainFlanger#2563: Or maybe it's just me. |
SuSSudio#2688: Yeah back then when intel offered quad cores max to their mainstream lineups, the perks with the i7 were just the overclocking potential & the hyperthreading...
situation remains the same in present intel, except with higher core counts & HT moved to i9
tdp2612#3835: ^
tdp2612#3835: i mean id love to try a 2600, really the only cpu upgrade worth doing for me other than buying mb as well, at which point id move to something newer
tdp2612#3835: but then all id be gaining is the extra 4 threads, and the prices are stupid
CaptainFlanger#2563: I paid USD $80 for my i7-3770. Don't know if that's a good deal or overpriced POS.
yark#6609: @JustinXenyx SC2 is Starcraft 2
CaptainFlanger#2563: ^
MythologicalZ#3752: Depends on when you paid 80 for it
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^
Jam#0384: I got my 2600K for $90 in Q1 2018, buttt it can do 5GHz at 1.15V and 5.1GHz on 1.2 soo
Jam#0384: Plus I really got the good deal on the Intel Extreme Z77
Jam#0384: $40 new
Salad#8886: Hello, I have a 5 yr old pc which has a Core i5-3450, Intel DH61BF mobo, Windows 8 64-bit |
Salad#8886: And I'm planning to buy AMD RX 550
Salad#8886: Can anyone tell me if it supports my PC?
MythologicalZ#3752: In theory yes but 1155 has been known to have issues with Polaris and Pascal cards so it can be a coin toss at times
Salad#8886: Oh
Salad#8886: in what way exactly?
Salad#8886: i mean, in performance?
Salad#8886: or in compatibility and stability
MythologicalZ#3752: Compatibility
Salad#8886: ohk
Salad#8886: thanks
Salad#8886: https://www.amazon.in/dp/B07DTYNYR1
Salad#8886: This is the amazon link to that GPU
Salad#8886: nowhere it mentioned about polaris and pascal gpus?
Salad#8886: im confused 😢
MythologicalZ#3752: Polaris is the architecture for 400/500 series GPUs |
MythologicalZ#3752: Pascal is the Nvidia 10 series
MythologicalZ#3752: On my phone atm so I cba to convert currency but generally buying a low profile GPU new isn't the best value
MythologicalZ#3752: What size PSU do you have?
Salad#8886: yeah i know its not the best value but im extremely limited to that budget 😦
Salad#8886: i dont remember much about the PSU, but it has sticker on the outer side which says "AC 230V"
MythologicalZ#3752: Probably not too great then
MythologicalZ#3752: Have you checked your local used market?
Salad#8886: No, but i heard these used parts around me arent that reliable
Salad#8886: soo i'm afraid to take that risk...
Salad#8886: thats why im going for a new one
Salad#8886: can you suggest me the possibly best gpu for my pc under $70
Salad#8886: thats as far as i can go
Salad#8886: not moore than 70 😦
MythologicalZ#3752: Normally I'd say RX 470 but without knowing your PSU size it's not really viable
MythologicalZ#3752: So if you want to something asap that 550 isn't the worst thing ever |
MythologicalZ#3752: Keep in mind that the 470 would have to be bought used if you can even find one
Salad#8886: i just looked up for rx 470 but its waaaaay beyond my budget
Salad#8886: and yeah i will try for a used one
MythologicalZ#3752: For the 470 only check used
MythologicalZ#3752: It's been discontinued so it's only scalpers selling it new at ridiculous prices
Salad#8886: yeaa okay
Salad#8886: wait is there a way i can check the psu specs if i open up my PC
Salad#8886: i remember some stuff written on it
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah that's the way you'd need to check it
Salad#8886: ok imma do it now
Salad#8886: few min
Salad#8886: oh and is it safe to open it while keeping the PC turned ON (i know its not but still)
Salad#8886: i wont touch anything
Salad#8886: though
MythologicalZ#3752: Removing a side panel should be fine |
Salad#8886: yeah im just going to remove that
Salad#8886: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/655453214149181470/IMG_20191214_222442.jpg
Salad#8886: check it once
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah no that's not running a RX 470
MythologicalZ#3752: That 550 is probably your best bet new
MythologicalZ#3752: Otherwise look for a 560 or 1050Ti used
Salad#8886: Oh wow! 1050ti works??
MythologicalZ#3752: If it's a 75w version yeah
Salad#8886: thats more powerful than both 550 and 560 right?
MythologicalZ#3752: For reference I've run a Aero ITX 1050ti on a 275w
MythologicalZ#3752: Ehhh, about on par
MythologicalZ#3752: It beats a 550
Salad#8886: cool, imma look for a good used one then
Salad#8886: if not imma head back to 550
Salad#8886: im good with any of those |
Salad#8886: tbh
Salad#8886: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/655454262809198607/IMG_20191214_223057.jpg
Salad#8886: this is where it needs to be installed right
Salad#8886: (im kinda new to this pc hardware pls dont mind 😦 )
Salad#8886: i dont even know i ran games for 5 yrs on an iGPU
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah thats the slot
MythologicalZ#3752: Pcie
Salad#8886: yeahh
MythologicalZ#3752: Probably a 8x/16x
MythologicalZ#3752: Smaller ones are 1x
Salad#8886: 550 requires 16x
Salad#8886: is mine 16x?
MythologicalZ#3752: Doesn't require 16x
Salad#8886: oh
MythologicalZ#3752: It's able to take "advantage" of 16x |
MythologicalZ#3752: Realistically you'll be fine on 8x
Salad#8886: oh
Salad#8886: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/655455439911387165/IMG_20191214_223532.jpg
Salad#8886: i found this
Salad#8886: it says 16
Salad#8886: wow so that means I'll be getting more performance, more than if i had a 8x
MythologicalZ#3752: Most GPUs will be fine on 8x
MythologicalZ#3752: And iirc, 16x on a 550 isn't really necessary
Salad#8886: oh okayy
Salad#8886: thanks a lot for your help man
you cleared all the clutter 😊
MythologicalZ#3752: :TheGoods:
Salad#8886: oh btw, what is the size of my psu?
Salad#8886: and how to get to know it?
Salad#8886: i'd like to know for future reference.. 😅 |
MythologicalZ#3752: """"450w""""
MythologicalZ#3752: No efficiency ratings or anything so don't trust to deliver that full amount
Salad#8886: ohk
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/655460129151516693/JPEG_20191214_110049.jpg
Deleted User#0000: new rig
Deleted User#0000: 👌
Salad#8886: wow, specs??
Deleted User#0000: i5 8400
Gtx 1660ti
16gb ram
IRON MAIDEN#4184: Nice
Deleted User#0000: cost £420 for the entire system and I recased it into my case
thatubuntuguy#5914: AIO DETECTED
thatubuntuguy#5914: AIO DETECTED
thatubuntuguy#5914: AIO DETECTED |
thatubuntuguy#5914: BE GONE AIO
Deleted User#0000: @thatubuntuguy I dont like it either, but first time having one
thatubuntuguy#5914: i was taking the piss
thatubuntuguy#5914: clean build tho
Deleted User#0000: 👌
thatubuntuguy#5914: what case?
thatubuntuguy#5914: looks like my matrexx but better
Deleted User#0000: Fractal design, but idk what model, I bought it second hand for £10
thatubuntuguy#5914: damn that's a good deal
Deleted User#0000: it's got sound dampened side panels
thatubuntuguy#5914: you got screwless drive bays and non pop out expansion slot placeholders
Deleted User#0000: yeah
thatubuntuguy#5914: yeah i got sound dampening on the glass side, not the other metal side
Deleted User#0000: It had a six drive bay expansion which I removed
Deleted User#0000: I dont have a glass side |
Deleted User#0000: it's all metal
thatubuntuguy#5914: fair enough
Deleted User#0000: it's even got sound dampening tiles to put over fan holes
thatubuntuguy#5914: shit
thatubuntuguy#5914: £10
TheFifthAce#4128: @Salad that power supply is cringe
thatubuntuguy#5914: very cool
thatubuntuguy#5914: zebronics..
thatubuntuguy#5914: i know that brand
TheFifthAce#4128: very cringe
thatubuntuguy#5914: it's moderately large in india
thatubuntuguy#5914: they make pretty much anything pc related
thatubuntuguy#5914: they have their own motherboards as well
thatubuntuguy#5914: their psus weigh like three grams :haha:
Deleted User#0000: Eeee |
Deleted User#0000: I love power supplies which weight less then the small strand of ketchup and mustard cables attached to them
Deleted User#0000: which can provide 750w
TheFifthAce#4128: "can provide"
TheFifthAce#4128: you mean
Deleted User#0000: but can only prove "400w max"
TheFifthAce#4128: will explode in the process
Deleted User#0000: and they cant even do 400w
TheFifthAce#4128: they claim 400w on the 12v then like 300w on the 5v
TheFifthAce#4128: :kok:
Deleted User#0000: do you know asus power supplies exist?
Deleted User#0000: like grey models
TheFifthAce#4128: well asus doesnt make them
TheFifthAce#4128: they just rebrand them
Deleted User#0000: well asus branded ones then
TheFifthAce#4128: they only asus power supply I would touch are the G or U series |
Deleted User#0000: Fsp and delta are some of the only good grey power supplies
TheFifthAce#4128: http://www.pc-specs.com/psu/Asus/Asus_G-850HA_850W/2100
Deleted User#0000: and I still wouldnt pair them with a gpu
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.pc-specs.com/psu/Asus/Asus_U-65GA_650W/2071
TheFifthAce#4128: these power supplies are fine
TheFifthAce#4128: they're 80+ bronze delta units
Deleted User#0000: so are FSP
TheFifthAce#4128: fsp makes some garbage units occasionally
TheFifthAce#4128: but they're generally good
TheFifthAce#4128: delta and seasonic I trust for basically anything
Deleted User#0000: @TheFifthAce I can agree theren
Deleted User#0000: I bought 6 fsp group units which were 500w
Deleted User#0000: but they all performed well
Deleted User#0000: But one of them was just missing a on and off switch
Deleted User#0000: it was just gone |
JadeWasTaken#6479: i got a ryzen 3 1200 and i need to overclock it but ive been told that the stock cooler isn't going to be good enough so can anyone recommend me a cheep but good enough one
TheFifthAce#4128: gammax 400
TheFifthAce#4128: goes down to 15$ all the time
JustinXenyx#8854: @JadeWasTaken Whoever told you that is wrong
JustinXenyx#8854: The stock coolers for most Ryzen chips are definitely capable of handling a light overclock, with the R3 1200 you could probably go to 4Ghz at 1.3v (just a example) without issues
JadeWasTaken#6479: i was going to overclock it as much as i could because it only a first gen so is it going to be able to handle it
JustinXenyx#8854: Realistically you wouldn't get above 4Ghz anyway unless you want to overvolt it to shit
JustinXenyx#8854: So yeah, it should handle it with no absurd voltages
JadeWasTaken#6479: ok thanks
TheFifthAce#4128: the r3 1200 should be able to oc fine on the stealth
TheFifthAce#4128: it's 4 cores lmao
TheFifthAce#4128: it doesnt output much heat
TheFifthAce#4128: but yeah, 4ghz @ 1.3v is a good start
Jam#0384: I wouldn’t go much above 1.3V- on pretty much anything tbh
tdp2612#3835: also id say f youre on a budget for a cooler, the last thing you should do is test how far you can overclock it and then blow it up, as you probably dont wanna spend the money on replacing it |
TheFifthAce#4128: @Jam zen is generally safe up to 1.4v
TheFifthAce#4128: just buy a key for 8$ dude
TheFifthAce#4128: we're not gonna show you how to pirate windows
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Windows-10-Pro-Key-Retail-Upgrade-Windows-10-Home-to-Pro-Key-Instant-Delivery/401892617476?hash=item5d92aaad04:g:9gMAAOSwNCJdhTta
MythologicalZ#3752: Zen 1 is safe up until 1.4v under 75c
Salad#8886: @MythologicalZ
Salad#8886: help...
Salad#8886: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/655696048303374346/Screenshot_2920.png
Salad#8886: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/655696054922117120/Screenshot_2922.png
Salad#8886: in the AMD website, Windows 8 is missing
Salad#8886: in both specification list and driver list
Salad#8886: im running windows 8 😰
Salad#8886: does my OS support rx 550??
Lady Mipha#0611: yes @Salad
Salad#8886: thanks... and what about the drivers? |
Lady Mipha#0611: try using the windows 7 ones @Salad
TheFifthAce#4128: >using windows 8
Salad#8886: oh ok
Salad#8886: thanks
MagiWasTaken#4357: @TheFifthAce Sorry was super tired yesterday and couldn't figure out why the windows key didn't work on my system and then I passed out on my desk and tried again this morning and it worked. Super weird^^
Deleted User#0000: I know it's a really stupid question but since I'm very new and just wanna go safe, is it seriously safe to just spray on the GPU while cleaning the thermal paste?
A example of what I'm trying to say
https://youtu.be/XITGotXK1pc?t=190
Like, wouldn't what he sprayed damage something?
JustinXenyx#8854: I don't know what liquid was being used by Budget, but i know that he isn't just spraying straight up water on there, probably some form of isopropyl alcohol + water mix
tdp2612#3835: yeah i mean the better quality alcohol the better, get like 90+ and just let it dry off
Deleted User#0000: Wait, you're saying there's liquids that don't damage electronics?
tdp2612#3835: i mean in theory, you could clean with water if you dried it very well
JustinXenyx#8854: @Deleted User Yes we are
Deleted User#0000: Huh, well all I know is the usual "water damages electrical stuff and it may harm you so dont spill it!!!" |
JustinXenyx#8854: I've literally washed down graphics cards with pure water and after they dried out they were like brand new. I am absolutely against this as the card had to dry for a LONG time to get completely dry
tdp2612#3835: ^^^
Deleted User#0000: Damn, so isopropyl alcohol is the best you can use to clean up thermal paste on GPUs?
tdp2612#3835: i mean its probably not *the* best
tdp2612#3835: but it works, its cheap, it dries fast
JustinXenyx#8854: If we talk thermal paste removal, just get a micro-fiber cloth with IPA and that should get you sorted
JustinXenyx#8854: Why go complicated, when simple does it aswell?
Deleted User#0000: I just wanna use something that does it's job, but don't wanna end up completely damaging a GPU lol
tdp2612#3835: yeah then alcohols the way
Deleted User#0000: Also, since as I said before I'm very new, what exactly is IPA?
JustinXenyx#8854: short for isopropyl alcohol
tdp2612#3835: ipa Iso Propyl Alcohol
Deleted User#0000: I googled it up but it's just throwing scientific words at me and beer images lol
tdp2612#3835: yeah IPA is beer too
Deleted User#0000: Imagine cleaning a gpu with beer |
tdp2612#3835: well i say 'beer', its more weird stuff
JustinXenyx#8854: Typing out isopropyl alcohol is a pain in the ass all the time, so i usually go with IPA
Deleted User#0000: Well if it works, it certainly is something nice
Deleted User#0000: Well yea I undestand that
BigPierogi#3368: i use some alcohol for cleaning thermal paste
BigPierogi#3368: vodka i think
BigPierogi#3368: because i didnt have ipa
tdp2612#3835: :DickPick:
JustinXenyx#8854: Vodka is unironically also something i've used because of the semi-high alcohol content
Deleted User#0000: Nice
Deleted User#0000: Also, when buying parts from Ebay, what should I usually ask the seller before buying?
tdp2612#3835: eh i mean its just ipa but half as strong really isnt it
Deleted User#0000: Someone told me to ask them mainly for how long they were used
Deleted User#0000: Sorry for switching up topics
JustinXenyx#8854: Not really something you should ask, you should rather ask what the card has been used for |
tdp2612#3835: ask how it runs, how loud fans are, has it been used in a server or mining rig,
tdp2612#3835: has it been ran overclocked all its life, has it been regularly cleaned
JustinXenyx#8854: Exactly, because constantly mining for 20 hours is a lot more GPU intensive than running for 20 hours "regularly", while only 5 of those were gaming and the rest was video playback/youtube
BigPierogi#3368: so he only gets 4 hours of sleep is the conclusion>
Deleted User#0000: Alright, sounds good, thanks for the help I appreciate it!
Deleted User#0000: Oh actually one more thing
Deleted User#0000: If I put thermal paste on a CPU or a GPU, what if the thermal paste gets out a bit, would that be a problem?
BigPierogi#3368: if its not conductive like liquid metal
BigPierogi#3368: its fine
tdp2612#3835: it shoudlnt be, but if it spills out, youve probabl put too much on
JustinXenyx#8854: Not entirely true @BigPierogi
BigPierogi#3368: well
BigPierogi#3368: if its not electrically conductive
BigPierogi#3368: it should be fine
BigPierogi#3368: most of the time |
tdp2612#3835: most have a low conductivity, but not 0
JustinXenyx#8854: A lot of modern thermal paste is not electrically conductive, some is electrically conductive but will state that
Deleted User#0000: Was mainly asking because for example I put on the fan for the CPU, and I move around the fan a bit before fully putting it on
BigPierogi#3368: just put like a pea sized amount
BigPierogi#3368: or rice size
Deleted User#0000: I've heard about the X/+ technique it's not as reliable as the pea sized amount right?
BigPierogi#3368: x?
tdp2612#3835: whats the X/+ ive never heard of that
BigPierogi#3368: ive never heard of that
tdp2612#3835: is that like going across with a line of it
Deleted User#0000: Like when you put the thermal paste, you do it like a X or a +
Deleted User#0000: Yea
tdp2612#3835: because thats a terrible idea
JustinXenyx#8854: Thermal paste can be applied in a number of ways, i just go with a decent pea because that's the most efficient way
BigPierogi#3368: you want it in the middle so that it spreads evenly |
Deleted User#0000: I've heard it in some videos
Deleted User#0000: Where they'd probably do that so that's what got me wondering
BigPierogi#3368: wait
BigPierogi#3368: X
BigPierogi#3368: ISNT THAT FOR THREADRIPPER
JustinXenyx#8854: Countless testing has myself concluded to that the method does absolutely not matter for most consumer processors
Deleted User#0000: I'll keep it real with you chief, I've heard about threadripper but what the hell is that
tdp2612#3835: i guess thats a bit special then, not really needed for your average build
BigPierogi#3368: very powerful cpu
JustinXenyx#8854: @Deleted User Essentially Ryzen with a lot more cores and features
tdp2612#3835: very, *very* high end amd cpus
Deleted User#0000: Oh
BigPierogi#3368: i think its at the top of benchmarks
BigPierogi#3368: right now
BigPierogi#3368: but i could be wrong |
tdp2612#3835: probably will stay that way for a few months
Deleted User#0000: It confuses the hell out of me with how GPUs and CPUs are named tbh
tdp2612#3835: nah threadripper makes sense
tdp2612#3835: lots of threads, absolute powerhouse
Deleted User#0000: Rips a lot of threads
Deleted User#0000: Also, what about intel CPU
BigPierogi#3368: btw
Deleted User#0000: I know K is where you can't overclock
BigPierogi#3368: never use user benchmark
Deleted User#0000: What about S and the other stuff
BigPierogi#3368: just at ip
BigPierogi#3368: tip*
Deleted User#0000: What do you mean by user benchmark?
BigPierogi#3368: a benchmarking website
Deleted User#0000: Ooh |
BigPierogi#3368: not really reliable
Deleted User#0000: Like "can you run it?" or "game-debate"
BigPierogi#3368: and innacurate a lot of the times
BigPierogi#3368: kinda
Deleted User#0000: Yea, I feel like it's a joke I still even looked at them a few weeks earlier
Deleted User#0000: Got my pc upgraded, and putted the specs of the stuff I upgraded into one of those websites, told me I can run the game at medium graphics, yet I can run it at almost ultra
Deleted User#0000: Well anyway, I feel like I've got most of my questions answered, so I definitely appreciate that, hope you guys have a good day!
tdp2612#3835: :thumbsupcat:
Deleted User#0000: Actually when saying "most" I'll probably have even more questions later on
Deleted User#0000: But yeh, thanks
DarknessFalls229#2286: @thatubuntuguy enlighten me
thatubuntuguy#5914: alrighty, do you have the bios image you want to flash
thatubuntuguy#5914: is the motherboard bricked or something
thatubuntuguy#5914: bad flash?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Well, mobo is bricked indeed, cant get it to start. Imma try bios reflash before i try my 690 |
thatubuntuguy#5914: if you have a bad flash, you don't need to backup the bios that's already present on the chip
thatubuntuguy#5914: i highly recommend using flashrom on a linux live usb to flash the bios instead of any shite on windows
DarknessFalls229#2286: This is what i got from the medion website https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/655800691838812191/20191215_165717.jpg
thatubuntuguy#5914: yeah don't use that shite
thatubuntuguy#5914: that E7728MLN.209 looks liek the image
DarknessFalls229#2286: Then what do i use?
thatubuntuguy#5914: flashrom on a linux live usb
thatubuntuguy#5914: you have a ch341a_spi programmer yes?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Yes
DarknessFalls229#2286: Dont really wanna do linux
thatubuntuguy#5914: okay, download ubuntu or smth and burn it to usb
thatubuntuguy#5914: you don't need to install it onto hdd, just on a usb will be enough
DarknessFalls229#2286: Still
DarknessFalls229#2286: Cant do it in windows?
thatubuntuguy#5914: it's not advisable |
thatubuntuguy#5914: you can use a flashrom live cd
thatubuntuguy#5914: https://www.flashrom.org/Live_CD
DarknessFalls229#2286: Not advisable, so i can use it anyway?
thatubuntuguy#5914: you can download system rescue cd and burn it to a usb
thatubuntuguy#5914: i mean technically but i don't have much experience with windows tools
thatubuntuguy#5914: it's just easier and ultimately more reliable to use linux
thatubuntuguy#5914: systemrescuecd is small
thatubuntuguy#5914: about 800mb
thatubuntuguy#5914: burn it to a 2 gig usb and you're good to go
DarknessFalls229#2286: Well, i already have the software open and ive "read" the bios
DarknessFalls229#2286: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/655801672316223532/20191215_170137.jpg
thatubuntuguy#5914: you need to use a special software on windows in order to write the bios using a ch341a
thatubuntuguy#5914: which from what i've heard is totally garbage
thatubuntuguy#5914: flashrom is much easier
DarknessFalls229#2286: Does freedos work? Got that on hand on a usb |
thatubuntuguy#5914: possibly
thatubuntuguy#5914: there's a dos build for it
thatubuntuguy#5914: i dont understand why you don't want to burn a linux usb
DarknessFalls229#2286: Cause i already have everything set up
thatubuntuguy#5914: it'll take you less time than trying to find another way to do it than to just download a usb
DarknessFalls229#2286: I dont want to go through the effort to get a linux envoronment on my computer
thatubuntuguy#5914: i know, but you don't need to "set" anything up for flashrom
thatubuntuguy#5914: you don't need to install it tho
thatubuntuguy#5914: just burn it, boot off it and bobs your uncle
thatubuntuguy#5914: you don't need to set anything up
thatubuntuguy#5914: ubuntu iso
thatubuntuguy#5914: on usb
thatubuntuguy#5914: install flashrom with a simple apt install
DarknessFalls229#2286: So i need to set up a ubuntu usb?
thatubuntuguy#5914: sudo flashrom --programmer -w biosname.bin |
thatubuntuguy#5914: that's one command and it'll write the bios to the chip
thatubuntuguy#5914: yeah
DarknessFalls229#2286: So i DO need to set something up...
thatubuntuguy#5914: dude
thatubuntuguy#5914: it's literally downloading an iso
thatubuntuguy#5914: and burning it to a usb
thatubuntuguy#5914: it's dead easy
DarknessFalls229#2286: Just tell me how to do it on windows
DarknessFalls229#2286: Dont have a free usb anyway
DarknessFalls229#2286: Besides, do i even have the right bios file?
thatubuntuguy#5914: if you don't it's not an issue
DarknessFalls229#2286: Well, dont i need to write to it?
thatubuntuguy#5914: just reflash using the correct one next time
thatubuntuguy#5914: if you downloaded it from the manufacturer then probably yes
thatubuntuguy#5914: flashrom on windows is harder, you need to mess with usb drivers to get spi working over usb |
thatubuntuguy#5914: well yes
thatubuntuguy#5914: im saying it's easy to just reflash if you messed something up
thatubuntuguy#5914: because you have a programmer
thatubuntuguy#5914: just copy the files off a usb you have atm
thatubuntuguy#5914: burn ubuntu onto it
thatubuntuguy#5914: boot ubuntu, install flashrom and run the one command with the bios file copied onto the usb
thatubuntuguy#5914: @DarknessFalls229 you burning ubuntu then?
thatubuntuguy#5914: the clip is quite hard to mount correctly as you'll have probably found already
Deleted User#0000: I have a question regarding HDDs, I have a old HDD that has some pictures I need to recover, can I simply just get a HDD cable to usb or something and plug it to the pc
Deleted User#0000: I've seen videos of it, but they always used a small version of a HDD
Deleted User#0000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajgpOKAg1IU
Deleted User#0000: Like this one
JustinXenyx#8854: Connector is the exact same, so yeah you can just use those SATA to USB adapters
JustinXenyx#8854: but keep in mind, they will be slower than directly connecting them via SATA or USB 3 for that matter
JustinXenyx#8854: most of those cheaper adapters are USB2 only |
Deleted User#0000: SATA/USB 3 is used when they're placed inside the computer correct?
tdp2612#3835: sata only
tdp2612#3835: usb only comes into play with external
Deleted User#0000: Ah alright, thanks!
tdp2612#3835: or you could run it 'externally' if you had a sata cable going into the case, but that would be a mess
tony#0083: hey guys
tony#0083: so i have 2, 8g sticks of ram
tony#0083: 1600hz each
tony#0083: they are in dual
tony#0083: and running in 1333 hz
tony#0083: but when i cxhange in the bbias to 1600 hz
tony#0083: it gos from dal channel to single
tony#0083: any idea why?
tony#0083: plis jelp
russ_the_b#5525: are you sure they are both 1600? |
Jam#0384: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/655933029973360695/image0.jpg
SuSSudio#2688: 1.6ghz idle, interesting
SuSSudio#2688: my Q9450 idles at 2.0ghz
Jam#0384: Q9450 is better cpu iirc
Jam#0384: Just not cool status
tony#0083: @russ_the_b i fixed it :)
tony#0083: But now the problem im having is that im trying to oc the ram but it wont let me more than 1600
tony#0083: a guy who made a guide about it said to get it higher than 1600mhz you needed to disabke xmp
tony#0083: But i cant find that feature
RiIey#0001: I know this is the wrong chat, but what is the network security number? I thought it was the S/N but I need to know what it is. Ty
IRON MAIDEN#4184: Idk but sn is serial number
Capsaicin Chips#4051: I decided to take my mother's advice and save up my money for until after Christmas so that I can get for a graphics card. What would pair well with an i7-8700k (I do understand that it's not the best performance to cost value, but I got it brand new as a gift. Also, I cannot sell it in exchange for a Ryzen processor.)?
SuSSudio#2688: "I can't sell it in exchange for a ryzen system"
Well you can, problem is, who would want to trade their zen rig for an intel one. |
As for gpu choice, you can pick GTX 1660 Super* 6GB or the RX 5500 XT 8GB
Capsaicin Chips#4051: As in, I can't sell the CPU so that I could buy a Zen one. The option to sell it is unavailable to me currently
Capsaicin Chips#4051: And I will look into the GPU choices. Thank you!
Alcyone#2233: 8700k is a strong gaming cpu. The best gpu you can afford would be the answer
Jam#0384: Yeah theres nothing wrong with the 8700K. It doesn’t have the most cores but it isn’t limited to just 4 either so it’s fine
TheFifthAce#4128: @Capsaicin Chips idk what dio is talking about but you can pair basically any gpu with that 8700k
TheFifthAce#4128: 5500 xt 8gb is bad value
TheFifthAce#4128: 1660 super is good value but you could get something better if you have a higher budget
Capsaicin Chips#4051: Alrighty, I will assess the budget I have and see what GPU I can buy
SuSSudio#2688: Closest to 8GB 5500XT is the last gen 8GB RX 580, value is insane for what it is if you don't mind power consumption
SuSSudio#2688: tbf 8G RX 5500XT is a sweet card if it wasn't due to the prices
SuSSudio#2688: Also i didn't mention 8700K maxed out with those video cards, my suggestion was solely based on the cards price/perf. like folks above me said, 8700K is a strong gaming cpu, will take even the highest end cards on the market without too much bottlenecks
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce 5500XT 8GB really that bad huh?
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx it's 200$ for 580 performance |
TheFifthAce#4128: meanwhile 1660 super goes down to 210$ for almost 1070 ti perf
JustinXenyx#8854: That's a big yikes from AMD
TheFifthAce#4128: @SuSSudio yeah but its shit lol
SuSSudio#2688: Can't deny that
TheFifthAce#4128: 1650 super outperforms it sometimes
JustinXenyx#8854: I still hope the 5500XT gets kicked to like sub-RX570 pricing and then we have something like a RX5600/XT compete with 1660 Super etc, because this 5500XT really isn't doing the job
JustinXenyx#8854: Even the 1650 Super seems like a better value than the 5500XT right now
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx because it is
TheFifthAce#4128: nvidia has the best options at the 150-225$ price point
TheFifthAce#4128: amd has 80-150$ and 250-400$
Alcyone#2233: 5500xt is total bust, only reason I could see to get it over a polaris would be itx where the lower heat output might make a difference, at that point Id just get a 1660s though.
TheFifthAce#4128: if it gets down to the 150ish pricepoint I could see it
TheFifthAce#4128: but as is, its not good value
DarknessFalls229#2286: ^^
JustinXenyx#8854: which is essentially what i meant by sub-570 pricing |
TheFifthAce#4128: unless you like, have a hate boner for nvidia
TheFifthAce#4128: and even then, used rx 580/590
JustinXenyx#8854: If the 4GB versions get kicked down to like 125 new and the 8GB versions go to like 150 USD new then i could see the 5500XT being semi-decent
JustinXenyx#8854: They probably have a pricing issue with Polaris being their own competition right now
Alcyone#2233: they might be waiting for existing polaris stock to dwindle before cutting prices
JustinXenyx#8854: Exactly
JustinXenyx#8854: From a business perspective they basically had to shoot themselves in the foot with the bad 5500XT pricing
JustinXenyx#8854: Once the current polaris stock is getting lower and lower i'd reckon the 5500XT pricing would take a decent cut
Alcyone#2233: Even ignoring the used market you can get a brand new 580 8gb, which is about the same performance wise for $60-80 less. Or a decent 1660S for about $20 more which is noticeably faster
Alcyone#2233: They need a 5600 that is faster than polaris and competitive with small turing at around the $200 price point to make it a compelling move for anyone building pc themselves
tony#0083: hey guys
tony#0083: i have a question
tony#0083: in terms of overclocking how far can you gon on voltage?
JustinXenyx#8854: Depends on the thing you want to overclock
tdp2612#3835: And how willing you are to buy a replacement if you push too far |
IRON MAIDEN#4184: what if i want to OC a 3700X and 5700XT red devil
JustinXenyx#8854: OCing a 3700X is dumb because the desktop Ryzen 3000 chips are basically at their maximum when it comes to clockspeeds
IRON MAIDEN#4184: oof
what about 5700XT then?
JustinXenyx#8854: I think @TheFifthAce as a RX5700 owner can tell you more about that
TheFifthAce#4128: hi
TheFifthAce#4128: you can OC a bit, get about 4-5 fps more
TheFifthAce#4128: 5700's can be unlocked with an XT bios to get almost XT perf for free
TheFifthAce#4128: I found the most beneficial thing to do is just auto undervolt, it'll keep the same performance while drawing less heat and staying quieter
IRON MAIDEN#4184: k thx
tony#0083: hi
tony#0083: so
tony#0083: im working with a fx-8320
tony#0083: rn im at 4.5mhz |
tony#0083: with 1.5v
tony#0083: and with stock cooler so things are getting hot
JustinXenyx#8854: 4.5Mhz? That is faster than a 486!
JustinXenyx#8854: Jokes aside, 4.5Ghz at 1.5V is pretty high
JustinXenyx#8854: i wouldn't go any further than 1.5V on AM3+ if you have a decent board
JustinXenyx#8854: If you board is a mediocre board then turn that voltage down, it's not safe for your motherboard to operate that chip with that high of a voltage
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Hey, so uh I need help
Rysing Dragoon#5628: I recently installed my SSD and kinda got my files back
Rysing Dragoon#5628: By kinda I mean like I have to redownload them to get them back
tony#0083: my board is perfect for am3+ oc
tony#0083: gigabyte 990fxa-ud5
Rysing Dragoon#5628: I tried playing terraria earlier but it ran like complete ass, which it never does that
Rysing Dragoon#5628: I have an RX 480 and a Ryzen 1200
tony#0083: ssaw a guy going up to 5.1hz
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh yeah, then your cooler is the issue @tony |
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Can anyone help me out with this issue?
tony#0083: i was thinking bewtwin MASTERAIR MA620P or Deep Cool Gammaxx GT TGA RGB
tony#0083: wdt?
tony#0083: @sh}
JustinXenyx#8854: that MA620P seems massively overpriced in my region, but both are decent coolers
tony#0083: @Rysing Dragoon does your mother have integrated grafics?
Rysing Dragoon#5628: No
tony#0083: @JustinXenyx where are u from my dude?
Rysing Dragoon#5628: I've got an ASRock B450 Pro4
JustinXenyx#8854: @tony Germany
JustinXenyx#8854: @Rysing Dragoon Checked graphics drivers?
tony#0083: im from Argentina
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Hold on
Rysing Dragoon#5628: *oh no*
Rysing Dragoon#5628: *they're not there anymore* |
tony#0083: the air master hhere is cheaper than the deep cool
Rysing Dragoon#5628: Jesus christ, what have I done wrong this time?
tony#0083: any recomendations on coolers? @JustinXenyx
TheFifthAce#4128: I recommend getting off am3
tony#0083: why?
TheFifthAce#4128: because it sucks shit
tony#0083: why
TheFifthAce#4128: sandy bridge is cheaper and destroys it
TheFifthAce#4128: it's missing instruction sets, runs hot, and has terrible IPC
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-vs-AMD-FX-8350/621vs1489
TheFifthAce#4128: sandy bridge fucking destroys it
TheFifthAce#4128: @tony
tony#0083: well
tony#0083: 1dont have the money
tony#0083: 2i like fx |
tony#0083: but thanks for ur opinion
TheFifthAce#4128: why the utter fuck do you like fx
TheFifthAce#4128: its an objectively terrible CPU
tony#0083: well
tony#0083: i get good fps
tony#0083: it always amazed me
tony#0083: and now i have a 1060 6gb
tony#0083: and i oc the fx
tony#0083: its foken briliant m8
tony#0083: all i need now is new cooler and ram
tony#0083: i got my eye on some really cheap not opened 32gb 2400mhz crosshar ram
tony#0083: kit*
tony#0083: not sure about the cooler tho
BigPierogi#3368: well id reccomend upgrade as soon as possible
BigPierogi#3368: like save up |
BigPierogi#3368: like i am
BigPierogi#3368: im trying to get off my fx 4350
TheFifthAce#4128: FX is objectively awful, you'd have much better FPS on sandy bridge @tony
TheFifthAce#4128: It's generally 30% slower than the 2600k when compared at similar clockspeeds
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Im not getting a display output on my monitor
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: And i JUST built my new gaming pc.......
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: And its not even giving an output
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Anyone know how to fix this?
BigPierogi#3368: are you sure all the cables are plugged in correctly
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Yes im sure
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: I will check again just to be safe
BigPierogi#3368: Try to reseat your ram next
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Alright
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Ok reseated it
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Turned it on and it still dosent display anything |
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: It was the hard drive from my pwntium pc
BigPierogi#3368: can you send a image of your pc
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: I tried it
BigPierogi#3368: like inside
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: And it never displayed anything in that either
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Ok
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/656308164257513472/20191216_203354.jpg
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Gtx 1050TI OC btw
BigPierogi#3368: is there no power cable going into the 1050ti?
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: They dont have power conectors
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: I think
BigPierogi#3368: also are you sure that cpu power doesnt say pci on it
BigPierogi#3368: just wondering
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Im 99% positive they get all the power they need from the PCI-E alot
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Slot* |
BigPierogi#3368: im talking
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Ok
BigPierogi#3368: the power connector next to the cpu
BigPierogi#3368: what does that say
BigPierogi#3368: cpu?
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: It says CPU
BigPierogi#3368: ok
BigPierogi#3368: just making sure
BigPierogi#3368: someitmes people put the pcie connector in the cpu connector
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Its a 8 pin CPU connector
BigPierogi#3368: im assuming the fans spin
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: They do
BigPierogi#3368: try clearing the cmos battery
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: One of my case fans dosent bc i cant find the other system fan
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: How do i clear it? |
BigPierogi#3368: take out the cmos battery
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Ok
BigPierogi#3368: and put it back in
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Need to take out my GPU bc its behind it
BigPierogi#3368: also what cpu is it
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Ryzen 5 2600
BigPierogi#3368: ok
BigPierogi#3368: if it was apu you could test the gpu built in
BigPierogi#3368: but it doesnt have one
BigPierogi#3368: also how long do you let it sit for
BigPierogi#3368: before you turn it back off
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Like 3 minutes
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Cmos is back in
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Gpu is back in
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Now im gonna turn it on and see what happens |
BigPierogi#3368: make sure its slotted back in properly
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: It is
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Turned it on
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Keyboard lights up
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: And thats about it
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Nothing has shown up on the monitor yet
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Still nothing
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Im thinking its the hard drive
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Since it wasnt booting on my old pentium G630 pc either
BigPierogi#3368: do you have another drive to boot off
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: No
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: I might take put the ssd in my laptop tho
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Out*
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: If its not adheisive on the bottom
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Then ill just buy an SSD |
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Im just gonna let it sit
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: And see if its done anything when i get back to it
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Still never did anything
BigPierogi#3368: @Tech Helper can you help him please
SuSSudio#2688: @DukeTheBadDragon If your pc doesnt show display output it doesn't have anything to do with hard drive
BigPierogi#3368: Not entirely true
BigPierogi#3368: My brother had a slow ass hdd and it took like 2 minutes to get to the bios
BigPierogi#3368: And when he got his ssd
BigPierogi#3368: He got to the bios very quick
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: It has stuff already on it
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: So it hink thags why
SuSSudio#2688: Ok take out everything from the hard drive & try if it works
SuSSudio#2688: plug off everything from the hard drive & turn it back on
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Im going buy a 500GB SSD as my last effory
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Effort* |
SuSSudio#2688: I'm trying to make sure
SuSSudio#2688: try to boot bios without your hard drive connected
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Hard drive is disconected
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: And its still not displaying anything
SuSSudio#2688: right
SuSSudio#2688: it's not only your hard drive
SuSSudio#2688: try reseat everything except CPU & have the CMOS reset by reseating the cmos battery
SuSSudio#2688: Don't connect the hard drive & power it on, leave it for several minutes
SuSSudio#2688: Usually a new ryzen system might take a little while to display during the first time
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Already tried reseating everything
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Ill turn it back on and let it sit
SuSSudio#2688: yes
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Without the drive connected
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: How long does it take for a new Ryzen system to boot?
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Like 5-10 minutes? |
SuSSudio#2688: Too long
SuSSudio#2688: actually you don't have to wait like several mins
SuSSudio#2688: A normal system will successfully boot into bios by 15 secs
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Well its WAY past that now oof
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Idk why its not
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Ii legit just built it TODAY
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Idk whats wrong with it
Jam#0384: Why am I not tech helper
Jam#0384: I just realized this
Jam#0384: :Xdxdxd:
SuSSudio#2688: cause you're not :Hahahahaha:
Jam#0384: That's tough
SuSSudio#2688: But yeah ask some mods to get it to you
russ_the_b#5525: wait
russ_the_b#5525: is its a b350 mobo? |
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: B450M i think
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Idk but aomeone told me they are faulty
russ_the_b#5525: and a ryzen 3 cpu?
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Ryzen 5
Jam#0384: Zen, Zen+, or Zen 2?
russ_the_b#5525: ^
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: What?
Jam#0384: Which gen
russ_the_b#5525: what the full name of the cpu
SuSSudio#2688: R5 2600
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Its a 2600
Jam#0384: Okay, so there shouldn't be an issue there
Jam#0384: Have you looked into memory compatibility
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: My pc isnt even displaying anything
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Thats the issues im having |
Jam#0384: Does it beep
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: No
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: I dont think it does
Jam#0384: Are you using a dedicated graphics card
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Yes
SuSSudio#2688: 1050 ti
Jam#0384: Have you tried a different video port
russ_the_b#5525: is the bios up to date?
Jam#0384: Are the PCIe power cables plugged in if it has them? Have you tried reseating the RAM or taking one stick out at a time?
SuSSudio#2688: A B450m will easily detect r5 2600 right away
Jam#0384: Is the CPU correctly placed in the socket, IE no bent pins
Jam#0384: Is the PSU turned on lmao
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Yes
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Lmao
SuSSudio#2688: :trolled: |
Jam#0384: Yes to all of them
Jam#0384: ?
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Yes
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Everything is fine
Jam#0384: do you have any other discrete graphics cards
Jam#0384: even a shit one
russ_the_b#5525: just use the igpu
Jam#0384: It doesn't have one
Jam#0384: Only the Ryzen-G processors have APUs
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Everything is brand spanking new
Jam#0384: I know but that doesn't mean it works
russ_the_b#5525: i forgot bout that
Jam#0384: Do you have any other GPUs
Jam#0384: shit or not
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: No |
Jam#0384: Ok, then that's not very helpful
Jam#0384: Try a different PCIe x16 slot?
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Ok
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Oof i cang
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Cables block it
Jam#0384: bro why do you have cables in front of the motherboard
Jam#0384: they go behind the tray
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Ik
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: But the connectors block then
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Either way it wouldnt fit
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Im gonna buy a 500GB SSD and see what that does
TheFifthAce#4128: @DukeTheBadDragon ryzen first boot takes 6-10 minutes
Jam#0384: It took seconds for me
TheFifthAce#4128: it took 3 minutes for my first boot
TheFifthAce#4128: its pretty random |
TheFifthAce#4128: but for ryzen builds I always recommend waiting about 10 minutes for display
IRON MAIDEN#4184: 10 minutes???
IRON MAIDEN#4184: My pentium 2 boots 1000x faster than that
TheFifthAce#4128: first boot
TheFifthAce#4128: u nonce
Alcyone#2233: yeah? Well if your pentium is so good, why was there no pentium II eh? checkmate nerd
IRON MAIDEN#4184: ... there were atleast 6 pentiums...
IRON MAIDEN#4184: 1,2,3,4,M,D
RiIey#0001: Read my name. What should I upgrade? I have a 700W psu
SuSSudio#2688: everything
RiIey#0001: i want specifics
RiIey#0001: I have like $400 AU if you want budget
SuSSudio#2688: >3230
SuSSudio#2688: isn't that an i3, which is dual core
RiIey#0001: its an i7 aswell |
RiIey#0001: unless memory is bad
SuSSudio#2688: no
SuSSudio#2688: i5
RiIey#0001: well ik its an i7
RiIey#0001: its like a i7 32 something
SuSSudio#2688: it's an i5 3230m
SuSSudio#2688: and that is a mobile part
RiIey#0001: ok
SuSSudio#2688: check your sys information
RiIey#0001: i have shit memory
RiIey#0001: im not waking up my parents to see specs
RiIey#0001: lmao
RiIey#0001: but if i remember
SuSSudio#2688: wait is ur pc a jet engine lmao
RiIey#0001: it has 6 cores and its like 3.6ghz |
RiIey#0001: @SuSSudio no but I am
SuSSudio#2688: Ok sounds like an lga 1366
RiIey#0001: sounds right
SuSSudio#2688: Welp the cpu is still decently packed, so a GPU will be the first thing to upgrade
SuSSudio#2688: get like an RX 580 8GB
SuSSudio#2688: how much is that in auz
RiIey#0001: ok i think i know the cpu now
RiIey#0001: its a i7 3820 i think
RiIey#0001: ok ill look that upin aus
SuSSudio#2688: Nice, 3820, LGA 2011
SuSSudio#2688: No need to upgrade, unless you're noticing stutters in heavy games
RiIey#0001: RX 580 is like $250 to $350
SuSSudio#2688: cop it
SuSSudio#2688: Powercolor or Sapphire should be good
RiIey#0001: ok might cop |
RiIey#0001: what about cpu
SuSSudio#2688: CPU is fine currently, no need to change
RiIey#0001: kk
RiIey#0001: what about ram? I have like 16GB DDR3
SuSSudio#2688: 16GB is still freakin hefty
SuSSudio#2688: sure you can go 32GB, but 16GB is more than adequate
RiIey#0001: OK
RiIey#0001: and, well, 3TB of storage is plenty enough
RiIey#0001: I mean i could switch to SSD but idk really
SuSSudio#2688: SSD for OS is strongly recommended
SuSSudio#2688: you will get much quicker booting time, thus making the overall performance better
RiIey#0001: could probably cop a 256GB for like 80 bucks
SuSSudio#2688: mhm
RiIey#0001: yeah 80 to 100
RiIey#0001: and then 50 bucks left for a monitor... but that thing is like $250 so lets not upgrade that yet |
SuSSudio#2688: yeah save for later
RiIey#0001: ok
RiIey#0001: ty for the help
SuSSudio#2688: np
RiIey#0001: I'm back guys. I now have an issue with my laptop. My speakers aren't working as they aren't showing sound. They were working perfectly a few weeks ago, and as recently as yesterday. The speakers are on 100%
TheGeekster#8508: does the headphone jack work? is the headphone jack dirty or got something stuck in it?
RiIey#0001: idk ill see
RiIey#0001: looks clean to me
TheGeekster#8508: does it actually work though? it would be good to see if the laptop is actually outputting sound or not
RiIey#0001: wdym by that?
RiIey#0001: ok its telling me in troubleshoot to reinstall drivers
TheGeekster#8508: plug a headphone into the jack, and see if it outputs sound or detects it at all
RiIey#0001: i dont have any headphones which work with sound
RiIey#0001: lmao
RiIey#0001: did try reinstalling the driver but that did not work |
RiIey#0001: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/656429635810099220/Capture.PNG
RiIey#0001: ok im now trying to update drivers
RiIey#0001: brb
RiIey#0001: no luck
SuSSudio#2688: Other than athlon 200ge, what kind of APU that will provide strong web performance & be able to play few esports titles like csgo while consuming no more than 90W?
SuSSudio#2688: Asking cause i'd like to build one with lowest budget possible
JustinXenyx#8854: Athlon 3000G lol
JustinXenyx#8854: The FM2 and FM2+ APUs are fucking garbage because of the low tier FX stuff they use
SuSSudio#2688: yeah i'm aware of that lol
JustinXenyx#8854: If you want to do a APU build and run CS:GO you could basically build a Core 2 Quad system and that would run it better
SuSSudio#2688: 3000G isn't out in the local market atm
SuSSudio#2688: Power consumption is my concern. c2q + video card will easily pass 100W total under load
SuSSudio#2688: meanwhile i have 2 A/Cs + few appliances on at night, those will shut my home dark at any point.
I just wanted to chill with u murican & west euro folks infront of desktop :Hahahahaha: i can have a 500W+ system in my daytime, just not in the night :Stig: |
IRON MAIDEN#4184: for day time just run 3 285s in SLI for that amazing 600+W power need
IRON MAIDEN#4184: i7-4765T? @SuSSudio
JustinXenyx#8854: He said low budget
JustinXenyx#8854: In addition to that he also lives in Indonesia i think, so that processor is gonna be even more expensive than in the US and EU
IRON MAIDEN#4184: Xeon 1230L?
IRON MAIDEN#4184: idk price on xeons
JustinXenyx#8854: @SuSSudio Was it Indonesia or am i bullshitting rn?
SuSSudio#2688: yes @JustinXenyx
JustinXenyx#8854: Ok so, that essentially kicks most modern Intel stuff right off the table as that stuff is gonna be terribly overpriced
SuSSudio#2688: my power company restricted my power allowances to 1300VA through MCB
SuSSudio#2688: indeed i won't go further than-say $180
SuSSudio#2688: I can reuse my recently bought 80 white 400W psu & my 120GB SSD so if i went with 200ge i just had to buy the cpu, mobo & ram.
DarknessFalls229#2286: Question: is fourth gen i-series stuff backwards compatible with third gen stuff and the other way around?
SuSSudio#2688: Totally not
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm, thats what i thought |
SuSSudio#2688: LGA 1150 > LGA 1155
SuSSudio#2688: Also the socket with the least intel skus
SuSSudio#2688: Are haswell memes decent?
SuSSudio#2688: so i just had to slap some decent low tdp video card, talking i3 4xxx
IRON MAIDEN#4184: if u could id find a
Xeon 1230L and a GTX 650
65w+25w
but those might be hard to find there idk
JustinXenyx#8854: They're decent but you'd probably be better off grabbing a 200GE or something similar because they'd end up costing basically the same @SuSSudio
SuSSudio#2688: the board (used H81) is no more than US$28, cpu is around $50
SuSSudio#2688: i don't have to buy a new RAM as they are DDR3
JustinXenyx#8854: @IRON MAIDEN 65w+25w??? Are you fucking mad? Not only does the 650 draw more than 25W but the TDP of the Xeon is a COMPLETELY MADE UP NUMBER!
JustinXenyx#8854: It does NOT AT ALL indicate power draw
IRON MAIDEN#4184: no other way around25 on xeon 65 on 650 |
IRON MAIDEN#4184: Typical TDP: 25 W
JustinXenyx#8854: There's the issue
IRON MAIDEN#4184: Intel Xeon E3-1230L v3 @ 1.80GHz
IRON MAIDEN#4184: 4 cores actually
JustinXenyx#8854: TDP does NOT AT ALL INDICATE POWER DRAW
JustinXenyx#8854: TDP is 100% MADE UP
SuSSudio#2688: actual power consumption could be lower or higher depending on mobo
JustinXenyx#8854: Any company that states TDP should shoot themselves in the fucking head
JustinXenyx#8854: The TDP can be whatever you fucking want it to be
TheGeekster#8508: (there's no universal standard for measuring TDP so it's up to the manufacturers to say what it is, it could be used as a vague indication but actual tests should be looked up online to find out real power consumption)
JustinXenyx#8854: A very vague indication at that
JustinXenyx#8854: The problematic thing is with the term itself: "Thermal Design Power". In reality, this means basically nothing. If the term was something like "Effective Thermal Power" and there were proper thermal measurements conducted with standardized testing equipment that number could be a whole lot more accurate
SuSSudio#2688: yeah solid point
DarknessFalls229#2286: if your motherboard turns on but your CPU stays cold, is that more of an indication that the mobo is dead or the CPU?
JustinXenyx#8854: Doesn't indicate one more than the other @DarknessFalls229 |
JustinXenyx#8854: Could be a dead chip, could be something wrong with power delivery on the mobo, etc
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm okay
TheFifthAce#4128: @SuSSudio get one of those mobile to desktop cpu things
TheFifthAce#4128: they're low power af
SuSSudio#2688: you mean like modded bga>lga 4980HQ?
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah somethin like that
Jam#0384: Dead motherboard is more common but in my own personal experience I’ve had at least 2 dead cpus
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: I have a brand new systen
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: System*
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: And 6-10 minutes to boot?
tdp2612#3835: yeah somethings wrong there
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: My pc just turns on and does nothing after that
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Fans spin and everything
tdp2612#3835: no messages on screen?
tdp2612#3835: nothing plugged in via usb/ disc drive (if there is one) |
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: No
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: My caee cannont have a disc drive
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Case*
tdp2612#3835: but you dont have a usb stick or an sd card or anything in
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: N
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: No
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/656617435591344135/20191217_170246.jpg
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: This is what my monitor says
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: And i HAVE a VGA plugged in
tdp2612#3835: thats just a generic no signal test display thing isn tit
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Yes
tdp2612#3835: when your pc comes on
tdp2612#3835: do you see it load up, or does it just cut to the windows login
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Dosent even show anything
tdp2612#3835: no i mean |
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Not even the gigabyte logo
tdp2612#3835: when it comes on after the 10 minutes
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Lemme time it
tdp2612#3835: timing doesnt matter
tdp2612#3835: its just
tdp2612#3835: when the monitor goes from the no signal screen to showing pc output, do you see the pc booting up, or just the windows start sceen
tdp2612#3835: so do you see the gigabyte logo, windows logo, then start screen, or just start screen
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Nothing
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Nothing shows up
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Ezcept for no signal
tdp2612#3835: you said it boots
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: I never said it boots
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: It should
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: I hear my hard drive fire up
tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/656618355452674068/unknown.png |
tdp2612#3835: that sounds to me like youre saying it just botts slowly
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: I was suprised
tdp2612#3835: test with a different monitor, or try force it to go to vga rather than dvi
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: I didnt think it took 6-10minutes
tdp2612#3835: i feel like it might be a display problem
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: I have a tv
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Never did anything on that either
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: I think its my drive
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Plugged it into my pentium pc
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Still had no display on thag
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: I think its my drive
tdp2612#3835: oh
tdp2612#3835: so its new but busted?
tdp2612#3835: i was sort of assuming nothing could be broken
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: No |
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Its from my pentium system
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: A pentium G630
tdp2612#3835: do you have a spare hard drive to test with
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: No
tdp2612#3835: can you go to :Shit_company: and get one
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Im going buy an SSD
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: I only buy on amazon
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Since i trust it
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Ebay and all that stuff is sketchy to me
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Im going to buy a 500GB SSD off amazon
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Waited 10 minites
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Minutes*
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Never booted
tdp2612#3835: no beeps?
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: My mobo dosent beep i dont think |
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: If it is suposed to beep then it did not
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Should it turn of and turn back on?
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Off*
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Fans turn on and stay spinning
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Nothing else haplens
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Happens*
Deleted User#0000: Can I pair a APU along with a GPU or that wouldn't work?
Deleted User#0000: For example a Ryzen 3 3200g with a RX 570
tdp2612#3835: yeah thats fine
tdp2612#3835: i mean im pretty sure 90% of systems have some sort of igpu with a proper gpu
Deleted User#0000: Also will the APU still be used despite having a GPU when playing games or will it be used like a normal CPU
DukeTheBadDragon#4024: Im still having this issue and its making me super angry
tdp2612#3835: @Deleted User as long as you plug your cables into the gpu not the motherboard ports itll be fine
Deleted User#0000: 👍 thanks
RiIey#0001: Ok, I'm back again, trying to fix my sound on my laptop. I've tried removing and installing drivers, updating drivers, and even switching versions of the driver. I use Realtek Audio If you are wondering. I have no way to know if the laptop is outputting sound. |
Deleted User#0000: im having wan issues
Deleted User#0000: and my router/modem device has jaxk shit for configuration options
TheGeekster#8508: can you describe the issues? Wireless or wired? Does it do it on all devices? Have you checked with the ISP if it does it on multiple devices?
Deleted User#0000: my lan is fine
Deleted User#0000: it's what is outside of it that is the issue
TheGeekster#8508: What *is* the issue?
Deleted User#0000: varying connectivity problems, right now i am getting a dhcp public ip from the isp, i can ping from my computer to that interface (coax) on the modem, but not to the default gateway on the other end
Deleted User#0000: this house was never set up for internet before last friday and it has been nothing but trouble
Deleted User#0000: I can't ping to my home public ip from my work computer, so there is some kind of routing issue here
Deleted User#0000: but this device offers pretty much nothing as far as routing configuration is concerned
TheGeekster#8508: I feel like that's gonna have to be an ISP problem, i doubt there's much we can do, we can look at router > client but not router < isp
Deleted User#0000: the people i have talked to from the isp don't know any more than I do lel
Flannel84#2980: Hey if anyone is around I could use some help here on which crap tablet is better.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/HDMI-Storage-Processor-Ink-Smart-10-1-Micro-Windows-included-Black-Intel-Stylus-Tablet-10-Home-Core-32GB-Cameras-EVOO-Dual-Keyboard/455610609?selected=true |
ERROR: type should be string, got "\nhttps://www.walmart.com/ip/RCA-Cambio-10-1-2-in-1-Quad-Core-Windows-10-Tablet/45804382\n\nI know that they are not great, but they're just a replacement for my mother in-law's like 8 year old net book.\nFlannel84#2980: I cannot find any information in regards to the EVOO, no idea on the resolution or what the processor even is.\nJustinXenyx#8854: RCA is worse, has half the RAM @Flannel84\nJustinXenyx#8854: Processor etc should be rather similar given the price point of both machines\nTheFifthAce#4128: please dont get something with emmc\nLady Mipha#0611: ^^^^^^^^\nTheGeekster#8508: @Flannel84 As the others have said, those two devices are essentially unusable, I'd suggest getting a refurbished laptop with an SSD over either of those\nTheFifthAce#4128: Emmc wears down quickly and becomes unusable and its not upgradable or fixable\nTheFifthAce#4128: get like a thinkpad with an ssd and a sandy i5\nTheFifthAce#4128: or there are hp stream laptops with 120gb ssds that are better than nothing\nYear#0124: Hey\nYear#0124: While i was dusting my pc" |
Year#0124: I lost a screw for the cpu fan
Year#0124: Will something happen to my pc?
thatubuntuguy#5914: @Flannel84 Oh god, both of them are really terrible. Sandy thinkpads are on the cheap, I picked up my Haswell T440P for £120. Just get a T420 or something, swap in an ssd and 8gb ram and it'll last her ages
thatubuntuguy#5914: Emmc wears really fast and it's not upgradeable and it's slow as fuck
thatubuntuguy#5914: I can vouch for T420 as I have one, it's a really solid laptop. The 2520M i5 (most common model iirc) is upgradeable to a beastly quad i7 amid thermal throttling, will take 16gb RAM, fucken three ssds (main 2.5inch bay, optical disk 2.5 inch bay, msata) and is built like a tank
tdp2612#3835: @Year
tdp2612#3835: Should be fine, as long as the rest of them qre still there the fan isnt gonna fall off
Deleted User#0000: my internet problems are just getting weirder
Deleted User#0000: so i daisy chained a 2nd router to the first one, and am getting a perfectly good internet connection on the second one...but only wirelessly
TheGeekster#8508: sounds like main router could be fucked, is it when you try and max out your internet?
Deleted User#0000: it doesnt work wired on the second one either
TheGeekster#8508: I feel like the common thing is your pc
TheGeekster#8508: no VPNs or anything?
Deleted User#0000: no
TheFifthAce#4128: @TheGeekster @JustinXenyx @thatubuntuguy |
TheFifthAce#4128: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ed9qyr/renoir_apu_ryzen_7_4700u_8c8t_2ghz42ghz_pcmark10/
TheFifthAce#4128: 8 core mobile zen 2 apus
TheFifthAce#4128: I want to fucking cream
SuSSudio#2688: :Yessi: :Yessi: :Yessi:
Lady Mipha#0611: :Yessi: :Yessi: :Yessi: :Yessi:
thatubuntuguy#5914: :feelsgoodman:
thatubuntuguy#5914: :Yessi: :Yessi: :Yessi:
thatubuntuguy#5914: Let's took
thatubuntuguy#5914: *gooooo
thatubuntuguy#5914: Mobile zen two octa core
thatubuntuguy#5914: Intel, youre fucked!!:epicgamer:
Enigmasflame#8007: Clean install of Win10
Got an RX 460 (4GB VRAM), using a molex-to-6pin
got the AMD Adrenaline drivers
tried testing it out with Unigine Heaven |
no artifacting, but textures are freaking out and/or flickering constantly
what's going on?
and yes this is on an older mobo, the OEM mobo in an optiplex 790
[Consensus so far, the OEM PSU is lacking and need to upgrade]
JustinXenyx#8854: Do you have pictures or video of said texture issue? @Enigmasflame
Enigmasflame#8007: I could take a shitty vid with my phone cus I'm scared of putting anymore of a load with direct capture
JustinXenyx#8854: That's all we need, i don't think we need high quality 4k video to just identify the issue lol
Enigmasflame#8007: gimme a sec
Enigmasflame#8007: So it somehow looks even worse than it is on the video, the video shows some other weird color banding/flickering that isn't seen on the actual screen, so you can disregard that, but ye there's texture flickering. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/657890916425662485/rx_460_unigine_flicker.mp4
JustinXenyx#8854: That's definitely some instability artifacting if i've seen it, could definitely be caused by power or VRAM issues if the card has not been overclocked
JustinXenyx#8854: Does the motherboard of the Optiplex 790 mention something of limited PCIe power in the rough area of where the PCIe slots are?
Enigmasflame#8007: The pcie slot appears to be limited to 35w, hence the molex to 6-pin |
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah, but AMD cards tend to pull a decent bit of power from the PCIe slot
JustinXenyx#8854: Card works fine in other rigs i'd assume?
Enigmasflame#8007: I Dunno, just got this card
Jam#0384: Maybe try a different PSU
Jam#0384: Also, Secure Boot in BIOS? Maybe
Jam#0384: Or even try lowering the clocks a tiny bit in Afterburner
TheFifthAce#4128: its the motherboard
TheFifthAce#4128: I've tested extensively in optiplexes
TheFifthAce#4128: :uwuPip:
TheFifthAce#4128: even if it has additional 6 pin it draws too much power from the pcie slot and just yoinks
Abe.#3344: Friend has a question
Abe.#3344: I don't think there's an issue with what he's saying but I could be wrong
Abe.#3344: "As you know my Packard Bell motherboard is quite outdated but i have an SSD running on it. The SSD is currently set to IDE mode and i want to change it to AHCI. I now for sure as a fact that my mother board supports AHCI and I have an option in my Bios to change the SATA mode but it is greyed out and is permanently set to IDE. It is the exact same motherboard from the Acer Veriton M275 PC and the motherboard is the same name too. Packard Bell has a dated bios update and the version is PO1 : A4L and that is the latest update on their website. However, on Acer's website, they have posted and updated the Bios to PO1 : ACL. As a fact, the L at the end of the version stands for the Bios for Linux and there is a version without the "L" which updates the supported microcodes of the CPU and fix some other bugs too. Can I flash the new bios on my pc even though the motherboard is the exact same and Packard Bell stopped updating their bios? Sure, the OEM logo on start-up will change and clearly everything will be renamed to Acer Veriton M275. So can I flash it?"
tdp2612#3835: i mean if its an identical motherboard, fflashing the bios should be fine
tdp2612#3835: as itll still be designed for the right board |
tdp2612#3835: but id wait for some more opinions rather than trusting me :epicgamer:
JustinXenyx#8854: You should 100% make sure they're the EXACT SAME motherboard
JustinXenyx#8854: Even identical boards can have BIOS differences that can make or break the system
Jam#0384: You should just be upgrading if your motherboard even has IDE on it, especially if its the only standard
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^
JustinXenyx#8854: @Abe. Jam has a point, upon googling the Acer system it turns out to be a 775 board, which IMO probably isn't even worth putting an SSD into
Abe.#3344: Yeah, but it's budget builds for a reason lmao
Abe.#3344: His parents refuse to pay for a new computer
Abe.#3344: He only managed to get an SSD
Tinybox#9112: @JustinXenyx Always wondered out of curiousity, the Asrock z68 pro3 and the gen3, are basically the same board.
Tinybox#9112: but the gen3 has a real shit bios compared to the non gen 3 one.
Tinybox#9112: (Specifically, overclocking)
Tinybox#9112: (Way less options)
Tinybox#9112: in all departments.
Abe.#3344: Has anyone used Drevo peripherals before? How are they? |
JustinXenyx#8854: Had a mechanical keyboard from them, was pretty nice
Jam#0384: His parents refuse to pay, good on them
Jam#0384: Theres this thing called working for what you want
Abe.#3344: Bro
Jam#0384: If he really wants a new computer he should do some form of work around the neighborhood or get a job
Abe.#3344: He's 13
Jam#0384: I worked at 13
Jam#0384: For my stuff
Abe.#3344: It's not that he doesn't want to work
Abe.#3344: He can't
Abe.#3344: His parents are very...
Jam#0384: A regular job isn’t the only way to make money
Abe.#3344: Old timey
Jam#0384: Go cut some peoples grass
Jam#0384: That’s old time |
Abe.#3344: He's not allowed to lol
Abe.#3344: He's only meant to be studying
Abe.#3344: He sneaks in games here and there
Jam#0384: Then they aren’t old timey, they’re just keeping him in a bubble
Abe.#3344: @JustinXenyx Which one?
Abe.#3344: @Jam yeah
Abe.#3344: His sister is in a worse condition
Abe.#3344: She ain't allowed to do anything
Abe.#3344: Talk to boys and shes done
Jam#0384: I’m still unconvinced that he cannot make money
Jam#0384: Lmao
Jam#0384: Imagine keeping your kids from boys
Abe.#3344: Lol
JustinXenyx#8854: Drevo Calibur @Abe.
Jam#0384: Thats just as bad as allowing them to do whatever they want with boys |
Jam#0384: More likely to get pregnant at 15-16
Jam#0384: counter intuitive
Abe.#3344: She would be wiped from existence of she did
Jam#0384: bad parenting
Abe.#3344: Amen
Jam#0384: I mean I would too though
Jam#0384: Got someone pregnant rather
Jam#0384: I thought I did once that was scary but I’m all good just vibin
Jam#0384: Anyways I’m unconvinced he cannot make money
Jam#0384: Can he not ask for money for his birthday or christmas
Abe.#3344: @JustinXenyx how's the software for RGB? I found a pretty good deal on a blademaster TE with cherry speeds for £40 used "good condition"
Abe.#3344: He was denied
Abe.#3344: The SSD was all they would allow
Jam#0384: The SSD is a waste of time for his PC
Abe.#3344: But the point is, he has to make do with what he's got |
Abe.#3344: When I saw his PC
Abe.#3344: It legit looked like a printer
Abe.#3344: It was kinda funny
Jam#0384: I had to make due with a Pentium 3 until like 2008
Jam#0384: It’s not like I don’t know
Abe.#3344: Me too
Abe.#3344: First gen celeron till 2016
Jam#0384: I had a Phenom I X3 desktop and a C2D laptop
Abe.#3344: Was rough playing anything but Minecraft
Jam#0384: First gen as in I series or a Pentium II Celeron
Abe.#3344: As in a Celeron 10XX
Abe.#3344: I think 1038?
Abe.#3344: Something like that
Abe.#3344: No
Abe.#3344: 1037u |
Jam#0384: Hm idk
Jam#0384: Anyways in 2015 i had my first high end PC
Abe.#3344: With what?
Jam#0384: i7-4770K and GTX 780Ti
Abe.#3344: Ooo
Jam#0384: It was a little outdated but good
Abe.#3344: I upgraded to a 2200g in 2016 or 2017
Abe.#3344: Or maybe 2018
Jam#0384: That would be 2018
Jam#0384: Lol
Abe.#3344: Yeah lol
Abe.#3344: Then I had the Celeron till 2018
Jam#0384: Meme
Jam#0384: I have 3700X
Abe.#3344: Still rocking the 2200g, but with a 960 now |
Jam#0384: I have a GTX 980 I don’t even use
Abe.#3344: Ouef
Jam#0384: I have a ton of junk though :P
Abe.#3344: I'm trying to get myself a 3600
Jam#0384: 3600 is good
Abe.#3344: Or a 1660ish card
Abe.#3344: Or preferably both
Jam#0384: I could have made do with a 3600 but i wanted extra cores and headroom
JustinXenyx#8854: Don't use RGB so i didn't use the software @Abe.
Abe.#3344: Clearly not gamer enough XD
Abe.#3344: But the reviews look pretty decent
Abe.#3344: So I think I'll take it
Tinybox#9112: if you are a gamer, permanently keep your keyboard in the angled position, and put RGB LEDs below it
DarknessFalls229#2286: Guys im having a real annoying issue
DarknessFalls229#2286: This computers sound is so low, at 100% its barely hearable. Ive tried drivers and other things but havent gotten it to work yet |
DarknessFalls229#2286: Its realtek alc888s
BigPierogi#3368: is it connected to the front port
BigPierogi#3368: or the abck port
DarknessFalls229#2286: Tried both
BigPierogi#3368: because with my pc
BigPierogi#3368: the front port was really quiet
BigPierogi#3368: and the back was fine
Deleted User#0000: I'm having this issue where my gpu keeps freezing with sound glitching out and I have to reset my pc every time
Deleted User#0000: I've tried reinstalling drivers, tried older drivers, reinstalled windows many times and on a new SSD
Deleted User#0000: I even went and had a deep clean with my pc to see if it solved anything but it only got worse
Deleted User#0000: happens every time I start a game or happens at random times
tdp2612#3835: can you run it for a bit with afterburner or something open, see if theres anything weird going on
Deleted User#0000: Sometimes the screen goes black then the pc restarts
DarknessFalls229#2286: tried reflashing the bios?
Deleted User#0000: How do I do that? |
DarknessFalls229#2286: its a bit complicated
DarknessFalls229#2286: 1. you have to download the Bios flasher program (i think its ATIflash for AMD or NVflash for NVIDIA)
2. you have to download your GPU specific bios
3. you have to load the program in CMD, or at least i think.
4. make a backup of your bios
5. flash the bios that you had downloaded
6. restart the computer
7. wait for your drivers to pickup the updated GPU, should take a few seconds
DarknessFalls229#2286: However i do recommend searching a detailed walkthrough of your vendor specific(AMD or NVIDIA) card
Deleted User#0000: It's nvidia
DarknessFalls229#2286: ohh, yeah just use nvflash
DarknessFalls229#2286: a little shortcut, you can just drag your bios onto your NVFLASH64.exe and it should do it for you, not really the safest doing it that way
Deleted User#0000: I don't think its the bios though
DarknessFalls229#2286: is it getting enough power?
DarknessFalls229#2286: whats the wattage on your PSU? |
Deleted User#0000: 650w
DarknessFalls229#2286: which model?
Deleted User#0000: Thermaltake smart 650w
DarknessFalls229#2286: probably good enough, which card is it?
Deleted User#0000: nvidia gtx 650 ti boost
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmm, have you tried downclocking and undervolting the card to see if that offers more stability?
Deleted User#0000: no
DarknessFalls229#2286: are you going to try?
Deleted User#0000: Right now it seems to work
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmm, without any modifications?
Deleted User#0000: No
Deleted User#0000: But all last night it was doing that
JustinXenyx#8854: I kinda have the feeling that your graphics card is dying @Deleted User
JustinXenyx#8854: @DarknessFalls229 The issues he has don't sound like corrupted BIOS imo
DarknessFalls229#2286: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
DarknessFalls229#2286: also @JustinXenyx i got confirmation that my i7 3770 works
JustinXenyx#8854: nice
JustinXenyx#8854: i7 3770 gang
DarknessFalls229#2286: pretty much free 100 euro
JustinXenyx#8854: Using one rn
DarknessFalls229#2286: think i should sell it standalone or buy a mobo and build a gaming machine?
JustinXenyx#8854: Probably better off selling it standalone
DarknessFalls229#2286: most (decent) motherboards i see are either bundles or expensive
JustinXenyx#8854: exactly
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmm i see a few going for 70 euro tray, what do you reckon i ask for mine?
JustinXenyx#8854: if you want a quick sale 50 euro, if you can wait like 60-65 euro
DarknessFalls229#2286: alright
DarknessFalls229#2286: ty
Deleted User#0000: I wonder if putting my gpu in another pci express slot will do anything
LuminousFuture#5919: when you have a 8x2 3000mhz kit, but only have one stick, whats the max speed you can run it at? |
MythologicalZ#3752: Uhh
MythologicalZ#3752: With xmp it'll should run whatever it's rated at
MythologicalZ#3752: OC wise it depends on your ICs, board,CPU etc etc
LuminousFuture#5919: aight, figured out that the real reason my computer was crashing was some bad ram
Ælfwynn#9530: anyone know what might problem be second laptop ram slot dosent recognize any rams
Deleted User#0000: can someone help me out with a ram upgrade
Deleted User#0000: i tried to put 2x4gb of 1333mhz ddr3 in a optiplex 380 sff and it’s just making 6 long beeps and not displaying
Deleted User#0000: i looked it up and the only results are on threads that i cant view
Deleted User#0000: it works when i use the old ram
DarknessFalls229#2286: Have tried using a single stick in either slot?
Deleted User#0000: yep
Deleted User#0000: same thing, 6 beeps
DarknessFalls229#2286: And does the motherboard support 4gb sticks?
Deleted User#0000: yeah
Deleted User#0000: max of 8gb in total |
DarknessFalls229#2286: Hmmm, tried changing a few settings in bios to make them work?
DarknessFalls229#2286: With the old ram first of course
Deleted User#0000: no, one sec
Deleted User#0000: k, i’m on the bios
DarknessFalls229#2286: Tried changing ram speed and other related settings?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Also perhaps a bios update
Deleted User#0000: ik the bios is updated. what settings would i change the speed?
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/658753349209948180/image0.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: Ram multiplier usually
DarknessFalls229#2286: @JustinXenyx do you know much about this issue?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Anyway imguessing you can find it under performance
Deleted User#0000: i checked through each tab and none look like they’re directly ram related right away https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/658754072089853952/image0.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: Not anything at all?
Deleted User#0000: i’ll double check
JustinXenyx#8854: You need to into General, then into System Board |
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, Dells can be hella picky with their RAM, really isn't surprising me that the RAM upgrade does not work
Deleted User#0000: also, i know that the computer accepts this speed and such. this video has been a decent resource
Deleted User#0000: https://youtu.be/Sb8s3RwVa9Q
Deleted User#0000: idk if it matters but i’m using g.skill ripjaws x
Deleted User#0000: here’s the board info https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/658756042494050314/image0.jpg
Deleted User#0000: apparently this one is pretty picky as well https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/658761434683146270/image0.png
Deleted User#0000: thanks for the help
tdp2612#3835: yeah a lot of 775 boards only support 4gb properly
tdp2612#3835: however, its generally sticks where the chips are on both sides that work
tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/658761837696778240/Double-sided-DIMM.png
tdp2612#3835: so something like this is much more likely to work, although its no gaurantee
DarknessFalls229#2286: 775 is pretty picky on ram indeed
tdp2612#3835: i mean you havent given us a motherboard number or any real specs on the ram either
JustinXenyx#8854: Dell Optiplex 380 is the system, so i'd HIGHLY assume he is using that motherboard lol
tdp2612#3835: it could be that it wants like 10600 not 12800 or something like |
tdp2612#3835: did it only ever come with one, no revisions?
tdp2612#3835: @Deleted User i know you say its ripjaw but can you get a bit more specific
IRON MAIDEN#4184: luckly my 775 supports 8
Deinsti#5907: My Dimension E520 has supported 8GB no problems
Deleted User#0000: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dK9KHx/gskill-memory-f310666cl9d8gbxl
Deleted User#0000: and yeah, it’s the oem motherboard
Jam#0384: Most decent or better board support 6-8GB on 775
Jam#0384: Issue is, a good chunk of those have two DIMM slots
Jam#0384: and 4GB DDR2 is quite uncommon
Jam#0384: Issue is, theres far more low end 775 and trash ones because it spanned a long time, and was during a time period when home desktops were much more of a common thing
Jam#0384: so OEM market was BIG
AlphaRiz#9497: Can anyone explain why my cpu speed when playing PES 2017 reached 3.1 GHz but when recording plus playing pubg Lite the speed only got 1.3 GHz, can anyone explain?
TheGeekster#8508: Do you have any issues with the game & recording?
TheGeekster#8508: If not, the CPU power required might just not be that much
Francesco99#6938: Merry Christmas at all and at our famylies! |
I have a TOSHIBA Satellite L50-B-17V with a dedicated AMD Radeon R7 M260 card. However PowerDVD only works with Intel HD Graphics 4400 integrated card. Can PowerDVD be forced only with AMD graphics? If in the graphics settings of Windows 10 I set "High performance" on PowerDVD 19 it only plays the VOB and MPG files. Everyone else tells me, "This media is not supported." I have already installed all the codecs and they work well on Intel card and on Windows Media Player also with AMD card.
Deleted User#0000: This issue i'm having is getting worse and annoying. My graphics card has been acting up a lot lately and one of those issues is where my graphics card hangs a lot, and most of the time it doesn't recover and I have to reset the pc, and when it does recover the screen, sometimes, looks corrupted. I've reinstalled windows (many times in fact, even on a ssd), I cleaned the computer to see if that would help, which didn't, completely wiped drivers to the graphic card and reinstalled them but didn't solve it either, I even monitored it while gaming and normal use and it seems to be normal. Can someone give me a reason to why it's doing this? Maybe it's dying? I hope not. *GTX 650 ti boost*
Alcyone#2233: Mightbneed a repaste, if that doesnt work a component is probably failing. Using afterburner underclock the vram then if issues persist reset that and underclock core
Deleted User#0000: I don't think it needs a repaste
Deleted User#0000: I did that about a year ago
Deleted User#0000: I sometimes get this or kernel security check failure https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/659686843058618368/IMG_0180.jpg
tdp2612#3835: I mean a year ago isnt that recent
tdp2612#3835: And putting new paste on is basically free
tdp2612#3835: But yeah if you can get on long enough, underclock everything and see if that helps at all
Deleted User#0000: It likes to hang when I start afterburner
Deleted User#0000: Didn't work
Deleted User#0000: it froze 5 minutes after underclocking and froze on startup
Alcyone#2233: Is your pc overclocked? Bclk/fsb/pcie clock can do this as well
Deleted User#0000: no
JustinXenyx#8854: My suspicion still is that your graphics card is dying @Deleted User |
Francesco99#6938: Nobody can help me?
JustinXenyx#8854: @Francesco99 Sorry for late answer, the 25th was a rather packed day yesterday, i think you can force PowerDVD to use your R7 M260 via the graphics performance preference settings within the display settings on Windows 10
JustinXenyx#8854: This is what i'm referring to https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/659718767688810497/thiswindowshere.PNG
Francesco99#6938: Yes, I do this, but this reproduce only MPG and VOB videos. With the other videos her say: "This media Is not supported by PowerDVD".
SuSSudio#2688: folks, is there really a 512MB GTS 450 card?
SuSSudio#2688: asking because i just came across one, nearly checked out on it
watsonad2000#2000: No by gpu-l https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/659754964138197003/Screenshot_20191226-074839.png
watsonad2000#2000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/659755285270757384/Screenshot_20191226-075149.png
watsonad2000#2000: OEM yes
SuSSudio#2688: But the one i found is EVGA branded
JustinXenyx#8854: There were some 512MB GTS450s with GDDR5
JustinXenyx#8854: don't think a 512MB 450 existed with DDR3 VRAM
SuSSudio#2688: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/659755593057435648/data.jpeg
SuSSudio#2688: Yes it is GDDR5
watsonad2000#2000: 🤔 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/659755690562420736/Screenshot_20191226-075314.png |
JustinXenyx#8854: @watsonad2000 scam GPUs from China
SuSSudio#2688: Should i give it a go? i'm buying this for reselling
watsonad2000#2000: All the evgas are 1gb ddr5
SuSSudio#2688: about us$18
JustinXenyx#8854: https://www.evga.com/products/specs/gpu.aspx?pn=D54EC140-E3B8-4F13-9EA8-22B9C54306F9
JustinXenyx#8854: @watsonad2000 Nope
watsonad2000#2000: tpu must not have them
JustinXenyx#8854: And this is why you reference multiple sources
JustinXenyx#8854: @SuSSudio By chance, is it the card i linked above?
SuSSudio#2688: hold on a sec
SuSSudio#2688: Nope it's not FTW
watsonad2000#2000: Why would evga cut down the ref
JustinXenyx#8854: To save costs @watsonad2000
watsonad2000#2000: On a ftw
watsonad2000#2000: those are the better ones |
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