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Slyse#2578: yeah, everytime after going into the BIOS, it freezes after 5-10 sec, then trying to restart it up again, it has a constant red led on the CPU qled
Slyse#2578: after clearing the cmos and reseating the cpu it let me stay in the BIOS for a good 1min without crashing, but then after exiting the BIOS, the same thing started happening again
TheGeekster#8508: yeahhhhh, sounds like something is unstable, tbh the 8th gen are still pretty good, i wouldn't look past replacing the cpu, maybe even under warranty if possible?
Slyse#2578: Still under warranty yeah, I'll have to see how that plays out
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Did you move or reseat the CPU?
Slyse#2578: reseated, took it off completely and put it back in
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Uh, you might want to check the pins.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: For dirt or any broken ones.
Slyse#2578: did this too
DarknessFalls229#2286: does it have dual bios?
Slyse#2578: couldn't see any clear defect, at least with a quick glance
DarknessFalls229#2286: perhaps its a bios issue, though somehow doubt it when it _tries_ to go into windows
Slyse#2578: not sure if it has a dual BIOS, how can I tell?
Slyse#2578: It tries to go into windows, but really hangs up like a sec or two into the spinning circle
Slyse#2578: same with BIOS, if I enter the utility, it freezes a few seconds into it |
DarknessFalls229#2286: after resetting cmos did you choose the correct sata setting?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Doesn't seem to mention anything about dual BIOSes.
Slyse#2578: only tried to load up the defaults. It does recognize the HDDs connected
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: ```128 Mb Flash ROM, UEFI AMI BIOS, PnP, WfM2.0, SM BIOS 3.0, ACPI 6.0, Multi-language BIOS, ASUS EZ Flash 3, CrashFree BIOS 3, F11 EZ Tuning Wizard, F6 Qfan Control, F3 My Favorites, Last Modified log, F12 PrintScreen, and ASUS DRAM SPD (Serial Presence Detect) memory information.```
Slyse#2578: one time I got a BSOD that said something about IRQ No Less or Equal, I think
Slyse#2578: during this process, I mean
TheGeekster#8508: That generally points to drivers, but it's a very... general error message
Slyse#2578: that's what I gather, yeah
Clode#2428: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701100439210557541/Screenshot_20200418-170233_Chrome.jpg
Clode#2428: Is it a good price?
tdp2612#3835: i wouldnt say so, not massively
Clode#2428: Thanks
tdp2612#3835: like id say thats a perfectly average price
read bio/description#8459: Hello, was there ever a version of the HD 7770 that looked like this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701157513164357642/images1000x700.png
TheGeekster#8508: not that i can see from looking it up on google images |
JustinXenyx#8854: Not a 7770, but probably a 7750 or 7730 @read bio/description
read bio/description#8459: are these cards good? @JustinXenyx
TheGeekster#8508: *look them up*
read bio/description#8459: @TheGeekster searched them up, none look like this one
TheGeekster#8508: no you asked if these cards are good, i'd suggest looking up benchmarks of the 7750 and 7730
TheFifthAce#4128: looks like an HD 5570
The United States Air Force#7904: I am wondering why this system isn't posting the GPU and ram work https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701206382816264262/JPEG_20200418_180242.jpg
TheGeekster#8508: what happens when you power it on?
The United States Air Force#7904: Fans spin up
The United States Air Force#7904: But no display
The United States Air Force#7904: Doesn't even spin loudly
TheGeekster#8508: Tried with just one ram stick? varying different slots?
The United States Air Force#7904: Hmm lemme see
The United States Air Force#7904: Nope
tdp2612#3835: do you know if each of the parts work? |
tdp2612#3835: are they all known good
The United States Air Force#7904: I know the gpu and ram work
The United States Air Force#7904: CPU should
The United States Air Force#7904: Work
tdp2612#3835: can you try a display out of the board
The United States Air Force#7904: It doesn't have any
The United States Air Force#7904: You need a dedicated gpu
tdp2612#3835: ah
tdp2612#3835: that was a dumb assumption of me
JustinXenyx#8854: firstly, i'd reduce the system to the least components as possible
JustinXenyx#8854: only use 1 ram stick, use a basic display adapter, hell maybe even take the cooler off to see if the CPU even gets warm
The United States Air Force#7904: Hmm theres no cmos in it but I'd expect it to work without a cmos
The United States Air Force#7904: CPU is not getting warm
JustinXenyx#8854: also, that PSU really looks suspicious in my opinion
tdp2612#3835: try put a cmos in just for the sake of it |
The United States Air Force#7904: It is
JustinXenyx#8854: I'd try swapping that with something better
read bio/description#8459: Hey, I have a question. There are 2 ram slots on the motherboard, 2 ram sticks sit in them. They have the same speeds, the same voltage same everything except the size (4gb+2gb), will this work in dual channel?
Racey#8574: it's one dimm dual channel
Racey#8574: Each of them are in their own ram channels
TheGeekster#8508: it'll run dual channel to the smallest size, so 2gb will be dual channel, and 2gb extra will be single channel
TheGeekster#8508: (depending on motherboard, etc)
read bio/description#8459: Damn, that sucks.
read bio/description#8459: What if I have 2 ram sticks, both 4 gb ddr3 but one is 1333 MHz and the other is 1600 MHz?
JustinXenyx#8854: I don't even think that applies after LGA1155 @TheGeekster
read bio/description#8459: It will go to 1333 MHz but will it be dual channel?
JustinXenyx#8854: @read bio/description dual channel at lowest clockspeed that both sticks can run
read bio/description#8459: phew
read bio/description#8459: better than the first option
read bio/description#8459: If the slot/mobo doesn't support 1600 MHz it will work at 1333 MHz right? |
TheGeekster#8508: yeah
read bio/description#8459: Mk.
read bio/description#8459: After calculation the stuff I found rn goes 30-50 PLN over my budget. Gotta save up a bit I guess.
read bio/description#8459: Mk, thanks.
read bio/description#8459: If this isn't an HD 7770 (or 7750/7730) then what could it be? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701402014722031706/images1000x700.png
Yannikau#9606: Maybe HD 75xx?
TheGeekster#8508: ask the seller for a model number
read bio/description#8459: Ok, I think I found it... seems to be a HD 5670
TheGeekster#8508: otherwise you're just guessing
read bio/description#8459: seems close https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701402899229442099/20200115_09_47_034_patrycja.png
read bio/description#8459: I asked him for a pic from GPU-Z just to be sure.
read bio/description#8459: Hey, I found a good motherboard (finally), ofc its a dell so hey, front panel connectors issues here we go. I found a pinout on how to get the power done, but I still have 3 connectors left: Power Led, HDD Led and USB (actually its 1 USB + SD card slots, which is why I want to use it), how can I do this? Will '8' work for the USB connector? This motherboard is a Dell OptiPlex 790 MT. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701408195809378374/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: Here's the power switch pinout. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701408268513312848/Untitled.png
read bio/description#8459: Could this help? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701408622764228608/44c6443.png
read bio/description#8459: btw. seems like mt and dt had the same mobo |
read bio/description#8459: It's almost the same, it literally only has 1 sata connector removed and thats it
TheGeekster#8508: Yes it will work
read bio/description#8459: Ok, I'm bout to order it. One more thing: is the HD 6850 any good? Compared to the GTX 650 and HD 7770
Lady Mipha#0611: 7770 over 6850 due to drivers
MythologicalZ#3752: Terascale drivers are a joke, avoid the 6850
read bio/description#8459: Thought so. Too bad all the deals on the HD 7770 are gone :/
SuSSudio#2688: @read bio/description I'm late but here's some words from me :
HD6850 is decent if you're playing older titles (2015 & older) in 720p.
SuSSudio#2688: I can't say my average fps with CSGO as i run with Q9450 that suffers from frame dips in crowded situations however i can get atleast 160fps when there's nothing going on in low settings.
Bisexual Billy#9476: Terascale is decent but in heavily intensive modern titles, I wouldn't recommend.
I remember issues with Playing BF1 on a 6950 (flashed to 6970 and back to 6950 again) and I got black artifacts on the screen, however BF4 actually ran really well on that GPU.
SuSSudio#2688: HD6970 though is still somewhat special to me even if it's this old & has 'mediocre' drivers. It was my childhood dream to get behind that card. HD 6850 almost got me that feel, but it's just a beefed up Terascale 2 card.
read bio/description#8459: Right now I'm focused on getting that dell motherboard etc.
Bisexual Billy#9476: I used a friends one back when I upgraded to a GTX 260 in my own PC. |
I was blown away by the performance, I built a new PC with a GTX 960 and used a 6970 in my Server after my 2600XT died.
SuSSudio#2688: That, it was such a monster card, tears almost any early 2010s games
Bisexual Billy#9476: @read bio/description I'd recommend an XPS system if you're going that route, and if you have enough room for it.
Great systems, very expandable.
read bio/description#8459: I'm already set on the mobo, but thanks.
Bisexual Billy#9476: @SuSSudio I agree, it even ran BF4 1080p high at 70ish fps.
I was pleasently surprised for such an old card tbh.
Bisexual Billy#9476: @read bio/description Ah right, what kind of hardware are you going for out of curiousity?
read bio/description#8459: Dell 790 MT Mobo, 4x2 GB DDR3 1333 MHz, i3 2120/2100 not sure here, and GTX 650/HD 7770, depends on which I can get cheaper.
SuSSudio#2688: > I agree, it even ran BF4 1080p high at 70ish fps. I was pleasently surprised for such an old card tbh.
I'll be getting one sometime. a must have card to go into my collection shelf
Bisexual Billy#9476: @read bio/description Where about's in the world are you?
read bio/description#8459: Poland.
Bisexual Billy#9476: @SuSSudio It is a legendary card, I got to play with a 6990 before. those things were beasts back in the day! although they require a lot to cool. |
read bio/description#8459: The cheapest 1155 i5 is like 7x the cost of the i3, so I'm getting an i3 instead.
read bio/description#8459: i5 is only possible with 1156 for me at the moment.
SuSSudio#2688: > I got to play with a 6990 before. those things were beasts back in the day! although they require a lot to cool.
That was early 2010s kid wet dream. Oh man.
read bio/description#8459: But there aren't any good cheap 1156 mobos here (there were some, but someone bought them before me)
Bisexual Billy#9476: Ah, I was about to say, how come you're getting a i3.
that explains it.
GCN Gen 1 (7770) is not a bad choice but if you can up it to a 7790, should be a similar price and form factor but a lot more performance.
SuSSudio#2688: You won't regret getting 7790 Pol4k. solid midrange card
read bio/description#8459: The 1155 i5s are so damn expensive for whatever reason.
Bisexual Billy#9476: @SuSSudio Terascale 2 is why I am using an AMD GPU in my PC along side my NVidia GPU, AMD Driver support especially on the Polaris stuff is amazing, works out of the box.
read bio/description#8459: Meanwhile 1156 boards are either weird form factor or don't have a PCI-e x16 or are just way out of the budget.
Bisexual Billy#9476: LGA 1156 is just overpriced in general in europeian countrys. |
read bio/description#8459: Yeah, I did have some deals, was gonna buy one, but my mom was like we'll do it in the evening (obv she has the bank account) so I agreed... then it sold.
SuSSudio#2688: I've been a radeon user since i got my first pc, i had 2600 Pro as my 1st video card. I still keep it today, it died unfortunately.
SuSSudio#2688: Then i went with geforce 210 for a few months, & finally got a 1GB HD4670 later in the year.
HD4670 accompanied my childhood that it makes the longest video card i've ever owned in my life. I sold it almost a year ago.
Bisexual Billy#9476: it actually makes more sense to go LGA 2011 (v1) in the UK.
even then 1st gen AM4 CPU's are competing at a somewhat similar price level on the used market.
@SuSSudio I've been a NVidia user on my main PC's although I've owned a lot of machines with AMD Graphic cards in them, I've been particularly impressed with the driver support on Linux.
That's why I'm using both a Radeon graphics card and NVidia GPU on my current machine.
read bio/description#8459: Damn, CeX is out of DDR3 except 8 GB sticks.
Bisexual Billy#9476: How much are the 8GB sticks?
read bio/description#8459: hold up
read bio/description#8459: 100 PLN per stick (19,25 GBP/24 USD)
read bio/description#8459: Aka too much |
Śnieżka#3486: Right so I reinstalled my windows 10 copy and yet I still am having issues with booting up. It looks like the first time I boot up after a long period the windows only loads up to the point of showing its logo and it freezes at this point. I have to force reset my pc. Any way of fixing this?
read bio/description#8459: @Śnieżka What is the OS installed on?
Śnieżka#3486: an SSD
Śnieżka#3486: if thats what you're asking about
read bio/description#8459: Is the SSD old?
Śnieżka#3486: Nope
read bio/description#8459: Give ur full specs
Śnieżka#3486: its got about 3000 hours of uptime
Śnieżka#3486: ok one sec
SuSSudio#2688: Have you tried resetting CMOS?
Śnieżka#3486: FX6200 @ 4.4GHz
8GB of Geil DDR3 RAM
Asus Crosshair IV Formula
120GB Adata SSD
500GB Segate HDD |
480GB Crucial SSD
Śnieżka#3486: and an Asus R9 270x
read bio/description#8459: U sure the OS is on the SSD?
Śnieżka#3486: Yes, I even made sure to wipe the whole drive so that nothing is left behind
read bio/description#8459: Which SSD did u use for the OS?
Śnieżka#3486: The 120GB one
SuSSudio#2688: Usually if it's not improper voltage, it's the RAM that's getting worn
read bio/description#8459: Ok, idk then to be completely honest with u
Śnieżka#3486: I had this problem previously when I updated win7 to win10 and people said its because of that so because I have much more free time I reinstalled w10 with hopes of this problem vanishing but I guess not
Bisexual Billy#9476: That is a good thing to check.
Asus can sometimes be a little dodgy with Ram Voltages, especially pre-2017 Asus.
SuSSudio#2688: ^^^
MythologicalZ#3752: That's vague
MythologicalZ#3752: Sounds like a bad install or a dying drive
MythologicalZ#3752: What model is it |
Śnieżka#3486: u h h
Śnieżka#3486: hold on a sec
Śnieżka#3486: SU650
MythologicalZ#3752: :crome:
MythologicalZ#3752: Su650 is an alright drive
MythologicalZ#3752: I would try a fresh install and see if that helps
MythologicalZ#3752: Have you checked health stats recently?
Śnieżka#3486: I legit reinstalled windows 2 days ago
Śnieżka#3486: > Have you checked health stats recently?
I got the same idea so I'm doing that just now
Śnieżka#3486: ok it's got a bit more hours than I thought, 3663 to be exact
Bisexual Billy#9476: I'd check ram voltage.
see if it's staying at 1.5v.
Have you tried a clean startup? |
Śnieżka#3486: 1. I'll check ram voltage when it stops scanning the ssd for errors
2. no
Śnieżka#3486: But I did notice that it happened even when it was rebooting while still installing
Śnieżka#3486: ya know that one bit when it restarts the pc
Bisexual Billy#9476: Ah, in that case it's either the ram doing something it's not supposed to (ie overvolt/undervolt itself to the point it's unstable), or the SSD might be faulty.
how many sticks do you have?
Śnieżka#3486: One 8 gig
Śnieżka#3486: from Geil
Śnieżka#3486: Corsa Evo I think
Bisexual Billy#9476: One other thing you can check as well is see the timings on the stick.
it'll either show you the full set of timings on the label or give you something like "CL11" or "CL9" so I'd check that and check if it matches in the UEFI.
Śnieżka#3486: what I can say for sure is that this ram stick does not like being oc'd
Śnieżka#3486: I tried everything and it just doesn't go above 1600
Śnieżka#3486: wait no I once got it to be at 1900
but the overall performance was much worse |
Śnieżka#3486: HD Tune result https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701435869294493816/unknown.png
Bisexual Billy#9476: it might be the motherboard might have set it to too low of a voltage out of the box.
it's a common issue in my experiance with Asus motherboards, to be either over the standard voltage or under it.
Bisexual Billy#9476: or it could be the timings are screwed? for what reason, I'm not sure but it's another thing worth checking.
Śnieżka#3486: Okay, so you're saying it's probably a problem with the ram yes?
read bio/description#8459: Guys, what's better? GTX 650 or R7 250?
Bisexual Billy#9476: Either Ram or SSD.
if it's the SSD, you may have to buy another.
if it's the ram you can just set these settings to what the manufacturer recommended, that works 9 times out of 10 with these types of problems.
Śnieżka#3486: Jesus I legit got that ssd a year ago
Śnieżka#3486: and just recently a 480gb one for my games
Śnieżka#3486: welp lets hope its the ram problem
Bisexual Billy#9476: I'm thinking it's more likely the ram.
but it could be the SSD in theory too.
Śnieżka#3486: Aight |
Śnieżka#3486: Imma go check ram settings rn
MythologicalZ#3752: @read bio/description 650
read bio/description#8459: Guys, is this exact same card is still worth it? I found it for a low price. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As1U_2urxJA
read bio/description#8459: oh
read bio/description#8459: @MythologicalZ How much performance difference? The r7 is much cheaper
Śnieżka#3486: DRAM timings are 11/11/11/28 2T
Śnieżka#3486: And it's on auto voltage
Śnieżka#3486: Apparently 1.654v
read bio/description#8459: tf?
Bisexual Billy#9476: Yep! that's what it is.
Śnieżka#3486: According to BIOS
Bisexual Billy#9476: turn that all the way down to 1.5v
read bio/description#8459: Pretty sure DDR3 is 1,5V max
Bisexual Billy#9476: ^^^
MythologicalZ#3752: What clocks |
MythologicalZ#3752: 1.5 is like 1600 tier
Śnieżka#3486: 1600mhz and 11/11/11/28 2T
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah no, turn that down
MythologicalZ#3752: Probably a mess because mixed modules
Śnieżka#3486: To what settings?
Bisexual Billy#9476: Change the voltage to 1.5v from auto.
MythologicalZ#3752: Leave the timings and clocks alone, change it to 1.5v
Bisexual Billy#9476: that should fix things.
Śnieżka#3486: That's done
Śnieżka#3486: Ok so just voltage?
Bisexual Billy#9476: yep.
Bisexual Billy#9476: worry about overclocking later.
Śnieżka#3486: Aight
MythologicalZ#3752: @read bio/description what prices
Śnieżka#3486: I mean idc about oc'ing the ram |
Śnieżka#3486: Nope
read bio/description#8459: 65 PLN for the R7 250, 100 PLN for the GTX 650 (tryin to talk down the guy tho)
Śnieżka#3486: Still have the same problem
MythologicalZ#3752: Likely the drive then
Śnieżka#3486: Fuq
MythologicalZ#3752: Try a fresh install and see what happens
Śnieżka#3486: Again?
Śnieżka#3486: After just 2 days?
read bio/description#8459: @MythologicalZ why do you think the gtx 650 is better?
MythologicalZ#3752: Because it's a slightly slower 7770 and a 250 is slower than both afaik
read bio/description#8459: from what i've heard the hd 7770 destroys the 650
MythologicalZ#3752: Depends on the game, Kepler has really shitty drivers
MythologicalZ#3752: Since the 7770 is GCN it still has okish support
read bio/description#8459: Really? thought the kepler ones were good
Bisexual Billy#9476: The HD 7770 is a lot better than the 650 but the 650 is a lot better than the R7 250 |
MythologicalZ#3752: Kepler has been lacking optimisations for years now
read bio/description#8459: @MythologicalZ sounds like terascale lol
MythologicalZ#3752: In a way
read bio/description#8459: What GPUs are similiar to the GTX 650 and HD 7770? 1x6pin connector max, so no fermi cards.
MythologicalZ#3752: 7790, 250x, no real Nvidia equivalent that I can think of
read bio/description#8459: Damn, the cheapest 250x on OLX is 100 PLN
read bio/description#8459: 7790 is also expensive.
MythologicalZ#3752: :crome:
Bisexual Billy#9476: r7 260x/7790 or the R7 250x = 7770 so it's not too bad.
read bio/description#8459: Found a HD 7790 for 110 PLN, and an HD 7770 for 110 PLN, I pmed the other dude about the first one, maybe he'll lower the price
Bisexual Billy#9476: I'd go with the 7790 easily.
it even outperforms the GTX 750-ti in some cases.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @MythologicalZ GT 740?
MythologicalZ#3752: Dunno,maybe
read bio/description#8459: Im considering not getting the GPU for now and maybe saving up. |
read bio/description#8459: Found this r7 260... but just look at that pic. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701441037285195856/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: doesnt seem legit in the slightest
MythologicalZ#3752: Just looks a shit photo to me
MythologicalZ#3752: Ask for more pics if necessary
read bio/description#8459: Also on OLX you can put ur name... he literally just put "Osoba" which literally means Person
MythologicalZ#3752: :crome:
read bio/description#8459: It looks to me like he stole the pic
read bio/description#8459: and didnt know how to save, so he made a screenshot
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: Such a meme scammer LOL.
MythologicalZ#3752: Message him regardless
MythologicalZ#3752: Some people are just retards or lazy
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: @read bio/description You can try downloading that photo and use Google Image to search it.
read bio/description#8459: thought of that
read bio/description#8459: but i cant bother myself to do that
Sentient Potato#6003: Looks oem |
MythologicalZ#3752: It's not
MythologicalZ#3752: Just an older Gigabyte design
tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701455525862440990/2515-front.png
read bio/description#8459: Hey guys, I finally got my CPU+MOBO ordered, as of now I'll have to stuck in 2x2gb of borrowed ram and I won't have the GPU yet. So here's the question: what's better for now? HD 2000 Integrated or the 8400GS (rev1)? @Tech Helper
Budget#8265: 8400GS
read bio/description#8459: Good to know, thanks!
Jam#0384: 8400gs but preferably neither
read bio/description#8459: Well yeah, but I gotta have something to show the screen stuff.
Jam#0384: What’s in that other Pc You had
Jam#0384: Or your uncles
read bio/description#8459: Its a laptop. My uncle's has a 210
Jam#0384: 210 is better
Budget#8265: Depends what rev
Budget#8265: But yeah 210 tends to be better
Jam#0384: It’s usually faster |
read bio/description#8459: Idk if he would give it to me for some time
Jam#0384: he’s not using the machine
read bio/description#8459: All I remember is that it's the Gigabyte version
Budget#8265: Performance diffrence isnt much usually
read bio/description#8459: Well yeah but my uncle is my uncle lol
Jam#0384: I mean I’d take any extra performance coming from an 8400
Jam#0384: And I know because I’ve used a similar card in my main system years ago
read bio/description#8459: I just need to sell one more thing (got people interested so shouldn't take too long) and then I'll get the GPU.
read bio/description#8459: Like an actual good one.
Budget#8265: Try and OC if you can
Jam#0384: I wouldn’t mega cheap out on PSU or GPU
Jam#0384: I mean used yes for GPU
read bio/description#8459: I know. I already have a good PSU so that won't be an issue.
Jam#0384: but spending like $10 is going to be a waste of time
read bio/description#8459: Yeah, that's why I'd rather just take the 8400gs instead of begging my uncle to borrow the 210 |
Jam#0384: Why does he care so much about the pc in his attic
read bio/description#8459: tbh idk neither do i care. I won't have that 8400gs in there for long.
read bio/description#8459: Not sure if it will be worth using the PC before getting the better GPU, cuz I mean, my laptop has an i5 480m that is probably comparable to the i3 2120 and a HD 6370m which destroys the 8400GS.
read bio/description#8459: Actually no, the i3 is much better, it has 3,3 GHz speeds vs 2,67 GHz on the i5.
Jam#0384: The i3 should be faster
Jam#0384: Better IPC and higher clocks
Jam#0384: And HyperThreading
Jam#0384: Clock speed isn’t everything though
Jam#0384: Athlon 64 @2.2GHz beats Pentium D at 3GHz
Jam#0384: Crimge
read bio/description#8459: I know, but the core design of these processors are similar, so I decided to compare the clocks.
Jam#0384: Not really
Budget#8265: Which gen?
Jam#0384: First gen to second gen is a big jump
Budget#8265: ^ |
Jam#0384: Not that similar
Budget#8265: First gen is a completely diffrent archutecture
Budget#8265: Its closer to C2D with integrated memory controlelr than it is a Sandy CPU
Budget#8265: Sandy is where the leaps slow down a bit
Jam#0384: Not worth jumping from Sandy to Ivy unless a good deal
Jam#0384: It’s virtually the same with slightly slightly higher clocks
Jam#0384: 2600K vs 3770K just get the cheaper one
Jam#0384: Not that i recommend either, just get a non-K or similar Xeon if possible
Budget#8265: 10% IPC increase to be fair
Jam#0384: Yeah, but it’s not worth the premium they ask for the high end chips
Jam#0384: Just get the Sandy ones unless the Ivy is cheaper
read bio/description#8459: My board only supports sandy
Jam#0384: Douby
Jam#0384: H61 works on Ivy
Jam#0384: I have mega doubt |
Racey#8574: Give your board a Google to see if someone got it to support Ivy
MythologicalZ#3752: A lot of OEMs don't have ivy and lock to sandy
Alcyone#2233: yeah if its a dell or something they might have never released an ivy bios
Alcyone#2233: Thats why the "grab an oem and pop in a gpu" is usually best if you plan on just leaving it alone
Racey#8574: I've always wondered why people put overclockable chips in locked oem motherboards
MythologicalZ#3752: Highest spec CPU it supports
MythologicalZ#3752: Therefore best performance :epicgamer:
Alcyone#2233: sometimes the K sku has better default clocks
Alcyone#2233: usually so minor I wouldnt pay a premium, but if they are the same price, why not
Jam#0384: yes
read bio/description#8459: Hey, I was so focused on the front panel connectors that I forgot about other things. So it turns out the CPU Fan connector is actually 5 pins and not 4 like on the intel stock cooler I have. Could anyone tell me if this could work? This is for the OptiPlex 780 board and I got the 790. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701532014884421672/unknown.png
read bio/description#8459: @Tech Helper
TheGeekster#8508: I would honestly suggest giving up on using an OEM motherboard, and try and find a bundle of CPU & motherboard
read bio/description#8459: @TheGeekster I already bought it.
TheGeekster#8508: Adapter time it is then |
read bio/description#8459: Shit.
JustinXenyx#8854: Geek you really don't know his market, it really isn't as easy as it seems
read bio/description#8459: How am I supposed to do this..
DarknessFalls229#2286: @read bio/description does the dell connector have a different size apart from the extra "pin"
read bio/description#8459: no, but the layout is different as u can see up there
DarknessFalls229#2286: well, if the diagram is correct you can take out the pins with a needle and put them back in in the order of the dell connector
read bio/description#8459: Okay, it's a no go then. I guess I need to get a fan like this right: https://allegro.pl/oferta/chlodzenie-dell-390-790-990-cn-0dw014-cpu-1155-8831029245
DarknessFalls229#2286: i mean the pins of the fan connector
DarknessFalls229#2286: it aint that hard
DarknessFalls229#2286: just dont send 12v down the wrong line
read bio/description#8459: Its a no go cuz its not my fan.
read bio/description#8459: I was gonna borrow one for now.
DarknessFalls229#2286: ah?
read bio/description#8459: I'll just get that dell one.
JustinXenyx#8854: try to get only the fan @read bio/description |
JustinXenyx#8854: should be a hell of a lot cheaper and you can use a better heatsink
read bio/description#8459: impossible. also that cooler is just 15 pln + shipping
read bio/description#8459: damn, I'd rather payup than cancel the order of the mobo, I mean, it's still the best deal overall.
TheGeekster#8508: The market of buying an OEM board thats non standard, and then trying to fit it into things it's not designed for, yeah I try to avoid it tbh, the amount of issues, adapters and weird things you have to do, often go over the cost of buying a standardised motherboard 🤔
TheGeekster#8508: I've built plenty of optiplex hybrid monsters, but i always keep it with the original case, and use a power supply adapter for the mobo, other than that, aye, i avoid that shit like the plague
read bio/description#8459: power supply adapter?
read bio/description#8459: @TheGeekster these optiplexes were sure old right?
read bio/description#8459: cuz the one I have is normal 24+4pin.
read bio/description#8459: i mean, I will have.
TheGeekster#8508: It massively varies depending on which optiplex, there's old and modern ones that use like 8/12 pin motherboard connectors but you should be fine with your particular one
read bio/description#8459: yeah, **hopefully**
read bio/description#8459: **FUCK**
read bio/description#8459: @TheGeekster i have an issue with the usb connector, glad i found it now
TheGeekster#8508: ...what's the issue?
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701536954420035604/unknown.png |
read bio/description#8459: this is the issue
TheGeekster#8508: do you have actual pictures of these? neither one of those makes sense
read bio/description#8459: idk how was this connected before
read bio/description#8459: here's the motherboard usb connector, lemme make a pic of the thing i wanna plug in
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701537473779466331/unknown.png
TheGeekster#8508: what's the model of the motherboard?
read bio/description#8459: Optiplex 790 mt
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701538196399325284/IMG_20200419_230136050.jpg
read bio/description#8459: It's blurry but hopefully u can tell what I meant
read bio/description#8459: This is the thing I wanted to connect https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701538403329769483/JPEG_20200419_230256.jpg
read bio/description#8459: Ignore the stickers lol
Jam#0384: why do you need to connect thay
read bio/description#8459: I use SD cards quite a loy
Jam#0384: it's a bunch of random front bays and a usb 2.0
read bio/description#8459: Lot* |
TheGeekster#8508: i would honestly not bother with connecting it for now, get the rest of the system running, THEN worry about that, it's an incredibly old SD card reader and would be easier to replace with a standard USB SD card reader
JustinXenyx#8854: lol i found that exact same card reader + usb thingie while cleaning up, probably game from my old Fujitsu Siemens 775 PC lmao
TheGeekster#8508: oh fuck 😂 dell parts in a fujitsu mobo
Jam#0384: I have one that Im putting in my S478 ultra shit 1c gamer pc
read bio/description#8459: this is a fujitsu siemens scaleo l lol
Jam#0384: 3.6GHz of power
read bio/description#8459: i picked it cuz its small and has that connector
read bio/description#8459: I mean I found it
read bio/description#8459: e.e what the actual fuck
read bio/description#8459: @TheGeekster There's the mobo that was originally in there, either I'm blind or idk, I can't see it there.
read bio/description#8459: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701540272533667871/775-MSI-MS-7293-V2-0-100-OK-2oV.png
read bio/description#8459: there no such 12 pin connector here
TheGeekster#8508: it's a standard USB connector with 2 extra pins on each side, just because fujitsu are fucking awkward, if you look at the black USB ports on the bottom, there is enough room on each side for the extra blank pins to not touch anything
TheGeekster#8508: it's legit just OEM being OEM
read bio/description#8459: so it should work just fine? |
TheGeekster#8508: if the USB connector fits, yes
TheGeekster#8508: *in theory*
BrownTown#4082: but oem be crazy
BrownTown#4082: so could just not at all
Racey#8574: OEM stinky
BrownTown#4082: ^
Racey#8574: too many stinky stuff
TheGeekster#8508: Pinned a message.
BrownTown#4082: best explanation ^
read bio/description#8459: i might use a different case in the end lol
read bio/description#8459: well idk for now, glad its not mobo's issue.
read bio/description#8459: my bro showed me how to switch pins
TheGeekster#8508: i appreciate the nasty case, it's a classic, but yeah not easy
read bio/description#8459: my bro shown me how to move the pins, but a price of an intel stock 1155 cooler is the same as the dell cooler, so i guess its not worth the hassle
RiIey#0001: I'm experiencing frequent random crashes on google chrome out of nowhere. Ive crashed 4 times this morning and multiple tabs crash as well. what could be the cause |
Jam#0384: The easy solution is to restart pc or remove all version of chrome running in task manager
Xbox 360 1953#2640: how do i check if my hdd is dying or not
Jam#0384: is it dying
Xbox 360 1953#2640: i dunno
Xbox 360 1953#2640: its always loud but always has been
CaptainFlanger#2563: Check CrystalDiskInfo. It could tell something about your hard disk drive.
read bio/description#8459: @Tech Helper Hi, I recently asked about this, got an answer but no one really said why and from what I've seen on the net the answers vary. So here's the question:
Intel HD 2000 or nVidia GeForce 8400GS Rev1
Which one is better **and why?**
Jam#0384: We did answer
Jam#0384: 8400GS
TheGeekster#8508: https://lmgtfy.com/?q=intel+hd2000+vs+8400gs
Jam#0384: Why? because it performs better
read bio/description#8459: @Jam in what |
Jam#0384: In virtually everything
tdp2612#3835: in use
read bio/description#8459: cuz what i see on the internet says the opposite
TheGeekster#8508: Please look it up yourself and put some effort into it.
read bio/description#8459: I said i did.
tdp2612#3835: why get an 8400gs though
tdp2612#3835: i got one because frobot, budget basically did the same
read bio/description#8459: @tdp2612 i already have one
read bio/description#8459: found it
tdp2612#3835: then put it in
read bio/description#8459: and before I get an actual good GPU I need something in there
tdp2612#3835: and test it
tdp2612#3835: and see what its likecompared to intergrated
JustinXenyx#8854: Anything is unironically better than intel hd 2000 @read bio/description
JustinXenyx#8854: It's like basic display output trash |
tdp2612#3835: takes 30 mins to run a couple 3dmark benches
TheGeekster#8508: you have both gpu's, why are you asking this? just TRY it, use the integrated, try what you want to play, then plug in the GPU, and TRY what you want to play, see what works
read bio/description#8459: cuz i dont wanna waste time, so I ask people with actual experience.
tdp2612#3835: pls
tdp2612#3835: jam is going to kill himself
TheGeekster#8508: if you don't want to waste time, just BUY a computer
TheGeekster#8508: if you have an actual interest in tech, computers, gaming, etc etc, then experiment and try, what else are you doing during the world wide lockdown? i mean come on
read bio/description#8459: uhh as in a pre-built? no thanks
read bio/description#8459: ever heard of online school
Jam#0384: @TheGeekster Do you feel my pain
TheGeekster#8508: Mhmm, felt it for a while
Jam#0384: I'm just trying to fish in animal crossing
read bio/description#8459: but like, what are the significant differences between these two gpus that you guys could point out
TheGeekster#8508: LOOK. IT. UP.
tdp2612#3835: https://tenor.com/view/animal-crossing-villager-nintendo-shaking-shook-gif-13481124 |
read bio/description#8459: chill
tdp2612#3835: YOU HAVE BOTH
Jam#0384: One is Terascale and one is Tesla
tdp2612#3835: PLEASE JUST TEST IT
JustinXenyx#8854: they're not worth pointing out, both are shit but the 8400GS is less shit @read bio/description
read bio/description#8459: @Jam wait what
Jam#0384: They both suck
tdp2612#3835: MAKE A FUCKING VIDEO OUT OF IT AND HELP OTHER PEOPLE
Jam#0384: What do you mean wait what
read bio/description#8459: "terascale"
JustinXenyx#8854: Jesus fuck stop screaming @tdp2612
Jam#0384: They're made by two different companies
tdp2612#3835: OK
Jam#0384: Terascale architecture for HD 2000
read bio/description#8459: @JustinXenyx ok thanks |
Jam#0384: BRUH
Jam#0384: What
Jam#0384: he gets thanks but I told you the same thing twice
Jam#0384: Once today
Jam#0384: once the first time you asked
read bio/description#8459: wait terascale is in hd 2000? that doesnt make sense
read bio/description#8459: cuz he didnt scream
Jam#0384: Terascale 1.0
Jam#0384: When did i scream
Jam#0384: while telling you the answer
Jam#0384: the first time
TheGeekster#8508: Huh, it's actually weird, I looked it up, and it looks like the Intel HD2000 igpu is actually better than the 8400gs, by apperently 42%, on some games it gets 5fps where the 8400gs gets about 3
tdp2612#3835: mines got a hd 2000 in it
Jam#0384: Thought he meant HD 2000 as in ATI
tdp2612#3835: should i take the 970 out and run a fucking benchmark |
TheGeekster#8508: lol yes, do it, minecraft 4k on igpu
TheGeekster#8508: (in 2020 obviously cuz we need another in 2020 video!)
Jam#0384: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701906506873831475/unknown.png
Jam#0384: Anyways
Jam#0384: yeah
tdp2612#3835: :Frobot:
Jam#0384: And nevermind, it's NOT Terascale it's Intel shit
Jam#0384: Too many HD
TheGeekster#8508: it's actually better than the 8400gs tho 😩
Jam#0384: Well
Jam#0384: I remember using one and getting like 2 fps in doom 3
Jam#0384: where the 8400gs got more
Jam#0384: like, 30
TheGeekster#8508: i miss my 8400gs 😦 he was a good card
Jam#0384: can you map a keyboard to gc controller in dolphin |
Jam#0384: like, change the buttons
Budget#8265: @read bio/description I am banning you from this section
Budget#8265: @Jam We did answer his question
Jam#0384: yes
Budget#8265: I have tested both and the 8400GS has better drivers, Cuda acceleration, and i did a video on it showing current day performance
Deleted User#0000: Why can’t I read any other messages from this chat?
Budget#8265: TechHelpers should not have to be pinged every 5 minutes for questions they have already anwered
Budget#8265: @Deleted User Reload client
Deleted User#0000: K
Jam#0384: Questions they answered only 24 hours ago
Jam#0384: not even last week
Budget#8265: I warned him for this before
Budget#8265: So he has been banned from this section. in Response he has left the server
Budget#8265: I think he was trolling to a degree anyways
Jam#0384: I just think he was a kid tbh |
Jam#0384: But it was getting annoying
TheGeekster#8508: Tbf, I will now be purchasing a geforce 8400gs for hard core rollercoaster tycoon 2
Jam#0384: 8400gs is the fastest gaming card
Jam#0384: we all know this
mi3night#2562: pair it with i5 8400
mi3night#2562: and ddr5 8400mhz
TheGeekster#8508: Nah mate, Ryzen 1700, 64gb ram, nvme drive, 8400gs
mi3night#2562: aw ok
Jam#0384: thats an epic gaming moment
Budget#8265: 3700X + 8400GS was my setuo]
Jam#0384: its sad because i can do that
mi3night#2562: same but with 6 cores
Budget#8265: The Celeron D is my fave CPU I have used 😄
Jam#0384: I'm really in love with that Xeon E5450 I have
mi3night#2562: core i7D when |
Jam#0384: and the pentium e5700
Jam#0384: That $75 MSRP pentium is great for WinXP 32bit
TheGeekster#8508: I have a server with 2 x5650's but people keep bitching about the minecraft server dying 😦
Jam#0384: :(
tdp2612#3835: i bet that would be better than my mates
tdp2612#3835: hes got an fx 8300 or 8350 or something like
tdp2612#3835: i cant remember which one but its one of the 8 cores
JustinXenyx#8854: thing that i personally don't get is, how come he did get banned but dollar doesn't? he actually asks etc, dollar is just outright retarded with his "my i5 good everyone else wrong" attitude @Budget
Budget#8265: @JustinXenyx I dont think i saw any of the pings for that
tdp2612#3835: yeah i dont think he was really trying to be annoying, its just he sort of was
Budget#8265: If you @ me when it happens next i will sort it all out
tdp2612#3835: is dollar banned from this channel?
JustinXenyx#8854: Scroll up in normal for a bit, you'll see
Budget#8265: I dont believe so
Budget#8265: Oh i know Dollar Deals Terrible Deals Tech |
Budget#8265: So dont worry i have told him why the i5 650 is bad
Jam#0384: I dont think he got the memo
JustinXenyx#8854: he definitely didn't
Jam#0384: only today he was saying how great it is
Deleted User#0000: Should i get a pc with a 3700x and a 5700xt thicc III ultra or one with a 2070 and a 3600?
Jam#0384: What do you want to do with it
Jam#0384: For gaming, 2070
Jam#0384: In fact, 2070 in general
Jam#0384: the NVENC helps a lot with streaming
Jam#0384: and 6 fast cores and 12 threads are enough for most things
JustinXenyx#8854: 3700x won't be worth it over the 3600 in a more gaming like scenario, 5700XT also is a bit worse than the 2070 and the 2070 has way better drivers @Deleted User
Jam#0384: ^
tdp2612#3835: ^^
tdp2612#3835: theyre both solid cards, but even with the improvements the drivers on amds side still have a bit of a way to come
Jam#0384: justin is smart he knows even more than me |
Jam#0384: Tech helper god
Jam#0384: Not that i didnt know that but in general :epicgamer:
Deleted User#0000: @JustinXenyxthing is i can get the 3700x and the 3600 for the same price
Deleted User#0000: Both those pcs i mentioned are at the same price point
Jam#0384: Then do 3700x and 2070
Jam#0384: wait
Jam#0384: prebuilts
Deleted User#0000: Yeah
Jam#0384: how much are they listed for
Deleted User#0000: Same price
Jam#0384: what price
Deleted User#0000: 1250
Jam#0384: Bruh
Jam#0384: that's not that bad but also
Jam#0384: hmm |
Jam#0384: 1250 USD or GDP
Deleted User#0000: €
Jam#0384: Oh that's not bad then
Deleted User#0000: Well the one with the 3700x is actually 1200
Jam#0384: I'd get the 3600 one
Deleted User#0000: With a meg x570 unify
Jam#0384: because it has the 2070
Jam#0384: You're gaming right?
Deleted User#0000: Thing is i already got the one with the 2070
Deleted User#0000: And tbg i dislike the 2070 a bit
Jam#0384: in what way
Jam#0384: Performance?
Deleted User#0000: Yeah
Jam#0384: the 5700XT is weaker
JustinXenyx#8854: 5700XT won't be faster |
JustinXenyx#8854: 5700XT is barely under a 2070
Jam#0384: 2070Super is basically one of the fastest cards
Deleted User#0000: Saw some tests. The 5700xt gets more fps on average than the 2070
Jam#0384: 2070
Jam#0384: not 2070super
Deleted User#0000: Yeah
Jam#0384: There's not many cards faster than yours on the market dude
Deleted User#0000: I know but i like switching it up
Jam#0384: That has nothing to do with performance though
Deleted User#0000: Holup ill send stats of both pcs
Deleted User#0000: MB: MSI MEG X570 UNIFY
RAM: HYPERX 4x8 GB DDR4 3200 MHz
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
Speicher: 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD
Grafik: XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT THICC III Ultra |
Netzteil: CORSAIR RM750x
Gehäuse: Sharkoon LIT200
Deleted User#0000: And the other is
Deleted User#0000: R5 3600
Deleted User#0000: Strix 2070
Deleted User#0000: Aorus elite b450
Deleted User#0000: 1tb sandisk ssd
Jam#0384: I'd get the 2070 still
Jam#0384: or yknow
Deleted User#0000: And also one stick of 16gigs 3200nhz
Jam#0384: Oh ONE Stick
Jam#0384: that's bad
Deleted User#0000: Overall the one with the 3700x costs more
Deleted User#0000: Has more higher quality parts
Jam#0384: That doesnt matter for your gaming performance really |
Deleted User#0000: Also a 1tb 970 evo
Jam#0384: They should both perform about the same, except for the fact that the 3600 is in single channel
Jam#0384: The Single channel is BAD
Jam#0384: 1 stick is bad
Deleted User#0000: Overall the one with the 3700x is still gonna get more fps
Jam#0384: Just get whatever you want.
Deleted User#0000: Obv gonna be more stability issues with the 5700xt though
Jam#0384: Why are you asking questions if you already know what you want to get
Deleted User#0000: Seeing if you guys could convince me otherwise
Deleted User#0000: I buy 2 pcs a month and sell em for others
Deleted User#0000: So i always ask the tech savy dudes here
Deleted User#0000: Smarter than me yknow
JustinXenyx#8854: > I buy 2 pcs a month and sell em for others
@Deleted User what
JustinXenyx#8854: why would you do that |
Deleted User#0000: Profit i guess
Deleted User#0000: Always buy better pcs
Deleted User#0000: Went from a 1080 and an i5 to the 2070 i got rn with an r5 3600
Jam#0384: only way you could make profit from reselling like that is ripping someone off
Jam#0384: because you're not getting anything super cheao
Jam#0384: it seems mega average
Deleted User#0000: Nah i just buy the cheap ones
Jam#0384: Those systems are not great deals
Jam#0384: they're just average
Jam#0384: slightly above what you could make with your own money
Deleted User#0000: I bought the one i got rn(r5 3600, 2070, 1tb ssd) for 1050 including a 4k monitor, omen headset and razer nommo 2.0 speaker
Jam#0384: oh it included the monitor
Deleted User#0000: Gotten offers on the pc alone for 1200
Jam#0384: that is nice
Deleted User#0000: 1250* |
Jam#0384: Who is offering that
Jam#0384: cringe price
Deleted User#0000: In € its still a pretty good deal
Jam#0384: € is almost same value of US
Deleted User#0000: Yeah
Jam#0384: So it's a fairly mediocre deal
Jam#0384: Nothing crazy
Deleted User#0000: What would you pay for it?
Jam#0384: Me? I dunno 1K tops
Deleted User#0000: This is the pc https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701919045632655442/20200415_212901.jpg
Jam#0384: I don't care about RGB
Jam#0384: Doesn't add value to me
Jam#0384: So
Deleted User#0000: Lottaaaa rainbow puke
Jam#0384: I wouldn't care about that stuff |
Deleted User#0000: Idk as long as i make profit. Resell them usually for 100€ more
Deleted User#0000: So i cant really complain
Jam#0384: Weird lmao
Deleted User#0000: Got a bunch of monitors and keyboards and such laying around though. I always buy setups not the pcs alone
Deleted User#0000: And the setups themselves should always cost 1100 tops
Jam#0384: I'd love a 4K monitor for goods and gaffs, but I wouldn't pay anywhere near MSRP
Deleted User#0000: Planning on buying a pc with a 2080 and an i5 9600k though for 1250
Deleted User#0000: Id sell mine for like 150
Jam#0384: Not worth shipping to US
Jam#0384: But nice offer
Jam#0384: I'd pay that
Deleted User#0000: Usually i just give them to my parents though
Deleted User#0000: Helps them out
Deleted User#0000: Its not a dependable way of making money though
Deleted User#0000: Thanks for the help. Guess i might stick with the 2070 |
Budget#8265: @Deleted User Eyo
Deleted User#0000: give me sec, getting screenshot for you
Budget#8265: Alrighty 👍
Muse#0557: Do we know what country he is from
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701986182992625764/Specs.PNG
Budget#8265: America given the $
Deleted User#0000: United States, Oregon.
Budget#8265: Oh lord right
Budget#8265: So honest advice, this system is beyond saving
Budget#8265: It'd end up on a budget channel like mine for retro use
Budget#8265: Right, so dont throw any more money at it
Budget#8265: Your BEST bet for performance is to:
Budget#8265: LGA1155 Motherboard - $30
Core i5 2500 - $15
Generic LGA1155 Cooler - $5 |
350W FSP PSU - $10
Generic Case - Literally anything you can find
RAM (DDR3) Your system may be using it just get 8GB Minimum
Then blow the rest on a GPU like an RX470 or GTX1050
Budget#8265: That will get you awesome performance on the cheap 👍
Budget#8265: No matter what you buy right now your system will hold you back so much that youll be wasting money
Deleted User#0000: I already have a Core i3 2130 with heatsink
Budget#8265: Then you're already 1 step ahead
Deleted User#0000: And then I already have a case
Budget#8265: Looks like you already know which route to go down then
Deleted User#0000: I need a Power Supply Unit
Muse#0557: Fsp or Delta
JustinXenyx#8854: honest opinion, that Athlon system is doomed. Realistically there is NO point in upgrading it, as AM3 parts are expensive as fuck and not worth it
Budget#8265: ^
Budget#8265: Justin is with us then |
Deleted User#0000: I found the max processor upgrade for 30$ @JustinXenyx
JustinXenyx#8854: Salvaging RAM and HDD will get you out of the park to some extent, but even then you've got a lot of stuff to do
Budget#8265: Yeah the max CPU is probably worse in general use than the i3
Budget#8265: As dire single core and aincient architecture
JustinXenyx#8854: To be quite fair, you can basically toss out the i3 aswell
Budget#8265: The i3 would tide him over for a while imo
Jam#0384: Just keep to test the motherboard
JustinXenyx#8854: Dual cores are long dead and you shouldn't be using one
Budget#8265: So he can save for an i7
HappySlappyFace#0441: @JustinXenyx Realtek RTS5733DMQ ssd controller, good or na
ADATA SU750
Deleted User#0000: I'm basically on life support, I'm surviving on this Athlon system
Budget#8265: @JustinXenyx Far from true, i set up an i5 3570T system the other day and its awesome Hypre Threading man
Budget#8265: Its insanely good
Budget#8265: Like for £10 |
Jam#0384: That Athlon system is beyond salvation
Budget#8265: ^
JustinXenyx#8854: Far from true? Have you seen most video games from 2018 onwards? :Hahahahaha:
Budget#8265: yeah look at the 1155 parts list i gave above
JustinXenyx#8854: It's not bad for desktop use but you will shit yourself in gaming
Budget#8265: @JustinXenyx It did run a quick PUBG and 3D Mark Test, but yeah its not like its a bad CPU
Budget#8265: Runs DOOM well
Muse#0557: How big of a difference is there between a 3570t and 2400
Deleted User#0000: Isn't dangerous cheeping out on the PSU?
Budget#8265: BIG
Budget#8265: i5 is 2c/4t
Budget#8265: @Deleted User yeah but i never said cheap out
Budget#8265: I said FSP or Delta
Muse#0557: I meant performance
JustinXenyx#8854: Cheaping out on a PSU is basically suicide @Deleted User |
Budget#8265: ^
Jam#0384: FSP or Delta is fine
JustinXenyx#8854: If the PSU goes your system likely goes aswell
Deleted User#0000: 35$ seems pretty cheep
Budget#8265: Hardly
Jam#0384: It's called smart budgeting
Budget#8265: PSU is all about brand and model
Budget#8265: Wattage means very little if the brand isnt reputable
Jam#0384: Small name + good quality = low price
Deleted User#0000: So I should go for delta power supplys?
Muse#0557: FSPs and Deltas and cheap because they are pulled from oems that are bought it bulk, they are high quality and last a long time
Budget#8265: Delta and FSP make great PSUs
Budget#8265: and are always used in servers and oem systems
Deleted User#0000: Alright, so I already have the core i3, the case, and the heatsink, as well a hdd and ram, I just need the motherboard.
JustinXenyx#8854: To be quite fair, i think you should save up and then go out to build a proper PC |
Budget#8265: I think 1155 will tide him over for a while
Budget#8265: Cause its gonna cost sub $100
Jam#0384: with 4 cores
Budget#8265: and a huge upgrade
Jam#0384: I'd grab an i5 for cheap if possible
Deleted User#0000: Justin, the only PC I have is that Athlon PC I just screenshotted @JustinXenyx
Jam#0384: that i3 is usableish but far from ideal
Deleted User#0000: So, I'm not waiting any longer than I need too
Budget#8265: and he has no real income
JustinXenyx#8854: I wasn't saying not to build a cheapo 1155 PC to get him out of the gate
Jam#0384: Why does it matter though? Do you have a reason why you need a PC every day regardless
Jam#0384: What are you doing that you can't do on a phone
Jam#0384: or tablet or whatever
JustinXenyx#8854: But what i meant is after that maybe save up money and then go out and build a "proper" PC
Budget#8265: Oh yeah i agree |
Budget#8265: Like @Deleted User Build this 1155 system and then save for like Ryzen
Budget#8265: 👍
Budget#8265: We all agree
Jam#0384: yes
Muse#0557: Ye
Deleted User#0000: Alright though there is something that is bugging me, you know how certain motherboard bios revisions won't allow newer processors to be used? @Budget
Budget#8265: Yeah so i said Core i5 2500 max
Budget#8265: Cause itll work on like all boards ever
Budget#8265: and is very cheap
JustinXenyx#8854: Upgrading 1155 to an i7 barely makes sense now, the i3 surely will perform better and if he already has it that's saved money right there. If the i3 can serve him well for what he wants to do, saving up for a "proper" PC isn't going to be hard at all
Deleted User#0000: And you don't know what bios revision the motherboard is goig to ship with and you would need to use the older processors to make it support it
Deleted User#0000: And to update it
Budget#8265: Core i5 2500 is like an early Sandy CPU itll work on everything
Muse#0557: I thought they were sticking with the i3 for now
Budget#8265: Same with Core i3 you have |
Budget#8265: Its a 2100 series
Budget#8265: Itll work on 99% of boards you buy
Deleted User#0000: I'm talking about Ryzen
Budget#8265: Also 1155 is gonan be used chances are someone will have updated the BIOS
Muse#0557: Oh
Budget#8265: Ryzen boards are usually shipped with Updated BIOS straight from the manufacturer
Budget#8265: I know ASUS has this in their website stuff along with Asrock, and MSI
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh and you can get bios flashing kits aswell from AMD
Budget#8265: ^
JustinXenyx#8854: they still do those
Muse#0557: Maybe specify its ryzen if we haven't mentioned it in a while
Muse#0557: Rip
Budget#8265: AMD will literally ship you a CPU to flash a BIOS
Muse#0557: Tomorrow
Muse#0557: When I'm functional |
Muse#0557: Can I get some help with a bitch of a 1155 board
Deleted User#0000: So a Delta or FSP 300 watt ATX power supply?
Budget#8265: 350Watt ideally
Budget#8265: They sell for £7 here
Budget#8265: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PSU-350W-FSP-GROUP-FSP350-50GMN-POWER-SUPPLY-COMPUTER-PC-ATX-PSU/333576748055?hash=item4daab93c17:g:fasAAOSwVhxemF~S
Deleted User#0000: AlliExpress is great for prices **but they don't ship to the bloody US**
Budget#8265: They should do
Deleted User#0000: I checked
Deleted User#0000: It says right on the page
Jam#0384: yes they do
Muse#0557: I'd assume shipping costs would outweigh the savings
Jam#0384: lmao
Jam#0384: Maybe not right now
Budget#8265: But the US has such a good market that you dont need to order from them
Jam#0384: but I've literally bought from Aliexpress and im in US |
Muse#0557: Budget what's a good fsp or delta with a 6 pin
Budget#8265: Just search FSP/Delta PSU
Budget#8265: and find one
Deleted User#0000: Waaait.. I just remembered I have a corsair power supply unit
Budget#8265: Admitedly im guilty of using a molex to 6Pin as that copes fine
Deleted User#0000: I think 400 watts?
Budget#8265: Well there you go fella
Budget#8265: Dya know what one
Muse#0557: ._.
Deleted User#0000: Its a 500 watt
Budget#8265: what model
Budget#8265: Please dont be VS or CX Green
JustinXenyx#8854: Molex to 6 Pin really isn't ideal, but it's not like it's a safety hazard either
Budget#8265: *CX Green is like passable tho*
Budget#8265: Dual Molex to 6 pin aswell @JustinXenyx So like best case scenario |
Deleted User#0000: RS-500-PCAR-D3
Budget#8265: 350W with Dual Molex -> 6 Pin still running a Core i3 3220 and GTX465 fine
Budget#8265: Thats Cooler Master
Budget#8265: Seems to be an alright one from like 10 Years ago
Budget#8265: Itll do
Deleted User#0000: Is it delta?
JustinXenyx#8854: that's a jikes from me chief
Budget#8265: It isnt a delta its a Cooler Master
JustinXenyx#8854: 10 yr old PSU that wasn't even great at the time isn't what i'd call ideal
JustinXenyx#8854: most ppl using molex to 6 pins are using them with lower wattage cards either way which means that single 12v wire won't need to pass a lot of current
Budget#8265: Its alright for like 350->400W according to tests
Budget#8265: but yeah not a great PSU
Deleted User#0000: Is it going to nuke my PC if its strained?
Budget#8265: Still itll do
Budget#8265: Nah |
Budget#8265: Just dont go running na RTX2080 on it
Muse#0557: I've used the Rs 500w
Budget#8265: Stick to like an RX470
Muse#0557: Its incredibly meh
JustinXenyx#8854: @TheFifthAce hey fifth, gimme some info on RS-500-PCAR-D3
Deleted User#0000: Though on some of the connectors, some of plastic has broken off
Deleted User#0000: Like sata power
Muse#0557: Mine did that too
Deleted User#0000: Little chips broke off
Budget#8265: https://www.hardwaresecrets.com/cooler-master-extreme-power-plus-500-w-power-supply-review/7/ @JustinXenyx
Muse#0557: The plastic is brittle
Budget#8265: Looks to be mediore as it is. Can deliver 500W uncomfortably. Best suited to 300->400W
Budget#8265: Factor in aging caps, and all that jazz id say good for 350W max
Budget#8265: Comfortably
Muse#0557: I used it with a 960 |
Muse#0557: I5 3470
Muse#0557: Had no issues
JustinXenyx#8854: i'd say more like 250-300w comfortably
JustinXenyx#8854: It's a lower end PSU from 2009, those don't age that well
Deleted User#0000: It says on the PSU its self 360 Watts max
Budget#8265: wot
Muse#0557: Only running at half watts? It's Meh man but not sawn in half
TheFifthAce#4128: @JustinXenyx cm?
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah it's cm
TheFifthAce#4128: group regulated enhance unit
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701991575378460763/JPEG_20200420_200350.jpg
Budget#8265: Oh you were looking at 12V Rail
Deleted User#0000: I hate how Discord takes its photo's
TheFifthAce#4128: non rated
Budget#8265: It just needs to power a Core i3 and Low Poewr GPU |
Deleted User#0000: Would intel hd 2000 graphics be better than my HD 6450?
TheFifthAce#4128: which core i3
Budget#8265: 2100
Deleted User#0000: i3 2150
Budget#8265: HD6450 is better
Deleted User#0000: Alright
Budget#8265: Ima head off though
Budget#8265: @TheFifthAce and @JustinXenyx Will help ye from here
Muse#0557: I wouldn't use a 6450
Deleted User#0000: Before you go budget
TheFifthAce#4128: better only in raw power
TheFifthAce#4128: terascale is awful
Deleted User#0000: I need to ask if this is safe
Budget#8265: Yeah whats the biz
TheFifthAce#4128: drivers are a bitch |
Budget#8265: Whats safe
Budget#8265: Terascale drivers are great on Windows XP @TheFifthAce
TheFifthAce#4128: I will literally send you an entire PC
TheFifthAce#4128: :cromge:
Budget#8265: But yeah they are awful
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701992027331756052/JPEG_20200420_200538.jpg
Budget#8265: I mean its not unsafe id still tape it off
Budget#8265: Just incase
TheFifthAce#4128: SOULOUS
TheFifthAce#4128: what is your budget
Budget#8265: As little as possible
JustinXenyx#8854: no set budget, instable income @TheFifthAce
Deleted User#0000: I just told everyone, scroll up to find it
TheFifthAce#4128: usa or no
Muse#0557: Under 100 ideally |
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701992175071920168/unknown.png
Muse#0557: Usa
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah US
Budget#8265: This is the current
Deleted User#0000: Can I still use the port budget?
TheFifthAce#4128: ok I will send you literally an entire PC
Budget#8265: No
TheFifthAce#4128: which I have said
Muse#0557: Don't use that one
TheFifthAce#4128: many fucking times
Muse#0557: Theres like 6 on the psu
TheFifthAce#4128: i5, 8gb, 380w bronze delta psu, gt 1030
Muse#0557: Use a different one and cover that with electrical tape
Budget#8265: Im off Toodles
Budget#8265: 👍 |
Muse#0557: Toodle pop
Budget#8265: Take it easy lads
Deleted User#0000: I can't pay you for it asbrasst
Budget#8265: Before i go why not
Budget#8265: If you can afford PC parts why not purchase off someone
Budget#8265: Paypal would cover you from any issues
TheFifthAce#4128: why cant you pay me for it
TheFifthAce#4128: I'm not going to ask a lot
TheFifthAce#4128: I didnt pay much for it
Deleted User#0000: Its going take me weeks or months to get all the PC parts I need
TheFifthAce#4128: or
TheFifthAce#4128: I could
TheFifthAce#4128: send you an entire PC
Deleted User#0000: I don't have consistent income
Budget#8265: Alrighty im off |
TheFifthAce#4128: ok so pay me back a bit at a time I'm not bothered
Budget#8265: If you have any financial discussions though take it to DMs though please
TheFifthAce#4128: I'll send you the PC and you can pay me back as you get the money
Budget#8265: Cheers
TheFifthAce#4128: aok
Budget#8265: Thank
Budget#8265: Toodles
TheFifthAce#4128: bye gamer
Deleted User#0000: Are you in the UK?
Muse#0557: How many times can one man say bye
TheFifthAce#4128: I am in the USA
Deleted User#0000: Thanks budget
TheFifthAce#4128: and I was told you are USA
TheFifthAce#4128: therefore I can ship you a computer
TheFifthAce#4128: also regarding pcars |
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/701994676919468082/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: pcars are not good
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Fifth be like Tom nook
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702161772395757578/IMG_20200421_150958.jpg
wiryfuture🦀#1706: is this pci-e 8x?
Lady Mipha#0611: yes
Miki2305#5707: Quick question
Miki2305#5707: Can a gt520 output to 2 monitors at the same time?
Deleted User#0000: It has 3 outputs
Deleted User#0000: The performance might suck, but you could probably do 2 monitors.
Miki2305#5707: Ok thanks!
Miki2305#5707: I just want to use a second monitor because I hate alt+tabbing always to open discord
TheGeekster#8508: @wiryfuture🦀 that's pcie 16x, but check how it's electrically wired
TheGeekster#8508: tbh anything single slot isn't gonna be fussed anyway
TheFifthAce#4128: @Miki2305 want a better gpu |
TheFifthAce#4128: I can send you an hd 5570 which destroys the gt 520 despite terascale drivers being cringe
Onii-Chan#3008: halp
Onii-Chan#3008: gpu does'nt align correctly with back case panel the gpu is higher than the panel
Onii-Chan#3008: @Tech Helper
Budget#8265: What
Budget#8265: Send a photo
Onii-Chan#3008: 1 sec
TheGeekster#8508: You'll probably just need to tuck the PCI cover in by the motherboard, different cases do it in different ways
Jam#0384: oh i think he might have a full height card in sff case
Jam#0384: half height only
Budget#8265: ^ that could be the case
Budget#8265: wait for photo
Jam#0384: ye
Onii-Chan#3008: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702204278911008941/JPEG_20200422_010821.jpg
Onii-Chan#3008: i had to tilt it a little to screw it in |
Budget#8265: Looks like you screwed it down too high up
Onii-Chan#3008: yea but there isnt a screw slot
Budget#8265: Unscrew it and line it up
Budget#8265: Whatchu mean
Jam#0384: ??
Onii-Chan#3008: the back panel when i align it properly without tilting it lower
Onii-Chan#3008: doesnt have a screw hole
Budget#8265: Its a dual slot GPU
Budget#8265: It should have holes for 2 slots
Budget#8265: Just line those up?
Budget#8265: I mean the ports still look accessable
Budget#8265: The case screams CiT £15 case though
Budget#8265: What case does this be
Onii-Chan#3008: yea but the other display ports unusable T_T
Onii-Chan#3008: Tecware nexus M |
Budget#8265: Then unscrew it and move it down
Onii-Chan#3008: so i unscrew the mobo and lower it?
Budget#8265: No dont unscrew the motherboard
Budget#8265: Unscrew the GPU
Budget#8265: Line it up better and then screw down
Onii-Chan#3008: ok ill be right back gonna turn off my pc
Onii-Chan#3008: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702206261072101446/JPEG_20200422_011654.jpg
Onii-Chan#3008: Pcie slot didnt align
Budget#8265: It should line up
Budget#8265: As MATX
Onii-Chan#3008: Yea the io panel aligned
Onii-Chan#3008: But the panela dont
Onii-Chan#3008: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702209758131912844/JPEG_20200422_013008.jpg
Onii-Chan#3008: No idea whats even happening
Budget#8265: Looks useable there |
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702210350531084468/unknown.png
Budget#8265: Seems to line up
Budget#8265: @Onii-Chan
tdp2612#3835: it does seem very high though
Onii-Chan#3008: Yea now it does
Onii-Chan#3008: Before that doesnt even show display
Onii-Chan#3008: When i plug it to the furthest
Onii-Chan#3008: Thanks for the help guys really helps alot XD i nvr got this problem before while building
Onii-Chan#3008: now i can plug in my vr
Onii-Chan#3008: https://tenor.com/view/love-ya-gif-9415540
JokerJonno#0662: Ok.. opinions plz... if there's anyone around?
TheGeekster#8508: Ask away
JokerJonno#0662: What's going to perform better? This setup, or an A10-5700 on a GA-F2A58M-HD2 board? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702221408973095042/Capture.PNG
Yannikau#9606: This CPU ist better, the A10 has less cores
JokerJonno#0662: yeah, it's also the horrible 6 core beast that runs stupidly hot no matter what cooler you put on it.. |
TheGeekster#8508: I mean... you aren't gonna get *much* out of either of them tbh, but the FX6350 will be better
Budget#8265: Does the A10 even have L3 Cache?
JokerJonno#0662: So basically put up with the constant high fan speed and heat? Roll on payday when I can get me a Ryzen setup....
Budget#8265: Yeah the A10 has no L3 Cache at all
Budget#8265: The only thing the A10 does have is better GPU Drivers i believe
Yannikau#9606: The FX doesn´t have any kind of GPU as far as I know
JokerJonno#0662: Yeah it does, a basic one tho..
JokerJonno#0662: Anyone wanna trade the A10, FX and three supporting motherboards for a basic Ryzen3 and board? 😂
TheGeekster#8508: 😩 save up man, put up with it, save up, get ryzen, least it works for now
JustinXenyx#8854: The FX wipes the floor with the A10, but both aren't ideal
JokerJonno#0662: > The FX wipes the floor with the A10, but both aren't ideal
@JustinXenyx you’re tellin me! The FX sits between 70-90 under moderate load, and the A10 isn’t that great of a gaming chip
JokerJonno#0662: I suppose my GPU doesn’t help in that sense either but still..
TheFifthAce#4128: @JokerJonno sell both and buy sandy bridge or ryzen
TheFifthAce#4128: why are you keeping either of them |
TheFifthAce#4128: just sell them
TheFifthAce#4128: sandy is cheap as fuck
JokerJonno#0662: I used to have an i7-4770K and MSI gaming board, but the power supply went bang and took them both out... had to sink back to the FX just so I had a pc to use!
TheFifthAce#4128: gaming
TheGeekster#8508: we must all do what we must do
JokerJonno#0662: My original system was the i7, plus two GTX 670 ti I think they were in SLI... psi blew the lot
TheGeekster#8508: fuck, that... must have been impressive explosion
JokerJonno#0662: @TheGeekster kinda.. was a very loud bang 😥 made me and the wife almost shit ourselves that someone had shot the front door!
TheGeekster#8508: damn son, damn, and.... DNS record? DNS records are a thing... backend api... is another thing
JustinXenyx#8854: > fuck, that... must have been impressive explosion
the thing that i'm thinking isn't how impressive it was but rather how bad the PSU was lmao
Racey#8574: lmao
JokerJonno#0662: Tbf, it was only a 500w PSU I kept saying I needed to upgrade and just never did.. was my own fault really, I ran that system hard too
JokerJonno#0662: Wasn’t even a bronze level, was a Chinese generic that came with the case 🤦♂️
Budget#8265: Wow |
TheGeekster#8508: https://tenor.com/view/you-earned-that-shit-you-earned-it-earned-it-believe-in-yourself-confident-gif-7665654
Budget#8265: It can join the good PSU pile
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702231308935364688/unknown.png
JokerJonno#0662: Oh it got launched good and proper... into a wall, at speed, didn’t look like a psu after lol
JokerJonno#0662: also not my proudest tech moment... was one of those mistakes that you tell all your mates not to do, promise yourself that you won't do yet still do.
IABP#2004: **ATX-500**
Jam#0384: Hot
Jam#0384: I run most stuff on shit psus
Jam#0384: But usually way below their max wattage
Jam#0384: Which is why I get away with it
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I want to bash my head against a wall, the req.body in my expressjs app is undefined, still
Deleted User#0000: > Oh i know Dollar Deals Terrible Deals Tech
@Budget I have found good deals, but my computer was not one of them.
Budget#8265: My complaint was with you spamming this chat according to tech helpers @Deleted User
Deleted User#0000: I didn't spam this chat |
Deleted User#0000: I didn't spam any chat
JustinXenyx#8854: > My complaint was with you spamming this chat according to tech helpers
@Budget my personal complain was that he spatters out nonsense all the time
Deleted User#0000: My "nonsense" has facts to prove that it isn't nonsense.
Deleted User#0000: But I am upgrading the CPU so I can have a better game recording experience.
Budget#8265: So you're getting a Xeon and some sort of NVENC Capable GPU
Budget#8265: or AMD VCE?
Deleted User#0000: Xeon X3450 and GTX 1050 LP
Deleted User#0000: Does the GTX 1050 Low Profile have NVENC?
JustinXenyx#8854: again, why bother with a low profile card?
Deleted User#0000: Because my PSU is shit and I'm too lazy to put a new one in
Xbox 360 1953#2640: what
Xbox 360 1953#2640: just get a regular 1050
JustinXenyx#8854: And you say that you aren't spouting nonsense
Xbox 360 1953#2640: and make sure it doesn't have a 6pin or whatever |
Deleted User#0000: I do have 6pin
Xbox 360 1953#2640: most dont
JustinXenyx#8854: You could get a 1650 instead of a 1050 LP and still have no PSU issues
Xbox 360 1953#2640: well either way most 1050s don't need one
Deleted User#0000: Yeah I was thinking about a 1650 too
JustinXenyx#8854: You could probably even get a 4/570 used for cheap and use that
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I ran a 1050 off of a 275w dell psu
JustinXenyx#8854: a half-decent 350W PSU should be able to run a X3440 (and the other quad cores with 8 threads) with a 4/570 without much trouble
Deleted User#0000: Ok I searched the specs of the 1650 and it is much better
Deleted User#0000: And doesn't require any power connectors
Budget#8265: 1650 Super has new NVENC
Budget#8265: and would be your go to if you wanted good uality A/V as a priority
Exomilav#5434: would a DVI splitter work with 2 PCs? aslong as one is off while the other is on?
Racey#8574: my HP Compaq 8100 can handle an Xeon X3470 and a GPU and it's a 240W PSU lmfao
Weeb#8737: wow |
Jam#0384: What gpu though
Racey#8574: Idk a GT 730 Fermi so probably not that power hungry @Jam
Jam#0384: epic so a cringe gpu
Racey#8574: Not cringe
Racey#8574: Hinge
HappySlappyFace#0441: @Exomilav you play osu right
HappySlappyFace#0441: I keep forgetting lol
Budget#8265: **Heyo fellas i would like to recommend the new search tools in 3D Mark**
*I would recommend using the older deep dive options for more comparison*
This is however an awesome indicator of overall peak performance. For example i can see that the Core i5 2500 matches and FX8320 with only half the cores. This would indicate that it is a much better CPU. This only uses non OC results, so only stock boost clocks are shown in the results. So for K Series CPUs please look at the advanced search i have linked down below. It is however a good indicator of stock overall performance
The pricing can be ignored as i am fairly sure it utilized preset MSRP, however i find this to be an awesome test 👍
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DarknessFalls229#2286: ey yo @Budget i think you mean the i5 2500 matches the fx 8120 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702470639155675192/unknown.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: the i5 3570k though... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702470849537769472/unknown.png
Budget#8265: Thats the one
Budget#8265: That will be stock, you can use the advanced tools to search for Overclocks
Budget#8265: Its a better simple search than likes of Userbenchmark @DarknessFalls229 If ya follow me
DarknessFalls229#2286: uhu
DarknessFalls229#2286: Also do those scores include overclocked CPUs?
DarknessFalls229#2286: (like userbenchmark right?)
Budget#8265: nope
DarknessFalls229#2286: nice
Budget#8265: They are all stock results
Budget#8265: To search for OC you must go to advanced
Budget#8265: Spoke to a fella at 3D Mark about it, cause i was enquiring about the search function
DarknessFalls229#2286: _pssst btw, could you change the 8350 in your post to say 8120, as it IS pinned now_
DarknessFalls229#2286: but its very nice to have a reliable platform to go to |
Budget#8265: Yeah the advanced search is awesome
Budget#8265: Reccomend
Budget#8265: Not a great example but CPU Clocks compared https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702473157834965013/unknown.png
MythologicalZ#3752: cpu scores are only useful up to a point
Budget#8265: Oh yeah i agree
Budget#8265: I do say you need some knowledge but this just a better pointer than UserBenchmark
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah miles better
Budget#8265: Solid
thatubuntuguy#5914: ooh wow this is really nice
MythologicalZ#3752: especially since they arent shilling intel
thatubuntuguy#5914: thx budget
Budget#8265: I concur
Budget#8265: No worries
thatubuntuguy#5914: If only they had current used prices
thatubuntuguy#5914: that would be killer |
thatubuntuguy#5914: but alas it's just a quick search on ebay
VanGuard#4548: So how I do good OC of monitor:provo:
TheGeekster#8508: You try and set your refresh rate higher than what it's rated for, and wait as the lcd slowly dies a painful death 😊
Clode#2428: Maybe this is not related to the channel
Clode#2428: but is there any way to convert 3gp to mp3?
TheGeekster#8508: any decent video/audio converter software will work, https://www.any-audio-converter.com/any-audio-converter.php is my general go-to for quick and easy
Clode#2428: Thank you
mi3night#2562: Ok so I have no idea how to setup raid in my asus tuf x570 can someone help
mi3night#2562: Because I set up raid 0 in my previous pc
JustinXenyx#8854: did you set up a hardware raid or a software raid?
JustinXenyx#8854: what drives did you set it up with?
mi3night#2562: It’s the raid options in the bios
mi3night#2562: I used 2x 1tb hdd
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702662893660799127/image0.jpg
mi3night#2562: There’s no option for raid |
Lady Mipha#0611: advanced mode @mi3night
mi3night#2562: it's not in there either
mi3night#2562: @Lady Mipha
HappySlappyFace#0441: some donation: your mic is muted
twomad: say 1 in chat if my mic is muted
HappySlappyFace#0441: everyone like a retard: 1
tdp2612#3835: :epicgamer:
HappySlappyFace#0441: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JXnHVmP5oQ
HappySlappyFace#0441: this is live
HappySlappyFace#0441: okay that just happened lmfao https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702670545266802788/unknown.png
HappySlappyFace#0441: all i said is i have a SFX that might make 2mad laugh
tdp2612#3835: sounds like a real great server
HappySlappyFace#0441: indeed
HappySlappyFace#0441: i probably took like 4 mins lmfao
tdp2612#3835: especially if they have a bot set up just to catch people saying loli |
tdp2612#3835: how many nonces do they have to have join before they add that to a blacklistr
HappySlappyFace#0441: ikr lol
HappySlappyFace#0441: i thought i was in normal chat fuck
Exomilav#5434: would a DVI splitter work with 2 PCs? aslong as one is off while the other is on?
mi3night#2562: Ok so when I enabled xmp settings in asus x570 bios but when I get into windows cpuz says 2133mhz
mi3night#2562: Help
Muse#0557: Intel Dh55tc supports overclocking but I don't see options to change voltages, it has safestep... I'm using a x3440 how far can I take it
Muse#0557: Clocks wise
thatubuntuguy#5914: @TheGeekster Ay I'm interested in joining the folding@home thing
thatubuntuguy#5914: I'm mainly using my laptop during lockdown so it won't be a problem to run folding on my pc
thatubuntuguy#5914: would my specs be up to scratch? I can overclock my i5 back up to 4.6-4.8ghz for approx 660cb of performance if you would like
thatubuntuguy#5914: like literally its on 24/7 because rn it acts as my music server
JustinXenyx#8854: Theoretically you can fold with anything, however it's only really recommended for higher end PCs because if you have weaker hardware you're just taking folding jobs from people with higher end PCs and are doing them in slower time than what they could do
Jam#0384: Fuck the police
Jam#0384: Folding on 486 time |
Jam#0384: :epicgamer:
JustinXenyx#8854: Like in this case it isn't "every bit helps" but more rather "don't bother folding with shit hw"
thatubuntuguy#5914: so would my hardware count as shit
Jam#0384: Every bit helps if your pc is good
JustinXenyx#8854: > so would my hardware count as shit
@thatubuntuguy Not really
Jam#0384: My pc is low end
thatubuntuguy#5914: Alr should I join it then
Jam#0384: Ryzen 7 3700X is only good for 720p esports
Jam#0384: Not enough cock speed
thatubuntuguy#5914: bc I don't want to negatively impact the team
thatubuntuguy#5914: so imma get your approval first
Jam#0384: GTX 1080- HAS gddr5x
Jam#0384: Lol
Jam#0384: Gddr6 is the new thing |
Jam#0384: OBSOLETE
JustinXenyx#8854: Teams are irrelevant with folding at home @thatubuntuguy
JustinXenyx#8854: Like you don't need a team to get jobs, that's not how it works
thatubuntuguy#5914: yh I know its just geekster said that he has a team or smth so i thought it was different
thatubuntuguy#5914: I'll probably fold then
thatubuntuguy#5914: folding bois
thatubuntuguy#5914: @JustinXenyx can folding use gpu as well?
TheGeekster#8508: Folding is best on the GPU, it can run a lot more complex processes and simulations
TheGeekster#8508: We have a team set up for folding, which basically just counts all of our points into a group, that's about it, the actual work is the same for everyone, but yeah as justin said, please don't try folding on anything particularly weak, ryzen 1700 using 80% can take about 5 hours to run one unit of work (give or take)
Yannikau#9606: Could ir be possible that it gives work depending on what CPU you have? My Ryzen 5 2500U took around the same time and that one is obviously a lot weaker....
VanGuard#4548: Can you run a 2700X without a Gpu?
TheGeekster#8508: nope, it has no integrated gpu and requires a dedicated gpu
thatubuntuguy#5914: @TheGeekster oh right how do i make it use my gpu?
thatubuntuguy#5914: bc rn its using the i5 so if it runs faster on a gpu i can certainly do that
thatubuntuguy#5914: nvm i found the option |
thatubuntuguy#5914: its not detecting my gpu
TheGeekster#8508: ah might not support it potentially
Yannikau#9606: Also you rarely get any CPU workloads :/
thatubuntuguy#5914: maybe its because i'm doing the corona project
thatubuntuguy#5914: it says the corona projects are cpu projects
thatubuntuguy#5914: my cpu is pegged at 100%
Yannikau#9606: No, those can also be GPU afaik
thatubuntuguy#5914: oh right
thatubuntuguy#5914: because its not picking up my rx 470
Yannikau#9606: You just barely get any workunits
TheGeekster#8508: ah it might be a cuda only project
TheGeekster#8508: https://foldingathome.org/support/faq/installation-guides/linux/requirements/
TheGeekster#8508: huh should support the RX470 🤔
Yannikau#9606: Nah I already ran it on an RX 560X and Vega 8
thatubuntuguy#5914: uh i broke it |
thatubuntuguy#5914: changed the slot to gpu and it won't connect to client
thatubuntuguy#5914: help
thatubuntuguy#5914: oh wait restarting foldling client did the trick
thatubuntuguy#5914: aight bois folding on both cpu and gpu
thatubuntuguy#5914: wait gpu is on only 2% utilisation
thatubuntuguy#5914: what is going on
thatubuntuguy#5914: nvm its just windows being retarded
thatubuntuguy#5914: msi afterburner shows 100% util but its going up and down
thatubuntuguy#5914: fluctuating
thatubuntuguy#5914: is my gpu thermal throttling?
TheGeekster#8508: it's not standard utilisation, it's compute, not 3D, change the graphs in task manager to compute and it should show you what's happening
thatubuntuguy#5914: ooh right i see
thatubuntuguy#5914: yeah it shows like 80-90% in task manager
thatubuntuguy#5914: @TheGeekster why is it not at 100%?
thatubuntuguy#5914: even in compute its sitting at about 80-85% |
thatubuntuguy#5914: afterburner https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702849402695319562/unknown.png
TheGeekster#8508: it's... complicated, how gpu computing is done, gpu's have so many different parts and ways of operating, this processing uses one particular simulation doing one particular instruction set, it doesn't necessarily use the entire gpu
thatubuntuguy#5914: so it's not like 3d when it'd be pegged at 100% the entire time
TheGeekster#8508: nope, it runs calculations again and again, so those massive drops may be saving results, changing instructions, etc etc
TheGeekster#8508: it's a long list of things that it's doing
thatubuntuguy#5914: right gotcha
thatubuntuguy#5914: so it's normal
TheGeekster#8508: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702849775246245968/unknown.png
thatubuntuguy#5914: i just want to make the most of my hardware and make the best contribution possible
TheGeekster#8508: yeah, there's lots of tiny chunks it's working it's way through, frames of a simulation
thatubuntuguy#5914: fair enough
thatubuntuguy#5914: i'm on like 300000 points a day estimated
TheGeekster#8508: nice, but that's based on running it 24-7
TheGeekster#8508: don't cook your system by running too continuously
thatubuntuguy#5914: nah temps are good |
thatubuntuguy#5914: 72 on the i5
thatubuntuguy#5914: 70 on the 470
thatubuntuguy#5914: my cpu is doing nothing compared to my gpu
thatubuntuguy#5914: gpu is at 300k a day estimated
thatubuntuguy#5914: cpu is 25k
thatubuntuguy#5914: might only run folding on two cores of my cpu or smth idk
thatubuntuguy#5914: or just stop it on cpu
TheGeekster#8508: yeah tbh you might as well just finish & remove the CPU slot for processing, GPU is far faster and better for the sims
thatubuntuguy#5914: alright
thatubuntuguy#5914: cpu is 40 minutes remaining
thatubuntuguy#5914: gpu is 8 mins remaining
thatubuntuguy#5914: ill remove the cpu once its done
thatubuntuguy#5914: yeah i just hit finish on the cpu so it'll turn itself off
tdp2612#3835: :frobotmoment:
tdp2612#3835: i need to get mine running again |
tdp2612#3835: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/702938597874991115/Screenshot_20200423-184641.png
tdp2612#3835: Ebay knows me too well
Jam#0384: sex
Deleted User#0000: Gay sex
Muse#0557: Frobot 8400gs
Muse#0557: Omfg
Muse#0557: Give
Exomilav#5434: would a DVI splitter work with 2 PCs? aslong as one is off while the other is on?
Lady Mipha#0611: yes
Lady Mipha#0611: @Exomilav
Exomilav#5434: epic
Exomilav#5434: had to ask 3 times lol
Caleb - XPuser#7247: I'm having trouble playing Minecraft on my GMA x3100.
The Windows XP and Vista drivers can play the first version of Minecraft through 1.13.2, but not any higher.
The Windows 7 driver can play the first version through 1.7.2, then it can play 1.11.2 through 1.13.2, and then it can play 1.15 and above. |
I play on both a 1.7.10 server and a 1.15.2 server and I'm a little tired of switching OS just to play on the other server.
I haven't tested the Windows 2000 driver.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: And before you say that the performance will be terrible, it isn't, I can get a solid 20 fps on lowest settings with 1.15.2 (resolution at 320 x 200).
Caleb - XPuser#7247: And on 1.7.10 I can get a steady 40 fps at what I'd consider medium settings.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: ```performance will be terrible```
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: ```solid 20 fps on lowest settings with 1.15.2 (resolution at 320 x 200)```
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: I am curious tho, have you tried GMABooster?
Lady Mipha#0611: also the gma3100 doesn’t actually have proper support for the opengl minecraft requires
JustinXenyx#8854: > And before you say that the performance will be terrible, it isn't, I can get a solid 20 fps on lowest settings with 1.15.2 (resolution at 320 x 200).
20fps is fucking horrid in my eyes, but if you want to put up with it who am i to judge?
JustinXenyx#8854: Which OS are you using? Like legit Windows XP or? @Caleb - XPuser
JustinXenyx#8854: Because if you're using WinXP as your main OS i could imagine there being compatibility issues with newer versions of Minecraft
TheFifthAce#4128: do you like
TheFifthAce#4128: want a better pc
Caleb - XPuser#7247: I'm on Windows 10. |
Racey#8574: Minecraft requires OpenGL 2.1 and the GMA X3100 only officially supported 1.5
Racey#8574: Lol
Caleb - XPuser#7247: Do you need a photo of the latest version running on it?
Racey#8574: I had a laptop that used an X3100
Caleb - XPuser#7247: Give me a few minutes to get Minecraft started, I'll send a screenshot of it with the F3 menu open.
Racey#8574: Ran like more shit than I've ever seen lmao
Racey#8574: Also 200p
Racey#8574: My guy are you a god or something lmfao I can't see shit
Caleb - XPuser#7247: Nah, I just put up with low resolutions.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: Is this enough proof that 1.15.2 works on the GMA X3100? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/703144403874742342/unknown.png
Caleb - XPuser#7247: Ignore the fact that the fps is as low as it is.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: Anyways, does anybody know of a modded GMA X3100 driver that works on Windows 10 64 bit?
Caleb - XPuser#7247: I'd really like to get both 1.7.10 and 1.15.2 working on this laptop.
Racey#8574: Well given the memes Minecraft definitely can't run on everything and it's gotten more demanding since it's release
Racey#8574: The GMA X3100 is really old and isn't powerful enough to run games even like Minecraft at playable framerates at remotely high resolutions lmao |
Caleb - XPuser#7247: I consider the 15 fps that it normally runs at playable.
Racey#8574: Try a 4x4 texture pack, use optifine and set everything to their performance options and use like 400p
Caleb - XPuser#7247: I already use optifine.
Racey#8574: 4x4 texture pack
Racey#8574: Make everything single colour
Caleb - XPuser#7247: I don't mind the poor performance, I just want 1.7.10 and 1.15.2 to work on the same OS.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: 1.7.10 won't start at all with the Windows 7 driver but 1.15.2 will, 1.7.10 will start with the Windows Vista driver but 1.15.2 won't.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: I don't have a dual boot on this hdd so every time I wanna play on a different server I have to swap hard drives.
TheGeekster#8508: That's probably using software opengl, which is why it's fucking terrible
TheGeekster#8508: I would seriously suggest saving up for either a basic gpu, or a replacement pc
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^
JustinXenyx#8854: if my assumption is correct that's just a laptop
JustinXenyx#8854: so upgrades aren't really going to be a thing except like RAM but i think he already did that
JustinXenyx#8854: Especially when he says that his "D630" has a T7250, which is the machine he is using and D630 sounds suspiciously like a dell laptop
TheGeekster#8508: Ah... new computer it is 😩 |
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: D630 is indeed a Dell.
Bogi76#3090: i have the D630 Dell
Lady Mipha#0611: yup it is
Lady Mipha#0611: https://www.cnet.com/products/dell-latitude-d630-core-2-duo-t7250-2ghz-1gb-ram-80gb-hdd-xp-pro/specs/
thatubuntuguy#5914: I'm actually on more points a day since i turned the cpu off
thatubuntuguy#5914: probably because the gpu can get instructions more quickly as the cpu is not at 100%
thatubuntuguy#5914: core 2 is at like 10% while the gpu is seeing 96-98% utilisation
Lady Mipha#0611: Yes
Lady Mipha#0611: also because you can do more compute on a gpu sometimes
thatubuntuguy#5914: at 360k estimated with just gpu
thatubuntuguy#5914: 350k with gpu and cpu
Deleted User#0000: as far as I recall, I managed to run minecraft on one of those old laptops... at the absolute lowest settings, at 2 chunks on Lubuntu and at a pretty low resolution
TheGeekster#8508: yeah but, that's not realllyyy running it 🤔 that's like saying i've done a marathon, by walking, over 4 years slowly
Deleted User#0000: and it was an older version of minecraft of course, I think it was 1.8 java
Deleted User#0000: > yeah but, that's not realllyyy running it 🤔 that's like saying i've done a marathon, by walking, over 4 years slowly |
@TheGeekster pretty much
Deleted User#0000: altough, I think it ran at 60fps most of the time, it just looked like crap and you could barely see a damn thing
Deleted User#0000: it was at the same level of the 3ds version in the early days
Caleb - XPuser#7247: I run it at 320 x 200 with everything else on lowest settings and rarely hit 30 fps.
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean if you can struggle through that then that's on you. Coming back to the actual issue, couldn't you just force Win7 drivers on the Windows 10 install?
JustinXenyx#8854: Windows is pretty surprising when it comes to driver compatibility, if the 7 driver is the one with the best support why not just install it directly?
JustinXenyx#8854: Modded drivers are going to be instable or might plainly refuse to work with Win10 so i'd save yourself the pain
MarcosCodas#6375: Hey, guys. Just wanted to share some unexpected surprises from my trip to "no Google and no Facebook code in my OS or apps" land. I've installed /e/, a de-Googled Android fork, and no proprietary apps from Google or Facebook. While it's true that my on-screen time has gone down, I've never, ever gone this long without charging any smartphone. I'm also using Bluetooth constantly (smartwatch and headphones). I think it's a very impressive showing, and quite telling of just how much resources all the background telemetry hog up on our phones. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/703252929280475166/photo_2020-04-24_10-04-48.jpg
Budget#8265: Pinned a message.
Budget#8265: Genuinely intresting ^
MarcosCodas#6375: Cheers, bud! I'm making content related to privacy, telemetry, tracking, open source, etc. But it's all in Spanish. Might share anyway later. It really is quite amazing
MarcosCodas#6375: The findings are amazing, I meant to say. My content is so-so, hahaha
MarcosCodas#6375: By the way, this isn't some amazing top-of-the-line phone. It's a $170 Xiaomi Redmi Note 7.
MarcosCodas#6375: Snapdragon 660, 4GB RAM
tdp2612#3835: are you still able to reinstall select google/facebook stuff back on? |
MarcosCodas#6375: Yep
tdp2612#3835: like you could do with a kindle, putting play services back on and then having all your google stuff available
MarcosCodas#6375: /e/ provides an alternatives to Google Services Framework called MicroG, which allows you to run all apps that depend on it, but without proprietary Google code
Currency Converter Bot#4703: Command not recognized...
MarcosCodas#6375: However, if you want to, you can add stuff back on
MarcosCodas#6375: Kinda defeats the purpose, I'd say, but you can
tdp2612#3835: and it doesnt do anything funky with gps or anything
MarcosCodas#6375: No, this is a fork of LineageOS, so it uses most base code from that and AOSP
MarcosCodas#6375: Just removes the proprietary stuff and telemetry
MarcosCodas#6375: I haven't noticed anything that doesn't work
MarcosCodas#6375: It has to be said that, like any incursion into flashing a custom ROM, there is quite a bit of tech know-how involved, particularly if you want to do it on a device that isn't officially supported, like mine. I had to create my own repos with the device, vendor and kernel code for my phone, and then compile the build and flash it. But if you have a device that is officially supported, it's as easy as just flashing any other ROM
JustinXenyx#8854: i mean, while i do find that somewhat interesting i personally couldn't really give less of a damn for performance reasons
JustinXenyx#8854: My LG G6 with a battery that has been used for 16 months lasts like a solid 7 days given that i do use my phone rather rarily
MarcosCodas#6375: Oh, I didn't do this for performance reasons. I did this for privacy reasons. I work in IT, and more and more, Google, Apple, Facebook and Microsoft are using customer data to drive advertising business (as well as some other less savory stuff)
MarcosCodas#6375: I'm moving all of my customers onto open source platforms, moving my personal work flow to open source as well |
MarcosCodas#6375: I no longer offer services oriented toward Facebook platforms (like social media management)
MarcosCodas#6375: I just thought it was a nice little bonus, that aside from the fact that I'm not giving my data over to be used to manipulate politics and sell me crap I don't need, I'm also getting more usability out of my battery
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm so glad steam has progressed to allow me to play multiplayer on a singleplayer game :Hahahahaha: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/703268031895306351/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: how does this remote play together thing work
wiryfuture🦀#1706: does steam create a virtual input or something
Deleted User#0000: Anyone here knows how to Port Forward on WinBox?
Deleted User#0000: I dont really know how to work with this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/703272673182089358/unknown.png
Caleb - XPuser#7247: @JustinXenyx I already use the Win7 driver on Win10, the problem is it doesn't work with Minecraft 1.7.10 and I need to play on 1.7.10 and 1.15.2.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: However, there is a bigger problem now.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: The CPU has underclocked itself to 600MHz, down from 2GHz.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: The voltage is down to 0.85 volts, down from 1.075 at minimum and 1.75 at maximum.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: Sorry, meant 1.175 at maximum.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: Help?
Caleb - XPuser#7247: Turns out that the power brick causes this. Odd.
Sentient Potato#6003: Guess you could say it was |
Sentient Potato#6003: *bricked*
VanGuard#4548: How do I oc a 9400F I'm at my cousin's house and he wants it to 3.1 not 2.9
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Isn't that a locked chip
tdp2612#3835: i think you need a nice board and you can force them to run in boost mode, but thats it
VanGuard#4548: He has a Tuf Z390
Jam#0384: The cpu is still locked
Jam#0384: Doesn’t matter what board he has
JustinXenyx#8854: 9400F is locked, you can't OC it @VanGuard
JustinXenyx#8854: I dunno if you know this, but with Intel chips you need a K part to overclock
JustinXenyx#8854: Ryzen basically threw that idea out and made all of the Ryzen chips overclockable so i can get why people would think Intel has done something similar
Racey#8574: Get a 9350K
Alcyone#2233: it should be boosting to 3.9ghz all core on its own
Alcyone#2233: if theres no or light load it will drop to base clocks or below
BeepBeepZangoose#4712: I have an old hp Compaq 6200 (i3, 6g Ram) that has massive performance issues, would cleaning it up and putting a newer graphics card help much or is something that old not gonna be too salvageable?
BeepBeepZangoose#4712: I was thinking a 1050ti low profile but suggestions are appreciated |
Jam#0384: What i3
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^
Lady Mipha#0611: @BeepBeepZangoose
Jam#0384: or at the very least what generation
BeepBeepZangoose#4712: Intel 2120
Jam#0384: Get an i5-2400 it’s like $20 and will work miles better
Jam#0384: And then the 1050ti
BeepBeepZangoose#4712: How would I do that
Jam#0384: What do you mean
BeepBeepZangoose#4712: I'm bad at computers sorry
BeepBeepZangoose#4712: Like do I just replace that part or is that a whole new computer
Jam#0384: Replace the part
Jam#0384: You will also need thermal compound but it’s also like $4
Jam#0384: the i5 has twice the cores of that i3 for $20
BeepBeepZangoose#4712: Would that be compatible with everything? |
Jam#0384: Yes
BeepBeepZangoose#4712: I'll look into it thanks
Jam#0384: It’s the same socket and it’s nothing extravagant
Jam#0384: I will mention though
Jam#0384: Don’t expect miracles. It’s a platform from 2011
BeepBeepZangoose#4712: Don't worry I'm not
BeepBeepZangoose#4712: I'm just expecting a bit more usability
BeepBeepZangoose#4712: It's $125 on Newegg for some reason lole
Jam#0384: Don’t buy it new
Jam#0384: Buy it on eBay
Jam#0384: Don’t buy anything from many years ago new
Jam#0384: Terrible value
BeepBeepZangoose#4712: Good point
Racey#8574: also
Racey#8574: **don't touch the socket pins** |
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