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Orphanzombie#3114: im gunna use for server type things and secondly any kind of game stuff EmperorOfFinland#9257: i would probably invest into 2011 xeon Orphanzombie#3114: that could be a good shout Orphanzombie#3114: i heard those mobos were cheap EmperorOfFinland#9257: as it seems to be relatively cheap EmperorOfFinland#9257: for the coreamount Foxious#1859: Was worth buying 3200mhz kit... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730707337383510066/20200709_114857.jpg wiryfuture🦀#1706: you probably need to activate XMP @Foxious Foxious#1859: It is enabled Foxious#1859: trust me, i may have bought ryzen level ram for a 9400F but im not that dumb Foxious#1859: I think the issue is that the I5 itself wont support ram that good Foxious#1859: Arma 2 running like shit on a modern mid range system, never change. Never change... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730713184729563177/20200709121217_1.jpg Little Billy#3065: fun stuff at work https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730718047270076426/JPEG_20200709_123226.jpg EmperorOfFinland#9257: are you sure the motherboard is not locking you to a specific frequency? EmperorOfFinland#9257: like intel likes to do
EmperorOfFinland#9257: if you dont buy the OC motherboard atleast on current gen Foxious#1859: This motherboard supports up to 4266mhz ram Foxious#1859: so the problem is the cpu Foxious#1859: Memory Types DDR4-2666 Foxious#1859: That explains it EmperorOfFinland#9257: umm EmperorOfFinland#9257: i run 3600mhz memory on my ryzen despite the official spec being 3200mhz EmperorOfFinland#9257: i could run higher if my infinityfabric would scale. Racey#8574: if it supports up to DDR4 2666 then why does it say 2733 Foxious#1859: I have no idea my friend Racey#8574: then it might not be the CPU Foxious#1859: im just hoping that when i upgrade five years from here to a I7 9700K, that would support faster ram, nativly EmperorOfFinland#9257: well i could probably run higher than that but since it would not be 1:1 sync with memory and infinityfabric clock meaning i would lose performance. EmperorOfFinland#9257: at that point its better to get a new system honestly.
Racey#8574: My RAM runs at 2933 but it supports 2666 tops with this CPU EmperorOfFinland#9257: intel CPU's dont have a habit of becoming cheaper. Foxious#1859: Dont have a habit of becoming cheaper? the hell are you on? with that logic nobody could afford the 3rd gen I7's because they would be closer to 1000 euros EmperorOfFinland#9257: its still 130€ for one. EmperorOfFinland#9257: it totally is not worth the price. EmperorOfFinland#9257: at that point the similar level hardware is probably much better. EmperorOfFinland#9257: ie 8C 16t being standard for 130€ price. EmperorOfFinland#9257: with way greater clocks and IPC Foxious#1859: you are not taking into count the fact that i would have to upgrade the motherboard and ram aswell EmperorOfFinland#9257: its simply better to do it that way. Foxious#1859: well its not Foxious#1859: i am not the sort of guy who plays brand new AAA titles Foxious#1859: and needing to get a brand new platform every 5 years EmperorOfFinland#9257: you need ghz and ipc on indies, especially on thouse. EmperorOfFinland#9257: i have 3800x i know.
Foxious#1859: who was speaking about indies? EmperorOfFinland#9257: you said you wont be playing triple AAA so that means youre playing indies Foxious#1859: im talking about slightly older games EmperorOfFinland#9257: ie games that lack multithreaded support for most part. Foxious#1859: also i said brand new triple A EmperorOfFinland#9257: still same thing applies Foxious#1859: it dosent EmperorOfFinland#9257: you need the ipc and clockspeed for games. since the older you go the more likely is that it supports less cores. EmperorOfFinland#9257: so coreadvatange wont matter. Foxious#1859: you are talking like im only playing games from 2003 Foxious#1859: while it is actually 2009-2015 Foxious#1859: in rare cases up to 2020 EmperorOfFinland#9257: let me tell you something. there is 100% fps difference on same gpu on prettymuch all games between my fx 8350 and 3800x due the ipc and clocks being 100% better combined EmperorOfFinland#9257: regardless of coresupport EmperorOfFinland#9257: since the newer cpu is about 100% faster
EmperorOfFinland#9257: per thread Foxious#1859: But in games like arma 3, dayz sa, war thunder, arma 2, wreckfest and BeamNG and in applications like Hammer and SFM the upgrade to a 9700K will improve my experience from a 9400F EmperorOfFinland#9257: so by sticking to old hardware youre losing the ipc and clock advatange. EmperorOfFinland#9257: if you had a comparable cpu from 5 years on EmperorOfFinland#9257: the fps difference is way higher. EmperorOfFinland#9257: even on 200€ cpus Foxious#1859: oh yeas its not like i would have to upgrade to a new motherboard, ddr5 ram etc. etc. Foxious#1859: that would cost so much more than a single used cpu EmperorOfFinland#9257: it will cost your 300-400€ EmperorOfFinland#9257: 200€ cpu on top of that Foxious#1859: it would cost me closer to 700, as i need to futureproof EmperorOfFinland#9257: you will need to pay anywhere between 130-300€ for the CPU itself for the old socket EmperorOfFinland#9257: but the experience would be much better. Foxious#1859: yes? 130-200 (dont know where you get the 300 from) is still way less than 500-700 Foxious#1859: and the experience would not be "much better"
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i dont know what the pricing of it will be. EmperorOfFinland#9257: it could be as low as 130€ or it might be 300€ EmperorOfFinland#9257: since its a premium product and they dont seem to lose that much value. Foxious#1859: what you are saying that from 5 years from this the price of a 9700K would be only 100 euros less than retail EmperorOfFinland#9257: yeah EmperorOfFinland#9257: intel does not do discounts on cpuprices EmperorOfFinland#9257: amd loses value way faster Foxious#1859: Intel maybe Foxious#1859: but indevidual sellers will sell for cheap Foxious#1859: when they upgrade their own bloody systems EmperorOfFinland#9257: depends EmperorOfFinland#9257: there is still a reason why 350€ cpu from 2013 is selling for 130€ EmperorOfFinland#9257: so i expect it keep its price atleast that well. Foxious#1859: especially right now 5-7 year old I7's cost 80-130 Foxious#1859: and thats in idiotic finnish pricing
EmperorOfFinland#9257: its still much when now you could get a 3300x EmperorOfFinland#9257: for the same price EmperorOfFinland#9257: and it being way better EmperorOfFinland#9257: keep in mind the difference is quite huge to thouse I7 Foxious#1859: IF I GOT A 3300X I WOULD STILL NEED TO GET THE FCKING MOTHERBOARD EmperorOfFinland#9257: and? EmperorOfFinland#9257: its worth for it Foxious#1859: try to get that into your tiny head that a decent motherboard would add to the cost quite a bit EmperorOfFinland#9257: the fps diffrerence is anywhere from 20-80% EmperorOfFinland#9257: you seemingly dont realize that the experience is better on it. EmperorOfFinland#9257: in finland motherboards are not expensive if you work on any capacity. EmperorOfFinland#9257: you have 5 years to save up for that. EmperorOfFinland#9257: so unless youre extremely poor in finland. EmperorOfFinland#9257: i dont see a way a person would not be able to do that. EmperorOfFinland#9257: ofc if you live on thirdworld then its a solid argument.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: if it would literally be impossible to save up money like that. EmperorOfFinland#9257: so lets say a decent motherboard would cost 100-200€ memory would cost 100€ and cpu 130€ EmperorOfFinland#9257: 300€ is not much money in finland. EmperorOfFinland#9257: in total it would take 3 months for me to save up that much. Quicktime#3169: why would you pay 130euro for a cpu from 2013? Quicktime#3169: I paid 150 for my EPYC 7551 EmperorOfFinland#9257: that is my point really. EmperorOfFinland#9257: at that point you can pick something of same price what is way better EmperorOfFinland#9257: ofc that needs mb and memory EmperorOfFinland#9257: but thouse might also be cheap at that point. EmperorOfFinland#9257: if you go for used Quicktime#3169: yeah I agree Quicktime#3169: I mostly use server stuff, all used EmperorOfFinland#9257: and new budget stuff will be much better for gaming Quicktime#3169: yeah the new ryzen chips are really good for the price
EmperorOfFinland#9257: so lets say a ryzen 7000- 8000 was out then BigPierogi#3368: @EmperorOfFinland what CPU is still 130 EmperorOfFinland#9257: I7-3770k EmperorOfFinland#9257: or 4770k EmperorOfFinland#9257: 3770k is 100€ EmperorOfFinland#9257: 4770k is 120€ EmperorOfFinland#9257: so you could get ryzen 6000-7000 for same price. EmperorOfFinland#9257: in 5 years EmperorOfFinland#9257: what would be vastly better than I7-9700k MythologicalZ#3752: I agree with the thing from earlier about retail not falling faq MythologicalZ#3752: can see it with haswell, chips are stupid old but since they were at one point top end people still buy them for 120+ EmperorOfFinland#9257: if you ask me i would buy a 3300x for that price EmperorOfFinland#9257: sure the system itself would cost more EmperorOfFinland#9257: but its not too much compared to that. EmperorOfFinland#9257: its way better in every way.
MythologicalZ#3752: ofc you should buy am4 for that price EmperorOfFinland#9257: yeah EmperorOfFinland#9257: that was the point i was making. MythologicalZ#3752: a good haswell z series will run you about the same as a b450 nowadays MythologicalZ#3752: even the junk ones are pricey EmperorOfFinland#9257: and if the mb you owned pre that was not a good overcloking board EmperorOfFinland#9257: my 300€ was that you get a X570 board and 16gb of 3200mhz memory with that. EmperorOfFinland#9257: ie 200€ for the board, and 100€ for memory Quicktime#3169: do you get PCI-E 4 as well on those b450 boards? MythologicalZ#3752: no, only b550 and x570 Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^^ Quicktime#3169: dang EmperorOfFinland#9257: And this gets even worse when you getting a 6700k and 7700k EmperorOfFinland#9257: The price is over 200€ MythologicalZ#3752: yeah prices are mad for chips getting beat by r3s in gaming
BigPierogi#3368: computer Quicktime#3169: computer! Kacpreusz#7656: I have an Acer Aspire 7735ZG, i got it for free because the previous owner was having graphics issues and the repair shop told him that the gpu is failing and repair is more expensive than buying another laptop. I installed a diffrend video driver and it works fine for a few months already. The GPU is an ATI Mobility Radeon 4570 512MB and its gaming performance is very poor, does someone know a way to make it a bit better? I'm running the latest version of Windows 10 Home x64 if that helps D.D.M#8226: Well what games are you talking about? D.D.M#8226: Also i wouldn't recommend you windows 10 as possibly the cpu is also quite weak D.D.M#8226: Win 7 should give you slight boost Kacpreusz#7656: I'm talking older games, GTA San Andreas, NFS Underground, Carbon Kacpreusz#7656: Underground 2 The United States Air Force#7904: Should be able to run gta sa The United States Air Force#7904: Idk the others so can't say Kacpreusz#7656: I had Win 7 on it until yesterday and the performance was the same as under windows 10 The United States Air Force#7904: Hmm Kacpreusz#7656: The CPU is an Intel Pentium T4200 2.0GHz Kacpreusz#7656: I'm thinking about upgrading it to a Core 2 Duo P8700 The United States Air Force#7904: Yeah I would do that
The United States Air Force#7904: If you can get a mobile c2d for cheap Kacpreusz#7656: I know The United States Air Force#7904: Also get an ssd Kacpreusz#7656: I already upgraded it with a cheap 256gb SSD and 8GB of ram The United States Air Force#7904: Have at least 4gb ram The United States Air Force#7904: If not 8 The United States Air Force#7904: Ah The United States Air Force#7904: Ok that's good The United States Air Force#7904: So the gpu only supports dx 10.1 i think Kacpreusz#7656: It came with a 4gb stick and i had another one from an HP Pavilion DV6 with blown power circuitry EmperorOfFinland#9257: If the gpu is anywhere near the desktop offerings the experience will be quite bad if you touch anything remotely modern The United States Air Force#7904: Ya EmperorOfFinland#9257: I have not seen worse drivers ever. The United States Air Force#7904: Honestly the gpu is probably the weakest thing in the laptop Kacpreusz#7656: It definetly is
The United States Air Force#7904: But you should be able to play gta San Andreas Kacpreusz#7656: The preformance is slightly better than a desktop HD4500 The United States Air Force#7904: And older games pre 2010 just fine Kacpreusz#7656: It runs San Andreas on low, native resolution 1600x900 and no anti-aliasing fine but sometimes it slows down The United States Air Force#7904: Maybe just maybe you could get gta v to run on low settings 360p The United States Air Force#7904: As gta v has dx 10.1 support Kacpreusz#7656: I ran IV on lowest setting, 800x600 windowed on it and it was pretty smooth The United States Air Force#7904: Hmm The United States Air Force#7904: You can probably run minecraft too Kacpreusz#7656: I don't play minecraft anyway but yeah it should run pretty good The United States Air Force#7904: Hmm Kacpreusz#7656: I need to buy a new hard drive for my desktop Kacpreusz#7656: it's slow and making wierd noises while used The United States Air Force#7904: Go check the hdd health Bwenfwake#6869: ~~buy an SSD instead~~
Kacpreusz#7656: I want to buy an ssd but i have a lot of things that i need to spend money on first The United States Air Force#7904: https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/how-to-check-your-hard-drives-health Bwenfwake#6869: Honestly though, an SSD will easily be the most important thing in increasing it's performance though The United States Air Force#7904: ^ Kacpreusz#7656: I need to replace the rear suspension beam and muffler in my car, also something is starting to knock in the front suspension, i need to buy a new bed because mine fell apart last night The United States Air Force#7904: Rip Bwenfwake#6869: Laptops of that age really benefit from them as it suddenly removes any slow dwon from the HDD Bwenfwake#6869: ooof Bwenfwake#6869: fair Kacpreusz#7656: I know Kacpreusz#7656: now my pc won't start at all Kacpreusz#7656: Without the gpu it starts 😦 Kacpreusz#7656: hopefully the integrated geforce 6100 can run some games The United States Air Force#7904: Rip The United States Air Force#7904: Big rip
The United States Air Force#7904: @Kacpreusz whats wrong with the gpu? Kacpreusz#7656: Artifacts The United States Air Force#7904: Ah The United States Air Force#7904: Repaste gpu? The United States Air Force#7904: Maybe oven? Kacpreusz#7656: Nah, it won'y help long term The United States Air Force#7904: Hmm Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730841011118669874/IMG_20200709_104055599.jpg Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730841176474779668/IMG_20200709_104136428.jpg Kacpreusz#7656: Oof Deleted User#0000: What is happening? Deleted User#0000: It's boot looping. Deleted User#0000: As well with graphical artifacts Kacpreusz#7656: Kiss your gpu goodbye Kacpreusz#7656: most likely
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730841483456020620/JPEG_20200709_104305.jpg The United States Air Force#7904: Hmm Deleted User#0000: The artifacts are bouncing all over the place Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730842348413779998/JPEG_20200709_104631.jpg Deleted User#0000: GPU is most likely dead. Kacpreusz#7656: Is it possible to make a 8 pin gpu work with a 6 pin plug without adapters? Kacpreusz#7656: i think i got it Kacpreusz#7656: let's see if it works Kacpreusz#7656: man i hate this case Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730844096549093467/IMG_20200709_195301925.jpg Kacpreusz#7656: Nope Kacpreusz#7656: let's see now Kacpreusz#7656: nope The United States Air Force#7904: Oof damn Kacpreusz#7656: I have an Radeon HD4870 but i don't have a 6 pin power connector
EmperorOfFinland#9257: normal 8 pin goes to it EmperorOfFinland#9257: if its 6+2 Kacpreusz#7656: oh my bad it's 8 pin Kacpreusz#7656: and i have a 6 pin plug in my psu EmperorOfFinland#9257: i think you need a converter plug. Kacpreusz#7656: i know Kacpreusz#7656: but i want to get it working without one Kacpreusz#7656: Oh i think i have an idea Kacpreusz#7656: but it requires a soldering iron BigPierogi#3368: why not just buy a 6 to 8 pin adapter Kacpreusz#7656: im too cheap BigPierogi#3368: its literally a dollar Kacpreusz#7656: i know Kacpreusz#7656: but i don't know if that gpu is working EmperorOfFinland#9257: its not much
EmperorOfFinland#9257: you can always reuse it later Kacpreusz#7656: oh im a lucky guy Kacpreusz#7656: the heatsink from my 9600gt fits onto that radeon Kacpreusz#7656: i don't have the original heatsink for it Kacpreusz#7656: i soldered the hopefully correct pins together Kacpreusz#7656: let's test it Kacpreusz#7656: fuuuuuu Kacpreusz#7656: same error message EmperorOfFinland#9257: ... EmperorOfFinland#9257: just get the cable. EmperorOfFinland#9257: you will endup ruining that card too Kacpreusz#7656: Even i am often suprised by the extend of my genius. Kacpreusz#7656: This works Kacpreusz#7656: But this gpu also has artifacts Kacpreusz#7656: No wonder i wasn't using it
Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730852406165766284/JPEG_20200709_202627.jpg Kacpreusz#7656: The joints look very bad because i only nad crapy solder https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730852829039821021/IMG_20200709_202729902.jpg BigPierogi#3368: are you sure those arent shorted Kacpreusz#7656: Yes i am because the thing works Kacpreusz#7656: But it also has artifacts Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730853143704764536/JPEG_20200709_202923.jpg Kacpreusz#7656: Now this pc is useless i only kept it because it had a good gpu Kacpreusz#7656: So i could play some games Kacpreusz#7656: The hard drive is near dead too Kacpreusz#7656: I'm not investing any more money into it scelli#0001: Bruh scelli#0001: That is super shorted Kacpreusz#7656: That was the point scelli#0001: Prod it with a clean soldering iron and get rid of excess Kacpreusz#7656: I know it is a very bad soldering jon
Kacpreusz#7656: job Kacpreusz#7656: Anyway this GPU is dead too i'm not going to use it scelli#0001: Well just to let you know you used a bit too much solder Kacpreusz#7656: I know scelli#0001: so next time try to cut it back a bit scelli#0001: just a pro tip 👍 Kacpreusz#7656: This solder is rubbish and i had to use a lot of it for it to stick at all scelli#0001: Were the pads clean? Kacpreusz#7656: Yes Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730854621756522496/JPEG_20200709_203515.jpg Kacpreusz#7656: I will sell it as is and use the money to upgrade the CPU in my laptop Kacpreusz#7656: i will make an aio out of it Kacpreusz#7656: https://youtu.be/xg87xs9OXIQ BigPierogi#3368: yes i saw that BigPierogi#3368: very alcohol
Deleted User#0000: whats the vodka test Deleted User#0000: explain BigPierogi#3368: puts it in 10 minutes in vodka BigPierogi#3368: completely submerged Deleted User#0000: sounds like pain to clean Deleted User#0000: would get all sticky id imagine BigPierogi#3368: why sticky BigPierogi#3368: its not sweet Deleted User#0000: oh Deleted User#0000: I thought vodka dries up and leaves residue BigPierogi#3368: alcohol evaporates Deleted User#0000: Sure but vodka is 40% no? Deleted User#0000: I know pure alcohol just vanishes without a trace BigPierogi#3368: also how would it be a pain to clean BigPierogi#3368: you just gotta wipe it down
Alcyone#2233: vodka would leave a residue IG-86#3740: So on Cragslist I found 2 GTX 480's and I kinda want to get them for SLI and just to mess with ITs 35$ for both however the one thing is that the Seller says that they have only been tested to the bios So do Y'all think it would be worth taking the risk? Kacpreusz#7656: Amy chance of a custom rom for a Motorola One? The stock os is buggy mi3night#2562: @IG-86 offer $25 mi3night#2562: If he reject offer $30 IG-86#3740: Already offered 30 mi3night#2562: $5 ain’t much IG-86#3740: and the said 35 is the lowest he would go mi3night#2562: If u really want it mi3night#2562: Pay up IG-86#3740: Well the thing is that on ebay In america people are deranged IG-86#3740: People are selling them for like 40-70$ IG-86#3740: So thats why Im tempted mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730936994598879302/image0.png mi3night#2562: Ok get it then
mi3night#2562: At the end resell both for $80 mi3night#2562: I would do that IG-86#3740: Im still kinda worried about them not being tested but yeah I guess your right IG-86#3740: Even if one of them doesnt work I can sell the other one for 40ish mi3night#2562: Yup mi3night#2562: Do ur thing 👍 @IG-86 IG-86#3740: I think I'll buy them might as well Foxious#1859: Is anybody else bothered about the fact that the 6gb 1060 should have been called the GTX 1060TI Muse#0557: It came out first Muse#0557: Also bothered about the naming of a 3 year old graphics accelerator Muse#0557: Umm Muse#0557: No? Foxious#1859: not a 3 year old Foxious#1859: but a 4 year old Foxious#1859: 2016 was 4 years ago
Muse#0557: That makes my point more valid lmao Foxious#1859: Dont you dare use my nitpicking against me SuSSudio#2688: Add a few hundred more cores from 1280, raise clocks between 1700 & 1760mhz & i'd call it 1060 Ti. Foxious#1859: True that Foxious#1859: I just watched some benchmarks about 5500XT vs 1660 and RX580, and dear god the 5500 is a stinker isint it Foxious#1859: barely can beat the rx 580 half the time Foxious#1859: and in some cases even lost Foxious#1859: pathetic Foxious#1859: good thing my 1070 fe arrives next week wiryfuture🦀#1706: I've been looking on ebay and a ryzen 7 1700 has a similar price to a 5 2600 and 5 1600AF, which would be the most worth buying? wiryfuture🦀#1706: I play games but I also do programming and I want to do entry level video editing with resolve Foxious#1859: take a look at this gamers nexus cpu chart, 1700 and 2600 are at the bottom https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/731212800344588288/20_tww-campaign_1080p_3950x-review.png Foxious#1859: 2600 seems to be quite bit better, for gaming atleast Foxious#1859: https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3533-best-cpus-of-2019-round-up-gaming-video-editing-3d-modeling-disappointment DarknessFalls229#2286: must clarify, this is on a single game
DarknessFalls229#2286: which seems to prefer clocks over cores Foxious#1859: shadow of the tomb raider gives the same result Foxious#1859: in red dead redemption they are extremely close but 2600 beats the r7 Foxious#1859: 2600 takes up the... in assasin creed tho Foxious#1859: but in hitman 2600 again is better Foxious#1859: Overall, for gaming 2600 seems to be better Foxious#1859: and from what i have heard, both are decent for productivity wiryfuture🦀#1706: a 2700x is ~£35 more (1700, 2600 and 1600AF are about £105-115) Foxious#1859: take a look at the charts Foxious#1859: 2700x is there too DarknessFalls229#2286: in heavily multithreaded tasks the R7 1700 will win, but as those are far and few in between the 2600 will be better for its better defined refresh of the architecture and probably better compatibility with higher ram speeds Foxious#1859: and will propably run cooler? Foxious#1859: unless its a rx 480-rx580 refresh situation Foxious#1859: but that is not relevant DarknessFalls229#2286: if the 1600AF and 2600 are in the same price range i would go for the 2600
DarknessFalls229#2286: but the two extra cores are a nice novelty on the first gen 1700 wiryfuture🦀#1706: so 1700 < 1600AF < 2600? wiryfuture🦀#1706: kinda? DarknessFalls229#2286: in a way yes wiryfuture🦀#1706: would a 2700x beat all of those? DarknessFalls229#2286: 1600AF should have a lower prive point, but this is not the case in this situation Foxious#1859: i the sort of guy who would get the 1700 so i can say that i have an ryzen 7 DarknessFalls229#2286: lol DarknessFalls229#2286: thats kinda weak wiryfuture🦀#1706: lmao DarknessFalls229#2286: but yes, the 2700x would outperform all the previous mentioned CPUs wiryfuture🦀#1706: the more cores would be nice when compiling stuff DarknessFalls229#2286: but in the 150 quid range you might get a r5 3600 DarknessFalls229#2286: which is zen2 Foxious#1859: Have you considered intel platform, or do you already own an amd mobo?
DarknessFalls229#2286: i wouldnt go intel at that price range wiryfuture🦀#1706: already have b450 Foxious#1859: alright wiryfuture🦀#1706: mobo wiryfuture🦀#1706: and 3200mhz Foxious#1859: i was thinking about finding some excellent used deal DarknessFalls229#2286: with B450 you can indeed get a 3600 wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/731215062403907715/unknown.png DarknessFalls229#2286: which is somewhat the go-to CPU right now wiryfuture🦀#1706: I might have to upgrade bios version though DarknessFalls229#2286: that is true wiryfuture🦀#1706: depends what version the mobo is shipped with DarknessFalls229#2286: which is it wiryfuture🦀#1706: giga b450m gaming DarknessFalls229#2286: cause it may be a mobo specifically brought out to be ryzen 3rd gen compatible
DarknessFalls229#2286: dont think that one is ryzen 3rd gen out of the box DarknessFalls229#2286: at least not at first DarknessFalls229#2286: the "elite" lineup is though, for gigabyte DarknessFalls229#2286: any used 3600's on the website? DarknessFalls229#2286: otherwise you probably should just go 2600 DarknessFalls229#2286: unless you wanna wait for the launch of next gen products wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-3-4-3-9-GHz-Six-Core-Hexa-Core-AM4-CPU-Processor/283942051279?epid=245229045&hash=item421c43ddcf:g:PwIAAOSwq-1a4Zzp wiryfuture🦀#1706: this one is a bit more than the 1600AF I found but it has fast shipping wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PROCESSOR-AMD-RYZEN-5-1600AF-2600-6-Cores-3-6-GHZ-BOX/333611460268?hash=item4daccae6ac:g:P4gAAOSwVSte0X2T DarknessFalls229#2286: how much is the 1600AF? wiryfuture🦀#1706: 106 but shipping brings it to 117 DarknessFalls229#2286: and the other one also has 11 quid shipping? wiryfuture🦀#1706: no it has free shipping wiryfuture🦀#1706: at 120 DarknessFalls229#2286: oh, then go for that one i guess
DarknessFalls229#2286: i think 3 quid is worth the slight increase in frequency wiryfuture🦀#1706: alr wiryfuture🦀#1706: thanks ebay, very cool! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/731220936736505961/unknown.png DarknessFalls229#2286: when the Error errors The United States Air Force#7904: So my dads pc turns off like twice a day now and I'm not sure what's wrong The United States Air Force#7904: He didn't see anything in the event log The United States Air Force#7904: But its like it completely shuts down BigPierogi#3368: overheating? The United States Air Force#7904: Idk whats wrong but it may be an old try 600w or windows update DarknessFalls229#2286: does it normally shut down or poof sudden and abrupt shutdown The United States Air Force#7904: Doesn't seem like it The United States Air Force#7904: @DarknessFalls229 no just started The United States Air Force#7904: A few days ago DarknessFalls229#2286: not what i meant The United States Air Force#7904: Oh
DarknessFalls229#2286: like does it shutdown like you pressed the shutdown button in the start menu or does it shut down like you held down the power button for 3 seconds DarknessFalls229#2286: and how does one respond with "no" on an OR question The United States Air Force#7904: Lemme see idk, just got the system EmperorOfFinland#9257: it could be the CMOS battery EmperorOfFinland#9257: i have had PC doing stuff like that DarknessFalls229#2286: dead CMOS battery could create some weird bugs wiryfuture🦀#1706: I had a mobo with flaky booting when CMOS was dead The United States Air Force#7904: Hmm The United States Air Force#7904: Will try that The United States Air Force#7904: I'll also replace the cooler as its an intel stock on a 4770k The United States Air Force#7904: And the tr2 600w psu mi3night#2562: @The United States Air Force sell the 4770k for $160 or something and get him ryzen The United States Air Force#7904: ... maybe need to ask my dad wiryfuture🦀#1706: :Yessi: Kacpreusz#7656: Does the app store still work on Windows Phone? And on wich versions of wp does it work in
Foxious#1859: My MSI 4850 runs incredibly hot, i put it into my pc, started the pc up, got to windows, shut the pc off and took the 4850 out Foxious#1859: even tough the 4850 did nothing hot Foxious#1859: the bloody copper heatsink/heatpipes burned my hand Foxious#1859: it ran for like 5 minutes Foxious#1859: no wonder it has "danger, hot surface" stickers just like the gtx 470 and 480 BigPierogi#3368: maybe put a fan on it? BigPierogi#3368: or replace thermal paste Foxious#1859: thermal paste has been replaced Foxious#1859: "put a fan on it" BigPierogi#3368: yes BigPierogi#3368: hamish has done it before Foxious#1859: "put a fan on it" https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/731551632499933275/msi_radeon_hd_4850.png Foxious#1859: you mean a extra fan? quite hard as this is a blower card Foxious#1859: but anyway Foxious#1859: amazing how hot that thing runs
BigPierogi#3368: or idk BigPierogi#3368: put fan at full blast always Foxious#1859: is there a difference between the R4850 ad HD 4850 Foxious#1859: because the HD 4850 has a TDP of 110 watts Foxious#1859: you know... Foxious#1859: gtx 470 is known for running hot, it has just under the double the tdp Foxious#1859: but almost 3 times the heatsink Foxious#1859: about 2,5 times larger heatsink Foxious#1859: so 470 prolly actually runs a tiny bit cooler Foxious#1859: holy shit Foxious#1859: hooly shit Foxious#1859: some 4850's with the stock coolers have hit 120 celcius Foxious#1859: one even claims that his has hit 130 EmperorOfFinland#9257: that cooler is tiny EmperorOfFinland#9257: no wonder it is hot
thatubuntuguy#5914: That is not going to cool 110 watts thatubuntuguy#5914: I guess ziptying a 12v fan to it could help a fair bit thatubuntuguy#5914: Like take off the shroud and existing fan and slapping on a 12v pc fan might work thatubuntuguy#5914: It'd be ghetto as hell tho thatubuntuguy#5914: Or you could literally put a desk fan in front of the pc with sidepanel off Foxious#1859: the problem is Foxious#1859: due to the heatsink design, it would be impossible to just ziptie another fan to it Foxious#1859: i would need to replace the entire heatsink Foxious#1859: I just cant understand something Foxious#1859: a card that is only one tier higher Foxious#1859: and has similiar tdp if my memory dosent fail me Foxious#1859: the 4870 has a proper cooler Foxious#1859: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/731640977512595486/1024.png Foxious#1859: yeah Foxious#1859: 40 watts more
Foxious#1859: but it gets twice the amount of cooling Kacpreusz#7656: Replace the thermal paste with something decent, MX-4 for example, replace thermal pads and obviously clean it from dust as best as you can Kacpreusz#7656: Also make sure you have good air circulation in your case Foxious#1859: I have Foxious#1859: with mx4 2019 actually Foxious#1859: and i dont think air circulation would be a problem with a HAF 912 Foxious#1859: and it has been dedusted, obviously Foxious#1859: the only thing i could have not replaced were the pads, but those were not the problem in the first place JDO17#0633: Hi JDO17#0633: I have a question Foxious#1859: Yes? JDO17#0633: I have £140 odd to buy a phone JDO17#0633: I want a used one, a flagship JDO17#0633: Can’t be less then 3 years old Foxious#1859: good luck
Foxious#1859: they tend to keep their value JDO17#0633: Was looking at a Pixel 2 JDO17#0633: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/731647768141234196/image0.png JDO17#0633: Or JDO17#0633: A used S8 JDO17#0633: Could go to £240 mi3night#2562: @JDO17 what phone u have rn mi3night#2562: iPhone 6? mi3night#2562: If u have a 7 or better it’s not worth to get a pixel 2 JDO17#0633: 32GB JDO17#0633: @mi3night JDO17#0633: iPhone 7. But I hate iOS and the battery mi3night#2562: Makes sense get s8 mi3night#2562: I have iPhone 7 rn but eh mi3night#2562: S8 is not that big of a jump
mi3night#2562: I’d advise to save up more mi3night#2562: Like a s10 or something mi3night#2562: @JDO17 JDO17#0633: I have £240 mi3night#2562: Ok JDO17#0633: Selling my 7 to my sister JDO17#0633: For £ JDO17#0633: 100 mi3night#2562: There’s nothing wrong with a s8 mi3night#2562: But I’m saying it’s more of a iPhone replacement more than a real upgrade mi3night#2562: But yeah go ahead if u have no choice mi3night#2562: @JDO17 JDO17#0633: Think I might get the s9 JDO17#0633: It’s an upgrade then hare_ware#4880: Is this a good deal? https://es.aliexpress.com/item/4000100329560.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000023.4.647c2395wu6U89 It looks like a good deal, and I don't mind the month to ship to the states.
hare_ware#4880: $88.99 (w/ shipping) for a E5-2620 v2 (12t6c OwO), 8GB of ECC DDR3, a cooler?, and an X79 mobo. hare_ware#4880: I'd be pairing it with a GTX1660 and using it for 3D game development in Godot 4, compiling Godot 4, and for Blender, Zbrush, and I think Maya. mi3night#2562: @hare_ware if u want a ultra cheap pc it's fine mi3night#2562: but eh mi3night#2562: the Xeon is not that good of a performer nowadays hare_ware#4880: Ryzen isn't? I did the math anyway, an it would be dummy expensive to build a ryzen system and it wouldn't be much faster than my current system's max upgrade path anyway. hare_ware#4880: But to get big CPU upgrade after the E5-2630 would be even more dummy, but I probably won't need that for a while. More and more stuff is getting GPU accelerated. Just slapping a Big Navi card or a 3080 Ti Super or what ever will probably be a good enough upgrade path for me. mi3night#2562: @hare_ware i meant Xeon I’m sorry hare_ware#4880: Oof hare_ware#4880: np Deleted User#0000: What's better a hd 7950 or a r9 270x 2gb Muse#0557: 7950 Muse#0557: Its equivalent to a R9 280 wiryfuture🦀#1706: I have a 7950 lol wiryfuture🦀#1706: 3GB so more textures
wiryfuture🦀#1706: gúd wiryfuture🦀#1706: > Ryzen isn't? I did the math anyway, an it would be dummy expensive to build a ryzen system and it wouldn't be much faster than my current system's max upgrade path anyway. @hare_ware ryzen isn't "dumy expensive" lol Muse#0557: Calls Ryzen expensive then just says slap a 3080Ti boog#9487: Should I put a gpu in this hp like this (of course with a "proper" mount) oh and a sfx psu fits perfectly in the top right according to online measurements boog#9487: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/731871122219466872/20200712_094833.jpg boog#9487: (old gpu for mock up) boog#9487: Will probably replace cpu with an i5 as it's a Pentium right now The United States Air Force#7904: Epic DarknessFalls229#2286: @boog so kinda like what i did but with wood and realizing i dont have money for a SFX PSU so used a standard one instead boog#9487: I might be able to fit a standard one in but I'll have to measure again but it would 100% require cutting DarknessFalls229#2286: you need at least 8 pcie lanes to support SLI right? Bwenfwake#6869: correct Artem Ganeric#0421: My PC randomly stopped working and it keeps showing this Artem Ganeric#0421: How do I fix https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732016118511960173/image0.jpg
"Cobs"#1150: check in bios to make sure your drive shows up "Cobs"#1150: then youll probably need to reinstall windows "Cobs"#1150: or your OS of choice "Cobs"#1150: you can attempt to repair it with a windows usb but it's not normally very successful Artem Ganeric#0421: Will I lose anything that was on my hard drive / ssd? "Cobs"#1150: if you format yeah "Cobs"#1150: but normally if you install windows over a windows install, it'll move all of your things into a folder called windows.old Artem Ganeric#0421: So how do I fix it keeping all my stuff? "Cobs"#1150: check your drives show up in bios first "Cobs"#1150: your drive might have died Artem Ganeric#0421: It’s showing 2 so I think they’re showing up "Cobs"#1150: boot a windows usb next Artem Ganeric#0421: So get a usb with windows on it and see how that works ? "Cobs"#1150: aye "Cobs"#1150: you need to use bootrec to try and detect your old install
"Cobs"#1150: your bootloader has gone bust "Cobs"#1150: which is usually a result of a failing drive, windows bug or a virus Artem Ganeric#0421: Wait so what am I doing once I plug it in? "Cobs"#1150: plug it in, boot it "Cobs"#1150: when you get to the install screen "Cobs"#1150: choose "Repair your computer" and select command prompt Artem Ganeric#0421: Do I need to restart my PC for the usb to show up yeah "Cobs"#1150: https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/help/927392/use-bootrec-exe-in-the-windows-re-to-troubleshoot-startup-issues follow the commands on here "Cobs"#1150: yep "Cobs"#1150: because youll need to boot from it Artem Ganeric#0421: Ok I’ll get a windows usb now thanks Artem Ganeric#0421: What command should I do Gamefreak924#5901: Trying to install an SSD into a laptop with fresh install of Windows 10 from a USB drive and I keep getting error code 0xc000000e. How do I fix this? Lady Mipha#0611: 1. boot files are corrupted 2. bcd missing or misconfigured
3. hardware issue Lady Mipha#0611: @Gamefreak924 ^ Gamefreak924#5901: Is it also normal to get the same error when I only have the USB inserted and not the SSD? Lady Mipha#0611: yes Gamefreak924#5901: okay. And I tried doing some kind of mbr fixed on an SSD volume I created, but still nothing Gamefreak924#5901: actually, I can't even get the USB to work with the laptop's original drive either, which has a working copy of Windows Vista on it. Lady Mipha#0611: then the usb is having issues @Gamefreak924 Artem Ganeric#0421: If I select the upgrade option whilst setting up windows does that mean I keep all the files on my hard drive ? Gamefreak924#5901: I didn't think it did. I was able to start up the USB's install tool without any issues inside of Windows 10 on my desktop Lady Mipha#0611: it’s probably setup to work on your computer but not the laptop @Gamefreak924 Lady Mipha#0611: because of how old the laptop is Lady Mipha#0611: @Artem Ganeric yes Artem Ganeric#0421: Thanks Gamefreak924#5901: so how am I supposed to install Windows 10 then? :/ Lady Mipha#0611: use rufus from your computer and make sure the partition scheme is set to mbr @Gamefreak924
Gamefreak924#5901: I guess I'll try and see what works. Thank you Tinybox#9112: ight so quick info; After an epic AMD gpu driver update, my sleep/wake broke, it will enter sleep mode just fine, but then upon wakeup, my monitor doesn't wake up (just a black screen "no signal") After a tad of searching I found this here https://community.amd.com/thread/236266 a thread with a buncha people that had/have the exact same issue. **Update; I've tried to; 1) use the dism + sfc command 2) Reinstall GPU Drivers, (old and new, using factory reset option in the installation) both to no avail 3) For some reason, when I set everything to default in the bios it sleeps and wakes properly, however loading my profile brings me back to the same issue** Anyway, my question is this, anyone know anything else I can try? Should I try to DDU and reinstall? 2) On the Chipset and vga, update part..., I install these two right? >Amd Chipset and >AMD Graphic driver https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732183705786777621/unknown.png Tinybox#9112: Update: And should I remove the amd audio bus as well in ddu? Tinybox#9112: update (3): **I gave up I did all the stuff in the article with the chipset driver, to no avail, I'll wait for Windows Version 2004, and pray i doesn't yeet everything, I might update the bios as well** >For now I replaced Hibernation with sleep in every way I can. If you have any idea on how to help, please do Miki2305#5707: I've been doing research, opening 2 chrome tabs but my gpu looks like a 2gb model but it only shows 1 can it be that the bios is not right for that model?
Foxious#1859: I find it funny that according to pc-builds's bottleneck calculator Foxious#1859: my I5 9400F bottlenecks the GTX 1070 im gonna be getting in 1080P DarknessFalls229#2286: its an online calculator DarknessFalls229#2286: its always going to be inaccurate in some way Gamefreak924#5901: I may be giving my girlfriend a laptop to do schoolwork and coding on (she'll likely be going into game/software development). Does it matter what OS is on it? Whether it be Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 10, Linux, etc. Gamefreak924#5901: It's a bit of an older laptop, and I don't know if coding is necessarily OS-reliant when creating and testing programs. I'm worried it may slow quite a bit down on Windows 10. An SSD is being used though if it's anything except Vista TheFifthAce#4128: @Gamefreak924 do win 10 if it can TheFifthAce#4128: if it cant, do a modern linux distro lik popos or manjaro Gamefreak924#5901: Alright, thank you mi3night#2562: @Foxious mine https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732461717434400838/image0.png Racey#8574: what the fuck https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732462760939618314/Screenshot_3565.png mi3night#2562: Rekt Racey#8574: I don't think I should be wondering why it's 100% lmfao Racey#8574: I was thinking about an RX 5500 a few weeks ago Racey#8574: the fuck https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732463500068257812/Screenshot_3566.png
mi3night#2562: Bruh why 5500 @Racey Racey#8574: idk I'm poor mi3night#2562: Get 1660 Racey#8574: my birthday is like 2 months away mi3night#2562: I’d avoid amd at this point mi3night#2562: @TheFifthAce can agree Racey#8574: the bottleneck calc is pretty bullshit but ok Racey#8574: I would probably wait on the GPU upgrade mi3night#2562: I mean 1070 is similarly priced too KingGaurav#4771: Guys I am having very strange HDMI behavior on my Acer KG241QP monitor. On my computer, the monitor works fine over DP, but only works over HDMI if I insert the cable half way (on both ports on the monitor) otherwise I will get a high pitch noise I don't know the origin of. On my RPI2, it works perfectly over HDMI1, but on HDMI2 I just get a total black screen. I tried 2 laptops, neither of which display on either port KingGaurav#4771: The monitor detects the cable, and goes black with a blue (means it detected something or is displaying the menu) but then shows no signal KingGaurav#4771: One of the laptops does display over HDMI on my Dell SE198WFP KingGaurav#4771: Am waiting for my father to come home so that I can test on his Travelmate X KingGaurav#4771: (The laptops I tested are : An ASUS Strix ROG GL503, and a Dell Latitude E5270? cant remember, the Strix one displays on my SE198WFP, the Latitude does not) EmperorOfFinland#9257: are you sure the cable is not broken?
EmperorOfFinland#9257: or that the screens input itself is broken KingGaurav#4771: I tested 2 cables, both yielding same results KingGaurav#4771: Also, if the monitor itself is faulty, will Acer replace it since its well in its warranty period KingGaurav#4771: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732568982007054356/unknown.png EmperorOfFinland#9257: i think they would replace it since its inside of its warrantyperiod KingGaurav#4771: I did have some problems with my monitor since I got it with my PC. (same problem as mentioned above) however I ignored it as my GPU's fault as my GPU often refuses my SE198WFP over HDMI too EmperorOfFinland#9257: does this happen on boot? EmperorOfFinland#9257: or in normal usage? EmperorOfFinland#9257: i have had some gpus on servers for example not giving out picture from the GPU before its booted to windows loginscreen. KingGaurav#4771: All the time EmperorOfFinland#9257: ah KingGaurav#4771: but I think its my GPU because I hear a high pitch whine KingGaurav#4771: when I fully insert my HDMI cable EmperorOfFinland#9257: hmm EmperorOfFinland#9257: are you sure the gpuport is not dirty?
KingGaurav#4771: On DP i have no such issue EmperorOfFinland#9257: it could be KingGaurav#4771: Actually, I should check KingGaurav#4771: but EmperorOfFinland#9257: i would check that KingGaurav#4771: I used a DVI-HDMI adapter on my GPU and same thing KingGaurav#4771: it could also be the fact that my GPU is barely ever cleaned. EmperorOfFinland#9257: i mean a blast of canned air to it should fix it about EmperorOfFinland#9257: if its dirty KingGaurav#4771: I do use the exhaust of my vacuum cleaner sometimes to clean it KingGaurav#4771: And that was not very long ago KingGaurav#4771: However I do remember plugging my PC to our 4K tv over HDMI when my SE198wfp gave me hell (and before I bought this Acer monitor) KingGaurav#4771: worked flawlessly at 4K 60 KingGaurav#4771: This monitor does take long (a few seconds) to detect my PC when I power it on but I assume that is not a fault KingGaurav#4771: (both over DP and HDMI)
KingGaurav#4771: Longer compared to my SE198WFP EmperorOfFinland#9257: well i dont know that exact model myself Lady Mipha#0611: is it the cable? EmperorOfFinland#9257: its possible its the cable KingGaurav#4771: I tried 2 cables EmperorOfFinland#9257: so it must be on the screen or the gpu KingGaurav#4771: Are there cables specific to HDMI 2.0? Lady Mipha#0611: no KingGaurav#4771: Probably the GPU in my PC, but I don't think the ports on my brothers Strix GL503 have failed as well since it displays fine on my Dell SE198WFP EmperorOfFinland#9257: there is 2.0hdmi EmperorOfFinland#9257: and 2.1 EmperorOfFinland#9257: 1.4-1.4b EmperorOfFinland#9257: 1.3-1.3a KingGaurav#4771: my monitor AFAIK only has HDMI 2.0 EmperorOfFinland#9257: and 1.0-1.2a
EmperorOfFinland#9257: is the cable 2.0 hdmi cable? KingGaurav#4771: However that should be plenty good at 1080p144 KingGaurav#4771: I am not aware KingGaurav#4771: pretty generic cables EmperorOfFinland#9257: i was not able to do 1080p 144 on my hdmi KingGaurav#4771: I will try to find the cable that came with my monitor later EmperorOfFinland#9257: hdmi 1.3-1.4b, 2.0-2.0b and 2.1 can do 144hz EmperorOfFinland#9257: anyhting under that cant. EmperorOfFinland#9257: at 1080p KingGaurav#4771: My monitor both on the back panel and on the OSM shows HDMI 1 (2.0) KingGaurav#4771: same case with HDMI 2 EmperorOfFinland#9257: how old the hdmi cables are? KingGaurav#4771: one of them is almost as old as the monitor KingGaurav#4771: the other one is even older KingGaurav#4771: actually I am not sure if one of these cables IS the cable that came with the monitor
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i think the port might be dirty EmperorOfFinland#9257: a broken cable can break the port EmperorOfFinland#9257: and broken port can break a cable EmperorOfFinland#9257: i remember a coworker saying that on work KingGaurav#4771: but then how can it work with some devices and not with others? EmperorOfFinland#9257: some monitors? EmperorOfFinland#9257: so it works on other monitors? EmperorOfFinland#9257: ah EmperorOfFinland#9257: its that specific monitor KingGaurav#4771: I mean it works with my Pi2 KingGaurav#4771: on HDMI1 EmperorOfFinland#9257: but not on hdmi2? KingGaurav#4771: On HDMI 2 it just sits there with a black screen KingGaurav#4771: but my PC if I leave the cable 50% inserted works fine with both EmperorOfFinland#9257: are you sure you dont have 2 hdmi channels
EmperorOfFinland#9257: its unlikely though EmperorOfFinland#9257: maybe the port is broken EmperorOfFinland#9257: maybe cleaning the port would help EmperorOfFinland#9257: problem with this is KingGaurav#4771: Also, if the removable stand has heavy scratching, will they replace the monitor or is the warranty for the monitor now void KingGaurav#4771: the rear part of the stand EmperorOfFinland#9257: it would not make it not function i think EmperorOfFinland#9257: so i dont think they would deny it on that KingGaurav#4771: If it doesn't work on my dad's travelmate X I don't know what will KingGaurav#4771: but I recall this monitor also working fine over hdmi with my Travelmate P643-V's motherboard. However I cannot 100% recall which monitor that was on, probably this one EmperorOfFinland#9257: well EmperorOfFinland#9257: maybe it sorts itself out wiryfuture🦀#1706: what's the monetary value of an i3 2100 with a dh61ww and 8GB of ram? :crome: Muse#0557: £35 Muse#0557: Id say
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ight wiryfuture🦀#1706: yeah I can get behind that Muse#0557: The dh61ww is a bottom of the barrel mobo wiryfuture🦀#1706: but then I see shite like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-DH61WW-Socket-LGA-1155-Motherboard-Intel-I3-2100-4GB-Cooler-Bundle/202997123454?hash=item2f4392497e:g:L1IAAOSwTjdekEiT Muse#0557: And you can get a 2100 for pocket change wiryfuture🦀#1706: 2100 is like £4 wiryfuture🦀#1706: not worth £49 lmao Muse#0557: People are clearly willing to pay that price Muse#0557: Bundles sell well Muse#0557: Or not well wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732623499553800333/unknown.png Muse#0557: But people will pay extra because they are too lazy to find the individual cost Muse#0557: £20 is good Muse#0557: 1155 motherboards are £30+ now wiryfuture🦀#1706: that one has no ram tho
Muse#0557: :( Muse#0557: Still wiryfuture🦀#1706: ram is overpriced af rn wiryfuture🦀#1706: qwll wiryfuture🦀#1706: well Muse#0557: Not really wiryfuture🦀#1706: ddr3 is wiryfuture🦀#1706: ddr4 is fine Muse#0557: Motherboards and cpus have been the issue for Muse#0557: £25 for a 2400 Muse#0557: And £35 for a h61 Muse#0557: Like non green pcb h61 Muse#0557: Used to be £15 and £25 wiryfuture🦀#1706: I got 8GB 3200 for £35, 8GB ddr3 was cheapest like £26 for 8GB 1066mhz (all the others started at like £35 Muse#0557: Ive been picking up 8gb (2x4) for under 20
wiryfuture🦀#1706: So that was like, rare green boi ram Muse#0557: 1600mhz wiryfuture🦀#1706: damn wiryfuture🦀#1706: I can't find shite then :crome: Muse#0557: It takes time to shift through the 20000 drop down box crap Muse#0557: But you can still get ram for decent prices Muse#0557: Auctions are also a good option wiryfuture🦀#1706: auctions are horrible on ebay lol wiryfuture🦀#1706: pure luck if someone isn't using a bot wiryfuture🦀#1706: >tfw you get outbid by 1p 2 hours ago Muse#0557: Idk man wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm trying to find out how much I can flog this for wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732625029401149500/s-l1600.png Muse#0557: What exactly is it wiryfuture🦀#1706: ew cringe green board
wiryfuture🦀#1706: > what's the monetary value of an i3 2100 with a dh61ww and 8GB of ram? :crome: BigPierogi#3368: cringe ass nae nae baby Muse#0557: Ah Muse#0557: I might be interested wiryfuture🦀#1706: > cringe ass nae nae baby @BigPierogi https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732625211098398752/cover4.png Muse#0557: Im broke rn Muse#0557: So give me a bit but i might be interested wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't recommend this cpu to anyone lol Muse#0557: Id swap out the cpu wiryfuture🦀#1706: *cries in 20fps in 720p in csgo* BigPierogi#3368: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/296056831514509312/718995758514307162/image0-3.gif Muse#0557: Just umm remind in a week or so Phillip wiryfuture🦀#1706: someone sent me an offer on ebay wiryfuture🦀#1706: and I just want to get rid of it asap so I can get ryzen :Xdxdxd:
Muse#0557: Fair enough wiryfuture🦀#1706: so close wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'll be like ~£40-60 off a sex ryzen cpu if I manage to sell this Muse#0557: 1600? wiryfuture🦀#1706: already got the ram and the b450 should come tomorrow or the day after wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732626358018244618/unknown.png wiryfuture🦀#1706: eh Muse#0557: I would get a used 1600 wiryfuture🦀#1706: a 2700x is like £20 off that too wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X-bruh-tlol Muse#0557: 2700x Muse#0557: Thats a good buy wiryfuture🦀#1706: I think so wiryfuture🦀#1706: with a semi decent b450 that should be able to hit good clocks Muse#0557: Its a pretty big step up for £20
Muse#0557: Id delete that link in case somebody here snipes it lmao wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'll see how high I can flog that cpu and mobo for lol wiryfuture🦀#1706: I think it's going to take a while for me to sell it which is a shame tho wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'll have to just wait it out for my job to pay lmao wiryfuture🦀#1706: having to save up money like everyone else :crome: PewPewTron#1753: any new Roms for the LG FX0 Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732820049911349258/IMG-20200715-WA0008.jpeg Deleted User#0000: Is my PC basically dead? Deleted User#0000: From what I read in Google typing Ntfs.sys it means that something inside my PC like harddrive or my hardware has failed or something Deleted User#0000: It's at 100% complete for like 5 minutes Deleted User#0000: I restarted it myself and I did notice that the loading was quite slow... Specs: (if anyone is interested ig) i5-4460s RX 570 Sapphire Pulse 8gb (yea im aware its being bottlenecked by the i5 lol)
H81M-S1 8gb RAM (freq is 2600 if im not wrong) Deleted User#0000: Is this something I should worry about? vegetal#8870: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS Deleted User#0000: Well just reading a wikipedia page about NTFS won't help by much since I won't understand half the things said there, but I did search just NTFS (instead of Ntfs.sys).. So basically my hard drive failed/corrupted or something along those lines, I wonder if that means I now have high chances of getting some folders/images corrupt because of that... Ranvie#5623: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732901083885600788/20200715_170654.jpg Ranvie#5623: Should I get a third-party cooler for Q6600? MythologicalZ#3752: Not on a board like that MythologicalZ#3752: If it's running hot just repaste and check the push pins, old Intel stock is fine Ranvie#5623: Thx wiryfuture🦀#1706: upside down intel logo 😦 Ranvie#5623: what can i do with decade-old psu(s) circa.2007-2009? Ranvie#5623: should I throw them away? Deleted User#0000: what brand? Ranvie#5623: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732945262435106866/20200715_200224.jpg
Ranvie#5623: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732945292500009010/20200715_200203.jpg Ranvie#5623: They are mostly OEMs Deleted User#0000: doesnt look like a quality one wiryfuture🦀#1706: Make a bonfire Kacpreusz#7656: They look very dodgy Kacpreusz#7656: > Should I get a third-party cooler for Q6600? @Ranvie The old stock cooler is just fine Kacpreusz#7656: You can make a lab power supply out of them Kacpreusz#7656: Or get the fans out and use them as case fans Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/732987892347174973/USER_SCOPED_TEMP_DATA_orca-image-1211291111.jpeg Kacpreusz#7656: Can this be any good? mi3night#2562: Bruh mi3night#2562: Get delta layton#0621: is there a way to install realtek audio manager layton#0621: on a custom built
layton#0621: that didn’t come with it Alcyone#2233: motherboard mfg page will have the audio driver you need EmperorOfFinland#9257: so seems like my ASUS Sabretooth X58 has different EPS 12V than the connectors on my AX1600I EmperorOfFinland#9257: how i would go solving that Alcyone#2233: there is only 1 standard, youre probably trying to plug an 8 pin pcie into the eps EmperorOfFinland#9257: nah EmperorOfFinland#9257: it reads CPU Alcyone#2233: then you have them mixed up EmperorOfFinland#9257: its not PCIE EmperorOfFinland#9257: they are labeled Alcyone#2233: there is one side with a rounded pin and one with a square EmperorOfFinland#9257: yeah EmperorOfFinland#9257: but then the other 4 pins are rounded EmperorOfFinland#9257: its a 8 pin motherboard Alcyone#2233: eps is an atx standard and there is only 1 type of connection on both sides
EmperorOfFinland#9257: well not on mine. Alcyone#2233: youll figure it out EmperorOfFinland#9257: it might be different eps standard though. EmperorOfFinland#9257: i think it had different one. DarknessFalls229#2286: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733050705568333894/unknown.png EmperorOfFinland#9257: i will show you just a moment EmperorOfFinland#9257: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733051304355692664/IMG_20200715_230243.jpg EmperorOfFinland#9257: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733051463651164324/IMG_20200715_230436.jpg EmperorOfFinland#9257: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733051493875187909/IMG_20200715_230339.jpg DarknessFalls229#2286: and the CPU cable doesnt fit in the CPU connector? EmperorOfFinland#9257: yeah EmperorOfFinland#9257: 4 of the pins are right EmperorOfFinland#9257: the rest are not EmperorOfFinland#9257: as they are like the 4 pins EmperorOfFinland#9257: there is one way
EmperorOfFinland#9257: 4 pin to 8 pin EmperorOfFinland#9257: however EmperorOfFinland#9257: drawing 350W from that EmperorOfFinland#9257: its probably not a good idea DarknessFalls229#2286: are you sure it doesnt fit? EmperorOfFinland#9257: it does fit but the shapes are wrong EmperorOfFinland#9257: if i do it wrong EmperorOfFinland#9257: i might brick the cable EmperorOfFinland#9257: i have literally done that before EmperorOfFinland#9257: so i dont wish a repeat of that on a 480€ PSU EmperorOfFinland#9257: what if that board is atx EmperorOfFinland#9257: and i have EPS cables EmperorOfFinland#9257: 2 x 8-pin EPS/ATX12V cables (4+4-pin) EmperorOfFinland#9257: i spent some time reading EmperorOfFinland#9257: the pinout on the cable should be the same
EmperorOfFinland#9257: so it should not probably fry it EmperorOfFinland#9257: seems EmperorOfFinland#9257: that i can plug them together EmperorOfFinland#9257: as it will fit EmperorOfFinland#9257: and the pinout is similar EmperorOfFinland#9257: and it should not fry the thing EmperorOfFinland#9257: but im waiting still for confirmation DarknessFalls229#2286: @Alcyone hes figuring it out i guess EmperorOfFinland#9257: the problem is EmperorOfFinland#9257: that the system is with a 150€ mobo and 480€ psu so if it fries the cable. its really bad. EmperorOfFinland#9257: the psu should have overvoltprotection and stuff like that Kacpreusz#7656: For this price it must have that EmperorOfFinland#9257: the pinout should be similar EmperorOfFinland#9257: so i guess it should work? EmperorOfFinland#9257: ie ground is on the same pins
Kacpreusz#7656: If i was you i would contact the psu manufacturer EmperorOfFinland#9257: i spent time searching EmperorOfFinland#9257: and people have had no problems with doing that EmperorOfFinland#9257: 2 have not had problems MarcosCodas#6375: Hello! Looking to mount a LAMP-based server and need some advice for SBCs on the cheap. Won't have more than 20 concurrent users, and I don't need crap like wi-fi, bluetooth, etc. The cheapest I can get it, the better. Hopefully 4 cores, 2GB of RAM or better. Thanks! Kacpreusz#7656: Come on, even bloody Akygas have connectors that fit, contact the seller or manufscturet EmperorOfFinland#9257: the connector fits EmperorOfFinland#9257: thats the problem it fits like it should Kacpreusz#7656: Then what is wrong
EmperorOfFinland#9257: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733051304355692664/IMG_20200715_230243.jpg EmperorOfFinland#9257: instead of this MarcosCodas#6375: The 4 right-most pins on that PSU connector look quite janky, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was an issue with the connector (perhaps someone tried to make it fit into somewhere it wasn't compatible with?) DarknessFalls229#2286: >Computer power supply >Computer motherboard >CPU power connector >CPU power socket >CPU power connector fits in CPU power socket >Pinout is correct too >Is this the wrong connector? EmperorOfFinland#9257: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733075782280282182/IMG_20200716_004046.jpg EmperorOfFinland#9257: I literally unboxed a brandnew psu EmperorOfFinland#9257: That i ordered from a store EmperorOfFinland#9257: Its not used DarknessFalls229#2286: imagine spending 480 euro on a PSU then
EmperorOfFinland#9257: As you see the left 4 pinsare not square round square round EmperorOfFinland#9257: But it fits into the slot EmperorOfFinland#9257: And pins are similar EmperorOfFinland#9257: That is what im confused about DarknessFalls229#2286: ugh lemme see if one of my PSUs have that, EmperorOfFinland#9257: as its said to be eps12v/atx12v cable EmperorOfFinland#9257: 4+4 pin. DarknessFalls229#2286: My 1200 watt cooler master silent pro gold has them, and i can assure you, ive used this psu on a dual socket motherboard with overclocked CPUs https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733076974569914428/20200715_234501.jpg EmperorOfFinland#9257: ah EmperorOfFinland#9257: so its similar EmperorOfFinland#9257: good EmperorOfFinland#9257: lemme boot up the system Clode#2428: Today i found an intel socket 1150 motherboard at 20 euros on a store Clode#2428: Would that be a good buy? DarknessFalls229#2286: depends how good the motherboard is
EmperorOfFinland#9257: Result: It works EmperorOfFinland#9257: and the motherboard did not have a fiery death DarknessFalls229#2286: who would've thunk EmperorOfFinland#9257: so i guess EPS12V and ATX12V are compatible with eachother DarknessFalls229#2286: @Alcyone he's got it EmperorOfFinland#9257: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733079616066945106/Test_on_the_testbench.png EmperorOfFinland#9257: seems the capturecard system works too EmperorOfFinland#9257: ie capture testbench bios and other stuff EmperorOfFinland#9257: as if i was streaming on the testbench i could not stream the bios EmperorOfFinland#9257: but its rather weird infact as people just dont think about it EmperorOfFinland#9257: about the pins itself EmperorOfFinland#9257: that they are compatible mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733196523873108049/image0.png mi3night#2562: How’s one of those Foxious#1859: Gentlemen
Foxious#1859: I need advice quick Foxious#1859: Should i put the option to 3143 or 3280 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733220686159544380/JPEG_20200716_101543.jpg Foxious#1859: As i have a 3200 kit Foxious#1859: Or should i keep it at 2733, as xmp likes to keep it Foxious#1859: I have i5 9400F if it matters Foxious#1859: I need answers quick gentlemen, please mi3night#2562: 3333! mi3night#2562: Jk mi3night#2562: Set it at 3200 Foxious#1859: So 3143 wiryfuture🦀#1706: > Hello! > > Looking to mount a LAMP-based server and need some advice for SBCs on the cheap. Won't have more than 20 concurrent users, and I don't need crap like wi-fi, bluetooth, etc. > > The cheapest I can get it, the better. Hopefully 4 cores, 2GB of RAM or better.
> > Thanks! @MarcosCodas I think the pi 4 with 4GB of ram (or 8) would be able to handle that, but again, it would depend on what you're doing with that server wiryfuture🦀#1706: heavy fastcgi scripts and php files would slow it down DarknessFalls229#2286: is a pc with the specs: i7 3930k, asus rog rampage IV extreme, 16GB ddr3, quadro k1200 4GB and 150GB velociraptoe HDD worth 200 euro? MythologicalZ#3752: yeah MythologicalZ#3752: ez resell on board and cpu, r4e is highly sought after MythologicalZ#3752: rest is just bonus DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm interesting Deleted User#0000: I wanna upgrade my PC but I'm not sure if my power supply can give enough energy My specs are i5-4460s RX 570 Sapphire Pulse 8gb H81M-S1
8gb RAM 2600 freq Cooler Master 450W 80+ I wanna replace the i5, mobo and RAM with i3-9100f (I would have just gotten a Ryzen but I'm a bit short in cash and just wanna get rid of my i5 already) GIGABYTE B365M DS3H/Asus PRIME B365M-K (The k version is from a local store and the latter is from Amazon, and either buying one of them will come with an identical price) Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz Also, another question, which mobo should I pick out of the two are specified? (Sorry if my message doesn't really seem organized) DarknessFalls229#2286: dude, i dont think a 4 core i3 is going to be much better than your current 4 core i5 Deleted User#0000: oh
DarknessFalls229#2286: if you really want to upgrade just get a ryzen 3 3100 or 3300x or perhaps a used 2600 DarknessFalls229#2286: your PSU will hande a 6 core Deleted User#0000: I see, but will I need to upgrade my power supply if I get one of the 3? Deleted User#0000: oh Deleted User#0000: I appreciate the response Deleted User#0000: I hope I don't come off as too dumb but which motherboard is the best for one of the 3 CPUs you mentioned? I may just go for the 3 3100 store bought since it's a lot more cheaper than in Amazon (I live in Israel so I have to convert the shekels to dollars) Deleted User#0000: I'll buy the motherboard from Amazon since from the store I wanna buy the CPU doesn't offer any budget/cheap motherboards DarknessFalls229#2286: im not entirely into the motherboard eco, but best would be B450 for the 2600 and B550 for the 3100 and 3300x. i think you can put a 3100 and 3300x into a B450 mobo, but the bios has to be up-to-date EmperorOfFinland#9257: get a littlebit better psu maybe. DarknessFalls229#2286: nah DarknessFalls229#2286: no need EmperorOfFinland#9257: 450w is quite low DarknessFalls229#2286: but its not like hes running a 250 watt GPU and 140 watt CPU DarknessFalls229#2286: far from it EmperorOfFinland#9257: more akin to 650W would be enough for any needs really. if overcloking.
Deleted User#0000: Not interested in overclocking EmperorOfFinland#9257: thats already 390W EmperorOfFinland#9257: its quite dangerous DarknessFalls229#2286: ---facepalm--- EmperorOfFinland#9257: i mean i would rather have space so the psu does not overheat and fail or reset the system. DarknessFalls229#2286: dude EmperorOfFinland#9257: its kinda close. DarknessFalls229#2286: lemme rephrase that DarknessFalls229#2286: its ***NOT*** like he is running a 250 watt GPU and 140 watt CPU EmperorOfFinland#9257: that card can eat 200W EmperorOfFinland#9257: almost to the point DarknessFalls229#2286: bruh https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733290961165090906/unknown.png EmperorOfFinland#9257: i mean sure he can do that EmperorOfFinland#9257: i would not personally do that Deleted User#0000: Well on the page of the GPU that I have it says that the power consumption is <180
Deleted User#0000: https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/pulse-rx-570-8g-g5#Specification DarknessFalls229#2286: dont make me fetch the video where TYC is using a 450 watt PSU to power a 3950x and RTX 2080ti Deleted User#0000: Oh wait nvm it says that it's recommended that I have a 500 PSU, wait but I have a 450, well now that's confusing DarknessFalls229#2286: as long as you have a decent 12v rail youre fiiiiiine EmperorOfFinland#9257: so you better checkthat. Deleted User#0000: What exactly is a 12v rail?.. Deleted User#0000: Again, sorry if I'm being a nuisance for not knowing much vegetal#8870: i run a r5 2600 and 1660 super on 450w DarknessFalls229#2286: on your PSU you have 3 voltage rails, each with different ratings. youve got 3.3v, 5v and 12v. 12 volt is mainly used to power your CPU and GPU, which is why it needs a high Ampere rating DarknessFalls229#2286: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg6pz7YTxyA Deleted User#0000: I see, and I suppose the PSU I have does have that rating Deleted User#0000: Also the Ryzen 3 3100 is better with a RAM that has a frequency of 3000 and above correct? DarknessFalls229#2286: pretty much all ryzen CPUs yes Deleted User#0000: Interesting DarknessFalls229#2286: im using 3000MHz ram
DarknessFalls229#2286: with my ryzen EmperorOfFinland#9257: 3300x is better for gaming. EmperorOfFinland#9257: as the difference is literally 20fps EmperorOfFinland#9257: for like 20-30€ Deleted User#0000: I can't find the 3300x on Amazon though DarknessFalls229#2286: @Deleted User in that video skip to 7:34 DarknessFalls229#2286: he talks a bit about ratings and stuff Deleted User#0000: 👍🏻 Kacpreusz#7656: Any ideas for what i can do with this? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733294812786065418/IMG_20200716_140934417.jpg EmperorOfFinland#9257: replace cooler and oc EmperorOfFinland#9257: whats the cpu on it though EmperorOfFinland#9257: if its locked? EmperorOfFinland#9257: then you cant DarknessFalls229#2286: dude, your first impression is to OC? DarknessFalls229#2286: id say use it for a retro rig
Kacpreusz#7656: Celeron D 3.06ghz socket 478, 2x 512mb ram ddr1 Samsung, 1x 256mb ram ddr1 Corsair, 80gb Sata HDD, Elsa Erazor III LT G gpu EmperorOfFinland#9257: its old hardware. ofc it needs to be overclocked. DarknessFalls229#2286: hahaha no EmperorOfFinland#9257: i do that to all computers that i have. EmperorOfFinland#9257: if its possible EmperorOfFinland#9257: youre talking to a person who has a testbench for stuff like that. EmperorOfFinland#9257: what did you realistically expect as my answer DarknessFalls229#2286: bruh DarknessFalls229#2286: i have a testbench Kacpreusz#7656: The GPU is an Nvidia Riva TNT 2 Model 64 DarknessFalls229#2286: and a ton of retro stuff DarknessFalls229#2286: and a 1200 watt PSU to pair along with it EmperorOfFinland#9257: then why youre complaining about that then EmperorOfFinland#9257: you should know DarknessFalls229#2286: i should know that not everything is about overclocking old shit
EmperorOfFinland#9257: if it can be OCed it will be OCed EmperorOfFinland#9257: i dont collect stuff that cant be Overclocked. DarknessFalls229#2286: id rather think about the longevity of my parts, especially rare parts EmperorOfFinland#9257: i usually pick parts that are not that expensive to begin with. DarknessFalls229#2286: now pumping 1.5 volt into a Q6600 i dont give a shit about EmperorOfFinland#9257: celeron d is not exactly valuable EmperorOfFinland#9257: to my knowledge DarknessFalls229#2286: but has plenty of performance when you think about older operating systems like windows 95, 98 or 2k EmperorOfFinland#9257: i have athlon 64 3000+ for that EmperorOfFinland#9257: what i plan to oc for the fun DarknessFalls229#2286: but the dude aint EmperorOfFinland#9257: well he does not have to heed my advice DarknessFalls229#2286: and i reccommend him not to either EmperorOfFinland#9257: i mean whats the problem of OCeing old budget parts. EmperorOfFinland#9257: easily replaceable.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: cpus like that are basically free already. wiryfuture🦀#1706: > Any ideas for what i can do with this? @Kacpreusz paint the sata cable a nicer colour unless you're putting it somewhere orange Bogi76#3090: ok so if i have 3rd gen pentium Bogi76#3090: should 3rd gen i7 work? wiryfuture🦀#1706: @Bogi76 if the platform is the same and you have a capable enough psu then sure? Bogi76#3090: k vegetal#8870: > Any ideas for what i can do with this? @Kacpreusz use it as a retro build JoshTheTechie#2808: hello everyone. I've got a core 2 quad system built up with a corsair cx500 psu and was wondering if a gtx 570 would be fine with that psu as I know the requirements are 600w but I was thinking that the core 2 quad might limit it DarknessFalls229#2286: if its a decent CX model it should be fine, but indeed the Q6600 might be the limiting factor, especially at stock speeds DarknessFalls229#2286: but it also depends on the game, most games are more reliant on GPU than other games JoshTheTechie#2808: yeah I just have a lot of parts to put a few pcs together as i get them when I upgrade friends and family computers JoshTheTechie#2808: yeah its a q6600 at stock speeds, so I hope it will work MarcosCodas#6375: @wiryfuture🦀 Thank you! ended up getting a Rock64 4GB, with case and PSU for $35, shipped. I think it's a pretty good deal. I'll try to optimize the software so that it doesn't kill the cores, as they are the same as the Pi 3. It should be enough for what I'm trying to do.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I think 4GB ram is necessary, but the cpu necessary isn't that much, because you still have the host OS and updates and stuff wiryfuture🦀#1706: @MarcosCodas if you install any version of webmin, you can have easy access wiryfuture🦀#1706: I had a pi 3b+ with iirc 1GB of ram and that struggled because of the low memory wiryfuture🦀#1706: also, no heatsink wiryfuture🦀#1706: get a heatsink or other cooling solution or you'll encounter terrible throttling as soon as anything starts happening wiryfuture🦀#1706: with some sort of cooling, it'll be quite capable MarcosCodas#6375: Yeah, I was thinking of Webmin or I think there's another one which is even lighter @wiryfuture🦀 The case I got is metal and has a heatsink built in wiryfuture🦀#1706: I played around with a couple when I had my pi, webmin was the only one I found that was being actively developed on and worked well with a good featureset wiryfuture🦀#1706: there was a lighter one that showed system info but you couldn't upload/download files and didn't seem to have quite as active development MarcosCodas#6375: @wiryfuture🦀 this is what I was thinking of using: https://froxlor.org/ wiryfuture🦀#1706: I had an issue where updates would take ages because my pi would throttle because I didn't have a heatsink MarcosCodas#6375: Seems quite well developed wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't see a file upload/download system for that wiryfuture🦀#1706: if (as you said) you have 20 visitors concurrently, being able to develop and modify anything on the fly would be helpful MarcosCodas#6375: Of course, it's crucial
wiryfuture🦀#1706: otherwise you'll still have to use SFTP or other wiryfuture🦀#1706: if you want the tools to give others access to their data and their data alone, I believe there's a version of webmin for that called "virtualmin" or something wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733349371273281666/unknown.png MarcosCodas#6375: Nah, I'll be managing the filesystem by myself MarcosCodas#6375: I'll be giving frontend and high level stuff (like site admin) to users MarcosCodas#6375: But backstage, it'll just be me MarcosCodas#6375: And yeah, I don't want to deal with FTP or SSH just to push a couple of files MarcosCodas#6375: I'll look into it more MarcosCodas#6375: Thank you for the heads up wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm looking into setting up virtualmin myself for some users so if I get around to that soon I can tell you how that goes MarcosCodas#6375: If you could, it'd be great Muse#0557: This pc will only output an image through the motherboard io, any ideas how to fix this? MarcosCodas#6375: Try a different PCI-e port for your GPU, if you have one MarcosCodas#6375: Check if the PIC-e port is allowed and turned on in the bios MarcosCodas#6375: PCI-e*
MarcosCodas#6375: Report back and let's see what's up @Muse MarcosCodas#6375: Is it a new mobo? Muse#0557: Its a h61 Muse#0557: Only one 16x slot Muse#0557: It used to work just fine Alcyone#2233: check bios and se if there is a primary graphics option and select pcie I think it is in the chipset menu MarcosCodas#6375: Were you running any overclocking? Have you checked your PSU to make sure the GPU is getting proper power? Have you tried another GPU? Kacpreusz#7656: I have an Gigabyte ATX mobo with a athlon 64x2 5200+ and 4gb of ram, currently it's built into my Slavic iMac but i want to do something better with this, any suggestions? wiryfuture🦀#1706: ebay seller sent an offer of £154 to the people watching his listing 😭 wiryfuture🦀#1706: ryzen 7 2700x wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't have the money yet grrrr wiryfuture🦀#1706: only £58 wiryfuture🦀#1706: I can't sell and work fast enough for this guy 😹
MarcosCodas#6375: @Kacpreusz I'm building my own arcade cabinet with a similarly-aged setup. MarcosCodas#6375: @wiryfuture🦀 is that just for the processor? wiryfuture🦀#1706: yes wiryfuture🦀#1706: good deal KeZz#4943: Wonder. What could be the issue if a PC sometimes boots and sometimes boots but without display, keyboard or headphones working. No LED lights turning on for the peripherals. Temps are fine. Rams been checked and the monitor, headphones and keyboard aren't defective either. Rysing Dragoon#5628: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733727196002385991/hooo_boy.PNG Rysing Dragoon#5628: I made a very loose upgrade plan for my PC Rysing Dragoon#5628: Not gonna lie, this feels a bit extra given I still don't have a salary of any kind yet Bogi76#3090: looks similar to mine Bogi76#3090: when i switch to ryzen Rysing Dragoon#5628: Technically I'm already on ryzen Rysing Dragoon#5628: But I'm about to not only switch to Zen2, but I'm also going to play a risky move ~~or so I feel that way~~ Rysing Dragoon#5628: As in buying an X570 TUF board to replace the current B450 Pro 4 board TheFifthAce#4128: @Rysing Dragoon 5600xt is a shit card Rysing Dragoon#5628: I'm 100% aware
TheFifthAce#4128: rather have a 2060 BigPierogi#3368: "waves" BigPierogi#3368: what is this corona Rysing Dragoon#5628: Reason why I didn't put an RX 5700 in the list was because I couldn't find one for under $320 Rysing Dragoon#5628: Also, I couldn't find a better term for the upgrades Rysing Dragoon#5628: And imo it's a better way to upgrade through phases anyway akin to buying everything at once TheFifthAce#4128: 3000 series cards coming soon Rysing Dragoon#5628: I'm aware Rysing Dragoon#5628: Again, this is far from being the final plan Rysing Dragoon#5628: I'm trying to be flexible with my upgrades, which is why I started with the case and the noctua fans for the first wave Rysing Dragoon#5628: Because at least they won't be as obsolete in the case an improved model is released a few days/weeks later Bogi76#3090: tbh my current plan is Bogi76#3090: get the i7 Bogi76#3090: then probably ssd and better cpu cooler down the line wiryfuture🦀#1706: Hey guys, I need some help, I have a hd 7950, it works fine, but I can't get into my bios with it
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I couldn't on my dh61ww, I can't on my b450 either wiryfuture🦀#1706: hmm wiryfuture🦀#1706: I think it's a display issue wiryfuture🦀#1706: yep wiryfuture🦀#1706: cringe MarcosCodas#6375: Plug it into your TV (if you have one) if you need to do a quick change Dstroyer101ftw#6616: unknown MSI model motherboard, No display output at all, VGA debug light flashes on startup but shuts off after 10-15 seconds or so. Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Gpu is a gtx1060 Dstroyer101ftw#6616: The CPU fan is pretty much stationary but twitches erratically Foxious#1859: That sounds to me like 1. CPU overheating 2. PSU being rotten 3. RAM Foxious#1859: but im not an expert Foxious#1859: check thermal paste, re-seat ram and try with another psu Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Got it Dstroyer101ftw#6616: The thermal paste looks fine, I checked it yesterday Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I just turned it on earlier today after fixing up jaudio and there was just no output
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Second Psu didnt work Dstroyer101ftw#6616: rams reseated Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I reseated it, there was a ram error, then the VGA error light showed up again Dstroyer101ftw#6616: reseated it to original position DRAM error for a 3 seconds and then VGA error for 5 Foxious#1859: hm Foxious#1859: how old is the mobo Foxious#1859: what socket? Foxious#1859: 775? 1151? Foxious#1859: As if its more than a decade old, you could try to take off the bios battery Foxious#1859: if that wont work Foxious#1859: the motherboard could just be busted Foxious#1859: but im not an expert Dstroyer101ftw#6616: It's fairly new Dstroyer101ftw#6616: Dunno what socket Dstroyer101ftw#6616: It was working practically flawlessly just earlier today, except for some hardware issues with the front panel audio
Argon_18#7133: Can someone confirm for me if this is AGP or PCI plz https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733904180745470003/image0.png Argon_18#7133: I think it’s PCI but I just wanted some confirmation Alcyone#2233: that is pci, agp has interleaved fingers and a different slot layout. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/733920453650939984/BUS_GUIDE_AGP.png Tinybox#9112: f for my logitech g710+ Tinybox#9112: poured water on it Tinybox#9112: turned it on today Tinybox#9112: macro 4 and the shift key dont work Tinybox#9112: could live with macro 4 not working Tinybox#9112: b u t the shift key Tinybox#9112: cherry brown was nice while it lated welp. Tinybox#9112: Back to my 8 year old rubber dome. Tinybox#9112: Which survived way more than it should have ngl DarknessFalls229#2286: because its used to getting domed Bertie Kemp#1114: My friend wants to upgrade their pc, they have a X3430 CPU, 8GB DDR3, P7P55D Mobo and GTX 1050. any ideas on what they can upgrade to? They have a tiny budget, less than £100 so i am thinking upgrade the cpu to X3470 and double the ram? Thoughts? Muse#0557: I5 3450, H61, 240gb SSD, Another 8GB of ram
Bertie Kemp#1114: They have a 128gb ssd, they are mainly complaining about slow loading times and sometimes slow desktop experience, I was thinking double the threads might help since X3470 is around £25 Muse#0557: The difference between a x3450 and 70 isnt that big Muse#0557: Especially if they have a p55 board Muse#0557: Do they have a half decent cooler? Bertie Kemp#1114: Don't think so Bertie Kemp#1114: Surely 8 threads vs 4 threads will help, its clocked quite a bit faster too Muse#0557: Yes but i feel like getting a x3450 with a slight overclock and a decent cooler is a better buy since they can re-use the cooler down the road Bertie Kemp#1114: X3450 xeon or i5 3450? Or are they the same just one has the xeon name? DarknessFalls229#2286: i think he talking about the xeon Bertie Kemp#1114: Oh I get you, so x3450 for £10 with 8 threads, try overclock with the okayish mobo and get a good cpu cooler to overclock, got it, that's a good idea DarknessFalls229#2286: dont forget to double the ram DarknessFalls229#2286: though youre probably limited to four 4GB sticks Muse#0557: ^ Bertie Kemp#1114: Would the dark rock 4 be decent enough for overclocking the x3450? DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah should be fine
Bertie Kemp#1114: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734035218175885342/bd53a671-4466-462a-bd44-204499848d35.png Bertie Kemp#1114: i assume this cooler is crap for overclocking it lol DarknessFalls229#2286: aint the worst ive seen DarknessFalls229#2286: what kinda ram sticks does he have? DarknessFalls229#2286: cause that looks like 3 sticks inside 4 slots Muse#0557: Jesus dont buy a dark rock 4 its 4x the cost of the cpu @Bertie Kemp Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I removed my gpu and now my pc starts up Bertie Kemp#1114: @Muse What CPU cooler would be a good choice for a lower cost? Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734168976782786640/IMG_20200718_214441214.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734168977495949362/IMG_20200718_214437726.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734168981786591327/USER_SCOPED_TEMP_DATA_orca-image--1262561458.jpeg Kacpreusz#7656: Now this is a budget build Kacpreusz#7656: Not finished yet Kacpreusz#7656: I will add a DVD re-writer and front i/o Kacpreusz#7656: And improove the fan mounting Kacpreusz#7656: > @Muse What CPU cooler would be a good choice for a lower cost? @Bertie Kemp What socket do you have?
Kacpreusz#7656: If it's AMx or with the same mounting mechanizm, get a stock cooler for the Phenom II X4 Black edition, if you're running 775 get the old stock cooler with a copper base, if anything newer i suggest SPC Spartan 3, CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo, etc the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: what is the coolermaster cmp 505 and why do i find it everywhere but not on coolermaster's website the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: on coolermaster's website they have the cmp 500 but not the 505 mi3night#2562: @Bertie Kemp hyper 212 evo mi3night#2562: I mean used air coolers are good mi3night#2562: Just look on eBay mi3night#2562: Fans are cheap to replace if they sometimes break mi3night#2562: If ur running ryzen 7 cpu u can sometimes sell the cooler for like $30 mi3night#2562: I sold mine for $40 Bertie Kemp#1114: I need an air cooler that can overclock a X3450, would a hyper 212 evo be enough for overclocking? Its not that different to the one they already have Bertie Kemp#1114: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734337144218320946/bd53a671-4466-462a-bd44-204499848d35.png wapted#6788: 212 probs wouldnt give you any more oc room than that does DarknessFalls229#2286: @"Cobs" this worth anything? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734410016597082184/20200719_160239.jpg "Cobs"#1150: if its a decent cat6 or cat5e patch panel "Cobs"#1150: yeah you might get a little bit for it
Lady Mipha#0611: ^ Bogi76#3090: best "budget" cpu cooler for i7 3770? Muse#0557: I normally buy a snowman Muse#0557: But delivery is long Bogi76#3090: everyone is showing Hyper 212s and 34 Esports duo to my face lol Muse#0557: They are all more or less the same DarknessFalls229#2286: @"Cobs" what'd you think i can get for it? DarknessFalls229#2286: would you like to buy it? "Cobs"#1150: I don't use patch panels as i've no use for them in a small space "Cobs"#1150: you'd probably get £5-10 for it "Cobs"#1150: depends on quality really DarknessFalls229#2286: alright, ill just put a 5'er on it and be done with it DarknessFalls229#2286: also found a projector with a massive 800x480 resolution Kacpreusz#7656: are you f**king kidding me? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734429359850651648/rukmnga.png Kacpreusz#7656: I was thinking i'm paying for LTE and not for dial-up
DarknessFalls229#2286: could also be the server youre downloading from DarknessFalls229#2286: but thats pretty slow Kacpreusz#7656: Any C2D P8700 users out there? Kacpreusz#7656: I have an Pentium T4200 2.0GHz in my laptop and it's very slow on today's internet, especially youtube and the P8700 is the most powerful chip i can upgrade to thanosks#3929: so thanosks#3929: on convertible laptops how can you make the touch keyboard not close automatically Kacpreusz#7656: idk, try uninstalling software from the mNUFcturer Kacpreusz#7656: manufacturer Kacpreusz#7656: this keyboard is terrible thanosks#3929: oh thanosks#3929: its the build in thanosks#3929: can i just install a second one? wiryfuture🦀#1706: > on convertible laptops how can you make the touch keyboard not close automatically @thanosks there's some software to improve windows on screen keyboard but I couldn't get it to work wiryfuture🦀#1706: so it opens and closes at good times
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but I don't remember what it's called and couldn't get it to work on mine thanosks#3929: oof thanosks#3929: how is it called thanosks#3929: @wiryfuture🦀 wiryfuture🦀#1706: gimme a sec wiryfuture🦀#1706: > how is it called @thanosks sorry I can't find it thanosks#3929: rip wiryfuture🦀#1706: but you have to pay like £5 for a license or something after the free trial ends Reydy#0283: Hi guys, i need help deciding what cpu i'm buying Reydy#0283: im not sure if the i7 2600 is better than the xeon e3-1260L Reydy#0283: or just the i5 3470 wiryfuture🦀#1706: I suspect the i7 would have higher clocks, am I right? Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734566177254277290/Screenshot_20200720-022339.png Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734566400881983558/Screenshot_20200720-022427.png
Kacpreusz#7656: @Reydy i7 is more powerful, Xeon has lower TDP Kacpreusz#7656: And the i5 is slightly slower than the i7 Yon#7961: how do you check your cpu on laptop Yon#7961: or performace Kacpreusz#7656: Right click on computer and select properties Yon#7961: ok Kacpreusz#7656: @Reydy If you want best performance get the i7, if you want low TDP get the Xeon, and i wouldn't consider the i5 Reydy#0283: Thanks @Kacpreusz they have very similar prices and i got confused thx wiryfuture🦀#1706: urgh how the fuck do I get rid of this hardware, dH61Ww, i3-2120 and 8GB ram wiryfuture🦀#1706: bruh wiryfuture🦀#1706: maybe I can get a glass case for the green pcb wiryfuture🦀#1706: lol Foxious#1859: So Foxious#1859: eh Foxious#1859: I did some maintenance on my xbox 360
Foxious#1859: and i apparently put the ribbon cable that controls the power button and eject button the wrong way around Foxious#1859: because now the power "button" /touchpad now opens the disc drive Foxious#1859: and eject button turns the console on Foxious#1859: How the hell i managed to do that, i dont know Foxious#1859: but im a bit of a wizard myself Foxious#1859: almost as useless as merasmus mi3night#2562: i have a question mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734644631958192198/38557071613630TelH.png mi3night#2562: what gpu is that mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734644660785643591/17177971613630TelH.png mi3night#2562: thanks if you can identify it mi3night#2562: the buyer aint responding mi3night#2562: im thinking it's a 1063 asus dual mi3night#2562: if thats true how much should i pay for this pc? it's got 4670k some asus z97 mobo and 16gb of ram Foxious#1859: Buyer aint responding
Foxious#1859: you mean the seller? Foxious#1859: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734650872226775080/7057b00073fde9782abc403d917b20c5.png Foxious#1859: Looks like Asus 1060 Dual, just like you said @mi3night mi3night#2562: @Foxious yeah I meant the seller Kacpreusz#7656: Any custom roms for the Motorola One? The stock os is terrible, it has a lot of annyoing bugs thatubuntuguy#5914: @Kacpreusz https://forum.xda-developers.com/motorola-one/development/rom-pixel-experience-t4132959 thatubuntuguy#5914: Pixel experience is solid PanasonicBlueray#8325: Hey, could anyone help me with pricing an old laptop? I'm just starting to pick up PCs to repair and sell, so I'm not really sure about what price is right for some stuff PanasonicBlueray#8325: I'd check Ebay or something, but I can't find any Acer Aspire 5610z out there PanasonicBlueray#8325: It's this chunk https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734913567090016286/20200720_171742.jpg PanasonicBlueray#8325: Windows 7, 1 GB of ram, some generic Intel CPU that the Bios recs as a Genuine Intel CPU Lady Mipha#0611: most likely a core 2 duo Lady Mipha#0611: also @Tech Helper Budget#8265: What specs Budget#8265: Check DXDIAG
Budget#8265: Looks like £25 stuff PanasonicBlueray#8325: I was thinking something like that Muse#0557: It does say 5610z on the bezel Muse#0557: So its the correct model Muse#0557: https://www.miniputer.com/Acer/Aspire_5610Z.html PanasonicBlueray#8325: > Check DXDIAG @Budget on the console? Sorry I'm a bit new Muse#0557: Found a spec page Budget#8265: Windows Key + R PanasonicBlueray#8325: That's the only bit of Info i found Budget#8265: Then type Budget#8265: DXDIAG Muse#0557: Its a C2D PanasonicBlueray#8325: > Its a C2D @Muse I only found something about a
Intel 943GML Express Budget#8265: Please can you post the DXDiag Page Budget#8265: I can tell you more from that Muse#0557: Its early C2D Budget#8265: Spec combinations on older laptops are rarely easy to be exact about Budget#8265: It looks like a £25 laptop PanasonicBlueray#8325: > Please can you post the DXDiag Page @Budget I'm on that, but its taking a while Muse#0557: It is a low end early C2D laptop PanasonicBlueray#8325: It's from 2006, so it makes sense Muse#0557: The regular 5610 has a T2050 which is a very low end C2D Budget#8265: Ye may be Core Duo though given 1GB RAM Budget#8265: Wouldnt be suporised Muse#0557: I imagine the z is just an upgraded screen model or something Budget#8265: DXDiag will tell all
Budget#8265: Anyways £25 would be my pricing, its a shite old laptop, not worth all too much Budget#8265: Gives room for offers Muse#0557: It has a pentium M of some sort Muse#0557: So not even a C2D Muse#0557: 1.619Ghz PanasonicBlueray#8325: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734915285823258774/JPEG_20200720_183019.jpg Budget#8265: o wow Budget#8265: so non supported CPU interesting Budget#8265: Might have been swapped out at some point Budget#8265: So no identifying info Budget#8265: Could try CPU-Z but seeme like a pretty bad laptop regardless Budget#8265: So ill stick by my price Muse#0557: Fellas Muse#0557: Through process of elimination i have determined that is has a Pentium M T2060 PanasonicBlueray#8325: I guess this is the integrated graphics? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734915734215589899/JPEG_20200720_183142.jpg
Budget#8265: Indeed PanasonicBlueray#8325: > So ill stick by my price @Budget It's a lot better than what I was thinking tho, I almost posted it at 10 bucks Budget#8265: GMA 950 pretty bad Budget#8265: Eh its a low end laptop Budget#8265: £25 and let people lowball down Budget#8265: Thatd what id do PanasonicBlueray#8325: I just sold an very low end 2002 Vista one, so eh I might sell it at 25 bucks PanasonicBlueray#8325: **at that pricr Muse#0557: Its a low end 2007 laptop PanasonicBlueray#8325: Hope it sticks Muse#0557: I agree with budget PanasonicBlueray#8325: Thanks a lot fellas BigPierogi#3368: :50Fps:
Budget#8265: np Muse#0557: I remember playing borderlands 1 on GMA PanasonicBlueray#8325: I'm oddly intrigued to throw some games at it and see what this piece of junk can do Muse#0557: 19fps 480p Budget#8265: GMA950 can do a lot of retro stuff Lady Mipha#0611: ^ Budget#8265: Look for my gaming on a laptop from the trash video Budget#8265: 👍 Budget#8265: Its old Budget#8265: but GMA950 PanasonicBlueray#8325: > Look for my gaming on a laptop from the trash video @Budget that one usually sticks in my rotation when I binge your channel actually PanasonicBlueray#8325: Thanks again fellas, I'm going to post it to FB market rn Budget#8265: Fair enough. Good Luck PanasonicBlueray#8325: Thanks mate
Kacpreusz#7656: I have a Dell Latitude C640 in average condition, the hard drive is barely alive, should i replace it and keep it or sell it as is? Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/734922317531971654/JPEG_20200715_123623.jpg Muse#0557: I think that laptop looks awesome Muse#0557: You can get a new HDD for pocket change mi3night#2562: @the aggresive toilet flusher I put 3k MHz and 1.42v on ram now my pc won’t post mi3night#2562: Fuck the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: cmos the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: clear cmos the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: also 1.42 is alot considering u have a good kit the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: like 1.42 isnt little but for ur kit its alot the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: u have b-die stuff mi3night#2562: Should I reseat ram mi3night#2562: I forgot how to clear cmos PanasonicBlueray#8325: > I have a Dell Latitude C640 in average condition, the hard drive is barely alive, should i replace it and keep it or sell it as is? @Kacpreusz if you want to keep it, maybe getting a ssd and making the PC too fast for its own right isn't a bad idea
PanasonicBlueray#8325: Just check if the HDD has a proritary connector mi3night#2562: @the aggresive toilet flusher what voltage should I run it at mi3night#2562: 1.38? mi3night#2562: Man fuck Samsung b die:ye: the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: 1.35 the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > I forgot how to clear cmos @mi3night should be a switch the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: or pins the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: and if not the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: remove battery the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: for like 5 mins mi3night#2562: I cleared it already the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: kek mi3night#2562: It boots into 3k mi3night#2562: Idk 3.1k