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Muse#0557: Yep and they sell well too
DarknessFalls229#2286: all because of that 🇷🏳️🌈🐝
Muse#0557: I think ebay likes listing that have multiple quantity aswell
vegetal#8870: R gay bee
thatubuntuguy#5914: Lmao
thatubuntuguy#5914: Being lgbt i approve of this meem
Deleted User#0000: how do i create an bootable drive (pendrive) with these? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/723943524080418856/unknown.png
Deleted User#0000: i want to flash an bios on a system where there isn't any OS in
Deleted User#0000: and also, im trying to use an NVME M.2 but the windows install says it cannot install on it, i already tried the only logical options to change but UEFI doesnt works on the bootable drives i have which should bcuz one of them IS uefi only and still only works on Legacy, i don't know if thats what stops the install
Muse#0557: What motherboard is it?
Muse#0557: Z97XG3
Muse#0557: Most mobos have tools to install updates from the bios
Muse#0557: Gigabyte have QFlash
MythologicalZ#3752: that is z97 gaming 3
Muse#0557: Try put everything you've downloaded onto a usb |
MythologicalZ#3752: nice little board
Muse#0557: And look for the Qflash tool
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah, board has qflash so easy enough to update
Deleted User#0000: yeah just found it
Deleted User#0000: but about the NVME
MythologicalZ#3752: still might not boot to nvme since z97 is kinda messy with it
Deleted User#0000: oh
Deleted User#0000: so its a glitch thing not an option thing?
MythologicalZ#3752: could be either, update bios and see what happens
Deleted User#0000: oh
Deleted User#0000: can't
Deleted User#0000: Q-Flash says there is no drive
Deleted User#0000: but it is inserted
Deleted User#0000: what..
MythologicalZ#3752: did you format it properly? |
Deleted User#0000: well, NTFS?
Deleted User#0000: i did
MythologicalZ#3752: needs to be fat for qflash
Deleted User#0000: ohh ok
Deleted User#0000: doing it
Deleted User#0000: oh my god
Deleted User#0000: artifacts on detroit?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I think bioses/uefi like fat32 the most
Racey#8574: FAT32 is basically effective on most systems
D.D.M#8226: Its good if you use it on under 32gb
D.D.M#8226: Unless you plan to store larger files than 4gb
Miki2305#5707: So, my friend underclocked his gpu because if he clocks he gpu to factory specs it has artefacting, is that dead/dying memory?
Lumaterian#3557: depends, does he have to underclock the core memory or both
D.D.M#8226: If its both than its the whole card
Lady Mipha#0611: @Miki2305 ^ |
mi3night#2562: Fat 32 is good compatibility wise because I can use it with a Mac and PS3
mi3night#2562: But ntfs if all u do is use modern windows things
vegetal#8870: yo mama so fat she can only save files up to 4gb
thatubuntuguy#5914: you saw this on reddit
vegetal#8870: true...
mish#5687: reddit cooled!
Miki2305#5707: Yep, the whole card is dead
Miki2305#5707: So I gotta guve him my old gpu
wiryfuture🦀#1706: **if your bios file is over 4GB, what the fuck**
Muse#0557: A. Who has a bios file over 4gb
B. If its that big you can probably do it through software
wiryfuture🦀#1706: "AMD tries to support every processor they will ever make from now on one board, UEFI chips exceed size of internet"
wiryfuture🦀#1706: :OmegaxD:
wiryfuture🦀#1706: @"Cobs" You've go experience with hosting, wtf is up with this? Do I need to add command line arguments for garbage collection or is something else making it struggle? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/724619091985301545/unknown.png
"Cobs"#1150: Did you set it enough memory |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/724619215247507466/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I set it 7GB
"Cobs"#1150: that usually occurs if your cpu isn't fast enough or if its running out of memory
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I just gave it all 24 cores :JellyBeanFace:
"Cobs"#1150: or youve got something super laggy on your world
"Cobs"#1150: minecraft wont scale that high
wiryfuture🦀#1706: how many?
BigPierogi#3368: doesnt mc only use like 2 cores
"Cobs"#1150: probs 8-16 max
"Cobs"#1150: you need fast single core for mc server
wiryfuture🦀#1706: apparently there's also a server JRE or somehing
"Cobs"#1150: jre wont matter
wiryfuture🦀#1706: alr
"Cobs"#1150: youve alreadyy got that installed as its running altogether
"Cobs"#1150: no java runtime environment, no mc server boot |
vegetal#8870: mc server on 9900ks
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I mean this https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/javase-server-jre8-downloads.html
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Do I just need to feed it more ram???
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't know what I can do
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I have 14GB spare, lol I wonder
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I hope my server doesn't become jet engine
wiryfuture🦀#1706: a singe step on the fan curve goes from nearly silent to, oh yeah, there's definitely something going on
wiryfuture🦀#1706: this also looks fine https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/724623127988142110/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't think anything I do ever works lol
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it's still doing it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/724626126017658900/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: and only using about 6G ram
jay1185#0112: @wiryfuture🦀 is that 7 Days to Die?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: no
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ARK survival evolved
wiryfuture🦀#1706: couldn't get the server to work |
jay1185#0112: oh yeah derp. that's why it looked familiar. I hosted one from December->April for my friends and I
jay1185#0112: It's a pain in the ass, for real.
jay1185#0112: one friend couldn't even connect to it, though he could connect to others*, and i could connect to his P2P game
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I have everything port forwarded and steam set up, but I can't get it to show on server list
jay1185#0112: host OS?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ubuntu server 20.04
jay1185#0112: k just was curious, gimme a sec, i think i had that same problem
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it tells me that it couldn't connect to the steam api upon launch or something but apparently that's a normal error
jay1185#0112: also curious, does your ISP block you from seeing things on your public IP? Like, have you hosted other games and been able to see them in an in-game browser that shows your external IP?
My ISP doesn't allow me to see mine, for some reason.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: If i had a working computer i'd be able to check if I can connect via lan, but I don't
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Idk
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I've managed to host minecraft servers and apache and node I think that's mostly fine
jay1185#0112: damn this is a big download lol. gimme a few |
jay1185#0112: I think there was another port I had to open
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I opened like, 7777, 7778, 27015 or something and maybe a few more
jay1185#0112: rip, I had a screenshot of all the open ports for my games, and i think it's on the HD with the toasted board. I have to order a new drive to swap the board over, this Friday.
jay1185#0112: i'm about halfway downloaded for the server, i'll look thru the files and see if something jostles my memory
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Lol I have a google sheets with all my ports
jay1185#0112: nice lol. tbh, i hosted with win7 (ugh) but now the 'server' has ubuntu/7 hehe
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I try keep everything on ubuntu
wiryfuture🦀#1706: keep down the ram footprint on my server
wiryfuture🦀#1706: otherwise I'd be using double what I have now
jay1185#0112: i didn't see much of a difference on MC server usage between 7/ubuntu 20.04
jay1185#0112: but, i run vanilla
wiryfuture🦀#1706: 180 mods 😅
jay1185#0112: jesus that's not even minecraft anymore haha
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it's good though
wiryfuture🦀#1706: even if it uses lots of ram |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/724635030005219338/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: It has crashed so many times
wiryfuture🦀#1706: urgh
wiryfuture🦀#1706: guess this dual socket poweredge r620 isn't enough lmao
jay1185#0112: that's nuts
jay1185#0112: which CPUs and what RAM are in it?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: It only has 32GB at the moment but it has two E5-2620 v2s
Deleted User#0000: @wiryfuture🦀 is it ecc
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yeas
wiryfuture🦀#1706: aren't all servers ecc?
Deleted User#0000: I'm not sure
jay1185#0112: I'm pretty sure most servers are ECC
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Most tend to run ECC. Sometimes the CPU has no support for ECC and thus the server won't have ECC RAM. Like if your running the 9900KS. CPU's like the 9900KS makes since for Minecraft because of there high single core performance. I would be tempted to even disable hyperthreading and OC the CPU if the temperatures allow (I recommend for a +500MHz OC that the temps stay below 70C. Above that will degrade the CPU at an exponentially accelerated rate while overclocked. I know this because many of the CPU's I OC degrade or die within a year while staying under TJ MAX.) The new intel i9 should be the best CPU to run MC server on. Unfortanly MC only uses just a few cores and hammers one above all else.
Alcyone#2233: amperage is what mainly causes degradation
uoʇsodɾ#2412: No. Voltage + temp. |
Alcyone#2233: if you stay in safe voltage range, on ambient the amperage wont be that high
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Try telling that to my 8 core skylake.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: And my 4700MQ
uoʇsodɾ#2412: And my X9000
Alcyone#2233: ive been overclocking since pretty much it was available without changing crystals
Alcyone#2233: only hurt cpus when I was trying to
Alcyone#2233: I think you are just doing it wrong if you keep degrading chips
jay1185#0112: @wiryfuture🦀 I didn't forget about you, I had to go run a friend home from work. Looking into the server config now
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Yes. But I tend to keep them busy for many hours a day. There is a strong relationship between the life of the CPU and how much temperature it runs at vs how much voltage it is being given.
Alcyone#2233: you would have to be at very high temps and unsafe volts
wiryfuture🦀#1706: @jay1185 I don't know if this helps but I also want everything to work for both the steam and epic launcher versions
jay1185#0112: now that i have no idea about lol
Alcyone#2233: 9900k for example can run 1.4v at 85c and be fine 24/7 for years
uoʇsodɾ#2412: It's more like a curve then a set number.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WyfJyl9yfY |
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WyfJyl9yfY
uoʇsodɾ#2412: This guy explains it better than I can.
Alcyone#2233: i dont need bz to ramble for 2 hours to tell me what I already know
Alcyone#2233: most of what he is talking about only applies to extreme oc
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Well you clearly don't. If I was just gaming with the CPU's that I degraded then you would be correct. It would last for many years. I don't just game and tend to have my systems run 24/7 while under load.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: > Most tend to run ECC. Sometimes the CPU has no support for ECC and thus the server won't have ECC RAM. Like if your running the 9900KS. CPU's like the 9900KS makes since for Minecraft because of there high single core performance. I would be tempted to even disable hyperthreading and OC the CPU if the temperatures allow (I recommend for a +500MHz OC that the temps stay below 70C. Above that will degrade the CPU at an exponentially accelerated rate while overclocked. I know this because many of the CPU's I OC degrade or die within a year while staying under TJ MAX.) The new intel i9 should be the best CPU to run MC server on. Unfortanly MC only uses just a few cores and hammers one above all else.
@uoʇsodɾ Uh, I don't know anything about you, what you do or what you've done, but I can't imagine anyone using a 9900KS as (afaik) there's no server boards for it, which would provide the advanced remote access that servers need in order for your workflow to be optimal
Alcyone#2233: you could run prime small 24/7 at safe volts and be fine
uoʇsodɾ#2412: @Alcyone That's BS. I dare you to try it yourself. Push for 4.2GHz on all cores.
Alcyone#2233: ghz dont matter
Alcyone#2233: current is what degrades the cpu
Alcyone#2233: high current+high temps=bad idea
jay1185#0112: it's all a Silicon Lottery, btw.
Alcyone#2233: you shouldnt be overvolting zen2, amd 7nm is more fragile than your grans knickknacks
MythologicalZ#3752: yeha, let pbo do its thing |
MythologicalZ#3752: only people doing manual are subzero
Alcyone#2233: hence the "safe volts"
MythologicalZ#3752: for the cpu at least, memory is different story
Alcyone#2233: every piece of silicon has limits, and many are different
uoʇsodɾ#2412: @wiryfuture🦀 I see your point with Z490. No boards that have any good server features. The only intel boards that have such features are X299 or server chipsets that use the LGA 1200 socket. There is a X570 board from ASUS that has terrible out of band management features that don't provide any remote access. The rest of the X570 boards don't have any support for server stuff. Still my point stands. MC wants a single fast core. It will use other cores but it will always be less than the core that gets the MC main server thread. Think of it more like a single threaded program that has a few supporting threads. There are mods that help make it multithreaded but even then the program still likes a single fast core.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: okay
wiryfuture🦀#1706: While the performance would be greater, I don't think the power efficiency of using an i9 for a server is worth it
jay1185#0112: *meanwhile in FX 'server' land* hahaha
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I stated the GHz because if you try that with Ryzen then it would damage it unless you get it below freezing. If you tried that with Intel 14nm then it would be just fine for gaming but as soon as you start to use AVX workloads at that speed for a prolonged amount of time then it would also degrade if the temps went above 83C in my experience. 70C for 14nm at 4.2GHz AVX 24/7 might be acceptable. I don't have a 14nm CPU anymore to test that or the cooling required to get it under 70C at 4.2 on all cores. Excluding the quad core 14nm cpu's.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCi5hiIO4fs
jay1185#0112: @wiryfuture🦀 did you forward both 27015 and 27106?
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Now I want intel to do one just like this.
Alcyone#2233: lottery will decide where you land at safe volts, ive seen zen+ above and zen2 well over 4.2
Alcyone#2233: ive ran 14nm intel at 5.3ghz, would be unsafe on a bad bin but mine was a-okay there
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Single or all? And what workload for how long? |
Alcyone#2233: prime 95 small fft all cores
Alcyone#2233: and general usage. it was at under 1.4v and 85c so it was fine no matter what i used
wiryfuture🦀#1706: @jay1185 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/724698851750969465/unknown.png
jay1185#0112: well shit lol
wiryfuture🦀#1706: 27106?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: haven't seen that mentioned in any of the docs iirc
jay1185#0112: oh i wasn't referring to any official docs hehe just message boards, just a suggestion. you already have it open tho
wiryfuture🦀#1706: oh well
uoʇsodɾ#2412: How long on P95 and was it AVX/AXV2/AVX512 at that speed. "General usage" like web browsing and most games wouldn't stress it enough to make a large difference. On top of that "general usage" usually can't fully load more than 4 cores.
Alcyone#2233: I think you still fail to understand what causes degradation.
If you knew what you were talking about
> many of the CPU's I OC degrade or die within a year
that wouldn't be an issue because you would have learned something before it was "many"
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I know exactly why they died. I found that out with the X9000 CPU's I killed. To many volts for the temp. Even though the temp was under 70C while OC it still had to many volts going to it. For the I7 4700MQ it had a to high temp for the voltage I set. (SW OC while keeping under the 47W TDP [Really it reported pulling 35W and would go no higher]. The dell M6800 has no HW OC without a modified BIOS). The I7 7820X got killed because it ran at 4.0 - 4.1 GHZ while folding. The CPU ran under 85C and didn't go above 1.37 volts. It still degraded to the point where 5GHZ in games was not possible.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: AMPs have no effect. |
Alcyone#2233: the 7820x has a 4.3 all core turbo stock, with the boards stock avx offset that is the same clocks you claim. so you degraded it at default settings?
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Turbo is not the same as base clock.
Alcyone#2233: ive used sky-x and they all ran at the all core turbo all the time on x299
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Then they ran out of spec.
Alcyone#2233: x265 is avx and they all did great
Alcyone#2233: still doing great I bet if I call them
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Also I suspect some of the folding used the AVX 512 and would cause hot spots that the temperature sensor didn't detect. The way I OC it was I set the TJ Throttle to 85C and no AVX offset. Core 0, X50. Core 1, X50. Core 2, X48. Core 3, X45. Core 4, X45. Core 5,X48 Core 6, X49. Core 7, X50. CPU would throttle at 85C while trying to hit +4GHz.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: It never got above 4.2 GHZ while folding but hit 5GHz in games.
jay1185#0112: @wiryfuture🦀 what is your server name I can try to find it
DarknessFalls229#2286: @jay1185 you talking about ARK?
jay1185#0112: yeah
jay1185#0112: sry for delay, was watching budget stream
wiryfuture🦀#1706: @jay1185 I just called it "wiryfuture" with a password of ||yes||
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/724731429891735622/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: that's basically all the server ever says |
DarknessFalls229#2286: oh i remember the days of doing local hosted server and then trying to join
wiryfuture🦀#1706: except when I took a look this morning after it being on for a while and it was doing garbage collection (or rather, failing to) because it was running out of memory
DarknessFalls229#2286: ARK gave me soooo many error messages when trying to join a server
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I can't even host a server lol
wiryfuture🦀#1706: just doesn't show
DarknessFalls229#2286: ive had a lot of issues with that game
DarknessFalls229#2286: sure its fun, but the bugs and glitches are infuriating
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I can see that the server is slowly using more ram
DarknessFalls229#2286: ram leak?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: after startup it was at 600 MB, then it was 1.1G, now it's 1.5G
wiryfuture🦀#1706: maybe that's just starting up
wiryfuture🦀#1706: 🤷♀️
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but it did start running out of memory at some point, evident from the logs I had from earlier today
DarknessFalls229#2286: @wiryfuture🦀 btw what kinda minecraft server are you running? i might want to join if youre willing to have me. got a slight urge to start playing that game again
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't even know if it's running |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I had a vanilla network up at one time and also a modded one, but the modded one barely works and uses way too much cpu both server and client side
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I think my vanilla servers always had issues because I don't have enough upload bandwidth for it to communicate with the clients well, and the modded one is just weird 😳
DarknessFalls229#2286: hmmm... okay
DarknessFalls229#2286: i might then stick to singleplayer
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I could probably get everything to work tbh
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I just need to figure out what's causing minecraft servers to struggle
wiryfuture🦀#1706: they always do no matter what machine and what version and how many players
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it's like java is designed to not work :Hahahahaha:
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I might try MineOS, it might be able to fix some of my issues
jay1185#0112: @wiryfuture🦀 there's a way to start it w/o the steam api i think, it's like -nosteam or something
jay1185#0112: oh i'm thinking of BattlEye i think
DarknessFalls229#2286: oh its so weird, ive played a minecraft map, which replaced the ambient music with Breath of the Wild music
DarknessFalls229#2286: and its just weird to me
DarknessFalls229#2286: cause ive played Breath of the Wild
DarknessFalls229#2286: but alas, got bored of the map after i had to walk 3000 blocks to get from one village to the next |
jay1185#0112: damn
DarknessFalls229#2286: HAHAHA, im spitting through that maps resources and the "anxiety.ogg" is the panic piano track when you encounter a guardian
Tinybox#9112: Question, just to make sure:
The issue of ryzen 1st gen reporting 20c lower temps is long long resolved? Right?
Alcyone#2233: Yes, that should have vbeen rectified by monitoring software some time ago
Lumaterian#3557: yeah that got fixed like a month after launch lol
Lumaterian#3557: but if you want to check just cross reference your temps with the ones shown in ryzen master
Tinybox#9112: Whew starting to oc my R5 1600 which for some reason defaults to 1.4v https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/725018780681502739/IMG_20200623_180446.jpg
Tinybox#9112: What should I change here? (spread is already disabled)
Tinybox#9112: This is kinda tippy @Tech Helper https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/725019716132929686/IMG_20200623_180859.jpg
Tinybox#9112: 1.4v default?
Muse#0557: Scraw
Tinybox#9112: Scraw?
Tinybox#9112: Do I need to change anything if it's default is 1.4v if I want to oc?
Should I use a negative offset to lower it? |
Tinybox#9112: Its definitely going up to 1.4v
DarknessFalls229#2286: its probably fine if it does that at idle, my 3600 goes up to 1.475v at idle, but drops when doing all core workloads
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Tinybox
Tinybox#9112: @DarknessFalls229 I figured out why, it was PBO and Core enhancement which was turned on, btw I have a question, if I want to OC, but also want my CPU to lower its core voltage during idle, or when im just not doing anything that requires extra horse power, do I force enable Global C states or increase P state or both? (oc using Fixed mode/override)
Or do I need to use offset
DarknessFalls229#2286: seriously no idea, got everything on stock settings as im happy with my performance
Tinybox#9112: uh well @MythologicalZ can you help me out with that?
Tinybox#9112: No, seems forcing on global c states does not reduce voltage during idle, p states seem to cause more fluctuations though vid at least
dassa#5542: Hi my nvme drive is being detected in the uefi
Tinybox#9112: uh ok
dassa#5542: " Isn't"
Bwenfwake#6869: @dassa does your motherboard support booting from NVME? Tell us more info pls
Deleted User#0000: does anyone here fiddle with VR and knows about it technically-wise?
Bwenfwake#6869: I don't but what are you struggling with
Deleted User#0000: reprojection ratio |
Bwenfwake#6869: Probs not my expertise I'm afraid
Deleted User#0000: oh
Deleted User#0000: i mean, some say its gpu wise but a 2070 shouldn't struggle with VR
Bwenfwake#6869: Please explain some more...
Deleted User#0000: so
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/725067585091272796/unknown.png
Deleted User#0000: idk how to specify it properly but may be due to SuperSampling being automatic
Deleted User#0000: but it doesnt makes much sense since it should target 90 frames and not 45
dassa#5542: Yeah I have a Rog b450-i
dassa#5542: Support nvme
"Cobs"#1150: > i mean, some say its gpu wise but a 2070 shouldn't struggle with VR
@Deleted User I use VR with my 1060 without any problems, whats up?
Deleted User#0000: found out it was SuperSampling
Deleted User#0000: it was to 150% per eye on the CV1, doing like above 1400x1600
Deleted User#0000: had set it to 66% which gets close (a little much) after the official res. per eye |
"Cobs"#1150: Ah fair enough
D.D.M#8226: Hey guys so my keyboard is giving me problems in every game i play
D.D.M#8226: I hold w and i go forward a little and stop and so on
D.D.M#8226: Same with asd
D.D.M#8226: Any ideas?
D.D.M#8226: And sometimes it doesn't happen
D.D.M#8226: I also remaped the buttons and same thing
D.D.M#8226: Nvm i plugged the keyboard in another usb port
D.D.M#8226: Now its working
Bertie Kemp#1114: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/725330593214234685/unknown.png
Bertie Kemp#1114: what are these files, why are they so large and are they safe to delete?
Lady Mipha#0611: @Bertie Kemp 1. they system files
2. because one’s for hibernation and the other one is for virtual ram
3. no they are not because they will come back
Bertie Kemp#1114: Cheers, will just leave them, thanks! |
Bertie Kemp#1114: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/725363063154540624/unknown.png
Bertie Kemp#1114: How bad am i currently running my gpu? i have an nvme ssd so i cant do x16, but does the x8 1.1 means its at PCI-E 1?
DarknessFalls229#2286: yes that means its running at PCIe version 1.1, but that might be because its running at idle. if you run a game it probably goes to 3.0 speeds. But still i wouldnt run a GTX 980ti at 8x speeds @Bertie Kemp
Bertie Kemp#1114: ohhh okay cheers, does i7-4790k have enough lanes to run 980 ti at 3.0 and a pcie ssd at 2x
SuSSudio#2688: My HD 6850 & GTX 275 also shows PCIe 1.1 when idle. So yeah that's it
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I don't think it would matter if a GTX 980 ti is on x8 of 3.0 vs x16 of 3.0. My GTX 1080 doesn't care ether way. https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2488-pci-e-3-x8-vs-x16-performance-impact-on-gpus
uoʇsodɾ#2412: A RTX 2080 would care a little and a RTX 2080 ti would care a lot.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdMkpqKFM6A
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8iE_sQBFXk
MarcosCodas#6375: Hey guys: anybody with experience using Dell motherboards with standard ATX power supplies? I'm using the DT board, which fits the pins correctly, but for some reason the thing won't power on. I just get a loop of 3 seconds of power, before it turns off, and then back on again. This is outside of a case, as I don't have a standard Dell case, either. So any boobytraps or anything else that I could be missing, any info is greatly appreciated.
Deleted User#0000: Does anyone know what the max ram speed is supported on the Mobile Intel HM65 Express Chipset.
SuSSudio#2688: 1333mhz
SuSSudio#2688: It looks like an entry level mobile chipset
Lady Mipha#0611: @SuSSudio that’s because it is
Lady Mipha#0611: https://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Intel_(chipsets)/HM65_Express.html |
Deleted User#0000: Yeah, its for a school laptop, thanks
Deleted User#0000: is it common for a r5 3600 to pull 90w?
Deleted User#0000: at highest load
SuSSudio#2688: @Deleted User Sounds pretty normal to me
SuSSudio#2688: stock boost?
Deleted User#0000: yeah
Deleted User#0000: i thought when it says its 65w it would atleast get 60 on load, but 90?
Deleted User#0000: i tried to search but didnt find anything about
SuSSudio#2688: TDP ≠ actual power consumption
mi3night#2562: @Deleted User the tdp is bullshit and here’s why
mi3night#2562: TDP is bullshit because the TDP numbers are made with a calculation that you can easily manipulate to say what you want it to say and with numbers that mean nothing in real life. In addition to that, many people mistake the calculated TDP numbers as power draw because both power draw and the TDP value are specified in Watts, even though the completely artificial TDP value has nothing to do with the power draw of a chip. Hell, the completely artificial calculations for the TDP do not even account for power draw which makes using TDP as a basis for power draw even dumber - JUSTIN
Deleted User#0000: ohh got it
Deleted User#0000: thx though, i really believed in the tdp before
Lumaterian#3557: CPU TDP is a meme
Lumaterian#3557: GPU TDP is fairly accurate |
mi3night#2562: Depends on the aib
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^^^
Lady Mipha#0611: some lie
Deleted User#0000: a report
Deleted User#0000: i was playing some basic 2D games then suddenly the screen goes black and the game crashes
Deleted User#0000: when i try to render Furmark it does the same thing
but after restarting it goes normal and nothing happens
Deleted User#0000: what would that be?
Deleted User#0000: (i tested fm bcuz it was the only thing i could open very quickly to check that)
mi3night#2562: sry to ping u but ur the only tech helper online rn so i have a question.... NZXT H510 vs meshify C? @TheFifthAce
thatubuntuguy#5914: That justin tdp message needs to be pinned asap
MythologicalZ#3752: It is
thatubuntuguy#5914: Move it to top of pins!!
MythologicalZ#3752: Tell techo to do it, don't think he'd mind
thatubuntuguy#5914: Shall |
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Deleted User what are your thermals, what psu are you using?
TheFifthAce#4128: @mi3night meshify
TheFifthAce#4128: or focus g
TheFifthAce#4128: fuck h510
mi3night#2562: ok
StormyGod#9557: guys i need some suggestions I'm getting a new laptop soon for both college purpose and gaming purpose
StormyGod#9557: i would need about like 4-6GB ram mid range graphics like 360p or 480p up and processor such as i5 lowest or i3 highest not too cheap or expensive i would like a laptop that's sort of can run the new games nowadays have also heavy multitasking durable
StormyGod#9557: my budget is limited to 700-710$ any recommendations or suggestions please
TheFifthAce#4128: your needs make no sense compared to the budget
TheFifthAce#4128: you can get something with 16gb ram, a 1080p display, a 4/6 core CPU, and a dedicated GPU/decent IGPU for that money
TheFifthAce#4128: Nitro 5 comes to mind immediately
StormyGod#9557: sorry I'm not much with computers I'm new with them still
StormyGod#9557: thanks for the suggestion tho much appreciated it
Deleted User#0000: > @Deleted User what are your thermals, what psu are you using?
@DarknessFalls229 gpu thermals? |
Lumaterian#3557: @TheFifthAce send him the one you got, that should do it right
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Deleted User cpu thermals, gpu thermals, just to see why your screen would go black, might be gpu drivers aswell
Deleted User#0000: nah, cpu 50c - 60c as normally and gpu 40c - 45c
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah thats fine
Alcyone#2233: TDP is real, it just doesnt represent real life scenarios
Lumaterian#3557: also, it was never meant to represent power draw
Lumaterian#3557: it's Thermal Design Power, it's how much heat it puts out
Alcyone#2233: yeah but thats where they fudge it, intel rates theirs at base clocks
MarcosCodas#6375: Hey guys, so:I got my other dell motherboard and it works! Well, it gets to this thing. Any idea what to put here so I don't fuck up? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/725849621070348319/8ea57ef1-a83f-405f-b833-cb39ad4762ff.jpg
mi3night#2562: @TheFifthAce how’s a dell XPS 15 9570. One of my friend wants a laptop for $1000 for school and light gaming
mi3night#2562: He says he like the look of XPS
mi3night#2562: MacBooks exist for $1k but butterfly keyboard smells
TheFifthAce#4128: I mean
TheFifthAce#4128: h
mi3night#2562: Makes sense |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: macbook repair smells
vegetal#8870: no u
Tinybox#9112: I wanna get corpse party, but it's like :crome:
9 euros for the steam version rn
Tinybox#9112: 9 Euros for an RPGMaker horror game..,
Tinybox#9112: It's got amazing story but
Tinybox#9112: I ain't rdy to pay that for pixel horror.
Tinybox#9112: Even though I love it
MythologicalZ#3752: think youre in the wrong chat
Tinybox#9112: Oh
mi3night#2562: hey can someone help me with display calibrations
mi3night#2562: how do i make my monitor look less yellow via the nvidia calibration app in the control panel
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/726116687849586749/image0.jpg
Alcyone#2233: is there a color temp selection in the monitor menu?
Alcyone#2233: crank that up to make it more blue |
mi3night#2562: nope it's apple monitor
boog#9487: I'm so close to having this 4k tv working https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/726133174140141588/20200624_171248.mp4
boog#9487: My friend brought a main board over for me to test it with and it worked perfectly so I ordered one and I'm just waiting on it
hare_ware#4880: I'm still split on what kind of system I should build. I have a half height Optiplex right now that used to be in a wooden test bench. So that parts I already have to work with are a
- LGA1155 Q67 Motherboard (doesn't support long GPUs)
- i3-2100
- GT610
- RX460
- GTX1660
- Crappy Half Height Case
- 4x 2GB DDR3 sticks
- A slow 250GB 5400 2.5" HDD
- A 100GB 2.5" HDD
- A 250W SFF Optiplex PSU
Here are the 4 options I've thought of so far. In all situations I'd have to buy a new case on top of the price so I can at least use the RX460 again, but if I choose to get a new mobo, then I could also buy a new power supply to use the 1660, buuutttt I probably won't be able to replace the slow harddrives. Every option seems so bad, yet so goood (especially X79). https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/726157671849394216/unknown.png |
MythologicalZ#3752: x79 is a dead platform, get the r3 but dual channel ram
mi3night#2562: Avoid amd a series chip
MythologicalZ#3752: that too
mi3night#2562: Try to get 2x4gb
mi3night#2562: Aim for 3200mhz and cas16
hare_ware#4880: Ah yeah, I found the single stick when I was going to go for an A320 motherboard.
mi3night#2562: I’d recommend scraping a few dollars and get b450
hare_ware#4880: Plus that single stick was super cheap and I could easily upgrade to 32GBs without getting rid of the stick
hare_ware#4880: Those lists are with a B450 motherboard
mi3night#2562: I mean ur cpu memory bandwidth is essentially cut in half with single stick of ram
mi3night#2562: That’s the concern here
mi3night#2562: With a cpu and dgpu this is not as important but Ryzen loves fast memory
hare_ware#4880: The bigger concern for me is that I don't have a decent PC for 3D modeling right now at all. And having decent upgrade path is fairly important.
mi3night#2562: I mean if I were u I’d rather get a r5 1600af which is about $30 more but u get 6c and 12t to work with which is so much better for 3d stuff
mi3night#2562: So basically 4c4t vs 6c 12t |
mi3night#2562: So for $30 more ur looking at a pc that’s more than 2x faster in muticore
hare_ware#4880: But now were talking about $230... that's going to take a really long time to save up for. Which is why I thought X79 might be a good idea since, I'd get 6c12t & 32 GB of RAM now, but I'd be stuck there. On top of that my doesn't benefit too much from a super high core count, I use Blender EEVEE which is realtime. I'd see a bigger jump in perf with the 1660 now that I think about it.
mi3night#2562: I mean x79’s ipc aren’t that good compared to Ryzen
hare_ware#4880: Yeah...
mi3night#2562: Also x79 has zero upgrade path
hare_ware#4880: Wait, what about building the shitty B450 build just for the upgrade path? I'm sure I can find even lower spec parts for even less
MythologicalZ#3752: just make sure to get a 4dimm then
hare_ware#4880: Yeah, the Gigabyte B450M BS3H has 4 dimm slots
MythologicalZ#3752: Yeah its an ok board but try avoid gigabyte if possible for b450
hare_ware#4880: Oof, I don't think I can find a B450 board that cheap then...
Alcyone#2233: all the real low end boards are about the same
hare_ware#4880: Even the VRMs?
mi3night#2562: also if ur going x79 keep in mind that you need a good cooler for it too
Alcyone#2233: yeah, they are all junk
MythologicalZ#3752: tbf you dont need great vrms for the r5s |
MythologicalZ#3752: Im more concerned about giga bios
hare_ware#4880: Oh shoot I'd probably have to buy a new PSU too, I forgot to compare the power draw
Alcyone#2233: asrock b450 with teamed 3 phase is the best vrm on a cheap board, but it wont matter much because it cant oc for shit
mi3night#2562: whats ur current psu rn
mi3night#2562: i forgot
hare_ware#4880: 250W Dell Optiplex SFF
hare_ware#4880: ;-;
mi3night#2562: yeah ...
mi3night#2562: u need a better psu
Alcyone#2233: negative ghostrider
mi3night#2562: idk get a delta unit
mi3night#2562: im not good with psus
mi3night#2562: also one thing i love about asus rog is that it's got great bios
Alcyone#2233: not all rog are created equal
Lumaterian#3557: from my testing at best case, zen+ is 18% faster than sandy bridge, at worst it's almost 40% |
Alcyone#2233: if its not a maximus or crosshair, its just a normal board in a skirt
Lumaterian#3557: also if you pick boards based on brand or series you're in for a bad time
hare_ware#4880: Oh neat, https://www.ebay.com/itm/233601423954 and it's in almost my city. Edit: No PCI power, gross...
Alcyone#2233: impact is good too
hare_ware#4880: > also if you pick boards based on brand or series you're in for a bad time
@Lumaterian Hehe, that one Gigabyte board branded "B350" but it's got an X470 chipset
Lumaterian#3557: I mean, b350 thru to x470 are the same silicon anyway
Lumaterian#3557: but what
hare_ware#4880: According to a Gigabyte rep, it was just cheaper to use X470 on everything, but design the board as if it were B350
Lumaterian#3557: lol
Alcyone#2233: msi did the x470 gaming plus and pro carbon like that too
Alcyone#2233: they are jsut the b450 with an x470 chipset, in fact the b450 versions have better features
hare_ware#4880: Okay, maybe it just makes more sense to stick with my current build, and just get the SSD, PSU, an Xeon 1230 V1, but that just means I can't use the 1660 I didn't actually pay for, it's my brother's he just doesn't need it.
Alcyone#2233: why does it not fit?
hare_ware#4880: It blocks the SATA ports |
Alcyone#2233: could get a riser cable and ziptie the gpu in the case somewhere
hare_ware#4880: That *is* and option...
Alcyone#2233: or 90 degree sata cables if there is enough room under the gpu pcb
hare_ware#4880: There isn't I don't think, and the would limit me to 1 hard drive or SSD
Alcyone#2233: you just need a few mm clearance and to install the sata cables before inserting the gpu https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/726167989308882985/unknown.png
hare_ware#4880: Or I could get one of those PCI-E SATA cards...
D.D.M#8226: You can do that too
D.D.M#8226: But make sure you have space for that too
hare_ware#4880: Or a PCIE SSD, no clue if the board can boot from that.
hare_ware#4880: Oh shoot, the 1660 would block the PCIE 4x slot which I need for WiFi
hare_ware#4880: And the SATA card would go in the 8x slot,
Alcyone#2233: you need to mod bios on intel 6x and 7x chipsets to boot nvme
Alcyone#2233: it will work native as a storage drive though
hare_ware#4880: Yeah... or maybe theres a way around that with GRUB?
Alcyone#2233: i have no idea |
Alcyone#2233: its pretty straightforward to do though, you just copy a couple lines from haswell and paste
D.D.M#8226: What socket board is it?
hare_ware#4880: LGA1155 w/ Q67 chipset
hare_ware#4880: There's a way around that with grub. But modding the BIOS would work better for Windows I bet. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1074098/booting-a-nvme-drive
D.D.M#8226: I know most of he 1155 boards have msata
D.D.M#8226: You could use that if the board has it
hare_ware#4880: If I find solderpads for an mSATA I'm going to have to bitchslap someone at Dell.
D.D.M#8226: Bruh
hare_ware#4880: Because there's a 4th SATA port they didn't bother soldering and parrallel too!
Alcyone#2233: I am using msata ssd for os drive on a z77, it works like it should
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585235845305466908/704373059469049956/IMG_20200424_221754848.jpg
D.D.M#8226: Or a pcie to msata or nvme
hare_ware#4880: Actually these might work https://www.ebay.com/i/223782638653
Gamefreak924#5901: I've got an Asus Z370 TUF motherboard which has 2 M-key M.2 slots, and I'm confused as to whether a wireless card would work in it. Anyone have some knowledge to spare?
Gamefreak924#5901: I sometimes have issues with my USB wireless adapter so I'm looking into getting something that works better and doesn't take up a port |
Alcyone#2233: i think all the m.2 wireless are key E or A
Alcyone#2233: just get a pcie card and smack it in the bottom slot, or the 1x above the gpu
D.D.M#8226: Well best option is to use ethernet but if you cant drag a cable from what i know you can plug it in either slots
Gamefreak924#5901: Ethernet is a no-brainer
Gamefreak924#5901: When you have that ability
Gamefreak924#5901: I don't, which is why I'm looking into wireless options
Gamefreak924#5901: I guess I'll have to just look into standard PCIe cards then?
The United States Air Force#7904: Is it possible to use 2 power supplies on one motherboard
The United States Air Force#7904: I wanna use a dual x58 mobo but my psu has only 1 8 pin
The United States Air Force#7904: So can I use another to power the other
The United States Air Force#7904: Cpu
Lady Mipha#0611: yes but it’s actually not recommended
The United States Air Force#7904: Oh well...
The United States Air Force#7904: Risks?
Lady Mipha#0611: uneven power usage |
The United States Air Force#7904: Oh
Lady Mipha#0611: this is why servers have linked power supplies
Lady Mipha#0611: because voltage may become unstable @The United States Air Force
The United States Air Force#7904: Ah i see
The United States Air Force#7904: Better to use one psu
The United States Air Force#7904: With 2 8 pins
Lady Mipha#0611: yes
The United States Air Force#7904: Wonder if an old dell precision psu will work
The United States Air Force#7904: As those are cheap
The United States Air Force#7904: But then proprietary
The United States Air Force#7904: Connectors are a possible oof
Lumaterian#3557: you should be able to get a splitter to turn your 1 8pin into 2 with some molex
Lumaterian#3557: can also try plugging 1 4 into each
Lumaterian#3557: that sometimes works
D.D.M#8226: Well you could use a second psu to power a graphics card for example |
D.D.M#8226: You could use a 6 or 8 pin connector from another psu thats connected to another mobo
D.D.M#8226: And power both pcs at the same time
D.D.M#8226: I wouldn't do it
Alcyone#2233: they are talling about 2x 8 pin eps on a dual socket mobo i think
GabrielAC130#2331: anyone here that has experience with phones because i have been thinking about buying one of the two A series samsung galaxy phones the A31 and the A51 but i have not come to a conclusion on which one to buy could any phone expert help me choose one?
GabrielAC130#2331: both phones can come with 6gb ram but the a51 can come with 8 gb ram version
Racey#8574: the A51 is barely any better over the A31
Racey#8574: all Galaxy A phones get only a tiny bit better as you move up the line
Racey#8574: the A31 only comes with 6 GB of RAM if you purchase the 128 GB variant
D.D.M#8226: Well i dont own one but i would recommend you the A51
D.D.M#8226: A31 is sorta the same but smaller screen
D.D.M#8226: So the only thing you should do is think if you want something smaller or slightly bigger
GabrielAC130#2331: yeahe but the camera on the A31 is not as good as the one on the A51
Racey#8574: of course it wouldn't be as good as on the A51
GabrielAC130#2331: And btw u can uppgrade upp to 8gb of ram on the a51 |
GabrielAC130#2331: but that might be dumb because it would suck the life of the battery
GabrielAC130#2331: and one more downside to the A31 is that it hasnt started to sell in my country
GabrielAC130#2331: so i would have to wait 1-3 months
GabrielAC130#2331: for it to release and for the prices to drop down a bit
Racey#8574: more RAM doesn't mean faster battery life drain
Racey#8574: RAM has the least impact on battery drain
GabrielAC130#2331: may i ask what phone u currently own?
Racey#8574: none
Racey#8574: mine broke
GabrielAC130#2331: damn
GabrielAC130#2331: but the problem with the a51 is that it is not in big scale production and for that reason they are not pushing the 6 and 8 gb ram version
mi3night#2562: @GabrielAC130 get a refirb s8 or s9 unit?
GabrielAC130#2331: refurbished?
GabrielAC130#2331: @mi3night ?
mi3night#2562: Yes |
GabrielAC130#2331: whats the diffrence between a refurbished one and a normal one
mi3night#2562: The refurbished phone is used but they made it look like new. A normal one is new
mi3night#2562: Btw I currently own a refirb or used iPhone 7 soooo
GabrielAC130#2331: se if i buy a refurbished one i might not like it and might even cost more than a A51 thats brand new from samsung
mi3night#2562: Wdym
mi3night#2562: What country ur in
GabrielAC130#2331: i live in sweden
mi3night#2562: Oh
mi3night#2562: Yeah get a a51 ur used market don’t have that kinda s8 deals
GabrielAC130#2331: i found this one tho https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-S9-Plus-SM-G965U-64-GB-GSM-Factory-Unlocked/383600612587?epid=13025496093&hash=item595060d4eb:g:xvYAAOSwbwZe79MD
GabrielAC130#2331: pretty cheap says its brand new but i should probably not trust it the price is just too good to be true
mi3night#2562: Does That ship to ur country
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/726506546431000616/image0.png
GabrielAC130#2331: yeah but i might have to pay like 50$fee because it entered sweden from us
mi3night#2562: Price is normal |
GabrielAC130#2331: US
GabrielAC130#2331: damn u know in sweden the price is 600$ for a brand new one
mi3night#2562: Cuz vat or import
mi3night#2562: Yeah ik
GabrielAC130#2331: damn its good to live in the US
GabrielAC130#2331: or it seems like that
GabrielAC130#2331: Damn samsung even stopped selling the S9
GabrielAC130#2331: @mi3night can u check how much a samsung galaxy s10e cost in the US
Deleted User#0000: Not a tech question but thanks to everyone that helped me pick parts for my first build
Specs:
Intel core i3 3220 3.3ghz - taken out of a free Dell Optiplex
8gb 1600mhz - £22
Gtx 780 Windforce OC edition - £33
Evga 600w power supply - £50
Corsair 110R case - £50 |
Crucial bx 500 240gb Ssd - £35
Total: £190 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/726518249977544754/20200627_201846.jpg
Deleted User#0000: nice
TheFifthAce#4128: why did you buy an evga power supply if youre in the UK
mi3night#2562: @Deleted User nice pc but I’d suggest reselling that 780 and get a RX570 or 580 for the same price because Kepler drivers are a big headache in modern games and I’ve been through that. You don’t have though
Alcyone#2233: I dont think you can get a 570 for $40
Critical#7335: @Alcyone nowadays you'd find a 570 for $120
Critical#7335: curse you coronavirus!
Alcyone#2233: they were about $60-$80 for 4gb models when people were dumping them after etherium went bust
Alcyone#2233: I didnt figure they would get any cheaper as the supply decreased
Alcyone#2233: https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Frostbite-Thermal-Grease-400-TG-TM01-BR/dp/B087T4J6X4/ref=sr_1_16
evga has a new paste
Alcyone#2233: hardwareasylum is the only one thats reviewed it so far but if this is correct that puts it on par with kryonaut https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/726651687237976105/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: https://www.hardwareasylum.com/reviews/cooling/evga_frostbite2 |
Lumaterian#3557: that's actually pretty *cool*
thanosks#3929: okay
thanosks#3929: can a 1050 run a 1080p 75hz monitor
thanosks#3929: just to make sure and not waste money
thanosks#3929: also how can I update bios in a mb to support zen 2?
thanosks#3929: @Tech Helper
TheGeekster#8508: Are you already running the motherboard with a CPU? If so, follow manufacturers manual on how to update the bios. If you're buying new, contact the seller/shop to check if it's been upgraded
thanosks#3929: hmmm
thanosks#3929: okay
D.D.M#8226: For those kind of specs its a well balanced pc, the i3 will be a slight bottleneck if you pair it with an rx
thanosks#3929: none replied on how well it will run
thanosks#3929: ;-;
thanosks#3929: ig it will be ok
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah it can run a 75hz monitor?
MythologicalZ#3752: idk what youre asking though |
MythologicalZ#3752: some games wont be 75+ fps
D.D.M#8226: Some could give you 60+
KingGaurav#4771: guys, has anyone here faced this error while trying to unlock the bootloader of a Windows Phone using Windows Phone internals? So when I select the folder with the SLB3 engineering file and the FFU file to unlock my Lumia 525, it returns this error https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/726754857561751552/unknown.png
KingGaurav#4771: When I click "Unlock" my phone reboots into flash mode again, and then I get that error in WP internals
TheFifthAce#4128: > can a 1050 run a 1080p 75hz monitor
@thanosks dont buy a 1050
TheFifthAce#4128: rx 570 is cheaper and twice as fast
KingGaurav#4771: ^ or get a 1650 super if you are willing to spend more
SuSSudio#2688: I think he got the 1050 already...
thanosks#3929: @TheFifthAce i have a 1050
thanosks#3929: duh
thanosks#3929: 2 years old
thanosks#3929: now i wouldn't buy one
D.D.M#8226: Well it still sorta does do a good job in more moderner games
thanosks#3929: well im updating bios atm |
KingGaurav#4771: It should do 1080p at 75 fps depending on your settings for each title and the rest of your pc
thanosks#3929: medium
thanosks#3929: ill buy a 3600 too
thanosks#3929: because the poor 1200 i have rn has 100% usage in ganes
TheFifthAce#4128: why ask how it runs if you already own it
thanosks#3929: because ill buy a monitor
thanosks#3929: and just to be sure i asked
TheFifthAce#4128: do you not have a monitor
thanosks#3929: i have a 720p
KingGaurav#4771: For me, the 1200 is also the bottleneck in my pc. I have a 1050ti though not 1050
SuSSudio#2688: Looks like he's coming from 60hz monitor
TheFifthAce#4128: @KingGaurav 1200 shouldn't be bottlenecking a 1050 ti
thanosks#3929: okay how do i check zen compatibility
thanosks#3929: in a mb
TheFifthAce#4128: @thanosks what is mobo |
KingGaurav#4771: but actually most of the games I play are mostly cpu bound
thanosks#3929: i just updated bios
thanosks#3929: b350m-k
KingGaurav#4771: which generation board and what model of board are we talking about
KingGaurav#4771: is that an ASUS prime board?
thanosks#3929: asus
thanosks#3929: prime
KingGaurav#4771: because I do recall there being a B350M-K by ASUS when I built my pc. I'm pretty sure it should have support
thanosks#3929: its zen 1
thanosks#3929: i did bios update
thanosks#3929: and i think it should support zen 2
thanosks#3929: but is there a way to check
thanosks#3929: ?
thanosks#3929: hmmm
thanosks#3929: its acting a bit weird |
thanosks#3929: is it because its first boot after updating
thanosks#3929: its open tho so ig everything is fine ovo
KingGaurav#4771: for some reason ASUS's download site isnt loading for me, so I cannot check
SuSSudio#2688: @thanosks Usually you'd just straight off swap the cpu & be fine
SuSSudio#2688: which version did you flashed?
thanosks#3929: its the zen support tho
thanosks#3929: the latest
thanosks#3929: 52222 something
thanosks#3929: wait
thanosks#3929: ill open the discord on pc
SuSSudio#2688: Yeah you're good, mobo started supporting 3rd gen (Zen 2) since BIOS ver 4801
thanosks#3929: cool
thanosks#3929: okay off to order then
thanosks#3929: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/726759790939996211/Screenshot_2020-06-28-14-23-11-054_com.niobiumlabs.android.apps.skroutz.png
thanosks#3929: ima get this |
scelli#0001: is dxtory any good?
scelli#0001: my friend has an aio pc and wants to record stuff with a lightweight screen recorder
BigPierogi#3368: @scelli hamish mentioned it in the free software video
Muse#0557: Obs isn't that demanding
Clode#2428: maybe this is the wrong chat
Clode#2428: but i couldnt find aswers on google
Clode#2428: is there any way to increase the audio input on a phone?
Racey#8574: turn up the volume
Clode#2428: not that audio
Clode#2428: like your own
Racey#8574: turn up your mic volume
Racey#8574: what are you using
Clode#2428: no
Clode#2428: i was talking about the audio you make
Racey#8574: I know |
Racey#8574: > turn up your mic volume
Racey#8574: > what are you using
Clode#2428: oh
Clode#2428: s9
Clode#2428: How do you do that?
Racey#8574: what app are you using
Clode#2428: whatsapp
Clode#2428: but in general
Clode#2428: is there any way to do it?
Racey#8574: no
Racey#8574: It's an OS issue
Clode#2428: ok
Clode#2428: thank you
Racey#8574: don't worry both Android and iOS have it the app just needs to let you change it
Clode#2428: what? |
Racey#8574: like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/726957870003912774/Screenshot_3446.png
Clode#2428: yeah
Clode#2428: but in general
wiryfuture🦀#1706: someone send rtx 2030 pcie-1x meme please I want to see it
Muse#0557: A microphone picks up sound
Muse#0557: It's on the other person how loud it is
Muse#0557: There isn't a good way to change it 9/10
Deleted User#0000: which budget 2TB hardrive would you recommend to me?
Deleted User#0000: I'm not looking for something blasting fast, it just needs to be reliable
Deleted User#0000: I have a newer Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 2TB drive, it's worked just fine for me.
Deleted User#0000: Can't remember how much it costed but I want to say around the $50 range.
Deleted User#0000: I see, i've had bad experiences with segate drives tbh... but if the newer ones are decent I guess I'll get one
Deleted User#0000: if it's dead in a few years tho, I'm not gonna trust the brand ever again lmao
mi3night#2562: @Deleted User u still here?
mi3night#2562: Get wd red |
BigPierogi#3368: i thought wd got in some trouble with their red drives
mi3night#2562: Naming schemes
Deleted User#0000: yee I was thinking the same thing
mi3night#2562: But it’s nothing that impacts performance
mi3night#2562: Some wd red won’t work in certain servers
mi3night#2562: What’s ur budget for a hdd?
Deleted User#0000: about 60 dollars
Deleted User#0000: I can't get stuff from the us unfortunately I live in a pretty remote zone outside from there, that's why I said that my budget it's "about" 60 dollars, sorry I should've said that earlier
mi3night#2562: Where do u live btw?
Deleted User#0000: Chile
Deleted User#0000: yeah, prices are horrible here, I'm just looking for a recommended product, an hdd that I can get on amazon or something
mi3night#2562: Hm
mi3night#2562: Look for wd re drives
Deleted User#0000: I wish HDD's weren't so prone to vibrations or shocks in movement
vegetal#8870: is it bad to run my macbook fan at full blast |
DarknessFalls229#2286: how else do you cool it
vegetal#8870: but like
vegetal#8870: all the time?
scelli#0001: @Deleted User good news! there is a device just like a hard drive that isnt prone to breaking from vibrations or shocks! its called an ssd!
Deleted User#0000: WHOA
Deleted User#0000: I NEVER KNEW
Deleted User#0000: ITS NOT LIKE I HAVE ONE IN MY DESKTOP
BigPierogi#3368: :Bean:
Deleted User#0000: it's not like I have 3 of them already lmao, I just need something larger for my games
mi3night#2562: @vegetal repaste?
mi3night#2562: It shouldn’t run at full blast all the time
Alcyone#2233: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yrF4ofFVkQ
mi3night#2562: Hey that was in my recommended
Alcyone#2233: so many good ps2 games
Alcyone#2233: gonna be awesome when they crack it like the dreamcast |
mi3night#2562: I mean emulation hours
Alcyone#2233: i like playing on hardware
mi3night#2562: Tbh tbh
mi3night#2562: I can get a ps2 at goodwill for like $3 but idk
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727183014383058996/image0.png
Alcyone#2233: pros just use a piece of tinfoil
mi3night#2562: Fax
Andie Daysinton#6666: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727194824658124850/unknown.png
Muse#0557: @Andie Daysinton So what's your issue with my improvements
Andie Daysinton#6666: its that this mobo has what i need
Muse#0557: Which is?
mi3night#2562: why b550?
Muse#0557: Midnight
Muse#0557: Shh
mi3night#2562: ok |
BigPierogi#3368: mdinight you are banned from here
BigPierogi#3368: out
Muse#0557: I'm confused enough trying to keep up
Andie Daysinton#6666: because i can't afford an X570
mi3night#2562: @BigPierogi shut
mi3night#2562: why not b450? @Andie Daysinton
Muse#0557: Good luck finding a B450 ITX in stock
Andie Daysinton#6666: Exactly
mi3night#2562: right
mi3night#2562: it's itx
mi3night#2562: fuck me i just realized that
Muse#0557: The main thing is that he wants to get a apu
Muse#0557: Because he doesn't want to use dp to hdmi cables
Muse#0557: On his 1060
mi3night#2562: adapter? |
mi3night#2562: you can always buy a adapter if u dont wanna use those ports?
Muse#0557: That's what we all said
Andie Daysinton#6666: i want multi monitors
mi3night#2562: yes use a adapter
Muse#0557: A 1060 can do multiple monitors
BigPierogi#3368: ^
Andie Daysinton#6666: and hook up to Tv
Muse#0557: Just get DP to hdmi adapters
Andie Daysinton#6666: and so on
BigPierogi#3368: i use multiple monitors on 1060
Muse#0557: If your monitors don't have dp
Muse#0557: Just get hdmi adapters
mi3night#2562: you can get a dp to hdmi adapter for like $5 max
Andie Daysinton#6666: they are not affordable on my salary
mi3night#2562: it's $5 |
Andie Daysinton#6666: the screens
mi3night#2562: oh?
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727195888849780826/61w2UtfXiEL._AC_SL1500_.jpg
Andie Daysinton#6666: not the Adapters
Muse#0557: They are like 5 bucks
Andie Daysinton#6666: i know
Muse#0557: Then buy them
mi3night#2562: the screens?
mi3night#2562: whatcha mean by that
Andie Daysinton#6666: The DP Screens
BigPierogi#3368: what?
mi3night#2562: you dont need a DP screen
Muse#0557: Apparently screens with display port are expensive
Andie Daysinton#6666: are not Affordable
Andie Daysinton#6666: YUP |
mi3night#2562: you dont need a screen with DP @Andie Daysinton
Muse#0557: Get a screen with hdmi
mi3night#2562: ur HDMI screens are fine just get a $5 cable
Muse#0557: Plug the display port end into the 1060
Muse#0557: And hdmi end into the screen
mi3night#2562: ^^
Andie Daysinton#6666: how much quality do you lose
Muse#0557: None
mi3night#2562: nothing
mi3night#2562: it's digital signal you dont lose anything
Andie Daysinton#6666: Most ITX have Monitor ports on them
mi3night#2562: u mean motherboards
Muse#0557: Most motherboards do
Muse#0557: But so what
Muse#0557: The apu costs more money than a 2600 |
Muse#0557: And performs worse
Andie Daysinton#6666: and the argument that i run into with ITX is it just needs a gpu and then the ones on the Mobo will work
mi3night#2562: if r5 1600af exist in ur country id get that and a rx 470/480, 570/580 card
Muse#0557: Already has a 1060
Andie Daysinton#6666: some say it does and doesnt
mi3night#2562: oh
Muse#0557: Darth
mi3night#2562: why not use ur 1060
Muse#0557: I have no clue what you just said
mi3night#2562: same
Muse#0557: It doesn't make sense
mi3night#2562: im confused lol
Muse#0557: Let him type midnight
Andie Daysinton#6666: Sorry English is not my first lang
mi3night#2562: if ur using ur r5 3400g apu ur downgrading to a gt1030 perf |
Muse#0557: Lemme explain
Muse#0557: So we are all on the same page
Muse#0557: He wants to use multiple monitors and they are all only have hdmi... He is going with an ITX system and considered using 3400g and the io on the motherboard to output to the other monitors... However he doesn't need to use the apu since he can use adapters with his 1060 which means he can get a better value cpu like a 1600af or 2600
Andie Daysinton#6666: Yes
mi3night#2562: also r5 3400g is about almost 2x weaker than r5 1600af at multicore tasks
Andie Daysinton#6666: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727197465757089872/unknown.png
Muse#0557: So just swap the 3400g to a 1600 af or 2600
Muse#0557: And buy hdmi to dp adapters
Muse#0557: End of
mi3night#2562: looks like he wants a r5 3600 @Muse
Andie Daysinton#6666: it was only £20 more
Muse#0557: 3600 is also fine
mi3night#2562: jesus $180 for a 3400g
Muse#0557: Also 32gb of ram
Muse#0557: Is a mistake |
Muse#0557: Complete overkill
mi3night#2562: yikes meter if u actually got a 3400g
mi3night#2562: @Andie Daysinton what do u do on ur pc that u need 32gb?
Muse#0557: I'd assume nothing
Alcyone#2233: depends on pricing i say
Andie Daysinton#6666: i had 32gb in my old am3+ setup
mi3night#2562: makes sense
Muse#0557: 32gb is overkill
Alcyone#2233: since itx only has 2 dimm slots it could be worth it
Muse#0557: Also the price of ram there
Muse#0557: Are you going to be doing anything more than gaming?
mi3night#2562: i had 32gb in my haswell build and i didnt feel like downgrading to 16gb in my ryzen build but i live in the US and prices are like cheap so yeah
mi3night#2562: i feel u
Andie Daysinton#6666: i play fallout new vegas and skyrim with 200+ mods and yes i do video editing
mi3night#2562: whats ur ram usage mind if i ask |
Alcyone#2233: ive ran 16 since my final 1155 days and been fine
mi3night#2562: i got 32 cuz goodwill went like eh there u go
Muse#0557: 16gb seems fine for modded 2011 and 2015 games
Andie Daysinton#6666: and prices are insane
Alcyone#2233: beamng mods eat up the ram though
Andie Daysinton#6666: i know XD
Muse#0557: I doubt 32gb is needed
Muse#0557: The 1060 will give in first
Muse#0557: Before 16gb
mi3night#2562: yeah
Muse#0557: Also
Muse#0557: That anti virus
Andie Daysinton#6666: But trust me if i imported the stuff it would cost me more
Muse#0557: Is straight up pointless
mi3night#2562: windows defender exists |
Andie Daysinton#6666: i don't want it but they are handing it out free
Muse#0557: Nobody said to import fella
mi3night#2562: oh
Alcyone#2233: anti virus just eats resources and annoys you
Muse#0557: We said to get it 16gb
Muse#0557: I would go for 16gb and drop the antivirus
mi3night#2562: we recommend 16gb but ur money is urs
mi3night#2562: same
Alcyone#2233: i would get a faster 16gb kit as well
Alcyone#2233: r3k likes 3600mhz
Muse#0557: 3200mhz isn't bad
mi3night#2562: 3200mhz cas14 be like
mi3night#2562: b die
Andie Daysinton#6666: changed it to 16
mi3night#2562: fair |
Muse#0557: Personally I would sell the 1060 and put the money saved from the 16gb and antivirus towards a 1660 super or something
Alcyone#2233: bdie good but it doesnt really matter much unless you are gonna manually tune it
Budget#8265: Isnt New Vegas RAM Usage heavily capped out
mi3night#2562: @Alcyone u know me
Budget#8265: Like the engine will not scale to 32GB
Muse#0557: I think even with mods it's 4gb max
Budget#8265: Same for Skyrim SE, itll struggle to reach that before itll crash
Budget#8265: Nah you can force NV over 4GB
mi3night#2562: b die goes brrrr 3733mhz @Alcyone
Muse#0557: Still don't think he needs 32gb for modded skyrim
Alcyone#2233: i have the shittiest bdie ive ever seen
mi3night#2562: 32gb is for future proofing but get 2x8gb first then get another 2x8 later
Alcyone#2233: does 3466 cl16 max on z370
mi3night#2562: thats my suggestion
Alcyone#2233: you cant do that with itx tho |
mi3night#2562: oh yeah
mi3night#2562: 2 dimm
mi3night#2562: eh
Muse#0557: I think 16gb will be fine for his use case for a while
Muse#0557: I still get by with 8
Muse#0557: So
mi3night#2562: down the line sell ur 2x8gb and get 2x16
Muse#0557: :/
Alcyone#2233: i am on 8 with this 1155, but my 1151 has 16 gigaboobs
Andie Daysinton#6666: gimme a sec
mi3night#2562: im on 16 back in the 3770k days
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727199858729156681/IMG_2914.JPG
mi3night#2562: memories
Muse#0557: Probably gonna be running 12gb ngl
mi3night#2562: before when i tune the ram to 1600mhz and 4.5ghz 3770k |
Muse#0557: With a 3570k
BigPierogi#3368: when i still had my 4350 is ran 16gb
BigPierogi#3368: well i still have it
Alcyone#2233: w10 memory usage go brrrr https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727200022407675914/unknown.png
BigPierogi#3368: i just dont use it
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727200119585243216/Annotation_2020-06-29_093326.png
Alcyone#2233: I have a stripped 7 os for benching, its like 700mb at idle
BigPierogi#3368: gentoo or bust
mi3night#2562: no
mi3night#2562: macOS
BigPierogi#3368: no
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/386696225740685323/726621134727938098/20200627_221011.jpg
ez world records with gigabutt :DontgetDoneGetDom:
Andie Daysinton#6666: sorry had an important phonecall |
Andie Daysinton#6666: @Muse what i mean with that is if you have a gpu Connected to your ITX You can use the ports on the mobo and some say you can't and since its so argued
Andie Daysinton#6666: i went with an APU to be on the safe side
Andie Daysinton#6666: @Budget as far as i Know Not with all My Mods and tweaks To it ?
Budget#8265: Got a figure on what its using ?
Budget#8265: From Task Manager
Andie Daysinton#6666: i had the 4gb cap removed
Budget#8265: There is a *64Bit* Mod
Budget#8265: But it is instable
Budget#8265: The engine can only scale so far
Andie Daysinton#6666: i know but i know a lot of the jankiness of standard New vegas went away with a lot of my mods
Budget#8265: So whats your RAM usage at?
Muse#0557: Darth
Muse#0557: I have no clue what you said to me
Muse#0557: What I do know is that all ports on a 1060 work fine
Muse#0557: Don't use the ports on the motherboard |
Muse#0557: You don't need to we have been over this
Muse#0557: Please don't go back to square 1
Andie Daysinton#6666: i rephrased the question 3 times and you still don't understand what i am asking
Muse#0557: I do
Muse#0557: But I have given you a solution and yet you still consider the inferior option
Muse#0557: There isn't anything I can say
Budget#8265: Whats the problem
Budget#8265: Like break it down for me
Muse#0557: He wants to use a 3400g in tandem with his gtx 1060 for multiple displays instead of getting dp to hdmi adapters even though the 3400g is worse value than the other cpu options
Andie Daysinton#6666: not what i wanted anymore
Budget#8265: Driver issues aswell Nvidia does not like to play nice with AMD when it comes to dual displays
Budget#8265: I have tried
Andie Daysinton#6666: i was just getting confused over 5 different saying by having a GPU on your itx you could use the ports on the mobo with no need for a APU and at the same time other threads Say no
Muse#0557: You need an apu to use the hdmi port on your motherboard
Muse#0557: But there is no need if your 1060 already outputs to all your monitors |
Muse#0557: 👍
Budget#8265: Most GPUs from the last 10 years can easily do 3 monitors
Budget#8265: Im on a 5 year old GPU using 1440p 160Hz, 1080p 75Hz, and 1050p 75Hz
Andie Daysinton#6666: then their info has confuddled me so much i wasn't explaining it right
Muse#0557: I think I've made it pretty cohesive now I don't have 3 people talking over me with gaps in information
Andie Daysinton#6666: tru
Andie Daysinton#6666: i just want an ITX Build for
1. i practically live in a box
Andie Daysinton#6666: 2. I need space
Andie Daysinton#6666: 3. I want to challenge myself a bit
Budget#8265: I live in a shed with very little space
Budget#8265: ITX Costs right now are insane
Budget#8265: Personally you wont get anything good value in that form factor right now
Budget#8265: Id reccomend MATX as a good compromise but your call
Muse#0557: I would too but if you're really dead set you'll still be fine but shooting yourself in the foot a little |
Andie Daysinton#6666: i have had too many issues with that form factor
Muse#0557: ITX isn't going to be any better
Muse#0557: It's by far the hardest form factor to work with
Andie Daysinton#6666: MATX is warranty Tug of War for me
Muse#0557: That's more down to manufacturer than form factor
Andie Daysinton#6666: i prefer ATX's But my home size doesn't allow too much waste of Air or cubic space sadly
Budget#8265: What country are we talking about if Warranty is an issue
Muse#0557: Matx isn't that much bigger
Budget#8265: MATX Is tiny
Budget#8265: and still much more produced
Muse#0557: ITX cases never use space efficiently anyway
Budget#8265: ITX Is a very "niche" Market and mobos alone are costly
BigPierogi#3368: @Muse there probably are a few but their expensive
Andie Daysinton#6666: Denmark and a lot of companies tries to screw danes over on warranty claims and RMAs
Muse#0557: Don't see what Matx has to do with that |
Budget#8265: Denmark is EU isnt it
Budget#8265: Mandatory 2 YEar warranty
Budget#8265: Same as the UK
Budget#8265: But yeah mate Budget wise go MATX
Budget#8265: Your call at the endof the day
Andie Daysinton#6666: 1st year they have to prove its your fault 2nd year you have to prove its factorys fault
Budget#8265: Nope
Muse#0557: I doubt it's that bad
BigPierogi#3368: what does this have to do with matx
Budget#8265: EU law is the same across all countries
Budget#8265: if it breaks it breaks
Budget#8265: Regardless of product
Budget#8265: Buy through Amazon or Via a Big Company if you have issues with Warranty
Budget#8265: They wont try to skirt the law
Muse#0557: Also if you're worried about warranty spending more isn't going to calm your worries |
Andie Daysinton#6666: well
Andie Daysinton#6666: I How much more space does Matx take up
Budget#8265: 3 PCI lanes extra in size
Budget#8265: Thats about it
Muse#0557: Like a inch and a half
Budget#8265: My PC is Full ATX and it doesnt even take up that much space
Budget#8265: Its all down to what case you pick
Andie Daysinton#6666: so from 1 Lane to 4 right ?
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727214245087019118/mUQ6STtdHLedxad2zpUiiA-480-80.jpg
Muse#0557: This is the difference between nzxt ITX and Matx
Muse#0557: So....
Budget#8265: ^ That sums it up better than I Can really
Budget#8265: Hardly much of a space increase
BigPierogi#3368: plus
BigPierogi#3368: more pcie |
Muse#0557: I have no idea why the h200 line is more expensive than the h400
Muse#0557: It has less material in it
BigPierogi#3368: becuase
BigPierogi#3368: uh
Muse#0557: Good assessment
BigPierogi#3368: money
Muse#0557: Darth's Rig-
Ryzen 5 3600
16GB 2x8GB 3200mhz+
Solid B550 Matx Board
GTX 1060
1TB Game HDD
240GB Boot and Application SSD
Matx Case that isn't a safety hazard |
450-650w 80+ Bronze Evga/Corsair/Be Quiet/CM psu
Muse#0557: Off the top of my head
Andie Daysinton#6666: i have hdds and GPU and 750w PSU from my AM3+
Andie Daysinton#6666: matx tower like this out there https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727216086071640134/unknown.png
Andie Daysinton#6666: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727216171220467722/unknown.png
Muse#0557: That looks no bigger than ITX lmao
Muse#0557: See
Budget#8265: Those take up a suprising amount of space
Budget#8265: Better to take eight over width
Budget#8265: Those things are wider than my Full ATX system 🙏
Muse#0557: Are you sure that's matx
Andie Daysinton#6666: no i was asking if there was towere like this for Matx
Muse#0557: It's only got 2 pcie cut outs
Muse#0557: Ahh
Muse#0557: Umm they aren't space efficient |
Budget#8265: If space is an issue just get a standard slim looking MATX Tower
Budget#8265: Corsair have a good chunk of them
Budget#8265: Not too expensive either
Budget#8265: Check if you have Amazon Warehouse in your country and search MATX
Andie Daysinton#6666: we don't
Muse#0557: There's got to be places to buy cases it's not like you're in a developing country
Andie Daysinton#6666: yes online and that where i found them
Muse#0557: Buy a standard slim matx tower
Muse#0557: You'd be saving close to 100 euro between the motherboard and case
Andie Daysinton#6666: well i found the MATX Version of that tower and its €80
Budget#8265: I can nae imagine spending moe than 50-60 on a case
Budget#8265: It just isnt worth it when it comes to the budget
Muse#0557: The most I'd spend is on a meshify c
Andie Daysinton#6666: i live in a business premise
Andie Daysinton#6666: Litterally living in my Office |
Muse#0557: Meaning?
Muse#0557: Please don't tell me you're worried about the social status of a metal box
Andie Daysinton#6666: The reason i have size requirements
Muse#0557: We know this
Budget#8265: Fella I doubt you are lacking vertical space
Budget#8265: Unless this is a very literal hobbit hole a bigger case is only going to take slightly more vertical space
Budget#8265: Which shouldnt be a problem
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727219700756512958/mUQ6STtdHLedxad2zpUiiA-480-80.jpg
Budget#8265: I literally have my full ATX PC stuck behind a monitor
Muse#0557: There is no difference here other than an inch on the front
Muse#0557: And height
Andie Daysinton#6666: what NZXT is that
Andie Daysinton#6666: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727224134462996550/unknown.png
Andie Daysinton#6666: @Muse Better ?
Muse#0557: H210i is ITX |
Muse#0557: Also overpriced
Andie Daysinton#6666: it said matx on th page
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727226181438668851/Screenshot_20200629_191706_com.android.chrome.png
Andie Daysinton#6666: yes but i added it from matx filter search on their site
Andie Daysinton#6666: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727226664798519357/unknown.png
Andie Daysinton#6666: Changed it
Alcyone#2233: can save like $50 over an nzxt if you get a cooler master nr400
Andie Daysinton#6666: i changed it
Andie Daysinton#6666: already so that nzxt
Alcyone#2233: https://www.proshop.dk/Kabinet/Cooler-Master-MasterBox-NR400-Kabinet-Miditower-Sort/2773714
these cases perform right at the top tier when you add fans
Alcyone#2233: the v21 has good temps too, the plastic window just scratches easily
Andie Daysinton#6666: Yeah well that will be least of worries
Andie Daysinton#6666: and the one you show there has just as much glass
Alcyone#2233: the v21 is acrylic, the nr400 is glass, which doesnt scratch easily |
mi3night#2562: @Andie Daysinton i have better experience with cooler master than TT case
mi3night#2562: so yeah
mi3night#2562: id get coolermaster any time
Andie Daysinton#6666: glass O_O
Andie Daysinton#6666: Seriously
mi3night#2562: i usually dont like glass because i hit my chair and other things right at my computer on the floor all the time
mi3night#2562: but it's up to u
Muse#0557: We're still going?
Andie Daysinton#6666: no
Andie Daysinton#6666: i found everything you recommended
Andie Daysinton#6666: bigger mobo
Andie Daysinton#6666: Tower and everything 🙂
Andie Daysinton#6666: @Muse so i am not 🙂
Andie Daysinton#6666: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727239663584018512/unknown.png
Andie Daysinton#6666: @Muse just give a final look over |
Muse#0557: A. That case really isn't that small
Muse#0557: If you're worried about space
Muse#0557: B. Antiviruses are completely redundant now
Muse#0557: Especially paid ones
Alcyone#2233: its a free add on with the cpu i think
Alcyone#2233: i checked out the site to see if there was any deals
Andie Daysinton#6666: It adds it on its own
Andie Daysinton#6666: as it comes with the CPU
Andie Daysinton#6666: i have asked the store how to not get that offer
Andie Daysinton#6666: i have had bullguard
Andie Daysinton#6666: it is overzealous
Andie Daysinton#6666: Called Steam Virus
Andie Daysinton#6666: XD
mi3night#2562: idk but some of my old thermaltake cases are build like trash
Deleted User#0000: my pc suddenly stopped giving audio output through mobo's onboard audio |
Deleted User#0000: tried to reinstall driver but no luck.
Deleted User#0000: even tested another one
Deleted User#0000: o k
Deleted User#0000: just found out it was the headset
Deleted User#0000: not the pc
Andie Daysinton#6666: why blame your mobo
Andie Daysinton#6666: as the first
thanosks#3929: ok i need hel
thanosks#3929: so
thanosks#3929: i installed my new cpu
thanosks#3929: and it opened up fine
thanosks#3929: then i tried to install drivers because it didn't open a game
thanosks#3929: so as i tried to update them the screen went black
thanosks#3929: and then the windows bar showed up
thanosks#3929: idfk what happened |
thanosks#3929: I need help
thanosks#3929: @Tech Helper
Budget#8265: CPUs dont have drivers
Budget#8265: They have microcode in the BIOS
Budget#8265: So you might have installed either a chipset driver? or a Virus
thanosks#3929: hmmm?
thanosks#3929: really
thanosks#3929: pretty sure there are chipset drivers or something
Budget#8265: Well what drivers did you install
thanosks#3929: nothing for now
Budget#8265: But you just said you installed one
thanosks#3929: no not that
thanosks#3929: so
Budget#8265: Can you please type it out as 1 message
thanosks#3929: my brother found in a cite on how to update drivers |
thanosks#3929: so he installed easy drivers or something
thanosks#3929: lol
thanosks#3929: it works fine now
thanosks#3929: i uninstalled that
Budget#8265: So whats the problem?
Budget#8265: If it works fine
thanosks#3929: so now Fortnite doesn't open
thanosks#3929: and idk why
Budget#8265: What are your specs
TheGeekster#8508: Did you download FreeForniteBux.exe?
BrownTown#4082: where did you download fortnite from
thanosks#3929: it says dx11 something
thanosks#3929: it was playable before
Budget#8265: Fortnite required DX11 now, its why I dont benchmark it
Budget#8265: What are your specs |
thanosks#3929: r5 3600
thanosks#3929: just got it
Budget#8265: and your GPU?
thanosks#3929: 1050 2gb
thanosks#3929: 8gb ram
Budget#8265: Okay if you can, uninstall your drivers using DIsplay Driver Uninstaller
Budget#8265: and download the latest Nvidia Drivers from their website
Budget#8265: If this sounds complicated to you please dont do it, as it sounds like you dont have a huge grasp on computers
thanosks#3929: oh now it frekin works
thanosks#3929: wtf
Budget#8265: Okay fair enough 👍
Budget#8265: Good job
thanosks#3929: i dont know how to update drivers
thanosks#3929: if i search about it ill be able to
thanosks#3929: i have updated bios before |
thanosks#3929: but not drivers
TheGeekster#8508: just a quick thing, don't update a bios unless absolutely necessary, you run a very high risk of permanent issues if it goes wrong
thanosks#3929: i had to
thanosks#3929: for zen 2 comparability
thanosks#3929: compatibility
thanosks#3929: so uhhhh
thanosks#3929: is there a chance the cpu is damaged
thanosks#3929: if it showed a black screen?
TheGeekster#8508: if it's working now, doubtful
thanosks#3929: it opens the pc just fine
Muse#0557: Hello
Muse#0557: Big ping
thanosks#3929: ye
Muse#0557: What's happening
thanosks#3929: big crisis |
thanosks#3929: now kinda solved
Budget#8265: CPU wont render anything at all, thats all GPU Related mate
Muse#0557: ^
thanosks#3929: ill check the stability of it
thanosks#3929: well the cpu manages stuff about the gpu too
Budget#8265: It wont cause the game to run a black screen
Budget#8265: Trust me
thanosks#3929: no
thanosks#3929: the whole windows
Budget#8265: You can run a CPU test by running a CPU-Z Stress Test very quickly
thanosks#3929: like crashed
Budget#8265: Run a CPU-Z Stress Test
Budget#8265: Check Temperatures
thanosks#3929: ok
Budget#8265: etc.. |
thanosks#3929: later
Muse#0557: Thought it was a crisis
thanosks#3929: ye whatever
Budget#8265: Mate dont be rude
Budget#8265: People are helping you
Budget#8265: I dont appreciate it
thanosks#3929: im not ruuude
thanosks#3929: ;-;
thanosks#3929: how am i rude
Budget#8265: You literally said "Whatever" to someone tryna help you
Budget#8265: Thats rude
thanosks#3929: no
thanosks#3929: i said whatever its not a crisis
thanosks#3929: i overreacted
Budget#8265: Right |
Budget#8265: Please type it as one message, so we can understand it
Budget#8265: Otherwise it can come across rude
thanosks#3929: okay
thanosks#3929: thx if something else happens ill contact yall
Budget#8265: 👍
SuSSudio#2688: Pardon my mate here, he does type like that in discord. i was the guy who invited him because i thought members here could help him solve tech issues. 🙏
Budget#8265: Issues have been solved
Dogecode#7321: Is there a such thing as “amd only” ddr2
DarknessFalls229#2286: i think so yeah
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah higher density 4gb sticks are mostly amd only
Lumaterian#3557: iirc the 4GB sticks are entirely AMD only
Dogecode#7321: Good to know
Budget#8265: Yeah its old Server RAM usually
Budget#8265: ?
Budget#8265: IIRC |
MythologicalZ#3752: there is some non ecc
Foxious#1859: Gentlemen
Foxious#1859: i am asking for help in identifying the ram in my secondary system
Foxious#1859: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727590738585714688/20200630_212449.jpg
Foxious#1859: Also i question why discord refuses to upload phone pictures correctly
Lumaterian#3557: it's ddr3 ram
Foxious#1859: I already know that, i meant more about the amount and speed
Lumaterian#3557: looks like 2 4GB sticks
Lumaterian#3557: speed is 1600 cl 11, I think
Lumaterian#3557: so bog standard 1600MHz DDR3
Foxious#1859: the form factor puzzles me
Lumaterian#3557: low profile ddr3
Lumaterian#3557: it's a thing, just not super common
Foxious#1859: im planning on replacing it
Lumaterian#3557: pro tip, those sticks have a model number |
Lumaterian#3557: KVR16N11S8/4
Lumaterian#3557: if you google that, you get spec sheets
Foxious#1859: cheers mate
Lumaterian#3557: KingstonValueRAM 16(00MHz) (CL)11
Foxious#1859: Its not even bog standard
Lumaterian#3557: / 4(GB)
Currency Converter Bot#4703: Command not recognized...
Foxious#1859: its value ram as you said
Deleted User#0000: it's 4gb CL11 ddr3 memory
Deleted User#0000: running at 1600mhz
Lumaterian#3557: speed/latency is bog standard
Foxious#1859: its also dirt cheap
Lumaterian#3557: dimm height has no bearing on performance
Foxious#1859: 24 euros for 4gb is not alot brand new
Lumaterian#3557: and that's horrific value used |
Foxious#1859: true that
Foxious#1859: but brand new its not bad, propably been that price for almost a decade
Lumaterian#3557: no reason to buy new ddr3 anymore
Foxious#1859: well, other than the fact that there is not alot of ddr3 for sale near me
Foxious#1859: especially when the bloody thing is more expensive used
Foxious#1859: Propably gonna have to buy 16gb of 1866 DDR3 Fury HyperX ram for 92 bloody euros
Foxious#1859: it is basically the ddr3 version of my 16gb furyX set, except that mine is the same price while being 3200 DDR4
Foxious#1859: bloody hell why cant finland have something sensible like CEX
Alcyone#2233: nothng on ebay that will ship?
Also faster ram might not matter if that is going in an old locked system that only supports 1333-1600
Foxious#1859: Its not an old locked system
Foxious#1859: its an Asus PBZ77-V PRO and I5 3570K combo, old? yes but locked? no
Alcyone#2233: id look on ebay and whatever markets available for a better deal, at 100 euros id sell the board+cpu and get a ddr4 system
Foxious#1859: no point as 1st. shipping to here is quite expensive and ddr4 systems are not cheap 2. |
Foxious#1859: and the ddr4 system i would get for the money would not be powerful
Foxious#1859: and this will be my main pc just for a few years while im in school
Gamefreak924#5901: Before my hair starts falling out, can someone send me a simple tutorial on how to install mingw?
Gamefreak924#5901: I installed the zip folder and I do not see a setup file *anywhere*
Gamefreak924#5901: No tutorials online are clear. I'm just trying to set it up with Sublime to code in C++
Gamefreak924#5901: This is actual pain
Lady Mipha#0611: you looked here @Gamefreak924 http://www.mingw.org/wiki/Getting_Started
Gamefreak924#5901: Longest installation process ever
Gamefreak924#5901: P a i n
Foxious#1859: What is the point of having normal ram and low profile ram? if they are identical, why isint everything low profile? As i have heard that heatspreaders are there only for show and low profile ram performs the same
Muse#0557: It's probably more expensive to produce
MarcosCodas#6375: Low profile RAM is the result of optimization in the process. Also, there's less room for things like overclocking, etc
MarcosCodas#6375: Heatspreaders on overclockable RAM makes sense
MarcosCodas#6375: Remember also that RAM is made up of several chiplets
MarcosCodas#6375: So, as the process is refined over time, the chiplets get smaller |
MarcosCodas#6375: And more energy efficient
mi3night#2562: @Foxious low profile ram is used if u have a giant cpu cooler like me and I have to move the fan up by a inch cuz the cooler is blocking the ram
Foxious#1859: understood, cheers guys
Lumaterian#3557: yeah the original ddr3 couldn't have been low-height
Lumaterian#3557: that stuff came later
mi3night#2562: I like noctua nhd15 cooler because they moved the fins up by like 2 inches so that way u won’t run into ram compatibility issues
Muse#0557: I could of given more detail
Muse#0557: But I was technically correct
Muse#0557: First
Muse#0557: :epicgamer:
mi3night#2562: Sick
Muse#0557: O mode
mi3night#2562: Is nhd15 worth it
Muse#0557: What for
mi3night#2562: Overclocking ryzen |
Muse#0557: Either go Noctua or Be Quiet for high end air cooling imo
Muse#0557: 🙏
Muse#0557: Both are pricey but high quality
mi3night#2562: My scythe mugen is doing fine lol
mi3night#2562: For $30
Muse#0557: Oh stick to that
Cyberdev#1041: So i have a Optiplex 755 Mini Tower with a Intel Core 2 Duo Quad and a 3TB HDD
Does Windows 10 Pro can fry my hardware because i installed windows 10 pro, then a week later my hardware wouldn't display anything even when i turned it on with no error on the front panel
I had a friend tell me windows 10 is fruing older hardware not sure if its true i reordered a brand new motherboard but any advice?
Muse#0557: If anybody lives in the UK and has good tech deals HMU
Muse#0557: 🙏
mi3night#2562: difference between m4a and mp3?
Muse#0557: M4a is video |
Muse#0557: Mp3 is audio
Muse#0557: Wait no
mi3night#2562: i literally sent a audio file thats m4a
Muse#0557: Pretty sure M4a is just MP4 audio
Muse#0557: Is less lossy than mp3
Alcyone#2233: 750ti vs 650ti boost edition in 2020?
Alcyone#2233: 560ti vs 750ti vs 650 ti boost
BigPierogi#3368: @Muse m4a is audio
Lumaterian#3557: M4A stands for Mother4kin Audio
Muse#0557: Not like I corrected myself or anything
BigPierogi#3368: no way at all
Alcyone#2233: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-Radeon-HD7790-Dual-X-Tested/283917896049
$30, but I think this is the best cheap ebay gpu
BigPierogi#3368: @Alcyone what about a 7850 |
Alcyone#2233: those tend to be about $50 shipped unless you find a good auction
BigPierogi#3368: i got mine for like 35 shipped
Alcyone#2233: I was trying to find a $20 gpu that could do 720p in some modernish games
Alcyone#2233: but below the 7790 its pretty slow stuff
Alcyone#2233: I already have a gtx 560 but I was looking for 2gb vram or better cards
Alcyone#2233: what else is good and cheap
Muse#0557: 7790 is a little beast ngl
Alcyone#2233: has a 6 pin. I might get one and do some softmod for more power
Lumaterian#3557: 1GB card
Lumaterian#3557: not worth
Muse#0557: And what 2GB do you recommend in the same price bracket
BigPierogi#3368: gt 210
BigPierogi#3368: with i5 650
Muse#0557: You're a funny man
Muse#0557: You know that |
Muse#0557: Biggest funny
BigPierogi#3368: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/296056831514509312/718995758514307162/image0-3.gif
Dogecode#7321: @Cyberdev Windows 10 isn’t the reason your computer died. If the new board doesn’t work it’s probably the cheap oem power supply that’s gone out if I had to guess
Cyberdev#1041: The power supply still works and.powers on normally if the.psu died it wouldnt power anything at all
BigPierogi#3368: maybe the graphics chip/card is dying/dead?
boog#9487: What happened
Cyberdev#1041: Thats my guess when i turn it on it boots normally when i unplugg the usb i can hear the sounds of unplugging the usb but no display though thst it tries to
boog#9487: Hmm
BigPierogi#3368: so that probably means its the card
boog#9487: Do you have integrated graphics or another card to test with?
Cyberdev#1041: I even tries refreshing the video driver and nope so im assuming the onboard gpu chip fried?
boog#9487: Can you send a picture of the inside of the PC
Cyberdev#1041: I tried an external gpu next thinking it will bypass the onboard gpu chip but nope doesnt do it
Cyberdev#1041: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727707169222557776/IMG_20200629_120426.jpg
boog#9487: Any graphics card? |
Cyberdev#1041: This is the board it dead becasue the gpu chip is bad
boog#9487: Looks like 775
Cyberdev#1041: It died before my graphics card came in the.mail
boog#9487: The motherboard is fine
Cyberdev#1041: Yes its from the Optiplex 755 Mini Towe
boog#9487: Well
boog#9487: Actually
boog#9487: Now I'm thinking
Cyberdev#1041: The on board graphics chip gou see that has thermal paste i guess went bad becasue every other chip works
boog#9487: If there's no video then most likely there's a problem with either the motherboard or the cpu itself as I believe 775 CPUs had the igpu in the cpu
boog#9487: Or am i wrong
boog#9487: Wait that was around the time they be putting Nvidia chips on motherboards so
Dogecode#7321: 775 cpus don’t have the igpu
BigPierogi#3368: some baords had onboard
BigPierogi#3368: but not cpu |
boog#9487: Oh I'm wrong then
Cyberdev#1041: N https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727708109539115088/20200630_211155.jpg
Cyberdev#1041: Here i pointed out where the onboard gou is located
Dogecode#7321: I think the Optiplexes had Intel GMA graphics onboard
boog#9487: I mean I'm not really talking from experience but if the computer is assembled rn try resetting the cmos or whatever
Lumaterian#3557: if the board has display outputs, it has GMA
Cyberdev#1041: I tried thatcand nothing i ordered a unopened new motherboard the only outout it had on board was VGA Out
Dogecode#7321: That’s all you get with the onboard graphics on these
Cyberdev#1041: So im curious to see if windows 10 maychave damaged the gpu or it was old and was about to out anyways cause at first the screen went to a yellow tint color then when i restarted all i saw was a black screen
Dogecode#7321: Probably just old
boog#9487: Windows 10 wouldn't have damaged it
Cyberdev#1041: > That’s all you get with the onboard graphics on these
@Dogecode yes you get a 75w PCIe 16x slot
Cyberdev#1041: > Windows 10 wouldn't have damaged it
@boog so just the gpu was got old and died on me? |
boog#9487: Most likely
SuSSudio#2688: I doubt an OS would destroy a gpu especially on idle
Dogecode#7321: These Optiplexes are 10+ years old at this point so not unexpected
Dogecode#7321: For it to die from its age I mean
boog#9487: I mean if you really REALLY don't care about this board you could try and reflow the gpu
SuSSudio#2688: GPU is embedded within the chipset
boog#9487: Yes but isn't it the same premise as a normal gpu?
Cyberdev#1041: Make sense thank you i had a friend that kept telling me windows 10 is unsupported on my kind of hardware due it just going to fry my motherboard but i didnt believe him since i ran windows 10 on even older hardware and i dont really care about the board anymore but dont have the tools to do the reball
boog#9487: I mean it could be that windows 10 just doesn't know what the fuck to do with that gpu
boog#9487: So it just ignores it
boog#9487: But idk much about this
Dogecode#7321: But then it would probably still at least POST
SuSSudio#2688: Try to get it to BIOS screen atleast
boog#9487: ^
Cyberdev#1041: It posted with no display being outputted but would boot as if the syatem had no issues but without the display i tried getting into the bios but doing it blindly sucks |
boog#9487: So no manufacturer splash screen?
SuSSudio#2688: Check your monitor perhaps?
SuSSudio#2688: i saw you mention yellow tint then goes black
Cyberdev#1041: > So no manufacturer splash screen?
@boog nope and i used my tv and my tv is working fine
SuSSudio#2688: loosey or worn VGA cable could be the culprit, too
boog#9487: Aren't the gpus able to be disabled in bios sometimes?
SuSSudio#2688: If he had a video card installed, yes
SuSSudio#2688: else, system won't output display
boog#9487: Dang thought I was onto something
Cyberdev#1041: > i saw you mention yellow tint then goes black
@SuSSudio when it booted and logged into my pc, it turned yellow and at first i thought it was the vga cord but the cord is brand spankin new and when i restarted hoping it.fix it automatically then thats when i just saw a black screen
SuSSudio#2688: Do you have any monitor laying around?
Cyberdev#1041: > If he had a video card installed, yes
@SuSSudio your correct i had it set before it happend when ever i plug in a external gpu it will automatically turn off the onboard gpu but these old systems they require you go install drivers for them first then install them i think |
Cyberdev#1041: > Do you have any monitor laying around?
@SuSSudio not really
SuSSudio#2688: Any other TVs with VGA interface?
SuSSudio#2688: Just to make sure
Cyberdev#1041: We have another tv but doesnt support VGA input only hdmi and composite
SuSSudio#2688: Alright, does your dedicated video card feature HDMI out?
Cyberdev#1041: No
Cyberdev#1041: Just VGA
SuSSudio#2688: I've a feeling that it's your brand new VGA cable causing the issues... but since you don't have a video card that supports HDMI, it's really hard to proof if the cord/vga port is faulty.
TheFifthAce#4128: whats your gpu
TheFifthAce#4128: oh just onboard?
TheFifthAce#4128: @Cyberdev
Dogecode#7321: In the picture did you take the heatsink off the igpu or was it like that
Dogecode#7321: It should have had one on it
Cyberdev#1041: I took it off |
Lumaterian#3557: iirc no board with a northbridge has shipped without a heatsink in this century
Cyberdev#1041: To use as a spare part
Cyberdev#1041: Since i the gpucis basically dead it.doesnt need it anymore
Lumaterian#3557: what
Lumaterian#3557: no
Lumaterian#3557: that is very incorrect
SuSSudio#2688: You're essentially frying your mobo chipset if you leave it open like that
Lumaterian#3557: the memory and pcie controllers are on there
Lumaterian#3557: those produce more heat than the GMA did
TheFifthAce#4128: this man still on 775
TheFifthAce#4128: want to move to 1155
Lumaterian#3557: yeah also that
Lumaterian#3557: ditch 775
mi3night#2562: It’s either 1155 or am4 at this point
thatubuntuguy#5914: So I've run into a really weird issue with my laptop |
thatubuntuguy#5914: My mouse and keyboard do not work at all in OS
thatubuntuguy#5914: Keyboard works find in grub and in the bios
thatubuntuguy#5914: Wtf is going on, I need my laptop for school so help me pls
thatubuntuguy#5914: I'm running arch linux
thatubuntuguy#5914: Idk how to ssh into my laptop as I don't have ssh enabled and I can't use an external mouse and keyboard either in the os I already tried that
thatubuntuguy#5914: I can't connect my ssd to my pc as I don't have SATA to USB
thatubuntuguy#5914: ): Pls
vegetal#8870: pls help hdd make funny noise https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/727885760518160475/IMG_1510.MOV
D.D.M#8226: I cant hear anything that would sound like failure
D.D.M#8226: Is it clicking?
vegetal#8870: no
Lemolea#4442: Hey, I need a new laptop for uni, I'll mostly be programming and taking notes, maybe some more intensive stuff here and there. I also do design + drawing a lot so i wanted a touch screen too. I was thinking of getting this laptop: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-Processor-Graphics-Included-81X20005US/dp/B086226DDB/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=ideapad+flex+14&qid=1593618310&s=electronics&sr=1-1 (im in the uk, so add ~$150 import fees). Does it seem like a good fit/ deal? It's a little pricy for me, but if its good and will last a while then i don't mind
Lemolea#4442: I think it actually works out a bit cheaper than the same model a generation older
Lumaterian#3557: @TheFifthAce isn't this the one you got?
TheFifthAce#4128: yes thats the one I got @Lemolea |
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