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TheFifthAce#4128: I absolutely love that laptop
Lemolea#4442: Huh, how much did you pay for it, could i ask?
TheFifthAce#4128: touchscreen is accurate and responsive, it's very fast, decent cooling and fast graphics, screen is a tiny bit dim but I only use it indoors
TheFifthAce#4128: it was $621 usd after taxes
Lemolea#4442: That's good to hear! What kinda workloads do you put it through? I think mine will mostly be cpu intensive if it does well for that
Lemolea#4442: Ah, it'll be $750 dollars for me
TheFifthAce#4128: Web browsing, photoshop, light gaming (gmod, besiege, kerbal space program, etc)
Lumaterian#3557: if you want to know cpu performance, the 4500U is basically an underclocked R5 3500
TheFifthAce#4128: desktop*
Lumaterian#3557: so check reviews of 3500/3500X and it should be similar
Lumaterian#3557: should™️
TheFifthAce#4128: I benchmarked mine I think
Lumaterian#3557: and yeah desktop, is there a mobile 3500?
Lumaterian#3557: if so it suuucks
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552604205114982400/725151454255382648/unknown.png |
TheFifthAce#4128: @Lumaterian 3500u
TheFifthAce#4128: but yeah
TheFifthAce#4128: 4500u does 2222 multi and 421 single
TheFifthAce#4128: and thats while being power throttled
TheFifthAce#4128: battery saver mode
Lumaterian#3557: multicore perf is roughly equivalent to 3500X at 3.3 there
TheFifthAce#4128: all core clocks to 3.3-3.4
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah
Lumaterian#3557: or a 4.8GHz 4790K
TheFifthAce#4128: single core was like 3.6-3.7
Lumaterian#3557: so we've come a long way
TheFifthAce#4128: oh definitely
TheFifthAce#4128: and it does that while still getting 4-5 hours battery under load
Lumaterian#3557: 4.1GHz i7 3960X
Lumaterian#3557: which is kinda nutty to think about |
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah
Lumaterian#3557: or a hypothetical 7900X underclocked to about 1.4GHz
TheFifthAce#4128: wat
Lumaterian#3557: alternatively, to compare AMD to AMD
Lumaterian#3557: an FX 9590 at about 7GHz
TheFifthAce#4128: lo
TheFifthAce#4128: luma hows the 5600 xt
Lumaterian#3557: it's a gpu™️
Lumaterian#3557: I like it
TheFifthAce#4128: any driver quirks yet
Lumaterian#3557: considering it cost me about 25$
Lumaterian#3557: nope
TheFifthAce#4128: nice
Lemolea#4442: uh... so you're getting into stuff i don't really understand now lol, is it a good deal for $750 or should i look around a bit more?
TheFifthAce#4128: $750 its a great laptop |
Lumaterian#3557: sorry I just love throwing numbers around
TheFifthAce#4128: with import taxes most laptops youre going to find are going to be expensive
TheFifthAce#4128: like an equivalent intel 2 in 1, as far as I can see, costs 900 pounds and has half the ram
Lemolea#4442: alright, i showed my bf the benchmarks and he seemed impressed anyways, thanks for the help. glad to get the opinion of someone who actually owns one 🙂
Lemolea#4442: yeah, looking at amd coz intel is always way more expensive
TheFifthAce#4128: wait not even equal, it's the 4 core i5 model, thin n light 2 in 1s with 6 cores on intels side are insane
TheFifthAce#4128: if you can even find them in stock lo
TheFifthAce#4128: @Lemolea It does depend what youre looking for
TheFifthAce#4128: if you're looking for great power and great functionality thats easy to move around, the flex 5 is great
TheFifthAce#4128: if you want the ultimate best, you *can* get something with a bit more grunt, but that weighs twice as much, has nowhere near as much battery life, and probably still costs just as much
TheFifthAce#4128: and that "best" is only faster by 5-10%
TheFifthAce#4128: realistically, unless you're looking for a gaming laptop with some GPU power in it, the flex 5 is pretty much best in class until dell starts lowering the prices of their AMD 2 in 1s
TheFifthAce#4128: Like if you can get one of these for a similar price, definitely go for this instead, but it costs $100 more in the USA so I imagine its a bunch more in the UK https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/inspiron-14-7000-2-in-1/spd/inspiron-14-7405-2-in-1-laptop
Lemolea#4442: oh god, definitely looking for a thin n light, my last laptop was like a huge 5lb desktop-socketed dell, really fucked up my back/shoulder carrying it every day
TheFifthAce#4128: oh yueah |
TheFifthAce#4128: flex 5 is super light
TheFifthAce#4128: I love it
TheFifthAce#4128: I have joint issues so I needed a super light laptop
TheFifthAce#4128: flex 5 will work great for you
TheFifthAce#4128: or as mentioned, if you can find the inspiron for a decent price, definitely a better machine
Lemolea#4442: ^ that ones listed as only 8 gigs, wouldn't that only leave 6 useable?
TheFifthAce#4128: its upgradable
TheFifthAce#4128: you just throw in another 8gb stick for like $20
TheFifthAce#4128: flex 5 is soldered ram
Lemolea#4442: ah, ok
TheFifthAce#4128: dell has : Better screen, better build quality, upgradable ram, but its like $100 more expensive
TheFifthAce#4128: I personally went with the flex 5 just because it was a lot cheaper
Lemolea#4442: yeah, think i'll go with the flex 5, seems easier to get shipped over here too
Lemolea#4442: thanks man
Lemolea#4442: ugh, how often do most people have to buy a new laptop? I always wait for them to die first but it always happens at the most inconvenient of times 😅 |
Lumaterian#3557: I haven't bought a 'new' laptop since 2014
Lumaterian#3557: since I just use my desktop for everything
Lumaterian#3557: my current laptop is an ivy bridge dual-core meme machine that I got for free
Lemolea#4442: haha, fair enough. I love my desktop so much, but (under normal circumstances) I'm rarely home for long periods of time
Lemolea#4442: seem to need a new laptop every 2 years annoyingly
Bertie Kemp#1114: Can anyone recommend a good ATX case with good airflow for around £50 - £75?
mi3night#2562: @Bertie Kemp meshify
mi3night#2562: @Lemolea if u game a lot I suggest u to get a external gpu dock for ur gpu that way you can swap your gpu in ur desktop and take it anywhere with you and you can game on the go without using your laptop’s igpu
BigPierogi#3368: the focus g is a good case
mi3night#2562: That could be a option too
BigPierogi#3368: lots of airflow
mi3night#2562: But it looks ugly imo
mi3night#2562: Straight out of 2015
BigPierogi#3368: looks fine to me
mi3night#2562: It’s up to him |
mi3night#2562: Tbh imo gaming laptops are dumb because I’d rather have a ultra light laptop that’s built really sturdy and is reliable. If I wanna game a external gpu enclosure is like $300 which is worth it IMO
D.D.M#8226: Hey guys so i am going to buy a laptop because of school and i was thinking would a usb 3 to pcie card work
D.D.M#8226: Just a question
mi3night#2562: @D.D.M thunderbolt?
mi3night#2562: also what laptop ur getting
mi3night#2562: most modern laptops have thunderbolt unless u get amd
D.D.M#8226: No just usb 3 type a
D.D.M#8226: I dont know the exact laptop but it was a lenovo with a 10th gen i7 and mx330 gpu
mi3night#2562: why tho
D.D.M#8226: Just curious
mi3night#2562: lenovo laptops are meh
D.D.M#8226: It caught my eyr
mi3night#2562: which one
D.D.M#8226: Eyes?
mi3night#2562: no the laptop |
D.D.M#8226: I told youi dont know the exact model
D.D.M#8226: Just those specs
mi3night#2562: how much?
D.D.M#8226: About 500€
mi3night#2562: oof
D.D.M#8226: But in my currency
D.D.M#8226: 37000 macedonian denars
mi3night#2562: no i dont think usba have the bandwith for a egpu
D.D.M#8226: K
mi3night#2562: @D.D.M can ur country ship from britain
mi3night#2562: u can get a dell xps 9550 with i7 6700hq with 4k panel, WAY BETTER build quality than lenovo for 500 pounds
D.D.M#8226: Ok i will look into it
D.D.M#8226: Wait is it used or new?
mi3night#2562: Ofc used
mi3night#2562: If u want a new laptop then lol |
mi3night#2562: Ask abstract
PanasonicBlueray#8325: Lads, I have a kind of important question
PanasonicBlueray#8325: Anyone lives in or knows a country where its illegal to open up/repair/modify your electronics?
PanasonicBlueray#8325: Hope this counts here(?)
PanasonicBlueray#8325: Channel wise
Muse#0557: Im pretty sure they are illegal in a lot of countries and have been for a while of course there are greedy exceptions
PanasonicBlueray#8325: Im really curious cuz my country has just passed a law law that makes even just changing the OS in your pc illegal
PanasonicBlueray#8325: But im not too sure how its going to actually work, goverment hasnt said anything really
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @MythologicalZ thoughts on thermaltake aios ? these to be specific https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/728186871045423144/IMG-20200702-WA0000.jpg
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i can pretty much conclude from what u said here but i think we were talking custom loop so maybe aios are a different story? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/728187144090157128/Screenshot_20200702-115403.png
MythologicalZ#3752: well for starters, they are 120mm memes so not worth touching at all
MythologicalZ#3752: and secondly they are both just rebranded asetek
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.asetek.com/gamingenthusiasts/diy-partners/thermaltake
MythologicalZ#3752: except the white one is much older, think they went retail in 2013
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: well yeah 120mm memes but didnt know they were rebranded asteks tho , i wouldnt go for the 2013 one i dont know if they still make them or if its older stock but if its older stock its defo corroded by now |
but like astek does make decent stuff but lets say the 240mm rgb one or 360 it should be good right? @MythologicalZ
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah I guess
MythologicalZ#3752: shouldnt be buying an aio though :Peter:
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: tru dat
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: pointless
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: a good air cooler would be a better buy
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah more reliable for a gaming rig
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: aight thanks
wiryfuture🦀#1706: what's happening here? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/728244769549058056/unknown.png
BigPierogi#3368: scary stuff
D.D.M#8226: It looks like a minecraft server error or crash
BigPierogi#3368: it literally says its not a crash at the bottom
D.D.M#8226: Yeah i see
wiryfuture🦀#1706: weird https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/728251612170027078/unknown.png |
Muse#0557: Servers spit out tons of errors even when running fine
Muse#0557: Are you running mods?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: no
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I blame spigot 1.16.1 snapshot
Muse#0557: Probably
mi3night#2562: @the aggresive toilet flusher fuck aio
mi3night#2562: Get a air cooler
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @mi3night :epicgamer: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/728327834979794964/Screenshot_20200702-211439.png
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: u didnt even read half way through :epicgamer: :epicgamer:
mi3night#2562: @the aggresive toilet flusher waste $300 on custom loop when
mi3night#2562: josh already done that
TheFifthAce#4128: can I test dual 8 pin cards with only 1 8 pin
like will it display
uwu
1070 ti and 970 |
DarknessFalls229#2286: dont think it will the GPU will turn on with only one out of two 8pins installed, but if you bridge the sense connectors it should work
DarknessFalls229#2286: @TheFifthAce
TheFifthAce#4128: @DarknessFalls229 ended up buying a 6 pin to dual 8 pin lo
TheFifthAce#4128: just need to make sure it displays
DarknessFalls229#2286: alright
EmperorOfFinland#9257: its not a good idea to do so
EmperorOfFinland#9257: it would about work
EmperorOfFinland#9257: but its not recommended at all.
DarknessFalls229#2286: the adapter or shorting the sense pins?
DarknessFalls229#2286: cause im pretty sure you can pull like 250 watt out of a single 8 pin GPU cable
TheFifthAce#4128: @EmperorOfFinland its a 1070 ti lol
TheFifthAce#4128: itll be fine
TheFifthAce#4128: 1070 ti only draws 180w
DarknessFalls229#2286: and if you have a decent PSU you can go outside of spec
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i mean you better hope your rail can do that |
EmperorOfFinland#9257: thats why i dont recommend you doing that
TheFifthAce#4128: like I said, its not to run lol
TheFifthAce#4128: just to make sure it displays
EmperorOfFinland#9257: unless you know the PSU is not going to go full china PSU
EmperorOfFinland#9257: and literally melt infront of you
TheFifthAce#4128: lo
DarknessFalls229#2286: Also, not all PSUs have 1 rail per pack of cables
DarknessFalls229#2286: my PSU has a single rail running lik 64A
DarknessFalls229#2286: or it was 56
Deleted User#0000: is there the opposite of this?
like
the p3 connection being the opposite of the one shown https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/728376892008300624/018-6095_normal.png
Muse#0557: I cant get those adapters to work at all
BigPierogi#3368: i got one to sorta work
BigPierogi#3368: it gave video but no audio |
Deleted User#0000: my xbox 360 had one of those
Deleted User#0000: it worked, the composite video looks like crap on that console so it's much better to use the hdmi port instead, but it got the job done
Alcyone#2233: @Deleted User you dont need a different cable, just plug the cables into miosmatched colors if the stack isnt right
Deleted User#0000: i dont think u got it
Alcyone#2233: I have one for a game gear tv tuner, video is the left audio channel
Deleted User#0000: i mean like
Deleted User#0000: this one being a connector (input) while still outputing https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/728381272858296340/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: it just makes a connection on pins inside the jack, whatever they are assigned to on the device will be on the corresponding connector
mi3night#2562: Can u guys help me to find a lcd for my MSI ge72 2qd
Foxious#1859: There are loads in Ebay
Foxious#1859: around the 100 euro mark
mi3night#2562: @Foxious can you verify that’s a 40 pin https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/728484680801976450/image0.jpg
mi3night#2562: When I counted I got 40 but I don’t trust myself
mi3night#2562: @Alcyone alcyone count
mi3night#2562: Is it 40 or 30 |
Alcyone#2233: thats a normal 40 pin
Alcyone#2233: if its laptop ide, they are 44 because the power is through the cable as well
mi3night#2562: https://www.ebay.com/itm/202448241010
mi3night#2562: @Alcyone I read a article and it told me to buy this model
Alcyone#2233: i dont really know much about laptops. 16:10 120hz seems nice though
mi3night#2562: Oh shit
mi3night#2562: @Alcyone the lcd currently on my laptop is 1920x1080
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/728491080630403132/image0.png
mi3night#2562: Fuck me
mi3night#2562: They guy on eBay mislabeled it
Foxious#1859: @mi3night Why dont you just use an external monitor? or do you use your laptop on the go?
Foxious#1859: Also if you live in UK, CEX may have them... but im not a brit so i dont know
mi3night#2562: @Foxious ima use it on the go cuz i already have a 3700x 1080ti pc at home
mi3night#2562: also im usa btw
Foxious#1859: ight |
Andie Daysinton#6666: i was thinking
Andie Daysinton#6666: of if you could have a couple of boards with a simple SSD and CPU to Give their CPU Power to help your main rig when you do video editing
EmperorOfFinland#9257: So i have been thinking about getting a good cooler for socket 734 but im not sure are any of the modern cpu coolers compatible with that.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: So any tips about that?
Deleted User#0000: > of if you could have a couple of boards with a simple SSD and CPU to Give their CPU Power to help your main rig when you do video editing
@Andie Daysinton It would be hell on earth to develop software for a hardware config like that
Deleted User#0000: but now that I think about it, that's basicly what gpu rendering does
Andie Daysinton#6666: Theres software for it
Deleted User#0000: after all, a gpu is a cpu that's good at parallel tasks
Andie Daysinton#6666: I just don't know how to go about it
Andie Daysinton#6666: and Most Video Editing is CPU Heavy not GPU
Deleted User#0000: yeah, but you can chose to render with the gpu pal, that's what intel's quick sync does
Deleted User#0000: it depends of the codec you use to render videos
Andie Daysinton#6666: or what codecs is available
Andie Daysinton#6666: i do MP4 FullHD |
Andie Daysinton#6666: but the new camera i am getting is doing MOV Files
Deleted User#0000: search on youtube how to activate gpu rendering on your specific video editing software, beware that gpu rendering usually lowers the video quality of your videos a little bit, but it's often not noticeable due to youtube's video compression.
Andie Daysinton#6666: i don't do youtube
Deleted User#0000: well, that depends of your situation then, is the absolute best video quality important for you?
Andie Daysinton#6666: Quality in video and Sound is good but my AM3+ build suffered some bad accident
Deleted User#0000: what happened?
Andie Daysinton#6666: long story short
Andie Daysinton#6666: i was cleaning it and my cpu came off with socket and all
Deleted User#0000: oofff
Deleted User#0000: did you kill it?
Andie Daysinton#6666: no
Andie Daysinton#6666: Well i killed the Board
Andie Daysinton#6666: and then threw the Cpu
Andie Daysinton#6666: So it died from gravity Force Trauma
Deleted User#0000: O.o |
mi3night#2562: @Alcyone ok so everytime i look up the MSI GE72 2QD-405US screen it's always 30 pin but when i counted the pin on my motherboard it has 40 pins. So whats wrong here?
Alcyone#2233: im not sure, maybe some revision
Alcyone#2233: can you remove the panel or the rear cover to it and get a model number on the screen itself?
mi3night#2562: @Alcyone I ordered a panel already so I hope It works. Also I was thinking that the cable of edp is 40 pin from mobo but 30 pin to the screen
mi3night#2562: Could it be that
Alcyone#2233: could be
mi3night#2562: @Alcyone edp wise, is there any compatible issues across the platform ?
mi3night#2562: The panel I ordered fits on every modern ge72 laptop but I’m wondering if the cable fits in there would it work fine
mi3night#2562: It’s claiming to work on every ge72 but I’m just worried
mi3night#2562: Ok I’m thinking too much
mi3night#2562: :gourmet:
Alcyone#2233: if you got it on ebay, return should be ez if its not right
EmperorOfFinland#9257: So i take it no one knows good AMD socket 754 compatible CPU coolers?
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i know there is asetek vapochill but that is not available
Alcyone#2233: do you mean socket 754, like old athlons? |
EmperorOfFinland#9257: oh yeah i do
EmperorOfFinland#9257: my knowledge of the old amd sockets is patchy
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i have a D-15 but i think it wont fit that
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i have a 754 system with OC board on the post office
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i know socket 939 is am2-am3 compatible
Alcyone#2233: yeah anything with amd AMx clip mounts will work
Alcyone#2233: I use a cheap deepcool s40 on my old athlons, its more than enough
Alcyone#2233: any 120mm fan tower cooler will be good enough for 754
EmperorOfFinland#9257: so youre saying a Noctua D-15 should mount on it=
EmperorOfFinland#9257: as i will be using that
Alcyone#2233: i think that uses a screw mount so no
Alcyone#2233: it mitght if the hole spacing for the backplate is the same
Alcyone#2233: but that is also way overkill for low power 1c1t
EmperorOfFinland#9257: although i have a wraith spire cooler too
EmperorOfFinland#9257: well |
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i want to push max OC on it.
Alcyone#2233: you can on just about any cooler
Alcyone#2233: i run 1.75v with the deepcool and it never gets hot
EmperorOfFinland#9257: and it wont break itself with thouse volts?
Lumaterian#3557: shit's ancient
Lumaterian#3557: 1.75v is cake
Lumaterian#3557: sandy bridge can take 1.5v no problems
Lumaterian#3557: 754 athlons are like... 130nm?
EmperorOfFinland#9257: lowpower?
EmperorOfFinland#9257: 87W TDP is not small
EmperorOfFinland#9257: especially on the standards of that day
Muse#0557: 87 is perfectly fine my guy
Alcyone#2233: tdp is irrelevant for the most part, 754 will pull low amperage with any ambient cooling. I am using "89w" socket 940 athlon fx with a 120mm cooler and temps are fine even in stress tests
Lumaterian#3557: tdp is a meme on every cpu tbh
Lady Mipha#0611: definitely |
Lady Mipha#0611: intel is the worse one
Foxious#1859: Since this is also an tech talk chat
Foxious#1859: can you gentlemen tell your toughts on something?
Foxious#1859: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/728828715110367323/20200704_072304.jpg
Foxious#1859: This was my first time with cable management
Foxious#1859: what do you think, considering this is a 2012 budget cooler master mid tower? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/728828870844874792/Cooler-Master-HAD-912-Plus.png
Foxious#1859: I spent 3 hours building it so i want to hear your critisism and compliments
Muse#0557: Nice job especially considering cases like these are a pain to build in
Foxious#1859: Actually funny how that case used to be around 60 dollars
Foxious#1859: about the same as my Cooler Master Masterbox 5 lite is nowadays
Foxious#1859: but the older case has actual airflow (i have to keep the front panel off so that the pc can breath) and cable management is actually possible!
Foxious#1859: and the tradeoff? you have to give up USB 3 on the case and the side window. The older one wins out imo
mi3night#2562: People expect my cable management to be perfect when I got a sata raid card
FuckinReece#0021: friend told me intel stock coolers are easier to use than amds
FuckinReece#0021: your guys opinions |
Foxious#1859: well
Foxious#1859: is the AMD still using the antique method of bending a piece of metal over a clip?
Foxious#1859: the same used for example in pentium 3 heatsinks?
Foxious#1859: because they are about as easy as intel stock
Foxious#1859: and usually faster
Foxious#1859: @FuckinReece Do they use the "bend a piece of metal over a latch"?
FuckinReece#0021: yep
Foxious#1859: well then, it is quite easy if the piece of metal decides not to act like an ass
Foxious#1859: my socket 370 celeron stock heatsink, im looking at you
Critical#7335: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/728937308862021642/unknown.png
Critical#7335: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/728937365724201010/unknown.png
Critical#7335: thats the thing
rriot#6100: ah modified office pc
rriot#6100: still beyond me why he gave it away
Critical#7335: dudes fuckin weird man |
Critical#7335: hes also giving me a 750 watt PSU to use in my SLI rig
rriot#6100: lucky man
rriot#6100: is this your main pc now?
Critical#7335: nope
Critical#7335: I have an i7 7700k GTX 1080 rig
Critical#7335: its going to a friend of mine
Critical#7335: he was going to build a PC before the pandemic but wasn't able to
rriot#6100: that's nice of you
rriot#6100: at least it's going to someone who needs it
Critical#7335: yeah
Critical#7335: all I need to do a slap a ssd into it
Muse#0557: Amd stock coolers are 12 times easier to get on and they dont break at the slightest mistake
Andie Daysinton#6666: what about Nzxt kraken
Andie Daysinton#6666: I was thinking of doing CPU and GPU Cooling That way
Andie Daysinton#6666: as my 1060 is over warranty so might as well Tinker |
Lumaterian#3557: waste of money
Andie Daysinton#6666: how so
Andie Daysinton#6666: even For CPU ?
mi3night#2562: Amd stock paste is stupid
Andie Daysinton#6666: I Know
Andie Daysinton#6666: thats why i never want stock paste or Cooler Ever again
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729009523498680380/image0.png
mi3night#2562: I’m so used to LGA
BigPierogi#3368: whats the problem with the stock cooler
EmperorOfFinland#9257: oh that has happened on me at work for couple times 😛
mi3night#2562: So I just yeet the cooler and nothing happens
mi3night#2562: Yeah
mi3night#2562: That’s why I like to work with intel CPU until the pin on the mobo is fucked
EmperorOfFinland#9257: you should pick like a flatheaded screwdriver and edge it off.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: not pull it |
mi3night#2562: This is literally my first time using a amd system
mi3night#2562: Most of the time when I get amd PCs I just sell them as a whole pc cuz the cpu is worthless
mi3night#2562: @Andie Daysinton aio are not worth it
mi3night#2562: Periodt
Andie Daysinton#6666: aio ?
BigPierogi#3368: all in one
Alcyone#2233: all in one liquid cooler
BigPierogi#3368: liquid cooler
Alcyone#2233: D15 and a morpheus II would be a better investment. If youre going to do liquid cooling, go all in and build a loop
EmperorOfFinland#9257: AIO works to an extent, its just a littlebit pricy.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: compared to topend aircoolers
Andie Daysinton#6666: i am not doing AIO Liquid Cooler
Andie Daysinton#6666: I am just Doing kraken Mounting
Lumaterian#3557: the kraken is an aio cooler
Alcyone#2233: if youre talking about a g12 bracket, those are to mount aio to gpu |
Lumaterian#3557: unless you've somehow found an aftermarket gpu cooler called the kraken that isn't made by nzxt
mi3night#2562: Also u have a intel cpu
mi3night#2562: Or idk
mi3night#2562: @Andie Daysinton specs?
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729012479178309682/xh3ux3bd9kp21.png
Andie Daysinton#6666: Its for my CPU and 1060 6GB for my MATX Build
mi3night#2562: What’s ur cpu
mi3night#2562: Ryzen ?
Andie Daysinton#6666: Ryzen 5 to start
mi3night#2562: What’s ur budget
Andie Daysinton#6666: then Ryzen 9 later on
Lumaterian#3557: aios are an exceptional waste of money
Lumaterian#3557: 10 times out of 10
Lumaterian#3557: get air cooling and put the extra toward better components
Andie Daysinton#6666: it's the build you helped assemble |
mi3night#2562: ~~Just like 2011v3 Xeon~~
Lumaterian#3557: the 11th time they are required to fit in a very small form factor case, and you've wasted the money on itx components instead
mi3night#2562: @Andie Daysinton get a noctua cooler
Deleted User#0000: ive got a noctua N15, beast of a cooler
mi3night#2562: He has matx soooo
Andie Daysinton#6666: I Can't Do Aircooling 100% Soon as i am finally getting my Hearing implant
Lumaterian#3557: what
mi3night#2562: Trust me aio are louder @Andie Daysinton
Lumaterian#3557: aios ain't silent mate
Alcyone#2233: nerd plz
mi3night#2562: There’s 2 fans and a pump on aio
Lumaterian#3557: they have a fan *and* a pump
Deleted User#0000: i barely ever hear my noctua
Andie Daysinton#6666: i have been waiting 6 years for an Implant still in test
mi3night#2562: Ok but air cooler is actually more quiet |
Alcyone#2233: d15 is the best cooler you can buy that you dont assemble yourself
Lumaterian#3557: yep this ain't working, enjoy wasting your money, I'll enjoy laughing at you
Andie Daysinton#6666: Wow
Andie Daysinton#6666: Troll
mi3night#2562: Dude let’s not @Lumaterian
Lumaterian#3557: you're the troll, dead
mi3night#2562: ...
Lumaterian#3557: we've told him like 15 times
mi3night#2562: @Andie Daysinton go look up benchmarks on YouTube if u wanna see
Lumaterian#3557: if he didn't get it by that point he's either trolling or stupid
Andie Daysinton#6666: WOW
Andie Daysinton#6666: Just Wow
mi3night#2562: https://youtu.be/7VzXHUTqE7E
mi3night#2562: Just watch this vid
Deleted User#0000: that video was very helpful, i watched it and decided against an aio |
mi3night#2562: If u spend €200 on a 360mm aio then yeah it’s gonna be slightly better
mi3night#2562: But at that point why not spend a little more and u get custom loop
Andie Daysinton#6666: Really
mi3night#2562: I mean yeah you can get a aio but expect to pay like $150 for a good one
Andie Daysinton#6666: well
mi3night#2562: Some people don’t mind cuz it looks good
mi3night#2562: Also aio are easier to install that air coolers
mi3night#2562: It’s straight forward not some stupid mounting mechanism
Andie Daysinton#6666: Custom loop i can't do in my tower
mi3night#2562: It’s possible but very hard cuz matx
Deleted User#0000: also Scythe makes good air coolers.
mi3night#2562: I have a scythe mugen 4 rn for $30
mi3night#2562: My main complaint with it is that the mounting mechanism is stupid
mi3night#2562: Also just like 90% of air coolers.....ram clearance
Deleted User#0000: i was on the fence between scythe and noctua. i have just enough space for the noctua |
mi3night#2562: I had $30 lol
mi3night#2562: Can’t get a noctua for $30
EmperorOfFinland#9257: AIO wont matter unless you pick a 280 or 360 one with good power fans. that would outperform a D-15
EmperorOfFinland#9257: but be prepared to pay 50-120€ more for it.
mi3night#2562: No some 240 still beats nhd15
mi3night#2562: But it’s like $150
mi3night#2562: Oh yeah also. Aio coolers degrade over time @Andie Daysinton
Andie Daysinton#6666: Cpu: Ryzen 5 3600
Mobo: GIGABYTE B550M AORUS PRO
Ram: 16GB Kingston HyperX FURY DDR4-3200
HDD 1: Kingston 250gb
HDD 2: 2TB Seagate
GPU: MSI 1060 6GB Gaming X
Case: Thermaltake Core V21
PSU: 750W Corsair |
This Build Mood
mi3night#2562: So after like 3 years ur aio cooler would be like shite
mi3night#2562: Cuz the pump is like f u
EmperorOfFinland#9257: depends if it gunks up or not.
Andie Daysinton#6666: after 3 years you say
mi3night#2562: A air cooler would last u like idk 15 years
BigPierogi#3368: well
BigPierogi#3368: that dfepends
BigPierogi#3368: on the fan
mi3night#2562: Until the socket changes
mi3night#2562: Then yeah
EmperorOfFinland#9257: you can always replace a fan on aircooler though so it would work. with small repairs. AIO is broken and really hard to fix.
Andie Daysinton#6666: if i blow compressed air every 2 months and keep it clean
EmperorOfFinland#9257: if it does break
mi3night#2562: If intel got high and went like. Lga 1169 and a completely different mounting |
mi3night#2562: Air coolers are way more durable that’s true too
EmperorOfFinland#9257: AIO is just prettymuch a novelty and a statusitem for people not willing to go Openloop.
mi3night#2562: I mean
mi3night#2562: If ur right in the middle
mi3night#2562: For say $180
mi3night#2562: Then yeah get 360mm
EmperorOfFinland#9257: as openloop has its own caviats about it
EmperorOfFinland#9257: and alot more can go wrong with it.
mi3night#2562: For the price of a custom cooler might as well upgrade ur gtx1060 to something better @Andie Daysinton
Andie Daysinton#6666: What you mean
Andie Daysinton#6666: my 1060 is pretty okay still
EmperorOfFinland#9257: well i would still slap a decent cooler on AMD to be honest.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: its dependant on getting high boostclocks on fullload
EmperorOfFinland#9257: it wont boost high if it overheats.
Andie Daysinton#6666: No i just want to keep in the 60's Cs |
Muse#0557: Tbf ive got a scythe cooler from 1156
Muse#0557: That is still a monster
EmperorOfFinland#9257: wel..
Muse#0557: So thats what 11 years
EmperorOfFinland#9257: keeping in 60C under load. well.
Deleted User#0000: ive got my ryzen 2600 OC to 4 on the noctua, on stress tests it gets to 70 degrees
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i dont keep my 3800X under 70C with 360mm AIO so there is that.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: on videorendering.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: ryzens will boost up to certain point always no matter the cooling.
Andie Daysinton#6666: I Just want Proper cooling that doesn't fuck with my ears anymore
EmperorOfFinland#9257: stockcooler will.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: so you need something better
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i know for a fact
Andie Daysinton#6666: High Pitch noises
EmperorOfFinland#9257: my friend has a 3600 with a stockcooler |
EmperorOfFinland#9257: lets say its way more annoying than my 360mm AIO on full fan and pumpspeed.
Andie Daysinton#6666: I can hear high pitch noise Really Well and it can excrusiating painful
mi3night#2562: Yeah get air cooler then
Andie Daysinton#6666: i have to wear
Andie Daysinton#6666: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1721/0649/products/Isolate-Splitscreen-Pro-sale_1000x1000_890f763a-7d11-42c7-98ed-b3b6dc55eabd.jpg?v=1589203597
mi3night#2562: Some aio coolers make a whiny sound
Andie Daysinton#6666: Outside
EmperorOfFinland#9257: mine does not.
mi3night#2562: Some
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729018096035299438/Rustlers-Deluxe.png
Andie Daysinton#6666: i could barely wear headphone as i still heard the noises from my air cooler
Andie Daysinton#6666: Which is why i ask for help
Deleted User#0000: also to consider some aio's pumps fail at the worst times.
Andie Daysinton#6666: Well
Muse#0557: Pumps die faster than fan bearings from my experience and knowledge |
Muse#0557: They are also much more difficult to replace
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm confused, what? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729111397774000188/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: What difference does this actually make :haha:
Deleted User#0000: an uefi is basicly a fancy bios, for motherboards it allows graphical interfaces rather than just text
Deleted User#0000: I don't know the benefits of having an uefi in a gpu though
wiryfuture🦀#1706: well, I'm not sure that's quite right ..
Muse#0557: Same here
mi3night#2562: Some mobo have so shit uefi bios that I rather use a traditional one
mi3night#2562: Asus bios imo are the best
Muse#0557: @Alcyone Can H67 Overclock
mi3night#2562: @Muse 1080p 120 or 4k 60
mi3night#2562: Let’s say u have a 2080ti
Muse#0557: Bruh
Muse#0557: Huh
Foxious#1859: I took off the backplate of my GTX 470 |
Foxious#1859: and it has a sticker that says "Xpert Vision"
Foxious#1859: what does it mean
Foxious#1859: Also fucking burn marks one the ***METAL*** backplate, of a gtx 470, holy hell those things really ran hot
Foxious#1859: or what ever is called the IO shield? of the gtx 470
MythologicalZ#3752: Post image
MythologicalZ#3752: Probably just grime or dust
Foxious#1859: i could not get my camera to focus
Foxious#1859: but it was 2 dots right under DVI ports, and they were there so... "non randomly" (?) that i dont think it could have been grime or dust
Foxious#1859: but i wiped it off with some very high strenght cleaning stuff
Foxious#1859: but the backplate is warped in such a way that i think it has some sort of heat damage from cycles
MythologicalZ#3752: could just be rust
Andie Daysinton#6666: Yo
Andie Daysinton#6666: @mi3night i am looking into a custom cooling Cycle system
Andie Daysinton#6666: Should i go Softpipe or hardpipe
wiryfuture🦀#1706: hmmm https://www.gumtree.com/p/memory-motherboards-processors/msi-b450-gaming-plus-motherboard-faulty/1370389651 |
MythologicalZ#3752: 93 days ago
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yeah
wiryfuture🦀#1706: also, I'm sus of what they were doing that "it suddenly not working"
wiryfuture🦀#1706: lol https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729336743949631489/unknown.png
BigPierogi#3368: bruh
wiryfuture🦀#1706: £22 premium for 2 case fan headers rather than 1 on a matx board
wiryfuture🦀#1706: brilliant
wiryfuture🦀#1706: fug it
wiryfuture🦀#1706: better than having a single push fan
mi3night#2562: @Andie Daysinton prepare €350 if you want a good quality custom loop system. Hard tube looks more neat and nicer. But soft tube is easier to work with
Andie Daysinton#6666: Well would Thermal takes kits be a good startpoint ?
mi3night#2562: id say no because it's a better idea to buy all the components separately
mi3night#2562: also if u gonna custom loop i suggest u to get a mid atx or full atx case
mi3night#2562: mini atx cases are a ass to custom loop in
mi3night#2562: @Andie Daysinton |
Andie Daysinton#6666: well i am getting 2 of the towers for that
Andie Daysinton#6666: I have never bought the components
Andie Daysinton#6666: So how do i go about that
Andie Daysinton#6666: @mi3night
mi3night#2562: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU2KvawDP10 @Andie Daysinton
Andie Daysinton#6666: i have to solder shit
Andie Daysinton#6666: Dayum
uoʇsodɾ#2412: No. You don't need to solder anything to make an open loop. J2C stated that the raiderator fin stack is solder to the tubes in the raiderator. Most of the work is just leak testing. Soft tube is easer to work with and parts like the CPU and GPU are easer to replace when soft tubing is used. Hard tubing can provide a better flow rate and look better overall.
Andie Daysinton#6666: his wording made it sound like it
Andie Daysinton#6666: /convert 420 eur dkk
Currency Converter Bot#4703: DKK 3129.229829
Alcyone#2233: @Muse no, only p67, z68, z75 and z77
Alcyone#2233: I think some B75 can do multiplier with a k sku, or could on certain bios
Lumaterian#3557: there are some™️ B and H series boards that can OC pre-skylake
Lumaterian#3557: however they're limited to certain bios and/or certain settings |
Alcyone#2233: haswell had some, 1155 im not sure about
Lumaterian#3557: I had a H97M Pro4 that could OC
Lumaterian#3557: yeah 1155 I've never seen one
Lumaterian#3557: but I would assume they exist
Alcyone#2233: i think asrock and ecs might have done it with b75
Alcyone#2233: but they would have limited options and not be able to do the limited unlock on non-k
Lumaterian#3557: ye probs
Muse#0557: Apparently h67 can
Muse#0557: But its close to useless
wiryfuture🦀#1706: is this an alright motherboard? https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-PRIME-B450M-Socket-Motherboard/dp/B07F6YQV4J/ref=psdc_430512031_t1_B07K787MXX
Muse#0557: For the price its good
wiryfuture🦀#1706: alright
wiryfuture🦀#1706: because I'm not liking how 'gamer-y' this one feels https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07K787MXX/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3D7TQR4Z7I45&psc=1
wiryfuture🦀#1706: and it's a bit more expensive than that asus one
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I really want that extra fan header |
Muse#0557: Splitter?
Lumaterian#3557: you want to get an MSI for B450
Muse#0557: That board looks gross ngl
Lumaterian#3557: best bang for the buck for decent boards
wiryfuture🦀#1706: > Splitter?
@Muse a splitter from the back of the case to the front?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: no way
wiryfuture🦀#1706: how would I even cable manage that
Muse#0557: Its not that hard
Muse#0557: Or a fan hub
Lumaterian#3557: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07WC724Z7 this one is usually pretty good price
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729467830457729024/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: uh
Lumaterian#3557: yeah I saw that
Lumaterian#3557: but check non-amazon retailers |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: last time i ordered something that was dispatched within a month it never came :Hahahahaha:
wiryfuture🦀#1706: £8 more for ccl computers
wiryfuture🦀#1706: that board still costs more than the asus board I just showed tho
Muse#0557: Both are valid options
TheFifthAce#4128: pro vdh is nice
Andie Daysinton#6666: @mi3night lets talk here
Muse#0557: No
Muse#0557: Go away
Muse#0557: Stink
Andie Daysinton#6666: $450 for a 2080 FE 8 GB Ram
mi3night#2562: Jesus
mi3night#2562: Pic?
mi3night#2562: If it’s a blower card get a aftermarket cooler
Andie Daysinton#6666: https://www.ebay.com/itm/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-FE-2080-8GB-GDDR6-Graphics-Card/274418410677?hash=item3fe49ca4b5:g:mIgAAOSwVe1fAQ8P
Andie Daysinton#6666: ITS an FE = Founders Edition |
TheFifthAce#4128: thats
TheFifthAce#4128: bid
TheFifthAce#4128: with 4 days left
TheFifthAce#4128: its not going to stay anywhere near $450
Muse#0557: ._.
Muse#0557: Rookie mistake
mi3night#2562: Yeah it’s gonna go to like $650
Andie Daysinton#6666: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-Gaming-GeForce-RTX-2080-AMP-Graphics-Card-Open-Box/383419811970?epid=6030649271&hash=item59459a0882%3Ag%3AP8sAAOSwGAheRd7p&LH_BIN=1
TheFifthAce#4128: I mean its a zotac open box
TheFifthAce#4128: thats from the manufacturer
TheFifthAce#4128: thats their ebay page
Muse#0557: Pretty neat
wiryfuture🦀#1706: so.. does a VRM heatsink make a big difference?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07F6YQV4J/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2OAJ7377F756P&psc=1
wiryfuture🦀#1706: The asus board doesn't have one |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: unless it's a more power demanding cpu, it shouldn't matter too much, right?
Andie Daysinton#6666: https://www.ebay.com/itm/MSI-GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-Armor-11GB-OC-Graphics-Card/203039777472?epid=3010848654&hash=item2f461d22c0%3Ag%3AhFgAAOSwSTFfAPdM&LH_BIN=1
Muse#0557: Looks fine just remember that armor cards are the most likely to be mining cards
Andie Daysinton#6666: It says new
Andie Daysinton#6666: So should i trust it
Andie Daysinton#6666: or Keep Looking
Muse#0557: Id trust it
Andie Daysinton#6666: Okay
Andie Daysinton#6666: And if it has been a mining card i might as well liquid cool it 🙂
Andie Daysinton#6666: and now i got a crazy idea
Muse#0557: I dont think it has man
Muse#0557: I just said check
TheFifthAce#4128: @wiryfuture🦀 d o n o t b u y a n a s u s p r i m e
Andie Daysinton#6666: I can get it
Andie Daysinton#6666: EK |
Andie Daysinton#6666: Has a Cooler Kit for it
Andie Daysinton#6666: but should i have it on 2 loops or 1
Andie Daysinton#6666: So Like Tank, Cpu, Cooler, Gpu, 2nd Cooler, Tank
Andie Daysinton#6666: or Tank 1, Cpu, Cooler, Tank.
Tank 2, Gpu, Cooler 2, Tank.
Andie Daysinton#6666: i was thinking a continous loop
Andie Daysinton#6666: wouldn't be bad
mi3night#2562: @Andie Daysinton it's usually cheaper if u buy everything separately than from a kit. Also what kit are u looking at?
Andie Daysinton#6666: By kit i meant EK Sells what i need like plates
Andie Daysinton#6666: and Tubing
Andie Daysinton#6666: and tanks
Andie Daysinton#6666: and yes they have kits
Andie Daysinton#6666: but i am planning every little detail on my system
Andie Daysinton#6666: but air cooling as a start
Andie Daysinton#6666: Like what part to use and Where and if to run Dual Graphics or not |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: > @wiryfuture🦀 d o n o t b u y a n a s u s p r i m e
@TheFifthAce what have you got against it?
TheFifthAce#4128: its garbage
wiryfuture🦀#1706: why
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
wiryfuture🦀#1706: give me reasons
TheFifthAce#4128: no
TheFifthAce#4128: :uwupip:
TheFifthAce#4128: bad board
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729489420100698142/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729489462718890094/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: lots of people disagree
wiryfuture🦀#1706: @TheFifthAce would you rather I get this shite? https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07K787MXX/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3D7TQR4Z7I45&psc=1
mi3night#2562: @wiryfuture🦀 asus prime b450?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: what? |
mi3night#2562: The asus prime b450 is a pos
mi3night#2562: No vrm headsink
mi3night#2562: It’s literally a prebuild mobo
wiryfuture🦀#1706: can't be worse than the intel mobo i'm using :haha:
mi3night#2562: also asus low end boards are shit
mi3night#2562: if u didnt know that
mi3night#2562: at least before x570\
TheFifthAce#4128: the b450m gaming is a much better mobo
mi3night#2562: x570 prime is actually decent
TheFifthAce#4128: ignoring gigabyte bios being kinda hinge
wiryfuture🦀#1706: alright then
Foxious#1859: You know when the onboard graphics are terrible when the bottleneck is this horrible in tf2 with the I5 3570K https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729647392051167252/20200706_1335381.jpg
Foxious#1859: 15 fps... Mmnh i really need to get a gpu for this secondary pc
wiryfuture🦀#1706: my life was a mistake https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729665935635382282/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: at least the price is.. |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: nice
wiryfuture🦀#1706: tfw you run out of thermal grizzly :crome:
Foxious#1859: thermal grizzly
Foxious#1859: wasnt that one of the best thermal paste brands?
Foxious#1859: I just use ARCTIC MX-4 - 2019 Edition
Foxious#1859: and Cooler Master MasterGel Pro
Foxious#1859: depends which i have on hand
EmperorOfFinland#9257: So i was wondering if im hosting gameservers and maybe a webpage on a server is xeon x3440 4c 8t at 2.50ghz or xeon E5-2620 dualsocket 6c 12t (12c 24t) at 1.9ghz better for hosting?
Deleted User#0000: the e5-2620 should be faster in both single and multicore performance since it's a second gen xeon vs a first gen xeon, sandybridge improved the ipc quite dramaticly so even at lower clocks it performs better
Deleted User#0000: add the extra cores to the mix and another extra cpu and it's rather obvious that the e5-2620 build should be much faster yet more expensive
EmperorOfFinland#9257: Its e5-2620 0
EmperorOfFinland#9257: Not v2 or v3
EmperorOfFinland#9257: But that probably is ivy and haswell respectively
EmperorOfFinland#9257: The x3440 system has 12gb of ram. This dualsocket has 40gb
Deleted User#0000: that extra ram should help as well |
Deleted User#0000: what's the price for both kits?
EmperorOfFinland#9257: X3440 was free
EmperorOfFinland#9257: E5-2620 is 85€
EmperorOfFinland#9257: 45 for the system and 40€ for ram
Deleted User#0000: uuuu, alright, if the e5-2620 includes a working motherboard, both cpus and the ram I would say it's a great deal
EmperorOfFinland#9257: It does
EmperorOfFinland#9257: I just tested it
Deleted User#0000: is it a branded motherboard though?
Deleted User#0000: some socket 2011 boards are chinese, while those work fine for the most part, they're pretty cheap
EmperorOfFinland#9257: Dell poweredge r420
EmperorOfFinland#9257: I have r310 as the xeon x3440 system
EmperorOfFinland#9257: Both dell
Deleted User#0000: I see, It should be a good deal then, a dual e5 system should have at least 3 times more raw performance than the x3440 system on it's own
EmperorOfFinland#9257: Yeah and that is good
EmperorOfFinland#9257: I can always replace the cpus on it though for faster ones. The cpus barely cost anything |
EmperorOfFinland#9257: Id figure better cpus would cost like 10-40€ per piece
EmperorOfFinland#9257: Ones that clock higher.
Deleted User#0000: unlocked ones can be more expensive, but yes, most of them are priced in that range
EmperorOfFinland#9257: Well i cant oc on a server motherboard though 😛
Deleted User#0000: the most expensive part of a build like that is the motherboard
EmperorOfFinland#9257: I would pick vetter cpus for more performance or more cores
EmperorOfFinland#9257: Old xeons are dirt cheap now
Deleted User#0000: Indeed, the main problem is usually the motherboard
Deleted User#0000: but since the price of that system is good it wont be a problem for you
EmperorOfFinland#9257: Yeah
EmperorOfFinland#9257: I got into servers since i got 2x x3440 systems for free
EmperorOfFinland#9257: With ram on both of then
EmperorOfFinland#9257: + harddrives
Deleted User#0000: uuu you're pretty lucky
EmperorOfFinland#9257: 1x 4tb and 1x 3.3tb was broken 2x 500gb and 1x4tb was intact |
EmperorOfFinland#9257: I took the 4tb to main machine
EmperorOfFinland#9257: Also i got some addoncards on them
EmperorOfFinland#9257: Like 1gb lan and stuff like that
EmperorOfFinland#9257: Lowprofile hd 5450 radeon
EmperorOfFinland#9257: This one has hotswappable hdd and hotswappable powersupplies
EmperorOfFinland#9257: I think thouse are quite valuable
EmperorOfFinland#9257: On the dual socket system
wiryfuture🦀#1706: > Dell poweredge r420
@EmperorOfFinland iirc from what cobs once said, I don't think that gen has html5 idrac
EmperorOfFinland#9257: And what that means
wiryfuture🦀#1706: To use the remote console, you have to use a java client
wiryfuture🦀#1706: which isn't too great lol
EmperorOfFinland#9257: I wont be remoteing to it i think
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it's really useful
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729709213777002556/unknown.png |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: you don't have to plug a monitor to the server to do stuff
Andie Daysinton#6666: is Bridgeless SLI Worth it sorry for asking
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Is SLI ever worth it?
Andie Daysinton#6666: maybe
Andie Daysinton#6666: but i am asking if bridgeless is
Andie Daysinton#6666: 2way
Andie Daysinton#6666: worth it
MythologicalZ#3752: No
MythologicalZ#3752: Cant think of any actually good cards that are even bridgeless
MythologicalZ#3752: unless youre talking differentsliauto which is garbage for daily use
wiryfuture🦀#1706: lol https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729710234330857532/unknown.png
Andie Daysinton#6666: because i am Thinking of getting 2 1080 TIs
MythologicalZ#3752: those are not bridgeless
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: hello
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: and look myth is here |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: he should know better
Andie Daysinton#6666: no my 1060 is so i had to scrap that in my upgrade plans
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @kasey unblock jesse
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yes
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Oh different channel
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: he trying to post
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: thats basically the summary of his problem
Andie Daysinton#6666: @MythologicalZ myth does it have to be same model and manufacturers or what to play proper nice
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @kasey unblock jesse did it work before bios update
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yeah
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: then after it didnt or...
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I updated the bios months ago to
MythologicalZ#3752: no, can be different models @Andie Daysinton
Andie Daysinton#6666: and manufacturers
Andie Daysinton#6666: So Say i get a Zotac and a Gigabyte 1080 ti they should play nice |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: just to make sure when u clear cmos u have clear cmos pins or do u remove battery???@kasey unblock jesse
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah should be fine
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Like i said @the aggresive toilet flusher everything worked fine a couple hours ago
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I have a button
MythologicalZ#3752: but dont go sli
kasey unblock jesse#0395: That clears cmos
MythologicalZ#3752: rather buy wait for new gen rtx or rdna 2
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: neat
MythologicalZ#3752: because mgpu is dead
MythologicalZ#3752: unless super high res gaming and willing to waste time with nv inspector to get profiles working
Andie Daysinton#6666: I was thinking of using one For Stream/VR/Game
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: u said months correct?
Andie Daysinton#6666: and the other Video edit
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yeah everything worked fine like this for litteral months
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: maybe just some dust in ram socket give it a little clean |
MythologicalZ#3752: are you doing both at the same time?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Im sure its not that @the aggresive toilet flusher
Andie Daysinton#6666: Not always But it happens
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: if there is dust
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Its not dirty at all it got cleaned not so long ago
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: its the dust
MythologicalZ#3752: too infrequent then, just stick to a single card
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: still try giving the ram sockets a clean
kasey unblock jesse#0395: With what tho?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Gotta go to the store and get some compressed air
Andie Daysinton#6666: Yup
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Or just buy an air compresser
Andie Daysinton#6666: NO
MythologicalZ#3752: and if you get am4 without 8-8 on pcie layout youre just cucking yourself
MythologicalZ#3752: because 4x holds back the card |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: dont need to just use something to brush it with i personally have this paint brush
Andie Daysinton#6666: What do you mean myth
kasey unblock jesse#0395: All i got are 4 year old used paint brushes lmao
MythologicalZ#3752: the pcie layout
Andie Daysinton#6666: Gigabyte Aorus Ultra @MythologicalZ
MythologicalZ#3752: b550?
Andie Daysinton#6666: X570
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: uuu toothbrush??
MythologicalZ#3752: x570 ultra has sli
MythologicalZ#3752: so in theory youre fine
MythologicalZ#3752: but like
Andie Daysinton#6666: My Reason is not to show off or anything
MythologicalZ#3752: sli has been essentially dead for years and its a lot of money to drop on something that dont use constantly
Andie Daysinton#6666: Well 2 GPUs One For Work and Monitors and the other for Play
kasey unblock jesse#0395: @the aggresive toilet flusher |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Its not dust
MythologicalZ#3752: I would say dont go for it, in this day and age single card solution is just more practical
MythologicalZ#3752: less heat, less issues etc etc
Andie Daysinton#6666: okay
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Last option i got is swapping the cpu out right?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but like the cpu wouldnt just refuse to work if its been while
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: like i still think its dust
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I just dont get it at all
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Like it worked fine a couple hours ago
Andie Daysinton#6666: @MythologicalZ well i can't wait to deliver my verdict on the Oculus Quest
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: could be gpu
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: check 6 pin maybe?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I tried 2 gpus
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: bruh
kasey unblock jesse#0395: The fans spin |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: The 8 pin on it looks fine
Andie Daysinton#6666: did it sit loose
Andie Daysinton#6666: or firm
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Not loose not to firm
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Like it had a lil wiggle
Andie Daysinton#6666: Ehhh
Andie Daysinton#6666: it ain't Supposed to wiggle
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Also tried different pci e slots
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: it should still post unless its been sagging for those months
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Ur talking about the gpu or the 8 pin?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: the gpu
Andie Daysinton#6666: 8 pin
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It doesnt sag
kasey unblock jesse#0395: The 8pin is tight
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: cursed pc |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Like for real
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Its just fucked
Andie Daysinton#6666: Try telling that to wallmart who sold gamerpcs with loose 8 pin
kasey unblock jesse#0395: 2 gpus both tried in 2 different pci slots and it doesnt work
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Lmao
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: very unlikely but i saw this once
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I think i give up
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: try unplugging sata
kasey unblock jesse#0395: If its sata
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Imma just trow it out the windoe
Andie Daysinton#6666: OMG
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: like just one time i saw this with sata
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but thats very unlikely
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Lmao my lawn chair just flew through my garden
Andie Daysinton#6666: Windy ? |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I unplugged all usb devices but didnt bother to do sata
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Even unplugged my sound card
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: bruh
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Kind of windy
Andie Daysinton#6666: *Facepalm*
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: why
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Bruh i am not smart k
Andie Daysinton#6666: No shit when a Lawnchair Flies
Andie Daysinton#6666: it is windy LUL
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: is this related to the pc
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Its a cheap light plastic one
kasey unblock jesse#0395: The problem isnt sata
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: wellp
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: atleast u didnt throw it
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Cpu it is? |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Like its my only geus
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: check ram one last time
kasey unblock jesse#0395: What should i do with ram
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: either mobo or cpu at this point
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: a gooooood clean
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Like i have tried all possible combinations
kasey unblock jesse#0395: And did a brush thingy
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Lmao time to go to the store and get a can or compressed air
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: like iso alchohol maybe?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: to the ram
kasey unblock jesse#0395: And alchohol
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: Bruh
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > Lmao time to go to the store and get a can or compressed air
@kasey unblock jesse try
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Stuff runs out u know |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I litteraly have no spare parts exept old or worse ones
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: like if its for sure not ram or gpu or any fincky stuff plugged in could be cpu or mobo
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: which isnt good
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Gotta buy a laptop and schoolbooks so a new pc isnt coming
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Im positive its not ram
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: and uve used this ram before right?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yes man
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Like this entire rig was working fine
kasey unblock jesse#0395: All night
kasey unblock jesse#0395: And the last couple months
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: can u plug in these little speaker dudats?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: the ones that beep
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: maybe will get a usefull beep code
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I think i have one of those somewhere why?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Ah |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Well let me see if i got one of them
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: unless u have fancy code screen
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: or led lights on mobo
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Got a couple leds but they are not bright enough rn hold up
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: see if cpu lights up
kasey unblock jesse#0395: OOOF
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: what?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Bright red led on cpu the second i turn it on
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: r
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: p
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I still got an old i7 thats 1336 not sure if it works but its worth a shot
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: and it works with the ram u have?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yeah
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: u had a xeon so u i assume u had ecc ram or some shit |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Its what i used before i swapped it with a xeon a couple months ago
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: so ur sure its gonna work?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > Its what i used before i swapped it with a xeon a couple months ago
@kasey unblock jesse nice
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: try that
kasey unblock jesse#0395: So yeah it should work if the cpu work
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But it could also be the mobo idk
kasey unblock jesse#0395: The old i7 got a linus tech tips treatment once
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i think its cpu since lighted up but who knows
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yesh
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But all the other leds dont even lit up
kasey unblock jesse#0395: So idk if its anything else either
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > The old i7 got a linus tech tips treatment once
wym
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It got dropped a long time ago |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: sanity check cpu 8 pin
kasey unblock jesse#0395: So 50/50 right
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: idk
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: like it did work after the drop
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Hmm ill check 8pin yeah
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but linuses imdeatly lost like half lanes
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: :GWlulurdMegaLul:
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Lmao
kasey unblock jesse#0395: He drops everything
kasey unblock jesse#0395: This one got yeeted and landed on a corner tho
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but didnt linuses too?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > This one got yeeted and landed on a corner tho
@kasey unblock jesse haha imagine using amd :epicgamer: :epicgamer: :epicgamer:
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: rip cpu
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I dont know |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Oof pins
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: same thing to an amd cpu would be a real linus moment
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Didnt linus break like a 64 core xeon once?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Or an i9 10th gen
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I just know he broke a reaal expensive one not so long ago
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: a 10k$ xeon but i think a 24 core
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yeah
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: it was expensive at the time
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I have no concept of time
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: soooo
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: the 8 pin
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yeah
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Gotta remove my cooler to get to it
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: huh
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: why would u ever need to do this |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Thats a dusty cooler
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Cuz its in a shit spot thats why
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: like pc building process should go cpu , cooler , 8 pin
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: now u cant unplug 8 pin
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: bruh
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It was so much trouble i just got an 8 pin extender so i could easily work with it
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But its been there so long i didnt realize i had an extender there
kasey unblock jesse#0395: If its that shitty thing
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ok now i kinda hope it was 8 pin
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Ill still yeet it
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: cause this is weird
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > But its been there so long i didnt realize i had an extender there
@kasey unblock jesse could it be the extender?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: idk
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Lmao |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: The led fan on my cooler attracks musquitos
kasey unblock jesse#0395: There like 8 in my cooler
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Gotta clean that
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: guess we know how the pc died
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: :Hahahahaha:
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: its not cpu
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: no
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: its musquitos
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I got 2 8 pin slots
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: beefy
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Should i try a different one from normal?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: wait u dont plug both????
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: plug both
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Lmao
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: like it should boot |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: My psu doesnt have 2
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: with one
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but try both
kasey unblock jesse#0395: The second one is for extreme oc i think
kasey unblock jesse#0395: How do i plug both when i got 1 8 pin??
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > My psu doesnt have 2
@kasey unblock jesse uuuu if the second gpu needs no power put pcie power 8 pin
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > The second one is for extreme oc i think
@kasey unblock jesse ye think so
kasey unblock jesse#0395: The mobo supports ln2
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: wel like its not "supports" it just should have a decent enough pcb
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Ight gotta put the cooler back on real quick to test 8 pin
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It has a 4 pin thing
kasey unblock jesse#0395: With a cap on it that you switch to turn it on
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It says ln2 mode |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: hmmm
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: could be extreme oc mode
MythologicalZ#3752: it is
MythologicalZ#3752: leave it alone
MythologicalZ#3752: unlocks more voltage settings and on some gens boosts stock
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Lmao
MythologicalZ#3752: which you dont want happening
kasey unblock jesse#0395: No i dont
MythologicalZ#3752: what board is it
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I dont mess with pins which i got no idea of what they do
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Asus rampage 3 extreme
MythologicalZ#3752: ahhh 1366
Muse#0557: 1366
MythologicalZ#3752: its your memory or dead gpu
MythologicalZ#3752: never anything else |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Not gpu
MythologicalZ#3752: unless youve been running auto oc mode, might be your cpu if it fried itself
kasey unblock jesse#0395: The mobos led for cpu lights up bright red
MythologicalZ#3752: otherwise just keep messing with ram
kasey unblock jesse#0395: No dont have auto oc
MythologicalZ#3752: clear cmos, reseat
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: muse and myth are here u have tech helpers and a lvl 1 crook this pc better boot :Hahahahaha:
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > clear cmos , reseat
he did
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I did all of that
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Did clear cmos on 2 different bioses and i have fucking tried all possible ram combinations positions and each stick indiviu
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Individually
Muse#0557: And it doesnt post?
Muse#0557: Sorry i cant find what exactly is happening in the heap of flushers crap <3
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ~~and cpu led is on~~ |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > Sorry i cant find what exactly is happening in the heap of flushers crap <3
@Muse tell me to flush it
kasey unblock jesse#0395: In bright red
MythologicalZ#3752: what cpu is it
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: a xeon but he mentioned it worked b4
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: dont remember the model obvs
MythologicalZ#3752: there are two gens on 1366
Muse#0557: X55
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: it worked b4
Muse#0557: And x56
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: what ? isnt x58 a thing
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah but if hes on backup bios with a 32nm xeon it might not be posting because old version
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Xeon x5650
kasey unblock jesse#0395: It litteraly worked last evening fine
MythologicalZ#3752: what bios are you on rn |
MythologicalZ#3752: 1 or 2
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I have an updated bios and the original bios (dual bios) and i have tried both
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Cleared cmos on both
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Currently on 2
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Btw its not the 8pin @the aggresive toilet flusher
MythologicalZ#3752: switch back to bios 1
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: it was just a sanity check :P
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Done
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Led still bright red
kasey unblock jesse#0395: No post
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Not yet adleast
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Nah no post
Muse#0557: You haven't bent any pins have you?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: No
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Like i said. It worked fine last night |
MythologicalZ#3752: either cpu or board gone then
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: its the damn mosquitos
MythologicalZ#3752: could try reflash again
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: im teling u :Hahahahaha:
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I think its mosquitos man
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Has to be
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: :Hahahahaha:
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Nah but lets hope its the cpu then
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: bug spray pc :epicgamer:
MythologicalZ#3752: do you have a 920 or something to test with?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Exaclty what i have
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: he did mention he does have an olde-
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ye
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But unsure if it still works
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: give it a try |
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah, if no post, board
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Or old cpu
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: mosquitos
kasey unblock jesse#0395: That has been dropped
MythologicalZ#3752: :haha:
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah being dropped might also be the case
kasey unblock jesse#0395: The 920 was dropped
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Not the xeon
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah I get that
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: out here fullfilling linus legacy
MythologicalZ#3752: dont remount your cooler fully, just put some paste and press down/let it stand
kasey unblock jesse#0395: I mean
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: cause mounting pressure ?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Remounting takes like 5 seconds but ok
MythologicalZ#3752: just to save time but if its an aio or simple air cooler do whatever |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: aio on 1366 naaahhhh
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: think probably ded by now
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: if it ever existed
kasey unblock jesse#0395: No no those exist
MythologicalZ#3752: aios have been around for ages
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: well it would be dead by now
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yay got thermal nut on myhands
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: pump fail , corossion all sorts of stuff
MythologicalZ#3752: would have been shit like h40 back then
MythologicalZ#3752: or old gen h60 come to think of it
Muse#0557: Ive seen 775 aios
Muse#0557: Sooo
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Did 775 even get that hot?
Muse#0557: Yes
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: pentiun d watercooled when |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: 360 mm rad
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Everything is in
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Welp
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Red light
kasey unblock jesse#0395: No post
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: with the 920?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Yeah
kasey unblock jesse#0395: How tf does a mobo die overnight
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: its the damn mosqiutos
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Like i really wonder
Muse#0557: 🦟
MythologicalZ#3752: 10 year old part
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Eh imma just give up
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Wont be able to buy a new pc for a while so rip gaming away the lockdown
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: try resting bios after changing cpu |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: might post
MythologicalZ#3752: flip it on ebay to a tard
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Hmm broken mobo very good
MythologicalZ#3752: mention the cpu error, if the pins are fine some f00l will snap it up
MythologicalZ#3752: epsecially a rampage
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Eh
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Im better of getting rid of it
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Didnt work btw @the aggresive toilet flusher
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: bug spray it is
kasey unblock jesse#0395: What socker is a xeon e5620
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Socket*
MythologicalZ#3752: 1366
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Hmm
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Someone is selling an hp z400
Pretty cheap |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: With a e5620 in it
Andie Daysinton#6666: Well
Andie Daysinton#6666: 1060 6GB goes for new Price with No Box
Andie Daysinton#6666: O_o
wiryfuture🦀#1706: steam good https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729731321617973348/unknown.png
kasey unblock jesse#0395: @the aggresive toilet flusher well it looks like im getting a new motherboard. Thanks for the help anyways
mi3night#2562: @kasey unblock jesse 775?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: 1366
mi3night#2562: How much u paying for a new mobo?
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Not alot
mi3night#2562: Like $50?
mi3night#2562: If that then yeah
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Probably around that mark
kasey unblock jesse#0395: Tech is expensive in my country
kasey unblock jesse#0395: But a used 1366 mobo should not be more then €75 |
kasey unblock jesse#0395: So ill get a good deal
mi3night#2562: Yeah I mean 1366 is a pretty obsolete architecture so yeah
mi3night#2562: But eh if u think u can use it for more years then go ahead
D.D.M#8226: well i would recommend you get an i7 if you can as the i3s or lower end i5s would for more modern tasks
DarknessFalls229#2286: mmmm i3s and i5s on 1366, nice
D.D.M#8226: oh shoot
D.D.M#8226: uhh ignore what i said
Deleted User#0000: low clocked 6 core xeons are usually pretty cheap on the 1366 platform
Deleted User#0000: if you're looking for a "budget 1366 cpu" that's the closest you can get I guess
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah, something like a X5650 is usually pretty good price to performance, especially if its supported and overclockable on your particular mobo
DarknessFalls229#2286: but the lack of some modern instruction sets might not let a small amount of new games work
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729792296194670662/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729792326284738600/unknown.png
mi3night#2562: I think that’s cobs
mi3night#2562: 420% |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: wouldn't be surprised
Bertie Kemp#1114: This is my laptop: FLEX-14API Laptop (Lenovo) - Type 81SS. Will any 20v DC power supply charge it? The only specs i've found say it needs to be 20v 50-60hz sine wave, does that basically mean if it outputs 20v it will be fine?
Bertie Kemp#1114: Also does my laptop support type C charging?
mi3night#2562: @TheFifthAce this guy needs Lenovo laptop help
Ranvie#5623: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729909149080485908/20200707_105732.jpg
Ranvie#5623: Are these bent pins beyond restoration?
Lumaterian#3557: only if they break
Muse#0557: It looks like they will break when bent back up
Muse#0557: One if basically at a right angle
Ranvie#5623: So, getting new CPU seems to be a better decision?
Muse#0557: Give it try first obviously
Ranvie#5623: Okay
Muse#0557: Take your time
Ranvie#5623: Oh, it had gone worse. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729921673788391454/JPEG_20200707_114744.jpg
Ranvie#5623: Nvm Athlon X2 are pretty cheap nowadays |
Racey#8574: I usually just lightly slide a card between the pins so it'll even them out
Racey#8574: make sure to slide it on the sides where it's not bent directly towards where you're sliding since it'll break them off
Ranvie#5623: Thanks
Ranvie#5623: I have been using a slot screwdriver for the whole time
Ranvie#5623: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/729933912037523467/20200707_123618.jpg
Ranvie#5623: Is it technically legal to use laptop Windows OEM keys on another computer?
Foxious#1859: Dosent really help as it still wont activate
Foxious#1859: you can get into windows but then it will start to limit your features as it gets to know that that code has already been activated, soon as the device gets connected
Racey#8574: if the code is in use at the exact moment it checks then it will deactivate both computers that are using the key
mi3night#2562: What’s a good 1440p 144hz ips panel ?
Foxious#1859: That is very price dependent
Foxious#1859: like there are decent panels for 150 euros and there are good panels for 300
Aspire#9354: guys, a friend of mine sent me his pc because the monitor wasnt displaying anything, after i found out it was the motherboard, I asked him to pay for the motherboard and told him if he ever wanna upgrade his pc since its running a a4 5300 apu, 2gb's ddr3 and a traditional drive with windows 7
Aspire#9354: he accepted to upgrade it aswell but he can only choose one
Aspire#9354: either the ssd(which ill put win10) or add another 2 or 4GB's of ram |
Aspire#9354: which is better I need help deciding
Muse#0557: Dont replace a tragic motherboard
Aspire#9354: why?
Muse#0557: I5 2400, h61 and 6gb of ddr3 shouldn't be too much
Aspire#9354: ??
Muse#0557: An a4 5300 is extremely weak and the socket has no good cpus
Muse#0557: Its a waste of money
Aspire#9354: he has little money @Muse
Muse#0557: Ik i kept that in mind with my recommendation
Aspire#9354: he could only afford getting ram or ssd and motherboard
Aspire#9354: but where to choose, ram or ssd
Muse#0557: He cant save up £50 or so?
Aspire#9354: i think not
Muse#0557: A replace board and ssd would cost about 50
Muse#0557: So thats not adding up |
Aspire#9354: oh
Aspire#9354: oh wait
Aspire#9354: he can but he cannot upgrade the cpu @Muse
Muse#0557: Youre not making sense
Aspire#9354: so motherboard and ssd for now? @Muse
Muse#0557: ...
Muse#0557: How much money do they have
Aspire#9354: lemme ask
Aspire#9354: @Muse $73
Aspire#9354: i converted it from php
Muse#0557: Get a 1155 i5
Muse#0557: 1155 motherboard
Muse#0557: And a stick of 4gb ddr3 ram
Foxious#1859: What is php? because if i know what region he is from, i can help to find something good
SuSSudio#2688: Philippines |
Muse#0557: Ima guess its filipino
Foxious#1859: hm
Foxious#1859: excellent
Foxious#1859: cheers mates, problem is that philippino tech scene is quite expensive, aint it?
Muse#0557: I still wouldn't buy another board on that garbage platform
Foxious#1859: So after tiny bit of digging, i found out that you can buy quite cheap motherboards on the 1150 from china
Foxious#1859: but after shipping i imagine he would only have money for a celeron before he gets enough money to upgrade something like I5 4670
Muse#0557: 1155 are probably also cheap
Foxious#1859: yes but the processors are way more
Foxious#1859: actually no
Foxious#1859: sorry i confused
Foxious#1859: that is also a decent bet
Muse#0557: 1155 is the best bang for buck rn
Foxious#1859: the secondary pc i got for 20 euro has a 3570K and it is quite good
Foxious#1859: its still way more powerful than something like a pentium g4560, but they cost about the same |
Muse#0557: A 2400 is leagues better than the a4
Foxious#1859: interestingly when i search from asia via ebay, 2500 and 3570 are about the same price
Aspire#9354: Im back
Aspire#9354: @Muse I wouldnt allow going for that
Aspire#9354: cuz its expensive
Aspire#9354: also my friend is not gonna play games or something
Aspire#9354: its just basic task and stuff
Aspire#9354: but he will tell me in the future to upgrade his cpu
Aspire#9354: for now he just needs a fm2 motherboard and ram or ssd
Aspire#9354: i know u guys want me to upgrade his rig to a i5 or something but he or i aint paying a hefty fine here
Aspire#9354: also if my english is kinda bad or my sentence is bad, apologize
EmperorOfFinland#9257: so i have Dell PowerEdge R420 System but i dont get it to see my harddrives for some reason, i did some googling and for some reason i cannot get them to show. so probably i have to update the bios for the machine. has anyone else has this problem when sas/sata disks are not being readed on the machine?
EmperorOfFinland#9257: the internal PERC controller is not being shown for some reason.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i got it fixed
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i changed the cable from sas port to sata port |
EmperorOfFinland#9257: as the board has 2 sas ports and 1 sata port on it
Foxious#1859: Could somebody figure out how much was this Scythe SCKC 2100 new?
Foxious#1859: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730037362742263868/oyzgYMoP3yWDorAqFpzsMe-320-80.png
Foxious#1859: Its excellent at cooling, is quiet and bloody huge
Foxious#1859: but i would like to know how much it was, its from around 2012
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730101091244703834/unknown.png
D.D.M#8226: How does it even stay like that
Abe.#3344: I know this sounds a little dumb, but would it be possible to use a 3950x with an Asrock B450M Pro 4?
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah but its not a good idea
Abe.#3344: Not enough power?
MythologicalZ#3752: like it wont go 970 krait but you'll want a fan
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah vrm is pretty weak
Abe.#3344: Mmmmmmmmm
Abe.#3344: I have a good deal lined up, but I can't afford a 3950x and new mobo
MythologicalZ#3752: you can run it on the pro4 just fine but its not ideal |
MythologicalZ#3752: so better start saving for a better board if possible
EmperorOfFinland#9257: you should save up for like 150-200€ board with good vrams
EmperorOfFinland#9257: ASUS prime-P X570 is barebones but has good vrams on it.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: but there might be better boards out there for the price
Abe.#3344: I also need a new GPU to go with it and then more ram, so idk if I can afford all of this lmao
Abe.#3344: Ugh, and I need a cooler for it toooooo
Abe.#3344: What's the cheapest cooler I could use?
EmperorOfFinland#9257: if you dont cool your 3950X you can forget about reaching boostclocks.
Abe.#3344: DRP4?
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i would not cheap out on the cooler
EmperorOfFinland#9257: if youre spending 3950X money already
Abe.#3344: I don't actually have said money, I'm working a job I despise just for it
Abe.#3344: And a 2080/70 super
EmperorOfFinland#9257: well
EmperorOfFinland#9257: that is going to cost you 2500-3000€ |
Abe.#3344: More like £1200
EmperorOfFinland#9257: that includes the entire system btw.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: you cant cheap out on motherboard or cooling with that CPU
EmperorOfFinland#9257: youre better get good ram with it in the first place.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: the GPU is going to be 500-900€
Abe.#3344: Would a dark rock pro 4 work?
EmperorOfFinland#9257: depending on the model of choice
EmperorOfFinland#9257: id slap NH-D15 to it.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: that thing gets hot.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: so something comparable
Abe.#3344: It's not that expensive of a cooler, so it should be fine
Abe.#3344: NH-D15 it is
EmperorOfFinland#9257: yeah
EmperorOfFinland#9257: since the fact is
EmperorOfFinland#9257: its going to run hot |
EmperorOfFinland#9257: and dont save too much on motherboard
EmperorOfFinland#9257: you need good powerdelivery for that CPU
Abe.#3344: Craaaaaaaapppp
EmperorOfFinland#9257: its a 750€ CPU what did you realistically expect?
Abe.#3344: I guess I'm running a 3950x with a gtx 960 lmao
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i mean its a bloody 3950x
EmperorOfFinland#9257: and to be honest its better to wait until 3000 series and big navi comes out on october
EmperorOfFinland#9257: than buy GPU now
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i would not buy a new GPU now
Abe.#3344: I'd rather go NVIDIA tho tbh
Abe.#3344: Moonlight is a big +, and Optix is going to get full support in blender at some point
Abe.#3344: Navi still isn't great for Blender right?
Abe.#3344: Something about OpenCL limitations compared to CUDA?
Abe.#3344: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/c7qj5e/am4_vcore_vrm_ratings_to_help_you_decide_on_a/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Abe.#3344: This VRM rating says it could be OK if not overclocked... |
Abe.#3344: I literally can't imagine running a 3950x and a 960 lol
EmperorOfFinland#9257: oh my board needs airflow for itself. for 3950X
EmperorOfFinland#9257: just get a X570 board.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: so you can OC
EmperorOfFinland#9257: it will pay out later.
Abe.#3344: I don't really care about OCing rn tho tbh
EmperorOfFinland#9257: you will eventually do that.
Abe.#3344: Blender doesn't benefit that much from clocks, as it does threads
Abe.#3344: And I'm on a reaaaaall limited budget
Abe.#3344: Like dirt poor lmao
EmperorOfFinland#9257: well
EmperorOfFinland#9257: maybe you should not build a 3950X system then if you cant afford it
EmperorOfFinland#9257: the cpu is out of my priceleague.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i mean saving on specific things is not a wise idea.
Abe.#3344: I'm thinking of using this setup for the next foreseeable future tho |
Abe.#3344: And if I was gaming, I'd agree
Abe.#3344: But this is a productivity system first
EmperorOfFinland#9257: well
Abe.#3344: And 4K editing and Blendering on a 2200g isn't a fun experience
EmperorOfFinland#9257: save up more money
EmperorOfFinland#9257: and get a proper system when 4000 series launches
EmperorOfFinland#9257: what is like 3-6 months away
Abe.#3344: If it launches before Black Friday, I'm in I guess
EmperorOfFinland#9257: it might or it might not.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: depends really.
Abe.#3344: Or if they announce the skews and there's an equally priced high core count beast, I could use that
Abe.#3344: But idk if I'll ever find another £550 3950x either
Abe.#3344: PC building close to releases is the worst
Abe.#3344: Guess I'm making my short film on a 2200g lmao
EmperorOfFinland#9257: well |
EmperorOfFinland#9257: it will come down
EmperorOfFinland#9257: and to be honest a 4000 4900x might be enough for that
uoʇsodɾ#2412: This is part of the reason why RAID does not replace a backup. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730217935876128798/unknown.png
Lady Mipha#0611: oh definitely
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Some people think otherwise here.
Bogi76#3090: ok lads i need a bit of help
Bogi76#3090: so i switched from nvidia gpu
Bogi76#3090: to amd gpu
Bogi76#3090: do i really have to use DDU to uninstall old nvidia gpu drivers IF
Bogi76#3090: the amd driver software hasn't removed it?
Bogi76#3090: i have no graphical instabilities or similar stuff atm
Bogi76#3090: i have yet to test the gpu if it works in games
wiryfuture🦀#1706: > This is part of the reason why RAID does not replace a backup.
@uoʇsodɾ no one has ever said that, everyone said that RAID was reduntant and thinks that it should be used as part of a backup system
D.D.M#8226: Hey guys so i was searching for a laptop thats good enough for some slightly heavier than light games and schoolwork and i found one with a core i5 8300h 8gb ddr4 ram 256gb ssd and a gtx 1650 4gb gddr5. |
D.D.M#8226: Games like Apex Legends and CoD warzone
D.D.M#8226: I also found the same laptop with a i5 10300h
D.D.M#8226: Good enough?
Bisexual Billy#9476: @D.D.M If you have good enough cooling I'd say, yeah that'll do 1080p 60.
Although I think you may want more storage since games are getting to like 80GB nowerdays.
D.D.M#8226: Yeah i am going to ask the shop if it has a hdd slot
D.D.M#8226: If not it has a usb c port so maybe i could store the games there
D.D.M#8226: On an external hdd
mi3night#2562: @D.D.M what brand
D.D.M#8226: Hold up
D.D.M#8226: Let me find it
mi3night#2562: Some laptops like MSI ones let u pop in a hdd in it
D.D.M#8226: Lenovo Y540-15IRH
mi3night#2562: Also i5 8300h and 1650 laptops are worth max $600
mi3night#2562: No no no |
mi3night#2562: Don’t get Lenovo
mi3night#2562: It’s a nightmare
mi3night#2562: Oh it’s y540
mi3night#2562: It’s decent
mi3night#2562: How much?
D.D.M#8226: I heard people say bad things about lenovo but i tried it myself a friend has a nearly the same laptop and it nice
D.D.M#8226: Hold up
mi3night#2562: I used a Lenovo and oh my fucking god
mi3night#2562: It’s a literal oven. Worse than my MacBook
mi3night#2562: T460 hours
D.D.M#8226: About 720€
mi3night#2562: Also if ur looking to buy a gaming laptop for school. Then ur looking at 3-4 hours of battery life max
D.D.M#8226: 45000 Macedonian denars
mi3night#2562: @D.D.M not that great imo
mi3night#2562: Oh |
mi3night#2562: Check out acer nitro
D.D.M#8226: No they dont sell acer nitro laptops in my country
mi3night#2562: Be like that
D.D.M#8226: I only saw a weaker acer nitro but it was unavailable
mi3night#2562: I mean u live in that country idk what to say
BigPierogi#3368: @mi3night what about the t460
mi3night#2562: @BigPierogi oven
BigPierogi#3368: No
mi3night#2562: Yes
BigPierogi#3368: Because mine doesnt get a oven
mi3night#2562: Good for u
mi3night#2562: Mines a fucking oven
BigPierogi#3368: What cpu
mi3night#2562: Perish
BigPierogi#3368: Because mine is a 6300i |
BigPierogi#3368: U*
mi3night#2562: i7 6600u
BigPierogi#3368: Guessing the i7 gets way hotter
D.D.M#8226: Well i am going to get a cooler too just in case
mi3night#2562: Go for it then if u have no other alternatives
BlandishlyPlain#2100: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730489418275749961/unknown.png
BlandishlyPlain#2100: does anyone know how this makes any sense
BigPierogi#3368: Yes it does
BigPierogi#3368: 1 mb/s= 8mbps
BlandishlyPlain#2100: are you being serious
BigPierogi#3368: yes
EmperorOfFinland#9257: yeah it is
EmperorOfFinland#9257: eventhough i have 225mbs download i only get about 25-30mb/s
Andie Daysinton#6666: is it worth it to buy used or is it a minefield tag me
EmperorOfFinland#9257: what as used? |
Andie Daysinton#6666: CPU and Mobo
Andie Daysinton#6666: Amazon
Remperus#2847: See man i really need something for my pc. It is so bad right now. The specs are an AMD Athlon II X4 630 A 8400gs in 2020.. and 4gb of ram. My OS is windows 8 32bit and it makes me have 3gb of ram gaming is so bad i crash. Please help I think i need an upgrade. Or upgrade the specs of my pc. I think i will upgrade my gpu and add 4gb of extra ram. I dont play heavy games honestly.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: i would turn that into a retromachine.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: and get something newer instead.
D.D.M#8226: I mean you could get an am4 mobo, athlon 3000g combo
D.D.M#8226: Ram i am not sure about
EmperorOfFinland#9257: but that wont cut for gaming.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: it needs to be 3300x minimum.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: for optimal highpowergaming.
EmperorOfFinland#9257: wont be too expensive
D.D.M#8226: Well he says he doesn't play heavy games
D.D.M#8226: For League of legends or something like that can do it
EmperorOfFinland#9257: well
EmperorOfFinland#9257: given youre keeping the system for couple years |
EmperorOfFinland#9257: but im speaking strictly western terms in terms of computers
EmperorOfFinland#9257: something for like 500€
D.D.M#8226: Lets just wait for him
EmperorOfFinland#9257: ofc there is the x58 route
EmperorOfFinland#9257: for budget
EmperorOfFinland#9257: cpus are dirt cheap but that system wont be efficient
Bertie Kemp#1114: Can someone help me with a RAM issue?
Bertie Kemp#1114: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730518550338469979/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: 1366 belongs in the retro pile
Bertie Kemp#1114: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730518590763040788/unknown.png
Bertie Kemp#1114: Whats using all my RAM?? Chrome only says its using 1.5gb but somehow over half of it is used?
BigPierogi#3368: i see a lot of stuff in the background
Alcyone#2233: go to proccess and sort by ram usage
Bertie Kemp#1114: I have a few chrome tabs, steam, voicemeeter, discord, msi afterburner and task manager
BigPierogi#3368: youve got more than that |
Bertie Kemp#1114: thats the first pic i sent
BigPierogi#3368: you also got lghub, box sync and gamemanager service
Bertie Kemp#1114: i've noticed it goes up over time and then when i restart it goes back down but slowly starts going up
Bertie Kemp#1114: if i dont have anything open etc, what would make it go up constantly
Bertie Kemp#1114: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/730519325600907274/unknown.png
Bertie Kemp#1114: Thats most of the stuff running, but that doesnt add up to 18GB
Alcyone#2233: not sure
Alcyone#2233: memory leak in a program maybe
Bertie Kemp#1114: Im going through and closing each program, they all seem to reduce it by a tiny bit though, still loads of ram being taken up by nothing
EmperorOfFinland#9257: if its not visible on taskmanager it could also be a virus
EmperorOfFinland#9257: or malware
Bertie Kemp#1114: Thats true
Orphanzombie#3114: which would be better for a server buy a old i5 pc like 2600 or something or a server/workstation tower
Orphanzombie#3114: noise and power are not an issue
Orphanzombie#3114: ideally something around x5650+ for cheap plus ability to put a gpu in |
DarknessFalls229#2286: sidenote: the 2600 is an i7
Orphanzombie#3114: i havent looked back at budget parts in ages
DarknessFalls229#2286: for a server you usually want cores
DarknessFalls229#2286: but if you want to use it for gaming something with high clocks is better
Orphanzombie#3114: yeah i was thinking a poweredge tower with shit cpus and change them for x5650s
DarknessFalls229#2286: sounds like a plan
Orphanzombie#3114: and whack in like 48 or so gbs of ram
Orphanzombie#3114: also is mining with the effort if i dont pay for power
Orphanzombie#3114: or family
DarknessFalls229#2286: dunno, i wouldnt bother to go mining nowadays
Orphanzombie#3114: yeah i remember it being huge a few years ago
EmperorOfFinland#9257: well
EmperorOfFinland#9257: given my experiences you want good clockspeed on the damn thing if you are planning to use it for gaming
EmperorOfFinland#9257: and ipc too
EmperorOfFinland#9257: especially the likes of minecraft |
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