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mi3night#2562: True
mi3night#2562: The gpu is gonna perform like a 1060 cuz the cpu which is a 5257u
Bready_To.Die#8212: @mi3night meh
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Bready_To.Die thats isnt just 32GBs of windows files, its basicly an entire backup of your windows installation
DarknessFalls229#2286: Like when it needs to revert an update it could use that
Bready_To.Die#8212: @DarknessFalls229 it was nuked so whatevs
JustinXenyx#8854: that's not really correct though, especially for windows updates @DarknessFalls229
DarknessFalls229#2286: Yeah, backups can be removed, not gonna hold it against ya
DarknessFalls229#2286: Whats windows doing then justin?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Cause this is how i remember it doing that
JustinXenyx#8854: It depends on how the Windows.old folder was created
JustinXenyx#8854: like windows says, this can be garbage files that would break an update or that aren't needed with a new update
JustinXenyx#8854: But if this folder got created by installing Windows fresh without formatting the drive this is pretty much the previous windows installation
DarknessFalls229#2286: Kinda like an irrevertible backup then, in that particular sense?
Clode#2428: I know pre builts suck |
Clode#2428: But this for 589 € is a good buy?
Clode#2428: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/742328997555470377/20200810_112921.jpg
FantaStick#8008: Doesn't seem that good even by prebuilt standards
Clode#2428: Really?
Clode#2428: For like the same specs or better could it be cheaper?
MythologicalZ#3752: crappy board, likely single channel 8gb stick, nvidia rx 570 essentially and a single 240gb ssd
FantaStick#8008: Yeah I bet you can find that spec for cheaper/ a better system for that price
FantaStick#8008: I don't know EU market very well so grain of salt
Clode#2428: Im thinking abou maybe a ryzen 3 3000x
Clode#2428: Here in Portugal prices are really horrible in comparassion
JustinXenyx#8854: Even then you shouldn't be using an "Azza" 550W 80+ Bronze PSU
FantaStick#8008: Anything is fine as long as it's not a known bomb
FantaStick#8008: Especially on a low end build like that with low power draw
JustinXenyx#8854: > Anything is fine as long as it's not a known bomb
well if this isn't a lot of horseshit |
FantaStick#8008: *ah we've found the PSU snob*
DarknessFalls229#2286: @JustinXenyx do you know what determines the amount of pcie lanes a 775 socket motherboard has?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Cause im a bit puzzled
JustinXenyx#8854: it's related to the north bridge as neither the PCIe or RAM controller were on the CPUs with LGA775
DarknessFalls229#2286: Hmmm interesting
DarknessFalls229#2286: Cause in my non functional crossfire setup 2 cards are running at 16x 2.0 and one at 8x 1.1
DarknessFalls229#2286: Also, what determines if a 775 board is crossfire compatible?
FantaStick#8008: Whether or not they paid the royalties for it / have the lanes for it
DarknessFalls229#2286: Erm, pretty sure crossfire is royalty free
FantaStick#8008: *shrugs*
FantaStick#8008: Then it's just the amount of lanes you've got basically
MythologicalZ#3752: if its intel with 2 pcie it has xfire on 775
MythologicalZ#3752: can only do sli on nvidia chipsets
FantaStick#8008: Is xfire/sli support baked onto the Northbridge on 775?
MythologicalZ#3752: cant do xfire on nvidia either |
BigPierogi#3368: So you can only have 1 or the other?
MythologicalZ#3752: yeah
BigPierogi#3368: br8u
MythologicalZ#3752: from 1366 onwards you can do both
MythologicalZ#3752: since nvidia quit chipsets
FantaStick#8008: Chipset limitations
FantaStick#8008: Not a lot of space for bios and stuff
JustinXenyx#8854: we can be lucky that Nvidia dipped on the chipset game, otherwise we might still have needed custom Nvidia chipsets for SLI
Lady Mipha#0611: yes
MythologicalZ#3752: check drivers/board support if 3 way isnt working
MythologicalZ#3752: probably just shit drivers
FantaStick#8008: As far as 2/3/4 way xfire or sli I guess it's just based on what the manufacturer felt like supporting
MythologicalZ#3752: nvidia needs 8x for sli, can do xfire on basically anything
MythologicalZ#3752: quad sli is doable without plx on consumer boards if the manufacturer paid for the license but youre limited to dual gpus for 4 way
MythologicalZ#3752: you dont need quadfire certification to get it to work but Im from what ive seen it helps when setting it up |
FantaStick#8008: Wack
FantaStick#8008: Real question is, why are you trying to do 3 way xfire on 775
FantaStick#8008: *or use 775 at all*
JustinXenyx#8854: he isn't trying to use it as his main system
FantaStick#8008: I assumed that
MythologicalZ#3752: probably just messing around
FantaStick#8008: Fair enough
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.3dmark.com/3dmv/5832079
MythologicalZ#3752: can be fun sometimes
MythologicalZ#3752: when you get the shit drivers to function
FantaStick#8008: Lmao
FantaStick#8008: *now do gtx 690s*
MythologicalZ#3752: nvidia is aids to oc
MythologicalZ#3752: 3dm is broken with ids, in reality that is a single 6970 and a 6990
FantaStick#8008: Oh |
MythologicalZ#3752: so 3 way 6970s but two are power limited
FantaStick#8008: I thought you actually had 3 6990s
FantaStick#8008: I was like you absolute madman
MythologicalZ#3752: crossfire is limited to 4 cards
MythologicalZ#3752: I do actually have 3 but two have killed themselves
FantaStick#8008: *just make your own 6 way xfire firmware it'll be fine*
Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/742374412258639932/IMG_20200810_152927868.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/742374413273399296/IMG_20200810_152940573.jpg
Kacpreusz#7656: Now i see the appeal of a white iPhone
Kacpreusz#7656: Black just loves to get scratches
jay1185#0112: there's only one button. *i'm out*
DarknessFalls229#2286: @MythologicalZ oh, hmmm
DarknessFalls229#2286: Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, my crossfire setup aint gonna work
DarknessFalls229#2286: Shucks
DarknessFalls229#2286: @FantaStick im just having fun with hardware
DarknessFalls229#2286: Fun fact, i actually have 4 GTX 690s, but not enough of them work for quad SLI |
Kacpreusz#7656: Does it matter where i put the fuse in a powerbank? I mean positive or negative battery terminal
Dogecode#7321: In the market for a good monitor since mine seems to have finally bit the dust, any suggestions
Alcyone#2233: @Kacpreusz fuses go positive side, close to the power source
uoʇsodɾ#2412: What do you want out of it and at what price?
uoʇsodɾ#2412: @Dogecode
Dogecode#7321: @uoʇsodɾ I’d like to try 1440p or 4k but if good ones are way more than 1080p then I’ll probably settle for that. $200-300 is roughly my budget
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Do you game on it?
DarknessFalls229#2286: @"Cobs" seems like that pcie raid card might have bricked my hd 4670, after installing it the screen got all jumbled up and not even a bios flash fixed it.
DarknessFalls229#2286: Shame cause i liked that card
"Cobs"#1150: I doubt the raid card would cause that
Deleted User#0000: ay
Deleted User#0000: just a longevity question about CPU's and GPU's
if i stuck the temps at like 30 to 50 (GPU) and 40 - 60 (CPU)
can i expect them to last atleast 5 years? |
Deleted User#0000: while maintaning the case clean and stuff
Deleted User#0000: or it isnt about temps?
just for curiosity
Alcyone#2233: they will last forever at near the shutdown temp
Alcyone#2233: look how many working ref r9 290x are for sale or old laptops, those all run at 90c or more
wiryfuture🦀#1706: my 7950 at 90c playing csgo and valorant :crome:
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I smell burning then remember my neighbours are burning shit and this card also used to belong to a smoker, which you can, uh, smell
wiryfuture🦀#1706: :Mainman:
DarknessFalls229#2286: Longevity is withheld with lower temperatures (for most parts) but what that longevity IS remains unknown, a CPU running underclocked on watercooling might just crap out suddenly while a max OCd one might last years, though, chances of it failing change alongside it
DarknessFalls229#2286: I myself havent really broke anything while overclocking or overheating
DarknessFalls229#2286: But i have broke like 2 GPUs and a PSU with just stock settings
FantaStick#8008: It's just silicon quality/ good 'ol silicon lottery, gotta remember there are always imperfections in the process and that electrons do whatever the fuck they want
FantaStick#8008: Generally CPUs and GPUs are semi immortal
wiryfuture🦀#1706: unless someone likes scraping/peeling the pins off
Lady Mipha#0611: @Kacpreusz finally got that ipad from the teacher https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/742540900173086780/image0.jpg |
Deleted User#0000: Is it normal for thermal paste to get a bit sticky and dry after few months?
FantaStick#8008: Yes
FantaStick#8008: Some get dry and crusty instead
FantaStick#8008: Depends on the paste
Deleted User#0000: Mine is some grey goo stuff
Deleted User#0000: Also does white ceramic paste lasts longer?
FantaStick#8008: No idea
FantaStick#8008: I have a tub of it
FantaStick#8008: I rarely use it
The United States Air Force#7904: Is a 525w dell precision t3500 psu, 1tb sata wd hdd and a quadro fx 580 512mb worth it for $40?
vegetal#8870: someobe i know wants a new pc for 400 USD, currently on a FX4300 with RX460, 8GB ram and some toshiba hdd and a phanteks 500w psu
vegetal#8870: i gave him a list with a 4770k and RX480 on Z97
vegetal#8870: and an ssd
DarknessFalls229#2286: Kinda decent
Muse#0557: You could definitely squeeze in a 1600 |
DarknessFalls229#2286: Ive seen used 3600's go at 100 euro sometimes
DarknessFalls229#2286: So in terms of used ryzen is highly notable
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I've been doing some research and it looks like people don't think using a voltage step-up module is the best way of powering a raspberry pi from batteries, but I don't know how else you could do it
DarknessFalls229#2286: Does the pie require 5v?
Hyperstar#5134: I think but you can just search it up the raspberry pi website
Hyperstar#5134: which raspberry pi are you exactly talking about
wiryfuture🦀#1706: zero w
wiryfuture🦀#1706: If I wire three AAs in series, I get ~4v (~~3.95v)
wiryfuture🦀#1706: which should be enough..
FantaStick#8008: Some people have had sucess with that
FantaStick#8008: Could also use a 3.7 li-po battery too
FantaStick#8008: The 5v spec is only really required for supplying power for USB spec
wiryfuture🦀#1706: hmmm
FantaStick#8008: Otherwise the board converts most inputs down to 3.3v for the microprocessor and other components
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I do need to also plug a 3g modem to it |
FantaStick#8008: I would suggest just using a buck converter
wiryfuture🦀#1706: so would probably need more
FantaStick#8008: Convert that 3.7v to 5v
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'll take a look
FantaStick#8008: Should be able to find a lot of cheap tiny boards that'll do the step up for you
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yeah I saw something like that but I lost it :crome:
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't reeally want to buy off alibaba or aliexpress where I'll have to wait months
FantaStick#8008: XL6009 Boost Converter, SDTC Tech DC to DC Step Up Module 3V-32V 5V to 5V-35V 9V 12V 24V Adjustable Voltage Power Supply Circuit Board - 2 Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07RZT7J61/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_6LOmFb61301Q2
FantaStick#8008: Stuff like that
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yeah
FantaStick#8008: It's adjustable for input and output
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm trying to find anything in the uk first, so shipping won't take, uh, weeks and weeks
FantaStick#8008: Yeah check your Amazon over there
FantaStick#8008: They should have stuff
DarknessFalls229#2286: @wiryfuture🦀 what about power bank? |
DarknessFalls229#2286: You can charge it, discharhe it and hook it up with usb
DarknessFalls229#2286: No hacking, spotwelding, soldering required
wiryfuture🦀#1706: eh
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't have a power bank I can sacrifice
wiryfuture🦀#1706: and I think this would (ultimately) be smaller
wiryfuture🦀#1706: There's lots of these on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-DC-1-8V-2-5V-3V-3-3V-3-7V-To5V-step-up-power-voltage-boost-converter-board-gJ/283920648272
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but there's one review and it says it output 9v :crome:
wiryfuture🦀#1706: his looks interesting https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hobby-Components-Ltd-0-9v-5v-Step-up/dp/B00D781POM#:~:text=Compare%20with%20similar%20items%20%20%20%20This,AZ-Delivery-Shop%20%20%20Guangzhouxinqinwangluokeji%20%20%20ANQIT%20
FantaStick#8008: Yeah I didn't suggest battery pack because I assumed he was going for as small as possible
FantaStick#8008: Also battery pack would still require a little bit of soldering
FantaStick#8008: But soldering is fun
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yeah.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: think I'll just buy this from here https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC-DC-USB-0-9v-5v-to-5vdc-Boost-Step-up-Power-Supply-Module-Mini-PFM-Control/140982223808
wiryfuture🦀#1706: good enough, I think..
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'll never understand the stuff that's being sold at a loss- where the shipping is free and the shipping should cost more than the listing itself |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ight
wiryfuture🦀#1706: last thing I need to get now is some sort of dongle
wiryfuture🦀#1706: there's lots of cheap ones on ebay
wiryfuture🦀#1706: would this work on linux? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223977308171?ul_noapp=true
wiryfuture🦀#1706: apparently there's a package called PPP which can be used to set up modems and shit]
Dogecode#7321: @uoʇsodɾ yeah I will be using it for gaming
Dogecode#7321: @wiryfuture🦀 I assume that would work, linux works with most hardware and it says it does in the ad
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ight
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I bought it too late lol
DarknessFalls229#2286: @"Cobs" for SAS drives i need a SAS compatible controller right? I cannot just connect it to any sata port to any motherboard
"Cobs"#1150: Correct yeah, SATA drives will work with both SAS and SATA controllers, however SAS will **only** work with SAS ports and SAS controllers.
DarknessFalls229#2286: And would you know if the cards i showed a few ago are sas?
"Cobs"#1150: That second card (longer one) was a sas controller i think
DarknessFalls229#2286: Hmmm
"Cobs"#1150: https://www.cnet.com/products/3ware-9650se-2lp-storage-controller-raid-sata-3gb-s-pcie-x1-9650se2lpbsgl/ ah maybe not, sata 3gbps |
DarknessFalls229#2286: And being a somewhat server platform, how about skulltrail?
"Cobs"#1150: unless you have a sas controller, you can't plug the drives in
wiryfuture🦀#1706: 😦
DarknessFalls229#2286: Now thats a braided cable https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/742771661153239071/20200811_174910.jpg
FantaStick#8008: Cursed
Kacpreusz#7656: why would you do that
Kacpreusz#7656: not a good idea
DarknessFalls229#2286: I wondered if you could braid a cable with more than 3 wires
DarknessFalls229#2286: Simply had a cut off sata power cable lying around
Kacpreusz#7656: Ah, ok
FantaStick#8008: Yes you can braid with as many wires as you want
Kacpreusz#7656: this Sata cable looks like a toddler's hair but german
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I want to see this done in a build.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: And what screen size do you need? @Dogecode
uoʇsodɾ#2412: My notes: $200-$300, 4K only at a good price. 1080P only if it preforms really well. Will be used for gaming. (1ms-5ms Faster is better but hurts the color and price),+60Hz. (144Hz I hear can be found at a reasonable price.) |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: shouldn't 120 be fine over 144 if the colour is better
uoʇsodɾ#2412: That's what the +60 is for. 144 is very common. That's why I listed it.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm asking if 120 is ok if better quality because I know some people insistent for having 144 and 120 not being enough
wiryfuture🦀#1706: and yes they only play games on their computer
uoʇsodɾ#2412: A lot of this comes down to preference. It's like if you get a group of 100 people and have them buy audio stuff (With there own money). They will all pick different stuff.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yeah
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ☑️
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I personally use a 75Hz 6bpp 1080p ultrawide because it's good enough. It is not as fast as my CRT but I still use the ultrawide while gaming over the CRT. My laptop display at 60Hz 6bpp is not good enough for me because I can see it flicker with some colors. (6bpp displays can not reproduce all the colors that 32bit color has to offer and flickers in between the 2 closest colors).
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Most people can not see my laptop screen flicker.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: my display has shit colours and dynamic range
wiryfuture🦀#1706: my eyes hurt because the black is so gray when there's white on the screen
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but oh well
uoʇsodɾ#2412: My dad's display needs DP1.4 to run at 60Hz because it uses 10bpp at 4k. With DP 1.2 it caps out at 30Hz. Even at 60Hz the lag is very bad but stomps all over the CRT and OLED phone display in color.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I also don't recommend ultrawide for strictly gaming. I like it for it's more efficient use of my space. Widescreens are better for modern games/movies and standard 4:3 ratio is better for older games/movies.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: The Pixio PX329 is a 1440P display @165Hz (Very nice), 4ms response time(Could be somewhat better for gaming but not unplayable), VA (I've never used a VA panel. It's better that a TN panel in color but not as good as a IPS panel), 8bpp with 93% sRGB coverage (This is fine for games but is bad for photo editing.), and AMD freesync 2 over DP 1.2. Tell me what you like or find more important and what you don't like about this and I'll find one that fits you better. I picked this one because it's above 60Hz and less than 5ms response first. Then the resolution second. And the screen size 3ed. There are other things to considered but this should get us started. I picked from this list https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#X=0,30000&D=70000,280000&G=100000000000,5000000000000&r=768004320,576002160,512002880,512002160,512001440,409602160,384002160,384001600,344001440,256001600,256001440,204801536&sort=-size&page=1 |
I also liked the Acer KG271U bmiippx 27 for it's response time, and the Acer V277U for it's IPS display.
Oh. And I'm using the US price and availability. It could be different for you.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: @Dogecode
uoʇsodɾ#2412: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/ I use this website to do color correction with my displays.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: finally got me some soldering wick, can't wait to do some prototyping with an rpi
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Raspberry Pi is super nice. Which one?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: zero w
wiryfuture🦀#1706: small boi
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but I'm kinda obsessed with single board computers in general
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it's just that the pi(s) are the cheapest, most readily available option with good support
uoʇsodɾ#2412: It's more of a system on chip.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: eh
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I guess
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I mean |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it is
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Ryzen APU laptop with soldered RAM and SSD.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but boards like the rpi give lots more flexibility than what comes to my mind with soc (I think phones, tablets or embedded devices tbh)
wiryfuture🦀#1706: > Ryzen APU laptop with soldered RAM and SSD.
@uoʇsodɾ sounds like a macbook :epicgamer:
uoʇsodɾ#2412: rpi has a flex IO and is in a small form factor. I think that's what led it to it's success. (not accounting for marketing)
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yeah
wiryfuture🦀#1706: so much io
wiryfuture🦀#1706: and you can modify it ridiculously easily
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'd say that it's the perfect all-rounder for IOT stuff
wiryfuture🦀#1706: sure, you can get more dedicated hardware for very specific tasks, but if you just want to make something that works, the pi will
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I feel most everything that a pi is used for a Arduino can do better.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Yeah
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I think most people use an Arduino and pi simultaneously
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Pi is more fun though. |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ~~so they don't accidentally fry the pi haha~~
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I've had this unit in use for many years and it has always made me wonder about where it gets it chip temp from. Like where on the chip and how deep it is. (top of the chip is where the heatsync touches. The temp sensor is not broken. When my case temp changes by 5C then sensor changes with it by 5C. As does my GPU and CPU. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/742841687054876754/unknown.png
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I've seen above 270C on it.
JustinXenyx#8854: Just to chime in, if you were to A-B test 120Hz vs 144Hz you'd instantly tell that this 24Hz difference is basically placebo/not noticeable to most people @wiryfuture🦀
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yeah lol
wiryfuture🦀#1706: unless you're a GAMER GRRRR
Dogecode#7321: @uoʇsodɾ How’s the AOC CQ27G1? It appears to have nearly the same specs as the Pixio (VA panel, 1440p, 144hz refresh) for $50 less
Dogecode#7321: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07V39QHMY?tag=rtings-mn-r-20&ie=UTF8
Dogecode#7321: Linus featured it in his monitor roundup last year and I saw it on a few other sites
JustinXenyx#8854: To be quite honest with you people, i'd avoid VA in its entirety
JustinXenyx#8854: it has horrible ghosting
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I thought IPS had surpassed VA and TN panels by now
FantaStick#8008: VA is kind of wack
FantaStick#8008: either say fuck viewing angles cause you're a normal human being that sits in front of their monitor and get TN, or spend the extra money and get IPS for a nicer display, IPS is almost a necessity if you're doing any sort of work that need to be color accurate
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Anyone know about home theatere systems? |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Esp Sony ones?
Abe.#3344: Can I get some opinions on this £1000 build? The dude likes RGB and doesn't need peripherals.
Abe.#3344: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/obliveater95/saved/VQZfvK
uoʇsodɾ#2412: @Dogecode It would be nearly identical to my eyes. VA panel (has ghosting like others have pointed out), 1ms response time (your not going to get better than this on your budget), lower refresh but still above 60Hz, 8bpp color with 102% sRGB coverage, AMD freesync 2 over DP, and slightly smaller.
boog#9487: Dump was generous again https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/742881838187413514/20200811_131803.jpg
boog#9487: N64 with Mario tennis, power cable and video cable oh and two controllers then in the same box I found a ps1/2 arcade controller and a Sony ps1 mouse and a few other miscellaneous things
boog#9487: N64 works, haven't tested the arcade controller but usually stuff work and I can't test the Sony mouse as I have no compatible games, and ye
boog#9487: Also not gonna lie Mario tennis be the most fun game I've found in the dump
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Nice.
Alcyone#2233: nice find
boog#9487: Yeah hopefully I can get somewhere to set my consoles up soon as right now they're all boxed up or on a shelf
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Acer V277U bmiipx would be my pick if I want with 1440P and using my own money. IPS is super important in my book but it has worse backlight blead than TN. (I avoid TN because of how it shifts color when it is viewed from a different angle and VA for it's ghosting). It also has a 8bpp panel at 75Hz with a 4ms response time.
Any better than the ones that where discussed in combined color and refresh under $300 would require you to go to 1080P.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I like this $300 budget you have. It's realistic and says that you don't want to spend a billon bucks. 🙂 |
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Just a quick guide to translate bpp. bpp is bits per pixel. It determines how many colors can be mapped to each pixel. More is better. 6bpp = 16 bit depth. 8bpp = 24 bit depth. 10bpp = 32 bit depth.
FantaStick#8008: wouldnt go too crazy, after a certain point if youre not doing work that needs color accuracy youre just getting diminishing returns
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Yes. 10bpp at the coast of screen response time and refresh is when you go to crazy. That's why I put in the note above no higher than 5ms of response time.
FantaStick#8008: yeah, its crazy how expensive those extremely color accurate monitors are
uoʇsodɾ#2412: At 1080P I like the MSI Optix MAG241C. 6bpp at 144Hz and 128% sRGB coverage. It also has a 1ms response time and freesync (5ms). This review can cover the rest.
https://pcmonitors.info/msi/msi-g241-and-g271-144hz-full-hd-ips-models/
mi3night#2562: @Abe. that mobo don’t support zen3 out of the box and it doesn’t have bios flashback too
mi3night#2562: If he likes RGB get him some case rgb fans
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh wait no lmao
mi3night#2562: You read
JustinXenyx#8854: forget what i said i just woke up lmao
mi3night#2562: Lmfaoooo
mi3night#2562: :YouAFunnyMotherFucker:
mi3night#2562: Ima sleep
JustinXenyx#8854: @Abe. PSU is pretty much trash and the board is way too expensive for a B450 |
FantaStick#8008: It's also not a very good b450 board
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm having problems
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I tried flashing a .img file on an 8 and 32GB microsd card and now both of them have no media
wiryfuture🦀#1706: how do I unfuck them
Racey#8574: Are you able to access them in explorer or equivalent file browser or do they not show up
wiryfuture🦀#1706: nah
wiryfuture🦀#1706: In windows or linux
wiryfuture🦀#1706: gparted doesn't see it, disk manager says no media
Kacpreusz#7656: Chinese vs genuine Apple 30pin cable https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743069395227508756/IMG_20200812_132508462.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743069396146192454/IMG_20200812_132519886.jpg
wiryfuture🦀#1706: bro https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743071832256544768/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I just snapped a microsd card in half by accident
DarknessFalls229#2286: Bruh
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743073677351845918/20200812_124922.jpg
DarknessFalls229#2286: Dude wut
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it snapped when I put it into the reader :crome: |
DarknessFalls229#2286: :evertse_f:
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ok
wiryfuture🦀#1706: how do I flash Raspbian without killing a microsd card
FantaStick#8008: Carefully
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Woop I got my pi zero up
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I even got a lil heatsink for it
wiryfuture🦀#1706: @"Cobs" thought this was cool https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743124684064686250/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743124728004214792/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: vpn ppl can see your hostname, the ultimate weakness
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I can imagine that in like, China or some other country with a fucked internet, fake VPNs could be set up to bait people into giving themselves away
vegetal#8870: connect to a vpn while using another vpn
vegetal#8870: ez
wiryfuture🦀#1706: now I test if my rpi automatically connects to my ppn
wiryfuture🦀#1706: *vpn
"Cobs"#1150: > now I test if my rpi automatically connects to my ppn |
@wiryfuture🦀 that hostname is just your routers IP resolved, everyone has one. mines like east50-10-20.home.bt.com or something stupid
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yeah
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but I think that that could be pretty revealing to a vpn
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I think my rpi is confused because it hasn't connected to my wifi
Abe.#3344: Can someone recommend a better PSU and board for my friends build? PSU's are looking pretty expensive and the only board I've used before is the B450 Pro4
Abe.#3344: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/obliveater95/saved/VQZfvK
FantaStick#8008: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kpmF7T
FantaStick#8008: Fixed?
mi3night#2562: @Abe.
mi3night#2562: Fixed
Abe.#3344: Ty!
wiryfuture🦀#1706: how the fuck do I get openvpn to connect at start on boot on my raspberry pi from cli
dexsters56#4904: Hey everyone i got a question to ask and i want some opinions. My friend owed me money but instead of giving me the 100€ he ow me he gave me this list of parts.
X5570
Rampage ii Extreme |
16gb ddr 3 2133mhz xmp sticks from hyperX.
Is this something good or bad?
FantaStick#8008: assuming that its working, thats very good
FantaStick#8008: cpu is worth more as a keychain, motherboard goes for over 250$ on ebay, and the ram should get you another easy 50-60$
dexsters56#4904: Well everything works
dexsters56#4904: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743218419222184016/IMG_-m4xk62.jpg
dexsters56#4904: I put a cheap watercooker on it bc i didnt like the stock intel cooler
dexsters56#4904: Should i get a X5670 for it or no?
FantaStick#8008: meh
FantaStick#8008: i would just sell the board and the ram on ebay for big bucks
FantaStick#8008: then get yourself on a better platform
FantaStick#8008: or whatever else you want
Alcyone#2233: yeah x58 is pretty power hungry for what you get out and I think pascal is the newest card that works reliably on Rampage II
wiryfuture🦀#1706: how much data does a vpn need to keep a connection alive? |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: well, I just did some ~~meth~~ maths and my vpn used 31,716 bytes just to stay alive in a minute
wiryfuture🦀#1706: and it used 30,699 bytes without an ssh to the client
JustinXenyx#8854: @dexsters56 if you're asking me you got ripped off
JustinXenyx#8854: X58 as a platform is SUPER dated, the CPU is basically worthless and the boards are hard to sell because only collectors really want X58 and those motherfuckers are picky
JustinXenyx#8854: So to me it would be more trouble than it's worth
wiryfuture🦀#1706: giving stuff instead of money is dodgy
JustinXenyx#8854: especially something that old
JustinXenyx#8854: he obviously wasn't sure if there was any real value behind it or if he would realistically able to sell it
JustinXenyx#8854: > I put a cheap watercooker on it bc i didnt like the stock intel cooler
lol nice typo but it works out better with the typo
FantaStick#8008: trust me youll have no problem selling that rampage board on ebay for 200+
FantaStick#8008: i flip maximus/rampage/whatever other high end oc boards for profit all the time
FantaStick#8008: ez way to make loads of profit
Deleted User#0000: Are there any modern motherboards that still support PS/2 and have two PS/2 ports?
JustinXenyx#8854: A lot of motherboards do |
JustinXenyx#8854: but i think it would be silly to choose a motherboard simply for having 2 PS/2 ports
JustinXenyx#8854: *especially when USB mice are way better than PS2 mice*
Deleted User#0000: I guess they might be. Plus, I doubt that anyone makes a vertical PS/2 mouse
JustinXenyx#8854: With keyboards i do see the appeal, but mouse sensor technology has advanced a lot
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh yeah no they weren't focused as much on ergonomics back then
Deleted User#0000: I really need a vertical mouse to try and reduce my ulnar claw
Deleted User#0000: But yeah, obviously I want a motherboard with good features, but I just like PS/2 keyboards
Alcyone#2233: you might need PS/2 if you want to install old os
wiryfuture🦀#1706: does anyone know how NMEA works?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm pretty sure that's what the gps module I order has and I'm unsure of how it works, can you store multiple "sentences" in one file or do you need separate files for each one
Dogecode#7321: @uoʇsodɾ The Acer V277u seems good for a basic monitor but it isn’t really great for gaming because of its 75Hz refresh rate. After doing a little more research I’m also not a huge fan of the AOC CQ27G1 not only because it’s a VA panel but also because of its abysmal 250 nit peak brightness
Dogecode#7321: I’m looking at the Pixio PX275h now. IPS panel, 1440p, great color specs and basic HDR support for around $260. The 95hz refresh rate is still a little low but that’s about as good as you can get for 1440p IPS at this price point.
Deleted User#0000: Hey does anyone know where i can find any bios for a-bit motherboards? I literally cannot find any page about it, any bios files i find just dont work
Alcyone#2233: which abit motherboard?
mi3night#2562: @Dogecode link? |
Dogecode#7321: https://www.amazon.com/Pixio-FreeSync-Certified-Productivity-Warranty/dp/B07PZX54QC
Bertie Kemp#1114: So maybe you shouldn't RMA an ASUS monitor, you get something worse in return! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743378914310750218/20200813_084959.jpg
vegetal#8870: Mmmmm.
D.D.M#8226: Wtf happened
Racey#8574: Looks like someone noob tubed the monitor box tbh lmfao
TheSwiftTiger#8189: is it worth buying a 144hz monitor with an rx 580 and r5 2600?
i definitely want dual monitors but i'm not sure if i want a 144hz or 60hz one
i mostly play cod warzone as well as some competitive and indie games, but also wondering if it makes much of a difference with general use
MythologicalZ#3752: you can get a lot for a r2e
Racey#8574: I have a 240 hz monitor on my Frankenstein of a system it just depends on if you feel like spending the money to get one
Racey#8574: Just remember you'd love the 144 Hz life and never want to go back to 60 once you get used to it
TheSwiftTiger#8189: yeah that's another problem lol
TheSwiftTiger#8189: i have a 60hz monitor atm which i want to use alongside the other monitor i buy
D.D.M#8226: Well also consider if those games or media can use the 144hz capability
FantaStick#8008: The games he's playing can |
FantaStick#8008: There are very few games that can't take advantage of HRR
FantaStick#8008: Fallout 4 is really the only one I know of
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Alcyone what voltage you used on 5ghz 2700k?
Alcyone#2233: 1.43 actual, 1.45 set with droop
Dogecode#7321: Can I use an old wireless/ethernet CCTV camera as a webcam
JustinXenyx#8854: yes but it's stupid
DarknessFalls229#2286: Welp, in the end i think im gonna sell the i7 2600k machine at stock, was having issues with OC
DarknessFalls229#2286: It basicly crapped out trying to do 4.7GHz
Alcyone#2233: thats pretty common
Alcyone#2233: most sandy will top out at 4.6-4.8 depending on silicon quality and also the motherboard
Alcyone#2233: I had got lucky with that 2700k and was also using a maximus IV
Alcyone#2233: I have an ECS z77, so far I have tried 2550k and 3570k on it and both could not get 4.8 stable
Alcyone#2233: I also sell all my systems at stock. I clr the cmos and reset all oc profiles in bios. I dont want some instability issue making the buyer complain, they can overclock it themselves
DarknessFalls229#2286: Yeah i feel that
DarknessFalls229#2286: This thing is sometimes temperamental |
DarknessFalls229#2286: But i mightve found it has to do with usb3.0
Alcyone#2233: arent you using that unlocked dell board?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Ye
Alcyone#2233: its probably the board
DarknessFalls229#2286: Yup
Alcyone#2233: my ecs is not great at oc either
DarknessFalls229#2286: Cause i found no instability on the testbed, but after i installed the usb 3.0 chipset drivers the boot issues went away
Alcyone#2233: I am testing 4,7 at 1.38 actual right now and it might not be prime stable
D.D.M#8226: Hry guys so i recently upgraded my cpu from a i3-2120 to a xeon e3-1240v2 and for some reason Left 4 Dead 2 will not connect to any game it would just give me an error that it tried to reconnect 10 times.
D.D.M#8226: I searched over google and people said reinstall it or check firewall. I did both and nothing. Any idea?
D.D.M#8226: Every single other game i play works fine and connects fine.
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: umm test
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: so the pinned vrm tier list in this channel either it was wrong about this board or steve from hw unboxed was and im leaning towards steve cause there are other boards he mentioned with similar vrm layout and performed the same https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743597798921863208/unknown.png
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: one of them is wrong so :P
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743601420510429214/unknown.png
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ~~i posted the wrong screenshot moments ago but my point still stands~~
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i am the dumb dumb dumb dumber
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: b550***"M"***
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: hooray agressive prooved that he was blind once again!! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743602085517328404/unknown.png
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: 😎
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: honestly there is no point even leaving this in this channel
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i should delete this xD
JustinXenyx#8854: So what have we learned today kids?
JustinXenyx#8854: Don't come to inconclusive conclusions just because you've forgotten how to read!
Bertie Kemp#1114: Hey, stupid question, upgrading Windows 10 from home to pro doesn't reset or break anything does it?
Deleted User#0000: Shouldn't do
JustinXenyx#8854: prepare for the worst @Bertie Kemp
JustinXenyx#8854: like it *shouldn't* go wrong, but better go in prepared
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Wanna see something cool |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743663895075356762/JPEG_20190406_144509.jpg
Deleted User#0000: and i thought hp had bad cable management
Xbox 360 1953#2640: That's my brothers rig that he's had for a bunch of years now
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I tried to do what I could like a year ago to fix it but didn't do much
Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743664774361120918/JPEG_20190406_173932.jpg
Deleted User#0000: What are the specs?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Some haswell k i5 and a gtx 760 iirc
Xbox 360 1953#2640: And 16gb ram, forgot how fast
uoʇsodɾ#2412: The GPU looks like it has a 6+8 pin. It also appears that It looks like there is a 8pin to 2 6pin to 4 Molex adaptors.. They sell a 8 pin to 2 Molex adaptor. https://www.amazon.com/Molex-Express-Converter-Adapter-Power/dp/B085T49JZN/ref=sr_1_34?dchild=1&keywords=8+pin+to+molex&qid=1597377185&s=electronics&sr=1-34
Also try to use 2 separate Molex cables to the GPU. Connecting 2 molex plugs on the same cable to a 8 pin can sometimes overamp the cable or a rail on the PSU. Connecting 4 molex plugs with 2 cables has no meaningful benefit over connecting 1 plug per cable.
I would also try to get the CPU power cable to run under the GPU and along side the CPU VRM heatsink.
The fan cables would look better the red and black pairs where twisted together.
I would try to move the 2 drives to the bottom of the HDD cage and zip-tie the SATA cables to the (single?) zip-tie mount in the case.
Super job on routing the fan cables and using the 6 pin that the PSU comes with. It looks a lot nicer then how it was. :thumbsupcat: |
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I also spy the 6 pin to molex adaptor that was removed on the left.
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Holy shit you were typing for a while
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I was going to talk about the fan cable mess but then i realized it was a before and after photo.
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Lol
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I had it typed up and everything. You did the seconded option I would of recommended.
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I'll see about doing what you said, but I might try and convince my brother to get a new psu/gpu and some new fans too
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Nice
uoʇsodɾ#2412: That case looks like it was build for a OEM with minimal cable management in mind. It's never going to be prefect. I have a case that has no cable management in mind an can attest to how hard it is to cable manage in them.
Xbox 360 1953#2640: It's some old antec case I think
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Looked like a HP envy or a Dell XPS case to me. Mabey HP, or dell, is reusing the case.
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Could be
uoʇsodɾ#2412: These two links could help make it easer to route cables. They have helped me in my case.
https://www.amazon.com/Adhesive-Mounts-Holders-Multi-Purpose-Length/dp/B077TSNMGD/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=Adhesive+Cable+Clip&qid=1597380031&s=hi&sr=1-7
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https://www.amazon.com/25pcs-Adhesive-Adjustable-Optional-Management/dp/B072XJT436/ref=sr_1_10?dchild=1&keywords=Adhesive+Cable+Clip&qid=1597380031&s=hi&sr=1-10
uoʇsodɾ#2412: You can also find them at the local hardware store.
Kacpreusz#7656: I have an iPhone 4S running iOS 9.3.6, i installed Discord on it, i was able to log in, i'm getting notifications but the app crashes on this screen: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743916597231616100/20200814_213656.jpg
Kacpreusz#7656: Is there any fix for that? I'm jailbroken using 3utools
JustinXenyx#8854: I REALLY doubt that there is a fix for that
JustinXenyx#8854: the app likely crashes because it's on such an old iphone
Racey#8574: the app crashes because that can't handle all the new shit that they introduced on the servers
Deleted User#0000: discord not working was the main reason i upgraded my phone tbh
Kacpreusz#7656: Cydia has a discord client on iOS 6.1.3 right?
JustinXenyx#8854: my dude, i really doubt discord has a client that was developed for anything lower than iOS 9
Deleted User#0000: It doesn't even run on iOS 9
JustinXenyx#8854: well the current client might not, but the early clients likely do
Deleted User#0000: It won't let you update to a newer client, and the old ones don't work anymore
Muse#0557: No clue why developers still account for devices like the 4s.. Surely its not worth gimping the majority in order for people with 900mhz single cores to get into the app, only a month ago did Minecraft pe stop optimising the game to get onto the 4s
Lady Mipha#0611: > Is there any fix for that? I'm jailbroken using 3utools |
@Kacpreusz there’s no fix for that due to age
Racey#8574: Nah Minecraft PE was always unoptimized since 1.0.0
vegetal#8870: discord def has an ios 7 client
vegetal#8870: i know someone who uses it
vegetal#8870: likely an ios6 client too
Deleted User#0000: i want to ask
Deleted User#0000: i have an lga 771 socket
Deleted User#0000: should i upgrade my intel xeon 5080
JustinXenyx#8854: no
Deleted User#0000: or get a new board
Deleted User#0000: and what board should i get
JustinXenyx#8854: the question has been answered already, it is literally pointless to invest any more money into current your system and you would gain much more by actually upgrading
Deleted User#0000: what board should i get
Deleted User#0000: for cheap
JustinXenyx#8854: what are you even talking about |
JustinXenyx#8854: a new 771 board? a completely new motherboard for a different socket?
Deleted User#0000: mobo
Deleted User#0000: no
Deleted User#0000: something better
Deleted User#0000: 1151 or something
Deleted User#0000: to be able to upgrade the cpu
JustinXenyx#8854: I mean, my cheap is likely higher than your cheap but even then you couldn't get an LGA1151 board cheap regardless
JustinXenyx#8854: Also you don't buy a board and then buy a CPU afterwards, that's just a stupid decision
Deleted User#0000: no
Deleted User#0000: together
Deleted User#0000: for how much
Deleted User#0000: i want something better than my lga771 board
Deleted User#0000: cheap for like a 100$
Budget#8265: @Deleted User Everytime you ask this you get the same bloody asnwer
Budget#8265: 1155 Motherboard |
Kacpreusz#7656: oh my bad
Budget#8265: Core i5 2500
Budget#8265: 16GB of RAM
Kacpreusz#7656: wrong server
Budget#8265: and use your GTX460
Budget#8265: @Kacpreusz Understandable issue
JustinXenyx#8854: Well i think if he cannot import parts because the risk of having them stolen from customs that might be tougher than you might initially think
Budget#8265: Oh definitey
Budget#8265: Which is why he would want to look into DHL shipping
Budget#8265: NOT standard
Budget#8265: I know DHL was a gateway around that issue for a few people ive helped
Budget#8265: Local Pricing in Egypt is FUBAR
Deleted User#0000: What exactly is the difference between a 2400 and a 2500?
JustinXenyx#8854: Clockspeeds!
Deleted User#0000: That it? |
Deleted User#0000: Huh
Alcyone#2233: https://gitlab.com/CalcProgrammer1/OpenRGB
Deleted User#0000: I don't see much point in going out of your way to get a 4c/4t CPU nowadays
Alcyone#2233: there are also the xeon e3-12xx cpus that are about the same as i5/i7 depending on sku
Alcyone#2233: If you are on a tight budget a cobbled together sandy is about the cheapest system that will run all the modern games
FantaStick#8008: 9100f were 50$ at microcenter after the mobo bundle savings, i was half tempted lol
Alcyone#2233: as its the cheapest thing with decent clocks and AVX
Muse#0557: Its going down in here
Deleted User#0000: I'm running a 2400, and the only modern anything that my system runs is DOOM 2016
Muse#0557: Thats um
Muse#0557: Not true
Budget#8265: I mean the Core i5 2400 can run even RDR2
Muse#0557: Or not 2400 at fault
Budget#8265: I do need to do a proper video on the topic really
Deleted User#0000: Mine also doesn't seem to want to turbo up at all |
Budget#8265: OEM board?
Alcyone#2233: I have a 1155 4c, it runs things fine unless its vmprotect drm
Deleted User#0000: It's on an HP board
Budget#8265: Sounds about right
Muse#0557: Need to make a new £100 pc with a i5 2500 and 7950 or something
FantaStick#8008: that explains more than it should
Budget#8265: HP boards never boost right
Muse#0557: Or 7870
Alcyone#2233: 7990 xfire
FantaStick#8008: you know i have a sandy alienware board and a 7950
FantaStick#8008: i could do an 100$ pc with that too
Alcyone#2233: I think darkness has the alienware p67 too
FantaStick#8008: time to look for chips filled with sand
Deleted User#0000: I really need to get something newer
Budget#8265: I mean fair enough |
Muse#0557: Gotta get Ryzen 5 six core to get decent gains
Budget#8265: AM4 is a good upgrade
FantaStick#8008: got the 7950 for 20$ which is alright i guess
Alcyone#2233: I have a cheater $100 pc with 3570k and z77
Budget#8265: I mean a Ryzen 3100 is an awesome upgrade
Muse#0557: I wouldn't say its worth it
FantaStick#8008: was gonna go get a i3 10100 today since it was 80$ after mobo bundle
FantaStick#8008: they were sold out
FantaStick#8008: i bought a 9900k for 280$ instead
Deleted User#0000: I live in a really low income area, so IDK if I'll even be able to get a low end Ryzen system
Muse#0557: ._.
FantaStick#8008: now to look for z370/z390 boards
Muse#0557: No
Deleted User#0000: Plus, I'll also need to shell out a bunch for a new PSU, board, and RAM along with the CPU
Muse#0557: A 2400 can run rdr2 |
FantaStick#8008: oddly enough i can get my hands on haswell stuff cheaper than i can get sandy stuff
Muse#0557: So its probably the gpu holding you back
Alcyone#2233: 3570k-$40
8gb ddr3 2400-$32
240gb msata ssd-$24
ecs z77-free
gtx 560-free
old 750w psu-free
Muse#0557: Thats a tech yes city 100 buck build
FantaStick#8008: nah
Muse#0557: Not a helpful one
FantaStick#8008: bryan would be using a xeon
Deleted User#0000: I'm running a GTX 1650. I doubt it's holding me back
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Bro buy this es 9900k bro
FantaStick#8008: uhhh |
FantaStick#8008: bad news
Budget#8265: That HP Board will be a holdback
Budget#8265: But dont dump more money into 1155
Muse#0557: So you're saying a 2400 and 1650 can only play upti doom 2016
Budget#8265: As much as I love it
Budget#8265: Save for AM4 mate
Muse#0557: Ive played doom 2016 on a q8300 and gtx 470
Alcyone#2233: I am the best now
FantaStick#8008: other problem with Hp boards is a lot of time the pcie power is limited to 25/35W
Alcyone#2233: gonna go spray my mobo with wd-40
FantaStick#8008: no
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Brake cleaner
FantaStick#8008: wash it in the sink
Alcyone#2233: I have washed pc parts in the sink
Muse#0557: Toothbrush on ecs hours |
FantaStick#8008: give it that tech yes loving
FantaStick#8008: put on some barry white
FantaStick#8008: rub it nice and slow
Deleted User#0000: I wish I could get AM4, but I'd need to replace almost my entire PC to use it, and I just can't afford that sort of investment
Budget#8265: I mean it sounds like your current PC does all you need it to
Budget#8265: so like what is problem
Alcyone#2233: ecs is mint, it needed nothing but a bricked bios recovered, a few pins straightened and 2 days to figure out how to make it oc right
Alcyone#2233: worst oc board I have ever owned
FantaStick#8008: im sure you can do worse
FantaStick#8008: just gotta look for even jankier
Alcyone#2233: maybe a biostar
Muse#0557: Worse board ive seen is a zotac h55 itx
Alcyone#2233: or the alienware oem boards
FantaStick#8008: hey
Budget#8265: 775 boards give me nothing but greif |
FantaStick#8008: dont talk bad about zotac
FantaStick#8008: zotac is based god
Deleted User#0000: It just about does what I need it to, but only when I crank all the settings down on everything
Budget#8265: Mate
Budget#8265: that aint right at all
Budget#8265: Whatchu tryna run
Muse#0557: I have troubles with basic every H61 board i touch since it seems even the blue and black msi and asus ones are some sort of oems
FantaStick#8008: sometimes you actually need to raise some settings so that the cpu has time to count the frames lol
Deleted User#0000: Gmod, CS:GO, modded Minecraft
Alcyone#2233: I have had numerous issues with blue asus boards
Alcyone#2233: they gave me ptsd
FantaStick#8008: oh the old stuff
Budget#8265: How much RAM does this system have
Budget#8265: Dump question but has to be asked
FantaStick#8008: i was having a brain fart and was like when the fuck did asus make a blue board |
Deleted User#0000: 16GB
Alcyone#2233: most of the 1155 and am3 stuff was blue
FantaStick#8008: oh right yeah the good ol days
Budget#8265: Yeah nah you have other issues with your system
Budget#8265: All of those should run fine
Alcyone#2233: is the ram in dual channel?
Budget#8265: I was running Gmod on a Pentium 4 earlier
FantaStick#8008: gigabyte really liked blue back then too
Alcyone#2233: could be thermal throttling, is the fan go brrrrrrrrrrr?
FantaStick#8008: oh yeah how does that thermal paste look 8 years later
Deleted User#0000: I honestly have no clue about the fans
Budget#8265: Check HW Monitor
Deleted User#0000: Or the thermal compound
Budget#8265: Just run HW Monitor itll tell you temps
Budget#8265: 😄 |
Alcyone#2233: hwinfo64 gang
FantaStick#8008: do as the walrus says
Alcyone#2233: coo coo ka choo
FantaStick#8008: the walrus speaks great words of wisdom
FantaStick#8008: let it be
Deleted User#0000: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/743994065447551076/unknown.png
Alcyone#2233: do you have cinebench?
Deleted User#0000: Nope
Alcyone#2233: well then, run a game for like 10mins with hwmonitor open and check the max temps
Deleted User#0000: Any particular suggestions on what to run?
Muse#0557: City skylines is a good one
Deleted User#0000: I don't have that
Alcyone#2233: the game that gives you the least fps
Muse#0557: Or install aida 64 idk
wiryfuture🦀#1706: what the fuck https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744134928219766824/unknown.png |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: c++ is doing crack why is there so many ways to, uh, get a variable to be something
vegetal#8870: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744141330296602704/Screen_Shot_2020-08-15_at_6.31.44_pm.png
Lady Mipha#0611: that's a damaged usb
Lady Mipha#0611: from file corruption
vegetal#8870: any way to fix?
Lady Mipha#0611: not really
vegetal#8870: rip
wiryfuture🦀#1706: flash dying
wiryfuture🦀#1706: this feels like multiple characters?? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744145961323986944/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: \0
thatubuntuguy#5914: Yeah looks like dying flash or it got corrupted somehow
D.D.M#8226: Hey guys so my parents have this digital picture frame and for some reason after some time the it gives the pictures horizontal coloured rectangles. My dad told me they take pictures with his Note 10+.
D.D.M#8226: Could it be because of the resolution?
D.D.M#8226: He shoots at 16:9 aspect ratio 1080p
D.D.M#8226: And the frame didn't have this problem with pictures from my dads old galaxy s7 |
thatubuntuguy#5914: What do you mean by horizontal rectangles
thatubuntuguy#5914: Like does the image become glitchy
thatubuntuguy#5914: Is the glitching only on the Note 10+ pictures
Hyperstar#5134: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744226709125070848/IMG_20200814_185231057.jpg
Slyse#2578: Came across a graphics card exactly like this, can't seem to find correct drivers for it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744229329034281020/Z.png
Slyse#2578: obviously not a real GTX960, but has anyone had a card like this and found drivers that actually work?
Slyse#2578: doesnt even have a pci power connector
MythologicalZ#3752: probably some fermi card that needs a reflash
MythologicalZ#3752: check the die
Slyse#2578: the text on the die has worn off
Slyse#2578: but its something like G116?
MythologicalZ#3752: gf116 is 550ti
JustinXenyx#8854: You need to reflash the proper VBIOS to make those cards work with their actual drivers @Slyse
JustinXenyx#8854: And you cannot reflash them via software, you need an EEPROM flasher
Slyse#2578: okay |
Slyse#2578: is there a how-to on it, or should I not bother?
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra0T0j5KoAc
Slyse#2578: looks like a nono for me, anyway, big thanks for the help!
MythologicalZ#3752: :TheGoods:
Hyperstar#5134: Myth, do you like duel 8 pins
Hyperstar#5134: Just making sure
Hyperstar#5134: 👀
MythologicalZ#3752: more power is nice
JustinXenyx#8854: but 8 pin vs 6 pin power is purely an artificial difference
JustinXenyx#8854: they use the same cable thickness, they're almost the same connector
Hyperstar#5134: What power supply would I need for running 2 Xeon X5672's with a RTX 2060
JustinXenyx#8854: something something you really aren't stupid enough to buy a 2060 for a computer like that something something
JustinXenyx#8854: something something you can buy a way better pc just for the price of a 2060 alone something something
Hyperstar#5134: Yeah, its more theoretical
MythologicalZ#3752: probably 650w |
MythologicalZ#3752: depends if your board needs dual eps
Hyperstar#5134: duel sps?
JustinXenyx#8854: i'm going to assume he is referring to his Z600
Hyperstar#5134: fuk you keyboard
MythologicalZ#3752: dual cpu power connectors
Hyperstar#5134: I haven't checked
JustinXenyx#8854: For a Z600 you'd need a fuck ton of adapters to put in a new power supply
Hyperstar#5134: Yep
Muse#0557: Justin is dying
JustinXenyx#8854: hell you cannot even put a new power supply in
Hyperstar#5134: If I were blind, this would be new news.
Muse#0557: RTX 2060 would be bottlenecked to shit
Muse#0557: Most only need 1 8 pin iirc
Hyperstar#5134: Since its so proprietary, maybe it only needs 1
JustinXenyx#8854: going off pure PCIe power specs, a 2060 could draw up to 225W |
Hyperstar#5134: Don't know if it works like that
Muse#0557: 75w+150w
Muse#0557: (Pcie lane + 8 Pin)
MythologicalZ#3752: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744239106518679602/X8DTH-iF_600x600.png
MythologicalZ#3752: boards like this for example
DarknessFalls229#2286: Thats right, you can run cables out of spec and go above and beyond 300w
Muse#0557: 2 4 pins per cpu is stupid
Muse#0557: But fella dont even consider a 2060 with a quad core x58 xeon setup
DarknessFalls229#2286: I think he had dual 6 cores
DarknessFalls229#2286: But it would still be stupid
Muse#0557: Nope
Muse#0557: Dual Quad Cores
MythologicalZ#3752: 5672s are quads yeah
Muse#0557: Worth like 5 bucks
Muse#0557: With almost C2Q Ipc |
MythologicalZ#3752: like most 4c 1366 chips
JustinXenyx#8854: https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i3/TB1480kHXXXXXXLXpXXXXXXXXXX_!!0-item_pic.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: that's the board of his machine
MythologicalZ#3752: ouch
BigPierogi#3368: that form factor
MythologicalZ#3752: at least dual pcie is nice
BigPierogi#3368: looks like it can do tri channel?
Muse#0557: Dont think it can
Muse#0557: Would it be 1.5x
Muse#0557: Idk
MythologicalZ#3752: need 3 dimms for tri channel
MythologicalZ#3752: assuming each cpu uses 3 slots each and not some weird combo it'll run triple
Muse#0557: Ah
Muse#0557: Am being dunb
BigPierogi#3368: dunb |
DarknessFalls229#2286: One dimm per channel
Muse#0557: Are there any quin or sex channel sockets
Muse#0557: Yes thats what six is called
MythologicalZ#3752: hexa
MythologicalZ#3752: I think 3467 has hexa channel
Muse#0557: Wouldnt it be Sextuple
Muse#0557: Wait bo
Muse#0557: Dual not double
FantaStick#8008: They use hexa because people are too immature to refer to sextuple properly
FantaStick#8008: Also because words get ugly after that anyway
Alcyone#2233: turing and navi dont always play nice with leagacy bios boards
Muse#0557: Not surprised
Alcyone#2233: Also anything old enough to have no efi probably doesnt need a great gpu to reach its peak potential. I would think maybe a 1070/ti/1080 would be where the fps stopped scaling much
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Now that I have a 2600 and a 2060, I'm at the point where I start buying qol stuff, right?
Muse#0557: Its time to go appreciate your wife |
Muse#0557: And take car of the children
Muse#0557: Maybe visit the inlaws
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I finally made it to end game
JustinXenyx#8854: PFF you think you're at the end?
JustinXenyx#8854: THINK AGAIN
JustinXenyx#8854: Now you gotta buy an overkill rig!
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Fug
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Well I'm better off than I was before
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Kinda wanna get some more ram n a cooler
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Maybe a shadow rock 3 or smt
Ramiere#1840: I have a turtle beach headset that stopped working on my pc a while ago
I tested it in my android and it works fine but my pc doesnt pick up any sound from it even when plugged directly into the microphone port
Alcyone#2233: right click the speaker icon> sound settings and make sure its set as the input device
Ramiere#1840: Already did that |
Ramiere#1840: @here
Muse#0557: No
BigPierogi#3368: imagine trying to ping a shit ton of people
Muse#0557: Yeh
Muse#0557: Ban
Racey#8574: :smallbrain:
Ramiere#1840: You realize theres a difference between here and everyone right
Budget#8265: Why even try it mate
Budget#8265: Please can you justify trying to ping 350+ People
Ramiere#1840: It only pings active people
Budget#8265: It pings anyone online
Budget#8265: I use it for my livestreams
Budget#8265: @Ramiere
Budget#8265: So please do justify it for me
Ramiere#1840: I just did |
Budget#8265: Right well dont
Budget#8265: Dick move mate
Ramiere#1840: if you’re gonna ban me just do it
Budget#8265: Why would I ban you for that
Budget#8265: Its a Dick Move, yovue been warned
Ramiere#1840: Not that big of a deal i get like 20
Budget#8265: I dont get it
Ramiere#1840: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744348752654893106/image0.png
Ramiere#1840: Hundreds*
Budget#8265: I dont get your point
Budget#8265: You want to be banned?
Budget#8265: Cause you arent being banned, you were warned
Ramiere#1840: No i get hundreds of “here”s and “everyone”s i dont see the issue
Budget#8265: Cause 350+ People do NOT want to be pinged for no reason
Budget#8265: and I do not want that happening in my server |
Budget#8265: Tech Helpers are pingable if you needed help.
Budget#8265: Hence why I have the role
Ramiere#1840: And those two were of no help
Muse#0557: Nothing says tough as nails like joining a group and being a mild annoyance... People must tremble, bow down and obey your every will like their life depends on it
Ramiere#1840: You’re really being this dramatic over a ping. It’d be funny if it wasn’t stupid
Muse#0557: You're odd mate
Ramiere#1840: Says the guy who just typed whatever that was supposed to be
Muse#0557: Reset audio settings and sod off mate 🙏
Ramiere#1840: For “tech help” you give the equivalent of “have you tried turning it on and off again”
Muse#0557: Funny how being a bit of a dick gets you nowhere
Budget#8265: @Ramiere You gonna stop being a dick?
Budget#8265: Cause I dont appreciate that you wanted to ping 350+ people cause "The people wanting to help you" werent any good
Budget#8265: Mate its a yes or no
Budget#8265: Long time to type out a 2 or 3 letter word
Muse#0557: Im enjoying this |
Budget#8265: Hardly enjoyable
Ramiere#1840: Tell your bud to stop
Budget#8265: Mate
Budget#8265: Are you going to stop. yes. no.
Budget#8265: pick one
Ramiere#1840: Look through my messages ive been polite to everyone in here so when he stops ill stop
Budget#8265: Youve just been a dick to me, and I run the place
Budget#8265: So why the sudden change
Budget#8265: cause your messages are polite...and I have helped you before
Ramiere#1840: I wasnt a dick i said are you going to ban me
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744353037996392576/unknown.png
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744353054001856552/unknown.png
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744353079633117234/unknown.png
Budget#8265: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744353094980075592/unknown.png
Budget#8265: The attitude mate |
Budget#8265: Its rude
Ramiere#1840: Wasnt even talking to you in the first one
Budget#8265: fella. it doesnt matter
Budget#8265: you were a dick
Budget#8265: apologise, and move on
Budget#8265: @Ramiere
Budget#8265: Not staying around much longer so can we resolve this in the next 5 minutes
Budget#8265: Either Yes, or No.
Ramiere#1840: I told you as long as no one is rude to me i wont be rude to them
Budget#8265: Yes or No
Budget#8265: Thats is all I want to see as your next message
Budget#8265: Are you going to apologies and move on?
Budget#8265: @Ramiere
Ramiere#1840: Do what you’re gonna do im not apologizing to him for being rude to me
Budget#8265: You dont get it at all do you |
Muse#0557: Budget is being my year 3 teacher rn
Muse#0557: Listen fella im sorry
Muse#0557: Just please dont ping people and come off smug after 🙏
Budget#8265: You have had an apology, now are you going to do the same @Ramiere
Budget#8265: For anyone you think you *might* have been a bit of a dick to
Muse#0557: @MythologicalZ @Alcyone @TheFifthAce Is the Intel S3700 a good drive
TheFifthAce#4128: how much money what capacity
Muse#0557: Vs the 545s which is better
Muse#0557: 16 bucks for a 100gb
TheFifthAce#4128: gross
Muse#0557: Is it fast?
Muse#0557: I would guess not
TheFifthAce#4128: the s3700 has way lower write speeds
TheFifthAce#4128: :woag:
Muse#0557: Ty |
Muse#0557: Gonna pick up a second 545s then
TheFifthAce#4128: but immensely better iops
TheFifthAce#4128: which is what actually matters in an OS drive
Muse#0557: That's what i need
TheFifthAce#4128: 80,000 random writes vs 19,000
Muse#0557: A boot drive
TheFifthAce#4128: the s3700 is also mlc so it'll last longer
Muse#0557: Already have a 545s on the way
TheFifthAce#4128: s3700 is pretty gamer as an os drive
Muse#0557: Right so the 545s is going to be pulled out a lot in order to quickly test parts and have some games on it
Muse#0557: I need another ssd for a boot should i get a s3700
Muse#0557: Is it a pretty good boot drive
TheFifthAce#4128: sc?
Muse#0557: For pocket change
TheFifthAce#4128: intel doesnt make an SC lineup |
TheFifthAce#4128: :woag:
Muse#0557: Typo
TheFifthAce#4128: s3700 is gamer for boot
Muse#0557: Like above average?
TheFifthAce#4128: its still much faster than a hard drive
TheFifthAce#4128: its like 550/200 or something
Muse#0557: It'll do nicely
Muse#0557: Ty
Muse#0557: No clue how you know that off the top of your head
TheFifthAce#4128: zz
TheFifthAce#4128: I just remember stuff
TheFifthAce#4128: s3xxx is mlc shit
TheFifthAce#4128: and older mlc shit at that
Muse#0557: Yeh its ivy era
TheFifthAce#4128: so its going to have hella iops and hella lifespan |
TheFifthAce#4128: but slow writes because mlc
Muse#0557: How would it stack up a boot drive vs a 850 evo or something
Muse#0557: Or 850 pro
TheFifthAce#4128: 850 evo wins hands down
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah those drives get crushed by an 850 evo or pro
TheFifthAce#4128: 850 evo is not only twice as fast, it has like 100,000 iops or something
JustinXenyx#8854: but if we are staying realistic here
JustinXenyx#8854: most semi-modern satas are fine for a boot drive
TheFifthAce#4128: yees
TheFifthAce#4128: but comparatively
TheFifthAce#4128: the s3700 is a better boot drive
TheFifthAce#4128: :vibincat:
TheFifthAce#4128: are you usa
Muse#0557: I'll keep looking but it seems like a decent option
Muse#0557: UK |
Muse#0557: Sadly
TheFifthAce#4128: sad
Muse#0557: Need to find some peeps locally who sell stuff in bulk
TheFifthAce#4128: wackle
Muse#0557: Why is 40 quid for a s3700 on ebay
TheFifthAce#4128: enterprise hardware
TheFifthAce#4128: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Muse#0557: Some intel ssds are sata ii and 80gb are going for like 300
Muse#0557: And thats just a thing everywhere
Muse#0557: Usually the black ones
TheFifthAce#4128: if its sata ii that means its old enterprise hardware
TheFifthAce#4128: and probably cost that at release
Muse#0557: I get enterprise but whats justifies the mad prices of some intel ssds
Muse#0557: On paper most are meh
Alcyone#2233: probably collectors |
DarknessFalls229#2286: Unigine Heaven isnt running in threeway crossfire, but Valley is, but with horrible texture glitches. Any idea why?
Deleted User#0000: poor optimization maybe?
Deleted User#0000: I mean... 3 way crossfire was pretty unusual even back then
DarknessFalls229#2286: What?
MythologicalZ#3752: Force 1x1 mode in heaven
MythologicalZ#3752: terascale drivers suck
MythologicalZ#3752: only unigine bench without mgpu support is superposition, all the others have basic profiles
Gamefreak924#5901: how does one disable password prompts when doing admin stuff on Linux?
Gamefreak924#5901: linux is so bad for ease of use
Xbox 360 1953#2640: what
Gamefreak924#5901: chicken butt
Ramiere#1840: @MythologicalZ you busy?
MythologicalZ#3752: whats up
Ramiere#1840: So i have this headset that stopped working a while ago and idk why. The computer recognizes it but no sound comes through. I know the microphone isnt broken because i used it on a phone and it worked you have any idea whats wrong?
Ramiere#1840: Do phones and pcs use different bands? |
MythologicalZ#3752: Honestly, no clue
Ramiere#1840: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744628137647931522/image0.jpg
MythologicalZ#3752: not really into audio
Ramiere#1840: You think the one the pc is using is damaged
Ramiere#1840: Oh
Ramiere#1840: Welp thanks for trying anyway
MythologicalZ#3752: @JustinXenyx might know that sort of thing
JustinXenyx#8854: yeah nah you won't get a microphone signal with that connector on a PC
JustinXenyx#8854: that's TRRS, which is used in mobile stuffs
JustinXenyx#8854: you need a splitter
Ramiere#1840: Not plugged directly into the mic port?
Ramiere#1840: Before i used to use a controller with a headphone jack and that worked as a splitter until it mysteriously stopped working
Maybe the jack is damaged or something thanks though ill get the splitter
JustinXenyx#8854: No that's not how it works |
JustinXenyx#8854: you can't just plug it into a mic port and expect the microphone to work
JustinXenyx#8854: the pinout makes that literally impossible
JustinXenyx#8854: and no your controller wasn't a splitter
JustinXenyx#8854: controllers use the same TRRS jack pinout that phones do
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Trrs is what the combined headphone and mic ones are called? That's good to know
JustinXenyx#8854: Well that's technically what the connector is called
JustinXenyx#8854: 3.5mm TRRS can also have analog video on it
Ramiere#1840: It worked as the splitter for like 4 months though
Ramiere#1840: Mic > controller > pc and it worked
JustinXenyx#8854: It didn't work as a splitter though, that's fundamentally wrong
JustinXenyx#8854: Controllers literally use the exact same connector and exact same pinout as any mobile TRRS headset does
Muse#0557: Fellas how good is a intel Pro 1500
Muse#0557: Is it meh
Muse#0557: Good
Muse#0557: Bad |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > how does one disable password prompts when doing admin stuff on Linux?
@Gamefreak924 if ur tryna do sudo commands u just have to type it once and the rest of ur sudo commands wont ask for a password but if ur talking about that little window when u say install a package from the package manager etc... i have no idea xD
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: and u can type in terminal as root by typing sudo -i
Gamefreak924#5901: I cry
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: (aka u dont have to write sudo anymore)
Gamefreak924#5901: Also I'm trying to figure this out
Gamefreak924#5901: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744642804109672549/image0.jpg
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: why install wine from the terminal
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: what distro is this
Gamefreak924#5901: Linux Mint 17.3 MATE 32-bit
Gamefreak924#5901: I'm struggling
Gamefreak924#5901: The one in package manager is outdated apparently
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: welp i wouldve told u to go ask in the official linux server but theyre kinda dicks if its "nOt suPOrtEd" install a different "sUpOrted distro" if you want their help
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: oooorrrrrr
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: the linux mint server |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: *the dark side*
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: :GWlulurdMegaLul:
Gamefreak924#5901: The winehq website says that the command I used is for Mint 18.x
Gamefreak924#5901: I assumed it would work since there isn't anything for 17.x
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ask in linux mint server and if u still need help install something "supported" and try again if u have problems atleast u have them(official linux servee) to help
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but installing wine on say ubuntu is pretty straight forward just .....from the store xD
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: on mint too in the store i believe
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: but a newer version prol
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: WHY THE HELL DOES MY BRAIN CONFUSE THE WORD SERVER FOR DISTRO
Gamefreak924#5901: I'll try asking them
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: same amount of letters smh ?
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i edited it i meant mint server
Gamefreak924#5901: Dude
Gamefreak924#5901: The linux server is full of dicks
Gamefreak924#5901: They shot my request for help just because I was using Mint |
Gamefreak924#5901: They muted me for asking about wine support
Gamefreak924#5901: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmint/comments/953ld6/psa_avoid_the_official_discord_linux_server/
Gamefreak924#5901: This guy has it right
BigPierogi#3368: imagine joining a linux server
BigPierogi#3368: probably full of neckbeards who criticize you for not compiling your entire os
Ramiere#1840: _ _
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Can someone explain why this doesn't work? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744849983735464036/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744850026945183755/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but on my other server this works https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744850061006995576/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: nevermind I'm high as fuck
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: holly smokes thats the closest i ever was to seeing a new video....1 min ago! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744873795701047336/unknown.png
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSY9rDsQgd4
vegetal#8870: huh cool
vegetal#8870: will watch that later
FantaStick#8008: Tldr: MSI wins b550 unsurprisingly |
FantaStick#8008: Pro VDH wifi = best value board / baseline board for 3950x usage
FantaStick#8008: B550 gaming plus = best price / vrm performance
FantaStick#8008: Unsurprisingly b550 prime sucks ass, the pro4/ds3h are ok baseline boards for non OC 3950x
FantaStick#8008: Surprised the gigabyte boards didn't do better considering their vrm layout was pretty solid
vegetal#8870: no shock
JustinXenyx#8854: I am surprised at how good some budget B550s are when it comes to pure I/O
JustinXenyx#8854: Even if the prices are higher for B550, i think over all i would consider it to be worth the extra money
FantaStick#8008: Yeah I mean at 110$ the pro VDH wifi seems like a really good value
FantaStick#8008: At 130$ the gaming plus looks really good too
JustinXenyx#8854: Isn't the Pro VDH like barely above $100 without wifi?
Alcyone#2233: VDH and the Bazooka are just an updated b450 tommyhawk
DarknessFalls229#2286: Whooaaaaaaa wait. I have OCZ Platinums rated for 1866 9-9-9
DarknessFalls229#2286: At 1.65v
Alcyone#2233: thats not a great bin but its pretty good
DarknessFalls229#2286: My corsairs are rated for 1600 9-9-9-24 at 1.5v |
Alcyone#2233: 2400 cl9 in 4gb are dimms to get
DarknessFalls229#2286: Right, this isnt ddr2 voltages
DarknessFalls229#2286: Yeah, but i didnt know i had 1866 sticks
Alcyone#2233: if its the same capacity as the 1600 you should pop em in
DarknessFalls229#2286: Wdym pop em in?
Alcyone#2233: install the dimms
DarknessFalls229#2286: In what motherboard?
Alcyone#2233: 1155
DarknessFalls229#2286: The alienware?
Alcyone#2233: yeah
leewake9705#9644: as long as its not lga775 you should be good
DarknessFalls229#2286: Well, i wanna sell that thing _without_ my good ram
leewake9705#9644: yeah makes sense
leewake9705#9644: who are the dimms made by and how different are they
DarknessFalls229#2286: The OCZ plats or the randos i wanna put in? |
leewake9705#9644: what is the lowest speed out of all of them
DarknessFalls229#2286: Ah answering a question with another question
DarknessFalls229#2286: Im thinking 1333
Alcyone#2233: I am running some hynix 2400 but my ecs board will only boot up to 2133
leewake9705#9644: well then the board should just default to the lowest speed of all of the sticks
leewake9705#9644: and odd
leewake9705#9644: is one of the pins on the dimms not making a connection
Alcyone#2233: optimized from 2400 11-13-13 2t xmp to 2133 9-12-11 1t
DarknessFalls229#2286: Ah, skipping 9-11 like a true patriot
Alcyone#2233: no its just ecs things, it cant run 2400mts
Alcyone#2233: I would have done 9-11-11 if it could have ran it stable
Alcyone#2233: 1.7v is already needed for 9-12-11
leewake9705#9644: yeah
leewake9705#9644: all i did with my i think 3200 ram was xmp profile 1 (whatever gigabyte calls that at)
Alcyone#2233: also I havent got a cpu to run above 4.7 stable on this board, maybe its just coincidence but the 2550k and 3570k both top at the same clocks |
FantaStick#8008: Might be coincidence
leewake9705#9644: hmm
FantaStick#8008: Many of those sandy chips are degraded a bit by now
FantaStick#8008: I think the 2700k I sold off only hits 4.8 now
DarknessFalls229#2286: I think one of my 4gb sticks is faulty
Alcyone#2233: switched to ivy in the hope I could run 2400+ on ram since sandy tops at 2133
Alcyone#2233: same exact clockspeed is the max stable and it still cant boot the 2400xmp, such is life
leewake9705#9644: well i dont know much about newer intel sockets past 775 but i have heard of ecs and i thought they were server boards
Alcyone#2233: ecs is a budget brand like biostar
leewake9705#9644: ohh
FantaStick#8008: I wouldn't call them budget
FantaStick#8008: They're enterprise and business oriented
DarknessFalls229#2286: Memtest is good for stability testing right?
Alcyone#2233: my z77 was under $160 new
FantaStick#8008: They're not used to all the extra bells and whistles that consumer market uses |
Alcyone#2233: and its the 2nd best 1155 ecs made
FantaStick#8008: They're used to basic boards that just run reliabily for server
leewake9705#9644: i spent $71 on my gigabyte B450m DS3H
leewake9705#9644: new on amazon
Muse#0557: I'm getting my first mechanical keyboard
Muse#0557: Am hyped
leewake9705#9644: nice
FantaStick#8008: Wish supermicro would start making consumer boards
FantaStick#8008: I know they've made a few
leewake9705#9644: yeah i mean they would probally be best for stability becsaue of enterprise backround
Alcyone#2233: my board has post code display, pwr+rst button and voltage read points for multimeter
leewake9705#9644: wow
leewake9705#9644: i just have a basic board from gigabyte
leewake9705#9644: i could have got away with an a320 i found out
Alcyone#2233: also super O has made consumer boards since 1155 |
Alcyone#2233: you can get a z490 rn
FantaStick#8008: 90% of ryzen users would've been fine on a320
FantaStick#8008: But they overhyped OC on ryzen so much
leewake9705#9644: yeah
FantaStick#8008: Made everyone feel compelled to get an OC chipset
FantaStick#8008: Really wasn't necessary
Alcyone#2233: oc worked on 1st and 2nd gen
FantaStick#8008: Turn pbo on for same or better gaming performance
leewake9705#9644: yeah my dad has x470 and only has a R5 2600
Muse#0557: Alcone is the blackwidow a good keyboard
Alcyone#2233: 3rd gen its not really worth it
Alcyone#2233: I dunno man
FantaStick#8008: No razer keyboards are good
FantaStick#8008: Horrible QC
leewake9705#9644: yeah |
FantaStick#8008: Considering the price you pay for them
Alcyone#2233: Im sure it will be nice while it works
Muse#0557: I paid 19 quid for a TE
FantaStick#8008: 19 bucks is 19 bucks
FantaStick#8008: Better than 200$
FantaStick#8008: Lol
leewake9705#9644: yeah
Muse#0557: Better than my old ergonomic logitech
Muse#0557: It has a fucking shopping button
Muse#0557: And a proper volume dial
leewake9705#9644: i paid $10 for an old razer dome keyboard and the spacebar quit
FantaStick#8008: Tons of cheap mechanical keyboards out there
Muse#0557: Gonna have to clean the shit out of it when it shows up
FantaStick#8008: Rii makes some really good cheap mechanical keyboards and mice
Muse#0557: Looks quite grubby |
Muse#0557: Gonna drown the key caps in bleach
FantaStick#8008: Oh yeah I'd never buy a used kb/mouse just for the gross factor
Foxious#1859: And get rid of the paint?
Foxious#1859: @Muse ?
FantaStick#8008: Rubbing alcohol mate
leewake9705#9644: i know red dragon has some decent stuff for the price
Foxious#1859: But yes
FantaStick#8008: Red dragon is ok
Foxious#1859: isopropanol alcohol or windex is good
Foxious#1859: but it takes time
Muse#0557: Yeh i wouldn't actually use bleach
Muse#0557: Gonna clean it well tho
FantaStick#8008: I just used water and dish soap last time I cleaned my keycaps
leewake9705#9644: what i do to clean my keyboards is get some simple green and a old toothbrush and scrub until its clean
Foxious#1859: i cleaned up a Apple pro keyboard from 2000, and it was dirty as all fucking hell as they tend to be |
FantaStick#8008: Gotta let it dry for a while tho
Foxious#1859: but i cleaned it up and it is really nice
Foxious#1859: its awful for gaming
Foxious#1859: but the best i have used for typing
Muse#0557: I have an old logti
Muse#0557: It's ehh
Muse#0557: My friend got an ornata
Muse#0557: And it's dope
leewake9705#9644: i use an old dell entrprise keyboard from 2010 and its the best rubber dome keyboard there is imo
Foxious#1859: one of these, bloody brilliant https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744960881343070399/Rv487eS.png
FantaStick#8008: Bought a cheap 20$ mechanical keyboard from Amazon, desoldered the gateron blues and installed zeal PC zilents on there instead https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744960919620157602/IMG_20200730_202057.jpg
Foxious#1859: i seem to be in the minority who prefers his qurrent non mech over a mechanical
FantaStick#8008: Metal faceplate for 20$ was surprising
Foxious#1859: I had a G710 with lovely blue switches for a while
Foxious#1859: you know |
Foxious#1859: G710's are good arent they? got it for 20
Muse#0557: That dell looks comfy
Muse#0557: G710 looks overrated tbh
FantaStick#8008: Not all mechs are good
Foxious#1859: but i still prefer my old, cheap and quite bad propably Strike 3 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744961266615058452/02fCfQ5BtG2Zw01qtkJ3u1w-1.png
FantaStick#8008: It's all about the switches
Deleted User#0000: I'm still on one of these https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744961283358457977/5_537746-031.png
FantaStick#8008: I hate linear switches
FantaStick#8008: I need a bump
Foxious#1859: Muse
Foxious#1859: please
Muse#0557: Pottu
Foxious#1859: *Please* say that you didint mean that really
Foxious#1859: the dell thing
Foxious#1859: But if you didint know |
Muse#0557: The dell looks really good for typing
Foxious#1859: ***triggered***
FantaStick#8008: I should clean up and sell off my k70 lux
Foxious#1859: Is he even talking about my Apple pro keyboard?
Foxious#1859: or some else
leewake9705#9644: aura i had one of those and then hosed it off to get clean but then it didnt work after that i wonder why
Foxious#1859: am i missing something muse?
Muse#0557: Oh shit
Muse#0557: Yeh
Muse#0557: It's an apple
Foxious#1859: yes
Muse#0557: I didn't look close enough
Foxious#1859: the dell ones are not bad either
Foxious#1859: but that apple thing is on a next level
Foxious#1859: brilliant for typing as i said |
Foxious#1859: awful for gaming
Muse#0557: How much would an apple one be
Muse#0557: It looks godly
Foxious#1859: should not be much
FantaStick#8008: That curve would drive me insane
Foxious#1859: i got mine for 10 euro
leewake9705#9644: my dad had a g15 back in the day and that was a nice keyboard
Foxious#1859: but it was extremely dirty
FantaStick#8008: My first keyboard was a 2$ ps2 keyboard from microcenter
Foxious#1859: range from 20 to 200 @Muse
FantaStick#8008: Some inland plastic membrane crap
FantaStick#8008: But hey it worked
Foxious#1859: its apple branded so it costs a bit more, shame
Foxious#1859: its model 7803
FantaStick#8008: One day I'll buy a model M |
Foxious#1859: Apple Pro Keyboard
Foxious#1859: oh model m's
Foxious#1859: lovely
leewake9705#9644: i have a model m in storage
Muse#0557: I have an re20
Muse#0557: It's ehh
Muse#0557: Logitech
Muse#0557: Old
Muse#0557: Keys are fucked
leewake9705#9644: back when i lived in texas one guy at the end of the road put it in a pile of junk and my dad took it
Muse#0557: Some are harder to push down than others
Foxious#1859: i have one of these, it has the same type of mechanism as a Model M, it is quite nice https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744962456941625365/g_ibm_13600_1581892127.png
Foxious#1859: got that for 5 euro and it came with the manual
Foxious#1859: works fine
Foxious#1859: even the ribbon |
Foxious#1859: mine is in a better shape than the pictured
leewake9705#9644: wow
leewake9705#9644: my thrift store overprices these becasuse thwy dont know what they are
Foxious#1859: ah
Foxious#1859: thats why i recommend red cross thrift stores
Foxious#1859: they didint have a price on it, so i asked on the register
Foxious#1859: and the manager came and saw that it was a typewriter and sold it for me for 5 euro
Foxious#1859: the chap seemed to be pleased
leewake9705#9644: well i really only have one choice because i am overseas military which is the on base thrift store
Foxious#1859: i see
Foxious#1859: what country are you located in?
Foxious#1859: currently
leewake9705#9644: germany
Foxious#1859: but i mean as the overseas military thing
Foxious#1859: or is that germany |
leewake9705#9644: oh yeah overseas europe and in kiaserslaturen germany
Foxious#1859: i see
Foxious#1859: germans are lucky
Foxious#1859: as their tech stuff seems to be alot cheaper
FantaStick#8008: *precision German engineering*
Foxious#1859: at least compared to finland
leewake9705#9644: eh well when i go to the german stores i can only find the expensive stuff
Foxious#1859: i meant the ebay my friend
Foxious#1859: for example a C64 is alot cheaper there than in finland for example
Foxious#1859: new tech seems to be around the same price
leewake9705#9644: but the best deal i ever got at the on base thrift store was an old C2Q dell prebuilt for $10
leewake9705#9644: and oh
leewake9705#9644: yeah but its all pal and euro model
Foxious#1859: #🖨retro-chat🖨 ?
leewake9705#9644: well you only mentioned it once |
leewake9705#9644: I went to my local recycle center today and i found a corsair rm1000x
DarknessFalls229#2286: Jayses
DarknessFalls229#2286: Best i found in a bin was a phenom ii x6
leewake9705#9644: wow
leewake9705#9644: still cool
leewake9705#9644: but yeah i cheched the fuse and it wasnt blown and its a 2016 model its just i dont have the modular cables that it needs
Foxious#1859: uh 2016?
Foxious#1859: isint that from the time when corsair made absolute garbage psu's? atleast the CX series?
Foxious#1859: or was it that they fixed them in 2016?
Foxious#1859: you might want to check that
leewake9705#9644: i dont know its an RM and it looks skookum as frig
leewake9705#9644: its heavy
leewake9705#9644: and there are no scorch marks on the board becasue i looked
leewake9705#9644: couldnt find anything wrong
Foxious#1859: yes yes |
Foxious#1859: but the owner may have thrown it away before it popped
Foxious#1859: im doing some research on the matter
Foxious#1859: i will ping you after im done and tell you the conclusion
leewake9705#9644: ok
Foxious#1859: oh can i get the serial for that?
leewake9705#9644: sure lemme get it
leewake9705#9644: 170571250000M7540256
Foxious#1859: @leewake9705 after some digging
Foxious#1859: you should be safe
Foxious#1859: can you give the model number? i maybe able to check the warranty on that
Foxious#1859: for example seasonic focus gold's have 10 year warranties
leewake9705#9644: well i have already opened it to look for any problems so i think the warrant or what was left of it is over but i could give you it anyways
leewake9705#9644: RPS0018
Foxious#1859: oh it is one of these
Foxious#1859: very nice |
Foxious#1859: would be a part of my "original dream pc build" along with 1080ti FE with SLI, I7 7700K and coolermaster original H500
Foxious#1859: @leewake9705 10 years
leewake9705#9644: warranty right
Foxious#1859: that thing should be completly fine
Foxious#1859: yes warranty would be 10 years
leewake9705#9644: oh ok
leewake9705#9644: if i hadnt opened it
Foxious#1859: fine until 2026, if they dont mind it being opened
leewake9705#9644: yeaf
leewake9705#9644: yeah*
Foxious#1859: im sure you could talk them over that
Foxious#1859: i would still stress test it on an external system tho, if you havent put it into your main yet
Foxious#1859: something with a Pentium D and GTX 480 would not cost much but would stress it enough
leewake9705#9644: yeah it was sitting on a busted tv in the electronics bin and i was like RM100x
leewake9705#9644: and yeah |
leewake9705#9644: i mean the only problem is i have to buy the cables if i wanna use it
Foxious#1859: that is true
leewake9705#9644: and there are clearance ones on cablemod for $50
leewake9705#9644: but idk if i should do it
leewake9705#9644: but yeah i mean even if i did end up using it i would never get close to that 1000w becasue i have a R3 3200G and GTX1060
Foxious#1859: and it propably would not like it
Foxious#1859: as they are designed for a higher load
leewake9705#9644: yeah '
Foxious#1859: but would make for an ***excellent*** testing psu
leewake9705#9644: yeah
leewake9705#9644: i mean i have a thermaltake 650w in my main right now and its just fine
leewake9705#9644: its just when i was this i was like no way
leewake9705#9644: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744971279429402684/IMG_20200817_192918.jpg
leewake9705#9644: And it's spotless and this is how it was when I found it
Foxious#1859: very nice |
leewake9705#9644: yeah its like they never used it
leewake9705#9644: but thanks pottu98 for telling me about this stuff because i didnt know much about it exept for corsair and not blown up
Muse#0557: A. Whats the lowest end sku and highest end
Muse#0557: B. How much importance do we put on workstation vs gaming
Muse#0557: C. How do you want the cpus labelled
Muse#0557: this is for the cpu hierarchy
Muse#0557: D. Do we make multiple graphs
mi3night#2562: I say we make multiple graphs becuase mobile cpus exist too
FantaStick#8008: I would keep it to consumer platforms only
Alcyone#2233: maybe a productivity and gaming graph 2 in 1
FantaStick#8008: No enthusiast platforms
mi3night#2562: Also whats the timeline of the cpus ?
mi3night#2562: 2008-2020
mi3night#2562: Or 2010-2020
Alcyone#2233: and yes I would leave out hedt |
Muse#0557: People buy enthisiast tho
Muse#0557: for gaming
Muse#0557: i want to show x58 is a bad option
Alcyone#2233: x79 and x99
mi3night#2562: So 2008-2020
FantaStick#8008: Bottom line 775/x58 then?
mi3night#2562: Ok no cpus older than 775
Muse#0557: oldest cpu ill put on there is final gen 775 C2D
mi3night#2562: Leave out server e7
FantaStick#8008: Bottom tier should be the missing instructions tier
mi3night#2562: And opteron
Alcyone#2233: im pretty sure x58 is only still considered because of TYC vids
FantaStick#8008: Opteron is too wack to put on a list
FantaStick#8008: It sucks anyway
mi3night#2562: People who buys bulldozer opteron in 2020:brainlet: |
Alcyone#2233: opteron whack after athlon 64 based
mi3night#2562: Ikr
Muse#0557: I think 2 graphs is a good option
Muse#0557: Productivity and Gaming
Alcyone#2233: just gaming would paint amd in a bad light I think
mi3night#2562: Also if it pure performance based or value @Muse
Alcyone#2233: when their new cpus are the best all rounders for the money
Muse#0557: Performance
mi3night#2562: Oh ok
Muse#0557: I plan to do a different graph for what to buy at price points
mi3night#2562: You cant just tell everyone to buy 10600k
Alcyone#2233: am4 is the new 1155
Muse#0557: 1155 is sex
Alcyone#2233: 1155 is the new 775
mi3night#2562: What about 1151 |
Alcyone#2233: its 1151
mi3night#2562: 1151 is the new 478
FantaStick#8008: I mean productivity will pain Intel in a bad light as well
mi3night#2562: Oh
FantaStick#8008: It's only fair
mi3night#2562: In gaming ryzen is gonna suffer on high end
Muse#0557: 1151 isnt new anything
Muse#0557: amirite
Muse#0557: bazinga
mi3night#2562: 1151 was good
mi3night#2562: Now its a meme
FantaStick#8008: Not really
mi3night#2562: I mean 8700k days
Muse#0557: Yeh when ryzen had no ipc
FantaStick#8008: 1151-v2 is not a meme |
mi3night#2562: Oh
FantaStick#8008: 1151-v1 is a meme
mi3night#2562: I forgot v2 v3 exists
Muse#0557: Ryzen 4000 is going to be about on par
Muse#0557: tbh
Muse#0557: call it buy its gen name not v2
Muse#0557: coffee lake
mi3night#2562: Yeah coffee lake is the way to go if ur gaming
FantaStick#8008: They separate it because coffee lake compatibility
mi3night#2562: Right now zen3000 is capable
mi3night#2562: Thats so dumb
FantaStick#8008: It's called 1151-v2 for 8th+9th formally
mi3night#2562: Imagine buying z270
FantaStick#8008: I mean if you bios mod it
mi3night#2562: True |
FantaStick#8008: Cha Cha real smooth
mi3night#2562: @Muse start from bottom to top
mi3night#2562: That way its easier
Muse#0557: Listen
Muse#0557: who here has made a frobot graph before
mi3night#2562: I did it once for fun
FantaStick#8008: I mean frobot is just an image
Muse#0557: going from the top is much easier
mi3night#2562: Oh
Alcyone#2233: I want a kaby only x299 and a 7640x
mi3night#2562: I went bottom to top
mi3night#2562: I thought that was easier
Muse#0557: What im going to do is pop 3950x at the top
Muse#0557: e8400 at the bottom
Muse#0557: and 2400 in the middle |
FantaStick#8008: No
Alcyone#2233: 2500k is low end
mi3night#2562: Productivity ?
FantaStick#8008: 2500k is low end
Muse#0557: for gaming
mi3night#2562: Gaming?
Alcyone#2233: even for games
FantaStick#8008: Middle low end
Muse#0557: We are having 2 graphs
mi3night#2562: I think 10600k and 10700k should be top
Alcyone#2233: 2600x and 9600k need to be the mids
Muse#0557: 9600k isnt mid
Muse#0557: i want to make mid what most people buy
Muse#0557: hense why the 1060 was mid on the gpu
Muse#0557: and it worked well |
FantaStick#8008: Ehhh
Alcyone#2233: what do most people buy?
FantaStick#8008: I think mid should really be the middle
Muse#0557: if i put 2600x at the mid
Muse#0557: the low end is gonna be crammed
FantaStick#8008: It is tho
Muse#0557: and all the way to the top is marginal step ups
FantaStick#8008: CPUs have been moving so fast
Alcyone#2233: anything with no avx instructions needs to be super low end
Muse#0557: i think that haswell should be mid tbh
Muse#0557: 4690k
FantaStick#8008: No
Muse#0557: that seems reasonable
FantaStick#8008: 4770k mid
Alcyone#2233: I think that is upper low end |
FantaStick#8008: 4690k get either low mid or high low
Alcyone#2233: haswell i7 could be lower mid range
FantaStick#8008: ^
FantaStick#8008: Broadwell memes tho
FantaStick#8008: *the true midrange*
Muse#0557: I dont want to make the graph useless, if i put something too strong at the mid
Muse#0557: itll be so crampt
FantaStick#8008: How would the graph be useless
Alcyone#2233: because with new gamer gpus, a haswell i7 is gonna be the lowest that will carry them
FantaStick#8008: We are grouping CPUs I thought
FantaStick#8008: Are we doing individual skus?
Muse#0557: because itll look like theres the same difference between an e8400 and 2500k that there is between a 2600x and 10700k
FantaStick#8008: There's way to many individual skus
Alcyone#2233: i would leave out oc results
wiryfuture🦀#1706: frobot graph for cpu |
Alcyone#2233: because of that
Muse#0557: yes philip
FantaStick#8008: Minimum spec for a lot of modern titles is surprisingly high
Muse#0557: im going to put an i5 3470 where i put the 1060
Muse#0557: and roll from there
Alcyone#2233: you can oc locked ivy to beat locked lake
FantaStick#8008: Haswell i7s barely cut it
Alcyone#2233: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744994614511140864/4.1ghz.png
Muse#0557: cpu is harder
Muse#0557: theres not as large jumps
FantaStick#8008: I think you should put r3 1200 as midrange then
FantaStick#8008: If you wanna space things out
Muse#0557: the 1200 is a 2400
Muse#0557: ffs
Alcyone#2233: I think 3100 and 3300x should be the gauge for mid range |
Muse#0557: they are so close
Muse#0557: I think alcyone has it
FantaStick#8008: 1200 slightly better
Alcyone#2233: they are $100 and $120 or should be
FantaStick#8008: Bad example tbh
Muse#0557: yeh thatd make it equiv to a 1060 on the other graph
Muse#0557: would work well
FantaStick#8008: R5 1400 then
Muse#0557: We're gonna try 3100
FantaStick#8008: Or do the best selling 1600
Alcyone#2233: 1400 is okay, but not much ahead of a 3770k
Muse#0557: Gotta think of a good way to present it
Alcyone#2233: we're gonna be arguing over this for the next 3 months
Muse#0557: How would i right 3rd gen ryzen r3 nicely
FantaStick#8008: Just make it and we will try to rework it |
Muse#0557: Zen 2 R3
Muse#0557: ?
Muse#0557: R3 3000
Muse#0557: Ryzen 3 3xxx
FantaStick#8008: I just thought putting ivy i5 as midrange makes the chips seem a lot better than they actually are
Muse#0557: etc
Alcyone#2233: just do the product number
Muse#0557: I dont want to do model numbers
Muse#0557: especially for ivy and stuff
Alcyone#2233: not ernough people know zen, zen+, zen2
Muse#0557: gonna be a mess
FantaStick#8008: Do Ryzen 3 3XXX
Alcyone#2233: well like
intel 2xxx
amd 2xxx |
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