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FantaStick#8008: Ryzen 5 1XXX
Muse#0557: Intel i5 2xxx
Alcyone#2233: yee
Muse#0557: that works
FantaStick#8008: Yeah normies don't know the Zen vs ryzen staggering thing
Muse#0557: but i know itll be hard to read once there are 40 things down
Muse#0557: yanow
Muse#0557: itll start looking samey
FantaStick#8008: AMD r3 3XXX then
Muse#0557: I dont right AMD
Muse#0557: I have the colour coding for that
FantaStick#8008: Oh ok
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/744995916938870824/Hierarchy_V3.png
Muse#0557: See
Muse#0557: Realising i didnt test the intel blue |
Muse#0557: on the blue background
Muse#0557: gonna have to adjust both graphs
Alcyone#2233: intel uhd 630 is gonna be on 11th gen smh
Muse#0557: ffs
FantaStick#8008: Yike
FantaStick#8008: I think they gave up on 11th gen lol
FantaStick#8008: Just waiting for 10nm
Alcyone#2233: its not good
Alcyone#2233: 11th gen is a backported 10nm design
FantaStick#8008: Hmm
Alcyone#2233: so they cant fit as many transistors in a 14nm package
Muse#0557: Atleast call it UHD 730
Muse#0557: and oc it
Alcyone#2233: words on the wind is 11th gen tops at 8 cores
mi3night#2562: Call it UHD X |
mi3night#2562: Cuz anything with X sounds cool
FantaStick#8008: Hopefully they make it cheap or something
FantaStick#8008: Cause this is going to be a slaughter
Alcyone#2233: the new 8c amd apu is gonna make the intel igpu look like a vtech kids toy
Muse#0557: Fellas gimme a few mins
Muse#0557: need to make the graph more distinguished
Alcyone#2233: the entire intel Xe gpu is just a hype builder for the new intel igpu
Alcyone#2233: its intel i740 v2
FantaStick#8008: I really hope xe is good
FantaStick#8008: Need more competition to help knock Nvidia prices down
wiryfuture🦀#1706: more cheap hardware that is good :haha: :crome:
wiryfuture🦀#1706: intel xe gonna be the ryzen of gpus? lmao
Kacpreusz#7656: My Acer completely died and a working computer is urgent for me
Kacpreusz#7656: I found 3 decent deals
Kacpreusz#7656: Compaq 610 Core 2 Duo T5870, 3gb ram broken speakers and battery, power supply included 199PLN |
Del Latitude XT good condition battery works stylus is broken Core 2 Duo U7700 3GB ram unknown hard drive nie power supply included 250PLN
Dell Latitude D830 Core 2 Duo T7500 2GB ram, HDD 320gb power supply included, broken battery 249PLN
Kacpreusz#7656: Wich one will be the best?
Kacpreusz#7656: I can always upgrade ram and hard drive to ssd
Alcyone#2233: intel Xe is gonna be a nothing sandwich
Alcyone#2233: radeon if good is gonna try and match nvidia pricing as close as possible while getting sales like they did with navi 1
Alcyone#2233: When ryzen surpasses intel in every category with ryzen 5000, they are gonna be priced above intel
Alcyone#2233: b550/x570 is only getting 2 generations of cpus
Muse#0557: @Alcyone It still has the old gpu stuff but this is the layout im going to use for the cpu to distinguish between the two
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745001264995368970/CPU_Hierarchy_V1.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: Cursed
Muse#0557: Its supposed to be
DarknessFalls229#2286: Right indented |
Alcyone#2233: i am almost done with my $15 frobot pc
Muse#0557: What do you think
Alcyone#2233: looks good
Muse#0557: if we use this layout for cpu
Muse#0557: didnt take me as long as i expected
JustinXenyx#8854: flip it back
JustinXenyx#8854: english doesn't go from right to left
Muse#0557: I can read it just fine
Muse#0557: Its not going to be written left to right
Muse#0557: this is for the cpu graph so that they look different
Muse#0557: just has the gpu stuff so i could line it up
mi3night#2562: @Muse do one for mobile gpu
Muse#0557: Lmao no
Muse#0557: you do one if you want
Muse#0557: ill send the psd |
Muse#0557: im a semi neat worker
Muse#0557: so you should be fine
Alcyone#2233: I just made a hot ham and cheese sandwich in a hamburger bun, its pretty good
Muse#0557: help with this
mi3night#2562: 10600k
mi3night#2562: 10600k, 9700k, 8700k
Alcyone#2233: i wouldnt even add the xt cpu or just make them the same
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745006952274198668/unknown.png
Muse#0557: Im handling K and T in the same i did with the R9 290/X for instance
Muse#0557: consistency
Alcyone#2233: and from anecdotal experience, the 9700k and 8700k perform about the same
mi3night#2562: What about 10600k
mi3night#2562: 8086k
Muse#0557: 9700k is a 8 core isnt it
mi3night#2562: 8t |
Alcyone#2233: yes but no HT
Muse#0557: oh shit yeh
Alcyone#2233: I had 8086k and have 9700k, there is no difference in games
Muse#0557: do i bother with the non k
Muse#0557: like the i9 9900
Alcyone#2233: I wouldnt
mi3night#2562: No
Muse#0557: kinda cant be bothered
Alcyone#2233: DIY dont really buy intel non k
mi3night#2562: No one buys those cpus anyways
mi3night#2562: Like the X and XT cpus no one buys them
Muse#0557: I want include some hedt
Muse#0557: but shouldnt include x299 or tr4/x
mi3night#2562: Nah
mi3night#2562: @Muse on gaming chart dont |
mi3night#2562: On workstation chart yes
Alcyone#2233: if you want budget you get an affordable ryzen instead of getting cucked by inel locked
Muse#0557: Im making one chart i think
Muse#0557: idk
Muse#0557: 2 is effort
mi3night#2562: No one buys HEDT for gaming
Alcyone#2233: x79 and x99 are still fairly popular
Muse#0557: Im going to include x99, x79 and x58
mi3night#2562: Fair
Muse#0557: just because theyre considered
MythologicalZ#3752: except for the bunch of people buying 1366 and 2011
mi3night#2562: I mean new
Alcyone#2233: put x58 in the FX tier
mi3night#2562: @MythologicalZ i mean super high end
mi3night#2562: Like TR4 and 3647 |
Muse#0557: x58 is close to 775 ipc wise
Muse#0557: its not good
MythologicalZ#3752: tr4 is dead, there are people who buy 3467
MythologicalZ#3752: muh bandwidth for 2080ti sli
Alcyone#2233: ive used a locked 1366, made me not want to oc one
mi3night#2562: Also
mi3night#2562: High U
Muse#0557: So fellas
Alcyone#2233: smok trees
mi3night#2562: R5 3600, 10400f, 9600k
Muse#0557: is 9600k 6c6t
mi3night#2562: Thats the next tier down
Alcyone#2233: like california
mi3night#2562: Yes
mi3night#2562: Ayyy thats whats up |
Alcyone#2233: the only ht 9th gen is i9
mi3night#2562: I3 9100f?
Alcyone#2233: that had to do that to make 10th gen compelling at all
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745008393957408898/unknown.png
Muse#0557: we happy
Muse#0557: every time i send the progress just say yes or no
Muse#0557: if theres something wrong say
mi3night#2562: No 10400f
Alcyone#2233: 11th gen is gonna be a hard sell, I feel like its gonna be slower than 10th with its only redeeming feature being pcie 4.0
Muse#0557: 10400f need to be there
Muse#0557: so does 8600k
mi3night#2562: I guess
MythologicalZ#3752: 3800 and 3700 are basically the same thing
Muse#0557: is there a regular 3700
MythologicalZ#3752: no |
mi3night#2562: 3800+3700 = 6900
MythologicalZ#3752: or maybe idk, probably oem
MythologicalZ#3752: there is a non x 3900
mi3night#2562: Ok high mid is gonna be hard
mi3night#2562: Muse
Muse#0557: the 3700x does need to go up
mi3night#2562: High mid hmmmmmm
mi3night#2562: R7 2700x???
Muse#0557: id say 2700x belong in high upper
MythologicalZ#3752: 10600k when tuned and oced beats i9 and all of ryzen in a bunch of games
MythologicalZ#3752: 2700x is slow
mi3night#2562: I mean workstation
MythologicalZ#3752: mem caps at 3200, basically only pbo tuning
MythologicalZ#3752: most people just game
Muse#0557: So high upper |
Muse#0557: or high mid
mi3night#2562: In gaming high low
Muse#0557: because id say it belongs with a 8600k atleast
Muse#0557: and a 10400f
Muse#0557: the 2700 is going a tier below tho
mi3night#2562: So high mid or high low
Muse#0557: 2700X is going in high upper
Muse#0557: i doubt its weaker than a 8600k
mi3night#2562: Kek helpers u all agree?
Alcyone#2233: 2700x better than 6c6t intel all around
Muse#0557: might move the 8600k down tbh
Muse#0557: its not near the 10400f or 3600
Muse#0557: idk
Muse#0557: i hate this
Muse#0557: cpu is too hard |
Alcyone#2233: there may be some games where the intel cpu beats it, but the more cores and HT are gonna carry the amd in others
mi3night#2562: Thats what she said
Alcyone#2233: and even with the lower fps you may get on ryzen, the min fps will probably be as good or better
Muse#0557: gotta be fair to a cpu
Muse#0557: also consider the future a tad
Alcyone#2233: and lets be honest, the minimum fps matter the most
Muse#0557: like we gimped vega because it wont last
mi3night#2562: Sooooo 2700x belongz
mi3night#2562: Upper high
mi3night#2562: Ok next cpu
mi3night#2562: R5 2600
mi3night#2562: High low
Alcyone#2233: 2700x is above intel 6c6t but below intel 8th+ 6c12t and 8c8t for gaming
mi3night#2562: I5 8400f high low
mi3night#2562: 9400f is also high low |
mi3night#2562: R5 1600af high low
Alcyone#2233: 2600 and 1600af should be the same
mi3night#2562: Yeah but people will ask about it
Muse#0557: brb lads
mi3night#2562: So might as well put both
Alcyone#2233: minimal difference, if the margin is below 10% I call it close enough
mi3night#2562: I know:Crome:
mi3night#2562: I mean might as well put it there
mi3night#2562: To let people know
Alcyone#2233: shout out to intel users razzing amds because they get 165fps vs 145
mi3night#2562: Also what about 1800x
mi3night#2562: Upper mid?
mi3night#2562: Or high low
mi3night#2562: Oh yeah nvm
mi3night#2562: R3 3100 exists |
Alcyone#2233: 14nm ryzen was not a great gamer cpu
mi3night#2562: 3300x is also high low
mi3night#2562: So is 3100 and 10100
Muse#0557: I tried to roughly outline the whole graph and I think we are spreading the high end too much..
Muse#0557: Like having the x3440 within distance of a e8400 is a crime
mi3night#2562: But we dont want people to think that r5 1600 is a high end cpu
Muse#0557: I mean relatively speaking it is
Muse#0557: Cheap hardware now is more powerful than its ever been
Kacpreusz#7656: Compaq 610 Core 2 Duo T5870, 3gb ram broken speakers and battery, power supply included 199PLN
Dell Latitude XT good condition battery works stylus is broken Core 2 Duo U7700 3GB ram unknown hard drive nie power supply included 250PLN
Dell Latitude D830 Core 2 Duo T7500 2GB ram, HDD 320gb power supply included, broken battery 249PLN
Kacpreusz#7656: Wich one should i buy?
Kacpreusz#7656: Hard drive will be replaced with my SSD and over time i will upgrade ram |
JustinXenyx#8854: Probably none of those if i'm honest
Kacpreusz#7656: I need something asap
Kacpreusz#7656: and my budget is tight
Muse#0557: Does it have to be a laptop
Muse#0557: And what's it used for
Kacpreusz#7656: Until very recently i was just fine with a Pentium T4200
Kacpreusz#7656: Web browsing, watching movies, old games
Kacpreusz#7656: Preferibly a laptop
Muse#0557: Honestly a T5870 for 40 quid isn't bad
Muse#0557: Plus ddr2 ram costs literal pocket change
Kacpreusz#7656: I think this Compaq has ddr3
Kacpreusz#7656: And if it does, i can instantly put in 8gb from my dead Acer
Kacpreusz#7656: If it didn't die with the motherboard
Muse#0557: It has a 800mhz fsb so
Muse#0557: I'd assume its ddr2 |
Kacpreusz#7656: My Acer also had 800mhz fsb
Muse#0557: Oof
Muse#0557: It's DDR2
Muse#0557: Just googled
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745014069542649976/41OjI5mwtYL._AC_SY400_.jpg
Muse#0557: Also for the era that's not a bad STB ratio
Kacpreusz#7656: I'd say the Latitude D830 would be the best, i have trust for older dells
Muse#0557: If you want to spend the extra go for it
Kacpreusz#7656: rn i'm forced to use a 2002 Latitude C640
Muse#0557: It's like what 50 bucks
Muse#0557: I would save up tbh
Muse#0557: Or use a pc
Muse#0557: But 50 quid isn't bad
Kacpreusz#7656: School starts in like 3 weeks and most likely it will be online classes agin
Muse#0557: Alot of sockets back then were pga so you might even be able to upgrade the cpu |
Kacpreusz#7656: I know
Kacpreusz#7656: I wanted to upgrade my Acer to a Core 2 Duo P8700 but it completely died today
Muse#0557: I would get the XT tbh
Kacpreusz#7656: No reaction to power button or charger, i tried multiple chargers
Kacpreusz#7656: Why?
JustinXenyx#8854: You have 3 weeks, right?
JustinXenyx#8854: I would probably try to scratch up a little more cash and see if you can build a basic PC or something along those lines
JustinXenyx#8854: It'll be a way better experience than an old laptop and you can probably get more for your money than going with a laptop
Kacpreusz#7656: If the XT uses standard Sata 2,5inch drives i may buy it
Muse#0557: Batteries for old laptops tend to be overpriced so you'd have to drop another 25 for the D830 which you might aswell just buy a pc with
Kacpreusz#7656: A pc would be cool but i live with my sisters in one room so i would get absolutely 0 privacy with a pc
Kacpreusz#7656: In like a year i'm moving to another house then i will save up for a decent pc
Muse#0557: "Can't jack off therefore don't want"
Kacpreusz#7656: not that
Kacpreusz#7656: i just don't like someone constantly looking at my screen |
Kacpreusz#7656: So annyoing
Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745016262702137344/Screenshot_20200817-222809.png,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745016262895337644/Screenshot_20200817-222820.png,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745016263352254626/Screenshot_20200817-222828.png
Kacpreusz#7656: The XT has the slowest processor and i bet it's soldered to the motherboard
Kacpreusz#7656: The Compaq may be soldered
Muse#0557: Google man
Kacpreusz#7656: The D830 has the fastest cpu doesn't it?
JustinXenyx#8854: i mean they won't perform that different if we're honest
JustinXenyx#8854: we're talking about 100Mhz clock differences as far as i remember
Kacpreusz#7656: I can always put in my Pentium if it's supported and if it's any faster
Kacpreusz#7656: The Dell 100% has socket P
Kacpreusz#7656: the not tablety one
JustinXenyx#8854: if anything your T4200 is worse than even the slowest Core 2 Duo on there
JustinXenyx#8854: You're getting an "upgrade" either way
leewake9705#9644: I saw a latitude D610 in the bin today but i didnt bother to pick it up becasuse a part of it was in water
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745017925265522768/unknown.png |
Muse#0557: @Alcyone hella rough
Muse#0557: but like
JustinXenyx#8854: if i'm honest, a CPU list like that is gonna get way too complicated way too quick
BigPierogi#3368: what about
BigPierogi#3368: instead of listing specific cpus
BigPierogi#3368: you list something like
BigPierogi#3368: 2nd gen i7
BigPierogi#3368: for the older ones
Kacpreusz#7656: Really? That's cool
Muse#0557: Yeh im going to
Muse#0557: Just easy to type out 2600k for the planning
Kacpreusz#7656: Alright so i'm getting the D830 i guess
Kacpreusz#7656: Unless the DX has a standard 2.5" drive
Kacpreusz#7656: XT*
Kacpreusz#7656: It does not |
Kacpreusz#7656: So D830 it is
Kacpreusz#7656: I think o should be able to swap the battery cells to it from my Acer with some blyatiful Slavic engineering skills i have :8bitsandconstantlyswapping:
Alcyone#2233: if you dont use it on the go cant you just run it with no battery?
leewake9705#9644: well can you buy replacement d830 batteries in your country
leewake9705#9644: i saw a d610 in the electronics bin today but the left side of it got wet so i didnt end up getting it but it was reteavley old with a windows xp pro coa
Kacpreusz#7656: I can but it would be neet to have a working battery
Kacpreusz#7656: Replacements ain't expensive https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745047805470703725/Screenshot_20200818-003046.png
Kacpreusz#7656: Good known brand replacements are double the price https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745047889176297522/Screenshot_20200818-003326.png
Kacpreusz#7656: And from my experience both are gonna work just as well
leewake9705#9644: well at least you can buy batteries in your country
leewake9705#9644: but what were you planning to use the laptop for since it is only a C2D laptop
Gamefreak924#5901: My netbook's OS says I have 1GB RAM installed but CPU-Z puts it as 2004MB (~2GB). What could be the issue?
JustinXenyx#8854: RAM stick not inserted correctly @Gamefreak924
JustinXenyx#8854: If CPU Z can read out the memory info but the OS doesn't recognize it, it is almost always RAM that isn't inserted right
FantaStick#8008: or the OS is just being a tard |
FantaStick#8008: but never hurts to do a nice reseat
Gamefreak924#5901: There is only one stick as well
Gamefreak924#5901: Is it possible for the ram seating to still be the problem?
Budget#8265: Ive had RAM die that did that
Gamefreak924#5901: Hmm interesting. Guess I'll check it
Gamefreak924#5901: Didn't wanna do it because I have to take apart the whole base of the laptop just to get to the memory
Kacpreusz#7656: > but what were you planning to use the laptop for since it is only a C2D laptop
@leewake9705 Use it daily
Kacpreusz#7656: For like a year
Kacpreusz#7656: Then i will build a decent pc and this laptop will be like a toy for screwing around with Linux
Gamefreak924#5901: C2D can still hold up as long as you have a good gpu
Gamefreak924#5901: I gave my girlfriend a core2 laptop
Kacpreusz#7656: It has Intel GMA
Kacpreusz#7656: But i hardly ever play games on my computer
Gamefreak924#5901: egpu |
Gamefreak924#5901: If you want to be cheap and don't care to game on the go, it could be worth it
JustinXenyx#8854: usually the cash invested into an eGPU setup can be put right into a proper desktop
Gamefreak924#5901: For my girlfriend's laptop, I did the following:
Upgraded to an SSD
Upgraded RAM to 4GB
Got a smartcard egpu kit
Gamefreak924#5901: Sometimes people still need a laptop to use on the go. Egpu setup with having just an old card laying around costed me $65 or so
JustinXenyx#8854: *with an old card laying around* is the big catch imo
Gamefreak924#5901: I mean if you want a cheap card, you can get a GT 1030
JustinXenyx#8854: if you had to buy a GPU it would have been cheaper to build a low-end desktop
Gamefreak924#5901: Nah
JustinXenyx#8854: hell a lot of decent budget desktops can be built for $100-150
Gamefreak924#5901: Well yeah just take an old Optiplex and stick a new graphics card in it
Gamefreak924#5901: But I'm saying if they also want a laptop to take around places and somewhat have the option for on-the-go gaming, that's it
Gamefreak924#5901: My girlfriend doesn't really have the space for a desktop anyway lol |
Kacpreusz#7656: 4gb isn't much
Kacpreusz#7656: of ram
Kacpreusz#7656: Unless you're on win 7
JustinXenyx#8854: If you wanted something for on-the-go gaming chances are you'd buy a more powerful laptop
JustinXenyx#8854: I'm all for eGPU setups, especially with Thunderbolt around. But they're fucking stupid if they don't make sense
Gamefreak924#5901: She's on 10
Kacpreusz#7656: I dont care about going outside with my laptop, leave alone gaming outside
Gamefreak924#5901: 4GB is still fair if you want to be budget conscious
JustinXenyx#8854: Christ what on fucking earth is she doing with Windows 10 on 4GB of RAM
Lady Mipha#0611: ^
Gamefreak924#5901: She just programs, messes with Unity, and will be doing light gaming
Gamefreak924#5901: And web browsing
Lady Mipha#0611: :Bruhh:
Kacpreusz#7656: i hope it's 32bit
Gamefreak924#5901: She hasn't had any issues. 64-bit |
Kacpreusz#7656: Well my mom also has 4gb of ram in her Vaio and she also has windows 10
Gamefreak924#5901: The laptop actually goes a bit faster than my more recent Celeron laptop that I'm stuck using lol
JustinXenyx#8854: I can only imagine her pain
Kacpreusz#7656: But she only does basic tasks
Gamefreak924#5901: Pain?
Gamefreak924#5901: You don't need good specs to program
JustinXenyx#8854: My current Opera tabs take up 4GB **ON THEIR OWN**
JustinXenyx#8854: :haha:
Gamefreak924#5901: That's a you problem then
Gamefreak924#5901: She hasn't reported any issues
Gamefreak924#5901: Besides, her only other option for a computer is her school-provided chromebook lolol
JustinXenyx#8854: What Chromebook is it?
JustinXenyx#8854: ARM or x86?
Gamefreak924#5901: I don't have the specs. I'll have to look at it next time I go over there
Gamefreak924#5901: Suffice to say, she uses the laptop I gave her a lot more than the chromebook |
Gamefreak924#5901: laptop memory can be expensive at times, otherwise I would have gotten her an 8GB kit
Gamefreak924#5901: The laptop is an Inspiron 1525 by the way
JustinXenyx#8854: > laptop memory can be expensive at times, otherwise I would have gotten her an 8GB kit
that's precisely why at a certain point you're probably better off building a full desktop or actually getting a newer laptop
Gamefreak924#5901: I considered the cost
Gamefreak924#5901: Hence why I didn't get her a newer laptop
Gamefreak924#5901: I maybe put in about $80 or so into the laptop. Not anywhere near enough to merit just getting a new one
Gamefreak924#5901: Besides, it did give me an excuse to get the laptop off of my hands haha
Gamefreak924#5901: Dang I was really hoping the memory on that netbook was actually 2GB, but no, only one T_T
Gamefreak924#5901: And the only spare ram sticks I have are 1GB. RIP
Kacpreusz#7656: Now i'm forced to live with a Dell Latitude C640 - Pentium 4M 1.8ghz, 1GB ddr ram, 60gb pata 5400rpm HDD in very bad condition
Kacpreusz#7656: Idk if i should stay on Windows XP or install Tiny7 or Debian LXDE
leewake9705#9644: well
leewake9705#9644: guessing you dont have another computer to use you could try to install an old version of ubuntu or windows 7 basic
Kacpreusz#7656: Now i don't |
leewake9705#9644: but 1 gb ram
leewake9705#9644: you dont have any more
Kacpreusz#7656: Nope, i only have ddr3 ram sticks
leewake9705#9644: ah so thats why you want that d830
Kacpreusz#7656: And as far as i know, 1gb is the maximum it can take
leewake9705#9644: well then again i have not seen a c640 in a long time
leewake9705#9644: and yeah it only has a fire for a processor
Kacpreusz#7656: Yes
Kacpreusz#7656: It gets so fking hot
leewake9705#9644: has the plastic on the computer melted together yet?
Kacpreusz#7656: Freshly cleaned heatsink, lubricated fan, new fairly decent thermal paste, still blows with flames
Kacpreusz#7656: No it hasn't yet
leewake9705#9644: wow
leewake9705#9644: thats a feat in itself
leewake9705#9644: my dad had one of the first pentium dual cores and he forgot to clean it one time and it melted together and there is a burn mark of where it was on the desk |
leewake9705#9644: it was an asus a7j
Kacpreusz#7656: Bruh
leewake9705#9644: but kacpreusz you were the one talking about that acer laptop that died right?
Kacpreusz#7656: My Pentium dual core Acer was also getting pretty hot
leewake9705#9644: yeah
Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745210918236848148/20200818_112134.jpg
Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745211019886067762/20200818_112201.jpg
leewake9705#9644: i found an old dell laptop from 2006 that had a pentium dual core and it only had 2gb of ram and it was ddr2 so i couldnt upgrade it so i jusnked it
leewake9705#9644: and you had to make a makeshift cooling hole i see
Kacpreusz#7656: Yup
Kacpreusz#7656: And it really did help
Kacpreusz#7656: I had like 10 less degrees
leewake9705#9644: wow
leewake9705#9644: nice
Kacpreusz#7656: I have license keys for Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional, Vista Home Premium oem, XP Home and Pro, Windows 98 SE, Windows 2000 Pro |
Kacpreusz#7656: Idk what should i install
leewake9705#9644: well cool
leewake9705#9644: this is on what computer again
leewake9705#9644: and i wish i had a windows 7 pro iso becasue all i have are not legit
Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745212385601519617/20200818_112746.jpg
leewake9705#9644: nice winamp
vegetal#8870: > Now i'm forced to live with a Dell Latitude C640 - Pentium 4M 1.8ghz, 1GB ddr ram, 60gb pata 5400rpm HDD in very bad condition
@Kacpreusz a small ytber i watch did an oveview of the C640 today, weird coincidence
vegetal#8870: odd laptop
Kacpreusz#7656: Can you please give me a link to this video?
Kacpreusz#7656: @vegetal
Kacpreusz#7656: Fuck
Kacpreusz#7656: Hard drive died in my c640
leewake9705#9644: just now
leewake9705#9644: well idk where you would find an old pata hard drive that works |
DarknessFalls229#2286: i think i got a few
Alcyone#2233: make sure its 44 pin ide, but all the 2.5 should be. there are also disk on module you can get new
Kacpreusz#7656: I'm not investing any more money into it
Kacpreusz#7656: I'm selling it as is
leewake9705#9644: Well you won't have a computer then until you get the d830
Kacpreusz#7656: yes
Kacpreusz#7656: Unless
Kacpreusz#7656: https://youtu.be/ux6pBAleOOE
Kacpreusz#7656: that's basically 10-11£
Kacpreusz#7656: If i can only find these parts on these prices, i won't even consider the Dell laptop
Kacpreusz#7656: i'll just move my desk
wiryfuture🦀#1706: @"Cobs" could you help me out a bit, I'm getting this out of nowhere https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745426141174694068/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745426194379440219/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but it says I have a cert https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745426244245389322/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it's the same as any other placeholder site I have |
"Cobs"#1150: you've used a dodgy ssl version mate
"Cobs"#1150: doesn#'t even let my chrome see the cert
wiryfuture🦀#1706: like, SSL 1 or some shite?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't know how to change that
wiryfuture🦀#1706: raw domain has no issue
"Cobs"#1150: however youve configured that subdomain
"Cobs"#1150: enable non https connections too
"Cobs"#1150: ensure your ssl is either specific to that subdomain, or is a wildcard too
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745427013279416370/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: > ensure your ssl is either specific to that subdomain, or is a wildcard too
@"Cobs" virtualmin treats each sub as a different domain
"Cobs"#1150: ah
"Cobs"#1150: well
"Cobs"#1150: just remember ssl certs apply to each sub domain unless you use a wildcard
wiryfuture🦀#1706: works completely fine for everything else |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: that needs to work
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I can't get through on http for some reason
manfire7#6750: Anyone have experience gaming with quadro cards? I'm looking at quadro p620 vs gt 1030, p620 looks better on paper just wondering if there's any caveats I'm missing
"Cobs"#1150: Ones for workstation use and ones for gaming
wiryfuture🦀#1706: @"Cobs" uh https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745428080490840174/unknown.png
"Cobs"#1150: Completely different drivers with completely different optimisations. Do not buy a quadro to game on.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: not good?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: remove ssl?
"Cobs"#1150: I'd just recreate that subdomain in your manager
"Cobs"#1150: somethings broken in it
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I did and this is what it made
"Cobs"#1150: reapply the ssl cert
"Cobs"#1150: odd
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm gonna remove the SSl shite
wiryfuture🦀#1706: and compare it to the other ones I have that work] |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: let it use defaults
manfire7#6750: I'm down to mess with drivers if it'll get me more gpu power, are they that much of a hassle to game on?
"Cobs"#1150: You're missing the point
"Cobs"#1150: Quadro's aren't made for gaming....like at ALL
"Cobs"#1150: lots of games won't run with unsigned drivers too
"Cobs"#1150: Quadro's are for CAD work and other workstation professional applications. You'll have absolutely no driver optimisations for games.
wiryfuture🦀#1706: (basically they're arse for games)
"Cobs"#1150: Just get a geforce card or radeon if you want to game
manfire7#6750: Yeah I know they're intended for workstation use, can you not put geforce drivers on them?
"Cobs"#1150: Nope
Budget#8265: Pretty much anything with anticheat doesnt like Quadros cause unsigned drivers
"Cobs"#1150: GeForce drivers are for GeForce cards, not Quadro's.
Budget#8265: Nah they dont do Workstation/Gaming Drivers anymore
"Cobs"#1150: There's a reason why they don't share the same drivers.
Budget#8265: Admitedly they used to |
manfire7#6750: Ah ok, I know I've seen it done on a tech YouTube channel but might have been an old card
manfire7#6750: @"Cobs" you're acting like they're a world apart, aren't they architecturally the same and sometimes even identical to geforce cards? I thought drivers were the only real difference
"Cobs"#1150: Technically the drivers are the main difference, but you also have other things thrown into the mix.
"Cobs"#1150: Nowadays they are two completely different worlds. If you need content creation based drivers, Nvidia have made the GeForce Studio drivers for such tasks
Budget#8265: The older cards where they were Geforce Rebands actually let you use Geforcedrivers
Budget#8265: and then the workstation sutff was called Forceaware
Budget#8265: or some jazz
Budget#8265: Really if you need a GT1030 theyre getting pretty cheap, same with the RX550
manfire7#6750: What about amd workstation cards?
"Cobs"#1150: you're going the wrong direction again
Budget#8265: They have a few, but very expensive
manfire7#6750: Not in canada, haven't seen one under $100
"Cobs"#1150: If you're trying to game, get an RX card or standard radeon HD
Budget#8265: 100 CAD = £50
Budget#8265: or around that |
Budget#8265: What kinda system is this for
Budget#8265: The GTX650 is pretty cheap and I have a video on it
manfire7#6750: Lmao I wouldn't be looking at workstation cards if I had a choice
Budget#8265: 👍
manfire7#6750: It's for a sff build need a card with no external psu input and >60w tdp
"Cobs"#1150: GT1030
Budget#8265: HD7750? GT1030? GTX750?
manfire7#6750: Was just looking into the workstation cards to see if I could squeeze a bit more performance out
"Cobs"#1150: You'll get less performance with workstation cards on modern workstation drivers in games
manfire7#6750: Ok yeah that's the answer I was looking for
manfire7#6750: So gt1030 is my best bet for performance with under 60w tdp?
"Cobs"#1150: any of the 3 Budget recommended should do
manfire7#6750: Or rx550 but looks like they're basically on par
"Cobs"#1150: yeah
wiryfuture🦀#1706: this gets me invalid, this is the default generated on my server with only webserver enabled |
https://pastebin.com/pJQHcVvK
manfire7#6750: Is fortnite playable on a gt 1030?
"Cobs"#1150: self signed SSL certificates can't be used directly on the web
wiryfuture🦀#1706: same as on my working domain minus mail and ftp stuff
wiryfuture🦀#1706: not self
"Cobs"#1150: you need to use Let's encrypt or a proper provider
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I am
Budget#8265: GT1030 should run it with lower settings
Budget#8265: Im sure Gamers Nexus or HW Unboxed might have Benchmarks
wiryfuture🦀#1706: isn't 1050 pcie power?
manfire7#6750: Sweet, thanks. Bought the sff pc as a home server but want to set it up to double as a low end gaming rig for my little brother
manfire7#6750: 1050ti, 1650 super, and I think 960 or something like that all come in low profile pcie power only but they can go up to the full 75w tdp at high loads
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Lol i give up with this website it's stupid that it doesn't work
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Aren't 1050TIs one of the gpus that is often way overpriced
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I remember seeing them for quite a bit above their value |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: might just have been the usual crackheads selling hardware for way more than it's worth
manfire7#6750: Total longshot here but could I underclock and undervolt a 1650 or 1050 to get it to a max tdp that my psu could handle?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: you psu can probably handle it
wiryfuture🦀#1706: unless it's only like 200w
manfire7#6750: 210w
manfire7#6750: So 60-65w available at absolute max
wiryfuture🦀#1706: what cpu?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: pentium/core2/i3?
Budget#8265: I wouldnt even try it honestly
manfire7#6750: I5-6500
wiryfuture🦀#1706: nah
manfire7#6750: Alright, thanks for the input! Guess I'll keep looking for a deal on the gt1030
JustinXenyx#8854: @manfire7 1050/1050Ti and 1650s don't have unlocked power control because they're already limited to 75W PCIe power
JustinXenyx#8854: They disable power control so that idiots don't try to go over the PCIe power limit
manfire7#6750: Damn haha so it's not even potentially doable |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: is the evga b5 any good for like 80$?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: or are there better options
Kacpreusz#7656: > @Kacpreusz a small ytber i watch did an oveview of the C640 today, weird coincidence
@vegetal Can you please give me a link to this video?
vegetal#8870: ill dm you
Kacpreusz#7656: I found a Thiccpad R400 for the same price as the Latitude D830 i wanted, core 2 Duo 2.26ghz, 2gb of ram, 80gb hdd, power supply included, battery is dead
Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745651876258906132/USER_SCOPED_TEMP_DATA_orca-image--1642654357.jpeg
wiryfuture🦀#1706: lol the currency
wiryfuture🦀#1706: 250zl = £51
wiryfuture🦀#1706: sad
Muse#0557: zl just sounds like monopoly money and idk why
Muse#0557: Just something novel about normal things being triple digits
Aihio#2991: Any ideas what might be the problem here? My gf's laptop lags while watching 720p60 YouTube videos. Like it mostly works but sometimes just lags. The laptop has A6-9220 with Radeon R4, 16GB 2400MHz and 120GB M.2 SSD
Muse#0557: I'd open task manager to see what's eatting up resources
Aihio#2991: "System" is using most of the CPU |
Muse#0557: It's probably updating then
Muse#0557: I'd restart it personally
Aihio#2991: It's been updating for the past two years smh
Aihio#2991: Could it just be that bad?
Muse#0557: It's not that weak of a laptop
Muse#0557: I don't see system taking up that many resources
Muse#0557: Manually check for an update
Aihio#2991: I did that
Aihio#2991: I also updated all apps from the Microsoft Store
Aihio#2991: And downloaded the latest AMD Drivers
Muse#0557: I'd say to try reinstall windows tbh
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Is there any cheap wireless touchpads?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I want to try frankenstein one into my laptop
Muse#0557: Dear god
wiryfuture🦀#1706: what |
Muse#0557: Honestly just search wireless touch pad on amazon
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I'm trying to lol
Muse#0557: Click prime
Muse#0557: Sort by lowest
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it's all keyboards
Muse#0557: A wired one might be fine tbh
wiryfuture🦀#1706: idk how I'd frankenstein that into my laptop tho
wiryfuture🦀#1706: oops I found linus https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745767135954862223/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: like an accidental where's waldo
Muse#0557: They are all overpriced
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yes
wiryfuture🦀#1706: 10x5.7cm of space to work with
wiryfuture🦀#1706: not a lot
Muse#0557: Just use a wireless mouse tbh phil
wiryfuture🦀#1706: and |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: uh
wiryfuture🦀#1706: 90mm of height
Muse#0557: Use a mouse
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yeah but's kinda fucked when I don't have a desk
wiryfuture🦀#1706: proper pain in the arse on the go
Muse#0557: You're normally at a desk tho
leewake9705#9644: my hp latop trackpad buttons went out so i just dtarted using the nipple when i have to use the computer
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't have a fecking nip-le
JustinXenyx#8854: Just replace the touchpad instead of trying to bullshit a hacksolution @wiryfuture🦀
wiryfuture🦀#1706: > Just replace the touchpad instead of trying to bullshit a hacksolution @wiryfuture🦀
I can't find one
Muse#0557: What laptop
leewake9705#9644: what laptop do you have
wiryfuture🦀#1706: dynabook BS so I can't find anything
Muse#0557: Use a mouse |
Muse#0557: Get a arm rest
wiryfuture🦀#1706: fecking macbooks are easier to repair than this
Muse#0557: Or a counter top
FantaStick#8008: Mouse on laptop gang
FantaStick#8008: Fuck trackpads gang
Muse#0557: Mouse on laptop for gaming
leewake9705#9644: yeah
leewake9705#9644: nipple forever
FantaStick#8008: I'll fuck with a nipple too
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I want a fecking trackpad so I can do anything without using up a precious usb port, or having to take a mouse with me
leewake9705#9644: usb wireless mouse
leewake9705#9644: bt
leewake9705#9644: my bad
FantaStick#8008: *install a touchscreen*
wiryfuture🦀#1706: it has a touchscreen lmao |
leewake9705#9644: touchscreens dont work on computers
Muse#0557: USB dongle
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but that's not too useful
FantaStick#8008: Usb hub
FantaStick#8008: You must E X P A N D
leewake9705#9644: get the cheapest bluetooth mouse you can get where you live
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but I don't want to carry anything else with me
wiryfuture🦀#1706: other than my sexy usb c power bank so I can charge my phone and stuff when I'm using maps all day
leewake9705#9644: you seem like a busy man
Muse#0557: Ha
FantaStick#8008: He's not
FantaStick#8008: He rides bikes for way too long
Muse#0557: No he's just pickty
leewake9705#9644: oh
leewake9705#9644: wait |
leewake9705#9644: wny would you have a laptop and ride a bike. is it your only vehiccle
wiryfuture🦀#1706: uh
Muse#0557: 🥰 😘 😍 🥺
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yes?
Muse#0557: Owo
leewake9705#9644: i mean if its that big of a deal and you have the money just get a replacemnt laptop that is similar to that one if you want a trackpad
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I don't have £600 :crome:
leewake9705#9644: thats a lot
wiryfuture🦀#1706: in assets.. maybe, in caSH.. no
leewake9705#9644: well in euros
wiryfuture🦀#1706: might honestly be cheaper though
leewake9705#9644: yeah but they dont sell anything good at the electronic stores in germany
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745770311504494742/images_26.jpeg
leewake9705#9644: thats why i use a fabricated desktop
wiryfuture🦀#1706: this laptop has an i5 8250 |
Muse#0557: 675w
Muse#0557: Or pure disappointment
leewake9705#9644: thats a really new laptop then
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but honestly I think I might get myself a the cheapest r3 laptop and be happy
leewake9705#9644: yeah
wiryfuture🦀#1706: since I have a pc
wiryfuture🦀#1706: this would just be for quick work
FantaStick#8008: @Muse 675w of pure, heavy, heated passion
Muse#0557: My next laptop is probably going to be a last gen envy x360
Muse#0557: 2500u
FantaStick#8008: And a nice collectors card
FantaStick#8008: How envy x360 ryzen laptops should be cheap enough to pick up
FantaStick#8008: I'd recommend at least the 3500u tho
FantaStick#8008: They fixed some of the heat and battery life issues
Muse#0557: I can an older one for like 350-400 |
Muse#0557: Tho
wiryfuture🦀#1706: if it has type c charging that it's good enough for me
wiryfuture🦀#1706: lmao
FantaStick#8008: It does
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745771190370697216/s-l400.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745771190651715634/41f0c166c1f9a0aaccdda9bbb1791a4904b649b0.jpeg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745771191146381382/csm_MG_1886_67d279bce2.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745771191494508608/c05981419.png,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745771191951949955/HP.jpg
leewake9705#9644: The only thing I use type c for is my phone lol
FantaStick#8008: Oh damn they got more expensive
Muse#0557: Looks good enough for me
wiryfuture🦀#1706: looks expensive
leewake9705#9644: Probably is
Muse#0557: Can be had 400 ish
Muse#0557: 2500u
Muse#0557: 8gb ram
leewake9705#9644: Really
Muse#0557: 256gb storage |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: nOT 32GB?!?!?
leewake9705#9644: Nvme
wiryfuture🦀#1706: useless
wiryfuture🦀#1706: :haha: jk
FantaStick#8008: I sold my old 2500u x360 for 350$ with a 500gb SSD installed
FantaStick#8008: Was the goin rate at the time
wiryfuture🦀#1706: damn
wiryfuture🦀#1706: "old" lmao
FantaStick#8008: Yes
wiryfuture🦀#1706: nice old
FantaStick#8008: It's been a few years
FantaStick#8008: Old simply means, not the current gen / I don't own it anymore
wiryfuture🦀#1706: damn, does that mean 3rd gen ryzen is old now?
FantaStick#8008: No
FantaStick#8008: Because 4th gen ain't out |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: mobile is
wiryfuture🦀#1706: right?
FantaStick#8008: No
FantaStick#8008: 4000 mobile is same as 3000 desktop
FantaStick#8008: Generation wise
Muse#0557: Ryzen is 1000 above the Equiv desktop architecture
Muse#0557: Like the apus
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but as soon as 4th gen comes out, 3rd will be old?
FantaStick#8008: No
Muse#0557: 4000 mobile is out
FantaStick#8008: You're reading too much into my use of the word old
Muse#0557: But is essentially 3000 desktop
Muse#0557: 🙏
FantaStick#8008: It's simply a past possessive indicator
wiryfuture🦀#1706: > Old simply means, not the current gen |
old mean's I'm confused lol
Muse#0557: I just explained it
FantaStick#8008: You know
Muse#0557: In 2 messages
Muse#0557: Perfectly
FantaStick#8008: There's a second half to that quote
FantaStick#8008: That you so conveniently cut off
FantaStick#8008: Let's put it this way ryzen mobile 4000 is Zen2
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ok
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I just want to know when 3rd gen will be old?
wiryfuture🦀#1706: when desktop 4th gen comes out, or some time after
Muse#0557: It's going to remain relevant for ages
Muse#0557: Old is relative
wiryfuture🦀#1706: okay I won't question what old is
Kacpreusz#7656: I'm getting a ThinkPad R400 |
Kacpreusz#7656: Tomorrow my friend will give me a crappy Asus netbook with a Atom cpu, temporarily it should be ok
vegetal#8870: kurwa fridge
Kacpreusz#7656: Wait
Kacpreusz#7656: What
Kacpreusz#7656: why is this here
manfire7#6750: Is $70 usd reasonable for a b stock evga gt 1030?
Muse#0557: No
manfire7#6750: What would you say is reasonable/link to cheaper?
vegetal#8870: Ebay
manfire7#6750: Cheapest on Ebay is $65 and coming from China, everything else is >70. 1 other auction but also from China
Muse#0557: Don't buy a 1030 unless you have to
Xbox 360 1953#2640: They need 1030 since psu low wattage iirc
manfire7#6750: I do, it's for a sff pc without the psu wattage for a full 75w card
Muse#0557: Try find one locally
manfire7#6750: Yeah I posted on a local tech forum, guess I'll try reddit |
Muse#0557: Try Facebook marketplace
Muse#0557: Gumtree
Muse#0557: Craiglist
Muse#0557: Sphock
manfire7#6750: What was the going price for them pre covid?
Muse#0557: Go look
Muse#0557: Covid hasn't really affected the 1030 tbh
manfire7#6750: Idk, kinda seems like pretty much all pc hardware is marked up right now
Muse#0557: Go for the best price you can get
manfire7#6750: Alright, thanks! Don't need it for a few weeks so I'll keep poking around used marketplaces
JustinXenyx#8854: well the GDDR5 1030 always was around 70 dollars
Muse#0557: Yeh new
manfire7#6750: Yeah the evga one I'm looking at is ddr5 but refurb
JustinXenyx#8854: If you have the space and the money a low profile 1650 would do the job better and you'd get much more performance for the price
manfire7#6750: I'd need to upgrade the psu at that point and I'm not really trying to make it a gaming rig anyways. Bought it to use pretty much as is as a home server but ideally want something that my little brother can play fortnite and indie games on |
manfire7#6750: I only have an hd 7870 in my own rig
manfire7#6750: Is there anything cheaper than the gt 1030 that comes close to the performance? Like is that the bare minimum for fortnite and esports titles?
leewake9705#9644: well
leewake9705#9644: i dont know how good a 8600gt would do but thats what i use and i only have a 350w psu
leewake9705#9644: its old but it works
leewake9705#9644: but i know that people would uasally want something more powerful
D.D.M#8226: Hey guys so i recently bought a r9 280x vapor x oc variant for about 45€ and sometimes when i play a demanding game for some time (Hitman 2 for example), the screen turns black and the pc is unresponsive. The card would hit a max temp of 73 c and i also have a 750w psu. Any idea?
D.D.M#8226: And a game like TF2 doesn't lock up the system.
manfire7#6750: I'm assuming the card is used?
manfire7#6750: Might just be dying
manfire7#6750: I'd swap out the thermal paste if you haven't already
D.D.M#8226: Yeah i thought
manfire7#6750: 73 C should be fine though and if this is the only gpu in your system 750w is probably overkill. I'm definitely not an expert on this stuff so maybe wait for someone else to chime in. But as far as I know cleaning it up and replacing the thermal paste are about all you can do for it. Check out the capacitors when you've got the cooler off. You might be able to get a bit more life out of it with a "reflow" but that's a last resort for when you've totally given up on it.
D.D.M#8226: Gta 5 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/745944944203530280/20200820_115827.jpg
D.D.M#8226: Same with hitman 2 |
D.D.M#8226: Every other games i play work fine
MythologicalZ#3752: what driver are you running?
leewake9705#9644: sounds like my problem but 5x worse
leewake9705#9644: does hitman2 and gtav always do this when you launch it or does it happen when it wants
D.D.M#8226: With gta 5 after like 20 minutes
D.D.M#8226: Hitman 2 same but sometimes in the main menu
leewake9705#9644: hmm
D.D.M#8226: Also latest drivers
MythologicalZ#3752: uninstall and run 17.7.1 and test the games again
leewake9705#9644: have you been able to run firestrike on it or any other gpu stress test
MythologicalZ#3752: basically the best driver because 1st refresh, so it'll rule out issues with drivers
D.D.M#8226: Other games like tf2, payday 2, minecraft, roblox, valorant on the highest settings run fine
leewake9705#9644: wow my computer crashes regardless of game
leewake9705#9644: it must be a problem with gtav and hitman favoring nvidian cards
D.D.M#8226: Well i am thinking of replacing the paste |
leewake9705#9644: so like mythologicialz said i would look at the drivers
D.D.M#8226: Ok got it
leewake9705#9644: well you should probally have a once over physically becasue it is a used part right
D.D.M#8226: Ok so i installed driver version 20.4.2 and with msi afterburner i set a higher fan speed
D.D.M#8226: Now i am testing hitman
leewake9705#9644: alright
D.D.M#8226: Nope still happens
D.D.M#8226: Another lower version?
MythologicalZ#3752: yes, much lower
MythologicalZ#3752: nothing 20.xxx
MythologicalZ#3752: modern amd drivers are unstable
MythologicalZ#3752: try 17.7.1 or 18.5.1
D.D.M#8226: K ima see
leewake9705#9644: are you acually able to download the older drivers straight from amd
MythologicalZ#3752: their site is kinda broken for that, guru3d should have the downloads worst case |
D.D.M#8226: Amd only has versions 19 and 20
leewake9705#9644: i would just say download them from a reliable source because they could have more then the driver and really mess up your day
D.D.M#8226: K
leewake9705#9644: i mean idk if the internet archive has drivers but i know they have os
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-radeon-software-crimson-relive-17-7-1-driver-download.html
MythologicalZ#3752: https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-radeon-adrenalin-edition-18-5-1-driver-download.html
MythologicalZ#3752: there
D.D.M#8226: Ok so since my little brother also asked some other people around discord and they said try switching to standard preset in the amd control centre and he is still playing and nothing has happened i will keep you updated
MythologicalZ#3752: :TheGoods:
TheSwiftTiger#8189: this monitor any good?
TheSwiftTiger#8189: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-VG240YSbmiipx-Gaming-Monitor-FreeSync/dp/B084BJ5PZH
TheSwiftTiger#8189: seems a bit too good to be true at that price
Yannikau#9606: That's true, I would research a bit about it
Yannikau#9606: FreeSync is awesome tbh
TheSwiftTiger#8189: i mean it's from acer, does that mean anything? |
TheSwiftTiger#8189: reputable brand right?
D.D.M#8226: Ok so after a 30 or so minutes hitman 2 gameplay nothing happened but i have to go somewhere
D.D.M#8226: So i will continue testing tomorrow
leewake9705#9644: alright
Budget#8265: Freesync is awesome
Budget#8265: can confirm
Racey#8574: Variable Refresh Rate epic
Racey#8574: :thumbsupcat:
Bwenfwake#6869: My friend has a budget of £1600 for a new PC so I've put together this rig for him. What are your thoughts and opinions and what would you change/why? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746050923280728305/unknown.png
Bwenfwake#6869: He needs the CPU for 3D modelling so GPU isn't as important but he does still game a lot
Muse#0557: Is good
Bwenfwake#6869: Nice, thought so lol
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Bwenfwake why not 2x 16gb for expandability later?
Bwenfwake#6869: I thought about that, however I don't really see him using more than 32GB of RAM. Kinda thought that he'd benefit from the quad channel more so but I guess that that is his decision lol @DarknessFalls229
DarknessFalls229#2286: Quad channel???? |
Bwenfwake#6869: Is this not a Ryzen feature?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Ryzen is limited to dual channel
DarknessFalls229#2286: Youre looking at HEDT for triple channel or more
Bwenfwake#6869: Gotcha, well then I guess I am living in the past there then https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746062042963902614/unknown.png
Bwenfwake#6869: I can change it to two sticks of 16GB then 🙂
DarknessFalls229#2286: Ye
Bwenfwake#6869: Cheers for the info 🙂
Bwenfwake#6869: I am too used to X79 and other related platforms like X99 aha
boog#9487: What should I price my fully functional other than a 1 pixel witdth line down the screen Samsung 65 inch 4k tv
boog#9487: I'm planning on selling it as I don't need it
Muse#0557: It really depends
Kacpreusz#7656: I have bought a ThinkPad T420
Kacpreusz#7656: I almost bought a T430 but it was more expensive, came without a battery and it has the chicklet keyboard
Kacpreusz#7656: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746092109429342350/Screenshot_20200820-214240.png,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746092109773406348/Screenshot_20200820-214256.png,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746092110024802324/Screenshot_20200820-214328.png
Muse#0557: OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: THE TECH HELP SERVICE IS SHUTTING DOWN IF YOU EXPERIENCE ANY ISSUES OR HAVE QUESTIONS THE ANSWER IS BEYOND SIMPLE AND CARRIES INTO ANY SITUATION BUY A RYZEN 5 3600 AND YOUR ISSUES WILL BE SOLVED |
leewake9705#9644: wait
leewake9705#9644: is this real
leewake9705#9644: becasue we acually need this channel
BigPierogi#3368: @Muse nut
Bwenfwake#6869: I guess I'll have to step up instead lol
Muse#0557: Bren you don't have the balls
Bwenfwake#6869: I do it for work 5 days a week
Muse#0557: Yeh but did you make a graph with frobot
Muse#0557: I don't think so
leewake9705#9644: look i like helping people with problems that they have ok
Bwenfwake#6869: no, I did not. I do not have the time
leewake9705#9644: well them you dont have to, there are many people that know stuff and that can help people
Muse#0557: He still doesn't get it
Muse#0557: Fella
Muse#0557: It's satire |
Muse#0557: :epicgamer:
leewake9705#9644: damn i got trolled
Bwenfwake#6869: Indeed
leewake9705#9644: yeah cuz if you were to i would be sad because i couldnt help people
Muse#0557: I was taking the piss out of emperor of finland
Muse#0557: And you took the bait I expected nobody to fall for
BigPierogi#3368: boomer
Bwenfwake#6869: lmao
leewake9705#9644: yeah well
leewake9705#9644: i cant really hide it but in the beginning i was like ok sure but then i was like mabye he will
Muse#0557: If you help enough people I'm sure you'll get far
Muse#0557: I wasn't just born a tech helper
Muse#0557: 🙏
BigPierogi#3368: Yes you were
leewake9705#9644: i wanst either but you just begin to learn from experience |
Muse#0557: Honestly this server has been good for expanding my knowledge in general IT
Muse#0557: Feel like it'll actually help atleast a bit in life
leewake9705#9644: yeah
leewake9705#9644: thats why this server needs to stay around
leewake9705#9644: becasue you never know when someone could educate you while helping someone else
leewake9705#9644: thats like the best part of this channel
Muse#0557: You hear that
Muse#0557: I'm better than hamish
Muse#0557: Confirmed
leewake9705#9644: well i bet he knows some stuff too but i mean if you made this channel then sure
DarknessFalls229#2286: when something goes out of my range i just call upon someone who has a more general understanding of that particular subject
leewake9705#9644: when i say channel you know i mean tech help and talk
leewake9705#9644: yeah
DarknessFalls229#2286: but i like when i can help
leewake9705#9644: and then you learn more stuff while they talk about it |
Muse#0557: I'm good with general knowledge tbh
Muse#0557: And performance
Muse#0557: Not so much networking and softwarey things
DarknessFalls229#2286: same
Bwenfwake#6869: Ah my dude, networking is a very useful thing to know
Muse#0557: It is
DarknessFalls229#2286: good general knowledge of pc stuff, more in depth with something like 775
leewake9705#9644: i can do software but im not the gratest
Muse#0557: But it doesn't intrigue me a huge amount
Bwenfwake#6869: ah shit
Bwenfwake#6869: sorry wrong link
Bwenfwake#6869: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746121947209007214/unknown.png
DarknessFalls229#2286: FX chip?
Bwenfwake#6869: I'm literally working on networking stuff rn
Bwenfwake#6869: also yeh, fx chip |
leewake9705#9644: wow
Muse#0557: It's on 1 core tho isn't it bren
leewake9705#9644: i dont know a thing about networking but my dad has a lot of books about network and older srever and redhat stuff
Bwenfwake#6869: I think so yeh, however I've not watched it. My friend was looking for an example of extreme overclocking and that was the first thing I found
Bwenfwake#6869: just accidentally pasted the video instead of my screenshot
Bwenfwake#6869: because I am a dumbass lmao
DarknessFalls229#2286: i dont like that kind of extreme overclocking
Bwenfwake#6869: It is something I do in my spare time lmao
DarknessFalls229#2286: its pretty much "hey look at this overtly high frequency when pushing no load at all on the CPU while pressing the validate button"
Muse#0557: I need to ramp up my IT skills
Muse#0557: Am looking at apprenticeships
Muse#0557: Probably going to go tech mental then
Muse#0557: Learn loads
Muse#0557: Then burn out
Muse#0557: And perish |
Bwenfwake#6869: Aye do it, I've literally just finished an apprenticeship
DarknessFalls229#2286: i wanna see cinebench runs, 3D Mark, Games on those frequencies
Bwenfwake#6869: well, making sure my last bit of coursework is good in order for me to finish
Muse#0557: College really wasn't for me
Bwenfwake#6869: But then I go into full work
Muse#0557: It was ancient and the tutors were stupid
Bwenfwake#6869: and will be on full pay
Bwenfwake#6869: and then i shall buy more hardware and networking gear
Muse#0557: It was all social media
Muse#0557: Which I would of taking media studies if I wanted to learn how to market
Bwenfwake#6869: lol media studies
Muse#0557: Bruh my IT course was 80% that
Bwenfwake#6869: Was that for ya GCSE?
Bwenfwake#6869: or college
Muse#0557: B-tec |
Muse#0557: Year of level 3
Bwenfwake#6869: ah so 6th form/college
Bwenfwake#6869: you in your first year?
Bwenfwake#6869: or second year?
Muse#0557: First
Muse#0557: I'm not doing a second
Bwenfwake#6869: huh
Bwenfwake#6869: so only 1 year courses?
Muse#0557: Yep because I took the highest level
leewake9705#9644: wow you guys are really ahead of my im just starting 9th grade lol
Bwenfwake#6869: gotcha, make sure you do an apprenticeship afterward tho as you've gotta be in education until you're 18
Muse#0557: Yeh yeh man... Want to get an apprenticeship since it seems like the best option
Muse#0557: Going back to an environment I hate and delivering pizza on the side doesn't seem as good an opportunity
Bwenfwake#6869: Aye do it, I got a one year apprenticeship after I did college
Bwenfwake#6869: now I'm just finishing |
Muse#0557: There's one open that's a pipe dream but it's godly
Bwenfwake#6869: oh dang
Bwenfwake#6869: in what?
Muse#0557: It's a Cyber Security Apprenticeship with the NHS... You work with them for a year getting taught the ropes and get paid 19k a year, then after a year they pay for you to take a uni cyber security course and also pay you another 19k on top
Muse#0557: Like its so insane an opportunity that I doubt I'd get it
Bwenfwake#6869: That is a pretty good opportunity
BigPierogi#3368: nerds
Bwenfwake#6869: Not sure I'd want to get into cybersecurity but you do you bud
Bwenfwake#6869: Have ya looked into anything from IBM or Nationwide?
Muse#0557: It's a very pro active section... Can't get comfy and complacent
Muse#0557: But it's the best way I see myself being engaged
Bwenfwake#6869: Also check out GCHQ if you're into your cybersecurity as well
Bwenfwake#6869: They do some good stuff too
Muse#0557: The NHS one is a 20 minute train wide away
Muse#0557: There's not much more on offer near me |
Bwenfwake#6869: Ah fair
Muse#0557: And I can't drive
Bwenfwake#6869: Pretty sure nationwide and GCHQ will pay for your accomodation too with some job roles
Bwenfwake#6869: worth checking out all the same
Muse#0557: I want to get into a place before schools reopen because I have to be in education
Bwenfwake#6869: yeah fair
Bwenfwake#6869: You've really not got long ngl
Muse#0557: Or else I'd have to take a brick laying course or something to tide me over
Muse#0557: Yeh ik mate
Muse#0557: There isn't much on offer
Bwenfwake#6869: I mean.... some brickies are payed very well
Muse#0557: Not something I'm passionate about
Muse#0557: Sorry cobs
Bwenfwake#6869: lmao reasonable haha
BigPierogi#3368: Professional brick layer |
Bwenfwake#6869: yeh
Bwenfwake#6869: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746125799408533504/unknown.png
Bwenfwake#6869: it's a thing
Bwenfwake#6869: don't take the piss @BigPierogi
BigPierogi#3368: I know it's a thing
BigPierogi#3368: Cobs showed it a long time ago
Bwenfwake#6869: Ah fair
Muse#0557: I'm writing up my CV tomorrow and applying.... I have a Level 3 Diploma thingy in IT and telecommunications
Bwenfwake#6869: nice
BigPierogi#3368: Level 4 brick layer
Bwenfwake#6869: I really need to update my CV
Bwenfwake#6869: I haven't updated it since my GCSE's lmao
Muse#0557: Plus like I've got a face that people just respond nicely to I guess... Like nice to me for no reason
Muse#0557: And really friendly
Muse#0557: Which is good for interview lmao |
Muse#0557: I guess
Bwenfwake#6869: Reasonable
Muse#0557: I genuinely don't go to my local asda anymore because I got compliments off like every staff member
Muse#0557: And I'm an irrational bitch
Bwenfwake#6869: I've got to add two level 3 courses, an electronics AS and a photography AS to my CV
Muse#0557: Whose easily spooked
Bwenfwake#6869: plus my apprenticeship
Muse#0557: How old are you
Bwenfwake#6869: 19
Bwenfwake#6869: u?
Muse#0557: 17
Bwenfwake#6869: I see
Bwenfwake#6869: Thought u were that age
Muse#0557: Do i be offended
Bwenfwake#6869: Nah, pretty sure you've told me before |
Muse#0557: That's a good reason to get somebodies age correct
BigPierogi#3368: can muse sex???
Bwenfwake#6869: Indeed
Bwenfwake#6869: he can
Muse#0557: I've sexed
BigPierogi#3368: sex is bad
BigPierogi#3368: it causes sex
Bwenfwake#6869: tf
Muse#0557: You're just a little bitch
Bwenfwake#6869: nah anything to do with it is a good thing
BigPierogi#3368: @Muse I agree
Bwenfwake#6869: @BigPierogi obvs ain't old enough
Muse#0557: Yeh he is 13
Bwenfwake#6869: nailed it
BigPierogi#3368: clearly |
Muse#0557: Sex is good tbh
Racey#8574: Tf is this chat lmao
Muse#0557: Go away weeb
Muse#0557: I don't even know if you're a boy or a girl
Bwenfwake#6869: time for me to disappear then
Racey#8574: I'm a dude tf
Muse#0557: Bren no
BigPierogi#3368: Trap
BigPierogi#3368: 🥙
Muse#0557: Breeeeennnn
Racey#8574: You've been in a VC with me before with the brick boys
Bwenfwake#6869: watttt bish
Racey#8574: And like 20 other people
BigPierogi#3368: Yes
Muse#0557: Give me CV tips |
BigPierogi#3368: When hyperstar doxxed himself
Muse#0557: Lmao
Bwenfwake#6869: I'm an IT Tech, not a careers advisor lmao
Muse#0557: I'm looking to be IT tech
leewake9705#9644: > Tf is this chat lmao
@Racey this is where the real men are
Muse#0557: Dum dun
Racey#8574: > When hyperstar doxxed himself
:eyyy:
BigPierogi#3368: :megmobile:
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746127532516180008/IMG_20200820_215159.png
Muse#0557: Final version
Muse#0557: Needs watermark
BigPierogi#3368: You spelled kekler wrong
Muse#0557: Shut up |
Muse#0557: Child
BigPierogi#3368: Also where is i5 650
leewake9705#9644: @Muse where is the 8600gt at?
Muse#0557: Removed
Muse#0557: Too weak
leewake9705#9644: well i still use one
Muse#0557: Good for you
leewake9705#9644: 512mb ddr2 variant
Muse#0557: Tech help is closing
Muse#0557: No more 8600 GT
leewake9705#9644: lol
BigPierogi#3368: 🛑
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746127976516812890/Hierarchy_V3.png
leewake9705#9644: 1280x1024 for life
Muse#0557: @DarknessFalls229 Add the watermark pls |
BigPierogi#3368: @Muse i got you
BigPierogi#3368: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746129213785899109/bruh.jpg
BigPierogi#3368: you want a water mark?
BigPierogi#3368: you got a water mark
Muse#0557: Gotta say muse
Muse#0557: And neatly
Muse#0557: Darkness did it well
Muse#0557: @DarknessFalls229 Ily
Muse#0557: Do it pls
Racey#8574: Just slap a giant MUSE onto it
Racey#8574: Here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746130235975663746/20200820_151505.jpg
BigPierogi#3368: once again
BigPierogi#3368: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746130358361260103/bruh_2.jpg
BigPierogi#3368: i got you
BigPierogi#3368: with comic sans |
Racey#8574: I got you
Racey#8574: With my shit fingerwriting
Muse#0557: Race honestly make that low opacity
Muse#0557: And I'll use it
Racey#8574: I did that on my phone lmfao
Muse#0557: Rip
BigPierogi#3368: whats a watermark i can use muse for you
Muse#0557: Do it like race
Muse#0557: But really really low opacity
leewake9705#9644: the graph is not comlete without the 8600gt so put a png of one a put the opacity on that really low just so you can barley see it
BigPierogi#3368: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746130931206586448/muse_smol_pp.jpg
Muse#0557: Even lower
Muse#0557: Like 2%
Racey#8574: Open mine and magic cut it
Racey#8574: And then make it 1% opacity lmfao |
Racey#8574: Shitty fingerwriting 100
BigPierogi#3368: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746131328302317679/moose_smol_pp.png
Muse#0557: Yeh
Muse#0557: That's good
BigPierogi#3368: paint.net power
Racey#8574: Hell yeah Paint.net ftw
Muse#0557: Race if I magic cut yours then there's no info underneath
Muse#0557: Guess I could drag it across
Racey#8574: Magic cut and paste it into a fresh copy
BigPierogi#3368: put it on a new layer
Racey#8574: Yea
BigPierogi#3368: then lower the opacity
BigPierogi#3368: im dogshit at doing that
BigPierogi#3368: putill try to cut it out
Budget#8265: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/585235845305466908/746131555243524116/moose_smol_pp.png?width=789&height=481 |
Racey#8574: I can do that but I'm too lazy to go onto my PC tbf
Budget#8265: Pinned a message.
Budget#8265: Apparently needed pinning
Racey#8574: Hell yeah
BigPierogi#3368: yay
BigPierogi#3368: i did a service
Muse#0557: Ty
Muse#0557: I wouldn't make it if it wasn't gonna be used
BigPierogi#3368: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746134540623282176/moose_big_pp.jpg
BigPierogi#3368: @Muse v2
BigPierogi#3368: with racewens
BigPierogi#3368: uh
BigPierogi#3368: whatever its called
BigPierogi#3368: watermark
Muse#0557: It's been pinned |
BigPierogi#3368: z
Muse#0557: L
BigPierogi#3368: time to delete all my work
BigPierogi#3368: im keeping this chart
BigPierogi#3368: for uh
BigPierogi#3368: reasons
Muse#0557: Oi
Muse#0557: What reasons
BigPierogi#3368: in the future
Muse#0557: Will gib you
BigPierogi#3368: to bring up
Muse#0557: Info chat needed smh
BigPierogi#3368: I already deleted the project files
BigPierogi#3368: Because I wont ever go back to them
BigPierogi#3368: So I kept the one with the muse watermark |
Muse#0557: Ah
Muse#0557: I'm going to need to use the original ones when I update is
Muse#0557: So having the mark is useful for slapping it on to new ones
BigPierogi#3368: Z
BigPierogi#3368: I'll make another one then
BigPierogi#3368: And send it to you or soemthing
Muse#0557: Sure
Muse#0557: Ty
BigPierogi#3368: Z
BigPierogi#3368: I'll do it soon
BigPierogi#3368: Am eating
Muse#0557: Same
Racey#8574: rip lmfao
BigPierogi#3368: can my commodore 64 run windows xp
vegetal#8870: yes |
Flannel84#2980: I'm curious as to if anyone could help me with an overclocking problem. I built a Pentium 4 PC that I have running windows 7 64bit to basically push the limits of what is possible on this cpu.
The problem is that for the overclock I can only manage to gain .1 GHz on the overclock before I just get a black screen. I think it may be PSU related (400 watt PSU) but I've never really messed with overclocking on something this old. The mobo is an ASRock P4VM890 and the cpu is the SL7QB.
leewake9705#9644: well honestly i would not try to overclock a presshot unless you have extreme cooling and a overkill power supply becasue as you know those things love power and heat. I did look up the parts that you are running which is a socket 478 motherboard capable of overclocking and a 3.2ghz pentium 4 from what i found but it seems wierd that you can ont ger a overclock of 100mhz on the processor. I dont know how basic your motherboard bios is but my gigabyte am2 one is but there might be some fail safes of some sort or a protection setting against heat and it wont let it past a certain tempature.these are the the things i can think of becasue the last time i was using a p4 it was on windows xp.
Flannel84#2980: It's probably bound to my psu then. My cooling is a raidmax tower cooler that looks like it was made yesterday and should have no trouble cooling. I might try hooking up my 500 watt evga unit tomorrow to see if it helps. The bios is the final revision as well, 1.90.
leewake9705#9644: alright yeah i looked at the cooler and yeah it looks like you could put it on a new processor but yeah it could be the power supply especially if it is a kectup and mustard one
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Muse bruh i did the watermark in paint.net with transparent text. What do you want the watermark to say, now that im awake
DarknessFalls229#2286: Last time it simply said **@Muse**
leewake9705#9644: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746342978406056046/IMG_20200821_141941.jpg
leewake9705#9644: A $5 part saved this $2000 laptop
leewake9705#9644: and the $5 was the charging port
Muse#0557: It's all good now
leewake9705#9644: yeah
leewake9705#9644: it was an old rog laptop that i need to use for school so im really happy
leewake9705#9644: i had my father help me solder the new plug in
Kacpreusz#7656: Can't wait for my T420 to show up |
Mega⭐#4361: Hello
Foxious#1859: I asked my friend to send me pics so i can help to diagnose his brand new computer
Foxious#1859: for reference, this pic i took was after i had been building this pc for an entire night on 5 hours sleep https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746384077338312875/werne_kone_nykyaa.jpg
Foxious#1859: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/671715549520068609/746381904508485703/JPEG_20200821_175400.jpg?width=267&height=475
Foxious#1859: and then he sends pics like this
Foxious#1859: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/671715549520068609/746381903556247633/JPEG_20200821_175442.jpg?width=845&height=475
Foxious#1859: how the hell i should be able to diagnose his pc with photos like this?
leewake9705#9644: he is like my friend
Bwenfwake#6869: It arrived today, however, it does not work in my Mobo. I can do nothing but cry till I buy a new Mobo. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746390055697907742/IMG_20200821_141408.jpg
Deleted User#0000: What does one of those even do?
Muse#0557: Coprocesses
Deleted User#0000: But what does it coprocess?
Bwenfwake#6869: Anything your mind can imagine
leewake9705#9644: Dude
leewake9705#9644: That thing looks like it was from the future |
leewake9705#9644: That's so cool
Muse#0557: My wpm are in the high 60s
Muse#0557: Gotta get used to it
Muse#0557: It's so easy to push down another key by accident
FantaStick#8008: @Bwenfwake you using it for machine learning or other AI type stuff?
mi3night#2562: @Bwenfwake remove the protective cover
mi3night#2562: Peel the plastic cover off
Racey#8574: It says remove all plastic covers prior to installing to system
Bwenfwake#6869: @FantaStick ill likely use it to write and test my own code but I'll get to that when I get it working.
Bwenfwake#6869: @mi3night im not gonna remove anything yet, not till it is working
FantaStick#8008: Cool beans
D.D.M#8226: Also how much does it cost?
Bertie Kemp#1114: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kolink-modular-power-700w-80-plus-bronze-modular-power-supply-ca-04k-kk.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw4f35BRDBARIsAPePBHyYotwSztmmYNgEEEaIGsyJGf6vIgfrwikOy6PJxdyDmVSIp3321ScaAlnpEALw_wcB
Bertie Kemp#1114: Definitely avoid buying this power supply, right?
leewake9705#9644: uhh |
leewake9705#9644: yeahhh
FantaStick#8008: @TheFifthAce inspect this
Bertie Kemp#1114: Let me know exactly how bad it is, trying to save a friend from buying it
leewake9705#9644: ok
FantaStick#8008: Looks useable to me but I will let our resident PSU expert deal with it
leewake9705#9644: you cant even power an led with it
leewake9705#9644: on all rails
Deleted User#0000: From my limited research, Kolink seems to be similar to Vaseky; Legit products, and very cheap. Not the best, but not the worst
FantaStick#8008: I know kolink is popular over there for cases and stuff
FantaStick#8008: If you're in the UK/EU I'm pretty sure your meta is just buying BeQuiet units
Alcyone#2233: it does not appear to have overtemp protection, which could be a little worrisome on an offbrand "700w" psu https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746432171643895828/unknown.png
Bertie Kemp#1114: Right, be quiet it is then lol
Lemolea#4442: Uhm, what does 80+ bronze mean? Does it really matter between bronze and platinum, or do you just want something *with* a rating??
Alcyone#2233: its the efficiency,
80+ is 80% |
bronze is 85% I think and it scales slower from there
FantaStick#8008: Power conversion efficiency
FantaStick#8008: When you convert AC to DC you can't do it 100% effectively
FantaStick#8008: You essentially lose some
Alcyone#2233: a normal 80+ at 400w load will pull 480w from the wall
Lemolea#4442: Yeah, but like... does it matter too much? Does PSU efficiency actually effect your pc/performance?
FantaStick#8008: No
FantaStick#8008: It effects your power bill to an extent
Alcyone#2233: no but units with a higher rating usually have better components
Alcyone#2233: and run cooler
FantaStick#8008: Matters more when you're a big server farm with thousands of systems
Lemolea#4442: Ahhh, okay
Lemolea#4442: Thank you :)
Lemolea#4442: Was gonna get @Bertie Kemp to build a pc for my sister but she ended up just getting one from overclockers (she's why he was asking). We think she payed way too much for a meh build but I wanted more opinions
Lemolea#4442: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746433962351525938/unknown-5.png |
Lemolea#4442: So... rate her build, I guess?
Lemolea#4442: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746434132145340506/3802b4182c93bf6a.png
Alcyone#2233: why/10
FantaStick#8008: Tax is a yikes over there wow
FantaStick#8008: It's not *too* overpriced
Alcyone#2233: 32gb ram but a 5400rpm hdd
FantaStick#8008: That CPU cooler orientation is bothering the fuck out of me
Racey#8574: Why HDD
Alcyone#2233: that cpu cooler orientation
Alcyone#2233: 250gb ssd
FantaStick#8008: Cheap mass storage
Lemolea#4442: Thats the *only* orientation lol
FantaStick#8008: They have 256gb boot drive so
Alcyone#2233: awful case
FantaStick#8008: I'll let it slide |
Bertie Kemp#1114: Not NVME, its sata
Lemolea#4442: Boot drive is m.2 but sata lol
Lemolea#4442: Yh
Lemolea#4442: I'm trying to work out how to break the news that it's not great lightly
Lemolea#4442: She's not very techy so idk how to explain the parts that are wrong/bad about it
TheFifthAce#4128: @Bertie Kemp kolink is anti vibe
TheFifthAce#4128: if uoure yk
TheFifthAce#4128: buy a fucking be quiet
TheFifthAce#4128: there is zero reason to buy anything else
TheFifthAce#4128: be quiet is the cheapest and the best
Lemolea#4442: Mood
Alcyone#2233: just dont break the news, if shes happy let her be happy. im sure the system will work fine.
Lemolea#4442: Just annoying that we offered to basically do everything for her then she went and got a prebuild 😤
Bwenfwake#6869: Please don't buy that Kolink PSU, it is not even mentioned on the LTT PSU tier list.
Xbox 360 1953#2640: would anyone here happen to have a 2tb 7.2 n a 4tb 5.4 drive and have done like crystal disk info or something? wanna prove to someone bigger drive = faster but i dont wanna pay 160 for both |
JustinXenyx#8854: Would anyone realistically notice the difference?
JustinXenyx#8854: :Xdxdxd:
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I doubt it
Xbox 360 1953#2640: but he is like "noooo u cannot buy 4tb 5400, 5400 sucks its slow as balls"
Muse#0557: Honestly the speeds are probably similar since bigger drives are faster anyway
Muse#0557: Get the 4tb if they're the same price
Muse#0557: Or just the 4tb if I'm reading wrong
Muse#0557: Or a 6tb single drive if he needs that much
FantaStick#8008: LTT PSU tier list is not the end all be all on PSU ratings, look at actual specs and reviews yourself and do your own research
FantaStick#8008: Luke is a smart guy who knows his stuff but the list really has created a gatekept closeminded attitude towards any psus that aren't at least B tier which is baffling
Muse#0557: I need to finish graphs
Muse#0557: Then bomb/psu graph
FantaStick#8008: Psus should fall into 3 categories: Fucking godlike, Solid units, confirmed fire hazards
Muse#0557: Nah
JustinXenyx#8854: that's a bit too simplified imo |
JustinXenyx#8854: Especially when there is a lot of grey area between those 3 categories
Muse#0557: Use as life support, I am titanium, Efficient boi, power supply, supplies power, taser, fire hazard, bomb, bestec
FantaStick#8008: I mean sure
Muse#0557: These are the tiers
FantaStick#8008: Problem is people have misinterpreted what the tiers mean
Muse#0557: I'm taken the piss
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah i do think that people take those tier lists *too* literally especially when building budget computers
Muse#0557: Lowest end psu I'd go with is an 80+ from Evga, corsair
Muse#0557: They aren't good
Muse#0557: But they are bare minimum
FantaStick#8008: I see way to many X PSU is not specified on list, or X PSU is only C tier don't buy unless you want a house fire
Muse#0557: But you should get a be quiet for like a few bucks more
FantaStick#8008: Need to check out the new EVGA white units
FantaStick#8008: The w1s
FantaStick#8008: Wonder if they're any better |
Muse#0557: I don't mean buy one new but if you can find one locally for like 20 bones
Muse#0557: Then it's serviceable
FantaStick#8008: 20 bones
FantaStick#8008: Got it
FantaStick#8008: Problem is it's hard to have in depth analysis and review of every single PSU out there
FantaStick#8008: So a lot of stuff isnt gonna be on that list
JustinXenyx#8854: I personally think that people should invest more into PSUs when it comes to their computers, especially considering how long some of them might last
FantaStick#8008: Yeah I see it as an investment thing, a good PSU, is like a good CPU cooler or a good case, you can keep reusing it for future builds
JustinXenyx#8854: Exactly that
FantaStick#8008: Sometimes though when the budget is really tight, it's easier to sacrifice *a little* on the PSU to keep yourself with a good CPU+Mobo+GPU, or to keep an ssd in the budget, etc.
FantaStick#8008: Case by case basis, but generally if you have a good budget I recommend not overlooking the non performance related stuff
FantaStick#8008: Or performance adjacent stuff rather
Muse#0557: Imo buy a good case, power supply and storage
Muse#0557: They can be reused for ages
FantaStick#8008: Yeah |
FantaStick#8008: Although I do like switching cases with every new build just to have a new build experience/a new look
DarknessFalls229#2286: im still using a 2007 case so i can confirm that
Bwenfwake#6869: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746462219344150669/unknown.png
Bwenfwake#6869: I'm gonna see if I win this bid, hoping to accomodate the Xeon Phi with this
Muse#0557: 4820k is a decent cpu
Bwenfwake#6869: I don't need the CPU lol, just the mobo
Bwenfwake#6869: Already got a whack CPU
Bwenfwake#6869: However, if i chuck the 4820k into my current mobo I can probs get a really good overclock on it
Muse#0557: 👍
Bwenfwake#6869: Maybe 4.6GHz all core?
Bwenfwake#6869: defo 4.4GHz as I can do that with my current chip
Bwenfwake#6869: And that has double the threads lol
Flannel84#2980: Would a 550 watt psu be sufficient to overclock a Prescott Pentium 4 (3.2 GHz stock) and power a gtx 560 ti with ease? Currently 400 watt unit paired with that cpu and with a gt 545 yeilds very little positive gain in over clocking and it was determined that the psu is probably lacking. So does 550 watt give me enough overhead even with the updated gpu?
Bwenfwake#6869: yes it does indeed
Bwenfwake#6869: However, I would also have said that any decent 400W would also be fine so idk what is up there |
leewake9705#9644: hey could someone help me with my asus rog g74sx laptop?
Bwenfwake#6869: what seems to be the issue
leewake9705#9644: well when i went to install windows on it today i found out that the keyboard is backlit but it will only light up for about a second during post and then turn off when in the os but i looked it up and people say i need an atk package but i can not seem to find out how or where to get it and i would like the backlight on the keyboard to work and the rest of the fn buttons besides brightness and wireless. any help would be appriciated and if you are wondering i am running windows 7 64bit
Bwenfwake#6869: Have you got the latest BIOS running on it? https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?74028-Asus-G74SX-Keyboard-Backlight-Fix
leewake9705#9644: its running version 202 not 203 becaue i feel like i might screwsomething up then brak the computer completely
Bwenfwake#6869: It is always best to run the latest BIOS
leewake9705#9644: yes but its a high risk high reward thing i am readint the forum you sent i saw this persons first one but not thisone
leewake9705#9644: well asus makes it look easy with easyflash but just to make sure when flashing the bios it doesnt mess with hard drives right?
Bwenfwake#6869: No it does not mess with the drives at all
Bwenfwake#6869: I presume you have never done a BIOS update/flash before
leewake9705#9644: nope
leewake9705#9644: i am very scared that i would mess something up so i never have
Bwenfwake#6869: A lot of people make it sound scarier than it is, just make sure the laptop is plugged in and you'll be fine
Bwenfwake#6869: Laptop are probably easier and less hassle to do as if they do lose mains power, at least they have battery power
JustinXenyx#8854: > yes but its a high risk high reward thing i am readint the forum you sent i saw this persons first one but not thisone |
It isn't a high risk thing, you really gotta fuck up to softbreak a bios update, especially on a laptop
Bwenfwake#6869: ^
Bwenfwake#6869: I have done loads of BIOS updates, my current board uses a Modded BIOS and I've never had any issues
leewake9705#9644: well the thing is the battery on this laptop i think went into undervoltage protection so the battery does nothing
leewake9705#9644: and ok
Muse#0557: Not having a Bios update is like not installing windows security updates
leewake9705#9644: but since i am running the old version of the bios asus make a program that you can download on windows to flash it so i dont know if i should use that program or find it somewhere in the old aptio bio as it is not a gui it is just a regular grey and blue bios
Muse#0557: It's just gonna cause issues
leewake9705#9644: sorry about my typin becasue i have never typed on a 17in computer
leewake9705#9644: but yes muse you are right
leewake9705#9644: well mything is i dnt knw if the easyflash thingis in the bios or in the application becasue i think this laptop takes easyflash 2
Muse#0557: As long as you're plugged into power and not on low battery there's nothing to worry about
leewake9705#9644: wellth battery does nothing in this computer, you pull the plug and its gone
leewake9705#9644: the charging light will just always stay on butnothing happens
Muse#0557: Just don't lose power while updating |
Muse#0557: Then you're fucked
leewake9705#9644: yeah
leewake9705#9644: but my thing is if i were to flash the bios i dont know if i should use the one from asus or the one from the forum
Muse#0557: Asus
Muse#0557: Manufacturer obviously
Muse#0557: For all you know that guy wants to mine with your pc
leewake9705#9644: yeah
leewake9705#9644: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746516102057558026/new_bios_i_would_need.PNG
leewake9705#9644: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746516123452702891/i_dont_know_if_i_should_use_this.PNG
leewake9705#9644: so there is the latest bios
leewake9705#9644: but i dont know if i should use the windows bios or the bios flasher in the biosif there is one
leewake9705#9644: but yeah i mean this is the nicest computer i have and i would hate to fuck it up with myown stupidity
Bwenfwake#6869: use the BIOS flasher
Bwenfwake#6869: for within Windows
Bwenfwake#6869: They usually work better ngl |
Flannel84#2980: One last thing, since my Pentium 4 is running windows 7 64 bit, it should (in theory) be capable of handling windows 10 right? Or is there a change in architecture that would prevent this?
leewake9705#9644: No your Pentium 4 may not be able to run w10 because it might now have sse2 and pae which are the instructin sets needed to run w10 and plus I would stay on w7 with the classic thems so you aren't stressing the processor too much as if you are to install w10 the processor will be always maxed out
leewake9705#9644: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746681570491891712/IMG_20200822_124524.jpg
leewake9705#9644: Crap
SuSSudio#2688: P4 has SSE 2.0 wdym
leewake9705#9644: The first ones don't
leewake9705#9644: I used one that didn't
SuSSudio#2688: first ones did
SuSSudio#2688: Well maybe not the very first one
SuSSudio#2688: He didn't specify which P4
leewake9705#9644: Oh well yeah
leewake9705#9644: But w10 on a p4 is no good
SuSSudio#2688: Budget did a few vids on it, it runs 10, but absolutely crackers
leewake9705#9644: Yeah
leewake9705#9644: If your on w7 stay on it with the classic thems for a p4 |
leewake9705#9644: @Bwenfwake I can't update the bios within windows because it says it is made for asus notebook and i cant do it through the bios becasue there needs to be charge into the battery so yeah i have to find a battery that will ship to me somehow
Bwenfwake#6869: @leewake9705 get a new battery then
leewake9705#9644: @Bwenfwake https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746737835502993488/i_cant.PNG
leewake9705#9644: i cant
Bwenfwake#6869: That's pretty cheap ngl
JustinXenyx#8854: Try updating without the battery and on AC only @leewake9705
leewake9705#9644: it wont let me
leewake9705#9644: it says the battery needs to be plugged in and at 20%
leewake9705#9644: and it will not continue without
Bwenfwake#6869: Most laptops need a battery in them to update bios @JustinXenyx
leewake9705#9644: the only problem is that they wont ship it as it says in the picture
Bwenfwake#6869: Where in the world do ya live?
leewake9705#9644: i live in germany but i am military so they give us special mailboxes for our stuff and one of the things they wont ship is batteries or anything with a battery besides phones
Bwenfwake#6869: Huh
Bwenfwake#6869: This... Is not ideal |
leewake9705#9644: yeah
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah he lives in Ramstein, there is a military base there
JustinXenyx#8854: APO is Army Post Office or something like that
leewake9705#9644: well i live on the neighboring volgeweh but close enough
Bwenfwake#6869: Are you able to get an exception for the battery?
JustinXenyx#8854: Different idea: try to order something locally then
Bwenfwake#6869: Actually tbf... You could ask a local shop if you could have it delivered to them
leewake9705#9644: the only problem is i would need a german resident adress
Bwenfwake#6869: And then ya can collect it from there
Muse#0557: Most couriers do click and collect to local corner shops and lockers
Bwenfwake#6869: Indeed
leewake9705#9644: well my thing is the closest one to me is like 10 mins away but i dont know if they are open and if they speak english becasue i dont speak german
Bwenfwake#6869: Tbf, most Germans speak English. Even if they don't someone close by will
leewake9705#9644: yeah thats true
JustinXenyx#8854: Also: Amazon Lockers are a thing |
Bwenfwake#6869: ^
leewake9705#9644: yeah but only for germans
JustinXenyx#8854: Dunno if there are any close/in Ramstein, but those are still a possibility
JustinXenyx#8854: Well you can use amazon accounts no matter where you are
JustinXenyx#8854: You could use a US amazon account to order in germany and so on
leewake9705#9644: yeah well we have americian and german amazon accounts but they dont have as much stuff on the german amazon as they do the americian one
leewake9705#9644: but i could look on the german one
Bwenfwake#6869: All the same though.... You also don't *have* to use Amazon
Bwenfwake#6869: There are likely other shops that will have the battery you need.
leewake9705#9644: do you think this is sketchy https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746740419555229716/does_this_seem_sketchy.PNG
Bwenfwake#6869: Nah
leewake9705#9644: 35 euros tho
JustinXenyx#8854: Probably even less sketchy than the amazon listing to be honest
Bwenfwake#6869: I mean sure... It is green cell but they do make somewhat OK batteries
Bwenfwake#6869: Just don't get a charger from greencell and you'll be fine |
leewake9705#9644: dont wory i still have the asus delta 150w psu that came with the laptop
Bwenfwake#6869: Good
leewake9705#9644: but i mean i would have to see how this place would ship to me
Bwenfwake#6869: Tbf, 4400mah battery is quite expensive at that price even
leewake9705#9644: yeah
leewake9705#9644: the og battery is 5200mah
Bwenfwake#6869: Nah as in, I have bought 4400mah batteries for less than £20, I'd call 35 euro expensive
leewake9705#9644: but really all i need is a bench power supply to trickle charge the battery until the computer can recognise it and then charge it
leewake9705#9644: and ok
Bwenfwake#6869: True true
Bwenfwake#6869: Should be fine
leewake9705#9644: yeah becasuse i dont know how long ago the battery was charged becasue i am the 2nd owner so yeah
JustinXenyx#8854: 4400mah at 14.4V though @Bwenfwake
JustinXenyx#8854: whole different level than just mAh count
Bwenfwake#6869: I've honestly paid less for one at a higher voltage |
Bwenfwake#6869: Still, it's not tit for tat aha
leewake9705#9644: but ya
leewake9705#9644: kinda in a dillie of a pickle
Bwenfwake#6869: Nah there are ways around it like we've mentioned
Bwenfwake#6869: Your choice as to how ya get it to ya
leewake9705#9644: yeah
leewake9705#9644: oops
leewake9705#9644: alwyas look where you are typing before you do
Muse#0557: Rip
leewake9705#9644: im pretty sure this is fake https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746743282486214706/im_pretty_sure_this_is_bad.PNG
leewake9705#9644: this is on amazon germany @Bwenfwake
leewake9705#9644: well i found one with reviews for 29,90 euros
Bwenfwake#6869: Wish I could read German
leewake9705#9644: me too
Muse#0557: Looks low quality not fake |
Flannel84#2980: @SuSSudio The Pentium 4 is the P4 HT 3.2E SL7QB. Should that have the right instruction set?
SuSSudio#2688: @Flannel84 That's Prescott, certainly
Little Billy#3065: best gaming pc is a houseplant change my mind
Flannel84#2980: Cool, now I can eventually turn it into a windows 10 PC when windows 7 is too far gone.
vegetal#8870: you run a p4? yikes
vegetal#8870: get something better asap
Flannel84#2980: it's my side project. My main PC is a ryzen 5 3600x and a RTX2070
DarknessFalls229#2286: @Little Billy https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746778041740689428/20200822_190912.jpg
TheFifthAce#4128: > LTT PSU tier list is not the end all be all on PSU ratings, look at actual specs and reviews yourself and do your own research
@FantaStick all my homies hate the ltt tier list
FantaStick#8008: Yes
FantaStick#8008: I don't hate the list itself, just the way it's religiously followed as a sacred text or something
wiryfuture🦀#1706: but, it's LTT
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Lit Tech Tips ~~no drugs~~
Muse#0557: Time for muse psu list? |
Muse#0557: @Tech Helper What else was wrong with this list and or missing?#
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746840486932905994/CPU_Hierarchy_V1.png
Muse#0557: I'll fix it right now
leewake9705#9644: your missing the 8600gt
Muse#0557: See i dont think thats a relevant cpu
Muse#0557: just a hunch
leewake9705#9644: oh oops i thought we were talking about gpus
JustinXenyx#8854: Start with FX8000/9000 as the lowest and discard anything that doesn't feature modern instruction sets
JustinXenyx#8854: Because quite frankly those chips won't be relevant to the ***wide*** majority of people
Muse#0557: It'd be more work to take cpus way than to keep them there
Muse#0557: So theres no really point
leewake9705#9644: do you mean the first athlon 64s ot the 64x2
JustinXenyx#8854: ~~How is it more work~~
JustinXenyx#8854: Well it's more work, but it isn't a lot of work
Muse#0557: Because i want it to stay 16:9 |
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