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Muse#0557: and its not worth fathing around
Muse#0557: if they can just stay there being semi pointless
Muse#0557: Ive gotten rid of the 9590 and put the 8350 in its place
Muse#0557: what else needs adjusting
JustinXenyx#8854: I still think that anything without modern instructions has no point being there
JustinXenyx#8854: > See i dont think thats a relevant cpu
referring to your own wording, they have basically 0 relevancy
Muse#0557: Personally i use a x3440 and havent touched many super modern games
Muse#0557: can see atleast a few people sharing this position
Muse#0557: they arent doing any harm by being there
Muse#0557: would rather be inclusive than exclusive
Muse#0557: 🙏
JustinXenyx#8854: They still don't hold any relevancy though
Muse#0557: Then lets worry about the cpus that do hold relevancy and are in the wrong place
JustinXenyx#8854: 7700K, 6700K, 3300X 1600X, 5820K and 6700K all need to shuffle around |
Muse#0557: In what way?
Muse#0557: I think the 7700k needs to go up
JustinXenyx#8854: 7700K, 6700K and 3300X trade position with the 6800K and 5820K and the 1600X needs to go up
Muse#0557: put the 5820k above the 3300x and 7700k?
JustinXenyx#8854: Yup
Muse#0557: but its about the speed of a 1600
TheFifthAce#4128: 5820k should definitely be below 3300x
TheFifthAce#4128: nobody should be buying x99
Muse#0557: not even about buying
Muse#0557: the 3300x slams a 5820k
TheFifthAce#4128: 5820k is garbo
Muse#0557: i bet in productivity
Muse#0557: not just games
JustinXenyx#8854: Nah, even with Haswell-E i think the 5820K over all has a leg up
JustinXenyx#8854: 4c/8t isn't getting any better as time goes on |
TheFifthAce#4128: 5820k is haswell
JustinXenyx#8854: right, Haswell-E
TheFifthAce#4128: 22nm
TheFifthAce#4128: haswell
Muse#0557: A 5820k does not go above a 3300x
Muse#0557: its essentially a 1600
TheFifthAce#4128: 3300x destroys the 5820k
Muse#0557: 6800k is nearly a 1600x
Muse#0557: even then the 1600x is worse than the 7700k and 6700k in gaming by a chunk
JustinXenyx#8854: well that's why i said 1600x and 5820K and 6800k on the same position
TheFifthAce#4128: gotta love how fucking garbage userbenchmark is
TheFifthAce#4128: it lists the 5820k as faster than the 3300x despite showing the 3300x being faster
Muse#0557: user benchmark thinks the 7740x is the best cpu ever
TheFifthAce#4128: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746844077751926845/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: like |
TheFifthAce#4128: ???
TheFifthAce#4128: how is the 5820k =0% faster if the 3300x has far better single core
JustinXenyx#8854: I defs think that CPU hierarchy will get rather difficult if we focus on too many things though
TheFifthAce#4128: the 5820k is slower
TheFifthAce#4128: just that simple
JustinXenyx#8854: I think we'd be best off taking out HEDT platforms and focusing on gaming-only
TheFifthAce#4128: its slower and to make it even close not only do you need watercooling but you need an expensive motherboard
TheFifthAce#4128: like it draws 140w at base
Muse#0557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746844472511561769/unknown.png
TheFifthAce#4128: this list is stupid
Muse#0557: Want it be a mix between productivity and gaming
Muse#0557: oof
JustinXenyx#8854: 7740X goes out
JustinXenyx#8854: literally 0 value having that one on there
Muse#0557: Aight |
TheFifthAce#4128: why is the i3 550 on there
JustinXenyx#8854: 3300x being 2 classes above 3100 isn't fair either imo
TheFifthAce#4128: and why doesnt it have the i3
JustinXenyx#8854: 3100 goes atleast with the 6700k
Muse#0557: 3100 suffers from not having XFR2 a lot
Muse#0557: yeh the 3100 goes up
Muse#0557: to the 6700k
TheFifthAce#4128: 4790k should bee mid lower
TheFifthAce#4128: alongside the 3770k
JustinXenyx#8854: 4790k and 4770k should be listed as one thing really
TheFifthAce#4128: it draws too much power and outputs too much heat and costs too much to be put up any higher than lower mid range
TheFifthAce#4128: a 3100 is faster and costs less
Muse#0557: Its not about power
Muse#0557: or being balanced
TheFifthAce#4128: this entire list is stupid |
Muse#0557: its about raw perf
Muse#0557: im making a buyers guide down the road
JustinXenyx#8854: if we talk about raw performance a 5820k would have to go up lmao
TheFifthAce#4128: having a 'raw performance' graph is stupid
FantaStick#8008: @TheFifthAce *saying whats on all of our minds*
TheFifthAce#4128: because raw performance means nothing
TheFifthAce#4128: this helps nobody
TheFifthAce#4128: who is going to be helped by this graph
Muse#0557: should of worded that better
TheFifthAce#4128: a graph that scales performance alongside value would be infinitely more useful
Muse#0557: Ordering cpus in order of performance based on a mix of gaming and productivity applications
Muse#0557: That will come too ab
TheFifthAce#4128: because while a 4790k is faster than a 3770k, it shouldn't be bought over a 4790k
JustinXenyx#8854: > a graph that scales performance alongside value would be infinitely more useful
@TheFifthAce well then all the HEDT platforms + cpus lacking modern instruction sets would have to go lmao |
TheFifthAce#4128: this shouldnt be a graph
TheFifthAce#4128: this should just be @Lumaterian's frequency/score chart
Muse#0557: ._.
TheFifthAce#4128: muse
TheFifthAce#4128: what is the point
TheFifthAce#4128: of making a shiny graph for this
TheFifthAce#4128: if you arent including every cpu
Lumaterian#3557: argh
Lumaterian#3557: what
Muse#0557: because people are lazy
TheFifthAce#4128: @Lumaterian giv cpu chart
TheFifthAce#4128: :hoes:
Lumaterian#3557: which one
TheFifthAce#4128: uh
TheFifthAce#4128: I only remember the one |
TheFifthAce#4128: :woag:
Lumaterian#3557: like, the IPC chart? it's got holes
TheFifthAce#4128: :woag:
TheFifthAce#4128: ye
Muse#0557: people are too lazy and up their own arses to go look at timespy and 3d mark benchmarks
TheFifthAce#4128: thats why
TheFifthAce#4128: you make a chart for it
Muse#0557: ._
Lumaterian#3557: wait we talking cpu right
TheFifthAce#4128: yes
Muse#0557: give it to me and ill make it pretty
Lumaterian#3557: well I can post what I got
TheFifthAce#4128: hooray
Muse#0557: rank them by points
TheFifthAce#4128: yes muse |
TheFifthAce#4128: that would be way more useful
TheFifthAce#4128: having a vague "this is faster than this one so its in the next category up" is stupid
Lumaterian#3557: 1 sec
Muse#0557: will have to make a buyers guide also still
Muse#0557: otherwise the 9960x or whatever
Muse#0557: will look godly
Lumaterian#3557: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746847168647921714/IPC_Incomplete.png
TheFifthAce#4128: very vibe
Muse#0557: umm
Lumaterian#3557: margin of error 0.25%
Muse#0557: lots of big numbers
Muse#0557: need to make sense of it
Lumaterian#3557: except IVB, margin is like
TheFifthAce#4128: wasnt there another chart
TheFifthAce#4128: :woag: |
Lumaterian#3557: 0.75% on those
Lumaterian#3557: there's an actual cinebench score chart
Muse#0557: thats just ipc tho
Lumaterian#3557: lots of those
Muse#0557: not specific cpus
Lumaterian#3557: give me a minute I can give you all my firm data
Muse#0557: tyu
Muse#0557: ty
Lumaterian#3557: some of my data is a little wonky
Lumaterian#3557: I'll exclude that
Muse#0557: aight cheif
Lumaterian#3557: it's taking a minute lol
Muse#0557: Can somebody make group chat with like the tech helpers and luma in so we can actually keep track of things
Lumaterian#3557: @Muse @TheFifthAce https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746852201363800198/Cinebench_Firm.png
Lumaterian#3557: also this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746852225456013362/SMT_Scaling.png |
Muse#0557: I'll work on it tomorrow
TheFifthAce#4128: very woag
Lumaterian#3557: I have more data to add, and more stuff to math out
Lumaterian#3557: and testing to finish on the R3 3100
Lumaterian#3557: but that's everything concrete I have right now
Lumaterian#3557: all those have my lowest margin for error
Lumaterian#3557: and the reason the steppings are included is different steppings have small but repeatable variation in scoring
Muse#0557: Where is this data from
Muse#0557: There's quite a lot of cpus
Lumaterian#3557: my personal testing
Lumaterian#3557: I don't use anyone else's numbers
Lumaterian#3557: I try to keep it as controlled as possible
Lumaterian#3557: but there are variables I can't control
Muse#0557: You owned a 7800x
Lumaterian#3557: not exactly |
Lumaterian#3557: 7800X/7820X are the anomalies
Lumaterian#3557: I disabled cores on 7900X
Muse#0557: Ah
Muse#0557: Did you sell the 7900x
Lumaterian#3557: yes
Muse#0557: Gotcha
Lumaterian#3557: sadly before I did SMT testing
Lumaterian#3557: those numbers *should* be accurate though
Lumaterian#3557: since cinebench doesn't care about mesh gaps
Lumaterian#3557: and disabling the cores turns off their L3 cache
Lumaterian#3557: unlike on ring bus chips
Muse#0557: Wish I had the money to just buy and sell cpus like mad
Muse#0557: Get everything benched
Lumaterian#3557: also of note
Lumaterian#3557: the sandy-e testing was conducted on 3960X |
Lumaterian#3557: but ivy-e was 4930K
Lumaterian#3557: 15MB vs 12MB cache
Lumaterian#3557: however
Lumaterian#3557: I also tested 3930K and the numbers were identical to 3960X
Lumaterian#3557: so 4930K *should* represent 4960X as well
Lumaterian#3557: and some of the naming is a little weird like piledriver is FX-2 so I could fit it in the titlebar
Muse#0557: I'll try compare your numbers on uncertain cpus to other reliable sources
Lumaterian#3557: I have compared to hardware unboxed a couple times, they were pretty close
Lumaterian#3557: sadly GN doesn't test cinebench
Lumaterian#3557: I use realtime process priority and take the best result of 5 non-outlier runs
Lumaterian#3557: and I compare scaling data between clockspeeds
Lumaterian#3557: if something deviates too hard it's removed
Lumaterian#3557: which is why Skylake-X has no results under 3.3GHz
Lumaterian#3557: and why Broadwell-E stops at 3.6
mi3night#2562: I7 5960x users be like :yellow: |
Lumaterian#3557: also if an AVX offset was available it was locked to zero
Lumaterian#3557: of course
Lumaterian#3557: and if turbo limits expired (for locked cpus) the run was scrapped
Lumaterian#3557: 9400F sadly didn't make it into the chart at all
mi3night#2562: Dude 😠
Lumaterian#3557: since I couldn't get the turbo limit to stop
mi3night#2562: Why did u switch from 8700k to 3600. So you can make ez $150
mi3night#2562: I’m maddddd
Lumaterian#3557: I just switched to i3 10100
Lumaterian#3557: more ez money
Lumaterian#3557: part of the goal of all my testing is to figure out what the cheapest cpu I can use for my rig and still do everything I want is
Lumaterian#3557: so far it's i3 10100
JustinXenyx#8854: i think it isn't even about having ez cash, when switching rigs quite often you can gather a lot of testing data
Lumaterian#3557: yeah I buy low sell high
Lumaterian#3557: I've actually made money gathering this data |
FantaStick#8008: can confirm
Alcyone#2233: scaliing seems good for the cpus ive used, this is 2700k@5ghz https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/746855928212750457/cb15-2700k.png
Lumaterian#3557: I have a lot more data but some of it is a little wonky
Lumaterian#3557: the numbers I've posted (with the possible exception of those X299 ones) I stand behind fully
JustinXenyx#8854: All of my personal testing data is rather wonky lmao, because i don't try to stop any testing anomalies and don't test to 100% accuracy
JustinXenyx#8854: Serves me 100% fine but the numbers would be useless compared to other testing data
Alcyone#2233: i dont do any real testing, and if I did it would have no validity overall since I am pushiing max overclocks and its silicon+skill dependent
Lumaterian#3557: my GPU testing is the best score I was able to achieve in a set of three benchmarks
Lumaterian#3557: with the best OC I can get
Lumaterian#3557: that one is a lot less scientific
Lumaterian#3557: especially since gpu driver updates can change the performance
Alcyone#2233: yes especially with older gpus
Alcyone#2233: sometimes the latest isnt the best for a given synthetic
Lumaterian#3557: I did my initial testing with my 5600 XT on my 8700K OCed to 4.8GHz with driver 20.4.2, then I tested again on i3 10100 at stock with driver 20.8.2 and 2nd config won
Lumaterian#3557: I don't bother using older versions, I just grab the latest and fire away |
Lumaterian#3557: but yeah hopefully my data is useful
JustinXenyx#8854: Well that will be the exact opposite of what i'm going to do next week :haha:
JustinXenyx#8854: Getting a fresh 580 next week and i'm gonna test driver stability relative to performance
Lumaterian#3557: nice
Alcyone#2233: Im usiing a r9 290 while I wait for the new cards. its been fine on all but the earliest 20.xx
Alcyone#2233: 17.7.2 is the best driver for benchmarking though
Lumaterian#3557: the only drivers I've ever had issues on were the amd beta drivers
Lumaterian#3557: with my 580
Lumaterian#3557: was a 19.5 or so release
Lumaterian#3557: the one driver comparison I ran was a 17.12 driver vs a 19.9 driver
Lumaterian#3557: the 580 in question got like a 12% performance boost if I remember right
Lumaterian#3557: in superposition (I think)
Gamefreak924#5901: I know that there have been expresscard adapters for external gpu setups, but how come there hasn't been an expresscard with built in graphics, like processors do? Is there a limitation on it? I imagine it would make things easier, especially for older systems.
JustinXenyx#8854: Quite a simple answer!
JustinXenyx#8854: Nobody fucking wanted those! |
JustinXenyx#8854: :Xdxdxd:
Gamefreak924#5901: :/
JustinXenyx#8854: Don't think it's possible either because of form factor + power restriction
Gamefreak924#5901: pretty sure expresscard provides some power
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh and the most obvious idea why nobody would even attempt it: the massively restricted PCIe interface
JustinXenyx#8854: > pretty sure expresscard provides some power
Some power, but likely not enough for an eGPU
Gamefreak924#5901: for something resembling Intel HD graphics, I don't see why not
JustinXenyx#8854: "The ExpressCard standard specifies voltages of either 1.5 V or 3.3 V" that's an instant NOPE
Gamefreak924#5901: oop
xmassguy#1303: For those of you who play car mechanic simulator the recommended is an i-5 3.4ghz cpu and a gtx 970 I have a gtx 1060 6gb and an amd fx 8350 so why when i play on medium settings do i only get 30 fps in the game 30 fps is max not on a menu i also have 8gb of ram but with task manager open it shows my cpu at around 50%usage but my gpu is maxed out
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I was playing some Half-Life 2 earlier when the audio suddenly degraded in quality until it was silent and there was only static. Windows 10 registers sound as playing, but the most I can get are bloop noises from audio tests and crackles from other audio sources. Has my sound card died?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I've been trying to reinstall my drivers all day but no matter which one I try to reinstall the problem persists
Deleted User#0000: Have you tried taking it out of the PCIe slot and reinserting it? It's possible that it's somehow not making good contact
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: It's a part of the mobo, so I can't remove it |
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I just used the troubleshooter to reinstall drives. I still have the static but windows doesn't register anything as plugged in
Deleted User#0000: Oh, you've broken the onboard audio?
Muse#0557: Taking out the pci-e slot
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I don't know if it's broken yet
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: although most likely it is
Deleted User#0000: I assumed that when they said 'sound card', they meant a PCIe sound card
Deleted User#0000: Not onboard sound
Muse#0557: Nvm
Muse#0557: Am too tired to read properly
Muse#0557: 4:47 gang
Deleted User#0000: Ayyy
Deleted User#0000: 4:48 now though
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I could try joining VC to see if my voice quality is changed
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: keep in mind that it was already pretty bad
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: no input for the microphone |
Deleted User#0000: Is it the front panel audio or rear panel audio that's broken?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: front panel
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: whenever I plug anything into the rear panel nothing happens
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: doesn't even register as something being in there
Deleted User#0000: Perhaps it's a problem with your device then?
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: I could try opening it up and seeing if any cables are wonky
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: there is dust or hair or something on the connector
Deleted User#0000: Removing that would be a start
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: will now I have a completely blue screen
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: back to Black
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: normal Windows 10 boot
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: No static so far
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: perfect sound
Dstroyer101ftw#6616: i credit this victory to you
Bwenfwake#6869: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-DL380P-Gen8-2-x-E5-2609-v2-16GB-530FLR-12-x-LFF-Rack-Server/264829825490 |
Bwenfwake#6869: I Bought myself a server
Bwenfwake#6869: I can chuck my Xeon Phi in this hopefully
Xbox 360 1953#2640: From what I hear, whenever a new ddr comes out it's usually not as good as the high-end previous Gen stuff at first, whats the reason for that?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Well maybe not a reason I'm looking for
Xbox 360 1953#2640: More like, what about it isn't as good
JustinXenyx#8854: Well the old memory generation already had time to optimize their processes etc etc
Xbox 360 1953#2640: The reason I'm asking this is because now that we have better ddr4 than when it first became a thing I was wondering how itd compare to late ddr3
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Early DDR4 is worse than a well binned kit of late DDR3.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: RAM latency has a lot to do with this.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: My JEDEC DDR3L kit runs at 2133MHz 11-11-11-29-39. My XMP DDR4 defaults to 2400MHz 15-15-15-35-50, with JEDEC it defaults to 2133MHz 15-15-15-36-50. My JEDEC DDR3L kit has lower latency then my XMP DDR4 kit.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: It is worth noting my DDR4 kit is for Haswell. Not even Skylake. It still works with newer CPU's they just where not out yet.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/747321104418471936/unknown.png
uoʇsodɾ#2412: JEDEC #5 is directly comparable for latency not bandwidth.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://www.techspot.com/news/62129-ddr3-vs-ddr4-raw-bandwidth-numbers.html
LaeMat#0420: Hello, my friend has an AMD Ryzen 3200G, and can’t play CSGO on Windows 10. Windows is activated, but every time he tries playing CSGO his PC blue screens with error “THREAD STUCK IN DEVICE DRIVER”, any ideas? |
LaeMat#0420: He’s using the APU, no other GPU
Alcyone#2233: ddu and reinstall the latest gpu driver
LaeMat#0420: He has many times
LaeMat#0420: Same result
LaeMat#0420: Lemme see though
D.D.M#8226: I think this is why it happens https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/747537794007564309/Screenshot_20200824-212757_Edge.jpg
D.D.M#8226: Weird
D.D.M#8226: Does that only happen with cs go?
D.D.M#8226: Or other games
LaeMat#0420: He said it only happened in CS
LaeMat#0420: And one of the stuck threads was windows activation
LaeMat#0420: so I **totally gave him a totally legal key**
LaeMat#0420: which worked for him
BigPierogi#3368: Windows activation shouldn't stop you from running a game though
LaeMat#0420: Same error again |
LaeMat#0420: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/747543265762607104/image0.jpg
LaeMat#0420: Any ideas?
Bwenfwake#6869: Might be a good shout to update Bios if it is not up date date, he may be using an old BIOS with new drivers
Bwenfwake#6869: Other than that, making sure windows has updated and he's got the right or up to date drivers
LaeMat#0420: He’s trying old drivers since Vega 56 users say those work
Bwenfwake#6869: Aight, it's also a good shout for him to try an sfc scannow
Bwenfwake#6869: See if his install is messed up
Bwenfwake#6869: Otherwise I got no idea for him
LaeMat#0420: how does he do that
Bwenfwake#6869: :facepalm:
Lady Mipha#0611: put into a command prompt sfc /scannow @LaeMat
LaeMat#0420: He’s already doing it
LaeMat#0420: already resetting
FantaStick#8008: when in doubt, reinstall windows
Bwenfwake#6869: This is not always a feesable answer for most users though |
Bwenfwake#6869: Especially not if they're not very tech savvy
LaeMat#0420: He’s looked for the closest results to the same problems and both were fixed with a reset
LaeMat#0420: After a reset it worked for a bit but same error
LaeMat#0420: he’s trying scannow
LaeMat#0420: He did it
LaeMat#0420: And nothing helped
LaeMat#0420: Didn’t work
LaeMat#0420: He found the issue
LaeMat#0420: His keyboard was causing it to crash
Aihio#2991: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/747752326605045850/unknown.png
Aihio#2991: Any recommendations to change something?
vegetal#8870: get ssd
vegetal#8870: and ryzen mayb
MythologicalZ#3752: locked cml and single channel is not worth it, get ssd
JustinXenyx#8854: I think you're definitely choosing wrong by going locked Intel with single channel and only hdd is also rather stupid |
JustinXenyx#8854: The PSU isn't very high quality and the stock cooler isn't enough for the 10400F iirc
JustinXenyx#8854: That case is so cheap it scares me
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^
JustinXenyx#8854: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/YpKptp Just for an example: this build over all is much more upgrade friendly as it has 4 memory slots over 2, already has double the memory on it, a much faster NVMe SSD, the case and power supply are also much improved while being about the same cost
JustinXenyx#8854: Going lower than 16GB isn't really worth it in my opinion, given that 8GB really is becoming more of a minimum with modern gaming and 8GB isn't really all that much cheaper
Lady Mipha#0611: ^^^^ that i can agree with
JustinXenyx#8854: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/j3RvTC although i might spend another 6€ (making the whole thing just 16€ more expensive) to get a 1650 with much better ports
JustinXenyx#8854: Alternatively buying a used graphics card is always an option, which would also help reduce costs further for buying a hard drive now instead of later on
JustinXenyx#8854: But **BIG DISCLAIMER**: Nvidia and AMD are both supposed to release their new graphics cards sometime in the next couple months, which means buying a new graphics card now isn't really the thing you should go for, as they might be A. reduced in price with the new cards B. outclassed by a newer card for the same price and obviously C. the used market will be filled with people selling their old graphics cards for cheap, meaning you could possibly get a much better card or the same card for much cheaper
TheFifthAce#4128: 8gb is not enough in 2020
vegetal#8870: its low end but enough imo
Aihio#2991: Umm
Aihio#2991: What is the cheapest recommendable PSU?
JustinXenyx#8854: I think i wouldn't go below the System Power 9
Aihio#2991: What about Corsair VS650? |
JustinXenyx#8854: That one is worse
JustinXenyx#8854: And you don't need 650W either
Aihio#2991: outervision.com/power-supply-calculator this site recommended it for me
JustinXenyx#8854: If you need 650W you shouldn't be cheaping out on the PSU too
JustinXenyx#8854: With either the Intel or AMD rig you wouldn't go above 300W realistically
JustinXenyx#8854: Also, just to note this, the Intel rig would require more power than the AMD rig i've configured but neither go above 300W realistically
Aihio#2991: Hmm aight then
Aihio#2991: I think I have to wait a couple weeks till I purchase anything right now
FantaStick#8008: Never use power supply calculator sites, they're all biased and misleading because they're affiliate marketing sites designed to make themselves money
FantaStick#8008: Google power draw for CPU+GPU, add 50W for Mobo, fans and drives, and figure out a psu wattage with a nice little bit of overhead
leewake9705#9644: @FantaStick thank you for this information because this is helpful for me.
Baus#4058: lads a question
Baus#4058: would you buy 3rd gen ryzen or wait for 4th
Deleted User#0000: I'm waiting for 4th so I can get a discount on 3rd
Baus#4058: hmm |
Baus#4058: thats a very good strategy to be honest
Deleted User#0000: I'm hoping to get a second hand CPU, a pretty cheap mobo and ram, and possibly an SSD to boot from if I can afford it
FantaStick#8008: Yeah wait for 4th so that prices on 3rd drop, wishful thinking but if 3700x follows the same pattern the 2700x does I can get myself a horde of them for 130$ each lol
FantaStick#8008: 4th isn't going to be too much of an improvement over 3rd as far as I can tell, maybe a few skus that hit 4.8 or something and minor IPC improvements, won't be worth it over whatever you will be able to get a 3rd gen chip for at that point
FantaStick#8008: Also afaik b450 and x470 arent slated for official 4000 support (although that could easily change, maybe with a bios update that drops your OG zen support or something)
Kacpreusz#7656: I don't know what os i should put on my laptop
Kacpreusz#7656: It's a ThinkPad T420 with a second gen i5 2.5ghz, 3.2ghz turbo, i will upgrade it with 8gb of ram and a 256gb SSD
Mike Gaming#2729: I don't need help but would anyone know why when ever I install grub boot loader arfter 3 goes it stops working
Mike Gaming#2729: I don't have windows installed
Mike Gaming#2729: And it's a arch install
Gamefreak924#5901: If a laptop is only listed as able to support up to 4GB ram but people are able to get it to 6GB, is it safe?
Gamefreak924#5901: I need quick help with this
Gamefreak924#5901: Chipset says it only supports 4gb too
Kacpreusz#7656: If it supports only 4gb, obviously 6gb won't work @Gamefreak924
Gamefreak924#5901: No, 6GB works for people |
Gamefreak924#5901: Plenty have succeeded
Muse#0557: I don't see 6gb working
Gamefreak924#5901: Well it apparently does according to everyone who tried it online
Gamefreak924#5901: Inspiron 1525
Racey#8574: yeah it works
Kacpreusz#7656: Then try it, that won't break anything
wiryfuture🦀#1706: i don;t understand how devices have ram limits
wiryfuture🦀#1706: surely only the cpu has a limit on ram and the mobo
wiryfuture🦀#1706: like, an artificial lock in the bios?
BigPierogi#3368: I think its chipset related
BigPierogi#3368: But I might be wrong
Racey#8574: GM965 officially supports 4 GB maximum but everyone said fuck Intel and it supports 6 GB
Racey#8574: 4+2
wiryfuture🦀#1706: :haha:
Ramiere#1840: Whats a good wifi adapter? I want a reliable one the one i have turns off if I upload two things at once |
JustinXenyx#8854: Generally, avoid USB wifi adapters @Ramiere
JustinXenyx#8854: If you want a good one, you'll have to spend a decent dime to get a PCI-E one
Gamefreak924#5901: USB adapters are good for cost, but reliability can take a hit
Gamefreak924#5901: use pcie
JustinXenyx#8854: They're not even good for the cost, the majority of them overheat like motherfuckers and can be bandwidth limited by USB 2
JustinXenyx#8854: Like even the cheapest PCI-E one will still kick the shit out of a similarly priced USB one
Gamefreak924#5901: they're only like $15
Gamefreak924#5901: pcie is usually twice the amount
Ramiere#1840: Bummer i dont think i have enough space for a pcie one but ill try it though and if it doesnt fit ill just send it back
Thanks though
JustinXenyx#8854: > pcie is usually twice the amount
Which is **precisely** why i said "even the cheapest PCI-E one will still kick the shit out of a similarly priced USB one", because the cheapest PCI-E ones usually are around $10-15
Gamefreak924#5901: my pcie one was an Asus AC750 card
Gamefreak924#5901: $30 |
Gamefreak924#5901: not top of the line, but good enough for my needs and cost
Ramiere#1840: Do you have a specific one in mind?
Dogecode#7321: I use a 12 year old Linksys USB dongle and it seems to work fine
Muse#0557: Only use USB adapters if they are like 2 bucks and you're desperate
Dogecode#7321: Then again I’m lucky to get 5-10 mbps on my connection so it doesn’t really matter
Muse#0557: An old pcie card out of a workstation will slam any USB WiFi dongle
Ramiere#1840: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/748016652649758730/image0.png
Ramiere#1840: What do you guys think of this one
Muse#0557: Honestly just go on ebay and find something out of a 1366 Workstation for 5 quid
mi3night#2562: @Ramiere no no no
mi3night#2562: That’s WiFi N adapter idk if it would even do 5g
mi3night#2562: There’s 2 options. Either get a USB WiFi stick which is easiest
mi3night#2562: Or get a intel AX200 plus the pcie adapter for it
mi3night#2562: I would get ax200 because it would last a decade or so until like 20gbps becomes the norm and WiFi ax gets outdated
Ramiere#1840: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/748064622812069929/image0.png |
Ramiere#1840: Is this good? @mi3night
mi3night#2562: @Ramiere links
mi3night#2562: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08DQXJ2TK/ref=sspa_mw_detail_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1
mi3night#2562: This is preferred
mi3night#2562: Because it has detachable antenna
mi3night#2562: $45 is a bit high but it’s worth it
vegetal#8870: i have 50mbps wifi :Hahahahaha:
Kacpreusz#7656: What os should i put on my laptop? It's a ThinkPad T420 with a second gen. i5 2,5ghz 3,2ghz turbo, 8gb of ddr3 and a cheap 256gb ssd
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I am watching a russian person to try figure out how to use this gps module https://youtu.be/U6UF_4mEilY
JustinXenyx#8854: Windows 10 would run fine @Kacpreusz
JustinXenyx#8854: But pick the OS you're most comfortable with
JustinXenyx#8854: Not based on hardware capabilities
vegetal#8870: > What os should i put on my laptop? It's a ThinkPad T420 with a second gen. i5 2,5ghz 3,2ghz turbo, 8gb of ddr3 and a cheap 256gb ssd
heh 420
JustinXenyx#8854: @Ramiere that one is good, especially for $30 |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/748162596410228837/Screenshot_20200826-145038.png
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: wtf is "slc caching" some bs marketing to make it appear as if they have slc nand and dram at the same time ( which from the second pic is obvious there isnt xD) two birds one big advertising bs? :Hahahahaha: :Hahahahaha: ???? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/748162975751340122/Screenshot_20200826-144808.png
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/748163123093045248/Screenshot_20200826-145301.png
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: dramless
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: WTH IS SLC CACHING
FantaStick#8008: The most basic form of cache
JustinXenyx#8854: SLC caching is better than no caching at all, but it is a very basic and cheap caching form
FantaStick#8008: Single Layer Cell cache, not as quick as dram, but still a lot faster and more durable than the TLC or qlc it's caching for
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: hmmm
FantaStick#8008: Now you could be a Chad and use only SLC enterprise drives
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: well thats a new one for me tbh never heard of this
JustinXenyx#8854: To note though, proper SLC ssds are fucking expensive and they need a ton of flash chips
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ye
FantaStick#8008: Yeah
FantaStick#8008: But they're lit as fuck |
JustinXenyx#8854: The whole reason why SSDs are getting cheaper is flash innovation, although QLC really is trash technology right now
FantaStick#8008: Sometimes they pop up on eBay pretty cheap
FantaStick#8008: Don't worry
FantaStick#8008: PLC is coming
FantaStick#8008: Even less durability
FantaStick#8008: But cheap as fuck I hope
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: what if ram started to do cells :JellyBeanFace:
JustinXenyx#8854: PLC flash basically will replace hard drives lmao
JustinXenyx#8854: @the aggresive toilet flusher That is not how it works
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: instead of *MORE RANK*
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i know but what if
JustinXenyx#8854: You'd need to have the most stupid theoretical scenario, because RAM would be devastated with multi-level flash technology given that it is RAM
FantaStick#8008: Cheap PLC drives with shit controllers are probably gonna be just as slow as hard drives and definitely not worth it
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: o yeah speed
FantaStick#8008: The better PLC drives could be worth it as secondary storage drives |
JustinXenyx#8854: > Cheap PLC drives with shit controllers are probably gonna be just as slow as hard drives and definitely not worth it
Well if everything goes according to plan it'll still be a decent bit faster than HDDs (especially in random access) while pretty much competing with them price wise
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: and harddrives will probably have a longer lifetime than plc
FantaStick#8008: Lifespan is the main arguement against cheap PLC
JustinXenyx#8854: I think it's a valid point, but only to an extent in the consumer space
JustinXenyx#8854: If PLC can have decent enough reliability to the point where it isn't too far off a proper hard drive i don't think it will matter to consumers
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: hey and less mechanical parts to worry about
FantaStick#8008: We will have to see
FantaStick#8008: Depends a lot on which controllers they use
FantaStick#8008: Cause some like to commit the die randomly
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: a400 moment
JustinXenyx#8854: As long as we get no Phison S11 bullshit and PLC drives will have DRAM caching i think it'll be fine
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: is dram caching expensive?
JustinXenyx#8854: it's not cheap, but i think the PLC flash will negate some of the cost for DRAM cache
FantaStick#8008: Dram costs approximately 2.50 per GB |
FantaStick#8008: So depending on how much cache you actually want to include
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ur talking about slc?@FantaStick
FantaStick#8008: No
JustinXenyx#8854: SLC is flash, not DRAM
FantaStick#8008: I just said dram
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: i meant caching for slc
FantaStick#8008: Idk
FantaStick#8008: Industry pricing for flash modules is not something I can obtain very easily
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: 2.5 sounds kinda expensive
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: nah
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: mah
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: thats cheap dram is like what 500 mega atmost
FantaStick#8008: That's how much DRAM costs though
FantaStick#8008: Used to cost over 7.50$ per GB
FantaStick#8008: To put it in perspective |
FantaStick#8008: Samsung uses a full 2GB of dram cache on their 970 Evo plus, so it costs them about 5$ to have that in there, plus extra for added components or higher quality dram and whatnot
FantaStick#8008: So for a drive they MSRP for like 300$, dram seems pretty cheap to add in for me
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: yeah thats pretty cheap
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: maybe because supply?
FantaStick#8008: Dram production is very good right now, and is expected to continue to get cheaper
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: idk about making them but a reason could be that making them in bulk isnt easy?
FantaStick#8008: Dram pricing more or less follows ddr4 pricing
FantaStick#8008: Because they're basically the same chips
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: so its not a supply issue
FantaStick#8008: No
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: if its that cheap why dont all ssds have em
FantaStick#8008: Unless you count ram price fixing
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: crappy controller that cant do caching ????
FantaStick#8008: Yeah controller needs to be able to take advantage of it
FantaStick#8008: Small 1-2$ costs here and there add up |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: what about something like the bx500 its bigger brother the mx500 is identical except slightly faster sequientials and has dram
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: same controller
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: why didnt they add dram tho
FantaStick#8008: Costs savings
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: like why do manufactors do this
FantaStick#8008: You have to segment the market
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: > Costs savings
but thats trivial
FantaStick#8008: It's not trivial
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: in bulk it isnt but
FantaStick#8008: I could be stuck up and only sell dram drives for my higher profit margins on them
FantaStick#8008: But then I lose money to other companies that make cheap 20$ drives that still make good profit
FantaStick#8008: I don't want to lose out on that space
FantaStick#8008: So I cut down what I can and segment my product stack
FantaStick#8008: To get money in all corners of the market |
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: what if they advertise it right
FantaStick#8008: Advertise what
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: dram for consumers
FantaStick#8008: Hey other companies: were undercutting all of you and now the price war starts and we all lose profit margins now?
FantaStick#8008: Product segmentation is necessary in competition
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: hmm i imagined a more piecefull : hey consumer our company is different we offer the dram they offer the scam
FantaStick#8008: Yeah other companies are not going to be cool about that
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: xD
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ~~and it ryhmes too~~
leewake9705#9644: Nice
Bwenfwake#6869: The Phi is alive https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/748175441298456666/IMG_20200826_143757.jpg
Bwenfwake#6869: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/748175468422889527/IMG_20200826_143943.jpg
leewake9705#9644: Nice
Racey#8574: Epic
DarknessFalls229#2286: @MythologicalZ cant get 3way working |
MythologicalZ#3752: Which driver
DarknessFalls229#2286: Tried to enable 1x1 or AFR but it no
DarknessFalls229#2286: 13.1
MythologicalZ#3752: Bad
MythologicalZ#3752: Run 10.3
MythologicalZ#3752: Should scale then for 3 way
MythologicalZ#3752: I've seen 4 way work on 13.9
MythologicalZ#3752: But that was 4870x2 and not single cards
DarknessFalls229#2286: Well my hd 4870x2 + 4870 did okay with 13.1
MythologicalZ#3752: This is for heaven right?
DarknessFalls229#2286: Yeah
DarknessFalls229#2286: Maybe windows 8 is just shitty
MythologicalZ#3752: Oh yeah definitely
MythologicalZ#3752: 7 or bust for all Terascale
DarknessFalls229#2286: Yeah, but i got this os skulltrail themed |
MythologicalZ#3752: Ah
DarknessFalls229#2286: Cba to ddu and reinstall driver
DarknessFalls229#2286: So ill call it a day
Bwenfwake#6869: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695770705878319124/748286326381609031/unknown.png
Bwenfwake#6869: @Foxious
Bwenfwake#6869: Old system that looks new
FantaStick#8008: i mean
FantaStick#8008: case makes it look old
Bwenfwake#6869: X5675 @4.4GHz, 12GB ddr3 1333MHZ OC'd to 1866MHz triple channel as well as an HD 7970
Bwenfwake#6869: Nah it's a fairly new case haha
Bwenfwake#6869: but yes, that image is about a year old
FantaStick#8008: put some vinyl wrap around those edges
FantaStick#8008: it looks cheesy with the tabs exposed for a sliding cover
Bwenfwake#6869: but it doesn't slide on lmao
FantaStick#8008: i know |
FantaStick#8008: but it has it there
Bwenfwake#6869: true true
Gamefreak924#5901: Is it better to have 1GB of PC2-6400S or 2GB of PC2-5300S?
Bwenfwake#6869: 2gb
boog#9487: Made a trailer for dump hauls https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/748354450044878889/20200826_175710.jpg
boog#9487: I tested it with a 50 pound cinderblock around the neighborhood and it stayed together https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/748354567372275732/20200826_181913.jpg
Bwenfwake#6869: This is a very nice idea, great for carrying computers.
Gamefreak924#5901: Is there anyway to fix a laptop battery that's always stuck at 0%?
Gamefreak924#5901: Like it never charges and I get this message at bootup
Gamefreak924#5901: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/748359455531466802/image0.jpg
Gamefreak924#5901: I tried doing some battery reset stuff but got no results
boog#9487: If the battery is that dead it's probably dead
Gamefreak924#5901: Dang
Bwenfwake#6869: buy a new battery
Gamefreak924#5901: I can't even seem to find the exact battery anywhere either |
Bwenfwake#6869: Batteries don't cost much
Gamefreak924#5901: Only off-brand and/or extended batteries
Bwenfwake#6869: what's the laptop?
Gamefreak924#5901: Inspiron Mini 1011
Gamefreak924#5901: It's a 24Wh battery but I can only find extended batteries
Gamefreak924#5901: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/748360045896400936/image0.jpg
Bwenfwake#6869: are you from UK?
boog#9487: There is a way to fix it if it has a little life left but I highly don't recommend it
Gamefreak924#5901: US
Bwenfwake#6869: ah aight
Gamefreak924#5901: Bummer though, I just wanted to have the laptop for quick travel purposes
Bwenfwake#6869: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Battery-for-DELL-Inspiron-Mini-10-10v-1010-1010N-1011-K916P-11z/273169552919
Gamefreak924#5901: Something I wouldn't care about if it got stolen
Bwenfwake#6869: Is this not what you're looking for?
Gamefreak924#5901: Nah, but I may have to just deal with that kind |
Gamefreak924#5901: Mine is smaller and fits flush into the laptop
Bwenfwake#6869: ah fair
Gamefreak924#5901: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/748360688883204126/image0.jpg
BigPierogi#3368: you *could* replace the batteries inside it
BigPierogi#3368: but i dont reccomend it
Gamefreak924#5901: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/748360735989694536/image0.jpg
Bwenfwake#6869: nah don't do that
Gamefreak924#5901: Yeah I once tried to open up a battery, gave up
boog#9487: It's a car but aight https://youtu.be/W-HPiZJya2Y
Gamefreak924#5901: wot
boog#9487: This requires opening the battery and recharging the cells individually if they cells show any life
Gamefreak924#5901: Is that even easy though? Wouldn't I have to buy something anyway to recharge them?
boog#9487: I mean probably but if you've got a bench power supply I think that can charge them while very unsafe it is cheap and easy
Gamefreak924#5901: Bench power supply?
boog#9487: Nevermind you probably don't want to attempt this it's very unsafe |
Gamefreak924#5901: Probs not
boog#9487: Just search around for a battery I'm sure someone sells it
Gamefreak924#5901: I hope so. I guess I'll keep looking
boog#9487: Good luck!
Gamefreak924#5901: Thankssss
Ramiere#1840: Do all those outlet wifi boosters work there same or should i get the xfinity ones? Do they even work?
JustinXenyx#8854: They work, but they're a "seperate" network
JustinXenyx#8854: same internet and everything, but new log-in info for the extended one
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: https://youtu.be/JxczZChFaZI
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: my man steve back at it
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: he did like what 5 , 6???? b550 vids xD
he did low end x570 vs b550 ( one b550 single handedly beat most boards period x570 included)
best b450 vs b550 ( interesting low end b550)
b350 vs b450 vs b550 scaling ( and one b550 manged to fuck up so bad that the b350 tomahawk matched it) |
b550 round up 1 ( sumary 2 or 3 boards disapoin iirc and most boards are fine for a 3950 and some even 3950 oc)
b550***M*** round up (round up2) (some of em are crappy as hell and the best ones are decent but not as good as their bigger non m parts, no surprise m boards have worst vrms than non m boards)
b550 round up 3 ( the moni $$ round up ....ye all of em can handle 3950 oced)
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: steve is worrking hard im considering patreon for my first time of my life xD
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: HES GONNA DO ITX NEXT
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: holly crap man
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: is steve even human
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: damn
JustinXenyx#8854: uh
JustinXenyx#8854: for a single message that's a lot of spamming :Xdxdxd:
JustinXenyx#8854: hell i don't even fucking know what you're trying to say
JustinXenyx#8854: So rambly |
FantaStick#8008: I had a stroke trying to follow that
JustinXenyx#8854: Exactly
FantaStick#8008: *he should've just done one video with the best value board from each segment and a huge b550 vrm temp per dollar graph*
JustinXenyx#8854: I think it's better split like that to be quite honest
JustinXenyx#8854: He can go into more detail with split videos dedicated to certain price brackets
JustinXenyx#8854: He could do that too with a longer video, but it's rare for someone to properly watch longer videos unless they are REALLY interested in hardware
JustinXenyx#8854: Like if i only want the info for budget B550 boards, i can watch the video in regards to budget boards and get the info that will be relevant for my purchasing decision
FantaStick#8008: No I think splitting it up was fine, just memeing
FantaStick#8008: I do want the vrm temp per dollar graph to be a thing though
FantaStick#8008: How much money has this man sent on boards, or does he have such a good connection he gets all this shit for free
JustinXenyx#8854: He is a pretty well-known HW channel, so i don't doubt that he can get hardware for testing easily
JustinXenyx#8854: But thanks to patreon supporters, the written HW unboxed articles + youtube income i'm sure they can easily afford to buy something for testing if they can't get it for free
FantaStick#8008: True
Aihio#2991: Is the i5-4590 still a usable CPU?
Budget#8265: yes |
Muse#0557: Don't buy one though
Muse#0557: Ivy Bridge chips get close enough for half the cost
SuSSudio#2688: LGA 1150 is like a garden platform... You might get bored quick as you can't swap between gens of intel cpus.. Unlike LGA 1155 where you can swap between 2nd/3rd gen core cpus...
SuSSudio#2688: Speaking of CPUs itself, it's more than adequate for general usage... Still games, though not the most recent ones... Newer instructions built in that might last you some more years.
Seek lookback reviews in yt for better coverage on the chip.
Muse#0557: But Dio
Muse#0557: You can swap to Broadwell
Muse#0557: Smh
SuSSudio#2688: :Peter:
SuSSudio#2688: F me
SuSSudio#2688: Welp, was writing off my head anyways.. don't quote me
Muse#0557: It's great value aswell
Muse#0557: Only like 150 for an i5
SuSSudio#2688: That's definitely a bargain |
SuSSudio#2688: _For a non hyperthreaded 6 year old chip_
Budget#8265: 1150 sucks for value
Muse#0557: @Aihio TLDR buy 1155
Muse#0557: Ivy chips are close enough to justify the savings
SuSSudio#2688: ^^^
If anything to miss out it's the AVX2 instruction
SuSSudio#2688: Doubt enough programs takes advantage of it
JustinXenyx#8854: Given that he is probably asking more in the context of gaming no
JustinXenyx#8854: Games have barely been using AVX up until now
DarknessFalls229#2286: found two HP Z210 workstations at 25 euro for both
DarknessFalls229#2286: should i cop?
DarknessFalls229#2286: he wants them out tomorrow, no specs or pics listed
JustinXenyx#8854: Yeah i'd cop
DarknessFalls229#2286: ill see about it, perhaps ask for some pics first
Muse#0557: Z210 is sandy? |
Muse#0557: Idk
DarknessFalls229#2286: yeah sandy
DarknessFalls229#2286: from the spec page CPUs range from quad core ht/non-ht Xeons, from i3's to i7's
DarknessFalls229#2286: ive sent the guy a message
Aihio#2991: There is this PC for sale that has i5-4590s, 8GB ram, GT 1030, 120GB SSD and 500GB HDD all for 150€
DarknessFalls229#2286: Decent, but not that decent
Aihio#2991: The next one is this i7-3820, RAM 16GB, 120Gb + 1Tb, Nvidia GeForce GTX 250 all for 180€
Aihio#2991: And then we have a i5 2400, Gtx 960 4gb, 8gb kingston, 500gb hdd all for 250€
Aihio#2991: The prices that people ask for ancient parts is fucked my dudes
JustinXenyx#8854: i think out of all those PCs the i7 3820 machine is probably the smartest choice to go with
JustinXenyx#8854: Sure it has a shit GPU but you can at least upgrade the CPU a decent bit
JustinXenyx#8854: Unless it is an OEM workstation, then i would not bother at all
Aihio#2991: It actually has a Asus P9X79 and a Corsair something 850watt PSU
DarknessFalls229#2286: thats pretty decent
DarknessFalls229#2286: replace the GPU and you got a somewhat potent gaming machine |
Lumaterian#3557: those boards are still very overpriced on the used market, can sell for enough to get an X570 or Z490
FantaStick#8008: ^
FantaStick#8008: Sell it all on eBay, get yourself on am4
JustinXenyx#8854: I don't think his used market has any major interest in that sort of hardware tbh
JustinXenyx#8854: But i could be wrong on that
Aihio#2991: You are correct
FantaStick#8008: You never know
FantaStick#8008: And some fuckers over here are crazy enough to pay the international shipping
Aihio#2991: They are trying to sell a Pentium dual core with integrated graphics and 4gb ddr3 for 250€
Aihio#2991: Oh wow that P9X79 supports 8 DIMMs
Lumaterian#3557: X79 is 8 DIMM by default
Lumaterian#3557: also P9X79 is a series, not a board
DarknessFalls229#2286: @JustinXenyx _might_'ve scored those two z210's. some dude was first, but hasnt responded yet for pickup
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Evga br or corsair cv 450w?
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Both are same price |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Or skip both and get something better?
JustinXenyx#8854: To be honest, get the one that is cheaper
leewake9705#9644: I would go with either because I have had good experience with both. But yes cheapest is best
mi3night#2562: @JustinXenyx should I get used psus
mi3night#2562: Idk
Muse#0557: Fsp
Muse#0557: Fsp
Muse#0557: Fsp
Muse#0557: Fsp
Muse#0557: Fsp
Muse#0557: Fsp
Muse#0557: Fsp
Muse#0557: This has been tech help
Xbox 360 1953#2640: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j2CVJb thoughts on this?
FantaStick#8008: seems fine to me |
FantaStick#8008: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PQYLrH/diypc-solo-t2-bk-black-usb-30-atx-mid-tower-case-solo-t2-bk
FantaStick#8008: would suggest this case instead for just better airflow and less restrictive internals
FantaStick#8008: but if you want the acryllic window more thats up to you
FantaStick#8008: *normally people dont want to show off their basic budget build*
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Hmm Im just gonna wait for my sister to get all the money shell have and then list make
Muse#0557: Gentoooo
Flannel84#2980: Does anyone have a good guide anywhere on how to convert an old PC into a server? I've never dealt with anything server related and want to start simple by just using an old PC with a couple drives for home use and maybe running a minecraft.
Gamefreak924#5901: Pretty soon I'll have coverage of how well (or bad) an egpu works with a pentium GMA965 laptop
Gamefreak924#5901: I'll be sure to make a video documenting the results.
Lady Mipha#0611: x4500 @Deleted User
Lady Mipha#0611: yes
Gamefreak924#5901: Thanksss
mi3night#2562: @Xbox 360 1953 that ssd idk
Xbox 360 1953#2640: hmm
Xbox 360 1953#2640: my sister wants to spend a bit less so I might see about going used gpu |
Xbox 360 1953#2640: but I can't get shit local so
Xbox 360 1953#2640: Sad!
JustinXenyx#8854: I think if you kept everything but swapped the 1650S out for an RX570 4GB or similar and potentially swapped the R3 3100 for another used Ryzen chip you could save a decent bit of cash
Xbox 360 1953#2640: I'll see about that, thanks
Xbox 360 1953#2640: how much do you think a 574 is? don't really know what would be a deal or not with them
Muse#0557: 70-100
Muse#0557: What is she using the system for
Muse#0557: @Xbox 360 1953
Xbox 360 1953#2640: she wants to do gaming
Xbox 360 1953#2640: like r6s, black ops 3, gta. basically anything she'd play on her xbone
Xbox 360 1953#2640: test
Muse#0557: Youre spending way too much imo
Muse#0557: Or she is
Xbox 360 1953#2640: wym
Muse#0557: You can max all of those games on a 7970 |
Muse#0557: And I5 2400
Muse#0557: Not saying to buy those
Muse#0557: But she is spending way more than she needs to get a good experience
Muse#0557: And by the sounds of it she isn't into computers that much
Xbox 360 1953#2640: she doesn't really know much but wants to learn about stuff
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: @Deleted User https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/748976563252363674/unknown.png
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: its gonna be a ok
the aggresive toilet flusher#1414: ( gtx 460)
Muse#0557: Seems like dropping that much is a waste
Muse#0557: That's just my opinion
Muse#0557: Ask @JustinXenyx idk he might think its worth it to play 2015 xbox games
JustinXenyx#8854: Well given that it's for his sister ideally he'd want to keep as much new as he can without it looking suspect
JustinXenyx#8854: Like he can get a used CPU or GPU
JustinXenyx#8854: but anything else is gonna look a little suspect
JustinXenyx#8854: you don't need to worry about a bottleneck with that system @Deleted User |
Deleted User#0000: I know that the gtx 460 is a bottleneck
JustinXenyx#8854: Which is why i said you don't need to worry about it
JustinXenyx#8854: GPU bottleneck isn't an issue really
JustinXenyx#8854: Having a CPU bottleneck is a MASSIVE issue though
JustinXenyx#8854: if we're talking about a gaming system*
Muse#0557: Gamer system Tm
Deleted User#0000: So what gpu should i get and what fps am i gettin
FantaStick#8008: The term bottleneck gets fairly annoying
Deleted User#0000: With the gtx 460
Muse#0557: 2400 and 1060/570
Muse#0557: Imo
Muse#0557: That's the max I'd pair with sandy
Deleted User#0000: 570 is too expensive i think
Alcyone#2233: I have 1155 and a gtx 560. its not fast in AAA games and its oc to the limit
Deleted User#0000: He means an rx 570 |
Deleted User#0000: Right
Alcyone#2233: 2015ish is about where it tops out at 720p 60fps
FantaStick#8008: Max I'd pair with a 2400 would be a 570/470 or 1050ti
JustinXenyx#8854: @FantaStick Well i think it gets thrown around way too much, but the term obviously has its point. People just misuse it by screaming out "AAAAH BOTTLENECK BOTTLENECK" every time
FantaStick#8008: It gets used for the wrong reasons a lot yeah
FantaStick#8008: Just ask, is my CPU holding back my gpu
FantaStick#8008: Or vice versa
FantaStick#8008: Don't just ask "is it a bottleneck"
FantaStick#8008: Like what, what part of it, which direction are we talking here
Alcyone#2233: you never have too much gpu, just not enough platform
FantaStick#8008: ^
FantaStick#8008: You can never have too much GPU
Muse#0557: "We need a bigger hedt"
Muse#0557: Famous line
FantaStick#8008: But at the same time |
FantaStick#8008: Don't buy something so obviously overpowered for your cpu
Deleted User#0000: Look i am saving at my toes rn
Alcyone#2233: 2080ti and a pentium 4
Deleted User#0000: And i am sacrificeing storage and ram
FantaStick#8008: Get a 7950
FantaStick#8008: Should be mad cheap
Deleted User#0000: I am getting 8gb ram first
Deleted User#0000: 7950??
Muse#0557: They aren't that cheap tbh
JustinXenyx#8854: Fanta he is in egypt as far as i can tell
Muse#0557: Like 50 or 60
Muse#0557: Most of the time
JustinXenyx#8854: He'll be quite fucked with tech prices
Deleted User#0000: Yeah
FantaStick#8008: Right |
FantaStick#8008: *why do so many Egyptians watch Hamish*
Muse#0557: 7790, 7850, 7870
Muse#0557: Fanta
JustinXenyx#8854: I think you'd be best off getting what you can for a reasonable price and then go on from there @Deleted User
Deleted User#0000: Like what
Muse#0557: Don't get it when people hear someone is from not the US, Canada or the UK
Deleted User#0000: I thought about an i5 4570
Muse#0557: And can't believe they have contact with the Internet
Alcyone#2233: If the used market is whack and youre not buying from aliexpress
Deleted User#0000: I am buying from used
Muse#0557: 7770 off Ali express is a good buy
Muse#0557: Budget made a video on it
Alcyone#2233: whatever you can find 4 core 1155 or newer intel
Deleted User#0000: Guys
Muse#0557: Just have to be patient |
Deleted User#0000: I dont have money
Deleted User#0000: I am saving
Muse#0557: It's like 25 bucks
Muse#0557: Which is why I recommended it
Deleted User#0000: I will not buy from AliExpress
Muse#0557: Why
Deleted User#0000: Nah
Deleted User#0000: It isn't that good in egypt
Muse#0557: Wdym good in Egypt
Muse#0557: They ship anywhere with electricity
Deleted User#0000: Look
FantaStick#8008: I think Ali doesn't ship to egypt
Deleted User#0000: I want 60 fps in most games and 30 fps in newer titles
Muse#0557: Most sellers are willing to throw it on any tug boat
Muse#0557: 7770 will do that |
Muse#0557: Try fine one locally or on ebay
JustinXenyx#8854: AliExpress is kinda risky for countries like that because customs might steal the packages and just keep them to themselves
Deleted User#0000: Ebay shipping is soo expensive
Deleted User#0000: It is even more expensive than the cpu it self
FantaStick#8008: I do have a 7950
FantaStick#8008: But shipping probably is more than 25$
Muse#0557: I just said 25
Muse#0557: He hasn't given a budget
Deleted User#0000: I dont have any
FantaStick#8008: Ah
Alcyone#2233: he said he doesnt even have money rn
Deleted User#0000: I am saving
FantaStick#8008: I'm like quickly glancing while at work
Alcyone#2233: it is theoretical tech support
Deleted User#0000: Look |
Deleted User#0000: I was goin to save 110 dollars for the i5 2400 and 16 gb ram
Deleted User#0000: And then i found out that the 3rd gen is around the same price
Alcyone#2233: most the locked cpus are pretty cheap, even lga 1150
Alcyone#2233: finding a non oem board cheap is usually the biggest hurdle, So thats what I would start with
Deleted User#0000: I don't understand sorry
FantaStick#8008: You're in egypt
FantaStick#8008: Play tomb raider IRL
Deleted User#0000: Wtf
JustinXenyx#8854: now that's a little harsh
Deleted User#0000: This isnt how it works dude
FantaStick#8008: It was a joke
Deleted User#0000: If i try i will get jailed
FantaStick#8008: Why would I ever legitimately suggest that
Muse#0557: Man is just a racist
JustinXenyx#8854: I think the best idea if for you to get a solid budget so that you can actually plan out a system with that budget in mind |
Deleted User#0000: The problem is i don't have any income
Muse#0557: What are you using atm
JustinXenyx#8854: You won't get very far just seeing something and trying to save up for that, if you have a solid amount of cash in your hands you can plan out etc etc
Deleted User#0000: Intel xeon 5080
FantaStick#8008: Yes I'm racist for remembering my world history classs
Deleted User#0000: 2x
Gamefreak924#5901: I've shipped plenty of things through ebay. CPUs, a video card, optical drive, a ton of computer parts at once
Gamefreak924#5901: Ask me anything
Muse#0557: 5080 is dual core 771
Muse#0557: Right?
Muse#0557: Idk
Deleted User#0000: Yeah
JustinXenyx#8854: dual core 4 thread
Deleted User#0000: 2x
Deleted User#0000: 2 cpus |
Deleted User#0000: With 16 gb ram
Muse#0557: How did i know this
Deleted User#0000: And a gtx 460
Muse#0557: Honestly upgrade the gpu first
Muse#0557: The xeons are shit
Muse#0557: But like
JustinXenyx#8854: I would reduce the system down to one Xeon
Deleted User#0000: I will upgrade the gpu last
Muse#0557: Why
Alcyone#2233: 1 4c xeon would be better
JustinXenyx#8854: Having 2 CPUs and 2 old as shit 771 server chips is only going to tank your gaming performance massively
Muse#0557: You can get 4c xeons for like 2 bucks
Alcyone#2233: latency my man, old dualies game like shit
Deleted User#0000: Nope bad move there @JustinXenyx
Muse#0557: But shipping might kill |
Deleted User#0000: I tries
Deleted User#0000: Tried
JustinXenyx#8854: So your system won't post with only 1 cpu?
Deleted User#0000: It will
Deleted User#0000: But
Deleted User#0000: Half performance
JustinXenyx#8854: nah that's BS
JustinXenyx#8854: if anything the performance should improve
Deleted User#0000: Nah
Deleted User#0000: I tried
JustinXenyx#8854: Different game plan then
JustinXenyx#8854: You take out both 5080s and replace with a solid quad core chip
Deleted User#0000: The socket is too old
JustinXenyx#8854: well that's what i'm getting at
Alcyone#2233: its the same as a 775 |
JustinXenyx#8854: 771 is super cheap
Deleted User#0000: Guys
Alcyone#2233: so a 4c xeon woill roughly= a c2q
Deleted User#0000: Guys
Alcyone#2233: which can run some games
Deleted User#0000: Guys
Deleted User#0000: Look
JustinXenyx#8854: don't say Guys over and over, say what you want to say in one message
Deleted User#0000: I can save upto 100 to 150 Dollars a year
Alcyone#2233: get money, buy pc. with no money looking at used items is a waste because it will probably be sold by the time you have the ability to purchase it
Deleted User#0000: I know
Deleted User#0000: I am planning
Deleted User#0000: But
Deleted User#0000: In egypt the used market is rich af
Alcyone#2233: so when you have the $150, come ask. Hell a ryzen 1200 might be affordable in a year |
Deleted User#0000: I want a full pc with out the gpu
Deleted User#0000: @Alcyone
Deleted User#0000: @Alcyone
Alcyone#2233: whay are you pinging me repeatedly?
Deleted User#0000: bc u dont answer
Deleted User#0000: i am lost now
mi3night#2562: what happened
Deleted User#0000: ok
Deleted User#0000: soo
Deleted User#0000: i have a trash pc
Deleted User#0000: i am saving for a new one
Deleted User#0000: with a budget around 100:150 $
Deleted User#0000: ok
Deleted User#0000: but
mi3night#2562: $150 for a new pc? |
Deleted User#0000: i will use my gtx 460 in the new build temporarly
Deleted User#0000: until i save up again
Deleted User#0000: so
mi3night#2562: $150 is a bit too low for a pc?
Deleted User#0000: aggressive told me an i5 2400 is good
Deleted User#0000: and budget
Deleted User#0000: but i am scared of the performance
mi3night#2562: whats ur current specs rn
mi3night#2562: in ur trash pc
Deleted User#0000: intel xeon 5080
Deleted User#0000: and 16 gb ram
Deleted User#0000: gtx 460
mi3night#2562: xeon 5080?
Deleted User#0000: all good except the cpu
Deleted User#0000: a 2 core cpu |
Deleted User#0000: but
Deleted User#0000: my mother board has 2 in it
mi3night#2562: is that 771?
Deleted User#0000: yeah
mi3night#2562: how much do u think u can sell ur current pc for
Deleted User#0000: 30 dollars
mi3night#2562: 30?
Deleted User#0000: i want the gpu tho
mi3night#2562: for $150 ur best bet rn is i5 2400 and a h61 mobo
mi3night#2562: where do u live
mi3night#2562: also $30 for ur pc u have rn?
mi3night#2562: what mobo?
mi3night#2562: ohh yeah it's 771
mi3night#2562: no wonder
Deleted User#0000: egypt |
Deleted User#0000: lol
Deleted User#0000: but isnt 2400 to low end
mi3night#2562: ur budget is $150 for mobo ram and cpu?
mi3night#2562: not including the gpu
mi3night#2562: or including the gpu
Deleted User#0000: yeah
Deleted User#0000: not
Deleted User#0000: look
mi3night#2562: it's hard to say
Deleted User#0000: i will buy it used
mi3night#2562: save up to $200
Deleted User#0000: i cant
Deleted User#0000: this is the prob
Deleted User#0000: it is hard to reach the minimum value that i have set
Deleted User#0000: so i cant go over 150$ |
Deleted User#0000: i have no money entry for me
mi3night#2562: i say i5 2400 $20. some h61 board $35 8gb ddr3 $15. rx470/570 $80
mi3night#2562: because u need at least $200 for a decent ryzen pc
Deleted User#0000: look
Deleted User#0000: 16 gb ram
mi3night#2562: especially in ur country
Deleted User#0000: the same with a hard drive and 16 gb ram is around 110$
mi3night#2562: i mean
Deleted User#0000: lets say remove the ram
Deleted User#0000: to 8 temporarly
mi3night#2562: im using england pricing rn
Deleted User#0000: and the hdd i dont need it
Deleted User#0000: no
mi3night#2562: ryzen might be even more in ur country
Deleted User#0000: it is used |
mi3night#2562: i know
mi3night#2562: even used
mi3night#2562: it's still not gonna be as cheap in egypt than england
Deleted User#0000: and i am goin to get a used rx 470
Deleted User#0000: for around another 100:150$
mi3night#2562: jesus
mi3night#2562: oh
mi3night#2562: soooo
mi3night#2562: idk
Deleted User#0000: ???
mi3night#2562: ur budget is kinda unrealistic for a pc better than i5 2400
Deleted User#0000: i think it is less than a hundred dollars
mi3night#2562: i7 2600 is $50 and up
Deleted User#0000: the gpu
Deleted User#0000: look |
Deleted User#0000: my pc is a prebuilt
Deleted User#0000: it is hard to remove the motherboard
Deleted User#0000: and it is hard to replace it
mi3night#2562: i mean
mi3night#2562: $150 is 1155 budget
Deleted User#0000: do u mean the pc is expensive
mi3night#2562: which pc
Deleted User#0000: the 2400
mi3night#2562: 2400 is $20 idk egypt
mi3night#2562: im doing a estimation
Deleted User#0000: 10 dollars are 16 egp
Deleted User#0000: wait
mi3night#2562: oh
Deleted User#0000: 10 dollars are 164 egp
Deleted User#0000: i am dumb sorry |
Deleted User#0000: 158.68 Egyptian Pound
Deleted User#0000: to be exact
mi3night#2562: i5 2400 is $10 usd
Deleted User#0000: so build up on that
Deleted User#0000: no
Deleted User#0000: i am telling u the price of egyptian pound compared to dollars
Deleted User#0000: so u can convert with me
mi3night#2562: so about how much in dollars for a i5 2400
Deleted User#0000: i dont know
Deleted User#0000: the whole pc is for 116.59 dollars
Deleted User#0000: with hard drives and ram 16 gb
mi3night#2562: you found a i5 2400 prebuild?
Deleted User#0000: i dont know
Deleted User#0000: i didnt see it
Deleted User#0000: i asked online |
Deleted User#0000: agressive who said this prices
mi3night#2562: i5 2400 16gb mobo and some hdd for $116?
Deleted User#0000: yeah
mi3night#2562: also
Deleted User#0000: with the case and psu
Deleted User#0000: which might be trash
mi3night#2562: no gpu
Deleted User#0000: yeah
mi3night#2562: sell ur 460 for like $20. use that $60 and find a better gpu
Deleted User#0000: i will use the gtx 460 until i get an rx 470
Deleted User#0000: i am goin to use another pcs psu that i have
Deleted User#0000: 650 watts
Deleted User#0000: or use my 1000 watt psu
Deleted User#0000: but it is big soo
mi3night#2562: i guess |
Deleted User#0000: what
mi3night#2562: get that pc then
mi3night#2562: i mean
Deleted User#0000: is it good
mi3night#2562: can u find a better deal?
Deleted User#0000: i dont know
Deleted User#0000: i am goin to ask aggressive
Deleted User#0000: is the price too high @mi3night
Deleted User#0000: ??
mi3night#2562: im just saying
mi3night#2562: can u get a better deal
Deleted User#0000: i dont know
Deleted User#0000: tell me if it is expensive
mi3night#2562: idk ur prices
mi3night#2562: im just saying |
mi3night#2562: if u can go out and look
mi3night#2562: and find a better deal than that
mi3night#2562: or if not thats decent
Deleted User#0000: i am a ask aggressive he knows alot of shops i will tell him to ask
Deleted User#0000: should i get 16 or 8 gbs of ram for a start
Xbox 360 1953#2640: so my mom is gonna buy the 3100 for my sister so she now only has to get the other stuff which s epic
Flannel84#2980: @Deleted User just jumping in quick on the ram question. You'll find 8gb to be cheaper and enough for most tasks, but the 16gb is future proofing. If you're on a budget, get the 8gb and depending on the number of ram slots you have (if you have four) get the ram in 2 sticks of 4gb so you still have room to upgrade.
TheFifthAce#4128: 8gb is not enough in 2020
Muse#0557: Flannel you're right apart from the future proofing part
Muse#0557: It's the sweet spot
Muse#0557: Ab keep in mind the guy he is responding to doesn't have cash for a 7770 rn
TheFifthAce#4128: hes getting a 3100
TheFifthAce#4128: oh wait misread
TheFifthAce#4128: 8gb still isnt enough for any modern programs
Muse#0557: Also midnight a 2400 is not 10 bucks |
Flannel84#2980: If I recall I saw XIVIX discussing a budget of like 100 or 150 bucks earlier. If he has only that much 8gb is gonna be the best bet so he can afford some other key parts (unless the price has changed).
Flannel84#2980: Plus pairing it with the 460 he wants until he gets an rx 470, 8gb or 16gb won't matter too much as the drivers on the 400 series are a few years out of date now so he wouldn't be running too many of the most recent releases just yet. I think he should get 8gb for now, put the extra towards a new card, and upgrade the ram after the new GPU. But that's just my perspective.
Muse#0557: Last 470 drivers from AMD were 2 weeks ago?
Muse#0557: Games that run on a 470 can easily push the system above 8gb of usage
Flannel84#2980: yes but if he initially goes with the gtx 460, those drivers are over 2 years old and will limit him on their own. I guess what really needs to be considered is his time line and how fast he wants to do certain things.
Flannel84#2980: Has he named specific games he wants to play? Or things he wants to do in general?
mi3night#2562: @Muse I thought he said it’s $10 it’s confusing as hell
mi3night#2562: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/749148950572957736/image0.png
mi3night#2562: He literally said 10 dollars out of nowhere
mi3night#2562: I literally had to assume
mi3night#2562: Also 8gb is the minimum in 2020. 16gb is sweet spot 32gb is for editing/future proof. 64gb is for heavy editing and 3D stuff
Deleted User#0000: So i should get 8gb ram and save for a gpu upgrade and then get another 8 gb
Deleted User#0000: Ok
wiryfuture🦀#1706: > 8gb still isnt enough for any modern programs
@TheFifthAce I am going to assassinate your ram sticks |
TheFifthAce#4128: @wiryfuture🦀 8gb is not enough.
TheFifthAce#4128: windows uses 2-3gb if not more on its own
TheFifthAce#4128: add a browser and discord and you're down another 2-3gb and havent launched anything yet
wiryfuture🦀#1706: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/749252070523273236/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: ???
vegetal#8870: im at 4gb with windows, discord and 13 firefox tabs
TheFifthAce#4128: :doge2:
TheFifthAce#4128: thats what I said
FantaStick#8008: @TheFifthAce I expected better from you
TheFifthAce#4128: 2 + 2 does equal 4 @vegetal
FantaStick#8008: 8gbs is still enough for most games and a few programs open in the background
TheFifthAce#4128: @wiryfuture🦀 and overall usage
FantaStick#8008: Fite me
TheFifthAce#4128: @FantaStick 8gb is not enough
TheFifthAce#4128: 16gb is the bare minimum for any modern work |
FantaStick#8008: Let me clarify
TheFifthAce#4128: most new games are using 5gb or more of ram
FantaStick#8008: 2x4gb is minimum
TheFifthAce#4128: minimum for a computer to game on
TheFifthAce#4128: but I said minimum for 2020 gaming
FantaStick#8008: Oh for 2020 gaming
TheFifthAce#4128: if yourr running older titles sure
TheFifthAce#4128: but modern games use 5-10gb ram
FantaStick#8008: Then yeah 16gb i guess
wiryfuture🦀#1706: wdym by "2020 gaming"
TheFifthAce#4128: ???
TheFifthAce#4128: what the fuck else could it mean
FantaStick#8008: AAA titles made in 2020
TheFifthAce#4128: 2020 games
FantaStick#8008: Not esports titles |
wiryfuture🦀#1706: like, flight sim? :crome:
FantaStick#8008: And not most indie titles
TheFifthAce#4128: yeah duh
FantaStick#8008: Flight sim is wack
TheFifthAce#4128: but full length modern aaa games need 16gb
FantaStick#8008: Yes
FantaStick#8008: *I blame lazy programmers*
wiryfuture🦀#1706: yes
wiryfuture🦀#1706: if it can't run on 512mb, you're doing something wrong :haha:
JustinXenyx#8854: He means modern AAA games commonly played in 2020 most likely @wiryfuture🦀
JustinXenyx#8854: That would also include games released in 2020
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I suppose it depends on what you want to "play" :haha:
wiryfuture🦀#1706: *laughs in 720p low*
Deleted User#0000: so get 12
FantaStick#8008: 12 is never worth it |
Flannel84#2980: @Deleted User To make things a little easier on everyone. Could you re-list the following things?
1. What is the total actual budget?
2. What do you want to with the system? Any specific applications/games?
3. What upgrades are you looking to do in the future (like going from gtx 460 to rx 470)?
Having these items listed in one message can help sort out what makes the most *sense* not what is exactly the best for today's standards because if the budget is small, somethings might not make sense to get right away.
Deleted User#0000: 1. between 100 to 150 $ (i dont have this money yet)
2.i want to be able to edit sometimes not alot but my priority is games like (gta online-fortnite-valorant-csgo-minecraft-rust-garrysmod) and i am planning on getting other games like (rainbowsixseige and maybe rdr2)
Deleted User#0000: 3.yeah i want to get an ssd and an rx 470
Deleted User#0000: @Flannel84
Flannel84#2980: Perfect, now if anyone asks refer them to this.
Yannikau#9606: Anyone here that knows a bit about Intel server motherboards? I recently got my hands on a Intel S1200BTL with a Xeon E3 1220. It was from a friend, he used it as his home server (which I want to do aswell)
Now the weird thing
As soon as I shut it down I actually have to reset the bios for it to boot again |
Yannikau#9606: I have no idea what causes this
Flannel84#2980: something corrupted?
Yannikau#9606: Idk, it boots every time I reset the Bios... That's the weird thing...
Alcyone#2233: chassis intrusion header, or maybe a dead cmos battery?
Flannel84#2980: dead cmos seems possible, and easy to test with a replacement
Yannikau#9606: The battery was pretty much dead, but after replacing it it still didn't work (it's possible that this one is dead aswell tho)
D.D.M#8226: Maybe try updating the bios that could fix it?
Gamefreak924#5901: Update on the Inspiron 1525 egpu. I'm able to get it hooked up and it shows up on the PC (drivers installed and all that), but I have yet to get it working completely. I'm still going to be trying for success
PanasonicBlueray#8325: Hey guys. So my mum's pc gave us the blue screen of death yesterday, after all of that it just takes us to the "repairing system" screen, and then yo the advanced boot settings. I've tried getting into safe mode both by the menu and command line, but everytime it just shows the same "repairing system" screen.
I just want to take some info out, any idea on how?
I can't just take the storage out because its eMMc memory, my best guess it's that it's been degrading and this was the final blow
D.D.M#8226: From what year is the laptop?
D.D.M#8226: And can you get into the bios?
D.D.M#8226: @PanasonicBlueray
PanasonicBlueray#8325: > And can you get into the bios? |
@D.D.M
2017.
I think I'm able to get into the bios
D.D.M#8226: The emmc should be still alive if it isnt that old
PanasonicBlueray#8325: I thought so, but the past weeks leading up to this the pc was abnormally slow and some folders became corrupted, so I'd think it was the storage
D.D.M#8226: If you know how to make a bootable usb stick with hirens boot cd try that and try accessing your files
D.D.M#8226: If no i will give you instructions
PanasonicBlueray#8325: I guess it's the same as making a Linux one (?)
D.D.M#8226: With rufus
D.D.M#8226: Atleast thats what i use
D.D.M#8226: Wait are there files on the desktop?
D.D.M#8226: Or user folders
PanasonicBlueray#8325: Yeah, I checked them with some hprecovery tool and they appeared empty
PanasonicBlueray#8325: So uh, not the best situation
D.D.M#8226: Well its better if you get a live cd of a linux distro as hbcd will have permission issues with user folders |
D.D.M#8226: Download a lubuntu install iso as its the smallest
PanasonicBlueray#8325: I have an ubuntu bootable usb around, though about just using the demo version from the usb, but it didn't worked well in the last pc I tried to recover stuff with that
PanasonicBlueray#8325: Guess it's worth the try
D.D.M#8226: @PanasonicBlueray did you recover anything?
Ramiere#1840: A friend of mine is just getting into pc gaming is there a gpu that performs better than the 750 but around the same price?
Ramiere#1840: I wanted to get a 750 but in 2020 it’s useless unless you play at the lowest resolution
DarknessFalls229#2286: R9 280(x) is pretty good
DarknessFalls229#2286: Or 7970 which is the same
Muse#0557: 280/X is not the same price as a 750
Muse#0557: You'd be looking at a 7870
Muse#0557: Which is close to a 1050
Bwenfwake#6869: I have a 7970 to sell
Bwenfwake#6869: £40?
D.D.M#8226: A 1050 would be better as those gpus are plagued with issues at this age
D.D.M#8226: And they consume less power |
DarknessFalls229#2286: Around where im at 750s are expensive and 7970s are somewhat cheap
Muse#0557: Are you in the UK
Muse#0557: @Bwenfwake
Bwenfwake#6869: yes
Bwenfwake#6869: I am
Muse#0557: Ya boy might be interested
Bwenfwake#6869: I also have a low profile 750 ti I'm looking to get rid of
Bwenfwake#6869: as well as an hd 6950
Muse#0557: What 7970 is it
Bwenfwake#6869: lemme find a pic
Bwenfwake#6869: HD 7970 VTX 3GB in red
Bwenfwake#6869: https://a0.amlimg.com/ZDExYmU5Nzk4ZTAxMGM1Njk2NzQxNDA0NTYxMWIyNDF11502hDEdKAftIBtiDdd5aHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmFkc2ltZy5jb20vYzUyZTMzNzE2MmI4MjM5YmE5NjgwZDQ0MjljZTNhZTcwYTBiYjllZWM5MGY0YmI5MDJlOWQ1YzRmZTk4Y2NkMC5qcGd8fHx8fHw3MDB4MzMzfGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYWR2ZXJ0cy5pZS9zdGF0aWMvaS93YXRlcm1hcmsucG5nfHx8.jpg
Muse#0557: That's funky
Muse#0557: Never seen that cooler before
Bwenfwake#6869: pretty sure it's the x-edition variant I have |
Bwenfwake#6869: however i bought it without stickers
Muse#0557: So probably a good bin?
Bwenfwake#6869: aye, probs
Bwenfwake#6869: I've reflashed BIOS for a higher clock
Muse#0557: What does the side and power delivery look like
Bwenfwake#6869: I wonder if i have pics in person
Muse#0557: Just curious about connectors
Bwenfwake#6869: it's got a 6 and 8 pin on it
Bwenfwake#6869: at the side of the card tho, not at the back
Muse#0557: I'm interested just gotta wait for the ebay money to come in
Bwenfwake#6869: ah fair
Bwenfwake#6869: I'll find a pic of it in a rig for ya
Muse#0557: Ty
Bwenfwake#6869: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695770705878319124/748286326381609031/unknown.png
Bwenfwake#6869: Aight it's in here |
Muse#0557: Looks nifty
Bwenfwake#6869: It's the second card in here https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/749745724052209824/IMG_20200715_233701.jpg
Muse#0557: Probably will just vinyl wrap it black
Muse#0557: Then it'll look like the current xfx cards
Bwenfwake#6869: ya might as well buy my 6950 then haha
Bwenfwake#6869: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/749746743066755142/IMG_20200515_163406.jpg
Muse#0557: Terajail tho
Bwenfwake#6869: ah true
Bwenfwake#6869: but I'd rather not see my card vinyl wrapped :haha:
Bwenfwake#6869: it has been faithful to me and I have even fixed its sagging
Muse#0557: I will rock it red then
Muse#0557: For you
Muse#0557: You snowflake
Muse#0557: 😘
Bwenfwake#6869: cheers babes 😉 |
Bwenfwake#6869: ❤️
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Hay. You could turn around that rad and get better performance. Tube down, rad on top.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/749764536344772648/LL.png
FantaStick#8008: its not even a performance thing, its just an acoustics thing the way he has it mounted
FantaStick#8008: it *is* higher than the pump which is the important part
uoʇsodɾ#2412: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbGomv195sk I've always suspected as much but was never willing to confirm the issue. It can range from not optimal with no performance loss to bad. If it gurgles then the pump has air in it.
tagen_#2234: Hey guys, so i was recently given an acer chromebook 11... What should I do with it? I've never used chrome OS before and it seems pretty horrible. Would windows xp run better on this thing?
D.D.M#8226: Well i guarantee you that you wont find drivers for them
D.D.M#8226: Maybe win 7
Aihio#2991: What voltage should I set on my 3200G when trying to get it to 4.2GHz?
Aihio#2991: Or should I just leave it at auto?
JustinXenyx#8854: Don't leave them on auto, FATAL mistake @Aihio
Aihio#2991: That's why I'm asking
JustinXenyx#8854: Ideally i'd keep the voltages under 1.35V-ish all core
MythologicalZ#3752: 3200g is 12nm so you have up until 1.375v-1.38v under 75c |
Aihio#2991: So do I only change the VDDCR Voltage setting to 1.35 at first?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: > Well i guarantee you that you wont find drivers for them
@D.D.M Well, if you are really into it, then you could check the Hardware IDs in Device Manager and look them up on Google. Basic things should be covered, like Intel ME, graphic drivers, IO drivers, etc...by Windows 10 built in drivers/downloaded from Windows Update.
D.D.M#8226: But the thing is will they even work properly
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: You never know until you try
wiryfuture🦀#1706: Lads, I'm confused, I'm only getting 8GB of ram of my 16GB, there's 8GB hardware reserved, I tried a bios reset and it's still like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/749986789254496285/unknown.png
wiryfuture🦀#1706: after taking out CMOS, I'm not getting any display out
wiryfuture🦀#1706: what am I meant to do lmao
wiryfuture🦀#1706: oooh
wiryfuture🦀#1706: reseated the ram for the 3rd time and got a boot
wiryfuture🦀#1706: probably dust or something
wiryfuture🦀#1706: and I've got my 16GB back, yay
wiryfuture🦀#1706: even got my honourary cut on my hand somewhere
wiryfuture🦀#1706: from a heatsink
Deleted User#0000: ~~I was gonna suggest reseating it but I assumed that you'd already tried that~~ |
TheFifthAce#4128: > Hey guys, so i was recently given an acer chromebook 11... What should I do with it? I've never used chrome OS before and it seems pretty horrible. Would windows xp run better on this thing?
@tagen_ sell it and get a sandy bridge windows laptop
TheFifthAce#4128: :woag:
mi3night#2562: Dell latitude :frobotmoment:
Deleted User#0000: Thinkpad
mi3night#2562: no :orange:
SuSSudio#2688: yes
mi3night#2562: latitude superior engineering
D.D.M#8226: Hey guys so i was looking through my NAS system and it appears to be using 100mbs
D.D.M#8226: The nas supports gigabit ethernet and so does the router
D.D.M#8226: Any ideas?
D.D.M#8226: This also appears on the bottom
D.D.M#8226: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/750043999523307560/20200831_192637.jpg
D.D.M#8226: And another problem is that it sometimes disappears when i try to connect to it from a wireless network, and works fine when i use another pc connected with ethernet to the router
Gamefreak924#5901: Can someone help me to find the best price/spec CPU for Socket P? 800MHz, 35W. I see the best one is a T9500 but it's really expensive, and I'm trying to find something that will give a little more push when doing tasks like some light gaming (ex. Minecraft low settings) |
mi3night#2562: @"Cobs" help this guy with a nas problem
"Cobs"#1150: huh
"Cobs"#1150: > Hey guys so i was looking through my NAS system and it appears to be using 100mbs
@D.D.M Check your ethernet cable, make sure it's CAT5E or CAT6+ otherwise you'll be stuck with 100mbps. Check that the NAS is gigabit and that the router has gigabit on all ports. Don't muck with the MTU unless you're experiencing dropouts.
mi3night#2562: Thanks professor
Racey#8574: > Can someone help me to find the best price/spec CPU for Socket P? 800MHz, 35W. I see the best one is a T9500 but it's really expensive, and I'm trying to find something that will give a little more push when doing tasks like some light gaming (ex. Minecraft low settings)
@Gamefreak924 I'd think you're good buying a T7000 series Core2 chip
Gamefreak924#5901: Alrighty, thank you!
Flannel84#2980: Just a hypothetical question, what would cool better? A stock intel cooler or the cheap one I've mentioned prior (three heat pipes, low profile design from china). I'm wondering if the heat pipes will truly help it out, or would a stock intel cooler just do better based on the amount of mass it has to absorb the heat.
Dogecode#7321: I wouldn't think heat pipes would do anything if there's not much to carry the heat to, the whole idea is they let you use a larger heatsink (or in the case of laptops reposition the heatsink) without losing efficiency because the heat can't get to it
Dogecode#7321: You'd have to benchmark it to know for sure though
Flannel84#2980: this is the best view of the cooling portion https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/750197312239698011/s-l1600.png
Dogecode#7321: I'd guess that would outperform the intel heatsink (there's not much to the stock intel one really) but like I said if you want to know for sure you'll have to benchmark it
Flannel84#2980: I'll probably end up bench marking it against a stock on and a Hyper T2 one day when I get back to doing Youtube. I mean, for under 9 dollars if it does well who could say no?
Dogecode#7321: I was thinking you were meaning something like this where you've got the heatpipes going to basically a laptop heatsink https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/750198695420624943/iu.png |
Flannel84#2980: It's similar, but I think this one is more of a rip off of the thermaltake slim x3 or one of those low profile models
Dogecode#7321: but yeah for $9 any heatsink is good
Dogecode#7321: it looks way better than that cheap one ltt tested
Flannel84#2980: I actually had one of those cheap ones they tested, but they are only rated for 65 watts
Dogecode#7321: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk6JMSrqiQo video for reference
Flannel84#2980: I just watched that one an hour ago lol
D.D.M#8226: @"Cobs" the nas does support gigabit ethernet, my cable is a cat5e, the router supports gigabit and its getting its internet connection from another router that supports gigabit ethernet and both routers are connected with a 40 meter cat5e cable
D.D.M#8226: And i have a pc connected to the router and it says its gigabit
wiryfuture🦀#1706: > Hey guys so i was looking through my NAS system and it appears to be using 100mbs
@D.D.M wdym by appears to be using 100mbps
D.D.M#8226: It says
wiryfuture🦀#1706: as in, is that he bandwidth you see being used?
D.D.M#8226: Yes
wiryfuture🦀#1706: you could try running Iperf to check the link speed between your computer and the NAS
wiryfuture🦀#1706: I remember seeing a java client for windows that made it easy to run iperf |
Jackloco#9187: hey odd question, anyone know how to get the shitiest webcam or make a webcam worse with software?
Budget#8265: Just capture it at a low resolution and scale it up @Jackloco
Jackloco#9187: hmmm, i suppose so . i want to keep it authentically bad. compression, low frame rate, you know the works
Jackloco#9187: think back to unregistered fraps footage from 2007 with the drop and play youtube songs
Muse#0557: You can render it with dreadful bit rate
Muse#0557: Run it through handbrake or something and blitz it
Jackloco#9187: i'm trying to get it with a meme in online, we're trying do a bit for a scene we have
Jackloco#9187: u think i could hard change it in windows to reduce the incoming>
Jackloco#9187: ?
Jackloco#9187: it's super dumb but thanks for the suggestions, might just do an overlay and rerecord what i said using this
Al Juboori A#6408: can smeone help me draft out a pc build for my nephew with a budget of 1000 euros ? including the monitor. he plays fortnite and there games of that caliber.
Flannel84#2980: For any American's that's $1,191.55 USD.
D.D.M#8226: Uhh i think a ryzen 5 3600, 16gb ddr4 ram, gtx 1660 super, 256gb ssd 1tb hdd
D.D.M#8226: I have a friend that has a pc with similar specs and fortnite runs on epic no problem
D.D.M#8226: If you still have money you could get an rtx 2060 |
Flannel84#2980: You could probably spring for 32gb of ddr4 honestly, it's not too expensive. Motherboard wise as well just get something middle of the road, no need for anything overly fancy.
Elecks#1913: To be fair he can get my set up for half the money, and still do fine in most games, cyberpunk is going to be a tough one i think tho..
Elecks#1913: Newer is not always better, especially if you are considering playing one specific game. I mean more power is obviously more future proof, but he could spent half the money for something still great! I play all my games in 2048 x 1440 and have no issues at all. Sadly my monitor is weird as it only support 4K on specific HDMI 2.0 slot, and games look a bit weird to me when I'm playing in 3840 x 2160, but i am too lazy to switch the cables as i use it for my PS4.. looks weird > still good FPS though.
FantaStick#8008: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGXh4n
FantaStick#8008: save roughly 200$ for yourself, dont buy any rtx right now cause prices are dropping big time used
Flannel84#2980: How old is the nephew? It might be wise to future proof with better parts if he'll get into more.
FantaStick#8008: take that extra 200, sell your 1660super later on for like 150, get another 100$, and youll be able to grab a 3070 and your nephew will be set for years
FantaStick#8008: went with b550 for the pcie4 support jsut in case
JustinXenyx#8854: Any card will be piss cheap in the next month or so
Gamefreak924#5901: Does SSE4.1 have any noticeable difference over SSE3/SSSE3 in a CPU?
Gamefreak924#5901: Trying to pick the best option for a Socket P CPU. One has SSE4.1 but it's a bit more expensive
Alcyone#2233: if amd is competitive with nvidia in the $400-500 price range. every previous high end card is obsolete
Alcyone#2233: will we see $50 x80 polaris when the new $200 gpus come out? I hope so
FantaStick#8008: i hope they can compete at the price range
FantaStick#8008: hope we dont get another radeon vii situation |
JustinXenyx#8854: It'll have a neat effect on the budget market though
JustinXenyx#8854: 1070s will be sub-100 USD even lmao
FantaStick#8008: i should uhh
FantaStick#8008: hurry up and get rid of these 1080tis lol
Alcyone#2233: Im hoping it will be a big shakeup for the 1080p 60hz budget gamers
Alcyone#2233: instead of just saying: get used x70 polaris for best price/perf there will be other good used ~$80-100 options
FantaStick#8008: i think with this youll see 1440p 60hz budget gamers
FantaStick#8008: or 1080p 144hz budget gamers
FantaStick#8008: either or
JustinXenyx#8854: Oh yeah no budget gaming at 1080p just took a GIANT leap forwards
JoshTheTechie#2808: Would anyone be able to help me with this? I’m installing a new install of windows 10 and keep getting different oobe errors. I’ve tried start up repair and I’ve searched it online but noting seems to be working. Even tried to do the install again and get the same problem. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/750737632262357022/image0.jpg
JustinXenyx#8854: I smell corrupt windows installation @JoshTheTechie
JustinXenyx#8854: and potentially corrupt ISO
JoshTheTechie#2808: Yeah was thinking the same
JustinXenyx#8854: OOBE iirc is referring to the start-up shit |
JustinXenyx#8854: out of the box experience or something
JoshTheTechie#2808: Yeah it gives me OOBELOCAL OOBEKEYBOARD and some OOBE network one
JoshTheTechie#2808: I’ll create a new iso image and clear this drive and try again
JoshTheTechie#2808: Thanks @JustinXenyx
DarknessFalls229#2286: Just got this today for 30 euro, how do you like that @"Cobs" 20x 1TB drives https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/750740514617426050/20200902_170317.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/750740515238051940/20200902_170325.jpg,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/545181464363401216/750740516089364520/20200902_170400.jpg
"Cobs"#1150: 20TB?
"Cobs"#1150: Not bad
"Cobs"#1150: But not quite carling, I’ve got 30TB + 3.5TB SSD :p
D.D.M#8226: :bosnianangry:
DarknessFalls229#2286: 30 TB for 30 euro?
DarknessFalls229#2286: @"Cobs"
"Cobs"#1150: okay now thats a steal
"Cobs"#1150: mine cost a lot more than that
Racey#8574: 20 TB
Racey#8574: Christ I can't even use a terabyte |
DarknessFalls229#2286: 15TB in one computer, 5tb in another
DarknessFalls229#2286: The two smaller pcs arent that interesting
DarknessFalls229#2286: But one of the big ones has a p5 board with a qx9650 CPU
DarknessFalls229#2286: So im gonna OC that
DarknessFalls229#2286: @"Cobs" servers are fookin heavy
DarknessFalls229#2286: And this is just 15 drives bruh
"Cobs"#1150: Yeah try holding a server with 24 bays 🙂
wiryfuture🦀#1706: how the fuck did you get so much storage for so cheap
Flannel84#2980: Hell ya, just got some ddr2 ram for my project for cheaper cause I told the seller there ad was mislabeled. Didn't even ask, but got it discounted after they fixed it.
DarknessFalls229#2286: @wiryfuture🦀 listed as 4 pcs for parts
DarknessFalls229#2286: And each pc has at least one issue
DarknessFalls229#2286: One PSU dead, two motherboards dead and a couple of dead fans
DarknessFalls229#2286: But that still leave a LOT of working parts
DarknessFalls229#2286: The 850 Watt PSU is the only one thats really a shame
Budget#8265: @JoshTheTechie Corrupted Install USB would be my guess mate |
Budget#8265: 👍
JoshTheTechie#2808: thanks @Budget
dexsters56#4904: Would a X5690 werf putting into a Rampage ii Extreme?
dexsters56#4904: Found a deal for the X5690 for 15€ and wanna know if its werf it
Lumaterian#3557: that's a good deal if the chip works
Lumaterian#3557: but I'd then immediately flip the cpu and board
Lumaterian#3557: X58 is inflated af
JustinXenyx#8854: If you're talking about using that combo as your main rig, no @dexsters56
JustinXenyx#8854: X58 is pretty dated and you will run into issues running more and more modern programs and games
Caleb - XPuser#7247: Does anybody know how I can make a bootable USB to install Windows XP Professional x64?
🌈 msx dot gay 🌈#9665: Rufus
Caleb - XPuser#7247: Rufus doesn't wanna work with XP X64.
🌈 msx dot gay 🌈#9665: Oh
Caleb - XPuser#7247: WinToFlash doesn't either.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: Win32DiskImager doesn't format the drive right. |
Caleb - XPuser#7247: PowerISO copies files and formats it correctly but it's not bootable.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: ISO to USB doesn't work either.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: I've tried multiple ISOs, including one I made from my own XP x64 CD.
🌈 msx dot gay 🌈#9665: Not sure what to say then
🌈 msx dot gay 🌈#9665: Rufus is the only tool for Windows I know of
Caleb - XPuser#7247: Yeah I've always used Rufus, it works fine for XP 32 bit.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: Just found a guide for easy2boot for xp x64, gonna try that quickly.
vegetal#8870: why would you want to install xp x64 in the first placee
Caleb - XPuser#7247: To use all 6GB of my ram.
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: How about running CMD commands?
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: There are guides to throw ISOs onto USBs with CMD commands
uoʇsodɾ#2412: XP 32 bit is really a 34 bit aware OS. There is software to use RAM that is not normally addressable. It can set up part of the RAM as a drive in windows. You then set the PF to said virtual drive. Any hard faults that are made to the virtual drive are not so hard any more and are almost as fast as a soft fault.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: Unless you must run a program that only works with XP 64 bit then your better off dull booting XP 32 bit and win 7/8.1.
uoʇsodɾ#2412: I have done this with 8GB of RAM before if anybody is wondering.
Caleb - XPuser#7247: I've already got it installed, performance is much better than in XP 32 bit. |
Caleb - XPuser#7247: It's fun to look at task manager and see all of the resource meter line thingys at the bottom of the graph.
Un karr#9168: guys, can someone recommend a good os that runs well on a dell latitude 2100 notebook? (specs: atom n470 with 1.5gb ram which is max)
Dogecode#7321: Windows XP
Dogecode#7321: Or for something modern go with a linux distro like lubuntu, it’ll run way better than Windows 10 would on that
Artucuno#1898: Hey can someone help me find what model this server is? I have recently bought it (It hasn't arrived) but the images are not the same as any of the pictures that I have found. Thanks! https://www.ebay.com/itm/Acer-R520-1U-Rack-Mount-Server-2-x-Xeon-E5430-2-66Ghz-Quad-Core-16GB-RAM-160GB/353174062072
DarknessFalls229#2286: i summon @"Cobs" the server guy
Artucuno#1898: lol
Artucuno#1898: I gtg to bed, thanks for summoning him lol. I'll check discord tomorrow 😄
DarknessFalls229#2286: alright, gn
Charlie Foxtrot#9831: > guys, can someone recommend a good os that runs well on a dell latitude 2100 notebook? (specs: atom n470 with 1.5gb ram which is max)
@Un karr Puppy Linux?
leewake9705#9644: @Charlie Foxtrot I would try Linux mint 20 XCFE
leewake9705#9644: *XFCE
DarknessFalls229#2286: @"Cobs" so three drives on the 15 drive machine are dead. So that means that the RAID 5 Array is completely dead too right?
"Cobs"#1150: > Hey can someone help me find what model this server is? I have recently bought it (It hasn't arrived) but the images are not the same as any of the pictures that I have found. Thanks! https://www.ebay.com/itm/Acer-R520-1U-Rack-Mount-Server-2-x-Xeon-E5430-2-66Ghz-Quad-Core-16GB-RAM-160GB/353174062072 |
@Artucuno nah thats correct, yours is just missing the bezel which is how most servers get sold on ebay
DarknessFalls229#2286: @"Cobs" psst, is my raid array dead im the water?
"Cobs"#1150: Yup
"Cobs"#1150: RAID 5 gives you one drive redundancy if you have no hotspare
"Cobs"#1150: Are you sure they're dead dead?
DarknessFalls229#2286: 2 are making clicking noises
DarknessFalls229#2286: I tried swapping to other bays
"Cobs"#1150: clicking can also be a sign of not enough power
"Cobs"#1150: try powering with one drive at a time in
DarknessFalls229#2286: But its not like i needed the info on the array
DarknessFalls229#2286: Im going to connect them on my testbench in a bit
"Cobs"#1150: aye yeah
"Cobs"#1150: give that a go one time at a time
"Cobs"#1150: if they identify in bios, run crystal disk on em
DarknessFalls229#2286: Ill see |
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