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or where they don't want to be controlled for instance, free college. well i would lead and say
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i think it's great. you obviously want to better yourself and you can't afford it right now. you see that that's a way you could afford it. and you could get, you could go further in life and do better things with your life.
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i think that's great. then you get into, but here's why it wouldn't work.
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okay. and then you're able to tell them what the downsides are.
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right. just like the last hour, lead with the positive. and you're not hiding the negative. you're being honest and upfront about it.
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but you want to take into account that they think you want to control their lives. that's why you have to first open the door before you go in the house.
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and that doorway is a doorway of above the mantle says, you want to control me, stay out. so you have to show, i don't want to control you. let me in.
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and you do that by listening. you do that by finding that piece that they are embracing that says i don't want to be controlled in whatever liberal policy it is.
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you can even do it by challenging them. hey, i don't want to, i want to control my own life. not yours. can you say the same?
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i love doing that with young people. i want to control my own life. not yours. can you say the same? oh sure. i can. okay, good. why don't we apply that together to any issue we talk about
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we're... this is chris cook and i've got andy [inaudible] in the party of choice in studio with me. we're talking about millennials. how do we message to millennials?
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remember you can always share your thoughts with me on facebook. and we're probably not going to take any calls during this hour, but you can always get to me with facebook. facebook.com/grassroots radio, colorado.
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this is grassroots radio, colorado on klz 560.
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i do know you run after chocolate, so-
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great. and then just... she's gotten me into mall.
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she just drags it behind her. it's dirty. i don't care. i'm like-
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it's chocolate this is good. so before we go on the party of choice,
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where can folks find you, find out more about the party of choice, how to learn more about these messaging points,
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because this is not the only thing you talk about millennials. you talk about how to have these conversations with lots of different people on lots of different issues. yeah.
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we are at thepartyofchoice.com. that's the party of... www.thepartyofchoice.com. and we're also on facebook, twitter...
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by the way, if you have any questions, if you want to know how to approach a subject, you got somebody who you're really not sure how to approach a certain issue with...
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shoot us an email. shoot us a question on facebook. we love it. and we also have other people who are part of our team who will take that...
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oh yeah, it won't just be me. you don't want to be limited to my mind. trust me.
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all right. so we're talking about millennials. let's talk about the free college tuition plans.
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about a week ago, obama announced this proposal to make community college free for everyone...
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as long as you're enrolled half time...
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and to some people that sounds like a great idea.
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to me, it sounds like a parasitic idea. and the first thing that comes to my mind is...
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if our k through 12 system is so broken, how about we fix that instead of remediating it by giving two more years of schooling away?
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chris, that's crazy talk. don't you understand? remember, i'm a child of the left. i was raised by the left. if something isn't working, do more of it.
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if eating fattening foods is not helping your diet...
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double it. eat more fattening food. and by the way, everybody out there, yes, you can take that advice. trust me, it works. it's fantastic. don't don't take that advice.
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we won't talk about cuba because i still think that there is a saying that success is sort of like wrestling a gorilla.
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you don't stop when you get tired, you stop when the gorilla gets tired.
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so, there is a good thing about persistence and following through with something, but...
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but...free is not going to do us what we need...
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here in this country.okay. yeah. and the first thing, once again, i probably wouldn't lead by telling them, "you're a parasite."
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and in all my talking points, just weave in, "by the way, you're a parasite. now, parasite, can i call you parasite?"
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"i just want you to know you're not really a parasite, you're an aspiring parasite because you're very young. but you're learning."
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"you're a larva. okay, larva." okay, here's what i would tell them...
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okay. because they say, "yeah, i love free college." and i lead in by saying, "well, i think it's great that you want college. you want to go forward. but let me ask you something..."
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"i want you to know, with free college, i would never do that to you."
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and they probably cock their head and look at you like a dog whistle just went off.
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exactly. and then i look at them and say, "look, let me ask you this." and you be the high schooler, chris.
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okay.okay. oh my god.like totally. oh my god.
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oh my gosh. okay, chris, i just lost chris. okay.
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yeah. they're afraid. they're backing up for... let me ask you this. why do you get a high school degree or a ged? why do you get that?
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because you want to prove that you have enough perseverance to actually make it through school.
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until you get your high school degree, your diploma, you can't go off to college, get a good job, or maybe go in the military, any of these things. you can't move on from there.
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right.okay. what we've done is, you get a high school degree or a ged because that's the starting line in life.
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it's the lowest common denominator, it's the minimum requirements.
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right. and when i talk about this with young people, they get that immediately.right.i say, "why do you get a high school degree?" i say, "isn't it because you're trying to get to the starting line in life?"
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"that's just the starting line. that's the minimum that you have to have. if you don't have that, you're at a tremendous disadvantage. right?" and they go, "yeah, yeah, sure." i say, "okay."
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why is that the starting line? why isn't it a master's degree the starting line?
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or sixth grade, only sixth grade the starting line? why is the starting line happened to be...
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high school? why do you have to have that degree to have a chance just to get started in life?
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and they look at me like, "i don't know." and i tell them, "it's very simple. because it's free."
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see everything that's free, everybody has, or can have.
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all right. and so whatever you make free, that is going to set where the starting line is in life.
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okay. we've made it free through grade 12, which means that that is where you start and can leap forward in life.
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now here's the question. what happens if we give you two more years of free college?
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well, before we go there, this is grassroots radio colorado on klz 560. this is kris cook. i've got andy pate...
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of the party of choice. i'm going to get corey's name in there somehow no matter what.
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here's my point, is the left's argument is that the starting line is no longer a high school diploma. the starting line is at least two years of college.
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something that's so preposterous, that it's ridiculous. how about this as a comeback? let me ask you this, kris, krissy.
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...teenager. why do you get a college degree? why would you go get a college degree?
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right. you want an advantage. so you want to get an advantage with the college degree, but it only gives you an advantage over who? those who don't have college degrees, right?
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right.once again, you're back to the same argument. whatever is free, that's the starting point. the reason you get a college degree is because you want to go past that starting point.
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if we make it free through two more years of college, all we've done is established a new starting point.
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you have no advantage then. so now, rather than getting that high school degree and coming out with an advantage...
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you have to get 15 years, you know, kindergarten. so k through 12. rather than 13 years now it takes 15 years just to get to the starting line.
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you got to get a better college degree, or military, or go into the workforce.
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...as well. okay. they have free college education in england. and that's not really the case is it?
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i don't know much about england. i'll be honest.
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no, i do know that europe is a mess.right.and so i wouldn't want to emulate it in anything.
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okay. seriously, why would i want to emulate a continent that is so far in debt...
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that it's completely falling apart. all right. i don't want to look to failures as my example.
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what i would do when i look at a young person, i say, "look, bottom line, the reason you get a high school degree is that's the starting line."
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the reason that's the starting line is because it's free. as far as you extend free, that is where the minimum will become.
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and that's where everybody is going to be. everybody that you're competing against.
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right. exactly. so now you're having to spend 15 years just to get to the starting line.
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well basically this, there's one thing worse than putting back the finish line, and that's moving back the starting line. we're going to make you wait two years longer to start.
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it's wafting through the studio, so where do you want to go next?
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them come up against the reality of the situation and then let them speak.
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and what do they usually come back with? i got nothing. i'm sitting here going uh...
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if you do it, if you beat them over the head with your talking points, which probably are very good, they feel controlled.right.it doesn't matter if you win the debate because you've lost them.
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and that's about all they own at this point in time in their lives.
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and i'll tell young people this, i'll say, "when did jesus and the apostles ever try to make non-christians live like christians?"
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so now you're a young person, you're krissy again. i know you hate-
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okay. there is no christian jihad.right.all right.there's-
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there's no neo political ideology that is christianity.
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i'll buy that when we're talking about abortion. i will buy that when we're talking about [inaudible 00:08:45].
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i'll buy that in those areas.
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you just described becoming a christian in america.true.
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you see, what i'm basically saying is, i'm not controlling it. does that make any sense?
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same sex marriage doesn't make a ton of sense to me if we are indeed the party that brings more choices into people's lives.
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she does not want chemotherapy. she says that she believes that the chemo will do more damage to her body than the cancer will.
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she was seeking with her mother alternative treatments for the cancer. so it was not something that she was just letting go. but this is a case where the government has said-
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insinuation. that is exactly what's happened here. the supreme court in connecticut has decided that it knows better than this young lady does how to care for her body.
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and the thing that is really driving me nuts is-
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