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operations to project the power, economic power from one part of the world into the other part of the world.
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and he's going to round up all of her ethnic group and have them killed.
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i said, "where did you hear that?" "it was on whatsapp."
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thousand 500 people killed is a person who belongs to other people, who is part of a community.
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here we go.
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...massive sets of problems. the data colonialism problem led by the social media companies, and then...
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and this is one of the conversations that didn't make it into the book, because literally i just run out of space. but i-
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this session and then maybe the teller can take questions and-
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i used to be a fellow here at berkeley client center. i-
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framed on the web now, and it's going to be recorded for posterity it'll appear on the bergman...
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anyway, thank you so much for that very generous introduction and thank you to the berkman center team, especially-
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so i'm going to try to keep my remarks relatively brief and leave a lot of time for conversation.
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i voiced the title this way because my central argument is not that anything has been settled, but...
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this uncertainty and possibility that i want us to, is it worth.
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this is the hegemony that the media theorists, richard barbrook and andy cameron named in 1995...
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the california ideology. hence goodbye, california
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however, recent reports about the growing number of both white and-
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starting disinformation and hate speech have raised the question of whether such problems are as the saying-
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become wrong. some of the new tendencies recently foregrounded in media have been-
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i recommend jesse daniel's book, cyber racism from 2009. and sections of kathleen belew's bring the war home that deal with white nationalist organizing on usenet is...
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really as the early 1980s.
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the parts of my research also look at what i call right cyber utopianism. in the nineties, where there's the use...
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there's the idea not only have a kind of right wing counter public sphere,
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but other tendencies, the tendencies i'm going to focus on. see more authentically new.
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...logic, the magazine i started, also published a record. sorry, i co-published. a record of some of their early actions in june 2017 in a book called tech against trump...
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and i imagine that a lot of folks here have read at least a little bit about them, yes.
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so shoshana zuboff's work on surveillance capitalism...
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so introducing the tech left who actually, jumped ahead,
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..brokered by peter teal to bring tech executives to speak to trump at trump tower...
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people who mentioned it, because they were in an industry where they tended to think of their bosses as liberal and their values as liberal, tended to think also that they had a high degree of-
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and the difficulties that those intercultural and linguistic challenges posed.
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...allie she argued made it very difficult to organize in this sort of binary way workers against management...
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election, they too turned to issues related to software and surveillance, and here's-
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some photos from an action they staged at palentir headquarters in january of 2017. i-
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been a block party that some of their group attended at peter teal's house a few months later.
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public action, there's science for the people doing a solidarity action, and a protest at microsoft.
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...actions at salesforce last summer...
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last november from amazon employees to bezos-
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employees, this curious assimilation
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a right wing version of the californian ideology was ascendant. a free
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men and women in the network that this is an idea that an academic circles has become pretty familiar.
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ms. marxist, trying to theorize the nature of value accumulation in the digital sphere.
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...get into a little bit why i think marist feminist actually have some of the best ideas for talking about this topic...
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...digital natives. but i suggested earlier one of the most influential formulations has been the concept of surveillance capitalism. that's the one...
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an account of how a new economy around data extraction and analysis and new kinds of contractual forms is emerging.
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...to other users of technology. i think there's an argument to be made that we're all tech workers. and so far as we all are part of the processes that generate value for companies like fa....
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sorry. janelle is breaking my heart.
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great question. and i think that the only way to answer is that there's a very wide spectrum of opinions that i've heard expressed by people...
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so yes and no on that second part of the question.
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and so i guess i should be actually standing up so...
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what you think are the most successful instances of actually in-
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questioning the term tech worker even, right? because i-
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google and facebook in this sphere...
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temporary and contract workers who work with code as well and a lot of discrepancies.
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i remember talking to folks involved in one of the early organizing efforts around-
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employs far more engineers than facebook, for instance...
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so there then it raises this question of how do we define the tech company, and is there a sense in which it-
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that sort of, the coherence of this idea of the tech worker is stretched past what it can bear.
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question. i think that, as usual, it's sort of hard for me to generalize because i think i've spoken to people-
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to establish ethics board. i think there is an anxiety among many people that...
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much more expensive and difficult to train a new engineer if...
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what is the importance of the worker part?
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ordinary citizens may have very limited ability to influence these kinds of decisions at big companies.
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more leftist framework of thinking about the democratic. did you have something-
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...external piece. i was just curious if anybody had examples of the external demand as well?
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...that maybe others have ideas about it in the room.
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...not just academics and they also address some of these issues
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...law, because it seems to be a little shortsighted to just rely on...
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talk to and i can't think of anyone who would be opposed to-
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be struck by your analysis of the me too movement and the movement becoming a hashtag-
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...call her named kylie jarrett called the digital housewife. that gets into a lot of this, that frameworks for thinking about...
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...about the web and the forms of wealth and power that the web made it possible for a few tech companies to accumulate.
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and i'm wondering whether that's also on the table.
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but so many of these questions, i'm sort of toggling between what i think intellectually and theoretically and then what i've heard other people...
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and i think actually nick srnicek's new textbook on platform capitalism is quite concerned with capitalism, but i think the criticism of shoshanna...
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that's a fair criticism in that...
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...only in the media on sort the attention economy and sort of the specific focus on the harms to the attention of individual users...
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...point. that it's really important for the critique of surveillance capitalism to be not just about surveillance, but about capitalism is absolutely right.
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absolutely right. if we think of that sort of california ideology moment as the apotheosis of something i see starting in the white counterculture in the sixties of sort of...
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i was just wondering about the, let's say looking, being a bit of a futurist and thinking about the....
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on their relationship to the larger ecosystem...
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more and more of these actions take place and succeed in their immediate aims. more...
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was there a specific backlash that you know of against particularly lower paid employees at these companies for...
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...and so many of the lower wage positions, the people in question work for contract companies, not for the big famous tech companies...
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i don't remember the very specific details of that incident, but i think that, that...
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.....record and anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion...
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feed. that would surely be something worth talking about, and that may be less than your direct zone of responsibility. and third, i-
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well, thanks. especially, i know, i think it was the last day of classes today, so my hat is off to you for being dedicated enough to come and join us.
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seen terror propaganda or known terra propaganda-
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tiers. tier one is what you can think of as the worst. this is the...
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it's going to be based on one of these characteristics. and you say, "these people are scum," or, "these people are stupid," or, "i don't want these people in my school." the-
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let's say a concentration camp and it says...
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is allowing for the kinds of connections and conversations that before it, before social media simply...
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and so that's why we've now built out appeals. appeals...
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clear and we'll refine it.how do you think about this-
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here's the new rules and they're much more efficient.
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nevertheless, we have held the line that we will not-
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often and maybe facebook should play a role in...
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[inaudible 00:01:04] mechanism be for their rendered decisions-
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and maybe this gets to our third area of the general pessimism.
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