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General rule, do not pay for anything till you get the keys. Also This is 100% sure a scam. Never heard of a shorthold tenancy agreement before and that price for an appartment in Utrecht is too low
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2024-09-08
Assured Shorthold Tenancies only exist in the UK, and mean precisely nothing in NL. Total scam
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2024-09-08
Assured Shorthold Tenancies only exist in the UK, and mean precisely nothing in NL. Total scam
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2024-09-08
In this market no landlord needs to look for tenants. It's the other way around. 100% scam
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2024-09-08
scam. DO NOT SEND MONEY, do NOT give personal information; identity theft/extortion is a thing.
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2024-09-08
Scam 1000%
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2024-09-08
Considering how tight the market is, if I was a landlord I wouldn’t to after tenants…
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2024-09-08
it has no signs of being NOT a scam. lol
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2024-09-08
It's 99.9% a scam. If you read something about a lawyer involved then you know enough. That's simply not how it works here.
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2024-09-08
Scam as hell.
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2024-09-08
Scam. Do not hand over any cash until you have the keys in your hand
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2024-09-08
Absolutely a scam lol. Don’t send any money at all unless you’ve met the landlord and seen the flat in person and have a signed agreement
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2024-09-08
Renting in general is quite a scary thing. Also Utrecht it is really really common to get scammed for your deposit + first rent and …… when in doubt check first at the location itself if it is even up for rent and check with residents that are living there🤟🏼
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2024-10-08
General rule: do not make any payment unless you are able to see the apartment in person (or video call at least). I paid for my room before I got the key (since I hadn't arrived in the Netherlands), BUT after I had a video call with the landlord and other people living there.
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2024-09-08
That's disappointing
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2024-09-08
Sadly, every single frame is based on a true story, even the last one. A landlord complained to the police that a tenant parked his bicycle in a way the landlord didnt like (because the tenant went to the HC). Officer immediately went over and told the tenant to comply with the landlord.
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2024-09-08
What? That's crazy.
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2024-09-08
omg also for the middle one, i talked to them today and they said they got the video evidence but the prosecutor decided it didn't count as a threat so i can't file an appeal and filing a complaint would probably go nowhere.... :D
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2024-09-08
why am I not surprised? Police enjoying power trips? craaazy unlikely eh
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2024-09-08
Welcome to the real world.
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2024-09-08
For anyone curious - [this](https://new.reddit.com/r/Rentbusters/comments/1cm9zuf/utrecht_courtesy_of_utinyboii_a_landlord_explode/) is the evidence that the public prosecutor dismissed the complaint on
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2024-09-08
How is there lack of evidence then? That’s impossible
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2024-09-08
For real, this landlord makes my blood boil. Also, I was under the impression that the tennant already left the room safely a while ago. How come the bicycle incident is new, or did I miss something?
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2024-09-08
separate incident.. the post is a composite of a few cases I was directly and indirectly part of
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2024-09-08
u/tinyboiii and I are perplexed also. That case really made me lose faith in the legal system in NL.
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2024-09-08
I assume that his threat did not constitute a true, actionable threat against my life according to the prosecutor. I didn't get his reasoning, that's just my assumption. And we will never know if he would have indeed hurt me, since I left to keep myself safe obviously lol. Unfortunately it's a bit of a catch-22, I think
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2024-09-08
aw well, it's helped a lot of other people too, especially with your advice. you're still doing a lot of good :)
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2024-09-08
The police has nothing to do with evictions.
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2024-10-08
ACAB
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2024-10-08
they are suppose to prevent illegal ones. Landlord tries to force you out of the house, you call the police.
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2024-10-08
All cats are babies!!
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2024-10-08
When people tell me ACAB is only for American cops
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2024-10-08
Finally figuring out that the police exist to defend capital, not regular people?
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2024-10-08
Hello, I signed a contract with the owner of the apartment on June 16, 2024, the contract stipulates that I will be able to rent a room for a specified period of time and it came into force on July 1, 2024 (until April 1, 2025). In the light of the new regulations that entered into force on July 1, 2024, this is not a contract for an indefinite period? I don't know if it has any significance, but I have been registered at this address for over 2 years and previously my friends and I rented the entire apartment. The owner offered us new contracts for the rooms, having previously terminated the contract for the entire apartment (the contract was for one of us - not me) without informing us that we had the right to refuse because our contract had expired for an indefinite period.
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2024-10-08
I will add that I am the only one who rents a room as a private person, the rest of the rooms are "corporate", so the owner does what he wants and how he wants in the apartment, bringing people in and doing renovations without consulting me.
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2024-10-08
16 June signed. No indefinite
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2024-11-08
Dear all, Couple of weeks ago, I received a letter from my landlord's jurist. Can't go into details, but it relates to a HC case that I won, and they basically want to evict me or otherwise change the contract against the ruling. I live in Utrecht so there's a Huurteam, but they seem painfully slow and the landlord gave me only two weeks. They also seem to only concern HC related services. While I can technically answer deal with the jurist myself, but of course I won't be able to know all the tricks and pitfalls the professional jurists use to trick me into signing something critical. Do you know any jurist (or anyone experienced) to hire and deal with them? And how much would it cost normally? Thanks in advance!
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2024-12-08
Send me a PM... I can have a look at it. Better yet...just call me...phone number is in the group description
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2024-12-08
Did you not take legal insurance before busting?
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2024-12-08
If you’re a student, you can also call Vidius Rechtshulp. But check their opening hours, they aren’t very reachable.
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2024-12-08
sadly no :(. I would get it from now on though, lesson learned!
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2024-12-08
Seems that they want to scare you. There’s no way that they can evict you or change the contract.
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2024-12-08
Have a check if its even a real jurist and not just his mate using the font of one.
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2024-12-08
"but of course won't be able to know all the tricks and pitfalls the professional jurists use to trick me into signing something critical." Do not sign anything they give you on the spot. Always tell them that you'll look into it, consult someone about it, and then sign if things are ok - otherwise not.
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2024-13-08
They can’t just evict you. Also can’t change contract. So there’s really nothing they can do. He ‘gave you’ 2 weeks? For what? It’s probably just an intimidation tactic.
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2024-13-08
Im in Utrecht, dealing with a HC case against my previous landlord through a lawyer that also accept subsidized legal aid. Our neighbors upstairs used the same and already got their money back. Let me know if you’d like more details.
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https://www.pararius.nl/appartement-te-huur/den-bosch/716845e4/sint-josephstraat
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https://www.pararius.nl/appartement-te-huur/utrecht/136ef402/plantage
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2024-12-08
When measuring the kitchen counter tops for the points is it supposed to include the sink and stove?
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2024-13-08
Yes. Sink is always included but the stove is not included if it is gas operated. The induction ones are flat and should be included. Check pages 140 onward [Guidelines on how to measure the kitchen](https://pdfhost.io/v/pkQ.BpP4z_HuurcommissieGebrekenboekenBeleidsboeken_2022_ENGLISH)
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2024-13-08
Thank you! This is very helpful.
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![gif](giphy|mgqefqwSbToPe|downsized)
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Hi all, I viewed a cute house today that I think has the ability to be busted because the price is inflated for the size (60 square m) and furnishings (just basic). There is also no registered energy label for the apartment and the realtor made some comments about potentially improving the insulation soon as it currently costs 200eur a month to heat. A huur point calculator website says this house should be 144-157 points based on no energy label, so a rent price of 841-950 eur (it is advertised for \~2k). In addition to the lack of energy label that was a red flag, the realtor also said the owner lives abroad so the contract is a Type C for 2 years, but you must stay minimum 1 year. After this they may extend the contract but it will always be temporary because the woman may move back. I know diplomat clauses are a thing that is allowed, but I thought under the new rules these temp contract with a minimum stay, that are continually extended but never become indefinite, weren't allowed. Can anyone confirm?
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2024-13-08
If you dont light the house on fire you cannot be kicked out after two years. I think there is a law for that
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2024-13-08
Not true. If the landlord resides outside NL and has an intent to come back, then they can always use the type c contract. Even with the new rules. But OP can still bust since the points system applies irrespective of the contract type. Only thing is OP cannot live there beyond the maximum term.
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yeah so the landlord lives outside NL, so they are using the type C contract. that was my confusion. I don't mind renting and busting it though because I am currently also on a type C contract, so if I can rent temporarily but for 1k less, it's still a win
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Not if you are a student…
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https://www.pararius.nl/studio-te-huur/groningen/8115b4a9/marktstraat
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https://www.pararius.nl/appartement-te-huur/eindhoven/4c0ead56/tongelresestraat
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https://www.pararius.nl/appartement-te-huur/amsterdam/732f87a4/allard-piersonstraat
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[https://www.pararius.nl/appartement-te-huur/amsterdam/f0fb2f17/onstein](https://www.pararius.nl/appartement-te-huur/amsterdam/f0fb2f17/onstein)
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2024-13-08
"oh it's YOU" that's hilarious LOL
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2024-13-08
God that living room looks sad AF. Fifth hand furniture. Bust his ass.
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2024-14-08
Looks like a council house. 2500 euros per month. I think if you tell this to any neighbour in that building they would be laughing their asses off. Probably they would all put up their apartments on pararius too
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2024-14-08
To be clear. You claim Amsterdam Housing has not been involved in a single HC case where the rent got lowered?
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2024-14-08
Perhaps you would be so kind to place a WWS points report with every ad to demonstrate this?
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2024-14-08
Wow this is a really pathetic reaction. Very unprofessional…😬
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2024-14-08
> knowing that these kind of forums like Rentbusters exist? T Yes. Because the amount of people that don't know about Rentbusting or the possibility far outnumber the people that do, and you can get away with it more times than you can't. Simple, really. Kom op man
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2024-14-08
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying the benefits outweigh the risks.
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2024-14-08
WEll can you provide the documentation you said you would provide in the phone call we just had? info@rentbuster.nl
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2024-14-08
As far as I know in Den Haag, when a new address is registered, within one month, the Haages municipality will send a letter to the address saying if you are victim of unlawful high rent, you can contact rent affairs help desk from municipality. In this way, every new renter knows what to do next! Amsterdam should learns from Den Haag in this respect.
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2024-14-08
This is a very weak argument to make. If you have a point calculation and you believe it is accurate the “waste of time for both tenant and owner” should be why you share it publically even if you are not legally required to do so. Is it fair to conclude from how you phrased your sentence that “you ask the owner for it” but do not validate it yourself?
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Do you take responsibility when one of the apts rented out by you gets busted? Do you reimburse the owner in that case? Or do you just collect your fees and leave all the risk with the owner?
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2024-14-08
Tl:;dr; not your risk
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2024-14-08
I've been lookimg for an apartment for a while now. How do you come to the conclusion this apartment is 170 pts? I wouldnt mind to overpay and go to HC but i feel like this is quite a big risk
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2024-14-08
Just when it got interesting he ran (or got whacked on the head by his boss).
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2024-14-08
Yeah he said he was gonna send me a bunch of documents proving the place was liberalized. I guess he changed his mind.
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2024-14-08
I ran the numbers on it. It is pretty close to the border and I would say that it is more risky than most. This one is relying on the WOZ cap to keep the rent below the liberalization border. I would NOT recommend signing a contract if you cannot afford the current rent price and are hoping to reduce it by busting unless you are on the verge of homelessness and have nothing to lose.
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2024-14-08
I find it oddly flattering that they refer to me that way.
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2024-14-08
What't this apartment's woz? I dont see the house number. Also, arent model a contracts the old model?
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2024-14-08
Its number 42. WOZ is 512000 euro
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2024-14-08
Why do they do that to you? It seems very mean!
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2024-15-08
Imma apply
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https://www.pararius.nl/appartement-te-huur/breda/d0e26fce/speelhuislaan
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2024-13-08
I'd say 300 - 600 a month max
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Long story, but please bare with me. I was in an apartment from August 2022 to November 2023. I had a contract in which I paid a fixed amount (150€) for gas, water, electricity, with the condition that an adjustment would me made in the end of the year. I want to add that it was a small apartment (32m2) and I would sometimes spend a month out, so the actual price for GWE was likely much lower than 150€. Of course, to no one’s surprise, the landlord just ignored all the messages asking for the settlement. I then contacted Huurcommissie and long story short they settled that from August to December 2022, the landlord has to return 300€. The remaining rental period should be handled in a different claim, with same process. The catch here is that Huurcommissie can only give the sentence, they cannot actually make the landlord pay. So they say I need to contact a legal entity to make him pay it back. My question is: does anyone know what entity could help me with this? Of course, it doesn’t make sense for me to spend say 300€ on a lawyer to get my 300€ back… But I don’t want for this guy to just get what he wants, it really annoys me that he takes advantage of me.
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2024-14-08
What is your exact question? Seems that you have answered your own question already.
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What is your income? Do you have low income and right to rechtbijstand?
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I don’t think so, both me and my girlfriend work and we live together, I think our joint income is about 60000€/year or so
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2024-14-08
There are a couple of easy steps you can take yourself that you can do to get the money back. By law you need to send two remainder letters to the landlord to ask him to pay. Threatening collections costs and interest is usually enough. I have sample texts somewhere. Text me later if I forget to send them
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2024-14-08
Just do the second settlement. Than claim all in one with a lawyer for 165€ via Juridisch Loket.
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Can’t he also just detract what the landlord owes him from his rent? I’m currently in a HC dispute with my landlord and I’m quite sure he won’t pay the overpaid rent back to me out of his own volition, so I was planning to just not pay any rent until the amount he owes me is covered by the rent. Or is that a very bad idea?
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