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that sentence is like textbook location four you know context | loc4 |
theres books like breaking the habit of self you know titles like that out there and thats really exactly what people are doing when theyre transitioning into fundamental well being | tfw |
layer one in terms of your sense of self and your dominant perspective then there would be | lay1 |
because location two layer four can sound so much like | loc2lay4 |
looking out at the space | lay2 |
the sense of a localized distinct observersubject is no longer present instead everything is just arising as one field of experiencebecause of this nonduality at location 2 especially beyond layer 1 and the shallow end of layer 2 there is no sense of distinction between the objects of experience the experiencer and the process of experiencing it all seems to unfold as one | loc2lay2 |
perception and the resulting change in sense of | loc2 |
because when i focus on the qualities of space i mainly sense fullness and a substance like presence | lay3 |
it functions autonomously but is now increasingly outside of even subjective awareness despite continuing to impact behavior | loc4lay1 |
all pervasive presence | loc2lay3 |
spaciousness is coming from that side from your left side | lay2 |
the location four doesnt you know show up as something that is necessarily dissociative or trauma related in in the ordinary sense | loc4 |
i have my eyes half closed and half eyes open theres some sparks of light | nfw |
deepest and darkest despair of their life | tfwc |
its kind of operating from | lay1 |
divinity in everything | loc3 |
location three combination layer one | loc3lay1 |
im describing is layer three okay so theres the experience of for you you know that all pervading sense of presence of the divine but it remains an experience of it um and therefore relational even though theres a union its relational and um its if you compare you know the idea of what we experience say the sun we experience the sun in a certain way um but the experience of the sun as it is unto itself is entirely different to our experience of the sun and the same goes for the divine or you know the the ground of being while it remains relational its an entirely different experience than when that relationship falls away or collapses and theres nothing to experience it and theres only it as it is unto itself um which means the qualities as we experience them the qualities of it whether thats divinity or presence or beingness um those can no longer be perceived because theyre only perceived in in relation to it you know as it is known to the self um but when that reflection on experience ceases its just as it is unto itself its its you know without um go ahead | lay3 |
nothing appears to have independent or essential existence and there is only undifferentiated realityv | loc4lay4 |
the clear light of being or consciousness or awareness | loc2lay3 |
lets say its just an open space to me like its theres just if i step back so if im stepping back and just um saying if theres no thought if im if im not putting thought into it it just its kind of just is so theres not really a sea without thought | loc1lay2 |
silent peace have that those types of qualities | loc2 |
but what it suggests is that its possible that youre having shallower experiences of layer three that youre not recognizing as layer three or not paying attention to because its not the thick liquid um experience that was probably more powerful um because even that sense of presence getting heightened the sense of aliveness pervading the spaciousness is in the direction of layer three beginning to be experienced as simultaneous with layer two | lay3 |
layer 3 feels like a profound fullness rather than feeling as though it contains everything like layer 2 this feels as though it pervades and infuses everything | loc1lay3 |
layer 4 is very difficult to access from location 1 those who can get a sense of it are mostly finders who have deepened into layer 4 in further locations and are pulled back down to location 1 due to circumstantial reasons | loc1lay4 |
no thoughts | loc4 |
its like identity is still remaining on the layer one on the level of the mind but its kind of getting very immersed in this experience of emptiness and nothingness that its reacting to it like its sort of seeing its own emptiness or its own | lay1 |
you can really focus that towards location three so that means focusing on the location three type qualities | loc3 |
and even i even hesitate to say me but theres definitely a space between the trigger and whatever is reacting i would say the spaciousness between it | lay2 |
okay is this one of those location two examples where theyre not where theyre basically just not acknowledging the emotions | loc2 |
modulation of joy | loc3 |
sometimes if im in or doing awareness it can be just empty the idea of a container doesnt really i can kind of manufacture the idea of a container but even the container has something outside of it um and its not like its not like distinct for me so i could be doing a guy and like have experiences of both a container and no container but its almost like the container isnt complete containing everything its like almost if you imagine the universe is in a container and theres endless something outside of that | lay2 |
calm | lay3 |
these relate to being beingness itself the most foundational layer of association when these fall away it subjectively feels as though the centerless field of beingnessawareness ie layer 3 disappears or somehow collapses into raw indivisible existence then all that remains is existence in spontaneous unfolding | loc4lay3 |
youll transition | loc1lay1 |
very common and totally understandable from a fundamental wellbeing standpoint | tfw |
i seem to get stuck there just thinking just in my thoughts or emotions sometimes but whenever i stop and look for either emptiness or fullness i seem to find it so im not sure what that means exactly like which way am i coming from or or maybe im just in layer one and pretending to be in the other layers | lay1 |
theres just absolutely no guarantee once you jump across that location five channel but you get the idea | loc5+ |
single emotion | loc3 |
okay so lets lets just assume for purposes of this test that you are actually in location to | loc2 |
beingness that pervades everything | lay3 |
since 2017 was when i did finders course and transitioned | tfwp |
okay great so you did that early on and you i assume have a looker from that perspective | loc1 |
and in layer two um theres more spaciousness theres less of when you look through your eyes theres not a sense of identity anymore more of a sense of spaciousness yeah | lay2 |
god jesus or the holy spirit depending on | loc3 |
experienced became increasingly positive | loc2 |
thats a little bit of a difficult place to stick persistently and so its probably more of like a very high layer three | loc2lay4 |
unless you want to be in location one or something | loc1 |
selfreferential thoughts have declined significantly and thoughts that remain are largely present moment oriented | loc3lay1 |
higher levels of consciousness | loc5+ |
that sounds very layer two so you have diagnosed yourself well on that one | lay2 |
i think i probably zoom in a little bit too far or zoom in back down to like layer one | lay1 |
layer 3 is sometimes experienced as the foundation or source of manifest existence which is typically integrated with conceptions of divinity in the case of people who experience the divine version of location 3 because it is undifferentiated and formless the only way the symbolic mind can conceive of it is as unmanifest pure potentiality | loc3lay3 |
but like the distances between things dont seem any bigger than usual the space itself feels very big and infinite and | lay2 |
the experience of earlier locations is changed as a result of the system having deepened in late locations | loc4lay4 |
i had a man that used to be a teacher have a very strong strong triggered reaction about something that didnt really connect to me but he was kind of venting on me and he was literally screaming at me frothing at the mouth and i felt quite spacious and he was blocking me he wouldnt let me leave like i was like do i need him in the groin or im okay and and it was this interesting experience but i felt like i could just really be there and it didnt impact me highly it was you know i walked when i walked away and was able to drive away i took some deep breaths and was like okay and my system felt like it released like i had to i had a couple tears but not with an emotion and i felt my system release some of whatever he was projecting but i felt quite spacious during it | lay2 |
complete absence of emotion | loc4 |
sort of the presence and the fullness of place | lay2 |
all of these types of distinctions go | lay4 |
its obviously also good for accessing layer four | lay4 |
sense of emptiness in that spaciousness | lay2 |
starts blissing you out or whatever you may want to you know backpedal a little bit on that if you dont want to wind up in location three | loc3 |
its peaks in intensity in the trees | loc2lay3 |
it feels like like one little point one little point trying to poke into all the fullness | lay3 |
i would say pull down to layer one | lay1 |
into layer three and location two | loc2lay3 |
but i realized especially because of this program and having to reflect i dont know when i stopped having selfreferential thoughts | loc4 |
perceiving or aware at its most foundational level can kind of emerge from layer four to varying degrees or collapse | loc2lay4 |
youre just like seeing it from you know outside of its space time or something | loc4lay2 |
layer two of that spacious beingness that feels like your real nature is always there | lay2 |
the notion that fundamental wellbeing necessarily entails experiencing a unified or onenessbased type of perception nonduality is not accurate | loc1lay2 |
location two layer four is an easier traverse between going between the layers and to then when you flip into four it | loc2lay4 |
probably an apparent stability | loc3 |
layer three of location two is where i want to be | loc2lay3 |
4 | loc4 |
you know love joy divine you know thing | loc3 |
very full | lay3 |
overabundance | loc3 |
it was just this experience of all inclusive love like there was no separation between anything and it was incredible | loc3lay3 |
if it was in layer two it would be you moving up to that boundary between layer two and layer three and starting to experience that which is totally possible | lay2 |
quality of clear openness | lay2 |
no experience of | loc4 |
it feels quite a bit more spacious now | lay2 |
many of the positive traits and types of human experience | loc3 |
they kind of emerge into awareness as this kind of nonverbal understanding or knowingness that is essentially something translated down to a deeper layer from layer one | lay1 |
theres much more flow now than there used to be | loc1lay2 |
layer four | lay4 |
fundamental sense of okayness but its kind of in the background | loc1 |
very rich and very full you know complete | lay3 |
and so you could potentially do a little biasing that way | loc4 |
location 1 | loc1 |
its joy | lay3 |
so i was tripping over the the definition of i think its location three layer three around one singular emotion so the word emotion was tripping me because dont feel that as something localized to this form but theres a theres a tonal quality to that space or a i dont know how to maybe a frequency sensation | loc3lay3 |
vibrancy | lay3 |
daniel brown retreats | nfw |
like its holding everything like everythings appearing in it i cant see the edges of it though its a bit like guess the ocean would be a good metaphor mean although you kind of he know that the ocean has limits you cant see them but i dont i dont know theres any limits to this because i cant see them and i dont you dont have that reference point to know theres any limits to it so i suppose im probably not using the word container correctly | lay3 |
locations 1 generally experience a full range of emotions | loc1 |
classic end of christian | loc3 |
body will react as if there was a thought | loc5+ |
and so keep that in mind for the probing the visual effects of location five location six youre looking for glitches involving senses and the nervous system | loc5+ |
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