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so you might be more in that direction in the sense that you get that profound sense of peace and very little affect in that deeper place in layer three in location two then then you know and thats thats fine but if you want the love joy version of it um you may need to either try to bias your system in that direction by you know seeing if you can call up the love joy sort of qualities that tends to be a little bit shallower in layer | loc3lay3 |
but with with some limits on the love and compassion side of things and the overall predominance of joy um not a sense of unity type stuff or divine type stuff or anything like that it just might be easier for you to route in to layer three and location two rather than trying to make the jump | loc2lay3 |
remain quite highly social in later locations because its just whats been habituated you know so most people had the socialization habituated from an individualized sense of self perspective then the individualized sense of self goes away and whats happened is theres wiring in their brain where theres key parts of the brain that basically get more active when the individualized sense of self is there and less active when the individualized sense of self isnt there is reduced or whatever else | tfw |
it really sounds to me like you might have had a transition to the celestial experience of things pretty recently you know the sex stuff fits obviously and it sounds like there were probably some movements in that direction even prior to whatever the last five days or something but youve had your whole in your document its just such a divine sacred you know um you know surrendering devotional constantly merging constantly dissolving sort of feel of a layer three experience and the one thing that we have the only thing that we have potentially correlated at this point with the transition to the celestial is essentially that type of sort of devotional surrender if you will and so you fit the bill for that you know perfectly your descriptions you know the minute i see something like exalted and crystalline its just like you know nobody else ever says crystalline | loc3 |
something into this experience of two so my experience of this has its just now releasing a lot of the as of a couple of days ago thought it might be wise to look at this yeah so ive been experiencing you know this very strange weird nonduality type | loc2lay2 |
location four is not as intense | loc4 |
four so the information on the layers was just me edging out for my peace palace from location four you know annemiek said something about locations it didnt really occur to me that you could change locations that quickly you know you used to have the fluid four and you had the concept where you change locations | loc4 |
life in its totality has no opposite and cannot die | loc4lay4 |
i still get triggered | loc1 |
associating stillness with focus | lay1 |
so i meditated on it and immediately resolved it it disappeared that was the last big one | loc4 |
regardless of whether youre in location one | loc1 |
stark nothingness | loc4 |
there is a sense of me here but its not its not showing up in the perceptual field like the perceptual field is just here the sense the sense of me | loc2 |
i dont feel sadness | loc4 |
location two because my system shifted and i was being the the space spacious emptiness um without without being the body anymore | loc2 |
so that even that phrase having a charmed life | loc2 |
if that really drops away completely that may be more noticeable but even then because of the lack of self reflection its very possible for finders to just not even notice that right um but yeah thats thats a significant kind of shift when layer three really disappears from perception along with any remaining sense of even the most impersonal form of self or beingness | lay3 |
conceptualizing | lay1 |
your sense that you can do anything make any choices or anything like that typically goes away | loc4 |
overwhelming sort of feeling of joy | loc3 |
very concentrated state | loc1 |
deep peace and beingness | loc2 |
boring | lay2 |
finders experiencing this can seem atypically antisocial and rude during this period | loc2 |
of layer four | lay4 |
this deepening process involves the falling away of remaining subtle layers of self at layer 3 | loc4lay3 |
center less | lay3 |
so basically the components of that meta emotion the sense of the divine and methods that are particularly good for location three | loc3 |
a major reason for this was because the change they experienced in motivation after their transition to fundamental wellbeing produced negative impacts on their income social life or other aspects of their life and they simply decided to switch backmany people who rejected fundamental wellbeing had one major thing in common they had experienced rapid transitions that took them directly into location 4 in one case a person read a book about fundamental wellbeing went to sleep and woke up in location 4 despite being absorbed in a previously undreamtof level of wellbeing and sense of freedom he felt hed traded his humanity for it it is not uncommon for those who land in location 4 without religious or spiritual moorings or a psychological frame of reference to feel this way | loc4 |
so those other components are potentially there that you know can sort of come together into that composite of into that composite emotion for location three | loc3 |
it has ebbed and flowed a little bit but its been pretty consistent feeling of deeper stillness at the points where one would expect you know you were describing things around the fullness or just stuff like that versus the body per se versus like sinuses and mhm or even in this part of the conversation you know like it seems like the stillness is ebbed a little bit from the depth that it was a moment ago | lay3 |
like i felt everything kind of like drop into like layer one so i feel much more like actually as the personality | lay1 |
experience love | loc2lay3 |
when youre in location four you give yourself a little bit you know more likely access to path of freedom versus path of humanity | loc4 |
glimpse a more pure form of layer four in location four | loc4lay4 |
yeah it is so this this stillness is a bit more still like the presence sort of is like it was like a like you know with it wasnt quite still but it was a bit more still in fullness or much more still in fullness | lay3 |
felt nice i was kind of surprised at that point | lay3 |
life is just fantastic | loc4 |
all right so you mentioned your goal is first uh location two layer three so it sounds like youve got that already of course theres always more to explore | loc2lay3 |
so see what see if you can really deepen your access to layer to be able to shift their fluidly at least to a very you know complete experience of it if not to an identity shift and see what that does you know when when theres a trigger or something even if its a very subtle trigger just really sink into that layer two experience and see what that does | lay2 |
start off with greater intensity | loc3 |
all right location three has the sense of divinity or panpsychists theres a sense of being in union with that um its that single emotion of joy love compassion maybe some other facets depending on someones belief systems or cultural underpinnings things like that whereas layer three is probably more of what youre thinking off layer three is more of that field like presence that we talked about i dont have to repeat it because we just did a video on all that | loc3 |
probably youre already doing all of that intuitively it would be my guess and then the other thing is there was you mentioned temporary glimpses when deeper of a shift of your identity into spaciousness | lay2 |
theres lots of things that should bring it to the fore and they just dont | loc4lay3 |
christianity | loc3 |
layer one from a more persistent higher place as well | lay1 |
boundary and location two is just like the state of missouri cant contain it its just the vastness | loc2 |
but again that is if i choose to focus in that way and i dont have a sense of emptiness rather i would say when i you know when if i just feel its more of a sense of fullness that im experiencing and i feel like i experienced that in the world as well so not just in myself and but then when i relate to people for example that is still going to be you know im still going to default back into seeing us as two separate individuals right and you know very much in that way | lay3 |
from there they can let the whole process go before anything further arises or allow it to arise | loc3 |
fullness or that beingness from a layer three standpoint | lay3 |
single emotion of love and joy and compassion | loc3lay2 |
more towards positive emotion than location 1 | loc2 |
this includes experiences like felicity or frustration though we must be careful here | loc4 |
or are temporarily experiencing fundamental well being | tfw |
if theyve got some temporary glimpses or temporary experiences happening of location two | loc2 |
i call it the exuberance of the universe like laughter that its a flavor in layer three | lay3 |
clear openness never goes away | lay2 |
i can trust it completely | loc2lay3 |
divine one | loc3 |
when i do come into that spaciousness | lay2 |
over to location three | loc3 |
often have a noetic sense that everything is unfolding exactly as it should | loc1 |
being experienced in the context of fundamental wellbeing | tfwc |
everything arises | loc2lay2 |
however does it seem like when youre looking that everything is just sort of showing up okay so thats just a quick test we do for nondual perception so thats a second vote in favor of location two | loc2 |
sense of agency | lay2 |
others like ones of layer one tend to be dissolved very rapidly by layer two | lay1 |
i think i remember reading your childhood thing and your pastor thing um let me said it felt like getting lost and ending up on material earth so thats you know that can be in the direction of it for sure but that can also just to some degree be a finder thing as well in some cases even as early as location one | loc1 |
ive actually one benefit is that ive got i have my anchor or my hook for location three out of it which just happened recently just pure pure holiness | loc3 |
it certainly sounds like most of your experience of the deeper layer stuff is layer three everything you described is sort of layer three qualities and it sounds like you can actually sink into that very easily and you know a highly fluid to that place and in addition it shifts you to location two from having a more dual sort of perception and so thats really just awesome | lay3 |
connected to everything in the immediate | loc1 |
and get stuck in location one | loc1 |
the senselessness at layer three | lay3 |
their emotional life becomes more and more positive and they can reach a point where negative emotions are rare | loc2 |
whats out there is out there | lay2 |
spaciousness is coming i dont know how to describe it | lay2 |
layer 2 is essentially out of phase with location 4 and can bring on difficult experiences for people | loc4lay2 |
but it becomes more salient and | loc3 |
there is no sense of distance or space even the field of awareness disappears leaving no sense of any dimensiononly the allpresent reality | loc4lay4 |
that makes sense because remember like the first ever transition had into fundamental wellbeing and then a second transition when i went probably to a deeper layer i think those two transitions felt very strong and noticeable quite dramatic mean they were not like you know catastrophe dramatic like some people have but you know they were unmissable right whereas this feels this shifting between what might be layer three | lay3 |
i saw shapes in language | nfw |
dark night of the soul | nfw |
people actually not thinking that theyre even in fundamental wellbeing | loc1 |
it feels like a battle between my mind and the fullness right now | lay3 |
im immediately noticing that im the witness um and then its obvious its easy to notice then that things have an emptiness about them and that theres | lay2 |
location two also combination one | loc2lay1 |
it could be that that mist type feeling that field type thing mist type thing as its showing up for you which is a totally legit way of describing it might you know you might start to see sort of a consciousness emerge in it | loc3 |
and even the reintroduction of emotions for some | loc5+ |
from close to that place and kind of maybe sync zoom in a bit but you can essentially live probably a lot of your life from a place like that | lay3 |
and so location four is emotionless agency less you know divine less feeling of you know alienness feeling of loss of humanity | loc4 |
so then if i was able to go to location four | loc4 |
talking to everybody and thinking about it and examining myself and whatevers going on in that space | loc4lay3 |
i kind of decided that i wanted to stay involved with society so im no longer at that state where everything is absolutely gone | loc4 |
opposed to feeling like its me | loc2lay1 |
wellbeing is experienced that previously could not have been imagined regardless of how happy they were previously | loc1 |
existence | lay4 |
if its location two sometimes layer two of location two | lay2 |
from layer three or layer three | lay3 |
layer three type of more location three ish type of layer three type experience right | lay3 |
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