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`[105]The present definition in the article is: Libertarianism is a philosophy advocating that individuals should be free to do whatever they wish with their person or property, as long as they do not infringe on the same liberty of others. In order to understand what this sentence is saying, we need to know what ``same liberty`` means. At paragraph 89, I break the sentence down into its component parts, substituting for ``the same libery``, what is meant by ``the same liberty``. If you believe my substitution was wrong, then please do your own substitution for the words ``the same liberty``. The sentence as it stands does not define the libertarian right (i.e. libertarianism), because it permits anything to be the ``right``, because it is using ``right`` to define ``right``. In other words under the present ``definition``, A can batter B if B is gay, provided A is willing to let B batter A,if A is gay. This is not permitted under libertarianism, so the present definition doesn't work. `
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Who actually knows if this ship if really liberty of the seas? I have heard nothing about a name and will be deleteing it if i cannot find a ligitimate source.
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:I've taken out the sub-headings for individual houses and put them in a list instead. I think the page layout is much less confusing this way.
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`::Do I have to repeat ? ::1. Karadžić was/is esteemed as an ethnographer, reformer of Serbian langauge and culture, as well as folklorist. ::2. Karadžić's work consisted, among other things, in misappropriation of Croatian cultural heritage 8the balald ``Hasanaginica``, first published by Fortis, has nothig to do with Serbs-or, Bosnian Muslims, for that matter. It is a purely croatian song which VK ``sold`` as a ``Serbian song``.) Also, his work in lexicography is unthinkable without Croatian heritage-for instance, in his 1847 translation of the New Testament, he explicitely stated he had coined ca. 300 new words. Later investigations http://wwwuser.gwdg.de/~vbockho/vbockhopublikationen.htm have shown that Vuk has simply took more than 90% of his ``new words`` from Joakim Stulli's Croatian dictionary. ::3. but, it's the ideology that matters. Starčević had completely unmasked Karadžić's myth on štokavians-Serbs. And this part of Karadžić's ideology is what even contemporary Croatian linguists find reprehensible: http://www.matica.hr/MH_Periodika/vijenac/1999/135/tekstovi/08.htm, http://www.matica.hr/MH_Periodika/vijenac/1999/138/tekstovi/06.htm `
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==Userbox help== Your userpage is neat. Can you help me remove the white spaces from my userpage. My userboxes are not aligned and I have absolutely no clue as to what to do about them.
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The referencing is very much a work in progress right now, obviously.
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::Ok, i admit i have used sockpuppets in the past but i swear i will never use again. But please help me next time i need your help in an article because as you know there are many people that has bad intentions about the articles relating to Turks and if we dont modify them,wikipedia will look like a racist website. I dont mean you have to agree with me on that article but please take time to listen to me if i send you a message thats why i dont have to revert it. Thank you ( )
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La La La This is my page GO AWAY unless you have something AMAZING to say!
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== MY EDITS WERE LEGITIMATE == Okay!????
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== hey idiot == you were the one that was repeatedly undoing MY edits. Go away, AND STOP VANDALISING!
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:Yes I tried but I went back to just patrolling the article for violations and revert warring again. Since Adam and a couple others seem to be hell bent on using there POV that article will never be right and NPOV. Even after my suggestions which were pretty good compaired to what has been there I still got slammed for it. Oh well blocking users is fun though )
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EACH YEAR THE PARK HOLDS A FESTIVAL IN DOWNTOWN NORTH LIBERTY.
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` == James Keys == He also wrote poems (23 Degrees of Paradise) and a (to my mind rather annoying) half-poem/half-prose piece about his views on the sexes called Only two can play at this game, both under the name James Keys. And there is also a document floating around (possibly never formally published? I'm not sure) in which several people (some of them, I believe, connected to Co-Evolution Quarterly, now Whole Earth Review) spent a few days with him in a Q&A; about some of his ideas that sit weirdly at the boundaries between math and mysticism. I've seen it, but I don't have a copy any more. I believe that somewhere in there, though, is one lovely quote: ``A mystic is not someone to whom everything is mysterious; a mystic is someone to whom everything is perfectly clear.`` Anyway, I'm not particularly interested in putting in time on this one, but this may provide some useful leads for those who are. In any event, I think Laws of Form has enough of a cult status to merit an article on him even if he is a bit of a crackpot. | `
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Also, to fail to make blindingly obvious is not to obscure.
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facing the direction of decipherment and
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I agree with and commend all of that, except for the phrase 'not symbols.' The clear truth of the matter is that most of us, East or West, who are cognizant of modern history and the use of symbols herein, would run a mile before agreeing to the use of swastikas/fylfots for our favorite social movement. The politically restrained people of contemporary China are somewhat in the unfortunate position indicated by the old saw 'Beggars can't be choosers.'
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restrained people of contemporary China are
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Re efficiency: 'ee' and 'oo' are efficient at conveying the pronunciation to the learner, in contrast to the discouraging, confused picture presented by the orthography of your own native tongue. Re modernity: you keep banging on about the fact that these spelling innovations owe their origin to the English Great Vowel Shift of about half a millenium ago. Who cares?! Surely you are like the oriental who fails to notice that our alphabet is more effective than his, and bangs on instead about an alleged 'debt to Rome'! I don't 'ignore that these spellings are typical for English,' it just doesn't concern me - they are also now typical for Manx!
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==Message== Hi! Man you just provoked me to tell that stupid messages about the holocaust and all the thing. Of course the Holocaust was a very very said thing. Why do you really like to stop other people opinions? I only told my opinion about the page of Iasi. A page about a city must promote that city and not to blame it for the past. I lived in a communist country and I do not like to be stopped to tell my opinion no matter who you are.
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:: Wow! You are the best, mate! Thanks a ton!!
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:I'm deleting it, per your suggestion. If true, it needs a source. And really should have a spoiler warning all its own. But since no source is offered, it must be considered either rumor or personal speculation and neither is worthy of inclusion. Chancemichaels
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` I dont agree with the ``suspicious`` claim, ``suspicious`` of what? However, ill try to do more as you suggested. `
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` :Oh...you may have put a fix up, but I don't know if this error is from the same place. Cheers. — `
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They have none. The users inserting such information are doing so only to satisfy their own personal agenda.
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` == Happy Spring celebration / Easter (as your preferences and beliefs dictate) == +: / ]]`
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It should also be of appropriate length, staying tightly focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary detail. But explaining how a state is founded... not exactly Wikipedia:Summary style. '''' 
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== Its my opinion == my opinions are my own, neither you nor anyone else can stifle them. What I wrote was not a personal attack in the slightest, please do not vandalize my userpage again.
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Metallurgy, 1976 ...
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:I'm not too involved in this debate, but I just noticed someone creating a page called Capital punishment/With wrongful killing rate. You can't really do that - create a new page with an awkward name just because consensus is against you on a different page. Shouldn't that be VfD'd?
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:Interesting, hadn't noticed that about your link. Goes to another user. Well you put it there! So I guess it will get noticed??
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` == Why the distortions and falsehoods being posted by anti-popper elements on this page == It's a shame that the anti-popper persons here are now growing even more bold in their posting of false information on this page. The continued posting of false information in the ``Disclaimers of manufacturers`` section is a case in point. No where in the popper dealer's web site does he have the words ``You Could Die: The abuse of these products can kill you.`` Yet, no matter how many times someone reverts this section to the actual content of the site, each time it is quickly reverted back to the false statements. Such inappropriate behavior by posters here is more than simply a disservice to wikipedia.`
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Thanks I'll definately check it out!
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==Cross-server links== I find the cross-server links are improperly marked up in many articles like missing opening colons. Is this a typo-epidemic? Or am I meddling with some kinda protocol here? I bothered to change some dozen links in Tamil_Nadu and United_Arab_Emirates
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Im still rejectnig the current branding of all alternativ theories with pejorative labels.
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==Next?== Here is some guy that belives there is a posibility of Pearl Harbor 3 being directed against the senate. links: , , . I dont agree with everyting that he wrote, and he doesnt have any evidence, but i thought it was intresting.
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with my reporting on a mainstream event that victimized a participant in a VERY IMPORTANT SUBCULTURE!
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` == Yay!! == Thank you so much!!!!!!!! - `
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== Apl.de.ap.? == What is Apl.de.ap. ?
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This song is featured in Dance Dance Revolution: 5th Mix. Worth mentioning?
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Yea I know nothing much has happened, I've been ill past few days unfortunately. When I feel up to it, I think I will go through the other non-articled storms and create their articles to the same formula I have used for the others, then go back and work to improve them further. I'm not sure what is the best way to present the season storm summary now, I wonder if we should drop the concept altogether. The pertinent things about, Katrina say, are in the other sections of the article. Maybe a table with links to the articles and the list is appropriate, say have storm name, intensity, countries affected, damages and deaths? By the way with the existence of the unnamed subtropical storm, I think Alpha has become utterly unnotable, Wilma was the record breaker after all.
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== WDWB-TV to WXON-TV? == It can happen. look at KUAM-TV and KUAM-LP...same call-signs, different suffixes.... of course, they may have to ask WXON-LP in Flint, Michigan for permission.
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This block is sudden, without prior discussion, clearly POV and political. Wikipedia is young, and falls prey to the underqualified; and the above contribution - 'If you wish to make useful contributions' - is redolent of a lack of research into the matter.
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I'm inclined to disagree with the advice given on the grounds that, regardless of 'experience of editing Wikipedia,' the fact is that I am repeatedly being blocked by callow, right-wing youths who happen to have got to the administrator position first. It definitely seems wrong to put specialist experience above experience of life, in this instance. Hopw do I 'self-nom,' anyway?
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either of a political, personal spite or
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For the record, my IP address (for the same PC I have been using all along) is now being given (by Wikipedia) as 212.100.250.208.
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` ::I could only guess, but his use of the expression ``liberating this article from the Communist Party of Wikipedia - verdad o muerte!`` does make one wonder. `
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Why does drmagc keep editing my comment? I believe she is pretty. Can I not say that?
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Also, I would still like to be informed as to why the following personal attack by an administrator against another user (i.e., other than myself) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tibet#Re:_Evaluation_of_PRC_rule remains undeleted.
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Alright, DRMAGIC, I am sorry. I will state here then that she is very pretty. I am sorry to offend you, Mr./ Ms. Opinion Censor. Allow me to bow and kiss your feet.
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::Not if you are working in the Homeland Security and happen to be named .
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::::Is there some logical flaw here ? Fortis's publication of Hasanaginica and Karadžić's misappropriation are not connected with Starčević's ideology. This user has some grave problems with logic.
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::::I did, then he proved that he did not act in good faith, so i stoped assuming something falsified.
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==Proof== I found this list , claiming no hijackers in it. What is the proof for any hijacker being in the planes?
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==lol== MONGO blocked me again! LOL! For my reminder: Karl Schwarz
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What did I say that was incorrect about the Sattelite Sisters? All my assertions were true.
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`==Hello== Hi. I am in the middle of a mediation between two users who have been having an edit war on the Mass to Charge Ratio page. Would you be interested in taking over for me as you are by far a more experienced person in the subject and it is a particularly technical area with which I am not familiar. I would most appreciate it, but you are by no means obligated. Thanks, `
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` == How rumours get started == Here is how rumours get started. Ramsquire is caught again starting a rumour. *RPJ: There is no chain of custody on the rifle. *Ramsquire: ``Yes there is.`` *RPJ: Where? *Ramsquire: ``Its not in the article.`` and ``I'm not going to do any research for you.`` *RPJ: Ramsquire, please, just admit you made the whole story up about a there being ``chain of custody`` on the rifle. `
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== response == i have added photographs and measurements to the flight 77 site, nothing more. these photos are vital for users of the site to make a fair and informed decision about the validity or otherwise of any 'conspiracies' (which i repeat I have not added any reference to). I am not a conspiracy theorist, I am interested only in the truth.
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Follow up: Oh boy... Ok so maybe my definition of force is different to yours. Lets put a different example on the table. Lets say person A is drugged by person B. Person C (who is unconnected to Person B) notices that Person A is intoxicated and decides to take advantage. Person C has not used any force but this is still a case of unconsensual sex. Lets say Person A is a bank. Person B goes into the bank A with a gun. Person C takes the money. Now did Person B rob the bank or Person C? Welcome to some parts of the legal system not totally fucked up. Nursing homes etc are a much more interesting subject, but also already covered by law. Assume the Kill Bill scenario. Someone's in a coma or otherwise KO. Now instead of raping (taking advantage, putting the wee wee into the hoo hoo, whatever you want to call it) he cuts the victim's hair in a really unfashionable way. Or amputates an arm. Whatever. Injury is done - thats an assault. Already covered by law, no need for weird anti-sex laws. c’mon how often do we see a need for an armed uprising in civilized society? RIGHT ABOUT NOW! VIVA LA REVOLUCION! FIGHT THE POWER! ETC! The argument I was making about where to carry the weapon was saying that if you have a gun in your handbag it is not going to help you much if you are jumped by your assailant. In fact it might encourage risky behaviour that could get you killed. So your argument is, a gun in your pocket is going to get you killed because... Uh-huh. You fail. But thanks for trying.
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== I am Sorry == Let's be freinds
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By that standard, I have been raped many many times. Bullshit? Of course. Did I just give in after S.O. nagged and begged? Yep. Should I get her a nice set of professional vibrators? You bet.
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Welcome Faggot! Welcome! Hello, , and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! 
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WELCOME, BITCH Welcome! Hello, , and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! 
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Welcome! Hello, , and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! 
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`Compare it to other pictures of Lee Oswald. Fabricating pictures was quite primitive in 1963. Look at another Oswald picture on the page. Which viewpoint does the reader believe? Is the ``Big Chin`` a sign of a fake or not? Gamaliel will now try to change the subject and won't directly discuss the ``Big Chin.`` :We've already discussed the Big Chin to death. It was one of many allegations of photo manipulation dismissed by the HSCA. You want to mention it as if 1) it was never debunked 2) it's the most important thing ever 3) it is proof of conspiracy. ::Gamaliel, none of the three things you just wrote make any logical sense. 1)Some believe the chin is not a fabrication. So what? This doesn't mean these true believers have ``debunked`` something. Its their opinion. The policy of this web site is to provide all opinions, and certainly not to hide the evidence. When are you going to understand this rule? 2) How important is it? It is relevant to Oswald's contention that some one was framing him. Whether that is the ``most important thing ever' is up to the reader. 3) Whether it is proof of a conspiracy is also up to the reader. Gamaliel, your frantic attempts to delete and hide any information that you disagree with is directly contrary to the web site rules. Why do you continue to do it? ::Don't forget, there were two Oswald's. Lee Oswald and Harvey Oswald. One worked for the CIA and was the real triggerman, I forget which... But wait a minute, the fatal shot really came from the grassy knoll, from an anti-Castro Cuban, who wanted payback, for no air-support for Brigade 2506, during the Bay of Pigs disaster... No wait a minute Oswald was a paid hitman for the mafia...... oh well It's 3:37 in the AM, all this conspiracy stuff is making me loopy. Goodnight. :: :::Gamaliel, is this person above who calls himself ``Mytwocents`` your alter ego, and put in for comic relief? ==Web site rules of inclusion of all significant viewpoints== ::::The evidence of the fabricated photograph is a significant viewpoint that was discussed in the HSCA report. Some experts believe it shows fabricationsome don't. Under the rules of this web site all significant viewpoints should be presented. *Claiming that someone else disagrees with a significant viewpoint on a subject is not a ground for excluding it from the article. *Arguing it is not the ``most important thing ever`` is not a ground for excluding the view point that the photographs are fabrications. *Arguing that evidence that the photographs were fabricated is evidence of a conspiracy, is not a ground for excluding the evidence. Gentlemen. These are basic web site rules. ==Leave this article in a readable state== Don't leave after every goddamn sentence in a paragraph. Use one tag; . Free free to argue about content, but make sure the current content is at least readable. I have just fixed a couple of paragraphs; I'm about to go after any others. ::You should control your anger. Content that is both controversial and unreferernced should be taken out. Do that instead. :::Control my anger? What are you talking about? I'm not in a position to verify either way - I just want to make sure that the article is readable for the users. ==This article is not neutral== Surely it's not the job of Wikipedia contributors to decide whether or not Oswald worked alone, was part of a conspiracy or had anything to do with the assassination at all. It seems to me that the only way of rendering a neutral article is to state that Oswald was arrested and held on suspicion of Kennedy's murder, but was killed before he could be tried. It can then be provably stated that the Warren Commission, in its Report, concluded that Oswald was guilty and had worked alone, but that there have since been many efforts and arguments that attempt to disprove this conclusion. It's not our business to decide what really happened, which is what some people here are trying to do. We are here to report on and check verifiable facts, not persuade peop
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I'm sorry but this barely deserves its own article. Any thoughts?
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Peer reviewing doesn't mean much if all your peers are lunatics also. And anyone who disagrees is branded a crank. But I'm happy with the way the entry stands at the moment since the obvious propagandizing and speculative stuff isn't in it anymore. I will be watching out to see if it creeps back in. I find what you are saying about Bellamy hard to believe. You got a reference for that? The fellow at Cato is Patrick Michaels. Who would have been branded a crank by lunatics already no doubt. CO2 release is the greatest externality the world had yet seen. A warmer earth is an earth with less extreme weather events. A colder earth is a dryer nastier more inhospitable place. But all that being said the article looks now to be in good order.
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:Will work on it later. Just got back after a mini-vacation. \ \
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I'm not sure, but is this the Jewel of Affection that allows the charisma or charm enchancement in AD&D;?
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==Some Starčević's sources in his polemic agains Greater Serbian ideology== Ancient historiography: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/De_Administrando_Imperio On Croats ......... But the Croats at that time were dwelling beyond Bavaria, where the Belocroats are now. From them split off a family of five brothers, Kloukas and Lobelos and Kosentzis and Mouchlo and Chrobatos, and two sisters, Touga and Bouga, who came with their folk to Dalmatia and found the Avars in possession of that land. After they had fought one another for some vears, the Croats prevailed and killed some of the Avars and the remainder they compelled to be subject to them. And so from that time this land was possessed by the Croats, and there are still in Croatia some who are of Avar descent and are recognized as Avars. The rest of the Croats stayed over against Francia, and are now called Belocroats, that is, white Croats, and have their own prince ; they are subject to Otto, the great king of Francia, or Saxony, and are unbaptized, and intermarry and are friendly with the Turks. From the Croats who came to Dalmatia a part split off and possessed themselves of Illyricum and Pannonia ; they too had a sovereign prince, who used to maintain friendly contact, though through envoys only, with the prince of Croatia. For a number of years the Croats of Dalmatia also were subject to the Franks, as they had formerly been in their own country ; but the Franks treated them with such brutality that they used to murder Croat infants at the breast and cast them to the dogs. The Croats, unable to endure such treatment from the Franks, revolted from them, and slew those of them whom they had for princes. On this, a large army from Francia marched against them, and after they had fought one another for seven years, at last the Croats managed to prevail and destroyed all the Franks with their leader, who was called Kotzilis. From that time they remained independent and autonomous,.... .................. These baptized Croats will not fight foreign countries outside the borders of their own ; for they received a kind of oracular response and promise from the pope of Rome who in the time of Heraclius, emperor of the Romans, sent priests and baptized them. For after their baptism the Croats made a covenant, confirmed with their own hands and by oaths sure and binding in the name of St. Peter the apostle, that never would they go upon a foreign country and make war on it, but rather would live at peace with all who were willing to do so ; and they received from the same pope of Rome a benediction to this effect, that if any of the pagans should come against the country of these same Croats and bring war upon it, then might the God of the Croats fight for the Croats and protect them, and Peter the disciple of Christ give them victories. ............... Again, Symeon sent another army against prince Zacharias, under Kninos and Himnikos and Itzboklias, and together with them he sent also Tzeeslav. Then Zacharias took fright and fled to Croatia, and the Bulgarians sent a message to the 'zupans' that they should come to them and should receive Tzeeslav for their prince ; and, having tricked them by an oath and brought them out as far as the first village, they instantly bound them, and entered Serbia and took away with them the entire folk, both old and young, and carried them into Bulgaria, though a few escaped away and entered Croatia ; and the country was left deserted. Now, at that time these same Bulgarians under Alogobotour entered Croatia to make war, and there they were all slain by the Croats. On Serbs ........ But when two brothers succeeded their father in the rule of Serbia, one of them, taking a moiety of the folk, claimed the protection of Heraclius, the emperor of the Romans, and the same emperor Heraclius received him and gave him a place in the province of Thessalonica to settle in, namely Serbia, which from that time has acquired this denomination. 'Serbs' in the tongue of the Romans is the word for 'slaves', whence the colloquial 'serbula' for menial shoes, and 'tzerboulianoi' for those who wear cheap, shoddy footgear. This name the Serbs acquired from their being slaves of the emperor of the Romans. Now, after some time these same Serbs decided to depart to their own homes, and the emperor sent them off. But when they had crossed the river Danube, they changed their minds and sent a request to the emperor Heraclius, through the military governor then governing Belgrade, that he would grant them other land to settle in. And since what is now Serbia and Pagania and the so-called country of the Zachlumi and Terbounia and the country of the Kanalites were under the dominion of the emperor of the Romans, and since these countries had been made desolate by the Avars (for they had expelle
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:I did have a problem with the same guy being plaintif, judge and jury, twice, the first time not even bothering to follow protocol - i did not take him seriously, just laughed at his second block and belived that he would get away with it a second time, being all three, only since im so impopular - however, at the same time, i considered that if there was any real justification for his actions, a third party would do the same. And that is what you did. Not only are you a third party that seemingly agrees with his desicion, you also have passionatly defended my works against people like him on several occasions. Therefore, i respect you and take your advice with the highest respect. :I would request you to help me in this mater, and if you percive me violating WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA again, then please (1) notify me, (2) give me a explanation of how i did it and (3) how i should have done it, and i will (1) retract my statment, whadever it may be, (2) rephrace it and (3) ask for an apology to the victim of my error. :As for MONGO, he is on the far opposite side of where you stand in my view. I whold have a promblem seeing him having right, even if he was right for once.
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What's a troll? Somone whose not a lying leftist parasite like you? Always remember. You are not a scientist. You are a public tit science worker. I can see you are not up to coming up with any evidence for your ridiculous level of certitude in these matters. I thought you people had rules against useless idiots like Willian insulting people. You want to get rid of some of your dead wood
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I went to the first link on Bellamy. And its about him being persecuted by lunatics. So you wouldn't wonder that he would be intimidated into a retraction. So its full spectrum lunacy here. Trying to control the Wiki. Intimidating scientists who disagree with you. A major cult movement. Which is not to say that his comments on glaciers weren't way out of date and wrong. If indeed he did make them. What happens is that these leftists will follow people around taking notes of every last thing they say. And then if they make one mistake then that's a hanging offence. Shame on the scientists for giving this fellow such a hard time. This is what science has come to. A Priesthood with its own star chamber. And parasites like William here declaring Bellamy a non-scientist. The impudence
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` *That's simple, you have placed a possible copyright warning upon that page. I do not know why you did that. Personally, I am not sure that the information is subject to sopyright due to it being placed on a wiki site & therefore the copyright (if there is one) could belong to several users & since it is freely edited, can there be a copyright? Having read the information on the Lostpedia site, I found this text... ``The license Wikipedia uses grants free access to our content in the same sense as free software is licensed freely. This principle is known as copyleft. That is to say, Wikipedia content can be copied, modified, and redistributed so long as the new version grants the same freedoms to others and acknowledges the authors of the Wikipedia article used (a direct link back to the article satisfies our author credit requirement). Wikipedia articles therefore will remain free forever and can be used by anybody subject to certain restrictions, most of which serve to ensure that freedom. To fulfill the above goals, the text contained in Wikipedia is licensed to the public under the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). The full text of this license is at Wikipedia:Text of the GNU Free Documentation License.`` Since the text used on that site is licensed to the public & Wikipedia content can be copied, modified, and redistributed so long as the new version grants the same freedoms to others, I feel that just placing a link to the original article at the bottom of the page would remedy this. Agreed? - `
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`::::1. Croats had, according to the DAI, been a fighting folk who subdued Avars, repelled Franks and saved Serbs from Bulgarian captivity ::::2. Serbs were a docile folk who, essentially, didn't fight ``their place under the sun``. Their very name signified servitude of a sort, as evidenced by the DAI's etymology. They lost every battle with foreigners they ever fought, placed themselves under Byzantine suzerainty amd were saved from extinction by Croats who crushed Bulgarian aggression ::::3. there are historical documents galore, which testify about Croatian legal, parliamentary and cultural continuity: from the times of Trpimir and Krešimir to the later corpora. ::::4. Croatian language heritage in the vernacular is well attested in from the 13th century on (at least). They Croatian name is explicitly mentioned in various sources, both Čakavian and Štokavian, particularly in Dalmatia, Dubrovnik and Bosnia. Moreover, linguistic characteristics are the same as with contemporary (mid-19th century) Croatian language. On the other hand, Serbian written works, up until Dositej and Vuk (1780-1820), were written exclusively in Church Slavic language. Serbian literature until Vuk is, essentially, a variant of Church Slavic literature flourishing in Byzantium influenced area. Hence-Vuk's linguistic pan-Serbism, which tried to appropriate all štokavian vernacular literature is, evidently, a falsity and concoction. ::::5. early Slavic studies (Šarařik et al.) were deluded in ascribing parts of the Croatian literature to the Serbian heritage. ::::6. Serbian ethnic affiliation, in modern terms, is a relatively new phenomenon in Croatia. The major part of Eastern Orthodox inhabitants of Croatia, who actively participated in the Croatian cultural life (Illyrian movemont) have begun to show Serbian national allegiance only in recent (1850s) years. ::::Virtually all Starčević's claims are corroborated by historical sources available at his times. Whether the veracity of historical sources like the DAI can withstand the test of time-this is another question. But, from the vantage point of mid-19th century clash of Serbian and Croatian ideologies, Starčević polemic stands as an example of skilled, sometimes sardonic and always truthful debate-without distortions, lies or misappropriations. Sarcasm hurts-but, this is what the polemic is all about. `
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Well PKtm, I am perfectly willing to have a civil discussion on it as I feel we are doing. All of my past reverts have contained this information from Lostpedia. The information is not solely from that site, it is also from this one. I have created a solution to this discussion. The wonderful thing about Wikipedia is that these changes can always be removed if a concensus is not reached. As the current concensus is at a stalemate I have taken the appropriate actions. I am in discussions with regards to the possible copyright infringement, but seeing as Lostpedia currently has no copyright guidelines, I agree this may take some time. I apologise if you feel that this solution is creating more problems but it was not my intention to create them. However, I feel that my creation of this new page is an amecable solution with regards to both points of the current discussion -
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Keep your Racism and Bigotry out of Wikipedia Please
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== Aspergers and Dysgraphia == It was noticed that there is nothing in the articles about Aspergers writing issues. There is a large majority of people who have difficulty writing and may have dysgraphia, I am one of them. I found an article that supports my idea and added it to a sub category under characteristics. If you can try to expand it instead of deleting it. I know that this information is new and a working progre but I feel that it is important contribution to the article. Please fill free to comment on this issue.
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, 17 April 2006 (UTC) That's an excellent edit by David Justin. 17:26
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Well I'm happy to refrain from these attacks. But I retain the right to retaliate. As you know William had a shot at me first. Calling me a troll. Totally unacceptable and I hope he's been warned too. In fact it would have been better to inform me that he'd been warned. The other thing I found unacceptable is earlier when he tried to pretend David Bellamy wasn't a scientist.
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* Simple, just read above for the reason I created the second page. I included the Lostpedia information due to it's conciseness. The information in the Danielle topic needs cleaning up & rewriting into a less synoptic format. That information does that -
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Well that's fine. I'm happy with that. But why is his personal insult of me still there?
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== Rename to Finnish morphology == I suggest this article is renamed to Finnish morphology, with a separate article on syntax.
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As the article stands (this second) I can't bring myself to edit it any further. But its still pushing one way, pretending the evidence is out there that the 38 million year ice age is over (praise be). Well that would be great news if true but the level of certainty sometimes expressed in this direction is quite inappropriate. I would like to see the reasoning behind this with all workings shown. Here is a few scientists you might check for balance:Sallie L. Baliunas, Robert C. Balling Jr, Randall S. Cerveny, John Cristy, Robert E. Davis, Oliver W. Frauenfeld, Ross Mckitrick, Patrick J Michaels, Eric S Posmentier, Willie Soon.
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Thats not really feasible because there are so many different AAC and MP3 encoders, and so many different samples to use. At the moment, the two formats are essentially tied at 128k and above, with AAC becoming increasingly dominate at lower bitrates as the sheer technical advantage overwhelms MP3.
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Just for the record, the $58 dollar seed program in my opinion, plant the seed.. tend the garden, and make the preparations so preparatation will meet oppertunity. Most of the time the $58 dollar seed is only the start of the work needed to make a blessing happen. Except for cases of Miracles. Presupposing the blessing required is not cancelled out due to past mistake or curse for a previous failure to obey.
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OK. Fine. But don't be changing it back. Since no question its inaccurate to claim that the current warming is TOTALLY human-induced. And remember I've got two more edits up my slave and will have three more tommorrow
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::I am an Azeri too and I have never ever considered myslef a Turk. The Republic of Azerbaijan was a part of Iran and it will become a part of Iran again. MOst the people here who pretend to be Azeris are actually from Turkey trying to spread their Turkush propganada. Real Azeris are Iranians!!!!!
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Melina is more than ready to go to RAW and compete for the WWE Women's Championship. They need someone like Candice to go to Smackdown and get some more training rather than have her on RAW knowing she can't wrestle! When Melina becomes Women's Champion, she will bne a force to be reckoned with, and will probably be the most Women's Champion we have had in a long while!
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Her atyle is very reminiscent to Jazz
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More good information: *The Physicians’ Ad Hoc Coalition for Truth (PHACT) a group of over 600 physician-specialists (mostly in obstetrics, perinatology, and related disciplines) has spoken out to dispute claims that some women need partial-birth abortions to avoid serious physical injury. PHACT said: “We, and many other doctors across the United States, regularly treat women whose unborn children suffer these and other serious conditions. Never is the partial-birth procedure medically indicated. Rather, such infants are regularly and safely delivered live, vaginally, with no threat to the mother's health or fertility.” In September, 1996, former Surgeon General C. Everett Koop and other PHACT members said that “partial-birth abortion is never medically necessary to protect a mother's health or her future fertility. On the contrary, this procedure can pose a significant threat to both.” *In May, 1997, the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act (then H.R. 1122) was endorsed by the American Medical Association. In a letter to Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), AMA Executive Vice President P. John Seward, M.D., wrote, “Thank you for the opportunity to work with you towards restricting a procedure we all agree is not good medicine.”
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` - Changed ``..after the marines..`` to read ``...after the merchant marines...`` Marines is a the term for the US Marine Corp, not the US Merchant Marine who are refered to as ``merchant mariners``.`
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It seems like there's good info on Mr. Minaya on the web (for example, this page), but all of it is in Spanish, a language I do not speak. If someone with that ability could expand this stub a bit, I'd be grateful. -
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The book credits I added were from the catalog for the Library of Congress; there may be others out there. -
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::Kurds are an Iranian people if you discuss the sources they are applying closeness and proximity to other ethnic groups within the Iranian peoples.
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:::Firstly user:Karaman your stats are fake and untrue and if you want I paste sources which show quiet the oppose. Iran has a higher standard of living according to Human Development Indexes and Socio-Economic figures, but this is an article on Azeris. Secondly I am an Azeri and so were the editors you insulted they were Azeris too. Please understand that we are not Turks as has been proven through our culture, history, and scientific genetic testing. We only speak a mixed Turkic language. We are Iranians. As for culture even Turkey's culture is Iranian or Iranic.
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== the batman kid == anyone know who this little brat is that posted garbage under storyline? ive tried to edit the page to clean it up, but it isnt displaying as part of the page, although ti clearly is there.
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` I'm not a big fan of compromise or ``Middle way`` strategies. Now, what do you really want an answer to? I mean, like, pick one thing. The problem is that your methodology of thinking appears fundamentally flawed. I cannot correct every single one of your flawed thoughts, which is what you seem to expect from me. If you pick one issue and compare my thoughts on the subject to your own, you may be able to figure out where, fundamentally, our schools of thought diverge. You need to find the underlying logic that we do not agree on, anything else is just a waste of time, even when it's fun to ridicule you. `
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