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`Hi ! Welcome to Wikipedia. -) When you have some time to read through them, these pages may help you. *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style If you need to ask any questions, just ask on . One last thing: when leaving comments on talk pages, sign them by putting four tildes (~~~~) at the end. Enjoy your time at Wikipedia -). ] `
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== HAHAHAHAHAH == U CANT STOP ME LOLOLOLOL
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:::It was done incorrectly, only today, and is thus not fully standardised to American English. Please cease reverting to a nonstandardised format.
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==John Cena's wrestling abilities== John Cena is the worst in ring performer that I have ever seen, and quite possibly the most ridiculous champion the WWE has ever had! Firstly, he has no variation to his moveset, and aas the ECW crowd rightly said at One Night StandSAME OLD SHIT! Its not like the moves he has are even good, for hi to continue using them. Although Cena is a good entertainer, quite frankly he is the worst wrestler I have seen in my life, and as for him having a World Title reignI think it is absolutely preposterous. He shouldn't even be in the WWEOVW should suit his mediocre, half baked, sloppy wrestling style better. ( )
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#:I'm somewhat confused. — |
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` == Humor? Something needs to be done with this article... ;-) == Hi, CSTAR! Of course, you are a great humorist, but something needs to be done in this situation. Those guys (Zarniwoot and FCZenz) are plain stupid. It seems, they still do not understand that this was only a demonstration of force. They do not understand, that, for example, we can spread the attack to much more articles. Fighting with us, Zarniwoot and FCZenz break WP policy all the time and, possibly, cause more damage here than we. Recently, SCZenz blocked an IP-address of an independent person. Crazy guy! (How many other innocent people have he blocked already?) I left him a message about that and a notice that the article Introduction to quantum mechanics was already attacked two times without reversion and was already edited by three (!!!) people. That was the article that was defended already! Instead of recognition that he is unable to defend even several articles here, he just removed my post from the page, so that other people could not see, how stupid he is. (That happened already several times.) For what reason do we need such a crazy administrators here? They hurt WP more than help! How can be they so stupid? Do not they realize yet that WP works because most people want to make the world better, not because admins fight here with ``bad`` guys?`
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== Col legno == I was wrong; the description is actually in some other article (Playing the violin?). So maybe there could be an inter-article link to that section. There's a whole list of bowing techniques described there, or somewhere. Yes, it's here. ==
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Please do not remove content from Wikipedia; it is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. , (UTC)
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` ==Removed== The following were removed from the list of known demon lords by because they were traditionally more gods than demon lords: *Doresain, King of Ghouls: Demigod. Libris Mortis p 16 *Shami-Amourae: Queen of succubi. Mentioned in Dungeon #5, ``The Stolen Power``, page 27.`
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` Not true. I worked for a coal mining company in the Appalachia coal region, so I know first hand. Unfortunately in the areas with coal reserves, there is not much economy. Many people work in the mines because there is not many other jobs. Not to mention, miners are paid relatively well. The average miner makes approx $50,000 annually in KY/WV. In a region with very little economy other than coal production, this is not bad. Also, these men and women are making a decent salary, and college education is not required. I will concede that the conditions these people work in are not ideal though. But the stuff you read about and the ``documetaries`` about how mine owners/corporations take advantage of their employees is simply propaganda.`
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:I just took care of it. :
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== What's up my nigger? == Promoting yourself on Wikipedia is a bad idea. You should probably go somewhere else. Maybe you could post some hand-drawn posters in your ghetto?
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==Stub?== I note that this article has the stub tag at the bottom, although it seems pretty well established to me. If nobody objects, I'm going to remove the tag.
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== Country-music collaboration == You supported [[]], which has been selected as WikiProject Country Music's next Collaboration. Please help improve this article to featured-article standards.
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==Re:Your recent edit to Triple H== My edit was not vandalism, I was trying to update a current event and was trying to type it fast enough. Don't call me a vandal again.
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` ==To Tha Undertaker== If you want to promote yourself, get a space on MySpace.com. You stand a better chance at getting a record deal that way. No one in the music business is going to see this. Seriously. You're wasting your time on Wikipedia. :Yeah, and good luck with your career. Stay out of trouble. ==Tha Undertaker== Tha Undertaker(born Jeremiah Jahi-James Jones on December 6,1988 in Detroit, Michigan), is an American rapper. He's currently signed to K.I.G. Records an independent Detroit based label out of Detroit. Contents [hide] 1 Biography 2 Disputes 3 Mixtapes 4 External links Biography Jones was raised on Detroit's westside,is the second youngest of 11 children, which he stayed with his mother Bridget Scott and her children, older sister Marquetta and younger brother Joshua. At age of 8 Jones became affiliated with the Pierson Block Bloods on Detroit's westside. A few months later he and family moved to Detroit's eastside where he still currently resides. He brung his street mentality with him which had lead to trouble down the line. In June 2003, he was stabbed twice and cut several times after being involved in a fight earlier that year with former Detroit Giants teammates at a skating party at Skating Land. (Visible marks include scar under left eye and on left hand). Jones was then arrested in June of 2005 for an attempted robbery at Eastland Mall, arrested in January of 2006 for a physical altercation at a party after a drug-deal that went wrong in which Jones thought he was short on money he had received in the deal. After his arrest in Eastland he began to rap and in late January of 2006 gave In March of 2006 he signed an independent deal with K.I.G. Records and will release the mixtape ``Detroit's Most Wanted Vol.1`` on May 25, 2006. Disputes Underataker has publicly stated that he does not like and is currently beefing with fellow rappers Bow Wow, Fat Joe, Lil Flip, Ja Rule and unsigned rapper Maine Da Young Wonder because of public response made by those rapper in which angered Jones. He has been on recored as calling them pop stars and will address the situation on a track off of the mixtape ``Detroit's Most Wanted``, entitled ``200 Shots and Runnin.`` A 10-minuted diss track aimed at those rappers and rumored more artists. Mixtapes Detroit's Most Wanted Vol.1 External Links: www.kigrecords.zoomshare.com == who is this person == Is he worthy of a wikipedian article? :Probably not, but he's flying under the radar and the powers that be haven't noticed yet.`
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== Thanks! == Appreciate clearing the vandalism from my user page. -
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`Flight 93== ==Foreknowledge== ===Alleged Insider Trading=== ===Foreign Government Warnings=== If 9/11 was a conspiracy by the U.S. government, why would we be receiving warnings from foreign countries? | It is important to keep in mind that many of the 9/11 warnings were much to vague to be actionable. | ==`
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Bin Laden and his 19 so-called hijackers were patsies.
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`=Alnami=== The living Ahmed Alnami 10 years older than dead terrorist Alnami; 33 from Riyadh [UK Telegraph] vs. 23 from Asir [Washington Post]. | ==`
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All I did was post an unsourced article. Pleanty of other people have done that. It deserves to be discussed.
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` Look, I am a proud former US Marine, so I am as against ``Terrorisim`` as anyone. I don not consider the IRA ``Terrorists`` in the same vein as Al Qaida, HAMAS or Hezbollah, or for that matter the UVF or UDA. The reason for thuis, is that unlike all these other groups, the VAST majority of IRA victims have been Soldiers, Police or Loyalist terrorists. Having said that, I have never once put any bias into either the PIRA or INLA articles. The fact is that ``Lost Lives``, British Rights Watch, the US State Dept. and Janes Intelligence, ALL, quote the same numbers and figures I have for both the IRA and INLA. The difference between you and I, is that I use multiple sources, where as you use 1 source. CAIN is a estimate of figures, which are disputed by all the other aforementioned sources. You can't keep reverting a page, just because you are unaware of a siurce, or because it doesen't fit in with your personal beliefs. CNN just had a whole article on how schools are not allowing students in High School and Mid School to use Wikipedia for report's, because Wikipedia has so many articles with factual errors. this isn't the fault of Wikipedia, but of people such as yourself, who are either to lazy, to biased or to arrogant to allow for facts to be presented that conflict with your own views. For example. The Council On Foreign Relations (a highly admired US think tank), says the following under the group ``Loyalist Paramilitaries`` FAQ. ``Have the loyalist groups targeted civilians? Yes—and more frequently than the IRA. Between 1968 and 1998, loyalist paramilitaries killed an estimated 864 civilians (most of them Catholic), compared with an estimated 528 civilians (most of them Protestant) killed by the IRA. Experts say loyalist groups have often acted out of religious hatred, while the IRA has more often targeted British security officers—killing more than 1,000 of them—in an effort to further its political goal of ejecting the British from Northern Ireland`` . (end) That is from a highly regarded source, and also Jane's intelligence, British Rights Watch, and ``Lost Lives`` give the exact same number of IRA innocent victims vs UDA/UVF/LVF victims. I put this in the article and properly sourced it, yet it has been continually reverted by you to claim that the IRA has killed more innocent civillians then ``any other group in Northern reland``. That is just factually wrong. Even CAIN research shows that the Loyalist groups have killed more civillians then the IRA. The above mentioned sources also give almost identical numbers to the Number of overall IRA victims, and breaks them down into Soldier, SAS, Police, UDR, UDA/UVF/LVF and so on. The number of IRA/Sinn Fein or INLA members killed by Loyalist groups is given at 45 in total from 1969-2001. Of this number 20 were Sinn Fein, 10 were IRA and 15 were INLA. The number of UDA/UVF/LVF and other loyalist terrorists killed by the IRA and INLA is given as 110. 90 are attributed to the IRA from 1969-1998, and 20 are attributed to the INLA from 1976-2001. Those are the numbers, I didn't make them up, if you have issue with them, go complain to the above sources. For these figures to not be included in the PIRA and INLA articles is an insult to the work I did trying to find all of them, from such different sources. I have made a concerted effort to not delete any of your information, I have added to it, but not removed anyhting....all I ask is the same courtesey.`
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Here is proof of notability Calton has aimed his delete gun at this entry, so here is notability proof to stop him: USA Today (you know..that BIG newspaper) story: Wow look here, the USO (you know..that BIG Government organization) sent Mallory Lewis and Lambchop to WELCOME HOME THE TROOPS: Lookey here the US AIRFORCE (you know, those men and women who protect the USA) had Ms. Lewis and Lambchop visit Kadena airforce base...wow...if the US Airforce sends you somewhere that doesn't make you notable? Maybe in someone's sick anti-american mind. But enough from me....
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== Neutrino Mass vs Gravity Question == I'm sure I missed something somewhere but, how is it that neutrinos are virtually unaffected by gravitational fieldseven though they have mass?
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==WHAT== First you warn me for something I fell I have not done. You have no right to warn me. You vandalised my page so I warned you. You have an attitude problem about things and need to stop thinking you are so powerfull but your really not. You powerfull and everything, but um, your really not. so STOP vandalising my page for GOD SAKES!
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` :Please research the edit history before accusing anyone of ``intolerance``. There can be no petty vilifications in an encyclopedia. That is why if you look at the history of the edits it was me who also erased the above-mentioned petty statements in the reform section. shykee`
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== When tears come down like fallin' rain / you'll walk around and call my name / you'll wlak the floor the way I do / your cheatin' heart will tell on you ==
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—The preceding unsigned comment was added by • .
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June 2006 (UTC) 7 16:14, 13
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The National Records say he was born in 1951.
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== Clarification == 1. The Myrtle Beach Thunderboltz was a proposed team that never saw the light of day. The Conway team will be different. 2. Ontario, California will probably get a team in 2007. 3. Reno is getting another new arena, and the Raiders will begin play there in 2007. Thanks! 11:06 CDT 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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` Hey man! What is your problem? Why are you such a frickin jerk! Did you not get your answer to your question on the discussion page on ``lu sheng-yen``? Some neutral person changed the site so everyone agreed and you who dont know the situation well came and changed it! Do you feel better about yourself now that everyone else feels bad that you changed it? Were you not satisfied? Why do you care that much? Why cant you just let us have peace? Stop being such a jerk!`
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:Hi Niall / , :There appears to be some consensus on that page that commercial links can be included (and there is nothing specifically against commercial links at the relevant guideline). However, the point of external links is to provide further information for the readers (they are even labelled as such in the Automatic number plate recognition article). Clearly in many cases, some of the larger commercial companies hold more extensive and authoritative information about the technology on their websites than can be included here. However I could not see that the link you inserted provided this additional information. The link appeared to have been inserted only to promote the company - and this is not what the links are for. I'd encourage you to study the external links guidelines and spam policies further - inserting links to your own company is especially frowned upon. Please understand this is not about the size of the companies or the profit they make, but the size of the information they offer in relation to what can be included in Wikipedia articles.
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If you wanna discuss this like adults then feel free to email me at lukeking3@hotmail.com
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Let me get this straight, now you're following me on here. You're blocked, one more edit.
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...another reason to do it this way is people often object to FACs with foreign language links.
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sumget labour out and the bnp in mary
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` ==THE USED WORDS OPENLY MAKE THIS ARTICLE A VERY BIASED ONE== I would like the person who wrote the line that ``an increasing number(!) of Turkish intellectuals`` support the genocide THAT HE SHOW SOME REFERENCE and PROOF. Also the SO-CALLED fact that over a million Armenians are killed IS A VERY DUBIOUS ONE AND REQUIRES SOME PROOF. WHAT MAKES WIKIPEDIA, WIKIPEDIA IS THE FACT THAT EVEN IN THE CASE OF A TRAGEDY AS IMMENSE AS 9/11, IT PRESERVES ITS NEUTRALITY. HOW CAN YOU CALL THIS ARTICLE NEUTRAL IF IT SMELLS HEAVILY BIASED? For example the VERY IMPORTANT START PARAPGRAPH SHOULD BE MODIFIED LIKE , SAY `` It is also alleged that over a million Armenians were killed during the relocation etc....`` OTHERWISE; you have to show immediate references or supporting articles, proofs etc. I would like to receive those proofs, if this is really a documented proof, I very much would like to read them. PLEASE REFER TO SOME RESPECTED ENCYCLOPEDIA LIKE BRITTANICA ABOUT THE SO-CALLED ARMENIAN GENOCIDE, TO SEE WHAT NEUTRALITY REALLY MEANS ! No academic research , conducted in Turkish Republic, ever denies the fact that ``MANY`` Armenians were killed during the relocation but ``A MILLION`` IS REALLY A BAD EXAGGERATE. Just because there are some PUNKS ( Do they call themselves System of Something? ) who make their homeland's propaganda, does not mean that you can falsify the history. PLEASE REFER TO THE RESPECTED HISTORIANS( MANY OF THEM ARE NOT TURKISH) WHO DENY THE SO-CALLED GENOCIDE... I WOULD LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO CONTROL THIS SITE, CHANGE THESE BIASED LINES IMMEDIATELY. `
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Shamir to Diderot alias Moshe alias etc etc: Please note: 1. you are too emotionally involved with Jewish subjects, and in the interests of Wikipedia you should stay away from this article as well as from others on this theme. 2. You and your alter egos with various names did the same amount of reverts. 3. Do you claim there are different sets of rules for philosemites and for the rest? 4. I wonder why do you insist, for instance, to keep me in a different church? Shamir
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Welcome! Hello, , and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! 
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You can't get away from the FACT that CT is in the NY/NJ/CT tri-state area that is to be found on this site and Boston IS NOT a hub for CT - period!
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Welcome! Hello, , and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  -
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` :I am no longer interested in changing the prose in this article. Now all I am trying to accomplish is alphabetizing the words before and following ``and`` and ``or``. I done this for an exceptional amount of time. is constantly reverting this edit without a good explanation and writes in her edit summaries So it's an obsession. What's your point? What are your obsessions doing in article space?: that is not a good reason to revert one's edits. Additionally, the deaths of Andrée's companions are not listed alphabetically, but also not listed by who was born first, which is why I switched the positioning of the two. Bishonen needs to halt such misconduct as WP:OWN because simply trying to make an article more precise is not blockable behaviour. If we have to go through this again, I will take this to WP:AN/I. — | `
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` ==Guys...`` Don't you get it? This is a school system. We all have the same IP address. We have a primary, intremediate, middle, and high school. There would be a lot of people who would vandalise Wikipedia. `
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` Whom do you cheat? If you were not emotionally involved you would move to deal with something else. Analysis of your contributions shows that you are obsessed with fighting for Jewish cause. As for your remark ``Is the Israel Shamir article a ``Jewish subject``? I thought he was a Christian.`` it is disingenious at best, sneaking at worst.`
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Tawkerbot2|Tawkerbot2]] 23:43, 10 June
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` ::::Ah, so you admit your violation to WP:OWN. And Bunchofgrapes little biased ``support`` (based on... well, we all know what) is simply amusing. But... then, seeing how you expect to be treated like a queen and that whatever you say goes: no. This is not your article. You do not have the rights to decide what is ``trolling`` and all of this bullsh*t. Learn your lesson, wise up, and start respecting the decisions of others. You are not the only person in this world, and you are also not anybody such as Queen Elizabeth, who would certainly rid of your rudeness without argument. ::::I have no interest in enhancing this article any further. Let it weep all that it wants. And enough of the email-is-perfect-let's-sock conversations. I am done with you, I am done with you, I am done with you. This is history. Thank God. — | `
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::This represents your immaturity and consistence at disruptive behaviour. — |
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article, we can still source the material, and keep on looking for online text
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:Well done. I think my level of input was negligible, but thanks anyway.
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` == Deleted most ``Plame`` info == As this page is running way to long and we now know Rove did nothing he was accused of, I re-wrote the ``plame`` section as a one or two paragraph sub-story with a link to Plame Affair. This is supposed to be a personal bio, not an information dump `
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` == The EU A 'German Ploy'? == This might be worth mentioning in this article: many people in Eastern Europe (and elsewhere [i.e. France, Russia, those Europeans countries that refuse to join, many others]) believe that the European Union is nothing more than a 'German ploy' to 'control' Europe both politically and economically (given that Germany is the most economically powerful and populous member of the EU). They say that the success of the EU obliquely fulfills the Third Reich's burning desire for Germany to become ``The Undisputed Masters of Europe.`` Should this hypothesis be included in the article or simply written off as a deluded conspiracy theory? `
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Vandals Why are do people like Adolphus79 and TruthbringerToronto think they have the power to remove things from this site just because they do not want to believe it happened. They were not there they do not know what happened. They just do not share the ideals of the leaders.
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I created this page for the specific reason of having a link to the main site of K.F.A. so people could be educated about it if you went to corpus you would have known about it everyone did ( )
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== Salvation == Do not worry you are but a lost lamb the Lord will forgive you.
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` I already added the citations that were needed. Some places said ``Citation needed`` when there is no possible way to provide one. And note to Musicpvm (or whatever your name is), if you are such the expert on the English language then why can't you correct the crap yourself?`
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` == ``Vandalism`` == ... Do you even read summaries? Wikistress +10 for me! I removed it because - I AM DAMNED REPEATING THIS THE FOURTH TIME - it's like saying on the banana article that ``some people add bananas to their cakes and bring them to weddings. Bananas are said to be delicious!`` or on the Sun article that ``many people tend to lay on beaches and tan themselves on the sun.`` ARGH. Caaptaain Caav.. OBVIOUS! Jesus Christ, Wikipedia needs less conservatism.. how stupid it is to mention that there ``is clan-gaming among Counter-Strike players`` like there isn't in any other online-game out there in that manner? Do articles like firearm have to exclusively mention how a projectile kills, and explain that how greatly a gun can be used in warfare, when it's just not obvious enough for the reader to look up on that information seperately? `
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== Trinity/Barbie Blank == Stop putting spoilers god ur so retarted there is no spoilers in wikipedia 8:30 ; 13 June 2006 (UTC)
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On the banana thing, you do know why it is too obvious to be included regarding cakes and sweets? Because it is mentioned that it is edible food, so is it mentioend that Counter-Strike: Source is an online videogame.
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I hesitate to remove the external links to pbp forums until someone else also agrees that external links should only be a list of links to directories or portals. I will wait a week or two and if there's no objections just take them down. This means removing anything at all in external links (not the 'related links' to other wikipedia articles) that lead to game forums. Things like Pbem2.com, playbywiki.com, rpgee.com, service providers and that kind of stuff.
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Potential for original photography Little piece of Mecca mentions that free tours are sometimes run of the Lakemba mosque. It might be a way to get photos of the building.
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:Congrats in DYK, interesting article
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:The 2004 section should not be merged with a page that is about an original muscle car. The two types of cars are far too apart in both time period and style that they should not be in the same article.
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:Agreed, keep it all on one page.
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:You know, Montréal is one of my favorite cities. I wish I could live there year-round. There are so many fun things to do there, and wandering through parking lots taking pictures of banged-up cars from the rear isn't one of them. May I suggest Biéres et Cie (coin St-Denis & Marie-Anne) or Réservoir (coin St-Laurent & Duluth)?
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By having full control of cartridge production, Nintendo could control how much money a developer could make (as one developer said, they could destroy them).
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` :I'm not 100% sure whether the category is a good one. If anyone wants to go to vote for its deletion, go ahead with my blessing. One thing I do know is that, as long as this category exists, Lehi undeniably belongs in it. I don't see you removing Al Qaeda from the category. The only possible motive for wanting to remove Lehi is sympathy with this terrorist group, which is not a valid encyclopaedic reason. —  `
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:Well ... yeah; and what the hell happened to my user page? There was some stuff there, I seem to remember, and now it's gone. Not that it was of any real import, and I can understand someone screwing up and blocking the wrong person, but any chance it'll get restored? ==
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::Regarding restoring my userpage: yes, duh! I forgot there was history. Still, I think it would have been nice if you had restored it, since you (mistakenly) messed it up. No big deal, but it would have been nice. ==
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== Crescent Heights High School Fatal Casualties in the Second World War == Hi, I'm sorry but I've nominated this for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Crescent Heights High School Fatal Casualties in the Second World War. I just don't see this being an encyclopedic article. Although, it may have value elsewhere.
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== Thanks so much Shreshth91! == {| cellpadding=2 |- | | Dear , thanks for your FIRST support on my recent request for adminship. I've really enjoyed working with you so far. It's such a pleasure to work with fabulous young talents like yourself. Like I said, I won't be notable enough to be on wikipedia, but I'll bet my house that you will be! Take care |}
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== More edits == Made some extra changes this a.m; these involve adding notes/links to Sino-Russian border agreement, as Republic of China do not recognize any agreement involving the People's Republic of China, the Aegean dispute link for Imia/Kardak, and a change to Sakhalin. While Japan adheres to the SFPT, it regards Sakhalin as no man's land. RAYMI. 14/06/06.
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::If this were true, then the Welsh would all be happy to call themselves English. This is clearly not the case, so it is you who are spouting nonsense I'm afraid.
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Ethnicity is not about race by the way - perhaps you don't actually know what the word means.
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I was the one being under personal attacks by people who avoid the subject and kept to personal attacks instead to read what I was writting, and yes my contribution was avancing the subject with very important and new informations, but the other users were constantly trying to stop it by the mean of personal attacks. I wonder that you suppress my contribution but let the one of val stay, who contain nothing but a copy paste of very large part of my edit, without any reasons for it, whcich is against wiki rules, and with personal attacks in between. Very convenient too that you leave ton for holyday straight after doing so, meaning less than 6 hours after having doing so. This talk page is not a talk page but a propaganda page for a propaganda article, with only mormon administators to make sure nothing they disaproove as church member will come through. You do not have given a fundament for your actions, and I therefor disagree with it. you will have to be there to do so.
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` ::I disagree with WP:FAITH. Wikipedia only has the right to make demands on what I do on this website, not on what I think or believe. ::Whether you ``understand the comparison`` between X and Y is irrelevant. All the groups in the category are the same in that notable sources have accused them of terrorism. That is the only thing that matters. Neither does it matter what pages are on your watchlist. Demanding that any given group be removed from the category, but not the others, is not acceptable. It doesn't become acceptable if you claim good faith. —  `
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*This is really getting out of hand.
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Being yourself a mormon and actively working in wikipedia for the sole purpose to defend mormons interests your decision cannot be accepted. You are a like a member of the klux klux klan parading as impartial judge in a trial against a black. This cannot be accepted and will not be. You are diorectly violating the first 6 rules of wikipedia and I will not let you escape from this gratuituously. Sophie
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`::::::Well, not apparently at major libraries in Maryland and Pennsylvania where I have now checked. Your response to my assertion that the criticism section was now skewed against the novel was that I had no substantiation. Now that I have provided some, please explain why I should accept your word that such a search ``will yield different results`` and that you should not be held to the same standard. Moreover, I just began looking into the subject. If there are so many other literary examples of such criticism, why have you not so much as mentioned them previously? `
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==I'll be back== One edit in a month perhaps...Maybe a couple. You might go weeks without seeing me. And I might make a couple edits a day but basicly I won't make any edits. ForestH2
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` It sounds like ``Base-inger`` rather than ``Baz-inger``.`
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== Order of films == I noticed her films are listed with the oldest towards the top, whereas most other actors I have seen list the most recent film (newest) at the top. Is there any type of standard that should be applied?
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` == Image:Rockstar Leeds logo (2004).gif == Hi. I noticed you had deleted Image:Rockstar Leeds logo (2004).gif back in May 23 (IFD nomination; log), but the image was not the intended to be deleted (as it was simply a comparison for the Image:Rockstar Leeds (2004).gif), having included the needed licensing and rationale. Could it simply be a mistake? ╫ ╫`
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:: Again, nothing is going to be done with Extraordinary Machine here thinking it's their page. If EM wanted to do everyone a favor, they would leave. They continually stick behind words like tidying, just to be able to continually vandalize. They broke the rules a million times, so they're not in a good position to help with this page whatsoever. They make up their own rules. This page will be locked until EM leaves. Take a hint.
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You WERE NOT REVERTING ALL THOSE TIMES EM. You deleted other contributions, everytime something was added you didn't like. Get lost.
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Who keeps putting Lil Eazy down ? he hasnt signed yet and he prob wont I saw that website and its not credible.
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== Read this and become familiar with it == WP:OR
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: As you kinow it yourself you are not elligible nor credible nor a reliable source of neutrality in this case as you are yourself a mormon and all you do is to support other mormons, without following any wikipedias rules, but your own churchs solidarity. I dont believe that any of you has even the intention of being straightfo9rward with non mormon or to be a little bit honest, but that the alone thing that activate you is your own religious believe and the pedantisme to think that all you may say or do is auto righteous in the name of the church and all the illusions you dream of with open eyes. I dont want a mormon admi I dont want a mmormon admi I dont want a mormon admi to look into this case but an exterm¨n al one with no relations nor conacts what so ever with this church nor its representants or members. If you cant do that, must be because your circle of admi friends is around the church, or because you know very deeply that all you did was deeply unappropriate and wont stand a micro mile in a wiki trail. I am mad, very mad at you, also because you ignore what I have say, so why should I care about your saying and doing if we have to be neutraly equal? Any idea? I want the text who was deleeted from the archive, it is unacceptable that a text is deleeted from archive and from the edit history, just one hour after it was reverted and less than a day after it was written, without any previous warning of any kind about it. This is all about wiki rules and you have broken them all.
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`Hey Liam, sup? (Nick Cassaro)`
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` == Some more detail about Mormonism and constructions fundaments == :Regarding polygamism with early mormons, Joseph Smith and his first group of 12 mens were using it all the time but hidding it from their wifes... Joseph Smith was married to more than 20 womens, without the knowledge of his wife, and problems occured when this first group around him wished to make this polygamism as an official rule of their sect. :As the first wife of J. Smith was to know about her husbands several wifes, and made a scandal against it and asked for divorce, so angry she was against him, Joseph Smith changed his mind. It made J. Smith to think a little more about the problem and to make it a non legal part of their rules, which made the other male members angry at him. It end up as a polygamism rule, but first fully applied to all after Joseph Smith death. As many things in mormonism they first appeared after the foundators death, and are mostly made by its closest coworkers to assist them in gaining more power. :It is also very well known that previously to Smiths writings about the supposed contain of its golden books, he was contacted by various members of masonics loges, and many of this church rituals, both sacred and profane, are directly taken from classical freemasonry and masonic orders'rituals. Many of the believes enumerated in the mormons books are also directly taken from those traditions, therefor the mormons books looks more, for a religions and myhtologies and esoterisms specialist point of view, like an amalguame or milk shake of several religious and sectars theories, well known within other religious groups, than a religion in itself. Nothing in the mormon books is original, all is taken from somewhere else, often with quiet a unimaginativ mind. :The mormons researchs in latin america have given zero zero zero as prooves who could elaborate anything stated in the book of mormon as a source, or even ressembling source, for all the tribes described there. :Another correction to what some have earlier stated here: there is a hell in mormons theory. :Only true mormon, true knights of the later days saints, and else being it since as most generations as possible, have access to heaven,(the upper part, nearest to God). The downs part being reserved to just coming in members and half fallen members. And out of it is hell, for non mormon, who cannot access the other levels, and will never been able to be in the upper levels. It is clearly stated in the mormons teaching, and I heard it several times, by mormons priests, that there is no salvation for non mormon. Christian go to hell too, and none of the christian priests are recognized as such, nor are they aknowledge the power to baptise anyone, and they teach that even the first apostles, those walking around Jesus Christ, were not able to baptise others and that it is therefor their power was stopped there, until Jesus christ himself took to latin america, and baptised a bunch of by mistake-landed-there-hebrews, and later on this power was given by Christ and Moises itself to Joseph Smith. :And thats the way the story goes. :The foundator of the christian church is by definition unable to baptise others. Peter was spiritually impotent if we are to believe the mormonic song. :A way one can undoubtly see the influence of freemasonry in the mormon church is their attribution of 1st and second degree of priesthood, like a copy-paste of hebraic traditions, with some dubious change into it. :You are missing here also, the place of womens in the mormon church where political reasons, clearly prevail: It is for exemple today teached, that the upper god, is a goddess, the wife of God, and higher than him, and that she cant be named, and very little is known about her because she is OH! so high and special. It is also teached that the reason why women cannot be priest nor teach like priest, nor baptised, is that women are per birth closer to god than men, and that is therefor men only must try to come closer to god by manifesting their spirituality from an early age, all things a woman do not need to do as she has it all to begin with... It is also teach that men must fight harder to attain the same spiritual level as women have, and thats why women must do other things in the mean time: like give birth to more mormons members, do the cleaning and make food, and play missionary 1½ year of their life just before getting married, as soon as they return from mission time. All that good propaganda methods to secure the upcoming of new female members in that order, as well as keeping the youngsters in the old sheme of things, without risking having them asking certain questions, very up to date, very warms, and never answered by this church. :There is of course nowhere in the mormon books where anyone could actually read exactly the thing stated above, but the
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` == ENOUGH IS ENOUGH == Your personnal attacks seems to have no end, now I am verbose, what will be next? that I am black and you dont like it? After all your previously attacks nothing will surprised me. :Am I writing in chineese or are you deliberatly misunderstanding and misinterpretating anything I write to avoid the subject at hand? :I have been stating many times that this was not a statement about personal research, and I can see that you keep repeating the same accusations times and times again, without ever taking a stand from where I left the last time, nor taking into account any of my answers. :It make this discussion sterile and you are making of it a controversy that wasn't there on the first place, so I will ask you to come down and to apply one of the basic rules on WIKI, that stand that you musn't supposed the worse on the other users, but the best, and that you musn't bull any user away, nor use racistic tones. :Concerning first hand experience you are doing nothing but it and all your verbose and empty criticism of me are based on your ``knowledge`` in a matter based on your personal experiences. This apply to all the people who have contributed to this discussion and article without being deleeted: they are all mormons. :On WIKI, it is a rule that selfbiography are not to be written by the person it is about, so when writing the biography or history of mormonism, it shouldn't be done by mormons, at least on ONE of the site about the subject, in order to insure a minimum of objectivity on the matter. :You descriptions of the teaching are not points that I disagree about, nor facts that I have denied anywhere in my contributions. :On the opposit, and if you for ONCE took the pain to read what I write and not what you think I should write or what your big bag of prejudices hinder you to see, you will realize how ridiculous all your attacks are. :I have clearly stated that there is an official side and an official teaching, and that what is presented on most of the articles about the subject discribed in the big lines what is actually and factually teached inside the mormon church, but that those topics are subject to changement, that there is diversion from one interpretation to another, as well as there is complete denial of what was previously teached, and assertions being made who contradict what was first presented. :As I have enumerated some of it in my first contribution, those things constitute some of the pillars of the churchs doctrine and are therefor very important, and I therefor, founded very singular that they were changed with time on this way. :Reread me from the beginning and you might see the light. :Concerning knights I WAS SIMPLY REFERING TO THE APPELATION AS SOLDIER OF CHRIST applying to all members. :<<``Your allegations about ``hidden`` or ``secret`` knowledge has long been an allegation by Anti-Mormons. No once have they ever proven that anything like that exists. If you are talking about temple ordinances, you would be wrong. Just google Mormon temple and you will find a plethora of sites that provide exact quotes of everything that goes on in a Mormon temple. It is hardly secret, but it is sacred to LDS and we do not talk about it...even with other LDS.``>> Storm Rider, citation. :Do you read what you write? and do you have read what I wrote? :Here is a very clear exemple of what I am warning you not to do so systematically: judge others on the basis of what you have been told and are well brain washed to judge as, but from what you can actually see and hear that those others are trying to tell you. :I have absolutly nowhere in my contributions used the words hidden, nor secret, nor temple ordinances, but you have the audacity to present those words as being directly taken from my own text, so blinded you are of your own certitudes and prejudices! I found incredible that you couldnt see it on your own! :I have extremely clearly stated, many times, and on several occasions and places, and repeated myself to death on each of my answer to your attacks, that the teaching I refer to, are USUAL TEACHING FOUNDING PLACE AT CHURCH ON SUNDAY MORNING. :Is it now clear enough and can you take the pain to remove your veil and read what I actually write and not what you presume I should have say. :Thanks. And hear yourself staging your speach, with ``secrecy`` and by ``long been allegated Anti-mormons``.. bouh! those bad anti mormons, have you been so brain washed and have you been assigned for so long to pursue the bad wiches that you can't actually see what is in front of your eyes? :If I was you, I will found it very worrying. :About polygamy you are wrong as already explained by one of your friend, the number of wifes differ depending on the sources, and he married them on
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What? No!! I found that Raphael information in a book.
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` I have found the original answer in the archives garbage historic, after intervention of Töbel, here it comes: === Dear Val, who is also a mormon [or a parrots, 'ain't sure]=== I found very strange that each time I am answering to one wikipedian/mormons question, it is another who react to it instead of the one to whom it is adress to. :I do not see why you are defending stand point who are not at all being made by you, nor why you feel the urge to respond for another one than you. :I think that the person concern, Storm Rider, is grown up enough to do so on its own. :Unless next time I am under attack, you take the relay and answer that one for me as well. It could be interesting. :If you have something to say, say it so, but use your own words idea and language instead of making a copy paste of my entire edit, as you have nothing at all to add to it and in fact seems clearly to don't know what to say. :So do the wisest, just shut up! :It is in fact evident that you do not have understood one word of what has been sayed, and as you can see, repeating it indefinitely like rot speach, is not going to give you the ability to understand. :All you do is agressing agressing personal attacks and agressing. :Try to use half as much of your energy to understand what this is about and I am sure that you might see some light. :I do not think that my statements can be make clearer than they already are and that your reaction, more than a physical unhability to comprehend, expose your reticence at accepting things you just dont want to accept. :You cannot accuse me of talking in circle when you are the one doing so as it can be very clearly seen in your edit. :As for you stupid accusation of me not being >sophie, what about you? Are you VAL? or are you rama? or are you DGL626, there is a lot of nick name on wiki, and all of them cover up a real name. :They are all a pseudonym, meaning they are anonymous. :So if I take the name ``anonymous`` as a pseudo, I will be as hiding and as showing as you are, because at the end, in both case it is a pseudonym with nothing to do with the person real name and identity. :So what are you trying to proove, except the fact that you were unable to figure what I just told you on your own? :I had a name, this name seems now to be unavailable, and I dont feel to make it again or take another. :Following wiki rules all are equal on wiki, old rats as well as newbees (hahaha) and even arb com and board members and admi are as equal as usual wikipedian, thought they have much more power than them and abuse of this power constantly without bad conscience, and have learn to twist and bend all wiki rules behond recognition, so who are you trying to fool with your wiki neutrality and wiki equality, who is wikis first rule? :It is all a lie. :How can you claim equality with another if you have more power than this other and power on this person and can exclude this person from the group? :It isnt equality it is power struggle. :It is adversity, and supremacy and group pressure as here. :WIKI is oppression and extinction of the freedom of expression, it is so corrupt that not one admi found it disturbing nor strange to banish or revert a user edit to impose his own point of view, on the sacro sankt name of wikis neutrality and equality! :HA HA! :Make me laught, but dont think you can trick me at believing such lies. :Please, in the future, avoid using words that you do not fully understand, as ``logic``. :For your knowledge english is one of the easiest language to learn so stop affirming stuff like that gratuitiously, do some research first. :I speak 9 languages: :English, danish, french, german, norvegian, swedish, occitan, latin, greek, and geek! :5 of them fluently, the others as pocket use. Like german I can read a book but I dont have spoken it for some years so it might take me 2 3 weeks to get back the rythm. :As a nativ american your knowledge of foreign languages is zero, maybe hightened if you are a mormon who have been on mission outside the US, but you have absolutely no experience of the process of learning new languages. In europe from age 11 we choose between 3 languages: english german and spanish, at age 13, we have to chose another one, and choose between english german, spanish italian russian, from age 15, when we begin graduate school, we have to take another one, and chose between those named before and also chineese and modern american, and a dialect or local language, and can also take hebrew. :2 to 3 languages are part of the compulsory pensum. :I also took extra english dialect as the one spoken by semi natives in australia, and english dialect spoken in India. :That was for learning
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He's not dead. He has some problems.
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:Make your mind up - either I'm a Marxist or a Nazi! Either way, you are in breach of the Wikipedia:No personal attacks rule. Your persistent and blatant POV insertions into the articles English people and Kingdom of England have been duly noted, and your first official warning has been issued. If you persist, you will be banned.
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Don't you think here you guys prove there is a Jewish conspiracy? Or three Jews against one Christian is rather a pogrom?
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::and you are a mormon as well, so this mormonic vandalism has no end at all? Mormons dont only startt but also sustain the attacks. What gives you the right to revert 12 edits from 5 wikipedians without previous knowledge of the matter? For your knowledge I alerted the board of wikipedia 5 days ago. Sophie
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== off topic, who here agreees the 2000's suck? == Think about it, crappy president, huge debt, crappy music, wars, tragic events, yeah the 2000's suck -Dragong4
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` === Dear Val, who is also a mormon [or a parrots, 'ain't sure]=== I found very strange that each time I am answering to one wikipedian/mormons question, it is another who react to it instead of the one to whom it is adress to. :I do not see why you are defending stand point who are not at all being made by you, nor why you feel the urge to respond for another one than you. :I think that the person concern, Storm Rider, is grown up enough to do so on its own. :Unless next time I am under attack, you take the relay and answer that one for me as well. It could be interesting. :If you have something to say, say it so, but use your own words idea and language instead of making a copy paste of my entire edit, as you have nothing at all to add to it and in fact seems clearly to don't know what to say. :So do the wisest, just shut up! :It is in fact evident that you do not have understood one word of what has been sayed, and as you can see, repeating it indefinitely like rot speach, is not going to give you the ability to understand. :All you do is agressing agressing personal attacks and agressing. :Try to use half as much of your energy to understand what this is about and I am sure that you might see some light. :I do not think that my statements can be make clearer than they already are and that your reaction, more than a physical unhability to comprehend, expose your reticence at accepting things you just dont want to accept. :You cannot accuse me of talking in circle when you are the one doing so as it can be very clearly seen in your edit. :As for you stupid accusation of me not being >sophie, what about you? Are you VAL? or are you rama? or are you DGL626, there is a lot of nick name on wiki, and all of them cover up a real name. :They are all a pseudonym, meaning they are anonymous. :So if I take the name ``anonymous`` as a pseudo, I will be as hiding and as showing as you are, because at the end, in both case it is a pseudonym with nothing to do with the person real name and identity. :So what are you trying to proove, except the fact that you were unable to figure what I just told you on your own? :I had a name, this name seems now to be unavailable, and I dont feel to make it again or take another. :Following wiki rules all are equal on wiki, old rats as well as newbees (hahaha) and even arb com and board members and admi are as equal as usual wikipedian, thought they have much more power than them and abuse of this power constantly without bad conscience, and have learn to twist and bend all wiki rules behond recognition, so who are you trying to fool with your wiki neutrality and wiki equality, who is wikis first rule? :It is all a lie. :How can you claim equality with another if you have more power than this other and power on this person and can exclude this person from the group? :It isnt equality it is power struggle. :It is adversity, and supremacy and group pressure as here. :WIKI is oppression and extinction of the freedom of expression, it is so corrupt that not one admi found it disturbing nor strange to banish or revert a user edit to impose his own point of view, on the sacro sankt name of wikis neutrality and equality! :HA HA! :Make me laught, but dont think you can trick me at believing such lies. :Please, in the future, avoid using words that you do not fully understand, as ``logic``. :For your knowledge english is one of the easiest language to learn so stop affirming stuff like that gratuitiously, do some research first. :I speak 9 languages: :English, danish, french, german, norvegian, swedish, occitan, latin, greek, and geek! :5 of them fluently, the others as pocket use. Like german I can read a book but I dont have spoken it for some years so it might take me 2 3 weeks to get back the rythm. :As a nativ american your knowledge of foreign languages is zero, maybe hightened if you are a mormon who have been on mission outside the US, but you have absolutely no experience of the process of learning new languages. In europe from age 11 we choose between 3 languages: english german and spanish, at age 13, we have to chose another one, and choose between english german, spanish italian russian, from age 15, when we begin graduate school, we have to take another one, and chose between those named before and also chineese and modern american, and a dialect or local language, and can also take hebrew. :2 to 3 languages are part of the compulsory pensum. :I also took extra english dialect as the one spoken by semi natives in australia, and english dialect spoken in India. :That was for learning a foreign language, sister. :Oh! I forgot, you are a man, difficult to know with a pseudo! :I found it superfluent but wi
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== Okay why the hell are we sweeping the tese tragic events under the rug? == the hurrican in florirda, the tsunami in indonesia, the flooding of new orleans, etc. ?
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