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You know, for human excrement, you're pretty fast to find vandalism, good job, you have a purpose in life.
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Ooooh, you blocked me, don't you feel all tough and mighty now you little prick? After all the bullies that picked on you and stole your milk money, you finally feel tough and significant by blocking me. Good job mate.
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:Clarified. I think i was able to work it, despite not being a French speaker, -
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::Don't mind Jayjg. He's just throwing up another smoke screen. If we listened to the Rove's naysayers, we wouldn't consider anybody's definition of terrorism except the Department of Homeland Gestapo.
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Speak for yourself, tough guy. My only interest is in creating a definition that conveys information. My actions back that up. Your actions betray your true motivation as well.
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No. You are the one person who has disagreed with my proposal who doesn't have an obvious ulterior motive. I appreciate honest criticism because it helps build a better article. You are obviously interested in building a definition that conveys information because you are actively working toward that end, so your opinion is quite valuable.
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WRITE YOUR FUYCKING DISCOUSSION HERE YOU FUCK HEAD
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YOU RACIST PERSON! I BET U WANT ME TO DIE ON THE STREETS BECAUSE I CANT REAESARCH THE WAR THANK YTO YOU. I NEED THIS TO GO TO HARVARD AND CA,BRIDGE BUT I CANT THNAKS TO U...
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== OK LISTEN AIRPLANE GUY == HOW DARE YOU - DO U HJAVE NO RESPECT FOR DAVID BURGER? WHAT PROOF DO U HAVE?.. NONE!- YOU ARTE AN INSULT TO DAVID BURGER- HIS CHILDREN- AND HIS CHILDRENS CHILDREN- AND HIS CHILDRENS CHILDRENS CHILDREN. HE WAS A LEGEND THAT MADE GREAT MUSIC. U SHOULD BE ASHAMED.
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THE GUY ABOVE ME IS A WANKER!!
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MARK SWEEP IS A WANKER''''''
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:When creating a definition that effectively conveys information, we can't eliminate things that condemn ourselves. I realize that self-incrimination goes against human nature, but we can resolve the discrepancy by taking incrimination out of our definitions. Terrorism, for instance, doesn't have to be pejorative. We can talk about it simply as a method of war or influence. If terrorism isn't evil, then it doesn't matter if Israel includes terrorism as one of its tactics. :You may think that stripping any implication of terrorism from Israel is good for the Jewish people, but let's look at the big picture. In the information age, we can no longer keep people from researching historical data. Trying to subvert this information only serves to show the bias of those attempts. With unrestricted global communication, manipulation of mass communication is passé. I believe I can make a case for it never having been a good thing, but that is beside the point. Regardless of whether it was ever good to suppress and change history, one thing is certain: it is increasingly harder to do so.
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`==Vandal warnings== ===One more=== Dear Wb, Please stop adding nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. yours truly, ===The others=== | - No prob. Thanks for contacting me. Believe me, I'd rather help you than block you. So, here's some reading material: Wikipedia:Manual of style. This is an excellent resource for learning how to contribute here. I'm also as close as my talk page. Sorry to have come off harsh, but you wouldn't believe the sort of really weird edits from people who mean to harm the site instead of help it. I'm extremely pleased to help you if you'd like. - Wiki brah, why did you move a nomination for admin? I'm not objecting, just confused. Also, btw, how did you come across that page - it's not a usual page for new users to come across at first. Thanks in advance for your response. ==Ho cakes== Uh, right. ) WB, what are you doing...? I said I'd help you but if you do another edit like that last one, it'll be a time out. OK? No more weirdness? Thanks. - Well, in order to stay, your articles really need to meet a certain level of quality. I'm sure you mean well, but you really need to settle down a tad and get a feel for the site. You can't treat this like a blog page. ``Ho cakes?`` I admit, it made me laugh, especially the ``featured article`` header. But...stuff like that really isn't the best use of the site's resources. The nice folks who pay for the servers want the best possible return on their investment. Tell you what: I have to run, but if you have an idea for an article, why not stop by my talk page and let me know what it is? Maybe if I show you how to write a good article, you might understand WIkipedia better. - It's OK. We'll get you up to speed. However, you should decide on a single user name. Right now, you're bouncing between three of them. How 'bout we just stick with this one here? - :Last warning. If you continue to post nonsense, or to disrupt Wikipedia by slapping a delete template on Cindy Sheehan, you WILL be blocked. Actually, that is exactly what I was coming here to do. That was uncalled for as was ``Monkey spank.`` Gotta give you a time out for a couple of days for disrupting this site. Nothing personal. However, you can still edit this page if you wish to respond to the block. - == Good Morning == so what are you doing and going on? Why is everyone being mean to me? I am just trying to help. I read some guidelines and articles and don't think she is a notable person just like a stuntwoman on tv for brief fame. I am getting better but still sort of autistic my parents still keep me here. No one wants to be mean to you. I had a feeling you were autistic and I'm working with a couple of other autistic users. We welcome you here. But, you need to remember that this isn't a playground and that you simply can't edit the way you have been. I'm giving you one more chance. I'll remove your block, but only if you do the right thing, OK? Let us all help you. - OK, Brah. I've unblocked you. Now, please be good and edit like I know you can. I have to go, but I'm keeping an eye on you. ) Thanks. - Hi, WB. Man, I'm glad it was you and not the vandal I'm dealing with right now who's messing up my page. If you want, I'll gladly paste that English-speaking template to your user page. As far as making templates is concerned, they're pretty much like making articles, but I think you have to have the green light from other users before you create one. I'll look into that for you. Gotta run after I fix your user page. - ==Take a look== Think you'll like your user page now. )) Later! - ==Sarah== WB, please do not post articles like that. There isn't a problem with pornography here, but there is a problem with nonsense and near-nonsense. OK? Please? - Digging your user page. ) What I am referring to is the non-notability of ``Sarah.`` Can't you think of something to write about other than an unverifiable third-rate porn actress starring in a fourth-rate porn movie? I admit, it made me laugh, though. - ==Copyright violation== Hi, WB. You cannot cut and paste information from other sites. That's a violation of copyright law. Not good. Also, this is the English Wikipedia, not Brazilian Portuguese. My friend, I don't want to send you for another time out, but this kind of editing is disruptive. Let's wipe that thing out and start again, this time with a fresh article...one of your own. - == Phil collins (south park) == I didn't vandalize your article, I put it up for VFD for the reasons I stated there. And I'm glad that Lucky is working with you, he's a good guy. That doesn't have much to do with your Phil Collins article, however. I don't have any opinion about you, I don't know you. You shouldn't take my motion to delete your article as any kind of personal attack. As they say, it's nothing personal, it's just business. And, on a different note, please stop plastering and related templates on my talk page. == Templates == Wiki brah: I'm sorry, I'm working on about a dozen other things at the moment that I need to finish. I'd like to be able to help, but I have too many things going on all at once. I really don't know much about porn anyway, I'm a theology professor, and I usually stick to contributing to theology articles or doing admin actions. Perhaps some of the more porn-savvy contributors could be of help? · ==Concerns== WB, do you realize that you just asked a Roman Catholic theologian - Essjay - for help with a porn article...? And no, Soltak isn't picking on you. He's trying to help but I think he's running short on patience. I hate to say this, but so am I. You keep on adding the same kinds of edits, you're using sockpuppets in an inappropriate manner (since when are you from Brazil, by the way?), you have yet to respond to a request for comment and now you're attacking other users. I don't think you're being bad on purpose but your behavior's driving us kind of nuts. I'd like you to do something for me. Stay off Wikipedia this weekend. That's not an order. Instead, do something else. Take a ride. Go on a picnic. Visit the park. Go shopping. Work on your hobbies. Heck, watch some TV. I plan on staying away myself. I plan on spending time with my wife, flying my radio controlled airplanes and, quite possibly, start working on putting my 1965 Ford Mustang back on the street. Poor little car's been sitting in my garage for six years and the weather should be pretty nice. Might even tinker with my old '78 Mercedes-Benz 6.9 (that number sound familiar?). In short, I'm going to do something that doesn't involve sitting by my computer. You should too. - I am not being mean to you, WB. If you really are originally from Brazil, I'm sorry I doubted you. The ``request for comment`` means that several other users are worried about the kind of work you're making for others to clean up after you. Soltak told you about it. If you go to Wikipedia:Requests for comment, you'll see what I mean and you'll have a chance to respond. Did you read my last note all the way through? Did you have a chance to enjoy your weekend away from the computer? I had a rough day myself. Crashed my model airplane after putting time and money into it (my fault) and my car's alternator blew out, leving me stranded. So, sadly, I am back on the computer for the time being. Once again, no one is being mean to you but your edits are causing problems and we all want to help you contribute better. Otherwise, you may be blocked from editing for good. - My bad. I was thinking of another user who has a request for comment posted. It isn't you and I'm sorry to have concerned you. As far as the new articles are concerned, they are much better in my opinion than the ones you've done. The one on the SNL skit
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You have been temporarily blocked from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires.
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== Pamela Anderson == Joy Stovall, I want to entertain you (double meaning) !!! Pamela
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== Pamela Anderson article == Joy Stovall, I want to entertain you (double meaning) !!! Pamela
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== Vandalism Pamela Anderson article == GraemeL, I want to entertain you, baby ! Pamela
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::Well, with the 10-year-old comment, I was mainly refering to the part listing only points made, not specific opponents. Though of course you could see it as a list of the points that have been raised over time, regardless of whether they have been debunked by now or not. However, I'd see that as a bit confusing for the reader not familiar with the current literature on the issue.
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==Wikipedia widow== As the author and after further reflection under more sober circumstances I have tagged this article for speedy deletion as I believe it meets the criterion of General article 7 (1.2.7) at WP:CSD.
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shut up, jerk asshole.
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cut the ass bullshit you are the biggest asshole in asshole history. YOU ASS
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Welcome! Hello, , and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, please be sure to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~) to produce your name and the current date, or three tildes (~~~) for just your name. If you have any questions, you can post to the help desk or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!
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```Get a grip`` is slang. Means no more than ``calm down``. Not an insult. So calm dowm and don't see an insult in every request to CALM DOWN. You apparently believe soft tissue was found ONCE. Wrong. Find a quote from a reliable source that says no soft tissues were every found and we can delete it. `
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:Yes, there is some redundancy now. Unfortunately, that was the inevitable result of collapsing 3 conspiracy articles together. They need a very hefty copyedit now to cure that.
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== global warming == Would you perhaps like to discuss what you are doing to the global warming page at Talk:global warming since obviously several people disagree with you? 68.98.10.80 (MST)
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:Unfortunately, Google only shows about 48 hits all on gamefaq or nanostray related sites, and the article I presume you helped author offered no reliable or even useful information. If you'd like help writing an article, see Wikipedia:Tutorial —
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===I apoligize=== I apoligize, You won't see one of those messages on this page again, ever.
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Welcome! Hello, , and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, please be sure to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~) to produce your name and the current date, or three tildes (~~~) for just your name. If you have any questions, you can post to the help desk or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! - | ==Capitalization== Please take special care with regard to capitalization when creating an article. Constant moving will leave a lot of redirects. And redirects pointing to redirects don't work. - |
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== Islam worst traitor - Mustafa Kemal == In 1920's Mustafa Kemal with the help of the British became the hero. Hmm, well, this so-called hero canceled the authority of the most powerful system suitable for human beings. The Khilafah !!! He abandoned all the rulings of Allah. He did not stop there. He abandoned the Adan in Arabic, he denied Muslim sisters from obeying Allah (SWT) by abandoning the Hijab. All Islamic calendars and holidays were canceled. Yes brothers and sisters. He changed the Arabic alphabet to Latin. By doing so, he made sure the next generation will be lost and have no connection to their Islamic roots as they can not read and write all the Islamic culture that was recorded. This Islamic system sent by the Creator of Alameen went from the application in life to be in museums for people to go and see in Turkey. -
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` == Paranoiac hikikomori troll == You wrote on the hikikomori talk page, re: an anony user I'm all too familiar with these days: Are you for real??? This CIA nonsense has nothing to do with a social problem in Japan. Nothing. Take this paranioa talk to the frey entry or tinfoil hats. Or better yet, write a constructive Wiki entry on what you feel you are an expert of and leave non-related Wiki entries alone. I'm not even going to dignify anymore responses on what is clearly an Internet_troll.Mdziesinski Don't feed the troll ) He actually did write most (90%) of the Frey effect article, and seems to enjoy claiming that tons of stuff is due to the Frey effect. I'm currently in the middle of figuring out how much of that article is actually verifiable by sources other than conspiracy paranoiacs on the 'net... he of course claims it to be ``authoritative`` because it shows up as one of the first Google hits for ``Frey effect``. Of course, if Google ranks it highly, clearly it *must* be true. *shudder* Anyhow, sorry for that guy's vandalism, he's shown a consistent pattern of this sort of behavior. `
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` :A time out! How fun!! I haven't had one of those since I was a toddler. :Now, would you mind telling me where you think your allegations took place and giving me a chance to defend myself—-the way adults communicate—-or is treating other people like three year olds too much of a power trip for you? `
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If you want me to stop defending myself, I know of a really easy way to do that, Carbonite. Stop attacking me, and concentrate on a making a positive proposal for the article.
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: YOU SUCK IT!!! AS YOU'RE USED TO SUCK PHALLUS, NAZI HINDUIST LIKE HITLER!!!
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` ::::Your suggestion of editing the article is completely workable and was working as per Wikipedia guidelines until Jayjg and SlimVirgin started deleting large relevant chunks of the article, and reverting it to what we have now, as punitive gestures. If we can all agree to concentrate on making the article better, instead of punishing each other, there is no reason the article has to be locked. ::::I agree that we should start with an extremely innocuous definition preamble statement we can all agree on. However, a definition doesn't do anyone any good unless it conveys some sort of information. If there were just one word that we could all agree is associated with terrorism, that would be better than no definition at all: ``intimidate`` for instance. `
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:So... your message is that if we don't leave terrorism undefined, that you will get us in trouble? That might have worked in third grade, but here you'll have to present some sort of logical argument as to why you think the introductory definition of terrorism should remain undefined.
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` == Freya's Cats == Does anyone know of a source for Freya's casts being callled ``Bygul and Trygul``? This was mentioned in the mythology section, but I've never encountered their names in actual study except as something someone said they believed, but could not prove. `
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` ==Hey Travis deleting shit isn't something to be proud of. You seem to be so proud to be part of some group called ``WikiProject Wikipedians for Decency`` but you sure like to determine what is deleted. Get rid of that faggoty mustache.`
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` :::Oh... now I get it! Thanks Uncle Ed!! We just have to k n o w o u r p l a c e. :::If an administrator attacks or commits libel against a lowly editor, we just have to grin and bear it. :::Could you tell me what your link to ``legal threats`` is supposed to show? While you're at it, how many administrators making personal remarks about me did you block? `
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` :: ha I thought you knew it was me! i guess logging in would make it more clear, though its not tantamount to brave public speech if i use a name like limpdaddy. anyway, i was not gaming you into 3R block and got one myself after reverting bigdaddys ``clarification``. thanks for the colon advice, I thought there would be someway to do it once per edit. :: about reverts, not every revert is POV, but for nearly every post/revert pair there will be one party that sees the action as POV. if you're looking for them they are easy to find. :: re: your editing history, if i'm not mistaken, you continued to remove references to bill maher making jokes about their sexual relations, but leave those about their being ``friends``.`
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== List of official languages by country == Thank you for contributing to my talk page. Your comment/fact was useless and you still don't get it. The list of official languages by country is about languages not writing systems. And before leaving comments on a user page about something in an article, the proper thing would be to first leave a comment on the article's discussion page.
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:I tried logging a rather obvious complaint against Jayjg, and no other administrators would take up the case. This isn't about one or two people. The entire Wikipedia administrator system is flawed. There is no rule of law at Wikipedia. There is no administrator accountability to other editors. Administrators, like you, deem yourselves to be the law-givers and the law-enforcers, but in reality, you're just people like the rest of us. You have no right to order me to ponder anything. You have no right to re-interpret the specific rules about making legal threats. Wikipedia is supposed to be about making great articles, not about power plays, administrator corruption, and ransacking everything that does not agree with the agenda of special interest groups. This is what happens when there is no accountability for power. It makes me sick.
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` ::: Hi Marcuse. I see you've run into Sojambi Pinola. don't mind him, he's a buffoon. He is friend of Biff Rose's. They mention each other on their respective web spots. Looks like the two of them are on here basahing other people until they stand alone as edit king. Too bad someone else wrote about Rose's own anti semiticism, and racism. Poor Sojambi has been trying to fix it ever since. The sad thing is, he is so one sided, he has a difficult time persuading others of his NPOV- therefore he lashes out, and you were caught up in the crossfire(evidence here[]) Notice, he's only comparing what he wants you to see. the connection? well there isn't any really, but by creative use of wiki skills he tries to cover his own manipulations by using hanging you up as the villain. It's a rather typical obfuscation tehnique. By accusing every person who posts something that makes an edit to his work, he then marks them as a bad user. It's also reminiscent of those toubling Republican smear tactics of last year- only translated to this site. He's a schmuck. Claims to be latino, then claims to be jewish, then claims to be black, then claims to be white. Next he'll claim to be a woman. He's already claimed to be a few other people, and it was his vandalism of other peoples talk page and of the Rose page itself that got it frozen in the first place. Also of note is his complete inability to sleuth. I would find his ``detective`` skills humorous if they weren't so evil. good luck, and I bet your singing voice would improve, if only you would practice. `
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`-on a side note, here is some interesting news regarding hopeseekr what is this all about?: I WAS ARRESTED FOR HELPING MY LOVE FIND FREEDOM I love Persa Zula with all my heart, with all my soul, with all my being. I cannot contact her any more due to a court order insisted upon by her father. If one thing is learned from this, realize that one person CAN make a difference if they are willing to go all the way and sacrifice every thing. I have done and WILL CONTINUE TO DO this for Her in every legal way possible. She and I tried to live within The System. There is no escape. The elevation of minors ot adult status is termed ``emancipation``. For slaves a century ago, reaching a free state meant freedom for life. Persa herself has driven my car TWELVE THOUSAND MILES in search of this. she needs your support more than ever. It is AGIANST THE LAW for me to directly support her now. Hopeseekr is a 23 year old man in Texas, PErsa Zula is minor female who he moved into his apartment as his lover. How's that Ted? `
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:::If you're talking about the standard of joining gangs to overpower the bias of other gangs, I do not agree to that standard. The standard I follow is simply to work with other editors to make each article a little better than we found it. When a gang subverts that process by purposefully making articles worse as punishment or to serve a personal agenda, I tell them how I feel to their face. Doing so is highly relevant to the article it affects and belongs in the discussion of that article. :::I understand the concept of harmonious editing, and I agree with it as a priority second only to making sure that relevant information is not subverted. Information is not an enemy of an honorable person, but we see influential people here at Wikipedia who do little more than strip pertinent data from articles or delete entire pages of unique and beneficial knowledge. These people play little games of waffling back and forth between demands for sources and, when they get sources, questions of relevance. (See Talk:State_terrorism for example.) When their opponent suggests that they are being less than honest in doing so, these people block them for making personal comments. It's all within the rules of a system where there is no accountability for power, but it is in direct conflict to our humanity and what we know to be right. I am in the position of having a strict set of personal morals that I have never had to compromise. I feel that I have a lot to offer Wikipedia, but I'm certainly not going to defile the principles I've honored my entire life to be an editor here. When I see corruption, I am going to speak up. What you choose to do, is up to you.
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`: i think i get this now. first she got it right (by accident), then someone erroneously told her she was wrong, so she did some research and ``clarified`` her position by claiming she was wrong in the beginning, but really she was wrong in the second case and was right all along. this lady sounds like she's got her stuff together! `
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:::: Again, watch the civility.
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... ILL VANDALISE YOU IN A MINUITE!!! nah just kidding im sorry i just wanted to see what would happen
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:Please stop shouting (the highlight above, was copied from a Wikipedia policy article). Once you regain some level of civility I may be inclined to answr this question.
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`To those who have requested information in the articles I was helping to edit: I am not ignoring you. Ed Poor has blocked me from editing any page but this. ``14:31, 6 September 2005, Ed Poor blocked #36544 (expires 14:31, 7 September 2005) (Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by 'Zephram Stark'. The reason given for Zephram Stark's block is: 'legal threats'.)`` I have not made legal threats. In the matter that Ed Poor references, I deleted libelous accusations and explained why it was necessary to delete them in the edit summary. I would be happy to converse with you here. If I don't respond to you in my User talk, I must have been blocked altogether for what I said in this notice.Good luck and happy editing, Zephram == Notes from TheUnforgiven == `
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== cited material censorship == why, duncharris and ian harris, do you insist on removing this cited academic material precisely on topic? is it because you think it's wrong? is your opinion the slighest bit relevent? ungtss
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::those are your opinions, mr. pitchford. you have not presented facts to defend your opinions, in this case. here are my facts: the text is from an academic studying the field, is cited, sourced, and you've provided no evidence to prove it wrong. since when did undefendend opinion come to trump facts? 1859 or so, i guess:(. ungtss.
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:i'm wondering if you're here to discuss the censorship occuring here, or simply make irrelevent remarks.
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I haven't seen any activity on this page for a while, and I'd like to fix it. If I don't hear any complaints, I'll clean it up and replace the ordinal numbers with the beginning year of the festivals (as best I can figure them out). And I'll Google some of them to see if I can add any other information about each of them. Okay?
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` ==DYK== {| class=``Talk-Notice`` |- | |Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article HMS Orpheus, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the ``Did you know?`` talk page. |}`
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Has anyone got a photo, please?
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::You are correct. However, the material that doesn't specifically derive from genital retraction syndrome is still related to itin other words, all penis panics (it seems) are still instances of GRS. But splitting GRS into its own article makes sense also; if so, I'd recommend leaving Koro as part of the GRS article and describing it as both a subcategory of GRS and often a manifestation of penis panics.
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`Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia! You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikipedia, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires no personal information, and gives you many benefits, including: *The use of a username of your choice *The ability to view all your contributions via a ``My contributions`` link *Your own user page *Your own talk page which, if you choose, also allows users to send you messages without knowing your e-mail address *The use of your own personal watchlist to which you can add articles that interest you *The ability to rename pages *The ability to upload images *The ability to customize the appearance and behavior of the website *The eligibility to become an administrator *The right to be heard in votes and elections *Your IP address will no longer be visible to other users. We hope that you choose to become a Wikipedian and create an account. We hope you enjoy your time here on Wikipedia as a Wikipedian! | `
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Another thing you may like to try: do you get popups on this page in Safari? I'm using that library to generate the popups.
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Welcome! Hello, , and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, please be sure to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~) to produce your name and the current date, or three tildes (~~~) for just your name. If you have any questions, you can post to the help desk or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! |
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` The line about Satanic child abuse was rewritten to point to the article on Satanic ritual abuse, as the ``specific cases`` section deals mostly with alleged abuse towards children. The word ``children`` in the edit now points to the ``child abuse`` article.`
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` == Something you may want to see == Please see . e `
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University in Kaliningrad is not original Albertina (German, East-Prussian, Old-Prussian academy)!
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:Why don't you make some specific sections, if you find the wording biased? :I predict that neither you, or anyone else, will not be able to find anything to say in favor of military tribunals, other than that they can be expedient. :If no-one makes any contributions with points in favor of military tribunals, within a certain period of time, I suggest we remove the {POV} tag. I suggest two weeks. Fair enough? :Oh yeah. It is considered polite to sign, and date stamp, your submissions on talk pages, by appending four tildes ~~~~
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`:::The 3RR prevents one editor from reverting the definition more than three times. It sound like what you really want is to prevent anyone from editing the article that doesn't agree with your agenda. (For those just joining us, the intro to terrorism hasn't conveyed information for going on three years now. JP, SlimVirgin, and CSloat delete any attempt to define the term, lock non-definitional definitions to the article, block IPs that revert their non-definitions, and call anyone taking a stand against them a ``sockpuppet`` or worse. If you want to see who is actually helping to improve the article, simply take a look through the archives at all the people proposing objective definitions.) `
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` :I have a recording of a Sichuan person reciting the story 庄子和蝴蝶, and she says ``fudie`` instead of ``húdié``. So, I thought that ``f`` for ``h`` might be common in that province. — `
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` :::When you say, ``The content of the article is not the issue,`` I hope you are speaking for yourself. For some of us, the content of the article is the only issue. I've been through this same thing on many articles, including al Qaeda. In the end, it didn't matter what people thought of me. The only thing that mattered is that the NPOV tag was removed and has stayed off ever since. We finally have an article for al Qaeda that conveys information and is stable. That same thing can be done with terrorism. There are only a few people here who are trying to keep terrorism undefined. If we concentrate on the article, instead of letting them confuse the issue, we can get the job done. :::I have proposed this definition, not as something perfect, but as something that conveys information—-a starting point. The purpose of a definition is to convey information, so that much is a bare minimum. I think my proposal is a step in the right direction because it more closely matches for what I believe a great article should encompass. `
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== Hmmmm == Just noticed this. Gutted.
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This page has the following description on it: signature key - public key cryptography can also be used to electronically sign messages. The private key is used to create the electronic signature, the private key is used to verify the signature. In many cases separate public/private key pairs are used for signing and for message security. The former are called signature keys. Shouldn't it say that the private key is used to create the electronic signature and the public key is used to verify it?
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Mark Jacobs markjacobs8@comcast.net
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suck my hairy plums you fagggot
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== Comment == The gnaa are among the biggest losers on the planet. Their website, a collection of some of the most unfunny shit I've ever read, is an example of how to fail at life. Verdict: unfunny, unoriginal, piss poor.
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` == BigDaddy == Your comment to not bite newcomers is absolutely well-taken. I often try to save people who've been ``bitten`` in fact (see User talk:Ryan Moore for instance). It's a little different with BigDaddy. I've exchanged a half-a-dozen e-mails with him so my comments on his attitude aren't without basis. He seems literally unable to assume good faith with other users. Disagreement touches off a long rant about a liberal conspiracy on Wiki. He really doesn't understand that this isn't a blog and (despite friendly attempts to stop him) basically every comment of his on talk is a long-winded questioning of the previous editor's motives. These effectively become a personal attack. Are you serious?!! You're last comment is a JOKE!!!' and on and on. `
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` :Of course. `
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` == Your name on Google == Hi! For the heck of it, I searched for ``Linuxbeak`` on Google. Check out the fourth listing. It's quite humorous (and so true…): Search findings list and Fourth search finding link. `
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` Check this one out;) `
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This IP address is the external address of a large Australian academic facility; John Paul College. Please keep in mind that upwards of 2000 people use this ip every day.
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-This may be true, but my personal canon Revan will always be female.
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` == Popups tool == Congratulations on being made a bureaucrat! I thought you might like to know of a javascript tool that may help in your editing by giving easy access to many admin features. It's described at Wikipedia:Tools#Navigation_popups. The quick version of the installation procedure for admins is to paste the following into // - please include this line document.write(''); popupAdminLinks=true; Give it a try and if you find any glitches or have suggestions for improvements! `
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:As I understand it, there's no rule that it be someone else who adds the material to the article, only that it have been published elsewhere. Hayford Pierce would be free to add material from his own publications.
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(Marmot) :I have blocked JarlaxleArtemisfor one week for repeated violations of the ArbCom order, and also due to personal attacks. -
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` == Styles == Added Karate Style-lines with Okinawa extraction (1372), New Karate-Styles with Japanese extraction, New Karate-Styles with European extraction. :I have moved this new input by Robzombie to the bottom of this (discussion) page to keep it more chronological... `
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` == You're welcome == No problem with the vandalism. And thanks for the award, it is my first ) best, kevin ··· | ··· `
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Ain't Mt Kinabalu 4104 m ?? According to the high school geography textbooks of the Ministry of Education of Malaysia, Mt Kinabalu is 4104 m.
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Ask Clan Man Chan...he has the Plan!
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:::Agreed, the rest was totally unintersting though.
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Article length i started to get bogged down editing the article. it's good, but... i'm wondering if it should be shortened, like you were talking about. i like a lot of the detail, but by the time i got to the influences section, i was thinking that much of that should be in the articles for each member, with maybe just a summary paragraph pointing people there in a subtle way. kinda disappointed we don't have more comments, because even though i haven't read the article too many times, it's hard to stay objective while editing. re POV, i think there's still plenty we can remove there, although i took a few pieces out this last time through. i find that whenever it starts sounding like a rolling stone article instead of an encyclopedia, i get the heebie jeebies a bit. i'll step away for a while and come back in a day or two. we also might want to consider alternate org strategies (heading sequence, etc.), though my attempts to find a better sequence always come back to what you made mainly because of the rotating lead singers. the table of contents seems too convoluted though. maybe something can be done from that angle.
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== 8 September 2005 == Regarding this edit: Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks.
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::I have responded as well.
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Big ass warning type thing: You step to me on my user page, and I reserve the right to tell you to rack off, in any number of ways which may damage your ego. You act nice and civil here, and I'll do the same. Note, if you post random unhelpful shit, I will tell you to rack off as well. Be a jerk at your own risk.
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Bottom Line: Don't start nothin', won't be nothin'!
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:El_C didn't revert his page, which you would notice if you looked. He kept the bear. The user at the second page didn't revert, some other bozo did. Zscout370 did revert, and asked me not to, I agreed and we had a discussion, very civil. As for Louisiana, up yours. I got that from google news and more ridiculous things could happen. ASSUME GOOD FAITH. As for civility here, I refuse to be civil to people who aren't civil to me, simple fact. I would not many admins also use this policy. El_C and I have had a great relationship, ditto with Kim and Redwolf, why? Because they earned my respect by showing me respect. THAT is how it works.
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Elsewhere I am nothing but sunshine, gumdrops and cuppycakes. Here on my page, if you decide to be an asshat, I will put you in your place.
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:Please contact Redwolf, I'd like his opinion on this matter.
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. Neither am I. Pants suck. They should all go to Hell
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`Danny you said above about my complaint of POV scriptures inserted: ``In one comment he claims it's POV to use scripture to validate JW beliefs then in the next he says they don't support those beliefs! Which is it?`` It's both Danny! They are not mutually exclusive. You have inserted a plethora of scriptures to try and validate JWs' doctrines. You and others are well aware that the vast majority of Bible scholars do not agree with that use of the Bible and they say it's misused, and misquoted over and over by JWs. That is why scriptures should not be there. 1. The Bible does not back up JW doctrine, so it is not a valid reference, and 2. It should not be misused (as it is now) to manipulate the public into thinking that the Bible validates JWs' teachings. These many, many scriptures have only been inserted to try and influence the readers; they are not there for any valid reference, or a back-up to JW doctrine, they are just propaganda. ::If they are to stay, then you, or someone, should put an equal link to discussions that state these JWs' doctrines are not majority scripture based, and there are plenty of sites to choose from. Balance is the key, if there are to be many misused POV scriptures over and over again, row after row, then there has to be for balance an equal number of links to scholarly discussion contradicting JWs interpretation of those scriptures, and how they in the vast majority do not back up JWs doctrine. At the moment, Danny, you are trying to turn this entire article into a Watchtower magazine, packed with misquoted scriptures and no discussion making any proven point that these scriptures are backing up JWs' doctrines. Just the usual dump a scripture and run routine, it's not acceptable Danny, you may think any form of propaganda is ok as your religion teaches that, but keep it in your own magazines, please don't infect a public domain with it (I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears). ::You made another comment ``Either way, it isn't a point of view, but an indisputable fact that JWs use the Bible as the primary source of their doctrines and beliefs.`` Come on Danny, you know your comment is highly incorrect and very deceitful. Take a look at their predictions, where are they in the Bible, didn't Russell have a fetish for pyramids and made predictions based on their measurements? ::1. demonstrate where 1899, 1874, 1878, 1914, 1918, 1925, 1975 etc, are ``an indisputable fact that JWs use the Bible as the primary source of their doctrines and beliefs``? ::2. Or Where does the Bible divide 'major and minor' blood parts, and say one is ok, and the other a grave sin? I can't find that in my Bible, can you show me please? Or plasma is a sin, but breaking it down is ok, or that red blood cells are a sin to use, but using the 99% haemoglobin in them is ok? Or that animal blood is a sin, but processing cows blood into products is and using them is ok? You get the picture Danny, and there are pages and pages more that scholars agree have no basis in the Holy Bible are all. Please refrain from making silly emotional claims that will end up with egg on your face. ::You say more: ``While many disagree with JW interpretation of the Bible, it is important that WP readers see how JWs use scriptures``, except Danny, they do not see that, there are no justifying explanations, just a scriptures dropped in, and then run along to the next one before they have time to think. For each scripture, there should also be a link to a scholarly discussion that is contrary to JWs interpretation to give a rounded balance of coverage, if you oppose this, you have proven your motives are not pure, but agenda seeking for religious promotion, not balanced articles in a public domain, thus proving that these inserted scriptures are POV and should not be there. Why can't a belief just be ``they believe x, y, z.``? You are not discussing scriptures and there is not room on Wikipedia for that, so why try and manipulate by dropping them in controversially, and then running away with no justification for they reference? 8th of September 2005 ::`
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