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Nothing concerning WWII or the heebs and their holocaust religion is NPOV. This site is controlled by the Shylocks.
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`::I believe he was never 6'2`` but about 6'1`` and down to about 6'0`` now. I don't really get the whole ``controversy`` though, especially thinking he's about 5'10`` or whatever. He's obviously got a huge body (and head) which could make him appear shorter, but the thing is there's nothing special or amazing about being 6'0`` or over. It's pretty much the norm in Europe. Heck, I'm half asian and still 6'1``. While many actors do fudge an inch or two, and Arnold may have fudged 1``, it's rare that they'll fudge more than 2``. Otherwise they'll be ``exposed`` too easily. `
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`::Natianal Socialism was just a political movement, like Republican. It only became a ``crime`` when the Germans lost the war. Imagine if US lost a war to someone, and being a Democrat made you a ``war criminal``. This is basically the situation thanks to the heebs. `
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`. Why would Palpatine propagate his deformation by continuing to generate Force lightning? Some argue that he purposely disfigured himself to use as evidence against the Jedi in the Senate, and that given his personality, he wouldn't really mind the changes. How can one make such a presumption though? He's pure evil, we really don't know much else about him character wise. That's also part of what makes him so great, he's little more than evil personified... the Dark Side of the Force incarnate. Its far more likely that he looked like that before, the Dark Side corrupting his features over time. That would explain why his face looks perfectly symmetrical as a side effect of Dark Side abuse, rather than truely ``warped`` all in one shot. Remember, Lucas didn't create Palpatine in ROTJ thinking, ``He's human, and he looks so hideous because Mace Windu played by Samuel L. Jackson in Revenge of the Sith demanded a larger role and wanted to claim responsibility for something important.`` When approached with a question asking him why the Emperor looks the way he does sometime after the release of ROTJ, Lucas answered that it was a side-effect of utilizing the Dark Side for so long over one's lifetime. He specifically likened it to cancer. They were originally going to make the change gradual over the course of the prequal trilogy, as exemplified by AOTC. As you can see, all of the makeup that made him look older in AOTC was not present in ROTS. Reason? Samuel L. Jackson. He had to whine and complain about having an impact and not getting killed by Clone Troopers like all of the other Jedi. George got him to shut up by having a not-so-noble death, and having it look like he beat Palpatine in a duel (specific quotes from Nick Gillard in the Making Of Revenge of the Sith book indicate that Palpatine acted the whole thing out, PERIOD. He even stressed it to the point where he suggested Ian add, ``SUCKER!`` to the his dialogue) Yeah right, all of the smart fans know better. Alright so Mace was duped, but Samuel was obviously pacified. Di Mace still make an impact? In a way, he did. He revealed the galaxy the true face of Lord Sidious`
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Ive added goose but I dont know that much about them so could someone else fill it in?
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` **I think you misunderstood me. My question is not about whether the people there make a little money or a lot of money. It is about the definitions of ``family`` and ``males``, and how a family can possibly make less money than the members of that family. `
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Just added more accurate pictures of him that's all. In his younger days!
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== Hey moron == I'm a revisionist. Are you? All of us revisionists agree that the Germans employed delousing chambers for killing lice with Zyklon B. Why won't you let me add this to the Holocaust_Denial page? Because it explains the reason Zyklon B was found at camps? It explains the shaving of hair? The stripping? The showers? Gee, wouldn't that be inconvenient!
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What is vandalism though? If I add facts/improve on pages, often some moron reverts it. IS that vandalism just because they didn't like what I wrote? Stupid. You have to agree, Wesealthal looks like a rodent.
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There was a rumor floating to that effect in December 1933. Frank Calder denied it, which led the press to think coverup, and both teams told their players there was nothing to it. During a March league governors' meeting (but before the season ended), the move to St. Louis was approved.
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`WTF, for a second I thought it said ``He has badgers on his hands.`` `
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Fuck you, and your family.
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Welcome! Hello, , and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers: *The five pillars of Wikipedia *How to edit a page *Help pages *Tutorial *How to write a great article *Manual of Style I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!  For any help you need, don't hesitate to contact me. Enjoy wikipedia!! (|
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`the template will be removed, article is not on ``wikipedia copytight problems | DOWN `
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in the next 12 hours. | DOWN
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:List of dog fighting breeds states: Dog Fighting Breeds is a list of dog breeds originally developed for, or commonly used at some time in their history for dog fighting. :Indeed, this dog was used for dog fighting at one point in it's history. In contemporary times, Western culture only use PitBulls and Tosas. In the Middle East Gull Terr, Gull Dong and Bully Kutta's are used. Please stop following me around, it's strange...
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`According to NIST special publication 330, the choice, ``to a certain extent arbitrary, because it is not essential to the physics of the subject.`` and,``by convention are regarded as dimensionally independent.`` Which is to say that they just are and you are not to ask questions. You are poking here at the rather tender underbelly of the SI. The units are not, as you point out, in fact ``dimensionally independent,`` however, we wish they were and keep them seperate to allow for accruate measurements, and convention. Another sore topic is temperature. Why are there two systems? What sense does that make? It's just like the tradiational system of fahrenheit, except that the afine transformation is simpler and people liked it, so they held on to it b/c it wasn't that bad. `
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::::Ideally, articles should not purposefully link to a dab page. There's no rule against having redirects to a dab page. Having a page pointing to a dab page is not the end of the world, anyway, and we will no doubt have quite a few such links until we get the Native Americans links sorted out. -
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== Look at the dates you posted, klenk! == Is it the 12th or 23rd, the template states it was added the 23rd.
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== Television market templates == What do you mean where am I getting the information? I just add network (CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox, UPN, WB) stations shown throughout the markets. TitanTV and the USPS's ZIP code lookup site is good for checking this.
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::Don't worry, klenk, yours truly(wait...I take that back). I am working on it, as we type. | DOWN
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` == Your Comments on Davien Crow == Delete. NN. having a poem published does not make you a poet, let alone a notable one. getting a picture on the wall at school does not make you an artist, let alone a notable one. but since the musicianship seems to be whats really at issue, i say Delete until the 2006 album is released, then if (and only if) that album meets the music test recreate. Nateji77 *I would like to point out that WP:MUSIC only has to be met by 1 requirement. So even if you do not view the CDs released on Kidatrium and Mushroomcloud Records as ``Albums``, the fact still remains that they (his band Sin Star) has been on 2 national tours. The remarks you made about the picture on the wall at school is churlish btw, VCU's center for the arts is very reputable for it's art galleries if you read the page on them here at wikipedia you'd know. Those tidibits you took cheap shots at were simply part of the biography, not claims to notability. The Music and the Web Design Company should be the deciding factors, and they DO meet the rules... So please reconsider. By all means message me back if you wish to discuss this. *Look the point summarized is I am willing to work with you guys on why these were deleted but until now noone has given us any feedback and has even lied about stuff trying to get it deleted. All 3 of them meet the sufficient amount of requirements for WP:MUSIC, the guidelines in WP:Criteria_for_inclusion_of_biographies, Wikipedia:Importance, Wikipedia:Notability (the fact that suicide girls, gidget gein, and marilyn manson are involved and can be verified in those links should proove that) , Wikipedia:Fame_and_importance mainly the part stating ``There is clear proof that a reasonable number of people are or were concurrently interested in the subject (eg. it is at least well-known in a community)`` If you can't tell the community of Myspace.com and Livejournal.com alone are enough to meet this criterea you are blind. If you do google searches, go to forums and search their names, or visit internet archives you can find un-disputable information on the band from reputable sources, first hand accounts that are years older than these discussions, and intangible archives kept by internet archives. IF you want more detail read my above rant, your right I do sound mad about this, because I can't see how you can say they do not meet criterea or that this is a vanity page. Please accept my apologies for anything you have taken to be rude and please re-consider changing your vote. What Harm could it do ? BTW I am not trying to bully anyone, I can show you the location of the people threatening to come here and vandalize the hell out of Wikipedia. But I do not want that to be part of your decision at all. (please reference the large rebuttle on the discussion page itself) I have posted this, I hope that some of you will consider looking for my information and reconsider your vote for now. A lot of people are simply responding to the rudeness of user:sin-thetik and some things I said are being misconstrude as threats. I am simply upset because of all the time it took to write these 3 articles, knowing they fit the guidelines, only to have somone delete them with the proof and verifiable facts right in front of them .. just their un-willingness to read them. Please think it over, I appreciate your time. I'm just a fan girl trying to be the first to get an article up about them since I have been running a fan site about them for almost 2 years now.`
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` == Your Comments/Vote on Davien Crow == *You said they do not meet WP:MUSIC. This is not true. You only have to meet 1 requirement to meet WP:MUSIC though some of you are debating over what exactly is an album they have had more than 2 releases on labels, 2 of them independant notables Kidatrim music and Mushroomcloud Records. But the undisputable requirement they meet is having been on a National Tour, They (Davien Crow's Bands) have been on 2. Please reconsider changing your vote, thanks for your time and contributions to wikipedia. *Look the point summarized is I am willing to work with you guys on why these were deleted but until now noone has given us any feedback and has even lied about stuff trying to get it deleted. All 3 of them meet the sufficient amount of requirements for WP:MUSIC, the guidelines in WP:Criteria_for_inclusion_of_biographies, Wikipedia:Importance, Wikipedia:Notability (the fact that suicide girls, gidget gein, and marilyn manson are involved and can be verified in those links should proove that) , Wikipedia:Fame_and_importance mainly the part stating ``There is clear proof that a reasonable number of people are or were concurrently interested in the subject (eg. it is at least well-known in a community)`` If you can't tell the community of Myspace.com and Livejournal.com alone are enough to meet this criterea you are blind. If you do google searches, go to forums and search their names, or visit internet archives you can find un-disputable information on the band from reputable sources, first hand accounts that are years older than these discussions, and intangible archives kept by internet archives. IF you want more detail read my above rant, your right I do sound mad about this, because I can't see how you can say they do not meet criterea or that this is a vanity page. Please accept my apologies for anything you have taken to be rude and please re-consider changing your vote. What Harm could it do ? BTW I am not trying to bully anyone, I can show you the location of the people threatening to come here and vandalize the hell out of Wikipedia. But I do not want that to be part of your decision at all. (please reference the large rebuttle on the discussion page itself) I have posted this, I hope that some of you will consider looking for my information and reconsider your vote for now. A lot of people are simply responding to the rudeness of user:sin-thetik and some things I said are being misconstrude as threats. I am simply upset because of all the time it took to write these 3 articles, knowing they fit the guidelines, only to have somone delete them with the proof and verifiable facts right in front of them .. just their un-willingness to read them. Please think it over, I appreciate your time. I'm just a fan girl trying to be the first to get an article up about them since I have been running a fan site about them for almost 2 years now. PLEASE THINK IT OVER `
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` ==Your Vote on Davien Crow == *You said they are not notable. Please review the rebuttle I posted, the fact that everyone from Marilyn Manson to Suicide Girls and large internet sites like Roc Detector and Megametalonline and more importantly SMNnews should be proof enough are involved with Davien Crow and his band Sin Star should be enough ... But I have covered most of this already. I am asking you kindly to please review the facts and consider changing your vote to keep the article. *Look the point summarized is I am willing to work with you guys on why these were deleted but until now noone has given us any feedback and has even lied about stuff trying to get it deleted. All 3 of them meet the sufficient amount of requirements for WP:MUSIC, the guidelines in WP:Criteria_for_inclusion_of_biographies, Wikipedia:Importance, Wikipedia:Notability (the fact that suicide girls, gidget gein, and marilyn manson are involved and can be verified in those links should proove that) , Wikipedia:Fame_and_importance mainly the part stating ``There is clear proof that a reasonable number of people are or were concurrently interested in the subject (eg. it is at least well-known in a community)`` If you can't tell the community of Myspace.com and Livejournal.com alone are enough to meet this criterea you are blind. If you do google searches, go to forums and search their names, or visit internet archives you can find un-disputable information on the band from reputable sources, first hand accounts that are years older than these discussions, and intangible archives kept by internet archives. IF you want more detail read my above rant, your right I do sound mad about this, because I can't see how you can say they do not meet criterea or that this is a vanity page. Please accept my apologies for anything you have taken to be rude and please re-consider changing your vote. What Harm could it do ? BTW I am not trying to bully anyone, I can show you the location of the people threatening to come here and vandalize the hell out of Wikipedia. But I do not want that to be part of your decision at all. (please reference the large rebuttle on the discussion page itself) I have posted this, I hope that some of you will consider looking for my information and reconsider your vote for now. A lot of people are simply responding to the rudeness of user:sin-thetik and some things I said are being misconstrude as threats. I am simply upset because of all the time it took to write these 3 articles, knowing they fit the guidelines, only to have somone delete them with the proof and verifiable facts right in front of them .. just their un-willingness to read them. Please think it over, I appreciate your time. I'm just a fan girl trying to be the first to get an article up about them since I have been running a fan site about them for almost 2 years now. PLEASE THINK IT OVER `
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` ** I know I am just trying to make sure that everyone knows the facts. Sorry to have bugged you a little. As far as what you said. ``You have my assurance that I am reviewing the material you have presented thoroughly and will not make any decision lightly. Does the band/artist have any full length CDs available and what label? Are they for sale anywhere on-line? Did they perform in any tour? If so, is there any verifiable evidence of this?`` They have had 2 national which tours can be verified by looking through the entries on the Internet Archives - Archive.org when viewing past sites for http://mind-pollution.net, http://sinstar.net, and http://marilyn-manson.net as well as some other sites. All of these were listed and cited as sources. I also provided some links in my rebuttle to further proove this. As far as their CDs Mushroomcloud Records has the enry for ``we whill be heard 2`` which is a compilation released by a notable indie label. The other releases have not been full length or distributed for Sin Star however Mind Pollution did have a few albums avalible in store catalouges (CDs stores don't stock but sell) but because of legal trouble mentioned in the articles everything was forced to be discontinued immediately. But after all 1 requirement needs to be met for WP:MUSIC. This band has gathered a very large following and your right sooner or later there will be an acceptable article on them. But I do not see why this is not the case now seeing as how they meet the requirements and are linked to some very interesting famous people like Gidget Gein and Marilyn Manson directly. Thanks for taking time to reply. I very much appreciate it. You have been one of the only people to reply to me with respect thus far `
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` :That brings up an interesting point. There are, afaik, very few direct competitors to Bose based on both price and quality, probably because few others have the marketing power to sell unremarkable sub-sat HTIBs at such prices. If you've checked their sites and they don't seem to compete in the same exact segment (read: where the ``smaller is better`` and ``more expensive is better`` market segments overlap), I for one have no objection to removal. Actually, I need to trim a couple too... Athena and KEF lines do not, AFAIK, target the high-end segment of the market. `
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What is some information on the Black Tulip
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, 23 September 2005 (UTC) I will have the mormons do this one. 20:03
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== Cititations assignment from DES Completed. ==
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- I think it is wrong to say that Parliament is a small vegetable, and I take great offence to anyone that believes that it is.
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Your are awesome! Wa-do Tsv-ge-na-li (Thanks my friend). I will go through all the Ah-ni-yv-wi-ya postings when I get home. I also spoke with Paul of the Ah-ni-ku-ta-ni and he relayed that a public unveiling of the ancient tablets is being scheduled, along with invitations to the public and researchers to hear the ancient stories told from these artifacts and the ancient writings in both english and the ancient dialect following completion of the council lodge this year. I will post the dates for this event. You may wish to come. I will be there. You are invited DES.
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Thank you, and I understand about Bankstown Airport -) All the best,
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I dont know what the HEll you are talking about. Shellie
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::I've had another go at it, now three paragraphs, starting in turn In music..., In Jazz..., and In dance music.... ::I'm taking your word for it that this convention (interpretive device) is assumed for all written jazz. ::I'm not convinced we quite have swing time right yet. Surely as technical terms, swing time would refer to the method of writing the music, while swing rhythm would refer instead to the result as played? But that's the opposite of the way the article now reads. On the other hand, swing time is something many people who don't read music at all would think they could recognise. Difficult. Is it possible that the jazz fraternity and the dance fraternity use the words in exactly opposite senses? This wouldn't be the first time something like this had happened in music, see vibrato unit.
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`Is there any half-decent Cantonese pop music, or is it all treacle? 04:41 25 Jun 2003 (UTC) Is there really ``westerners`` listening to Cantopop? I doubt the sentence ``To western ears,...`` is NPOV. The article fails to mention the composer 顧家輝, singer 仙度拉, and their song 啼笑姻緣 which overturned the preception that Cantopop as a second grade Music (i.e. for old uneducated person only). And it was Sammy Hui who finally pushed Cantopop to overtake Mandarin pop as the music of choice for HK youths. ::Yes no mention at all of the Gu Gaa-fai,Wong Jim collaboration. No mention at all of the popularity of TVB TV theme songs, while everbody else was sticking their own lyrics onto somebody elses music these two, seemed to be the only people producing original material. : I'll try to NPOV the article more, but I claim no responsbility on contentyou can't get much further from my musical domain than Cantopop. 05:06 25 Jun 2003 (UTC) : No problem. I bet you have the chance to listen to the most popular Cantopop songs but not the best. I will get the same preception if I listen only to Madonna or Britney Spears. ::I didn't mean that I wouldn't like it. I meant that I've never heard any, and I certainly don't know the history behind it, so my editing is limited to grammar and attempts at NPOV. ) 05:23 25 Jun 2003 (UTC) === Tones === I heard that Cantonese music differs from Mandarin in that Mandarin respects the language tones in the melody, but Cantonese doesn't. Is it true? : Good Cantopops do respect the language tones in the melody, as all Chinese dialects are tone-sensitive. What you heard is a recent disaster in HK music, beautiful face is more important than singing skills and so songs become less important. But there are still many real musicians care about the tones and the melody. :Cantonese is more tonal than Mandarin. Mandarin only has 4 tones for each pronunciation, but Cantonese has at least 6 tones according to most dictionaries. Some author even claims there are 9 tones in Cantonese. Even though written Chinese can be pronunced in Cantonese or Mandarin, but the sound differs so much that you cannot sing a Cantonese song in Mardarin nor vice versa. Many popular tunes get both Cantonese and Mandarin lyrics which are totally rewritten and sometimes with unrelated subjects. ::Yes but Mandarin has a more pleasant rhythm when spoken with natural darkness and light and this translates into songs pleasnter on the ear.I've heard people talk about Cantonese as sounding like a machine gun on the ear. And, how do Cantopop artists deal with music piracy? : Cantopop artists deal with piracy using the same technique as European or American artists, i.e. virtually nothing they can do!!! :: But I was under the impression that in HK and Canton, media piracy was much much higher than in Europe or America. But there still are Cantopop artists. Are the economic models different? Do they resort to corporate patronage? ... ::: Curious: How did you hear that ``height`` in Cantonese areas? 00:40 30 Jun 2003 (UTC) :::: I meant South China in general, but it should affect Cantopop. My source is Slashdot . Ehem. I think I read something in Wired of Bruce Sterling finding dirt-cheap pirated media there, but I don't find it. I though tit was common knowledge. :::::You have some of the most popular cantopop stars e.g. Joey Yung and Twins going on TV and saying how poor they are and asking their fans not to steal their livlihoods.And yes they do resort to corporate patronage of a sort.In the Joey Yung interview I was referring to, she claimed that she was making no money on her albums, but that she still had to produce albums to keep herself in the public eye and maintain her fanbase. With a large enough fanbase she can make money on personal appearances and concerts.For example Jade Kwan has recently been booked by a chain of bars, in the mainland, for a dozen or so 20 minute mini-concerts.Furthermore if you are popular enough you can make money through endorsments.There isn't a single reasonably attractive female cantopop singer who isn't e
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September 2005 (UTC) Perhaps a subsection under External Links would be more appropiate. - 07:20, 24
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Should we include Steve Holtz now that we know that he's GOB's son?
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I vote B. She's obviously a right-winger and self ID's as that But the first thing I think when I see Ann Coulter is - Damn, that's the hottest looking woman over 40 I've ever seen...including Demi Moore! My next thought is I know I'm gonna laugh my butt off at how she incites liberals. And she never fails to disappoint. So, while she would probably be delighted to be called a right-wing extremist, I think we should be smart enough not to fall into her little trap.
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` == english titles == im hesitant to do my own translations for song titles, bc lotsa canto- and mandopop songs have ``official`` english titles. i dont know them for this album (crazy is a guess, might be ``crazy for love`` even). this is a start. `
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==Vandalism of Cherokee Language Pages== If you redirect and blank this page again, I will initiate WP:RFA for vandalism. You are not part of our culture nor do you known our language and you are disrupting my work.
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Content needs to be left alone. I am writing a language reference and I would appreciate it being left alone until I complete it unless you are a native speaker of our language or have something constructive to add other than page blanking.
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:The Afd voting process left votes for keep and you views were rejected by the majority. Please take your black bead and start a new page somehwere else. You have not only failed to honor the views of the majority, at the first opporutnity, you were disruptive and blanked the page. Thou art banished from this page. See Cherokee Clans section on voting for an explanation.
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I will suggest you to be more careful not to be the source of a new chaos instead of defusing one....it will be most distressing to witness such one again. You took some mesures who are unlikely to be the right ones in that case, and it will crave a certain degree of familiarity with the subject and its history to can handle the task properly. Do not dismiss users with longer experience with the case as it was based on this experience that the talk page was brought out. For instance, I received mails from the person who wrote the biography of the affair both for the french and the english talk page, as those din't knew enough about the matter to start with. If I were you, I will feel suspicious of receiving approuval and encouragemets about what you are doing, from a person who first heard about this affair for 3 weeks ago, second: heard about it from ybm -the drive force of this affair and person who resurected it from ashes in nov. 2003 - so not much reliable as an eye opener and arbitrary source of informations, and third: who has conducted, since then, a revert war in the best anti-3RR rules, and best ybm styles... It isn't right for an admi to emit subjectiv and judgementals accusations toward users, as calling them socket puppet and other insulting terminology, as it is usually to be found in the mouth of the persons who in shortage of argumentation, choose to attack people personnaly in best sophistics style. So no surprise that the person who rever you is the same one who used that language constantly against other users before you stepped in, and who was also doing the reverting job as you are doing it now. It is abusively unclear, what you are trying to do, and I do hope that a more adequate person will take over the surveillance of this talk page. One with the right degree of integrity, the proper knowledge of the stuff, here physic, a thourough insight in the affair and its history, and a knowledge of the people involved and their characters and profile in regard to the topic. I think here of Nicholas Turnbull, administrator, and expert in mediation. I have, unfortunately, to aknowledge the fact that your latest actions have resulted in creating a turmoil on the site, based both on your actions and your utterings, and that you have provocated 50% of the users, who had already been harshly provocated by user r-b-j for several weeks and needed therefor the administrators help to put an end to it, not to overtake the place of the source of turmoils. I do believe that you are acting your best with your actual knowledge of the facts, but nonetheless you should be more carefull to don't bruise som ego by commiting unfully justified and unjust actions in the process, and as a consequence endanger the quality of the talk page. As those arguments for and against have been dancing in parallel for far too long time, without everreaching a solid ground of agreement, and as references made by anti bogdanov are always pointed at some unclear statement made by scientifics a long time ago, where most did redraw it, and as all those people of science didn't knew a thing about Theoretical Physic and/or Cosmologie, which this dispute is about, and as the positiv statements, made by specialists in the fields named above, are systematically unaccepted for tricky reasons, as are the statements made on this page by pro-bogdanovian, who are called socket puppets for a yes or for a no, I suggest this affair to be settled once and for all by truly and undiscustably specialists in that field, I named Holger Beck Nielsen professor of the Copenhague Niels Bohr Institut of Theoretical Physic, and Stephen W. Hawking, from the Chair of Mathematic of Cambridge University. I have already made the necessary steps in order to bring professor Holger Beck Nielsen attention to that matter, and would like to know if anyone feel of doing the same in England. I tried already to suggest this approach above, but it seems that my suggestion was drawned in the tumults of the fights and remained ignored. I will ask you to make a join effort to gather your attention on this particular possibility and think of how each of you can take part in its fullfillment, in the best interest of all parts involved. - Lets work as a team -
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== Damn, Microsoft codenames are cool == Microsoft needs to just start releasing their products under their codenames...scrolling through the list, most of these are pretty badass.
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And I would very much like to know who you think you are and who appointed you on that page? For your knowledge Meru was officilly placed here to watch this talk page by mediator Nicholas Turnbull, and this talking is in the process on entering the arbitation comity, so your interventions here are so outplaced as they can be! I talked with Nicholas Turnbull tonight who disagree with your actions. You are not appointed here and do not have to make decisions above the heads of the members of the arbitration comity, so you will be very kind to step aside and anihilate your previous doing. This is not your playground. I do not know what are your motives to acting as you do as nobody has ever seen you here, but you do seems to go at it with a revenge. Any reasons who would be worth mentioning now? You have just been elected admi and the first thing you do is blocking and banning fox from a site you don't know and that you were not aware of for 24 hours ago. This don't go, you are overstepping wikis rules and previously made decision about this talkpage. You are acting very unbalanced and provocating a chaos who wasn't there before and who in fact wasn't there as far as the 22th of september. Isn't your role to make things work? Another veru very important thing is that you are walking on my article about a Settlement Proposal, that I do recommend you to read carefully, and that you don't have answer to in your recents edits above, and who therefor have no place what so ever under my article and as a part of it. So moove your articles above, to follow suite of your childrens fights, and leave the growing up doing the right thing. This article above was the one I was writng and in fact inserted in Meru own talk page before you made your intrance here, and before the situation degenerated that much. I did it in an attempt to calm tempers down and create a new tangible goal with better opportunity to solve this dilema than revert war and banishments war. I was stopped at inserting my article by constant editing of article from people fighting, and had each time to perform some changement of my article before saving it, at the end it was too late, you hade arrived, talk like césar, ban a person wihtout valuable and argued explainations, without warning, and taken over the role assignated to Meru by N. Turnbull a few days ago. By the time I arrived to save my article about burrying the hachet, heads had already rolled, thanks for you. For your knowledge, you did it at midnight, a saturday evening, and this kind of action will have required the presence of more users, and an agreement between those. Your opinion about the presence of Igor or not on his talkpage is none of your business, but the business of the arbitration comity and their decision, not yours. You will have to be more patient and leave to other the right to decide. Know your chain of command, and the wikis appointed chain of event before a ban can take place, specialy a definitiv ban! What about the other guy who begin this reverting phase all together? isn't he guilty as well or is he your personnal friend in the discussion forum? For if this is the case, and if you do have preferences for who is right and who is wrong, so you shouldn't be here and make interventions as well. You have to stay neutral, but your judgement sounds arbitrary to me, to the point that even your collegue Meru didn't understood what and why you were doing this and disagreed. Why are you making troubles, and tell me why the alone person who support your actions, is rjb, the exact person known for insulting peoples very often, reverting all the time, and having started this reverting war completely iognoring previous concensus made about the contain of the biography on this talk page. He was destroying the work of people, to who it had taken several weeks to obtain. You didn't baned him, why? Is he your socket puppet, or are you his? What were you doing 6 hours ago and why did you came here? Did someone warned you? What triggered your hush at coming by, first time, so late? I would very much like to know. You will please move your dispute and different blowings up on one another on a different place, and will take your bad saturday night mood swing somewhere else than on this talkpage, unless you have a satisfactory explaination for what just did happened. You can't ban Igor when Holger Beck Nielsen is going to make an intervention on this talk page. I hope you know who this person is. i do notice that the 2 persons who made reverting a war, and insisted on it are ybm and rjb who are both in very close contact with each other, and in fact I am quiet sure that rjb is The socket puppet of YBM. This way he can do it again and again and
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` == I have indefinitely blocked you == IMNOTEMICO, sounds like Emico. Just as we'd block I AM NOT WILLY ON WHEELS were we to see him. e `
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` First of all I would contest that you asked ``nicely.`` You've consistently been heavy-handed and a bit ``stressed`` in your tone to me, to put it lightly. Secondly, I'd like to see a policy citation for your claim that my comments to a party-opponent in an Arbitration case must be only addressed through the Arbitration committee. Do you have one? P.S.: You don't happen to teach at Connecticut College do you? I know a few people that went there...`
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... Yeah, strike that; you don't teach at Connecticut College
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` == Yes... == Unless you come up with a policy citation for your claims, I shall post on your page whenever I please. Go ahead and seek your threatened ``injunction`` if you wish. As it is now, I am not satisfied with your response. `
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In a culture where the language and religious beliefs evolved together, this word has very special meanings and is worthy of a unique and distinct article. As this article has survived an Afd, and this view was already proposed and rejected by the majority voters, Karmosen is simply continuing his argument because he did not get his way. Please accept the ruling of the majority and focus somewhere else in WP. Thanks.
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` `` ....People (only Karmosen) have demaned that if this article be redirected, the information contained in the article has to be merged, yet the linguistic information already exists (False, it does not already exist) in the only relevant article I'm aware of; Cherokee language (again false). The only difference is that it's properly formatted instead of being presented in a rather anecdotal fashion. The rest of the info (the first paragraph) has already been included in Cherokee. ...`` Also, this statement is totally false. In addition to being a false representation of reality, it also evidences intellectual dishonesty IMHO on the part of someone who did not get their way, and is this point in the discussion, borders on disruption. `
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The arterial plaque of Wikipedia: (not in any order): #Garage Bands #Web-Comics #Blogs #Webforums ''Note to visitors: you are welcome to add to this list if you desire. Admins/scripters: numbers would be great.
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Afd vote on FTS== Sincere apologies for clobbering your vote. Don't know how it happened, and I assure you it wasn't intentional. :'S ok. Shit happens. : ==
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`= requests administrative sanctions and dispute resolution against === An Afd process was commeneced by me aganst page ah-ni-yv-wi-ya. The Afd process concluded with Karmosin putting forward views that the page should be redirected and merged. The majority rejected his views. After the Afd ended, Karmosin vandlaized then blanked the page in question, then out of retaliation flagged a page which had just completed Afd that morning for a second Afd process. I want 1. the Afd revered on page Gadugi and Karmosin sanctioned for violating wiki/Wales policy of We Are Nice People Who Do Not Act This Way. On his user page his lists himself as a ``rebel`` which isn't something that fits in with Wiki's peaceful honeybee meme. While I respect all peoples right to their views and opinions, after an Afd completes, nominating pages out of retaliation in an attempt to oppress the majority is improper. I would like this user punished for 1) violating policies and 2) wasting yet more of my valuable time answering stupid and frivolous Afd requests and 3) interfering with me writing more articles. ==`
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` === Request for WP:RFM Opened Against User Karmoin === === requests administrative sanctions and dispute resolution against === An Afd process was commeneced by me aganst page ah-ni-yv-wi-ya. The Afd process concluded with Karmosin putting forward views that the page should be redirected and merged. The majority rejected his views. After the Afd ended, Karmosin vandlaized then blanked the page in question, then out of retaliation flagged a page which had just completed Afd that morning for a second Afd process. I want 1. the Afd revered on page Gadugi and Karmosin sanctioned for violating wiki/Wales policy of We Are Nice People Who Do Not Act This Way. On his user page his lists himself as a ``rebel`` which isn't something that fits in with Wiki's peaceful honeybee meme. While I respect all peoples right to their views and opinions, after an Afd completes, nominating pages out of retaliation in an attempt to oppress the majority is improper. I would like this user punished for 1) violating policies and 2) wasting yet more of my valuable time answering stupid and frivolous Afd requests and 3) interfering with me writing more articles.`
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` the Afd reverted on page Gadugi and Karmosin sanctioned for violating wiki/Wales policy of We Are Nice People Who Do Not Act This Way. On his user page his lists himself as a ``rebel`` which isn't something that fits in with Wiki's peaceful honeybee meme. While I respect all peoples right to their views and opinions, after an Afd completes, nominating pages out of retaliation in an attempt to oppress the majority is improper. I would like this user punished for 1) violating policies and 2) wasting yet more of my valuable time answering stupid and frivolous Afd requests and 3) interfering with me writing more articles. UPDATE: Karmosin is also making RACIST STATEMENTS on the Afd page for Cherokee Moons Ceremonies which attack my race and culture calling my work ``Cherokee-Cruft``. This conduct is WHOLLY unacceptable. `
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` UPDATE: Karmosin is also making RACIST STATEMENTS on the Afd page for Cherokee Moons Ceremonies which attack my race and culture calling my work ``Cherokee-Cruft``. This conduct is WHOLLY unacceptable.`
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` == Spam? Where? == You keep on mentioning that when 195.64.95.116 is linking to this webpage it is considered ``spam``. You even see this to be reason to block this IP for a week(!). Please define what you think is spam, because where I come from his/her linking to this particular website is anything but spam. I happen to be a member of some mailinglists (yahoogroups actually) on which Julius has written an enormous amount of very good articles on MP3 and stuff relating to audio-engineering, in Dutch. Many of the info he, his cousin and/or some others have put on this particular site, I see no reason for them to be needing any more visitors to this webpage than it already has; there are no popups, not even google-ads on it, so really, get your act together: This has NOTHING to do with spam. In fact, when I looked into this IP-address you blocked, I found that it resolves to ``jult.net``, not to jthz.com, and even though it might be used by Julius, who is also one of the creators of the page you regard as spam, I still don't see the connection to ``spam``. Being able to use your admin-tools does not mean you need to abuse people on Wikipedia. Grow up! :Note that Julius is even one of the people behind blocking/fighting spam; see example here, so you better do your homework first. == Still the same threats from the jealous little man with the minority complex? == I read this nazi-like threat on the talk-page for my IP-address; I thought you quit. If you don't stop spamming the MP3 article with links to your own website I'm going to block you from editing. 1. I quit what? I never started or ended anything. 2. It's not spam and it has never been spam (and you know it isn't, your beef is something else, I don't even know what it is). Links YOU left in there ARE spam though, but you seem to be blind to those, so I will remove them for you. 3. Our webpage reaches more than 200 audio-enthusiasts daily, because it is informative on the subject, and has been since 1997. 4. If you keep on threatening me in this ridiculously nazi-manner of yours, I will report your behavior to those in charge, and we'll see about you being able to block perfectly valid links from being on that page. On top of that I will annoy you where and however I possibly can without breaking the law, your stalkerlike behavior is quite sickening and needs to stop. 5. You are pretty pathetic, not ONE claim you ever made had any proper foundation, and you know it. `
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` ::::...and censoring certain types of information is too often an attempt to ``sweeten`` the well, which is no less insidious that ``poisoning`` it. `
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:Look at your own ridiculous behavior first. By the way, I'm a different user than the one you seem to be writing to/about, even though I agree with this user more than I agree with you.
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Good afternoon, I took out that prepsosterous suggestion that she supports Tim McVeigh. The only thing more prepsosterous is the absolute tortured logic that supports it in this talk section. But, if someone wants to carry on in that vein, be my guest. The McVeigh reference will never be allowed and the logic supporting it is a textbook case of someone willing to argue anything to slime someone. If Ann's joke means she supports Tim McVeigh than Bill Maher's joke means he was in favor of murdering Katherine Harris (remember when he asked for OJ?), Howard Stern supports people being drowned by Hurricane Katrina and Jay Leno supports Bill O'Reilly suicide bombing himself (he joked about that with O'Reilly when he was a guest.) IOW, this is a dead end ridiculous and pathetic attempt to smear her for absolutely no reason. It may not be funny to you but neither is Hurricane Katrina to others. When someone tells that joke in The Aristocats does that mean they support beastiality, incest and terrorizing 911 victims remaining family members? Puh.....leeeze.
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` There you go again Dr. Hillman defaming Jack Sarfatti as a liar when you say he ``may be telling the truth``. Jack ALWAYS TELLS THE TRUTH to the best of his knowledge. You do not. For example you continue to say Jack ``taught`` at the University of London when repeatedly you were corrected that he was a ``Research Fellow`` there. With you and others Jack is automatically guilty in your double standard. SIGNED Jack Horner woodymarble@mac.com`
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Minor typo correction to Doc Savage's remark -SIGNED Jack Horner
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` Dr. Hillman are you really so insensitive to your defamatory remarks about Jack Sarfatti? Is it simply your arrogance? Your double standard that you do not apply to yourself? I mean your ``I took the claim about Jack's education from his self-described ``official website``, but most of us would probably agree that Jack Sarfatti may not be the best source of information about Jack Sarfatti`` again your blatant insinuation that Jack is a liar, some kind of criminal who must be assumed is guilty and must continually prove his innocence. You cannot point out even one factual lie about himself on anything he has ever written. As to his not using quotes for other people's remarks that is generally not true at all. It may happen inadvertently but only rarely in my experience. Sarfatti is in a position of great trust with some important people and for you and others to casually defame him as not to be trusted on factual information is really legally damaging. You should check your own sources and apply your own criteria to yourself. Also give your e-mail and real ID. I give my e-mail. SIGNED Jack Horner woodymarble@mac.com 4:40 PM Sunday Sept 25, 2005`
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```Under Attack`` User page has been under attack and will be protected until the vandals have stoppedSteve espinola * Wow!! Fucking double speak, [wo]man. Lol! If your page was vandalised, what about the stuff you did to mine? :-) No, I think we got a little double think going on now, which I find double plus plus bad but simultaneously double plus plus super double plus funny. Help support and spread newspeak today! For you have already significantly adopted the other tenets of Big Brother gov'ment. All I can say: * War is peace * Slavery is freedom * Vandalism is fine editorial skill — HopeSeekr of xMule (Talk) ``Mexican Estaban 'Steve' Espinola,`` I feel that your claims of wrongs perpetrated on you deserve documentation. Given all your talk of vandalism to your page, I think it makes sense that all the drama around your presence on Wikipedia be returned to your talk page, where it belongs. Signed, the Brooklyn Steve Espinola, user name: Sojambi Pinola new text [This was left on User:HopeSeekr of xMule's discussion page at . Basicially, he cut everything from his own page, items 1 through 20 below, and pasted it onto HopeSeekr's.] I've added my whole talk page to your talk page, as you've been creatively editing yours, I choose to creatively edit my own. Steve espinola * LOL!~!!!!! ROFLMFAO!!!! OK, pay attention ``Steve``: Notice above how many people thank me for my edits? Now look below...see how many people gripe at you for yours? Hmm...I still have trouble figuring out why a single person would become your advocate but I guess every one needs an attorney no matter what the crime. Thanks for making this page even more vibrant. — HopeSeekr of xMule (Talk) Mmmmmmbo good luck!!! I think your version is great Mmmmmmbo [this was left, unsigned, by User:Steve espinola at which pretty much solidifies that this user is also User:Mmmmmmbo. Can you please explain your edits to Biff Rose? They appear to express a negative POV towards the person. -Willmcw For willmcw I think its high time you stopped trying to rearrange my words. The information contained on the biff rose site colelcts the pertinent info. It is not a billboard for his achievements, but an overview of his career. I think records that were pressed and sold are of worth. Ones that were not around in copies more than fifty or a hundred are not. I've interviewed Rose, I know which ones sold and which ones didn't. You can beef up a discog with murky details, but it won't help the whole wiki crowd. Stop being bullheaded, and agressive, because though you've been given power through edits, you have also become that which you supposedly fight against. You are not allowing the newer versions of this piece to come to life, but instead are so closely guarding the information disseminated from within that you have become like a fascist. Terrible!!! [left unsigned by user:Steve espinola at ] Why do you delete the number of ``Carson`` appearances? Why are you deleting the name of his biggest song? What does it matter to you if the records sold 10 or 10,000 copies? Do you have some personal animus towards Rose? Please note that your personal feelings, and your personally-obtained interviews, should not be used to influence the article. It's a biography, and should present a comprehensive picture of his life. It's not a place to gain revenge on someone you don't like. -Willmcw I've copied this discussion to the talk:Biff Rose page. -Willmcw Any info deleted was moved from prominence to more esoteric reading of it, to make the article read better, and have a decent flow. That Rose was in Time magazine once in 1965 is not of note. That he wrote a song that was covered by both Tiny Tim and David Bowie is. That that song was co written Oscar winning musician Paul Williams is important. Also of note, it should be mentioned that Rose has disavowed the Williams connection in several interviews, until in late 2004 on his own website's message board he admitted he was falsefying William's own involvement in the song. But a small 200 word blurb in time 50 years ago is not of worth. As for Rose's appearnaces on Carson, there has been no reall connection with the amount of times Rose officially appeared on the show, and how many times he taped performances. He alleges, himself, that he appeared on the show 12 times. Producerss from the Tonight show remember him being on with much less regularity. Therefore, a distinction, to leave out embrassment, would be something like, ``Rose appeared with some level of regularity on the tonight show in the end of the decade.`` Of note> Rose was banned from any more performances on the Tonight Show because he refused to cut to a commercial break during his last performance, reciting a poem he often claimed as his own, which in fact was a poem by Paul Newman's uncle, Joseph Newman. This was chalked up to Rose's irrascible nature. I think it is important to notice to, the anger that first rears its head here, and then seems to pop up, on the record he did in 73, and beyond, to his later self released recordings where Rose is heard calling african americans niggers, and making fun of the jewish religion, citing Hit5ler as a genius, who clearly had a vision. Willmcw is trying to keep the previous words someone else wrote about Rose being a child molester, which were clearly vandalism. I did not write that, and the anti semitic sentiments attributed to Rose are very easily found in his records and his websites. Willmcw is a vandal and works against my own edits in a nasty and un wiki fashion.Steve espinola Greetings Greetings and welcome to wikipedia. Please excuse the rude treatment you've received from the administrator who has engaged most of your attention thus far. He has a bad habit of disregarding Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers, especially where a newcomer has made edits to an article or subject he deems to be his territory. You should not let a hostile reception deter you from participating here and I hope you will stay. While editing I encourage you to review Wikipedia's policies and guidelines located here. Please make a good faith attempt at abiding by each, and if you believe that another user you have encountered is not doing so a proper recourse is to inform him/her of it. Thanks and welcome once again. Rangerdude I don't think that this is a new user. -Willmcw A hunch that somebody's a returnee, absent clear proof, is no basis to harass him or her. Unless you have proof and are prepared to make a case of it, please assume good faith. Rangerdude I'm not harassing anyone. I came to his talk page to ask him to not delete material from an article. The fact that he is using a different username today didn't seem like sufficient reason to call out the welcome wagon. But you go right ahead if you like. Cheers, -Willmcw Revert warning You are in danger of violating the three revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. -Willmcw REad this Willmcw, I understadn yo uare trying to avoid vandalism, but by manipulating this site into your view you promote FASCISM. MY edits are good on the subject of Biff Rose. Look at his website, research his recordings. Time magazine has written numerous articles, are these mentioned in other wiki posts... NO. So why here? As for Rose's self released recordings, I did a favor to you by listing them. Are Other performers non accesible recordings listed? NO. Do a better job editing and less of one POlicing because you stink at it. [left, unsigned, by user:Steve espinola on Redirect The article at Biff rose is improperly-titled because it is not capitalized correctly. Please leave it as a redirect to the properly-named article. Thank you. -Willmcw What the? Hey, why are you reverting my edits and removing the photo of Biff Rose? I found a separate article on the same topic (where you seemed to be the main author), incorporated the main points from it in an attempt to mege them. Someone later redirected it. Why are you deleting my additions? Marcuse However much I abhor racism, anti-semitism, etc. I think that whatever Biff Rose currently espouses seems more like it should be taken with a grain of salt. Not quite the same as David Duke. I have no problem with these things outlined in his bio, but it should really not have the form as something showing a personal point of view. It seems like the way the article was, was fairly balanced, showing both old and new aspects of the artist. And let the quotes and links speak for themselves. Why did
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== Napoleon's Penis == Is there any truth to the legend about his penis being preserved in a jar ? I found this article about is
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` Are you someone's ``Toy Boy``? Is that what your alias alludes to? What right have you with no physics credentials to dare to judge a PhD in physics with 45 years in the field? The world is growing stupid. Anti-Gray wrote about the Wikitors ``YOU MIGHT BE A PSEUDOSCIENTIST IF: 1) You believe your subscription to Analog provides the necessary background to argue with PhD scientists. 2) You think ``real`` science is mostly developed in garages or hobby rooms. 3) You think scientists are inflexible to changing paradigms (using one of pseudoscientists' favorite terms). See definition of ``Science.`` 4) You think the government, big business, or traditional scientists are in a conspiracy to prevent the pseudoscientists from showing the ``truth`` to the rest of the world, motivated by such movies as ``Chain Reaction.`` 5) You think science is purely to start a business and make money. 6) You think it's cool to announce impossible-sounding claims to the media without a peer review process (see #4 above), expository discussion, or other legitimizing process. You may believe the US Patent Office is a legitimizing process, if they aren't in conspiracy with #4 above. 7) You're aiming for the Einsteinian turn-science-upside-down revolution of thought and universal understanding, based on your two years of high school physics and a copy of Omni magazine. 8) You think highly suspicious behavior is actually the way people protect themselves from intellectual theft. 9) Your ego is large enough to tell the world that its understanding of the universe has always been wrong, and your fantastic, undocumented, unverified, unrecorded, and unreproducable experiment proves it. 10) Your college degree (if you have one) and your pseudoscientist interests have absolutely nothing in common. For instance, you may be arguing about fusion with a PhD in nuclear physics (and inflating your ego by doing so), while you only have a degree in zoology.`` Latest from Sarfatti about the Ira Einhorn case jpg of CIA Memo of 1963 by Richard Helms on Soviet Paranormal R&DNEWLINE;_TOKENand Clandestine Services ``Most of Ira's book is like reading Casanova, about his erotic exploits with women in Ireland. I have no doubt they are true, but the tales, though entertaining at first quickly grow weary if one is not a teenager or an Oprah addict. They are irrelevant, except to prove that Ira did not smell. Women were attracted to him. He did not smell at all when I met him in 1974. Ira's understanding of ``free energy`` and his reference to Tom Bearden are not to my liking because the physics is wrong. However, his connections to the Yugoslavs in 1977 when Holly was murdered, the Shah of Iran's family and many of his political activities made him many powerful enemies with the motive and opportunity to frame him and to weaken the movement he was spearheading. Ira's account of a UFO close encounter rings true. Note Ira's mention of Michael Murphy, Kit Green and Jacques Vallee. For ``free energy`` read ``zero point vacuum energy``. Ira is not a physicist and he was fooled by disinformation agent Colonel Tom Bearden whose claims are worthless. At that time I had not yet figured out the physics of what Ira was after. He was my book agent and I was one of his network of ``300`` that corresponds also to http://stardrive.org/cartoon/spectra.html I would not solve the paranormal physics Russian psychotronics weapons problem of DCI Richard Helms until the mid 1990's, i.e. the necessity of signal nonlocality from ``two way relation`` between pilot BIT wave and IT particle ``hidden variable`` and the consequent replacement of micro-quantum theory with the macro-quantum theory of ``More is different`` emergent systems. I would not solve the UFO problem until 2001 when the meaning of ``dark energy`` for ``metric engineering warp and wormhole`` dawned on me as through the glass darkly. The glass is getting less opaque.`` A copy of Sarfatti's PhD degree is in open directory http://qedcorp.com/APS/ -SIGNED BY Jack Horner no more sitting in The Corner on Sept 25, 2005 10:20 PM Pacific Coast Time`
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Blues vs. Gospel: The Battle of the Century Hey, Rob! I just wanted to say that in spite of are increasingly heated discussion of Blind Willie Johnson, I am enjoying conversing with someone who shares my passion for blues (gospel, soul, jazz, ragtime...). You are obviously knowledgable in the music you so fiercely defend. I'd like to know a little more about youare you planning on putting together a user page? I hope our equal passion for (and inevitable disagreement over) the music of BWJ, John Hurt, Blind Lemon Jefferson, etc will connect us as allies rather than force us to be enemies! -
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OK, now I am looking here, which seems to suggest that only 8 million people were eligible to vote, and that only 3 million did vote. This can't be correct. Can someone explain this?
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:I don't feel this way. From my perspective, you just bulldozered over DES and everyone else who disagreed. From now on, use the talk page if you want to have a discussion. If the majority disagrees, accept this and move on. Don't vandalize and page blank because you got mad. You have no idea what I writing. and I am not the one who added the lguistic stub to the article, someone else did. If you are asking to take out the stub, then this is a very differnet thing.
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Wikipedia is also not a soapbox either.
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` What the hell does that mean? Talk English not Wiklish. Are you some kind of homomorph? -) As to RoyBoy, he is not very good at checking his facts. Even a cursory Google would show that Jonathan Sarfatti and Jack Sarfatti are not the same person and live on different continents. Notice how silent the Great Mathematician Dr. Hillman is in the light of Nobel Prize physicist Brian Josephson's remark above putting him in his proper place and in Hillman's inability to respond to Sarfatti's detailed argument above. It is not enough to bluster ``it's nonsense``. Burinski will also respond he is not on e-mail all the time. None of your facts check out. Everything Sarfatti has said is the truth and his arguments on the physics have not been refuted. You people not only have no respect for truth, you simply cannot even perceive it because this information is too advanced for all of you - even Chris Hillman who is not a physicist although he is a mathematician of sorts - he admits he is not even interested in quantum theory so he should recuse himself if he were really honest. Brian Josephson wrote the reality above. SIGNED JackHorner from The Corner 11:42 Pacific Time Sept 25, 2005`
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\Archive user talk:Steve espinola
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:::I wasn't aware Sarfatti's Ph. D. was under dispute. Has anyone questioned that? In any case, in terms of verifiability, jpg is silly; it's better for me to just check the records more directly. I don't see the need, but if anyone is actually skeptical of this, I can check.
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Yes, it is recentism. In fact it's futurism. The Katrina rebuilding program hasn't even started in earnest. The Rove-haters SOP is to creatively invent a narrative where somehow, some way, Rove is linked to or responsible for every sordid event in recent American history from Watergate to 911. Katrina is just the latest tragedy they want to smear him with. Too bad this kind of demagoguery doesn't fly here. Newsflash: Wikipedia is not a rat's nest for purely partisan attacks no matter how hard some may try to make it so.
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Great! I'm greatly excited that you are greatly happy for the great job I'm gonna do!! I can't wait to get to Jesse's article and will begin doing so just as soon as my edits to the Rove article quit getting reverted. Currently I'm all tied up here fighting off partisans who insist on smearing Rove with unsubstantiated and unsupported attacks. Won't you join me in my efforts to keep this Rove piece free from POV so I can be liberated to work on Jackson's article? By your own admission, in helping me keep the Rove article free of smears, you'll be part of the process of creating a great impartial Wikipedia!
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` The problem being, my friend, that you are not a specialist in that field, and have been posting for over a month in YBM's private forums, and are a very big fan and socket puppet of his. The second problem being that your extensiv scientifical ``evidencies``, well supplied above, contain absolutly nothing who don't have been mentioned, and I should say ``supposed``, earlier, already at the beginning of 2004, and abundently refutated since, and that all those counterproofs dismantled all the attacks from the scientifical part of the accusators, and that it was then agreed that it was more a question of specialisation differences than of direct misunderstanding of existing theories, or gross ignorancies of basic physic. Thats what make Cosmology a specific part of advance physic. Your field being not Cosmology nor Higher physic nor Theoretical Physic, it will have been better if you had first consulted with a ``collegue`` from the department of Theoretic Physic, before you posted here, or even before you made up your opinion about the Bogdanovs work. You made already plenty of that kind of mistakes also in the french wiki about this case, and no, we are not impress at your ability to repeat yourself and others statements without correction alredy brought by other scientifics. Links: http://groups.google.fr/group/sci.physics.research/msg/6cd4ff740c84b2c http://groups.google.com/group/fr.sci.astrophysique/msg/8a71f677ceb92c50?hl=en&NEWLINE;_TOKEN http://groups.google.com/group/fr.sci.physique/browse_thread/thread/4fa2fdfa624f6722/669c56784faf5681?lnk=st&q;=Sur+quelques+erreurs+de+YBM&rnum;=1&hl;=en http://groups.google.com/group/fr.sci.physique/msg/669c56784faf5681?hl=en http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fabien.besnard/bogdanoff.htm http://groups.google.com/group/fr.sci.physique/tree/browse_frm/thread/8a5253c3c7ab5ae4/c737b21c1f305c84?utoken=F4NLBDIAAAD-55KQrAqsvC7XQgbM6O-8ww-I-AULMJ-v880tKl4IqgYWfkOF69nRg2MTU_ZlqDxkSG9p011IxMJMvLoSwglF&hl;=en&rnum;=141 http://groups.google.com/group/fr.sci.physique/tree/browse_frm/thread/8a5253c3c7ab5ae4/3201c2e5eac45c09?rnum=121&hl;=en&_done=%2Fgroup%2Ffr.sci.physique%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F8a5253c3c7ab5ae4%2F5dd4af0aaf79502a%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26rnum%3D1%26prev%3D%2F%26frame%3Don%26 http://groups.google.com/group/fr.sci.physique/browse_thread/thread/8a5253c3c7ab5ae4/540ff3bd08f120ca?lnk=st&q;=&rnum;=2&hl;=en&utoken;=ovx8CzIAAAD-55KQrAqsvC7XQgbM6O-8ww-I-AULMJ-v880tKl4IqqEI81y7bnl3NrQIcGjIQcJU6ZMHNcY-sKSigexB1LaK `
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==Borealis== Yes, de borealis sol is ungrammatical; but I think you are prescribing more than Latin does: the ablative of i-stems is variable; compare turris/turre. Also, while I cannot think of a compact way to put this (or I would have) the intention of the anagrammatist may be to use borealis, correctly, as a genitive (although there is also the dreadful possibility that this is dictionary-Latin, ignoring inflexions entirely).
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- Thats what I call a clear sign of arbitrarity syndrom. But of course knowing that Geogre, Bishonen, r-b-j, Alain rialezo, were all formed at ybm's speedy teaching at his brain wash institute from day one and even before they came to se this page, it makes a lot of sense, you were yourself teached at georgre sonnet, that you rebaptised and tryed yourself at it, whith subject: a clear anti Bogdanovs statements filled with insults. How delightfull. When a talk page has less than 50% user, (yes I talk as loudly as a Dragon, and feroucly as a lion, but I still count for one person!) understanding really the matter and defending the facts, while the rest is ranting against hugly supported by all the admi without eception, this make it to a 90 against 10 % battle when not a 1 out of 1.000 chance to get our point through. You have to choose between acting as an admi or acting as a member of the YBMs' gang, you can't be both. So take side now, and remove your admi name skilt if you choose to pursue the defense of the yb-ms' pretenses. -
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` The arbitration comity has absolutly nothing to do with the actual gangs war who is going on in wiki and I demand your immediat removal from the case as completely unable to distinguish on this basic fact. You are of no good at all and I certainly do not wish for an arbitration comity to be formed of people who do not have any conscience nor ethic, nor sense of duty, and who don't even look at the case at hand nor read what the arbitration subject is about, before emitting their opinionated evaluations and sentences. So rest in peace and might you not be resurected ever. ::::: BTW, XAL (or ``Sophie`` or whomever you are), I usually don't read your rantings (I responded to your post above that ended with the sweet ``let's work together as a team`` because it didn't sound like a rant), but this was pointed to me. ::::: In fact, I was blocked for 24 hours along with Igor by , for 3RR violation. but there is a difference: I submitted to the block, I didn't go unregistered and find another IP to post anyway, but Igor did not submit to it. he refused to abide by and posted to this talk page above ``Dear Marudubshinki...`` This suggests that Igor believes he is above the rules. the 3RR doesn't apply to him, does it? ::::: this reminds me of a time when i was a kid and we were saying ``table grace`` before our meal. my parents told us all that we had to be reverend, bow our heads, and close our eyes when we were praying our table prayer. well, i left mine open and so did my much younger brother and when the prayer was over, he immediately tattled on me saying to our parents that ``Bob didn't close his eyes for the prayer.`` geee, how did he know? ::::: well, it was Igor who made the complaint of the many reversions of mine and the admins decided (correctly) that he was reverting just as often as i was and the blocked us both. but since the rules don't apply to Igor, he went and posted (using IP address for instead of logging in to his account) anyway. it seems to me that the timing of this refusal to abide by his block was coincidental to when Snowspinner's tolerance for Igor's arrogance hit his/her limit and that's when the ``excrement`` really hit the fan for Igor. ?????rjb or whomever you are, I am the alone one ever in wiki on this case, both english and french who has posted with her full name and adress and telephon number and private emails, twice, and referes most of the time with both ip adress and real name, even before I had my own registration name on wiki, so suck your puppets! if cyber leaking make it possible you will soon get a 3D experience with Maharishi Maesh Yogi YBM dito Jean Perre Voyer dito leuven dito mister Rupley. {Replay!} supra transcendental levitations..... As the following identical chain of server adress shows. Return-Path: Received: from mail101.telia.com (mail101.telia.com [194.255.56.74]) by d1o110.dk.telia.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2431E30EB for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:06:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.4.2 Received: from smtp6.wanadoo.fr (smtp6.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.25]) by mail101.telia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908353E8DD Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0602.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2A6301C000A7 Received: from loto (Mix-Rouen-115-2-17.w80-9.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.9.55.17]) by mwinf0602.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 022201C000C4 X-ME-UUID: 20050915130632886.022201C000C4@mwinf0602.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <000b01c5b9f8$afd00240$11370950@loto> From: ``M. Rupley`` and a propos transcendental, what about this sensational emails' content, source of YBMs' ``facts`` about the matter, sometime I wonder if PH is that far..? Yes, this is where ybm seek the truth: A propos de l'affaire Bogdanov, je vous recommande — puisque je suis mis en demeure, alors que je n'ai jamais pris part à cette affaire, par la folle qui n'est pas Simone Weil — ces deux liens A story of quotation marks, ``transcendental`` rational numbers and Photoshop (en) Une histoire de guillemets, de nombres rationnels « transcendants » et de Photoshop (fr) où il paraît, grande première dans le monde de l'édition, que l'éditeur des Bogdanov utilise Photoshop pour produire ses différentes épreuves avant impression. J'ai travaillé dix-huit
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` Isn't it what you ususally say each and every time? specially when dévoilé? and isn't it also what you do together with imposing a title when I write a thing who is too true too close to what you can't accept? You have inserted a title on my article and you do not have the right to do so. It is exactly what you did for exactly a month ago to my article concerning your cooperation with Jean pierre Voyer, calling it repeatidly garbage, deleeting it and having me banned for telling the truth. Thats how you met your énglish connection circle of friend on wiki admi board, like Geogre, Bishonnen, snowboard, Maru, and rjb. All I say is always prooven right, and if ``so easely proven false`` so why didn't you do it so right away, we all know that if you really could thats what you will have really done...not talk about doing., and that when you pretend to can but dont do, it means that you can't do it, you can't proove it wrong, but you can rename it revert it, call it garbage, and the like, braf, you are acting like an impotent thinker! And all my links are statements from laurent and yourself: his scientifical destruction of all arguments and evidencies stated above, and your answer to it, very known answer I should add,: ``I don't care if I am wrong, and I don't care about what you say, I will always stand the same things no matter what!``. YBM - june 2004 - Well, clap, clap, and life goes on, my dear, with such a statement we do know whith what we have to do, like say my friend, a french psychanalist that I put on your case, and who has been studying your profile on the network for a little while. Gee! you are sô on! -`
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== Regarding Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/BigDaddy777 == Since you have begun interacting with Bigdaddy again , and endorsed the original RfC , I thought you might be interested to know that since the dispute resolution process has stalled due to BigDaddy's refusal to respond to this RfC, some are now questioning whether an RfAr should be filed. Your comments on this new issue would be appreciated.
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:Hi Expansion...the people that want to cram everything together, have never added one edit to the Dog Fighting article, they are just trolls...forget about them
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` Dear bishonen, here you are again, weren't you forbidden to pollute this talk page anymore by your corupted interventions and arbitrary deleeting and bans? Your actions, as they have always been, are completely discussfull and under all criticisms. You are nothing but a little stupid idiot coming and called by ybm as he was ban and not by you! of course, for going again against the 3RR rule, and for having insulted enormously people. You know of course that people following ybm are called by him and his Voyer ``Idiots``? or did you forgot? so pay a visit to his website and get a free trip to wake-up land. All my interventions were absolutly relevant and I am the alone person on this talk page acting like a real admi would! I came as you certainly didnt read it, with a proposition who was suppose to bring an end to all this mess, but ybm and rjb and your friend snowboard and Maru just made it worse. I have responded to attacks,and certainly not in the same distorded way who is so familiar to them and to you to express themselves, and your removal of my post is a censorship, a compleete censor of my words who are the truth but who disturb you, You are the valey of ybm and nothing else and seems to enjoy it. YBM has called Igor Bogdanov a Bastard twice a short time before you blocked me, you have no rights to do so and your excuse about having warn me a lot before is working a little thin don't you think? i do not have been warned ever ever ever ever by you. Post warning is no warning. You should be kicked out from wiki as you are absolutely unable to work as an admi. This latest action of yours is so discustfull and after you and your boyfreind Geogre alredy did against me this is a Hetz and compleete harassement that you perform only because you know Nicky turnbull to be away for a wild. You are so disraspectfull of the minimum of ethic and morality, and the minimum of truth and honnesty that I have no business talking with a ``person`` with such a low standard. You are completely corrupted and a stain on wikis'reputation. Shame on you!! `
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::You guyz are all just Elf-Masher wannabes ! None of you have contributed one word to the Dog fighting article and none of you even know about Dog Fighting.....Do Any Of You Know Have Any Elves I Can Mash??
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` == MY STATEMENT == AND WHAT IS IT I DID EXACTLY TO BE BANNED? WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN? You are obviously not aware of what is goinf ´g on I am ban for not contributing at all with the talk page!! what ? I am the one who asked for this mediation for more than 2 weeks ago and it was for something else than that and this snowskinner who was asked to bring the arbitration knows it perfectly. And i am the one working out ot bring the two best cosmolog in the world to look at those thesis, ans I am the one who did contributed the most in this affair together with Igor Bogdanov, at the refute of those falsifications of evidencies presented here by ybm and his acolytes. I was ban because ybm had been ban and couldn't stand it. But where he was ban 24 hours for insulting repaeatridly people and calling Igor Bogdanov a bastard 3 times and for having on several occassions oversteped the 3RR rule, I was ban 3 x 24 hours for having presented an article who was evaluated by Bidhonene who is a very endeared friend of YBM, for not being so usefull as she wish. An article containing of course a serie of evidenscies who didn't have been shown before, and who constiture a major block against the conspiratorial arguments of ybm and his gang. Just as she did it here on my talk page when she deleeted it all, and vnever reinserted it, a precious document proving the ´factual connection between YBM and this Voyer who infatuated this whole affair. It was YBM who had invited his friend on my talkpage, until he realized that i had an arbitration going on that was about this. Bishonen blocked me 20 minutes after her protegé had been blocked. i dont see any of her interventions in this talk page concerning the insults of rjb and ybm, nor concerning their cynical and very empty and longs comments about my mediation on the talk page tonight. You can read my articles yourself and see how hard I was fighting to make sure that the situation will not degenerate further, and to calm down the spirit. She didn't make an intervention there to ask rjb and ybm to stop their acction and provocating attitudes, nor accused them for saying nothing nor removed their articles for not improving the talk page, nor contributing with anything on it. She has already been told to don't interfeer anymore on this talk page because she is unable to differentiate between her liking and her work as an admi. She does not follow the rules and do a very destructiv work, using retaliation and arbitrarious judgement all the time, and always something who arranged ybm very much. She even do revert for him and use her status to commit illegitimate stuff. The arbitration should have been about this too. They are using the fact that mediator Nicholas turnbull is out for a week to do their bad deeds. And this snowsnippers know that what he does is out of hand, and that he should never have done it. He even insulted Nicholas turnbull. Easy when people aren't there to defend themselves. Wiki english is a spot on the face of Wikipédia, admi are behaving like sabotors and vandaliser and encourage riot, and abuse of their knoledge and power to undermine actions made to refrein their wrong doing. This has to stop. I asked for a mediation and an arbitration comity for more than two weeks and Sowspinners actions are completely unlegitimate. He has stollen MY mediation and MY arbitration request. This don't go and has to be aborted. I do not recognise the actual arbitration for being legitimate, and thereby ask all to boycot it. None of the involved administrator can in anyway be part of the arbitration comity or of the arbitration. It is a close debate and not an arena game. THis arbitration was supposed to be hold secret, as snowspinner knows very well, and took some very unlucky initiatives from the very beginning. He is an idiot to have done that, and has no sens of responsability, nor of maturity, and cannot be trusted. He must be removed as well. i dont accept what happened tonight. There was absolutly no reasons for me to be blocked and certainly not for 3 days. If I say fuck! like ybm nothing happen, but if I bring precious evidencies, so I am ban and the evidencies confiscated and destroy yes, and detroyed as they have been alredy here several times. This is the sign of a totalitarian system, and wiki english has became a totalitarian system, where the judged perform the judgement, and were all proofs are stollen and destroyed and were disturbing people are threaten for their meaning and impert to say more, and blocked away. To say what you did, you can only be one of those people who repeat non stop what the one before them just sayed, but will not dream of looking at the matter himself, just as bishonene did fronm the beginning and will not dream to do even now. She is a liar who know perfectly the degree of illegitimacy of her actions and who nonetheless pretend as if it was all perfectly legitimate. She should be definitively banned from wikipedia and so should Maru be who has constantly provocate people and insert insulting commentars together with this rjb, empty statements, and dirty tricks like using admi tools and pretending being one, when in fact he wasn't and had been placed there by Bishonnen to put the mess. Bishonnen is forbidden on the Bogdanovs talkpage and has there fore absolutely no rioghts to come on that alk page to banish me as I have an ongoing arbitration against her deeds against me and her lack of objectivity. I do not accept what happened and asked for an excuse, the total removal of my ban and the reinsertion of my article. It is the second time in one month that an a very informativ and corroborated article of mine is removed from the talk page because of his very informativ contain and the danger that those represent for the validity of YBMs' pretended Bogdanovs Affair. He made this affair up through manipulations. I communicate the following message to a person who will take the case into own hands: << Dear XXX Nick Turnbull went away for a week last night, and immediatly a admi Snowspinner baned igor for ever from the talkpage.. I had just made a proposition where I was informing that I had contacted Prof. in theoretic physic at Niels Bohr institut Holger Beck Nielsen, to stude the Bogdanovs thesis and by this way end all this affair by having a definitiv evaluation of it by the highest specialist on that matter in the world, together with Stephen W. Hawking. To this user rjb answered with cynicisnm and very useless and insulting commentars... The same from ybm, who also called Igor a bastard 3 times and other insults, and reverted like a maniac, and rjb called me and all users who diagreed with him for socket puppet and what they sayed for being excrements. I also had doen a lot to calm down the fights who were going on like creazy. YBM was blocked by an admi, at 5:15 PM, for revert, and bishonen blocked me without reasons 30 minutes later..!!??! She also removed my article who seemed to disturb YBM a lot. They both had made series of intervention on my articles, in the middle of it, too, so that I had on several occassions to remind them about wiki rules regarding that, and to undo their actions later on. Also user Maru, with some kind of admi permissions, did the same and also made some really discouraging and stupids comments to my proposition settlement, and it was really hugly. At the same time that Bishonnen blocked me, admi snowspinner open an arbitration of the page.. Now it comes: I had asked for the arbitration comity since two weeks and was working on it with mediator Nicholas Turnball who had taken care of the mediation and closed it down a few days ago exactly because I was going to bring it to the arbitration comity. He wrote me yesterday, telling me he was away for a week, and snowspinner recognized having been asked by Nicholas Turnbull to bring my mediation to the arbitration comity. He sayed, inside the talkpage about the bogdanov, that he didn't do so because he figured out that by banishing Igor from the site it will bring an end to the story...!!!!!!!!!? But, as I told you, short time AFTER bishonen had blocked me, so snowspinner opened the arbitration but not about the case I had presented for arbitration 2 weeks ago, but about the ongoing war on the talk page who was very much pushed up by Maru, snowspinner, and latest bishonen. It is absolutely unconceavable that an arbitration I have been asking for since a month, is now made about an all together different subject by a newbee just arrived on the site, having banished Igor from the moment he entered the site around midnight last night . Bishonen did as if she didn't knew, and asked if she should upheav my ban. And guess what, Mardu answer no, a user who put a big mess there since the 22 of sept saying he was an admi, placed there by...Bishonen! And I thought that this kind was finished but it is continuing over and over again and again. Nobody believes me. The same people who are doing it in fact, so no surprise. I ask for the suspension of Bishonen. This is going too far. Do you know what they gave as a reason not to upheav my block? that ``I didn't participate with anything usefull to all the talk page and that all my articles are rant and that my stuff is useless anyway`` exactly what they used before, a month ago, and what bishonen again and again use as reason for removing my articles, without any proove for that, a
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If he disputes the content then he should not be reverting edits and removing content of other users. He can add his content and the two can be verified with the cited sources.
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Request for WP:RFM opened on lulu
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` ``Sollog type character`` is a personal attack of Merkey. `
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I dedicate this article my several Apostle's who do so enjoy following their God around the Wiki ! Do You Have Any Elves I Can Mash
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P.S. Do You Have Know Any Elves I Can MASH ??
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.....Do Any Of You Know Have Any Elves I Can Mash??
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== Pictures == Someone could upload a good picture... zzzzzzus
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== edit block request == In here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:212.30.31.8 you threatened a block if vandalism continued. It has: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target;=212.30.31.8 (And I think you're an admin who can actually do the block.) ( Sorry for the bother.
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If Ophelia counts as a mainland landfall then it qualifies for a US landfall. It didn't hit anywhere else. ::::
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* You have also said that the 250,000 figure was mine, this is not the case, i have told you that but you just keep ignoring the fact that you were wrong.
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` :Yes, Brandon, I am sure there is. But as you and I both know God and only God will judge on the last day. The verse the user keeps citing so hopelessly refers to Jesus' role in his second coming, and has nothing to do with the day of judgement. So, yes you are absolutely right about him not acting as a judge. Anyways the issue has been solved despite the anon IP (70.21) user's failure to admit that he/she was wrong. Thanks, `
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` :::::::::Not only that, you are also wrong, this is not just an English dictionary. As you stated on your user talk page ``I'm still learning how to use Wikipedia`` and ``I don't underatand all of this professional lingo``, so please try to stick to simple editing until you learn more in the future. `
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I am not merkey, I am his attorney, and I will edit all I please.
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