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once again, stop vandalizing this page: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philosophy2
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` == Yup! == This is not really that big of a deal, seeing as how i've made two edits in the last month; but I would like to state for the record that this just doesn't seem ``fair.`` What you did basically infriged upon the authority of the Arb-Com. `
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` == Goodbye everybody == And what on earth is wrong about this article, specially if settet back where it originally belongs? I do not accuse people to be socket puppet, I do not insult them with harsh and very illustrativ words, I do not call their articles for garbage or for saying nothing usefull, or for being idiots, nor ignorant, nor do I pretend that they do not contribute with anything on the talk page and never did, nor do I revert other users contributions, as YBM and rjb specially and mainly, as well as some other new users on the page like Maru that night and previous days did, and som other users belonging to the same side of the story. If I had to be banished for that so had ybm and rjb and maru too and for a much longer period of time and their text to be removed, in fact all of them that night, as they didn't say much else but cynical and fruitless comments on other people works and destructiv critiscism who wasn't justify. I tried more than 4 times to make them come v´back to ttheir mind and to sopt healding oil to the fire, but it didn't helped. They just had too much fun harrassing users all around the talk page, unpunished. An objectiv analyse of the page will not only take much time but will most certainly show how true what I state here is. There is a text that I do not found, an article with the copy/paste of the writting exchange between me and mister Jean Pierre Voyer, where he clearly stated his doing in this affair and his cooperation with YBM in the making of falsification of evidencies, and his arrogancy and proudness in doing so, added some discrepencies in his words and a major amount of respectlessness, and you have the picture of the person behind this all story. I also received private mails from a mister Rupley, who is (which is) the name of one of YBMs' web site with plenty of litteracy of the kind of Voyer, and with links to Luven, also an ybms' website of the kind. It does not concern the Bogdanovs affair, but concentrate on the theories who corroborate the making of such a fake story and its justifications in doing so. It's a hobby of some sort, like some like Shakespeare or a special branch of philosophy or politic or a sub for us mostly unknown special branch of a political - philosofical - opinionated - with social ramification kind of organisation, touching a very small group of individuals inclosed in their believes. There is plenty of the like all over the world, their reason for adding to those ideas are those people life and choices, which I do respect, but in that case, those idiosyncrasies (thats my own choice of denomination and not theirs)are being punched ininto the reality of a lot of people and involved real ideas. I think of course about the balancing act of inplanting those high flying ideas to the reality of the thousands of internet users by imposing their vues inthis Bogdanov affair. By vues I do not mean the apparent version of the fact given by YBM about the validity of the actual thesis. No. It isn't what it is about. It is more complex than that. It is about playing with people reactions in a situation of confrontations and playing with lies. Creating stories, ideas, like gossips who have no bund in the rality but who will nonetheless create a reaction in the people who are witnessing it at the time, and build on further from those reactions, and add more and more stuff to keep the tension and the artificial affair going on. It might not be as complicated as it sounds to bring those ideas to live, as it very quickly get a dynamic of its own who keep repeating itself, if some element are implemented along the way. It has roll this way for 2 years now, and the scenario are pretty much the same from a Forum to another. One can see the same scenarios coming up, the same elements who keep coming back, the same strange behaviours at odd time, and the same surprising reactions when prooven wrong: a war take place, fill with denials, wild accusations, insults, personnal attacks, anything goes type of scenarios, with a lot of drama and tension in it, and many people getting injured, and leaving too. mostly those who came with the unbeatable arguments as I saw it so many times on fr. physic, from june to november 2004. Looking at it after without having a part of it, give the priviledged view of the whole thing in a very short period of time , in one view, and here all those flaws are very obvious and it seems estonishing that nobody noticed it at the time. The game is very clear that way, and it was clear for me that there was something wrong going on, something who wasn't right, a mismatch. And i seek after what it could be. It was evident that the main person involved didn't have clean floor in his bag, and that he was hidding something but also that he was clearly lying and very ``good`` at it, very good at manipulating groups and opinion too. It was estonishing to see how easely people get involved in it and how easely they were turned around, convinced, by the most unusual methods. Threats and insults about their level of education, them as a person, their intelectual level, their degree og´f idiotie, and also by understating that he wasknowing much more than all the other and had a higher educational grad in the field at hand. Not by saying it directly, but by leading to it, in a very pompous way. It was amazing, he was really insulting people talking low to them, trating them like inferiors being, and they were saying sorry, and agreeing with him and folowing him. Very interesting stuff for psy students and the rest, but for the time being very usefull to know to understand the whole thing and how it has been building up. References to those forums is the key, to make it looking more real more true. And after 2 years there is a lot of them, mostly build by him, and none of them without the omnipresence of YBM, which is the Hic of the story. For if it is true and happened all by itself without the help of ybm nor Voyer nor max nor Ronulphe, his associates, howcome it diesn't exist one forum previous to those or parallel to those who discused the matter without their presence in it? It should be expected. But the claim is not met. The affair does start with YBm, and with Epiphyse. Before that, it was a closed incident. Many scientifics have asked why should a thesis make such a big mark when there is thousand of thesis presented and defended every year and that not one of them is completely free from errors and that it is expected from a thesis. Why? Because this one was choosen to put in application their post situationistics trip. The second in line, after 2 years exercise on the internet with 2 other writers, YBM was now ready to grab a bigger beaf. The Bogdanov, it was ideal, celebrity, attention warranty, also from the media, and this was taken care of as this Voyer has worked in the media, for a newspaper in France during many years, as he was stating it himself in his letter adressed to me. This letter that I published a few minutes before being blocked, and who isn't to be found now, or so it seems. If Bishonen didn't removed it, then, who did? Those articles were and still are used as proofs by YBM, who have had the kindness to make them all available for us on the internet. It is quiet incredible that so many people eat the story for so long, and understandable that some people add to this kind of way to use and dispense their intelligence, instead of earn for a living. What is disturbing and unacceptable, is the consequences that this joke of theirs had and still have on the first people concerned by it, and on those who were broght onto it along the way. I understand that many people who first heared of it and where practically only given the informations provided by YBM as a main source of information, did believe him, and didn't see a croock in him but some kind of hero of the truth. What I understand less and less is that they can stay seduced by his word when they witness his methods, words, allegations, insults, denials, and can see that all might not be as it seems. Lets take a recent exemple, who in fact is a replication of what happened for exactly one month ago: I purposed a settlement that I had mentioned 2 days before but who had went unoticed. I explain it better, and its purpose is to settle the affair once and for all by having undisputable best world expert in cosmology to take a look at the thesis and give his opinion about it. The reception was like a joke one hear at the local pub. No question asked, no propositions, no agreement about it, only destructivs comments and total bagatellisation of it. It is the most constructiv proposal ever made here and in this affair, and who seek to cut the chase and be real. Once this expert has spoken, so nothing more need to be sayed. The case will be definitelly closed. YBM and rjb should be glad, all detractors should be pleased to death by this piece of news, finally they are going to be prooved true. Now there is an end to their suffering, the truth will prevail. But no, not interested, opposit I got the very surprising reaction from rjb that he is going to contact his own specialist, like if it was some kind of competition I was at. It estonished me as this reaction made no sens at all. So I tried to explain to him a little better. but no no no, he came with his specialist, a recent figure in YBMs' blackboard of trophee. Un chercheur du CNRS. Who made a very thorough filling of the talk page with a list of errors who had been seen many tiems argumented that way, and contraargumented on some forums, but also on...Wiki! french about the same subject and by the sam
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` == Art Gallery last 2 days in wiki == Here is a collection of some of the violations who were never punished but were covereted, and something usefull to compare it with. In reverse chronographical order: (...) this is entirely in the style of Igor. put your creditials out like Alain Riazuelo did, mr./ms. Parme. otherwise your ``timely`` appearance here can only be considered suspect. Igor is banned from editing an article about him and all sorts of new, unidentified people come out of the woodwork. r b-j OH MY GOD Alfredine de Parme, YOU there! It has been such a long time since the ... er, last time we met, hasn't it babe? I'm so glad to have some fresh news of yours, my dear! I see you moved upstairs, you damn little bugger. This is great! You see, I tell you: enjoy your duties, take advantage of everything you can. I will certainly not be the one who will jump here to remind everyone your responsabilities and failures as the secret occult unknown silent partner of the Rainbow Warrior sabotage. Past is past. Anyway, you're still in the process of trying to avoid the French (please, please, please remember English grammar rules concerning capital letters and country adjectives) government (let me remind you the math' lesson I taught you once: [first prime number] < [number of e letters in the English translation of the French word 'gouvernement'] < [number of r letters in the French word 'nourrir', translation of the English word 'feed'] - we had so much fun together!) to wash its dirty linen in public. I bet you're the best for that kinda job. Huge Kisses, my beloved Alfredine, I miss you and your marvelous Thai wheelbarrow as well. Gimme your DotGouv mail, I shall write you! ProfesseurYIN [Very contributing article to the talk page ] this is an absolute riot!! -) for a while i was really starting to regret getting into this mess, but this moment has redeemed all of the headache and pain in the derrier. thank you, Professeur Yin. thank you very much. (how's Yang doing?) r b-j - There. That line gets to sit here, I'm removing the rest of her post, anybody who likes can consult it via the History. XAL has been warned many times about insults and irrelevances on this page. I've been tolerating a lot of these things from her for the reason that the overall tone on the page is far from the ideal of civility, with some personal attacks by others, too. But this last post does it, as far as I'm concerned, it's time to free up the page for actual discussion. I'm blocking XAL for three days. Bishonen | talk 18:43, 26 September 2005 (UTC) - Reaction to 'a journey' by XAL (no, it's rotflol!!) r b-j [rjb always very interesting contribution ] The problem being, my friend, that you are not a specialist in that field, (no, it's ROTFLOL!!) r b-j [YBMs' contributions ] You are bastards. Now, why don't you try to address at least some of Alain Riazuelo's comments as well as some of the ones I did when you've proven not even knowing what an algebraïc curve is (for instance), making you Ph.D. a joke. YBM - C'mon guys. I know this is an emotional issue, but is it too much to ask that the few apparently rational participants refrain from personal attacks and calling each other bastards, or salauds or whatever? Maru (talk) [no block no suppression of the article, very good contribution to the contain of the talk page or?] - (...) did prove you've been using multiple pseudos on Usetnet and on the Web, then you had to admit it. As you did before you pretend me to do the same, you were wrong then (and you know it, since you've been in contact with all these people supposed to be me), you are still wrong. Noone care about you know or pretend to know, without any evidence to support it, disguish between your delusion or your lies is not our problem, but your psychiatrist's one. YBM I checked with their administrators, it was a proxy which had been installed on one of their computer without their consent this is a case of computing ressources hijacking) Pretending to have degrees at University and working as scientists in several laboratories Defending you work with no other arguments than authority You are cheaters, liers, fraudster and incompetent in almost any field. You'd better think twice before lying again in this page. YBM - LLL is only known for a week on the Internet part of your affair He/She appeared at the obvious call from Laurence who felt a bit lonely as a fan of two fraudsters who happen to be tv showmen He/She is a sock puppet. You'd better not talk about objectivity, honesty, and so on, since you don't even know what this words mean. All of you actions are obviously driven by your interest in shutting down the publication of your dirty tricks. YBM - (...) call someone who entered the discussion for a week (LLL) or more than a year (Laurence) and didn't write even once, even a word about the scientific content of the affair or the Bogdanov's behaviour ? Another specific of this affair is that we have to deal with ``fans`` who don't care about science and don't even want to hear a word about the scientific incompetence nor the dishonest tricks Igor and Grichka Bogdanov have been proven to use on a daily basis for years. Just like rock stars, they have some (not much) fanatic bigots making as much noise as possible around anyone contesting their idols. YBM - And, worst than anything, YBM's invention: the idiom ``human sock puppet``, also in order to feel free to revert me! This guy's dishonesty is not a surprise for me, of course, but the fact that other people support him and that administrators let him act as he wants seems to me to be more serious than the fact that somebody like him exists. Laurence67 - I know this LLL, I correspond regularly with him! So you can think what you want, but he's not a sock puppet! But YOU want to believe it is just in order to feel free to revert him! Yes, he ``appeard``, because he saw that Igor was banned, that you were a lot more numerous than we are, and that according to the 3RR we can't revert more than 3 times per day. So it's easy for you, all you have to do is to take it in turns to revert systematically when we publish. Is it the wikidian neutrality? The majority ``wins``? ``Sock puppets`` I confirm what Catherine (and even Snowspinner) have said: LLL is a ``real`` person, not a sock puppet. More generally, I find it is too easy to decide arbitrarily that any contributor who defends the Bogdanovs is a sock puppet, in order to have an excuse for reverting systematically his contributions, ``on sight``, as rbj has written. It is all the more unfair as he knows that the contributor is subject to the 3RR, while he thinks, rightly or wrongly, that he is not. Besides, I hope it's ``wrongly``: it would be the limit, if the rules were not the same for all contributors, and if some of these ones were protected from the sanctions at the expense of some others... Laurence67 BTW, XAL (or ``Sophie`` or whomever you are), I usually don't read your rantings (I responded to your post above that ended with the sweet ``let's work together as a team`` because it didn't sound like a rant), but this was pointed to me. In fact, I was blocked for 24 hours along with Igor by Ral315, for 3RR violation. but there is a difference: I submitted to the block, I didn't go unregistered and find another IP to post anyway, but Igor did not submit to it. he refused to abide by and posted to this talk page above ``Dear Marudubshinki...`` This suggests that Igor believes he is above the rules. the 3RR doesn't apply to him, does it? this reminds me of a time when i was a kid and we were saying ``table grace`` before our meal. my parents told us all that we had to be reverend, bow our heads, and close our eyes when we were praying our table prayer. well, i left mine open and so did my much younger brother and when the prayer was over, he immediately tattled on me saying to our parents that ``Bob didn't close his eyes for the prayer.`` geee, how did he know? well, it was Igor who made the complaint of the many reversions of mine and the admins decided (correctly) that he was reverting just as often as i was and the blocked us both. but since the rules don't apply to Igor, he went and posted (using IP address for instead of logging in to his account) anyway. it seems to me that the timing of this refusal to abide by his bl
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One word: Resupply. A life expectancy of 24 hours meant that one had to constantly ship more troops into the battle. The Red Army did, the Germans in 1945 could not. They were also often behind %:1 or even 10:1 in numbers and in 1945 they forces were to a large extentyoung teenagers, older men and invalides.
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` == Cultural Imperialism == Stating that the current cultural imperialism is ``unintentional`` and ``a side effect of capitalism`` and that ``government has no role on the industries`` of culture is extreme POV. `
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::::Your inaction is an action in and of itself. -
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` Another thing: without accurate information on Reserved names in NTFS, this article is of questionable value to anyone attempting to learn about NTFS to conduct forensics on an NTFS volume. i.e. if you tell them ``there's no way to create a file named aux``, when clearly there is a way, that is both inaccurate and misleading, ending up wasting a lot of time in an investigation. By your dubious ``not mainstream`` doctrine, this NTFS article would be a lot shorter. However, since it is already attempting to spell out a number of NTFS features that clearly are not of interest to a non-technical person (thereby putting into question your ``not mainstream`` doctrine), including what names are reserved in NTFS, that information should be accurate. The article, as it reads now, is not accurate. It's not nitpicking, it's about being correct. Really Not DrPizza`
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::If that's an opinion column by an actual journalist in a real-live published journal then it is worlds better. Why don't you Ann-haters use stuff from that and lose the blogs.
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I don't get what it means?????
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` * Out of curiosity, how do you feel about ``which they fear will result...``, ``which may accelerate global warming,`` etc.? I think someone was at least partially on the right track here by at least attributing this to environmentalists. `
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== Chodov == Thanks for creating the page. Both content and form are right.
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:Jesus...I have half a mind of splitting the awards section out to its own article now! D What do you think, since it seems to overwelm the article which was supposed to be on the festival proper. Not that the info is not useful, of coz! D
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. Please bear this in mind because there are others like me who take these things very seriously and will not let them go until they are redressed.
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Recent prooves of hetz being made and of the corruption of the admi == Question from Bishonen: an injunction for XAL? Oops. I didn't realize that the Bogdanov Affair affair had made it to RFAR; I just blocked XAL for the third time for unrepentant personal attacks. 72 hours. Should I unblock her so she can respond to this RFAR? I'd appreciate it if she could get an injunction against editing anywhere else, though (especially not on Talk:Bogdanov Affair), for what would have been the duration of the block. I'm not happy about all this vitriol she spreads, and, from past experience, I'd expect it to be worse now that I've gotten her worked up with a new block. Bishonen | talk PS, re Snowspinner's request above that XAL along with other users be banned from editing the article: she never has edited it. Never edited any article on wikipedia. I want her banned from the article's talkpage. For what it is worth, I support this motion. XAL has contributed nothing to the discussion, in stark contraindistinction to most of the other users like Igor or rbj or ybm, and often stirs things up. Maru (talk) Also from an outsider: XAL appears to only rant and to only rant on one topic (user:YBM, whose letters are sequentially one after hers, like IBM and HAL), and to contribute nothing but a negative an anti- point of view. Thus, she seems to have come to us from some outside web fight and longterm flamewar. Since coming here, she has demonstrated the grace, understanding, curiosity, and equanimity of a wounded hyena with rabies. Geogre What do you know about all that but what I told you specifically, like HAL, and did you read my settlement proposal at all? no did you read the answers being made to it by your idiotic friends rjb and maru? no You talk without knowing like you have always done. You are a gossip, nothing alse but a gossip who never bring any prooves to his accusations nor explain why he removed the totality of my talk page. You are adishonnest lier and being one of the accused person in my arbitration you have no place in it with empty commentars ans accusations against me as well as bishonnen has no rights to mix up in the talk page she was asked to stay away from. She is sick as you are of spendin gtoo much tiem far away from the real world ans only dreaming of retaliation against me as she ans you project on me your own frustration of being so meningless. And ignorants. I am the one who made the firsts conciensius of the talk page and in fact brought that word for the first time in it. It was done by me already in august this year, and you will know it if you could read. You don't know about fact as yu don't know about the scientific methods. You are rants. You speak on an arbitration where you are most unwelcome with the same empty sind as you pass your idiotic sonnet and your fat ass: happy of your ignorancy and passing the marshmallow. For what it is worth, I support this motion. XAL has contributed nothing to the discussion, in stark contraindistinction to most of the other users like Igor or rbj or ybm, and often stirs things up. Maru (talk) No comments, see the art gallery for concret proove that what he say reflect what he is and does, not my doing and being. This is again a projection. All the people who are now playing in the kindergarten called the arbitration, are all without exception people who weren't there when the reason for this arbitration was decided: in august and first week of september. So pack your dirty loundry and found a more constructiv way to wash your personal problems and clear out your relationships issues. This arbitration is about the reality of an organisation having build up this whole affair since nov 2003 up to today, and known as the postsituationists group, under the direction of Jean Pierre Voyer, directing the actions to be taken in close cooperation with YBM. The rest is rant and superficiality. it has been cleared out for a month and a week ago that the subject of the talk page was not wether the theory were validate or not but on the validity of this affair. Since I came with proove of the actions of the organisation, the talk page has became a complete rant and battle field with most participation from rjb who know absolutely nothing from it but who notheless play the all knowing man from day one. A sock puppet for ybm, saying his exact words, and with absolutely no sense of honnesty nor of selfcritc nor suspicious of the gossips he repeat, and absolutely unable to think by himself, like ybm, max,, romnulphe, gregor bishonen, phony EEguy, phony EE anonymous, and super phony doc yin and doc Max epiphysique...9 names and pseudo but only 4 resl person, ybm having here 5 pseudo, 4 socket puppet, plus some more like those he used in the forum La toile and in the Bogdanovs forum. All those people don't have anything to do with this talk page, they werent there before september and ybm only came there in the end of august because he had banished me from his forum for things I had sayed on the talk page!! and who disturbed him. But as he couldn't stay away from me forlong, he came here and tried already after 2 days to erased all I wrote. After 10 days of his vandalism Bishonen arrived after a meeting v´between her him and rjb and gregor who had never heard of this talk page before that time, and decided to believe ybm on his words and to block me without warrent. Thout all the revert are the exclusiv work of ybm, and it is proovable, but you know it and you don't care of it, all you care about is having your little ego save ho´me. Suck it all! ==
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don't you understand?!
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` {| class=``Talk-Notice`` |- | |Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Torre del Oro, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the ``Did you know?`` talk page. |}`
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::Yes, I think you should stop.. There is no damn debate, only the most ignorant human beings to ever grace the face of the earth think there's a debate.. this is ridiculous, you decide, right now.. is this an encyclopedia, or a propaganda rag?????
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ha ha how are you gonna stop me?
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` *I second that notion. What is the ``China Lake Way`` and why does it chagrin the pentagon? Much to my chagrin, A quick google search turned up nothing. `
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, 29 September 2005 (UTC) ::::::The articles about Judaism, Jewish history seem to contradict this. Those articles seem to imply that the origins of Judaism and Christianity are indeed the Levant. If they are incorrect in that respect, I suggest you correct them first and see if it sticks. 07:32
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, 29 September 2005 (UTC) ::::Glyconol was a dietary food supplement given to Hitler. | 11:12
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I really don't believe that You don't see this as a border issue. You have either been missinformed or don't understand the problem at all. We are discussing national borders because only the countries with free acces to open see can declare ecological protective zone or any other zone. So, it is a question of souverenity over part of the see and, therefore, we 'are discussing national borders. These are facts, not nationalism.
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, 29 September 2005 (UTC) :Food supplement is a general term. It's also a dietary supplement, and even that term is restricted for regulatory use based on its form. | 12:14
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` :Most other sources are still quoting him as just saying ``nonsense``. Unless/until there is anything firmer, I think both versions should be given. `
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Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks.
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:Fair enough - I made the edit, but on another reading you're right, it was vaguer than I remembered. Cheers for checking! Although now I'm even more confused about what actually happened up there...!
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` ::::I'll leave a note to El C that you have been blocked so that he knows to check here for replies to whatever conversation you two were having. | @ | - `
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== Medieval Tapestry == Should medieval tapestry count if it gets a page? It qualifies as a fad SO FAR, but all it needs is a few more sites.
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I would like to known about Pointer in JAVA language.
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. ::::That would do, why don't you go to every store that every chain has and figure the national average price on everything, then ignore the wages that their employees make (to be spent at the other business in town, maybe even funding your job), and draw up an addition to the article determining who benefits from shopping where. Let's say Company X has a store, with 500 jobs, paying $10 an hour, then Company W comes in, adds 500 jobs, paying $6 an hour, drives Company X under, now the wages that Company W pays are the ones being spent in the area, guess everyone benefits from a 40% drop in the spending from 500 people's incomes.
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. (edited again; encoding issues)
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== Needs fleshing out by current students == Needs to be more stuff about campus life, politics, history etc. in line with other university pages.
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` == District attorney == Thanks for putting the DPP link in the District attorney article. I don't go around thanking people for every good edit, but this one was particularly useful, cheers. While I'm here, I don't quite understand your ``6 generations`` comment on your userpage. I assume you have a British accent, so peole ask you how long you have been in Australia, how are you claiming this 6 generations? `
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== Relevent policies == Please take a look at the following policies: *Wikipedia:Civility * Wikipedia:No personal attacks * Wikipedia:Neutral point of view Thankyou. |
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` :: ``First, I honestly don't care if your different or not.`` Now that is a lie: ``I have a hard time not being that you are really not DrPizza since your argument starts with another thing as if you were DrPizza. (sic)`` You only say you don't care now since it's been revealed you were wrong. It's another instance where you shift the argument when you've been proven wrong and engage in a smear campaign. And what do you mean by, ``behind your back``? That would mean that he would've said ``idiot`` somewhere he knows you're not going to look (like, say, the History tab, which you don't seem to know about). Presumably, someone who bothers to edit the NTFS page would clearly read its associated Talk page. So, once again, you've failed to provide the evidence, and again, shift blame and bring up wholly irrelevant issues to cover your tracks. It reminds me of Michael Brown being questioned by Congress. You've failed to demonstrate you had the correct facts. You've failed to justify your ideology that wikipedia should only be limited to what you deem ``mainstream``. And you've failed demonstrate any evidence for your ad hominem attacks, instead, insulting our intelligence by pointing out blaringly obvious facts and insinuating that we are stupid (unlike DrPizza, your language leaves no room for such doubt, and your profile clearly indicates you have no issues with the North American dialect of the English languageOr are you going to backtrack away from your earlier broken argument about language and intention now?), and casting blame in all directions, hoping it sticks somewhere. These are signs of gross immaturity and a complete failure to be able to put forth a rational, logical argument. These are your faults, not ours. Not DrPizza`
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` :Funny, the last time our store got bonus checks was like 1996, and at that, it was only a couple hundred dollar bonus, for busting your butt working there the whole year, Wal-Mart's requirements in order to get a bonus, the lowest possible, are almost impossible to meet, sales for the store have to be up 2% for each $200 you get, thanks to their ``Open a new store every 10 miles`` strategy, our store has been down at least 10% from last year, so guess what, no bonus in 2006 either, YAY!!!! `
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Regarding this edit to the John G. Roberts, Jr. article: Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.
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` I can't believe it! This story of how they got their doctor degree has been discussed before, and agreed upon, a long time ago. That was before EE guy time but anyway, the same on different forums, and not earlier than this august month. And to clear out all doubts, thought it is a far out dream, and as Igor has already pointd it out a few articles above, which mean only a few hours before you came with your extract, mention honorable is a very honorable mention who is seldom given to a thesis and mean that the work is considered as being very good. Do you get it now? Or shall we absolutely repeat this, let say, 1000 times before it get in to the correct part of your brain system? This being already a repetition. But if you were less eager to get all your informations on that matter at the same source:YBM own edits and promotion web side, it will help a lot. I have already in august presented the prooves that the article you use above as a proof is nothing but a homemade text created by ybm who has absolutely no knowledge of the doctorat point system or who did it on purpose. Both well cooresponding to ybms' untrustworthy selvmade image. Yourself could get some indormations about this fact, instead of echooing what you read like ``I knew it too and agreed`` when in fact all of those data are rants without contact to reality. Shall I sign zorro or shall I put your own name? afterall what the hell shall I have my own signature when anyway it is freely accused for being another one at anytime and for anything? Get your vocabulary straight, your source of information straight, and give me a well deserved excuse for all the numerous timessssss where you have insulted me. I make progress happen, you sylte on it like a parasite and want a medailj for it? Get real, you are at best paparazy, at worse a middle levelheaded ingeneeer trying his joker on wiki. `
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== Concerning Mention Honorable adn the real meaning of it ==
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- No its not and rarely given refer to the fact that only a few doctors can present any mention at all on their paper and not that it is a low or a high one! You pass the test and maybe, you also get a mention, which is a reward on itself. So check your info and the management of it as well. My data are very well accurate and you can found proofs of it all in fr.physic as early as june 2004, where several Ph.D and other universitarians came with their witness about this fact and even a professor, so drink it with an Ibuprofen and get your argumentation together. You are building on an assumption, and assumptions have the inherent flaw to fall down and track their authors with them. You are down now. What about the excuses? would you be as incredibly courageous to bring your apologize to everyones knowledge, when you were so bold at dismissing the facts and the necessary research of sources without which research is nothing but wild guess? Oh saving your dull day! I knew since long that without my breaking points this page is doom to die. Sorry to can't save you honor as well, if you had any to begin with, mr zorro. I baptized you, and ee anonymous and ybm and max, incredible don't you think, so zorro, no, Napoleon Bonaparte or jeanne d'Arc, to the limit, but remmeber that I am above you dull standards, and noone hasstill been able to proove me wrong. What a defeat. Oh waterloo! the alone thing you can do is block me out. Ha HA HA! you can't tolarate truth, and covering your ears ain't going to change the outcome and it wont even be on wiki, believe me.. HA HA HA! -
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` : That's the name of the party. .pl is Poland's TLD, ``demokraci`` is Polish for ``The Democrats``. The party is officially called Partia Demokratyczna ``demokraci.pl`` because of some legal issues (a group of extreme far-right politicians hijacked the name Partia Demokratyczna just days before the real Democrats managed to register their party in the court). `
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== afrocentrism == hey there, could you please explain your edits to afrocentrism? once will be enough. for now its hard to see if you're just pushing someones buttons or really think the reversions are correct (or both). thanks a lot.
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You will have to try harder little boy, real harder, using memory, rereading of previous post here, and aligning data. Don't miss your next appointment, you know what I do after the second time ((-: Hannibal Lecter
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Please note that there is a misspelled entry Draptomania in the US Slavery section which I have removed and simply redirected to this more complete and correct one (the old one offered no information this one did not). Sept 30, 2005
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, whilst attempting to suck on my micropenis
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== Gay == The existence of CDVF is further proof that is a sad twat. He is also very ugly, and has a willy for a face.
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And what about you? the warning was specifically created to your intention. Don't you think? Try to think, you might get used to it, extinguisher.
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==Computer code== Shouldn't this computer code be moved to a later part of the article or into a separate article? It should not be considered a prominent part of this topic.
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==Faith in the Future== Excuse me, but why are you trying to keep me from creating a page about the show Faith in the Future?
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` == HI! == Yess its me Pralph, I was gonna authros some stuff last night after I got unbolked but I fel alseep i was kin of buzzed abut i'm all ressted now thank you good monring!!! == The Red Bedroom == Lucky 6.9, I noticed that you've speedied this (and one other) album while at the same time placing a brief comment on the user page. Do you think that this was the best course of action? I'd ask you to compare the message I left with yours, and also ask that you restore these stubs. We want to encourage people to write good stubs, don't we? Deleting it outright doesn't do that. :This came out bitchier than I intended, sorry. With the ``no artist`` stubs (which drive me crazy) I usually find that the person who created them edits the artist's page just before or after, and often add the link in myself. Thanks for restoring those, == Please == Referring to the RfA nomination. == THANK YOU SO MUCH == For nominating me on RfA. Have this beautiful jewel for my thank you. Take care, :BTW, something went wrong. Wikipedia:Requests_for_admminship/V._Molotov needs to be moved to fix the typo, but it can't be moved because there's an article in the way. Looks like someone needs to delete Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/V._Molotov and then do the move. == Your message == Hi, you left this message on my talk page: Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. - Lucky 6.9 It's difficult to tell whether you are being sarcastic or are mistaken. What experiment? I cannot find any edits or original articles of mine that you have reverted. Regards, It's a shame you felt it necessary to revert as ``experimentation`` what was obviously an article (albeit a stub). As you will see from my history, I am new to Wikipedia but have enjoyed creating and editing a number of articles about some fairly hefty topics. It occurred to me that someone who enjoys wikipedia (such as myself) ought to be referred to as a wikipedophile. A google search reveals no fewer than 132 instances of the word on the net. If other neologisms such as ``leet`` are to have articles, why not this one? Why not at least leave the article there for others to discuss rather than annihilating it unilaterally? So, you deleted my article because you decided not enough people would be interested in it? That's as good an argument for keeping the article: nobody interested, nobody sees it; someone interested, someone finds it. No harm done. QED. Ah, but in that case, no self-aggrandising administrator satisfaction, and no opportunity to post supercilious mesages about the sandbox. It is easier to destroy than to create. Enjoy. OK, I will leave the subject - it is hardly a fair argument when one of us has the power to silence the other on a whim - but as an admin you will perhaps wish to know that you have discouraged me from contributing further to Wikipedia. My brief edit history will show me a valuable contributor, and I had been inspired by the ``be bold in editing`` tenet of Wikipedia. Alas, this spirit is evidently mired in the usual unaccountable, pseudopolitical hierarchies, fiefdoms and cliques that invariably beleaguer such online efforts. Adieu. The neologism is far from the point. I am reluctant to contribute further to an enterprise that gives an impression of equity yet hangs an arbitrary - no, worse: willfully destructive - sword of Damocles over its users' contributions, apparently without opportunity for redress. I will not submit to having my efforts thus discarded. == Answers.com mirrors Wikipedia == ...so the David Duke article isn't a copyvio - they are copying us. — == Copyvios == Hi there. Since you're something of a regular poster at WP:CP, can I just ask you to use the shiny new template when adding a new listing? We now have :{{subst:article-cv|ArticleName}} which gives the links that reduce the agony of clearing out CP. Carry on using when blanking the offending article, of course. Thanks. - ===Sam Cowart Stub=== Why did you delete my Sam Cowart stub? == Hello == Hi Lucky 6.9, Im SWD316. I would just like to inform you of the anon IP address, that you temporarily blocked on September 15, left some rather rude commentary towards you on his talk page. I thought I would let you know. `
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stop editing this, you dumbass. why do you have to be such a bitch? the ghosts of bill maas' past will haunt you forever!!! MWAHAHHAHAA
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The idea that Perls favoured Dianetics in any way is absurd - considering his work as a whole. If at all it cannot have been more than a thoughtless side-remark or something of that kind, - that didn't develop into an influence on his work. There's no proof that I would know of. Friedhelm, Germany, 1. Oct. 2005
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=== Your Fault === FireStar- I asked you nicely not to post the names of my friends, but when we went there this morning, there they were again. As usual, I have done everything you asked and all I get in return is treachery. Hasn't been a week since we had this war ended. You started it back up again by unprotecting the page and letting the Bulshido guys harass my friends. I don't want to come here and argue with you. I have already proven a hundred times that the only purpose this entry serves is harassment and asked you to take it down. You insist on hounding me when I have done nothing to warrant it. And, when I complain you tell me I've got an attitude. This is a pretty sick game, don't you think? Not really worthy of true martial artists. I ask again, as politely and nicely and respectfully as I can for you to protect this page or take it down. Ashida Kim
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Then according to the first case you have listed St. Johns' would be a colony. Even thought it didnt have permanent settlers in 1583, seasonal cod fishermen had frequented Newfoundland since 1497. Gilbert's political claim to Newfoundland was exerted by the Fishing Admirals of England's West Country which had excluded all other nations from the east coast of Newfoundland by 1620.
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==Ban this Jerk== Someone needs to ban this jerk for deleting articles before we can even get them off the ground.
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`Welcome! (We can't say that loud/big enough!) Here are a few links you might find helpful: *Be Bold! *Don't let grumpy users scare you off. *Meet other new users *Learn from others *Play nice with others *Contribute, Contribute, Contribute! *Tell us about you You can sign your name on talk pages and votes by typing ~~~~; our software automatically converts it to your username and the date. If you have any questions or problems, no matter what they are, leave me a message on . We're so glad you're here! E `
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== Kid Eternity edits the article, but will he get banned? == The professional racist and anti-union strike-opposer 'Kid Eternity' edits the article. If Captain Mainwaring and his trusty chimp Frigid Magnate aren't liars and hypocrites, they would ban that racist from their little website. Will they? They will and me arse...
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Up yours, you authoritarian little Hitlers.
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` == RoyBoy RfA == Thank you for the extreme support. ``D - `
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==Supervisor?== I'd like the username of your supervisor or commanding officer.
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And is soon to be banned from Originaltrilogy.com
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==An external view== I looked at this article and I was shocked and stunned. Just a few weeks ago it looked like this, lots of useful information, some of it unencyclopedic in presentation and way too many photographs with questionable licenses. Now on 2 October it was a travesty, vandalized beyond belief by people who apparently thought they were making it better. But nearly all information useful to gay people in Singapore had been removed. I have reverted it to this version: * Intosi m (Fixed currency conversion to US$ (was a factor 10 too low)) In the course of doing so, I have taken the liberty of removing all photographs except the one that had survived to October 2, the parts about bars, saunas etc (writing about which, especially on cruising venues, is an intriguing challenge!).
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134.83.150]] 21:25, 1 October
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:: I think the large amount of anecdotal evidence of the efficacy of CS deserves mention.
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` == This article is Fascist == I know this may seem a bit of a radical statement at first, but listen to me before you counter-attack. In my opinion, the decision by LucaArts to make the canon Revan a white(presumeably, by the picture posted earlier in this discussion page) male is at it's very core an extremely sexist and fascist. Not only does it hint at racial superiority, but also extreme misogyny in that all but officialy stating males are the superior force sensatives. I must express my extreme disgust at this article for going along the Fascist ``canon`` Revan and my utter contempt for LucasArts and the Chauvinist pigs behind this decision. Good day`
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Policies and guidelines#Key policies|key policy
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Yeah, these definitly need to be merged
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== Lost Levels Screenshots == Can somebody include screenshots (or a screenshot gallery) for the lost levels of Super Mario Bros. 3 on the article for the Super Mario Bros. 3 video game?
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` == New Zealand political lists == By ``political lists``, I assume you're talking about things like List of members of the Australian Senate and 46th New Zealand Parliament. To start with, there's a bit of trouble in that there are many different styles applied to the New Zealand lists, as I've changed my mind a lot over time. (Mostly attepting to make things more like what I see other people doing, although not always successfully.) The newest lists are ones like 19th New Zealand Parliament and 48th New Zealand Parliament, and eventually, I hope to have most other New Zealand lists looking much the same. What, in particular, do you suggest should be done? I'd quite like to keep the little coloured boxes, for example — they're already in extensive use on pages relating to the recent New Zealand election, and it seems that many British election results are also using them. If you're talking about writing ``Helen Clark`` instead of ``Clark, Helen``, I have no objections. Anything in particular? It would be nice to get some standardisation, although I suppose there will still be disjunction between Australia/NZ and the rest of the world. `
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:: I have now made the changes in the article mentioned earlier. In addition I added the names Wendell Willkie and Thomas Dewey into the article.
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== Greetings == Hello! You make an interesting point regarding inherent bias...it would be great if you registered an account - although you seem quite knowledgeable about this place, hence why I wondered if you were editing anon. on purpose. If you are interested in a proper study of admins politial leanings, leave a message on my talk page, and we will discuss this further. It should be an interesting and informative exercise, regardless of outcome.
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Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. ,
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== FUCK YOU ALL! == GO TO HELL!
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I'LL KILL YOU ALL!!!!
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` == Section on Seclusion is confusing == The second sentence starts: ``This event was triggered by the publicity generated from an interview...`` What ``event`` is being referred to? The book becoming famous? The paragraph is not clear.`
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I note on Month that you have run afoul of , another calendar expert. All
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their association with both Neo-Nazism and the Artgemeinschaft is well documented and uncontroversial. As for the contact information, WP:CITE; you cannot use Wikipedia as a replacement for your homepage (which seems to be offline, I wonder why?) anybody could insert an address and phone number here, so we need some sort of authority.
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` Otherwise we should leave it at 175. See ``185 mph`` above. `
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Jack Breen is a 15 year old boy who lives in the state of NSW, Australia. He is currently in year 9 at high school, and he is a qualified basketball referee and also enjoys playing basketball.
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== Thanks == Thank's for the info, and yes I agree. Talk to you later...
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Show me this. Please. This is good to know. Where in history is it? Thanks! Ps And the fact they tried to erase it is even more damning.
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Well, I think it's sad that a culture has been created here that's so hostile to people merely wanting to bring balance that they feel forcedinto a 'poster-protection program' but I respect your position. Please stay and continue your great work. I'm not afraid of these POV warriors. Their fear of me however has turned them into paranoics seeing 'Big Daddy' in anything and everything they encounter that's fair at Wikipedia. In the meantime, I'm gonna go back in later and clean up any mess that's been left, unless you beat me to it. Take care
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==From the Other Big Daddy )==
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Ps Paul Klenk is right. You will not find a fairer, more even handed editor here. He cares passionately about his excellent work at Wikipedia. I observed with my very own eyes how, though he literally bent over backwards for these people, they just spit on him like he was refuse. Something's got to be done about this...
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` et tu JamesMLane?? I was always told you were the persuasive one because of your cool calm reasoned responses and up until now I had no reason to doubt this and have always accorded you the respect of analyzing your arguments and either agreeing or disagreeing. But you both shock and surprise me with a personal attack in your very fist sentence. To suggest that I'm some knee-jerk reactionary spoling for a fight with the left wing cabal is to caricature me in a grossly distorted way. I 'm here to remove POV. Period. Now, it is acknowledged by you and others that there are currently a preponderance of liberals in here doing the editing, although no one until you would be willing to admit that there was a left-wing cabal and a sinister one at that! (Remember, you can't say you were 'just joking' because, as we've learned from the liberal editors of the Ann Coulter piece, unless you SPECIFICALLY say 'I was joking' when you make your statment, it means you're as serious as AIDS- so I thank you for that illuminating revelation. It is duly noted.) Anyway, it stands to reason that most of the POV I will encounter is going to be coming from the left. Do you dispute that or do you think this Karl Rove article is filled with right wing hyperbole? As for your arguement - ``we have to interrupt his biography to go off on a side excursion, an article-within-an-article that discusses the subject he addressed...`` I can only say McCain...Black Baby Rumor...see above. lol! I find it hard to believe you can make that arguement with a straight stroke. It is PRECISELY that tit for tat meandering that is the HALLMARK of Ann Coulter and Karl Rove articles. I wish you'd use your persuasive powers to address the McCain push poll incident and Ann Coulters alleged love for terrorists instead of cherry-picking it in a realm where Rove might actually be vindicated. So, I reject your argumentation for now. In fact, I've understood that Move-On's petition may have been specifically what Rove was referring to. Therefore to omit this information would be a deliberate attempt to leave that quote hanging out there and thus tantamount to POV by default. And I think one 911 family group comments deserves another. Or, if you like, we can just use the conservative 911 family group's statements. Since we don't want to make this article 'book-length' do we? Here's my bottom line: What's good for the goose is good for the gander. And what I've seen here since day one is one form of argumentation used to defend an article if it's good for the goose (democrat/liberal) and that EXACT SAME ARGUMENTATION trashed if it looks good for the gander (republican/conservative.) I hope you don't think I'm the only one who sees this. (Oh btw, when I make post these trenchant observations, I'm used to getting rebuked for 'getting away from content' or 'talking politics.' Funny, how your comments of the exact same nature never get that same rebuke. Must be 'cabal club' privileges, huh? ) Take care Big Daddy. Ps I do like your style though. I appreciate the sober analysis that generally exudes from your posts. Even if I don't agree, I respect the approac you have `
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== Well, I don't know about that. == Here's what Katefan once wrote me - Be careful... ...you are coming perilously close to being blocked. Please read my comments at Talk:Karl Rove. Best · Katefan0(scribble) And I might add I was still pretty much a newbie at this point and the incident had to do with ryan ERASING my commentary in an ARTICLE talk page!! Being new, I thought, if she can do that to me, I'll do that to her so it went back and forth until Kate stepped in within minutes I might add... with the above threat. I wonder if Kate can point out a similar threat to block made to Ryan or anybody else who's vandalized me in that manner?
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HEY EVERYONE IS THIS HOW YOU LEAVE MESSAGES?!
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Yea, the little lines were nice ) Thanks again for this. One question, do you type out User: E brown, Hurricane enthusiast, Squawk Box every time you leave a message, or do you have a special command? Just wondering....
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* I think I have enough evidence now, on my user talk page, that this is a case of bad-faith edits accompanied by sock puppetry, otherwise known as astroturfing. Thanks for being patient.
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` ==TIG weld== Hello Nathaniel: Sure thing about signing off the license, however I'm not so sure how exactly it is supposed to be indicated. I added written releases upon other image work.... yet noticed that it still came up short in the opinion of others. Will this work?: ``This image is offered under [Cc-by-sa-2.5] by the creator of both the photograph, and its subject material. TTLightningRod``. Should it say something else, or more? You'll let me know. As to my activities around here.... ya, I've been away a while for two good reasons; One, I got too wrapped up in that frustrating wikipathology. Second, I'm in the middle of a highly involved shop renewal here. Lots to be done before winter, and of the utmost importance to me. We'll have much to discuss, about vocational articles and craftsmanship, once the new equipment is up and running (Dec.). You'll have to make an effort to visit down here, it's only a two hour drive from Penn U. Take care, `
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. ==Comments for my buddy Theodore Smith== I'll take this moment to make a comment to Ted Smith. I have been emailing with Persuica, aka Persa Zula. She tells an interesting story. Now, let me get this straight... ok I won't go into it here. But I'll tell you what, I'll head on over to your site and work it on out over there. Then I'll come back here adn fix your errors, and post it here. You were very bad Ted Smith, with Persa Zula, some would say you broke the law, and in fact, the law does say you did. Which is why you have a restraining order from the police against contacting Persa or her family. Ted when you have such a large skeleton in your closet, maybe you need to pipe down on the morality tip. Anyhow, Ted is a real person, not a editing name on here, so I am within my rights with posting this. I won't reveal his hope seeking name to catch a mule that's been x'ed with on here. But hey if you figure it out all by yourself, then thats wonderful. Truly wonderful
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` :In response to your comment on my ``HOWS MY DRIVING`` RfC page, I just wanted to make note that the votes in the proposed arbitration decision count: it is how they come to their final decision. Of course, if you look at the ``editing restrictions``, you'll see that the Editing restrictions against you and Jayjg did not pass; only the editing restrictions with respect to you passed. Thanks. , `
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` The article states that ``Montenegrin and Serb identities are not exclusive``, but this is not true. They are exlusive acording to the constitution of Montenegro, the constitutional charter of Serbia and Montenegro, and half a dozen separate censuses since the mid 20th century - all of which allow only one national identity to be declared. These are the raw and unbiased facts (not speculation). On the other hand, it is true that a number of Serbs and Montenegrins may believe that they have both identities - but there is no modern census nor constitutional basis that can support a statement such as ``Montenegrin and Serb identities are not exclusive``. Many Montenegrins do not feel to be Serb, and never pronounce themselves as such. You can not force national groups to ``be Serb`` if they do not feel so and never declare as such. ``However the number of Montenegrins does seem to be in steep decline since the introduction of the category by the Communists on the 1948 census`` seems to imply that the Communist regime declared the nationality of citizens in polls. This is not true, as citizens declared their nationaility in polls, individually. In fact, the Communists - for the first time allowed citizens to declare their nationality as Montenegrin - by introducing the category, which is more important. If it stands like the previous user wants it to stand, then we must add a sentence stipulating that the ``Serbian ruling dynasties in the pre World War II Yugoslavia banned Montenegrin citizens from declaring their nationality as 'Montenegrin'`` This is as true as the Communist quirp, as the Montenegrin option was obviously not allowed before World War II. The article states that MOC was not re-established in 1993, which is a fallacy. The MOC has been legally registered in Montenegro in line with the valid legal system of the state of Montenegro and in line with the laws in Montenegro - which is clearly apparent from the MOC page on Wikipedia. The MOC Church is called the Montenegrin Orthodox Church in its formal registration in Montenegro, so there is no space for speculation here. The Church was re-established after a separate existence until 1920. The article does not claim that MOC is a major branch of Eastern Orthodoxy outside Montenegro. The statement ``over 74% of Montenegrins are Eastern Orthodox Christians, most of whom belong to the Serb Orthodox Church`` is anyway a fallacy, as there is no accurate census that can prove this. One may say truthfully say that ``most Montenegrins are Eastern Orthodox Christians, most of whom belong to the Serb Orthodox Church``, but a large number of Montenegrins are atheists, agnostics, or otherwise, myself included. Being a Montenegrin does not mean that you are part of the 74% of Eastern Orthodox Christians. Sorry, this is the 21st century. You can not just delete the fact that MOC followers claim that ``all of the existing churches in Montenegro were once part of an autonomous Montenegrin Orthodox Church that was abolished following the union with Serbia in 1918.`` This is the explanation why shrines are not being built en masse in Montenegro by the MOC, as it claims to inherit the churches currently in the hands of SOC. If we put only one viewpoint in ``its following is small to the point of non-existence and it has not been recognised by any other Orthodox Church`` it is not balanced. Also, the statement ``its following is small to the point of non-existence`` needs to be based on fact not fancy. Do you have an official census of followers, or is this based on the fact that you are a believer of the SOC? The sentence ``The validity of the referendum was not confirmed by international observers as the allegedly free and democratic vote, in fact took place during wartime in the former Yugoslavia.`` is true. So I leave it. Of course, I agree to change ``international`` into ``OSCE, EU and US`` - as the referendum may have had international monitoring from Cuba, Iraq, North Korea, Byelorussia, and Russia. - user .`
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` The previous comment of the article states that MOC was not re-established in 1993, which is a fallacy. The MOC has been legally registered in Montenegro in line with the valid legal system of the state of Montenegro and in line with the laws in Montenegro - which is clearly apparent from the MOC page on Wikipedia. The MOC Church is called the Montenegrin Orthodox Church in its formal registration in Montenegro, so there is no space for speculation here. The Church was re-established after a separate existence until 1920 and a ban by the Serbian (then Yugoslav) autocratic King Aleksandar. The article does not claim that MOC is a major branch of Eastern Orthodoxy outside Montenegro. The statement ``over 74% of Montenegrins are Eastern Orthodox Christians, most of whom belong to the Serb Orthodox Church`` is anyway a fallacy, as there is no accurate census that can prove this. One may say truthfully say that ``most Montenegrins are Eastern Orthodox Christians, most of whom belong to the Serb Orthodox Church``, but a large number of Montenegrins are atheists, agnostics, or otherwise, myself included. Being a Montenegrin does not mean that you are part of the 74% of Eastern Orthodox Christians. Sorry, this is the 21st century. You can not just delete the fact that MOC followers claim that ``all of the existing churches in Montenegro were once part of an autonomous Montenegrin Orthodox Church that was abolished following the union with Serbia in 1918.`` This is the explanation why shrines are not being built en masse in Montenegro by the MOC, as it claims to inherit the churches currently in the hands of SOC. If we put only one viewpoint in ``its following is small to the point of non-existence and it has not been recognised by any other Orthodox Church`` it is not balanced. Also, the statement ``its following is small to the point of non-existence`` needs to be based on fact not fancy. Do you have an official census of followers or is this your speculation? - user . `
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`, 4 October 2005 (UTC) Fix it, and I'll vote ``keep.`` I've always changed votes if people repair the articles, and so would the other ``deletionists.`` Don't fix it, and you should vote ``delete.`` If it, in its present form, violates the deletion policy, then the only proper vote is ``delete.`` If it is advertising now, you should vote delete until the advertising is gone. Having faith that someone, somewhere, some time will fix it is a wonderful vision, but you leave irrelevancies and advertising and trash on the site while you wait for that hypothetical person. The old ``inclusionists`` used to actually fix the articles while they were on VfD. I have nothing but respect for them. As for people who won't do any work but vote to ``keep`` anyway...not so much. The more repair work I see, the greater my respect. The more ``I don't care! I vote keep because it's on my subject!`` I see, the more I call it disruption. The more ``Come on, everyone! Let's all show up and vote 'keep' because it's on a subject we like`` I see, the more I consider it vandalism and GNAA-style trolling. That should explain my reaction well enough. (In the case of ``Lincoln elementary school is in summitt New jersey,`` there needs to be something about that particular school to make it unique, other than its address and employees. Otherwise, the corner Texaco station should get an entry.) 20:08`
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`:No, the line is ``We've lost our bridge deflector shield!`` Nothing indicates that the loss of the dome was the cause of this. It is far more likely that the shields going down enabled the A-wings to destroy the dome, not the other way around. `
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`, 4 October 2005 (UTC) :::There is no source for the claim that the ratings are inflated, critics have acclaimed it as well. WP:NOT, this is not a place for your original ``resource`` UtherSRG. 20:35`
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` It would appear to me that most of the administrators I have been dealing with are self righteous and so impressed by the fact that they are ``Almighty Administrators`` that they have entirely no sense of humor whatsoever. You talk really tuff as though you are really going show me a thing or two. I think you just enjoy the feeling of power that you have over my life. With one click of the keyboard you can destroy my article for good. I guess you think I'm supposed to be devastated or something. Suppose I am banned from Wikipedia once more for speaking freely? It's really not going change the Earth's rotation rate or anything. I guess if you don't have a life and are condemned to sitting around and watching ``encyclopedia`` entries all day without getting paid for it then you might turn out to be humorless and irritable. How can I be accused of vandalizing a page that I created? I will admit to vandalizing Lucky 6.9's page, but I think it's really idiotic to say that a person vandalized a page that they created. I've seen some really stupid pages on Wikipedia that were written by ``Administrators``. I often wonder why these articles were allowed to remain. The article I created is about a real person.`
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What exactly have I done that constitutes a personal attack? I can see my editing of your user page as a personal attack. That's it though. Anything else I have said has been about administrators in general and cannot be a personal attack. I will agree to the things you say here but I also retain the opinion about the administrators here that I have previously stated.
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