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` I was trying a lot of stuff, and I was trying to copy you, but it wasn't working. Now it is. I'm so happy now. Thanks! `
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mate you are clearly a wanker. It's just interesting historically correct article that you (ie. uninteresting internet geeks) have nothing better to do then get involved with. Whats the point of this site if people can't write informative articles if nonces like yourself keep getting involved?
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you guys are idiots. I clearly don't care about editing articles on wikipedia apart from this, so ban me. I just don't understand why you are to delete this one, so fucking lame.
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: If it's balance you seek, a better choice would be that animation from your web page of the wino throwing up on people. It's pretty much the mirror of any image created by a PRT company.
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Ok, i take your point. I just don't see why you guys have to be so gay about a page like this?! You aren't the brittania encyclopedia, mostly from what i can see you're a bunch of mugs with nothing better to do then write silly articles about nothing in particular. On the other hand this article is, in my opinion, an interesting and hopefully expanding drinking organisation. We are using wikipedia to spread the word about our idea and a bunch of loser gimps are trying to stop purely because they have nothing better to do.
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I never meant any personal attack. I just think it's pretty lame on your part to try and delete this article for no good reason. It just seems you guys have nothing better to do.
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` ==Image copyright problem with Image:Phill Lewis.jpg== Thanks for uploading Image:Phill Lewis.jpg. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy). The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}. Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, or ask them at the Image legality questions page. Thank you. / `
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` ==Multiple Logos== Honestly, why do we need three logos? The phoenix emblem is the logo that is primarily associated with the band. The skulls logo is simply for the most recent album why have it on the 30STM page instead of the one for the album? The page simply does not look good at all. It does not show the progression of the band's logos. The first is not even the ``original`` logo... it's simply another promotional image for the most recent album. Yes, sports teams have multiple logos. This is not a sports team though, now is it? Do you see the Linkin Park page with all of Linkin Park's numerous logos? No, it simply has pictures of the albums and bands. It is a far lengthier article as well. Look at similar articles of similar length: Adema, Slipknot, 311 (band), Alkaline Trio, Audioslave, Velvet Revolver, Blink-182, Cold (band), Disturbed, Evanescence, etc. None have as many pictures, and they're all longer.`
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The content of this article was copied from the Answers.com web site.
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PLEASE STOP VANDALISING MY PAGE
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==halt== i have moved the page to denvilles halt as it is not a permanant terminus and had only 1 platform. it shouldn't get deleted as it is a important peice of knoledge.
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` == Gliese 3021 == Should this be Gliese 3021 or GJ 3021? I'm quite unfamiliar with naming conventions, I'll admit, and I usually rely on Sol Station to help me out with stuff like this. Here it lists the star as GJ 3021m with HD 1237 and CD-80 9 as alternatives. Can anything in the Gliese catalogue be listed as ``Gliese ####``? `
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:::I suggest FORENSIC is possibly accurate - definition 3 on this: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=forensic
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` :::I could not understand exactly what you mean. can you please clarify it more? + `
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==AFD== I'm cleaning up your AFD nomination for World Communist Movement. Instructions on how to do it can be found at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/#How_to_list_pages_for_deletion. If you're still having trouble, feel free to , and I'll see if I can help get you straightened out. -
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== Image:505logo.PNG tagging == I've changed the tagging on Image:505logo.PNG to because while you made it, it is a direct copy of the 505 logo and is the same shape, size, and arrangement as http://www.int505.org/505_logo.gif. As such, it is protecteder under copyright and the tag applies. Do you sail 505s?
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Why do u love removing stuff? MoLi admin
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== dude == whats your problem dude i was being serious on the last one sorry dick head eat my shit
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` :::Although I have to say you're completely wrong Xebat (Iranian is not an ``uncommon word``), do you agree with the solution? ::How you got this info Khoikhoi?! Iranians honestly and honestly is not a common word. + `
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:::::Here is a leaflet of the London School of Economics affiliated cult/NRM offfice Inform (founded by Eileen Barker) that also links to the document called the Findings and states its importance. (pdf file) By the way, the leaflet contains quite a lot of minor inaccuracies, but no major ones.
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== man its all about captain morgans spiced rum. == shut the fuck up barry i hate you.-
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you see that kid talking to me i hate him he never leaves me alone. i wish he would die.=
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` :I put the information in there myself, because I read it in the article, and your edit made the next sentence meaningless. I`m restoring it. `
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I am sorry that you feel this way, I am not trying to be a vandal. I am just interested in trying to make it known that Muslims are not good people. I am sorry that you feel this way, but i am allowed to freely express my opinions on my user page. Thank you, that is all.
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It is a very good source I read it. Also
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` :::::You have stated your case on the talk page. It was not, by the majority of the editors of this page, considered to be much more than an unconvincing vindication of trolling. Therefore, the page was reverted, and will be reverted ad infinitum until someone comes up with new information or better elucidation of the already discussed themes. For the time being-you're just one among many Serbian trolls. Pity only 6-10 Serbian users are definitely not Greater Serbian propagandist sickos, but, as Ned Kelly had said, ``sich is life``. `
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go to hell you gestapo!
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== Gestapo Alert! == Naconkantari (Dirty Jap) and ESkog (Dirty Muslim) are trying to censor my personal beliefs and my factual additons to pages. They are accusing me of vandalism which is unjust. I cannot stnad this intolerance any longer. Thank you Howard for your time and advice. Long live the Sino-Christian Friendship.
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== uhm == you wont like this
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==Makes me want to vomit== The way they're hand holding SPUI especially after the way they treated me, yourself and Gateman. Especially how I was permbanned even though truth and evidence were on my side. I'm starting to wonder if this project is anything but a who knows who club. I could get 50,000 edits pretty quick too making the type of crap redirect edits he does.
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This is now Scaife's complaint, more than mine; I am reasonably satisfied with the weight now given to Weart/Ray/Rummel. It may need some adjustment, but it can wait for the article trim.
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'' :First, thanks Jaskaramdeep for the dedication to the Mohali article. Second, thanks for the question; I love such questions anyway, but this is an especially interesting one. I'll ook into it and chime in at Talk:Mohali. -
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hunk of rock orbiting the Sun
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Sophia, your comments are quite inaccurate. Bakewell Tart did leave a message on Rob's page, but only because Rob is using the conventions about talk pages and user pages to make personal attacks on other editors. He has been asked to remove these politely but just deletes the requests. So, to refer to this as 'sarcasm' is a bit misleading. Don't you think that it was quite reasonable to refute an inaccurate statement, placed with the sole intention of causing offence?
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:::Yeah, Partch is great, but he's not always the most reliable source. I'll try to find a different one. —
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Hannah Montana May you please mark where you found this image at. We would really appriciate it.
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==Fair Use Image== Aplogies to the Total War franchise (even though, having had over a £100 from me, they owe me an image or two). I wasn't aware of the rules until you gave me a heads up. I was tempted to use one of the images from Wikimedia to replace it, but, to be honest, I'm not that fond of user pages that are more about the user than how they will work within Wikipedia. I'd already removed most of the bio/fan material already. So, no worries.
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Doh! There I go again. I apologise. My only excuse is that I'm a bit miffed about the checkuser request. I'm glad that this will be a resolution to the ongoing saga, but it's still annoying that this has been caused by an editor who has himself commented that the process is unreliable and refuses to acknowledge the results. What will it prove to him - since he will not agree with it anyway? (UTC
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I think KFCazure is a 13 your old, probably because he is calling me somone a hell of a lot higher than him in the GTA Comminity that I am a 13 year old...
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Response :# So put it in other MPs article. :# A full year ago? That's not a long-time. This is supposed to be a biography, not her latest news. :# It has a lot of bearing on her work, as it indicates what position she takes on issues like accountability and frugality with tax-payers' money.
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== Cleanup attempt == OK, I have just given this a pretty serious overhaul, keeping in mind comments on this talk page. I believe I have covered most of the major concerns. However, it is far from complete. At this point, I think a casual reader would get a general sense of the concept and its different uses. I have added citations wherever possible, and I'd like to see more published sources for quotations. Please feel free to make additions or suggestions, but let's try to keep this from becoming unreadable. Thanks to all whose suggestions on this page were incorporated into this iteration.
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Stop changing Larxene's title. It is directly from the Proof of Existence room in the World That Never Was. If you have an issue with it, take it up with the translators. )
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` ==RfA Results and Thanks== {| style=``border:3px green solid;padding:10px`` |, thank you for your constructive opposition in my recent RfA. Although it did not succeed as no consensus was declared (final: 65/29/7), I know that there is always an opportunity to request adminship again. In the meantime, I will do my best to address your concerns in the hope that when the opportunity for adminship arises once again, you will reconsider your position. If at any time I make any mistakes or if you would like to comment on my contributions to Wikipedia, you are more than . Regardless of your religious, cultural, and personal beliefs, I pray that whatever and whoever motivates you in life continues to guide you on the most righteous path. - | |}`
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` ==References== *H. J. Blokhuis and J. W. Van Der Haar, ``Effects of floor type during rearing and of beak trimming on ground pecking and feather pecking in laying hens,`` Applied Animal Behaviour Science, Volume 22, Issues 3-4, April 1989, Pages 359-369. *J. V. Craig and H. -Y. Lee, ``Beak trimming and genetic stock effects on behavior and mortality from cannibalism in White Leghorn-type pullets,`` Applied Animal Behaviour Science, Volume 25, Issues 1-2, January 1990, Pages 107-123. *M. J. Gentle, B. O. Hughes and R. C. Hubrecht, ``The effect of beak trimming on food intake, feeding behaviour and body weight in adult hens,`` Applied Animal Ethology, Volume 8, Issues 1-2, January 1982, Pages 147-159. *M. J. Gentle, B. H. Thorp and B. O. Hughes, ``Anatomical consequences of partial beak amputation (beak trimming) in turkeys,`` Research in Veterinary Science, Volume 58, Issue 2, March 1995, Pages 158-162. *P.C. Glatz, ``Beak Trimming Methods - Review,`` Asian-Australasian Journal of Animal Sciences, Volume 13, Issue 11, November 2000, Pages 1619-1637. *P.C. Glatz (Ed.), Poultry Welfare Issues: Beak Trimming, Nottingham University Press, 2005. *P.Y. Hester and M. Shea-Moore, ``Beak trimming egg-laying strains of chickens,`` World's Poultry Science Journal, Volume 59, Number 4, December 2003, pp. 458-474. *C.F. Honaker and P.L. Ruszler, ``The effect of claw and beak reduction on growth parameters and fearfulness of two leghorn strains,`` Poultry Science, Volume 83, Issue 6, June 2004, Pages 873-881. *M.J. Jendral and F.E. Robinson, ``Beak trimming in chickens: Historical, economical, physiological and welfare implications, and alternatives for preventing feather pecking and cannibalistic activity,`` Avian and Poultry Biology Reviews, Volume 15, Issue 1, 2004, Pages 9-23. *R.B. Jones, et al., ``Feather pecking in poultry: The application of science in a search for practical solutions,`` Animal Welfare, Volume 13, Issue SUPPL., February 2004, Pages S215-S219. *Persyn, K.E., et al., ``Feeding behaviors of laying hens with or without beak trimming,`` Transactions of the American Society of Agricultural Engineers, Volume 47, Issue 2, March 2004, Pages 591-596. *N.B. Prescott and R.H.C. Bonser, ``Beak trimming reduces feeding efficiency of hens,`` Journal of Applied Poultry Research, Volume 13, Issue 3, September 2004, Pages 468-471. *C.J. Savory, ``Laying hen welfare standards: A classic case of 'power to the people,'`` Animal Welfare, Volume 13, Issue SUPPL., February 2004, Pages S153-S158. * D. W. van Liere, ``Responsiveness to a novel preening stimulus long after partial beak amputation (beak trimming) in laying hens,`` Behavioural Processes, Volume 34, Issue 2, July 1995, Pages 169-174. *L. Workman and L. J. Rogers, ``Pecking preferences in young chicks: Effects of nutritive reward and beak-trimming,`` Applied Animal Behaviour Science, Volume 26, Issues 1-2, March 1990, Pages 115-126.`
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Hey, Chris. How random. I happened to look up the Ignobles on Wikipedia and saw your editing footprint. chirsch AT gmail DOT com.
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== Bot flag? == I couldn't find any description of the tasks of this bot, neither is it listed at WP:BOTS, nor did I find an approval procedure for this bot at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approvals ... does this bot need a bot flag? (currently No. 54 at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Listusers&group;=Bot&limit;=100&offset;=0) PS, appears to be primarily an interwiki-bot () - is that so? In that case, please list at Wikipedia:Bots#Interwiki Bots
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:: I am fed up with editors and administrators ignoring requests for assistance in removing personal attacks by dismissing inappropriate behaviour as 'that's just the way he is'. If Mr Steadman's ego is so fragile that he cannot participate in an online debate without getting hysterical, then perhaps he shouldn't do it. I want these comments removed. If not, then I will refer you to arbitaration for abuse of admin privileges, I will refer Mr Steadman for his CIV/AGF and NO PERSONAL ATTACKS - to get his page deleted or improved and to have him sanctioned. You keep on playing the guilt card and telling me to move on - I have, I have kept away from him - all I want is for someone to prevent him from attacking me. Please sort it.
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I'm sorry if that last message seemed a little abrupt. I'm not having a go at you, I'm just cross that you reverted the edits when I'm not sure if you had the right to do so.
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* Heh, thanks. Emmanuel College (my former high school) are infamous for vandalism, and now that they've discovered my page I foresee a substantial degree of it. If it's easy enough for you to protect my page, I'd be extremely grateful.
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**I'd prefer to leave the talk open should new users or IPs need to contact me regarding edits and other contents. Thanks for all this.
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== == My IP and username Prasi90 have been indefinitely blocked by MONGO.I havent even edited for more than 3-4 days now.MONGO had earlier asked me to take the matter to RFAR.I could not find the time to do this earlier.Later even without taking the matter to RFAR,MONGO blocked me.Please help.
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:I don't think so. This is the topic of many books besides Ninetee Eighty-Four. No particular reason to include exactly that one. A superb book, though.
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`:On the contrary - the three men are not mentioned in the history of the church, unless in a footnote in the comprehensive history. The ``legends`` come from the Smith murder trial records, and interviews with RLDS leaders later. - `
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` ::These Iranis lie. The same as their imam and their president. It was an edit conflict and I don't know how old are you that they can so simply trick you. I know who are Iranians! + `
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` :::It only needs one word: Mainly we say they mainly live in occyupied Kurdistan by turkeys. + `
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:Cunado you are simply wrong. Miller states quite clearly if you'd bother to read it, that he was given over eleven *hundred* pages of original manuscript pages. Some of the statements in his work, as far as I know, do not exist outside of his work. And whether he is partisan or not is irrelevant. Everything published by the Baha'is is partisan as well. Putting all sources together is called balance or npov. Only relying on *approved* Baha'i sources isn't balance. Read the first few pages of the Miller book I cited, see for yourself what he does or doesn't say. He read Persian and Arabic himself, so he was quite able to understand the original manuscripts he was reading.
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` turk! turks occupied it and today are drinking the blood of Kurdish people. + `
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` Good, so you are not from them. Sorry. + `
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` ::Use it in the article but not as definition because there will be no Indo-Europan lablleing and nothing. The way as Khoikhoi suggested. I dont know have you agreed on that? + `
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` == Requested move == Article should be moved to non-abbreviated form. However, Maine School Administrative District 52 is currently a ``soft`` redirect to here. `
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== Armenian Genocide == Finally, i have decided to add my comments.What a shame that you armenians are trying to show it had been happened to you what you have done against Turks only for money and land request. By the way, armenian genocide was not recognized by the slandered government.So this propaganda article is illegal...
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:: The link is what I call 'lying with the truth' in that it is an attempt to give people the belief that homeopaths support vaccination, whereas the vast majority don't. Only allopathic ones, which tells a tale, although one homeopathic MD has written a book denouncing vaccination.
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Nutritional vitamin C cure of measles left out
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This is the discussion page...
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:Please also see Wikipedia_talk:Deletion_review/Userbox_debates#Blanking_of_DrV_debates_by_User:Doc_glasgow_and_User:Pgk.
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What's soapbox? Everybody has right to know the trues...
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== Bot warning == Huh? What vandalism?
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` :In view of this, I have to propose the following - heavy NPOV-ing is needed. More sources are needed (two of those cited in external links section are biased to say the least, one being Milosevic's testimony in Hague, the other from a known apologist of Milosevic regime Carl Savich). Title should be changed to something like ``Dalmatian Serb pogrom of 1991``, pogrom being much more neutral and not relating to a specific incident, but Dalmatian Crystal Night should remain as a redirect. I won't change anything without at least some kind of consensus, but I will certainly not allow this version to stay. Please comment. `
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OK. I am not going to diss. with you anymore. Because, you are an hopless nationalist. Besides, there are no Ottoman sources that shows 20 thousand deaths. According to Ottoman sources 17 thousands Armenians and 1845 Turkic-Muslims were death after all. Lastly, dont be afraid of my english skill. I am still trying to improve it.
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:: Ant. = Anthioch. I should ask you for you addition. Why do you add that ?
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` === Bolding === About the bolding of FYROM in the first paragraph, we've been having a dispute similar to this over at the Persian Gulf page. It seems that according to Wikipedia:Manual of Style, alternative names should be bolded. However, the dispute is ongoing, whether ``Arabian Gulf`` is an alternative name or not. The issue here is different - FYROM is definitely an alternative name - so it should be bolded. `
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` ::It's not just ``a few holdouts.`` It's the majority of WP:CASH. - `
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== purpose == Sakura needs more of a purpose in the fillers, especially in the series
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==Thanx== Thank you for your concern. Yes unfortunately wikipedia is a battleground for some people. Look here and see what i mean about Khoikhoi. ( )
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The following is a letter of apology posted by me on MONGO's talk page expressing my regret at past actions and my willingness to change.MONGO has blocked me even after I added this message to his talk page.As can be seen Prasi90 is my user ID.I am adding an unblock template here to attract the attention of MONGO and other administrators.Please remove the said template if I was wrong in adding it I have as you can see been unblocked by NSLE who however wants me to take the matter up with WP:RFAR.However,as I told him,I do not want to get into any more conflicts with you.I am sorry if I offended you via my e-mails or my comments on your English.I am also sorry for insulting Americans.I hope you will accept this apology.I have no desire to have any animosity with you.I will refrain from indulging in trolling-however I request you to please stop blocking me repeatedly for trivial issues.It is my wish that we can both bury the hatchet and move on since the constant arguements between us are pointless.Once again,I am sorry if I have offended you.User:Prasi90
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This is how it will be: * Part 1: Gather up articles that are believed to be in need of being merged or redirected. * Part 2: Gather up people to discuss what articles deserve to stay, and what do not. * Part 3: Discuss this as a group. * Part 4: Act on our discussion. * Part 5: Hopefully, this part will involve us doing the same against the Pokémon articles, Fire Emblem articles or Final Fantasy articles. -
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Thanks for experimenting with the page Balloon on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thanks. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here: link. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me.
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`The year of born can be found in SanGuoZhi, ``漢光和?年?月?日``, After converting to AD, it should be the year in a previous version. (Or the editor of this version think that it may not the true date od birth?)`
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`You are a child or teenager and do not deserve to be an admin on this childish forum wikipedia. There are some Irani terrorists vandalising this forum and no one cares. These are pasdar terrorist and I am glad that soon their country will be bombed and divided into several free countries. I'm happy for that ). + `
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April 2006 (UTC) ::: You allopaths took it upon yourselves to ban links to whale, which you call an 'approved RFC outcome'-I'd like to see the actual wording regarding that, so SHOW ME THE DIFF on that. Your only argument was ad hominem, which isn't an argument in case you hadn't noticed. You can't use that argument with Vaccination.org.uk as it doesn't have any conspiracy stuff on it. 09:01, 2
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:: Hi all, *I corrected chronology section as much as I can. *map of Antiochia, according to map, Antiochia is absolutely Antakya. Therefore, it must have been remowed. *Armenian Kingdom falls middle ages. so I moved related info.. *I added Etymology section and deleted section of names. Happy ?
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` :Childish talk! LOL. Seeing you write ``Episcopalian`` like that, makes me laugh. `
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::Because the Scottish Episcopal Church is a part of the Anglican Communion and therefore Anglicanism, many assume that it is a Scottish district in Britain...or something like that.
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== Let the flame war begin == The title says it all.
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With all due respect to MONGO I want some other admin to look into this issue.Hence the unblock template.
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::Errr, in all due respect, it is very important. A lot of people hold the view that Scots is a dialect of English, and so should receive fair representation.
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: You don't want anyone to know you have an professional interest in vaccination, so you suppress use of the word allopath.
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` :: I agree with Jwadeg's suggestions, except I strongly oppose the kind of ``synopsis`` that most TV-show articles (including Buffy) have. This material more properly belongs in the original film articles, most of which either don't yet exist or are stubs. One hope I have in proposing this parallel-article scheme is to get two articles started for each episode, advancing both the MST3K content and adding to the WikiProject Films work. Placing detailed synopses in the MST3K articles would be redundant and even misleading, as many MSTied films have elements that are missing in their edited versions (not necessarily to sabotage, as some suspect, but clearly to trim their lengths). Both the episodes and the films deserve articles that discuss their distinct qualities: the films for their own values (however questionable or amusing), and the episodes, for which the film plots are only riff fodder. ~   `
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Who are you? JettaMann
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` == Jeepers == I just came looking for info on Madame Sosostris and I found this preening custerfluck instead. I thought I remembered the character from a modern opera called ``A Midsummer Marriage``, and then discovered the name was most likely inspired by T.S. Eliot's poem, ``The Wasteland``, which, in turn, was inspred by Huxley? Edit away. I just thought that if somebody came to this page it might be nice if they actually found some info on Madame Sosostris. And I hope you get over your Ashlee Simpson addiction. Truly, man, she's not worth it.`
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I want to reopen this as a proposal for division of Further reading into categories: #Sources and Background #Supporting #Critical #Other (including books containing both support and criticism) * Support. For the reasons the reasons above. Feel free to suggest other categories.
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==Maps== Hi! See Image:KolkatainIndia.png and Image:Calcutta Map.jpg. Can you mis these 2 a la Bangalore infobox? I do not know hoe to handle this photo-editors. At least, use the Image:KolkatainIndia.png and highlight a la Mumbai and Chennai. I tried, with pathetic result! Thanks. Bye.
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==PLEASE STOP VANDALISING MY USER TALK PAGE==
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`result will be a stronger article. | :::1. I do not want to hide Darwin, but give him is place where he belongs, as a historical figure and definition. 2. What I have seen in the old talk before I arrived, and during the time that I have been here, is that all specialists try it work on this and leave disillustioned. # # . I agree with Slrubenstein above. I have long argued that my position, Endler's position (position 1 high up in this discussion page) is a current scientific one and very closely linked with Darwin's. :Excatly, it is A current one. Not THE current one. making that THE definition is WP:NOR. # I agree with Slrubenstein and think Darwin belongs at top. Kim, I still can't see the prob with top containing 1.a darwin defn. 2. a statement that darwin's thinking changed (like a good scientist). 3. current defn. On readability, the tortured remnants of a previous editor's prose needs to go. :It confuses because the old definitions are incorrect. ::Kim, I do not see how you can say this unless you agree with Henry Ford that ``history is bunk.`` Most people are interested in history, and there are even scientists who are interested in the history of their science. That it confuses you does not mean (as I think is now evident) that it will confuse most readers of this encyclopedia. They understand that things change. They also understand that trends have beginnings. It is simply meaningless to say ``the old definition is incorrect.`` If you do not understand why, I urge you to read up on the philosophy of science - definitions are more or less useful. It was that old definition that led to a line of inquiry that has led evolutionary scientists to more precise and more useful understandings of the process. If anything, as educators we should show readers how scientists start with one formulation of natural selection and then refine it. ::You know, the fact that you reject Darwin's definition of natural selection does not mean natural selection and the theory of evolution are wrong. On the contrary, it simply means that science has a history, that scientists debate and refine concepts which necessarily change over time. Do you think this is a trivial point? In the United States, at least, you are dead wrong. If you are not from the US let me tell you, there is a huge ``creationist`` movement which has, on numerous ocassions, had the theory of evolution banned from high schools. And you should know that one ``argument`` they make is that Darwin was - well, as you say, ``incorrect.`` ``See!`` they exclaim, ``even scientists say Darwin was wrong! We should no longer teach evolution!`` Obviously, they misunderstand the way science works. They do not understand that scientists refine and develop theories without necessarily rejecting them. I think scientists have an obligation to educate people about this. Showing how scientists accept an idea, and then change its definition or conceptualization by refining it without repudiating it is the best way to accomplish this. | :You confuse hiding Darwin versus focusses on current usage first and add darwin's definitions in the history section. Okay, but with all due respect, you confuse starting with Darwin for focussing on Darwin. They aren't the same. There are two reasons for starting with Darwin: one, it is a reasonable starting point, two, whatever differences there are between you, Axel, Marco and others, or among different scientists who have published on natural selection, all can agree that Darwin introduced the idea. Why not just say @@@Natural selection''', as first introduced by Darwin, refered to .... Since Darwin, evolutionary scientists have revised his definition based on new findings in genetics and molecular biology...? | :The lead should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it could stand on its own as a concise version of the article.. I just do not think starting with an out of data definition does the job. Lets agree to disagree, and I will work on a
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Um... that wasn't me, Jonathan, i was at church at that time, and that ain't my IP address... why accuse me?
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Wow, that is how to deal with it! I totaly agree, no good came of this... it is sad... why can't people live together in peace, and let everyone contribute?
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== Neanderthal wikipedia entry == Scott, I agree the source provided for the Aborigine origins with Neanderthal man was not conclusive enough, so I added more data (including DNA evidence which is pretty hard to argue with) in the Neanderthal discussion page. Hope this clears that issue up for you. I look forward to reading your comments in the Neanderthal entry. JettaMann
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I agree, wise descision, Toa of Sound out. Toa of Sound retires from the Bionicle descussion, and it would be wise to follow.
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, because I'd rather ban a user indefinitely instead of banning an IP for a few days. I need this mechanism to stifle dissent and preserve my majesty.
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:Recommend you stop your vandalism.
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