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3,601	daddit	Why does it creep you out that someone could feel hatred for something that destroyed their former life and now costs them a massive amount of time and money in exchange for... Literally nothing?
3,602	daddit	It took me a few months until the profound love really kicked in and there were definitely times where I was just consumed with anger. The first 3 months I didn't have the time to focus on love, all I could think about was all of the responsibility and all the millions of ways I could fail here. It's great that you were able to settle into a good routine with your child in such quick time and I am sure there are many people here that wish they could have had that experience. However extrapolating your experience on to other people to judge how they felt in their first few months probably isn't the right thing to do if you take a moment to think about it.
3,603	daddit	AND then he said this an extension of his own securities and that he actually loves his kid and admitted to his own short comings.
3,604	daddit	You have no empathy for situations other then yours. He's human, we're all human. If you think this guy is human scum, I wonder what you'd think about my father.
3,605	daddit	This is the same dumb, arrogant, ignorant, asinine stubbornness that sentenced generations of mother's into depression and in some cases suicide. Congratulations you are a fucking piece of shit. - Signed a father who loves and thinks his kids are a blessing.
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3,607	daddit	They and the dumb shit from /r/all clearly didnt read this. Literally the fucking problem with this site. Everyone is ready to give their "expert" opinion.
3,608	daddit	He talks about wanting to punch his kid and says he wouldn't even feel bad to kill his kid in a world without consequences. Did YOU fucking read it? He's either trolling with this post or you guys are a seriously fucked up sub.
3,609	daddit	Not probably, definitely. This is absolutely ridiculous and anyone sympathizing with this man also needs to seek help.
3,610	daddit	I agree with you and i think that the guy youre responding too is also in denial of his own need for therapy
3,611	daddit	You hit the nail on the head. Narcissist.
3,612	daddit	Ok. But you're wrong because you don't know him in real life and never will
3,613	daddit	Having a chaotic baby upset his bubble. I knew going into it that I would be a total amateur, that's just how it goes. I guess some people think they will be great right from the start. Haha, nope!
3,614	daddit	Yeah what a scumbag amirite? /s
3,615	daddit	Lol. You judge people for things that have happened to them that they have no control over. Congratulations, you are actually a hypocritical piece of shit.
3,616	daddit	Everyone who responded anywhere in this comment chain other than you understood.
3,617	daddit	I'm completely sympathetic for anyone suffering from depression, mental issues. fuck knows I've been there myself. and no ammount of back patting ever helped my sorry ass get my shit together. I understand how hard it is when little ones come along, I said that, but the onus is on us as parents to do our very best for them and that doesn't include getting wasted to sort your shit out.
3,618	daddit	You just repeated what I said. He hated his son because of his own insecurities. Try again.
3,619	daddit	That's probably the most ignorant, uneducated crap anyone's written on Reddit. Firstly, WebMD cites the same study you did. I found the same study--you forgot to mention that postpartum in men only occurs marginally less often than it does in women, as you can see here: [webMD](http://www.webmd.com/baby/features/men-postpartum-depression) . Furthermore: DSM V classifies postpartum as a type of depression, and its symptoms are consistent with depression, so if you're trying to say that men can't get depression as a result of becoming a father, you're sorely mistaken, as proven by not only a ton of anecdotal evidence in this thread alone, but also by the ridiculously high suicide rate among men in general. Please educate yourself before you make ignorant generalizations. If women can be objectively diagnosed with postpartum depression after the birth of their child, men who are participating in their newborn's early life can, too.
3,620	daddit	If torrents are too much of a hassle and you don't have a VPN: www.SolarMovie.sc
3,621	daddit	I wish I could upvote this 10x.
3,622	daddit	Absolutely agree with your first paragraph--my brother was a really difficult kid (is now 26 and is still a difficult kid according to his wife lol), and my mom spent a lot of time worrying about how she was "supposed to" deal with his behaviors and stuff. Parenting isn't something you can learn from a book or other people. My mom has been a K teacher for 30 years and has learned this the hard way, with my brother and with her students. She says this to a lot of concerned parents, too.
3,623	daddit	It also took my wife and I about 6 months. Those first 6 months were some of the darkest of my life. We just weren't ready for the drastic lifestyle change. We knew it would be different but the lack of sleep really messes some people up. My son is now almost 5 years old and we are the closest family ever.
3,624	daddit	The guy said he'd kill his kid. You can talk all you want about people in high horses or some shit but it sounds like the horse isn't very high to me. It's just that OP is so low. Seriously, it's terrifying he changed his mind with a simple epiphany. What happens if the reverse occurs? It's ok?
3,625	daddit	Wanting to murder someone in a world without consequences is just where it kinda crossed the line for me Into maybe this is beyond regular PPD. But who knows. OP could like to exaggerate.
3,626	daddit	He describes how those thoughts caused him plenty of anguish and he's been trying to figure out how to talk himself out of them for weeks and was happy he was finally able to rid himself of these intrusive thoughts. Good on him.
3,627	daddit	He was having emotions, and instead of repressing them or running away from the situation or acting negatively, he stayed and worked through it and made things better. How do you have such little empathy? Actions are immoral. Emotions are not.
3,628	daddit	see this attitude is what sucks and is fucked up about some people here. It widely accepted that moms who go the ppd will experience thoughts of wanting to harm their child. But here its "the guy is a sick pos, people who sympathize w him are sick" and on and on and on. The same worthless drivel that neglected and sentence how many mothers to a life of depression or suicide? You and the few on this comment chain sound very naive. Armchair experts who know the psyche of a man because of a post. GTFO here. Should he see a therapist? of course, but is he a sick fucked up human that yall are painting him? Not by any means. Grow up. Happy Holidays.
3,629	daddit	I need therapy because i dont think that having thoughts is the same as commiting to action? PPD is a rough thing but to saying violent thoughts is something that definitively needs therapy is nonsense. Theres no evidence that he was clinically obsessing with these thoughts and clearly he was able to dismiss them. You guys need to think about how much being an keyboard psychologist doesnt help anyone
3,630	daddit	Love the armchair experts here
3,631	daddit	Every person is different, with their own mental instability/condition/disorder.
3,632	daddit	Hmm? Where am I judging anyone for anything but passing judgement on OP.
3,633	daddit	Depression is a bullshit "illness". Your never "cured" of "depression." Wishful thinking strategies do not "cure" "depression." They just let you live in denial for a while. Life is depressing. And you can either let it get you down, take a bunch of drugs and tawk abauwt your feewings to a therapist, or you can grab it by the balls and tough it out. Trust me, the latter is way better. You don't have to be an asshole like me, but you do have to toughen up a bit. People get depressed because they believe this sort of webmd shit. Its self-absorbed, narcissistic, and leaves you trapped in a cage. Therapists are paid to literally tell you what you want to here. Real family and friends don't cost money, and have your back, and care about you enough to tell you what you need to hear.
3,634	daddit	Great. Hopefully they don't come back and he actually acts on them. This guy needs to see a doctor. It's clear he has PPD.
3,635	daddit	Seriously. The dude was sleep deprived, stressed, exhausted. That's the perfect formula for some fucked up thoughts, but thoughts are thoughts. I'm no parent. Hell, I'm a college student but I do study psychology and have been through some extreme and post traumatic stress. You are not a bad person for simply thinking something morally wrong, especially when your brain isn't at its healthy potential. It's perfectly natural. It's perfectly normal when mothers think these thoughts through ppd but the dad is in the wrong?
3,636	daddit	I've raised three kids, never said I was an expert. It is seriously disturbing to see someone talk about a child like this, I don't need a degree in anything except maybe common sense to see that anyone that thinks like this is wrong and needs help. He is sick, this is fucked up, you grow up. Happy kwanza bitch.
3,637	daddit	just want to say the people downvoting you and responding to you in such a childish way are really highlighting their ignorance and naivety. Perhaps an extension of their own insecurities, but I'll leave the speculation to them. Just know you are not wrong and in women's health this is widlely accepted as part of ppd. These absolutist attitudes being show here are the same ones that damned how many mothers' to life of depression and in some cases suicide. Disgusting.
3,638	daddit	Ok, here's the thing. I said nothing about "curing anything", because there's no necessity for a cure to exist for symptoms to be classified as an illness. There's no cure for cancer either--I would know, as my entire maternal family has had cancer--but you can still have symptoms consistent with cancer, and be diagnosed with cancer, because cancer is an illness defined narrowly by a certain set of symptoms that manifest in the patient. Likewise, depression is a real diagnosable mental illness that's been defined very precisely by the DSM, 5 revised versions of which have been published by the American Psychiatric Association. If you're looking for a place to talk about your symptoms, I'm sure there's a subreddit for you to continue to talk out your ass. But there's no reason for you to make an ass of yourself in a thread about postpartum depression on a subreddit about fathering children.
3,639	daddit	It is not normal or natural to think what he was thinking. He has PPD and needs to see a doctor before something worse happens to his child.
3,640	daddit	And? Im sorry but where does it being disturbing to YOU matter? Younseem to miss the point that your moral outrage is not the basis for how we should handle this . Is it disturbing? Yes, of course. Thats part of ppd. But your experience doesnt negate millions of others who DO experience this. Clearly Im not the one who needs to grow up.
3,641	daddit	> Happy kwanza bitch
3,642	daddit	LOLOL. Your comparing cancer with DSM 5's definitions of human behavior? Your a fucking moron. Its people like you that make me deppressed.
3,643	daddit	So how many minds have you been in to state that it's not normal as a fact? That's right, that's your opinion and..as we all know, it's most likely wrong.
3,644	daddit	[Please educate yourself--the DSM is not "definitions of human behavior" at all. "DSM" stands for "diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders".](http://dsm.psychiatryonline.org/doi/book/10.1176/appi.books.9780890425596) Furthermore, it's abundantly clear that you have no grasp whatsoever of English grammar, as you've used "your" in place of the contraction "you're" multiple times in this exchange. If you're going to call someone a moron, please make sure you do so using proper grammar, or else you just look like an idiot.
3,645	daddit	You really put your faith in that book? You really trust the "experts" that wrote that book to tell you what a mental disorder is? Isn't it strange that the DSM grows at an exponential rate, every edition? Doesn't the fact that the people that write said DSM are also the ones that make loads of money off of diagnosing with the illnesses they make up in the DSM?
3,646	daddit	Congrats Governor, and welcome to our humble sub.
3,647	daddit	Someone on my reddit said this would be appreciated here! I am so proud of my son Patrick right now. Now that I know this place exists, I’ll make sure to share the next time I cut his hair!
3,648	daddit	How do we know this isn’t a bot posting? Someone call Cyberdyne. Congrats poppa Schwarzenegger. Quick question… As a son who works with his dad in the same industry (and now has a son and of his own). How did you work to allow your son to find his own success?
3,649	daddit	I had no idea u/GovSchwarzenegger was so active on reddit. That's pretty neat.
3,650	daddit	At first I was like "I don't get it." Then I checked to see who posted. Was not expecting u/GovSchwarzenegger to be OP. I gotta say, from what I heard, your son had to make his own way in his career. I know at a commencement speech you said that you’re “not a self made man” and that many were responsible for helping you along the way. But I gotta admire the life lessons it seems that you’ve taught your son, and all of us fellow dads along the way. Thanks for posting and congratulations to Patrick and your whole family for his accomplishments.
3,651	daddit	The Governator is on Daddit! Fantastic! Any parenting tips/lessons/experiences worth sharing from a dad whose kid turned out all right?
3,652	daddit	Congrats, dad! He was great in Moxie :)
3,653	daddit	Now I can say that I am just like Arnold Schwarzenegger. I’ll just leave off the part where I clarify it’s because I too am proud of my son and not my physique.
3,654	daddit	Congrats Governator! My daughter just drank 100ml of milk tonight, so you can imagine my similar feelings of pride.
3,655	daddit	Yo! Arnie! Welcome to daddit!
3,656	daddit	I just became a dad after my daughter was born 2 weeks ago and one of the first posts I see in r/daddit is by the frickin Terminator?? You have set a high bar, daddit!!
3,657	daddit	R/daddit, while not tiny, is definitely a smaller sub here. We’re happy to have you Governor Schwarzenegger. (Ps. As a Californian who came of age during your tenure as Gov… thanks for all the hard work)
3,658	daddit	Lol I was trying to figure out how this young kid was a proud dad. Congrats Arnold, being a proud dad is the best feeling
3,659	daddit	I'm 20 minutes into the first episode and I must say: it's _phenomenal_ so far. Wonderful to see you here in /r/daddit!
3,660	daddit	Here's my thought process: * Hmm, a guy pointing to a poster. Is that the dad or the son? * Reading the article, okay that's probably his name. So he's the son and his dad is proud. * Nice I guess but why so popular? * Unusual name, I wonder if he's related * HOLY FUCKING SHIT
3,661	daddit	That's awesome! My 11 year old keeps telling me not to stress, because her youtube-star money is gonna take care of me when I'm old. Here's to hoping she's right!
3,662	daddit	This is great, Mr. Schwarzenegger! Your legacy lives on. Any advice for a father of a 3 year old and a 6 month old?
3,663	daddit	Congrats pops!
3,664	daddit	Lol. Welc0me to Daddit! And Congrats! It always feels great to root for our Littles and watch them grow! Keep up the good work.
3,665	daddit	Welcome! I recently watched your speech to Russia, and I have to say, you've got a really empathetic understanding of your own father and the suffering he's gone through. Between that and your many roles focusing on fatherhood, it makes sense that you would be a great and thoughtful dad. I hope you stick around!
3,666	daddit	Who is your son, and what does he do? All seriousness though, congratulations on your proud dad moment. Nothing compares!
3,667	daddit	Well this was unexpected.
3,668	daddit	My son is only 2, but it seems like every day there’s something that makes me swell up with pride. Being a dad is wild
3,669	daddit	Wait! What the hell is this?! Arnold is that really you??? Do you have a son who is an actor??
3,670	daddit	Sometimes it’s easy to forget celebrities are just normal people also. Congrats on this amazing accomplishment as a dad and to your son!
3,671	daddit	Congratulations. Welcome to one of the most wholesome places on the internet.
3,672	daddit	You could say… he’ll be back
3,673	daddit	That’s awesome, no matter how famous one is, they will proudly post their children’s achievements on Reddit. Congrats!
3,674	daddit	Welcome to the community sir. I have found it to be an incredibly supportive and helpful group of individuals. We're happy to have another dad here, especially one of your stature. Now make sure you'll be back!
3,675	daddit	Welcome to daddit! Today my daughter was having a meltdown in the car so I did my best impressions of you and it calmed her down and made her smile. Thanks for that.
3,676	daddit	At first I read this as someone's son was in a movie with Schwarzenegger. Then I read the username and thought "wow what are the odds, this guy has a Schwarzenegger username on Reddit and his son ends up in a movie with him." ...I am very tired. Congratulations to your son! You and your family must be very proud.
3,677	daddit	The Governator is one of us!?
3,678	daddit	Congrats, Arnold! Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. My son is also named Patrick!
3,679	daddit	Thanks for sharing and congratulations!
3,680	daddit	Welcome! Can’t wait to check out the new series this weekend!!
3,681	daddit	Thank you for sharing Mr. Schwarzenegger. Just watched the first two episodes and I agree with the article. The kids in the show have done a wonderful job.
3,682	daddit	Welcome to the group sir. I would like to say I grew up watching commando and predator with my father and I have just started easing my son into some of your hits. He is officially a 3rd generation fan of yours!
3,683	daddit	You're an inspiration to me, your movies got me through some tough times as crazy as that sounds. Congratulations to your son Patrick, you obviously have been doing something right! My boys are a little too young for most of your movies but he laughed his ass off to kindergarten cop.
3,684	daddit	Very cool of you to post here and congrats to your son! I'm a fairly new dad with a daughter almost 11 months old, I can't imagine how proud you feel. Edit: I'll also need to check out this show! Seems interesting. :)
3,685	daddit	I'll check it out tonight. It's always a great feeling seeing them succeed in something and pursue their dreams. I'm explaining right now to my 11 year old that careers in the Arts actually exist and will provide for you if you're dedicated and passionate. She's a very talented artist, far better than I am at my current age, and now she's aware that things like illustrations for books, films, or movies and even tattoos require skilled artists and can make a livable wage.
3,686	daddit	Arnold is a global treasure. Truly a man who thinks beyond himself and recognizes that we are all in this together. Great post! And welcome!
3,687	daddit	My son is almost 2 and he started saying GET DOWN in a way that sounds just like you, /u/USER. Count me in as another proud dad!
3,688	daddit	Yes! Welcome to the group! Any advice to someone raising a daughter?
3,689	daddit	This is awesome
3,690	daddit	We're all happy for you Dadinator!
3,691	daddit	I was thinking “Oh I love acting, so fun to see someone proud of their child, lemme look at their name and see if I have seen them in anything”. “Huh Schwarzenegger, since Odessa is a woman so this must be patrick, really uncommon name only ever know it from Arnold”. “Oh this Arnorld Schwarzenegger’s account…that makes sense.”
3,692	daddit	Wtf is happening
3,693	daddit	Have you ever told your kids to put that cookie down, now!?
3,694	daddit	Be proud! You've both earned it! Thanks for stopping by and hope you visit as you can.
3,695	daddit	Wow, so cool. You must be one super proud father right now. I think it's every man's dream to watch his kids succeed. Good job governer dad
3,696	daddit	Welcome to the sub. Can't believe my hero is here on daddit!
3,697	daddit	Well this is a very wholesome surprise! Certainly lifts the bar on the rest of us posting moments of pride with our kids (though obviously doesn't make them any less valid)!
3,698	daddit	Congratz Govenator! Its a fun change to see somebody share something about their kid as they are older. A nice change from all the baby stuff.
3,699	daddit	That’s awesome. Thanks for all the great quotes I get from Kindergarten Cop. [STOP IT!!!!!](https://youtu.be/7E0QjtJz-tE)
3,700	daddit	I love how all of your posts are so wholesome.

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Why does it creep you out that someone could feel hatred for something that destroyed their former life and now costs them a massive amount of time and money in exchange for... Literally nothing?

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It took me a few months until the profound love really kicked in and there were definitely times where I was just consumed with anger. The first 3 months I didn't have the time to focus on love, all I could think about was all of the responsibility and all the millions of ways I could fail here. It's great that you were able to settle into a good routine with your child in such quick time and I am sure there are many people here that wish they could have had that experience. However extrapolating your experience on to other people to judge how they felt in their first few months probably isn't the right thing to do if you take a moment to think about it.

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AND then he said this an extension of his own securities and that he actually loves his kid and admitted to his own short comings.

3,604

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You have no empathy for situations other then yours. He's human, we're all human. If you think this guy is human scum, I wonder what you'd think about my father.

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This is the same dumb, arrogant, ignorant, asinine stubbornness that sentenced generations of mother's into depression and in some cases suicide. Congratulations you are a fucking piece of shit. - Signed a father who loves and thinks his kids are a blessing.

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3,607

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They and the dumb shit from /r/all clearly didnt read this. Literally the fucking problem with this site. Everyone is ready to give their "expert" opinion.

3,608

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He talks about wanting to punch his kid and says he wouldn't even feel bad to kill his kid in a world without consequences. Did YOU fucking read it? He's either trolling with this post or you guys are a seriously fucked up sub.

3,609

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Not probably, definitely. This is absolutely ridiculous and anyone sympathizing with this man also needs to seek help.

3,610

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I agree with you and i think that the guy youre responding too is also in denial of his own need for therapy

3,611

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You hit the nail on the head. Narcissist.

3,612

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Ok. But you're wrong because you don't know him in real life and never will

3,613

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Having a chaotic baby upset his bubble. I knew going into it that I would be a total amateur, that's just how it goes. I guess some people think they will be great right from the start. Haha, nope!

3,614

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Yeah what a scumbag amirite? /s

3,615

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Lol. You judge people for things that have happened to them that they have no control over. Congratulations, you are actually a hypocritical piece of shit.

3,616

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Everyone who responded anywhere in this comment chain other than you understood.

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I'm completely sympathetic for anyone suffering from depression, mental issues. fuck knows I've been there myself. and no ammount of back patting ever helped my sorry ass get my shit together. I understand how hard it is when little ones come along, I said that, but the onus is on us as parents to do our very best for them and that doesn't include getting wasted to sort your shit out.

3,618

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You just repeated what I said. He hated his son because of his own insecurities. Try again.

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That's probably the most ignorant, uneducated crap anyone's written on Reddit. Firstly, WebMD cites the same study you did. I found the same study--you forgot to mention that postpartum in men only occurs *marginally* less often than it does in women, as you can see here: [webMD](http://www.webmd.com/baby/features/men-postpartum-depression) . Furthermore: DSM V classifies postpartum as a type of depression, and its symptoms are consistent with depression, so if you're trying to say that men can't get depression as a result of becoming a father, you're sorely mistaken, as proven by not only a ton of anecdotal evidence in this thread alone, but also by the ridiculously high suicide rate among men in general. Please educate yourself before you make ignorant generalizations. If women can be objectively diagnosed with postpartum depression after the birth of their child, men who are participating in their newborn's early life can, too.

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If torrents are too much of a hassle and you don't have a VPN: www.SolarMovie.sc

3,621

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I wish I could upvote this 10x.

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Absolutely agree with your first paragraph--my brother was a really difficult kid (is now 26 and is still a difficult kid according to his wife lol), and my mom spent a lot of time worrying about how she was "supposed to" deal with his behaviors and stuff. Parenting isn't something you can learn from a book or other people. My mom has been a K teacher for 30 years and has learned this the hard way, with my brother and with her students. She says this to a lot of concerned parents, too.

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It also took my wife and I about 6 months. Those first 6 months were some of the darkest of my life. We just weren't ready for the drastic lifestyle change. We knew it would be different but the lack of sleep really messes some people up. My son is now almost 5 years old and we are the closest family ever.

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The guy said he'd kill his kid. You can talk all you want about people in high horses or some shit but it sounds like the horse isn't very high to me. It's just that OP is so low. Seriously, it's terrifying he changed his mind with a simple epiphany. What happens if the reverse occurs? It's ok?

3,625

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Wanting to murder someone in a world without consequences is just where it kinda crossed the line for me Into maybe this is beyond regular PPD. But who knows. OP could like to exaggerate.

3,626

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He describes how those thoughts caused him plenty of anguish and he's been trying to figure out how to talk himself out of them for weeks and was happy he was finally able to rid himself of these intrusive thoughts. Good on him.

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He was having emotions, and instead of repressing them or running away from the situation or acting negatively, he stayed and worked through it and made things better. How do you have such little empathy? **Actions** are immoral. **Emotions** are not.

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see this attitude is what sucks and is fucked up about some people here. It widely accepted that moms who go the ppd will experience thoughts of wanting to harm their child. But here its "the guy is a sick pos, people who sympathize w him are sick" and on and on and on. The same worthless drivel that neglected and sentence how many mothers to a life of depression or suicide? You and the few on this comment chain sound very naive. Armchair experts who know the psyche of a man because of a post. GTFO here. Should he see a therapist? of course, but is he a sick fucked up human that yall are painting him? Not by any means. Grow up. Happy Holidays.

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I need therapy because i dont think that having thoughts is the same as commiting to action? PPD is a rough thing but to saying violent thoughts is something that definitively needs therapy is nonsense. Theres no evidence that he was clinically obsessing with these thoughts and clearly he was able to dismiss them. You guys need to think about how much being an keyboard psychologist doesnt help anyone

3,630

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Love the armchair experts here

3,631

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Every person is different, with their own mental instability/condition/disorder.

3,632

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Hmm? Where am I judging anyone for anything but passing judgement on OP.

3,633

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Depression is a bullshit "illness". Your never "cured" of "depression." Wishful thinking strategies do not "cure" "depression." They just let you live in denial for a while. Life is depressing. And you can either let it get you down, take a bunch of drugs and tawk abauwt your feewings to a therapist, or you can grab it by the balls and tough it out. Trust me, the latter is way better. You don't have to be an asshole like me, but you do have to toughen up a bit. People get depressed because they believe this sort of webmd shit. Its self-absorbed, narcissistic, and leaves you trapped in a cage. Therapists are paid to literally tell you what you want to here. Real family and friends don't cost money, and have your back, and care about you enough to tell you what you need to hear.

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Great. Hopefully they don't come back and he actually acts on them. This guy needs to see a doctor. It's clear he has PPD.

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Seriously. The dude was sleep deprived, stressed, exhausted. That's the perfect formula for some fucked up thoughts, but thoughts are thoughts. I'm no parent. Hell, I'm a college student but I do study psychology and have been through some extreme and post traumatic stress. You are not a bad person for simply thinking something morally wrong, *especially* when your brain isn't at its healthy potential. It's perfectly natural. It's perfectly normal when mothers think these thoughts through ppd but the dad is in the wrong?

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I've raised three kids, never said I was an expert. It is seriously disturbing to see someone talk about a child like this, I don't need a degree in anything except maybe common sense to see that anyone that thinks like this is wrong and needs help. He is sick, this is fucked up, you grow up. Happy kwanza bitch.

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just want to say the people downvoting you and responding to you in such a childish way are really highlighting their ignorance and naivety. Perhaps an extension of their own insecurities, but I'll leave the speculation to them. Just know you are not wrong and in women's health this is widlely accepted as part of ppd. These absolutist attitudes being show here are the same ones that damned how many mothers' to life of depression and in some cases suicide. Disgusting.

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Ok, here's the thing. I said nothing about "curing anything", because there's no necessity for a cure to exist for symptoms to be classified as an illness. There's no cure for cancer either--I would know, as my entire maternal family has had cancer--but you can still have symptoms consistent with cancer, and be diagnosed with cancer, because cancer is an illness defined narrowly by a certain set of symptoms that manifest in the patient. Likewise, depression is a real diagnosable mental illness that's been defined very precisely by the DSM, 5 revised versions of which have been published by the American Psychiatric Association. If you're looking for a place to talk about your symptoms, I'm sure there's a subreddit for you to continue to talk out your ass. But there's no reason for you to make an ass of yourself in a thread about postpartum depression on a subreddit about fathering children.

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It is not normal or natural to think what he was thinking. He has PPD and needs to see a doctor before something worse happens to his child.

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And? Im sorry but where does it being disturbing to YOU matter? Younseem to miss the point that your moral outrage is not the basis for how we should handle this . Is it disturbing? Yes, of course. Thats part of ppd. But your experience doesnt negate millions of others who DO experience this. Clearly Im not the one who needs to grow up.

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> Happy kwanza bitch

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LOLOL. Your comparing cancer with DSM 5's definitions of human behavior? Your a fucking moron. Its people like you that make me deppressed.

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So how many minds have you been in to state that it's not normal as a fact? That's right, that's your opinion and..as we all know, it's most likely wrong.

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[Please educate yourself--the DSM is not "definitions of human behavior" at all. "DSM" stands for "diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders".](http://dsm.psychiatryonline.org/doi/book/10.1176/appi.books.9780890425596) Furthermore, it's abundantly clear that you have no grasp whatsoever of English grammar, as you've used "your" in place of the contraction "you're" multiple times in this exchange. If you're going to call someone a moron, please make sure you do so using proper grammar, or else you just look like an idiot.

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You really put your faith in that book? You really trust the "experts" that wrote that book to tell you what a mental disorder is? Isn't it strange that the DSM grows at an exponential rate, every edition? Doesn't the fact that the people that write said DSM are also the ones that make loads of money off of diagnosing with the illnesses they make up in the DSM?

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Congrats Governor, and welcome to our humble sub.

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Someone on my reddit said this would be appreciated here! I am so proud of my son Patrick right now. Now that I know this place exists, I’ll make sure to share the next time I cut his hair!

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How do we know this isn’t a bot posting? Someone call Cyberdyne. Congrats poppa Schwarzenegger. Quick question… As a son who works with his dad in the same industry (and now has a son and of his own). How did you work to allow your son to find his own success?

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I had no idea u/GovSchwarzenegger was so active on reddit. That's pretty neat.

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At first I was like "I don't get it." Then I checked to see who posted. Was not expecting u/GovSchwarzenegger to be OP. I gotta say, from what I heard, your son had to make his own way in his career. I know at a commencement speech you said that you’re “not a self made man” and that many were responsible for helping you along the way. But I gotta admire the life lessons it seems that you’ve taught your son, and all of us fellow dads along the way. Thanks for posting and congratulations to Patrick and your whole family for his accomplishments.

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The Governator is on Daddit! Fantastic! Any parenting tips/lessons/experiences worth sharing from a dad whose kid turned out all right?

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Congrats, dad! He was great in Moxie :)

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Now I can say that I am just like Arnold Schwarzenegger. I’ll just leave off the part where I clarify it’s because I too am proud of my son and not my physique.

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Congrats Governator! My daughter just drank 100ml of milk tonight, so you can imagine my similar feelings of pride.

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Yo! Arnie! Welcome to daddit!

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I just became a dad after my daughter was born 2 weeks ago and one of the first posts I see in r/daddit is by the frickin Terminator?? You have set a high bar, daddit!!

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R/daddit, while not tiny, is definitely a smaller sub here. We’re happy to have you Governor Schwarzenegger. (Ps. As a Californian who came of age during your tenure as Gov… thanks for all the hard work)

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Lol I was trying to figure out how this young kid was a proud dad. Congrats Arnold, being a proud dad is the best feeling

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I'm 20 minutes into the first episode and I must say: it's _phenomenal_ so far. Wonderful to see you here in /r/daddit!

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Here's my thought process: * Hmm, a guy pointing to a poster. Is that the dad or the son? * Reading the article, okay that's probably his name. So he's the son and his dad is proud. * Nice I guess but why so popular? * Unusual name, I wonder if he's related * HOLY FUCKING SHIT

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That's awesome! My 11 year old keeps telling me not to stress, because her youtube-star money is gonna take care of me when I'm old. Here's to hoping she's right!

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This is great, Mr. Schwarzenegger! Your legacy lives on. Any advice for a father of a 3 year old and a 6 month old?

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Congrats pops!

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Lol. Welc0me to Daddit! And Congrats! It always feels great to root for our Littles and watch them grow! Keep up the good work.

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Welcome! I recently watched your speech to Russia, and I have to say, you've got a really empathetic understanding of your own father and the suffering he's gone through. Between that and your many roles focusing on fatherhood, it makes sense that you would be a great and thoughtful dad. I hope you stick around!

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Who is your son, and what does he do? All seriousness though, congratulations on your proud dad moment. Nothing compares!

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Well this was unexpected.

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My son is only 2, but it seems like every day there’s something that makes me swell up with pride. Being a dad is wild

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Wait! What the hell is this?! Arnold is that really you??? Do you have a son who is an actor??

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Sometimes it’s easy to forget celebrities are just normal people also. Congrats on this amazing accomplishment as a dad and to your son!

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Congratulations. Welcome to one of the most wholesome places on the internet.

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You could say… he’ll be back

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That’s awesome, no matter how famous one is, they will proudly post their children’s achievements on Reddit. Congrats!

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Welcome to the community sir. I have found it to be an incredibly supportive and helpful group of individuals. We're happy to have another dad here, especially one of your stature. Now make sure you'll be back!

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Welcome to daddit! Today my daughter was having a meltdown in the car so I did my best impressions of you and it calmed her down and made her smile. Thanks for that.

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At first I read this as someone's son was in a movie with Schwarzenegger. Then I read the username and thought "wow what are the odds, this guy has a Schwarzenegger username on Reddit and his son ends up in a movie with him." ...I am very tired. Congratulations to your son! You and your family must be very proud.

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The Governator is one of us!?

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Congrats, Arnold! Apple doesn't fall far from the tree. My son is also named Patrick!

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Thanks for sharing and congratulations!

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Welcome! Can’t wait to check out the new series this weekend!!

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Thank you for sharing Mr. Schwarzenegger. Just watched the first two episodes and I agree with the article. The kids in the show have done a wonderful job.

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Welcome to the group sir. I would like to say I grew up watching commando and predator with my father and I have just started easing my son into some of your hits. He is officially a 3rd generation fan of yours!

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You're an inspiration to me, your movies got me through some tough times as crazy as that sounds. Congratulations to your son Patrick, you obviously have been doing something right! My boys are a little too young for most of your movies but he laughed his ass off to kindergarten cop.

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Very cool of you to post here and congrats to your son! I'm a fairly new dad with a daughter almost 11 months old, I can't imagine how proud you feel. Edit: I'll also need to check out this show! Seems interesting. :)

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I'll check it out tonight. It's always a great feeling seeing them succeed in something and pursue their dreams. I'm explaining right now to my 11 year old that careers in the Arts actually exist and will provide for you if you're dedicated and passionate. She's a very talented artist, far better than I am at my current age, and now she's aware that things like illustrations for books, films, or movies and even tattoos require skilled artists and can make a livable wage.

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Arnold is a global treasure. Truly a man who thinks beyond himself and recognizes that we are all in this together. Great post! And welcome!

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My son is almost 2 and he started saying GET DOWN in a way that sounds just like you, /u/USER. Count me in as another proud dad!

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Yes! Welcome to the group! Any advice to someone raising a daughter?

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This is awesome

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We're all happy for you Dadinator!

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I was thinking “Oh I love acting, so fun to see someone proud of their child, lemme look at their name and see if I have seen them in anything”. “Huh Schwarzenegger, since Odessa is a woman so this must be patrick, really uncommon name only ever know it from Arnold”. “Oh this Arnorld Schwarzenegger’s account…that makes sense.”

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Wtf is happening

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Have you ever told your kids to put that cookie down, now!?

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Be proud! You've both earned it! Thanks for stopping by and hope you visit as you can.

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Wow, so cool. You must be one super proud father right now. I think it's every man's dream to watch his kids succeed. Good job governer dad

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Welcome to the sub. Can't believe my hero is here on daddit!

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Well this is a very wholesome surprise! Certainly lifts the bar on the rest of us posting moments of pride with our kids (though obviously doesn't make them any less valid)!

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Congratz Govenator! Its a fun change to see somebody share something about their kid as they are older. A nice change from all the baby stuff.

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That’s awesome. Thanks for all the great quotes I get from Kindergarten Cop. [STOP IT!!!!!](https://youtu.be/7E0QjtJz-tE)

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I love how all of your posts are so wholesome.