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And as someone mentioned earlier, from the apocryphal Book of Enoch,
satan was apparently kicked out for three times asserting his own will,
"I will". Hmmm...pro-choice looks kinda creepy here. | 4 |
451 |
That's right. Everyone. Even infants who cannot speak as yet. Even
a little child will rebelliously stick his finger in a light socket.
Even a little child will not want his diaper changed. Even a little
child will fight nap-time.
So far as Jesus saying "everyone":
A certain ruler asked Jesus, "Good teache... | 4 |
824 |
searching out our deceased ancestors so that we can perform the
ordinances -- such as baptism, confirmation, and marriage for time and
eternity -- that are required for a person to obtain salvation through
Christ and to live with Him through the eternities. These are people
who may have not had the oppo... | 4 |
497 |
[stuff about Mithras deleted]
| 4 |
4,417 |
That's the whole point, David. As spirits separated from their bodies
and living in the spirit world, they cannot undergo the ordinance of
marriage, just as they cannot be baptized, since there is no physical
body to be baptized. We perform these ordinances as proxies for them,
in their behalf. Thanks for asking. ... | 4 |
6,863 |
The basic definition that I use is:
The belief that Jesus was God incarnate.
The belief that Jesus was crucified and raised from the dead
for our salvation.
The acceptance of Jesus as personal Lord and Savior.
This would include most Christian denominations, but exclude the Unitarians.
| 4 |
6,874 | MC> Theory of Creationism: MY theistic view of the theory of
MC> creationism, (there are many others) is stated in Genesis
MC> 1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
And which order of Creation do you accept? The story of creation is one of the
many places in the Bible where the Story contradicts... | 4 |
2,843 |
EXACTLY!! Read that one sentence in there..."to the degree
that means other than the death penalty and military operations are
sufficient to keep the peace, then these non-violent provisions are to
be preferred..."
I don't believe that it is necessary for us to murder criminals to keep
the peace; the Church... | 4 |
4,689 | 4 | |
2,873 |
Oh, yes he did. You may not agree with his premises, and what he proved may
not apply to "reality" (if such a thing exists), but he certainly proved
something.
Got it in one. Similarly, a moral relativist will not judge one moral system
to be better than another in every possible circumstance. This does not,
howe... | 4 |
287 | (Anthony
If she doesn't welcome the excruciating pain of labor, the
selfish bitch deserves to die in childbirth. She was probably
lying about the rape anyway. | 4 |
6,004 |
Sorry Malcolm, but I rather believe Jesus than you.
Cheers,
Kent
| 4 |
6,077 |
Sorry, Fred, but for the purposes under discussion here, I must
disagree. Your point is true only in the sense that one cannot argue
against communism by reference to the Chinese or Soviet empires, since
those did not represent *true* communism. In judging the practical
consequences of Islam as a force to contend wi... | 4 |
5,911 | [reply to jimh@carson.u.washington.edu (James Hogan)]
I take the view that they are here for our entertainment. When they are
no longer entertaining, into the kill file they go. | 4 |
4,625 |
You have clearly demonstrated that you do not even know
what my religion is in order to make that assumption.
How I can present any argument when you put your hands over your
eyes and devise new irrevelant excuses each time? The fact remains,
you want to argue about something that you do not know anything about.
... | 4 |
5,510 |
> I'm leaning... SIRACH... is more directly referenced by JAMES
> than JOB or RUTH is... in any NT verse I've seen.
It would help if you mentioned chapter and verse from SIRACH and
from JAMES.
Job 5:13 ("He taketh the wise in their craftiness") seems to be
quoted in 1 Corinthians 3:19.
James 5:11 ("You have heard... | 4 |
4,849 |
Thank you. I now know at least that though I may be on drugs, at
least I'm not the only one.
Yes, this took some getting used to -- of course not having an Indian
connection, no knowledge of hindi, etc., this was not trivial for me.
I did have, thanks to the wonders of the net, "A Glossary to *Satanic
Verses*", pos... | 4 |
4,054 | unfortunately not
| 4 |
3,804 |
I'm very grateful for scott's reflections on this oft-quoted phrase. Could
someone please remind me of the Scriptural source for it? (Rom. 12.9 doesn't
count, kids.) The manner in which this little piece of conventional wisdom is
applied has, in my experience, been uniformly hateful and destructive. | 4 |
2,670 |
Or a religion is a cult that got co-opted by people who are better at
compartmentalizing their irrationality.
Peter | 4 |
2,807 |
Note that "scientific evidence" in this area does not prove any conclusions.
There has been evidence to suggest that a certain part of homosexual's
brains are different from heterosexuals- but that proves very little.
Also notice that the apostles did not have with them the "scientific
evidence" linking certain genes... | 4 |
2,272 |
Surely it was intended as wit.
By the way, which "atheist cause" were you referring to, Bill?
| 4 |
4,843 |
I see no other way of interpreting them other than homosexuyality
being wrong. Please tell me how these verses can be interpreted in
any other way. I read them and the surrounding text. | 4 |
7,074 |
God never changes. He still loves us. Sending Jesus was one of His
attempts to reconcile with mankind. The nature of God has not changed.
Sinning in the face of God was punishable by immediate death. There are
several OT passages to back this up. God is God. He cannot tolerate
the prescence of sin in His midst... | 4 |
3,591 | In God,
whose word I praise,
in God I trust;
I will not be afraid.
What can mortal man do to me? | 4 |
3,300 |
(Deletion)
Well, that is certainly different, but it looks as if there is a translation
found for everything. By the way, I am most surprised to hear that night and
day move in an orbit. | 4 |
5,932 | Andrew - continuing the discussion on the Deuterocanonicals...
Arguably, it is both. Since authority is a matter of both
communicator and recepiant we can say that, for example "Jesus
is Lord" whether the world at large accepts the authority or
not. Thus the Bible can be considered for its authoritative
content wheth... | 4 |
7,427 | Recently, I've asked myself a rather interesting question: What RIGHT does
god have on our lives (always assuming there is a god, of course...!) ??
In his infinite wisdom, he made it perfectly clear that if we don't live
according to his rules, we will burn in hell. Well, with what RIGHT can god
make that desicion? Le... | 4 |
2,031 | Brian, it doesn't offend me if you decide to reject Jesus
Christ. I only wish you would make that decision after you
learn who Jesus is. | 4 |
5,396 | Personally, I think it was Mrs. O'Leary's cow that knocked over that
lantern...
:*) | 4 |
1,012 | In response to alleged circular reasoning concerning the morality of
homosexuality, clh poses the following challenge:
I answer,
The circle is simple to break. The Church teaches that homosexual
behavior is immoral. This teaching is raw, impassionate, unassailable
dogma. That closes the argument for me.
... | 4 |
3,544 |
Let me salute Gary Chin for speaking the gospel which is our source
of life. Any who will follow his example, and accept the priorities
Christ commands of us, that the weightier matters of the law are justice
and mercy and good faith, is my brother or sister in Christ, and I will
attend to such a person with humil... | 4 |
6,607 | 4 | |
1,388 | 4 | |
5,873 |
Dress casual. Only in heaven is there a dress code (black tie and
self-important expression) | 4 |
6,795 | After reading the posts on this newsgroup for the pasts 4 months, it
has become apparent to me that this group is primarily active with
Liberals, Catholics, New Agers', and Athiests. Someone might think
to change the name to: soc.religion.any - or - perhaps even
soc.religion.new. It might seem to be more appro... | 4 |
1,702 | -= PASTORTALK =-
A weekly dialogue with a local pastor on the news of the day
by Carl (Gene) Wilkes
Startext: MC344578
CompuServe: 70423,600
Internet: 70423.600@compuserve.com
-= THIS WEEK'S THOUGHTS =-
... | 4 |
4,442 | #>In article <1993Apr20.070156.26910@abo.fi> MANDTBACKA@FINABO.ABO.FI
#
#># Ah, that old chestnut, your claim that moral objectivism ==
#>#scientific objectivism. I don't agree with it; now try proving, through
#>#some objective moral test, that my disagreeing is incorrect. =)
#>
#> Your claim, which you have del... | 4 |
6,175 | #|> #|>
#|> #|> #This is quite different from saying "Employing force on other people
#|> #|> #is immoral, period. Unfortunately, from time to time we are obliged
#|> #|> #to do this immoral thing for reasons of self-preservation, and so
#|> #|> #we have to bear the moral consequences of that.
#|> #|>
#|> #|> Since... | 4 |
5,597 |
It might be interesting for folk to know that the Church of Scotland
(also a Presbyterian church) managed to "agree to disagree" over
women's ordination for 25 years. The reasoning was that congregations
are free to call whoever they wish, and that Ministers and Sessions
choose elders. If a congregation did not wis... | 4 |
5,834 |
Okay, I went back and looked: sure enough, my hunch was right.
2 Peter was most likely written between 100-120 A.D.
Revelation was almost certainly written between 80-96 A.D.
Odds are the gospel of John was written around 90 A.D.
Best dates for Luke and Acts are around 80 A.D., maybe later.
A... | 4 |
7,079 | I guess I'm delving into a religious language area. What exactly is morality
or morals? I never thought of eating meat to be moral or immoral, but I think
it could be. How do we differentiate between not doing something because it is
a personal choice or preference and not doing something because we see it as
immo... | 4 |
1,917 | I can (and do) take religious writings as a metaphor for life.
I do this with all sorts of fiction, from Beowolf to Deep Space Nine.
The idea is to not limit yourself to one book, screen out the good
stuff from what you read, and to remember that it is all just a story.
You sound Buddist to me :^) | 4 |
2,709 | Q. Should teenagers have the freedom to choose what church they go to?
My friends teenage kids do not like to go to church.
If left up to them they would sleep, but that's not an option.
They complain that they have no friends that go there, yet don't
attempt to make friends. They mention not respecting their Sunday
s... | 4 |
5,832 |
Please note that God commanded Adam to work before the fall:
"The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work
it and take care of it." (Gen 2:15, NIV).
Work was God's design from the beginning.
--
Ken | 4 |
5,354 |
This is not at all comparable. Christianity is the main stream in
western culture. You are trivializing the experiences of others.
I remember what it was like being "different" as a Christian. We
were told all the time that we were different, and in fact that
only members of the our church were really Christians (tho... | 4 |
585 |
"Isaac Asimov read creationist books. He read the Bible. He had ample
opportunity to kneel before his Creator and Savior. He refused. In
fact, he sent out a strong promotional letter urging support of the
American Humanist Association, shortly before he died."
--excerpt from Ken Ham, "Asimov Meets His Creator,... | 4 |
6,729 | Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have
sincere love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from the heart. | 4 |
5,027 |
Ethics deal with individuals. Morals deal with groups.
Please describe these "number of ways" in detail. Then explain any
contradictions that may arise.
The sentence, "Yes, it's possible, but it is difficult." Humans survived
"in the wild" for hundreds of thousands of years.
Answer the question, Keith. Is ho... | 4 |
3,604 |
No. I also understand it. I have read the Bible from cover to cover, examining
each book within, cross-comparing them, etc. And I have come to same conclusions
as Robert Weiss. | 4 |
1,502 | The other week I saw a TV program about the american space industry and NASA.
It said that in the 60's they developed a rocket that used ions or nuclear
particles for propolsion.
The government however, didn't give them $1billion for the developement
of a full scale rocket.
Did anybody see this program?
If not, has any... | 1 |
6,151 |
This sounds an awful lot like a password-guesser, not a weakness in
DES. Merritt and I pointed out this weakness in Kerberos in a paper
that came out about 2.5 years ago, in both Computer Communications
Review and Usenix. For that matter, it was loudly discussed on the
Kerberos mailing list even earlier.
The proble... | 1 |
1,076 | To: ashwin@cc.gatech.edu (Ashwin Ram)
AR>Does the "Thermoscan" instrument really work? It is supposed to give you a
ABSOLUTELY!
Ya don't have to do the other end!
(it is accurate - but technique is important)
cccbbs!rob.welder@uceng.uc.edu | 1 |
3,437 |
There are people who have adapted to high altitudes in the Andes and in
Tibet. I suspect that it took them several generations to make the
adaptation because Europeans had difficulty making the adaptation. They
had to send the women to a lower altitude when they were pregnant in order
to insure sucessful childbirth.
... | 1 |
3,632 |
Firstly, an aside:
I agree that the weakness exists, but I have a lot of trouble
believing that it represents a difficulty in real life. Given:
1. the purpose of the one-time pad is to give unbreakable security,
and the expense of key distribution etc., imply that the clients
really do want that level of security
2... | 1 |
6,944 |
It is completely clear. You have to assume that each byte that was encrypted
by this 'Clipper Chip' has been compromised.
Some people wondered, why Denning, Hellman and others did not respond,
when asked what would be done about such compromised phones, or if
compromise could not be restricted in time. (I did too) Le... | 1 |
6,914 | I have been scanning and trying to read the articles in the sci.crypt area,
but what do I get? SURPRISINGLY, the blurb comes upon the screen " file xxx
has either been cancelled or expired. Now I ask you, If it expired,
wouldn't it be out of the available file cache?
I am 32 and not a paranoid, but the older I ... | 1 |
4,084 | [...]
As anyone who attended HoHoCon will attest, you can pick information
off the video chip. It's surprisingly easy too. The guy did it with
a portable TV, with very minor mods. It only worked from 3 feet, but
then it was just a demonstration.
RA
rogue@cs.neu.edu (Rogue Agent/SoD!) | 1 |
7,520 | First off, if I'm not mistaken, only hibernating animals have brown fat,
not humans.
Secondly, your description sounds just like 2,4-dinitrophenol. This is an
uncoupler of respiratory chain oxidative phosphorylation. Put in layman's
terms, it short-circuits the mitochondria, causing food energy to be
turned into hea... | 1 |
1,564 |
Where did that idea come from? It's news to me. | 1 |
2,232 |
This is a real address. My understanding of the current process
that mail takes is it gets downloaded on floppy disk and is processed
by retiree volunteers, who match the message against message profiles
and check the message count. (I.e.: "yeah, that's a for gays in the
military. what's this clipper stuff? must be a... | 1 |
4,359 |
The variance from perfect sphericity in a model of the earth small enough
to fit into your home would probably be imperceptible.
Any globe you can buy will be close enough.
-- | 1 |
5,018 | Hi,
Thought I'd add something to the conversation.
My girlfriend used to work in a lab studying different natural carcinogens.
She mentioned once about the cancerous effect of barbecued food.
Basically, she said that if you eat barbecued foods with strawberries
(a natural carcinogen) the slight carcinogenic properti... | 1 |
1,193 |
I saw a printed up flyer that stated the person was a
"licensed herbologist and iridologist"
What are your opinions?
How much can you tell about a person's health by looking into their eyes?
| 1 |
5,824 | FLAME ON
Reading through the posts about Kirlian (whatever spelling)
photography I couldn't help but being slightly disgusted by the
narrow-minded, "I know it all", "I don't believe what I can't see or
measure" attitude of many people out there.
I am neither a real believer, nor a disbeliever when it comes to
so-call... | 1 |
1,912 | Yesterday, I went to the Boeing shareholders meeting. It was a bit shorter
than I expected. Last year (when the stock was first down), they made a big
presentation on the 777, and other programs. This year, it was much more
bare-bones.
In any case, I wanted to ask a question that the board of directors would
hear, ... | 1 |
4,836 | agents
of
The original poster did not say why his mother had been in hospital
but I can answer a few general points.
Elderly patients may exhibit a marked difficulty in coping after
being in hospital for a few days. The drastic change of environment
will often unmask how marginally they have been coping at home. Even... | 1 |
5,392 |
They also have a lot of the other voters really irritated at them.
Okay, folks, I know I'm in the minority on this issue, but I can't
let this assertion go unchallenged yet again. I'm going to say this
ONLY ONCE, in the hopes of NOT starting a flame war off of the main
topic.
Guns are offensive. Cryptography is d... | 1 |
5,748 | Sci med people:
Can I sell my TENS unit or does it have to be sold by a physician or
other liscened person? | 1 |
1,684 | 1 | |
4,842 |
-- That means that there cannot be any atheists since there is NO WAY that you
can prove that there is no god. Atheists are people who BELIEVE that there is no
god, most not only believe, but also are damn sure that there isn't a god (like
me).
--------------------------------------------------------------------... | 1 |
7,121 | A person with a Schatzki's ring (a membrane partially blocking the
espphagus) has worsening dysphagia (difficulty swallowing) and the
doctor proposes dilation by balloow or bougie (using an inflatable
balloon to rupture the ring or a rubber hose to push through it.
Question: is balloon dilation safe, common, and i... | 1 |
2,964 |
I was wondering if a group called 'sci.pharmacology' would be relevent.
This would be used for a more formal discussion about pharmacological
issues (pharmacodynamics, neuropharmacology, etc.)
Just an informal proposal (I don't know anything about the net.politics
for adding a newsgroup, etc.)
[more alt.psychoactive... | 1 |
5,286 | Introducing the Back to the Moon in Congress:
The Next Step
The next key hurdle for the Lunar Resources Data Purchase
Act is introduction of the Act in Congress. At this point, many
congresspersons have been approached about the bill. However,
for a success... | 1 |
1,789 | My girlfriend just started taking this drug for her migranes. It really
helped her get through the rebound withdrawl when she got off analgesics.
She doesn't have a mail account, but asked me to forward this:
"Glaxo is the distributor; Imitrex is the drug's brand name. It works.
She can call her pharmacy for more ... | 1 |
337 |
I believe it is illegal to send any cryptographic code out of the country
without an export license. (Others will correct me if this is inaccurate.)
Dunno if you'd get one for the particular code you have; the only way to
find out is to apply for a license.
Note that you need to distinguish between what is legal to ... | 1 |
59 | James Nicholl sez;
Jeff responds;
I wouldn't worry too much about it, Jeff. If you work for JPL, then your
job IS imaging things :-)
(I know, it was a just a typo, but I couldn't resist. At least, I hope it
was a typo, or my stupid joke is stupider than I intended :-)
-Tommy Mac
---------------------------------... | 1 |
5,251 | Dear news readers,
Is there anyone using sheep models for cardiac research, specifically
concerned with arrhythmias, pacing or defibrillation? I would like
to hear from you.
Many thanks,
Andrew Mears | 1 |
6,860 |
I don't think this will work. Still the same in space
integration problems, small modules, especially the Bus-1 modules.
the MOL would be bigger.
Also, budget problems may end up stalling developemnt.
A small undersized station wont have the science community support.
Program effeciencies may cut costs, b... | 1 |
7,317 | Just curious, how would the Clipper Chip system handle
conference calls?
| 1 |
810 | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I am sure your numbers are far better then mine. As i said above,
i don't have exact numbers.
How different would the contamination threat of a small manuevering tug
be from that of the Shuttle and it's OMS engines??????
I know that no small manuevering tug exists, but maybe one could... | 1 |
3,913 | OK, I heard a lot of talk about the NSA's infamous control over encryption
export through the ITAR. Here's a question. Say I develop this great new
encryption system, and I want to sell my software worldwide. The thought
police then come in and say "This algorithm is a threat to national security.
You will not be pe... | 1 |
373 | >there's no problem. The Feds don't care whose phone instrument is used, just
>that the conversation is by the suspect on the tapped line. They get the
>serial number, get the keys, and they are in business.
So, you admit that Clipper opens the doors wide for the following scenario:
FEDS: We need the keys to J... | 1 |
1,362 | Hmmm.... CELP takes up about 12.6 MIPS for full duplex, and has been
implemented on about a million DSP chips... the 56001 card in my PC only cost
about $700, and I'm sure once demand goes up the prices would drop. The Analog
Devices 21020 board that we're looking at now cost about $500 (academic price).
I don't think ... | 1 |
1,406 | Does anyone know where I can get a hold of some secure encrypting chips
or devices before they are banned completely?!?
Steve
| 1 |
3,562 | I would guess that they won't use Clipper at all. What they will
do is use their STU-IIIs amoung themselves and the governmental agencies
they need to talk to, and ignore Clipper. After all, if it's not secure
enough for the agency/department they are communicating with why should
the coprations trust it?
| 1 |
3,111 |
Yes, but that's because interstellar grains are very poor radiators, not
remotely black bodies. As a consequence they are a lot warmer than the
"ambient".
When I was in graduate school, a long time ago, we used 10,000 deg K with
a DILUTION FACTOR of 10+4 for representative values of the radiant energy
background ... | 1 |
1,940 | If anyone has any information on this deficiency I would very greatly
appreciate a response here or preferably by Email. All I know at this
point is a deficiency can cause myoglobin to be released, and in times
of stress and high ambient temperature could cause renal failure.
x
| 1 |
3,891 |
I've had neither a baby nor a kidney stone, but according to my aunt,
who has had plenty of both, a kidney stone is worse.
| 1 |
6,198 |
It has also apparently been excised from the second edition.
| 1 |
149 | :
: Isn't there a relatively new treatment for kidney stones involving
: a non-invasive use of ultra-sound where the patient is lowered
: into some sort of liquid when he/she undergoes treatment? I'm sure
: I've read about it somewhere. If I remember it correctly it is a
: painless and effective treatme... | 1 |
3,701 |
Y'all got the first two reversed. | 1 |
1,447 | You've got it. What you regard as a right, someone else will regard
as a privilege. Followups to some generic ethics and morality
newsgroup .... | 1 |
2,947 | If you brighten up the dark part of CV043015.GIF with your viewer you
will see two other objects near the upper left part of the moon.
One is actually between the weather satellite and the moon. | 1 |
5 |
Elisabeth, let's set the record straight for the nth time, I have not read
"The Yeast Connection". So anything that I say is not due to brainwashing
by this "hated" book. It's okay I guess to hate the book, by why hate me?
Elisabeth, I'm going to quote from Zinsser's Microbiology, 20th Edition.
A book that you sho... | 1 |
1,059 |
Right. People here believe the government is listening in on
everything. Sure. If you can't provide an answer, change the
assumptions to something you can deal with.
It's not a matter of the government listening on on everything, it's a
matter of the government listening on anyone they take an interest in.
Say, if... | 1 |
5,077 |
^^^^^^^
A convention for Santa Claus impersonators? Please elaborate, enquiring minds
(those in the second and third jars from the left) want to know.... | 1 |
2,098 | Cause and cures for fever blisters respectfully requested.
Thanks!
:-D iane | 1 |
4,753 |
How about the discussion of the STS Tether experiment. Ran forward,
it would suck energy from the Earth's magnetic field, while trivially
slowing the Shuttle. It could also have run backward -- if they ran
electricity through the tether the other way, it would have trivially
propelled the Shuttle faster.
But an ev... | 1 |
7,330 | : A woman once told me her doctor told her that I
: could catch, asymptomatically, her yeast infection
: from her, then give it back to her, causing
: a relapse.
: Probably bogus, but if not, it's another reason to use
: latex...
: Steve
It isn't bogus. I had chronic vaginal yeast infections that would go away
with... | 1 |
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